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>News & updates
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/

>Resources
Items
https://arcforge.org/
Skill Tree Builder
https://arcskilltree.com/
Interactive Maps
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
https://arcraidersmaps.app/
Event Timers
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/event-timers
Key Card locations
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
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Canto sucks.
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Rascal sucks.
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>enjoy my relaxing carebear games
>get gunned down once every 50 games for no reason
>check profile
>either no profile or russians with previous bans on record
im not even losing much since i only run anvils its just annoying that these cunts are allowed to play
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>less conflict
b-but I want zero conflict
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anyone else suffering from longer queue times today?
i thought it was because i was playing at 9 am but its evening now and still takes like a min to find NR games
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>>568677606
Tbh in my anecdotal experience, if the game takes longer than 40s to queue than it's like 100% a latejoin and probably a really late join at that.
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>>568677606
Player numbers are down on steam
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>>568679919
Its not low enough to really affect queue time.
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>>568680653
Unless you live in already low pop regions where it goes from bad to worse.
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>>568666257
I like it but hate that the blueprint seems impossible to find.
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>>568684319
big mess up on their part
should be added to an early quests and purchasable from the trader
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>>568684478
I wish they would put more behind quests. On the other hand a lot of the blueprints are exceptionally deep in the quests like the burletta blueprint.
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>>568684690
I figured this was coming at some point. It's already present for the breaking bar. I really don't mind as long as they don't look too silly.
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so what are YOU bringing along?

the obvious one is looting mk3 but after that idk what
wolfpacks are ass ever since they need rocketeer drives
deadmines i get so often in stellar nightraids same as seeker
honestly considering bettina since its buffed and not to cancer to make along with addon blueprints
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>>568679919
Unfortunately a lot of players from both sides seem to be quitting. PVP players are quitting because of hacking. PVE players are quitting due to people constantly breaking the ABMM to kill them.
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>>568685626
I bring the same things every expedition.

The equipment to level up my gun bench, a hullcracker blueprint, and a debrillator blueprint.
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>>568685804
Nintendo won. Arc raiders lost
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>>568685804
nah, i can stand cheaters in some dosage but there's basically jack shit to do
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>>568685626
tac3 healing (rly good for dedicated pvp runs due to all the healing quick slots, has 3 safe slots)
silencer 1
comp 2
stable stock 2
light mag 2
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>>568685626
everything.
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>>568685626
As many volcanic rocks as I can get.
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>>568677606
Theres nothing to do. Expedition's done trials are done and I dont want to farm big arc anymore.
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Since when do Wolfpacks require fucking Rockeeter parts?
I wasted all that gear for nothing...
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>>568684319
the entire BP system is pants on retarded.
>green and pink basically have the same drop chance
>some like the canto are apparently only found in hurricane
green and blue should be way more common and pinks should be locked behind key rooms and big arc.
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>>568706572
since like 3 months ago
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>>568685804
i uninstalled, way too many cheaters,over half of my games have players with a level 1 account, or private, or not set up, or just have a recent gameban, randomly generated steam names too i fucking swear theres more cheaters than legitimate players
you cannot play the game let alone progress if you have a few games where you kill several raiders
mixed lobbies are also dead because fucking surprise the rats/extract campers/whatever the fuck you want to call them have cheats too
theres even cheats that let you directly connect to carebear lobbies if you really want to wipe out everyone no need to suicide over and over
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looks like they nerfed the riven tide hotel keys
I got a rock three times in a row instead of another key
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>>568710151
>theres even cheats that let you directly connect to carebear lobbies
lol
>"cheaters don't affect us"
lmao even
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>>568710486
>>"cheaters don't affect us"
They don't. I have been killed once in the past 100 lobbies and it was more due to my panicking and bad reflexes than some cheater turning on god mode and wiping the entire lobby.
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>>568713858
nta but esp includes loot radars, doesn't really have to be combat-related
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>>568710214
nope thats the shitty RNG nature of the game. don't you love it? very cool that the hard to find key rooms have RNG attached to the loot so when you open up a pink key room, you can find a half durability bureltta and some white bandages.
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yes
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>>568706572
???
get good?
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>>568685804
is there some family share/new acc shit going on or do they keep buying accs with stolen credit cards to get into friendly lobbies?
>carebear lobby
>go into room
>instantly mowed down in half a second
>see 4 other corpses already in here (didnt hear any flares)
>lvl 4 bobcat (surprise its the ones being duped you where people post them extracting with multiple of the same+addons)
>this player hasnt set up his steam acc yet
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>>568714195
NTA but I assume you have proof that they go in PvE lobbies? If I had cheats I'd be killing people, not looting
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you should be more worried about the damn game cheating you out of loot than actual cheaters anyways.

shit rng, bad spawns, bad spawns when you have keys. ive been fucked over more by embark than i ever have been by cheaters.
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>>568727773
they just beeline to expensive bp spots, that's pretty much all they do
it's not as disruptive as getting aimbotted but assuming that it doesn't happen because you can't see it is retarded

if you loot specific spots long enough you're gonna start noticing that sometimes a single container is open out of all the other ones and if you open it you will find 1/4 items missing, which is usually a bp.
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>>568727941
people complain about rng loot a lot but literally everybody seems to have a stash full of purple guns and gubbins

maybe the game is fine
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>>568728442
>literally everybody seems to have a stash full of purple guns and gubbins
isn't that just a different problem at this point? loot doesn't go anywhere and people just stop looting which is supposed to be the main thing
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>>568728442
>everybody seems to have a stash full of purple guns and gubbins
those are the dupers
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>>568728253
So no proof, got it. Everyone beelines to the usual spots.
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>>568729247
>one exact container open out of 30+ in a zone
>one item missing from a 4-item spawn
i mean if you can't do 2+2 it's your problem
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>>568729417
Any screenshots of this happening?
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>>568729417
>open a container
>get a bp you want
>skedaddle out of there
HACKERS
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>>568730626
>>568729417
>just grabbing the BP
Who the fuck does this cheater or not cheater? I have already opened and searched the container, why not just grab the items, they are right there. Unless you have a infinite money and item generate cheat in which case you could just generate a blueprint.
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>>568732976
idk man, just my observations, i doubt there can be any other conclusion to a single bp-loaded container being looted out of the whole zone
best guess they're just searching for one or two items to be duped at a later date
very rarely there's a naked body next to that container, which makes it even more sus
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>>568710151
We need to build a Great Firewall around India.
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>>568732976
inventory space isnt free
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>>568733549
>very rarely there's a naked body next to that container, which makes it even more sus
or they're just not running a freekit, pocketed the bp, and extracted
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>>568735982
yes but why specifically that one container is looted, you can't win rng all the time
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>>568736398
Why are you assuming it's one person and the same container every time?
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>>568736695
>one person one container
what?
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>>568726358
Family share is enabled however if one account gets banned all of them do and family access is turned off.

>>568729247
That anon is just flat out wrong, too. Loot is not generated until the box is opened. Unlike games like Tarkov where it is generated at the beginning of the lobby.
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>>568738570
>you are wrong and nothing actually happened
that's extremely jewish of you
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>>568736874
>what?
You said:
>you can't win rng all the time
Right here you're implying it's the same person opening the container, grabbing the bp, and dipping every time.

Maybe once in 25+ raids I'll go into a room and see one or a few containers opened with all the others untouched. I think you're making this out to be a bigger issue than it is. As the other anon said, if loot is even generated at the start of the map versus when the container is looted.

Again, if you have cheats, why would you just loot shit instead of killing people? I already don't understand cheaters, but isn't the point that they want to winwinwin? I don't see how you get that feeling by just looting.
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Anyone notice the same BP drops from the same spots?
I've gotten some BP's 3-4 times (Venator, Defib, Crash Mat, Blaze Grenade, Descender, Showstopper) when I only run Riven Tides in Port Authority and red cranes.
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>>568739656
how in the fuck did you even get that implication
no my original point was that cheating exists in pve lobbies, as per personal observations
if you spam stella medical (assuming you reach it second, i can't possibly know more details without filtering like this) there's a lone open container somewhere inside the zone every 5 to 8 raids or so, if you open that container it would be missing 1 item from a 4 or 3-item spawn (with the usual loot drops still in place, like the stella unique + some basic mat alongside duct tape of some shit), which can be deducted to only 2 things - there was an extremely rare 4-item spawn with no bp and somebody just nabbed a single item on the way to somewhere OR somebody laser targeted a container for a bp spawn and dipped

>why
i already gave you the assumption that it's probably to dupe it for rmt because i can't think of anything else
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>>568740684
Think, nigger. If they're getting these items to dupe, why do they have to keep getting the items instead of just duping what they have?
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>>568741260
>acc banned
>new cheater
>both need to loot shit to start duping
took me like 2 seconds to think that through
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>>568735784
just sell it. Maybe buy some herbal bandages instead of needing to do a mullein run or some seeker nades or some shit
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Embark let me use pink and blue guns to buy expedition slots and inventory space its a easy change you know it'd be a easy change just do it
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>>568741724
game in general needs more loot sinks, either more pvp or some communal projects or other shit
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>>568742276
itd be so easy too. look at traders. easily can make it so they start selling green > blue > pink items based on loot sinks and number of quests completed.
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>>568742579
>easily can make it so they start selling green > blue > pink items based on loot sinks
in english einstein?
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>>568742818
traders have levels. level 1 they sell green stuff. level 2 blue and you get the picture.

to level them up, donate resources or maybe do a certain amount of quests or maybe both.

ez timesink and resource sink.
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>>568743162
Im not asking for more grind I just want to able to dump the guns and use dozen keys I have, cause what am I going to do with 6 torrentes? PvP until I eventually lose all of them? If you are decent at PvP you end up with MORE guns not less.
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>>568743162
oh, yeah that's an option.
also crafting is pretty ass as you're always ending up with the same 2 dozen basic white and green mats that you then make into everything, there are very few items that require something exceptional (like the wolfpack)
also straight up ban stella because shit does not deserve to have that much loot while being a regular map, either nerf the loot (raiders already looted most shit and now it's not as abundant) or give it some entrance fee like an access card to justify it.
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>>568743628
tbf it should be grindy, like what the fuck are you going to do in a game about loot when there's no loot to grind?
you're gonna call the "gib me 200 purple guns event" just as grindly as the lack of ability to get those 200 purple guns, don't be asinine
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>i want to have more uses for my current loot so I grind less and the endgame isnt just farming big arc and can have a bit more variety
>youre right we should make it so you grind even more and it takes even longer for the endgame to be just as tedious
No.
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>>568744048
>nobody cares about medium-tier loot because high-tier loot is literal garbage found on the floor
shit being that lopsided is a problem though
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>>568744048
it still leads to you using the loot instead of it sitting there waiting for you to find a bp or something

if they add 2 more levels to the endgame grind, then the endgame now would be mid game and moved back a step anyways

at all stages there should be more ways to put the resources into something and leveling shit up
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>>568741471
Do you realize the dumb shit you're making up just to explain some open containers?
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>>568744490
stay sub-75, nmp
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>>568743637
>also straight up ban stella because shit does not deserve to have that much loot while being a regular map, either nerf the loot (raiders already looted most shit and now it's not as abundant) or give it some entrance fee like an access card to justify it.
there does need to be something done about it. you can max win by spamming stella with no cost at all, pvp or pve. there is just so much loot there for no investment.
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>>568744656
yea it takes be 3 raids of looting med/assembly to have enough materials for 10 maxed pink guns from scratch, shit's absolutely braindead
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Honestly they shouldnt have caved to the dad gamers/helldivers 2 shitters and kept the BP cost at 1 million and the expedition vault spaces at 400k,600k,800k and 1 million as well. You shouldnt be able to just skip a decent chunk of expedition space on a single account without grinding out at least 270 matriarch cores.
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>>568744583
No one is RMTing for blueprints dude, you can just buy them for seeds
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>>568743637
How to fix Stella.
More Shredders.
Level 25 requirement.
ABMM disabled.
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>>568745359
>No one is RMTing for blueprints
you'd be surprised, i know a few retards who did, most people don't even know that metaforge exists, and even those who do often don't know that there's a marketplace as well
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>>568732976
I've started doing the reverse and taking materials but leaving blueprints and guns I don't need.
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>>568745307
>Helldivers 2
Rent free in your brain dude, God damn.
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>>568747603
hd2 devs nerfed one gun by 2% and he's still seething to this day
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yes yes youtube link but i think its hilarious how the first guy at around 1:30 straight up charges him with a shotgun out, gets downed and starts bitching about getting shot really amazing to see how rats react to getting bested and playing the victim

https://youtu.be/yS6ZJdeLLic?si=3vRe1rJVeKY2ty8L
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>>568750306
>French
Shocking.
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>>568739043
i trust the words of the devs over your personal anecdotes.
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got the wolfpack blueprint with a bunch of stitcher IVs

now I guess I'll save up cores in case we get a good outfit next week
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>>568750306
I guess he didn't get the memo from 4chan pros that PvP lobbies are the best to fight queens and matriarch. This guy is a noob.
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will da bungulator ever return bros...??? can he save the game???
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>>568758215
Only if you kill yourself. Please do so as soon as possible.
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>>568750550
People like him give us such a bad rep. I am very nice I promise!
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>Stella
>Everyone killing the bastion
>Guy with a very heavy french accent
>I only need 1 core, please
>Says that he didn't get one and starts cursing in french
still don't know if he was lying just to get a pity bastion core
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>>568761717
He didn't get one by the way.
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>>568753079
>trusting swedish devs to not lie to their players
You must be new
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>enormous unmitigatible rng mechanics in every raid
>skill ceiling is 3ft high
>Dying means you need to spend 15 minutes setting up a kit with utility, meds, guns, and attachment
>no ranked mode or meta rewards for pvp
>most effective stretgy is to sit around a corner for 20 minutes and wait for somebody to make the fatal mistake of actually trying to play the game
Are people really shocked that the only pvp players who haven't left are cheaters?
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If loot was generated when the map starts, I'd imagine cheaters would be able to see and take all the good shit
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>>568761360
https://youtu.be/-QuVe-hjMs0?si=GRaiCu9xVQY5UDR9&t=21
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>>568763459
https://youtu.be/-_T41pMbgWA
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>>568764867
what face number is that
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>>568764867
I hate how the default bag is off center because of the flaps sticking out near the bottom
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>>568762614
What the fuck is with swedish devs making a very good $20-40 AA game with a solid base, then going complete fucking retard with it?
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>>568764940
>Cuir Brut outfit.
>Tech Test 2 backpack (Not available anymore. Other orange ones can be used.)
>Face 15
>Neutral makeup.

>>568762741
Marathon the "PVP" game isn't doing well either, anon.
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>>568765814
>Marathon the "PVP" game isn't doing well either
I only played one of the closed alphas so maybe I'm just misinformed, but I'm pretty sure Marathon has literally all of the same issues that I posted. Maybe even worse, since all you have to do to get a kill is point and shoot for .2 seconds cawaduty style
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>>568766148
What, you don't like pretentious Bungie trying to be old Bungie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbEnWLRo1s
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>>568766148
From the open beta it basically has those same issues except ranked mode exists as a test to see how much you hate yourself, and you need a literal spreadsheet+calculator to figure out what the fuck is going on with the ranking system. That, and unlike Arc there is no real point to PVE and the loot is beyond worthless outside of designated PVP gear, so everyone at all levels suicide rushes like Arc freekits hoping to catch someone with a kit off guard and snag their loadout.

It's unfiltered cancer.
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>>568762741
Why does it take you 15 to put an outfit back together? Are you retarded?
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>>568757758
>he's still malding
kekaroo everyone knows that pvp lobbies are the best ones for the harvester or matriarch event, retard
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>>568762741
>most effective stretgy is to sit around a corner for 20 minutes and wait for somebody to make the fatal mistake of actually trying to play the game
very surprised "ratting" hasn't been nerfed for "overperforming" like everything else in this game
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>>568767214
>ttk so low gear makes no sense
idk what were they thinking with that in a game about loot
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>>568767214
only reason why marathon hasn't been concorded is because sony enjoys humiliation rituals more than cutting their losses and moving on
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how does anyone get anything in pvp lobbies. especially solo. rats, cheaters, constant free kit hordes. wtf?
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>>568783497
They're just lying and want more easy enemies. That's it.
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>>568783497
>how does anyone get anything in pvp lobbies.
by not being a retard + getting good
>especially solo.
almost exclusively stealth/initiative
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>>568784785
>"good"
so you just lose all the time against people who team up or just anybody who sees you fight another guy.
vids or it didn't happen
>inb4 I just kill the whole lobby
sure.
lmao
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>>568787443
>you have to kill the entire lobby to "win" pvp
i don't talk to retards
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>>568787501
>obsessed with one joke and ignores everything else
You're bad and mad. Kill yourself. You're the biggest retard.
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>>568788183
i wont post pics or webms cuz im just to good
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>>568765814
I literally bought this game out of spite when marathon came out. Glad its a good game overall even if it has some flaws.
>inb4 seething destinytard
Yes I am mad fuck bungie.
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>>568783497
in pvp lobbies you get your loot by doing pvp
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>>568783497
You ambush 1-3 people and hope they arent freekits then dip at a raider hatch. Thats it.
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>3AM Matriarch
>gives me 4 late games in a row
Embark hates me specifically.
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>>568789863
this game is fucking retarded
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>>568789863
Yeah, it happens frequently around those hours.
Matchmaking doesn't have enough people to create a full lobby from start at 3AM.
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>>568784785
>almost exclusively stealth/initiative
This. When I was doing my avian project, so was everybody else. I was having a hard time finding loot in Chungartha, because the map immediately gets picked clean. I started loading in to solo vs squad lobbies and sneaking around. PvPniggers literally never loot. Just sneak around, and you can loot the entire map by yourself. I even ran into a few other friendly solo players doing the same thing.
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>>568798837
Okay wtf is Chungartha? I keep hearing it.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1trkxh1/new_mechanism_for_arcraiders_china_server/
>the chinese are getting more content than us
why are swedish devs so lazy
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>>568799835
friendly lobbies
some people call it that
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>>568801921
Because they get paid more.
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>>568799835
Quirk chungus+Agartha
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so is there any good posts/vids on testing new matchmaking? made a mistake of caving to gay friend and did pvp, now I had like 30 pure pvp matches in a row and its wearing me out
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>>568817907
i feel like it has been the same desu.
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damn these weapon crates are OP as fuck
they better nerf them soon
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>>568822532
pretty sure the average crate is an arpeggio
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>>568822532
Here's an idea: craft the gun you want instead of trying to loot it
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I finally got a steam deck
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Just got my 3rd Matriarch reactor from scrappy
I get the feeling Fruit mix is superior to other feed, yes?
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>>568825237
correct, unless you want some of the other stuff I guess
but I feed him that so I can get free cores for nothing, I think it doubles the base mats you get back too
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>>568822705
are you autistic?
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>>568827408
why becuase you think im missing the hyperbole?
you want me to call you retarded and point out to have high value crates you need low value crates?
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I don't want to farm arc cores anymore grandpa

WELL THATS TOO DANG BAD
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OMG someone opened these drawers but left all the others on this floor untouched. IT MUST HAVE BEEN A HACKER
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>>568838268
oh fuck
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>>568824098
Here's an idea, kill yourself
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>>568822532
why should gun crates have guaranteed amazing loot? what makes them special?
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>>568842971
gun crates behind locked rooms should have at minimum blue guns, not fookin hairpins
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>>568843518
Is this your first video game? It's RNG. Think about keys as guaranteed untouched containers instead of always good loot
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>it's actually good for gun crates to have worse loot than loading in with a free kit
This is your brain on pve lobbies
Just pull the plug, let this shit game die. The players deserve it.
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>walk around dam
>hear another player over proximity chat
>"fucking clankers, I kill all of you, you fuckinnnn clannnnkers"
>keeps talking to himself
He had a very autistic voice
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>>568851014
I talk to myself sometimes
I'm probably schizo or something
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>>568851085
It's fine, but what about turning off your mic if you do that?
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>>568850115
>Think about keys as guaranteed untouched containers instead of always good loot
Yes and thats retarded. Is this Embarks first video game? Key rooms = good loot guaranteed instead of maybe good loot. Why the fuck even bother with keys then if its just a good as chance of getting goodies as spawning and opening a trash bag? Stupid game design and why people dont even get excited for key rooms.

>Key rooms = good loot
>More fights around key rooms
>More opportunities of being able to create more player stories over the fights over key rooms
Instead of players tossing keys in the trash
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>blue gate
>harvester
>4 queen reactors
>at least
>get 4 rounds one rotation
I'm getting good at this. Especially staying right below her to loot her core.
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so how hard is it to get cantina legend? should i try to reach legend and hold rank or try to hold hotshot and get legend right at the end
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>>568851278
Every change Embark has made since launch is based off stats they've pulled that don't take into account that 60% of the population is in friendly lobbies, where every single loot spawn and large arc is picked clean within 7 minutes, and every single raider extracts 99% of the time. If you aren't in those lobbies, you're better off just playing something else, because the game will never make balance changes in your favor, nor will new content ever be interesting for your play style.
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>>568851242
sometimes I forget
I usually try to remember
but I'm also red/green colorblind :)
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>>568851691
you have to be in hot shot to get into cantina
so you have to be in hot shot ahead of time

and then its getting as high as a score of possible on EVERY TRIAL hopeing you are one of the top 1000
so you are placed into Cantina Legend once the week is over
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>>568852016
>60% of the population is in friendly lobbies
>source: my ass
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>>568852016
>Every change Embark has made since launch is based
nice to agree with someone in here for once
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>>568852016
I play a lot of friendly lobbies though and having keys be good would be a nice change. When I pick up a dam staff room key, I get excited and want to go open that room. When I pick up that trash ass security checkpoint epic key for Blue Gate, I don't even bother picking that shit up because I know that room is ass.

Good key rooms would benefit both sides of the game.
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>>568851519
Obviously pure PvE lobbies by the way
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>>568850471
No one said that. If the game is so bad, leave.
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>>568842971
because more often than not they are hidden in some hard to reach places where you need to snaphook or parkour to reach it
you find it ok to waste a zipline for a hairpin?
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Are you guys gonna sign up for the expedition into darkness playtest that starts in a few weeks? It's another extraction shooter made by sw*des but dark fantasy and seems to be PVE only
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>>568855628
Nah, I'm waiting for Gaijins extraction shooter to release on Steam.
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>quest
>kill leaper
>riven tides doesn't have leapers according to this quest
How hard is it to change a line of text?
Lazy fucks.
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>>568855628
No switch 2 release? Already dead on arrival
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>>568851014
I fucking love the crazies. Usually it's just nigga this nigga that though. A lady on stella montis was singing to absolutely fucking no one in the empty halls just looting and it was heavenly.
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>>568855260
you sound so whiny
>buuuuh I used an item stupidly and now it's gone :L
does this game not have enough loot? is your weapon tab actually lacking for guns?
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>>568853012
Blue Gate cellar key is always horrible loot
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>>568860454
is that the one in blue gate, the purple?
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>try to do trios again after avoiding it for a long time
>dude, what are you doing? Your proximity chat is on
>what's the problem?
>other players can hear you! Turn it off?
>I'm a PvE player, I won't shoot other players and won't revive you if you get downed by other players
>both of them stop attacking arc
>Just watch me
>I tell them that they're pussies and that I would normally share the loot but since they're not even as sentient as a NPCs I won't
>fuck you, fag
>fuck yourself
>I leave and extract
>they get killed by other players
Thanks for reading my blog
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>>568861871
Blue key, it opens up a small dungeon at 'Trappers Glade'
not even 4 containers to loot, usually no weapons crate. If you get a blue item you're lucky
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>>568864923
There's another cellar over south of the farm, basically the same loot.
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>>568864923
>>568865175
never seen that key, crazy.
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>load into trios with a regular kit
>match starts in 10 seconds
>start queue with nothing on me
>takes 3 minutes to find a match
Yeah, embark, no gear-based matchmaking at all
kek
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>>568868483
Yeah they're 100% full of shit.

I guarantee they realized after that CEO interview how stupid it was to confirm that ABMM Was a thing. People instantly started gaming it, and it really soured discussion line desu

Crazy that they ever confirmed any of the behind-the-scenes details in the first place, but I think pointing out that Embark operates like complete amateurs is beating a dead horse
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>>568868483
inb4 that one guy starts losing his mind and calls you a schizo
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>>568868483
schizo
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>>568856995
>Hit another player by accident while fighting a leaper
>get sent to pvp lobbies
>do trios naked
>They get nothing from me
Long waiting times like >>568856995
said
>A normal guy
>Me
> And another guy with nothing
>The other naked dude instantly surrenders after seeing that's that i also have nothing
>3rd guy is mad as fuck the whole match
>no player activity
> We extract

Let's do another round trio
>Wait 5 minutes
>It puts me into a team with guy from the earlier match
Hilarious. Embark's matchmaking is trolling that other guy
He kept crying how it's a shameful that I don't have a shield
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>>568865175
didn't know about that one, thanks for info.
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yes
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>>568665124
The RASCAL fucking SUCKS
it's so shit
why the fuck does it deal less damage per hit than a hull cracker?
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>>568878282
are you serious
idk what the point of it is
its not even easy to get
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Getting out of pvp lobbies takes way longer than usual.
I want to do normal matriarch runs, fuck you, embark!
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>>568879197
yep
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>>568878282
well in any other game, a lower rarity weapon will be less good than a higher rarity weapon but make up for it by being cheaper and easier to acquire.

here, seeing as you can buy the hullcracker from the chinese lady, and the gun is hard to find, i have no fucking clue as to the purpose of the rascal
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>>568879285
Never using grenades again to fight big arc. Fucking hell.
The other guy was trying to hug it to death, I guess.
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>>568882168
one reason I stopped using deadlines basically
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>go to an area where you need a little bit of in-game parkour skills
>Emote and use proximity chat
>PvP retards kill you and can't get their loot
hilarious, but I'm still stuck in PvP hell, fuck you, Embark
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>>568886423
have you tried playing the game in such a way that you DON'T get killed?
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>>568878282
>>568880061
I like using the Rascal when running a low value load-out, solo farming Leapers/Bastions.
It's slow fighting and very boring but it's reasonably safe if you have cover.
I'm too much of a pussy to go out with HC or Legendary weapons even though i'm always in carebear lobbies
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>>568888628
I don't care about getting killed. You pvp jeets are all horrible, I'm barely moving and you retards miss all the time. I constantly extract as well. Imagine being this bad at the game
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>>568892163
lmao
Gottem
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rascal should be purchasable from tian wen
surely they see the mistake
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always funny
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not funny
cride
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bump
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it's time for /arg/ to end
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>>568915489
Maybe
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Rascal is good.
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>>568919576
I just think it should be available from the trader
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where do you find kinetic converters, I want one and realized I've never found one
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>>568919576
needs to be way more common but thats a general issue with a lot of the guns desu
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>>568921316
Its just a super rare item from any container you could feasibly find mods in. I found like 7 anvil splitters before finding a single converter.
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>>568921316
>>568925610
Also I think its only stella/tides.
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>>568919576
>>568922931
I found like 4 or 5 of them while carrying one when I used a key in Stella.

This gun is shit. The ammo is insanely expensive however unlike the hullcracker it doesn't always 2 shot weaker arcs like shredder and hornet. Hornet is the zapper one right? It's insane this thing needs like 3 or 4 shots on it.
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>>568927668
>Bro why isn't the blue gun stronger than the pink gun wtf
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>>568928831
It's already weaker in many respects. The drop off, it seems to miss way easier, the single shot before reloading, and it shoots way less rounds per minute.

It doesn't need to also only do 50% of the damage as a HC.
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>>568929346
just replace the hullcracker in the shop with it, idfk why it's there in the first place
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>>568929864
I'm not doing all these shitty quests every expedition to get the hull cracker
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>>568929346
>Bro why isn't the blue gun stronger than the pink gun wtf
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>>568930820
>top1 pve weapon in the game
hell yeah i would
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I dont think I like the renegade, its only good for small flying arc
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>still on a mission to lower my abmm
>let's go to stella
>naked runs
>solo against trios
>find wolfpack, seeker blueprint
>and a kinetic converter
>each on a different run
>can ping it to enrage the pvp tards
must've been 10 matches at least. I stopped counting after a a while.
All of this because I downed (not knocked out) one guy by accident.
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>>568930975
>>568928831
retard
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>>568935892
hard to blame when so many
>make everything op
faggots are around
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Dam Staff room my beloved.
This is how the blue and pink key rooms should look, no matter the modifier. I left some more stuff on the ground too.
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ye
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>>568943361
Beautiful haul fren
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>>568952290
thanks
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>Player count down 80%
>General languishing in page 8-10 purgatory
>Devs already moved on to their next game
>Every single big streamer stopped playing

It's a shame Embark fumbled this game so hard. It really had a lot of positive stuff going for it. Maybe if the pvp balance changes had come sooner, cheaters had been taken more seriously, event schedules fixed, more incentives for engaging with big arc, less time spent on silly game modes like beach combing or bird city...
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>>568955226
nerfing everything made a better game though
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>>568955226
assuming youre not baiting, everyone will be back when the big update hits. why are you worried? hopefully the new AC when it gets implemented for everyone will help, generally the balance changes are good and now the only thing that is left in a horrible state is the progression and the lack of endgame content.
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>>568955391
like the nerf to the il toro that made heavy shields useless?
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>>568958253
>lets keep this absolutely broken gun so the heavy shield can be kinda useful
youre dumb
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why do you guys still play this dead game?
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>>568958509
or how about the venator being nerfed because of cheaters 4 tapping everybody?
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>>568955391
>nerf bad when i lose
>nerf good when i win
>t. lolcow
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>>568958650
because its really fun to shoot people that think they're in a pve match
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>>568958964
>handgun deals sniper rifle levels of damage with quintuple the fire rate
yea, it was definitely cheaters...
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>>568962186
cherry on top, was lightweight and agile and could handle both arc and humans with ease.
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/vm/
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>>568955643
>big update hits
Anon, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the mythical "big update" isn't coming. We'll get a new map once every 6 months and that's it.
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>>568962186
>>568962462
oh you're just shitposting lol, my bad for assuming people actually played the game let alone did pvp that wasn't "sit in buried city southern station for 30 minutes"
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>>568927668
>like 3 or 4 shots on it.
yeah, you should use it for bigger arc,only, it's a waste using it on Firefly, Hornet and Wasps
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>>568959398
their own fault desu
around blacks, never relax
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>>568962186
>venator does more damage to wasps than a bettina
make it make sense
>>
A Guild/Clan system with private lobbies for when the Emperor becomes available to destroy
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>>568972493
im not shitposting the torro and venator needed to be nerfed, dumb to say otherwise
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>>568968713
>but the mythical "big update" isn't coming.
erm but it is
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>>568972493
>t. pvecuck retard
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>>568974424
it doesn't, it fires 2 separate projectiles at a time meaning 1 can hit a weakpoint while the other doesn't creating the illusion of it doing more damage when you're just blind enough to not notice.
>>
veem
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I heard the trials next week are super gay
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>>568685626
I figure my 5 would be seeker/Bettina/Anvil/Survivor/Deadline. Im considering Tempest/Bobcat but I dont really PvP.
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>>568685626
waiting 1 expedition to even see if they're permanent
otherwise I don't feel like buying them every expedition and I'll just get an alt
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So why does the surgeon skin attract PVP players?
I get the shiesty.
But why the surgeon?
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>>568995604
Probably the lame amount of irony. Attracts a lot of rats too.
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>>568995604
probably to do with it being a free outfit from the decks
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>>568982343
still, its underwhelming how many shots a Betina needs to destroy the rotor of smaller arc, Ferro and Renegade do it in 1 shot
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>>568996956
Bettina is really good now, probably better than the Anvil imo.
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>benches done
>scrappy done
>expedition done
now what?
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maybe we should unironically migrate after this thread? thoughts?
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>>569000897
you stop playing the game for 30+ days until it's time to do it all over again

>>569004440
might as well go on /vm/
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>3 damage tasks that will be cheesed to kingdom come
not feeling it
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>>569016481
forgot visual aid
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>>569016568
>damage melee
would a queen or matriarch be an option? or does melee pull aggro?
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>>568997338
epic machine gun arguably slightly better than a green gun
They made it so I can do decent damage when I have my poor gear so pvpers only get greens and whites from my body?
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Will they allow bigger groups to coordinate attacks on an Emperor if they introduce those to the game?
Is gonna be a massive shitshow if it's just random groups of 3 with a couple rats hanging back
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my anti-rat loadout
Any suggestions?
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>>569016568
these are gay
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>>569019289
you go to Stella Montis and melee the shredders and pops
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>>569020426
sounds more dangerous than hitting a big ARC thats aggro'd by someone
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>>569020113
just uh, win the fight?
i don't see the point in doing meme shit that's mildly annoying at best
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>>569020594
the big arc will step on you
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>>569020671
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>>569020426
thanks, I never go Stella, didnt know about all the balls and little spiders around
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>"you can do trials on any map"
>go do a normal buried city and search every computer
>
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>>569022832
the hospital and space travel have tons of computers, just enough for 1 star?
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>>569023325
yep its like 160 points per

I search space travel, the building next to it, hospital, and even hit like 3 field depots for 1 computer each
someone said there were computers in library but I couldn't find any, and even if there were, it wouldnt be enough to 3 star

might have just been bad RNG, but you probably have to do this during night raid/hurricane/whatever just so more of the containers "spawn"
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>>569016568
>>569023325
holy shit
and spotters are 180 points
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>>569023747
>spawn late
>people already farming spotters
at least its damage based
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>shoot bastion with renegade and anvil, takes forever
>has 7 bastion core, never seen that much
>looking for extract
>it's 300m away 38 seconds before map timer runs out
>miss train by a couple seconds
>thinking of looting materials for a hatch key
>die by self-knockout
kinda lame, would have rather got killed by some arc mechanic
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>>569020113
M8 thats just a "some ass keeps shooting at me from across the map" troll loadout.
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>>569036249
Riven Tides sniping wasps/hornets/firefly
I never shoot first, pve purist
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>page 10
nice, the faggot that loves nerfing everything got what he wanted
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>>569046749
It's not even the nerfs, there's just nothing to do. Game has no competitive framework so all the pvp players left, and pve players don't have a reason to log on after they finish all the content in the first week post wipe
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>>569049826
this. even if there was a proper path of progression, there just is not very much to progress to. after you finish your benches and scrappy, you BP hunt. but BP hunting is ass because its all rng and you need to wait for certain events to have a chance at finding them. thats not too fun. not other real meaningful resource sinks outside the bench and scrappy.
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>carebear lobby
>get blown up by balls in metro hallway
>crawling to safety
>raider already inside
>call out to him
>he spots me
>goes inside and closes the door
I thought rats was the worst people I could encounter
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>>569000897
Your vault, bro?
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>>569049826
I brought up in the past that pvp also got nerfed from all the changes - no dailies, lower value loadout pvp is not as viable, and would benefit from having some kind of fleshing out. A cult faction that worships the robots would be cool, not like they still couldnt kill each other too.
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>>569046749
nobody cares about the nerfs nigga, people come and go with content
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>>569056251
It's sad because incentivizing pvp isn't even hard. They could make zero real changes beyond adding a per expedition kills leaderboard and I bet there'd be a significant bump in player count.
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>>569027157
>kill bombadier with 3 minutes left
>"This is fine"
>I can definitely loot it in that-
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>wtf
>its a firefly
>run inside before it nukes me
>shoot it once or twice
>another one comes
>fuckfuckfuck
>try to kill the second one
>my shot flies off and aggros a hornet
>now got 2 fireflies and a hornet trying to kill me
>and then a wasp starts shooting inside trying to hit me
>finally look at the time
>20 seconds left
>WTF
>run to the train like 30 seconds away
>die
>never got to loot my bombadier
luckily I was only using hullcracker as the most expensive thing that match, so I'm not too pissed about losing it, I would have been furious if it was my jupiter, but I probably wouldn't have had a problem killing arc if I did
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>>569052718
I'm always scared of alerting someone that I'm downed, I've been finished off too many times by black guys who smack their lips and see my jupiter
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>>569052718
every carebear is a rat in disguise, they merely pretend to be nice because it's "the norm"
they will whine and scream the second they get shot for stealing
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>>569022832
>sweatlord only gets like 4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBtrzMdaF60
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>>569062759
Jewish projection
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this spotter trial is so gay
>killing spotters
>someone kills the bombadier
>"Needed the cells for the trader"
I DONT CARE ASAHOLE
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>knock two rotors off rocketeer
>see someone throw a heat grenade while its on the ground
>oh shit, i hope this guy doesnt rat my rocketeer
>see him run to the rocketeer to rat
>starts looting
>dont want to have him stuff the drive in his safe pocket or argue that he deserves the drive because he threw one seeker nade at it
>kill him
>he starts calling me a rat and throwing a bitch fit
fuck you, have some manners, if i help a guy kill a big arc, i dont rat his shit thinking i deserve half of it, especially a rocketeer which usually only has one drive. why are people like this?
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>>569070245
yea its really fucking annoying, like dude, you shot my rocketeer with some shitty bullets
at least use a real gun or grenade launcher

I like buried city because I go to the opposite side of the house I'm in and shoot the rocketeer from there, and it gets further away from the other guy

I'd say most of the time they are cool, but some people are so desperate for cores
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>>569069292
It's convenient that he doesn't care what you need either.
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>>569071151
I guess thats why some people just straight up get 0 stars on trials and dont try
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>>569070649
>I like buried city because I go to the opposite side of the house I'm in and shoot the rocketeer from there, and it gets further away from the other guy
smart.
yeah its so obnoxious when people think theyre entitled to half your big arc kill when they shoot one anvil shot straight into its body armor. luckily doesnt seem to have thrown me into pvp lobbies immediately but ill play cheap loadouts for a couple more rounds.
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>>569072168
devs said it should take a couple matches of killing people now

people still say they get sent to super hell if they shoot someone, but who knows
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glad I got 2 star on spotter trial, but how the fuck are you supposed to 3 star it, you constantly have other people trying to kill the bombadier, or kill the spotters themselves for their trial
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>>569072525
idk i play pretty passively and my trio got wiped out by murder hobos on sight back to back while trying to be friendly, that just seems to be the theme
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>>569072525
>people still say they get sent to super hell if they shoot someone, but who knows
yeah who knows
>>569073697
trios are heavily skewed to pvp
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>>569073795
The pvp is trash and only kept alive by fags that can't play something where it's fair for both parties
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>>569075431
>pvp is trash
it's a game about dumpster diving so it fits
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>>569073660
I got mine on blue gate near old fort which was pretty easy.
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>>569078258
I tried this morning and someone was already doing it, but I'll try it again
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>>569068943
>defenseless and entitled
The outcome is extremely predictable.
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>>569081229
based. were you able to get the core off him or did he shove it up his ass?
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>>569081372
i got the core
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>>569081229
If Embark wasn't retarded, shooting somebody who's actively looting an arc that you did the overwhelming majority of the damage to wouldn't effect your abmm.

Oh well, maybe they'll add it in a future update (they won't(even if they do they'll continue to make the same mistakes in their next game))
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this computer trial is ridiculuous
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>still getting pvp players in my lobbies
>one guy sniping me
>another guy with a shotgun downs me
>he's bad at the game and gets downed by a firefly
This is happening at least 30 matches after I downed a guy by accident.
Incredible
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>>569086385
computer, make all these raiders gay and horny
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>>569086385
holy shit
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>>569086385
>>569089243
probably a locked bunker on spaceport type of beat
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>>569091660
i think that only has 2 computers
its just RNG I guess since I did that during stella night
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>have died because of other players 3 matches in a row
>still in pvp lobbies
>so aggressive that none of them use emotes or voice chat and kill downed players near extract
I'm not just in slightly aggressive lobbies I'm in Somalia. Fucking goddamn.
I don't get it
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>>569094198
I guess thats what people mean by pvp hell
wonder if you can just hide for awhile and hatch out
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>>569086385
help computer
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>>569094390
I don't know what to do. I waited until the last second to extract on blue gate and one guy jumped in to knock me out. He shot me. He extracted with me and didn't get my loot (I had absolutely nothing on me, but he didn't know that)
I crawled in there. So he was happy stopping me to extract with potential items that I might have had.
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>>569094390
I'm hiding all the time. The game is maybe registering that as "camping until a player shows up"
I'm just opening containers and wandering around the map.
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>>569094198
>>569094390
>>569095680
>>569096178
Whenever I defib and bandage other players it seems to send me back to co-op lobbies pretty consistently
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>>569096178
>>569097154
i did see a guy doing this in another one of my matches
>just wandering around
>"GET BACK HERE"
>stop moving
>"GOT YOU"
>he bandages me
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>>569097154
Harvester is up and people are getting sniped while having Jupiters. Nobody has defibs. Very strange lobbies
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Did one of you just die in the storm on Blue Portal with a hullcracker? If so I have your items if you would like them back.
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>>569094390
They specifically said doing nothing in matches doesn't really work. That anon will have to do a lot of PVE/helping others to leave.
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>>569099603
>Bring defibs.
>Absolutely no one goes down.
>Don't bring defibs.
>8+ player flares go off.
It's like the matchmaking knows.
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>>569100292
I was fighting arc and then I lost two kits in a row, very cheap ones mind you. But still annoying.
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>>569094198
do you play in oceania or something? never experienced such severe whiplash, even before they supposedly changed the matchmaking a week ago.
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We have this discussion every thread I swear to God

ABMM works ON TOP OF sbmm. If you're getting killed, it's probably because you're in higher elo "friendly" lobbies, where a good portion of the players are only temporary carebears. To get back to true friendly lobbies, initiate fights and lose horribly a few times, THEN do half a dozen full pacifist runs. You will be back in chungartha without fail.
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well at least I got 2 stars on spotters and computers I guess, fucking dogshit trials this week man
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>>569062405
Bro why is EVERYtime a black person?
They're also the ones that will spam in proxy chat going "you friendly?" while mowing you down with a venator.
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>>569104718
idfk this game makes me racist sometimes
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>people already the spotters by the time I get to the bombardier
>or people just kill the bombardier
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>>569101982
US. I don't geolock my shit though. I let it pick whatever.
Had finally a good harvester run. I think I'm back.
>Regular run on dam, completely friendly lobby
I'm back in chungus town.
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well this is probably the best I'm going to get
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>>569104718
It's dey culcha
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is security breach good? idk how to spec or what's good
mostly play with squads cause i am baby.
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>>569115198
Extra loot is always good and it's even better if you find one in a key room
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>>569115198
its pretty useful, sometimes can find wolfpacks in there or decent guns, also has decent stuff to salvage
like I'll usually grab the Broken Tazer, since it salvages for batteries
guns are nice for turning into gun parts
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>>569115198
>>569115367
oh yea, also has light/medium/heavy gun parts in sometimes
or that "broken gun" item you can salvage for like 3 gun parts
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>>569115451
>>569115367
>>569115356
thanks anons gonna work it into a spec
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how's this look cuz i dont have any of those extra points from the big project thing
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>>569115490
i mean most of the good green stuff is in teh first part of the tree, like shields and faster breach. whats good after that, the faster downed crawl and health?
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>>569116165
that looks pretty meta
in red tree, people opt for "3 deep breaths" over the mule one, so they'll put 1 point in mule, and 5 in 3 deep breaths, basically t makes it so when you run out of stamina, it recovers a few seconds faster, so you can do stuff like
>run out of stamina
>2.5 seconds pass
>can sprint dodge roll with the tiny stamina you recovered
I think without it it's 5 seconds before you can
doesn't seem like a lot but its definitely saved my ass a lot, and I definitely noticed not having it while releveling from the expedition
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>>569116228
nta but the other meta green ones are Loaded Arms that makes your weapons half weight, and the perk before it that drops stuff when you breach, like springs
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>>569116165
Pretty good, you dont need to max out stubborn mule when you already have strong back its just better to not be overencumbered.
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>>569116632
i see i see, making that change now
>>569116871
is 3/5 stubborn mule fine then like the other anon suggested?

also, should i really keep 2 points into that dodge roll stamina cost or put it somewhere else?
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>>569116968
this one i mean
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>>569116968
>>569117147
just 1/5 for stubborn mule, just to get to 3 deep breaths
and not the anon you're asking, but thats a pretty good perk, the meta there is only putting 3 points in it, so 2 is probably decent
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>>569117147
Depends how much PvP you do.
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>30 minutes to go
>kill arc, loot stuff etc.
>15 minutes to go
>somebody sneaks up from behind to jump right in front of me when i shoot something
>one 1 shot hits him
> I heal him
>Inventory full, but let's see if it matters if I stay
>defib a guy in the same round
>doesn't matter
>back in Somalia again
A sliding scale alright
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>>569117225
i cant do 1/5 stubborn mule unless i do something else at 5/5 in the red tree i think
>>569117287
i'm not kill crazy but i fight a bit, probably like, 6/10 matches i go for pvp
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>>569117548
ohh, I didn't see you had 3/5 in 3deepbreaths already

heres my tree
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when it says maintain that rank is that like a weekly thing? those trials?
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...not yet...
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>>569131573
Just let it die

I say this with sorrow, not malice. I really really love what Embark did with Arc raiders. But they miserably failed to iterate on their initial success in any meaningful way. We'll see small burst of players returning with Major updates, but the opportunity to turn Arc in to an industry staple has passed
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>>569132219
>he herbed
you are part of the problem
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>harverster on dam
>fully kitted loadout (hullcracker, ammo + 2 shields, rechargers, green bandages)
>spawn 10 minutes away from the queen (pic related)
what the fuck, this shit is not fun at all
>get to the queen, start fighting her
>3 or so solos join in
>one guy deadlnes her a couple times
>queen goes down
>suddenly 15 more raiders appear out of thin air, ready to steal the cores that they did NOTHING for
genuinely what is the best course of action in this case? I can't just start blasting
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Kieselstein_OG#0873
I'll present the survivor blueprints.
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>>569086315
abmm is gay and so are you
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>>569119825
yea, you basically have to have whatever rank you want on the final week of trials
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>>569141847
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>>569019567
Shut up gay faggot slave
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>>569142073
I am not a gay faggot.
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>>569148602
but are a slave?
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>>569141847
cool
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>>569138197
>abmm promotes thievery as everyone shivers for their karma points
tell me about it
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dead game
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"Sing once again with me, our strange duet. My power over you grows stronger yet."
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>12 more slots for purchase
>400 fucking thousands
>you need ~40 slots to hold that amount of shit in the first place
what's the point again



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