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fox status check?
Where does Koron rank on the shiki scale? She caused a lot of deaths and destruction but she doesn't seem like a truly bad person just an indoctrinated one.
Is it true that dragons act tough, but become docile in bed?
>>569828653Kazuya's other sister is also arguably a monster girl, and equally cute!(the artist might've been biased)
>>570466589She would be very low on the Shiki richter scale.She shows up, and you will not have to be worried about being dryfished, being used as some toy, or feel your hormones going out of control. She will ignore the populace, go kill the strongest being on the planet, and leave. You just have to pray the fight doesn't end up destroying the world, or the person she kills is not important enough for the world to get chaos'd.
>>570465792Ewwww stinky monster, go take a bath smelly
I'm honestly curious about Koron, she would definitely want to fight Chaos and Luka as they are now, however they're so strong they can defat her without killing her, does she still try to force them to kill her because in her mind defeat is only defeat if you are no longer breathing or would she yield and accept she lost and thus be subject to the winner decides what to do with the loser mentality of the game such as be killed, be enslaved, be violated?I can't help but wonder what TrTr has in mind for her as a party member let alone developing her character as an ally.
>>570469612Chaos route with Chaos is going to be interesting. Koron only starts to act because Angolmois, but big elf shouldn't be a issue the moment she messes with Iliasville. So will there be a collesseum scene at all? Or will Koron show up sometimes else?
>>570466362The elf, i would not even hesitate. That is the sexiest body type.
>>570469549>Anon was promptly raped for his postJustice was restored!
>>570439292>>570443183I did it once on my then P2 Alice playthrough, I still have that savefile, but I just started a new game for my Ilias playthrough, will that count as already done it?Otoh is there any need for an all male party? I do use Luka and his low HP build usually just oneshots everything on Very Hard anyway so far, so I'll probably be fine with him and 3 randos
>>570475620https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>570475881https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
Yahoooo! I'm gonna go wild!
Which girl gives Luka good ending in her game over scene?
>>570477796And killing everyone! Good girl.
>>570475596Normally yes. You don't have to worry about the collab.>Otoh is there any need for an all male party? I do use Luka and his low HP build usually just oneshots everything on Very Hard anyway so far, so I'll probably be fine with him and 3 randosNot really? Crisis Build by Third Route may stop being good in the Third Route.
>>570477796What is are the Chi Pa Pa items anyways? They make them sound like clones of her.
>>570481938Its just a refrence to a bit from the vn
>>570475596Though really, when you join them bad bitches, make sure to bring Pillate.This is, after all, valuable training!
>>570475596If you’re doing NG+ then you get all the benefits and never need to do it again. A fresh save will need to do it again. Even if you still get the jobs later on, it’s only in the final route, and the aw/mw routes were designed with you having them in mind. It also locks you out of giving Luka demonoid until then, and if you’re planning to focus specifically on Luka then you would want that for him. trtr did make the collab easier than it was at first at least. It’s also very much designed with you doing both routes on one save; some of the only content that is actually missable is the mithra castle weapons, as the weapons you get are different in each route and completely impossible to obtain in the final route (as they get replaced with gems), and plenty of those weapons are actually needed for late/end game recipes.
>>570481938Minor wind spirits, according to part three.They’re mostly for the joke but Ilias’s route clarified that they’re tiny elemental beings born in similar ways; I don’t think they get named directly, it’s just part of a conversation on how spirits work and are born and it just retroactively explains them because they’re all mini sylphs and were real the whole time.
>>570483846Now imagine Chi Peepee and Chi Poopoo.
>>570481627Off the top of my head the big tit mermaid pirate captain, spatsune, and girls like pochi who just let him go but luka keeps coming back like a zombie.
>>570481627a surprising number of them but the one everyone seems to point to as the best is the Sea Dragon.Ironically the harpies from harpy village are so benevolent in the singularity world, to the point you literally have zero reason to fight them under normal circumstances because they just wouldn’t attack people out of nowhere, that the only reason you ever fight any of them at all is when the entire village is literally going insane from solitary confinement during their attempts to quarantine what turned out to be a biological weapon specifically engineered by Ilias to make them go insane (which the Lilith trio accidentally infected all of them with), which results in none of them having ‘good’ game over scenes since they’re all wildly OOC from the mind virus and going completely insane unless you save them.Comparatively all their scenes in the original novel pretty much were good bad endings and that’s why all their pocket castle scenes are just those scenes, except now there’s not even anything bad, so it’s just good endings with Luka roleplaying as a victim after giving consent because that’s his fetish and they just play into it (which happens in the pocket castle a lot to be fair).Heck, even ‘kidnapping’ is like a form of roleplay between them and men in the singularity world now instead of actual kidnapping, its just the literal equivalent of them picking up a date with humans who are into it.note: this only applies to the ilian continent harpies. Like any other feral monster, the wild harpies on sentora can and will kidnap and rape you in the normal way. However, basically all of them are kind and marry you when they do this so it’s still good bad endings anyways.
>>570487995Harpy anon, you fucking, ugh never mind.
>>570487995...Remember that scene where the tiny harpy ask her sister why Luka is crying, and the big harpy say it's because it feel good?
Turky sex editionAlbum of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyfFriends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902uThe latest, turkey sex (surprised Harpy anon didn't comment on it last thread):https://files.catbox.moe/pecfg6.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zlgzph.png
>>570489376Please kill yourself.
>>570488764Was she wrong? Luka cries for everything.
>>570490630I mean, there's a difference between crying and ieeeeeeee but touche
>lucifina beat shiki>end monsters
>>570488685WhatI’m pretty sure the guy you’re thinking of only ever talkings about the narrative “good true ending” and the queen suffering anyway. All I got from him was the kidnapping turning into a joke because it did and let’s not pretend otherwise. I could see that on my own. I mostly posted that because I find the irony of how a group paradox pushes as one of the nicest in-universe all having brutal game overs because they’re canonically going insane at the time to be funny.Unless this was just about >>570488764 In which case >>570490630
>>570492740>lucifina beat shikiLucifina best girl?!?!?!
>>570492740>llias evil truewell well well
>>570494103No, that is AW Eden. She killed more Shikis than anyone else with a scoreboard of 3 Shikis. Lucifina killed only 1.5 Shikis.
>>570494553Most Castle Dialogues are about how she killed Hiruko with Longinus.And she fucking deserve it.
>>570494905Yes, but it's evened out by Eden feeling sad, and apologizing to Lilith. Getting mopey for killing a Shiki really hurts her standing as best girl.
>>570495204Imagine apologizing to a a Shiki.Imagine apologizing for the worst ones.
>>570495204>>570495530Sounds like even Eden understands Shikis are better.
>>570495724No, that's a shit take, kys.
>>570495812You will kneel just like she did.
>>570495204Jap devs really got to stop this crap I swear
>>570497280Which one? Lol
ShikiGODS please forgive our puny insolence
>>570497280TrTr really wanted to make the Seraph and Lilith Sisters best buddies at the end. Eden had to sacrifice her pride for it to happen. Notice how she apologized to Lilith about sticking her and her sister in the gut, but not Hiruko?
>>570497796It's in those moments that TrTr can make a really fun game, but he is shit at plot.
>>570497796Eden has pride? She was always a jealous third rate angel. Now she learned her place.
>>570497796And it always comes off as the most forced things ever, ITS OKAY TO HAVE CHARACTERS GENUINLY HATE EACH OTHER ESPECIALLY IF THEY"RE EVIL
uh oh another badwriting faggot episode
>>570497954Shiki are Mary Sues, so we can't have that.
I get the irony of it but I don’t like to think about the lose scenes with them in paradox, they make me sad.Also Reina’s scene is the only one I’ve seen in paradox and the only scene I remember from the original game is (unnamed) Harpy Girl. I probably saw Lucretia’s at some point but I don’t remember it beyond the pictures looking comfy. But even then I love the story in the original world where they manage to rebuild the harmony between their two villages and clean up all misunderstandings. I wouldn’t want to cut if off at the pass before they actually find long term hapiness and fix all underlying issues between both villages; they were grateful to Lula because now they don’t have to be isolated or be forced to kidnap people. I liked the Harpy Girl coming in to selflessly protect the boy from a chimera despite the risk to her own life, and being sincerely friendly off the clock, and training to surpass angels towards the end, stuff like that, that’s more what I remembered.Seeing harpies being happy just makes me happy. I’m just glad they got happy endings in both worlds.
GUIZEIT'S BAD WRITINGWHY? BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK?
>>570498120I mean there's legitimate greviances with the story, it's not perfect, anon. I overall quite like paradox but it has its issues and the Lillith sisters have never not been controversial
You samefagging all thread does not make it that controversial.
>>570498343Don't answer. Badwriting Anon is the ultimate evil. Any criticism to the story is always made up by Badwriting Anon.Any criticism to the story is invalid.Don't think.Praise.
>>570498541I mean I do get why people are annoyed with the badwriting guy given how badly he wanted people punished in his playthrough, but i'm not even asking for the lillith sisters to be like, put on a breaking wheel or something i'm just confused as to where trtr was really going with them and I feel like they take up way too much space for what their character concepts actually are
reminder it's always just 1 or 2 at most obvious schizos replying to each other endlessly about their shit takes and calling it "bad writing" or "controversial writing"
>>570498136The worst trend so far I've seen is always having the victim be the one to apologize or being forced to forgive the person who wronged them. Yesterday I was reading this doujin about rape monsters, they had an arc where a soldier was captured for over twenty years and forced to fight for their amusement against other slaves, they raped him, he had to see his subordinates die one by one over the years, the monsters constantly preached about strong good weak bad, then the protagonist visited the arena and saw the fight, He was winning and killing the monster and they both fell into the water, then the protagonist dove in and told him killing them would be wrong so he just escaped instead of finishing them. THEY THEY SPENT OVER A DOZEN CHAPTERS BEFORE SHOWING HOW HE WAS TORTURED FOR FUN AND RAPED, PISSED ON, EXPERIMENTED ON AND MOCKED SAYING THAT EVEN IF HE WON, THEY WERE NEVER GOING TO LET HIM GO I was mad as HELL
>>570498758Me too me too, but it's funny how one guy just mindbroke the thread into refusing criticism of any kind. Literally, any kind.You think something is bad? Badwriting anon. You think something is weird? Bad wrigin anon. You have something to say? Bad writing anon.>put on a breaking wheel or somethingThe breaking wheel must be made from unbreakable, stinky, real dry fishes for maximum fun!>>570499063Keep yourself calm by telling yourself it's a doujin, the plot is obviously gonna be weak. Just forget that some doujins really like lore and plot.Or that you see this sort of stuff in official manga, the victim having to apologize or being forced to forgive the person who wronged them, I mean.
>>570499365>>570498541You stick out like a sore thumb, retard.
I love my cute daughterwife Mini!
>>570492740What's the take home pay rate? Any benefits? Decent hours? I need to know a bit more before I send in my application.
>>570499795Obviously I stick out, I answered to two Anons who answered my posts... or am I doing something wrong?>>570499846Anon no, that's grooming!!
>>570497796He made her apologize because out of all those six characters, Eden is strangely the only one with a body count when comes to the war.Lilith Sisters, Shion, and Gnosis don't kill another named combatant from the other rival faction. Lilith only had Izanami of all people, who i think also was given an apology.
>>570500529Lilith Origin also killed an entire town.
>>570500610I was talking about the rival faction. Lilith doesnt have to apologize to anyone from the AW side to make any peace. Not like anyone else really cared though, only Eden seemed to want to bury the hatchet, while everyone gloats over the other.
>>570500973Yeah but I'm saying that in term of pure body count... well... Why apologizing to someone who is just a murderhoe?
>>570500196This.MGQ is a game all about monster girls grooming their own shota and why this is okay but at the same time, grooming a cute monstergirl is bad.
>>570500196If anon wants to be groomed by Mini, that's his prerogative.
>>570498181>>570499846I love harpies too.Though for me, it’s Queen Harpy.
>>570499063Killing them would make you JUST AS BAD ANON
>>570501736>>570501903I love you guys.
>>570499063May i have the source? I can use some rage fapping.
>>570500196Grooming is good. Imagine a monster girl that doesn't groom. That would be gross.
>>570505641But a human doing the same is gross!
>>570508337She's grooming this watermelon!
>want to modify the LoC enchants>too lazy to do itIs it how Modders feel like?Also, 90%MP/SP is no joke!
>>570510834>Is it how Modders feel like?That's half of it. The other half is getting way overinvested in some minor unimportant thing and throwing countless hours at it. Like, say, wanting to balance out the different monster types and before you notice you're adding new monster #42 out of the 167 to quell your OCD.
any tips to make her stronger? I'm AD route in mount horai on paradox atm (i forgor collab)
>>570515879There's not much you can do. Just focus on sword jobs and swing those sword attacks.
>>570515879As >>570517127 said. She's all about swording with a 30% chance of Blind and Silence.
>>570461431>screws up turning a human woman into a ridiculously over powered human woman who while constantly claiming she's no longer a slut, will always try to rape him the moment she gets him aloneWhich one was this?
>>570519292Sonya's mom.I don't get it either. Luka has strange priorities.
>>570519292Sonya's whore of a mom.The world's former traveling bicycle.
>>570489376Good commission.
>>570505641>”Harpies love looking their best!”>Reina is preening her feathers…..
>>570492740>breaking male works MinagiStraight from the PC.
She was a serial killer who bragged about killing people, and she professed and confessed to being a demon.
>>570524712Umm... sexo alert?!
Gonna start calling the anti-"badwriting"guy and anti-anti-"bad writing" guys Gina and Jaina, respectively.
>>570525000Good idea, let's add more cancer on the cancer.
>>570525823Super-cancers do have a tendency to kill their host cancer.
>>570527523I have nothing to say to that. GG.
I guess Luka can tell the difference between random generic enemies and the ones in his castle, but can the crossover characters tell the difference between, say, our seahorse marine and the others?
>>570530924Well obviously. Unless, are you suggesting that you can't tell the difference? Don't let the girls know, they might decide that you need correcting.
>>570532108All monsters look the same to me.
>>570530924Levia can't even tell the difference between the marines
Where's the damn update Threshold
>>570492740>Hiruko need route
>>570534418>.t
>>570534418That's racist.
>>570542375cute loli santa
Run
>>570550926nah
>>570550926Fox Slayer: ON.
I want Fem Luka with huge bazongas.
>>570559105is it weird that I think if Luka were turned into a girl for a little bit it still wouldn't stop his party from wanting to plap plap plap him into a twitching drooling mess? Several of them have the ability to grow a cock like thing too
>>570559105Man in femdom-focused game is so starved for maledom he has to cling to genderbent MC.
>>570550926I turn 360 degrees and run away.
your part is an imp, an edel and a human mage girl who for some reason practices martial arts as well, how far does your group get in the peaceful world before you get lewded? You start from grand noah, your goal is to make it all the way to remina to sight see
It's funny how there are no Chaos Booster.
>>570542375>saya no uta meets mgq>nothing changes
>>570569864I can trust my party, we make it far since they fight each other, but when we finally reach Remina is over as they work together and agree to get impregnated all at the same time
>>570569864>eden and alice sharing a party>getting anywhere
>>570569864bruh, with a party like that I'd be lewded before we leave grand noah
>>570572905Just cook Alice alive.
>>570569864When you say peaceful world, do you mean the VN world? Or the giant mess that is Paradox world?VN shouldn't be a issue since the Heaven invasion didn't tilt the world, and cause a mini Toba Catastrophe. Paradox world is going to be an absolute nightmare, with the landmass being utterly fucked, apoptosis still swarming around, and the new inhabitants from AW/MW thinking you are still holding on to that human=slave belief. Your party is the least of your worries here.
>>570559105Female Luka would add another three years of dev time to the game.>starts as random joke or bad end>trtr decides to add bluemage job that learns skills from loss scenes>gets sidetracked giving Luka 50 different monster forms with unique sprites, stats, traits and scenes
>>570576513Luka can already become a monster.Race change is canon, not just some gameplay mechanic. Even though it doesn't make a lick of sense.
>>570576513...I just want Female Luka with huge honkers...>trtr decides to add bluemage job that learns skills from loss scenesSorcery exists, but it would give an incentive to actually losing.>>570576875Everyone is CHAOS. I am Chaos. You are Chaos. He is Chaos. THEY ARE CHAOS.
>>570576513I'm trying to think of any new classes TrTr could potentially use, but kind of coming up empty. He already made a blue mage with sorcerer, and it doesn't look like he is going to add more monster skills to learn. Maybe geomancer? I think that Mog skill is one of the few things he didn't copy from Final Fantasy. Using attacks based on terrain is probably useless as shit now, but it's something that could be added.
>>570574434everybody's still gooning over Luka so unless I'm shota sized I think I'll be safe with my human, angel and monster companions
>>570577934Better Ruling skills, or at least, good Magic ones.Better Spellblades Abilities.Magic Science kind of fall off?Alchemy... Where is my Job*2, Alice?Piracy and Ninjutsu is a bit weak I guess.Ultra Super Duper Thief Skill that steal everything, guarantee drops, steals items/food/material/panties/milk/piss.>you can's steal pissShut.Chaos Skill Booster.Boomerang, Flails, Whips, kind of sucks. Boomerang is for Shielding though.Kirin and Snow Butterfly? In fact, also add a MW and AW version of them too.
Curious. Does that mean multiple Heroism Boosters and Crisis Stats on multiple gears doesn't stack? Or does it merely mean the stats in LoC are that high?
>>570579575Most weapon skills and race skills kind of suck, and lets not forget how utterly pointless those unique weapon arts are. TrTr might just do another balance overall for NG++ which could see the current meta get sent into the trash bin.
>>570577934I could think of a few examples, but good luck translating them over to this combat system. Just for example, Dragon's Dogma has a set of very distinctive spellblades. As well as a non-magical illusionist support class, a healer wielding a giant polearm or a tank punch wizard with a rythmn game attached.Likewise Path of Exile has a bunch of minion, totem and trap builds that would be utter hell to play in turn based combat.
>monster girls in a modern setting>brothels lost the competition to "rape delivery" apps>order a rape with a single click>rape will be delivered to your penis in less than an hour
>>570580362It's sad how Sword just mog every other weapons. You'll be hard pressed to find something as good as Sword of Heaven's Army's 4400%. There's an upgrade tied to Judgement and FoC that does 5200%!, meanwhile the strongest multi-hit is Chaotic Snow, Moon and Flowers (1020*3=3060) In fact lemme do something real quick.>and lets not forget how utterly pointless those unique weapon arts are.Eh, I want to kinda defend Zion's fist and Eden's gunlance, it's free damage after all.There is Logos Magia, that was equipment only, but then it became Luka/Chaos only, Luka being able to get it in Bnuy Form and Chaos by equipping AO.
>>570587151>fall through the cracks of the dystopia>63% of men have neved been raped in their entire life
>>570587151>order a futa hellhound rapist>set my location to an anon's house who talked shit about meI see what the new swatting is.
>>570593306>ehh, why do I see a futa delphinus apoptosis coming over to my house?
Best Weapon Skill Showcase! In this order, one hit, all, and multi hit.DaggerLast Breath1524% +100% to any ailments/stat down.Flourishing Lightning 1524%Progenitor's True Moon 384%*6=2304.SwordSword's of Heaven's Army 4400%Dragon's Recumbent Flash: 2540. Papa and Berry got Dimensional Severence, 3740%+30000000Chaotic Snow, Moon and Flowers 1020*3=3060RapierGalaxia EX 312%*6=1872Doomsday 528%*6 3168KatanaFlash of the End 1836%Progenitor Meteor Slash 1524%Dance of Carnage 324%*3=972/Endless Slash 168%*6=1008/Fourteenfold Slash 72+14=1008.SpearAshless Phoenix Spear 1524%Starbust Nova/Omega Centuri 1524%Heaven's Army War Spear 480%*5=2400AxeCosmo Legacy 3060%Destruction Incarnate 2540%Six Kings Rebellion Axe 360*6=2160ClubCorpse Anihilation Demon Strike 3060%Cosmo Crisis 2540%Yomi Destruction Journey to Izumo 520%*6 3120ScytheReaper Scythe 3740%The End of Everything 4400%Endless Scythe 780%*4=3120BowExtinction Arrow 1524%Great King of Terror 1836%The Honored One 528%*6=3168WhipDark Spiral Whip 564%Goddess' Apocalyptic Whip 396%*5=1980Green Empress Whip 384%*6=2304ThrowingComet Fall 960%Demonic Meteor Storm 1836%Shield Empire 640%*4=2560FlailDestructive Strike 940%Eden's Heaven 3060%Five Star Destruction Sphere 320%*5=1600FanOuter God's Fan 1836%Phoenix Ray 1836% +100% to Agi Down.Nine Star Dark Fan 252%*9=2268GunSupreme Freigukel 5600%Ricochet Barrage 2540%Megiddo Lagoon 340%*9= 3060/Megiddo Blood 520%*6= 3120MultiweaponMaximum Run Time 4600%Calamitous Annihilation 4600%Hachiren Tsubame Gaeshi 140%*8=1120/Pinaka 360%*3=1440 (Pinaka is Foe but..)UnarmedAncient Succubus Way Void Pleasure 4600%Atomic Impact 1836%, Minagi and Alma has Fist of Creation which does 4400%+30000000Megiddo Harlot 780%*4=3120AND there's Ultra Force Strike, Single-hit Skills inflict 100% more damage, and Ultra Heat Up Combo, Multi Hit skills inflict 30% more damage with each successive hit. But I ain't touching that.
>>570519514You could make an eroge out of her adventures
>>570577934Geomancy is always one of those things that's consistently shit from how situational it is, but hilariously it might be okay in Paradox because the LoC boss fights are in the chaos zone which would probably make it an overpowered chaos move.>>570579575Spellblade needs skills that multiple spellblade effects. Spellblade Rainbow/Chaos would be massive with the elemental composition meta>>570588852>Sword of Heaven's ArmyThere's Eight Creation Lord's Sword which uses every base element+carnage and has +100% damage against defense down enemies. The only downside is that being locked to Elves you don't see Micaela/Granberia/Novissa using it and only really has the niche of existing after racemaxxing and making Final Beelze into the highest dps character
>>570596393>Spellblade needs skills that multiple spellblade effects. Spellblade Rainbow/Chaos would be massive with the elemental composition metaSpellblade that does multiple Spellblade effects, ending with Abilities that make every Spellblades into one, or abilities that make you cast them at the start of the fight.I'm frankly shocked that Trtr didn't do that, and just did a Random Spellblade ability + weak casting spell.
>>570596393>Eight Creation Lord's SwordThat does 640*4 Random Foes=2560 (+100% against foes with Stat Down.)Sword's of Heaven's Army is 4400% and ignore defense.
>>570598678You need to consider Sword Combo +3 and Ignore Defense. Maybe even Max Voltage a singing buff that adds +4Also this is massive as skills with multiple chaos elements take multiple boosters so Sword of Heaven's Army takes both Eternal+Carnage and their base elements, Eight Creation Lord's Sword takes in every base element booster and carnage booster for 10 different multipliers. Pretty much every skill becomes a question of how many boosters it can have rather than the flat stat multiplier.
>>570595948>End of EverythingDidn't realize Scythes had such a hard hitting skill. I never see anyone talking about them.
>>570601641It's a post game skill, since you need to race change into Chaos for it. There really isn't anything worth using it against by this time. That and there is very few endgame characters with a chain with it. Only Sariela gets it as far as I remember, while characters you would think would get it, i.e. Reaper and Nero, don't.
>>570599951That's true. But I'm not THAT autistic as to count +30% for each hits, and then each X Combo +, and Max Voltage. I forgot how. List there >>570595948It's also why I sometime put multiple skills, like katana's Dance of Carnage 324%*3=972/Endless Slash 168%*6=1008/Fourteenfold Slash 72+14=1008, since it's obvious Ultra Heat Up Combo and Max Voltage will bring the damage up quite a lot.But credit where it's due, you will be hard pressed to find one foe who is immune to all normal element plus Carnage. Until they become Chaosized with All Element Chaosized, but that's a bit...>>570601641This is because of Swords. Swords are the cause. It's all Swords' fault.I'm partially kidding, in Part 2 they were more like gimmicky and surprisingly lethal, but end Part 2 fun stuff, so you had more effective things to use. It ended up being the same by Part 3's third route: You start with a team of monsters that can carry you through all the rest of the game.But to be fair, The End of Everything is learned on Archifiend of Chaos race job level 13, which is very very, very late.
>>570601641It's a forbidden archfiend skill so you can't use it on characters that want it like Sariela or Reaper until it's too late.
The angels have only interpreted the penis, in various ways. The point, however, is to rape it.Theory alone is not enough; the goal of understanding rape is to actively improve and revolutionize it.
>>570610642We're still trying to figure out what this post means.
>>570579575I'd like Holy, Dark, Pleasure and Physical versions of the Spirits. At least Holy and Dark. With effects obviously.Why does Ex-Tuple Giga has Holy Eternal Dark Demise?
>>570615084You do, kind of.You can summon Goddess= Light Spirit, and Demon=Dark Spirit as an attack skill. If TrTr does create a Star Eater summon, who could be the Galactic Elemental Spirit as some theorize, that would be another one.
>>570610642Whatever penis that exists without my knowledge, exists without my consent
>>570615926>You can summon Goddess= Light Spirit, and Demon=Dark SpiritBut I'm talking with effects, stat boost, element. And Judgement can already summon Ilias as a Special, like normal summon.Fun fact, male characters can't summon Fiend.>If TrTr does create a Star Eater summon, who could be the Galactic Elemental Spirit as some theorize, that would be another one.I was going to say something stupid: But Star Eater is a future playable character!... Completely forgetting that the Spirits are in fact, playable characters.It's sad that Kirin and Korikicho aren't playable characters.It does beg the question, what would be the effects? And there's Bio and Sonic.
>>570617463>Fun fact, male characters can't summon Fiend.Seems like a oversight. But that is quite a gigantic oversight, since we are talking about almost 20 characters unable to use a skill.>It's sad that Kirin and Korikicho aren't playable characters.Both of them not having boobs and a vagina just comes off as really weird. Are these two by chance RPGmaker assets like some of the other summons, i.e. red dragon? Or are they in that category like Lily and Lucia's demon summons that also look really out of place, but still original creations?
"Glitch" detected. I've been using Quadruple Giga with Moonless Dance (No SP/MP cost) and here what is happening when I auto it.>Luka chain Quad Spirit Summon > Quadruple Giga, uses his second turn to Quad Spirit Summon > Quadruple Giga again.>only the first Quadruple Giga is there>the second Quad Spirit Summon is there too>somehow, the spirit buffs doesn't happen>the second Quadruple doesn't happen either.It's already a big hit that you can't chain Quad Spirit Summon to Quadruple immediatly, but this is just weird.
>>570618026The red dragon isn't even a default asset. They just had Delphinus draw a normal-ass dragon, for some reason.
>>570618627I would have said that there was a communication break down, but he did draw a bunch of other summons that are traditional monster girls, probably his most vanilla designs funny enough too.Really wish more of Un-Do's summon designs showed up as recruits, there a plenty of cuties there that are just wasted on low tier summon spells.
>>570618026>Seems like a oversight. But that is quite a gigantic oversight, since we are talking about almost 20 characters unable to use a skill.Male characters can't have Pleasure/Nightmare attacks. Or something. Ignore the fact that Fiend inflict Galactic damage too. Or that Whip skills are a thing. Or that Sorcery are a thing. Or that Aztec Rose is a thing. Or that Dimensional Erosion Breath is a thing. Or that Collab Characters have access to Pleasure skills. Or that the three Special Pleasure skills are a thing.Forget that a lot of things are there!>Both of them not having boobs and a vagina just comes off as really weirdHey now, Marcellus got to stay focused! He's a serious guy with a serious mission for the sake of the world, his friends, his (fake) wife and his son! Who is also his ancestor, and grandfather by marriage! And possibly his own step-father by mariage too!>red dragon? Or are they in that category like Lily and Lucia's demon summonsRed Dragon, pic related right? Speaking off... what are those things?
>>570619608This dragon is the most often praised art that Delphinus made for the games.
>>570620152Why?
>>570619608TrTr seems to want to dial things back, and not have everything non-human have a vagina. Which is kind of funny, if Delphinus did do the traditional MG designs for all his summon designs, we would have gotten a Red Dragon Girl, a Pegasus Girl, a Chinese Dragon Girl(Before Part 3), a Wraith Girl, and Bahamut Girl. Instead we got things that wouldn't be that out of place in a D&D or typical JRPG game.
Delphinus girls did nothing wrong
>>570620252How strange.
>>570620461We could have also gotten a big Phoenix Girl too, as an adult counterpart to Mini. It's funny to have Mini summon a mythologically accurate phoenix because it just comes off a funny.
>>570620727We do have the Spirits being able to Summon themselves!
>>570620252>>570620461>>570620727>Girl summonsThis is one of those things i really didn't like for the high tier spells in newer disgaea games, we went from refrences to makai kingdom and cool monsters to evert tera and peta spell just being a different flavor of girl with no cool monsters. I would have liked there to be a bit of balance between girls and cool monster summons that actually look strong
>>570620727>a big Phoenix Girl tooBut we already got a phoenix girl with two big forms and they're all perfect.
>>570625861It would have happened as far back as Part 1 though. We needed to wait until the finale of Part 3 for big bird Mini, and her soon to be surrogate mother DP.
>>570625121So that's why they are girls now!>>570625861Her being a Summon would have make for an amazing foreshadowing and bait and switch.>"Oh so that mean Mini will be bigger one day!">"Oh I get it! There was a time skip so it mean everyone grew up!">"I can't wait to see Mini!">DEATHGAZED
>>570626839Anon, it would have been drawn by Delphinus.You think he could make something comparable to Jingai's big bird Mini?
>>570627149Appreciate the DEATHGAZEing.
>>570620198I've seen anons post it a couple times at least when talking about Delphinus and praising it, used as evidence he can make good art when it isn't sexual.
>>570630451Seeing is other summon designs, I now fully think his weird anorexic look is his fetish. It's hard to believe he isn't doing it intentionally, not because he lacks talent in drawing regular looking women.
>>570630451I would have liked to see it in game honestly, but I guess it wouldn't have been Monster Girl Quest.
Delphinus would be alright if his girls weren't melting and their hair wasn't noodles
>>570632318When he draws something that isn't in his derpy chibi style, he tends to draw the girls thin with modest proportions but they don't look anorexic. If you compare his drawings on Pixiv or twitter to his MGQ characters, the lines are less smooth and the colors are flatter or less saturated, it can even look sketchy at times but it makes his art more appealing. In MGQ, they look more professional yet the cleaner look and the colors make even the characters that aren't monstrous look dead or suffering from down's.It's hard to tell what Delphinus' interests are other than monster girls because most of his drawings are monster girls and yuri because he's sometimes drawn it. The stuff he makes on his own is rarely sexual and he draws even the abominations being wholesome more.
>>570635661>he just likes monster girls because he thinks they’re neat>even draws them comfy and at peace when he can>even the nightmare beingsHe’s just like me
Are the two options over on suke still the best for getting MSQ + paradox? Or is there a better option?
Interesting, it seems there is a sharp drop in damage after the first Ex-Tuple Zeta. The first hit was pic related, but the other hits were around 1.935D. There was a pont where the number was Sex, but I didn't pay attention if it was sextillion or sexdecillion. At one point, it was U, which is obviously undecillion.The path to autism number.
>>570647491>Divine Hero King>Famed Demon Protagonist>The Embodiment Of Reality>birbI love this gameShe’s still going strong
How do i get better at drawing?(im the guy behind that uh reina with glasses picture that harpy anon posts sometimes)I want to draw my wife Saya but good ya know.
>>570657468Start by drawing lines, all kinds of lines(there are tutorials on this), then start drawing shapes, all kinds of shapes. Then you can move on to more complicated stuff.
>>570657468just b urself
>>570657468be confident
>>570657468Have fun with it in order to be consistent and not lose interest
>>570657468jerk off while at it
>>570657468get yourself a cute monster gf and ask her to pose for your refs
>>570668863Cant dont got meatvision.
>>570657468>Draw everyday.Better a drawing every day than 20 in one day and then nothing. Whether a complex drawing or a small doodle in the corner of the page, what matters is you do something to make it an habit.Keep every drawing you make. You won't notice your improvement immediately, but if you look back after some time and compare, you'll be surprised how much better you've become.>Use references.Photos or drawings are fine, but try to start with nude photos to understand anatomy better, for example if you want to draw Saya, there are many asian models who are skinny with no tits. They don't have to be perfect copies. Say if you're drawing Eden, don't be discouraged because you made her hair slightly longer or shorter. You're not a printing press.Then when you feel confident you can download Designdoll, which lets you create and customize the proportions of models to pose like those wooden figures. Eventually you'll be able to start making the basic shapes using anything as reference.>Don't compete with other artistsInspiration is good, but if every drawing you make you keep thinking about how you'll never be as good as UN_DO, you're setting up yourself for failure. Also know there's people out there who'd look at your drawings and wish they were as good as you.>Challenge yourselfIt might look scary to draw something or you might refuse to thinking you're not ready yet, but don't be afraid to do something badly at first. Just think that the opposite is much worse, because if you do only the same thing with the same pose every day, you'll get good at drawing specifically that, and then you're turning it into a mechanical process and it'll stunt your growth.>Keep it funDon't force yourself to draw a subject you know you don't want to. You don't have to draw scat or Shinifa or yaoi for the sake of improving your art as a whole. Just put on your favorite music or a podcast or some Vtuber's VOD that doesn't need much attention from your eyes and draw.
I am playing paradox for the first time, is hild absurd aoe damage ever gonna fall off like promenstein did or should I just increase the difficulty? Because so far she has been raping the entire game in 2 turns max and it seems like her damage progression ramps up faster than the enemy hp increases
>>570669856thanks AI
>>570669856I've already done all of this shit. Minus models i hate looking at real people.
Well, if Angel Pussy is literally a piece of Heaven, then why is the pleasure so... hellish?How does Ilias Church explain this contradiction?
>>570538052I thought to myself oh shit I forgot to check when I got home today, but oh well I missed nothingthis fucking update better be good
>>570677125the dose makes the poison
Did they fix the Paradox difficulty balance in Part 3? I played the whole game on Paradox before part 3 was released, and it made a lot of stats useless, like HP and defense, and every mob encounter was just stunlocking the enemy. Also, the fact that you didn't get XP for downed characters made the start of the game very annoying on Paradox setting since before having CC, almost every time someone from the party would get downed and miss XP. I am asking because I have to start from the beginning since I deleted my 200h+ save when updating to part , because I forgot that games outside Steam don't have cloud saves
>>570648874Through Heaven and Earth, she is The Meta Harpy Best Girl.
No Headpats, No Hugs, No Marriage, No Impregnation, No Rape, No Lovey-Dovey sex.
>>570688653Anal
>>570688653
>>570688653We'll just practice
>>570688804Don't you have stuff you should be doing, Yao?
>>570689063*slaps you*
Yes Headpats, Yes Hugs, Yes Marriage, Yes Impregnation, Yes Rape, Yes Lovey-Dovey sex.No Anal.
>>570689274You had me until the end there.
>>570657468>How do i get better at drawing?You have to practice like actually practice. and focus on your goal first instead of getting pulled in a bunch of directions like learning environments when you want to learn how to draw animals and people. learning something like that is a bridge you have to cross when you get there.You don't have to draw EVERYDAY but to draw consistently and everytime to you draw treat it as practice. Like if you're drawing an arm on a piece you're doing and having trouble, refer back the reference or whatever tutorial you used to learn the arm anatomy and try to breakdown and apply your knowledge to what you're doing right nowDon't get caught up in " oh I'll never be as good as X person" Always try to view seeing other artist that you like work as a goal/challenge more that something you'll never achieve. Lack of confidence absolutely tanks your improvement.Also this is a big one that I don't think a lot of people talk about but you need friends and a community to help and support you and draw along side you. Because while art is a personal thing, art is also a form of communication and what's the point of talking to only hear yourself speak? Having an art friend or someone to share your art with really keeps you on track and is a huge source of motivation.Oh Also you should go to the /ic/ sticky or book threads for neat books and recourses.(DO NOT INTERACT WITH THE BOARD UNLESS YOU REALLY HAVE TO)That's all I can think of off the top of head lol.
Sex with Tamamo Ball She stays a ball the entire time.
>>570692050Sad that Xelvy's favorite OC finally gets added to MGQ, and he couldnt finish her hentai scene.
Kicking tamamo ball.
I never really liked Xelvy myself, he was... weird. With weird, same expressions.Kind of like Shiki, but he isn't as bad as Shiki.
>>570692297it's simple, really>stick dick into fluff>feels really good>balls are now 100g lighter>tamamo ball asks you for names of future children
>>570692297>>570693185Amateurs.
wow, paradox Illias really feels fleshed out, and cute. I heard Alice got the short end but I guess she already starred amazingly in the original VN...
>>570692649They are the opposite spectrum of hentai art. Xelvy is super detailed, and goes for some really extreme fetishes, a lot of them gross. Shiki is super clean, and his fetish is pretty standard, just dryfishing that doesnt go anywhere as disgusting as some scenes we see in MGQ.
>>570693497The problem is that VNAlice and ParadoxAlice are two different characters.Paradox Alice isn't the Monster Lord, she doesn't have authority, she's just standing there being a cold bitch with food jokes. And eventually, she get wanked to high heaven as if she was the best thing since sliced bread, or did anything worthy of attention, when the only thing she did was teaching Luka's skills.Which, to be fair, Bloody Fissure Thunder Thrust is peak.
I'm actually disappointed we didn't get more Camp scenes to learn skills.DAD FUCKING TEACH ME YOUR SKILL YOU PIECE OF SHIT I'M YOUR SON FUCK!
>>570692527And you know her scenes would be lewd as fuck, too. UN-DO just didn't do her justice. I guess Misstauros will eternally remain his magnum opus.
Alice had the VN, let her greatest moment be her last.Replace Alice with Spider Princess.
>>570693948I just started succ prison and I have to say I kind of like how ruthless he made the 3 succs. It actually makes the whole game feel tense and makes getting caught kind of scary. Also the wet slimy detailed look of xelvy is what makes him great. it looks so gross but also so hot.
>>570693948There's a reason why I talked about the expression being the same and weird? I really can't stomach the style.>just dryfishing...That's still gross you know?
>>570694928>succ prisoni want to cum inside vinum.
o there's a new monster girl tactics game on nextfest
>>570694928>I just started succ prisonMy condolences.
>>570695090His depiction of dryfishing is tame, and pretty boring. You take a look at Singularity's hentai scene, and you can see how truly horrifying dryfishing can be drawn.Shiki is kind of a poser. That artist who created Bloody Dragon would show him a thing or two about drawing dryfishing scenes.
>>570695721That's true, that's very true. But what I want to say is... I find both styles ugly, and samey..>Shiki is kind of a poserHeh.>Bloody Dragon*shudders* She look so cool too and yet...
>>570694928It was likely all written by toki, though like MGQ you could argue how much characterization for the characters each artist did. Coincidence or not, Myusca is very much the type that Shiki would write on his own. Deadly but carefree, immature, and a little dumb. In a way she's the nicest of the trio because she's the most earnest.
>>570697046In a way.
>>570697046Is Nemea the most serious of the three? I feel like she'll just kill you in most encounters.
>>570700951The most gentle pampering succ*Also a pedo
>>570702837And a murderer.And still bad.
>>570702967You mean executioner of burglars and other criminal scum.
>>570538052>patreon You only have yourself to blame.
>>570703115Brother I...
>>570703818I'm not your brother, pal.
>>570704156I'm not your pal, dude!
>>570704241I'm not your dude, sis
>>570704340I'm not a sis, cousin.
>>570704408I'm not your cousin, ◼◼◼
>>570704608I'm not your ◼◼◼, ◼◼◼◼◼.I'll stop before the police hit my fingers, better make the last one good!
>>570702837>a pedoI haven't made it far enough. Wym?
>>570700951Vinum obviously seems the most serious because she spends all her time reading and conducting her experiment while Myusca and Nemea spend their day having fun and eating.>I feel like she'll just kill you in most encountersThey all do if you don't give them a good enough excuse. By that metric Vinum is still the most serious because she has a scene where she gets pissed and dryfishes you without saying a single word.The one thing she has above Vinum is that she acts the most like a normal succubus. She's nice on the outside, seductive, makes you want to submit to give yourself willingly, and even has a dream-related scene.>>570704864Nemea likes young boys. You can get a bib that turns you into a kid, the others turn you back to normal, but Nemea is happy to see you turned into a kid and gives you a unique scene where she even lets you call her mommy or onee-chan and in the collab she's more interested on Hakunen than Kazuya (Kazuya is in his twenties and Hakunen in his early teens).
>>570705593Nemea also has special dialogues in the MW's succubus town for... reasons.
A tragic story where a man falls in love with medusa and eventually can't take it and looks into her eyes. He gets petrified and dies.
>>570707562It's alright. No one can stay rock hard forever after all.
>>570705593>she acts the most like a normal succubus. She's nice on the outside, seductive, makes you want to submit to give yourself willinglyI guess this is what I mean by serious. she's playing her role perfectly. With the other two it's easy to gage how much danger you're in but with Nemea feels like there's no good excuse because she's such a succubus.
>>570705593>She's nice on the outside, seductive, makes you want to submit to give yourself willinglyThis is something i've always disliked about when people make succs super ultra powerful. Their whole thing is that theyr'e so good at what they do you fall for them and they dont even have to lift a finger. The lillith sisters or alma taking what they want by force is cringe and just makes them feel like any other monster girl. No succubus should ever rely on mind control, they should have to do it the old fashioned way
>>570709597To be fair that’s the entire point in Alma’s case, she is violent, she does simply prefer martial arts and fighting to seduction, and this is why her mother and others always regarded her as “a failure of a succubus”.
>>570710787Which is strange, because not only is Alma good at deduction, she is also not that violent. No less than a lot of succubus. (Even discounting the MW ones.)
>>570710787That would be all well and good if succs in general were known to be especially seductive but they kind of arent? Most of them just rape people or mind control people just as normal
>>570657468Like other anons said, time. Drawing is something that just needs a while to build muscle memories and hand-eye-coordination. You can speed things up by learning anatomy. A little bit of physics also helps with materials and lighting.Build/find a set of references for poses, materials, styles, etc. Especially for monster girls it's good to have a reference for the animal bits. Most people can't tell a cartoon cat paw from a cartoon dog paw, but it makes up the "vibe" and helps a lot with larger rosters.If you want to draw digital, put down ~$200 for a simple drawing tablet. You don't need one with a screen - your hands adjust after two weeks or so - but you do want to get one with decent drawing area. When it doubt, get one size bigger. Extra buttons for shift, ctrl+z and so on are also nice to have.>>570669856>Keep every drawing you makeThis too. I maintain a progress pic for my stuff that has ~2 years of progress(some of the monster girls I posted here way back when), day-to-day you won't notice any change, but when you look back at old art you'll see what that time got you. You'll need the motivation to get through slumps.
>>570697046I'd agrue vinum is the "nicest" in the fact that she doesn't play with her food as much as mysuca and nemea do. She largely spares you the whole"tehee i'm just a carefree succ heart emoji" thing and just gets right into the dryfishing
>>570603163How do you calculate % anyways?
>>570714361>This too. I maintain a progress pic for my stuff that has ~2 years of progress(some of the monster girls I posted here way back whenpost?
>Lamia A casts [Charm] on mggg!Uh-oh, roll 1d20, Anons.
>>570693185My orb wife...
>>570723385I say no way, fag.Rolled = 20!
>>570723385
>>570720259Alternatively, name three monster girl species, chances are I've got one of those.You can't really tell at this resolution, just trust me that the shading got way better in 2026 and the eyes aren't soulless voids anymore. And note the giant month long breaks. It's where life got in the way, but even then your skill will improve if you just keep going on. Takes about a weekend per portrait, but the flat color 2025 stuff was as little as two hours. If you're learning how to draw get some audio books.>>570723385I have +30 AC versus snakes due to my intense hatred of them from dozens of failed attempts at making a good looking tail when the portrait cuts off at the hips.
>>570723385Sorry i'm not even in the room i ran ahead in the dungeon and fell for the boobytrapped mimic girl chest
The birds are watching me. They're after me. He-
>alarune is a literal honey potSigns of kino
>>570731993
Promestein Enhanced Magic Algae and Promestein Union are the only characters with Luka/Runaway Luka/FoC Luka to have the famous +2% Damage per HP missing.Except it apply to Magic Science/Medicine => Plant/Giant, (Enhanced Magic Algae) and Magic Science/Medicine => Gun => Makima => Artificial. (Union).That's a lot of +2%. Everyone else merely has a 1% or 1.5%.For the good of science, FoC Luka must breed Promestein Union.
>>570732171Dear god. Illias is irish.
>>570732254Why is my name suddenly marcellus
>>570732171The malicious brain behind Project Potato.
>>570732254The issue is outside of Artifical, the other abilities have subpar damage skills.
>>570732482Stay where you are, an angel has to check up on you real quick.
>>570733053Medical Extinction and Anti-Life Virus aren't that bad, they are average. Same as Gun and Magic ScienceArtificial is definitely great.I dunno what you are talking about for Makina, God-Slayer Chainsaw and Dimensional Collapse Launcher are also great.But adding a +2% Crisis booster? For all those skills? This is big. I don't think this is gonna beat Mr Luka "Lemme put Heroism Booster on top of Crisis Heroism Booster ON TOP of Heroism natural Crisis Booster" Hein.
>>570731993>>570732171
>>570734691That's such a stupid thing to say. Worlds are just potatoes!
>>570727002Cool I just wanted to see art. I'll be surprised if you never drew art for this place
>>570732254Granberia also has 2% sword crisis. Though despite this she isn't the best sword user because Novissa has +50% Attack and +1 skill activations and Final Beelzebub has +2 sword multihits
>>570735918>I'll be surprised if you never drew art for this placeIf you mean MGQ stuff, I've never even played it(except the very beginning of the VN when I was a child). Only started doing monster girls so that my game dev stuff be something other than a worse version of generic fantasy RPGs. I've found various reasons to stick with it, but really couldn't care less about any of the porn elements. And the time commitment alone is enough to put me off ever playing Paradox.
>>570734691What would the monster girl equivalent of the matrix be
>>570736351>Granberia also has 2% sword crisisGood to know, though you miss out her other form which is vastly superior.>Though despite this she isn't the best sword user because Novissa has +50% Attack Berserk in Crisis right? Not to be confused with the other, normal Berserk state that make the character uncontrollable.I wonder if +50% and +1 swordhit is enough to make him as big as Luka or Prom, but it's funny how if you trained Novissa and Lest, they can hard carry you through all of Part 3 better than the starter team.>Final Beelzebub has +2 sword multihitsAnd Heroism, but she isn't that good.
>>570737290Yea I understand because it's daunting to play a long rpg especally when there's so many other things you wanna do
Does the f95 download of paradox 3.06 include parts 1 and 2 as well?
>>570465792>that's not /mhg/
>>570738680It doesn't have the Part 1 and 2 CGs.
>>570740374Thanks for the heads up. So after grabbing parts one and two I can just take their graphics folders, combine them with the 3.06 version and start playing?
>>570746776Yeah. For Part 3 if you're using the translation, keep in mind that the translation is only for the first 80% of Angel World and the first 80% of Monster World. Nothing else is translated so you'll need to run an AI translator if you want to go past that.
Say, does Gravity Pleasure still work on LoC?
>>570759110Nope, trtr made sure to patch it out due to it being unintentional and honestly it’s pretty justified since allowing you to boost percentage based damage let you turn every attack into an unavoidable instant kill. There’s literally nothing that could ever be more powerful than it, because it was infinite+1 damage.
>>570492740do not bully someone’s wife into having an eating disorder. it’s mean.
>>570761469Sad, I wanted to bully the LoC wth ludicrous HP with Gravity.
>>570723385I have to feel even the slightest amount of physical attraction to a snake in order to be charmed by it, so I'm safe!
>>570732171>>570732828Ilias is a genius!
So whatever ever happened to Monster Girl Quest 3D? Did it ever release?
>>570763596That "Goddess Ilias" girl sounds kind of smart and beautiful and intelligent. I should worship her without question and obediently sing her praises!
>>570766518
Fuck foxes
>goddess slander
>>570776036shut the fuck up
>>570776252The second tutorial accident won't be an accident
>>570776252I still can't understand why they expected me to feel sorry for that retard Heinrich, it wasn't like Black Alice wasn't actively killing people
>>570776371I am your father.
>>570737538You're all trapped in Hiruko's stomach.
>succ childhood friend>she kept her magic sealed and identity hidden>a shy virgin, has a crush on you>finally musters the courage to visit your dreams>it's a wet dream>there's like 10 copies of her in your dream harem
>>570792617Only a matter of time before her instincts kicks in and she just snaps out of pure desire if he doesnt do anything.If she's the type to not be fulfilled by dreams deep down.
>>570737538>>570789581I wish I was endlessly digesting in Hiruko-chan's VR stomach
>>570793753Witness devour
>>570776616Double standard I guess. If it's a girl, if it has a pseudo sad story, it's if it's a Monster Girl, you should feel sympathy for her, no matter what, especially compared to Angels.
>>570798656 I was trying to figure out why he was so mad, if anything he should have been happy that she wasn't killed and was sealed instead since he didn't want to kill her. One of the biggest retards in the series.
>>570778485It's grandfather, no?I think those bunny ears look silly, I know they come from Apiro Ragos but bro already got an arm and a leg from her, and the ears just look silly and striking on Nihuta Telos' cloak and Idea Lukas' mask... Can we talk about cool and sexy his legs are by the way? Longest legs of most characters!
>>570798945In the VN, it was a simple case of he went against Ilias and died and got sealed.In Paradox, we have that entire mess of, he is angry at Ilias, angels and Black Alice, until he isn't angry at Black Alice anymore.
>>570799310Black Alice somewhat implies there was some shit between the two in the vn. As she waits till Heinrich's spirit is gone to go after Luka and iirc doesnt like it when his name is spoken.And the qna did state that the fuckin him shagging a princess was always a thing even back then.
>>570800190Heinrich should have slapped both of them.
>>570798656Why are all the backstory in mgq retareded as fuck
>>570800627Still not as bad as Alice 1!You will learn that a lot of porn games, but especially the femdom ones, are childish, downright retarded, double standardy and it will make you want to slap the dev in the face.
>>570776616Heinrich could have fixed her with big hero cock or something, and iirc while part of the reason heirnich is pissed at illias is because she made him kill his monster lord wife another large part of it is that he realized that illias is the biggest obstacle to world peace and that his entire journey means jack shit because he's been following illias the whole time
>>570802146And he is also mad at Black Alice. Until he isn't.
>>570802353Was there any moment where he shows any anger or hostility to B.Alice? Even when he doesnt know she was standing right next to him? He seems to be as ignorant as Luka was in the VN thinking punching the ML hard enough would make things peaceful. Doesn't even sound like he wanted to even kill B.Alice either.
>>570802996When the Black Alice Army invade, everyone got the idea, until they realize that Heinrich hate someone as much as Ilias, and it's Black Alice, so they want to use Armored Berserker and it's copies to fight the army.
>>570803156Thats paradox
>>570803691Yes? I thought we were talking about both the VN and Paradox.
>>570803156That was AW Heinrich, and it took another B.Alice for him to focus his rage on the invaders. He'll, he says he doesnt want to aim his sword at her again.
>>570804219That sure as hell didn't stop him to do it anyways.
>>570804393His AU waifu asked him to be a hero, and he accepted. We lack info on just how this relationship happened in AW since it was completely different from the OG timeline.
>>570805381It kind of become invalid when he fucked Remina's princess, latched on our world's Black Alice.Grrrrr.
>>570805584We don't know what happened in AW. For all we know AW B.Alice was the one who cucked a woman who was the AW version of the Remina Princess.Just think about it. Heinrich was probably one of those 1st class citizens, and was given his designated wife and job by Ilias, and then when he was summoned to be the hero, AW B.Alice corrupted him.
>>570806964I was talking about our Heinrich/Fused Heinrich but...I have a bad habit of assuming the characters are all the same across the worlds, unless they are clearly different.I guess I just assumed the Heinrich/Black Alice stuff happened the same in all timeline.
Why are people turning against Ilias here?
>>570807780This is the monsterfucker general
>>570807780Dumb heretics. No one worthy of your beautiful attention, my fair lady, who is better than all Alices.
>>570807916>my fair lady, who is better than all Alices....at being worse
>>570807780I'm not, Illias had a great plan of making her enemies retardedly annoying. So I stick with her out of spite
>>570808235>worse than Alice I>worse than Alice who get everything without working for it...No.No sir. Just. No.
>>570808352>sore loserYes. Yes sir. Just. Yes.
>>570808530No.
>>570808702Cope, mope and rope.
Yeah foxes won
>>570808352>worse than Alice who get everything without working for itWhich alice is this>>57080
>>570811461XVI, obviously.
>>570807780They're trying to die 50 times to get a handjob from the goddess.
I’d like to remind you all it’s never actually said if Black Alice killed anyone or not, and the attack we are shown has no casualties, only the possibility they could’ve happened. It’s only implied she just made excuses to start fights because she finds conflict/battle entertaining and never considered the long-term consequences, which is bad, but not irredeemably evil, and the reason Heinrich snapped was both because he was forbidden by Ilias from even trying to redeem her and then realized that Ilias saved BA anyways and Ilias is the actual overarching problem in the original world, meaning he has wasted his entire life and accomplished absolutely nothing.
>>570815001That's an amazing argument.>only the possibily they could've happened>It’s only implied she just made excuses to start fights because she finds conflict/battle entertaining and never considered the long-term consequences>which is bad, but not irredeemably evilI swear this thread is a Bad Arguments to use to defend your Waifu Simulator. Leave the crazy monster girl alive guys!>from even trying to redeem herOh yeah, definitely Ilias' faut there. How dare Heinrich not try to talk. How dare Black Alice just accept what she was told.
>>570815494>bad argumentsilliteracy strikes again I seeYes, her not murdering someone is the one thing that keeps her from being genuinely evil at that point in time.>but IliasShe didn’t even forbid her from being redeemed out of any moral high ground or reason of “goodness”. It’s literally because her long term plan requires Black Alice. That’s it. She forced him to kill her solely so she could take her to heaven via smoke and mirrors, and then use her to get chaos powers later on. It’s both completely hypocritical and goes against everything she was claiming to enforce, and part of that end game was to make Black Alice even worse so she would actually become murderously evil, as part of the plan to reverse-assimilate her sister’s strongest descendant.There is literally zero way to look at her situation that does not make Ilias look even worse than Black Alice, unless you’re just a die hard iliasfag trying to find excuses for her behavior which is the thing you’re accusing everyone else of doing oh hey look at that it’s “the thief who thinks everyone steals” level textbook projection
as always, Ilias was wrong
>>570816560Yes yes you are very smart. Good shitpost. Good doggie. Continue to make excuses and headcanons while insulting people who call you out. It will make you look so smart.>She forced him Credit scene showed that he could have refused, but he didn't.Get bent.
Are angels monster girls in MGQ universe?
>>570817407Yes, but actually no! No, but actually, yes!
>>570807780because she even worst than the great horned rat and the worst deity i seen in ficiton or the most detrimental one to their own race that i ever seen what the fuck does this worthless whore even do
>>570813442Maybe Wormiel can be scheduled for Evaluation #49...
>>570817749You are talking about Alice I there.
>>570816840>clarify the actual canon story>anon begins to spiral>no argument>no counter>just crying and seethingI rest my case.thank you anon.No headcanons, only facts. While you had nothing.How’s the literal dog collar from Ilias by the way. Since that’s her marriage gift.>He could have-A lightning bolt pointed to the head and also probably aimed at his home given she burned Luka’s village to the ground when he refused her yes. He reluctantly goes through with it once Black Alice assures him it will be fine (since she wanted him to kill her anyway, unaware of how it’s going to turn out for both of them thanks to Ilias) until Chaos dive kicks the self proclaimed goddess in the face to derail the event.
>>570818104Ah yes, what is heroism, what is bravery, what are Monster Lords.>A lightning bolt pointed to the head and also probably aimed at his home And you say there's no headcanons on your part, only "facts"? Big liar and hypocrite.
>>570807780Because they are WEAK Aand EASILY MISLED.
>>570817769Loli Ilias would make the perfect onahole and teddybear...
>>570818793I wish the game let the player abused her like leaf in black souls 2 she derserve to be a punching bag
>>570819236I bet she make fun and cute noises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3haHmWr0m98
>>570818793On a Smite Scale of 1-5...
>>570818348>No headcanonsYes.>what IS heroism?Heinrich has a soul searching quest over this, which was pretty nice to be honest.In any case I’d just like to remind you that even if you think pre-insanity Black Alice is irredeemably evil, (which, canonically, is not true, and she’s compared to being more of a problematic child who keeps causing trouble), Ilias went out of the way to save her and makes her even worse then seals her mindbroken lover in a rock so she’ll have the personal motivation necessary to eat her out of vengeance as part of Ilias’s plan. And Ilias’s plan was to get ultimate power so she could destroy the world, kill everyone, and make a new one filled with faceless squid people.
>>570819375https://files.catbox.moe/q8kzuj.wavhttps://files.catbox.moe/57tcmk.wavhttps://files.catbox.moe/su9xy4.wavGRAHHHHHH!!!Die, vermin...
>>570820006Come now, hugging Ilias in your bead isn't that bad!
>>570807780Because trying to gatekeep redemption and who is and isn’t redeemable while clinging to inarguably the single most evil and irredeemable character in the original story is incredibly stupid.If the original version of Ilias can be redeemed then so can Black Alice who did far less by comparison, and Alicetromeria does get redeemed, while we still have irredeemable versions of both of them out there anyway (CGBA and Sub-Ilias) so the antagonist spots remain.
>>570820895Meanwhile, Hiruko, Kanon...
>>570821052Alice, The Calamities...
>>570807780this is a dryfish general
Should I hack Constance's ring item for my coding experience? Would it be cheating on my wife Ilias?I feel like she is behind me.
>>570821052>>570821235>the original storyThank you reading comprehensionAlso you’re forgetting Gabriella Uriela and Sub-Ilias and Chaos and FOC as well.You still managed to somehow completely miss my point (and prove my other one by constantly shifting goalposts) on top of this.If a psychopathic genocidal mass-murdering salt-the-earth-level tyrannical narcissistic backstabbing bitch who spent hundreds of years working to flip the table and nuke the earth out of sheer rage because of her control freak behavior is able to be redeemed then yes I’m Hungry and little girl whippers can be redeemed and the point of redemption has always been that the only way you can’t be redeemed is if you refuse to work for it or try to be redeemed. Even Kanon self reflects and shows sympathy to Ilias if you bring her back home in the postgame.You have completely missed the point of paradox’s story if you think any of this shit boils down to “defend x girl I happen to like”. Inb4 one of you idiots throws that at me.
>>570823874Meds. Now.
>>570817407If monster girls are all the daughters of Alice and got that dark energy in them, then all the angels are daughters of illias with light energy in them. So yeah, they are monster girls because illias is just a coked up light spirit
>>570824157
>>570824157So it's all spirits?
>>570824079>m-meds!lolcope
>>570825006Yeah, and illias forever seethes that she's a spirit and not an actual omnipotent god
>>570825193You are supposed to say: Always has been.
>>570829443
>>570823874>If a psychopathic genocidal mass-murdering salt-the-earth-level tyrannical narcissistic backstabbing bitch who spent hundreds of years working to flip the table and nuke the earth out of sheer rage because of her control freak behaviorWasn't that because she was disappointed by humanity, and even at the end, she showed sign that there was good in her by healing Luka? And admiting that she still cared about her daughters?Where Hiruko and Kanon... don't have much of that.After badwriting Anon, we have goodwriting Anon. What a world we live in.
>>570829920She looks like a cat staring at fishes in an aquarium...Thankfully, we're separated by 1 mm of glass, so she can't get in, haha.
>>570829920Do you ever wonder if Sun Wukong eat them?
>>570831207I think it's funny how I think it's intended to look cute, like friendly Nekomata popping up at your window for night rape.But it just kind of hits an uncanny valley effect to me that makes it look like she's looking for a way to break in and feast on your soft fleshy innards.
>>570832057>picI'm intrigued.
>>570832057I'd let her feast on my "soft fleshy innards", if you know what I mean.
>>570832536No guro here please. That's what you meant right? Right?
>>570830785An important factor about the original Ilias’s actions is that even when she gets a chance to be portrayed in a better light, her motives are almost always shown to be much more selfish. The best example is when the Great Disaster is revealed, White Rabbit shows that part of what caused it was Remina delving further into the scale of scientific sins and disregarding the natural order of things For Science like how Promestein behaves.>So when Ilias had everyone in the city killed, she was actually trying to save the world!?>oh, no lol she just felt like it was a slight on her pride and got offended by it so she killed them all for hurting her ego lol>Ilias Route:>Ilias, is that true??>….Yeah. Yeah, I just kinda killed them because I thought it was an insult.So she massacred the city as a knee-jerk emotional reaction, and took advantage of it after the fact, rather than genociding it for the long term goal at the start.She didn’t destroy the world because she was disappointed in humanity, she was just using them as an emotional crutch, and kept sabotaging them to try and force them to be dependent on her. It was due to her desire for control and nothing ever being enough for her. Even the many loyal humans and angels were planned to die. One of the biggest factors in her redemption is her being forced to unavoidably recognize her sabotage of humanity once she sees what her “ideal human society” ACTUALLY looks like in practice (Luddite), which disturbs her.>afterI was here long before “badwriting anon” was, and I and others pointed out the issues with his criticisms during his playthrough for reasons like above. He had fundamental misunderstandings about the story, but if this was pointed out to him he just freaked out and accused you of whiteknighting rather than actually engaging with the conversation. This, combined with his open bias and downplaying of anything bad AW or Ilias did, is the reason he was hated so much.
>>570830785Humanity was better as squids.The newer models are defective. They are far too dangerous, and should have been replaced earlier.Ilias did nothing wrong.
>>570834751This post is 100% true, and I stand corrected. But I feel like this is heavily whitewashing Kanon and Hiruko. They haven't changed at all, and don't really plan to, only Kanon seemed to have a realization, but it's less >I have done something wrong.>Have I done something wrong?Sub-Ilias changed... but only because she was basically traumatized by dying twice, and really doesn't want to lose AWMicaela. In a way, I almost pity her. Her spot was stollen by our Ilias. Kek. Even Alice I doesn't give a shit about her.The problem of space-time shenanigans>One of the biggest factors in her redemption is her being forced to unavoidably recognize her sabotage of humanity once she sees what her “ideal human society” ACTUALLY looks like in practice (Luddite), which disturbs her.Though, is it? She was horrified from the start about it. I doubt her ideal human society have diddlers and rich assholes.
>>570836052Not all villians need to be redeemed in some way. I seriously doubt a majority of the Calamities are going to turn a new leaf, and will only bow down to Luka's strength. You can say that none of them deserve to live in the new world, but if God says they can, nothing can really stop it otherwise.
>>570836496Fair enough.
Reminder that Hiruko being as hungry as an omnicidal hypervore space monster and being almost entirely incapable of thinking about anything other than eating everything and everyone is not actually her fault and it's a shock that she is able to show even her current level of intelligenceKill all snakes
>>570836761Why did alice 1 make her like that again? I mean i know the meta reason is to explain cassandra from the vn but like, alice 1 could have just not made an abyssal starving ceature that is never satiated and wants nothing more than to devour the world whole
>>570837027I like how OG Ilias heard what happened with her and her response was basically-
>>570836761This also bother me. Alice 1 haven't changed either, she is still the same disgusting, slothful fat fuck Hiruko did nothing wrong it's my fault > I was grieving! > Hiruko did nothing wrong.>>570837027She was grieving from Koron the Hedgehog. Apparently, that's a good justification from picking a piece of a literal alien capable of devouring everything and make something out of it.And Lucifina give shit to Ilias about HER creations.
>>570836052Contrary to Alice who dismissed it from the start, when Ilias hears about Luddite, she becomes incredibly interested in it and begins strongly urging Luka to go there. She views it like a pilgrimage, and (having mentioned several times prior to this the evils of machina and how she wants humans to return to a simpler life), expresses high hopes for getting to see a true and honest devout faithful society.Only to almost immediately regret this once she actually goes there. Ilias quickly becomes uncomfortable, and is implied to grow mortified once she realizes the deeper implications of the place, and the Anti-Pope (archbishop who proclaims leadership over the actually elected pope) enrages her to the point she declares he’s getting the eternal suffering package. Her ideal human society was “communal living” humans fully dedicated to her with no distractions, but seeing the actuality of what this looks like is what gets her to start reconsidering if maybe she actually is out of touch with humanity and isn’t the best choice to dictate how they need to live. It’s a textbook case of Monkey’s Paw. Of course that’s not what Ilias “wants” for humanity. That’s just what her “ideal society” will actually result in, and she was more concerned with them worshipping her than any of their actual problems at the time. That’s why it hits her the way it does.
>>570837698But it's also not her ideal, devout, faithful society, nor will it result in. Hopefully, Ilias isn't that dumb, certainly not anymore.Sub Ilias is though.
But for the other point, yes, Ilias choosing to save Luka after he intentionally chose to withhold Angel Halo’s sealing properties to kill her (as he killed the other two before her and a few other things on the way) is the part that shows that as heinous and vile as she is, there is still a small part of Ilias that remained good after all, even when she openly ridiculed you for thinking such a part could exist.By a similar metric Hiruko knows full well she’s dangerous and unstable and laments how she would like to be different (even if this isn’t altruistic, it doesn’t need to be, and she still went out of the way to avoid killing any innocent bystanders when making the meat giant), and bringing Kanon to her city after the adventure is over has her have similar realizations to Ilias, even expressing sympathy for how Ilias likely felt seeing people go on without them, and the knowledge that Grangold is doing better WITHOUT her despite how she desired to “make everyone happy” actually does get to her. She even asks if, should Kanon change her ways, would that mean people would be willing to give her another chance and “play with her again”. Luka just tells her that he honestly doesn’t know. That’s not his choice to make.So more to the point, while someone can try to redeem themselves, forgiveness is still not something you can force. Even if Kanon does become a better person it’s made clear that’s not gonna magically make everyone “like” her. But this is also a lesson Ilias herself learned, too. In the end, Ilias lets go of the desire for constant external praise from everyone, and comes to cherish her Angels, who she finally accepts as being their own beings and not automatons. I never felt like this was whitewashing either of them. It seems like the natural conclusions they’d reach. They probably won’t be forgiven but they can still try anyway. They just won’t get 100+ hours dedicated to showing the journey like Ilias did.
>>570824935I don't understand why her loss scene looks more like a reward than a punishment.
>>570838909See, the problem is that while Hiruko and Kanon laments it, they don't actually do any efforts to change at all, and most importantly did absolutely heinous things. Hiruko has people in her that she doesn't even know why she has!>Luka just tells her that he honestly doesn’t know. That’s not his choice to make.Luka also tell her that she isn't trusted at the banquet in a great moment of verbal snipping.>They just won’t get 100+ hours dedicated to showing the journey like Ilias did.Which is sad, because we got Ilias doing that, and we are supposed to believe they will clean up their acts on their own, while still being as horrible as before? That would be lame. They speedrunned Alice 1's development, if we can call it that, look at the results: Still the same, but somehow we are supposed to be sympathetic.Show don't tell and stuff.
>>570838051She gives the whole “I’m gonna let all of you live your own lives, even Monsters” speech during a camping Part Two and it’s part of her development that this moment kicked off.No, Luddite isn’t literally what she wanted, but that’s why it’s a Monkey’s Paw. It’s exactly what she asked for, and what her attempts to create that “ideal society” actually lead to. A bunch of dim-witted superstitious hicks who cling to her less like a cane and more like a cudgel to make themselves feel superior to everyone else. Even the “Chosen” in AW have lingering remnants of this behavior, looking down on everyone else and being surprisingly self-centered at times.Also as much as the memes can be funny I think we all forget frequently that the narrative does actually try to show both Ilias and Alice I as being equally in the right and wrong. Taking Alice I around the final route has her realize that even if her desire not to control others is well intentioned, complete non-interference causes some problems to only get worse, and it’s a balance between the two that’s best. It’s to the point that Alice I does actually want to start “interfering”, even taking the initiative a couple of times. She ultimately passes the torch to Alice, but she explains it’s because she knows Alice is a better ruler than she is, and she will still intervene to help in times of crisis and it’s established three times she’s going to be watching over Hiruko so she doesn’t have the meat fits and eat another city on accident. There’s not enough time left to really show it, of course, unless trtr adds a 6A side quest like he did for the 7A, but she’s basically spending her retirement wrangling Hiruko to keep her from eating people.
>>570837027Strength.She was still a strunk rulez fag even after her later term abortion. It took the abomination she created to realize how stupid her philosophy was.
>>570840847>Also as much as the memes can be funny I think we all forget frequently that the narrative does actually try to show both Ilias and Alice I as being equally in the right and wrongI don't know what meme you are talking about, but that's also a problem. The narrative try, and it fail, because you are given front row to all of her fuck ups, which are all entirely self-made, all the while going off >and it’s established three times she’s going to be watching over Hiruko so she doesn’t have the meat fits and eat another city on accidentShe said that she would watch over Hiruko for once. During the banquet. Correct me if I'm wrong, absolutely correct me if I'm wrong, because this might be not having seen the other two.>>570841515And then went into another stupid philosophy. She isn't a Goddess, and should do nothing.After creating Ancestors of dubious morality, without supervision, while they dislike and attack each others, not even caring of the country she is supposed to be the Super-President of.
>>570840847>but she explains it’s because she knows Alice is a better ruler than she isWhy tho.
>>570838909>They just won’t get 100+ hours dedicated to showing the journey like Ilias did.It's possible that NG++ is that long but that screentime will focus on Chaos and her apostles anyways.
>>570842325I can't believe you forgor the calamities like that...
>>570842482If it is 100+ hours we're not getting them until 101
It's kind of cute how Zion goes to Sub Ilias and it goes>Can we go Camping? :D>No camping.> :-(>...We go Camping, we'll prepare things.>Camping! :DNot sure if she is broken that much, or if she genuinely grew a heart.
>>570840683>most importantly did absolutely heinous things>front row to all mistakesYou’re forgetting the same goes with Ilias. Most people never expected her to be redeemed; even anons starting Paradox after the final release are choosing to start with Alice due to how much they hate Ilias. They weren’t around for the trailer that showed her being sealed at the time and are going into it blind. Ilias has done utterly horrific things, all for purely selfish reasons, and she only starts to show remorse AFTER she dies and then gets yamcha’d.And yes Luka just bluntly tells Kanon he doesn’t trust her. Even in the visit to the city Luka points out it’s entirely self-inflicted on Kanon’s end. It’s when Kanon keeps going on her own and starts trying to ask if she can change, and if everyone will give her another chance if she does, that Luka starts to sound like he actually feels a little bad for her, since that’s her showing genuine contrition and remorse to him. That doesn’t really sound like she’s still as horrible as she was before. I understand there is the problem of not getting to see the full thing, but sometimes you’re not supposed to. Kanon’s story essentially ends where Ilias’s started at the beginning of the game. Distressed, depressed, but maybe it can get better if she tries. Since the vote landed on doing postgame later, we’ll just have to wait, but I don’t really mind it as it is since it doesn’t try to excuse her actions. It’s just a case of a book end, hence the in-universe comparison to Ilias.And I know I saw it three times but I can’t recall one of them; the second one I remember is the pocket castle conversation where Alice keeps insisting “Hiruko I’m serious I’m not going to let you just eat random people I’m watching you” when Hiruko talks about the food road trip she wants to go on.
>>570843256I always assumed she has a soft spot for Zion because she has that flag of her that og Ilias called ugly.
>>570843854One of the few moment where Ilias disappointed me. How is that ugly, you little cute angel loli shit.
>>570842003The lack of pre-GMW info leaves things completely up in the air. We have no idea what the 6A were doing prior to that conflict, outside of maybe Minagi, and that little info might still be when the GMW was happening. Were they like Lucifina and Michaela, stuck at home all day? Or were they allowed outside the giant devil castle? TrTr just wants to keep that time frame as ambiguous as possible.
>>570843592Here's a thing, maybe it's the Illiasfag in me that is speaking, but what Illias did? That's small potatoes, ridiculous sized potatoes, burned to a crisp compared to what Kanon and Hiruko did. And still probably does in Hiruko's case because I have no idea if the people she has in her stomach are still there or not.Kanon made a gallery out of torturing humans. Kidnapping. Full on guro for God knows how long. The extremely sad thing is that it's not just Kanon who is responsible, since a lot of characters enjoyed and participated in it, especially other plant monster girls.Hiruko eaten people, put them in her time dilated stomach, and keep them raped or tortured.It's not the same situation as Ilias. And they would need a lot of perfect writing if you forgive the word, for them to be redeemed in a satisfying way.>And I know I saw it three times but I can’t recall one of them; the second one I remember is the pocket castle conversation where Alice keeps insisting “Hiruko I’m serious I’m not going to let you just eat random people I’m watching you” when Hiruko talks about the food road trip she wants to go on.I'll trust you and will go watch them later. That's a big W for you and Alice.
>>570845271Minagi sound like a piece of work, and I'm still not sure if we should ignore the OVA or not.
>Bandai Direct in 2 daysTSbros...Alysionbros...
>>570843142Never ever.
>>570847273OVA could have been a test run for what the Ancestors were really like, and when people hated it, TrTr backpeddled.Or maybe TrTr had nothing to do with the story, and just let the animators use his succubus ancestor to make a typical succubus hentai.
>>570850123>and when people hated it,I wonder why. Fufu.
>>570849261>TSbros...what's this one
>>570850254Could have just made it into a horrible anime like Rance. We got a horrible hentai sideshow. Instead
>>570851680Rance anime wasn't that bad. By comparison.
>>570846247>maybe it's the Ilias*fag in me that is speakingI assure you it is.The sum of what Ilias did is miles worse. Neither one of those two tried to murder an entire planet out of spite. Ilias had angels loyal to her kidnapped and transformed into grotesque genetic aberrations that live in constant pain, sometimes for crimes like “fell in love”, sometimes just to see what would happen, and had a habit of abandoning abominations from disinterest. She called a ceasefire and then worked around the terms to orchestrate genocides with the chimeras led by angels like someone directing pit bulls to an orphanage. Hunted down to the last. She had a village of humans loyal and faithful to her burned down because of something Luka did with the intent being to kill all of them, and even the humans who remained loyal to the end for her are rewarded with torture because she doesn’t care about them. Paradox goes even further and makes her even worse, and even when she’s shown to backpedal on an atrocity it’s for purely selfish reasons and not a ping of conscious.Paradox also used this to make a showing of how far Ilias has come, however. Even if she was “that bad” she’s still come a long way. The original even shudders at some of the stuff she used to do without batting an eye. Hiruko’s actions are more viscerally nightmarish but even the things the two plants did pale to the original BBEG of the setting, and even Hiruko starts changing behavior before the final route ends. Trtr has implied you’ll get to save everyone in the flesh pits on NG++ at least, but yes if someone like Ilias can be redeemed I think any of them can be.I say this as someone who picked Ilias back in Part 1.
>>570850123>OVA could have been a test run for what the Ancestors were really like, and when people hated it, TrTr backpeddled.At least we got Kanon and Hiruko.
>>570843256Morality retard
Anybody know if the 50% append abilities stack with the append 100% ones of the same stat? Or if the append 50% ones apply even if that stat is what ends up being used in a skill? Or if the magic skill append 100% ones also apply to all magic skills despite saying they only apply to certain ones?
>>570857562 (me)Answer appears to be yes, yes, no after a little testing.
>>570857562Yup.>Or if the magic skill append 100% ones also apply to all magic skills despite saying they only apply to certain ones?I don't think so.
>>570851903I honestly don't think it is, just... Kanon and Hiruko are so vile and has done their things like that for how many years or decades, I can't just...An entire kingdom. In Hiruko's stomach. For what they think is more than it is. Being devoured/tortured/raped. That she forgot. Angels being cubified and always being in pain? In my head, that's small, very small. BY COMPARISON, because I'm not saying that Ilias was good in the VN. Ever.Take at a Testament of how low I think of Kanon and Hiruko.>Neither one of those two tried to murder an entire planet out of spite.Neither one has the power for it mind you. Kanon Green Dragon form wouldn't be pretty.
>>570860853I do wounder what it was like to be ruled by Hiruko for that one year when she didn't go super hungry and eat the whole kingdom. Like did the kingdom try its best to satiate her hunger, only to run out of food? Hiruko seems to have people in her gut that she really likes, and those who she considers criminals, so maybe they are those are remnants of that one year when she tried to rule properly?
Why does MGQ have no monster boys?
>>570862630We have Nero. What do you mean he doesn't look like a monster boy?!?!
>>570860853You're too focused on those two to properly weigh it. Just don't bother.Trust us, Ilias is worse.
Ah shit, i'm back. Any new Lona or Victoria propaganda?
>>570862630The White Rabbit actually answered this.What you see in MGQ is the collective desires of past universes, especially the 8th one,i.e. ours.The fapping of monster girls made a large mark in the Akashic Records, which then influenced the current universe to give everything non-human tits. Male monsters are not wanted, and never will be wanted.
>>570866062If it were a popularity contest then all the girls would be MGE dogshit
>>570866062Which is false, but this is an AU so who care.
>>570866703Haven't heard of any monster boy quest though, or it's too obscure.
>>570866590When the author of said universe is best friends with the likes of Delphinus, Xelvy, and Setouchi, than you know MGE vanilla designs won't be the dominant forms.
>>570860853>Neither one has the power for it mind you.Hiruko absolutely does but doesn’t want to, it’s the DI mind virus trying to compel her too. Kanon also hates the green dragon and given it lobotomizes her to the point of incoherent screaming while she kills all her allies it’s understandable.And I’d have to agree with >>570862917, I think you are unable to try and look at the narrative impartially, because of your own self-admitted bias towards Ilias as an Iliasfag and hatred towards MW. Meat Land is pretty brutal but they don’t really have the rap sheet of sheer pointless cruelty that she does. Hiruko also puts in the most effort to help compared to the other AA members and goes out of the way to not just melt civilians for her plan despite it being implied that it would’ve been faster if she did, when she killed the thing that was terrorizing countless worlds.
>>570862630Because promstien hasn't invented them yet
>>570862630Merlin is a boy fairy.NeroLuka is an angel boy so idfk where that stands.and a rabbit boy that one time.Sabassa king is a chad.the end.
>>570866801Do you seriously think that girls don't masturbate to monster boys or anything?...
>>570871349No they just masturbate to outright Monsters.
>>570871314>Luka is an angel boy so idfk where that stands.>and a rabbit boy that one time.And a mecha!... And a giant guy in weird clothing and wings!... And a mecha too! And another giant mecha that is the fusion of the first two!Nero and Merlin look the most like Monster Boys. Nero in his true form has different skin color, rainbow wings of light and Alice's eye on his hair. Merlin is tiny and have fairy wings. You can't really make the Fairy King actually look like a monster because... Fairy.>Luka is an angel boy so idfk where that stands.He doesn't count. he only has one wing made of light, a shiny eye, and that's it. Luka is a FRAUD I'm shaking up my head
>>570871314The Pope ended up a droid, which is considered a monster race for some reason. Gold King ended up as a final boss monster.
>>570872331Mecha Pope and Gold King have been done so dirty.Mecha Pope... My Beloved...
>>570866801Unfortunately instead of making a proper monster boy quest, TRTR decided to make an entire series of normal human boys getting tentacled fucked by bugs or whatever
>>570872471Mecha Pope got replaced by Cyber Knight. She is him, but a hell of a lot better. Also booba.Gold King is still one of two only natural human/chimera recruits. So good for him I guess.
>>570872789>Mecha Pope got replaced by Cyber KnightHow could they do that. How could they do such a thing.>Gold King is still one of two only natural human/chimera recruits. So good for him I guess.He was so strong, but now not only did he fall off hard, Ruling has fallen off hard. He haven't regained his human form, or a better form...Why TRTR, whyyyyy is it because your name rhymes with NTR
>>570873042Because technology is meant to improve. Cyber Knight is a newer model, so she was going to be better. Not to mention the base human was superior too. A younger, more athletic gemale monster slayer is an improvement over a sickely old man politician.
>>570874006Respect Mecha Pope!
I think girls want to be the monster girl, I’m still convinced trtr is a girl
>>570876441I don't think it's the case, but I wouldn't be surprised. Female writers can be freaky.
>>570876441Wasnt nekopara created by a woman. Prolly the most upfront one i can remember off the top of my head.
>>570871314Don't forget Susanoo
>>570846247>in Hiruko's case because I have no idea if the people she has in her stomach are still there or notWant to find out?
>>570878450Where IS Susanoo? That little shit. I want him and Izanagi. Susanoo is mentioned in the sidequest of the ninja hero, and Izanagi is told in passing to roast Izanami a bit in the castle.
>>570877771Monster boys don't feel that popular among women. For non-humans it's either>a pair of cat ears>a vampire that just has pale skinor>a yautja>a dog on two legsLittle inbetween.
>>570879242>Monster boys don't feel that popular among women...Let me tell you about a male monster called a Minotaur...
>>570879048Seal your power away and become a trad wife!
>>570879063Is the nahobino strong enough to survive in mgqp
>>570879937Yes.>butYES.
>>570879063He is dead, since he was essentially human. Funny enough, the entire family is dead, outside his descendants since the Izanami and Himiko of the Singularity World were killed in the GMW.
>>570880198Grumble grumble...
>>570879063I do wonder if Izanagi was one of those proto-human blooded people that Ilias guided to be royalty.Named after the founder of Japan, and we have a literal Japan inspired place in MGQ, makes me think he was the founder of Yamatai, but decided to bail on ruling it because of his awful wife.
>>570883105To be fair, anyone would run away from Izanami in MGQ.A funny thing is that one of the yellow robot is named Tsukuyomi.
>>570883989Yeah, but what we see now is a literal corpse. She could have been more attractive when she was more lively. But on the other hand, considering what their daughter looks like, this is likely another SabasaXSphinx situation where some super warrior guy falls for some really monstrous beast woman.
>>570885063She is full of worms bro.Oh and her daughter's name, Himiko, but she introduce herself as Amaterasu, this isn't out of nowhere, as there are theories that Amaterasu and Himiko might be the same person irl, or or the irl mythos.
I do think anon is correct in that Black Alice probably never did anything that bad, but I also cant say I love that's the direction trtr went with it. As it helps undermine Tamamo's decision to come back and help raise the monster lords even further, Tamamo's whole ass character is already on life support after it was revealed her mw counterpart isn't even that evil don't take this away from her too
My Paradox commission request was accepted.
>>570879063He's dead. Susanoo was one of the founders of Yamatai and he died centuries ago. Dude was a monsterboy famous for his strength and his mom and sister miss him.
>>570466362breed both
>>570489376very cute harpies
Two birdies wanted to make a nest in the house, the cat ate them both.
>>570879937Yes, any SMT protag have the capacity to slap the abrahamic god after allhonestly the amala multiverse is somewhat similar to MGQ, if you go with the deep lore and its creator being implied to be the protagonist of the original novel that became SMT
>>570897792didn't smt 1 or 2 protag job to him though
Fun things to do with your fox:
My autistic ass just had a horrible idea:Someone should draw Chaos(mgq) in Garland's(ff) armorWith like her head pokin out of itTo complete the funny and increase the level of final fantasy reference.
This isn't funny anymore, where's the damn update threshold
>>570897792>if you go with the deep lore and its creator being implied to be the protagonist of the original novel that became SMTWhat the?
How can people dislike such a beautiful woman?
>>570910572Because she's a w*man.
>>570910572tits too big
>>570911759To clarifyWith her stating angels arent monsters. That makes her closer to a human woman than a monster girl.on top of her making h*man woman a thing.Therefore she's more like a human woman than a lot of other characters in the game. Cuz she invented human woman
>>570911959who invented men
>>570912231Her too but talking about men would make me gay unless i talk about women at the same time which would make me the one nobody talks about.
>>570912495why didn't she invent any male angels, like what made her randomly add human men into the mix
>>570897792I doubt the hero form smt 1 can survive he a decent npc at best
>>570911759>>570911959That's stupid. She got horns! And spacetime wings!
>>570917363That's what she wants you to think.
>>570917528We got so robbed with Trtr using her old design.
Huh, I've found a funny pattern.If you remove an angel's halo and wings in photoshop, they all start looking like human who-
>>570917597Fishlias is cute, though. The only thing wrong with her is her mouth, which gets hard to see when she smiles with it closed.>>570917895Humans are the one who look like angels. Our ape ancestors selectively bred over centuries to look closer to the beauty of angels.
>>570917895What if you remove the horns and wings?Hey, nothing happened!
>>570918241>Fishlias is cuteBut meanwhile, Sub Ilias get a brand new sick ass sexy style, and Alice get a completely new design.It's frustrating. I don't care about coherence with the previous work, since Trtr replaced a lot of character arts with more modern ones.
>>570918360Funny enough, FrFr made an all new cut-in for Ilias. Why TrTr didnt pay him for a new sprite instead, who knows.He could have just reused the old hentai CGs, since he did it with other characters already.
>FishliasI sleep.>FishnetsliasWorship worthy.
>>570917597Ilias regaining her strength would have been the perfect chance to reinvent her image.
>>570918360Things are only as sexy as you believe them to be Anon. If you believe it with your damn soul you will realise that Sub-ilias' personality overwrites a obsession with artstyle.
trtr should make an april fool's update that replaces all important character sprites with new ones made by shimpi or xelvy-style doodles.
>>570920942Frfr had a lot of BFs to do as well as other misc characters like WitchSub-Ilias is just plain superior anyway
>>570932028lollmaoit’s funny that you think thatbut no, she’s pretty horrendous looking, every single one of red’s replacements is awful and awkward
>>570932678The goddess forgives you even if you are absolutely wrong in every possible way
>>570934869I already have the forgiveness of the superior, why would I care about the feelings of an inferior sub version? frfr can’t be beat.
It is not the pursuit of happiness it is the happiness of pursuit.
>>570937807Happiness Village lost its happiness when stinky bird monsters showed up. It got it back later, but shouldn't have lost it in the first place.
>>570920942>>570925929Ikr??>>570932028>Sub-Ilias is just plain superior anywayGraphically anyways. She got not just one, but two kickass set of portraits!Meanwhile Our Ilias got robbed.
>>570932678>>570935873>>570940935They're both badMommy knows bestNever question her ever
>>570944552I'm surprised Luka haven't stopped her, or slapped her.
>>570944552Sub-Luka probably deserved the brain surgery. He likely refused to follow the Goddeses' orders because of someone's bad parenting skills.
>>570939497Such blatant libel!
>>570944704Honour your father and your mother so that you may live long in the land that Yahweh your God is giving you.
>>570944976But she isn't his mother.
>>570910371yeah Nakajima being the Great Will is from one of the last bible phone spin-offs, its technically still canon i think, they got a release on steam some years ago, still in jap tho.The deep lose of the amala multiverse is almost nasuverse tier at some points.>>570901083maybe? if you take SMT IV apocalypse they can in a team fight something stronger than YHWH and win a spar at least.
>>570945057I mean AW literally merged wih Paradox world so...
>>570945108That's just in one of the Last Bible games, not in anywhere else.
>>570945247yes and its the only game to tell who is the great will, the great will exists in all the games, even persona.
>>570945174And AWLucifina took one look at our actually Lucifina's parts and memories... and went nope, don't want it, and gave it Micaela, with zero explaination as to how she did that.It make Micaela's big moment not so great suddenly.
>>570945395No.>who is the great willThe Great Will is the Great Will doofus. It's a cosmic entity with no actualy work that isn't weird. Don't be stupid enough to think everything is linked neatly.
>>570945402Wow my mommy has 2 souls now
>>570945579I dont get why you reject this so much, even stephen implies there is a intelligence behind it during IV apocalypse, considering he works for the damn thing.
>>570872664She likes shota and monsters.Girl monsters aren't as profitable as monster girls though so it's only for side works
>>570807780Ilias needs to stop herself from being so lonely. She needs to find Justice as a way of balance instead of dishing it out to get exactly what she wants. She needs to incarnate herself as a human and find what it means to love and be loved. She needs to understand suffering and humility. She needs to understand pain and consequence. She needs to understand sacrifice and death. If she incarnated as a human and accompanied Luka on his journey to defeat the Monster Lord and fell in the process she would understand and be a far better Goddess. She is right for hating monsters like the Succubi for treating sex as a mockery of life, devouring and indulging like a parasite. That does not mean she should commit to a Global War on Monsters, but enact justice as a balancing act to deter acts that could wipe out humanity.>>570807916Thats right heretics need to stop slandering her and start loving her. She created humanity. This is not a mistake. We need to love her and invite her into our arms. She is our Mother.
>>570945612That isn't how it works. The souls merged, leaving only one. Michaela being the dominate one, ate Lucifina's soul, and absorbed her memories.
>>570945612No she doesn't? She LOOKED at the actual Paradox Lucifina's soul, decided she didn't want it, and gave to Micaela to chomp.Can you read?
>>570945738And that's your mistake, thinking every SMT are linked. Your second mistake is using Apocalypse as an example. This simply doesn't make sense.I'm against the idea, while you are balls deep into the idea.
>>570946532Agree to disagree, its quite obvious the Amala multiverse is very linked on the high level.But whatever, you do you.
>>570946676Such a high level that it's irrelevant in the best case scenario, and Nakajima just die anyways.Yeah I'm sure God Nakajima gave humanity the mission of observing stuff so demons could be made, the same guy who made a script so that he could continue his world. Who then die and get replaced. Really.Multiversal kids, never ever.
>>570946985Your opinion seems to be just based on your dislike of multiverse stuff, guess its better to just ignore you if you want to be so biased.>Nakajima just diedifferent Nakajima mate.> Who then die and get replaced. yes, happens in quite a lot of JRPGs desu
>>570947258>biasedLol the hypocrisy and lack of self awareness.
>>570947372sure man, whatever, lets agree to disagree, its quite obvious talking to you is like talking to a wall.Keep being a nonbeliever.
>>570947475I'll do.
So anyways. Lucifina in game suck and is boring and only have one faceset..
>>570947756mod in more
so anyways could lucifina beat smt lucifer
>>570879937Nahobino, demifiend and nanashi are on easy mode with their god/bug powers, the real question is if a classic sword and gun normal human MCs like doom guy, kazuya,aleph or the devil summ protags could surivive.
>>570950993>kazuyaI'm still seething that they took one of SMT1's MC for SHRIFT's.
>>570950993couldn't they just negotiate with monster girls to join the party like luka
>>570950993End game Nanashi would destroy everything in MGQ if he were to learn even one tiny end game skill. Dude can pierce everything including absorb and reflect, and has bonus damage for everything.Nahobino is harder to pinpoint because his deal post VV is to manipulate pressturns, MGQ doesn't have that, but if he were to even get half of that on top of his Fuck You I Dodge Everything, this will be a carnage.
>>570951263Maybe but i'd say that would probably be heavily dependent on if their comps work or not, in the games themselves where shock bullets aren't OP the mc usually ends up in a more supportive or defensive role because they're the only one that can use items and talk, and can't use magic like the heroine or demons can.
What about a world where the Dark Goddess was murderized early on by a schizo Ilias who then used parts of her to create 7 new angels that were later thrown out of heaven and became the 7 princes of hell?
>>570951892>became the 7 princes of hell?are they good or bad
>>570951263>>570951752COMP only work for demons after all. I doubt that Monster Girls are made of the same stuff as them. Magnetite/Magatsuhi.
>>570951142Shrift is so obviously inspired by megami tensei that it clashes with its other inspiration being undertale of all things. So these demons that are currently in the middle of invading earth destroying cities and murder raping people are actually dindu's trust
>>570951982I hate it. I hate it so much. You cannot understand the full might of my hatred. Currently. Since it will obviously pass and become disdain.
>>570951950>>570951752I mean they literally just don't need to use the comp, they can just give shit / ask for monster girls to join
>>570952170Ah yes, nothing could go wrong.
>>570952312I mean shit goes wrong when negotiating with COMPs so I don't see the difference
>>570946016>>570946192That's exactly how it works, any Lucifina is always mommy.
>>570952170That sounds like a really easy way to get raped to death in your tent after the monster girl "joins" your party. The only reason luka doesn't get bad ended for recruitments is because the pocket castle plus alice/ilias being there to deter any funny buisness (that luka doesn't initiate himself, anyways)
>>570952516The thing about the COMPs is that your demons are forced into loyalty once joined, and you could easily be backstabbed or raped by Monsters.
>>570952671>>570952612wtf I thought monster girls weren't evil
>>570952518More like Fake Mommy. Faker than Ilias could ever hope to be.
>>570952804Can't be faker than the fakest backstabbing skank who claimed to be the "creator" of the universe.
>>570952907A Fake Mom is worse than a Fake Goddess, because obviously, Gods are fake.
Basing it on paradox wouldn't every smt MC just be able to job and race change?
>>570952987Mommy is always real, gods are not.
>>570953034Yes. Now good luck finding a Race for certain MCs who aren't humans anymore.
Ilias didn't create the universe, but she is my universe.
>>570953068AWLucifina, is not, and will never be, the actual mother of Luka. She's an insane bitch who literally sus amog us her way in and everyone just accepted it that is often very funny but her gag sometime gets old.Not my mommy.Recognize gaslightning.Boycott Lucifina.
>>570953193damn she's so fat she might collapse into a universal black hole
>>570953401Luka should beat her up and then get raped to assert dominance
>>570953573More like tell her she isn't his mom and should fuck off.
>>570953401Nope, mommy will always be mommy. Ask Marcellus, she's the real deal.
>>570953401True, remember sweet vn lucifina
I wonder how raidou kuzunoha would do in the MGQ world.all persona protags get raped turn 1 tho, social links are irrelevant for horny monster girls.
>>570953903Sweet to Luka maybe...
>>570953953Rape isn't always the end of the world, though. If anything, sex can help improve the social link.
>>570953776We don't even know his relationship with her. Apparently they know each others? Why and how? Did he father every Lukas? Unllikely, so why does he has anything to do with her? She literally took the soul of his actual wife, read it, and throw it away.>>570953903The Lucifina we saw in the VN and in Part 2 was gentle, and was clearly a changed woman. I'm not even against a violent Lucifina either, they could have gave us both. But nope.
>>570953953I thought persona 1 and 2 guys had guns
>>570954092So what you are saying is that Persona need more sex.
>>570953953eternal punishment tatsuya could survive. Mainly because he carried over his experience from IS and is purely driven by angst. Fuck philmon
When playing on paradox am I just supposed to lose when faced with enemies that are immune to all conditions? The route 3 mimic girls are already instantly wiping me unless I get very lucky.
>>570954137yes but the fuck is a gun gonna do to a slime girl, they are getting raped by most monster girls.>>570954092true, i guess if they survive and get some more chill monster girl wife i can see one surviving, imagine a persona protag in the harpy village, dude gonna be friends with all the men and have various wives.
>>570954137Oh yeah. And not baby guns either, machine guns!
>>570954314>yes but the fuck is a gun gonna do to a slime girl, they are getting raped by most monster girls.beat her? we have few examples in paradox of gun users
>>570954287i do nee to play 2, but jesus the story is depressing by what i remember.
>>570954287He also has a The World Punchy Fire Nuclear Boy. That's something that would break stuff until the post game.And he can apparently use it in story to just stop time.
>>570954518im more taking slime girls are being more or less immune to physical damage, but i suppose it depends fo the gun.
>>570954674summon persona for agi then
>>570954521It might seem depressing but it ends on a very hopeful note in EP, it was definetly meant to be experienced as duology
>>570954521Depressing? Don't be a baby, be strong!
Alice and Foxes (part 2) TLhttps://files.catbox.moe/97zgc3.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/dgotp8.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/y7ya8w.mp4The text pacing gets a little rough, but it can't be helped.
>>570955026>>570955071i will give it a try someday
foxes won
>Alice cuckpostingSome people just hate to see the maingirl win
>>570955235Be strong! For Fuhrer! Who is definitely Fuhrer and no one else!
>>570955161where can i find the full pics?
>>570955304I'm surprised cuckposting at all is so tolerated.
>>570955304>Some people just hate to see the maingirl winyeah we get a lot of illias hate
>>570955161Why is this so good?
>>570955235I would reccomend having a speed up function for the battles because they are pretty grindy and repetitively casting the same nuke fusion spells. p2 is solidly in the "autobattle" side of megami tensei games, and fusion spells are an understated core mechanic that are the main way to make a persona stronger, whenever you end a battle with a fusion spell depending on the persona and users affinity theres a chance to get a mutation which can speed up persona ranks and unlock new skills/add some stats
>>570955161I have a bigger penis than Luka. I do not know how to feel about that.
>>570955383It's not tolerance, it's resignation.Stay quiet and the ntr posts contnueComplain and the ntr posts continue anyway but there's more posts clogging the thread.
>>570955383Alice hasn't had anything good or new for her in over a decade because paradox is solidly the "illias redemption arc" game and paradox alice is just a worse character than VN alice. All we got is the confirmation that she and luka are bad parents
>>570955383Alice being a cuck is a common joke and meme. Anything else is heavily disliked.
>>570950993The normal human protags could probably survive at least depending on where you drop them into the world.Doom guy's extremely competent and is just prime hero material. He's also been dropped into the closest thing to an smt equivalent of a tartarus and survived.Haven't played 1 or 2 to completion, but Kazuya would probably survive as long as he wasn't dropped straight into a tartarus or hellgondo. He's got a pretty big weakness to earth though.As far as I'm aware, Aleph is an enhanced human test tube baby and is the only mc to actually beat the shit out of YHVH before IVA. He definitely survives if you don't just throw him into the deep end.DeSu1's protag is the smt equivalent of a proto-human in mgq. If taking race descriptions as literal, he might qualify as being a demonoid should he take the chaos route. Prom's modifications could add angel to make him into an archfiend from there. We also don't actually see what he's truly capable of before the end of the game as he pretty much just came into his powers in Overclock's chaos route.DeSu2's protag is just a gary stu, plain and simple. Everyone in-universe will bend over backwards to suck his cock, but that might actually get him killed in mgq.
>>570955885The Truth Nuke is heavy in this post.
>>570955607i see, thanks
>>570954291it takes a bit of building to stand up to enemies that can't be controlled.a shield hero setting up barriers with haste and taking the brunt of random-target multihits. endure and auto-revive on every single unit.Pandoras should be slowed, silenced and blinded with haste. It all starts with haste.Then it's down to barriers, null+counters and other layers of defenses and then killing it before it can kill you.
>>570955409>literally gets broken so hard she embraces coexistencelmao
But could the protag of SMT Devil Children survive?
>>570955923I meant devil summoner as in kyuoji kuzunoha and the soul hackers protag, desu1's protag would be fine as long as he wasn't day 1 and hasn't defeated a single bel yet, desu2's protag i dunno he was just a guy, broing out with anguished one on his route was cool though and i'm eternally pissed that the rerelease scenario made da*chi route the canon one
>>570953176I mean by mgq standards, they'd still have human in their race list so they'd be fine.Demi-fiend: Human, Yoma, Lowly Angel, Demonoid. Archfiend post TDE.Nanashi: Human, Zombie, Demonoid. Potentially Archfiend with Dagda's influence late game.Nahobino: Human, Demi-Human, Lowly Angel, Demonoid. Archfiend on ascension.
>>570958470Sounds good but I'll add a funny thing. Demi-Fiend final race is Chaos King, or just Chaos.I'm surprised you didn't give Nahobino the Robot race.
>Want to replay Paradox>But also want to wait until the NG+ updateGod damn, how much shit is TRTR changing/adding?
>>570957067succubus bait
>>570958768its trtr, probably half of a DQ game worth of text.
>>570958768Apostles, Calimities, some jobs, new forms, NG++ like you said, Traits Awakening.Probably almost ten fucking years. Woohoooooo...
>>570959479HEY! At least half of that is going into a free series of novels he'll release on pixiv!
>>570959867Woohoooooo...
>>570957127Ah yeah, my bad. Mixed up Devil Summoner and Devil Survivor. I honestly doubt Soul Hackers mc could survive if he tried to actively stay in the action past (and even during) collab scenario. Dunno about Kyouji, but Raidou might find a niche or something as a summoner up till chaos route.>>570958727Forgot about proto-fiends being artificial. Imo, I'd say they're closer to dolls than roids though, but he would need the beam sword skills from roids... Guess his races would just be fucking stacked lol.Lore-wise, I imagine they'd all probably stop at Super Archfiend and just not go onto the final race even though the game would technically let them. Demi-fiend might settle into Great Monster Lord, Nanashi might settle into No Life King, Nahobino would probably need his own final race that'd reflect becoming a god.
>>570960749 (me)Or Nahobino could just go all the way and get archfiend of chaos and/or god(dess) of creation. Dude does technically have a throne if he doesn't decide to destroy it.
>>570960749I mean, Nanashi siding with Dagda and Nahobino both become Gods, and not baby gods only called gods because they are powerful, genuine almighty Gods omnipotence and all that good stuff.It wouldn't do a good game.>but he would need the beam sword skills from roidsJust give him unique gear.Also ignore the fact that Nahobino's skillset would be all over the types in MGQ. Most of the stuff and the good stuff be in Sword anyway.How about making Nahobino a->>570961352>god(dess) of creationThat yeah lel.It doesn't really fit their kits, but who care.
>>570960749>Guess his races would just be fucking stacked lol.Gyheheheheh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ5Of21KSLM
>>570961925if we take gameplay mechanics and exploits as canon then all protagonists are OP as fuck, SMT is very exploitable if you know what you are doing.
>>570962026It's a joke. You said stacked, I post the video where the word stacked is.
>>570962305im not the first guy you quoted, but yeah i guess
>>570965287>Hey luka lets have a friendly duel>okay>haha i beat you because you don't go all out against friends>Rape time!!!What the FUCK was her problem?
>>570966058luka wants that tho
>>570955235Mein Ilias... the popularity polls for Part 3 are in.All of our Angels lost to Hiruko.
>>570955923Doom Guy, which im guessing you mean SJ's MC, would have no problem making it until at least Hellgondo, maybe even to the ML castle if he plays it smart.He is a seasoned soldier, and knows how to operate advance tools, so high levels classes like gunner and the like when it comes to the tech classes. And he has really advanced armor and weapons, the kind of stuff that would be found at the endgame shops of Part 2. They are after all, the 8th universe junk that Tarturas has.
>>570955923>>570966498For sure he fucks shit up, but Ilias' ego is going to backfire HARD here.Assuming she doesn't try to command him to slay a rabbit girl early on.
>>570966969Wrong Doomguy.We are talking about Strange Journey MC. Though I guess he is the equivalent to that Doomguy from the first two Doom games, before whatever the hell happened to him in the recent games.
>>570966969He is probably going to turn on any monsters that is a bit too mean anyways, angels or not.
>>570966498Honestly? I'd put him at Heinrich level. Dude always stuck out to me as like peak human. Entities like the Demiurge, Mem Aleph and Shekinah are no joke with (iirc) Shekinah filling the void of a shattered YHVH, and the guy took them on while giving out orders to his demons at the same time. Put him in a world like paradox's where he can alter his jobs and races, and he'd probably do fine even in AD or MW.
>>570966969Doomguy, Pochi, Barbun, and Mary stomp.
>>570966058Classic VN problem.
>>570966058Nobody compares a person to a reptile as a compliment. Anything with scales is evil and treacherous by nature.
>>570970637Especially if it's called Alice 1!
>>570970637is that why saja was invited to AW?
AWtard is going to have conflicting thoughts now
>>570971685It's because she has pretty wings.
>>570972356>choosing people "worthy" of AW based on looks alonesounds very corrupt
>>570972613>trying to start an argument from a jokeWhy do you have to do this
Judgment did nothing wrongIt is his entire job to do nothing wrong
>>570974378He pretty much killed himself
>>570974378Please understand, it's arrogant to want to judge people and only leaving the good to live.Killing people, forcingly fusing them aand giving them schizophrenia is totally the way, and the objectively right choice.The fact that Alice and Alice 1 don't see the contradiction is funny if it's wasn't sad.
>>570974769>Killing people, forcingly fusing them aand giving them schizophrenia is totally the way, and the objectively right choice.And then killing them again but permanently
>>570975692Like nuking san ilia?
Whelp, I found the way to modify the + in the script, it's easier than changing the equip traits..At this point I may as well make a tutorial to papier mache all of it. Or not.
>>570976416shame you'll still not deal enough damage with it to kill the super void enemies before they 1 shot you.
>>570976261I find it funny how the people of San Ilia willfuly ignore that it was one of the apostles, and the craziest at that, who caused all of that explosion.Japs and nuclear, a love story as good as Twilight.Look how they massacred my church town...
>>570976554>before they 1 shot you.I don't know about the future, but right now, they don't. We are stuck in a case where they can't touch me, but I barely do any damage.It's probably how Luka and Chaos fought in the bad ending, doing super powerful attacks, but doing nothing to each others.
>>570976935>We are stuck in a case where they can't touch meSweet summer child, wait until you reach the depths where they ignore all evasion types, damage null types, and deal damage numbers so high they stop using numbers and instead use symbols.
>>570977246I don't think we have that yet. Unless you have a screenshot.
>>570976664Mermaid scum ruined it first.
>>570977440I'd take the fishes over the succs and anti-makina.
>>570977537The fishstick monsters lit the fire.Mecha Pope refusing to punish the Mermaids led to even more animosity afterwards.No Goddess Ilias means false prophets and grifters stepped in to take advantage of the situation.
>>570976935>>570977246>ignore all evasion types, damage null typesIt's funny that the LoC is complained to be too easy to fight now and hard to kill when later bosses are 100% going to have that. The symbol thing is unlikely since it seems redundant with Japanese already using symbols for numbers and the game treating your highest damage given/taken as a highscore.
>>570979059It's only normal, LoC wasn't updated, except to refuse us to farm gems. I'm just playing with with my toy.Symbols?
>>570465792>https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)>https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)>Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.>https://pastebin.com/w87i82zPWhich one of these should I download if I just want to play MGQP from the start
>>570979263You download the 3.06 Raw, and apply >>570979263>Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.
>>570979236It was updated slightly that now nightmares are just unviable but not enough where it's nothing compared to the powercreep we got. Japanese uses Kanji
>>570979629thanks :)
>>570980465No prob. Have fun!
>>570980330Chaos Route really killed Nightmares characters sadly. Or not so sadly.
>>570974769The alices aren't excluding anyone in their plan, its incredibly flawed but they don't pick and choose, everyone has a chance to survive.. technically, even if they get ship of thesus'ed from the fusion of all their alt selves
>>570980726I'd go with sadly. Outside Est the others are secretly contenders for worst characters in the game as they buff the hardest bosses but won't get that merit since they trivialize more or less a quarter of the game.
>>570980726Gimmick characters where always a gimmick
Interesting question, should Chaos go for Atk, or Mag?
>>570984708You say that as if Novissa and Lest weren't good because of their gimmicks, where the Nightmares become hardcountered.
I don't even know where am I in term of damage. Undecillion? When it repeat it's D, which normally would stand for decillion.
>>570993290Reaching disgaea levels
>>570955161Thank you very much for the translation.Do you have a kofi or a place to donate?
>>570993849I think we have surpassed them since almost ten years. We going beyond. Plus Ultra.
>read the japanese wiki>sub ilias>As an aside, the TV program "Trivia no Izumi" once offered a prize: a melon bread case shaped like a brain, called "Golden Brain." Therefore, some players might have associated the melon bread they received as a gift with a brain.holy shit that's dark
Promestein Unified form is a reference to Gundam.Just how many references have we missed?
>>570952128Kazuya being shit on right after his neutral ending was a salt to the wound like he got gang raped by the arcangel og all thing all other smt protag could mid dif them consider all of the arc angel are mid game demon in all other series
>>570955923DeSu 2 protag could do ridiculus shit like steal chaos power and anyone else in the verse also he a giant troll that what i love about him
>>570996710It was during a time where Archangels were final boss worthy, or before them. The kind of big dicks that you didn't not fuck around.So sad for him though to die like that, but it did bring SMT2, and SMT2 is awesome. It's also quite away from the Power of Friendship that modern Atlus seems to love too much.
>>570974769>The fact that Alice and Alice 1 don't see the contradiction is funny if it's wasn't sad.
>>570976664To be fair they tried to nuke her first, she just returned the favor.
>>570998439It's weird how they blame the scientists who used nukes to defend themselves against a literal enemy of the world, instead of the actual enemy of the world who actually nuked nuked them. I guess the scientists should have just let her doing her rabitting in peace.World's fucked dood. I miss the previous world.
>>570998175stacking multiple realities and Identities into a single person at the same time, a painful experience that resulted in the fracturing of one's mind as it was pulled into different directions.
>>570998813Monster Girl Quest RPG Paradox's answer: Nothing! :D
So is the Master of Pleasure ability just useless? Endgame sexcraft and psychic skills already deal nightmare damage. Is it supposed to work like part 2 did where (iirc) adding the fire strike ability while using a weapon with fire strike gave you like +50% fire damage?
>>570998797The eggheads of San Ilias had access to the universes' database, and the thing they only thing they cared about was making a weapon that could kill all the monsters they shared the world with.Malice brings upon more malice.
>>570999358That's a retarded take to pretend they only cared about weapons.
>>570998969not even the basic ship of theseus or even dragon ball fusion of piccolo of kami and nail
>>570999358It seem non existance it the best fate for mgq world
This is an outrage. Prom doesn't have unique gears! And La Croix/Chrome and Kagetsumugi don't even have full gear!
I'm not sure what is rising those All Stats, it seems it's the Chaos Hero set, but I've seen it sometime lowering. God I'm such an autist.It seems that Horus is better than Tsukuyomi in term of stats, assuming that Omniscient count as Sage... which I doubt.
>>571002643i must headpat chaos
>>570999130I feel like Trtr has a weird idea where people would use weaker skills to conserve MP/SP when he made that for Psychic. At least Sexcraft has the few joke characters that do triple handjobs or whatever that arguably need it for their normal builds.
>>570999130Looking at it the ability seems like it would be useful it was unlocked for the tier before, or maybe it's there just as you begin to level up the job which is a kind of small window before it's redundant.
>>571015391You get it early on in pleasure adept, so you'd already have a couple nightmare skills between sexcraft and psychic. Honestly would've been a lot more useful if it made whip skills deal nightmare damage. Or just add more whip skills.>>571014275Trtr has a lot of weird ideas desu.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VarVuBaWP9wHarpyfags(and Alice) on suicide watch.
>>570972613>choosing people "worthy" of AW based on looks alone>sounds very corruptSub-Ilias does favor cuteness.
>>571018429...like delphinus angels
That image of Silkiel complaining that she can't be seen in public much made me feel bad for Delphinus angels. Making it sadder, many of them don't have ugly personalities
>>571016667You might have some nightmare skills but the question is if it covers the right role, in the end only trtr knows exactly what it was for.
Rape becomes a habit.A person who solves a problem through rape begins viewing it as a standard or convenient option for any future konflict.
>>571023668kamuro is too cute
You're dodging [Pleasure] attacks..?Must be tough being gae!~
>>571028102Instead of eating a dick why dont you grow one coward.
Where dreams update
>>571033821go to sleep
>>571018429Maybe Raphy had the right idea after all.
>>570926941You say that like it's not her selling point.
Look at this spectacular design.
>>571042682Praise Ilias!
>>571042682Its the exact same design as the other one.You meant artstyle.
>>571056127Ilias, light up this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5E9-FjYnNc
Was the Micaela scene a myth?I surrendered at the end of the final phase...
You know? I'm actually surprised Chaos doesn't have a crisis in her trait, at least for Chaos skills.Runaway Luka had that, FoC too, but not Chaos?This make me think they will got absolutely ham and give Chaos a new form who chains Holy > Dark > Holy > Dark > Chaos wth crisis on it all.
>>570465792Sorry anons, I've been away for a long time.Do we have good centaur games now?Last one I remember playing is about a princess that was being interviewed about the time she was turned into a centaur. She had some sex while trying to reach her castle. Don't remember the title.
>>571063517Speaking of Chaos, giving her the non-chaos element booster and overboosters is useless right? Since her trait make every non chaos elements into chaos element.
You can't Legendize the wedding gifts? But, why?
>>571059601yeah...
>>571066515The way I think it works (and I could be wrong) is that those types of traits basically let you use the normal element boosters like you would use chaos ones. Normally (I think), chaos element boosters boost normal elements as well. The trait allows normal element boosters to boost chaos ones as well at a discount. Also opens up the possibility of double boosting a chaos element.
>>570981445What happens to all of the people that dont have a counterpart to fuse with though? Do they all just die anyways? What if they're already dead? Is leaving it up to random chance any better?
>>571072675They get put into the reincarnation cycle.That is what I think they said.You die, but you don't get chaos'd into oblivion.
>>571073042that is for all intents and purposes dying anyways
>>571073145better than ceasing to exist
Don't beleieve the demiurge >>571073293 and his lies
>>571071138Thanks. Chaos is gonna be FILLED with Overboosters.
>>571073145>>571073293this is more or less how the final argument between the goddesses goes
I love getting dryfished and then reincarnating just to get dryfished again
AW and MW should have teamed up to make Judgement Breaker, the one who saves the worthy and sends the unworthy to the reincarnation circle to get a chance of becoming worthy.
>>571075756Luka...
>>570998813Big Bird mentioned
>>571077284That would be kino, but the game like to pretend that all lives are equal, and that most monsters deserve to live.But God forbid you came from Luddite Village, now this is the real bad shit. Rape, vore, guro, beating by monsters? It's good. By Humans? It's le bad.
>>571078464Sorry ludditard your own 'goddess' said you're retarded and vile scum.
>>571078464Nah, it's more male crimes = irrdeemable, female crimes = ok
>>571081632That's true!
>>571081632Better luck in monster boy quest then, sis
>>571081632>>571078464I still maintain its whatever Luka can get off too, if he doesn't like it, it won't exist for long
>>571082527Luka can get off to almost everything, including being guroed.So that mean Luka is a hypocrite forcing his views into the world! Rule for thee, not for me!
>>571077284>Judgement BreakerHe will apparently be it's own character in the future, except he's called Judgebreaker.
>>571081632Girls are coddled, yes. Its a femdom fetish world and very unbalanced by design.
>>571082878Good luck having people recognize that tho. I'm surprised no one cried yet about how Luddite perfectly had it coming, using great, and perfect arguments...
Maledomtards actually really come to a femdom porn game general and complain about females sexually dominating males.Lmfao
>>571083540>"Monster Girls are obligatory Femdom"The sexism in that post holy shit... I'm so disappointed.
>>571083718At this point yes they are. Feel free to prove me wrong though.
Monster girl media doesn't have to be any kind of of dom, you know.
And yet in reality monster girl games are almost always dom.
>>571083954...No? Like do you know how many games there are with Monster Girls?
>>571084225Post the dom and non-dom ratio.
>>571083779And so, Anons reached Nirvana.
...by denying facts and reality
Female sexual domination = goodPolitical and societal domination = badshrimple as
>>571083057Plenty of people have explained it to people like you before.You don’t care, because you’re just upset that everyone who died was male, even though they were also a bunch of stupid violent backwater rape-and-torture savages treating their goddess like some kind of pagan deity while their leader sat in an air conditioned luxury suite with his whore (who was also killed, iirc). Luka can throw violent revolutions that destroy slave trade routes and end human trafficking but CLEARLY, he’s bad for saying he *checks notes* regrets not getting to save Luddite and that the Lilith Trio were terrible to kill all the men that way because they deserved to be hung in human courts by mecha pope who was two days from doing that.
>>571085145I like how you conveniently forgot the women and childrens.I really like it because it proves my point. Girls do mean things, it's fine, men does mean things, it's bad.
>>571084442*crickets*
>> 571085318I like how you conveniently forgot how none of the woman or little girls died.I really like it because it proves my point. Which is that you’re a media illiterate retard who came to a game focusing on woman, and won’t stop bitching and morning about how the narrative claims all woman did nothing wrong, despite the narrative explicitly saying they did something wrong, which is why you fought them in the first place.
>>571060974There is no official Micaela H-scene in the VN, or even a monsterpedia entry. No CG's in the files. Surrendering right after she appears only has her speak a few words in disappointment, just like the HK's, though it does award an achievement (Got berated by Micaela).There's a custom-made paizuri scene for an NG+ mod with the original picture being from here (I think): https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/38184190
>>571084442I can't believe I'm doing this, since you'll probably say it doesn't count for one reason or another, but games like MGQ and sequel are a rarity. That's why people are very defensive of them.We got Black Souls, Venus Blood, Sphilia's Familiar, Era games, Rance has some too, Mercenary Adventure in fact most Takamakuran games like, From Frontier COULD count. And I'm just looking at what I got there.We can also talk about wegs, but we won't be doing that.
>>571085909And now, you move the goalpost with insults. You are such a good baby. Yes you are.>they did something wrongAnd you don't see them punished as much as Luditte. Curious.Baby learned his first words! You must feel soooo smart!
>>571086332We could even talk about non hentai.
>zero argument>“erm, calling me a retard is moving the goalpost!”>proceeds to use baby talk while writing ESLIt’s people like you that keep dragging down the quality of this site.>b-but why don’t I get to punish them?!They are punished. You’re just upset because to you any punishment that isn’t a demented revenge fetish fantasy automatically means they’re being coddled.
>>571086564Techically, Luddite Village was only targeted because of their absence in the OG timeline. Lilith could say there was something personal in her actions against them, but if that shithole was vital to keeping the Singularity World stable, they wouldnt have touched it.There was no punishment.
>>571086332Some of these are not even monstergirl games.>wegslol
>>571087970Called it.
>>571088034Nigga the discussion was about monstergirl games and you needed to add non monstergirl games to your list, use your brain next time.
>>571087470>no u>strawmanGod you are pathetic.>They are punishedThey aren't though? No one feel bad about. Lilith outright say that she had personal reasons for it aside from the fact that it needed ot be deleted because it wasn't here in the OG timeline. Though the sisters make it clear they didn't care one bit funnily enough.>that isn’t a demented revenge fetish fantasyThe guy from Succubus Village did have a demented revenge fetish fantasy... but funnily enough, you aren't talking about that. And you got the nerve to talk shit.You are such an entitled piece of shit.>>571087868Probably. I'm just pointing the double standard.
>>571087470>It’s people like you that keep dragging down the quality of this site.He will never admit this though. His cancerous presence is so obvious but he goes "nuh uh everyone else is bad I dundu nuffins."
>>571087868They do mention they don’t really feel guilty about killing it for the given reasons (and how the souls all just got funneled to MW anyway) but they do ultimately get punished in the long term for their behavior in a few ways.
>>571088162There ARE monstergirls, you just want to say I'm wrong.Or are we going to pretend that characters like Dodo, fairies, dragongirls, demongirls, onis, etc etc aren't monstergirls? You probably will.
>>571088554>There ARE monstergirlsSo WoW or LoL are monster girl games now? Fucking retard.
>>571088518>but they do ultimately get punished in the long term for their behavior in a few ways.Omoshiroi. How?
>>571088739There are Lamias and furries, or are we going to pretend that characters like Alma, Potato Mayor, Vanilla, Gob, and how many other, aren't monster girls, because most just have horns?Is MGQ even a monster girl game? A lot of the girls are just humanoid with accessories after all.It's as I said: you just don't want to say I'm right, you just wanted to feel smart by saying I'm wrong. Too bad you are shit at it.
>You are such an entitled piece of shitHe says, while screaming into the wind about how terrible it is that something didn’t go his way, and how unfair the treatment is in his eyes. Maybe don’t build strawmen if you don’t want people to shove them back on top of you. “No one ever made a great and perfect argument, because I’m the authority on that and I said so” is what your logic amounts to. There is quite literally not a single person ITT more entitled than you.Scream “no u” all you want. It’s simply the truth.And no I don’t care about the pathetic limp dicked whiner who died of shame from having to realize what it feels like when his own child gets beaten and raped.>>571088929Bodies filled with STDs/ parasites, the vast majority of the world hates them, the rest of the human populace was mindbroken by what happened and most of them either dread them with PTSD or cant go on living and want to die, and they’re forced to live with the knowledge that they essentially murdered a bunch of people and destroyed several towns for literally nothing and are pretty terrible individuals.Which, since it might be shocking for you to accept that they are in fact not actually a bunch of psychotic murderwhores, leaves them (Lilith in particular) incredibly depressed and self-hating since they don’t have the MW soul funnel + suicide mission to justify it anymore. Astaroth is also a drug addict. Their only comfort amounts to a combination of “I have to try and make up for it” and Minagi telling them they did the best they could and not to feel too horrible about it.>inb4 NO THATS NOT ENOUGHIt’s enough for me to see them miserable.
Oh Brother
>>571089471So you DO believe WoW and LoL count as monster girl games, I rest my case then, this is the average intelligence of "femdom bad" idiots.
Im just tired of seeing people simping over Luddite and acting like anyone who doesn’t feel bad for the place has to be white knighting for succubi.
>>571091383Way to miss the point, probably wilfully. Not my problem.
>>571091412>peopleit's literally 1 subhuman shitting up the entire thread
>>571091412I'm the same way, but think the monsters should have had the same thing done to them or at least a kill option, that would have put many grievances to rest
>>571090667I sincerely hope something bad happens to that shitposting subhuman who blames everyone else for his retardation so that he stops shitting up a general he doesn't belong to.
>>571090667I find it funny how you made it a purely me issue. As if no one has expressed grievances about it, probably missed the few posts above. All the while pretending I didn't put an argument, as if I'm acting entitled or asking them to go to Betreyela's funhouse. I'm just pointing the double standards of it all, and as expected, you came faster than Barry when kissing his girlfriend to spour your self-righteous long ass pages of rage.You speak as me being entitled, but you are so much more entitled, on top of thinking that only your opinion matters.>Bodies filled with STDs/ parasitesThey got cured. Though it musn't have been pleasant either way.>the vast majority of the world hates them, the rest of the human populace was mindbroken by what happened and most of them either dread them with PTSD or cant go on living and want to dieOnly a fraction of them.>Astaroth is also a drug addictShe was always a drug addict.>And no I don’t careThen why do you open your mouth if you aren't interested in talking? And are obviously placing your opinions above mine and everyone else while accusing me to do the same? Fuck off you hypocritical cunt.The /mggg/ in all it's glory! It doesn't like having anything criticized!>>571091412I'm not simping for it. No one is simping for it. I'm just pointing out the Double standards. A monster girls does that, they got off easy or aren't punished. But Luddite is apparently the Devil's Village, and the innocent that were caught in the fire.
Luka I know you're mindbroken, but you can have sex with a monster where you have a mutual power balance and affection instead of going aieeeeee three seconds in and making them feel bad.
>>571091507Your presence alone here is a problem actually.
>>571092270>n-n-n-no u
>>571092337Point proven.
If only the REAL Luka was here
>>571092465That's a blight. And after the blight
>>571092167Double standard?Name one monstergirl that actually beats up Luka and starves him to death in her scene.
Can we at least agree that the Echidna plot line was a terrible direction to take the lillith sisters in regardless if you like them or not
>>571092448Point proven that I proved you wrong, you didn't want to admit it, and then took a rhetorical in a convenient way to call it quit with an insult about femdom bad idiots. Even if I never said that Femdom was bad in the first place, just rarer than the normal stuff.
>>571092520He is one of my favorite Villains. Imagine fighting him, only to get whooped and then he says "I haven't used my powers, that was ALL me with no magic. And for my hottest take, Paradox wanted to be like Suikoden with the 108 stars of destiny and castle but had none of the flair for it. Seeing the castle being upgraded would have been cool
>>571092809The only thing you proved is that you're a low IQ shitposter who believes shit like "Rance is a monstergirl game".
>>571092698I'll do one better, I think Echidna was terrible in general.I liked going inside the body though, it could have been much better though, it's just too troublesome.
>>571090667>>571092167>Astaroth is also a drug addictDid I miss something? The only thing I remember her taking were antacids because she'd get ulcers from the stress of trying to play tardwrangler for her sisters despite being one herself.
>>571092913>"Rance is a monstergirl game".I said that Rance had Monstergirls, that was the whole point of the discussion. >>571084442 >>571084225Which lead back to what I've said, you don't want to admit I'm right... and you want to twist my words so you can look better. Good ragebait behavior, terrible for actualy discussion.
I do understand what trtr was trying to do with the Lillith sisters. Echidna is supposed to be an ironic comeuppance for them in terms of what they did with the harpies, and essentially forcing them to become murderers. My issue is twofold: It's a complete mind control and not just suggestion or impulsiveness, so it doesn't really say anything about the Lillith sisters as characters and narratively they're essentially absent until Echidna is defeated, wherein they come back and are now super sad and depresssed. Secondly, the lillith sisters aren't actually relavent in the plot at all past the echidna stuff, so forcing them to confront themselves as murderers doesn't mean anything because their plot is over. It's basically spitefully butchering them as characters only to toss them out
>>571092671I can do one better. Him being fucking devoured alive, pain and all. Blood Dragon? It was Blood Dragon right?Or what was the loss scene about Singularity?
>>571093408MGQ vore is not described as painful, so no.
>>571093239>I said that Rance had MonstergirlsAnd it has nothing to do with monster girl games general because monster girls are not the theme of the game. Again your low IQ makes you unable to see the difference.
>>571093556First, what kind of logic is that, second, DID YOU SEE THE SCENE?
>>571093731It's the MGQ universe logic.
>>571092671Still no equivalent shown, "double standards" huh?
>>571092879Luka Blight was a great villain. He was evil, mad, depraved, and has the style of it. He even got a tragic backstory that explain but doesn't excuse his behavior, an epic death with great dying words.>"It took hundreds to kill me but I killed humans by the thousands. I am sublime! I am the true face of evil!">And for my hottest takeI don't think it's a hot take actually. I wished the castle could get upgraded especially since Paradox take inspiration from Suikoden, even if it's a joy to see the caslte being more and more crowded.Though the castle does get upgraded, somewhat, with very lame zones. The Sealed Tower and Corridor of Chaos are just so sad and empty of anything. And was it really necessary to make the Corridor so large too?
Please wait warmly
>>571093556Bloody's is definitely painful, anon. She melts Luka in a pool of blood until he's a skeleton. Not dry fish skeleton, spooky skeleton. Maybe there's pleasure in it, but it'd probably be the cenobite style of pain is pleasure.
>>571093709Twisting the topic and my words further won't make you look like the winner any time soon. Cry about it.
>>571094262Post the dialogue then.
>>571094083I posted it already. >>571093408Blood Dragon literally melted Luka, alive, unto a skeleton. And not in the vore sense. It's horrible. It's terrible. And I'm still shuddering from it. I'm not sure if it's worse than Kanon's Garden or not.
>>571094316You don't even remember your own shitposts, of course you'd think that. Still can't post the ratio of dom nondom monstergirl games btw. You got schooled, sit down kid.
>>571094262Oh my goodness anon, you're attacking his argument wrong, that's why he specifically worded it like that. You should have asked him if it would have been better to lace and drug them with aphrodisiacs like monsters do instead before beating and starving them so that they get off of them.
>>571092167You are acting entitled.And you have no argument.Also you complain about “no you” but this is mostly just you seething about how people don’t agree either you and using the thing you were complaining about. I never said my opinion was the only one that mattered, that just sounds like projection. I just don’t respect your opinion because it’s a very childish and inarticulate one cobbled together from not actually comprehending the game.And yes they have STDs, they had them before echidna even. And Astaroth doesn’t turn to hard drug like opioids from Priestess until the stress from all their stuff starts getting to her. She was always one but she gets increasingly worse.>only a fractionnopeAlso>anon brings up the luddtard and calls it disingenuous to not bring him up>point out I don’t care about the cowardly child beating rapist, because I don’t feel sorry for him in the slightest, and if you’re trying to use him for moral high ground you already lost>cuts off the rest of the sentence about not caring to describe how I am a hypocrite who must clearly have no interest in discussion>then postulates about how everyone who doesn’t agree with him just hates to be criticizedpoetryIt’s not double standards to say I think both parties involved aren’t good people and I don’t feel bad for them.
>>571094593>You don't even remember your own shitpostsI literally shown you the starting posts, are you pretending to be retarded, or just actually retarded?Unless you genuinely wanted a precise, ratio somehow, expecting me to be a computer?
>>571094503>Blood Dragon literally melted Luka, alive, unto a skeletonMany monstergirls have scenes like that. Can't even guarantee the pain.And how is that "beating him up to death" or "starving to death" scene?
>>571094174He also was a great leader with how his White wolves were so loyal to him because he led from the front>>571094174Good base building in RPGs are a lost art
>>571094503There are about three more that are as, or more horrifying than that. Gnosis, the MW Super Worm Summoner, and Singularity.The first two are not pleasant, and never will be pleasant. Singularity is probably the most freakish depiction of dryfishing in the game, and is not pleasant at all.
>>571094796The only thing you've shown is that you're too retarded to understand what a ratio is.
>>571094946>Singularity is probably the most freakish depiction of dryfishing in the game, and is not pleasant at all.I think it's on par with Minagi's scene in the OVA, but even then the painful part is debatable.
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>>571094770I'm seething because I have an idiot taking things way too far talking and insulting me, as if he was the professional of the business, while projecting all his bad points unto me.>And Astaroth doesn’t turn to hard drug like opioids from Priestess until the stress from all their stuff starts getting to her. She was always one but she gets increasingly worseWrong. The moment she joing, she ask for drugs.>nopeYes.Kindly kill yourself, you collosal, self important, faggot.>>571094824>And how is that "beating him up to death" or "starving to death" scene?Anon, do you perhaps think that those are worse than Blood Dragon's scene or something?
Just watched it. No mentions of pain, surprisingly. Luka's definitely fucking terrified though.
>>571095391>No mentions of painTold you so.
This entire thing is a stupid argument, Luka is a turbo beta, if an MG kicks him in the balls he's going to cum
>>571094946You'd have a point with Gnosis, but llias said angels are not monsters so...
>>571095241>insults for me, but not for theeis it your time of the month or somethingalso holy cajoles is this some next level projection>she was always a drug addict, she just gets increasingly worse>WRONG! She was ALWAYS a drug addict!wellcome on, nowthat’s just poor reading comprehension
