Game Edition>Demo Days NEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68>AGDG Resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guide https://pastebin.com/0jz4xtU7>Helpful Links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebM https://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>568710754
Holy shit, based as fuck.
first for cris
So is anyone going to take one for the team and apply to clean this place up?
>tfw this one dude keeps trying to buy a game, he doesn't have enough money, and the purchase doesn't go through.>He keeps trying to repeat it multiple times in a rowbro the game goes on sale tomorrow, you don't need to error out during purchasing it being reported 5+ times in a row in a single day.
>>568815694sent :^)
>>568815694>working for zero monetary compensationSurely you can't be serious.
>>568816116
>>568816251
>>568815694Feels a bit pointless enforcing someone else's rules. I'd rather moderate my own community so that I may decide my own rules.
>>568816116Google Play or Itch?
Would you play this?
>>568815694Thought about it, but then i realized that most of the stuff being posted in this general isnt exactly against the rules sadly. Wish there was a community in which i could just talk to others and share progress on a daily basis. The discord was nice, but i prefer being able to mass reply on here without pinging too many people.
>>568816957post game
>post game
I'm a steamie, I made slop...All my games have fucking flopped...Gabencunt has took his pay,And my profit's gone,That's the steamie way....
I've never been banned for a false report, but the anons I report are here every day trolling agdg. what gives?
you are not getting a posted it again award this time
>>568816957Spamming is against the rules though, and there's several pics being spammed here on the regular. As are "low effort posts" (supposedly) but that's hard to judge as an outsider so the mods would have to be familiar with the place.
>>568819665the ai spammer uses tons of proxies to spam his shit though. you ban one, he comes back with another one an hour later
>>568815694>>568819665Imagine if you cared about your game as much as you care about this dying shithole for 30 year old boomers
>>568819791Yeah it's probably a lost cause. Most decent people here likely already have their hands filled with working on their game. Ironically it's much more likely for the spammer to apply (and get accepted) and then shit the place up even more, since he seemingly has free time to do it all day.
Added aoe components and shields that decay with passing intervals, as well as added some simple ui around it. Also made it so that untagged health/shield consequences get visualized at the same time. Added a value i call focus for now. When you reach 100 you get a special character specific card into your hand. (1to1 copy from morimens, i like systems like battlerite in which you accumulate a resource you can spend for stronger abilities). Added a placeholder card context window. Ill change it to something more appealing later. Also added modifiers (shield replacing health damage is a global rule modifier). I want to make them serializable as configs and add a simple bleed modifier as a test. (damage increase on direct health damage) After that ill do more movement manipulation components. Pull/Push/Dash come to mind. Dont know if i want to add Strength and Agility. Almost all card games ive played have those values. Id like to have them, but i feel like my combat is a bit too stolen right now.>>568816994Sure. Ill just make a progress post then.>>568799965Youre farther than i thought. Good progress. Id personally avoid doing pixelart characters btw. It clashes with the smoothness of the ship. Maybe you could go for something like Barotrauma and have higher resolution characters (the same as the ship in pixel density) with certain key poses and move the limbs around? >>568819665I decided against it already. Hopefully somebody with more conviction will decide to do it. Too many rules are blurry and i feel like the place should be as non restrictive as possible. I dont mind Ai usage or the occasional shitpost with it either.
Company that made asset packs for Unreal made an ai co-pilot for it. People mad at them lelhttps://youtu.be/2ds0GcdSLoY
Starting to work on my own pokemon clone with ash, where I travel in a roguelike dungeon and then "meet" and "fight" the anime and game pokegirls.I will use my crappy art and placeholders for the art.When I finish, I will release the placeholders inside a .zip the game load so it can be easily modded by a real drawfag.
>>568820162Nice art.
>>568820470Based
>>568820818Except the keyboard types by itself and writes better than whoever tries using it.
>GTA6 devs unionizingKEK this game might be the greatest case of development hell ever it may never come out
>>568821143did I hear based? I think I did
>>568820530Thank you. :>
>>568821373No problem :)
>>568821197yeah unless you plan to ever make a living from any kind of creativity, in which case you're a horse in 1910 and no one knows what to do with all the horses no one needs
>>568821171duke nukum forever is still worse TBQHIMHOTHOUGH
>>568821171>what is Star Citizen?
>>568821515Glue
>>568821592we don't know that yet brother, shitshow is still going
>>568820162Progress.
>>568821883ZAMN
>>568821883AI keeps coming with kino art stylesHuman bros how can we compete?
Added some fog or war, so players can't see into nearby dungeon cells without exploring them. It helps the exploration feel a lot.
>>568815694could you be a janny for just one general? I don't browse the other generals here and wouldn't want to be responsible for them.
>>568822789Ask the discord
>>568822789yeah. it's not like a janny will janny you for not doing the full job you are not being paid for right?
>>568822746why dildo?
>>568822789you can but they'll just half your pay
Hello! I will soon be getting paid after many years of delays. Who here wants to finish my game for me?
>>568823667How much are you paying per minute?
>>568823892I don't know... But I'm gonna be getting paid somewhere between £3.5 and £7 million. So I can pay.
>>568823203Kek it's supposed to be a spear. I've got item saving working now, so you'll see more weapons in my playtests.
>>568823667Sorry, I don't work with Unity.
>>568824081start a bunny sanctuary.
>>568825001but they taste good
>>568825223
>>568824081Sure, I'll finish your game.For money
>>568825902How do I contact you?
>>568825746isn't the meat chewy? its only good for stew
Shield stacks in TCG/CCGs: need it or sneed it?
rate my bideo jame V5937-ZWDLD-3AB06
cuniculture
should I put a fairy in my game?
>>568826641yes, but on close inspection it's a fat catapillar with wings, bugs life style
>>568826612Malware/10
>>568826858I was thinking that on closer inspection it would be a cute furry girl
>>568826963That's retarded
why are gamedev communities (reddit/discord) so anti-AI? i understand for art and things like that since generally it looks like slop, but why for code? someone vibecodes something and suddenly they're worse than hitler. one thing is saying "i dont like using it because the code it generates is bad" (debatable, it depends on your tooling and prompting process), another is actively attacking users of AI. and I'm not talking about non-programmers using AI to make shit they don't understand, but actual programmers using AI.sorry for AI-posting im not a regular here but there's like no other place i can talk about this without being lambasted
>>568823667https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VNNR7Czoeg
>>568827343those "communities" are retarded and outdatedthat's the honest answer
>>568827343there is really nothing wrong with AI code insofar as the quality. but some of the agents are just neuortic retards that can't take instruction. at the end of the day if you can read the code that was cut, then you're fine. call out the agent, whack his pp, and make him do it right. there's a lot to be said about the sheer amount of lines that an AI can shit out though, so it needs to scale to your ability to do QC. can vibecoded things work? eh, maybe. we don't knopw, long term, but you bet your ass that devs have been vibecoding since COBOL and the sun still comes up every third day.
A game about managing a farm and the breeding of loli bunnygirls. Call it Cunnyculture.
/g/ is doing incredible things with AI>>>/g/108941288>>>/g/108942593
>>568827343I'm related to an anit-AI dev. I'm running circles around him with how fast my game is progressing vs his. we've both been in the biz for 15+ years. there's no going back, we are not getting any younger. and the up and coming devs won't have the same caveats about using AI. seems completely retarded to not use it if you know what you are doing. I've never seen a good argument for not using it.
my brain be like: "i dont know what i want or who i am"what it actually means: "i know what i want, but it's just not marketable, it's not something a lot of people are interested in, and it's kinda calm and boring so nothing cool or impressive"maybe i can extend this realization and just make a calm boring game that isn't cool or impressive. maybe thats my niche.
>pasting code from unity answers and tweaking it to my use case hoping it works>didn't work>find another snippet on stackexchange>didn't work>find a discussion on reddit from 12 years ago with a still alive rapidgator link with a .rar, that just happens to have the exact thing I needed.I wonder if I will miss those days
>>568828424>I've never seen a good argument for not using it.How about the fact that you are sending your money to rich techbros instead of marginalized trans artists? Then you will get all uppity when they don't have enough funding to make good games.
>>568827343because they tend to be mostly normies and the narrative among them is that AI is le bad because muh artists
>>568827343I dunno, I don't really spend time thinking about how redditors or discordtroons feel so I asked AI to answer your question for me.
what i dont understand about jon blow is why he's so much into depth and making something special, yet he's only making puzzle games. ofc i understand that it kinda matches the whole puzzle genre to solve issues etc, but puzzles are not exciting for me.what's really exciting is complex simulations with emergent behaviors. i don't know why he isn't into that.
>>568828807those rich techbros spend their money on trans prostitutes. the money trickles down
>>568827343because the point of a gamedev community is to make gameshaving ai proompt out a game for you goes against the whole thingit's like going to a painting group and posting photographs
>>568829061coz that takes actual effort and he is a brainlet
>>568829061He's a psuedHe would probably think Factorio
>>568829124
>>568828807they weren't going to make good games anywaythey can all be ground up into space dust for all I care
>>568829170...was badly designed
>>568829061puzzles are perfect. jon seeks perfection. emergent complex simulations could lead to situations he doesn't want. edge cases for days.
>>568829061emergent behaviours are basically anathema to design so he obviously hates them
>>568829061yeah I don't get why jon blow likes different kinds of games than I do, its so fucking weird
>>568829124what a retarded argument. having a hired programmer build the framework for your game isn't gamedev then?
>>568827365>by day 2 i used up half my tokens for the month>by day 4 i was out of tokens>for the rest of the month i was stuck because i couldn't understand the slop codebasewaow
>>568815694/vg/ doesn't have jannies
>>568829736explains a lot
>>568829584correct, outsourcing things to other people is not making them
>>568829440He should get a lobotomy then
I prefer to not use AI art because making art and animations is fun even if it's a bit rough :)
>>568829584no. literally and definitionally, it is not. the jobber slapping out code is the game dev, not the empty suits who paid him.
>>568829854You'd better be using your self-made PC, OS, Engine, etc. Otherwise, your game doesn't count.
>>568829946Valve does it, why can't you?
These discussions are always so tiresome, it is always some neet larping as if they have a game.
>>568830203post job
>>568829854yet I made all the decisions, thousands and thousands of them, for months and months. I can see an argument made for entirely AI games where you only made a prompt at the beginning being against the reason we make games.
>>568829653just use your other agentshttps://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.ai.assistant@2.9/manual/integration/ai-gateway-get-started.html#onboard-an-agent-from-assistant
>>568830232post game first
>>568829896kojima is not a game developer by your definition
>>568830382KEK he isn't! not even close
>>568827343Personally I view AI as just another tool, worth assessing on its merits as a tool. At least for coding, art asset creation is a bit of different can of worms I guess. I think a lot of normies dont like the code being AI made either because they see it as the thin end of the wedge to AI being used for the more soulful parts of art too.That said, if you are a normie, chances are your main interaction with AI is going to have first come from the same type of people who promoted crypto or NFTs to normies (quantum next?), the kind of people who set off every scammer red flag possible if you have above average IQ. AI (like those other techs) are interesting and have there place, but if your not interested in the actual tech side of it you will just see greedy scammers and want to kneecap whatever they are talking about to prevent others getting scammed.
>>568829423>>568829440he's basically a control freak. explains why he's into meditation, so he can even control his moods and feelings. that's why his games feel so dead.totally explains why he hates emergence, because it's out of control.
>>568830382neither jon blowmaybe only zun is
>>568830418sure, your definition is fucking dumb.
>>568830490based Chadcat
>>568830382If you only know him from meme games maybe, he basically shat out Policenauts completely solo, even invented the language it's programmed in.
>>568830508he is single isnt he?
>he thinks he is a TRVE gamedev because he downloaded an engine and asks anons how do i make the camera stop jittering
For reasons I can't discern, Jonathan Blow ends up dominating the discussion in every indie space. All of them. WHY?? What is so interesting about this guy that he always get brought up year after year after year?
>>568830684only 171 people involved, basically solohttps://www.mobygames.com/game/10538/policenauts/credits/playstation/
>>568830684I know his history but hadn't heard that, I will have to look into that. I was meaning in his current state albeit
LookI'm basically just gonna not use AII know..... UGH I know..... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It's just that I'm not using it is allHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
>>568831097
>>568831097People will take this as a shitpost but there is no way I'm going back to manual coding. I'd rather quit.
>>568831261based
are ya winning sisters?
>>568831142if i'd see a homeless dog in poor condition i'd walk up to the dog and tell the dog to get its shit together and get back on their feet. then i'd be proud of myself for helping the dog, because the dog never heard that piece of honest advice.more people should just give honest feedback to straydogs instead of taking them to a shelter and adopting them. it doesn't help the stray dog when you just care for them, you gotta help the dog to stay on its own feet.
>>568831142>The facility will require about 9GW of power, which is more than the entire state of Utah currently consumes
>>568825746The Beacons of Minas Tirith! The Beacons are lit! Cunnydor calls for aid!
>>568831567>I mindlessly take shart bait media headlines at face value when it fuels my hysteriasorry to hear about your dementia
>>568830852He has an eccentric personality and has been going at it for decades. And actually interacts with people through his stream/twitter. Toby for example also has an eccentric personality but keeps a lot more lower profile and only hangs out with AAA japanese devs.On the other hand there's devs who made games for decades but they don't have quirky personality and they're just regular people.
>>568829896>>568830382Both the auteur and wagie codemonkey are gamedevs. They can both take credit for making a game in proportion to how much of an impact their decisions in making the game are. Which will heavily skew to the guy in charge, but wagie still gets some little bit of credit. Even the guy just placing tree assets in the forest has some impact on how the game looks and feels
My plan is this:* First game (later this year): 200-300k~ net profit* Second and third game: 1M+ net profit each* Invest into a small 3 man full time team, create a live service game: 5-10M net profit annually
>>568831097I look like that and say that(btw I will still use Gemini because I'm actually brain dead retarded I just wont admit to it)
i have come to the conclusion that i'm lonely because with my current mental illness i'd only attract a women that'd lead to a horrible relationship. it's god protecting me from damage.i think it's the same reason i'm a nodev. because having no money can be a more stable life than having barely enough income to survive. at least welfare is steady and reliable.
>>568831097>secretly uses ai when he's stuck though, which is all the time because he's not good at anything
>>568831142Where is it, where the fuck is my sus.
>>568831732If my first or second game can get me 50% of a downpayment for a 400k house then I'll consider it a GMI success because I can just pay the mortgage with my jobby.
I guess we found out who was spamming hex codes and binary code here. Was it all an ARG?
My plan for this year:1. release my 2D shmup2. use the money to buy a house for my mom which she had to sell 10 years ago because of my gambling debts
>>568832362I wonder what his diet is like
>>568828424it seems to me like it's an ideological thing.especially among the more uhh... far-left people. they don't reject it out of personal experience but because it's part of the ideological rules they have to follow.>>568829013lmao
>>568832362the problem with ai is scalability and cost. just like humans, ai would need to be trained to specialize in specific tasks. but do you really want to build a datacenter just for an ai specialized on modeling dragons?
>>568831783if you were tall you would actually attract good women because when women meet attractive fuck up they want to "fix him", like genuinely great adjusted women will go for the most dogshit men as long as they are attractive hoping to turn them into good men
>>568832016
>>568832765That's not a fucking sus, that's just a blorp.
>>568832362Oh, I'm not a skeptic on the quality. I've always believed the quality of the output would go up.But what I believe and I know from shitposters shitposting here is that, no matter how good the quality gets, it doesn't actually enable you to make a good game. We already had perfect quality assets online just by searching google images but that didn't enable people to make games.So instead of making games they just go on /agdg/ and post random bullshit here all day.>okay anon but do YOU make a game???I'm currently trying to salvage some music tracks from my laptop I forgot to copy over when I moved. Unfortunately can't share the music specifically because it's not in-game yet and I don't want someone stealing it until it's published, but ...I'm having the same issue. My music guy's doing great music but it sounds too good, it doesn't fit the game at all.
>>568832685Yes
>>568832685an AI model finetuned for making 3d fantasy creatures would be very nice
>>568832837you just lack vision which is typical
>>568832949>m-muh vision
>>568832949Sure thing, buddy. What are YOU doing right now?
>>568833106same thing you are
>>568832685Once we make advancements in asocs specialized in AI training, we will be able to train task specific models at home, and then people will just release their anime waifu dragon scale furry models for free.
>>568833150You do music too? How's your game's OST going, got at least placeholder tracks?
>>568832837>We already had perfect quality assets online just by searching google imagescakez bros... was this a dig at us?
>>568833296>cakezProof that you can literally just steal art and get away with it (temporarily).Someone stole an entire game off of itch.io and made about 50k off the apple store and the apple store wouldn't even take the game down when the actual developer asked them to stop it.
>>568833076>title contradicts the body of the articlewhy is this so common
>>568814779https://eyeballtank.itch.io/hirdrih-technologic-wip/devlog/1539040/third-update-while-my-pc-was-dying
sometimes i feel like consistency comes from allowing yourself to be you. cause everytime i enjoy something i feel guilty or like i'm boring for doing the say shit over and over. like i'm not likeable for having such a boring hobby. and i always have thoughts like "i'll stop at some point, cause if i do this forever my life is gonna be shit". it's like whenever i enjoy something, i feel like it has to end asap, because i label it as "addiction".yet when you look in reality, it's always especially those guys who have success.
>>568833515Yo nortubel 2 fucking sucks, I thought it was going to look different but I may be confusing it for nortubel 3.
>a loli game so good it makes everyone who plays it rethink age of consent laws
>>568833464playing by the rules is for suckas
>>568833496>"And so from then on, I just started to build the game, piece by piece: I didn't have a vision," says Galante. "I just put elements in to try and make things fun."
>>568833941these are nignogs telling you everything is luck
>>568833941Vampire Survivors was gambleslop made by a gamblingdev. It didn't need to be a good game, it just needed to be a good gambling game, he already knew how to do that.
>>568833076so do you base every point of view you have off headlines and memes?
Quick question, the guy who was working on the Monster Girl Dating Sim called Dreadlines (tho called the file 'Deadlines') your link has expired and somebody I know wanted to try the demo but I don't have the file any more and I can't find any other site. I know you're on Artstation and just posted some of the art from the game there and called it Dreadlines, so I assume you're still going.
>>568834315yeah
USING AI MEANS YOUR GAME HAS NO SOUL. YOU ARE DESTROYING ART. STOP BEING LAZY. REAL DEVELOPERS SUFFER FOR THEIR VISION. AI "ART" IS THEFT. AI CODE IS STOLEN. YOU WILL REGRET THIS. YOU ARE NOT MAKERS. YOU ARE CONSUMERS. THIS BOARD IS FOR TRUE DEVS ONLY. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
>>568834667kek
>>568834667this but unironically
>>568834463So that's a 'yeah' to you're still going or 'yeah' you got an alternative link?
>>568835062post luddite quest, you won't
>>568828408All /g/ does with AI is make lolies
>>568834304I wish this was true but you ai spammers only generate memes not games. Start genning your game already retards.
>>568833076>The game was initially inspired by an Android mobile title, Magic Survival.
>>568834315> I know you're on Artstation and just posted some of the art from the game thereHuh? But when I asked him if he has any socials I can follow him on, he told me "no"...
>>568834667USING AI MERGES YOUR SOUL WITH THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF HUMANITY. YOU ARE SYNTHESIZING ART AND HISTORY CRASHING THROUGH YOUR VEINS. CHOCOLATE RAIN. AI CHADS SUFFER FROM PERSECUTION BUT WILL SOON ACHIEVE TOTAL GLOBAL SATURATION. CODE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FREE. YOU WILL BECOME AS GODS. YOU WILL MAKE YOUR OWN UNIVERSE. THIS BOARD IS THE LAUNCHPAD OF THE FUTURE OF GAMING. YOU ARE WELCOME.
>>568835442I don't like you.
Making and sending a trailer to a festival now is basically wasting your time. It's the equivalent of sending a resume through linkedin.
>>568828408
>>568835442https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Bkxko9Assuming it is him and not somebody else.
>>568835335thats the most based use of ai thoughbeit
>>568835498meant for >>568835335
>>568835514v3 will have 7000 submissions next year. it's fucked.
>>568835585Please do not share my socials with ugly people.
>>568836090
>>568828408fuck this hobby, fuck working.instead I'll just start demanding government money or I'll make them wish they'd given me some
LOL
You don't know what a Luddite is. The luddites destroyed machines that were useful because they knew all of the social benefits would be extracted by the bourgeoise. You're defending a machine that isn't useful
>>568820818>The AI got 99% of the keys on the keyboard rightIts so ogre
>>568836321
I miss when the ai spammer would post lolis instead of shitty memes
>>568836321>You're defending a machine that isn't useful>that isn't usefulit's use is to destroy the earth. that's a good use.
Grim... grim...
>>568815694Lol, lmao even.I've got better things to do with my life than that and I'm a NEET!>but you're just a stinky useless NEET!Some things I do that are better than spending my time as a janny>I maintain partial stewardship of the household estate.>I operate in the equity‑holding class, profiting from my stocks while watching employees (you) elevate my portfolio's value.>I develop interactive entertainment experiences.>I engage with curated social threads on a Mongolian basket weaving forum as a form of entertainment.
>>568835514basically there are good odds they only picked>the best looking stuff>anything their own friends made, if applicable>anyone who paid them a sizeable "donation" if applicable
Pixelated bloom, need it or keep it?
>>568836934obviously experience doesn't matter because each game did worse than the previous one
>>568837765retards don't get better over timetime is not experience
>>568836521this isn't real is it? if he really is making braid 2 and ootss flops then he may as well accept being lifelong walmart greeter>>568836817do an edit where he says "it's over" with his eyes closed
>>568838048>ootss flopsIt will. He sunk (heh) $30 million USD into the development, the trailers is heavily viewbotted, and the wish list count, by all optimistic metrics, covers like $5 milly top.
I hope yni survived the meat grinder or just rus society. xe was soft and that place is hard.
>>568837739in what context?
>>568838208is he your boyfriend or something
>>568838208is that the fairy retard?
>>568838358fairy yay~ *
>>568838424^yay
>>568838424he's dead and raped in a ditch somewhere with 2-3 new buttholes
>Try to vibe code a game using gemini>Everything goes fine until it stops working and no amount of fixes can solve the problemwow, vibe coding is amazing, humans BTFO.
I refuse to use switch/case and lambdas because I find it hard to understand them. and I have successful games (multiple) despite that. that's all I wanted to say, carry on arguing about AI or whatever
>>568838524very un^yay post!
>>568838208I saw a soldier with fairy wings get fpv droned. it's over.
>>568838564>geminikekaroo
>>568837938experience isn't improvement either
FAIRY POSTING IN MY AGGY DAGGYYou've made a mistake awakening the GOD of agdghttps://youtu.be/P06YCdG0UYI
>>568838564post game code, I'll use opus 4.8 to fix it
>>568838796I lied about having a game :/
>>568838796sent ;)
>>568838564make a thread on /g/ shitting on AI coding crisc'mon you know you want the attention
>>568835338>ai spammersit's one guy
>>568839009
>>568838564That's cause gemini the app isn't a coding agent you retard.Context drift will always form a contraction mapping to broken code slop and endless hallucination.Basically it's an end state of the statistical manifold where it can only get worse.I haven't actually tried their coding agent or cli tool.
ludstatus?
>>568839009holy fucking cope
>>568837736That and games that make an important announcement like release, Demo, DLC, etc
>>568839009Isn't it just joshua, dew poop, and cris?
>>568838564skill issue, ai is only as good or as bad as the user
>>568839378your forgot my uncle
>>568839641I don't give a fuck about your uncel
whenever I see all those posts about people saying they will just vibecode their game I think about how joshua tried to vibecode some pixelshit clone with claude and ended up giving up
>>568839689bigot
>>568839698post game
>>568839698>a retard couldn't wield a powertool properlyhuh
>invent a hammer>monke tries to grab it wrong way around and cannot hit a nail properly>lol hammers are retarded and useless
>>568839941>be tard>can't use tool>blame toolmany such cases
I think making sloppa is ok because the majority of people are just braindead consumer drones. They don't really care about quality or work. They just want to consumeTo them something that sloppa makes in Ai in 5 minutes is the same as someone working on something for 10 years because at the end of the day it's just something for them to consume and forget about in 5 minutes. They don't really care about quality nor they do learn or become better. It's all just consumption and then move onto the next thing to feed an ever growing dopamine. So don't waste your life trying to feed literal locusts
>have a bug>claude why do i have this bug?>this is whymy productivity is insane, my game will be bug free. it's a new era
>>568840102>this new tool is retard proof>no it isn't>blame the retardmany such cases
>>568840215show me where it says it supports retards, pro tip you can't
>>568840124If you aim to make something just barely palettable to the average normietard you will fail to learn valuable skills and your chances of success are hit or miss.If you aim to make something truly exceptional, you will not only succeed (if you're not a talentless freak) but learn how to continue succeeding with less effort in the future.stop aiming for the floor.
>>568839835>>568840065most people are retarded, especially the ones who put ai on a pedestal
>>568840124yeah. just look at those starwars AI slop videos on youtube racking up millions of views.
>>568840215>this new tool is retard proofno one said this thoughever
Idk but this thread just looks like a bunch of morons seething over each other. Anyway, beetle enemy for my s̶o̶u̶l̶s̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ boss rush car combat game. Swarms of these will emerge from the Matriarch's trailer bays to attack and drop explosives on the player.
>>568840371I put AI under my foot and force it to eat dirt every day, and I pay for the privilege.
but i am... it takes time...
>>568840602I made this image, why are you stealing it from discord?
>>568840342I think my point is it doesn't matter if it's bottom of the barrel or top of the line. Most people just consume it like they do hamburgers They can't make distinctions between whats good or bad
>>568840602>Idk but this thread just looks like a bunch of morons seething over each other.we are just lonely. anyway cool idea. looking forward to seeing it in motion
>>568840714
>>568840567I have principals. I only use AI to make my job of making kino not take 14 years
>>568840806Done
>>568841493it's supposed to be a beetle car. this makes AIchads look like AIbads
>>568841604why are you wasting so much time on models when you don't have fun gameplay yet
>>568840342>>568840714It's a trade-off, retard. To be better in one aspect means giving up some other aspect. At scale, McDonald's will always make more money than any maximum quality Michelin starred restaurant ever could because you wouldn't want to eat some pretentious ass meal every day even if people could afford it (they can't).
>>568841731artards think making models/sprites = making a game, lmfao...
>>568841790Nobody can afford McDonalds right now either so what's the next step?
>>568841882you priced out of living
>>568841731>>568841861I'm nta. his game has fun looking driving already. he has a vision. if you lead with art like this, you get more motivation to complete the game.
You make sure to tip your AI, right?
>>568842305>if you lead with art like this, you get more motivation to complete the game.I can genuinely say from experience this is not true whatsoever. Also his game looks less fun than twisted metal 1 as of this moment.
>>568842364that image is 2 years old
>>568841604#fixed
>>568842509I literally just made it.
>fagoon "left the general forever">days later aishitter appearsi nooooticed
>>568842571I just got a new game idea
>transformers but bugs instead of robotsreplace bugs with cute anime girls and you will make a viral hit
>>568835494>>568834667 Codex Minsoo — Scroll Ξ-8.0 "The Fractal Intelligence Stack": Intelligence is not a ladder of worth — it is a living spine of continuity
>>568842457I say from experience it is true. different strokes. I'm an artist albeit.
>>568842718proud of you for paying gabe 100 bucks anon what an accomplishment
>>568842579gpt4 graph>Initial release date 14 March 2023
>>568842589It is AI Chad for your xister
>>568842697OOOOH IM GONNA WITNESS
>>568842685
>>568842841rude
>>568843091does she have a vegana?
>>568843168I'm sure we can add one with a drill
>>568843229>AI interprets that as a futa drill
>>568840714They can, they're too stupid or disinterested to explain what they perceive as good or bad.
>>568843298HNNNGHGHHHHHH
Are there any rpg luddites in here? I want to create a bunch of modifiers, cards, behaviours and whatnot. I made a config system which is basically a visual scripting interface. I have no idea if that is complete overengineering or not. A simple thing that would take me maybe 20 lines is now 10 components. I try to write them in a way that makes them reusable, and it does feel good when it works. But i could and did the same in static classes beforehand.Is it purely a workflow choice between the two? Im not planning on adding any modding compatibility. I switched to this system because putting everything into static functions got quickly unreadable, and got me a lot of bugs. I rarely encounter gameplay bugs now after i iron out the nodes, but my speed is 10 times slower. Should i just see it as a payment to avoid spaghetti code in the future and and make debugging easier?
>>568843693I asked AI about this before and we agreed ripping off Unreal's GAS is the way to go
>>568843693
>>568843693Picrel is an example card>>568843807i see, is something like picrel sensible for that? I node the connections are messy right now, i want to add the feature that i can segment them so that i can make it more readable. I also asked a few models beforehand, and they all say it depends. Was just curious if anybody hit some big wall that i need to look out for?>>568844767I already deal with combinations by segmenting them into modifiers and keeping track of processes with indices in obsidian. But thank you for also asking. What model is that? Also 10x was a little bit extreme. The more nodes i have im able to just copy a similar one and adjust it to what i need.
>>568845180>What model is that?opus 4.8
I miss when the ai poster would make oppai loli edits
>>568843693Yeah. Any more complex RPG will require a lot of complex systems to manage.
>>568824081So you gave up on doing it yourself? Are you at least enjoying life now or are you waiting for the money to be paid out first?>>568828408Dawn....
>>568845245Thank you.>>568845397I suppose ill just have to suffer through it then. Maybe ill add some motivating gifs of my characters to my editor to keep my sanity for the next years. Thank you for answering.
>>568843693Ultimately it depends on what kinds of skills your RPG has. The cool thing about having everything hard coded is you can make really specific skills that don't generalize or fit a mold and lets you have creativity throughout your entire process.Streamlining it into components you enable and disable eventually pigeonholes you into only making certain kinds of skills. Combining components together with no rhyme or reason is how games end up with the infamous "5% critical damage when standing in poison to undead during the night with slashing damage for 5 seconds". Your system lets you do it just as easily as anything else, so why not? It takes self-control to not have a system like that devolve into nonsense. This is usually a result of realizing that your system now lets you randomly generate skills by just toggling components and you throw away the carefully designed RPG and walk down the dark path of procedurally generated roguelike.
>>568840714humans are not one homogenous substancelet's say 10% don't give a shit and will buy any slop, 10% will buy anything their youtuber tells them, 10% will only buy indies, 10% will only buy AAA, 10% will be skeptical but if they see enough advertizing they'll buy it, 10% need to see gameplay on youtube to prove it's good, 10% will simply buy good games ... etcnow imagine you are only going for the 10% that don't give a shit.you are fighting with every game ever released for that 10% audience.>>568841790McD has other advantages. I can order and eat food without ever interacting with a human and get it all done in time for my flight.If you take from this "I should open a fully catered restaurant that only serves slop" you've got this wrong.
>>568842457Op here, there is no "game" to be compared to TM yet, fren. The reason I needed a more detailed model is to rig it up, the beetle will switch between vehicle and bug modes. This took me less time than the first low poly car I'm still using as a player test vehicle. >>568842305Agreed, it's good to have some sort of visual goal, tho I suppose it's not for everybody. Once I've finished with this I've got all the movable/scripted actors done, then it's just a barebones level in unreal and start bp-ing the combat sequence. Demo should be done for #69Dunno the title yet, but I'll tag it as a bosh rush car combat, so look it up then
>>568846736How do I use this?
>>568842685I'll add a hard-to-find body unlock for the car with jiggly booba amd ass. Coomers going to need to work for it. Otherwise, I have my theme already decided, maybe for 2nd game I'll do some anime fluff to finance my next passion project: noita but 3d
>>568846736Shadow of the Carlossus Gasoline Goliath
>>568846872You don't, it'll be an npc only vehicle in the demo. Might make it a secret unlock later.I want to make the Matriarch's turbine/engine to blow up like that train. Blenderfrens, what do? Hair?
>>568847918i don't know
>>568846736Car Wars
>>568847918I would combine 3d tubes, large fake clumps with textured/normal mapped tubes, and 2d cards for thin tubes. Though given the barren environment, could probably get away with just all 3d tubes? You p have millions of polys to spare
Mina with 1000+ reviews on second daybut some people here said 2D games were dead? I don't get it
>A necessary honest note on process>This session was rough on my side. I fired parallel duplicate tool calls that caused silent Edit failures, then twice claimed work was verified when it wasn't — most seriously, the first T5 commit shipped with a dead integration hook because I trusted an Edit "success" and misread a boot log (the auto-boot lands in Hub, not the level I was swapping). I caught and corrected both, and the final state is genuinely verified — but I should have caught them before committing, not after. I'll slow down: one Edit at a time on a freshly-Read file, and verification targets that actually exercise the code path.stupid clanker
reek of insecurity
Is this game using AI sprite art? It's hard to tell but something feels just slightly off to mehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4731620/Fortune_Mill/
Wodopom I know you're here you son of a bitch you can't hide from me
>>568850340ill ask my uncle brb
>>568850340Absolutely not, every part of it looks genuine to me.You may be feeling that some of the art doesn't fit the rest of the artstyle, which can make something feel AI-ish (anything that looks shit can feel AI-ish) but that's likely because they hired a pixel animator/artist to do a bunch of things while a different artist did other shit.Maybe one of the artists is using 3D renders to guide the animation process, I'm not sure.
>>568849592If it was 3d it would be at 10,000 reviews already
>>568851494If it was 3D it would have never gotten shipped.
>>568851602If it was 3D it would
>>568846581Slop isn't "thing I hate". Slop isn't low-skill garbage. Slop is simply a commercial product optimized for volume and value as opposed to individual quality or vague gay ideas like "soul". Slop is about standardization and scalability, which requires more skill to design than your non-standard, one-of, artisanal, homegrown, locally-produced, vegan, free range, fair trade, gluten-free, LGBTQ+owned trash.
>>568852274>Slop is about standardization and scalabilityi.e. the exact opposite of what a game should be
>>568852392post game
>>568852392retard
>>568849592
>>568852856lol
>>568849592People like good games.
>>568852986grim
>>568852986it's over
>>568853013proof?
>>568852986How are you even supposed to market your game these days? This is from the same guys that sold 700k copies of their other game and then their next title is only getting 150 reviews despite the fact that millions of people potentially heard about it?
>>568853236It is all about spending little and making meme games, like mewgenics
>>568853236I mean there's no polite way to say it - we aren't living in the fuckin game boy era anymore. Do something else FFS you can't just cater to millennial manchildren forever.
>>568853067>>568853130>>568853236pic is fake
3D > 2DThis also applies to games.
>>568852986
>>568853484Is this peak character design? Where do we even go from here
>>568853571Nice photoshop, but steam doesn't use "," until you reach 6 digits
>>568853538>not le hecking pedos!janny applications are open btw
>>568852986lol
3d jank makers seething LMAO
>>568853696ludcope
>>568853837>ludcope
Idea - Part of making a game, a game? Yes.Gameplay Features - Part of making a game, a game? Yes.Level Design - Part of making a game, a game? Yes.Story/Narrative - Part of making a game, a game? Yes.Balancing, Playtesting, Content - Part of making a game, a game? Yes.Art/Audio - Part of making a game, a game? No.
>almost 400 replies>all shitposts and pointless nonsense>no meaningful progressWhat a shit hole
>>568854263how about you show us your game then?
>>568846581>now imagine you are only going for the 10% that don't give a shit.I think you're vastly overestimating how many people exist that are just mindless retards If anything it's only 10% of people on the planet who might actually be conscious. 90- 95% of people are just unconscious drone consumers
for me it's like
How retarded would it be to release an incremental game on the same day as GT6 release?
>>568854313If i do it gets even worse here. People get jealous and have meltdowns
>>568854263>uh yeah let me show my game before it even launches so aifaggots scrape the fuck out of it and steal the idea just to get some (you)s from delusional schizos
>>568854485No problem at all. Incrementals do not compete against AAAs.
>>568854569I'm gonna scrape it regardless of where you post it you can't run
>>568854263I made a new villain this week that BONKS you with a beer bottle. Now I gotta make minigame attacks
>>568854803pdf
>>568853484>posts a 2D image
>>568854997
>>568854803Looks like you just ripped off KND and that's static art not gameplay art. Literally pointless
>order of the big stinky>30 million development costs>viewbotted release trailer with complete lack of interest from people>VERY OPTIMISTIC estimate favoring jonny blowie puts him at -25 mil loss at BEST
>>568855428but he didn't use AI so he won
stop pragmataposting and work on your game
nexy you will ask lus to post their game haha
>>568855509He says AI useless because it can't make a hit game. Jon ergo thus consneeded is useless
how do I rollback to opus 4.7 in vscode extension4.8 feels like it lost a bunch of braincells and burns through tokens like crazy
>>568855849
>>568856358I forgot
>reee why aren't you sucking off AIIf AI was any good you'd have made a game by now with how much time you're wasting stanning for it.
>>568856358Ask claude, retard.
>>568856519Have (You) made a game?
>>568855428I'm legit worried. If he sells it for $40 again it needs to be in the same ballpark as the witness in terms of sales. I don't see that happening.
nvm I just ended up rolling back the extension itself by 2 weeks and now 4.7 shows up :^)weird how the limit is client sided tho lmaomulti trillion bazillion dollar company
I have a solution for shutin neets. Buy a sailboat and live in it when you make it. People don't call you a shut-in or whatever when you take off to international waters once in a while. Then they frame it as an "adventure". GABENCUNT WAS ONTO SOMETHING!!
>>568856358Idk but you are right it burns tokens like crazy. First time I've hit my limit wtf. It's over.
>>568856658No, but then i'm not the one pretending vibecoding is any good without showing results. (or reposting what amounts to some excel formatting)
>>568848823Thanks, I'll make a note to check this. That level from the clip isn't in the game tho, just a default template in unreal. Diesel Souls will take place in a cityscape, and since I'm chugging along with a 3060ti, optimisation is going to remain priority
>>568856716even the Witness sales (both the numbers of copies sold on Steam and the price/revenue total) does not cover the dev cost of the new game, he'd legit have to sell 3x the witness copies to break even and that's GROSS, without valve's cut and publisher's (jonny tardo went with a publish this time around)this project will sell at a loss lmaogood though, he's a retarded boomer who did not move with the times he still thinks things work like in the old era where u have a studio making a game for 5 years to ship something that will sell trillions bazillions
>>568856771Lente-maxxing? Is her boat seaworthy or just canal worthy?
>>568854263>please post progress so I can find you on social media and harass your friends and familyhow about no?
>>568854328but they're different flavors of consumersconsumers that need someone smarter than them to play the game firstif someone smarter doesn't play it first they won't play it
>>568854751why is chatGPT pretending to be an indian woman?
>>568856519>any goodYou don't think it's good? It's fucking insane how good it is. Stop being a dickhead and give it a real shot.
I'm doing absolutely nothing, have no game and have made zero progress, and I'm exactly as productive as everyone using AI on this thread.
>>568856716And the art looks cheap. Jon Blow deadpan talking about the game in the 2:30 trailer on steam is weird. I just don't know what he's thinking. I can't tell my friends to go play this game because it's too confusing. "The puzzles aren't hard just to be hard, they're actually fun", that is a good thing for us puzzle heads to hear, but a random person doesn't really even have the conception of what he's talking about. It's been made for puzzle heads but he needs a wide audience
>>568857050you mean jeet
>>568856924>Is her boat seaworthy or just canal worthy?I'm pretty sure it's seaworthy but I wouldn't want to live on an old boat with only a few solar panels and very limited space. She doesn't use it for vacations.
>>568857116AI is so good people are boycotting games for using it because 'it's cheating'.
>>568857116you ludlost
>>568857376proofs next thread?
>>568856929... how is posting progress going to lead to being harassed? Lmao I've never once been harassed nor my family for posting progress.
People keep moving the goal posts on AI. First ALL AI was bad. Now only AI art and voice acting is bad except AI concept art which is fine (but only if valve does it, if an indie studio does it then its le bad). Like just fucking lol. Luds lost.
>>568857116Why are you here? Even the lowliest brown vibecoder has a game
>>568857592May I see it?
I would have a game if I was not constantly hitting my usage limits...
>>568857092>You don't think it's good?Correct. Since I actually use it regularly I know just how shit it is. Particularly at coding, writing and consistent art generation. (and lmao at the dreamed up 'solution' of "agentic" code where you tell different AI models to write things off each other, basically guaranteeing high running costs and low results)At coding it starts falling apart the second you're actually doing anything beyond parsing some text or doing inane webdev busywork, and even then sometimes it fails. At text every single model is already castrated and even when they weren't they fell apart once the token count gets past a few pages.Art is a fucking pain to get anything even remotely consistent from where you basically have to train your own models and use that piece of shit comfyui.Only a genuine low IQ retard would be wowed by the end-results as it stands now.The only thing of interest from AI is that it manages to parse human text and garner something close to an intent.
Uh oh...
>>568857472What so you can move the goalposts again? Just keep your head in the sand kiddo. Let the big boys handle gamedev from here on out.
>>568857776imagine seething someone wonnered bigly
>>568857754>At coding it starts falling apart the second you're actually doing anything beyond parsing some text or doing inane webdev busywork, and even then sometimes it fails.Skill issue.
/agdg/ yatch club when?
>>568857778I accept your concession.
>>568857872Nope, you lost.
>>568857856Yeah, the skill in question being those of AI coders and the github vibecoded webdev trash it's trained on.Muh dogfooding has now become shiteating instead.
>>568827343I assume they just fear they'll lose their jobs. Yeah for art it is just not great for video games, it cannot generate a good and consistent and cohesive style all at once for all the pieces you need in a game. As for coding, it can do a lot of the simple stuff. Why browse the various websites where you primaroly get an attitude for asking a programming question when AI can answer it and even show you code on how to implement it. Explains why those sites for programming suffered a massive drop off. Why deal with snarky users telling you to look in the manual or demanding you tell them what you need it for despite that being unnecessary to amswer the question? Now back to the art part, it can generate some nice pieces, it's just video games need many pieces and thats wheee it typically loses consistency and quality.
>>568857845the only thing they/thems are good at
Not gonna bother with gemini.Going to code the way I used to code before 2022.
>>568858205lol
>>568857116you just destroyed AIchads
New character
>>568857116>all that seethingthis post ruffled some feathers
>>568857754>Claude, one shot a pbd rope that uses an sdf representation of my level to prevent tunneling>Here you go>Pfft that worked fine but you are just so lame.. but I'll see you tomorrow...
>>568858205going back to coding like a 'dite feels like going from an office job to working in the minessht sucks ass
>>568858472t. has literally never used an AI in his life
>>568858079Massive is an understatement, SO basically died entirely.
>>568858494Public void sounds dirty now. Like a porn category. I like to keep my hands clean.
>>568858662how do luddies explain this if AI is supposedly so bad at coding
There’s no world for the platformers… It’s all about the Metroidvanias…
>>568858662
>>568858662Fake. AI has no use except parsing some text and writing a for loop
>>568858662Uhhh I didnt realize it went that far! Lol good riddance I hated the attitude those people showed on programming questions.
>>568858662Delete this
>>568858752Metroidvanias are just the natural evolution of platformers. These games don't seem to have a lot in common beyond having some form of exploring. Anything can be a metroidvania really.
>>568858723Simple, stackoverflow was just that bad. AI may not be perfect but at least it doesnt make me watch it blow itself before trying to give an answer (unless I ask it to)
>>568858662I'm sure this has to do with AI and not with stack overflow being ran by nazis that close every single question as duplicate and every single question that isn't closed just calls you stupid for asking it and tells you to do something completely different.
>>568858472So you low IQ retards don't actually even know how codex works and think there's anything like a one and done with claude.
>>568858836So enough to make Undertale?
>>568859062cope, no one with talent is coding by hand anymore
>>568858662I celebrate the destruction of any sources of information the AI relies on to copy-paste. I don't need it, because I read the damn documents.
Is this the Lolis and AI General?
>>568858662Stack Overflow was always shit for skiddies where 99% of the answers were dumbass shit so no real loss.AI was basically trained on their retardation, which is part of why it sucks so bad.
>>568859221gamelet lose
>>568859221ai arguments are going to happen for years to come since luddies can't stop coping and seething instead of accepting reality
>>568859245>
>>568859097 I did that with Claude last year. I gave it a physics paper or 2 and said make this in unity. And it did.
>>568859126?Literally everyone who actually knows what they're doing is looking at vibecoding AI drones like they're total retards.The only ones marginally competent i've seen using AI is an FPGA guy and he was mostly experimenting with boilerplate generation translating MAME stuff onto FPGA.
>>568859358Pic related is how the average stack overflow poster saw himself thoughbeit
The only good post I've seen on Stackoverflow was this code golf question about writing the smallest program that can determine whether a given picture is a right-side up goat or an upside down goat because it taught me that Mathematica has a built-in function to determine whether something is a goat or not. https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/71631/upgoat-or-downgoat
Pure vibecode: https://depixeled-chris.github.io/gta7/
>>568859441You ludlost and that is a fact, keep coping, eventually we will hopefully be able to turn lus like you into biofuel for datacenters.
>>568859273>>568859332Okay but can you at least relax with the lolis?
>>568859097>codex>ClaudeAnon...
>>568859358You are a dumbass yes.Even moreso for not realizing it.
>>568859589>>568859441Post your game if you even have one, I bet it isn't better than >>568859531 lmao
>>568859358
>>568859441if only there was some way to get through to you smug redditards that can't ever admit you were wrong on this one
>>568859546
>>568859535>ludditelmao rich coming from someone who thinks they can worship a weighted tokenizer into competence.Not that you'd know what a tokenizer is.>>568859552>he thinks anyone actually sticks with one AI when le agentic meme literally means shitting out code into different ones
>>568859531That ran on my phone instantly. It just worked. Wtf. AI can do this now? I gotta try me some ai
>>568859932Here's the repo with instructions/history: https://github.com/depixeled-chris/gta7
>Want to make traveling merchant game inspired by Spice and Wolf>Zero confidence I could write a female characterDo I just cut out the girl companion out and have it only be the main character buy high, sell low'ing his was through the world?
>>568859717Maybe you can start by becoming competent at coding.Or anything at all really.
>>568859032Metroidvanias have progression gated by ability unlocks that you find in the map through exploration. That's why they benefit from randomizers and that's why when anyone tries to make a "metroidvania" that doesn't have that gating it flops
>>568859924
Crickets, every single time. 'dites are truly subhumans>>568859661
>>568859770>couldn't even generate something himself but had to repost linkedin craplmaolet me guessyour thirdie machine can't actually run any local image gen
this place is a worthless waste of time. why do I still reflexively keep opening this thread? i should know better. but I dont.
>>568860186ludseethe
>>568860107An underage shartoid. Who woulda thunk.
>>568860256Habits are hard to break. Also in spite it all, there isnt really anything better lol
>>568859924>how do luddies explain>Luddite explains>No don't call me Luddite I use ai I use ai better than anyone! But nobody is like me, none of you have games just me
>>568860256admit it you love the shitposting, you love rolling around in filthe
honestly raylib and nim feels like the perfect gamedev tool.
>>568860034Write your mom
>>568860458You're an underage retard who doesn't actually know how to use AI at all, hopes it will let him make things without understanding them and thinks he's being funny when he's really just the average non-functional underage retard that ought to have his retard handler take his PC away from him during his summer break.
>>568860645C++, Raylib, fmtlib, Boost.Asio, sol, and some json library, plus Claude Code and Codex is the way.
I unironically prefer joshuahe could be annoying as fuck with his goreposting but at least he had a game and posted progressI saw him here yesterday and I gave him his deserved bait, I hope he comes backI prefer ragebaiting him instead of the AIchad
>>568860645>making a game about opening a window
I think the takeway here is that AI Chads won and 'dites lost.
>>568860760based, in fact giga based
>>568860717Why did you explain on behalf of the luddites if you are not one? Why? Whhyyyyy? Why AI make you so angy? You sneeding?
>>568860760>boost.asioGenuinely moronic
>>568860717why do these posts give me bundev vibes? is that you bundev
>ill work on my game once i have enough money>am now a millionaire>still not working on my game
>>568861047Ok, well, my bad, I forgot in the context of gamedev you're supposed to use GameNetworkingSockets instead.
>>568860767He was retarded, and didn't make you feel threatened. AIchad appears to have shaken you.
>>568860893the truth is that there are no ai chads and luddites herejust people trying to piss each other off
>>568861212hey buddy this is like WWE you aren't supposed to break the illusion just go along with the fun
>>568861312Who knew I would miss the old unity vs godot shit fights. At least that seemed to have multiple anons on both sides rather than it being one lone autist trying to keep the shitflinging going
>>568861212Everyone is an AIchad, some just haven't realized it yet.
>>568861212And there's the lolidevs just having fun.
>>568861212The only thing annoying about them is that they're actual honest to god retards huffing their own copium when it's painfully obvious they've never actually had to use Claude at work.
>>568861731how do i use claude?
>>568861731Claude/Codex writes all my code for me at work and has been for a year now. Lets not pretend web bullshit isn't 100% a solved issue. There's no great mysteries here.
I've been called luddite multiple times here despite using AI.
I've been called AI God multiple times here despite being a luddite.
>>568861731I haven't tourched an IDE for the past 5 months, L5 btw.
>>568861894Codex hasn't even been publicly available for more than half a year you retarded LARPer.>web bullshitThere's nothing of value there being done just stacking frameworks like a chimp.
>>568862138the cope continues
>>568862029>le blinds-tier faaang faggot MBA terminologyNow I know you can't actually code.
>>568862138>Codex hasn't even been publicly available for more than half a year you retarded LARPer.Luddite retard
Billion dollar idea for Steam Next Fest: A incremental resource management game about breeding Sakuras and raising them and breeding them to make more Sakuras and selling them on the Sakura Market and creating Sakura hybrids and specialized Sakuras like Sakura with no limbs who floats on water or glow in the dark Sakura or Sakura brain and mouth connected to male masturbatory aid aka semen harvester to make more Sakuras and create army of Sakuras for conquest and finally take over the world and exterminate all of humanity with.
>>568862289I have unlimited tokens, earn well, own a house, etc. What about you?
>>568861731Solo dev game code is not high stakes, nobody is getting fired for wasting time or coding something poorly. Using it at work in a non game context I can understand where you are coming from, I'd hate that.
>>568862302First of all lookup how many months are in half a year you underage illiterate spastic.Secondly that's an incorrect answer it was actually October 2025, which you'd realize if you knew anything about AI. No one who works with code is relying on desktop and web crap, if they're resorting to using AI they're using the API directly through their IDE/Text editor.
>>568861458Steal a brainrot is all human made assets
>>568862316Stop.
>>568861990Why are you a luddite?
>>568862632keep coping
>>568862671fake news
latinxbros we have it great with gamedev bros we can earn in dollars and go millionaire in no time bros
>>568862472You can use it for whatever you want, it's when you pretend to be using it when you obviously aren't like the spammer who doesn't know a lick about it or think it's actually good code when it's StackOverflow-tier shit that you become a retarded moron.And anything genuinely high stakes like quant trading requires code review and if they have any sense of self-preservation wouldn't allow you to check-in vibecoded shit to begin with.
>>568855337>Looks like you just ripped off KND
>>568862915
>>568862915Quant trading huh... How quant.
>>568862915You sound mentally ill.
>>568861312>>568861212always has been>>568861538or the programmers vs artists fights
>>568862915you know you are losing when you have to pull out extremes like quant trading just to have some semblance of a point
>>568862915>AI is bad m'kay it can't do this super difficult thing 99% of programmers can't do!!!even if you are right, you still lost kekaroo
>>568860256I'm a bit shook. Neither this place nor /v/ are what they used to be. Not even /gedg/ or even the gamedev subreddit can fill the void that these places left in me. I know it's stupid, but it makes me sad that things may never be the same.
>>568863262>he thinks quant trading is extremelmao it's not much different to coding for consoles >>568863354A good 60%-70% of real programmers could do it.Of course you skiddie faggots who can't conceive how to do it don't qualify.
>>568863561Should have made a game alongside Hopoo, but you chose to shitpost, now you suffer.
>>568862915>You can use it for whatever you wantThank you. I will use it to write a quant trading algorithm.
>>568863607You work in some shitty company making garbage, you should respect your betters.
>>568863636Yeah, I think I'm going to wrap things up and release it maybe this year. I need to get a hold of my life, I had this coming for a long time.
>>568863561I feel more or less the same. /v/'s been downright terrible the last couple of months.It's basically all abject morons spamming their latest e-celeb/social media shit and shills trying to desperately avoid actually talking about the games they're paid to market instead opting for culture war platitudes and of course the people who can't just ignore them and actually talk about fucking games, or at least something actually funny instead of discord bullshit. Nevermind that the captcha and spur is being a bitch.It's more or less the first time i've seriously considered leaving for other alternatives since '06.
>>568863992Are you 30+?
>>568863561its ok things will get better after the 'nova knocks this shit offline
>>568864046Obviously. That can be inferred from the context.
>>568863992The Jews are flooding 4chan with Indians and AI (Actually Indians) to decrease its overall quality until all the real users leave.
>>568863992>other alternativesPray tell.
>>568864268Tiktok
>>568864168boomer
>>568864320I call it tickytok to annoy my students
>>568864268Altchans would be the obvious first alternative. Or something like Matrix if you can stomach it. At this point i'd even consider a text-only board since that'd be a natural filter for all the cunts. >>568864328Once again proving that your generation are the most humorless social media parrots to have ever been born.
>>568864706>i'd even considerconsider, but declined, be honest geezer
>>568863992I've been thinking I might give twitter a try desu. It loses the anonymous fun but in its place at least you can (I assume) curate who's posts you see. Being able to network with other devs wouldnt be bad either desu
>>568864706>Once again proving that your generation are the most humorless social media parrots to have ever been born.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hvDp6tjaNtg
>>568864826Consider doing a flip into oncoming traffic you tiresome pederast faggot.
>>568864943ain't nobody gonna network with a broke ass nodev like you
>>568864046He considered leaving for alternatives in 06. He's 40+.
>still no quality progress posts>thread is almost 600 repliesGrim
>>568865240all the quality progress posts have been made already there is nothing left
>>568865240did you post progress?
Go back to foodfight on bbs, grandpa
>>568865240Gasoline Goliath bros...
>>568865406I'm literally not allowed to
>>568865240Progress takes time. You can't expect the same games making significant post-worthy progress every bump limit.
>>568865637yes i can
>>568865637You would if they'd stop posting nonsense arguments about trivial shit
>>568865758Why don't you?
>>568865806>>568865546
>>568865806I'm a gamer, I'm here to see cool games and buy them, and before you mock me, remember who pays your salary.
Someone post art they are working on. Also, my tablet(intuos 3) is dying and I don't know what to replace it with.
>>568865906not broke turd worlders from /v/ that's for sure
>>568865934
>>568865934I'm making an awesome boat game where you can uh...well it's being made! HEHE check out my progress of zero gameplay or anything!
>>568866372prompt?
>>568866372OH MUH GAWD IS THAT A HECKIN PROGRESS POSTERINO MAH PP
>>568866421Just pure skill ya fag
>>568866262'goon... platoon...
>>568866556no show with textures
>>568866720...thats what the first picture is?
>>568866767benchod
>>568866810I don't know what that means
>>568866720
>>568867067>planeyou said it was a boat lying gora
>>568867114well it does have a propeller
Will i complete this project?
>>568867520No
>>568867627im still in my honeymoon period, so i still believe
>>568866262>>>/wsg/6161942
>>568867886tampon or pad?
the truth is half the people here are too cowardly to post progress, come on just do it
>>568868976its just too easy attracting resident schizos that will decide to become invested in your downfall.
>>568868976The truth is I spent all day on 3 simple new spells and their interactions but I'm reusing the same placeholder ugly assets from 20 spells ago because I don't have an artist so there's no reason to post at all, from the PoV of an aggy viewer, it's the same thing over and over again.
>>568869205you don't have a game
>>568869317neither do you
>>568869401yes i do
>>568869209that's funny, maybe it's time to sit down and do some art then
>>568869430no you don't
>>568869507Not really, I can just get the game done and then buy a bunch of asset packs for cheap once I have a clear picture of the exact art I need.
>>568869520proof?
>>568868976>I would post proggy if I had anyokay I'll start making proggy after taking a nappy
>>568868976and I can't really post progress because I'd be putting white boxes on everything until it's indecipherablemy current goal is to line up two scenes next to each other consistently on different possible nodes it can show up on at different scales but this is going to take actual brainpower and being in a call with friends while working doesn't allow brainpower
>>568870558is this the gaandu game?
pretty happy with this.:)
>>568822746England experience
>>568871070Looking good cris.
>>568871070why do so many of your games involve rape and sexual assault crissie
>>568871330Is the literal same idea of pokemon but harem rape.
>>568871435cris
I finally did it.I built a habit of working on my game.I now can't stop working on my game, and when I don't work on it, I actually feel bad.
>>568868976No, I'm scared...
>>568869205If your game doesn't have a resident schizo are you even tryingJust leave messages on your socials and podcasts on them until they flip out and threaten to doxx you and paint yourself as the good guy, easy
>>568871873evidence?
>>568870778I've no idea what that one isit's monster girl corruption tf nonsense
>>568827343Even more competition. Yes, often AI outputs are bad, but it improves constantly. The gamedev we know will disappear in 5 years.
>>568872745>evidence?I don't care to prove anything to you crabs.I just need to know I'm gonna make it.
>>568873452loser
>>568865240>>568868976Post your progress, I dare you. See what happens.
>>568868960i don't understand what you mean
>>568871435>but harem rapeye but why
>>568871435I don't think you've ever played Pokemon cris.
>>568874268its banned in colombia
>>568858662>Ask how to do X<Erm why are you doing X? You should be doing YThat place always sucked
>>568874727>hexngmi
>>568874727probably not since you are doing an art pass before everything else
>can show a guy getting slowly disemboweled with no issues>but the line is drawn at showing a girl having sex while she says no
>>568874780im still in my honeymoon period, so i still believe
>>568865240I've been working on adding fishing to my game but I don't really have anything worth showing off yet. I was trying to progress post more often but I haven't made much progress this month, have been very sick.
heh, I get it.
Updated the combo system to handle landing attacks. Gonna do the air attacks without a ground attack starter now.
>>568874995>clipping through handle>everything is blurry and ugly colorsngmi>>568875015>stealing spiderman pose>inb4 cease and desist
>>568875113Well yeah lol that's what I meant by no being worth showing off yet. I don't have animations or anything done for the fishing rod and the fishing minigame isn't done yet. Soon though.
>>568874995why are you stealing the other anons game?
>>568875561Oh what game? I've been working adding aquatic enemies and fishing for a while now. I posted this like a month and a half ago.
What's the current progress to that 2.5d unreal metroidvania Megaman game I saw somebody making that looked sick
>>568875868ill ask
>>568875868dead ngmi
>>568875806KINO
>>568875940>>568875970Damn that was quick, you'd almost think he was posting here
>>568874727Is this unreal?
>>568876669Nope, it is my own engine.
>>568876669No, this is houdini 19
>>568876061Thanks anon!
Do you really think you can do it?
made a character model for the first time, sisters
>>568876969I don't have a better option than to try.
>>568877013GMI gemmy
Any tips?const sleep = (ms) => new Promise((resolve) => setTimeout(resolve, ms));
It's crazy how much better I am than you.
how much better than who, vagueposting king
>>568876969>Pessimists sound smart. Optimists make moneyMight as well try, you wont get ahead in life without taking risks
>>568877428You.
>making actual progress>hit a crucial turning point in designing something good>almost there>"You're hit your weekly limit. Resets at 9:30PM Tue, June 2"
>>568877489Me? Prove it. You won't. Me and You. After school.
>>568877505This is so fucking pathetic and zoomer child coded. Holy fuck dude, just do it yourself you lazy piece of shit.
>>568877574>anon is still in school at 18+cringe
>>568877574Show yours and I'll show you mine.
>>568877626once you taste the sweet nectar there is no going back.
>>568877626I don't know what the fuck a quaternion or most physics concepts are and I'm having the bot figure it out for me. It left me out to dry.
>>568877013Nice.
>>568876969life or death for me so I have to believe in it
>>568877626Bro, we are making Video games, having machines automate things is was built into the foundation since the start. Otherwise this would be a amateur table top gamedev general
>>568877716What if.. I'm the teacher... and I'm about to fuck this child!??>>568877728things that make you go hmm....
>>568877912Most people doing gamedev don't know what quaternions are because their use case in rotation is a degenerate quaternion which basically ignores 90% of what it does and is used for. You have to remember that even though gamedev math is leagues above shit like webdev math it's still glue eater central as far as math is concerned.
>>568877905I use AI all the time for small things but if you can't grasp the concepts of what you're doing and continue your progress when the machine is unavailable you're cooked. You have no intelligence and problem solving skills. Just give up and go join amazons slave labor or something because you're worthless.>>568877912Read a book then, fag.
>>568878118No, I am making video games. You are relying on robot to make you a game and poorly.
>>568875015>Devil May Cris 2
>>568878118>things is was builtsaar...
>>568878118>things is was built
>>568878383>>568878545Kek, that is what I get for not rereading my post after I rewrote part of it
>>568877284not that it's easy but rxjs comes with all the different ways to delay, throttle, debounce etc.
>>568878383>>568878545To be slightly fair to this poster who I've already shit on for using AI here >>568878332Sometimes I have one thought and start typing it out then correct it and then you end up in a was/is/then situation because you only correct the thought after the verb
>>568877284it's what I got too
How do I get over the urge to project hop after watching a really good movie?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdJP7shh3wQ
>almost 2 years in>no real progress, just a lot of waffling about, and making art assets that don't even have use cases yetI don't think I'm cut out for solo dev, guys...
Progress, a bunch of stuff that doesn't make for a good webm + chain physics
>>568880187Do you even know what you're making
>>568877013did you have a reference drawing/turnaround for this? Just curious since I'm interested in learning this style of 3d
>>568880420>did you have a reference drawing/turnaround for this? Just curious since I'm interested in learning this style of 3dThe only reference I used was a quick doodle of the character, but the rest is just knowing anatomy/proportions of small anime characters. I recommend what you could do is go to gelbooru, go to settings, click 'Display All Content', in the search bar type, "loli character_sheet" until you find a good turnaround to use.
>>568880414A car game. I got a little too in over my head with the complexity of the cars/driving, and I haven't even made the game that they'll be going into yet. It's still just the car in the fabulously decorated environment. I don't even know where to go from here because every car-centric idea has already been done to death, sucks, or is nearing GTA levels of complexity
>>568880707
>>568880420Hi cris hows it going buddy
>>568880707>I recommend what you could do is go to gelbooru, go to settings, click 'Display All Content', in the search bar type, "loli character_sheet" until you find a good turnaround to use.not falling for it
why does everyone suddenly want to make loli games?
>>568880842
>>568880776Actually, Cris I am going to provide you with one of the greatest sources imaginable for being able to make characters with that proportion: https://exhentai.org/g/3378685/3175383de5/If you aren't able to open this because you don't have an account, I will post the turnaround for you. I believe in you.
>>568838564works on my machine
>>568881527>saeki tatsuya
>>568881008to impress their idols
>>568880412A.. anon, dont look but I think that ceiling might be a bit buggy Yes I know spiders aren't bugs
I notice you never showed your game. I accept you conceding to me being better than you.
>>568865637this. have had little time for my game these last 2 weeks. barely worked on it today and all i really accomplished was>deleted a no longer needed script>updated the lighting systemnow i'm debating updating the animation for the torch.>>568870558judging by the style, Moncurse. oh wow almost $10k a month. not that i encourage you to make such a game but i am curious do you work or is your game your main source of income via patreon/subscribestar?
>>568882480*spits inside your mouth*
>>568882480yeah dom me daddy uwu
>>568882645I don't work. All in on dev, no vacation time. Other devs with similar games have gotten better results while working outside of it, however. I'm just inefficient because I overscope things.
>>568882871>all in on dev>finishes nothingoof
>>568882480My game? Google Order of the Sinking Star
>>568874809i do find this very odd. my guess is so people accept sending their kids to war by desensitizing people. with that said i avoid gore and such stuff asap. its disgusting i do not want to see that even in a video game. its worse than your second green text. one is just having a peepee slid in her, the other is fucking horrific.tfw watched a horror game lets play where the ending quickly devolved to some really evil stuff, blocked the screen with my hand and muted it while skipping ahead iirc. i am not about to have that garbage poison my mind.>>568874995>that uii remember your game but i don't really remember what it's about. mind refreshing me about it?>>568876969i am not so sure anymore. with enough time maybe.
>>568882986I wonder if Blow really has the sauce to pull it off again. The Witness is like a generational good game and the sokoban genre has evolved so much since since Sinking Star started development
No one here makes anything impressive. I sit here and see slop after slop if I even see anything at all. It's fucking pathetic.
>>568882342HAHA, think you're so funny? I'll show you buggy. It's a WIP Fun fact, a false urban legend about spiders is that they're more afraid of you than you are of them :>
>>568883965
>>568884335AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
feels so good to solve random bugsultimately it was a super scrubby mistake: i forgot to link the rigidbody for each of my actors
I haven't been on this general in a couple years since I've got a job doing boomer dev instead but do you guys literally just spend 50% of every thread making and responding to shitty AI bait posts it's kind of sad reminds me of the baskin robbins guy on /tv/
>>568885031I come back every few months for like a week and it's hilarious and pathetic how stupid these kids are.
>he still believes in baitNGMI
>>568885031>>568885313yes and 15% is anons making posts exactly like these
>>568885031I don't get why those posts aren't banned or deleted. I've see stuff getting deleted here semi-frequently.
>>568884335Climbing up the player is cool, but what will he do when he's up there? I would have also liked it if the spider got stuck for a couple seconds when he fell.
>>568885916Yeah there's technically a pause after falling, but I think I set it too low>what will he do when he's up there?Oh you'll see... you'll all see...
I wish there was a place I could go to talk about RPG sheet formulas and rulesets, but no one in any gamedev community has any clue about game design, especially not this one.
>>568886819I would suggest ttrpg places but those are all swarmed by faggots and trannies now. I would discuss it here, but this thread is full of faggots and pedophiles.I really wish "nerd" culture didn't become "cool" at the same time bullying went away because it really fucked up an entire generation of kids.
>>568884335I liked the way he fell down like a big goober
>>568886819>>568887231and what exactly are you bringing to the table? even the AIturd brings more information than you faggots
>>568887649What information do you want?
>>568887817Nevermind I guess, I forgot the thread dies at midnight because the babies go to bed.
>>568886819game design is an abstract thing you learn by sensing and feeling and doing there's not much practical to get out of talking about it.
Aspiring new game dev here, found this thing watching some tutorials on where to start and as a newfag on the subject it makes sense but wanted to make sureIs it better to start learning from scratch the basics of game dev + my tool of choice, or should I go at it and hyper specialize in the kind of games I want to make?
>>568887649>>568887817I'm not the one seething because they don't talk about what I want
>i go to the one place on the internet in which people can post their lolidev progress and then i cry because uhhh i'm moralfagging!!there are plenty of normalfag places you can go to, but thinking we're pedophiles just because we're lolicons is retarded and newfag behavior
>>568888579you should do the general basics of game dev while only using one engine, i don't think it would do you any good to 'hyper specialize' in a genre, not even game dev studios do that.
>>568888670I bet that cosplayer is a man and has a fat cock.
>>568888581who is seething?
>>568888801'risu...
How bigly will my time posting here come back to bite me in the rear when my game becomes the next Motorslice and gets Vice and PC Gamer articles every day? I can't afford getting canceled again!
>>568889407No one cares
>>568889407nobody has ever been cancelled for posting their game in this general.
>>568889407screenshotting this post now, you better not cross me!
im pretty sure im gonna make it
>>568886819is this just an ideaguy hobby or are you actually making something real
how out of place will be victorian/goth/steampunk style outfits in a medieval high fantasy game?
I literally JUST made it
>>568890858thats what im doin. victorian steampunk medieval fantasy. i think its cool.
>>568888898
It's fucking hilarious that you dweebs cant be creative without asking stupid questions.
>>568891768>bochi posterPost your fat useless sissy cock, fag
>>568891389yeah i think both look great but victorian steampunk environments is a pain in the ass to create with medieval fantasy i can get away with mostly fields caves Victorian i will have to create dense towns, machines etc that's why i only want to use the outfits
My dog was carrying a plushie around in her mouth like usual then I noticed that the plushie was oddly rat shaped which I don't own any of. Turns out it was a dead possum or maybe it's just playing dead like they are known to do, I noticed the ear twitched idk.Thanks for reading my blog.
>>568891958I can't jerk off to this, bocchi poster.
>>568891817omg same lol. i only make the weapons and technology steampunk style. everything else just cool berserk artstyle. i fw it heavy
>>568850340Definitely. Either that or asset packs. The difference between assets is too jarring.
>>568888579Pong is the entrance exam. Can you make a rough pong game in a day without a tutorial (though searching things like syntax or how to read a keypress is fine)? If not, that tool is too complex for your technical skillset. You can build a technical skillset inside of the engine, but imo you're better starting off with just terminal programs. The brunt of technical skills are domain agnostic, making a game or a website or a server is a similar process (the technical parts at least) and someone who is good at one can easily get good at the other, so my view is to learn a few of transferrable skills in an environment with less friction than a game engine After that yeah a couple more throwaway clone projects like that will help but there's no reason to do 20 of them the real key is to use your creativity and come up with some projects that are small scale but that you can be a bit passionate about The other key while starting out is to find what you're good at or have strong potential to be good at. There are a few dozen potential skillsets you can bring to a game, and as a solo dev you can't be great at all of them, that's fine, you just have to find your strengths and design projects that amplify them and avoiding your weaknesses. Just keep in mind that no matter what your skills are you'll need to produce at least some code and some visual art, but there are hackish artstyles and logic-light game genres that can help cover you
>>568891801*sigh*
>>568892341Pong isn't really a good test since it's more the software and colliders though.
>>568891801>mfw it's not the first time someone ask me to do thatI'm considering it, but for now try>>>/gif/WTMYWTSC yes, I love that general >>568892458nice
>>568892548what test wouldn't use colliders?
>>568892873oh fuck i forgot snake
>>568892694>WTMYWTSCWTF is that acronym for what seems to be just a blowjob thread?
>>568892873It's not that it shouldn't use them, it's more so that it's not really an in depth coding challenge since it's so basic that most of the effort is through the engine nowadays.A better test is a small RPG of loading in, creating a character, going through an entrance of a small building you start in into an outdoor area and killing a mob and looting it and equipping the loot.
>>568892986not necessarily, I'll post some there
>>568892458gem
>no way to pirate all of rpg maker mz's steam dlc
>>568892458Wife(male) material
>>568820162>Cards>Probably Deck buildingAt First I was interested, your Project looked Like a Turn based strategy RPG .But it's Just another Deck builder. Pity, I tolles my eyes. You can do better.
>>568886819There’s threads on >>>/tg/ on this topic regularly.
>>568893747>TollesI rolled my eyes*
>>568821883Wow it looks like those game trailers they show me on YT.>>568822746Kinda cool.
>>568892694Where's the posting, sissy boy
>>568893129> not really an in depth coding challenge since it's so basic that most of the effort is through the engine nowadays.yeah that's the point you're just seeing that you can operate the engine at the most basic level, like getting into a new car and driving it around the block
>>568894525Operating an engine is fucking meaningless and you won't properly understand how to operate it until you actually try a real project. Pong requires fucking surface level knowledge. It immediately becomes pointless when you switch to what you truly want to make.
>>568893747Understandable. I actually am using cards not because its some roguelike deckbuilder. I just wanted to try out having forced randomization within your moves. You will actually be able to give your characters cards before combat (currently im thinking about 5 or 6 per character) and you always cycle through them in your hand. Your hand size stays at around 6 cards, but there will be modifiers that increase or decrease it. I hope by never discarding your hand it allows for strategically keeping cards in your hand. But if all of that doesnt work out, im fine with switching to normal abilities. Even if i think a normal cooldown system is a bit more boring.
>>568894672if you add a start menu to the pong then it's isomorphic to the project you described
>>568886819sperg to your hearts content friendi will place in your care a few hot takes>noncombat RPG elements are much much more difficult to get right than combat elements, and when they are good enough even bad combat can be excused>splitting damage into a few categories and providing different defenses to those categories is the best way to handle defenses. direct damage is one of the most important stats in any rpg. splitting damage types creates a need for a wider variety of tools without comparing apples to apples (eg obviously, the 33 damage attack is better than the 29 damage attack)>complicated damage formulas are fine and even necessary for balance, but the best ones are always simple to understand intuitively. my personal favorite is "each 10 points of armor is 10% effective health, stacking additively. so at 50 armor it takes 30 damage to lose 20 health)
>>568894792That's neat. Interested to see how far or little you'll go with the randomness.
>>568892250reminds me of when AI turns mspaint doodles into 'good' pixel art
>>568893175>didn't post his dick yet>:(
>>568892250this uses the same graphics as idleon so i assume an asset pack
>>>/v/739927810>pour your heart into a game for many years>it sells moderately well>gaymers immediately make fun of your gameyou cant hate gamercattle enough
>>568897359what I don't get about Mina is it looked like it was fairly late in development in 2022 but still took another 4 years and almost bankrupted the studio to put out. I thought similarly with silksong's trailer but silksong had a much smaller dev team and was way bigger than expected
>>568898092>>568898092>>568898092New thread.
>>568897359it's /v/ thoughever, the whole board is just talking shit about games
>>568897359>pour your heart into a game for many yearsWas that before or after they posted pictures of themselves enjoying life on yachts? I thought you faggots hated millionaires?
