SFW Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>568825850
BUFF SILVER
i play victor and im trans :3
>>568878207Ivy sexy
i love victor
NO MONETARY COMPENSATION
The last thread was SFW and didn't deserve getting jannied.I wanted to talk more about NA vs EU
>>568878564same when did you crack your egg fellow trans ally?
unironically based jannies i'm tired of this retarded faggot constantly spamming cropped porn shit
When are they fixing urn
Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
>NA didn't beat a single EU team in an NA tournament>finalists are 75% EU teamsoh lawd
>>568878683
Alright but why are Americans so bad at everything?
>>568878665have you been raped by victor
>>568879085no its just that victor was specifically made for us trans persons :3 so when I see anyone play victor i just assume they are trans
>>568878798Your long range??
>Takes your urn>Takes your Walker>Kills you in 0.5 secondsHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>568879420I think I'd spontaneously combust if I ever ran into a premade like this in the wild
>>568879208seekergod filtered by victor... many such cases...
Hey Grok why are Americans fat stupid ugly and bad at deadlock?
>>568879580Too busy gooning to tranny porn on the second monitor
>>568879569They won the match but for some reason Bebop was desperately trying to make our team mad and just came off as an angry retard kek
Alright I've been doing some research and apparently Americans have the smallest penises of any first world country. Anyone else think this explains their continued failure in the Deadlock competitive scene?
eur*pe didn't give us the god king terry now did they? checkmate libral!
NA cucks too busy wanking over eido the hack
this is a new game so what's the cope from americans for being dogshit at the game
>>568879837And what do europoors have? The blatant aimbotter mikaels? Racist abl? Or fucking metro?
>>568879709I'm trans and I have both HRT and porn induced erectile dysfunction. I rub my soft gock like a clit to Silver x Celeste yuri
>>568880038Zerggy
gay sex with apollo!
>ivy bros calmly waifu posting while retards try to start a race war
whats going on
>>568880163Woah can't wait to see you on Night Shift sis! Are you thinking Melee Creeps? Floormen? BWC?
>>568880346normal source2 things, this will never be fixed btw
REMINDER: WalmartGAWDS own /dlg/
I'm trying to break out of needing my friends around to play, but solo queue is fucking miserable, how are people this fucking useless man
Sex with Venator
>Europeans: WHY ARE AMERICANS BAD AT COMPETIVE GAMES?>Americans: Ermm did you just use an unorthodox build/strategy?? TO PLEASE DQ THESE PEOPLE>Also Americans: What the fuccck don't bug exploit!!!! Guys DQ them please wahhh i can't take it im going to make a 40 page twitter post on my PTSD caused by my evangelical dad beating me!There is your context.
>12 minutes>we are a little behind>urn fight>team gets wiped, enemy gets the urn>have to play the next 22 minutes despite the game being decided then and theregreat game yoshi. of course we tried to get a comeback urn but shockingly were unable to wipe the 30k up team and deposit it. they of course wiped us with ease and got another urn out of it. 80k soul diff by the end of the game. every comeback mechanic in this game just serves to help the winning team win even harder. are the devs retarded? do they not think at all about what they implement in the game? "oh but its a playtest" ok why don't they push an update that gives you a 20% chance to explode every minute based on your net worth. how will they know its a bad idea until they put it into the game and leave it there for a month? impossible to tell without extensive testing yoshi please implement this now
New cheat mod just dropped
>>568880935gay, the mom is better
>>568880935>>568881015>Renee Graves mod for Geist >Andrew Graves mod for ApolloWe fuarking need these IMMEDIATELY
>>568880038oh no not a racist!!
>>568878819The worst part is is they all lost in draft.Draft leaders sabod all their games.
here's a guide for you retards:>3 rejuvs up, some ults - stay and try to end>3 rejuvs up, you have no ults but enemy has but teamfight ults - leave>1-2 rejuvs up but its going to be a 5v6 - leave>1-2 rejuvs up - stay only if you have better ult economy>no rejuvs - always leaveand always try and stay to end if you have at least a 2 person numbers advantage (assuming one of your carries is still alive and its not just supports)
>>568880830Calm down Mina!
>>568881184MLC is just going to get raped by LKW without their urn abuse that they greenlit in the experimental super sikrit server btw. Their draft is constantly garbage and their hero pool is extremely small, none of them know how to play Shiv even. It's ridiculous.
>>568881184>"Eido PLEASE stop playing lash.">"Guys can I have lash? I promise I wont feed trust."
Sex with Shiv
BRING BACK MELEE TROOPER PARRY RESET!!!
>>568881679they saw this webm and specifically targeted it btw.
Can anyone play in Nightshift if they have 5 other players? Or is there a tryout? How would a /dlg/ team perform in Nightshift.
>>568882051>Or is there a tryout? Yeah, probably. You need to join their Discord and ask around.
>>568882051Your ONLY chance was being prolific enough to be invited, OR your other only chance was the open tournament that already in progress. Whomp whomp.
>>568882051>How would a /dlg/ team perform in Nightshiftdisqualified within 5 minutes of someone saying nigger or "i wanna suck celeste/silver's tranny cock"
im getting leavers in every match, am i shadowpoold?
>>568882626yoshi is personally picking every person in your match
how did they fuck up the economy this badly? almost every single game now one team goes from 10k up to 50k up in 10 minutes
Why did that nigger yoshi thought it would be ok for victor to be the way he is?Is it because of his tranny boyfriend?
Buying Tankbuster counts as intentional griefing and will result in a 1 week matchmaking ban, be careful /dlg/!
>>568883515no one can answer this question?
>lose because enemy got shrink ray
>>568883515Yes.His tranny nigger boyfriend threatened Yoshi he wouldnt ever let him dilate in his mutilated inverted penis if he didnt make it's main overtuned.This is a common fact all of /dlg/ knows
>>568883515I'm actually curious, is all this just because Victor is broken?
>>568884020his ult being 75s cd at t3 makes him really useful for teamfights + aura is full of slows and with supressor, mystic slow etc he's really good for contesting urn
>>568884020Is all this what?
>>568884297All the seething, anon posts about Victor being troonshit or something every thread
>>568884409oh yeahfor sure its because victor is good right now and he keeps losing to it i guess
>>568884409No, Yoshi actually has a tranny nigger boyfriend and their main is victor so they don't nerf him.How else do you explain a nigh unkillable hero that can 100 to 0 you in 3 seconds AND their ult is a get out of jail free card you can refresh.Literally the main character
>>568884623He just got nerfed though
>>568884865wow his hitbox was slightly altered.MASSIVE NERF
>>568884865>nerfdude the only thing nerfed was his base bullet damage from 13 to 12.the previous update before that buffed his ult T3 from -100sec cooldown to -130sec.what nerf are you talking about?
>>568885014Don't move the goalposts, you said they don't nerf him. They did.
>>568885349You're being a disingenuous nigger if you call these a nerf.Kill yourself
can someone redpill me on eggs
paradox, you are full of surprises
>>568885489what on earth does this comic even mean>erm your first reaction to the town slaughtering maniac is to try and kill him?!?
paraaaadoxxxx... you fvcking suck lmao you're bombs are ass just pick Mina Haaaauyghhuhghhh ahahahhah paraaaaaadoxxxxxx you fvckinyou fvxkin douche
>>568885419It is literally and objectively a nerf, cry more
>>568885910fuka u haijin
>>568886087>t.disingenuous nigger
Venator genuinely might be the most honest hero in the roster right now
>>568885834>Cowboy with bounce pads vs whatever the fuck the Troubadour has going on
I just can't even imagine not playing pickoff heroes anymore. I just play every game running around the map shooting people. Its just so much more fun than any other role
>>568885419hes only strong because of urn lol spirit was so weak he had to use suicideman ult
>>568886673>your alchemist teammate is playing the game like its cod
>>568886906I'm ascendant though
>>568886673Based >invade jungle hoping to kill or steal camps>buy powerspike>invade>buy powerspike>invade>sometimes fix waves retards aren't going to farm>repeat
>>568886906>playing the game like its codhe'll hit Eternus before the week is overnothing like some fvcking Gunlock to spice up your MOBA- i mean 3rd person shooters
our game is deadplayercount inflated by russians
>>568887897Could be worse, could be gooks
Boho when???
gunshit killed deadlock
spiritshit killed deadlock
>>568886469bebop exists
parryslop killed deadlockremove parries
>>568889873Yep he sure does anon.*siiiip*
>>568889873bebop is a dishonest nigger though
>>568889873
>Holliday on team. Lose>Silver on team. Lose.>Mina (first time). Lose.>Kelvin on enemy team. Lose>McG on enemy team. Lose.>Seven on enemy team. Lose.Fuck this gay ass game.
>>568890205You forgot Graves who almost has a 60% winrate
>>568890205>graves on my team>retarded nigger building gun>graves on their team>heroic aura echo shard max jarEvery time.
Oh okay that explains it
i am tired of this. next game i get rem i am playing gun rem, i can't aim and I don't give a fuck, i'm tired of trying to play support for a 1/999999/0 mina and drifter
updated from around 20 games after urn's initial changes in oracle
>>568890684Shiv, Rem, and Infernus are great for urn brools. Their players are usually braindead so I get why they're there.
>>568890684i'd argue rem is conditional, free win if your team is smart enough to not immediately wake up the entire enemy team, free loss otherwise
sex with the urnusing the urn as a fleshlight
>>568890684kelvin should be in free win. they still haven't fixed the dome bug
Smurfs should sound themselves with a soldering iron
>>568890684how is big blue not a free winare you faggots not using spirit build?
>>568891168he has to stand in the aoe cc slop since the aura is tied to his body. pocket or ivy can just shit out their abilities and go to relative safety to take less damage before coming back in
>>568890554why do they get free 22% spirit resist?
>>568878207I want to go back to the time when Ivy was the best and only girl...
>>568891470You're supposed to shoulder charge everyone away from the urn, if at the end of that charge is a stun even better.
>>568891594>loses half health from shoulder charge because you have to stand in the aoe slop>dielol
>>568891486they just do okay?
genuinely what is the point of spirit heroes anymore
Sinclair keeps the entire roster honest.
>>568891973m1ggers don't have circleslop
>>568891973They have AOEslop for urn fights
>>568892263Bro your Haze?
>>568892429>haze>aoedon't be ignorant now
once slowing bullets/weighted shots damage bonuses get gutted i have no idea what to buy in its place for raw damage
>>568890684>AoE curse>has a guaranteed high impact steal target on the opposing team>Throw pickAre you stupid?
>>568890980is there a second dome bug? the clock freezes too now at least
>>568891973Circle on urn win big fight go mid fight boss mid circle on crystal win crystal go base circle in base win game
why do echo shard barrier abilities only give one instance of the barrier?
>>568890684if this is the genius game analysis awaiting me in oracle I'm gonna breeze on through to phantom no problemo
I find erping with futas on vrchat to be a better use of my time than dealing with this shit urn experiment (bebopbro BTW)
they can run, but it will only delay the inevitable>>568890684i don't know, venator feels pretty good at urn fightsstand back and lob nades/snipe with ultor get in there and control with shotgun and trapsand you can do both, switching contextually
Dynamo and Kelvin aren't even that strong anymore. It's all Yamato and Gravesslop now. They need to nerf those two and buff Calico and Paige.
>>568895303>Yamato*swooces behind the nearest wall for 100% POWAAA SLASHUUU Resist*
This game is so goddamn boring. Midgame there is nothing to do on the map 70% of the time.
>>568896182make urn spawn every 3 minutes
>>568896525>deliver the urn>"I'M JUST SITTING HERE... WAITING ! ! !"
>Have gone from Oracle 6 down to Archon since urn changes T-Thanks Yoshi
>>568896182midgame is the most fun phase of this game what are you on. if you're playing pick, you're fighting against other lobby admins who are also playing pick
Revert these fucking urn changes ALREADY YOSHI YOU BITCH
Is gun pocket a meme?
>>568896874Pure gun pocket probably is but hybrid is fine.
>>568894993Stam mastery against Mclesbo is a good and underrated buy holy shit.
>>568897482Stamina mastery is one of the best items in the game fullstop.
>>568897482stam mastery is mandatory on venator because he has no escape
wake up honeyit is time to fight over the urn again
Silver won.
Silver is lostGold is won
>shivI've been dreading thisEvery Shiv I see is almost unconditionally dogshitIs there any way I can play him so I'm not unconditionally dogshit
>>568897731Stam Mastery is mandatory on literally everyone that and dispel magic is always in my builds no matter who im playing
if an item is mandatory, then the item needs to be removedyes, dota should had ALWAYS removed boots from the game
>>568898268it feels good on ven because he's so slow without it but idk most heroes get by just fine with default stam or a.surge/k.dashdispel magic though yeah, hate how good that is. unironically makes me want summoner spells added to replace/integrate it into the base mechanics
>>568898320HmNyo
>>568886673heroes for this feel?(other than Haze, Calico)
>>568898820bebopmelee sinclairapollospirit drifter
>>568898820Shiv. Once you have T5 knives, no one can fight you. In the case they buy dispel, just m2 schmoove like a rat away and then rape someone else who doesn't have dispel yet.
Inshallah brothers in the major august patch, lifestrike and spirit snatch will get new T4 upgrade items
>xhe thinks there will be a 'patch' in august>when it'll just be an announcement about eos
thos game is unironically unplayable in low elo, there's too many smurfs
>>568900430I've got bad news for you buddyThere's tons of smurfs in Phantom/AscendantEven Eternus smurfs apparently but I can't attest to that.
>>568899085>T5how shiv would be moving if abilities went past T3
>>568900710>1>2>5It's T5. Blame the game
>>568900703low eu eternus games has lots of 2h played time cheaters instead
eating my T8.49 build-you-own luxe cravings box right now
>>568900859bizarre, you never play with cheaters in US eternus. and the ones you do play with are literal dogshit. having aim just gives you a weapon damage boost, which is nowhere near enough for a dogshit player to become high eternus level on
Downplayer bros...
>>568901126you don't understand how lucky you americans are that don't have to deal with the r*ssian ogres
high phantom/low ascendant is supposed to have worse players than oracle? bug?
NA Archon is EU Seeker
>>568901253>Got out damaged by a shiv with 6k less soulsSILVER is a FRAUD
>Play McGinnis>Go blue>Keep blue guardian alive the entire matchIt's really that simple
>40% spirit resist>talon presses 1 on me>lose 1500 hpalright
>>568901253>that seven buildi kneel SEEKERGODS
>>568901923that's the ultimate tempo build
>play mcginnis>drool and shit on myself>throw out turrets and an ult
>>568901451>THE DAMAGEshiv has pokesilver doesn't
Predict the eventual silver nerfs because ecelebs and pros keep crying about her>Ult CD increased to 100 seconds>Bola allows stamina now/is a worse slowing hex>Slam fire no longer reloads her gun>Resists on the ult form are now 10%
Did they even do the math on the advantage/disadvantage urns? You literally cannot take a fight unless you get a pick if you're in the lead. It makes any lead more than disappear if you get a 6v6 on it.
>>568901861do you know what tankbuster does
>>568902504busts tanks but I didn't play abrams
>>568902504nothing, it might as well heal because it's the worst item in the game
>>568902339>silverbergs are inventing patches to pre-emptively get upset about nowShe'd still be OP even if they did all that shit
>>568902339They're going to reduce her gun damageThey will not reduce the damage required to build bloodlustSpeaking of her bloodlust, why doesn't she gain any buffs with it other than ult?Feels weird that it's included as a passive in the tool tip
>>568901253Silverbergs, convene in the tunnels under the synagogue, we must discuss our next narrative... the password is "bagel."
>>568902339They should increase the ult CD, probably to 100 seconds, it has basically 100% uptime as it is and she should either not heal going into wolf form or not gain resistances while in it, these would make her a relatively fair hero.
Got the worst Paradox I've ever seen in a Phantom lobby and it reminded me why I don't play this game as much anymore. How do you make it this far and have 0 game sense or positioning
>>568903389I keep telling people that rank is worthless and you have people carried by the most absurd broken OP bullshit possible or by general rank inflation.
>get tired of deadlock and take a break>come back and get into a match>smurf haze ganks our lane without warning from the fags at blue and destroys our momentum >sinclair and haze on the other lane shitstomp and get 25 kills between them>sinclair's hex lasts like 5 seconds>dynamo and victor were against us in lane but the match was such a shitshow that dyanmo escaping from certain death with his bullshit kit is the least of my problemsYeah nah my bad, i should've stayed away from this piece of shit until they balance it so i don't have to interact with characters that just force me to not play the game
>>568903517I just broke back into ritualist but I rarely play against people who are arcanist or even alchemistIn game ranking is useless and statlocker is pretty shoddy too
>>568904053>i should've stayed away until ... i don't have to interact with characters that just force me to not play the gamethis is the wrong genre for that to ever be the case
>even street brawl sucks with 9000 aoe spam slop doing 9.5 quintillion damagewhat an awful state of the game
dont worry it is just an omega
>>568905209just build spirit resist bro
>>568905209Street brawl has been that since it's inception, has nothing to do with >le current state
>>568905484yeah was it aoe slop spam? sure but it wasnt 3.2 quintillion ghouls + turrets shooting at you non stop if the enemy gets graves + mcginnis its basically unwinnable if they get seven its actually unwinnable and you might as well abandon the match
>>568905553you people act like there's no items or ways to counter these characters
>>568905704>erm just hope you get the right items in the random item gamemodeokay anon
>>568904983It's not this egregious in league and other games, the amount of fucking bullshit you have in this game cause of the movment + damage/CC creates situation where someone like haze fucks off farming for 5 trillion hours then pops her steroids that give her 15+ m/s and perfect invisibility running at you at mach 7 pressing 1 button(4) and then you die in a second flat before she FUCKS OFF back to farming until her ult is up, only time i was able to have a fun time was when i was playing an equally broken character(seven) and had a drifter with 2 braincells to rub together so when she killed one of us the other killed her. No character in league of legends has this level of "i win every 1v1 fight i have infinite mobility infinite invisibility and a shitton of damage" genuinely the most unfun character to see on the other team if they're smurfing or one tricking>inb4 play broken characters like sevenEqually not fun, pressing 4 with unstoppable is just not fun and I'd only be doing it so I'm on the other side of this braindead cycle where one team shitstomps the other by pressing one or two buttons and removing all interactivity from the game
EITHER DEADLOCK IS GUNZORDOTAPICK ONE YOSHI
why would you admit to being a league player?
what are you afraid to admit then?
>>568905767why are you complaining about street brawl?
Reminder.If you play on a smurf.You will be banned.https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/3692442542242977036You're in the fuck around phase.
>>568906287How will metro make content for his youtube channel?
>Enemy team has Lash>It's a guaranteed lossvery cool
counter items were a mistakeability range items were a mistakeduration items were a mistakelifesteal applying with 100% efficacy to aoe damage is a mistakerefresher as a purchasable might have been a mistake>>568905819vayne? rengar? twitch? zed? lucian? riven? i mean no disrespect i feel your pain, especially with haze players waking up to how busted curse is on an assassin. but mobas (and arguably hero shooters in general) are rife with this kind of thing especially if we're talking smurfs/one-tricksalso seven ult's not really the thing that makes him good unless i'm out of date on the seven meta. but historically it's been power surge+gun as the focal point of his builds
gunslop was a mistake
movement techs are what makes deadlock deadlockthat is why the urn exists, so you can flex your movement skills to do a urn speedrun across the map to carry the urn
>>568906824>punches you're urn and drops fat aoe
>>568906691only in the sense that the adherence to player weapons all being guns is a mistakeguns as in all effectively similar in function. we don't have weird guns. like genji or mei. or very different guns, like a soldier tf2. and we still only have one beam characterthe 'weirdest' guns we have are so tame. but they pushed the line a bit with the new hero batch so we'll see ig>>568906824now this i can get behindi still think it's wild that people think the movement of this game is too technical. like the worst of it in terms of relevance:difficulty is edgeboosting... and that's not even hard, it's just timing. more of a knowledge check than anythingwell. maybe IADs too, if you don't use the bind for it
How is this build better when my team just dies mid tag along?
>launch game after 2 weeks>all games are exclusively decided based on if the graves player is retarded or noti'll be back after she's gutted
>>568900857what do you think the T stands for because it's not the upgrade cost
>>568907806Good question Muffy, try getting boundless spirit or just play a better hero until rem is buffed more
>>568908082GET OUT OF MY WALLS!
>>568907330it's because the laning phase is dependent on being able to shoot soulsit really limits the design space on guns in a bad way
Fuck this game. Fuck it all.I've gone from Phantom III to Oracle V.This patch is shit. This meta is shit.This game is shit.Goodbye.My final message on this niggergeneral.Fuck you Yoshi.
>>568908749Based, see you tomorrow.
>>568908190the match id is literally at the top right lol dumbass
>>568908253yeah, that's very true. hard to say what you could do without losing some of the value of that system's existence in laningif one wants to say that that system has value, at leastme personally i feel like the interactions of different ranges/weapons would offer more than what denies do (while being more intuitive and less frustrating for newer players or in bad 'orb matchups') but maybe i'm just missing the vision
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ts6gmd/why_can_sinclair_use_my_ult_more_than_i_canHow can a 45% WR hero be so dishonest?
>>568908749SEVEN SOULS
>>568909095meme hero that exists to make both your teammates angry (by making you lose) and your enemies angry (by stealing that shit)
>>568908807So it would seem.
>>568909095>his>he>himThey're literally TWO niggas.
>>568909095>I play a lot of dynamoinvalidates entire post
>>568908190yeah match id top-right in post-gamesshout out to shareX for being nice and feature rich. ctrl shift c, use the brush tool to paint over any 'pii', select region and hit enter, capture copies to clipboard, ctrl+v paste in qr box. ezpzwebms are a bitch to anonymize though. although maybe i'm being too autistic about itthere's the match id bottom right, the scrolling kill feed on the left, and then killed-target name in the center. and if you kill multiple targets that middle bit movesseems minimal but it takes me longer than i'd like for preparing clips. but also i think my workflow is just terrible and also it's not that important. you'd have to do something that'd warrant the ire of hyperschizos for any of this to even matter. for me it's just the principle of the whole thingoops i'm rambling
>>568891486Kelvin is an ice wight so his undead nature is resistant to magic, miku studies spirits for her weapons so she develops an intuitive understanding on how to resist their damage
Bring back 14 second majestic leap right naow
>>568909609Anon just activate "streamer mode" in game settings that will make every name revert to the hero name that should make it easier rather than black painting everything
>>568892429Do you niggers just repeat terms without understanding what they really mean
>>568909095>if I could make one change to the game I'd nerd the lowest winrate character for having the audacity to play the gameThese are the people Yoshi balances the game for btwIt's insane how many "Most hated characters" are just skill issues from people that refuse to learn more than one character so they can read other people.
NERF THIS OVERTUNED FAT FAGGOT ROBOTI'm so fucking sick and tired of his fucker
>>568901923is ballspam seven secretly the strat for taking objectives?!
>>568880453Trannies only want BBC
>>568906607>rengar? zed? lucian? riven?Not as bullshit, rengar especially can jump in and out and needs a bush>Vayne twitchFair enough i guess, though I'll maintain that they're still more tolerable>spoilerYeah but for my point about braindead heroes with alot of value his ult is the thing, also now that indomitable exists it's basically impossible to kick seven out of his ult which allows him to win fights early game and lock enemies out of important areas late game
>>568910521i wonder what sinclair's winrate is if there's a dynamo on the enemy teamno way it's 45%. that shit is unironically disgusting
>>568910390fuck i'm retarded. i forgot that was a thing
if there is a victory on the enemy team, i turn on my auto parryif you're gonna be dishonest, i'll be dishonest :)
Is the game any good? I tried it back in 2024 and it sucked balls
>>568911223>VictoryClose down the thread and remove thread watcher you're done buddy
>>568911802yes and no
>>568911802>Is the game any good?Yes but it's unbalanced as fuck so if you play pub(the 6v6 mode) you won't be allowed to play especially if you come across a smurf, though supposedly smurfs disappeared. Street brawl is still fun though
>>568911859t. victor main
>>568911802depends where you are in the bellcurvei'm having a good time in low ascendant
>>568910953Not a lot of data for deadlock matchups, but from what I see Sinclair genuinely only has a positive winrate against Venator and no one else in the gameDynamo is something like 46.1%
>>568912239Sucks to hear. The unbalancing and the snowballing is what made me quit back then. It's just not fun when you're 10 minutes into the game and you know you cannot win anymore, but are stuck for 50 more minutes.
Remove shiv, grey talon, wraith, infernus, haze and warden from the game
>>568912754what makes him good against venator?
>>568912989DunnoCould be data from the previous patch when Venator had a 43% winrateI wish statlocker or tracklock had info on matchups because only weird fucking sus websites give any statsBut all the sus sites seem to agree that Sinclair has little to no positive matchups and not one lists Dynamo as one.Which doesn't surprise me, since Dynamo has a lot more going for him than a "Fuck you I win" ult
There's no point talking about Sinclair at his current state. He's clearly slated for a major rework.
>victor>you win if you pick him???
>>568911802Yes, but they JUST dropped a patch that fucked everything up so the games in a fucked up state right now
wraith just pressed 4 on you, what do you do
>>568913443walk away
>>568913439>graves and miku consistently high wr across all ranksjesus fuck
>>568910562stop playing in a big clumpoh right urn, uhget fucked
>>568912754>>568913267sinclair's winrate with a dynamo in the match would not depend on lane matchupalso mobalytics' matchup data is completely worthless and nigh indistinguishable from general winrates (which itself they don't distinguish by rank)every character's best matchups are extremely similar, every character's worst matchups are the same pool of 6 heroes. completely useless data
>>568913496you are slowed by 90% and cant dash for 3 seconds doe
ahi now remember why I stopped playingi suck ass
>victor britbong buys an egg and proceeds to just randomly feed solo>enemy team sides with him because they like him feeding solo randomly>retard bong feels vindicated by the enemy who loved getting free money off of himamazing how easily deluded the british mind is
>>568913443counterspell once you hear her voicelineor eshift if you're deaf
What if Abrams what TRAPPED and BETRAYED inside Viscoos' cube?
>enemy carry has literally double the networth of my carry all game>my carry is a rusnigHmmm...I think I'm nooticing something here...
wow! thank you headhunter!worth every soul!
>>568913267First time noticing the chicken in the background.
venator should be buffed
>>568913634Oi bruv it's a bit of banter, a bit of hawk atu lily, bit of wing a bing song riki ding dong, means you can be a proper rude cunt and that's alright alright? But don't you DARE say the niggerword or paki word okay boundaries mate
> Game gives me a random backup pick again because all my choices are picked or banned> I get WraithHow is Wraith even playable? She can't hit anything because no one has a hitbox and is constantly teleporting everywhere.
>10.000 deadlock matches DAILY>Like 2 or 4 """""""pro""""""" matches twice a week or something.And yet the community at large treats the so-called pro games as being indicative on how to balance the game, despite only making up like 0.002% of games played.It's amazing how literally every time a character is broken you'll get retards saying "but nightlock(or whatever the pro format is called)!!" and downplay anything you say.The game is in beta until the topic is hero balancing in which case the metaslaves will tell you that you're just wrong and bad.(speaking about 7 btw).
>cant turn off voices>cant turn of commendationsYoshi cant design a game
>>568915238trvkehes the only honest m1ggerbuff him until hes dishonest
>>568913642niggas just be saying shit. you're lifted by the end of the first syllable. literally LIF- and you're grabbedeven if you reacted to the very first phoneme that's 150ms. that shit is not reactable unless you're on a lethal dose of adderall and it's the SOLE thing you're focused onthe better cues are the chain noise and the eye appearing on your hero. that's closer to ~400ms, much more reactable but also still hard if it's not something you're actively prepared to react to
>>568916712It's a universal phenomenon, anon, and yes it's sad. It's just human nature0.01% of the population (nigshifters), completely disconnected from the actual reality everyone else lives in (pub games), will always try and enforce their will on the masses (demanding clout for being muh pro) and tell them what's worth and what's not (tier listings)
So Shiv the worst hero in the game rightI've never seen him do anything other than throw knives that don't do anything and occasionally execute people who are basically already dead but unlike Vindicta he doesn't even get anything for it
>>568917029initiate gawd I kneel
I've had about 20 or so matches in a row with shitty matchmaking.Did they change something to make it way fucking worse?
>have someone chained with billy ult>they climb a rope>they don't get pulledAHHH ANOTHER BUG FOR MY BILLY BUGOIRE
>>568916954>>568916712World of Warcraft and the downfall of MMOs due to raidfags should be an example for every studio.
>>568918043>doorman can now lock people inside walls with door>bebop's hook has awful hitboxes now, people can essentially just walk through it sometimes>viscous is just a buggy mess all over
>>568916498LMAO
>>568918318>aoes can't properly go onto bridges>skills sometimes go off, play sound, do visuals, never go on cd, never actually activate>animation locks constantly
>>568914504I mean this unironically. Restorative Shot and Headshot Booster should both build into Headhunter. It makes sense. And it makes the item's tempo not complete shit.
>>568916758>>cant turn off voiceswell that one is easy you just take your meds
>>568918556billion dollar company and they can't hire actual animators
>>568878798Just buy sharpshooter dude
>land a game winning hook on the enemy carry>he gets stuck on 1 cm wide piece of cardboard>doesnt get hooked, no kill>we lose
warning DON'T LOOK
>>568910562I can cope with dynamo being the ultimate utility man, at least he doesn't do too much damage on his own. nerf fucking mcginnis, she gets the heals a bullshit wall a billion turrets that can hyperline you for alot of damage and her bullshit ult that does 1000 damage PER SECOND for like 30 seconds
>>568919864>OH MAN MY 10 SECOND CD CROSSMAP HOOK THAT HAS A 90 DEGREE GRAB ARC WHEREVER I THROW IT THAT ALSO GETS RESET INSTANTLY IF I UPPERCUT ANYONE SO I CAN HOOK THEM IN AGAIN dishonest faggot hero. surprised you're not gay enough to echo hook while you're at it.
>>568920081Its not even as bad as Holliday hook where your entire ult can be blocked by a minion or your own teammate countered by a doorman cart or anything similar and is affected by debuff reducing so if you have literally any debuff reduction you'll get lasso'd for about a second
There exists the platonic idealism of the perfect Deadlock balance, and pros just happen to be the closest to it, everyone is in the cave chasing the shadow but the night shift players almost touch it, therefore this is the best we can balance around
>>568920027That's an exaggeration. Her ult does somewhere between 600 and 700 DPS at endgame depending on how lucky she got with sinners/statue drops. Her turrets are only really a threat if the other team doesn't have Geist, Dynamo, Paige, Seven, or any other big AOE nuker who can take them out in one hit because they have to be within 40m of her to benefit from heroic aura, which is the only way they ever do appreciable damage. That's assuming you don't have someone with a dial-a-teleport like Yamato or Shiv who can teleport through her ult and kill her before she can react.
victor is a braindead nigger that can safely be deleted from the game
*applies extreme testicular torsion to all bebop mains*
>there's people that actually down play the hitler tier laning venator has>yeah bro just duel me with my hitscan gun and spammable anti heal nades that also do a bunch of damage>better not actually try to pressure me in any way because I'll just gut shot you for half your hp>me doing your entire health bar with every ult is underpowered, actually!
>>568921275>>568921379yeah not taking balance advice on someone who confuses victor and venator
>>568920202her ult being so harshly regulated while wraith gets the same thing EXCEPT IT CANT MISS is such bullshit, you miss the skill shot youre fucked if it’s late game
>>568921275>>568921379Real Freudian slip there
>
>I don't have an argument so time to drum up an excuse
I have never had a problem with venator besides his stupid name.
>>568921745seconding, he’s only actually scary in street brawl
>>568920918THEY DO LOTS OF BULLSHIT
>>568921745i hate catholics but hes alright
>there's people that actually down play the hitler tier laning Graves has>yeah bro just duel me with my aimbot gun and spammable skull nades that also do a bunch of damage>better not actually try to pressure me in any way because I'll grasping wall you for half your hp>me doing your entire health bar with every ult is underpowered, actually!
>>568921745stupid name is why I slipped up
>>568921984>there's people that actually down play the hitler tier laning Ivy has>yeah bro just duel me with my rapid firing gun and spammable uh nevermind>better not actually try to pressure me in any way because I'll stone form and run away!>me doing 100 damage on my ult baseline is overpowered actually
I know this will sound retarded, but I have a problem where I reload too often. Like, it I have a moment of downtime in lane, even if I've only used two or three bullets, I reload, and it makes me miss souls. I come from Dota, so I never really had to deal with reload mechanics. What do I do to curb this behavior?
>>568922216Remind yourself that shooting souls refunds ammo.
>>568921984wait 16
>>568920081you play a character thats late game is stat checking the enemy team by walking into their face and holding m1 right?
people actually loathe going against venator? he's literally the only gun carry in the entire game that isn't cancer to go against
>>568922473hes the only m1gger who can punish you for trying to push their shit in earlythe others crumple like paper when pushed until their build starts coming online
>>568922473i bet the complainers are melee tards who cant figure out how to avoid getting stunned against walls
>>568922473yeah bro him doing 500 damage to me any time I show my face in lane surely must not be cancer
>>568891486McGinnis used to have bullet res when she wore actual armour to the ritual so I guess they just changed it to spirit armour>>568891594
>>568922457You just described Bebop again.
>>568923280>gunbopgunbop shouldn't be late game viable, thats a yoshi problem, we're discussing trve honest bebop
>>568923393>hook cooldown is now 20snow he's honest
>>568923834sure, bring back his old bomb scaling
>>568923986okay then half the range on hook
>>568923834Only if bomb damage type gets changed to pure, or executes anyone below 10% hp
>>568880935Kinda fitting actually.
>>568924031you haven't been playing long enough to remember the thing people hating about bebop being kamikaze bebop running at you at mach 10
>>568924069Okay but only if you kill yourself
>worst gun in the game>spells don't do anythingSilver is the worst hero in the game.
>>568924440I've been playing since the first month. I remember it all. I've never thought hook was balanced. Compare Pudge hook to this game. Imagine if Pudge hook was just three times longer.
>>568924558Oh sorry I don't play mobas so why would I have residual ptsd about a different character
>>568924525>spells don't do anythingfun fact: if you were not a shitter and actually hit them consistently, they would do something
>>568924525>>>spells don't do anythingnigga....
>>568878683Fair, I'll stop adding to the burning trash heap.
>>568922689but enough about shitpollo pre-nerf
this is what we spictor players must suffer daily
>>568920616>it doesn't do 1000 damage per second it only does 700!!!I'm glad to hear that it takes 5 seconds instead of 4 to kill a tank with her bullshit ult, now I'm truly assured
>>568921984>getting dogwalked by graves in laneHow?>>568922473I'm fine with him because almost every other gun carry is bullshit. At least you can dodge his bullshit and it doesn't instakill you
>>568878991I don't know, I think we've just cultivated a culture of mediocrity and stagnation due to being number one in the world for such a long time. Even if still technically number one our decline in the past twenty years has been rapid and ongoing since the sixties at the least. This has leaked into everything we do and very few people are humble enough to improve so they stagnate in gaming. An ancedote I have from dota2 is the difference between average american vs average other dotard. Americans will keep flaming and lose a game to spite the other person they're mad at whereas with south americans or europeans no matter how angry the lobby gets if they realise a game is winnable they'll shutup and play to win. Tl;dr American Ego is massive.
>>568924693>>568924752>deal literally 0 damage>no ccYeah, you're just coping.
>mikaels and his chat calling silver overpowereddo euroshitters really?
its fucked up that sinclair is just a better silver if the silver is on the enemy team
>>568925571Does Ven have the most ape brained playerbase? It seems to rival even Haze players.
>>568925571>deal literally 0 damageher combo deals like 400 damage in lane by the time you unlock all abilities and her gun is shit at pushing but good at poking>no ccbola?? hello??? are you fucking serious, do you have shift unbinded or something
>>568926608Sinclair is a better version of a lot of heroes and is why I standby the fact he's broken with a proper draft.
>game can literally be won by picking victor standing still on urn getting killed and then exploding on everyonethis game is 100% now more brainless than Overwatch and Marvel Rivals
Rem tunnels need reworked or just removed. Severely underbaked feature.
They need to add Hoodwink to the game, and make her ult break all passives including Victor's ult
>>568926879I dont know, I feel like silvers the only one where he really eclipses them completely because they both have poor scaling for survivability but he just side steps her ults gimmickmost of the other characters when sinclair steals their ult he still lacks alot of their kit that gives synergy and has worse boon scalingbut all of silvers kit is just setup for getting ult so lol dont need that
>play Wraith>miss 90% of my magazine>miss card (still hits)>LIFTING>win the exchange
>>568927557Yeah shes the worst example because sinclair essentially gets her whole kit aside the gun burst.
>enemy has infernus lash victor and viscous>literally lose because they have more aoe slop on urn than usthis game is retarded
>>568927557Some ults are dramatically improved by a lower cooldown and don't require too much of the kit to be useful.But that's balanced out by Sinclaire not being able to execute any of those ults on demand. The more useful ults he can be picking on the enemy team the less he's sitting around in fights not able to use his ultimate effectively. So depends a lot on the draft.
>>568927557It's mostly the fact he can spam the ult prior to the dynamo buffs he was def a better dynamo since he could win lane *and* black hole more frequently. But with stomp being retarded strong this isn't really the case anymore aside from mid-late.
>new addition to urn: urn furnace>you can just take the urn and throw it into an oven>doing so gives no rewards but forbids it from spawning for x amount of time>no KotH, happens instantly like old urn>losing team can make an effort to stop the winning team from snowballing>alternatively the winning team can do it to deny the losing team a comeback>as a bonus the urn screams in pain and agony when you burn itThoughts?
>>568928253youre gay
>>568928253You're a silverfag(gay)
WOOOOOOOOW! Said the broken mystical downOn the hybrid moba that used to be hybrid dota
Thoughts?
Don't they have enough data on the urn change why has it not been reverted yet
>>568928701>silver still in S+++ tier (LOL)>graves not in S+++ tierThese retards unironically have an agenda against Silver
>>568928701>metros been so bitch whipped he's had to walk back his graves seethepathetic
>>568928253Oy vey!
>victor's still stupid>now there's four other characters that are just auto winsits time to take a break from this shit game i swear
>>568928701>graves in S tier >mcginnis, seven, and shiv are in A under her>>>>>>>>>DYNAMO & HAZE IN FUCKING CWe need to kill this "man"
>lets gave an ult that resses the guy at full hp and that stuns in a 900 km radius a hmm 48s cooldown with transcendent cooldownare these devs on fucking drugs?
>>568928701>venator s+++ broken
>game starts>lose at 20 minutes>everyone on the other team doubles our soulswhat happened to the supposed matchmaking improvement stuff from a couple weeks back? games feel way more lopsided now.
>>568929241Uhm but oses played venator in nightshit and did less damage than GT despite more farm?
Made in two minutes, what rank am I.
The game is such a gigantic mess right now that Dispel Magic is a required item in almost every single match.
>>568928858>walkbackHe always said graves was bad and always put her in "bad", at least for the past 2 tier lists which were gungraves and current graves, his seeth is the usual "i lost because of X and not my skills!!!" in respect to graves X=autoaim(which does no damage and has no range). Only "seethe" he has about graves is that he's spiteful and says she should be designed to be bad because she's le autoaim
>>568907330The movement in this game IS way too technical because they have all these bugs that have absolutely no explanation for how to do any of them, but all of them are required to be able to move around well.It's not really fun to execute them either, since you need keybinds for a lot.
>>568929518>graves above seven and dynamo both of whom counter her>shiv that low>>>>>mirage that lowThe rest is inoffensive more or less so I'd say arcanist or ritualist
>>568911802The game is in an even worse state than it was in 2024, if you can believe it.Ever since the Old Gods New Blood update, the game has just gotten increasingly worse. The characters are far more obnoxious and unfun to play against, the laning/map isn't as good, and the entire match revolves around the urn now since objectives are all made of paper and instantly die to some faggot on Wraith or Haze holding M1 on them for two seconds.
>>568917029He's one of the most broken characters in the entire game alongside Celeste, Mina, and Haze.
I can't believe they made the game so awful it literally doesnt matter how you do during lane phase you can spend the entire lane phase watching Family Guy clips on your second monitor but if you have more AoE spam on your team you'll win every urn fight get 30k ahead and just stomp everything these devs are becoming worse than BHVR hows that possible?
>>568929772As an aimbro I struggle with graves due to the limited range and end up thinking about my positioning more than on Haze/Wraith etc since I can just hose them down since aiming is second nature to me and as it should be to any m1gger.
>>568927604The cards really shouldn't do so much damage while also being able to hit someone even after they miss.But I am asking too much of people who play literal nigger m1 carries, having to actually aim.
>>568930993I LOVE BLACK PUSSY and until the calico remodel wraith is the best option available.
>>568930993>have 37% spirit resist>two cards hits me and i get killed near instantlyerm its fine chud? real talk why the fuck do m1 carries get everything what is this fucking philosophy from the devs where wraith gets good 1v1's good cc good range good lane clear good objective clear like the fuck?
>>568930536What did you expect from game devs that left in a bunch of bugs and claimed it made the game better for it (all the movement bullshit)
>weighted shots talonthat's just straight up evil
>>568931253well no one was playing her so she must have sucked=)
'ock on 'eck?
Bros, please. I just want to play this game and have fun. I don't even want to win every game, I just want to feel like I can actually play the game. The snowballing has gotten so bad and it happens so fast now that the ahead team will put on 30k in a few minutes. I try to solve the problem by fixing my build but nothing seems to do anything. Spirit Resilience and I'm still taking 1000+ damage from spirit, 40% Debuff Resist and I'm still CC'd from 100 to 0. Last game I had Bullet Resilience, Berserker, Vampiric, and my resistance went well over 50% and I still melted to gun like I had zero items. Nothing works. Two games ago, everyone on the enemy team had disarm and silence and between all their character CCs, their team had a total of 20+ CCs. I just don't get what I'm supposed to do at this point, it's like they want it to be bad.
>>568931253dude you don't get it, her cards need to heal, do resist shred, slow you, and also do a shitload of damage. Sometimes all at once!Oh also we gave her the best escape in the game next to Mina's bullshit and also an ult that is a free kill and also infinite ammo for some reason.Wraith is just as busted as Mina but she's way uglier so people don't complain as often.
>>568929241People see Ven get fed early and one shot with his ult and think that means he's giga broken.
>>568931693>Wraith is just as busted as Mina but she's way uglier I'd rather fuck Wraith than Mina
>>568931693>Wraith is just as busted as Minawhy is she never getting picked over mina then
>>568929995yeah and like i said, no idea how someone arrives at that conclusion. unless it's literally their first online game that isn't cod-tierbeyond the real basic easy shit it's like 5 things. airstrafing/strafedashing, zipdashes, edgeboosts, and IAD/shorthopsthat covers all the practical shit and all of it is "practice for 15 minutes one time and then just try and use in real games"-tieryou would kill yourself if you had to learn a fighting gamealso the only required keybind is mousewheel crouch for shorthop. you can optionally add one for perfectly consistent IADs. and that's it
>>568931902She's a nigger. This is unironically the only reason.
>>568931518'vy on my 'ick
>>568932054Fighting games are also for fags though.Also having to put crouch on your mousewheel to execute a stupid movement technique is kinda proving the point that the movement in this game is not as good as people try to make it seem.
>>568929995>>568931261name these supposed bugs
>>568932150Everything you need to be able to do can be done with default controls.
>>568932054>bro you just have to rebind your keys and setup scripts and practice these bugs that that appear and disappear at regular intervals>its not technical at all its just a few basic movement techsThere's worse games but this is technical what are you smoking, what do you think the tech part of movement techs is short for?
I'M DOING IT (I'M DOING IT) I'M DOING IT (I'M DOING IT) I'M DOING IT (I'M DOING IT) I'M DOING IT (I'M DOING IT)
>>568932258Edge boosts, corner boosts, IAD effecting your drag, the wall jump onto vent thing I don't know the name for it.The only obviously intended shit is like mantleboosts, basic wall jumps, slope sliding and dash jumping.It's a lot of understanding how mechanics work behind the scenes and how to manipulate them to perform unintended movement(edge/corner boosts) and also getting around the stops the devs put into try to stop you(manipulating and avoiding drag).
The definitive tier list
I hope they never change Shiv's monkey visage.Not everyone needs to be a himbo.
>>568920918Is this why I've been targeted for toxic horseshit lately?Because I played the clanker with bombs for hands?Geez, the hero whose only good at lane phase draws the ire from the worst of the worst
>>568932150technically you can put it on any button via a duck unduck bind but those are deprecated. and also, nitpicking, it's not "put crouch on scrollwheel", it's add a crouch bind to scrollwheel>fighting games are also for fagsyeah hence the phrasing of "had to". gun to your head you'd ask me to pull the trigger, i know your type>>568932395nigga. technique. or technology. you really thought you cooked with this one?>rebind your keysadd a bind or two, maybe>setup scripts??>practice these bugs that that appear and disappear at regular intervalsi like the extra 'that', like you're actually stammering and nervous. i don't even know what the fuck you're referring to here. name some shit that's been patched out then back in with any regularity. at most they fucked with wall jump stamina consumptionand oh no, practicing shit in a multiplayer game, fuck. next i'm gonna have to improve my aim and learn macro from other players and practice my character's combos, fuuuuuuck
>>568929271>don't actually change anything>make the game an all in aoe slop dependent disaster where simply getting less AIDS AOEs to throw on the urn results in you just automatically losing the fucking game
is this considered good balance?
>>568929518Is rem up there solely because it means you wont get sinners?
>>568933338definitively could be worse
>>568932940Cope+Seethe+UrBad
>>568933208>i like the extra 'that', like you're actually stammering and nervous. i don't even know what the fuck you're referring to here. name some shit that's been patched out then back in with any regularity. at most they fucked with wall jump stamina consumptionRetard alert. It means new techs appearing and old ones being removed. Not the same tech being patched in and out. Can you even read?
>>568933338
Anyone got a QoL mod that marks all the boxes on the minimap and lets you know with a funny voice line if someone broke them?Same for jungle camps.
>>568933338the top four honestly could literally just be because of the Urn. THey're still solid outside it though but nerfing them because of a dumb change that completely warps the meta would be silly.
>in low rank>have good movement>make calls expecting people to be able to get to places as fast as I do>it turns out horriblyI'm just gonna paly by myself
>>568933580I only use cheat mods like Nude Mina to keep my morale up during a match.
anyone got a qol mod that turns my black skin white? thanks
>>568932940i love the fact that just playing my wife well makes niggers seethe in anger~
>>568933483>minatranny calling anyone else badnow THAT'S something
>>568933502damn my boy rattles way too easy. can you answer a straight question? can you name a tech that has even "appeared" in the past 6 months, let alone be patched out?i hope you say ag2dashing. i hope you're that smoothbrained
>>568933983*rake*
>>568933881This is a quality of life mod. The info is already on the map.
>>56893333855%+ at ALL RANKS is outrageous.47%- at ALL RANKS is outrageous.
>>568932940Silver is the most based hero in the game, schlomo
>>568932685100% intended
I do like the Cowboy Bebop DNS intro.
Explain why you hate bebop
walmart tourney is on, we watchan?
>>568932940>Lash>Based>Warden>Not death by brazen bull tier.
>>568933932>No tattoo celeste artYES
>>568933338>silver>47% winrateShe should be 60% winrate, she deserves it.
>>568934654>get hit by 1 (one) hook>instantly die>don't get hit>he gets to try again in 10 seconds
>>568934654
>>568934654hooks should be banned from video games
>>568934654every bebop player i've played with is garbage
predictions?
>>568935124leviathan has been kinda nutty
>>568935124Leviathan looks really good this week. 2-0 for Leviathan. 2-0 for LKW, don't have to explain. MLC barely made it to finals.
>>568935124If they pick Ven with no Paige again Levithan loss.
>>568934654He's bebop
>>568932940shiv is genuinely the most honest hero in the game, no CC, needs to land several knives/dashes to build up to actually doing damage, dispel, slowing hex and antiheal turn off his entire kit, and his movement requires him to use his gun which means he loses out on a lot of potential damage and both movement AND fire rate slows fuck up his movement.everything he does has both a knowledge and item check answer, he can just do a lot of crazy things so he can make it happen and can "play the meta" of whatever patch well. solidly A tier character when played well and kind of fucked up if not which is why he's hovered around D/C tier for the past year after they seriously nerfed everything he does. reminder shiv got a slower stamina recovery last month to justify buffed M2 movement which they have since taken away so he took a net nerf compared to a few months ago
C&C!
nahui play mokrill blyat
>"night shift">1 p.m. est
>>568935846Actually would've been funny if the last hero was Seven.
>>568933208The movement techniques in this game really are not interesting to pull off, and all information about them is kept entirely out of the game. If they keep them in, without adding an extremely in-depth tutorial, the game is dead on arrival. If they remove them, the game will be better off for it, since movement is incredibly OP in this game as it is.
LET'S GO FREEMOK SLAY SOME FOOKIN' ROOSKIES!
>Levithan apparently have a logo>Nightshift still uses Vyper portrait
tourny meta so far.
>>568936062>The movement techniques in this game really are not interesting to pull offgoing fast is fun, in source games in particular it always feels good
>>568936362Going fast is fun, the methods for going fast are not fun and not intuitive. Source movement has never really been good.
>>568936341Silver is so OP...
>>568936341kinda surprised they don't even bother picking kelvin, wouldn't he be good at urn contest?
>>568936465I thought they patched it so it works like mid boss crystal now, progress pauses in dome?
>>568936341Why is haze so bad? Comms? Need too much farm to come online? Her raw damage numbers don't seem that bad in theory.
>>568936416>Going fast is fun, the methods for going fast are not fun and not intuitive.some things give speedother things keep speedspecific things give more speed or keep speed longerthat's every movement tech in the game, in every source game. 3 rules that are pretty much how physics irl works. you're just a bitch and spent your youth playing games with RTS controls instead of something like gunz
>>568935124my hope is total ruskie death
what seven build for ballmaxxing? I swear to god all builds there look like shit
>>568936062>>568936416what is unfun about them? would you prefer like the game Prototype, where you hold R2 and just move forward to auto-parkour?
>>568936580yeah they did but wouldn't it still be good since you'll be almost certainly able to isolate a bunch of people? like if there's 2-3 guys on the urn and the others are poking from behind you can push into it, stall with the ult and kill the 2-3 guys with your team so now it's a favoured fight for you
>>568936724ALL range increase for MEGA BALL
>>568936661Closest you'll get is pan-slavic team unless you unironicly want E*do to win.
>>568936646Gunz was a shit game too, anon. And no, I have played Source games my entire life, I have never been a big fan of the movement 'techniques' in them though.
>>568932940>Haze>Dishonest20 mins has passed and you can see when my ult is up. If you get hit with curse and then ulted you only have yourself to blame.
>>568936341>Victor went from never picked to being in every game if not banned Bros how hard are they nerfing my boy...
>>568936734The unintuitive methods that you have to use to go fast in this game are not mechanically interesting to pull off and feel more like chores, much like how in Warframe you have to spam dashes to go fast, it just is needless mintutiae>>568936947He won't get nerfed at all, every time he has been 'nerfed' he just got even more absurd buffs afterwards, like with Haze.
Geist Gun carry?!
>>568936841ukrainian sissies settling for a russian team. pathetic.
>>568936062>yeah and like i said, no idea how someone arrives at that conclusion. unless it's literally their first online game that isn't cod-tieronline games generally don't explain shit but the basics. players are expected to figure out how to play the game and learn from each otherthis is not a problem for anyone but the hardstuck alch playerswhat game has interesting movement to you?
this nigga getting coached by russian tiktokers
My infernus just bought point blank and bsrI lost the game
>>568936841LKW has only one zigger so I'm rooting for them
Abrahams W, even though I don't like Geist, I think Vindicta + Viscous are 2 bad heroes instead of 1, so Leviathan loss.
>>568936341>>568936620I'm gonna kick up the autism hornets nest by making this comparison, but silver is genuinely better then haze in a super coordinated team enviroment like this because both characters force a "die or run really fast away from me" meta in 1v1's with ult after hitting you with a combo of CC to ambush you, but silvers ult is way better for aoe slop teamfights then haze and is also up literally twice as oftengiven that it's a lot less likely for either character to catch someone alone given how coordinated they are, aoe slop matters a lot more then being better at sneaking up on retards passively farming camps instead of being useful like the average pub haze is
>>568936620Comp Haze farms heroes, not creeps, and does well, and when she's ahead the whole team has to never leave someone alone because Curse + 4 kills everyone. Very few heroes make the enemy team adjust their playstyle that heavily.Her problem is that we're not in a pick meta right now, we're in a teamfight heavy meta.
>>568937040ok but what would you rather do to go fast?
>>568937270No no I get that, I just mean why is carry Haze bad? She has a fucking laser pointer gun is that really not worth anything in skilled hands?
>>568937243LKW has made Vindicta worked multiple times this patch, they probably know how to play with her feet.
>>568937107Tribes Ascend, Titanfall 2, Roboquest.>>568937389All I am asking is for them to consolidate the needlessly esoteric movement mechanics into more intuitive ones. Half of these shouldn't exist in the current state of the game.
>>568937107I'm in Phantom, I am pretty good at the game but have never particularly liked the movement mechanics due to it just being source bugs. It feels like the exact same situation as Smash Melee where bugs are in the game that get abused and people think it makes the game more interesting when it just makes it more spastic.
>>568937243Vin is good on an EU team, not great but good.
Tfw returning after nearly two years away. When I left I was a top player and now after returning I'm losing arcanist tier games.
>>568936341what did they do to Dynamo to have him fall off so hard?I know they originally didn't pick him much because Sinclair. Is it still just that?
>>568937480>All I am asking is for them to consolidate the needlessly esoteric movement mechanics into more intuitive ones.the only one that isn't at least loosely based on irl physics is that wall jumping off what the game considers two walls gives you more wall jump boost but that's at least very easy to explain and makes a kind of grugbrain 2x wall 2x fast kind of senseim not gonna reply anymore cuz you keep vaugeposting about this lol
silver players should be sent into Sierra Leone slave mines
>russian internet
>>568937040>fuck aiming at people is such a chore, like moving my mouse is such a pain ughhhh. like i spin this ball with my thumb and it makes me look around? so unintuitive>fuck farming is such a chore, like whyyy do i even have to get souls it should just be about kills like it's so unintuitive that these "waves" are worth more than kills likeeee>fuck itemizing is such a choooooreeee like who cares about buying items like why not just give me traits to pick from omfg.. it's so unintuitive that buying only damage items doesn't work like wdymmmmmyou get how just calling something 'unintuitive' doesn't really mean shit? >>568937614i do not believe you at all and you will never prove it so why bother making this claim?
>>568937902kek
>>568937902BROOOOL over the Urn
>>568936341>mina is soooo op you guys so op she got picked a total of zero times in night shift she's soooo broken!
>production doesn't know how to use stopsoundNIGGER
>>568938246They're just the raked, pay them no mind.
>>568938098I genuinely have no idea how the urn works anymore. I get lost in the underground. I feel like an alien, I swear we're missing a lane and I thought the game used to be 5v5 but i don't know if i'm going insane.
>>568938024Sure, he's my statlocker :)You're not really worth discussing this with since you are obviously just some butthurt faggot who can't stand criticism of the game.>>568937982Corner boosts and edge boosts are stupid and shouldn't be in the game. IAD shouldn't be in the game either.
>>568937902Sounds like you aren't picking the meta characters, everyone else sucks ass.>>568937979He's good but his ult is one and done on the urn dropoff and it's easy to cancel with the amount of shit that gets spammed on the urn dropoff.
>>568938434It was 6v6 as long as I've been playing (summer 2024) but yeah I felt the same when I came back after a year right after Vic release. Urn is just>Light melee to pickup>Heavy melee to cap itThat's it enjoy the BROOOOOL and AoE spam.
>Havent played in a while aside from the odd match every now and then>get the itch, decide to start playing again>Washed up chud in oracle running it downHoly SHIT im so fucking ass now.Im still going to play hard carries though :^)You WILL lose and it WILL be my fault
>spend $5 to allow steam to let me invite myself to deadlock on new account>want to be in the bottom rank for fun>leave games, do horrible, horrible builds, really dont try>Archon 6HOW FUCKING BAD DO I HAVE TO PLAY. I WANT TO SEE THE LOWEST. HOW FUCKING BAD ARE SOME PEOPLE. I FELT LIKE A FUCKING TROLL AND SUBHUMAN AND STILL GOT ARCHON 6.
! ! !
I really wish they would just buff towers. Just enough to make the retards actually have to THINK before diving like "Will I actually die for this?" Instead of being fucking free to do whatever they want.But no, the poor Eternustards would cry that they can't dive for free kills anymore. God forbid players have to think about risks.
>Nu Riposte dash just goes through the enemy>againDid yoshi test this shit on bots this ability does not work
So is Arzo the new top m1gger? He's pretty good.>>568938915I am a certified Apollo hater and I completely disagree with the recent nerfs.
>>568937480>>568937389>ok but what would you rather do to go fast?
>>568937414Without ult she has the worst DPS and util compared to other gun farmbots.
>>568933653Midboss exists. Walkers exist. Patron fights exist. They are not strong just because of the urn. You fell for the psyop
>>568938680This is actually the worst state the game has ever been in.
>>568939163Strange it seems like she does fucktons due to her passive. Does it fall off or something? with 10k souls into m1 she was doing more damage than Ven.
>>568938915I feel really bad for Apollo, honestly I don't think he even deserved to be nerfed. He was fine the way he was, would fall off really fast with spirit resi/spellbreak. Why did even nerf him?
>>568938897blud is playing pick wraith when they need a pos1 m1gger
>>568938316I remember when I was competitive in cs 1.5/1.6 I had it bound to m3, and jump was on mwheelup/down to make bunny hopping easier.I would hit it after every nade, or on some maps there were sound triggers when you walked past a certain point.
>>568938907No bro you don't get it, it's actually completely fine for someone to be able to dash into a tower, parry it, kill someone, and then just casually walk away.>>568939148Remove the need for edge/corner boosts, just make wall jumps better if you're sufficiently high in the air, mantling can stay since it isn't retarded to perform, remove IADs, remove all the bugs.
>>568939358He's anoying and easy so low mmr.
>>568937991The hero is just really bad and should be buffed
>That walker pushI've shit like this in my pub games, people just don't respect the lash ult and int themselves into walker stomp.
>>568938907shut up retard. towers work fine. nobody wants your dogshit lol towers that 2 shots anybody who tanks the tower.
>>568939447>Remove the need for edge/corner boostsBro you're Phantom, you don't need this shit to win games. Why are you so hyperfixated on that? You know you don't need to kill the dude just the majority of his team and delete structures right?
Revert this urn change please this is AWFUL the hero balance is now all over the place because everyone who can aoe slop urn? bad everyone who can? good
>>568938481damn dude that's crazy, it's the exact same pp as this post from a week agolet me guess, why would you bother posting a pic of your rank in-game, why would i waste my time on blah blah blah etc. etc.>Corner boosts and edge boosts are stupid and shouldn't be in the game. IAD shouldn't be in the game either.it's just a loop. assert, make some shit up, re-assert, then disengage. you strike me as the kind of person who'd go "because it's against the law" when you're asked why something is bad
>>568939742Yes, at least release a new Urn iteration after this Tourney please Yosh I beg you.
>>568939447there is no need for edge/corner boosts.what do you mean make wall jumps better if you're higher, why would you want the same mechanic to function differently based on esoteric metrics?what's wrong with air dashing why does it need to be removed?what bugs?
>>568939858>>568938481OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHA
>veil walker and late game monster rounds vindictawhat?
>abrahams is playing like shit>losing every fight>but their team has the epic objective contest slop heroes so they can win mid and urn every time and come out on top anywaysepic game deadtards
>>568939965>Lategame monster roundsThe only reason to sell them is if you need a slot.
I'm tricksy!>>https://files.catbox.moe/xosodt.mp3
>>568939742The idea isn't terrible but it needs radical changes to not make it AOEslop.Make it a proper king of the hill thing when you need to kill/push out everyone in a 20m radius to secure the urn, not this melee slop where you just spam alch fire or other AOE slop on it to make urn uncontestable.
>>568940059no, I think she just bought them not that she's keeping them from early on
>>568940136Trixie?
>>568940189800 souls is nothing this late into the game bro if you got an empty slot might as well fill it. Many of the 800s/1600s can make or break a fight even late.
>>568940218Cubes are for healing. Balls are for murder.
Its funny how this patch fucked everything>rebuttal went from being whatever to S tier>alch fire went from being whatever to S tier>viscous used to be whatever into being at least A because he can puddle punch the urn non stop>paradox went from being whatever to being A tier because she can echo shard the areaeven if they revert the patch the damage to the ranks is basically irreversible and now their 'data' is all messed up
>>568940169>The idea isn't terrible but it needs radical changes to not make it AOEslop.Make it a proper king of the hill thing when you need to kill/push out everyone in a 20m radius to secure the urn, not this melee slop where you just spam alch fire or other AOE slop on it to make urn uncontestable.This would unironicly make it so much better please make a forum post.
>>568939490You're just bad lmao
How are you actually supposed to contest that urn? its literally impossible to lmao why did they even push this urn update
>>568939351Fixation is one of the weakest onhits in terms of raw numbers + every other broken on hit getting to do spirit damage.
>>568940316it fucks with my head because I'm used to flooding my inventory with cheap stat items, like iron branch bracer/wraith band/null talisman, but those don't exist in the same sense in deadlock. there are 800 soul items which serve the same purpose, bracer = extra health, wraith band = rapid rounds, null talisman = extra spirit, but then you also can't stack multiple items in deadlock...it just makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong because I want to flood my inventory with 800 soul items but if I can't/don't upgrade them it feels like a waste.
What the fuck is this
>>568940580because the old urn was super contestable, right?
>>568940547>I'm bad>Despite you implying Apollo pre-gutting is hardHuh? He's easy as fuck, maybe high skill ceiling but anyone could play him, winlane, and at least be anoying enough to get CD's late.
>>568938907>>568939447Go back, loltranny.
>>568940787yeah? you could at least slap it out of their hand and dunk it then get killed so yes it unironically was
>leviathan just doesn't even bother with the urn>manage to keep souls even basically the entire timeuseless objective
>>568940350>rebuttalAs a billy main I kept telling people it was broken bullshitIts has like the stats of a 3200 item, but its 800I would understand if Melee items were good and you wanted a good effective counteritem to be viable but as of now, melee items aren't good enough to justify how OP it is.
>>568940601Yes but I just don't see how it's so fucking bad she can't be a viable m1 carry. I geuss I need to climb up to eternus lobbies myself on Haze and try building her m1 carry since it just doesn't compute for me what is stopping carry Haze up there from just speccing the games.
>>568940896and you can't just slap it now?
>>568940917abrahams has been playing like total shit but they get bailed out by the uncontested urn and favoured mid fights every time
>>568940350Rebuttal was always overpowered
Fuck it's Over
>>568941079uh do you actually play this game or what? this is bait so im gonna tell you to go away
suspicious that the "abrahamics" are the best team
>>568941176>don't make me think about what I'm saying then I'll realize it's stupid
>>568940941Parries are ridiculously overpowered compared to melee anyway, rebuttal existing is insane.Even without parries melee would be the weakest damage type.
Wow the Aoe slop team won :O no way really?!
>>568941309>Even without parries melee would be the weakest damage type.AIEEEE BUT THE SISSY ETERNUS PLAYERS DON'T WANNA DOUBLE JUMPPLEASE YOSHI NERF MELEE
how in the FUCK did they manage to fumble down to a 40k deficit holy shit
>>568940350Scourge is also S tier now. It's spirit resist for circleslop while also giving you circleslop of your own.
>>568941079>>568941306No you can't you need a successful heavy melee without being parried and for an extended period of time to cap the Urn. You can't last second slap them take the urn and dunk it for your team.
Suspicious that every good team has russians on it.
>>568941504so you're saying there was no contesting before? you just had to sneak in uncontested?
>enter game>John Deadlock in the lobbyOh wow what a fun and imaginative name, do you think he came up with it on his own?
>>568941450Look at the draft they couldn't get a single urn the game was literally decided from second one the entire game revolves around the urn and Abrahams had so much good AoE to slap on the urn
>>568941618they didn't need the urn, they were even on souls but then they over extended ONE TIME and the entire operation fell apart
>>568941325you're so right. everybody should Sniper and Lycan. Invoker and Leshrac are too much aoe slop.
the vindicta didn't even buy lightning scroll
>>568940350>>568941469I'm going to be mad if we see any nerfs or changes to anything prior to a new urn iteration.
would you rather a hu tao or yuzuha as our prankster character?
>I don't like electricity because power is just abusing nature's bugs to generate energy.
group queues really do make this game insufferable
Abrahams W.
>>568941885hu tao is literally me!
>>568941540congrats on watching your first tournament in any game ever
the russians? they're not all bad
>>568927557Sinclaire's kit synergises with Holliday's ult better than her's does.
the russian propaganda bots need an update
>me looking at the scoreboard>minute 22>venator is 45k>meanwhile the silver on my team
>>568941978damn victor went full utility, thats cool
>>568942492Venator does feel like he counters Silver>Grenades negate the heal>If she gets close he just shotgun blasts>If Silver at any point gets trapped it's overMeanwhile if he gets bola'd it's not like the lowest mobility hero in the game cares.
>>568941978glad to know the pros are just as bad at vinny as I am
>>568932940The Infernus seethe continues...
>>568942750nigga you don't understand, the average lifetime for silver was 40 seconds in that matchshe just held W to feed him ALL GAME
>>568942750DIE MONSTER!
>>568941540If tournaments ever go LAN-only it will expose all the frauds.
>>568942919I WANT THEM TO BURN!
>>568932940seethe
>>568942886>money bags>not copious amounts of yahts
>pick rem, graves, seven>almost five minutes already and still can't get a matchbroooo come on already
>>568943603don't go into the practice area, you're lower prio there
>>568939653>>568940797>anyone who thinks differently than us is a LoL fagnever played, but please, offer up an alternative that brings more fun, balance and actually have to make players THINK
GT being exposed for the broken character he is.
>>568938907>you don't understand!>i simply HAVE TO stay in lane with 150 hp!
>Graves is just a pub stomp character
>>568940787>>568940896Urn is, in fact, very uncontestable for a snowballing team, both new and old
>>568943903>you don't understand!>I simple HAVE TO chase someone all the way to their walker for a kill and never be punished for it
is this the first game without victor
>warden>celesteleviathan wins
Ab loses
Abrahams sweep.
>>568943756you're asking for lol towers, and you know you are.>parrying a tower isn't thinking>avoiding tanking a tower for extended duration isn't thinkingfuck off retard.
you know they love this in philly...
>>568939724I know I don't need it to win games, which is why I usually do not bother with it. The game is moving away from even needing it, since it is clear that this is just turning into Marvel Rivals 2: More Trannies edition.>>568939914IAD is the issue, not air dashing.
>>568944554why is it an issue?you keep making claims with no explanation.
>>568939858Yeah, that's probably me. What's the issue, never encountered someone with a different opinion?
>>568944313Esports fags really need to stop picking Shiv so we can go one patch without him being nerfed.
>>568932940individual placements could move up or down 1 but nobody in dishonest or below deserves to move up so good list
>>568944478Parrying towers isn't difficult and doesn't require any thought besides 'press F'.Towers either should do more damage or have more HP.>>568944686>A bug that requires you to rebind your keys in a specific way is okay becuase uhh my transexual friend said so
>>568944853>towers should be uninteractable>that requires much more thoughtno wonder you're the same retard who wants 0 input movement tech also.
>>568933338I can't believe how quickly we went back into a hard victor meta after how broken he was with a purge on his 2
>>568944993Towers and objectives as a whole in this game are way too pathetic and die way too fast.
>get a really shitty seven on the team>enemy builds no anvils to counter him because he's fucking trash>he doesn't go an ult build to have some sort of impact????
leviathan bros....
>>568944478Yeah sure, because you SAID that I want lol towers, despite never seeing them myself, that means it must be trueIt's not like parrying a player, it's the most predictable thing in the world. I'd say, have it so player must Heavy Melee the tower to stun it. Parry is uncontestableYou don't even HAVE to avoid it, towers are straight up allergic to shooting you. They don't even do damage if they did shoot at players. Even Dota towers will deal damage, and they're fucking relentless when they do target you. You will walk out of that situation with full HP for no good reason, unless there's a character that can CC you, in which case, you'll walk out with 50%What is wrong with the game have RISKS?
stop picking GT... at least job on stream if you're going to use my comfort pick...
its nearly fucking june and there are still new players being put in oracle lobbies
opening rounds or slowing bullets on silver
>>568945525slowing
>>568945521i always tell them they're complete shit and selfish niggers for wasting the time of 11 other people so hopefully they quit the game
>>568945353you don't play dota.>a+clicks a friendly minion>stops tanking the towerI will tower dive you successfully in that game too.
>>568945353Movement faggots want everything in the entire game to be countered by doing spastic air dashing bullshit. Towers should lock onto a player and remain locked onto them if they stay in range, and should not let up until you are well beyond the max range of the tower, and they should lock back onto a player if they get in range of them again.
>>568945525opening rounds helps put you into wolf mode, slowing helps with getting them damaged by wolf modeI would probably pick opening rounds
>pause makes you go different dirrection into your death on unpausepauses are cheating
>lower hp by 80%>wall jumping and air dashing now disjoints all spells AND gives you bullet immunityfixed you're game
>>568945525Both
I tried to get my friend to play this game and he said match is decided by roster so there's no point.
>>568945905>dashing away from enemy>theres a pause>unpause causes all your air momentum to disappear completely and you diesick game design
>>568945127>enemy team goes no anvils cause seven doesn't go ult buildchicken and egg
>>568946060people will look you dead in the face and say source engine movement slop is good because they plays CSsurf as a teenager for 500 hours
>>568945656Never said that you "couldn't" dive there either, just that there are actual risks to doing so in that game.Played enough during the crossover to get DK Rathalos Armor, Techies Palico, and AM alt and swords. Get a blast when I play Timbersaw and watch the enemy melt away as my HP bar stays at nearly full. Tried the new update too.
>>568946385I mean you can see it in this very thread, one or two anons are saying that the movement mechanics will kill this game and giving reasons why, while the others are just blindly defending it.
>THE URN IS SUPER BUSTED GUYS URN AOE SLOP BROOL META>Leviathan doesn't get any urns in 2 matches and stays even in souls?
>>568946637the thing is i dont mind movement, i just hate the counter intuitive shit source momentum does like "bro not holding forward makes you go forward FASTER and gives you MORE control of gravity". The only reason to defend it would be because "i grew up playing it therefore its good"
>>568946869>Highly coordinated pro team can decide to rush down walkers instead of Urn fightsYeah, at least now with the 12 minute urn and crossmap delivery. Next urn they will have to contest it though or lose hard on eco
>>568946990name another good shooter that doesn't use quake [unreal] as the engine.
>>568947152doom 64
>>568947351>uses quake [unreal]>moves faster by moving diagonally instead of straight forward
>>568946990Exactly my point, the movement in source games isn't good, it's unintuitive and full of stupid bugs and glitches that put it on par with Smash Melee in terms of bad game design.
>>568944709>he doesn't know
>>568946385>>568946637>>568947462>>568947152you also provide no reason why it's bad, you just say it's bad because you don't want to use any inputs to move.
gaped with rebuttal today>>568946385i have not played any source movement gamemodes and i like the quake roots the games have. in fact i liked them before i had even played source games myself. i just like quirks like that. of course losing momentum during a pause is an absolutely abhorrent oversight>>568946637i have not seen any "reasons" being posted, only stuff like "troonment" and seethe about some opponent moving better than the poster>>568946990>"i grew up playing it therefore its good"i didnt and i still think its intuitive. have you considered that maybe you grew up with nonquake movement and thats why youre biased against it? in the end movement inputs in a video game are completely arbitrary>>568947462>full of stupid bugs and glitchesthat are fun>Smash Melee in terms of bad game design.still loved to this day because of said emergent features
>>568946990literally just learn the game you retarded sperg
>>568947445>doom engine = quake engine
>>568947462never use the term game design again
walmart
Night shift games are literally no different than average pub games lmao just a complete stomp
>>568947626nice. if that's me I pause the game after that to let them bask in my glory.>>568947690why are you posting awards for yourself?
gg
its over...
>>568947626Smash Melee is only loved by trannies and sweaty faggots, dude.
>>568947876Because just like pub games it boils down to who gets the most bullshit picks on their team
Flopping tranny deadcock.
Leviathan tried doing walker snipes instead of contesting urns but you can only do that to a point. The brool calls eventually. Warden Silver aren't the right heroes for this anyway.
>>568947626>reasonsuhhhhhh it's "unintuitive" and you have to learn them and uhhhhhhhh it's uh... it doesn't "feel good"... and uhh did i mention they're freaking bugs?!
>finally get rem>laning with yamato>against seven and minayoshi this match up doesn't work yoshi stop pairing me with a character that doesn't come online until twenty minutes yoshi!!! still won anyway beating the enemy in urn brools
are they ever gonna fucking balance out tankswhy is this the only game where tanks are mobile as fuck and also deal insane amounts of damage while having cc
>>568947634learning the game doesnt make the movement system feel any less shit to play>>568947883>AI overviewLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOthey are fundamentally different engines, despite quake using a similar base
>>568947883>AI overview
imagine if they drafted vic instead of warden, gg
russia won :)
>>568948206>>568948210>anti-AI luddites are also too retarded to understand movementwhy am I not surprised. cry about how the towers are too interactable again while you're at it.
>>568948380>AI overview
>>568948245Feels like a faildraft yea
What is wrong with the game was just shown right there objectives dont matter brools and urn matters only lmao this game is SO SHIT compared to 2024 and in 2024 it was unbalanced nonsense like near insta kill kinetic carbine but at least the game had direction
>exposing GT>now they're exposing ScourgeI want this tournament to end already.
>>568948380
Abrahams W. sweep.
>>568948565>>exposing GTThe microsecond they deployed the patch I had a sea of nonstop Grey Talons exposed my ass.The buffs were absolutely insane and anyone non retarded would instantly know GT was gonna be a problem.
>>568948541I like this direction better. Split pushing is for bitches. If you're gonna sneak in walkers you better be prepared to walk the talk on urn fights with your gold lead.Or get picks before urn fights if your comp is so mobile. Can't do that? Then lose.
>>568948619wow ranks matter so much this doesnt look like a seeker to emissary game at all
>>568948617AI is always right though saar its the most important achievement in human history E = MC2 + AI is the equation of the future
>>568948541Yeah it's gone from deadlock to urnlock
>>568946385Seething.
>>568948617if we threw the baby out with the bathwater then all of your posts would be deleted.again failing to make an argument or address the topic.good luck!
>>568948740are you basing that on the score lineare you that much of a mental retard
>play seven>throw tesla ball at urn to win instantly>ult at teamfights to win instantly>sleep easy at night knowing I'll get away with it while Victor and Graves get disemboweled by nerfs
>>568948541>objectives don't matter>urn matters
>>568948785you didnt make a single argument so there is nothing to addressHope this helps!
>>568948810Nope no difference between this match and shitlow matches sorry your Phantom rank means fuck all and you're seething because you know its true
>vindicta has blue skinDoes this mean she's a futa?
>>568948619Celeste was an actual detriment for her team, soaked up a ton of farm to do absolutely nothing
>>568948619Silver couldn't carry it...
How come everytime someone in this thread mentions source movement, people act like you just insulted their mom?
>>568948619>draft broolslop>winunga bunga ahh game they're going to have to nerf broolers and hp more if they want a nuanced game
>>568948921you should hop on a team and collect your free prize money dude what are you doing
>>568948890Deadlock needs sticker comms.
>>568949117You're so stupid in soccer do you see Arsenal and Manchester go 0 and 9 consistently? In Overwatch teams don't stomp the other team you're fucking dumb if you think there's any difference between pub games and DL games rank doesnt matter in this game because its all boosted nonsense
>>568949069idk, why did that one retard list titanfall 2 as a non-source-engine example of a game with good movement
>>568948868graves is already slowly falling off, seven is literally the best performing hero in eternus right now and shit like mcginnis, pocket and silver are beyond absurdI wouldn't be so confident seven bro
What's the current S+++er win rate in NS?
>>568948619why do teams just ignore how insane wraith is recently?
>>568949309lmaoooooo>>568949069where?
>>568949297uh huh, so when are you signing up? i mean, that'd literally be free cash, no?
i need melee creeps to lose it'd be the funniest shit ever to see usa bomb out
>>568949475>no argumentthanks for admitting you're wrong :) good night anon
What is this nigger talking about genuinely, Britbong lost his sanity loicense or something
>>568949442she has 4 characters to stand in front of her. any gun carry would perform well there.
>being expected to fill half my inventory with counter items>enemy team gets to do whatever they want and go full damage
>>568949529they're definitely the worst and most inconsistent of the top 4 teams so you'll get your wish lol
>>568949619lol ok but when's your tryout?
>>568948380using AI for anything besides porn chat bots and pictures of anime girls is fucking stupid
>>568949774they've consistently beaten these european teams when they are on high ping, so they might be pretty good mechanically.
Americans are so fucking unfunny
I just hope Melee Creeps eat shit after the unsportsmanship, exploiting is scummy enough but being a smug retard afterwards is a bit too scummy.
silver valued over pocket.silver downplayers in shambles.also will eido be able to perform if they give him his 1trick?
>>568902017ball seven is probably one of the worst builds in the gameits basically bomb giest with lower survivability, ability uptime, and lower ball radius
>3 abysmal games in a row
>>568950653nta you're replying to but which seven build do i go for? i have no clue how he's meant to be built for
>>568950631>will eido be able to performlolno
>>568947152quake and unreal aren't the same engine thoughbeit
>>568950631>will eido be able to perform
Hope Grey Talon gets HARD DUMPSTERED after this
>>568950217t. floorfaggot
LKW W.
Melee probs have the better comp, should've picked Graves instead of Warden
No no no! Why are these people playing GT... I was having so much fun and wins abusing that old piece of shit. He was literally uncontested for me too now everyone is going to be playing him. FUCK!
>>568951075>billy>shiv>pocket>wraithlowkey fucked
>>568951075>LKW Picked SilverYeah, NA is going to finals
Russians won
MLC won the draft hard now can they prevent themselves from throwing
>>568948619what kind of username is empty dreams
Didn’t these guys fight in DSI?
If melee plays proactively with Ivy ganks they win if it's just afk farming and urn brooling Lowkey wins
>>568951424zxc 1000 - 7 Tokyo Ghoul pma 1/2/fun mode:Yatoro PRIME- (muted swap commends)
it's kino time w mlc
>>568951424depressed russian, please understand
TIME FOR A MIDDLE OF THE TOURNAMENT PATCHhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/668366713382766678
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/668366713382766678
Its crazy how Wraith is still allowed to nuke you and have a good ult
uh-oh time for a "pro" melty!
Lystic is throwing
>>568951897>>568951868Wow these are such nothing changes besides gutting McGinnis.
>>568951868SILVER NERFED HAHAHAHAHAHA
>15% fucking percent damage nerf on ghouls damage>and a deathhead nerf to boot when they're still not that goodand she's back to F tier
Why not she?
>yoshi pushed an update on the middle of the tournamentwhy does he do it?
BUFF GRABES WTF
>graves is allowed to be good for a week before she gets dumpstered>seven haze dynamo wraith are allowed to be good for literal years and only get slap on the wrist nerfssomeone please explain this to me
>>568951897why does 60%er need buffs? yeah that one anon might be right saying yoshi is in love with a tranny
>>568951868- Yamato: Power Slash spirit scaling reduced from 2.1 to 1.85I have zero Yamato games. In fact my picks usually farm Yamatos. I don't think she deserved this at all.
I feel like the current urn broool meta is partially caused by map size. The TTK to travel time ratio is off. There's basically zero risk in running straight for urn from side, since even if somebody tries to gank you on the way you can just take 10s detour and still show up on time, or your team will just rotate halfway across the map and save you without even conceding enough space for the other team to get the urn in.Just take the map (excluding the lanes themselves) and stretch it out by like 15%
>>568951868>>568902880
>no buffs T_T
>>568951868silver rework within the next 6 months
>>568952319Loudest voice wins. Now wait for them to latch on to whatever the newest strong hero is and complain every day about it.
>>568951868>no seven nerfs
>>568951868So? Urn is still AoE slop who cares about literally any of this?
shiv>negative winrate in mm>negative winrate in dlns weeklies>negative winrate in tournies like the one happening right nowwhy are people drafting him? are they stupid?
>>568952319Reminder Shiv has been an S tier genuinely broken piece of shit hero SINCE MINUTE 0.>>568952383Yamato now has lower spirit scaling on power slash compared to pre buff.
>>568951868Apollobros?
>>568952049it's a pretty sizable nerf to graves as well
>>568952369>60%er need buffs?>>568933338
>>568952607Deadlock pro scene, much like any other pro scene, is brimming with fraud.
>>568952607"pros" are still humans with human biases and mistakes. its like when you watch AI chess engines the chess engines literally come up with moves humans can't even comprehend. i bet if AI played deadlock it would come up with some crazy shit and crazy builds
>nerf characters based on the stupid urn changeyep this is the point of no return
>vegas complains about silver every 10 seconds>went 0/10 on her 3 games in a row in ascendant lobbies on his smurf???
>>568952607instead of blindly accepting stats they use their brain.
>>568952447they have time to buff apollo but not holliday lmao
>>568952795Yeah I mean I hate graves but the fact that they are balancing around an objective everyone hates is not a good sign. Then again, we all kind of knew Deadlock was going downhill with the last set of heroes.
>>568952607I have genuinely not seen shiv lose a single fucking game in DNS recently
>>568951868HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASEVENBROS SWEEP
>>568952795graves would not have been ok even with old urn
>>568952930you are about to see it right now
EIDO SPLITPUSHING INSTEAD OF CONTESTING URN WITH ULT WHAT ARE YOU DOOOOOOOING
>>568952809vegas is a shitter retard who couldn't hack it in competitive
>>568952607he's cool and fun to play
>>568951868Yoshi, buff Sinclair already, he doesn't need them but it'd be really funny
If eido is such a talented player, why do they have him on 0 econ utility/ult bot heros?
>no wraith nerfokay yoshi yep free escape good lane clear good objective clear good damage good cc not a single nerf not one
>>568953261You don't understand, at least one nigger must always be OP in deadlock.
>Victor: Shocking Reanimation T3 reduced from -130s Cooldown to -120shehe
>>568953504An absolute nothing nerf for an OP hero, standard Icefrog balancing.
there's no fucking way they delete graves from the game when she's already falling off but do a dogshit +10 second cooldown nerf on victor t3 ult despite victor being a problem for several patches nowI hate these devs man
0 HEROES HIT AFFLICTION IN PIT0 HEROES HIT AFFLICTION IN PIT0 HEROES HIT AFFLICTION IN PIT
>>568953504>victor ult takes 10 more seconds>the urn spawn takes 1 more minute to spawn thoughheheheeheh
GEEEEEEEEEGGGGGg
Eido unironically missing affliction on a midboss fight, literally nobody hit
>>568952809He's like, not really trying or anything, so L for you.
>picks the most broken hero in the game>siphons all the farm in the map>misses affliction
>- Pocket: Flying Cloak T3 reduced from -14s Cooldown to -13s>- Pocket: Affliction T3 reduced from +18 DPS to +14so we're just not going to address the actual problem with the character. got it yoshi, you fucking nigger
>>568952607Comp is not ranked.Ranked has 45% WR Sinclairs trying out shaolin monk builds and promptly feeding. Comp has obikym who will land 3 good Afflictions before Pocket lands a decent one.
luckily this isn't that big of a nerf to the skulls
>>568954070>so we're just not going to address the actual problem with the character.Welcome to Deadlock balancing, abrams/shiv/seven/lash/etc have been a problem almost every patch for the exact same fucking reason for over 2 years.
>>568954104>>568954104>>568954104>>568954104
>Yamato powerslash nerfedwhat exactly is Yamato supposed to build around if her powerslash isn't a huge nuke? she has zero other good damage sources
>>568928253>>as a bonus the urn screams in pain and agony when you burn itgood for this alone
>>568954215why you mouth breathers keep making threads with bordeline nsfw images
I don't really like graves so even more nerfs are fine fuck her, and I am forced to admit that I'm a fraud stealing free wins with miku ult so the range nerf is understandable even if I hate it, but maybe the problem with certain heroes being absurdly good for urn all of a sudden is because the new urn is ass, not because of specific abilities
>>568954220>only 0.01 lower in scaling than it was before the last big patch>kept 3m of hook range and the ability speed increase
>>568954385troon paraphernelia.
ABSOLUTE STATE OF LKW
>>568954385Because the game has attracted the worst people from the internet and they've found their way here and soon these threads will be nothing but "coom, zaaamn I'm so horny xd!"
>>568954484you were sayin?
>>568954215I shan't be posting here.
>>568954215Lol 404'd silver players keep losing
new bread deleted because coomer trannies cant stop posting furry porn
>>568954385it's one control freak gooner trying to force porn OPs because he wants the thread to become a porn dump like every other general here
>>568954385Silver users are mentally ill addicts
yeah holy fuck why does gt have infinite movement?
>>568954070>>568954189Yeah this game's balance has already hit Dota 2 tier balance in terms of how blatant the dev favoritism is.
>>568954973i'm not sure if they taught you this in your sharty orientation but bush isn't a furry thing
cosmetical is so shit lmao
>>568955195
HUGE 4 MAN AFFLICTION WOOOOAAAAHOh... they got 2 divine barriers? Oh... they have 60% debuff reduction...
>>568954608
>>568955208Not this one either.
>>568955170ywnbaw
>>568955113yeah I don't like the flight reworks very much. it doesn't need 0 cooldown without buying any cooldown/duration when it provides that much mobility. it also makes vindicta's flight look like a pathetic joke.or maybe they just need to reduce his bullet count on flight now.
>>568952607There's three other frontliners and two of them deal less damage than him.
>>568952319>only reason she's THIS busted is clearly because of the stupid fucking retarded urn that NO ONE likes>still kneejerk nerf hertruly, a sight to behold. what new marvels shall the ICEFROG(tm) TEAM bring us next?
here's your eternus players, sir.
>>568959621DYING GAME DYING GAME VALVE MAKE THE GAME ACTUALLY GOOD WHY ARE YOU DELAYING MAJOR UPDATES FOR MONTHS. remodels ain't that complicated...
>>568941601that guys a retard btw
>>568951868>Meanwhile dynamo untouched despite being the biggest faggot in the game
>>568959929yoshi admitted the game has an account boosting problem btw
