Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9375 - "Lex Luthor 100% Canonically Had Sex With Rouge" Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/>Sonic Live in Concerthttps://sonicliveinconcert.com/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>569410668
Cumdump the Rabbit
Silly and bratty shotafox.
Squishy squid
Are the Chaotics Knuckleszz gang???
>>569450887Outside the combat Sonic Frontiers is Bubsy 4D tier.
You should've liked Unleashed.
I'm not saying she fucked Lex Luthor but Rouge is 100% not above sleeping with someone for jewels
>>569451050I'm sorry that it ran at sub-optimal frames when it released
>>569451050Unleashed is another example of an overhated game, for God's sake, critics scored it lower than 2006. Everyone who played it, knows is way better than that.
>>569451037Bubsy 4D is a way better platformer though?And it's not like Frontiers basic bitch combat is good enough to actually mention.
>>569451050I didn't have a PS3
I hate this motherfucker oc self-insert.It's everywhere, while the author clearly wants to fuck lanolin through him.
>>569451621They probably played the Wii version.
>>569450947I'm 22. Not an unc>>569451026I want the next game to actually feel like an open world game - plenty of NPCs to interact with, side quests, random events, collectibles, locations that can be entered and exited, and secrets to uncover
Who's the blackest Sonic character? Is it really Knuckles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5rvPlljoR8
>>569451749I think it's manipulative that Evan writes Whisper to signal "autism" to the audience when we can see VERY CLEARLY that she isn't autistic and that her trauma punted her entire personality and she just randomly has autism symptoms.
Biggest whore?
>>569451864Awesome cover, love it.>>569451927We know is sally
>>569451621They were literally just getting more and more tired of Sonic as time went on. Sonic Colors trailers on Youtube still have comments from 2010 that literally, unironically are telling SEGA "No more Sonic!"
>>569451890Maddie or Agent Mason. There's also Danny. Then there's the guy who owns the stadiums in Sonic X. Randal Handall. Jojo too. There's those rapping guys from Unleashed. I think those are the black characters of Sonic
>>569451890Who cares man..
>>569451050Everyone should have liked Sonic 2006
>>569451852I'm pretty sure the Wii and next-gen versions are categorized differently
>>569451115Nah, that's your coomer brain projecting your fantasies.
>>569451979>We know is sallyThat's our Bulma!
>>569451892Kino
>>569452017No one was "tired of Sonic" besides non-fans who hated Sonic no matter what and self-deprecating fans who wanted to seem hip by going along with the hate. But 06 did normalize Sonic getting commonly bashed and Unleashed was doomed bo matter what it did because of that mentality.
>>569452079Don't forget Daniel Murer
>>569452220Kek, not more like background character #6 or dragonball gt in general.
>>569452136>>569451050I agree with both, I should have. I was stupid for blindly hating those games just because everyone was saying I should.
>>569452220
>>569451846Yeah, I hate that artist too, he just draws to project his fantasies. His oc is ugly too.
>>569452079>Agent MasonI'll never not find it funny that Kid Cudi was in a Sonic TV show
>>569452079....WHO!!?!
Is Shade black? People said she is roman, fits i guess, but romans were black too
>>569452079There's also the black girl who joined in on bullying chris for hanging out with poors. Now you have all the black coded characters.
This is ace, didn't even request it.
>>56945241906 was a bad game, but people also started to hate it for very trivial shit like "Hurr thd humans!" and pushing agendas like the Classicfags proclaiming it was proof that 3D Sonic should've never happened. Unleashed was unfairly targeted because it was "cool" to shit on Sonic for just being Sonic.
>>569452639The nocturnus clan isn't even subtly roman, they are overtly roman in every way. Even the way they name their gizoids is roman. Shade is literally the only nocturnus character without a roman name since hers is english for some reason.
>>569452302>no one was tired of sonic except people who weren't sonic fans
>>569452342Nuly bro btw
>>569451927Easily is sally.
https://youtu.be/cgE6fUUW1vM?si=3-TSeSyeEP-6BfAb
>>569451883>I'm 22.Take my advice. Don't spend your time here or being obsessed with this shit. Go to school.
>>569452789Hello, non-fan. What are you doing in a Sonic General?
>>569451985Will never understand people gassing frontiers up
>>569452665
sally was literally making out with adult men on printed pages of the comic
>>569452641>black girl who joined in on bullying chris for hanging out with poors.Uhh? Am I the only one seeing the irony in this?
>>569450962Hypothetically I'm Silver. How do I get away from this slut?
>>569452686I don't know about it being a bad game. It's a glitchy broken mess, but to me a bad game is a game I can't have fun playing and in this case those problems often don't get in the way of my enjoyment, even if there was some getting used to at first. But I agree with your post otherwise>>569451883>I want the next game to actually feel like an open world game - plenty of NPCs to interact with, side quests, random events, collectibles, locations that can be entered and exited, and secrets to uncoverSame
>>569453001I prefer Whooters
>>569452913Hello retard. What are you doing out of your looney bin?
>>569452431Sonic's wife.
*collapses*
>>569452079Nate Morgan from the Archie Comics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0dsxTpDMw
>>569452017Megaman had a similar thing>>569452302for the Genesis boomers, the point of Sonic's existence was to be able to say "my franchise is better than yours" to Nintendo fans. So Sonic became a heel. And these people couldn't accept that. They cared very little for the characters or world or games themselves.
OK, now who's the whitest Sonic character? Is it really Tails?
>>569452079There is also Kid Cruel from Fleetway, a racial stereotype
Sonic fans want Sonic to be treated fairly, Sonic to not critiqued for making bad decisions, and Sonic to be praised as the greatest platforming IP. All at the same time
>>569453113All my money for Bunnie and Bump.
>>569453183I never thought about that, interesting observation. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some people who were unironically 100% thinking like this.
>>569453230All they did was talk
The boost ability fucked with the aesthetic and the gameplay by making the levels way too big.
Douge
>>569452994*puts on sociology glasses*Often times successful or affluent black parents will teach their children to look down on or avoid associating with "lesser" "ghetto" blacks. It's a common intraracial conflict especially between black immigrants who come to America successfully and have disdain for black american culture. It is not unrealistic for that random rich black girl in particular to hate Chris Thorndyke on account of hanging out with a poorer black boy like Danny. It actually fits the stereotype very well.
>>569453297Silver is the whitest boy there is
>>569453418Cute n canon!
>>569453183>Megaman had a similar thingYeah and Megaman's got a thriving career these days as we all know.>They cared very little for the...games themselves.How did they not care if they got upset when the games got worse? Like, if anything you 4channers who only jerk off to the characters all day are the ones who really don't care.
>>569452419Hubworlds alone would have been enough for me to not like the game much but yes I admit to blindly hating on the game because everyone else was saying I should.I was recently talking to a non-fan friend of mine who played it and actually thought it was good until he got online and "learned better". He talked about it like he was embarrassed to have thought it was good. Doesn't mean I think it's a good game though, but yeah. It's all true. 06 hysteria is largely manufactured.
>>569453320>Sonic fans want Sonic to be treated fairlyYes>Sonic to not critiqued for making bad decisionsSonic fans are the first to do this and people regularly complain about this fact. I mean look at this post >>569449569>Sonic to be praised as the greatest platforming IPI've never seen anyone make this claim at all
>>569453385 hardly anyone will ever admit that too much speed may be bad for everyone involved with sonic from devs to fans
>>569452079mason, what do the numbers mean?
>>569453320I just want a new game to play and for people to leave me alone and let me play it.
>>569453649vaultbait
>>569453113
>>569451846>fuck lanolin through himWhat a faggot.
Here's some black autism for you. Why do Maddie and Rachel from the Sonic movies have entirely different accents? Rachel speaks with african american vernacular while Maddie has the standard "raceless" american accent. How is this possible? Were they not raised together? This isn't even a nitpick, the third movie addresses this directly. Maddie has to force herself to use African American vernacular. The entire punchline of the joke is that maddie in Rachel's body doesn't sound anything like Rachel! The movie is aware of it! EVEN TOM KNOWS HOW TO DO IT.
>>569415119KINOOOOOOOOO
>>569453439No it doesn't. Rich blacks desperately want to be poor blacks lmao. It's a whole thing. They run around carrying themselves like gangsters like they're spent 10 years in prison but they've never set foot in the hood and have a perfect, clean record and a 4.0 GPA.
>>569453714>No squish
>>569453350I know there were because I spoke to them. They got really loud in the Boom Era especially.I remember SNESbabs like MatPat and Egoraptor taking digs at Sonic quite a bit as well simply for the consolewarfag reasons.To this day, there are people that hold onto the notion Sonic exists to beef with Mario and it's really obnoxious.People will judge the games based on whether or not they believe they live up to the standard of being pioneers in game design or frontrunners in the industry over just wanting good games that are fun.It's pretty nuts.
>>569453764Don't think too much about it
>>569453649Please don't post this ever again, thanks.
>>569453805bump tits are too big for AI to calculate
>>569453493I just realized the posts I responded to would more naturally be interpreted like that. I don't want to tell anyone that they should like it, I just think I would have if I formed my opinion directly by playing them alone.>until he got online and "learned better"I heard this from some of the game's fans from when it was new. Social contagion can be powerful.
>>569453447No wonder Blaze the monarch likes him!
>>569453784>bully girl looks at a confused danny with envy. "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME" she screams internally. Tears welling up as she scorns her cursed 120 IQ
>>569453578It seems obvious that more compact levels with more interesting stage gimmicks leada to richer gameplay with the same actions per minute but nah gotta go fast
>>569453447The whitest kid u know
>>569453764Live in the ghetto. Then Maddie was born. Then when Maddie was a baby they moved to the rich white neighborhood. It happens a lot believe it or not.
>>569453476>How did they not care if they got upset when the games got worse?They didn't care about the quality itself. They cared about the optics of the series. The ones that did care about gameplay became the momentumfags. But they are there own niche, rather than the masses. Most normies don't think about or care about that shit. They just play Sonic to go fast and be cool.
This is like taking your virginity, which is fine by me
Silver’s circumstances are more complicated than the other rivals while not being self-explanatory like them.
>>569453784>Greetings, my nigger>what>can she say that>I mean she's black...
>>569453649...I KNEW IT
>>569454150You, uh, do that often?
>>569454096Yes but how slow is 'fast enough'? Because Mario can be played pretty fast too, that's how Sonic came to be in the first place. I think you're both overlooking how much 3D was a leap in programming time and space vs 2D.
>>569453714Ohh fuckkkk i wanna grab an suck they boowbs..
>>569454065It's probably one of the saddest things to witness, growing up sheltered but acting like a thug because you think that's what you're supposed to do.
Reminder that if Archie characters ever come to the games they’ll get the Super Broly treatment and be completely remade.
>>569454150Shadow would be the>I haven't lost my virginity because I never lose."type
>>569454346That's for the players to figure out.
>>569454441The best path for literally every rich kid, unfortunately, is to embrace it and be a bit snobby. Trying to fit in with the poors is unhealthy. Chris's only problem being his attachment issues is the most unrealistic thing about Sonic X
>>569451050No. It started this shit
>>569453385Not even a length issue. The boost fucked up the entire structure of Sonic stages by making most of it just winding corridors and rails and the gameplay is so ingrained to it that characters don't move as well as they did in old games because they're been programmed to just blast through the stage.
>>569454447TFS subhuman detected.
>>569454096Yeah okay wow that is so beautiful and everything but this is Sonic the fucking Hedgehog so??? Apparently the very concept of Sonic is stupid because more compact levels with stage gimmicks you have to engage with give less room for Sonic to go fast.
>>569454282Sonic heard the dog say some of the most racist shit any character has ever said
>>569453510>last lineThere are unfortunately people who are not content with Sonic simply being a good IP that is loved and gives fans what they want. They need him to be on the level of Pokemon or to them the IP failed itself. It's an attitude that I feel holds the series back. It's obnoxious,>>56945394606 even if i am charitable to it is still just a the worst and overtly bad version of all the aspects of the previous Adventure era games. I'm the type of person that hates Super Mario World for feeling like a cheap and downgraded version of Mario 3.I can love a game that is debatably inferior but has its own appeal like how Heroes was different from SA2. Same with Shadow05.06 not really. That said, people really did convince me it was the worst game ever on the level of Big Rigs and it isn't even close. But it was important for the health of the brand to denounce it and praise the nu-era with stuff like Sonic for and Colors for the greater good or whatever. So i was made to believe.
>>569454243His relationship with Sonic is also nonexistent and its not even clear what a "light" counterpart would do even if it did exist.Like how do you even compete with this?
>>569454282Milan's entire character is "I FUCKING HATE POORS" but her friend group is almost as diverse as Chris's Also is there a particular reason she hates Chris? Chris isn't even poor.
>>569454756Everybody hates Chris
>>569454136I seriously don't see the problem here. Even if they only cared because of the way the series is generally perceived, they still want what's best for the series, specifically in the gameplay department, so it really shouldn't matter. It only matters to YOU lot because you don't care about gameplay as long as the story gives you inspiration for your next Deviantart post.>They just play Sonic to go fast and be cool.That's what the fucking series is supposed to be about. How the fuck did we get to the point where this is a weird thing to say???
sup 'nerds,I just came in my Sonic-loving gf, ask me anything
>>569453385>>569453578I'm of two minds because while I agree, the issue with Sonic is also just that most of the changes to the formula were done to stop bad players from playing the game in ways that makes them hate their play experience.For the longest time I wondered why the Airdash was gimped in Boost games and now I know its because its to discourage players from spamming it and launching themselves to their death.We live in an era where games are standardized and sanitized to the point of being kinda dull, and Sonic games just have their own language that people don't have the tolerance to learn their way around. This gets called "bad design" by everyone who is used to every other game ever playing the same.
>>569453510I don't know man, I'm kinda with him.Is true, everyone can criticize sega for its actual bad decisions, but let's not pretend the fandom doesn't have bandwagon mass opinions, while thinking the average sonic fan is always on the right. When 80% of the time are not.
>>569452079There is also 06 shopkeeper
>>569454756Chris is probably richer. Plus, his family has pretty renowned careers. So I'd chalk it up to jealousy and also looking down on him for not hanging out with fellow rich people.
>>569454447I voted for this.
>>569455069>let's not pretend the fandom doesn't have bandwagon mass opinionsEvery community has bandwagon mass opinions>thinking the average sonic fan is always on the rightEveryone thinks they are right. I think my opinions are right, and you think your opinions are right (see how apparently you get to decide "80% of the time are not")These things are just normal
>>569455007Mario-sama please fuck my cute tight bussy
>>569454640Not a problem in the 2D games.>>569454618>the characters don't move as well as they didIf you walk as slow as possible in any boost game, including Frontiers, the movement is janky as fuck.>>569455028I replayed Hollow Knight recently and I was reminded how bland the game feels.
>>569454970Only caring about how the series is perceived by non-fans is not wanting the best for the series.
>>569451050I love it, still to this day.>>569454489Fair, player choice is good but you have to figure out how to build a horizonal pathway without taking too much space *and* have the verticalitiy to make it explorative. This is why story and character discussion is so common because it's relatively easy to articulate.>>569455115>Hey
>>569454756She's jealous of him being rich and can't comprehend why he's spending time with poor people instead of someone like her. Not that it's a tsundere thing.
>>569455454If it's the majority first, then yes it is.
>>569454970>Even if they only cared because of the way the series is generally perceived, they still want what's best for theThey don't though. They convinced themselves that the problem with the games was all the stuff like stories, characters, etc that people liked rather than the actual gameplay.They praised Gens and Colors which also used Boost gameplay, not because it was well received by critics, but because it was the right kind of game being well received by critics.>>>569451069>It's better than boostshitI disagree. But then again, I also don't agree SA1's gameplay is all that great and think SA2 and Heroes are better for having actual level design. So what do I know.Because the games can't be just that. It has to be an actual game at some point. otherwise it becomes a shallow experience that stops working for people above the age of 6.
>>569455007I hope it was legal!Pauline, Mario..or are you back with Peach?
>>569455407>Not a problem in the 2D games.It's one of the biggest complaint about Sonic 1.Thing about Sonic 2 is that its design isn't as compact as Sonic 1's, but not as open as Sonic Advance 2 either. It could lean more into the speed gimmick but doesn't need to as there's always something happening in the game, so it FEELS more fast paced. Look at the moving parts of Aquatic Ruins for example. The arrows you're trying to outrun and the grounders that come out of the wall. This is a somewhat clever workaround.
>>569455517No it isn't. The interest of the people who actually like the series is what matters. And even then, it should be about YOU first, not other people. Unless you have stocks in SEGA or work for them, but as far as I know we're talking about enjoying video games. "If it's the majority first" would imply that every single video game should appeal to a single massive audience and that individual preferences, appeals, and niches shouldn't exist. That's stupid.
>>569453578Hardly anyone will ever admit, but Sonic 3D Blast had beginnings of a good formula for 3D Sonic games.
>>569455529>They praised Gens and Colors which also used Boost gameplay, not because it was well received by critics, but because it was the right kind of game being well received by critics.I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not going to pretend I do.
I don't even feel like I'm fully controlling Sonic in a Boost game. It's like I'm just taking part in helping a sequence go through.
>>569453578>>569454096Adventure games did it fine. Hell, I don't even like Heroes or Shad05 but they both did it to an extent as well.Level-wise, Sonic games (at least 2D ones) aren't actually that much different from Mario or other contemporary platformers from a content perspective, it's just that Mario tends to have more, smaller levels while Sonic tends to have less, larger levels. It's why games like CD and 3K started experimenting a lot more with exploration in their level design and objectives
>>569455962>>569455784>>569454935>>569454768I wish I had 5% of the talent joeadok has, he's the ultimate sonicfag.A cool everything fag too.
>>569455784>Silver being a rebound after Sonic got ACK'dPoor guy can't win.
>>569455875That anon is saying Colors was praised for dumping the shitty friends and not telling a dark, edgy story where Eggman wasn't the final boss and Generations was praised for the same thing while also pandering to classicfags. They were liked for conforming to what Sonic "should be" not by their actual quality.
>>569456170Same
>>569455875people blamed epic stories, too many playable characters and Eggman not being the final boss and not just playing as sonic with minimal story in bog standard platforming to be the issue.It didn't matter whether it was actually the issue or not. What mattered is that a game that didn't have these things be well received.Did they play like the classics? No. People didn't even get into the nuances of the game design back then and how watered down and 2D Colors is compared to the Day Stages in Unleashed until years later for example.The reception of the game was "permitted" rather than a reflection of what was in it being what people wanted in particular.I remember everyone saying after Gens they wanted more playable characters and an actual story now.
>>569456072True
>>569455784>>569455886Automation was always a thing in Sonic it just got progressively worse, the thing is you *can* control Sonic during a lot of Unleashed it's just unless you know what you're doing you'll effectivley go splat. Thouigh it wasn't until Forces that it got really bad and the game somehow felt slow *and* fast. Regardless of what one thinks, peak boost gameplay (which IMO was Unleashed but Gens was more accessable) was and is very unique as a playstyle among 3D platformers. This all just reminds me of how it was back in the old days early 2010's when we were all saying how Unleashed and Gens were setting a good foundation and surely the next game would perfect the issues with boosting. Then we got Lost World and Forces and now we're kind of clueless as to what's coming next.
>>569455962How the fuck joeadok is so talented, he made miss alpha super hot, how is that even humanly possible.
Sonic is nordic as fuck
>>569456072Yoshi's Island 2, my beloved...
>>569455115welcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcome
>>569456072People call 37K explorative but its honestly just a Classicuck meme getting cocomellon'd by looking at level maps without actually paying attention to the layouts in amny meaningful meassure.Sopnic 3&K was designed moreso around using as much of the spritemap as possible because they wanted to game to be the biggest ever.Levels are actually pretty damn linear as a result with pretty rigidly designed pacing.I don't think its a coincidence that adventure fans like Sonic 3&K so much because the Adventure games follow in its footsteps a lot in terms of structure and design philo.This isn't a bad thing either. I'm more just trying to break apart a lot of the myths about the design of these games perpetuated in fandom discourse.CD is just a hodgepodge because the game wants you to fuck around to do time travel.
>>569456375Nonstop drawing, drawing, drawing and drawing, a bunch of sega autism here too
>>569455115>>569456486Holy shit, i forgot this one is an actual character.
>>569456486I like 06 because this kind of thing can only exist in a 2006 game
>>569455772>The interest of the people who actually like the series is what matters.No it's not. Because the people who like the series want shit like shipping and DBZfaggotry and pussifying all the characters and etc. to coddle and groom their feelings of what Sonic means to them which turned into misconceptions of what they think Sonic is SUPPOSED to be. And when the series gets backlash for this they're the first ones to say it's all SEGA's fault and then try to run off and make some shit on their own that has nothing to do with Sonic like Freedom Planet or Spark the Electric Jester or whatever other ripoff.If it's about YOU first, you do NOT want what's best for the series, you want what's best for YOU. This is really simple. You might not like it because it's the same as calling you selfish but you can be selfish if you want to. But wanting what's best for the series is different from wanting what's best for you. Neither is right or wrong, but they are not the same.
>>569456354I never agreed that it was a good foundation. I think Unleashed perfectly executed all the potential that gameplay has and there is nothing else that can be done with it. Generations is lame and boring, it's an extremely watered down version of Unleashed. Colors and Forces essentially turned that gameplay into an occasional minigame, moving the focus to Mario style platforming, and I think that's a much better idea than just making repetitive boost stages like Generations.
Rare Super Sonic art
>>569456554... do you have more joeadok miss alpha art?
>>569456549The different level routes in 3K are usually separated from one another but there's absolutely exploration in there. I've fucked up my blue spheres more than enough times to have to go "okay fuck time to go hunt for more rings" in levels. It's not as focused on it as CD is but I'd hardly call it a meme.
>>569456468Good game, but still pales in comparison to the masterpiece that was the first game.Now when do we get a Knuckles' Island series?
>>569456486This is why 06 is the best Sonic game, and I’m not joking.
>>569455794What? No it didn't. Why would you say that?
>>569456731Will see
>>569454970>That's what the fucking series is supposed to be about.It's about freedom actually. Sonic goes only as fast as he pleases.
>>569456486For real, who the fuck thought having hyperrealism on fucking sonic the hedgehog was a good thing?Is the total opposite of this franchise.
>>569456770I’m waiting for Knuckles Bananza
>>569456392Damn, he did that background gal.All this stuff makes me feel bad because I effectively scammed Joe out of an art trade which I never fulfilled, I should do it.>>569456662Saying something did the best that an idea could do is just limiting your imagination, boosting could work like accelerating a car, it could be vertical, there's a whole host of ideas one can do with the style. Mario style platforming is done better by Mario itself.
>>569456765>The different level routes in 3K are usually separated from one another but there's absolutely exploration in there.I'm not saying there is none, but it's not that much. The way people stress it you'd think it was a huge element when it really isn't. It's mostly in the form of pushing against a wall for a hidden giant ring or item monitor.Exploration in Sonic is kind of a meme in general. These were never really exploration based games. it's just a thing classicfags said to try and prop up the classics over adventure games. It's identifying something but explaining it terribly, which is a problem with Sonic discourse in general.
>>569456354>what's coming nextFrontiers 2.>>569456770I meant the SMW stage lolI think I'm going to drink and replay the SMW GBA remake this weekend, I've been getting nostalgic for it lately.
>>569457023Beats the Deviantart blobians.
>>569456585The point of video games is to be enjoyed by their players. Every player should be focused on playing games they enjoy playing. The Sonic series should appeal to Sonic fans. This is what's best for the series. Appealing to non-fans is appealing to no one, because they're not interest and don't want to be. Of course there are going to be different types of fans though, which is why the series should have different types of games that appeal to different niches.Unless, again, you work for SEGA and make money from their products. Then I understand why you think appealing to more people = "good for the series".
>>569457069>SpoilerDespicable
>>569456731
>>569457204I just can't draw that quickly and I don't like drawing furries, so I kept procrastinating on it.
>>569457023It was 2006 like every company that wasn't Nintendo was doing this shit
>>569457069I mean boost as it is in Unleashed specifically. Generations, as well as the boost sections in Colors and Forces, don't offer anything that Unleashed doesn't.Also, I wasn't saying Sonic should play exactly like Mario, just that I find it preferable to those watered down zombie versions of Unleashed.
>>569457073I don't care for exploration and it never really worked IMO but it was always a part of the franchise up till Unleashed.
>>569456225Colors wasn't like how Sonic was in the past though so that makes no sense. Unless you're just saying they thought Sonic shouldn't have friends or a dark edgy story. If that's what you're saying...it still makes no sense. They think those things should not exist because....the bog down the quality of the games. That's the only reason. So it's still about the games' quality in the end...>>569456242I'm really failing to see the issue here. They were right. Colors and generations were super well received, sold fairly well, and saved the Sonic series from the brink of destruction. They recently have been pulling titles off the shelves, and yet Colors and Generations has received the EXACT OPPOSITE treatment. Yes, that's right, games other than the fucking Classics for the 1990th time are getting RERELEASED. Generations was so good they just made another entire Sonic game that was basically just what Shadow was doing during Generations. How you guys can't see that the people who claimed those traits you pointed out were bogging down the quality of the games is actually confounding me.
Fiona making silver the dad who stepped up
>>569457316Who is Joe?
>>569456486This is why 06 is the best Sonic game, and I'm joking.
>>569457023I never liked t but it was just the trend of the time. Even Smash bros Brawl leaned into it. Hardware was getting to the point where people could and because you could, a lot of people saw it as "being behind" if you didn't which turned it into a soft "should".
What female character has the biggest futa vibe frfr?
>>569457536joe mama
>>569457536JoeAdok
>>569456861Shut up, Sparky.
>>569457324Nintendo was doing it too>>569457428>Colors wasn't like how Sonic was in the past though so that makes no sense.In their minds it was. They saw Sonic 1 only had Sonic and Eggman, that it had Green Hill, and no in-game story, and decided that's what Sonic was about.>That's the only reason.Nope, you can actually go read the discussions from the time. The characters weren't hated for things like collision glitches or whatever (which is a stupid connection to make, anyway). They were hated because they were new and didn't exist back then. They outright stated this repeatedly.
>>569456807Exploration based stages > race tracksImagine how Chaotix in Heroes / ShTH would work with this level philosophy. Now think about how can it work with Frontiers Open Zone concept.Personally also I like the concept behind Sonic CD, but I hate how exploration of the stages in 2D works. Would much prefer Super Metroid / Metroid Zero Mission like large map with multiple objectives, no time limit (except for some sections) and ability to either go steady or SEQUENCE BREAK THE SHIT OUT OF IT.
>>569457567Surge
>>569457567Vanilla, Queen Alicia, Tikal
>>569457421What you are calling "exploration" is more just feeling like you are in a game world rather than just a level track.>>569457428>I'm really failing to see the issue here. They were right. Colors and generations were super well received, sold fairly well, and saved the Sonic series from the brink of destruction.This is kind of just a meme narrative. The story goes, Unleashed had a good idea, Colors took the good and dropped the bad and Generations refined it into something great but we know both looking at the games and knowing the history behind their development that it wasn't really what happened.But it's the story you were sold because it was in service to a narrative.
>>569457428People hate Colors now, though. It's marked as the game that took the remaining soul out of Sonic.
>>569457260>>569457425Thanks dude.>>569457324I forgot act zero was a thing, yuck.How come Nintendo is always criticized but somehow Nintendo ia always right?I remember every "Hardcore gamer" mocking the wii and then boom! It became the most bought console of that generation, Nintendo is the whole reason, kinect and Playstation move were a thing,
>>569457428When Sonic x Shadow Generations released most people were saying the Sonic Generations portion kinda sucks and Shadow Generations is actually one of the best Sonic games lolAnd Colors is outright hated nowadays
>>569457839>Shadow Generations is actually one of the best Sonic gamesGive it a year or two.
>>569455794No it didn't.>metroidfaginto the trash
>>569457567Honey the Cat (Classic)
>>569457124>The Sonic series should appeal to Sonic fans. This is what's best for the series.No it isn't. It's what's best for the fans.>Appealing to non-fans is appealing to no oneNo it isn't. Saying that appealing to someone is appealing to no one makes no sense. If non-fans will never like Sonic then the series is hardstuck on the number of fans it has. In that case it should just do what the fans want but not because it's what the fans want, but rather because this is how they appeal to as many people as possible. Because that's what's best for the series.>Of course there are going to be different types of fans though, which is why the series should have different types of games that appeal to different niches.First of all, no it shouldn't. Second of all, even if it were a good idea, and it isn't, different types of games meant to appeal to totally different crowds is what different IPs are for. You don't maintain brand identity by giving your playerbase whiplash born of complete inconsistency, giving them output they can't predict or count on.
>>569457549I hated the "next gen" trend.Fucking millenials gamers. Like imagine growing up with like Pac-Man and just needing realism to suck the whimsy out of everything. Cursed generation. Still playing God of War type slop.
>>569457549>>569457991Smash bros doesn't even count on that trend, smash did it since melee.
Alicia..
>>569457324Well I mean,,,Nintendo wasn't doing it for a reason. And honestly Nintendo was doing it too for franchises like Metroid and Zelda, but others like Mario and Kirby stayed true to themselves because hopping on the realism bandwagon is completely at odds with the appeal of their series.
>>569457970>No it isn't. It's what's best for the fans.I'd argue it isn't even what's good for the fans because fans are bad at identifying what it is they actually want.Fanbase is filled with NPCs.There needs to be an effort to balance making the games actually interesting while still appealing to non-fans. Because fans on there own can't support this ship lol.
>>569457665You're being a little disingenuous there, there were people who bitched about the gameplay too, and much like in this thread it was more or less people who didn't like the gameplay loop/design philosophy finding things that it wasn't supposed to do or didn't do and saying that it was bad because it didn't do those things they happened to like. Glitches and slippery controls are just a bonus for legitimising it. Likewise, the character stuff boils down to 'These characters are bright cartoon characters with cartoon voices and I'm 20-something, how can I show my face in public?' This was before kidults were accepted by mainstream society and liking Sonic on your MegaGenesis as a wee lad was fine, the game seemed colourful but also had a bit of a gritty industrial edge to it and the comics and cartoons reenforced this.
>>569458080Not really.
>>569458090>that little black piecehnnng...
>>569458090
>>569457835>I remember every "Hardcore gamer" mocking the wii and then boom! It became the most bought console of that generation, Nintendo is the whole reason, kinect and Playstation move were a thing,Yes, but no-one likes the Move or Kinect and unless your publisher was Nintendo chances are your Wii game was kind of crap.
>>569457991Nintendo really suffered during this time for that reason but wading through that era paid off in the end because once the trend died, they were the ones left with all the iconic IPs.Sonic is kind of in a similar boat despite being associated with cutting edge shit moreso than Mario.
>>569456585>>569457970Sonic has changed a lot and even Iizuka has admitted you can't please every fan. You can enjoy some Sonic Team titles and works and not the others.
Cute...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTXg7BvObC4
>>569457970Best for the fans and best for the series are the same thing. When I say appealing to non-fans is counter-productive I'm not saying it can't grab the attention of new fans. I mean that there is no point in trying to appeal to people who have already heard of the series and don't like it. Kids are born all the time, and that's the primary audience for the series. Adults may be attracted as well, but that is more complex. It may be that the series could appeal to certain, but wasn't executed well enough or in certain ways that would catch their attention. And of course you want to keep the established fans satisfied.>totally different crowdsI don't think having 2D games, 3D games, boost games, Adventure games, phone games, movies, cartoons, comics, etc. is "totally different", there can be significant overlap as the series maintains certain aspects across all those mediums.>what different IPs are forNo, you want everything to appeal to the majority.>>569458402And that's fine. SEGA just needs to learn to balance their releases better.
>>569458108Thing is, it wasn't at complete odds with Sonic because Sonic was always pushing itself as cutting edge as early as the first game. SA1 even used actual photos for textures in its game, so there was a precedent. I don't agree with it but the precedent was there, and contrary to what you might think, a lot of people gassed the game up before release for it as well.
>>569454748Silver isn’t light Sonic that’s just something Sparky made up.
>>569458439This causes me physical discomfort and Sega was right to shut this shitshow down.
My hot take on the DC x Sonic series is I think it would have been better if it was just a Flash crossover or at least mainly focused on Flash and Sonic. They'd obviously never do that because you know we GOTTA have Batman and Superman. But the moments of the two racing and bickering over who was faster were my favorite parts. I feel like it should be a bigger deal that the most famous speedsters in pop-culture that nerds have been powerscaling against each other forever finally get to meet and team up officially. But it's not the focus at all.
>>569458238Yes it did,
>>569458439Ooc dogshit
>>569458262
>>569457991They didn't grow up with Pac-Man, they grew up with Doom, Goldeneye, and Resident Evil. 'Next Gen' was just taking the rapidly progressing advancements in graphical technology to make stuff look more and more real and defined. It was evolution and to be honest I remember booting up my HDTV for the first time and being blown away by it all; unless you grew up with a CRT you wouldn't get how big of a jump it was. I think the past couple of console generations haven't had the same leap as we haven't had that next big thing in terms of resolution.
>>569458592>At first, although we had decided on the direction of making a Sonic-like white hedgehog, we hadn't yet decided on a specific character design, so we experimented by making Sonic white on the monitor.You only think that because Silver failed.
Reminder, Sally Acorn exists because she was ment for a completely different show that had nothing to do with Sonic.
>>569458901This artist makes me laugh, she used to make a lot of sonic art, then stopped to make hard-core dragon ball porn.
>>569458745archie won thoeverdesu
>>569458605The Archie fag will respond by posting more ooc crap
>>569458090Why can't IDW be more like this? comics used to make boys like me horny
>>569458973Source?
>>569458636>My hot take on the DC x Sonic series is I think it would have been better if it was just a Flash crossover or at least mainly focused on Flash and SonicI don't agree at all. Most f the stuff that makes Flash compelling is way to highbrow for Sonic. I question how much about Flash beyond "he's fast" you actually know to make this statement.
>>569459019my ass
>>569459031Enlighten me. What don't I know about the Flash?
>>569459010Who's the bottom one
>>569458636I agree, to be honest I'm more of a Marveldrone anyway so I don't really care all that much, but it suffers from the normal crossover problem where it becomes a whistle-stop tour of the franchise because the writers want to just have X&Y together panels and do all the jokes they wanted to do.>>569459031Don't tell him about Speedforce and what Reverse Flash did.
>>569458439Sonally 4eva
>>569458927I'm a zillenial and I remember when I bought an HD TV for Skyrim cause my SD 4:3 CRT got cut off. I remember emulating PSP games in true HD. I still don't get it.
>>569457665There's plenty of critics who complained about collision glitches (or whatever). And everything else about the shitty side characters.>>569457715You do not like Sonic.>>569457772>The story goes,>it's the story you were soldThe fuck? I never said any of that shit.>>569457820Wow, funny how optics change over time. But the game still sold well and inspired Sonic Team to continue with the boost formula since it showed it could be well received without the Werehog or other gimmick bogging it down.>>569457839You guys now ironically seem more fixated on how people see the games now than how well they actually did lol. People said this people said that, so what? Sonic Generations did well and Shadow Generations did well. It's not odd for people to reevaluate a game, nor is it odd for a new game to be of a higher quality than an old one. But Sonic Generations ENABLED the creation of Shadow Generations.
>>569459019You never saw the early concept art, she wasn't even a chipmunk, she was some kind of human/elf princess. Robotnik early Satan concept was some kind of fat goblin/troll
I know this general doesn't really care about the games let alone the classics but here's some sega newshttps://www.timeextension.com/news/2026/06/rumour-sega-might-be-releasing-a-low-cost-handheld-with-removable-game-carts
>>569459014Are you actually stupid
>>569459241>The fuck? I never said any of that shit.I question if you were even there then
I feel the wind radiating from this page
Never forget Sonally
>>569459279NTA. I've seen that concept art, but it was made for SatAM. Iirc early pitches for the show even call Sally a human girl.
>>569459303Game Gear Mini with support for actual Game Gear carts would be cool
>>569459241>and inspired Sonic Team to continue with the boost formulaNo it didn't though. It inspired them to make Sonic more like Mario. That's how we got Lost World.
>>569459014So you want to kill Sonic and replace him with Archienic
>>569459303I'm not buying another device with a closed OS ever again.
>>569451621Sorry but no, the werehog gimmick was shit. The combat may or may not be your thing, but the platforming is just ass and ruined the whole game for me.
>>569459145Izengrim (or just "Izzy") the Souleater. He's Rey's "Eggman" so to speak.Loosely based off the myth; https://www.britannica.com/topic/Isengrim
>>569459241This entire post is cope. You were proven wrong on every single point and replied with something unrelated. Just admit you said something stupid and move on.
Combination of west and east
>>569459014Goonerbait is one of the things IDW kept from Archie
>>569459365This pic is literally the opposite of Sonic and evidence that Ian Flynn never cared about the games. There's no "wind" here.
>>569459181>Zone cops protecting the multiverse>the multiverse was literally a cosmic interstate As controversial archie was, it had some pretty fun and cool concepts.Fun fact: some of those were created by Dan Slott, yes that spider-man writer.I think the cosmic interstate predates him, I think it was Gallagher.Have a multiversal gif anon.
>>569459365this is how manchildren see romancevile
>>569459116Flash is basically Sonic 06 time travel but all the time and 20 times more convoluted.
>>569459303I've been wanting to get a good handheld, so I might be interested, but if it's just an emulation machine like Nintendo's "NES Mini" or whatever then I don't care.
>>569459365Sonally is the most windkek repelling ship in existence after Sonamy. It's a shame Sonamyfaggots hate all other shippers.
>>569458970That doesn't say Light Sonic
>>569459328I go to college>>569459365>>569459383Never forgetti
>>569450505She looks disgusted that he had sex with a bat creature.
>>569459609archie is aggressively straight while idw has convenient goonerbait and wants to be queer
>>569459159>Reverse FlashOh yeah and this bolsters my point it's such bullshit that he shows up on one page and delivers obligatory Ian Flynn SA2 reference and completely jobs to Sonic. Like wouldn't it have been SO MUCH COOLER if he was like the main villain?
>>569459525Opposite for me, I like the Werehog's platforming and I wish there was more of it instead of combat
>>569459664>mocking manchildren >in a sonic thread of all things >in 4chanThis place isn't self-aware at all.
>>569459241>You do not like Sonic.Yes, I LOVE Sonic.My favourite Sonic games are Sonic the Hedgehog (1991), Sonic the Hedgehog (1991) for Master System, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Advance and Sonic the Hedgehog (2006).Here's another 2 hot takes:>Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (16-bit) was mid and Mystic Cave Zone is the only great zone in the game>I always play Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles separately, because I don't care about replaying the shit half of the game just to get to S&K and Tails doesn't add much anyway
>>569459175>Human body with animal head.I know it's a common trope but the way this artist does it really irriates me, it's probably because they do it with a cartoon style but in a human proportion, it just looks dumb.>>569459231Eh, I grew up with the CRT and crappy old PC's so HD and 60FPS was mind-blowing>>569459805Not as bad but likewise this artist irritates me also I don't care for bondage and his art is everywhere, also he's Danish.
I don't read Archie but it's funny they managed to make a pairing that sets off every red flag for game purists
https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/special/staffcolumn/20260605_009304/
>>569453001>>569453113
>>569459867>Jobs to SonicMan, what a wasted oppotunity right there, couldn't even do something like "Remember when you fell through the loop-de-loop? IT WAS ME SONIC!"
>>569459365>Post an archie page>people start to loose their shit.The guys on the last thread were right about sonic fans.
>>569459689Yeah I know. I read the comics
>>569459904It's really not. I see the same people samefagging all day and pretending we don't know. It's really draining because I know what you are doing and it makes it really annoying that I have to go along with some lonely faggot's autism for the sake of carrying a conversation in this fucking shithole.
>>569459914You're cool anon, glad to see someone enjoy the games (not that guy btw just want to make it clear)
>>569459479I didn't say that
>>569459493Did the Steam Deck sour your experience?
>>569460001Why does he looks so sexy
Why do amyfags hate surge
>>569460003
>>569459638Zone cops as a concept was made by him, funny to think that Spider-verse films take their roots from Archie Sonic
>>569459867There isn't anything meaningful to say by making Reverse Flash the main villain in a Sonic story.If you're gonna connect the two worlds just because they are fast, you can't actually make that the focus because all you can do is make em race. The substance of both series is vastly different.People really need to stop reducing sonic to "goes fast + I like chilidogs"
>>569460001Nice
Will HE show up tomorrow, sthg?
good night
>>569459525From what ive seen the combat is actually the weak part about the werehog. The platforming actually looked decently fun.
>>569459493>>569460093>Steam Deck>closed OSDoesn't it just use Linux + KDE Plasma with Steam preinstalled?
>>569460129She could drain ever anon on this site and still be horny.
>>569460057Bitch im not even the same guy. This place has more than 10 people. You just like to start shit.
>>569460292If not tomorrow, then he'll show up only June 23rd
>>569460305I want to hold her close and forget the agony of this existence for just a short while
Archiefags are literally proud that their slop is disgusting to people who like the real Sonic
I like the boost games more than the classic ones desu. I just wish we had more reasons to explore the stages, like the elemental shields in the classic games
>>569460093Steam Deck was very open, even though I sold it cause it was too big. I was more soured by the Switch and the Vita. Like I just want to install any app or download any file I want. Mostly for emulation but also generally. I just don't want a locked down device.
>>569460292
>>569460021
>>569460027Then you should know you can't just smash the two series together and have it work.
>>569460380Alicia. The perfect slut queen
>>569460001>>569460106>The first thing that attracts me is the combination of black-rimmed glasses and playful expressions! There's a boyish quality to it, but also a mature sex appeal... It's kind of cheating
Did you know Cindy Robinson is in Oblivion Remastered
She likes to pretend that there's more than one faggot who is obsessed with shipping Shadow and Maria.
Sonally won. Sonic married to Sally in an official licenced comic.
>>569460568Why is the middle finger censored like a hentai dick?
>>569460419I know YOU aren't, retard, but now I'm second-guessing myself considering how defensive you got. And no, don't give me that crap, basic pattern recognition isn't a special superpower lol. You're all just desperate faggots who can't even wait for the cooldown to finish.
>>569460592The best looking chillidogs were the ones on prime, unleashed and sonic movie 2, the rest looked like diarrhea on a bun for some strange reason.
>>569460686Do you want to talk about the super genesis wave because this is how you get a conversation about the super genesis wave
>>569460686Dude, i just called Sonally cute, i wasn't pushing it down people's throats
>>569460515What about Medals and Red Star Rings?
>>569459689Sonic 06 time travel is Sonic CD time travel.
>>569460515The elemental shields stopped being used because all their moves got put into Sonic's base kit and whatever elemental resistence they could have given the player is moot in a game where sonic moves at mock 50 and blinks enemies instantly from 60 miles away with the boost and nuHomingAttack.It's why item capsules don't even exist in general. All you can do is pick up rings in boost games, and rings don't even matter anymore since lives are being phased out.
>>569460747>but now I'm second-guessing myselfYou don't have that skill nor the ability and brain.
>>569460742Just another way to censor a middle finger gesture
How do we fix Silver? Not comics Silver, just game Silver
>>569460621Ok but they're ALREADY smashing them together. They're smashing the ENTIRE DC UNIVERSE together with fucking Sonic the Hedgehog. So if they're going to do that they can at least make the most interesting matchup the focus
>>569460805You're on a weeb site. Sonally is on par with calling Netflix Cowboy Bebop decent. Even if you meant no harm the people here WILL continuously read it as "I don't care about the original Japanese intent, in fact I spit on them!" Is that irrational? Yes. But that's how it is. It will not get better. Welcome to autism.
>>569460886Shadow Generations has Item Boxes
>>569460860No it isn't. Though there are similarities.
>>569460635Slutnic
>>569460636She is also in Skyrim. She voices Astrid, the Dark Brotherhood leader.
>>56946068630 years later was an alternate timeline, while the main original timeline got obliterated by eggman bro.But nice drawing.
>>569460057You're paranoid about samefags because you're suffering from anonymity-induced psychosis. Which I know what someone who was samefagging and wanted to fuck with you would say. You should take a break.
>>569461004To give you your chaos meter, I imagine.
Which Sonic girl is most likely to rape you?
>>569461138>>569457567Katella
>>569461138No one, they are not sickos like you.
>>569460995This sounds very similar to how people react to 06
>>569461138Sally.
My theory is that IDW issue 50 is the reason JP purism became so big that you even see it on twitter and Facebook now. Ian put new character traits in IDW so people who never even read Archie don't even see it as a non canon story but an insult to Sonic. Archie Sonic doesn't even act like IDW Sonic, but to a JP purist Archie is the reason Sonic is ooc in IDW. So they see Archie itself as bait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_zEIz-yfKMGood night.
>>569460592Why did the SatAM/AoStH guys give him chili dogs anyway? Chili dogs aren't even good they're legit just slop on slop
>>569460981Just establish his character instead of trying to be mysterious.
>>569460798Super Genesis Wave is a powerful ability that can rewrite causality, history, remove resistances and immunity to time paradoxes, erase beings, souls, concepts, fundamental information, fundamental plot, rewrite memories, rewrite matter on a quantum level and bend laws of reality to user's willYe, its cool
>>569461197Maybe if you were cuter more girls would rape you.
>>569461203Weeb tards think 06 is good tho
>>569460410So it does, my bad.>>569460517Well they are consoles, what did you expect?
>>569460981Silver doesn't need fixing. He just needs to be used. Blaze, Cream and Metal and maaaybe Knuckles need fixing
>>569461304>Chili dogs aren't even goodShut your whore mouth, because you clearly never tasted one.Not even talking about sonic.
>>569460686This
>>569461272Archie fags openly admit that they want to replace Sonic's characterization in the games so they can have their shitty ooc ship. I don't respect those fucks. They actively want to kill Sonic and are joking about it in this very thread.
There's an anon here who seethes at anything fun>tsundere tropes are le bad>archie comics are westslop>ummm ackschually Sonaze isn't right because the creator says there wasn't anything romantic>Nonono stop talking about IDW it's troonslopI'm sure it's the same anon
>>569461137Among other things
Do ya liek da fast game?
>>569461386You know what I mean, anon. The extreme reaction to 06
>>569461430ok Sonic
>>569461304Hot dogs are mid but chili is god tier.
>>569461138Ms. Robotnik
>>569461138Abyss feels like the kind of girl that would probably do it
>>569461272>>569461439Are you seriously talking with yourself?
>>569461272>archiefags avoiding accountabilityNo it happened because Archiefags kept insisting Reboot should just replace the games and claimed it did Sonic accurately if not better.
>>569460001I can already tell fujoshifags will have a field day with this art
>>569461425Silver's character needs to be straightened before you use him.
>>569461203You're right>>569461283Goodnight Kitfriend
>>569461283Sweet Dreamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn5JZWRqleU
>>569460981>How do we fix Silver? Not comics Silver, just game SilverHe can only be fixed by fixing his relationship with Sonic by rebooting him with a game focusing on only him and Sonic without Silvaze to steal the narrative out from under him.
>>569461572Archie fans don't like Sonic
>>569461304No one who tasted an actual good chilli dog would say this unless you eat like a 3 years old.
>>569461304Because Tom Kalinske was trying to ape TMNT and TMNT had a pizza association, so they chose another fast junk food for Sonic. It's as deep as it goes.
>>569461138Tails.
>>569461669BASED
>>569461138the fat gerbil chick from Archie maybe
Sallyfags shitting up the entire thread by pissing off Sonic autists again
>>569461618Surprised someone else knows about the demo version of Sweet Sweet Sweet. I don't even remember how I found out about it
>>569461731This
Hoes mad because they can break brotherhood.
>>569461825My fault >>569458439
>>569461473Like?Also what am I even looking at?>>569461594Not meaningfully so? That would come naturally from just using him.
>>569460904>>569461064Both of you are lame af if you get this mad over me calling it out lol
>>569461451We know is the same anon, he was having a conversation with himself, anon spotted him, and now is not selfreplying, just posting randomly.
>>569461878(Me)>can't breakI'm going to bed.
>>569460823I mean, is it really exploration if it is right in your face? You just have to take the right path. What I mean is, the game doesn't let you slow down and just fuck around for a bit. Classic let you do that. Many times you can just go back if you missed something. But boost doesn't
Why can't Goku be a regular teenager and chase after girls like in the Dragon Ball Evolution movie? Why does he have to love adventure and fighting so much? That's not relatable. Ugh.
You know who else is relatable?My mom!
>>569462031Sonic 2 and 3 actually had multiple points of no return. Sonic 1 had some, but less.Only CD was really explorative and it was to the game's detriment.
>>569461451Now who here hates tsunderes, Archie, Sonaze, and IDW?
>>569451893She can't bear to have mentally-ill villains (hence why she redeemed Surge), so only heroes are allowed to be divergent.
>>569461986A good way to sus out samefaggotry is see who and how they respond. They usually just lead on with their autism until satisfied, very "directed" conversations.
>>569461905Silver has been used in the comics for almost two decades and the comic people still don't know what he's supposed to be beyond being like Trunks. Just using him more won't fix anything when 2-3 different versions of him are what's being used.
The godzilla tokatsu dudes for the last thread were chill. I'm glad godzilla is becoming more popular but sad about super sentai ending.
>>569462039Jujutsu Kaisen is the current most popular fightfag manga and the author did make all the characters much more relatable than Goku is
>>569461825They really prove Sonic fans are the antitheses of Sonic.
>>569462203Muscleman....
>>569462339Was. And it will be forgotten in a couple years unlike DB.
>>569462339JJK isn't popular because of relatable characters. Gojo and Sukuna are the most popular characters of that series and Sukuna is a human satan while Gojo is basically JPnic >>569460001
>>569462296>>569461986Archiefaggot pretending that it's wrong to call Archie Sonic OOC while also posting obvious bait posts such as >>569461436>>569460686Or a JP purist who hates Archie so much that he's going to falseflag as an Archiefag until it gets annoying. Either way cut it out. Now replying to yourself and your own falseflags to drive the conversation until it snowballs into JP purists trying to drive archie fans out
Why is everyone so angry?
>>569461905>what am I even looking at?A Shadow Generations screenshot showing an Item Box that contains 20 Rings
>>569462312>the comicsAnon....
>>569458504>Best for the fans and best for the series are the same thing.Wrong. You don't think big enough. Mario's success is embarrassing to me when compared to Sonic.
I wanted to be SonicBut was born a Barry
>>569462549Is just one dude.
>>569462473DBfags hate it when their whole narrative falls apart uh?
>>569462339I thought Archie fans said they didn't want to erase game Sonic and replace him with the Archie version
>>569462593The comics people write for the games and other media now. CrossWorlds and Team Sonic Racing write Silver like Archie.
>>569462569>20RingsWOW! I'm so impressed! It's like those bigger rings that are worth 10 you normally boost through but you can press the homing attack at it!
>>569462549Devisive franchise, devisive fans, if only we could live in peace
>>569460592Finally something for the lurkers in the thread
>>569462603Deep little dude. Same. Born to be a main sonic character, condemned to be random sonic citizen number 5.
>>569462549some jpfag is having a samefagging melty
Wait a minute. Is it bulmabitch?
Probably a retarded question (I don read comics) but do Archie fans think Archie Sonic acts like game Sonic? They get accused of that literally every day and I distinctly remember back in 2015 that Archie fans did not enjoy it when the comics were forced to make Sonic act a certain way. So what's the point of this debate? Who are you accusing?
>>569462707Anon, the comics can't actually do anything with characters like Shadow let alone Blaze or Silver. Or Knuckles for the matter.Only the paragons get used meaningfully because they dont require a whole ass new arc.
>>569462525>ShitkunaLMAOOOOOO>>569462691I never read Archie so I can't tell if Sonic is good or bad there
>>569461993Goodnight!>>569462598Mario is a different series that has a bigger audience, and that's okay. Sonic doesn't need to become Mario, it needs to make games that its audience enjoys
>>569462549Because no one is getting what they want.
Mania was westie garbage.Tails agrees with me
>>569462814Some do. Others don't but don't care.Others don't but do care (they want Game Sonic to act like Archie Sonic).
I'm going to go make out with Tails so I'm not so bored.
>>569461905>just using himThey already use him:>sentimentality about being in the peaceful present after living in the Iblis future>tanabata with Blaze (ripping him away from the peaceful present after he neglects his duty)>yap about hope and despair>gets pushed to the limit and clutches it out >change the course of history>gets angsty because of his strong sense of justice and gets guidance (usually from Blaze)>>569462312He's an angsty young hero of hope. I think people just want Silver exclusive lore that isn't tanabata (not gonna happen).>>569462707Silver is reasonably in-character in CrossWorlds and DC x Sonic. He was perfectly in-character in Forces.
>>569462714Yes? That's the sort of thing Item Boxes typically contain. You said they don't use them in boost games, which was true, but they brought them back in the latest game.
>>569462814Nah they are pretty damn different overall, i generally don't care about Sonic as a character enough to complain
>>569462525>Gojo is basically JPnicbased
Marine energy sex
>>569462814No, they think he's a "better" version of Sonic because he relatable or something. Weather you believe that or not ignore anyone who says they are the same character. Almost all Archiefags prefer archiesonic.
>>569462819Okay? That still doesn't solve the problem of straightening out what the characters are and how the games write them with different increasingly comic influenced personalities.
>>569462814Archiefags :LOL SEE HOW OOC SONIC IS IN THESE COMICS? ITS BETTER THAT WAYArchiefags again: Who are you mad at? Nobody is saying that... why do you care...
>>569462598>but MARIO!!!!Dude, get a grip. The series has to worry about a lot more before worrying about long dead 90s consolewar faggotry.
>>569462549I have somewhere to sleep but I don't have a bed...
>>569463057Marine sex energy.
Ban this retard
>>569462976>Silver is reasonably in-character in CrossWorldsTrue, same with IDW. Because he is cute when the stakes aren't high
>>569463018A few years ago I complimented Archie Shadow and a certain psychobitch spam replied me about how he's terrible and rapes the character.
>>569463069You aren't getting it. If Silver was used, he would have that material to work with. His character is already "straightened out". He comes from the future and has psychic powers and will be called upon when a disaster big enough happens that it affects his time period.
>>569463218At least pre-sgw Shadow is different from himself in the games, so i kinda see where that agression comes from
Mania Sonic is not Sonic
>>569462852https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UCAvYjlmWs
The Silver and Blaze hate feels so artificial and ridiculous.
>>569462976>Silver is reasonably in-character in CrossWorlds and DC x SonicNo he's not. He's still written with the Archie Trunks personality in those.>>569463241That's his job not his personality. The writers keep giving him different personalities.
>>569463106You sleep with Bump tonight.
Sonic X fags are just as bad as Archie fags when it comes to pretending Sonic X is IC. Fleetwayfags and Undergroundfags are the only ones who actually stay in their lane.
Notice how if you don't respond to him he fucks right off lol.
>>569463092They're both from the cartoon platformer era, "dewd". Mario is proving it can hang with giants, Sonic isn't. Sonic's output reeks of uncertainty for the future. It's not all about Mario...but to some extent, that isn't a strange metric at all.
>>569462998No it isn't though. Here it's used just to funnel the player into a sequence with the nuHomingAttack rather than being a hidden goodie. There isn't anything actually interesting in them like in past games because there isn't anything that can be given to you. Speed shoes and invincibility don't mean anything in the boost games for example.
>>569463218>PLEASE SONIC I BEG YOU, I AM ON MY KNEES, HELP ME, HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>569463370I'm sleeping with Sage tonight...after I make her take a bath.
>>569463479Dude, do you have socks at SEGA or something? Are you betting against Nintendo and Mario? And if so are you retarded?
Well?
>>569463213You fujos are so retarded that you can't understand characters beyond buzzwords like "cute" or "serious".
>>569463513I mean he kinda sounds like some of his more desperate lines from 05, just the early Yardley art makes him too expressive
Foid detected.Initiating mental link to beam thoughts of rape directly into their heads.
>>569463315Why don't people argue about if Sonic is OOC in the mainline games? He wasn't a comedian before Sonic colors. sthg never argues about this you just argue about the comics. His personality literally changed in Sonic colors but because Colors is a popular game nobody brings it up and instead they attack comics.
>>569463547It's a package deal.
Take the Half Life pill
>>569463367>The writers keep giving him different personalitiesLiterally just IDW. The games have him sorted just fine.Meanwhile Sonic and Amy can't get straightened out
>>569463606I should spit on you when you sleep.
>>569463761Games take priority and they tend to tolerate them more i guess
>>569463761We complain about the meta era all the time it's just that those are in the past and what we have now with the comics is way worse characterization wise.
>>569463761>>569463863>Why don't people argue about if Sonic is OOC in the mainline games?People did. To death. There isn't anything more to be said on the matter.You're showing how much of a newfag you are right now.
>>569462814Nah, as I always said, we have a lot of different sonic universe, each with their own unique characterization, world building and lore.People need to understand each universe is different, but people think every universe needs to be a carbon copy of the games.We have game sonicAosth sonicSatam sonic Underground sonicFleetway sonic (this one is a complete different dude on attitude)Archie sonicShogakukan sonic (another complete different lore and worldbuildin)The French comics sonic.Boom sonicPrime and idw are odd ones, because they supposed to happen in the actual game universe, but take it as you want.Some are more controversial than the other, but is mostly people mad forA) shipping warsB) western influence C) a specific character D) how people think a character should behave.E) actual bad writing lore and character wise in their respective universe (dark ages Archie is on of my main examples)All of them tend to be biased and non neutral.People want to focus on the game universe? Then focus on the game universe.The same can be said in every universe, is that easy.
>>569463682It's a cute and warm ship. I like it as a comfort pick.
>>569463241He has plenty of material to work with.Nobody cares when they "do things" with Silver in IDW. Nobody actually likes his fucking character. Nobody said "oh wow that's so cool Silver is going to help his people at expense to himself by forgoing spending time with Blaze (just like the tanabata myth his their relationship is based on)". It was just "guys his eyes are drawn correctly" and "guys he's crossing his legs" and "guys he's smirking".>>569463367I guess. You at least think Forces is in character right?
>>569461451>>569461986>>569462296>Complains about samefagging while blatantly samefagging.Now I wait for an inspect element screencap.
>>569463761Nobody here plays the games.
>>569463695? Is he not cute? What do you want me to call him
>>569463761....they do.
>>569463513SOMEONE CALL DR. KNUXSHADOW NEEDS HIS DAILY DOSE ASAP
>>569463906Unrelated, but this art is awesome, the kind of unity i wanted
>>569462871quantum truth nuke of centurya lot of critiques and shit flinging is straight up anger about what they like being gone like an american snack being discontinuedin here, someone is to blame whether its the fans, the critics, the developers, the corporate suits in charge, the childreneveryone is mad they fell in love with sonic, and sonic changed so someone needs to be yelled at and fingers pointed at for why
>>569463903>You're showing how much of a newfag you are right now.I felt irl embarassment just now because i forgot the term meta era
Why jpfags lack.self awareness
Archie fans have been real uppity since the day started. Why is that?
>>569463931>Nobody cares when they "do things" with Silver in IDW. Nobody actually likes his fucking character. Nobody said "oh wow that's so cool Silver is going to help his people at expense to himself by forgoing spending time with Blaze (just like the tanabata myth his their relationship is based on)". It was just "guys his eyes are drawn correctly" and "guys he's crossing his legs" and "guys he's smirking".Yes because Silver has no real stakes in anything going on right now. he is just hanging out in the present right now to just "have him around".Blaze is in the same boat and if it weren't for SEGA, Shadow and Knuckles would be as well. Its the writers in IDW's fault, not the character, baka.
>>569464112Weebs are low IQ.
Is the guy who said he likes 3d blast still here? Honest question but would you also enjoy another fixed camera game like that?
>>569463934You're not really bright are you?
>>569464003That's a big dose Doctor. Are you sure he'll be able to take it?
>>569463924It is my preferred Tails ship desu
>>569464116I just called Sonally cute >>569458439
>>569464002You can't pretend Mania is good while posting this
>>569463794>Literally just IDW. The games have him sorted just fine.No they haven't. The last four games he's been in have all written him with different personalities. TSR Silver is not like CrossWorlds Silver who is not like Mario & Sonic Silver.
I'm going to say radical opinions of mine that nobody here will agree with. This is not rage bait but I want to see what you think Sonic was OOC in SA2. If you play SA1 he didn't talk like that at all. SA1 Sonic wasn't snarky and smarmy, he was tough and nice. He made one or two quips in that entire game. SA2 Sonic opens up with a joke like he's trying to be cool. He talks in that goofy tone that wasn't in SA1 for the whole game. "You've turned into a big time villain Doctor!" doesn't sound like the same Sonic from SA1. I can't imagine the Sonic in the CD intro talking like this. When he started telling annoying jokes in the meta era that wasn't different from SA2 to me.
>>569464112They don't want to admit that all the problems they have come from Japan and not western devs. They are right that Sonic makes less lame jokes in Japan though, but that's it
Archie was even OOC within itself. It's own OCs would suddenly act different and the already different acting game cast would act even more different randomly. The biggest culprit for the latter is Shadow, who gained a a completely different personality when Ian wrote the book.
>>569463350Why should I care about their relationship as a Blaze fan? It's a totally seperate appeal that has nothing to do with her character. You can't even explain why they're together without introducing some conceit that has no basis in her lore.
>>569464212If we're talking about only the game cast then I agree.
>>569464246I don't play Sonic. I thought this was the Genshin General.
>>569464251>TSR Silver is not like CrossWorlds Silver who is not like Mario & Sonic Silver.Explain without appealing to the VA being different.
>>569464198You just proved that post right lil bro.
A Sonic characterization debate? Without THIS PAGE? Come on guys.
>>569464304I completely agree. Maekawa and Nishiyama's Sonics are totally different.
>Playing video games>Playing Sonic video gamesWhere do you think (You) are?
>>569464198He thinks we all samefag like he has to unironically.
>>569464203YESALL FOUR HEADS
>>569463931No one gives a shit about tanabata you. The American writers have no idea what that even is.
>>569464390Well, I'm talking overall, but mostly because the game cast is what matters most to me. I did love Tailsmo thoughever.
>>569464550Sonic has games?
>>569464550I play Shadow games
>>569464356Anon read the fucking post I typed out before replying. I mentioned nothing about Silvaze.Reading comprehension motherfucker, do you have it?
>>569464485All those games have the same VA.
>>569464356I don't get this personally. As an Amyfan, I generally look to build as many connections with other characters as possible because it means more interesting dynamics in the future and possibility for meaningful application of the character,Blaze and Silver are both isekai characters that protect the smiles of their respective worlds. The connection is there. Outside of ship rivalry autism, I don't see the reason to act like there is 0 value in it.
>>569464023We can only dream buddy, I forgot sonic x and movie sonic on my post.Have another multiverse pic.
Some refer to me as Jonathan.
>>569463960He isn't as cute as Shadow or Infinite
>>569464526This is quite literally what you get when you allow a Sonallyfag to write Sonic's character and wrangle him with mandates. A mangled disingenuous preacher who follows some psychotic "freedom philosophy". Now he doesn't have any of the romantic development or teen attitude that made him appealing to Archiefags or any of the hype and and tone that made him appealing to gamefags. The worst of both worlds. I know the way I worded this pins it on Sonallyfags but anyone is going to be bad if you filter all of their habits through mandates with the opposite ideal.
>>569464526This page obliterated Archiefags who insisted gamefags were making shit up about Sonic's canon personality and that Sonic "had no real character in the games so he might as well just be supplanted by Archienic"
>>569463682I don't like the trope of leftovers beginning to date just because.
>>569464251Let's see, in Crossworlds >Silver gets mad at the bad guys and threatens them for being evil>They tell them to call downHow is this different from TSR or the Olympics? You just hate that Ian/Evan won and he is allowed to show his less serious side with hai friends. It's hilarious that Aurafags ask for more flanderization when Sonicfags always cherry pick the little details that makes Sonic look bad
>Duofag samefagging while accusing others of samefagging for badmouthing the shitty comics while using his same buzzwords in the samw breath
>>569464550Yes.
Archie fans hate Sonic.
>>569464618For me it's Li-Moon, Zooey and then Cream.
>>569465003DOUBLE BOOST
>>569463906The post with more common sense on this whole thread.Here have another pic, I'm pretty sure you were the one who posted it in a very similar past post you made.
>>569465051I wouldn't go THIS far.
>>569464162>Silver has no stakes in anythingAnd he never will. He doesn't have any personal stakes in anything. >>569464779You said Silver and Blaze I thought you meant them as a pair.>>569464796We've had 20 years of in-sync mirror crap and all anyone cares to say is that they still have "potential". It's not been interesting to anyone except shippers.
>>569464930This page isn't even archie.
>>569465109TO-GETHER, WE CAN SHOW THE WORLD WHAT WE CAN DO!YOU ARE NEXT TO EM AND I'M NEXT TO YOU!>>569465201>And he never will. He doesn't have any personal stakes in anything.He did in metal Virus. Wdym.Technically he is supposed to be in the present right now because there is something he is supposed to do and just doesn't know it.
>>569465003Close enough
post your favorite reaction pic
>>569464993>jpfags!>weebs!Next we'll see Sonamy randomly brought up as a boogeyman. It's so predictable.
>>569465323This one.
>>569465250>i didn't say it was. illiterate-kun.Im saying the page blew them the fuck out.>>569465201>We've had 20 years of in-sync mirror crap and all anyone cares to say is that they still have "potential". It's not been interesting to anyone except shippers.Literally no one even brought it up except for you. It lives in your head rent free. It's genuinely concerning.
Not fooling anyone, faggot
What about Dark Duo?
>>569464526>I live for the moment, adventure etcHow is this wrong?>I want everyone to get freedomHOW IS THIS WRONG?>I have enough experience to give you an olive branchThere is nothing wrong with this
>>569465179Would you? Every Archiefag would be happy if the game canon died and was replaced with the Archie canon. IDW fags are exactly the same. If Silver acted like "Uwuver" forever they would be fine with it. They don't see the game canon as a real story that people enjoy, they just see it as the "template" that can get replaced by their comics. Look at all the Sallyfaggots in the thread who would be EXCITED if Sonic's personality was torn apart in the games for shipping. That's how every single comicfag is.These are people who don't value the games .You know why? because they don't see anything wrong with getting rid of Sonic's personality in the games. In fact they want him gone because his personality is the biggest obstacle to their headcanons. I used to think it was possible for people to just "live and let live" for the comics. Not be a "purist" but I learned that comicfags are also purists themselves.Every Archiefag in this thread would be happy if game Sonic's personality never appeared again and he was replaced with Archie Sonic.
>>569463906I wish we had more people like you man, thanks for posting such a good pic.
Cream is for Shadow (he will wait at least 6 years before responding to her affections in any meaningful way).
>>569465295>Technically he is supposed to be in the present right now because there is something he is supposed to do and just doesn't know itSilver is going to clue into some evil scheme, he's going to overreact and commit some faux pas, he's going to get chewed out, then he's going to mope, ultimately be proven correct, then go back to Blaze
>>569465250shhhhh let him dig
>>569464975Ian and Evan's Silvers are the exact opposite of SegaSonic Silver in a dozen different aspects. They are not honest, not straightfoward, not impolite, not goal focused, not hot-blooded, not confident, not capable, not delinquent-ish and they talk completely differently. They are the opposite of SegaSonic Silver not a different side to him like you keep trying to cope.
>>569465323
>>569465336they already did over here lol >>569459769>>569465201Blaze hasn't done anything in 20 years in general and Silver has done very little himself. So its not even really a question of having a lot of time to do anything. The series was basically in a recession as far as any of its extended characters and content was concerned. We JUST got Shadowfags serviced the other year.
>>569465323I like their expressions, that count right?
>>569465603Where's the lie? Windfags hate Sonally and Sonamy alike. Sonamyfags just larp as windfags whenever they want to shame other ships.
Is he right?>>>/co/154051230
>Lesbians
This moment is where the Sonic universe "died", and entered the zombie state it is now.
>>569463335It's fine... I wish Sonic was more popular too, but I don't want that to come at the expense of why I like Sonic in the first place. The Sonic series appeals to me in ways that are at odds with what would appeal to a larger audience
>>569465705I thought sthg told me archiefags didn't hate the Sonic from the games?
>>569465295"I need to save the future" isn't a personal stake. Saving the future because of a strong sense of justice is weak shit. He has more personal stake gardening.>>569465395>I thought you meant then as a pair>>569465603Silver had done plenty it's just that nobody appreciates his direction except shippers.
>>569465705They've pandered almost exclusively to westerners since 2009 what the fuck is this guy talking about
Begone hole.
>>569465754
>>569465705What the FUCK is going on? /vg/ talks about comic shit and shipfaggotry and hentai all day while /co/ is discussing game design philosophy???
>>569465793JPfag favorite game
>>569465826That's just an archiefag complaining about the fact that their shitty romance garbage was removed from the comics
>>569465824The garden is dead and gone stop bringing it up Tanabataschizo.
>>569464526Do people really got mad about this? Geez, an actual book would be a challenge.
>>569465705He's a boring mascot character, but that's because they've tied to make him appeal to a mass audience. The end result is the same though. Nobody cares about Sonic anymore.
silver needs a mentor
>>569465935You're not wrong that 90% of /sthg/ doesn't play the games but you chose a bad thread to post this in because there was unironically game design philosophy just a few posts up
>>569465824>Silver had done plentylike?>"I need to save the future" isn't a personal stake. Given he literally comes from said future, yes it is.
>>569465705>Wolfes are coolerJapan would love Drago
>>569466019Make it Fiona.
>>569464526>>569465956Ian already explained that this is just Surge's perspective.
>>569465810I believe the Sonic that appeals to me is something a lot of people would like if it were used to its full potential. That's all. I don't think it's living up to its potential.
canon jet and canon silver basically act like archienic minus the romance
>>569466075>this is just Surge's perspective.How are the words coming out of Sonic's mouth Surge's perspective?
>sharktale faggot hates Sonic 2 tooThis cancer latches on everything
>>569466082Maybe that's true, but it seems to me that you were arguing that if it were taken to its full potential and the audience still wasn't the biggest in the world then changing it to be fundamentally different would be "good for the series", which I disagree with
>>569466075>>569465956Yeah the moment is supposed to be an SA1-style moment where Surge is hearing the worst possible version of Sonic's perspective through her own bias. The cover art also makes it clear that is what we're supposed to see. You're seeing Sonic through Surge's eyes. Ian is actually committing to how the games handle Sonic's character when you play as other people. When you play as Shadow Sonic is annoying, when you play as Tails Sonic is above you It's like that. The meta era was so long that people forgot this is a thing.
>The shadougefag had a melty in a co thread about Rouge fucking other people Kek, sadouche
>>569466193I wish zavokfag would obliterate sharktalefag
>>569465694I don't care about Sonally. I find Westnic to be a generic smarmy jock and Sally to be a generic trophy girlfriend who keeps him in check. Not for me but good for those that like it.My issue is you bringing it up for no other reason than to try and instigate shit.> Sonamyfags just larp as windfags whenever they want to shame other ships.I've literally only seen the opposite, frankly.People larp as windfags when its time to crap on Sonamy just because its the most popular ship. But no one really brings it up for other ships at this point.
>>569463906Don't forget F) biased hatred for an specific writer.
>>569463370
>>569466221That's not where I'm coming from. I expect more from Sonic because I think highly of it. If it's fundamentally changed I wouldn't care how well it did anymore because it would cease to be Sonic. I say reaching as many people as possible in the sense of Sonic reaching as many people as possible, not random video game mascot #58 reaching as many people as possible. The realm of possibility is restricted to who Sonic can appeal to, I just happen to think that number is massive.
>>569466193I swear everything by him is fueled by being a contrarian.And I know he used to browse this fuck hell place too, it's just that he left because nobody bothered to pay attention to him.
>>569465952He wants an apple orchard. Seeing it grown in the future so he could idk make pies for people in future Soleanna or something would be more compelling than whatever potentialfags want him to do.>>569466045Would you care if Shadow wanted to save the earth without Maria?
>>569465561I don't feel like I am the one coping anon. All Ian and Evan do with Silver find a justification in the games, it's not like Archie Sonic who is totally OOC.Silver in the comics is everything he is in the games and more, because the writers do actually care about him.>not straightfowardHe went straight to disable Starline's base without any chitchat>not impoliteTo people who aren't his friends>not goal focusedGot a chapter all to himself and Espio to talk about how wrong it felt to not have a goal right now>not hot-bloodedFunny you say this because he is the most expressive character in the comic and shows his excitement for every little thing. Maybe you have a different definition of what hot blodded means>not confident, not capableNever was>not delinquent-ish and they talk completely differently.Your head canon
>>569466075You can tell Ian made this up after the backlash lol.
>shipperfag does not understand sonic's characteryeah no shit let me guess pokemon shippers can't understand ash ketchum either rightlmao this is not news
>>569466169Sonic's rivals are either SatAM Sonic or inversions of Sonic.
>>569466405>Would you care if Shadow wanted to save the earth without Maria?Yes?
Funniest post of the week
>>569466604But why? He would have no stakes? He would just show up.
>>569466550>Knuckles >stoic>not hotheaded
>>569466395Alright then, I agree with you, I'm just not sure if the amount of potential fans is that big. I think most people would be indifferent to Sonic or would hate it, while certain other series have more reach. I'd like to be proven wrong though
It's funny that Sonic characterization purists get angry over old IDW pages and ANCIENT archie pages when they already won. They successfully scared all the comic writers into only writing Sonic like he's from SA2 and nothing else. Ian doesn't even want to talk to you faggots anymore. Meanwhile if you're a Silverfag you're in fucking hell. You're stuck with uwu babby Silver forever and Sega won't change it because they don't care.
>>569466475Pokemon characters barely have character. The deadly Six unironically have more going on than the average Pokemon character,
>>569466629I said it before, I wish someone could make a reply pic, because that shit had no right to be that funny, specially after digimon, naruto and bleach got involved.Makes you realize why shipping sucks too, pokemon fans got into another level.
>>569466781True. The anime has more going on at least, most of the game characters have zero personality or anything unique about them beyond their designs
>>569466718Whoever made that image must have been thinking of movie knuckles since knuckles hasn't been stoic since literally sa1 >>569466781I dare you to go to a pokemon general and say this
>>569466756ABT still needs to submit and put humans in IDW.
>>569466697Shadow actually lives on the Earth the story takes place in. So it matters if only because it's where he lives.
>>569466629Dropping Adventure Time as an example is the funniest part for me. That show really must've gone full fucking stupid if it is being used to highlight the mental illnesses of pokemon shippers
>>569466887Poketards have arrested development and think Gen 5 is a good and deep story. They don't play anything else.
I'm sorry for ruining this thread
>>569466845Actually it gave me the opposite feeling. That thread taught me that Sonic shippers aren't really that bad and that it could be so much fucking worse
>>569466629That post gave me a new reaction pic.
>>569467010Regular Show chads won
>>569466629I saw nothing wrong with this post outside it maybe being off topic in this general
>>569467123It's a samefagged post.
>>569467123The post itself is based. It's the insanity around it
>>569467018Anon please, we're in a glass house.
>>569467034Pokemon shippers have been kind of crazy since the 00s but XY made it fucking ridiculous
>>569466446Your gaslighting isn't working uwufoid, Archie and GOTF are not remotely the same characters as SegaSonic Silver. Stop defending something that's already been corrected.
>>569467214I checked the archives and you're right lol.Wow that is sad.
>>569466629It is sad that characters who are copies of Ash can get girlfriends but ship wars ruined it for Ash himself
>>569466629Everything this anon said is bullshit >You just have to accept that your ship is wrong even though the writers teased all of themNo. Don't play with the audience then. You fucked around, now you find out *Burns pokemon headquartered with everyone inside* And deserved
>>569466629My thing is... Mistyfags didn't want to lose, so they made sure nobody won. That's a victory isn't it?
>>569466759I thought this was a bunch of characters stuck in Lanolin's wool from the thumbnail.
>>569467327Uh? I was talking about IDW. I only said IDW Silver made sense and Archie Sonic did not. That's why I talked about Starline.
>>569467220Nta, but how so? It was for the crazy Pokémon fans? Or anon getting extremely mad about shippers ruining ash getting the girl.Personally it got a laugh out of me, because deep down, he's right.
>>569467465Mistyfags basically got the closest to winning anyway because they did one last final mini-season that was basically just a victory lap where Ash, Misty, and Brock went around the world for like a dozen episodes to wrap up loose ends
Why do we have to forgive IDW Silver? He doesn't act like that in the fucking games. Case closed. If this happened to Sonic you would get seething for decades
I miss Schizonic.
>>569466918So you only want Silver to show up if the future is involved and that's enough for you just because he lives there? That's some pretty weak shit. We already did that and it demonstratably wasn't enough.Bringing it back, you asked >>569466045 >like?He went Super Silver with Sonic to stop the Metal Virus and changed history to restore the blue skies of the future. Same thing in Forces. Everything Silver fans claim he needs to be fixed has already been tried and yet his fans still find him lacking. My point is that he isn't even good or memorable even when he's done correctly.
You can stop samefagging now little bro.
>>569467598He does. You don't like it? Then go suck it to Shadow or Sonic
>>569467637Good? Evil? I don't care about any of that! All I care about is doing what I, Sonic the Hedgehog, think is right!
>>569459867You would think Ian would quit doing this after getting called out for it constantly.
>>569467589Yeah exactly. That post is framing it as if shippers suicide bombed but that's not what happened. They sperged out until Nintendo decided pissing them off wasn't worth it and they got episodes about their favorite girl whole the "enemy" girl only got cameos. They won by eliminating the threat of romance. If all of what he said is true then that's good. Pokemon shouldn't have romance stories.
Mania was OOC
>>569466629It really gave me a good laugh, ships were so serious in pokemon, people actually sent death threats to writers, and those people actually got scared of it.
>>569467764The anime ends with Ash and Pikachu going off on another adventure and that's an infinitely better ending than devolving into ship garbage bullshitIt's unironically pretty similar to people who think Sonic should end with Sonic getting married to Amy/Sally/Blaze/Surge/Tails/Eggman/Zavok/Big/whoever and settling down instead of just continuing to be who he is
>>569467637But he gets a lot of art like this every now and then though. Like he is actually evil even if he was never portrayed like this ever
>>569459867>No Surge Reverse FlashSo was Rough and Tumble being in issue 1 a fluke? There haven't been any other IDW characters in the DC crossover.
Sonic is villainous
>>569464526Sounds like Jap Sonic to me.
>shoots tails>doesn't careGreat character
Fuck it. If I head one day that Sega was going to make Sonamy canon and Sonallyfags had a schizo freakout until Sega decided that its best to never have Sonic in a relationship then I would thank Sonallyfags for making Sonic a better franchise.
>>569467885Because despite the IDW OCs being pushed as "canon" Sega doesn't really consider them part of the main brand.
Are all shippers female?
>>569467589>>569467764>>569467861Nobody fucking won on pokemon what are you guys saying.The last 13 episodes were just nostalgia original season bait, not because misty had an actual chance.Serena was the closest one to win, and still lost to be reduced into a cameo, thanks to crazy people.
>>569468084No I love shipping
>>569458504>Best for the fans and best for the series are the same thing.
>>569467649>So you only want Silver to show up if the future is involved and that's enough for you just because he lives there?No, I'm saying Silver not being from this time means him simply being here isn't enough to justify something as simple as saving the world being compelling for him as a character specifically.>We already did that and it demonstratably wasn't enough.People hyped the hell out of it. Silver just hasn't has a scenario that warrants or justifies his including meaningfully to where it doesn't feel like you could swap him out for anyone else.>>569467649>He went Super Silver with Sonic to stop the Metal VirusI'm talking about the games. That stuff in IDW happened at the literal tale end of those 20 years lol. And people loved it. But its still just the comics which can't do anything more with the character.
>>569468084No I'm male and work for UPS.
>>569467589>winning = standing next to each other in the last few episodes>wrap up loose endsThat's not what happened, they had random adventures that didn't have anything to do with anything prior
>>569468084Not. male shipper
>>569468098I don't think I worded it right. I meant that the mistyfags who sperged out with the intent of making serena lose "won" in the sense that they stopped the win condition of their enemy(according to that post). They didn't "win" because their ship is still not canon. Does that make sense?
>>569467761He does it because he is a hack and relies on it in place of actual dialogue of substance.
>>569468084yes
>>569468216>>569467589>>569468098Misty got one last blushing scene. To a deranged shipper that's basically a blowjob. Serena's kiss was the same as marriage.
>>569468241Not him but I see what you meant now
>>569467268Sonicfags admit their shit isn't the deepest and that they want hype moments and aura. But even we have more substance than Gen 5 Pokemon.
Which Sonic characters give the best head?
When you think about it, Mephiles predicted Zamasu.
>>569468098Literally none of those posts say that someone won Pokemon other than people winning in the sense that no one won
>>569468241nta but I get what you're saying>I need don't to win. I just need my enemy to lose
>>569466629For real, how come a sonic thread post could be so right about the fandom of the original Pokémon anime.I'm more surprised no one even tried to post it on the actual pokemon board.
>>569468413Shadow, because he's the best at everything!
>>569468475Sexnic
>>569467303Pokemon fans are objectively worse than Sonic fans. No one has ever heard of Sonic fans scaring official writers with death threats so much that they had to pass official mandates. Even Sonamyfags vs Sonallyfags didn't cause such drama.
>>569468084shipping autism is far comfier than power-scaling autism because a character can become "multiversal" for the smallest thing even though the source material clearly never intended it to be.
>>569468413
>>569468475sega of america: dude memes lolsega of japan: i want to fuck sonic
Vector fucking Espio
>>569468531Fangs scraping your dick.
>>569468572Lost World was actually animated very well too bad the entire story is abyssal shit worse than the worst of archie including that moment where sonic mocks tails parents
>>569468475I don't understand how people can be entirely anti-JP with this series when SoJ constantly does shit like this while SoA is constantly walking on eggshells with literally anything that isn't extremely sanitizedEven if you don't want to fuck Sonic or the blobians surely you have to prefer people who are actually passionate about what they make instead of those who are constantly making sure they don't get assblasted by focus groups
>>569468570>shipping autism is far comfier than power-scaling autism becShut your whore mouth.
>>569468731Gold projecting lesbian mind wavesGold getting rejected by girls anyways
>>569468404I fucking knew it.
>>569468274I mean I would say it's because he's an arrogant prick and you can hear it in his tone every time he opens his fat mouth, but that's also true.
>>569468739> worse than the worst of archie including that moment where sonic mocks tails parentsLets not get carried away
>powerscalers dramaannoying young men arguing about who would win in a fight because they like the series too much. They'll yell and argue about dumb details nobody cares about for days at a time but thats all>shipping dramaactual fucking psychopaths who people will have boardroom meetings about
Sonic characters for this feel?https://files.catbox.moe/pj6vwj.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/33g10a.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/z5npiv.jpg
>>569468926Drago
>>569468926Sonic
I like the Sonic 4 soundtrack. I feel I would like it more if the instrument choices were more like the Adventure games, and I think some of the official remixes of the Sonic 4 soundtrack achieve that feel. But at the same time, I like Senoue's Classic style music in general. People think they always use the same few "Genesis midi" instruments, but that isn't really true, though I guess it's missing the electric guitar which is otherwise really common in Senoue's music, right? I think the thing that defines Senoue's Classic style music more than anything else is the drum (I think that's what it's called) which originates from some tracks in Sonic 1 and 2, except Senoue uses it in pretty much every track and makes it a lot more noticeable, and I've come to realize I like that. It's heavily associated with Sonic (or now Classic Sonic since it seems SEGA wants to tie it to that brand specifically) and this aspect is missing in those remixes I was talking about earlier. It's also used heavily in the Classic remix of Escape from the City which I also like
People here talk as if mistyfags were the only deranged force on pokemon, when every ship was involved in that shitfest.Mistyfags just were the worst.
>>569465705Archiebros vindicated
>>569468764Make better games then
>>569466629>pokeshit shipping>shipping in generalThank god I was only ever obsessed with a crummy pail of water as a young lad.
>>569469037All us maychads did was talk about her tits
>>569468412Or any other main Pokémon game.
>>569468926GeoffreyGadgetInfinite after taking his Prozac.
>>569468904Women…
>>569468475Uuuuuu bratty blue rat...needs sex correction...
>>569468926Sex with Freckle!
>>569469037people are bitter about mistyfags since she is the only one aside from dawn who actually got episodes to herself in JN and yes they were the most autistic and aggressive
>>569469027https://youtu.be/kKfoeJq99fAI like this remix of Splash Hill. It sounds kinda like Station Square.
>>569469037Serena fans were involved? It was pretty clear she was the actual endgame, why fight for the obvious?
>>569468186>simply saving the world isn't compelling for him as a character specifically>the comics which can't do anything more with the characterOkay, so you are claiming "IDW has given us all he's got but it's not enough because the comics are limited." and "The reason he's not a compelling character because the games haven't given us enough to work with".I completely disagree. I don't think there's much more to his character beyond what Sonic Team has laid out. He's just very theme-driven and unfortunately those themes barely involve him. Saving the future to protect the blue skies and all the sentimentality involving that including Blaze is *supposed to be* enough for Silver fans.Yes you could expand on him with more lore but I genuinely don't think you can do anything with him other than redressing 06 and the Iblis stuff (which begets amnesia and time erasure which doesn't change the status quo).
>>569468475Based, never let normalfags make you feel uncomfortable for wanting to fuck mobians
>>569469037you're making it very obvious you're a mistyfag with how insistent you are about this.>>569469112Gen 7 story actually has stuff, though it isn't even on the level of Gamma from SA1.
>>569468183>void
SHIPPING IS FUCKING BASED
Wolfes are cooler.
>>569469104>>569469112>>569469165>>569469191>>569469279>>>/vp/ >>>/trash/
>>569469279Dude, I'm specifically complaining about mistyfags, I'm just saying every pokegirl fans got involved defending their respective ships.Truth to be told, I was a Lilliefag, but not in that kind of crazy way.
>>569469246>Yes you could expand on him with more lore but I genuinely don't think you can do anything with him other than redressing 06 and the Iblis stuff (which begets amnesia and time erasure which doesn't change the status quo).I disagree with that for the same reason I always disagreed with people that said Shadow should have stayed dead.The lost Android and Black Arms subplots gave Shadow enough stuff to have a material to work with into the future while staying true to the themes of the character.Silver can be given new stuff in the same way, and frankly doesn't have much of a choice given he is a character originally defined by an arc.
>>569469268Saving this pic to make fun of furries.
>>569469195Yep, that's one of the ones I was thinking of. I like it a lot too, it could fit right in into Sonic Adventure. I wish we had remixes like this for the other zones as well, though as I said I recently realized I wouldn't consider them full replacements for the originals as I would miss some aspects of them
Amy of War
>>569469383Alright, quiz time. It is confirmed ooc for Sonic or Rouge to have kids. Both were officially said to never want kids. But if they fucked and Rouge gor pregnant what would happen? Would Rouge abort the baby? Would they raise the kid?
>>569468475Yes. You understand Sonic.
>>569469493>To make fun of furriestBut justifying what we like?
>>569468904strange isn't it how both groups are close to waifufags and will draw (offensive) images in emotional states, yet only one will carry out physical acts in real life
>>569469529What would be the normie reaction to something like that
>>569469037
>>569469456>lillieWell at least you like a character that's actually a character.>>569469504People are hard on the Sonic 4 OST but the compositions are actually great as much as many people don't like the instrumentation.But I think even those are a bit overhated.
>>569468781Shipping.>I fully acknowledge these characters barely interact and have almost nothing in common, but I ship them just because I want to lolpowerscaling>NO DUDE YOU DON'T GET IT THIS CHARACTER CAN DESTROY AN ENTIRE MULTIVERSE BECAUSE THEIR ATTACK IS STATED TO BE REALLY POWERFUL>IGNORE THE FACT IT BARELY DESTROYED A BUILDING BTW
>>569466629Is good to know we still have funny and whacky posts and replies like this.They use to be more common in the past.Do some of you were on the original ride, when titan tails got into the story? Boy it was magical, one of the few times I almost passed out just for laughing for the replies.
>>569469536*Sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiif*
>>569469623>>569469685>when a powerscaler is having a meltysay they're acting like an annoying little kid>when a shipperfag is having a meltymake sure all of your personal information is anonymous
>>569469532To be accurate. Naka said "I can't imagine Sonic ever settling down and having a wife and kids". So it's less Sonic doesn't want kids and more he would be too busy and prioritizing his freedom and adventuring to be thinking about that.
>>569469595by going the route of the faggot and making it your entire personality, duh. Happy Pride Month!
>>569469651This was the post that made eggman anon ultra mad.
>>569468084All shippers are female when the self insert (Sonic) is male. No different than Evangelion
>>569469796Sonic comes back from an adventure>Woah, there's mini me!
>>569469685>I fully acknowledge these characters barely interact and have almost nothing in common, but I ship them just because I want to lolSo we're just lying?Both are bad but shipping is worse.
>>569469685If you were in a room full of 100 sonamyfags would you feel comfortable saying that you ship sonurge
>>569469989>>569469989>>569469989
>>569469885Duofag is a girl?
>>569469651>>569469730I'd take 50 powerscalers over 2 shippers
>>569469901wdym?>>569469754you have no idea the depths of insanity powerscaling can reach
>>569469998No, but I wouldn't say Sonic beats Goku in a room of DBfags either
>>569468926Freckle my beloved
>>569470094Powerscaling is obnoxious but it only really gets toxic when people refuse to separate it from discussion from the series. Which is something shippers are incapable of doing by default.
>>569469901Nta, but pretty much right on shipping.Both are terrible, but shipping people have very simple-minded actions, while powerscalers are complicated over the top mental gymnastics to say a characters is more powerful, than another.They tend to loose the gimmick on some characters, saitama is the main example.He's mostly a joke character, his whole gimmick is wining in one punch, but his fans took him very seriously when he shouldn't be on the powerscale on the first place, arale from Dr slump is on the same boat, but her fans actually know she's that strong for jokes and gags. Even dragon ball mock this when she beats vegeta with a headbutt.
>>569463761>Why don't people argue about if Sonic is OOC in the mainline games?Were you in a coma
Cream is a member of the Rabbit clan.
>>569470519Saitama himself is not a joke character. Him 1 shotting things is meant to be an exploration of futility and tragedy in not being able to feel satisfied after you gain the thing you believed you wanted, and trying to find meaning in the world in spite of that.People that reduce him to a joke character to win versus debates are no better than the people that get autistic about him being "moon-level at best lmao" or whatever.A sincere conversation about how a match up between characters is an interesting convo. powerscalers just farm wank and make it masturbatory.
>>569470827See what I mean? This guy? powerscaler.
>>569469730This is bestieanon. If not literally then spiritually.
>>569471074Not even a powerscaler. You just didn't watch the anime.
