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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss Sonic the Hedgehog General!

/sthg/ #9390 - Kitfags are fucked up Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog General's 35th Anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog General 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic the Hedgehog General Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog General Live in Concert
https://sonicliveinconcert.com/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog General #87 - 17 June 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog General #3 - 01 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog General: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog General X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog General #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog General #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog General X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog General #89 - 09 September 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>569836853
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IDW is trash
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Mysterious portals are awful lore and undermine the Silvaze tanabata narrative.
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Crazy Taxi is great
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>playing sonic games
> or watching a 2 hours essay why Sonic games suck
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>>569890513
Wolf! What happened?
Wolf?...WHISPER THE WOLF!!!
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They should stop making new fucking characters to juggle since they can barely take care of more than 2.
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>>569894326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lN8we7ErgA
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>>569894326
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>>569894513
it's the opposite, Silver is forced to leave Sonic's time regardless of his personal feelings
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>>569894390
CrossWorlds literally has him use that same tech for portals. Its the fames whole gimmick.
How do you think he sends the invite?

>>569894513
1. What makes them horrible
2. How so?
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>>569894326
90% of Kitfags blocked me over my Kit getting cucked drawing
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>>569894676
Step aside i must check her heart beat, with my hands
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>>569894326
>OP still not fixed

Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9390 - Kitfags are fucked up Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic Live in Concert
https://sonicliveinconcert.com/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>569836853
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>>569894326
Bobbutterbutt is sucha lolcow lol
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>>569894390
>>569894798
you guys know you aren't supposed to take Dodonpa seriosly right? It's the same about Big being super powerful, just a joke
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>>569893823
>>569893974
Sonic Team considers IDW canon and supervises the art and writing (the extent varies since the characters sometimes act in a way that's not right for them like Sonic and Silver). Plus, there's a bunch of merch that portrays Sonic and Amy as loving each other
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>>569894138
>9AM this morning
What is your time zone?
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In general the narratives of Sonic/ Blaze and Silver/ Blaze being difficult to meet/ visit is cheapened by the various means of interworld travel but especially by Ring Gates.
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Guys just give up
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>>569894810
>act like an annoying retard
>"why does everyone treat me like an annoying retard :("
The next part of my post will make you seethe for the same reason

>>569894893
I don't know what you fixed, but I'll say the #10000 Project link is also broken. So you could fix that if people still want to care about it. Not like anyone even reads the OP though

>>569895114
AIslop fake news channel kek
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BUT I’M A CREEEEEEEEP
I’M A WEIRDOOOOOO
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>>569894810
lol I remember you.
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>>569895024
Sonic and his friends won't invite Silver to their parties because he's a lame loser sounds better
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>>569895114
>new playable character
yfw Tangle
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>>569895224
I read the open to get into the booru
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>>569894326
Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>569895005
>Sonic Team considers IDW canon
More like canon adjacent. Soft canon. If IDW loses the license, then anything related to it would be vaulted like Boom. It's all temporary.
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>>56989476
One can assume, but we've never seen the mysterious portals actually do that. Why are they even doing that? And how does they relate to the Sol Emeralds which only ever move Blaze because of the Chaos Emeralds? It's always some "fate" shit but there is no actual lore.
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>>569895334
I have it in my history so it doesn't matter for me, but if I didn't then yes I'd look for it there
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>>569895338
That gay owl couple
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>>569895224
I read the OPs
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>>569895437
>only ever move Blaze because of the Chaos Emeralds
You made this up
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I like the idea of Shadow having this symbol on his hand
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>>569894996
Big is canonically strong, frogshitter.
Characters being more silly doesn't make it a "joke".
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>>569895352
Boom is alot easier to vault because it was always AU like the other media projects, that was even a minor point in the Archie/Capcom crossover. Prime will also also be easy to vault if Sega wants because of how standalone it is. IDW actually integrates itself because Ian took notes and is a fucking leech.
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>>569895437 (Me)
for >>569894765

Like "oh my portal is here I *have* to go". Like why? Is the portal timed? Is that just something I'm supposed to assume? What happens if Silver doesn't go to the future? It's not like Silver even does anything in the future to begin with. He can just stay in the past and protect the future.
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Cream the Rabbit.
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>>569895490
I do too, sometimes. Remember that time someone replaced the YouTube links with the CardCaptor Sakura opening for like 2 weeks? I was the only one bringing it up other than the guy who messed with the links. No one reads the OPs on a regular basis lol
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>>569895114
no, but like where else could you announce a switch 2 exclusive? on xbox showcase?
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>>569895714
kill yourself tranny
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>>569895759
Silver lives in the future and considers it more important than Sonic's time.
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>>569895532
That's how the emeralds work in Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, and Sonic Channel.
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>>569895734
He's strong, but can he FIGHT? Probably not all that well, even Bark has a more impressive ground-game.
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>>569895734
it's a joke, Big never shows that strenght, he jobs all the time, and it's just there for comedy purposes. Dodonpa is the same. He is super powefull but it's just a joke and not a serious character
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>>569895158
Cute Kitty :)
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>>569895759
In Silvers defence, i wouldn't want to live in 1826
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>>569895785
lol when was this?
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>>569896132
I think it was around late April or May 2025. No one ever directly mentioned that the links were changed, I noticed but I just posted song lyrics without context at the start of some threads. Eventually the link was removed only because the news became old lol
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>>569895338
Your mom n Me
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>>569895759
the reason why the postal appear has nothing to do with Silvaze
> It's not like Silver even does anything in the future to begin with.He can just stay in the past and protect the future.
How is he going to warm Sonic about the future if he stays in the past?
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>>569895954
Big is probably not a super strong fighter but he is strong. And him being strong is not a joke.
>>569895987
Big lifts a car in the very scene to progress the game and lifts a glacier to Crack open a frozen lake to fish for Froggy later in the game.

He is objectively strong and was always meant to be strong

Big has also never jobbed. He has a better win/lose record than Knuckles, Silver, Shadow, etc.
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>>569895759
Anon, you're retarded.
This? THIS is autistic utilitarianism.
Silver has a home and a life in the future.
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>>569896335
>mom
Anon...
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>>569895838
nah
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>>569895951
No it isn't. In Rush, they are there because Eggman stole them.
In Rush Adventure, they are there because the game takes place in Blaze's Dimension and Whisker stole them.
In Sonic Channel, Sonic goes to her dimension with the Chaos Emeralds just because.
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>>569896132
Found it https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/521795760/#521795760
I was misremembering though, it lasted 3 threads and someone fixed it
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>>569894810
Can I see?
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>>569897101
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Douge
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>>569896717
media illiterate
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>>569897265
Why would kit be sad? Kit is gay for Tails, you should do Sonic raping Tails in front of Kit!
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>>569896989
lol
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>>569895891
Silver is such an underrated character, man. Every time I see him and his futuristic appearance, I think of him teleporting and shooting energy from his gloves' pads to fight an enemy in the midst of an apocalyptic scene and then teaming up with Sonic and Shadow
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I can't leave this general
What's happening to me
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>>/co/154102252
Can we compete?
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>>569896365
>He has a better win/lose record than Knuckles, Silver, Shadow, etc.
To be fair, this is because Big rarely fights big baddies.
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>>569897989
Same
Decide on an activity you want to do, close the general without thinking about it (you'll be back before you know it anyway), set up a timer for like 15 or 30 minutes and try to focus on that activity until it's over, then you can come back. This usually works for me, the hardest part is forcing myself to start

>>569898071
Let me fix that link >>>/co/154102252
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>>569897836
>make incorrect statement
>explain why statement is incorrect
>"media illiterate"
????
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>>569898071
>he doesn't know how to link across boards
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>>569898319
I forgot you need three arrows, fuck
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>>569897872
Nono, Sonic isn't gay.
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>>569894732
Sonic Twitter works that way, you have to act morally superior when you don't like something, then when you get called out for doing that shit you victimize yourself.
It's so tiresome
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>>569898273
Its not even that. Sonic characters dont often lose to big baddies. Only Sonic does as setup.
Its just that Big doesn't fight people often to begin with.
But he and Team Rose beat Team Chaotix and helped fight Metal Madness.
Big is a champ.
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Yep. That's me. In pixel-form, falling off a cliff at the hands of my "best" bro, Tails. You might be wondering how that happened. Well, it all started when...
>/Sthg/anons, finish the rest of the story, one sentence at a time!
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>>569898843
I took a shit in the wrong portapotty.
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>>569898843
>>569898958
Then I heard a knock on the door.
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>>569898538
Yes I'm aware of that
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>>569894326
amogla
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>>569899139
It was my long-lost friend, Mighty the Armadillo, who for reasons unknown to me at the time, punched me in the nuts.
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>>569894514
>Take me to the Original Levi's™ Store!
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>>569894865
https://youtu.be/8NzlexwDRC4?t=30
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>>569894690
>New awesome Sonic game
>Older age rating
>Gritty, dark story with actual stakes and consequences
>Game starts with Eggman violently killing two characters
>They're gone forever

Who do you choose?
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>>569900508
Tails and Amy
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>>569900508
Dodonpa and Zazz.
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>>569900603
oof, brutal.

>>569900636
heh, no-one would care though.
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>>569900508
Silver and Blaze let's just end their suffering
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>>569900508
Sonic and Eggman
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>>569900761
I would care. I fucking hate Dodonpa. Can't believe they brought his ass back after his first failed game.
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>>569895754
>IDW actually integrates itself because Ian took notes and is a fucking leech.
A licensed comic is easy to bury. Especially since kids are focused on the movies over it. TailsTube and the Chaotix audios are niche things only hard-cores are aware.
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>>569900508
Bean and BMighty.
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>>569895241
Cuties!
https://youtu.be/JpTJs3uqEX4?t=26
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>>569898319
MARIO RAPES
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>>569900874
>Eggman violently kills himself
....Well, that'd be an interesting way to start the game.
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>>569900865
Poor guys.
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>>569897682
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>>569900865
I would kill Silver, but because I want him to be reincaranted as a baby. I want more kid characters. Tails doesn't really count, and Cream and Charmy barely appear
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>>569900883
We will repeat this character until you like it.
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>>569901928
>AKA The Sonic Cycle
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>>569901928
He's fine. He's actually a good villain. It's the rest of his shit group that I wish would all go away. Thankfully only Zazz is left and he's the most tolerable of them, but I want him gone, too. But Zavok is actually calculating, cruel, and dangerous. I don't mind if he stays.
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>>569901928
>The red part isn't even his mouth
Fucks me up
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>>569900953
Why dafuq was Bean even created when there was already a green bird who was Tails' rival and can represent his game's bomb-throwing?
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>>569902307
bottom jaw?
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>>569902352
Probably because Tails sent all of those motherfuckers straight to hell by the end of that game.
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>>569901928
Zavok is good and I'm tired of pretending he isn't.
LostWorld was just a shit game for anyone to debut in.
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>>569902352
Dynamite Düx reference / homage
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>>569899601
It felt good.
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>>569901331
He got tired of constantly losing so he decided to end it all. And because of his massive ego he wanted it to be spectacular.
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>>569902657
I agree with you Mr.Naka
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I never cared for silver
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>>569902352
Bean is a reference to Dynamite Dux
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>>569901902
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>>569902925
What brought you back after so long?
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>>569894690
Removing every character but your pet character wil not give your pet character more. Stopping them from making new characters will not give your pet character more. Stopping them from making or using new characters will not increase the quality for existing characters in Sonic Team media
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>>569902802
Stop lying, Blaze. You aren't fooling anyone.
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Live action makes sense for Sonic when considering the Adventure Era and X. Mario NEEDS to be animated, but not Sonic. Live action works better to adhere to his cool identity, even though the filmmakers for some reason don't make him cool.
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Hi guys! I’m a sonic fan and a Jew, is that ok?
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>>569902701
Based.
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>>569903353
>Sonic fan
kill yourself
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>>569903109
That post said nothing about removing characters or giving attention to others, schizo.
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>>569901538
This concept is stolen from Sonaze. Silvaze is just temu Sonaze.
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>>569902451
His mouth is behind the..mouthguard(?)
>>569902657
The electrocontrol experiment was a success.
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>>569902687
I the proceeded to propel myself upwards through sheer orgasmic, explosive diarrhea. I fly straight through the roof and up into the air, where I meet my best friend Tails, the faggot.
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>>569903107
>Implying I ever left
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>>569903337
I kinda agree. Proximity to reality in some form makes his feats cool and impressive.
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>>569903617
>implying you didnt
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>>569902352
It is a homage to the older game Fynamite Füx
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Wild how they made Hope about as tall as Sonic and co but made her 16. It's like they were aiming to make her Shadow's GF.
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>>569903109
I was talking about creating characters then leaving them in the dust causing their fandoms to act like kit fandom in the OP
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>>569903594
>propel myself upwards through sheer orgasmic, explosive diarrhea.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/431937
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>>569903490
> stop making new fucking characters to juggle since they can barely take care of more than 2
This is stating that they find sonic team incompetent at using characters and the only conclusion to this is the belief that reduced number of characters will make things better

>giving attention to others
The only reason to stop new characters is the idea that the characters already around are neglected and misused
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Have you ever wondered why girl hedgehogs don't have quills on their backs? It's so they don't get in the way when mating.
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>>569904318
I'd happily lick Amy's back until she came.
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will we ever become like this?
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hedgehog dick
rabbit pussy
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>>569903903
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>>569903889
Did you know? Sonic-Maria Bothers Two is a reskin of Diki Diko Pineapple
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>>569904023
I haven’t seen that in years. BLAM THIS PIECE OF SHIT!
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>>569903337
Mario did live action before Sonic movies existed
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>>569903903
Very anime honestly.
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>>569904661
>made to receive ultimate dick seed
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>>569904597
Based and pics when?
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>>569904945
>Gets knocked up
>3 months later
>Dies giving birth to 73 adorable leeches
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>>569903903
Shadow and Hope being a thing fits his arc to a T and is close to what Maekawa wanted for the character. And also the PSME thing. It's the obvious endgame for him.
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>>569901928
The Zeti only have bad character design working against them
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>>569904763
I remember they wanted to cast Tom Hanks as Mario and it was supposed to be like Wizard of Oz.
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>>569905560
>Shadow... I beg you... give her a chance... to be happy...
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>>569905560
>Chaos Controls her clothes off (so she's more comfy sleeping)
>Proceeds to smell them until sunrise
>Hope finds them neatly folded on her windowsill
>Small, sticky stain on the top
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the fact that no Sonic character reasonably has a clothes beam ability means we have archetypes to fill
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>>569905560
She literally wears his colors. How is she not supposed to be his love interest?
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>>569905696
How strange.
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>>569905812
Not the first jizz joke in Sonic, oddly enough.
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>>569905663
I wonder where Uekawa was during their design. He never misses
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post the gif
you know which one
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>>569906321
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Maria is a cuck
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>>569906176
I can name each and every single one of these twelve characters!
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>>569906702
Who drew that?
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>>569906147
Can't believe they actually allowed this into the show and it was aired on Nickelodeon too. Degenerate "humor"
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>>569894326
kit would never
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>>569906740
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>>569906321
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>>569906871
>Super-grippy shoes
They fixed this though, right..?
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>>569907049
>xittertroons laugh at THIS dying
Those sick freaks and their intestinal parasites.
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>>569906176
We had it so good.
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>>569907335
Best stay away from the former blue bird.
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>>569906740
Not a cuck if it's literally her. Japs love reincarnation so Hope would be Maria for real.
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>>569907335
Truck...
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>>569907978
Based TB.
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>>569907502

Maria blackface
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>>569908172
jej
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Sonic Eclipse has been leaked to appear on Direct
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>>569908339
kek, what even is this?
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>>569908858
And then Sally fucked him while wearing glasses.
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>>569906909
wolf amy
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>>569908339
but how can there be an eclipse if hAlF oF tHe MoOn Is GoNe?
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>>569908339
Looks like 06+Black Knight+Unleashed with a dash of Kingdom Hearts.
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>>569908975
the moon is only broken in canon content. if your sonic content that was made after SA2 has a complete moon and was not said to take place before SA2, it's not canon. yes this includes unleashed, colors, lost world and front ears
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*collapses suddenly, unresponsive*
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>>569909265
06?
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>>569909586
Hey.
Wake up.
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>>569908748
>>569909223
It is Kingdom Hearts
At least booru says it is
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Sonic leak rumor. Lolita storybook game. Sonic and the Juicey Cunny. That's all from me.
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>>569909593
nope
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>>569904318
Amy has back spines but she grooms them because she's trendy and fashionable and wants to seduce human men like me.
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Scribbleanon.... Chroniclesfag... the world may never know
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>>569906321
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>>569908858
Ass design for Sally. Looks too much like a dude.
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>>569909265
In all those cases that was just the Egg Moon.
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>>569909586
Looks like she had her last asthma attack.
>grabs butcherknife
At least we can have rabbit stew tonight...
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Bros... they're making fun of Sonic again...
https://twitter.com/troydatuffest/status/2063987400167026994
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>>569910283
sonic events are mid. Shadow events are goated
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Earless: Year of Jewel
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>>569904225
>This is stating that they find sonic team incompetent at using characters and the only conclusion to this is the belief that reduced number of characters will make things better
No stupid. Its saying if you cant figure out how to do even just two, adding a bunch all the time is gonna make them ALL ass.
Learn to read

>>569904225
>The only reason to stop new characters is the idea that the characters already around are neglected and misused
Making shit up also Archie isnt getting into the games.
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>>569910182
Its like the artist wants her to be unsexy
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>>569910352
>Egg Moon.
sonic eggs is not canon
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We make Oriental Sonic game.
We call it,
>Sonic and the Duck Sauce
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>>569910540
hating Sonic Channel is forbidden
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>>569910908
i shit on what i want if i think it deserves the shitting
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>>569905663
There designs are objectively good. You just dont like em because they arent cartoon animal people with cartoon animal proportions
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>>569904318
>>569910069
I want to see a mannish Amy with back quills.
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>>569910127
Definitely not the same guy
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>>569910492
Could be worst. Could be a dead franchise.
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Would people hate it if they gave Sonic a sword and armor in an open zone Sonic game
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>>569911324
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>>569910540
2027 will be either the Amazing Year of Amy or the Menacing Year of Metal
trust the plan
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i want to race with Asuka
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>>569911707
there's no difference between getting uninteresting slop with no real target audience and not getting anything at all
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>>569911770
I'd rather have Antoine game than forcing every new gimmick on Sonic.
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>>569911785
What plan? If those are real, they won't be as good
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>>569911707
What the fuck were they fucking thinking
>hurf durf alternate dimensions
we wanted the fucking real one
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>>569903501
sonaze isn't really the same thing ,nishiyama and the game itself is about power of friendship, and the ending is much more upbeat with the hope that they will meet again. silvaze is starcrossed lovers narrative
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>>569910669
>archie
Don't care about it. Don't know why you brought it up
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>>569910492
One day, Sonic Team is gonna give mementumautists what they want. The general audience is gonna hate it. Then momentumfags will insist it was just SR being too incompetent rather than it just not being fun for people who arent autistic.
Never getting off this ride.
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>>569911785
Sonic and Amy need to become a couple and Metal Sonic needs to be as scary and intimidating as Megatron
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>>569911949
I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>569912295
>Sonic and Amy need to become a couple
fuck off
>Metal Sonic needs to be as scary and intimidating as Megatron
I agress
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>>569911785
Lover Year of Amy Rose
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Samsung TV plus thing got a channel that exclusively airs DiC Sonic cartoons. but it's not available everywhere. i believe it's US only for now
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Sonic sonic Sonic sonic sonic sonic Sonic sonic
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>>569911949
Nobody gives a fuck about Antoine.
People would rather see sonic's spinning and speed used with the sword instead.
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>>569911017
nta but a simple change by adding something to the center of their chest would fix their designs
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>>569912759
I'm nobody
but you're right, a lot of newer fans love satbk sonic because sword so they could easily do some cool shit like that again
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>>569912658
Is it free like the Roku channel?
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>>569912413
I guess this guy's a nobody.
>>569912759
How that did work out for SatBK?
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>>569912990
yes
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Open Zone in the Black Knight world would go crazy actually.
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>>569912295
Fuck Megatron.
We should make Metal go schizo like Post-Movie 86 Galvatron
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>>569905812
I can't understand smelling people's stuff. I've been infatuated with girls before but I would never even think about sniffing their things. They'd just smell like sweat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V55x99zQz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyMTh6BxMfA
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>>569912295
I don't know where they can go with Metal. Eggman has good reason to keep a tight leash on him after Heroes, and it's not like any attempt at rebelliousness will ever top that anyway. Now that he has a "sister" he's even more likely to stay dialed down. He's been reduced to a jobber for a while now and he'll likely stay there.
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>>569913168
>new series
>new episode
Man this image is old. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>569913305
Sage would just order Metal around.
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>>569913003
>How that did work out for SatBK?
The reason the game even exists is because test audiences loved it. The hatred it got on release was always forced.
People praise it these days while admitting the gameplay is mid.
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>>569913168
>They'd just smell like sweat.
Yeah, their sweat.
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>>569913431
Cute!
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>>569913541
>People praise it these days while admitting the gameplay is mid
It plays way better with a controller.
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>>569913431
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>>569913541
In other words, it got the Werehog treatment of something passable being seen as a grave sin
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>>569911554
I'm retarded or something because I cant tell if they are the same or if this is a joke
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>>569913640
There is no "2"
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>>569913305
Making him a recurring enemy to satisfy classicfags was a mistake desu.
He should have stayed a thing that comes back rarely but with impact.

If they wanted a recurring Sonic bot to right, they should have did what the mainline classics did and have a new Mecha model each time instead.
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lol for some reason
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>>569913850
Too late now.
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Real Leak: "Chroniclesfag" is getting Taxman'd. The big 35th anniversary secret is that Sega is officializing his game as a sendoff to the older portions of the Sonic franchise. There will be changes since a lot of the older comic material is mostly off-limits, but it will be worth it since this means certain unresolved cliffhangers will get wrapped up in the game.
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>>569913837
That's it.
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>>569913769
They're two different guys with nothing in common
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>>569914030
Bullshit
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>>569913168
How small is your dick?
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>>569914030
>as a sendoff to the older portions of the Sonic franchise
what a load of crap. sega either sells those older portions to sell nostalgia or pretend it doesn't exist
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>>569914257
Being a degenerate Slaanesh worshipper doesn't make you a Chad.
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>>569913850
>they should have did what the mainline classics did and have a new Mecha model each time instead.
Then we'd end up exactly where we are today but multiplied

fans:
>Why did they make a new robot sonic when they already have X robot?
>When are they going to bring X robot back? I love that robot
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>>569913967
Is he going to reveal information about the next mainline game there? That's what he did for 2024's anime expo
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>>569913850
>>569914675
How about
Mass-reproduced shitty Sonic robots while Metal is given a more important position.
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>>569914675
People would have accepted it better since Mecha would be coming back upgraded each time.

Metal is a lot more of a standardized design which makes him more of an actual character.

Mecha changing and being a diff model everytime would make it better for recurring bossfights since he would be bringing something new to the table each time unlike Metal.
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>>569914907
Judging by the trailer that's what the fourth movie is doing.
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>>569914030
I wish that were true.
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>>569914907
Like Metallix? Wouldn't be the first Fleetway win
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>>569913967
new sonic anime from TMS kek
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>>569914030
Chroniclesfag should kiss me
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Fang mini-series was a waste of everyone's time
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>>569915002
Eh, that's better, but it is sort of a sidestep and leads into similar discussions of wanting a particular design back, or God help us, quill length discussions or the latest Metal Sonic discussion on the Elon musk site
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>>569915537
It was basically just a Superstars prequel to explain why Bean, Bark, and the Hard Boiled Heavies aren't in the game.
Also a HIDEOUSLY MISSED OPPORTUNITY to ACTUALLY explain what the FUCK the eighth Chaos Emerald in Sonic the Fighters was, it was implied to be a forgery by Fang but for some asinine reason they just blueballed and ignored it after teasing us.
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>>569916198
wasn't the 8th emerald the warp topaz?
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>>569916294
Thar's what they implied - that he mistook it for a Chaos Emerald - but everyone thought it was going to be the official explanation for the eighth in Sonic the Fighters.
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>>569913967
>Falls asleep during reveal
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>>569916198
It wasnt implied to be a fake. Its stated he stole it from someone.

Also there was 8 because back then there were not a single set of 7 emeralds.

Also, did we need an explanation for not HBH, Bean or Bark?
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Is the anniversary reveal really the only thing to look forward to besides idw and mobile game updates?
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>>569914030
No anon, I'm not even going to bother adding this to my collection of fake Sonic leaks
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>>569916736
>Fang robbed Honey, who made an Emerald REPLICA, just so he can weasel his way into the tournament
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Hello /sthg/
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>>569916542
Well, it kinda was.
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>>569916948
Yes? Unless you expect them to reveal the new trailer somewhere else
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post the screencap of ian confirming sallicole
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>>569915537
that's IDW as a whole honestly
>>569916948
Yes and it's just gonna be frontiers switch 2 edition and a 30 second teaser for a game that will come out August 2027
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fuck
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>>569916198
>Tails separating Sonic and Knuckles fights

See that's neat
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>>569916948
Nintendo Direct tomorrow, anniversary stuff, possibly something from Izuka at Anime Expo, Gamescom, and TGS. Any of those could have something, but there's no way to know which ones.
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>Captcha expired as soon as I click
Is this a new bug? It happened yesterday as well

>>569917146
Hi hi!

>>569917231
Cute
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>>569917326
okay
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>>569917398
>He expects news in the Nintendo direct
Anon...
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>>569917432
Your Tails pic went to oblivion I assume
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>>569917540
I don't expect anything beyond official announcement of Frontiers Definitive, but I'm just saying there COULD be something.
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>>569917628
Nah I just didn't post one. Here it is!
That did actually happen a couple times a few days ago though, I posted a pic and the post went through but the pic didn't
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>>569917514
The more I see this the more I think it sounds like an awkward position
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>>569912658
How do the DiC shows work legally anyway? It seems like Sega doesn't have any involvement because so many companies sell it for free
I ask because I know it's not just a Sega thing and the Mario DiC cartoons are treated the same and Nintendo are way more anal about Mario than Sega is about Sonic. Does DiC (or whoever owns the remains of DiC in 2026) just own them entirely?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHO84rOp8FQ
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>>569917851
Lol two more renditions of the same pose
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>>569914030
>Sega officiating a game full of humans, vaulted characters, virtuafighters, titties, and breast physics
No
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>>569918153
Iconic Tails poses!
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Tailstime!
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>>569918314
I love the peace sign one because it shows off his figure
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>>569918438
And what a figure she's got.
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>>569918438
>figure
He's built like a jellybean with rubberhose limbs.
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>>569918213
>tail caressing

Chroniclesanon gets the assignment
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>>569918438
True
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>>569918570
Yeah that's his figure
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>>569918138
for sonic's case. they are supposed to be owned by SoA. and they still re releases discs for those shows. last time they did was 3 years ago, as for why they are sold for free. idk maybe licensing is that cheap since sega doesn't really care for them but will still keep them around since free money and exposure. specially the exposure part.
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Tails' jellybean belly figure and rubberhose limbs <3
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>>569918138
Sega owns them, I think this was already confirmed
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>>569917647
SSS

I fucking kneel
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>>569918857
They're so fucking cute bros. Holy shit.
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Time to fly!
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>>569918138
Sega of america owns every DiC character. I believe it's in the credits of Sonic Underground. It's the Archie characters where things get messy
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>>569918857
You can see it even under clothing
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>>569903594
Tails was so repulsed that he kicked me off the cliff, and that's where my story ends..for now.
What, you want to know what happens next?
Heh...me, too...
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This place is so dead that the pedophile took over the thread all by himself.
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>>569919080
Time to transition!
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>>569910559
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>>569894326
https://x.com/frackdeals/status/2063068562919669877?s=46

Sonic is a bottom
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Sonic, Tails, Amy & Knuckles, the Green Hill Zone Adventurers

I don't know if they ever used these phrases. Maybe on some merch

>>569919147
Nice...
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Goddamn tailsfags are pathetic
Both the ones posting tranny bait and the ones pretending to ignore it
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>>569918747
>>569918930
>>569919138
I guess they really just don't give a shit then because they're basically all on Youtube for free and basically every streaming service
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nLhQRqv-fU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yvsoWwg5xw
Same with Mario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wfnUKSJQlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB-t9vbfWBQ
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>>569919080
I think I saw a notebook with this cover once
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>>569919354
If you hate Tails you hate Sonic and should leave.
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>>569919284
>The Green Hill Zone Adventurers
none of them are even from South Island

dumb
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>>569919535
Who is? Eggman?
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>>569919427
Those shows are old and physical releases is dying out. So companies just dump them on YouTube and probably get some money through monetization and stuff. Cartoon Network does the same with some of their older stuff
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Cutest everything!
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>>569919428
Oh, awesome! I don't know much about Sonic merch since I basically never saw any until recently. Although at some point as a kid I had one of the Tails McDonalds handheld games. It wasn't exactly mine, but no one else cared about it. I wish I put more effort in keeping it. It's probably still around but I don't have the opportunity to find it. Oh well

>>569919535
I agree

>>569919579
The small animals
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>>569919702
Shadow handing the title of Ultimate Lifeform to Tails.
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>>569919775
Only Tails thing I had was a bootleg plush toy that disintegrated over time lol
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>failsfags
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>>569919960
Cool! Well maybe not the disintegration part but still
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>>569919427
as I said. they don't care much since they don't intend to use them and it's free exposure for normies to get into sonic

>>569919660
they re released physical discs for all the old sonic shows in 2023
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>>569920008
why do failsfags fail at everything?
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>>569920140
I know they did but they probably don't make much money

>>569920135
c:
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>>569919220
Based.
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blaze milk
blaze "milk"
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>>569920237
They imprint on a bullied nerd who fails at everything.
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>>569920485
now you can add Yuta to make a trio
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>>569920448
Would need to knock her up first.
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>>569920578
That's Kit though
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>>569920295
:3
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>>569920485
>>569918213
Totally.
A.
Different.
PERSON
!
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Doesn't take a genius to guess why creamfags attach to her.
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>>569920757
idw is estrogenslop, yes
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>>569920659
Kit is a school shooter simp with mental issues.
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^-^
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I FUCKING HATE
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>>569920781
So malleable!
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Phrases
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>>569921026
HUMANS
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>>569921061
Yes you can do anything Tails!
https://youtu.be/7fzMxxyklTw?si=qP0sbrfKW1fTFwvm
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>>569920921
>estrogenslop
an acurate description of sonic 2006
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>>569921061
You forgot the most important one.
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there are no humans, only an eggman
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FuckMyPastdow my fucking goat of a paragon.
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>>569921221
Yeah!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34UYzSJ-VDo
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>>569921331
>I put the past behind me
>*walks past blue shoes*
>M-maria?!
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>>569921281
sonic has been estrogenslop and babbyslop sincew yuji naka left
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>>569921061
Love her!
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>>569921221
So brave!
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>>569921454
It's not always EASY okaayyyy!?!?!
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>>569921395
I love this album despite the engrish
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>>569921281
>>569921476
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Look it's Tails!
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>>569921476
since Maekawa took over you mean
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>>569921530
Why did Nishiyama seem to hate her?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvy85gR9C6A
I used to think that part of the Invincibility theme in the Adventure games that sounds similar similar to You Can Do Anything was a coincidence, but then I that interview where Senoue said he did it on purpose because apparently the Sonic CD soundtrack was popular with Japanese fans and he wanted to replicate that

>>569921673
I don't mind it lol
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>>569921331
He mentions Maria's wish in the same game btw. Moving on NEVER meant he was going to stop protecting the planet Maria loved, or forget her, or stop mentioning her. You will NEVER get that.
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>>569921331
>who's maria
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Miles 'Trans' Per Hour
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>>569922024
I mean JP CD tracks were in the game as DC DLC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcBmasdbM-A
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>>569922183
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Kogitsune
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>>569922183
I snorted
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>>569922183
Transitioning at super sonic speed!
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>>569905560
>psme
does this tie into psme lore? would this be a chronicles thing then?
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>>569921026
THIS WORLD AND THE HUMAN WORMS FEASTING ON ITS CARCASS
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>>569922341
Yeah that's cool too
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>>569922551
[Spoiler]don't encourage him.
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>>569922183
>didn't even bother using a girl's name like Millie
If you're going to spam the thread trying to bait people with LGBT stuff could you at least put a modicum of thought into it?
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There should be more game-over animations like in Crash Bandicoot, I mean drowning and getting eaten are fun and all but I want Sonic to die in more interesting ways
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:)
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>>569922183
She looks great in that jacket.
>>569922801
I just love Tails bro! I'm not sorry that upsets you.
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>>569921061
>”Life in the fast lane”
>referencing that time Amy got a bowling instructor that kept hitting on her
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>>569922872
>more [...] animations
Small indie studio. Prease understandu
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>>569921061
Where's Let's do it to it
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>>569922801
>retard fell for the bait
LMAO
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>>569921061
>"Sonic's the name, speed's my game!"
>Generic Phrase
dafuq
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Try to keep up Tailsfriends!
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>>569921061
>Knuckles gets ONE (1) line
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エキドゥナ!That's what I'm representing!
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>>569923537
never seen a mic hog spit like a menace
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Now i want to know why bubsy resurrected and crash bandicood did not.

Sonic fans will tell me.
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>>569923481
Even back then they knew.
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>>569923191
That style guide is from the mid 2010s, I wouldn't be surprised if the current one has it

>>569923220
I was surprised too. When the games are written in Japanese first there are a lot more generic phrases that get reused for each character, so I think there are Japanese versions of these documents and Japanese writers or at least Sonic Team use them a lot more
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>>569923592
Wild Canyon, fun. I gotta chase a bat, huh.
Yeah Rouge, she sexy and smooth!
A double cross spy thief that's out for my jewels, uh!
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>>569923901
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>>569923637
Crash 4 fucking flopped and to be completely real with you it's a reverse-Sonic situation, only the first game was great.
Bubsy on the other hand thrives on irony, you can make him dormant like Bubsy 3D did but you can't kill him since he knows he's shitty.
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>>569924162
>spoiler
I like the first game the most of the original trilogy, but most people will tell you it's the second one that's the best. I think they're all good, though.
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>>569921992
What makes you think that? I'm an Amy fan by the way
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>>569924214
Tails' the name, transitioning's my game!
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>>569923494
He also has "Play to win"
Whatever that means
Wait I thought he had no time for games
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>>569923481
Isn't Tails 4 years old in this show

why does he have mega milkers
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>>569924214
>Class of 1991
Is this implying Sonic has a birth year of 1973 or am I a tard?
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>>569924408
Tails gets addicted to transitioning and changes gender at least once a month.
>>569924504
Post-op
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>>569924574
No, I don't think they thought it through. That said, Sonic's official birth year is 1947
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>>569924162
Crash 1 isnt even great. It has the NaughtyDog issue that Jak 1 also has where it only caught on for being technically impressive for the type and doesn't do anything particularly unique or interesting to give it legs, with a slap dash universe.
t.Crashfag
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>>569924820
Jak 1’s universe is the early 2000s equivalent of vagueposting, but I still prefer it to the blander world the sequels cooked up.
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>>569924697
Sonic, the 79 year old Hedgehog
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You're too slow!
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Where'd my Tailschads go? Tails?
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If Amy is supposed to be a gyaru, why doesn't she look like one, or act like one, or at the very least someone tells you she is one
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It's of some use
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>>569925101
Or at least that was the early marketing in Japan in 1990 and 1991

Also, more phrases for STK
>Leave it to me!
Cool, that's one for Tails you actually hear a lot
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>>569925105
Hell yeah!
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>>569924404
Maybe hate is exaggeration but:

>gave her bad gameplay in Avdance 1
>realizes little girls got filtered by this
>makes new character to be easier for little girls to make up for it instead of fixing her gameplay
>on top of this, bury Amy behind 28 emeralds in the game where people didnt even know you coulf get emeralds I because of how unituitive it is to get them.
>Amy's gameplay is just Sonic again anyway
>Have Amy written like a brainless airhead in Battle to make Cream look level headed by comparison.
>Amy is known for her dynamic with Gamma? Recreate it with Cream with Emerl/Gemerl.
>instead of having Amy be the primary character to befriend Blaze, have it be Cream instead and have Amy be played for jealousy memes and made fun of for liking Sonic.

Maybe he didn't hate her, but i get the sense he made Cream as a replacement Amy and was more than happy to throw Amy under the bus for her, and prioritized having his OCs be besties over logistics.

Knuckles also similarly suffered with him making Knuckles a boss in Advance 2 and be tricked for no reason and oneshot by Blaze to make her look cooler.

I sometimes wonder if he resented Cream being made to be Amy's sidekick or something and thats why things happened the way they did.
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Boy!
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Sonurge is so much better than Sonamy.
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>>569923637
>>569924820
>Crash Bandit's best game was a Mario Kart clone
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>sega is going to embrace generative AI and further dilute their brands, turning Sonic into Slopnic the slophog
>nintendo has stated they refuse to use generative AI for their first party titles, so they’ll continue to mog everyone else in the AAA and AA fields
MarioGODS keep beating the shit out of us. Every single time we have the chance to pull ahead SEGA fucks it up. EVERY single time. wtf do we do? Just give up? I’m fucking tired of losing every single battle to the plumber as a sonic fan
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*sniff* *sniff* *sniff*
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>>569925847
AND Girl!
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Sega slander....
https://twitter.com/joniton_dude/status/2064052616582025655
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>>569926164
Good, fuck Sega
Of course they bring back fan favourite franchises just to sloppify them
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>>569922129
Never said he did, schizo. Look at the image closely.

>>569924820
>for the type
Meant "for the time"

>>569925063
I also prefer Jak1s world and xharacters and vibe, but the sequels objectively have a more unique and thought out world with a more distinct appeal.
It's just one that also has no legs. Its stuck in the time it was made.
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>>569925063
>Jak 1’s universe is the early 2000s equivalent of vagueposting
I mean....that's the case for the vast majority of mascot platformers, including Sonic.
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Trip game tomorrow at the direct
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>>569925256
Amy's dress, knee-length boots, and bracelets are supposed to loosely resemble a gyaru outfit, particularly a kogal one. She does act like a gear though. She likes flashy and stylish clothes and shopping for stuff. She even acts like one. Instead of being quiet and reserved, she's talkative and energetic

>>569925738
he didn't give her bad gameplay because he was just a writer and producer, not a gameplay designer but he did create Cream. I don't like how he wrote Amy to be angry and unhinged just to make Cream look cuter and level-headed in comparison either.
Amy has always seemed to be the franchise's reject even though she's one of the most popular characters. I hope 2027 gives her the good treatment she's needed since a long time ago
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>>569926164
oh please, these people will still buy it. they have no personality outside of the media they consume
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>>569926498
I wouldn't mind, she's cute
Though I have yet to play Superstars
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>frontiers 2 uses AI
>flops
>sonic fans stop giving a fuck
>sega takes a hard line stance against fanworks to stop people from leaving the AI ranch
It’s crazy to consider that AI might
actually kill off the sonic fandom. Sonic has survived literally everything else only because of the fans.
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>>569925256
Sonic is a rebel but he isn't dressed like a rebel. Its a part of the character rather than the whole of the character.
Amy's kogalisms is reflected in behavior, manner of speech, personality and interests, etc rather than her literally being
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The yuropoor sonic x intro is kinda shit
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>>569926584
I probably wouldn’t stop being a sonic fan because I like the porn and Archie but I wouldn’t ever buy a new game. I’d become one of those insufferable classicfags. I’d only play rom hacks and fan games from now on
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Having dick in your ass or mouth must feel weird
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>>569926895
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>>569925909
FYI some people suspect that some of Mario Kart World's posters were AI-generated, compared to how they look in previous games. Of course Nintendo's tactic is to stonewall until enough people lose interest and abandon the subject, it's not exactly easily proven anyway. And for THAT, I can at least respect SEGA's honesty a little.
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>>569926535
>Amy has always seemed to be the franchise's reject
But that just doesn't make sense when you look at the other games.
The idea she was "the franchise reject" doesn't reflect her consistent usage and appearances.
After Tails, she is the most recurring character even after the shotty friends purge from 06.
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>archiefags will be the only Sonic fans who won’t see their part of the franchise ruined by ai slop because Archie is verboten thanks to Ken Penders
Did… kenders end up becoming the hero by accident…? He ensured Archie, Satam, and aosth would never get tainted by nu-sonic or AI.

The boomers… fucking won? But how…
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>>569921061
You're too slow and too easy should switch. I've heard at least three other characters say too easy and no but Sonic say you're too slow.
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>>569925256
>>569926664
Kogal fashion has evolved since the 2000s. You have to keep that in mind.
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>>569926535
>I hope 2027 gives her the good treatment she's needed since a long time ago
She will be with the movies, if they didn't do anything we're rightfully going to call it misogyny
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hey guys it's me sonnic the hedgehog here to say "hi!" to my favorite fans!
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>>569926950
What does this gif mean
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>>569927407
He is unimpressed
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Ohtani said he doesn't want to use AI on Sonic games, but I don't know if he's aware of what everyone at Sonic Team is doing. At the very least it probably means he won't use it for music though, which isn't surprising
All video games companies will use AI eventually and people will just get used to it. Probably around the time Nintendo starts doing it, which will be sooner than you think. Nintendo fans will be the only major loud group left still actively against it, but it will be just to praise their favorite company, and they'll switch their opinion as soon as they need to defend Nintendo, everyone else did it so it's okay for Nintendo to do it because they didn't start it or something, this is how it always goes

>>569927132
Maybe whoever made it was thinking of
>Too easy! Rakusho dattaze!
which is Sonic only
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>>569927078
Well, Amy does make consistent appearances but I called her the franchise's reject because she barely got any story development with Sonic. It would be until Frontiers that she got story development with him. Not even the IDW comics have done her justice
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Cute cute
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>>569927120
Penders is one of those rare mythological figures who was a hero, got perceived as a villain, then lived long enough for people to come around to seeing things his way....
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>>569925256
She does.
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>>569927048
Bleak. The worst part is that you know they’re still going to be charging 80, 90, and soon (thanks to gta6) 100 dollars per game, while cutting corners and making things as cheaply and quickly as possible. AI won’t be used to add more complexity, quality, depth, or length to games.
Industry crash when?
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>>569927685
You really believe that unless Amy gets with Sonic, nothing about her matters and I find it really upsetting as an Amyfan...
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>>569928112
Based and same.
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>>569927048
They can go to hell since the new Yoshi game showed signs of Ian-ism. Sure, it's a throwaway "comfy" title, but for god's sake, it's NINTENDO. They're supposed to be above that. I wouldn't be surprised if the Star Fox 64 remake used AI and they're suppressing that detail for now.
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>>569927334
>if they didn't do anything we're rightfully going to call it misogyny
Yes. Iizuka got his precious year of Shadow. There's no need for him to have a 2nd trademark of Shadow

>>569928112
Amy was specifically created to revolve around Sonic. While I like that her rescuing Birdy, changing Shadow's heart, and mothering Emerl did good use of her character and highlighted just how much of a kind-hearted person she is, it's a disservice to her character to not let her and Sonic be a couple. She was created to be the Minnie Mouse to his Mickey Mouse according to Kazuyuki Hoshino and she's supposed to fulfill that role by being Sonic's girlfriend
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>>569928112
>>569928570
Nothing about her matters because she was never important. This shilling that she's been getting recently is forced
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>>569928687
>shilling
What shilling?
>recently
Like... the last two decades?
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>>569928616
Real ones know the reason why sega is looking for a new writer is because Ian quit due to the AI slop that’s coming to us.
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>>569928616
What else do you wanna call them?
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>>569925738
Fucking retard got what he deserved. Cream was vaulted and Blaze got permanently stuck to Silver
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>>569928683
>it's a disservice to her character to not let her and Sonic be a couple
It isn't. She was created to be Sonic's wannabe girlfriend, not for the relationship to actually be fulfilled
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>>569928046
>Industry crash when?
When games get too expensive for what they actually have and the use of generative AI is only going to hasten that. Nobody wants to pay 100 dollars for a game that was largely generated with AI. No one will buy and developers will be forced to make good games again
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>>569928853
>What shilling?
Are you not paying atention
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>>569929014
Let's say I'm not. What shilling?
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>>569928927
Sonic already got a new anime, its called Sonic Prime
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>>569928616
You'll have to explain what's wrong here because I'm not updated on my Yoshi lore
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Would you still love me if I were a worm
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>>569929402
Said Black Doom
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>>569928687
Amy has mattered since the beginning and has been important since the Saturn and SA1 especially.

>>569928683
>Amy was specifically created to revolve around Sonic.
She wasn't created to do so any more than Tails really. Most characters are designed around Sonic to varying degrees
Regardless, that doesnt mean her worth is reduced purely to whether or not she ends up in a conventional romantic relationship with him or not.
Real Amyfans were invested in her chase because we liked the character itself.

I dont see how its a disservice to her if she does or doesn't. It doesnt add anything in of itself if she does. It would just be a change for changes sake.
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>>569929459
>Amy has mattered since the beginning and has been important since the Saturn and SA1 especially.
She was never "important". No one is important except Sonic by default and Shadow.
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>>569927048
>>569928046
>AI is so terrible and ruins the quality of games
>but you can't even tell when it's actually being used
genuinely what is the problem
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>>569929459
>Real Amyfans were invested in her chase because we liked the character itself.
Yeah, I think it's a cute part of her character and I like how they've given her growth around it.
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>>569928954
Not them and I dont think its a disservice to her to not be in an out n out relationship with Sonic, but I also dont see why It would be wrong for it to happen either.
I just hate that they are insisting it has to or else its some failing of the writing or something.

>>569929654
What is your damage?
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AI hysteria is just leftists spinning themselves up over nothing.
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>>569928954
>She was created to be Sonic's wannabe girlfriend, not for the relationship to actually be fulfilled
That turns her into a narrative jobber then, which is bad writing and it denigrates the sincere love she has for Sonic. How can she be Sonic's Minnie Mouse if she's not actually his girlfriend? I'd like Kazuyuki Hoshino to answer that because it makes no logical sense

>>569929459
>Real Amyfans were invested in her chase because we liked the character itself. I dont see how its a disservice to her if she does or doesn't. It doesnt add anything in of itself if she does. It would just be a change for changes sake.
The chase is supposed to lead to something big like how suspense is supposed to lead to the climax in a story. If she did get with Sonic, it would rescue her from this limbo where Sonic can show romantic affection for her back but can never truly be her boyfriend. Think of all the nice and heart-touching they would have if they were a couple. If would resemble the ones from Sonic Unleashed but of course, Japanese men are cowards who don't know how to tell a girl I love you and they believe that showing affection is wrong
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>>569929781
If you’re cutting corners by using AI, you’re also cutting corners elsewhere. It reveals that you’re less interested in making a high quality product and more interested in making as much money as possible.

It is, and I don’t mean this in a racist way, the mentality of Indian scammers and temu ripoffs. Sometimes you can’t tell if it’s counterfeit either.
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>>569930027
>The chase is supposed to lead to something big like how suspense is supposed to lead to the climax in a story.
You're one of those retards that expects Johhny Bravo to stop flirting with women arent you.
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>>569929967
>maga is fine with shit being in their food. It’s just poop you can’t tell the difference. Every vendor in Bangalore has poop in their food. It’s normal. You can’t avoid it
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>>569929967
>>569930046
Why can't Sonic Team just use AI to accurately translate the original Japanese scripts into other languages? It's the most practical use for AI
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>>569930167
erm sweetie Johnny Bravo is problematic
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>>569930046 (me)
I am unemployed by the way
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>>569930046
Developers already use generative tools to speed up creative processes all the time. They already use licensed assets bought from packs. In Super Mario 64 boo's laugh is Bowser's laugh sped up.
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>>569930315
That's a stupid idea.
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I would like to see more style guides, but I guess only some of the mid 2010s ones got shared

>>569929919
I don't think it would be wrong, just that it doesn't need to happen. I like Sonamy, it's cute, but I don't think not making it happen officially unambiguously is an insult to Amy's character

>>569930027
Sonic characters are not literally the characters they were inspired by

>That turns her into a narrative jobber then
This is only a problem if you care about powerscaling/shipping debates online
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>>569930046
it's the way the world works, grow up and get over it
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>>569930315
I wouldn't mind it as an assisting tool but you still want someone with actual experience with the language in order to do localization for things that dont translate like expressions or idioms, or tropes that dont translate directly from japanese to an english equivalent.
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>>569930027
Have you seen a Tom and Jerry or Wile E. Coyote cartoon before?
Cartoons like that had a dynamic between two characters designed to never finish. They were meant for entertainment and humor.
That's Sonamy, the chase is forever, not because the people in charge are "cowards".
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>>569930597
>I don't think it would be wrong, just that it doesn't need to happen. I like Sonamy, it's cute, but I don't think not making it happen officially unambiguously is an insult to Amy's character

Right, you get it! Thanks btw. Sometimes I worry im crazy for thinking this.
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TOMFAGS BTFO
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>DUhhhhUhhh AI CrINGe BinGe
AI is the future, you’re being replaced. Get over it. Its a Palestinian Holocaust up in this industry.
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>>569930896
QRD?
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>>569930597
Sonic and Amy aren't Mickey and Minnie Mouse respectively, but they are supposed to have a very similar dynamic and not one where Sonic runs away from her and Amy chases him

>>569930785
The Tom and Jerry and Wile E. Coyote analogy doesn't exactly work because romance is supposed to be sincere and not played off as a disposable joke
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>>569931024
Tomfags are pathetic retards simping for a failed cat. They can't keep losing. They need to respect us JerryKINGS

>>569931031
Amy loves Sonic. Sonic only sees her as a friend. She is okay with chasing him. There is nothing wrong or disrespectful about this
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>>569931031
>The Tom and Jerry and Wile E. Coyote analogy doesn't exactly work because romance is supposed to be sincere and not played off as a disposable joke
Brother, it's been a joke since day 1.
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>>569930708
That's true. Plus, if Sonic Team uses AI, we won't have to deal with vastly different English and Japanese dialogue and neither would anyone else.
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>>569930394
You’re right and this is a big reason why modern games are complete shit, and why games haven’t been good for a long time. Everything is a shitty asset flip. Everything already IS spiritually AI art.

Just because consumers won’t care doesn’t mean it’s right to do, however. ai art is degenerate art. But this didn’t begin with AI, the first big regression was probably horse armor and generic game engines like unreal engine.

Luckily, you have a lifetime of retro games, old movies, old books, and old music that is far better made than anything you will see made in the post-AI era.
Asset packs are why games aren’t art, and can never be art.
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>>569930046
I'm not super pro-AI but at some point corners do need to be cut somewhere. Technology and gamer demands are increasing to a point where budgets need to be fucking massive and game dev turnaround times need to be 5+ years.
There was a 2 year gap between SA2 and Heroes, which was designed to be a multi-plat on entirely unfamiliar hardware (DC -> Xbox, GCN, and PS2) and still featured all sorts of goodies like CG cutscenes, introduced new and old characters into the series, had full voice acting, multiple brand new levels, etc. We're almost four years out from Frontiers and still haven't heard a single thing about a sequel. Something needs to give somewhere.
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>>569931261
>retro games
Re-read my post nigga

>>569930634
They can't even tell. They have this idea that artists meticulously handcraft everything.

Like what about samples? Sans Undertale is famously a sample of Patrick from SpongeBob.
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>>569931031
>romance is supposed to be sincere and not played off as a disposable joke
This corny ass nigga hates Pepe Le Pew.
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>>569931331
>Technology and gamer demands are increasing to a point where budgets need to be fucking massive and game dev turnaround times need to be 5+ years.
This is a self-inflicted wound. Game dev is easier than ever before. People just use existing game engines (Unreal, etc.) or big companies build their own and use it for like a decade. No one codes an entire game from scratch anymore. These tools are so widely available that any random jerkoff can download and use them for pet projects. The real problem is that AAA budgets are massively inflated for a level of polish that's rarely noticed and for stupid shit like extremely expensive licensed music that inflate everything so that they can prove to shareholders that they have a product worth selling and a company worth investing in. The reality is that indie devs make games on a shoestring budget and do incredibly well and people are receptive to lower budgets if the game is fun.
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>>569931031
>Sonic and Amy aren't Mickey and Minnie Mouse respectively, but they are supposed to have a very similar dynamic and not one where Sonic runs away from her and Amy chases him
Sonic and Amy were made specifically to be like them (gender counterparts) but with a dynamic that was unconventional (Sonic is averse to relationships and romance and Amy is all about relationships and romance, and she is the one that does the pursuing)

The reason Minnie even exists is to have a Girl Mickey and love interest for marketing. Amy does that whether she is in a conventional relationship with him or not.
Which is why all the merch uses them together already.
Its interesting and different and I dont get what some of yall's obsession is with treating the different and interesting aspects of these characters and this series as flaws rather than features.

Yall really want them to be pic related. Its weird.
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>>569931331
>budgets need to be fucking massive
>game dev turnaround times need to be 5+ years
No it doesn't. I'm tired of this stupid narrative. Neither of those things are needed, and if getting higher budgets is making them take longer to make games that offer less, like Forces and Frontiers, then something is seriously wrong.

>There was a 2 year gap between SA2 and Heroes, which was designed to be a multi-plat on entirely unfamiliar hardware (DC -> Xbox, GCN, and PS2) and still featured all sorts of goodies like CG cutscenes, introduced new and old characters into the series, had full voice acting, multiple brand new levels, etc. We're almost four years out from Frontiers and still haven't heard a single thing about a sequel.
Exactly. I'm not inherently against AI, but they made all those games without AI, so that doesn't mean much. If anything I wouldn't be surprised if AI means they need to take an extra 3 years on each game for some reason
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>>569931176
Sonic does like Amy back and Amy wishes she and him were a true couple

>>569931193
>It's been a joke since day 1
Too bad for Sonic Team. Unlike them, westerners take romance seriously and don't see it as a disposable joke and aren't trapped in a fantasy of wanting to be high schoolers forever
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>>569931031
Rape is funny
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>>569929225
They weren't called Mini-Ravens. That was an old fan-name that Fandom pages still use because fanon weirdos there like to fork dated junk they grew up with for some reason. The Japanese name of the mini version means something closer to "Rave-chick" (ひなキュー). There's even unique code when playing in Japanese that was completely squandered in English where part of the name is cut off if you default-name "Raven" (キューちゃん).
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>>569931639
I knew what you said before I replied. Asset packs are a little different than fundamentally randomly generating every aspect of the game using stock assets. Games that did this were rightfully scorned as lazy asset flips.

You can argue they only need to use AI for secondary or tertiary assets and still have an art direction, but that won’t feasibly happen. The rate of profit must always go up and the companies that can churn out the quickest products with AI will outlast the ones that try to make quality products with AI.
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>>569931795
Sonic does like Amy, but he doesn't want to be in an intimate relationship with her because he considers her immature and annoying
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>>569931795
Nigga, get a fucking girlfriend.
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>>569931193
Reducing it to a joke is also incorrect. It simply is. Sometimes they use it for jokes, other times its played for sympathy.

>>569931197
Thats too simplistic. Whoever is making it so its different across regions is doing it on purpose. AI itself wouldn't rectify this issue.
>>569931653
Amy and Sonic wasnt this either though.
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>>569931995
>Amy and Sonic wasnt this either though.
It quite literally is, just in reverse.
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>>569931923
>because he considers her immature and annoying
No, Sonic doesnt wanna be in one in general. Go push your agenda somewhere else.
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>>569928687
Her shilling should've been happening for the past 25 goddamn years
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Think of 10 romances in anime
how many of them are taken seriously
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>>569927048
>I can at least respect SEGA's honesty a little.
Same, I prefer it being disclosed. SEGA used AI for Shadow Generations promotional images, they didn't disclose it, the few who brought it up were ignored, and no one cared. The AI hate will be gone in a few years and most people will grow to be completely indifferent or in favor of it. Just wait until Nintendo is admitting to using it openly, then all the Nintendo fans will defend it. Just like they did with DLCs, smartphone games, paid online, game key cards, etc.
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>>569932089
It isn't. Pepe was a womanizer that gets romantic with a cat mistaking her for a skunk. The joke is that Pepe is only interested because he thinks she is a female skunk when she isn't.
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>>569931882
I think rape is funny when a clown is raping another clown
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>>569927120
Archiefags still exist?
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>>569932323
>It isn't. Amy was a love-hungry girl that gets romantic with a boy mistaking her for someone interested in a relationship. The joke is that Amy is only interested because she thinks he is a datable male when she isn't.
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Shippers ruin fiction by reducing characters to relationship components.
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>>569932320
Once Nintendo or Rockstar say they're using it that wall is going to crumble
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>>569932160
It's both. The whole point of Amy's character is that she's immature and annoying. Sonic not being interested in romantic relationships is on top of that. You can see this in the games with how Sonic never runs away from Elise when she tries to get romantic, he gets a little uncomfortable, but since she's mature and understands she can't have Sonic all for herself Sonic doesn't try to get away like he does with Amy. Amy is an annoying little girl with an immature sense of what love is

>>569932504
True
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>>569929127
she got a jumpball
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>>569932504
There is zero doubt in my mind that Rockstar already is.
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>>569931916
But I will admit you are right, the game industry and mass media will become largely AI. Consumers don’t really give a fuck. The success of resident evil 4 remastered and resident evil 9 despite them using AI and entire asset packs proves it. But I will simply not buy it. I respect myself too much to stoop to that level: I am not desperate to be entertained, and I can replace games with more engaging personal hobbies since gaming isn’t what it used to be anyways.

But I think the woke leftists and the Ted kazynski type right wingers will benefit from being anti-ai more than people think: they’ll be the only ones in control of their cultural narrative, while everyone else who doesn’t use local models (let’s be real: only tech enthusiasts know how to curate a high quality local model near the level of OpenAI’s tools) will be culturally enslaved to whatever is baked into the AI’s code of conduct. It’s bad to have your art and cultural canon at the mercy of others approval (even if this has largely been fucked up BEFORE ai has entered the picture)
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>>569932462
You certainly tried, lol.
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Do you want Sonic or a character interested in relationships?
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Fuck off from my comfort characters having sex while I dont
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>>569932621
Oh, 100% given how much of a shithole it is to work there apparently. All it really takes is that Steam page to go up or a post-launch announcement and things will shift hard given that GTA VI is guaranteed to make a fuckillion sales.
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>>569931923
>immature and annoying
That's what sonic is to everyone else
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>>569932632
Anon, how fucking delusional are you, exactly? It has literally always been this way. It's a punchline. Amy is Pepe le Pew and Sonic is Penelope Pussycat.
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>>569932320
Yeah, Nintendtones are sheeple. I remember before paid online, everyone always talked up how pro-consumer Nintendo was for not doing it, myself included. Then once it was announced every nintendofag was like "its about time, its for the servers. Are you poor lol?".

Its ridiculous what Nintendo can get away with with these people.
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>>569932368
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>>569932319
Ruroni Kenshin. (Yes, I know the author is filthy pedo but still)
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>>569931675
>The real problem is that AAA budgets are massively inflated for a level of polish that's rarely noticed and for stupid shit
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>>569932856
are you telling me pedophiles are the only manga writers who treat romance with weight
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>>569932623
>only tech enthusiasts know how to curate a high quality local model near the level of OpenAI’s tools
Don't you need powerful hardware in order to be able to do that in the first place? I've looked into it at some points and it didn't seem very accessible. And with hardware prices going up precisely because of companies making everyone rely on their AI servers, it's becoming even less accessible. I even heard some hardware manufacturers are considering only selling to companies instead of regular consumers going forward
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>>569932586
Sonic bailed on Elise when the story was done, like he does with every one-off character he meets
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>>569932586
Ian...
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>>569932831
He’s been baiting all day. He’s addicted to (You)s.
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>>569932994
I think anything from the last few years can run a local model, as long as you have reasonable expectations for what you can do with it.
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>>569932973
No but even though he's a pedo, the Ruroni Kenshin manga still has romance that is treated with weight
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>>569929654
>No one is important except Sonic by default and Shadow.
that's why this franchise is a joke
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>>569932831
Its not the same outside of seeing 1 character romantically interested in a character that isn't interested.

According to Sonic Team, the idea was to give the traits of Madonna to Amy, who was designed as a groupie gf for Sonic.

The joke with Pepe is that Penelope has a white stripe on her that makes her look like a skunk.
The reason Penelope is averse to Pepe is because he is a skunk and smells bad lol.

One of the gags with Pepe was one time when he put on perfume, he smelled great and she chased him and he started running away from her.


The actual jist of Sonic and Amy's dynamic is that Amy wants to impress Sonic to get him to reciprocate because she likes his lifestyle.
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Slopnic
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I ship sonamy because they're both annoying retards who should be shot
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>>569932831
Anon, the joke of Pepe is that he is a skunk and smells.
Penelope hets a white stripe and he thinks she is a skunk. She tries to get away from him because Skunks smell bad.
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>>569932848
Yeah same

>its for the servers
Which isn't even true lol

>>569933006
Yes, at the end of the story, not during it. Sonic only runs away from Amy when she tries to get romantic, because she overwhelms him. Elise doesn't behave like that and even acknowledges that she understands he's going to leave. Amy would never do that. She would try to get close to him, then she would start waving her arms in the air with an angry expression and shout about how she NEEDS Sonic to MARRY her NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sonic doesn't want to deal with that, so he runs away

>>569933152
I guess idk what the reasonable expectations would be then since I only have experience with the online ones. Firefox recently implemented a local translation tool, and I find it much worse than Deepl
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>>569930904
There’s some timeline where they combined sonic’s concept human gf with amy and she ended up being another bimbo like lola bunny, berri and tawna
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Why does Hedgehog Engine 1 look better than Hedgehog Engine 2? Take a look at the graphical differences between Unleashed and Frontiers. The former looks better than the latter and it's 18-year time gap between those 2 games
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>>569928616
I for one can't WAIT until Switch 2 hacking becomes widely available and all the soft "suspicions" become hard "evidence."
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>>569932586
>The whole point of Amy's character is that she's immature and annoying.
No they point of her character is that she is cheerful and energetic.
Edgy whiteboys just hated cute pink girly characters for some reason and called them annoying.
Sonic being annoyed =/= the character themselves being annoying intrinsically.
This is like the people that thibk Tails is supposed to be annoying or Knuckles is supposed to be a retard.
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>>569933224
>The actual jist of Sonic and Amy's dynamic is that Amy wants to impress Sonic to get him to reciprocate because she likes his lifestyle.
That's not incorrect, but it also completely disregards very obvious visual gags we've been shown since her very first game. It's a layered dynamic. Sonic doesn't hate Amy but she comes on way too strong for something he's not interested in and that comes out as a visual gag.
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>>569933450
>Yes, at the end of the story, not during it. Sonic only runs away from Amy when she tries to get romantic, because she overwhelms him. Elise doesn't behave like that and even acknowledges that she understands he's going to leave. Amy would never do that. She would try to get close to him, then she would start waving her arms in the air with an angry expression and shout about how she NEEDS Sonic to MARRY her NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sonic doesn't want to deal with that, so he runs away
The joke is at Sonic's expense
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I hate Sonamy
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>>569933487
>lock-on
>rock-on
raughing out roud
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>>569933654
>Sonurge
Just Shadamy for male yumes
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>>569933460
>Berri
Too bad she died. She was HAWT.
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>>569933491
Sonic Team still had talent
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>>569933460
They did and thats how we got modern Amy.
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>>569925738
rush dialogue is a bit better in japanese where cream says that amy can go too far and lose sense of her surroundings instead of making fun of her love for sonic. the joke is that cream is too naive and honest.

i also think cream worked better for blaze because of her more slightly reserved, polite and innocent nature, blaze might've found amy too much at first although she also contributes to blaze's devolopment in rush.
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>>569933578
Whatever makes edgy whiteboy cocksuckers mad is the correct choice
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>>569933491
HE1 was too much for the time. HE2 was made specifically to be more efficient.
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>>569932323
>>569933224
>>569933378
Are you guys even paying attention to what you're arguing about anymore? The original post about Pepe was about romance being used as a joke. What does the stripe and mistaken identity have to do with anything?
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>>569933491 (me)
*14-year time gap. Frontiers was released in 2022
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>>569933584
Yes but reducing it to those few instances is a disingenuous representation of the point of the character herself as well as rhat dynamic.

It'd be like me saying the point of Knuckles character is to get tricked by Eggman.
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>>569932368
heh heh Soul Eater
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>>569933862
>This is Amy. She's a really energetic girl who loves Sonic. But she can be a bit shortsighted in that regard.
The line seems like it was translated correctly, just a bit too literally, but it makes more sense with that extra context.
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>>569933584
>shit anime
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>>569933450
>waving her arms in the air with an angry expression and shout about how she NEEDS Sonic to MARRY her NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amy has never done this
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>>569933947
But Unleashed has white lighting that shines on the character models, which makes them look smooth and unblemished. Frontiers' models look rough and crusty and don't have the same white lighting and shine
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>>569934097
Honestly, I don't really care. The initial claim is that romance can't be used as a punchline >>569931031 when the reality is that it always has been in this dynamic. Is that ALL it is? No, and I've said as much. But you can't sit here and act like it still isn't being used as a joke. It is.
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can we stop pretending sonic x is in character please
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>>569933654
You're a retard who wants to shill a shit comic
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>>569933862
I agree and ultimately like Amy in Rush and do think Cream being the opener for Blaze makes sense, especially since Blaze gets that moment where she has to rescue her after she gets kidnapped, which is a harder sell with Amy imo.

Dont take my post too seriously. Its just something I observed overall that kinda bothers me.

For example, I feel like Advance 2 would make way more sense as the fame Amy and Cream meet and have Amy help save Vanilla in her story. But instead they scrapped her from.the plot altogether.
Amy isnt even on the box.

If I had to be charitable, I would say this was to prevent girls from choosing Amy instead of Cream. But idk. Still not a good look.

I dunno why Nishiyama has Amy chases Sonic with a hammer in the end credit for no reason though.
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Luckily, Sega don't need to use AI with Sonic games because they can just keep using the same models for all eternity.
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>>569934460
The joke is Sonic is a bitch
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/OmBxsiEFUJI
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>>569934782
Sonic and Amy. Individually, not as a couple. I mean crybaby Sonic and mother hen Amy.
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>>569934007
Yes but the joke isnt the romance. The joke with Pepe is that he smells and mistakes a car for a female skunk.
Presumably, if Penelope was a skunk, it wouldn't be an issue.


The people that made hoopla about him have no media literacy. Pepe was done dirty.
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>>569933654
Sonurge feels so right bros...
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>>569934650
>If I had to be charitable, I would say this was to prevent girls from choosing Amy instead of Cream. But idk. Still not a good look.
If Amy's moveset isn't as shit as it was before, why not make her available?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0CZV9EZJ70

this but sonic and surge
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>>569934782
Sonic the Hedgehog as a franchise
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>>569928897
Ian is too pathetic to quit. He'll just work with the AI and shrug his shoulders.
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>>569934861
Oh right.
Yeah there really was no excuse. He just threw Amy under to shill the character.
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>>569935117
>I want you more than any blue sky
Sonic would NEVER say this to ANYONE
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I wish they would replace Red Star Rings with hidden Chao from now on
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Bun!
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sonic characters for this feel? https://files.catbox.moe/k68xaq.mp4
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>>569934473
Random...
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>>569935627
That's too obvious of which pair you want to hear
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>>569935346
And then threw THAT character under to shill a NEW one
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>>569934730
I think they struggled with the idea of Sonic running from Amy and tried to push the idea he is specifically just afraid of her hammer to make it easier to accept?
I think X did this as well.
Or maybe it was just an Xism in general.
The gag is lost on a lot of people though because people still dont get that her hammer is a toy.
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>>569935513
I hate red rings as much as I hate (rainbow) dash rings
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>>569935792
I wouldn't say he threw her under here.
Again, i think he wanted his OC to be besties with his new OC.
I also suspect he didnt like Amy and Cream being a duo? I dunno.
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>>569933578
I don't think Amy is annoying myself. But she was designed to be seen as annoying and immature. That's why Sonic finds her annoying. And you're right that she was also designed to be cheerful and energetic, but that's exactly the point. The sad reality is that historically those characteristics were considered childish and disruptive, especially for a girl. They were seen as bad behaviors that need to be corrected for girls to grow into proper ladies who respect their role in society and know how to behave and what is and isn't appropriate for a woman to do. This is the reason the Sonic CD manual calls her a "tomboy". Nowadays it means wearing male clothes and liking sports or video games, but until like the 90s it meant being active and loud, which for women was associated with little girls. This is the real "shojo dynamic" and you can see it if you watch some magical girl anime from the 80s before the genre changed to attempt to reshape those characteristics into being seen as positives instead of flaws to be eliminated. What was presented to little girls as the ultimate fantasy they should aim for was to become quiet ladies who just do what they're told. I think that dynamic sucks. I guess girls didn't like being told that they're bad for wanting to have fun and play, because I'm pretty sure later magical girl shows don't do that anymore. Amy was based off 80s anime magical girls who get rejected by their crushes because they're too immature, and it unfortunately ends up making Amy's character appear bad. I believe it's best to represent those traits positively when it comes to Amy as well, but this wasn't considered when her character was created. Regardless though, Amy is fine with just chasing Sonic, so it's not that big of a deal if Sonic is uncomfortable when she tries to get intimate with him
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>>569935820
>her hammer is a toy.
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>>569935889
Why does he have so much ass
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>>569936002
Give it back!
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>>569933491
For tiers is open world and unleashed isn't. You pay a price for such a big map
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Cumslut
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>>569935889
<3

>>569936074
His cute butt is an important focus of his design because that where his tails start
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>>569935963
Sonic deserves someone annoying and immature because that's what he is
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>>569934650
>I dunno why Nishiyama has Amy chases Sonic with a hammer in the end credit for no reason though.
It's to show a return to normalcy, Sonic returning to his people and Blaze to hers, and that love is mundane.
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>>569936101
Take it, bitch
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>>569936074
When you give a character design more mass in the lower body you make it look softer and friendlier. If you give it more on the upper body it looks bolder and more dangerous. Tails is meant to look cute so he was given a pear shape. Funny because I'm eating a pear right now
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>>569935889
>make the sickest art style ever
>use it in a game popular enough to warrant two sequels
>don't use it in either of its sequels
>or any of the dozens of games in the franchise since
Why?
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>>569935627
this is an engineered sonurge post
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>>569936170
Well idk about that, he's meant to be seen as mature and wise in the games. Also I don't think it addresses anything I said

>>569936348
I was planning on eating a pear soon
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>>569936152
c:

>>569936389
It wasn't used in the other Riders games because those used 3D renders instead of 2D ones

And they just wanted to keep the Riders series distinct from the main series so they have their own artstyle
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>>569912101
They wanted their one to be the real one
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Does anyone else hate how Surge was given all this build up and then her first second and third and tenth battles with Sonic are all just him playing with her while she fights for her life
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>>569935963
>But she was designed to be seen as annoying and immature.
I don't see it.

>That's why Sonic finds her annoying.
Sonic finding her annoying is played up in English dubs. In Japanese, the intention is for you to see him as put off by how over the top she is rather than straight up a nuisance.
His annoyance in SA1 for example isn't because he finds her annoying in general, but because he is busy trying to find Tails and now he has an escort mission to deal with.


>And you're right that she was also designed to be cheerful and energetic, but that's exactly the point. The sad reality is that historically those characteristics were considered childish and disruptive, especially for a girl.
In the west maybe. And by edgy white boys specifically.
By girls and in japan it was seen as cute and endearing.

Its not the late 90s anymore. We can admit people were just unfair to her because of the times.

>>569935963
>They were seen as bad behaviors that need to be corrected for girls to grow into proper ladies who respect their role in society
Anon, Sonic is a series about characters that are treated as good for bucking conventional societal expectations.
Sonic is a rebel. Amy is a female rebel.
Amy doing those things is treated positively, not as something to be corrected.
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Isn't it great to be alive? :D
But how would you know?
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>>569936002
Yes? How do you think she launches herself in the air with it by hitting the ground? That's literally the point.
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>>569936758
I think, and so I am.
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Boyo
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>>569936389
Using 3D renders was considered more technologically impressive and junk. It was just how it was back then.
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>>569936758
No I’m trans
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>>569936696
>Its not the late 90s anymore. We can admit people were just unfair to her because of the times.
I wasn't disagreeing with this. I think people in the 2000s overexaggerated her characterization and hated her unfairly

>In the west maybe.
Everywhere

>And by edgy white boys specifically.
By adults looking to discipline children

>>569936973
Yeah!
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>>569936968
>Kaeru-ku~~~n!
Even in Japanese he says "Froggy" lol
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>>569935627
Sonic and Surge
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>>569937107
^-^
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Rougher than the rest of them!
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>>569937107
>Everywhere
>By adults looking to discipline children
All research ive done on the matter says otherwise. I think youre projecting the values of your environment a bit.
The devs stated they made Amy that way specifically because it was to their taste.
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>>569937291
Cute cute!
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Would your favorite character still be your favorite if it was a dog?
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>>569936150
I just realized she has no hip bones and no waist
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>>569937585
Mobian dog?
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>>569937585
Tails has some puppy mannerisms but the fact that he's a fox is important for his kitsune motif so no
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>>569937659
All that’s missing is Head and Shoulders.
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>>569936968
What am I looking at
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>>569937898
Looks like he's croaking in the back of his jacket.
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>>569937381
What research have you done? I'm basing this off my knowledge of anime and how people behaved and thought in the past
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Sonic characters for... uhhh... some feel that uhhh... you know... eating pizza...?
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>>569937585
I don't like dogs that much. I prefer cats.
If Amy was a cat, I would still like her but I still prefer her being a hedgehog.
Her quill Bob is cute.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_HxRbofS9E
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>>569936968
I like this artstyle
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>>569937978
Ive asked eastern fans and looked at trends in anime at the time.
>80s
...why not the 00s?
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>569938257
See my post from earlier >>569935963
I'm ready to be corrected by anyone who's more familiar with magical girl anime and how femininity is viewed around the world in general, but my general impression is that before the 90s and 2000s girls were discouraged and shamed from having certain behaviors. By the 2000s that was no longer the case, but Amy was based off tropes that were still popular in the early 90s
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>>569937585
Yes
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Tails!
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>>569937585
Probably, Tails being a fox isn't one of the main reasons I like him, if anything it's him that gives me more appreciation for foxes. That said, I don't know if he would still be this cute if he was based off a dog, but I guess foxes are close enough to dogs already so maybe it wouldn't matter. I also don't know if they would have had the two tails idea, and that is actually a major reason why I like him. So, in conclusion, idk
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>>569937585
Most of my favourites ARE dogs, or close enough lol.
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>>569937585
My dawg is already a dog.
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>>569938568
They were and still are. But media portrayals presenting characters doing the opposite and treating it as a good thing was already comon by that time.
Most magical girls am shojou, if the lead wasnt one, at least had 1 token character that was.

I dont know where youre getting the idea to the contrary at all.
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Shadow I'm on my period.
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>>569937585
I would love them harder.
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Vulpines are canines so it's technically correct to call foxes dogs, just not domesticated dogs.
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>>569937585
If I was a white girl, I’d be all OVER that dong.
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>>569939627
>White girls
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Why the fuck are Blazefags powerfagging on reddit of all places?
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>>569939847
>traced slop
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>>569937585
Shadow might aswell already be a dog.
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>>569939847
>Fucking kino
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>>569939962
Where else are they supposed to?
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>>569939847
>you're thinking about bending me over and fucking me doggy style raw over this table, aren't you?!
>...
>
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>>569939847
This shit looks so fucking ugly. Why do they look like that?
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>>569939962
Blaze is very powerful
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>>569939382
Yet I don't see recent media portraying it like that, be it from Japan or the west, whereas it's the unquestioned norm when I watch something from before the 90s

>>569939567
Then I guess the question is pointless and he already is lol
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>>569937585
Mine turned into one during Unleashed so...
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>>569939847
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>>569940351
The singular Light Gaia fan...
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>>569940264
FWA traced some bimbo porn actresses.
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I only jerk off to core 4.
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>>569940268
I want that 3'1 cat to break my pelvis doing things unbecoming of a princess.
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>>569940614
how did worm grow up around parents who don't even like each other?
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https://youtu.be/RY6EG8J-JCM
Sonic CD2 like this when?
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>>569940445
Wasn't Chip always a dog (at least according to souvenir bought from not-Thailand)?
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Teirusu

>>569940445
I think he meant Sonic
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>>569941290
Werehog
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>>569937585
>Blaze
Eh probably not. I really like cats and don't like dogs very much.
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Let's talk about Knuckles! What do you thibk about his gameplay history? Personally, I think he only ever worked well in Treasure Hunting.
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>>569942090
Knuckles is red
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>>569942090
I want to have sex with him.
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>Blazefags powerfagging in reddit
>Between Blaze & Amy, who do you think is stronger (just physically) & would win a 1v1 or a boxing match?

Actually a kinda hard question. Amy is probably physically stronger than Blaze. Blaze has higher agility but much of her fighting power is from her pyrokinesis while Amy is all natural.
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Why do they call him "Mighty" anyways?
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>>569942090
It should be almost time for them to give him a new hoe.
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Okay all the conversations are over, it's time to eat my pear

>>569942515
Because he's strong I think
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>>569942428
Did the Blazefag really take that combo from the other day to reddit? How insecure are Blazefags.
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>>569942428
Remember that Amy has wind-lite skill too. She can blow out regular Blaze's flames, maybe.
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>>569942428
the winner is whoever makes the most money in merchandise
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>>569942596
Ariem mogs Rouge so hard it's unfair.
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>>569942428
Amy also practices on a punching bag. I'm going to go with her.
God her fucking workout clothes holy shit
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>>569942090
I agree. Gliding and wall climbing suck for typical gameplay. It's better than Tails but not by much. I like his air headbutt and wall spindash though.
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>>569942515
They were going to rename him to Nat, or possibly Nut(s). I'll let you judge if that's better.
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>>569942663
schizo
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>>569942428
Boxing match? Amy.
1v1 fight in general physically? Closer but I would say probably still Amy.
Blaze is reliant on Pyrokinesis a lot more than Amy is reliant on any of her own bag of tricks. Amy has hands and her feats with her hammer are physical feats.

Blaze is reliant on speculation and vague parallelism with Sonic that isn't really rooted in any feats or statements.

Blaze's speed is via her pyrokenisis whereas Amy got fast from chasing Sonic as well.
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>>569942515
For the longest time I thought it was a reference to a sports team.
Could sweat there was a "Mighty Armadillos" somewhere.
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>>569943025
They have too many characters that start with an N by that point. (Nack and Knuckles).
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>>569942428
>>569942862
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Big the Cat
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No way do Amyfags think Amy can even TOUCH Blaze. This is lika a Tailsfag thinking Tails can take on Shadow.
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Amy should adopt a kid and get over it
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>>569944045
A lot of people assume the characters with kinetic powers are chumps without them even though that's never been implied.
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Nobody cares about Mighty.
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>>569944112
Emerl
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>>569944242
Shadow...
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sthg should adopt a kid
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>>569944242
I do
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>>569944242
I care about Mighty

>>569944248
Died and became Gemerl
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>>569910492
>Twitter
Anon, what did you expect
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Sonic games are fun
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>>569944045
Movie Amy could
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>>569944045
Tails absolutely could take on Shadow, because Tails' core abilities is being Sonic+, while Shadow is just Sonic period.

Tails is the kid sidekick to Sonic, and Shadow IS Sonic but dark. Shadow is the ultimate benchmark for Tails. If Tails can't take on Shadow, Tails is not TAILS.
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Gemerl implies the existence of Sloperl.
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>>569942862
Whats wrong with it?
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>>569944579
>>569944579
>>569944579
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Bake
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>>569944565
Kek
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>>569944548
>Tails absolutely could take on Shadow
Kek. Good one.
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>>569944615
There's nothing wrong with it. I like it. I like it more than I should.
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>>569944045
Blaze isn't a chump without her powers but they carry her a lot. I have no reason to believe she is significantly stronger than Amy even without them.

>>569944216
With Silver we literally SEE it in 06, his debut game.
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>>569944687
He's taken on a Shadow with weakened chaos powers. So long as Shadow doesn't have his hands on an emerald, Tails wins.
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Tailsfags being delulu
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>>569944987
Still no dice because base Shadow is equal to base Sonic.
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>>569945190
The Sonic vs Shadow track record is heavily skewed in Sonic's favor to the point they're really not, at least not emeraldless. Equal technique=/=equal skill.



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