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>News
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>foxes guy rape
>screaming husband
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>>569548764
Foxes won
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>>569548764
>semen monsters around
That's how it goes
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Manged to find those Big Vinum sets Shiki had paywalled. Some of the files don't seem to want to display as thumbnails, but still seem to open fully when you do that, fair waning.
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>>569548764
>girl Luka girls

Alas, last thread was but a brief reprive.
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>>569552128
My wife, Doppel, looks so different
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>>569548837
Here's their prize
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>>569551654
her face looks really cute when she's surprised like that
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>>569552264
>My wife, Doppel, looks so different

Ah, the bust size no doubt. That's just Setouchi's style in this case.
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>>569554041
Thank you so much for the image anon, I didn't know he drew more of her.
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I love Mini! She is so cute!
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>>569554703
When she asked me to join, I told her no.
She belongs in that spittoon
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>>569158558(Me)
And it just got teased for an international release, so look foward to that if you like dragon girls and maledom. I'm mostly here for the squad building aspect at this point though, figuring out the best unit titles, gear and squad combinations to challenge and overcome the harder difficulties gets addicting, i dunno if lagoons writing will reach the heights of hollow where the law route was satisfying and sylvia was an actual character and not a cardboard cutout of a person like tyrca or milia who's entire character arc was being gaslit/tentacle fugged by theofrad into accepting and loving having ether babies. Gaia's law character endings are so fucking weird, you have stuff like vanillas and lucrieta's being the most tame and lovey dovey with theofrad right next to milia and tomoes who're uber pregnant with ether babies don't even get me started on lala's events and ending like jeez
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>>569555261
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Don't worry they're just saying it to be mean. No one would actually do bully Mini. She's just too loveable.
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>>569554703
I want to BREED with her big form!

Phoenix girls count as a kind of harpy, and harpies can choose to give birth to boys. Would the son of a phoenix have any special powers?
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>>569548764
>"cope cuz strong always game, ilias"
>signed, big al
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>>569558298
Probably a strong alignment with the fire element instead of the wind element from a normal Harpy. We don't really have examples of boys born from monsters that aren't super special like Nero, everything else are descendants way down the family tree.
Would have been nice to hear just how strong Susanoo and the 1st prince of Sabasa were.
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Will Luka ever provide sons strong enough to make it up to all of the women he's teased?
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>>569558298
Reincarnation, obviously
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>>569560123
VN Luka stopped at two kids, and he was the super religious nutjob that was sexually repressed.
You think Singularity Luka is going to have more than that?
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Mini ain't Mini unless she's mini size.
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I love my cute phoenix daughter Mini, no matter her size!
And I also love My Wife Reina!
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>>569560669
Like alternate world Luka and his Beelzebub wife made a whole lot of kids. It's even mentioned at the end of the game when a pirate ship with dozens of Luka's beelzebub offspring invade the Singularity world.
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>>569548764
>Kanon marry
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>>569548764
>raped chaos
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>>569568082
better than how shiki makes her look that's for sure
even looks more bratty/childish
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>>569568082
Teenage Kanon? Funny, when it comes to these Ancestors its either sealed lolis, or fully grown up, never in between.
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>>569547470
Stupid sexy octopus
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>>569554703
There's a lot of MEAT in there.
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>>569559460
Sabassa King sorta counts.

So its prolly a cointoss on being a femboy that feels warm or a load of muscle that burns fire alight in his soul everlasting.
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>>569555681
Ragnarok Law was cool.
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>>569554703
My number 1 fetish is flat loli characters growing up and having a big chest. My only complaint is that big Mini doesn't have a titjob scene where she brags about her chest size. Maybe next time Jingai is taking commissions I'll pay for a picture like that.
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>>569577601
That's grooming!
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>>569575487
Is it? I'm still going through rag at the moment, its alright but feels like a step back from hollow, shota loki getting to fug fena and adult jorm is cool but the setup is kind of hard to believe, the whole divine supremacy shit starting up when loki founded everything and the goddess are descendants of frontier's goddesses, you know loki the half demon's wives/concubines. The world basically just being reset be frontier again rubs me the wrong way. Idk maybe it'll start to pick up after i finish the last goddess chapter.
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>>569555681
It still tickles me that Venus Blood has a harpy character named Lucretia, which just so happens to also be the name of the Queen harpy from MGQ (which we learned due to Paradox, which is in fact the newer game, the Gaia localisation came quite a bit after it's original Japanese release).

Need to somehow make Harpy anon know more about her...
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>>569578390
Loki has big plan on the long run, which may or may not be hypocritical, wink.
Ragnarok as a whole is a step back in a lot of things.
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>>569578496
Lucretia does mean profit/wealth, it's fitting for the VB birb girl.
And it was for the MGQ version, until Alice decided to be an ass and fire her. Big moment, my non featherly ass.
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>>569578496
shes fun
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We were robbed with Lucifina. AWLucifina kind of become tiring when she does the same joke over and over again with the same deadass stare, bullying our Ilias while pretending she didn't get character development for 2 whole ass parts, instead of bullying the Sub Ilias, the actual source of her misery. Lucifina is a fine hypocrite.
Plus, Actual Lucifina is sexier and prettier!

On the other hand... her moment with Eva was the best event ever!
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>>569580614
My jew wife cannot be this cute.
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>>569581147
Little Ilias only diverged a thousand years ago. For her second-oldest creation, that's no time at all. She's still guilty of everything before then.
She carries the lesson that there is no escaping punishment.
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Don't question Lucifina. Ever.
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>>569581523
Cool story, Ilias got character development, which no one can really boast, and also isn't guilty of most crimes AWLucifina punishe her for.
Repeat: Why doesn't do that to Sub Ilias, the actual source of her misery?

>>569581658
*Don't question AWLucifina.
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>>569582186
Anon, Sub-Ilias is dead for most of the final route.
You know this.
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great another badwriting schizo
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>>569582534
And when she come back alive? Or are you being wilfully foolish while pretending I'm the foolish one?
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>>569582736
The adventure is over by the time you recruit her.
The Whiteyel quest shows us the most current state of the world, and Sub-Ilias is a some disgusting slob watching nature documentaries all day while poor AW Eden pay for her tiny apartment.
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>>569583162
Convenient! The adventure is over, so is the bullying.
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>>569583314
Reducing her son to a brain in a jar wasn't actually that big of a deal anyway.
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>>569582534
She's good now because Iliases are inherently good!
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>>569579004
While that's true I've always believed that Queen Lucretia was named after the historical Lucretia of Rome. I'm sure anyone familiar with the story would get why (and probably see the irony in it).
>>569578496
Well it's not like I'm the only Harpy Anon here anon, heck there's a lot of Mini and Lucretia fans in general. She seems fine judging from >>569580614, I've always enjoyed funny or loveable merchants or businessmen/woman, that's one of the big reasons why I love Okyuu so much.
>LMGTFY
>pull up results
>read about her
>experimented on by Theo?
>who is Theo?
>Theo is the Protagonist, and his plan is-
Tell me there's some kind of good ending or good route for this game that doesn't involve whatever on earth that guy's trying to do, holy shit he sounds like a completely demented psychopath to varying degrees of "worse" and "gets increasingly worse somehow". Whatever he did to that poor reincarnated Phoenix he claimed to love should end with him being shot.
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>>569578301
Yeah monsters groom males for their semen to get a more consistent supply.
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>>569587398
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
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>>569587590
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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>>569547470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lcP3JgCRL0
Squirrels.
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I need to replay succubus acadameia because i i thought i got everything right except i missed one of the cameo bosses so i got the loop ending FUCK YOU PFKS
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>>569587590
If you get eaten by Alma Elma, are you indirectly kissing her?
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>>569591026
What is oral vore, if not very deep passionate kissing
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>>569555681
>i dunno if lagoons writing will reach the heights of hollow where the law route was satisfying
hoping for this
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>>569583598
>Reducing her son to a brain in a jar wasn't actually that big of a deal anyway.
Did Luka ever fix that
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>>569555681
Gaia chaos is the best written route in the series tho
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>>569555681
I've heard that Law in Lagoon is ass compared to Chaos, so it's the opposite of Hollow.
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>>569594825
Lab blew up, so that one should be dead
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>>569594825
Probably not. The worlds are fused, he can't exactly resurrect him. First and last time we saw him was on the lab, where it blew up.
Actually, he can, and probably should, but don't question Lucifina, I mean Torotoro.
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>>569581147
If not wife, why wife-shaped?
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>>569606681
It's not wife shaped, it's

wedding angel shaped
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>>569606681
if this is lucifina stop cucking marcellus rn stop it dude wait till your dad is dead before cucking him
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>>569607847
It's alright, she is brown haired, not the blond one. So it's not cucking.
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>>569607971
Ilias feels pretty cucked she gave her a disease so she wouldnt get cucked.
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some questions for paradox
>who should I make my merchant slave?
I was just making the flex slot in my team merchants but then I realized you can't use merchant skills after swapping out so it's just vanilla vs eva for now.
>how important are alchemists
an anon told me I need to keep one in my party to get materials. Looking at my roster only Lucia feels like an option.
>Lime is never leaving the party
How should I build her? She's done with master thief as my chest opener so I guess it's time to branch out but idk what. Could make her another merchant or gadabout I guess?

I'm going to get Gnome now, if that helps. Thank you for reading my wall of text.
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>>569611635
Lucia is probably the best alchemist in the game until part 3, just because she gets a free all-stat buff by doing anything. The only other one who gets anything close to that is Crowley, who gets a small chance of activating magical/physical immunity.
It's pretty crazy to think that it took until Arcule that someone with Alchemy priority shows up. TrTr really did not want us to have a instant Alchemy action.
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>>569611635
>who should I make my merchant slave?
Ashel or Daji. Though it's less Merchant slave and more like HM Slave.

>an anon told me I need to keep one in my party to get materials. Looking at my roster only Lucia feels like an option.
That's more of a Part 3 concern, but I think your Anon was talking about Complete Plunder which will make future farming easy, but you will need to farm a lot of Gold Dust, Magic Mercury, and even Philosopher Stone for it, which stop being a concern in Part 3 since you can farm them on Arcubus, which, conveniently, is also the best Alchemist user, flat.

>Lime is never leaving the party
By using her Throwing and Slime skills?

>>569612279
>It's pretty crazy to think that it took until Arcule that someone with Alchemy priority shows up. TrTr really did not want us to have a instant Alchemy action.
Hey wait a minute, you're right!
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>>569611635
>who should I make my merchant slave?
Doesn't matter, just pick whoever you like using. Vanilla is fine and one of the few Part 1 characters to get a buff in Part 3.
>how important are alchemists
I never bothered with alchemists, but you can collect alchemist items from battles if you have one in your party. Again, it doesn't really matter who you pick. Lucia is fine.
>Lime is never leaving the party
Later on, slimes get the ability to take multiple actions per turn, so like all slimes she'll scale extremely well with any build you want to give her. She gets an innate bonus with Throwing attacks, so I'd focus on that. Go thief and Hunter and then adventurer (adventurer gets a bonus with boomerangs) and keep focusing on throwing classes. For end-game, an easy top build with be a Shield Hero one. Shield Hero is a tank-type that can equip two shields and can use Defense in place of other stats for Throwing. The slime ability that lets you split to take extra actions reduces your Attack/Magic/Dex but not your Defense, so you'll still be getting full damage with lots of attacks.
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>How should I build...
Apprentice Hero 8, Power Fighter 6
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Kids these days don't pick girls they like anymore. They just use "all characters talk" and chase meta.
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>>569585017
>Spoiler text

Venus blood games have 2 routes, the Law route, and the Chaos route.

The nature of Venus Blood Gaia means even on Law some kinda screwy stuff happens, but the ending is good. And Titi is the purest girl in all the Venus Blood games, she's the only girl who has a high amount of plot relevance, and 0 H scenes. What happens to her in the Chaos route is largely the fault of an antagonist.
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>>569617274
And in True Chaos, Theo does try to save her anyway.
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>>569617274
Venus Blood games always go too far with mixing the fetishes up. Corruption is hot but I don't want my whole army running trains on my main girls and giving a girl a wedding dress to get only get NTR'd by some bullshit hentai logic shit.
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>>569617463
The MC of most of the games are evil, and not in the edgy anti-hero kind of way, like legit evil.
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>>569616452
What a terrible sin that no one has ever done, in the past or present.

Rest in Peace Mitsuko, you will always be loved.
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>>569612862
>HM Slave

What does that even stand for?
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>>569617679
Hidden Machine Slave
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>>569617463
>saying that
>in the mggg thread
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>>569617679
Pokémon term for Hidden Machine like cut.
HM slaves are those Pokémon on the team that has all these moves that are terrible in battle, but are needed to progress through the game.
For Paradox, it's somewhat the same since you don't want your main team to waste AP. Abilities like lockpicking, recruitment up, and ambush negation that are not useful in combat, but you would want to have since it makes the game's progress easier.
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Roughly in 10 hours /mggg/ will play its first match against /zzz/ in VGL26. Join us and cheer for our team to dryf-, crush this season!

https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
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>>569617850
Most monster girl games are fairly vanilla femdom. The idea of having my prostate crushed, my penis, mocked, and my balls squeezed dry is much nicer than your alternate evil self recording an NTR tape of your favorite maid and sending it to you to piss you off.
I don't know who wants that but it isn't me.
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>>569618157
>Most monster girl games are fairly vanilla femdom.
>The idea of having my prostate crushed, my penis, mocked, and my balls squeezed dry is much nicer than your alternate evil self recording an NTR tape of your favorite maid and sending it to you to piss you off.
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>>569617463
>Venus Blood games always go too far with mixing the fetishes up
Yeah, can be a weird mixed bag. With most of the "vanilla" scenes concentrated in the law route/uncorrupted endings.

>giving a girl a wedding dress to get only get NTR'd by some bullshit hentai logic shit.
Yeah that one was infamous and a really weird case of their experimental Kickstarter added scenes. See, the localisations are funded by Kickstarter, and high tier backers can add a scene (and alt unit) of a girl of their choice, and the contents of the scene can be largely up to them. So some crazy guy paid for that. Notably, NTR like that was blacklisted as an option in future kickstarters. Though, "Chaos route stuff where guy doesn't care about girl and so girl can get gangbanged or whatever" is still valid.

>>569617640
>The MC of most of the games are evil, and not in the edgy anti-hero kind of way, like legit evil.
Ayup, general rule is law route involves protagonist chilling out in some way and becoming less evil/more like an anti hero, and chaos route involves going off the deep end.
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>>569618586
Didn't know about the kickstarter thing. That honestly explains a whole lot about that.

Reminds me of Darven from the pathfinder games, kek
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>>569617640
>>569618586
To be fair, the starter antagonists are always more evil than the MC, justifying the way he act. Even in Chaos, the new antagonist can generally be seen as worse than the MC even if the go the deep end. Ragnarok does away with that though.


>Notably, NTR like that was blacklisted as an option in future kickstarters
Get a better stomach guys holy shit. Do you guys have to become pussies?
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>>569618903
You're free to discuss your love of NTR in other generals. It's not a popular fetish in this one and never has been.
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>>569619260
Actually, I dislike it. I just hate people bitching about it because their little feefees can't handle it.
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>>569618903
N*R filth is not welcome here. Leave.
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>>569619928
Lucifina cheat on her husband with Luka.
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>>569620202
Anon... that's netori.
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>>569618903
It's not really a matter of being a pussy so much as how stupid the setup was to me. If you choose the cuck options and get cucked, whatever, you chose that. That scene was a bait and switch with a character where the whole premise just doesn't make much sense and I would have have just preferred a normal scene since her scenes were super lacking. The fan disc scene of her getting electro orgasm tortured can only make up for so much. Not everyone could be like Rigret, who had the best scenes.

Anyway, here is some new Tamamo cucking Alice.
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>>569620441
Venus Blood is like that sometime. Weirdly weird, so I understand you a lot actually.
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>>569616452
Actually, what's your guys meta team?
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I'm at my wits end here anons. I had BobMTL 3.06 running in joiplay before but now it crashes whenever a battle starts, in any save, and I can't figure out why. Any suggestions?
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>>569520224
Why bringing Eden when the subject is Lucifina and Micaela? Eden's storylines are over quickly. Sure, you can be satisfied with it, but it doesn't mean that other have to be, or that you are right.
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>>569617463
I could never get into the games, something about them just rubs me the wrong way
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>>569619376
>Actually, I dislike it. I just hate people bitching about it because their little feefees can't handle it.
Have you ever considered that sometimes the maker of something DOESN'T like [a given thing] and sometimes like a retard just bends to requests when he shouldn't have?
I see this a lot in these niches. Hell, you make any damn game in western space and you're likely to get people asking for gay shit, furries, etc as "options" but really they're just gonna spam any project with traction to see who caves to them.

>>569618586
This summary reads to me like something of the above, where they didn't leave wiggle room to decline or whatever, so they caved to some faggy whale's request.
This is why even if you crowdfund, you don't agree to jack fuckin shit. You may not pull in some whale, but at least you also dodge the unhinged obsessed autists who shop around to spam commissions.

Honestly, it makes the autism of skeb and such make sense.
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>>569630424
Are you the CEO of Venus Blood? Or one of the devs? It's not like NTR is really something they never do. The only game they seemingly put a ban on it was Ragnarok with Loki's grills.
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>>569630729
>present hypothetical
>ntrfag spergs out and takes it personally
>"Are you the CEO of Venus Blood?"
Are you?
No?
Shut the fuck up then, you're just arguing for arguing when all I did is speculate a reasonable sequence of events.
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>>569630917
That's a nice green strawman you got there.
The hypothetical or sequence of event you are proposing is dumb. Ninetail has done NTR since before we knew they existed. There is no shouldn't have, they already did, and will probably continue to do so.
On top of that, this is an eastern series of games, and eastern doesn't care or even understand our sensibilities. For them, that's normal, and our opinions is worth less than nothing unless we are paying, and even that is a scretch since they might have learned one lesson and that is, let's not NTR the heroines in future international releases.
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Didn't knew I was in twitter with people deciding what japanese devs should and shouldn't do
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>>569547470
>Oh this girl is cute
>Levels her up
>She anal rapes me
>Oh this girl is hot
>Levels her up
>She grows a futa cock and anal rapes me
Am I just unlucky or does this game have a lot of this?
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>>569585017
HEY! Theo only uses titie as a human shield on chaos route! But uh yeah your not wrong, even on law the "good" route the venusblood protagonists are still pretty morally dubious at best, they just end up making the world a bit better instead of going full edgelord
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What monster girl game has the best romance, would you say? Not the hottest sex scenes or just characters you enjoy but full on romantic chemistry
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>>569628336
>Why bring up Eden when the subject is Lucifina-Chan and Lucifina-Chan is central to Eden's development and the part being complained about is specifically just an event between her and Eden that focuses on Eden
Uh, gee, I dunno anon?
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>>569633926
Theo is a turbo autist. I'm not kidding, the dude, even on Law, seems to not be able to grasp morality at all. Other protagonists bypass morality with words, Theo? He's just confused about it.
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>>569618268
>>569618903
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>>569634237
I think he's just a genuine sociopath, everything in the name of science, and also titie i guess because she saved his life and stuck by him at his lowest but still mostly science.
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>>569634593
Do you ever wonder if Hiruko actually enjoy eating fur, hair, mustache, feather, etc? That would be disgusting. Maybe killing her would be a mercy.
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>>569634849
She enjoys eating cement, so yes.
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You can like what you like I guess but everything more I see about these games makes them sound like genuine shit; either that or something that belongs in the 2dhg containment zone.
>>569634849
no, she's a literal glue eater, why would she care about hair
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It was brought up to me that Alma's first encounter in the VN is really kind of weird given her characterization these days, as well as Alice's. Alma sees this guy standing right next to the monster lord so he's clearly not actually a threat, and yet Alma comes up with an extremely obviously flimsy excuse to attempt to kill him anywyas, which Alice acquiesces to for some fuckass reason. Why is Alma just killing some rando who clearly isn't a threat? Why is Alice giving Alma the explicit okay to kill a dude who she knows isn't a threat?
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>>569635147
People hate that question and will answer with this: Something something she only kill people who are a threat, attack first, ask for sex, or are heroes.
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>>569635310
Luka is a hero, sure, but that kind of justification falls apart instantly given that Luka is, as mentioned, standing right next to the Monster Lord. It comes off as Alma just really wanting to kill Luka for some reason
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>>569632453
Luka takes it up the ass a lot.
>>569635147
>these days
Paradox Alma is a very different character from the original Alma, there you go you answered the question.
Why is original Alma an asshole? Because she's an asshole. She has like three scenes in the first two parts. She views it like a game and doesn't take you or anything seriously.
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>>569618903
they have double standard where the girl literally eat children or vore them alive it aceptable but mention ntr and they went apeshit
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>>569635543
Don't make me roll me eyes you faggot, no one here has some kind of neanderthal double standard like that I can hate all of those things.
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>>569635147
VN alma always does whatever she wants
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>>569635478
Sure you can say that Alma's an asshole in the VN but that still doesn't clear up why Alice makes no attempt to clear up the situation or so no to Alma. She just allows her to kill luka. Given the wording that Alma is claiming that this is self defense and not that she just wants to play with them that could be easily taken as she GENUINELY wants him dead but she just lets it happen anyways. What a cunt.
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>>569634087
Unfortunately, none have even come close to being as developed as VN Alice and Luka, so they're the best.
Second best probably Lampas and Kazuya. They meet early, help each other in and out of battle, and Lampas grows comfortable expressing her love without hurting him while remaining true to herself.
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>>569635147
Heroes are free game because they are blessed agents of Ilias that kill monsters. Paradox doesn't have these people anymore, with 30 years altered world history.
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>>569635449
I never said it was a smart answer. People like to whitewash her.

>>569635478
>Paradox Alma is a very different character from the original Alma
That's a new one though. Either Alma still doesn't take Luka or anything seriously unless it's her mom or Minagi.
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>>569635678
Alice wants Luka to prove himself, like she usually does. If a hero survives on handouts how's the hero gonna kill her like she's planning for him to?
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>>569635704
Total lampas death
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>>569635864
there's free handouts and there's "not letting your guy get smurfed by the endgame enemy when he's level ten"
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>>569635638
You are the minority it seem
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>>569635982
Alma elma was just playing, its not like she was serious or anything
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>>569635815
>That's a new one
it's really not, she's more serious and much less of an asshole. She does take Luka seriously, and even mentions she dislikes it when people see through her, so the whole thing's just an act. It's why she was complained about less, and why she's the one put in the hero position for telling MW to go fuck themselves and sides with Luka trusting his judgement (even if she hopes to get to punch Minagi in the face she'll go with what he believes is right), whereas Granberia is turned into their enforcer who just comes to kill Alma because the succubus didn't want to poison wells and assassinate people.
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>>569636142
She does outright kill you if you lose the right, though. So no she was dead serious in asking Alice if she had permission to kill and Alice gave it.
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>>569635982
>endgame enemy
she literally does that with Granberia and bluntly tells her to leave.
Alma Elma, by contrast, is not going all out in the first fight, she makes a joke of it and says she'll only fight you with no arms or legs, and then she just leaves when she has to catch your sword with her hands because she broke the rules so she lost.
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>>569636267
Yeah, if luka was so weak that he lost to elma while she was hardcore handicaping herself with just her tail he deserved it
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>>569636308
The scenario is pretty different here, though. Alice stops granberia as she's about to kill luka whereas Alice essentially gave the order to have Alma kill luka before she even said she was going to handicap herself, as far as Alice knew she was about to just blow his head off. Especially given how seriously most monsters tend to take being challenged.
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>>569636357
Given how strong we're shown alma to actually be in a fight it feels like alma really should've been able to fodderize luka even with just her tail. Honestly kind of embarassing that she lost even as handicapped as she was
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>>569636478
Alma wouldn't do that though because that would be super boring, she enjoys playing with her food.
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>>569636150
I did said Part 3.

>>569636267
Like I said, people just love to whitewash her. Just don't think about it.
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Given how fast Alma actually is given we know that she casually dodges Granberia's attacks and what with being Knight of the wind, if Alma was ACTUALLY only using her tail as she said she would've essentially just predation instakilled luka and it would've been more of a thing to embarrass him than be an actual handicap. It's more like "i'll only use my tail and 10% of my actual speed" Overall, I still find it really weird Alma's just going out of her way to start fights and Alice is letting it happen.
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>>569637413
Like I said, just don't think too hard about it. People love to whitewash her or find excuses.
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>>569637413
She starts fights with only heroes.
She says it at the end of Part 2. They are a threat to monsters, and she deals with them as a monster queen.
Of course we don't see any of in the VN, and only in Paradox, where heroes aren't the blessed murderhobos anymore.
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>>569636698
>part 3
irrelevant to my point, if anything Alma's even more serious in Part 3 of Paradox anyway
>whitewash
I'm not sorry for being able to separate personal feelings from a character's objective behavior. Paradox Alma is fine. The original one is more murderous but ultimately just someone who screws around constantly and gave you a free win, and Luka has to deliberately go out of the way to lose that fight.
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>>569637841
>They are a threat to monsters
Hahahahahahahah
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>>569637841
I know, but as brought up. Luka is obviously not a threat to monsters, because if he would he wouldn't be on the same ship as Alice. There is no way in hell that Alma could ever actually see Luka as a credible threat to monsters. Granberia had more of an excuse because to her Luka was just some random guy unattached to Alice until she stepped in, Alma has no excuse
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>>569637992
Luka nearly kills a slug girl by dumping a packet of salt on her and he barely knows what he's doing at that point.
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>>569637992
Like I said, the VN lacks a lot. But if there is dialogue saying it's happening, it must be happening somewhere.
>>569638075
Luka kills Alice in some AU. Alma was right that Luka would become a threat to monsterkind.
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>>569637901
>Paradox Alma is fine.
Not really? She had to be told to not fuck around. Until Part 3, then she get her moments, and then more or less become irrelevant.

>I'm not sorry for being able to separate personal feelings from a character's objective behavior.
Someone felt called out I see.
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>>569638314
I feel like if we're judging people on what they did in alternative timelines then everyone is guilty of execution
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>>569638421
Are you saying that Alice is an insane bitch for killing Luka in the very first bad ending? No wayyyy...
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>>569638075
You are forgetting that Alice just lets Granberria turn Luka into a mind broken sex slave if he doesn't show off his new move.
VN Alice is just throwing Luka to the wolves, and not really stopping them from eating him.
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>>569638523
Guy didn't help me out of a hole? Humanity has fallen, billions must die
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>>569638207
Actually, he made her flee. But if that's true, I guess everyone is hero material.

>>569638314
It's a bit hard to take seriously, since humans are either, painfully incompetent, weak or both. In fact the game hammer down that humans aren't anywhere close to monsters.
It was such a blessing that they gave up on it in RPG.
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>>569638328
>Not really?
Yes, really.
>c-called out!
No. I was pointing out that your "argument" is retarded.
>"anyone who disagrees with me MUST be whitewashing her and just clearly choosing to ignore everything in the game"
is nonsense, and if anything sounds like pure projection from someone who just hates her and doesn't want to accept that Alma Elma is not in-fact as much of a giant prick as she's being made out to be. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. You can dislike her, but don't be a faggot about how anyone who does like her has to blind themselves or something.
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>>569638567
It really both contextualizes that luka honestly isn't that pathetic to need constant redos because he gets comically unlucky with smurfing scenarios and that Alice is a bitch with comedically high standards
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>>569638617
Something, something, I'll be seen as the new monster girl Hitler, because it will work out in the end. Now let me steal all your food because I'm evil.
Tyrant Alice is insane.
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>>569638816
Kon kon, she stole my aburaage!
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>>569638783
Nice strawman. You must have felt really called out. Apply some lube to your anus next time you are here, you'll be less butthurt.
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I honestly feel like Alma would be disliked less if the other holy knights got better arcs. Granberia's feels like it humiliates her pretty hard for the magical girl stuff, even if she gets a cool moment against Sariela. Tamamo got her arc entirely cut and her character role is completely obsoleted by her MW counterpart, and Erubetie may as well not exist
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>>569638935
You have to be insane to like tofu, fried or otherwise. So may as well feed the black hole tyrant!
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>>569639145
Tamamo doesn't need an arc because she already got one, during those 1000 years of wandering around as a loli. Erubetie is going to blow up everyone, does it, remembers it in the merged world, and goes looney tunes over being a mass murderer.
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>>569639291
There was clearly a setup with tamamo doing something about confronting her monster world counterpart, though. That aside what arc did she even go on by this point? MW tamamo barely feels evil. We never actually see her destroying any civilizations, her experiments dont matter and get glossed over, and what we see of her actually ruling her land she's a fair and prosperous ruler that everyone generally likes. What arc was there to even have.
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>>569639145
>Granberia
Is it ever explained how and why she came in the AW? No seriously, what is she doing there?

>Granberia's feels like it humiliates her pretty hard for the magical girl stuff
She got powercreeped so hard, and I think it's logical. Why would Serene Mind matter in this world? The Four Knights are really just doing whatever they want even harder than in the VN.

>Tamamo
We got MWTamamo for that and uh, actually no even her didn't.

>Erubetie
I forgot about her.
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>>569639007
>strawman
meanwhile
>people love to whitewash her, just don't think about it
and I'm somehow 'called out' for pointing out how this makes you sound extremely biased and that you based all of your views on her with your own personal subjective feelings instead of objective facts. You've been strawmanning her the whole time.
Show me on the luka plush where alma touched you for you to seethe so much at her existence.
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>responding to obvious ragebait
Don't bother lol
Some people just can't handle the succ
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>>569639691
The truth hurts, and you are still butthurt. And a bit obsessed.
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>>569639616
Gran got transported there along with a human town she was trading with to become slave labor after AW lost the Sabasa farms.
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>>569639616
>>>Erubetie
>I forgot about her.
She barerly has any scenes so yeah that checks out, i'm pretty sure the first time luka meets her is in undine's shrine, whereas he's met every other hk before back in part 1
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>>569640173
people talk about how alice lost all of her character from the vn to paradox but Eru got it just as hard, with coexistence being a thing eru has no real reason to exist as a character
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>>569639616
>s it ever explained how and why she came in the AW? No seriously, what is she doing there?
She tried to retire and live a civilian life in a human town, that town happens to get chosen by AW, human hero man reignites berry's will to fight/live and she kills the angels who've been slave driving the town ever since they got transported to angel world
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>>569639993
>Truth hurts
I agree, it's a shame you can't handle it.
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>>569639607
Blogs were lies, or things that were abandoned.

>her experiments dont matter and get glossed over
People compared it to Unit 731. They also theorized that originally, Worldbreaker was supposed to be her invention, explaining why Luka became suddenly a hugeass mass of machines.
But that's just theories, game theories.

I guess it make sense, AW got the Sams, and MW got Kanon's Garden, so I guess Torotoro didn't want to at least on paper, make a side better than the other.
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>>569640109
>>569640503
Thanks guys, you are kings.

>>569640173
I vaguely remember she wanted to explode the world in the cockroach tower... and that's it.
I remember the cockroaches and the magical girl item more than Erubetie!
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Do you think VN ancestors are different than their parallel world counterparts or nah?
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>>569640527
Most people I've seen said that the sams are a poor equivilant to the garden. Like yes it's bad but in a way that I just care about less because it's clones and it's very least obstensibly for a good cause. whereas Kanon is just naked brutality for its own sake I feel like the narrative need to make these worlds "equivilant" handicapped it at the end. Chaos route in most SMT games is very much so the contrarian path, it's almost never presented as "equivalent" you pick it to be an asshole just let the ancestors be assholes
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>>569640790
It could go either way. Minabi, back in the anime, which we shouldn't talk about but I'm taking one for the team, actually tried to kill Luka.
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>>569640674
Paradox Eurburtie is all in on the MW plan and is trying to shoulder the burden of killing everyone with the help of kanade genes. Honestly the most fucked up part is that paradox luka has a choice and can choose NOT to help the cockroach queen begging for his life and let eurburtie kill her, like he would EVER even consider doing that
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>>569640847
>I feel like the narrative need to make these worlds "equivilant" handicapped it at the end.
watch out anon, you'll trigger MW apologists
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>>569640527
TrTr wrote the story first, and during development of Part 3, either couldn't depict it as he wanted with the tools at his disposal, or the story itself become unsatisfying, leading to issues with rewrites while development of the game itself was ongoing.
Either scenario would lead to a messy situation, and add in the personal issues TrTr had to deal with at the same time, and it's kind of amazing Part 3 was released in a mostly completed state.
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>>569640790
you'd think tamamo would bring it up if they were appreciably different
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>>569640674
Well, she's Erubetie, she's even less important than she was in paradox because she has no motivation integral to her anymore and instead Fatty is having her groomed into becoming a nuke. Hell she dies in such a pathetic way in Ilias's route that some people don't even realize she dies and just think she leaves (and then dies later since she's not carried over like Alice is).
>>569640847
They make it clear that the clone thing is just an excuse to dehumanize them and they're all individuals with their own souls and personalities; the farm is more about how AW views humans in general, that being disposable resources to just fuel the rest of the planet because they don't actually care about them, which is what the rest of the route goes on with. I always felt like this applied to the Garden too, because it also shows how MW views humans in general; sources of entertainment with no value or meaning in their individual lives. Both did a good job at setting up the rest of their worlds as being the horrible places they are.
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>>569640847
MW had some serious lows, but had a couple highs.
AW was consistently moderately low, but never had a high.
Most of worlds' worst aspects were regulated to profiles and dialogue, never really shown.
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I wonder if there was ever a more detailed narrative plan with the kanade cells or if she was just kind of always supposed to be a generic boss
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>>569640847
And let's not forget that while Kanon made it, a lot of characters, plant or not, enjoyed it in there. Gabriella was seemingly the sole gal crazy and stupid enough to make it, with Sub Ilias maybe knowing about it.
The sams do stick out like a sore thumb, since they don't make sense: If they deteriorate fast, that mean their organs would too so the organ donors should degrade fast too, but they have magic...
Which make you think, why bother with organs and slavery then? But then you realize that Gabriella is Gabriella, and Sub Ilias is Sub Ilias.
Most Archangels are good, but most Ancestors are bad. Gabriella is the exception with how bad she is.

>Chaos route in most SMT games is very much so the contrarian path, it's almost never presented as "equivalent" you pick it to be an asshole just let the ancestors be assholes
It's funny because Law is supposed to the path where you are the polite good boy, and then you end up with a so called utopia with no free will.

>>569641061
It really make you wonder doesn't it? Was it really the fault of the missing artist? Or was Trtr truly unable to make his vision come true? There are so many things left loose or that doesn't add up.
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>>569620441
It's truly a shame that the Frontier Kickstarter didn't reach it's final stretch goal which would have given us a corrupted True Form Odin.

Still, Frontier ended up being a great proof of concept, and the ones that came after it did hit their final goals.
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>>569642316
True Odin is perfection. Maybe, dare I say, better than Illias.

It's truly a shame we didn't get Evil True Odin.
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>>569642287
>and then you end up with a so called utopia with no free will.
At least that *can* be argued to be a good thing, I certainly dont agree but you can argue it. No one ever argues that chaos routes aren't blatant shitholes, you explicitly only want to do it because you're the big tough guy asshole and you want to continue being the big tough guy asshole
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>>569642287
Sams are easy to produce slaves that can also help address some of the issues with the older chosen human population that gets a few more years with a new kidney. Sub-Ilias knew, we find research papers that detail the selective process to what kind of slave AW was looking for.
Why is it so hard to understand?
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>>569642652
>No one ever argues that chaos routes aren't blatant shitholes
Chaos routes always have the biggest potential to be good though? Usually you are the strongest after doing those so just set up non-shit rules and murder anyone that doesn't follow them
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Scolding my daughter Hiruko for snacking before lunch (the snacks are people).
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>>569642973
the epilouge crawl basically never implies this though. It's explicitly a bad place where you and your demon buddies murder rape. If you want to have a good world you go neutral
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>>569548764
>fun eden
>part eden
>eden super life
>eden wife
>eden sex
>love wife
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>>569642828
>older
The miraculous treatment isn't just given to old people though. It's given to everyone. How is it miraculous if the organ deteriorate just as fast as the sams? It can't be miraculous if the organ is useless a few years later.
It's basic logic.
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>>569643083
nah, neutral is status quo and you return being a student / wagie. being a braindead lawfag has more dignity than that
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>>569642973
>>569643083
II, III, V have good chaos ending. In fact, they barely feel like Chaos ending at all, or rather, the Strange Journey Chaos Ending.
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While they initally are advertised as a Law/Chaos equivalent, with some faction leaders and telling Luka that he would be the perfect candidate for such a world.
The AW doesn't end up as a Law world, and MW doesn't end up as a Chaos world at the end of their routes. Both are practically the same, with a counsel of wise women running the joint, using diplomacy as a means of keeping the peace.
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>>569643417
Yeah, instead the final route ends up as chaos world
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>>569643372
Havent gotten around to playing 5 but I have heard people bitching about the endings, so idk. I'm a braindead neutralfag though so I can't really say much
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>>569643417
If you squint, they do start and end as vaguely Law and Chaos. Vaguely.
AW end up with the Ark World where only a few selects could go in, while MW end up with everyone destroyed ending up fusing with their MW-route selves, and the issues that is sort of pushed aside with therapy.

Chaos Route picked the MW choice.
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>>569643693
Oh for sure, V has an ending problem that was boiling in the franchise for years.
One argument is that the Neutral ending doesn't feel neutral at all, and that the Chaos ending actually feel Neutral, but you'll see on your own, I won't spoil you.
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>>569643862
>Chaos ending actually feel Neutral, but you'll see on your own, I won't spoil you.
Remaking the world with your snek wife seems pretty chaos to me
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>>569643987
Yes, yes it is. Which is why people were left confused. How is siding why that stupid guy and his waifu neutral in any way? With how the world end as?
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>>569643683
I meant the Judge/Breaker endings.
Both worlds are pretty much the same by the end. How they save AU people is different, but they are practically run the same with a counsel of women under the leadership of a Archangel/Ancestor.
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>>569644110
I'll be honest, I only did chaos ending in that one so I can't even comment on neutral ending.
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>>569643372
Neutral feels like the only real ending in strange journey, law and chaos feel kind of forced comparatively
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>>569644295
>Both worlds are pretty much the same by the end.
Which is exactly like chaos and law. Both are world of STR at the end of the day, the only difference is who's at the top
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>>569644295
I mean, one has only a few people on it, and the other have everyone being put inside everyone. I feel like it's an important point.
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>>569644608
>and the other have everyone being put inside everyone
except there's barely any humans living in MW because most of them got killed, I don't think they can merge with a corpse
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>>569644426
If you mean the remake, then yes, just because it took the nuance of the OG and threw it out the window with you getting beat over the head by the game telling you Chaos/Law is super bad.
The OG's endings were not pretty, because the situation was not pretty. The world was doomed if some serious action wasn't taken. Law and Chaos promised you the survival of humanity by handing the species' fate to a higher power, but you become a hollowed out prayer battery, or some pre-historic barbarian as the price.
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>>569644426
>>569644871
And the world is still doomed in neutral.
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>>569644871
No I meant the OG, betraying all of your companions and commander just to mind control them into your prefered ending feels wrong. Sticking with my guys till the end no matter what comes feels better
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>>569644979
>Sticking with my guys till the end no matter what comes feels better
Which is why chaos only makes sense, every other soldier apart from you is a fucking jobber that did nothing. Demons in your party are the real bros
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>>569644804
Most humans are dead in MW?
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>>569645092
shut up demon, humanity WILL prosper
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>>569644979
That is the thing though.
The OG's message is humanity "could" survive if they learn their lesson, which they don't seem to do, and pretty confirmed in the remake. Law and Chaos are guaranteeing it, but that also gets thrown out the window in the remake.
The remake was not good when it came to fleshing out SJ's story.
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>>569645103
>Most humans are dead in MW?
That's what I got from the story. Yamatai and illias resistance base are the only real places where humans can live in peace, everywhere else they are already dead or are killed regularly
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>>569645405
The remake was only good for two things: giving Jimenez a good face on New Chaos, and putting a New Neutral that openly said that yes, Humanity is doomed, because Humanity is retarded and far too gone.
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>>569645369
>Tells a rousing speech about the undoubtable will of humanity.
>Remake tells you this moron is wrong, and his "prescience" is bullshit.
Neutralfags getting put in their places.
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>>569645842
Neutralfags are worse than Lawfags and Chaosfags combined.
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Humanity stands firm. There is nothing straighter than refusing sex with demonic monster girls as you stand hand in hand with your muscular and well toned comrades.
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demons are bad just because they are ok
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you know something i've always wondered is why did they go with that one luka talk sprite that makes his eye look gigantic. Why even pick such a dynamic pose for a default talk sprite
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>>569646831
It hide his face.
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>>569646893
In the sense of not having to make an expression sheet for him or what. They gave one to every other major character so what would the issue even be
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>>569647042
No, in the sense that it make him a better way to self insert.
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>>569647137
but his face isn't even that hidden. usually to make a self insert you hide the eyes not make the eye gigantic
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>>569647241
There's enough to know it's Luka, but enough that hide his face.
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>>569640354
Because Erubetie barely had a character to begin with, meanwhile Alice was the literal deuteragonist of the VN
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>>569645842
Its less that he's wrong and more that humanity at large is too complacent with being shitty to meaningfully change, and considering how poorly we've dealt with the impending threat of climate change irl i think its an apt ending
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>>569647705
at least alice has her funny memes to fall back on, Erubetie has nothing. Slimes in general have a weirdly low amount of lore and prescience in the setting. Like what do they even have outside of boomerang jokes and needing good water
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>>569647705
It's not like Alice is that great of a character, in the VN or RPG. Especially in the RPG where she is wanked for nothing.
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>>569647915
I feel like Alice is a pefectly fine and serviceable character for what MGQ was trying to do, even if her constantly throwing luka out to the dogs to watch him eat shit harms the relationship, it's fine because it's the lose and get raped game so it's not that serious. What really gives me pause is that anon from earlier claiming that this is the best that the genre has to offer in terms of romance, because jesus christ it's been like 15 years and nothing's been able to beat alice? Really?
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>>569647815
>humanity at large is too complacent with being shitty to meaningfully change
more like humanity is too complacent with top 1% being shitty
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>>569647816
Slimes are like venomous animals, where color can warn you of their threat. You see a blue or purple slime? Possible waifu. You see a red slime? Hope you like vore.
>>569647915
I don't remember anyone giving praise to Alice at all in Paradox until in Part 3. The Singularity World has no idea of her existence, and being some shut-in doesn't leave much when it comes to a legacy. If things played out without the world ending apocalypse, Alice would have gone down as the most low key ML in history, only being beaten by Alice 13th.
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>>569648182
The problem is that if you are fully immersed, it's a bit hard to take seriously. A common mistake for me.

>What really gives me pause is that anon from earlier claiming that this is the best that the genre has to offer in terms of romance, because jesus christ it's been like 15 years and nothing's been able to beat alice? Really?
You will learn that nostalgia is one hell of a drug.
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>>569648182
Alice only really throws luka to the dogs in part 1, by part 2 he's not flailing wildly and is a competent enough adventurer that he can handle his own in a fight against a random shitter, alice isn't expecting luka to have issues beating CRAB GIRL
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>>569648398
>I don't remember anyone giving praise to Alice at all in Paradox until in Part 3.
And she still doesn't deserve that wank. Saja feel like she has the capacity of a ruler, and she magically get a new form by becoming the new Dark Goddess, and everyone is fine with it with everyone thinking she would be perfect for the job.
The only thing she did was deciding that both harpy queens were stupid, and fired them... which is dumb, because we all know it's not fucking Lucretia who's responsible. Unless she think letting herself be killed was a better idea.

>>569648538
>CRAB GIRL
I wonder what she taste like.
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>>569642460
>It's truly a shame we didn't get Evil True Odin.

Fortunately, Valkyrie is now a thing. Even if she has a somewhat different look there.

Looking forwards to whenever that game gets an international version.
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>>569648398
that's poisonous not venomous, anon. So the coloration thing shouldn't apply unless you want to eat slimes
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>>569649556
>there is a frontier 3
Frontier wasn't that good that it warrents 2 sequels desu
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>>569649556
I'm getting flashbacks about Hilde.

It seem next we'll get Lagoon international first, sadly. The absolute cockteases!

>>569649809
Valkyrie is a prequel from what I've heard.
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Lagoon is oops all dragons so dragon slayer is gonna be really important right? I wonder how they keep the enemy unit variety if everyones gonna be dragon related
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>>569650310
And then, there's the bonus units that will be added.

At least we'll finally get something about EDEN!
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>>569650581
>And then, there's the bonus units that will be added
Its gonna be another time traveler and vali's kid(s) if i had to guess if we go by gaia and hollow
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>>569650856
I was thinking about things like weddings or swimsuit. I'm gonna kill myself if we get another vidar.
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If Ilias has the power to gift every man an angel wife, the knowledge of how to do it, and the desire to do it, then every man should have an angel wife.
If She doesn't have the power, She is not Omnipotent.
If She doesn't have the knowledge, then She is not Omniscient.
If She doesn't want to, then She is not worthy of my devotion.
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>>569652523
But she make me happy, with her snark, her wit, and ability to steal things.
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>>569634087
Sequel had some pretty great romance to me,
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>wake up
>open thread
>another badwriting faggot spergout about Alma Alice MW ancestors etc
that explains why the threads are so "active"
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>>569646831
I just swap them around so the game uses the portrait that actually shows his face.
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これ、あげるわ……

https://catbox.moe/c/4qeul0
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>>569654550
This isn't Lucifina. She look too happy.
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>>569654550
You know that's not Luka because he actually made a woman cum
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>>569654694
>>569655394
Sus amogus. Amazing pages though
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>>569654550
The gallery doesn't load on my end, weird
Are you going to update your google drive collection, bob?
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>>569657324
Click on the pics.
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>>569620202
It's not cheating if it's rape.
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>>569660040
I didn't knew Luka was a rapist.
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>>569660827
Mini, Nuruko, Silver Oni, and a few others I can't remember. Luka forces himself on girls because he thinks he is entitled to sex.
So yes, he is a rapist.
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>>569661149
I can't believe it. Maybe Idea Lukas really was a true hero after after all...
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>hey vali you should do what i did and make servant goddesses contracts(rape)
>okay, time to do that to vidar
>Nooo not like that!!!1
loki, bro... you only have yourself to blame
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>>569661296
Idea Lukas' core is a rapist though, even with his recent gender transitioning. All Laws are rapists because the very foundation of the universe is rape.
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>>569661886
But, he has no rape scene! That make him the purest hero, and the purest boy.
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I rape, therefore I am.
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>>569661886
Did I miss something?
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>>569662064
>boy
Anon.
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>>569662491
He's a boy now. Respect his gender!
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>>569661149
Its not rape because they want it and where tempting him
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The time is almost upon us, /mggg/. VGL26 is on and we are gonna play /zzz/ at 21:00 UTC (roughly an hour/hour and half from now, because of slight delay).

Stream: https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
/mggg/ locker room: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//mggg/
Schedule: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_26
Archive of VGL26 streams: https://implying.fun/vgl26/
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I won't be able to cheer on our Goddess. Please do it in my stead....
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>>569666465
I want to suck on her tits while having breeding sex
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>>569654550
Thank you for the translation.
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>>569665902
I'm looking forward to it, thanks anon! LETS GOOOO
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>>569657324
Nta but it is a WIP. Slowly been organizing all my commissions and images into more controlled chaos and when that is done I'll upload the folders onto a separate google drive.
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>>569641307
I only played Ilias' route. What happened to Erubetie?
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Still thinking about that one commentator who was like
>T-they're JIGGLING
when he was watching BOOB PRESSES MAKE YOU HAPPY set up a goal that one time. HOP will slowly but surely expand across the universe.
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>>569671214
Boob presses do make me happy, but you can't impregnate boobs so I'll stay away since it makes me sad
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Are (You) ready for the game? /mggg/ is up next against /zzz/. Come and join us!

https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague

>>569665902
>>569665902
>>569665902
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>>569671184
You kill her in the demiurge as one of your only "you get full credit for your win here" moments pre-final route, with the counterpart to the Alice version of this being you killing Eden on mt. amos. Both also die in their super forms (kanade and garden respectively) and both die closer towards the end of the route as well.
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Attention /mggg/, we're up for our first divegrass match of VGL26 against /zzz/ very shortly! Let's pray our auto can deliver against the hoyogirls (3)!

You can watch here:
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
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>>569674849
But, unlike Eden who gets a sound off from her older sister, Erubetie just melts away without anyone shedding a tear.
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>>569675070
LETS GO
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>>569675070
I BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE MONSTER GIRLS
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>>569672362
>but you can't impregnate boobs
Well not with that attitude. Touch grass, clean your room, do some exercise and I'm sure harpy anon can introduce you to a nice boobie girl.
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>>569675263
>I BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE MONSTER GIRLS
So its over?
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>>569675545
The road to a monster girls heart is through her stomach. Just try to avoid the ones that take that literally.
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>>569675545
NOW LOOK WHAT YOU DID
YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
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>>569675545
Anon...
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>>569676169
Instructions unclear: fed Lona cookies and now she's grooming me
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>>569676425
>>569676495
Its not my fault that most of them are heartless monsters
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They look absolutely precious though thank you modeler bro truly 10/10
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>>569677437
Yep, nice models.
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I'm blaming this on you for jinxing us, you could've at least cheered for any one girl you happen to like
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>>569677880
Send this poster >>569677262 to Hiruko land pronto.
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It's absurd how many shots /zzz/ saved.
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>>569677437
Thanks! I spent quite a lot of time on them. Sad pes21 is shit and decided we couldn't score.
Also no idea why the stadium had blinding lights. works fine on my end.
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Sorry guys game just didn't go our way. Hope we get something better next week!
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>>569677262
Then why are you here, go someplace else
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I don't care about the cup and I'm not following it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80YFtnTBApU
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>>569678848
>>569679273
Well the two girls I liked the most still did good and didn't fumble, from what I saw and the scoring at the end most of the team seemed to play competently. It was mostly that their frontrunner and goalkeeper were just ridiculous.
Alas. Hopefully we'll get them next time.
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>>569680008
“Anyone still in possession of his own heart tomorrow morning is a party pooper” was printed in the Daily Northwestern (Northwestern University, Evanston, IL) on February 14, 1945.
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I THINK someone should manage the team. I'm willing to be your model slave forever.
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>rains on the team
>rains on the cup
>team loses
>"none of this matters to me so why should i care?"
some of you just enjoy being miserable killjoys, I swear
do us all a favor; take a gun and deliver yourself to Ilias if you care about her so much
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Fox footjobs.
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>>569672362
>but you can't impregnate boobs
Meanwhile in RJ364342
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>>569682243
Fucking kino??
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>>569680467
The phrase was making fun of people who were refusing to participate in Valentine's Day, which is when that article was printed, by pointing out how someone being overly guarded and unwilling to take chances and have fun or engage in the spirit of the holiday would just dampen the festivities and kill the mood for other people.
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>>569682197
Literal prostitute.
Literal fox prostitute.
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>>569680240
the first one was on counter and the second was on prime, but prime still did pretty good for the majority of the game.
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>>569682356
Look man, if a girl I didn't know out of nowhere gave me a gift and pretended to be my valentine I wouldn't accept that shit. I'd be too weirded out and suspicious about her motives not to mention I just can't feel anything for some literal who I haven't even exchanged a hello with or at best exchanged a hello with.
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I just realised that tamamo doesnt canonically cuck alice SHE KEKS EVERY SINGLE ALT ENDING GIRL.

SHE KEKS ALMA, GRANBERIA, THE HARPIES, THE BANDITS, ERUBETIE, CUPID AND VALKYRIE

All because Alice is fussy and cant settle for any semen that isnt Luka's to impregnate her.

Why the fuck are we making Tamamo cuck Alice when it's official that she cucks EVERYONE.;

Genuinely surprised that with people addicted to Tamamo cuckery havent commed Tamamo doing that.

They are cowards they only stick with the stale Tamamo cucks Alice when we know she does it and can do it to so much more.
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>>569684774
And cuk is autotl'd into kek damn it 4chan
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>the cum thief lore is back in the limelight
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>>569683408
That's not how Valentine's Day works.
Heck, even when I was a child that was never how Valentine's Day worked and I knew that. In general the closest to that kind of thing that happens is two people know each other for a while and then one of them confesses their love to the other on the holiday and asks them out. The encouragement for people to take a chance on love was with regards to this, because the article came out during the final year of WWII and understandably some people were trying to not be miserable on a holiday.
Your response is very telling though.

And besides that, the reason I pointed the context for the quote out was because the point I was making is
>even if you do not care for (x) going out of the way to rain on the fun others are having for (x) just makes you a faggot
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>>569684774
>I think
Yeah, I don't see this being canon since he isn't making it official. It also doesn't make sense in the context of Paradox, since we should be seeing multiple Nero and Neris from different AUs.
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>>569684774
>TRYING* to
>"trying"
I did not notice this until you posted it again, but thank you for making me realize that contrary to your statement Tamamo is trying to be the cringe-inducing cuckfaggot and does not actually succeed.

In any case stop trying to force your shit fetish onto everything. Paradox retconned it anyways because Luka has children with the other girls in the other endings, and in the true history Alice Won.
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>>569685159
heyimtryingtogetpeopletostopmakingtamamocuckalicesomakinghercuckotherpeopleisabetteridea
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>>569684774
Mostly because I think the idea of cuckquean Alice is hot and get off on that more than the NTR. The fact Tamamo is Alice's adopted mother essentially, makes it better.

Tbh I don't really like that QA thing anyway, it feels too non-canon. I see the vision of TrTr having a true timeline and wanting things to follow it as a guide but that seems a bit much. If anything Alice would just rape Luka and steal his semen outright.
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>>569685546
Alice not settling for any semen other than Luka's does feel in character as fuck tho. So either the monster lord bloodline ends or she gets it somehow.
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>>569685519
how about just having her cuck nothing.
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>>569685743
Why would you ntr your daughter?
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>>569685483
Aren't the au's from the og timeline never even shown in paradox?

Heck Alice in paradox doesnt give a shit if Luka fucks other people because she won in the og timeline.
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>>569685672
Yes, but her having Luka's kids means they have the power of Chaos, and we don't see these AU brats in Paradox. Also, B.Alice does say something along the line that Nero and Neris are the only kids of Luka, which I guess means VN Luka. So does that mean there are no AUs splitting off from the VN timeline outside the Paradox Singularity one?
>>569686091
Funny enough, we do see Tyrant Alice being summoned, and is given an universe designation, so that whole early bad end in the VN should be canon.
Or maybe, she is not from the VN bad end timeline, but one that came from Singularity World when Tartarus blew a giant hole in the multi-verse.
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>>569686192
>Ilias' time rewinding to make sure Luka gets her god powers has invariably made Alice fucking Luka the only viable timeline... makes sense tho since the other endings dont give credits.
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>>569685860
Some daughters shouldn't be allowed too close to papa
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>>569686545
They.. are both rapists anon did you read the subtitle?

Dont lose. : )
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>>569686091
You have it backwards, Alice DOES care if Luka fucks other people, and she's constantly trying to use the true history like a cudgel and brings it up more than once as one of the reasons why Luka should be hers. She essentially saw "in canon, you won" and realized she's not "in canon" and starts trying to desperately make that happen for her.
The actual quote from the marriage dialogue isn't "I don't care if you have sex with other people", it's "Even if you are raped/defiled by someone else, I will still love you and not think less of you for it". Considering how many people look down on Luka in that exact situation (and would think less of him for it), it's meant to be reassurance that she'll love him no matter what.

the MTL did not do the best job translating the line, however, and like Mikabu's name forever being made fun of this is the end result.
Doesn't help that Paradox Alice isn't as well liked as the original one either.
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>>569685860
Chaos isn't nothing, it's the fabric of existence.
And (Daughter of) Chaos isn't either she's just the test tube baby who was created to tardwrangle Azathoth until her Dad revealed he didn't have faith in her and would just pummel or kill her if she didn't do exactly what he wanted, which led to her deciding Azathoth Was Right and hijacking her Mother to start total universe death and getting reverse-assimilated by the thing she was supposed to control instead.
Bad Dad.
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Paradox Luka is for original goddesses and big titty mermaid pirates.
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>>569686192
>does that mean there are no AUs splitting off from the VN timeline outside the Paradox Singularity one?
You are correct yes, White Rabbit explains this to be the case during the reveal of the Great Disaster. The Singularity World was caused by a time paradox, and then after reality crashed all the fractured alternate timelines and AUs split off of (and are therefore linked to) the Singularity World, which is the reason MW and AW are so desperate to get control over it as it's essentially the anchor for all the other realities and most important of all the other worlds. If it goes, then everything else goes with it.
The Original World still has encounters with aspects of chaos leading to them having knowledge of it but beyond the twin's prophetic dreams, all that we have would be if you consider the MMTD collaborations to be canon.
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>>569688343
Considering how there is an AU where Luka loses to Granberia in Iliasburg, and we know this is an AU that stemmed from the Singularity World, then I guess the Tyrant Alice we see is a similar case.
I do wonder just how this world ends up, since Sonya is a now an aspect of said AUs, so she would probably lose her shit hearing some evil snake monster killed Luka.
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>>569682197
I missed this one during Part 2. I'll have to find her later.
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>>569689194
She's in the Monster Lord Castle, along with the five tailed kitsune.
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>>569684774
>SHE KEKS ALMA, GRANBERIA, THE HARPIES, THE BANDITS, ERUBETIE, CUPID AND VALKYRIE
I don't see Meia on that list. Semen-swindling foxes will gladly steal from orphans, but apparently unfaithful wives are unbeatable.
(I want to see the kids he had with her.)
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>>569690945
Somehow he also forgot the entire succubus village trapping him in that basement, but maybe it's because they probably wouldn't care since Witchy is canonically the single biggest degenerate in the entirety of the universe.
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I've denied myself for too long.
I'm turning Alipheese XI + XII into a human.
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Off to find the mythical blue-footed booby harpy
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>>569691206
>since Witchy is canonically the single biggest degenerate in the entirety of the universe
Please expand on this.
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>>569691206
the succubi would be into it.

As for meia i fucking forgot..

As for selene i got no idea
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>>569691423
I'm assuming you haven't played Paradox yet, but this is unironically a plot point that matters later on
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>>569691274
They did that already, that is how they got a peaceful death.
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>>569691581
I just remembered the lust thing.
>>569691582
I haven't gathered all of the Alices yet. They all get turned into humans at the end?
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>>569692237
Alice 11th and 12th turned themselves humans in the past, and lived out their remaining lives in a quiet hamlet. What their puppet looks like is a far cry from what their actual monster forms are.
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>>569691423
>>569691581
Is she really worse than... uh... I actually can't think of a counter example to present.
Surely some kind of Elf is worse.
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>>569691550
Luka ending up with a human at the end of the journey would be pretty fitting, but him falling for Meia would be the most entertaining outcome.
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>>569692557
I mean I'm going to take them to Promestein.
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>>569692785
Luka ending up with Sara is rather amusing, since he becomes a king of the Sabasa kingdom, and he marries a woman with an ancient monster bloodline at the same time.
Luka wins pretty hard with this ending.
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>>569692560
what is this Elf slander...
Unless there is some kinda mega weirdo in MR or AD, this is unfiltered anti-Elf propaganda
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>>569693226
Let me tell you about Misa-Misa, an elf from MW.
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>>569692560
queen elf castrates you btw.

Also i doubt they are more of a perv than chaos fucking things into nonexistence
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>>569693226
Elves deserve it
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>>569693195
King Sabassa was more tricky than a fox during that one moment.
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>>569693195
>Luka wins pretty hard with this ending
Except for the fact that luka wants to friendzone sara and sara/her dad have to resort to trickery and confusing luka to ensare him in holy matrimony
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>>569693226
Thank you for defending the good name of Elves. An Elf will be sent to reward you tonight.

>>569694059
How dare you question the Queen's judgement! An Elf will be sent to punish you tonight!
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Is there a translation for SEQUEL thirst now? been a while since I last checked, but the f95 thread is dead
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>>569697015
Sadly no, I've heard some attempts but nothing solid, the last I heard was THIRST was almost finished, but I guess that wasn't true
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>>569685090
>because the article came out during the final year of WWII
Ah, so they were trying to get the cattle to breed to replenish wartime lossess. It makes sense when you put it that way.
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>>569696482
Send me an elf too
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>>569685090
If that's how and why the generations that gave us the boomers came to be then no wonder that generation is so fucked up.
>get back from the meatgrinder
>proceed to get gaslit by your government into procreating
>big surprise when you have the worst generation
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>>569700310
>>569700879
stop browsing /pol/ retard
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>>569700310
>>569700879
>one article, from a local newspaper, written by one singular university in illinois, specifically just for that area
>written to encourage people to try to find happiness and fulfillment in their lives, or at least not to spoil the mood when others attempt to
>"this is clearly an op by the government"
You might actually be some of the single dumbest nitwits that I've ever seen. Did your parents not have a happy marriage or something anons? It wasn't even "back from the meatgrinder", this was months before the war ended prior to soldiers coming home, and it was just in one part of one state specifically trying to keep people's spirits up. And you're all acting like this was propaganda blasted across the entire U.S. or something. Forget "that generation", no wonder this generation is so retarded when people like you have no media literacy.
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>>569702198
Never forget that pic related got cucked by a tiny bee monster boy
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Would you a corpse?
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>>569702198
brutal
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>THAT BEE GIRL IS LIVING MY LIFE
>let it go, sonya
>OH, WHEN WILL THIS NIGHTMARE END
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>>569701973
>>569702198
>can't recognize metaphysical truth and start attacking the person like a toddler
Yeah, whatever.
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>>569694059
>queen elf castrates you btw.
oh, that's a little mean. I never knew this since I have a habit of overprepping every fight, since last time I died was to Papi (Paradox diff, blind), but I don't think that's as gruesome as what the library entries tell what the other monsters do.
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>>569703770
I'm not gonna hear that from people who were acting like toddlers in the first place. Don't be surprised when you get what you give.
>""metaphysical truth""
I rest my case. The only meta-physics here is how you can still see the keyboard with your head so far up your own ass.
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>his schizoshit gets btfo
>no you just don't understand
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>>569704302
COULD be the same badwriting faggot, these shitters always stick out like a sore thumb with their retarded shit.
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Quit spreading retarded conspiracy theories and join my cult.
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>>569704302
The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling.
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>>569696482
I dont want an elf to punish me i'd rather a fairy do it.
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>>569704730
So if monstergirls have a tiddy cult where is the ass cult there must be balance in the universe.
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>>569705125
I'd like to believe most of you understand that loving or happy relationships can and do in-fact exist and aren't just present in anime or games or something, but sometimes I question that. At least for our friend Johnny here, I'd have to say the answer is probably "no".
>>569704621
Pattern recognition is an ol' reliable.
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>>569705701
I'd rather a thighs group.
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>>569706310
Anon, I'm the guy who argued that the gaslighting in the newspaper is too obvious. I know such relationships do exist but considering how the thing is worded in such a way to use social pressure for people to get together or else, suggests that in that time period there was some sort of underlying issue where those "party poopers" were, if not majority a substancial percentage of the population. Looking at history and when it was posted it's easy to conclude what that reason might've been. Generally speaking people don't just write such a pointed line in a public newspaper for no reason at all.
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>>569703673
Do I hear a noise from the Pocket Castle?
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>>569647816
>>569647915
Perhaps if Erubetie (VN) had more buildup in Part 1, or stronger characterization in Part 3...
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>>569707736
I feel like the issue with Eru is that coexistence problems like hers are largely glossed over and not taken with that much seriousness, she needed more time to show off how pollution was harming slimes to really slam hone how shit things are for them but it's mostly just shrugged off and solved offscreen
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>>569706310
I'm willing to believe in honeymoon phases and old/lucky people.
Anything more...
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>>569645092
They made app and produce weapon,armor,ring,essencial demon keep asking me to suck their ball and demand me commit humilitation ritual just to become core and fusion fodder human are bro all the way
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>>569703149
I would let them rest in peace
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>>569707248
>get together or else
The specific line was a tongue-in-cheek way of saying "take a chance on love and try", to get people to not hesitate. I won't pretend I know the social climate at the time from over sixty years ago in a state I don't live in, sure. But
>people don't just write such a pointed line in a public newspaper for no reason at all
The reason is something that's much more likely to be mundane judging from the context of the article, and rooted in the author's personal beliefs and the depressing state of affairs at the time. Either trying to push someone who's hesitant to take a chance because hey, maybe you'll find fulfillment and happiness or just a nice day out, or at the very least just don't be so uptight and on-guard during the whole day that you sour someone else trying to do that.

My point is trying to paint it like some kind of nefarious government conspiracy theory is (to put it bluntly) incredibly schizophrenic.
Even using the term "gaslighting" to describe it is bizarre. Gaslighting is making people doubt their own perception of reality, and that's not what that was. This is not some scheme trying to pressure people into breeding in one specific area of Illinois. It's just an article written by some guy encouraging people to participate in a holiday even if it doesn't work out for them because it's better to at least try than just never try, or at the bare minimum just don't be a downer during it. Frankly some of the posts in the thread have proved the point it was making about having an overguarded heart.
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>>569709991
apparently.
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>>569710435
You fool, Alice can fly!
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>>569711279
She could fly before she got wings, since she flew to the continent just to punch Ilias in the face (with angel halo's hilt, so she'd actually feel it).
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>>569711526
how did alice even know about chaos magic combination
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>>569708691
The more exists, I've seen it. It's not all sunshine and rainbows obviously but it doesn't need to be. It's simply something nice is all.
>>569711690
Angel's Halo didn't have chaos magic it's just a bunch of screaming angel souls melted into a sword from Heinrich's pure absolute seething hatred for all of heaven. They had to use CDs in the towers to break the angel immunity part so everyone could start punching them properly.
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>>569711889
angel halo didn't but the holy magic of it combined with alice's dark magic is what allowed her to hit illias, hence the point of bringing it
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>>569711958
No, the angel halo itself allowed that, but the holy/dark combination probably did a lot more damage to llias' face than expected.
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>>569711958
Well, in the original story no, it was Angel's Halo specifically, not holy/dark fusion. Remember Angel's Halo is the only way Luka can actually hurt the angels, and everyone else just had their attacks go through them, because it was the only thing that could hit them. The concentration of holy energy was significantly more important in the original world.
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>>569712179
>>569712261
That's true for LUKA but you have to remember that angels are also vulnerable to dark magic, which alice could wield. If they weren't vulnerable to dark magic then they would just kind of hard stomp monsters in the gmw
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>>569709626
>Either trying to push someone who's hesitant to take a chance because hey, maybe you'll find fulfillment and happiness or just a nice day out, or at the very least just don't be so uptight and on-guard during the whole day that you sour someone else trying to do that.
This is just optimistic bias, in reality you're one wrong step away from heaven or hell. Maybe making that uptight person cultivate a resilliance mindset to failures would've been a more productive outcome than just gaslighting him and proving his own view of reality correct which only leads to him further becoming more distrustful and paranoid.
>My point is trying to paint it like some kind of nefarious government conspiracy theory is (to put it bluntly) incredibly schizophrenic.
This word has really lost all meaning, huh? To put it simply, no, it's not "schizophrenic if you know the situation at the time which we have enough evidence to say we do and the issues which had to be adressed at the post-war time.
The key distinction between it being a schizophrenic plot and a realistic argument is whether it's "plausible" and given the evidence I have to say yes.
> It's just an article written by some guy encouraging people to participate in a holiday even if it doesn't work out for them because it's better to at least try than just never try, or at the bare minimum just don't be a downer during it.
I understand where you're coming from and why you're hyperbolizing it as "schizophrenic" now however me claiming it's a deliberate action does not imply a conspiracy outright, you can also consider that the guy/gal writing that line wanted to connect to the times and get people to move on, of course, it could also be a deliberate action by a higher up with unknown motives.
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>>569709626
>>569712684
>Even using the term "gaslighting" to describe it is bizarre.
If you put yourself in the shoes of a war veteran that just survived WWII and had most of his buddies die in gruesome ways then yes, it can come across as incredibly insensitive and even as gaslighting to that person's particular subjective reality and you're dealing with multiples of people with that sort of experience around that time. Telling him to "move on" may have come from one dude or it may have been ordered to be written up by a higher up, their intentions might've been to capitalize on the spirit of the times, it might've also been the intention of someone in a position of power to just get the wagey number up and lower labor costs in the future without any consideration to what those people were dealing with.
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oh for the love of god.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rSQ77rxcH0
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>>569711526
the qna states she can grow wings out of her hips
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>>569712684
>If you put yourself in the shoes of a war veteran that just survived WWII
Did you miss the part where it's been pointed out multiple times that the article you're talking about was published BEFORE the soldiers returned home? How can you talk about how anyone who disagrees with you is "biased" or "being hyperbolical" when you're basing your personal viewpoint on a hypothetical version of events that did not actually occur? For fucks sake man.

And participating in something like this would also help you "cultivate resilience to failures", refusing to do anything and just sitting at home without even trying does the opposite. You're more resilient to failures if you go out, try, it doesn't work out and then you pick yourself up and brush it off. Didn't work out? Not everything does, that's fine. At least you gave it a shot. Giving up before you even try does the opposite, if you don't put yourself in complicated situations you'll only be more unable to handle setbacks when they actually happen.

>it's not schizophrenic if you know the situation at the time
And you've proven that you did not, in fact, know the situation at the time. Heck, you again say "issues which had to be addressed post-war" verbatim it has been re-iterated to you numerous times this was written during the war, not after it. You don't have any evidence, you're basing this all on your own thoughts and feelings, your own emotions, and then acting like anyone who disagrees with you has to be doing that.
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And the reason I'm calling you schizophrenic is because Schizophrenia is a mental illness characterized by a disruptive and disorganized thought process that alters one's cognitive function and impairs the ability to perceive reality normally. Jumbled thoughts, mixing things up, struggles with delusions, etc.
Like
>gaslighting him and proving his own view of reality correct
That's not what the sentence nor the article says, at all.
>which only leads to him further becoming more distrustful and paranoid
This is an extreme hypothetical that sounds like your own projection of what you think someone is trying to do.

Or your fumbling of dates, or you taking modern-day behaviors and actions and projecting them back onto the past years ago at a completely different time period, or you not being able to acknowledge that this article was printed in the newspaper for a singular area in one state alone and was not elsewhere.
You have an impaired ability to perceive normal reality, and then spout things like 'you just can't understand my subjective metaphysical truths' because clearly you couldn't possible be wrong, it must be the whole world that's wrong.

I can't think of anything more schizophrenic than taking some schmultzy "get a kick in the pants" style love article probably written by some sappy guy trying to cheer people up in a centralized part of his country and then saying shit like it's gaslighting people into breeding for the government for wagie shuffles, holy shit, either your brain has been rotted on /pol/ or you require actual medication. In either case, please leave and stop spouting nonsensical conspiracy theories if you can't even get the damn timeframe of them right.
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>>569715201
>the article you're talking about was published BEFORE the soldiers returned home
Somehow I have.
>you're basing your personal viewpoint on a hypothetical version of events that did not actually occur
A hypothetical it may be but it's a plausible scenario and therefore not schizophrenic, I just hate how this word has been thrown around so much that it's lost its original meaning.
>And participating in something like this would also help you "cultivate resilience to failures", refusing to do anything and just sitting at home without even trying does the opposite.
This is just a false equivalence, it's like beating some already deeply paranoid person for no reason so he can get used to getting beat up. It doesn't solve the underlying issue which caused the situation to begin with. There is some merit in the negative reinforcement cycle this situation puts the subject in but that simply wasn't the point of the argument.
> you're basing this all on your own thoughts and feelings, your own emotions, and then acting like anyone who disagrees with you has to be doing that.
I am i8n fact not doing this, it was a hypothetical plot that popped up in my head and I just had fun exploring it. That is all.

I concede, you're correct.
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>>569715796
Nah, chill out, it was a misunderstanding on my own part and my love of hypotheticals that spawned this argument. I did read your second post as well though but there is nothing I can reply with without repeating myself. You're right, I've been rejected so many times I must've subconsciously projected this into my hypothetical simulation.
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Now I'm destroying myself over questioning my own sanity, thanks anons, you've been helpful.
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>>569715870
>>569716175
I'm just going to say for the
>it's like beating some already deeply paranoid person for no reason so he can get used to getting beat up
part that putting yourself in tough spots does actually help you get better at handling things, like the whole 'you go out to talk to people to get better at going out to talk to people' deal. It does actually work.

But I'll take it; thank you for understanding anon.
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I still have no idea what that melty has to do with monster girls
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>Kudagitsune has a random chance to fully heal your party
>but that also removes all your buffs for no reason
What the fuck. This little freak sucks!
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>>569711279
She didn't deserve this form.
By the way what the fuck is happening
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>>569717460
It's about love.
Including love with monster girls.

Also I don't know how we got here either, I just made a party pooper joke in response to the guy who said he didn't care about the cup or divegrass team and someone just dropped an article that happened to share the same phrase for some reason and it somehow led here.
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>>569717460
he ate out a toxic matango
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>>569649809
VNDB doesn't say this for some reason, but Ragnarok is pretty much confirmed to be a prequel to the original VenusBlood. (Bad Law ending ends with the Holy Tree being the only livable place on the continent, with a city named after one of the Ragnarok heroines. The OG VB takes place in exactly the same setting, and one of the main villains there is Jorm.) and VB Empire (the Chaos route ending has an epilogue showing Norm sheltering some orphan girl with the potential to become a goddess, and that girl is named after one of the goddesses in Empire)
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>>569716175
That picture is menacing. Couldn't do it.
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>>569720505
Vali is really unlucky. Every other MCs so far in Chaos get to be a turbo chad, but Vali? Nope. And somehow he and Vidar will job to depowered Norn of all people. Leaving Norn alive was already a beta move, but losing? That's just sad.

>prequel to the original VenusBlood
>The OG VB takes place in exactly the same setting, and one of the main villains there is Jorm
I didn't knew that. I didn't knew there was a Bad Law ending either.
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>>569709991
>tfw you fail to gaslight enough humans into breeding (with humans) for your praygie shuffles
How would Ilias have written that article?
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>>569721637
>praygie
thank you for sending my sides tonight.
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>>569721176
>I didn't knew there was a Bad Law ending either
It depends on this choice. If you choose to kill, the game ends right after her fight without the Nidhogg stage
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>POV: you have ridiculed love in front of the harpy village and are now being dragged to the ocean as a warning for the others
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>>569723121
I don't remember that.
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Should've taken the bird wife out while they had the chance
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>>569685860
>i cant wait to be a useless piece of shit all day and eat all these snacks
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>>569723378
Anon, those are birds, not harpy...
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>>569724148
It's a bit funny how Chaos is still not as good as her dad in term of meta
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>>569724285
If I or someone else could manage to redraw that photograph but with all of the gulls replaced with actual harpies it would be artistic perfection. There's no greater image out there that captures the sheer level of pure undiluted angry bird-ness that is possible with birds in nature.
I love harpies.
>>569724148
I still think it's hilarious that when it comes down to it, this isn't even an exaggeration, this really is the one and only thing she actually wanted. Her tantrum spiral is ultimately because she had no say in her life and all she truly wanted was to be a little kid because that's literally what she is.
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>>569724148
Like daughter, like mother eh?
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>>569725819
Alice isn't her mom, Hild is better.
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>>569726584
I was talking about Sub Ilias.
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>>569726765
to be fair Sub-Ilias isn't her daughter, she just kinda came into existence from the original will of chaos that Chaos was created to control (so Luka averts becoming his own grandfather).

However
>sub-ilias is now a fatty spending all day eating snacks
>alice 1 is now a fatty spending all day eating snacks
>alice 16 is in danger of becoming a fatty because she wants to spend all day eating snacks
>chaos all along just wanted to be able to spend all day eating snacks
is the fabric of reality made up of lays or something why do all of the goddesses keep trying to turn into lazy bums who eat junk food.
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>>569727042
Alice I always was a lazy fat bitch that deserve to get killed and cooked alive.

>so Luka averts becoming his own grandfather
Obviously, since he is his own great grandfather. He only become his own grandfather if he marry Ilias!
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>>569727042
why wouldn't you want to spend all day eating snacks
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My tummy hurts
Monster girls for this feel?
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>>569727623
Bee Girls have Chef levels, they'll cook you good food (and feed you aphrodisiac honey)
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>>569727623
A slime girl could get right up in there to fix whatever is going on
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>>569727623
Hiruko could eat you and plug you in her tummy
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Were any of Hiruko's victims saved?
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Wow the difficulty spiked like hell at 6-2... The sphinx one shots everyone and takes no damage
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You could not be raped twice by the same pussy.
The universe is in a constant state of flux; both the pussy and the penis inserting into it are constantly changing.
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>>569734704
Dionysus...
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You guys aren't talking enough let's remedy that.
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If there's books for being alive and dead are there books for being raped and not raped
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>>569732141
Have you tried reading?
I did the same thing to be honest.
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>>569738394
le game... has mechanics?
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>>569738659
90% of the time you can bruteforce it, the rest of the time you are forced to have fun.
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>>569738961
Franci allowed me to not read until now...
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>>569739139
I have no idea what game this is, but I like what I'm seeing.
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>>569739139
wtf the game is in english
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>>569739230
Not everything. I was able to set up the auto translator thanks to Okyuuanon.
>>569739195
モンスター娘TD
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>>569739341
For the story you want Lunatranslator, purely so the translation doesn't get cut off.
Its a shit deal as it means it can't be edited the same way as the UI has been.
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>>569547470
>https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)
Sadly, the link doesn't work. I don't think there's a lot of new stuff anyways right?
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>>569740418
everytime
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>>569740753
Okay I fullproof defense your honor. I'm a retard, and my eyes are getting bad.
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>>569740815
don't worry anon, that got me too
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>>569740418
I believe the last update put a proper hentai scene and wedding rings for the Remina whores.
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>>569737841
Ok but mgq would kinda just be generico rpg with good story that takes long time to beat 69420 without the sex
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>>569741357
>that takes long time to beat
I take pride in my hundreds of hours playing it!
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>>569741278
Constance is the meta by the way.
Sniff, I'm both proud and sad about it.
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A lot of Tiny Improvement mods were made! I'm impressed!
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>>569737841
Is this really the case for Paradox though? I didn't experience a very shoehorned NSFW material that effected the story in a dramatic way. Yeah, most of the hentai scenes are sometimes messed up, but they are almost always optional.
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>>569744864
Lilith Sisters. TrTr can write whatever amount of excuses he wants, but this hurt the characters likability. No, im not just talking about the demonic rape aids either.
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>>569744864
He's a normie. If a porn game has a good story, then it's a good story with "shoehorned" porn.
The title filter is doing its job wonderfully.
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>>569745747
It was a joke, dumbass.
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>>569746141
Where's the joke?
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>>569746469
>"something I found on a certain site that no one hate I promise"
The sarcasm in that title is thick, I didn't knew people would be dumb enough to take it seriously, let alone "He's a normie."
You guys just really like insulting people.
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>>569746469
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>>569746654
>reposting r*ddit trash
The "he" just refers to someone else, then.
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>>569744864
There's really no reason to dignify something that looks like it came from reddit or twitter with a response, especially if it's the badwriting ESL posting it.
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>>569747125
>>569747180
You guys are taking it way too seriously.
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I wish more of these games had casual adventures instead of super dangerous ones.
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>>569747476
She should have included cigars on that shirt.
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>>569745735
That is a good point, but you are gonna get insulted.
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>>569745747
>>569747180
Evergreen posts
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>>569749803
It's the only time I can think where you can argue a porn fetish interfered with whatever narrative TrTr wanted to make. I guess you can also make the argument with the collab, but that is more optional content.
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>>569750037
>but that is more optional content.
Shield class, important items. Which was great for the start of Part 3, but then become obsolete by third world, since bosses that bypass barriers.
And let's not kid ourselves, if there is content, we will all play it.
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I feel cucked. Ilias, Inuel and Puruel seemed to have had incredible and fun adventures. Apiro Lagos is so evil.
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>>569746668
Honk Honk
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>>569753707
The music is still in my head
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>>569753707
Remember: The clown monsters were made by Kagetsumugi... by kidnapping and butchering an actual circus! Until we meet again!
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>>569754197
Hargenbeck knew what she was getting into.
I would fuck that clown before she gets mutilated, and turned into a horse puppet.
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>>569753762
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>>569754445
Not all of them were willing. In fact, judging by the journal no one were willing.
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>>569754445
>before
Weak.
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>>569754676
Please do not fuck wood pussy.
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>>569753707
Is this meant to be attractive to someone?
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>>569755107
Clown and monster fuckers? Duuuh?
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>>569754197
It's kind of funny looking back at the Kage Circus, and found that it's one of the most consistent looking faction in the game.
Un_Do drew 98% of the group, with a few outliners like the Paizuri Doll being the odd monster out.
I have to say, Hargenbeck and Sante Maria are some of the cutest monsters Un_Do designed for the game.
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>>569755231
A solitary artist does a lot to give an appearance of cohesion
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>>569755904
I just wish the ancestors got updated art, you can really tell they were made a decade+ ago compared to shiki's current style
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>>569755231
It's a shame Hargenbeck only gets a blowjob, the ringmaster outfit looks incredibly sexy during the scene, and it would have been nice to letting her fuck Luka instead of feeding him to the freaky clown puppet.
Sana Maria is a super rare, fat girl.
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>>569756421
And shiki's style actually improved. And this is a someone who dislike shiki's arts who say that.
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>>569755231
Giant Serra mogs.
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>>569756723
Giant doll that treats you like a doll and puts you in her panties.... ... .. ...
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>>569757413
why are you suggesting that putting dolls in your underwear is normal behavior, anon? Something you want to share with the class?
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>>569757413
Awesome. That's what I want in life.
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>>569758087
no thats what giant serra does... she puts people in her panties or plays with them.. fucking perverted giant doll..
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>>569755904
While true, I wish Xelvy wasn't given the Archangels, his style doesn't really fit them, Gnosis aside
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>>569758503
Xelvy is down there with shiki with the style I don't like personally. It's just so... liveless.
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>>569754197
What happened to the male performers?
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>>569758612
I never got how shiki could draw solely hot women but somehow give them all that AI stare. I think it's something to do with the rendering being too flat and perfect. It's like they aren't real.
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>>569758612
Well I wouldn't call it lifeless, he has one of the most unique styles in anime esque art i've seen, and it works extremely well for intentionally grotesque esque things like the apotosis. He does often go far, far too far like with Echidna or the Roach queen but at the very least I would never call him bland. He really shouldn't have been given the Archangels though, which are largely just supposed to be conventionally attractive women and Xelvy cannot draw conventionally attractive women
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>>569758765
Me neither. It's not like it's just the eyes either, it's also the rest.

>>569758786
True true, it's more like the colors.
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>>569758765
I think his current stuff looks much better these days, as you can see from the one posted above they have pretty varied faces. Granted I think it devolves into "default smug femdom face" during sex scenes though
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>>569758732
Araki forgot. Or they got fused with the female puppets?
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>>569758732
They get dryfished and vored.
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>>569758786
I think he was given the six new Archangels because they are test tube monsters, unlike say Michaela.
Frankly, I would have still given them to FrFr, since he already drew AW Michaela. We could have seen him attempt at robo-angels and whatever the hell Raphela's alt-form is.
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>>569758765
>too perfect
Isn't what what being a succubus is about?
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>>569759861
You think Vinum would prefer taking care of Hiruko instead of Myusca? They're both pretty problematic daughters.
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>>569759441
yeah but they're not actually monstrous, they just look like women, and Xelvy sucks ass at drawing normal women. Everyone points to Raphela but I personally think Uriela looks the most shit, her entire look just *feels* sloppy, weapons aside
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>>569760057
Hiruko is way stronger than Myusca and Vinum combined. She would not be able to control the leech monster.
>>569760158
I think Samael looks pretty good for a normal woman design. Her being made under Xelvy's more cleaner, brighter style of digital art helps.
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>>569759861
I don't get why the artist keep create boring mary sue that no one can oppose or even tried to just beat them for them to just do whaever the fuck they want and their personality is just haha am evil
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>>569761151
Because that's the entire premise of succubus prison? Like it is very very up front to you that "this is a no reverse femdom game where everyone is super strong and is trying to kill you", this is intentional, it's a feature not a bug. You're not in it for deep flawed characters you just want the strong succubus woman to fucking kill you
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>>569739341
>Penguin Fishing Coalition vs the Mermaid Mafia
>Okyuu just stumbles onto the area in the middle of the fight
>"Whoa, are you guys having a party?! I wanna join too!"
>The sahagins do not have the heart to tell her that it's basically a warground because she's too soft/kind and just run with it
>She just has fun and leaves without causing any trouble
Okyuu is just so loveable bless her heart
I'm also happy I was able to help you too, glad you're enjoying the game anon!
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>>569761151
He only made the design, the story and gameplay was done by the SP dev who commissioned Shiki for artwork.
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>>569761151
>>569761318
May as well have asked something idiotic like "I don't get why the artist keeps creating faceless bald men that no one can oppose blah blah blah"
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>>569762095
I don't like shikis as much as anyone else does but calling them mary sues is baffling to me because shikis are not characters, they dont exist within an actual narrative with like, stakes and a plot and stuff. They're simply vehicles for the fetish of "strong woman kills me"
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>>569761974
I really want to get her. Right now my roster looks like this after 150 pulls in the start dash banner.
But yeah, I'm having a blast!
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>>569762329
>They're simply vehicles for the fetish of "strong woman kills me"
and what a fetish that is. Shikis extreme desire for the sweet release of death is broadcasted to the world.
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>>569760158
The issue with Xelvy are the proportions, his early art just has way too much hip for any human looking character. He gets better at human proportions in part 3, but he never really figures out how to do character design, so he relies on random metal bits.
With Shiki I think the issue is that the shading is too soft. Your brain doesn't switch to interpreting abstract at like it would with conventional 3-tone anime art. He also overuses this one stroke size, which can screw with highlights. But when I look at >>569759861 I think that's just being efficient, I would need a full 40h week for an image like this and I doubt anyone would pay the $2k required to make this work in the first world.
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>>569738659
Surprisingly yes. And they can actually be pretty fun too. It's a lot more enjoyable and in-depth than it seems at first glance, I probably wouldn't have kept playing otherwise.
But also yeah you can usually cut the knot a lot of the time. There's only a handful of content that you can't rent for, and it's what I'd considered some of the most fun stuff.
Chapter Six was also toned down a bit but the other stages in it are pretty fun too. I found a lot of the stories in the archive very fun as well.

Also, completing this chapter will unlock the Labrynth IIRC, which allows you to earn materials to make weapons for the girls who have them. If you happen to like Franci her weapon is pretty ridiculous, and honestly she might be stronger than her anniversary form once she has it her Atlach-Nacha mode is ridiculously cool though. Okyuu and Aqua's weapons have come in handy a lot and been fun to play with in Okyuu's case, in Aqua's in just makes her capable of walling things in the endgame stages.

>>569762701
That seems pretty good honestly, Rin and Suzu look nice together there.
Okyuu is very fun, but Okyuu in her Splatoon Costume is also extremely fun, and I mostly judge difficulty at this point by how much I can commit to just using the original Okyuu before she's required to grab her guns and just blast everything.
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>>569762701
Still I'm glad you're having fun! It's just kind of refreshing after Paradox to have something with much lower stakes.

I also still really love Perili (the Penguin) too. Funny furious fisherman.
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>>569764325
>the only human girl is the only one trying to save a monster girl
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>>569764325
>>569763253
Oh yeah, before I forget again, do we have any insight on new banners? How often are new girls added? I'm debating on whether to pull more or save
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>>569762329
Which is annoying, because the moment you see a shiki, you can tell yourself "Ayup, it's gonna end up like this, and they aren't gonna be punished for it." the second part being unrelated, I'm just venting.

>>569763035
If someone payed 2K for >>569759861 or even multiple pics like that, I shudder to think of the quality control.
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>>569765525
>, you can tell yourself "Ayup, it's gonna end up like this, and they aren't gonna be punished for it.
Well, yes? That is the fetish. You're perfectly fine to dislike it, *I* dislike it for similar reasons but this is just what they are. It's only annoying in stuff like the collab scenarios because then it's forced into someplace where it shouldn't be. Otherwise I just dont play succubus prison
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>>569765693
I'm not just talking about Succubus Prison.

>It's only annoying in stuff like the collab scenarios because then it's forced into someplace where it shouldn't be.
Hail brother.
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>>569764728
>while we approach ramming speed, please keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times so I can punch the magic battleship to death with my bare hands without someone falling overboard
>but what happens if I stick my hand outside the vehicle?
>AAAAAAAA I'M FALLING OVERBOARD GOSHUJIN-KUN HELP MEEEE
She was probably too distracted thinking about her next delusional daydreaming session. She drove the Bear Girl to wreck half a forest because she talks in her sleep and happened to be sleeping in a fountain one time.

>>569765509
>How often are new girls added?
Well, given the nature of what it is, roughly every two weeks. Which does mean there's gonna always been new girls on the horizon. In general I would advise you to save up until you see a girl that you really want.
I, myself, am going to be saving for the forseeable future.
Unless Splatoon Okyuu gets rerun again since summer is coming up, because I'm one away from fully awakening her and I will definitely pull just to max her out. She deserves it.
>tfw Aqua alt never-ever
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>>569743020
I repeat myself, but I'm genuinely impressed and happy. There are just so many good stuff, and some of them were made this year!
Enemy Display, Tiny Library Tweaks, No Give Up, Unopened Chests, PresentsMarker, Affection_Global, Accelerated Menu Scrolling, the library is a pain in the ass to go through, so the last one really help.
Features Char has some long pages, almost 100.

Blessings of the Goddess upon them modders!

I'm wondering if there could be a possibility to take the seeds you gave to one character, and put them on another?
Not like it's going to break the game unless you gave them on millions anyway. Seeds really are useless in Part 3.
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>>569723121
Whats this? I never got this choice. What happened in my law ending was loki and all the frontier characters warping the incoming meteor into a parallel universe the big bad lady just phased out of exsistence after we beat her
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>>569767083
That's nice to see at least. I'm glad some have managed to get the tool he used to work for them. I'm still trying to figure out how to mod part three but in my defense adding characters is hard.
>>569750350
>Shield Hero
>Obsolete
"Take Half Damage From All Auto-Hit Attacks" is never going to be obsolete and you get that skill from the tier four version of it. It was just deflectors that became completely obsolete.
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>>569720505
How is rag a prequel? Is frontier's setting one big time loop?
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>>569767896
He literally explained it, Anon.
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>>569759861
Not to worry, we found a foolproof way to lure them in
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>>569767869
>"Take Half Damage From All Auto-Hit Attacks" is never going to be obsolete and you get that skill from the tier four version of it. It was just deflectors that became completely obsolete.
Counterpoints: Part 3 essentially become a game of kill fast or get killed fast, and Paradox Difficulty. Which tbf not many would do, so you can ignore that point.
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>>569768040
Ragnarok is all about after frontier though,it has to be a loop then because rag is so heavily built on the events of frontier.
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Wait he means original venus blood as in, the first, not frontier which was the first english translated one. Oh
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>>569768351
...Anon, Ragnarok is a SEQUEL to Frontier, and then he literally explained the Bad Law end up leading to Venus Blood, and that the Evil Chaos Ending lead to Empire.

Frontier > Ragnarok > Venus Blood or Empire

>>569768561
brooooooo i just made the pooooooost whyyyyyy
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>>569768240
I used that skill with HP up buffs to survive bossfights on paradox difficulty and played through the whole game without turning it into "kill everything in one hit or be killed in one hit" as a result. So it still works.
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>>569765525
>If someone payed 2K for >>569759861
I have no idea how much Shiki gets per image, I just think he might draw not as good as he can in order to be faster/developed his style for efficiency.
Art is just bloody expensive. Rule of thumb for contract work is that 2/3 of salary cost goes to insurance/employer taxes, so 1 hour of artist time at US minimum wage is already $22. Depending on artist and image it can take a lot longer than that. So getting fast vs. getting good is probably necessary for most professional artists.
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>>569767869
>That's nice to see at least. I'm glad some have managed to get the tool he used to work for them. I'm still trying to figure out how to mod part three but in my defense adding characters is hard.
What's dangerous with making new characters, it's like trying to modify LoC. You end up making something very complicated that future updates will screw up.
This is not me being mean, this is me telling you to be careful, I really want to see what you can do.

HarpyAnon might genuinely have screwed himself by making his ring.
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>>569768652
You can add Valkyrie before Frontier. Bad End specifically where the MC's soul was transformed into a key that Loki and Vali will use in the future
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On that note, if you had your soul transformed into a dildo for monster girls would that be a bad or good end?
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>>569768771
>me who just used Singing, Dance, on the side
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>>569769829
I didn't want to spoil the twist, nor did I really knew the details.
I'm not sure if it's a lamer destiny than Vali on Ruin Route or not.
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TrTr needs to let players divorce their wife, so you can ring a girl that was added.
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>>569770697
Cool to see I'm not the only one annoyed at it, even if I'm happy with my wife.
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>>569770697
Only marry her if she's the one, not the best one available.
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>>569769829
That Key got so many names.
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>>569770697
>divorce
>leaving the girl single
>but not a virgin, therefore ruined for marriage
How could you/
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>>569770697
Canonically Luka should be able to rewrite who he gave the ring to with father of chaos fuckery, the only wife with the potential to realize what happened is Sonya.
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>>569761151
They're not evil.
>>569765525
There's no reason they would be punished. Alice even tells you why. You can't just forbid them from eating.
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>>569770196
Vali deserves it for being the most nothing protagonist. Dude is just diet leon without any of the charm or fleshing out that leon and anora had
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>>569771223
>Monsters and angels
That is why.
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>>569767869
On that note, many weapon skill types got screwed. Throwing is almost entirely useless for damage, but the Shield stuff is stupidly good.
Whip wasn't so lucky.
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>>569771564
>They're not evil.
>hiruko
>kanade
>kanon
>koron the edge
>not evil
Sure, and next you'll tell me that Alice 1 did nothing wrong.
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>>569771483
Nah, we should break the girl's heart into a million pieces, preferably in front of the entire castle. That's my fetish.
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>>569770697
Delete this post.
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>>569769302
In all fairness, I know that, and what I've done so far is on 2.41 anyways. It's more just testing things out and seeing what I can do so far, because I'm not very good at coding. I'm more talking about all the spaghetti that goes into it, like call out lines for skills and gift interactions or things like that, or even the trait screen.
I'm still trying, but, well yeah it's probably something I'll have to wait for until trtr releases the definitely-final-update-for-real-this-time edition. Okyuu has her trait conceptually finished at least, but I still have to learn how to code better and haven't managed to implement it to test it yet, so currently her trait is just a copy of Kraken's since I'm not sure if some of the mechanics I noticed in Part Three work in Part Two and honestly pic related is pretty much the most I've gotten in terms of "mod x in game" so far.
I still have no idea what to do for Aqua. Ironically everyone else seems easier to think of, even Perili who has literally zero trait of her own and her trait is just "turns into a super penguin" since at least transformations are an actual game mechanic and she has an alt I can lift from.

Also to clarify I didn't make an entirely new accessory from scratch; at the time I decided that if Lucifina wouldn't allow me to give the eternal vow ring to Reina then My Wife would just beat her up in a 1v1 and earn the right to take her ring. So Reina went back to 2.41, punched Lucifina in the face on floor 500 (she ended up defeating several other superbosses before she finally appeared), and then I just went back and edited Lucifina's ring so Reina could use it instead. Which was as simple as editing the 'equippable only by x' tab to include her character id so even someone like me could do it.
I changed the name at one point but then when I ported it over from 3.04 to 3.05 the name changed back and I just kept it since Reina could still use it and that's the part that mattered the most.
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>>569772037
Is that like NTR?
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>>569771483
Canonically, Trtr should just ignore canon and give us another chance to rectify it all without making it canon, instead of going Undertale/Shrift over it.
Because I'm telling you this, if he does, this will be a disaster.
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>>569772037
Sonya alone having her love ripped away from her in a way only she knows is kind of funny in its own way.
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>>569771576
And Vidar was died Anora, it's fitting, but it doesn't stop the fact that man, what a let down.
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>>569771975
>hiruko
>kanade
>evil
What are you smoking?
>kanon
>koron
In dire need of real education, and perhaps evil.
>alice I
She made some blunders, but her decision to restrain herself prevented many more.
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>>569772656
Oh oh retard alert.
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>>569772162
This sound nightmarish, I had to reread the post multiple time.

>spoiler
Poor Luka, not getting a gift...
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>>569772875
You're the one triggering it. The one strike against Hiruko is her room of eternal suffering.
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>>569772656
Bro they kill a LOT of people...
>hiruko can't help it
Yeah well maybe she just doesn't deserve to live, she's the fucking THING
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>>569773216
We kill a lot of animals.
Killing humans is only evil if the one doing it is human.
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Why do we keep bringing morality into this? Yeah, my wife kills a lot, why are you bringing it up as if I didn't know it? I don't care because she's my wife.
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>>569773216
Alice really was smart in making Hiruko out of a fucking dimensional eater!
Bro is probably shitposting.
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>>569772556
I liked Vidar more than Anora, especially her Chaos version where she becomes the only equal to Vali and had cool dialogue with Loki at the end. Anora kinda becomes mostly irrelevant after the middle of the game. Sylvia steals the show in the Law route, while Chaos is mostly about Leon and Nachtu.I never liked Leon, so both Vali and him are whatever to me.
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>>569773631
She's the walking horror needed to protect her world from invasion. She does her job well.
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>>569773972
Vidar is more like a crybaby on Chaos honestly.
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>>569773631
A risk worth taking for the eventual birth of Emily-sama.
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>>569774062
>>569774234
BASED
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>>569773972
Did you get true law in hollow? Because the end of law is very anora focused with her trying to figure the best time for her to die because she knows herlifespans almost up, and in true law leon stops her from martyring herself and she gets to live in the new peaceful world and have tea with sylvia after they curbstomb the demon lord dude.
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>>569774234
Hot take, most the deadly sins were kinda shit, both in gameplay and in story.

Setouchi kind of make every girls into fat bitches too...
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>>569774512
There's even an ending where Leon goes hippity hoppity you're now like Vanilla from Gaia. (a spirit tied to a ring)
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>>569774643
>Top Tier
Cow Demon Queen
>Low Tier
Everyone else
The Cow was already really good, so her sin didn't really so much skyrocket her power to be useable, but just added more to an amazing recruit. Give that to sin to 90% of the other Part 1/2 recruitables and it wouldn't have mattered.
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>>569773126
It's ok anon.
I'm pretty sure this is just a skill issue on my part.
If I was actually good with tech it probably wouldn't be so hard. I remember there were mods for Cecil and Ika Musume back during Part One (which I have no longer been able to find but I definitely remember they existed) and there was a guy who made a Hyperdimension Neptunia Crossover Mod for Paradox as well at some point which is how I first heard of that series, still don't really know what it is since it didn't interest me.
It's just a fun hobby thing that I'd like to try and hopefully pull off at some point, since I just really do like some of the girls (like Okyuu) that much and think it would be fun. Plus making the chibis can be fun too. I'm pretty proud of Okyuu and some of the others.

Besides, Reina has given me many gifts. What matters more to me is getting to give her something back that I feel like she more than deserves.
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>>569774643
Emily didn't get an alternate form, though. Not that she needs one, considering she's already perfect.
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>>569775540
Greed is fairly good, for farming. Wrath make anyone a monster of war, it's also what make her fight so dangerous.
The rest are meh to the extreme.

>>569775663
Her mom did, but I should have said something like a bit unrelated.
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>>569775631
I wish I could do half the stuff you could do.

>Plus making the chibis can be fun too. I'm pretty proud of Okyuu and some of the others.
Oh you made those? That's some really good work!
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>>569775945
I think sin Cassandra and Lily were pretty good ways of ending their plot lines. None of the others had any real character development with their sins.
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>>569776545
I think it was done very awkwardly. "Ahah, but I'm Envious of YOU so it make me legitimate for the sin of Envy so I can totally beat the crap out of you as equel!" How does that even work against someone who is specifically envious of everyone?

Cassandra was meh, but I guess it's something.
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>>569776107
Well, thank you anon, I really appreciate that a lot.
I wish I could do some of the stuff I see others doing (like trtr), but hopefully I can get there someday.
It also just would be kind of funny since Gespenst Island has encountered both the original world and the singularity one. And some of the interactions with the girls are pretty fun too. Even if Okyuu's main one is off-screen selling Alice and Luka food and souvenirs, a lot of the other interactions are great too.
Her showing up behind Vanilla in line at the ranch causing Vanilla to have a meltdown was also hilarious, by sheer virtue of forcing her to realize that if Okyuu is all-but-flat and buying it for her restaurant then no the milk is not magical embiggening juice that will make her rich and attractive overnight when she goes back home. And then she spirals out once Master tries to make her feel better by saying she shouldn't feel bad about being flat and I am forced to imagine Okyuu (and probably everyone else who was present) just silently standing there awkwardly a few feet away with no idea how to react to the little vampire girl melting down in front of her.
>>569774643
Honestly the only one I think was underwhelming is SDS herself, the rest of them were fine and fairly enjoyable. Cassandra and Lily's were probably the ones I liked the most.
>>569776870
Lucia was researching that particular calamity event and invokes the rite not to beat Lily as an equal, but instead to purposefully game the system by tricking SDS into taking away part of the power to give it to her so Lily will become weaker for the fight with the party as a whole, so that she can help her friend afterwards once she's calmed down and can be reasoned with again. Which has basis in how Vanilla is implied to be the intended 'true' vessel for Greed but was just so weak and young that it had to split up into four parts to be properly manifested.
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I wonder how ng+ will work after Golden Route release.
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>>569780967
Meanwhile, we got Eva. Which was funny.
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>>569775663
She doesn't have one in game, but someone commissioned him to draw her with the power-up if that's up your alley.
>>569781139
From what seems to be in the game, NG+ is done with Reaper while NG++ will be done by interacting with the book, so presumably both will still be around. Can't be certain until it's here though.
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>>569781413
Eva is a treasure already in Paradox, but she'd probably be a hit as an antagonist in any other franchise. Her story is actually pretty good, Queen or base.
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>>569785806
Eva is a better girl and succubus than most succs.
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>>569785806
to be fair queen eva is the unrepentant irredeemable antagonist version of her, and normal eva is just a funny bumbling hobo.
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>>569786081
Wanna hear something funny? "I'm sure there are succubus who are suffering."
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>>569786081
Both Evas are the same person, just with different sets of opportunities. Redeemability is irrelevant. She's a shameless, remorseless call-girl-turned-slaver, and she runs from that past at full speed without truly escaping from it.
Characters should have wants and real fears. Kagetsumugi works for the same reasons.
Tragic heroines are the best.
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>>569787664
>Tragic
????
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>>569787664
>She's a shameless, remorseless
How rare. Shameless? Remorseless? I can't remember anyone like that.
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The first time you see Eva, she is giving sloppy, back alley blowjobs in a dirty ghetto to eat semen.
And people think BFers are gross?
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>>569788621
Counterpoint, the three imps at the start of the game. And the ghetto is pretty much a fake ghetto anyways.
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>>569787664
>Kagetsumugi works
Not if we have something to say about it
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>>569788807
Stop bullying this poor girl!
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>>569789034
That Slime wants to be loved, latches on to you, and will never let you go until you marry her.
Truly a evil slime monster.
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>>569789907
Maybe the same can be said for all monsters...
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>>569788786
Rumi just lays around sleeping and eating strawberries. What's so gross about her?
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>>569787664
I never denied that Eva is Eva, my point is one of them turned into a vagrant sleezeball trying to find get-rich-quick schemes but always being too lazy to pull them off and spends most of her time trying to find food and hating potatoes, and the other turned into a backstabbing slave trader who openly and proudly sided with an entity trying to destroy the planet. The way Eva and "queen" Eva are re-recruited is pretty different.
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>>569787769
Stretch the timeline a bit and Queen Eva becomes a tragic character, yes. As in, the tragedy genre.
Eva as well, tk a lesser degree. Her fall isn't as great, but she shrugs off all of the help she gets. You could write her into a more typical example, as they did in the MW.
>>569788006
Yes, shameless and remorseless.
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>>569792638
To be fair, everyone hate potatoes.
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>>569788786
>the back alley dick she's sucking isn't quite as dirty as it could be
Is this the part where someone commissions an ugly bastard Eva doujin?
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>>569788807
Did Slime Princess deserve this?
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>>569791389
She is SLOTHFUL! Oooooooh!
More seriously, they are leeching off the people... just like Eva.
Forget that the imps are childrens and that Eva is an adult... but also forget that
Or that Succubus are all about leeching off people.
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>>569792638
Their paths diverged, but the underlying character is the same. That character is what tragedies center themselves on.
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>>569793223
>tragedy
lets not kid ourselves here her life is a comedy and ilias putting on the circus music was almost as funny as what lucifina did to her
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>>569793148
No, but
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>>569793423
>was almost as funny as what lucifina did to her
A whole new meaning to the bonk.
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>>569791389
liking strawberries
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>>569792991
No, but Luka should be able to marry her. Would be the grossest choice, only comparable to Queen Remina.
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>>569791389
She steals, kidnaps, burns haystacks, cuts trees and pees on wells
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>>569794201
That's complete nonsense.
Remi is the only one who does the peeing.
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>>569794189
Luka can marry Kagetsumugi, Alma Elma, Chrome, his insane mom..

Eva is clean, and not just by comparison.
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imps carry a vital role in village society and are an important asset for the local boys' growth and education
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>>569795535
>boys' growth
We can't let this continue!
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>>569795391
Both Eva and Remina are prostitutes.
They are low in the low tier.
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>>569795754
...What about Constance?
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>>569795754
>Remina are prostitutes.
wtf did I miss something
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>>569795904
Battlefuckers.
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>>569795812
Only for Luka.
She mentions it to you before you sexually battle her.
>>569795904
She on the other hand doesn't say anything of the sorts. She had plenty of other guys cum on those giant tits of hers.
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>>569793423
It's a comedy because MGQ is, but tragicomedic elements carry over.
>>569794189
Because she's a BFer?
I still think Meia would be both a worse choice and one more deserving for its, "Luka, what the hell have you done" factor.
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>>569796008
She say that, but is one the Four Battlefuckers, which doesn't make much sense.

>>569796085
>Meia
Lucifina would probably crack a moon harder than with Ilias.
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>>569795974
oh, I guess BF are prostitutes thinking about it
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I don't think this is normal.
Also, wasn't there supposed to be an Ability that stopped start of battle effect to activate?
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>>569796182
Yupyup. People pay to be able to cum on them.
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>>569796509
yes, also i've never seen that before lol
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>>569797207
Shieeeeet.
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>>569796509
I saw this before but that's all I remember
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>>569795391
>succ
>clean
Anon i...
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>>569796156
Would she do that before, or after Meia cheated on him?
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>>569797998
We all know that the answer is yes.
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This place groomed me in 2011 permanently changing my taste thanks to Granberia and Elma. Fuck all of you.
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>>569795391
Kagetsumugi isn't that bad an option.
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>>569798098
Skill issue. Why do you like them?
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>>569797989
>>569798181
The denial is real in you two.
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>>569798238
Intimidating lizard with a sword.

Smug teasing big titted succubus with a bitching design
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>>569798402
There's no denial here. Kagetsumugi at least doesn't have any major demerits as a wife. She'd be a better candidate than Eva.
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>>569799124
Kagetsumugi butchered people to make dolls. She genocided an organization. She is, on her own, a side of a war that caused a lot of dead people.
Her gift also kill auto kill Luka if he die... which is the least weird part to be honest.
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I'd rather marry Juska than Eva, though she's human. They could reveal she's half-spirit and she's Salamander's long lost sister.
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>>569798402
I'm just saying you shouldn't expect a succ to be pure
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/mgg/! /mgg/! guess what, guess what? my old labtop has my old save of paradox! all of my stuff from the whitel quest is still there! I'm back baby!
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>>569800101
Congrats. Saves are precious you know.
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>>569800101
Do you have the global save with the achievements?
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>>569800101
I'm glad to hear that anon!
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>>569799339
The former isn't our concern. The latter... If you're marrying Kagetsumugi, this likely doesn't bother you much.
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>>569801142
Anon I...
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>>569800238
They are!
>>569800480
I dunno
>>569800581
YES! I'm tracking through the world after saving it since I don't remember anything and man, it's a regular orgy session going on in some of these towns! Port Iiia however, these mermaids are just crazy
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>>569801563
He isn't entirely wrong.
A large chunk of Luka's comrades are evil people who committed atrocities that would put Kage to shame in the past, and would continue to do so in the present if it wasn't for the chaos crisis.
I mean, he can marry La Croix who is another Kage, only with zombies instead of puppets.
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>>569762095
>>569762329
>>569765525
I like how a few guys got mad and that literally describes most characters in doujins and such, from the aforementioned generic faceless rapist guy, to the generic virginal mindbroken rapebait.
And guess what? Luka is a naive hero archetype! You could basically just swap him for Naruto and effectively nothing would change.
So seeing people have their little tantrum about shikis is funny.
It's fine to dislike whatever, just don't be one of those clowns who tunnel visions [the thing *I* don't like] as somehow unique in badness, or worse be an out and out hypocrite about it.
We have enough of these idiotic arguments as is.
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>>569799339
Is there a table listing the marriage accessories' effects?
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>>569765693
>>569765798
>It's only annoying in stuff like the collab scenarios because then it's forced into someplace where it shouldn't be.
Reminder that the 2nd accessible scene in the original VN was Alice dryfishing Luka with her tailpussy. The sole exclusive difference is that there wasn't an optional panel where the typically offscreen self-insert male body had darkened skin.
btw she's also doing the generic smug soft femdom smile as she make Luka keep going until death
This is the 2nd accessible h-scene in the original VN (excluding I guess the possibility of losing to Lime 50x to trigger Ilias).

If you're gonna throw a fit, at least have even the smallest shred of accuracy for your premise, or you come off looking like a seething baboon.
Unrelated, it would be funny to get a red-assed monkey girl.
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>>569803364
Hey, I'm complaining about how much of a murderwhore Alice was.
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>>569803364
I dont see what Luka losing and getting raped in the lose and get raped femdom game has to do with anything. Alice isn't some immortal unkillable shikibus you get a full ass ending where you kill her, that's not applicable to what the discussion is about
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>>569803003
>he's going to determine his one-time character marriage by the fucking gameplay reward and not either his favorite, or skipping if an adequate option is not present
And I thought dried fish were soulless...
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>>569803003
I guess there is on the japanese wiki?
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>>569803595
You can't skip, Sun Tzu.
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>>569803364
I like how Paradox made this canon.
Somewhere in the multi-verse calling Alice a murderwhore is true.
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>>569803595
After my 3rd playthru I'd already gotten my three waifus so I started picking the best meta options.
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>>569803595
No, I'm asking because I don't want to go through the event multiple times to find out.
If I can just read it, I can just choose my favorite girl and leave it at that.
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>>569804034
Here it is. Just google translate.
https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/d/%bd%aa%be%cf%a1%ca%c2%e8%bb%b0%a4%ce%c6%bb%a1%cb#content_6
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>>569803838
you actually can tbf
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>>569804617
How?
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>>569803838
>>569804617
You can, in fact, skip.
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>>569804034
>No, I'm asking because I don't want to go through the event multiple times to find out.
>If I can just read it, I can just choose my favorite girl and leave it at that.
How does knowing the accessory reward correlate to choosing your favorite girl?
Please elaborate.
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>>569804779
How? Can you pick for later? Explain.
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>>569804726
>>569804983
Beats me, I did this 18 months ago.
Got handed the ring and said "Nope, feels weird with Hild and the kid here" and continued to the end.
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>>569805135
That's wonderful. "Trust me bro."
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>>569805202
More than one of us has said so.
I don't know what more you want?
I wasn't locked in a room and had to marry to leave (like that LOC gag event). I assume I just spoke to whomever ends the Final Camp and then progressed.
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>summerfags making this general worse once again with their endless retardation and shit takes
Can't wait for summer to be over.
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>>569805520
Point me toward the "mora than one of us".
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>>569804424
Thanks.
>>569804951
If I just go through once and choose, I won't know what the other accessories are. I want to know what they are because I'm curious. Without reading the wiki, I'd have to reload a bunch of times to find out.
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>>569805845
You could also open the game directly and look at the accessories.
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>>569805651
>Point me toward the "mora than one of us".
I mean >>569803595 >>569804779
Those two are me
>>569804617
And this is someone else

Given your confusion in counting to two (or even hypothetically three if I didn't chime in a reiteration), I suspect the inability to progress is a (You) problem at this point.
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>>569805974
Cool, two guys. Much more than one of us. Really useful, as useful as a pile of a shit in a public toilet.
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>>569805969
I'd imagine they don't display in the encyclopedia unless actually obtained.
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>>569806127
>t. "I can't figure out how the camp scenes I've done a dozen times work! How do I leave!!!"
lol
Don't get pissy with me because you're retarded.
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>>569806159
No no, I mean, directly opening the game, with VX Ace.
Thought strangely, some of them are in the library on my side?
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>>569806320
I didn't do them a dozen times, the hell are you talking you schizo?
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>>569804034
Best options are Erubeite, Lucifina, and Chrome. Alice 9th is worth a mention if you're running a build where you're chaining sword into spear skills. Kagetsumugi's is fun if you're running Luka with a suicide build. All the rest are decent but a bit more niche.
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>>569806547
>i havent done this game's periodic camping scenes a dozen times over the duration of at least 1 playthru
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Can you just cheat engine the items?
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>>569806719
No need to play coy, Constance is the meta option.
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>>569806829
Or just cheese them. Or give them to yourself with a chest.
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>>569806767
I'm talking about the last one, the one with the ring. Are you doing it on purpose?
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>>569806829
Sure but you can only use one of them at a time anyway so what's the point of getting a bunch?
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>>569807207
And I propsed you just... talk to whomever ends the camp scene.
>Are you doing it on purpose?
Are you?
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>>569807241
Decouple gameplay from plot.
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>>569807379
The plot is that Luka only gets 1 ring so how is he giving the ring to more than one person?
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>>569807658
Think and you might figure it out.
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>>569806719
I wasn't asking about the meta...
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>look away for a few minutes
>look back
>+20 replies
it's like the fifth time this has happened
this thread is cursed

And for clarity's sake (because I don't even know why this is being argued about) >>569804726 yes the final camp works just like every single other camp scene in the game. I just went back to the tent and ended the camp. That's just how they always work. There's a prompt if you didn't give the ring to someone iirc but you can just tell them no you don't care and carry on anyways.
The final camp will repeat until you clear the final dungeon and beat the game, at which point if you didn't give it to someone you have presumably thrown the ring in the trash like me i did this.
>>569805202
There's really no need to get like that, it's a camp scene, it ends like how all the other ones end, I mean come'on man.
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>>569808517
Summerfaggots are shitting up the place with their retardation.
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>>569805569
>>569809163
I wonder what the odds are this is the retard who couldn't figure out how camp scenes work, despite doing several already...
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>>569806328
nta but I don't think most players actually own VXAce, and that would still require you to crack the game so you can open the project file properly. I don't think it would be worth the effort to do that just to look at the accessories given the wikiru has them. You could also just read the accessories (well iirc "armor")file too, without needing to directly open it.
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>>569808510
Well, since TrTr decided that the gifts are going to effect gameplay, love is going to take a backseat to meta gaming in the long run.
Also, Tamamo and Michaela fags got the short end of the stick, since those two gifts are the worse ones of the group.
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>>569809485
>Love is going to take a backseat to meta gaming
I hate this, I hate it!!!!!
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>>569809485
It's between Kagetsumugi and Micaela for me.
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i don't know how or when but I ended up falling for Sonya, when I get that ring it's going to her, in a game of monsters and angels I've been conquered by a human woman. I am weak, I haven't felt this way since Rabi.
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>>569810053
What I meant was from the OG wedding group.
I think most of the newer ones like Prom and La Croix are worse. Constance and Alice 9th ones are heads and above better than the other newer gifts.
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>>569810057
>he doesn't know
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I will have trtr's head if I can't marry Spider Princess by the final update.
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>>569810191
Yeah, but I don't care about marrying those.
I guess there's always the Alma ship, but Paradox Luka doesn't seem interested...
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>>569807349
>>569808517
I can't exactly do that, since I finished the game. That's why I'm asking for precision, but I don't get it.
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>>569811460
The only girls P.Luka feel attached to in any kind of romantic way is Sonya and Alice.
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>>569811460
as far as paradox Luka goes just how many girls actually want to plap him because they legit like him rather than because of what he is, I'm legit curious, I doubt paradox Granberia and Eruebetie are interested in him as they don't share the same history as the VN versions, Alma's a constant tease, she'd probably enjoy toying with him sexually. I'm iffy on Iiias, she obviously lusts for him but I don't think she sese him as a partner, more like a favorite pet, Alice definitely loves him as strongly as her VN self even if they don't hve the same history, Sonya is obvious, then there's Constanze and Remina, which is weird because they're his distant cousins, I can't think of anyone else but Hild but she's kinda a flat character IMO, maybe morrigan, people say her line about being eager to violate Luka could of been a hint but, can we trust the words of a lusted out of their sanity succubus? I've played succubus in wonderland, when at max horny they'll make passes at women too even detached tentacles.
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>>569809476
Anon, my friend, my comrade in arms just download VXAce.

>>569810191
>Alice 9th ones are heads and above better than the other newer gifts
I feel like this is a hot take.
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Man, i wish disgaea didn't fucking die
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>>569809485
>Well, since TrTr decided that the gifts are going to effect gameplay, love is going to take a backseat to meta gaming in the long run.
I don't even know why he did this if the options are no only limited, but if it's for it to not matter.

>>569813460
>I doubt paradox Granberia
If the banquet is any indication, she want him.

>can we trust the words of a lusted out of their sanity succubus
The questions are, can we trust a shiki and can we trust a succ.
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>>569813989
>If the banquet is any indication, she want him.
even before that when she dies in that one path her last thought is that she finally caught up to Luka poor Dennis
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>>569814174
>she finally caught up to Luka
Nobody tell her how behind him she is, even after copying his dad's technique.
Bitch.
That's Papa. And so, mine. Not yours.
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>>569814329
It's similar to her learning giga impact, or whatever that final elemental attack was, by seeing it once in the VN.
It's like pottery, it rhymes.
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>>569814527
It was still dumb how she learned it, completely offscreen, despite only having a link to Salamander. Bah.

At least Dimensional Slash had a reason for it.
Stealing bitch, how dare she.
Return to madoka where you belong.
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>Granberia and Alma have these character arcs where at the nd of the game both grow way stronger for it
>Tamamo just stops being a sad sack
>Eurbetie goes on a killing spree then takes in the cells of the most boring of the six ancestors whose sole character trait is being a racist.

Damn man, can we fire her and give her position to Lime or that slime-angel with IIias? both of them have stronger characters speaking of them, I'm really impressed how loyal they are to IIIas and how in term they're her best friends
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>>569809163
>>569809458
You need two to tango, most times. Fags that endlessly respond to them are just as bad
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>>569815239
Scratch that, let's fire them all. Only Granberia is good for the position, she got TWO arcs.
The power of Madoka cannot be underestimated.
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>>569813640
But I have it and I'm just very bad at using it.
Outside of mapmaking, probably.
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>>569815823
That's the point. Just use the mapmaking to make a chest that miraculously have what you want.
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>>569815239
Tamamo doesn't stop being a sad sack out of nowhere.
She realized that she was wrong in not trusting her old student, and not putting faith in her. No one realized she was going to sacrifice herself, and put Alice 16th on the throne as the ruler of the world.
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>>569815961
Well like I said I'm not that anon, and also that would require me to figure out how to edit part three in the first place anyway and if I could do that I would have other priorities. If you wanted to get them in-game you could just use cheese I guess.
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>>569813448
I'm going to forget I read that.
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>>569816000
yeah but that wasn't a super satisfying arc, and largely felt like she did and achieved nothing throughout paradox
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>>569816367
It's also a bold lie.
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>>569816332
Anon, you literally just need to right click on a map, choose auto-event, chest, and voila.
Or use cheese.
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>>569816367
It's the truth though.
Breaker route was him getting really close to Alice in a emotional way, like in the VN. While the Judge route had him realize how much Sonya meant to him, not being able to ignore the mishap at the end of Ilias' route part 2.
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>>569816856
>Breaker route was him getting really close to Alice in a emotional way
Pffft. Good one.
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>>569816856
>Alice
Did we play the same game?
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>Fags that endlessly respond to them are just as bad
Well yeah 2 summerfags replying to each other with stupid shit for the entire thread is not that hard to understand.
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>>569816653
Anon I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
To edit a project requires you to be able to access and open the project file. It will not allow me to access and open the project file regardless of the things I do to try and allow it to be decoded and accessed. If you cannot open the project file, you simply cannot edit a map in that project, because you cannot open the project file in the editor to edit that map in the first place.
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>>569817470
Make it 3. You are here.
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>summerfaggot felt called out and went with a "no u"
Every time.
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>>569817524
That's easy. You need a Decrypter, and a random RPGVXAce Project file. Here, now you can use VX Ace to open the project.
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>>569817635
I wasn't, but it's nice of you to project.
You complain about people responding to each other, what do you do you, cute hypocrite? Being just like them.
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>>569817179
Luka opened his heart, and Alice filled it. Quite literally.
No other girl can say the same.
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I don't think this summerfag even knows what "responding" to someone even means.
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>>569817915
Ilias, Lucifina, Michaela. The Spirits.
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>>569816856
>While the Judge route had him realize how much Sonya meant to him
true
sonya is a more relevant wife material in ilias route than ilias herself
KEK
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>>569817996
I don't think you do either. Or are you telling us you aren't trying to fish out answers? You don't need to to have the pretty numbers to answer someone, or you are a newfag on top of a retard?
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>>569818271
That's not exactly a high bar.
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>>569818271
Ilias was never in the running.
Ilias always loses.
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>Running around the saved world
>Status of Luka and even pictures of him are all over the place now
>human women flat out went mental upon learning he was cute little boy
>Mermaids are masturbating in public getting too horny imagining the hero
>Ladies village has people in it wanting to go on a pilimage in hopes of running into Luka to try and rape him
>All the angels know who he is and treat him like a rock star

Hey, /mgg/, am I slow? It's been about 15 years of this franchise yet only now does it seem rather obvious that the bulk of women in this series be they human, angel, monster or ghost seem to be really into shotacon /ss/
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>>569818609
Luka can be a rock star!
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This summertard really can't stop being retarded.
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>>569818560
>Alice win by doing nothing
>Ilias lose despite doing things
It's the yin and the yang.
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>>569818508
>>569818560
it's over
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>>569818979
Torotoro always favored Alice and MW. Doesn't matter if it's dumb.
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>>569818979
>You must fulfill the true history, which is to strike down the root of all evil.
Ilias knows she will never win, it's written into the code of the universe itself.
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>>569818808
>"summer"fag
it's clearly the badwriting fag. the actual one, not just someone who happens to be like them (inb4 i'm called a schizo or something). spazzed out for the entire thread, shit on everyone else's fun, and just refuses to leave out of spite because he only cared about speedrunning through the game to live out a completionism powerfantasy and he's just pissed he can't be a murderhobo. the rabid hateboner for alice and complete disregard (and contempt) for all advice given also checks out.
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>>569817708
I have the decrypter....
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>>569819365
Does that mean, Sub Ilias could win? I'm so funny.
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>>569819541
Good, now decrypt, and get a RPGVXAce Project file.
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>>569819552
She's competing with Kanon and the King of Sabasa for the slot.
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>>569820030
You mean, Sabasa Man.
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>>569819552
She did win. She is free from all the burdens and expectations of the world. Now she can be whatever she wants, no longer tied to the title of goddess.
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>>569820123
If we add in the AW/MW counterparts, he's definitely winning this one.
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>>569820326
Sabasa Man, a hero we can believe in!
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>>569820397
He is one of the weaker heroes, but was made the leader of the Hero Association because of his great charisma. He shows that power isn't everything in MGQ.
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>>569820784
How dare you say such a thing about Sabasa Man, who is definitely not King of Sabasa.

Actually, he is shown to be surprisingly responsible and dare I say, reasonable, for a guy in pandex with a superhero kink.
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>>569819706
are you telling me that the solution is to delete the project file, make an entirely new project file, move the entire game into that new folder for the project file, and then

I knew this was one of those things where I was just overthinking it and it was probably a much simpler solution than I thought it was thank you anon I am very bad at this
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>>569821217
I wouldn't say move the entire game, you really just need a RPGVXAce Project file to put into the decrypted game, to be more more precise.

And yes, it's really silly, I was blocked on that too.
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>>569819552
Would Sub-Ilias even be willing to marry Luka?
I imagine her doing so only to mindfuck Lucifina.
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>>569821480
That makes me feel better at least so thank you very much anon I'm gonna try and see if I can just dump the cafe in this now or something
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>>569819383
Yeah I wanted to believe it's not the same retard but you know how that goes
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>>569816948
He does. I don't think the route is as bad as some make it out to be honestly. It's not as exciting as Ilias's, but that's just because Monster World is a lot more fun to explore than Angel World and has more memorable dungeons and encounters.
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>>569821578
That would be funny. Lucifina would be assmad about it.
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>>569822467
It wouldn't be funny. You can't play that sort of torment for laughs without immediately retconning it.
She'd leave the party and go nuclear.
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>>569823082
Anon, by this point there is no party.
The world is saved, Luka is now doing his best as a dad, and people are now moving on, and establishing themselves in the new world.
The angel mascot quest shows that the world moved forward after the great banquet, and the world hero tour.
If Luka decides to marry Sub-Ilias, he is going to do it in a post-crisis world, and Lucifina is going to have to live with it.
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>>569824302
>"Mom, I decided to marry Dad. Fuck you."
Geheheeheheh..
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>>569824302
nta, there is a party, Alice and Ilias went out of their way to completely fuck over railroad multiple people to stay with them so they now have no where else to go and are pretty much required to have to live in that castle.
It's the excuse for why no one in your party leaves sure but it's still made evident.
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Please wait warmly
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>>569825472
World Drown waited wetly.
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>>>569824581
>spend two parts and 2/3s of final part making you attached to the world and the places in it
>1/3 of final part completely fucks over the world
>and then fucks it over even more, irrevocably, forever, in the postgame, because trtr couldn't be assed to have any of the places actually be fixed and most of them either go completely insane or are utterly destroyed and will never be saved
>this is all acknowledged by everyone as well
>just wait until golden route bro trust the plan
I love Paradox but he completely dropped the ball right at the end and it's literally the single worst place to fuck everything over because there's literally nothing left now. I'm not replaying it unless it's just 2.41 because how could I possibly be satisfied when the world is still completely ruined and all the characters I like were screwed over by two cunts for their shitflinging AW/MW slapfight.
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>>569825578
>and all the characters I like were screwed over
A fellow Brother of the Love The Past World!
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>>569819383
Yeah, the influx of posts with broken simple present tense in the last two threads is a massive giveaway.
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>>569837047
honestly the part that's always annoyed me the most is his ungrateful prick behavior anytime someone does try to help him. although i am also fairly annoyed at him coming in during the match just to shit on the divegrass team after two guys put all the effort into it and then acting like a smarmy tool about how anyone would want to, you know, have fun and enjoy the rigged pez games.
him demanding to know how to get all of the wedding items was the bigger tell though. i remember him saying back then how he wished he'd be called "completionist/meta anon" because he just wanted to 100% the game as fast as possible and skipped over everything in order to do so, and then was surprised when he didn't understand anything in it. so it's clearly just his crippling autistic need for true 100% because how can his collection be truly complete if he doesn't have all the wedding gifts bros?



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