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>obey lolis>ton cum
what's the general feel for battle fucking games here?honestly, doing that with the BFs in paradox may have unlocked a new weird fetish to me, the idea of being sexually bullied by an attractive woman for 5 minutes trying not to cum appeals to my naturally submissive heartthe other kind of battle fucking, I have a rough time visualizing it as two people locked in combat and not two horny young people looking like they can't even wait to find a bed
>>568252531>the other kind of battle fucking, I have a rough time visualizing it as two people locked in combat and not two horny young people looking like they can't even wait to find a bedThe ROBF games are all about that, i like it
>>568252531I like MGDs
>>568252531>feel for battle fucking games here?Basically this. They interrupt the flow of porn.
>>568252531One thing I'm not a fan of is how super slow the battles tend to be. You normally can't hit auto and the game wipes out the mook enemy with a boob grab.
I love my cute daughterwife Mini!
>>568252410>anon monsterThe real monster was us all along.
>>568253997Guess we better get raping.
>>568253134>Basically this. They interrupt the flow of porn.Its better than lose to get porn, Either I am rewarded like Franks Adventure or I never see anything
>>568252410>angels incest need>succubi feel great
>>568252531I personally feel like they make sex unsexy. Constantly having to select a vaugely porny move in a turn based fucking kind of way really takes the horny out of sex, you know? Taking sex and turning it into rpg autism has got to be some of the least horny thing i've experienced
>>568265204yeah its a matter of taste, i personally like it at least in games like ROBF, but i get why people wouldnt
>>568266281Is it the same as Succubus Rapsody and Succubus Quest? I frankly find the constant need to set up a pattern kind of annoying. Needing to constantly kiss the rapist whores to get the mood up so the undressing phase can happen gets on my nerves.
>>568266764nah, at least the first ROBF its more of a normal jrpg battle but with sex stuff, its very well animated most of the time so it feels good
>>568252410>wanting vanilla
some battle fuck games annoy me like how some where you have to have pentrative sex to truly win, everything else is just foreplay, your opponent can only cum via penetration so in order to finish them off you have to either take the deck or shove it in their puss and stirred up or stir them up to end the battle
>>568252410>horny play? mini help, that's rape.
>>568252410>Reina nice>Harpies + Humans
Not sure if there's a dedicated mgq thread (there probably is) but I've seen guys I know try to find ideas to make Sara better but like, fuck man It's SaraAnyways it reminded me of how weirdly uncomfortable in ways I couldn't imagine it was to have the king of sabasa talk about marrying her, your daughter is Sara and she lusts after a woman your grand lineage is OVER, I doubt words would be enough to convey it so I had to make this
>>568276481>Not sure if there's a dedicated mgq thread (there probably is)there isnt, not on /vg/ at least, this is pretty much it desu, we mostly talk about MGQ
>>568276481this used to be mgqg
>>568276481Anon this IS the dedicated mgq thread
>>568276481The Sabasa lineage survives, because nobility tends to marry off daughters and lesser sons to other powerful houses. It gets brought up when the Sabasa King pretty much admits knowing about Sara's "feelings" for the autistic dragon woman, and was ready to hand the throne to a branch family. It's actually kind of funny that this doesn't really get brought up much, since it means that a bunch more people are carrying the superhuman genes, and ancient monster blood.
>>568276481>Sara and she lusts after a woman your grand lineage is OVERShe also lusts after luka after having her succ blood awakened, if she's bi the king still has a chance
All is right in the world once more, the emperor can rest in peace then.
>>568277275>since it means that a bunch more people are carrying the superhuman genes, and ancient monster blood.I can't be the only one that thinks thats a ton of untapped story telling potential, right? Bloodline shenigans can be so fun
>>568277668possibly, honestly MGQ is so full of stuff that trtr could easily fit 5 or more spin-off games
>>568276481>(there probably is)There is!And you're in it! Welcome anon!
>>568277668It does make me wonder if the Remina bloodline really just survived through Luka. Political marriages, bastard children, disinherited sons, and daughters sent to be members of Ilias converts could have easily led to a bunch of people inheriting the blood, and that line surviving until the current day. But I guess TrTr really didn't want to get too deep into political stuff with the kingdoms.
>>568278273>It does make me wonder if the Remina bloodline really just survived through Luka. Political marriages, bastard children, disinherited sons, and daughters sent to be members of Ilias converts could have easily led to a bunch of people inheriting the blood, and that line surviving until the current day.depends of how ilias go around with it, maybe she also killed some of these without anyone noticing, would be fun if luka had some very distant cousins still
>>568278273It's not like Luka's the only living member, he had parents and people before him too. There's people who split off down the line, even if they haven't been found yet.
>>568277668Kind of funny how no one seems to remember this detail about MGQ. Who knows how many humans carry ancient proto-human blood, or monster genes in them. The population in all the kingdoms outside of San Ilias is probably drenched in the juice considering how the original founders likely married off all their relatives and children to the loyal followers that would go on to become the nation's nobility.
>>568279651I gives a lot of humans some nice potential.
>>568282436I find monster sisters with large age gaps really funny, because it implies that their dad stayed long enough to plap their mother multiple times, likely because they were in a loving relationship, or the dad was a favorite sex slave.
>>568283312or they are just half sisters and nobody really points it out because its irrelevant?
>>568286867aww
Gonna start paradox again blind. Years ago I finished part 1 on Lolias route. then I basically forgot after the long waits for the sequels and TLs. I basically don't remember anything.Probably still gonna continue the same route.any tips or general reminder?
>>568289319>Probably still gonna continue the same route.do that>any tips or general reminder?not really? just enjoy and use your favorites, maybe download the all-party chat mod? not sure if someone updated that thing to the current part 3 version
>>568289319Have fun and just use your favorite girls. It's the true and proper way to experience it.
>>568289319>any tips or general reminder?Use the Ruler's Ruler if the rapidly-increasingly autism of the combat wears you down.>inb4 you didn't beat the game
>>568291568Well, if you used that then yeah I guess you're kinda confessing to it lmao
>>568291568>Use the Ruler's Ruler if the rapidly-increasingly autism of the combat wears you down.anon the game isnt that hard come on, unless he is on the paradox difficulty the game is piss easy
>>568291892what about the autistic job grind I've heard so much about
>>568291995its not any worse than any Jrpg
>>568291995You do not need to autistically grind jobs unless you are actively trying to farm a specific mechanic that will allow you to cheese the game in part three.At most all you ever need is one or two of the highest tier jobs, because I beat the game with only two girls having three of the highest tier jobs maxed out and everyone else either had two or one instead.
>>568291995that's the most fun part
>>568268079She is very delicious
>>568291892>anon the game isnt that hard come onPlease notice that the word I used was not difficulty
>>568297546but the team building autism is the best part
>>568297674After manyfold hours, some of us lose interest in anything that doesn't have awesome tits
>>568298136meh, making your cute monster girls stronger is reward enough
fuck monsters
>>568301590sure
>>568291995You can pretty much ignore it by using new characters
>>568306003Hiruko is so hot like holy shit.
>>568306827true, prob my favorite ancestor design wise (not counting loli tamamo), love her clothes
>>568306003How did she escape?
>>568307108If loli tamamo is the best ancestor what would happen if you sealed hiruko? Tryna math here.
>>568308859she would look adorable imo.>>568308847nothing can stop her, eventually any prison will just be consumed
>>568308859
>>568308859A Hiruko that escaped the seal would get killed by Eden.Ilias was okay with looking the other way with Tamamo since Tamamo was willing to keep a low profile but Hiruko could never.
>>568309835Pretty much.Hiruko would also completely forget the mission her mother gives her too. Honestly, Kanon wouldn't be any different, and Kanade probably would drop everything and go Erubetie 2.0 when the slimes start going extinct as the environment starts to break down.
they should just erase Hiruko's name from the hungry people book and add her to sated people book
>Isn't Hiruko a shapeshifter so couldnt she just look sealed if she wanted to?
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4LvY4gaCommission idea poll is now open. You can still add your own ideas to be voted on if you like though. You can vote on any two options you like and I will commission the top 2.
>>568315940based bob
>>568241445Should've been a calamity alongside the other (un)fortunates.
>>568291892The HP bars and XP grind in Part 3 are way too much to deal with
>>568310438>KanonShe's callous and naive, not forgetful. She just can't be left alone for too long.
>>568324365We are talking about 2nd stupidest Ancestor being made into a loli, depowered, and being tasked at watching over monsterkind and Saja's descendants.
>>568309835Illias explicitly had no idea tamamo was tamamo, she was surprised to see her during the final battle
>>568328416Hiding in plain sight.
>>568328416Tamamo is also the smartest of the ancestors and probably one of the smartest actual beings in the setting.
>>568328416That was the dumbest thing to me
>>568329459Her smartest idea is the concept of "marriage".>What if... I lived together with a human? And if I cook him food and keep him healthy, I can ensure a stable supply of semen... And won't have to search for new prey every day!!
>>568328416If you think about it, Tamamo only made her presence really known during Alice 16th reign as one of her 4HKs.She didnt do anything outside observing until B.Alice was put down, and it does look like it still took a few MLs afterwards for her to become an adviser.That is almost 1000 years of hiding in the shadows. And we know monsters do name their kids after great woman of their race.
>>568327146She's not stupid. For that, her actions would have to harm her own interests.Everything she did advanced her goals, and her friendships did ultimately give her a lot of clout in MW. She just made the mistake of expecting her connections to survive her fall from grace.
>>568340436>S-she's NOT stupid!!Who gave the plant access to the 4chan?
>>568323031it really isnt unless you are on the paradox difficulty, and even so it isnt that hard
>>568329842>>568328416not really, ilias is fucking retarded and flat out ignores/does not see things she dont want to
>>568345673>her 2 best angels rebelling she did not see nor did she see micaela fake her ass out twice.
>>568344709Get this woman some plant grow and fertilizer stat she looks like she's shriveling up and dying of starvation.
>>568289319hello, it's me againI've finally clocked out of work and starting the game soon. The part 3 theme as I opened the game hit me with a strange nostalgia even though I've never played it before. Very hard is a good balance between fun and challenge, right? And I guess I'll start a new game and wipe the existing saves, assuming that's the /mggg/ canon
>>568347898Ilias is very trusting of family.She did afterall, believe that traitorous snake of a sister would not to abandon her duties, and turn into a NEET.
>>568350295So trusting she killed Lucifina.
>>568352273Lucifina chose to die.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNJ5gnFXmhs
>>568353892>do this or i kill you>lucifina chose to dienice "choice"
>>568354547You can tell piss stained hands made that post for sure.
>>568354547>nooooo I won't transform into an angel even for a second to btfo the virus and even use my powers to heal the village>what? the villages know and are begging me to heal them? fuck 'em, I gotta prove a point to mommy by dying!
>>568355034They didnt deserve to live.
>>568355034>oooh let me make some discount black plague killing god knows how many just so i can force my daughter to prove me rightShut the fuck up ilias, nobody believe your lies anymore, fucking hell.
Just friendly family killing.It's a goddess thing, you wouldn't understand.
>>568349179Very Hard is considered the best 'normal' diffculty, you're correct. Hope you have fun anon.
>>568355569You should thank Ilias for not dying of syphilys you filthy horny ape.
>>568357413Fuck off Eden, nobody cares about you or your stupid mother.
>>568355034if you don't get killed by the enemy they win
>>568357615I care (about Eden)
>>568357615>your smart mother.I care (about Illias)
>>568363528So... you don't care about smart mothers.
>>568361593>protect Ilias Temple for years>one day, tiny Ilias appears>tiny Ilias proves to be the real one and recruits you to go on adventures to save the world>Micaela and Lucifina are revived the same day and become your little sisters>Ilias starts treating you better>she's still bossy, but she actually cares now>little sisters play with you and despite everything openly love you>Ilias praises you in front of the other angels for your hard workPart 2 with Ilias is a journey of finally making Eden happy.
>>568365278>Part 2 with Ilias is a journey of finally making Eden happy.it was mostly ilias learning to be less of a cunt, being nice to Eden was just a result of that
Blind Paradox diff anon, back to confirm that I found the scenes of Eden and Ilias very touching, even without the context (I can extrapolate the context from just Paradox's dialogue, but reiterating). Eden and Ilias probably boosted most non-grotesque angels into S Tier just by existing. (Currently about to go to Horai in MW, the fact that there are 3 fucking Edens is overwhelming (in the good way)).
>>568366710Its nice to have three Thirds
>>568328416Didn't Paradox established that it's not rare for some monstergirls to call their children after a famous monster from the past? (We have the OG Lilith and another one that fought against Heinrich) so Ilias probably thought it was another kitsune that was named after the ancestor Tamamo
Would it be possible to wife Kanon or would she eventually end up eating you like Hiruko would?
What's the holdup on uploading best girl?
>>568377164>Would it be possible to wife Kanon or would she eventually end up eating you like Hiruko would?depower her for centuries first, worked for tamamo and ilias
>>568372861Not to mention being super weak, super tiny, and being super fluffy, and not a blood thirsty cunt.Tamamo was smart to stay away from the wider world for over 500 years before making a move.
>>568377448Imagine you took a regular fox to bed not knowing it was tomamo sleeping.
>>568378280Imagine you start fucking Tamamo and then your parents walk in and she turns back into a fox and now your family thinks you're an animal fucker.
>>568382027I'm pretty sure there are multiple folk tales that are exactly that.
Reminder that illias wants you to believe that she was totally in control for all of mgq and luka falling in love with and refusing to kill alice and was actually all according to keikaku
Ilias knew. Ilias knew that if she carried out her plan to completion, she'd become a loli bouncing on hero penis in MMTD later
>>568382650Ultimately, she would have been consumed by the desire to destroy everything, because chaos' incentive is to return everything to nothing Ilias would have lost one way or another, even if everything went all according to plan, including Luka, for some reason, joining her side again.
>>568383242>, including Luka, for some reason, joining her side again.I find it funny that Ilias winning might be the only vaguely consensual H scene in MGQ.
>>568386593>consensualanon, luka was pretty much dead inside during the scene
>>568386593I wasn't talking about the kill Alice ending.I was talking about when Ilias gained her chaos powers, and invited Luka to return to her side as her hero again.Ilias really believed he would have dropped everything and join her after her betrayal.
>>568278470Aren't Constanze and Remina Luka's cousins?
>>568386593>consensualLmao
>>568383169>"As humanity's goddess, I hate monster girls because they are evil">goes on vacation to another dimension where 99% of the monster girls are not evil rapists and are mostly made up of well-meaning retards>"Luka they won't worship me, kill the Master">'Ilias he's just a guy-'>"THEY WON'T WORSHIP ME KILL HIM I SAID KILL HIM"She's lucky he didn't catch her stealing his bag, he's just too polite most of the time but all the get-out-of-monmusu-free cards he keeps crammed in there would've probably gotten her trapped once he called for backup.
>>568387496We don't know which era the Remina that showed up in the Chaos route came from. Only that it came before the great disaster/Remina extermination, and after the three prince conflict was resolved.We don't know how many greats is going to be needed to be put in front of cousin, to properly put them in Luka's family tree.
The Queen of Remina is actually kind of cute and sexy. I feel bad lusting after a human girl in a monster girl game.
>>568391930the dead fish eyes turned me off her
>>568391930She is a BFer.There, I made her less attractive to you.
I still wanna know why the top 4 battle fuckers in the world are all virgins, also I'm kinda upset Sonya doesn't have dialogue with Noah as a fellow priestess of IIias temple I mean I get why considering all the other wild shit going on but I thought it'd be a nice call back to how Sonya used to have to constantly say "I AM A PRIESTESS!!" in a rage and to that one scene where the first time you go to saint IIia temple sonya sins immediately but cussing in a cathedral and suddenly is wearing her priest outfit in full again, hat and all but back to the point, the stronget human girls in pleasure are the queen of remina, her cousin constanze whose never seen seen a dick before, marie of iiiasville who makes a point that she only goes as far as her hands and Noah of Iiiasvile temple whose also just starting to get into it with Luka being her first real manWhat are they trying to say? that human girls who hang out near the monster lord and goddess end up being lewd experts ? It's especially crazy because as far as I know only Remina has experience with paizuri'ing suitors who apparently couldn't even make it past insertion into her tits before nutting.
>>568386752He was overwhelmed with love.
>"All I have to do is beat you down with my pussy and you'll do whatever I say,right?"When did Sara become such a bully?
>>568392454>She is a BFer.I am quite fond of Fuuki
>>568393961since she got succ'd
>>568393961she isn't wrong though
>>568394242now explain her getting full blown naked to suck Luka's dick against his will before she was even succ'd man all this talk is making me want to download paradox again but it was such a pain trying to get it to run the first time AND I lost all my saves so I'd be starting from 0, screw that!
>>568395046Her monster blood was going out of control in Paradox because of a bunch dimensional invading whores.
>>568395046In paradox she was already a succubus during the first encounter where she does this, she's just hiding in human form. The entire point of the questline was never turning her back or turning her into a succubus, it's just speeding up the process by which her mind accumulates to her new body so that her sanity returns. That's why she turns into a succubus for the boss fight.
>>568395401>>568395454I was talking about the VN game she was very insistent that she thank Luka sexually for some reason, he even asked her why if she was into girls and she ignores the question and strips him anyway
>>568395454trtr sure likes his plotline of succs going out of control and fucking people that arent you
>>568395736Blowjobs are like giving handshakes for women in MGQ.
>>568395892at least sara only used her mouth and didn't rape people to death like those succ whores and besides isn't it punishment enough that one became a drug addict, another one because a redemption seeker after seeing how far her inate sadism would inevtiably take her if she didn't dial it back a bit and the third one willingly embraced retardation because without going idiot mode she developed some weird PTSD like trauma from that shit even with the sins wiped away by the god shota they still feel horrible, through if setouchi is to be believed plapping Luka every once and a while is therapeutic for them.wait, isn't that just that other succ in dreams? you can fuck her but be too helpless and she starts to lose control and almost soul vores you, a junior succ almost does it too and straight up writes an apology letter to you for it and from then on you can never have sex with her again, only tail jobs
>>568396442it has nothing to do with punishment, I just think it sucks and doesn't really add anything
>>568396752In the VN, it only happens once. In the Succubus Village, and that is it. Sara doesn't attack anyone besides Luka after the Elf Queen does her incredibly stupid plan.As for Paradox, if we don't count the collab, almost all the succubi insanity happens because of the Lilith Sisters, who are succubi themselves.
>>568397194I meant paradox, given I was talking about the lillith sister rampage. Given i'm well aware they didn't do that of their own will given Echidna I thought it was obvious I didn't mean I didn't like it for some in story reason I just don't want to watch succubus girls fucking other people. There is nothing deeper than that, I don't give a shit about ptsd or how bad the lillith sisters felt about it echidna fucking sucked and sara fucking sucked.
>>568306827
>>568397516Anon, succubi are not waifu material.Outside of the BFers, the other most prostitute thing we see in the game is Eva giving backalley blowjobs.
>>568398143>succubi are not waifu material.You take that shit back RIGHT NOW best girl Shamisel was in last thread's OP. Paradox alma doesn't really get extended scenes of her fucking random dudes either
>>568398287Both versions of Alma are colleseum enthusiasts. What do you think she does there?
>>568398143>Anon, succubi are not waifu material.
>>568398505Us succubi enjoyers only think with our dicks.
>>568398505punch things
>>568396424
>>568398143>succubi are not waifu materialbut Succubus Nun though...
>>568400142>King of San Ilia: "...Stop roaming around naked at night."
what monstergirl is the most delicious asking for a friend of course..
>>568404467Japs are biased toward seafood, so they say Hiruko.I say it's obviously Watermelon Girl.
>>568402405>too drunk to remember doing that
Is Alma marriageable after being purified?
>>568409015If Rami says you're hopeless, you're probably hopeless
>>568411660She can work on self imp-provement!
>>568354547That's something I resent a lot in Lucifina, she basically chosed to die and leave Luka alone, just by spite.In a world where she'll be used by Ilias, and probably killed by a monster.
>>568411962Not impressed, I sentence ___me to getting imp pressed
>>568412249>just by spite.its quite in character tho, at least for the old lucifina before marriage
>>568412249
Suuup, what's new under the sun? Any new content? It's been around a year, nothing new? Still stuck on the 3,06 version? Anything fanmade added to the game that would make me want to jump back in?
>>568412667Bonnie having children with a Luka is still canon and no we still can't ring her or see my cute pirate half mermaid daughters
>>568412573If Paradox wasn't a thing, this would have been very much, not in character.>>568412585I will question everything she does. And then;I'll call her poor cook, a poor wife, a poor mother, a poor lover, a poor angel, an idiot, and a granny.
Lucifina shouldn't have strayed so far from the path of the Goddess. No, the other one.
>>568412805>If Paradox wasn't a thing, this would have been very much, not in character.desu lucifina being a beserker feels like something that trtr always had in mind for the character, it just never came into play during the VN
>>568412793We have been robbed. Dude screwed up He should have given a ring scenes for every characters, unnironically, in fact it's shocking that he didn't because the game run on autism.
>>568412931In the original VN, Sleeping Luka was doing some absolutely wild shit with those techniques. It runs in the family, and you should run from the family.
>>568412793just wait for part 4
>>568412931Not really, the Lucifina you see in the VN is extremely pleasant and outride say that she fucked up and apologize to Luka for that.If you look to Ex Death Ilias.She also has her chest covered. And look like a lady. Like a proper angel too.
>>568413049I must offer hugs to Chaos.
>>568413105>Not really, the Lucifina you see in the VN is extremely pleasant and outride say that she fucked up and apologize to Luka for that.what this has to do with her backstory always being of a berserker? one does not contradict the other, post-luka VN lucifina just became chill
>>568413339So you are saying that the VN Lucifina is chill post Luka, but Paradox Lucifina isn't chill post Luka.Homoshiroi. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
>>568413478>but Paradox Lucifina isn't chill post Luka.yeah, they didnt have the same life, plus paradox luci can simply let go more with all the insanity happening
>>568413740She let go all the time. It's like she's constantly orgasming, except it's about making stuff explode.
>Lucifina when violence>Sinners when punished by angel>Boys when monsterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ1xCGmuJ7k
>>568413821yes, lovely isnt it? love berserkers
>>568414215BERSERKER SOUL
>>568414330heh
>>568412667>Anything fanmade added to the gameIt's a work in progress, but I'm trying to learnDon't know if anyone else has tried to do anything though
>>568411408The issue with Monstergirls getting married is that, like Alma's mom or Luka's mom, they stop being monsters and turn into normal humans.
>>568412667>>568414592its not that hard desu, its rpg maker, its made to be editable.i remember long ago editing lucifina's cut-in to that pic of her reloading a gun
>>568414669Wrong. They don't need to seal their powers, they just decided to do it to 'live a normal' life or whatever.
>>568414592Interesting, what are you trying to edit/add?
>>568414946what's normal life like in mgq
>>568415039...A normal human life? Hello?
>>568414669They dont need to, lucifina did it to hide from ilias/live a normal life, alma's mom did it because succubus autism.
>>568415124but what is it like, do you just farm all day
>>568415437they just became housewives
>>568414592>>568414893So nothing new under the sun? How annoying. I had at least hoped for some fancontents, more QoL, or a complete translations.I had also hoped for a new update, especially after one year, come on man...>(deep breath) まいどー!!!Interesting. You do know it's probably going to be destroyed next update though?
>>568415437Being a housewife, or an old crone for Alma's Mom? It's not that deep bro.
Randomizer mod when?
>>568415609I feel like any mods or QoL people are waiting for the game to reach its final expansion first.>Interesting. You do know it's probably going to be destroyed next update though?like that, desu changing just the pic of a character is easy as fuck
>>568415697>>568415523it was more that I realized I don't even get what do humans do all day in the setting
>>568415793>Randomizer mod when?oh god i dont want to see how much spaghetti code you would need to untangle and write for something like that.>>568415943>it was more that I realized I don't even get what do humans do all day in the settingdepends of your job lol, some are farmers, some are soldiers, some are sluts, some are inn owners like paradox luka, etc.
>>568415847Well, there's no excuses for translation and updates though.Yes, I'm being demanding and rude! What do you mean the game is large?>>568415793First boss, Chaos.
>>568415943Bro have you played the game? They so stuff, like jobs, farmers, soldiers, blacksmith, fishing.One of my biggest grip with the Part 3 world is that the world I enjoyed seeing evolve is now gone, especially one of my favorite house.It was an NPC that couldn't fight in war, old womens outside were were gossiping that he was a spy, much to the anger of his parents and sister, but he ended up making a song for his country, which end up making them proud.
>>568416002Spaghetti code within Spaghetti code. Are you ready for the spaghetti?
>>568416360cant be worse than some mess like fear and hunger.
>>568416210>Bro have you played the game?part 1 and 2 like years ago so I remember literally nothing and part 3 few months ago
>>568416638Understandable then....Even with all the super cool and uncool stuff happening, I think I prefer Part 1 and Part 2. The world was beautiful. Now it's only Chaos.
>>568411660I can fix her
>>568416726>The world was beautiful. Now it's only Chaos.honestly its the best we can get for now considering all the clusterfuck that happened, maybe it will get more unfucked with the updates
>>568416843I hope so. I miss the world from Part 1 and Part 2. It was fun.And didn't have so many DISGUSTING MONSTERS AND ANGELS EVERYWHERE.But seriously though, it's ugly, a mess, and so many nostalgic and nice place I liked are gone.
>>568417129That is not disgusting, IT'S THE GOAT! THE GOAT!
>>568413274
>>568417889CHAOS I HAVE TO GIVE YOU HUGS, SWEETS AND UPPIES! YOU CANNOT ESCAPE!
>>568417989
>>568418223Good girl. *pat* *pat* *pat*Now go kill Sub Ilias and Alice I please.And dress correctly.And brush your teeth.
>>568418947i just wish chaos-chan had more art
>>568419015Same.But her design is a bit ass imo
>>568419164i disagree, she's cute
>>568419280I said a bit ass. It's not complate dogshit but...Why does she wear a kimono? Why does she look nothing like her parent? Why does she has her pussy and tits out?
>>568419521>Why does she wear a kimono?i looks nice on her>Why does she look nothing like her parent?because chaos>Why does she has her pussy and tits out?because its cute and hot
>>568419665Hard disagree. It look like nonsense.
>>568419740eh, its alright
>>568419859We cool. You have your opinion. I have my opinion. We cool.Not let us pat the greatest merchant of them all.
>>568419980for sure
>>568418223Is she the strongest shiki?
>>568422364Yes. And her older form that will be added later will be even stronger. (It was revealed to me in a dream)
nyooo...
>>568422364Obviously. She's also the best one.>>568425447For some dumbass reason, I once dreamed of her as a black clothed, red eyes, red winged Ilias.Or at least, I think that was her.
>>568409015>>568411660I honestly believe if she found a husband as devoted to Ilias but with enough of a sex drive to want sex any day with a succubus (so average human NPC in this game) she could control her desires by focusing on him.
>>568435398ahahahahahahah
>>568398287Please tell me how you got through Gold Fort.
>>568420068You know I'm starting to think maybe loli monster girls aren't half bad..... but I'm not even into lolis. what is happening to me!?
>>568407893Hiruko is a bug, isn't she? Bug meat is pretty flavorless.
>>568435398Isn't this the one begging for a "shota with a trainable anus"?
>>568407893So that mean Hiruko is cringe?
>>568439206No, this is the one who pretended to be a nun to lure men for sex but then began to really believe in Ilias became good at heart. But since she's so bad at controlling her desires, when she gets too horny she attacks people. She also has a bad relationship with Sister Lamia for reasons not explained.
>>568438790Hiruko is a weird dimensional leech thing. We have no idea how many monster species popped out of her messy genetic soup.
>>568422364It's Loli Azathoth so what do you think
>>568441652I thought if that wakes up everything dies
>>568443151Chaos isn't a retard like the big meat ball at the center of the universe.
>>568443419no but it was kinda stated that if the eye looks on you your destroyedshe has the capacity to destroy all of existenceand that reality is the dream of chaos in the section where you go to the back of hadesalso if you are a bad dad existence does get destroyed so yeah she's plenty capable of destroying existence.Both seem inspired by chaos from greek to some degree. Both even have the nickname chaos.Nuclear chaos is azathoth's.
>>568414893>it's not that hardIt's harder than you're making it sound, giving someone a custom cut-in is one thing because I already did that, trying to add new things like characters without causing any problems is another. There's a lot of systems I'm realizing I have to try and account for like gift/affection and I'm still learning how to make 'events' function properly.Although this has been on a 2.41 version of the game and I haven't figured out how to edit Part Three specifically yet.>>568414997>>568415609Okyuu (and Friends)>will be destroyedI already built her entire Cafe/Restaurant in a sandbox and haven't added it to Paradox yet but I was able to keep Reina's cut-in between three different versions of the game so it just depends on how big/small the thing trying to be added is.I can't help it.I just really like Okyuu. She's cute.I have her trait finished at least so she's ready for trying to implement wholesale.
>>568415609oh also he's working on a Light Novel and NG++ turned into a full on fourth route so there's that.>>568445719I still consider her more like Yog-Sothoth to be honest, except with the mentality of a neglected child since that's quite literally what she is. So instead of controlling/wrangling/directing/etc Azathoth it ended up going the other way around.
>>568457184https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>568457370https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
As the saying goes, a harpy in the bed is worth two in the bush.
>>568457797What if I pick up the two hapries in the bush and take them to my bed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qNHTriYVuA
>>568438706you tastes are changing, it happens sometimes>>568452225>It's harder than you're making it sound, giving someone a custom cut-in is one thing because I already did that, trying to add new things like characters without causing any problems is another. There's a lot of systems I'm realizing I have to try and account for like gift/affection and I'm still learning how to make 'events' function properly.yes, the problem is less the engine and more the current spaghetti code and interactions between plugins and etc.>>568460017cute, i want one
>>568439574You're cringe!
I am gonna need some help.I got the 3.06 raw file and used the Arzor X english patch and the patcher runs through no problem but the game is still in japanes what i could have doen wrong. I followed the guide step by step.
A fence-sitter who sways with the wind, once down on his luck, no one paid any heed, and everyone came to trample him. Heh, it really is laughable.
which of the lilith sisters is the most fixable? I would try my luck at astaroth
>>568490236Definitely Astaroth. Morrigan's too bratty and you'd die trying to correct her. Lilith is just too unpredictable.
>>568435398>husband as devoted to Ilias but with enough of a sex drive to want sex any day with a succubusthat is me, yes
>>568490236>fixableOnly way would be to Depower them, Morrigan would just be your average youngest child with ADHD if she didn't have succ powers.
Tamamo looks different than i remember
>>568398143Eva IS the best wife for having fun hobo adventures with while getting easy money and easy sex.
>>568494309Do you mean like being her pimp? I don't think there are many opportunities to making money as a weak, smelly hobo.
>>568495805>Eva>weakpfff... also her musky smell is very alluring
>>568491740It would only help Morrigan. Astaroth suffers too much from Morrigan and being middle management rather than being some godlike being, and Lilith already got depowered so it's something she already has experienced and her problems are more from the chaos route
>>568490236astaroth yeah, morrigan is too fucking retarded and lilith dont want to be fixed
>>568490236Depends on what you mean by fixable.Even though they have the most tasteless scenes in the game, they are otherwise not bad people. If you mean by personality wise, good luck with that. Morrigan is one the stupidest people in the game, Astaroth is pretty big whore, who fucks a lot of guys as a way of coping, and Lilith is a pedo who likes little boys.
>>568496939based omniblob
>>568501603>they are otherwise not bad people.Anon they take wicked glee in thoughtlessly murdering the people of luddite village. Sure Luddite village were bad people but enjoying murder rape doesn't exactly make you a great person regardless of who you do it to
>>568502773they arent that bad compared to their disgusting plant aunt
>>568496939>level 70She'd get eaten alive by a singing slime princess
>>568502773Lilith said that massacre was far more personal than any of the others they did, indicating the cruelty they were inflicting on the girls effected their actions.Either way, they were still trying to save them by releasing their souls into MW. TrTr just didn't bring closure to that chapter, since we have no idea what their ultimate fates were.
>>568503486>since we have no idea what their ultimate fates were.Their souls and lives weren't returned after the worlds smashed together, all of them (even the ex-virgin shota Lilith killed) no doubt went through Hades
>>568499317Probably. Morrigans the only one of the three i kind of liked, her doting on nuroko was endearing, and at her core she's a simplistic idiotic adrenaline junkie. I can fault her slightly less than the other two>>568503486They where chomping at the bit to dryfish luddite village, they enjoyed dryfishing an entire town and would have done it way more if they could get away with it
>>568504054They felt like utter shit after killing innocent people even when they were cleared of wrong doing by Echidna getting blamed.Lilith especially was really hurt by it, probably because she also had the Judgement route dryfish massacre on her head as well. They are not the evil mass murderers you are making them out to be.
>>568504413They have that shonen syndrome of bad guys turned good guys, I think they where definetly initially made up to be purely antagonists in part 1 and early part 2, before the writing changed and they switched to "oh also we need to salespitch our world ideology at you that will determine the fate of your dimension" after you spent the past dozens of hours cleaning up their messes.
Just don't trust Succs, mermaids, or plants and you'll find coexistence being much more accepted
>>568506000I guess it ultimately was determined by what kind of person Minagi ended up as. The Lilith Sisters' mopiness in the Chaos route does line up with destroying the lessons of self-control their mother put in their head, and feeling ashamed of being "that" kind of succubus their society hates. If Minagi had been the one from a OVA, then the Lilith Sisters' new found humanity wouldn't have made a lick of sense since they were just being the kind of succubus their mom was a-okay with.
>>568504413trtr could've written the lillith sisters go through jacob's ladder tier excruciating mental trauma and I'd still think their plot shit. Having them get essentially mind controlled to commit war crimes just kind of does nothing for their characters and forces the viewer to watch them commit horrific acts for no catharsis because they didn't even want to do it anyways, what was even the point.
>>568508258TrTr wanted the Calamities to be connected with a past event. The lust virus that the Lilith Sisters either was unintentionally infected with, or purposely unleashed on the Harpies, was used for, what else, but a lust virus Calamity.
>>568508740You mean the lust virus calamity that we see the harpies successfully contain and deal with and DONT see the harpies killing a bunch of people over? I'm aware that Echidna is a calamity but she's also a fictional character and trtr could have simply not written her to force the lillith sisters to do that or shown them attempting to resist it. What they did wasn't really relavent to anything and mostly just felt like gratuitous snuff-service, as well as the fact that in my experience writing a mind control plot and never writing the person who's being mind controlled resisting the mind controlled is just guaranteed to make you hate that person
>>568501603>Morrigan is one the stupidest people in the game
>>568501603>who fucks a lot of guys as a way of copingWell NTA but wouldn't the way to fix Astaroth be to help her get out of the bad situation with her sisters so she stops needing to do copious amounts of drugs and sex in order to cope with her horrendous situation and extreme levels of stress?Astaroth is honestly not that bad of a person once you talk to her outside of the AW/MW, she's just constantly exhausted from having to tardwrangle two absolute mental cases who both force her to do all of their paperwork for them (Morrigan through incompetence and Lilith because she's just kind of a prick).>>568509221NTA, viva la harpie, but when I was looking through the files during one datamining session I found several unused "alternative" versions of the overworld sprites. Either it went through different iterations before it "got right" or trtr just REALLY wanted to put this in the game, for some reason.
>>568509221Well harpies are not succubi so...
>>568508740It was purely by accident; ironically Lilith threatens to whoop Morrigan's blue-haired behind right in front of Lucretia for daring to say she'd kill all of the harpies and humans herself because such an event would cause a severe deviation from the timeline and speed up chaos, and then she ends up giving all of them a severe viral pandemic simply from visiting to "make sure it was fine" in the first place, due to them sweeping over the world from hellgondo down after killing Marcellus in an attempt to damage control what White Rabbit more-or-less arranged for them to do.Which, even as someone who dislikes Lilith a lot (and the other two for a long period of time), made what Aprio Lagos did to them by telefragging her with fucking space aids feel needlessly cruel. I don't think karmic punishment for their crimes is bad at all but this was clearly the one part of the game where trtr's desire for porn outweighed everything else that happened and ended up making the one (1) sidequest in the game that seems to be universally reviled as a result.
>>568509874>I found several unused "alternative" versions of the overworld spriteswhat ones
The Alices at the mansion that refuse to join me are making me go chi pa pa~~~~~~
>>568511961I think he means the ones with different male sprites giving it to Astaroth doggy style.Luka is one of these male sprites, and TrTr may have intended him to be dryfished and thrown into the pile along with the village.
>>568513246ah, interesting
>>568517007She kicked a puppy and I want her to die.
>>568517241White Rabbit did nothing wrong, she was literally dead at the time from helping you out.
>>568519224I love Andra. If she had been the miracle baby instead of Sonya, the childhood friend would actually win for a change.
>>568519672yeah, her design is damn cute
>Oh no! The enemy is too strong for us!Harpy's feather>Oh no! We're surrounded with no way out!Harpy's feather>but-Harpy's feather
>>568520469>the party harpy starts biting you because you plucked all her feathers.
>>568520469>I'M NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT
Most anons in this general are asleep.Sweet dreams, boys.
>>568522247Im probably gonna stay up all night
>>568520469Item is not just some game mechanic, it's shown to be a free get out of jail card on multiple occasions, except when it's not. TrTr should have known better that inventory items can't be acknowledged in game. If FF7 said phoenix feathers really do bring people back from the dead, would we truly believe Aeris would just be given a water funeral without anyone brining them up?
>>568526192>TrTr should have known better that inventory items can't be acknowledged in game. If FF7 said phoenix feathers really do bring people back from the dead, would we truly believe Aeris would just be given a water funeral without anyone brining them up?Hasn't she been through enough...
>>568526518Phoenix Feathers not only bring people back to life, or wake them up after getting knocked out. But they also rejuvenate people who cummed so hard, they went in Critical Ecstasy. Men should be carrying one at all times.
>>568526871Except Micaela.
>>568526871They actually explain this if you bring Mini to her; they don't bring people back to life, they just restore the consciousness or health to those near or close to death who are still healthy enough.It's like when they tried to revive Galuf in FF5 with a liteny of spells like curaga then raise then resorting to the phoenix downs and elixers but nothing works.
>>568526192>TrTr should have known better that inventory items can't be acknowledged in game.And after a while, that did stop happening on some level
>>568526192>>568530768We're not exactly treating the RPG elements with seriousness here.
Reina looks very cute in a t-shirt
>>568540326adorable
I have some free time so I'm working on a new stadium for the team, I had a funny vision of making it the evaluation screen with a giant Ilias. I think it looks cool but the other side of the stadium feels empty.At first I thought of adding random angel PNGs but what about you guys tell me what you want to see around the stadium? Also for the pitch, I just glass fine? Should I use a different colour?Also, I did add the eyes to Okyuu.
>>568539245Rumi so so fucking cute holy shit.
>>568554147Maybe have stands that are the CG select screens.
I can't believe it took me this long to realize Hiruko's outfit is basically a slight riff on Alucard from Hellsing's girl form... They're even both shape-shifting people-eating abominations.
>>568554147i wonder how much of her boobs take up the arena.
>will marry the first girl who hugs me gently and pats my head>monster, angel, human - doesn't matterAm I a manwhore..?
>>568570397Yeah
Pat the Rat!
Mouse Spouse!
Cheese, Please!
>>568570397>will marry the first gitl who tells me that everything is going to be alrightanon... we're all manwhores down here...
>>568570397No, monstergirls are just good at grooming humans with their pussies.
>>568570397you are just lonely, just like me and lots of other men
It's dried fish time!
>pick ilias for my second playthrough>don't get to see her interaction with prom when we meet her because she is already in my partyI was really looking forward to this too...
>>568599832Finally!
>>568600106There's supposed to be an interaction for Promstein meeting herself on a NG+ run if you have her in the party when you enter that tartarus. But the real funny interaction between Ilias and her is in the first camp scene after she's recruited so you shouldn't miss out on that at least.
>>568600602I've had both Prom and Nuruko on my reserve party since I got a hold of the castle but the rooms where I'm supposed to meet them were both empty. No dialogue or anything.
>>568593354Can you just zip up all these so i can hoard them?
>>568601295huhThat's not normal, there's supposed to be funny interactions for nearly every recruitment on NG+, I remember this pretty strongly. But I remember these from Parts 1 and 2 and I'm assuming you're on a Part 3 version. Did trtr mess something up on accident? There's very, very few times that bringing someone to themselves doesn't trigger an interaction, even Morrigan had one with herself on the ship where she (the boss) thinks chaos has deteriorated the world significantly more than she thought. The only one I can think of who didn't respond to themselves in Part 1 is Lucretia, who has no reaction to seeing herself in the tower again, and yet she actually has secret reactions for bringing her around the Harpy Village right after this during the period of time the epidemic was cured but she was not, all of which are just various "...." reactions to things like asking who helped take care of the plants, which I always took as implying Lucretia is aware of the situation and deliberately keeping quiet so things will play out 'correctly'.
>>568602524>even Morrigan had one with herself on the shipAnd Morrigan also comments a lot on the trio's doings during Part 1, often explaining what is going on, only to be promptly tuned out and ignored by the party so the normal mystery such that it is can play out.It will be worth it after all is said and done to properly go back and replay lots of parts of the game with relevant characters for that story bit on a stacked NG+ with everyone recruited.Chrome is particularly amusing since she thinks her future self is a doppleganger monster who will steal her soul if she acknowledges it.
>>568602524Boss fights thus far have a comment from the recruited counterpart before they begin but that's all. Even the bandit 4 didn't appear in town after beating them. Didn't notice Lucretia's dialogue in the village since the talk mod being random on NPCs sucks but the fact they don't appear at all is concerning. I also checked on the inn since Teeny is the only bandit I don't permanently have on my party hoping that was the trigger for the fuckup but no dice.
>hop on to gelbooru to see if jingai made any new tamamo art>hatterene and kirlia insteadkek
>>568606257Even though I dont like Pokefuckers, I forgive him, because he recently drew the most underrated Kitsune in the game.
Afraid of monster raping your penis?Hide your it inside Angel Pussy, where no monster can reach!~
>>568610064>Afraid of monster raping your penis?>Hide your it inside Winged Elf Pussy, where no monster can reach!~What did "anon" mean by this?
Paradox ng+ sounds cool But i don't want to replay through part 1 and 2 again
>>568610064Best offer I've ever gotten. Thank you ilias, for this sacrifice.
>>568610831Elves aren't Monsters though
>>568315940The poll will close on the 1st.
>>568618287Ok so elves and angels are offtopic?
>>568619101I've been in these threads so long I think anything vaguely humanoid has been on topic at some point.
>>568619101Tell me, anon. How do you feel about this character, and how right she is?
>>568621376Why do you avoid answering my question? Are they monstergirls or not?
>>568619220I mean it's basically inhuman=monster
Maximalist definition for monster girls/boys:>a non-human that primarily appears in a form with a human-shaped skull, spine and torsoElves count, angels count, so do Twi'Leks, Elder Scrolls Fire Atronarchs or early hominids What does not count is Zootpia characters, Sonic the Hedgehog, your cat or abstract geometric shapes with a moe face.I know the definition is so broad it's practically useless, but anything less will get you a "Pluto is not a planet anymore" situation. At best you could throw in a requirement for an anime artstyle.The minimalist definition is>[my wife]Because obviously it's not a real monster girl if it doesn't follow my, and only my, personal fantasy.
>>568623525Luka once fucked a statue wit a hole in it.
>>568622239And who is to say those aren't cosplay adornments?
>>568622239No they're not monsters but they are allowed and cherished SOLEY because I the king of /mggg/ has allowed them to be here
>>568601510a guy just shared his collection on panda, just search for the MGQ tag
>>568603948>picmorrigan is really fucking funny sometimes
>>568636035I like moments when she is the serious one.Don't know how it's done because I think you need to do Singularity first before Echidna shows up, but her feeling sick to her stomach about the fake lovefest between Gnosis and Zion after you fix her hacking is really funny.
>>568636968>I think you need to do Singularity first before Echidna shows up, but her feeling sick to her stomach about the fake lovefest between Gnosis and Zion after you fix her hacking is really funny.u got pics?
>>568633542top 10 most cursed monstergirl images number 15
>>568637339Less cursed than Potatomamo
>>568637671fluffy tails...
>>568635597Wrong, you will always be fabulous man.
>>568637848
>>568637671very cute
>>568637143>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3_MUnRO5jU&t=637sAround the 4:50 mark. I still am interested in just how they got this dialogue. Can you really ignore Singularity for 90% of the Chaos route?
>>568646989>youtubeuhm, i guess it makes sense, a lot of the ost can be found there too, ty
>>568646989You can actually pick up Gnosis very early in the chaos route, even before doing the four cities, the only requirement is beating the 3 null kin when you enter the tower which can be quite the hurdle since you'll be entering one shot city and if you can't properly amp your damage you'll be at it for a while.
>>568612149NG+ lets you start back at the Big Decision in Part 3 if you don't to start over from the beginning.
>>568658109We're talking about how all of the actually fun cool NG+ stuff is specifically in Parts 1 and 2 because trtr was able to focus on filling the game with as much soul as possible due to the scope not getting out of hand yet. Skipping all of it would defeat the point. The only NG+ dialogue I had seen (and that seems to be in the game from what others looked at in the files) for Part 3 is bringing Adramelek to her first fight
Is doppelanon somewhere in here?
>>568659478i-indecent!!
>>568658295I noticed a that a lot of the newer characters didn't have much random dialogue. I had Toro on my team and I only ever saw her talk one time.
>>568665135Still surpised she ended up being one of my favorite characters and that you could even pick her your marriage partner.
>>568665960same, she's a cute retard
>>568666083Sometimes girls are cuter when they're a little retarded.
are there any must have roles in the team? I started out again a little while ago. Stuff like thieves I guess?
>>568667793Imagine the threesome:Luka and his mama bulli Eva (sexually)...
>>568635904>7 folders uf untagged imagesHello satan.
>>568671636eva doesnt have a ring scene right?
>>568670547A thief and someone to top up the party health is all you need, the rest is up to taste but singers is your best source for buffs until they lose their speed advantage in part 3.
>>568528460Wait really? That’s awesome if they bothered going through any “revival” methodsI thought the actual explanation would be that it worked within a short time frame actually. Something like a few minutes or a limit to the body changes.What about the church resurrection? I was playing DQ3 and that’s where I revive people that fall in combat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOIY5z2gidUNice Monster Girl Raising Sim.
>>568689935You are basically carrying around some comatosed bodies. Kind of comes off as comical in all honesty.
>>568689935How can monsters compete..?
>>568626157>Amira >Mimi>Any and every slime
>>568673771yeah, still its nice, there is stuff there i have never seen>>568690854i did see that video, its very interesting, the designs are cute, shame the game has no fan translation.
>>568665135>>568665960The blatant hypocrisy only makes her more endearing.
I am currently looking through the wiki to see what characters would be available for a Paradox girl monster only playthrough.
Wake up sheeple
>>568709467SSR Golden Swimsuit lolifox
>>568670547Alchemists. Always have one collecting materials for you.If you skipped Sonya, add in a merchant or item user.
>>568710024i would prefer a micro bikini, but the school swimsuit is still nice
>>568692704If you're carrying a pretty girl it's also romantic.
>>568710262Oh. Is that why Sonya chose to be a white mage?
>>568689935>>568692704same thing in earthbound iirc, in canon there you are just dragging the half-dead corpses of the other kids until they are revived.
>>568710084Doesn't skipping Sonya or Lime prevent you from getting the Pocket Castle unless it's ng+
Have you ever gotten flashbanged by decades old fan art for something made by the shirft dev? I have
>>568711002what is it?I was actually surprised that the SEQUEL dev used to make quite nic 2hu art.
>>568711082An old SMT game probably
>>568711298intereting
>>568710793Skipping Sonya does, yes.The pocket castle is absurdly convenient. I want to do my next run without it.
>>568711082Yeah this >>56871129 it makes sense since shrift's setting is basically smt but smut, still surprised me
>>568712693Can you even change your party around without it?Losing out on the loli bandit conveniences sucks
>>568689935They did, Mini tries to offer her own phoenix feathers in an attempt to save Micaela but is informed that it will not work and she can't be saved as her body is too far gone. If I'm remembering it correctly, what Ilias told her was that Micaela's soul had pretty much already left her body as you've arrived here long too late to intervene in any meaningful way, and there's nothing any of you can do, she's just going to bleed out and die."It works within a short time frame" is more-or-less what I was trying to say, to be honest, I was just trying to clarify why the process seems to work like that. Mini's a sweetheart for trying.
>>568670364
>>568713667Seal all monsters
>>568713072>Can you even change your party around without it?NTA but yes actually, a priest shows up in Ilias Temple for you to do it. However, because you can't recruit the majority of girls (or characters) without the castle you're mostly limited to specific NPC/mandatory recruitments if you aren't on NG+.This was originally more of an easter egg/oversight in the initial release of Part 1 but come Part 2 trtr added a lot more variance that occurs if you happen to pick this route and then made a secret achievement for actually beating 99% of Part 2 on a Sonyaless Run because once you get to the snowy continent White Rabbit FORCES you to recruit Sonya (and Nuruko) by positioning them right in front of the cave you have to go through in order to progress since the climax of the game literally requires Sonya to happen due to her being the final boss.
>>568714137Can you get the achievement on NG+?If not I'll try a castleless run for fun.
>>568714381I'm pretty sure you can get the achievement on NG+, but I can't remember for certain, I'm just pretty sure I recall others reporting this.......I haven't actually gotten the achievement myself yet, it's one of the things I still need to do that I never got around to somehow. I started a few NG+ runs with the goal being to get there that way but they kept fizzling out and now I'm both distracted by other games taking up my time and trying to figure out how to properly VXAce the spaghetti code to do things.
>>568574423>>568574606>>568574769holy fucking kino
>>568714137Can you still recruit the BFers?
>>568574423>>568574606>>568574769>>568716209ratJAM
>>568714137>>568714381>>568715516This is what a bare minimum run looks like (Ilias side) prior to the end of Part 2.Mind you I said bare minimum, you can obtain Chrome and other quest characters, but not Promestein since she's evidently tied in the quest spawn sequence like Nuruko after Sonia.I assume anyone important missing, like Chrome and Lolistein, shows up at the great decision in Part 3 regardless to fix any other missing roster issues.
>>568713667even the clothes are fake
>>568719303Can you recruit BFers?
I wish we had a game with a lot of ratgirls or a ratgirl heroine
>>568731774who made this?
>>568737195idk
>>568696321Human girls are evolving because THEY are the ones having to compete.And it’s evolution evolution, not Pokemon metamorphosis. The girls that can’t compete with monsters don’t procreate. So all that’s left are the lolibabas and the dynamite oneesans. Both with aggressive libido to rape men before a monster girl can snatch them
>>568742012...What did she do, again?
>>568742887everything wrong
>>568742887killed millions at least, among other things
>>568742887She made paradox so she deserves fate worse than death
>>568744407do you really hate monster girl quest paradox that much anon?
>>568744842Not that anon, but I'm upset that my headcanon was completely destroyed by it. I will never forgive TrTr.
>>568742887She coveted that hero, I suppose
>>568745928What, about Salamander being a goblin?
>>568747212That vn luka gets a happy ending
>>568744407>really cute and well-mannered girl>exists across time>made the world you live inLuka wants to kill this.
>>568747357Deicide tends to bring a lot of misfortune and grief. He must now suffer his misdeeds by stamping those thousands of paper forms, because running a kingdom is boring.
>>568748262Why doesn't he just hire bureaucrats? Is he stupid?
>>568706131luka is a hypocrite too. Like ilias.He hates violence yet keeps committing it infact the guy seems to like fighting.
>>568749225>infact the guy seems to like fighting.In fact you sound like the retard who didn't read the VN.
>>568725354gotta beat enough if you want the pink haired one iircCant do it on the flat patch of 2.0 and 1.0 had to wait for 1.01 and 2.01 so you should be able to
>>568749620I did and i know the fucker has a hidden sadistic streak due to some choices you can make. i.e just not giving a shit when dealing with humans and just refusing to hold back turning them into scarecrows until someone figures out how to unseal them in yamatai.. at least its in yamatai...Combine that with paradox bringing it up direclty with rami falling off clif spam.Its safe to say some part of luka is hypocritical and thats lilely the part of him thats like his mother.
>>568750010and then there's him when he meets himself he doesnt even try talking doppel down if luka knew doppel was him he'd likely have a chance to talk that out, no he just goes right to fucking fighting it.Like bruh thats literally you.
>>568745928I was gonna say something but then saw >>568747357 and understood what you meant.At least he unlocked the infinite vacation glitch. Luka has that at least.>>568749225>anon doesn't comprehend what a martial pacifist is"Dislikes fighting" and "Will fight if necessary" are not contradicting statements nor mutually exclusive anon.In fact that's basically one of the most objective clear cut things about all versions of Luka this is honestly the best description of him. He prefers non-violent and peaceful solutions but is willing to defend himself or help others if necessary. Nothing about that is hypocritical.It's not even that unique there's a ton of characters like this in movies/games/literature/media/etc.
Wait Ilias is a virgin?
>>568750172Guess he's racist towards aritificial lifeforms.? :shrug:
>>568750817Do you really think illias would let some random human fuck her
>>568751832for a second i thought baptism would be that cuz h-game but... no.But this implies in paradox the fucking deranged kink fiend Ilias(piss bondage ect..) is a fucking virgin cuz it is the vn Ilias.
>>568752087>deranged kink fiend Ilias(piss bondage ect..)wait what? I've been doing ilias route so i've never seen this
>>568750172>why didn't he try talking to the doppelganger that was specifically created to counter and defeat him when they're right about to play the anti-holy discs and invade ilias's house at the climax of the war>>568750817....did you not think she was? why wouldn't she be.>>568751030Luka is only against killing if he thinks there's another solution or the person could be redeemed; he's perfectly willing to kill several of the antagonists in Part 2 and it's only because of Alice doing it for him (or talking him down) that he doesn't. He kills all three of the main antagonists without any hesitation or restraint. All of the dolls were killed or destroyed. In all honesty there's probably a solid number of chimeras/angels that were killed by him and Alice.I don't remember 100% but I'm pretty certain Ranael was obliterated from the face of the earth given she was both the commander of the slaughter of remina and also who Ilias sent to burn his hometown to the ground out of spite. Frankly the difference between her and her in Paradox is night and day (which is understandable, since Ranael committed neither of her warcrimes there).
>>568752087I recall some anon claiming japanese fans were calling Ilias unique because she just wanted to kill the monster when other goddesses would want you to fuck them.>>568752415First request. She steps on Luka and pisses on him. It's where Pisslias, holy water, and lemonade jokes in this thread came from.
>>568752415Have you not requested a sec scene from her she's fucking wild.iirc if you give her the marriage ring she gives you a fucking dog collar she's a fucking freak
>>568752634>request>has never hit the button beforeah I see, i've managed to skillfully dodge this by playing this game as prudishly as possible, then.
>>568752561i did not think ilias would be a virgin no she's fucking old for 1like really fucking old and a female goddess in a h-game...2. she offers luka a handy for free if you get 50 evals which kinda really threw me off the thinking ilias was a virgin thing.3. some endings and loss scenes she rapes luka ilias does not act like a virgin she acts like a fucking degenerate.
>>568752634Ilias was that, now she is okay with humanity fucking monsters and angels to create horrible abominations like Neris and Nero. It's only Luka she wants to herself.
>>568752858>doesnt use pleasure attacks>closes eyes during BF>overgrinds for bossfights (paradox diff)>and yet Elves are my favorite racemy virginity skill is maxed
>>568753173>He doesnt close his eyes during fights when the monsters are half naked means he's staring at naked tits
>>568752087>i thought baptism would be that cuz h-gameI'm pretty sure Ilias would smite you for saying this.Also yes, she's a virgin.Those scenes are terrible though.>>568752415see >>568752634>>568752764I think you're interpreting a much different kind of 'sub text' instead of just going by what Ilias actually says. She's doing it specifically to humiliate him both as a method of training and also because she's annoyed with his behavior. She gives him a collar because she ultimately views Luka more like a possession or pet that belongs to her.>>568753037>she's oldshe screams at Alma that she cannot be considered a grandmother because she did use any biological reproduction when she gave birth to her children; but also like seriously did you think she was a slut or something? The first five minutes of the game should make it immediately obvious she's a virgin.>"free handy"She's literally fucking livid when you get this because she knows you went out of your way to lose in every single fight to see it. It's presented by her as nothing but a punishment, which Luka also views it as, designed to shame Luka into not failing so often anymore. She has a very similar mindset in the paradox scenes.Seriously, anon, this is some advanced levels of coombrain you've got going on here.I know this is an h-game but still.
>>568754239The reason he is super bored and restless in the new order, is he doesnt fight anymore. Sparring is one thing, but the life and rape struggle is over, especially with him being so OP, no one can stand against him.He holds some animosity to his kids because he is on the sidelines, while they enjoy the never-ending battlefield that is the multiverse.
>>568747357its not a unhappy one, just bureaucracy, comes with being the leader of half the world more or less.Really i dont think luka is unhappy, could be better yeah, but a lot worse too.>>568750357>In fact that's basically one of the most objective clear cut things about all versions of Luka this is honestly the best description of him. He prefers non-violent and peaceful solutions but is willing to defend himself or help others if necessary. Nothing about that is hypocritical.Luka works the same as Kirby or the doctor from doctor who, will try the pacifism route but arent against deleting you from reality if needed.
>>568750010No you didn't otherwise you'd know why he even got the angel halo in the first place.
>>568755152>he is on the sidelineshe can at any time just leave, he wont because thats not how luka is, but you understand, someone needs to stop the retardation from happening and be a leader.
>>568755492Someone didn't see the sprites and profile of VN Luka hidden deep in Paradox's files.
>>568755729yes he looks tired af iirc, what about it?plus trtr often just changes that stuff between versions, part 2 also had a lot of leftover content iirc
>Granberry
>>568750817>>568751832>>568753037>>568753729TBΗ the Q&A simply says "in the sense" she never had sex with a human, but let's not forget angels can have other monster parts like tentacles or even be born as herms.
>>568755492Why are foxes so peak...
>>568755943GIVE ME MY TOAST YOU DUMB LIZARD, IM HUNGRY>>568756052They are the best, with apologies to harpyanon.
>>568755152I don't know if that's entirely the case, if there's anything that's expressed about him it's that Luka completely and unconditionally loves his kids and wants to help them. From the conversations he seems to have played a big part in the mission Nero and Neris are now carrying out, and he was always happy to see them when he could.Luka just also isn't really into sparring, since he's the kind of person who can't put all his energy into something if he knows that it doesn't really matter. It's not a "real" fight, so on a subconcious level he just can't really put his all into it. IIRC this is why he loses to Alma and Granberia despite being miles stronger than them at this point if you take them up on the sparring offer in the postgame sequence.>>568755492>>568755729I regret sharing it at this point but the bird's out of the cage I guess.In any case I don't think Luka is "miserable" so much as he just regrets the circumstances but believes it was for the greater good. He still took time away from work (enough to where it got him in trouble according to the third MMTD collab) but I imagine that what he wishes the most is that he could've been able to raise his children normally.I don't blame him either. Have you seen how Neris turned out? I'd wish I could go back in time too. At the bare minimum to just make sure Tamamo was raising both of them, what sort of nimrod would you have to be to trust Granberia with a child Alice.
>>568756269>but believes it was for the greater good.this, the problem is that he is the only one that has the power to maintain the retardation away so he has to be the leader.>nerisoh come one, she's fine, half of it is just lucifina's blood anyway.
>>568756124There's plenty of bird lovers in this thread, but each to their own
>>568756596yeah honestly i like both almost the same, foxes just a bit more, in mgq anyway
>>568714381I got it on a NG+ run when Part 2 came out. You don't have to do a Sonyaless run on your first game for the achievement.
>>568742887Killed a bunch of people. Strung Heinrich along. Got recruited by Ilias. Helped make White Rabbit. Tried to kill and eat Ilias. Got beaten by Luka. Go teleported back in time to another world and became a god. Fucked everything up. Then messed around for a bit only to get completely demolished in every route and made totally irrelevant and have her god-existence retconned away by Luka and his daughter. Poor girl can't catch a break.
>>568752087>baptismIlias pees on you. There's a reason why monsters say that blessed heroes smell like angel liver.
>>568757037at least she isnt dead or worse
>>568757229hm....i hate how that makes sense
>>568757229no she doesn't. her blessing just makes you extremely unattractive to them.
>>568756702Lemons are delicious, Hiruko you better eat that thing don't waste good food
>>568756702>underfeeding HirukoYou reap what you sew
>>568757572she probably would eat it to be fair>>568757580why is she gonna eat such third-rate food
>>568749721Just clarifying: You can recruit BFers for Sonyaless runs now?
>>568713128That makes much more sense
>>568755729Can you post them?
>>568767787nta but I'm probably the one who posted what he's talking aboutthere's one of him smiling, so it's not like they're all bad, but you can definitely see the tired on our man's face.
>>568767787>>568768143yeah, he just looks very tired, not totally unhappy imo, just tired.
>>568768143With Ilias gone, were the ancestors unsealed?
>>568757445Is the Ama-Ama dango as good as they say?
>>568768971no.that would be a terrible idea.>>568769592I've actually gotten to try dango at this point and yeah it's pretty good.
>>568768971No, the seal is dependent on dark mana.But, we really don't know what happened to the OG world in the last 20+ years, outside of new Remina being founded, Nero and Neris being born, and those two being trained by a bunch of Alice's buddies. But I would think something as big as five super powerful demi-gods, and maybe even their mother, being unleashed would have been mentioned by the twins.
>>568757445>her blessing just makes you extremely unattractive to them.As it turns out, the men of Pornof were Ilias's chosen people all along.
>>568756269Granberia was the second-best option among Alice's personal retainers.Would you entrust the task of raising a child to Alma or Erubetie?
>>568770334Maybe Pornof was just founded on Ilias' pissing hole?
>>568770334>Pornof mentioned
>>568771003I said in that sentence that Tamamo should've taken them both. I would not trust any of the other three with a child, no.
>>568772263Neris doesn't seem book smart.She seems more unga bunga, and probably wouldn't have excelled in magic craft like Nero. She is one of the greatest swordsman in the multiverse, so Granberria did do a good job at least in the strength training department.
>>568771003What would Erubetie have done if Alice and Luka asked her to look at Nero?
>>568773919just look at him, for hours, everyday, maybe ask how he is, sometimes
>>568772872>Granberria did do a good job at least in the strength training department.i wonder how granberry felt training a descendant of lucifina.
>>568756269Outside of wanting to fuck her dad and being a bit forgetful, I don't really think Neris turned out too bad.>>568771003I mean I could see Alma being a good aunt figure. It's not as restrictive as being a full-time guardian and doesn't come with as much expectations which weirdly makes me think she'd take it more seriously/put more effort into it. I've also always gotten the vibe that Neris inherited some succubus traits from her monster lord blood. Could just be cause she's a shiki though.
>>568775641Neris is pretty much the most chill character shiki ever designed
>>568772263My mistake.>>568773919Nero would never make it to 4'.>>568775641What would having Alma for an (NBR) "aunt" do to a man?
>What would having Alma for an (NBR) "aunt" do to a man?absurd amounts of teasing, nero would probably become a pervert from the he teasing alone
>>568777635forgot to quote >>568777573
>>568772872it's not about book smarts, granberia literally had her living like a hobo eating boars and weeds with zero interaction outside of constant fights to the death.also probably played a part in glorifying her dad.
>>568775778Besides chaos but she required correction first. she's autistic.
>>568781106i keep forgetting chaos-chan was also designed by shiki
>>568781241Shiki dont draw lolis often only other one at the top of my head is vinum. so understandable shiki seems like a boob person.
>>568781921isnt vinum by tamamo's artist?
>>568782024Yes but shiki did her h-scene in the time loop.
>>568782064true, i mean as a character designer, i remember some of his murder succs being a loli too in some old art.
>>568782156
>>568783209yeah, this bitch, very cute one.A shame shiki dont do out of game MGQ art much like some other artists, would like to see more chaos-chan from him
>>568783209>>568783406That evil creature"cute"
>>568785960i know how dangerous she is, but she is cutestill, chaos-chan is prob the youngest girl i ever seen shiki do
>>568786786Chaos-chan is also the oldest girl Shiki has made canonically
>>568786921maybe the pure white devil is older? prob not i guess
I miss this silly little goober
>>568778358>probably played a part in glorifying her dad.Imagine reaching sexual maturity and realizing that you'll likely never meet a man who comes anywhere close to your level other than your father (legendary hero-king, god slayer) and your twin brother (dweeb). Her wanting to fuck Luka was inevitable.
Hag foxes...Hug foxes..?
>researching mythology for monster designs>reading Norse poem>it's just a giant list of monsters that chew on "Odin's wood"The jokes practically write themselves. Someone please convince me not to add another 30 girls to my project.
>The dark goddess' side was said to be the unequivocally strongest party in military might by far in the monster wars>6 ancestors somehow shitting themselves when hearing about Micaela>Meanwhile none of them died when both Micaela and Lucifina fought at the first monster wars, but Micaela just walks up to Kanade and nukes her with 0 effort in the AD invasionI just finished my first route so I hope I'm just missing lots of context because that looked pretty bad.
>>568802531Different Micaela.
>>568802531It’s inconsistent as fuck. Even in the VN Ilias treats her archangels as a tier of their own, meanwhile Micaela points out the sole reason Ilias won the war is because Alipheese 1 wouldn’t go through mutual destruction while Ilias would and then in Paradox when Ilias learns of the Angel World and the decisive victory she is surprised because the Angel Army was inferior (at least this means in her/VN timeline it was)
>>568802631I thought things were exactly the same in both timelines and the change was based on if Alipheese calles Ilias' bluff and got sealed.It would make more sense if the second gen of Seraphs like Uriel were pushing them after being made by Ilias with combat in mind but for the first gen to get retconned into being stronger against all previous statements makes no sense.
>>568803117called* god damn
>>568802861the uh archangels are things ilias didnt go through in main timeline cuz she thought the idea was bad as she was worried having people around the level of lucifina may betray her low and behold she wa sright.
>>568802531If Micaela puts everything into nuking one of the ancestors she could do it but it would leave her overextended to contend with the rest.
>>568802531AW Micheala had the full force of 6 new Seraph level angels. She didnt have to play defensive anymore, and have to worry about getting swamped or by Saja, who is her equal.You should also be asking why the MW faction failed to kill any Seraph until the last act of the war, when they had the number advantage since the start.
>>568802631Fundamentally parallel worlds are the same powerlevels and MW and AW is no exception.
>>568809224She still managed to pull a draw with Lucifina who was supposedly at least equal to her right after nuking Kanade and losing to Luka. Granted, Lucifina had used some power when breaking the barrier but some time had passed since then giving her more time to recuperate.>>568809548The final battle was 4v4 and it's only the second time the ancestors managed to freely move their physical bodies into the AD using Demiurge. Both times they did, they killed some Seraphs. Gnosis, Zion and Eden on the Monster Lord's castle and Tamamo practically neutralized Sariel on the second invasion. Unless I'm forgetting something, If Luka hadn't taken out the device right after Saja died, the Angels would have moved in the MW and won the 6v5 and ended things there.
With all that shit about Ilias earler being a virgin who seems to not like sex much why the fuck does she want to fuck Luka so badly she isnt a monster she doesnt have that excuse so can someone explain?
>>568811140I was talking about the GMW. Even with the number advantage, where Saja or three of the other Ancestors equal Micheala or Lucifina, it took a slow grind to finally corner the Heaven faction.But the moment the Heaven faction gained the number advantage with the new Archangels, it was clean sweep, with Fat Alice herself getting annihilated quickly.Michaela and Lucifina carried the Heaven faction hard in the OG timeline to hold out for so long.
at the end of the day, they're still all women
>>568811938For one, it's dominance.The ultimate victory includes turning the hero into a boy toy.But that's not all. Ilias had time to appreciate Luka, watching him grow up as a boy and a character, though from a third person point of view. Luka isn't just anybody, he's the hero whose adventure she followed and the last descendant of a lineage she also followed and "patiently" gave evaluations to. Her convoluted plan relied on Luka doing all the stuff he does. Who would be more worthy of taking her virginity?
>>568812340Pretty much. Ilias and Luka could just rape Luka hard enough he’d fall for them, make some concessions here and there and done.But they want far more than that in spite of wanting him. So while they are rapists they want him to take initiative here and there. It’s even understandable to some point with Ilias since Luka’s actions and choices are part of her judgement and she will decide to go through with including mankind in the genocide list or not depending on him.Alice on the other hand doesn’t have that excuse. And she will even have Tamamo drain his semen if he ends up with another monster girl in the end.
>>5688123280 of the dead Ancestors that caused the tide to turn were due to Heaven killing them. Saja was backstabbed by Marcellus and Minagi was assassinated by Kagetsumugi. The 4v4 wouldn't have been easily decided either and would have stalled things enough for Luka to find Ilias, forcing at least one Seraph to break the fight and for everyone else to get wiped the moment that happened.Still, Tamamo was a bad match for Sariel and Kanade was left there because she was the only one that could be oneshot all at once for plot reasons. The twins would have been easily killed if not for the bomb needing Kanade to off herself for the castle and everyone besides Kanade could have split to avoid the nuke and/or attack from multiple fronts in a fight of attrition with the fox being too slippery to just stand there and eat a nuke. The second gen except (very big maybe) Raphaela and Uriel were all very weak when compared to the Six Ancestors.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/145387943https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/145387962Lucia daughter. They intend to do Lily as part of the group as well. Then I guess that leaves Laplace, then they're done with the seekers of Truth group, not sure who the artist will be doing after that, though I do recall something about wanting to do some assorted queens at some point.
>>568815386How the GMW and decision routes played out are completely different, since the latter is a conflict between two AUs, while the other was a single planet. Not to mention Luka being the center focus of the conflict altered things completely.It's pretty much set in stone as far as TrTr describes it. The Monster faction couldn't sweep the Heaven faction in the OG timeline, and took almost 1000 years to finally get to the finish line before Ilias played her last hand. While the introduction of the new Archangels completely changed the prospects of the Heaven faction, reversing their losing streak, and wiping the Monster faction off the battlefield in a short amount of time.The final battle shows that the Archangels were not just bulldozers used to crash into the enemy, they were a cohesive unit that used teamwork and strategy under Michaela that the Ancestors could only dream of. Even that traitor played her part.
>>568814712>Luka could just rape Luka hard enough he’d fall for thema-anon?
>>568815548I think the chemical staff looks pretty cool, though I wonder how it's supposed to work. Also, what exactly is her and her mother's freakish summon supposed to be? It being a full blown demon monster looks kind of odd in MGQ, where these sort of things tend to have boobs and a vagina.
>>568802861I like to think that the way the war went got retconned in paradox. Let's be honest, compare the level of even a single cupid in the VN to that of an average monster. The only way monsters were winning that war was through the ancestors hard carrying their side
>>568820207Paradox and Part Three in particular is the part where trtr started caring significantly less about it being a porn game and more about creating their dream project of awesome/fun fantasy adventure that also happens to have porn baked into part of the setting.Lucia and Lily are cute, though.
>>568820368The average monster in the current era is super weak compared to the monsters of the GMW era. Everything was far stronger back then, even the humans if Morrigan is to be believed.There really isn't anything to retcon from the VN when it comes to the GMW. The only time we get the tiniest bit of information was from Michaela, and her info is the same in Paradox.Monster army was the superior force because it had the bigger numbers, which if TrTr's Q&A answer is still canon, was an average of one angel to ten monsters.
I wish Miranda had a unique quest with Granberry
Sex is a combat sport, one which is done in bed.
Isnt it a bit unrealistic that none of the 6 ancestors Hiruko excluded I guess would take lovers?Even tamamo just seems like she whored it up and didnt have anything steady
>>568822082Why focus on a single dish, even if it's incredibly tasty, when there's an entire buffet?
>>568822082Saja might have. We don't have a clue if Alice 3rd was some sort of magic baby, or Saja created her the old fashioned way.
>>568819567is there a cap for affection?
>>568822472The monster lords are extremely selective with their mateswhy wouldnt the others be?
>>568795796>The jokes practically write themselves.old myths are full of that, did you read loki being impregnated by a horse yet? its hilarious
>>568826515Nothing indicates that any of the MLs outside of Alice 16 and 17th, were a single man monster. And Alice 16th was the heroine, and the 17th is for incest fetish.
I got to see Sonya's memories trains her club skills by attacking tress til her hands are bleeding, trains her healing magic by repairing her broken hands, continues the cycle every single day after her priest lessons and has been doing it ever since Luka found her in the forest that one timeshe's definitely insane
>>568827532>she's definitely insaneshe's just a shounen protagonist
>>568827532Love is a curse.Every couple in MGQ ends in disaster.
>>568822082>Hiruko excludedOnly Hiruko? What, you think Kanon and Kanade are going to take someone as their boyfriend? It's straight dryfishing for them anon
>>568830767Kanade doesn't seem like someone who would dryfish a guy for the fun of it. Regardless, she would be sucking a hell of a lot of guys anyways.
>>568827059where are alice's siblings then?
>>568830767I can see them at least reproducingHiruko doesnt seem interested at all
>>568825180Probably, don't know what it is though
>>568827532>insaneShe's smart thoughbeit, training both skills at once.
>>568833354To be fair making clones is already a form of reproduction
>>568828985>>568829395>>568833830Chaos Goddess Black Alice calls her a doll, Sonya stops talking in babble just to say "You really don't get why I'm doing this do you?" before she blows herself upHelp me understand, If Sonya is aware of herself and just larping why is she pushing Luka away from her?
Uriela is underrated
>>568836903She's a shounen protagonist anon, they are fucking horrendous at feelings and how to act on said feelings most of the timein other words, she is just being dumb
>>568836903To save him you dolt, the human part of Sonya knows that she is an unstable automaton with the function to eradicate life in order to keep the balance and CGBA is an irredeemable psychopath. Her goal becomes obliterating the latter and she forces Luka out so she can accomplish this without destroying him as well. Even CGBA realized this in her final moments right before she's destroyed.>>568837307>trashshe's as rated as she deserves. the only 7A who's worse is the literal traitor.
>>568836676I am now imagining Gabriela giving birth to Sams.I am happy.
>>568841482>puts her own children in an organ grinderthat's almost worse
>>568842134That's pretty normal when you think about it.
>>568707139doesn't this guy have a goddess wife while saying gods bad
>>568822082I could see all of them taking lovers if they were on the same power level as them but males apart from Luka don't reach that
>>568843264>Luka's family*
>strawpoll progress>lovey-dovey, vanilla, procreative sex between luka and his aunt(?) is winning, just ahead of kitsune gangbang ntr>below them, alma ntr (feat. minagi) is neck-and-neck with luka having vanilla sex with his other aunt(?)>somewhere between, you have bdsm momcest>finally, near the bottom, "ilias please" is competing with the fateburns walking in on each other, and luka getting a life-changing blowjob from a no-name prostituteIliasxLuka really might not be incest.
>>568843868>IliasxLukait is, as much as ilias say otherwise
>>568844220If incest, why no incest numbers?
>>568844361people prefer the other ones than ilias
>>568844220nah, unless the kid came out of the vagina then they aren't related
>>568844706anon thats retarded
>>568844445One of the leading results is just Lucifina doing Ilias' thing with Ilias' boy. I don't buy it.
>>568844991>Lucifina doing Ilias' thing with Ilias' boy.people prefer luci than ilias anon, plus mom with son is hotter imo
>>568845074She hardly even knows him. Ilias is Luka's de facto maternal figure.
>>568845291people just dont like ilias that much, jesus christ anon it so simple
>>568845459They like both halves of her enough to lap every kitsune, but not the whole goddess?
>>568845721ilias is inferior than lucifina or micaela alone
>>568845291>Ilias is Luka's de facto maternal figure?? Luka's mother figure is orginal lucifina that died as a human
>>568849321After a life time working the fields, the tired husband hangs himself. Run, luka. Before it's too late.
>>568849321Anal fox
>>568849321does yao have a skill cut-in
>>568852165idk, i dont use her
>>568852165No.Even though he is one of the better artists in the game, he doesn't really go all the way for his girls like Setouchi or Un_Do. I can't think of a single girl of his, popular or otherwise, that got a cut-in.
>>568856432does he have a skeb by any chance?
>>568818261As I initially stated, I've only finised the AD route thus far and I can only comment on what I saw there and how little it made sense. I'd rather not get spoiled if it's something that shows up in other routes or the VN but it's pretty much a fact that everything transpired the same in both worlds until the very last moment when Alipheese either did or did not kill Ilias. I'm not sure why how fast one side takes out the other would matter when comparing the Six Ancestors -each having a completely different personality and goals and working under Alipheese who took a hands-off approach in "ruling"- and the Seraphs who were just puppets obeying commands senselessly.
>>568856604Yes he does, but he is really infrequent when it comes to requests, not to mention is is one of the more expensive artists of the MGQ band to commission.>>568856432I actually went and tried to find something with Jingai, but couldn't. I did however remember how Un_Do and Delphius created some summons that never became recruitable units. I'm kind of surprised that TrTr never brought these designs out, since some of them were passable to great. I especially like this super cute vampire knight summon that Un_Do made, and wish she ended up being a party member.
>>568815548i'd rather hiruko than lily
>>568814712>Luka could just rape luka hard enough to fall for him.DOPPEL WINS AGAIN.
>>568844445Yeah like aunty eden
>>568845291No she's his religious figureLuka's mother figure is his mommy issues.
>>568843868It wasnt there at the start cuz it says other the earliest (other) that was added was eden whoever added it is starting with a disadvantage cuz the people that would have voted for it have spent their vote points elsewhere.
>>568858509Eden was give the sister title out of pity.She isn't a piece of Ilias' soul, she is just the prototype for the later mass produced angels.There is nothing incestial about LukaxEden, not even in the metaphysical sense like Michaela.
>>568856230Luka has a steely will.
>>568857239maybe i'll try to commission a skill cut inthat's how Luka's cut-in got created
>>568860887I think Vinum got two, but I don't remember if either was drawn by Jingai, since she got new hentai scenes drawn by Shiki, and one of the cut-ins was drawn by Raichi.
>>568860887you can also just edit some already avaliable art to make a cut-in
>>568815548Of all the people to draw daughters of, Lily and Lucia? Who looks at Lily and Lucia and goes "yay my favorite characters"
>>568865183Lucia was the backbone for my party in Part 2's boss fights, but I still wouldn't ship her with anyone.
>>568865183He is drawing kids for the members of factions. He already did the Archangels, Ancestors, and 4HKs, so now it's the Alliance of Wisdom's turn.On that note, any girl can be someone's waifu. Even something as horrifying as Echidna or Ilias' extinction engine has someone masturbating to them.
>>568865183I like Lucia... without the tentacles. I guess a few tentacles would be fine, but the huge flesh pods make her look awkward. It must suck walking around like that.
>>568865792>I like Lucia... without the tentaclesi totally got spooked when I saw that they both had the tentacle stuff. Personally is a huge turn off, I was 100% ready to declare Lucia top 10, but i mean she's alright despite it.
>>568866067They both lose the tentacles after they get their power ups in the Chaos Route. The issue of course is you might be disappointed that Lucia stops showing off her giant knockers.
>>568866067>>568866403She's too curt for me. Her feelings aren't in it.
>>568866719She is a candidate for a spot in the Alliance of Wisdom. She is far too smart, so she must deal with stupid people all the time.
I wish we could of seen more of Sonya and Hild's sisters the plot kinda leaves them behind once one of them becomes power gapped and the other one only serves as a replacement unitfor plot purposes
In Paradox is there any item or ability that leaves enemies at 1hp? I remember it used to be that if you put the difficulty on very easy enemies would take consistent damage each turn so you could see Temptation scene. But it doesn't seem like that works anymore, and my Luka is so strong he can just one shot most enemies so they can never get the chance to use temptation.
>>568876396there's ultimate perfume but you have to cheat it in i think (item ID for it is 1741) makes it so any damage dealt to a foe triggers temptation
>>568877257Fuck, I've never messed with the cheat engine before.
>>568878185i didn't use cheat engine for it but you can just use the cheese (should be included in the tiny improvements patcher iirc)
>>568876396Gravity or status effects can deal percentage damage. Failing that there's a sorcery skill that deals a fixed amount of 1000 damage.
is there any point to temptation? like whose gonna be dumb enough to actually say yes? I wonder if Koron has it she does not seem to view sex as anything
>>568879636Unfortunately Gravity doesn't work on boss enemies and dealing 1000 damage per cast will take a long, long time to get most bosses down to 20% even assuming they can't heal.
>>568879682I originally thought they would be a good way of just letting Luka take damage during a long cutscene, while the rest of the party wails on the enemy.They are pretty useless, no different from just giving up, but now with a ton of missing hentai scenes in Part 3, they are the only ways to see these CGs.
>>568880131You should be able to lower your damage by stripping off, equipping weaker or even no gear and unequipping skills, if 1000 is too little then stripping off even postgame Luka should be enough. Either that or you use your army of random recruits to scale yourself to random encounters.
>>568881706Luka still does a billion damage totally naked, which is enough to one shot all part 1 and part 2 bosses and even some part 3 bosses. And moving characters around and equipment is too much of a hassle just to try and check out scenes.
>>568879682>like whose gonna be dumb enough to actually say yes?A good human boy
>>568842786Dagda and nuwa want total god and demon deathhere their quoteThe inescapable truth under all life's lies is that this universe... Is worthless. Gods, demons, humans, buddhas, pretas... I will wipe everything from existence.""The humans are being played like chess pieces at the mercy of greater beings. Wake up and smell the chaos, kid. This is the true nature of gods and demons. Human oppression is the only thing that interests them.""You've got a lot of work ahead of you, kid... And you're going to learn firsthand just how pathetic gods, demons, and humans are. Remember one thing, my Godslayer: You have no choice but to obey me."
>>568879682>is there any point to temptation? like whose gonna be dumb enough to actually say yes?
>>568888587Alma will set aside her violence
Man, how did the poll go from 30 voters over 4 days to 100 in the past 2 days?
>>568865183>Of all the people to draw daughters of, Lily and Lucia? What >>568865667said. Guy committed to groups, and is including Lucia and Lily as Seekers of truth. Which means, we should also get Laplace.
>>568897083where there's a will there's a way
>>568890952Cute, if a little odd.>>568899350sUPer CUtE!
>You mean you raped us real rapists, so that you could... pretend to be one!?>Oh, I'm real! Real enough to rape you! And I did it without your oh so special Critical Ecstasy. I'll give them rape. I'll give them the best rape anyone's ever seen! And when I'm old and I've had my fun, I'll sell my inventions so that everyone can rape. Everyone can be rapist! And when everyone's rapist... no one will be.
>>568907562You reminded me there is a few times in paradox where humans are clearly playing up the monster girls rape fetishes despite obviously being into it.
>>568907562>Everyone can be rapist! And when everyone's rapist... no one will be.Shit fatlice would say
>>568909610I don't think so.She was a big bully who liked to pick on weakling, and losing the rapist/rapey dynamic would clash with her, only le strunk rule philosophy. Ilias agreed, and thought she was cool.
>>568909903>le strunk rule philosophy>proceeds to team up with her rival to kill her daughter who embodies this philosophy mostwhat did fatlice mean by this
>>568909903I thought she became a neet after killing Koron
>>568910374Well, it's not like it was the first time.Fat snake and biggest elf had to team up to stop Galactus and Cthulhu. They were not the strongest then, and they aren't the strongest now.
Please do not bot votes.
>>568911067And what's wrong with bot votes!? Huh!?
>>568910428She did, but she didn't abandon the philosophy immediately after sending her favorite daughter to the Shadow Realm. She made Hiruko under the same pretense of strength being the only thing that matters, and flipped out even harder after how much of a failure the hungry hungry hippo turned out to be.Fat Alice was a horrible person, like a really horrible person.
>>568911067>Chrome and Shirome spike upbetter check if the voters are legally dead or not
>>568911067Faggots share polls in discords with hundreds if not thousands of people, and this is the result.
>>568911351Hiruko is cute and more beloved than any of the 7A, so it's all good.
>>568911067I realized this when my wife, Doppel, started to lose
>>568896483Slugs will be forced to be my love slaves under threat of just going back home
Do I need to worry about team comps in part 1 and 2 or can I just ride Lime until shit starts to fall apartI'm not shooting myself in the foot by not using Reina, right? She seems like the only notable ch1 unit so far
>>568915186Are you playing Paradox?If not, don't worry. If yes, don't worry too much.
>>568865792Yeah I really like human LuciaHybrid transformation Lucia looks gross though
>>568915186Unless you're on paradox difficulty you don't really have to worry about who you're using, below that it's more about what jobs you have and even then there's a bit of freedom.
>>568915186Just set it to very easy and the game is fun.
>>568915741Does Lucia and Lily have human overworld sprites? They obviously have human art, but I think TrTr gave them two separate chibis sprites, with the human one only lasting until you finally choose to side with in their quest.Kind of odd that we separate these versions, since worm summoners are just humans, but with a DE spawn nest in their bodies.
>>568897556Yeah but the guy cucked us out of hiruko so we dont know if he'll skimp out on laplace somehow lol.
>>568859034Its hotter if it is so i headcanon that it still is.The mass produced angels would still have some form of ilias' light in them.
>>568912057Indeed!
What monsters do you think give the best hugs?Angels and harpies have wing hugsSlimes are softBeast girls have fluffy tailsSuccubi and plants probably can use pheromones to make you feel betterSpider wrap you in soft silkLamia wrap their long tails around youToo many good options.
>>568928271>What MONSTERS do you think give the best hugs?>Angels have wing hugs
>>568929127>picrelsir this is a gorilla
>>568928271
>>568928271>Too many good options.True, but some girls are clearly better at it than the others!
>>568929127Angels aren't monsters but we always count them when listing monster girls because it's just not the same without them.
>>568929463Anon's punishment is one (1) cumshot.>>568930783Anon's reward is one (1) cumshot.
I've found a way to disarm those monster traps in dungeons
>>568931280>posts the best angelAnon's reward is (1) Respect
>>568931453Who's the monster now..?
>>568934323The Red Slime in front of us.You know what they say about Red Slimes right?
>>568929127She commissioned self-insert porn of me!
>>568937853She's a pinkie anon
Who would you consider guarantees to get ring scene additions in the chaos route update?
>>568940376Lilith.AW Eden got one, so her MW counterpart should get one as well.This doesn't mean the other Lilith sisters, and the other Seraphs will get one. Though, they do have a very good shot, since they are prominent characters in Part 3.
>>568941587>so her MW counterpart should get one as well.You'll never believe this
>>568942380I meant her MW rival, which is Lilith.I didn't mean MW Eden, since she already got it.
>>568941587if fucking Alice's mom and Black Alice's sister get ring scenes and not the actual Seraphs and Lilith trio it would be indescribably retarded
>>568943391I think one of the big issues that TrTr probably found himself in with these wedding rings, is the wedding gifts the girls give you.He is probably having trouble trying to think of more of them, especially since the last update was really cookie cutter. The Lilith Sisters giving you the same thing would be a cop out.
>>568883042Sauce?
>>568912057>>568927619In all fairness Hiruko is also the only one of the ancestors who openly criticizes her mother and calls out her past actions and gets genuinely angry with her at points. For extremely justifiable reasons.I honestly am impressed at how much she 180s herself in the final route and goes from an irredeemable schizophrenic and nightmarishly sadistic monster to a schizophrenic with hanger issues driven to madness by her condition and her desperate search for the truth of her origins; understanding something's REALLY wrong with her in her moments of lucidity and trying to minimize any possible collateral damage when she kills the universe-devouring abomination before suddenly getting a case of the I'm Hungry's again and attempting to eat her mom in the pocket castle.Even if her desire for a "cure" to her condition is pretty clearly for her own personal reasons and not out of any altruistic or selfless motivation, there's not even anything wrong with that, that's entirely justified given her circumstances and she freely admits that herself anyway. She just wants the pain to stop and to feel satisfied after eating something for once in her life, and not have the D.I. genes constantly screaming at her to kill and eat everything 24/7/365. It's really not a surprise she exploded in popularity so much she's the perfect mix of funny idiot/psychopath/introspective loner.>>568943853He should've never given some kind of tangential gameplay component to it.Both specifically because of this problem (it makes it far easier to add the idea when all you need to think about is the girls themselves) and because it subverts the point of the choice to begin with since people will just ignore the intention and simply choose who they think has the most meta/powerful gift instead.
>>568915186Replace characters as you see fit, you'll probably do most of your party mix-and-matching starting part 2 rather than part 1
>>568947738Hiruko will never hate her mother no matter what, now Lucifina and Micaela...
>>568947243Succubus in Wonderland, and neither the first nor last time she's been in one of 62studio's games
>>568947738indeed, hiruko being like that is just eternal torture
>>568949094>Hiruko will never hate her mother no matter what, now Lucifina and Micaela...
>>568949094Because fat alice lets them do what they want, she's the 'fun' mom
>>568928271If only there was a cute sheep girl who wasn't an alcoholic...
>>568952054If she let her kids go on binges during pre-GMW era, maybe fuck a few guys, maybe destroy a human city here and there as stress relief, then they would have been happy. Forcing them to stay in Heaven because you are super controlling is not a good way to parent.
>>568952180Ilias is a momFat Alice is the "fun" wine aunt who is too much of a mess to be allowed to raise anything with more responsibility than a housecatAnd to be fair this even applies to the manner of their childrens' existencesIlias made children from herselfFat Alice "adopted" children by playing mad scientist on other creatures
>>568949234Thanks anon. Any reason why this and more mgg aren't listed in the pastebin? Or is it an unspoken rule to be mostly mgq?
>>568952054>>568952651>Ilias is a momYeah a shit one.Hilarious how subilias is somehow even worse than regular one, worst mother in existence.
>>568952651Yeah that's what I was getting at, but more like a tiger mom and a fun mom. MGQ is actually a story about how single mothers make horrible parents and every monster that had a dad was way better.
>>568949094>b-but-Completely irrelevant and you know this, don't try to derail it into some kind of aw/mw argument. Hiruko is the only one who displays any hostility to her mother and argues with her, and carries some resentment. That doesn't mean she's just going to backstab her randomly (that's something fatlice would do though). My point is she's the only one of her children who has a functioning brain, because her mother is a horrendous parent and deserves to be criticized for her behavior.>>568952651I feel it's worth mentioning that even putting aside how Eden and the angels (and the Chans) love Ilias: even the original Micaela from the original world, in spite of everything, still loved her mother, and laments to Luka that 'transient beings' like her or him couldn't fathom her loneliness, and how she had no way to help Ilias and things ultimately had to end this way. She only opposes Ilias once she becomes a threat to the world due to her declining sanity, and views the affair in a tragic light, which is how it would play out if the roles were reversed and one of the Ancestors was having to help stop Alice I from destroying the planet.The only version of Micaela who says she wanted to openly attack a version of her mother (not even her actual one, because singularity ilias dies and doesn't come back) is the version who fuses with the MW version of herself, becomes mindbroken, and then absorbs Lucifina's soul to the point of becoming irreversably corrupted by Lucifina and falling in the process.Which is because Lucifina is completely unhinged and hypocritical psychopath who's very unsympathetic.And the AW version even worse, having sent doppels down to destroy villages and mass murder random human civilians just out of spite despite knowing full well AW!Ilias doesn't actually care. And then starts blaming the original Ilias for things she never even considered doing. Even threatens to torture Lucifina-Chan at one point.
>>568952180I guess pisslias would be the kind of mother to actually beat up her children to near death because they didn't clean up their room.
>>568953597>My point is she's the only one of her children who has a functioning brainShe's nowhere near close to Tamamo and Minagi though.
>>568953856One of them wastes it on being a total murder slut bitch to everyone and one of them wastes it on a gooncave that she is never seen leaving except to get killed that one time
>>568953978>One of them wastes it on being a total murder slut bitch to everyoneBut enough about Gabriela
>>568953856The dialogue between Minagi and Raphaela seems to imply something deeper to the Ancestor's ironclad loyalty to their mother. Maybe their worship of her is down to the genetic level, or more insidious, mind manipulation, since we know Alice 1st tampered with their memory after her late term abortion.
>>568954826Or maybe it's because she's not a controlling stupid shit like llias.
but who's the best monster girl?
>>568955513Objectively speaking foxes.
>>568955513Objectively speaking, Harpies.
>>568955116Having a hands off approach don't automatically win you favors with your kids. Especially if they think their is a contest to win your affection, all while you just don't give any praise or lesson.
>>568955513i like dragon girls
>>568956376>Having a hands off approach don't automatically win you favors with your kidsApparently it does.
>>568955752>>568955973>>568956464all good choices!
>>568955513Objectively speaking, none of them. Seek salvation.
>>568955116>immediately resorts to luring her firstborn child out in order to betray and murder her with zero explanation after said child did everything fatlice told her too do and believed everything fatlice told her to believe>blames the child and calls her a heartless sociopath who has no understanding of love, when said child's actions were motivated SOLELY by love and a desire to be loved and make her proud>alternate universe version of said child literally had to explain to her how the power of friendship is awesome>realizes she failed>take responsibility?>no>instead scrubs said child from the face of the earth, erases all evidence of her existence, and completely rewrites and blocks out all the memories her other children had>"you're on your own">leaves>realizes she feels terrible>take responsibility?>no>make a replacement goldfish out of interdimensional lovecraft sludge>she's an unstable abomination in constant pain>take responsibility?>no>"you're on your own">leaves>abominaton goes crazy and devours an entire country's population>take responsibility?>no>"i'd feel bad">situation deteriorates>Her sister, now livid over the lack of returned calls and constant spiting of attempts to reconnect with the only person she viewed as a friend, is on the verge of going insane>take responsibility?>no>"don't make me wag my finger at you">sister goes insane>declares war>threatens MAD if no surrender>'you wouldn't really do it'>MAD's>planet is now a shithole>take responsibility?>no>"eh, fuck it">"i never liked the ocean anyway">back to neet cave>one of her children tells on the other about the garden>realizes that if nothing is done not only will said kingdom be in a terrible situation, but her daughter will most likely end up miserable and alone>take responsibility?>no>"don't make me say i told you so">garden goes very poorly>everyone hates her>"i told you so"She is, quite literally, the worst kind of person.
>>568955513dark elf fencer, of course
>>568940376Bandits, Queens and Meia.
>>568955513The Rule 63 Monstergirl version of (Youi).
>>568958342You know what to do
>>568958812So basically turning your snek wife into meaty onion rings?
>>568958992I rather don't like the way you said that. I would never a snake
>>568958342That's a lot of cope words but >>568949094 >>568953037
>>568958992>snake wifeGross. Absolutely disgusting. This is a No Snake Zone and we do not accept nasty snake wives around here.
>>568959245See >>568953597
>>568959514piss stained hands made this post
>>568958325My Ilias would never!
>>568959752Did you miss the original point of this? You can see here >>568909903 even a retard like llias thought Fat Alice philosophy was good.
>>568959968Those are angels.
>>568960067Correct only monsters can be angels, winged elves are h*mangirl coded
>>568959968One of my top 3 moments in Paradox.
>>568960258If Ilias says it's an angel, it's an angel. Anything else is the babbling of a sinner
>>568960354Sorry can't hear you over that Sextuple Giga
>>568958992What if my lazy waifu abandons everything, including her own snakeyness, to hide from the terrible parenting she brought to the world? How can I make delicious onion rings now?
>>568958557Meia is already married...unless you want her to have 2 husbands?
>>568958557>queensmost are literal who irrelevant compared to 6As and 7AAs
>>568959968And we all remember that Alice cherished her Fox and Slime just as muc... oh.
>>568953597I wondered a bit about Micaela's ring dialogue and it's emphasis on cheating, but I just realized Lucifina is in there, and a major plot point of Part 3 is the fact that her husband ran off to be with the AW version of her, who now refuses to merge.Is Micaela herself just Saja-ishly dry?
>>568961034Even moreso actually, by keeping them safe back at home.
>>568961034Like mother, like daughter
>>568960035I'm not talking about alice's strengthtard philosophy (that only Koron seemed to actually embody, since she has zero double standards or underhandedness about it at all).I'm talking about her terrible behavior in general. She did not make Hiruko under the strengthtism mindset, she just made her to fill the void left behind by Koron, and then ditched her without really thinking about the consequences of that because nothing is going to replace your firstborn daughter nor make you feel better about stabbing her in the back and seeing her give a "mother, why?" before keeling over.Ilias's reasons for going insane and then declaring war are very personal and petty and amount to feeling slighted and betrayed by the only individual she ever viewed as a friend and equal, because she viewed it as their responsibility to guide and help others, but Alice just told her to pound sand and did nothing until Ilias had already gone crazy, at which point she just did what she did with Koron again ("oops, oh well time to kill her I guess") and the Ilias that was left behind turned into a neurotic paranoid mess obsessed with control and desperate to never feel abandoned or unwanted again, as that's the root of the original's god complex.>>568961025>most aresignificantly more popular and loved than any of the ancestors or archangels could ever hope to be, actually.Funny that.
>>568961025Alice 9th anon.She got a ring by simple pity love from the fanbase. You think someone who has a big following like Lucretia won't be able to get a ring because of something as irrelevant as plot relevancy? Cassandra and Emily would probably get a ring before any of those jokers too, just by how much Setouchi loves them.
>>568961284>I'm not talking about alice's strengthtard philosophythen stop changing the subject since that was the original point>She did not make Hiruko under the strengthtism mindsetshe did, that's why she used calamity dna
>>568961284The only relevant queens are Harpy, Demon Cow and Alra
>>568961284Fat Alice made it very clear that Hiruko was made too be strong first, everything else last. She very much still believed in strunkism after she put a sword in Koron's chest. Her daughters, and monsters in general, follow the philosophy. How the strong should rule was up to them, but being at the top because of overwhelming power was always the main criteria of a leader.
>>568958325Not from you that's for sure
>>568961023Meia's marriage is just a total joke at this point. Luka should at least have the option to use the ring on the one person who definitely can't be trusted with it.That said, polyandrous marriage is hot and it's never pandered to.
>>568930228This is why foxes always win...
>>568958812>>568958992Why does monster girls being food only ever come up with minotaurs?
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Old thread, cold....
>>568961025Luka hates most of these characters and most of them spent all of their time in the chaos route just huddling around their creators' corpses. As much as I might want to ring the plants, I know Luka wouldn't ever go for it.
>>568961779her primary motivation was replacing Koron>changing the subjectThat's you not me, all I started off with was that Hiruko was the only one who was actually willing to criticize her mother. Are you so autistic that you can't handle the flow of a conversation going from point a to point b? Or are you offended that I commented on something and it didn't fit your preconceived idea of what I should have been talking about? Welcome to how conversations work. Holy shit, grow the fuck up. I didn't comment on the "original point" because I didn't feel like I needed to and you aren't even talking about it yourself, all you've done is try to white knight for a fat snake and deflect any criticism of her with to "b-but what about ilias?", you're not even talking about the thing you are trying to claim is the "original point". Color me shocked that an alipheese simp is a retard. Who would've guessed.
>>568963810if you want to go even further back the original point was still about rape and rule of STRso once again you changed the subject>her primary motivation was replacing Koronthen she wouldn't have used calamity dna
>>568963721That's what the final route is for
>>568964061That, and I don't think most of the 6/7A are even interested.
I think Koron being stronger than llias and Fat Alice themselves is a plothole.
>>568964218neither are most of the queens or alice's mom by that metric until suddenly she was
>>568964664Koron only got stronger because she's spent centuries traveling between worlds wiping everyone out and master Holy/Dark Chaos attacks. Meanwhile Fat Alice and Stupid Ilias have just been hanging around at home being lazy.
>>568964664Why? She was Fat Alice's greatest creation, using genetic material that you can no longer find on the planet, while having the autistic drive to keep getting stronger.
>>568965038Even with Chaos llias FULLY mastering holy/dark fusion in Paradox she's probably weaker than Koron, so bullshit.
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>>568965205She didn't fully master the fusion.She was losing control, and being taken over by it.
>>568964876Queens, maybe.Alice XV just likes the idea of falling in love and getting married. Luka is just a bachelor she knows.
>>568964058(YOU) changed the subject.I was just talking about Hiruko, and made an aside comment.And I didn't care that you did and just engaged with what you had to say, until you started spazzing out and trying to act like some kind of retarded purityfag, which I'm forced to assume is either crippling autism or you just having no actual counterargument for anything I said and resorted to bitching that I responded to (you) trying to make this about a parenting competition between her and Ilias in the first place.Because this is all completely irrelevant to what (you) claimed was the "original point" as you claimed it.Which is that Alipheese is a failure, and a terrible person, who will refuse to intervene and help others or inact any sort of change, not even to the benefit of her own children, because she refuses to take any sort of responsibility for anything that she does or causes, and would rather just feel good about herself for "not" doing anything. She betrays her own ideals and words constantly, before and after strengthtism, and would rather demonize Koron than accept what she was really like so she can feel less guilty about what she did. The incident with her strengthtism is simply the greatest showcase of just how awful she actually is. She didn't even do anything for Kanon despite thinking the garden was wrong and believing that it would turn out poorly for Kanon, and openly calling her a "problem child", because then she'd have to be the bad guy for telling her shortbus daughter that eating people makes them hate you.>why did retard do something retardedshe and Ilias can't help themselves when it comes to experimental tism.
>>568965343The game said it was fully mastered
>>568965521anon learn to follow a conversation>>568907562>>568909610>>568909903
>>568965769I did, can you?Or are you so autistic that you can't handle the flow of a conversation? Maybe try not to micromanage things, and don't change the subject if you don't like the direction the subject you brought up goes.
>>568966305changing the subject is not "handling the flow of a conversation"it was specifically about rape and STR
>>568967403Then why did you change the subject.Or am I not allowed to respond to >>568949094 because you didn't consent and it hurt your feelings.
