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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9362 - Go cry about it Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic Live in Concert
https://sonicliveinconcert.com/

==Comic Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
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>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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The FIRE family~
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>>568930726
Where's the 'nic?
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>>568930726
That's not Sonic
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Tails!
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>>568930905
You hate Blaze.
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>>568930905
You are now reminded that Cream did not get a card.
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This is the thread
Mods Don't Delete This One.
STAAAAAAHP
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Would Sonic's morality and decisiveness make him like Jefferson Davis or Abraham Lincoln more
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>>568930929
He's beautiful
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I have video essay fatigue
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I have fatigue fatigue
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>>568930505
This was made by a rabid Sonadow fujo and Sonadow fujos have no business talking about what's good for the franchise
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>>568931083
Yesterday I drew a quick Tails on the whiteboard for the first time in a while. I want to draw more often but idk if I can
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fatigue fatigue fatigue fatigue
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Does Sonic have the highest power level or highest competence level in the series? Why does he win so much?
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>>568931224
this, I am so tired of "x fatigue" shit
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Douge
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Anything anyone tells you about any character in this franchise is simply incorrect outside of a handful of promotional materials.
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If 7, Silver will appear in the next game trailer
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>>568931301
I think Sonic's adaptability is higher than a saiyan's from DBZ. This is because Sonic can learn everything quick from hover boarding to swordsmanship to martial arts during the events of Sonic Battle.
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Material fatigue
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>>568931262
That's great! You should definitely draw more if possible
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>>568930980
There's barely anything to like about her that's not as big as you think it is
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>>568931345
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>>568931483
No
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>>568931483
He's appearing in the next movie trailer, actually
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i have a fat igue.
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>>568931503
HOLY SHIT
THE /STHG/ MANSION COLLAPSED
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>>568931532
Because Sonic Team dumped her on Silver which you like because you don't like Blaze
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>>568931515
:)
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Holding Teirusu
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You will be never a real critic
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>>568931532
This is OOC blaze likes water
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I think I've found something very close to playing with Sonic action figures, but for adults
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Favorite fanfic got an update. Time to leave this stinky hole for 1 hour
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I like that Tails is self-critical
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>>568931870
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>>568931567
>...a specific type of limestone sinkhole or vertical cave frequently found in the Quercy region of southern France
Good for (You).
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>>568931378
>Shiruba's gaarufriendo
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Sonic Team needs to make a game with tanabata slop to kill Silver, Blaze, and SSS already.
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Need some mass in here.
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>>568931491
Sonic doesnt do Martial Arts. He does improve breakdancing to fight.
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>>568924429
>Monarchies and shit
How do you know this? There’s Soleanna and somehow that’s been more important to the plot than Blaze’s empire. Speaking of, we only know Blaze is an imperial princess and they’ve done fuck all with that. Ironically enough, it’s gonna be in Sonic’s World where we’re actually seeing political shit from her in a future IDW story.
>Dinosaurs
No but it has plenty of mythical creatures like dragons or a phoenix, something that ought to be in Blaze’s world for thematic shit or whatever.
>Kot
We have Honey and Big, I’m good (kidding).
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>>568932060
Yeah makes his self improvement focus more substantial
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>>568931997
It's using a roleplaying game with an oracle. On /tg/ style games. Writing is also like playing with action figures if you go at it the right direction.
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>>568931532
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Can someone draw this with Tails and Sonic. This is really cute
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>>568931721
Fucking weak, dude.
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>>568925572
Given how they’re actually showing Marine using her powers nowadays in spin off shit, yes.

>>568925813
Shippers be shipping, it is what it is. Don’t pretend like people don’t over analyze anything Blaze does with either hedgehog anyway (one of which was confirmed to be platonic by the creator kek), Blaze having a demonic entity inside her is actually a cool thing. I wonder if they can use her prototype silhouette as a dark form or something born out of the iblis connection. A literal “Shadow” for her if you will.
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Tails & Marine!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggRrjjut4CA&pp=ygUSZnJlYWtpbmcgb3V0IGFkZW1h
This nu metal song sounds like Radical Highway.
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>>568932060
A lot of his fans don't. I think it's cute and in some ways admirable.
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>>568932531
What do you mean
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>>568932538
That would be so sick. Dark Blaze actually makes sense for her character too.
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Why so many Tails
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>>568932619
Indeed, that's why I said it. I actually like that scene in Frontiers. The only thing I don't like about it is Sonic's conclusion in the English version, but that's not what people usually focus on when it's brought up
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>>568932598
who is the chick on the right
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>>568931721
I thought we had a real mansion not a small british house...
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>>568932850
Because Tails is the best character and we love him
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Post your favorite fanart of your favorite sonic character/s.
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>>568932538
>>568932796
0% chance Iblis isn't going to be milked for more tanabata slop like it was the first time.

>>568932538
>shipping
Sonic Team are "shippers". Silver & Blaze are about "shipping". This discourse is so fucking tiresome.
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>>568933002
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>>568931760
That exactly the reason why i hate her, Silver proved he functions perfectly without her more than 4 times, and only becomes a mockery when he's around her.
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>>568933115
Shipping is something I've never been fond of in the Sonic fandom. Not really in many, but this one specifically pisses me off.
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>>568933087
Why is there so little porn of this sexbeast?
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>>568933054
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>Listen to me! I sound like Sonic's platonic bestie Amy Rose! Haha!
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Rate my bait please
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>>568933420
Haha!
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>>568933036
Trvth
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>>568932857
A core part of Tails is he is always seeing the version of himself that could be better.
Him learning maybe to give himself some slack is a good thing for him to learn.

What are your thoughts on Tails discourse in general Tailsanon?
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>>568933459
1/10
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>>568930726
Cyndaquil might be the greatest Pokémon but not Sonic
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>>568933459
it was supposed to be bait?
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SHINE AND DARK
SYMBIOSIS
NECESSARY DESCRIPANCY
THE LOVING WORLD IS DOWN THERE
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Ah yeah it's tailstime
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If you reply to this post with an image with text I will change it to say Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
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>>568933365
Because its not really a major part of the series. If characters have feelings for eachother its as dynamic flavoring rather then set up for romantic relationships innthe future the way shiptards treat it.

I really blame Archie for this.
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>>568933835
>tail time
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>>568933628
I don't know what to say exactly about in general because that's very broad. I'll say I'm tired of discussions about how he acted in Unleashed/Forces and I want to play as him in 3D again
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>>568933368
Furry franchise.
>>568933841
>>568932294
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Is this place more or less Twitter centric than in 2024?
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>>568933054
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>>568933915
How did you feel about his gameplay in Final Horizon?
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>>568932690
Where are they gonna eat, fuck 'n nap now?
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>>568933779
Yes?
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>>568933054
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>>568934021
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>>568934213
Then, a 1 probably?
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>>568933420
Bestiefag knows 2027 is coming and he's coping
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>>568933736
I’m gonna trace this
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>>568934130
I have two passports to Meet n Fuck Kingdom. You girls are gonna have to convince me which one I take with me.
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>>568933628
NTA but I've noticed this past year or so, Tails discourse has focused too much on him supposedly not acting "like a kid" anymore, and that Tails should go back to being "just a mechanic"

First of all Tails was never just a mechanic. His manual in the Japanese version of Sonic 2 explicitly says that he's an inventor. We see those inventions in Tails Adventure, and he even builds a space rocket in Sonic the Fighters. So this notion that classic Tails wasn't a genius is incorrect. I think people watched too much AoStH where Tails is just a kid and want the character to be like that when it was never the point

And second, people with this opinion tend to have this zero sum game mentality where they think that being a kid and being a genius are incompatible traits. No, Jimmy Neutron didn't invent the concept of the kid genius. Prodigies have existed in fiction for over a century, probably longer. He very much still is a young character that looks up to his hero and puts in the effort to be like him while still displaying some childish traits.

Sadly people just don't seem to put in the effort of properly analyzing Tails' character compared to other characters which leads to these misconceptions
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>>568934386
AI I take it, did you ask it to change the expressions too?
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>>568934429
I got three free (You)s, doe.
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Sonic discourse makes me irrationally angry. I'm at my happiest when I don't engage with Sonic fandom at all, and just do my own things with the hedgehogs.>>568934502
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Why is Sonurge so cute and better than Sonamy
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>>568934501
Her.
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>>568934646
You should pour liquid concrete inside the /sthg/ bathroom. As a revenge.
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>>568933890
Shadria, Shadouge, and Silvaze are major parts of the series actually. Those relationships make up the core of those characters.

Sonamy is the only relationship which is dynamic flavoring as you say.
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>>568934502
Tails was also never just about tech (until Unleashed anyways). He’s physically capable too and I think that’s been lost on both the fanbase and Sonic Team and it irks me
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>>568934569
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>>568934569
5/10 two-factor bait Fionanon, i am impressed.
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>>568934687
Duofag...
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>>568935043
You're an ugly rat!
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>>568934884
I agree that Tails is physically capable. I also don't think being a genius is a fundamentally bad thing. Both traits were a part of Tails from the start
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>>568934126
It seems interesting, but I haven't been able to enjoy it properly because of how low the object draw distance is. A lot of times I'm not able to tell where the challenge starts or ends. The Tornado also allows you to skip everything, and makes it even easier than the other characters to do so. I don't think it's necessarily much of an issue in itself, but combined with being unable to tell where to go, it meant that I was flying everywhere until I stumbled upon one of the objectives, but I didn't want to take them without completing the challenge, so instead I'd try to do it backwards so I could find the start and do it properly, but even like this I couldn't tell where to go sometimes. He is also the only character without the Homing Attack, and while I prefer for him not to have it, to me it feels like the game is fundamentally designed to have it even when playing as him. I'm glad that he is playable, but I enjoyed Amy and (post-update) Knuckles more, and I prefer his gameplay in other 3D games. I feel his Frontiers gameplay would work better in a game that's designed with it in mind at a technical level from the start, the draw distance was already the biggest issue with Frontiers but I find it mostly acceptable when not playing as Tails

>>568934502
Good post
Also the idea that he can't be both a kid and mature for his age at the same time is stupid
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>>568934502
>First of all Tails was never just a mechanic. His manual in the Japanese version of Sonic 2 explicitly says that he's an inventor. We see those inventions in Tails Adventure, and he even builds a space rocket in Sonic the Fighters. So this notion that classic Tails wasn't a genius is incorrect.
I agree with this. Ive seen that take as well and it always seemed like a forced one. Tails even makes a Jewel Radar in Sonic 3 so he was always more than just a mechanic.

And yeah I very much agree eith the whole kid genius thing. I don't even know how much of it is people genuinely not seeing him as a kid and more not wanting him to be one for some reason.

Him being a kid is part of the appeal of him being so smart and it colors and informs how he approaches his inventions. You very much get the sense of it being like advanced Legos and bionicles for him. This is actually another parallel him and Eggman have given Eggman is a manchild and makes his robots like gunpla and model kits.
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What if I showed a random person on the train with me now our thread, what would you think they're gonna say
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>>568935109
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>>568935083
Ah finally someone who notices my milestones, next time will be 6 (You)s minimum!
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>>568935183 (Me)
*Cyclone, not Tornado!
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>>568935276
>what the heck is "tanabata"?
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>>568935276
they're gonna raise up an eyebrow and threaten to call the british police because you're posting on the creepy lolicon politically charged website for weirdos
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>>568935183
>Also the idea that he can't be both a kid and mature for his age at the same time is stupid
I guess there is just only so many things you can do for people before him.being a kid feels informed rather than an actual trait of the character. His immaturity is probably the most prominent element of him that still signals "kid" to people.
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>>568935118
I agree, I just don’t like when they lean too hard one way or the other. Him being both is crucial to his identity
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>>568935573
Well he still looks young and has a young sounding voice
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JP Purists be like.
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Silvaze keeps finding fertile soil. Our empire rises!
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Sonic should be written by Seth McFarlane
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Smug and bratty fox shota grrrrrr.
Needs Bat correction!
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>>568935781
You hate Blaze.
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>>568935718
Tails' identity is whatever they wants it to be.
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>>568935573
If they fail to recognize him as a kid that's their problem, the character is fine

>>568935718
True

>>568935758
Exactly, that whole discussion is dumb
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>>568935276
ha ha, what a wacky idea! are you typically ignored in large groups?
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>>568935781
>immediately likes the donut steel girl knuckles with lots of style and zero substance
Checks out
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>>568935781
that's a lot of shit taste but they're based for their favorite being cream
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>>568935864
You niggas need to accept Blaze belongs with Silver. It's too late to separate them.
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I'm glad Sonurge is becoming more popular than Sonamy
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>>568936215
They can be together in the vault
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I used to think Tails being forced to always be a child and never at least get to Sonic' age was a weakness only he had by nowadays the forced status quo and utter stagnation of every character seems to just be a consequence of the fact that SEGA and Sonic Team have no idea what they're doing.
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Anyways Tails is cute
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>>568936032
>>568936334
Based.
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>>568936275
Agreed
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>>568936275
True dat!
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>>568936215
I already know you hate Blaze and only care about Silvaze you don't have to tell me again.
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>>568936360
The cutest!
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I knew some stages were different, but I didn't know this music existed

>>568936350
Tails being a child isn't a weakness, it's part of his character, story, and appeal

>>568936360
Facts
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Sonic the Hedgehog 1991 is the only good Sonic game ever made because Fails didn't exist back then to ruin the franchise
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Silvaze fags deflect to "it's too late" because they know Silvaze ruined Blaze and they have no excuse.
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>>568936812
Can play Sonic 2 and 3 with just Sonic.
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>>568936581
>Tails being a child isn't a weakness
It is in terms of character growth but there are more dire problems with Sonic stories and characters than them being trapped eternally in a summer vacation it seems. A lot of characters have straight up regressed.
I see the child part of his identity as a good thing since it at least emphasizes his cuteness and the surprising tenacity he has. I just wish we could see what he's like if they actually took his character further and let him and the rest of the cast grow. Literally.
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>>568937157
>trapped eternally in a summer vacation
This is not a problem, some series are designed like this and that's fine. You're asking for a different type of story that the Sonic series wasn't built around. It could work as an alternate interpretation, like a fanfic or something
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or is it?
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>>568937351
The passage of time and characters getting older was literally implied as far back as SA1 where they imply a significant timeskip happens between S3&K and SA1.
Hell, one of Shadow's main conflicts in 06 is that everyone around him will grow old, die and the new world would betray him supposedly.

The franchise used to acknowledge the passage of time. For over the past decade however it feels almost as if Sonic and the rest of the cast feel younger than they were before. I'm fine with kids in kids franchises never really changing but Sonic always used to change and still kind of does.
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TAILS¡
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>>568937351
>You're asking for a different type of story that the Sonic series wasn't built around.
Since the Adventures games it is Sonic the one who isn't built for time capsule stories. People want to see progression, that's why the Sonic movies keep growing
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>>568932796
Yes. She’s grown up alone and ostracized, even if Cream and Amy made her open up I think it makes sense she’d still have scars left over that can manifest in a dark form though I do like the idea of her creating something horrible too. Maybe through a combo of the Sol emeralds and Jewel Sceptre since it has fuck off powers. I wonder what would be the catalyst for that.

>>568933115
>Trying to engage with Blaze
>BUT WHAT ABOUT SILVER? TANABATA! WHATABOUTSIL-
Blaze is a lost cause with fans like these lmfao
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>>568937762
>characters getting older was literally implied as far back as SA1 where they imply a significant timeskip happens between S3&K and SA1.
Wrong, it was not a significant amount of time at all, it's not any more of a time skip than it is between any other game (aka it isn't)

>Shadow's main conflicts in 06 is that everyone around him will grow old, die and the new world would betray him supposedly.
That's due to time travel, not time progression that affects the series permanently. It's a self contained story

>The franchise used to acknowledge the passage of time.
Like all "eternal summer vacation" series

>>568937876
The stories in the Adventure games literally revolve around Sonic being a static character
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>>568934028
If you mean all of 4chan then yes.
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>>568934569
Have another
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>>568935876
Rude and get fucked
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>>568938167
Sonic Generarions.
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>>568937589
The older I get, the more it rings true. Compassionate and intelligent men, characters struggling to find their place in the world, transforming machines, etc, these things never changed for me
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>>568938491
The game where Sonic celebrates his birthday while staying the same age as he always was, with no significant amount of time passing and no characterization being permanently changed as a result of the passage of time
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>>568938167
>The stories in the Adventure games literally revolve around Sonic being a static character
Sonic never changing doesn't mean literally everyone around him changed.
Shadow and Rouge go through a lot between him being fake or not through 3 games.
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>>568938167
Due to the upgrades you get, the Adventure games are the only ones where Sonic does change throughout the story.
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It feels weird that Sonic is a 35 year old franchise but it feels like it's in the same place as it was 15 years ago
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>>568933309
that other image looks nothing like madonna lol
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>>568938675
If no significant thing happened then why is there a split timeline now? Shouldn't classic and modern be the same age?
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>>568938905
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>>568939045
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>>568938689
It doesn't matter. Those are their stories in those games. They don't need to have years pass and make the characters grow old for those stories to happen. At the end of the day it's still the same characters without significant permanent changes that are specifically caused by years passing. This is not that type of series and that's okay

>>568938836
We are talking about characterization in relation to time, not worn accessories

>>568938924
>there a split timeline now
Irrelevant (and even debatable given that they keep changing their minds)

>Shouldn't classic and modern be the same age?
Last we heard, they are. But it doesn't matter, they're making Classic and Modern two different brands with occasional crossovers, that doesn't mean they should change fundamental aspects of the series, nor that they've been doing it
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>>568937351
>You're asking for a different type of story that the Sonic series wasn't built around
>>568938675
>The game where Sonic celebrates his birthday while staying the same age as he always was
https://youtu.be/8Vkacpmyvlw?t=53
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>>568938362
Fonziechad...
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>>568939359
Sonic Team really can't even keep track of their own writing looool
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>>568937762
If you ask me, Sonic Unleashed the globetrotting adventure felt the closest the series ever had to an ending, with Sonic and the Black Knight (Maekawa's last game, which touched deeper on these themes) as the epilogue. I really wonder how much more climatic the Sonic Adventure 3 version of the game would've been.
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>>568939359
Yes? I know the game's cutscenes. Sonic games don't acknowledge years passing and characters aging in the way you want it to. Time is kept vague and the characters stay the age they are. Classic being retconned into a separate brand or timeline or whatever they want it to be this week doesn't change that this is the type of series where a character can celebrate his birthday without changing his age.
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>>568934565
Oops it was not supposed to do that.
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BURN! WORLD!

I SHALL REBUILD YOU BETTER!
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>>568939250
>At the end of the day it's still the same characters without significant permanent
Not at all. Sega made a deliberate effort to ignore the changes because they wanted a Mario franchise.
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>>568939656
But there is a game that literally acknowledges otherwise. You can keep trying to justify yourself but the franchise itself directly contradicts you.
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>>568939405
Ah yes, Jessica Rabbit's cousin.
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>>568939378
ayyy foxymama
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Infinite telling Eggman about Sonic foiling his plans for decades should've made you stop giving a shit about time passing in the franchise.
Wanting the Sonic cast to grow into adults is cringe anyways, keep that shit in fanfics.
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>>568939656
Anon, I just got here and read through all of this shit, and you really need to just shut the fuck up and take the L. You sound so fucking retarded because you've chosen to disregard blatant information given from canon sources because it doesn't suit whatever your stupid ass headcanon is. Even in the Adventure era, time canonically passed. Heroes alone proved both the passage of time and aging of characters. Seriously, shut the fuck up you fucking stupid retard.
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In my fanfic that doesn't exist, every single character but Sonic and Eggman dies.
Sonic 1 FTW
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>>568939765
The changes weren't as big and significant as you think. It's also irrelevant to this conversation, anon specifically said he doesn't just want character development, he literally wants to see the passage of time, years specifically, as in literally aging, affect the characterizations and designs, with the characters literally becoming older and older as new games come out. This is not that type of series. Sonic will always be a teenager and Tails will always be a kid genius

>>568939906
>But there is a game that literally acknowledges otherwise.
Where
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>>568940187
Sonic Generations.
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>>568940187
>Shadow working for the government isn't a huge deal
Yeah sure. Fuck off
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>>568940149
It doesn't. Which is why the first person I was talking with was literally complaining about it. Sonic is a teenager in Sonic 1 and he is a teenager in every other game. He was always a teeager and still is. The series never aged him beyond that, and it shouldn't, doing so adds nothing, because this series wasn't designed with characters aging in mind

>>568940362
Generations never does anything like that. It keeps the progression of time vague like every other game
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There are five months between SA2 and Heroes then another six months in Forces.
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>>568940451
[citation needed]
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>>568940092
ST cast the first stone with the Adventure redesigns, so you can't blame the fans for having expectations ST planted in the first place.
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Floating timeline logic
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>>568940451
Yes, and the characters are never shown or stated to have aged as a result. The Sonic series keeps time vague and doesn't tie any potential character development to the passage of time in itself

>>568940496
It says 6 months in Forces
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>>568940092
>Forces is shit at storytelling
Means nothing other than Forces being shit
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>>568940430
Don't reply to me, retard. I don't talk to retards.
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>>568940430
Classic Sonic and Tails is clearly meant to be significantly younger than modern Sonic and Tails. Thus the characters can or at least used to be able to age through time even if vaguely.
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Quit posting that shit, no amount of semi-nude characters can make me fap.
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The Meta Era wasn't Meta enough
It's wasn't even that Meta in the sense characters weren't self aware of their existance as mascot characters for a game franchise, rather it was "meta" because people had the impression hiring some guys to write kiddy jokes and a brief shitty campaign for Sonic 4 was Sega's way of apologizing for making bad games. If the most "Meta" thing about your era is the freaking Twitter profile posting shit, is it really that Meta? You might as well say Current Era is more Meta because of Ian's self referencial jokes.
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>>568940830
>anon has erectile dysfunction
That's rough buddy.
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>>568940620
>It says 6 months in Forces
And Heroes?
You don't just pepper in half-correct info to sneak headcanons in, anon, that's how Ian Flynn happened.
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>>568940932
I'm actually iron right now but i won't touch it.
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>>568941002
>And Heroes?
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>>568940830
She can turn heads fully clothed
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>>568940092
Exactly

>>568940559
The redesigns aren't meant to make the characters older

>>568940717
Me replying to you isn't you talking to me. You replying to me is you talking to me. You control your own actions

>>568940750
Do you think Modern Cream looks older than Classic Tails? Do you think they intended for Modern Cream to look older than Classic Tails when they made Sonic Generations? Tails and Classic Tails have been officially stated to both be 8 years old. Sonic characters weren't designed to age in any meaningful way

>>568941002
I don't know, I'm not the one who made the claim. But either way it's irrelevant to the current discussion, because the characters aren't visually or characteristically affected by the 5 or 6 months
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>>568941027
That's even rougher.
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Absolutely nothing in this franchise makes sense anymore and I laugh at the fools who try to make it.
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>>568941168
fuck...
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>>568941164
>PSN invention
ok, but... dafuq?
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You're all thinking too much of this.
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I CANT HELP IT
SHE IS SO HOT
JUST ONE FUCK
PLEASE
LEMME PLAP THAT ANUS ONCE I BEG OF YOU
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A-are you telling me... i'm overthinking this franchise made for children??!!?
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>>568941562
Nope that's a lesbian sorry if you approach her she'll blast the chud you are
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I have consistency fatigue
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Would you still like Sonic if he was bald?
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>>568941326
It makes sense just fine: it's a cartoony series, you're not supposed to think about how the passage of time affects their ages. It's the same deal as Detective Conan, the Pokémon anime, or the Simpsons. Character development can happen, you don't need to make the characters age for it.

Which, as a reminder, is what anon wanted when this whole discussion started: >>568937157 I think you lost the point or jumped into the conversation without reading

Sonic characters don't age and weren't intended to age.
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Why can't Sonic age like me....
Why can't he be old like me....
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>>568941717
That just means you're hom
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>>568941653
Yes
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>>568941365
I always think about Kit a lot, he is too cute
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A story is only as good as (You)r writing skills.
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>>568941661
Plan B then
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>>568941653
Yes, and I’m afraid it’s terminal. I’m prescribing you a ticket to the state fair. You are to ride all the rides and eat all the funnel cakes and corndogs for at least 1 day.
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>>568941804
Anon I've been baiting you for the past 45 minutes over this.
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>>568941562
>"ᶠᶦnᵉ ᵇᵘᵗ ᵇᵉ ᵠᵘᶦᶜᵏ ᵃnᵈ ᵏᵉᵉᵖ ᶦᵗ ᵗᵒ ʸᵒᵘʳˢᵉˡᶠ."
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Sonic would be better if it was a franchise for manchildren instead of actual children
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Sonic can't have a dick because he'd smash it as soon he moves at super speed
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>>568942147
>Dude I was only pretending!!!
Cool to see you admit your argument was wrong and stupid
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>>568941168
Please Post Porn man I can't take it anymore
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Tails should be like dexter
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>>568942404
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Tails should be like Tails
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>>568942137
>state fair
I always wanted to visit the LEGO fair here at rome!
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Sonic bangs this
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>>568934863
although people calling shadria ''sibling coded'' is cope, shadow isn't made for ''tragic romance'' he was visualized around being sonic's darker reflection/rival first.

''Man, it was a real struggle.
The challenge was to create a character just as cool as Sonic, if not cooler. (laughs)

The order for a black hedgehog was set, but it took a heck of a long time before this guy started talking in my head.

Late one night, while driving home from work and thinking about dialogue for a Sonic vs. Shadow showdown scene, Sonic suddenly said, “There you are, faker!”

That’s when Shadow finally responded: “Faker? Hmph, aren’t you the fake one here?”

That’s when it clicked—”This is it!”''
https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/creators-interview-006-maekawa-shirou/

i'm not sure about silver, he was made for showcasing the new physics engine first, but narratively, there isn't much information for what they wanted. i like that you don't do the sibling-coded thing for ships you don't like but you go into the extreme opposite direction.

also one of the reasons the fanbase copes about it is that these characters technically don't do anything objectively beyond the realm of platonic if you don't read between the lines or analyze metaphors. there's both plausible deniability for people who don't like the ships + kishimoto was right when said americans cant read between the lines so people are genuinely illiterate at the same time.
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>>568942025
Sonicfags can’t read, let alone write. Not even college could help them write better.
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>>568942469
No
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>>568942959
You're not seriously telling me Everyday Life was bad are you
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>>568943217
Why
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>>568943260
Oh no what is that? Another Flynn fanfic?
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Amy is the kind of girl who listens to Lorde and Billie Eilish
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Tails should be tragic.
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>>568943519
Billie Eilish got really nice boobs.
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>>568942247
>"Hehehe, you fool. Not only do i get to kill you, but i also get to nut inside you? Two birds with one stone. And then Tangle's next..."
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>>568942469
Boy genius with the hot sexy sister or Serial Killer with the hot sexy sister?
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>>568943667
>"oooooh! Can I watch?"
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>>568932262
i wonder if nakamura ships silvaze, i know maekawa does and theres a chance nishiyama does at this point
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>>568942326
What was i pretending? You were still biting my bait. Watch your tone with me Tailsfag. I'll give Tailshaters more ammo just to spite you.
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>>568943667
Honestly he should've done it, fuck Whisper. Give her girlfriend a Punished Tangle arc.
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>>568942746
>he was visualized around being sonic's dadker reflection/ rival first
See that's the thing, these characters have these concepts but that hardly ever matches up with their direction. Shadow has this tragic backstory that obviously takes center stage about his character when they give him focus, but it's totally diverged from his concept of Sonic's rival despite him being marketed as such. A character like Metal Sonic or Knuckles, when Sonic Team remembers their actual purpose, is better suited to fill that rival role.
>Silver
Well we have Nakamura's interview which gave me the impression Sonic Team doesn't actually have a strong vision for the characters outside their debut and role. Like they don't really know *how* SSS is supposed to work, they just got it in their heads that it must.

This works great for blurbs like Sonic Channel but it just falls apart outside of it.
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>>568943349
He’s at his most boring when he’s only about tech. He’s so much more than that
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>>568944059
Oh noes! They'll make yet another shitpost that I won't see because I know how to use filters!
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>>568944198
Well Nakamura is a fucking idiot and the fact he’s still around in any kind of important role will always reflect poorly on Sonic Team at large
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The Sonic franchise will undergo a massive renaissance when 90s nostalgia finally kicks in just a couple of years
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>tailsfag is getting uppity again
Need i remind them?
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Boyyyy! <3
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>"Uh, can we help you?"
>"Why do you keep staring at us? You're kinda creepy..."
>"Don't tell me you're one of those overlanders who like mobians..."
>"Ewwwwwwww!"
>"Are you seriously getting turned on by a little mobian's butt? You're gross!"
>"Mobophile!"
>"He probably jerks off to mobo34!"
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>>568944503
We've been in early 2000s nostalgia mode for a while now and they've done jack shit for it
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>>568944571
that's somehow less pathetic than sucking cocks at some convo but still
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>>568942746 (me)

>>568944198
it isn't diverged from the concept of being a rival/dark mirror to sonic actually, think about what sonic would be like if amy or tails were brutally murdered as he watches, that's the point of shadow and maria, to show something too ''dark'' for team sonic to pull off.
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>>568944668
then the next panel is both of them getting both holes filled
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>>568944701
We've just done Shadow nostalgia which isn't the same thing. 90s Nostalgia will be a cultural phenomenon all across media like how 80s was and is ending with stuff like Stranger Things finished
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Tails is the best character in the series
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>>568944503
>when 90s nostalgia finally kicks in just a couple of years
2000s nostalgia has been in vogue for 6 years now
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>>568944893
>90s Nostalgia will be a cultural phenomenon all across media
That was the early 2010s. Also these things can coexist

>Stranger Things
That's not 80s nostalgia. Maybe the first season, but after that it's shipping and memes
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Sex Shadow
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>>568944783
me again
>>568944198
maybe rival isn't the best best word for it but he's made to tell something about sonic without actually making something stupid like writing a story about tails/amy getting impaled
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>>568945089
mhm
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>>568945089
This is what I would think if I were a huge faggot.
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>>568942472
maor
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>>568945179
I hope whenever 2010s nostalgia hits it completely skips over Sonic
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>>568945365
:D
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>>568944668
Amy's used to it.
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>>568944795
Knuckles...
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I found a lot of people online claiming Sonic Chronicles was set 2 years after the mainline games but I can't find any evidence from anything official on this
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>>568945305
Well the movies did it better because Sonic actually lost Longclaw. And Knuckles and Blaze do it better on the freedom/ duty axis. And Metal Sonic on the artificial/ natural axis.

I just think the Shadow/ Sonic lore is really weak.
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>>568944893
>Scrubs return
>Malcolm in the Middle return
>Linkin Park return
>My Chemical Romance return
Face it kiddo, we've been in the 2000s nostalgia era and the most we got from it was Shadow Generations.
Besides, you already got your 90s "renaissance" with original Generations and then Mania. It's done.
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>>568944376
I will crush you little Tailsbro.
Break you upon my many baits.
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Shadaria is romantic. While it was left vague, all signs and statements from creation indicate "see it how you like but it was made romantic."
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>>568945574
>2 years after the mainline games
All of them?
>>568945673
We need to make fun of nostalgiatards again.
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>>568945574
Game of telephone since early previews emphasized that the game was set after Eggman's final defeat. This might actually come from an early storyline or misreport somewhere, but it's certainly nowhere to be found in the final.
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>>568945673
All of those are flopping so looks like 2000s nostalgia is actually a fluke
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My boy!
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>>568945732
You have quite a few cute Tails pics for someone who’s supposedly baiting against him, anon
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>>568945965
More like they suck at giving 2000s nostalgia.
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Well, Bubsy 4d came and went. The retards actually launched a game that will randomly crash on you if you play with an uncapped framerate thus doomed themselves. Worst still is their first patch doesn't fix it. They just removed the "uncapped framerate" option and called it a day.

Well, at least the Bubsy IP is still alive or at least done now (game doesn't sequel bait). Still a joke compared to Sonic and his giant IP cock.
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Holy shit I love Tails so much bros.
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>>568945951
>>568945574
Final defeat as in "final" or "the adventure before this".
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>>568945574
That's from Ian Flynn. His mindset is to put Sonic Chronicles at the end of the timeline. He's not wrong as it is a practical solution to the legal nonsense.

Just don't ask about Sage...
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>>568945965
>All of those are flopping
Not even close but ok
The good news is that hopefully we're never getting more Classic shit after Superstars bombed.
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>>568944503
It is currently the 2000s nostalgia Era. Sonic is late to the party because the waited for the Sonic movies to confirm how nostalgic people were for rock music and edge even though everyone else has caught on by now
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>>568946176
Ellie and Osh sounds interesting based on your description
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>>568946483
Never forget that Sega genuinely thought people hated Shadow because of youtuber opinions
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>>568946448
More like Sega sabotaged the Classic branch by letting Arzest make the shoddiest looking game they could and ignoring Mania devs
It's technically fine because Classicfags had their fill and were proven of their moral and technical superiority with Mania. Their victory is eternal.
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>>568946530
The game does have a demo if you're interested.

https://oshmakesgames.itch.io/ellie-and-osh-demo
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>>568946176
Oh that's why people were complaining?

I played on fixed frame rate.
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>>568946483
Sonic actually tried to do it well in advance with Forces. They just didn't do it well at all, and not everyone at SEGA trusted the idea so it's very halfhearted. Frontiers did it somewhat better.
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>>568945574
The game ends on a cliffhanger with no follow-up so it's always been placed at the end of the timeline by fans. Don't know where anyone is getting two years though
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OCs?
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>>568946483
I would say the Sonic movies feel 2000s not like a 2000s Sonic game but like those movies about spy pets like the spy dog or the spy guinea pigs. It's heartfelt and made with sincerity
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>>568946679
Mania is mostly just a rehash. It's a fun game, but the credit for that goes to the games it's ripping off. Superstars is fine, too.
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https://youtu.be/JtZnKkJAyxc?si=WFZIIgYV8VwziBAC
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Da boy
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>>568946704
Thanks, maybe I'll check it out! It looks fun from the screenshots
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>>568946705
Yep, so many gamers had the game crashing on them (cause the recommended specs are that low). Really hurt the game cause evidently, nobody at Fabraz playtested the game's settings.

Even for a $20 game, that's embarrassing.
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>>568946154
I'm a tailsfag, tailsfag.
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>>568946621
The one good thing about normies invading nerd spaces after covid was the reveal that most people like Shadow and it was only insecure nerds who hated sincere edgekono
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>>568945420
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>>568946795
Fuck off Woefag



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