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If you marry Micaela, you're marrying your mom, too.
Kill Hiruko. Hurt Hiruko. Peel Hiruko. Refuse to eat Hiruko. Dropkick Hiruko. Burn Hiruko.Compliment Hiruko on her fashion sense.
>You like this, don't you?>Pervert onii-chanIf Hiruko in humanoid form counts as monster girl, can we count Kazuya's sister?She's cute!
I absolutely love my beautiful daughterwife Mini!
I Love Reina!
What do we think of girls with big fat tails?
>>569833567fluffy tails are cute, of course.
The Micaela and foxes options from the poll are submitted and accepted. The Micaela one is going to be by https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/94037210 who has done several great works before, so I'm looking forward to it. The Fox one is indeed all the foxes and may have cost me 1.5 months worth of skeb funds so I desperately hope it turns out well. It is going to be by https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1340455The last one with BDSM Lucifina will be on hold until around August/September.
>>569828653Human lolis count as monster girls.
>johnny genuinely boring>faggot existence
>>569841896>happy deadA shikibuss' husband typed that.
>>569841896>>569842405>shiki feels wife
>>569842405>>569842563I wish I had a Shiki wife. Why is the world is so unfair?
>>569842563>>569843651I wish Shikis were real
>>569829293>>569830223I wish Harpies were real
>>569845942>>569846174So a Shiki Harpy
Did you know? They used to call unpleasant human women "harpies"
>>569846682I wonder if vixen is related to foxes...That means both birds and foxes are evil!
Total Shiki Death.Total Harpy Life.
>>569845942>>569846174I wish Humans were real
>>569846936Isn't it cool how there's a BASED AND HEAVENLY alternate world out there where the exact opposite is predominantly true?
>>569847030Nominally "Human" Girls!
>>569847036Total You Death.
>>569846429Here's your Shiki Harpy bro.
>>569848182That's a phoenix.
>>569848182You mean Shiki Namielle.
>>569848264Phoenixes are just stronger, less shitty harpies.
>>569848783'Kay I'll call the harpy mafia.
Should all monsters (including lolis) be taller than their prey (male humans)Y/N
>>569850946no they should all be smaller
>>569851045So they'd be a parasite.
>>569851430That's what loli and shota are.
>>569848783>>569848982Objection! Harpies and phoenixes are friends and would never fight like that.
>>569852329But Your Honor, he said that Phoenixes are>just stronger, lss shitty harpies.It's rude!
I just got a terrifying idea. If you redo Part MW, AW and CW, does that mean you can farm the Ultra, Hyper and Divine gems?Is there a psycopath who did that?
Can Ilias create a penis she can't rape?
What do you guys think of the updated Tier List?https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/Companion_Tier_List
>>569868862Opinions opinions.The likes of Zion get on the list because she's the earlygame carry of one of part 3 branches but behemoths like Aji Dahaka and Son Wukong are ignored. Hmmmph
>>569870706Zion does make a good impression, but I figured she didn't really deserve to be that high.>Azi Dahaka>Son WukongThey aren't that that good. Unless I'm missing something about their chaining.Except Son's abs.
>>569864953Luka
>>569868862Seems like this tier list is based on speed running.
In “The Search of my Maid Within a Book”Anyone knows if there is anything with Maestra after her boss fight? Her sprite has the event bubble but I get nothing from talking to her.
>>569868862Looks pretty good. Tier lists are weird. Certain characters aren't available until very late in the game, and then when you hit post game what's the point since Chaos can just one shot everything.
>>569848783Phoenixes ARE Harpies, though!Harpies are Harpies, and Harpies are Great!>>569868862>The highest up Harpy on the list is still Reina and she kept her spotI guess that didn't change lol
>>569882469Fighting the superboss version of Chaos is fun at least
>>569868862Eurebetie is a better Kanade than Kanade. Kind of funny how a majority of the Archangels and Ancestors ultimately came out as dissapointments for the meta game.
>>569884634The most important meta is double action meta. Anyone who gets to act two times in one turn (which means double chains and double damage) like Erubetie Kanade, Trinity Eden or Lilith Origin is automatically better than anyone else. Which is kind of funny because >>569868862 doesn't even mention several of those characters in their tier list and they should all be SSS rank.
>>569868862You need two tier lists. An endgame tier list and a level tier list. Some characters are really good when you get them but they fall later in part 2 or part 3. And then some characters are pretty mid but up getting a buff in part 3. And then once you hit endgame many characters that might have been good even in late part 3 are basically dumpster tier.
>I am still unwilling to re-experience the adventure without having at the bare minimum My Wife Reina at the lead and the four other core harpies present, because I just love them too much and can't leave them behind.>It turns out unbeknownst to me this was actually protecting all of them>Had suspected that if Lucretia and Reflestia weren't in the party they would be present fighting an Aprio>My suspicion was half-right>It's actually Lucretia and Reina>And Aprio forces Reina to watch as one of her bodies drags Chirp into the abyss while the other prevents her from saving themI've learned two thingsFirstly everyone was either kind enough not to inform me that this happens or didn't have the heartSecondly Reina breaking trtr's anticipated agility-cap predictions and out-prioritying Aprio so she could completely bypass the gimmick of the fight and throttle the rabbit with her bare fucking talons has become significantly more satisfying in hindsight (and it was already immeasurably satisfying)And Chirp, comparatively, being completely helpless just in that one fight has also become surprisingly appropriate.heck maybe having Reina and Co. redo the opening of the route wasn't even that out of place after all but I suppose I'm just thankful that the Harpy Quest will protect them. They banded together to save the world and have found hapiness, and that's what matters.
>>569886732We are going to pretty have to wait and see what NG++, the awakenings, the additional recruits, and the updated LoC is going to be.The current game does not match up with the player's power.
One of these days I'll actually get off my ass and play part 3 instead of doing useless shit like studying and working nine to five.
>>569887997You'll get to it someday anon, even if it's just like a couple hours every now and then.>>569887735If there's one thing that's nice, it's that I'm getting to see a lot of new art for Mini that I've never seen before. She has a lot of fun interactions, and she's just adorable!>>569859591I think this actually would work for most of them. Even if they do not stack with each other, it would let you put them onto other girls, and some of them are just boss drops or castle loot, so it would make sense you could get repeats of them. The only one I'm not sure about would be the Divine Racial Gems, obtained from doing the final tier of the race only cups, I don't remember if starting NG+ resets all the rewards for the colosseum or not.Because of how the gem system works though I think the only kind of person who would actually benefit from doing something like this and trying to get copies of them all would be someone who was doing a race-only team of girls and as thus had a lot of them who were running the same kind of gameplan. Reina's gem arrangement allowed her to hit in the quadrillions despite having barely any proofs and spending most of the final route in only two tier five jobs, whereas every other fan/wing damage based girl couldn't really keep up with her because there's just only one copy of most of those gems she was using.And she gets them because she's the Harpyoine and also I Love Reina.
>>569889776the second of those was meant for >>569852329 forgive me I must have been birdbrained
>>569885812Yeah, but even in that tiny list of characters, there is still a gap in power.Kanade Erubetie is a given, but Eden Trinity is so much better than Lilith Orgin it shows that TrTr has serious issues balancing out his game, even when he tries to make some levels of parity between rivals
>>569852329i understand why people made bobblehead jokes now
>>569894212What? You finally realize Phoenix girls start off as chickens first?
>>569833567More fluff to huff
>>569878374They do mention LoC, for what little it's worth since you will roll on it no matter what character your team and builds. What surprises me is that Mitsuko and Awawa are still there.>>569882469Just wait until Chaos Goddess Black Alice is there. Of Father of Chaos. This is going to be an orgy.>>569883609Can't beat the bird. Nope. Dance and Singing are just that great. I'm actually surprised they are that low.>>569884634It's not surprising. Erubetie Kanade has access to Two Action per turn, this mean that even without chains she can spam Throwing skills to tank and do something else..Which make me wonder why Eden Trinity and Lilith Origin aren't there. Especially Eden Trinity.Multiple actions and Damage per Missing -%HP have was always the meta.Poor Magical Girl Granberia, who lost the Crisis Trait, but still remain powerful, if the sidequest didn't make you think that Magical Girl power was dope, this will.>>569885812To be fair, tier lists are partially a game of comparison
>S tierGirls I want to fuck and marry >F tier Girls I don't
>>569905351It should be the opposite, because S is for Suck, and F is for Fuck.
>>569905674Formerly Salice and Falice
>>569906174That's a Fallacy
>>569906703https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>569906919https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
>>569890680>TrTr has serious issues balancing out his gameLook of they massacred my boys Quadruple Giga, and Magic King... Seriously, Quadruple Giga and Ex-Tuple are so not worth the hassle, and Duodecuple is so underpowered and lack Kirin and Butterfly. Ironnically, the best part is Duodecuple giving you two more turns,
>>569907570to be fair, quadruple giga felt not super useful in the original game, even. It needing 4 full turns to charge was always going to be extremely hard to balance when you can end fights in less turns than that
>>569907758It was only usable in like 4 fights there, Imp, Tamamo, Granberia, and Ilias.
>>569908526It always felt weird to me that tamamo hyped quadruple giga up as this super dangerous technique that monster lords NEED to know to be prepared against and you just look inside and every time luka's used it the person he's used it on has just kinda stood there
>>569908684Heroes are prone to revving up Quadruple Gigas during the unskippable Monster Lord monologue pre fight.
>>569908884this is only a problem against monsters lords like alice 16th who only have a single phase, monster lords like black alice who have multiple forms would activate a cutscene and therefore would only let it skip their first form
>>569907758That is true. But we aren't in the original game, we are in the future!More seriously: I wonder about that. I'm not asking the Quadruple or Extuple to have 10000 Power, but... Duodecuple only does damage and summon the four main spirits instead of actually the 12 spirit you got, not even with Kirin and Butterfly included, for so little damage, It feel like such a let letdown you know? Especially when Dimensional Severance and Fist of Creation exists.We really need a better name for Dimensional Severance.>>569908684To be fair, it IS supposed to be an absurdly powerful skill if anything. A Monster Lord sitting her pretty perky fat ass in her castle is definitely going to be a victim of it.
>>569908684>tamamo hyped quadruple giga up as this super dangerous technique that monster lords NEED to know to be prepared againstthat's because a REAL hero had previously demonstrated exactly why
>>569910825To be fair, it was Black Alice. Black Alice isn't... the best person in the world.
>>569910825so like did she just stand there and take like like granberia or is the implication is that heinrich can move around with it like granberia can and luka is just a chud
>>569905013Dancing/Singing are great indeed!>I'm actually surprised they are that lowTo be fair, it's just a matter of her role.She's still the single best dancer in the game because she aged very well and keeps her unique combination of traits (no new girl was added with the combination of priority/cost reduction/ailment bonus), and ailments aged surprisingly well since she can effortlessly cripple anything with a status weakness for easy conditionals to abuse if she didn't just auto-win from instant death or petrification effects. Even in the final dungeon, she can reliably stunlock endgame enemies since her innate bonus stacks with other sources and then makes them take +200% from whoever hits them next. A lot of new abilities only made her even better at abusing this too; Vast Galaxy Dance in particular is hilariously strong in her wings even without her having a natural damage bonus. And since anything that's immune to ailments starts also being immune to stats down and corruption/stigmata she doesn't really even need weakening dance by the time she gets it (even if she's the best user of it once she does have it).But Reina is ultimately just the best 'support' dancer who's also good at singing by proxy due to getting to chain it off her natural priority. And sure she can win encounters by herself pretty easily now, but considering how easy it is to also make Luka just one-hit-kill every single encounter and boss fight WITHOUT the postgame costume, her meta slot for LOC will just be as a buffer to make Luka and Alice or others even stronger (most likely Alice since she prefers agility).I've seen comments overseas about how strong she remained even in the final route and honestly I never expected her to get higher on the list, she just deserved to keep her spot and I'm glad that she did. She's probably one of the few Part 1 girls who didn't get overtaken by powercreep, even if it's ultimately just for a support niche.It just makes me hapy.
>>569910825You know, I'm starting to wonder if Tamamo actually educate the Monster Lords or not.
>>569914731She did, monsters are just dumb and evil
>>569890680Part 1 and early Part 2 was the most balanced it ever got. Conditionals were the point things started to go downhill, but nightmares were so overpowered he went out of the way to kneecap them for all the important bosses in the final route, and the addition of chaos elements and auto-hit turning from the holy/dark special thing into it's own distinct damage category, etc; you can tell he clearly believed there needed to be a constant escalation of power, and by the time he was finished the game was so broken that most players decided it would be easier to go out of the way to max proofs and use crisis builds to cheese all the fights, rather than do things the "correct" and "intended" way that trtr had hoped everyone would be playing. He genuinely believed "just equip a shield" was good advice for defensive playstyles after he rendered the main defensive strategy for 99% of the players completely unusable, like that wouldn't just exacerbate things and make even more people go for one turn kills. And then ironically people did equip shields, solely just so they could use Single Weapon Master, because it gave even stronger boosts and made it even easier to get one turn kills.He unbalanced his game so badly that he made no one want to engage with his combat system anymore. The ruler was him realizing he had made the whole thing FUBAR and just giving up completely. It would almost be kind of sad if it wasn't entirely self inflicted.
>>569914731to her credit Black Alice was Tamamo realizing that fatty's lineage absolutely needed a tard wrangler and deciding to make sure this never happened again. She was so worried that Alice would turn into a psychopath after her mom's failed attempt at becoming a martyr that she tried to go out of the way to make her hate kitsunes more than humans just so her contempt for humanity could be redirected and she wouldn't mess everything up.
>>569916014Or if Tamamo is actually good at education in the first place.>>569916387That was a stupid plan. You can hate two things at the same time.
>>569916454>Or if Tamamo is actually good at education in the first place.Foxes are manipulators, but not very wise.
>>569916240To be fair, equipping shields is actually a good strategy, with a lot of them being great, it's just that the deeper you go, the less they are appealing for anyone except tanks, with a few exceptions.If imagining a lot of characters with strange weapons, like Lucifina and Ilias having bows, or Alice with Rapier, imagining everyone having a shield is certainly funny. Shields are uncool on the chara design!>you can tell he clearly believed there needed to be a constant escalation of powerGameplay and Story Integration?
>>569916240It just makes me sad because I think it is actually a very fun system to engage with and a lot of the bosses feel well-designed, but he just didn't think some choices through.
>>569917412Single Weapon Master is enough of a reason to use them because it's just better than dual-wielding and triple-wielding (ironically, considering those were very powerful in part two). Unless you're going out of the way to play """"normally"""" like a few people here did then they're only really good for the damage resistance bonuses you receive from them and enabling the aforementioned skill.
>>569917915But the thing is that most weapons give better bonuses than shields, or rather, end game.
>>569916014Only 3 came out super evil, with only one taking it to world domination levels. Not that bad of a ratio.
>>569911548Luka is like, kind of stupid.
>>569918260That is if the said characters don't have unique equipment. The shields of these special snowflakes give as much bonuses as their weapons.
>>569918323>>569911548Iirc the in game reason is that you need to be really focused keeping all the four spirits on you, charging the attack, and then attacking.So Luka is kind of a chud yes.
>>569918764Oh for sure, but then you ask yourselves funny questions like:>why would I want to be immune to X or Y, then I get as much stats and get another huge damage boost.
>>569917412I think shields are cool.......even if I don't really know how some of the girls would hold them.I guess I kind of assumed Harpies either gripped them in one talon or the magic shields could orbit around them.>>569917915Look let's be fair here I think you're forgetting how Part Three went on release in the general. Sure, I remember ZADSanon and someone who got the Bandits over level 500 and then promptly one-tapped the final boss, but there were plenty of people who were struggling to kill enemies, especially in the final route, even when they turned the difficulty down due to just how insane the stat inflation gets. There were also some anons who were struggling because up until then they hadn't really thought about "builds" and didn't really pay attention to synergies with abilities and gear because they had been able to play the game without needing to, and then the final route pretty much mandates that you know what you're doing at that point so they needed some help on abilities and stuff.
>>569918323Only because they were so focused on killing eachother
>>569918323Super Evil, but what about the Super Dumb?
>>569919152Please don't besmirch my beloved loli baba slime dragon. She just wanted to play ball, and be a giant weaboo without the hassle of ruling.
>>569918260>>569918764The multipliers from SWM and the upgraded version of it are just objectively better than equipping another weapon.It's like>do you want one dollar or two dollarswhy would I pass on the 250% bonus to one weapon for a 100% bonus to two weapons. Sure, it's 200% if you add them together. But that's not as high as 250%. And all the best weapons in the game are ones you only get one of anyway.
>>569919602Yes, but weapons give boosters. That 50% is great and all, but having another item boosting your already over the top boosted elementals should push the damage in the dual/triple favor.
>>569919602But then you got things like +75% Heroism It's the common crisis build, so instead of one +75% Heroism, you get +150% Heroism.I'm not good at math, so correct me. And yes, this is end game anyways, but I'm using an example. If you find something that is good at boosting something the character is good at, you are partially golden.
It's interesting to me how the Spirits aren't super like, relavent in paradox. In MGQ they're a solid 75% of luka's power before the angel stuff, but in paradox it's just kind of there to be there, narratively. It has good gameplay effects I guess but they dont really matter to the story at all
>>569920346Imagine the development nightmare it would be if Trtr added Spirit skills. But now, they are just good to give unique and great passive effects. Salamander, our belowed Unga. The spirits are recruited only to follow the correct history in Paradox.
>>569920647it makes me wonder why he went through all the effort to make up new mw spirits when he could've just upgraded the base spirits. Like I guess the 12 spirit joke is kinda funny but it really is bloat
>>569920038>weapons give boostersThe ability specifically clarifies that the 250%/100%/60% bonuses of the three different versions also apply to all other things those weapons have, including their boosters.So why would a 250% Bonus to one booster be better than a 100% bonus to the same booster, and then another 100% bonus to what's probably a weaker weapon with a different booster. I remember people tested this back during the release period, SWM is just objectively stronger due to the impact it has on boosters.>>569920345>I'm not good at math, so correct meWell, in all fairness it seems like both of you didn't realize the bonuses that these abilities were applying also applied to their boosters.Granted you can kinda easily get away with either one for crisis builds because crisis heroism itself is hilariously overpowered since heroism also has a built-in crisis scaling effect. But in terms of minmaxing 250% is just higher than 100%x2, especially when applied to boosters.
>>569920965For gameplay, it's definitely useless bloat. AW and MW spirits suck man, they suck balls.But for MW, I guess it's because if you play Paradox, it's to see past characters, so the artificial spirits were an obvious choice.
>>569921373I meant the spirits that were in monster world, not the artificial spirits that illias made. The artificial spirits at least have a basis in that they're from the vn and make sense to exist, the monster world spirits are inarguably bloat and have no real reason to exist. They're not even really characters.
>>569920647In all fairness you do have skills to summon the spirits; they're classified as summoning skills, and learned by the third tier summoner job. They work the same way that Luka's unique versions due, and Luka's versions are unique because his versions of them are special skills, so he can always use them, whereas any other character needs something to let them use summoning skills to be able to use them in other jobs.It's worth it until you get the heroism abilities to auto-summon them though. Especially with the ability that changes every base spirit buff to be significantly stronger. Enhanced Sylph in particular is absolutely ridiculous.
>>569921526I mixed both of them, have I?But are you telling me Ambrosia isn't a great, epic character with a lot of important things to say?! Rude!>>569921714Auto Summon Sylph is the stuff of hilarity. Start the battle, everyone is flipping dead! Too bad it's only at the start of the fight heh.
>>569921526They were just made to be the opposites of all the other two and that's literally their sole character trait.Heck I can't even remember their names other than Loa and Ghatanothoa, and the only reason I remember Ghatanothoa's is because trtr named her after one of Cthulhu's sons and she has nothing in common with her namesake on even a superficial level beyond living in a cave so I never understood why.I do think it's just because he wanted to lean into the alternate history idea of "what if the planet was destroyed so much that the elements had changed" and the guard kill skills are undeniably invaluable at least, and it's not like they're bad. But they did feel more like an afterthought than the other two did.I don't really mind though, since they didn't really negatively impact anything. They're not as cool but they're still fine.
>>569921526The MW sprits exist because the OG ones got nuked by Ilias when she tried to destroy the world. But that is the why question, how is another entirely. Did Fatty help make them? Did the world needing representatives of the elements pop them out? Who knows.
>>569922552no I know the in universe reason as to why they exist, i'm saying they don't make a good case for justifying their own existence within the narrative. We really could've just gotten fucked up edgy versions of the normal spirits like with the bandits in AW and I thought that would've been more fun
>>569922552>Who knowsthey actually explained this and went into it during the route a few times; the world needs spirits to stabilize things and keep natural order and major spirits are born from those elements to keep balance. the four MW spirits arose due to there being a need for them to exist.They even comment how the spirits tend to have consistent preferred forms that they're manifested in, like air spirits tending to be manifested in the form of fairies, or water spirits usually being a slime.>>569922649>AW!Banditsthey utterly sucked and were one of the worst parts of the route. unbelievably forced. teeny especially was awful. it's like watching characters you love be stripped of all personality and just turned into edgy stereotypes. i would rather have Loa than some chunni mangled version of Gnome or Salamander being turned into a sadsack downer. Making them completely different characters solves that problem now that I think of it so maybe that's also a reason.
Given that Illias, Alice, and Chaos are all spirits of their respective element do you think you could technically contract them if they allowed you to
>>569922420The Guard Kill skills doesn't kill Chaos Resistances right?They are also Sorceries, and not Summoning.>>569922649>We really could've just gotten fucked up edgy versions of the normal spirits like with the bandits in AW and I thought that would've been more funI mean, they are supposed to be the elements, they wouldn't change that easily. But then again, they wouldn't die that easily. But then again, the wind shouldn't be whimsical. Scientifically of course.So it's a mistery! I'm thinking way too much about it!>>569923429I'm surprised they aren't. In fact, Judgement can summon Ilias. No Unique Spirit Status though.
>>569923168Vanguard has a flat ass too. Unforgivable!I find them a bit ugly too, except Granpapi.
>>569924148doesn't she have a gigantic ass in her h scene though
>>569924224If you can't enjoy her ass all the time, what is the point?
>>569924148I don't know.The only one who really got a downgrade was Teeny. TrTr really wanted to make a ice snake and she stuck with the role.
>>569924684ngl Granpapi is probably the best looking dragon girl in the entire game, It makes me wish granberia had wings and horns
>>569924684Trtr wanted to give a niche, and I think it's a cool niche. But her design and face are just ugly.>>569924808Granberia is a fake dragon. Fake I say!
>>569925353Granberia could have gotten a really cool dragony super form and instead all we got was this shitass magical girl plotline. I'm still mad about the magical girl stuff. Like yeah granberia was supposed to accept it but it still felt humiliating through and through
>>569923954You can actually use them to bypass Chaos Resistances so long as there is not another absorption/reflect interaction with another chaos element that will override the attack you're using, as usual for chaos elements. And combining this with Taoism lets you completely get around trtr's changes to the system by still letting you completely remove immunities and applying weaknesses to enemies who are supposed to be immune to those elements and would, otherwise, completely negate attempts to apply this like taosim.It's niche but it works and it's pretty fun and useful.
>Black Alice's sole motivation for all of her actions is because she is concerned only with amusing herself>this is because she views everything as a game, and she is incapable of caring about others or how her actions impact them, because she thinks she has no reason to>all that matters is her own personal satisfaction and if she's having fun>enter Heinrich>contrary to her, Heinrich DOES care about others, and how one's actions can impact someone else, even if he himself has no personal incentive to care>he thinks it's a fundamental duty to be a hero and help those in need who cannot be one>Black Alice is fascinated with him because this is the opposite of her worldview>dons a costume to partner up with him>he really is that kind and heroic>travels the world to help those he can>over time she becomes completely enamored with him and wants to keep it going>she starts to care more about him than she even cares about herself>all of her actions were for the sake of having fun, playing a game>she no longer wants to win the game>she wants Heinrich to win>he's better than she is, because he is the hero, and she is the villain>Heinrich will change the world for the better>Only Heinrich deserves win, no one else, not even herself>Eventually they have the confrontation, and the game comes to an end with one last battle>Even if he's hesitant, as long as he is successful, she'll be content>PSYKE>Ilias>"kill her you fucking faggot or I nuke your hometown">Since both want him to kill her he trusts the plan>NOPE>Ilias saves Black Alice and takes her to heaven>Black Alice sees Heinrich wandering the world he 'saved', miserable and alone because he killed only person he loved>Then discovers Ilias was duping him the entire time>she's not even dead>ILIAAAAAAS>ANGEL KILL KILL ANGEL ANGEL KILL>Black Alice has to watch the one person she actually loves go completely insane and then die pointlessly just to get sealed in a rock>immediately snaps
>>569928605I still have it hard to feel so for him
>>569928605Let's not pretend Black Alice isn't responsible.
>>569928605my main issue is that it feels like a lot of black alice's crimes have been minimized or pushed to the side in favor of highlighting how bad illias was for duping them. Like she was still obectively a horrible mass murderer that ruined the ninth's entire life but no one really gives a shit about that but the ninth
>>569925528That homewrecker stole Daddy's skill.One one hand, the parralel stuff is fun... on the other, Berry look so pink and dumb.Well, at least her storyline went somewhere, unlike Alma.>Granberia could have gotten a really cool dragony super formBut then everyone would need to have a super cool form.Erubetie Kanade isn't that cool looking, and Berry doesn't look cool.
>>569929081>But then everyone would need to have a super cool form.God forbid we spend some time improving the characters people actually like instead of another quintillion characters no one cares about
>>569925757It's extremely niche, unobtimal and sound extremely fun.
>>569928878Exactly, she was a monster both literally and figuratively. When that so called twist was revealed in the VN iirc I was trying to figure out why should I be upset?
>>569929231I didn't think it was unoptimal, it's surprisingly very very good, and incredibly useful at getting around things with a ton of chaos immunities.If they have no absorb/repel effect to any of the chaos elements in an attack then you don't even need to apply weakness with taoism; they'll take maximum damage anyways purely because they have no resistance to the normal element. Which is incredibly funny since in some versions the game only credits the element that did the most damage, so end-game abilities will just be listed as "did x trillions of wind damage" instead of all the really fancy cool element names in the skill.
>>569929219Don't say that, Alma fans will stone you to death.I said everyone, but really I meant the Four Knights. But really-really, it's really everyone isn't it?
>>569928742Meant to say Having a hard time feeling sorry for him, he's just retarded
>>569929493And then there's Chaod Goddess Black Alice who kick everything harder.
>>569929734I mean i'd be fine with all of the holy knights getting super forms based off of their ancestors, that would be really cool. Tamamo really needs something, ANYTHING to keep her from being entirely subsumed by mw tamamo. I don't think paradox tamamo had much of a reaction to the koron stuff at all.
>>569929657...I may end up modifying Duodecuple Summon just to see the hilarity of it all.A shame that Kirin and Korikisho don't have MW/AW variant. They got the stick.
>>569930068Like I don't have a problem loving evil women or wanting to correct them, but Black Alice is one of the worst ones to have that story for. It wasn't like it she was some misunderstood person, she was true terror all on her own and Heinrich was a stupid retard
>>569930369I mean I don't have a problem with the idea trtr was going with and I think the plotline is fine. Like it feels that it's supposed to be "Black alice was clearly in the wrong, but by the end she was close to being redeemed and was going to die for her mistakes, but Illias stepped in and saved her which pushed her to be even worse" The issue is we have only seen the bad things black alice does once, and that's only in passing from her sister, wheras we get illias' perspective and the consequences from her saving black alice in full, so it comes off like Illias is the only real villian
We should get evil AU versions of all the main characters. Nega Luka would be hilarious.
>>569930752Luka but with a spine and doesn't thick with his cock
>>569930190Alma is already as close as Minagi as she could possibly be, the only way she could be closer is she decided to become naked.Erubetie become vaguely like Kanade, Erubetie Kanade says all.Now for the last two? Berry Koron would be fun.Paradox Tamamo is just there to vaguely do stuff, and be there for the final dungeon. Hopefully, Tamamo and Tamamo will fuse to become 18 Tailed Tamamo!
>>569930369>>569930684God forbid that Black Alice could be responsible for her own choices and actions, after or before Illias.
>>569930684That's what kinda ticks me off,>>569931004No anon, I agree with you.
Out of curiosity.Did we hear anything specific that B.Alice actually did? They say she was a bad egg, and did horrible things, but the way they described her reign was in pretty broad terms.She might have been hated, but she had her supporters too. Even her super loyal girl squad don't seem to be that evil themselves, more bumbling than anything else, kind B.Alice's version of the Dorombo Gang.
>>569931373Er, I agree with you too though?
>>569931586No, essentially never, as I brought up in that earlier comment the only person to like specifically attack black alice for the shit she did was Alice the ninth, who attempted to rebel and was imprisoned, and spent the rest of her life trying to unfuck what she did. What she did specifically was never said, though.
>>569928837>>569928878Some stories aren't supposed to have a happy ending.Some stories are just sad and miserable from beginning to end. That's the story for the original world.Black Alice is a sociopath who cannot understand what it means to care about someone else, tries to understand why someone would, eventually starts to understand what it's like to care about someone else, realizes she's the asshole and deserves to die for her crimes in the process (she doesn't deserve to win and be happy), and then once she tries to enact that she's so concerned about making sure Heinrich "wins" and kills her that she tragically falls back into her original worldview except flipped around, where she's unable to realize that what she's trying to force him to do will just destroy him and make him miserable, because she cares more about making sure Heinrich "wins" in her way than the fallout from when he does.She was never able to really grasp the attempt at redemption because she didn't think she deserved it or could change. She (like Alice and Alice 15) just believed she was supposed to die.Ilias completely bulldozing over everything right at the end and somehow making the situation astronomically worse is absolutely hysterical in a cosmic way but even if she never showed up the story was never going to go well.
>>569930752>luka, but>he only seals monsters to steal their energy>attempts to conquer the world (but secretly isn't all too interested)>deeply bred don dahlia>would give up everything to marry alma, but doesn't think he's good enough for her>never heals during combat
>>569931852I think most anons here understand all that, it's just the idea that "Black alice is this super evil sociopath" largely falls flat because we don't see a SINGLE thing as to what black alice actually did to make her an evil sociopath. We see her in the vn and with chaos black alice but that's explicitly supposed to be after illias made her worse. Even then Black alice herself specifically didn't really do much bad during the VN. She emboldened people like the cannan sisters and spider princess sure, but nothing really herself
>>569931705I apologize, I thought that you thought that I thought Black Alice was just misunderstood
NG+ Alma had the best art, methinks.
>>569931586What made me like Alicetromeria was when she's actually unnerved once she sees what original her/CGBA turned out like and distraught at what Heinrich turned out like. She saw the outcome and realized "oh, wait, I'm going to completely fuck everything up if I keep doing this".It helps that Alicetromeria is also a version of herself from before she actually commits a ton of war crimes. The original's reign is never gone into deeply, but it's noted in her world that things never seem to go too far, and iirc succubus village had no casualties. So her attack on succubus village and breaking the treaty was less "I'm going to destroy this village for fun" and more "Heinrich is so cool, I want to see him fight these two while saving all the villagers", which seems to be what more of her 'attacks' on things starts becoming since it's noted she's causing more problems for monsters than humans. The original BA was/became irredeemable, but for Alicetromeria it wasn't too late yet, so she drops it and starts trying to follow what Heinrich had wanted her to do sincerely, even if she doesn't really 'understand' it since she was raised by a sociopath and she's not a hero like he is.Hence why she's genuinely helpful in the final route, stops causing problems even if she remains mischievous and playful, and she just absorbs CGBA's stuff and the original dicks off when the game ends, instead of trtr trying to "redeem" CGBA.
>>569932226the other anon you replied to here, I don't think black alice is misunderstood either, I know black alice is supposed to be a bad person I just think trtr has done such a terrible job at actually showing it that it minimizes the stuff that she did
>>569932275>It helps that Alicetromeria is also a version of herself from before she actually commits a ton of war crimes.How though that doesn't make any sense? When did Black alice find time to commit war crimes when she was out adventuring with heinrich? She had to have done her main evil shit before then when spurred heinrich to go defeat her
>>569932275Attacking a village is still a bad thing.>>569932304The other Anon, but I think both side fall flat.We are supposed to think she was super bad, but we only see her doing the vaguely bad stuff.But we are also supposed to believe Ilias is the bad guy in the end, as if Black Alice didn't have agency.So, what is it then?
>>569931901That's not evil, that's a just a disgusting nightmare.
>>569932753>Attacking a village is still a bad thing.Did I say it wasnt? No.>what is it?It's both.She caused problems for fun, but never did anything "actually" that bad I said 'war crime' as a joking exaggeration, she doesn't commit any until she's already insane. She had people attack places to see fighting because it's funny and battles are cool and, more importantly, she didn't get what the problem was if no one actually died.She's 'troublesome' and 'shaped the world to her liking' but the reason she's so troublesome for her sister is because (aside from parental favoritism) she didn't really think of the nuanced long-term impacts of her actions like legal affairs or lasting damage and other consequences. She had places attacked and incited violence because fighting is cool and who cares.Notably this gets mentioned by several characters in Part 3, specifically along the lines of "if you had been born during a war you probably wouldn't have done any of this because you wouldn't have needed to", and Black Alice essentially agrees and admits she mostly did what she did because she thought peace was really really boring. Her connection to Heinrich is when she starts to realize that yes, her actions do actually have long term consequences for other people, and it's that part that makes her start to think she's evil and should die to fix things since she's ultimately a bad end mirror for Alice. It's only in the aftermath from when Ilias made it worse that she goes insane and genuinely becomes murderous, because at that point she just wants to kill everything out of spite.tl;dr she's a problematic bad guy who started fights for fun without considering that most people don't like fighting but wasn't genuinely evil or wanting to murder people until Ilias screwed over her boyfriend.She was "bad", and in the original timeline just got exponentially worse. If she didn't think she had agency she wouldn't have been trying to get herself killed.
>>569932638>that doesn't make any sense?it does to me>why would the larper with a double life start getting her underlings to cause problems so she could watch her boyfriend swoop in to fix them and protect all the villagersI don't know anon you think mail or magic crystal ball communication doesn't exist
>>569935816Maybe it's just me, but this sound horribly, horribly bad.
>>569936094Just think about it anon.Remina should have been destroyed under her reign. Destroying a kingdom is usually the opening act of the Demon Lord in these DQ style games as the start of the war between humans and monsters. B.Alice, the one who wants to play the part of the great evil king doesn't fulfill the bear minimum of the role. Hell, she didn't even burn down Henrich's village, starting his quest for vengeance. Ilias was the better Demon Lord.
>>569936527Causing trouble left and right is still bad. Again, maybe it's just me, don't bother with me.
>>569935816I mean, I think the aliceteromeria stuff was a general attempt to whitewash her as "not even that bad at first you know It really was illias you did everything wrong" so I still dislike it. Just let black alice be an evil yandere maniac none of this aliceteromeria "she didn't really MEAN it" bullshit" Is only Illias allowed to warcrime anymore
>>569938005nta, he kinda got to it before I did and he's summarized it well, but>causing trouble is still badwell, yes, that's the point of her story and 500 years ago BA's arc.It's why I said>We are supposed to think she was bad>But we are also supposed to believe Ilias is the bad guy in the endare both true. She was "bad", but she was never "irredeemable" at first, and she's more comparable to an immature child who doesn't really comprehend the impacts of their actions than she is an actual demon lord. Heinrich wanted to try and redeem her but Ilias forbid him from doing so out of both ego and her ulterior motives to use Black Alice, and her actions made both of them worse, and leads to her becoming irredeemable once she goes insane.>>569938218I don't agree, Black Alice always bothered me in the original, the explanations given as to why she acts that way make logical sense and fit her, so it was good.Besides, he does let the original Black Alice remain one of the few completely irredeemably evil characters. Alicetromeria is just the version who saw the walkthrough and realized she was going to lock herself into a bad ending if she didn't abort, but the original is both still present and manages to get even worse.>is only Ilias allowed to warcrimeHow do you forget her sister, Alice I was so good at it that 5/7 of her direct children took up warcrimes as a hobby.
>>569939608>How do you forget her sister, Alice I was so good at it that 5/7 of her direct children took up warcrimes as a hobby.In the Koron backstory they're pretty explicit that Alice herself never warcrimed, she was merely complicit in them by watching her daughter murder woman and children dragons and saying absolutely nothing to get her to stop
>>569939775>Koron genocided scaliesBased
>>569939608The thing is I think it leans into too much of "illias did everything wrong and she's the main cause of everything ever and she's basically the antichrist" that was the case in the VN and was largely dropped in paradox but then doubles back to it by making black alice actually not that evil and an easy redemption that the evil ass antichrist illias ruined everything
>>569939775>saying absolutely nothingActually in the flashback with the Ancestors we see here complementing Koron and telling her that she's doing a great job. Alice never had an issue with Koron committing genocide, her only problem was with the possibility that Koron would decide to try and kill her someday.
>>569940358Alice I really is a good person and a great mother huh!
>>569940358Sure my point is that Alice technically was never warcriming herself, just outsourcing it and using her daughter to put the dragons into camps, really alice did nothing wrong
>>569940559So you are telling me that Generals, Presidents, who control the soldiers, can't do anything wrong? Based.
>>569941121Really anon, Koron was just following orders, she didn't do anything wrong
>>569941271Does it mean Lucifina did nothing wrong, even when Ilias wasn't ordering her?
>>569940514>Only le strunk should rule! Except those stronger than me.Alice 1st is a stereotypical Chaosfag.
Oh yeah while we're on Alice the 1st slander, remember that Ilias directly questions why Alice didn't just tell Illias what was going on fully and Alice said she didn't because she didn't want to be lectured by IlliasLolLmao, even
>>569941579I mean why would she want to be lectured by someone who also kills her daughter but for different reasons.
>>569941437That's rude, at least the stereotypical Chaosfag doesn't hide in a cave!>>569941579Listen, Alice really doesn't like be lectured, especially for good reasons, you can't blame her!
>>569941729This was thousands to millions of years before the great monster wars, anon. Illias hadn't done anything to even make lucifina mad much less kill her by this point
>>569940184>was largely dropped in paradoxIt's really not, even Ilias openly tells you that she had Remina slaughtered entirely out of ego and the game never pretends like she didn't cause countless problems.All it really does is show that Alice I was just as bad.
>>569941886She still kills her daughter later on.
What's better, Ilias with Tamamo's personality, or Tamamo with Ilias' personality?
>>569942161Ilias with fat titties and tamamo with a fat ass
>>569941937The game never pretends like Illias isn't a bad person and that's not my point, it's that Illias isn't literally the sole bad actor that cause everything, which is what the vn presents it as, to the point where Micaela says the war was started entirely by her being a dumb jealous bitch. Paradox makes things a bit more complicated and I dislike whitewashing black alice to make Illias even more retarded than she already wasy
>>569942009this is irrelevant when discussing a period of time when this was nowhere close to happening yet. Alice is the direct cause of Ilias going insane and leading to this problem, and her justification for driving Ilias insane amounts to "I know I'm a cunt but I didn't feel like listening to anything you said".
>>569941579Ilias says she sure as hell would have right after that insult.Ilias was a naggy theif who liked the sound of her own voice.
>>569942334Well, Paradox Part 3 does try to put everything on her.Or is it just Lucifina and Alice 1?
>>569942334it didn't whitewash her and Ilias literally did all that in the original game anyways. you can't pin that on paradox.
>>569942432Do you not think that alice at the very least would have deserved at bare minimum a lecture given she pushed her own kid into thinking killing her family was based
>>569940184The whole point of Paradox is that Ilias learned from her mistakes, recognized that she had fucked up, and was deliberating trying to be a better person. This was contrasted by sub-Ilias who had never reached that conclusion. This was especially shown by the way sub-Ilias treated Metatronne and Sandalphone compared to how Ilias risks her life for Puruko and Wanko.
>>569942575Of course no. Alice 1's feeling bad and deflecting the blame is enough between herself and her emotions is enough!
>>569942379It's very relevant since it shows llias being stupid enough to do the same shit Fat Alice did a long time ago.
>>569942575Ilias diesnt really help herself even after Fatty pops her daughter's heart out again. Ilias can't comfort anyone without giving her unwanted opinions and ruining the moment.Who knows how many times this happened while they lived together before Alice 1st got sick of it.
>>569943051Hot take: If Alice was better, it wouldn't have happened. Dangerous opinion I know.
>>569943051Illias explicitly had no idea what the full story was because Alice shut herself away after the koron incident and Illias could not talk to her or contact her at all. She only learned the story with everyone else when Alice finally told her during chaos route. The only thing illias knew what that Alice felt she was dangerous and as such helped take her out
>>569941437She was outsmarted and killed. This isn't a honorable martial arts tournament where underhanded tactics are forbidden.
>>569943325>picnameAnon that's racism...
>It's not Hiruko's fault it's mine>it's not my fault I was grieving>go back to one
>>569943951This is the person who Ilias saw as her equal, and wanted to stomp on mortals together with.
I've only masturbated to Eden in MGQ.
>>569946795As only a good man should. Eden is a treasure.
>>569921113I stand very corrected. As corrected as every Ancestors should.>Well, in all fairness it seems like both of you didn't realize the bonuses that these abilities were applying also applied to their boosters.I didn't! Does it mean that it So 75% become 750%, yeah dualwielding cannot compete. Rip triplewielding.>Granted you can kinda easily get away with either one for crisis builds because crisis heroism itself is hilariously overpowered since heroism also has a built-in crisis scaling effect. Just wait until LoC become so hard that maximizing Heroism will be the only way forward.
>>569948787How does correction work for the sanes and Hiruko?
>>569949258I have no idea, nor do I have any idea what sanes is!
It's only now that I realize that Elf Master is a Frieren reference.
>>569949424SajA, miNagi, and the nine-tailEd fokS, tamamo.
MGQ is the story that Women make terrible leaders and that Women need men to lead them and be fathers
>>569950874You say that, but Sara is a thing, and she is one of the few women with a living, non-absent father.
>>569951418She is/was gay as well, so not enough discipline by him and was an exception to the rule
>>569950874Essentially, yes.
>>569951976Funnily enough if one were to say this in world, you would most likely be killed for it.
The more I'm searching, the more I'm actually wondering if that ability/option to skip start of battle skills/abilities might be a fever dream that I've had.I blamde the Lilith Sisters.
>>569952151Our world, or the MGQ world?
>>569950874Succubi need men to reach their wombs and make them mothers.It's absolutely possible. Even Lilith has ovaries. We just need to GO THERE.
>>569950652It's unfair that Ramamo for two letters!
>>569950874Queen Noah is pretty competent. Arguably more competent than any of the male leaders.
>>569952572...Wasn't she brainwashed and had a spy near her? And has a Colosseum that is more about porno than anything? Not that the last one matter,
>>569952319That inescapable truth was also carried over to their world>>569952531Succs are stupid parasites and any problem Illias had with them was justified. They need to be clamped down on and should be barred from making their own decisions >>569952572Exception to the rule
>>569952531I was sad, becaude I wanted to destroy them.
>>569833567are those...?!
>>569952768Honestly, I'm amazed that Ilias didn't just killed the Succ Village. Or at least locked the village with some sort of magical walls. Or normal but tough.
>>569946795This but Angels.
turns out I just liked monster girls who look like monster girls because they look like normal girls but don't act like one
>>569952768>>569953171There's nothing wrong with succubus village, between them and all angels I'd eradicate angels 100%.
>>569952987If I were Luka, I would've abandoned the mission after making contact. New priority: Giving Minagi the granddaughter she deserves.
>>569885812Double Action is nice, but it's beat by double casts since if you're going to spam every double action buff you'll have about 10+ actions so having 20 attacks is better than having 11. Ultimately you need to do this >>569886732 since Erubetie with her double action and early tier 5 is going to beat Twinkell but Twinkell is more relevant in the endgame right now if you're doing all that.
>OW Succubus Village: flooded with immigrants (i.e. perverts), native human woman abruptly turned into succubi, the veil falls apart, place goes insane>SW Succubus Village: flooded with immigrants (i.e. human woman who were turned into succubi), the veil falls apart, place goes insane>MW Succubus Village: callous ungrateful human traffickers who don't hesitate to backstab each other, eventually flooded with immigrants (i.e. angels), after which the place gets better until the world explodes>SW Succubus Village (chaos): flooded with immigrants (i.e. MW Succubi), the place goes even more insane>500 Years Ago Taratarus Succubus Village>Everything is (unironically) fine>The Succubi live normally, they just pretend to be human women but don't really act different otherwise>Ironically this is the only succubus village encountered that adhered to Minagi's teaches of discipline and self control and it's genuinely the one most well off for it and they're all happyAt least there's a version out there where everyone is happy and didn't go into a QOL spiral that freaked out all the neighbors.
>>569954962The most successful monsters realize that being around and acting like monsters is actually terrible, its like how locusts are just grasshoppers and once a locust gets free he realizes he hates being around the others and changes
>>569954962>angels), after which the place gets betterBased and true.
>>569954472nta, but I agree, double cast traits aged extremely well, especially since they stack with things like the Feral Child line.IIRC, a trait that had additional hits added to multi-hit skills would be stronger than double casts right? I remember someone telling me this was the case before due to Bullet Time scaling exponentially off of added hits, but I don't actually know if there's anyone who even has that in a trait.I also don't remember how you get bullet time either but I guess I never used it.
>looked at the page>number of comments mention that the list is functionally meaningless at this point due to just how absurd the powerscaling gets and trtr still plans to add moreto be honest i have to agree. there's not even a reason to have it. omniblobs make the whole thing pointless. the only thing you could really try to tier anymore is just supporter units because they don't have infinity+1 vs different infinity+1 arguments, but with how self sufficient omniblobs turn into you don't need support in the first place so who even cares.
>>569956376Supporter units mostly run into the same problem outside the unique collabs since anyone gains Dance/Singing/etc Haste in the end. Only argument is seeing Part 4 as postgame and having this be a speedrun tier list I guess.
>angels take over>quality of life increases (if you're a good boy)>navy takes over>quality of life increases (if you're a good boy)>m*nsters take over>"yo check it out I make money by poisoning people in the desert and then selling the antidotes in town lmao"I'm nooticing........
>>569961680Based Angel + Navy appreciator.
>>569960829Who are the speedrun heavyweights right now anyway? And are people banning the use of the Ruler's Ruler like they should be?I know that Promestein is really really really important in early part 1 because she can smack Morrigan dead without needing to resortAnd that Alma Elma is completely worthless, because the Map Glitch got fixed so you can't skip Gold Fort, which sucks and I don't like that because I hate Gold Fort
>>569962918>And that Alma Elma is completely worthlessI mean I imagine conditions apply, because Alma nets you Yamato no Orochi, Kraken, and Poseidon I think which then would make you very overlevelled tor the bulk of Part 2 at low time investment.BUT if you were hyperfocused on overlevelling only a few specific characters, then I guess they might not be worth.
>>569962497>shallow water monsters>cutie-patootie, would pat and protecc>deep water monsters>eldritch horror abominationshow come
>>569963295It's true to life!
>>569963295Depends on the ocean
>>569963295But Anglerfish Girl is cute!
Rape is not the answer!
>>569963295Water pressureLack of lightLack of shotasThis are all reasons why deep water monster girls take such monstrous forms
>>569970331Of course it isn't, there wasn't even a question
>>569965547>AnglerfishThat's a sea angel.
>>569954962>>569955997> until the world explodesPisslias...lostMinagi won
>>569965547Buwu that's adorable!
>>569954962They have interesting punishments for child molesters.Seriously, was that really the needed punishment? That's what you call justice? While your village do that anyways? What the fuck girl.If that wasn't chaos fucking up everything I forgot.
>>569952572Because these are porn game and trtr can't write a good female character to save their life let alone a guy
>>569977464but we can't fuck her, she has no h scene at all and in story she's not interested in Luka as a breeding partner or a romantic one, shes' actually very cordial with Luka and the slime girls love her, it's kinda a pity Kanade and Eerubetie never talk to her about that
>>569977872Normal slime girls are cute. Kanade and Erubetie aren't cute. Except when the last one goes boomerang boomerang>but we can't fuck herAnon really is a pervert, wanting to fuck a spaceship...
>>569977984>>569977984I'm not, it's just that as a kind hearted, mature older woman who isn't malicious my young self was really attracted to her in the VN so when I saw her in her queenly attire and she had big boobs too I was hoping she'd "reward" Luka sexually with a paizuri or at least a cgi of her hugging Luka in joy while he's blushing heavily being pressed into her chest like that.sadly all I got was a slutty housewife mermaid and a bi sexual tomboy princess, sara isn't bad but I still can't help but wonder, why did she get full on naked for just a blowjob, was she hoping to tease Luka enough for him to want to go further with her, she said she was gay but doesn't seem to mind Luka as her sexual partner, I wonder if it was for the sake of the game or TrTr actually elaborated on it, but if for the sake of the game why was grand noah queen left out? I miss being a teenager.
>>569978495I thing you also miss having Faith.
>>569978495She gets a scene in the collab.It's still pretty disappointing.
>>569978649No, just the teenager body, through if I'm really being honest, I'd perfer the body I had when was 10, I was small enough to get into tight places so I could hide easily and youthful enough people thought I was 3 years younger than I should be>>569978945oh yeah, what's it like? Is she brainwashed during it or something because I can't imagine her laying hands on Luka as her normal self even paradox she never propositions Luka like damn near every other girl does cept Sonya, I don't think Sonya has ever hit on Luka or tried to proposition him sexually ever
>>569979094Let's just say it's really slimey.
>>569952179No seriously, have I dreamed it? I just can't seem to find it.
How many monsters must be impregnated by Luka, How many harpies must exist until these Anons are satisifed?
>>569980417Yes!
>>569971371>Get a sea angel Clione girl in part 3>Voreslop and generic designUgh
>>569980417Until Luka becomes the Ancestor of a new monster species.
>>569982684monster boys
Is 3.06 the final version for Paradox or do they plan to add more stuff?
>>569971371I can't post Anglerfish Girl since she's a typical "naked torso on some shit" Setouichi girl
>>569986767TrTr wants to essentially implement a Part 4 with the Golden Route, or tgat is what fan's are calling it.It sounds like he wants revamp old content to a pretty crazy level.
i wonder why porn game ost are so fucking good of all thing and nobody going to listen to it such a wastehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVxLJok3sUQ&list=OLAK5uy_kPzuo9HAiadFaZqRh-sl2NIcJsP94UYYw&index=12
>>569990856That sounds like it'll take years to complete.
>>569975445If you mean the Natasha deal, that was more than just molestation.
>>569978945Why don't I remember this?
>>569930369>It wasn't like it she was some misunderstood personDon't see the issue. That just means Heinrich was a true evil woman lover instead of a simp for one of those pussified "just misunderstood" whores.>Heinrich was a stupid retardHe was right though. Even CGBA got her shit together and saved the party twice (once from Idea Lukas and once from Chaos) after getting to interact with her husbando for a bit. Not to mention that one of Paradox's central themes is that nobody is irredeemable with the NG+ route seemingly pointing towards even the ruinations somehow being redeemed.
>>569993389It's not good. She can even be called a observer, rather than a participant in the scene. TrTr really wanted to keep that character pure for some reason.
>>569993667>Don't see the issue. That just means Heinrich was a true evil woman lover instead of a simp for one of those pussified "just misunderstood" whores.No, the problem was that he saw her as some misunderstood. He thought with his cock instead>He was right though. Even CGBA got her shit together and saved the party twice (once from Idea Lukas and once from Chaos) after getting to interact with her husbando for a bit. Not to mention that one of Paradox's central themes is that nobody is irredeemable with the NG+ route seemingly pointing towards even the ruinations somehow being redeemed.Explain luddite Village then? Even those who didn't do anything got toasted. Most of the redemption is just not talking about it or ignoring the problem, with some exceptions. In MGQ world the dumber you are, the more power you have
>>569993667>one of Paradox's central themes is that nobody is irredeemable with the NG+ route seemingly pointing towards even the ruinations somehow being redeemed.>Even the ruinations>Implying EchidnaI'd rather bash my own head in with a brick than read trtr twist himself in pretzels in attempting to redeem her
>>569994053Sorry we meant only women are redeemable by ignoring their actions, not men.
>>569994664What about Hiruko or Kanon? Eh?
badwriting schizo still at it huh?
>>569993667>Not to mention that one of Paradox's central themes is that nobody is irredeemableYour Gabriella?
>>569994664She says so herself.She just wants to make everyone happy.Echidna has a deranged savior complex.
>>569995656I find it funny how that one anon mindbroke you so hard he lives in your head rent free now
>>569995789I dont care what trtr or she says, she put me through the worst scene in the game and has a design that sears my eyes, she's getting blasted.
kek badwriting schizo couldn't resist outing himself again
>>569994053Poor spy priest, merchant who just wanted to help, and boys who did nothing wrong.I'm not even kidding, I feel bad for them all. They just got shoved aside and like you said, ignored.The guy who cried about his merchant friend being killed is still there.
>>569994053>No, the problem was that he saw her as some misunderstood.If she could be redeemed then she wasn't the pure evil being that must be slayed that Ilias was pushing her as. Heinrich was prepared to go to the monster lord castle to fight BA (even knowing Alicetromeria was the monster lord), but he didn't want to finish her off because he knew he could fix her and was ultimately proven right by the end of Paradox.>Explain luddite Village then? Even those who didn't do anything got toasted.Luka brought the innocent Luddites back post Chaos. He only left the anti makina commies dead (commies are the only irredeemable evil in MGQ).
>>569995916*Still there in my head, I mean.I just woke up.
>>569995901what? I just don't like Echidna specifically. I'm totally fine with trtr attempting to redeem angolomis or Koron or something but I just personally don't care for "redeeming" Echidna. As the anon from before brought up there's perfectly valid narrative pathways to do it I just would rather not have trtrt waste his time. I'm not some kind of total monster genocide kind of guy i'd be fine with the lilith sisters not doing luddite, I just specifically have a seething hatred for echidna.
Maybe giving an autistic masochist shota total power is not actually a good idea.
>>569996176So you would be fine with a redeemed Hiruko, Kanon, or Betreyella?>>569996363Come on, he's 5000+ years old...
>>569996418Kanon eh but sure for Hiruko and I never even found Gabriella all that offensive in the first place. Girl honestly gets it worse than characters that i've felt done worse like black alice
>>569996528Damn, I forgot to talk about the Dimentional Eroder...>I never even found Gabriella all that offensive in the first place. Girl honestly gets it worse than characters that i've felt done worse like black aliceTbf, same here. I just don't get. She just betrayed people. Compared to what Hiruko or Kanon did, that's small potatoes.
>>569996528wait reverse Kanon and Hiruko here, I think Hiruko is much easier to redeem given it's pretty easy to argue that she had no real control over her actions to some degree, whereas Kanon did.
>>569996740Anon, do we have to talk about Sabasa and her fun flesh castle? Or the monster she kill and replace even in MW?
>>569996892Did Hiruko do bad things? Yeah. But they were also really fun to go through and interesting setpieces, so I find her more palatable to redeem because she's a fun character. That's what matters to me more than actually deserving it. Echidna's sequences are the most unfun shit in the game, kill her with hammers.
>>569997015That's fair.But Sabasa's castles almost made me throw up...
>>569996892>Sabasa and her fun flesh castleSome people there had better life than outside though
>>569996696It's because she doesnt apologize or try to make amends. She still tries to worm herself into people's good graces with bullshit. Like with Fallen Michaela.
>>569952179>>569979553Anyone? I'm truly lost there.>>569991823Ouch. Pouring salt into the wound.
>>569998664>It's because she doesnt apologize or try to make amendsTo be fair, on that front, no one is really making amends or apologizing...
>>569999043Traitors only get the rope, she is lucky she was given the option to stay in jail by her own devices.
>>569996528>>569996696>>569998664>>569999043>>569999273Traitors make it personal
>>569999917What about Magazine?
https://catbox.moe/c/vpw48h CONTENT WARNING: TRANSFORMATION VIA UNBIRTHWell. Now I know how long this artist takes. Not suited for something for April fools on relatively short notice.You may bleach your eyes now if you wish.
>>570000182>>570000461My wife, Doppel-Slime. Thank you anon
>>570000017She never betrayed her mother or her species. Fuck anything that isn't a slime.
>>570001376Didn't she attack Kanon's town? And her own town?
>>570001524Kanon is on rightful Slime clay, she and the Plantoids can take a hike. No Slimes were targeted when she attacked the town.
>>570002121So, innocent people are fair game, including her own.
>>570002214>no Slime was targettedAnon, we went through this.
>>569998708You're talking about this one right? trtr added it in 3.04.I still think beating the game on 3.02 was worth it for reasons but it would've been nice to have it for at least one fight.
Are there any scenes in Paradox that are missable? Like if you beat a boss but don't get defeated by them.
>>570003406You can remedy that by going to Hades.I'm going to Hades! *certain music is playing
>>570003406since you can refight everything not really
>>569977464there's plenty good ones
>>570003292I, I don't have it. Why don't I have it? I'm searching under the Converter but it's not there! Have I been cursed?
>>569990856Golden Route/Playthrough (with Chaos) is his official name for it, what everyone else calls it is just NG++ or a fourth route.
>>570004005What version are you on? Maybe go to Reaper and see if she can give it to you if all else fails.
>>5700042483.06. I've talked to Reaper in Hades and in the castle, but nothing sadly.God has cursed me.
>>570005712They might learn it on level up, otherwise it's probably just a bug
>>570008356Hm, unfortunately not. I guess I'll have to somehow edit the game to give it to everyone. Thank you for your help.What happened, I wonder.
>>570004005Just to confirm it only appears on certain characters with start of battle traits, which character are you trying to use it for?
>>570009614Eh? It doesn't appear on everyone, in case you don't want to cast start of battle Abilities like Sylph's Support?>*check it*The spirit's does have it... shuck, I suck. I'm truly sorry for the bother, I really thought it was a bug.
>>570011274It's specifically just for innate trait abilities that you have or would have no control over otherwise.It's alright though anon dw about it lol.
>>569990856is this real? I waited a decade for the trilogy to finish and it's still isn't finished...
>>570003292There's something fundamentally funny about taking your part 1 girls and turning them into calamity busters.
>>570020831>inb4 it is finished
>>570020837>calamity busterWell, that would be My Wife Reina.it was so awesome to see her do this and then do it again in the arena. And she still only had three tier five jobs mastered when she beat them, too! Honestly the whole game was incredibly fun and I look back on it very fondly.
>>570000913>slime-slimeThis would bother the taxonomist in me, but then we're all homo sapiens sapiens around here. I guess it is the correct formal species for a transformed human.
>>569995994>Luka brought the innocent Luddites back post Chaos.Then where was the kid?
>>570023713Harpyanon, stop bullying your baby girl, it's rude.
Can you really call monstergirls redeemed if the only reason they don't do evil is being afraid of getting their teeth kicked in by Luka
>>570034179Obviously the kid was a commie. Otherwise Luka would've brought him back.
>>570036725Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent, but luka is a turbo masochist so that's exactly what he wants. If you want to be forgiven you have to talk like this to himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_KDzr0ACxg
>>570036725...I don't think a kid can be a commie yet.
>>570035039No, that's exactly why Luka and Alice had to keep traveling the world to keep coexistence alive
>>570035039As a certain hero in a manga said, a world can only truly be saved by the people who call it home. Heroes can, in the end, give only a helping hand.In other words, the entire MGQ universe was already fucked beyond recovery from the start and I think King Luka in the original world has long known this on some level and that's why he looks so weary and also he just wants to see his god damn kids and wife and he's always probably in his head like "why do I have to put up with all this gay courtly shit"
>>570038091>In other words, the entire MGQ universe was already fucked beyond recovery from the start and I think King Luka in the original world has long known this on some level and that's why he looks so wearySomehow, I expect this to be wrong, sadly.
>>570038091Luka having to go through endless paperwork and the knowledge that it will all most likely fall apart the moment he leaves the throne is his punishment. Which a masochist like him loves, sign those documents in triplicate, forgot a paper? Do it all over again >>570038291>Somehow, I expect this to be wrong, sadly.Same, but until its officially glossed over or ignored, I'm just having fun
>>570038405How dare you having fun! How dare you being able to have fun?!
>>570038291>Somehow, I expect this to be wrongReally? Because that Luka looks pretty fucking tired to me. This level of weariness, I think, could only be shown off on the face of someone who realized too late the things he knows now
>>570039031Its going to be glossed over, ignored or magically solved.>>570038635I just think of my wife an I'm happy
>>570039031Yeah but >>570038405>Same, but until its officially glossed over or ignored, I'm just having fun>until its officially glossed over or ignoredWe, the Superior Brains, are not dumb.But man, does Older Luka look cool.And kind of like a douchebag.
>>570039031I feel like everyone's reading way too deep into those expressions, it just looks more like he's supposed to be cool stoic badass to me
>>570039195How DARE you be happy? You should be Harpy!
>>570039031he looks more smug than tired to me, like I feel he would say some dumb shit like coexistence is my middle name
>>570039603They are nice monsters and I would trust them for the most part, but they're not really my thing.
I will defend my position only one more time, and then pretend I totally am still right about everything because I don't want to make the whole thread about this because that would be really lame and cringeand then maybe TrTr will prove me wrong or we'll just be forever guessing at the fate and temperament of a character we'll never actually meet (filename related)>>570039476The problem I have with that is, what would it take for LUKA to get stoic? This is the guy who starts his adventure off with a high naivete stat that would act on what his heart says 80% of the time, and now he's like a world leader among world leaders who could more than likely solo a human army if it was just a contest of fighting strength>>570039302>nuh uh me not dumb, U r dumbI agree that it's not exactly final say, but fuck you I'm fully locked in on my read on King Luka. Hero-kings aren't drawn with eyes like those for shits and giggles, and King Luka is probably older than he already looks, if we go by how developed Neris and Nero are and the dude still barely even has crow's feet but his eye shape looks like he should totally have some deep crow's feet by now. And we know Luka isn't a Fantasy Asian because Fantasy Asia is somewhere else on his continentAlso fuck off, men can have a resting bitch face too, Luka is still not a bad guy>>570039634He only looks smug in the second emote, and I totally get where you're coming from there. He looks like he might WANT to say it but doesn't because he knows what happens when you rock the boat the wrong way now
>>570041973From what we were told, Luka and Alice barely had anything to do with their kids educations.>fuck you>fuck offYou are mean. I was only teasing...
>>570042361>Luka and Alice barely had anything to do with their kids educationsYeah, neither of them really have time to. For Luka that's probably an even more harsh blow. And Alice is a gluttonous snake, and also a descendant of Fatlice, so I just automatically assume that she doesn't have feelings that are worthy of discussion>You are meanI'd be calling you a slur if I actually had ill will. What if I was actually blessing you with monster rape from your preferred species this whole time?
>>570042873>Yeah, neither of them really have time to.Which confuses me, how did your life became so trash you don't have time for your kids? And I guess I can see why you would give your kid to Tamamo, but Granberia? The hell is wrong with them?>I'd be calling you a slur if I actually had ill will. What if I was actually blessing you with monster rape from your preferred species this whole time?Unless it's a Harpy or Mermaid, I say, ewwww.
>>570043116>or MermaidAnon...
>>570038091>>570038291>sadlyyou guys want everything to be miserable?Like in all seriousness I get the purple sploodge is still all over the place and there's some towns that are just kinda screwed over unfortunately (Ilias Port is destroyed beyond repair and Port Natalia went kind of crazy) but even if people make jokes about it the vast majority of the world is still doing fine. A lot of the major kingdoms are in good stable positions now, a lot of the towns and villages have recovered, and some places like Happiness/Harpy Village and New Rostrum Village finally got their long sought happy endings.Also I get it's mostly played as a joke (because it's honestly kind of funny to think about it) but it's worth remembering that the Luka Fan Club that he inspired not only has thousands of members but they're actually travelling all across the world and genuinely trying to help others for no ulterior motive and assisting people whether it's large acts of heroism or just something as simple as helping grannies cross the street and carrying something for someone.It's really not as bad as some of you are making it sound. I think it could have been better, but trtr likely plans to make it better anyway, and while I would've been happier if he managed to un-tangle it and the Singularity World was just returned to normal, it's still recovering and will be improving in time (in universe anyway)......the biggest issue is still just how ugly the world looks though. seriously, could you have just fixed the gunk all over the place man. it's just such an eyesore. the laboring class is going to get rid of it all manually at least (Rostrum got a head start since they spent the entire route doing this) but I know that guy or at least his kid could've sped the process up.
>>570043116>I guess I can see why you would give your kid to Tamamo, but Granberia? The hell is wrong with them?let us count the ways>Erubetie: would refuse and is also a terrible influence>Alma Elma: why the fuck would you give an infant child to ANY succubus???>Granberia: loyal to Alice and would not refuse, even if it was out of her wheelhouse, which it was, but Neris still ended up a good girl so it's all good>Tamamo: a fox, which is negative points, but on the other hand she certainly would be a really good mentor since she knows how to teach a lesson that's for damn sureit's process of elimination
>>570043260I miss Part 2 world to be honest, there's just not enough life, genuine life I feel.Just saying, but Idea Lukas is totally number one member.>spoilerTotally, it was ugly before, it's still ugly now.
>>570043463why cant you just give both kids to tamamo, though? She has more than enough ability to raise more than one kid
>>570043463Give both to Tamamo.>but Neris still ended up a good girl so it's all goodI feel like Neris turned out good in spite of that. They spent most of the time fighting, or roasting boars, outside.What kind of education is that? And she's the one supposed to have the throne?!
>>570039603Being Hapy does not require you to be with a Harpy, although it is (of course) the easiest way to become Hapy. Harpies just want to spread Hapiness to everyone in the world, and help others find love too. They even support human relationships!I simply love Harpies, because Harpies make me Hapy!>>570034301I take offense to that, I would never bully Mini.>>570043203It's not like all the Mermaids are from Port Natalia.Jessie and El are nice.>>570043808To be fair she mentions she plans to split it with Nero because she knows he's more fit for the job than she actually is.
>>570043628I think it's because of breadth of experience? Granberia would need something to do other than just be a knight unironically. And Tamamo and Granberia would definitely meet each other more than just once, since unlike the other two SHITtennou. Neris and Nero were by no means separated from each other all the time, they act approximately as close as siblings who grew up together without hating each other's guts do, it's just that their "homes" were differentOr more likely, Luka and Alice just had a dumb idea like "ONE CHILD PER GUARDIAN" and didn't think about it properly, which is probably why Tamamo turned Nero into such a hyper-competent guy that he's a super clean-freak who can tune pianos for some reason
>>570044071>To be fair she mentions she plans to split it with Nero because she knows he's more fit for the job than she actually is.The fact that she has the title in the first place is hilarious. Isn't Tamamo supposed to educating Monster Lords? What happened to that?Coexistence, unless it's a guy hmmhmm?
Or maybe giving Neris to Granberia was Tamamo's idea, for all we know.
>>570044264I like how they try to make Nero into a joke... but he's really just the bestest and strongest and goodest boy.>"Oh I'm so sorry for what I've said at the start of the game!">"I tuned the piano, ordered the book and cleaned everything. I had time to kill."
>>570039603But anon, if I'm a harpy, I'll no longer have hands to draw harpy art with. Not that I do anyway, I've been stuck on this damn manta ray for weeks.
>>570044275Isn't Nero getting the job and education the true sign of co-existence? He'll be the first male monster lord.
>>570044672If the title and throne was purely him, sure. But since the throne is shared, it's merely the first step.Luka, you suck at coexistence! You failed one of the easiest job!
>>570044646Pii shows off her doodles proudly.
>>570044646>mantaI think Horn SUCKS!
>>570044646That's skill issue. Train harder!
>>570044903She killed millions (of shark girls).
>>570044903Ironically this manta started out looking closer to Horn than to Ocean, since it's my take on Undine. Was supposed to be a sea chimera at first, then a jellyfish and finally this bioluminescent manta. That will evolve into a golden dragon-manta sky ray thing.My scope creep is as bad as trtr's.
This isn't mgq related or even monster girl related but are there any jrpgs or even rpgs that give the same upbeat adventure feel while playing them. Not, like, porn games like sequel but actually good normal games.
>>570020837As silly as it is I feel like tiny Ilias canonically becoming equal in power to big Ilias downplays it a lot since pretty much anything from Barbun on is definitely stronger than tiny Ilias.
>>570047087>This isn't mgq related or even monster girl relatedstopped readingplay Monster Girls and the Mysterious Adventure 2 (or 1 but you don't really have to and 2 is just fine on its own)
>>570047360Then we have tiny Alice.
>>570044595I'd certainly trust Nero more than Luka for anything important.
>>570047360nta but I honestly think it makes it even funnier because it means that it's not even a case of ludo-narrative dissonance, it's essentially canonized that all the mob girls have now become obscenely powerful individuals who can beat the crap out of the apostles and calamities due to their hard work and dedication.
>>570047087>upbeati feel like that really only applies to the first two parts
>>570048207The only black marks he has, is going with Neris to Chaos Realm in AW/MW and not coming back. And standing against Luka when he decided to make Chaos... which isn't much of a black mark at all actually.The real black mark was Neris being a filthy centrist!
>>570048432And then, they will get Awakened Traits, for more Carnage!
>>570047087Dragon Quest?
>>570048432Eh canonically the cast still are jobbing or need friendship/teamwork to beat the apostles and while they will get stronger awakened traits are pretty much going to be Chaos buffing the party so that's basically unearned unless it is hilariously them getting upgraded for working hard... which would make no sense for the final dungeon enemies.
>>570049750>Eh canonically the cast still are jobbing or need friendship/teamwork to beat the apostlesWhy are you reminding us of that...
>>570049081Sounds like a ripoff
>>570048639World of Final Fantasy? It's basically a pokemon style monster capture game that's generally upbeat with cute graphics. Also it has some monster girls in it.
>>570049950The upcuming game certainly feel that way.
>>570050743 meant for >>570047087
>>570049750nope>earned*ftfythey literally hard carried lukaif it hadn't been for his team mates he would've been dead in five minutes if you want to talk about "canon"
>>570052319Ah yes, we clearly needed Giant Hiruko naked.Nooooo Luka you can't use Chaos it's le baaaaad
>>570047087CrossCode and Golden Sun come to mind. They both are a bit more serious than MGQ but they have this sort of "random bullshit go" feel to fill the space as you go from A to B.Also Tales of Arise, though that's hardly a good thing. You lead a slave rebellion so there's a lot of cartoonish brutality. But then you also get a slice of life button to trigger conversations about food or the party's pet owl.
>>569990856Will TrTr ever move on from paradox
>>570053109Her works about actual monsters raping shotas don't sell as well
>>570053109Hopefully, not until it's finished.
>>570052576> we clearly needed Giant Hiruko naked.Absolutely agreed. She is perfect. Hiruko is the best MGQ girl. Nobody should even bother disagreeing, because you will be factually wrong anyway.
>>570052319Tiny Alice/Ilias that won that Luka free for all and lots of mob girls are scared of Sonya. It is technically true Luka would be dead without his party but that's either because he's going at a faster pace than the VN or done by stronger characters like Lucifina which is the opposite topic
>>570053380I wish he could have killed her and Eroder with Uooooh Chaos.
>the downer is still shitting on anyone having funI sure am glad that you will never be in charge of a game or narrative, because it would definitely be godawful>>570052576>didn't read or understand the story>refuses to engage with it>wtf why do people not take my le ebin criticisms seriously?!yes yes I'm sure you can get your masturbatory totally-not-banal powerfantasy somewhere elseyou want to turn luka into a braindead shell who destroys the universe while having a tantrum then don't be surprised when the game tells you that it's retarded to do that
>>570053658Oh, I know it's bad, it's just my hatred for Hiruko surpasses that.You are projecting badwriting into me aren't you.
>>570053432>scared of SonyaClearly, that's because they didn't actually try to fight her. All bark and no bite. Plus by the time she gets the powerup you've had to defeat an even more powerful version of her for her to get it so anyone who did that has no reason to be afraid of her.Honestly I think it's just that they don't want to put up with her when she gets in the tantrum mood. I would just want her to stop yelling at me too.also Ilias and Alice went for the throat in that free for all argument, I picked Ilias and she gets her into such a seethe that she can't even argue back anymore and I'm willing to bet Alice did the same thing to her since that just seems like something trtr would want both routes to feel the joy of experiencing.I still prefer Sonya to either of those two, though.I can't even blame her for flipping out like she does. Can you imagine trying to be the tardwrangler for those two I'd fucking shoot myself.
Sometime I feel like I'm the only person who think of Sonya as meish. She does nothing to me in term of romance.But Sonya doesn't exist was kino.
>>570054750She doesn't do anything for me either, but her antics are funny. If I were in Paradox world, I'd hang out with her,
>>570055009Her being a tarwrangler does nothing to me either. It's funnier if she react instead of being no fun allowed.>If I were in Paradox world, I'd hang out with her,Think about your anus!
>>570054750I didn't give a shit about sonya because i played the vn and i know sonya doesn't exist, luka has no childhood friend
>>570056469The Lilith Sisters should have killed her because nothing bad would have happened if they did, Sonia isn't part of the OG history.
>>570057206My guy, I wouldn't trust the Lilith Sisters, not even the middle one, to do anything right, I wouldn't even make them guard a mountain.
>>570057461Sonya doesn't exist.Killing her would be a boom to the world. It would mean less potatoes growing eyeballs, and cows bleeding acid.Like I said, nothing bad would happen, just like when they killed some retarded hero who jumped them unprovoked.
>>570057709You're forgetting that White Rabbit is playing MW for such a long game that she's practically holding a concert; she orchestrated their entire plan for them and then intentionally withheld information so they would kill Marc, forcing the universe to spawn a replacement, just so his son would have the ability to open doors in the abandoned universe mall area.Sonya getting made was also important to the overall plan, which is why leaving her behind for too long causes White Rabbit drag her across multiple tartaruses (and pick up Nuruko while they're out) so she can get up to speed on the situation and then force you to take her.
>>570059239Sometime, I don't White Rabbit, but the important part is. She is supposed to observe, make the Monster Lords transform into the next White Rabbit (Which never happen)>You're forgetting that White Rabbit is playing MW for such a long game that she's practically holding a concert; she orchestrated their entire plan for them and then intentionally withheld information so they would kill Marc, forcing the universe to spawn a replacement, just so his son would have the ability to open doors in the abandoned universe mall area.Guwha?
>>570059612She is fighting her nature as the 1st Law, since she got sentience. The Laws are broken, and are not working as intended.
>>570060663I think she does more than fighting it. Plus, she only seems tired at Part 2 epilogue.It's a shame Alice White Rabbit was never give any consequences, even in MW.
>>570054750>Sometime I feel like I'm the only person who think of Sonya as meish. She does nothing to me in term of romance.I really like sonya
>>570061480>picThis remind me, it's a bit of a shame how spellblade got it bad. There's not even an auto skill for them that detect the weaknesses.Plus with the spirits...
>>570061751By the time we get to the the endgame, most skills are going to have 5+ elements already.Spellblades were already on low end in Part 2, they were not going to survive Part 3.
>>570059612you played alice's route, rightthey beat you over the head with all of this stuff towards the end of her route it's impossible to avoid. i realized trying to explain everything you seem confused by amounted to me trying to write a summary of all the major lore reveals in that route and at that point like i just don't get how it's missed.
>>570062628It's been so long... I'm sorry.
>>570062747it's alright, i guess that's understandable.
>>570062170It's a bit sad. It's also on Marcellus kit. They could have easily made better by small things, abilities that activate them at the start of a fight, randomly activate them, skill that activate multiple imbue, ailments, deaths auto detect the weaknesses, this sort of things. They only get an Abilitty that imbue them give Spellblades their Chaos Elements.Skill Type rejected, Goodbye Spellblade, I wanted you to be cool.
>>570053432The game's actually pretty good at avoiding narrative dissonance with the gameplay and story, Luka's Party is always acknowledged for every fight (eventually as just "(your) companions" for simplicity) and he canonically defeats everything with the team you made, even you not using him can go as either him giving everyone else commands/suggestions or having enough faith in the girls that they can win.Anytime someone explicitly does something for him, the story always makes it clear when "(insert character) is getting to have their 'I get to be cool' moment". Even across all three parts many of the recruitable girls/mob enemies have lines of dialogue to let them have the one moment to do something cool as a bonus for whoever happens to like them. It's just more 'plot important' (re: mandatory) characters who get upgraded to dedicated scenes.Hilariously the only thing the world (and trtr) does not actually account for is trying to do a solo run. The closest you can get is ditching Sonya and spiting the village elder by refusing to meet with him, which one NPC essentially says tags you as an asshole which is why no one tries to join you beyond mandatory scripted recruits on the no sonya run.
>>570063949Luka comes off as a giant asshole in the solo run. Going full super villain dialogue options at the same time just makes things even funnier.
>Wanted Sonya in that gacha to hear what voice they would give her>Realize that if they did that she'd have to fuck VN Luka, it's okday for Prom and Hild because they're rapists but Sonya would never rape
>>570066309We did get her, but only Adramelek got to make noises in the first one, and her ■■■■■ is revealed to sound like a droning, siren-like wail which feels fairly appropriate.Also Hild genuinely doesn't seem to understand he's not the same Luka, she even tries carrying all their luggage for them and stuff and they just went along with it because she seemed like she was trying to be nice. Which is kind of hilarious since that's really not far off from canon given the discussion where she tries to do math.
Prome going on a lecture about how Hild is filled with useless functions and also a complete moron only to get sidelined by Luka being better at math than even she is was great
>>570067097Dumb toaster, she deserves the artificial insemination option.
>>570069019well then she doesn't cheat on anyone so there's even less of a problem!
>>569995682Redeemable, but so notorious no one wants to admit it.
>>570067414Luka had a superbrain that was never taught how to use its maximum power and had to do it by himself. The fact that only Ilias, the ORIGINAL Ilias, had faith in his capabilities from the very beginning was the real icing on the cake for me
>>570070490As a dog returns to it's vomit, a fool returns to her folly.
>>569996696>>569998664>>569999917It's because of the implications of her betrayal. She would've condemned everything in her world to death or slavery to be king of shit rock before an existential threat, she did the same again immediately in the chaos route, and as soon as she had an ally, a person who reasonably could've not only given her and her subjects shelter, but also put together a temporary alliance to reinstate her and advance their aims together, she betrayed her, attacked the people going around and fixing the world (including her home city) pro bono, and successfully alienated everyone who could sympathize with her. She could've even co-operated with Sariela for that same benefit, but she stabbed her in the back instead.Only her allies would overlook the Sam farm. Her MW allies know she wanted to gut Kanon, and everyone beneath her knows she's one bad idea off from turning them into disreputable statistics.There is literally no one who doesn't have a reason to hate her, so her jail cell is now just the sole thing protecting her.This is simply outside the concept of redemption.
>>570072284This doesn't really matter all that much when all of the calamities of ruin have confirmed to nuke several worlds already. Being complicit in the death of a world or two is nothing when everyone has already blown up theirs
>>570070602Doomed Timeline Luka let his deranged scientist angel wife make horrible abominations while he made a dumb, baby making clanker. All those disgusting chimera in the lab were Prom just being Prom, but this time with Luka watching.
>>570074576>Luka let his deranged scientist angel wife make horrible abominationsAbominations designed to hold off the appopstasis invasion long enough for Luka to finish building his dumb onahole. It's not like she was only make them for fun, though I'm sure she did have fun making them.
nothing bad ever happened to my wife
>>570072743You misunderstand.This isn't a, "This is how bad she is," argument.This is a, "She's made an enemy of everyone who even might want to defend her," deal.Even Luka is fine with her treatment since the others aren't actively breaking into her cell to torture/kill her.Redemption is a naive concept.
>>570075264Also doesn't matter given that in the golden route she wont even get the chance to do that anyways, so it's once again mostly moot.
>>570075354What's the premise of the golden route, again?
>>570074775Luka had to watch in horror as his wife explained the added function of animal fucking to her bug abomination.
>>570075542I still wonder what the point of the lore is that we NEED to know that the ancestors probably fucked animals before humans were invented
>>570075542>locked in a tower with prom for 40 yearsHe definitely came out of that experience wearing diapers.
>>570075772It means the ancestors arent picky about what dicks they fuck therefore they'd fuck your dick.
>>570076042any monster girl would suck any dick, that's kind of the premise of these games
>>570075436nta but>"you know what, now that everything is finished, the world's doing alright, but it could still be better.">"also my test-tube daughter who had no childhood missed out on all the fun and adventure and I want to make it up to her so she gets to have fun and adventure too.">"also my one true regret is that I there were people I had to kill, so maybe I can find a way not to kill them this time and also save everyone else I missed."For the record: trtr showed Luka saving the nekomata and oni from being eaten by Hiruko as his first and main example of what you'd get to do in the route. However Luka specifically says it's mostly that he feels bad for some of the calamities. Notably, it's only some of them. He goes out of his way to help WD and Koron and a few others in his time montage, but when it comes to Echidna Luka literally doesn't even TRY to save or help her and telefrags her in seconds. In fact, killing her specifically was the second thing he did, and the first was just getting Sonya to not nuke Pornof. Given everyone loses it over Promestein revealing she actually saved Echidna specimens for science reasons and they managed to turn into a giant monster in the process since they're no longer microscopic, which is also pointed out, Luka may genuinely not be intending to save the space aids virus and she may be recruited through something much more stupid and mundane involving Prome, because Prome just can't help herself.
>>570075772I do wonder what their first thoughts were when they first saw humans. I just have a picture in my head of Ilias trying to get her sister to start acting like a god again by showing her the slaves that will worship them. Probably did a test run of some poor saps whose first experience with a monster is Fat Alice of all beings.
>>570076312Humans aren't that alien, tbf, they're just downgraded Alves. Assumedly the ancestors and such fucked Alves given they became elves. Succubi had to come from SOMEWHERE before humans were made
>>570076520Most of them were dead by the time they were kids, and the Alfs were a majority women, with men rarely being born.Succubi could have been originally bats for all we know. 7DS might not have cursed those succubi who turned into vampires with blood hunger, but simply reawakened a old animal property that Minagi tried to stamp out.
If the ancestors and ancient monsters were largely doing it with animals to reproduce, why were said ancient monsters so strong compared to monsters that reproduce with humans. In fact we have evidence that doing that just makes em weaker, like with the dragonkin stuff. What did trtr mean by this
>>570077257unstable and degenerate creatures who were incapable of sustaining themselves in the long term. look at what protohumans were like.modern day equivalents are "weaker" but superior in terms of the capacity for overcoming obstacles (you can't improve if you never need to), potential for growth, are stabilized and compact with efficient body plans, and of course, they are happy.
>>570075772It's to give even then grossest, most disgusting self-inserter a frame of reference. "This monster girl rapes dogs and animals. I'm sure even I would be more enjoyable to rape than a dog."
>>570077257It was already said in Part 3 that the ancestors reproduced magically, but some people are still obsessed with bestiality huh.
>>570078154I mean, to be fair it was trtr who added it to the lore, I don't really know what the point of it when he could've just used alves as a stopgap but here we are
>>570077257because the creatures monsters bred with back then (dragons, alves, banshee) were a lot more powerful than humans. Humans are generally downgrades to alves which is why current monsters are mostly weaker than older monsters.
>>570078295I'm pretty sure Koron eradicated all of the dragons before any monsters other than the ancestors were born, and as far as we know aren't the banshees all female? Jury is out on the Alves though
>>570078434Banshee are the ones up in the air, since we have little, to no info on them before they decided to join their psycho lord in her tragic time loop. If they had men, they went extinct because somehow the all-female mermaids are descendants of this species.Alves had men, but they were super rare. This was clearly one of the issues Ilias tried to correct.
>>570072284You know you're a retard when Kanon and Hiruko are more sympathetic than your retardation.Of course the real reason is that this is for comedy.
>>570082457I would marry them both and make very them happy.
It's cool how Kanon and Hiruko are somehow still more sympathetic than Gabriela
>>570086000Gabriela is absolutely more sympathetic. Kanon isn't even in a bad spot.
>>570086594t. gabriella
>>570083616>I would marry them both and make very them full.Fixed that for you.
>>570076175You say that as if the Ancestors were always ready willing to take portshots at heach others, meaning Kanade, Hiruko.
>>570077257Average powerlevel was higher because wars were common. Outside the HK you only really get a high power level in the comfy age if you want to be a queen, monster lord, or their guard.
These arent even monstergirls they are spawned by Aliens they are alien girls guys it should be called Alien girl quest.
>>570090992He's out of line, but he's right.
>>570090992aliens can't be monsters?
>>570086732>anon would cook for his wives every dayBut of course, we're all devoted husbands in this general.
>>570090992
>>570083616Til death do us part...
>>570094681why is it called armor if it doesnt cover her arms
>>570094681Now this is an orc girl!
>>570094681>armored bikini>those scarstry wearing some proper armor next time you stupid whore
I wonder how Worldbreaker and Judgement will work once they join.Will they join as they are, or will Luka need to fuse with Alice, the spirits/Ilias, Lucifina, Michaela?And then, there's Judgebreaker.It sound a bit bullshit to have all of them on the same team after all.
>>570106548https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYV36DZuNCgShe should be in her loli form, and then evolve into her goddess form for her ultimate or something. Adding Goddess Ilias is like adding Goku.She is pretty unga too.Aww, she has an Eden colorset!
Aran retweeted old Sphinx doodles so I translated them
>>570119780snek blowjobs
>>570030715I rather suspect that's not a great translation.>"Let me suck your big tits with my huge boobs"Yeah, that seems wrong.I decided to try out DeepL (still not gonna be perfect I know) just to see how it compares."Defeated by Kanae, Ruka had his life drained away along with his semen.The body of the hero, now reduced to a squeezed-out husk, was blended with that of Kanae, the progenitor slime,and reborn as a direct descendant.With its cold, slimy body and enormous breasts,the slime captivates men, steadily draining their essence and growing ever larger–––【Titty-Fuck Slime】Hey, big brother’s cockLet me make it go slurp-slurp between my big boobs "Seems better but still not perfect. "titty fuck slime" makes more sense in context than "pussy slime"
>>570087750rephrase this in english
>>570000182https://catbox.moe/c/pn56he
>>570125362Mikabu is so cute
>>570125362Magazine!
I downloaded the latest ArzorX's translation for part 3 and the raw JP game. Do I have to get the MTL for the untranslated parts?
>>570125210Why are you so butthurt?
>>570130584Ridiculing your laughably terrible grammar is not being "butthurt", but you getting upset about it sure is. Not my fault what you wrote was barely even legible.I'm sorry for taking potshots at you.Oh, no I'm sorry, that's "portshot" according to your language lol. How do you even turn each into "heach".
>>570135223Anon, deep breath, that was a joke.
I have commited a sin so vile, I'm probably going to get the Luddite treatment.Maybe it's normal that ExTuple take so much time being set up after all.
>>570135878you didn't need to post this three times anon
>>570138918I was trying to fix the sound on it, my apologies. Sometimes they die and can't be fixed so I was looking for ways to do so
>>570039031I don't think he's tired because of his knowledge about the universe being doomed, rather. he's just tired from being forced to reconstruct and rule a kingdom he had no idea he was part of, i mean Nero and Neris talk about how VN Luka has no free time and the few times he has some time to bond with his kids is stolen by Alice draining him
>>570124225MTL is more eloquent than me... that's a little disappointing
>>570106917what the fuck>Bar-Kun in creditsiirc he made a pretty good Sonic and Rumia as well>It's actually heati play rivals all the time, too
>>570163031One of them isn't like the others.
>>570163120I agree, Raphaela needs to remember to wear appropriate clothing for picture day.
>>570163031Sandalphone is 100% lewd and 100% nude. I want her to pound my ass with her nuclear dildo while Metatrnone sucks me off.
anyone happen to know how trtr spaghetti'd the class system into giving characters their different base stats?I can see there's data in the class list for each character (there's four 'luka' classes, for example, and alice's different forms are pic related) so I know he did it by making filler classes with each actor's name, but I still can't tell how he actually linked them to each actor, because from everything I can see it's not present in any of the trait data.I'm making progress on working with traits, though, so there's that. I think I know how I may be able to add a new character to start trying to test the feasibility of it for this particular version at least, but I want to know how he did this first since there's just a lot of plug-ins and stuff that I don't really get how he did.
>>570138467
>>570195959It most likely has something to do with the scripts, which are literally the Gate of Hell. I guess if you find a description of the classes, you are on the good path?The guy also put skll booster and LoC Seals into it classes! I can't even...
>>570176350>nuclear dildoFinally I'm not the only one wo thing of it as a weird ass tiny dildo.
>>570195959It's insane. I've messed around with RPGmaker games before, and was thinking of making some new stuff for Paradox (adding a new character or adding a new ring scene for my waifu) and holy shit, how the fuck trtr managed to make everything work I'll never know. The guy clearly had no idea what he was doing and just kind of winged it all, and it's impressive it all works, but I can also see why it took him a decade to get it out.
>>570203467You should see the damage of Extuple. I've hit undecillion and apparently duodecillion.And it's starting to not be enough at 3XX Carnage. The HP are rising so fast!
>>570208061Autism and coding knowledge. I've been thinking of doing the same, but since this isn't your normal RPGM game, I ran like a bitch.>but I can also see why it took him a decade to get it out.I don't think that's the reason...
>>569930190I still find it laughably retarded that P!Tamamo just never got unsealed before (or after) the final fight.
>>570208061Wow, if he can make a dlsite GOTY like Paradox just by winging it all, I look forward to seeing what talented anons like you can do with RPGmaker.
>>570209758>dlsite GOTYImagine if the Game Awards people had to grapple with the concept of MGQP getting a fuckton of nominations for GOTY
>>570208061You should have seen the BS dev, he was heavily autistic, he ran into the limit for adding items during development
>>570125362>https://catbox.moe/c/pn56heVery much appreciated, thank you
>>570214181He actually ran out of skills. He still had a lot of space for items but he reached the 999 skill limit in the database and couldn't make custom skills for Lorde's sword so he didn't add the weapon.He should have used a script to increase the limit, though.
I've been looking for a new monster species to fill a last slot: horse, caster, non-taur, and that made be realize that I can't recall any arcane caster horses in media, at best you get a cleric unicorn. Kinda weird how often mythology has wind/waterday/night associated horses.>>570208061Every framework has limitations and the more it does behind the scenes the worse those restrictions are. When you do hit those limits, you need to some black magic bullshit to dance around the entire system. Like today at work, I needed to have the program rewrite it's own code every hour to get around engine limitations. I imagine paradox looks equally cursed under the hood.If anons here are interested in game development I suggest they learn set theory and SQL, it makes so many item/class/skill issues so much easier.
>>570212454Didnt this site at some point fuck over kotaku almost making the original trilogy voted as the top game in kotaku.Paradox would mog. Literally so much jrpg you need a month to do generally everything.
We're a little less than 24 hours from the deadline for 1 or 2 weeks given in the last post about Monster Girl dreams for the update, do you think it will be out in time?
>Playing MGQ>Meet a new girl>Smash [Surrender] to get the CGsHey, I just met you,And this is crazy.But here's my penis,So rape me, maybe?
>see earthworm girlOh, worm!>see sealed TamamoHave you ever seen a woman so beautiful you started crying?>meet SylphBeautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure>chaos tears apart my timeline and kills my entire family leaving me as the sole survivorDID YOU JUST
>>570225931Yuphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-TMJjr6lKk>>570208061rpgmaker sucks. For everything except being completely premade. the documetation is kinda shit and I think up until recently it used javascript, and nobody wants to use javascript.
>>570226920You are a fake person.Extra timelines means the system is malfunctioning, and you shouldn't exist.
Things like snakes are disgusting on the outside, and on the inside... hmm, they're pretty disgusting too.
>>570229587Extremely rude, I personally think Snakes are pretty Solid.
>>570229587Luka please calm down you're supposed to like coexistence for real now
>>570229587Just wait until you see PLANTS and INSECTS. And Hirukos.
I find it funny how Chaos eventually fall off in LoC, and not just a tiny bit, she fall off HARD.Such is the fate of characters that don't have Crisis.
Was thinking about giving MMTD a shot. What;s the best way if I want to play 18+ on computer, DMM player?
>>570230580She'd be broken if null element wasn't nerfed since her trait boosts every chaos element, it's easy to see why null got nerfed though.
>>570230580who doesn't fall off in LoC? I tried it and eventually I started doing like 0 dmg because shit was ultra stat bloated at like floor 30 or something like that
>>570231393>>570231428Some fall off harder than others. Luka barely fall off because of his Crisis trait and unique skills. Very quickly, his skill other than Heroism will do nothing, and Heroism will barely scratch the HP bar. Chaos doesn't have crisis, so eventually she is doomed.It's truly the Luka Bowl. I'm only going it to see how far I can take things because I'm that thirsty for contents.
>>570233674Bro you didn't censor her snussy
>>570233829it's ok because it's not a "pussy", rather it's a special "semen extractor organ"you wouldn't censor tail pussy, so you shouldn't censor snussy
>>570234421>semen extractor organisn't that the very definition of pussy
>>570234421This feels like a succ trying to explain why being bottomless in a grade school is fine, actually.
The world favors the first person to eat a crab, but it will not favor the second.
>>570236684Many men want monster girls but not what it takes to get them.
Ah yes.CRAB PUSSY
>>570207837Abilities seem to be both classes and armor and he got them to work by having them coded to behave as if they're one thing that then tags the other to activate the desired effect and I have no idea how this was done.>>570208061He was working on Paradox during Part Three and the first part of it was released only two years after the original story had been finished; considering most of the systems in place originated from that part and didn't change who even knows how long it took him to actually pull these things off? It's kind of amazing.>>570218805No, it was the inverse. MGQ was voted for and I believe it even got to first place, but Kotaku refused to believe that it was anything other than a joke from trolling and discarded it on the basis it was pornographic and not actually voted for. This was what led to everyone calling it "GOTY for all years" if I'm remembering it correctly.This was also during the period of time where MGQ had actually broken containment. Tamamo in particular; as the "Touch Fluffy Tail" meme originated from her, and then got picked up by Dark Souls players for describing the dragon girl in the painting who's name escapes me at the moment because she also had a fluffy tail, and then it evolved into it's own thing from there.
>>570218743>"I can't recall any arcane caster horses in media">The Humble (Night)Mare:The flaming demon horse should probably fit your bill if you want something that's not strictly darkness and nightmare associated. Sure it's more the D&D version of the monster but it works. Or you can just call it a Bakotsu if you want, but Nightmare just sounds cooler.>>570236684crab
>>570241371>Abilities seem to be both classes and armor and he got them to work by having them coded to behave as if they're one thing that then tags the other to activate the desired effect and I have no idea how this was done.Your best bet, and I hate myself for suggesting it, is to copy the game, translate what isn't translated, Items/Weapons/Equips/etc' Notes, and the scripts with AI, and then, finally, study them.This is a hell I don't want, but if you are brave enough to deepdive into it..And seriously Torotoro, just separate items in different catagories PLEASE.>and then got picked up by Dark Souls players for describing the dragon girl in the painting who's name escapes me at the moment because she also had a fluffy tailPriscilla!
>>570234421Being milked by an impersonal tail that did it a thousand times before while the girl ignores it and browses her phone is hot.
>>570230345>And Hirukos.But Hirukos are quite cute!
>>570246724this but unironically
>>570246724>>570246967She is dressed like a commie.
>>570247848True
>>570241808I miss tinyfixes anon, he'd probably know how to do this stuff, or at least be better at finding the solution. I barely even figured out how to edit traits in the notefile to fix some of the bugs trtr left behind and I eventually gave up on that because I couldn't figure out how to revert the change he made to counters for the old part one and two girls.It's also been long enough that I seem to have forgotten a decent amount of the information about the game that I had initially learned while I was undertaking that process.>copy the game, translate what isn't translatedA year or two back that's somewhat what I did. I didn't copy the game itself, just information inside of it's note files that was untranslated in order to understand it better, back when I was trying to fix bugs, or add a cut-in for one particular girl.For instance, elements and skill types are organized in such a way that the internal information in the files is slightly delayed, so their actual numerical id code is one off (ex: "physical" is on line two, which might make it seem like the id is '2', but line one is just the "" denoting the start of the list so the actual id for the element is '1'.) Multiple bugs I found in traits stemmed from trtr occasionally forgetting to account for the delay in the list and writing the id for the element based on the line it had on the list, which is completely understandable given how many traits there are.But understanding parts of the trait system is the most I understand of the spaghetti.Anything like how he linked actors to have the base stats or something is not in my grasp yet.As far as creating a test case for seeing if I actually get how it works though, I have made progress on that. I believe I have even figured out how to give Okyuu her "+2 tentacle" trait the way anons suggested would be the best way to implement it.
>>570230345
>>570248843The bestest part is trying to locate the place that is linked to what you want to do, and then trying to modify them yourself.Bestest is sarcasm by the way, the numbers of scripts in there is just too much, so good luck translating them, good luck reading all of them, good luck having code language in your brain, good luck working on them, and good luck making it work.Translation within translation.>>For instance, elements and skill types are organized in such a way that the internal information in the files is slightly delayed, so their actual numerical id code is one off (ex: "physical" is on line two, which might make it seem like the id is '2', but line one is just the "" denoting the start of the list so the actual id for the element is '1'.) Multiple bugs I found in traits stemmed from trtr occasionally forgetting to account for the delay in the list and writing the id for the element based on the line it had on the list, which is completely understandable given how many traits there are.Oh God, oh why.
>>570249145It's good that she know her place. Maybe she'll have a place in the Ark World.
>>570243204>a thousand times beforethat's like once every day for 3 yearsrookie numbers
>>570234421Seeing this image, is the Manticore the most actively inaccurate monster in MGE? >tail isn't a scorpion tail>ears aren't lion ears>claws closer to MGE wolves then MGE catsThey bricked the wiki, so I can't check>wings like MGE demons instead of MGE dragons - granted, those are inconsistent anyway>>570248843>>570250041I remember those lists being posted a while ago. It looked pretty bad back then and the more I hear the more I get the urge to break open the game and reimplement everything on a clean base.
>>570251541>I remember those lists being posted a while ago. It looked pretty bad back then and the more I hear the more I get the urge to break open the game and reimplement everything on a clean base.Please, make a section for every items then. I beg of you. I sudoku to you. I kneel to you.Because you'll need every once of gratitude. Sisyphus would look at this, and go back to his rock.
>>570250762the bee girls are nice, don't be rude.
>>570257113Bug girls are the only ones that have admitted to fucking animals.
>>570259516#NotAllBugs
>>570257113The exception that prove the rule. Kill all bugs and plants! KILL ALL BUGS AND PLANTS!
I liked plant princess
>>570250762Wrong, I love bug girls and they are better than the fises who cuck you
>>570263346 won't go to the promised land.
>>570263798So be it, I will be in my bug swarm hive, impregnating more insects as I show them love
>>570259516Like I said in a older thread, if you ship Ann and the GG King, this is good The poor squid bastard as someone who can properly fuck him since she as a lot of experience milking marine life.An army of tentacled ant girls can happen.
>>570263979You will be the impregnated one... this is why you are unfit for the Promised Land.
>>570264131So be it, I will love them no matter what.
>>570264239Judgement, judge this guy quick. He will kill himself and others!
>>570127595*Maganabe>>570130092*Kanon
>>570265515Me and my near endless swarm of bug daughters(Who I love very much) the moment he shows up
>>570266418lol lmao even
>>570266543>>570266543The pelt is from Tomamo when she tried that dollar store back stab at me after I invaded her town(Some of my wives and daughters always wanted to live there but weren't allowed)
woof
>>570267045>scalie for lizards>furry for girls with furWhat is it called when you want to fuck the bug?
>>570266418>>570267045I'm so conflicted with Invincible. It has a lot of stuff I like but also some of the dumbest subplots imaginable like Eve's abortion.
>>570276452I just watch it for the Viltrumites, almost every other character is awful compared to them
>>570273813You're a bugger.
>>570276657I disagree somewhat on the latter but yes the Viltrumites are one hell of a selling point. Specially Conquest.I think Invincible nails a society that adapted to superhero bullshit pretty well and I particularly love the subplots of Cecil and the security and the stuff they have to do to save the world.I feel like it's one of those series the author had a way different intention when he wrote it and people liked it for another reason, kind of like Joker, but it had a lot for me to enjoy.
>>570279517True, but at the same time Viltrumites are also the biggest drawback, since they're so tanky fights with them either do nothing or near instakill them compared to others. I do agree with you about Cecil and Donald, they do what people hope the government actually did.Also the Viltrumites have to be one of the stupidest races I swear, even Sayians aren't as bad as they are when it comes to parenting
>>570280045Yeah I agree with that. Their presence means there is little for people with diverse powers to do since they are tanking and breaking everything bare-handed.
>>570281010Though seeing Viltrumites fall like monster girls after being forced to be around humans was nice though. I also felt really bad for conquest
Choose 2 to protect you. The others will try and rape you. The ones you choose will also rape you.
>>570286157Mimi would never.
>>570286307She sleep rapes you.
>>570286434Mimi would never.
Heya I played part 2 years ago at this point and finally got around to checking out part 3, with all the links available in the OP which would you recommend, the prepatched 3.04 one?
>>570287263It's good enough, more than good enough! Go for it! Thought there are a few bugs like Transform, and names that aren't correct, so you may as well go for 06.
>>570287406What's the difference between Bob and Manuel? I'm pretty retarded but I guess I can figure out patching a game if one is better than the less effort versionAlso I'd like to be spoiled about one thing only: are there new unique foxgirls in part 3 and if yes how many
>>570286157Pochi and Vanilla, because they offer the best anti-rape protection (persistent loud barking noises are not good rape BGM, which will deter the majority of predators). And also I would be the most satisfied with their rape.
>>570287845Bob is made by Bob, Manuel is made by Manuel... unless my memory is that bad.>are there new unique foxgirls in part 3 and if yes how manyYou are gonna love the white one. White ones.
>>570286157Two Minis. They can fly and together could carry me out of range of everyone else.
>>570289539Mini Big, and Mini Dark!Now you too, have the power of Deathgaze!
>>570286157MELK and Poochi please
>>570286157>I cant autodefault to Lona or Victoria>sadgeIf nobody got me, I know Papi and Gob got me
It's all foxed...
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>>570300029Give me a ring scene you meowling slut!
