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>>569872328Iron harvest sucked man, it felt like shit to play, something off with their tech or engine, everything was extremely sluggish, it was just a mediocre game, trust me, a good singleplayer focus RTS game will subsist off story DLC alone, like Tempest Rising (but it has a small team so updates/dlc will be slow)
Dark Eldar dlc is coming. I can feel it
>start campaign>play 20-50 turns>get bored, abandon campaignIs it time to stop playing
>>569872290Imagine their feet on my face
Undead general
>He actually believes that they are going to make Total War 40k.How are they going to translate modern warfare to an engine designed for Napoleonic era battles at best? Just retarded cope, it's never going to be made.
why isn't it possible to trade multiple settlements in one deal? .... my ally has a tier 5 settlement I want and it will never give it up for 1 other new settlement
Today I will remind them
Eldar reveal when?
>>569873158>can't wait for their meltdown when darth vader appears on the screen
>>569873262we have Darth Vader at home...
When does the beta test start?
>>569873365later this year
You can't make me care about 40k right now, it's going to take years before it gets to a decent state and I'd rather have them focus on finishing fantasy
>>569873365December 232nd 2026
>>569873481>focus on finishing fantasyit's already finished and now deep into fanfiction territory which ruins it
Why did they pick the terrorists from biel tan to represent?They dont even have named characters
>>569873481>>569873650the map not being complete pisses me offadd ind and nippon and be done with it
so theyre going to abandon wh3 and go to a new gamewhile wh3 is still a buggy piece of shitwhat are you gonna do about it? you bitch
>>569873018it is a miracle the fucks even figured out how to let us trade settlements to begin with
>>569873481Anon fantasy has been finished since tww3 releaseWe are on fanfiction territory ever since
>>569873662That's right, it should've been Saim-Hann
>>569873481>gladiusIt was bad. I bought it for $3 on sale and still felt ripped off. Unironic mobileslop "civ at home" trash where every playable race is just a reskin of the others.
>>569873713Im pretty sure its GW barring CA from doing ind and khureshNippon is kinda of a meme like araby
>>569873719They won't abandon TWW3, they will make small DLC like Bhashiva every 6 months.
>>569873365Last night, did you not get in? Sad. So sad.
>>569872290thoughts on 40k looking like a reskin of WH?First they reskinned units for DLC now they reskin whole games
>>569873796Saim-hann also dont have named charactersMan they will have to pull characters from black library for all the xenos
>>569873662Biel-Tan have Aspect Warriors focus. Those guys are in a base roster as we can see from concept art. There wouldn't be stuff to bundle Biel-Tan with for dlc.Ulthwe are in because Guardians, Warlocks and Farseers are in as wellOther Craftworlds are a dlc bait. Especially Iyanden which even sometimes is a Subfaction in it's own right with obvious potential Wraith units for dlcYriel and Corsairs are for dlc as wellExodites will be most likely dlc for Eldar as well. Notice that Eldar faction is called Aeldari and not Asuryani in particular. Which is why it has Harlequins, Corsairs, Ynnari and soon Exodites inside itHarlequins are another dlcMymeara can be anotherAnd that still leaves more room for more dlc with other units Eldar have. Eldar are nowhere near as abandoned as exaggerated memes make you think they are. They are one of the bigger factions with plenty of content.
>>569873998Is this the retardation where you have to make new skeletons and running animations for human soldiers every 4 years? What does "Reskin" mean?
>>569873846a lot of the 40k games are rightfully dogpiled on as shit, GW is just whoring the license out for a quick buck
>>569873998no one tell this guy about total war alexander
>>569874147I thought the map was supposedly biggerbut here a 20 man stack can almost fill it from one end go the other
pleasee stay alive until I can start feeding you settlemnetsI will rebuild Bretonniaany empire faction is long dead sadly
>>569874223>Quick buck15% of their year over year profit is licencing.
>>569873998But Attila and Throne of Britannia...
>>569873998>now they reskin whole gamesYeah they did it two times for Warhammer
>>569873998Wait until you find out that all post rome 2 games until warcore are rome 2 reskins
>>569874321those are minor titles
>>569874307they looked far bigger in show and tell
>>569874312Yes..? As opposed to the 0% they get from not licensing. It costs them almost nothing to enter into an agreement for another company to use their franchise as a skin for a video game they're developing. Licensing has an insane ROI on it, that's why every company is doing it now.
>>569874147I just noticed that they are putting two units into cover rather than just one. In shogun 2 you could only put one unit into a piece of cover at once.
>>569873650>>569873774TWW3 had a terrible botched launch (most of it due to CA's terrible handling and prioritization of other projects) and it's STILL recovering from it>no Dogs of War>no Monkey King>still no Tzeentch free LL>several factions still in desperate need of a rework (Lizardmen, Bretonnia, Vampire Counts, etc...)>IE feels incredibly congested and needs an expansion>many of the promised reworks still not delivered (siege, corruption, ancillaries...)>not to mention the plethora of bugs still present in the game And this is just the bare minimum, if CA weren't so incompetent they would've already done most of this a long time ago
>>569874667Legend of total war made them pivot lords of shang yang and it delayed the entire pipepine for yearsAlso hyenas I guess
>>569874310he might die before i can save himFUCK
>>569873998Every game since Rome 2 has been a reskin, tourist. Go farm karma on reddit with these faggot takes
Maybe it's my mods screwing up, but for some reason when I attacked this settlement and took it from the Orcs is had Dwarf livery, and now that I have it and the Orcs are attacking it, its covered in Orc shit. What gives?
>>569874780Legend didnt do shit, the recent delays are all due to the WW1 game being canned internally
>>569874667Lizardmen already got reworked though
>half the previous thread is some autistic dwarf dropping a manifesto against imaginary anti-cover warfare posters
CA marketing must be raising their hands to the sky and praising god for removing legend of total war from the communityHe would have crashed and burned 40k
>>569874137This is only stuff which is playable in 10th Edition. Without stuff that will arrive later or even digging into White Dwarfs and older sources CA likes to use. Like Zoat Terror Squads, Exodite Dragon Knights or Ghost Warriors
TURN ON THE TV ANY CHANNELLEGEND JUST PIVOTED INTO THE TWIN TOWERS
>>569875089Kinda bummed honestly. I hope Volrond has an autistic spergout about 40k total war.The TW community is starting to feel like there is barely any drama at all anymore. The spergs have all moved on.
how did we go from warhammer 3 to 40000cant these british faggots countfuck you
>>569875149There is a lot they will need to take from non codexSome factions could be done in a single dlc
>>569874927Their rework is a nothingburger, mostly just a new tech tree and that's about it. I cannot think of a more boring campaign mechanic currently in the game than the geomantic web or blessed spawn units. Funny how Nurgle or WoC have a more accurate and engaging recruitment mechanic for the Lizardmen than the Lizardmen themselves
>>569875089Nah, he can save Total War from CA.
How does the Dwarfen Kingdoms feel about Bretonnia especially in comparison to Empire of Man?I know the Empire considers the word of the dwarves better than the word of Bretonnia about what they would believe is real and not when dealing with stuff like the Skaven .
>>569875310>he didn't play the best one in the series (total warhammer 21,993)
>>569875554>thinking total warhammer 21, 993 is anything but total warhammer 176,793 with some pointless bells and whitstles added
the interview showed promise but honestly making laser weapons shoot like guns is fucking retarded, CA needs to fix that shit before launchit's pretty pathetic that dawn of war had much better Dawn of War 2 had way better laser gun effects and that shit came out 15 years ago
>>569875775take it up with GW, its their decision
The vehicles are the coolest looking units in tw40k for me so far. Maybe CA should have made that ww2 game after all
>>569875775said that to GW https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cvvjq1ua/las-canon-how-the-astra-militarums-indomitable-lasgun-works/
I'm trying all gunpowder comps with Elspeth but I can never do enough damage to route or destroy them before they close the distance.I have a battle priest and witch hunter but nothing else that wants to be in melee. Do I really need to go back to recruting shielded spearmen? What do I do in the lategame? I lost to a stack of savage orcs in an underground tunnel battle with 4 cannons that had the monstrous impact upgrade. I'm mostly using ironsides, hochland long rifles and 2 grenade outriders.>inb4 tank with heroesHow many do I realistically need?
>>569875775Yeah, it's a very, very recent autism. In fact it's so recent that Darktide, Rogue Trader and Space Marine 2 don't even suffer from it
>>569875894If M3 manages to salvage the company from financial ruin, the next step will be WW1 (using a 40k fork) and it will just be called "TOTAL WAR"Then they can release a TOTAL WAR 2 for WW2.
>>569874016>Saim-hann also dont have named charactersanon...
>>569875757you're supposed to keep it under 40k you absolute DUMBASS
>>569876040>routealso why the fuck would you use cannons
>>569876040in tw2 it was really easy to just tank with heroes. but in 3 they made the AI ignore them more.
>>569876145>he didn't use a time machine to play games that won't release until 3 universes from nowhaving a blast with TES 6!!!
>>569872451tummy...
>>569875901>gw got so buckbroken by people memeing about laser pointers that they turned it into gay star wars crap
>>569875552So far as I know the Dwarfs don't have much contact with Bretonnia.
>>569876237*routI use cannons cause Elspeth's mechanic lets me upgrade them to have monstrous impact, slowing down enemies and letting me shoot them more. I also don't have tier 4 in my capital yet so that means it's either cannons, mortars, or war wagons. No rockets or volley guns yet.
>>569876821Are the armies filled with SEM?
>>569873158qrd?
>>569876781>the squeak shall inherit the ear- AAAACCCKKKKK
>>569876920it's a bot
>>569876920schizobabble from retards who thought we would be getting star wars total war (or people who wanted to die on the hill of 40k never working for TW)
>>569877061Newfag
>play sayl>kill zhatan turn 8 after he declared war on me>realize the only unit in my roster affected by his defeat trait is the hellcannon RoR that norsca getst-thanks
>>569876867single entity monsters? There are some beasts of Nurgle and a giant in Festus' army. but other than that Vlad is dead and Azhag to the east is mostly infantry.
These are all unit cards which I managed to findIt seems there is a fatigue system still. 2nd Baneblade is slower maybe because he is damaged?That icon next to health is morale I think, not rankSome cards are clearly more expanded than others, but in all it looks like you can expand them furtherNo ammo?Selected gear is clearly displayed on unit cardWhy the hell "Tank Commander" and "Nobz" and "Baneblade" are described as "In Command"? The fuck does it mean? It doesn't describe unit like Melee, Versatile or Ranged doesAlso, what I expected, you will be expected to constantly summon units like in Domination/Survival Battles. This is why battles will be bigger, with more dead, than in other Total Wars, without increasing unit size
How good will the 40k mp be?
What's the current opinion on the 40k unit icons?
>>569877558If it's mainly infantry, then use more Hellstorm Rockets (min 5). They can't attack you if you kill them already, and don't forget about the engineer hero to buff your missile units and restock their ammo. A light wizard can be good for nets, and use witch hunter only on the campaign map, never attach him to an army. If you're good enough, you can ignore frontline troops entirely.
holy shit katarin chill
>>569878010Literally no one cares about mp. I hope it will suck balls, so we don't have to suffer from the few retards that play it.
>>569878010Built for Thick Genestealer Tongue.
>>569877873It is interesting that you can see the different weapons of the vehicles and squads at the bottom of the unit card.Tank Commander has his little side turrets and the main gun.Cadian Shock Troopers have their assault rifles, their pistols, and even grenade launchers.Makes me wonder about ammunition.
40gay retards will make this general worse
>>569878010I look almost exactly like this
>>569878167What's the 40k equivalent of raroo?
>>569878141I care :)
>>569878593Genestealer Cults because of the rape, there are beastmen in 40k, but they're irrelevant.
>>569878737I know that, but do they make any funny noises like RAROO?
>>569878036Good. TW unit cards are at their best when they're a 3/4 shot of a unit's 3d model striking a pose.Everything else looks fine too. We've got icons for lasgunners, bolters, snipers, treaded vehicles, walkers and heroes. My only issue is that the sniper icon and lasgun icon are hard to distinguish at a glance.Also I have absolutely no idea what the telephone icon is supposed to mean
>>569878258they already have
>>569875089People that play 40k don't like baldies.
>>569879063unfortunately no, they just chittering
I am just thinking about how cool it is going to be to hold the line with Cadian troopers whilst a customised Leman Russ battle tank provides long range support.
>>569879231Long range support by bombarding his own men like a skaven lol.
at least fantasy is going to die and go the fuck away
>>56987936440k is fantasy
>>569879364at least modders can do what they want.
miao's actress triggers my goon urge
There is only one correct answer to this. 90% of beta imperial males chose the wrong one.
flame cannons my GOATs
Units that will be really cool in Total War: Warhammer 40,000:Grey KnightsObliteratorsBasilisksStealth Battle SuitsMonoliths
Besides being a noble and the emperor what kind of personality and what actual age is called Emperor Karl Franz? I know he's loyal to his jobs and supposedly not corrupt But what are his personality things the most I've heard is he likes the Imperial Zoo he has money for and might be married to a noble relative of his and has a child or two.
>>569879492
>>569879492Elves are always the answer
>>569879818Karl has no personality in the lore. His game appearance is the most character he has ever had.
>HERE->*BLAM*DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR!!!!!!
>30 units of overlapping lasgun infantry with plasma guns.>6 baneblades behind them.>4 rocket artillery that outranges anything you have>In the corner of the map.What do you even do in this situation?
>>569880016Orbital bombardment.
>>569879231Okay let's break this down>armour types abstracted to light/medium/heavy with corresponding unit banner shapes>Leman Russ are heavy single-entity tanks>Leman Russ Punisher implies there will be multiple variants with different weapon loadouts. Unclear if these will be separately recruited units or just customization options>doube arrow icon for movement speed>eye icon indicates vision range, which no other TW game lists. Maybe vision and spotting will be important here?>skull for kill count>cross representing HP. Leman Russ has 8000 total>another symbol whose purpose is unclear with +5. Maybe Leadership?>firepower broken down by target type>and a scrolling menu that appears to show various weapon icons. Probably listing the different weapons available to the unit?Obviously since the selected unit is a tank, there's no reason to list MA/MD but the layout of the UI doesn't actually leave any room for those stats so I wonder how it will be presented when you select a melee unit.
>>569879231the UI is so mobile game dude please address this CA
>>569880016take the capture point
>>569880016Drop artillery on them
>>569880016That's for MPbabs to figure out, the AI will never use that kind of stack effectively.
I hope that they fix the line of sight issues.
>>569880640Spaghetti code is too hard to fix, please understand
>>569880212nigger its literally built with consoles in mind what did you expect
>>569880016Play a better game
>>569880640>Imperial Guard still just use Empire skeletons so they have borked LoS>spess mehreens use Kislev/Cathay animations so they're fineCalling it now
>>569880748a separate UI for console and PC
>>569880809Small family company, chud.
>>569880809Anon I... please understand...
I mean, it's the brits and the bulgarians, surely they have enough people to make it polished at launch.
>>569880640You see in the bottom left they have the crossed swords and the shield buttons? Next to it they have that radar looking button. That is going to be a line of sight indicator. You click that and it will show you where your selected unit can see and shoot at.They won't fix anything, they will just blame you for not using that tool when you set up your ranged units.
>>569879492Ork is the only answer that makes sense>necron gf is made out of cold metal, gives you radiation burns/cancer without realizing it, will put a scarab in your brain to prevent you from saying no to her>eldar gf is probably a whore and has casual sex with the entire craft world because that's their culture, also slaaneshi demons will come looking to kill her and everything she loves>the worst thing the ork will do is break a bone after getting too into krumping you, and will still like you if you're good at something else orky like guns, metalworking, or driving
>>569879231Leman Russes should be squadrons so the real heavies like Baneblades stand outalso the 3K UI was even more dumbed down than this you niggas shut up
>IG>designated cannon fodder faction after nids>100 men>100 men>100 men>100 men>100 menCA usually shows off games at large or ultra unit size, meaning this number could be at most like 50% bigger.3K had units bigger than this. Shogun 2 had bigger units than this. Shit, fucking Rome 1 had bigger units than this.BEYOND fucking over. This game is DOA. Consoles killed it. RIP.
>>569881538orks are the horde faction not IG
>>569880138There is a spotting attribute and you gain a bonus when on cover so yeah, I think we gonna get fully stealthed units until they get in spotting range I also noticed an evasion attribute, which might be ranged defense
Is there any fix for the chink city banners going crazy on the campaign map?
I hope that they will allow you to click on the different weapons and view the kills and damage dealt by that particular weapon.Consider this: Your Space Marine squad is charging against a unit of Ork Boys.Bolter kills: 40Chainsword kills: 20Flamethrower kills: 60How cool and useful would that be?
>play campaign>get to turn 80>get bored>choose another faction>repeat
>>569881775Here's your horde bro
>>569882012That's not DA BOYZ
What will be the 40K equivalent to Hastati?
>>569881538>>569882012Is this the new faggot shitposting script?
>>569881538The size of an Imperial guard company is 80 to 160 solders.
>>569882153Yes, get on with the program
>>569882012>nobz
So im assuming we can attach leaders
>>569882030My bad dude here's your horde (300 total)>>569882153>>569882173>>569882324Shills and drones out in force, I see kekWhat radical gameplay innovation do you think we will see in exchange for the scale of the battles having devolved to Medieval 1 levels?
Tell me with a straight face that this doesn't look absolutely epic.
Sorry but post better bait next time you insufferable cuck, not even worth another (You)
>medieval 1medieval 1 had 200 men units though
>>569882648What race are the humans?
>>569882648That looks cool
>>569872290>Latest 40K newshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXW6GFxYxsQ
>>569882671>everything I don't like is baitOh Anon... sweet babby...
>>569882753cadian
>>569882714And it looked like this.If they made a Total War game that used sprites instead of character models this thread would be nothing but.>"OH NO NO NO NO IT'S OVER IT'S SO OVER LOLOLOLOLOL!"
will 40k faggots tolerate what we tolerated from TCA over the years?what if the game is shit like every other TCA game?
DoW IV is going to bury Total Warhammer 40k.
>>569882897Gross. Purple eyed freaks.
>>569882961SOVLalso 3k had 240 men units so theres no excuse desu
>>569883040Why would it? The games arent releasing anywhere close to each other
>>569875552
>Total War World War 1 is announced.>Has accurate numbers of units to the actual battles.>Scale is 1 to 1.>But all units are sprites.Would you buy it?
>>569876715Absolute retarded post
It's beyond retarded that you can't attach heroes and lords to bodyguards in Total War Warhammer 3, but you can 40K.It was much more meaningful to attach characters to units in fantasy over 40K tabletop-wise + you even had shit like command inside a unit - banner standard, musician and champion, and the new character would be vital for the leadership of a unit or other buffs and combat resolution and it was meaningful for every army and even some characters being required to even bring certain units (like you need a night goblin character for every block of night goblins or squigs you bring etc.), meanwhile in nu-40K it's just for a single buff/effect and mostly to just protect the character while it deals damage, the non-character sargeants are just cosmetic or just slightly tougher fighters for some armies. Overall WHFB had much more important command structure mechanics than modern 40K which the game was based off.
>>569877873>In Command>Ranged>Short-Ranged>Melee>VersatileWhat does "In Command" mean here ?
>>569883337I would be happy with Shogun 2 scale and graphics desu, both of which mog many later games
>>569882493300 per unit boyz is acceptable
>>569882961>If they made a Total War game that used sprites instead of character modelsThis would be kino and allow for massive battles that would take up almost no GPU compared to TWW3.
>>569883554Anon... mein fuhrer... that is the army total.
uncle furuncle is a hilarious name for a great unclean one
>>569878258This is basically a Warhammer franchise now
>>569883376nobody cares
The Sisters of Twilight is a 3-entity Legendary Lord.
>>569883376yes but CA is retarded sadly>>569883903i car
>valiant defeatwhat the fuck is this? what do they have that can threaten me, fucking plague ogres?
i am luthor harkon
>>569884003It's going to be a 6 entity when I am done with them if you know what I mean!
>>569883705impossible
>>569883376Hold on pal, we still dont know for sure if leaders will be attachableWe know there is bodyguards, but we dont know if we can join units
>>569884145nurglings will mog you to death with the power of friendship
>>5698841451 Nurgling is worth 100 ogres.
So now that 40k is doa, what's next for Total War?
>>569884396>>569884656it was over in three minutes
>>569883467Maybe a capture point?
>>569884190You're gonna fuck the eagle/dragon too?
>>569885093...yeah, that was the joke anon.
>>569885180You pussy
>>569883347Why?
>>569885251stone and steel
>>569885734Dunno I just felt like calling someone retarded desu
>>569885925based
Empire army:1 Empire Lord6 Swordsmen2 ArchersNurgle Army:2 Plaguebearers4 NurglingsWho do you think wins?
>>569886093Nurglitechads
>>569877873>Why the hell "Tank Commander" and "Nobz" and "Baneblade" are described as "In Command"?the easiest explanation is there is no "lord" equivalent in that army so the strongest unit was assigned as army leader similar to how it has always worked where the game assigns a leader aura on some normal unit in a garrison
no space battles no buy
>>569883467My guess is that they have some sort of buff aura, possibly morale based. For the Tank Commander and Nobz it's pretty self explanatory, the Baneblade is the odd one out but it might be a morale booster thanks to being a big inspiring war machine.
>>569886169Yeah, it was a trick question because I fought a battle like that about a year ago. Nurgle truly did win.
>>569886308that shit sounds like it would be even more boring than naval
no loli legendary lords no buy
>>569886308trvke desu id be happy with a battle inside a spaceshipim 100% something like that will be modded in or even added by ca like the island battles in fantasythen again who knows how the campaign will work
>>569886308Dont worry anon, im sure CA will tape together the entirety of battlefleet gothic armada I and II into the game
>>569881538You are mixing conscripts with troopers. Cadian Shock Troops are a tier above the conscript that is the basis for the meat wave meme.
>>569885925Very ungorpilled of you
>>569885251Schematics from Nan-Gau!
>>569886770ungorbros we were ROBBED of Ungrol FourhornROBBED
>>569886673eh the meat wave meme has more basis than thatdeath korps for instance (unless you include them in conscripts)
The reason they showed Guard and Orks is because they're the two designed for Total War players. The devs have been outspoken on how Space Marines and Eldar will be completely new experiences dissimilar to other Total War factions. Although it might just be marketing, because based on initial descriptions it sounds like Space Marines play a lot like Nakai, with the focus being on fighting instead of empirebuilding. The reason we haven't seen anything for Eldar is because they're the one that's truly unique.
>>569887183Its also because those two are likely the most finished ones
>>569886407play empire at war then
Make sure to temper your expectations.Hope is the first step on the path to disappointment.
>>569886770Ungors will rise up against the Gors
>>569887709but the fate of the WHOLE FRANCHISE hangs in the balance...
i'm tense that we're going to get the least engaging campaign gameplay seen in the series so far. I guess it's on-brand with the grim darkness of the far future having only war but still.
I think that Total War: Warhammer 40,000 will be even more successful than Total War: Warhammer 3 and Total War: Three Kingdoms.What do you think?
>>569888049medieval 3 will mogg them all
>>569887183>The devs have been outspoken on how Space Marines and Eldar will be completely new experiences dissimilar to other Total War factionsThey will be merc factions/hordes that take contracts or have a ship/horde building chain for their armies.Eldar will have unit caps and SM will only be monstrous infantry and vehicles.TW HAS NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.It's all marketing bullshit
>>569888138Wow, I forgot that they were even making Total War: Medieval 3.
>>569888138Cant wait for the release in 2035
>b-b-but army sizes are still 20>literally shows a 26 stack active in the gameplay
>>569890578You can have more than 20 with reinforcements in the previous games too.
>>569888049Obviously?WH was a dying IP before TWWH miraculously revived it. By comparison, 40k is a thriving IP and GW's main moneymaker. If they don't monumentally fuck it up it's an easy homerun.
>>569881389>also the 3K UI was even more dumbed down than this you niggas shut upit was ugly as fuck but displayed way more information that most of the other total war games so it was actually the exact opposite of dumbed down
>>569890578When you have reinforcements, it extends the UI to fit them all. This is probably just 20stack + garrison reinforcing.
>>569890578>>569890869Why does the UI say that your main force has a 40/40 command limit if you can only have 20 in your main force.
>>569887709Soothed... sedated.
>*clicks on spacemarinemanii*>GUTS OUT BOYS
>>569890578Ogryns summon.
>>569883376If CA weren't lazy and greedy subhumans they would retroactively add this, but they won't
>>569890578I really hope they add more contrast or brightness to the unit portraits. All of them zoomed out look like nondescript grey blobs.
>>569891104Because when you have multiple reinforcing armies you can only fit 40 units out of a potential 60?Lurk before posting
>>569891310UI (especially unit cards) is usually one of the last things they finish, which is why for WH3 we always get those meme WIP unit cards on their streams
>>569890824the unexpanded unit card looks like this and served no fucking purposethey already expect casuals to learn more about the combat in 40k just from the unit types
>>569891150>IG starts routing>DIS STINKS!!!
>>569891341You're either stupid or CA is stupid for presenting the UI that way. I'm more inclined to believe the former because being confidently stupid is about the most offputting thing there is, and you exude it
>>569891437>it does not show much information if i choose to use the wrong versionanon pls
>>569891772anon, have you seen how many doomposts there were over the last day that says they changed the entire system due to consoles or shit like armor doesn't exist anymore? I'm just saying they've been doing this shit forever
>half of 2026 over>Legend still lingers in the shadow realm
>>569890578>>569891424I think the current look of the UI is mandated by GW because it looks exactly like the data blocks in the current edition codexes. I can't be assed to find a screenshot of a pdf but the wahapedia I use for consulting datasheets during games emulates their style: https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/thousand-sons/Mutalith-Vortex-Beast
>>569891974>obsessing over a bald irrelevant retard stillFind a new hobby
>>569890717CA had more staff after Rome 2 than ever before though.
>>569890578I don't know why anyone wants over 20v20/40v40, it's a total clusterfuck once it's 40v40It goes from strategic plays to babysitting a swarm of toddlers
>>569891951>they changed the entire system due to consoles>armor doesn't exist anymoreno actually i have not seen thatthe ui does look like shit though and the game needs to be dumbed down to be playable with a shitty ass controller just like every other rts that ever tried that
someone name one youtuber for tww3 that>doesn't post 1hr+ segments of unedited footage>doesn't have an annoying voice>isn't a total idiot >actually enjoys playing the gameyou can't
>>569892359It's a weird obsession I agree
>>569892509me
>I am Prince and Emperor>HA HA HA>AOO AOO AOO
>>569892616Name?
>>569891974You know whats worse? If the fag had taken a sabbatical during 2026 he would have lost like, 2 dlc patches only and could still return in 2027Since he went nuclear instead he will never be able to recover
I hope that they will allow 1v1 battles in 40K. I need to know who Yarrick can and can't beat in a duel.
>>569892641RAA ROO RAA ROO RAA ROO
>>569892861It was likely the best thing for him to be honest, the man clearly had mental health issues and was not handling the job well. He should never return, for his own sake.
>>569892359This. One of the things I really like about old games is how many sub-20v20 battles there are. 20v20 is a mess and 40v40 is basically unmanagable without slowmo/pause and more tedious than fun. Fun peaks around 8-12 units on each side but a plethora of design decisions since Shogun 2 have basically killed that.
>>569892359I would gladly limit on 20 units and get double unit sizeNo one plays 40v40 its too much information to be fun and the engine always shits itself, creating a slideshow
>>569891579ok reddit
Shogun 2 with 41 unit armies via modding is peak Total War. It's not hard to manage at all and you regularly have 40-120 units in a battle on legendary difficulty.
>>569890578>"muh 26 units!">infantry are 100>ogryns are fucking 15WOOOOOOOOOW anon truly this is a massive revolution for Total War
>>569893180why 41general i guess
>>569893317I will just mod to have DEI numbers on day 1
>>569893180Large battles like that are fine as long as you aren't the kind of retard that makes armies out of 15 different unit types that all require differing levels of micro.
>>569893180thishave you faggots never heard of unit groups
>>569884285Honestly it will probably work like selecting a mount for lord or hero. I have seen mods adding bodyguard like this I'm sure of it.
>>569893317They should have 1000, no, 10,000 eachThat would be so fukken epiiiiiik
>>569883337yeah, you don't get to zoom in anyway
>>569893471You didn't beat the game
My most anticipated TW40k feature: the possibility that the xenos will call you a MORTALOID as an Imperial
Hopefully they will have multiplayer planetary campaigns, will be based to have guilds of the various factions trying to control the key points
>>569892509Renetaki
>>569893334I am not sure why but the game breaks if you do 42 or higher.
>>569894597Imagine the desync
I wanna cuddle a skaven
>>569890578>>569881538You will always be expected to have 40 units in battle ultimately. Not 20 like in other Total Wars. This is why basic IG squad has 100 units on Large, it's a gimmick and a trick to not melt poorfags PCs. Battles will be bigger ultimately because you will constantly summon units from reserve. Recall Empire at War, it worked like this as well.Remember, your objective is not to defeat enemy army. You have to achieve some objective. Your battle is a small "flashpoint" of a bigger battle or even entire front lines so Orks are constantly pouring in from map borders. You have to capture and garrison that Manufactorium to win a battle. Or assassinate this Warboss. This is how Survival Battles work and even newer Quest Battles.
>>569892509>someone name one youtuber for tww3 that>doesn't have an annoying voiceTheGreatBookofGrudges is out.
>>569893317>OMG WE NEED A REVOLUTION A REVOLUTION WE NEED IT>ok what is it>UNLIMITED ARMY SIZES BROOOO WE JUST NEED MASSIVE ARMIES>but massive armies dont control well>WE JUST NEED A REVOLUTIOONNNNYou retards must be subhuman
Why do so many people with annoying voices make videos? Are they not ashamed?
>>569894982>Remember, your objective is not to defeat enemy army. You have to achieve some objective.I fucking GUARANTEE that if this turns out to be true, they'll change it after backlashscreenshot this post
>>569892509Lionheart
>>569895173nigger these units sizes are literally smaller than 10+ year old gamesThe average Shogun 2 20 unit army will be bigger than the average 20 unit 40k army
>>569895364No it isnt, and you being a dishonest faggot is the reason why no one ever takes you seriously
>>569894982You do realize that would make battles unwinable? I mean just look at our sieges. They have objectives but nobody ever manages to take a single flag because the entire siege is a gate moshpit for 50minutes.If the enemy has infinite troops we just moshpit till we die.
>>569895439Even elite samurai units were 160 men on Ultra, bro. Looking at these screenshots, the average elite units is gonna be like 80 men.Sorry but your coping wont change anything.
>>569895510Survival Battles manage to work. You have to push through few layers of chaosniggers, garrisoning points along the wayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcYnYdmrZMI
>>569894982>>569894982>40 units in battle ultimatelyWith vehicles being single entity, elites being 40-50 (so maybe 80 on huge) this will come out to like 2000 models on each side at mostThe rest of your post is correct tho, I fully expect them to frame it like that.
>>569895698Yeah I know but those are also just 50minute moshpits with the difference that we moshpit 3 times in 3 locations. I mean I like em but they take forever and it's no different than fighting an army with 2 reinforcing armies.
Just remembered Farseers having that "the entire screen dies in a storm" ability in DoW
>Computers are around 10-20 times more capable then they were when Shogun 2 came out.>Games are not 10 times more technically impressive then Shogun 2.How did this happen?
>>569896082nothing personell monkeigh>>569896112laziness and diminishing returnsalso total war fans will forgive literally anything
>>569896112units you never look at anyway are more detailed so games are more demanding and melting PCsIf we stayed at graphical level of S2, we would have bigger units
>>569896112Every single triple A game company outsourced their optimisation and QA teams to Nvidia
>>569896082
>>569896082They also have it here monkeigh
>>569895596Okay and? Cav was 60 on ultra unit sizes and a lot of the army was comprised of cav for Shogun 2. If you're obsessed with having a large army just use units that are large in size.
>>569896420Only newbies, children and youtubers zoom in on battles after the fifth or sixth battle with a faction
Why is this worth arguing about? They're keeping the unit sizes down to help performance, if you're like me and have a good PC you'll just double the unit sizes with cheats, what's the issue?
>cap battles at 20>increase unit size 3xIncreasing unit size is less demanding than one extra unit so this would be fine40v40s is a meme
OGRYNS MY LORD
>>569896823>if you're like me and have a good PC you'll just double the unit sizes with cheats, what's the issue?But I want to participate in the Everyone's WarTM game mode and fight for the galaxy with thousands of strangers!
>>569896082GAPED AND RAPED
>>569896885kek
Am I the only one who doesn't want enormous unit sizes?40skaven lags so fucking bad..
Do you think that Kislevites are allowed into the Imperial Guard?
*teleports behind you*heh, nothing personel Mon-keigh
>>569896862>40v40s is a meme40v40 is better than bigger individual entities per unit because you can play with a wider range of units.There are a lot of units in TW that there is no point adding to your army because you only have 20 slots to fill.
>>569897039Spiders really are the coolest aspect warriors.
>>569896695>Okay and?So we agree then, the average 40k army will be a 500 model snoozefest. Cool!Also pls explain shillbro why is a game coming out 2026 years later less impressive and less of a spectacle than a game from 2011?
>>569897021I have a 9070xt, 14900mb/s nvme and a 9800x3d, so yeah, I fucking want to have gigantic battles or I will kill myself
>>569897182You are retarded beyond believe and I dunno what those madeup hardware names are supposed to be.
All these MUH UNIT SIZE people are from PixelatedTranny's community. They're obsessed with this stuff and all they do is cry about it day in and day out. If you actually bother to push them to the root desire of these complaints (the few times you can get coherent arguments out of them that isn't part of their rehearsed streamer mantra) they'll ultimately reveal they just want cool battles. Unit size is completely arbitrary to them which is why they shill things like Manor Lords. People like >>569897164are prime examples of these streamer cucks.
>>569897021Poorfagus Povertus Pauperus...
>>569896112Diminishing returns means even if the industry didn't get Jeet'd we'd still be dealing with games that barely look better than they did on Xbox and run a lot worse.
>>569894669>multiplayer
>>569897321Man have u never had to push an army through 40 skaven stuck in a gate? It's a nightmare even without the 20fps
>>569896439>watch out for the build up of this powerful ability, better get out of there before it reaches the final form!>unit takes a full second to even respond to the move order
Shogun 2 had burning buildings, weather and night battles.Will the 40k, the revolutionary new Total War games, have these?
>>569897164No I don't agree with you, you're cherrypicking specific units to suit the conclusion you've already arrived at. >average 40k army will be 500 modelEven in your hyperbole strawman example that wouldn't be the case.
>>569897569lost tech
>>569897140I love (almost) all the aspect warriors but spiders are definitely up there
>>569897689Why is he having lightning diarrhea mid aid?
Ranged is going to be too powerful.Most melee armies are going to be at half strength by the time they reach their enemies.
>>569897606With so many poorfags in the community and so many armies being "elite" (Space Marines, Eldar, Necrons, CSM etc etc) 500 models probably isnt too off the mark desu
>>569897569https://www.pcgamer.com/games/strategy/total-war-warhammer-40-000-will-have-destructible-terrain-elements-that-forest-if-you-dont-like-it-you-dont-have-to-keep-it/>night masaka...
>>569897932Yaawwnnn
>>569897846It's called a brapboost, you wouldn't get it
>have my spearmen/archers/crossbowmen in formation >enemy starts sending cavalry down my left flank >I expected them to be on the right>shits up my planHow can I get my units to face the enemy ---without--- shitting up my formation? Is there a way to get multiple units to pivot on the spot to face a certain direction?
>>569897569yes
>>569897893They'll just have to make ranged units even worse in melee to compensate or we're going to see ranged damage nerfed a lot so that they do damage over a longer period of time.
>>569898107You could alt click and rotate a squad.
>"Being completely clear, not absolutely everything is destructible, right?" Petry clarifies. >"We've kept it to areas where it really works and it makes sense and it feels like it can add to that depth."Read: Forests and one or two buildings and of course muh craters for cover.DEAD ON ARRIVAL
>>569897893No decent build is going to be melee only, even Greenskins and Nids have some kind of heavy weapons
>>569898139>SM bolter squad taking 50 minutes to drop a mob of orksThis is 100% going to happen given CAs track record of balancing
>>569898245AAAAA IT'S SO OVER-DONE
>>569897283Holy shit you are right. It's doomsissies actually raiding on behalf of their eceleb
>>569898494This could all have been prevented if CA had just made Star Wars Total War like everyone wanted
IT'S UP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlxRXwpte6s
There are rumours that Archaon is going to receive a new Old World model and that Warhammer 3 will be updated with this newer model.
>get chariot>tell myself im gonna micro it this time>send it to disrupt enemy lines>5 seconds later>A unit has been wiped out!every fucking time
>>569898674the king of /twg/
>>569898775There are precisely two chariots that are worth using:Grom the PaunchMother Ostankya
There are rumours that the nigger anons of /twg/ tongue my anus.
>>569898107When a squad is selected, ctrl + left or right arrow will rotate the formation in place.Though just as a general rule of thumb infantry is not going to out-rotate cavalry. If the AI's cavalry is playing grab ass it will grab the ass, the counter isn't to try and spin faster it's just to position something that can counter-initiate when your block of infantry gets flank-charged.Ideally you intercept cavalry with your own fast-movers rather than reaching a point where you can't prevent them from flanking you.
Play Boris Ursus if you want full control of the flanks. Nothing in the first 30 turns can contest 2 War Bear Riders.
too many eldarfags itt
>>569898876Wouldn't go that far
>>569898876>he forgot about the imperishable
Imagine Tyranids with those pathetic unit sizes
>>569899329Sphinx > Chariot of the Mortals
>>569899264https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wA2IsF177s
>>569899580Sphinx are for lesser tomb dynasties
>>569899512I don't need to imagine it, I have DoW2, tabletop, Gladius, BFGA2 and literally every other 40k IP to ever feature Tyranids for that
Hive Tyrant will be the most powerful commander.
>>569899512The Great Devourer, the Shadow in the Warp, numberless, without number, endless...>3000 models (ultra)
>>569899712space marine 2 did a good job
>>569897893GW surely wouldn't forget about implementing transport functionalityOf course our futuristic sci fi game won't have assault infantry awkwardly walking into fire instead of just riding on armored combat support vehiclesHahaha...
>>569899712And all of those games are dogshit
>>569899920You would need quite a few Chimeras to load up 100 Guardmen.
>>569899898That's like 2 units of hormagaunts
>>569899712> tabletopWhy do tabletoptrannyuncs bring up their antique toy soldiers? Nobody cares.
>>569900063Will still mog Cuck Assembly into oblivion.
>>569900065CA doesTotal War is now utterly subservient to this superior medium of a tabletop wargaming. It dictates everything
>>569900038I can understand personal taste for not liking DoW2 or BFGA2 but objectively you're wrong
>>569900053>You would need quite a few Chimeras to load up 100 Guardmen.You need nine. Round it up to ten. That is a unit with ten models.That is not outlandish.
Reminder:
>mfw Guardsman hop over cover instead making it explode on contactTechnology
>>569900604Weak and surpassed jobber
>>569900604You just know that this guy is going to have:Over 8000 healthHigh armourArmour-piercing weapon strengthGood melee statsUnique and powerful spellsI wish Queek and Imrik the best of luck when Lords of the End Times is released.
>>569900579It's tricky because how do you deal with lost vehicles in a multiple vehicle squad?Would they just lose the ability to transport if the infantry unit is healthier?
>>569899264
>>569900419>nowTotal War was based om Kriegspiel. It's tabletop wargaming the whole way down.
>>569900930I would just say you need 50% of the multiple vehicle squad to be alive to transport a unit. Simple rules like that are easy to remember and are good for gameplay reasons. Players won't mind.
>>569900889A challenge worthy of Caledor.
>>569899264They're just bolter fodder soon to be purged
>>569900604
>>569900604Gay ass End Times/Proto AoS shit
>>569901184>*jobs*
>>569900889He's almost certainly going to be someone who slowly powers up. I suspect him, archaon, and daniel are going to share a lot of traits.
>>569901276unc nobody gives a shit about your gay ass 4th ed nagash or whatever it was
>>569901184https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKmHZw2mfUCinema
>>569901184Imagine if Krell becomes a lord.
>>569900889Queek mogs him. Nagash will be crumbling in moments.
>>569899264/twg/ is a elf supremacy general
>>569899264>>569901126Huh...
>>569901184Ghorst won't become a LL for Fagash because he's too powerful and already SURPASSED him.
>>569901541I think it's confirmed some Mortarchs are going to be Heroes.
>>569902147leave that poor guardsman alone whores
>>569900638I hope super heavy infantry like Terminators and Meganobz crash straight through cover instead of vaulting over it.
I hope /ourmarine/ makes it in as a LH
>>569903171dudes currently the most known space marine ever so probably
>>569903171I'm sure there will be a "500 worlds campaign" that you can play where he features as one of the leaders
>>569903171>/ourmarine/https://youtu.be/AbmDLVFAaec?t=42
>>569894982this sounds completely dogshit. in tw field battles i want to fight and kill the enemy to win, that's it.
>>5699039193edgy5me
How is there a fucking Dwarf themed endgame scenario but not a Chaos one
>>569904365Don't run from it, embrace it
>>569904396Held back to go with ET dlc chud
>>569903245I would bet my left nutsack that 500 Worlds would be a Crusade Theatre they release later on, yeah. They did mention that Armageddon would only be the beginning so making more "hand crafted" systems and theatres in the future makes a lot of sense.
>>569899920Funny thing is Eldar have the most potential with their melee plus vehicles>Falcons are hover IFVS with Shield and Anti-Everything weapons>They have shieldsYou would literally just load up Banshees or Fire Dragons and send them right into an infantry/armored blob and let them rip, potentially get out of there too.
>>569876040Have you tried the amethyst hellstorm rocket batteries? With almost 700 range, they're pretty nifty
Imagine a game where every faction has hybrid melee-ranged infantry.Imagine a game where every faction is just different forms of Streltsi.Imagine a game where every faction is Kislev.
>>569901469Nagash has had two designs, goofy and shitty, we're getting the shitty one
>>569901184CHADtra... my FUARKING king....
>>569905384Kislev.
There is another stat called evasion, which is the closest thing to shields (but there are shields in the setting aswell) so I think that there will be an additional defensive layer in the game to protect against the presence of ranged fireNo idea about orks though, in theory they should be tough, but toughness was rolled into melee defense and armour in tww, I have no idea what they will do here
Nagash has two designs:Design 1: 5'11''Design 2: 6'0''
>>569905683The AOS one looks like shit. Bring back lil'Naggy
I hope they add rats to 40k
>>569905384Hybrids are not realKossars are just archersSteltsi are just handgunnersArmored Kossars are just melee troops
>>569905441https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYfais8BLdg
>>569905683
>>569885251Very based>>569905384Probably they would miss a lot same as a melee troops now with a melee attacks
>>569905204>Fire Dragons
*Attack you with a Druzhina + 19 Ice Guard*
>>569905949That's the imperial guard
>>569905506I suppose that orks will get a passive to represent their toughness, while eldar will have high evasion, marines will have high armour while guard will get jackshit for their infantry
>>569906314No, wait, im complicating things, just give orks high hp per entity
Mandatory mods>Red Lasgun laser>Male Custodes only>Pre-Primaris armor>Marine name changes (Intercessor changed to Tactical, etc)>All references to Primaris deleted>Marine gravtanks replaced with old treaded vehicles >Necron infantry voice lines removed>Dawn of War voice lines + music>Sexier Eldar and Tau
>>569905204I repeated myself twice here for the retard award but yeah Falcons are good, I find it somewhat hilarious how overlooked the Eldar are secretly a Mechanized-Armored powerhouse.I really want to see one of their Super Heavies in action, I love the Scorpion.>>569906179Honestly the greatest idea they had, and the most basic.
>one-shots your titan
>>569906657secondary take
>>569906657based grognard take
>>569905949>>569906302Big-True if Factual
>>569906657Add the Steel Legion reskin mod and we have perfection.
Each unit will have a wargear screen that you can swap out and you will be able to get higher rarity gear to slot into your units.It's going to be tedious as fuck but you will be able to bring your 40 unit customised army on other randomly generated campaigns.
>>569907374>Super Customized /yourguys/ armyCA is letting us paint them too, right guys?
>>569905683The original one has SOVL
>>569907698Yes. In fact people that have seen it say this is the most robust army painter in any rts in general.
>>569907698Of courseHow else will they be able to sell you digital paint?
>>569906657Glorious modlist
>>569907813>Paint mode is $15Well?
>>569907813>CA stops selling blood and gore packs>Starts selling individual color DLCs
>>569885251>Their body count after they returned from their Allies mission from Reikland
>army painter is completely locked down and Games Workshop C&Ds any mods that try to add anything to it
>>569908080This one is better.
>>569907698yes! in every colour you buy!!!
>>569906657>not removing squats mod
the vulkan or whatever they are called look way cooler than the tau
How is Nagash going to be different to other undead races?
>>569908479He isn't. In fact armywise Nagash is 1 to 1 what Ghorst is now. He's the zombie spam master.
>>569908612I don't see it, they're adding new units and there's absolutely no way they won't give Nagash a way to buff at least some of them
>>569908310This can't be fucking real LMAO?!
>>569906917Prompt?
>>569906657Red laserbeams will be the most downloaded mod
wait whatwhat color are the lasguns if not red lol
>>569909107GW will blow a gasket, DMCA strike it and then force CA to ban everyone who has it on their PC.
>>569909107>Red lasers become iconic to the setting>GW: Acktually the guns are like regular firearms that shoot yellow tracersWhy are anglos like this?
>>569906657>Purple Lasgun laser>Female models only.>Skimpy Power armour.>Advanced Animation replacer.>Necron Miku voice line replacer.>Sexier Imperial guard.>brown skin remover.
>>569909245according to GW lasguns were never red beams, but rather pew pew yellowish pea shooters and the video games were the ones that got it wrong
>>569909387This except brown skin is mandatory.
>>569909483But red beams would be a good contrast to the yellowish autoguns?Are they stupid?
Whats this drama about the Guard not having red laser beams? what did I miss?
>>569908479Didn't they already say he was going to be an undead superfaction (like Arkhan currently is but better)?
>>569909579yesSomeone at GW is extremely autistic for their lasgun headcanon
>>569909579>>569909697GW is retarded and anything good about Warhammer 40k comes from secondaries. There are many such cases of this.
>>569909697https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cvvjq1ua/las-canon-how-the-astra-militarums-indomitable-lasgun-works/
>>569906917https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2HohjpABvw
>>569909984>they arent literally lasers theyre just laser accurate hahafor fucks sake
>>569909697>>569909984Ever since they posted this article all the games featuring IG started to feature yellow peashootersDarktide was the last game to have red lasguns
>>569909809>Someone at GW is extremely autistic for their lasgun headcanonLasguns have had yellowish color in art since the early 90s. It's not autism it's old a fuck canon.
>give my IG unit grenade launchers>they start teamkilling themselvesVGH.... JVST LIKE DOVV.....
>>569910186it makes sense but 40k doesn't make sense in general
>>569910201space marine 2 actually
>>569909984lmao
Games Workshop's vision will ALWAYS trump your chud headcanon.
>>569908479He's gonna have all 3 undead rosters and you can bet they'll have caps that have to be expanded with faction mechanic currency.
ok this is just trolling
>>569910546>>569910641>Could have cool colours and different types of beams, different shapes.>No, they all look like gun flashes.
>>569908793>new unitsLike the Nagashizzar Guard?
I guess they were tired of the flashlight meme and went full >AKSHUALLY
When do you think the beta will be?
>>569911515I am already in it?
this lasgun thing is just to spite dawn of war 4
idk but I was signed up before the guy even finished speaking so I better be in !!Or maybe this is one of those betas where they let everyone sign up but only CCs actually get in.
>>569911515>>569911552Let me in! I playtested Hyenas!
>>569911515You did not get in?
>>569908479>floating pyramid>raze provinces>unique lore>gigantic roster (including LH and LL)
https://youtu.be/l0hD3KBwoiA?t=156I guess GW are all in on thislasguns ALWAYS FIRED yellow goyim
>>569911515Apparently we fucked up not signing up instantly.
Old World was supposed to revatalize fantasy and due to this it would provide more customers for CA....but it seems like it's going down hill
>>569911836RAGGGGGHHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK DELETE THIS YOU FUCKING CHUD BY PLAYING THE BETA YOU AGREED TO NO LEAKING FUUUUUUUUUUCK
I have never played Chaos Dwarfs.
>>569911836>4 currencies before you even get into a campaignuh.. bros..?
>>569912017If they weren't retarded they'd have just made a fork from end times where end times didn't happen but chaos still spread further and cathay sent an expedition force to relieve the empire.
>>569911836Hang on a moment... that hand...
>>569912334It makes sense British people would get priority for this. CA is a British studio.
>>569912154That's for the gacha system.
>>569912493Is it;>gacha for lords>gacha for troops>gacha for gear>gacha for paints>all of the above and they're each in their own banners with their own currency and legendary lords are limited banners and you need multiple copies to unlock their full skill tree
>>569874310The minimap for WTW has always pissed me off, it's too noisy. TW peaked with Shogun 2 and has gone downhill ever since.
>>569911939https://youtu.be/l0hD3KBwoiA?t=104LOOK GARY IT'S THE ELDAR, THEY'RE THERE TOO!
>>569912775Volound..
>>569912054>>569912154>>569912334>>569912665The currencies don't do anything at the moment, I think it's just a UI element.
>>569912665>earn currency in it or buy it>head to in game store>you can buy a named squad of space marines with a unique color for 1000 emperor-rations>buy it>now unlocked as ROR in game.
>>569911836Based Salamander
>>5699128173 second appearance befitting the popularity of their faction...
>>569912334Analyzing...Spectrum assessment in progress...User identified: British Male
total war has his own general, paradox has not. Really makes you think
>>569906179Fire Dragons represent the subtle art of running up on a nigga and obliterating them from existence, as mastered by Fuegan who is so hardcore he's apparently supposed to be the last man standing at the literal end of the universe.
>>569911836>implying beta is not using the official logo
>>569907698That was literally in the reveal trailer you blind git.
>>569912832Watch out anon, earlier there was a nigger with a suprisingly similar setup. Change your locks.
>>569913313Paradox fans were one of the reasons that /vg/ was made in the first place, then they became so annoying that they were thrown out of their own containment board
>>569913313The paradox general is genuinely one of the worst threads in 4chan history.
>>569910868More like Spirit Host.
>>569913962>>569913836how sorampant /pol/tardism?
The real question is will custom paint schemes and logos be visible online in MP? And what's to stop someone from having nazi marines covered in swastikas before their inevitable ban?
>>569914183Why would I cover my marines in swastikas and get a ban when there is in game icons from groups ten times more racist.
>>569914106No, it was just incredibly autistic, they would throw a fit if you replied to any posts and they would just go on about their personal lives and refuse to talk about new games. Was totally useless.
>>569914183Decency and principles will stop them.
>>569912832Show the credits right now
>>569910546>there were always female custodesGW are retarded, more news at 11
>>569914365damnI guess there's not much to talk about for maps + spreadsheets sims
>>569914365>they would throw a fit if you replied to any postsSo is /gsg/ an offshoot from them?>>>/vst/2422941They're still doing that groupthink
>>569914183Custom logos are probably going to be a white dot feature.
>>569914434Femstodes are important so the massive female section of the fandom can feel empowered. After all, a woman can only be strong if she can physically keep up with men and live up to masculine ideals of strength. Anything else is weakness and detestable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlxRXwpte6s&t=4585???
>>569913630Don't worry friend, I won't tolerate their kind around here.>>569914396Uh, sure?
>>569914624>So is /gsg/ an offshoot from them?Yes. They should all be IP banned until they stop coming here.
>>569915350uhhmm grace is alive and well
>>569873998>now they reskin whole gamesWhen Attila came out, the main complaint was that it was what Napoleon was to Empire, except it was full price; instead of just an expansion, like Barbarian Invasion.
>>569915350What were your thoughts on the part when Chaos Man showed up, went "IT'S CHAOSIN' TIME" and derailed the Imperium vs Ork plot into an Imperium vs Chaos plot after revealing Chaos was behind everything all along, completely catching you off guard despite the "subtle" Eldar warning throughout the game beforehand?
>>569914993Femcels can self insert as Sisters of Battle if they wish so
>>569916160I mean it's a pretty typical twist that they are putting in their prologues with the one in warhammer 3. So I don't mind it, I doubt they will keep up the narrative stuff in the game itself. I imagine that it's good for new players so they can show off more factions in the tutorial.
>>569916459They were considered too.. subservient? Or GW wanted to charge more for custodes models? One of those.
>>569916160Are you a writer for Space Marine games?
>>569916668I write for Dawn of War.
>>569911836I hope at least one person, for an instant, thought this was real.
just finished a 200+ turn campaign as grombrindal and im still not sure if gyrocopters are supposed to be better or worse than gyrobombers
>>569916160Absolute Cinema. The reveal trailer mentions fighting Aliens, Traitors, and Daemons btw. But we haven't seen any Daemons or Traitor legions yet?
>>569917596>But we haven't seen any Daemons or Traitor legions yet?In game but unplayable at release, of course. It's the tried and true method. wh1 and 2 playable chaos was probably the best it was
>>569916160PEAK 40k plot holy
Which ripped Daemon asset from Warhammer 3 will be the final boss?
>>569918203Danial of course. He will kill a major 40k character and it will be cannon.
MARAUDERS ALL!
Whatever happened to THUNDABARGE anon? What happened to peepeepoopoo anon?
>>569918312lvdo
>>569918360despoilers CUM
>>569911836Dude, The Imperium already controls Tartarus? Bullshit
>>569918401Legend quit anon.
>>569918360CLOSE ON THE SHEEP
>>569874667>>several factions still in desperate need of a rework (Lizardmen, Bretonnia, Vampire Counts, etc...)they need to rework the other 21 factions in the game back down to that level tbdesu
>>569918643He'll reveal he got into the 40k beta and start streaming again.
>>569918828He's going to return as Legend of Mostly Negative (EU5)
>>569914106you would think, right?but no
>>569918752THIS WILL BE THE GREATEST RAID, YOU'LL SEE!
I'm going to miss warhammer fantasy, guys
>>569919141It died after 2. Who cares?
>>569919141you're going to miss what, exactlythe game will still be here
>>5699193512 looked ugly and the archer spam meta sucked
>>569919141Mod overhauls will keep it alive like it did for games like StalkerThe modding age hasn't actually begun, end of DLC will be a greenlight for creators never needing to update their mods or have them break
>>569919862And wh3 is actually very moddable. Map and audio being editable really meant the sky is the limit with what they can do. That reminds me, I really should try the nagash mod soon.
the balls on these gypo cunts
>>569919141>missIt's still here. CA themselves said that they're going to keep working on it, even after the ET DLC is out.
Who wins between Orks and the Imperial Guard?
>>569918401Thoondabarge sailed off into the sunset with Wegh.
>>569920271imp guard are the GOAT and always win through resilience stubborness and grit
>>569920271The guard win when the orks hit their pre set kill limit and leave.
>>569920271Imperial Guard if they massed artillery. Orks otherwise.
>>569920271Guard just has to hold long enough to start producing Baneblades and Leman Russ. Then you can roll over the Greenoids. Just like Dawn of War.
>>569920350>imp guardI've already played those a lot in TW
>>569917138I find all gyrocopters except Trollhammer ones underperform massively when compared to Gyrobomber. Bomber also has far better bombing abilities for chaff clearing.
>>569920863>monstermanii (Red)SOVL
how long will it take for 40k to have an LL as sovlfvl and fun as Archaon?
>>569920970It took Archaeon nearly a decade to not become shit.
>>569920970Today the enemy is at our doah
>>569920970Play DoW Dark Crusade as Eliphas
>>569920159heh
>>569920970THE COWARDS! THE FOOLS!
>>569920970>>569921610soulstorm with the unification mod is basically TW-lite, I play a campaign every 1-2 years, last one was sisters of battle
So I defeat the enemy army in a few minutes then spend 15 minutes watching Beorg and a Fimir noble slaughter every unit I have including my lord until they finally brake due to army losses.Maybe Mp-fags are right about nerfs sometimes...
>>569909086>Gro-Kian, sing me an image of the greatest titan the universe has ever known, capable of instantly destroying a filthy monkeigh titan in one attack. Let not your voice falter.>>569921353I'm really hoping the 40k *clicks on unit* dialogue is good, if it's all just '4 cadiaaaa 4 chaoooos waaaaagh' I think I'd refund the game
>>569921080He was most fun when he was shit and his army mattered. Also we had the soulful LL unlocks that required doing random shit.
>>569922268>if it's all just '4 cadiaaaa 4 chaoooos waaaaagh' I think I'd refund the gameno you wouldn't you fucking sycophant
>>569922307Pretending old Chaos was anything but pure garbage is insane levels of contrarianism.
>>569922374You're right I'm not going to be buying it in the first place until it goes onto at least 50% sale and by then I'll have watched a video or two.
How do we get CA to make the unit dialogue like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMqzuvTpPI
>>569922268*OUTRIDERS*CA would never cut corners on voice work. Trust
>>569922237From the amount of kills the cavalry got it's obvious you are either playing on a meme battle difficultly or aren't very good at positioning or both.
>>569922413It was soulful because there wasn't any other chaos on the map. Now Archaon feels like the vanguard already did most of the work and the ordertide is dead.
>>569923620If old Chaos was soulful then Changeling is peak soul.
A reminder that Chaos Corruption can increase province Control by +10 if it is your flavour of Chaos Corruption.If you don't want to deal with rebellions, you should play as Chaos.
>>569923618both
*click tank commander*>DRIVE ME CLOSER! I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
>>569923853Public order isn't really an issue in wh3.
>>569923920I wouldn't put it past Andy Hall tbth
>>569923064CA takes itself too seriously for that
CoH1 and DoW1 had a special magic that we'll never get again.
Imo all the stuff they showed so far for TW:40K looked good, but I don't wanna be optimistic for it, since it's CA and they had a stream of fuck ups over the last few years.Anyone else feel like this?
>>569925342Yes! I am more confident about it now then I was 6 months ago but CA hardly has a stellar record of strong launches.If it isn't good on day 1 then I have faith it will be great a few years after release.
>>569923920Its bothering me that the tank commanders are riding around with the hatch open in the gameplay reveal. I hope theres a toggle or a white dot for this.
>>569925342The biggest problem with CA is they are liars.Like the cover system. Is that real, or is it just an illusion? We don't know because their marketing department is who is in charge of the information atm. Everything is suspect. Like there could be a cover system, but it is so insignificant it is easily ignored (like how terrain is currently 'there' but not really) and hell it could even be IG exclusive (do Space Marines take cover? We don't know).I wouldn't even preorder it. It is just too early to tell, and I got plenty of non-AAA games to play.
>>569925540Sir, this is a game where people bring swords to gun fights.
>>569925540>he doesn't know
>>569925669The cover system is when you dock Units in a platform that grants +20 Range. Its nothing we haven't seen before.
>>569925669The thing that made me drop dawn of war 2 was my space marine squad being basically required to hop from cover to cover to avoid ork shoota boys.
>>569925669There's a beta so if there are any shenanigans that catch you off guard at launch then that is on you.
>>569925872Hey, so let us list those weapons:Big cannon at the topMedium cannon at the frontLittle bolter on the sideBut what are the three canisters next to the big cannon at the top of the tank?
>>569925669>>569926034for me it was how 2 units next to each other had to shoot at each other for like 2 mins before enough shots connected to kill 5 dudesdawn of war 2 is dogshit, dawn of war 1 is GOAT
>>569926040>>569926034>>569926028My point remains about CA and their marketing department being liars. Rome 2's launch did permeant damage to the brand.
>>569925669We've literally had cover before so if there's one thing I believe them, it's that cover will cover you.
>>569926056Smoke grenade launchers I bet
>>569926034I only thing I liked about DoW2 was the campaign story. You could tell Relic wanted to make an RPG instead of an RTS.
>>569925669Weird that Warhammer games such as Dawn of War have Space Marines use cover but then any and all CG trailers and promotional videos have them facetanking everything. Not bad, not even a complaint, just something i've noticed.
>>569926446DoW2's cover system was stolen from CoH. And DoW1 actually did feature a cover system, it was just very basic and only involved standing in craters.
>>569926352Ahhh, that sounds plausible. It would be kind of cool.
>>569925701>>569925872It might actually be exclusive to hero units since the Leman Russ is a Master Engineer w/Steam Tank reskin.
>>569926412It was just a character focused Company of Heroes not some imaginary thing they wanted to make
DoW2 came about trying to reinvent the wheel. It is important to remember that the RTS genre was going through a slump at the time, and many games were being reviewed negatively by critics for being "another RTS". So you had a bunch of weird hybrids and experimental games, like World in Conflict (look ma, no base building!). The experimental era was a mistake of course, nobody really wanted to reinvent the wheel, but the powers that be demanded it.
>>569924585Its old enough that most people wont recognize itSo there is a very high chance it ends up in the game
I think it may be too advanced for CA but I hope vehicles like >>569925872 are able to fire at different targets with each of their weapons. For example have the cannon firing at a stompa' whilst the bolters mulch boyz but I suspect it'll only be able to attack one thing at a time no matter how many different types of weaponry the vehicle has.
>>569928165We've had autonomous ranged weapons since WH1 War Mammoths at least. But it would be neat if I could direct each weapon to focus a certain target.
>>569927437yeah difference is world in conflict is a 10/10 generational game thats a blast to play through at any time and dow2 is boring as FUCKKKKKKK its basically trying to be CoH and failing, the moment to moment gameplay is boring, its not even about the rpg elements, for example in warcraft 3 rexxar campaign the moba elements work great, because the gameplay is fun and solid, dow2 gameplay is pure clunk, i know its a liked game but i don't think any of its biggest fans have sat down to play it in the last 10 years
>>569928524>world in conflict is a 10/10 generational gamewhy do you think this? because you played it as a kid?
>>569928814I replay it every few years, its peak, best artillery in any strategy game, so fun to just eviscerate the map with it my fav TW lord is Elspeth for a reason lol
>DoW4 has no IGBut I don't want to play Mechanicus..
>>569931919yeah easily my biggest gripe with it
>>569931919there's no reason to get DoW4 now that TW40K is confirmedpeople saying they're radically different games and people will just buy both are huffing massive amounts of copium, and those claiming King Art can compete with CA are delusional(not hating, I actually liked Iron Harvest I played all the campaigns, but even I must admit it's a very jank experience)
>>569931919Too bad. You have to play them in Darktide anyway. You vill play the clankers.
>>569932692Yeah it's very sad but despite them being dogshit retards who are incompetent as fuck, studios like CA or Bethesda produce games that few studios can, or are willing to even try, to match.
>>569932692idk about "people", I'll buy both because I'm a big rts fan the games are releasing many months apart, 60$ isn't a huge deal if ur employed
Will Dawn of War 4 be the first 40k game since DoW2 to not be carried by its IP and instead be a good game?
>>569933125I was thinking of reinstalling shopclick but 90GB is asking a lot tbdesu
>>569926446>>569926034>>569926121Tabletop and all video games save for Space Marine have Marines use cover. Because why wouldn't they? Why tank something with your own armor when you can first use something else as a first layer of defense? And even in Space Marine (video game) it's worth to use cover, you just don't have that shit Gears of War button to glue to the coverDoW1 also had cover system, but really primitive one compared to DoW2
>>569902845Units are separated into 3 armour types so I imagine "light" armour will probably use cover while heavy or maybe even medium will just bowl over it.
>>569928524>i know its a liked game but i don't think any of its biggest fans have sat down to play it in the last 10 yearsthere are competitive matches constantly https://www.youtube.com/@IndridCasts/videos
>>569935086difference is even out of cover dow2 had squads next to each other shooting each other without anyone being reliably hit, the game is a fucking slog, the avg mission is a really big map that you basically crawl around with 5-6 squads dealing with various spots of pre-placed garrisoned enemies with explosives spam, I tried to replay it a while ago and gave up, soulstorm in comparison is always fun >>569935290i dunno about the mp, but the sp isn't that fun
>>569935086Leave it, space marine has done a number in secondaries expectations of marine powelevel in this setting
You're the secondary here though, this isn't /tg/ no matter how many times you fucks embarrass yourselves by treating it like it is.
>>569935425DoW2 is like 3 completely different games in oneCampaign is hack'n'slash diablo clone, but you control 4 units instead of 1Multiplayer/skirmish is a micro-intensive RTT designed around 3vs3 battles, where each player commands 1/3 of entire forceAnd there is that Last Stand, wave defense mode
>>569935595>>567599574
>>569935793nta but that reads like major butthurt lol you're not superior to anyone for buying little mini plastic armymen toys sybau
Now post the reply that blew you the fuck out. It may be a little tricky to find as you have post that exact copypasta atleast half a dozen times.
>>569935906Anyone can play a bideo game, they are premade toys so it's impossible to be a video game secondary. But you wouldn't be able to build and paint an army. You would be filtered. You are too inferior to achieve this.You know it's true. And it hurts.
You're a secondary because you're not here for total war, you're here for warhammer. you're as much a secondary to /twg/ as /twg/ anons are to /tg/. Difference is that /twg/ anons don't go to /tg/ and shit up your threads with off-topic barbie doll discussion.
I am superior to you because I buy GW's latest primaris slop like a good piggy.
>>569936513This (You)?
>>569936513Show us your army friend. Surely you have an impressive force.
so nagash wants to kill everybody and then what
I SIGNED UPWHERE IS MY INVITE
>>569938069Raise them
How can 5 marines withstand 100 shuriken catapults? They shred armour, yet im pretty sure guardians will come in 100s and incursors in 5s
>>569937863Unwashed TW secondaries could never.
Your filename betrays you.
>>569936513nigga you are bragging for achieving something a 7 year old has
Can reddi/tg/ fuck off already, this sudden influx of unwashed smell is reminiscent of warhammer 1 release in all the worst ways
>>569939296it's going to be way worse. unlike fantasy, 40k actually has players
>>569935086Dawn of War 2 heavily borrowed from company of hero's system and it really showed. There's a difference between using cover sometimes the way they do on tabletop and absolutely having to. Controlling a space marine tactical squad and a 1944 US Army rifle platoon should feel very different.
>>569939296fucking bastard need spice marines you bastard bitch bloody
>>569935651>And there is that Last Stand, wave defense modeLast Stand is exclusive to Retribution, it's not in DoW2.
>>569939931>spice marinesi kekdbut yeah tabletop fags are so annoying no one cares about your bing bing wahoooooo plastic toys game niggers, only good thing about 40k is the auxilary lore and games that sprung out around it, like dan abnett and kino like DoW1
>>569939931>spice marinesnow I wanna play aksum in attila again
>>569938248I genuinely cannot tell what this army is. Very bold and brash paint job.
>>569940172>bold and brashmore like
>>569940092I've always found it ass since it lost it's mystique with the advent of the Horus Heresy, downhill spiral from even a bit before that.>>569940112I wish I gave Atilla some more time.
>>569940510it hasn't gone anywhere, you can still play it
I fear Attila more than I fear Archaon.
>>569940510>>569941543I should play some attila too, shits fun, but its so damn hard, to keep the horse nigs in ur good graces, probably the hardest total war unless ur playing huns or white huns (Even easier huns) even as barbarian factions, you need to make sure the huns don't decide to assrape you, or sometimes rome manages to get their shit together and assrapes u, then again its been many years, I'm probably wiser now and can win
>>569941781and also I don't like the cheese strats people use to survive as rome, for example the onager thing, it feels so damn cheesy>>569941775archaon is a joke
>>569941781play the celt faction that starts in england, they're easy modeyou don't even have to leave the island, just conquer your two provinces and laugh as rome collapses
>>569941781The combat in Attila is probably the peak of TW. But the campaign is so insanely ass that I cannot bring myself to play it.
>>569942041now where tf is the fun is that last time I played as slavs got pic rel you can also play age of charlemagne"we have medieval 3 at home" cool game, attila is underrated>>569942110the campaign is a challenge tho can't deny that i love how when u raze a settlement its got that whole torching the whole province animation, lost technology
>>569942194>i love how when u raze a settlement its got that whole torching the whole province animation, lost technologyYeah that shit's definitely cool. I remember seeing it in the previews and being wowed.
>>569942194I don't think I've been in some of those provinces in all my (not very many) hours of playing attila
>>569942194sovl
also there is still dlc im missing for this shit the last roman was cool, never got around to playing it
Is there a mod to rename the Eastern Roman Empire to Byzantium?
>>569942194>>569942357>HyperboreaVGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fqb3cPPfuM
>>569942691eh it's a much more historically accurate since byzantium is an invented new term a century after constantinople fell, it was known as eastern rome in its time, never bothered me
If the autist still working on Rome 2 manages to fix the combat and make the game play like Attila I might actually boot up Rome 2 again.
>>569942691The leaders of the east still spoke Latin at the time so they get a pass
attila had some celt cuties
>>569943487>women mercenariesThe price we had to pay for no niggers in Warhammer.
>>569943606vgh... roman bussy
>>569943584Guy who thinks migration period mercenary bands were entirely made up of completely healthy men age 18-30.
>>569944082nta but im sure there were some 50 yo men in there toowomen are way too weak for that thoughand rapeable
>>569944471Guy who thinks 5th century PoWs didn't get raped if they were men
>>569944082Who the fuck would hire a female mercenary? They literally had to lower requirements for soldiers in the US army just so women could get into certain positions.
>>569944880whatmen on campaign aren't that desperate, right, they could always rape a lil while pillaging, its not like prison, then most of em had wives or what not home, nobody's raping men unless they were twinky as fuck dude
>>569943606I look exactly like that btw
>>569945224Hi
>>569945224
>>569944962You don't do individual job interviews and check resumes idiot, you toss a bag of silver to a chieftain and hope his band doesn't have too many people who are starving, or maimed, or will run away at the first sign of trouble.
>>569945251hey..
>>569945727>or will run away at the first sign of trouble.So no women then kek. The biggest redpill on female fighters is watching burger bodycam videos and seeing how all female cops ever do is scream and get bodied by some skinny criminal.
T'au WHEN
women are so ridiculously weak I just can't see em being warriors, like maybe bowmen?
>>569945039For sure bud. Everyone in 5th century europe and the mediterranean were good christian boys that had the same thoughts about male on male sex as you.
>>569946035Never hopefully
>>569946256i am aware that pagans were dirty degenerates, but still, a straight man wouldn't really wanna rape another man's hairy unwashed ass, you are aware that people could masturbate whenever? few months of campaign is no big deal
>>569946425>a straight man wouldn't really wanna rape another man's hairy unwashed asstell that to the greeks
Attila's balance makes no fucking sense, I'm still mad at the fact that your general cavalry unit might lightly graze an enemy footman unit while galloping away and half of it will get a heart attack.
>>569945868Why did you reply to me?
>>569946553attila really needed some love and careful balancinginstead we have spet xyon archers and slavic poison that murders everything with one arrow
>>569946553IT WAS CAVALRY'S TURN TO BE GOOD YOU CHUDEMPIRE HAD MISSILESROME 2 HAD INFANTRYIT WAS CAV'S TURN
>>569946542i said a straight man not a gayreek
>>569944471Migrating tribes would routinely mobilize women for combat because the difference between survival and annihilation was sometimes 20 more bodies. They weren't fighting in strict formations like Greeks where a weak link would break the whole chain and they weren't marching at a military pace because they were entire societies on the road and warriors needed to stay close to the baggage train with the children, the livestock and the provisions. The edge of a spear is still pointy no matter how strong or weak the arm holding it. Children fought as soon as they were old enough to hold a shield, elderly fought until they were too old and infirm to keep up with the charge. Even those injured and maimed were often pressed back into battle. If the battle was lost then anybody back with the wagons was as good as dead; might as well die in battle.
>>569946425Would it blow your mind if I told you not all of them were straight? Also, guess who will try to get themselves assigned to guarding prisoners.
>>569946794>Migrating tribes would routinely mobilize women for combat[citation needed]but no, seriously. show me a source
>>569946183The Scythians had actual, fully fledged, non-last resort female warriors; they're the basis for the Amazon legend. I guess they were just built different or some shit. For some reason they never get representation in leftist shit.
how long until total war 40k 2
>>569947073this art was made by romans, how sure are we they acutally had that and it wasn't some mythologized event/meme made by some schizo greek historian after he heard a drunk soldier tell him that he got his ass kicked by a woman one time in scythiamaybe that happened and "half naked female warriors" just became their thing, so easy to mythologize shit back then
>>569947329Never, 40k will be a single game built upon over a decade.
>>569947376>some mythologized event/meme made by some schizo greek historian after he heard a drunk soldier tell himisn't this like 80% of herodotus
>>569947445KEKAROOOOOO
>>569947376I mean they DID find women buried with weapons, arrows and horses . That said, they were basically the only people to ever do this, and they don't exist anymore today, so maybe that's why no one re-tried it.
hate to admit it but dawn of war 4 UI mogs total war 40k UI so hard, how hard is it to make smth like this instead of going for that faux digital look, looks ass
>>569947573Don't care, no guard no buy.
>>569947557I think it's just neato that you hate women too much to be able to think clearly
>>569947841>hate womenOn the contrary, I LOVE WOMEN, which is why I don't want them fighting in wars, just like children, they're too precious and should be protected.
>>569947967damn this nigga's paternalistic
>>569947573>16 unitslmao
>>569947573Legend fuck off, it's unsightly
I genuinely want to know what the games are going to look like on consoles. Because either they're going to be downgraded to shit, or they're going to run horribly. TW games already run awful, so I'm tending towards the latter.
how the fuck is tw:wh40k gonna work on console?
>>569948203>>569948228
>>569948317can't wait to see console players micromanaging their fast units while getting their ranged units out of melee.
>>569948481They're probably going to have super slow mo on, on all difficulties. Idk I tried the AVP RTS for the PS2 once, and the controls were honestly really good for what the game was, but with console controls, you basically have to entirely rely on pathffinding and units actually doing what you told them to do 30 seconds ago, and the game had some of the worst pathfinding I'd ever seen, to I dropped it pretty quick; which is a shame because it seemed interesting and I love both IPs. Maybe there'll be a PC port with mouse support one day.
>>569948146The digital look to the UI in 40k looks bad and you know it
BROS I JUST RECEIVED A MESSAGE!!!
If you stir a packet of sugar free jello into a cup/240mL of hot water, let it sit for a while, then add 240g of plain, nonfat greek yogurt and whisk it until properly blended together and refrigerate for a couple hours you have a pretty okay tasting low calorie snack that will make your family think you're eating a bowl of pepto-bismol. LL's for this feel?
>>569947376the Scythians and Sarmatians were doing it for a while there, women are lighter therefore weigh down a relatively small steppe horse less, and generally have better manual dexterity than men so it's not insane to imagine them pulling their weight (literally) as horse archerssteppe waifu horse archers are historical
damn bros I'm assaulting this shit
>>569949562Skrag
>>569949643my boys are being slaughtered the minute they get onto the walls
>>569949847good, fuck orcs gondor 4life
>>569949847my fucking nazgul died>>569949937fuck you, the world of men shall fall
>>569950067that didn't go so great
>>569946993Might be in the Getica somewhere but I doubt that anon has heard of it, he's talking out of his ass. I am aware of earlier sources talking about Germanic women defending their towns when need be but most definitely not actually serving as soldiers.
>Servin' our liege!Were levied English peasants really this enthusiastic?
>>569951543no. do you have any other questions?
>>569951638Maybe later so stand by
>>569951543those are Bretonnians
>>569951543Obviously, they got to serve their superiors (the French)
How do you fit 100 Guardsmen into a Chimera?
>>569951543>look to the knights, they're so brave!Luv these lads
>>569952480They walk up the ramp and vanish until you disembark at which point they appear on the ramp and walk off into formation.
>>569951726no problem buddy
>>569943606that legionary must be greek
got em
>>569951543Unironically for most people being billeted meant you get better and more consistent meals and you work less. You do a lot of marching, setting camp, hunting, digging and general camp labour. You'll probably only see real combat once in a campaign season and typically outside of some great generational struggles (like the Hundred Year's War) the battles will be one-sided.So yeah, often times peasants were pretty enthusiastic about being levied and morale in the camp would be quite high as long as the food was good.
>>569952480Tanks are single entities but transports don't necessarily have to be.I see a couple of ways they could implement it>SE transportsChimera magically fits a 200-man unit of Guardsmen inside because game design is hard.>multi-entity transportsTransports are combined into a unit large enough to fit an entire unit of Guardsmen and can transport any regular infantry type>linked transports/dismountsA transport comes with its own soldiers combined in a single unit card and can't transport anything except its linked unit of soldiers.>transports abstractedA loading screen mentions that infantry travel the strategic map inside Chimeras but they're not present on the battlefield or recruitable as a unit.
>>569955112The problem with multiple entities transport isWhat happens when one vehicle explodes? Do you lose a portion of your units? You cant fit units anymore because there is no space? What if your lord was inside the destroyed transport? You didnt choose which specific transport to put him in...And so on
>>569955112I think there are some assumptions we can make:`The game does not currently have functioning transports`The devs and players want functioning transports>Is it possible? How will it be done? When will it be ready? How will it be released?Much is still hidden from my sight.
>>569955112I cant see anything but clown cars the other options have logistical problems
>>569955112what if they were like chariots are now in WH3 except a unit of guards can disappear into them
>>569955763good enough
>>569955689'wounds' already exists, apply wounds status to transport, so their damage scales proportionally to their hp, they all explode at once. you kinda dumb, just let niggas handle it bruh
Haven't played Grimgor since Gorbad took his place. How is his new spot? And how are the shielded black orcs?
>>569956574Imagine Blorcs...but now they take less missile damage. Does that sound okay to you? That's because it is.
>>569956724can you post a side by side image so we have a better idea of what we are dealing with here?
>>569956574the new greenskin units ucking annoy medid we really need anti-large goblins, or shielded balck orcs? no we fucking didn't
>>569956837https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Orcshttps://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Orcs_(Great_Weapons)
>>569956574pic related, zog em mate
>>569956837twwstats
>>569956898They were already reaching to be honest. Mangler Squigs were all the GS roster was missing.
>>569956837just look it up https://twwstats.com/unitscards?units=f%3D0%26k%3Dwh3_dlc26_grn_inf_black_orcs_shield%26m%26r%3D0%26v%3D994043630235584661&units=f%3D0%26k%3Dwh_main_grn_inf_black_orcs%26m%26r%3D0%26v%3D994043630235584661
>>569957548Nigga, if you can't handle a guy carrying a shield You are going to fucking hate 40k then. Every squad can be equipped with half a dozen special weapons. The options are going to leave you drooling and gasping for breath.
Are black orcs supposed to carry you through the whole game or do orcs have any higher tier infantry
Greenskins need like 15 more units before their roster is complete (13 reskins)
>>569957916blorcs is as good as it gets with them, and they're strong enough anyways
>>569957916>orcsGoblins are the meta. Coincidentally they also get boosted by the only fun GS LL there is, Grom.
>>569958269>meta>DID YOU GUYS SEE MY LATEST K8P SPEEDRUN PB OMGjust kill urself nigga
>page 10dead general
>>569958556The meta for having fun. Night Goblins have spinnyfunni, what do Orcs have? +5 defense for 10 seconds?
>>569958556>nooooo you can't ask what's most effective in a concise way ahhhhhh
I considered making a thread but I'd have to removed all the [embed] manually and I can't be bothered
How can vamp counts deal with massively armored factions?>b-but your lords can solo armiesMaybe but I need to manually fight every single battle.
Finally giving Archaon a try. Can WoC confederate eachother a la Ogres and GS? Or is it some kind of mechanic?
>>569961275Only other WoC factions (Valkia, Festus, Vilitch, Be'lakor, Kholek).>>569961239Just blob and use Wind of Death, otherwise graveguard w/ great weapon or polearm along with blood knights, don't use ghosts because they are too fragile in my opinion.
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