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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>569401195
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Kill all Hoodwink enjoyers.
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HELP ME DELIVER THIS THING!
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>>569473117
... on opposite day.
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>>569473064
>Dashfernus with green items and play the frontline/initiator
If you do this in my games I will find you and boil you alive.
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Sex with Venator
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is lightning scroll actually good on mina
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>>569474036
I know what's not good, and it's your game.
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>>569474036
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is new urn capture field a cylinder or a sphere?

if its a cylinder that spans all the way into the sky ceiling, could you sit in it as vindicta at the very top with extended duration, echo shard on flight, and ethereal shift? just draw it out for over a minute straight
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TIME TO PULL OUT THE BIG GUNS
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BREED
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>>569474313
For me, it's duration + cooldown + echo shard cube as Viscous
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>>569474313
There are no spheres in deadlock
Everything is a cylinder and I hate it because walkers stomp you from miles away when you're jumping around the area
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>>569474313
Even at max flight height most enemy teams wouldn't have much trouble killing you
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does the game need more varied item costs, or are the 4 rigidly defined tiers enough?
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biscoos is on da loof
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>>569474440
i hate getting mokrill ulted from three floors beneath me
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>>569474465
Keep it simple, it's perfect right now with investment spikes (one T2 + one T3, two T1s + one T3 etc...)
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>>569474440
Same as how Haze ult doesn't seem to have a ceiling
>Get Haze ulted as Lash in lane (this was before it became a cone)
>Grapple away
>Still getting shot up in the air
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>got demoted because I AFK'd to take a shit
bros... should I have had held my shit until the match ended?
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>>569474640
true gamers leave steamy dumpers in their pants
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watching a Seven with Alchemical Fire absolutely shredding.
stun, fire, ball, guaranteed kill.
this seems like it shouldn't work this well.
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Valve should add a vampire to deadlock that's a white woman instead of a dog-eating gook whore.
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My mate's boosted beyond belief, he got all the way to Oracle by onetricking ult Seven (no orange items, rushes lightning scroll) and now constantly complains that he's in "elo hell"
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>>569474976
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shouldn't this have spirit power or something on it?
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>>569474976
>white woman
She would be perfect for BIC (Big Ixian Cock
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>>569474640
You deserve Seeker. Where a diaper or let loose.
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>>569474976
Imagine Abrams stretching her out with his girthy BBC (Big Blue Cock) hhhnnnngggg....
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>>569475053
That's not a woman, retard.
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>>569475394
do you think ixians have color-based dick size fetishes too? what other colors do ixians even come in? is there bpc (big purple cock)?
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An obnoxiously bright lime green Ixian would be funny.
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>Victor still guarantees that he gets the urn by just going in and dying

Nice experiment, really, but when is it ending?
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>>569475629
Proof?
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>>569475860
just stand behind a wall nigga
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The eventual female ixian should be purple.
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They should add Apollo's dad as a character and he's bright orange and obese and has blonde hair and wears a business suit
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They should add some sexy babes with hooves to this game.
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STICKIN EM
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Ixians be like
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>>569476268
Infernus is not on this chart.
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>>569475670
We can infer ixian race equivalents based on which ones are in the game. Red = fair skinned, western european or WASP. Blue = swarthy but honorary white. Black = black. We just need an asian and slav ixian so we can know what their skin colors are.
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What is the lore reason for Sinclair''s assistant being lady Geist?
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>>569476638
Placeholder ASSetā„¢
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>>569476638
Uncle Dane May 2024 incident.
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>>569476638
Sinclair be makin his wife look like a PAWG like Geist n shiet
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>>569476719
To this day I still don't understand the nerve of this guy
>Yes I WILL stream this private playtest to my underage discord kittens
>IT LEAKED??? IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
Is every TF2 content creator a senile, bitter old man or something? Dumb question, obviously yes.
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So with the new urn is it impossible to make a comeback?
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How Valve will even monetise Deadlock when cases and ultra rare random items are basically dead?
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>>569477017
Same way as Dota cosmetics and maybe some subscription based slop like Dota+
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>>569477012
It's weaker if ahead or neutral, comeback is very possible.
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>>569477017
Sexy skins of Mina, Paige, Celeste, Vindicta and Silver, DUH!
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>>569477017
A subscription like CS where you pay money to not play with the subhumans
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Agh's when?
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>>569477306
Are you willing to pay 1k for each set of skins with Valve's new and innovative (((dynamic pricing system)))?
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>>569477537
I'm buying every single skin just for autism at this point, plus they may eventually be worth something so I can meme that its a investment
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>>569477690
>I'm buying every single skin just for autism at this point, plus they may eventually be worth something so I can meme that its a investment
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When are we getting picrel for Abrams?
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what is the point of being able to delay bashdown? many, many other abilities would benefit way more from the ability to hold them.
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>>569478063
Valve already has that cosmetic ready to go for launch
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>>569477690
Gayben here. I personally asked Icefrog to have an Ivy bunnysuit ready for launch.
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>really like to split push, steal enemy jungle and sinners
>prefer to have low impact on teamfights without being useless
>bonus if the character is able to easily escape being jumped 1v2+ or can even make good use of magic carpet
Suggest me 4 heroes
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>>569479625
shiv
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>>569479625
Literally anybody who can enter tunnels (Rem, Calico, Mo)
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>>569479625
DEBATABLY wraith
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>>569479930
mokrill can enter the little tunnels? with burrow?
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>>569480368
Yep
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>>569480368
You can't use most exits unless you have warp stone and burrow has a long as shit CD so you should almost never go in them though
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>>569479625
doorman, rem, ivy, sinclair
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>>569475892
shh dont tell em cover protects you
Most of the time it doesnt even work
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>the MMR assassins have found you
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>>569477012
Niggas like you can't make a comeback no matter what.
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>>569479625
Bolt Sinclair + Veil Walker + Magic Carpet is borderline uncatchable.
But stealing triple T3 camps are not worth their time. Aside from Rem I don't think anyone can steal Sinners and camps better.
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>>569483581
Where did you find this picture of me
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I have a 40% winrate
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>>569484102
Shivbro...
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>>569484102
spirit venator chad...
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>>569483581
Just one of those nights
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How do we feel about new urn?
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>>569485117
I think the area should be a little bigger.
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>>569484991
based rapist player
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>>569485117
I think the area should be a little smaller.
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>>569485117
I think the area is fine as it is
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>>569485117
It's exactly the same shit as before. Every game, aoe and ult slop spam. Might as well just play overwatch if laning phase is going to have zero impact on the game
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how many more patches until Icefrog just says fuck it and delete urn from the game and add something else?
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>>569479625
Rem, Sinclair, Ivy and Calico
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>>569483402
>cover protects you from Viktor ult
>being in the air 20 metres doesn't protect you from Viktor ult

so retarded, the thing is literally on the ground
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>>569485850
I personally can't wait for the urn to give you bonuses beyond stats and souls, like buffing minion waves or spawning a giant mech that you control with two players.
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>>569477451
>T3/T4 purple
>Imbue on a non-ultimate ability of your choice
>That ability acts one AP tier higher than it currently is
>If the ability is already at its max level, grants it a new unique bonus
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Victor is absolutely fucking busted
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>>569486242
if youre behind fat pillars, statues or signs on the map it also doesnt protect you so its retarded either way
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Paige is very fun when you snowball early
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>>569487037
what's funny is people thought wallbreaker victor is F tier now, but all he got was a slap on the wrist. it's very much still viable and overpowered
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>Abrams dies 10 times in lane
>Complains about how shit Abrams is
>He's just heavy meleeing and getting parried over and over
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>>569486385
just add tormentors on the shitty T3 camps on the offlanes and after you kill it get mega perma buffs and a 1 way portal per hero for the team that killed it to the other side
With a random chance to spawn an enhanced legendary item, its time icefrog
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Post your all time stats
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They do lots of things
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>>569486385
how about a roshan drops mechanic? obviously it won't be the same but think of it as the team who secures the first urn gets X and so on and so forth
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Oh my fucking god. Can I get ONE FUCKING GAME where half my team doesn't die a dozen times in lane?
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>>569487445
Me as I send little helpers to crash the crypto market the 4th of June 2026 at 8 a.m.
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Well?
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They should give Warden Abaddon's ult.
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>>569488143
Has potential for 6 in the right hands.
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>>569485117
should be cylindrical, but not too tall that flying becomes advantageous.
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>>569487184
the rare paige damage number that isn't <20k or >100k
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I am genuinely addicted to the gameloop of laning and early ganking but realising how many games just turn to shit immediately after that is depressing. I'm on a 7 loss streak right now and every single game just went down like
>duo wanted to swap into eachother
>they go a collective 0-12
>they don't try to recover in any manner, kinda the same thing that made them feed that much in lane in the first place
>they keep forcing fights non stop
>the game just becomes completely uncontrollable as your guys force 2v4s in the worst places imaginable
it's kinda crazy to me that someone can get to eternus and still be this bad at recognising game state and how to play from behind. it's like they got here dominating with some braindead hero and then they reach a skill level where they need more than just playing a braindead hero and they just go 4-14 every single game until the game feels bad enough for them that it drags them back upwards.
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>Melee Abrams dies 22 times
>He says it's his first time playing Abrams
Forced 50 isn't real btw
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>>569473405
>doesn't actually kill anyone because they have 1600 investment in spirit at 25m
>is just really obnoxiously difficult to shut down because they run fucking dispel magic, unstoppable and sometimes even indomitable if the game goes on long enough
>can literally be just ignored
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>>569485117
I think the urn was fine when it forced burger boxing, i think it still fine now but i have a bigger problem with characters being unbalanced as fuck for the longest time possible, the disparity between pocket having infinite up time on his broken abilities, with seven, dyanmo and haze being close behind and paige rem graves etc being fucked into the ground almost every match makes no sense to me
>inb4 wr
Ok then nerf seven dyanmo and victor, they have high winrates and then buff the fuck out of shiv cause clearly he's weak going by winrate.
The problem i have is the balance making no fucking sense, literally it's not consistent if you go by WR, it's not consistent if you think about it logically, it's not consistent if you go by pro play and it's not consistent if you go by stats and how much each kit has. Shit makes no sense, it genuinely feels like they're just playing favorites which ruins the game since you only have fun when your team rolls the broken characters, it feels like you're forced into picking broken characters even when you don't enjoy playing them
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I have finally climbed out of shitelo. Does my opinion matter now?
Don't I think will keep playing until the big new content patch, feeling burned out after all the urn changes
This newest version is less cancer but still, AOE slopfest.
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>>569489314
Dishonest heroes, you didn't really climb
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>>569489441
Almost all of my games were on billy before he got giga buffed, he was weak but he didn't need to be the tankiest fucker in the game.
That's my issue with the game's balance too, they either take things way too far or way too little, with little inbetween.
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>>569483889
wait is it not worth stealing jungle then?
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>>569489819
yeah billy was fine already... I fear he might get excessive retaliatory nerfs.
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>mcginnis holds egg till end of the game
What was the plan here?
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>>569490697
hold the egg
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AYE'LL HYIT AS MENNY AS I CYAN :)
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Ghost thighs
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>>569488571
This was me yesterday but I died 12 times.
Gotta say I think Billy is a better melee hero
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>>569491140
Abrams straight up isn't a melee hero.
If melee items were better it could be viable but as of now he's just a AOE spammer
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>>569491140
>>569491271
He's not a melee hero purely because he doesn't have a melee ability like bashdown or goo punch (yes I know the latter got nerfed to shit but still)
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>Billy blasted and Abrams resilience can passively negate a parry as a cooldown ability
There. I mixed the meleegawd playstyle
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>Alchemist 1
>2 losses
>Seeker 5
>1 win
>Seeker 6
>2 losses
>Seeker 4
>2 wins
>Alchemist 1
>2 losses
>Seeker 5 and cycle continues
I am actually going insane
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>>569490697
>Selling egg
>In this economy
Ngmi
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Ghost feet
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>Victor says it's his first time playing the character
>Proceeds to absolutely feed his ass off in lane and for the rest of the game, levels ult last too
>Turns out his enemy laner is an Apollo onetrick
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>>569473117
They really need to add Hoodwink to this game.
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>>569491271
>>569491487
nta, he's a melee hero in the sense that he has stuns and unstoppable both of which allow him to melee confirm, but i agree that going mostly spirit tank with abrams is better
>>569491675
>giving a shit about rank
I'm just playing for fun, unfortunately sometimes i get a 1/11 venator that when i die in a team fight under walker i see him shooting at the wall saying "let them end" on chat.
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>>569491893
Listen bro Apollo has like the lowest winrate in the game, let him have this okay
I can tell you he ain't winning many games these days.
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>>569491487
>Shoulder charge counts as melee and scales with melee damage
You like?
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Does Silencer work on Ricochet?
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>>569492067
Every on hit works with Ricochet
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>Silver gets fed like crazy in lane, running around 12/0 demolishing everybody, ends the game 22/3
>Nobody on my team gets metal skin or disarming hex
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>>569492169
Whoa.
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>>569491980
>and unstoppable
Yes, being able to freely heavy melee for 5 seconds every two minutes is so gamechanging
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>>569492308
>is so gamechanging
I never said that anon, you're replying to the voices in your head again
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>>569492193
Normally silver is shit but yes im going to start nabbing disarm if I see one getting out of control from now on.
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What is supposed to be in the next big update?
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>>569492652
jungle rework in august (yamato gt etc. new models coming possibly a bit earlier, most likely later)
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>>569491980
I indirectly care about rank because the games get worse and worse as I rank down more and more
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>>569492652
ive never seen a good gun paige
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>>569474465
>>569474565
They should remove investment spikes and leak the stats into items and be more flexible with item costs. Some items do not rigidly fit into 3 or 6k and should be somewhere in between for what they offer. Like I honestly think there's cases where they want an item to be more accessible than T4 but then they're forced to give it mediocre stats because it's in T3 and that makes it a bad item. Shadow Weave is a good example. Headhunter is another. Hollow Point..
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Remove itemslop
Remove parryslop
Remove movementslop
Remove urnslop
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is anyone else just getting the worst teams imaginable very recently? I'm on a 7 loss streak and every single loss it's just people unapologetically running it the fuck down from minute 0. I'll be 3 minutes into a game and we're already 0-6. Then by 15 minutes it's something like 13-36. And we just lose 70k behind.
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Unstoppable is too powerful of an item. Dota2 figured this out ages ago and created a few little exceptions to go right through the effect.
The question is: when will Deadlock?
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>>569492907
it doesn't get better
no matter what rank you are in, the matchmaker will find some way to put a 1-11 player into that game.
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>>569493160
You got placed in loser queue please understand, EOMM shenanigans and whatnot
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>>569479625
Mirage
Vicious
Apollo
There is no fourth
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>>569493247
Dynamo ult should ignore unstoppable.
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>Pocket lives in a sewer with a bunch of sentient giant rats because his dad wants him dead, also he fucks frogs and gives people AIDS (affliction)
Average nonbinary person
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>>569489314
>victor
>billy
>warden

fuck you
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>>569476943
I think he did that cause he was pissed off that valve even made a game (ASSFAGGOTS) like this to begin with.
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>>569492169
Siphon doesn't but thats because it would be actually the best item combo in the game
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>>569492652
gun update
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>>569493645
FUCK YOU TOO BUDDY
I haven't touched Warden since my first 100 games, how people play that guy is beyond me. Baby's first braindead hero
The garen of m1 heroes.
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>>569493691
that was his excuse, in reality he was hyped
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>>569493979
hyped for what exactly? does he even play the game still
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>>569493902
so you haven't touched warden for ages, you only played warden first 100 games...

so that makes you a victor one trick? that's even worse. fuck you again.
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>>569485117
it still sucks
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are we ready for the influx of overwatch and marvel rivals niggas when the game gets announced in summer fest?
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>>569493021
B8
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>>569494054
you haven't touched billy for ages**

i mistyped in my unbridled seethe and rage
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>>569493691
In hindsight though it makes a lot sense?
They have tons of developers on dota 2. Why wouldn't those devs want to create effectively dota 3 eventually?
Then again these are TF2fags and they're all emotional dementia patients.
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>>569485642
>>569485356
>>569485684
the area should start to shrink after 30 seconds pass
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>>569494117
They've already been here and have been the majority of the playerbase since old gods update. Trophy collector and urn changes were literally made for them because Valve can see that most of the playerbase wants to BROOL
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>>569494175
>>569494054
Don't make me post my 60+% victor winrate
We carry every game with our AOEslop
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>>569490697
It was never about the souls.
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>>569494016
>for what
a new game and content to make
>does he still play
maybe in a different account, who knows? problem is that his tf2 fanbase is part of the retarded and rabid kind so they would execute him if he even dares to give it a chance in the future
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>>569491271
>the character that has passive increased melee damage and a melee lifesteal buff on infernal resilience is not a melee hero
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>>569494692
>the character that has passive increased melee damage and a melee lifesteal buff
Both of these are terrible and have zero impact.
With the passive you're healing 40hp off every heavy melee, and that's WITH melee items.
Its pure meme dogshit. You never see high elo players do melee abrams besides maybe grapping spirit snatch.
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>>569494692
the increased melee damage is 0.10 per boon btw
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This nigga is literally lying lmfaoo
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Billy should get a free parry pierce when using blasted
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remove parries
remove urn
remove ranks
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how come I keep getting games where I'm 1st or 2nd networth on my team while playing a roaming support and never touching sinners or solo lanes? why am I always on the team that forces shit fights permanently and just decides they're NEVER going to farm
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>>569496014
>why am I always on the team that forces shit fights permanently and just decides they're NEVER going to farm
EOMM loser queue, please understand
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>>569496183
Paige should also have a tacky wolf t-shirt
You just know why
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>>569496183
My wife Silver is so cute in her retarded meme shirt
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>>569496992
SNNNIIIIFFFFFFFFFF
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what does sex feel like? I main Shiv btw idk it that matters haha
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>>569497284
Falseflagging Apollokek
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>>569497284
Your partners will never know you better than your hand.
Treat it with respect
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>>569497284
if you ever executed the entire enemy team then you already know what it feels like
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>>569497284
YER DED
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>The virgin echo shard bomb Bebop
>The CHAD echo shard hook Bebop
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>>569498334
Max uppercut resets the hook cooldown tho.
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>>569498334
Does selling the echo shard and instantly rebuying it let you change slots at 0 soul costs? I wouldnt expect it to but itd be nice to do echo shart bomb while its relevant thant transition to pick bepop as spirit res shows up
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I echo shard Tag Along because my cock is HUGE!
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For me, it's echo sharting Viscous cube
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>>569498913
For the healing right? The healing right?
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I don't understand what to do
I can't ever charge the ult
Gun does 0 damage unless you are standing point blank and it's way harder for me to hit someone point blank rather than shooting from a far
I don't survive long enough to charge the ult
Why do I feel like shit playing this character it's so fucking annoying
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>>569499513
gotta have cold front at the least, it charges the ult a bit with no skill needed
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>>569477537
It annoys me how Valve is universally lauded as some gaming messiah, yet they're the reason most of today's games are filled with skinshit. Dota 2 is basically unplayable because most of the players in the lobby will be wearing 3 articles of clothing with a shitton of flaming golden particle effects, a pet armadillo that flies around the map looking like a projectile and shit like that.
Very ironic coming from the company that put so much emphasis on "instantly recognisable silhouettes in TF2".
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>>569499513
>Xe's playing gun Silver instead of spirit Silver
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>>569500323
Please tell me this is a video of Rem's bussy getting plapped
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>>569498334
they are both equally faggy because they play bebop
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>>569487386
1488
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How many hours played does it take to get good?
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>>569500960
you really only start playing the actual game at like 500+ hours.
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>>569487386
I am not willing to show my 42% winrate here...
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>>569500775
Disgusting black creature
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>>569500960
400-500 hours
It took me roughly that long to reach ascendant (The rank where you stop being shit)
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>>569500323
little slut rat built for knots
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>>569501529
Abuse
His
Hole
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>>569500436
>>569501529
>>569501610
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My favorite thing about being stuck in shitlow is watching the other team all buy bullet resil to counter our one gun character which is a gun Paige.
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https://files.catbox.moe/meqmeg.mp4
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>>569502256
wat
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>victor
>dynamo
>graves
>on the enemy team
it was over before it even started
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>>569501862
>got two (you)s
Not easy being the best
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>>569502503
dynamo is fine now, seething m1gger
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>new urn got floormen to disband
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Every pro Drifter build I see says to buy Stalker but when I buy it I feel like I do no damage compared to buying Slowing Bullets.

Every pro match of Drifter I see is also a loss, but that's besides the point.
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Is Silver completely unplayable shit in the late game now?
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>>569500960
I played for 375 hours and got stuck in Emissary. Then I quit for a couple of months and now I'm Obscurus again.
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Does this game match stacks against other stacks or is it just a free for all?
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>>569503225
It does
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/dlg/ isn't ready for this conversation.
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It sucks so much to play this hero right now. The most fun hero is in the trash while braindead heroes are at the top. The fucking state of the game.
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>>569503428
You're a retard if you think winrates matter.
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>>569503428
My friend got all the way to phantom by twotricking ultbot Seven and ultbot Haze but now constantly complains about being in elo hell
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>>569502579
Floormen was kept together by one EU player solo carrying their dogass every game, not surprised.
Can't wait for the eventual ABL + Dimov superteam.
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>>569503619
Nuh uh you're a retard if you think they don't
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apollo should also get max ammo increase from spirit power so i can shoot for more than 3 seconds before i have to reload
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>>569503428
Victor had a similar thing and the high elo players kept insisting he's shit.
Give it a few months and Seven will be on every nightshift game I tell ya.
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>>569503862
What is "Quicksilver Reload" for 400 Alex?
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>>569504002
a dogshit item
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>>569503917
Wasn't seven picked this week and flopped
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Bullet res feels like such a meme item. There is no reason to pick it over escalating res, warp stone or metal skin.
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>>569504170
it used to be pretty good a while ago and then it got nerfed and became garbage compared to other bullet res options
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Why dont builds have point blank/slowing bullets on shiv?
I dont really see gun items at all actually.
Are they not worth it compared to spirit?
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>>569504170
It's just for if you're in some fucked up match against 4+ gun heroes
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>>569502845
Always was also she's shit in the mid and early game and also in lane
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>>569504170
buy it when you're winning, not when the guy with double your net worth finally registers in your feeble ass fuck brain as a problem.
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>>569505568
I bet her cookie STINKS!
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>>569504843
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>>569505854
I want her to rub it on my face until I can't smell anything besides stinky dog pussy
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>>569505568
Look at the BUTT on that
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>>569503917
why the fuck do retards keep using victor as an example when SPIRIT victor has never seen any use in night shift to this day. GUN victor doesn't need 30 minutes of farming unlike prime spirit victor or seven and therefore is viable in night shift
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>>569505854
why would it stink? did she use expired milk?
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>>569505875
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>>569506515
Because they didn't run gun Victor either
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My duo is playing tonight... Finally... I can healslut my victor...
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>>569506862
well yeah if seven gets changed in some way similar to victor's ult cooldown buff then of course there would be a chance seven would get into comp meta. in his current state, and with the current pace of the games, absolutely not
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>their last games was having a melty when forfeiting against a strategy they were gonna do too and getting humilated by the weakest EU team
Rip in piss
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>>569506891
FoidGAWD...
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So as a pooplow player, do I do gun Victor or spirit Victor? I'm an aimlet btw
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Is spirit victor back?
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>my grey talon has no stacks at 25 minutes
>their graves dcs
finally a balanced game
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>>569507451
wtf how is she grabbing her tits like that while she has her arms outstretched
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>>569507415
gun and just go full in on towers and lose the game with 40k+ obj damage
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>>569507660
she's a vampire
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>>569507660
Magic
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>>569507415
>>569507426
Spirit Victor is shit now that the urn isn't a burgerbox anymore, go gun
But if you are interested in doing spirit, get both radiant regen and infuser. The popular builds all include the latter but not the former
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>>569507415
You shouldn't go full gun but don't neglect it either. Rush all of your 4.8k power spikes then pick up shit like Scourge and Refresher.
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>>569507271
Soloq is so bad people are such sissies giving up at the slightest inconvenience then inting over and over
Phantom/ascendant is soloq hell
>>569507415
>>569507426
Yes spirit victor is back but personally I think he needs a good support to really work (at least on asc bc u can't farm in peace)
Pooplow it probably doesn't matter as much, run rawdawger's build or egg Frontline
Having good aim doesn't matter much on vic because of the aura slow + slowing bullets + always being in the enemy's face.
But if you build victor as gun you are a faggot
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>>569485117
I prefer burgerbox urn.
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We love Silver here, don't we folks
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>>569508223
Same
T. Victor player
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>try to main Silver
>eat shit every game despite everyone saying she's OP
Back to Victor like the shitter I am
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why didn't Arin at least put his weewee inside Mina's pockets before he got himself shot?
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>>569508462
The moral of Mina and Pocket is "never stick your dick in crazy."
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>>569508462
He's an AMAB enbie aka he was probably raped as a kid and has too much trauma from it to even have sex
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>>569507660
>he doesn't know about the leaked hero with shadow powers
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>>569508462
How do you know he didn't
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>>569508462
he became an aesxual xe/xim after getting molested to smithereens
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>>569508658
>>569508906
damn what did Calico do to him? Is she really that unattractive?
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these have been mandatory purchases for over 2 years. is this acceptable?
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>>569509025
Ava sex
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>>569509279
moving faster just feels good and is always useful.
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>>569509279
you have to eat your greens
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>>569509279
yet when i do it no one bats an eye
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picking S*lver should be a bannable offense
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>>569509573
should we repeat the same mistake twice?
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There is no finer feeling than shitting on some retard smurf and his 4stack. Yes, you killed me a lot. Yes, I built to counter you. But I won, and that's all that matters.

I bet I lift more too.
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>>569508240
Cookie general
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>>569510235
How do you know it was a smurf?
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>>569509972
Counterpoint: it should be bannable to not pick Silver
In an ideal world, every match would be 12 Silvers. Or 8 Silvers in brool
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we need another cookie hero but 4 legged this time
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>>569489819
>billy gets insanely fat as an emergency patch
>abrams gets 18% melee lifesteal (doesn't cleave) instead of solving the problem that he doesn't fucking deal any damage unless the enemy team feeds you and keeps letting you proc witchmail for free
I can't wait for both of my melee boys to get super nerfed instead of them just removing urn because AIIIIEEEE THE TANK THAT'S FIVE TIMES AS LARGE AS EVERYONE ELSE SURVIVED FOR THREE SECONDS FROM MY RAPE CC INSTEAD OF DYING IN TWO SECONDS NERF NERF NERF
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>>569475860
I think the victor experiment failed. They should just call it wraps and remove him from the game
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>>569504170
what if both res items get a 6.4k version that combines both + 3% to each resist?
would that make it worth buying
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>>569504170
truly is
metal skin just gives you way more value when shit goes down
it also completely invalidates haze's ult, so it's hilarious to see haze players turn into statues after realizing all 100000 of their bullets did not in fact do shit to me
it's also mandatory when going up against vyper
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>>569510423
He has three games on statlocker and his profile wasn't set up in Steam. It's pretty easy to tell a smurf.
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>>569510932
But you shit on him, so maybe it was just a new player?
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>Yoshi is now playable
how does he play?
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>victor up by a full 20k compared to our team
Can't stop him from farming either because,
A. Bullet fall-off has a very low range in this game, which forces you to get closer to him to deal damage (you are now in his 3, and he gets lifesteal plus his battery on top of it. lose-lose scenario motherfucker)
B. He had juggernaut, greater expansion, and was using ballistic enhancement on his 3, so you couldn't really outrun him either
So using spirit damage on him should be able to do something... right?
no. He's the only character in the game with regen that improves dramatically the more spirit power he gets, so at some point he is meant to be some unstoppable fucking killing machine if you don't bully him out the gate
this is not even taking into account things like spirit res or spellbreaker
>mf hides the moment he uses up his ult and is outnumbered, and hides away to farm for a little, and will only engage when he has ult
>rinse and repeat
>"gg ez <3"
game's meta is slowly but surely turning into DBD, oses7's prediction was absolutely spot on
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>come home from work
>queue up deadlock
>yoshi changed urn again
>amongst a million other things
is this game just not meant for people with jobs
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>>569511509
This happens when every carry gets 20k ahead thougheverbeit
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Meet Potential MM!
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>>569509972
Yes, only I should be allowed to play my wife Silver and anyone else that picks her should be permanently banned.
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>>569511509
Wow a late game carry farms and carries late game.

Not to downplay Victor, but someone has to be a winner and it's usually the guy that plays well and to his character's strengths.
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>>569473496
venator's beautiful hairy hole.....
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>>569511702
>is this game just not meant for people with jobs
Yes, it's a MOBA. Dadgamers like you get put on the sacrificial table for NEET GAWDS
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>>569488571
I always say its my first time after shitting the bed with heroes I have 50+ games with
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>>569511509
>game's meta is slowly but surely turning into DBD,
what's this mean for someone who hasn't played it
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>>569511702
well everyone who plays it is technically an unpaid qa tester
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when are we gonna get deadlock techies? we need a hero that pisses both the enemy and your own team
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>>569511509
As a Victor player (and this applies to all other carries): you can only carry so far, you can't exactly salvage the situation if there are multiple people on your team (I had a game today with a 0/18 Abrams and a 2/14 Wraith)
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>>569509279
The girl in Enduring Speed is kinda cute.
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>play a hero in street brawl to get a feel for them before queuing standard with them
>scared of shitting the bed and inting a game with a new hero
>end up playing the heroes i already know
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>>569512164
Anon, that's the god Hermes
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>>569511823
I would respect the hustle if it were a Venator, fuck I'd even take Seven or Infernus
but Victor has one of the most braindead kits in the game, and his ult's T3 gives him a constant rejuv that you can hardly do shit about besides focusing him again and hoping your team doesn't die the second time around
>>569511938
What's "meta" matters way, way more than enjoying the game, to the point where it infests every single part of the game, and forces the devs to make multiple, irreparable changes to the gameplay loop in order to compensate for shitty game design choices. I've seen MOBAs less toxic than DBD. Survivor bully squads will also DC (ragequit) in DBD if they don't get an immediate win either.
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>>569509992
I mean the urn is still in the game getting rework after rework so....
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They need to change graves passive, it's genuinely irrelevant
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>>569512339
its good on t3
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summer game fest reveal incoming
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Sex with the hideout Abrams minigame is going to get announced soon
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>>569511791
>Devs hid individual player ranks and suppressed the API to try and cover up controversial changes
this game's future ain't lookin very bright
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>>569511791
Fast matchmaking
Quality matchmaking
Low player count
Pick two
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>>569512339
just buff it along with her gun dps and autoaim range
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>>569512605
what happens if I pick fast and quality
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>>569512605
>Fast matchmaking
>Quality matchmaking
Good job with the choices retard lmao
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>>569511791
>reward for winning is worse players
Every time.
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How did they manage to make the most nerfed character stay the most powerful for 4 months straight?
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>>569509279

Bait items
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>>569509279
I mean have you tried playing a character that isn't a cuck and can skip them?
feelsgoodman
Also there should be more upgrades for enduring speed other than jugg
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>>569512595
Seeing the profiles ingame was literally THE way to find smurfs (yes, the guy that's only played 6 standard games and went 30/0 in all of them and is on a level 0 brand new steam account is totally a legit new player), now you have to rely on guesswork from a statlocker (that might not even exist for that account yet) or hints from their steam page (good luck if it's private), I have zero clue why they disabled seeing the profiles of non-friends
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crushing fists max stacks increased to 10, when you reach max stacks on someone they instantly die
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>>569512264
yes, and?
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>>569513167
based greek
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Billy and Abrams should have some sort of ability or passive where they can punch through a parry
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>>569512995
>stamina mastery
if you aren't a movementtrooning enthusiast it's absolute bait
>enduring speed
THE FIRES KEEP BURNIN' BRIGHTER
*zooms past you at mach fuck with enduring speed flame dashes, and rapes your jungles*
BURNING A PATH!
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>>569513030
to hide how bad the MM is
again, too much bad PR might leave a stain on the game for when it comes out of EA
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damn celeste is fun
hate her design tho
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>>569513304
https://files.catbox.moe/z1nerh.mp4
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>>569513447
get a load of this guy, I bet he doesn't even find horse cock and pussy hot
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>>569511791
>Newfriend gets placed in the murks of initiate 1
>He starts onetricking gun Victor
>Gets a 70% winrate on him (with 50 games played as him at this point)
>Bounces between initiate 5 and 6, literally can't even escape into seeker despite consistently getting MVPs as gun Victor
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>>569513007
that's a problem. only jugg.
need orange and purple upgrades too.
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>>569513752
"Sorry! You need [this many games] to get out of [current rank]!"
I'm almost half-convinced that this is how they have shit set up unless you manage to play at a skill lever way higher than that of your current rank
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>>569513752
Yoshi sees a boosted Victor player and gatekeepers him from ranking up. The system works.
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>>569513752
>70% wr on victor
>neglects to mention wr on other heroes
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>>569513752
prob because his pickrate in lower elos is aggressively high as fuck right now with the new urn changes
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>>569513752
Fucking BASED. Boosted Victor players deserve worse
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Which Urn shiteration has been the best one so far out of all of them?
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>Grave's passive removed
>it is now an active skill, its a channeling skill that last until either you get interrupted or you cancel it
>basic ability is Jar of the Dead lil niggas are now invulnerable for the duration, T3 upgrade increases the spawn rate of the zombies via the tomb and grasping hands
there you go, I fixed Graves
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>>569514180
Current one, worst was the middle, holy fuck that was cancer to play.
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>>569514180
burgerbox in the sidelane under the bridge.
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>>569512875
>THE number 1 player in NA can't melee the skulls and tries to shoot them
>IMMEDIATELY uploads the vid of him crying about how broken they are while he's playing seven of all heroes
How do you expect retards in shitlow and archon to defend against her skulls when even the supposedly best player in the game can't?
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>>569513447
unicorn circus stripper is peak design though?
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>>569514475
she should be black
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SILENCE, NIGGERS.
A GamerDAD SeekerGAWD SPEAKS his MIND
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Thanks to the anon that drew this. I didnt make it last thread
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>>569514180
Burgerbox and king of the hill are fun, the previous one where you put it in immediately weren't
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>>569514534
>defending talon
You're the seekertard.
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>>569514474
Graves falls off in effectiveness in Eternus 7. The rank 0 players know how to deal with her.
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>>569514180
The one in the museum in mid. Holy fuck that one was astoundingly bad.
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>>569514689
non sequitur
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I am linking this thread because you need the sound in his video clip for context.
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/something-about-infernus-dash-makes-him-get-hooked-in-slow-motion-sometimes.140580/
this guy is also a chronic forum user and posts other gems like this.
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/86671190-not-enough-damage-again.140155/
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/can-you-give-us-even-less-damage-next-time.140420/
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/86874963-the-exact-same-team-comp-as-last-match.140428/
and gets in extended arguments with people in unrelated threads.
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/still-initiate-at-250-hours-ruining-the-game-for-me.136364/
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>>569514534
This guy aside, counter buying is a bandaid solution at best
>you still take a bunch of damage through metal skin from haze and she can curse
>pockets abilities have basically 1~2 seconds of downtime while lasting an eternity and doing alot of damage and having alot of utility
>celeste gets to buy one magic carpet and now she can permeability fly and stay in the air with zero downsides
>dynamo seven etc etc
Some characters need some nerfs or reworks, or they should buff the counter items but as is it just doesn't function
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>>569514961
>modders
disgusting troons.
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>>569514821
>misread the 'best one' as the 'worst one'
well you're still not wrong though
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>>569514961
I didn't realize he crashes out in the "bad mm" megathread too.
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>>569514752
You'd think so wouldn't you
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lhFEW8cS2pk?
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>>569515491
Oh woops.
I don't know honestly I don't like urn at all.
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>>569515148
You need to counterbuy BEFORE a hero becomes a problem. Its much harder for haze to just buy curse when she has no money because you cucked her out of a few kills by having disarm/metal skin early in the match.
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>>569514534
In one of the vindicta aids metas I rushed Knockdown and it really wasnt that bad.3200 to delete a hero is value
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>>569515681
yes, counterbuying in mid game is strong, because teamfight outcomes become invaluable, and usually decide which direction the game is heading in after they happen
counterbuying falls off in late game though, because at that point the enemy team, or your team is ready to snowball through your base unless they happen to all somehow die by the grace of god
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>*does nothing in ur path*
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>>569515993
LET'S SEE WHO'S STILL STANDIN'
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>>569485117
Bring old urn back, just make it a bonus to souls gained instead of a soul payout
It would require the urn runners team to coordinate assaults on objectives with claiming the urn, and be less beneficial for the ahead team who probably has most of their objectives claimed already
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>>569514534
Redditors are too busy crying because someone said graves is hot and because some russian called them a faggot
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>>569515993
70k soul upgrade for melee charge enjoyers.
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>>569516179
>Bring old urn back
Fuck no, some fag dropping in and immediately getting it sucks, meleeing him out of the sky is basically impossible
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>>569514180
Right now I cant complain, at least compared to the previous reworks.
The urn doesnt feel like an absolutely mandatory objective like how midboss isnt mandatory and the king of the hill aspect makes it so only the winner of the ensuing teamfight wins the urn.
No more losing the urn because enough AOE heroes parked their ass on the urn and spammed parry
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>>569498658
>>569498334
>the GIGA CHAD echo uppercut bebop
THREE HOOKS LMAO THREE
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>>569516314
the problem is people buying this slop as their first T4 and not people buying it as a luxury item late game
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the higher I climb the worse people play
0/10 players are turning into 0/20 ones
>0/20 Victor stays behind after patron drop to try and 1v6 and is instantly deleted
>Infernus flame dashes into tower on 100 health because idk he thought he could lifesteal a ton of health 2 minutes into the game. he will do this 3 more times
>Haze keeps farming creep wave next to enemy base because I guess he thinks he can turn invis and that will fool the 4 dudes zip boosting into his ass
everyone has bad games, sometimes you just get focused by a well coordinated team that hates your guts
but holy shit
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>>569516460
I was thinking about this.
People bitch so hard about hooks, I wanna see what kind of crumbling mess they turn into when I deny their escape twice over
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>>569498661
nah and this would be op
you gotta bite the 3200 loss if you want to rebuy it
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>>569516608
I've seen wraiths get hooked from down town, get uppercut while hexed, they dispel and tp and they get hooked again immediately after. Genuinely hilarious fuck Wr*ith players.
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>HLX + Steam Machine + Steam Frame release dates all being announced at SGF today
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>>569516781
fun fact if you stoneform a wraith and pull them down right as they take their tp it will drag them all the way back to the stun.
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>>569514961
Oh hey, it's this retard, lol. Active member tag isn't very chronically online. You need Well-Known in order to be really up their (like me).
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>>569516934
...is a statement dreamt up by the utterly deranged.
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Phantom Strike is so good on pocket if you dont buy it I genuinely think you're throwing
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>>569514534
Just rush knockdown in lane bro
>he just down dashes every time you use it so you get minimal stun time
>he rushes counterspell after enchanter's emblem as part of his 4.8k vitality spike and you continue doing nothing to him all game
LOL!

same with vindicta, and that cunt doesn't even need to drop out of her flight to use counterspell for some BIZARRO reason
>yeah bro lets just let vindictas buy dispel magic + counterspell and force out three knockdowns so you can interact with her
>erm bwo just rush phantom strike
>gets dispelled and she just runs away with her million move speed
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>>569515148
>>you still take a bunch of damage through metal skin from haze
are you playing in a rank where she buys merc mag lol
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>>569516972
he's probably only been playing for like 5 months, with old gods update, give him some time. with the amount of times I see him crashing out on the forums he'll be there soon.
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>>569516572
why arent you parrying the tower so he can safely flame dash it?
not trolling btw this is real tech
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>>569516934
I believe steam frame will get a release date next. I doubt Steam Machine will. I honestly don't think HLX exists.
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>>569516216
based schizo
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>>569517359
because then I wouldn't be able to laugh at him for being a feeding retard.
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>>569515148
I mean the actual problem is curse removes buffs. Just take that way and remove the damage penalty and give it no stats. Put the dispel back on capacitor.
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>>569517552
you don't want a damage penalty free curse again. you don't want 12 curses before everybody reaches 30k souls again. it was even worse than the current dispel magic meta.
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>>569517250
I think well-known needs you to get reactions to your posts, so it's gonna be a while until he amasses enough haha reacts to reach it.
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>>569517674
I love how dispel magic literally makes it so you just don't get to enjoy t2/t3 actives. I would delete it from the game and make Divine Barrier the only way to dispel.
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>>569517914
The worst one is that anvils are dispellable as well as counterspellable. You best bet that you need 3 anvils to take down the fed Vindicta
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>>569517212
I mean it's all in tempo. Don't you just achieve the same thing throwing your cloak somewhere and warpstoning into some bullshit to get your afflictions off anyway?
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>>569517552
>I mean the actual problem is curse removes buffs.
The actual problem is that it's overloaded as fuck
>silence disarm interrupt and item silence
It literally stops you from the playing the game while the enemy rapes your defenseless body, and it lasts for 3.5 seconds without duration extender. Why buy silence and disarm items when this shit does both and more
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>>569516367
they should revert the value nerf and add a 20% bonus for trailing teams instead because people in shitlow are completely hypnotized by the urn now and flock to it when it's going to give them a whopping 500 souls with a bunch of jungle and guardians to farm left on the map
pretty much every game in emissary I end up slot locked because no one macros anymore
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>>569518043
Yeah it didn't feel too bad before the counter spell days because you would just coordinate with one of your randoms to also knockdown after. Now that's fucked and even Indomitable is something they pick up.
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They're most likely never touching graves again unless it's to nerf her, again, but i hope they change her passive, i just don't know what they can change it to
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>>569517914
yeah the item needs something changed about it.
we have lotus orb (divine barrier) and bkb (unstoppable) there's a reason they removed cleansing from purge (diffusal). manta is another soft dispel but it's T4 cost and functions more like counterspell since you need to be pixel perfect to dodge things with it.
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>>569518043
You actually need 4
>Trigger Indomitable
>Make her use Counterspell
>She uses Dispel Magic for the 3rd anvil
>You can now use knockdown on the vindicta
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>>569518453
Unstoppable :3
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>>569518453
Just use one Phantom Strike
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>>569514657
I fw this Rem
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>>569518917
I'm not tanky enough to survive the inevitable 1v6 when Vindicta's entire team ganks me and none of my team backs me up, and it's not in the L-R builds of my tanks either so they won't get it
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how do I improve aim without doing bullshit aim trainers? just brool as m1gger for 200 hours?
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Are the spectator matches high rank?
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>>569519664
I dont do trainers but I do training

I find practicing in the training map in game translates the best rather than 3rd party trainers. For deadlock tracking is more important than precision so id focus on those routines for the most improvements
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>>569519664
just practice
play aim focused characters a lot and don't care if you lose or do poorly
accept it as part of getting better
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>>569518164
why don't you macro then?
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>>569520357
but I'll be called names..
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Geoff is NOT going to announce Deadlock tonight.
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>>569520398
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>>569519664
aimlabs is free, otherwise you just need to play more games.
I have a thing I do while in queue where I keep hopping to the left and right of the pillar and try to snap to the orb coming out of the spawner.
you can also park in specific areas, changing the area each time, while sniping owls.
you can also go to the sandbox and practice shooting the moving target dummy from different positions.
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>urn is still a snowball mechanic
lol they'll never fix this thing
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>>569520495
we're still at least a year away from release.
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>>569520725
it has never once in the history of the game been anything other than a snowball mechanic. occasionally it can be used in 10% of matches as a comeback mechanic, but personally I believe this to be an unintentional use. they wouldn't add this to the game for any other purpose than snowballing, clearly
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>>569518453
*fast falls to negate the stun duration*

Nothing personal groundoids
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>Sinclair sitting in spawn with ult waiting for game to end instead of copying Lash/Silver in pit and wiping the entire enemy team
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>>569520725
>urn now only provides souls if you are down

There its fixed it, winning team will literally never do it outside of edge case denial plays
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>>569520991
>copying silver
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>>569520552
except musashi miyamoto
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>>569514180
Touchdown > KOTH > Touchdown (with delay) > Urn Smash
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>>569515993
>4.8k cost upgrade for an extra 10% melee damage over melee charge and a useless passive
Yoshit really cooked with this one
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How are niggers even building seven?
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>>569520183
fuck no lmao
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>>569519664
in game you adjust your aim by the movement you intend to do
e.g. if you're going to side dash and slide you're going to prime your arm to compensate for that when you execute it

no aim trainer can train you for this, just keep playing
it's not like deadlock is an aim game anyway past lane
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>>569514657
No problem lil guppy
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>>569520183
Was this post queued up since last year?
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>>569520183
thats the whole point lmao
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>>569479625
just play anyone because you're just going to throw and grief games
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>>569522004
CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!!!!
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>>569520618
aimlabs can only do so much when most characters bullet velocity has their bullets moving in slow motion, or when your damage falls off at 20 fucking meters

the shooting in this game is performative, the only thing that actually matters is having more souls, CC, and aoe slop
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>>569520384
because it's 12 minutes into a match and I'm not a graves or rem playing faggot
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>>569522004
CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUD!!!!
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>>569522731
aim is about mouse control aim trainers help with mouse control and this skill will translate to more than just shooters.
somebody with poor mouse control will miss abilities and be unable to pick targets in fights in dota too.
so just using a computer more will develop your mouse control more.
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if the urn gives up at 75s, before it throws souls into the sky, it should say "THAT'S IT! NO MORE GAMES!" and turn into a giant enemy urn (hit its legs for massive damage)
if it's defeated by either team the KOTH continues where it left off

it will continue hunting players and blocking urn respawn until it's defeated
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mid air melees now make you do a downard strike instead of stalling your fall and moving forward.

We get new melee animations, and schmoovers get raped a little.

Sneed it or Feed it?
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Do I really have to start banning McGinnis?
She is always on enemy team raping me and never on my team
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>>569522859
that's why you're hard stuck Emissary crying about your team then.
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>>569523193
Dogshit change.
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>>569523193
I think they should just rip off the smash bros melee with lights, heavies, directional inputs, grabs and combos

Brainlets will seethe tho
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>Abrams afraid to fight all lane phase
>Vindicta feeding
>Graves just kind of clueless in general
>still win somehow
the retarded teammate / player thing really does go both ways no?

https://litter.catbox.moe/yldkg1ggsknglbzl.jpg
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>>569523193
yeah lets gut the most harmless movement options how about we remove mantle sliding too
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>>569523741
I agree, lets remove that gay shit lmao
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>>569523652
>box
literally built for dogs
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>>569523652
I have a 52% WR and I'm all 3 of those every game
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>>569523093
Troopers should be replaced with Urns.
Jungle creeps should be Urns.
Guardians should be Urns
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what the fuck is up with Hollidays gun and why does it feel like her bullets actively try to ignore where you're aiming? this is unironically the worst feeling gun Ive ever seen in any game ever and it's not even close
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>>569523652
People here get mad when Abrams goes 0-22 in lane and they also get mad when Abrams plays safe in lane. Pick a side.
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>>569523930
you should try aiming at your target.
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>>569523860
as in a doghouse? i guess so but what does that have to do with deadlock?
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I don't understand how to use Shiv's altfire, I get firing to 90 degrees of the direction I'm going when sliding and have that down.
But I see other people firing straight backwards as well sometimes, and I can't manage to use it to get better wall jumps.
Most of the time I do anything slightly fancy it just results in all my momentum being killed and it slowing me down for some reason.
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>>569523930
Holliday actually has recoil. Most heroes in Deadlock dont.
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>>569524069
you should try not being a retarded faggot (impossible)
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It's finally over. I am free.
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>>569524120
https://youtu.be/Uh8Py4Et9hE
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>>569524223
you've been posting this for a week. what happened, did you fall back down to Ascendant?
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>>569524223
nice just wait until the game goes open beta and you will be boosted to e6 for free
(though they will probably add an immortal rank like in dota before then)
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bros...
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>>569524931
2 more urn reworks to flatten the curve
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>>569524403
Sure.
>>569524463
I've only posted me being Ascendant 6 and when I hit Eternus 1 I can finally uninstall/take a break from this game.
>>569524536
I really don't want to play with people who are e6. I simply wouldn't be able to keep up, and the passive aggressiveness would make the game unfun for me real quick
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>>569524931
the only people left are the sunk costers, average people can't stand this shit in it's current form
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>>569474465
There should be a T5 for all the legendary street brawl items that costs 13k each but besides that they're fine as is.
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>>569524931
This chart is bullish af
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>>569524931
nerf healing.
items need a huge update.
legacy heroes need a huge update.
we're still not ready for art passes.
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>>569525410
>nerf healing.
so there's this cool thing in the game called anti heal.
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>>569524223
Make sure to put that on your tinder profile
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>>569524931
Yoshi just needs to release another batch of heroes and we will maintain sustainable growth.
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>>569525534
if that worked then why is healing so strong?
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I just ulted Victor 4 times in a span a minute
Best feeling ever
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>>569525671
Because they have to buff healing to account for anti-heal existing
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>>569525586
I really don't give a shit about more heroes when the average match just plays like complete one sided dog shit and you're entirely at the mercy of who got the coordinated stack on their team.
>>569525671
Because people don't build anti heal. Be honest when's the last time you saw a haze building crippling headshot or inhibitor to deal with someone with sustain. If anything it's like their 8th luxury item 60k in or something.
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>>569525586
there's at least one more batch before release.
do you think that batch should come out before fixing the legacy heroes?
right now the only playable heroes are ones released in both of the voting periods.
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>>569524223
now here's the fun part where I tell you anything up to eternus 4 is dog shit. that you literally only get humans when you hit top 1000.
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>>569525286
so... we invest in the dip because it will moon soon?
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>>569525859
>in a span a minute
well, you get what I'm saying
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>>569525881
>right now the only playable heroes are ones released in both of the voting periods.
Not even remotely true
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>>569526057
>t. phantom 3
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>>569524120
it's 90% away from the direction you're already moving, or more specifically the direction your momentum is pushing you in. on walljumps this means you often want to shoot directly into the wall (because the walljump angle will naturally put you at the right angle) and off vents you actually want to shoot behind you at about 45 degrees upwards (because that's an upwards + forwards impulse instead of just forward like sliding)
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>>569503619
Winrate is the only thing that matters. Everything else is an opinion.
The goal of deadlock is to win the game.
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>>569525881
There will 100% be 2 more batches and a set of reworks before release. Releasing with 50 heroes seems like the sweet spot of variety and what you can reasonably learn in a short manner of time.
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>>569526086
Its obvious that Deadlock is gonna be yuge. We don't even have player retention mechanics or skinner boxes in place yet.
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>>569526248
nah I'm eternus 3. e4 lobbies are literally like some shit you see in oracle. it's full of account buyers.
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>>569526408
if there's 2 more batches we're 2 years away from release.
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>>569526592
The next batch is about 1-3 months out by this point. Then the final batch would be 6-8 months after that which would put us in a possible 2027 release.
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>>569526592
2 more batches would be more like a mid 2027 release which sounds likely
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>>569524931
Don't worry even cryptos and stocks are dumping right now.
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reminder that shiv might have a bad winrate in low ranks, high ranks, and "pro" games like night shift, but he's actually S tier because I say so
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>>569526734
just in time for ps6 and xbox helix!
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>>569526798
Cool, may I see his winrate in pro games?
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>>569526798
Thats factual thobeit, its a skill issue even in dns
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>>569526787
what happened? why is tech tanking?
or is it just people liquidating to buy Anthropic SpaceX OpenAI IPOs?
good thing I'm not a daytrader though. my portfolio has 5x from my 2020 purchases.
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>>569526410
what are you talking about? the entire game is a skinner box. you are no better than a gambler, queueing up with the thought of "maybe this match I get to be the guy"
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>>569526173
you're forgetting everyone in /dlg/ is eternus
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these niggas against people that don't deposit the urn to not give the trailing team resists in emissary
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>>569527145
my bad
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Rem's juicy, smooth shota butt
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They should let players move the urn capture spot around the map.
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>>569527541
>Silver isn't even in the top 11 most broken heroes according to high elo winrates
That's it, writing a forum post for more buffs
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>>569514961
I love this retard. He insists "Seven isn't a carry because he does no damage".
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>>569528113
he would fight right in with /dlg/ someone link him here
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>>569479625
Calico
Rem
Ivy
Shiv
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>>569503428
Pros are right, hes shit. Aggregate stats look good but the top seven is 19th place. Skill ceiling is low and power level is mid.

Inb4 retards bring up winrate, this is also winrate but from different perspective
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>>569528289
what are those categories?
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>>569528113
>Seven isn't a carry because he does no damage
This is why Yoshi doesn't pay attention to feedback
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>>569528567
Wraith does no damage too! Please buff her! She's black!
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>>569528054
trophy collector stacking thingamajig
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>>569527884
WOW THIS IS SO CO-
>never uses it again
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>>569528732
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>>569528732
Billy mains cumming in their pants
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>>569528732
there is already indom for that
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>>569528370

Peak mmr per hero eu server. I had a winrate only one but i was getting a lot of people q'ed with low ranks. Higher mmr means you are winning in tougher lobbies which says more than simple winrate that does not discriminate the opponent strength

This was also right before the switch to koth urn so it might have shifted
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>>569528289
>dynamo in d tier
???
>this is also winrate but from different perspective
so an opinion, then
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>>569528732
Also it removes your ability to shoot or use abilities. You can only melee
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Why is Silver being weak or strong so mixed in this gen
you never see this kind of shit with characters like Paige or Holliday
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>>569529014
Its not an opinion, see
>>569529005
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>>569529005
where do you see mmr?
don't tell me it's statlocker hallucinations...
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>>569529219
Waifufags are a blight
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>>569529219
furries and trannies started playing deadlock to play silver and install goon mods and play this game like it's modded skyrim shitting up the lobby for everybody else.
they should just fuck off back to x.
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>>569529219
She generates a lot of seethe at the higher end of play, hence why she gets shitposted a lot.
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>>569529005
Did you find out what the Peak MMR was from Statlocker...?
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>>569528862
>Just melee once every 40 seconds bro
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>>569529269
>>569529483

Yea it was statlocker but their valve leaderboard data not the statlocker inhouse board, how does it hallucinate?
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>>569529005
You're judging character strength based on the power level of their dedicated one-trick players? Am I reading this correctly? That information says more about the players than the heroes they play.
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>>569529689
as long as it's not PP or whatever the fuck else. that website says I'm still Emissary but I'm Ascendant.
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*DSP honk snort pig voice* 0 carry comp again
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If you play a hero with sub 50% winrate at E6 you're actively throwing.
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>>569530087
Gonna cry about it? Maybe shit your pants?
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>>569529757
Yes the idea is to minimize the impact difficulty has. So if you played perfect and the enemy played perfect then this is how it would turn out(roughly)
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>>569530028
could you imagine maining bebop and having that dogshit mod and having it scream OMG IS THAT HATSUNE MIKU every time you cast hook and who knows what other dogshit voice lines there are?
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when you base your entire view of the game around win rates you end up looking like an idiot trying to explain how mirage was "one of the weakest heroes in the game" and is now extremely popular in eternus lobbies because of...just because ok???
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classic daily game against faggot on victor
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AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
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there is no reason to not build silencer on every m1gger. 12% spirit res, instant -25% to all spirit damage and builds up a 2.5 second silence. the only time you'd be justified not buying it would be if you were matched against 5 venators and a haze
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>>569529254
I accept your concession.
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>>569530270
>mvp ranks
wtf does this stat even mean? this is what mine looks like.
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>>569530461
boosted shitters tanking his wr after he stopped being a free win. same thing happened to mina if you remember
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how is every other poster eternus when other generals might have like 2-5 top rank players max
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the fact that lash and dynamo can be on the same team is ridiculous
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>>569530293
nigga you suck. he is literally 1v11 gaming. look at the damage on the rest of his team.
>haze 13k
>infernus 16k
>paradox 21k
>ivy 13k
>vindicta 11k
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sick and tired of victor in every lobby of mine, absolute pedo hero and I'm chronically phantom so I'm too shit to not get raped by him
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>>569530785
because top rank in this game is like 5k players in each region
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>>569530293
>victor only relevant enemy
>didnt buy crippling headshot aka the DELETE VICTOR item
deserved loss, expected of silver shitter
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>>569530785
Because /dlg/ is high IQ compared the average drooling retard general
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>>569530285
yea but Mirage has received an enormous amount of changes since the march update, and has received some buffs and nerfs here and there since
so it's not just
>"hehe le big number go up for some reason, me like"
there's usually a reason for why a hero's winrate and pickrate will increase or decrease depending on what about the game was patched
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>>569530610

list is 100% objective data, nit pick the method if you want but its definitionally not subjective
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>>569530740
projecting seeker
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>>569531051
>victor deleter tier
silencer
>victor nerfer tier
inhibitor
>victor pesterer tier
crippling headshot
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>>569530028
>Cheat mods
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>>569531352
I wish I had a handy list like this for every hero in the game
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>>569531051
>>569531352
It's gun Victor, though
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>>569530717
mvp is done off of points the game gives for various shit like damage done, creep score, base damage, etc.
Your most common ranking is 1st(mvp), and your average is a little higher than 6th.
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>>569531484
lots of youtubers have shit like this.
probably some images on leddit too.
did you try googling?
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>>569530461
I feel really bad for Apollo, it was the same thing with Victor when they removed jumpstart cleanse
The nerfs were unnecessary
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>>569531572
gun victor is super squishy
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>>569531484
>He doesn't have dedicated "fuck this guy in particular" sections on his homebrew builds
ngmi
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>>569531572
>disarming hex, metal skin, escalating resilience, juggernaut, suppressor
stuff like that
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>>569530717
You only have 5.7? EWW, Low elo scum!!! Try being ascendant and above for once! I'm joking just shocked our stats are so similar
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I made a smurf. Do I have to throw my first three games so I don't get put in a higher rank?
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>>569532220
I am Ascendant but I'm learning all the heroes instead of focusing on climbing at the moment.
not sure why though because I know there's going to be another large item/hero overhaul in the next month or 2.
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>>569532289
hope you got a new computer and vpn too
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The sleeper victor counter is focus lens. Yea he could buy dispell but he wont 9/10 times and even if he does most are already tight on slots.good vic will wait until 50% hp to jumpstart, thats when you lens him
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>>569532220
a mere 5.2?
Im trans btw
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>>569531375
people will unironically post screenshots on the bad matchmaking thread using some of the most cheaty mods on the planet like the one which lets you see enemy unspent souls.
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>>569532554
Jokes on you buddy, my hero pool is more balanced AND consistent. Yes I play exclusively front lineish heroes... yes I cannot aim... for I am the ASCENDANT lion of europe
ABL, Dimov, Lystic wish they could be as good as me.
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WHY THE FUCK DOES STONE FORM HEAL
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>>569532762
nah dude its QoL
>KILL THIS DUDE HE'S SAVING FOR A T4
Anyone has access to this info so its fair
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>>569532432
why would I need those?
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>>569509025
why does she have white people pubes?
>>569515148
Agreed. The game should be balanced so that I can always buy L>R
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...fuck niggers!
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I am so fucking tired, this game I gave up 15 minutes in, was just farming jungle and ignoring everyone
You play enough games in shitlow and you start recognizing completely unsolvable games
And teammates were confused why I stopped giving a fuck
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>>569533563
AIIIEEEE!!
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>>569532863
You caught me. I farm mvp by playing with my pisslow friends but we can't win games because they are too heavy to carry.
Silver needs buffs.
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>>569533563
MINA YOU CAN'T SAY THAT
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>>569533164
cuz they use those to calibrate alt rankings
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Can we pass all the hate doorman got onto this bitch for like a couple of months. I need her to have a closed casket funeral.
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Best shitlow loss I've ever had.
> Bebop on my lane against Silver and Warden
> Bebop runs in like an idiot trying to melee them, dies immediately before I can even get to him
> Screams at me over the mic how useless I am
> Demands a lane switch, and when no one gives it to him he runs to the other side of the map and is generally useless
> My team is getting demolished and I'm the only one doing objective damage, skip two pointless urn brools we had no chance at winning anyway and take all three of their walkers
> Bebop fucking fuming in chat about how I refuse to help him 2v6 the urn
> Finally he goes AFK
> See that one of the people on the other team has a TADC name and drop spoilers for the final episode in chat
> Bebop fucking shrieks at me that he was going to see it tonight and I ruined it for him
> Free leave at 40 minutes
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>>569533738
Ivy has the pass. As Queen of Deadlock she can do whatever she wants.
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>>569533738
>janky projected stun that is more often than not just used to iframe, something other heroes have a dishonest version of
>kudzu can't be stacked on one another like paradox nades or lightning balls
>tether bonus gets halved if she's lot explicitly pocketing someone and even loses fleetfoot passive
>air drop is strong but again super projected
>completely hard countered by a casual counterspell
>shit gun scaling
>spirit scaling already nerfed
>healing already nerfed
she's unironically a balanced high B tier.
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>>569534081
>she's unironically a balanced high B tier.
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people were saying that Infernus is easy as fuck??????
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>>569533738
She's our queen and we will only praise her.
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>>569533939
i doubt someone has gone this whole time without it getting spoiled already, so big larp.
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>>569520398
Who cares what they call you, they're deadlock players
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>>569534040
wtf is that body style
i hate yts thank god they're
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>>569533939
I feel a little bad for the autistic spergs getting spoiled because its not their fault the creator went full retard and released a YouTube cartoon in theaters 2 weeks ahead of schedule so there would be ample time for spoilers.
On the other hand, lol. Lmao.
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>>569533563
rem said that
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>>569533939
>TADC name and drop spoilers for the final episode in chat
Based but you can rest assured you just spoiled something that was dogshit anyway
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>>569531352
>silencer
But silencer has 10 seconds CD, you are not living for 10 seconds when you see this guy
>inhibitor
You need to land like what 3-5 shots to proc it? And do what next? You deal no damage and 30% for him is nothing
>crippling headshot
seems like a nothingburger item by itself
btw all these are 6.4k

>>569532157
>disarming hex, metal skin, escalating resilience, juggernaut, suppressor
and deal 30 damage per shot
shit game
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>>569535295
this is assuming you're playing a hypercarry like seven or wraith. if you buy those items on a normal character yeah you'll still lose
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>Just turn into the green counterman that does no damage because your Abrams died a dozen times in lane
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>>569488812
The urn sucks no matter what and you are correct, the devs play favorites with balance. Haze, Mina, Celeste, Wraith, Victor, all of them are always OP. Graves goes between being OP and bad, and they want to force her to be OP, despite the fact that everyone hates her from a conceptual gameplay standpoint.
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>>569536203
You forgot Dynamo, Seven, and Wraith as always OP characters
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>>569536480
Dynamo was bad for months in the long long ago
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>>569536480
Dynamo was mediocre for a while, I still don't see him picked as often now with the new urn since his ult is one and done on the point, meanwhile everyone else can continue to throw down massive AoE slop fields.

I think he's good still but not OP due to the urn being the only thing that matters.

I did say Wraith, and I don't know if Seven is actually OP or if he simply is a pub stomper.
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>>569516326
bro what's wrong you don't like Celeste being even more broken than she already is?
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>>569533738
what's wrong with her?
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>>569493247
Black king bar was a mistake of an item.
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>>569530258
you forget about the autism x-factor where maybe the top players of a character just really like playing them and would do way better with someone else, artificially inflating how strong the character looks
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>>569537117
Her entire kit.
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1 hour until Geoff announces Sex With Ivy
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what does more competitive do?
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>>569537636
I don't see valve ever announcing their games like that
Have they done it in the past?
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>>569537639
Puts more smurfs on the enemy team
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>>569537639
Tries to pair you with other idiots who also toggled it on (does nothing)
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>>569537639
make your games more toxic
the 0/16 feeders on your team now scream into their mics about how its your fault they are losing
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>>569537639
It's placebo
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>>569537737
Merely shitposting, last time Gayben participated in a 3rd party conference was to announce Portal 2 on PS3 I think.
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Giga chad new item idea: Curse of Thorns

Curse yourself, but during the debuff 100% of all damage taken is returned as pure damage. Would make AoE slop have an actual downside
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Gaben walks onstage to announce the latest urnslop they've designed (urn initiates a 6v6 rape. The winner of the urn is whoever rapes the most)
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>urn is for comebacks
how did this meme start
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>>569538278
this would literally counter everything.
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Someone post Rem pointing to the clock, PLEASE
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>>569537639
Reduces your potential matchmaking pool by forcing you onto teams with other people who picked it. This results in shittier games!
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>>569538569
uhhhh it slows you down too
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Urn is the worst "win more" mechanic ever
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>>569537117
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>>569537639
It makes your team saltier
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I'M STILL STANDING.
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I swear mid eternus are the most egotistical shitters imaginable thinking theyre gods own gift to their team while being retarded and tilting on anything and anybody that they dont agree with without a clue about anything...and 9 times out of 10 theyre british, with 51.5% winrate getting matched into high asc games
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>60% winrate S+ tier character
>But your team's graves is gonna be this
Good luck!
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Bomb Bebops are basically walking elo points
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veil walker and shadow weave is starting to become core on all my builds...
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>>569523193
Mid air melees and mantle slides are fine, it's all the other stupid shit like IAD and corner boosting that should be removed.
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>>569524931
>Make nothing but dog shit changes to the game after adding in some of the most obnoxious heroes possible (Graves, Apollo, Celeste, Rem, Silver)
>Continue to force the most boring objective in just about any video game ever, the urn
>Continue to ignore massive problem characters like Victor and Graves
>Wtf why is the playercount dropping??
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>>569538703
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>>569538278
Crown of Thorns
active item
cooldown on toggle, maybe 5s
Return Fire with maybe 75% of damage returned
You take constant true damage while active, damage slowly ramps up to prevent you from just forever being a tank monster
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>>569538948
>never stops holding w
nonononono lashsissies...
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>>569538515
from the developer
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WOWIE ZOWIE I WONDER WHO WON THIS GAME
COULD IT BE THE TEAM THAT GOT TO FEED ON SOME RETARDED DUO IN LANE AND SNOWBALL? NOOOOO IT COULDN'T BE....
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>>569539238
Please
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>>569537737
hl1 and 2 were revealed at e3 I think.
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>>569539375
>35 minute game to win with that lead
those matches are just humiliation rituals personally generated by yoshi himself
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>>569539375
thats literally every game and im trying to figure out why every single game every one has one or two people who just feed its not that they're shit at the game its like they're completely inept its different from other games like say overwatch when your dps goes 8 and 10 and is shit no in this game someone goes 0 and 10 before 12 minutes and continues doing that its so fucking astounding ive never seen shittier players than those who play this game
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>>569537449
Im not forgetting about the autism, im selecting for it. Its not artificially inflating because each hero is equally exposed to the one tricks.

I think it helps distill the skill issue factor out of the power level equation. For example shiv has terrible stats normally but here shows you can just git gud and overcome that

Its not perfect, personally I think rem is probably underrated in this but if no one is leveraging his power then what can you do
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>>569539458
sorry
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>>569539218
I had a moment last night where a silver was 20k souls down but you still had to respect her ult with CC or run away, and she clawed her way back up through just killing.

The new heroes shows that Hotpoo needs to stop working on any PVP content. Getting hit by an Apollo ult in lane right when he gets it is the stupidest fucking thing, and I'm not even saying he's OP
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>>569539375
My favourite bit is how you can tell these games are over at 5
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>>569539458
>>569539560
oh there's also this one
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>>569539560
>>569539769
Thanks guys!!
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>>569538948
but erm hook makes him OP
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>>569539529
thats the one thing that was "nice" about mid urn. games consistently ended in 20-25 mins or even sub20 without leavers.
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>>569538948
bombbop is why the hero has low winrate.
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How do people even die 15+ times in a 30 minute game
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>>569539703
Apollo's ult still hits entirely around walls and corners.
I find it baffling that Hotpoo apparently made Sinclair and Vyper who are quite cool, and then made utter dogshit with Paige, Calico, Victor, Mina, and Holliday.
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>>569540084
how do you play bebop and win
don't say gun, gun is not honest
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>>569538948
>>569540084
Meleebop > bombbop
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>>569540229
>bombbop but you run at them mashing the melee button after you uppercut
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REMINDER: if you don't buy rebuttal:
YOU
ARE
THROWING!
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>>569540554
you dont need to melee the urn anymore unc rebuttal is situational again
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REMINDER: if you don't buy DMA cheats
YOU
ARE
THROWING!
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im so fucking tired of being the counter buy cuckslave every single game even if im playing a core/farmer, i want to buy the fun items too once in a while
>knockdown for seven
>slow hex for mina
>silence wave for geist
>decay for abrams
Im buying these on drifter while my paige rushes echo shard and refresher and shit like that
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Can someone watch my Rem while I go do some sinners real quick?
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>>569540229
That warden is a braindead boosted shitter.
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>>569541113
that's what happens when the devs design most of the cast like complete shit
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>>569540229
>meleebop
>no melee items
nice burgerboxing though.
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>>569541113
you don't need any of this if you're actually good at the game.
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Blast from the past...
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>>569541512
sexo with mina
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>>569541512
>mina gun
>easy to land
?
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>>569541120
>Mating presses
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>>569540220
there's some guy with a "hybrid" build in the top daily builds. try that one. I based my build off it.
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>>569541113
If thats the way you want to play why arent you picking the supportcuckslave characters in the first place? I would never buy all 4 of those actives on a carry because thats stupid.
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>>569541653
too dishonest. if there's any at all i'm not playing
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>>569541620
It's Abrams bro his hitbox is the size of the lane and he has the slowest dash speed in the game.
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>>569541620
It has one of the highest velocities in the game, and a high fire rate. It's one of the easiest guns in the game to use.
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>>569541113
if you're in a rank where your paige is going echo shard then you don't need to counter buy unless you're also dogshit.
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>>569541468
>>569541656
>i dont buy them

>seven/ginnis gets a full duration ult off
>abrams never dies
>mina never dies
>geist presses 4 on my warden and he dies instantly
thanks for your initiate tips
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>>569541620
>mina players can't aim
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>>569541827
It's also one of the like, 4 guns in the game that don't have perfect accuracy
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>>569541801
his kit is based mostly around orange damage though. 2 skills auto apply light melee. 3 skills are gun steroids. you can go glass cannon like the pros are doing with heavy orange, or just enough orange to make your gun not tickle.
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>>569541120
Here you can post this as a Youtube thumbnail now.
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>>569541948
Doesn't matter when you can get in as close as you need to and then teleport across the entire lane while disjointing all projectiles/targeted abilities.
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>>569541890
>out-dps them
>don't let him catch you
>ignore her (she's usless late game)
>kill her after to make it a trade
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>>569541890
>playing gun carry
>can't kill heroes with your gun
>initiate tips
skill issue. thanks for your seeker opinion.
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>>569541890
You only really need Knockdown. The rest have alternatives.
Loading up on supportslop on a carry is just as goofy as Rem going gun. Why dont you just play Rem
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>>569541120
Thanks for the onahole bro
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Why are we still in gunmeta. The playercount drop should make it very clear to yoshi that it kills the game.
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>>569542859
fat gay retard.
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>>569542859
>The natural decay between major updates is obviously because of *checks notes* the Gun Meta
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>>569543008
What's going on there
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>>569543134
IS THAT...?
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>>569543134
>3
HLX confirmed.
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open beta announcement in 9
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>>569543258
that's your d*scord k*tten.
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>>569512098
A bell curve hero that filters the midwits.
How Chad
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>>569541512
>play abrams
>LITERALLY can't fight over hafl the cast in lane if they have more than 3 braincells
Please, yoshi just give abrams some stupid bullshit like mini majestic leap esque winston jump instead of this gay ass fucking siphon.
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>>569543901
give him his fucking extra regen back on first upgrade of 3.
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>>569540220
>how do you add 2 + 2
>don't say 4, 4 is not honest
sadly honesty and winrate have negative correlation anon
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>>569543134
whats the source for this rare boho sighting?
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>>569544178
gamebanana
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>>569544178
gamebanana
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>>569544102
kill yoshi for his m1ggerly ways
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>>569531234
>there are no shitters in eternus
confirmed sub-archon eternusworshipper
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>>569542859
Maybe if this retard Yoshi didn't buff the early game gun items people would stop building them on every character
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>>569544013
200 hp is way bigger value than 1.5 regen.
>extra health is 210 hp for 800 souls
>extra regen is 2.5 regen, and 1.5 out of combat regen for 800 souls
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>Gabe Newell has arrived to the Dolby Theatre in Los Angeles
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>>569544013
T1 infernal resilience, give it back +1 extra regen but also keep the 200 max health
T2 infernal resilience, increase the lifesteal to 20% raw and actually make the lifesteal cleave
T3 charge should give a 15-20% damage amp instead of raw gun damage or raw weapon damage.
Make ult faster or replace siphon life with the old ult but remove the stun and just make it a quick leap so instead of a siphon man he jumps into peoples faces and forces a fight.
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>new Urn changes
Is Urn not-shit now? Or is it still forced brooling and AoEslop central?
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>>569541120
When the fuck are we getting a carry hero that can actually use the tunnels outside of dogshit Calico?
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>>569545271
>Is Urn not-shit now?
its KOTH-slop
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>>569542347
because rem is unplayably dog shit into any anti heal his gimmick disappears completely and he remains a shit hero. he is literally just bad dynamo.
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>>569545791
So it's still not fixed and still a shitty objective that forces shitty brainless brooling and basically changed ZERO of the issues people actually had with it? Aight, imma head out then.
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>>569545964
Pretty much, so much so that Paradox went from being a mix of gun/spirit into just being an Echo Shard bot spamming her 1
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>>569546204
Thanks anon for helping me not waste my time then. Have a good day.
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>>569544347
archmother voiceline
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>>569545271
it's better than it was but it's still annoying. the biggest problem I have with the KotH urn is that clearing the whole enemy team off of it can be annoying since sometimes the enemy gets a death timer so low that they respawn and zipline boost back into the urn area before the fight is even over which drags out the fighting. they should make it so that your respawn timer is longer if you die in the urn area so the teamfight doesn't last 100 years
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>>569545620
>dogshit Calico?
she's so bad
but she's so good
but she's so bad
but she's so fun
I might love playing as Callico bros, fuck
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>>569547457
I like her kit.
I like Ava.
She sounds cute when talking about Ava.
Give her a better outfit and make her hair more fluffy.
Yes I have jungle fever. I am not ashamed.
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why is haze so bad now
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>>569547794
people still try to play her like a 70k souls carry instead of an assassin.
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I don't know why the game took me from em5 down to here, but free win I guess
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What are the easiest characters?
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>>569548357
Carry: Infernus
Frontline: Moseph
Support: Kelvin/Ivy
Picks: Calico/Haze
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>>569548357
Seven
Victor
Graves
Haze
Abrams
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>>569548357
Objectively Seven is the easiest character.
Even moreso than the autoaim girl.
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Is Vindicta a good character? I like playing her, but I either
A. Melt them if I ONLY get headshots
or
B. Fucking die because im useless

It kinda seems like shes a throw pick cause she cant out damage the back line fighters half the time and just flies around doing nothing.
But i'm also bad at the game so thats why i'm asking
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>>569548357
green names used to be the "recommended for new players" heroes.
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>>569548521
kelvin yes but 90% of ivys I've seen make the character look dog ass and 10% make it look op
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>>569547390
I like the zip backs personally, adds tension
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>>569548936
Remove the snipers and add warden
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What's the best individual play when enemy team is deathballing mid with 20k+ in farm mid game?
>Do you just join it or farm and push side lanes and let them fight it out?
and what's the best team wide strategy if team is willing to listen?
>make 3-4 people defend and remaining push lanes?
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>>569550773
make sure your side waves aren't going to crash on your base in the next 30 seconds, then try to bait them out of position while trying to safely clear the troopers so they can't push.
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>>569548936
>mo & krill
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>come back after 5 months
>suddenly seeker
>matches are full of either completely clueless players or smurfs
Thanks Yoshi
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>>569551583
Here's sand in your eye!
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>>569551694
yeah now imagine this still happens in low eternus and free yourself
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>>569524223
congrats anon
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>>569548852
she's not that great. The one vinny tip I have is your 1 is your most important cooldown, only throw it if you know you can hit someone and that hitting them will be valuable for you or your team. It's a stronger ability than you think.
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>>569525273
lold at the image
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>people are starting to figure out the spirit paradox oneshot combo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>569552786
>NOOOO MY OP THING HAS BEEN DISCOVERED IT'S GONNA GET NERFED NOW FUUUUCKKKKKKKKKK
you are apart of the jewtuber eternus gatekeeping problem
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>>569552983
if they nerf it pick paradox is unironically dead
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>>569548852
She's really bad right now because everything she has is a worse version of what Talon has, up to and including the problem of getting shot out of the sky by gun carries. If you're playing Vindicta, you might as well play Talon instead.
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>>569541120
>NOOO REM THAT IS CRACK DONT SMOKE THAT
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>>569552786
the only burst damage paradox has scales from gun
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finally made it back into archon with pocket.
Lets hope I wont fall back down now i wanna get out of this emissary VI - Archon I hell
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I want to sex Mina
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>bad day at work
>lunch fell off plate
>no dd2 dlc announced
i better get some good matches or im killing yoshi
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>>569555552
time to kill yoshi!
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>>569554825
this but Celeste
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>"broooooo, _________ is SUCH a GOOD hero!1!1!!"
>look inside
>gun build
fvck this game
you could have a hero with zero abilities and someone somewhere would still suck it off by sheer virtue of Gunlockā„¢
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Just came back to the game after a break
I have no idea why I'm Initiate all of a sudden but the quality of games I've had have been utterly atrocious, I was Archon before
Genuinely the worst quality matches I've experienced in the game, skill levels are all over the place
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>>569554825
this but Abrams
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>>569556545
not all guns are created equal and not all skills are gun steroids.
retard.
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>>569556583
universal problem. the matchmaking has been HORRIBLE the past week in general for every rank.
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>>569556583
Bro how did you only manage 5 objective damage?
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>>569557434
he accidentally shot a guardian while diving them in lane.
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>>569557434
Because I was on split push cleanup duty for 80% of the match, the other 20% were disorganized brawls at the entrance to our base
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lmao summer game fest was shit
yall see some of those goon posts tho, not bad
anyway nerf graves
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>>569558871
how about nerf grave's panties texture
pedo game
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>>569558871
I have so many games to play that I just have so little interest in new games.
the only thing that could even cause me to purchase something at full price is hl3.
I'm happy that I like competitive games and I'm not in high school so I don't have to worry about playing the fotm shit to have something to talk to other kids about.
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>>569558871
Speaking of gooning, at least we're getting a bunch of goonbait from capcom and the new stellar blade.
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>>569559247
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>>569559247
>>569559247
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>Tell billy to stop over extending because we win when hes there and lose when hes dead
>Literally in our base he says, "guys I think we need to stick together"
I HAVE BEEN BEGGING YOU TO STOP GETTING CAUGHT OUT FOR THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME
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>>569523193
Mid air melees are fine.
Can we actually fix retarded "3000 hours practice to get consistently" shit like edge/corner boosting?



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