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Historic edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>569826565

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Skitarii Alpha Primus is coming to Warhammer 40,000: Darktide!
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Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Notes
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Kuli's guides for beginners:
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Vermintide 2:
Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes
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>Also Exist:
Space Marines 2
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday
The Outlast Trials
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Back4Blood
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
John Carpenter's Toxic Commando
Far Far West:
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:

Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
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Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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Skitussy
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POST OGRYN FASHION THAT DOESN'T LOOK COMPLETELY EMBARASSING
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>>569964493
god I love women
the female form is simply beautiful. This artist knows exactly how to draw a cute girl
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>>569964609
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>>569964578
not possible
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>569964609
Those are femboy skitts
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>>569964493
That's a very attractive and cute pair of female women right there
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>draw cute girls
>call them "femboys"
Yeah right lol nice try
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>>569964578
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>>569965351
You're a big guy
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>>569965418
I know.
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>>569964920
Nah those are female, just look at em
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>>569964609
>>569965147
>>569965172
>>569965812
gayest shit I ever read
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>>569966568
>these girls are cute and i want to suck their dicks
>wtf that's gay!
What is wrong with you?
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>>569964875
every time
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>>569965418
for emprah
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>>569967019
ywnbaw
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>>569967617
Ok so what?
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>>569967724
It means youre mentally ill
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need spears and halberds and glaives and partisans and guisarmes and billhooks and lances and pikes

WHERE ARE THE POLEARMS
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>>569967904
another maul? I got you senpai
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>>569967791
You will never be a woman either so you're mentally ill too
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>>569967993
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>>569968013
Im not trying to claim theres something wrong with someone for not fantasizing about sucking tranny cock
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>>569968132
Me neither. You say you're not mentally ill and yet you seem to have a poor grasp on reality.
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>>569968263
>Me neither.
See: >>569967019
And now this is the part where you try to pretend thats not you. In which case I will preemptively accept your concession.
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what's going here? the same two retards arguing again over petty things?
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>>569968475
Just a troon struggling with the fact he will forever be male.
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>>569968356
Ah so you're just bad at reading comprehension.

I was asking what was wrong with you because of your negative response to people liking those cute girls. I'm perfectly fine with you being a homosexual and have no comments about that.
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>>569968498
Don't talk to me, retard.
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>>569968550
>Ah so you're just bad at reading comprehension.
And theres the backpedaling
>I'm perfectly fine with you being a homosexual and have no comments about that.
And theres the deflection.
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>>569968580
Hey, be nice to him. He might be a gay retard, but he should still be treated with respect.
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>>569968632
I'm clarifying. What else am i supposed to do when someone who's a bit slow and bad at reading misunderstands my posts?
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>>569968647
Sounds like you're mad you lost.
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>>569968729
What did i lose?
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There's niggas in this game dying on uprising bro..
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Level THIRTY niggas
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>mortis trials?
>dead
>havoc?
>dead
>expeditions?
>dead
>OMG NEW PAYWALLED CLASS TO RUN AURIC ON WAOW GET EXCITED
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>>569969152
There are irl niggas dying in the motherfucking streets, dawg
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>>569969152
shieeet
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>shitposter-kun getting told and raped yet again
Love to see it
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>>569969152
I get that expeditions are a mite harder than base difficulty but people there regularly dying on malice is absolutely extraordinary
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>>569969587
Whom are you quoting?
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>>569964493
WOO-WEE!
I wouldn't mind plopping those cute girls' weiners in my mouth!
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>>569970134
me when I hear the local Hooters put hotdogs on the menu
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>>569970310
Hooters is dying a slow death. Good riddance. Lame ass boomer-slop.
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Welcome to MechDonald's, can i take your order?

Uhhh can i get the MechDouble combo with extra skitty sauce please?
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>>569970636
Gayer than that crossdressing post
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WHY IS MY ROBOT A SCHIZO
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fatshark fears the ogryn
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>>569969723
You, my bitch
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>>569971998
No? I don't say weird and cringy stuff like that.
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>>569972163
Clearly you do
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>>569972374
Now you're just saying random lies because you want to argue about nothing for no reason.
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>>569971998
>>569972163
>>569972374
>>569972494
Shut the fuck up, please shut the fuck up
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>>569972935
Okay, but I can't promise that the other guy will shut up. He seems very upset and unwell.
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>>569971998
>>569972163
>>569972374
>>569972494
Keep talking, please keep talking
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>>569973003
He says with a straight face whilst still running his mouth
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>>569973661
is that cain and jurgen? good edit
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>>569973938
Yessum
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>>569964578
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>>569939416
>Arbites feels weak offensively
That's mostly the lower levels where you get literally no damage nodes and all of your damage is your overpowered shotgun that hits like a bolter for some reason. All of the melee damage nodes are at the bottom of the tree for some reason.
The class stops being weak offensively once you start using a good weapon with good blessings, learn its attack string and use it correctly, and take picrel as the most efficient damage build. You can get even more extreme damage out of fully maxed BTL + Forceful AV.
Also the shotgun becomes retardedly OP in auric when you put some cleave on it. This only falls off in havoc where priorities shift away from killing hordes with ammo (other classes do this better).
>8 hours ago
I dont give a fuck
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>>569975526
how get more cleave on me gun
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>>569969152
>>569969253
>>569969265
Kek
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>>569975897
Right side node in Forceful stacks with itself, as long as you repeatedly bounce between 9-10 stacks. This can be achieved by having a boatload of individual sources of stagger, and includes the dog, and the shotgun's zap special, so if you're actively under fire but have enemies electrocuted, your buff bar fills with stacks of +infinite cleave and fuckloads of attack speed. Usually you'll be at 1-2 stacks.
Otherwise, all sources of strength work (Full Bore on the shotgun is indeed a horde clearing blessing, just hit all pellets by aiming at one guy's chest, the buff persists), this includes Arbites Vigilant. Technically, the +25% cleave before Castigator's Stance also counts, but I'd rather take the impact even when going Nuncio.

Mind you that the push cleave blessing in the bottom right only works on melee, fatshark just can't write descriptions.

>TL;DR
Just take Forceful's right side node, Full Bore on the shotgun, and bring your dog. It'll work.
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does thunderous + skullcrusher work on ogryn? i feel like i dont do that much damage so i thought id debuff everything
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>>569976548
Yes. The mk3 bully club is best for that job. You need impact focused talents
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Do you think the arc maul will be the skit's starting weapon? I want it to be the tranny blades but I doubt they would
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>>569977393
It might also be the single tranny blade
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>>569977473
Isn't that going to be a power sword? I assumed that'll be their last melee weapon unlock.
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>>569976220
Ty anon I actually already had that on, just didn't even think about it also affecting the gun. I'm pretty skeptical about this full bore, we're both talking about the mk3 right? What other blessing do you put on it? I'll give it a try at least.
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>>569977495
I wouldn't come to that conclusion based off the file names. I think the arc maul was called a power maul or something
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>>569977690
Fair enough, if it's just a mundane sword then it'll probably be our first melee. Honestly, tranny blades might be the final melee unlock just because they're something unique.
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>>569977643
>I'm pretty skeptical about this full bore
You can easily prime it and then benefit from the strength while cleaving through hordes. It also doubles as your boss killer, because unyielding + Full Bore aimed weakpoint shots deal fucking massive amounts of damage to monsters. No, it's not bolter rape, but it's actually very good damage, and a viable primary boss killer in havoc actually. I highly recommend the unyielding build on the shotgun when you're using the shield maul, which has pretty poor unyielding damage. The shotgun 1-2-taps bulwarks and reapers with a headshot depending on your current buffs.
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Tried out stealth zealot for the first time and almost one shot a daemon today
I was expecting to do like half his bar not all of it
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I can't for the life of me like playing Weap Specialist or its Pig equivalent...
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>>569977807
Do you just send the dog after snipers then, I'm guessing?
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>>569977968
Dude I fucking love weapon specialist so much, it's perfect for giving you the right buffs when you need them most, and the reload perk is fun to play around.
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>it's an arbitrator with that 2h shotgun is eating up all the ammo episode
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>>569978095
the crit on one bullet annoys me
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>>569978102
The Lex says it's my turn with the ammo
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>>569977843
>almost
Pathetic
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>>569978016
Yeah, shotgun isn't great against snipers (it's good enough to get them in a couple shots, but it takes too long) so you use the dog for that. Don't even bother shooting them in havoc.
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>>569978102
I had one doing this lately and barely making any kills apart from poxxies to boot. I've never wanted "friendly" fire so badly before.
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>>569978180
Why? If you're in melee and need to snap off a fast shot, that's probably when you most need it to for sure kill your target. Have you tried it with the plasma gun or the revolver with ADS? It's great on both of them

>>569978251
Hmm I am enjoying lone wolf too much, I will just hit them with grenades from downtown.
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>>569978306
I'd recommend the accurate mark with rending shells, then. It's worse for horde clear, but with LW your melee is stronger and grenades obliterate most enemies. The accuracy makes it a lot better for sniping, including taking out gunners.
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>>569978359
Oh yeah for sure, if I was being serious I'd probably just use the shot-pistol and shield, because I love dropping my nuts on snipers with that. This is just for funsies really, exploding hordes with the shotty while I do my melkchores in preparation for the skitty
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>>569978095
It's such a fun rhythm too. Hack away to max out the shooting bonus, quick switch to pistol in some poor bastard's face to refresh the melee bonus, off we go again. Almost soothingly unga bunga compared to my usual strait-laced 'Target Marked' NCO.
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>>569978102
if an arby does that, you can sit back and relax
same for grenade gauntlet ogryn
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>>569978193
How do I do even more?
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>>569978460
yep and it works really well with that uh.. the one talent that gives you stacking toughness dr on ranged headshots
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>>569969265
Uhhh based????
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>>569976220
I would advice against taking forceful for a shotgun build, especially if you go for stance build.
EO wallhacks are super fucking strong, and cd reduction is very handy for stance. And stance with arbites shotgun is robocop kino.
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>>569964117
So we're not even pretending this thread isn't just warhammer general anymore?
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>>569977643
>I'm pretty skeptical about this full bore
As you should be, take scattershot and sustained fire
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i like veteran's piss marker capstone
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>>569979093
you would
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>>569977807
do you have a full build? I don't know if I should take any dog augment and node
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>>569978929
EO wallhacks are strong, but clearing an entire hallway (including any elites sans carapace and bulwarks) in 3 shots has it beat.
Also stance is unfortunately terrible and only really okay for shotgun meme builds doing that robocop cosplay in auric.
>>569979598
VMA and Canine Morale are the only important dog skills, everything else is borderline irrelevant. Only Razor-Jaw is kind of okay, but arguably not worth the point.

I use picrel in auric. At the top, No Escape should be "better than" Withering Fire, but WF has 100% uptime against monsters, since you can't always guarantee killing a special/elite every 4s during boss fights. If you don't like it, take No Escape instead.
Reload speed and stun immunity are technically optional, and you can replace them with BTL cooldown or something else. Since this is an auric build, I prefer the stun immunity to let me do objectives unmolested, because my retards will never bother.

I use a completely different build in havoc, and can't really recommend this there.
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>>569979867
thank you dood
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>>569964578
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>>569977843
Outside of maybe very specific Havoc bullshit I don't think there even is something a properly roided up Deamonhost impregnator can't pop in one go.
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>>569980167
Twins can't. As in you can easily deal enough damage but they're just capped.
It even plays the kill sound when you hit them but most of the damage just disappears.
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>>569979867
no arbites vigilant?
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>>569980427
I don't like losing my stun immunity in auric, and my weapons deal enough damage to rape through auric.
I also don't consider AV without fully cooldown maxxed BTL, which is where the actual synergy lies. I don't need maxed BTL in auric either, I'd rather have more points in defensive skills or reload speed. Might as well abuse having nigh infinite ammo in auric.

You can obviously drop some loose nodes and BTLmaxx + AV, but I really do think that's huge overkill for auric.
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>>569981083
so funny they elected to give this to the scum
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>>569979867
>Also stance is unfortunately terrible
Broken record
It doesn't matter how many times you say it, an ability that gives you invulnerability, 20% strength, optional increased damage and ammo refill from reserve with 50% uptime will not stop being good.
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>>569981816
He's right. It's a shitty ability for shitty players.
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>>569981886
Why do you refer to yourself in 3rd person
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>join a h40 lobby with 1 TS in it
>he accepts next 2
>says "dont expect me to carry you"
>one of them has rank of 16
>ask why he accepted a 16 shitter
>"i dont care"
yeah i'll fucking partake in ur attempt to carry some shitter so they can ruin more 40 matches with their unearned rank
what drives these subhumans
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>>569981816
Good job you just said all the things it does.
That doesn't take away from the opportunity cost of giving up 2 abilities that are infinitely better.
Also
>needing invulnerability on the RETARD-tier ubertank class that is already invulnerable
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>>569982045
I don't. Are you retarded?
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>>569981816
>>569982346
You're both right, you know. It's not a weak skill, but it's just outclassed by it's competition and partially wasted because the defense is overkill
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>new dlc soon
>indian poster/casino poster/ copaganganda poster is back to stirr shit in the general

Every 6 months, classic.
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>>569983260
Nice introduction.
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>>569982346
BTL is only good if you have skullcrusher, and 100% of retards that pick it, don't. I'm so fucking tired of these retards slapping around enemies that were neatly grouped up, it's unreal. Yeah sure "you are helping", now I can't hit weakpoints and have to pick them off individually because your retarded ass couldn't just help killing them, great, thank you.
Nuncio is fine but it's the least used and most of the time it is just wasted because nobody stays in one spot fighting for a long time, or bomber neatly shits that area with fire.
I'm mostly speaking from observer point, because I rarely bring nuncio or BTL myself, because I am not a pussy and can use stance offensively, taking aggro and killing gunners and shotgunners before they can hurt my retards. I understand why a kiting niggers or an anchor wouldn't appreciate it.
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"Lynchpin" and "Towering Presence" need to be combined, and replaced with "The Best Defence," which should be folded into "Smash Em'!" in order to clean up some of the initial Ogryn nodes.

"Steady Grip" and "Furious" need to be removed from the first tiers and placed further down into the talent trees.

"That One Didn't Count" and "Bigger Box of Hurt" need to be removed, and made baseline.

Fold the trigger effects of "Pacemaker" into "Keep Shooting," given that they share the same reload multiplier, and additionally do not stack.

"Strongman" folded into "Dominate" and trigger from Elites and Specialists.

"Can't Hit Me... Again" changed to provide 2% ranged damage resistance for 2.5 seconds after being hit by a ranged attack. Can stack up to 20 times.

hop to it fatshark. i want to play ogryn again
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>>569983352
>I am not a pussy and can use stance offensively, taking aggro and killing gunners and shotgunners before they can hurt my retards.
Reality check: I am doing that in havoc 40 on all classes without needing stance. You are just bad at the game and haven't found your slide button, which is the actual reason you think stance is good. Even minor investment in reload speed makes the shotgun rape everything without needing some meme-tier ability to refill your ammo.
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>>569983375
>"Can't Hit Me... Again" changed to provide 2% ranged damage resistance for 2.5 seconds after being hit by a ranged attack. Can stack up to 20 times.
This seems like a downgrade, do the stacks fall off one at a time or all at once?
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>>569983563
sidegrade. worse for melee ogryn mitigating chip damage but better for shooting ogryn tanking it
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>>569983463
You kinda missed the point entirely, I wouldn't waste ammo on shotgunners, and I won't spend more than 1 point on ability in arbites tree for havoc.
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>>569964578
This is a tough one, so I brought my random frens!
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>>569983352
>BTL is only good if you have skullcrusher
BTL is always good just based on the fact that you can spam it every 7 seconds and keep an entire room/chokepoint perma staggered which keeps the entire team safe.
Keeping the entire team safe is better than giving yourself 70% damage reduction that only applies to yourself.

Like not understanding this or figuring it out is concerning.
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janny upsetti for insulting slavnigs
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>>569984223
You are ruining the dps check for everyone by doing less damage and scattering enemies and making it harder for everyone to hit weakpoints, stalling the mission.
Like not understanding this or figuring it out is concerning.
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Idk why you retards are being so reductive about BTL
Its most important use is utterly raping mutants to a dead stop. The ability to instantly delete the most dangerous enemy in the game automatically makes it awesome.
>just le dodge
Maybe the first 3-4 in the nonstop mutant rape train that relevant difficulties throw at you. By the time the 5th comes around there's a non-zero chance you're choked between enemies and unable to dodge.
It also throws enemies around preventatively, allowing you to dodge the mutant.
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i only use/take btl because it has a short cooldown. anything with a cd longer than 30 seconds is dogshit on principle
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>>569984434
>Like not understanding this or figuring it out is concerning.
Ooh that line really triggered you, didn't it?
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The utility of BTL depends on the rest of the team's build, same as any other ability. BTL works well with some teams and not others. A team full of guys running skullcrusher is going to gigarape anything thrown to the ground by BTL, but if you depend on clicking heads for your damage, it's the worst matchup.

I like BTL because you can just charge right through levels and leave enemies in the dust before they can even stand up. More enemies behind you means fewer spawning ahead of you, which makes progress through the level faster and safer, but the team needs to be on the same page for it to work or they'll drop an anchor while you're still moving ahead.
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>>569985224
I like stance because it's the only thing strong enough to keep me alive in auric missions.
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Crusher or shock maul for my uprising BTL build?
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>>569985621
Shock maul because it lets you speed run even faster by raping void shields. I'd recommend chainsword actually, it's better at clearing trash hordes and also rapes void shields and other bosses during whatever penance, event or melk assignment you're farming in uprising.
Bring a shredder pistol for your move speed btw.
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>>569985621
the Arbites exclusive maul is op AF, in general I'd say the normal maul
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It do be like that, Mr. Stancecel.
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>>569983260
It’s very predictable at this point yes
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>>569985732
Arbites maul doesn't have skullcrusher
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>>569986369
relentless strikes
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Is toughness anything more than a game mechanic?
Do we have little shield packs on our belts or something?
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>>569986754
its just a game mechanic certainly. there's no diegetic explanation for it
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>>569986754
It's the Emperor's light or some shit like that. Invoking his name generates toughness and gold toughness, and the Emperor's Fading Light modifier in havoc removes the toughness grace period meaning you get instagib raped.
The player characters are effectively the protagonists of their own story with how much retarded otherwise non-canonical shit we can get away with. We're blessed by the Emperor.
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>>569986754
It's plot armor
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>>569986754
The Emperor Protects
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https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1fb3ce0-b375-4ca4-9718-0fb6f7586add/skullcrusher-meme thoughts? Should I trade some damage reduction for extra ammo?
I haven't touched agni since arbites release, is it better than munitorum? All I remember is that munitorum has better trash clearing loop.
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>>569987147
Does push cleave actually increase the number of targets your maul can hit?
Rebreather is the only questionable choice, a single corruption res curio perk is relatively cheap if you're in it for that. I'd question not taking True Grit even if it only matters once every 10 games.
Probably a good idea to drop Rebreather for Forceful's stun immunity if you intend to do objectives in auric, because your retards won't help you. Fine to drop the stun immunity in havoc ofc.

Build looks very good overall though. How are grenades working out for you without LW?
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skitarii yellow nodes

conquerer imperative
>crit and weak spot damage increased by 10% for all allies in coherency
bulwark imperative
>5% toughness replenishment for all allies in coherency
aggressor imperative
>17.25% reduced enemy hit mass for all allies in coherency
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Pov: I just activated my thunder hammer.. and i am comingf or youuuu!!!
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>>569987510
Better have some source for that
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>>569987147
Personally I do this on my shock maul loadout. I'd take the extra point out of BTL for it.
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>>569987510
>>5% toughness replenishment for all allies in coherency
Literally nothing.
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>>569987510
Okay so everyone will be going crit all the time on every build, got it.
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>>569987750
>>569987805
If he means that it's generating 5% toughness every second then that's the best one
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>>569987886
Toughness replenishment is already a stat. It increases all toughness you generate (not just coherency) by that amount. Ogryn's aura has 12% or something.
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>>569987467
I just made this 5 minutes ago, haven't played yet
>>569987718
Yeah that's the default route, I threw in shield shotpistol combo to try something new
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>>569987886
Isn't toughness replenishment the stat that makes you generate more toughness per toughness gain?
So if you get 100 toughness from something +5% would give you 105 toughness.
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>>569987934
there's a diff between REGEN and REPLENISHMENT. It's the main reason why Hank is a fucking inbred sack of shit because he recommends toughness regen, which is just you waiting and praying you don't get shot so it can start ticking back up, meanwhile replenishment is when you trigger some talents like toughness on heavy attacks
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>>569987510
Aggressor seems to be the best one, but I'm not sure if 17.25% is good enough. It's an oddly specific number so it probably hits some breakpoint, but come on, couldn't they just make it 25% or something
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>>569987934
>>569987983
He's obviously making shit up. Ogryns give 20% toughness replenishment from all sources
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>>569988057
No no, toughness regen (coherency toughness regeneration delay reduction & amount gained) is actually a good crutch for new, bad, learning ogryn players, because what you'll struggle with as a new player is random shooter stragglers chipping away at your toughness, and coherency regen is the stat that works well against it. It's great in the lower difficulties.

Also 5% replenishment is so low it might as well not exist.

>>569988161
Oh 20%, right. Makes me wonder why every retard takes a piddly +10% melee damage with unfavorable math instead of the unique +20% survivability that helps everyone.
The proposed effects and their numbers are retarded enough to be believable, he should go work at fatshark.
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>>569988128
better than 10% crit chance AND crit damage? I remind you the other crit keystones are just 5% crit chance.
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>>569988315
He said crit and weakspot damage
Weakspot damage and crit damage
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>>569988315
Read the post again
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>>569988359
>>569988379
Oh you right mb
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>>569988161
It's not like auras have to be equivalent on different classes.
It's actually very believable that fatshark will balance skibidi by giving him retarded weak auras.
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>>569988528
No. I think he's yet another retard who's making shit up
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>ogryn has a scar and milky/blind eye
>one loadout has the cracked vision blocking expedition scouter over the healthy eye instead
Unintentional but made me lol
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I love zealot. I love Shield of Contempt. I love purity aura. I love the huge 10% crit aura. I love powerful auras. I want to aura bot. Give me a DLC character that is just auras cranked up to 11.
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>>569987685
new test build update about an hour ago

>>569987510
freudian slip. that should be "toughness regeneration" and not "toughness replenishment". i was reading an unrelated talent that causes weakspot kills to grant stacking toughness replenishment (5% per, up to 15) for 6 seconds. that one's called zz_Autoclaivic_Edict

arquebus shots and transonic blade heavy attacks can damage bulwarks through their shields. they dont seem to do very much against mutants and maniacs in general however but theyre also unupgraded. the dodge range is genuinely fucking pitiful. it has almost no iframes and barely moves you at all. you do get an extra wound just like ogryn
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>>569988767
>that should be "toughness regeneration"
Regenerating 5% toughness per second for everyone in coherency sounds retardedly strong lmao. Keep in mind that the stat accounts for and regenerates into golden toughness.
It won't be obvious for the first couple weeks while everyone plays skittle, but as soon as you start seeing more normal lineups becoming borderline invulnerable just from the skit existing, people will probably realize.
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My crutch is that 2 wounds just isn't enough
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>>569988767
5% toughness regeneration for everyone is stupid strong and there would be a huge gap between this aura and 10% crit/weakspot damage which is nothing (vet's talent gives 30% weakspot damage and I'm still not sure if it's noticeable)
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>>569990343
I get the +2 wounds on zealot even without playing martyrdom.
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>>569988767
>you do get an extra wound just like ogryn
yay lets make existing classes less unique via dlc classes, kino!
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>>569987510
crit power was fucking worthless in vermintide, hope they readjusted what they mean by that
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>>569987510
>>crit and weak spot damage increased by 10% for all allies in coherency
Isn't this just a 20% damage increase?
Since if it actually is Crit AND Weakspot damage, wouldn't this work like how Duelist used to work on zealot?
Which gave you separate 50% weakspot damage and 50% crit damage? Which counted up to like 100% extra damage on a critical weakspot?
I remember it working something like that.

Though I gotta say
>5% toughness replenishment
Is gonna be just straight up broken. The entire team will just be 100% invulnerable even in havoc 40.
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>>569988767
What are the abilities btw?
What does the servo skull do? Is it the skittle's blitz or is it part of some 2nd skilltree like how Scum has drugs?
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>>569991983
>Isn't this just a 20% damage increase?
No it's not holy shit. Are you some True Survivor or what? It would only be 20% damage increase if you have permanent 100% crit chance and never hit anything but weakspots.
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>>569992381
>>569991983
Isn't it even worse than this? I thought weakspot damage had extremely weird math behind it and is basically worthless.
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>>569992464
Iirc it's the opposite, the crit damage is basically worthless, while the weakspot damage is actually quite decent. But don't quote me on that.
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>>569992381
Can't tell if real or bait
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>>569992567
I remember testing Punishing Salvo (+50% weakspot damage) on the arbitrator shotgun, and it doing about as much as Sustained Fire (+20% damage), which I thought was extremely strange.
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>>569992381
>It would only be 20% damage increase if you have permanent 100% crit chance and never hit anything but weakspots.
Yeah, of course it isn't 20% damage in your hands. Learn to click heads.
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>>569991983
>Isn't this just a 20% damage increase?
Not exactly, as it only applies to the additional damage from a weakspot/crit, not the overall damage. This results in less practical bonus than listed. How much less depends on the finesse multipliers of the weapon used.

For example, take Duellist for Zealot, 50% Finesse damage.
On the Relic Blade, this is a ~25% overall damage increase. While on the Eviscerator it's ~30%, and on the Crusher ~20%,
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Non mtx outfits to make a zealot look like a soldier/vet?
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>>569992464
Increased critical/weakspot damage only applies to the part that goes on top of regular damage, "finesse" part. So if your weapon deals like 300 damage with a regular hit and 400 with weakspot hit, it will only apply to 100. I'm not exactly sure how critical weakspot hits are handled, but it's porbably the same - everything that's above normal damage is considered crit damage or weakspot - whichever applies.
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>>569992851
Speaking of Finesse, could you please point me to the place where I can look finesse/crit values for all the weapons. I swear I searched everywhere except maybe the source code.
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>>569992965
Right, yeah.
By which logic, +10% crit damage and +10% weakspot damage practically don't even translate to +5% overall damage on most weapons, because it's a fraction of a fraction that only triggers 40% of the time or so.
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Why are commissars such assholes anyway
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>>569992965
That sounds really dumb and unintuitive way of doing that calculation.
But I'm not a game dev, so what do I know.
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>>569993161
They are political officers they are trained that way.
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>>569993161
commissar isn't an easy job
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>>569993161
they know chaos is insidious as fuck, they don't take any risk
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>>569993172
Swedes like really dumb and unintuitive math that they can't put into words so every description in the game is misleading
For the longest time Zealot had unlisted 200% toughness replenishment on melee kill (5% toughness on kill) and a talent that would give extra 100% toughness replenishment on melee kill (which normal player would think is another 5% but in reality it was 2.5%)
I don't even know if it was fixed with talent trees rework, I guess it was
There are tons of bullshit like that still hidden everywhere, and also they randomly use words damage/strength in blessings and some talents do not exactly do what they say
Also weakspot damage only applies to additional damage but weakspot strength applies to the entire hit, deal with it
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>>569993026
To find them you will have to check the source code, or manually math it out from the stat sheet/psykanium(in case the stat sheet is lying to you). Possibly dredge through old patch notes for some of them.
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>>569993623
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>>569993831
first time playing a swedish game?
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>>569993994
Helldivers 2 has a wiki that always gets updated and explains all the weapon stats and armor types and breakpoints and such.
Division was dropped once I got to the bulletsponge endgame.
Valheim was dropped like pile of shit that it is.
So is Payday.
DRG (spiritually swedish) has very basic combat so you don't need any of that.
I only have 100 hours in ratclick.
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foreverial cyberized skitarius
forever nuggetified and loving it
his permanently open eyes, seeing the horrors and absolutely loving it
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>>569994686
Don’t
>>569993161
They need to be hardasses to keep their subordinates in line
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>>569987564
>name
>meme
hmmmm….
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>>569986754
Toughness is definitely just game mechanics, but whether or not the fact we can survive stuff like being in contact with Nurgle shit is is kind of up in the air
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>>569994668
Enemies die fast in division
You just have to be hilariously squishy
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>>569986754
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>>569995489
That's twitter schizobro
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>>569996141
>it's the arbitrator's massive balls pulling bullets in like a black hole
>it's the scum's fent addiction that makes them immune to pain
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>>569996141
>ogryn retard meter
Based
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>console icon nigger veterans
>can't dodge, cant manage ammo, falls gorillion times, ACKS AFTER HIP FIRING THE AUTOGUNS SUPER CLOSE RANGE
>uses the SAME EXACT AUTOGUN(agrippina infantry)

do these nonhuman retard niggers have some sort of AI program to play the games? because most of them behave the exact same way
unholyniggershit trying to quickly wrap up the event for resources was hellish
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Does veteran have some sort of -threat option similar to Zealot?
Also how does Zealot turn invisible?
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>>569996493
For arby it'd be their armor and their faith in the LEX
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>>569996756
>Does veteran have some sort of -threat option similar to Zealot?
Infiltrate ability's sub node has -threat. It's something like -90% threat.
>Also how does Zealot turn invisible?
Shroudfield, the right most ability in the skilltree, I think it also had some -threat stat to it.
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>>569997017
yeah it does basically the same thing as infiltrate
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>>569997017
Sorry for Zealot I meant similar to anons toughness question. Is it tech or a power or what
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>>569997178
I'm not sure I understand.
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>>569997408
Is it a harry potter invisibility cloak or just some gameplay bs
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>>569969152
I just saw a psyker pop themselves in Damnation during quiet downtime
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>>569992851
Not exactly, as it only applies to the additional damage from a weakspot/crit, not the overall damage. This results in less practical bonus than listed. How much less depends on the finesse multipliers of the weapon used.
What the fuck why, this is as unnecessarily complicated as
>80/100
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JUST GOT RECOMMENDED FOR A BONE 'EAD IMPLANT LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
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>>569997178
>>569997473
I assume it's some HEAVY game mechanics hand waving, where the characters would in narrative just do stealthy shit like putting on camo makeup and skulking through the shadows and such. Think the things that ask for stealth rolls in an RPG.
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>>569997701
IT'S A TRAP!!!!
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>>569997473
>Is it a harry potter invisibility cloak
Probably gameplay mechanics. However Imperium does have invisibility tech, like cameleoline which can let a person turn invisible or at least make them very hard to spot.
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i thought nobody in the mourningstar had tits because they're all starved jabronis, only rich noblewomen can afford big fucking tits
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>>569997473
Far as I can tell, shroudfield works more or less like the cloaking device in Predator. The subnode "master-crafted shroudfield" implies it's some sort of technological gizmo, and there's other instances of tech like that being used by the Imperium.
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God that fucking revolver reload stinks
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>>569998860
And I guess Infiltrate is supposed to work more like what Arnold does in the same film to avoid detection.
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you guys reload your revovler?
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revolve your reloader
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>>569997017
>>569996756
Being able to cower away has solved every problem I had with Vet
Very cool
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>>569996424
I know Anon
>>569999484
Yes, it’s just being super stealthy which certain people in 40k have mastered to an outright supernatural degree
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>>569996756
Iirc one of the keystones (the headshotting one) had a hidden -100% threat attached to having stacks but that got removed
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Still can't bring myself to like the arby shotgun it's so fucking heavy while 80 crackheads shank you
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>>570005984
>arby
who? talk about skitarii
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>>570006284
are you trying to be funny or you're just feeling lonely
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>>570006284
arquebus is gonna be meta no doubt. i can just feel it in my bones
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>>570006370
will we get to pick our cyber chastity cage?
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>>569990481
I thought that was a dogshit stat that turns off for eternity in combat or when you get hit by anything?
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Remember when tech illiterates tried to claim that HD2 can destroy your hardware
kino
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>shroudfield
>combat knife
>braced autogun
I am the veteran now
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>PBB
>cleaver
>twin stubber
I am the veteran now
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I forgot how fucking op pig was
this is with a psyker and scum on a team lol
this >>569987147 meme build btw, except I dropped concussive for extra ammo because concussive is not needed in aurics
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>Taunt
>Heavy Stubber
>Lucky Bullet
Wow, this is better than veteran! Finally a sniper weapon!
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>>570008684
>>570008570
>>570008043
Unironically more worth to the team than any vet
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>>570008684
this is actually a kino build btw. It's like shout veteran with a vigilant autogun but your weapon is actually good for sniping
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>>570009131
the aimpunch after firing is way too fucking long
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Look at me, I am the Veteran (Flamer) now.
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>>570009785
get surgical + the double damage headshot crit one on the slowest heavy stubber and you wont mind the aimpunch
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>>570009942
>Spending real money for the second worst regimental cosmetics (deluxe) of Darktide
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>going upstairs at the start of Smelter Complex
ISHYGDDT
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When is Mortarion getting in?
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>>570012653
you can't shoot fast enough to deal with specialists, that's the problem
anyone with a bolt pistol would be better
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>>570013632
I don't think he fits inside of a car.
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What kind of balance changes do you guys think are we getting in the update?
I just ask since it's the only thing old classes are getting at all.
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>>570013685
Eh it works fine you just can't miss
the true sniper experience
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>>570013927
>ogryn nerfs
>veteran talent shuffle that will lead to his 4th rework (it still won't fix stealth or exe stance)
>zealot will somehow lose even more choices
>psyker buffs
>arbites buffs
>scum buffs
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>>570013927
None.
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>>570014445
>>ogryn nerfs
I can 100% see them nerfing the damage reduction on dodge on ogryn.
I hope they don't, but I can see it.
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>>570013927
None
We got uncanny changes so they can sell the uncanny on transonic blades. That's it, that's the balance changes.
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>>570015396
motherfucker it sounds like something they'd do
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>>570013927
None probably. They already have done some major changes this year.
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transphobic blades
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>>570016087
almost as funny as lex offender
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>>570016319
>lex offender
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>>570013632
>>570013632
>when is [character that ass rapes in-universe high tiers just by having them in his presence] getting in
It’s a mystery.
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>>570016319
lmao lex offender is the best one i've heard so far
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>>570016319
I don't get it.
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They should nerf Ogryns damage nodes again
Just for laughs
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>>570017748
the sad part is that they actually should, his talent tree damage numbers are retard overtuned. they need to move that power from the tree to weapons then balance weapon breakpoints properly
Of course they would just halfass it and not do part B of the equation but you know
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Purgation flamer DoT good for bosses?
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>>570019401
No but it's not terrible
If you get a burgle, it's fine to burn it
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guys....

look at today's date
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>>570019642
Meaningless to me
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>>570019401
it does good damage but you should be careful not to overuse the ammunition, get it to max burn stacks and wait a while. especially bad in havoc due to ammo scarcity, you'll need the flamer ammo for the inevitable rager rape pack later
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>>570019642
The funny number day was 2 days ago?
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>watch the interview with the darktide lead
>"Victor, I know the fans are very happy with you right now, because..."
>goes "Oh, they are? HAHA!!"
he knows they're fucking it up hard at every corner considering this reaction
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What did they do to bots?
Why do they crouch-walk through the whole level now?
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>>570021558
No, he heard the green light to add more to expeditions until morale truly breaks.
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>>570021558
>goes on to explain how the proudest moment in his career was when they releases vermintide 2
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>>570021558
I refuse to believe that happened, grok is that true?
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>>570021813
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>>570016612
I’m not familiar with Morty lore. When did he do that? How powerful is he actually anyway? What are the chances that someone like him or another Nurgle underling bigwig actually shows up and screws us over?
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Entertain me.
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>>569964578
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>>570022685
> What are the chances that someone like him or another Nurgle underling bigwig actually shows up and screws us over?
the Tertium campaign is really still a minor one so I doubt anyone of note is popping up. their efforts are needed elsewhere most likely.
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>>570022685
Atoma is very distant from.all the happenings, so very low
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>And then... THE SPACE MARINE SHOWS UP!!!
>brmmm... pooow!!!
>*mashes space marine plastic funkopop against heretic plastic funkopop*
>take that heretic! hiya!
>your evil will no longer be welcome here, heretic!
>*throws the heretic funkopop into a corner, plastic shattering*
>noooooooo I paid 500 dollars for this adult toy dude my freaking adhd!
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Reminder that even Fatshark is fully aware that up until Skitarii, Darktide was not "core 40k"
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>still no gameplay previews of trans sonic blades or war crime pistol
saving the best for last
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>>570026017
If this surprises you you're retarded. They flat out stated from the very beginning that they want Darktide to be a story told about the grounded, human angle of things, not an epic story about space marines or whatever.
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>>570021558
He knows that Expeditions was a flop.
He also acknowledged in that same interview how people were fucking pissed when Hive Scum was revealed and not skitarii.
Wouldn't surprise me if this causes them to heavily steer their developement later this year and next year.
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>>570009942
nice!
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>>570022685
Very low because Atoma is a drop in the bucket.
That's the entire point of Darktide and its story. What is happening on Atoma is just fucking tuesday for the Imperium and Inquisition.
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>"Life in the imperium sucks, so you should convert to chaos"
>look inside
>it's literally worse in every single way including the afterlife
People keep falling for it
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skitty
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>>570026324
necromunda is a story of the "grounded, human angle of things," and it's more 40k than darktide
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>>570027009
sounds like it's not actually grounded or about the human angle
Like you have to be severely retarded to not understand that Darktide intentionally doesn't portray space marines, right
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>>570026747
there is no afterlife for humans, their souls just dissolve whether they were loyal or not
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>>570026885
'Cord skitten
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>>570026017
that's literally the premise of the game. As said by Fatshark themselves.
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>>570022685
Mortarion is a fucking Daemon Primarch.
He is so stealthy that he basically teleports.
He flies.
He has 14 wounds and a 2 up save + a 4 up invuln (that translates to not fucking dying)
He has a giant scythe that just instantly kills everything he hits, burn+corrosion phosphex grenades, a plasma pew pew and rot magic.

Leaving out any of the usual Nurgle disease fuckery, hes already above the powerlevel of a great unclean one.

There is no fucking way he gets anyway near a random shithole like Atoma.
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>>570027180
there's no space marines in necromunda
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>>570027472
Are you talking about hired gun?
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>>570027235
That's not true and has never been true at any point in time. Human souls are eaten by deamons in the warp, unless they are particularly strong willed and faithful in which case they stand at the emperor's side and glow as part of his warp presence.
This is in contrast to what chaos does, which is laugh when you fall for their tricks and generally eat your soul anyway, or if they find you entertaining they torture you or make you into a plaything. If you did something to gain their favor, which involves betraying humanity and making life worse for everyone else on a major scale, then they make you powerful, but they still rape you/trick you/make you an oozing zombie/etc depending on which one you serve and the vast majority of people who have become deamons or noteworthy servants regret their actions. All but a few want to die and wish to undo their sins by the end of it.
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>>570027296
DISCH0RD-SK1TTEN will be my Skitarii name, thanks anon.
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>>570027898
Pure headcanon.
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>>570027898
Don't even try to discuss lore here. You can literally spell out what happens in various novels and you'll get some retard secondary who has only played videogames say it's headcanon because he's not familiar with it from his youtube shorts he watched.
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>mr e video recommended to me
>click it
>in the first 30 seconds it takes him 5 rumbler shots to hit one poxbomber
>close video
This is the guy trying to tell me how to play?
>>
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>>570028549
>>mr e video recommended to me
>>click it
I have goyim fatigue
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>>570028549
he's probably the single worst player out of all the youtuber tards. He used footage of himself playing staff psyker in one of the videos and he almost never played above 80 peril, shit was so painful to watch I just closed the video.
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The best IG regiment, fight me.
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>>570028760
>he's probably the single worst player out of all the youtuber tards
RealAsianRobot
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>watch ungatuber
>he bungas
Screee someone tell me how to play this game I have 2000 hours in
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>>570029203
is that the faggot that said to bind tag to left mouse button
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>>570028549
>click it
I unironically think you're deeply retarded and not the "teehee I'm autistic" way zoomer females like to pretend nowadays. Kill yourself, mouth breather
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>>570029421
no
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>bro the pious and the faithful stand with the empra in eternal glory ;')
he hates the ecclesiarchy, you're retarded, and whatever novel this was in is noncanon tripe written by a christ cuck
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>>570029734
They don't join the corpse emperor, they join The God Emperor (Chaos god) in the warp. You must have forgotten how the warp works. Motherfucker has an entire religion and his former self bullshitting him into existence.
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>>570029489
Sounds like someone is having a grumpy dumpy lol. Uh oh stinky!
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>>570028673
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>>570029421
yeah it is
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>>570030340
Oh no!
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>>570026747
People don’t actually understand what Chaos is. They just know that some guy promises to make things better.
>>570028912
That’s not Vostroyans.
>>570027472
Imperial Fists are there actually. :)
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>>570026747
Nurgle doesn't make your life that much worse
>your skin blisters but you no longer give a fuck because you're immune to pain and itching feels good
>your teeth rot but it's fine because your own diarrhea tastes quite good now and you don't need to chew it
etc
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Is thunderstrike as worthless as I think it is or is it actually secretly hecking OP and makes skullcrusher even better?
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>>570033525
Having very high impact can be funny, watching every enemy get knocked down to the floor with easy. But you have better alternatives. It's not secretly OP or anything.
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>>570027898
There is no Emperor made heaven in 40k. It's literally fanfiction made up by redditors.
No matter how faithful you are there is nothing but oblivion once you die.

Malcador confirms this in the First Lord of the Imperium audiobook when he is comforting a woman at their deathbed who is one of his dying aids.
He tells her
>"I am here Sibel. I am here. You must sleep. I won't let go. Let yourself fall. Let yourself fall and he will catch you, this I swear. Give yourself to him."
But once the woman dies Malcador says this
>"You promised...you promised me it wouldn't be like this! I lie to them to spare their sorrow, even as I envy their mortality and it breaks my heart! It breaks my heart. "

The lie here being that Malcador lies about the "he will catch you, this I swear." There is no afterlife.
It's only the Warp and once you die in 40k your soul slips from your body into the Warp.
At best your soul will dissolve into nothingness quickly, with no rebirth or anything of the sort, at worst you will get caught daemons and you will be tortured by them in actual hell for rest of eternity.

And Malcador would know this because he is a psyker, but also a perpetual, and ancient one at that. He knows about the Warp and how it works.
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>JAMMER NEARBY
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>>570034542
Nah if you're in his light he obliterates your soul and absorbs its psychic power. Source: I divined it through mysterious ways
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>>570027009
>necromunda is...more 40k than darktide
>>570027472
>there's no space marines in necromunda
What did he mean by this?
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>>570034829
dorkshite is le heckin' rejecterinos core, whereas every other 40k game is 40k core
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>>570034542
I literally just said the afterlife involves being eaten by deamons in the warp, so don't say "there is no afterlife, you go to the warp". You have fundamentally misunderstood what I said.

And you're also wrong. It's been established that some souls do persist after death IN THE WARP and continue to do things, this has been a part of the setting forever. There are both human and eldar souls that hide from and dodge deamons in the warp while they search for things, and there are also human souls that see light (the astronomicon) and go towards it and join it.

You have an incomplete underdanding of the topic and are only citing one story while I am also citing stories in which other things happen. It's canon that souls do exist and can maneuver around in the warp. You're also dumb for responding to someone who says explicitly "souls go to the warp" to say "no they don't, souls go to the warp". I'm so tired of this kind of exchange here, where you can explicitly say X and someone will still come by and say "why did you say Y?!?!".
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What ever happened to this guy?
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>>570031762
Ehh, there’s a few sources that clarify while they don’t feel pain as we know it, they’re almost always tortured and harassed by a continuous buzzing noise and sensation that is very uncomfortable in its own way
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>>570036396
moved on to another hive city
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>>570036396
Sadly radio amateurs are a dying breed. Everyone just uses the internet now.
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>>570036396
They were added for an event, worked weirdly, then removed at the end of the event. I don't think they worked as intended since it seemed to move like a trapper or bomber and didn't seem to actually call in reinforcements. Hopefully there is someone, anyone, working on fixing it. But, who knows if they have the capacity to fix it.
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>>570036396
who the fuck is this guy?
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Holy shit, wtf they did to the ogryn? Shield feels like shit, everyone steals your kills. Fuck that.
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Do zealot flashbangs take longer to bring up than fire? I switched to flashbang to get some pennances and my muscle memory is all fucked up
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>>570038173
The class is in a permanent death spiral because it overperforms on lower difficulties no matter how hard they nerf him, so they just keep doing it without regard as to his performance on harder modes
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>>570038301
idk why you asking me, I'm a skitarii main
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>>570038557
Uhh because we're friends? What do you mean
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>>570038837
who tf is this? I don't know u
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Damn, infantry lasgun is so comically bad
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>>570039041
??? Anon it's me, Anon. Are you feeling all right?
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>>570038301
Yes. Fire nades are fast as fuck, flashbangs are as slow as veteran.
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>>570039325
Ughhh ok thanks
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>>570016319
>>570016561
I saw an arbie arguing with people in the lobby over his offensive name a while back. child molexter
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>>570039512
I had to change my name, LexualFantasies.
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You guys think the skit will get to use the plasma gun? It'd feel really bad for vet to lose some identity but it also feels like it'd be weird for an admech unit to not be able to use it.
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>>570040147
no, but he'll get plasma pistol when that gets added in 2031
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>>570039512
saw similar with one called lexual molexer. Also saw one called lexual healing
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Now that the dust has settled, why was the HIVCUM a huge mistake?
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>>570021558
Maybe link the fucking video
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>>570040486
because it was the DLC class everyone joked fatshark would make
the disappointment it would result in was very clearly communicated for years before its arrival
it only found appeal among sunk cost darktiders who value its *gameplay (*read: overpowered)
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>>570039107
no? it’s really good it just gives you carpal tunnel without an autoclick macro
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>>570040486
I hate the stimm mechanic so much I often forgor I have to use them
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>>570040881
gameplay was good before they ruined it
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>>570040230
Now that they've changed how the plasma gun works a bit, I'm surprised they haven't rolled out a plasma pistol. Maybe next game
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guys i cant fucking wait for skitties
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>>570041289
nay that's yer mum
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>>570041289
No. That's just a sororitas.
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>>570041289
Probably. I love the cartel styled tattoos you can choose for them.
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>>570041289
That's the tattoo of the scribe in the mourningstar. He got it to impress her but she swerved
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>>570040486
>make a class that everyone could see coming from miles away, a class that literally NOBODY wanted
>be surprised that people are pissed when it is revealed
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>>570035442
>I literally just said the afterlife involves being eaten by deamons in the warp
Motherfucker, being EATEN BY A DEMON isn't an afterlife, your soul LITERALLY DIES.
What fucking retard thinks this?
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>>570040486
The opposite to ogryn: gets swatted like a fly if you haven't mastered the basics but soars if you did. Fatshark's required to buff him since he's paid content but this only makes him capable of greater bullshit while noobs bounce off unless the class can play itself (see: arbites).

Thematically, scum is the most boring idea they could have come up with. Basically one of the countless unremarkable junkies you mow through every mission And it's executed in the blandest way: Melee scum reminds me of VT2 shade except that at least took more thought than hold w+mash m1. Ranged scum is literally braindead. Medkit is a meme build that was gutted into incoherence a day before launch and glass cannons were never meant to be supports. Scum's keystones are abysmal in that 2 only function with a very specific playstyle while the 3rd is always the best choice. Scum exposes all the cracks in Darktide's grenade design by having 2 extremely strong ones so whoever brought scum gets all the grenades no questions asked.

>>570041019
While I like the idea of a secondary talent tree, the execution was amateurish. I have a mod that reminds me whenever the stimm is ready but it's like an alarm pops to take your meds every 40 seconds and you must pause the fight for or lose your buffs.
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>>570041946
>I have a mod
name? Ty in advance
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>>570041946
Which is a shame, I really like the bone saw and needle pistol mechanics along with the stimm kit but it just falls off compared to m1 with the shivs or tacaxe. I tried that build where you have a low cooldown stimm that you throw down like every 15 or 20 seconds to spread the DoT to enemies while you hit shit with the bone saw. Its a lot of fun popping the skill often and spreading the DoT, knocking everything down, and generally keeping your team from ever being in danger but god damn the lack of damage on your own means your team really needs to stick with you in your stimm aura or else you barely contribute.
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>>570042094
John. I'm not sure why you're asking me that though.
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>>570041946
>While I like the idea of a secondary talent tree, the execution was amateurish.
I just think scums should be able to use a normal stimm on the spot when they find them, since they can't carry it. Would make perfect sense for a space crackhead and would solve my issue of everyone in aurics not realizing I need their help to pick up and use that med stimm I'm pinging.
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>>570042490
Your joke doesn't really work since I quoted the mention of a mod. Sorry Pajeet.
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>>570042490
I thought it was funny anon.
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>>570042094
NTA, Stimm Countdown.

>>570042638
C'mon bro that's a classic gag, why in god's name would you let pajeets have that?
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>>570042490
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>>570042490
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>>570026354
The people who bitched when darktide was new by and large didn't and don't get Warhammer or tide
The fact that they have to cater to these people just to stay in the green sucks
That said hive scum is the best thing they've ever made across both darktide and vermintide purely from a gameplay perspective, and I can only imagine the hate is from people who have sub20 hours in tide but feel the need to have an opinion
Also I have zero expectations for skitty because it's a fucking pandering class, I hope it's fun
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>>570040975
it gives you carpal tunnel AND it's the weakest gun in the game, by far
and it's very impressive considering autoguns exist
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Holy shit, smokes on veteran are so good it's unreal
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>>570026354
I don't understand why they thought an entirely new game mode wouldn't flop when mortis died pretty quickly
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>>570045075
this but unironically
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>>570045075
I prefer conversion field on skitarii
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>>570044682
A class with skills such as infinite ammo sprint with highlighted enemies, a win button rocket launcher, a win button gas nade, a pebble, a standard "berserk" ability, is the best thing about both tides? Grim. And sorry but they WERE trying to pander with hivescum too, they simply misread the room.
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>>570045949
It was fine before they made scum invincible in melee and buffed the shit out of rampage
And even when ranged was "overpowered" more people still played rampage because it was stronger
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>>570022257
>>570040554
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZx2GaX6OHI
spoilers, there isn't any relevant info in it it's basically just an ad
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>>570046395
I'm talking about how valuable of an addition to tide those mechanics are, if the class is meant to be "the best thing about both tides". Maybe you meant the movement of the class cause I sure don't see anything else that's grand about it.
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I quite like rolling steel
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>>570047561
I've noticed people actually paying attention to the battery objective lately. Soon as the switch is flipped everyone's back in the other car going for them. Feels great.
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>>570047561
For me it got boring after the first time..
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>>570047732
It's because the game is free on PS Plus right now.
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>>570047561
It's a cool idea for a mission. Also a great one to run to cheese a few penances.
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>>570048084
No way, TL is too high for new players, and you can tell when someone's playing on a gamepad by the way they shoot.
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>>570047561
Its either the smoothest mission you will ever do or CBT from start to finish, no in between.
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>>570047561
I got my "just a flesh wound" pennance on that last night
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>>570048408
>closes the door before the first data interrogator is in place
I'M HELPING! :D
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>>570048539
>guy stays at the rotating section fighting endless enemies instead of helping with batteries
>goes down and complains about fighting endless enemies solo
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>>570048725
>nobody in the team is doing any boss damage
>two retards are shooting the void shield
>the one competent player (You) cannot simultaneously rape the boss and shoot the infinite influx of mutants, tox bombers and snipers
>3 of them somehow get cliffed because they position themselves toward the server racks instead of wedging themselves in a corner
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>>570049191
>player runs the entire gauntlet perfectly
>every objective, every door shut at the right time
>no downs, barely any damage, most contribution against boss, covering other teammates
>still fights endless spawns at the battery objective
I... I don't understand.
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>>570049454
I think I have an idea of what might be happening
>retard is blasting music, can't hear the NPCs bitching about the objective
>retard has major tunnel vision, does not notice any HUD elements bitching about the objective
>retard has played rolling steel maybe 3 times, and done it this way each time
>other players have always completed the objective for him, accidentally rewarding that behavior and teaching retard that killing the endless horde opens up the way
I'm pretty sure most players genuinely do not understand the objective, likely because they aren't paying attention. Plus, it's extremely fucking hard for the average retard to even survive in auric, paying attention to HUD objectives or Kayex drawling on isn't in the budget of their mental bandwidth when they're panicking fighting 2 poxwalkers.
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>>570035305
>40K is only the tabletop!
Wrong and lame opinion
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>>570051105
who are you quoting
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40k is only the tabletop!
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>>569964117

any rat news´ ?
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>>570051685
u lookin dam fine out in dis wilderness, cuz
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>>570051849
can you just asnwer the quéstion
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>>570052180
no
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>>570051507
This guy duh >>570051652
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>>570051105
He’s so cool too…
>>570051849
>>570052528
Kek based
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>>570051685
Rat news, rat news!
Getcher rat news right 'ere pal!
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>>570052528
This rat asked for news...
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Bonsoir!

Un ptit kebab, chef?
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>>570054119
Mon petit rat cuistot... J'ai déjà mis de côté l'argent du kebab pour les Skitarii premium...
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>>570049878
>two people fighting the boss
>one keeping the hordes spawning from the containers nearby at bay
>one player WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back at the med station getting mauled by specials
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>>570054539
Tu n'es qu'un misérable sac à merde, Jean-Mustafa. J'irai chier dans tes croissants.
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>>570044682
You lost
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>>570042490
Kek
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>>570041289
possible but I always just thought it was a random sister/saint
>>570036790
that’s interesting, i guess even Nurgle has a rug pull or two to pull on you
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Veteran is shit now thanks to the changes to the AI director
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>>570056416
Huh?
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Zealot is shit now because I soiled my diapers yesterday
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>trying to level zealot
>parry nuking swarms
>psyker keeps fucking chain stunning them with lightning bullshit
>it does nothing but piss me off
FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF I HATE MALICE GET ME OUT OF MALICE I JUST WANT TO LEVEL THE FUCKING CLASS
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Psyker is shit now because the smigger tainted its legacy
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Arby is shit now because the moon is in retrograde
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>>570056730
Anon, respectfully, what the fuck are you babbling on about and getting mad for?
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>>570056924
it's interrupting my cool parry chains.
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>>570045432
>I don't understand why they thought an entirely new game mode wouldn't flop when mortis died pretty quickly
Because they added more content and put more effort into it.
Like from a certain perspective Expeditions is very ambitious and kinda neat as a concept, in a vacuum. Doesn't mean it is actually good or even well executed however. It just isn't what people want from Darktide.
Many have said it, but Expeditions feels like a gamemode that some executive demanded to be made so they could ape off HD2.

People like the basic gameplay and missions, because it is simple and fun. You start from point A, need to get to point B and then do XYZ objectives through out it. You collect some crafting mats and as a side quest can shoot some idols for extra crafting mats and even do few fun puzzles.

Like the biggest issues with both Expeditions and Mortis is that they are genuinely just fucking BARE BONES, that's the issue.
Mortis Trials is just you doing the same old fucking shit in a small as fuck arena map with OP powers, novelty of which wears out faster than the speedrunning shroud zigger.
And Expeditions is just you running around collecting fucking scrap metal just so you can unlock more of the map, so you can collect more fucking scrap metal.

But there's no fucking reward or reason to play these modes at all. You don't get rewarded with some special resource or something. Like if you could use tech-remnants to upgrade your gear?
Only "rewards" for expeditions is an ok armor set only for the 4 OG classes (i guess fuck you if you are an arby or scum player)
And in Mortis the "reward" is just you listening to just some fucking audiotapes you can just listen on youtube instead for 1/10 the hassle.

The issue is that both of these modes have genuinely zero fucking reason to engage with. While at the same time they take the established 'Tide formula and try to turn it into something that just doesn't plain work.
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>>570057243
>Only "rewards" for expeditions is an ok armor set only for the 4 OG classes (i guess fuck you if you are an arby or scum player)
Funny thing about these DoA modes is they actually lose value over time since players are more likely to play DLC classes that get nothing out of them.
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>>570057687
and the players that want to cosmetics drop it the moment they get the cosmetics they are after.
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>>570057687
That is 100% true as well.
If you're an arby main, what fucking incentive do you have for even playing Expeditions?
Fucking nothing.
>>570057925
This is also a big issue with these gamemodes. But what is also worse is that it also just fucks late comers too who might want to try getting those cosmetics.
Like I can guarantee you that 2 years from now, if Darktide even survives that long, both Mortis or Expeditions will be 100% dead with nobody playing them.
So if you're a new player and you want to try these gamemodes, only thing you will be faced with is an emptry fucking lobby that nobody will join. Which will just discourage you from ever playing those modes because as boring as they are, they are even more boring and soulless if you're playing them alone with bots.
Nevermind that if you're a newer player, you will probably also struggle with Mortis and Expeditions when playing them alone since 3 lobotomite bots are not at all helpful to you.
So you're gonna die and then fail the mission, which will discourage new players from playing even more.

Even Havoc suffered from this a bit since many people just played it to get their cosmetics and then left.
But it isn't as bad because Havoc is just the regular gamemode but more difficult, which appeals to the people who want a challenge that Aurics can't give them.
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>>570056961
He's stunlocking them for easy clean up. Fuck your parries just whack them and clear the level for free xp
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>>570059504
That anon is correct. Parries are cool. Smiting is uncool. The psyker was in the wrong
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>>570056731
What compels people to smigger it up for an entire game? At best you should only use it occasionally, even better would be taking another psyker blitz. Assail is okay for sniping in a pinch if your weapons aren't up for the task, you'd think that'd be typical choice.
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>>570059745
Its fun to light the entire room up with purple and blue lightning.
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>>570059676
>waaaaahh I just want to level class
>but I'm MAD at this dude for making the leveling easier and quicker
Retards, the both of you
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>>570059969
Yeah for like 10 seconds, and then you realize it's the gameplay equivalent of keys jingling and do something interactive instead
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>>570059969
Oh I see, it's the doom eternal effect
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>>570047561
they should have made the carts presets and randomised them.
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>>570059990
It's actually not quicker, the smigger can't move very far and players have to chase down everything that got smigged rather than the enemies coming to you. Smigging an armor blob can be useful, smigging a couple dozen poxxies is not, and poxxies are pretty much all you'll see on malice. Add to that the smigger will smig it up over every enemy group and the level can take way more time to run than it should for experienced players leveling alts. Better to run forward and leave the smigger behind.
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>>570059990
I know you might be confused, but most peoples end goal is to have fun, not to make number go up. He's complaining because he's not having fun, making the number-go-up process he needs to go for to max out the class for more fun an annoying chore.
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>>570060032
>>570060135
I just think its cathartic to make an entire horde stop at my command
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>>570060478
Dude this is in malice. The enemy density is not that high.

>>570060506
Play the level out, blacklist dude, move on. I fear it's not that deep
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>>570060798
>Play the level out, blacklist dude, move on. I fear it's not that deep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9
recognize that you're doing this and stop because it's not intelligent or constructive and simply makes you annoying to be around
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>>570060798
>Dude this is in malice
Yes I mentioned that. The problem is that the smigger is stopping for every enemy group and slowing down the whole team on a difficulty you can basically run through in ~15 minutes, if that.
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This good, my niggas?
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>>570060935
>simply makes you annoying to be around
As opposed to the same old tired smigger complaint that's definitely not annoying now it's been repeated the 1000000000000th time?
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>>570061462
you look like a fucking retard
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>>570061462
Looks like a Village People
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>>570061508
>As opposed to the same old tired smigger complaint that's definitely not annoying now it's been repeated the 1000000000000th time?
you just did it again, textbook

You know what I do when I truly don't care about someone's complaint? Take a guess
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>>570061508
It needs to be made clear that smigger builds aren't good or you'll eventually get people advocating for it unironically.
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Can you level in mortis trials
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>>570061714
Okay, I guess we'll just repeat the same old posts over and over until tbe end of time. Thrilling

>>570061734
It's been made clear, plenty of times already
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it's ridiculous that fatshark is held back because gw only wants them to make cosmetics based on the current lineup for their minis
instead of, oh I don't know, official artwork?
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>>570061462
Dont you have a Mojave desert to be patrolling?
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>>570059504
>He's stunlocking them for easy clean up
Instead of just killing them as one of the strongest classes in the game? Smigger apologists are the most retarded people alive.
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>>570061875
>Okay, I guess we'll just repeat the same old posts over and over until tbe end of time. Thrilling
Yes, they'll do that and you don't have to tell them to stop thinking. It's not intelligent, constructive nor pleasant to read. Do you not value making your input at least one of those things?
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>>570061875
My man, you can just disengage from the argument, you don't have to have the last word.
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>>570061875
Apparently it isn't clear to retards like you.
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>>570061958
>held back
Let's call a spade a spade here, without using the warhammer IPs fatshark would be nobodies and these games would have 5% of the budget. I think it's fine if there's some lost potential in cosmetics in exchange for that
GW is supremely retarded but I think they knew this going into it
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>>570062025
>It's not intelligent, constructive nor pleasant to read
Wait I though you were talking about my posts, not the samey smigger crying?
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>hive scum get crowbars and the skitarii don't
There truly is no justice in this godforsaken world
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>>570062579
You know he at least had a point. You're just crying about it on principle
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>>570062649
The skitarii are the militaristic arm of the mechanicus, who have fancier weaponry just lying around. A crowbar is just a tool to them, and an incredibly primitive one at that. Why would they use it as a weapon?
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>>570062864
It's the ENGINSEER crowbar
I don't think it's good, i just want justice
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>>569964578
Here's my lad
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>>570062947
Okay, and? The hive scum has found it laying around and decided to pinch it for use as a weapon. It's still just a primitive tool to the mechanicus and a skitarii alpha in particular wouldn't take it as a weapon over shock maul, taser goad, trans blades, etc.
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>>570063164
meh
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>Beat havoc 40
Now what
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>>570063346
wait for paywalled classes to do it again with
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>>570063346
Now you can play the game
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>>570061608
>>570061652
very harsh
>>570062008
when I get around to playing expedition
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>>570063346
you got true survivor?
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Auric storm survivor is harder than havoc 40 because randoms SUCK ASS
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>>570063934
You asked for opinions, it's not harsh but true. Getting rid of the gay dad moustache would be a huge help
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>>570064126
what about randoms in Havoc, lil bro?
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>>570064539
there's a natural filter as you climb through the ranks
You have proper shitters in auric maelstrom
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>>570064030
nah
Guess I have something to grind
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>>570059990
>I want to fight enemies
>retard is turning my game into a boring shooting gallery
total smigger death and I mean this on 100% unironically, fuck that ability and fuck niggas who use it.
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>>570065362
want my advice? don't go for it
I unlocked mine just a few months ago and since then I've felt more inclined in not doing havocs or playing this game as much as I used to
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im fairly certain i saw about 3 "karmelo"s in the mourningstar today
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whats typically the go to melee weapon for Zealot right now?
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>>570066423
Relic blade
Duelling sword
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>>570066301
whats sad is that the hardcore permadeath mod for darktide needs you to be level 18, but these karmelo characters are level 17 so they don't qualify for permadeath
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>>570066423
relic blade or eviscerators
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>>570066486
which mark for the Relic Sword?
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>>570066585
Mk 10
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>load in to an ongoing hard stratagem
>hellbrute right at the start
>teammate running around with low health
>basically fighting it solo but doing well
>termie pops in and throws in his unparryable spin attack
>hellbrute doing the ground slam as well
>right as a warp storm spawns on top
>die
God I hate these fucking slavic niggers so much
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>>570064126
All you gotta do to get it is not get killed for a few matches, so just build for survivability. Maybe play as arbitrator so you at least have one teammate you can rely on.
>>570064539
You can't quickplay into havoc so you'll at least have a decent team composition. In quickplay you sometimes get into funny situations where everyone is a flame psyker or some shit like that.
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>>570066423
the uninstall wizard
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>>570066770
Which Blessings?
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>>570067705
Cranial grounding and rampage
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>>570067118
just dodge :)
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>>570066423
Dueling sword, knife, relic blade, evis, chainaxe on martyrdom.
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I don't know if this is a bug or a feature, but Hive Scum gets zero Curio options in Sire Melks shop
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>>570063594
Good video very informative
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Man, zealot is the least fun class for me. Every builds feel kinda the same. Even ogryn is a blast.
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>>570070323
Ogryns have some impact to their attacks. There is a reason why so many use meme builds for zealots because boss oneshotting is the only satisfying thing they can do
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>>570071789
>boxy waist
>skinny thighs
2/10 Would not bang
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Darktide is fucking gay and lame
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>>570071314
>>570070234
>>570071789
wow atoma frenchie scum have no tits in comparison
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>>570071945
this, so much this
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We're getting info on all weapons, blessings and talents in no more than a week
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>>570072586
Gonna have to paypig for the baseball hat
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What weapon do I get? no omnissian axe dont like techmuhreen
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Thinking about playing Darktide again.
Do randoids still pick up books?
I used to eat the books on sight so retards couldn't grab them.
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>>570072586
the crayon eaters chapter
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>>570072408
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>>570072586
>>570072801
>>>/vm/2557630
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>>570072586
Lol
>>570072873
It’s a very common phenomena among all but the highest difficulties yes
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Did someone say post about helldivers? Don't mind if I do. Big patch in the works. Diverging destroyer upgrades, multiple ships to choose from, interior customization, level 300 cap, stuff, things.
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So do space marines fuck?
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>>570074121
Yes, homosexually
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>>570073647
We need to normalize Helldivers in Coopg spaces because it's general is on it's last legs.
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>>570074636
it was up until arrowhead dropped that news
it wasn't even for a specific reason, the mood just soured because nothing was getting better and sloptubers finally picked up on the fact that negativity would generate clicks so the whole thing death spiraled
so arrowhead spoiled their big plans, which they tend to never do for some reason, just to get everyone to shut up
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>>570073647
Big if true
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>>570074783
I have no idea what you mean
Like the 40k warbond? That's months away
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>>570074975
>>570075083
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/668367347548946858?l=english
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>>570073647
I don't dabble in cope gemu to play house.
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>>570072586
idk this looks kind of cool but im also retarded
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>>570075292
if darktide had a keep and you could customize it you'd eat that shit up
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>>570075194
>Leroy Jenkins joke in 2026
Thanks for linking though, sounds promising and interesting enough to pull me back in for some HD2 once it's released. Solid game to go back to with friends every now and then
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>>570073647
I kinda don't give a fuck about Helldivers anymore, the problems pile is so much bigger than what they could solve in a year's time that I've given up hope and freemium monetization on my 60 buck game was insulting back then but has only gotten worse with every update.
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>>570075406
Maybe, but it's not a gameplay loop critical system.
The issue with helldivers for a tideslopper like myself is that it'll always lack a fleshed out melee system. Guns only go so far.
The least they could do is add first person view to mechs.
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>>570072586
Canon Rainbow Warriors from Rogue Trader
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>>570075731
Thd fact that Helldivers does this retarded 3rd person but you aim in 1st is putting me off that game like crazy.
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Do ogryns have kids or are they made in a vat or something
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>>570074783
>>570075194
That's not a bad counter to the community getting overly negative. Meanwhile, I don't think that kind of announcement would do much for the Darktide community.
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>>570076189
Every time the team ogryn returns from the job, he goes back to his morbidly obese ogryness at home.
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>>570076316
Based
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>>570075292
Bean soup theory
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>>570075538
> >Leroy Jenkins joke in 2026
Yeah that’s just… lol
>>570076189
Our Ogryns are apparently vat grown according to that one CM post, but regular Ogryns reproduce the same way we do
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>>570075984
You don't have to use first person, anon.
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>>570077163
Sounds like a fake and gay concept only a woman could conceive of.
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>>570077321
Pea brain theory
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>>570077435
It's fine. Women are cute because they're a bit vacuous.
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>>570075684
it's $40
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>>570077546
Incel theory
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>>570077969
There, there.
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>>570078195
>only type of pussy anon will get to touch
Sorry for you're loss
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>>570061958
>instead of, oh I don't know, official artwork?
GW lost a few legal battles and learned they only own what they make models of and artistic depictions don't count. If someone makes a model off an artistic depiction which they don't have a model of, model maker takes that particular cake as long as they call it something not specifically trademarked. Which is why they've become more retentive in regards to artistic depictions that stray from the model range, for both their own box/book art as well as other media depictions.
Darktide's various original class cosmetics got grandfathered in on the old contract before these shenanigans. GW has started choking harder for the new stuff.
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>>570078628
Some types you just need some time to get used to.
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>>570077546
veritable truth nuke
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>hdg so fucked they need come crawling over here to advertise
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>>570080289
I just decided to post that because a bitter little man redirected people to /vm/ and I knew it would upset him
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>fresh out of the factory
>cracked goggles and worn paint
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>>570080575
That atoma gritty wind man.
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>>570080575
It's called patina, it shows how venerable your wargear is.
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>>570080575
They're just as pissed about it as you are
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>>570080765
he's literally still in the factory
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>>570078663
>no artistic depictions but models allowed
This autism just gets more and more confusing and arbitrary everytime I learn something new about it.
>>570080575
You make do with what you have man.
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>>570080575
That's just hair that got stuck behind the glass
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>>570080575
This is the default unupgraded skitty. They have been wearing this during combat for years
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>>570082478
this is the cutscene that plays shortly after you finish up your skit customization
it's entirely possible hadron stripped them down, did the work on the core nugget, and then put them back together with the same parts, but that seems like a stretch
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When are they going to show.more
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>>570083786
I would say some time between now and june 23rd
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>>570083989
Have my le updoot saar
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>>570084539
Settle down, okay?
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I've been having fun read:being useless on scum running the blackout grenades :)
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>>570084854
you didn't need to include those last 6 words bro
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>>570084728
No
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>>570084854
They aren't great even with the modifier for +chem application on blitz, but they do allow you to knock hordes around for cheap and disengage at will.
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>>570086057
yeah I'm using them to protect my virgin butthole while I run around with desperado
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>>570055038
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Are +% base damage and +% damage functionally the same? Or is one calculated different from the other?
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>>570086057
Do the kills from that modifier count towards the kills needed to regen a grenade?
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>>570087908
They are in fact different.
+%Base Damage is an increase of the raw base damage of an attack before any other multipliers or bonuses, and most importantly is not affected by those other multipliers/bonuses.
It is sort of the counterpart to Finesse damage, where the total listed bonus is actually less than practical overall bonus.
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It's a tough decision, but I think my favorite class is close between the zealot and the psyker.

I like the zealot because they have a cute voice actor, and I have always enjoyed the faith stuff in 40k (I play SoB on tabletop). I also love that they cure corruption, and actually have an act of faith as one of their abilities.

Psyker is my favorite since I tend to like wizards and casters in games like this and in rpg's and such, and I like that they're kind of squishy and theoretically harder to play, even if it doesn't really end up that way since every class has options to be pretty hard to kill if you play correctly. I use the patroller voice and I like it alright.

Arbites gets points for feeling very tanky which is well done by fatshark since they're wearing carapace armor. And I also love hearing Kerillian again, even if the character is completely different. So I suppose they are my third favorite.

Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>570089317
For me? It's Skitarii.
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>>570089317
I like ogryn because he's a big fucking retard
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>>570089183
Huh... that seems like it's kinda bad then, am I wrong?
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That bottom right vet keystone is strangely worded
Do I get some melee kills and then shoot something to regen toughness?
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>>570089446
Yeah, it's not great.
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>>570089612
No, it activates when you swap weapons.
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>>570089446
More damage is more damage, so long as it helps you hit a relevant breakpoint it's good. But it does mean Base Damage is less competitive with regular damage nodes if you ever have to choose between them in your build.
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For me? It's Skitarii.
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reminder that all femskits are free use nugget onaholes for veteran chads
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>>570089998
adeptus mechanicus property, actually, canonically, factually, literally
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>>570089998
>do not fist android girls
But android bois are okay right?
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why not just fuck servitors, im certain sex servitors exist but only for the space nobles
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>>570090928
that would functionally be no different from fucking a disney animatronic with a corpse draped over the top of it
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>>570091125
That's my fetish.
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>>570090928
I don't know why this is being brought up in the coop videogame thread, but yes those canonically exist. But most people rich enough to commission a custom sexbot servitor are also simply rich enough to raise or purchase a slave for the same purpose, so that's more common. Plenty of stories about both.
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>>570089998
lol
>>570090928
There is quite literally a servitor for every task and purpose you can pretty much think of in the Imperium. There was a story of a noble man or something moving away from his home to assume some important hereditary position who had an entire servitor dressed as a clown (I think) gifted to him as a child who’s only purpose was to play with him and his toys that he just abandoned in the darkness of his childhood room when he left.
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>>570090928
wow we're not so different after all
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>>570092394
It's been long confirmed Imperium is the 40k equivalent of Skaven.
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Ritardii
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Is there a revolver cosmetic that looks more like an irl/modern one?
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>>570040147
Can't see how not, since the nascent weapons they're coming with are far too limited for a class. The *have* to share some weapons, but they would never use any of the standard ballistic weapons. Maybe las weapons, but plasma is far more lore friendly
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>>570081639
It's fairly straightforward, legally.
I make a picture, say the Mona Lisa, that is a piece of 2D art.
You like it and make a sculpture, that is a piece of 3D art.
I get miffed and sue you. The judge deems that I own the copyright to the original Mona Lisa, but that does not extend to the extra work you put in to creating the sculpture, a separate amd distinct piece of art, for which YOU own the copyright and can technically sue me for infringement if I produce my own.
And this is how we ended up with all the official codex art only looking like released models.
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>>570094784
no
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>>570091849
>he just abandoned in the darkness of his childhood room when he left.
That's not even the worst fate a servitor can suffer. Peace, quiet and eventual death arriving much sooner than if it were maintained or repurposed.
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>>570096709
Lame, default looks ugly as fuck
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I'm fairly new to this game but the psyker fashion and weapon cosmetics is mostly ass compared to the bright mage in VT. You would think being an operative for the Inquisition that has freedom to collect heretical and xeno tech that you would have some more cooked looking shit so long as it was sanctified.
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>>570089416
I like the Ogryn and the Psyker being homies.
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Does Veteran get access to a blue beret? This is very important
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>>570097789
Fuck the UN
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Any non reddit answers?
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>>570097963
>>570097789
Regimental beret is in the store sometimes.
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>>570097963
And fuck Palestine
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>>570097789
Sadly no
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>>570097789
Only red one. You might get a couple recolours one day but I wouldn't hold my breath for specifically blue.
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>>570098382
>>570098141
Oh well, thanks
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Is this still bugged or is the tooltip out of date?
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>>570100332
I thought the Mechanicus liked choirs. Would she be playing math rock or some split genre?
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>>570100332
Did you make a Mourningstar Sims playthrough
Is Rannick gay
Do you have a servitor robo-maid
This has potential
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>>570100638
Everyone knows it's all synthesizers and theremins for the Admech.

And banjos, but don't ask about that
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>>570100332
>No, Varlet, I don't have the sheet music for Roundabout, and I would not play that particular segment every time the spiky ones unleash a monstrosity on your group if I did.
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>>570097789
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>>570101169
What's with the fucking cringe camo pattern on everything?
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>>570097789
some rags too
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>>570092394
Thankfully we do have models of what Brood mothers look like and it’s not quite *that* demented lol (the cannibalism is almost certainly a thing though).
>>570096904
Yeah all things considered rotting away slowly by yourself is still relatively merciful compared to what a lot are put through. I guess the best case scenario would be being a combat servitor in an active warzone that probably won’t be ‘alive’ for very long.
>>570097547
Not all inquisitors allow that. Some are likely to kill you for even having the thought. Rannick/Grendyl presumably fall somewhere along those lines (or at least that’s probably Fatshark’s excuse).
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>>570101481
Grendyl strikes me as trending towards Radical under the hood rather than straight Puritan.
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>>570097547
Grendyl is not an Ordo Xenos inquisitor, he is Ordo Hereticus
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>>570101481
>>570101732
I'm also pissed off with most modern WH titles focusing around every Chaos deity (Mainly Nurgle and Tzeentch) bar Slaanesh. Grow multiple balls already.
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>>570102657
It's a sales thing. GW only sees the games and every other piece of media as a means to sell figures. The reason why you saw a ton of Nurgle enemy games was because they were doing a big Nurgle arc and selling a bunch of new Nurgle models. Then they did Tzeentch. If Necrons sold for shit, they would have done that with Necrons when the Silent King came in.
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>>570103605
GW wheel and deal the Necrons through Mechanicus content. It's just so shit with Blanche gone now even though his involvement with the IP was irrelevant for years, the punk rock/metal head aesthetic is going to get washed away even more.
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>>570104434
The metal head aesthetic is going to be washed away because it's not 1990 anymore grandpa
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No guts no glory on the bully club says "+50% toughness regen per second on special attack"
Does that just mean the passive regen is better for a bit or is it instant healing on special
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>>570106323
It's bad

After hitting an elite enemy with the Bully Club's weapon special (slap), sets the coherency factor that scales the amount of coherency toughness regenerated per ally in coherency to 50%. This effect lasts for a duration (see values below), can be refreshed during active duration, and enables toughness coherency regeneration even when Ogryn is by himself.

Note that this blessing is currently not working as intended: It is meant to set the coherency regeneration delay to 0 which would allow toughness coherency regen to kick in immediately on proc despite being engaged in melee combat. But it fails to do so and therefore does not proc when at least one enemy engaged in melee combat occupies a slot around the player unit
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>>570107130
>literally a non-functional blessing that does fuck all
>knowing fatshit this has been broken for years, probably ever since launch
It's just comical.
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>>570108301
Even if it worked it would still be worse than confident strike
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So I will lose rupture for the shriek forcing me to respec without nearly all of my skills for the penance stuff just because I played the game too much with smite?
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...what?
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buzzin
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>>570108956
I'm trying to get something remotely decent to wear for my Psyker without having to pay that is forcing me to change my entire character build.
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I think I'll make my own shandys this weekend
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2 weeks, i guess
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Who wants to make fake Skitarii leaks with me?
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So does zealot just suck in havoc?
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>>570111934
nah just you
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>pick flamer
>suddenly everyone I get matched with is running fire staff
>pick knife veteran
>suddenly the team has 3 knife veterans
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>>570111973
fuuuuuuuuck
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>>570108903
what the hell are you even talking about
I'm guessing you're new at the game and don't know you can have up to 8 different loadouts on each of your operatives
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>>570112119
>pick hive scum
>get a match with 3 other hive scums
it was fun as fuck we actually only had 1 rocket launcher on the whole squad.
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>>570112119
I'm convinced the matchmaker is using weights to do this shit
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>keep getting this guy named misterdeath that types in wavy rainbow text and keeps saying meow
I hate faggots so much it's unreal
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>>570111934
it's good if you're a dumb sissy healslut and press your chorus button when us melee psykerbulls order you to
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>>570112119
>nobody joining my game
>change character and set up the same mission
>people joining my game
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>>570114053
I think that's just the lobby being empty.
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>>570114301
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>>570113806
this one looks cool I think, he looks fierce not braindead
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>>570114053
Yeah, when people block you, you can't match with them. Shouldn't have said nigger so many times.
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>hyper-critical steals the kill from your blackout grenade's regen system
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>>570102657
Slaanesh is too risque in modern gee dubs eyes I guess.
>>570116042
>>570114301
Kek.
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>>570118937
>bonesaw's toxin tick steals your last hit and won't proc pickpocket
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>>570118937
>>570120629
Damn, that's crazy. Anyway, Skitarii news?
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>>570121091
The news is that it's gonna be launch hivescum level squishy
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>>570121271
Fatshark hasn't described it as a "fast, agile brawler," so I think there's no chance of that.
They say it can be built to suit any role, so I'd say it's far more likely you'll be able to navigate the tree just right to make it tanky and killy.
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How closely will I be able to make Courtney Gears
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Are there any fun builds for the sawed off shotgun? Also do guns get a finesse bonus or is that just melee?
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>>570123018
I use the sawed off on arbites with castigator stance so you can just spam it into mixed hordes with infinite ammo and kill everything. Plus arbites also has a clip size increase perk which helps that gun a lot obviously
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>>570123018
Desperado hive scum
Deathspitter and speedload on the shotty
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>>570120629
My cute wife
>>570121806
Not very close but thanks for reminding me she exists
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>>570123018
Weapon specialist vet. You are supposed to inflict bleed with crits but the problem is that bleed sucks and after the nerf 6 stacks barely do anything. But it's still fun to spam it.
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>>570124175
i recommend slapping deathspitter on the gun. The damage increase is quite noticeable
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>>570123018
Try it with Castigator's Stance, maybe something like pic related. Castigator's Stance's Blessed Armament subnode reloads a shell into your gun on ranged kills. so while it's active you can fire some ~20 shots out of your 2 barrel shotgun without reloading as long as you keep racking up kills.
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or that.
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Thanks fellas I hate castigator's stance so I'm gonna do a scummer
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MORE LIKE CACASTIGATOR STANCE
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>>570125329
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>>570125329
HOLY SHIT
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>>570125329
LLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>570125329
Oh no no no!
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>>570125329
someone call am ambulance
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https://youtu.be/l9l09FLNqWw
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>>570125329
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samefag and reddit
I don't use Castigator either
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More like Castrator's stance
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>>570127786
*crickets*
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yikes
awkward
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Ah shit ahem..


CACA!!! hahahah CACARAT!!!!
CACADIA!
*start flossing*
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>mfw it's another 16% tuffness
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HO I found a 17% in the heap
We are so back
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>>570129353
>her face when asked her why she didn't block the ammo-hogging scum
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>>570123803
Don't listen to this anon. There's nothing fun about this build.
>But it's still fun to spam it.
Not when it can't kill anything, not even the regular hordes.
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>>570129692
She likes to be left high and dry and then shanked by pox ridden crackhead duh
Modern BOYS just can't read WAMIN
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Arbites has no get out of jail free card does he?
As soon as he's up against a group of enemies, he's kind of fucked
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>>570130430
true grit?
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>>570130489
MORE LIKE TRUE SHIT
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>do expedition for the first time
>no one joins
>get to the last area
>double pox burster trapper wombo combo
>lose cuase there was no one else
Tell me about expeditions do people do them
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>>570130548
ah Gérard-Hamed vous m'avez bien eut !
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>>570130430
Shield flash bang?
Dogsplosion?
Break the line?
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>>570130430
bad
the only thing arbites has trouble with is always being the last man standing and not having nearly enough DPS to stop attrition from getting to him
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>>570130728
>Shield flash bang?
I guess but I've had several times where the wind up time fucked me up
>Dogsplosion?
That piece of shit is never near when you need it to. Too unreliable
>Break the line?
You barely move
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>>570121540
>our new class is the fastest and the tankiest and the strongest!
If scum weren't a PR disaster and skitty hype through the roof I'd accuse it of being a dev's pet class. As it stands it needs to be overpowered to get the weekend warriors on board so Fatshark can coast on another year of expeditions and mortis updates.
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>clearance 40
>people still don't let me enter their havoc 40 games
the fuck is their problem
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>>570130573
People still play them on lower difficulties to grind salvage for the title. If you're trying to play on auric it's a ghost town.
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>>570131168
Bad build, you're not the class they're looking for, things like that.
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>>570130430
If you struggle with arbites you shouldn't be playing Darktide at all.
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>>570130430
>As soon as he's up against a group of enemies, he's kind of fucked
Beg pardon??
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>>570125329
Bodied that freak
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>>570131243
Aight so I'll never care, got it
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>>570131618
Well there's still the armor sets which look pretty good. They're just kind of a slog to get as well(though nowhere near as bad as the Salvage Lord title).
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>>570128978
>>570128360
>>570128025
>>570127786
>>570127328
I laughed. Thanks.
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>>570132282
Damn, that's crazy. Anyway, Skitarii news?
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thoughts?
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>>570133551
CasualGOD I kneel
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>>570130242
what do you mean, pellets absolutely do kill regular hordes
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>>570130430
Arbites has all of them
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>>570131168
>clearance 40
means nothing
I just had a clearance 40 psyker in my aurics that was running away from 2 specialists and a dog
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>>570133551
>H25
it's the "I got my armor sets and then quit" special
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>>570131168
acceptance is honestly fucking arbitrary, because everyone has their own criteria and their own expectations
try hosting your own games and see if you can get to h40 that way
hell, maybe some of the people YOU decline will come here to bitch about it
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when skitarii comes out I will host all of my own havocs and my criteria will be that you are skitarii and your build is not retarded
>b-but I'm flamey psyker
don't care, denied
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>>570134470
Inferno psykers that play too much havoc are by far the worst when they return to auric. They get too used to playing flame turret and letting others handle everything else.
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>*eats your shit*
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>>570138336
there's a lot of bad ones though
>what do you mean you're not gonna melee enemies around me? I'M THE DESIGNATED MARKSMAN!
>whaddya doin not getting those snipers off me ass, I'm THE TAUNT SKULLCRUSHER!
>revive you? shit you sayin, lawcuck, that's not me job, I'm THE GLASS CANNON!
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>>570137040
based
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>the blogpost tomorrow will just be a really shitty write up on a few of the weapons
>somehow even more useless than the "gameplay" spotlight
>the week after will just show us a quarter of the tree and incorrectly explain the capacitance mechanic
>no pre-release footage from the YouTubers because Fatshark fired their community retard wrangler

waow
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>>570140010
did you say...SKITARII NEWS?
HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE GET HYPE GET HYPE GET HYPE
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>>570138336
Don't know if I could call him a turret. He watched me clear an entire room of gunners, then come to rescue a 3rd guy, get dogged, go to 0 hp and die, then he started backtracking. Didn't even enter that room where I killed all gunners in.
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>>570140010
Skitarii will be delayed
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>*gets netted 12 times throughout the mission*
>b-but I'm the havoc 40 true survivor here
>NUUU HELP MII SHITTERS
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>>570142332
Getting netted is normal. Your skill is not determined by how often you get netted, but by how fast you free netted teammates
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>>570142903
Sure. But getting netted by just about every single trapper means you either have a bondage fetish or you just fucking suck at the game
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I love those made up scenarii where the True Survivor is some kind of incompetent loser.
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>>570144203
>made up
you weren't here when hive scum dropped
havoclords kept going down ON UPRISING
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>>570144203
I can imagine TS getting trapped 12 times, but it's impossible to get freed 11 times by randoms
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>>570142903
>>570145048
Teammates who don't free you are shitters and players who frequently get netted are shitters

Anything else is cope
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>>570145048
>>570142903
I'd do it randombro
I'd free you every time
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>>570139016
First time I saw that I must have been in a mentally weird place as for a second I saw it as a red eggman with the eagles feathers being rows of grimaced teeth, shark-like; it's stuck with me since. I actually wish I had some sculpting ability 'cos I'd love to see if I could take that somewhere.
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>>570142903
I'm usually perfectly placed to pick someone up before they've even hit the ground. At least when the sound cues are working properly, I hear the noise, pivot in the proper direction, check the portraits to see if there's a red ! and then run over to deal with it.
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>>570150478
tbf hes built like this
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What class could fartshart do next realistically
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>>570151049
Me irl
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>>570151143
Ogryn is already in the game.
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Imagine getting a new map
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Uhhhh.. guys? This is a class 5 burn alert! X3
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>>570151049
noble scions
assassins
sisters
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>>570151049
Ratlings
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Hey whats the best character to run expeditions with? Im stupid and want the drip for collecting the tech remnants/salvage and wanna try and expedite it if possible.
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>>570152720
knife stealth zealot
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>>570152720
play ogryn and let the others do all the work
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>>570151049
My bet is on a chirurgeon style archetype of some kind.
But given that they clearly don't have to worry about future cosmetics or even sharing weapons that much, Eldar is on table if they want to bring in actual money. Lazy weapons to fill them out with their own marks of Chainsword (eldar), Shuriken (Shredder) Pistol, etc.
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>>570151049
The answer hasn’t changed from the last 30 times you asked
>>570152872
>realistic
>Eldar
I wish…
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>>570151049
If they ever decide to do a heel turn on the ‘no midgets’ thing I could see them doing a Votann given GW’s interest in pushing them. Then again, they probably don’t even the staff or resources to know where to start.
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>>570096576
I guess it makes sense but it still feels like slimily splitting hairs. Though I get why they do they do it given what happened to not only them in the past but even authors like Moorcock.
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>>570152872
You know at first i thoight the idea of eldar becoming a charactee was ultra stupid, but then I learned that fucking Grendyl apparently had contact with them according to the mortis trials stuff. So maybe. I doubt many of the rejects will like it though.
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>>570152720
Chainsword arbites with rev it up
Take shotty to kill everything and nuncio to do minigames
Part of the squad aura prevents disablers from spawning on you
You grind this shit in malice because rewards do not scale.
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>>570145048
>I can imagine TS getting trapped 12 times
you admit to getting trapped literally 12 times and you think you're any good?
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>>570155153
I only get trapped one time. Usually it's over when it happens.
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>>570155305
You already told us you get trapped all the time. Weird thing to lie about.
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>>570155879
>>570155879
>>570155879
>>570155879


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