What's your estimate on the real concurrent player count? 200k? 100k?>INFORMATION & GUIDESWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:GameNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/LoreFor League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.ggPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/>ESPORTShttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esportshttps://datdota.comhttps://dota2.com/esportshttps://gosugamers.net/dota2Previous: >>569841421
i got hemorrhoids but not the gross outside ones.i got the cool inside ones. doc says i scroll too long on the toiletDota 2.
>>570430661fucking finally, why did it took you so long dotard?also first for Marciella!
>>570430779Haha, WE (entire human race) love to see StinkWink (shit hero everyone hates) getting punched in her shit like this.
maiden
I swear, if I don't find a match in the next 5 minutes then I'm gonna go play League.
>>570431684Play Dawn of War
sex with hoodwink
>>570431819NEVER heard of it
>>570431819are these games actually good
>>570434048>>570434215You missing out youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fk8TI6gpDchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YDJdummuzshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2krseJOG0Q
>>570431819post techpriest Floyd(forma de trans)
>>570430661
>10 minutes no game>turn off client>10 minutes no game>turn off clientFuck this gayass dead game man. It's really time for something else.
>>570435694I wish valve didn't have dota. I wish it had it's own company and developers.
>>570436182it could have been under blizzard that would have been way worse even if the game would have been updated way more often
>>570437321alternate timeline blizzard where they kept dota.they might've been able to sue to stop league of legends from releasing.
Why is xp scaling so niggericiously faggy? You can kill some dumb idiot 10 times in lane, it makes absolutely no difference. He's 10 levels above you even though he missed 200 creep waves, died 10 times and is doing absolutely nothing all game. Literally had a game of 4x enemy cores who all afk jungled and came out 6 levels above us even though they didn't have enough free space to farm and they were dying like rats.Why even bother harrassing? I can just afk jungle every game. Effort is not rewarded. What a dumbfuck game.
>>570439352Nah, the backstab from Guinsoo and Pendragon was what motivated Icefrog to solicit Blizzard and Valve in the first place so that it can keep going.
recent days have been good. Been following D2PP's rule of 3.
>>570439457
>puck is a pretty lady!
>>570440829forgot screen shotty.
>>570440921I find it a good idea to quit after two wins, too. The high of victory is bound to ruin decision making.
>>570439457The issue is probably more than when you have 5 retards BROOOOOOLING over a T1 or T2 tower they can't take for like 10 minutes, the exp from the lane creeps are split 5 ways and you get less than a jungle camp a minute.>Effort is not rewarded.But clearly it does. Those core players know how to play the game.
I know it's turbo, but I have to shame this axe, jungled the entire game, made one entire play the whole game, and was otherwise a brain dead retard. Won 4v5
Dota has been fun for after coming back 5 years of not playing. What’s some spicy gimmicks heroes to spam or le bin cheesy way to win just spite people? I’m talking about some iraq_clan meme builds
>>570445748>jungled all game>second highest gold in the gamedreadful
>>5704306611000k
Remember when Valve introduced the chat wheel with caster hype moments and the following months were basically casters screaming nonstop and trying way too hard, hoping their calls would make it into the Battle Pass chat wheel voice lines?
>>570447231sure, then they gave all ti talent 2 voiceline slots and the practice stopped
Seems like melee supports just aren't a sub 2k mmr thing. Clock and Treant are first pick/ban when I watch the streamers but at my bracket they're at 48% winrate apparently
>playing pos5>when my carry is in a good spot and free to farm rotate with gate or mid>always get a kill or open tower>carry gets mad and says that hes afk, holding us hostage until he finally wants to close out the gamefucking hate this shit
>>570458579oh okay i get it now
>>570430779>WITHOUT MARCIhttps://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/e/e5/Vo_abyssal_underlord_abys_move_13.mp3/revision/latest?cb=20201004190025
Buff Hoodwink
>>570454467if they lose their lane then they end up being melee creeps for the rest of the game
I'm 15-5 on my last 20 matches and on a 7 match win streak. Maybe I shouldn't play this weekend.
>started the year as a crusader 2>now archon 5 at 30% by spamming pos 3I feel I can still keep climbing which is good, but now Im afraid of playing any other pos and sucking big time.
Ok goys. this hero is fricking... OP!
unplayable game
how do i invoker?
>>570471790How does anyone reach this point? Is it that difficult to keep one's mouth shut?
Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you very much for your continued support!
>>570475539post bussy
>>570474529I mean at this point he's both voice and chat muted so he's just plain griefing his team
>>570474529when you reach this low you are stuck here unless you basically supportcuck for 500hours all while shutting the fuck up and playing like prime fygod or you will get reported no matter what you do
>1 last picks PL into axebaffling
>>570474520repick
hello chat my hobby is playing dota 2but I just lose and that puts me in a bad mood
1.5-2k is such a weird place to be. People know the game, they use smokes and dust and such but they don't really play the game, they are in their own head doing funny builds because they want to rizpol the whole lobby.I imagine this is what SEA is like at 4k
>>570479393What seems to be the problem officer?
the meepo smurf came it clutch
>>570479393how did it go?
>>570445748>afk jungle AxeClassic Axteezy play.
>>570485079honourable mentions to wk 3 and sniper pick into axe + void
give me two or three broken carries atm
>>570488716sf drow voidvoid with the bfury + aghs build obviously
>>570488716Depends on your skill bracket.WK and pl for everything sub 2k
>>570493483>wk
>>570488716Despite what that one Anon said last thread, Muerta is not one of them.
>>570454467They require a little team coordination to be effective. What use is a clock hookshot if none of his cores are prepared to follow it up?
whats the best forbidden tech of this patch?
>>570494996Whats it going to take for spectre to get picked in pro dota without just being given busted stats? I preferred her before the 7.40 rework, I think she was salvageable back then. but her current iteration just seems a confused mess design-wise which is doomed to pub purgatory
my offlane is undying with pos 4 cheni'm so fucked
>>570500493Like the wise d2g folks say you are the only consistent
>>570500247Pros are unironically always a few weeks behind pub meta because when they decide on strats, they take a look at what's working/the best at that point in time, and spend like 4-8 weeks grinding the same strat over and over again in scrims against other pros, even after a patch invalidates it or something. Also if the outdated strat still beats up other pros in scrims, those losers will also think the outdated strat is still good and they'll try to keep practicing it, etc. It's a domino effect. The only way they'll change gears is if they get BTFO hard while doing what they think is their best strat(s).They're also pussies who don't want to spend time practicing risky strats. And to be fair, a pub hero having a 60% winrate doesn't mean it'll win tournaments. Might be easily shut down by a real 5-stack, etc. so it's understandable they won't pick "obvious winners". Same reason nobody picks WK in tournaments even though he's always enjoyed a positive winrate in the past few years.To answer your question, it'll probably take a carry player who'll like playing Spectre and a team+coach who will back him up when he picks her. Maybe Yatoro since he's the one of the few willing to make crazy wacky carry picks in tournaments.
>team has 1 stunlmao. we tried though. we were pushing their mid tier 3 only 17 minutes in. but we couldn't break highground versus invoker + void.sad
also, wtf is this jakiro build?Why do I have less MMR than this retard?
>>570505587Pretty standard core jakiro build
>>570505587The real retard is the Aghs Silencer because he wants muh global DoT instead of a goddamn Refresher or even an Orchid or Wind Waker while playing against a Faceless Void. Bet he bought that shard after the Aghs too.
>>570498426I think that's true with Tusk and Clock but Treant is so much simple and is much easier to have impact with
>>570506583yeah, he was nonfactor pos 5 silencer.
>>570505587Jakiro was supposed to get Maelstrom and Bloodstone if he wanted to go right click.
After I take safelane enemy tower am I supposed to be rotating to help other lanes?I've been doing that, but then the enemy carry free farms and becomes a problem. But if I don't rotate, my safelaner is usually getting fucked.
>>570505587Maybe I'm a sweaty Immortal player. But, why does every low MMR Jakiro try to be a right clicker? Just play Dragon Knight if you want to be a big dragon that slaps on right clicks.
I think Primal Beast has the most cursed cosmetics out of every hero. Each set is a totally different color, makes 0 sense why this is allowed
>>570509617TWO heads means TWO right-clicks per right-click!!! SO MUCH DAMAGE!!!11!1
>>570505587why is no one bullying the shit out of you for being a literal crusader shitter in the big 26
>>570510334Why would we bully someone for their mmr? Only the thread bully would do that and he gets chased away every time someone reminds him about disperser giving movement speed.
>>570510334hes also gay, a furry, and a nonce. prob a troon in a few years.
>>570510334I'm crusader 2 but since I calibrated for the first time at herald 2 a year ago I'm content with my steady climbing :)
how many games before the new behavior score update?
>>570512021every 15 games
>>570511537Only 3 of those things are true.
>>570512021>15hours to get 200behavior score backno surprise the game is dead everywhere but russia and china
wheres the ti hype
>>570516823no rtz no hype
>>570516823battlepass dead = dota dead.sad, but true.
>>570516823the event isnt for weeks
>>570516823once EU closed qualifiers starts
the last international was nearly a year agowtf where is the time going, this is weird
>>570525914The first was 15 years ago
>>570526172How many TIs has that retard choked thus far?
>>570526172always bet against ame in TI grand finals he will always find a way to choke it away
>cast Repel on my carry>they pace around doing nothing for five seconds>they decide to go in as soon as it wears off>they get stunlocked and die>they start pinging the ability
I haven't bothered to learn any hero since arc warden. Any worth learning?
>waiting an hour for a match>on a saturday nightgame really is dead
>>570431084Zased and true
So for a couple weeks I played on my old account from 2012 when I was an annoying faggot in-game and lower rank so I can queue ranked with friends, it has 4k behavior score compared to my chad 12k main. I am happy to say and can confirm my assumption was true, u fags complaining about not being able to climb bh score and being "stuck" are just lying or are still obnoxious in game. I've been climbing bh score easily every conduct summary. Just set your chat wheel to actual useful phrases and include Dont Give Up, swap commends, very ez. Still gonna stick to the 12k account tho, can't play without my items and have decided playing with sub human red behavior scores is unethical
I love the 1-4 antimage on my team trying to be team captainlmao
>lina, lion, WR on enemy team>AM thinks he doesn't need BKB>loselmao. they got the biggest retards playing pos 1 now.
>drop 4k comm score>"okay, at least I can't lose anymore.">lose 100 comm scoreyou're telling me that using pings and chat wheel can lower your comm score? What retarded system is this?
Deerest of mine
what hero would win in an all hero dance off?
>>570538589Wind Ranger, no contest.
Finally got my QoP of pain level 2 arcana, :D.
>>570538256i would do horrible, unspeakable things to my fellow man just to spend an hour in her embrace
back muted again
worst hour of my life
If you talk in voice chat. Reported. Right away.Text in chat. Reported.Ping my abilities or items. ReportedPing my health or mana. ReportedYou say "Good game, well played!". Believe it or not, reported.
MMR assassination dodger here. The last time I touched Archon 1, Gaben sent me on a 13 loss streak.I had another three smurfs sent against me. Thankfully, Gaben also sent a smurf to help me. They, somehow, lost every lane and we won.>smurf takes Bristle mid versus LD>feeds 4 kills>I feed my smurf a 9 min. Battlefury>I have no idea how the two smurfs safe lane lost to two non-smurfs
Why are retards using pos1 post2, what does it mean? Are they trying to look smart?
>>5705421489 min bf? how is thaat even possible?
>>570543343He was a genuine smurf that ruins your game. His last hitting was on point. Getting him 4 kills helped.A lot of times, smurfs are just retards that go for dumb builds, or something. Just because they're on a new account, doesn't mean they were any good on their old one. This one was a climber.Dotabuff shows me he had 48 last hits at min. 8, 108 at 12. He went to the triangle, afterwards.
why is Esports Nations Cup even a thing didnt even know niggas in Sub-Saharan Africa played dota 2 they dont even really have a server
dead gaaaaaame
What game should I play if I want to find asian women to play with? Dota, Counter Strike, something else?
>>570555181valorant
>>570547379Apparently the only south african guy with a working liquipedia page played for SEA teams. I mean when you think about it, what active server would be closest for africans? I'm sure north africans can queue EUW but anything south of the sahara where can they even queue? Brazil?
would you be interested in a dota 1 5v5?
>>570557437no that game looks like shit it's borderline incomprehensible
I want to keep playing pos5 but I'm out of fucking role tokens FUCK
>>570475539Late reply but thanks for your videos, I'm a returning player and they've been pretty useful to me.
>>570538589pango
I'm owning with this hero he's too good
wake me up when visage's relevant again
>>570566441good morning, sir
feels good to be in the win queue
>>570569529wot ?
>>570537404you are now so fucking low that your teammates will report you just by virtue of losing the gamegl playing turbo for 150hours nonstop to gain it all back, if you only play ranked it will continuously drop, low behavior ghouls have the crab in the bucket mentality
>>570570245>crusader2>frenchXD
>$100Should I buy it?
>>570566441>be a visage enjoyer>pos 3 visage is not tanky enough to frontline and cannot fill the classic initiation role>pos 2 visage is either feast or famine. You either destroy every tier 1/2 tower before minute 30 or get stumped and scald poorly compared to other midlanersIts either get commended by the entire team or get reported by the entire team. Pos 4 seems to be the sweet spot where people dont expect anything from you but then you have less exp so slower bird timing.
>>570575104Slower bird and slower 3 target assumption.He really, really needs his facet baked into assumption.
what killed dota
>>570583756icefrog
>>570583756You know what
>>570584729Hoodwink nerfs
>>570583756no dramatic changes after more than 10yearsgames are still 45minutes minimum at low ranks, that's just way too much for anyone that isnt a smelly neet autistic thirdiesplitting the playerbase with their nigger chinese credit score instead of just straight up banning toxic faggotsonly game in the entire universe having a "punishment pool" making you do punishment games if your internet providers shits the bedplayerbase composed EXCLUSIVELY of brown thirdies are extremely antagonistic and you genuinely cannot learn the game today or youll get reported, my friend calibrated like guardian or crusader while being a complete total noob to mobas and got reported and went to lp because of it500hours minimum to understand whats going on in the game, no fucking normies will have the patience totldr game is too hard and hostile to new players, only players are the fucking irl subhuman ghouls with 15k hours playing since 2012
>>570556867Great question lol just might tune into those games to see how they play im not expecting much tho
>>570584729she did nothing
>>570585946>no dramatic changes after more than 10yearsthe map expansion was as large if not bigger than 7.00>games are still 45minutes minimum at low ranks, that's just way too much for anyone that isnt a smelly neet autistic thirdieit has always been this way>splitting the playerbase with their nigger chinese credit score instead of just straight up banning toxic faggotsgetting shadowpooled is a ban of sorts>only game in the entire universe having a "punishment pool" making you do punishment games if your internet providers shits the bedyou are allowed an abandon over a certain number of games, too many dishonest actors out there to allow people just to disconnect from a game unpunished>playerbase composed EXCLUSIVELY of brown thirdies are extremely antagonistic and you genuinely cannot learn the game today or youll get reported, my friend calibrated like guardian or crusader while being a complete total noob to mobas and got reported and went to lp because of ityou can play with people of your own choosing if you had anyone willing to queue with you lol>500hours minimum to understand whats going on in the game, no fucking normies will have the patience tothis game is long beyond the attention span of normies and its better that way>tldr game is too hard and hostile to new players, only players are the fucking irl subhuman ghouls with 15k hours playing since 2012which is a good thing
Need esports
>>570583756big maphoodwink
>>570585946>games are still 45minutes minimum at low ranks, that's just way too much for anyone that isnt a smelly neet autistic thirdieall of my games have been sub40 at crusader lately >>570570245
>>570595430>it has always been this wayyeah thats the problem, I can legitimally 15 dudes in my fl that stopped because the game consumes too much time
>>570583756
>>570571105honestly thought this was a picture of me. lmao
One, two, three, fourCounting every dayI've been stuck in here, can someone help me get away?
top number goes upbottom number goes downWTF is happening???
>>570603782see >>570573020
>>570583756they made the game impossible to learn for new players unless you can put in like 500 hours. its also pretty much impossible to 1v9 anymore.
>>570600463a game of cs isnt even 40minutes, and it's divided by rounds too, 40minutes of pure condensed autism is so 2010 coded, it's time to move on
>>570606012>everyone has attention span issues >so all media should stoop low to cater to themimagine being this much of a drooling retard
>>570606275enjoy your dead game then ivan
>>570606364if you dont play the game why are you here
>>570606882if your country is at war why are you posting?
>>570607016ouh youre seething))
Lmao niggas been saying dota is dead for almost a decade and it's still here
>>570607112>ouh
unc is big mad doomposting on a sunday night :joy: :joy: :wilted_rose: son im crine
i just want bubsy the bobcat in dota
he lost, but this build is still funny to me
Why does Lion's stun travels much faster than any other line stun and the spikes also spawns on the side so you can't ever really dodge it
becuase he is severely overbuffed just like shadow shaman.
People complain about the lions, linas, and shamans, despite the fact that they're made of paper>THEY HAVE TOO MUCH HP IN NU DOTAno they don't
I mean the fact that the spikes can spawn on the side of the actual line is flat out absurd
>take long break from ranked>queue again>am playing pos 4>have a tide hunter who has literally NO CLUE how to itemize, skill build, position, or do anything at all Not a bot but just doing everything wrongA completely afk carry SF with zero impactAnd then a mid that abandons at 20 minutesthis game is fucking dead
I've been playing support and honestly the pool of flat out OP support is just huge there's too many of themmeanwhile there's like 4 good carries and 2 good offlaners
you could comeback from games back in the day as sven with just a blink bkb while they were pusning high ground, now you cant anymore because all the supports have 50000 hp and 20 items. game is ruined bros
>>570615008By "good", I'm guessing you mean strong independent cores that don't need no support. Then, yeah, supports are like that by default, so of course, there would be many of them.
you're the only constant
Was it worth killing dota over deadlock?
>>570618967we will see i dont believe it is
Good times don't last forever, so I will enjoy them while they last. All those games on offlane except the last four which were midlane, I even got a couple of MVPs which I never do as a 3. It's weird how the games felt easier and less toxic than when I was in crusader, maybe it is just luck.
used to pop adderal and 1v9 games as tinker back in the day. blink hex eblade farm the whole map 1000cs a minute 30 kills
How do you counter Skywrath in lane? Besides the obvious "just pick Pugna".
>>570625623-1 base armour
>>570625623don't be afraid of him.
>>570625837Position 4 sky, not 5 or 2. His partner has actual presence, unlike my carry in need of babysitting.
>>570625623
>>570625623just hit himbuy regen
>>570626035Hmmm....
Another game with account boosters... valve rating players based on this and nothing being done, 12 years.
>>570625623just ward his jungle
Things are... rarely as they seem...
>>570614840Oh so u got that match also? It happened the same to me. They ARE bots then and valvesteam rigging the game.
my heroes i hardly touch (except for undying)
Guys, what is ur opinion on people using 1-3 heros getting high rank? they shouldnt be getting high rank if they cant use 80% of heros.Also -arso should be the norm for ranked games. Noobs absolutly hate this mode and i havent played it in like a decade, wonder why.
>>570627856Tom Brady didn't need to play every position to be the GOAT in Football. When you queue ranked. You're only goal in to win. And that's easier to do with a small hero pool.
>>570627856Hero spamming is generally better for your mmr, but I personally can't play the same hero repeatedly. I have 6k games but my most played is Necrophos with 298 games.
>>570627484This is an example of what im talking about... guys just role mid safe off and go "core" (hc) and this is how u rank up in an unfair way, because the system is unfair.There are people like this playing 1-3 heros and nothing else, ofc they get good at it but they should rank up if they cant master the game at all levels.This is the kind of shit going on in dota, 12 years of development.
>>570632087does a version of this image without the jpeg crust even exist
honestly if you're on my team and you pick bounty hunter, you're getting reported for griefingworthless fucking hero
>mason playing wyvern mid vs a puck>gets killed>mutes entire team and enemy team>starts raging and says he's bored
>>570627856No, the game is designed around a mixture of high complexity and high simplicity heroes. Invoker, Tinker, Techies, LD, Meepo, etc etc.
>>57057302012k BS get matched with lower BS all the time, and we don't lose BS.You lose BS because you are in a permanent cucky melty mode, from having too much sissy juice (estrogen) in your veins.>B-b-but!1We don't suffer from a permanent sissy faggot melty. Stop doing estrogen.
>>570636069are you implying I'm playing dota two in 2026 little brother?
>>570634636So you agree that abusing the system to rank up being a low skilled herospammer is better than a player with knowledge of the game and can use almost every hero to be forced into support hardsupport.No wonder why this game has become so bad...
eloping with mirana seems like a great thing until you realize u have to make room for marci in ur house as well
>>570626035I hate raindrop and fairy fire so fucking much
>>570636850Why would a princess elope with you
lmao those eu qualify brackets hopefully some big upsets can happen
>>570636685Stupid faggot ignored my football analogy.You don't need to know how to play every hero to be a good player.
>>570638220So u are the one who is helping the rip the game with ur faggotry of being a superstar high mmr and that all random games are killed like they we used to play in real dota instead of your absolute gay fabulous mmr players.i hope u get what u deserve.
>>570636850man face and u can see the shaved lines LMAO
>>570638578nigga, it's literally always been this way. Why do you think pros have signature heroes?
rune eaters/vp prodigy might be the teams that can pull off a upsetswho is team enjoy?
>>570643446No one's watching that shit lol
hey chuddies, is valve cooking anything for TI? crownfall was like 2 years ago at this pointI got some steambux, if valve doesn't cook anything I'll throw them at warthunder
>>570583756game has been in life support since the pandemic, all they did in the last 6 years was crownfall, think about itcoincidentally that's when they started shitting up deadlock, essentially dota was put in the bench so they could make deadlock and that's why I hate it so much and hope it failsand dota is not dead, it's dormant, it'll be dead the day they decide to work on the game again and if people don't get hyped/come back, then it's dead
>>570638220He's being retarded on purpose under the guise of bumping the thread. Waste of time engaging with him. Might as well talk to chatgpt.
>>570645774pretty crazy what they are doing with dota 2 starving it out when it still has plenty of juice still
>>570645774 (me)there's also the notion that dota is largely a finished game, after 6.87f (iirc) the game was already perfect and icefraud started adding a lot of shit, talents, neutral itens, that thing they removed last patch, innates, none of those things made the game better (debatable)maybe putting dota development on hold and making a new game was the better optionit's obvious that the game is already super complex and it's probably very difficulty for them to come up with new stuff to improve it, I don't fault them too much for working on deadlockthey still should work on fucking seasonal events or smth tho
6.88f was the last patch before 7.00 actually, I still remember watching this announcement live and how amazing it was, it was such a great timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDymLWfp_uA
