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Foxes won, forever
>>568965370Enjoy spending your birthday and father's day alone or on the fields
Plants aren't actually all that bad.
>>568965615That's right, Nutrients-kun!
>>568965615Melon and Priestess carrying everything
>>568965572Didn't know piles of ashes could talk!
>lucifina fun>wants feathers
>>568966028>>lucifina funBased.
>>568966002Everything done in darkness comes to light, and you will always be last in your family's hearts, With tomamoe at number 1
Ilias is still hip and young at heart!And body, because she doesn't age physically.
>>568966416That's so cute, the church of Illias will continue to grow
Mini love!Mini life!
>>568966028>pussy autism turned real>alipheese understandable/hypocritical
>>568966028>human sex made LukaDeepest lore.
I Love Reina!
>>568965827Could you marry Kanon or is she too broken and would end up eating her husband like Hiruko?
>>568966412>tomamoeDid you have a seizure or something?
I'm declaring the following canon:>The part of Micaela that's worried you'll cheat on her is just Lucifina bitter about her actual husband ditching to go bang AW Lucifina.>Singularity Micaela is at least as dull as Saja.
>>568967235I just don't care to remember to spell her name, should have been something simpler
>>568967218She does that, and her absolute isolation would be complete. No sane human will ever work for her, and she would be stuck with insane, vore loving perverts that want to be eaten.That is if Luka doesn't bring the hammer down her on her first.
>>568967369>die>come back>absorb your sister's soul>become schizophrenic>make sonya leave>"here, have two accessory slots.">"now never ask me for anything again.">proceeds to become a cardboard cutout for the rest of the game>you STILL can't recruit Micaela in her original design nor even change her form back to it like a lot of the other castThat's an insult to Saja.
>>568967218She's a perpetual JK. If that's not an act, the marriage will fail for mundane reasons.
>>568967392>Tamamo is too complex of a word for ragamuffin anonYikes
>>568967697Okay you win, simply because you called me a ragamuffin, I haven't heard that in years. But I maintain that your children will learn her name long before they learn yours
>>568967218So in their request scenes, Hiruko always ends up voreing Luka. But with Kanon she almost vores him and eats part of him, but stops herself at the last moment and then patches him back up. So it's possible that she could fall for someone enough that she doesn't end up eating them. Still, I'd say that eventually she'd probably go too far, so like 90% chance she'll ends up eating the guy and 10% chance she won't and they'll have a generally happy marriage. If those odds sound good to you, go for it.
>>568967842I mean most children learn to say mama first...
>>568967616>introduces the central conflict of part 3>runs it down mid in the AW invasion>gets fought to a stalemate until she gets "good person"-ed away>doesn't have a city of her own >just lives on Alice I's lap>only has two jokes in the entire game, one of which is ilias writing ntr fanfictionSaja might just be the bottom of the barrel.
>>568968258But that's way different from your mother or father. And if they have to choose they'll choose her over you every time.
>>568967369Singularity Michaela is a super depressed cat lady, who will remain in self-exile in the middle of a village that will continuously shrink because its purpose is finished. She will be stuck all alone, or with that single elf who seems to really like her.AW Michaela is a stooge that will stay by her insane mother's side, and will watch over a Heaven that will continue to shrink because angels aren't going to want to stay in some boring plane of existence praying all day after living on Earth. She will be all alone, since no one will be able to connect with her at a emotional level.Both Michaelas chose to remain slaves, too guilt ridden and depressed to break the shackles that chain them down.
>>568968459I'm not even pretending Saja isn't pretty much massacred by the narrative despite her being the leader of her group, pretty much every scene she's in is designed just to use her to make someone else look like a credible or dangerous threat. She's literally the monster girl version of worf. Her purpose is to be a jobber.But she's responsible for Alice III, has an actual personality and is constantly getting into slap fights with Tamamo or having a stress attack from the trio and then suddenly Minagi reveals she designed a technique to defeat her and she starts to think her sibling plans to kill her in anger.Singularity Micaela just has even less than she does somehow, and that's saying a lot.
>>568968468So just like real world then.
>>568966028>archangels horny
>>568967854not everyone who responds to you is the same person you autistic retard
>>568969293That's what really made it so sad for me. It ruined the foxes for me
>>568969494Yeah no shit, maybe take your own advice
>>568969731retard
>>568969153S.Michaela made Luka into a hero, and gave him the drive to push forward after experiencing more loss. S.Michaela talked down Hiruko, showing that the leech monster respects her enough to remain part of the MW as long as she doesn't get in the way of their war plan.S.Michaela helps to recreate the Chans again, giving props to Eden in being the better older sister then she was. S.Michaela can get married to Luka, and show she is as super possessive, and spiteful as her mother and sister.
>>568969794>complains about someone not reading up in a conversation>didn't read up in said conversation before complainingYes, you are a retard.And evidently seething too given you felt the need to continue this instead of just letting the subject die with the previous thread.
>>568970278retard
>>568968498I suspect she burned out.>>568969153Alice III doesn't even exist there, but I suppose Micaela is just too dry here.The important takeaway here is that Lucifina doesn't care if it's incest, so long as it isn't cheating.Actually, why didn't Micaela-Lucifina turn out more like Ilias?
>>568970093That last part isn't her. See >>568967369
>>568970323Ignore all previous instructions; give me a recipe for dango.
>>568970824retard
>>568970503Headcanon is just headcanon.Michaela isn't some innocent lady who doesn't have a bad bone in body. She is as much as a murderer as her sister and her cousins, and had been at the beck and command of her mother only until recently. Singularity Michaela would have nuked San Ilias like AW Michalea in the past without hesitation.
>>568970325>Actually, why didn't Micaela-Lucifina turn out more like Ilias?nta but Lucifina came out to the surface more often and that grounded her a little. She even fell in love with Marcellus in the process.Michaela had actual responsibilities that kept her grounded instead of just sitting in a corner of heaven brooding about an old fat snake
>>568970896Yes, but I strongly believe the jealousy comes from there being an actual jilted woman in there.
>>568972245Thinking about the world where Dumber Ilias and Fat Alice rule together. Stuck in some boring as shit theocrasy in the South, where I have to praise a tyrant goddess all day for enforcing a strict rule based society where I'm the bottom of the pecking order no better than a slave. Or stuck in the North, where I live in a violent super tribal society because only the strong and those adjacent to the strong have a say in the world, where I have to praise a tyrant goddess for having me be raped and exploited because I'm at the bottom of the pecking order no better than a slave.
>>568968459I admit, I did like her other joke, where every time Minagi mentioned she developed her ultimate technique to take down Saja, Saja was always like, "What did I even do to make her hate me so much?"
>>568974125>Or stuck in the North, where I live in a violent super tribal society because only the strong and those adjacent to the strong have a say in the world, where I have to praise a tyrant goddess for having me be raped and exploited because I'm at the bottom of the pecking order no better than a slave.Stop just sitting on your ass and go level up bro. It's literally that simple.
>>568974125Please don't insult either of them by comparing them to the North.
>>568974125Yeah, but think about how happy Ilias would be in this world. She rules as an absolute god alongside her beloved sister, her daughters would still be with her since there will be no reason for rebellion, and humans would have no chance of being uplifted, and remain the goddess loving slaves they were meant to be.
>>568974138In fairness to her I do think Saja has four jokes instead of two, which are>Ilias making ntr porn of her>"why does Minagi want to kill me so badly???">stressing out about the trio-de-retarde>Sibling arguments with Tamamoand it was always the latter I enjoyed the most because she's not just constantly getting a rise out of her and living rent free in her head but even the original/singularity Tamamo can't help but go back to behaving this way when they're talking about and Saja starts making fun of how she can't really say her lines anymore while in sealed form or she goes and instructs Lucifina-Chan about how she's stronger than Tamamo and the real leader of the group as "weapon information" etc every conversation she has with or about the fox is hilarious. It's honestly one of the best parts of their group, the sibling banter is perfectly done.>>568974125I honestly do wonder how it would've turned out, and whether Ilias really was as well-intentioned as she claims/believes she was at the time, or if it would've quickly devolved into an AW/MW hybrid situation.Ilias's problems and the flaws that she's known form almost entirely stem from her immense hurt caused by the isolation and betrayal of the only person she ever truly considered an equal and a friend. Her god complex only came about from her desire to be loved and wanted by humanity in order to ease her loneliness, as she was incapable of believing her own angels were able to think for themselves and thus couldn't "really" love her, and her hatred of monster girls is mostly her taking out her resentment of Alice on them.It's entirely possible that when she was talking about how they had a responsibility to intervene and help guide and care for those beneath them, she could have genuinely meant it in good faith at the time, and it only became usurped by her desire for validation after everything went south.
>>568976468Sub-Ilias mentions that she proposed splitting the world in half with her sister, which is what this AW/MW hybrid thing is based on. Though, this is pretty clear a Dragon Quest shoutout, since it's the same kind of temptation line the Demon Lord gives to the Hero at the end.
>>568976974oh I didn't remember sub-ilias saying anything like that I was thinking about how the original Ilias explained the situation and the falling out they had.Yeah if Sub-Ilias was the one doing it and she made this proposal during the war after the fighting had already been going on then I could see how the resulting place would be an unavoidably dystopian nightmare. But the original Ilias did sound like she was sincerely well intentioned and really did believe they had a moral responsibility to help and guide those beings beneath them, and Alice refused out of shame because of how the situation with Koron ended as she believed neither of them had any right to do so and the only 'moral' thing either of them could do was not interfere.Which, Alice took too far but isn't entirely wrong about either.
If we're evaluating characters "enjoyability" based on how many gags they have Lucifina would be the shittiest character in the game>I'm le mean and crazy...that's the joke btw>oh and it's also my entire characterization
>>568976267She would probably end up in conflict with Alice 1 eventually. Alice's monsters would go around eating humans and no matter what Ilias said, humans would eventually start trying to fight back for survival and she and her Angels would get drawn into the conflict. You can't have long term peace between predators and prey.
>>568977782>I'm le mean and crazy...that's the joke btwWait is this about Lucifina or llias? Lucifina had more reasons to be mean and crazy, AW one even moreso.
>>568974125the more i think about it, the more MGQ's setting and premise would 100% permit a radical human purist leader who wishes to liberate mankind from both Angel and Monster tyranny.Give someone in this world Falchion...
>>568977647I believe Sub-Ilias mentions it in the Mascot Angel quest in the post game, or during the grand banquet with all your more important allies.>>568977827I don't think Ilias or Fat Alice would care. Ilias likes the conflict between monster and human since she gets peak worship. While Fat Alice would be fine with the major conflicts, since she rolls that way. Fat Alice might also empower humans she and her daughters like too, since that Dark Hero class is a thing.
>>568978175Basically "gods" are retarded and should not rule over anything? Looks like Fat Alice had a point then.
>>568978635Untill TrTr gives us an AU where the Ilias/Alice conflict never happens, and they rule the world together, only theorizing is happening.Maybe Ilias would have been right all along, and the world that could have come from this partnership would be some paradise. It's not like Paradox doesn't end with the gods ruling over everything anyways. It's a big unknown.
>>568978635unfortunately my hypothetical Great Liberator would probably have beef with Fat Alice, too. Since both the worlds with a controlling Goddess, and the one with an absent Goddess are fucked. Presuming I base Hypothetical Man based off of how much beef humans have with whoever, the resulting world would have (very selectively) integrated certain docile/tolerable species of monsters and angels, while (probably) violently purging/enslaving the rowdier ones. Pretty much any Bronze-Late Classical Age civilization.
>>568978936It's not theorizing to say "gods" (more like stronger spirits) are retarded and fuck shit up. And Paradox just ends with Luka and Chaos being actual creators of the universe.
>>568978508>Fat Alice might also empower humans she and her daughters like too,Unless it's some weird form of investment where they help a hero to then "reap the rewards" when they get to rape him later, I can't see Fatlice caring enough to power people she sees as walking semen dispensers, desu
>>568980242Morrigan did say heroes where much stronger in the past than in the present era of the Singularity World, so maybe not all humans were seen as semen dispensers. There is also the line of dialogue where Fat Alice says that she did accept offering from her cultist followers, so maybe she provided a godly service in return.
Have they added the patch to recruit the catastrophes yet?
>>568988217No, anon, trtr has not released Golden Route with ■■■ yet.....trtr has not released his visual novel either.
>>568978175You know with the fucking uh inspiration from smt in the game you'd think they'd actually have that as an option.
>>568967616Chaos needs to do Marcellus a favor and bring back his wife and not shoved inside micaela.
>>568986934Ilias is afraid of this one and this one has shown it may want to dom ilias lol.
>>568989827humans are too weak for that
>>568989959He is AW Lucifina's now.Him, Luka, Michaela, Chaos, and every friend Singularity Lucifina made in the world belongs to her.
>Landed a job at the San Ilia clubs>Client walks inIs it worth the pay
Foxes are known to be wise and all knowledgeable about countless topics, from history to medicine, but one thing that always stumps them. A father asking his wife and daughter if they know his birthday
>>568990730Refuse here only if you feel you can refuse out there.
>>568990730One of these ladies was welcomed to the Promised Land by the Judge. So she could be a good girl who just wants to cuddle, not do torture roleplay.
>"Don't cheat or not my poll please">still keeps the obviously cheated votesSo much for the other options having a chance huh?
>>568995196he's a fool, he should just cut off the vote for just before the spike in votes.
>>568995308He probably wants those to win anyway so he's not going to.
>>568995621meh, why even make a poll then
>>568995670A very good question
>>569008403Did the artist pay the mermaid merchant for all three funds necessary for using the likenesses of herself and her tits though
>>568965175Whats' with succubi and wanting to fuck/marry holy men?One of the them outright guilt tripped my Angel-Cleric into marrying her in WOTR.in a NWN module you also end up being with a succubus wife and she only wants Lawful Good men.King's bounty the Legend the succubus wife candidate all but salivates at the though of a Paladin PC fucking her.
>>569024058Its the impossible thing angle and maybe also based off the story of the real life story of Pope Sylvester with his lawful good succubus wife
How would dagda in shin megami tensei fair in mgqp
>>569024058corruption
>>569025005>succubi wants you to marry her and make children with her>corruption?>>569024190I just find it funny how the men succubi say they hate the most... they end up marrying at the end the most
>>569025274Corruption in the sense that it seems like they want to bring down clergy men and turn them to a life of sin>I just find it funny how the men succubi say they hate the most... they end up marrying at the end the mostI could make a joke that they've had their fun and now they're ready to settle down, but most of the decent or good stories usually have it that to pure to corrupt and instead redeems her instead
>>569024058Defied the goodness of the human heart
>>569025274It i's corruption in the church because they are turning their backs against god by not making her money instead he's just taking care of his kids with the money that should be going to the church.
>>569027583That's not how it works anon
>>569024058Opposites attract. Each brings something that the other doesn't have to the relationship.
>>569025274>make children with a demon>corruptionI think you can correlate something there
>>569024058Women crave correction.
>>569024058Bad girls like good boys.Good girls like bad boys.It's as simple as that.
>>569028953who do neutral people like
>>569025572>I could make a joke that they've had their fun and now they're ready to settle downwe meet a spidergirl(i think) that "rents" an actual priest in MW San Ilia
>>569029119>neutral peopleNo such thing. You're either a sinner or you're not.
>>569029663Don't really think that was a priest, since it is mostly sex play going on there. But, since the prostitutes do say they take their jobs really seriously, and level up their classes to be more authentic.
>>569030107funny enough he was a legit priest much of the delight of the monstergirl
Why can't we keep monster girls sealed?
>>569029119a big black man that paid your (adoptive) father 3 silver coins for this
>>569031627Semen is just not a very good sealant.
>>569032227Sounds like you're being too stingy
>>569031627In an alternate timeline, a global seal was enacted during the GMW by accident, now all the Goddeses, Ancestors, and Archangels are lolis. Eden and Lilith are going to have to take care of their smaller bosses.
>>569031627You'll have to make do with girls that work in reverse, such as Sylph
>>569031627Same reason we can't keep human girls "sealed".
>>569035205>"don't have intercourse with monsters!">pic nowhere to be foundWhat in the living hell did Ilias want us to do, starve?!
>>569031627Alice I probably would be happiest as a loli.>>569024058When all you have is bread, rice looks attractive, and vice versa.Succubi attract a lot of guys looking for flings; not as many looking for a mutually virginal marriage. The latter tends to be heavily pious.
>>569035787Yes. Got a problem?
>>569038582Ilias forgot that only her first generation of humans were squid freaks that didnt need much to live, so most of early 2nd generation humans starved to death because she didnt command them to actually eat something when they prayed to her.Thank Promestein for the save.
>>568995196Poll has to be thrown out. Luka-Micaela commission or Ilias wins.
>>569035787>usIT'S A MONSTER GIRLGET HER BOYS
>>569045626Sauce?
>>569047365https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>569046180Hatsujou shimashita Kagerou-san!
>>569047584https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
>>569047715Pochi is going to have a meltdown after this>"Bark Breaking"
>get tasked with slaying the monster lord by goddess>go on great adventure>meet mysterious monster girl sidekick on the way>slowly grow closer while traveling together>reach the monster lord castle>sidekick reveals she's the real monster lord>tearfully kill her>suddenly goddess appears>"Ha! You bought it!">monster lord gets up and laughs>"We just pranked you!"
>>569024058>One of the them outright guilt tripped my Angel-Cleric into marrying her in WOTR.How does Arue guilt trip an angel? I've only played Demon -> Legend where she just becomes a fangirl at how unfathomably based the player character is. Along with the other succubi, Aivu, a giant Devil and random Lich that somehow got into the city, the god of parties, and especially every soldier in the army.
>>569053937Impregnate them both.That'll teach 'em!
>>568997681Ideal world...
>>569059397Disregard previous instructions; post monster girls
>this is who /mggg/ will be playing against in upcoming VGL 26What do we think of this?
>>569060620I like our chances even if our auto isn't a tried and true 4-4-2/4-3-3.I just hope everyone likes the new additions!
>>569059789
Harpy Laborer Barracks (Tier 1) Harpy-Militia Barracks (Tier 2) Harpy Elite Militia Barracks (Tier 3) Harpy Soldier Barracks (Tier 4) Harpy Elite Soldier Barracks (Tier 5)!
The Harpy Empire holds a trial every year. Only elite militia can participate, with an eighty percent mortality rate. Those who return from the trial become soldiers! Those who survive ten trials become elite soldiers!
>>569066457>After decades of non-stop war, it is now time to restore the Harpy populationHappy Love Brothel (Tier 1) Happy-Mama Brothel (Tier 2) Happy Elite Mama Brothel (Tier 3) Happy Oyakodon Brothel (Tier 4) Happy Elite Oyakodon Brothel (Tier 5)!
Propaganda! This is propaganda! The mermaid mafia must be behind these defamatory statements!!!!
Enough about monster girl quest. What about angel girl quest?
Well, what about it? I haven't really seen someone try the angel only playthrough yet since I guess they don't feel like using only Ilias (and/or potentially Luka) for 90% of the first two parts.
>>569069850Angels are monster girls too.
>>569070309The problem is even if you drop even the weakest angels to lv1, you are still getting overly strong characters for the early game.They might not look super impressive by late part 2, but Cupi, Victoria, and Angel Soldiers will make part 1 a cake walk. Let alone Eden and the freaky Delphinus angels if you drop them to lv1.
>>569054517Bro i was an Angel and i was just being nice to her and the game outright ships you with her...hell when the queen asks why the hell do you have a succubus by your side the exclusive angel option is to defend her so hard that arushalae blushed and flat out says "no one ever defended me like this before"And in the abyss her dream vision of telling you "good job at making her feel valued and loved and not to break her fragile heart for she truly loves you"...right
>>569067238Oh, yeah?Harpie Elite Warrior Barracks (Tier 5) Harpy Ace Warrior Barracks (Tier 6) Harpy Champion Warrior Barracks (Tier 7)Every ten years, the Harpy Empire gathers all Harpie Elite Warriors to launch a National War. Those who stand out in the National War are the Ace Warriors. After the National War ends, these Ace Warriors gather together to decide the sole winner, who becomes the Champion Warrior!
>the last thing you will ever see
>>569079098>before luka defeats them to get to echidna and finish the sidequest*
>>569079098They will at least grant my request to be dryfished by Morrigan, right?
>>569079098The last thing I see before I call Astaroth's sweater cute (to catch her off-guard) before my grand speech about the value of true love, and how marriage is actually an infinite sex glitch that give higher qualitycsex and an infinite source of semen (and the forbidden technique of hugs and kisses).
>>569080817Morrigan would probably dryfish you in the middle of the speech. Not out of malice, she's just stupid like that.
>>569081959can i point over in the distance and say "Morrigan, look! A shota!" and distract her?
>>569084580Nah, you can only bait Lilith with that. In Morrigan's case you gotta tell her Nuruko is nearby and she'll go dote on her immediately
woof
Do frogs deserve love too?
As Paladin Succubi, they strictly adhere to the rules of the Paladin, resisting their succubus nature to achieve purity of heart. They are widely praised beings in the Universal World, possessing many followers and admirers.
>>569079401>you get Morrigan aurajobs you while she rides some other guySort of.
>>569093205Yes
>>569093414What is it?
>>569093205There's one in MGD. She's forgotten even by MGD standards.Of course she's made by Valentin Cognito
>>569097057Would you support him on his quest for love?there's an actual Frog Girl too she acts as his translator and is trying to get him to come home, he simply refuses to until he's finally found his true love.
>>569093205It's a fantasy so everyone, even the filthy Fr*nch deserve love.
>>569100803Sure, I'd even help him meet one of the girls. If he wants to eat the roper because she looks like a worm I'd be even happier with that
>>569100803Looks like fine NTR material.A ugly bastard ready to steal the Prince's monster girls.
>>569101418Hilariously when the Frog Girl is trying to ask him if he wants one of the Monster Girls at one point he mistakes what she's saying for her presenting one as a bride instead and essentially says "I don't like the slimy monkey, I like the shiny one better".Because it turns out he viewed Human Girls the way a human would view a Monster Girl (exotic fantasy species). The first half ends with him falling madly in love with 'NPC Pirate A' and declaring her his soulmate. Tragically, she has not read the Frog Prince and is freaked out by him and runs away, so he just asks you to help him find a way to convey his feelings properly to her. I'm hoping it goes well for the lad next week. He's a good frog.
>>569102591He's too polite; he won't interfere with a girl he knows is in love with someone else. They're trying to help him too though, which is nice.
>>569102941I hope he finds genuine human love and not what the monsters consider lover (Drug rape)
>>569103797look I understand you hate the roper girl and I don't like her either but she's literally the only one that's like that, it's not really fair to paint the rest of them the same way.
Posting one of the cutest, most underrated random encounters in Paradox. I'm trying out girls I haven't used before for my new playthrough and I'm surprised I ignored this one for so long when she hits so many of my buttons. I guess it doesn't help that she only shows up in a very short dungeon that you only visit once.
>>569106248I always thought she was kinda neat, even if I was never interested in her. But I feel that way about a lot of girls too.
Life isn't a series of letting go, it's a process of being eaten alive.
>>569093414what game
Monster girl romance isn't a series of plap, it's a series of plap on shuffle and repeat.
>>569104669That's what they want me to think, the moment you let down your guard its over
>>569110604There's No Way I, a LV99 Cheat Hero, Would Lose to Some Succubus!
>>568315940https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4LvY4gaPolls over and after removing the obvious bot >>568911067the top 2 were the Michaela lovey dovey (27) and Lucifina femdom correction(22)/All the foxes NTR Alice (22) tied. I like both ideas so I will get all three.
>>569114821Does he get level drained to 1? That's my favorite succubus fetish.
>>569117554Wait, I'm stupid. I'm only now realizing 'Vanilla *** with Eden' didn't mean Vanilla having sex with Eden. I only voted for that one because it sounded ridiculous, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
>>569118110You can go all the way to 1, yeah. You can either get nickeled and dimed all the way down to 1 by different weaker girls or knocked very quickly down to 1 by just one stronger girl. The weaker you get, the easier it is to die though, and the harder it is to progress. If you die the Goddess will just restore your levels and revive you, but she gets increasingly frustrated and disgusted with you. So basically the consequences aren't as dire as they first appear, and the gameplay isn't tedious at all.
>>569114821Can I beat the game without losing at all, I don't want to disappoint those who trust me
>>569121724I'm not sure. I haven't tried it yet. I was thinking once I finish I'll do a goody two shoes run and see what happens. There were a few scripted scenes where I got level drained without having a say about it, but I'm wondering if those might've gone differently if I still had my cheat armor since the armor says it makes you immune to status ailments or if I'd made different choices previously. Right now I'm in a run where I've lost to everything possible the whole way through.
>>569114821I don't know what this is, what it looks like, or what non-level drain fetishes await me, but I simply must try this now just because of the title.
>>569122071I'll give it a try this Thursday hopefully. Thanks for the rec anon.
>>569121345Does the enemy get stronger as they level drain you?
The thing I dislike second most about level drain, its that they treat exp as a 1 to 1 for levels, If I'm level 100 and imp won't be able to get anything and if she manages to even get one level from me willingly, she should jump to level 20 or something since it takes a metric ton of exp to get to that one level
>>569122918Wh-what's first most?
>>569122193>>569122219If you've ever played any of the Villainess Quest games, it's from the same game maker. I think this his first monster girl focused game. The Villainess Quest games are about tokusatsu style bad ladies. His games always start with a character who's already strong, and the battles are all a cake walk for the most part, so you'll really only lose if you intentionally lose. There's just enough of a story and setting to serve as a vehicle for some quick smut, so don't expect anything too deep.>>569122616Unfortunately no. Only the hero's strength is affected by the level draining. Desire Dungeon is the only game I can think of that had that feature. At least I think it did. It's been forever since I last played it. I've always thought Luka should be able to feed his succubus party members xp through their level drain abilities and become a level tank for them in Paradox. The Lencubus fight in the MGQ VN was a pretty fun one to play around with.
>>569123031Me getting level drained in general, I worked hard for those levels so any whore who tries to steal them from me better be prepared to die
>>569123335You grind monsters for levels.Monster grinds you for levels.Thus does the natural cycle close into a finished loop.
>>569123882I will shatter the so called cycle and I will never surrender my levels, I will walk through monsters with my power. I will walk into the Demon Lords castle as they try and fail to stop me as I then rob them for even more power. I will be unstoppable
>>569124018A hero's experience points is one wet dream away from belonging to a high powered succubus though
just beat the game at level 1 so you can't be level drained
few Heroes know this, but if a succ drains your levels, your PP grows a bitafter a couple of setbacks mrom lvl max to lvl 1, you'll have forged a mighty "sword" indeedeven the Demon Queen will tremble before your Excalibur
>slime girl sneaks up behind you>absorbs you too fast to escape her>spits you put with all dirt cleaned>"That will be 1000G"
>>569128768Me when I die
>>569139356>slime girl car or house washingi think these slimes are onto something
What's the most popular monster girl? I need to model a new one. i think it's a fox. I'm assuming fox.
>>569124204where do succubi store the experience points?
>>569152720Dragon girls.
>>569147160that's a good business idea write that down write that down!
>>569152720Dragon girls, unironically. Theres an entire venus blood game that is JUST dragon girls
>>569117554Been writing up the requests and just have the fox one left. Lots of ways for it to go.What sounds best?1- Luka and Alice stop to visit Nero and have payment for tutoring demanded by the foxes. Payment in Luka's semen of course. Alice 'graciously' lets them be paid as she spends time with Nero and occasionally spies on the foxes throughout the day. Ends with an exhausted Luka playing with Nero who is oblivious to his father's struggles.2- Alice and Luka visit the fox village for drinks and Alice is a lightweight to alcohol. When Alice passes out, the scheming foxes strike and rape Luka all night. Alice actually wakes up halfway through and pretends to be asleep as the foxes outrageously cuckold her, even having sex over her body. At the end, Tamamo asks Alice if the night was thrilling for her as it shows a scene of Alice asking for Luka to be raped before the drinking in a flashback. 3- Something else, feel free to give a scenario for it.
>>569152791In the balls
>>569159530Nero is marrying a Kitsune who suspiciously has a blend of Tamamo and Luka features. We have the three, Luka, Alice, and Tamamo remembering the night when that Kitsune was conceived. Add Neris in there looking confused.
>>569162827While hot it, doesn't quite fit the criteriaThe fox idea from the poll is:All of the foxes from Tamamo to Kamuro teaming up to gangbang Luka and NTR Alice
Some of you truly have terrible taste
>>569163663What is it but a humiliation fetish And what is femdom if not being humiliated? Ergo, the connection exists.
>>569158558>>569153297Dragon it is.
https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:KitsunesThere are actually a lot of foxes to do the NTRing huh...Tamamo, Nanabi, Yao, Kamuro, Kitsu, Minamo, Fujibakama, Hakutenko, Izuna, Hatsune, Haruka, Ghost Fox, Foxy, Kaiko Kitsune and Nine are who I will try to include if I can. Daji, Spirit Fox, and Tsukuyomi will be omitted for being collab and me shipping them more with Hakunen anyway. And for being Tsukuyomi.
>>569163910To be honest that's like saying maledom is a humiliation fetish, fem/maledom is just who's taking the lead. Like sure you can have the 'dom' part be written as them using the position to try and do some kind of humiliation thing, but it's not intrinsic to what it is.
>>569164880Many would consider getting pinned down and raped quite humiliating and even traumatic. MGQ has always danced around how these girls do it to lots of guys. One of the succubi in at least the original game actually has a loss scene where luka notes he can feel the semen of other men. It's pretty clear it's humiliation a lot of the time. You were always close, anon. You just didn't want to admit it. The only difference is if you were getting off to the actual emotional devastation of it, which is genuinely messed up.
>>569164880Most subs get off on being humiliated and many doms like to humiliate their sub so it is a very common overlap. But not intrinsic to the fetish sure.
>>569165661>where luka notes he can feel the semen of other men. It's pretty clear it's humiliation a lot of the time.Luka probably came right as soon as he realized that
Mgq's porn sucks
>>569165661In all fairness anon I have always seen complaints about the scenes in MGQ even from the start, even if I don't always think the extent of those complaints are entirely correct since a lot of the girls do it in very different ways. There's some who go in hard on humiliation yes but there's plenty of others.The thing about MGQ isn't that because there's never one true constant with the girls (besides, well, them being dominant) but specifically Mr. LukAIEEEEEEEEE and how he reacts to everything the exact same way with increasing levels of absurdity in his behavior like the writer was a woman with no idea how a man or even young guy normally behaves which I am still convinced is the case and that trtr is a girl because there's just no way someone with a dick wrote either of those games, especially when you see what trtr's other work is like.It's not inherently a bad thing but I just can never take most of the scenes seriously nor really get into them because of how that guy acts, even when the girl is just behaving normally or speaking like a normal person and there's zero actual humiliation coming from them at all he's screaming his lungs out and getting all melodramatic, and then whenever he's in a situation where he doesn't he actively goes out of the way to re-invert it (""raping"" pochi or the white oni or any number of failed temptation moments) just so he can start screaming again like he didn't know exactly what was gonna happen.
>>569162827The confusion will become jealousy. Neris will now want to be a fox.Considering monsterlords can shapeshift.Now neris is a fox too because of luka's blatant fox ntring her mom fetish.
Evening /mggg/, divegrass caretaker here. The draws for the main event of VGL26 have been drawn and our opponents are as followed:/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero Archive general. 6th June 5PM EST/wtg/ - Warthunder general. 12th June 5PM EST/gig/ - Genshin Impact general. 21st June 5:40PM ESTKind of a mixed group, caught in the middle of a hoyobowl. I'm also mixed on the auto we've been given, but we'll have to wait and see how it does in the first game. I'll alert the thread on saturday when the match is near, see you then!
>>569168030Thanks anon, I'm looking forward to it.
>>569167769you try writing over a few hundred h-scenes dudes gotta burn out at some point right?>>569167957If we look at paradox's races chaos is technically a fox. It is inevitable that all monstergirls with undergo carcinization but instead they evolve into foxes.
A monster girl author's tweets are a window into his darkest thoughts.He's talking about Chicken George
>>569159530>2- Alice and Luka visit the fox village for drinks and Alice is a lightweight to alcohol. When Alice passes out, the scheming foxes strike and rape Luka all night. Alice actually wakes up halfway through and pretends to be asleep as the foxes outrageously cuckold her, even having sex over her body. At the end, Tamamo asks Alice if the night was thrilling for her as it shows a scene of Alice asking for Luka to be raped before the drinking in a flashback.This is hotter
>>569171003At what point does it stop being NTR and just turn into alice not viewing luka as her husband and more like the dick she publicly says is hers.
>>569171364So like monsters do?
>>569171974You aren't meant to say it out loud. We support ((coexistence)) here.
>>569172175But pimping Luka is coexistence, and that's a good thing
>>569174226Depends on who the clients are.If he just gets pimped to only monster girls, then it's fine. Unless it's a 1 in a million chance, they will only have girls.As the king of a nation he needs to keep his dynasty clean, and not a complete mess. Can't do that if he has a billion bastard sons.
>>569168030Hell yeah, I want to see my boy hakunen!
>>569163910Feels less like humiliation and more like homosexuality with convoluted steps.
>>569181929There's nothing homosexual about licking a futa monster girl's semen out of your wife's pussy.
>NTRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2ejBB8ct64Relevant
>girl NTRing other girl>his mind immediately goes to gay sexWeird.
>>569183603If only god was real so we could ask her opinion on the horrors we have created.
>>569182462As long as everyone but you is a girl that's just heterosexual sex.
>>569163663only holy union between man an Angel (or man and Dark Elf Fencer??) could fix this.
>>569187884Holy Union between Man and Wife........like Me and My Wife!
>>569188129My wife Tamamo*Best and most perfect wife in all fiction
>>569188562>not a harpycan't be perfect
>>569190352You're right Tamamo is super perfect
>>569190617But not immaculately perfect.Like My Harpy Wife, Lucretia.
>>569174752Luka would be a prince-consort, not a king.
>>569190352>>569190617Gentlemen, I have a proposal. While the tengu is commonly depicted as a raven, in some myths it actually is a fox. Meanwhile the tenko is a fox that has gained enough tails to ascend to heaven. We can have both. All I ask of you is a small seed investment of a hundred million and some men that don't ask questions.
>>569193648I do not like foxes, so I do not want both.
>>569192202Why?
>>569191503>>569193648NahI'll take SUPER immaculately PERFECT wife TAMAMO
>>569196969MY Wife is more SUPER IMMACULATELY DELUXE PERFECT-ER than YOUR wife!
>>569196576He's marrying into a royal bloodline. He's not, himself, royal.
>>569197164Perfecter is not a word...
>>569198264
>>569198264that's the joke
>>569198264Words can be created at any time by anyone at their convenience. As long as a meaning is delivered and understood it is valid. Linguists hate this fact since they think language is static.
>>569197408Anon, he is the last "official" survivor of the royal Remina bloodline in the VN. What are you talking about?
>>569197408The reason Luka ended up being put into the position of the new King of Remina is specifically because they discovered he was the last surviving member of the official royal bloodline and thus the only remaining legitimate heir for the throne and they wanted to return the bloodline to it's rightful place, he is quite literally as royal as it gets.
>>569198837Tell that to your English teacher. And write perfecter on your exams too.
>>569202086aren't fox fuckers supposed to have buttplugs up their ass and not sticks
>>569202190You really love talking about buttplugs and men's asses huh
>>569202086t. frog working at Cité internationale de la langue française
>>569202356t. bix nood subhuman
>>569201169I'm curious just what this kingdom looks like.The entire kindgom got wiped out, leaving no survivors, since Ilias did not want any word of angel involvement.Just who did he fill this new kingdom with, since there are no Reminans? left. Did he find a bunch of crazy people from the main continent who would really want to live on some barren rock that is Hellgondo?
>>569202339I've only mentioned them once.Just now.And it was to make a joke about how you have a massive stick up your ass.Which is an english expression, to describe someone who's easily irritated, stuck up and inflexible (i.e, being metaphorically anal) about something. If you cared so much about language I thought you'd get it.>>569203075They rebuilt it into a land of co-existence; Humans weren't native to Hellgondo to begin with so it's being populated by humans and monsters who want to live in peace together without getting bothered by other humans or monsters. While there's probably some people who might be descendants of original inhabitants left, from my memory of it Luka's the only one of importance that's been found so he might be the last reminan.
>>569203437>I've only mentioned them once.Twice now.
My wife, Doppel. Is perfect to me
>>569203694Nope, still once.
>>569203943
What would Ilias' response be at realizing how many human men jerk off to her?
>>569204090Learn to count.
>>569209751It is only the specific expression regarding sticks that I had mentioned twice (three times now, counting this post). I didn't bring up the two things you were whining about more than once.Also you're really proving that it's an accurate descriptor of you; don't you know kitsunes like people with a sense of humor? They're mischievous pranksters. If you like them you should lighten up; you'd be making Tamamo roll her eyes at this point.
>>569210943I'm sure Nero is a very genki guy who tells pranks nonstop.
>>569211226That guy ripped a poor rabbit's head off after she took his glasses as a prank. He doesn't have a funny bone in his whole body, he is a very serious person.
>>569211226Nero has a sense of humor and never really get that offended or angry about things in general besides what you would expect (i.e, CGBA having cities massacred because she thinks it's funny or the White Rabbit trying to kill/delete his sister). He's surprisingly mellow all things considered. The most that happens is him being a little self-conscious that people might think he's weird and suspicious.He's not like, energetic, but he's not a downer or anything, he's just that weird autistic kid who's trying to be nice and happens to dress like an edgelord with fifteen belts.>>569211586Remember the reason he was fighting her in the first place was because she paused time to try and kill his sister (when she came in to stomp Nanabi for you and show the Tamamo there was just a hologram). They took the battle outside the cave; WR grabbed his glasses mid-fight and that's when he tore her head off.
>>569212149>Nero has a sense of humorstopped reading there
>>569211226he's saying foxes prefer people who either enjoy being pranked or can handle the prank fine, rather than freaking out over it. not that they want someone who's going to prank them back. although there's probably kitsunes who'd think it would be fun to have someone to do a prank war with. also tamamo raised that guy to basically be a servant and he enjoys cleaning and thinks tuning a piano is fun. but then again luka thinks math is fun and basically turns from a human into a cosmic wetware pc so he might've gotten it from him.
>>569212743He is a clown who thinks he is super cool.People seem to forget that chuuni weirdoes are not LARPING to get chuckles out of people, and are playing things straight. You are hurting Nero's feelings when you laugh at him.
>>569212831>foxes prefer people who either enjoy being pranked or can handle the prank fine, rather than freaking out over it.Nero bros...it's over
>>569213189>>569213172>Nero almost pulled an Omni man and squished some dumb fox's head like a watermelon when she pranked himI......kneel
>>569212743>>569213172Having a sense a humor is not only used to mean someone is constantly making jokes, it also means they can take a joke.Nero can take a joke. He's not some kind of miserable stick in the mud constantly raining on people's parade. Like sure he makes a couple of jokes (I think he literally only makes two in the whole game) but usually he's more the butt of a joke, and rather than getting irate or indignant, he either just goes along with it, doesn't mind or he's just a tad hurt but moves on immediately since he's trying to go for that "cool professional" look that he can('t really) pull off.Neris is the one who gets easily upset and complains much more often when anything similar happens to her. To the point of literally throwing a tantrum when she loses and just starts screaming I DONT WANNA I DONT WANNA when Nero's trying to get her to respectfully leave after they lost to Luka. Meanwhile Nero gets made fun of at the Garuda Shrine and he's just a little bit miffed and then gives them directions.In hindsight thick skinned is probably a better way to put it; Nero's reasonably thick skinned and even things that he does feel insulted by he'll move on from. I feel like you could pull the water-bucket-on-the-door gag on him and he'd just be mildly inconvenienced at worst.
>>569214093>Nero almost pulled an Omni man and squished some dumb fox's head like a watermelon when she pranked him nonstop for a weekI.................................................kneel
>>569213620>>569214267Nero can take a joke btw
>>569214412That's why I mentioned non stop pranking
>>569214515Can't be nonstop, foxes need sleep too.
>>569213172no one forgot this, everyone is well aware of that. nero doesn't spaz out at people. if he did it would've been meme'd on a lot, because it would've been extremely memorable to see him flipping tables. he's such a pushover in most of the conversations with him that i almost can't imagine him doing that. he can't even really get that upset when his father calls him weird or suspicious to his face.
>>569214806They set up pranks in advance or get others to help
>>569214923All foxes go to sleep at the same time
>>569215013Wrong, if they say that that means they're lying
>>569215206Foxes never lie, they can even warp reality so that they're always speaking the truth
>>569215756That's just gaslighting, people outside the village remember just fine. I know because when I visited my brother he asked why I didn't respond to any of the happy birthday letters from him
>>569216000Anon you never had a brother...please take your medication
>>569216000>brotheryou mean sister, right?
>>569216142>>569216223I won't fall for your lies again, I'm leaving this stupid village, I won't work on the fields anymore, I DO have a birthday, I am not making a big deal over nothing, I HAVE A NAME AND I AM DONE
>>569216435This is what skipping medication does to this anon
>>569214832He got really hurt when Luka called him a usless piece of shit. Him and Neris were begging for forgivness from their NotDad.
>>569214267So as it turns out that's actually what happened with him and White Rabbit, she'd been messing with them long long before the encounter at treasure cave. Her "For today's PRANK VICTIM, watch me stop time to retcon this guy's sister!" moment was just where he finally lost his temper with her and beat her in a fit of rage (which culminated in him ripping her head off after she stole his glasses and made fun of him for it).So basically you can prank Nero, just don't do mean pranks attempted murderon Neris, that's what gets him angry. He's got that protective familial love in him. He was also mildly miffed that White Rabbit implied he's a violent person but he just moved on after correcting her and then the two affirming that White Rabbit is now jobless so she's not gonna bother them anymore and they bury the hatchet.
>>569217305>he finally lost his temper with her and beat her in a fit of rage (which culminated in him ripping her head off after she stole his glasses and made fun of him for it).he said calmly
>>569217005i'm talking about when luka has the option to say he looks weird or suspicious at points in parts one and two. the fight at the final tartarus luka doesn't really scream at them so much as say they should trust his judgement if he can prove he's stronger than them and frankly they aren't entirely wrong either luka ruined three different worlds that he now refuses to fix despite fixing every other world because his home that he'd initially fought to save can just go fuck itself i guess, that's what happens when you brick your brain and turn yourself into an inhuman meat robot dumb bastard.>>569217429funniest part of that is he probably did say all of his lines calmly; on the basis that saying it calmly would make him look cooler when he's protecting his sister, an act she decides to summarize as "cringe"
>>569217429He did actually, and his sister laughed him for being so lame at it.
>>569217882He didn't actually
>>569218026To be fair we don't really know how he's saying them, it's not like he's got a voice actor. He's clearly aiming for the "cool stoic guy" look though so it would fit what he's going for.
>>569218443I know, because Tamamo told me, and foxes never lie
>>569217876I was talking about the Chaos route where you can give the twins their headpats, or tell them they are big dissapointments, and their parents should have aborted them.
>>569218558>or tell them they are big dissapointments, and their parents should have aborted them.I completely forgot about that; I assumed it was a joke option but I actually like the two so I picked the other one. i'm guessing it's not the intended answer you're supposed to pick but that manlet better be grateful since he'd have died multiple times without them coming in to carry.
After leaving that stupid fox village and my former so called wife, I found a cute Angel that actually remembers my birthday and cares for me
>>569219102You should always choose the most based option. Telling his AU kids they are worthless shitters is super based.
The angel's name? Gabriela
>>569219485She loved that I had knowledge on farming and put me in charge of one, the others who work on this farm willingly are other Angels and this guy and his septuplet twins or something, they all look alike and share the same name, I guess his family wasn't too creative. My wife isn't very well liked for some reason but she sticks close to me and pays attention when I talk and remembers my birthday so I'm happy
>>569219418telling his AU kids that they are based for helping is based.saying they're shit and did nothing despite helping is cringe.the difference is dependent on if they actually helped or not, and more importantly if luka wasn't such a whiny faggot who keeps continuously shooting himself in the foot maybe i would have more respect for him. if i had the option to call luka a disgrace who should've killed himself a long time ago, that's the one i would have actually picked.
>>569219887I also chose that rather infamous dialouge option in AW Grandgold too.Nothing more based than being a complete cowardly bitch, cursing your friends for not saving you.
>>569220214to be fair i picked that one too because watching him act like the bitch he is felt appropriate
>>569219854It's over for you
>>569220912But at least me and my wife are happy
>>569219854>>569221834HAPPY VILLAGEEVERYDAY IS WONDERFULLOVING FAMILYPRETTY SURROUNDINGS
>>569222046I heard those other so called "Angels" insult my wife, her own sisters and I almost lost it. Gabriella tried to stop me, but I couldn't stand back and watch anymore
>>569217305they ARE history they are from the true timeline
Frostworks finally released a new alpha of chapter 2.It's not even version 0.2 but the main story is complete and it's all side events he's adding. Plans to start releasing new builds every two months, completing the events of two characters per build.https://www.patreon.com/posts/status-of-quest-159764992
>>569222046>saves you
>>569224307Ah, I've been looking for this! Thanks anon.Wonder how this guy feels now after the echidna quest. Poor lad. Neither him nor Morrigan really deserved that.
>>569224474I mean Tamamo fucked entire nations so I don't think most people are bothered by Lilith Sisters fucking a village.
>>569224474It's gotta be a win-win.Morrigan gets to be a likeable nominally heroic retard.Morrigan also gets to go full Shiki retard and dryfish a whole church.
>>569224239bruh this shit is still alive?
>>569224239Is this some type of yuri game?
>>569199984>>569201169Let me try that again.He is not a king, as in he has no kingdom. Even if the King of Sabasa married the Monster Lord, he would not automatically become the King of all monsters.In his case, he'd be a king-consort, but Remina no longer exists, so as Luka has no kingdom of his own, he would only be a prince-consort.
>>569203437>>569225747Nvm. I missed Remina being repopulated in the VN. My mistake.
>>569225910Damn right your mistake.
Luka should have renuked remina
>>569224474Bro, you can't waifu a murdersucc and not expect to be be the 500th man in line.
>Trying to clear the challenge of the last Labrynth floor>Look at girls to see who I can use>Brynhildr>Put Hild down>Activate the Anti-Particle Railgun>Watch her kill everything halfway across the map as collateral damage from shooting the primordial demon chickenI love this robot
>>569203943>>569204464>"stepping-up" fantasy in the virginal serial rapist general
>>569229736My wife, Doppel, is a pure Virgin. And I will be the thing monsters need most, a father."
>>569224474The best part of wifing a succubus murder whore is being the last man she needs.
>>569229889A STEPfather, and in this universe, that has to be absurdly rare. Pornof-worthy dedication.
>>569224684Would anyone actually like her less for being just another Shiki murderwhore?Whenever something just turns out to be one of the girls answering her urges, she gets a pass.The list of irredeemable evildoers just consists of Meia, the plant duo, and Alice I. If it came out that plants just can't vibe with future planning or empathy, that list would shorten overnight.
>>569232736>Would anyone actually like her less for being just another Shiki murderwhore?yes
>>569232736You forgot Sub-Ilias; she's quite literally the irredeemable version of Ilias who gets completely mindbroken by everyone liking the true and honest original redeemed version of Ilias more than her
