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E-girl edition

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>ACI is playable again!
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>AC7
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BECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...
>New Ace Combat trailer?
YES! COMING OCTOBER 2 2026
https://youtu.be/5i_W3HDZVLA
>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.
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>>569404354
How come PW get to have TWO(2) WSOs and we get zero(pixy)?
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https://x.com/Okami13_/status/2062547016824098973
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How well can an RTX 3060 run this game? Can I even hit 60 fps without my PC heating up?
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>>569404508
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>>569404508
>Fully explore Endurance
So walk around sections and probably squadmate bonding confirmed?
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>>569404695
You'll have to wait and see, it's UE5 so entirely unpredictable
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I hope this new IRL stealth plane (even if it's just a prototype) is featured in AC8.
https://xcancel.com/ProjectFearX/status/2061900806660694159
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>>569404695
>>569404990
I'd say we can trust PA to deliver on optimisation. AC7 would run on my shitass laptop, even if at the lowest possible setting, and that bitch had 768MB of VRAM and 2 GHz of clock speed on a good day.
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AC8 Mission 4 Gameplay:
https://youtu.be/a7uKjH6e488
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>>569405026
Coming in the next season pass
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>>569405284
i feel a visceral disgust whenever i see someone use beginner flight mode
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I can't wait to sweep my gun all over that bird
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>CA-1 Europa is an autonomous fighter jet in the three-to-five ton class under development at Helsing and its subsidiary Grob Aircraft. Combining the Centaur AI software and mission stack with Grob's proven capability in aircraft design and manufacturing, CA-1 represents a clean-slate approach to air dominance.
dron
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>>569405271
i really don't want to have to refund my preorder...
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>>569405026
It would be a more convincing image if the screen shot didn't have an AK & bullet icon on the screen
>>569370764
Again its just the XFA-24
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With strangereals obsession with air superiority
How will they play with the reality of drones taking over everything, not those drones tho
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>>569405860
>It would be a more convincing image if the screen shot didn't have an AK & bullet icon on the screen
supposedly it's ghost hunters who got lucky using a thermal gun scope
so not the brightest in the shed of content creators
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>>569405271
The problem is that any optimization efforts seems to be hardcapped due to forced RT
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30 minutes to go from hitting new game until you're in mission and flying I get they want to give newcomers the rundown but Jesus
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that's fucking sick dude
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>>569406163
It could be any number of test bed aircraft we don't know exist sure. It could be the F-47 protoype it just don't smell right though

Yeah
>Press X to doubt
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>>569405026
Its just a J-20 they acquired for Constant Peg 2.0
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>>569406448
I think we are looking at the most story heavy entry since Ace Combat 3 which is kind of fitting as the franchise is on the cusp of being back at AC3.
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>>569408306
what do we do if the story sucks
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>>569408371
We call Katabuchi a hackfraud and a poppyhead.
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>>569406947
I am definitely bringing SFFS to this mission.
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>>569408371
Cry, I guess.
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>>569408371
It's gonna be AC5-tier at worst, which means mildly fun as long as you turn your brain off.
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>>569408371
then just ignore it and play the funny plane game
its what i do for 5 and 6
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>>569408371
If the multiplayer is even remotely like Infinity, I'm spending most of my playtime on it anyways.
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Is it just me, or did you get the vibe that they were going for a "won't you think of the refugee" vibes
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>>569409132
No.
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>>569408929
i already like joker more than anyone in 5, so i'm going to take that as a good sign
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>>569409237
so you did get that vibe too
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>>569408371
At least it's going to be one story planned front to back instead of 3 different stories smashed together somewhat disjointedly due to the game being scrapped 3 times like 7
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>>569409132
They made Tasha cute for a reason
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I'm really liking the sound effects holy shit 7 was bad but this sounds a bit more like Infinity to me
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>>569409715
Well no, Tasha is literally a egirl recruiter from the yuke demonstration squad that joined up for the war and becoming an actual soldier
It's like if Lujan somehow got shanghaied into fighting in a real war
It's part of the "fake becoming real" theme that they are obviously going for
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The Endurance air boss sounds like Garrus from Mass Effect in the English dub. If that is his VA I'm always happy to see him pop up in random games.
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>>569408371
We fuckin DANCE WITH THE ANGELS because SHAMROCK IS DOWN!!! MARCUS, MARCUS!!!! ALL PLANES GET IN THERE AND SAVE HIM!!!

nothing will be as bad as 6 not even 5
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>>569406947
Big Shiee is back
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Just watched the gameplay

idk.. grim?
I don't mind cutscenes, but something about cutscenes when they're already in the planes give me icky vibes, feels "wrong"
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>>569410663
Grim isn't in this game.
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>>569408161
It would be more fun to find out how the corrupt official manage to hide a J-20 falling off a truck than yeah we have one.
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>>569410663
They've been doing that since the ps2 games
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>>569410816
this feels different and I don't know why
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>>569410308
at least you can skip the story in 6
you can't do that in 5 and 7
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>>569410856
UE5 is making your mind feel strange
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>>569411342
It's strange and real
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Any links to those deleted mission videos in english?
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>569397719
they uploaded Cope into your AI wso. that's how you're hearing him talking to you the whole game even though he's supposed to be dead.
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>>569411806
>"GLA Postal Service!"
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>>569410308
I'm gonna be honest I do not get the hate for 6's story at all aside from the funny meme line. I actually like Shamrock a lot, he ranks pretty well on the Buddy hierarchy in my book.
>>569411601
Say that again.....
>>569411806
Kek I wonder what the context for this is gonna be.
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No sight of PLS, TLS or Railgun on the tech tree yet. I guess the FCU is to poor to afford good weapons and we have to pay the friendly GR rep a couple of million credits to buy us some from Osea to equip on our high end planes then?

>>569411806
>IED
>Ally unit
I'm sorry I can do that arab yell I can only do the Confederate yell
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Watching the uninterrupted missions and apparently Shark squad was an FCU squad that defected alongside Newfield to ally with Sotoa. Sounds like I'm shoving all the SpW up their asses when they show up.
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But what is Belka's involvement in all of this?
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>>569413525
I don't know how, I just know they're profiting off of this somehow
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>>569413313
So that's why they use F-15s? A bit, lame. Wish we could get more "bad guy" squadrons with western planes because its Strangereal after all.
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>>569413525
The FCU is run by Belkans, and the antagonists are the good guys this time.
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>>569411806
They're remote controlled but it's still funny
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>>569413525
Watching the Sotoans successfully act like a superpower and wishing they were as competent.
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>>569413052
>Kek I wonder what the context for this is gonna be.
basically, joker distracts/knocks out the defenses. when the building collapses immobilize the battleship the trucks go underneath it and suicide bomb the mechanisms keeping the armor skirts in place over the treads
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God,I can't wait until we get the soundtrack. It sounds so good from what I've heard so far
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Enemy ECM seems way less annoying this time around, looks like target locks don't take forever while in green bubbles any more. Although that might be because the gameplay video I watched is probably on ez modo, given that the gun ammo is unlimited.
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>>569404354
Can't wait to see Ace Combat hit full mainstream because of this fucking e-girl.
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>>569415786
That's gonna be a <<NO>> from me dog. I wonder if this will actually matter to the story or not.
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>>569415786
I wish the d-pad looked like it did in older games, this almost looks out of place
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>>569416414
That looks like a 2007 Xbox 360 Dpad, they used a green X button QTE icon too.

Very weird, I think they're trying to aim at xbox people for some reason.
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>>569416414
Are those the PS5 face buttons why do they look like that
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>>569415786
I'm making a new storyteller kid.
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>>569406947
Feels like making that into a ship shape limits the weaponry options
Imagine how many more guns and VLS you could fit there if the bow didnt have to come to a point
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I hate Tasha because she looks exactly like the girl who ruined my life
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>>569404695
If they optimize it, you will have not a single problem.
Id they don't, it would be unplayable for you (us) since unoptimized UE5 uses the 30XX cards only at 50% (3080 haver)
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This is gonna run like shit unless I get a new PC but it's kino
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>>569416836
>exactly like the girl who ruined my life
qrd? curious
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>>569417397
I sent her a dick pic and she got me expelled.
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>>569416836
Damn, did you never learn about aposematic coloration?
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>seversky
Don't fall for it bros
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>>569416220
i've seen yes and no answered and in both cases the guy is alive at the end
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>>569417795
kojimbo...
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>>569417795
So what is this saucy lady about to do to Sever the Sky
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>>569417838
Ah. Kinda figured
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>>569417614
she wasnt your girlfriend or something?
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I think one of the things I'm most excited to hear about is the flight model, the fact that its heavier than 7 and more in line with the PS2 games is awesome. I like being able to pull off bullshit in 7 but its flight model makes half the roster feel exactly the same handling wise.
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>>569418187
wait that's nuclear option
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>>569413237
I hope shit like EML won't be upgradeable. They're already powerful enough weapons the way they are.
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>>569417397
Made up allegations against my and my "friends" didn't even want to hear my side of the story despite the allegations making zero sense
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>>569416725
It does apparently go into the water as well. So I guess the implications are that the Sotoans sailed their Land Battleship fleet, defeated most of the FCU Navy (hence the Endurance being so important), and rolled them onto land once their sealanes were secured.
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>>569420762
They were flow in part by part.
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>>569421963
You can see the landships being carried by air
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This emblem looks sick, reminds me or Armored Core.

>>569416193
Never gonna happen. Planes are the great filter.
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>>569421963
>>569422308
I'm going by Chole's video where he claims they're also seagoing. The preview players got to play missions 1-5, and the ones we're seeing footage of today are 4, 9, and 11. Going by what's currently known, 9 has you attack one of likely multiple Land Battleships, and 11 is the mission where you intercept the Podarges bringing in spare Landship parts.
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Bets on what the sooperplen is gonna be? A prototype of something from 3, or something entirely unanticipated?
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>we included drop tanks because they look cool
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we love our e-girls here
don't we folks
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Since she's a pilot I hope she's actually relevant instead of being Avril 2.0.
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>>569423179
I'm hoping it's something carrier based. Or it's just a production model of the Apalis because that's my favorite X superplane.
>>569423208
Oh so you can drop them, some videos I saw said you couldn't. Finally I can properly LARP before a match in MP/campaign mission begins.
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I will not fall for the charms of the Yuke fiend
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>>569424247
but surely you'll help her with her homework, r-right anon?
and let her scooch closer to you in the mess hall...
and let her lean on your shoulder...
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>>569423179
Carrier Wyvern obtained via Erusean lend-lease.
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>>569422387
Agreed on the filter. But more AC girls are welcome, there's also a criminal lack of Avril and Cossette in general.
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>>569424023
The fact that 8 is really shaping up to be 5 2.0 then the squad should have relevancy. I'm curious how Kate is going to be worked in since the way she is presented makes it look like she is tied to the squad but she's in a different squad.
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>>569424531
So just the Wyvern then.
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>>569422387
How come planes are a filter but boats aren't?
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>>569425143
normies can't into 3D movement
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>Your choices and how well you do can affect which characters survive in the story
Imagine your waifu dying because you're shit at the game
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>>569425292
That's a weird looking A-10.
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>>569425143
What >>569425260 says, and they also can't wrap their heads around not being able to stop.
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Watched the gameplay. How come everyone calls the main dude Rex but Tasha calls him Ray?
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>>569425636
Rey, Spanish for "king", because apparently Yuktobanian gets translated to Spanish in non-Strangereal.
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i really like featherhead as the enemy nickname for (You)
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>>569425775
>Spanish communist federation
Based
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Still can't believe the dude's name is Jane Cope.
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>>569425648
I need a hi-res image and irl patch of this emblem immediately.
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>>569423179
Its a drone, its always drones.
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>>569426745
And he looks like Temu Maverick too. That shit got to be intentional, its hilarious.
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>>569425775
>>569426689
This feels like such an odd choice given Yukes always have Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky ass names and they've generally been protrayed as a mix of a bunch of slavic cultures. But I guess that kinda makes sense since a lot of communist movements popped up in Spanish speaking parts of the world.
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>>569426745
Btw buddies this guy's channel has gameplay of missions 4, 9, and 11 in English if you wanna watch them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awUUsyopBfg
>>569427262
In some extended gameplay I saw Cope's force ghost says something about a drummer and a bassist dying. I'm honestly starting to wonder if Cope wasn't even in the military to begin with or he was drafted when the Sotoans invaded and just bumbled his way into being the Wings of Sneed by accident.
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>the new ace combat has microtransactions and a season pass
And here I am wishing armored core 6 got some dlc
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>>569404467
Was the guy shouting BINGO! in Air Combat the awacs or a WSO or who
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Oh also, the fact that noise plays the guitar and flew alongside Cope makes me think that they were just a band, having a thrash, and then got shanghaied into being fighter pilots.
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>the new AWACS speaks in Bongish
Uhh, alright then.
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>>569427837
He's not Osean for once
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>>569427781
Honestly I'd rather get Armored Core 6: 2 over DLC at this point.
>>569427814
Either or depending on the plane.
>>569427837
If you look at the map, the FCU has some very Anglo city names. The only thing missing is one that ends in -shire.
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>>569413313
>Shark squad
S H A R K B A S T A R D
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>dead mentor living in your head
This is like the seventh game I've played in the past couple of years with this trope
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>>569428321
I can't blame writers for using it so much, when done right it's a great storytelling device. I like it better when your character is going full schizo and talking to them though.
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>>569417838
That's because you haven't gone full Butterfly Master and lasered the bail out pilot.
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>>569428221
American humor escapes me.
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>>569428321
Well at least Cope has a nice and smooth sounding voice. Couldn't stand Keanu Chungus in Cyberpunk.
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Forget the Y*ke bitch.
I want to know more about this goddess.
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>>569416414
mods will fix it
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>>569424247
Bartlett was ahead of the game.
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>>569425648
Man, they're really making 7 look like shit with these.
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>>569428321
my money's on it being some sort of proto-sublimation thing
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>>569428896
I want to know whose dying in Joker so she becomes part of Joker.
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>>569428896
>leader of the other squad named queen's flight
>your character is named rex(king)
Kino incoming
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>>569428221
AKULA!
*takes missile to the cockpit*
WEW, I CAN'T EJECT!
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>>569428732
>Keanu
That motherfucker was sleepwalking through his lines. Shit actor and even shittier voice actor
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>>569429226
not-Dision will leave your squad for GR mid-campaign
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>>569429226
I hope it’s Professor.
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>>569416646
it's a ps5 controller dpad, since they were presumably playing the demo on ps5
it'll probably look different based on console
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>>569418059
She's going to betray us in the end
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Am I a bad guy for planning to keep Professor in the electronic warfare planes?
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>>569429226
>>569429295
This whole theory about Knocker is bullshit, but I believe it.
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>>569429358
good chance if it does happen it's him, considering how autistic he seems about MUH FRIENDS and how there seems to be some focus on traitor squads a-la World With No Boundries
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>>569429442
No.
Banish his ass to the nerd squad.
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dafuq does this game need a battlepass for
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>>569429421
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>>569429610
Bamco suits seem to think this game has a big normalfag audience, they're in for a rude awakening.
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>>569429376
Should’ve just done white or green outlines, like in AC5 (or like the wingman commands in this very game). It’s so much more seamless.
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>>569429743
If the campaign is 25 something hours then Bamco can do whatever the fuck they want with the multiplayer.
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>>569429610
DESU, if it means they’re planning fairly extensive post-launch support, I might consider it worth it.
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>>569422665
I'm sure they can go in the water but that doesn't change between what we see and what was said implies they are being sent by air.
Some attack the cost and move in as far as they can. Others can't get that far inland unless they are flown in like the one we'll destroy in the capitol
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Learned my lesson from AC7. I'm going all the PvP achievements week one and then never touching the mode ever again.
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>>569429857
i guess, i got a lot of fun out of infinity but i never actually spent money on it
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One briefing mentions the Tonitrus Sattelites, which is latin for 'thunder'. More or less confirms we're dealing with rods from God type weapons. Unless it's a weather control sattelite.
>>569429610
FOMO to keep people playing.
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>>569429813
i'm willing to bet it's some console compliance thing
there's also 4 months to launch, so things could change in the meantime
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>>569429610
They want to bring back Infinity but without the Fuel I presume.
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>>569429843
There is no way a mission based game could ever be that long, unless they're going to do Metal Gear Solid 4 and FF16 tier cutscenes.
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>>569423208
I'll be happy to waste a misc slot on a drop tank just so I can drop it before I go into battle for nothing more than it look cool to do it. I bet most everywhere in /aceg/ thinks the same
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>>569429610
Whale bait.

>>569429743
A fair number of normies did end up buying AC7, if they can convert a chunk of them into multiplayer it could be a real payday for bamco. Or I’m sure that’s the theory, at least. Remember that Infinity was a significant financial success.
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>>569430303
>Remember that Infinity was a significant financial success.
And that was back when AC was much less of a big franchise compared to now.
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>>569430303
I can see it. People complain all the time about BP, DLC, micortransactions, gacha, etc. But at the same time, these things are stupidly profitable despite the kvetching over them. There's too many people willing to pay up for a company to drop them.
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>>569430227
Drop tanks don't use weapon stations on most planes so they should be free to pick.
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>>569424531
In the lore the FCU built several X-02's as test units after the continental war.
To obtain the X-02 you just find it in a hanger during a mission
To obtain the X-02S you buy it from this new company called Neucom. It comes with a COFFIN option
You don't know how much I want this to really happen
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>>569430012
Eh, if it's more like Infinity it might be worth a damn. I really liked the team vs team co-op missions, shame about the fuel and grind.
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>>569415786
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>>569430702
They take up a Misc part slot though.
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>>569430762
Fucking Belkans...
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>>569430450
We also don't know exactly how predatory the battlepass will be. As an example, The Crew 2 was awful when they first added a battlepass system, but eventually they made the full thing buyable with regular in-game currency.
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>>569430894
I'm still hoping they take a Helldivers approach and make the battle pass buyable more or less whenever, and especially I hope it's one of the passes where finishing it gives you the currency to buy the next one so you really only buy it one time with real money.
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>>569430450
I honestly don’t hate whale-funded games, not inherently at least. If some retard wants to drop hundreds on cosmetics and I get to play for free or cheap, I’ll take that deal. It’s only a problem when they gate major content, in this case I guess that would be planes and maybe bonus levels.
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>no sight of laser weapons or the OC planes from 3 and X
I'm not feeling so good buddies.............
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>>569430303
battlepass isn't really whalebait
if you're hunting for whales you go gacha route
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>>569431229
the morgan is a pre-order plane
it's also too early for the 3 planes
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>>569431229
I'm really hoping that stuff like that just wasn't in the build they're showing off.
>>569431286
Or cosmetic packs.
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>>569429376
They were playing on PC actually. One of today's videos, I think Oboe's, had the specs for the rigs they used.

>>569429936
Anon do you understand how retarded it sounds to transport an entire warship in pieces across an ocean to assemble it on-site, instead of sailing the thing across and then engaging land mode?
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Why is nobody talking about how the entire radar mini map disappears when you pull up the wingman commands? Minor thing but kind of annoying
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>>569431229
Who's expecting AC3 planes?
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>>569431392
nta but being shipped by air is faster than shipping itself by sea.
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>>569430727
I really want to see objective-based PvPvE, personally. An evolved version of Capital Assault from AH would be great. Fleet vs fleet battles. Or one team is attacking a fortress and the other is defending it. That kind of thing.

For all the things wrong with AH, it had some pretty cool multiplayer features.
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>>569431082
>in this case I guess that would be planes
The ADFX-02 is (temporarily?) locked behind the premium battlepass.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B-EWLPtCUU&pp=ygUTYWNlIGNvbWJhdCA4IGRlbHV4ZQ%3D%3D&t=72
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>>569430702
Todays videos shows you the drop tank is listed under the misc parts section. If you want to use them it takes one misc. slot
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>>569431460
Eh, it was always like that, wasn’t it?
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>>569431229
Might be DLC again
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>>569431229
definitely feeling some trepidation around that
no 6th gens
no chinese or korean or whatever

if they don't pad it out with OCs then the roster won't look too different from 7 which really sucks considering we're 10 years down the timeline
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>>569431553
iirc they said the battlepass was a "get it instantly" thing so I assume it's a "don't buy the battlepass and you grind up 69% of a level per match and at level 30 you unlock the Morgan"

but that's merely a guess
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>>569431782
>no 6th gens
I can't imagine them trying to do this when the various countries don't know themselves the end state of 6th gen beyond classified stuff.
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Are they going to restock the Joker Flight Pack editions?
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>>569431082
what's the least worst
Locking super planes behind 5 buck DLC like AC7?
or locking them behind online battlepasses?

I think I'd prefer the latter if they implement it well but we don't know enough right now
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Ace Combat Fan pointed out on twitter that the mission briefings contain specs for included superweapons. We have gameplay footage of Missions 4, 9, and 11 in 4k so I thought I'd screenshot the relevant vehicles.

From Mission 4: Project Triumphant, a supersub being built by the FCU but stuck on Newfield Island when they defected. Little under 1/2 the size of the Alicorn but with FAR less displacement. Notably, not nuclear powered like the Alicorn.
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>>569430303
Infinity worked because it was F2P and Japs were allowed to play with everyone else. Accessible for some bored rando scrolling through PSN bored at 3am. Infinity really wasn't that populated from what I remember, even still.
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>>569431872
I think it's part of the premium pass buddy
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not watching any full mission video
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speaking of laser weapons and the morgan god do i hope they dont fuck the damage output of it like they did in 7
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From Mission 9: Terpan Class Land Battleship No. 1 "Xanthos". Glancing at the Wiki it's roughly the size of the Alicorn, and notably has 8 Pump Jets for water propulsion and 8 main + 8 sub crawlers for land movement. Interestingly the corporation Enso Order who helped Sotoa build these was also one of the builders of the Project Triumphant submarines, along with GR and the FCU.
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>>569432215
Ohhhh that kind of model. Meh, I'll cope with non-battlepass planes
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Lastly, from Mission 11 some info on the Podarges. These things have nearly a kilometer long Wingspan and can reach speeds of 700km, with a range of 8,300 km. Ace Combat Fan also noticed that they appear to be seaplanes, based on a recent promo image.
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>>569432405
best case:
free tier has enough premium currency to buy premium tier once you clear it.
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>>569432701
there's some unsubtitled background radio chatter in that mission about "seaplanes that can't do water landings" or something like that
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does anyone know what this is supposed to mean?
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>>569432701
>seaplanes
Strangereal Spruce Geese. Neat.
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The soundtrack is so cool.
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Bonus Purple Magic squadron emblem. These guys are from White Valley and are fucking dead, their squad being wiped out on a previous attack on the land battleship that caused it to go down Theve for a resupply. Their logo reminds me of LLenn's logo from GGO.

>>569426749
Best you're going to get with for now, buddy.
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>>569432997
no fuel/contracts/tickets i guess
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What the hell even are all these things, I'm guessing there's a plane and some roundels or skins, and all the other shit?
Why is ace combat infected with this cancer now?
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>>569433327
moneh
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>>569433327
are you new to namco?
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>>569433548
Yes
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>>569433668
Some people fondly refer to them as scamco. Make of that what you will.
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>>569432879
Interesting. Would make sense considering how much cargo they can be hauling but that makes me wonder how they unload.
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>>569431392
Is this your first AC or something?
Landships are big which means a lot of terrain is completely impassible for them the capitol city is inland.
We see parts that match the landships that kind of narrows it down to one thing they are carrying some of them or all of them got shipped by air and assembled in USEA. If they are replacement parts then it means these things were built for quick assembly.
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>>569433313
Thank god for that
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><<WARNING! SOTOAN BACKED MERCENARIES SQUADRON HAS ENTERED THE AIRSPACE , REX THEY COMING ON YOUR 6!>>
>Cinematic start
>5 planes in Purple and Red camo
>[Spoiler] Pic Insigna appear , INTERNATIONAL MERCENARY SQUADRON : NEO-SCARFACE [/Spoiler]
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>>569432701
They are the same size as the Arsenal Bird. Makes sense as the Podarges are unused assets from 7
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>>569434917
actually now that i think about it it might be referring to in-mission consumable items. like a pack that gives you a dozen super missiles but once you fire off those dozen you have to buy another pack. there's clearly some sort of meta progression booster listed in the premium pass that seems like it's consumable.
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>>569433327
No seriously can someone explain what all that stuff is
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>>569405527
It'd be cool if the next AC in the timeline does properly add actual IRL CCA built by various countries instead of adding fictional design, we're really on the cusp of cool things
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>>569435306
it's for the online mode, probably a lot of credit boosters ammo boosters, maybe even "crafting materials" and "schematics"
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>>569435306
nobody knows
the roundels and avatar skins are obvious
but they've barely talked how the online will actually function so no idea what the "tickets" and "folders" are
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>>569434726
>the capital city is inland
Buddy, gameplay footage for mission 4 is out. Not only do we see Theve's coastline but we also get a trail of the land battleship cutting across the continent from White Valley down to Highmarch. Also, what are you basing your assumption on that these things have difficulty passing terrain? Like you said it's fucking Strangereal.
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>>569435306
Mostly cosmetic stuff for AC Online, and Pixy's livery for the Morgan from the sounds of it.
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>>569435306
This has got to be a troll no one can be that clueless. Have you never played a single video game in your life? The icons tell you exactly what your getting for MP with those passes.
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>>569433187
I'm not too fond of the track during the land battleship mission, but otherwise, yes it is
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>>569433327
atleast the campaign progression is separate.
so you can safely ignore all of this stuff and have same experience as in previous games
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>>569434726
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>>569435037
>its actually a 17 vs 4 plane fight where you fight planes that reference each of the scarface squadron members
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>>569425292
>no phantom
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Long overdue feature, but damn am I glad to see it.
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>>569435780
Nigger what the fuck do I know what these are.
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>>569434505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJofWL3KD_Q&t=536s
found it, sounds like
>the hell's the point of a seaplane that can't land on water?
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>>569436129
There is a Mobius skin included in the preorder, the Panthom is definitely in the game.
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>>569435709
I'm trying to avoid spoiling the entire game before I play it I want something fun to look forward too in Oct.

> difficulty passing terrain
The same reason you car can't go everywhere its not made for it some places aren't passable for vehicles and something like that is going to have trouble in a lot of places just from its size.

> fucking Strangereal
Yeah thats exactlywhy every type of ground known to man can be found in a area about the size of some US states.

Still doesn't answer or change the question of why we're seeing parts that look like the landships being brought in by air
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Any AIM-260 news?
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with so many features returning , please Kono...please give us back ACES OF ACES bonus missions
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>>569436490
The landships won't be all that fast compared to the Podarges, even if they have amphibious capability.
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>>569436257
What is in a file folder?
a sheet of paper with a 100% on it some of your stuff is fully unlocked
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>>569431082
>>569430450
It takes years for Project Aces to make a game so they really need repeat sales to keep the franchise alive, especially as things get more expensive.
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>>569406947
hell yeah
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>>569436928
>some of your stuff is fully unlocked
What stuff
If you're asking people to pay extra money you ought to tell them exactly what they're getting
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>>569425292
>Clean Aircraft
Can't wait to lather up my Tomcat
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What's the deal with Cope speaking inside your head?
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>>569437424
Rex got MK ultra by FCU glowies
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>>569436928
>What is in a file folder?
A miserable little pile of secrets.
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>>569436732
I wouldn't mind seeing gunslingers if we're trying to outhope the cope.
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>>569420762
The briefing in >>569435709 said they crossed the continent instead of going all the way around it via sea, indicating its an amphibious vessel. It also doubles as a 3D printing factory for drones. Looking at all the footage of it, I question if those parts we see air lifted are actually land-ship parts or something else.
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>>569437424
The numbers, Rex
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>>569437424
>>569437523
>>569438052
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TLS is going to feel amazing with the new damage system.
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Cancelled my preorder. So sad Project Aces got taken over by wokies, but I'm used to it by now.
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>>569412206
Does someone need a special delivery?
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>>569439707
I can't wait to sweep my TLS across the sky and watch those A-50's and Podarges just fall out of the sky. Just like in the good old PS2 days
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>>569437780
>>569437780
>The briefing in >>569435709 said they crossed the continent instead of going all the way around it via sea, indicating its an amphibious vessel.

Their goal is apparently to beeline for resupply at the Enso Special Zone, which during the mission is in FCU territory. I wonder what the significance of Enso is considering their name keeps popping up, with even the JP webpage url for 8 being Enso Order.

It makes the most sense to me to bring over amphibs via sea during the initial phase of the war, and after supply routes are established/protected by the Terminus Fingers satellite weapons major resupply would be done via the Podarges. But 11's briefing all but states that Sotoa's bringing in Land Battleship parts to Rocky Island, where they ostensibly assemble them and then have them cross the ocean to the Usea mainland. So I guess that settles that.
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>>569440565
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>>569440798
You replied to it, though.
Solitary, now.
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How does ace combat lore work
What do i miss out on if i skip 1-6 and jump into 7 and are the sequels always direct sequels or a 20 years later new cast type thing?
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>>569440729
Enso
Its the Grey Men secret USEA base with all the wonder weapons in it.
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Any SFFS yet
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So General Resources Inc is manifesting destiny right now, do I have this right? Like, actual proof?
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This is a LITTLE BEE general.
KNEEL.
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>>569440902
all the games are set in the same setting but always different wars, but sometimes related events/locations/countries from other games appear.
You can understand every story on its own but having played older games adds a lot.

1-2 have minimal story and can be skipped (2 has best ost though)
4-5-Zero are quite important to setting up the rest of the series.
6 is basically completely standalone
7 follows up on 4-5-Zero and it seems 8 is going to follow up on 7
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>>569440902
they all take place in the same world on the same timeline just at different places and dates.
though it is strongly recommended to play the ps2 trinity first (4, 5, zero) 7 is a decent enough starting point. if you don't want to play the ps2 ones first, play 7 and if you like it go check out the older games. 7 has a lot of callbacks to 4 and 5 but it's not strictly required to play those to understand 7.
4 properly solidified the franchise's setting and lore going forward, and i recommend it regardless because i think it's a great game. zero (fantastic) is a prequel to 5 (it's ok) but both can be played on their own.
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>>569441462
Am tired and forgot to mention that 3 is set in the far future and the series still hasn't caught up to it in the timeline
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>>569440902
You'll just be confused at all the names and locations and miss out on all the hints and easter eggs that flesh out the world and story.
>sequels always direct sequels
Yes every game leads us that much closer to the electrosphere.

Only 5 & 0 are connected to the same story the rest all tell a self contained story. If you wanna know the lore go read up on the wiki before you play 7.
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>Feels like I'm the only one super hyped for getting a coop mode
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Keep swimmin' soldier. Make it home alive
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>>569441657
I want to be hyped but im scared they'll make the multiplayer super grindy
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>>569441375
dreadful wrinkles around her eyes
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Do we know how closely the actual gameplay the multiplayer will be to Infinity, excluding the season pass bullshit. Is it gonna be teams competing for highest score or simply one 4-man squadron? Famous boss battles?
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>>569441641
>the series still hasn't caught up to it in the timeline
SOON
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>>569441773
This is true Japs love a grind, still though exciting to get coop and a bigger online focus
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>>569441819
Its a job hazard
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>>569441462
>>569441586
>>569441645
problem is the games seem to play pretty similarly so pretty sure I'd burn out on the series before even reaching 5 if I decide to marathon them all
Also I only have PC but I guess it's ez to emulate the pre 5 ones, I'll think about either trying to marathon the series or watch some mega lore vid before 7...
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>>569441873
seeing how dev timeline for new ac games are like 6 years, AC9 will most likely be around that time, unless they do a prequel
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>>569441868
The only official comment is they will reveal more closer to launch
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Man after all these years I can still hear the radio chatter from Moby Dick Pursuit in my head
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>>569441985
none of the games are very long. at least play 4 yourself.
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>>569441873
>SOON
Maybe in the 2040s we'll get a post-3 entry. I'm convinced the next Ace Combat will be a prequel like Zero, just to rhyme with the PS2 trilogy's progression.
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>>569441985
They're all really short games except for 5
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>>569441985
just play 4 5 Zero and then go to 7
the older ps2 games are like 5-6 hours long each
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>>569442059
>>569442113
A prequel to 3
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>>569442064
LAUNCH NEEMBAWS
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>>569442390
GUNNER GIVE EM STEEL RAIN
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>>569442087
>>569442203
>>569442265
alright thanks for the tips lads what's with 5 BTW why is it a 360 exclusive
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>>569441985
The games aren't long unless you just suck at plane games you can clear them in 3-5 hours
Don't watch a lore vid those can be questionable depending on who you watch. Just go to the AC wiki and read up yourself
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>>569429169
This, it's probably AI tech in Rex's helmet.
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>>569443114
I assume you mean 6, and the general assumption is that bamco/PA thought developing for the 360 was easier at the time compared to dealing with the clusterfuck that was the PS3's hardware
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>>569443114
You mean 6 it was 360 only as MS paid bamco the big bucks for that exclusive right. Its sales weren't very good and never got ported to where 90% of the player base was and would have sold great.
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>>569443385
Oh yeah 6 mb
is it hard to emulate on PC though, last I checked 360 emu was fucky
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>>569429743
Bamco needs a new money pit with Tekken on fire.
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>>569443478
you're in luck
https://github.com/sal063/AC6_recomp
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>>569430303
>A fair number of normies did end up buying AC7
The first two weeks of AC7 muliplayer were legit. The amount of nuggets I bagged, I was eating good.
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>>569443649
damn these recomp projects are rly magic, though looks like it's still a work in progress
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>>569443654
What about it?
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>>569441985
Zero is a four hour game. You're not playing trails
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>>569443478
AC6 emu has supposedly come a long way in recent years (I don't emulate it so idk the specifics) but apart from cutscenes I'm pretty sure it's playable from start to finish, but you still have to navigate xenia which is a chore on its own
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>>569441375
Those dark circles make my dick hard.
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>>569443747
Just smile for the camera
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why do people say to skip the ps1 ones anyway?
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>no SAAM on the F-18C
sparrowbros...
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>>569444001
You can skip 1 I guess but the rest are worth playing specially 3
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>>569431782
>>569431925
One factor is this, they're showing off the campaign. It has been said that by default, in new game, you cannot select anything but carrier aircraft, which many 6th gens aren't. You'll have to NG+ for the ability to pick any runway birds. It could be that the F-35 is the apex for first runs of the campaign.
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>>569444001
I only played it a couple times, but I liked 2 and would recommend it to anyone my age who already liked the series. Even reaching back just to 4 is a big departure in how the planes feel to fly so I could see people not wanting to bother with anything older than that.
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i still want to believe
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>>569435037
>>569433303
>Project Aces teasing rad squad liveries
I demand livery customization for PVP, demand it!
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>>569443482
Money pit was my favorite stage in Soul Calibur
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>>569441375
>>569404354
Girls who do bombing runs and commit war crimes, are very sexy.
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>pc just barely hits the minimum requirements
I hope this thing has a demo
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>>569444516
At least have the logo editor be as good as Armored Core 6 .
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i just want more plens
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>>569444001
2 is awesome but I would only recommend it for someone already fond with the series
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>>569444001
People are crazy I've seen people say that with the reason being I don't like how low poly this looks thus its bad.
The game are very fun the first two are really the home version of an arcade game fun. The 3rd one is still very fun and the first attempt at a real story and world building.

Do not skip the PS1 games play all 3 they are very fun and playing X is a must also.
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>>569405527
Controversial Opinion: Drones aren't cool unless they can shoot out smaller drones.
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>>569431483
>Gyrfalcon F-16 retrofit is the last, most advanced thing, on the tech tree
I would fucking nut, it would be perfect since that's basically your default plane in 3.
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>>569444853
>>569444807
>>569444374
thanks for all the replies lads I'll just try playing from release order and see what happens, I assume 1-2 are short anyways, not a complete stranger to the "genre" as I've already played project wingman a while ago and I don't mind ps1 jank so I'll see what happens
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>>569432701
>>569433024
>Ace Combat finally gets a Ground Effect super weapon
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>569445098
>smaller drone shoots out even smaller drones
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Drone buddy tankers
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>>569441375
Best girl, please don't die
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>>569444526
Based and Italian gimp pilled.
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>>569444001
What? 3 is some incredible kino. And it's gonna be at least a tiny bit relevant in 8.
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>>569445998
sick
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>>569444001
Go play the remake of 2, Assault Horizon Legacy is great.
>>569444807
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>>569431483
ME!!
Gyrfalcon, Eagle++, F/A-18I, NAV Hawk, F/A-32
I want these as high end stuff.
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The sound of the burners lighting up when you hit the thrusters is orgasmic
>gu-SHUNK
https://youtu.be/a7uKjH6e488?si=xG8A8OAq2kwwV9U7&t=380
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>>569445872
Each successive done needs bombay doors for this meme to work nugget.
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>>569424023
Who drew this? I thought it was Yusuke Kozaki since he did AC stuff once and it looks like his work before but the signature doesn't quite line up and now I'm only 80% sure
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>>569446632
That's him, he's the game's character designer
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>>569446632
https://x.com/kymg/status/2062549461008777395
It is Yuzuke Kozaki, he's the character designer for the game.
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>>569446474
Personally I found it lacking and enjoy the original more it felt slower than the original and that proto DFM it has didn't help yeah its not required but the game tries it hardest to get you to use it.
Did enjoy the ace squads however so it has that going for it.
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>>569444001
Do not do this >>569446474
Despite being a remake they are both wildly different experiences and you should at least play 2 first
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I really, really like the missile fire sound
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>>569424023
>Game about assuming a fake identities
>Rex is a talented nugget pretending to be an Ace (until becoming one)
>Tasha is a Yuke air acrobat who gets dragged into a real war
...Could be bait, but not getting the best most trustworthy feeling from our girl here.
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>>569447276
I like how they added a subtle *click* sound, feels like its imitating the sound of Rex pressing the missile release button on his stick
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I was watching more stuff from people who went to the event, apparently it was an 8 hour event and like the dorks PA are, they gave the attendees an actual briefing about the game.
>>569447276
It's so crispy.
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Oh also if the person took a paid sponsorship, they got a flight jacket. Also apparently mission 5 is HUGE spoilers so footage of it is entirely off limits despite thr fact that people got to play it.
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>>569446629
Then picture this
A drone surrounded by small drones that shoot out drones
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>>569427652
>something about a drummer and a bassist dying

I think he's talking about Noise's former wingmen, who got wiped out with the White Valley forces.
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>>569447747
Horrifying, but also real and soon.
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>>569447520
I think that's the missile release click so the missile is dropped, then it fires
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>>569448306
Drown swarm should be an air to ground SPW for Hornet.
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>>569447974
I see, I still haven't watched all the gameplay yet
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So is Sotoa supposed to be Mongolia, Mexico or what
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>>569448582
*Drone
I can't type for nothing right now
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eww like omg gross save me rex lol
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>>569448864
One FAE the entire swarm dies.
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Wild Nostradamus Prediction: Cope is an Ace Combat techno force ghost in the helmet of Rex in some fucking wack GRL tech test as a nod to both 7 and 3.

X-Wings will be the guest planes in 8.
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>>569413525
7 was the end of belkan resentment mannnnn
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>>569448676
I don't even know anymore since the Yuke's are supposed to be Russia/Mongolia but Tasha talks in a Spanish honorifics.
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>>569413525
hopefully none so the unfunny redditors who think countryball memes are still bleeding edge comedy can fuck off
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>>569449227
you mean the start
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>>569448864
Gonna bet the new class of jammer aircraft are gonna be meta for this shit
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>>569449329
While country ball memes are okay with me, I don't like how all the twitter spam about belka back in 2015 made kono actually involve belka with 7. 6 had nothing to do with Belka and neither did X.
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>>569448864
Them introducing like non-weakspot damage for the big birds I think is also meant so you can use your guns to sweep at drone swarms to knock them out
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>>569449565
>While country ball memes are okay with me
fucking why, that shit was stale a decade ago
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>>569449576
MPBM gonna do WORK
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>>569449565
>6 had nothing to do with Belka
iirc the aigaion's engineer was belkan but that might have just been to build it off of hresvelgr
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>>569449384
Belkans famously did nothing wrong until 2019, when they consorted with Eruseans
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Might be because at some level I want to justify my purchase but the ADFX-01/2 is probably the coolest fictional aircraft in the franchise even if the design's a bit generic.
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>>569449565
>6 had nothing to do with Belka
Belkan immigrants post-Belkan War gave the Estovakians information on Hresvelgr, which led to the development of the Aigaion and its support air fleet. One of the Gault members in 0 resurfaces as an ace in 6.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2YvUOODmRw
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>>569450196
>She's called seversky
She's up to something, I do not trust her
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>>569450152
I like it too
It really does nail the aesthetic of an early generation superplane, it's something you might actually have seen in real life but it's already a little out of date
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>>569441657
but is it actually campaign coop though?
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>>569449565
> 6 had nothing to do with Belka
Gault 7 Lorenz Riedel
Estovakian Air Force callsign Feniks
Found on mission 9
>At some point after the Belkan War, Lorenz left the Osean continent and traveled to Estovakia as one of the many "war exiles" expelled from his country. In 2007, he fought in the Estovakian Civil War as part of the Eastern Faction, and supplied Gustav Dvornik with classified Belkan research on heavy command cruiser technology, allowing them to build the P-1112 Aigaion and her escort ships, the former of which would allow them to win the war.

Just because they aren't the main villains doesn't mean they don't have a hand to play in event
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>>569450152
>>569450350
I like that they updated the model to be more detailed
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>>569450152
>even if the design's a bit generic.
u wot
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>>569449565
The vast majority of Belka's involvement with 7 is Young Erusean Officers being idiots using imported Belkan tech without reading the instruction manuals. It's only Schroeder's pet project with Mihaly and his enthralling creatures that went Triple Belkan.
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>>569449565
>twitter spam made kono
what
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>>569449565
>twitter spam about belka back in 2015 made kono actually involve belka with 7
I don't think that's true
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>>569450152
For me its the XFA-27
But how is the ADFX generic? Maybe if we compare it to a FALKEN which is its descendant but I don't see a lot of similar stuff to it in other media or in the real world
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>>569448306
Old school flak is going to be more of a thing again.
There is no magic "lol i win" weapon, not even nukes.
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>opening comms just to shit talk you
Kek
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>>569449565
At this point I want a Belkan protag in the next AC.
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Do you guys also feel a dreamlike aspect to Ace Combat 4? Might be how foggy things get, specially in the cutscenes but there's something charming about it.
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>>569451603
It captures the kind of haze you get from reading or listening about the war, whether it's in letters or granddad's stories, that fuzzy nostalgia that colors the good and bad memories alike
It's definitely part of why I enjoyed it so much, I had a lot of that growing up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVudkZcdI7I
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>>569444001
I played through the series in release order last year and I knew nothing Ace Combat. People that say to skip the PS1 games are little bitches.
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>>569451603
it just pisses me off
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>>569452880
Seems a little excessive
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>>569452880
We got a pisser here boys
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>>569450475
Morgan's bulge... uohhh
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>>569453396
>>569453562
well forgive me for not liking dated ass graphics, AC4 taking 3 fucking hours to complete a single fucking mission isn't helping either.
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>can only use carrier jets in the campaign

Odd choice. I wonder if this means there will be an abundant amount of carrier jets. Carrier planes dont tend to be endgame tier, if i'm correct. What do you guys think the endgame planes will be? Perhaps a XFA-27 update? A fictional F-14 upgrade? Naval F-22? I tend to like carrier planes a bit more than land planes but it still seems weird not to just have some stages where carrier planes are mandatory like AC5. What planes are you guys hoping for?
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>>569454301
Bro got hardstuck on Whiskey Corridor. Same.
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>>569454301
>well forgive me for [reasons that are stupid]
Well, no
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>>569454301
zoom zoom
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>>569454418
>>can only use carrier jets in the campaign
you misheard, you can only use carrier jets in your initial playthrough, every run afterwards lets you use regular air force aircraft too.
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>>569454301
>3 fucking hours to complete a single fucking mission
skill issue
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>>569454418
>can only use carrier jets in the campaign
No, it's like AC5 where some missions are limited to carrier jets.
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>>569454424
>>569454560
is it really skill issue when you spend most of the mission waiting for the time to run out?
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I'm gonna keep my planes grimy as fuck
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>>569454418
Nosferatu is technically a carrier plen, as is the Wyvern
Rafale and F-35 are the carrier variants so they're probably gonna be pretty good
Maybe GR will send us a brand new carrier-based superplane toy to play with too
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>>569454807
Wash your plane
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>>569454807
>>569454931
WASH YO THRUSTERS
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Holy moly, skin selection is a trillion times better this time around. Kono, I fucking kneel...
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>>569454554
Right but the initial playthrough usually has some kind of end game aircraft like the raptor or su37/50. Theres no naval endgame plane thats not a superplane if i recall correctly.
>>569454578
is it only some? i heard it was all of them. Darn I was really hoping that there'd be an excuse for them to make a new tomcat upgrade. I know the XFA-27 was supposed to be that but i'm a bit greedy and its still too different from a tomcat. Also wish theyd make a SU-33 upgrade but i'm just happy that she's making it into another game. I feel like shes kinda underappreciated and overshadowed by other flankers like the SU-37/35.
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>>569404508
>Surprise attack
Again?
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>>569454978
why dont they give us the color edit that they gave us in ass horizon?
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Panther-chan got rid of her luneberg lens
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>>569455283
Cockpit view. Neat detail with the cockpit canopy reflecting the MFD.
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>>569440902
If you didn't play Ace Combat 3, you won't understand literally anything that happens in 4, 5, 7, and 8. Everything about Ace Combat leads to 3 and then to Armored Core 1.
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>>569455514
is that it? the whole forced ray tracing thing? So I can just not go to cockpit mode and my game performance won't tank?
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>>569451342
AA shells cost more than a single drone does.
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>>569454980
You can see land base hangars on the trailer already. And all of the early access missions has you sortie from these hangars.
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>>569454965
White pilots don't wash their thrusters?
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>>569455716
And the potential damage the drone can do costs even more than the shell. They're using ATACMS to shoot them down for fuck's sake.
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>>569455657
>So I can just not go to cockpit mode and my game performance won't tank?
son...
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>>569455117
Probably because they don't want neon eye searing planes, like that one fucking skin in 7.
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>>569456018
this looks pretty eye searing already doe
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>>569455117
so they can sell you those colors, duh
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>>569456018
>he doesn't want to coat his plen in full mirror chrome that kills the performance of anyone it gets near because of all the reflections
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>>569455965
I really don't see anything else in this game needing ray tracing, it's just reflectionshit, no?
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>>569456282
wow i wonder what type of material reflects light in a game about aircraft
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>>569456157
Anon, pls
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>>569456232
God I wish
Chrome is best
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>>569456447
how is Pixy's head not full of radiation at this point?
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>>569456157
Oh McDonald's finally got an air force.
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>>569455657
I expect it’s baked into the cloud and weather engine.
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>>569456157
Well, looks like I have an idea for my PVP squad. Everyone is gonna be a condiment. I pick relish, no one steal this.
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>>569457794
are non-crow birds really that smart? They can aura farm too?
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>>569447731
>mission 5 is HUGE spoilers
I wonder how big of a deal it is, considering that the story you can piece together from the stuff they have shown off is pretty fucking bonkers.
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>>569447731
So everything shown up to now is pre-mission 5? is the goofy land ship an early game boss?
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I've never done PVP in Ace Combat. Is it actually fun or no fun bullshit?
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>>569455848
>You can see land base hangars on the trailer already. And all of the early access missions has you sortie from these hangars.
It's a bit misleading. The early access missions are in Free mode and give the option to be limited to True-to-Campaign planes or to use anything. Where you sortie from changes based on what plane you pick; 7 had the same thing in one or two missions where if you picked a carrier capable craft it launched from that otherwise you took off from a runway.
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>>569458535
Can be fun, extremely easy to decay into no fun bullshit though, all it takes is one asshole.
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>>569458430
the recorded missions are 4, 9, and 11. land battleship is 9 and podarge is 11
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>>569458535
You need a private game with people on the honor system in order to not devolve into a cheese-fest.
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>>569457875
All birds aura farm to some extent. Whatever baby that ace delivering gonna be born with aviators on.
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>>569457948
Yeah I'm wondering the same thing given what we've seen so far is already insane.
>>569459193
Hummingbirds dogfight each other which is really funny.
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>>569458535
7 was lackluster for PvP, jousting is fun but that's all it was. I wanted base raids and PvPvE
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>>569458535
/aceg/ shootouts are reliably a good time because of the house rules.
Public lobbies are a lot more hit or miss, they're fun until somebody decides to pull out the railguns, the Darkstars, the NASCAR QAAMs or the Modern Aerial Combat Experience™.
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>>569427652
>video is private
Fuck, does anyone save it?
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is it october yet
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>>569458535
>Enter lobby
>Everyone else is in a stealth jet using LAAMs
A BVR simulator, in my arcade flight game?
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>>569461054
no
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>>569454980
I, too, hope for the st-21 buddy. With sm-6 on the wing pylons and smart bombs and either aim-120s or 260s between the engines. But I know this sounds too good to be true.
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Pre-order chads should be able to download Zero right the fuck now. It's twenty years old, there would be no harm letting us wet our beaks.
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>>569461552
The ritual...
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>>569461552
forgot link https://www.4gamer.net/games/969/G096901/20260605006/
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>>569461602
Just emulate it faggot. You can wait until september for your shiny achievements.
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Assuming your entire plane wishlist is in 8, are you going to use a mixed squadron of different planes or is everyone going to fly the same jet?
Who gets what plane?
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>>569461845
I don't like looking at the square explosions, they ruin it for me.
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>>569461602
they'll probably let us download it soon..They released 5 on ps4 long before launch
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>>569461935
I need at least 1, maybe 2 EW planes as it seems EW is gone and it has been replaced by ESM and ECM.
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>>569461935
i'd like to put noise on dedicated ecm duty, but i'll probably roll into the final mission with everyone in the same plane
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>>569461935
Everyone in the starter legacy hornet and me in whatever plane I just unlocked and wasted all my money on
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when AC8 comes out, I'm gonna host a multiplayer lobby where we all agree to use the same plane and we only use blind-fired RCLs to try to hit each other (assuming they're still in the game)
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>>569462075
*IEWS
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there eventually better be some fucking top-shelf hydrafxx tier r34 of the characters or I'm going to be sorely disappointed
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>>569461935
Since 8 all about Rex, I will be artistically compelled to use the Tomcat.
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Surely it's kind of awkward to make your squad members take two/four-seaters
To say nothing of making Chopper fly one
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>>569462401
Can't even get decent Avril coochie while every obscure gacha bint gets ten thousand pieces.
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>>569461935
Everybody would be flying Hawks just like in AC5. I wonder what memeplen we'll get in 8, but the F-16 apparently has QAAMs now so that alone makes me happy.

>>569461957
Square explosions have been fixed for years at this point, try updating your PCSX2.

>>569462145
>noise gets to shoot music
Pottery.
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>>569461935
I will relegate Noise to permanent jammer status.
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I'm going to be fucking pissed if none of the ACX units made it in this game, it's not like the game is badly received either and most avid fans know about them.
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>>569461935
Is it racist to keep Tasha in nothing but Rus planes?
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>>569461006
There's another video
https://youtu.be/XCr9b08CJR8?si=HeZqZvxt1UAApiSj
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>>569462830
Nobody should be subjected to such torture, not even russians themselves.
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>>569462830
what if that's where she feels most comfortable?
you actually be doing her a kindness.
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>>569462830
Just as long as you don't put Professor in just black planes I guess
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>>569462830
would be funny if she had a secret passive that made her perform better on russian crafts
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>>569454301
I was just joking around you sound insufferable.
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>>569462830
She was a Hornet pilot
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I need a full rip of that Shadow Team theme ASAP.
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>>569461801
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>>569463409
You and me both pal.
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TASHA GET OUT OF THE JET AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK
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>>569463076
>professor in only black planes
>tasha in only russian planes
>noise in only eaw planes
I know what my meme roster is going to be for the inevitable gun run.
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The only track I like so far is at 6:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcphpBvdt28
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>>569461935
Grumman buddies all the way through.
>mostly aa
3 cats and a prowler
>mostly ag
bombcats a tadpole and a prowler
Then if it's possible, do a douglas brothers campaign with phantoms and skyhawks
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>>569463627
(You) in uh? F14?
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so only 2 attackers? I think it's time to bring Adler into this universe, at least give us a superplane attacker for once.
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Do you guys think this game will run on Win10 gtx 1660 ti on lowest setting on 30 fps? I think I make a mistake purchasing it last month to replace my outdated gt 1030...
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>>569464267
I doubt it will run, much less at 30.
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>>569463564
>SU-25SM
Oh shit new variant. The other times the Frogfoot showed up it was the original production model and the TM. Although the model in 2 was a two seater. Awesome man, I hope it's as fun as the Frogfoot in PW is. Seeing this gives me hope we'll see things like the Stealth Eagle or something.
>>569464248
See >>569461801 and >>569463564
So far we have at least five
>A-10
>SU-34
>SU-25SN
>A-10
>A-6E
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>>569464267
i'm not familiar with that card but ray tracing is required
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>>569464437
5 out of how many? Do we have the numbers yet?
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>>569464523
Everything I've seen has said 30 planes, with 4 plane types. EW planes are their own dedicated type now.
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>>569464267
>Win 10
Son I think it's time to upgrade
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>>569464267
Not gonna make it
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>>569464441
why would game devs still fall for mandatory ray tracing gimmick? I'll wait until someone posting benchmark of it on youtube once it released
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>>569464934
Game is in development way before the AI bullshit, probably way too late to backpedal when the trend started.
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>>569464647
>EW planes are their own dedicated type now.
Oh that's interesting, usually they were multiroles or whatever, and the EW depended on you picking an EW special weapon. I guess they'll feature more in pvp?
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>>569464437
Oh that's righr the F-2 is in game so it's 6 out of 30 for Attackers.
>>569465654
In multiplayer and campaign. Some videos by people who played at the event said they found making your squadron into EM slaves was really effective.
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>>569454931
It's called AURA bro
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>>569431976
Is that white circle like logo the one from the Enso Order coorporation? Doesn't that look like an Ouroboros snake kinda?
Is it related to the Ouroboros from 3?
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>>569467394
Looks more like they're referencing the Ulysses disaster to me.
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>>569467394
I don't know how they'll connect to Ouroboros but they are pretty sus making weapons for both sides. And they have their own special zone in Theve too.
It's also the name of the official website of 8
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>>569467394
>Is that white circle like logo the one from the Enso Order coorporation? Doesn't that look like an Ouroboros snake kinda?
It is, and yeah it does. I wouldn't be surprised if it tied into 3, and my personal pie in the sky theory is that Enso is based in or heavily involved with space. The "Enso Special Zone" might be where they bridge down to Earth a la a reverse space elevator, the dots outside the circle look suspiciously like a a planet and its moon, the release date announcement trailer showed a space shuttle docking with some sort of friendly satellite, and we know from the destruction system patent that Project Aces had desires to set something in orbit. Space is looking like it plays a big part in 8.
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>traitor on board
>squads defecting
Were definitely fighting Cope by the end aren't we?
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>>569468431
>fighting our schizophrenia demon

yeah im thinking the oxygen deprivation did a number on us
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>>569468431
>Cope
what? we're fighting in our head?
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All this online mode talk and no mention of co-op campaign yet.
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>>569468497
ENTERING ELECTROSPHERE
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>>569468592
>cross-platform
ac7 didn't have that i don't think? or am i misremembering
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>>569468484
Would be really funny if Cope was actually alive and talking to us through nanomachines in our head or something
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>>569468592
>All this online mode talk
dude, we barely talk about online outside of the deluxe edition battlepass
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>>569468431
>cope, as a proto-sublimation ai ghost, has been leaking intel from the endurance to the sotoans
>it's all to draw enemies to you and you to enemies, in order to make the legend real
>he hijacks the sotoan superplane at the end so you can put to rest the one thing standing between you and being the real wings of theve
the skies belong to you, rex. go take what's yours.
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>>569468592
i wouldn't get my hopes up if i were you, it's probably counting infinity-style raid bosses as "co-op"
i would, of course, love to be proven wrong though
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For those complaining about the landship being stupid cause it wouldn't be able to cross certain terrain, that's literally addressed in the mission, it's secondary tracks allow it to elevate slightly to clear obstacles (you can see them 'walking' in the trailer), that's why you knock them out before dropping buildings in its path and why it takes a predictable route through the city...
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>>569468647
Nope, AC7 did not have cross platform. I don't expect details like this about MP to come up until near launch but with all the talk about wingmen I was curious no one asked in these interviews if you could invite friends to play as your wingmen instead.
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>>569468942
"stupid because it wouldn't work" is literally every superweapon in the series, anyone saying that in the first place is retarded
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>>569468942
Ok but how is Belka involved with Sotoa?
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>>569468942
Plot twist: it can launch itself with rockets, temporarily lifting it up to clear itself from the rubble.

I kinda warmed up with the idea desu. Think of it like a kaiju fucking up the city.
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>>569469079
Why not just a giant robot at this point?
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>>569469048
the same way they are involved with Estovakia?
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>>569469048
Image unrelated, I'm Belkan at heart, long live Belka
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>>569405271
Well Anon he literally just told you it's UE5.
It's far more likely it will run like dogshit than run well, especially on a 3060 and especially if it's like Indiana Jones where Raytracing is forced. I wish you the best, though. At the very least UE5 is so glaringly obviously considered to run like shit by most people while also having widely understood engine parameters and shit that we always have tons of "ULTIMATE ENGINE TWEAK FOR MAX PERFORMANCE" mods with each one to help.
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>>569464267
>upgrading to a 1660 in the year of our lord 2026
bruh
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any news about a linux release?
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I think it's hilarious that massive rolling fortresses are impractical IRL because they're vulnerable to air attacks, but the air attack game decided actually they sound like a good idea. It's peak.
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>>569469854
it can fly + cold fusion powered energy shield
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>>569469229
I'm sure they'd do that sometime in the future.
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>>569470024
soon...
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Callsign for AWACS is "Dealer"
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>>569469854
that's why they brought multiple land aegis ships with them (not that they helped much)
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>>569469782
If it's anything like AC7 it should run fine on Proton. Unless they package it with denuvo (like 7 until apr 2021) or some retarded KAC
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>>569470264
october*, misremembered
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>>569469854
You'll have to wait for the last mission prototype version that counters you by digging underground
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>>569470115
Technically they did in 3 with the Ant Lion tanks.
>>569470205
I like him already, he seems like a fucking dork bringing up game theory in the middle of a battle. Kinda reminds me of Eugene from X in how he's at wit's end with the war going poorly.
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>>569464437
wait, is Nighthawk not in the game? again?
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>>569470245
>aegis ships
>aegis ashore
>aegis landships
They're evolving. What's next, airborne aegis?
Oh right.
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>>569471061
aegis gundam of course
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Fh3QKlnlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tNg2AbrJg
Close enough, welcome back Tarakian Unidentified Weapon.
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>>569471212
why do the nips call it Desmogami? What does that even mean?
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>>569470024
Can you really call it a Battleship at this point?
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>>569470949
Nope. Seems it was snubbed again, at least for now. We still haven't seen the entire plane roster yet. Harriers exist in game but whether they're playable or not remains to be seen.
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>>569471359
why the sudden hatred towards the thing anyway? Why is it reduced to a punchbag?
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>>569471357
it can go on water
and it does battle
logic is sound to me
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>>569471434
It might be a bit of plane autism as even by Ace Combat standards the Nighthawk has always been protrayed wrong in every game. They also may not be able to get real world scans of them nowadays because for some reason the US government keeps information about them classified to this day.
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>>569471292
Because it has this weird mast that's similar to the one on the Mogami and the fact that it's armed with big fuck off railguns, hence Death Mogami.
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>>569472074
oh Mogami is a ship name, that makes sense now.
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sotoa is israel btw
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>>569471357
its a ship for battle, therefore a battleship
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Can somebody post the unofficial glamrock patch please?

>>569426749
>>569433303
You're welcome. Font appears to be superclarendon bold, 110% width for anyone interested

>>569454978
>>569456157
It's nice to have options, but I'm not sure how I feel about this system... a lot of generic skin variations and it looks like a pain in the ass to skinmod
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>>569472394
>a lot of generic skin variations and it looks like a pain in the ass to skinmod
keep in mind that you can still unlock enemy ace skins and that one of the biggest complaints about 7 was how few variations of generic schemes there were

my only worry is if the marking customization is still limited to single emblems
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>>569472508
fair enough
>my only worry is if the marking customization is still limited to single emblems
Judging by the pre-order bonuses, I'm afraid this will be the case
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>>569469854
They made it so obnoxiously big that air-launched munitions are barely effective against it. Hell of a solution.
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Dont think anyone has pointed it out yet, but chaff and flares all eject from their proper dispenser points on aircraft now.
https://youtu.be/OaDCVQ7P8nI?t=419&si=CYfpR80WTrDmn78X
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>>569472394
That really is a sickass emblem
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>>569472508
>>569472732
Having multiple emblems was like the one good thing JA did and they've never done it since. I should be able to have a roundel and a normal emblem at least.
>>569473029
Yeah it is. Shame that squadron appears to be have been wiped out though.
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>>569473132
I rocked Skeleton Squadron's emblem too
Maybe putting a skeleton in your emblem in Strangereal is like calling your ship the Titanic, it's just a guaranteed jinx
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>>569465869
>said they found making your squadron into EM slaves was really effective.
from what ive heard from the jewtubers invited out to california to play, its basically like having enchanter squadron from ac7 dlc mission 1 but they're actually glued to your ass instead of doing a slow loop in a predetermined area
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>>569473337
That's what it sounded like to me, yeah. It'd be funny to put them all in Prowlers.
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>Resource rich
>High population
>Caught in the machinations between two great powers
>Goes to war every five minutes
>Consistently bites the hand that feeds them
Usea is Strangereal Africa
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Need for Speed Unbound had 8 season passes for every season with new cars to get and afterwards, when the season ends, you can buy "catch up packs" do get all the contents from the previous season passes.


I imagine Bamco would do something similar, because it would make them more money rather than locking away every new planes forever if you didn't manage to unlock them
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>>569473629
>I imagine Bamco would do something similar, because it would make them more money rather than locking away every new planes forever if you didn't manage to unlock them
it also feels like it would be hard to get normgroids to engage in fomo over scifiplanes from 20 year old ps2 titles, that shit barely works when it comes to actual mass entertainment slop like cod

letting people purchase access to planes released in the battlepass after the season ends seems like it would reduce resentment from the core fanbase
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>>569472394
should say 43rd flight, not 43th flight
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Gunpod Phantom
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>>569473996
Noice.
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>>569473831
Good catch thanks
I'm retarded FUCK, japs speak better english than me
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>>569473996
flying my shitbox F4 in vietnam camo colours to every mission without washing it and while mocking Sotoans
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>>569474229
No worries buddy, good work
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Check out the refraction of the fuselage through the cockpit canopy. Also more drop tanks, this time for the Charlie Eagle.
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I don't like how the UGBs are still doing that thing where they literally launch off the rails at supersonic speeds.
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i really hope 2.5 inch ssds are going to cut it and that i wont need to get a 512gb m.2 for fucking $200
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Mission to bomb enemy AI data centres when
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>>569475016
The space elevator was basically one giant datacenter in 7, maybe that's why it's getting blown up.
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>>569451603
When you play it on a CRT, the way the highlights in the sky blow out, and the overall coloration of the game (even from mission to mission) really makes it all look like combat footage.
You can emulate some of that with some of the more complex filters/shaders available, and doubly so if you've got a decent HDR monitor.
For some reason, 5 and Zero never induced that effect on me (again, on my specific TV back then).
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The motif heard in the release date trailer and in the Shadows squadron theme is nice,
but the way it's rendered in the latter is a bit close to 2010s Stomp Clap Woaaahhh music for me. Not quite, but close.
Ladies singing their hearts out always get me - a 'cheat code' to my heart.
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UAV made with 3D Printer?
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>>569477062
We Gran Turismo now.
>>569477303
Those'll probbaly be real before too long now. You can already make a suicide drone in a shed.
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>>569477559
Is the Landship 3D Printer supposed to be materialless magic printer or what? You can't just print a billion of drones from nothing.
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>>569477678
Its stated in the mission that it requires raw resources and they may be low due to purple magic throwing themselves at it in the previous battle
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>>569477678
No they explicitly mention that its printing materials are low but it has enough to print off a few more drone swarms, which is one of the reasons they have to stop it before it gets to the neutral zone.
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>>569477678
It probably rolls over enough material to make stuff
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>>569477559
Gran Autismo -> Autist Combat
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>Armored Core 6 with Ayre
>Now Ace Combat 8 with Cope
What's with the disembodied voice character talking inside your head trope?
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>>569468691
Truly Metal Gear but planes
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>>569480876
how old is Rex anyway? Around the same age as Tasha heightwise?
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>>569481154
I know people have talked about player choices resulting in character deaths
But who the fuck isn't going to save Tasha
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>We're receiving aid from Osea, but due to the current circumstances they cannot intervene directly.
>Our maintenance issues are mounting
>The Princess has made some calls, and an old friend of hers will be joining us aboard the Endurance to get our aircraft up to scratch
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>>569481278
me
i'm sacrificing myself
the negro and the w*man WILL make it out alive
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>>569481404
>They call her the Scrap Mom now because she's had five kids with Trigger but now she's carrying your sorry asses for some reason
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>>569481574
>BF2042 makes Irish surviving and Hannah dying the canon choice instead of just third optioning it and making the faceless voiceless loser Recker do the sacrificial play
>Hannah turns out to still be kicking anyway but this is only revealed at the very end of the game's life
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>>569481615
>Scrap Cougar, irresistibly stinky.
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>>569481154
>>569480876
>the Republic of Sotoa, is a nation located in the western region of the Verusan continent, located southwest of Yuktobania.
>Main antagonist nation conveniently neighbors the Yukes
I'm watching this chick's every move.
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>>569404354
So this is the last game before the mega-corps take over the world.
Hopefully we get some prototype planes from each in this game.
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>>569462401
>90% is going to be Tasha
>70% of that is going to be blacked porn with Teach
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>>569482331
Its bait to think that Tasha will be the leak cause Yuke, pinky will be loyal
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>>569482963
>Little Bee is ignored and therefore protected
Excellent, SHE'S MINE
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Are they gonna be skipping, retconning or rebooting electrosphere?
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>>569483154
Text your vote to 03030,
SKIP,
RTCN,
or REBT
to 03030!
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>>569483025
Both her and Noise are bait, it will be Baxter, who fakes his own death. He already has friends among the enemy.
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>>569482963
damn that's disheartening
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>>569483154
If it were relevant at all, 3 would be getting the PS5 treatment, not Zero. 5 got the port with 7's pre-order because Nagase shows up at the end of the game. So clearly something from Zero is going to be stinger in 8.
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>>569483154
i want for it to be retconned because i never played it
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>>569423208
SOOOOOOOUUUUUUULLLLL
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>>569424703
i love cosette, i NEED more of her
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So do the others even care that Cope is dead? Do we at least see the others deal with his death?
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>>569483528
Japs will be cheeky about it. The Japanese version, with all the important story bits, will be the one retconned, but the butchered Western version without any story at all will be the one Project Aces uses going forward. This way, nothing about the story in 3 about the future will matter and they can just shrug it all off and do whatever they want next.
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professor's design is so weird, his head looks so fucking square it's jarring
too bad cause he seems like a cool guy
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>>569483753
The Professor and Little Bee would care, and maybe Noise, but he was in a different flight element with its own deaths to death with.
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>>569483874
I want him to be autisitc as fuck. Just on comms nonstop giving technical info about planes and ground units you fight.
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What are the chances Queen Flight also defects and we have to put them in the ground?
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>>569483440
>So clearly something from Zero is going to be stinger in 8
Big if true
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>>569483134
Literally Queen
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>>569483995
he autistim yaps in one of the missions so you get your wish buddy
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>>569483154
I honestly kinda just want it to be retconned and pushed further away in the future.
You technically don't see the real world in AC3, so there's a part of me that hopes they'll leverage that so that we don't suddenly go from basically real world technologies to whole fleets of UFOs that got developed in a day.
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>>569483440
3 is basically impossible to rerelease with the gimped localization, even if they wanted to
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>>569484039
If you don't help them enough, maybe they'll defect
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Does Osea have energy weapon tech tightly controlled real lack of lasers and railguns on these early and mid game planes
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>>569483154
i honestly hope it gets retconned, the story wasn't all that, it doesn't justify hitting a dead end for the setting but they'll probably go with it since martha was mentioned in AC7 (even though the localization fucked it up and called her massa)
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>>569484282
As much as I hope choices matter. They probably won't do much outside of small mission events or give special dialogue, but that's it.
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>>569482331
Honestly I'd wager that Sotoa doesn't like the Yukes all too much.
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>>569484039
I can see a choice of helping Queen or some vital thing to stay on mission that gets someone else killed.
>>569484082
Pixy won't show up. It will be something stupid like JP survived and he's relevant somehow like a relative of someone else Rex or Tasha knows. In mission 11, Tasha already talks about the fact that her mother is dead and was a Yuke ace.
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>>569484381
The Lighthouse War fucked over a ton of satellite infrastructure so maybe targeting for some of the nastier energy weapons got fucked.
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>>569484652
They don't. Part of 8's backstory is that Sotoa and the Yuke's got into a boarder scuffle prior to the game's opening. Sotoa got its ass kicked therein, so maybe that's what prompts them to go all in on being a military dictatorship.
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You know, come to think of it, it might've taken a superweapon to clean up the atmosphere of all that debris
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>>569484980
>You will never be a reactivated Stonehenge operator who spends their time with some office chums and coffee from behind a screen, vaporizing debris still in orbit all day
Why even live?
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>>569484980
So what are we thinking, drones? Some gravity well bullshit? A massive fuckoff laser?
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>>569483154
The in-mission choices will effect the ending of the game, one of the endings will lead to the AC3 universe. AC3 will be its own sub-canon.
Screenshot this
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>>569484381
FCU is in shambles during the early game, we/Wings of Theve exist literally as a psyop against our own people trying to force the Usean myth of a heroic ace saving the nation in its darkest hour. We're so brokedick that we live on a fucking Yorktown in 2029.

Might also be hidden to prevent spoilers, like how Mission 9 apparently ends shortly for the early access players because it would spoil things.
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>>569484835
There wasn't a right lot of StS DEWs even before then. Off the top of my head, only the Arkbird displayed that kind of capability.
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>>569484084
I wonder where her scars are/ what they look like
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>>569485354
If FCU it totally fucked outside one aircraft carrier, it makes me wonder what happened to Scarface Squadron and Phoenix. Surely the dude is retired by then but he can't be happy.
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>>569485428
It must really, really, be rad as fuck to be in the business of ocean salvage in the AC universe.
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>Squadmates call out the specific model of aircraft you down
That's awesome
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>>569485776
What year is Ace Combat 2 set in, anyway?
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>>569486139
Lessons learned from AC7 DLC I suppose.
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>>569486268
1995, technically Zero takes place before the Scully Island incident.
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Shootouts are gonna be fun in October.
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>>569481154
do white girls like this exist in real life
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>>569488616
My Phantom II is gonna wrack up many kills from nuggets who disrespect its old ass.
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Will I be able to put anime girl decals on my plane in singleplayer too?
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>>569489779
After you finish the campaign
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really hope the multiplayer as a PVE infinity like mode
>LAND BATTLESHIP BATTLE IV
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I'm gonna be honest, I am a bit worried about the performance, I watched this video
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaDCVQ7P8nI
And according to him the game dipped below 60fps at certain times on a PC with a 5080, 32GB DDR5 RAM and an Ultra 7 265F. Combine with the fact that in the minimum specs on the steam page it says the expected performace at UPSCALED 1080p is 30fps, and that they mention it can go below that, and I think this might be another case of an UE5 game with less than ideal performance.
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Did anyone notice the Morgan TLS destroying an enemy in one hit in the deluxe edition trailer? I guess we're back to the super weapons being over powered?
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>>569490792
grim, i do hope PA releases the day 1 performance patch on day 0 instead
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>>569490792
Oh come the fuck on, so what? all we 3060ers should just refund the game?
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>>569491054
Considering they have all this feedback already, they should be doing performance patches right now
October is still 4 months away, they've got time
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>>569490368
>Hunt for the Alicorn IV
>Gleipnir Pursuit IV
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>>569490978
The new subsidiary damage system should unironically make the TLS fucking lit. Same goes for sick pickling moves on flying bosses and the cluster missiles.
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>>569491439
I would LOVE it if multiplayer was just a greatest hits set of missions from the series. I miss ACEX.
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>>569491520
If the TLS is a one hit kill again, is there a chance it will be re-balanced for multiplayer? Because that is how it should've been in AC7. Instead they turned it into a fucking laser pointer that couldn't damage anything.

Having the TLS be the wrath of God in campaign, but slightly weaker in MP for balancing purposes seems like a fair compromise.
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>>569491818
My problem with the plane part system has always been that it gives the devs an excuse to weaken munitions, because the player can always equip the parts that make things stronger, It's a really shitty conceit in game design.
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>>569490368
It's the best way to tell key events from previous games for normies that dont emulate, so yeah, i can see it happening, at some point.
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A TWENTY-FIVE HOUR LONG CAMPAIGN?
5 has 27 levels and you can beat it in 10 hours even while watching cutscenes. How big is this game going to be?
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>>569492114
10 hours of unskippable cutscenes, MGS4 style
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>>569490792
Lately AAA games such as Doom TDA, Borderlands 4 and Code Vein 2 flopped on PC due to bad optimization issue. Bamco really should be worried about this. People are losing patience with having to buy $70 for a game only to have laggy performance on their PC.
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>>569492114
The real question is how much of that is cutscenes. One of the early access players mentioned that there's like 30 min of intro before you actually play the game, and one complaint about the heavy story focus was that (specifically in mission 9) there was a lot of waiting around for dialogue to play out/waiting for the mission clock to advance before the next targets popped up..
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>>569491643
This is all it needs to be good. Even better if they copy the helldivers Galactic war or battlefront galactic conquest mechanics but set it in strangereal
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>>569490792
He mentions in the comments the game was running at 4k
If it was native res 4k then it's actually pretty good performance, if it was upscaled 4k it's rather fucked
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>>569492369
>30 min of intro before you actually play the game
Of all videogame series I never expected AC to fal into that pit of cancer.
If I want to watch a movie I'll go watch a movie. A fucking half hour cutscene is never acceptable in a videogame.
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>>569492369
>had to watch 30 min intro before I can test if my PC can even survive this shit
Can I even refund at that point?
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How do we feel about most nuggets likely coming from Max0r videos? Are they better or worse than those that come for the Yuke e-girl?
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>>569493874
Cant we at least skip shit?
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>>569493589
There is absolutely no way it's native 4k, they use upscaling every single time, and given they're trying to get the best impression they are probably using upscaling to make it look like 4k but still trying to get the best performance. Since they also mentioned upscaled 1080p I'm the minimum specs section on the Steam page I wouldn't be surprised if they expected you to always play it upscaled no matter what.
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>>569493995
usually when a cutscene is long I'd just chalk it up as unskippable, so 50/50 in this case.
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>>569493874
You could probably pirate it if you just wanna test the performance.
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>>569494142
I already preordered it...
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>>569494226
You already paid the retard tax then, too bad.
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>>569494226
NEVER PREORDER SHIT NIGGER
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><<yo,buddy still alive ?>>
><<ready to do it all again in widescreen ?>>
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>>569494064
>30 minute unskippable cutscene
i don't understand what kind of fart-sniffing pretentious cunt thinks his writing or directing on a videogame are elite enough to force a player to sit through that
i'm here to fly planes and blow shit up not to watch your fucking movie
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>>569494489
<< Borderless? >>
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>>569494404
>>569494350
look, Ace combat is a priority for me so there's no way around it. I just don't like the fact that I was promised that the minimum requirement is 2060, I didn't expect it actually need a fucking 4080 for the game to just be 'playable'.
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>>569494489
I hope it comes with achievements. Did the AC5 port come with them?
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>>569494773
How did you conclude, after all that noise,
that you "actually need a fucking 4080 for the game to just be 'playable'"? Do you even game at 4K? Do you have a CPU that is near or better than a 5800X3D (the SKU that an Ultra 7 265K trades blows with)?
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>>569494773
What the fuck are you talking about? Did you expect the minimum requirements to run at 60 FPS at 4K and max graphics?
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>>569494773
If it's such a priority that you can justify preordering it before you're even sure if it will run well, then you can justify spending 300+ bucks on a new GPU.
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>>569494773
ace combat is cool i get it, hell i even considered purchasing the game, but corpos only understand one thing, the stick, and beatings will continue until games can run with reasonable hardware
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>>569494995
I dunno, just hearing that even a high end PC is barely getting 60 FPS sounds like the game is unoptimized, like most games nowadays I guess.
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Why does the runway matter so much anyway? I don't want my fav crafts to be locked to only a few missions.
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>>569493883
I don't judge people, but I dislike max0r's videos for being an unfunny assault on your senses distilled from the most recognisable memes of a given franchise.
>>569494773
"Minimum requirement" likely means "still looks good while running stably". That 2060 will run the game.
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>>569483154
Reboot because how the fuck is Cohen going to convince the factions that Nemo is totally a fleshbag pilot and not AI sloppa?
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>Unreal Engine 5 game
>Runs like shit
Color me surprised
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>>569490792
I'd wager the game's just about complete by now, so they've got a solid four months to optimise the bastard.
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>>569495352
oh well, I guess I can keep it for now. Surely a 3060 can survive.
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>>569495492
Terminator Infiltrator unit. Alternatively, brain chip with Nemo on it that overwrites the host.
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>>569494773
Minimum requirements means console performance. 1080p on low settings and probably not even targeting 60 fps. You should know that by now
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How long did it take for 7 to go on sale for the first time?
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>>569494404
Stfu Sotoan poorfag, I'll preorder what i want, isn't my fault your personal economy is in the bin cause you built landships
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>>569495901
It's targeting 30fps actually.
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>>569495095
What's so unreasonable about expecting people to have a GPU that's not more than 8 years old?
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Is it time to get all our old infinity buddies back? Do they still exist in these threads still?
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Which Vtuber do you want to see get into Ace Combat
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>>569496147
>REQUIRES an RTX-capable card
Christ.
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>>569496285
All of em
Let it be the next gen version of the idolmaster planes
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>>569496147
>8GB VRAM card can barely reach 30 fps at upscaled 1080p
Gaming, has changed...
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>>569496421
So you need an AMD card from the last 6 years or an Nvidia one from the last 8. That's like the length of a full console generation. Pretty sure AC7 couldn't run on Fermi cards either.
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>>569496421
Not RTX, but "hardware raytracing" via DX12 (Ultimate) DXR.
So including and everything after what was listed there.
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>>569496147
>>569490792
can a nuclear reactor even run this game smoothly at this point? Holy fuck.
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Played the AC7 VR missions (the mod that ports them in flat screen to PC) and holy shit, is it just a skill issue or is this actually tough as shit? It was a struggle to get through just on normal, I can't even imagine trying to ace this in VR
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>>569496285
Only the manliest ones
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>>569496646
>Pretty sure AC7 couldn't run on Fermi cards either.
It does, actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEE8bHv_-LQ
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>>569496939
Bau Bau!
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>>569470024
Bolos in my AC universe?
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>>569496636
The 2060 is 6GB thoughverbeit.
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>>569496147
Pretty debatable whether that even counts as playable, it's PS3 resolution and a framerate no AC game has targeted ever
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>>569494773
Like most UE5 games it's gonna be ok on a 3060ti I'm pretty confident of this.
>>569490792
again I wouldn't worry too much. The event is likely running retarded max settings. It's gonna be fine on medium/high 1440p.
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>>569498893
Honestly the only game that made me less confident is MGS Delta, that game lagged on my PC on bigger maps.
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>>569500429
>AC8 maps are all big
Anon, it might be over
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>>569500787
honestly it's just when its loading the map, after that it's okay, it's 3060 6 GB if that matters
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It doesn't even look all that much better than AC7 outside of higher fidelity plane models
It's like the current theme of the videogame industry. Almost nothing looks substantially better than games did a generation ago, yet everything runs like ass on any hardware except a fucking xx90.
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>>569497356
Alright, fair enough. So both AC7 and AC8 run on 8 year old midrange(xx60) hardware as an absolute minimum. Guess AC8 is a bit worse for AMD users because of the hardware RT requirement which AMD only got 6 years ago.
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>rerelease is an exclusive again
Thank FUCK for emulation.
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>>569490978
>I guess we're back to the super weapons being over powered?
More like *SUPER* weapons aren't underpowered anymore. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.
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>>569456723
Small price to pay for a world without borders
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With the Zero port. Do we finally get higher quality Pixy images now?
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>>569502589
Aw but the blurriness is part of the charm
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>>569502589
I assume they have relatively uncompressed versions of the FMVs somewhere, especially since the promotional image version of the backgrounds are much clearer. Guess we'll see.
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>>569501787
it's on every platform, unless you mean exclusive to preorders
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>trying to 100% Project Wingman
>have to complete all mission on easy mode
>try it on free missions: fail
>restart the campaign: fail
do I seriously need to restart all progress to get the achievement or is it a bug?
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>>569503331
yeah gonna be like the command and conquer remastered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM8F4BHxgrc
tought in their case they had to do with already compressed stuff cause they only were able to find whatever EA still had in their archive
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>>569505267
There was talk about some bugged achievements a while back.
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>>569501127
>It doesn't even look all that much better than AC7 outside of higher fidelity plane models
i dont know how you can watch any of the multiple videos of 8 and think it isnt a huge step up graphics and interactivity-wise over 7
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>>569473132
I'm not sure it has been wiped out. Check the first trailer, the drummer and the bassist are alive.
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><<CALLING ALL LANDING FORCE UNITS>>
><<ABOVE YOU FLIES THE WINGS OF THEVE>>
><<NO HARM WILL COME TO YOU>>
God I fucking love missions like this, because despite there being no gameplay incentive to try harder, I already know I'm gonna be gunning it harder than usual.
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The sound design is looking better than the visual stuff.afterburners kicking in, the way missiles click on before they fire off the racks, the sonic booms, very cool.
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>>569511347
They fucked up the gun sound though. Some Top Gun bullshit.
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>>569501127
You may need glasses buddy
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>>569511515
I didnt watch the gameplay but are you really telling me they are using stock 50 cal sounds for the gun?
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>>569511515
https://youtu.be/eSNT1-AL-Pw?si=8JWusC8BxGUgaWaa&t=265
Sounds just like AC7's Vulcan tho
>>569511652
Game will undeniably run heavy, but denying it isnt in service of a big step up graphix-wise is just sour grapes imo
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>>569511848
what is it about volumetric clouds that makes them so hard to look good? i mean these don't look bad at all, very cool and fluffy and give you a sense of depth and scale, but you can still clearly see how grainy and low res they are
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>>569512103
I disagree, these are not "grainy and low res"
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>>569512396
maybe it's just the image compression
also i think i meant noise instead of grain
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>>569512526
AFAIK demo players were talking about a noise filter of some kind
Hopefully it's a graphical option or possible to mod out.
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I'm just hoping there's a lot less grain than AC7 had.
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>>569513503
>Whole game has a noise filter
>Can hear cope the entire time
We're an AI aren't we
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https://x.com/yamags/status/2062901603393552784
Not a lot of people talk about how all the leads at PA are huge into scale model building. This guy is the art director and shows off his builds, Kono blogs about how his employees leave Scale Aviation issues on his desk every month, etc. Probably why the texturework in AC games are always so topnotch.
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>>569498371
pretty sure 6 and infinity were not 1080p/60
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>>569505267
achievements are bugged
don't bother
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The JP dub sounds a lot better tbqhf
JP Tasha's ~kimochiwaruiiii~ when she sees the droneswarm is too moe...
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>>569516867
That's why you switch up audio tracks on different playthroughs.
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>Tests RE4 Ray Tracing
>had to turn off the entire graphics settings to at least let the card breathe
I don't think my 3060 mobile going to like AC8? or at least I'm not getting pretty graphics like this?
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can I just have the game, like, right now
it's literally the only upcoming game i'm interested in, not counting shit that's still years away like the bitcher 4
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>>569517129
Replaying the entirety of the AC franchise in the meantime. It's a long agonizing wait
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Any cockpit gameplay? It pissed me off so bad when they never got the cannon muzzle flash working in first person in 7
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>>569517112
Its going to hate it, 8 has forced ray tracing.
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>>569516867
Biggest selling point seems to be TsudaKen homoerotically whispering into your ear for the entire game
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>>569517876
also debra wilson's acting feels a little too forced on the aggro alpha female boss lady side of things
her jp counterpart feels a lot more calm and measured
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>>569517876
If we're taking the ASMR Combat route I'd rather listen to a woman.
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>>569517571
i already replied the PS2 games, 7 and X a while ago
maybe it's time to check out that 6 PC port people are jerking off to
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>>569494489

Is the widescreen on the PS2 version just cropped? Also does anyone know if there is a way to get rid of those upscaling artifacts in the menus on PCSX2 or is that just the price for HD.
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>>569517865
well I heard AC8 has DLSS? Maybe I can use it to soften the blow, RE4 has no DLSS to help the card so that could be the solution.
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>>569518080
Either that or the infinity revival
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>>569518038
It always is
Another reason to use jp dubs I guess
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>>569518623
On an RTX 2060 they're targeting 1080p(upscaled) 60fps(with framegen), so really more like 720p30.
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>>569519296
I'm okay with bad graphics but I'm going to be pissed if my game is basically pixelated, I might have to wait for the community mod to remove all these ray tracing shenanigans.
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>>569516043
you are correct
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>>569519427
I myself just want to play the game at 60 fps no matter if it looks like it came straight from the PS1 or something, and it seems like RT will deny me even that.
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>>569519296
The Monster Hunter Wilds experience. If they do framegen that's probably less than ideal if you can't run it well in the first place, especially with the heavy flight model.
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Game not even out or finished and buddies are doomposting, just another day in /aceg/
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>>569520140
I was suprised at how well MHW runs on my old PC, I was expecting a shitshow. I'm on an RX 570 (Which was mid range in 2017)
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>>569520279
>slight criticism or reasonable yet sane fears
>doomposting
maybe r/acecombat is more your speed
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Should have bought an Xbox Series Sneed when they were like $200 for Christmas 2-3 years ago that's the perfect poverty box
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>>569520469
reasonable criticism like complaining about their midrange hardware from a decade ago might not be able to play an upcoming game
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>>569520626
the hardware from the minimum specs are not from a decade ago
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>>569520469
I only have 1 speed, full AB
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>>569520812
They're only from 8 years ago
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>>569520812
NTA but the min specs are for 7 year old parts that were lower-midrange back then
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>>569522439
>>569522460
So not from a decade ago and actually capable of running current games at 60 fps if not for one setting that is optional in others but for some reason is in this?
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>>569522910
if only you had 6 years to get your money up and have a PS5 equivalent PC
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>>569522910
By the time the game comes out its 8 year old parts, and wdym by current games, that's such a large bracket, i guarantee that setup doesn't run ALL games at 60fps and thats including non RT and pre UE5 games.
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>>569523389
>>569523554
>>569523389
I am running BF6 and FH6 smoothly on 60fps and last time I checked they are or will be on PS5
>hahaha slop games
Yes, and?
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also the build that the youtubers played had the graphics and button mapping settings disabled so we have no idea how truly scalable the game is going to be on launch
regardless, it is annoying to listen to poorfags complain about a dev having the temerity to not reheat 7th gen console standards of rendering and scale ad infinitum...
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>>569524107
BF6 and FH6 are PS4 era titles at heart, they do not do anything ambitious. Not so with AC8.
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>>569514148
If they're so passionate and autistic, why can't they get the textures optimized for UE5?
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>>569514148
>Not a lot of people talk about how all the leads at PA are huge into scale model building
because it's not really relevant to anything
> Probably why the texturework in AC games are always so topnotch.
or maybe they're just good professionals and would still be good professionals even if they didn't care about plens?
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>>569525151
>or maybe they're just good professionals and would still be good professionals even if they didn't care about plens?
there are many professional AAA products with substandard assets because they or their bosses did not have passion for the subject matter
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So apparently you can't buy Ace Combat 8 if you live in Iraq, Syria, Libya, or Venezuela. Like those four specifically. But if you live in Iran you can.
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I wonder if tourists will complain about Hotas this time
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>>569516867
>Tasha's OOO~KI! when she sees your LAND BATTLESHIP
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>>569525567
perhaps iran gets a pass for being one of the few modern nations that has produced actual aces in the post ww2 order
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>>569516867
I'm disappointed she doesn't have a Yuke accent in english, I was hoping to hear her BLYAT
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>>569525697
VR this time seems to be the hot thing to complain about from people who don't play these.
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>>569525567
Its because the strait of Hormuz issues are going to be solved with a US vs Iran AC online lobby
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>>569525952
Lol maybe.
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>>569526247
That would make more sense than whatever the fuck is happening there now.
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>>569524215
>we have no idea how truly scalable the game is going to be on launch
We already know 60fps will not be possible in a wide range of currently used GPUs that are fine, look I get that poorfags can be annoying but complaining about people rising fears about optimization in a engine notoriously famous for its inefficiency is annoying too.
>>569524492
That was FH5, 6 was developed as a current gen title.
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>>569521820
>AC7 never
How things change
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Is the ATD a big deal for the japs? I saw that thing so much on Infinity, but now with the revival nobody flies it.
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>>569527307
That might be because it's a bit far up the tech tree and no one is interested in the special versions of it.
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gonna try my first ace combat game
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>>569529445
fun game
have fun buddy
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>>569525567
>Venezuela
Disappearing their president and stealing their oil wasn't enough? Now they can't play the silly plane game either?
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>>569417795
>seversky
"Seversky" is not a real name, as far as I can tell, but it does pretty directly translate to "[person from] North", which could be an interesting clue of sorts. That, or she's named SEVER SKY because she's a traitor as you suspect.

BUT WAIT, "Tasha" is derived from Natasha which is derived from Natalya which is derived from Natalia, a Roman name which means "relating to birth" or "birthday" and is in particular used to refer to Christmas Day/Jesus' birthday. So maybe there's gonna be some Christmas or Christ symbolism with her too. We know Christmas exists in Ace Combat, with similar traditions.

Hold on... a Christmasy person from the North... She's Santa Claus!
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>>569530104
thanks, the soundtrack slaps
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>>569530369
also it should be severskaya since russian last names are gendered
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>>569527307

There was a bit of national pride for them, since the ATD was the first time they'd built a domestic jet fighter since the 1970s.

ATD is not actually going to become a fighter since Japan signed on GCAP, so I think interest in it has faded.
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>>569530369
>Seversky is not a real name

do you even P-47 Thunderbolt?
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>>569530861
I stand corrected, buddy!
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>>569530630
>ATD is not actually going to become a fighter since Japan signed on GCAP, so I think interest in it has faded.
Well the ATD was never going to be a production fighter, that was the intention from the outset. It was built to see if Japan *could* build stealth aircraft, a tech demonstrator essentially.
The Mitsubishi F-X was going to be the actual production fighter, before Japan joined GCAP.
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>>569530484
I got so scammed with the stealth plane this thing handles like a boat
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>>569531953
Don't worry you get actually good stealth planes later.
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>>569531953
Some non-spoilery tips:
>If you die in the game you die IRL
*You lose access to the plane you died in, but may be able to rebuy one.
>Offense determines how strong your missiles are
Only really matters on Hard difficulty and when your Offense and the enemy plane's Defense have a huge mismatch, otherwise everything dies in 2 missiles, 3 for bombers.
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bread doko
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>>569532359
>>569532359
>>569532359
Time to fly off to azurer skies
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>>569473996
I wonder if they’re counting the F-4 as a “carrier” plane, with the apparently big focus on carrier-specific aircraft? I know they usually use the F-4E, but AC4 had it as a carrier jet, even if AC5 didn’t… maybe they’ll even have two variants?



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