Summer Fest Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>569473064
Is Viscous a meme pick or is there some actual use to this misshapen creature?
no Valve announcement at SGF.
i love victor
>>569559936That shit was so ass. I can't believe they ended on 10 minutes of FFVII remake
Graves is the most obnoxious character to play against and her kit is inherently overpowered because of the autopush potential.Just using her ult for pushing forces at least 1 player from the enemy team to deal with the lane, which means they're not around for a potential teamfight or anything else.Then there's the free damage it gives in a teamfight with all the shit going on.Anyway, my point is that they should nerf Silver, that should fix it.
Sex with Venator
>>569559247ADVERTISER SAMA COVER YOUR EYE'S!!!
>>569559247>not gay pornyep, this is getting purged
>>569560535it was the most substantive even keighley has hosted yet
STOP STEALING MY SINNERS
>>569561726just kill himoh wait he's a tank now
we need shield tanks in deadlock.
how much is 1 bar of HP? Like 100 HP? I'm trying to figure out how the FUCK a DPS like Infernus consistenly gets like 6000 HP every fucking game despite not buying a SINGLE hp item
>>569560251C&C
>won a game when we were 40k+ souls behindnever give up bwos
>>569562462And other delusions of the deranged.
>>569560535compared to what we've had for the last ~5 years, that was a W show. the only thing that stood out to me as millenial dogshit was the among us segment.not saying every game interested me enough to want to play it either, but lots of good looking games coming up.
>>569562509>complaining about Infernus of all the heroes in the gamelmao!he has like 300 hp at max boons and where is your dispel magic?
paradox is strong
>>569559785He's, like, sort of a not support?He actually deals pretty good damage but not as much as the dedicated "damage characters". His abilities slow and knock the enemy about and can stop someone escaping but it's not hard CC like other "supports" have. The cube is good and saves life, worth buying echo shard for, but not enough to call him a healer.Finally the ball... I don't know I just use that to push aggressively and then roll away when they collapse on me.
>>569563149nigga I just started playing like a week agoim trying to figure out how the fuck infernus gets so tanky every game despite never buying an HP item
>>569563375Prob just farming better + no healcut
>don't get doorman>he's bannedtime to grief i guess
>>569563375green = hp.
>>569562462victor's aura displaced the entire enemy team out of a lane which is essentially a shield
>>569563693I know what HP is you asshole, and the one I was up against had 3 1/2 bars of HP and didnt have a SINGLE item that gave HP at all.>>569563472So is this game like Dota/League where levelling up gives passive stats? Is his passive shit he just gets a fuckton of HP compared to everyone else?
Who is a more of a brain dead hero, seven or warden?
>>569564149show me this 0 green item Infernus build that has 6 gorrillion hp.
>>569564214Warden.
Why does Lash have an open can of vegetables on his waist? Is this supposed to be a Popeye reference?
>>569564214i'm gonna get flak for saying this but seven isn't that easy to playhe's deceptively harder to play compared to other carries who are tankier or have escapes
>>569564493>stuns you without the option to miss>does massive aoe damage from a safe distance with every skill>gun steroidso hard.
>>569560946Calm down Mina!
>>569564276this guy had like 4 bars of HP, and the ONLY items that give him are 2 things for a total of 190 total HP.So how the fuck did he get 4 bars of HP in this build anon.Thats what i'm trying to figure out>inb4 green itemsTHE GREEN ITEMS DONT GIVE HIM ANY FUCKING HP OR BULLET RESIST, ITS SPIRIT POWER, SPIRIT REGEN, AND OUT OF COMBAT REGEN
>>569564493I'd be curious to hear why you believe that. Nothing against Seven as a non Seven player but he seems fairly idiot proof.
>play bebop>3 losses in a row>zero communication from team>one and only time theres communication its toxic bullshit>getting shitty lane partners that wont admit to playing their first game even when its obvious>zero game impact by mid game because opponents dont have room temp IQ and counter buy>realize too late apollo and leagues of other heroes can just negate sticky bombs for freeBebop needs a fucking rework holy shit he is bad
>>569564813>>569565215his stun takes 3.5 business days to arrive and can easily be dispelled so it's almost useless for keeping yourself arrivehe does indeed do a lot of aoe damage from a safe distance; that's literally the strength of the character, but he's almost always forced to do it from a distance because if seven gets caught out of position he's deadhe doesn't even have the "luxury" of vindicta's shitty flight to just float around in the backline, seven literally has zero defensive options and he's squishy so you need to position well in every fight or you'll easily get punished
what is the "mat_phong 0" of deadlock
apollo is such dogshit that even after maining him since release and trying so many things post-nerf, he feels god awful in pubsThere is zero reason to pick him outside of wanting to throw. Why this sandnigger retard bonobo yoshit so insistent on balancing off shitters?
>>569565109seeker-kun...
>>569565109>healbane (1600)>enchanter's emblem (1600)>dispel magic (3200)>spirit resistance (3200)>infuser (6400)all of these are greens. bonus: radiant regeneration (gives hp every time an ability is cast)you're very cute anon, never change
>>569562778to think the game will never get a hero that has a shield they hold in front of them is delusional. paradox and celeste already exist
>>569566134I KNOW ALL OF THEM ARE GREENS YOU FUCK I SAID THAT NONE OF THEM GIVE HP AND THE ONLY HP HE SHOULD HAVE IS 190 EXTRAI DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
>>569565215Of all the m1 carries he has maybe the least answer to being jumped on/caught out.Some carries have mobility spells(wraith,fern,mirage) some are inherently tanky or have built in sustain(warden, geist), even haze has an instant disable to give her a chance to run.Seven stun is super delayed and his only other defensive option is ult which is on a long ass cooldown.It's easy to say you should just position safer as him to make up for it and that's true but the fact that you have to position like that or risk getting eaten means you have less options than other carries that can splitpush or take fights while sidelaning with some level of confidence.
>>569566139ok overwatch-kun
>>569561382rent free
>>569566339read >>569563693 again
>>569566339items could do literally nothing and just being green gives you healthpurple items all give spirit powerorange items all give gun damage
>>569566339just quit. mobas aren't for everyone
>>569566339greens give you extra health retard
>>569560809graves is annoying to play against regardless of strength because without exaggeration, her entire kit plays itself. with the addition of ghouls spawning from her grasping hands, there is not a single part of her kit that requires her to do much outside of just pushing the button. even her gun is auto aim. its not fun playing against that even if she sucks
>>569566339Right, you see those three coloured bars at the bottom? The same colour as the items?When you buy an item of that colour they fill up and give you bonuses. Orange gives weapon damage, green gives HP and purple gives spirit power.So, buying green items gives HP from filling up the bar even if the item itself doesn't.
>>569566631>>569566587alright I did not know that ALL items in a category give things.That is interesting and now I need to rethink my builds cause I thought items only gave what they said they did.I apologize for my outburst, thank you anons.
>>569566339initiate-kun each boon gives hp. Assuming infernus had max scaling that's 830*(35*41)*1.54 hp.his build also heals from damage and heals from casting abilities. Good luck on improving anon, we believe in you
She's coming
>>569566963INFERNUS CAN HAVE 1 MILLION HP?!
>>569566036deadlock devs just do whatever they feel like even if it's boring or cancer or the worst possible choiceyour suggestions or opinions don't matter unless they're parallel to whatever they feel like doing if they gave a fuck about player opinions urn wouldn't exist and we'd be experimenting with a handful of other objectives already
>>569566751Those are investments, generally every character has the same three investments>Green = Max HP>Orange = Gun damage>Purple = Spirit damageSome characters have special scaling on stats. Like how haze's max clip size for her guns scales with spirit power.
>>569567328Vindicta and Grey Talon also have bullet damage scaling from spirit for some reason (stacks)
>>569565109stupid fucking retard stop being an angry retard and read some tooltips, or even the information that was spoonfed to you in this thread.
>>569567328magazine size*
>>569566339Anon you are either very dumb or baiting.Your HP goes up when you buy greens, did you not notice?
>>569567032she reminds me of conker
HOLY sex ssex sex plap plap plapsexsexsex plap plap holy plpa sex
graves nakadashi
>>569568225reminder: she has a FULLY MODELLED VAGINA
>youtuber made a slop short about how after you get rejuv and a soul lead you have to farm all the jungle and push out the sidelanes and take the urn and NEVER EVER push blue laneits fucking overtime for the randoms to throw all my matches now because ecelebs told them pushing blue is evil
>>569568471he's rightYork and Grenwich supremacyBroadway fags BTFO'd eternally
i played shiv for the first time todayit put me in an a3 lobby despite me being p4i got rapedi will not play shiv again
>>569568471how long does the rejuvenator last?
Victor should just not be able to buy Refresher, period.
haha york because its yellow get it?
>>569567032She will be once I get my hands on her
'eded to bloo
>>569569447I honestly believe the game would be better without refresher.
>>569566667who really cares though? her kit is also unique in that it's basically all completely preventable damage - shoot her summons and stand outside of her weapon's range. realistically obviously you can't exclusively engineer situations where she can't hurt you, she's gonna do damage to you eventually, but the fact that you can do anything at all to prevent damage immediately makes her more interactive and counterable than most of the cast so i never understood why people hate playing into her so much
>>569569506i dont get it what's a york
>>569570029or is it yellow because its york
>>569569269Taking farm / urn depending on timing can be good. But randomly splitting up in the average lobby is dangerous.Too many games I've flipped cause some retard decided he wanted to push yellow lane, and we can slam 4 people off a zipline into him and rape him and his respawn to death before his team notices and stops doing sinners machines.
how about instead of killing buildings the game ends at 30 minutes and whoever has the most sinners wins
>>569559247I don't get why every time I come back to this game it's always in some state that just isn't even remotely good. The matchmaking is worse than ever, balance is all over the place, the urn keeps getting changed and it's still not good. What the fuck is going on with this community man I feel like im the crazy one for noticing that the game ain't doin to hot.
>>569568225Why is everyone so horny for Geist? Even during nightshift they were lusting after her
Please dude i fucking hate Rem so much, i hate this stupid fucking rat on my team every time with more gold than everyone, holding egg at 25 minutes when we're losing, building 50 pillow items. The average rem player basically makes the game a 5x7
Ok this matchmaking is really fucking dumb, I JUST got to Ascendant and I'm being put into Eternus 3+ lobbies? Obviously I don't belong here and don't perform well, so why the fuck am I DEMOTING for losing in a lobby that I wasn't even supposed to be in?
>>569570882Nigga every thread is constant complaining about the state of the game, how high on your own farts do you have to be to think you're the only noooticer.
>>569570882their collecting data in an open alpha chudthe data is how much humiliation is required before a man becomes a trans mina main
>>569571205I won't even go on the normal mode because 1. I'm dumb and it's too complicated for what it is2. the matchmaking is so fucking awful that there's no point in giving it a try when it wastes so much of your time.
>>569569675I care. fighting bots auto pushing waves is boring and auto aim is annoying.
>>569570972Because she's a femme fatale, everybody loves a cold but hot woman
>>569570972im not
>>569569675Because she's a attention check character while not requiring that attention to play her. She's worse than McGinnis in the regard that McG actually needs to think about turret placement to make them not free souls. Graves can just dive + M1 and spam skulls or place her grave anywhere in lane or near a fight to get good value out of it. Her root is forgiving with grabbing people trying to jump over it unless you use stamina to double jump (and you get free ghouls out of it too). Skulls are literal throw and forget and require less and less thought with every update to them. Her gun is auto aim with a obnoxious debuff passive. And her tombstone actively punishes you for interacting with it because graves can parry guard, or you can just get unlucky with timing and have a ghoul spawn on top of you as you push her tomb. And you still have to worry about actually killing the graves herself. Even when Graves sucked she was fucking obnoxious, now she's obnoxious and she's actually good. She was particularly mecha hitler with melee urn because you were forced to push into all her bullshit.There's a reason why graves either has shit win rate or is next to seven and rarely is 'balanced'. She's a cheap character.
>>569569447just ended a game 4/13 on victor while maxxing ult first and rushing refresher 20 mins inI probably died almost 30 times that match and got brutally raped, but we won. Holy honest god victor
>>569569675by that logic everyones kit is preventable damage just leave nigga lmfao just break los
>>569571849>McG actually needs to think about turret placementLol. Lets not go crazy here, also her ghouls and skulls are free farm vs a bad graves.
>Vyper>looks like a cobraWhy is this?
spider hero when?
>>569572249my peanus weanus of course!!haha!!my peanus weanus!
>>569572138>Lol. Lets not go crazy hereAt least it's not on the same level. Turret build McG is much more of a souls feed than Skull/Ghoul Graves and it's not even close. If I want to not think and just drool over myself, Graves is not only easier, but I'll actually win games more often.>also her ghouls and skulls are free farm vs a bad graves.Below Archon sure, but even then below-archon players don't pay attention to graves summons.
allow allied rems to be attackable if they have a bag larger than 1k
>>569573476The bag donation strat will win Deadlock's first TI
>>569571849This nigga has never played graves before and it shows.
>Lose because we're down 20k and instead of actually playing smart and defending the base all my team throws themselves into the enemy teams loving arms over and over every time they respawn despite me desperately asking them not to do that
>once again a graves on my team not buying echo shardim not just a stupid little faggot retard right? it seems like a no-brainer itemhttps://litter.catbox.moe/gvjeq70tgmwv603v.jpg
>no update todaydead game
>play celeste>try really hard>hitting all my macros>loss after loss>go back to main>whatever build no effort>1 button enemy team dies>mvp>multi game win streak with me as carrywhy am I not allowed to play different characters?
>>569575167graves' bush is clean shaven
>>569575553celeste is hard to have game impact withyou can fart around and never die but the zone between feeding and being irrelevant is thin
Im gonna say it brosThe new urn is good maybe even greatThe nerf to the reward is especially goodIve been ratting more now during the first urn spawn because walker is almost just as valuable if your team doesnt completely bungle it and all die
>>569575728>dishevelled and sleep deprived virgin outcast totally shaves her pussy daily like a modern whore because uhhhh I’m a brainwashed kike who doesn’t like bush Fuck off *dubstep plays*
i love this trick
>>569575728>the necromancer goth chick is clean shavennyo, mina yes but gravesdirty little freak
Does anyone even build this besides Wraith?
Urn should reward the players capping it more than the leeches that don't.
>>569576394I hate being a rat but yeah I agree. Me and my buds just split push hard once urn spawns. Still works on Phantom.
>>569576686Venator
I think im at the point today where I kinda just throw matches when we're 0-2 and our walker is basically dead in street brawl and I cannot care less if that makes me a bitch since we can't surrender.
>>569576657smelly, unwashed, unshaven, hairy, cold
>>569576686Geist
>>569576686miragegeist
>30 minutes to get a flex slot>you're top farm on your team as m&k that isn't side laning or junglinguhhmm...
>>569576394I think the urn sucks for that exact reason, though. It doesn't do much for the team actually trying to cap it, since they're trading the urn and a few kills for a walker. If anything I think they should make it work like KOTH in TF2, where once you've planted it, the urn starts capping for the team that planted even if they aren't standing on the point, and the other team has to get on the point to flip it and start progressing their capture.
>>569577352It could use a bit of tweaking but I thinkits interesting how the first urn can be traded for a walkerBut the second and third urn need a bit more priorityHelps vary up the transition to midgame
how are people this fucking bad?
>>569577482Oh yeah the thing that's been tweaked from kingdom come needs EVEN MORE TWEAKING
>>569576615I love this trick too brother
>>569576686holiday likes charge items
>>569578353It's called matchmaking being so bad they're shoved into matches
Got cucked out of playing Rem (Rem main) and ran into a guy playing, and I shit you not, Melee Rem.Who does that? Like what even is your end goal here if every ability is secondary to beaning someone over the head with your heavy melee as a character that isn't really built for that? I've never been more confused in my life.
>>569578353got 3 games in a row in emmy sarry where the yellow laners were like that by 18 minuteskill me pete, how hard is it to just not throw yourself at the enemy when far behind on souls
>>569578747>rem main>doesn't play meleeGAWD rem
>>569578747from what i've seen, melee rem works at shitlow because visually his heavy melee charge up is unassuming and people aren't tuned into the charge sound
>>569571849alchemist hands typed this post
>>569578747>melee rembasedhttps://youtu.be/XcZPlQr-Zlg?si=h5y97GuqqR6InTGc&t=2404:00
Post ur cutest Rems
>>569578909I like my pillow
>>569578747rem players are just fucking retarded, there was some dipshit in here the other day that thought EE was proccing from his teammates damage bro it's insane.
>>569570972Safe horny hag
I just deleted the game again I think I hate losing because of some russian kids with dunning kruger
I feel like after a certain point there's literally too much shit on screen to keep track of since so much shit is going off. I mean oh my god even with some shit turned off it's still so easy to lose sight of just enemies.
id take victor and seven gaping my holes over a mcginis
>>569579552
>>569581203Kelvin will kill you for having sex with his bf
fuck this ice ape mayo monkey ginger faggot i hate him so much. picrel is my oc
>>569581881He seems super bad right now
>>569582228im a vin main. he ice walks up to me with the ice beam and traps me in the ice bubble
>>569580908>tattoos
FFFFFFFFFFFFATTEST Deadlock character in the gameFat FlyboyFlyboy my beloved
>>569582393>im a vin mainDeserved
>>569582475Hey uhhh I'm a fly. a fly boylook at me go
How can you pvp as someone who's not Geist?I don't understand, for example Paradox, she only has her bomb and carabine, if you miss those you're fucked.Geist for example can suck you dry 5 times in a row, you can't miss it, and her third has like a 2.6 second cooldown, and if everything is bad you can still swap health. What can possible the fucking Paradox do? Swap herself in the enemy crowd?
>>569573476I would fuck this plush every night
>>569582393>Kelvin builds an ice road 5 miles up to a flying vindicta just to bubble herThis is an extremely funny visual
>>569582708IN HEREI AM KING
>>569576686VinDICKta (holy smokes her gun is so powerful)
>>569582606Holy shit wait did someone mention flyboyI love flyboy we all love flyboy
>>569582606>>569582475I'm on board if despite the beefy proportions he's about the same size as Rem
>>569582934I don't think he has an official height at the momentso he could either be one of the tallest characters in the game, or he could be rem-sized; I don't think the original artist mentioned his size, but he is supposed to be pretty WIDEalso here are his abilities:Takeoff: Rocket boost vertically, damaging enemies around you.Aileron Roll: Unleash a short flurry of bullets around you and reload.Care Package: Call a package from the air that can damage enemies if it lands on enemies. The package contains a healing orb.Crash Landing: Rocket boost horizontally, dragging enemies along, and exploding if you hit a wall or the floor before the duration ends.
>>569582646Don't miss your abilities and click on them with your gun when you miss your abilities or they're on cooldown
>>569576686Viscous used to buy this before he was raped in an alleyway back in '26.
>>569578747>inb4 name is "BiteThePillow"
What's inside Rem's pillows?
>>569585720crack
>>569585720The last person to ask that
>>569585720an infinite amount of little helpers
>>569585720His own feathers
> Get a team of Holliday, Shiv, Venator, Dynamo and GT> I'm Geist> Other team has Silver, Seven, Graves, Drifter, Pocket and Abrams> I'm positive we're going to lose on teamcomp alone> Lose lane almost immediately, lose first urn and a walker at the same time> Their Pocket is a moron and their Graves has Arcane Surge, Kinetic Dash and Stamina Mastery all at the same time> Wipe them and take midboss, then take two walkers and both shrines before rejuvenator expires> Graves somehow still did 50k damage in 40 minutes despite half her item loadout being movement and having Toxic Bullets and Ricochet as her other two itemsWhy is Graves allowed to do this shit? There should be exactly zero characters who can do that much damage when half their items are stamina.
>>569586485They do lots of things
>Lash, Vindicta, and Grey Talon on enemy team.>I'm the only one to buy knockdown.Like cockwork.
>been watching night shift the past couple of weeks>start to like floormen>they spaz out due to the urn thing like pussies and ff>start to like melee creeps>they make their team icon a gay tranny flag for fag month>maybe I'll root for work in progress>they have an actual tranny on their teamIs there any NA teams which that is not full or crying bitches and or faggots? I really don't want to have to root for a Russian team.
>>569578373wait what, did they fix her ultimate and now you don't need a direct hit for it to work?
How can Paradox give head with a Lava lamp? I'd like to main her but I need to know this before I start
Urn rollercoaster got me reinstalling OW.Anran is pretty fun. Why can't we have a hero like her in deadlock?
>>569587205it's a helmet
>>569587070Max level swap makes it aoe.
I have just accepted that this game will never be balanced because of its fucked up RPG-esque mechanics that make it nigh-impossible to properly balance the gamelike yeah there are characters that are clearly better than others, but that's about as far as it goes in terms of balancing. the horrid balancing just comes from itemization making balancing even more nightmarish to wrangle into something tolerable or even fun
Urn rollercoaster got me reinstalling Super Mario 64 (Ghostship port for Linux).Mario is pretty fun. Why can't we have a hero like him in Deadlock?
>>569559785Viscous is a tryhard pick dude... shits out tons of damage while having the best saves in the game.
>>569582393>vin main>white envy
Anything that procs on bullets should also proc on melees, including lifesteal.
>>569569675>shootYou literally just need to stand still for a moment and light melee. That kills like 10 skulls in one swipe.If you're doing movement shit light melees kill 2-3 skulls at most.
how are we feeling about this
>>569588649>lash is less fair than wraith.>dynamo more fair than billy>celeste more fair than sinclair
>>569588649Do people really not like mcginnis? she's not that hard to counter she has non existant close combat capability just fucking get in her face and shoot her?
>>569588649...
>>569568471Why not push blue or have it pushed?
>>569589089>places down a 6 gorillion hp per second healing radiuswhat now bitch?
>>569588649Sinclair is secretly busted.
>>569589305>25 health regen with 0.3x spirit scaling is "6 gorillion"
>>569588649McGinnis honestly isn't overtuned, if anything she's undertuned now. Her turrets are hard countered by anyone with a big AOE (Victor, Seven, Paradox, Geist, Dynamo, Celeste and Rem to a lesser extent) and her ult is hard countered by AOE interrupts (Seven, Paige, Lash, Sinclair) and by anyone who can simply teleport to her (Drifter, Yamato) or who doesn't spend time on the ground (GT, Vindicta, Kelvin, Mina). The only thing that made her overpowered was the AOE urn brool meta which is now gone.
I keep getting top damage with characters that shouldn't be getting top damage.maybe I should just play m1 to boost my rank up a bit.
>>569588649dynamo is not overtuned. he is pretty bad.so just based on that I'll say the rest of your chart is inaccurate.
>>569589591>places down 4 turrets dealing 7 gajillion spirit damage per second with a range of 8 toribiliionwhat now pussy?
>>569589874>kills you instantly and blows up all your turrets with map wide aoe slopowned
>>569590150man fuck you victor
there are only 5 heroes you can play currently if you want to have an impact on the outcome of the match.and their win rates are so far above the rest that it's indisputable.
>>569590254>if you want to have an outcome on the matchwhat is this jewtuber lingo? I don't give a flying fuck about winratesif I like the character I play as the character, and that's the end of it
>you can shoot through the sewer/subway grating in the midboss siderooms>you can shoot cockroaches in the sewer/subway for 1 soul eachnever seen anyone interact with either of these
>>569590586But what if the character you liked playing as, ALSO won and carried games instead of getting stomped or carried? You ever think about that?
Learning new heroes FUCKING sucks in this game. You get one, maybe two matches, in a lower elo and then you get to fumble your way through on your main's elo. This was the first match I played on Wraith since april, and it makes me want to become a permanent one trick. Just put us down a few ranks until we get an even winrate, it's not like I'm going to fucking dominate in oracle on a hero I can barely pilot better than an alchemist wraith main. How do other mobas handle this?
>>569589089yea? she's probably the least liked hero in the entire game for the majority of the game's lifetime, kept in check only by being pretty bad for most of it
>>569590760I don't agree with the idea that playing as the strongest characters just makes you stomp immune or puts you in the "carry my game" queue or some shit, that's sillyyou can only really get closer to being "stomp immune" by just playing the game some more, and learning even more about the moba mechanics
>>569590989>inb4 just play street brawlIf pointing my gun and throwing cards were the part I struggled with, that might be good advice.
RAHHHHHHH
>>569591135all that paradox onetricking really fucking paid off with this new urn meta shit huhcongrats paradox schizo, you won. you fucking won and you are REAPING the fruits of your labor. Well done
>>569591193you will stand in the circles and you will be happy
>>5695886491. Wraith should not be fairer than lash. Lash has so much counterplay that all the bitching seems unwarranted2. Get that fucking little bird chud NIGGER out of high fairness. Rem is a nigger character and has only become more niggardly with his full team heal soft-ult.3.Silver feels middle of the pact in fairness desu.4.Dynamo should be lower in fairness5.Idk how pocket isn't in containment zone, ult build is retard bullshit.
>>569587813>Mario is pretty fun. Why can't we have a hero like him in Deadlock?i'm still waiting for pippin the gnome
>>569588649>>569589089>>569589617Yeah McGinnis feels pretty dogshit right now. Turrets do nothing, ult has a very narrow range and does little without heavy investment. Right now it seems you gotta heal and wallmaxx if you want to play the fat diesel dyke.
>>569587813Holliday is kind of like Mario
>>569588649If I see one more person call pocket hard I'm gonna suffer a stroke. What's even the argument for him being hard?
>>569591758you have to heckin choose whether to press cloak teleport or not for le epic heckin mind tricks!
I know that the meme resistances the comeback urn gives you are enough to matter in high elo but current urn is just a win more mechanic in shitlow decided by what team has the AOE niggers of choice
>>569591645Mario doesn't need some virgin-ass bounce-pads, or rely on barrels, or guns to kill his enemieshe uses his fists, and jumps high as fuck, and can use his ass, legs and gravity as a weapon. and can also move at lightspeed while jumping backwards theoretically.okay nta but the more I think about it, the more Mario seems like an eldritch horror capable of many incomprehensible things, rather than a real, normal human being
>tfw duo lied end it all i fucking hate soloq
>>569590254I've had games where people had all 5 meta characters and they still lost to two supports, paradox, abrams, and i think it was a warden.
>>569591978>Mario doesn't need some virgin-ass bounce-pads, or rely on barrels, or guns to kill his enemiesO RLY?
>>569591758he has low HPthat's the only reason people say pocket is hard to play
>Everyone complaining about the fast as fuck infernus>No one gets capacitor or hex>They just keep waiting until the loss for a miracle
For some reason I never get to be on the Mother's side.
>>569592575She saw what you did to the crotch area of her statue
how do you play Mirage? every time I give him a try I do zero damage the whole game
>>569592575I can't even really think of side differences other than one side has a better sniper spot left late Guardian (billboard blocking vs a little room)
>>569592223I said he doesn't need it, not that he wouldn't use oneagain this is the same deranged athletic maniac that grabbed some 10x his size fuckass lizard's tail, and was able to successfully throw him like a water balloon off the fucking platform and into a spiky bombmario doing the most insane shit while having the strength to back it up, while also being very ruthless, is a subtle, yet extremely consistent character trait of his across all of his games
>>569592436Most shitlow games can be carried by (You) if you buy a counter item for their problem character.
>>569590586why did you misquote me to get mad at something that wasn't said?
>>569592869but you did say that
>>569592204you can still play the meta carry and fail to carry. you impacted the outcome of the match by being bad.also nobody cares about seeker matches.
I don't get why you retards don't want an FF. The inbreds going 0/11 in blue lane by minute 15 are not suddenly going to make a game winning play 20 minutes later
what do you do as shiv if you're behind early? he can't farm for shit
>>569593025you just lose that's why he has one of the lowest wrs in the game lmfao
>>569592989Archon 6 actually, and I was on the winning team.I was playing Lash (:
>>569592989>you can still play the meta carry and fail to carry. you impacted the outcome of the match by being bad.yeah but this applies to all heroes good or bad, not just the carries
>>569592938do you work for CNN or the BBC? clipping half of the sentence to create a narrative for you to talk about?
>>569593117He fuckin quoted your own text thoughalso>>>/pol/
>>569592436>hitting infernus with the capacitor projectileI'm too shit at this geimu tbqh
>>569593073welp, thought i was just bad. really feels like they could even out the "low winrate but OP in the right hands" by just improving his farm, giving him 3 stam, and nerfing the shit out of the shotgun troonment or removing it entirely and maybe nerfing his 3
>>569593008They had a crazy comeback 127 matches ago and have been chasing that ever since (every other match before and after was decided by minute 15)
>>569565109You should mouse over those three coloured bars in the bottom left and figure out what they mean
>enemy vindicta hitting every single shot>possibly the most accurate vindicta ive ever seen in my life, yet this is an initiate match because my elo sunk that low from my losses on characters im shit on>literally does not miss once and tracks me behind cover visibly because of bullet trails>still loses and goes 3/9 because you can't buy game senseI swear this bitch was cheatin
>>569593008Please please PLEASE go back to League, I am begging you
>>569588649My feeling is that Valve genuinely needs to lock down the API that these faggot websites use to track winrates and ranks and shit. People are too stupid to have access to this information. It's a closed test, keep the data internal.
>>569559247Whats a good Vindicta build, I cant find a eternus 6 streamer who plays her
>>569593102no if you're not playing a meta carry your performance means literally nothing.
>>569593008They could add FF tomorrow and faggots would not vote yes>t. plays cs and siege and faggots REFUSE to surrender no matter what
>>569593264the only time shiv feels op is when he 1v6 in a small hallway, but that only happens if the enemy is retarded enough to group up and try to fight him there
>>569593025You perma roam, and switch to maxing knives first hoping to draw pressure to one side of the map. Hopefully your teammates push the walker on the opposite side of the map.
>>569593872Cause she is pretty bad in Eternus. Spirit if you can hit your ult. Generic gun + Long Range if you can't. Dispel Magic and Counterspell pretty much every game.
I'm taking Dispel Magic out of my 'optional' section and just including it in all of my builds as a baseline. this shit is way too OP.
>>569594383You should always being getting one of the following each game: Dispel Magic, Metal Skin, and Counterspell. You're throwing if you're not.
>>569592660What are you building, and how do you play him?
I have fallen from Phantom 6 to Oracle 2 since the urn "experiment" began and I can't climb back up.Every game feels like a stomp and the latest urn iteration doesn't feel like it solved the underlying issue, which is to say that Victor/Lash/Graves always wins. But I don't want to play them, so here I am.
>>569594537>I don't play the meta! I don't counter pick! I am a one trick and if my one trick isn't good then I DON'T WIN!
>>569594663It's true.
>>569593008actually depends. i've had games where lash was feeding a lot early but he had 1-2 good ults late which won us the game
>>569594537so who is this apparently dogshit character you play
>>569594839Bebop.
>>5695945377 main herei've climbed from oracle 1 to phantom 2 since the changes. i love how the retarded enemies just walk into the BROOL ZONE and get evaporated
>>569594914The ult is good for urn brools and you can hook people out of the circle now
>>569594914>boosted nigger getting a reality checkLMAO
>>569594963I just want to bomb people
>>569594949theres literally so much cover in the urn zone bebop ult is dogshit
>>569594949>Go in air to ult>Lash pulls me out of ult and kills me>Go down in the trenches to contest>Victor with refresher stuns and kills me>Go take cover>Graves minions auto path towards me and make sure I can't stay OR escapeHm yes lots of potential for counterplay. I am enjoying, of course!
>counter items are mostly purple>none of my spirit character teammates ever builds them and just go full damage
So how's the game?Feel like it's gonna release any time soon?
>>569595673nope
I LOST 10000 DOLLARS IN THE MARKET AND THEN LOST 6 GAMES IN DEADLOCK AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
>>569595585>hook graves>presses m1 on you>800 skulls swarm from across the universe to slam fuck your robobussy wide open
>>569595778Oh yeah, my favorite>Hook Graves cause she's out of position>She instakills me with line and a million skulls>Kills my team too while she's sliding around m1ingPretty cool, pretty cool.
>>569593245Most infernus' do the retarded "victory lap" to spread damage out. Just wait for that and zap them. Or Aimbot it with Hex
>>569595756Get fucked
>>569593008Dota 2 and Deadlock have good comeback mechanics, unlike League because Morello unironically hated losing his snowball champs momentum
>>569595928>team has wraith and haze>neither rush ricochet completely invalidate the gravesAwesome, thanks guys. Good thing Wraith bought boundless AND surge of power for her cards and her only gun items were recharging rush and opening rounds without even hitting 4.8k on gun.
>>569596374>implying a wraith or haze will even show up to an urn fight
I am once again asking to revert the changes to Graves. Just make her work the way she did before the 05/22 patch. Nobody complained about her and she was fun with spirit and gun both being equally pretty decent but not OP. Please god just rewind a few weeks.
>>569594914n00b
>>569597546ok? rem could do this if his team was up 50k souls
What do I do against Shiv? A good one will just dash around resetting his HP and slowing hex doesnt seem to matter
I really feel like the comaback urn should be delivered at the losing team's jungle. Its just so hard to actually get the urn there and have a decent fight when you're behind after like 20 minutes. Its basically a free urn for the enemy team. Also it feels like if you're like 15k behind the game is borderline unwinnable now because the buffs the urn grant you are not really going to make up for the difference in power so you'll never get to actually deliver it
>>569597712BLEED
>>569593008Look you fucking faggot, nobody is saying that every single game is winnable at all timesWe've all played unwinnable games in the past and we're all going to play them in the futureThe reason a surrender button is hot dogshit is twofoldOne, (you) are incapable of determining when a game is winnable or not, because you're an easily demoralized cocksucker, which we know for a fact because you're in this thread RIGHT NOW asking for the ability to give up so you can go tilt in the next match before asking to give that one up tooTwo, the moment there is a surrender button, demoralization becomes a far more valid strategyGames of league aren't "lost" in the traditional sense where a team fights until victory is had, they're lost in the sense that you just break the enemy's spirit and they give upDeadlock is already a game where I can lose because my team are incompetentI don't also want it to be a game where I can lose because my team gets sadFuck off
>>569593008gg worthless team ff at 10
>>569597712KNIVES OUT
>>569597907>at 10>not at 2 minutes when your lane partner diesyou underestimate how buckbroken FFags are
>>569597712If he doesn't fall behind early, all you can do is get dispel and hope things work out.
>>569596149name a single good deadlock comeback mechanic.
>>569597670was I up 50k? was that a big team fight between me and the Billy? did I cast bomb?anyways I'm not the one tanking my ranking by playing like shit, n00b.
>>569597767I do not want to be forced to continue playing a game with a 2/20/5 Bebop running it down and wasting my time.>But I want to stomp idiots for 50 minutes!Fuck off, you aren't slick.
>>569598026bonus souls on kills when trailing and longer respawn timers based on networth outliers.
>>569598147>I would only quit when my game is really really definitely absolutely lost! I promise! I'd never crash out on my lane partner 3 minutes in!You are a weak willed faggot and everybody knows itI'm not interested in having my games end before late-game kicks in because you're too dickless to play the hand you were dealt
>>569597767Your teammates already get sad when they see the 0/10 Shiv dash into the enemy team retard. The ones feeding are already demoralizing the team by being completely worthless in every interaction. Are you telling me you try harder when you see the chucklefucks throw every opportunity to win? It's already a game where you lose because the team gets sad, but the players should be able to vote on whether they get their time wasted. If every player votes yes what is the issue?
>>569598063>>569597546you're up 5k, you pull him out of a fight he was already losing and take him into a place where if he was not so massively behind he'd rape you to death so far away from your team.Post your ign if you're so good.n00b
>>569598243>I'm not interested in having my games end before late-game kicks in>Don't end guys! I want to get full build first lol :)You aren't slick, you're pathetic. Find another way to stroke your ego.
>>569597712I'm clearly a dogshit shiv because no matter what I do I get fuck all out of his 3 and just melt in fights even with greensIs everyone just maxing it first or what
im unable to play victor nowadays because it makes me go ungabungahe used to be the character i'd play when i wanted easy wins but now its gravesim sorry victor, i cant draw you, i cant play you, im just a big fat piece of shit poser...
>>569598405The irony is even now you can only imagine yourself getting raped by the enemyYou have no mind for your actual team who have to suffer your pathetic weak-willed bullshit
Cooldown reduction is a meme on graves>only 2 skills benfit from it since it doesn't effect the passive and it only gives you death fatser for skullsYou're fucking yourself over if you buy it early or midgame on a character that already does 15% less damage
>>569568225
>>569598026Unironically? Urn right now.
>>569598515Hey fuckhead, I enjoy a challenge. If the enemy team have ten times the deaths that we do and they want to ff, fucking let them. I'd rather go next and get a real fucking match than jack off for an hour, because I don't play games to pad my fucking stats and brag.
>>569598675>I enjoy a challengeYou are literally, at this very moment, advocating for a feature that would mean you wouldn't have to play games you aren't winningYou are fooling nobody who isn't already mindbroken
>>569598641urn is dogshit? the game snowballs so hard that enemies are 200k vs 250k at 20 mins. comeback urn only gives your team 36k worth of defensive items so you still get utterly raped if you do "comeback" urn and the 20% less souls for winning team doesn't even matter since they get all the souls from killing your team
>>569597767>Two, the moment there is a surrender button, demoralization becomes a far more valid strategy>Games of league aren't "lost" in the traditional sense where a team fights until victory is had, they're lost in the sense that you just break the enemy's spirit and they give upSpoken like someone who never played league>muh team sadNigger i had a venator in one of my games just go afk while typing in chat "let them end" after going 1/11, retards will be retards regardless of the existence of an FF button, it's merely a QoL feature
>>569598806Read, you illiterate nigger.
if the game is going to 70k souls what do you sell arcane surge for on abrams?I'm thinking stam mastery.
>>569598839>Spoken like someone who never played leaguewhatever you say>AI is unreliable!cope
>>569599015Magic Carpet
>>569599018>the guy advocating for players to be trapped in unwinable matches is an unironic AI slop enjoyerPoetic
>>569599015Arcane Surge should combine with Stam Mastery to build into a T4. Kinetic Dash too.
>>569599018ok but how many of those are surrendering in the last 10 seconds of the match when they're pushing your throne and you're all dead though?I'm not a FF enthusiast but you need to pick better data to support your point.
im suprised sinclair doesn't have a 25% wr this nigga worthless character does NOTHGIN at every stage of the game
>>569599018>He admits to talking out of his ass
>>569599015At that point mobility doesn't matter for abrams. Just get every t4, phantom strike in and scourge + siphon spam them if you're spirit.
>>569599276He has multiple unfixed bugs that have been a thing for months now
>>569599192hey, that's pretty good!give me more Enduring Speed upgrades too while you're at it
>>569591978>dude le abc xddd
13 years of Dota taught me two thingsIf you think your match is unwinnable, you're wrongIf you think your match is unlosable, you're really, really wrongI understand why people who play MOBAs with surrender features don't learn these lessonsBig comebacks don't happen in games with a surrender feature, because the whole point of a big comeback is that it's unexpected, and surrender features end those games before comebacks can take placeThe problem with a surrender feature is that the intended purpose is to end games that are a foregone conclusion, but what it actually does is end games that APPEAR to be a foregone conclusionThis makes it so that one of the losing conditions of a game is simply the appearance of imminent defeat, which is far easier to orchestrate than actual imminent defeatI suspect the people who want a surrender feature the most are the ones least likely to use it responsiblyThe ones who actually could use it responsibly would almost never invoke it
>>569599810Instead of the Juggernaut passive and further increased health regen, it gives more slow resist, more speed, even more sprint speed, and maybe increased slide distance.
>>569600008I had a game where we were like 60k down. Seven gets pretty cocky and think he can finish unprotected throne alone while my team is brawling elsewhere.I kill him THREE TIMES IN A ROW. We won that game. God they were so fucking pissed, it felt like injecting crack directly to my neurons.
>Play soloq>Win a bunch of matches>Play with my friends>Go on a six game loss streakI'm not making a smurf because i'm not a faggot but man this sucks
>>569597712He is the bristleback of this game, do not fucking follow him, do not chase him even if low, do not get into corridors or small spaces. If you are a m1 hero your job is to kill him, if you are a frontliner/spirit burst IGNORE HIM
>>569600121I just want my emissary friends to play with ascendants. I think I am making one and just picking Holliday or something, like trying to have the least impact possible.
>>569600008>>569600103>I had a big comeback once so we should never surrender despite every other obviously lost game resulting in a loss!The high of a comeback win isn't worth it anymore. Haven't you all played games for most of your life by now? The hours I have lost far being held hostage in a losing game far outweigh any high of a comeback win at this point. Why not just let the players decide? If majority vote there should be no issue
>Get the advantage early-to-mid game>Entire team decides to constantly greed for kills>Repeatedly tell them to pull out of bad fights>They never listen, keep repeating the same mistake>End up losing to the biggest shitter niggersI don't know what's worse, this, or teammates that sit in jungle and never group for pushes, ganks, or fights.
>>569600398Because 1, I dont want retards like you to hold my game hostage because you are having a hissy fit, and 2 I play videogames to waste time. I want you to fuck off from my videogame please.
>>569600008I wish my game that had a 0/20 Abrams and 0/11 Wraith was surrenderable
>>569600575I'm running it down because of faggots like you
How come more characters don't build headhunter? Most characters have very accurate guns yet the main character I see running it is Lash
>>569600198That actually makes sense.>has a stacking resist shred>has a stacking damage ability the more you hit them with it (knives)>has rage>bloodletting is shiv's version of his passiveThe difference is Bristleback does not have an execute.
everyone advocating for an ff button is emissary and below btw
>>569600575>I play videogames to waste time.Not to have fun? Then you shouldn't give a shit how those games end.
>>569600398There's also the fact that you owe a duty to your teamFighting games are fine with surrenders, for example, because you're not negatively impacting anybody but yourself
>>569600745Please do I dont mind or care since the end result was gonna be the same regardless with or without surrender button. Not playing the game you are voluntary queuing for on a friday night
>>569600575>I play video games to waste timeMost other people play to have fun anon. Being stuck in a losing game with everyone flaming each other isn't fun.
>>569600902
>>569600895This also implies that your team owes a duty to you, which very clearly isn't the fucking case.
>>569600968Nigga you are the one threatening with running down mid but I am the one sperging?
>>569600895Well typically a surrender vote implies that the team is ok with surrendering and a majority voted, thus removing any "duty" I owe to randoms I was forced to queue up with
>>569601051Yes
>>569601009They do, actuallyWe are bound in memes by the shitty matchmakerWe fight to the death
I hate how many Overwatch and Riot tourists this game has.
>>569600784bebop builds headhunter
>>569601135LeagueGODS are the only one who know how to macro
>>569600867I wouldn't be advocating for FF if the matchmaking wasn't complete and utter dogshit. Every game is stomp or be stomped. You know when you're in a be stomped game so why not just cut the middleman?
>>569601135Okay but here's a tricky questionWho would you rather purge the riot/blizztards or the trannies
I throw bells. It's really that simple. I get the contact damage, mystic shot proc, and headhunter proc. You lose 1.3k HP.You die.It's really that simple.
>>569600745Nigger you're playing a game that hasn't even come out yet and acting like a toddler because people aren't being spineless cowards who give up at the first sign of disadvantage like you
This discussion is pointless because no Valve game has a surrender button nor Icefrog would ever add one.
>>569601202>I wouldn't be advocating for FF if the matchmaking wasn't complete and utter dogshit.I hope you understand why I don't believe you
>>569601195League has no macro.>>569601207Trick question since its the same public.
>>569601232The 0/10 Billy running it down, all our walkers being down while they still have guardians, and every urn being taken resulting in a 50k+ deficit isn't a just "disadvantage". We are objectively losing the video game.
>>569601219Why does bell proc headhunter.
>>569600784Headhunter feels like because it scales identically for every character, so it swings heavily in favor of characters with high ammo, accuracy, and projectile speed to sneak a lucky proc in by firing downrange.Headhunter shouldn't have a cooldown, and have its bonus damage and heal scale with the damage of each individual shot. A character with a slow firing weapon hitting each shot would get the same damage boost as a character hitting every shot with a super fast firing weapon.
>>569601236CS does but you have to have someone who abandons first
>>569601426It's not the bell. It's the piercing shot that procs mystic shot and headhunter. If you're good at leading bells you get contact damage + headhunter + mystic shot + opening rounds proc.It does a fuck load of damage. If you can lead and aim your bells right. Even easier to do with max cart. Cart > Bell at head > shoot head.
>>569601484So does deadlock! Problem solved.
>>569601219But I have spellbreaker.
>>569601605I.. he's too strong... Abrams-sama.. Forgive me...
Lash needs to be able to do spirit damage with how many counters there are to Death Slam
>>569601716Lash does spirit damageThere are two counters to Death Slam and they both suck
>>569602060>they both suckAnd other tales from Initiate!
>>569601716>Lash needs to be able to do spirit damageWhat did he mean by this
whichever anon was talking about some streamers cheating, I believe you now. I have seen some extremely unnatural mouse movement from a certain someone and it kinda clicked for me
>>569602060indom does suck, but counterspelling a lash ult is extremely fucking easy
Valve should add a vampire to deadlock that's an actual white woman instead of a gook whore.
>>569602176vaguepost king
>>569602196Lash can hold his ult for longer than the parry window, there's no way to hit a guaranteed counterspell against a lash that knows his shit.
Here's the issue with surrender vs notThe pro surrender argument is stupidly easy to understand because literally everybody has had games they know they can't winLike if you're pro surrender and you're arguing with somebody who's anti surrender, do you really think they haven't had shit games that felt unwinnable? Like, do you think that's some really novel experience or insight that only you and people like you have identified?Of course not, it's a universal experienceSo why be opposed to it at all?Like you can say it's an ego thing, but that's nonsensical: stomps don't even feel that good when you're doing them (at least for the vast majority of people)I think the idea that "my enemies don't want me to surrender because they're having fun beating me into the dirt and jacking themselves off" is a defensive fantasy designed to depict your enemies as degenerate in an attempt to negate the feelings of misery and helplessness that one feels from a lossThese are things we all understand, regardless of our stanceThe reasons to oppose a surrender vote are all more complex and second-order; they don't come instinctually, you have to really think about themIt's about how the game actually plays, and how comebacks happen, and the nuance of morale and how that can be made better or worse by the fact that you are, in fact, stuck in a game until you either win or loseIt's about games going late because they have to go late, acts of desperation and hubrisThe inability to surrender can't be gracefully contained into "games where it matters" vs "games where it doesn't", because the ability or inability to surrender affects how every single game plays out, regardless of the outcomeI've seen plenty of antis that understand the pro positionI've yet to meet a pro who truly understands the anti position
Why is Pocket allowed to rape the entire game? Why Icefrog, why?
Its just so fucked up how you'll play against 10 mcginniss in a row who don't do anything but then you run into john mcguiniss onetrick GOD who just rapes the entire game. Its an universal experience for every rank, from seeker to eternus. Its hard to even think of a character like this in another game, where the character isn't even difficult to play, its just that some people seem to just spiritually align with them in a bizarre way
why doesn't my rank go up when i win?
>>569602982Win more, have impact.
>>569602701Every moba has that one character that is unappealing design wise, and is clunky as fuck to use. But in the hands of a true ugly bastard they make it work, and they go under the radar forever.In this game it's Pocket and Sinclair.In HOTS it's Lost Vikings and Abathur.In League it's Singed and (old) Mordekaiser.These types are the insane one-trick super-autismos. If it weren't for the internet they'd be making fucking bombs and blowing up post offices because they have to pay taxes on a medication they need to live or some shit.Just let them be bro.
>>569602060bro... you spend 3200 souls and press f when you hear the "YOUR MINE" loud as fuck sound queue. It's not hard.
>>569599235If you played league you know that's a vanishing minority of cases.
>>569603749>DING DING DING DING>press counterspell>Lash just looks at your retarded ass>get roped into the air
>winning>enemy runs comeback urn>destroy them with our lead despite the resistanceslmao nice mechanic yoshi
>>569604278Urn needs to be removed from the game, it's nothing but a win-more mechanic
Valve should add horses to deadlock.
>>569601219I'm glad you are a doorman player who has no illusions about what a fraud he is. For all the blather about kidnapping and epic outplays, and the "Mind Games" tag, doorman is nothing more than a poke hero.
>>569604454Celeste's already in
>>569604454There's like 3. Technically 4
techies hero when?
>>569604454So true!
>>569605562I prefer Cheval as Billy.
>>569605562I really like the idea that in this timeline, Abrams doesn't even care that 90% of the cast are horsegirls and still keeps yelling about his book and punching the hell out of people
>>569602423>posts gook whore instead of white womanWhat did she (trans) mean by this
>>569603637This is absolutely vile.
>>569605838Stop responding to the retarded rotualposter.
>vyper can slide up stairs>think this means she has ground-level friction when sliding up stairs>she actually literally has zero friction on stairshuh
>>569606402yeah she fucking ZOOMS up the long stairs at midboss
>>569606402>>vyper can slide up stairsIf only the Vypers I get on my team actually knew this. Mothafuckas will literally never slide and end the game with by far the lowest player damage
>finally got an honest to God no leeway or doubt about it aimbotting Vindicta>no frogI'm not angry about the cheating, just sad I didn't get to see the frog. God only knows how easy VAC is to get around
>>569606634>>569606654Upon further investigation I've discovered you can literally just slide around infinitely in the little trench under the mid-line bridge just by riding the short wide stairs back and forth
>>569607134yes, vyper mid is abhorrent and if we didnt have a lot more fires to put out she would get a lot more flak
>>569607305vyper is so easily countered lmao
Retards will tell you that games like these are not a waste of time and surrender button should not be added
>>569604454I'm really sick and tired of tanks and mobility fags having damage on top
>>569607772>0 obj damageyep this was on you desu
>>569607134You can also do infinite figure-eights on the stairs in front of blue base guardians, and circles on the hidden king shrine platforms.
>>569607830I went to farm jungle after I realised this is unsalvageable
>>569607772This is nothing. I had a game yesterday that had a 0/20 Abrams that complained the entire time that Abrams feels shit and slow and it's his first time playing the character. Yes he was repeatedly going into 1v6 fights over and over, yes he was using a melee build, yes he was holding down Q the entire time
>>569607979so it was on you then
>>569607772>lowest player damage on team as warden>ZERO objective damage>seekerevery time you see a poster advocating for the surrender button, remember who you're talking to
>>569607979>FACE ME AND DIE!>afks jungleseeker-kun,
>>569608531everytime someone says that shit its because of them look>>569607979>afks >uhh my team does is sucks!!!! FUCK NOOB!everytime with these retards
>>569607772>0 obj damageso you know you're a fucking worthless retard right?
>>569607772>enemy team5 bots and a carry>your team6 botsWhy didn't (You) step up to the plate, anon?
Incredibly obvious samefag.
What's the point of Calico?
>>569608719you griefed your team just learn from your mistakes and dont let it happen again bwo
https://youtu.be/8w54gly7tmgHow viable is spirit Drifter? This looks fun as hell and I know for a fact that nobody would buy dispel magic against my seeker ass
>>569608840>cheat fov modshant be caring
>>569608773to showcase valve's originality
>>569608719>play carry hero>"WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH WHY DO I HAVE TO CARRY MY TEAM"if you wanted to get carried just play paige or something. the venator queued up as the carry hero and he delivered, you didn't. skill issue gg go next
powaslashe
>>569608962KUHRIMSUNUSLASHA
>Implying I'm that Warden
>Die in your game>The first thing you do is glance at the map to look for someone to bitch at>DOOD WHY ARENT YOU PUSHING. DOOD YOU CAN KILL THAT GUY. DOOD YOU HAVE YOUR ULT FIGHT HIM. DOOD WHY ARE YOU JUNGLINGwhy are so many faggots like that on this game
>>569608871They seriously need to crack down on cheat mods already
>>569608840If you can hit your 2 it's hilarious. If you miss your 2s, or people start buying dispel, you basically stop existing.
This is what I was talking about, thanks for proving my pointRetards are literally saying I should have died 10 more times to giga fed team>0 objective damageYes, that’s what going AFK does to you
All mods are cheats.
i use the maroon 5 silver mod because its heckin epic not because it lets me track her via audio even if i cant see her hehehehhe
>>569608932>carryBut what role are my teammates playing?Is there a dedicated feeder role?
>>569609626literally yes, one person on the team is always going to be a worthless sack of shit that needs to be carried and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>569609897matchmaking issueI haven't had a lane partner I wasn't expected to carry in months
>>569608840where can I get this mod
>derank all the way to seeker>claw my way up to at least alchemist>the very THE VERY next game after getting promoted someone rage quits before 10 minutes in lane because their lane partner went 0 and 4 under 10 minutesI will NEVER EVER believe you if you tell me this matchmaking is random and not rigged fucking nonsense you will never convince me otherwise
>>569610080>Go on several game long lose streak>Get a game where the entire enemy team are feeder troglodytes>The average match rank is an entire tier below mineThis has always happened no matter what rank I've been in
>>569610080Once you see your rank as a reflection and not a reward you will stop being upset by it
>eternus 1-5 = ascendant>eternus 6 = eternus 1~6why does it feel like that these days?
>>569610170>Once you see your rank as a reflection and not a reward you will stop being upset by itthen why is my retarded friend a higher rank than me if i carry him and always play better than him
>>569610272He plays better than you.
>>569610486he constantly overextends and dies from it, tries to solo fights on people that have more souls and items than himhe doesn't even understand or know what stat investments are and how to play around themthe only time he plays good is when i pocket him on paige which i stopped doing because its boring as fuck
>doing urn fight>suddenly realize it's a 6v5>check other side of the map>main carry farmingMaybe next time.
please remove urn
>lose ONE urn fight the entire fucking game is lostthis game sucks big penis
>>569612178Nah. 2nd urn is what matters the most. It's like best-of-3>1st urn wonyou need to win the 2nd one to solidify the W>1st urn lostyou need to win the 2nd one so you have a chance at the third oneIf you lost 1st and 2nd urn, it's over for the 3rd one just pack it up.
>>569612178I'm just exaggerating btw in case it wasn't clear.
naughty naughty vyper
>>569611310I had this happen but it was our Apollo trying and failing to take a walker and dying for it (it was a 5v6 urnbrool he was just that slow that the enemy team came over after urn to kill him). He said in chat "I took half a walker" like it was something to brag about as if our DPS and AOEsloppers couldn't have taken it instantly
>the trailing team can now deposit the urn at a comeback location for reduced soul value
>>569602665>I've seen plenty of antis that understand the pro position, I've yet to meet a pro who truly understands the anti positionAs an aside, exactly how socialism and capitalism works. Socialists understand both systems, and I've yet to meet a pro-capitalist cocksucker who understands at all what socialists are advocating. Pro-capitalist people can almost never even understand the system they are supporting themselves.
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/frozen-shelters-ability-description-disappears-while-in-dome.140771/
>>569610976It’s fascinating how people that really don’t give a fuck about intricacies of the game do better than people that watch guides and train
>>569613162That's because your ult is temporarily replaced by "toggle off ability." Shit is very minor. It's not even worth fixing that if I was a dev.
>>569613181I unironically worry about thisWhat if I'm trying to get good in a way that's violently sabotaging my attempts
>Game is decided by which team has a tilted inting retardIf you're going to get mad at a video game, why even bother queuing up?
>>569613315I worry more about “why I am still bad despite training”If I could go back in time I would stop watching guides and just rawdogged the game while being a clueless retard
>>569613181i dont watch guides or train im just not retarded like he is
>>569613406Am I not allowed to be a mad retard for once?
>win one game>the very next game I get a doorman not only doing gun build but who doesnt put down doors NOT ONCE or use his bells ONCE I LOOK ON THE MINIMAP CONSTANTLY HE DOESNT PUT DOWN DOORS HE PUSHES WALKERS WITHOUT AN ESCAPE DOOR This is ABSURD this game has the WORST matches Ive genuinely ever ever EVER seen im genuinely shocked by how awful this game is sometimes
>>569614010Not in my team please
>>569613162>boho mod (cheat)honestly i was looking forward to boho and she had a good design i hope they reuse her model
>unironically caring about """rank"""ngmi
How do I always end up getting the worthless feeding idiots on my team? I thought this was a 50/50
>>569614773Rank directly correlates to a quality of teammates
>>569615179You're in the loser queue of a EOMM system
>>569615179yoshi designated you as a retard babysitter
>>569615296Then fuck this game four straight games in a row where someone feeds before 12 minutes this game is un fucking real putting Doormen who dont use doors using literal pure gun build with only one green item (vamp burst) going 4 and 19 fuck this game
>>569615445until a patch
>>569615445Billy and Venator are honest, though.
>>569615445holy shit tier list never post again
Im done with this game for the weekend fuck this man im playing gothic what the fuck is wrong with yoshi man
>>569615682>3200 on fucking nothing>into 4.8k greennigga what build is this
>>569615445I fixed it
>TierMaker
>>569615751The "oh sorry you started having fun this'll be your next nine games until you win a single game (because someone on their team dc'd) and then we'll give you twenty more games like that" build
>play support>stuck being lane janny>play someone with a good team ult like pocket with afflict>stuck being a lane janny >play carry>stuck being a lane janny>oh im a lane janny anyways might as well pick graves so i can split push>dont get her
>>569616338That's just what happens when the majority of the playerbase becomes former hero shooter players and the devs actively pander to them with urnbrool and trophy collector changes
>>569616562what sucks is that it wasnt like this before the march changes that march update fucking ruined the entire game forever
Did they buff gun McGinnius or is she still railroaded into a lobotomite turret build?
>>569576686No its mogged by rapid recharge, ill just buy a real gun item
>>569613016retardYou have to actively seek out the non-retarded to judge the apex arguments. If you did actually then its literally impossible to be socialist.
>my team>joking about throwing and my allies getting paid to throw>throwing out cubes and goo punches that look like I'm actually paid to throw>vibes were still good even when we were down 10k>enemy team>calling each other niggers with no aim>literally at each other's throats all game for every single mistakewe won without even taking midboss
>>569615445only only 5 correct placements, genuinely hard to accomplish
>>569617578i don't know what characters those are animetard so i don't care
>>569618371Pretty sure that's Dynamo
>>569618371that's skeleton from the hit game minecraft, it also had a movie
>>569617578>your teamwestern europeans>their teamrussians and eastern europeans
>>569608840what is this mod called
They should give Combo from Mo and Krill to Drifter he already has the whole Hunter from L4D thing going on he should pounce on you and tear you up instead of making it go dark for a couple of seconds
>>569618874Huh? I'm indonesian...
>>569619913did i stutter?
>>569571097
>>569620154>rem playersThey suck lots of cocks!
Playing this game feels miserable because the outcome is fully dependent on your team and the enemy team unless you pick one valve's pets that can actually tilt the odds in your favor
>>569619708Either that or Shiv's ult.
>>569620398its not even fully dependent on your team as a whole every game someone will get the resident Feeder if he's on your team you lose if he's on their team you win and its usually one guy I swear the game is purposefully designed like this its not one guy doing less bad than the others no its the guy going 0 and 19 who doesnt even bother clearing waves or defending objectives
>i can just sit back in fights and spam my goo spaltter>this will get me max damage>no kills so nobody sees me as a threat>can chuck these suckers clear down lane so everything is pushedIt works, i'm winning, but am I having fun?Do I miss the punch builds?
>>569620906Punch counting as melee always felt weird to me.
>>569620906you know going splatter build doesn't prevent you from buying rapid recharge
Is viscous a boy or a girl
>>569621565>I'm Trixie! :]
More tiny heroes when? I want enough to make a whole team of team, ganking peoples out of the labubu tunnels.Gimme a goblin and a fairy and shit. Like the sewers are vomiting fairy tales.
>>569621565They are genderfluid
>>569620381that's just rem though
Quasimorph and Palworld are having their last sales before their 1.0 release and a price hike. Maybe it's a sign to take a break from Deadlock...
>Superior Duration>Arcane SurgeYep, it's time to show these urntards that da darkness cums fo em...
>>569622546dey gonna cry, dey gonna run, dey gonna scream but it dont madduh
>>569559247
I HATE YOUUU
Which Deadlock would you like to sleep with most?
>>569624362Rem but not in a sex way sometimes I cant sleep asking Rem to use Naptime on me would probably feel so good
>>569576686gray talon, lash when he was gun
>>569624640You know what this is actually pretty good. I would've said Ivy but she'd crush my bed (unless her non stone form is light and smooth).Rem can make me have quality and fast sleep and I just have to feed him some cookies once in a while. Plus you can ask him to send his little helpers around the house to do chores (I hear they do lots of things).
>>569599857schizoGOD...
My name is Rem I'm a character for foids and I take every single sinner on my side the moment they come off cooldown and act all cute about it if you tell me not to
>yamato and graves player on enemy team complaining about how long mcginnis ult lastsare we deadass right now
>>569625914>your ult can be destroyed with two puncheswhy cant graves complain?
>>569625914It's true
>>569626338because she can put it completely out of anyone's melee range and it's just as, if not, more effective? Graves players everyone I guess....
>>569626535How can she put it out of anyones melee range? just go to it and punch it is she supposed to only put it right in front of you? You know two metres to your left is out of your melee range? yeah no shit sherlock
>>569626535>Graves ult >More effective than McGinnis???
>>569626640You do not understand the concept of area control and denial I guess so there is no point in trying to explain it>>569626657I never said that I said graves ult was more effective if you put it out of people's reach take some reading comprehension classes
>>569626857>im gonna vague post look guys you just dont erm understand i am the vaguepost kingokay anon just ask the graves to put her ult in front of you directly ontop of you because 'outside of your melee range which is like a metre in front of you is le unfair and there's no way to counter'
>>569626857>I never said that>graves ult was more effective if you put it out of people's reach ???
>>569626974>>569627009I feel like I'm talking to two fucking gorillas holy shit
Enduring speed, or trophy collector? I want the move speed
>>569626338>gravesnigger doesn't know how to parry
>>569627357wait but he just said it was out of his melee range surely you cant be punching it its gulps out of your melee range theres literally nothing you can do>>569627091no you just realised you're a fucking idiot
>>569622039I doubt there will be more, definitely not a full team worthThe rest will function like calico with an ability that lets them traverse themNot sure the tunnels as they are will even survive development, the actual tunnels may end up removed but I'm sure the vent shortcuts will stay in some way
>>569627442You are beyond stupid
>>569627502>no argumentyep that's people who complain about graves alright now go press 4 as dynamo on midboss or something
been out for over a weekwhats the status of the urn update
>>569627684It's good now
>>569627684it's worse
>>569627590I'm not arguing with you because you are making things up that I didnt say and arguing with those instead of my actual points dummy
>>569627684it's whatever
>>569627684I dunno, haven't played dl once this year because of gunshit.
>>569627948But guns haven't been good all year?
>>569627915Dude there's nothing to argue, McGinnis ult is a thousand times better than GravesUnironically outing yourself as a seekerGOD
>>569627684It's more or less fineI still think a proper KotH tug-of-war would be better but it doesn't really matter that much if I'm being honest
>>569628115that was never my point and you've been too retarded to realize this the entire time
>>569628315Then what the fuck is even your point??? That Graves and Yamato can't complain McGinnis ult lasts forever (which is true)???
You should be able to answer this.
>>569628464im voting 4 and i dont care what some seething oracle 2 tranny thinks about it
>>569628462His point is uhh it lasts too long cause its out of melee range so you cant melee it but uhh...graves can also parry it cause uhh...its out of melee range?
>>5696284641Silver is le week......Really though, it's not a very useful question because all of her biggest problems are aspects that both don't feel rewarding to have and also seem unfair to play against
>>569628464I literally can't, I'm not allowed to select the correct answer which is 0
>>569570972its the only hero they can comment without causing "drama"
>>569576686Graves players who don't know that it's bugged on their character
>>5696284645, if you dont misplay she mogs hard
Sinclair is a trans person!HRT changes people!
>>569630028get help
>be slightly too far away from urn dropoff>no notification it's deposited>no UI elements>no musichate this
>>569630028Sinclair is genderfluid and also has Dissociative Identity Disorder, though.
>>569628462Yamato is one of the strongest characters in the game and they buffed her on top of that so she has no right to complain, and graves is also very strong so she has no right to complain, mcginnis is a dogshit character who dies the second her team doesn't play bodyguard for her, and yet she still got nerfs in the most recent patch. Do you understand now gravestard?>>569628746Gravestard
>>5696284645 but when I play her 1
>>569630453>mcginnis is a dogshit character
>>569615445Based
odds play DL and hope to get non shit teammatesevens buy gothic remake instead
>>569632065FUCK
I played 11 games today and I only won 2. Ask me anything.
The melee urn was more fun.I miss it bros.
>>569628464Initiate thru ascendant = 1, Eternus =5
uhhh
>>569628464Entirely depends on who's playing her and if the enemy team counters her or not
why leaning is a mechanic in this game
>>569633448I love kids, Savannah! I love kiiiiiids!
>>569632286boxing under the bridge in the sidelane was kino.
>>569633448same desu
would the game be worse if it was 5v5 with a solo lane
>>569633668just needs a bit wider of a map.
>>569632719this is the average apollo shitter thinking he can still just dive the tower parry it press riposte and teleport into another lane
>>569632286Played a lot of matches with koth urn now and I actually agree I think, koth has this awful reverse sweep dynamic to it where one team will win a fight except they won't be able to kill one guy who's especially tanky or evasive and they've just burned all their CDs and are low on HP, and then the team that lost the fight respawns, boosts into the fight, and kills them all, and are now up massively. They should get rid of the retarded stall mechanic or cut the timer to 30s before it gives up and explodes into claimable souls.
>>569632350It's literally "does my team buy me a heroic aura and hex/knockdown people I want to go on so I can build actual items" vs not>>569627198Trophy Collector literally just prints 5-6k per game and makes urn running a fucking BREEZE because sprint isn't disabled anymore. Outside of like the initial jump pad you actually don't have to give a shit about 'urn routes' anymore. Though in saying that I do run myself a rescue beam and heroic aura and slowing hex which all give sprint too. Sometimes even have a casual rusted barrel depending on the lane.
What is Rem supposed to be? A bird? Why does he have a tail?
>>569634195baby griffin
>>569634195Gryphon, that's why he has a tail and paws, but also has bird feathers and a beak
>>569620512Just played this game. Our lash played like shit and went 0-4 in lane and our Wraith was like "get me off this fucking lane" the entire time. But the enemy team had this garbage seven who kept getting hooked into my slowing hex and just dying for free. Seven is such a shit character early. The only times feeding retard games are winnable is when the enemy team has one just as bad. I genuinely have to wonder what it would do for match quality if the game was 5v5 and they could focus the players into more appropriate games. Like you say it feels like there's always some feeding retard. Is that by design or are they forced to make compromised games to maintain a decent queue time?
>>569633443why not?
>>569616338>>play carry>>stuck being a lane jannyBut that's ideal?>Buy Trophy Collector because it's cheap now>All 5 members of my team are permanently forcing fights in random jungle areas and never farming>My TC is deadweight now because I have to farm the waves>No one else scales and we loseLOL!
>>569615445amazing... the only way to get a 0% on a test is to know what all the correct answers are
>>569616562You see you say that but these retards don't even buy TC 80% of the time. They just brool out of habit because street brawl thought them that much but not anything else. They don't actually understand why it's bad to lose your tower at 4 minutes and why you shouldn't let the enemy team just take walkers at 9m.
>>569634314This does not look like Rem…
>tracklock says im alchemist 3>i'm phantom 4
>>569634785If you know this why are you getting queued with people like this?Simply rank up????
Urn as a checkpoint is probably the best version so far, Yoshi finally nailed it.
>>569632286Imagine if the area of KOTH turned into forced melee only
I 100% believe that there is some hack that crashes your game.There is no way those crashes are fucking random
literally no matter what i build on ivy, i do pitiful damageeven in games where i contribute a lot and get MVP my damage is like bottom of my team anyways (unless there's a giga feeder that we carried)genuinely what am i missing
>>569635497Bro I'm eternus I don't know how to tell you this but I have hardly any ranking up left to do.
can someone explain how the item rolls are decided in Street Brawl? I'm playing Doorman right now and they are literally not giving me any anti CC items fuck this shit
>>569635871The only gun build that exists on Ivy is capacitor siphon. Kudzu bombs don't stack. Only one instance of Kudzu will do damage at a time. Their vertical hitbox is pancaked to the floor. They don't amp damage over time unless you buy EE. Meanwhile Paradox gets to do the same exact thing but 5x more oppressive and bursty. You're supposed to just play her as a support and pick up items that explicitly help your team win team fights. You fly in, you kudzu, you bomb, you web, you stoneform, you drop nova, heroic aura, alchemical fire, whatever the fuck and use whatever flex items to secure kills.Here's an example build. Sometimes you want a rescue beam, sometimes a curse, sometimes a disarm, sometimes a decay. I generally flip/flop on heroic aura or alchemical fire based on if a team mate already has one. I lean towards heroic aura because team wide 17% bullet resist is huge value even before you consider the DPS and move buffs. You may not always be top damage but it's a big impact landing effective CC on people that actually leads to kills. I don't know how else to say this but the Grey Talon who does 60k damage and has 10 kill participation is actually a useless cunt.
>>569559785Great damage with a splatter build and his utility is amazing support. He's fuckin good.
>brools on blue for literally 20 minutes not clearing waves so is so behind on farm>uhm its the guy going 1 and 2's fault we lost ack ack ack ack
>>569635871what build?
games are decided by whoever has the russian eternus smurf m1gger playing wraith or warden
>lets blame the russian again!!!!!!!rent free
>>569637243>t.
you're only griefing yourself by playing a weak hero. you are taking the outcome of the match out of your own hands and placing it in the hands of a retard playing without a monitor.
>>569613181>>569613315Reading these threads, it's incredibly easy to optimise for the wrong thing. For example: never buy counter items before oracle rank, and even then be conservative about it. If you buy a dmg item that's useful 100% of the time. If you buy silence/slow/disarm whatever but can't coordinate to make use of the time when your oponent is countered, all you did was spend 3k souls to make them wait for three seconds.Here's a secret: if you are below ritualist you can win any game as any character by just wallbreaking when the enemy is distracted.
>>569637035>Set up 4 people on blue and secure jungle and sinners for your carries, steal farm where you can rather than use up your side>Put two of your big carries on the sidelanes and let them farm solo waves and eat up the jungle on each side>Rotate to side lanes whenever you have the CDs to go kill someone and take objectives>Try to have CDs for securing objectives like urn, mid etcIt's actually really simple in principle. Create space. A lot of hero shooter fags don't understand the MOBA theory in deadlock though and that's where all the brooling comes from. Doesn't help when they create a mode that panders to them and the game has no tutorials.
>>569637661Gonna need to wait a while longer for generative tier lists to have any merit. Urn got changed off being melee slop so you can't just drop two roots on Graves and win the game anymore.
>>569637829next cope?
>>569634195>I'M REM!-Rem
>>569638026Small sample size. All ranks. Both pictures are shit.
>>569638236next seethe?
>>569637243>russianhe's bulgarian though
>>569638338Come back here in a week when the sample size isn't tiny and people actually adjust. Retard arguing in bad faith.
>>569638442What are you going to say in a week when the results are the same?
>>569638338how do you build Ivy she goes up to S rank?
>Never once go into the enemy jungle as Drifter>End the game with 80 stacks because I put duration extender on ult and was at every single teamfight
>>569638442keep playing mina silver holliday bro you're having a huge impact on your team. it's just not the impact you want though lmao!
>>569638572Drifter shouldn't be going into the enemy jungle anymore. He gets stacks off assists too now so it's retarded to not just fight with your team.
>>569637661>Apollo in C tier.>Haze in A tierYou should be filtering these by Eternus lobbies. Unless you're Eternus, then you should filter by Eternus 6.
>Russians shit up valve games for 15 years straight now with cheating, account boosting with said cheats, terrible attitudes, angry autistic rants in their native tongue whenever they're not cheating to win because they're braindead and suck at the game otherwise>"Woah what do you mean russians bad this one time in 1000 hours I came across one that wasn't an autistic sperg"Are we serious now
Silver needs huge buffs, they should revert her to release numbers and buff her even more
>>569638874The only buff she needs is a big muscular werewolf to knot her
>>569638737you should play to win the rank you're in, not the rank you think you should be.
>>569606780I have literally never seen the frog and I've seen at LEAST 30 cheaters in my playtime.
>>569638737>>Apollo in C tier.Yeah that's a little high>>Haze in A tierYeah that's a little low
>>569638874she has a 52% win rate in a rank where people have monitors.
>>569638874Silver needs huge tits, they should increase her size to double D's and then also separately buff her
>>569639123I've only seen one frog in all this time and I've been playing since the first month. Have easily come across dozens of cheaters. I've seen people cheating on this game for months straight with no ban. Like to the extent months later I'll bump into the same cheater on the same character and other people in the lobby are calling GG at minute 0 because they know it's a cheater as well. Like hugely known cheaters.
>>569616338>play support>stuck being lane jannyThe worst experience I had was playing Kelvin and being unable to do any damage to fight off the enemy while they killed the walker
>>569606780>>569639123>>569639420do you guys even report them? why would you expect anything to happen if you provide no input to trigger anything?
>>569606780Okay so back in 2017. I don't know if you can still do this. But there was literal VAC by passers that would enable you to continue playing on a VAC banned account in VAC secured servers. myg0t used it.
>>569638874she desperately needs the "jeans ripped by the crotch area with puffy cookie exposed and visible" and "fat musky doggy cock erection during werewolf form" buffs
>>569639420I just want to see the funny reddit clip in person, yosh... please...>>569639527yes you fat chucklefuck, what do you think? Playing against a cheater gives you a 30 second window every teamfight to hit escape and just slap the cheating report out midgame so yes, I report the cheater.
>>569639654
>>569639527Yes I do report them each time. And steam won't let you report someones steam profile more than once so that's out. The problem is this game is supposed to have an anti-cheat right? So why is it that out of 2500 hours game time I can only witness one cheater get hit? Even Siege is better with this shit and that game literally has more cheaters than concurrent players by a factor of 5.
>>569639509Sounds weird. Kelvin is a terminal rapist that can 1v3 on objectives. Did you just not build damage items? You're supposed to build beam. And your dome makes objectives invulnerable.
March 6 patch ruined the game. Thoughts?
>>569639983I don't even remember what patch that was anymore.
>>569639672>>569639814concession accepted
>>569638521any build that has capacitor within your first 10k souls is probably good.
>>569636531i already know how her kudzu works i have like 500 games on the hero>>569637067pretty much everything from melee to like 20 variations of spirit buildsthe only thing i didn't try is full gun because i can't aim
>>569639805you need to broaden your horizons and realize rockets are as amazing if not better than cookies
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>>569640115skill rework.
>>569638572You dont want to do that as Drifter now anyways leave that to Haze and Calico otherwise you'll be using your ults to run away everytime instead
>>569640360I kinda miss how ivy's ult used to be.
>>569638026>no skill heros high teir>need skill heros low teirWoah
>>569640295stop missing your skills then.and even if you're not building gun you can still shoot for more damage.
>>569640312I simply will notI may want to fuck a werewolf, but I'm neither gay or futafag (read: gay)
>>569640626
>>569640626>victor>graves>mcginnis>ivy>kelvin>paige>no skillM1gger seething lmao
>>569559785Meme pick, needs 100 times the input to be mid
>>569638026I dont see how Drifter is better than 90% of people at C tiier
>>569640315let's see what this dick can do
>>569640865>simplest free win plays themselves baby heroes>no skillYes?
>>569640626dilate.
>>569640840>>569640865This S+A teir is objectively braindead compared to d+f
>>569640992Fuck off.
>>569640641what the fuck do you mean stop missing your skills this hero literally has no fucking skillshotsand people can just walk away from kudzu unless you spend 12k worth of items that are countered by a single t3 anyways
>got disconnected mid match for no reason>can't reconnecthmm
>>569641090Get good and stop playing overtuned retard heroes
Which hero should I play while hungover?Drank like half a bottle of appleton estate last night and boy do I feel it.
>>569641232Aimtrooner zoomies don't belong here. Leave.
Hate how urn became the main objective of the game, before you could have won without even running the urn
>>569641272Drifter because its toime to drink oop
>>569641272graves
>>569641131ok well if you want to deal damage you need to land your skills and your shots.good luck!
>>569641321it's worth even less souls now than it was then, but it has mindbroken the community.
>>569641537I just miss how chill urn wasAnd now you need to drop everything that you were doing and go BROOL or you will get yelled at by some retard
>>569641989you're supposed to use the space of the brooling to take their walker, not to farm the jungle camps right outside your base.
>>569641989urn was never chill, you were just too shitlow to realize it
My all-hero challenge has me to Sinclair and oh fucking Jesus I do not like SinclairThe awkward as shit skill shot, the assistant that does tripple duty and has to have its cooldown meticulously managedAt least the AoE hex is pretty brain-deadThe ult-steal would be okay if it didn't have a fairly short range and need to be immediately usedI assume you just build him like every other spirit nuker but still he's genuinely one of the harder heroes I've had to attempt
>>569642574It was chill because no one in my shitlow was running it, now the entire meta is built around urn and everyone runs it
>>569642670how many games are you going for in your challenge with each hero
Hot take: The enhanced items make street brawl not a good place to actually learn how to play a hero
>>569643431I feel the desire to win three games, which I've done on basically every hero up to SinclairSometimes I make exceptions if I have a loss or two that I feel I did competentlyIt's mainly about wrapping my head around the hero and how they're playedThere are probably basic tricks I'm missing, or maybe I just need practice landing my bolts, but it's genuinely hard to land something with what's effectively a completely random hit delay
>>569642670>The awkward as shit skill shotyou're supposed to do it from the roof of the highest building across the map
Yes, keep complaining about no surrender option Valorant/League shitters.Icefrog will never add it.
:)
>>569643958Silver is OP
>>569643958This is what my mate's games look like except it's Victor and Silver>75% wr on Victor>33% wr on Silver>He doesn't play any other character
>>569643679I will continue going AFK once I see unwinnable games then
>>569643958silver is le op though :)
>>569643958This is Silver when she is on my team, however once she is the enemy team, she transforms into giga rapist with 20/0 score
>>569643607street brawl is fucking garbage all around, we need an actual casual mode but the player numbers are too low for it
>>569644869>I don't know how to support my silver>I feed an F tier
>569640831us futaCHADS are straight.
>>569644898Silver is actually a support hero, you're supposed to attack the enemy backline
>>569644898I will learn how to support carry characters once I see someone supporting me
>win one game>this is the very next gameJust go eat fucking shit im nearing the end of my rope with this game I feel like a dumb fuck for continuing to give this game a chance I seriously am
>>569645265Show your stats pussy
>>569645671
I don't know how I feel about investment bonuses. Up until now I thought of them as a good thing but now I'm starting to think they limit your build options.Like for example, boundless spirit seems kinda like a waste of souls if you don't have a high spirit investment. I think I'd rather remove these investment bonuses and make individual items marginally stronger so you can have more variety without worrying about reaching thresholds.
>>569645846Grim
>>569646224no
>>569646314Always nice to have a brainlet respond without any articulation
>>569576593it's because she's too young to grow hair down there
>get to Eternus>take a day break>decide to play a match to see what it is like>same people I played with in ascendant
>>569646632>my mmr went up by 25 points, I should matched entirely with pros now!lmao
Shitlow might as well be one rank, seeker and ritualist players play literally the same.
>>569643958>first match 6/6 00:24>last match 6/6 23:23imagine playing this game 24 hours a day for free.
>>569646681No, I just expected to not play with the same fucking retards I was playing with in Ascendant.
Poop rankSeeker to ritualistDing dong ranksEmissary, archon, oracleAmateur ranksPhantom and ascendantPeople that understand the basics of deadlockEternus 1-5Actual deadlock playersEternus 6
>>569646224i don't like investment so i don't engage with itforced hybridization is dumb, lazy, and antagonistic design
>>569646632>>569647019It actually gets worse. You'll see an insane amount of account buyers at eternus 4 because it's people who paid to get E6 and they're on a 20 loss streak.
>>569647250so actual deadlock players are less than 5% of the the whole pop?
>>569647357Yes, and I say this as an ascendant 5 player with terrible accuracy of like sub 50%
>shadow weave phantom strike into ult billywhat can you even do
>>569647532>opening casenot my problem
>>569647250>e6>deadlockschmoovement troonment isn't deadlock
>>569647250>Oracle: Bronze>Phantom: Silver>Ascendant: Gold>Eternus: Diamond>Initiate to Archon: Homosexual
>>569559247idk what they did last night but every match this morning has been a one sided stomp fest.
>>569646632>I finally get to play with the ecelebs!Should we tell xer about the real test server?
>>569646913
>>569647287Finally someone with actual sense
did that nude rem mod get updated yet?
>>569646224>boundless spirit seems kinda like a waste of souls if you don't have a high spirit investmentLolno. 4.8k and 6.4k are the investment thresholds that matter. Guess how much boundless costs?
Cute Indian Haze
>lose one game on a hero I don't play>go down a rank>win 2 games on a hero I do play>don't go back up in rankYoshi, I'm loading my gun
>>569648087bro it's been like that over a week at this stage
>solo EU queue>team is 4 bong including myself and 2 russians>even though I'm feeding in lane a bit my lane mate apologises to me when he makes a mistake>everyone is pretty nice with great comms and teamwork>the russian guys sling insults every death "kill him you bot" and bm pause after inting while also not playing with the team at allGenuinely why doesn't yoshi just seperate East and West?
>>569648087>>569651034Been like that since 2024 mates
>>569650407This would plummet haze pick rate to 1%
>>569650407More laughable than a black woman making it in 30s Federal Government.
>>569651130they isolated russians into their own server at some point but russians complained about being forced to play with russians and called yoshi racist until he walked it back
>>569651130>brexiters >being niceNever happened in my games
>>569651130They literally did separate east and west. There was a week in 2024 where there was a russian server they were region locked to and they all cried about it to get it removed because it was 'racist' (as if admitting they aren't white).They did the same thing in DOTA 2 btw. Same outcome. Matchmaking quality skyrockted both times and went back to business as usual when they let the orcs back in.
Speaking of black women, why the fuck does Calico still look like that? When are we getting our redesigns? Is valve RACIST?
Why the fuck is Yoshi doing this weird eternus double priority hero bullshit
>>569652692so you ask
>>569651506your picture is of a japanese woman with dark skinniggers are ugly
>>569641272magic carpet/cheat death Rem
Crushing Fists should be a 4800 item.
>>569654310how come no one turned this icon into a GOATSE yet
>>569654310crushing fists should not have a stack limit of 6, but unironically-100% bullet resistance by light melee spamming someone
mystic shot + alch fire on shiv is the light and the truth. being able to build good rage gen at a distance without having to blow knives means I can actually save them to brutalize people without having to gamble on building rage after going in and getting cc ganked to shit
>>569654310>shadow weave 3200>CF 3200Stop there's barely any good t4 gun's. Yes I know you said 4800 but Yosh has autism and wants to force standardised item values instead of having nuance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TygNwW-oD8Zerggy uploaded what he describes as "one of the worst games of deadlock he has ever played". Its an E6 lobby that genuinely just looks like an oracle match. Zero macro, people doing things randomly, chasing people instead of going for objectives, waves aren't pushed. Really puts into perspective that in this infant state of the game that micro currently matters a lot more for your rank than macro does.
>>569651364It's just banter lad.
>>569627684It's better than the punch urn in every way.Still not sure if it's better than the pick and slam dunk urn.
>>569656068Explains why Archon felt a higher rank than Oracle and up. I kinda want to go back.
>>569639963It was immediately after laning phase
Move every ''support'' item like disarming hex and slowing hex etc to the Green item shop so spirit is allowed to get some fucking variety in the damage section>Decay>Slowing hex>Disarming hex>Knockdown>Silence WaveAll need new spirit item replacements that deal DAMAGE
>>569657112>make green even better
>>569657112Nah in fact the opposite needs to happen. Healbane should still be a spirit item.
>>569657112no
>>569657112>>Disarming hexmore like>Disarming sexheh
>>569657112>all made useless because of one 3200 green itemlol
>>569657954exactly, they are useless items that just clog up the spirit item shopthe major august patch better bring us like 5-6 new spirit items that actually do something
>>569657112Add an Universal Item shop that houses most utility items. Have them count for half their price in investment for all categories, eg you buy a 3200 universal item you get 1600 investment in green, purple and orange
Active items should have their own slots not even kidding
Am I basically forced to buy dispel magic to actually play the game as Apollo?
>>569658168You better delete this before yoshi sees it, i'm not joking.
I fucking hate dealing with drunk people i could have been playing deadlock rn but no i have to take this retard to his house
>>569658558bum him
>>569658317Yes?
>>569658254This but unironically People would actually use them and get them
>>569659184I was joking Im 100% serious its silly you have to use so much slots >they have a mina you need slowing>and if they have an infernus you need dispel>oops they have a vyper you need disarming/metal skin>oops you have no items to deal damage or resist damage you lose :)
>>569658254>>569659184>turn the walker flex slots into three dedicated active slots>everyone just gets their standard item slot pool out the gate>or introduce new objectives to unlock the old flex slots and have both
>>569659330*Wasnt joking* oops
How long until they remove the % of current hp damage from Silver's slam fire and replace it with an effect that actually does something?
>>569659724this is the kind of shitter that says silver is bad btw
>>569659885>current hp% gooddo you think tankbuster is good too?
oops they have a vyper you need metal skinoops they have a wraith you need disarm hexoops they have a seven you need knockdownoops they have a geist you need silence waveoops they have a lash you need counterspelloops they have a mo you need indomittableoops they have a billy you need rebuttaloops they have a mina you need slowing hexoops they have a victor you need decayoops they have a infernus you need dispel magicWhat's that? You deal 0 damage and have no resists? just outplay them seekergod...
>>569660227None of this matters because the reason I need these items in the first place is that I have a 0/16 Abrams on my team
>>569659885>he thinks 7% of current hp matters Even when it was 4% per shot +10 from hitting all three it was completely irrelevant.
>>569641028>the lowest skill hero in the game
>>569660325More like none of this matters because you need to buy every active item in the game while the abrams buys crushing fists only to get parried and feed
crushing fists should stun on every heavy melee, and 100% slow for 1 second on every light melee
>>569660227>dispel magics all that nonsense
>>569642670He's by far the most fun character in the game once you figure out the playstyle. You are an annoying support/artillery, and you're pretty much uncatchable once you get magic carpet.
>>569659469ngl I'd hate if active slots were locked behind walkers because I'm the type that tries to get 4 actives up by 20k
>>569660759UM BUT THAT WOULD MAKE MELEE ALMOST HALF AS VIABLE AS GUNSLOP AND AOESLOP?? THATS NOT FAIR
>>569660759based i dont want to aim or use abilities i just want to hold down q and win
Imagine if counterspell stunned whoever was being counterspelled, and made them take 25% more damage from ALL sources tooNobody understands the pain us meleegawds go through...
>>569657112all of those are damage items>decay/silence waveliterally does damage>slowing hex/knockdownenables all kinds of bullshit combos into CC into DAMAGE>disarmresist shred on a tiny cooldown for more damage
>>569660227>buy slowing hex>buy healing nova>buy heroic aura>buy silence wave>no one builds knockdown>no one builds silence wave>no one builds decayAAAAAAAAA
>>569660331it was literally 4% per shot +8 from hitting all three but it got nerfed because it was too goodif anything they'll rework it because the effect is too strong>b-but what if they are low hpwolf form's 1 is literally the opposite of human form's 1, it deals more damage the less health the enemy has, that's why it's current HP%you are supposed to get them low with slam fire then execute them in wolf form it's like the most obvious shit ever>>569660032it's not a must-buy for anyone that can trigger it anymore but it's still situationally a good items on certain heroes and builds, maybe could use a little buff but that's it, doesn't has to be an OP must buy
>>569661297shex is core in my Boltclair build because it is almost impossible to dodge bolts when your dash distance is slowed by that much
>>569661238>Nobody understands the pain us meleegawds go through...Well yeah because most people get out of seeker.
>>569661123so true sis*F*
>>569661473slowing hex into vortex web into greater expansion into echo shard on bunny is funny because you can turn EVERYBODY into a bunny
>>569661379>it was too goodIt was and still is completely irrelevant. Do the math.
>>569661587>>569661587>>569661587>>569661587
>>569635871Get titanic mag, weakening headshot, and opening rounds for your first 4.8k spike. Then you can get support items like healing nova, heroic aura. I feel like I can actually kill people with these items.
>>569661238at least yoshit threw us a bone
>>569660032No serious player maxxed slam fire. Its always been the bait option. Real niggas max boot kick>ult>bola>slam fire.
>>569638338all D tier characters are unironicly good, this tier list is more a "how braindead easy are you" to play tierlist.
