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good thread
Saint bros?
>>569450942you don't understand, putting myself in furiten, calling riichi anyway and dealing in was the correct playI like watching
>commentatorkeks didn't even notice the furiten
EAT LOUDER
What the cat doin'
>too poor to buy cheating toolsGodbless the repo and the free learning resources...
I had a dream where I subbed in but instead of mahjong we were playing some racing game and I did an exploit where I trapped the 3 other players in a spot that was impossible to escape. Thread was shouting for TO to stop me but he decided to give me the win instead.
>>569451386sounds like a good dream
>>569451356mortalbot itself is open source train your own
>>569451652What's the point of doing that when I can just play mahjong myself and train my brain instead?
>>569451356>freeNot for longYou think I'm going to port all the broken browser/mjs+ mods for desktop client for free?
>>569451779Yes, chop chop.
>>569451779What the fuck...
>>569451717Can your brain withstand 2000 games in one year?
>>569451717true!
>>569451917it's only like 4 hours of mahjong a dayI already withstand 8 hours of waging so surely I could do that if I were a neet
>>569451917Probably yeah.But quality training is more important than quantity.
2,650 logs are downloading
>>569452195How do you plan to account for his discards made to tank his mortal score?
>>569452195I fucking kneel
>>569452195rookie numbers
CLICK LOUDER
Why does /mjg/ keep trying to destroy sanma TO's team?
>>569452195how
>deranker celestial getting live coached by frank during his game
>>569453150it's funny cause frank is a below looper level shitter who thinks he's a high level player
I HATE CHINESE FAGGOTS SO MUCH GET OFF MY SERVER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>569453446床前明月光,疑是地上霜。举头望明月,低头思故乡。
>>569453446https://youtu.be/3MU_6BPKmBg?si=GPE0filHjYOgjGyh
>>569453639What is the point of this supposed to be?
this bunny is going to go missing like the others
Please don't go missing while hiking with sprout bunny
Tell us where the bodies are hidden sprout
Fuck Hisa
>>569453751audio shitpostinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJs04lHumSA
They're going for a walk together!
>>569454148There's already a video showing the location, just get your detective on it.Oh wait.
>>569454448Hoshinooooooooo!
>>569454448He didn't go negative
>9 draws with 7 in the wall>ryuukyoku
Uh... joblestial bros?
holy shit, look at this hag!
genuinely nothing more mindnumbing than playing a league game where some kekspert looper gets 60k ahead and you're forced to eat shit for the entire hanchan and eventually get 4th because of some bullshit you can't avoidno i'm none of the current players
>>569452786because he didn't make the certificates
A HAG DID THE SORRY~ EMOTE WHILE I DEALT INTO HERI HATE RANKED AND I HATE HAGS
Kingdom of Heaven (2005)cynthia-7.png
genuinely nothing more satisfying than playing a league game where some saint jobbers deal into me until I'm 60k ahead and they're struggling like bugs against each other doing their best to avoid deathyes i'm one of the current players
>been on a losing streak, felt bad>suddenly a winning streak with my mentaru recoveringthey're gonna think I turned the bot on, aren't they?
>>569455507Stream it.
>>569455645bro thinks he's someone :skull:
>>569455645 no you're gonna loo p
>>569455645as long as you don’t have the winning streak all the way to Saint 3 and then start a losing streak
>cutting 8p from that handHoly FUCK, what are you doing
WHAT IS THIS NIGGER DOING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>gigaretard
HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THAT HAIPAI
>oh no no no no he's furiten
He missed suuankou tenpai, by the way.
NEVERPUNISHED
holy based
TO, check table a!
I have to turn the stream off, because all these songs are making me feel nostalgic.
didnt ask
>>569456272Owned that fag
>play like an absolute retard>get rewarded anyway over and over and over
Commentators: wtf, he's damaing the 12k hand with a wait that's genbutsu against the three call toitoi?
COME ON, HAG! DONT LOSE TO THAT FAG!
>misses chiitoi iishanten>misses sanshoku
I'm so glad I didn't play today
>>569455668after the game, if enough people care, I can
>Fight Club is winningDump it
losing to these retards, etc.
any niche anime recommendation?
>>569456728sylds please
>hag first again due to cat
Of course that nigger faggot kamicha needs all the same tiles and won't give me fuckall to chii. Of course that gay twat toimen has the same yakuhai pair. Of course that cocksucker shimocha is going for somete with my overflown tiles.
>>569456728akagi
>>569456728Detective Conan
>>569456728steins;gate, bocchi the rock
>discarding suji toitsu
I'm giving you me force, hag!
>>569453292HOLY TRVKE
Should've gone tanyao nyagger
>-10k >riichi nomiso this is the power of a celestial
is this an offline collaboration or is the mics just off
>>569457493two of the people have terrible mics, crackhead has like a fan or tv in the background fucking with the noise cancelling
>>569457475*former celestial
>I'm missing the joblestial games
>>569457554we call him the saintlestial
Why wouldn't you riichi that?
>>569457550and here I was thinking that I wasn't invited to something
>he ronskipped the first time on purpose to target 1st placeholy
HOLY SHIT LET'S GO
STOP THE RIGGING!
They're calling it the most undeserved win of the league
giggarigged
>>569457837my team needs this I'm sorry anon
I'M LOSING TO THIS FUCKING RETARD
>>569457687/mjg/ doesn't understand the purpose of damaten
>>569457837No, that's mine
>>569456728Sonny BoyPing Pong The Animation
>>569457837t. hag
will fight club finally stream fight club
>40 year old boomers making 67 jokes
Get the rooster on the mic.
>>569457952what site can I get away with it on
Sex With 4th Place
>>569458003fc2. stream japanese dub
GET THE ROOSTER ON THE MIC
>>569456728Anything pre-202 is niche now. Go watch Crest of the Stars
alright, very funny. now turn off the hack
>>569458051the bitrate is gonna be so ass though
The ghostly gooner returns
>>569458051Do I risk a third U-NEXT dmca
>>569456728Patlabor
>missed ippatsu tsumohag...
>chicken
>>569456728Rozen Maiden
>>569456728Romance of the three kingdoms
can someone get me the cat's mortal ranking after this game using the log editor
PUT THE ROOSTER ON THE MIC
End this match already. I'm getting really sleepy
Based kuro
>>569458915Thanks you brown loli
hag, you did well. stay proud
>>56945854283.2
I played pretty well I think considering the situation.
>>569459081there's no way chiitoi forcing gets you 83
hey commentator, show your cock
>coping streamLets go!
uh oh melty
ikishimamidari-0.png
ngl my mental would break from that game too
ESL babble melty kino on the telly
We need more stuff like this in league
papa and his boyfriend are fighting
bra-fucking-vo burgerkeks.
I made myself a table that only has the base point values, because I thought it'd be easier to memorize
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeSzdEah7tE&t=8043s
Save the timestamp for the highlight video
>two retards fighting
performative esl keks...
Interesting, so according to MAKA when defending against two richis it seem genbutsu + sotogawa one chance is better than inner suji against bothI guessing the sotogawa tilted its decision here since one chance is less safe than inner suji?I am glad my suspicions about the haku were founded at least.
IT"S CALLED BASED RETARD
>>569459605suji gets more worthless the later it is
Good day, mahjong...
43+24
>>569459605it's 8p kabe
>>569459605It's kabe not sotogawa and you see all four 9p, so it was completely safe
>>569459596the whole schizo/occult ranting feels very performative in general
>>569459671it's called soul
I'd have won
>>569459671
>>569459605you can see all of the 9p and 8p is kabe so 9p can't deal in
holy ragetyping
>>569459605sotogawa kabe, not 1 chance, and also genbutsu
>CHI PON *unintelligible nonsense* CELESTIAL *underwater noise* YOU LOST
>>569459716ah..... yeah that would do it. I was so busy looking at the pool I missed my hand oops.
>>569459605>sotogawaYou can see all the 8p and 9p on the bakyou. It can't even deal into kokushi because 1m and nan are dead so it's literally genbutsu.
Now what, /mjg/?
No Prep RX7 Build. Can't Believe We Managed to Get It All Done. It’s Finally Readycynthia-7.png
table b vod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2hxALcLKJM
Holy kino holy soul
>>569459975How I Caught Resident Evil's Biggest Cheater
>>569459824
>turbulent -16.2>norl -62.5Explain this.
>>569460221dsg
>>569459745as long as anons enjoy, at the end of the day
>>569460221terasakibravo-1.png
Mahjong soles...
>>569460221There is another
>>569460221Digikeks...
>>569460221>names
>team is starting to do welltime to bench myself
>ballblasta -146.6
>>569459513why it looks different?
Why are nametards like this?
>>5694607434troonxt?
>>569460186love this game
>>569460841>xtdont have it. I already have way to many extensions that it looks scary
>looking at other players in anon's throne room game
>>569460221variance
>>569461216peak japanese humor
>prison team 1>prison team 2
>>569461289
>TL note: うんち means shit
Why are 2/3rds of the teams below the jongers
>>569459831>average mahjong manga be like
Why are 2/3rds of the teams below the baggers
Our teamchat is basically a group therapy session at this point
>he didn’t draft a team therapist
here is chiitoi cat's mortal rating on the converted log
>/jong/ could realistically win leaguehow do we respond
>>569462048sovl
>>569462063Read RB1
>>569462048holy shit he beat the retardbird by 1.6 rating
>>569462063please god let this happen because it would be so fucking funny
>>569462048our raped saintlestial
>>569461896cheatbuddy cheated againTO should have banned the entire team after the nya2cheat debaclekutsuji-11.png
>>569462015
Total nyagger supremacy. Whale is just a fish to cat. 1000000 year of the cat era.
>>569462063Leave /jong/ to me
>>569462201noticing that he is on a team with at least one confirmed cheater every leaguejabamiyumeko-5.png
hmmm I'll stop queueing now I'm sure nothing bad will happen aru-6.png
mahjong soles
>>569462268who was cheating last year
>>569462293Someone is beating off to this.
The last time I got this unlucky, my grandma died.At this rate someone else in my family is about to die.
>>569462424yeah, me amaekoromo-0.png
>>569462015Hello there. Would you like to go on a hike?
>>569462421someones is beating off to that
>>569462460>rolled a zeroit's actually over
>>569462424You’re in your family
https://mjai.ekyu.moe/isn't taking mjs logs anymore?
>>569462421me
>>569462309kman, mson, luckyl
>>569462578?
>>569462545Hey. I'm at the door. Open up.
>>569462660It keeps saying it failed to load the game logs, but the URLs are correct.
>>569462607they weren't on my team and the baggie was my captain
>>569462724still works for me
>>569462724that bug sometimes happens to me for new games
>>569462847>>569462965Oh yeah, it's just new games having trouble, apparently? Weird.
>>569462293full picture please onegaishimasu
>>569456683where is it!!!
apparently someone uploaded the jp dub to internet archive, hope this works
>>569463161i thought fight club team wanted to stream so I waited, maybe on the weekend after us tables
>>569463468Cantonese dub would be more kino
>>569463521what am i supposed to watch then
>>569463649boku no pico
>>569463649get up to date with the lego thing from all perspectives, all lawtubers are talking about it
>>569463649wait for the fight club strim
>>569463649https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bhnqmH2T4U
>>569463649anon losing in ranked
>>569463649https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HMb1KXPRqA
>>569463921neck yourself worthless tranny
Today is the day.
>>569463649https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsJ94sEHSkU
Do you think it hurts a bit for a saint or celestial to get 4th against unironic retards?
>>569464018it's /mjg/core sir
>>569464220retard here, I always make sure to put an extra bit of hurt to my celestial hunting
>>569464220they would not be high rank if it did
fuck TheCunt got 1st at one of my tables ... TO give me my fucking points back such fucking BULLSHIT
>>569464624this but ironically
Was there an actual cheating accusation of substance or
>>569464220mahjong saints are not smarter people than adepts, you know. if they cared about winrate they'd be playing another game in the first place.
>>569464881No, it's pretty clear that there's an IQ gap between adepts and saints.
>>569465161even if there was all mahjong players are under 100 IQ so doesnt matter much
>>569465361No, riichi mahjong players are on average smarter than the general population too.
>>569464040chapter after this one whenriiiitttttzzzzzz
>>569464816meaningless witchhunt fanned by bored esls, someones looking at 2000+ logs for mortal ratings but meh
>>569464040WE'VE BEEN WAITING FORTODAY IS THE DAY WE OPEN UP THE DOOR
>another kman did nothing wrong episode
>>569464816Apparently, when you win, your rank goes up. And when you win more, you rank up even more. Most anons have never seen such a technique.
>>569465916If kman did something wrong, then Griffith did something wrong, and you aren't ready for that talk.
>>569464816the"evidence" is that his ranked points looped too hard
i'm tired as fucki'm gonna queue rankedspectate me
>>569464816No, just an identity accusation
Just because you are wrong, that doesn't mean you are wrong.
Why does maka hate it when I throw terminals before my honors?Terminals always feel like they come back to screw up my iishanten if they turn into blocks.
imagine hiding your identity, sounds evil to me
>>569450712>league intro singup https://docspace-f8cip5.onlyoffice.com/s/_86LX-JS8QTkH5V
can you stop being a contrarian and just use google docs
me when i see dolphin porn instead of a singup
Don't click, mustard gas
>>569466831dolphins are mammals
>>569464816Count=Kman, nothing definitive on cheating yet
I came https://exhentai.org/g/3849679/1636b0f0f6/
>>569467383>MTL
>>569467383Is this MTL>MTL on the titleI should read that first but the rating and the tags distracted me
>>569467383bravo
>>569467586>>569467739>>569468112I dislike it too, but it's better than nothing
>eops itt
>>569468460You can't stop us because we are already here!
>>569468460would you feel better if they posted untranslated doujins instead
>>569461804Because they play mahjong and you are tourists, probably
i'm gonna go back to watching vtubers and move to /jong/
>>569468843you're already there
>>569468765we don't play mahjong, I think one of them is playing some shitty pokemon romhack rn
You are not good enough to get from Master 1 to Saint 1 in a month and a half, and still able to fall to expert 3 more than once in 2000 games. Even once is difficult to believe. I don't care what kind of excuses you try to make. Real rises and falls have causes, they have periods of fighting back when you realize you are dropping, taking time to review your games instead of grinding all day. Not just a full straight line in both directions.
>>569443006I didn't talk to him through voice chat but yeah, he commentated some games years ago.Anyways, I really doubt that's him. When I had to talk to him multiple times last year during the incident he was a total sperg. Reading this other anon in his team channel, he seems a normal, sane person, so unless he's putting on an act (and I think he's too autistic to pull it off) they are completely different anons.>>569440419I'll keep the temporal suspension for this weekend as a precaution just in case solid proof comes up but those ratings for the big win streak make him way less suspicious, after looking at them I'm starting to think it might just be a funny coincidence, but I'm going to wait and see for now.
>teehee just ranked up from an expertkek to a saint 1 in 200 games>and then immediately looped back to gold>and then did this again oops teehee>and againit happens
In the adept's mind there are infinite possibilities.In the kekspert's mind there are few.
MASSIVE mistake
>>569469403>solid proofRidiculous. This is already enough proof. >>569469390Fact is most of the decisions in a mahjong game don't matter so a person who gets caught (or sees someone who gets caught) can easily pick and choose their moments.To even begin an attempt to digitally analyze logs of a cheater who has any sort of brain you would need the technology to analyze the game and identify important places and only count those, which is already introducing more subjectivity than you have with the simple fact of "It's impossible to loop this hard and this fast."
Running over a jongoid ape and backing up to finish the job.
>>569469403>Reading this other anon in his team channelTO's watching all the teams at all timesHow many times have he looked at the other teams' schedules and told his team who to field in which timeslot to counter them? How many team themes have he stoled? How many OCs have he leaked prematurely?kitamisawako-7.png
Should I try to max out my maka rating to get to saint?
>>569470150it doesn't seem to fucking matter you can loop to saint in a week playing looper m1 mahjong apparently
>>569469403Also if you insist on giving him a chance to explain himself (bad idea with cheaters because it gives them more info on how to evade you next time) then ask for explanations of why he rose or fell at a particular time and what he did to fix it, and do it soon before he can look at his logs and come up with something plausible. Then verify.
Sometimes the game makes you win no matter what you do huh
Just got a sexy junchan in the asura tourney
>>569469403The mortal ratings are actually suspicious because at a glance he was averaging higher when he first got into gold room a year ago than now, and I find it very hard to believe that someone who just played over 2000 hanchans in a year is going to have a decrease in average rating. I think it would be nearly impossible to prove cheating though if he's intelligently making discards that mortal doesn't agree with that are in reality only marginal hits to EV. I suspect the closest you could get to proof would be a really weird looking histogram from the detective that's going to look suspiciously flat or have multiple peaks like the other ones did.
>>569470281Also he needs to give verifiable criteria for whatever his decision making was, not just "I started folding lol"
Now that I think about it, it's obvious we have occultfags in /mjg/, since there occasionally is an exchange between people "in the know" for a few posts, but it never leads to anything. People quoting untranslated books, YouTube videos, "Sakurai says," etc. It never gets anywhere though, anyone not initiated gets quickly shunned by digikek one liners. Are they trying to hide something from us?
>Check maka/mortal after a good match>Score tanked because i kept a safety honor often when i was ahead almost whole matchDon't accuse me of botting please...
>>569470957ARU, NO
>>569470868I know things only SOME people know about. But I can't tell you.
>>569470868Pattern #3 talks about this
>>569470231But I want to STAY in Saint.
>>569470303And sometimes it teases you like no tomorrow to send you to ZETSUBA
>>569470127dance for me, puppets
>>569470303Easy task for a rigging machine
Tsuchida speaks of this.
WWYD with Count's situation?
You guys get all irate over this guy but when mson showed up you were all sunshine and rainbows with only a little consternation. I see how it is.
/bag/ here Who is your sluttiest MJS character?
>>569471394The one no one remembers.
>>569471394
>>569470127TO even goes around talking about me with cute nicknames like retard and appending kek to the end.the old TO was much nicer
>>569470868Sorry, you'll have to pay money if you want to know the things you want to know.
>>569471394Hag.WE HATE THAT HEDGEHOG
Feeling despair... look at this haipai. The nun early riichi'd and the m*le dealt in while I was on a yakuman chance. So depressing.
>>569471339Let him play but let him know his games will be audited
>>569471585Well like that one senba crow says., gg go next
>>569471382The issue is that kman lowered the bar so much by being an irredeemable retarded shitlord, that literally anyone else with even a single shred of a redeemable quality seems appealing.
do you think internet archive will not get pissed if I use them as a direct link for a watchalong
>>569471382all cheaters are faggots and if he cheated, he should be bannedhappy now?
>>569471741aren't they like extremely throttled? more than two people click on it and it's gonna lagdunno, maybe someone paid their bills and it's not like that anymore
>>569471819yeah that's what I was worried about, I did get claude to make me a JS script that replaces the player with a kick embed so I could use kick if they don't ban low view count movie streamers
>>569471339Ban all cheaters. No exceptions.
>>569471691>irredeemableHe was correct about /mjg/ lol you shits are ready to witch hunt anyone with the most dubious "data" presentedFucking vtumor tier thread quality good job fellow sissies!
>>569471919ok niggeraman, whatever you say
>two ousted cheaters from last year came back/are still aroundThe strongest mahjong community in the west has too much pull.
>>569471919counteraman hands typed this
someone post that picture of two balding men sharing gossips to each other
not even our turbo autist neets play 2500 hanchans in a year
>>569472053Because they're busy gossiping and shitposting in the thread
>>569471919And yet that "data" was enough to exile them
ざわ... ざわ.... ざわ... ざわ...
did we even get a full detective breakdown yet, I'll wait to past judgement but people that join league out of nowhere with that many games are always sus
is crowbook on the repo?
>>569471691Personally I believe in second chances, but kman is like on his 3rd, or 4th iteration if this turns out to be the case.
theruxiakiaramancount
>>569472576thelaastruxiakiaracountmansoni*
will this teach me mahjong
>>569472337I think the detective said the akagi model he's using is now out of date since modern models are paid, or something like that.Not that it matters if somebody is only turning on the bot some of the time.You have pretty much every possible circumstance that can point at cheating with this one.>appeared right after the cheating incident>never interacted with /mjg/ utnil the next league>literally 0 friendlies>same character choice>gets from master 1 for the first time to saint 1 in 6 weeks or so>immediately falls back down to ex3>repeat multiple times>only break in play happens in march at the end of his latest downswing>then goes from ex3 to m3 in 2 months>this is all while playing every day, no rust or anything like that>own team member says "he doesn't show his emotions" while commentating (in the japanese stream)
>>569472808>mud-jongSounds like an /out/dora OC idea
Which jrpgs does /mjg/ recommend? Don't give me the most popular ones.
>>569473503Final Fantasy X-2
After 8 years I've gotten 4 nagashi mangans but no kokushi or dai san gen.
>>569473607hey
>>569473503ar tonelico
>>569473546Don't I have to play Final Fantasy X-1 first?
>>569473670what
I dread the next league session. My team is guaranteed to job, I just know it.
>>569473708Technically you only need to play FFVI to understand the reference in Act 2 but you can play X-1 too if you're very eager.
>>569473904Have you considered it's your fault?
>>569473796sanma
he seems clean ... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18BLHHcu11VtNWFVv1EeUsZmURB3hUdy7h7VY8hJzAho/edit?usp=sharinghttps://litter.catbox.moe/m75mob.zip
sand ma balls
>>569473503Energy Breaker
>>569473503God Eater
will you apologize for >names ing an innocent
>>569474102No
>>569474113he?
>already owned the book in Japanese>doesn't seem to be on the repoguess I have to be the paypiggy to upload it
>>569474113>marginally plays worse when climbingyeah just a lucklet
>>569474113detectivekeks are we retarded?
>>569466491
>>569473503By JRPG do you mean 4 niggas in a row or can it be anything Japanese?
>>569474113So what? That's not the model he's using, nor is it relevant to what a cheater in 2026 would do.Get some actual data on things like folding decisions, distribution of mistakes vs. a clean player, etc. or this is useless.
>>569472852>>569474113>>569474705I took a quick look at his last two latest league games (he scored 80 and 87 in mortal) and he was making decisions like these, which don't seem very botlikeImagine singing up for league for the first time and then being witchhunted out of nowhere because the general has become a low-trust den of drama-loving schizos
>>569474608JRPG means RPG made in JapanThe whole "4 niggas in a row" shit was invented by Western devs with Wizardry and Might&Magic japs just followed the trend and became autistic about it
>>569473503Luminous Arc
>>569474729and yet you post >names you shitposting faggot
>>569473503Baten Kaitos
>>569473503Treasure of the Rudra
>>569474797Welp, I didn't notice I forgot to turn off the >names when merging the second screenshot
>>569474729Surely there is not a person on this planet who believes it's his first league, even if they're getting tricked into thinking he's not a cheater?You start playing mahjong immediately after the cheating drama, reach m1 in a few days, play every single day from then on at a >"saint" level, never play a single friendly, and then join the next league. Your own teammate comments on you not emoting during games. This person doesn't exist.At best it is a new account of someone who played the game previously. Why would someone make a new account and then play every day, I wonder?
>>569473503Terranigma, Lufia 1 and 2, any Mana game.
>>569474984I also watched him not emote back to an anon in the tourney
>>569474729>>569474894Now without >names hopefully
>>569474490I have this book but I always forget to remind myself to upload it to the repo
imagine if you just discussed mahjong strategy with people and could tell their skill level from their reasoningwild, I know
>>569474984>Why would someone make a new account and then play every day, I wonder?To play mahjong, i know its a novel concept here
>>569466491HELLO SARR I AM FROM MICROSOFT PLEASE DOING THE NEEDFUL AND CLICKING THE LINKS SARRRRR
anons recommending literal uncslop
so what if you don't want to spam emotes 24/7i don't do it either
>>569474984>At best it is a new account of someone who played the game previously.Okay and? There are people out there wasting their time on RC until one day they get enough and switch to MJS. It means nothing.>Why would someone make a new account and then play every day, I wonder?Because maybe they used to play mainly on different clients until now? What kind of schizo reasoning is this? /mjg/ league isn't even well-known in western mahjong circles.
i love aussie commentators and their handsome accents!!
I wanted to emote more but I was getting baked alive and my A/C broke
>>569473503Shadow Hearts
>>569475113A new player does not get to saint in 2 months.Ask him to tell the TO what his main is and play a game on that account. There is enough reason for that.
sasuga last league
>>569475118I find that if you want JRPGs today, there can be pretty slim pickings, as they aren't as ubiquitous as they used to be.
>>569475231they dont like you tho
>>569475231you're not tricking me into streaming
>>569475348That's because you aren't real, you're probably from NZ which also isn't real and you can't prove otherwise.
>>569475348cmon man im tired of hearing esls commentate (no offense)
mahjong tanoshii
They call me the Weekend Warrior.
>>569475520God will not forgive your lies
>>569475819Today is Friday in California.
>>569473503Breath of Fire 3 and Terranigma are peak uncslop, Radiant Historia is kono, Digital Devil Saga and Devil Survivor 1 are ludo, and Metaphor is one of the best games of the most recent generation. For me though? Tales of the Abyss, or settle for Vesperia.
>>569475215>wasting their time on RC until one day they get enough and switch to MJS
strewth aye fukkin trackydacks gunna hit the servo for sum ciggies
>>569475843God has forsaken me, forgiveness matters not.
>>569474113I think this just proves that the cheaters have outsmarted the detectives. They have no idea how to analyze suspicious streaks so you can just fool them by turning off the bot every 1 in 4 hanchans. That would be more than enough to climb without causing a blip on this generalized batch analysis.That combined with all the other techniques of artificially lowering score and you'll never catch anyone again. You don't know what model they're using either so all this flat distribution actually shows is that you're using the wrong one. Once you're playing at a certain level all bots generally agree just with slightly different weightings, and most decisions in mahjong are obvious so any good model will score at least 90 baseline.
>God has forsaken me, forgiveness matters not.
>>569475215The guy is trying to argue some guy who got to saint in 2 months immediately after cheaters were banned is a fresh teary-eyed new player getting unjustly persecuted for participating in his first league.You need to at bare minimum know for sure what his previous account was and compare the gameplay between them.
>>569476067>iphone filenameGo back
>>569474113now do BigCoach
>>569476117its a good phone, sir
This time, you've gotten me caught in the middle,And everything seems to be right.Maybe if I take a step, moving forward,I won't ever need to turn back.
>>569476032>Once you're playing at a certain level all bots generally agreeAbsolutely not, that's the problem.If you were there when naga was free they disagree often.
we just persecuted an innocent looper for nothing
>some guy bots in an obvious way for the pure purpose of pissing off detectives who can't prove he did itI changed my mind, he's based.
Loopers belong in camps
death to loopers
The moriarty to Jane
>>569476104>fresh teary-eyed new playerNigger there are mahjong players out there with 10+ years experience who make new accounts after playing IRL-only for years nobody says he started to play mahjong a year ago
>>569474729he knew beforehand that he would be investigated and therefore purposefully made bad plays as baitit's irrefutable
Yup, this is a better use of my time than ranked.
>>569474490I did a PDF conversion a while back thinking I'd eventually upload it and I never did. I hope Senba-sensei gets a decent cut from the sales all things considered.himekawahibiki-12.png
Will we ever have a league free of cheating drama again?
>>569476240>>569476258join Looplets
>>569476312this but unironically
>>569476349>againAru-chama…
the only models available for download are the old ones … how can I keep up with the botters paying for online tools locked behind a server connection …
>>569476310Now he's an imaginary person who never touched online mahjong for years, made an account after cheating drama happened and started playing every day? If that's his story let's hear it from him. Make sure you have a scoring test for him when you do it.
He’s a cheater I don’t give a fuck about the bot scores since he must be using a different bot
>>569476310To be fair the average "10+ years of experience IRL-only" player will barely break into looperkek territory unless they live in Japan. You would know this if you attend a club and play against RLOCs (real life only cowards).
>>569476324I already bought four of the crowbooks in Japanese, I didn't want to buy more!!
>>569476439Mahjong?
>>569476349The schizos got too addicted to the drama for this to ever end now. We now have potentially two unsubstantiated bot accusations this league with this guy and L*****As funny as the LuckyL nickname is, his bot scores seem perfectly normal too. People simply can't believe that funny coincidences and variance can happen in a game full of funny coincidences and variance. TheC**** looks clean from the regular detective's histograms since his bot scores are consistent throughout all the looping.
this drama is gay as fuck i'm going back to /jong/
>>569476475The point is that nobody thinks it's a "fresh teary-eyed new player" like you claimed and there are half a dozen different reasons for someone to rise fast on a smurf account
>>569476623Variance does not produce straight lines.
>>569476691Wrong interpretation
>>569476679I replied to someone saying it was his first league when no one would ever believe that.Smurfs happen, yes. This one needs his past account investigated. Are you afraid of that happening?
>>569476762I am deadly afraid you may never do anything other than whine.
>>569476762What if his past account is on Tenhou or RC? What then, smartass?
>>569474705
>>569476313Ichihime, NO!
>>569476910this is why tenhou deleting inactive accounts is retarded btw
What’s stopping an anon from training his own bot? All the Houou logs are freely available, and if they are only checking logs, all you’d need to do to not get flagged is fine-tune your model on a biased subset of data (like basing its playstyle on a particular player/account) or inject hardcoded heuristics, so your bot develops a consistent stylistic deviation from Mortal
>>569476691He scored an average of 91 on Akagibot on both deranking trips down to kekspert which is about the same as his upranking trips to S1.So his regular play is a 91 when he's deranking, but his bot-assisted play also scores around the same due to advanced bot evasion tactics? But it's still better somehow?
>>569477034These are the mental gymnastics being done to avoid the obvious conclusion
>>569477024it didn't stop me, anons just never caught on
>>569476313sad that Ponsuke draws NTR and hags now
>>569477024It's barely documented, a pain in the ass to set up, and takes forever to train anyways.I mean you could do it I guess. Release the ASAPIN weights.
>>569476313fake hypnosis is as bad as nbr incest
>>569476219The disagree about certain situations anon, but they largely agree on the majority of obvious decisions which is what I said.
>>569477151No it isn't, it makes her greed even better.
What’s with the assumption that bots don’t also derank? Doesn’t variance also happen to bots too? They aren’t gods.
I think he's guilty because literally all of you fuckers could cheat if you could get away with it, and we only caught the guys we did because they were being blatant about it.
K-man has absolutely mentally raped this generalHis legacy will go on until its endHe has single-handedly contributed more to it's culture than any of you
>>569476910What do you mean? You do the same thing you'd do with a MJS account. Ask him to play a game with you to confirm it's him, then investigate logs from that player and compare them to his current account.
why are hag gods so lucky every time i see this hag in my room i just know i'm going to get raped
>>569477229I know this is a chinky oriental board game general but I wouldn't cheat because I'm white.a37-8.png
>>569477229Just because you'd do it doesn't mean everyone else would.
you retards really should stop playing these girlish games or go back to whatever gossipy shithole you came from
>>569477258>to it's cultureIt's telling that he is only brought up during league and never outside of it
>>569477302I've played in autotable. Yes they would.
Given the facts, what would you do if in your next league match you were queued against TheCount?
>>569477229>I think he's guilty because literally all of you fuckers could cheat if you could get away with itStop projecting
>>569477329I wouldn't do anything because I don't know who I'm queueing against to begin with.
>>569477229Are you chinese, perchance?
>>569477329i'd listen. and thats what no one did
>>569477329tameron, ask TO to pause every 5 minutes for 5 minutes, try to collude with the other teams in IRC
>>569477329i'd win
>>569477107What's with hime's and cheating?
>>569477329I would do the same I always do: Win
>>569477034Yeah, it's not like this is private information. You can see what kind of scores you're getting and adjust.Looping one or two ranks is not the same as looping from Saint to Expert. That does not happen to real people, especially not more than once, and if it did it would be due to playing worse. The fact this worse play (caused for no reason during a continuous string of thousands of games with no breaks) is not reflected by a change of bot scores is suspicious, if anything.
>>569477439Hime is the superior client with a working anti-cheat so they migrate to unprotected Mahjong Soul instead.
>>569477370Damn near half of the general is
>>569477329nah i'd win
>>569477329Bots can do jackshit against variants in 2 games so who cares
>>569477262See the problem here is the burden of proof lies on you. Even if he did have another account he's under no obligation to share it to prove his innocence, and not sharing it is not an admission of guilt.You would know this if you lived in a first world country.
I would only cheat through occult means, such as astrally projecting to see my opponent's hand.
>it’s suspicious if his bot scores change during periods of ranking up>actually it’s suspicious if his bot scores stay exactly the same during periods of ranking upbravo
>mfw stirring a cauldron of goat hooves and chicken feathers for my next game
Sacrificing a virgin(myself) to improve flow
If you want to bring real world legal precedent in it then let's put him in front of a /mjg/ jury instead of the TO and see how well he fares. What do you think will happen?Smurfs are already a questionable existence in league because of the potentially for being on multiple teams/throwing. This is a cheating investigation. You don't need proof that there are illegal drugs in the private property to check the private property, just reasonable cause.
I DON'T WANT APOLOGIESI WAS PROMISED FOR A HEAD TO ROLLKILL THE NIGGER EVEN IF HE'S INNOCENT OR HANG THE DETECTIVE, I DON'T CARE I JUST WANT BLOODSHED
We need TO to ban curses before next league...
>>569477853replying to >>569477595I did not mean to do that, believe it or not
Make him play a game and commentate his thought process. He's going to either say things that make it clear he understands the game well enough to make it to saint or something blatantly retarded like kman and the efficiency trainer.
KILL A RANDOM ANON NOW!!!
>>569478004"The mahjong speaks for itself"
>>569477853https://youtu.be/uRaes3eaeD4?t=27
>>569478004>forcing anon to buy a microphone and attentionwhore himselfA new low
HANG THAT NIGGER NOW!I GOT THE ROPE RIGHT HERE!
>>569477853I actually support a jury. And I don't know how they would rule because there is literally no solid proof.And the problem here is that you're searching for drugs in a private property that doesn't exist. Specifically, you have no way of knowing if it exists and no justifiable way of forcing the information out - if there even is any to begin with.
>>569478098Don't worry anon, I'm sure everyone will believe that you don't have a mic or a phone in 2026.
>>569477258It was actually M-son that started this whole witch hunting schizo drama but go off anyway queen
This is what happens when there's no clown fiesta in the US tables.
>>569478201If he decides not to share his past account it's not like you can do anything about that, but it would be another point of information.
>>569478272Take your meds
Nobody has noticed that M-tournament is on
TO please I was promised a blood sacrifice, you've already summoned the demons, you can't just let them get away with it.Either feed us the cheater or the detective. We crave the downholding of reputations...
I'll say it again but /mjg/ was a better place when we lacked in burger population and US hours were dead hours
>>569478408Its authentic SEA schizo hours
>>569478446whatever you say Brasilbro
>>569478301If he has one and doesn't share, or if he doesn't have one, either way it cannot be used to prove guilt or innocence. People can make assumptions but resting them on this point is baseless.
this is china/SEA/AUS hours, the craziest and most schizophrenic countries on earth
>>569478367I did because Jinny is watching it
Sometimes I forget we have a local janny
Euros really see American NEETs and nightcreepers and think that they made those amazing posts.
Chinks? Brazilians? Burgers? Silly anons, EuroNEETs never sleep
I think we should round up and execute every NEET just to be safe
>>569478840
>>569478840shut up mom i'm NEVER getting a j-j-j-j*b ever again!!!
>>569478840Based
>>569478840That would kill half the general though
>>569477725I have been consistent in stating that it would be easy to manipulate your bot score by only using it for important things, and so instead of overall score, you would need to have a method of identifying important decisions, or else be able to detect unusual distribution of mistakes (turning the bot on/off)Since you are human your bot score itself should have variance, so that staying consistent is strange, especially if you have a split personality between saint mahjong and expert 3 mahjong. Variance is not this powerful and would include local peaks instead of making a triangle wave.
>>569471919Why are you still squealing around here you slavshit subhumanJust die already worthless nigger
>>569478840I didn't want to be a NEET but my business went under
I searched through all of my 'himes and I couldn't find the one where she is wearing a McDonald's uniform.
>>569479164huge part of the skill in mahjong is in identifying these "important decisions", so I'm not buying that entirely
>>569479283
>>569474154This one has been on my list forever for the ost alone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvtwyum0HuM>>569473503live a live on super famicom peak ost and soul. Metal Max Returns and Metal Max 2 Reloaded were good if you want lesser known more open world jrpgs. Romancing Saga 2-3 and Minstrel Song are kinda in the same vein. Bahamut Lagoon for some NTR kino.
>>569479164I will put it like this: 70% of discards are non-decisions - there is an obvious solution. that means the remaining 30% is all important.Yes variance can explain the difference between saint mahjong and expert 3 mahjong. It doesn't take much of a bad streak while playing on tilt to get fucked hard - your rating doesnt even need to tank when this happens.Across hundreds of anons playing tens of thousands of games, a streak like this is not an anomaly at all.
>>569478840I'd literally deflect all your hits and kill you in oneshot.
>>569479558>it happened>actually, it was statistically possible that this happened.>therefore nothing to see here. variance.retard
>no AUS or EU1 gamesMaybe I should go to bed, the sun is coming up.
>>569479558>es variance can explain the difference between saint mahjong and expert 3 mahjong. It absolutely doesn't. I can't imagine anyone who has been to saint would disagree with that.However much the game treats you poorly, the point spread in M1 or even M2 is too friendly to fall further 3 times in one year. Falling down to Expert 3 a single time over that time span would be in the realm of anomaly. "It could happen one in a million" type of thing.This didn't happen just one time. Straight course to saint, then back down. Never any intermediate loops.
what's the mumble? asking for a friend
I thought the next match was righht now AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>just enough to not lose pointsthat's enough mahjong for today
No wonder TO is retiring, imagine dealing with this shit every year.
>>569480190Hannah!
I will TO next year so I can ban the people I don't like arbitrarily
>>569480476based, league could use a few less undesirables
Do we have any saint who has fallen to Expert one time?
>>569480476ban all hagfags please
>>569478408did you know burgers make up more that 30 % of all twitch viewership even during non US sessions? I just thought it was interesting. The sheer amount of retarded americans that entered mjg 2024 onwards is insane
>>569480702proof?
>>569480678shut up
>>569478408burgers single handedly increased the skill level of this place. they are the reason we are the strongest community in the west
>>569480791lollmao
>>569480671
>>569480671to adeptbut he did it on purpose
>>569479464Honestly while Energy Breaker is pretty neat, the OST is mostly its strong point. It's a very strange game in a lot of ways, and feels like it was rushed to completion, but it can still be an enjoyable experience if you like SPRGs.
>>569474490it's now been added to the repo, thanks anonomigoto nanoja
>try to clear my throat>accidentally swallowed a huge booger
>>569481698Xapitan...
>>569481698plaptaint....
>>569481664>>569474490I KNEEL
If we are all friends here, why we can't do more activities together other than mahjong?
>>569482018Because:1. We do2. /doko/ exists3. /jong/ exists4. IRC exists5. Discord exists6. All the other /mjg/ colonies that exist for the sake of anons doing something alternative without shitting up our main general constantly
>>569482018Like what?
>>569482129/mjg/ hate all those
OJ doko
>>569482220Kidnapping children to rape, kill, dismember and eat, and also selling them into prostitution and blackmailing VIPs for easy money.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS A TSUMO HANEMAN ON MY DEALER TURN
>>569482330Hinamomer wouldn't say that.
>>569482330Whoa whoa whoa, eating? I'm watching my weight.
>>569482330Momo would say this.
>>569482265host it
>>569482403It's fine, we can sell the organs for a profit.
>>569482018That's what mjg meetups are for
If anyone wants to go hiking in the woods with me, I'm available anytime.
>>569482752
why did conor murder jane
>>569482018Blood Bowl tourney fantasy team is in third
>>569481664>amahara KOKOhana
I feel like 2 hanchans in a row are too much for my focus.Am I the only one?
>>569483024you can take a 5min break between
Is the Senba KADOKAWA book also in the repo?
>>569480956>>569480984Did not even reach saint kek
>omigoto is a real word and wasn't oh my god nipponified
>>569483237his alt was a saint
>>569479920>>569479858did you know variance is pretty big in mahjong?https://killerducky.github.io/mahjong/random_walk.html
>>569483237now check his alt that did reach saint
>>569483267>he doesn't know where "bravo" comes from
>>569483267nanoja is a real word too
>>569483273>>569483310He must have cheated on his alt.
>>569483327not from that
>>569483327I invented it.
How can I trust /mjg/ now, there are so many criminals here...
>>569483267And tycoon is an anglicized version of 大君 or taikun which means liege/shogun
Sex with Bravo
>>569483294kill yourself fartbuddy, i can see the the placing odds you put in disingenuous faggot.
awkward
his silence is deafening
>>569483294Variance is really not that big, but you're starting to seem like a botter now that you're posting charts like this. What are you trying to prove with this exactly? You think the same person who has a 27% 4th rate in gold is going to rank up to Master and suddenly have a 22% 4th rate in jade, and vice versa? Even then with this deliberately misleading spread I wonder how many years you would have to run it to find a graph that goes from saint to ex3 3 times.Real people improve, or get stuck in a rut. Real people have hot and cold streaks for reasons other than luck. You're watching a stream instead of looking at discards, you grind too much and stop paying proper attention, etc. (This would also be reflected not only in the stats that you're assuming are due to variance, but also reflected in your bot score.)
https://x.com/kiou_jp/status/2062799081223893488
>>569483024even one is too much sometimes when you get one of those cancer ones where some luckshitting faggot keeps getting dealer repeats and your hands keep getting cucked and you just want to get out
why isnt the second option enabled at the start of every round ?
>>569485163because you obviously want to skip some wins? are you an adept?
>>569484873
>>569485276What if someone misses chiihou because it's not enabled at the start?
>>569485276Ron skips are an exception rather than a ruleTenhou has an autowin on by default option (but also disables autowin if you're DC'd for some ass backwards reason)
>>569485452how, he gets spasms and clicks "skip"?>>569485461oh yeah, whenever my flow tells me a situation is coming up where i have to skip ron i'll just start reconfiguring my game interface instead of just having it off by default and turning it on whenever i know it's not gonna come up
>>569485659Some people play on autopilot and discard instantly
>>569485461>Tenhou has an autowin on by default optionhuh? I always have to turn it on myself every game
>>569485701>discarding without even looking at the tsumohaii think these people have more serious problems than getting chiihou
>>569485701Those aren't people
>>569471493retardkek...
>>569485659My mistake, I thought you were arguing in good faith
didn't read lol
>>569485910what are you talking about?i'll break it down for you:in scenario A, whenever you are in a situation where you can win, you get to decide whether to win or notthis way you always have to make a choice, so whenever a situation like that comes up, you don't have to do anything, you just do what you usually do: either press win or skipin scenario B, you win automaticallythis way whenever a situation comes up where you wouldn't want to win for any reason, you have to open a menu, select the appropriate action and do it within the unknown time limit of the game turn looping back to you (there are situations where you may realize it during your opponents' turns), in that case there's room for making mistakes, because you're under time pressure and the result could be an unwanted wini'd rather be in scenario A and B
>>569486223>A and B*A than B
>>569484873NINPO
>tedashi 4man has dealt in more times than any other tedashi discard in the tourney so far...fascinatingi just need to figure out how to parse tsumogiri
>>569483867the placing odds are literally the anons stats from amae.>>569484656where do you see the 27% 4th rate in gold? i'm very clearly seeing 18.67% 4th rate.
>>569487732>obviously not clicking Gold Elol
>>569476439
>kiaraMAN>mendleSON>UNCLEmoton>theCOUNTuhhhhh
>>569487882Uncle was botting?!
>>569487732The part where you wrote 0.2741
>>569487831you're clearly a shit stirrer who hasn't checked anything yourself.
>>569476439Joko? Even Jane can't find the joke here.
>>569488010you are clearly retarded
>>569487882why are men like this?
>>569487882>MRpotato
>you can do ryuuiisou in ronchiitoi shapebased yostar
>>569488132so true sisters...so truelehayashakaemote.png
>>569488006he is the only confirmed botter on /mjg/, he just did it for farming rolls instead of ranking up (or maybe he bought a botted account)
>>569487882>lAASTII'm convinced. She is innocent.
>>569488187But those are blue?aru-3.png
>the witchhunter is a jeetOf course, it's always who you most suspect
she would never
>>5694885365s
>>569487882>iDRinkvodka
so in conclusion>TheCount is Kman's alt>He might not have mortalbotted on this one>He should still kill himself for being a cheating faggot
>>5694885369m betaori
>>569488434traditionally, nips didn't distinguish between blue and greenbut ryuuiisou uses kanji 緑 which exclusively means greenalso, the wait thing is bugged, all these waits would give you a ryuuiisou, but it says 6 han (for regular) or 8 han (for ronchiitoi), so aru is right at least before winning
>whiskySIR
Hard to believe this thread used to be good.
>>569487882>SjaalMAN
>>569488926there is no way 5s deals into anything but a tanky, even 46 is out of the question since who drops 7s when you have 467s?
Another successful multiculturalism experiment
>>569489005no..
now i understand how Socrates died
>>569488915yeah about right. obviously after 4k hanchans you'll eventually get to saint 1 once or twice but loop back if you're badthe timing and playstyle makes it too obvious to me
>>569485163>>569485659i have this setting on, it just makes sense. theres like 1% of games where you'd ever have a reason to skip win and the other 99% of the time you'd take it
>>569489037shut the fuck up beggy shitcive
>>569489078if anything, the defaults for every round should be configurable, because i wouldn't want to have it on
>>569488457their only goal in life is to find someone lower caste than themselves to bully
>>569489074Forced to kill himself after diddling too many kidsTruly the Epstein of his era
>>569489173it is configurable in rc
>>569488661>>569488926>>569488939
>>569489326we already know RC is the better client with more features, still not going to start using it, shill
>>569489339why 9m into ippatsu?
>>569489339any explainers? 9m is literally more dangerous than 5s here, tanyao brainrot?
>>569488926>>569489339My question is how is that betaori? It's unsafe and you have genbutsu
>>569488927>>569488187ronchiitoi chinroutou also works, but this time it calculates the han value properly on waits, keki wonder what's the difference
okay /mjg/.I want you to guess.what is the tile that dealt in the MOST throughout league 7 so far?(i just ran a quick query to see if my database is working and i thought id share the result)
>>5694900678s
>>5694900673s
>>569490067pei
>>5694900672 pin, or 4 man
Jyanshi for this feel?
>>5694900679s
>>5694900677s
>>5694900671m
>>569490123Joseph
>>569488008anon it goes the other order in this tool.4th 3rd 2nd 1st.27.41% is his 1st rate. you could have figured this out from >>569487732
no winners it seems. 6 Sou is the most dangerous tile in the tourney so far, followed by a 3-way draw.>>569490097close second in the "worst honor tile to think is genbutsu" race, but Haku takes it.
>>5694900676s
>>5694900678p
>>569490463i would never drop 6s
>>569478840better than killing myself
I just played a tourney game and I LOST!
>>569490463Now run the best tsumo tile
>>569490623
>>569490657already did.
>>569490882>sou is the tsumo suitunderstood
>>569490882Good. Now I have all the data I need for my playstyle to evolve even further.
>>569490623Yosh, yosh, Sinon-san...
>>569490332Regardless, this is a massive cope tool that assumes your winrate stays the exact same for 2000 games. In other words, it's misleading
>>569490623You need to check sex
>>569490067haku
>>569490882>TheCount won this muchI can see why everyone thinks he's cheating now winning on all these tiles this much
>>569490657>best tsumo tileit doesnt actually measure which tile is most likely to be drawn but which tiles people are most likely to wait for
>>569491484explain ron tiles then
>>569491589same thing
https://x.com/asakurapinpin/status/2062749895170392479
>>569491906I weigh more than Asapin…
>>569491634why is it different?
>>569491484Yeah, and?
>>569477129>>569491906
>>569492008>>569491997so you should pick the things not on the list, its what no one expects and you'll win by surprise
NIGERO GOBUU!
is anyone trying to mod MJS for the unity client?
>>569492089Yeah, right, I ain't buying that, Mr. Reverse Psychology
Claude is training the LoRA for my private bot as we speak
>>569492348I also got into vibecoding recently and it's really fun!
>>569492167someone's been posting about it, not sure how much progress they've made (if any)
>>569492472>ask LLM to do stuff>it does stuffIt's fucking magic. I understand why the south didn't want to give up slaves now.
>>569492472
>>569489339What do they actually say about their decisions though?
Top 80% means I'm in the 20% best right?
>>569493219
>>569493219yes
>Team full of league tourist and foc deep negative Love to see it
>>569493552Show me one team without tourists
>>569491278it might go up or down in a smaller period of time and thats normal but the fact that we can loop expert and saint with consistent play with his stats shows that we can loop much faster with inconsistent play.it's just a graph to show that this happening is entirely within the variance range given his impressive game count. looping twice in 2600+ games is more than possible.the pic related histogram showing his level of play remaining consistent and no obvious groupings is strong evidence too, if he were cheating its definitely not blatant. the groupings are very open with a wide variance of play day to day. i would expect tight groupings for a cheater dataset - games he cheated, games he didn't cheat/partially cheated in.to the people saying he's cheating in "important moments"- please notice that his average score is consistent - even going down recently. if all his decisions were the same quality, and he would decide to cheat in the important moments to make the best move - there should be a visible uptick in his match rate. we see the opposite in his recent climb.for more conclusive data, i'd like to see akagi's rating rather than match rate, the anon in sheet mentioning probability of using a different bot is not a theory you can throw out entirely. i personally find it unlikely, but covering this should solve it once and for all.in conclusion, unless there is more evidence, i find it unlikely that he is guilty jane-7.png
Come to think of it, shouldn'tt /mjg/ be on /vm/ instead of /vg/ because it's multiplayer lobby-based game?
>>569493929no because this is a mahjong thread, not a mahjong soul thread.
>>569493994What's stopping you from making a mahjong thread in /vm/ then?
>>569493994What's your stance on RC?
>>569493929No.
>got curious>check /vm/>/doko/I see what you're trying to do
>>569493994So true sister. All mahjong games are accepted here.
Riichi City rights are mahjong rights
>>569493994mahjong soul rights are trans rights chud
>>569494264>>569494127irl (autotable) > tenhou > mahjong soul > autotable > sega mahjong > ron2 > single player mahjong h-games > other single player mahjong games > other clients > riichi city
>>569494443So true sister! Time to jump!
>>569493016Terminals are genbutsu
>>569493869>Play exactly the same>Swing between saint and fucking kekspertThis is blackpilling if true
>>569494472t. never played on riichiadvancedTourists get the rope
>>569493869your base assumption is wrong. you cannot extrapolate from a random walk with fixed probabilities onto something with variable probabilities.start off your argument without a statistical fallacy and maybe i'll read the rest.
>>569492851Why do you say LLM and not AI?
>>569493929shouldnt like 80% of the threads on this board which are all dogshit gacha trash mobage be on/vmg/? yet here we are
>>569494472>mjs>segamjif only in popularity, which means nothing
>>569493219They fix the english client? I'm still in chinese
>>569494472the progression path of the average mahjong player
>>569494914yes
>>569494914no
>>569494801LLMs aren't intelligence
>>569494914Perchance.
>>569494801because "AI" is a marketing term used to brainwash normalfags into thinking we actually developed an artificial human consciousness just like in the moooovies
>>569495161You can't just say perchance!
>>569494914
BRAVO EUROKEKS!
>>569494589It's not only a retard would believe that. Sure you can wobble up and down a few tiers but if you're playing consistently you will never drop that much.This all smells like looper cope.
>>569496084>anon discovers variance
>>569494895>pay to play hanchansega mj fucking sucks
>>569496084>lucky/unlucky streaks exist chudster>if you play the same you will climb no matter what, look at my bot stats tehe>dysphoria is strong here, maybe /mjg/ better move to /lgbt/, we already got furries, slavs and gachatrannies and last but but not the least, vtumor cucks
ABP - autobotophilia
>>569496383And worst of all, we have you.
>>569496328>>569496383Typical loopers blaming their pea-brained decisions on variance and being unlucky.
>>569496371you can kill yourself, like right now mjs shill
>UUUUOOOOH MOMOCHAN I LOVE YOU ITS UNYUUU TI-*BANG*
Derank from s1 to e3 isn't being unlucky. I did it on purpose in the past and it took me 3 daysI don't know why he did it tho
>>569496691my wife
>>569496461Autobots, roll out!
>>569496560You do understand that playing consistently does not mean playing consistently well, right?
>>569496743You do understand the difference between playing consistently, consistently well, and consistently bad right?Here, let me draw it out for your caveman intelligence./-\
>>569496502With me gone, /mjg/ soul dies
>>569494127>What's your stance on RC?Well, whenever it comes up, I basically only recommend RC for straight guys and MJS for lgbtqia+ and normies because these kinds tend to want to play together.
>>569496881look pal your claim was "if you're playing consistently you will never drop that much" just take the L and move on
>>569496881goodnow that you understand that, then factor in variance of mahjongutilize this to visualize its effect https://killerducky.com/mahjong/random_walk
league season really takes a toll on the thread
>>569497030how about you put down your Ls if you're always trying to pass them around to otherscouldn't be me
>>569496972Sold. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
quickly post cynthia, sadpanda or queer emote edit!
>>569491906I am 5 kilos lighter
>>569497148We should have had Path of Trial season instead
>>569496687b-but no one plays free mode...hanchan especially
>>569497020Frank is literally a crossdressimg faggot
>>569497148starting next year I'll follow the famous Hisa's example and take a vacation during league
>>569497136stop embarrassing yourself trying to shill that cope site lmfaodid you AI code it or something?
>>569497269ssssh its one of many lil RCtroon copes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7yXXcADvqY
>>569497258took 2 seconds to find a gamelmao
>>569497354ah, you were just baiting. figures
>>569497269I can smell the cortisol spike through the screen
>>569497374>prime JP hours
>>569496691My daugher, wife, little sister and concubine!!!!
>>569497435>this much of copetake an L already and go skibi rizz with your cord friends
>>569497416learn statistics and maybe you won't make a fool of yourself next time.
>>569496687that's not ranked you faggot, you play against anyone in free play
>it's literally impossible to derank from saint to expert>this is /mjg/'s official stance
>>569497269He can crossdress all he wants and conversely, Catfood could hypothetically be made up of the straightest people in the Universe, yet these two things would still have nothing to do with what's actually in both clients and who they're better to recommend to.
>>569495163https://www.youtube.com/shorts/49hwy-8Ywr8
>>569497538You should care less about what /mjg/ thinks and care more about what I think.
>>569496371>>569497529>this retardedspecify it then ranked cuck or your are too poor to buy some coins?
>>569497538I don't think some baiting retard is official anything.
>>569497712holy copeimagine paying to play ranked
>>569497257retards would riot
>>569497771>poorfag copeconcession accepted :^)
you don't actually need to buy chips in sega mj to play ranked or event, just win them at the casino
>>569497862>>569497712you really quickly went from "it's free" to "you're just poor"no idea what you get out of shilling it here though
>>569497538>it's literally impossible for a chess GM to lose to a 900elo player>/mjg/ really believes thisAlso yeah i did really unlucky and deranked 6 times in a row, so what? The game is rigged against me
>>569497538ive never been a saint, someone put this in terms more easy for a dullard like me to understand
>>569497969buddy you said it's paid and you're presented with a free optionwho fucking cares about ranked
>>569471394the young ones
>>569498057can someone translate this?
>>569493820am I a tourist if I am on here all year, but don't play ranked or friendlies?
>>569498058you can get to saint with a lucky streak and then derank with an unlucky streak
>>569498057>a chess GM to lose to a 900elo playerNot the same at all. Chess is a memory game. Mahjong is a deckbuilder with roguelite elements.
>>569498195that doesnt help, i meant give me some kind of analogy to represent the gap between saint and kekspert
>>569497269crossdressing is the straightest thing you can do
>>569498057If chess had a mechanic where you roll a dice to see if a random pawn promotes to a queen without going to the end of the board I could believe it
>>569493820/out/dorascunny team
>>569498057You can't compare this game to chess. There is 0 luck element in chess and a 900 elo player would never be able to beat a GM, all other things being equal.
>>569498058You can reach ascendant elo and derank down to initiate by sheer luck alone.
>>569497969lil rctroon larping as a segamj player just to try to get a chance to dunk on mjs
>>569498283the gap can be as small as luck as I just explained given enough games
>>569498312out of the gayest things? yeah, you're actually right
>>569498283>adeptinfant>experttoddler>masterpreschooler>saintmiddle schooler>celestialadult
>>569498223>>569498347>>569498347>>569498381All these retards when a sub 80 IQ nigger could beat his opponents and get to 2000+ ELO by sheer chance lol
>>569497969>>569496371>"pay to play", can easily played without spending a single cent>presented a free option>NOOO I WANTED RANKED>didn't specify it earlier>i owned a shill by being a retarded troglodyte hehnuke 3rd world and mjs shills, retarded beyond reason
>>569498519could a toddler beat a middle schooler at something if he got lucky? i doubt ithes a cheater confirmed
>>569498452it's always funny how there's supposedly a lot of "them" out there, but you never see wwyds or even screenshots from segamj, maybe they're just shy
>>569498283don't listen to this gaslighting looper, he's just trying to bring you down to his level. he is literally someone who dropped out of college and went back to preschool due to "variance">>569498481
>>569498587I have some ideas
>>569498668>>569498481i simply dont believe you that by pure luck someone could loop between saint and expert
>>569498652>post wwyd>get meme repliesjee i wonder why no one posts wwyd anymore
>>569498519I'm still young!
>>569471394womanof the cloth
>>569498862>>569498862>>569498862
>>569493869You're deluded, man.Because it's theoretically possible to loop from saint to expert once (has never been seen to actually happen to a real person) that means it can realistically happen 3 times to the same person in the same span of time? To a guy who appeared right when the cheaters were banned, never interacted with us but joined league anyway? And has the exact same stats as one of the known cheaters?It's the job of science to explain reality, not the other way around. The only thing this proves is that you shouldn't have told him why you caught him the first time, and just banned him, like you should be doing now.It's just like when he got caught in the bot discord and people were like "that's not proof! He might just be there for fun!" or "that doesn't prove he ACTUALLY used it!" What a joke.
>>569498758that's because people here don't actually play the game to experience these loops
>>569498795Have you tried not posting riichi shitty wwyds
>>569498795oh, so you got mad over one little meme?
>>569497136That was an interesting visualization. Thanks anon!
>dogshit early thread
>page 8>we're not even 300 images inholy early
>>569499010where did i mention rc?god this place is retarded
>>569499067>>569499153>nooooo you have to wait until after I already posted another dogshit saki thread, cause... cause... you just do
>>569499161post a segamj screenshot then
>>569499007hahaha
>>569499051Why are you replying to yourself
>>569499161You mentioned meme replies which only rc gets
>>569497136This does not visualize the effect of variance.You can play a game with zero luck involved and still create a graph like this. The only difference being how often you face players better than you.
>>569499397>The only difference being how often you face players better than you.Which is... Variance! Wow.
>>569499502you're going to die on this hill aren't you keknoble, but stupid.
>>569499301
>>569499621uhhhh ron?
>>569499621the client
>>569499594Considering I'm objectively correct, yes.
>>569499621draw a tile first retard
>>569499759alright buddy, you tell yourself thatwe'll be over here ranking up by the waymight come over to check up on you once in a while, just to make sure you're still looping
>>569499872I'm a saint already but go do your cute rank ups to Master and Expert haha
>>569499621where are the anime girls
>>569499297So true, xister, you know all about /mjg/ because you've been here all summer.
>>569499502No, it isn't. Not in the way you're using it.In a game based 100% on luck maybe this would be accurate.But in a game where there are skill elements you will not actually get the results on the graph because your results are influenced by other factors that you are baselessly simplifying to "variance" in your mind.If I queue up in a 1v1 FPS 1000 times against the same guy who is worse than me I will win near 100% of the time.And anyhow, you haven't shown any indication that what happened to him is remotely possible. Even if we assumed it is possible to loop once, which I have seen no evidence of happening to a real person, and only in your imaginary charts, it happened to him 3 times.
>>569499970sure you are bud, proud of you!oh but watch out! you'll be back to expert soon!hahaha
>>569499840nah fuck you
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>>5694989231) it happened twice, you can't read charts. when an anon first reaches gold room, he does it from adept, not jade.and yes, the simulated walks with the existing placement rate is enough to show that with a game count as large as his you could actually loop twice in the period. it's not even that rare.>inb4 variable probabilitynot a factor here, we aren't predicting the future performance - we are modelling his rank movement in X games starting from expert 1 given Y placement rates in gold and jade.yes the win probabilities might be variable both in small periods of time and also in large periods of time but we know the way variance turned out for him in this world.2) this is only evidence given that there are no other resonable conclusions.
>>569500462>the most important factor is not a factorYou can't just say this and have it be true you know.
>>5695003523/4 powerful opponents
>>569500047>But in a game where there are skill elements you will not actually get the results on the graphYet we are looking at those results right now.What you're misunderstanding here is that over the course of 2000 games a player generally improves and learns more so using the entire 2000 game sample size/rates becomes rather inaccurate since it's usually skewed to being worse rates at the start and better rates at the end.But this is assuming one improves. If one doesn't improve and plays consistently the same, this is what happens.
>>569500352I'm going to join just to have fun
>>569500736What you are misunderstanding is what a random walk actually is.
>>569500994Yet you're the one bringing up shit like "muh FPS winrate" as if it matters in the slightest
>>569500352full
>>569501146Wrong person, there are multiple people here telling you how retarded you are, and one shitposter or two it seems.Still haven't substantiated any of your arguments with any semblance of correct statistical arguments by the way.
>>569501418Ah, so you're still just jumping in after you got btfo.
>>569500567>the most important factor is not a factor.i think you might be retarded.what you are saying here is that his placement rate might have been different if he played these 2300 games again.this being true doesn't discount the walk at all. it's just infinite sample size bitching. how many games do you need before you are willing to declare that the variance has normalized? 2300 is more than enough.even if you think about him being stronger in the later stages than the stats suggest, we know that the average across all the games he played so far resulted in these placements.this is what i mean by we don't care about future performance in this walk. the variable probability is a non-factor since we are averaging out the results from when he was bad and when he was good. (not that the bot match rate shows any improvement kek).
>>569501591Brother you are not flipping a coin or rolling a dice. You can't apply this to mahjong.Take the L bruh.
>>569500736>Yet we are looking at those results right now.Looking at what results? Your graph with one peak?You might as well have randomly drawn a line on a piece of paper and made up your own interpretation for what it means, it's no different from what you're trying to do with this graph.Show me a real person among anyone in the amae database getting to saint from expert 3 times in 2000 games and we'll talk. I think you'll have difficulty finding even one person who went from saint to expert.
>>569500352gg
>>569500352gg, thanks for the fun games!very cool rinshan yakuman
>>569500352FAKE DAISANGENDISHONEST YAKUMANgg
>>569501701nta but you are. you declare riichi you're the same as all in in poker. the runout controls your fate. the hands fighting the riichi are also on average a bit stronger so you these huge swings of +/-8000/12000 on essentially a coin flip. you also have these open dora 3 good wait hands which are also essentially an all in unless you're 1st by a lot.
>>569505390lol
>>569501591Why are you pretending that the random line you drew on a graph resembles his results at all, and then sticking your own explanation on that false claim as if it's obvious?
>>569498862>>569498862>>569498862Thread's over here dummy
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>>569510460SHUT UP
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