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>>569407393Why isn't it a Gal*Gun OP? This seemed like as good an opportunity as any.
Copen and Mytyl are Shinobu's kids.GV is probably Kaoruko's son.Kirin is likely Maya's descendant.Any other GalGun relatives in Gunvolt? Like are Nova or Zonda related to anyone, or is it just going to be player characters?>>569408026We don't want to draw the ire of Elpiss.
>>569408315>Any other GalGun relatives in Gunvolt?There will probably be a Gal*Gun surname reveal or two in the iX OCW
>>569408315Does that outfit cause damage over time when you start lobbing pheremone shots at her?
>>569408315Well, Kurona (Nori) and Ekoro (Nori's boss), but those are freebies.>NovaCan't find anyone.>ZondaWould say Aoi since they're both blondes with pink highlights who wear rabbit ears, but they don't share a leitmotif as far as I know (maybe someone can correct me) and Aoi became a big rockstar in GV's backlore.
>wear rabbit earsThought those were her actual hair.
>>569409431Her profile states otherwise.
>>569407393Since it's not listed here:>For Famitsu's anniversary Inti released new Gal*Gun/Grim Guardians art showing what appears to be two new characters, new human disguises for various existing characters, and also Lola because ???
>>569408026>nothing even close to being announced>Why isn't it a Gal*Gun OP?Gee I dunno.
>>569409963Waiting for it to turn out that this is where Acura wound up after GV2. He'll hang out with his young mom since everything went to shit back in his timeline.
>>569410129>Copen ends up being his own dad
It's awesome that Copen hacksaw'd those credit card adepts and now we can have Gal Gun ecchi kino again
Howcome weak spots of all the girls change between GalGun Returns to DP? I mean in universe.
>>569410919>hacksaw'd those credit card adeptsAdepts tend to be lewd, Cope is the prude who can't even handle lingerie models.
>>569409963Where the FUCK is Kaoruko?Everyone else is there somehow.
>>569407393>last edition is not the last edition but the 2nd one before the last onesusga
>>569411413She graduated.You can still faintly see her statue in the background at least.
>>569411413Graduating in Gal Gun gets you banned from all future meet ups
>>569370546I really like scenes like this. Slightly erotic, very cute. >>569376251>>569376936Glad you liked it, anon. It's a truly excellent series.>>569383519>dub???
>all of the galgun girls wound up being deadbeat & absent mothersCan we blame angels for this too?
>>569411565>>569411563I know she graduated but still. Even for promotional stuff she can't be part of the pin up?
>>569411413Ekoro is missing too.
>>569411835Seems more like Gal Guardians then.
Maybe the new blondie is Kaoruko's bratty imouto
>>569411563Imagine they actually male Lysa and Masha and Kirika heroines in a GalGun game. Would be really funny to contrast that with their already shown violent psychosis.
>>569411672What are you talking about?
>>569411835Neither Ekoro nor Patako were in GG2 for some reason.>>569411986She's an only child.
>>569411464Fake general gotta fake general
>>569412126Lysa is meant to meet Lyzenorg's reincarnation Asimov while Masha and Kirika are for Maxim, they can't be Gal Gun heroines.Now, if it was Dranis, Gardenas, and Zuzu there'd be room to work with.
>>569411974But it's the school and not the gritty castle or Hell.Oh, who am I kidding, of course it's gonna be Gal Guardians again. Japan is a thoroughly raped country and all these publishers already spread their asscheeks for Sony half a decade ago.
The third game will start development today and release 6 months from now
>>569407393We call him "El Pollo Loco" over here.
>>569409963>and also Lola because ???She's a floating ball like Maxim, that's it.
>>569412548You say that and yet we know any girl in these games is susceptible to the orgasm shot.
>>569412434Roro cosplayer?! Never imagined that I would see the day. A bit too tall tho.
>>569407393Real previous edition>>569067009
>>569413749In Lysa's case I bet it wouldn't work for once, you need to electrocute her instead to get that reaction.
>>569414009With the tone of GalGun, it might work too well.
>>569413749What if you used it on the Gunvolt girls.Same universe.
>>569413938Fakest edition
>>569409963It's the image that made the Yohanefags go mad. It wasn't even a regular kind of madness, it was the sea madness that Capt'n Ahab had.>>569412505Sir, the fake general would have 10 necro image bumps by now>>569412774And I don't see why. Switch 2 is outselling the PS5 20 to 1.
>>569410251Does he benefit from those special brainwaves from Futurama cus he does the nasty in the pasty?>>569411183Griefer Elise in the online game harrassing adepts alongside Acura when?
>>569410919Those were not adepts and Copen knew it...but he also knew that the bible says a lot of things about how to deal with those rats.
>>569414372I haven't been very pleased with Nintendo but Playstation outright deserves to die for switching from Japan to California.
>>569411736Didn't the Isola incident clue you about what "graduating" means in these games?
>>569407393Where's Princess Pride? This is her month!
>>569414327For all we know a new galgun happens daily by the time of GV.Once in Botswana, again in Uruguay, another in Laos, then the day after in Poland. But because it's such a minor and self contained event it doesn't make waves in the general chaos of the GV timeline.
>>569414503Because of Copen's past nastyfications, heaven punished the world with adepts.
>>569414372>he's still mad about the RoRo boat
>>569410129After all the schizo theories over how Chiru and Copen must be related, it'd be funny if the actual connection was simply Copen being a retard and leaving his weapons lying around in another timeline (again).
>>569411628There's a special release where the games got a japanese dub Maybe he is referring to that
>>569410129It would be the hack-iest thing ever if Inti simply copied the Future Trunks plotline. So it'll probably happen.
https://x.com/GunvoltOfficial/status/2062377336776069409
I preferred their Goblinism collab.
I'm addicted to evil women.
>>569416245That was Shantae. And somehow the frenchie 10 year old found out how to fix the genie demographic problem before Shantae did.
>>569416350We lack those. It's a shame.
>>569414372The Yohane crab boat arc has been the most dramatic thing here since X dive died.>>569416350We know, it's almost a requirement to post here at this point.
それはそうと、この作品…二作目になった事により、スタッフの好みが本当によく表面化してきてますよね。メインヒロイン前作からロリ化して続投存在消滅新ヒロインロリ死亡or記憶喪失(別人格化?)ラスボス前作からロリ化して続投死亡いやぁ、良い趣味ですね。しかしこれは倒錯してる。間違いない(確信)ただ、このどうせみんないなくなる絶望しかない作風に、だんだんとときめいてしまっているのも事実。次作ではどんなえぐい展開が待っているかまったくもって楽しみで候。>Anyway, now that this series has reached its second installment, the staff's personal tastes have really started to come to the surface, haven't they?>Main Heroine: Returns from the previous game—now "loli-fied"—only to have her existence completely erased.>New Heroine: A "loli" character—who ends up either dead or suffering from amnesia (perhaps resulting in a complete personality shift?).>Final Boss: Returns from the previous game—also "loli-fied"—only to meet a brutal demise at the hands of the hero.>Well, I have to say... they certainly have *good* taste. That said, it’s undeniably twisted. There’s absolutely no doubt about it (I’m convinced).>And yet, it’s also a fact that I’ve gradually found myself getting a strange thrill out of this despair-laden narrative style—the kind where you just know that, in the end, everyone is going to die anyway. I am absolutely, thoroughly looking forward to seeing what kind of brutal twists and turns await us in the next installment.Do we want more dead 130 cms? Is GV3 disappointing because Layla didn't die?
>>569416350They're sexy, have the best personalities, and are badass.
>>569416880The shocking twist that Yohane was never on the boat but that it was RoRo posting from the boat this whole time.
>>569416745>Elise >Gibril >Zonda >Kirin >Spear Imouto >Rafaela >Pandora >Basically the whole cast of Gal Guardians 2>Risky Boots >Copy Roll>The whole Batgal speciesAnd I know I'm still missing a lot
>>569417184>RoRo posting from the boat
>>569417184Only no game idols get in the boat.
>>569417379We've got plenty of evil and evil-ish girls. We lack evil women. Berkana, Adult Kurona, that sort of thing. >Kirin>Risky BootsWeak bait.
>>569416880You say you like evil women then post the last hope left in man.
>>569417525Secret's out RoRo. Go back to fishing.
>>569417159Someone here translated the parts of X-Over relating to her years ago, and I regret not saving those posts.
>>569417930Roro's got two games in the works. How many games Yohane has in the making?
>>569417987
>>569417802Kirin is a fed. That's all you need to know.
>>569418152RoRo's got 3 debts in the works you mean. It's why Inti's tagging Yatch Club over Mina but Yatch Club isn't saying anything about Inti and the bundle.
>>569417184rats revealing the truth. What a time.
>>569416745There were a lot of villainess designs submitted to the MMDO competition.
>>569417906
>>569418436So how many games Yohane has in the works anon?
>>569418646Yeah. The people want it. Capcom ain't giving it, though.
>>569418436We went over that the last thread anon. Yach Club is the one spending money they don't have on V tuber shilling.
>>5694188400 right now but she has concerts and events. RoRo supposedly has 2 but she's accruing a debt and it's clearly hitting Inti since they have to try and mooch off of a boat with a rat. So in light of everything RoRo is in fact on the boat.
What compels an indie dev to buy an office in of the most expensive areas in Los Angeles?
>>569418840Yohane has TWO games with HER name on it. How many does Roro have?Oh, is it nothing? Oh...But at least she's the playable char- Oh she's not?? Oh...
>>569419167>Yatch club isn't bothering with Inti>Inti is trying to tag them>but it's Yatch Club that wants Inti's attentionThat's not how it works.
>>569419390She has VNs too but that's besides the point.
>>569419450It's just like when Inti only did BMZ because they "felt bad" for Sunsoft.A core competency for Inti is coping.
>>569419212>>569419390That's what I thought, so back to the boat Yoshiko, a girl was shredded by the cage that pulled too hard yesterday and you will have to clean that up.
>>569419390That Yohanevania game was fucking garbage. So lame I didn't even finish the demo. I wouldn't brag about that one.
>>569419796Hard coping that it's been RoRo on the boat this whole time.
>>569419639It was the other way around, after how well BMZ3 did and how many of their old IP it put back on the map, they felt that they didn't need Inti anymore to make something worth buying. As it turns out, they do deserve the spot of the biggest kuzo makers of Japan.
>>569419965If it's talking about quality then Puzzmix has the title of king of kuso.
>>569419965The kicker is that it is the best Love Live game by far. You should see how bad her deck builder is.
>>569418708Reminder that Zonda would have grown up to be taller than Tenjian, and the third tallest Gunvolt girl on the cast.
>>569420318PuzzmiX is more of a game than any of the five failed gachas were.
>>569420440How is she so tall? Isn't she supposed to be Chinese?
>>569420440In the air. She could have been a lolibaba too for all we know of adepts work or age.
>>569420523>PuzzmiX is more of a gameNo it isn't. Especially not when Suika actually had multiplayer.
>>569419965Better than kusogami and flop no kingdom. Also Inti's 3rd highest rated game on steam.
I haven't been here in a while has Inti started adding more lolis to their games again
>>569420523>have to play a bad suika clone>and listen to Roro's shitty songs tooSounds like a punishment you'd see in the first circle of hell.
>>569419167>spending money they don't have on V tuber shilling>other places get vtuber shilling for free>Inti can't get the free shilling or pay for it
>>569420653Septimatose son! Same reason why Gibril doesn't look like a Dreamworks extra, why Stella doesn't stink, why Gino doesn't look like Luigi and if the records are true why Shion whent from linebacker to a femboi.
>>569420318What is with you people bringing up Puzzmix all the time? It's some shitty little $4 mini-game. It's not remotely comparable to the Yohane metroidvania, or any of the other games you bring it up against. >>569420774>Better than kusogami and flop no kingdom.Ha, no.>Also Inti's 3rd highest rated game on steam.Because it's fucking Love-Live.
>>569420440The projections are probably fantasies of her, like Luxia and Lumen. Chances are, she'll be short due to malnutrition and stress, similar to Mytyl and Joule being shorties due to experiments/procedures. She's already well below the average height for her age group.
>>569420653With a name like Pantera, I'm betting abandoned foreigner.
>>569420840Inti are still too bitch-made. Even Capcom made a cute and funny game recently with Pragmata.
>>569421096>shittyThe point.
>>569421096Hah, yes!>Highest rated game: CotM>Second highest: BMZ>Third highest: YohaneSounds like Inti should've just remained a 2nd party developer. They can only make something worthwhile while under contract.
>>569420753You are not only defending a gacha scam but actual vaporware.>>569420840Majogami holds the current record of most lolis in an IntiCreates game.
>>569421096>It's some shitty little $4 mini-gameYou can get a better game for roughly the same price that actually lets you do more.
>>569421451>>569421707Comically missing the point.>>569421614>b-but the ratings! the sales!!You're on /mmg/, anon.
>>569421678I'm pointing out that PuzzmiX is somehow worse than gacha scam and vaporware.
>>569421450Don't you DARE to go there when you know for a fact that Diana was made by cometee to be little lolibait as possible. Her default costume is a huge baggy coat for fucks sakes.
>>569421861And that's how it looks when gacha cost sunk fallacy meets idol fanatism.
>>569421856>weighted user ratings? pfft>one anonymous on an imageboard making anecdotal claims? Yes!!Right, right. I'm sure kusogami is a misunderstood masterpiece according to (You), but everyone else thought it was hot garbage.
>>569421856No the point is that Inti wanted to rip cash out of you with a cheaply made game that would've worked better as a mini game within a base game. Actual indie devs are pulling the stuff Inti tries cheaply putting out.
>>569422148We're having different conversations. And again, you're on fucking /mmg/.
>>569422207I still can't fucking believe some of the ix2 dlc bosses went for $8. EIGHT fucking dollaridoos. For a single mid boss fight that unlocked abilities Copen could already do in a previous game.What the fuck.
>>569422138>gacha cost sunk fallacyHaven't spent a nickel on gacha ever.
>>569422207No it isn't.
>>569421947It has to be gone there. If soulless corporate boardroom hacks have more courage than you then what are you?Why are you?Majogami itself only exists because of one guy's autism.
>>569422623>Majogami itself only exists because of one guy's autism.So what? They still made it.
>>569421947>Diana by committee was still loliGuess Inti really has gone broke.
>>569422623>[game] only exists because of one guy's autism.Welcome to Inti Creates
>>569423190Autism Creates
>>569421450>muscular hairy middle aged dude in remarkable good shape gets off with not one, but two robo daughterwives and made it mainstream tooBased Capcom.Inti could never.
>>569423326Autism Desecrates
>>569423646Good autism createsNormalfags and bad autism desecrate
>>569416895Yes, that is the point of Gunvolt. iX is the hopeful, badass series. GV is the despair inducing one that makes you feel like shit.
>>569424459Since Inti Desecrates they need a fix
>>569424459Inti doesn't have the cool autism that makes them really good at one thing in particular.Inti has the lame autism that turns them into Chris Chans.
>>569418708>>569420440You can thank Tron for your waifu's ridiculous hair.
>>569425123>the medallion
>REEEEE INTIIIIIIt's all so tiresome.
If Legends Collection releases, will you buy it in the vain hopes that it'll get Capcom to make Legends 3?
>>569425139Caskett*
>>569425123>makes them really goodThey technically did once but an ex-employee said that the autism was too strong. Now that autism isn't even helping them.
>>569424556Gunvolt only makes me feel like shit because it was awfully directed, badly written and failed to deliver a satisfying narrative conclusion.And what makes it even worse is that Inti proved they're capable of doing it. Or at least some of its employees are capable of doing it.
>>569425390Caskett's hair comes straight out in big triangles, almost like she's Sonic. Tron's hair has a bit of curve and more volume. Albert and Zonda both copied Tron's hairdo.
>>569425354Probably not since I don't like how the games play.
>>569425217>gunvolt never takes the medallion off>the timeline shifts and all characters from different universes and timelines conglomerate togetheroh my god
>>569425793>Probably not since I don't like how the games play.Most honest legends fan
>>569425736The funny thing was that BMZ3's writer was brought in to write GV3 when they moved Tai over to iX2. He ended up throwing out a lot of the old script to try to write his own thing, because he didn't like how edgy it had gotten. It had things like Gunvolt slaughtering a bunch of noncombatants, including toddlers, at Eden, so now the one surviving toddler, who'd grown into being a teenager, was after him for revenge. That character was Grazie, and it's why she has such berserker rage in the game. It's left over from that old concept.
>>569425354I'll buy it because it would be an easy way to play those games without being scalped to heaven and back. Unless they are censored or they come on a game key.
/mmg/ was right. You only bring up Mega Man to goon to the characters. You're not interested in discussing anything but /inti/.
>>569422623Show any piece of official art where Diana is on a bikini or a playboy bunnysuit.
>>569426267Considering they already censored the remake of a falcom game and Betilla got censored into a damn bird, no way do these game escape unscathed.
>>569426489>show irrelevant promotional materialNo.
>>569426421There's not much to talk about right now though.
>>569426263GV was an antihero douchebag to his enemies from day 1, especially if they were adepts. His fans can't wrap their heads around it, because they expect him to be like a Mega Man protagonist. He may talk like a hero, and make righteous speeches about how his enemies are absolute evil undeserving of mercy, and he's going to rain righteous fury down upon them, but you look at his actions, and kid fucks up all the time, and only realizes it after the fact in the next game. Because they think he's a Mega Man protagonist, they will try to find ways to justify his actions by making his enemies out to be monstrously evil, even though in every sequel, he says "maybe I took things too far and shouldn't have killed every one of them I could find."
>>569426263Anon making things up is one thing but you shouldn't slander a newcomer to the series employee who was given a mess by the director to work with. The shorter timeskip concept was obviously dropped by the time GV3 was first announced.
>>569427034He always kills adepts because they're potentially dangerous. If they're nonadepts, he'll leave them alone, unless they're collateral damage in one of his bombing runs.
>>569425354>>569425793>>569425990None of you are gonna buy it because it will NEVER release. If it does I'm deleting my account.
>>569427192The Grazie thing was probably true. I don't think GV killed the other "6 dwarves" on purpose though, like anons here said he did. It'd be wildly out of character for him to gun down a bunch of pre-schoolers.
>>569426421Wanna talk about Starforce? Thoughts on Meteor cards? People slept on those and don't realize how spammable they can be. It's also one of the few good setups that Cygnus noise can get mileage from.
>>569427452Your account?
>>569427558I'm still hung up on playing 2 and 3. 3 good, but 2 bad, but autism demands I play 2 first, and I know neither of them will have 1's charm, and...
>>569427505>It'd be wildly out of character for him to gun down a bunch of pre-schoolers
>>569427505You're talking about a GV who felt good about getting revenge on an 11-year-old, so I don't know. Even Copen might have felt a tinge bad about it, if you interpret him hearing his sister's cry for brother over Zonda's cry for brother as him hallucinating.
>>569427783Yes.
Notice how it always circle back to >but muh eden?
>>569407517wtf based
>>569428096Fuck it. Zonda earned that bullet.
>>569426421I liked the vehicle stages talk>>569427754>Same being stuck in SF2I hate wazzap
>>569428096I don't know if Michiru calling for Acura exists in the final version of the game. It exists in the JP script uploaded on the wiki, but I don't hear any associated VA work. Would be cool, though, and set up another parallel between Pantera and Michiru, or maybe hint at Acura seeing Michiru in Pantera and feeling guilt.>>569428607And that's one of the stations on the bad route that leads to Morb or iX2.
>>569427623On plebbit duh, thought you had to have one to post on here.
>>569428778Not checking herself wrecked the world. Just get rid of her earlier and it'll get better.
>MorbI fucking hate Gunvolt 3 so much.
>>569428778>or maybe hint at Acura seeing Michiru in Pantera and feeling guiltFucking stop yourself. Why would Copen feel bad about killing the loli despot who not only abducted his sister, but is also actively trying to kill him and eradicate humanity? This general's delusions are going way too far.
>>569428628Our hero couldn't save wazzap
>>569427505>The Grazie thing was probably trueWhat is actually known is from this early design concept's notes>白雪姫に出てくる七人の小人もノームらしいので白雪姫つながりでテンジアンと知り合いだとちょっと面白いなと思いました。 (5歳ぐらいで会ってないとですが)>Since the seven dwarves in Snow White are apparently gnomes, I thought it would be kind of interesting if Tenjian knew (Grazie) because of the Snow White connection. (Though that would mean they would have met when (Grazie) was about 5 years old.)That's it. That's all there is, and it was before the story was settled and long before writers changed.It does reveal a lot though since this is the only source that's let slip that they actually hadn't settled on the several decade timeskip even when real development started.GV3's story might have been close to becoming something very different and more interesting than what we got in the end.
>>569428387Because the Elisefag isn't doing his job, and people don't want to discuss the complexities of Nova, who is a very cute and good boy. And if we discuss GV3, then we get>shit story>white woman>DOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGDOGGV2 is well liked, but also controversial, and it has two diametrically opposed audiences to argue over it (edgelords and moefags).>You could discuss iXlol>Mega Man?It's been years since we've had the last new game, and it wasn't a story or character driven one. What, you want us to talk about how we jump and shot through 8 stages + 4 Wily Stages, or about our favorite boss, who has like one line of dialogue? There just isn't a lot to discuss when it comes to classic MM. Not knocking it, it's very fun, it's just not something you talk about beyond "it gud."
>>5694277542 is only bad if you care about the story, gameplay is better than Starforce 1 and any issue like encounter rates or having to deal with long trips can be fixed in the collection. Give it a try, card combos are quite fun in 2.
>>569429148Copen has vivisected adepts in the past. When he fought Gibril, he's said he's used to killing adept children like her and enjoys it. He's shot infants. He told Tenjian he would drag out Zonda's death before sending her to hell. He has a kill count in the hundreds of random innocent adepts. This general is delusional. Copen likes killing adepts. He lives for it.
>>569429781The only part of your post that is correct is that the general is delusional, yourself included.
>>569424583Lumen's proportion are so off...Cougar can only draw the shortstack loli body type.
>>569429148I said it was a possibility that he may have seen Michiru in Zonda. Tenjian mentioned earlier how the two are alike, even though Acura rejected it by claiming that Tenjian's relationship with his sister was a fake bond formed from a fake life unlike his relationship.
>the complexities of Nova>I must control adepts, otherwise they'll KILL each other!!!Alright Asimov. Guess GV3 proved him wrong too.The gift that keeps on giving.
>>569429989Adept shits get the bullit. Humanity will win because we can be infinitely more cruel and evil than adepts.
>bullitesl being a stupid, violent-obsessed psycho - many such cases.
>>569430168GV3 sucks ass. This is a black and white conflict. Nova, Zonda, Elise, Gibril, all the characters this general simps over deserve to be tortured eternally in hell. Gunvolt is right about them when he says that they are beyond redemption and that they do not deserve any mercy.>>569430359>secondary not knowing what Copen calls his bullets
>>569430168But now in iX3 it's implied with Asimov no longer running the show with his brainwashing brain the adepts really are on the verge of killing each other
>>569430452copen is also a violent esl psycho, however.
>>569430112Completely outlandish. Copen already sees adepts as freaks of nature, and now Eden had all but given him carte blanche to go abso-fucking-lutely nuclear on all of them.All Copen felt when he pulled the trigger was the recoil.
>>569430531We have literally no knowledge what is going on in iX3, other than an otherworldly invasion.
>>569430615I think he felt pretty good at a job well done watching her bleed out. He felt good about Asroc burning to death too. There's a few other adept deaths he felt good about. But yeah, Copen wants to build the camps and put adepts through it. The few times he learns of Eden backgrounds, he makes fun of them for it and says he wishes he was there to have done the deed.
>>569430587Copen speaks better English than you.
>>569430658>"uneasy peace" (barely maintained peace in JP)>Anti-Blade graffiti>Zako enemies shown so far are Sumeragi adeptsEven back in iX1 the story description implied society being peaceful is thanks to Asimov
>>569429781Why do Copenfags like to fap to their dude being an ultra hardcore evil bastard to adepts?
Copen only speaks in High Gothic.
>>569431218Because this general is filled with weirdos that see themselves as The Punisher, and like to project their warped sense of justice onto characters. See also: the schizo that was trying to say X was a violent cop that would cap a perp and enjoy it.
>>569416880>>569417379Ywnbaw
>>569431356>see themselves as The Punisher,That makes zero sense and has zero persuasive power. Come up with another narrative.
>>569431715>>508717621 >>558575153>>534081669>>530572058 >>519128172>that makes zero senseRight you are, ken
>>569432013Explain why you linked any of those posts, because at the very least none of it suggests "they see themselves as The Punisher". At most you could argue it suggests they like The Punisher, but even then I doubt /co/shit is popular here.
>>569432332If you're too stupid to see the parallels between Copen, The Punisher, and the way the general likes to portray characters while enthusiastically discussing their murder boner, then there's no point in trying to carry a discussion with you. Saying 'they see themselves as the punisher' isn't LITERAL, you dumbfuck autist.
>>569430168Yeah, Nova and Zonda are as complex as GV and Copen, and they're as capable of redeeming themselves, or doubling down, as much as those two.
>>569432754Yeah, sure, GV or Copen are anywhere near comparable to the god-queen of a genocidal cult and a would be globally mind-controlling tyrant.
>>569432704>Saying 'they see themselves as the punisher' isn't LITERALIn other words, they don't see themselves as The Punisher, and you were retarded to even say that. Thanks, I accept your concession.
>>569426263Or you could say that she's Dopey, Happy and Grumpy all at the same time.
>>569432957>What is a figure of speech
>>569431218There is only one guy who exaggerates Copen's deeds to comically high degrees and how much he apparently enjoys killing adepts, when in actuality the poor boy is going through Ryan Gosling levels dissociation and emotional numbness. And his scowl remains unfazed even when talking to his sister. Many of the characters in this series go through fleeting moments of happiness, Copen doesn't even smile. Not once.I've always thought this character deserved pity. This is exactly what happens when you allow a child to inherit social bigotry and fail them every step of the way, allowing them to just stew in their own hatred.
>>569432908What is with you people and making Nova and Zonda responsible for everything? Zonda = figurehead, Nova = lieutenant. Zonda has to get permission from Tenjian, and her part of the plan after the infiltration was limited to extracting Joule and singing a global Anthem for all adepts, and Nova takes orders from "the brass," even complaining about it in Justice Rage, and only directly commands Jota and Merak (everyone else you fight are in different departments of Sumeragi). They're meant to parallel GV and Joule/Mytyl, so aren't in complete control of their destinies and are being greatly influenced by others.
>>569433542Well, I can say with 100% certainty that Zonda is responsible for my massive erection right now
I never knew the SAO artist worked on Megaman.
>>569434330Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Luna.
>>569433932That's not healthy.
>>569433247Whole lot of sad projection and soi whining about bigotry in this post. You are such a loser.
>>569433247How can he have dissociation when he views even his own sister as a rat by the end?
>>569434668That's not his sister, just something wearing her face. He will collect himself, then she will end up in the lab, strapped to a table, with a bonesaw revving, ready to play her part in the extermination of the adept vermin gnawing at the roots of God's world.
>>569430452His actual bullets are called Beowulf or Greed Snatcher, Bullits are what the retard calls his air dash charges.
>>569434663Take it easy /pol/. If I were the writer I would've had him double down, continue to do nothing wrong, be based, see the absolute state of the plot in GV3 and delete himself from it in a blaze of glory.>>569434668Loses his only anchor. All that's left for him is to continue his gruesome work in a state of complete detachment.
>>569434534You know what, someone said they have some design similarities, and I can kind of see it.
>>569435506That same empty expression of glee.
LegendsGODS
Woah...Protohombre...
>>569436139Q4 son
>>569436139Xbros... Zerobros... ZXbros...What's this image? I haven't been keeping up
>>569436139>they said it wouldn't happen>they said it wouldn't be doneAbsolute legend.
>>569426991
>>569436738old art
I could really use a new Megaman game right now. I'm tired of Flopvolt and Cuckpen, they're both equally pathetic and bad protagonists. At least Capcom was capable of course correcting when everyone hated X7. Inti only doubles down on their retardation.
>>569438249x8 unfortunately ended up having worse writing than x7
>>569437035
>>569438249Join my new band instead, Theory of a Lev Fan.
Neon Genesis Evangelevon
>>569438450Fortunately, we don't really care about writing over on the /mmg/ side of things.
Neon Genesis EvangeLevAnon
Genesis of Levarion
>>569438450Wtf
>>569440426Yes we do, don’t lie.
>>569426421That would be a first one for the fake general. They get their facts wrong all the time to push their identity politics.
>>569426784It's a line Capcom used to be willing to pass but no anymore. But Inti still does.
>>569438249>At least Capcom was capable of course correcting when everyone hated X7They didn't send Axl back to his home planet, so no.
>>569426421Well yeah, this is the thread that has proudly advertised itself as "Horny /mmg/", and constantly berates the other general for their lack of horny OPs. What tipped you off? /mmg/ posts here just serve as fuel to keep the thread bumped, while /inti/ talks in circles about Gunvolt. When Dual Override comes, a new generation of /mmg/ posters will be presented with an endless deluge of the same stupid fucking talking points>le copen racism>epic zonda!!!etc, and some might even be tricked into actually playing a gunvolt game.note: other inti games are nowhere to be seen during all of this.
I'd much rather just talk about Leviathan if I am being completely and utterly honest.
>>569445638Ok then, why she faked her death? Did she hate paying taxes that much?
>>569445803With Neo Arcadia destroyed or at least under Weil's leadership at the time meant that she would've had to ally with the Resistance which she absolutely would no do so she faked her own death along with the rest of the Guardians and went their own way.
>>569438583Man, there's like next to no promotion with Secrets of the Dark compared to the first game with Shinobu and Maya as MCs. If anything, just go back to the lingering plot thread that is the time-traveling Kirara and throw in iX and Striker Princess Mytyl in that setting, see how their mothers were at their prime.
>>569409963Some say that the new girls are the two MCs for Gal Guardians 3. And that would be very balsy of INTI after how 2 went.
>>569426421Could use more sexy roomba.
>>569443641>and constantly berates the other general for their lack of horny OPsThey do have a lot of horny OPs, they are always yaoi tho.
>>569445638I’d rather not. It always gets too heated, and Levi is weak to fire.>>569446071I could see Levi staying with Weil’s Neo Arcadia in order to fight Zero. She already ignored protecting X in favor of that in Z2.I could see Levi joining and protecting Neige’s caravan. It’d make her absence in Z4 even weirder, but maybe she stayed in Neo Arcadia to cover their escape or something.I could see Levi dying in Omega’s explosion. Because it’s a plot explosion and she was already damaged, we’ve been over this before.But I absolutely cannot see Levi going “lol fuck it :)” and abandoning Neo Arcadia, humanity as a whole, AND fighting Zero to vanish into the wastelands never to return. That’s completely absurd.
>>569448053>I could see Levi staying with Weil’s Neo Arcadia in order to fight Zero. She already ignored protecting X in favor of that in Z2.You're crazy. She prioritized her own grudge against Zero for getting back at Omega. She would not serve under Weil if it meant fighting Zero. She could just do both. >I could see Levi joining and protecting Neige’s caravan. It’d make her absence in Z4 even weirder, but maybe she stayed in Neo Arcadia to cover their escape or something.It is more likely that she helped other humans who fled the destruction of Neo Arcadia or from Weil's tyrannical rule since Area Zero clearly wasn't the only area that sprouted up a civilization in the ZX series.>I could see Levi dying in Omega’s explosion. Because it’s a plot explosion and she was already damaged, we’ve been over this before.I genuinely cannot see that happening. Especially over "protecting Zero" of all people. Zero was the only one in that battle that took significant damage. >But I absolutely cannot see Levi going “lol fuck it :)” and abandoning Neo Arcadia, humanity as a whole, AND fighting Zero to vanish into the wastelands never to return. That’s completely absurd.Nobody is saying that.
>>569448592>She prioritized her own grudge for Omega over getting back at Zero.*
>>569433542>What is with you people
>>569433542Yeah, but have you considered that I'm going to repeat the same argument until you get bored and stop wanting to engage it? How about them apples?
humanity exists outside of neo arcadia, as per the developer's statement.
>>569448592>She prioritized her own grudge for Omega over getting back at Zero.Yeah, and Omega’s dead. Weil ain’t Omega. I’m not saying it’s likely, I’m saying I could see it. It’d definitely be a villain route.>she helped other humans who fled the destruction of Neo Arcadia or from Weil's tyrannical rule since Area Zero clearly wasn't the only area that sprouted up a civilization in the ZX series.Area Zero is special because it’s an anomaly. There are no other livable areas outside of Neo Arcadia. There’s more in ZX, but that’s much latter. >I genuinely cannot see that happening. Especially over "protecting Zero" of all people. Zero was the only one in that battle that took significant damage.It’s more “fighting Omega” than “protecting Zero.” I don’t buy that one either. And the damage I’m talking about was from the start of the game vs Omega, that never got fully repaired.>Nobody is saying that.People have before, believe it or not. Forgive me if it sounded like >>569446071 was doing so.
>>569450885>Area Zero is special because it’s an anomaly. There are no other livable areas outside of Neo Arcadia.Incorrect.
>>569447367What makes MMX so appealing to yaoi enthusiasts?
The fangame mega man W comes out in 3 hours
If Wily's symbol is W, why does he never win?
>>569450885>Yeah, and Omega’s dead. Weil ain’t Omega. I’m not saying it’s likely, I’m saying I could see it. It’d definitely be a villain route.I don't see that happening at all. She's not going to follow the guy that manipulated her Master, terrorized the humans as a dictator, or follow the man that controlled Omega, just to get a fight with Zero. It didn't happen then, it's not happening there.>Area Zero is special because it’s an anomaly. There are no other livable areas outside of Neo Arcadia. There’s more in ZX, but that’s much latter.From what we know anyway. Humanity would have no chance of rebounding if all we had was the Area Zero settlement camp and Ciel.>It’s more “fighting Omega” than “protecting Zero.” I don’t buy that one either. And the damage I’m talking about was from the start of the game vs Omega, that never got fully repaired.From what we assume, she was fully repaired seeing as how Harpuia was at about the same time and he didn't bother to stick around in the Resistance.>People have before, believe it or not. Forgive me if it sounded like >>569446071(You) was doing so.I was explaining the likely reason she would fake her own death in that scenario. That didn't imply she would just say "fuck it" and then disappear into the wastes. As the devs stated, she more than likely helped human refugees resettle after Neo Arcadia's fall or helped them escape Neo Arcadia from Weil's rule. The Guardians have always prioritized human safety above all else. You can argue about the whole Elpizo incident but clearly they knew that Zero was going to fix his mess especially after Leviathan sent a nuke towards the Resistance just for Elpizo's comically bad siege on Neo Arcadia.
From one minute into gunvolt 3 and I was pissed off at how completely inconsistent and nonsensical the story is."ah yes sumeragi are the good guys now and gunvolt became a primal dragon god of energy and thunder. Also if he combines his thunder power with my sealing talisman power we can create temporary copies of existing people!!" bitch please. giving all those crazy bitches from gun volt 1 and 2 agonized deaths was doing a service to menkind.Love gunvolt the game but i freaking hate the scripting ans characterization so god-damned much.cringiest characters and dialogue ever conceived by mankind and i played through the entire X series.
>>569452817>sumeragi are the good guysAlways were, Nova did nothing wrong.
>>569451096Except that's actually the case.
>>569453063WrongSource: Yabe developer statementNeo Arcadia is only a comfort hub that has a source of good food and clothing, but it's possible to live outside of it. Cope and seethe impotently
>>569451643Neat
>>569453245Meanwhile the games have Neo Arcadia scrambling to keep resources going and don't connect elsewhere. Just sounds like more Inti trying to have their cake and eat it again.
>>569451832He kinda won when zero was the one to bring an era of peace to the world, Wily was always good at taking light’s stuff and improving it
>>569441183I've said this before but the rundown is>X has very good reasons for not wanting to fight in X7, it's everyone else who is dumb>X7 doing more world building in a post Eurasia world is good>X8's idea of next-gen reploids and retconning Axl into an entirely new kind of reploid is dumb>X8's "sigma is dead and he isn't coming back" some of the most cynical marketing bait I've seen>X8's "biblical" references are bad and dumb even by JRPG standards
>>569452817Among the many issues with GV3 is that it's the only the game that expects you to have read the side stories and listened to some of the audio dramas, otherwise GV's regrets over killing all the other teens and Sumeragi doing some necessary shit for Japan (in other words, if you topple them without replacing them, you're fucked) come off as nonsensical. The conflict is pretty black and white in the games and the villains aren't that sympathetic.
>>569452013>I don't see that happening at all.Then let’s agree to disagree.>From what we know anyway. Humanity would have no chance of rebounding if all we had was the Area Zero settlement camp and Ciel.If there are other pockets of nature then nobody knows about them. Everyone acts like Area Zero is exceptional. And they could rebuild as-is. They’ve got environmental systems from Eurasia, infinite energy from the Ciel System, still a decent chunk of Neo Arcadia, no enemies or conflicts left, and a healthy dose of Capcom Science. >From what we assume, she was fully repaired seeing as how Harpuia was at about the same time and he didn't bother to stick around in the Resistance.No. Levi gets fucked up in the intro. She’s still fucked up by the missile stage according to Harpuia. At this point Weil takes over, who wouldn't be interested in repairing Leviathan. Therefore, she’s still damaged when she helps fight Omega. The drama tracks expand on this.And Harpuia wasn’t fully repaired when he left the resistance base. Cerveau says so.>As the devs stated, she more than likely helped human refugees resettle after Neo Arcadia's fall or helped them escape Neo Arcadia from Weil's rule.That statement says that maybe the Guardians survived and left to help humans outside the range of Neo Arcadia’s sensors. That implies that not only are there other human enclaves out there, which breaks the entire setting, but that the Guardians left without even knowing they existed, because NOBODY knows they exist, meaning as far as they know they’re abandoning humanity. That statement is blatantly bullshit in multiple ways.We’ve had this conversation before. Never let me hear any shit from /mmg/ about repeated Zonda arguments, we do the exact same thing.
>>569453567After he completely fucked it with the Maverick virus.
>>569453989He also probably caused the apocalyptic event that ended the Classic Era.
>>569453245You’re just openly lying now.
>>569453816>If there are other pockets of nature then nobody knows about them. Everyone acts like Area Zero is exceptional. >And they could rebuild as-is. They’ve got environmental systems from Eurasia, infinite energy from the Ciel System, still a decent chunk of Neo Arcadia, no enemies or conflicts left, and a healthy dose of Capcom Science.Nobody would know about them, yet. To say or imply that Area Zero is the only place on Earth with green life solely because of the enviromental systems somehow still running is ridiculous especially when this isn't the case in the X timeline and things are just rebuilt. Hell there's still places with life even after the collision, notably in X6. >No. Levi gets fucked up in the intro. She’s still fucked up by the missile stage according to Harpuia. At this point Weil takes over, who wouldn't be interested in repairing Leviathan. Therefore, she’s still damaged when she helps fight Omega. The drama tracks expand on this.>And Harpuia wasn’t fully repaired when he left the resistance base. Cerveau says so.I'll take your word for it then in this scenario.>That statement says that maybe the Guardians survived and left to help humans outside the range of Neo Arcadia’s sensors. That implies that not only are there other human enclaves out there, which breaks the entire setting, but that the Guardians left without even knowing they existed, because NOBODY knows they exist, meaning as far as they know they’re abandoning humanity. That statement is blatantly bullshit in multiple ways.You are completely missing the point and probably on purpose so you can bitch and moan about Zonda or whatever, I don't really care. You people tend to have a bad habit of chiming into random conversations to try and derail them. Ultimately, it doesn't break any setting, if anything it adds to it since we're shown that there eventually were more settlements outside of Area Zero.
>>569453816Continued from >>569454523since the post was too long. Go talk to someone else if you just want to circle jerk to Zonda, I really could not care less about Gunvolt or its characters or at the very least if you're going to keep replying to me and putting words in my mouth then at least keep it interesting by posting Leviathan pics that I haven't posted here before.
WiP
>>569455218Sex in progress.
>>569455287>arm covering butt
>>569454201nah, if you're ignorant of this, it's your own failing.
>>569455218This is very good.
>>569453989X would have fucked it up anyways because Dr Light forgot how inteligent species react to another inteligent species.
>>569452817For me it was how Kirin puts this air of "I'm better than you because I don't kill" when the first thing she did on screen was killing two men.
>>569454523>Nobody would know about them, yetYes, and people would have to know about them to flee to them, which is what we’re talking about.>To say or imply that Area Zero is the only place on Earth with green life solely because of the enviromental systems somehow still running is ridiculous especially when this isn't the case in the X timeline and things are just rebuilt. Hell there's still places with life even after the collision, notably in X6.That is the state of the world that MMZ presents. How things were in X doesn’t mean much, because the world-sundering Elf Wars happen between the two series. Hell, is X6 even in the MMZ timeline?>I'll take your word for it then in this scenario.I’d rather you take your encyclopedic /mmg/ lore knowledge for it, but I’ll take it. Thank you.>Ultimately, it doesn't break any settingIt absolutely does. A big part if MMZ’s setting is that it’s a post apocalypse with Neo Arcadia as the last holdout of humanity and civilization. There just being other pockets of humanity out there that nobody ever knew about is ridiculous.>>569454696>single off-hand mention of Zonda>immediately triggered, starts seething, pointing fingers, makes it personal, reeeeeAnd there’s the heat. Whatever, anon.
>>569455413https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgQEGNOU_QI
>>569457076They’re fiiiine. Sumeragi gear is good, I can see the parachute, don’t worry about it.
>>569457109>There just being other pockets of humanity out there that nobody ever knew about is ridiculous.Devs disagree, you've interpreted the setting wrong, and refuse to budge on your headcanon after all this time. Sad.
>>569457076But she does kill Asimov.
>>569457449>devs disagreeWhich one?
>>569411986This looks like they're going for a bratty angel and cheery airhead demon, and that'll be the Guardians 3 duo.
Kelsinger's
Why does /inti/ consider Quinn to be the ideal heroine? I found her to be very boring.
>>569457627Yabe. The direct quote was posted the last time we discussed this in March, but you clammed the fuck up at the end.>That breaks the entire setting. There is no other civilization or livable human areas out there, that's the entire fucking point.You really do just repeat yourself, huh?
We're winning the culture wars
>>569457701She stays in the kitchen and doesn't involve herself in the plot or fighting. The only badass and sexy girls should be the evil ones who you put in their place by killing them. That is the Latino way.
>>569457701I thought /inti/ held Eve, Leib, and Shiroha as their ideals.
>>569457109>Yes, and people would have to know about them to flee to them, which is what we’re talking about.Which they clearly do otherwise they wouldn't be fleeing in the first place now would they?>That is the state of the world that MMZ presents. How things were in X doesn’t mean much, because the world-sundering Elf Wars happen between the two series. Hell, is X6 even in the MMZ timeline?It's partly within the timeline. The Elf Wars was more of a huge loss of life between humans and reploids, not the environment as a whole. The Maverick Wars did that with Eurasia which X6 shows us that it isn't all wiped out. Even Zero 4 acknowledges this. Its intro states that humans have been fleeing Neo Arcadia for some time. That sort of implies that Area Zero isn't the only settlement when there's only a small caravan of humans living there, doesn't it?>It absolutely does. A big part if MMZ’s setting is that it’s a post apocalypse with Neo Arcadia as the last holdout of humanity and civilization. There just being other pockets of humanity out there that nobody ever knew about is ridiculous.The post apocalypse was during the X series. MMZ is post post apocalypse. Humanity went underground globally during the Eurasia incident and you're trying to say that all of humanity fled into one specific hole on the other side of the world and then went on to found Neo Arcadia as the only bastion of humanity's survival? Get real. >And there’s the heat. Whatever, anon.Yeah, get going. We're done here. I have no interest in engaging some attention whore on the /inti/ side of the general that just wants to segue into his perceived victimhood mentality over Zonda discussion or whatever. Just go fucking discuss it instead of bitching to me about it. I was never stopping you.
>>569457932Least sexist /inti/-poster
>>569457737>YabeJust checking. No, I didn't misinterpret shit. One quote years latter does not overrule everything beforehand. >You really do just repeat yourself, huh?I just said we've had this conversation before, anon. And so did you, in this very post. >>569458221>Which they clearly do otherwise they wouldn't be fleeing in the first place now would they?They don't because they're not fleeing to hypothetical other pockets of nature. Everyone's going to Area Zero. Are we talking in circles?>The Elf Wars was more of a huge loss of life between humans and reploids, not the environment as a whole.Oh I'm absolutely going to need citation on that. >Even Zero 4 acknowledges this. Its intro states that humans have been fleeing Neo Arcadia for some time.No it doesn't.>That sort of implies that Area Zero isn't the only settlement when there's only a small caravan of humans living there, doesn't it?No. I hope you're not implying that the Caravan is actually just a dozen or so people, that'd be silly. >Humanity went underground globally during the Eurasia incident and you're trying to say that all of humanity fled into one specific hole on the other side of the world and then went on to found Neo Arcadia as the only bastion of humanity's survival?Yes. Elf Wars, baby. That said, now that you mention it, I guess I could see there being other well-hidden holdouts. The Antarctic Union's hanging out under the south pole or something. But they'd have to be VERY well-hidden, and the Guardians definitely wouldn't know about them. >Yeah, get going. We're done here. I have no interest in engaging some attention whore on the /inti/ side of the general that just wants to segue into his perceived victimhood mentality over Zonda discussion or whatever. Just go fucking discuss it instead of bitching to me about it. I was never stopping you.God, you are so mad. Why are you so fucking mad?
>>569459768>They don't because they're not fleeing to hypothetical other pockets of nature. Everyone's going to Area Zero. Are we talking in circles?Are you? We've established that not everyone went to Area Zero multiple times which you seemingly just want to ignore for this headcanon of yours which considering where we are, I'm not too surprised. Zero 4 even establishes that it's just a small caravan of people in universe and not a limitation of the game while other humans have been fleeing else where for some time.>Oh I'm absolutely going to need citation on that.Megaman Zero.>No it doesn't.That's a lie.>No. I hope you're not implying that the Caravan is actually just a dozen or so people, that'd be silly.Why am I not shocked that you haven't played Z4?>Yes. Elf Wars, baby. >That said, now that you mention it, I guess I could see there being other well-hidden holdouts. The Antarctic Union's hanging out under the south pole or something. But they'd have to be VERY well-hidden, and the Guardians definitely wouldn't know about them.That is idiotic to think that the Guardians who serve Neo Arcadia which has been cataloging everything since the Maverick Wars where it happened would not be aware of this.
I continue holding my head canon that Copy X absolutely would not have let Weil in, and if anything would have stupidly tried to go all out and defeat him and fail
>>569459768>God, you are so mad. Why are you so fucking mad?Because you've done nothing but waste my time with goalpost moving and other nonsense.
>>569457507So both of those men were Asimov?>>569457701We do not...our asian counterpart tho...
>>569460654To FUCKING WHERE! The wold is a dead ball of sand outside Neo Arcadia and Ciel's base, that's why Zero went to investigate, because from his and Ciel's perspective this fleeing plan was suicide with extra steps.
>>569460501>We've established that not everyone went to Area Zero multiple timesNo we haven't. You saying that happened isn't establishing anything. >while other humans have been fleeing else where for some time.This is not stated anywhere. No, not in your image, that's not what those words mean. >Megaman Zero.Please show me where in Megaman Zero it states that this was some kind of magical war that wiped out most of Earth's population BUT didn't actually cause much damage otherwise. Because that's amazing. >That's a lie.No.>Why am I not shocked that you haven't played Z4?You gonna make a point there or just leave it at a little jab? >That is idiotic to think that the Guardians who serve Neo Arcadia which has been cataloging everything since the Maverick Wars where it happened would not be aware of this.The Yabe quote that floats the possibility of there being humans elsewhere states that they're out of range of Neo Arcadia's sensors. Which means yes, the Guardians aren't aware of them. I'm glad you agree that this is idiotic. >>569460654I don't even know what this image is supposed to refute. Are you trying to say this means there's other places they're fleeing too besides Area Zero? It doesn't. And you didn't get pissed until I mentioned Zonda, so no, it's not any of that.
>>569459768You're talking to another anon, and I decided to chime in, because I saw you repeating the same shit as we've talked about last time. Funny, seeing more people butt against your headcanon>One quote years latter does not overrule everything beforehand. That's cute, considering this whole conversation stems from "one quote years later" in a printwork - pretty easy to write shit off, huh?. So anyways, Yabe's quote corroborates the subsequent revision that 'The guardians could be out there helping humanity', and so there's more evidence in favor of this outcome.
>>569461584>To FUCKING WHERE!That's not elaborated on.>>569461689This is just turned into "no u".>filenameI had a feeling that it was you and if I had known prior, I would've just ignored you like I always do from the get go. Now leave me alone. I've humored you long enough and I shant any longer.
>>569457076I just assume the game is being dumb and they're fine. Adepts are all supposed to be super soldiers anyway, right?
>>569411628>>569415713The asshole here, yes, I was referring to the JP dub. Found an XCI file of the trilogy and all three games are voiced. It was very good.
>>569457076This. I preferred Gunvolt and Copen. They were sanctimonious hypocrites too, but the game seemed aware of it. They were on the right side, but GV still blew up innocents and destroyed more than he needed to, by his own admission, and Copen lives only for genocide. And they'd get sob stories thrown at them and make fun of the villains for it before killing them and then feeling good about it. It felt very aware what it was doing. Sympathetic people doing bad stuff vs unsympathetic people doing right.
>>569462027>You're talking to another anon, and I decided to chime inI know, anon. That doesn't matter.>That's cute, considering this whole conversation stems from "one quote years later" in a printwork - pretty easy to write shit off, huh?I don't follow. >>569462185>That's not elaborated on.How convenient. >This is just turned into "no u"....it has? How?>I had a feeling that it was you and if I had known prior, I would've just ignored you like I always do from the get go. I don't know what your beef is with me specifically, but why'd it take you two filenames to realize that? >Now leave me alone. I've humored you long enough and I shant any longer.For real this time, I'm sure. You gave up on the argument, though, so I guess I can believe you.
>>569462896>I don't followThe whole conversation regarding the fate of the Guardians stems from a blurb in a printwork saying they jobbed to the Omega explosion, don't play dumb.
>>569463193That was from the OCW, which released right after Z4. I think that's more trustworthy than whatever Capcom rep said 'the guardians could be out there helping humanity' or Yabe in...where even was his quote? 20+5? I forget, but it was way latter.
>>569463762>implying you can trust anything involving MMZ
>>569463762>That was from the OCW...which was preceded by the statement that they still had adventures in store for the Guardians - the ORIGINAL statement, that was then retconned into them dying in the complete works, and then got retconned again, saying they still might be out there. Hey, remember when we had this conversation before?There are like, three statements in favor of them either being alive, or walking back them being dead, and you choose some the odd one out to build your beliefs around.So like, I've got to know, did you piss, and shit, and screech when the devs said they still had ideas planned for the Guardians, PRIOR to the OCW saying they were dead?>NOOO THEY SHOULD HAVE DIED IN THAT EXPLOSION AUGGHH THAT'S WHY THEY WEREN'T IN Z4it's all so funny, you twist and squirm when presented with opposing statements, >downplaying developer statements that corroborate other Word of God statements, as being less trustworthy>while at the same time adhering to a gospel of an unattributed quote>Making appeals to age of comments, when there are OLDER statements that go against your headcanonBAHGOD IT'S YABE FROM THE TOP TURNBUCKLE, HEADC-ANON IS DOWN. SWANTONSWANTONSWANTON
THE SAME FIVE CONVERSATIONS! THE SAME FIVE CONVERSATIONS! THE GENERAL, THEY HAVE THE SAME FIVE CONVERSATIONS
>>569464335Jesus fucking christ you sound like such a massive douche. >...which was preceded by the statement that they still had adventures in store for the Guardians - the ORIGINAL statementWhere was that?
>>569443641As the "horny /mmg/" thread I must know: which of the girls between MM and Gunvolt has the most sensitive nipples
>>569465146The one that got impaled by a spike
>>569464769If you want to have a different one then start it.Please.
>>569461287>We do not...our asian counterpart tho...They really didn't take kindly to Joule getting abused so much in GV2 so it can't be said Quinn is particularly popularIt's not that they hate Quinn herself as far as I know, but simply that they didn't like the whole heroine replacement concept
>>569465341If by spike you mean my cock, then Zonda it is
>>569465146>GunvoltElise. Don't ask why. >MMMarino. One of the many red flags raised before she fled her modeling gig.
>>569464952>You sound like such a massive doucheYeah sorry, I tend to get that way when going over the same discussion for the seventh fucking time Imagine how awful I'll be on the 8th>This time, we’ve brought in the Rockman Zero 4 development team to answer this question.>Thank you very much for your passionate support of the Shitennou.>To tell you the truth, at first our plan was for Zero and the Shitennou to conduct their final decisive battle in Rockman Zero 3, a coup de grâce to be the crowning glory in the climax. However, all of the developers had gotten really attached to the Shitennou and their strong character, and several of us felt “It’s such a shame for the Shitennou to end up defeated like that!” So that’s why they wound up appearing in Rockman Zero 3 the way they did.Stating they didn't want to kill them in z3>Then Rockman Zero 4 rolls around, and due to Vile’s “Operation Ragnarok”, everyone in the world and the very future of mankind is in crisis. Even though they are bitter rivals, the Shitennou just wouldn’t be able to go chasing Zero around as they please in a situation like this.>They are first and foremost “soldiers born for the sake of defending humans,” you see. So perhaps at the same time Zero was fighting his battle, they were off in other locations waging their own struggle to protect the humans.THE HEoriginal statement saying they're off fighting their own battles to protect humans>Honestly, we all regret not having been able to depict what happens next with the Shitennou in Rockman Zero 4, but at least this way all the Shitennou supporters out there have made their voices heard and let us know how popular they really are. >We can’t promise anything now, but someday if the opportunity arises to report the adventures of the Shitennou to all you users in some form, we would like very much to do just thatJune 23, 2005, a year before the OCW.
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>>569465556Spike as in spike. I guess Zonda gets the Vlad treatment.
>>569462254Depends what you define as a super soldier. An US marine elite on every one of them is fair to assume but don't expect that everybody will be capitain Diomedes. It's why Copen does what he does, because killing the average adept is not that different from killing a normal human. >>569462185That's not elaborated on.It is by the previous games, they had nowhere to run.
>>569464769but wha eef eden guuhd
>>569464769Ok then, name them!
>>569466242Eden is good because of how sexy Zonda is; I don't make the rules, it's simply facts
>>569466153I assume that they're going to be a lot tougher and quicker than a normal human on average, especially with the body armor.
>>569465827Huh. I'm not sure I ever saw that. That is a much more believable possibility then them leaving Neo Arcadia entirely and/or hanging out with lore-breaking foreign humans. Thanks, anon, that's something to think about. >I tend to get that way when going over the same discussion for the seventh fucking time Imagine how awful I'll be on the 8thI really hope you're not actually keeping track. That's terrifying. See, that's what I mean. Zondafags keep talking about their thing, we keep talking about our thing, nobody's got any room to cast stones. Hey, did you know the black stuff on Aile is her skin?
>>569465609>Elise. Don't ask why.Because we all know why.
>Neo Arcadia is both the world's government and a group of city-domes where a lot of the human population lives>There are other settlements beyond the domes where humans live too but those are also Neo Arcadia territory; exact environment conditions there are unclear but probably dependent on tech and certainly not a place to try to flee from Weil's grasp in the main domes to>Area Zero is an exceptional case for both how much nature is abundant and it being outside of Neo Arcadia's normal sphere of influence, so it was the only area the caravan could go toIs this really hard to understand?
>>569466667I wasn't even thinking of that.
I want to be Elise now for very horny reasons
>>569466810But muh headcanon.
>Scenario 2: Dash! Dash! Dan Dan Da Dan!Victory Condition: Defeat all enemies; Defeat Icy PenguigoDefeat Condition: X is defeatedSR Point: Clear map within 4 turns.Secret Requirements: - Heart Tank: Move X to second igloo at the top of the map Unit Acquisition:- X can now Dash
>>569466838>>569466667>presenting (back arched)>perky nipplesYou could tell she was super horny when fighting GV.Also, her dialogue portrait has the perky nips as well, but it's cut off in game. She remains the only female with visibly hard nipples in Gunvolt.
>>569466810>There are other settlements beyond the domes where humans live too but those are also Neo Arcadia territory; exact environment conditions there are unclear but probably dependent on tech and certainly not a place to try to flee from Weil's grasp in the main domes toCitation needed, though I'm not sure what difference it makes.
>>569467004Lola does a bit when in darkness mode actually
>>569466667>>569467004Would she have calmed her shit down if she had gotten laid
>>569467162That's the good timeline.
>>569467275I think it only would've worked if you got to her when she was a girlfailure and not a Sumeragi test subject.
>>569467757What if you completely dominate both of her personalities though
>>569467113I thought the existence of other settlements was written down somewhere, but it seems to have been my own headcanon based on Neige talking about traveling around the world and meeting Craft.
>>569467757That's quitter talk.>>569467815You only have to dominate Evilise. Elise is for lovey-dovey vanilla.
>>569467815Might be ok. I like the idea of them breaking out of sumeragi cus Elise's new schizo voices want to find their old lay too.
>>569467004You know, it just occurred to meDo you think Elise practices poledancing in the Sumeragi outfit given what her fight is like
>>569467976Well yeah. The scientists threw yen at her and everything. It's why she was seething at them.
>>569467843That's fair. The state of the world in MMZ has always been kind of vague beyond the broad strokes.
>>569468118Wish that were me
Do you prefer siblings or romance?
>>569468362Maybe if you play enough MMOs you too can be sex trafficked into becoming a schizo sci fi magical girl in a skintight suit too one day.
>>569468550it's over for me
>>569467815So remind me, what's the deal with the third personality. Was that just stapled on top of Fail Elise and Dom Elise after they died the first time? Or was it crazy that did everything and left Fail and Dom to hold the bag in the first stage?
>>569468752Those are rookie numbers. Failise was watching concerts in her game. Living her whole life in them. Nut up and work harder to live out your sexpest fantasy!
>>569468797Crazy Elise was the second one. Dom Elise was implanted into her by Sumeragi to manage the other two. Dom let Crazy out of the cage just as they died the first time on a gambit that she'd revive them later.
>>569469019>Dom let Crazy out of the cage just as they died the first time on a gambit that she'd revive them later.Submissive Elise embraces the peace of death, while dominant Elise is all "No, no, I don't want to die...!" It's very sad.
I do not give a fuck about your retarded STD snake
>>569466549>Hey, did you know the black stuff on Aile is her skin?It's not really the same thing, nor is it treated with the same cultural hang ups.
>>569451643Sure I'll try it
>>569468303Not in that area. That's why the area zero was such a big deal.
>>569467004Nah, that's just a thing her adept genes do. Poor girl is always perky all the time. No wonder she's so insecure.
>>569468437both.
>>569469945>nor is it treated with the same cultural hang ups.I've been saying that for years. It's an important point to make.>>569470875Correct.
>>569464769Not true>Zonda and her Eden hijinxs >Kirin dog fucking antics >Localization screwed up >Lev >Copium over Lev getting the secret Servbot handshake >Yohane crab fishing adventures >Lusting over Roll>Female adept antics and genocide >Cope(n) posting >BMZ is still the best Inti series >Capcom newest shitty way to milk Mega Man >Majogami should have done better >Gacha apologia >Ratty hedgefounds And that's for just today, otherwise genie butts and cube talks get into the mix too.
>>569471374>Copium over Lev getting the secret Servbot handshakewhat does that even mean
>>569471374kys rollposter
>>569468550That'd be the dream
>>569471374>his furfaggotry and bullshit after the reverse happened are the subjects of the generalNo wonder it's so shit here.
>>569471374>otherwise genie butts and cube talks get into the mix too.Nobody talks about "genie butts" besides the pajeet which is ironic considering you retards will talk about literally anything offtopic except this apparently.
>>569468437Yeah, both.
>>569471037>>569475649Go back to being dead, Cyan. You can reincarnate into being Juan's daughter and try to hit on him again then.
>>569475832>"GET BACK IN THE GRAVE, JOULE!" said Kirin calmlyHmm, nyo.The existence of GV1 Lumen implies our Joulie is alive and well.
Sex theory: Lola is fully capable of sexual desire, but isn't able to properly stimulate herself due to not having a physical bodyDarkness mode isn't actually any sort of special power, it's just her being so pent up she goes into a frenzy in a desperate attempt to blow off steam
>>569471516That she blew up.
>>569477581>Lola is fully capable of sexual desireAnother gift from Zonda?
>>569474038>Still thinking is just one guy And the genie butts must be unleashed only when the world needs them the most. AKA to curstomp yaoi talks.
>>569484180Well I mean Rollnigger (you) and the pajeet which you may as well be the same guy since you're both brown and retarded subhumans.
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>Shartaejeet kills the threadWow shocker.
>>569433542Was it a failure in writing or the fandom that made most of the fans see Nova and Zonda as nazis and hate GV feeling regret? Does this place only think differently because of contrarianism?
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>>569495696Both. Absolutely a failure in writing, but this place also only thinks differently because the enemies are made up of mostly cute girls they want to fuck.Nova is a douchebag extremist utterly corrupted by hubris who justifies ruthless oppression, human experimentation and brainwashing to accomplish his goal. That being his stance that he DESERVES to be the omnipotent ruler meant to dictate the fate of the world and you can all just seethe about it. And no matter how much you try to argue semantics, Zonda was still a misanthrope who views ordinary humans as being beneath her and shows zero remorse or compassion when having to hurt or eliminate them to achieve her goals. If she was meant to be a misunderstood rebel fighting against an oppressive society that wished to annihilate her, then it didn't come through at all. Rather just a genocidal maniac who never showed remorse or doubt, even as her own found family perished around her.>or the fandom You can not blame the audience. It is the author's sole responsibility to be concise and show clarity with the story which he wants to tell.
>>569495696>failure in writing or the fandomBoth. Ignoring their age just a number in anime until it isn't and designs, the only way you can get a sympathetic read on Nova and Zonda are through the supplementary material (which 95% of players will never touch). Otherwise, you aren't going to want to redeem them because you're only getting their worst, most inhuman sides. For the regret arc to land well, GV3 almost demands that you're familiar with that content, otherwise it's just bizarre, and you're going to have Kirin's reaction, which is to say "Why you feeling bad, they were scumbags, feel good."It'd be the equivalent of limiting your perspective to Jota in the run-up to his confrontation with GV. You wouldn't get any of GV's positive aspects or the nuances of the conflict, just the ice-cold terrorist blowing shit up.And then you throw bad localization on top. Most of the non-JP fanbase see Nova as an antihero nowadays because INTI fixed the translation, but not Zonda; she's just a selfish prick.But the fans are also retards too who want to read the story like it's Mega Man X.>because of contrarianismWe like recycled arguments.
>>569497589>That being his stance that he DESERVES to be the omnipotent ruler meant to dictate the fate of the world and you can all just seethe about it.Nova is leader of Sumeragi. He experimented on Gunvolt. He planned Project Muse. He did everything. He was in absolute control, all because he wanted to be GOD KING. Same as ZONDA.Nova was a patsy, a middle manager. You don't ever touch any of the actual Sumeragi elite in GV1. Project Muse was not to Nova's benefit. And Nova is only a douchebag when dealing with Gunvolt because GV pushes his abandonment issue buttons and has a very casual attitude towards murder. Else, he's a nice guy who abhors violence and likes when people are happy, even if he drinks the Sumeragi koolaid.>shows zero remorse or compassion when having to hurt or eliminate them to achieve her goals.lol, her cadence starts faltering when she talks about how they can't coexist. That, and her reaction to the Seven dying or her own death are some of the few times her calm routine cracks even a little. She's a hard character to read because she's so poised when in priestess mode.>Rather just a genocidal maniac who never showed remorse or doubt, even as her own found family perished around her.Her last fucking lines are all regret at losing utopia and failing her brother.Well, hopefully GX or GV4 clears it up. Or maybe people just screech about retcons. I'll go with that.
>>569497881>For the regret arc to land wellThe regret arc couldn't ever land well, not in the way Inti presented it. In the context of the games, Gunvolt did literally nothing wrong.If they wanted him to feel regret they should've turned him into X; Yearning for peace and holding the belief that violence solves nothing, never regretting what he did, only that it had to be done. Gunvolt fights for what is right, it highligts his willingness to fight relentlessly to protect humans and adepts alike, even if it causes him inner turmoil to kill his own kind.That's the kind of 'regret' arc people would've accepted broadly. Not>oh, Kirin-dono, Moebius-sama, I'm such a hecking little faggot bastard who did everything wrong. Please, allow me to naked dogeza and suck the dicks of my old foes so that I may repent all my mistakes!
>>569499240GV felt good about killing kids. Hard to walk that back.
>>569499341The fuck cares what their ages were or how they looked. This place gets hung up too much about 130 cms. They were evil. They deserved it. Anime kids aren't actually kids, they're just short adults. Treat them like adults. Stop feeling bad for them just because they're cute and small. They're adults!
>>569499341So did Guts, and he still turned into group daddy.This is character development 101, you start out as a douche and you turn into something resembling a human.
>>569499490Exactly. There's a reason why Gunvolt refers to Zonda (11) and Merak (13) as a woman and man, whereas Quinn (16) is called a girl, and that all comes down to mental ages. I wouldn't feel any regret in killing an evil man or woman, but I would a child, but none of the people Gunvolt and Copen kills are children.
>>569499813>>569499490>this againThe Jap narration literally calls all of them children. Zonda is called a young girl in her blurb and stage intro. Copen and Gunvolt are referred to has youths/boys. Try again.>>569499742But you're arguing that it's based that he felt that way since they were evil.
>>569499984>But you're arguing that it's based that he felt that way since they were evil.No. I'm saying in the context of the games he did nothing wrong.And even IF he felt good about it, they could still use that aspect to develop his character in the opposite direction. Turning him into a henpecked cuck was NOT the way forward and Inti rightly deserves flak for that.
>>569500435Yeah, limited to the context of the games, you're right, but the games have unreliable narration. Like a quick example would be how Asimov's alcoholism is never noticed by GV, but it gets picked up on in more neutral perspectives.
>>569499240X's regrets are even more retarded. The maverick virus is basically demonic possession. Once it takes root in a reploid, they become a twisted shell of who they once were. There's only one (1) reploid that recovered from the virus before the invention of ELFs, and that's Zero, and his case was exceptional as the literal Patient Zero of the virus.
>>569500868Gunvolt himself isn't an unreliable narrator, but Asimov sure is. He's the one who controls the narrative and shapes GV's worldview of Quill & Sumeragi. Ours too for that matter, as everything (We) experience is through the trusting lens of Gunvolt who never had a reason to doubt his literal father figure until he decides to show up and shit all over GV's happy ending.I don't remember a single instance of Asimov and Alcohol being brought up in the game.
I'm here for more horny Zonda questions, what do you think Zonda's favorite kink is
>>569499240>hecking little faggot bastard who did everything wrongYeah, he failed to protect Joule. At the end of the day, stopping Project Muse or Eden was always an intermediate goal in protecting Joule. He killed and sacrificed so much, and it amounted, from his perspective, to nothing.He was manipulated by Asimov to fuck up the parts of Sumeragi that were actually keeping society from sliding into a hellhole while leaving the super fucked up parts, like the science division, standing. A lot of his actions resulted in collateral damage, shown in the anime by the blackout he causes across the city or Asimov's missions. Everyone called him a terrorist for a reason. Even he eventually did by the time the second game rolls around, and it's one of the reasons he has such a strong reaction to Eden. Finally, he could have laid lowed with Joule, but he decided to take on hitjobs against Sumeragi for months, leading to Sumeragi eventually tracking Joule down.In the second game, not a lot he could have done against Eden, even if Eden are way more sympathetic than Sumeragi. Still, he was manipulated again, this time by Xiao, although Xiao was manipulating everyone, including Nori and Eden. I guess the only knock against GV in the second game would be that his tone towards killing was less "this is fucked, but necessary" and more "hope you enjoy hell you bastards," even towards the super cute/tragic characters. I guess maybe in both cases, he could have done more looking into alternative options other than "kick in the front door, kill everything that moves." It's good for winning wars, but not for the peace that follows.
>>569502754Vanilla
>>569502575Copen is the obvious example of unreliable narration (inb4 "He's right, he doesn't go far enough, he should skin, torture and vivisect Mytyl, Joule, and Zonda and set up torture/death camps for all adepts" from the Copefags).
>>569502754Thinking about it, Zonda would probably really be into the feeling of being chained up and helpless if there were somehow Greed Snatcher infused bindings that disabled her Septima.
>>569502754Looking at what she did to Lola:Vanilla.Adept/Mino.I can fix him.But she'd probably be into everything else as well, so long as it involves L O V E.
>>569503310Isn't that radiant fetters?
Question, how much of a gray area is the sexuality if I want to have Zonda in his male form as a drinking body for a few hours only to take her back to a suite and relentlessly fuck her silly after she transforms back to her true form
>>569503895Like the other 130 cm girls, her projections are independent of her true body. So she probably would not get drunk.
>>569503580Technically yes, but there's a bit of a discrepancy here: sealing powers is one thing, a binding tool that only seals powers while they're restricting the movement of the owner of said powers is another. Radiant Fetters could potentially be used to make said handcuffs, but it isn't the Septima in and of itself.
>>569504091Aww, that's a shame
>Zonda is short for her age>her female projection is tall and well developed>her Reverie form gains huge leggings to make her look taller and more matureIs this a subtle indication that she shares Joule, Layla, and Mytyl's desires to be tall and well-developed too?
>>569504776I don't know but she's perfect as is, and I want to give her enough love that she understands thatEspecially love of the sexual variety
>>569505310Older Zonda would be the hottest girl in Gunvolt. Did you know that one of the early muse designs looked a bit like her? The mysterious one has her unique eyes.
>>569505619I disagree, because current Zonda is the hottest girl in Gunvolt and any change to her body or face would be a downgradeNeat fact though, didn't know about that
>>569505619> unique eyes.Not anymore. >>569505737How do you feel about her Joulification over time? You can't even argue it's art evolution, because everyone else has unique faces (especially eyes). They purposefully made Zonda's face more like Joule and Mytyl's.
>>569505995And here's a closer look.
>>569505995I'd say that's more of an artstyle evolution than a character change given that basically everyone has a less sharp face now, but I consider it a slight downgradeIt's cute and I still want to ruthlessly fuck her until she's a drooling, quivering mess, but the new style is missing the slight sultry look that complemented her cute and depraved aesthetic
>>569499742>This is character development 101, you start out as a douche and you turn into something resembling a human.I can almost guarantee everyone would hate that in a game.
>>569505995Actually looking at this again holy shit, Zonda looks slightly worse but she still looks "right", there's something about how Lola looks here that just looks inherently wrong and I can't put my finger on it and it really bothers me
You know, I know this has been mentioned a lot by various people here but I really hate the post-iX1 art direction change, a lot of characters blend together more since everyone has a soft look instead of just the actually soft characters
>>569506854On the contrary, people absolutely adore redemption arcs or "bad" characters learning humility. Even in our own fandom people tend to like iX Copen more than God Emperor Copen.
>>569507635They "adore" the idea but in practice people hate it.
>>569507612It's a direct downgrade, some of the characters looks derpy as fuck. There is one poster/wallscroll merch with Joule where she looks egregiously bad.
>>569507950People love it when it is earned. It's cathartic to watch a flawed character genuinely struggle and confront their past mistakes. Rising above circumstances and all that.People despise it when the author cheapens out and uses it as a narrative shortcut where the character is just instantly forgiven, because it feels like the author reaches out from behind the screen and demands that you accept their perfect little creation despite it being entirely undeserved.When it's done well it's almost universally compelling. These types of characters are always amongst the most loved.
>>569508892>People love it when it is earnedAnd therein lies the problem. People in general have varying degrees of how "it's earned". Hell you had GOW do exactly what you're saying and people were bitching about it.
>>569502754[weigth difference] [age difference] [minos male] [hand holding] [impregnation]
>>569506164>>569505995I think it was around either Eden's Party or Strikers that they started giving Zonda softer featured. Specifically, they started making her eyes tareme (droopy) instead of tsurime (upturned).*------------* On anime eye tropes:> Characters with tareme タレ目 tend to be cute, docile, frail, gentle anime girls. They tend to care and get worried about others, and dislike fighting, quarrels, and confrontation, which means they're easily persuaded into doing things and dragged around. As one would expect, not all tareme characters have these traits, but characters that have these traits usually also have tareme eyes.>Characters with tsurime ツリ目 eyes tend to be strong and assertive. They don't hold back at starting fights. They're either serious about something, full of conviction, or are scheming and sadistic. In any case, these are eyes convey hostility. The tsurime eyes are also considered to be cooler and more mature-looking. Cooler in the Terminator 2 kind of cooler.
>>569499240Not quite the same. X cries crocodile tears whenever he has to do it but no so deep down he sees every reploid as a lesser parody of him and loves killing them in the name of his humans masters. Also Juan Voltios regret comes as fake because the moment he would have taken over the throne and rules with undisputed might, what the moment the bloodsheed would have stopped, iX2 shows this. So unlike X, most of Gunvolt's murders were from his direct actions.
>>569510115>>569506345Although, even some of the art in the OCW shows her with more tareme eyes.
>>569407393Mega Man W is out now:https://megamanw.com/
>>569510264>loves killingAnd that's how you know he's making shit up again.
>>569509898Most of the bitching about GoW, at least on /v/, is how Kratos isn't a real man because a real man takes what he wants with no regard for others and likes hurting the weak. They want more Poseidon pleasure slave incidents.
>>569510431I'm not talking about /v/.
>>569510384Sorry anon, Teppen is a thing that will forever taint X character unless Capcom goes under and someone better takes over.
>>569510384Isn't Zero the one who likes killing? X is neutral towards it in most cases.
>>569510835Not even TEPPEN had the bullshit you spew.
>>569510857Copy X shows how X would be if he had not spend 80 years getting lobotomized.
I'm good at making up shit that seems feasibly true, give me literally any Zonda question and I'll try to give an interesting answer
>>569510857Less killing and more fighting but even then Zero does try getting reploids to stop fighting but he has far less patience in trying to talk them down than X does
>>569511034The final arc is X finally letting go, just to find out that he never was the master of his mind and/or body.
>>569509898Like the other guy I'm a bit confused. We had a few soi memes on 4chan, but outside this echo chamber Kratos' change in character was met with widespread critical acclaim. I can understand missing the older over-the-top brutality, but the general consensus is that the deeper, more grounded storytelling was better than Kratos, who had a history of indiscriminately killing everyone, started a monumental spergout all because his own family got indiscriminately killed.
>>569510835>>569511034TEPPEN does show you how X would react to adepts.
>>569511369Adept fucking shits aren't human.
>>569510431No they shit on Kratos because he gets bossed around by a black woman (who is also the one who birth all human misery according to norse mithology so based on accident) while being a punching bag for every female character he comes across. The only character who got it even worse than him was Sol Badguy who basically because the embodiment of male guilt of the game's creator.
>>569511490That's right. Roro is 3 laws compliant.
>>569510115The hips on that Roro.
>>569510264>iX2 shows thisShows what? That Copen is so committed to his crusade that he'll literally wipe out all organic life on Earth? Maybe you meant iX1?
>>569511139How would her regime would have been if she had compleated the plan the stars had for her and doki doki nuked Japan?
>>569510857X will try to disarm the situation, but absolutely follow through.Zero will cut right to the chase.
>>569511369He'd just see them as humans, but he kills bad superpowered humans in TEPPEN. Would he kill Adepts? Considering a lot of them are kids, you'd have to really push him. They'd have to actively be endangering other people for him to go for a kill. Else, you'd get X playing psychologist for a bunch of super powered teens. Even adepts like Merak and Gibril would get a stun shot and then arrested if possible. If he can't talk them down, stun them, or tire them out, well, he's not just going to let them run free, so escalation of force up to killing, although unlike GV or Copen, it would fuck him up emotionally.>>569511490X classifies Resident Evil BOWs as "human." He has a very broad definition of what counts as human.
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>>569512167>X classifies Resident Evil BOWs as "human.">if it came from humanity it's humanLimbus-tier qualifications of humanity I see.
>>569512167>Even adepts like MerakNot the best example. Merak never chimped out. He was working to keep adept criminals oppressed. In his own universe he's the closest thing to a Maverick hunter, so he and X more likely to see eye to eye if anything.
>>569512012Legitimately I think that's up to chance; it would probably start off terrible for minos, but it's highly likely Zonda would eventually see a pair of young siblings who had their lives ruined by Eden's actions and the guilt would start eating away at her given her experiences with TenjianOver time it would only get worse as the number of cases increased, and the guilt would get bad enough that Zonda would eventually do a full 180 and push for something that's more fair for both groups; it is possible that Tenjian would try to convince her otherwise, which result in either an internal conflict in Eden or for Tenjian to back down after enough desperate pleading from ZondaEssentially, if you survived past the first year or two there's a good chance that you'd actually have a better living environment than before Eden took control of society; the problem is surviving that long would be a legitimate challenge given Eden's initial goal
>fanfic hours
>>569513812Okay to be fair, I said I'm good at making shit up and I'd try to answer any question that people had for me about ZondaI was expecting some stupid shit, not "what would this entire reality be like" kek
>>569510369Box art included in the game folder.
>>569512415More like X is the kind of cop who will gun down the suspect because he tried to lock his phone before giving it, and then he will gun down another 72 other people and an exotic zoo animal, then make a victory pose and go back to the station.
>>569514648This was for >>569512071
>>569511959iX2 starts with>Blade is in charge now and because nobody is stupid enough to mess up with an Azure Striker things are going very smootly after Asimov died.
>>569409963>new characters>new designs for the old onesWay too much effort for just some throwaway piece for a magazine, this is 100% a teaser for a new mainline game, I believe.
>>569514648While yelling "Please stop!! :(" at every charge shot.
>>569512012nta, but her plan was to empower adepts with a global Anthem. She and Gunvolt both assumed this would lead to a global revolution and race war that would kill all nonadepts. This likely wouldn't happen. Most adepts probably aren't genocidal, and there are many of them who wouldn't be happy to see their nonadept family members exterminated. You'd still have a lot of revenge killings and societies would collapse from teens being handed incredible power, but nonadepts would still be around. As for Zonda herself, she'd probably go crazier or completely catatonic with depression. It fits with her Alice in Wonderland theme. She lost her entire family, and she's coping hard by thinking that they're "living" inside the mirror shards. When that illusion gets shattered, it won't be pretty. Her utopia is also going to be shit, as adepts allowed to "do whatever they want" turn the world into a worse shitshow. It's all going to come tumbling down for her, and she will crash out, and it will be worse than GV post-victory crash out, or she'll double down on the self-delusions, like Copen, or she'll do both, like Nova.>>569499240Nova has always been the closest to X.
Which GV/MM chick do you want to spank the most
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levbros......
>>569516070>Nova has always been the closest to X.Absolutely not.Copy-X? Sure. Self-righteous rulers who both hold a deep grudge and sense of inferiority toward the blasting blue hero (Gunvolt and original X) who both fought for TRUE equality.Even comparing him to X is a massive disrespect.
>>569516070>You'd still have a lot of revenge killings and societies would collapse from teens being handed incredible powerThe US collapsed even without that. Also how would that even play out in places like worst Korea where only 0.02 of the population even has children?
>>569516301Good choice, she's high on my list too
>>569516371Zero crashes into the Lev-sphere all day.
>>569516184>Perfect butt for spanking >Too much of a perfect daughterwife to give (you) an excuse to do it
People talk a lot about wanting to fuck Zonda or spank Zonda or whatever else but nobody talks about wanting to give her a smooch, girl needs some pure love too
>>569517481That comes AFTER the correction.
>>569516371lev sphere, weapon to surpass rock cube...
>>569517678Not mutually exclusive for me, sneak up on her and keep her in a French kiss for 20+ minutes while pinching her nipples with the other hand until her eyes are glazed over
>>569516184I'll spank Luna until she passes out. She won't be able to sit for weeks after I'm done with her.
>>569516184If I'm in a position where she somehow already likes me, ZondaOtherwise, Kohaku or Pandora
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>>569516070>It fits with her Alice in Wonderland theme. She lost her entire family, and she's coping hard by thinking that they're "living" inside the mirror shardsRemember that she's not just Alice but also the Queen of Hearts, who was known for having an army of card soldiers. They are "alive" in a sense. The Tenjian illusion was able to hold a normal conversation and had all his memories.
>>569516684a) Nova abhors violence and wishes for a world where everyone could be happy. GV is neutral towards violence at best, and wants a world where his enemies are punished/dead, at least before GV3.b) Nova is a cop, GV is a terrorist. I can point to blowing up the biochemical plant or media tower in GV1. Everyone, even the fellow terrorists in Eden and GV himself, called GV a terrorist.c) Nova introspects, GV takes the attitude that you should never look inward or back, as that is a weakness that could destroy you. He compares it to the myth of Orpheus looking back and losing everything, and then vows to only focus on the present and future.d) Because of Asimov's indoctrination, GV views mercy as hesitation and hesitation as weakness. Nova is shown to beat people up and arrest or recruit them, outside of cases like Gunvolt, who are too lethal and willing to kill.e) Nova shows uncertainty and regret, saying that he hates the glaives, the oppression, and Project Muse, but it's the least bad option. He delusionally says that maybe their can be some reforms after PM's completion, so the heavy-handedness may be loosened. He also questions the higher ups, and hides that he isn't fully sealed from them. GV sees himself as totally in the right and his enemies beyond redemption, and never shows any regret until after the conflict is over.Also, GV doesn't really fight for equality. He flip-flops between extremes. In GV1, he's extremely pro-adept, but in GV2, very anti-adept. He says he wants coexistence, but he blames one side for ALL of the problems. In GV1, it's those nonadepts and their adept slaves in Sumeragi oppressing the powerless adepts. In GV2, he says that adepts are the ones who have turned the world into hell and caused all racial conflict, and that if adepts just laid down, then the nonadepts would stop oppressing them. He basically spends the game victim blaming Eden, it's hilarious. It's never "both sides bad and need to compromise" until GV3.
>>569519560All of this reads like fanfiction that never shows up in game.
>>569516184How come she was not the first pick?
>>569519736The Nova stuff is from Justice Rage. https://gunvolt.miraheze.org/wiki/Justice_Rage/Scripts#tabber-English_translationYou should give it a read/listen. Maybe use Google Translate to compare with the fantranslations, as they're wonky. It and Eden's Party are crucial to understanding Nova and Zonda, and they're pretty good. Better than the main games, in fact.
>>569520258>It and Eden's Party are crucial to understanding Nova and Zonda, and they're pretty good.I still can't believe that they put something as huge as Lola feelings for Copen being a result of the influence from Zonda's love in a Drama CD interview. We can't write it off either, as it makes a lot of the differences between iX Lola and mainline Lola/Mother make so much more sense. I will forever be annoyed about that. There's also lore about Nori's pendant glaives locked away in it (it's what allows Lola to be a living, breathing adept for a day). There's just so much stuff that feels like it would make the story 10x better locked away in these things.
>>569521370I actually vaguely remember this CD albeit not all the details, it was cute
>>569516962>The US collapsed even without that.One of the ambiguous things in Gunvolt is how much responsibility do adepts have for the shitshow the world is in? A lot of the dystopian features of the Gunvolt setting seemed baked in, adepts or no adepts. It was already in a pretty bad state when there were only a few adepts around. Looking around at the current trajectory of the real world, it may turn out that adepts actually made things better in some ways by being such a disruption and catalyst for change.
Are these ling-winded posts copypastas or what
>>569519736It is essentially fanfiction.
>>569524651Never seen an online argument?
>>569524651GV3 Nova pulls from Justice Rage, so no, it's not fanfiction. You're probably one of the people who complained he was OoC because he wasn't a gigantic sadistic douchebag or something.
>>569524568I'm sorry due to this not being relevant to what you're saying but this art gives me an extreme desire to be Lola and spend an entire day doing nothing but giving thighjobs
>>569525256It is OOC because GV3 sucks. If this was GV1 Nova, he'd have just mocked and laughed at GV. Nova is an evil and egotistic sonofabitch without a shred of decency in him. He's not going to back down, he has to die.
>>569514648More like you're making shit up again.
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>>569525480>Nova is egotistic and evilA result of the armed phenomenon, just like a lot of the other adepts you meet:Nova:宝剣で変身すると...トランスというのかな...気分はやたら高揚するというか...そんな風にならないかい? 上は否定しているけど...まるで...自分のエゴは剥き出しになるみたいで...あの感覚はどうも苦手だね.>Nova: When you transform using the Glaive—I suppose you could call it a "trance"?—Or you could say it's.. incredibly euphoric? Don't you feel the same? The brass deny it, but... it feels almost as if... your ego is laid completely bare. Fuh, I really hate that sensation.A lot of the egotism is cope too from his trauma at the labs. The scientists, people he saw as parental figures, abandoned him in favor of GV. That's why he's so obsessed:Scientist:紫電君でも駄目となると...残りの被検体も厳しいだろうな...嫌... わずかに可能性があるとすれば... もう1人...あの金髪の少年... 確か, 名前は...Shiden:嫌だ... 雷撃の蒼き雷霆 (アームドブルー) は僕の物だ!誰にも渡さない...! 渡すもんか!お願い...僕を見捨てないで...!僕が...! 僕こそがガンヴォルトなんだ...! >Sumeragi Scientist: If not even Nova can, it'll be hard for the other subjects to succeed...No... There's one other, who could have a slight chance. That blonde boy. His name is-->Young Nova: No... The Azure Striker... is MINE! I won't give it to you...! I won't give it up to anyone...! Please...! Don’t abandon me...! I...! I am Gunvolt...!Finally, his stance on Project Muse:Shiden:理想なんて, 綺麗な物じゃないさ...ディーヴァープロジェクトは...今出来る限りの最善策妥協策でしかない…理想だっていうのなら...誰も傷つかない方策がいいに決まっている...けど... そんな物は戯言だ.Jota:これは... 出過ぎた事を言っていましたか?Shiden:嫌... 君のような賛同者がいてくれて...僕は嬉しいんだ.彼... デイトナさんも...君みたいに二つ返事ならいいんだけど... >Nova: An ideal built upon *that* isn't a pretty thing... The Diva Project is merely the best possible course of action—a compromise—given our current limitations. If we were talking about a *true* ideal... surely it would be a solution where no one gets hurt. But... such a thing is utopian.>Jota: Did I say something too presumptuous?>Nova: No... I’m glad to have someone like you by my side. If he--if Viper--is as understanding as you, that'd be great.
>>569525256Right, it's just bad writing instead relies on information the audience had absolutely no way of knowing. Imagine undermining your own entire setting, re-write the motivations of Sumeragi from the original game, breaking the established logic of the narrative and damage the emotional stakes of said game, and for what? A last minute lore-shift because it wasn't enough just to make a wholly unsatisfying third game, but also piss on the legacy of the older ones.How the hell did they flunk this series so badly when BMZ did everything so right.
