>Sentinel Masterieshttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_1_0_1>Welcome to Season 2https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/welcome_season_2>Youtube and Twitter:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGamehttps://x.com/MarathonTheGame>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/Previous run: >>570204815
lol
Season one shield icons, soul
Early season one implant icons, SOUL
>>570430745soul
Implants look tasteless in season two, no style.
>>570430549l00l
exactly how nerfed is the disinfector? is it a vault queen/trophy now or does it still fuck?
so should I play cryo crew fill or am I just going to get my shit pushed in 2 minutes by gold premades?
>>570430957mehthe new symbols are an improvement
>>570431283You can clearly see if it's for the head, torso, or legs now. But, it was weird and charming at launch... It was special
>>570431339I guessthey should add a touch of color to new symbols
>>570431265You should play it
Do assassin have some core that tells them when they get pinged because every time I use my pulse as recon even if they aren't nearby they all instantly go invis
>>570431265crew fill cryo can be miserable but you have a higher chance of getting getting paired up with people who do know what they're doing. Getting a 5k loadout together isn't impossible, and it's worth for the chance to get some scraps or a potential lucky fight
>>570431243okay, nvm. it definitely doesnt do as much as it did before, but its still fucking.
sentinel's prime is so fucking useless it's unreal, I literally just had a team bombard us with frag grenades and despite being in range and having clear line of sight it didn't zap a single one out of the air
>>570431979>Do assassin have some core that tells them when they get pingedNo. Recon pulse activation is loud, I can hear it from a distance. Also, copetroller players, who did not deactivate Dualsense vibration, can feel Recon's pulse in their hands, the controller tells them.
sometimes i free kit into outpost fills just to have a recon straddle me as she finishes me off
This game is literally being mogged by a racing game within D2
>>570432805>Also, copetroller players, who did not deactivate Dualsense vibration, can feel Recon's pulse in their hands, the controller tells them.lmao wtf
>>570431283>new symbols are an improvementThe problem was, and still is, that you can’t recognize what each implant does at a glance. You know which slot it fits into but you don’t know what it does for you and that slot. Bungie just made the implants uglier and totally ignored the feedback they kept getting which was, and still is: “I don’t want to have to highlight and read these fucking things one at a time to know what they do and if I should replace what I have equipped with them instead.” Little thing #47294729 keeping Marathon in chartposter territory.
>Fill cryo team has a mute recon that doesn't listen to the other random and I and keeps wasting time and dying to recruit bots>in the same lobby we have to deal with a 6-man team up of players who all admit they're on discord and have each other friended as they kill us>they have one team camp my team mates bodies while the other team chases me non-stop around the map
Man I'll never complete this Defeat 2 Runners contract. I just don't have it; I want be the one who's ambushing another runner instead of being the one just moving literally anywhere on the map before getting gunned down in seconds but everyone else just has something I don't.
>>570434794How do you even queue stack in this game?
>>570434794>so addicted you keep playing despite having such little funAnon…
>>570434841in trios your team's kills should count towards the quest as well
>fill up my vault with blue and purple before cryo>now don't feel like playingwell shit
>>570435291I take blue and green to Cryo, to replace it with purple or gold. That's why I want to play, I don't even know what to look for to activate the first exfil. I exfilled like 5 times, if my teammates don't get the coolant or batteries for whatever the fuck needs it, we'll just die. I refuse to die to players tho.
>>570434071It goes bing-bing wahoo, when you get Recon pulsed.
marathon is prob even more hardcore than tarkov desu. you have to pay attention every second and tryhard if you want to win. focus up.
>>570434952if you play in a low pop region like I do (OCE) you can do it somewhat reliably by just searching for a game at the same time. Most cryo games I see someone's name I'm familiar with pop up in the feeds. It's just an unfortunate consequence of the small playerbase
>>570436720Damn OCE femboys look like THAT?
this game is miserable
>>570437067Why? You don't want to ambush and rob people?
no guys extraction hero shooter is makes perfect sense for the IP that was the literal precursor to Halo, very much worth dumping 400 developers into
That PvE mode better be fucking bananas for having to wait till mid-season when we've already lost the f2p guys.
>>570437501The only bananas here are my boners up the Thief main's bussy
>>570436618lmfao are you high?
>here's your gear advantage saars
>dedicated Marathon 2026 game folder
>>570430745>>570430957They are going to be changed again, probably this season.
First time seeing a matchmaking canceled error. I think this game might actually be dying.
>>570438667NTA but you could argue it's hardcore in that it forces conflict more than Tarkov. Obviously systems wise Tarkov has so much more complexity/milsim autism bait, and the ever present possibility of getting killed in one bullet is pretty fuckin hardcore - but avoiding conflict is apparently more in the cards in Tarkov, where Marathon facefucks you with pvp whether you want it or not.
>>570439565day 90 of game dying
I kind of keep forgetting how shit melee is now until you put points into it.
I love playing Marathon, and I'm buying singleplayer games
Where are the pride month faggot rainbow skins? I'm not gay, I want to use them to piss someone off after I gank him
Is it true that only sweats play Marathon?Would skill-based matchmaking even work, if there are no normal players on standard maps.
>>570442228no because people would use reverse boosting mechanics
>>570442304Right on the money. We can do this till Jesus comes back.
>>570442304>>570443441You two stupid faggots are a plague upon this general. It would work for the majority of players while autistic retards like you make easier lobbies happen by self-selecting at the start of a run.
>>570443929>It would work for the majority of players while autistic retards like you make easier lobbies happen by self-selecting at the start of a run.Rephrase that, i don't understand what you mean. Self selecting what?
>share real useful game advice>how to set sound, how to win more >get called a plagueUngrateful
>Cryo unplayableAbout to take green guns, blue shield, and still kill golds
>>570444030You don't join the run because you don't even understand Arc's aggression system, you end up creating more 30 minute sessions without you playing more than you actually do play, and self select out of the main pool while thinking you're griefing someone.
>>570446535In friendly lobbies grown man literally scream and cuss me out for jumping them at extract. I have hundreds of videos with audio.
>>570446687Yes, faggot, I'm aware because you talk about this in literally every thread but your impact is miniscule and nobody cares. You're so fucking obnoxious.
>>570446748It all adds up. I make thousands rage per season. Many other players are doing the same thing, just to ruin a lobby.Numbers don't lie, right? Marathon too sweaty, Arc bleeding players like crazy.
thinking of playing marathon but when i look at the load-in screen im physically unable to continue. im not even a terrible player, but too much stress ig
>>570447413What map do you like to play? I'd join.
People keep yapping about Marathon losing players, but look at this. I did this!It's beautiful.
>>570447547We did it. Together.
>>570448062Brotherman <3
>>570438796Amazing how the only replies you ever got on these were people calling you a faggot and telling you no one cares about your controller aim assist kills
thinking of playing marathon but when i look at the load-in screen im physically erect. Because I'll fuck the shit out of anyone who breathes within 100 Meters
>>570447446thanks man but i think i'll a break, been playing every day since s2
>>570448108I love doing this, my favorite activities in vidya, is creating annoying, uncomfortable situations for people. What I get called doesn't matter, I can sense how frustrated people get. I can see them make mistakes, get nervous, panic. And when someone's fearless, they're still noticeably frustrated, irritated. I love this!
>>570448540You're really showing your insecurity right now, the way you try to hide your naturally repulsive personality by pretending it's intentional. Nobody likes you and it's because of who you are.
>>570448645I never lied about being a spiteful subhuman, the niggest of them all. I'm very good at fucking people up in games ;^)
Calling a Marathon enjoyer's personality repulsive, is a compliment. It makes one feel cool, evil, nasty. Bwahahaahahaha Euueheheheh
is there some kind of bug that lets vandal shoot while she has a battle pistol even while she's sliding? I just got downed by one in cryo who was able to slide around and shoot me mid slide
>he's now talking to himself
>>570449006you forgot the naruto pic, here
Out fucking skilled. Man, I wish I played FPS games when I was a kid.
2 retards fighting over who is dumber.
>>570426971>much much morecitreq retard
>>570450183>>570450526what do you use to convert your footage to webms?
>>570452321Webm for Lazys.
Does anyone ever use the charge shot functionality on the V11?
>>570443441>PicIt's interesting that the avatar faggotry has decreased by a lot. I guess that rule finally got enforced.
>>570452298>tarkov actually has billions playing on their launcher
>in the darkness of Complex>hear someone running up behind me>turn around>barely see a silhouette pass by>start shooting>it was a fucking ghost>real guy is 15 meters away and gets free shots on meFirst time this feature has been an actual detriment. Felt a little unfair since the ghost spawned in a spot I had just walked past.
>>570452643Sometimes
>>570452896He knows people are waiting to report him if he's too obnoxious about avatarfagging. Can't report him otherwise since mods/jannies don't recognize schizos most of the time.
What did Bungie mean by this?
>>570455540Stable 10k
>>570452643The best usage i've found for it is dropping shields, activating Triage EMP on vital targets (Destroyer) or doming someone fleeing from usually close to something that could be considered rifle range. It's why i think it's such a versatile pistol too, it's decent in CQC fights with high damage and can still perform a utility role at longer range too.
>>570457719Does charging do more damage than just rapid fire? Is there a projectile speed difference?
>>570442228>Would skill-based matchmaking even work>skill-based matchmaking>game punishes you for improving by putting you in harder lobbiesIt would work to destroy the playerbase even further, yes.
>>570458789(((studies))) show that SBMM/EOMM helps player retention, otherwise why would every major game implement it
>>570458136122 to the head, hitscan and it suffers from no damage fall-off up to around 30 or so meters. It's also pretty notable that the prestige mod is built around using the charged shot to drop shields and overheat targets, which reinforces the role of the charged shot even further.
Cheap and effective Cryo Archieve loadout for large penis gamers>LMGYou want to be able to continuously spray bullets in the general direction of bubble shields. Non-stop streams of bullets make it uncomfortable to advance.>BullyBecause fuck that sissy pistol>Blue shieldPlace holder, we'll replace it.
>>570459778Hats off to the large penis gamers, who always exfiltrate
>>570452896>>570454067Rent free niggas, I was playing the game
>>570460291Hey can you post a few more pictures of that anime character? He's really cool :)
./mg/ sisters, when will your bussies stop quivering? No need to worry about me, I won't abandon you, until this fall.
>>570460291What anime is this Anon, any more screens?
>>570460291>>570450114>>570447163>>570438667>>570436720>>570434794
>>570460634Annie May website
>>570460503Yea, click on this one, before you deepthroat me
My weiner's so hard from thinking about that Modern warfare PvpVe. OOhhhh
>priority contract done, need to exfil to complete>only two exfils on the map at the moment, one guarded and one regular (opposite side of the map)>head to the guarded one, I can figure out what to do when I get there>hear gunfire ahead of me>see the exfil is activated and the circle is empty>lob a smoke into the circle, run in, crouch and weave taking shots before exfil>spectator cam immediately pops to the POV of the guy who was camping the exfillmaoalso I found a cat
>>570461463You cute, I like you
>>570460486maybe /mg/ will get a new map for season 3
>>570461630What's the point, /mg/ wants to discuss numbers and their feelings, they won't have the balls to win on a new map.
>>570461739I will win
>>570461739but in MW you have to reverse boost to achieve balance
>>570461852*in the PvE "survival" versionRight broski?
>play cryo for the first time this season>use the shitty sponsored kit (would have lost it earlier but bungie had that weird bug that cockblocked this kit so you had to use this kit and I wasnt ready to lose my purple stuff)>anyway 2 purples oh shit let's go>we get to control and i ult>2 teams below us and we get ult back>we rotate to panopticon to that small place just right before the clearance 4 rom>hear people fighting but not sure if it's the first 2 teams>ult again>one team behind us, and like 3 teams again below us>we get ult back, and then another nigga ults (on ps5 you can tell by your controller vibrating)>stalemate.mvk>slowly we get BTFO to bits, my team mate gets rekt by the nigga in front of us, they can't push because sentinel and a well place shield>we res him, and two other teams below are fighting while we just camp like bitch ass niggas, then i go down the stairs and get BTFO by another sentinel>my assasin ults and i get res'd>we push out of the bottom stairs, we kill two niggas>we realise the two teams below got rekt by those two niggas we just killed>the last team is in the vents camping????????? and we just nade them the fuck out, then another sentinel shows up and kills my team mate and almost kills me but i stole one of those OP pistols from dire marsh and clutch the win>we steal a key>32k + a bunch of purple shit and a gold alloythank you for carrying me but we would have lost if i hand stolen all those energy amps from all those bodies at the start to spam recon ult
>>570460486why this fallGTA IV is not coming out this year
>>570452896idk why you fags hate that guyhe only does it in Arc which is hilarious cuz Arc is reddit general
I'm so, so, SO, tired of people insisting games need PvE; especially when the game began as a PvP game. No one plays PvE games anymore, everyone plays PvP or PvP adjacent games nowadaays.People who insist PvE isn't dead or worse, needed, are Millennial and Gen Z Boomers, no one fucking wants to play boring single-player games old manAdding PvE to Marathon would kill the game in its entirely, completely. None of the PvP players want PvE in this game.
I love this worm like you wouldn't believe>inject yourself with this random substanceyou got it queen>>570461559thanks anon, I like you too
how rare are circuit breakers these days? i used to solo spam pinwheel all day and find like 1 once in a blue moon.wallah and his cuck squad all got onetapped by a circuit breaker in cryo the other day. not sure if the non gold one can do that tho
>>570463634>not sure if the non gold one can do that thoAt full charge and optimal range, definitely can. It's seeming that all three shotguns are currently rarer in this Season, most likely to give the SMG/Sidearm options more room to breathe as you both lose shotguns at a vastly rapid rate and gain shotguns at a vastly lower rate.
>>570463634I got one from a deluxe locked room, which I then immediately lost because I mistook it for a Misriah and tried shooting it like one. Is Circuit Breaker good? Every time I used it it didn't feel good. Horrible for PvE.
>>570432459i tried it and died. i only got my hands on one once. in videos i've seen it spammed the grenades and i couldn't make it do that, do you use the beam rifle mode instead?
>>570463882it's absolute dog shit. but if you happen to full charge the gold circuit breaker and also be in range to punch them and you don't miss you might get one down. it's worthless in my opinion but i know some players like it
>>570463203I'm so tired after busting nuts to Thief, but here I go again
free to player here, i like your game, you won me over
>>570467765We can literally see your name in the webm schizo
>>570467765I was won over as well. Not sure how much that is the gameplay or just the 'investment' caused by filling a vault with goodies and unlocking skins and such. I'm enjoying myself though.>>570467865That's the case for any webms or screenshots isn't it?You can crop or edit a screenshot easily enough but for video it's probably too much effort. Juice isn't worth the squeeze.
>>570440840Have you played Atomfall?
>>570468686Nice, I think you're the Xbox enjoyer, who I parroted the "won me over" part from.>>570469157>Atomfall?No, you told me about it forever ago, when we discussed games like Atomic Heart and Ruiner, and I said Atomfall looks cool, but I'm not gonna play
>>570469458>Atomic Heart and RuinerAH is garbage. Ruiner is meh.
>>570469930I like Atomic Heart.
>>570470067Predictable.
>>570469930I'd play Atomfall if it was PvPvE like Marathon. When I say singleplayer games, I mean normalfag action games. You know the ones, claws coming out of the knuckles and shit
>>570470369>When I say singleplayer games, I mean normalfag action gamesHave some self-respect...
Sex with Vandal>>570469458Oh no, I'm on PC, you might be thinking of another anon.
>>570470691Self respect would prevent me from playing Deadathon every day
>Shutters lock the doors to enter the room too100 hours in just discovering this. Is it just certain rooms or do all shutter buttons lock the doors into that room as well? (Assuming they have doors)
Speaking of monochromatic Vandal >put silk into the S2 pass to stop capping it during the free week>get the game, get the deluxe pack>decide I really want the S1 vandal>"how do you get silk anyway">based on runner levelFuck. I shouldn't have been putting it in the S2 pass all this time
>>570471031Leveling is piss easy this season. You basically get 10 silk for every decent run.
>>570471031Just play some sponsored Perimeter in trios.
>>570470840Yea, mistook you for someone else. I like Vandal too.
>>570471005Just realised this was a key room that you could break the shutters from the outside. I guess the key rooms just dont spawn loot if you dont unlock the doors the normal way?
>>570463052he posted his arms in this thread he is a pathetic attention-whore who thinks he is the joker. why would you like him?
>>570471734>I guess the key rooms just dont spawn loot if you dont unlock the doors the normal way?Oh they do spawn it. It is just inaccessible.
>>570472336wait is that why I sometimes find a room full of orange/green bags that I can't interact with
why the fuck are there purple bots in the hauler
>>570472967I believe so, yes.
>>570473479For you to kill them and loot their bags, they usually have nice weapon mods or blue backpacks
>>570473479to rape you
>>570474234That's literally my job
>>570472967Yes.
>>570473479Someone already cleared the previous bots, and reinforcements have arrived. This may have happened a few times if you see more than 1 purple bot. Also, someone (assassin) might have popped secure box and spawned a purple and retinue.
Just bought the game, even though it's dead I really enjoyed my free week. Hopefully I'll get my money's worth if I get to play 2 more months.
>>570478286You'll get to play for longer than 2 months. It's not dead, it's a player on player violence, lose your stuff shooter, these don't have a high player count.
>deluxe key templates keep giving me marsh keys and outpost keysMan even the game fucking hates Perimeter.
>>570478286Best I can do is 2 weeks. Sorry.
>play more cryo>hang runners>goop a gold and purple shield>bots hit me with grenades>go invis>warden type bot keeps shooting>diessshieeett
Well, it happened, I finally ran out of time and didn't get to the last exfil. I was on sponsored perimeter and might have made it but there was a coordinate cache 'along the way' that turned out to be further away than I thought.I'm an idiot.
>>570479091>but there was a coordinate cache 'along the way' that turned out to be further away than I thought.Deep inside the data wall?
How the fuck do I use the overrun? It is my favorite gun because it operates like a standard assault rifle but I am just so ass with it. I almost don't trust it. I can get the jump on people with it and still lose some fights because the magazine feels so short and the recoil seems intense.
>>570478958I'd help you do keys on Dire Marsh, if you want. I'm not a fan of Outpost.
I wish there was a way to make heat maps of the travel routes people take on certain maps between POIs because I so rarely run into people between them on Perimeter and Marsh.
>>570479467>How the fuck do I use the overrun?First of all, put on a magazine attachment, you can easily get some in Safe-space Perimeter mode.Second of all, you should aim for the thighs or wiener, the recoil will climb up to the belly, chest and head. Basically, aim at the lower body, let the recoil kick up to the upper body.
>>570479467Overrun feels kind of ass without a drum mag IMO.
>>570479467>recoil seems intensepull down left and you'll quickly start beaming
Did they ever buff the outpost firestorm to actually hurt you more or can purple shields still just ignore it with enough shield charges?
>>570481376It's the same, I think.
So what do I do now in the midgame?Quests have gotten harder, but my crucible is like 40% done. I can either super slowly get like 5% of a crucible level per extract, or blow my entire inventory dying multiple times to do these quests that want me to go into crazy hard restricted areas with RNG keys. Am I just supposed to constantly all-in on shit, have an empty armory then do rook runs to recover?
>>570482000honestly I think weather events like that should be more oppressive + it should affect bots as well
any pc gamepad users wanna share their controller settings or have any general tips for controller use? never played an fps with a controller
>>570479467Its good but you need that recoil compensation grip (atleast blue) and a drum mag. They really dropped the ball on it by making it have 25 round mag by dafault and barely any increase even WITH a drum mag. Compare that to shit like Bully or Copperhead or a fucking BR.
>>570484824>drum mag on the bully gives it 20+ rounds>drum mag on the overrun gives it 13
>>570482000>walks over the roof instead of going through flight control >ignores the keycard exfil on top of flight control>needs to open up the map to spot a giant beam of light>waits final exfil in airfield instead of getting closer in flight control>could jump up to the boxes instead chooses to just randomly throw itself onto a truck bed to the sideI wish you had missed the exfil because you needed to learn many lessos here
>>570487209>>ignores the keycard exfil on top of flight controlI called it. I just don't remember the fast way up to the roof of Flight Control from the outside.
>>570482337If you're good enough, you get your team and raid cryo., but since you suck and your're way fucking behind the curve that might just be a waste. Mostly the game wants you to be bait for better players. I'd say get a bit more cruicible then try the restricted areas again.And get a team you godddam shitter.
>>570487419There are multiple ways up from the front-side facing Orientation.
>>570487475>I'd say get a bit more cruicibleWhat is this supposed to mean?
>>570474234>>570474589Is there anything in this game that is NOT there to rape you?
>>570431265The fact that you don't know tells me you should wait a week. Just remember, next week some of those gold premades will be there with biotoxic disinjectors.>>570431857This man wants a chance at your bussy.
>>570486431Yeah, its retarded. Then again, Overrun with a decent mag and recoil compensation is very qood and would be very satisfying, if quite ammo hungry.This reminds me... Howcome BRRT doesnt get a folding stock slot?>battle pistol gets one instead of optics>BRRT doesnt even though it has a perfect slot for that>would be even good for Magnum
>>570488172Sorry, the game can handle only 4 mods per weapon.
>>570488357BRRT and Magnum are 3 slot weapons since they can't take magazines.
I like Night Marsh's cert system because it works like a currency. You earn money by killing bots and spent it on map activities. But I do wish there were more changes to the map outside of Complex. Imagine,>Reinforced security in AI uplink because there are more things the UESC are doing in there. Maybe there'd be a way to fight bots to earn the Observatory key instead of it being random>Roadworks fixing the old road for vehicle access to Complex going around the anomaly>Something in Quarantine to offset all the big activities being on the east end of the mapetc.
>>570488357BRRT and Magnum have 3 slots due to fixed mag capacities. Stock options for both would be nice, and would make them quite viable (recoil compensation, stability, etc). And D54 Battle Pistol would get optics instead of that retarded bugged stock.
>>570490162>Bots investigating the pathogenic effects of the anomaly with cell cultures and such in Quarantine>Seguchi contract to steal the UESC's research and/or inject yourself with it for science
>>570487589Just stay in the cradle then. LOL.
>>570441737>Where are the pride month faggot rainbow skins? I'm not gay, I want to use them to piss someone off after I gank himThis is the SUREST possible sign that they're in panic mode.
>>570490165>would make them quite viablethe magnum is literally S tier right now
>bUt NoOnE wAnTs To PlAy PvE gAmEs¡¡¡
>>570490162>>570490519That's one thing Marathon is missing, ambient, passive events we can interact, interrupt, or do ourselves.
>>570492445>>570479256
>>570492445>people only play when the game is going into maintenance modeI truly wonder why D2 was ditched
>>570492445>tourist nation
>>570492445>bharat nation
>>570492627>>570494081seethe wokies
>>570494186The irony of being a d2fag, the faggiest wokiest game of them all according to your own definitions.
>>570490162>Something in Quarantine to offset all the big activities being on the east end of the mapBig one for me, Quarantine is kind of just an area I avoid like the fuckin plague in Night Marsh because it's dark as shit and infested with Ghosts more than other places, even in the sponsor mode I'd just kill the guaranteed spawn at West Gate to hit Quarantine's tower and leave the inside alone other than Thief scanning through the wall for the 5 cert box.
>>570490162Each map section needs some kind of gimmick that needs puzzling to figure out. Like in quake, you press the button and a pillar from the ceiling smashes down. Interactable environmental hazards for spice and variety.
>got insta downed at 30m from the kkv
>>570498790Bullshit, that weapon is straight up garbage
>>570491732>S-tierWhile Hardline and Repeater eat dirt, instead of being Magnum for >40metres.
>>570501018It is but I'm pretty sure they were using aimbot
>>570501018>1140 relative RPM on D54 vs. 1200 RPM mag dump of KVV.>The other one deals 8 dmg with 1.45 multiplier and the other deals 16 damage with 1.5 multiplier. The KVV honestly needs to be bumped to 11 and 1.5 and D54 needs to be brought to 14 and 1.45, currently the D54 might as well be a pocket m77 shooting at a ridiculous DPS.
>find two WSTRs in a coordinate cacheNice.
>>570504494your worms will be pleased
>>570506248There is no way in hell I am worming shotguns, even if the WSTR isn't as strong as it was in early S1.
>>570506597WSTR's are just "not as strong", they are literal shit and will get you killed.
>>570506248they will buff the wstr next season, and its not like it doesnt have its own niche utility in cryo for corner peaking
All they need to do is remove that retarded nerf of it turning into an air buff on blue shields and up and maybe give it more spread. If I shove a shotgun up your ass it should kill you, sorry.
>music is actually good but if you have it on you can't actually hear anything (literally the most important thing to be able to do in an ES)
>>570507219nah decrease the spread, increase the range and damage, make it a double barrel mid-range slug
>>570453097shoulda held the knife
What actually causes Search and Destroy to fire its missiles? Do I have to be aiming down sights and shooting? I feel like I dont have control over this ult
WSTR was never the problem, it was bubbles and self-res making long-range engagements unfeasible. Shotguns were perfectly balanced outside of bubble abuse.
>>570511358sustained damage on the target.
>>570511489Very true, very true. Everything affects everything else and the meta was to make bubble daisy chains so the response was shotgun rushing and nade spam.
Really hoping the next map is some kind of township/population center. Other than Outpost (and Cryo) most of the maps have been on the fringes of the colony it seems.
>>570511774you really think bungie can make a pvp map out of places where people live? i think it will take a long time or not happen. their workplace designs are crack cocaine influenced enough
>>570511774lol it's gonna be night time perimeter
>>570511489>>570511647bubbles???
>>570511963If they can make New Mombasa they can make that for Marathon.
>>570512130the bungle of yore is gone isn't it? surely most of the employees aren't the same
>>570512076Bubble Shields like in Halo.
i know most of you wont care, i know most of you will view me as a troll, but some of these discussions are just fucking re-hashes drom shit the community was talking about in year 1 and 2 of d2. it truly baffles me, down to the fucking bubble spam and shotgun discussions.....they didnt fucking learn anything.with that therapy statement out of the way, whats the over/under on new guns next season?
>>570511774>implying there will be a next map
>>570512301God will Marathon lasts long enough to have its own Taken King expansion.
>>570512638well, sony let them cook for taken king, there isnt anything saying they wouldnt do it here.....
>fought a team at flight control and took their drone wing key>scrambled up the red keys and got a command wing key from pinnacle>killed some rooks and exfilledman, that was a great run.
>>570512983Inshallah, I will cope.
>>570512638not happening in the current state of the industry
>>570512210Halo recorded actual guns for their sounds. Current bungie fires all their gun owners for being chuds.>>570512301And we're getting the server problems on patch now back from destiny days as well.
>>570512638They don't have the leadership for that or the vision. They don't even know what the fuck they're doing wrong. They don't even understand what the fuck rooks are like, or play their own game.>>570513548There are teams that could do it. This one can't.
>>570514796No team can do what bungie did with TTK because the talent left long agoplus everything cost a lot of money and takes too much time to get out
Qrd on Taken King? Sounds like it was kino.
was TTK the one where 5 of us hid in a room while we made some teenager with a squeaky voice unplug his router and when he got back we all unloaded or gallahorns into the boss because the glitch made us all invincible.
>>570515643You had to be there>>570515895That was Crotagood times
>>570516015cinema
>>570516015Marathon could never
>>570516015If you try to frame anything using negative space in games now they send death squads to kill you.
Have you seen any darksight caches? I found one in the western side of Algae basement.
>open Vault 3>fuckers try to invade behind us>smoke grenade + thief visor>peg 3 shots with my gold Ares, hit markers on 2, crit hit marker on one>throw several grenades, land at least a heat and a chem grenade with persistent hit markers>also land several M77 shots>some dude slides in with a battle pistol and shoots a single burst and I go down while trying to revive my teammate>post-game damage report>212 runner damageI feel like maybe people quit this game because it's fucking broken and you can't trust what it tells you, even just the chem grenade and heat grenade would total that amount of damage
>>570519751They nerfed heat grenade damage by like 50% for no reason it's actually kind of retarded.
>>570515643>TTK steup the big-bad and their main army>everything was done in a way such that any player could go back and experience the full campaign/lore/raid/atmosphere>properly communicated the eventuality of the series with the design of the entrance to the campaign oryx encounter being a silhouette of the witness, even years later>the best content>the best raid>the second best campaign, TTK had BEST IN CLASS campaign structure thoughyou had to be there anon. its hard to put into words.
>>570487641>>570492445Please remove Rook from sponsored survival
>>570524126nta but rook sponsored kits is my sole way of farming resources that arent weapons. fuck you
>>570524494Rook is killing the game for casuals, he's raping us and it hurts
>>570427478I got the book. Been busy today so haven't had a chance to read much of it yet.
>>570525359now THIS is shitposting
>>570511997day time outpost
>>570527052tea time cryo
crew fills are so hit and miss, i swear its always the guy with no mic or coms that just throws it all away
>>570471938its the same faggot but he phonefags so he can "own" the people correctly calling out his samefagging>hurr it not me see the (you)'s everyone knows who this is, nobody likes him so its really obvious also he overplays it and ends up talking like a fucking caricature when he sucks himself offive tried giving him advice before to make it more convincing but last time he ended up having a melty and spammed the arc general with multiple devices for 6 hours straight
>>570528263Wish I could get these kinds of retards
>>570529041You are getting them, you're just not better than them.
>>570525359my goat
>>570525359you don't have to make excuses for other people at the expense of yourself. like, when you press the play button you're choosing to play the game, you aren't agreeing to any kind of special behavior. you didn't sign a contract that said "I WILL CLUTCH." you didn't do anything wrong worth feeling guilty over by dying, you just made a mistake (or a series of mistakes) in a video game.the duo CHOSE to queue trio, they agreed to adding a random player with unknown skill to their group. they're in no position to blame you for getting lost and being inexperienced.if you feel bad for dying then treat that as a signal your body is sending you that you want to improve, not that you're.. whatever you thought you were.(thinking 101 won't go into this. next time, ask Claude and set its effort to Max when you feel anxious like this. be honest with it and ask it to rip your logic apart for any inconsistencies. tell it you feel guilty for "underperforming" (if there were such a thing while being inexperienced) and ask it if you should feel guilty in that situation. it'll help you think straighter.)
>>570525359get a copy of three days of happiness while you're at it too. it's a good read for hopeless anons.
>>570529794>"I'm actually just better bro trust">guy whiffed half of his initial shots with a scar, a gun that literally auto aims for you>even still you almost died to him because you walked towards him like an NPC>only survived because you had a green shield and the guy you were shooting at had a white shield>also only survived initially because instead of shooting you with that scar he decided to open fire with what looks like a tac pistol at firstonce again only proving you're only capable of bragging and boasting about killing people that are either at a clear disadvantage or are retarded. Curious!
new fav just droppedtweaker paced cryo team mateswho cryptically communicate, bee line directly into enemy team, then get mad when they die
>another night of trying to run from Bio to Quarantine and getting shot in the back every time
absolute horseshit
Has there been any tests to see how much extra damage the Last Resort chip adds? For those unfamiliar it's the one that gives you extra non-precision damage if you're overheated. Arachne have an upgrade that lets you buy purple versions of the chip, and I'm tempted to see if you could do some one-shot bullshit with a railgun or sniper potentially on purple shield enemies
for anyone who cares. the Mida limited contract that wants you to go into complex and retrieve the AI quest item, you do NOT need the key to start the boss. it is in the boss room so you will still need 7 certs but once you activate it, fight off some bots, you can leave. our first run we did the quest and then the boss but couldn't deliver the item to the incinerator cause rats were waiting for us at the bottom of the vents. then the next time we did it, left, found the key, went back and did the boss. rats were still waiting but we went out the other elevator.
>>570492596because it had worse player count than Marathon, this 100k+ final send off is just that, a final send off. The party ended a long fucking time ago for D2.
>>570528263damn, his shins must hurt after that.
>>570501018>>570504061KVV is waaay too meta for my taste. It's good when people rush you, that's it.
>>570517604only seen the one outside AI uplink. in that little out crop building.
>>570543719>because it had worse player count than Marathonnot like marathon is blowing destinys pre farewell party numbers out the watermarathon is also reaching critical levels a few months after release
>>570544068>not like marathon is blowing destinys pre farewell party numbers out the water>marathon is also reaching critical levels a few months after releaseDestiny has reached it's conclusion, it's been played out. The day to day numbers were worse than Marathon, thats why it got dropped.I know 100k+ people showed up to have a Nostalgia trip, but they wont be around past that. There is a chance that Marathon succeeds. It might be like a .0001% chance, but it's more than what Destiny had.
>>570516015Compiler has more presence
>>570544273>The day to day numbers were worse than Marathonmaybe. destiny console numbers are bigger. it was hovering around 7-10k on steam. marathon is not doing 40k, weekend peak, just shy of 15k on steam. yes destiny was over, but marathon is already at deaths door.
>>570544387
>Diremarsh is usually chill for me>grab a free kit>join a random team >I'm assigned a purple and a green shield team >we spawned AI uplink>purple has key to complex>we rush the keyroom>I hear a team in complex shooting bots>purple says he doesn't care>we start looting>I hear them approaching>they start nade spamming>broke shields, but no health dmg>we patch up>sentinel bro turns the room into a bunker with his bullshit>an assassin rolls into the room and gets murdered>they are afraid to push now>I start watching from a bullet proof window>a second team arrives and starts peeling our attackers off of us unknowingly>then a third team arrives and joins the fight>It's becoming clear that we have been forgotten entirely in the fog of war>our bags are full of loot>we decide to just split>we leave the loot room without issue>the gunfire of the three teams fades in the distance as we slink away>we exfil without incident>I think about how multiple teams died for nothingMan, I love Diremarsh.
>>570544756>destiny is fucking dead>the other game still aliveman it's a total business mystery why they decided to let the dead game stay dead and try to resuscitate the dying game.
Numbers are a meme. Marathon will still be alive and receiving updates half a decade from now. Don't feed the trolls.
>>570545649>>the other game still alivethe game that is alive was struggling to overcome a dead destiny. destiny probably still had higher numbers even in its death throes. if marathon is alive then, lol.
>>570545782thats some legit payed copium right there holy fuck.
go back to /dg/
i still dont understand why they disabled the free green kits when they knew they were gonna inflate the loot
>>570546323>/dg/ nah bro, this studio wont be around much longer
>>570544946Oryx>generic winged demon/satan with swords>arena is super generic with some pillars>80% of the fight he is shrouded in shitty fog and you can barely see him>you fight adds for most of the fightCompiler>kickass arena with crucified bots>reaching the arena is itself even better>all takes place in an actual multiplayer pvpve match while the fight is going on, in a secret area within the mapNigga you are fucking retarded, go back to the destishit general
>>570548954I don't play Destiny, but there is something to be said about a setpiece intro like that. Compiler is fuckin dope, but a lot of the ambiance just gets lost in the stress of PVPVE and the timer - you had to do a litany of tasks in a short window and probably kill a few other teams on your way up, and then you are laser focused on doing the boss right, hunting weird little terminals with icons on them, and then when you kill it, you usually have like 90 seconds to run past the extremely interesting environment art post-Compiler (the heart) and loot shit and leave.You don't really have the time to take it in, and if it had a cool intro like Oryx, it would just piss you off because you're on the clock.Not to mention the accessibility - most people aren't gonna be able to see that cool room and that cool boss. Cryo is a rape pit, it's even worse this season.
>>570549549I get it you never ascended from the lab to the airlock
>>570549647Haven't done it the normal way, still missing 04 and 06 because both times I've tried 06 we got multi-teamed. One of them it was a 9man. And for some reason I have straight up only seen a single vault 4 key ever and bungled that run.Near the end of last season we did join a gaggle of dipshits on prox chat and 12 manned the thing, which since everyone was cooperating actually did give me the time to look around at the cool as fuck room/heart room while people were scramblin around looking for loot.
>>570549959yeah maybe one day you will actually get to break into the lab, input the dna code sequence, open the vault, ascend in a trio to the airlock, bait the aggro of the compiler properly set up the damage phase, beat it and actually know what it feels like
>>570550634probably not, lil bud
https://files.catbox.moe/o5dxs9.mp4
>>570550827Man, the new enemies suck.
Let's be honest, Night Marsh is not nearly scary enough. Needs more dark patches, non-UESC enemies with actual gameplay. The reason why Minecraft cave diving is the scariest horror game is because it's all gameplay. Night Marsh's scares are either just sound traps or explosive enemies you can barely do anything about. You need some actual lurking dangers, ghosts, monsters/giant spiders rising from the swamp, etc. with hard to interpret cues, or sound traps that resemble a player, because that's the scariest shit. Maybe power outages that make locations completely pitch dark with more hallucinations and makes doors into something you have to manually open.
>>570551548Bungle do not have the competency to develop something like that. Static spawns are all they can manage, actual AI that roams and procedurally does its own thing is incomprehensible black magic as far as these hacks are concerned
>>570551548The fact that the husks don't wander the map and just have static spawns was really disappointing.
>>570551548pretty good
When exactly does the rocket drone spawn in survival?
>>570554456It's around the somewhere between the 5-10 minute mark. It's kind of hard to know for sure though, i've seen it come in at 13 min and other times at like 3 mins left.
wtf did they remove the option to honk the hauler?
Maintenance and Quarantine on Night Marsh are fucking awful to be in, I would not willingly go into those POIs unless absolutely forced to.
Just found my first cache solo in perimeter, got a nice machinegun and sniper rifle worth 3k and LMG worth like 700. Shit's pretty cash!
>>570556498It's good to keep in mind that if you have 1 of 2 coordinate datapads on you, you can always see the exact location of the other one, even if it's in someone else's inventory.
>>570551548>not nearly scary enoughHow about this?
>>570557573I'm having a heart attack
tonikotisutalina
>>570551548>Let's be honest, Night Marsh is not nearly scary enoughTeen rated dogshit isn't scary? No way.Every game this fall has blood and gore, thank Christ.>MW4>Wolverine>GTA
>>570537313You'll feel disadvantaged and retarded when playing against me, I'm just better
>>570542089>Has there been any tests to see how much extra damage the Last Resort chip adds?Our game is not popular enough for someone to test it, baby girl
>>570559497>show not-sentinel getting his helmet shattered in the first teaser>show destroyer getting magdumped and completely broken by bots>show destroyer getting his arm atomized by the compiler beam>none of this ever happens ingame
So the entire solo game is still about crouchwalking through the map and killing people while they are deaf by the looting sounds?
>You should get segregated like a negro, for me to have funHow about I dodge the matchmaking, get into your game, and fuck you up the buttMmmmMmmMM
>>570541250Look at you, lil killer>>570564409>solo game is still about crouchwalkingYou think squads don't crouch walk? Buddy...
I just exfil'd from Cryo for the first time. Only tried it like 3 or 4 itmes in S1 and this is the 2nd attempt in S2. That was really fun I have to admit. My heart was on edge the entire time.
>>570542089The Stryder gun has the ability to tell you exactly how much hp/shields someone has when aiming at them. You can test it on a bot to find out.
I play Marathon in Central Asia, my queue times are 15min+. It's still bearable more of less. I am level 9, I've had 4 runs this season. My first run my team of new guys was wiped out by purple shields, the next I didn't find anyone and the last 2 we were wiped again. I loved this game to death in S1, but right now I quit and I unfortunately know this probably won't get better.I don't think this is sustainable at all. Waiting 20 minutes to get nuked by the only people in my region, who are obviously kitted out
>>570566250>I just exfil'd from Cryo for the first time.Hats off, 80% of the playerbase never did that
I need to hit that OCE bussy before she quits playing Marathon
>>570564559I've yet to hear SBMM beggars elaborate as to what will happen when people will start getting punished with harder lobbies for the capital crime of improving at the game. They cry about current matchmaking only benefitting the top 10% of the playerbase then immediately beg for different matchmaking that will only benefit the bottom 10% of the playerbase and make the rest sweat more for the same loot, same quest rewards, same exfil rate. Same reason I can't respect PvE beggars. It is not that they don't like shooting at other people, their real objection is that other people shoot back and kill them. They just want an easy mode.
>>570551548i think the glitched out screens in the maintenance buildings got me pretty good.
>>570490162Keys for the other areas should be more common but a mini boss should be behind every locked door
>>570571614>I've yet to hear SBMM beggars elaborate as to what will happen when people will start getting punished with harder lobbies for the capital crime of improving at the game.Most people don't get noticeably better at PvP, a portion will get better and join the "top players" in discussion only. They will discuss SBMM and say it's bad, but they're still benefitting from SBMM. Because without SBMM, those who improved a little bit, would still get stomped by actual nolifers. Basically many people think they're good enough to play without SBMM, but they are not, they would have a very bad time without it.
How do you even do 4 damage, hit half of a bullet?
>parasitism 4/5oh my fucking GOD
>>570572912The AI jumpscare? Yeah that's got me too
>>570571614No one gives a shit about the top 1% of players
>>570574449Shrapnel scrape from a grenade or a single bullet past damage fall-off. Likely KVV, because that tends to experience a sharp drop in damage quite quickly.
>>570564409no. it's also about sniping people from a distance as they run to an objective on the other side of the map.
>>570574489okay done it I love you Nona whatever you say
>>570571614>It is not that they don't like shooting at other people, their real objection is that other people shoot back and kill them. They just want an easy mode.It only sucks and feels bad because it's an extraction shooter. It's not as simple as respawn after 10-30 second timer like other games. Gotta go back to the lobby, select a loadout, then sit through the matchmaking screen as it struggles to find a match with the dwindling player count, then get killed again, lose all your gear to someone who caught you unaware, and potentially make zero progress on your contract and waste your time.Even something like Dark Souls, tauted for being "punishing," is mild in comparison. You die, respawn after a quick loading screen, and go fetch your souls while retaining your loot.There's too much at stake with Marathon runs for it to have BR-lite PvP prevalence and expect it to feel good; I can see why lots of people want a PvE mode. Even fucking Tarkov, which is way more hardcore than Marathon, has a PvE mode.
>>570546097>over a million copies sold just a few months ago>the sister game has 14k player peak just a few months ago Total mystery why they chose the new game over the decade old dead game.
god GOD THIS FUCKING STUPID GAMEI HA EIT
ALL pistols need their range reduced to sub 20m. If you are going to have a sidearm class of weapons in a game you NEED to balance them by keeping their range short. right now there seems to be no reason to use any gun other than the battle pistol for close to mid range, meanwhile the KKV is only good for using up light ammo.
I keep misreading KKV as Kinetic Kill Vehicle. That would be a fun weapon to have access to.
>>570579412>fuck it we didnt even WANT this planet.
>>570578419>the KKV is only good for using up light ammo.No, it's a very good gun. As good as the bully.
>>570580326>No, it's a very good gunit took your entire mag to down a blue-shield guy and most of your hits were headshots. the battle pistol can do that in like 6 bullets.
>>570580997It won't do that after any coming patches, it's hella overtuned
Whats the difference queuing solo vs queuing trios with crew fill off
>>570581929no-fill solo dropping on trios basically means you want to be killed but feel superior in a 'wowww took 3 of you to kill me' way. theres literally no reason to do it unless you are a demigod or want to have fun sneaking around.
>>570581929In the former you'll face other solos, in the latter you'll face trios
>>570576554>the sister game has 14k player peak just a few months agokek this totally alive game has a 14k peak yesterday, not a few months ago, yesterday.>but it nearly sold 2 million copiesagainst a budget of god knows how big with 400 devs working on it for over 5 years, getting beat by tarkov and hunt, old ass games. sony backed the wrong horse.
>>570580326KKK has the same problem the overrun has where you need most of a mag of headshots to down one enemy in a game where you often aren't 1v1ing.
>>570580997>it took your entire mag to down a blue-shield guyYou can extend the mag, the difference is barely noticeable. Both the KKK and the pistol are like a green bully, when it comes to actual gameplay.>but the number spreadsheet, the statisticsThe meta stats don't change the fact, that purple pistols have been losing to a green Bully and KKV. These pistols are from players
>>570582194>getting beat by old ass gamesanon... how should I tell you this?
>>570582194Businesses don't suddenly cut support for a product. The decision was probably being discussed, analyzed, and budgeted for months or even years beforehand.Destiny is a ship that's already sunk. Marathon is a sinking ship, but there is a chance it can float.
>>570583960Marathon is being beaten by every game in its genre, old or otherwise
>>570585114Because the games in PvPvE loot genre look grounded, realistic. While Marathon looks like play-dough, cartoony artsyslop. It's visuals attract soft people, while it's combat is for giga nerds, who have been getting 1 in a 100 people battle royale wins in other games.
Why is the Cryo kit still broken
>marathon haters once again pretending to think more players = better game.we're on 4chan. we ALL know you don't actually believe this, you're a contrarian like the rest of us. now alt tab back to helldivers.
>>570585647Stop being poor and make your kit
>>570585712STRAWMANNING WILL MAKE ME GOD
>>570585712who are you replying to
>>570585995The strawmen in his head
>>570585712>>marathon hatersWould not exist, in a scenario where Marathon 2026 is released by a nameless Survival Shooter Company Studio.The only reason anyone is looking at it's numbers, is Bungie's logo.Bungie made people butthurt, their holes are steaming from the drilling they got
>>570585114It's being beaten by 5 games in its genre
I've killed a lot of these guys, using Rook
>>570586997>i just want a boring mode where im the only team and i get to shoot the braindead robots and make my bars go upjfc
>>570587261yep, and bungie is going to listen to me because they want to survive
>>570587261Who do you think played Destiny?
>>570587261Damn, it's almost like that's what the fanbase of Bungie games are used to. Maybe they should've catered to their core audience instead of doing retarded trend chasing.
>>570586997>Call it sponsored survival>The future is practice mode for mapskek
>>570585712I like both games
>sitting like a maiden, waiting to get breeded
Is ranked solo only or squads? I mostly played solo in S1, but I like squads now cause I'm giga strong and 1V1s are boring
Sneedemfeedem and Spottemgottem finna be playin Marathon Season 2 ranked and shit yo
>>570590798where's pooh shiesty?
>>570587261I go there to farm materials and see people die to bots all the time. Grenadiers specifically.
Goodbye cryo, helloooooo sub 10k week
>>570591401wouldn't be surprised tbhdesu
>>570590470Squads, but you can go in alone.
>>570591401When chuds have been saying this ever since April, it kinda loses meaning
>>570590951He's protesting by logging in on D2>>570592086Nice, I'mma make a green kit and go there to steal people's guns
>>570590951didn't link up...
>>570592679to be fair, it has a real shot of going below 10k this season. its already starting at 10k likely this monday. it will need to survive 3 months of that. not good chances.
>>570589081I know you're the resident rape enthusiast, but is this actually fun? I'd rather fight people that actually put up some sort of resistance.
>Another kill feed with D54There's no way nobody tested this before it went in. What the fuck?
>>570574929Bungie would literally skin you in irl life if it meant receiving a single word of praise for marathon from a top 1% sweaty streamerfag
>>570596293I'm sure some of the designers at the studio just love huffing their farts. The Destiny 2 Black Armory puzzles were the most egregious by far. It's cool you'll do puzzles and things for your audience to figure out, but at the same time the steps, references and everything concerning the content they put out was made solely for an audience that had the time to crack at it for like 7 hours a day
How do people even play ranked? This is hands down one of the shittiest PvP experiences in any game I've ever played, and I'm not new to actual comp games with movement.
>>570599198wos bad about it?
>>570599198Ranked was full of cheaters in S1 and the idea of a ranked in an ES is almost antithetical game design.
>>570599198>How do people even play ranked?I don't, never played, not interested
>>570599410Everyone camps at whatever POI they can hole up in the best and then doesn't move for 30 minutes so you're at a disadvantage if you weren't the team to show up first, or to get the drop on whatever hapless faggots try to fight you for it. It's fucking AIDS.
>>570599198I tried ranked in s1 we were bronze 3 and every team was rocking thermals, purples, and golds.It was an absolute rat fiesta. I saw a video of a guy doing solo ranked into teams of 3. He got into atleast gold rank doing it. He’d basically slink around the map and find a few thousand dollars worth of shit before hitting g an exfil. Meanwhile real teams basically have to kill each other or do key rooms in order to progress.
>>570602998Yeah Bronze III in S1 was the equivalent of a low Plat game in any other shooter with how fucking sweaty and meta it was. I never bounced off of a ranked mode faster.
>>570593380this is not the way
I've been getting filtered a lot today
>>570608645Same, ended up just getting off for the day.
>>570609063i would pick ONI-chan over that maggit whore every day
>see cert tower get activated in front of us>activate pulse>literally no hits at all >they somehow re-positioned 50 meters in the two seconds it took me to primeHonestly sometimes it feels like the pulse is bugged
Where the FUCK are the anomalous reverbs? god damn I can't find any
>>570611795I genuinely don't even think they spawn on regular night marsh.
>>570611554The cert towers are sometimes bugged. In that they sometimes activate for players when they get to a certain distance, instead of when they're actually activated. Don't know why it's a thing, but it' still all sorts of fucked.
>>570611836they do. i just did the quest to kill 5 of them yesterday
>>570539702>>trying to run from Bio to Quarantine and getting shot in the back every timeHave you tried actually clearing POIs instead of blindly sprinting through or past them to reach your objective?I'm going to go on a bit of a rant here, because I see sooo many new players making this mistake in S2 and it's costing me a lot of kits.When you first spawn, if most your team is wearing grey kits, you need to secure and loot your spawn POI. If most the team has gear then you need to rush to the nearest enemy spawn and clear it. I don't know if you're new or haven't learned yet, but the maps are so small in this game that you cant just ignore other teams. There are other teams on the map, there are always other teams on the map, this is the reality of your situation unless your playing sponsored survivor. You have to act accordingly.If you see another team or If you hear another team shooting something or god forbid you're close enough to hear them open doors, then you have to kill them. You have to nut up, push them, and kill them. Pacifism doesn't work here, drop the retarded prisoners dilemma strategy, if you don't you will die to them, they will not spare you when they discover your position.
>>570612096Wow that's actually kind of fucking lame. Gay perhaps.
I do wish we had some sort of arena or team deathmatch mode. hard for me to get better at PvP with 9/10 encounters are just rat vs rat or getting jumped before you know someone was there
>>570613794It basically works like this:>Someone activates cert in the bumfuck of nowhere.>You approach a cert to a certain distance.>Game replays the cert activation animation for the player/team in question.It's jumpscared me more than enough times and there's never anybody there. Hopefully they fix it, because i would appreciate it being something you can reliable spot and use as a gauge whether someone is around. Now it's a coin toss.
>don't bring a key in >win handily>bring a key in>get fucking rapedCurious.
>>570613791>teamI play solos. >h-have you tried clearing the POIYes, and it makes no difference. In fact, it makes it worse, since it results in noise generation 9/10 times and just attracts attention anyway>I dont know if you're new or haven't learned yetspare me your patronizing lecture, Im not new, I know to observe and check your corners before moving through a space, but ultimately it doesn't matter since as soon as you turn your back to advance it doesn't stop someone from happening across you and taking you out from a distance anyway. the reality is that if you spawn in the ass-end of maintenance, need to go to Bio, and then hit up Quarantine and then exfil, you are going to come across somebody no matter how careful and deliberately you play. it comes down to whether or not you get unlucky enough that someone sees you before you see them, because that's the kind of behavior that this kind of game encourages.
i was playing triage and have two left over drones and threw them up in the sky at the exfil and started skeet shooting them. didnt realize the timer ticked down and I was out of the zone and my teamates started laughing at me because I didnt extract lol
>>570615031It's honestly just nerves in pretty much every case. There are some lobbies that can be unwinnable though, so you sometimes spill spaghetti. In most cases it's just usual confirmation bias. I made a small excel of checking out just how many keys i made/used/lost and i made more than i lost in pretty much the entirety of S1 and i always felt like i was throwing my keys like crazy.
>>570615382>I play solos.why? just crew fill. even a group of retards is better than marathon solo, this game isnt optimized for solo play
>>570615634Because i enjoy the slower and more immersive feel of solos where I can engage with the world more, rather than having to tard wrangle two other faggots while trying to avoid getting wiped by another roaming squad
>>570615835fair enough, gotta be a frustrating experience though, the ttk is too low in this game
I feel like Perimiter needs a second Hauler style location, maybe something underground in the direct south like a crashed aerial vehicle in the hills or something.
>>570601494>Everyone camps at whatever POIJust like real mercenaries in the real world, touch grass you're filtered
>>570615634Not that anon but how do you get your random team mates to do your objective consistently
>>570430745what the fuck were they thinkingactually the UI still sucks fucking shit, it's just that it's part of muscle memory now. But if I could, I would kick their designers in the nuts
>>570616058I just want them to roll out the New Cascadia Agricultural Hub already. They featured it quite often in the cinematic trailers, reveal and the likely reason it never got out in the first batch of maps likely has to do with development having been spearheaded for the more compact maps and high risk end-game maps like Outpost and Cryo.
>Glorp: Aztec Ross is being pissy now but they keep him in the Marathon Creators Club because the moment interest in Destiny dips and his opinion turns again it will be worth more than all the people that stuck with Marathon.He's not wrong but how does Aztecman have so much power when hes a shit player who gets carries?
>>570616875Saving it for the rest of the PVE enemies the husks were just a rushjob tease for thats planned for season 3. Can't milk the same 3 bots forever.
>>570615382>someone sees you before you see them*Hears you before you can hear him.That's why you stop by certain places and make no sound for a while, you don't need to actually look at corners
>>570616932>a shit player who gets carriesLike Summit and Peanut, and every female streamer? Lonely friendless ppl watch atecross and pretend it's their friend
>>570616717just ask and ping the location, 9/10 times people will just go along
>>570617107It just seems like a novel concept too. Although Pinwheel has a sort of circular design around the central focus, having something with similar circular map layout in multiple layers and paths to it could honestly be pretty damn kino. Currently the other issue honestly has to deal with the game not really using many of it's indoor environments to a full extent and as it seems most of the elements regarding night/dark environment gameplay just made a debut. Just having a mixture of a map where you enter by day and there are large sightlines on the outside layers and then descending into darker areas just seems like such a gimme.
it's now getting to the point where the census among the blast-havers on reddit is this game shouldn't have been an extraction shooter, mainly because the low population is starting to affect oceania, asia, and even some parts of europe pretty bad supposedly
>>570618695I'm having nice and relaxing solo games in sponsoredbungo can fuck off
>>570618880brb reporting you to bungie so that you get into the sweat matchmaking
>S3>Night Mode Cryo, powers out and things broke their containment>New Runner Puppeteer reusing Destiny Strand animations/mechanics>New Map: Greenhouse. Colonist hybridisation experimentation lab that has been left abandoned and overgrown for a very long time>PVE mode: //HEIST: Infiltrate a secure UESC corvette in a Roguelite mode where looted bonuses stack for seasonal personal player growth to take on Orions right hand goons and steal key records about the Marathon>Revamped Contract system. One chosen active but also two of the dailies as constant passives you dont select but finishing one automatically adds another.>A single Rook skin that just makes his face glow green called "Friendly".
the vibrant colors and art make this game look like it isn't one of the most brutal, hardcore, and unforgiving games ever made.
>>570618880whats your route like? right now im just feeding all salvage to cradle unless i find a backpack then i try secured resources
>>570618695It should have been a roguelite with an extraction and arena deathmatch side modes.
Honestly getting really tired of having an advantageous position but if I try to make any kind of move it flips into being disadvantageous.
>>570620197Clearly fake because Bungo would never give us 2 maps in a single season
how do u beat the outland sniper rifle bros
>>570621282No Destiny season to work on now.
>>570608645>I've been getting filtered a lot today>>570609941>>570620794It's gonna get worse
>>570615382> it comes down to whether or not you get unlucky enough that someone sees you before you see themNot if you spawn in with the sole intention of just wiping the lobby and playing full aggression. Try it sometime, it works out better 90% of the time for me since I started doing it. Had 4 outpost wipes in a row leaving myself to get pinwheel for free.Perimeter and Outpost are easy enough to do this on as long as you know spawns and map timings/rotations. Dire Marsh is harder due to the size of it though.
>>570609063Mother Nona big boobies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n-Byo2skuoAs a Marathon fan, everything in this video is right. How do we fix this?
>>570623915>hey guys watch my vide-no, I don't think I will
>>570624049I just got it in my recommended and found it accurate description of Marathon's many problems.
>>570623915>How do we fix this?Not our problem, fuck devs, fuck artists, fuck Sony's money. How the game keeps running doesn't matter, we already had fun on it
>>570621304don't get hit lmao
>>570609063
>>570621304shoot at them to flinch them, so when they go to take their one shot they miss and have to spend a second fucking with the bolt action, which gives you enough time to either kill them or wound them enough that they have to back off and heal, which gives you time to either run or push
I wanna do a solo walk around on Sponsored Survival Perimeter, I guess as either Assassin to hide from UESC or Triage for easy healing economy on the free kit.What things should I go look for to see? Spooky points of interest? Environmental story telling etc?
>>570625619Watch out for massive, veiny Rook coming for your ass
>>5706256191: triage sucks he was made too late in development and was a rush job and is still being fixed2: get inside the center wall and check every nook and cranny.
>>570625619Go to Overflow, and go down to the water, out in the distance there's a box guarded by two fungi. Report back what's inside because I always wanted to know.
>>570615382>I play solosPlay the rat mode and you'll get ratted. Stop doing that.>I make noise clearing POIsAnon, you might be retarded. You don't need to physically check and clear every corner to clear a POI. You can info fag all the information you need with your eyes and ears.Do you see any doors that are open? Any windows that are broken? Any dead bots? Are reinforcements arriving? If you see any of these signs just observe the location for a minute.If you have no visual queue then you can creep up and enter the POI, pause and just listen. You will hear some one working through the POI if they are there. If all clear, then continue to the next POI.>spare me your patronizing lecture, Im not new.Just a shitter then.>you are going to come across somebody no matter how careful and deliberately you playProbably because you are absolute shit at terrain masking. Research actual real world military use of things like the military crest, combo this with maintaining a covered route. Cover to cover movement is another thing that most retards don't practice. They just get shot in the open and die.
>>570615382>the reality is that if you spawn in the ass-end of maintenance, need to go to Bio, and then hit up Quarantine and then exfil, you are going to come across somebody no matter how careful and deliberately you play.to complete quests like that i put on a freekit in solos and run laps around the map until it works and it takes liek three tries at most i think you're making yourself retarded with a defeatist attitude
>clear hauler>assassin walks in>we both stop>i double squat>he double squats>we pass each other and continue on our way.>Later we take down a rook ambush together and exfil>pic related
>>570627756Its actually hilarious that you think this is all stuff people don't know to doIn case you hadnt figured it out already, everything you do makes noise. every step, every time you open your map, every time you ADS, it makes noise that people hear. you CANNOT go through or past any POI without generating noise that people can pick up on, provided they are there too. yeah, you can look around and see signs that people have been there recently and dart cover to cover behind the shadows and the environment. but it doesnt mean that people won't see you do that if they happen to look your way at the right moment, or catch you leaving the POI after you thought it was clear. sometimes you're just fucked, and your basic cover tactics only go so far, which why it's hilarious that you're advice is little better or more helpful than a disingenuous "lol just be more careful dude"
>>570630458Not to defend a guy being a bit of a cunt but you would be shocked how bad some peoples situational awareness is both irl and in videogames. There are a lot of pvp games where people are so trained for movement that if you just stop moving they will run right past you unless you are standing in an open well lit area. It never hurts to point out the obvious in this regard.Like how guns make different sounds if they fire outdoors, in small rooms, large rooms, in the rain, in fog or over long distances or how a bag will hum if a team members still alive and the like. Knowing is half the battle lad.
>don't come to pinwheel tomorrowwho was the genius who decided to make columbine assassin skins?
>>570631112I mean they know the Rat audience and what the Rat audience wants.
>>570615382>>570630458Brother I think its just time to admit that you don't like extraction shooters. It's fine, really, a lot of people don't like them exactly for reasons like this
>>570629737>>he double squats
>>570631964>Four squats>Not the double squat of universal friendshipThats not very barweep granaweep niniban of him to be fair.
>>570632157His friends got the Sneedemfeedem treatment too, but can't fit it in a webm
>tfw comfy survival
>>570633220>Bros an unironic Glorper, not even a stankratYou are someones son...
>>570630458>Its actually hilarious that you think this is all stuff people don't know to doThey dont.>you CANNOT go through or past any POI without generating noise that people can pick up onThat's why we use our eyes first and our ears second. You will see danger well before you hear it.>but it doesnt mean that people won't see you do that if they happen to look your way at the right momentThere is a class that can just flat out go invisible for such occasions anon. The TTK is high enough in this game that you should be able to react fast enough with a slide or an ability to reach cover and return fire. >>570630837>Not to defend a guy being a bit of a cuntI am being a cunt, but I'm just tired of people playing like shit and then complaining like its purely RNG, loading into yet another raid to repeat the same nonsense. At some point you have to realize the problem is you, surely?
>down to end of season 1 numbers>after a f2p week>on a weekend
>>570634006> At some point you have to realize the problem is you, surely?We all know you know the answer to that question, you just dont like the answer anymore than the rest of us.
game sucks
do you look at guides or do you just play and do your quests and level up the faction you like because of visuals or ideals and all that? I want to get better but I also kinda just want to vibe and quest and read the story items.
>>570635334I just find myself wanting more and going out on the maps rootin' an lootin'. It isn't exactly the same vibe as playing death stranding but it scratches a similar "maybe i need an autism check" itch.
>>570615634>this game isnt optimized for solo playshut the fuck up
>>570626894There was a couple boxes on the first runNone on the second, no mushrooms either. Pretty decent but otherwise unremarkable loot. Without a mechanics kit not worth because you ahve to get poisoned by both shrooms to get the loot and it murders you without one.>>570626836Didnt have the key coz it was a on a free kit to look deeper inside, but definitely a cool area inside the wall. But there isnt much to say. Half is fine, half is completely overgrown with tic tumour nests. Some grafitit regarding Mida, some "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" motifs, and this I heard you can find a colonist somewhere on Perimete? Only one I've found was on Dire Marsh sucked up by the anomaly
>>570635334Try to stay away from guides. Especially in S2 so much xp, money, loot and faction rep gets thrown at you just for playing normally doing whatever you want it seems a bit silly to optimise the fun out of your experience with a guide
>>570636106You missed our mycelial friend glued to the south end wall?
>>570635334I just play. Looking at guides is lame. I just do contracts whenever possible and try to collect valuables since I care about the lore and codex entries. People have told me I can just look up all the codex entries, but that's extremely lame behaviour. I never looked up guides on how to do the vaults or compiler either and have 3 compiler kills under my belt as well as all the sub routines.I wouldn't consider myself a good player by any means. If I can do it, everyone else should be able to.
>>570636106If you go to the southern entrance of the dividing wall, i think between south relay and station, the bit open to the sun directly illuminates a colonist in a broken open hazmat suit reaching out in horror as fungus has burst out her mouth and fused her to the wall as foreshadowing to the husks and the idea shit coming from the plant cross breeding place is getting actively worse.
>>570637460I prefer to find stuff. Getting out some random item and getting an audio log is really cool. I got something from Narsh the other day that unlocked some S2 stuff about how the aliens crippled the Marathon so it is effectively a moon and not a ship anymore and the UESC covered this up to stop colonists freaking their shit because they were not trapped with the anomaly they were already freaking their shit about. Actually finding this stuff on a lost colony delivers what i think i wanted from Destiny in a way and its not the same to look it up.
>>570430193i thought this game looks nice, and after playing today, it is filled with campers. i don't understand why a game like this is so toxic.
>>570635334>do you look at guides or do you just play and do your quests and level up the faction you likeI only listen for people and only plan to kill people, in an unfair situation, that favors me. I'm here since midnight release and I raped thousands
For some reason I want to play Hunt Showdown. Marathon's gameplay is good, but no one can surprise me on this game, like what's the point of playing after VIP arachne a second time
>New Marathon map comes out>Please for the love of God make it PvE I don't want nolifers to shoot me
>>570636669>>570637540
>>570644754People that complain about this shit just dont like losing and cant handle it emotionally Its easier for them to blame matchmaking and say "There's just no life sweats in the game! There was nothing I could do!"
>>570637841go play the original games
>>570633313Built to get drilled by Rook
>>570637540Husks seems to be a separate phenomena from the supah bungus, or rather both stem from the Anomaly but are different end results. What is pretty clear is that the Anomaly will integrate pretty much anything it comes into contact with in order to kill everyone and everything non-native the planet.
>>570634108KWAB
>>570646819Not that anon but I started playing 2 today after having played the first a couple of months agoI'm really curious to how they'll adapt alien architecture and such when we inevitably reach those sort of areas, with how gorgeous all the human stuff already is, I can only imagine what they've cooked up for the Pfhor
>>570647210>they've cooked up for the PfhorThey cooked up a delay to 2027, they're not gonna release a big update closer to GTA and Modern Warfare
>>570647036>/mg/ littered with posts about rooks being a terror in sponsored survival>probably 100+ runs of it so far and have met a rook exactly 1 timei'm pretty sure most rooks are doing the other maps which have actual loot and players bringing in loadouts
>>570647402I'm content with waiting, just as long as the game doesn't flat out die out and go on life support before they get to get to even cooler stuff just because Bungie fucked up the genre of game they made. The aesthetics of nuMarathon is just unmatched
>Return on Investment 3/5>load up Day Marsh because Night Marsh is too hot>get the terminal on the west side of Marsh>go to the East side to kill the Commander>LOCKDOWN: COMPLEX right as I get there, not kitted, fucked out of the quest because of the lockdown>die on the way to the exfil"okay fine let's try night marsh, my spawns tend to be better there">spawn at anomaly>LOCKDOWN: ANOMALY>run out of the boundaries before it hits"well at least it's anomaly and not complex, I should be fine">get to the first building with the terminal>it's in the lockdown zone anyway
so tired irlliving just to play marathon rnhella story here btwhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/
>>570623915>WeWe can't. That's Bungie's job. They've already said they will do it. All we can do complain about every little or big thing we dislike about the game.
>>570625619Pick Vandal or Destroyer for speed. People keep saying that Rooks spawn there even if you are alone, but I'm yet to see proof of that. And if they do spawn, the extra mobility will help dealing with them. But Triage is also a good option for amazing sustain in PvE.>What things should I go look for to see?Idk, everything. Pick a building that you feel like you know little about and explore. Also check out the tunnel system.Also, does anyone else notice that when you do solo SSP, you always spawn near the northmost DCON?
I just need to thirst people that try to be friendly I just can't trust anyone in this game. You meet one friendly and move on and it makes you let your guard down.
How do I get good with the lookout?
>>570653073I've seen a Rook while soloing the mode at least once, it's just that Rooks are so fuckin rare in that mode that you barely ever see them at all.>Also, does anyone else notice that when you do solo SSP, you always spawn near the northmost DCON?Not always, but 90% of the time yeah. Saw the same in Night Marsh with spawning west of Maintenance, either in the canal or just south of it, with the very, very rare instance of spawning just south of the catwalk area of AI Uplink
why am i getting free kits in my fills when i bring a blue shield, two blue guns, and whatever else/?
>>570654382so you can carry them and they can hoover up literally everything of value while you do the hard work.
>>570654382>>570654468cry about ityou had squad fill turned on, you knew the risks
>>570653127their are downright cunts about itring of gyges the video game
>>570654382Skill issue.
>>570648734Well, given how the last free to play and season launch went, it's not looking good.
my best game of the day was a solo where i killed two runners and got out from the guarded exfil but i tried like five times to do a traxus quest where you summon a transport drone from station and I could not fucking find the terminal to summon the drone and then the robots would shoot me and people would show up and I'd die
I pinged a runner and some guy started literally screaming in his mic "WHAT THE FUCK BRO WHY DID YOU PING HIM?". Um, what? Why is that bad?
>>570659865If you ping a recon you basically gave yourself away lol
>>570660041Ah, ok.
>>570657516As much as I hope the PvE can turn it around, I'm not really expecting Bungie being able to course correct enough and bring the people that would have been attracted initially to the game unfortunately. Whatever grand plans they might have had for it will just go unmade as they wind down development and never touch this series again because it's tainted. It annoys the shit out of me that they're tanking such a unique world because of their hubris that they thought that making a game designed for an audience that has very little to do with their established audience garnered over +20 years would go well. Legitimately what the fuck were they thinking
>>570660446Yeah, as an OG Marathon fan it's honestly baffling. I really like NuMarathon and play it as much as I can but not launching with even a vestigial single player story mode is a decision I'll never understand, especially in a series mostly known for its lore and story. I guess that's just not how games are made these days. I don't think a story mode would have saved it as the problems this game are far more complex than that but it's a bummer that when this game inevitably shuts down then that's it. All of that story and atmosphere will only exist in screenshots and videos and entries on the story of marathon website. There's a chance this game doesn't even live long enough to get to some of the cooler stuff I'm sure they've planned and, most likely, we'll never even get to find out what it was and the 30 year long story will remain unfinished. I really don't know what can even be done at this point. People just don't like this game and have plenty of valid reasons as to why. On top of that it has one of the strangest hate fandoms I've seen in recent history rooting for it to fail. People's first impression of this game is probably "oh that dying game that everyone hates?" and that's kind of an impossible battle to fight against. PvE would make a lot of people already playing the game happy but they'd have to spend even more money they don't have practically begging people to play their game. I'm just trying to enjoy whatever time we have left with the game but I can't help mourning what could have been if things were different.
forgot about this game for a whilechecking in
>>570660446they fired they guy with vision and brought some cunt that knew to tick all the current meme boxes. Now we won't have a persistent world/ map anymore where rotting bodies give you a clue to the timing of when a battle took place, and all such types of details.
>>570660446They already showed their PVE skill. They'd need at least a AAA budget to improve, and I doubt they could even if they had the budget. >>570663353>On top of that it has one of the strangest hate fandoms I've seen in recent history rooting for it to fail.Bungie went out of their way to take strong, controversial political positions for years. They should expect an uphill battle from half the population from that alone.
>>570665348 Or where the super sweats weren't stomping the new players out, and instead recruiting them to be the BOBs to their Security officer in some emergency mission, possibly against some rival security officer with his own BOBs.
>>570623915Well that was torturous to watch. This is the kind of players can't play a game unless there is yellow paint everywhere. I'm not even defending Marathon's onboarding (or lack thereof), this guy is just genuenly retarded.
Game is good but you can feel the playerbase getting smaller every day. The gamut of players is too shallow.
They just need more content: contracts, maps
>>570667973And I'll be leaving for a week as well since the Order of the Sinking Star demo comes out today.
>>570648734>cook up best art style a game's had in years>waste it on a niche BR genre>brings back one of the richest worlds with unmatched sci-fi storytelling potential>relies on dark souls-like item description loreslop and actual story progression moves at an impossibly slow pace through seasonal nothingsjej well played bungo
>>570668548The hit upcoming game from J.Blow™?
Why do people keep calling Sentinel's defender system a "trophy" system?
>>570670526call of duty
>>570670526Trophy systems are gadgets from Call of Duty multiplayer
>>570660446>As much as I hope the PvE can turn it aroundI'd like to see the PvE fail, I like the game, but I'd rather let it EOS, then let casualfags have it>>570665461Based sweats
season 2 got raped and gaped
>>570674404By me(exfil camperRook)
I just got profiteer but don't feel like playing anything else than rook on sponsored. Someone's gotta keep up the tension and collect taxes
>bring gear>get matched with freekits>bring freekit>get matched with geared playersI'm onto you bungie you motherfuckers.
>>570677968I'll be honest I don't think I've ever noticed what gear my team mates bring
>>570670526how are you this out of touch?
>>570679217I don't play CoD.
Do you get nervous on Marathon, do you need to prepare mentally?How did one vidya break so many men, turned them into slssies
>>570663353>People just don't like this game and have plenty of valid reasons as to why.Other players shitting on them, is that really a valid reason? There was a free beta, didn't they play it? If they did, they knew they would get shit on. Why buy if you suck at video games.
>>570680294Sometimes I need to piss immediately after a tense run, but my vault is literally filled to the brim and I only started playing during the free weekend, losing some shit is only a benefit for me. Plus being a shitkit rat is really fun.
>>570680294>Do you get nervous on Marathon, do you need to prepare mentally?Yeah, i often get a build or load out i really enjoy and hate risking it with random retards.>How did one vidya break so many men, turned them into slssiesI think it's probably gear scarcity. I can gear my guy out, but i cant 'build craft' what i want so easily. That's my biggest complaint about this game. You can create some really interesting shit, but only once in a blue moon and then you might only get to experience it for a couple of minutes depending on what happens during a raid.
>>570665369>Bungie went out of their way to take strong, controversial political positions for years. They should expect an uphill battle from half the population from that alone.The raped destiny fans really think they stuck it to Marathon with the last patch. I think the hate is finally subsided.
haven't played rook in a while, really funny of 9/10 games i've played on outpost now it's just a bunch of dead free kit teams lying around and then a team in cryo skins running through pinwheel with shotguns and a full kit
>Play solos>Have good time>Play rook>Have good time>Play with friends>Have good time>Try trio fill>Have the worst time i have had in multiplayer videogames in my 30 years playing videogamesIts like you took minecraft server greifters, mmo "you dont pay my sub" mouthbreathers and the worst case of protagonist syndrome you have ever seen and rolled it into the same guy but that guy is most of the guys you encounter in trio with randos.Is it just the absolute worst shitters all hoping two other players carry them?
It's amazing how anyone could think this game is supposed to be taken seriously when recon ult exists, and the faggot retard playerbase couldn't make use of the wallhacks >ugggghh is that a team of players in that spot bots have never once patrolled, this ult kind of sucks!so they had to make sure enemy players get a big notification over their head.
>decide to enrich pve players with some PvP>load into perimeter at 13 minutes remaining >5 minutes have passed, runners probably still at spawn POI>I check every POI, no signs of runners.>I check pve events like secured container, crash site, and intercept>I start checking quest objectives >I find absolutely no one and I hear absolutely nothing>I head to final exfil, I’m the only one who extractsdid these shitters actually die to bots at their spawn?
>>570686126at least her scan is useful unlike sentinal's motion tracker. did they forget anyone inside of 35m is also very audible? the thing really only has a use on dire marsh when running through the jungle. the entire ability just feels like an obligatory nod to the original games.
Do higher rarity weapons get improved stats? (besides the stats they get from their mods)
>>570686534That motion tracker fucks when you’re hiding in a building.
>>570687238It's the mods that give them the rarity.
>>570687238No, the mods are the only difference between any two of the same gun
>>570687495I know, but like does that higher rarity on the weapon itself actually do anything, or is just the mods?
>>570686534sentinel is a sound tracker not a motion tracker
part of me feels like solo ratting on outpost against trios with at most green equipment, is this a bad idea?
D54 makes me want to quit the game, dead twice today to that. It rewards completely braindead play too.
>>570686501>sought to spoil other people's time>spoiled his ownGod is telling you something, son.
>>570690895worst part is you dont even have to click each burst, you can just hold down fire and it keeps bursting.
>>570691948For real? I’ve been clicking it… so it’s just a better Brrt?
>>570691873I’m making the game more engaging for them, I’m doing God’s work.
>>570694939better Brrt pretty much fully summarizes that thing yeah. Only purpose the Brrt serves now is for cheaters to slap a gold mod on it for instant downs
>>570663353Honestly I'm fine without a campaign, at the very least it could have had a lite-campaign that's just some scripted missions with railroading changes done to the current existing maps. Could even have updated this campaign as time went on when new maps dropped since they already kind of have built in lore that between 1 and 2 Durandal just puts the security officer in stasis for 17 years so the events of this evolving campaign could appear right back to back, even though to us time has passed in between. With a 200 million budget we should have had a proper campaign, but I would have been willing to forego that if it meant a much more expansive main mode, and yet it feels like there's fuck all to show for it with what's currently in the game. Hopefully they have a shit ton of content developed beyond even just season 5 that they can dripfeed since it's hard to imagine there'll be heavy development of new content going forwardI'm just shocked that there was flat out no PvE option at all. It seems like business 101 to me that you cater to your existing audience (of largely casual, low/no stakes PvE/Co-op players) instead of trying to make products for a very far removed audience. Maybe it made sense when D2 was doing well, but even then they had to figure it couldn't last and making a new PvE game to capture players that just don't want to play D2 due to all the baggage it has and at least serve as interim while they could have started developing D3 would have made sense>>570665348Vision or not as long as the game was largely hardcore PvP focused it was doomed to fail
>>570694939Its just better everything, best damage and outranges all SMGs too.
just donated another kit for free because I got matched with micless retards
>>570689623In case any of you want to play actual GOOD Bungie games.
>>570707081Unironically might go in on this.But it depends on how much space MCC takes upMy HDD is pretty full
>>570707223>HDD>2026
>>570707081Based
>8,085 players right nowOH NONONONO
>ONI announces the return of the C.A.R.R.I. Protocol.>>Assist crewmates with contracts or complete them solo.>>Exfil with other players as a Rook or solo Runner.>>Spend Commendations in the C.A.R.R.I Armory, featuring a weekly rotating weapon, Reputation Packs, and more.https://x.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2066568385132179864Not sure why this is an event desu, it should just be the norm.
>>570707550it's fine. nothing will happen
>>570707964If we call it an event every season, then it's new content!
>>570707964>just rerunning CARRI again
>>570707964Yeah let's promote teaming in solos even further that totally won't make things more miserable
>>570710941Sorry, I didn't know that's a problem in solos because I play the real mode
>>570707964Remember when they first launched CARRI and the first 3 weeks the rep packages never refreshed?
>Random trio fill>One guy making noises that genuinely sounds like he is getting fucked in the ass or squatting on a dildo>Other despite being EU peak hours is a, may allah forgive me, american>American runs in and instantly within seconds runs into a ghost commander at south relay>Other guy follows into a claymore and dies, makes orgasm noise i shit you not>burger guy: ouhhh no, ah thunk these guys have noh micruhfuns or sumthin>see which way the wind is blowing and just step on a mine on purpose and leaveI know the playerbase is low but fuck grouping with burgers it never ends well.
>Dire Marsh with randos>one has a key in Maintenance>rush there from Algae spawn in less than a minute>team already camping the roof with snipers
>>570715873well yeah maintenance is one of the PoIs that always has two teams spawn adjacent to it, it's literally a coin flip if you're going to be contested by another team rushing there
Let me pull up the map when I'm dead
>going into Quarantine or Maintenance on night marsh without a darksight or thermalsActual hell, the evil aura emanating from those two POIs is truly obscene.
had a little kid just pull the give me the loot or I quit card and it's one of the funniest things that's happened while playing.
>>570716229I fucking love fights in night Quarantine, it's such a complex space for how pitch black it is with so many options
>>570716229gotta fill your bag with usless glowsticks
>Gaming is doing so poorly and losing so many players that they're popping the Carri Event early this Season
>>570670526Trophy is the brand name of an anti explosive auto gun system. Finest in Jewish gun tech.>>570679217COD has been ass for a decad.e >>570672245This is like saying the AK's from counterstrike.
My last trios in sponsored>German guy: O'KOY, WE ARE DOINGFV MINE QVEST, ZERO DEBATE ZERE WILL BE>Its just the basic bitch north to south then get commander>Other guy just follows him silently>Hes heading to the south relay with the warden up>Didnt even bother to get any loot first in free kit gear>He goes inside a building>VAS IST DIS>Bleeding out icon on bottom left>DIS GAME, FAKKING BOOLSHIT>He disconnects>End up teaming up with Rook, getting a bag and a bunch of blue and green loot and getting outI assume beginner These have to be destiny players thinking they are gods and everything is a loot pinata.
>>570706378Skill issue.
>>570716562That happened to me a week or so ago but it was a grown ass adult that was upset I took a purple from a chest we were both in and for seven minutes straight kept complaining - gave it to him so we could focus on the match and in turn ran to the closes exfil and left us both.Literally called XxXShadow something-somethingXxX
>>570710941It's even more hilarious when the 15 man rape squad decides to try solos when the pop is about 5k, and end up with half the slots on an instance. >>570716853For the rave!
Question about solos.Does it fill the map with the amount of players or the amount of squads.So would outpost have 12 competing players to match the total playercount the map has or would it have 4 to match the total squad count?
>>570717242Now imagine if people could dome you for "stealing" their loot
Why is FIVE THOUSAND the buyin for ranked? Who the fuck needs to bring more than 1k for any reason? Am I just expected to be fully kitted out head to toe in gold gear or carry riches for the gold players to use? This seems completely antithetical to the idea of a looting game.
Hmmm do I do it boys? I'm seeing a lot of whining in this thread
>>570718576It's a good game.
>>5707184955k is just some implants and a half decent gun with heals and a blue shield
>>570718495Yes, Ranked is antithetical to the entire genre of Extraction Shooters and the Ante system is retarded in general because it either requires rare and expensive guns or bringing tons of consumes and items in. This also brings up the problem of people skirting the Ante system for Cryo by bringing in tons of shit items to leech the map.
>>570717832not sure on the hard numbers but solos is a lot closer to just replacing the teams with solo people. That is to say there's not very many people on the map. It varies on every map but I don't think any map holds more than 6 solo players.
The Ante system should just be replaced with a buy-in system where you pay 5k credits to do Cryo or Ranked.
>>570680748>I think the hate is finally subsided.lmao.
>>570719041There are some balance problems as most games deal with but overall if you're open to a mostly PvP game you're in for what I think is the best time you can have right now. The bulk of the game design here that matters is extremely good and the maps are masterpieces of design.I suggest filling into trios and not trying to do stuff solo, you'll learn faster and there's a good community in this game. I've made lots of friends groupfilling, in general I feel like there's a pretty strong sense of community in-game. Always some assholes and weirdos but yknow.
>>570718495To reduce bots, and throwers, and because it's intended to be an endgame gear flush.
>>570718576Unless you have a dedicated team of people to play with, it's probably a waste of fucking money.
>>570719127Cryo having a buy in feels completely retarded when you can actually just gear up stupidly fast. It's the easiest map to come in with nothing on by a landslide. The only thing you get fucked on is not coming in with good heals and at least blue shields.Ranked shouldn't exist
>Start with randoms>Me and triage looting north relay>Assassin went alone to hauler, in the red>Go over to help>Just pop the last one then open his orb to get some ammo back>Assassin: OH LOOK AT THIS HERE, THIS LITTLE FUCKIN' FREAK THINKS HE CAN COME HERE AND STEAL MY SHIT, GO FIND YOUR OWN FUCKING SHIT WITHOUT ME CARRYING YOU >Disconnects>Me and Triage go on to have legendary run even taking out a gold warden and i leave with my first purplesWe both just laughed and called him a whiny bitch. Naturally he was of course an American. The land of "got mine"/"not my problem" is not built for this genre.
Sometimes I'll get downed by another player but then they'll just stand over me and not execute me. Are they trying to talk to me but I can't hear them for some reason?
>>570718576Buy a key and save a bit more>>570717832It's neither here nor there. They keep changing it, but last time I checked it was 7 on perimeter 8 on marsh, something along those lines. You can check it yourself by opening recent players list after a solo match, it'll show you everyone that was with you in that match.
>>570720105Yeah I've got a friend to play withAnd we usually duo even in games that force trios, used to it
>>570718576Make sur eyou play solo firstYou'll have some trolls here insisting that trios are mandatory but they really mean that you should just hope you get carried without actually learning how to play the game.Marathon is intended to be started solo
>>5707223717 or 8 sounds about right for solos. Trios is what 4 teams? Duos I imagine is 4 or 5.
>>570722493How are you with being forced to take a third? Cryo is straight up unavailable to anyone with a squad less than 3 - you can queue and get a random to fill in the last spot for your duo, but you can't just turn off Crew Fill on that map, and it's the fourth map that the game kind of revolves around. You build gear in the other 3 maps, then take in your big kits to Cryo to contest with the big boys.
Solos and by extension Duos feel the most like an actual extraction shooter compared to Trios which just feels like Apex with more pretense. At least in the former two you can actually kind of stealth around the map and choose your engagements instead of it being a conga line rape fest.
People who started with S2 whats your lvl, playtime and factions at right now? curious to see how beginners who dont know what they are doing are going through it.
>>5707226866 trios on marsh IIRC
>>570724085>30 hours>lvl.35>cyac 13>nu 13>traxus 10>mida 6>arachne 1>sekiguchi 10Havent pvp'ed much since feeding all my gear to the cradle thus far and being a free kit scab.
>>570722563i wish the game was actually tuned for solo. it's daytime horror + atmosphere + constant adrenaline rush. it's actually fun instead of this fuck-up apex legends game we get instead with trios.
>>570724334>18 people on a mapThat's kind of crazy
>>570724468It really is like they accidentally stumbled onto something good while trying to make actual slop. Bravo Bungo!
>>570724468Thing is, Marathon actually does have highly detailed handcrafted environments with storytelling and moments like pic related will get completely overlooked by someone blitzing through the game in a trio.
>>570724085I've given up trying to do priority or otherwise contracts because I rarely exfil so all of them are around levels 1 to 7 maybe? I'm Lvl 50 on Season Pass
>>570724921there's a lot of shit working against the game's lore>timerYeah let me just carefully listen to this audio log while the timer constantly clicks down and the longer I stay the less likely I'll get to leave>pvpOther people shooting you in the back means that one of the worst things you can do is take the time to actually look at the environmen>noisehalf the audio stuff plays out loud, so sticking around to listen to something just means some other player knows where you are. Or in the case you posted, you had to kill a few ghosts to scan that area - once again sticking around to actually listen means anyone nearby gets a free kill.>triosYep, reading at my own pace is definitely likely when my two crewmates are waiting on me to get ready and queue up again, or having a loud conversation with their kids/spouse with an open mic.The game has the lore of a slow horror adjacent exploration game (like the labs in STALKER) but pairs it with the gameplay of Apex, it feels like it's working against itself.
The day Duos or Solos Cryo drops the game will be saved.
>>570725453God-tier comparison Anon, that's exactly how it feels to me as well. Especially now with Night Marsh, can barely get scared because you and or your team are bunny hopping or Destroyer running, Thief grappling hook with knives out to Alage or Gate because they just want to kill other players like it's Apex
>>570724085>53 hours>S. Level 48>Cyac 18 Nucal 15 Traxus 11 Mida 8 Arachne 3 Suckigucci 10Basipally, im trash at PvP
>>570724370I'm about the same as this with sek/arachne 5
>In the mood to be a rotten little soldier>Jump into sponsored as Rook>Check every POI no windows broke, no dead bots, no open doors or chests>Exfil in the middle, stay on roof of orange building till 25 seconds left>Run down ready to drop a grenade and get stabbin>Nobody there>2 seconds before the screen goes black i see the triage bot in front of me, then for a second it offers me a second spectating a sentinel then black screen>Had the red icons in the top right flickering the whole timeSo what happened here csi team?
For fucks sake bungie.
Are the reverbs not spawning on night marsh? I've done like 10 raids and they don't seem to spawn anymore?
Got "A Sheep Amongst Wolves" the dumbest way>2 minutes to final exfil>Just put a single obvious claymore in the middle of the open path they can't miss>They see it, not looking for me to the side circling behind>Freak the fuck out and run into the orange office and crouch and hide>On proxy chat to middle eastern accents going "a'nuuuhhh man fuck FUCK what we do?" "uhhhhh i dunno man there is a villain after us!">Climb around back, jump and end from the roof>Pop buff, knife out>Land right near one and down them>Other panics and runs into corner going "AAAHHHH NO MY FRIEND PLEASE, MY FRIEND PLEASE">Down them both>1:20 to exfil at bottom of the hill>"I'll meet you guys at exfil, you can do it i believe in you">Watching them snail trail down the hill and the clocks ticking down>One gets in "thank you my friend, please we are all good yeah?">Other gets stuck on rock geometry "FAKKIN BASTARD BITCH I FUCK YOUR MOTHER I FUCK YOU-">Port out, have nice new knife skin>Mfw
Literally what is the point of spawning rook in at <5m for sponsored?
>>570728454Basically to relive the early days of being a killer in Dead by Daylight.
Just encountered a gold shielded ghost randomly in sponsored Perimeter at my first POI. Didn't even know that was possible
Orion is voiced by Andy Serkis, right? It sounds a lot like him.
>>570725453There aren't that many audio logs presumably because somewhere in dev people realized no one's going to have time to listen to them in an extraction shooterthey're also generally pretty short too but I won't really defend them, they're dumb for the format, but they also don't actually tell you much and the lore you recover from doing it in the codex tells you so much more.I personally really like the hook that you simply can't take your time and search everything in this incredibly detail packed environment. The contrast makes it work so much more for me. I get to inspect pieces of it at a time basically while under the constant (real) tension of other players. This gels exactly with the setup of the lore which kinda heightens it for me. Yeah no shit you can't just leisurely walk around this colony, of course there are other people also trying to loot it, of course you have limited time and have to do what you can do within it. It just all works for me. No one's upset if you mute and listen to cinematics for prio contracts, they take seconds, but who the fuck is reading codex entries between matches? Save that for when you're done playing bro. You can read them anytime.
>>570728702Are you new? That's just a Warden spawn.
>>570728702haven't done sponsored peri but I've seen gold ghost at overflow more than a few times
>>570728851I am new but doesn't the Warden take time to spawn?
>>570720171Ranked is bait for cheaters and hypersweats. You don't want to know what it's like without it.
>>570729059No. Warden is there from the start.
>>570729209Oh then I'm stupid, please ignore
>>570721319Some of them are masturbating. Don't ask how I know.>>570722493Cryo is the big map and it demands 3. But the call is yours.
>>570722563Such bullshit. Solo is an unbalanced, last second addition and it shows.
>>570723460The rape is the entire point of the game though.>>570725453Because it is. The original superior design was much slower paced and more casual friendly, instead of the current rape or be rape system.
>>570718576Do not listen to >>570722563Only buy this game if you like pure PVP action + have friends. Solo is a terrible experience where everyone is Assassin (invisibility class) camping corners or sniping from buildings unseen, and the endgame map doesn't even allow solo play.Also it is probably shutting down before the end of the year.
I'm pretty sure, dumb as it sounds, i found a desperation rat in sponsored>Fucking about as rook to take a break from the contract churn>Like 6 minutes to exfil>All off a sudden out of nowhere i'm mowed down>Its a cloak assassin lurking behind some rocks near one of the two possible final exfils>Alone>Curious i watch for the 90 seconds to see what he does>Loots my bag very quickly looks around then runs back to spot behind rock, constantly looking left and right like hes paranoid>No other players at allTheres this fucked up element to Marathon i love which is encountering shit like this and going "what happened here?". Shot in the dark i imagine his team spawned by south relay starting with the gold warden, other two got rocked and this guy was too cowardly to go in and was just camping near a spawn for the whole match terrified of rooks.Like realistically after having explored the map and hauler was untouched along with station and north relay i can't imagine anything else to explain the lack of players. Unless maybe a streamer ratting and he asks the other two to leave so he can? he did have a TTV name but still very odd one.
>>570722563I started solo and no. I wish I hadn't. Dogshit advice. Trios is much better.
>>570728834The tension of other players, the threat of loss, the ticking clock, and the equipment economy all combine to push pressure on the player to be optimal. You'll start the game panicking, rushing because you don't know what you're doing and even the bots are a credible threat. You'll transition to playing more effectively, optimizing, which means the only times you're standing still are looting or watching a choke point - in no point of the general player's progression is there a time when they'll slow down to look at the various assorted shit lying around. Some people will, some people will take video and use that to look at stuff, but the average player is not being directed to this.>Save that for when you're done playing bro. You can read them anytime.Again, the average player that they're trying to attract is going to be a trio player, if they're not on with their friends, they'll just turn the game off. And if they are, they sure as shit aren't gonna be reading the codex. If the game better supported solo play you might have more players who are invested like that, but there's really no natural pathway for the average player to become interested enough in the lore to read -all that shit-
Are people using some kind of click macro for the punch? This is the second time I've been downed in sub-0.5s ttk
>>570730645pretty sure it's just the netcode. I've been downed in one shot with a Punch, one burst from a battle pistol, and it's most likely the game client just didn't receive the 'you are being shot' message until you were already one second into the 1.3s TTKAt one point when I was playing night marsh sponsored with two friends, a Rook in our view killed all three of us with a single shot each with a Punch. I do not think cheats do that.
>>570730563The priority contracts literally encourage you to look around and learn the maps and take in details. You don't actually have to play like paranoid crackhead, especially in trios where you generally have several warning signs another squad's around.
>>570731053>You don't actually have to play like paranoid crackheadyeah if I'm playing Trios then I'm playing it like Apex.
>>570731030Maybe, the servers have been shitting themselves all season
>>570729063I wasted some time getting gold in season 1 before ranked cryo happened and then stopped. Wanted to do cryo during the week when it was ranked and it turned that map from one of my favorites in any shooter into pure frustration. Flaws of the map that get exposed when all 5 teams are competent aside, it felt like there were blatant cheaters every other game. Not touching that shit again, the destroyer skin was not at all worth it
>>570731196you don't have to do that either though. there's so much fucking exaggeration about shit you seem pointless to converse with.
>>570730563Shit, I've been playing since Season 1 and I still can't wrap my head around dealing with other teams be it solo, duos, or trios.Especially trios, I don't know how I'm suppose to clutch when my teammates are dead. I very, very rarely am able to kill anyone. I know I'm hitting them and dumping mags worth but they turn around and pop in in one to two bullets and it stil makes me confused as fuck - doesn't matter what gun either feels like none of my bullets connect even though I'm getting that visual queue on my crosshair
>seeing more and more people crouch spam during gunfights
>>570731352I mean yeah you don't have to do anything, it's a game. If I wanted to take stuff in, I'd load in with a sponsor kit or as a Rook and go look. Which I have done, lots of times it's how I made those maps I stopped posting because who gives a shit. But everyone I know personally does not 'take it in' and spends their limited time in an objective focused manner. You're right in saying that priority contracts do have an element that is encouraging you to look at stuff, but in the host of other factors, it's minor and doesn't reflect in the average playerbase having an appreciation for the detailed environments or lore.Obviously my experiences are anecdotal, I only have seven people I know who all fall into that same bucket.
>>570731940That's all I see anymore.Especially with UESC, jump crouch spamming like you're on GMOD fucks with bullet registeringDoesn't help Bungie still haven't entirely fixed capping your FPS at 30 to survive longer still works in Destiny 2 as well.
>>570729404>>570730271>>570730475>Marathon isnt meant to be played solo, they just have you start the game solo for no reason>it's le tutorialAny other game just drops you in an open server with countless players without so much as a button guide. There is ZERO reason the devs could not have started Marathon in a trio scenario. You are only coping because you got carried in a trio instead of struggling and learning and appreciating the satisfaction of winning.
>>570732381I don't know what to tell you Anon.The content creators and people they invited to test Marathon before release had to fight to add Solo and then Duo (during release) they were apparent insistent to not allow Solo.I think a Skarrow9 video goes into how they had to beg the devs to introduce Solo and Rook as example.
>>570732157But what I'm saying is that even when you're playing in a focused manner like that you are still, unavoidably, taking in details. These things are in your vision. There are so many details and little things that you can keep learning just on map layout design for a long time across all maps on their own and having to do shit like that makes you look at other details. You can't find vents without looking around. You can't do shit in Quarantine without seeing crazy shit on the walls in the cell. Maybe you don't register it, but you run through Quarantine 30 times and you increase the likelyhood of a detail like that catching your eye. The details still matter, your brain still processes them in the background because they are there, and there are plenty of moments of "peace" through matches when you play a bunch. Maybe it's because you cleared the lobby, maybe it's because you killed a team and know where the others are so you know you have time to chill a bit, whatever. This all happens. The only map that you rarely end up with time like this is Cryo which is pretty much full throttle the whole way in my experience.
>>570732381No actually they start you solo because it's just a tutorial and they simply wanted a normal tutorial instead of whatever derangement you are implying they should have done. Taking something like this from a tutorial that is supposed to mean nothing at all just shows how utterly fucking stupid you are, an average Marafaggot.
>>570732381counterpoint. literally every piece of promo material is about trios.
>queue into narsh as assassin just to do basic bitch contract and maybe if i can get out the traxus skin for him as i'm little babby beginner working my way through the free kit skins>Enter with pistol, 3 heals and fuck all else>Sneak around in the dark>Hear someone INNAWOODS set off ticks>Some guy who hasn't noticed me does this, alerts clankers who then dogpile>Pop stealth, kill the guy and get finishing blow, wait for bots to despawn>Purple bag and all purple shields, upgrades and weapons>I had literally nothing and have only had one blue item ever thus farGot my first hate mail i've gotten since the xbox 360 days. No wonder everyone hates assassin.
What the fuck did they do to my volt thrower, it's complete horseshit now.
>>570733417Based and Rookpilled
>>570733417Solos is such dogshit lmaoIt’s like the worst aspect of a battle royal, getting shot and killed from someone you never even saw, except the maps are tiny and the game is built from the ground up to make sure anything you do that isn’t sitting quietly will make you a prime target to get raped with no real recourse.Shitting on some unsuspecting bastard that never really stood a chance got old pretty quick too>>570730475I also can’t believe I spent my first 30-40 hours playing solo
>>570733109>Marathon goes out of its way to create an immersive and narrative opening for the player and still acting like Bungie suddenly doesn't care about their gameplay intentions. All those environment details mean nothing, presentation is a meme You're the deranged one
>>570732381>>570732585>>570733121I think Skarrow9 took it down but maybe a year or two ago he talked about how he and a handful of content creators had to beg to add solo and duo to the game along with proximity chatAs I'm looking for this, I forgot Bungie and Sony dropped oodles of money so Poppy could sing in the non-existing music for Marathon and got Skarrow9 to interview herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw982zIEc6U
>>570732381solos is factually the tacked on mode and they didn't design shit around itif you've ever played trios which it sounds like you haven't you'd realize exactly how much of a priority it was comparatively and how much more interesting the gameplay dynamics work, three people is a very top down choice for things like shell design and weapon/equipment balance and even map design. Everything is designed around it being three man teams traversing the map and working with each other. The gunfights are at their absolute best in trios. The only thing that isn't is the extraction shooter experience because the maps are too small/a single powerful team can too easily control the entirety of the map more or less.
>>570731053>You don't actually have to play like paranoid crackhead,This anon begs for rape.
>>570733906Hope you noticed they removed one of the four slots you could equip mods onto it Anon, also they made it so none of its add-on equipment have Aim Assist anymore because bullets were curving.I think one scope or maybe a muzzle for it still has a little aim assist but they killed its innate AA
>>570734146I think that that didn't actually happen and making big claims like that with zero proof beyond "I think maybe :)" is big silly.
>>570731337Those "flaws" are intentional. The map is designed to be a rape fest where even good teams get fourth partied.
>>570734218brother, I am the rapist. I am a Compiler killing gold shield-farming god always running a 3 stack of people I know. As far as the majority of the marathon playerbase is concerned I am the final boss.
>>570734368I fucking kneel
>Rook>Creeping around>drop from vent behind clueless duo walking down a hallway>Break both shields and down one but have to back off for reload>Go for the flank>These idiots that should 100% be dead for being clueless buffoons instead get a free pass in the form of built-in shell wall hacks and prefire me around the corner.Hurr durr why is the game dying I wonder
>>570734306the volt thrower always had one less mod, several guns get one less mod slot in exchange for inbuilt abilities, for the volt thrower it's optics in exchange for the strong homing, for the m77 it's no optics because of its built in one, for the BRRT it's no magazine in exchange for sucking dick there's no upside
>>570734146>astroturfed top comments from all the in game factionsAbsolutely pathetic
>>570734320Ok, I found another YouTuber who has the clips from Skarrow9 talking about some of the things they had to beg forhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QeGsn5-pJsTimestamp is 22:06
>>570734801WAIT SORRY16:44, I don't think its the entire Skarrow video I cant find it at all on Skarrows channel anymore, but it is around how they had to beg for Prox Chat that they begged for Rook and Solo
>>570734589you can hear every ability being used that gives you awaygit gud
Exfils on night marsh are so fucking stupid. Pay 5 certs AND THEN you have to fucking go over to the exfil beacon and start it a second time. Everyone just waits for final on this map and it's no fucking wonder
>>570734078The real game starts with Trios selected by default. Are you really so fucking stupid you can't figure out why a tutorial would be solo play?
>>570734589Should have downed the Recon first ;)
>>570735312it's not really a big dealI think most people go for final exfil because certmaxxing for chests is something you can spend pretty much the whole match doing between caches and actual lockboxes, nevermind complex
>>570734359>no you don’t understand, it’s supposed to be retarded>it’s actually great for players to spend time and credits building a loadout so they can coin toss on whether they’re gonna be the team in the middle of the rape sandwichYeah wow, great
>>570668548>>570669134Never mind, I finished it in 4 hours.
>>570718576People don't whine about bad games. They just don't play them.
>>570736096And they're not playing Marathon. So?
>>570735453Why are you so upset about it?
>>570734949It was about the whole initial rounds of alpha/early beta and Rook largely. The Solo experience was always part of the parcel, while Duos weren't even considered back during that initial feedback. Rook was the thing that wasn't supposed to exist, which is sort of crazy as most of the games in the genre do feature a scav mode and some lighter options for solo side-content gameplay so the players having to actually come up and say that likely saved the game for a lot of people who enjoy scav runs.
>>570734306God that's so fucking gay.
Did they make it so that doing a melee attack immediately halts all forward momentum from a slide?
>>570700265>Effort posting in a Marathon generalDo you feel in charge?
>in a friend's discord>someone posts a destiny raid boss>it's just 6 people standing under a warlock's orb buff firing rocket launchers at the boss>someone dies and gets rezzed and doesn't even move, just keeps firing, dies againno wonder destiny players suck at marathon. i remember doing nightfall strikes and it was just constant movement trying not to get hit by some stray beam from a random mob that would one shot me because of the burn modifier. >>570720105i've had plenty success with randoms doing everyone's contracts in one run.
>>570735682the biggest problem marathon as a whole faces is that what people want is more of the ability to actually disengage from fightsIt's basically impossible against truly good teams who really want you dead. Especially in Cryo, but it's pretty much true on all maps. There's enough room to do it when people aren't that great or aren't that invested in the fight but you can't really put up any meaningful barriers if you just don't want the fight, even with all the complexities of map design it doesn't matter when a Recon ult running around a PoI for a few seconds will find your clever underground vent hiding spot.
>>570731337isn't the best strat to just go in solo and collect a bunch of green valuables to ten stacks and then dip early without firing a shot? also going in with one gun and no implants or cores because finding those on site is worth more than bringing in ones with good perks.
where the fuck are the reverbs
>>570736804>It's basically impossible against truly good teams who really want you dead.What is the logic of teams where they clear like half of the map, their backpacks are filled as fuck and then go all-in on a murder death-team who downs them in 10 seconds?
>>570736972they're designed to detect players who are on a quest for them and not spawnidk why they aren't a staple all over night marsh, they're actually a great barrier for teams better than almost anything else
>>570733417yeah, that's my experience first timing in s2 as an assassin>outpost solo doing contracts>get shot at so i pop ult>it's an assassin so he pops ult>we run around the smoke like retards with our knives out and i somehow come out on top>trade my green ghetto kit for his purple cyac kit>go do my contract>i hear footsteps and pinwheel is opening>instead of going into pinwheel, they hang around for me to do my contract>it's ANOTHER assassin retard fest in the smoke>this time i lose
>>570734306They just gave it tracking equal to how Scar currently works and i'm not even sad it got fucking canned from the way it was. You had a lock on someone and they turn a corner and they would still be downed if you had even the slightest momentum sideways towards the edge of that curve because the tracking was so aggressive. I've got nothing against the way it works now on both of the weapons that feature it. Even then, i'd rather not talk about the cheap option balance currently as D54 is in the state it's in. Mid-Season needs heavy tuning to some of the shit we currently have at our hands.
>>570736972they're all over, the poor spawn rates is what keeps players playing because there's literally nothing else to do on narsh except kill bots > activate towers > go into complex and fight the boss.
>>570737294>>570736732
>>570737292The D54 is absolutely fucking retarded. 10 range nerf and an RPM nerf to not be totally fucking bananas. Maybe 15 range honestly because the other pistols might as well not fucking exist compared to it even in that state.Volt Thrower is still strong now and the SCAR actually feels a little better in comparison which I'm happy with.
>>570736804Yeah Recon ult is such a massive detriment to this game. Before the buff and everyone accepting it as the hard meta in cryo, you could feasibly come back from a lost team fight by hiding out and waiting for the enemy team to move on. Now you try that and the team will sit there on the bodies the entire game throwing out their recon ults on cooldowntil they catch you.Whatever though, the new battle pistol is another testament to either how pants on head stupid the developers are or how little they give a fuck about any semblance of balanceBut It’s my fault for expecting anything from a game with a level of aim assist designed for people with genuine mental and physical deficiencies
>>570736675Fatum iustum stultorum
>>570737220just run thief and you rape all assassins every timebut the better option is not to play solos because even without thief invisibility it is way too rewarding for the most cancerous camping and ambushing strategies
What are the UESC succ cables anyway?
>>570737684they succ your precious datafluids
>>570737782Good Heavens!
>>570738019We only have Bad Heavens on Tau Ceti IV
Who could have thought recon ended up being the go to cheesecake character? i honestly expected thief or vandal but all my artists friends are getting comissioned to to recon smut almost exclusively.
>>570736972I've done over 10 night marsh runs and haven't seen a single one. They only spawned when I didn';t have the quest.
>>570738223Thief is a sticc asian girlVandal is edgy alt girlRecon is less defined and easier to project more varied takes and fetishes onto
>>570738535seems to be big fat cottage cheese dumpy in most art.
>>570738223Recon has delicious thighs and is therefore best.
spot the shooter
>>570739008That little blob next to those three blue doohickeys on the roof, above the window
>>570739008what's that in the window of the keyroom
>>570737642oh, i'm not mad about solos and assassins. and i used to main thief in S1 and discovered quickly how OP the visor is. i just think it's hilarious that solo has devolved into >play assassin>crouch in a corner till F is off CD>press F and start moving to the nearest gunshot or foot steps>throw smoke and run around inside with your knife out like a dumbass. also, that one leg implant that restores health and shields on melee is ridiculously OP when having to fight many bots in an enclosed area. Parting gift i believe it's called.
>>570739008ding ding ding winner!!!>>570739219Not sure, the damage indicator threw me off so I thought the runner was inside the building instead of on top of it.
>>570737482>The D54 is absolutely fucking retarded.my friends have just started running this and a mizzy in cryo. you don't need any other gun.
>>57073952190% of encounters on any map you don't need more than it since you can get to 30m sightlines effortlessly pretty much everywhere on all maps
I LOVE one hit kill sniper rifles in full loot pvp games!!
Marathon about to lose more players to Misftall Hunter releasing July 29th.
>less than 8 minutes in night marsh>figure map must be empty by now>actually have enough certs and a lab key, say fuck it and go try to open the elevator>get jumped as I kill the commanderSometimes this game really pisses me off
>>570733417>>570737220This is why I decided to just start using Thief in all of my solo matches, unless I'm feeling particularly sprinty for some Destroyer fun. Way too nice being able to cuck assassins trying to run through smoke or stealth at me with my I-Win-Vision. Also lead to my new extreme sport of recreating Thief (series) in ranked by joining solo and trying to get as much valuable loot as I can and getting out without alerting the bloodthirsty murder hobos camping all the best POIs.
>>570732825Noticing a vent location is not the same as taking in the sights and details, that amount of movement and frenetic play turns all of the actual detail into noise. My brain "processing them in the background" doesn't mean much for my direct experience with the art nor does it invalidate the other anon's take that the gameplay loop encourages mindless running, so no, you really can't sit there and just soak it all up. If you sit there you slow down your team, your fills might just run off, or you'll have friends yapping in your ears if you play the optimal gamemode. Tarkov has the perfect gameplay balance for taking in the areas and small details, cultist signs, scav/PMC corpse placements, etc. Marathon has the scenery for it but the gameplay feels exported from an entirely different game.Frankly the game design feels like half-measures in every direction and the development Hell this game went through shows. It has bad pacing, it's not particularly enjoyable because it's built like a BR not an ES. It's not cohesive, and it's detrimental to enjoyment of the game. In S1 I thought "Ah, well, it's the introductory season of a rushed game" but then they doubled down on the worst lessons from S1, making everything even faster and more movement oriented, even though their trailers try to capture this survival horror feel the actual game discourages it.
>get outgunned by the battle pistol at 30m+ with a fully kitted out hardlineBungie deserves to fucking die
Thief visor being on demand thermals is actual horseshit on night maps, what's even the point of trying to hide in the darkness when some nigger just presses Y and had 30 seconds of free thermals
>>570744317>presses YRollerfag detected. This is what you deserve.
>>570743567You don't know where it is without looking for it bro. The whole game is looking around PoIs. You literally have to look around for shit, not just to learn the map initially but as part of the loop in general. Eventually you hit the point you aren't actually looting any PoIs but it's a ways in to the season for a lot of people. To do all the things you have to do to play well, you have to look around and and increases your chance to notice and appreciate things. I don't really know why you think they're at odds with each other. It is actually cohesive in game design and I think it's one of the strengths personally. If what you're interested in most is looking around you do it as you can. The constraint makes getting to do it feel better to me in general.
>>570744394nah I just know all thief players are consolenigs cause they need every crutch and advantage they can get.
>>570744498You don't have to know where it is to see them, they are simple squares that pop out for a reason. I just instinctually know where most of them are because they follow a general game design of attaching to adjacent rooms and facilitating vertical movement. You see it once you know how it works in basically any building in the game that shares a theme.Currently the game does not value looking at anything in POIs, it's running to the sound of gunshots and fighting/third partying whoever because the POI loot is bad for one, and also because playing slow is detrimental to successful extraction. The only time a successful player slows down is after a sound queue or during entry to a new POI and it's not because of map design or artistic detail but because of player presence. The game morphs into recognizing columns and height for cover and advantage, the details have no part in this, because you don't have time for details in a movement shooter which is the spike being driven through the heart of Marathon right now.
Why isn't there an option to change audio device for game sound? You can change the voice chat input and output devices but not the whole game.
>>570745117That's the late game and it's heavily because PoIs are designed around silly gates like keys and random spawns of events. There is a significant amount of playtime the PoI loot is valuable because you need random shit like storage drives for faction leveling. There are several places vents are just in obscure locations or PoIs have intricacies you learn beyond "just glancing" at them. There is a lot to learn of all map design in this game, there's a lot of various incentives to actually have to look around for shit as part of quests and to progress and to do events on the map and everything else. What else is there to incentivize looking around and noticing shit in a PvP environment?
>>570732825Had to take a few meetings so delayed my response, but I would highlight a difference in I guess the 'depth' of what you're looking at. Sort of a difference in readings of, "The curtains are blue."Like yeah, while playing people will take note of things, the Airfield room with the big ass table is a conference or meeting room, as opposed to the vehicle bays on the side, or the maintenance bay with the entry to the tunnels below. People moving through for utilitarian purposes will note the functional purpose of those rooms for memorization's sake, as well as communication clarity. But very few people will actually go into those areas and look at them and think about their in-lore purpose, or if there's any little details, like what's on the bulletin board in the meeting room, or what the vehicles even look like or may have done.The details are important for both purposes, but the constant pressure the game puts on you really puts focus on the utilitarian aspect - I remember this room because the curtains are blue.
>>570744317>30 seconds of free thermalsthat only goes like 25m and I'm pretty sure highlights her head
>>570745606Very few people go through any game and give thought to that. Even in Dark Souls, for instance, probably one of the most overanalyzed games, most players actually aren't wondering what everything is. A lot of players are just beating the obstacles in their path and maybe thinking about some of the bigger ideas. Some people are curious and will look for those details or be more inclined to wonder and investigate them. Others don't give a shit. But the design is there and the opportunity to enjoy it isn't as limited as you're making it out to be. Considering how unique so many elements of the maps are it's really just super good at this. What's the point of that cool ass room with the water in Outpost near Flight Control? It's neat. Interested me the first time I walked in there. Same with the key room underground there in processing with its dramatic lighting. The game has tons of areas that are just immediately attention grabbing in presentation, which helps them feel distinct in your memory, and often have interesting details on further inspection. Yeah you might only remember the room because the curtains are blue but when a chest spawns next to a scribble on the wall you might notice that. When you have a fight and are looting a body in weird place maybe it's next to a mural. Maybe you sit and wait in a bathroom stall to try and hide. Shit happens that highlights areas to the point you can keep noticing interesting stuff naturally for a long while, even if it's only now and again.
Uninstalled until they put the battle pistol into the dirt where it belongs. Every single one of my deaths was someone running this fucking thing, the state of the game has been completely reshaped because of it.
>>570746392See you tomorrow.
>>570746392*every single one of my deaths today
>>570746392314 hours in and a pistol is what makes you quit kek
>>570740734wear a purple shield.
>>570746373We're getting into the weeds, but Dark Souls doesn't have time pressure. You have time and are encouraged to ponder and at pretty much any point are free to stop, look around, or read the item descriptions. The very ability to read lore and look at the environment at the same time is a real key difference in how likely someone is to actually want to engage in that way. Additionally, it's a PVE game with the smallest, most inconsequential smattering of lowercase pvp, while Marathon is a fuckin capital PVPVE game, the audience itself is fundamentally different and less likely to be the type to engage with the world in that manner. This is returning to when I said it was at odds with itself from a lore and gameplay perspective.I don't mean to invalidate your experience, as I also see the game in similar ways and know exactly what rooms you were talking about and have had similar thoughts, and spent time just poking around them, lookin at shit. But I think the number of people who will experience the game that way is fuckin slim. I wasn't kidding earlier when I said I treat the game like Apex when in trios - because every trio I play with runs it that way, and that's the effective way to play. I go slow when I'm alone, but the gameplay also doesn't fucking like solo players, have you done the Complex Warden solo? It's not impossible but it's totally unreasonable to think I'll get to do that and watch the experiment and look around.
>>570745557It feels like it's the entire game, anyone that played last season is already aware that the most valuable loot is going to be on people so killing them is prioritized over looting POIs. Bungie tried to change this with the cringe barter economy so now I have to kill gray kits, too, to take their leads and gunmetal. As for vent placement, if there are any obscure vents then they're not useful in combat because all of the meta combat is abusing slide cancels and movement, or bubble shields. But that's what I'm saying, there is no real incentive in this game to look at anything or notice anything. There's Youtuber bait for lorefags to take screencaps of, but they're not something you experience in-game, you don't stumble upon the pile of toys in Outpost dorms and stop and consider them you just know there's a vent, a window, and a door and a dividing wall. Everything else becomes abstraction by necessity because you have bots skating like armored cores or people full sprinting at you, or you're full sprinting and out the window because sitting in any POI is a deathtrap.
>>570747226Yeah, but even with all the time in the world a ton of people still just don't actually get into the over analytical shit. It's also a (broadly speaking I'm not looking to get into some pissing match about this) a difficult game itself which a lot of people have trouble with and do feel pressured by. But it isn't the same no, you can clear an area of enemies and feel safe unless you're online/human etc. I don't disagree on that at all, or that having limitless time would probably appeal to more people wanting to do this. It usually is at odds with people. But for me it works, it works so well. Even playing semi-sweaty with trios I still tend to find some time to enjoy things. Like I said before you often end up with some peace periods, whether it be the lobby's been cleared or half cleared or whatever. You do have some time on trios, but you really only get that time when you've gotten pretty good at the game. I don't do solo much anymore so no I haven't done Complex Warden solo. I definitely think the solo experience is largely awful. On the otherhand I think the healthiest thing for solos is for stuff like Complex Warden to require/heavily incentivizing teaming up with another player rather than the ideal being "pretty achievable solo." But this gets into a lot more structural design and just the whole solo experience being an ambush campfest of bullshit.
ok where the fuck is this? I just ran around Station unimpeded for 10 minutes and never found it. I found another terminal that gave me a disk to take to hauler but I'd killed a runner with nice stuff so I exfiled instead.
>>570748045It's in the shitty little car wash things near the exfil in Station
>>570747467But those little rooms like that do kinda stick out to people. The valuables reinforce a lot of it too. I don't know what more you really want them to do in that design exactly. It's really just all there and there's no way (in the framework of this game) to really encourage it anymore. It's there, you have to look at your surroundings to even know what's happening. I get details get obscured when you're really focused but that isn't 100% of the match 100% of the time you play, I don't know man. I think these elements work. I like not having the time to soak in everything but it being there and it being on me to get the option for it. I don't know man, I think just having to look around PoIs and figure out their layouts exposes you to plenty of the details. I think that's what most people who really have put time into it praise the game for, so saying it's just not something people can notice feels completely wrong. You don't get to the point of moving effortlessly through PoIs and actually doing shit in the game without some exploration of areas. It just happens and you absorb them.
>>570747939Yeah, the game is hard. I'm what I'd consider above average, but I only play solo or with two friends, one of which is... lacking, I guess to put it kindly. We have not killed Compiler the normal way, are missing a few vaults, there's still ground to cover. Out of curiosity, do you play with friends, or fill? Social pressures aside, I imagine I wouldn't feel the need to be quite so optimized if I was playing with assholes I didn't care about. I tend to spend all my time in trios shepherding rather than looking at stuff. Most of the thinking/learning I do in trios is more about the capabilities of my friends, like if they would be able to figure out how to follow me quickly on some weird path or if I need to let an opportunity go because I'd just put myself in a 1v3 while they try to puzzle out how to get up that building.I fuckin wish Solo had cooperation, the closest I've ever gotten is me letting people go or a mutual decision to fuck off if we spot each other through bullet proof glass. I want there to be some way to actually form a group in solo so that you actively disable the ability to backstab - even the existence of that would alter the social meta significantly.
It's a fucking bot.
>>570746547they're not actually quitting. they're just doing it for attention. this is the 2019837401928375 time they've quit actually.
>>570748865I ain't reading all that shit
>>570748045ground floor in the drone "bays" near where the station exfil usually spawns by the garage door that leads into the tunnels.
>>570748760I have a friend I play with a fair amount and another sometimes as trios, but honestly most of my time playing for a while was trio fill. Then I just added the people who were cool, even some of the people who failed to exfil. Now I hop on and I usually have someone to join or I do trio fill. I agree, Solo needs a better method of cooperation. I don't know a good answer because anything like treatying or official teaming is just gonna be used to bully the rest of the lobby most likely. But this game definitely needs encouragement to either team up or let people go on their way. Some of that's on players just being murderhappy but there's more design answers to this I'm sure.
make a campaign mode, put a mission or two on one of the maps, mission before final is cryo archive, explain all the shit players will never see in a match because it's an extrac...battle royale designed around ignoring anything but gunfights and exfils.buys time, gets somy exec's confidence back, start working on more maps guns and possible ways to incentivize new players getting their feet wet in the battle royale mode. all of this must happen before the end of the fiscal year, with some wiggle room if they manage to get snoy approval.other than that ded gayme, ded studio.
is there a list of terms somewhere? or am i missing some way to read the meaning of the blue terms?
>>570749954Hell, not even a campaign, just copy and paste FBC Firebreak
>>570749954One of the devs, on their person twitter account surprised by saying Carri Event is releasing early tomorrow and then took the tweet downI wonder how many events they might have waiting to pull leavers which honestly should already been doing
I like Marathon.
>>570752293unfortunately there isn't any kind of terminology dictionary, which is a shame cause when the game is saying specific words at times it can really mean them. Surronded usually means being in close proximity (10m~) to 2 or more hostiles (Runners or UESC bots).Rorschach is mostly used as a way for a WSTR to get more than 2 shots in the chamber for a potential PvP encounter; run into a pair of bots, unload at the ground, reload near them and then you have a 3 shot WSTR. It's a little bit too situational for other guns, but it's not the worst chip to have.
Truly Marathon is the Dark Souls of looter shooters
>>570744845>>570744394>PCjeets melting down over their consolearyan rulers once againlol
>>570749093>>570748510I got it, thanks.
>>570753664Dark souls was popular and got sequels. I'll be surprised if Marathon survives the next 6 months unless Bungie makes big changes to the game.
How do you play with random trios? Ping contracts close to spawn and go from there?
>>570756695Basically yeah. As soon as the round starts you just gotta pick a POI with a contract close by, ping it and start hoofing it. Cause of the nature of this game (stick together = don't die), people will usually be compelled to follow you. Using a mic is obviously the ideal but I know not everyone is as cooperative
>>570752293this is just those JOI slop videos but for runners
>>570756695Accept death and the futility of your existence. Accept that you are ALSO one of the friendless, useless sacks of shit ruining people's games with your incompetence. Pick a close POI you think you can win OR follow everyone else. Also, learning some basic phrases that other people in your timezone use is useful .Vamamos. Shnell. Teki. en haut
>>741186836not looking good for anyone. recent "report" (rumor as of now, but it's coming from places like forbes and bloomberg) marathon only sold 300,000 copies on console, confirmed total $50 million from release to now (possibly more after free week). these people have been correct in the past in regards to snoy things. shit looking REAL grim.
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