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its over
>>570046254I'm cool with it. No more grinding Cryo-tier loot for free. Just baby mode on baby map. Man, it doesn't feel good to call Perimeter a "baby map" after all the fun I've had on it playing solo this season. I love Perimeter, man.
>Rooks right now
>>570046467
>>570046467Finally Destiny is over.
Crazy they decided to go with all in on Marathon instead of D3.
>>570047282most raped maradrone
>>570048136Because Destiny was not profitable, despite its large(r) player base. It kept financially underperforming.On top of that, Bungie is tired of Destiny. And so should everyone else be, the game ran its course and all the story material created by Staten and his team had been exhausted. They have no more stuff to work with and would need to lay an entirely new foundation for D3. Also development of Destiny has been a hot mess since day 1. The internal fights that resulted in Marty and Staten leaving, the lack of direction, the constant changes to menus, mechanics and gameplay modes. The game is a fucking wreck, kept afloat by thick layers of patchworks.
>>570049031>Because Destiny was not profitable,Certainly D3 would have at the minimum sold more than Marathon ever will in its lifetime. Marathon has flopped big time, how could it have possibly done worse than D3?
>>570049275With Bungie's dev processes and their continued need to hire expensive VAs I doubt D3 would reach the numbers to turn that ship around.Besides, nobody spends money on Destiny anyway. Best it does is silver-monetization and that doesn't appear to make even a blip in their wallets.
so where's the perimeter baby mode? zieglerberg said it's availabe since 10am PT
Maradrons on suicide watch, some getting shot on the streets.
>>570049606>As of 6/10 10am PTnigga you got a time machine?
>>570049606As of 10th of JuneTomorrow at reset19 hours from now
>>570046254So disappointed they're keeping this trash
>>570049912It's what the doctor said when your parents didn't chose abortions
>>570049458>Besides, nobody spends money on Destiny anyway.You say that but Bungie went all in on Marathon. If nobody spends money on Destiny, then negative people spend money on Marathon. It'd be one thing if they had a new IP in the works but all they have is Marathon, the game that flopped so badly they had to go F2P and that still didn't move the needle.
>>570050007Thanks esl
>>570050018Discuss that with Bungie.The poor financial performance of Destiny is factual and well documented. Any internal decision or discussion beyond that is guess work.
>>570050174你妈在地狱里吸鸡巴,你这个蒙古放羊的。
>Be me>Bought all the DLC shit on Xbox>Move to Windows PC>I don’t play on Xbox anymore>Download Destiny 2 from the Xbox app on Windows 10>I got nothing, absolutely nada>checked the app.>It’s not part of the “Play Anywhere” program>I have to either buy an Xbox or purchase the content twice for WindowsI can’t even put into words how much I despise Bungie and their jewish bullshit. They absolutely make me sick, I want to kill them.
>>570050362ok chang
>>570050402And even with that they didn't make enough money off Destiny.
>>570050432Tвoя мaть cocёт хyи в aдy, ты мoнгoльcкий кoзoпac.
>>570050501And yet it's still more than marathon will ever make
>>570050741And Destiny 3 will be forever a fever dream.
>>570050741That makes sense, since Marathon isn’t even available on the Xbox app for Windows.
>>570050847I missed the thread exfil
Yeah y'all niggas got mogged hard fr better to just close the general now.
>>570050402son this is a Marathread
what are the chances that you've probably killed someone in this general
>green mida kit is a retaliator and not a conquest
>>570051185Yeah, I just noticed I fucked up big time, I just posted it on /dg/ tho, my bad Marabro.
>>570051418Don't worry, fuck ups happen.Just look at Bungie.
>>570046254so at this point a full PvE conversion with solo Cryo is probably the move for Bungie, right?
>>570050501I don't get how Destiny is so expensive to make. Warframe seems to be doing very, very well for itself and is it also a looter shooter with a 500+ staff studio.
>>570051078Outpost is only restricted and guarded exfils. Outpost is basically a UESC stronghold so they're more entrenched, they can just be matter printed in there and in other places like Cryo. The gimmick for Outpost is to hunt for green, yellow and red keys which open various locked doors around the map and to get enough keys to break into Pinwheel which is a really high tier loot area. There are also rooms in Flight Control, Dorms and Processing that have a couple weapon lockers and a loot crate, if you don't want to risk Pinwheel you can focus on those and get out with some decent guns and okay salvage/treasure.
>We've identified an issue where Runners can gain access to the Bioresearch locked room without the necessary key. While we work on a fix we'll be making a couple of temporary adjustments:>>Loot spawns in the Bioresearch locked room will be disabled in both Day and Night variants of Dire Marsh.>>Bioresearch keys will not be able to be found in-run, nor can they be taken in a run to prevent any losses during this period.>Thanks for your reports! We'll follow-up once a fix is in place.https://x.com/MarathonDevTeam/status/2064472172958220702
>>570051078All outpost exfils are either guarded exfils that materialise bots in to fuck you or "restricted" exfils, which you can only activate if you have a master access key (one of the red/orange keys you get from the terminals with the antennas on them or from commander kills).A basic rundown of outpost looks like this>Pinwheel, a big building, takes up the entire middle of the map>Pinwheel is where all the good loot is, so most people are trying to get into pinwheel which is locked off at the start of the game>There's 3 main ways to get into Pinwheel; either collecting 2 green keys (little tags you find lying around you can find in the POI's around the outskirt) and forcibly hacking it open, destroying powerboxes and entering from the destroyed wing, or finding a conveyance request item and taking a lift up to the drone wing>In pinwheel there's a special room that has good shit in it, but it requires you to find 3 red/orange keys (the ones you use to summon the restricted exfil)>You don't have to go to pinwheel to get alright loot though; around the map there's locked armouries you can crack open with 2 yellow keys (which you can find in little yellow boxes at POI's) and 1 green key. These armouries are in flight control, processing and dormitory>Sometimes it rains fire outside. Stay under cover or inside when this happens otherwise you'll cook to death and overheat
Comeback status?
Just got the game and I've played a few rounds.What is it about this game that makes people so insane, one way or the other?It feels like a very fine and extremely pretty extraction shooter/apex legends kinda game.
>>570052740Studied.
why didn't marton find an audience of any scale?
>>570052778a mix of things>seemingly woke>/v/ high on the fumes of concord and other such games desperate for more failures>a niche genre using a beloved ip
>>570053265not really engaging enough. i played it and there wasnt anything bad about it. shootintg was fine enough, movement fine enough. hero abilities were meh but not a game breaker. i think that was the issue, outside the art style it plays very familiar, i certainly felt that way. what did it for me to stop playing was the fact that everything reset. i VIP'ed one faction and thought>wow i have to do these dog shit quests again? and i wont even get a reward or nothing, just a fuck you do it all over again? nah im good,havent played since.
>>570052778Take no risks, murder everyone in sight.But especially Rooks. All Rooks must be killed and their carcasses hung from the city gates, as a warning to all other Rooks.
>>570052778When it was first revealed to be an extraction shooter, lots of people pretended they were upset since they wanted a singleplayer focused Marathon entry. Most of these people didn't actually play the original games, and were mostly just people who watched videos on the game trilogy. That combined with recently pissed off destiny haters from some recent expansion woes basically started a group of hardcore marathon haters that have been rooting for the game to fail. Bungie was pretty silent on progress with the game for a while, and then they had a minor controversy with one of the artists on the team plagurizing some fan art a fan did, which journalists over exaggerated and blew up. At that point most people have had the association that>Marathon = bad & evilWith other live service games coming out and completely flopping, it created the perfect storm where most people looked to Marathon to be the next big flop, and basically deluded themselves into a fervor hoping that it fails at all costs. All kinds of random excuses were thrown out to shit on the game with all of them not really making any sense but being enough to convince the average person to just stay away from the game.
>>570052778>no pve/bot mode to let people have fun with the game without being raped by campers and stacks>got farmed by ecelebs for The Next Tortanic(tm) views>some weird feud between it and that other game destiny pouring oil into the fireIf only they had a normal mode people could just it wouldn't have been as bad.
>>570053265the game is far too sweaty for most people right now.
>>570052778>extraction shooter/apex legends kinda gamyou just said the problem right there. Bungie spent the last 5 years working on an extremely niche video game with a very small audience instead of something that appeals to more people.
hmmm
>Destiny 2 is 88% off>still $25.63sheesh
>>570053871>and basically deluded themselves into a fervor hoping that it fails at all costs.It did doe
>>570054327You get a lot of game, but not very much good game.
>>570054294marathon doesn't need chuddy cucks thoughbeit
I'm enjoying this game on the free trial but can you guys just shoot me straight - how cucked am I going to be if I prefer to use a controller? I don't like KB+M for FPS games and have always used a controller because its more comfy for me, but typically in these kinds of games using a controller puts you at such a massive disadvantage. Destiny actually felt pretty good on controller though.
>>570054480Controller is basically an aimbot
>>570054439yeah...Also I heard that they just straight up patched out the story so what reason is there for a new person to join at this point when the game is now dead and there's no story to keep you engaged?
>>570053871People still insisting that it's Concord 3 is like the Japanese soldier that kept fighting after WW2.You lost, just move on man. Kek.
>>570054053Didn't we just get a pve/bot mode?
>>570054480Controller is OP, you're actually nerfing yourself with KB+M
>>570054681They got rid of the original launch campaign and a handful of the DLC stories that came after. Unfortunately, these were replaced by a hollowed out D1 intro. You can play a bunch of DLC campaigns from Shadwokeep onwards, but since they also remove the seasonal stories that came between DLCs, the campaigns jump almost nonsensically from one to the next. And now that the game is going to be left in this state permanently, I would suggest you save your money.
>>570054480bungie for all their fuckups has basically mastered balancing kbm with controller. Both are fine.
>made a thief miss final exfil by hassling her at the same POI in the final minute then dipping at 30s >see her die like 100m from where I got out
Bungie rotate the fucking Traxus sponsored kit into the store, it's the only Sentinal skin I have left to get
>>570052778>apex legendsYou forgot Valorant. And that is the issue with the game, it plays too much like Apex, and it has a guy in the lead who was working on Valorant. Other than that? >>570054053 this anon got it.
>>570055509Sentinel ain't going anywhere man, you got time
>>570055503>thiefHate that bitch when she is in the team.
>>570054681A lot of what they cut out from the base game/early expansions was utter junk. The problem is that the story has always built off of them. A lot of people who paid for the game early feel rightfully aggrieved about losing out on a game they bought, while new players don't even get a proper catchup story.There *are* catch up stories, they're just not a 100% replacement. But really, you get so much good game for $25. Its ridiculous its that cheap.
>>570055998It's nothing like Apex except having a couple of abilities on cooldown and being first person. I can see the game pivoting to that with freekit only modes though.
>launched s2 and a free week without a full pve modewhy do they not do the needful???
>>570056739pve is for weaklings
>>570056675There's a lot of sub-zone design, consumables, etc. that're extremely 'of' Battle Royales, especially Apex. If you did worse with the art-design, a lot of buildings would fit right into most Apex maps.
>lost my key template because yet again the recon drone fails to actually engage properly
>>570056858i just wanna bask in the setting and environ and world without dealing with pvp niggersif only for a free weekend ;^3don't worry, this isn't surviving without a hard further pivot to catering to people like meand it's up in the air as to whether it'd even do much to revive things or change prospects about the lights staying on at bungovored game btw
>>570057457parasites like you are what's killing it
>>570057538you're welcome
>>570057457When was the last time you played D2, other than today of course?
Having fun in free week playing solo but I cannot for the life of me win in PvP. Not looking forward to sponsored survival going away.>>570056739Sponsored Survival was defacto PvE since no one queued as rook for it
>>570057674i've never played d2 or the first game because destiny is frankly embarrassing science fiction in an even more embarrassing setting>>570057753not good enough
Yeah I fell for the scam hard gg bungo ig. First few hours were great, lots of fun with the homies, good fights. Decided what the heck and bought the game. Every match since is either instant headshots from 2 miles away or people with aim so cracked in cqb idk why they aren't going pro in a better game. Probably because tourneys don't allow cheats. Pretty clear they heavily weight F2P lobbies with other F2Ps to hide how shit and unbalanced this game actually is.
Is this dude STILL fucking going?
>>570056675Its like Apex when it comes to gameplay. I watched a video of it.
Congratulations Destiny 3, almost 400k players!
>>570057926Play better
>>570059152Destiny players be like>Why didn't grandma include me in her will?? I was there when she died!
Am I getting better at the game or did I just happen to encounter two shitters?>get in hauler as sentinel> place a snare mine in one room I am looting>thief runs in and gets snared I knife her down and start looting>place another mine>another thief runs in and gets knifed down. None of that felt high speed and I didn't shit my pants and fumble the kills. I think I need to get better at player counting too. Like if I eliminate two players on Perimeter, how many would theoretically be left?
>>570059164I'd say show stats cuz guarantee you're trash but even a kda tracker was too much for Bungie to handle adding to their "competitive shooter". Enjoy ur dying game tho kek.
>>570059531You did well, but it's likely also because nobody expects sentinel's sticky mines. They're not widespread enough to make people be careful.So gg, that's on you.
>>570057857Okay so your opinion is completely worthless.
>>570059587Thanks for the money, now piss off.
>>570059816you're right and bungo doesn't need me or anyone else playing their dogshit games, quite clearly
>>570059816don't feed trolls
Does anyone here know what's up with that leaver you can press in Complex next to a window? Is that for a contract or something?
>>570060063only one getting fed here is glorious snoy once they gobble up bungo for good
One thing I maybe missed from the intro: the UESC Marathon was this colony ship that travelled to Tau Ceti IV and this was clearly enough of an endeavour that they had to send a whole ass colony shipHow are *we* (as in Runners/Shells and the UESC bots) getting to the colony, in that case? Has tech advanced in the meantime to the point where we can just FTL travel there? Or is it like, we're remote viewing into the colony using the shells that are already present on site?>>570060231god those frames are so inflated they're ready to detonate
>>570052740Gaped.
>>570060319Yeah travel time got quicker in those 300 years and the technology that allows shells to beam up and down. It took the UESC ship 90 years to get there though.
Holy fuck the playercount has been plummeting
>>570060926why wouldn't it be?
unironically, bungo adding a full PvE mode would just make things with this community worse. they should just go all-in on the PvP and add an arena shooter mode with ranked, and modes and maps. you got extraction shooter, then arena shooter with a bunch of modes in it. let people experience without having to wait for a group or go in solo.bungie is so fucked holy shit.
>>570060991The rate is even worse than season 1 to the point where there wasn't even a weekend bump. I didn't think season 2 would be this much of a bloodbath
when does the free week end?
>four measly maps>couldn't be fucked to have them be procedurally assembled each time they're played so that you aren't looting shit out of the exact same boxes in the exact same locations minutes laterwhat's up with this minimum viable product lowest possible effort game design shit
So are some of the weapons just not in the loop this season, or are the ones that are appearing (the overrun ar, the volt thrower, the retaliator) just much easier to obtain through free kits and the like
>>570061297It's Destiny's vigil, anon. Everyone's going there for one last hurrah.
>>570049031They need to lay an entirely new foundation anyfuckingway. Even if they don't go with D3, they should have had fucking SOMETHING other than this sack of shit for the players to go to.
>>570050180We can see Marathon's rev numbers. We don't have exact figures but they're worse than destiniy's.
>>570061679>Even if they don't go with D3As decided by bungie and sony.
>>570060319>Took 400ish years for the Marathon to arrive at Tau Ceti>At the end of the third game Duradel sent a message to Earth warning/send help to Marathon and Tau Ceti from the Pfhor threat in the three first games.>Takes the UESC a 100 years to arrive at Tau Ceti >During this 100 years, in the first 30 to 40 years, possible a little more the Colonists start to go insane/die and are abducted by Pfhor. Colonists fought off the first invasion 20 years after Marathon arrived and five years later they came back and killed all the Security Officers like the one we played in the first three games leaving colonists vaunrable>25 years after UESC arrive the factions from Earth and Mars arrive, literally piggy backing off of UESC ships above Tau Ceti to teleport Runners in and figure out what the fuck is going on.
>Why did they drop destiny?>Why did they drop destiny?Well why did they drop Halo? A game much bigger than even Destiny was?
>>570061972they never should havebungie went to shit as soon as it decoupled from gaylo and microsoftthey actually thought they were too good for it all and it's fucking pathetic what they've now become
>>570057538Relax pal, everybody's leaving on Thursday and it will just be a few thousand butt-buddies playing the game as Bungie intended.
>>570051078First and most important is that the game is oriented towards trio play, and you really need yourself a team. It's a UESC base. Collect keys. Learn your key colors. Print that shit out for now and put it on a card next to you., The big loot box is Pinwheel. Learn the rest of the map before going for pinwheel. Consider learning to just fuck up other people's extractions while you learn the basics.
>rook suicide drones me in the last few seconds of the run>our triage wasted his reboot moments prior>lost a purple key and he didn't even get it>contract just wanted me to exfilWherever you are, kill yourself
>>570051972The real move for bungie is to switch marathon dev to a minimal crew and work fulltime on a new game. A compelling full pve mode for this game is probably going to be in the AAA cost range anyways. Given their mindset now, they still want to feed the PVE people to the PVP people somehow for content somehow. Solo cryo works against that.
>>570052159Bungie is incredibly bloated, wasteful and incompetent and has been ditching their productive employees for stupid slugs. They spent millions of dollars fighting hair racisim, even created a grant for the Ivy League to study it for a million..
>>570052740Morbillions of dollars spent. >>570053265Arrogance. And most of the devs don't play or like this game.
>>570054294LOL. You must REALLY hate marathon.
>>570061540Name a multiplayer extraction shooter with procgen maps. 60% of the genre is map knowledge.
>>570062964Most people posting here do
>>570062534>switch marathon dev to a minimal crew and work fulltime on a new gameDo this before the amount of devs outnumbers the active players and it gets really embarrassing.
>>570054784You're not serious are you? This is the biggest fucking fiscal failure in the entire industry this year. It lost more money than two Highguards, and is losing more every month. The new season launch is nothing short of a fucking disaster.
>>570062534>The real move for bungie is to switch marathon dev to a minimal crew and work fulltime on a new gamelol any game that is not Destiny will get held hostage by the mentally defunct Destiny community.
I can see bungie voluntarily shutting down just to get away from its fanbase.If I was Pete Parsons I would have sold the studio to some chinese overlord.
I like RPing as a particular faction and this season I was going to RP as a Sekuguchi corporate goon or whatever. How would they even act though? I know Arachne is obviously "MURDER MURDER MURDER" but how would a Sekuguchi hired goon runner behave like?
>>570060991>>570061634Given how different the games are I woudln't expect overlap.
>>570063020that's faggot shitearnest competitiveness should stem from improvisation and on-the-fly learning and fluency with game systems as opposed to rote map memorizationpvpniggers wouldn't know earnest challenge if it ate them limb by limb
>>570063291I've never seen a game company get ruined as badly as Bungie did with their community and the content creators constantly cranking out Doom Pilled videos constantly for over six years give or take. Really ramped up and kept ramping up after Lightfall
>>570063309>Sekgen>How about you murder yourself so we can see how much stress and violation our shells can take?>Traxus>Murder UESC specifically please, as much as you can, you can kill others too so long you hurt UESC
>>570063493kek okay champ, so what multiplayer games do you play with procgen maps?
I'm glad I have other places to talk about this game
>>570063661vidya is shitwhy would i play it?
>>570063584I do hope Bungie gets shut down and that the Destiny IP rots forever in Sony's japanese dungeons. That fanbase deserves less than nothing
>>570063104Sony is known for being incredibly generous and keeping up projects that keep losing money.Hell, I'm glad that you know exactly how much money the game makes, and how much the dev team costs. Well blasted!
>>570063742>tranime imageI accept your concession
is the stated plan for season 5 (lmao) not an admission that their goal is to try and bring everything back into a state more in line with what christopher barrett had in mind?what a botchjob
>>570064265They're trying to turn the boat around just how they did with Destiny, which also had an abysmal start and was bleeding players like crazy. Destiny just had the grace period, coming from Halo.
>teehee we're still feeling out everything with experimental modes™ thanks for your patience and understanding while we learn what this game will be ;^)le z*egler faec
>>570064732>>teehee we're still feeling out everything with experimental modes™That's 12 years of Destiny, anon
>>570065047wouldn't know, never played either of the piece of shit destiny games and i pity those who did or do
>>570063138It's not the destiny community that's causing marathon to fail anon. >>570063852Your desperate strawman ignores that we actually have fairly good figures on Marathon's fiscal performance. It's the undisputed fiscal bomb of the year, losing more so far than the next 2 or contenders' entire budget combined.
>>570062964>multiplayer game needs players ???
>>570065301Yeah I could tell from you using outdated retard internet lingo like "le"
>>570065684cucky chud lies this is game of the year already
>>570063736where? you better not say reddit
>>570063606>>Traxus>>Murder UESC specifically please, as much as you can, you can kill others too so long you hurt UESCIs dunking on UESC an okay thing to do or do most of them really not drop much? I actually like shooting robots but do you ever really gain much? I know its a giant beacon for getting players to come your direction but if I am solo, I don't really care.
>>570065678>It's not the destiny community that's causing marathon to fail anon.You really think moving on to yet another project, that is not Destiny, would be a smart move, anon? Have you not seen this community?
Why did bungie get such an unusual community?
>>570066008I'm hoping for some future update, you go around killing UESC bots and then the Security Officer who can punch Compilers with his bare hands just tears through the entire map like a neutron bomb.
>>570066008>Is dunking on UESC an okay thing to do or do most of them really not drop much?UESC is not popular. Traxus, I think the game says, is their biggest competitor and second largest faction after them.According to the Anti-Caution skins lore, they also run a private army for settling things outside of courtrooms. Anti-Caution being the name of Traxus' elite group.
>>570066315banished the chuddy cucks only troons and lgbtqxyzbbq black/latinx allies are allowed
>>570066202The smart move is to give the frothing horde something that you can make some goddam money on, based on whatever budget that supports, regardless of what you call it, rather than pissing them off. But it's not like there's some Paul Tassi server death squad that will explode marathon servers if they don't get their demands met.
>>570060319UESC discovered FTL travel after the Marathon colony collapsed, which is why they’re finally able to intervene. But they keep the FTL tech proprietary. This is why their logistics are seemingly so much more advanced and competent.Corpos have to make do with less efficient tech. And with legal jargon preventing them from sending robots, they sent the worm bioprinters that they then beam data to create runner shells on-site. Same goes with runners themselves. Easy to transmit data at light speed as opposed to actual physical objects. We get downloaded to whatever ship the corpos sent to orbit the colony, and from there our “game” begins. We run, die, get reprinted all in orbit on this manufacturing platform that finally arrived at Tau Ceti some time after the UESC but just in time for the [REDACTED]
>>570066571why are bunguloids so deranged???
>>570066315>>570066506They're post gender now. Transexual isn't progressive enough.
>>570066571>The smart move is to give the frothing horde something that you can make some goddam money on, based on whatever budget that supports, regardless of what you call it, rather than pissing them off.The smart move would be for players to not tie themselves emotionally to a live service product or studio, thinking they're your "friend" or "allies" and then become disillusioned when the service ends or the product is shut down.
>>570066641Why doesn't UESC just blow up the printing ships?
>>570066713post-human post-gender post-racial>oh shit i'm a runner in marathon
>>570066782Because lawyers back on earth.
I was under the impression that we were piggybacking off of the UESC's orbital infrastructure?
>>570066750Hey, if you want to go volunteer to be a Destiny psych counselor, you're a braver man than I am gunga din. But Bungie is in the biz of selling games and selling digital products. These fucks want a digital product. It's really not a reach to think they might make something that people want to fucking buy and play, more than this shit.
>>570066893You have my condolences anon. A pro tip. Register your dick as a weapon in the US and take advantage of their Second Amendment laws to protect your genital sovereignty. SEE RED LEAVE BLUE...BALLS>
>>570066008If you target Commanders (purple shields) and Wardens (goldies), you can get some nice stuff out of them. However, its not a guarantee. In any case, the higher you go, the more likely you will get something decent out of it (like golden keys).
thank you bungo for making a game that affirms my agp
>>570067234How hard are wardens to kill solo?
>>570066893Imagine waking up in a plastic body with Barbie-Doll genitals.I'd also want to join Arachne and vent my frustration.
Twin Tap seems pretty solid with the changes
>>570066782The corpos are backing the UESC while also engaging in their shadowy corporate 7-way war.Everyone is fucking everyone but no one can actually take decisive action since everyone still needs everyone else, except for MIDA but those cunts are like weeds.
I really like the lore of this game, more than Destiny's. That's because on one hand over the past decade I lost interest in space opera sci-fi like Destiny was, but also because really dropped the ball with at the end of Destiny's life.
>>570067572Does it feel consistent for you? Skill issue on my part perhaps, the recoil seems off.
My astrology reading was right about the game, it never can get a community, thats just the stars
>no BLM triage skinwhat's stopping them?
Perhaps talk the destiny talk to /dg/ where it belongs.
>>570068574He's a robot
if you combine /dg/ and /mg/ you get /dmg/.... on 4chan.... /dmg/ 4chan...holy fuck
>>570068679maybe it's because george droid is already one of the most outlandishly racist caricatures ever put into a game as-is
What about algae as well?
why didn't they give triage a bone piercing through his nose way to drop the ball bungo
>>570068947I thought you couldn't loot anything in algae or complex?
why doesn't vandal have a knee-length dick and cantaloupe sized balls clad in a great big glistening pouch between her legs flopping around as she runs?did they not want this shit to sell?
>>570063309doing weird shit to evolve or push limits of game or yourself.engage with other runners by helping them, then attack or run awaysnipers at close rangesnipe with shotgunsice mines for the thrills
>>570068187It's felt consistent so far, maybe one encounter it was iffy but that was like at the tail end of its maximum range so I was probably not getting full damage off.
>>570046254how long until the destiny whiners stop?
>>570067369Depends. If you can find a nice place to camp and shoot consistently at bastard - because they regen shields and some have bullshit like barrier shield, or heat/fire wake/aoe when melee, or toxin - you can deal with them relatively safely unless you get killed by another runner.
People are getting bolder with their keys. Just had two other runners open two key rooms. Both were plundered when I got there, only blues and greens were left.
I'd like to see more faction skins for weapons. Not just recolors, something fancy, that changes the base model of the gun a bit. I want Arachne-based ritual weapons, Traxus-based heavy-duty power-tools etc.
>>570069718I'm having fun playing the game
>>570061860Wait the protagonist of Marathon 1-infinity is dead? Guy was practically a living god by the end and iirc you fuck off from Tau Ceti in 2
>>570071374No. There were 9 other battleroids like the Officer who are currently MIA.It's just as likely that the more supernatural issues that plagued the colony are the 9 unaccounted for battleroids also going through the same kind of apotheosis that the Security Officer did in close proximity to one another without a unspeakable evil to focus on.Assuming of course Infinity is still canon.
>>570063661Deep Rock Galactic
>>570071927Man, I really wish this game was doing better so we'd get more story content. Would be cool seeing the Pfhor come back and start wrecking havoc
>>570072170Likewise. Really interesting setting and story.
>already level 54I think they made leveling too easy honestly. Kind of worried about hitting the 70-80 bracket and being thrown into the rape fields.
>>570072320Runner level or cradle level?
>>570071927I thought that at the end of Marathon 1 or maybe somewhere in Marathon 2 it was said that the 9 other Battleroids fought off the invasion no problem, but the Pfhor came back and glassed the place?
>>570072670Runner level. Cradle is like 28 or 29.
>>570072320LOL. Look around you anon. You ARE in the rape fields already.
What games are there that give that extraction shooter looting feel that aren't PvP? I'm tired of getting blasted by other people.
>>570073409you could try the forever winter but fundog keeps dropping the ball with it pretty hard
>>570073090But I'm raping people?
I've been trying the game from the free play week and man this game feels like it could've been a bit more, like if it had a better director it'd have more punch. It basically feels like a B-tier videogame, a decent game that could be amazing with a few quality additions. The tutorial intro alone feels uninspired and phoned in. Believe in your projects you damn cucks.
>>570072723They returned with Tycho, who is noticeably absent from literally everything, and sacked the place. The new game notable infers that either that didn't happen or they didn't do a complete job since colony records you collect are dated AFTER the second attack.
>>570073576I feel like I'm probably just better off playing survival games in single player or PvE servers for that feel. I've noticed 7 Days to Die and Conan Exiles feel okay for that while still being pretty relaxed.
>>570073576I bought that day 1 and it's very pretty and the aesthetic is peak but it's a glorified art project, feels like I just donated 30 bucks to their ko-fi. Road to Vostok is probably better for that kind of autism or just buying SPT.
>>570073409Come back in like 6 months, they're most likely going to rework Marathon to be a pve looter shooter. Its basically their only way forward at this point since the current PvP design is immensely unpopular.
>>570074593>since the current PvP design is immensely unpopular.But I like shanking people
Has Thief always been barefoot?
>>570075358You want those cold, metal feet on your cock, anon?
>>570075358Assassin has their dogs out with the all white outfit
I want the free 2 poors to quit. And no more sponsored dogshit mode
>>570076073ok enjoy your dead game and long queue times
>>570076143Game was better without extra shitters
>Marathon players are so raped that they actively wish for less players at this stage.It's like someone with stockholm syndrome developing a love for their captor's abuse.
>>570076397>cater to only mebitch shit
>streamers and grinders already VIP with every faction and max cradle>bungie nerfs everything afterwardsLMAOOOOOOOO you can't make this shit up.
>>570077053first bungo game?
>>570076968I don't like good games getting casualized. I hate Casuals more, than I hate Niggers
>>570077537So kill yourself and you won't have to deal with the stupid shit you made up to get mad at.
>>570077537>How DARE people be newretard
>>570077674I'm not a tranny
all you had to do was put a full pve facet in the bag bungo
>>570077761>muh tranny obsessionbitch shit
>>570077894No one will ever believe you're a woman
>>570078136>still deflectingbitch shit. kill yourself.
>>570066326This shit made me laugh so hard if I was God I'd vaporize whoever is in charge at Bungie and put you in charge of creative direction instead.
Now that they killed Destiny, I can see them adding a proper PvE mode to this game to bring in the refugees from Destiny
>>570078263Nigger faggot
>>570077825>full pve fHang yourself PvE shitter
>>570078595only one hanging themselves here is bungo but maybe you'd be inclined to join them as well
>>570078710bodied him kek
>>570078595lmao cry little bitch. pve is coming and theres nothing you can do to stop it.
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO SUBJECT YOURSELF TO MY NIGGERY I CAN'T HAVE FUN UNLESS I'M CLUBBING SEALS BUNGO WHAT THE FUCKthey will, by degrees, fashion this game into something more congruent with my tastesand i will still not play it unless it's freeand perhaps not even then
>>570078889PvE Marathon will die even at F2P, because me and everyone else will move to GTA6 and MW4I did enjoy the game while it's PvP
>GTA6god i hope that game flops. overhyped shit
>>570079182Duskbloods could be good
>>570079302>>GTA6>god i hope that game flopsF2poors who refused to buy Marathon, will get jobs at McDonalds, just to buy GTA6
>>570079182>GTA6isnt that game gonna be like one terabyte on its own? who's actually gonna be able to play that shit?
It cannot be stated enough how badly Marathon flopped. I mean it is probably the biggest flop of the year, not even saying that lightly or to get (you)s.Marathon was perfectly primed to capture a lot of market share. >No big FPS games releasing the entirety of March to now>Every other extraction shooter was old >Arc Raiders was full of cheaters and hackers, people bored with it and ready to move onto a new gameReleases and it kinda does bad numbers. Bad for the size of its budget and devs working on it, but it happens, S2 will save it. Then the timing is even better>Arc Raiders goes on maintenance mode TWO(2) updates a yearThis is the perfect time, F2P, S2 no other games. Surely it will blow up now? Nope. Somehow flops even harder than release. A mere week later with F2P on, it can't crack 20k. Oof. It will only get harder from here on out too. More direct competitors, extraction shooters, will be releasing, GTA 6, other big games that will take up the gamers attention as they release. This was their one shot, nothing was in their way but they blew it.
>>570080198b-but we played a lot of tarkov in the office why don't people like this too.........
>>570080198>source: my ass
>>570057753dude a rook stabbed me and got me one hit away from death in that mode at exfil and i only got saved because i had a purple kkv and he moved in a straight line. i was playing alone
>>570080198>nothing was in their wayretard, I could tell marathon was dead on arrival from the start. It told the entire existing fanbase to fuck off by being pvpslop and burying everything that made the original games charming and interesting, then it told the entire modern audience by being yet another extractionslop when they're a dime a dozen. I'm stunned bungie greenlit this without seeing this obvious foregone conclusion.
>>570079919>who's actually gonna be able to play that shit?Every consolefag with a Series S, Series X, and Ps5. Everyone will buy it
>>570081124>It told the entire existing fanbase to fuck off by being pvpWho did this? It's very respectable, hats off. Suck my dick sissies
>>570081345how does z*egler's microcock taste bro?
>>570073595And guess what happens if you fall behind or let up for just ONE fucking second?
>>570057753>Not looking forward to sponsored survival going away.Looking forward to playing with you in Standard PvP modes. You sound sweet and tender, built for me to enjoy
>>570081191It'll have to be the ONLY game installed on thier systems, effectively making GTA6 a $500 dollar game at the cheaptest
>>570081345Sometimes I think about the timeline where Bungie pulled a Doom 2016 and made an awesome singleplayer game that pays homage to the originals while bringing their modern gamefeel experience into it and that shit sells like hot cakes and saves the studio, I just know the market was primed for that. Instead they just chased trends into a hole.Hopefully they sell the IP to someone who can do that when Bungie shuts down.
>>570081427Nothing because getting gear in this game is stupid easy when you stop being afraid of taking your purple shields out of your vault?
>>570081629could you fucking imagine mang2026 fidelity battleroid romp through a fucking pfhor legion with bombastic guns and metal-knuckled fists with a hyperalloy skeleton underneath
>>570053871>Most of these people didn't actually play the original gamesI would bet good money that people who were interested in Marathon because it was an extraction shooter didn't play them eitherThe issue is that Bungie is primarily known for making low/no stakes PvE co-op experiences (even Halo MP is so casual is doesn't really feel that competitive), and they hard switch to an incredibly niche, sweaty, hardcore PvP genre. Of course people are upset, it's a complete 180 on the very audience you've cultivated for over 20 years. It's legitimately baffling the game wasn't designed with a PvE component from the get go
People are going to have to accept that the game isn't for them and unless it was doing gangbusters numbers it wasn't ever going to make Bungie solvent. Go play fucking Destiny if you want a mediocre SciFi shooter so bad, the PvE experiment has basically been ran and it's shown that it can't coexist with the extraction shooter loot pool because it just gets abused. Sponsored mode w/ PvP is a better solution than the shit they're putting out right now, it was low stakes but also a decent way to get back on your feet. Make it the green free kits instead of the grey and you have a better solution than "PvP-lite" where you have to hope someone decides to play rook into a gamemode that has none of the perks of playing rook.
>>570081629>modern gamefeel experience into it and that shit sells like hot cakesNobody ever gave a fuck about Marathon, no one heard of it. Doom 2016 sold because it's DOOM, not because it's a "single player modern shooter"Nobody would buy that if they didn't see Doomslayer and cocademons
>>570082254>the PvE experiment has basically been ran and it's shown that it can't coexist with the extraction shooter loot pool because it just gets abused.pve mode is coming prepare your bussy
>>570082254sorry chuddy cuck full pve is literally the only thing that has any hope at all of keeping the lights on at bungo
>>570082254rook in sponsored mode was so poorly conceived, no one is playing that shit
I've been into video games since 2005, I finished Game Boy, PS2, Ps3, X360, Xbox One, PS4, PS5 games.Never heard of Marathon until 2026
>>570082567you'll like it if thinking of yourself as the opposite sex makes your bits tingle
>>570082628I meant I've never heard of the franchise, so a Doom-like single player game would probably not sell.Why are you gay.
>>570083228why aren't you?
>>570083273Because I only like women and Maratroons
>>570083404whammen are gay
Will Marathon eventually add the ability to move to other zones from within the map like in Tarkov?
>>570050847Outpost used to be the most mechanically complex map before Cryo Archive opened. On it, many things, including some exfils, are locked and need key cards to access. There are 3 types of key cards you can find on it:>Green: spawn on tables all over PoIs, randomized.>Yellow: spawn as devices that can be found on tables and walls, randomized. You get the card, you need to interact with it, which will make a short alarm.>Red: spawn in 4 predetermined beacon locations, constant. Make a loud alarm and a beam of red light into the sky when opening. You can also loot them off of commanders.List of what I remember that requires key cards. There is a weird device near every locked mechanism that shows what it needs.>Locked exfil - 1 red (no regular ones in Outpost, only these and guarded)>Pinwheel main access - 2 green (get ready to defend yourself while the Pinwheel is being breached)>Cargo drop (like on other maps) - 1 green 1 yellow>Armory rooms (there are 3 on the map in total) - 1 green 2 yellow>Pinwheel treasury - 3 redYou can also get into the Pinwheel through the drone wing and destroyed wing. For the drone wing, you'll need a conveyance key, which spawn randomly in a certain area. Using it in the terminal in a white NuCal building under drone wing will call down a very loud and very slow elevator. Another option of destroyed wing. It's locked by a force field, and you need to find 5 red generators and destroy them to enter.Inside Pinwheel, there is good loot and lots of bots. If you used the main entrance, bots will keep respawning, but there is a button left of the console above the central room that disables that. There is also the command wing, which is locked. To enter it, you need to go to the last rooms of the other 2 wings, find the buttons there (always the same location, look it up) and press them. Each command room will have UESC spawn, but only on the first visit.
>>570084367no, chudgo have a blast
>>570083647Not as gay as the beggars asking for no PvP
>>570084604aww yeah mystery meat mestizo mutts r* certainly knows its audience gob bless america
>>570084604>askingits coming
>>570053265It clearly did.
>>570084732America is the best country, Marathon is the best PvP game
>>570085070The only thing coming is my dick in your ass
>>570073409Gray Zone Warfare is really fun
>No PvP>FunJust admit you like movie games
>>570073887This is probably an alternate timeline
>>570081035I've only met a rook once in the 30+ times I've run it, mostly running solo too
>20k peak for marathonlmao
>>570061972That was a mistake as well.Destiny was a step down from what they were doing with Halo in many respects, but one that still captured a large audience and retained them by scratching an itch for some people with the fps/live-service/looter-shooter model that nothing else really did.Now they've jumped ship again, but this time blatantly trend-chasing the extraction genre with Marathon, and they've failed to even hook a significant audience this time around.They've substantively been carried by a formula of gunplay they'd refined in 2007. But after blundering for almost 20 years, the bones of Halo 3 just aren't enough anymore.
taking a mara break, i dun did a lit mara thon>>570084486ty
>PvE>not fun
>>570086019YOU ARE A SUBHUMAN SISSY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN SEAL CLUBBING PLEASE BUNGO SAVE US FROM THE CASUALS AAAAA
I do unironically like the refocus to having a heavier barter economy and I hope they don't just change this in S3.
>>570066702why does paul tassi have such provocatively full lips? and is tassi a euphemism for something among the homesexual community?
yeah 20k comfy pop really having a blast now wow
>>570087412>give you a quick tassi for a twenty frfr
>>570053871Bungo is a woke cancerous studio that deserves hell for ruining D1 legacy with the trash that was D2
It's a very good game, when playing for fun(kills)
So what is the point of Silk if you have nothing to spend it on past level 60 something?You still earn it but if you've been spending it then you've already bought everything in the pass by then.
>>570088563damn they really give out six figure salaries to come up with some of the fugliest vidya characters ever conceived and alternate renditions of how awful they look?
>>570088674I though the game looks like indie shit made by 10 devs, when I saw gameplay footage.But the combat it so good, I started to like the visuals, because of the outstanding gameplay.
>>570088653the only point is that you can accumulate a bit of excess silk to unlock several things in the next season's passalternatively they might add more to the current pass partway through the season, but they probably only did that in season 1 because of backlash over how bad the rewards were
>>570088653They added stuff halfway last season but yeah thats all you can spend it on
>recon drone only reliably works on bots I want to fucking laugh at how dogshit this fucking thing is and I will keep posting about it every time I see it do fucking NOTHING against another player.
>>570089461I assumed it only overheats other players. Is it supposed to damage anyone other than the bots?
>>570090060It does do damage but it's the tracking that is so fucking retarded against players. You could throw it at a dude in the other room and it would just get caught on the door frame and circle it five times and explode without actually damaging them at all
*unsheathes*Feast your eyes on the demonic cock
now that sponsored marsh is over people are bringing their ill gotten gains into outpost to donate to better and more honest players, it warms my heart
blast status?
i need help /mg/what is the point of re-earning the same loot every season? i love the gameplay, but why the wipe? i dont think gameplay alone here can keep me. i have had this feeling every time i steal or kill my way into a new gun or core, like "i cant wait to try this! oh yeah even if i like end up liking it will just poof...."what's the point here? even the cradle resets, right? i think im done. why should i stay?
>>570090781goodbye
>>570090781only the most masochistic, smelly, chuddy cucks shall survive
I thought they fixed the vault but it's still full constantly and I already am hoarding the guns I want
alright I bought this shit now what
>>570090869contact support for a refund
>>570090781the fun part is improving your skills and having your loot scale along with that
>>570090330Does that thief skin have different voice lines? If yes, could you record them?
Sony should keep the game F2P. Don't cut-off anyone after June 11th.If someone bought the game, during "Open week", just gift them 1,100 Lux and 2 Deluxe kits to use in-game. Would be stupid to kick people out now.Everyone with a brain knows, that every (((consumer))) will only play Wolverine(!), Modern Warfare 4 and GTA this fall. No point in kicking anyone out of Marathon this summer.
>>570091016I play with voicelines and music off, to hear only footsteps and gunshots. I can tune it up and record it.There's no demon Thief gameplay on Youtube? Is the game so dead, nobody knows if voicelines are different ;-D
>>570091003yeah, it was fun. but i did that, and it will be the same loot. what do i do now, just create endless fuckery loadouts to shit on people new to the game, thus ensuring no one will pick it up? i mean ive done that a few times, and it's funny as a but for the first 3 times, but it gets old quick, and there's only so much ranked has to offer.this game doesnt offer anything outside of a two week period each season, at which point everything resets, invalidating everything you did the previous season, forcing you to re-earn the same guns and cores you already played with and acquired previously.im not here for esports recognition or to start a content creation side-hussle, im here to have fun and right now that fun is fleeting and comes at the expense of my time and my agency.
>>570091245Looking small, pup.
>>570091449Shut up gojoslut
>>570091432well yes it would be better if they made new maps and stuff instead of chasing casuals
>>570091432You don't like extraction shooters.
>>570091404Are you still using studio reference for your audio mixing?
>>570091245vegan hand
I kind of wish there was more crap to pick up as weird as that sounds. I want new salvage types or even a new item class idk.
>>570090781Wipes are just an excuse for lack of late game loop design. Extraction shooters do it just because Tarkov did it temporarily though it was never intended with full 1.0 release, it was always meant as a stopgap measure for early access. Tarkov is now switching over to permanent PvP characters, as well as seasonal characters that have unique variators, much like seasons in Path of Exile or Diablo 4There's a lot to like about Marathon, but also a baffling amount of incompetence. Why does it rely on wipes? Why are there only 4 maps on release? Why was there no PvE mode planned from the start? 6 years in development but what feels like little to show for it
>>570091245Based blast haver
if John Casual hasn't already forgotten about this game, the stacked fall game releases will do it, on top of the other more content-enriched live services Marathon is suppose to be competing against.picking extraction shooter of all genres and then focusing on making it le hardcore competitive was a mistake and a half
>>570093576>but we had a lot of fun with playing tarkov in the office...>how could this happen....?
why isn't bungo crowdfunding a star citizen competitor???
Night Marsh is fun AND profitable!
>>570094064You are literally built to be a loot pinata for me
>>570090330>>570091016>Does that thief skin have different voice lines?Demon voicehttps://streamable.com/f75jqn
>>570094221I killed a guy looting a key room for all of this.
My pickpocket is eagerrr. You rrrike it?https://files.catbox.moe/illfi3.mp4
>>570094470I kill teams within key rooms, bully them out of bubble shields. I'm too powerful
>>570091871I have it set to headphones, with these numbers. I can hear runner movement from a long distance.
>>570094715I'll fuck around on a freekit and see how it sounds.
Apparently the game has enough budget greenlight up to season 4. Ziegler said that they want to finalize the PvE experimentation by that season by fully implementing a complete new mode. I think they will relaunch the game as f2p for season 5 (1 year anniversary) and if that also flopa they will just put the game in maint. What I think is funny is that all this is doing is getting the game closer to Christopher Barret's vision, after he got fired Ziegler got tasked to downscale the project because Sony and Bungie deemed a lite-mmo extraction shooter with big overworld events as too costly.
>no doors or metal floors>no visuals>no pings>long range>still knows where you are
>>570096010>What I think is funnyThat I effortlessly raped away thousands. I shoved my dick in their face and didn't even break a sweat
>>570096010Barret's only "vision" was trying to look up girls' skirts.
>>570096157Yeah but that's like a good chunk of 90s developers. Just look at Blizzard.
>>570096082Seeing how infested online games are with cheaters I'm confident it boils down to two possibilities:>companies ignore them because they are useful ie matchmaking fuckery>companies must ignore them because they are a sizeable chunk of their paybases
>Recon doesn't get a Vox Nocturna skinMan.
>youtube keeps throwing Marathon videos on me because it knows I play the game>almost all have sub 5k viewsit's remarkable how nobody gives a fuck about the game
Looking at player retention over the f2p period I think we will hold around 15k until the mid-season update for whatever weird pve mode they will introduce and that might give another little boost until S3. I think casuals need that floor as long as the loot is either restricted to that mode a la SPT or gear from that is heavily scaled to factor for no player threats.
>>570096694>Seeing how infested online games are with cheatersI think a sizeable chunk of cheaters are just nerds who are crazy good. They've practiced each map and gun so many times, they use everything in the game, including sound, almost perfectly. For example, 93% of Warzone battle royale players don't have a win. How many of that top 7% are cheaters? It's a big f2p game, and less than 7% are cheating. The reason is, you need two(2) beefy PCs to run undetectable cheats. You will get banned if you run cheaper cheats, that are possible to detect.
>>570097510I don't see a point in gear restrictions to be honest. PVP fag gets completely wasted? Well be my guest and grind. Loaded PVE fag decides to hop in and stomp noobs? Matchmaking will make sure he gets farmed in a few games.
>>570097170>it's remarkable how nobody gives a fuck about the gameFrom a Youtube/content side of things, yeah, Marathon has nothing going for it. There's no content to be made. All these Youtubers and streamers can do is upload videos of them stomping free kits with their gold kits.
>>570098007I don't know if I really agree, the pvp-lite mode already has heavily skewed the gear disparity before Cryo even came out, which is supposed to be the pinnacle location right now, mostly on part of bungie fucking up and it functionally being a pve mode. I guess trace does help naturally filter out gear after going through a handful of players but still.
>>570098059>From a Youtube/content side of things, yeah, Marathon has nothing going for itIt sucks cause I really want to make videos since all I do is play the game, but there's really nothing interesting you can come up with for vid ideas. No one wants to watch you stuff your face into bushes and listen to you sound whoring, and neither do people wanna watch a clip comp of just 3 second fights.
let pve mode have customizable template characters, and let pvp modes keep the shells/heroes. thoughts?
>>570098289>pve mode is you playing as BoBs and fighting off the Pfhor during the 2nd invasion a hundred years before the current Marathon story
>>570098556one of the launch trailers showed off multiple of these generic soldier space dudes and i've been scratching my head wondering why
>>570098630Lots of early design details were probably lost in translation at this point. Armor doesn't even really match the armor we see lying around in places like Complex in Marsh and such.
>>570098696>earlyit's literally one of the launch trailers, they have at least like 3 designsthis game is a mess
>>570098630They should have used the uesc robot designs as a base. Aside from a few dedicated coomer bait shells the rest should have been biomechanical cool beasts and not some random guy with a blue bucket on his head.
>>570098759Oh you mean launch launch I thought maybe this was orphaned from some launch teaser trailer.
>>570096010>Apparently the game has enough budget greenlight up to season 4. Ziegler said that they want to finalize the PvE experimentationThe time to experiment was the years of development. What a shitshow
Also it'd just be interesting to see what humans actually look like at this point in the setting, the intentional contrast between a human with some implants vs bio-engineered shells would be neat.
>>570099017yeah one of trailers in march, i'm too lazy to find it
>>570099105Amogus?
>>570099105>Agriculture/Bio-Research>Security>Hazard Crew/Field OperatorsIs what I imagine these are supposed to be.
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING REVERBS?!
>>570098630Those are the colonists.
>optimal solo strategy is ignoring loot and enemies in order to kill players>optimal trio strategy is ignoring loot and enemies in order to kill playersPity NDA's exist I would have loved to read what happened behind the scenes for stuff like this to slip past the design phase.
>>570099050they made and shipped a fucking ~$400 million minimum viable product game with no clear concrete idea of what an end intended format would amount to let alone conviction on the matter eitherpretty astounding shit
wait a seconddoes marathon even register as a minimum viable product given it is categorically not commercially viable in the slightest as evidenced by its insignificant if not nonexistent audience and playerbase?
>>570103690stop beating around the bush and just post the steamcharts screeny you have ready.
>>570103758anyone can look that upmy question pertains to the label of minimum viable product actually needing to be performant in earnest to deserve the titlethis doesn't appear to even meet that bar
because if marathon is not viable as a gamewhich it is notthen it isn't even a minimum viable product, is it?it's just a minimum productthe most distilled form of sloppa
>S2 starting off great with new stuff, guns, gameplay and reset.>Game still just as fun as in S1.>D2 players get a massive content drop that technically keeps their game in a legacy status where they've got like a good 8 years worth of replayable content, a trillion builds and weapons to poke around with.>There is a turf war between two products that currently don't even really share an audience and another has no live service planned for the foreseeable future.I'll never fucking get some people. We've got two excellent games out and the Destiny fanbase are still acting like the sky is falling.
>>570104215>bungie>excellent gameswere you born after 9/11 or something?not for a long fucking time now mang
>>570098630Looks like a weird fetish latex suit. Maratroons are pathetic
>>570104317poopoo peepee pants septic suit onesie teehee
imagine the smell
>>570092948They were making D2 characters gay, designing (stealing) ugly lgbt character styles and being woke
>>570104310I was born in mid-80s. My favourite games from Bungie are Marathon 2, ONI, Myth II: Soulblighter, D1-D2 and the current iteration of Marathon. I never was too big on Halo, mostly because i've played most of my games on a PC platform and i was in my teens instead a toddler when Halo came out. I always thought the series to be heavily rushed, insanely overrated and largely a platform for online/LAN/co-op for those who had no access to PC gaming back in the days. I loved Timesplitters to bits though when it comes to console FPS, but i seriously never got why Halo was as popular as it was. Brand recognition and the popularity of the Xbox?
>>570103690>does marathon even register as a minimum viable productYes, for those, who are good at video games. Walking trash cans(the majority) can't enjoy, not skillful enough.
>>570104689>Brand recognition>for a new IP
1 green shield vs 3 blues
>Mfw i played Destiny for the first time in a long time and the gunplay felt worse than Marton.
>>570104689do you have no adhesion to the setting of halo or the story it tells?no lie, it's not the best by any stretch whatsoever, but shit is seriously fun science fiction at least through a few facetsbungo should have stuck to making games with earnestly mature themes. destiny is just unpalatable on the surface in its tenor for me. no stakes, no direness, no gravity, no central compelling thread of any tale being told. brainless space magic scifi and in the worst flavor imaginable to my palate. beyond consideration for any gradient of engagement and immediately so.
Marathon's gameplay is 200% better than Destiny'sAnd I'm 300% better than other players
>>570105019>400% dead on arrival flop-ass concord 2 ahh game
>>570104215>two excellent gamesmarathon isn't growing, nobody in the online spaces talks about or streams it. most feedback after the free weekend is literally "it's just isn't for me". it's a failed experiment hacked together by a bunch of random live service ideas borrowed from other popular gamesdestiny 2 is a classic story of mismanagement and poor direction getting so bad that undoing the fuckload of damage from it all made maintaining the game longterm with any realistic growth became impossible. shitty on-boarding experience, content vaulting, keeping expectations tactfully low, and so on. thus sunsetthese two games aren't excellent. bungie isn't an excellent studio.
>>570105226ok cool
>>570105081I'm iridescent(top 5%) on MW3 ranked, 2024.Iridescent(top 5%) on BO6 ranked.Iridescent (top 5%) on BO7 ranked.I'm top 5% on multiplayer and battle royale(Warzone). Preordered Modern Warfare 4
>>570104996The problem with Halo is that you've got people going all nuts about the lore and setting, then you spend 90% of your time shooting colorful apes, grunts, elites and running down corridors. Beyond that, most of the storytelling was also relegated to the extended universe and the world building as a result was left entirely to the games that were quite frankly heavily unfinished. The game was a lot better in it's multiplayer component but as time went on there was already plenty of good console and PC fps games that had a more robust online experience available so to this day i think the game runs largely on nostalgia fumes and the vast majority of people who got on the Halo train extremely young.
>>570105301wow i sure fucking asked all about that didn't iwhat sort of personality complexes do you think besaddle you to want to convey all of that without solicitation?
>>570105375I'm very good at PvP, that's why I love Marathon 2026(never heard of the old game tho)
>>570105363halo clicks for me when you properly step into the boots of fucking zogbot killing machine actually getting pitted against a foe that earnestly gives warrant to his having been created amidst an abject war of extermination that mankind is badly losingand none of that is lost in the flesh of any of the games
>sub 20k 24h They either add DLSS5 before it’s too late or the game dies
>>570105226You don't even spend one sentence on commenting about the actual content of the games themselves. You just go on to bemoan about their financial, direction or monetization strategies and then declare "game shit" because it's not pulling in a trillion players. What about the games themselves? Like playing them? How's the actual gameplay? Why are you even here...?
When someone says Marathon is too sweaty, I know they're a walking trash can, terrible at vidya.Simple as
>>570105581>or the game diesIf it takes Bungie and Destiny with it I'm all for it.
>>570105041How much? I'm rich
>>570105019>Marathon's gameplay is 200% better than Destiny'sI think Marathon is just the better game overall. I'm not kidding either. It's smaller in scale, and I think should stay that way. We don't need another space-opera bloatfest of half-baked ideas that get thrown on a heap that needed fixing badly.
>>570106332>half-baked ideas that get thrown on a heap that needed fixing badlyboy that sure doesn't sound like the state marton released in lmfao
>>570104917I have no idea why anyone thinks shooting health bars in D2 is good gunplay.
>>570106401>boy that sure doesn't sound like the state marton released in lmfaoMarathon doesn't have a 12 year history of ignoring flaws and sprinkling them with new content that was irrelevant the following season. Neither has Marathon a history of flat out removing content because the game has grown too big to handle the shit they crammed in there.
>>570104847Assassin sees better in smoke??
>>570106447it does not take all that fancy a keyring to jingle to sate your average fps-gravitating troglodyte and certainly not one that has any taste for looter shooters>>570106598>Marathon doesn't have a 12 year historysure it doesn't lmfaodem patriots amirite fuck context lmao
>>570106658Do you always engage in conversations in bad faith? Or is that your way to coping?
>>570106652>Assassin sees better in smoke??I don't think so. I heard them and got close, being close makes them glow red. Shoot them and the shield glows, Recon's face and pulse glows.I think the only one who can see in smoke is Thief, you have to activate the X-ray. Recon can't see your body, only an icon(runner icon). I don't think I've ever noticed a difference in visibility for Assassin.P.S. when you get close to an Assassin in smoke, he does not glow red, because of the invis-cloak. Everyone else glows red in smoke.
>>570106827i just live in apparent reality bro and take no prisoners with my spicy hot objectively correct takes
>>570106652>>570106889>aim assist is deactivated for everyone>enemies glow>you don't glow, until you shootPretty cool huh? Controllers can't track you, until you exit smoke.
When you start shooting, aim assist on you is still deactivated. All players have to exist smoke, for aim assist to be enabled.>>570104847
>>570106925No illusion like delusion, you do you.
>>570105653>Fortnite $59.99
>>570107486i know all there is to know, anonnothing at all!and to quite a sincere extent at that <3i've read that it takes about a decade to properly settle in and i'm not sure how far along therein i am
>yeah bro destiny is really good you just have to play it for ten years so you forget what actual good games are like and get accustomed to how miserable it is
>>>/dg/
>>570084604How about offline PvE so the game is still playable next year
>>570108973>>570109010Due to the rapid decrease in Marathon's playerbase, /mg/ needs Destiny migrants to enrich our general and bring much needed diversity. Destiny posters are the future of our general and they are just as much Marathoners as we are. Please stop with the hate speech and bigotry directed towards them.
>>570109219Lol, lmao
Marathon quarantine makes hauler look like a dead zone. What's in there that provokes such a bloodbath?
>>570110109>dire marsh quarantine*Whoops
>season 2 flopped and sloppedeos when?
>>570110109A bunch of quests. Surveillance lenses. A decent place to set up ambush or camp rooftops.
>>570111330n o wdrawn-outhytericaldelusionallulztastic
>>570111330They should unironically eos Marathon immediately then pivot to making D2 content so people stay engaged with Destiny while they work on D3. This is the only way forward for Bungo.
>>570105019The game is literally made for sweats so I would expect this take to line up with a sweat.
>>570111694many are saying this
>>570104732Why don't people want to be skilled AF?
>>570111893Not sure what else they can do unless they have some mystery game in the works.
Dire Marsh (Evening) will save Marathon
>>570109219That would be nice.
Night Marsh (Winter variant) will save the game
Cherry Orchard (all combat disabled) will save the game
>need to finish these night marsh quests while easy mode is open>reverbs aren't spawning
>Only 9k players on atm>Takes anywhere between 10 to 20mins to find anyone for Nigth Marsh now
>>570112062>Dire Marsh Dusk>Dire Marsh Dawn>Perimeter Dusk>Perimeter Night>Outpost Day>UESC Marathon (any section) BlackoutNeat shit.NOW ADD SNOW, MOUNTAIN, DESERT MAPS.
Free week ends tomorrow
>>570113710>>Takes anywhere between 10 to 20mins to find anyone for Nigth Marsh nowFlat out lying.I dont know why you are on chinese mcdonalds wifi but at most it takes me two minutes on any map.
>Saar you are the tuning bloody bastard bitch the Marathon has 10 billion players and I kindly find match instantly and promptlyThis game is dead, retard. They fucked up the launch and S2. Maybe they can fix it with S3 but I doubt it, they don't learn anything.
>Find a corpse in Station, at the entrance towards the drone garage leading to Tunnels>Unlooting>Was right next to a damaged commanderCome on now. Those guys aren't so tough. There was an explosive barrel right next to you as well.>AssassinAh
>>570114289Anon it does not take ten minutes to find a match unless you are from some hick hillbilly backwater country that doesn't matter.I don't know what to tell you but if it's genuinely ten minutes for you then that is entirely on you.
>>570113770>NOW ADD SNOW, MOUNTAIN, DESERT MAPS.UESC underwater facilities pleaseOr just reskin Titan from D2
>>570114289>took less than 30 seconds to find a NMarsh sponsored kit>took less than a minute for 3 Perimeter runs>took less than a minute to find DMarsh runDont play at 3 am in your 3rd world shithole. And if you are in Australia, well, tough luck mate.
>>570115326I would like that too. Atoll map with an underground-underwater base. Instead of ticks we would get some luminous squids and crabs.
>>570115797>Underwater facilities with large windows for ocean views>Night mode>Underwater anomalyImagine
Destroyer should be able to use one-handed weapons when his shield is up.
you can tell destiny 2 fans genuinely think they deserve to live
>>570115690STRAYA MENTIONED!
>>570116636Always thought this guy looked like a genuine King of the Hill characterI swear he would fit right in
How did the free week go? Oh...
>>570113798Whats the player count going to be once it ends?
Quick question.Are the awesome orange, transparent parts to weapons, some charms, and the Assassins new, unique outfit for this Reward Pass not working properly for anyone else?None of it shows like transparent oranges shown in the preview boxes or the 3d art.Its just a solid, dark rose color
I think this looks great
>uno week after F2P and the big life-saving S2 patch>cant crack 20k peak despite F2P still being onlmao
People who play assassin do so because it is an extension of their personality. They do not feel comfortable being seen or drawing attention. They want to not be noticed while they fuck about. They fear confrontation.This is wrong. You should embrace what Marathon gives you. Become the biggest most notable runner you can be. Pick the loudest shell. Wear the most garish, clashing colors available to you. Seek confrontation. Embrace the attention and become a nuisance.
>>570119554Would love to but the game's just not meant for it. Ass's ability to bypass bots (gank bait) is simply too valuable.
>>570119679Just destroy them all. Let your gunfire be heard throughout the map. Meek players fear the gun of the bold. They will not approach.
>>570028117I looked at the price of LUX and decided that I will not be buying cosmetics.
>>570117934One Bungie game is getting further updates, while the other one isn't. I'd say pretty well.
Free player here. This game is so fucking shit as an extraction shooter, it should've been a pureky PvE game.
>>570080198>Nope. Somehow flops even harder than releasePlenty of games tend to peak around release.Oof, yikes, ooferino, whatever, game will still be around for years despite your melty. Kek.
>>570119345The life-saving patch will be whichever one bring a proper permanent PvE mode.Anyone that told you Night Marsh is gonna save the game by itself is utterly retarded.Also, it's easily gonna break 20k now. It didn't yesterday because vast majority of Marafans are also Destinybros.
>we need cinematic apps to watch, we're too stupid to outplay someone in a gametroons suck at everything huh
>>570122404yeah, it's why troons exclusively play vandal and thief
>>570120236Alright alright f2p's ending so might as well fool around. If you run into a suicidal destroyer with a free kit that's me.
>>570121667plenty of games break six figure player counts on steam near-to or on release
>>570122645Same.Make sure to use your ult on a player at least once. Just for the overkill.If you kill an assassin in his smoke with it, you even unlock a codex entry.
>>570119345the game is just way too fucking niche. There's nothing they can do to fix it besides a full revamp of the entire game. The game is actually really good...as an extraction shooter. The problem is nobody wants to play a fucking extraction shooter besides the most locked in, unemployed, terminally online sweatlords. People play video games to relax for the most pat and you literally cannot relax in this game, ever. Or you lose all of your shit that you worked for. I legitimately have no idea how Bungie got Sony to sign off on his.
>exclusively play Rook or sponsored kits>sell or convert everything I get and buy faction upgradesR8 my strat
>>570122821>Or you lose all of your shit that you worked for. IIf you overcome gear fear it really helps. Coming from Destiny, which fosters a bad hoarding habit, it was rough. But the truth is, even after ten bad runs, a single good run makes up for everything. Even a hundred bad runs are easily evened out. Even as a free kit you can kill players in greens or blues or just take their shit.People don't want to hear that though. They would have to come to terms that the problem is in their head.
>>570122730Reddit is down the hall and to the left
>>570123045a solid Rook/Rat
>>570122001>Also, it's easily gonna break 20k now.Will it? Seems to have lost another 2k at the bottom end and doing worse numbers at the same time yesterday, except for when it was heading into patch mode for the servers.
>>570122821>the game is just way too fucking niche.that cant be true, its something wrong with the game. hunt and tarkov are doing better with tarkov being full autism.
>>570124657Tarkov appeals to the slav autist type of player, with some chink on the side.
>free week teammates get jumped stay away from my lil newbies, we're vibing
>>570052740BlastedAlso Glorpinity rape and murder (in Cryo) when?
>>570124918it sure is handy that triage has that floating robot giving him away
The more I play Marathon, the more I realize it's a game designed by bullies, for bullies. If you're new to the game, you get paired with people without mics and each level is being ruthlessly patrolled by squads with elite tier weapons and shields that you realistically have no chance against. You can't even hide from them either. It's a fancy Turkey shoot simulator, where you are the turkey.The starting sponsor kit weapons, or the weapons you find from 95% of the loot are useless against elite equipped runners. My sneezes hit harder than most of the grey tier guns in the game you start with. Just today, I emptied a 15+ rounds with a Retaliator (machine gun) into a shielded runner at 10 ft away inside Hauler and didnt break the shields. He turns around and two shots me. Yeah and all the UESC just ignore him too, but not me. Had the jump on him but doesn't matter. Yeah, I know if I had just pay-pigged a 3k yellow tier weapon, things would have been different, and thats probably the business model for Bungie.What I can't understand is how Bungie, a AAA game company, allows this. Halo wasn't like that, and I played a lot. A pistol or needler could actually hurt another player, and god forbid, even kill him or her. The power level difference between a fully kitted runner and a sponsor kit drop in, is like putting Barry Bonds in a T-Ball league difference.Marathon is Warzone / Fortnite EXCEPT the best players in the game are allowed to come in 10 minutes early with all the best guns and camp all the POI, to shoot unarmed civilians (you) for kicks. A good video game should reward skill, but at a fundamental level, every player should have a chance to win.Anyone being honest with the state of Marathon now is that it is decidedly NOT possible at all for a new player to ever win fights against elite players in game.Great for the bullies, shit for everyone else.
Is there any point in trying to figure out the story to this game if I'm a big fan of the original Marathon gamesas in, what timeline are we in and whether the MIDA ever actually ended up doing anything significant again
>>570125451the tranny timeline
>>570124918That aimbot is legendary.
>>570125282>Also Glorpinity rape and murder (in Cryo) when?lmao did he get to you?
>>570125396Which is why unless they go PvE (and leave PvP as an option - ranked), they can kiss revenue/profits goodbye and huff cubic meters of copium every hour.
>>570125396>The more I play Marathon, the more I realize it's a game designed by bullies, for bullies.Yes and the moment you embrace that it's immensely fun. You are as much of a victim as you are a culprit.Also>I'm a bully bullying bullies with a bully
>>570125396It doesn't help that it's literally just a battle royale. People are in denial about this but the game offers literally nothing else than PVP, it has no depth beyond this, not in story, not in the PvE, not in any kind of events inside or outside. This game is extremely undercooked and is all style with no substance
>>570125451Unfortunately, most fo the story is locked behind valuables and thus Codex entries. Doing Priority Contracts helps with context and story so far too.
>>570125451no, the story is shitty AI prompts via journal entries
>>570124657Tarkov is very popular with the milsim community
>>570125396Management huffing the dark souls copium + circlejerking a small pool of people. I wouldn't be surprised if the codex driven story is their equivalent of item descriptions.
Remember when Destiny had no story and all lore was hidden behind lore cards?It was better than what they went for in the end.
>>570126241
>>570126085that's not story, that's all lore slop, none of the codexes advance any kind of "story", you're just reading and hearing about shit that happened offscreen. The only existent goal is to kill the Compiler, that is the endgame.
>>570126085>>570126185Bruh, at least I'm used to having to glean lore from static cards thanks to early Destiny but still I saw the MIDA faction cutscene ages ago and I thought this game might be actually doing something with the lore from the franchise it's named after but now I found out that it's pretty much all they have since it's the faction introI know there's a Compiler somewhere in the game and I want to fucking find it
On that subject:Shifting Destiny away from being a lore focused setting towards a narrative was the worst decision on that game's entirely history.
>>570126676Also AFAIK Durandal occasionally pops up in the game but I haven't gotten that far yet to know anything moreI'll just see how much further I can get in the last hours of this free period
>>570126676>I know there's a Compiler somewhere in the game and I want to fucking find itcompiler is on the end game map, have to go through a bunch of bullshit to reach it
>>570126957People shit on the lore card site format (with good reason) but they definitely did something right with it because I spent hours reading through Hive lore and Books of Sorrow and D2 never managed to get me that invested into anything in it
>>570125396You can absolutely win against players with higher tier equipment than yours, if you know what you're doing. A purple shield noob is still likely to die against a green shield vet. That's an issue similar to fighting games, you can keep making the game more casual friendly, but you can't take away the experience from the experienced players.I think the issue is that white shields just give you zero room for error, you can't learn effectively when you just die instantly. Maybe they should bring the green free kits back. Personally, I'd like blue shields to be the default.
>>570126391>The only existent goal is to kill the Compiler, that is the endgame>endgameOnly if you make it be so.
>>570127209Blame the retards with short attention spans who can't read and need cutscenes to tell them what's going on or, worse, youtubers to read lore cards to them.
>>570126676>Do 20 shitty fetch quests>WOAH RUNNER THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE WATER OF TAI CENU IM NOT SURE WHAT IT IS>Do another shitty 20 fetch quests>HI I AM SCIENTIST DR SHELLY AND THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG HERE VERY WRONG BUT SOMETHING HAS GONE EXTREMELY WRONG AND VERY WRONG>Do another shitty 20 fetch quests>THANK YOU RUNNER I AM STARTING TO PIECE TOGETHER WHAT HAPPENED AT THAI KENU PLEASE GO BACK AND INVESTIGATE WHAT WENT WRONG
>>570126059l get that, but it doesn't even let you buy shields.>shields are important (duh)>need to progress Nucaloric upgrade tree to unlock ability to buy shields>need salvage item only found in Hauler>Level 30+ sweats camp out Hauler and murder you remorselessly for trying to get shields to have a chance against themThere's no way out. Its like the Spartan-Helot arrangement where any Helots who start getting intelligent or muscular get exterminated on site.
>>570127583>l get that, but it doesn't even let you buy shields.Once you upgraded factions, you can.And again, even as a grey kit user you can still beat blues.
>>570127373"if you know what you're doing" is doing Atlas levels of heavy liftingI promise you that even Diffizle, Wallah, Omlet, Panduh, Alexape, etc. dropping in without elite gear are getting fucking rocked by any group of 3 kids with elite gear.The grey retaliator takes 15+ bullets to break blue shields, and that assumes they are standing still and not fighting back; which they will. And their comrades are there too.Skill is skill, but imagine if other games worked like this. Mariokart where one guy gets infinite mushrooms, and everyone else gets told(lied to) "you need to git gud" to beat them when in fact the only way to beat them is to get infinite mushrooms too. But the infinite mushrooms are only accessible by beating a guy with infinite mushrooms at least 15 times AND exfiltrating successfully said 15 times.Just a stupid fun hating game mechanism. A game made by bullies for bullies.
>>570127836Man I don't think you even play the game anymore.I am telling you right now, it is less than 1% success chance you will get into Hauler, FIND reclaimed biostripping, and exfiltrate successfully 15 times to unlock shields. I am talking like 60+ hours of grind to do this is fucking insane. No reason Perimeter should allow elite squads to drop in and turkey shoot noobs like the status quo. Just pure bullying by shitty game designers.
>>570128138For the record, all retaliators deal the same damage. Higher tier does not mean higher damage.Weapon mods affect other things, but never damage.A retaliator does need a shield though, all LMGs do. If you have one, you can reliably win duels even with movement.Knowing this however, requires trial and error on the player's side, or a guide on bungie's. And this game's onboarding is suboptimal to say the least.Also yes, map knowledge is at least half the game. Another big part is using your entire tool kit, not just guns.
>>570128356Hauler is loaded with biostrips, which come in stacks of 2+ last I checked. You can dash in, grab what you can, dash out. You can hear exactly when someone is approaching Hauler, or when someone is in, even where exactly he is.
>>570125396>Let me shoot this guy who likely has something that'll blow you up within 10ft with a sponsor kit unwrapped angle-holding weapon that needs a shield to duel and has notoriously bad body shot damage.I understand it must be tempting to go in with Sponsor kits 24/7, but they're not meant to be baseline loadouts even with the more versatile options. You get in, you sneak around and look for arms lockers/PoIs and you'll just have to deal that you can't achieve the same potential as someone team lugging in 30k worth of gear into a run. The reason the game works at all gear levels has a lot to do with equalizers. Knives, grenades, shell abilities and just one good ambush is all it takes to turn that 30k into your own net worth. Beyond that, it's just better to start making budget loadouts instead of running the freekits unless you're so fucking poor you absolutely have to use one. (0 creds, nothing in vault). You can cobble together a loadout with 1k creds that'll hold much better than going in shieldless and with zero options for gun choices. Overrun is exceptionally good in this season, so use it for all the 100 creds it's worth.>Great for the bullies, shit for everyone else.Sounds like sore lose shit, if nothing else. I can understand being pissed for being stomped on occasion, but it happens in every game even Halo. Plenty of lobbies in there where you'll spend more time in the respawn screen then actually playing the game and trying to equate the problem with Marathon being that there is some form of massive barrier between the mid-range loadouts and the guys running expensive prestige gear that might as well only be better in the use cases they're made for. Like it still baffles me how nobody seems to understand that purple shields is where the EHP gains stop and the only thing you gain out of prestige is med efficiency.
>>570128690I am telling you this with absolute certainty because I have been playing Perimeter for many hours this past week, that what you wrote is 100% bullshit. The odds you can sneak into Hauler, grab biostripping "stacks" and exfil without Blue Shield Murder squads catching you is less than 2%. Even with Recon stealth. Getting 15 of these to unlock shields is just fantasy now. Maybe this worked on Season 1, but NOW you are just making up things completely divorced from reality.Below is the target gaming audience for Marathon. As I originally wrote..
>>570129425perimeter sponsored mode will be up in about 30 mins, so time to farm hauler ig
>>570125451the story is a fucking mess because it would have been hard work to actually continue it properly. There's some neat stuff but the timeline makes no sense if you know the old lore.I am sick of seeing the word redacted.
>>570129425Then explain to me how I, a shitter without compare, zero compiler kills, never stepped into Cryo, managed to amass all the stuff I have.
>>570128921I played Quake 2,3, UT, Battlefield, MW, etc. so I am not a sore loser. Been fragged more times than you've had hot dinners. As I keep pointing out, you CANNOT buy shields unless you unlock them via Nucaloric where you need a certain salvage being jealously guarded by elite kitted sweats.I am telling you now the state of the game is exactly like the picture I just posted. Bullies getting off on bullying. >>570129425Overrun does fuck all against Blue Shielded guys with weapons that can one shot you. So many unicorn events have to occur for "that perfect ambush" you made up to happen. Oh AND you need to Exfil afterwards, where you WILL not be the one setting the ambush but walking into it.I bet you haven't played the game since Season 1. Go into Perimeter right fucking now and go in and out of Hauler with reclaimed biostripping. Show us all how fucking easy it is.
>>570129425>Below is the target gaming audience for MarathonDo you not know what /j means?
>>570130149j is for jenkem
>>570127531lmao yes that's the lore
>>570113798I've had fun but I'm not buying it
>>570130145>I bet you haven't played the game since Season 1. Go into Perimeter right fucking now and go in and out of Hauler with reclaimed biostripping. Show us all how fucking easy it is.I'm playing it right now, as a matter of fact. And they made loot more abundant compared to S1. You would know if you weren't a bigger shitter than even me.
>>570118062My guess is the same as season 1's middle ground.
>>570128921This is all good advice but the prevailing noob logic is:>i need meds for a good kit, they're too expensive and i'm going to die anyhow>guess i'll keep freekitting, not like 20 hp mattersThe instinct to preserve the vault value you have when it's declining every run is strong, the game doesn't put in the effort to overcome this. Would the game be more enjoyable if a cheap kit was the first thing noobs went for? Yes. Are they staring at a mid 4 digit cost for what they think is a "minimum" kit and thinking it isn't worth it? Also yes.
>>570131220You just want shit on a silver platter.You will not find a non-grindy extraction shooter. Go back to the games you're comfortable with.
>>570129425are you playing solo? that might be your problem. im pretty shit and ive had some bad runs but my experience in 220 hours isnt what youve been describing in your posts
>>570131283Guys will post this, and then in the next board unironically complain that the game is dying and no players are joining.
>>570131283You didn't read a single thing I posted retard. Do you think I was talking about my experience you? What part of>this is good advicemakes you think I'm whining about gear disparity?
>>570131426So let it die. Better a dead game than another 12 years of faggots like Destiny players.
>>570131473In the time you spent whining on /vg/ you could have gathered the biostripping you need.
>>570131335Guess I have bad luck then. I play the most with trios and occasionally I get a good team to work with. Unfortunately they want to do their own thing, so I folllow them because I want to play as a team. Rarely do they want to go to Hauler when I ping it; because they usually have shields unlocked and know how much of a meatgrinder it is.
>>570131220That's just something no amount of tweaking will fix. People will always go through the path of least resistance and if you can give people eternal chances at being cheapskates, they'll be cheapskates. Most of my early S2 was getting into gunfights with the 75+ level sponsor kits, so i got like anywhere between 4-5 purple shields during seasonal start solely from that specific set of fights. Even then, blue shields are piss easy to get for either barters or purchase in this seasons and those already run more than enough worth in terms of money, (7 fucking sneeds for blues last season) so the overall shield economy is vastly improved too. Even if you wanted every single round to be purples, there's more than enough value in blues to be worth it for the whole season if your bank can't suddenly straight away handle the purple cred values or barters.
>>570131653I started posting about an hour ago. My squad would have been murdered only about 3 times in that time, so no, getting the remaining 8 biostrippings is not possible.
>>570131653NTA retard. I'm talking about the defensive reasoning that idiots use to fuck themselves over, and how the game does nothing to disabuse them of that shitty logic. Players treat vault value and credits as a high score, instead of something to spend as much of as possible to get wins, and that's a bad thing.
>>570131676what are you trying to do exactly? hauler is a meatgrinder cause it has guaranteed weapon locker spawnsif you have a contract to do at hauler, simply asking usually gets people to go along with youif you need help i can play with you, im not great but i know the game and have basic green/blue gear in my vault
>>570131982>SquadPlay solo, now do your quests.
>>570127583Rook runs are pretty decent for that. No risk, and if you're good you can bully people coming out Hauler. If you're lucky you can even third party for all of the spoils
>trios has decently fun (most of the time) pvp but turns the game into a faggy BR>solo has the tense atmospheric survival vibe but every third run ends prematurely from a random instantaneous death with no feasible counterplay>pve is going to be mindless, repetitive destiny patrol tier mob farmingthere's just no winning
>>570125396This is all bullshit btw. All base weapons are Grey tier by default and increase only with mods attached to them. So a Grey starter assault rifle does about the same damage a purple one would, purple one just has a bigger mag, fancy scope etc. Obviously an SMG doesn't do the same damage a sniper does, nor should it.Also you can't paypiggy for a weapon. The microtransactions only cover cosmetics, the 3k yellow weapon you're referring to is bought with in game currency, and 3k is not a large amount. You can get that from a single exfil easily.Killing other people even as a sponsored kit rat or rook is easy. Just go solo and stealth it out, use your knife on pve mobs to avoid making noise.
>>570132513duos is the best mode but im lucky to have an IRL friend to play with
Remember to support Bungie and future Marathon updates.
cool new mode bungo
>>570132841I'm nonbuynary
>>570128921What good is buying kits if you're just going to lose it dying to a more experienced player still? Now you're just actively losing value generated from previous successful runs instead of it being contained to just losing what you found during a freekit run. You can't just easily string PvP quickly back to back with a bog standard loadout to build up experience and get a better sense of playing well, instead you're just going to keep getting merc'd by better players. At least in trios fights usually drag on long enough that you can react and adapt, but solo encounters are genuinely over in the blink of an eye usually and you'll probably lose by virtue of having less time with the game than the other playerIf you're a below average or inexperienced player you're just either going to have to eat shit until you somehow manage to eat less shit or simply try to avoid PvP outright, the whole thing the game is based aroundThe best thing Marathon does is throw so much free stuff at you, have sponsored kits so you can do runs without Rook and have missions you can complete midrun instead of being tied to items and exfilling. Just all little wins to mask the losses and trick you into thinking it's not so bad so you keep putting up with the struggle of futility it is if you aren't that good at the game
So whats the strat to bump up NuCaloric? sponsored survival trios and rush hauler?
>>570133028So why are you playing then? This game isn't about optimizing your vault. You use gear, you lose gear and then you'll build up again with the variety of safety nets you've got from successful runs. It seems like people are chasing for some magical high of getting only 100% exfil rate and then get utterly disappointed when they can be on the receiving end of the stick too. Solo in particular is something you want to gear up as heavily as you can, as you're always at a clear advantage when you bring in more stuff.
>>570132841it might just be that the moment Destiny stops paying, Sony will shut Bungie down
>>570132841I boughtered...
>>570133028This games only target audience are the 1%; be it content creators or extremely skilled players. Everyone else are lambs to the slaughterr for their entertainment. The problem?They haven't figured out how to not only attract, but also sustain and make it enjoyable for people who aren't in the first two groups of players. Once the lambs have left all the wolves have left to do is fight among themselves and most don't find that entertaining.Sociopath Behavior
I'm just happy that Hauler is a bloodbath again.
>>570134598I think they're going to give Bungie another ~6 months to try to fix Marathon a bit before they probably start working on Destiny 3. Its going to happen eventually, and I can KIND of understand them stopping work on D2 while they cut some staff and fix Marathon, while in the background laying the prep work for a D3. Destiny's problem has never been player interest, it was monetization iirc. I think a D3 would have either a monthly subscription, or more P2W like Warframe has. Regardless Warframe has kinda shown that looter shooters can be very monetarily successful and Destiny has the fanbase to support it. Just a matter of if Sony wants to bite the bullet for the initial investment cost and get D3 ready for the PS6's launch in ~2028-2029. I don't see Sony greenlighting any experimental new projects after Marathon.
>>570127531The lore is that they got fucked over by a bio-weapon that was constantly upgraded by some eldrich bullshit entity that also created Anomaly to fuck with colonists - first with crops, then with minds, then with lives.Doc's entry is that she finally figured out that it was right there in the soil from the start, at first inert, then rapidly evolving and countering everything they threw at it - from analysis to curatives. They did not know what the fuck it was at first, then where it came from. Except it was a bit too late considering colony collaps, though Doc made a sterling effort to get to the bottom of it. Thing is, they still didnt know WHO/WHAT placed it there.Reminds me of that HALO thing where Forerunners first encountered Flood as just a case of some white powder that was harmless. So they put it into foodstuff for certain pets. Yeah, guess how THAT went. Did not help in Marathon's Colony case that they spliced and hybridised food-sources with native TC4 ones. And then the fucking ticks...
>>570118062F2P players have either already left or they've got the game and stuck around. we're not gonna see a massive dip
>>570134573No, it's not about optimizing your vault, but emptying it out in an attempt to get an upper footing in unforgiving PvP which you probably will still lose does not feel good to anyone. If you can't manage to get better at the game, what are you even playing it for? As is, the entire game revolves around the PvP, it's the meat of the game, and near everything else is legitimately just fluff to spice it up. If you seemingly can't improve in the short term why even bother sticking with it with the hopes of improving over time? You're supposing that people even have successful runs for the most part, but what do those successful runs really look like for the inexperienced player? Most likely one where they didn't encounter another player. At a point it just starts to feel like engaging in PvP is futile and thus that the core component of the game is just not worth your time, effort and frustration
>>570135870The problem is that Marathon's design is fighting itself. You have this cool lore and vibes and atmosphere and aesthetics, but the gameplay doesn't present it well, because it's a lose-your-gear ruthless PVP extraction shooter. Nobody will bother taking in the storytelling and lore when it's fucking audio logs nobody will pay attention to because you're trying not to die, or low effort "cutscenes" in quests you'll do every season.You can't have proper questlines or cutscenes or advance the story meaningfully. What do you even do?
>>570129425Relax, survival Perimeter is here. Unfortunately, servers are not up for it. LLAMA.
>>570129958>that last sentenceWe are FUBAR.
>>570129958I hate [REDACTED]s
>>570132973Look man we're tryin it's tough out there okay?
>>570132594>This is all bullshit>focuses on one exaggerated comment about buying stronger weapons which you cantKilling other people on tight teams with Blue Shields while on a rando squad is NOT easy brother. Sure you can kill one, maybe two, but three ? Fuck off. You lie like you breathe. You're missing the whole point that Bungie does NOTHING to stop elites from bullying noobs and preventing them from accessing shields in the vault / armory for the reasons I have demonstrated at length.
>>570136302Yes, design is fighting itself. An identity crisis.
>>570136302They didn't plan this game to last. They made it to get as many quick bucks as possible off the extraction shooter niggers but they took way too long to release it and missed out on that window. So now the plan is to last.
>>570136869All you've demonstrated is being a one huge retard and possibly one of the worst players in this general. There's got to be something your sorry ass is missing, if you cannot retain a similar point of reference to most of the other players of your own skill level. It's even worse when you factor in that there's also the occasional cases where you'll likely face an even footing and still lose. It happens, it's the nature of the game too. If it goes so heavily against your ego, just go play something that does stroke it more effectively.
>>570136437OP here. I welcome this development, so I can now unlock shields with a reasonable amount of grind. Its funny how people here talk to you like that the feature unlocked literally 20 minutes ago was available since launch. Same attitude as Apple when their phones were exploding "here's your free phone case....now fuck off"
>>570136869You type like a dipshit. >Killing other people on tight teams with Blue Shields while on a rando squad is NOT easy brotherAre you advocating for players that are objectively worse to win? Yeah, sometimes you get unlucky and your crew fill squad of no mic 11 year olds loses to the coordinated death squad. It wouldn't have mattered if you had the better weapons if you're all fucking terrible, the coordinated squad would have won. I play with friends and we have a skill differential, sometimes I kill 2 of the enemy team, die, and the last guy wins the 1v3 - yeah that's frustrating but that's the way it goes, sometimes the other player is just fuckin better than you. Maybe 1 in 5 fights are determined by pure gear difference.
I just died to a teleporting invincible UESC bot
>>570137327>if you cannot retain a similar point of reference to most of the other players of your own skill levelImagine writing this and believing a game that does NOTHING to incentivize people of similar skill levels from ever playing together, actually has a fair merit base matchmaking system.We get it: you like being a bully, shooting and killing other people who pose absolutely zero threat to you, or ever could. Just admit it you are on the whip hand side of things.But don't fucking bullshit us and say that those on the receiving end of the whip can turn the tables "easily". Thats so dishonest.
>>570136869Okay but you're essentially complaining that trios have an advantage in a 3v1. Like. Of course they do? If you feel like you're getting bullied in trios, you can queue up in solo queue, and then everyone is by themselves and it's all 1v1.
>>570137605Bungie is not some fucking small indie developer. They are a AAA studio on par with any other. All game companies address in their design pretty early the fairness challenge. That all players should have a reasonable chance to win the game at some point. Gatekeeping fairness behind nearly impossible grinding conditions is just bullshit. Specifcally a game for bullies. You like being a bully, we get it. But thats it. You were those fags on old servers when one side would lose consistently, would still remain on the winning side game after game, even after player counts were like 5 to 1. Gaming companies implemented autobalancing systems for the very reason bullies like you exist. Bungie apparently never got that, or hated that system. The weak are to be culled and only the strong thrive is their MO. But this is a recent development. Old Halo servers were NOT like this at all.
>>570137145Getting kind of tired of the argument being put forward that a hyper-niche fps sub-genre is an avenue for massive short term profit. There's like 6 games in this genre that anyone knows about and potentially played. 70% of the people playing these games are playing Tarkov and the other 30% kind of squabble over the rest. Hunt was maybe the most accessible before Marathon IMO because it did away with a lot of the simulation aspects and busywork and mostly concerned itself with the gunplay and map knowledge.
>>570138447I'm not saying that. I am saying that buying a new game and being put on the same team (duos vs trios) as another new player, and then being repeatedly dropped into a game whereby teams of elite ranked sweats are camping at exfil / POI's is not easy or fair to overcome. This douchebag >>570137605 makes it sound like its easy or you can practice your way out of the doom spiral. With starting gear, fights are pretty much one hit kills. Basically hide and go seek where the rewards go to the people who've been there the longest.
>>570136869>>570138447Just reread and saw you're complaining about random teams vs pre-made queues, instead of solo vs trio.My point still stands, of course a pre-made coordinated team has an advantage over 3 randoms. Why or how could it be different? The gear doesn't matter as much as you think, the most "meta" weapon right now (battle pistol) can be bought for cheap from armory once you get like the second cyac upgrade
>>570138827This is absolutely the case anon. Devs see this as the Next Big Thing™ multiplayer genre after battle royales and I'd bet money that Bungie was saying this to Sony in their buyout dealings to sell them on Marathon. It's undoubtedly why Marathon feels so close to a BR, since it's trying to bridge that gap to make it a bit more appealing. All these companies see Tarkov as the PUBG of its genre, and they hope they can be the Fortnite to itUnfortunately, Arc Raiders doing tremendously well has only further fueled this trend of more and more extraction shooters for the next 6 years at least. Hopefully they'll at least catch on that having a robust PvE option is the deciding factor on accessibility and widespread appeal instead of forgoing it to inevitably tank both the game and their studio
>>570138836By the way, I think the Rook is meant to address this concern. You queue up with a completely free kit into a match that's already started so you can catch other teams after they've already used resources on other team fights and may be out of position or distracted.Maybe Rook should get more powerful abilities to punish campers like Recons vision or something
>>570138514You still type like a dipshit. In a way, you're right, it is a game for bullies. That's the genre, you prey on people who are making mistakes. The misapprehension you're operating under is that a gear difference somehow makes this impossible, when it plainly does not. Even with gold shields, the majority of your effective health pool is still the health bar (120, with each tier of shield being 20). The difference in health between a free kit and a gold kit is 60. Yeah, that matters, but that's 30%. The difference in TTK between a grey kit's gun (say the very worst free kit, CE Tactical) and a purple kitted Bully - .35s, or 20% - with headshots the difference is even smaller, .11s.These ARE disadvantages, but they're surmountable with actually playing the game, ambushing instead of just sprinting into death. Getting shot in the back more than negates all the potential difference gear provided.
>>570138942Maybe you are the most popular human being in fucking history. I have friends on Steam, but just because I buy a fucking game doesn't mean everybody I know immediately does and coordinates their playing time with me. Bungie doesn't allow you to turn crossplay off, so if you want to play duos and trios you have to turn squad fill on with rando's from Favela's in Brazil, etc.. Say what you like "Get more friends, boo hoo, whatever" but most online shooters have a pretty good system to pair you up on servers when not locked into a squad or clan. Modern Warfare understands this and has skills based matchmaking, and despite its flaws, you get to team up pretty evenly with good players and shitters. Also, I'm not expecting to beat a squad of highly coordinated streamer sweats man. Nor should I expect gear to overcome that advantage. My point is why the fuck are level 30+ sweat squads on the same levels, CONSISTENTLY, as noobs. It's bullying plain and simple. Sad!
>>570139854>argues incessantly that the game is easy >finally admits yeah its a game for bullies like me, and its your fault you are a victim of my bullyingSociopaths are just the worst.
>>570139770>Devs see this as the Next Big Thing™ multiplayer genre after battle royalesIf this was even remotely true we'd be see far more announcements for ES games besides Marathon and Arc Raiders. I just don't believe it's a serious thing most companies are looking at. There's Beautiful Light but if I'm being honest that seems more like an ES got fused with the corpse of Evolve, since it's letting players control monsters and shit.
>>570140236>I refuse to learn how to play this game>the game should work differentlyYou know other games exist, right anon?
>>570080198>I mean it is probably the biggest flop of the year, not even saying that lightly or to get (you)s.It is unquestionably the biggest flop. In fact the only games left in the year with a big enough budget to contest it are Wolverine and GTA.Next biggest contender is Highguard. Total budget maybe 100k. This game lost a quarter billion dollars in it's launch period and has lost more money every month of it's existance.
>>570140526>Total budget maybe 100kmaybe go back to chart posting, this isn't working out for you
>>570081818See you in cryo. We're barely scavaging purple now as it is.
>>570132068I just noticed this post. Appreciate it. What I am trying to do is reliably be able to have some kind of shield pack for dropping in, so I don't get one hit killed by level 30+ sweats every game. I looked this up and Nucaloric is the only sponsor who allows you to buy shields with credits, which is what I want.The solo PVE server is basically what I want, and up until 10 minutes ago when it went live, there was no way to actually practice and get good for the reasons I mentioned. One hit kills from ambushing pros is NOT a practice in any way shape or forms.I appreciate it, but I'm just going to go back to MW and Destiny. My suspicions were confirmed by this guy and many others like him >>570139854. Its a game created by sociopaths for sociopaths where fairness or even footing is not even considered.
God what a bunch of crybabies
Is Sponsored Perimeter out yet?
>>570141445Yep, its up
>>570141728Excellent, Daddy needs his duct tape.
>nothing to do>boot this game>trio fill>we both just fuck around on the same area for like 20 minutes>finally ask each other what we're gonna do>all just reply different ways of "i don't know" or "just following your lead"cool content
If you need more than 3 stacks of ammo per gun for a match you're an absolute shitter honestly, kill a guy in solos and he unironically has 1k rounds of heavy ammo on him.
>>570141445>>570141728its amazingly boring holy shit
>>570142710I absolutely love it, its so comfy.
>>570142710It's just regular perimeter? It doesn't have like super UESC spawns or nuthin? Are Rooks even gonna bother queuing for it?
>>570142948Just finished one, got to a POI with six Ghosts in it and two Rocket Launchers
>>570143226>six Ghosts
>>570140831That's a wise move, not every game is made for every person and it seems like you wanted this to be something it's not. I wish you the best, dipshit anon.
Why did they buff ghosts these things are deadlier than fucking Commanders.
>>570142948it actually feels like less enimies, I've done 2 games and no rooks. If this is what PvEfags want then lmao. You're gf would be embarrassed if she saw you playing this
Alright done with the F2P.As far as I can tell the PVP element of the game completely and utterly dominates to the point of rendering the other two - fighting bots and searching for loot - secondary at best and most of the time outright harmful busywork. When I installed it I certainly didn't expect seeing myself camp a spot for 15 minutes until I can stab some guy and steal his shit, or entering a glorified TDM for the reward of a shopping spree across an empty map. This is not obvious when looking at the game from the outside, but rather something that emerges naturally as player solutions to getting ass raped repeatedly.I don't think that's a good design, I think it's a serious problem and one that should have been corrected long before the game's official release. There are ways, simple ones, to do exactly that; matchmaking, game modes, player respawns, etc. Marathon as it is gives off the feel of a small indie project made by the developer and his discord circlejerk and not a multi million dollar game by a some bigshot.Ah yes. Somehow, Marathon also has among the worst UI's I have ever seen, one that lacks even basic loadout functionality in a game where you are seemingly expected to lose your gear often. The closest thing it has are free kits, which I am sure are some sort of developer joke aimed at new players. The worthless pea shooter or the heavy machine gun ones I got the last few days certainly felt like that. To my surprise, you can't even take keys with them so you get double shafted.
>sponsored perimeter is 25 minutes with only final exfilErm
>>570145258They didn't make it shorter? In this time, you can clear out 4 PoIs no problem.
>>570145258>only final exfilIs the location random?
>>570145258its not final exfil there's normal exfil spawns all over the place
>>570140281You're clearly not keeping an eye on what's out there, leaving out ones that are PvE only, small dev projects and ones in early accessCoD MW4's new DMZ mode, Duskbloods, Hunger, Active Matter, EVE Vanguard, PUBG: Black Budget, Nakwon: Last Paradisde, SAND: Raiders of Sophie, Rules of Engagement: The Grey State, Exoborne, The Cube (doesn't say it's an ES, but by description it seems like it'll at least have strong elements of it), Gods, Death & Reapers. Probably one or two others I'm not aware of or forgettingThere's just been a steady trickle of ES over the years and we're really starting to get into the mass push for popularization of it, with games already out there available that have come out quite recently. Absolutely expect to see further announcements of ES over the upcoming yearsDon't forget how every single studio and then some were making battle royales, even when the well was already beyond dry with an incredibly oversatured market. The best argument about devs not rushing en masse to make ES is that the market in general is in a much shakier state than it used to be so companies might not want to stick their neck out and risk it as much
Okay I think sponsored survival perimeter is bugged I'm like 90% sure it put me in a full regular ass perimeter match but with no other players spawned. I'm solo and its showing me regular ass exfils. Just cleaned out hauler too and didn't get pushed at all.
>>570146503https://youtu.be/B2sh2SNec-Y
>>570146503maybe they fucked up and forgot about the exfil thing lmao
I thought sponsored Perimeter would have the same final exfil only gimmick but it's spawning all the normal exfils too. Bug or intended?
>>570146612>>570146691You also get credit for Pacesetter challenges even while solo in here.
>>570146503Same, cleared out Hauler and exfilled. Strangely enough, I saw signs of someone in the match with me when I saw an exfill disappear and then some UESC corpses in an unexplored areaSPooky
>>570143328I've done a few runs of PvE Perimeter.One POI had upwards to eight Ghosts and three more after we popped a box that alerted UESC.In one match, we went to Hauler and there were five Grenaders three blue and two purple grenades with a half or so dozen of the normal UESC troops all stuffed inside Hauler
>>570147343Probably a rook.
>>570147425>you want a pve mode here's your fucking pve mode, ONE MIRRIAN GHOSTS
>>570147425its been very easy going for me, free loot
>>570147507It's diffidently bugged. The easiest was one where all we saw were a patrol of UESC troops going from Hauler to that one POI NW-ish, just slowly walking that grassy fieldEven after popping a few things that should alert and spawn UESC, nothingBut in other cases we went down half a dozen times because one POI was FILLED with Grenders lobbin explosives at us, so many of them they were peppered on the roof and throwing them from inside exploding the windows and throwing more and none of us were Sentinal
After 40 hours of playing the game, I'm finally doing trios for the first time (but only in sponsored survival). Since we all have to take sponsored kits, no one's gonna get on my case for not having the best shit.It's not so bad really, it's basically the same as loading in with randoms in halo team deathmatch. I still prefer to handle priority contracts solo but this mode will be good for the generic contracts, like killing UESC and looting specific boxes
I wonder how many keys you could farm in solo sponsored perimeter....
>>570147458Yeah but I don't see any reason why a rook would queue it versus just running it solo themselves
>>570147925Yeah was playing solo and I fought my way through hauler and around 5 ghosts, a couple of grenadiers and 3 assault troopers and a handful of recruits. Thankfully pretty easy to knife them down in close quarters. Whole entrance was scattered with bodies and worthless loot. After looting Hauler two commander grenadiers spawned and I fucked off from there
>>570147925fill up your bags with mats while you can. no bag is annoying but cache might have one, not competing with other teammates for loot is amazing
>>570148473just ended a game and spec'd a rook in hauler
>>570147925>one POI was FILLED with Grenders lobbin explosives at usSounds kinda fun?
>>570147925From what I can tell, the match timers are standard, 25m, 60s final exfil when it should be 18m duration, 120s final exfil. And normal perimeter exfils spawn, when it should be final only. I found a Rook on my first run, so I think crew spawns work as intended, though I'm not sure when the Rook spawned (3 minutes in, or at the 15m mark)
>>570149413>60s final exfilwell this is dreadful
>>570103290To be fair the game completely changed direction mid development when they switched directors
>>570124657Marathon is both niche and has an experimental artstyle that makes it even more niche than tarkov
>>570145201yeah sponsored kits should leave a few slots open to hold things like a key imo. that would be so cool. but they probably won't do that.
>>570149528Old direction was still an extraction shooter but with big persistent maps
>>570150449Respawning on the same map available? If so sounds much better than current marathon.
>>570146503>Bungie makes a gamemode oriented more towards PvE>fully removes PvPTrying... not to... send... giga
>>570142858Same, i love it. Can take my time doing stuff.>>570142948Nah, you have Commander spawns, Wardens, downed dropships, etc. Its good, relaxing. Especially solo.
>>570150638It was gonna be a lite-mmo, persistent semi open world maps with PvE (overworld bosses) and occasional PvP, character creator, etc. That's why some people are joking around saying that the switch to PvE is just Marathon reverting to the original vision from Chris Barret. The second PvE experiment that is gonna run this mid season is gonna be crews having to band together to complete objectives throughout the match, which was something the original vision for the game was also aiming to have.
>>570136302trvke
so uhhh how do i git gud?In all seriousness though my friend/gaylover wants me to play this with him and I am AIDS at it.
>>570151213>The second PvE experiment that is gonna run this mid season is gonna be crews having to band together to complete objectives throughout the match, which was something the original vision for the game was also aiming to have.Where was this stated?
>>570151715Dev blog from a few weeks ago
>>570152053
>>570152053They should have matched this with the f2p period. Retards.
/dg/ods are laughing at us again
>>570151426no one will tell you how to "git gud" they prey on your lack of experience
>>570151426Biggest suggestion I can tell you is to just try to be as aware of various noises as you can be. If you've cleared a place take a second to listen, if you know you've killed everything at a POI and something is making noise or you hear a door opening it very well could be another team. People tend to tunnel vision with looting and will mentally shunt awareness to other people in the team but this is a mistake. Always listen and always assume there is a team rolling up on you until you get comfortable with player/team counting.
>>570152196I'm guessing that it's just not ready yet and they need the extra time to work on it and that the free week with the start of S2 was to obfuscate potentially poor numbers on returning players following a wipe just so the playercount doesn't look really terrible on paper since it'd just get even more shit flung Marathon's way which is the last thing it needs right now
F2poors gone tomorrow
why can't rook do contracts? that's fucking dumb
>>570154383Because its the SCAV character
>>570154640so what?
>>570154746SCAVs can't do PMC contracts in Tarkov and that's what they copied.
>>570151213>The second PvE experiment that is gonna run this mid season is gonna be crews having to band together to complete objectives throughout the matchI really loved this in Sponsored Survival Night Marsh. Crew fill of randoms, all split up and do separate towers, meet back up and try to complete upper complex before the time limit. Super fun
>already have to deal with knuckle dragging teammates hoovering up all the loot while I'm fighting bots or holding off players>can't even blow their brains out afterwards for being retarded faggots>now there's gonna be a PvE mode where 8 other people are gonna be doing the same thing except we can't kill them I think there's something to be said for being able to just dome a guy who pisses you off honestly. Wish that was a thing in more games.
>>570153164thanks m8. what's yer go to loaadout if you don't mind me asking?
>>570155961Been using the twin-tap lately for mid/long range and usually some kind of automatic for close quarters like the bully or kkv. Battle Pistol is a good secondary too.
assassins, man
>>570157271What was his battle plan?
>>570155818Sounds like a you problem
>>570157548At least have the decency to ping shit you don't want but is good while your grabbing shit with your grubby little hands.
>>570140831ok if you change your mind and wanna play, im in the discord posted in this thread. handle is space goose
>>570151426Listening, mostly. Turn off music, be aware of how far your sound travels>sprinting50m>jogging30m>crouchwalking10m>picking up loot/healing15-20m? Not sure about this oneHaving good headphones is the equivalent of having motion detector radar if you know what sounds mean what. Sound is also critical for stuff like the various little puzzles, Batteries in Cryo make a specific hum, the switches you have to find and shoot in Upper Complex for Night Marsh also make a certain noise, turrets, claymores, the yellow card boxes in Outpost, they all have a noise that will tell you one is nearby.Take note of where people tend to be, and don't sprint if you don't know an area is clear, if you hear someone sprinting towards you, you have about 2 seconds to jog to a defensible/hidden place and ambush them, and you'll generally win that encounter just by being in the right spot.A machinegun with a shield reduces damage you take per shot - this means you can basically face tank bots while you're aiming down sights, but individual shots from players hit harder so the defense goes less, but it's still often enough of an edge to win a 'both of you shoot each other' contest.If you don't feel confident in hitting headshots at all, the Volt Thrower doesn't have a headshot modifier - it also locks and has tracking on its shots, so it's a really good weapon for equalizing bad aim, though its effective range is very short.
>>570158730From what distance can you hear Marathoning?
I paypigged for the fun police recon set.
I need to finish up the storyline contracts by Nucaloric, I keep getting filtered by UESC, and now I just finally ran into a runner who killed me, I was wondering where the fuck was everyone. Should I keep using sponsered kits or just go in with loadouts from your vault?
>>570161279Eventually, you're gonna run out of vault space. you can sell them or just use them so you have something a bit better than the starter kits
>load in with 2 newfriends doing sekgen intro contract>entire fucking lobby descends upon orientationmatches like this just make me imagine how fun marathon crucible would be
>>570162535The moment I realized that I liked Marathon was when I realized the game is just Deathmatch in disguise. Suddenly everything made sense and it's all been uphill ever since, so to speak.
>>570162189>90% of early season consisted of doing quests which might as well have gifted a vault full of V66.>Usually do well enough with them with Triage to never really lose any.It's at the point where pretty much everything mid-value just feeds the Cradle furnace or i just make as many budget loadouts as possible.
>>570162790that's how you get over the so called "gear fear". Weapons and equipment come and go once you get going you'll always stay afloat. you'd have to be going out of your to lose things to run out again.
>>570159714Marathoning is audible at all distances, I can hear it even now, with the game off.
>>570163004>you'd have to be going out of your to lose things to run out againEven if you lose like six times your net worth in the vault, you get like anywhere between 4-5k value out of the daily stuff at bare minimum investment and if you're seriously hurting for creds can always just run Survival. In the case if you're even like at 10k or completely running dry on money, even 2.5k in value is already enough to ascend over the average sponsor poverty baseline.
>>570161115It is worth it. So is Battlepass this season.
>>570162790Keep in Vault things that you like aesthetically, much like trophies in a collection or museum pieces. Also mats and consumables. Everything else is expendable.
the marathon reddit wants validation for buying into this shit so badly i can't tell if its funny or sad
>>570163542Is the battle pass the one that comes with the deluxe kit?
oh fuck I finally found one
>>570166758>you can't keep itFUCK
>>570165071Not sure. Deluxe is its own thing.
Is this actually for night marsh, or dire marsh like the UI says
>>570167998Couldn't hurt to go night marsh. I think most dire marsh contracts can be completed there.
>>570167998Unless the mission objective specifically mentions things like certs or doing towers I think you can just do them in either version.
man how the fuck do I stop forgetting that I have grenades
I still had shit to do on night marsh
>>570167998You can do it on NMarsh. Some you can, others you cannot.
>outpost, doing the sekiguchi contract solo>finally manage to get to the roof of processing after going to orientation by mistake>kill a sentinel hiding in the upper floors>destroy the two wraiths>get the data bank and DCON it>almost get killed by a guarded exfil>run out of ammo>run out of heals>run out of shield>fucking nothing left, time runs out, last exfil pops>3-4 bots around it>pop a smoke grenade, it lands NEXT to the exfil circle>stand nervously in the smoke for 10-15 secs hoping the cloud doesn't go away until the very last second>run into the circle, get spotted and shot at>exfilESCAPEWILLMAKEMEGODblast status: had
Why would my PC shutdown during a run?
Honestly surprised on the turnaround I had on this game. Went from being put off by being killed, to getting to grips with the combat/systems, to actually really enjoying it.Definitely gonna buy it. Tomorrow I guess? I don't know when the free period expires.>>570169861I feel you - if you use the freekits you get used to G being a fucking ammo crate
Playing trios made me softI was foolish enough to think i could convince a rival solo runner to not kill mei died for it. So stupid of me, i should have just went in guns blazing and search and destroy active, i'd have won the shootout.
>>570103290Did it really cost that much to develop? It's polished enough, but there's just so little to the game. I'm thinking of taking a gamble on the game and buying it now hoping the new experimental modes make it worthwhile.
sentinel is fucking useless dawg
I'm slowpoking but I finally realized what Sony wants with Marathon. They want another one of these but backed by them so they can get more money.
>>570173381Closer to the $10B figure actually.
>>570173381It's a GAAS. They 100% have stuff already made but under lock and key to roll out as time passed.The only people who actually know how much is already made and ready to go is Bungie and Sony.Unless Bungie actually are making this as they go in which case literally everyone involved in any way has gone completely insane god damn.
>>570173416It's somehow worse than Vandal.All of it's abilities are useless and are niche beyond niche to even use.If you bring a Sentinel to a Trio you are actively crippling and killing a potential successful run.
>>570174685>worse than vandalWait, is vandal bad? I love her arm cannon and the stam boost is great when the rest of the trio decides to fuck off to the other side of the map unexpectedly
>>570173381https://steamcommunity.com/app/3065800/discussions/0/804592995637915459/https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/04/09/checking-in-on-marathon-a-month-after-launch/>Inb4 /mg/ goes schizo or triggered due to the link sources.
>Marathon is supposed to be the next big thing>Every match is most players losing everything so the winning team can have a good time>Bungie thinks this is a recipe for success Battle royales were popular 10 years ago, and players didn't have to spend 10 min building a loadout between matches or run a premade trio just to not get rapedactually what the fuck were they thinking
>>570174427Going by how much content was given in the Jun 9th Update and what was actually given (numerious things player have been begging for over a decade) it's clear to most people that the sources of crippling a game and making it good are the higher-ups at Sony and Bungie (CEO/Shareholders) and refusing to listen to the developers.
playing on free and only a few runs in. as you level factions, are all your upgrades applied to your character no matter what faction you're working for?
>>570176058yes. you work for cyac and do contracts for the other factions, you only work for cyac really. they're the closest you have to a boss. but you keep all the upgrades until the season wipes. however this season all the upgrading of stats is handled through cradle, and faction upgrades are just for buying things from the armory.
Is Marathon even trying?
>>570172370Overheating? I've noticed my cpu temp is way higher in Marathon than anything else I play.
>Traxus sells silencers for volt weapons with the 2nd upgrade for barrel attachments
>>570174427>>Unless Bungie actually are making this as they go>ceaseless experimental modes>plan for a complete revamp of the game's wider format in a year's time>barely maintaining a five digit player count all the whilem8 they're fucking stumbling around and desperately trying to figure shit out even now
>>570172096k keep me posted
>>570178342>>570172370CPU gets almost 50%, with two cores near maxed, in a 9800x3d. The GPU of course 100%. So imagine...
>>570175093>actually what the fuck were they thinkingme every week when bungie yet again saves all the obvious qol changes for the maintenance mode patch >>570174427>Unless Bungie actually are making this as they go...Cinematics aren't free, they definitely have a ton of seasonal content stockpiled. They just weren't expecting to get punished so hard for making the game part of the game subpar so now they're a/b testing a ton of modes to try and recover
>>570174427My guess is that they've at least got all the content up to season 5 panned out since that's as far as they mentioned of what they've got planned in the future, wouldn't be surprised if it goes beyond that. At the very least stuff like maps, shells, weapons, enemies and such for up until then have long been probably done and at most are going through testing for balancing. With a massive developer like Bungie, shit doesn't get made in a day>>570175093It's genuinely baffling. Over 20 years of cultivating an audience of largely casual low/no stakes PvE players and you make a hardcore niche PvP game. I understand not wanting to make a competing product, but it seems to me like it's business 101 to stick with what you're good at and known for. I've heard the rumor that numerous times throughout development junior devs said the game needed a PvE component but the heads at Bungie said nah, which going along with what >>570175138 is saying, some times lead devs are retarded and too up their own asses for their own good
If the maps were a bit bigger it'd be less of a slugfest and people wouldn't feel compelled to full wipe the map every round. When you can get from North Relay to Overflow in like 70 seconds there's a bit of a disconnect.
>>570180941I actually thought it would be one big map that you drop into that already has players in it. I think there was another extraction shooter that played like that so I made that assumption. Didn't expect it to basically be a small battle royale game.
>>570181484You're thinking of Grey Zone Warfare which does have a persistent game world but it's split up between full PvE and the standard PvPvE system. I think that community tends to lean PvE and it's fun for what it is.
>>570181571I'm guessing he was probably thinking more of The Cycle: FrontierGZW is a bit different since it's just a persistent lobby with the same people in it the entire time you play until you back out of the menu and join a new one. The Cycle had a persistent map you'd drop in so players would cycle through
>>570181801Never played the cycle so I wouldn't know
Bros I hate fills so fucking much they're all so retarded. Why couldn't my faggot friends just learn to play extraction shooters that aren't fucking PvE Tarkov?
>>570182279because they have taste and self-respect and you don't
>>570182024That's because the design of a persistent lootable map was retarded and it flopped.
The only way Bungie survives is if they can some how pull off something akin to Digital Extreme with Warframe or No Man's Sky.Bungies getting canned in six months give or take; Sonys tired of dealing with them and Japanese CEO is more focused on actually good games and game developers from Japan when Western Devs are awful.
>>570181801I worded that a bit poorly, should have said that The Cycle you'd have your little hub area where you got quests and did your stash stuff and all, then you'd go into a raid and be dropped into a persistent online map where other players might already be in it, when you exfilled you'd load back into your hub, so everytime you went on a raid you'd be loading into a new world. GZW is just one big lobby with 48 players max and you're never leaving the map or switching lobbies unless you choose to>>570182279I'm at the point where I got some good games in trios during free week with my friends and actually really made me want to play more Marathon, as opposed to my experience of only trying it for free during a closed beta and the server slam, but playing solo can easily be abysmal and they're not the type to play as much as I want and stick with it to a decent degree. I don't want to go through the trouble of trying to find a group of people to play with that have the right vibe>>570182406It flopped because it's genuinely the inevitability of most PvP extraction shooters, it's just too niche a genre and for the longest time any ES game that came out was just momentary distraction for Tarkov players
I have a vision of a game like Marathon but where you have to contract with a faction and compete with other factions on a persistent map to see who gets the most resources over the course of a week long battle. The faction with the most resources after a week moves up to the next tier of competition similar to realm vs realm MMOs. The map would be procedurally generated every week with higher tiers of competition having more challenging maps. It would have a nice progression where whole factions move up and down, but also individuals can rank up in their faction or get offered a contract to join higher tier factions by distinguishing themselves at the lower tiers.
>>570182668warframe was crowdfunded from the get-go to resounding immediate success and a wildly enduring life up until nowand the notion of some NMS-style turnaround is exceedingly farcical though they've indicated they're going to try for it in about a year's time with what will probably amount to a relaunchthe ship is already sailed tho i don't think there's any correcting the awful course at hand
>>570182279The only time fill is bearable is when you're doing cryo, since there's a higher chance of getting competent and well equipped players with mics that know what they're doing instead of the shitkit mutes that just run off making as much noise as possible
>>570183190Yes, both of those games were made on shoestring budgets while Marathon was made on a AAA budget so there's less time to turn things around before the higher ups start laying people off. Bungie has done everything ass backwards. You can't make a small experimental game on a AAA budget. They should have approached it like Fromsoft's Nightreign, as a cheaply made spinoff.
I swear if I hear a person who is vocally 1-2 SD below the average I'm going to start leaving matches. Basically signing up to waste 30 minutes with people like that + mutes that have no survival instincts whatsoever. Oh you're the "hole up in a choke and fuck the enemy team" character? Yeah run back into the open to get killed instead of getting inside fucking Complex with the rest of us you stupid fucking bitch. Jesus fucking Christ.
next week's patch will save the game, trust.
ez 20k amirite???
aside from the usual daily player drop, how bad will the f2p drop be? either way it will be embarrassing. if its the same drop as seen in the past several days, that means that nobody gave enough of a shit to even try it out. if its a drop of 5k or more, that will be embarrassing because then there are like 10k players left, one week into season 2.
The battle pistol is fucking broken. Abuse the shit out of it before it gets nerfed
>>570174427Probably not but considering that Bungie had 5 total incubator games that they put most of their devs on and Marathon was the only one to actualyl get finished I think all together it's pretty close
It just isn't fun. I don't like pvp. Every single loss feels like wasted time. I feel worse playing marathon than I did after destiny sunset all the content I paid for. what the FUCK is bungie doing
>>570191825a game for everyone is a game for no one chud ;^)
Why not just play a battle royale like Apex?
>>570192403no niggerbrained dopamine pathways conjoined to feelings of accumulation are stimulated
>>570192403I like the downtime of looting, I like picking up shit.
>>570192403Immersion and cross match progression. The feeling of beating much better geared players because you're better prepared or positioned is priceless. Of course, Marathon is shit at that and ends up playing like Apex (dogshit) anyway, but go play EFT or the old version of Hunt Showdown and you'll know what I mean.
>>570190443The drop is probably going to look worse because people are doing the Destiny 2 going away stuff, but I think we'll probably end up back at 20k for most of the season. Pretty standard population for an extraction shooter. Considerably resilient since the worst people in the world have a hard-on for hating Marathon rn.
>>570191825Just play sponsored Perimeter. Its very fun.Also, met a friendly rook. All 4 of use exfilled, and i gave him a bonsai tree.
Bungie needs to lean into the extraction shooter side of Marathon and stop with the half-assed PvE shit. They're going to ruin the game and then have no devoted playerbase, and Destinyfags are not going to just switch while they're in their jilted lover mode.
Still think the game could be elevated if match timers were 35m and it was like 15% more simmy and the maps were 20% bigger.
>>570193860>Bungie needs to lean into the extraction shooter sidehow to kill a game further 101. literally most of the feedback from the free week for those who even gave a shit was "it's not for me, this type of genre isn't fun, i like the gunplay but progression isn't fun" and so onstop treating this like it's an indie project by a small studio who can survive on a niche market, this shit had 400 mil poured into it. it's need a genre pivot.
>>570193860i truly dont think they would switch even if bungo added pve. i think in this case it's lose-lose. some anon a thread or two ago suggested just going all in with pvp and adding an arena-style lobby with modes like capture the flag and see if that brings in the casual crowd, i have started to agree with this sentiment over the past couple of days.
>>570193860They should do both.
>>570194467Didn't Tarkov do that before they did SPT? Bungo could get a win by having their Arena mode bundled into the game instead of being a separate purchase.
>full pve eXpErImEnTaL qUeUe gets added in howevermany weeks>not even a 20k peak
>>570194926>grey sponsor kitIts fun but not THAT fun.>team immediately decides to fight Warden without proper equip>both of them die while i get better guns in HaulerI told them right off i am not coming back to save their asses.>second team>listens to me>get to Hauler>get guns/ammo/nades/medkits>just two of us dunk on Warden while third is off doing his contractsNeat.
I have 287 hours in Marathon should I check out Tarkov?
>>570194613hard to remember. but it would be an easy win yes.the worst part about all of this is the anon above is totally right, free week failed, and sony WILL see that. getting anything greenlit that wasnt ALREADY apart of the plan.....shits grim
>>570195169If you want.
>>570193483>but I think we'll probably end up back at 20k for most of the season....right, just like how S2 was going to save the game, or no wait cryo>Considerably resilient not what i would call it but whatever floats your cope
I will continue to play the game and not worry about playercounts until I just stop finding matches.simple as.
>>570195313Perhaps I will
>>570193483>the worst people in the world have a hard-on for hating Marathon rndeplorable ghouls, all of usless hate and more hysterical schadenfreude towards a long debased and hollowed out bungo btw
>>570195496>less hate and more hysterical schadenfreude towards a long debased and hollowed out bungo btwcope
>>570195496I haven't even played Destiny at all since Bungie missed out on making me a fan not releasing 1 on PCI'm just pissed they fumbled this so bad because the aesthetics are incredible, the lore awesome, the gunplay feels great, just everything about the game is fantastic save that they decided to make it a fucking extraction shooter
>>570195610little to cope about mangbungo lost the plot as soon as they finally acted on the idea of being too good for halodestiny was never goodmarton will sink the company completely at this rateright down sony's gullet
>>570103290The fact that they saw the results of the server slam and did NOT slam on the fucking brakes shows you where they were. Unless this was a "pass this gallstone, and we can get onto the next game", but there IS no next game.
>>570192403played apex for a 1000 hours, ive had enough
Was just trying to do a contract and some assholes were camping inside the infested building... Also I had to restart the game because I loaded in with a stuck character.
>>570194068>Still think the game could be elevated if match timers were 35m and it was like 15% more simmy and the maps were 20% bigger.Make perimeter/marsh 200% larger and I'd agree. The theme park poi's, tiny maps and simplified itemization does the story and art direction dirty.
>>570103690It's only viable if Sony is willing to support them for a full AAAA level of support no matter what.>>570103758LOL. Maybe I should just bait you every thread.
>>570196221>Make perimeter/marsh 200% larger and I'd agree.>the run from North Relay to Hauler would be like 5 minutes and Data Wall be like 1km longMite B Cool
if this keeps up ziegler is going to be very sad and might even have a sob on twitter :(
>Doing some sponsored perimiter to play catchup on rep and basic unlocks after vacation>Also doing random shells to get the nucaloric skins>Random Vandal run>Ends with efil having gold shield ghost commander, the rocket drone and at least two rooks all starting shit>Other two guys dead and so far away can barely see them>Right as the last seconds hit pop charged cannon to knock everything back, also apparently getting mastery for killing more than 3 guys with it at once>Powerslide in and get out>Watch last guy drop dead>get out with 8k and a cheesburger>They greeded out and had a bunch of purples and lost over 20k eachAside from that its a comfy pve rep farm in my experience but that ended on a fucking shitshow.
>Load up on guns, bring your friends>It's fun to lose and to pretend
Let me guess, you need more?
Any other games that have good sound design instead of blasting an annoying soundtrack? Game music is a pet peeve of mine so I appreciate that part of Marathon, unfortunately it's a boring game and I don't want Sony getting their dirty hands on my money.
>>570154869That's still completely fucking idiotic. The UESC has shit they want to do presumably. They really don't give a fuck about rook play, and don't want it to distract from their trio grintdfest. They didn't think about the progression and just use them more so they don't have to make more enemies.
>>570196940The UESC is vehemently agaisnt third party runners. and it's not like they don't have their own in house runners either 100% going to be a recurring character/enemy at some stage mark my words, since Orion is explicitly labeled as a runner.
>>570196940>>570197172A game mode where you are working for the UESC as part of one of their sanctioned runner crews (these do exist in the lore) would be neat. I imagine it might be what the PvE mode even is.
>>570173381I have it at 300 million for launch, marketing inclusive. 50 million rev. Losing more every month. Bungie is incredibly slow. The turmoil and Metooing Chris, and losing talent with his exit also fucked shit up. >buying it now hoping the new experimental modes make it worthwhile.I've seen this gamble from destiny people. Absolutely do not buy it unless you are willing to accept it now as it is.>>570174427>Unless Bungie actually are making this as they go in which case literally everyone involved in any way has gone completely insane god damn.You see the massive drop in stability at the start of season? They have a very limited amount of time before GTA 6 closes all the extracts. Thing is an extra map or shell isn't going to save this. If this game survives, it will need to look very different than it does now.
>>570197475lol what the fuck is there to fight if you're there on uesc warrant and they ostensibly aren't simultaneously trying to get you killed with their robots
>>570178220Some anons seem to think that they're literally not ,to not outrun expectations.
>>570197625ayys and anomaly beasts.
i think bungie having over two hundred employees at once is the root cause of overdelivery being a hazard :^3
>>570182279You aren't a good enough leader.
>>570184842Skill issue. You can't demand to be carried every match. And by skill issue, I mean social skill issue. This game is made for sweaty premade 3s, and you are a fucking loser.
>>570190443Why speculate? The people will be there or they won't. I think first cryo will be big, and a hilarious shitfest, and directly convince a bunch of people to quit on the spot..
>>570194381Genre pivot to a playerbase that didn’t even play the game they claim they want when it has 12 years of content. You all just need to fuck off back to /dg/.
>>570191825Why the fuck are you playing this game at all?
>>570198218I may be schizoing out but I don't think they actually are. I think it's just shit and bait posting.
>>570193860>>570194467Well, PVE mode here is fucking ass. I don't think even destinyfags would go for it.I mean if you're going to do weird, expensive shit to it, you might as well start over with a new game.
>>570197951Back to your containment thread faggot
>>570196748Oh well, whatever, nevermind.
>>570197625Aliens, anomalities, malfunctioning robots. AI controlled shells.>>570197780It's ratio of burn rate to content.
>>570198427With a shit attitude like that, no wonder you don't have anyone who wants to play with you. Enjoy your fills. I doubt you'll get far enough to get matched with my teams anyways.
Sponsored Survival Outpost is going to be so fucking stupid.
>>570196773i need head from white rabbit recon
>>570191825the first month of the game was dominated by assassins corner camping with wstr shotguns this isn't a serious pvp game at all, arc raiders is miles ahead for pvp despite currently being gangbanged by cheaters dupers and teamers
>>570200626you looking for a serious PVP game?counter-strike 2 better yet, starcraft, ideally brood warreal competitive games for real competitive gamers
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>>570200950im saying pvp in marathon is a joke, fucking grand theft auto has better pvp and in that game you could just pay to nuke people from space
>>570201610i'm saying pvp isn't much worth speaking of outside the bounds of of the most utterly distilled, refined, and perfected forms of itstarcraft may be an rts and outside the bounds of the gamut of what fps niggers are interested in but it is far and away the most demanding game on the planet to play seriously to such an extent that it makes most of everything else look embarrassingly infantile
>>570193860>jiltedAnother day, another word discovered.
>>570195496>Hanging out in a general of a game you don't play just because I like seeing it perform poorlyI guess you got the "hysterical" part right.
>>570202821Hey, without them, the general would get demoted to vm. And the way things are going, it's gonna end up there anyways. Can't even keep the general up.
Doing trios fill for the first time and holy fuck these people are selfish, i'm constantly starved of patches because these shitters use them constantly and steal them the moment i pop an enemy and while i was fighting they looted all the cases.Then when i fuck off alone they instantly both die and i need to res them.
>>570199361I don't think that mode should exist. Hell, Outpost should have like a 1k ante.
>>570202981That's a ridiculous premise. If the FNAF general is still here, then we could easily survive without the hate wagon.
>doing duos narsh with my buddy>dead silent the whole game other than us fighting bots>10m left in the match, haven't even seen an exfil>we run into a friendly rook who asks if we've seen anyone>tell him no and he goes off on his own>decide to exfil with 5m left in the match at AI Uplink>after match cam shows a team fighting a rocket drone at Maintenance>didn't hear any of this at allDid they fuck up the sound again?
The game is good, but it feels thin in a lot of respects.The lore is cool and refreshing as is the art and media around the gamebut the 3D assets in game don't carry that same feeling or (I hate the word) caliber - it feels duplicitous, like there's a mismatch between the art direction and actual game development going on. People do pick up on this, not sure what bungo thinks they are getting away with.The action can feel paper thin and lacks weight, and there is some animation jank. Just overall comes across as half-assed.The sound design is good, but could use refinements. They layer on stuff on and it can be a bit too much.Not even mad for $30 bucks>>570202354
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>all night marsh is is thief niggers sitting in the middle of nowhere with their visors on with free thermals
>>570199361>>570203204Whats wrong with outpost? new bad old good?
