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Thanquol soon, friends!
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LL for this feel?
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PC gaming show live in 3 hours :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVxQ7VLmHI
(possibility that TWW40K will appear there)
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>>569757823
Does fat british faggots talking about the game instead of showing it count as an appearance? If yes then it's already confirmed, if not then lmao.
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reminder that vampirates are the coolest thing in the game
you are a fag if you disagree
even if you agree you are a fag
you fucking faggot
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>>569757823
its guaranteed not a possibility, but it'll be some boring under the scenes stuff like dev tools or what not, I want either actual gameplay or another trailer
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>>569758282
I disagree and am a faggot
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>mp world championship
Any anons going to enter?
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I'm at the show. Total War schedule was already brought up.
>Will show army painter footage using Marine and Imperial Guard examples
>Will show off Warlords and Legendary Warlords. Warlords are custom characters, Legendary Warlords are named lore characters. Marneus Calgar will have footage shown, art for Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka will also be shown.
>Interviews will cover new engine mechanics on both planetary and battle scale
>Release window for "Summer 2027"
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unfuckingbelievable
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>>569759086
>Warlords are custom characters,
I wonder if they ever plan to fix daemon prince. And maybe if we are lucky dogs of war will have a custom lord too.
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>>569759086
summer 2027? zzz
expected this winter
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I hope that unit is useful for you bhashiva :)
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why does the game treat Sarthoreal the Ever-Watcher like he's some kind of important character when he's a fodder minor faction in both IE and RoC
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>>569760418
he's one of those semi-unique characters like alastair

and put some respect on his name, we used to have to beat him up as WoC in WH1
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>>569757736
Tehenhauin
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>>569760215
>this is a close victory
what the fuck is wrong with tamurkhan
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>>569759813
Nobody is going to release anything this year because of GTA VI
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>>569761245
cheat faction to make people buy DLC, please understand
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>>569761245
Tamurkhan's the strongest LL in the game, you shouldn't even consider fighting manual battle if you don't have at least a few powerful shooters dedicated to killing him.
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time to rape these monkeys with magic
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>>569761562
I beat him once, but that was a "kill the rest of his army then mob him on triple speed" kinda ordeal

where the fuck are all the anti-large ogre units
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>>569762020
>built in 40% magic res
This will take a while.
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>valiant defeat
okay so ogre bulls just don't autoresolve I guess
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>>569749570
Depends on the matchup and what i expect to face, usually the most meta approach is mass glade guard opener with dryads+cavalry for backup
But heavy skirmish or infantry heavy can be good to, even pure wardancer rush, i'll show you some of my builds when i get home
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>>569757736
Guilliman
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How do I start learning to get better with moving my troops in the battlefield?
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>>569762479
Gnoblars have better ar than bulls, lol. Bulls always get raped first.
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>>569762343
it works
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>>569762945
Pause the game more often.
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>>569763571
That's illegal
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>>569759086
Summer 2027 comports with what we've seen of their current place in development. In fact I'd almost be concerned it's a little soon in development terms. I sincerely hope they don't pull a Rome 2 and rush it out with all the mid-development problems and teething issues unfixed.
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>>569757545
>future games show
>show nothing about total war

So the franchise is dead?
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>>569762945
Pause the game or put it in slowmo. The tactics and motions are all the same, but playing in realtime means making those decisions fast. It's fine to start slow and work your way up, you're building the foundational skills either way.
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>>569763719
Yes, and hyenas killed it.
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>>569763858
I really hope they're not threatening people with a PSO3.
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You should consider flashpoints whilst the battle is loading.
Prepare contingency plans in your mind. Always expect the unexpected.
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>>569762307
Earliest good Anti-Large is t3 (leadbelchers). You also get Great Weapon Maneaters and Mournfang/Crusher GWs. Their Anti-large is pretty good, it just unlocks from t3 onwards. No t1 chaff AL, although Gnoblar Trappers can do surprising alount of damage to unarmored Large due to their massive unit size.
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>>569766083
Don't kitty kats unlock antilarge in some early research? Pretty sure they do.
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>>569765287
>select army
>right click enemy
Works every time.
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Bretonnia news when?
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>>569766873
based Khornechad
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Ctrl+G to lock group your army
Alt+RMB enemy to auto the fight
:)
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>>569767064
mon seigneur...
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any mods that remove tamurkhan from the game?
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Any mods that add tung tung sahur to the game?
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>>569757736
Campaign Failure screen
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I just heard
DAWI FROM ANOTHER HOLD ARRIVE
Under my floorboard...should I be concerned
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>deploy army
>max speed
>leave for a few minutes and come back to the victory screen
Any other dwarf "players" here?
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>>569769295
Tis a great day!
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>>569757736
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>>569759086
>Release window for "Summer 2027"
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>>569757736
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I can't do it guys
I can't do another battle against tamurkhan
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>>569759086
>Marneus Calgar
that literally who eceleb who showed up on announcment is him I'd wager
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>>569761221
Tehenhauin sieg heil
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>>569761245
He is this fucking powerful?.. I never played against him early...
>>569761245
Yes actually maybe this cav can fuck up his melee troops
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>>569761262
Barbie is releasing a game in November THOUGH
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>>569759086
So
>Calgar for Space Marines
>Ghazghkull for Orks
>Yarrick for Guard
Who's the Eldar representative? Also 4 LL's is even smaller than Pharaoh on launch so I hope there's a second one for each race that just hasn't been announced.
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>>569761262
I couldn't be less intererested in another gta if I tried.
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>>569774912
Eldrad
I think we will have 2 subfactions for every faction. It's already a thing with Cadia and Steel legion
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>>569775017
Why's that, anon?
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>>569761262
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>>569759086
>not a single fucking ounce of gameplay
I swear to fucking god this company
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>>569759086
>fluff
>fluff
>yapping
>date that won't matter since it will be delayed
WHERE IS THE FUCKING BATTLE GAMEPLAY CA? ARE YOU HIDING SOMETHING?
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>>569777957
All hands on deck for lord of the end times two months.
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>>569778346
End of september is almost 3 months away, anon. That is if no delays.
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Would Vlad treat the people of the Empire well? besides the blood tax I guess
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Who would win: a big phalanx, or some guys who can just run around it?
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>>569778739
Summer 2026. Could even be july.
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>>569759086
Without Chaos I dont care. Give me a World Eaters
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>>569779602
Oh, you're new here, anon-kun?
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it'\s up
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>Two bints interrogate a greasy gamer nerd boy.
This is actually better then it's been for a long time. That's how dire things have gotten.
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>>569779434
Who is this dudes? I like them
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVxQ7VLmHI
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DAY9 SPOTTED
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I hate them so much bros. This insincere cringe is unbearable.
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>"I am not a criminal, I am a freedom fighter with a modem."
AI SLOP
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does anyone know which table has the autoresolve value of units
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Relic jumpscare
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This is a porn game art style.
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>Company of Heroes remaster
It's over for DoW 4
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>>569784506
Can't wait for CoH 2 definitive edition and having to get all my commanders and skins again.
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Finally a really interesting build from ai
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what are we watching?
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>>569786389
the absolute nothingburger that will be shown in pc gaming show
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>>569786389
how fucked the gaming industry has become.
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>>569784506
DoW remaster was well put together and made the mods much better, so I have hopes for this
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>Stronghold is now a UE5 game
the West has fallen...
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day9 looks fucking rough jesus fucking christ, what compelled this dude to whalemaxx
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>>569788554
The pubs...
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>>569788554
he's like 40 something, what do you expect
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>>569788720
>>569788972
time flies by, I remember when he made his heart of the swarm campaign playthrough as a younger man, now he looks disgusting.
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>>569788972
No he is not a DSP so he cant have a lightbulb head
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I DON'T CARE ABOUT ROGUELIKE DECKBUILDERS YOU FUCKING INDIE DEV FUCKS WHERE'S TOTAL WAR
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They're saving 40k for the end of the show, surely they'll show something good as a send off.
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t-total war ?..
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THE SAME FIVE GAMES
THE SAME FIVE GAMES
THE INDIE DEVELOPERS MAKE THE SAME FIVE GAMES
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>>569790817
In 9 minutes
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Gotta admire the spirit of Khornes followers
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>>569791293
Cut the giants Achilles, and the giant will fall, no matter how large. bones for the bone god! piss for the piss beanbag!
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What inside?
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>>569791939
Gamer girl bathwater
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>>569791939
Expertly timing my close range single use item, to reduce the damage of an incoming spell by a mighty 15%
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>>569790947
???
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>>569792797
My clocks broken, it's actually in 22 minutes.
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WHERE IS IT
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is friendslop the new soulslikeslop?
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>>569791293
monstrous size has no intrinsic merit, lest inordinate exsanguination be considered a virtue
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Here we go
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>>569792797
It's actually now, I didn't have my glasses on.
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it's up
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here we go guys!!!
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ERE WE GO
ERE WE GO
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finally we have guardsmen taking cover like they do in the lore
very good job CA
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IT IS TEH BAYNEBLAYDE
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>heavily cropped gameplay
its over
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Should I play:
>Malekith
Monsters and frienzied infantry conquering the world
>Eltharion
Collecting LLs like pokemon but less interesting armies
>Skulltaker
A little romp in the swamp
>Tamurkhan
Going from hero heavy to hero only over the campaign. Small unit sitzes so fights don't take forever.
>Throt
Throwing more rats at the problem until it solves itself, consistently having higher casualties than the enemy, max unit size


I played a bunch of gunpowder armies lately and need to switch it up, otherwise I'll end up going back to FotS
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>Armaggedon
>no Steel Legion
>again
>:(
Niggers
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no space combat?
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>>569794104
DLC please understand
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Atleast the troops are vaulting over fences now instead of walking right through them!
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>new gameplay
no one ever watches the pc gayming show
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>>569794161
you'll disembark on asteroids and fight a land battle
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HOLY SHIT CAMPAIGN GAMEPLAY SPOTTED
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I need someone to compile every single droplet of gameplay they've shown, because its like, 1-3 seconds each
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>>569794029
Never a bad time to play the rightful Phoneix King
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>>569794029
Malekith! You can go some thematic army
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>>569794176
they did that back in Empire
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>20fps gameplay on a fucking game show
Well, at least there's the beta
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SIGN UP NOW https://www.totalwar.com/games/warhammer-40k/beta
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CLOSED BAYTUH
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>>569794104
I'm pretty sure they forgot about their existence.
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CLOSED BETA
>CLOSED BETA
CLOSED BETA
>CLOSED BETA
CLOSED BETA
>CLOSED BETA
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looks like shit
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CLOSED BETA???
Here is our chance trve vnderstanders
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>>569758407
>>569758076
apologize
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>no End Times
Boring
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It looks actually pretty fucking good.
They're really putting their backs into it.
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I wonder if any of the anons that get in will be legally allowed to show gameplay. Probably not if it's closed right?
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>Still literally nothing about Eldar
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>>569794176
the dark age of technology(2009) has returned...
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>video game beta signup
>needs birthdate, full first and last name, social security number, ip address, resume, and blood test results
really?
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>>569794730
I told you faggots
Eldar will be the very last
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>>569794721
I'll show it anyways. At worst assuming they track me down they'll just pull beta access. If they have random sign ups on their site it's not that serious.
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>>569794794
It needs your name, email address and country of residence. That's all.
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>that bombardment from the guard
I came, TW really needed a new engine.
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Can some autist compile every single clip of gameplay?
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>>569794721
they'll 99% have curated eceleb videos to gauge reactions anyways
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>>569794794
I signed up and then I got a confirmation mail that ublock origin blocks lol... some kind of 3rd party site that undoubtedly has already sold my name and DOB to scammers and hackers.
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>>569795041
I can, it'll take a little bit though.
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>Muh 16 units max
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Nah bruh the battles look like a reskin of warhammer fantasy lmao
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Holy shit they actually delivered, people saying this would be bad are in shambles.
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>>569795321
But hypesisters told me it would be a new engine!
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>>569795321
>>569795354
the duality of anon
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is the astra militirum THE corner camping faction?
the interview showed them having fall of the samurai style bombardment abilities, sounds like they'll be ideal for sitting in the corner bombing the orcs and space elves
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>>569795294
>Light, medium and heavy armor
Interesting
>All those individual guns
Very nice.
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>>569795354
I expected nothing but yapping and recycled content
Atleast they've shown actual battle gameplay, although, heavily cropped
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the worlds look amazing
too bad about the lasguns
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>>569795294
>It's another 20 unit army cap.
1998 called.
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>>569795294
tired of seeing these completely useless "at a glance" stat cards that nobody ever uses
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>>569795529
>is the astra militirum THE corner camping faction?
Considering they are THE corner camping army in the tabletop alongside Tau, probably.
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>>569795616
So don't use them?
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im good, i will wait for medieval 3
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Hard cap of 40 units on the field at once.
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This will be the real test for CA
If the units can shoot properly in these defensive positions or not
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>>569795953
Holy shit, shit posters fucking destroyed.
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>>569795294
ok, actual observations
>units are broken up into light/medium/heavy and unit damage effectiveness against each independently, essentially rock/paper/scissors (sounds derogatory, its more matter of fact)
>SEMs still exist, expected, idk where a battlewagon is on the foodchain compared to something like a stomper
>did observe a cover system in motion
>40 unit cap (unknown if unit number or a cost system)
>some form of reinforcement system
>armies still led by a lord, and idk how command works in 40k, but there appear to be 2 lords or a lord and hero
>no formation button, i see (left to right high to low); attack or melee, scout?, hold position/guard mode, ?, attack/range attack, reinforce, can't see, and either about face or retreat
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>>569796006
we'll be lucky if they can walk into position correctly
wonder if it will be actual physical cover or just a damage mitigation buff or both
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>>569794794
I don't mind CA knowing that I'm totally John Smith and I was certainly born in 1964
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>>569796006
This makes me a little nervous because the AI would shit the bed hard on this terrain on current games
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>>569796087
>>some form of reinforcement system
I told you all
It's Survival Battle/Domination reinforcement system
All those battles are "flashpoints" of big frontlines. Orks and IG constantly pours in from map borders
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>>569796202
could be a reserve cap, but idk. the current unit cards on screen presumably extends to the minimap and then maybe starts to stack.
>>569796202
did see the space marines vaulting over the sandbag emplacements in motion.
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>>569795953
Honestly that feels kind of small for 40k
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>>569796380
The current games are also using an old as fuck engine.
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>>569796087
>SEMs still exist, expected, idk where a battlewagon is on the foodchain compared to something like a stomper
In the TT there is no tier system, its a point system, the stompa is more expensive but the battlewagon is not cheap, its one of the heavier ork vehicles
>armies still led by a lord, and idk how command works in 40k, but there appear to be 2 lords or a lord and hero
Characters are all HQ and any of them can be warlord (unless they have specific rules forbiding another being warlord).
The warlord is the equivalent to the "lord"
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>>569796506
No one called DoW small for 40k though, why is it a problem here when this scale was never tried in a 40k game before?
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>>569796380
Current ai cant even retreat/regroup and just constantly advancing
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I would honestly rather see wh1-3 + all dlcs remade on the new engine than 40k, and would pay full price for that over total war 40k 1-3.
I know that sounds paypiggy as hell, but 40k is really just not it for me.
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>>569796506
I know Total War has never actually had full scale battles but it's still disappointing to see that Warlord titan scale units are still too big for the rest of the game.
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>>569796726
I don't know, I never played DoW and I don't care about it
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>animation of infantry jumping over sandbag rather than walk through it
gives me atleast some kind of hope that cover will work
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXW6GFxYxsQ
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>>569796506
the pathfinding ai can only handle so much small indie company please understand
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All I saw when looking at the gameplay footage was
>god I hope they improved the pathfinding
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>>569796087
>some form of reinforcement system
Seems pretty obvious that Aislinn's final quest battle was a beta test for this shit. Basically, you can use points to buy reinforcements and also withdraw units from the field to replenish them.
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I WILL spam baneblades and you will NOT stop me
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>>569794794
No idea why I signed up since I'm on Linux, but I'll give it a shot with my toaster and see how it runs. At the very least if I get in I can give the 10 other people in my position some feedback.
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>dow2 style cover
squad morale restored
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God I hate this pastel artstyle every fucking game has nowadays
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>>569796506
>>569796506
not even the tabletop is that big, I don't know about Apocalypse but there's no way anyone has that many models even at the official events
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>IG are just Handgunners with full auto peashooters
KWAB
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>>569796745
I wonder if we will ever get a Warhammer 2 1-3 series or if this current iteration is what we will be stuck with now and forever
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>>569797173
GW changing lasguns from lasers into peashooters was one of the worst changes in recent 40k history
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>>569797195
only after AoS flops
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>>569796840
Then shut the fuck up, tourist.
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>>569797146
There's no way to get around the fact that managing that many plastic figures would be a pain in the ass but I would've hoped that Total War would've been able to get closer to the scale of all of the cinematics and artworks
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>>569796745
Pretty same. I have enough 40k with a DoW and Rogue Trader and even Mechanicus soon. I just like fantasy settings more than sci-fi
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I will try to make nice webms out of this
campaign map
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>>569796861
That technology existed back in Empire and Napoleon.
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>>569797652
>Mechanicus soon
didn't mechanicus 2 release and it's absolute ass?
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>>569797631
First thing im doing when getting my hands on it is finding out how to mod unit size to double it and pray that it doesnt break the game
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>>569797308
10+ years of 40k, 10+ years of AoS, then 10+ years for a Warhammer remake series to be fully completed. At least I'll be retired by then and have time to play it.
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>you're a tourist if you don't care about relic's shitty 40k games from 2 decades ago while posting in the TOTAL WAR GENERAL
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>>569797631
With movement trays you could do a lot more
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>units armed with las weapons
>only have ammo for 15 volleys a battle before upgrades
I can smell it already
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>>569796890
31 seconds in shows the cover system.
Basically Napoleon's. You drag the unit across the piece of cover and they distribute themselves across it.
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Still not a believer.
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>>569797824
it's extremely easy to do on the current engine
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>>569797931
>shitty
You're fine to argue this isn't the thread for it but it is mentioned, don't be a faggot.
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>>569797824
it wont break the game you'll just risk making the game chug in larger battles
the game itself will be running fine but units will be stuttering as the pathfinding algo tries to keep up
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They didn't say when we would hear next about the game
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>>569798018
There's probably going to be ammo replenishment spots
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>no Rogal Dorn
>no IG air units, they're just off-battlefield powers
>only Cadians
>Cadians in Armageddon
>no Chimeras, Basilisks, Hellhounds, Taurox, no Manticore, no Hydra, no Banewolf, no Centaur, no Hippogriff
>only a Baneblade and not other variants
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>>569795180
All Gameplay Segments. Cut the audio because otherwise it's annoying with the constant cutting.
https://litter.catbox.moe/i1ukz0.mp4

I can also post them individually but that'll take a while because there's a lot to post if I divide it into 4mb parts.
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>>569798332
>no IG air units, they're just off-battlefield powers
Isn't that what they oughta be?
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>>569798332
>they gonna sell the units themselves as dlc just like james workshop does with his shitty models
You just know it.
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>>569798332
>DLC
>Maybe DLC
>DLC
>Not just Armageddon, they're using it since it's the setting for 11th
>DLC
>DLC DLC DLC
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>>569798332
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>>569798442
icky looking lascannon sfx but I know its just a palette swap or a luminark or something
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>>569798332
Everyone is on Armageddon, not only Steel Legion
dlc milking is honestly not surprising
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>>569798332
>no Rogal Dorn
there's clearly one at top right, GW is too jewish to NOT shill their latest models, it's why they're showing off Armageddon in the first place, Chimera chassis are fucked though for sure just because they aren't the shiny new vehicles >>569795294
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>>569798332
In a brave and inspiring move, CA has decided to release a game with 4 factions, getting a lord, a hero and 6 units each.
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>>569798929
>>569798442
>>569798358
Kasrkin look like those meme niggers with mechs which were parading around some time ago
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>>569798950
with these many spess mehreens on one planet, who is in charge?

do original legion chapters hold more sway over second founding and successor chapters?
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>>569798332
in modern day 40k there are only three regiments, Cadians Krieg and Catachan :^)
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>>569799248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1amwkUgmrg
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>>569798442
Looks like the firepower system will replace anti-infantry, anti-large, AP etc.

Also, yeah, this shit is just not for me. That console HUD is disgusting. Guess I'll enjoy WH3 while it lasts.
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>>569798358
god's work anon
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>UI even worse than Pharaoh
bravo TCALUK
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>>569799452
yeah, those guys
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>>569799295
they typically have all the senior officers of the different chapters come together and either discuss things among peers or pick someone to be an executive authority (usually a spechul named character) assuming they're not all their under the command of one of the few people who actually has authority to command them
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>>569799248
this actually looks better than I was expecting ngl
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Man, all fucking thumbnails and unit cards for guard are fucking niggers
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>>569799564
I'm going to generously assume that's just a quick rundown assessment of AP vs base damage according to fire rate or aoe potential but knowing what they've done to fuck with how units stats work before for no good reason I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled something
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>>569799834
so are they doing the wargame/warno thing of trickling in reinforcements
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Are transport vehicles a thing or is that lost archeotech from the Halo Wars 2 days?
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Looks to be an Eldar character in the middle.
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>>569799943
The Ogryns are still russian, and that's what matters
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>>569799564
they've been trying to simplify unit cards like that since 3K
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>>569799979
It's Domination from TWW3. That's why Domination exists in TWW3 to begin with
>>569800059
Looks like generic Warlock
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>>569800005
I don't see much point in transports desu
The maps would need to be the triple of the current size in order to justify transports.
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>>569800005
I think we saw chimeras but I doubt guardmen squads as shown would be able to fit in them
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>>569800125
the fuck is domination? is it like king of the hill?
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>>569800125
BASED
Finally you shitters are going to have to learn the cost of elite units being outnumbered instead of just throwing a stack of exclusively t4/t5 at everything
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>>569800227
It's what CA gave MPfags from RTS babbies whining
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>>569800005
You would think so if only because almost every faction has transports, rhinos and falcons are pretty iconic
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>>569798929
hate to be that guy but dow2 had better visual effects. I think it was made by the same guys who made sfx for company of heroes.
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>>569800227
TWW3 has survival battles in Realms of Chaos campaign
And Domination mode for multiplayer
In both you can summon units out of thin air from reserve, during battle. It was a blatant prototype for TWW40
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>>569800414
I wanna get into WH3 multiplayer desu, but I can barely run the game
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>>569798929
The right one seems like it has a wispy smoke trail, might be a lower tier cannon
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>>569799804
In all of wh3 the explosions always looked and felt shit for basically no reason.
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>>569800132
Great, nice to know that instead of one big problem (APCs/IFVs are tanks but worse), we have 2 big problems (map design's so shit transport vehicles serve no role in a mechanized infantry setting and they can't even transport units in the first place)
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>>569799390
Modifiers for campaigns on release is good. Hopefully as customisable as Pharaoh. I wonder what tarots are for if not modifers
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>>569800847
its a baneblade so they're lascannons, the right one just fired slightly earlier so its dissipated a bit more in the screenshot
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>>569800132
>The maps would need to be the triple of the current size in order to justify transports.
well they do seem to be triple the size compared to TWW3
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>>569798028
looks like they can stand on the 2nd floor of the building too
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>>569794721
They probably want it to leak.
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>>569801058
>buildings can actually be used and they're destructible
Pinch me
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>yellow las bolts
They can't keep getting away with it
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>>569801058
yes, they showed it in previous dev diary too. There is cover on elevation

>>569799248
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>>569799390
Is that Macha?
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>>569801058
GET UP ON DEM WALLZ LADZ
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>>569801373
YES BOSS!
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>>569801231
Red lasgun beams will be one of the highest rated mods on Workshop since release and it will stay that way
>>569801295
Same thing I thought. Looks like Macha from DoW3
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If they wanted to go for generic guardsman with they use that green anyways? Odd choice.
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>>569799390
>Biel-tan spook
Nice
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>>569801730
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>khorne's symbol is a stylized skull
>nurgle's icon is a stylized biohazard icon
>slaanesh's glyph is a stylized sex symbol
>horned rat's mark is a stylized rat's head
>tzeentch's rune is... a fish or something idk
Explain this to me
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>>569801825
>khorne's symbol is a stylized skull
?
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>>569801825
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
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>>569801825
Pretty sure Tzeentch's is supposed to be a flame bruv
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>>569801983
Yes, it's like the most obvious one
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>>569801983
It's more obvious with the variants that have the teeth on the bottom.
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>>569797195
Probably get a new warhammer total war in like 20 years
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>>569801261
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>>569802461
it is very strange for them to suddenly make lasguns little light bolts/tracers when the giant projectile trails in warhammer were already there
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>>569802213
>>569802334
I genuinely do not see it
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>>569802461
noice
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i wonder how other imperial guard regiments will be for dlc
since not everyone gets access to all the shit like cadia does
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>>569802654
That's a GW change.
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>>569802461
I wonder if my 3080 will still be able to run this
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>>569802668
Middle triangle is nose
Top left and right empty spaces are eyes
Bottom jags are teeth
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>>569802668
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>>569802751
the hand wave is that 70% of the guard is just cadians
even then every actual guard regiment generally has access to everything and only use/don't use standard gear because of doctrinal preference
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So a campaign is a solar system.
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>>569802461
>Lasguns dont shoot lasers but bolts instead
Gonna download cheats for that on day 1. Otherwise pretty good.
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>>569802751
They won't have all the shit like in TT.
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>>569803325
FUCK dude it needs to be billions of planets, what kind of 40k game is this...
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>>569803335
How strict do we think GW will be with 40k mods though? Fantasy was such a nothing at the time that CA got away with GW saying yes to mods as long as it wasn't copyrighted, but I could absolutely see them banning 40k mods that "affected the integrity of the setting" or some horseshit.
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this is pretty fucking cool, tons of gore just flying up

Total war never had gore like this, 40k is going to be kino
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>>569803603
GW is fine with modding Space Marine 2.
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>>569803603
You seem a little out of your element. Modding a game isn't something a company can or cannot allow, it is an action creators take. I guess you are going to be playing on a console or something.
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>>569803703
>can show absurdly detailed gore in showcase footage, not even saving it for the actual game
So the whole ratings excuse for blood DLC was always bullshit, wasn't it?
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>>569803393
>Astra Militarum Guardmen
>Astra Militarum Guardmen (Flamers)
>Astra Militarum Guardmen (Grenade Launchers)
>Astra Militarum Guardmen (Plasma Guns)
>Astra Militarum Guardmen (Meltaguns)
>Tempestus Scions
>Tempestus Scions (Flamers)
>Tempestus Scions (Plasma Guns)
>Tempestus Scions (Meltaguns)
>Tempestus Scions (Hotshot Volley Guns)
imagine the Charlemagnes........
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40K WON
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>>569803953
Retard-kun...
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>>569803872
I'm referring to steam workshop support, obviously, retardanon. Modern TW players aren't very good at trawling TWC for mods they want to download. Nexus is always an option, I guess, but putting pack files in the data folder is still a step too far for some people.
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It actually looks fun.
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any blast havers?
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Remade first webm to have all campaign look together
>>569803953
We can see Guardsmen having varied gear in >>569802461 Some guys are carrying plasma pistols in one part, in other there is grenade launcher mixed in. Not that I don't expect milking
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>>569804349
and last part of battle footage
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>>569804349
>>569803953
They have literally confirmed a custom wargear feature since the announcement, apply yourselves.
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a lot of people are going to cope and seethe but right now 40k and warhammer utterly rapes historical total war, its here to stay and there's no going back
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>>569804606
I know, we could see it before already, even in first trailer which showcased customization on Marines
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>>569803876
yes
someone even called them out of this by writing directly to PEGI and they answered blood dlc wouldn't change rating
there was a drama over it back then
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how is the cuck who kept saying "erm akshually the imperial guard fight in line formation and don't use cover!" and spamming out of context cover art and fanart when anons rightfully pointed out how ridiculous the imperial guard looked in the show and tell coping with the imperial guard getting a cover system TW 40k?
is he going to stick to his guns and say CA is going against established lore by adding a cover system?
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>>569804670
>ctrl+f historical
>1/2, only the op and your post
mindbroken
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>>569804948
I mean, they won't be in cover all the time...
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>>569805107
just goes to show how dead it is, its over
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>>569805204
As long as it lives rent free in your head it'll never be dead.
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>>569804948
NTA but some regiments have special rules specifically about them fighting in line formations and blasting a la Napoleonic era. There is a different regiment for every historical military in earth's history though, plus all the sci fi ones and ∞ donut steels, so your cuck nemesis wasn't exactly wrong.
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>>569805324
at this point you have to be baiting
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>>569804576
Interesting how FB and 40 greenskins are playing so different. I like FB greenskins because you need to use gobbos/spider cav/all other small things to achive victory (at least in pvp)
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I think it is really cool that a single squad can have different entities within it.
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>>569805390
wtf is FB
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>>569805381
It's like looking in a mirror then.
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>>569805521
Fantasy Battle
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>>569805523
reply to this post to feel like you won
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>>569805738
No one calls it that here secondary
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I got into the Hyenas closed beta way back, let's hope that I get in here too!
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Haters on suicide watch lol. 40k looks amazing
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>>569805521
Facebook
it's a social media platform boomers like
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>>569805336
even then the Mordians (the main example of the naponeonic line formation for guardsmen people are probably using) only really do it in the packed in hive city environment they're from to really pack firepower against mobs of charging cultists
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Truly a return to form
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Genuinely no idea how anybody could be looking forward to that shite
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They forgot to show the Squiggoth.
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I hope CA ignores those redditors who shill anti-fun mechanics like unit caps and let you make whatever kind of armies you want, that way I can completely ignore coverslop and make stacks of nothing but baneblades and support leman russes

the waves of conscripts are weak, I crave the strength and certainty of plasteel.
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>>569804576
Strangely my main complaint right now is that the battle maps just look fucing ugly. Don't get me wrong they look like how they're supposed to look, shitty urbanized wasteland, but I just don't care for that look at all.
Did they show any maps that don't look like that in the trailer? Like a woodland or something snowy or a tropical battlefield?
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>>569806582
This is 40k dude, but there's probably greener maps out there, but I wouldn't expect "pretty".
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>>569805853
>Hyenas closed beta
oh yea? look at THIS
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>CITIES TO THE SKYYYYYYYYYYY
>SPACE SHIPS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE
The 2023 gaming puter with nvidia 3050 I got SPECIFICALLY to play TWW3 because the nvidia 1660 I got in 2019 for TWW2 was no longer cutting it, which itself was a replacement for the nvidia 1050 I got in 2017 for TWW1, isn't gonna cut it for this.

And unfortunately, with nvidia 6000 gpus looking to be like 1000 bucks a gpu, probably not gonna be spending a lot on kids games at this stage of my life.
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>>569806582
we'll see if those biome variations amount to anything meaningful or if it will just be
>map (palm trees)
>map (sprinklings of snow)
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>>569806582
Armageddon is literally a dead planet that's been purged with chemicals to rid it of ork spores, so yeah thats probably why it's ugly
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>>569757736
Durthu
total fleshy death
skeletons can stay
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>>569806823
You have no power here!
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>>569804948
If anything was ridiculous it was you fucking whiny cucks taking a very obvious 'Lets just put 20 dudes on a map since the main showcase here is the environment' and using that as an argument as to how all the battles would play out. Genuinely low IQ behaviour
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>>569794794
>>569796317
I gave CA my full name, date of birth, and email, and only after realized that I could have made some shit up and next time there's a data breach I'm gonna get gaped. Never sign up for betas when you're tired, bros
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>>569806823
I liked it
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>>569806582
there are well known snowy planets but the parts you're going to be fighting over are still probably going to look like that
GW is so anal I don't know if they can properly do xenos environments
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>>569807426
all of my personal info including SSID has been leaked for over 15 years (and been leaked again by 3 more companies since LOL) and i have never suffered an ill effect from it. Perhaps I am just lucky (ish)
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>>569807575
yea it solved my biggest problem to getting into multiplayer RTS games which is having to micro 20 units at once
terrain also wasn't flat
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>>569806754
>>569807069
Yeah again I know why and it makes sense and everything but I just don't like it.
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>staggering architecture
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>>569806823
>>569807265
>>569807575
was there a total war online trading card game or did I hallucinate that?
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>>569808020
You're probably mixing it up with MTG Arena
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>>569808020
You're thinking of Total War Online, the MMO.
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>>569808003
>Ork buggy jumping from a ramp
Ok this is certified kino.
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>>569808020
You didn't, the other two replies are wrong. It was TW Elysium and this kino art is the only thing that matters from it.
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>>569806582
Space Marine 2 and Rogue Trader are new games and have a lot of varied planets, including lush jungles
We seen concept art of Eldar Maiden World as well
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good grief campaigns are so boring 50+ turns in
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The worst thing are fucking graphics. TW40K has this same artstyle as TWW3. I cannot stand this pastel look anymore. Every fucking game looks like this nowadays, jesus fucking christ. Stop making everything so flat. Look at fucking CoH3 vs CoH2. Or DoW4 vs DoW2. Or that Stronghold Kingdoms vs Stronghold 2, since new Stronghold was announced. Everything is so cartoony nowadays reeeee
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This shit is going to be so fucking bad lmfao
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>>569808342
jesus christ
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>>569808193
How is that your take from that image retard
The whole point of my post is that you see that it looks bad
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Warhammer Fantasy can finally fucking die.
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Enhance
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>>569809149
Computer. Enhance. That "everyone's war" tells me it really actually truly is gonna be always online helldivers shit and now I dunno if it'll be the most kino Total War or DOA. Instead of dives, it's battles fought on that planet during your campaign. Every week/month the map updates based on how successful the playerbase was on said planets.
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>>569809149
Someone run this through AI to see if it can decipher what it says on the screen. I doubt it but there's no way a human can tell even with upscaling.
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>>569809728
that would actually be fun, like a 100vs100 planetary war
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>>569809728
maybe its just an option to let us customize our characters so they can be intersectional
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>>569809728
It does look like this, but it's preceded by some other War. Maybe helldivers shit is just some gimmicky sidemode
I tried to upload it some AI upscalers but Blade Runner fucking lied and it's all worthless garbage
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>>569809728
>total war with a life expectancy
If it's as you say and they don't make it possible to play offline(even if it means not contributing to 'everyone's war') then it'll be the worst Total War in history.
CA have never made a game with an MMO level server load, the launch will be disastrous with disconnects and lag everywhere because TW40k will very probably be the best selling Total War of all time unless they make the recommended specs insane.
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Who is the Pontvs of 40k?
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>>569810924
Harlequin Eldar
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>>569810924
Eldar
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>>569810864
They can just have the shogun 2 thing where people can join your battles to fuck on you during games (Amazing feature, I would que up and ruin people's campaigns for hours). They could just be doing that.
Honestly, I would support it being mandatory, not only would people stop complaining about the AI, but they would be shown to be bitch ass niggers.
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>>569809728
>thinking it is possible for it to be DOA when even absolute garbage like Rome 2 had a dedicated playerbase
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>>569809728
welcome back ME3
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>>569809904
worthless fucking tech
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>>569810980
>>569810987
wrong, the real answer is tyranids
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>>569810219
>>569810235
Could be built-in PvP mini-campaigns set on a single planet with matchmaking
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>>569810924
Imperial Fists
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Am I the only person who noticed the insane super resolution in the 40k showcase? Shit looked like it was running with FS3 at Ultra Performance.
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>>569809728
>is gonna be always online helldivers shit
i don't fucking want that
fuck you CA
>>569810924
the online war gimmick
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Lords have bodyguards again
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>>569811523
All of CA's early showcases look like garbage since Rome 2 (since the siege of carthage debacle meant they couldnt use fake stuff anymore)
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>fagtek will be our general
>he will command the mewling masses on which races to play on which planets
>just like the Helldiver CCs do
Not looking forward to that.
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>>569811670
40k is actually going to fix the franchise and I don't know how to feel about that.
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>>569811702
>siege of carthage scam
VGH
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>>569811670
So that means Calgar will have his honor guard with him, what will Yarrick have that can match either of those?
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>>569811823
>fantasy was the cancer all along
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>>569811931
a baneblade
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>>569808342
imagine being an artist and putting this much effort into shit like TW Elysium
at least the waifu is cute
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>Load up Total Warhammer 40k.
>Click past 23 startup splash screens for licencing reasons.
>Click past 6 different health warnings.
>Wait for shaders to be compiled since the 2kb update.
>wait for the cinematics to finish
>Click past 20 popups about buying cosmetics for my WARbandTM customisation.
>Get to the main menu.
>Find out that overnight that the Space Marine players defeated all the other factions so every campaign is reset.
>Join the EVERYONE'S WAR!TM and wait for a campaign to be generated.
>No offline allowed, CA promises they will add offline modes next year 3 years ago.
>Medium campaign generated, automatched with 4 other players.
>3 of them are playing the new meta Space Marine faction, the other guy is a utterly fucking worthless cunt playing the annoying gay eldar.
>Sigh.
>Load the game.
>Desync
>Game crashes.
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>>569812075
I remember the original Troy Concept art had her topless.
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>>569812085
vgh.. soul.. I WILL be buying
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>>569810924
the real answer is the votann
you bet when they announce their DLC there will be people protesting because they don't want to play the votann, same energy
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>>569811823
It's probably a system which 40k has where you can attach your HQ to various units.
You don't need to that though
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>>569810924
idk i never played any historical title
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>>569812340
All you need to know is that Pontus is a minor Greek power in Asia Minor (modern Turkey).
>I don't care
Exactly. That's why Pontus being playable was considered controversial. Nobody else cared about it either.
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>>569812297
not even tabletop players want to play votann
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>>569812463
Shocker, considering the only new models they've had since initial release is a kill team.
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>>569812216
would never make it to the full game, the ghost of Grace will never allow it
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>>569812085
>No offline allowed, CA promises they will add offline modes next year 3 years ago.
It will 100% flop on launch and CA will be forced to rush Immortal Galaxies.
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>>569812443
in this case maybe tau? and while people like dark eldar they are not the kind of race that goes to war ever
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>>569812297
The fantasyolny mind cannot comprehend the evropean avtism of the total war forums.
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>>569811670
i read that a nigga armor for a second
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>>569811931
a command staff with a flagbearer
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>>569812463
>literally just marines with buggies
GW fucked up giving the Da Vinci aesthetic to the Admech
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>>569812707
fantasoys are normieredditor-tier compared to Romanboos
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>>569796506
Not that I wish to slander the highly guilded generals of /twg/, but half you guys won't run 5 or more units of cav at once or play glass cannon fast armies because muh 'micro-manage hell'. Chances are very few of you are going to be comfortable controlling more than 40 units at once.
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>>569812956
I can't even control 20..
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>You go through lengths to make sure Zhao survives as Bashiva
>Meow swoops in and Confederates him because Zhao is a pussy ass bitch who doesnt give a fuck that I have Army camping his capital
I fucking hate this campaign so much.
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>>569812956
The more units the less micromanagement. You can mod Shogun 2 to have utterly insane numbers of units and it becomes a much slower game as you are mostly moving units into position with reserves and it's harder for you or the enemy to break though your lines so you have more time to react to things.
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>>569812930
>19k posts
a trve Roman
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>>569798332
Judging by the weapon 'scrollers' in each unit, I am guessing you can adjust and customise the weapons in each squad vehicle.
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>>569812930
Tournaments Won: 0
Opinion has been rejected
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>>569812930
I love how rambards is highlighted, you can tell the screencapper was like
>what the fuck is this autist even talking about
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>He plays Eldar.
>His faction has never ever won an Everyone's WarTM
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>>569813729
>Everyone's WarTM
a what now?
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>>569813838
see >>569811305
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>>569813729
Hell yeah
I hope they're MORE fragile than they need to be
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TOTAL
ROMAN
FIRE SUPERIORITY
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>>569813838
Total Warhammer 40k is always online and has a galaxy map that you contribute to by playing and winning campaigns as specific factions.
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>>569812637
Tau are more like the Seleucids. Small but vocal fanbase.
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>>569813946
This is speculation. But I fail to think of what 'everyone's war' could mean if not.
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>>569813946
Source: Two words on a screen
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It's so over...
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>>569814019
It was also hinted at in the first video they put out, you were just not ready for that information.
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>>569814019
>But I fail to think of what 'everyone's war' could mean if not.
Uhh here's a version that took me less than 5 seconds to think up
>Total Warhammer 40k has an online mode and has a galaxy map that you contribute to by playing and winning campaigns as specific factions.
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>>569813729
>>569811305
>Total War 40k is an always online massive multiplayer console RTS
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>played azazel to turn 50
I finally get why he never clicked with me. It's because he's shit. Shit units, shit mark, and none of the fun demons that slaanesh actually needs.
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If it even exists, this meta-progression Helldivers 2 style map will be some complete meme nothingburger everyone will ignore as it will only be used for some twitter posts and marketing.
How else is this supposed to work? Everyone can play Armageddon campaign and as Yarrick or Calgar
Hell, white dot might even disable your contribution to galactic war effort
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>>569815437
You know how multiplayer balancing fucked over warhammer for the last decade? How fun features were gutted to appeal to multiplayer fags?
Every single week there will be balance patches for the meta-progression campaign. Feature changes, re-works, constantly.
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>>569809379
Lol cry harder, that shit looks awesome and unexpected ina TW game. You inadvertently posted kino.
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>>569816004
there's 0 need for that when they can just rig the numbers
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>now that the game looks great, doomsissies are creating an "always online" from thin air
This shit is too fucking funny, reminds me of how TWSW was totally happening lol
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>>569815437
I don't even know why you'd spitball an idea this retarded. If online connection was a major feature it would also be a major focus of their marketing. At this point you're just fantasizing about retarded shit to be mad about.
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>>569816636
>>569817084
Uh oh the cope is growing
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Yeah because Warhammer is always online because it has an MP mode... Retards.
These faggots think this game is real time or something and can't be updated at any time you launch just the MP mode, if you have no internet you can't launch that mode, if it even exists...
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>>569816636
>"CA won't do something annoying and stupid to counter the things they do that are actually good!"
This cope is unreal.
You reject the evidence of the last few decades!
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shogun 2 had a multiplayer meta campaign and it wasnt always online
mass effect 3 had a multiplayer meta campaign and it wasnt always online
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>>569817417
The evidence I have is that TWWarhammer is highly successful, despite hisfags constant ass bleeding.
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>>569817084
late last year there were already interviews with mention of some meta progression, but the helldivers comparison is clearly retarded when everyone is the same faction in that game
it's just going to be like the avatar thing they had for Shogun 2, but for singleplyaer
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>>569817576
please don't bring it up
still feels bad bro
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>>569817576
>15 years ago they did not have always online.
>So they won't have always online in 2016.
Lmao.
You cannot acquire total war games without the internet these days.
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>this random massive cope and coordinated shitposting from shitposters
Hmmm interesting
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>>569817806
that wasn't the argument, acting stupid on purpose is nigger behaviour
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Who will be the worst posters when 40k comes out and why is it the orc players?
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>>569817581
>hisfags out of nowhere
Ohhhhhhh he's coping
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Uh oh, doomsissies melty
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>>569818014
It'll be Eldar.
Oh and Chaosfags bitching that their Space Marines weren't a day 1 DLC
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>>569818096
Felt called out?
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>>569817084
>>569817581
>he hasn't been playing CA games long enough to believe they could do another Realm of Souls tier blunder

OH NO NO NO NO NO
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>People going schizo over some dev showing an option when clicking a planet named 'Everyones war'
Could literally be anything. Could be a 'buff' to an area that makes workers more productive or increases recruitment time of armies. The idea that this is some massive-multiplayer thing like helldivers is entirely unfounded and unprovoked speculation.
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>>569818302
No, I played Warhammer and as a result know that anon is right, CA will kneecap themselves at every opportunity. You just ignored it and mentioned the voices in your head.
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I wish Malakai didn't have the most annoying starting position of any LL in the entire game. His campaign would be so fun if you weren't instantly stuck in a forever war against 7 different factions
>erm but I like smashing my dick with a hammer so it's good
didn't ask
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If it's like Warhammer 3 i'm happy.
If it's like Helldivers i'm happy.
I just wanna play the game.
>>569818437
In fairness to these schizos, it's not the dev selecting an option, it's a 'Game Pillar'. It's also alongside 'Your War' and a third one that's blurred by camera focus. See >>569809149 not >>569809614
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>>569818627
why would it be like helldivers? wtf is going on?
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>>569818537
>Pretending to be another person while clearly being the same one
Pathetic, get your act together.
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>>569818710
I assume anon means the galactic war mechanism where individual players work on their own to further a playerbase-wide goal.
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>tw goes always online
oh god please no oh god its like diablo 3 all over again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKoDQogB80Y
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>>569818887
The cope is flowing
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>>569818014
All of you
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>>569818014
All of them because the 40k fandom/community/whatever is cringe personified.
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You WILL attempt to have a nuanced discussion regarding the 40k universe.
I WILL call you a heretic and farm (You)s from the /tg/ tourists calling me a based trvker.
This WILL lower thread quality.
There WILL be nothing you can do.
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>>569819407
Shit dude I just want to look at Eldar women.
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Redid Daemon of Chaos IE and it is probably the worst campaign in the game to me. I feel like I just spend ALL my time fighting to control and recontrol the north rather than really expanding further than that.
>Lore accurate
Not fun though.
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>>569817806
>>So they won't have always online in 2016.
but it's 2026
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>>569819681
I'm really just praying that they're waiting for End Times to fix his faction
But they won't
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>>569819012
I too know how to edit images
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>play gorbad
>thorgrim attacks
now what
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>>569802461
that looks insane, 40K naysayers on SUICIDE WATCH
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>>569809379
You posted exactly what orc architecture is supposed to look like though
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>>569820037
It took you 10 minutes for a comeback that shit?
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I hope the 3 unit size damage system is WEAPON-based, not unit-based
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>>569802461
Atleast now we know what the WH3 siege rework that added buildables was beta testing. It was beta testing fortifications for the Guard.
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>>569820117
Have fun. Adversity is necessary to truly achieve a fulfilling experience. Overcome the challenge.
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>>569808821
Rome 2 and by extension Warhammer 1 had ugly maps. 3 is an improvement, although still pales compared to the non-Rome 2 derivative games.
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>>569818014
literally all of them. 40k faggots are more annoying that fromslop fanboys
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>>569816636
Your friendly reminder that both Empire and Rome 2 looked great in the pre-release material.
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>>569818014
It'll still be fantasyfags, but among the 40k fans it will, as always, be the primarchslop fans.
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I want them to delay 40K so that we get more Warhammer 3 DLC.
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>rome 2 looked incredible in promotional material
>was terrible
>40k looks okayish in promotional material
>_
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Do you think 40k is going to job to creamapi or nah
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>>569821802
Remember when Rome 2 DLC came out in the middle of TWWH2's content cycle?
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>>569822662
Imagine we get a repeat of Rome 2 and Attila where 40k is so disastrous that they come crawling back to WH3
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>>569822623
Dunno but I'm not buying the game if I can't cream the dlcs
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>>569818014
the 40kfags are already the worst
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>>569819750
>but it's 2026
f-fuck...
Where did all the time go?
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>>569820154
>He thinks I'm terminally online like himself
Lol lmao even
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Guys I'm a bit confused about winds of power in Warhammer 3. Is this correct:

1. The bar on the right is the total winds of magic you can use throughout the fight. You will start with a percentage of this as useable winds and slowly gain more.
2. This number is hard capped at whatever the bar on the right says. For example, if you start the battle with 100/100 winds, reserves per second (Power of Darkness) won't do shit no matter when you use it. You already had max.
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>>569802461
hold up a second
did you faggots repeatedly say they fought in napoleonic style line infantry formations refusing to take cover?
I distinctly recall that conversation after the show & tell, I'm begging to think the /twg/ anons saying they play the toy game and know the lore are full of shit
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>>569824251
When in open fields they form blocks of men.
When there is cover they take cover.
This was always the case, retards, likely (you) kept saying that there was no way there would be cover in Total War, despite it being a thing since Empire.
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>>569823678
yeah i think so
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>>569824251
Do you think they'll shoot only while in cover? Use your brain a little.
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Whats up with these deleted posts?
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>Light, Medium and Heavy armour.
>Every unit has at least 1 (one) value in each of these stats.
>There is a scrolling list of weapons for a single infantry unit in the field.
I would say that this looks less like the normal armour system we are used to and more like a damage threshold system? A weapon does light, medium and heavy damage. Like, A guardsmen has 1 heavy armour so a weapon that does heavy damage does maximum damage to the guardsman while a Tank has 10 heavy armour so that heavy weapon damage is reduced by that value.
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>>569825579
It just be a quick glance UI. 3K had a simplified and expanded unit card option as well.
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So, what now?
When do we expect more news?
Fall?
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>>569825579
Im pretty sure that its just an abstraction, there will still be numerical values under the hood, we need to see what the "expanded" window looks like
But I wouldn't be surprised if they made a new damage formula
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>>569825579
It's probably a general idea of the capacity of all weapons on that unit combined
Each weapon though, might and probably will have different values.

My take is that you tinker with those values in the wargear menu, making a unit more efficient against lightly armored units or heavily armored ones.
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Warhammer 40K will surpass Nagash.
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>customization confirmed
>bodyguard units confirmed
>fence hopping confirmed
>cover confirmed

What else do we need to know by this point?
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>>569826517
Shouldn't be hard. TWW was built off the back of one of the worst Total Wars ever. Shouldn't be hard to surpass.
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>>569826110
>My take is that you tinker with those values in the wargear menu, making a unit more efficient against lightly armored units or heavily armored ones.
>Have a battle with Orks.
>Spend 5 mins before battle changing all of your infantry squads to have flamers as part of their wargear.
>Then have a battle with necrons.
>Spend five minuets changing out the flamers for plasma guns.
I can see it now.
I bet you have to get the wargear from random loot too.
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>>569826709
How hot will the Howling Banshee models be?
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>>569827037
>one of the worst Total Wars ever
Attila? Yeah, it was pretty bad.
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I hope that there is no character levels. The ability to level up lords in Warhammer is part of the games major problems. The Red Line has been a disaster for Total War.
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>>569827117
Rome 2, but Attila was built off that too.
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>>569826709
Space battles.
>B-But they said they'll patch them in later, maybe
lol
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>>569827974
Space battles feels like one of those things that everyone begs to get added to the game and then no one plays them when they do get in
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>>569828180
They're good enough to carry Battlefleet Gothic. Sounds like a CA problem.
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So it does look like a 40 unit on the field max situation. In this picture there are 24 units on the field and you can see in the bottom left that the player can bring in at most 16 more reserves.
I imagine that if a unit dies or leaves the field they can then have more reserves.
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explain what a space battle is
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battle in space innit
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>>569827353
Rome 2 was good though.
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>>569828425
>>569828551
Battlefleet Gothicbros..... we are forgotten....
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>>569827060
>wargear from random loot too
Not how it works, it'll probably get it from tech though.
War gear is comes with the unit, just like tabletop, but yeah it'll add another layer of strategy to the game.
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>>569830137
>War gear is comes with the unit, just like tabletop
Nah, you will get Green, blue and purple wargear from battles.
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>>569830217
Sure sure
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>>569828180
It'll be EXACTLY that.
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>>569829297
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>>569828417
In TT you can detach part of your army to stay in reserves.
Idk how it will work here
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>get the Slaanesh unit buff from Morathi
>Daemonettes and especially Exalted Daemonettes are killing quicker and better
>both Devotees are still performing at subpar ranges heavily outperformed by Black Ark Corsairs and Shades for the melee and crossbow version respectively
What a waste of 2 units, Morathi should also have access to Heartseekers, makes 0 sense why she doesnt besides faggots wanting balance on a single player addition that wouldnt effect MPniggers fake game mode in any way.
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>>569830706
The tabletop will have no influence over the number of units on the field.
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>>569830912
Duh
What I mean is, if we will "throw" a couple of our units in the stack to the reserves or whatsoever.
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>>569830564
5 years of DLC support, 2nd most played game in the franchise.
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>>569808821
I miss the color of tw2
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>>569820117
Use a squig cheatstack then win
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>>569824685
>This was always the case
(You) lying piece of shit literally a month ago when alpha footage showed them standing in a line you even posted your gay little tableslop army as "proof" the Imperial Guard always fought in line formation never taking cover and repeatedly posted about how great it looked having them standing in the open with the placeholder handgunner animations
>>565336234
>>565336372
>>565336918
>>565340026
>>565423094
>>565423806
or do retards like (You) believe everyone else has amnesia?
you should really kill yourself, shill
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>>569829297
Rome 2 is the best game in the franchise
only no-games secondaries and pontus haters disagree
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>>569832171
You are hallucinating posters and arguments they made. Did you dream this?
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>>569832171
>>569832426
>>569832438
you are all retards
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No, you are the retard.
Also, when will they release the Felinid DLC?
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>>569831324
>paypigs have terrible taste
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Guys please stop. It's a long established fact that CA bend the rules in the name of fluid gameplay. This entire argument is retarded because we've seen guard in formations, we've seen Orks in blobs like Fantasy, we've even seen Space Marines alternating between arrowhead and X formations. CA will design unit formations in whatever way lends itself to whatever they believe is the best experience. /tg/ trannies coming here and shitting up the thread arguing about how people line up their action figures will never change that.
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You guys seriously think they are going to make 40k Total war? How are they going to translate modern warfare to an engine designed for Napoleonic era battles at best? so much cope here.
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>>569833273
It's obviously going to be a Star Wars TW
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>fantasloppers falseflagging as 40k shills
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>>569832807
I've played every game in the franchise starting with Rome 1. The fact is simply that Rome 2 is one of the best games in the series.
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TW3 needs a massive, complete map revamp
besides Empire, Darklands and Lustria everything else feels like shit
most places feel small and cramped, Cathay ion the other end is huge and meaningless
really, the Empire is my favourite and one of the reasons is that the Empire are feels big, populated and still part of a bigger world that interacts with it and threatens it
so there's always something to do while uniting the Empire
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>>569833656
the problem with the map is that it's massive, but there's been so much content added that it feels cramped

there are unironically too many LLs
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>>569833656
Definitely. Southlands, Lustria and Naggaroth need expanding at this point. I think that they've lost their identity as continents regardless because of how haphazardly LLs are placed at this point but at the very least if you're going to have 20 mismatched LLs in Lustria it needs to be bigger.
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>>569782741
sling boi
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>>569833587
Name one good thing about Rome 2 that's not just "Ancient Rome".
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>literally just Grimgor but slightly different face
Holy sloppola, this is already looking grim
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The Total War 40k Player base has a Misogyny Problem... Players are using mods to erase women Custodes.
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>>569835259
>literally just Grimgor but slightly different face
Bit racist mate, not all orcs look the same.
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>>569835278
Can't wait to mod out any and all women that aren't sisters.
>but the Imperium
Don't care shut up.
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>>569835248
pikemen
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>>569835248
-Unique city maps such as Athens, Pergamon, Carthage, Rome and Alexandria
-Amphibious landings
-Much more historically accurate and fun Egypt (plus more historically accurate hoplites compared to being discount pikes in the original RTW) plus Baktria existing
-Going with that, the expanded map compared to RTW
-Barbarian factions are very fleshed out from each other and I've played several campaigns with different tribes
-Campaign DLCs that are all generally pretty great (besides Wrath of Sparta, but Rome 2's ratio of good to bad is better than RTW's Barbarian Invasion which was great and Alexander which was dogshit)
-I unironically like its politics system and Rome's auxiliary system is great
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>>569835871
What kind of map does Syracuse have?
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>>569795294
mobile ui
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>>569833273
>Posted for months/years before the announcement that TW40k was all but assured considering how much fucking money it was 100% guaranteed to make not only in dlc but how would it become THE platform for GW to shill the tabletop and any new models/factions they want people to buy for it
>Every argument against TW40k happening boiled down to literally "It just wont happen. Why? Because I said it won't."
>On top of that. I knew how much it would infuriate he who shall not be named to learn that Total War would be milking Warhammer for another decade
The amount of cum I blasted on the announcement from the satisfaction of being right would make Slaanesh blush, and the amount of smug I felt and all the "I told you so's" I got to post kept me smiling and erect for like a week straight. It was great.
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>>569836408
Walled in Imperator Augustus and a generic one.
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>>569839345
I felt satisfaction, but faggots were already pivoting a few hours before the presentation and doing huge ass damage control.
But man, that week was cathartic as fuck
>Niggers trying to grasp for any possible cope they could find, from bootleg star wars total war store pages to AOS shilling
It was great
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Morning anons
Cathay best faction
Empire sucks
Thanks
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>>569798332
Rogal Dorn was already in the render trailer
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nobody cares passfaggot. put it back on
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>>569839345
there's nothing like the feeling of being right

I hope total war 40k crashes and burns but it was obvious that it was coming
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>>569841440
My pass is at home, orbit kun.
And being anon means I can do funneh chaos things.
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>>569841246
You are correct
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>>569841923
I look like this
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>>569832426
Attila was better
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>>569844317
Hot.
Wanna make Slaanesh proud with me?
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When are we getting more Cathay dlc?
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>>569844792
Attila genuinely has some of the most dogshit game mechanic design contrasted with genuinely brilliant game mechanic design all packaged together with bugs out the ass. All to say no, Attila was not better.
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>>569845159
spring 2027
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>>569845267
attila is so fucking disappointing honestly

there are a hundred things in it I love and a hundred things I hate
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>>569845382
wish they would stop wasting ressources on 40k and make more cathay dlc instead.
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>>569845524
CA does what GW commands
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>>569845524
It's okay they will eventually shoehorn cathay into 40k
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I M P E
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40K Looks bad graphically, like WH quality. But thats what you get when they make it for the consoles too

Total war will never reach its peaks like it did before
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>>569845159
Fantasy is dead, bro.
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>>569847687
oh so you think tw 40k will be dead on arrival?
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>>569847854
Yup yup yup yup yup
Histgods WILL take Total War back
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why is there no coombait in 40k?
how can i play vidya without cooming?
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>>569841475
Why do you hope it does poorly?
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>>569796506
40kek is lore accurately small.
The biggest battles barely have more than Stalingrad.
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>>569847687
ur love life is dead
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>>569846326
how?
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>>569849238
It's as alive and well as the CA QA team
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>Yarrick but no Steel Legion
I want all of GW to be boiled in Acid, and slowly.
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>>569849401
yarrik and steel legion are two different things. they are not his personal army
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>>569847854
The footage made me more optimistic but I think it's going to be a shitshow release just because the faction options feel very bleak to me. WH1 was able to mitigate it with Bretonnians and WoC on release (Bretonnia I think was a few days or whatever later). Whereas 40kTW on release is akin to if WH1 was the empire, bretonnia, greenskins and high elves. Just very weird choice to me. If the guardsmen have some kind of lost and the damned light reskins then it'll make sense to me.

>>569818014
>Eldar
Extreme endless coomerism
>guardsmen
You know the type. Need a word for it. It's not Chuunbiyou, it's more 'le grizzled grunt is the true underappreciated hero' obsession.
>Marines
Biggest issue will be anti marine wank followed by sectarianism (IE hating space wolves, even if I hate space wolves)
>Orcs
Zoggin retards who just wanna have a good time
>Tau
Bitching less about their actual performance ingame and more secondary meme-hating. Also coomers.
>Crons
Fine
>Nids
Fine
>Chaos Marines
Whining about underpoweredness vs SM
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>>569849238
cute miao
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>>569849306
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>>569849867
>just because the faction options feel very bleak to me
40shitters will make this game as one of the most preordered game in history. Only Rome2 lvls of buggy launch may effect it.
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>>569849736
>The Regiment he's been with the longest
>The same Regiment who's home planet he is the Military Governor of
Next you'll tell me that Ciaphas Kain shouldn't be bundled in with the Vallhallans.
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>>569849867
WoC was a pre-order faction that people hated and they were ass to play, Bretonnia didn't come out until about a year after launch.
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>>569804115
>what is NMM
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>>569835259
Can you embed characters into units this time?
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>>569850124
Ultimately preorders aren't always a perfect barometer as 3K actually outsold Wh3 by something like x2.5 sales, but it still got canned at the end. I'd like for the demented histoid vs fantasoid vs 40koid shit to die out because it being used as a meme still is reaching reddit levels of driving a joke into the ground. And it's an unsuitable comparison because any warhammer game requires sharing profits with CA and also being severely restricted by GW in what you can (and cannot) do. And I am fairly sure it'll extend beyond that into what you must do. IE GW can tell them "Make a pack of [gluppus shittus chapter] for DLC", not just tell CA "No you can't use this 3rd edition reference" and "yes you can use this 2nd edition reference".

>>569850643
WoC still gave you a final foe to face.
>Bretonnia came out after the wood elves and beastmen
What the fuck. I know it's 10 years ago but I do not fucking remember that. I don't remember Bretonnia having empire placeholders. Did they just have some basic bitch Bretonnian units and make them playable later?
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>>569850761
>Brettonia
Yeah they had a basic roster, that was it really.
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>>569851027
did they have any LLs? or just generic lords
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>>569851181
It was just Louen being unique and everyone else was a Lord.
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>>569839345
It took 8 years of constant, endless, incessant shitposting, on every online platform before CA decided to do the 40k game. It would've kept going for 20 years and you faggots would still have celebrated it as if you were right all along.
Warhammer 40k has no right to exist without massive departure from the existing formula, but since video games are a product, a 40k game with line formations and space land battles was fated to happen.

Literally memed into existence
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>>569846326
>>569849269
We already have asians in 40k. What else could Cathay even add?
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ASOIAF TW when?
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>>569852267
never please and thank you
of course M3 will have a mod for it though
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>>569852337
>never please and thank you
Why? ASOIAF would be 3K tier in terms of iconic characters they could fill the game with. It would probably be interesting just for the politics system alone.
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>>569852471
just a big fucking waste man, CA should spend their resources making M3 as good as they can and then that way things like ASOFAI and LOTR or even fucking Redwall can build off it and be exponentially better than the base game

more with less than less with more
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>>569852601
Well Med 3 is coming first regardless and I want that too.
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FANTA SISSIES FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

t. F A N T A S I S S I C V S
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>>569852676
and the overhaul mods that build off it will be legendary. don't you worry, you will get a game of thrones mod eventually
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If they showed the new gameplay already what is ca counting down on their armageddon teaser? A new cinematic trailer?
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>>569853279
Don't be fooled, everything CA shows is AI
you can't know the finished product until you can buy it with money
grace is a WHORE
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>>569853358
A bit too much groodge anger you're holding on there, it's not good for you, But yes it is good to be cautious, I remember Rome 2's promo material and launch.
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>>569809728
/tg/ is already seething over this because it looks like TW will actually influence the tabletop lore with Armageddon campaign
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Why was I going to lose the AR on this? Slaanesh is always a faction of jobbers.
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>>569854534
LL autoresolve bias
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>>569846326
>eventually
>what are Tau
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>>569849867
>>Marines
>Biggest issue will be anti marine wank followed by sectarianism (IE hating space wolves, even if I hate space wolves)
The game hasn't even released and glupus shitus over here is already running damage control and complaining about antis, can't make this shit up
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>Fantasy has aircraft units but not 40k
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>>569855063
He's completely right, at least 50% of spez muhreen slapfights are initiated by people seethingly bringing them up out of nowhere. This is true of Tau as well.
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>>569849867
WH1 had four and a half factions at launch and WH2 had four, if 40k has major problems it won't come from having four factions to choose from at launch.
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Campaign spotting is an extremely disappointing mechanic. Makes ambush stance totally useless post turn 15 when agents are running around everywhere
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>>569818014
The 40k announcement gave me schadenfreude toward all the people responding to you hating 40k, and the replies reminded me of how good it feels to be right that 40k was inevitable.
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>>569853279
it was counting down to this showcase
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>>569855183
Don't use third person to talk about yourself, anon.
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>>569856339
I'm sure you'll come up with some cope.
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>>569854814
not cathay
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Anyone get into the beta yet?
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>>569832508
stfu you elagabalus
this is a PONTIC general
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>>569854534
>No cav on Slaanesh
You would stomp them. This sausige snakes would die before they can hurt you
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PONTUS?????
MORE LIKE PENUS
LMAOOOOOOOO
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I'm not going to bother caring about 40k until like 2 years after it launches when it's actually playable.

When are they opening up Ind and Khuresh on Immortal Empires and adding waifubait dragon (blue)?
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>>569846326
let's go!
Yamnin Volunteer bros, we're finally gonna make it!
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>>569857941
rape
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>>569857941
consensual sex
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>>569857323
yeah im playing rn
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>>569857941
karl franz pov
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CoverCHADS eternally victorious while napoleonicblocknancies stay seething.
>but muh art/muh tabletop say-
Artistic license and concessions to gameplay, you dumbass mongoloid uncs. You lost, deal with it.
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>>569858692
CA's cover mechanics are from Empire/Napoleon though.
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Name one real life battle where cover mattered
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>>569858037
Nice try, here is what will really happen

Golden Dragons of Yuèliang (Luna)
A Secret Chapter descended from the Emperor himself!

Role : Hunting down Chaos Space Marines to restore Harmony to the Imperium.

Unique Traits: All Psykers, capable of Cultivation lasting centuries allowing feats not even the Primarchs are capable of.

Dark History: Responsible for the creation of the Tau Ethereal Caste.
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>>569858995
Russo-Ukrainian War, otherwise the population of global Slav will plummet.
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>>569802461
I swear, if Eldars just use the same jumping animation than human i'm goign to crash out.
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>>569859016
Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a risotto recipe.
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>>569857941
ntr
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>>569859297
There won't even be reload animations in game, again
>>569858692
You people do realize, there is literal actual zero difference between this and Empire. I'm pretty sure those are even fence hopping animations straight lifted from Empire:TW.

This showcase showed cover because people wanted it, but you will deploy your units without cover and move them around in blocks as normal. And can make your Guardsmen shoot without cover, just like Handgunners, when there is no cover available and such open field locations will be plentiful. Everything is constant here from first trailer, to interview last month to yesterday's one. You can even see both IG and Orks move in blocks out in the open here and fight like this as well.
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That footage was nice, especially the gore. Excited to have a TW with proper gibbing.
But I also can't help but lel that it 1000% confirmed that most factions are going to function as infantry blocks. Years and years of "40k tw would never work because they're in squads!" squashed by GW itself blessing a game where the blob armies fight in blobs.
That said I'm still not sure how to feel about the game on launch. The potential is of course massive but I'm not looking forward to the first few months at least of:
>Captain, we've arrived at the planet.. it's filled with Orks! We must purge them!!
>Captain, we've arrived at the planet.. it's filled with Feral Guardsmen! We must purge them!!
>Captain, we've arrived at the planet.. it's filled with Feral Eldar! We must purge them!!
It'll really need about 3 DLCs to properly come online.
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as someone who did not pick up Warhammer Total War until 3 and all of its new race DLCs were out, I genuinely can't imagine how fucking empty 40k is going to feel when there's literally nothing but spess muhreens, IG, orks and eldar. Who gives a fuck when you're fighting the same 4 races over and over, and 1/4 of them are mirror matches
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>they forgot to put some Cadian under covers
OH NO NO NO! ANTI-NAPOLEONIC SCHIZO GET DOWN! DO NOT LOOK!
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>>569860741
Don't forget that the modding scene will also need some time to get started. When everyone was disappointed with the TWW3 launch, many just jumped back to TWW2 or any older TW.
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this line warfare/cover sperging might be the dumbest argument this general has ever had
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>>569860356
>>569860741
It really wasn't that bad with the initial 4 races in Warhammer 1, because it was all brand new.
The same will happen here, I'll have to play a whole fucking lot to even tire of using a single race in this game, hell I still play the kangz and they had no update like the others since their launch.

Another thing is the wargear selection, this will keep factions fresh for way longer.
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Am I crazy or does this look like Macha
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>>569861294
Could be since Biel Tan has no playable named characters on TT atm
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>>569861294
Blurry as shit but my mind is seeing her DoW3 appearance in the clouds
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>>569861294
It really does look like her render from DoW3, which was based off /tg/ memes
Makes sense since Ulthwe will have Eldrad, but for Biel-Tan she would be the best choice
Fulfills Female LL quota as well, which will be even harder than in TWW for CA to achieve. At least they can put niggers everywhere, so they will embrace it
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>>569861294
it is most definitely her
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>All Eldars looks the same according to Mon'keigh
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>>569861215
>because it was all brand new.
People tend to forget this, I'm sure until the 4 initial races get boring, there'll be at least 2 new DLC ones, by that time.
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>>569861294
she cute doe
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>both DoW 4 and TWW40K beta release in september
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>DOW clone
>every game is now a siege map
>with TCALUK pathfinding code
it's looking very grim for us, 40ksissies
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>>569861547
>>569861610
>>569861757
Is it true they are sisters?
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>>569861294
Can they even use Macha as she is a Dawn of War IP character ?
asking the question even if I know Titus was used in other video game and in tabeltop
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>>569861215
>It really wasn't that bad with the initial 4 races in Warhammer 1, because it was all brand new.
Right now we don't know much about the campaign modes for 40kTW but consider the following:
1. WH1 releases with 5 factions on launch with clearly defined theaters of war, a medium 40kTW campaign sounds like you're fighting on a pseudo-randomly generated planet.
2. If you were playing a "good" faction (humans and dwarfs) you knew other human and dwarf NPCs were nominal allies and very rarely were they enemies. So much so that outside of retards like Ziflin you had to instigate most wars against them. Right now half the launch factions are supposed to be on the same side.
3. WH1 had a fairly clear endgame of "stop the Everchosen!" so you had something to focus on besides map-painting as it united the order factions while giving the orcs and vampires some breathing room. What will 40kTW have? Randomly generated McGuffins you need to steal from an RNG-determined faction? Because in that case your spess mahreens are killing Imperials 50% like you're in a Temu Horus Heresy.
For what it's worth this directionless is also a major complaint of mine for WH3 but at least it DOES have about 20 factions running around to give it variety, which is what I'm mostly bitching about.
4. Expectations for it were relatively low compared to 40k's hype. So I expect people to be more impatient about it as well.
#4 is also a compounding factor why I think Sofia has several character packs lined up for WH3. The 40k team is going to be pressed like fuck to shit out CSM and whoever is coming afterwords to spice things up so Sofia pushing out small but quick packs for brand engagement between those releases makes sense to me.
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>>569861547
>Fulfills Female LL quota as well, which will be even harder than in TWW for CA to achieve
It's kinda funny how despite always being portrayed as egalitarian and having lots of female models on the tabletop basically right from the start literally none of the major Eldar leaders were female until Yvraine came along and she got unceremoniously shoved into the cuck shed in record time.

Also if it is Taldeer and CA gets her original VA back I'm never going to be able to unhear Princess Celestia.
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>>569862194
They can of GW allows it. Just like it's a whole new studio making DoW 4. The characters aren't bound to Relic.
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>>569862207
>The 40k team is going to be pressed like fuck to shit out CSM
I don't think so, if you haven't noticed, WH DLC is coming at a snail's pace for a reason... The 40k DLC team is already at work.
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>>569862194
I imagine as the ultimate owner of everything cooked up in a Warhammer video game they can use whoever from wherever as long as GW greenlights it.
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>>569861859
DoW4 is going to be a disaster
devs are already coping, they'll blame total war and DoW1fags for the flop
imagine giving this sort of interview as if a remaster didn't release just last year kek
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>>569861459
Truly the most tertiary histoid comment in the thread. Go play another campaign of rome2
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>>569862595
>rome2
brown esl-coded
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>>569862595
NTA but Biel-Tan categorically does not have any named special characters on the tabletop in the current version of the game you faglord.
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>>569863207
>most militaristic craftworld with full of aspect warriors, where autarchs and exarchs in charge
>leaded by farseer
Anyway, we have Eldrad already
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>>569863417
but he's from Ulthwé
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>>569757545
watching the intervriew thing
>only one iconic place to start
CADIA???
>armageddon
are u kidding me
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>>569863543
>Cadia
>Armageddon
>Macragge/Ultramar
>Terra/Mars
What else? GW is just being lazy as usual.
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>>569863543
>Cadia
>a place
Pick one!
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>>569862595
What he said was correct retard, they have lore characters, but no playable named Biel-Tan characters on tabletop 40K. Macha is the only popular Biel Tan vidya character.
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>>569863543
>CADIA
Anon....
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>>569863680
>>569863805
i mean the story campaign CAN cover past events
you're telling me the armageddon war is still going?
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>>569862275
That's because most Eldar craftworlds are lead by Farseer's and that's the one path that female Eldar try to avoid.
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>>569863887
This is the 4th war of armageddon, anon.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fourth_War_for_Armageddon
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>>569863207
>>569863737
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>>569863887
>armageddon war is still going?
Anon, take a look at the eleventh edition box, quickly. GW is making this game about the most current narrative going on tabletop.
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>>569863954
nobody cares about Ynnari
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>>569863887
>you're telling me the armageddon war is still going?
Silly anon, the new edition box set is literally Armageddon war:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hjdxp86f/saturday-pre-orders-warhammer-40000-armageddon/
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Why are they hiding the Eldar?
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>>569863954
mon-keigh fuckers get the fucking rope
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>>569863954
Her entire schtick is Ynnari combining some of the Drukhari and Craftworlder (plus corsair and harlequin but you could take those anyway) rosters in a custom list. She is not liked by Biel Tan and not affiliated with them, she is dedicated to her death cult's goals. Do you even play the TT or read her lore?
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>>569864117
Probably still way unfinished, the game probably isn't due out for almost an entire year from now.
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>>569864117
>>569864365
not a launch faction
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>>569864294
>mad lorelet didnt even realize where the main eldar character was from and has a melty
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>>569864382
Why do you retards keep saying this
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>>569864382
That would be suicide + CA already discussed how their faction mechanics work in interviews back around the announcement.
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Any advice for Rakarth WH3 Immortal Empires campaign? I play on Hard, right now cause I got bored of 3 previous Normal campaigns with other factions

Here is my issue - after conquering the starting province, I am unsure what to do. To the north there is the Mask of Slaneesh faction the the Beastmen, but they seem too strong and also after conquering the southernmost starting province settlement I have to take 3 turns to get there
So the most natural target is the Tomkings faction to the south. But they have a full stack and a 16 unit strong garrison and they do not move from there. I tried defeating them like that with a siege, it was too much for me, can't do it
tried luring them out with raiding and what not, they just sit there, and these are precious turns wasted too

And then there is this quest for confederating with Karond Kar which has you capture 2500 captives and it fails by like turn 7... how tf do I do that, after the initial province conquest I have only 600. Do I sack everything? So that is another reason I can't wait, unless I don't care about failing that.
what to do in this camapign?
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>>569864421
because they were relevant 30 years ago they aren't anymore, it'll probably be img guard, space marines, orkz, chaos at launch, eldar among first expansions
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Why would people even assume there would be no cover? We had that shit since Napoopan and Empire.
I am more concerned about units' ability to navigate tight streets, turn corners and not fuck up lines of fire. Because from what I saw, the 40k units are just handgunners (assault rifles).
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For me it's Iyanden.
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>>569864465
it wouldn't be suicide only old fans give a shit about the eldar still
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>>569864478
There's an Eldar featuring prominently in the promotional art along with Guard, Marines and Orks.
>>569864509
>Why would people even assume there would be no cover? We had that shit since Napoopan and Empire.
You mean it was in Napoopan and Empire then completely disappeared from every game released since.
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>>569864478
Bro, all the launch factions are listed on the steam page. Stop being retarded.
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>>569864707
so the only opfor faction will be orks? wtf lol
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>>569864779
play as orks until faction unlocker gives us chaos (rebels)
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Loli. Legendary. Lords.
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>>569862543
The Blood Ravens were done dirty

Dark Angels steal their spotlight in Dawn of War then in TW40k the Ultrasmurfs take centerstage once again
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>>569864779
>play orks
>get four opfor factions
Proppa kunnin'.
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>>569864779
Chaos isn't part of the current Armageddon narrative and the launch version seems to trying to recreate it.
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>>569863954
bruh what happened to her hair
I hope she got a refund from her stylist
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>>569865165
She was a gladiator among the dark eldar. That's one of the traditional combat shaves they have.
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>hit and run
>stealth
>teleport around with units that would get steamrolled and assraped in a direct confrontation
does anyone actually enjoy this type of gameplay? Eldar was like the lamest faction in dawn of war, completely outclassed by T'au chads in ranged and every other faction in close ranged, only thing they had was rat gameplay and the teleporting building thing
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You think they'll accept anyone for the closed beta or do you need some youtube clout
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just enrolled
if I'm selected I will be sharing all gameplay features and webms with this thread
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>>569865487
Eldar are all about maximizing your specialist troops which are better in what they do than other faction equivalents.
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>>569865720
Muhreen can do that better at TT
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>>569865894
Bro the different eldar flavours win every 40k tourney since the game was first published. They are the most disgustingly OP factions in the TT in each edition. Marines wish they had their versatility.
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Was there any news about Warhammer 3 in that thing yesterday?
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>>569866164
Lol. Lmao, even
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40k more like 40 bad
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>>569866164
No.
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>>569863532
Yes, ulthwe will be leaded by farseer, biel tan will be leaded by autarch or high-elected exarch
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ESL here.
So Armageddon will be the only "teater of war" / narrative campaign ? I thought the map was galaxy ?
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looks like they are treating the imperium ad a single 'race' instead of space marines, guard, etc
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>>569867123
it will be the campaign/story mode I believe, the other galaxy mode is the "sandbox"
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Byzantines will be the most OP faction in Medieval 3
it's what my sources tell me, CA thinks masturbating to Medieval Greek polities is the kind of stuff histoids are into
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>>569867189
I reckon Armageddon is going to be kind of like the tutorial/prologue campaign from WH3.
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>>569867123
Assuming GW didn't forget, they can add Ultramar and The Maelstorm too.
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>>569867241
But will they get the roof tiles right?
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>>569867123
Armageddon will most likely be the center for events in the launch version.
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>>569867297
no, and Medieval 3 will flop with overwhelmingly negative reviews after rooftilegate
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>>569867241
Only emperors worth a damn like Justinian were native Latin speakers, when the gayreeks took real control of the empire it went to total shit, gay orgies while we pay off the horsenigs with ancient coffers to not assrape us
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>>569862275
40k really is a complete sasuagefest, which wasn't a problem all those decades ago, but is now
WHFB too to lesser extent and but it was killed before they could "fix it". Still they managed to squeeze in shit like stronk wymyn of Nuln who needs no Magic Collage and now of course they started to mutilate it too since it's back.

This is why Empire was cucked out of a FLC LL in TWW1, I remember it plain as day how Grace excused Isabella, that she was needed so TWW can have Female LL. Same with Clyostra being added instead of Vangheist, in order to represent people of all shapes and sizes.

But 40k basically doesn't have women. All Marines and their Chaos counterparts are all male. Orks, Necrons and Nids and even minor xenos like Kroot have no actual females. Eldar could have, but GW always only made males for them anyway, save for a single unit of Banshees. SoB were only females in setting really. Which is why Imperial Guard has to bear the full force of DEI quotas for the entire setting for so long

Which is why I expect for characters like Macha to be in as well. It really can be Macha. That way they will have at least 1 female LL in game. It's honestly not that different from why DoW made all Farseers female, but they did it for variety sake back then.
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>>569863887
Armageddon is constantly under siege since it's a chokepoint next to Terra. If Orks conquer it, they are free to attack Terra.
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>>569867569
so Ghazghkull is still doing his waagh? he's been at it for decades I think, dude was in the main char in all dawn of wars
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>>569867241
wtf capelin betrayed us by claiming the gayreeks were romans, does madison know of this?
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>>569867493
>reads entire thread
>some gender wars trash is what xe replies to
just go back
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>>569867123
Galaxy is meta progression system, not actual campaign map
You select different campaigns which you will actually play on a galactic map
Armageddon is the first premade campaign. Others are 4x generated ones for an infinite replay value
>>569867175
Those are probably Alliances like Order of Battle GW does
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All Eldarbros will get a craftworld mandated howling banshee GF.
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>>569867712
capelin is a fujoshitter
Mermaidison shouldn't hang out with that kind of woman if she values her sanity
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>>569867852
asked AI to summarize that text since I cba to read it all
On a strategic level, players manage armies across entire planets instead of traditional continents, capturing outposts and hive cities while having the option to use orbital bombardments or planet-destroying Exterminatus attacks. On the tactical level, real-time battles emphasize physical, close-quarters combat alongside guns and tanks, introducing a highly realistic cover system and completely destructible urban environments where falling skyscrapers and chaotic physics affect factions differently based on their unique playstyles.
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>>569867935
madison's also a fujoshitter based on her insane output of achilles/patroclus posting
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>>569867706
In DoWs you had Gorgutz, not Ghazghkull. Gorgutz is basically DoW version of Ghazghkull so they can do with him whatever they want
>>569867840
Diversity quotas are extremely important and are directly responsible for what's put in a game. They can't put females into Orks or Marines. That leaves Guard and Eldar. But Guard already is confirmed to have at least one male LL - Yarrick. This makes it extremely likely that Eldar will get Female LL, which makes Macha very, very likely, even if it's wasteful for Biel-Tan to get a Farseer as a LL
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>>569868039
maybe, but she also started flirting with Volound so it might have been just an act
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>>569868174
oh fuck gorgutz, yeah, is that guy still around in canon lore? i guess
blood ravens are my favorite chapter just from growing up with dawn of war
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>>569868174
>diversity quotas are extremely important
go back
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>>569868303
Anon, these are two British companies we're talking about. They're legally obligated to put that stuff in any form of media they happen to create, it's a literal checklist.
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>>569867861
Yummers
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>>569867493
>Eldar could have, but GW always only made males for them anyway, save for a single unit of Banshees.
Guardians have had female models in the box since 3rd edition (and possibly earlier but I'm not terribly familiar with 2nd and RT model ranges) and female aspect warriors/warlocks/farseers/etc. show up all the time in writing - including the little snippets of lore within the army books themselves - so IMO it's a little odd that GW didn't use the latest round of kit refreshes to add female sculpts to a bunch of the aspect warrior kits at least.
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>armageddon is the only planet in 40k
Dead on arrival
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>>569868561
Armageddon is the ongoing theater of war in the release version. The entire galaxy will be in the game on launch but dynamic events will only be in the Armageddon theater of war on release.
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>>569868448
go post about it on a different website nigger
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>>569868301
He is in DoW4 again, so yeah
>>569868303
Stop being retarded
It's a plain fact no matter if you want it or not. And that makes Macha a safe bet now. 40k is a sasuagefest so they will have to squeeze every inch out places where they can put female LLs

I can see it being
>SM
Calgar
Tor Garadon because Imperial Fists Chapter Master is a literal who without model, but IF are generic Marines without dlc potential
>IG
Yarrick
Ursula Creed
>Orks
Ghazghkull
Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub
>Eldar
Macha
Eldrad
>>569868561
It's entire system most likely
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>all this talk
I just want end times to give me a good narrative campaign, man. 40k isn't going to be good for like years. Although the closed beta is tempting.
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>>569867493
TRVKE post especially the Isabella part but unfortunately /twg/ is overrun with pesudoledditors who dont like being reminded of the reality of CA
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the great rat empire WILL fall
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>>569868808
Bro you can't leak gameplay from the Leagues of Votan!
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>>569869090
Make sure to enlist the umgi hilfswilliger when you launch operation barbarossa agains the eternal r*t
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Yin-Yin SEX
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>>569868768
Since using VCO it is hard to play without it. It seems like CA realizes how fun narrative campaigns are though from the press they have put out. Also they surely noticed VCO is the most popular mod.
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>>569869328
But the small Bulgarian team will be put on overtime.
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>>569869328
Discounting Mixer and MCM which are 1 and 2 and Better Camera Mod which is 3, Recruit Defeated Legendary Lords is actually the most popular WH3 mod. R*dious is also in there somewhere.
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>>569869506
how about SFO?
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Has anyone ever went full Under-empire and kept expansion low? It seems so ass compared to Deeps or even Slaanesh cults
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its coming...
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>>569869598
Checking now it's higher than Radious, actually right below Recruit Defeated Legendary Lords at 5. Thank god some people have taste. Radious is actually lower than I thought at 11.
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Am I the only one who does not think that DOW4 and TW40k compete with each other at all? They are totally different games. It feels like people only compare them as a means to attack one or the other.
Not genuine.
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>>569869735
Shut up and just play along, anon.
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>>569869735
I will play both regardless but I understand the comparison, if you're a normie just into 40k
>you can buy two RTS 40k games
>you have to pick one
unpopular opinion but I think dawn of war 2 was so incredibly boring, like holy shit, it plays like a moba but its so incredibly slow paced and lame, bad game imo, haven't even played 3
hoping 4 is more like 1
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>>569869698
Turn 193
Anon, your commitment and determination is rather legendary around these parts.
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>>569869820
Longer than most campaigns played by the player base, that's for sure.
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>>569869820
malakai got pushed around all earlygame I couldn't do anything... I gotta keep going just to spite the vermin and chaos
my avg campaign length is like 130 turns tho this is way past that but I've never had the world in this shit a state as order
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>>569869938
Uh, I think that you are at war with Teclis and Aislinn. Elves are supposed to be our friends.
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>>569870147
i always try to friend up all order factions unless they make my borders ugly, but they declared due to my alliance with arkhan, what can u do...
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>>569869735
There are differences yeah, base building most notably. But DoW4 will die since RTS is a dead genre
People will play cinematic campaigns once and then uninstall
Kings Art know this so they remade Dark Crusade campaign as a discount TW mode for it, but obviously nobody will play that over TW campaign
They have the time until TW40k releases
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>>569870275
>since RTS is a dead genre
*blocks your path*
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Schematics from Nan-Gau
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3723969862
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>Load up Total War warhammer 40k.
>Main menu shows the galactic conflict before you can click off it.
>Your faction is always loosing.
How do you cope?
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>>569869328
VCO isn't even a narrative campaign. It's close, but it's more like a targeted sandbox. i have very high hopes for end times to play something like a changeling campaign with better layout for factions or even forced stages so kislev isn't wiped by skaven or chaos dwarves by turn 30.
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>>569870434
It doesn't
It's one of 3 multiplayer RTS which live, because RTS only and solely have replay value in multiplayer. The other being Starcraft and CoH. DoW4 has zero chance to develop MP community so it's one trick pony which will day once players beat those linear cinematic campaigns
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>>569870838
but so what
not every game has to be live service
if it does well on release with a great campaign its enough to carry it
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>>569870838
>. DoW4 has zero chance to develop MP community
It is not impossible. also rts sometimes does well. People liked dows risk style map and everyone enjoyed bfmes war of the ring mode.
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>>569870791
My faction is always losing in For Honor's meta war and I never particularly cared.
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>charts posting
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broke my alliance with arkhan because he kept fucking with the elves, but kislev are his allies and they're pissed, after so much grooming I did to turn em into a power
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>>569867493
>Same with Clyostra being added instead of Vangheist
Cylostra is fun thoughbeit.
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>>569869663
>Has anyone ever went full Under-empire and kept expansion low?
I don't even know how to use the Under-empire tbqhwy anon.
Always seems like it isn't really worth the investment.
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>>569870932
>but so what
>not every game has to be live service
It means that devs will have to abandon it since there is no playerbase to milk. DoW4 won't fulfill it's potential and won't get all factions
>>569870993
>People liked dows risk style map and everyone enjoyed bfmes war of the ring mode.
Yeah, those exists because devs realized that linear cinematic campaigns have no future in strategy games and started pivoting away. Now RTS evolved into separate different genres, TW and Paradox games being most obvious, with highest replyability
Soren Johnson was right
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>>569871807
the singleplayer playerbase will come back for story DLC
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>>569872290
>>569872290
>>569872290
>>569872290
>>569872290
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>>569871875
didn't save Iron Harvest. Cinematic campaigns have far lesser value than faction you can use in endless sandbox campaigns
Without sizeable constant, concurrent playerbase game dies, marketing dies, word of mouth is gone. 4chan generals die, subreddits become ghost towns. No memes are being made and spread out around web, no modders, no shillfluencers to shill your game. People forget your game. It's a death sentence
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>>569870791
I play eldar
It would be weird to see it winning
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>>569870995
>he didn't join vikings for the free seasonal rewards



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