Visual Novel General #7661This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>570458923
First for Sherry
*lick*
Love is nothing but lust misspelled.
>>570499368>Love is nothingIt seems you need a lesson...
Why do all the boys on the island want to fuck Ao? I don't really get it.
>>570499451I will strike you harshly on buttocks with my massive teaching stick
Sawatari Coco if she real
Why do Finnish girls always end up being the best heroines in their respective games?
>>570499967Never happened.
>>570500006Ayachi Nene is Finnish.
>>570499967We may never know.
>>570500190Holy sex
>>570498947Pinks won
>>570500190Not even top 2
>>570500649Nobody says this.
>>570499479Midnight beach picnic date sounds kino. In reality bugs would probably ruin it but still.
>>570499463They don't though
Pinked.
nya~
MUMBAImasa
>>570501212Then who do they want to fuck...
>>570501408They have sex with men, like JOPs
>>570501194That's a horrible translation.
>>570501408I can't mention one of them because it's a route spoiler, but Tenzen loves boobies
>>570501909I did see it in the Common RouteShizuku does seem kind of seductive and flirty when she goes "You're a bad boy, Kano-kun." Maybe she likes him back?
>>570501909Kotarou with long hair
>>570501297This is probably the closest another imouto heroine has become kino, but still falls short behind Sora and Akiha.
>>570502095Yeah, that's the obvious one. To answer your question, no. There are bigger fish to fry in her route than some WA2-lite drama
Pantsu
>>570502996I think Shizuku and Tsumugi are a lot better in the VN. Tsumugi is a lot more charismatic and Shizuku has a sexy mysterious flirty seductress vibe that's absent in the anime.
>>570501850Do shooting stars bring out your inner retard?
I like being cucked!!
>>570503553Kageaki...
>>570503553Hmm...It actually is kind of shitty that Hairi dates and fucks Shizuku even though Tenzen is in love with her...You're an NTR protag
>>570503048Buenas Tardes America!
>>570503128>Tsumugi is a lot more charismatic>that's absent in the anime.Haven't watched it yet, but that's a shame. You can only fit so much into a tv series adaptation, so it's understandable that the least important characters get less screentime and characterization. But that also makes it a lot easier to consume the full narrative (when compared to 100+ hours of reading)
Lucia is a miracle of the universe.
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/288672376/#p288701777
>>570503957Umi also seems like kind of a generic child in the anime. Was surprised to see in the VN that she's precocious and uptight.
>>570503149Lunacy could be called a sort of retardation if you will
>>570503825Boa noite da maior comunidade de visual novels das Américas.
>>570504154Maybe in genius country.
pii
>>570503707Love is complicated. It's not much of a betrayal when it's a bro that you've known for only a few weeks and barely talk with
>>570504154Maybe on planet retard.
>>570504183Interesting contrast. The director cut some corners it seems
Today I learned that クルッポー is the sound that pigeons make in Japanese
>>570504721The sound of the customers
>>570504721
>>570501002i say this
is there prob with torrents and trackers lately?
>>570504183That translation frankly reads like something MTL unedited would spit out.
>>570505346Works on my machine
>>570505557Still better than NegroNyan
>>570499138
>>570504154I love her so much bros...
elina did it better
hiro needs dick
>>570506189Elina's a midget with small tits. Kanna mogs.
>>570499138Not even best girl in her game
>>570506296yeah my dick in her asshole hows that for tadashii
>>570506339HOT COLLEGE VIRGIN
>>570506362
>>570506505I wonder how the official will translate tadashii... I just hope they won't use something like "correct."
>>570506619Fax!
>>570506362anal sex is very tadashikunaianus is for evacuation of poopvagina is for inseminationvaginal sex is tadashii
>>570506182>>570506296Sex
>>570506297both of those things are hot though
>>570506619Precisely.
>>570507073Don't lie, you would.
>>570508353Fuck his mouth sure, but anything more is gay
>>570508353Not cute enough to be a trap
>>570507073every time I look at the thumbnail I think he has no arms
>>570508407I would rather be him...
>>570508832Battler..
>>570508353Not gay but I'd shoot buckets into that bussy.
>>570508943Kageaki...
This line can't be right.
>>570509542why do they look like bugs
Cute!
>>570509721Why don't you?
do i read amanatsu today
>>570510678Reread fureraba instead
>>570510678The sweltering heat of summer awaits you.
>>570510847truth nuke
>>570508353I wouldn't. I would definitely Riruru and futa Ayana though.
>>570511160
>>570509542literal fanfiction
>>570509773literal fanfiction
You reading this now are literal fanfiction too
>>570511739>>570511856literal melty
Qruppo status?
>>570512225You reading this now should just MTL too
>>570512414Uncertain
The Nukitashi dub is unironically better than the original.
>>570512225>>570512456Dishonest.
/vn/ does not care about the world cup.
>>570513052more like the world CRAPha ha ha ha
>>570511254Hell yeah, It's my own Kino.
>>570513052>soccercringe>dive grassBASEDjop gatekeeping.webm
>>570513052No World Cup team has HFK so why should I care?
>>570512874Honest.
Any vn with aspiring soccer star heroine?
>>570513342Deadass. On god. frfr
>>570513471Baldr Sky ChinatsuIt doesn't work out
What JOPge should I read next?
>>570513695Noratoto
>>570513695Z.A.T.O
>>570513695LLLJ
>>570513695nikuniku
>>570513052
The mega-slut swimsuit covers her better than her SS uniform lol
>>570514103>the ugandian knuckles balltop kek
>>570515441doesn't cover her lower half as well
Unexpected, I thought it was just a disguise
>>570515441Why are there no rimjobs in this ge?
New word obtained.
>>570516070Why do you have a shit eating fetish, Karenschizo?
>>570516564There's baby play in the second game which is arguably more degenerate than eating ass. I don't want to hear your bullshit.
>>570516525She won so fucking hard
>2 weeks reading the same route
>>570516789That's what happens if you do not read
Actual winner and life-changer
We need more rimjob heroines!
>>570516653>being pampered like a baby is more degenerate than licking shit from unwashed assholes
>>570515186What the hell did I miss? kek
>>570516934That's a very nice image actually
Imoutos should never rim their nii-san
>>570513052Por favor, façam silêncio nas áreas reservadas para drag queens enquanto os deuses do futebol agraciam Nova York com sua presença.
>>570517383majiamigo...
>>570515978What happened to blog posting in that jp thread? Missed us and came back?
>>570516938Fumika mindbroke yuzubros.
A rimjob is the greatest display of love a heroine can do for you. If you hate rimjobs, you might be a homosexual.
>>570517528I prefer /vg/ archive
Imagine a heroine giving kisses to your anus...
>>570516938After totsuraba many are clamoring this
>>570517746Dishonest, pathological liar.
>>570515441>Misaki is sympathetic to Jun's complex over his dick being seen, so she deepthroats him to hide it when the announcer is focused on their groupWhat an angel...
Rimjobs should be standard in every heroine route. Should be common as a blowjob scene.
>>570517968KINO
pink should be standard in every heroine route
My rimjob queen...
every heroine should have a penis
>anal play without establishing that an enema was taken firstUtterly disgusting and unhygienic
milk and yellow for KANG
>>570518209Anime characters don't poop unless it's Sei Shitjo ge
>>570518260who is kang
>>570518313and asashit
Re zero was a mistake
>>570518558more like reddit zero
Do you like giving rimjobs or receiving?
AIsir owes me a rimjob
>>570509542>シェリーは目をキラキラと輝かせ、 完全に童心に帰っている表情だ。>Sherry's eyes are sparkling, and her expression returns to one of complete childlike wonder Seems like an accurate and appropriate localization to me. No complaints.
>>570518558I can't believe witch factors also exist in Totsuraba.
>>570518558Still a better story than reddit;gate.
>>570515978>[Return by Death]>Red Eyes>White HairThere's a good chance he's a child of two mothers.
A rose befitting a KANG
>>570518313True
>>570519205Dishonest. Stop defending your translation you troonslator.
Poof, here is some oppai. Enjoy.
>>570520379Big oppai are dishonest. Only flat chests can be honest.
>>570520379Ego-edited picture, stop this dishonesty.
>>570520648I know some of these words.
>>570519841My opinion of most time travel plots has dropped over the years. I used to think re:zero and steins;gate were both quite good but now I can't think of them at more than a 7/10 at best, maybe lower. Nothing removes the weight of the events of a story like time travel does.
>>570519205This is dishonest ego-editing.
clochettege tl... onegai...
Just JOP it.
what's best drip for kang?
>>570515186Add all the posts reacting to (1/16) kek
anyone want to try translating thishttps://vndb.org/v58310/cv
wheres my schizopost
>>570522327AIsirs, onegai...!
>>570522443Things we cant have in current time: Loli heroines in yuzu ge
Holy shit Maylenes Lucario is no joke, that was close even with my perfect IV and EV trained team
Big brained sequence. No wonder people compared it to jojo in terms of fight ingenuityMeh though, can't focus at all,should just leave it for tomorrow.
>>570523020main girl was a loli in reboot
>>570523020yuzu lolis suck so nothing of value lost
>>570523221>can't focus at alladhdsister...
Wasted all his energy arguing about Manosaba fan tl
>>570523398GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
Wasted all my semen on oppai
>>570523935Should have saved it for lolige
One hour into Nekopara.The game keeps reminding me, catgirls are not humans. It talks about "strays", treats them as pets or possessions, has them call the protagonist "Master".And yet they speak the same language we do.They express emotions, desires and preferences.They form friendships and attachments.They clearly possess self-awareness and distinct personalities.So I can't but ask myself - I'm reading of something who's intelligent, self-aware, capable of language and emotion... exactly in what meaningful sense is it "not human"?... Cat ears? Tail flipping around?Were it not for Philip K. Dick, I'd be reading Nekopara thinking: "Aww, cute catgirl making biscuits!"Instead, tonight at 2AM I'll be still wondering whether Chocola dreams of electric mice.
>>570524002there's no more lolige
>>570524002I've actually been thinking of finding one, to try and restore balance to the force. None of the ones I've looked at seem interesting, though.
>>570524019Tell yourself if catgirls can dream of sheep
>>570523398Is it even that bad? From the looks of it, he's the only one disatisfied with the translation.
>>570523935Should've saved it for ketsu.
The emperor of penguins is fit for a KING
>>570524309You see, Coco talks like how a zoomette heroine would talk in the HuTL.
>>570524396HFKKKK
should i read low spec?
need a new vinnie that makes me feel something
>>570524490Go to prison
I need more vns like kurukuru fanatic where every heroine is psychotic
>>570524396My favourite monI even go out of my way to catch one in Legends.
>>570524561Hentai Prison?
>>570524680Stinky hobo girl.
>>570524462Is it even human? I heard there's been some controversy around it.
>>570524626I wish someone would just *snip* the pointy ears down to size.
>>570524680She doesn't even realize that maou is right in front of her, lol
>>570524372Rimming this ass for hours
>>570524680Bin laden...
>>570524735That’s not Karen THO
asa-chan's concave tummy
>>570527384Imoutos deserve sex
>>570524605based
>>570524019>One hour into NekoparaThat was your first mistake.
>>570524019was the reddit spacing necessary?
>>570528179dumb newfag
>>570524549SnF
>>570520709Ever 17 is a better time travel story than S;G
>>570528303NO ONETYPESLIKETHIS HEREDUMBTROONNEWNIGGERKILLYOURSELF
>>570528438uh oh newfag melty
>doesn't even realize I was mocking xir yup mark of a newfaggot
Re zero >>>>>> Steins gate anytime
Somehow, I became a tummyfag through no specific action of my own volition. I have no idea why. I only realized it because VNs almost always cover the tummy when the heroine is only partially undressed during sex, and it pissed me off.
>>570529617I have literally always been a tummyfag
it's Ramses
Rem or Emilia?
Another badge for the KANG. Our journey to be the very best there ever was continues!
>>570529110That's an unpopular opinion if I've ever seen one.
Challenging the KING again? When will you learn Aisir? BAKA
>>570530242Why are you like this?
>heroine's child isn't a clone of herCute!
>>570530998>things I'll never have in lifeI don't know why I get so depressed when I see endings like this.
>>570531401>things no one should ever haveyou should feel good
>>570531457What is the meaning of life if not to spread your genetic material?
>>570530998That's another new pink woman to have sex with in the future
New to vns, came from hgg2d after running out of soulful eroge. In a manic episode I seem to have went down the rabbit hole and somehow started learning jp and reading monobeno. Now I don't know if the happiness I feel when playing is enough to offset the crippling emptiness that seems to come after. What am I doing with my life...
>>570531826Get a job and wife
>>570530998common pink w
>>570531826Learning Japanese is one of the most fulfilling experiences in life. It also helped me get laid one time at a con so really there's no downside.
>>570531498to read vinnies
>>570531826read fureraba
>>570532034>>570530998That's enough evidence to conclude that the pink gene is recessive.
>>570532002Lol no
>>570532131we need a pink ethnostate NOW
>>570532217This but unironically. If blondefags can get Kinkoi. And shirokamifags have Aojashin. When can pinkfags get a pinkge?
>having kids
>lolige has a "post to twitter" buttonYeah, no. not that i have a twatter account to begin with
>>570532401coward
>>570532304Yes.
>>570531401Yeah... scenes like this make me feel a bit melancholic from deep pangs of envy.
>>570532304Normalfags find meaning in that shit for some reason
>>570532401Do it faggot!
>pegginghttps://files.catbox.moe/r8xybj.jpgbruh... I can't fap to the idea of getting pegged by my mom.
>>570532295pinkoi...
>>570530998>>570532034>>570532553>>570532879How dare you torment me like this.
>>570532794HolyFuckingKino
>>570532794Why is she doing that to you
>>570532642no way fag
うんち
>>570533143>purée gyarukek this never gets old
>>570533797It's MC's "reward" for putting on a chastity cage and wearing his mom's panties for a cross dressing maid cafe at his school festival.
>>570534146She's punishing him for breaking gender norms?
>>570534308KWNBAP
Tell me a game that will inflict feels.
>>570531826It happens when all you do is consoom like a goy slave and not contribute or create something.
>>570534661Lessons in Love
>>570534743this shit world doesn't deserve my superior creations
>>570534661Steins;Gate
>>570534637it's pride month chud, we are accepting of any trans gtps
>>570534637>KWNBAPWhat does this mean
>>570533950What were the arguments that this is MTL again?
>>570534753>>570534907I didn't mean indigestion.
>>570534976It came out in the last two years, ipso facto, it was MTL'd.
>>570534976It's MTL except for Coco's lines which the creator decided to hand mutilate
>>570534976Nothing. It's just one schizo on a crusade against the translator. He can't decide whether it's MTL or liberal translation.
>>570535182That I can't argue with.>>570535224I asked for proof, not for which was what.>>570535419Hmm, but the allegations do have to come from somewhere, right? You don't calla translation MTL unless you've got damning evidence.
>>570535743I'm pointing out that you can't point at a Coco line as evidence he didn't MTL it (like >>570533950) because he went out of his way to rewrite those lines onlyAnyway a vndb mod decided that a reddit post was enough evidence to label it MTL
>>570535743>>570535929The only proof is their reddit post history where they engaged with LLMs
>>570535929Coco isn't the only character with a distinct voice though. If the theory is he MTL'd everything except the lines people would notice then he'd have to manually rewrite thousands of lines across multiple characters which is just translating the gameAnd you literally said it yourself, a reddit post was enough to get it tagged. Not a single line from the actual TL. That's the issue
we need a name for this MTL guy, it's too hard to refer to himAIsir, any suggestions?i guess we could just use his reddit username
>>570536193This. And the reddit posts were about using Claude to read CN and KR webnovels he couldn't read on his own and asking which model was better for it. One post was him venting about losing access to a model he liked. None of them mention Manosaba or anything related to it. The vndb mod saw "he used Claude" and stopped reading
>>570536467we should call him ntranon
>>570536467There's already a name though and it's AIgod
>>570536467Manosaba anon?
>>570536193>>570536347>>570536518Dishonest.
So JOPs are not supposed to use AI for anything or else their JOP rights will be revoked?
I don't care about anyone except kimikabro
>>570536674I use AI to translate English VNs to Japanese, what am I?
>>570536720He's not gay and he already has a foidfriend so leave him alone
>>570536531that name's reserved buster
>>570536637No offense sir, but no u. He may be an AI cuck, but he's the kind of cuck I can tolerate if he only uses AI on stuff that don't matter (Chinese and Korean products).
>>570524019Cat girls are SUBHUMANS
>>570536770I'll take over once she cheats on him
>No, I won't take my meds.Based!
>>570536625I'm already ManosabaAnon
>>570536973Drugging Meruru and raping her
>>570537001I refuse to call him GodUrgotKappa. What the fuck does that even mean?
>>570537119
pinks
>>570537418Vile creature.
Margot if she real.
>>570498947>pink showing off her pantiesJust what you'd expect of a pink.
wait wtf why's my tripcode different>>570537571shut up
>>570537272Meruru kinda looks like Atri.
>youngest heroine>only one to get a direct fanservice shotKEYbros???
>>570537661
>>570537675>>570537418Pinkbro let's frot while appreciating pinks
>>570537440is he right? don't be dishonest
Which pokemon ge should I blogpost?
IT'S 9 O CLOCK ON A SATURDAY>>570537872no
What if Ema asked Hiro to play a card game where the loser obeys the winner's commands, knowing that Hiro is too proud to refuse and too strict to not obey the condition if she loses, and then tries to use that as a way to force Hiro to team up with her so they can put their hatred aside and work together, but then Ema starts cheating in order to win but Hiro comes up with a plan to counter her cheating and they spend 80% of the route playing card games? Could be kino.
>>570537907>no;_;
Confess.
>le chuuni pose
>>570520379Finally, a good post in /vn/.
My favorite anon came
>>570538118literal fanfiction
I HATE PINKSI prefer silver-haired women.
if her tits are bigger than her head it's disgusting
>>570538298delete this
I'm, too, am a Manosabanon.
>>570538303hidoi
>>570538357Your namglish is showing
>KaleidoworldThis is either going to be really, really stupid or make me cry.Knowing KEY, potentially both?
>>570537968I'd gladly read that, especially if it's a long mahjong sequence instead
Post-kamige emptiness...
>>570538695just reread fureraba
>>570538410Oi! That's my reaction image that is! Stealing reaction images is illegal! Make your own!
>>570538736I actually took that one myself
>>570537968They should give Manosaba the Hundred Line treatment and just keep generating new routes like the Comedy route and the Serial Battles route and the Cult route. I'd read them all, just have the girls do wacky stuff
>>570538641Look anon you're not getting the joke, the joke is that I keep saying "wouldn't it be cool if this happened in Manosaba" and then describe something that happens in Ooe.
Holy shit, no wonder she doesn't want to go to school.
>>570538969
Copyright every image of a pink woman.
>>570538880Now I feel embarrassed...
>>570539110Copyleft these public whores
>>570538969how would anyone get a reference or a joke if you reference a game that no one (besides you), not a single person, has ever played or will ever play?
These trials are legit making me feel retarded. I've been wrong every time on whodunit. Stumped every time & have to make 10+ random guesses, trying every permutation, before going through.None of the murders so far has been as retarded or intricate as see-saw tulpa man in Danganronpa v3.
>>570539313I didn't say it was a good joke.
>>570539374Don't worry, at least one is much stupider.
>>570538969Sorry, I don't read gay porn.
>>570538939I'd read the Witch-on-Witch violence route.
Good night, /vn/
>>570518209just push it in deeper before attempting the rimjob first girls.
I have no idea where I'm going either, Sherrybro...
This thread is now under my control and authority.
>>570539843I wish they streamlined the trial mechanics a bit more. You click on pink text but it's kinda random whether it's gonna be an agree or disagree.
I am working on a youtube video: "the history of AGP in visual novels". When I finally release it please don't forget to watch it, k?
>>570539374It's okay anon. Trial 2 was pretty convoluted. You might not be an idiot.
>>570540062SEX
>>570540241The gameplay mechanics in manosaba really aren't good and it'd probably be better if they were taken out.
>there will never be another vn character as cool as Erina.
>>570540994onaho
>>570534661Fate/Stay Night.
>>570534661Fate/Grand Order
>>570541258FGO taught me about love.
>>570541225The feel of reaching through the screen and killing all the characters yourself because of how annoying they are?
>>570541310We love the FSN cast here. (Except Rin.)
I like Ciel!
>>570541446Ciel was the best Tsukihime heroine.
ba-kaaaaw
>>570541508God I want her to make that expression at me so bad as she forces me to wear a chastity cage.
>part in the vn where you're listening to the heroines change clothes together through the door>long voiced-only section>voices kind of quiet>playing vn on a tablet>pick up tablet and hold it to my ear>makes it feel more like i'm actually spying on themThat was an oddly serendipitous, immersive moment.
>>570541446Blue Mash!
>>570539110they're all mine already
>>570541625I have images of pinks you've never even heard of.
>>570541545Anything goesExcept love confessions.
>>570541583
>>570539110This is the best pink.
>>570542035You realize you can just start a thread on /a/ right?
ざこ
>>570542169I want a girl to make fun of my pathetic masochin so bad bros...
>>570541625and you're mine mihiro cutie
>>570542387He already has someone he loves!
>Manosoba chapter 3 spoilersholy kek this is some Kaiji shit NOOOOOO SHERRY WAS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER! FUCK!!! Sherryling, I thought we were homies, man. Ride or die. wtf top 10 anime betrayals. I'm crying, man!
>>570542243Fly over to 日本 and hire gemiko to give you a first-class MSGK wakarase experience in-person.
>>570542387>>570542427both wrong
>>570542534got another one
>>570542534You didn't realize the houses would be swapped from the moment they introduced three identical houses?
>>570542427And who is that?
>>570542534Definitely NOT ego-edited dialogue.
>>570542682Honestly I kinda think Gemiko is overrated, she's good but she's not the best ever. There's plenty better. Soramame, for example.
>>570542824Do kids these days listen to Sex Pistols?
Is there a reason why posters here act like sissies with the exception of kageakibro?
>>570542989
real leak of the picture milia's friends disseminated around her school
>>570543116God I want to fuck her so bad and then we'd swap bodies the moment I came inside her.
>>570542930They did when I was in high school 20 years ago.
>>570543156Why not swap bodies before the sex?
>>570543156ew
>>570543156
>>570543156Why? What kind of bizzaro fantasy is this?
>>570542960Kageakibro just watches.
>>570543156KEK
>>570543223It's a band from 50 years ago, so that would be surprising too.
>>570542698Uhm how can the first one be wrong when I decided it?
Do you like it when a girl makes this face?
I've shilled Muramasa to every person I know irl
>>565875606
>>570543481that's my post!Wowzers, I'm /vn/ famous!
>>570543461i have never successfully made a girl make this face
>>570543541I could be your first >_<
>>570543298While putting it that way does make it seem rather old, I think stuff like that is still audibly "modern" music.
>>570543481Moeanon....
>>570543618Isn't that girl a little small? You are reading pedoshit, Kageakibro?
>>570543508>I'm /vn/ famous!Not until you write us a 16-part review
>>570543057This may be one of the top butts I've seen.
>>570543582you would have to be a girl, first
>>570543689Imo it looks pretty ass
>>570543689Yeah she has a stellar ass.
>>570543781It's pride month bro. I am a real girl and you will have to respect that.
>>570543826rimjob patch doko
>"You're eager," she purred, stepping aside to let me in. >"Yes, mommy," I replied, the word now feeling natural and thrilling on my tongue. I kicked off my shoes and followed her into the living room.>She'd prepared it for our scene. The coffee table had been pushed to the side, and in its place was a large, plush baby playmat, the kind with colorful, crinkly textures and little attached toys. On a small side table, a stack of items was neatly arranged: a large pack of adult-sized diapers, baby powder, lotion, and a few other things I couldn't quite make out.>"Today," she began, her voice taking on that firm, maternal tone that drove me wild, "we're going to have a full playtime session. You're going to be my little baby all afternoon. But first," she said, turning to me with a raised eyebrow, "babies don't wear big boy clothes. Take everything off. Right now."Heroines like this?
>>570543791Imagine having sex with a femboy that had a bussy like this...
>>570543675All the heroines are high school students or adults, so it's about the same as other games in that regard. There is one loli but I don't think you can have sex with her, or at least there's been nothing to indicate that.
>>570544010Bwo...that's not what a bussy is...you've just embarrassed yourself as a larper, you're not a real homosexual.
>>570544249>that's not what a bussy is.Explain?
>>570543461Yeah, I love yanderes. Yanderes are poggers.
You reading this you're awesome.
>>570544010>femboyWhy not just fuck trannies who at least try to pass instead of these larpers who just wear striped socks and amazon basics and look like fags
What's the best surprise NTR scene you've seen in a plotge?
Are we sure lil is actually anti groomer VN like the writer claims it is? The screenshots posted and the way anons talk about the girls in it tell a different story.
>>570545253unlike zoomers, it's intelligent enough to understand that grooming being bad and loli being hot can both be true
>>570543791HOLY 尻...I might have to download this.
>>570545473>and loli being hot Loli heroines do not exist on LiL though
>>570545253It doesn't present anything you're doing as being good (if anything it's the opposite). That doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable to do it, though.
>>570545524You should read the first two VNs in the series first.
Do you prefer NTRge with a male or a female MC?
>>570545558starting to think your english is bad not because you're esl, but because your iq is room temperature
>>570545473It failed if it didn't make you feel bad about grooming
>>570545558Is this Lessons in Taboo Village?
>>570545659Male, female MC sucks.The ideal ntrge format is male MC that never finds out and as you play you unlock scenes in the gallery.
Why are single mothers like this?
>>570545658I do like girls with guns...
>>570545253Literally no one who plays it takes its themes about abuse and grooming seriously. It's just an excuse for plot and events.
>thirteen chapters into route>suddenly a new outfit
>>570545691>you're eslHonesty I don't know why you people think this is such an insult, I guess knowing more than a single language is a sign of retardation now... That kind of insult doesn't work as much as you'd think outside of Burgershot Gringoland
>tfw all the adult characters are younger than you
>>570546278total lack of comprehension. fuck off from here if you can't understand english, you're just wasting everyone's time
>>570546393Leave? I would never abandon my biggest fan
Why is this lowercase liltard always angry
Honestly, full credit to Nijima Yuu. He's set things up pretty well so I know there's going to be some sort of tragic twist once they reach KALEIDOWORLD and meet Aino's mom but I have no idea what that tragic twist is going to be. Always nice to have a naKEYge where you can't immediately see where things are going.
>>570546229lolisex
>>570546694Hired by selebus himself to police /vn/
>>570546738>KALEIDOIs that a Kaleido Star reference?
>>570546679This girl looks like she can command people to [post off-topic].
>>570547251Off topic is kino
Aw dammit, I knew this was gonna happen.
>>570547251She's very serious about her notebook
>>570547541More of Green An-An please.
>>570547517>>570546738Can I collect your jop tears and then sell them on the black market?
>>570547725You would slather your dick with those tears and beat it
Aw dammit it's a lip lipples. And like six other VNs, including a couple from KEY. How did I not see this coming? It's so obvious, in retrospect. >>570547725JOP tears could never be sold on the black market. They're priceless.
All those spoilers are some spooky stuff
>>570547665Surprise! you fell into her trap
I will never read keyshit so the spoilers don't bother me. I prefer reading vns with human-like characters, like Umineko, to those with characters that are nothing but otaku tropes.
So her soul is in the pendant and KALEIDOWORLD is how to fix it, I guess?God I hope this is one of the routes that has a happy ending, so far it's not completely imposisble unlike some of the others.
>>570546694bro's just trying to be quofwe lowercase community disowns him
>>570548402Is floodtroon your current leader?
aaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>570548458yeah he's the defacto il duce
Whoever said to read Spica's route first, you were totally right, now I'm not confused by the magic superstorms that keep trying to kill people.
>>570548484>aaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAWhen a job shoves a dildo up his ass
So our local JOPs are going to translate Anemoi for the rest of us, right?
Kimura-san is just my brother from another 2D mother
P E R S O N A >>570549014Fan-translating a KEY game seems like a wasted opportunity cost. KEY is one of those companies that's 100% guaranteed to have every new release translated officially, same as Yuzusoft or Asapro. I mean you can do it, but you could also do a different VN and now two vns have one translation instead of one vn having two.
>>570549135Your 2D mother birthed 2 virgin losers? God I hated this guy.
>>570549014It will stay untranslated forever likely. No way that Visual Arts will translate another big VN into english after what english fantranslators did to Summer Pockets.
Yeah you should definitely read Spica's route first and Aino's route second as they explain why so much supernatural nonsense goes down in Masumi Town.
We need a platform where brothers can share extracted VN scripts and upload it which will trigger a batch job that will translate the entire script and make it available for other brothers who can then edit it in a verizon tracking system if they have write access. MTL efforts are scattered and there's no centralized hub where brothers can plan and share this stuff with other brothers.
>>570549382huge waste of time, anybody can mtl any vn in ten seconds already, people who make mtl patches are idiots wasting their own time to produce something nobody will read because anyone who wants to read an mtl will do it themselves
>>570549450This will reduce token wastage and not everyone has skills to extract script files and using luna to translate it line by line is pretty inefficient.
>trip's still reading manosaba
>>570549245>No way that Visual Arts will translate another big VN into english after what english fantranslators did to Summer Pockets.What? Because the fan translators made a better patch than they did?
You FUCKS how can you do this to me ;_;It's not even like she's going to die
>>570549382>a fucking github for translations
>>570549382Vibe code your "platform" and get the whole thing hacked because you don't know what you're doing, just like the MTL kiddies.
I HATE KEYI HATE KEYI HATE NIJIMA YUUI HATE KEYAAAAAA GOD FUCKING DAMMIT( ;´꒳`;) AAAAAAA
>>570549730I don't appreciate the tone you are using
>the new b&b ge has a br momGod please no, dont make play another one of their ges, every single time they manage to bait me into playing one of their ges, I end up dissapointed.Why did they do this to me, I dont want to fall for their bs again
>>570549730I'm a professional SDE at a big corpo tho
>>570549654Because fantranslators destroyed the sales of the official release by sniping the release and then some "people" couldn't help themselves and read the godawful fantranslation and then posted spoilers of all twists all over the internet.I hate fantranslators so much who can't help picking VNs that get official translations.
>>570549245What was it that fan TLers did? The line above from SP sounds like MTL, with word repetitions in a single sentence, though it was released before MTL was considered "good". Unless a translator is named explicitly, the assumption should be that studios use MTL anyway for new official VN translations.
That's Aino's route done.It's such bullshit, they killed her off TWICE and she STILL lived and yet they STILL totally fucking got me and I cried again.Admittedly, one part I'm a little disappointed in is how rushed the ending is. I was hoping we'd get more scenes with Aino-san, showing her relationship with Mugi, her road to recovery, how things progressed for her, but they just timeskipped over several years to let you know it all worked out and then she never got to speak with Mugi once. Maybe something for a Reflection Blue version. I think Aino's the best girl but she has the weakest route, mostly because of how rushed the ending is as mentioned above.
>>570550083>Because fantranslators destroyed the sales of the official release by sniping the releaseThis did not happen. Fan-translations have been shown to increase sales, not decrease, because they function as free advertising and mean people are more aware of your product. The more fans you have, the more likely people are to buy it. If the fan-translation hadn't existed people would've just pirated it the official release. >posted spoilers of all twists all over the internetThis also did not happen. You think people need to wait for fan-translations to post spoilers? Anemoi was spoiled before the VN even released!>>570550115>with word repetitions in a single sentencebrother that's just Japanese.
>>570550115The fantranslators knew it had an official tranlsation announced and then quickly rushed out their own translation to get it out before the official one.
>>570550376oh no, how dare they not support our good friends tencent, the small family company that will surely die if people pirate their products.
I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
How cucked do you have to be to support localization companies
>>570550513My idol would support them
>>570550464Tencent is fucking based.
You know, I complained in early routes about how every heroine except the one whose route you are on vanishes if you don't do her route, but as I read each route they actually do a really good job of justifying it and explaining why, so now that complaint looks a little silly.
>>570550513Fan TL > official TL > edited machine TL > machine TL created by man who doesn't know English or Japanese.
>>570550609It depends broMusicus got an absolute dogshit translation. I would rather someone MTL it with sota.
I need to stop timing finishing anemoi routes right as I go to bed because it makes me feel so empty and hollow from post-nakikamiroute depression and now I just go lie in bed and stare at the ceiling and feel the hole in my chest.
>>570550376>>570550115>>570550083Yeah that answers it I guess.I find it wild that two MTLbros picked that freaking Danga Ronpa-like AA VN for kids (that I won't name because I really really can't hear it anymore) with an official TL coming. It's drawings look like from a mandala drawing kit, too.
>>570550695read fureraba in bed
>>570550757No one cares about it other than you
Finally getting around to scanning the booklets that came with the Nukitashi 1 and 2 remasters. So how exactly do I organise these when I upload them to the panda? Just upload them all under the name NIPPLE and call it a day or try and upload them all separately with my best attempts at finding out the names of the booklets?
>>570550778wrong, it was vnoty
>>570550803Anything in those booklets we can use for shitposting here? Does it contain any interview where the creators are like "yep Israel funds us"?
>>570550803I'd upload all four separately.
>>570550880Two of them are short stories and two of them are stats for the cast along with CGs.
>>570550953Boooring
>>570532794What ge?
>>570550757Don't get this Furearaba obsession. Fureraba isn't the best SMEEge, or the best Hayase Yuuge, or even the best SMEE Hayase Yuu game.
>>57055085260th highest rated VN of the yearhttps://vndb.org/v?f=023gja0272_0bNq474_0bPQK&s=24w
>>570551105Newfriend, it won /vn/'s VNOTY poll the year it released.
>>570549628>he's just submitting the blue liquid evidence repeatedly and it keeps working>>570551053>better than lovepical>better than M*L 1 and 2>better than S*S>better than amanatsu>it will be better than bakaple once that gets tl'dwrong and bald
>>570550953Anything fun in the stats?
>>570551131People actually vote on those things?
>>570551220I can't read Japanese but 99% chance the stats represent something silly.
>>570551257It's a small group of people who compete about how can find more proxies to vote.
>>570551316Why did you buy this shit then if you you can't read japanese
>>570542534The most tragic one yet... ;_;
>>570551341>>570551316Well I can read Japanese so upload it and I'll have a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j0HZUvJEEMThoughts?
Is today's sadpanda site content considered complete and contain everything the old had until 2019 when it closed down? I'd be mostly interested in European and American comics for adults not H manga/anime specifically.
>>570551257Not really.
>>570551484I'm an adult so I don't watch youtuber video essays.
>>570551484Why does he pronounce muramasa like that
>>570551551It's just blogposting but in a video format
>>570551145Correct and you're probably only 1-4 years younger than me and male pattern baldness is a serious subject and not to be made light of.
>>570551660i was born in 2024
>>570551621How are you supposed to pronounce it? >>570551551Sometimes they can help you understand a vinny better.
>>570551627Damn
>>570550660Just a general rule. Individual translations can get fucked up for all sorts of reasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVWAgIlHZEsI mean she's not wrong in saying that WA2 would be 10 minutes long if the three just formed a polycule
>>570551767>How are you supposed to pronounce it?Like "Muramasa"
>>570551729Global rule 2:>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
Are there any people that have worked with overleaf here? I really need some help
>>570551820No it wouldn't. The problems in WA2 are all caused by Haruki and any solution to them where Haruki is involved doesn't work. Because the entire VN is solved in Setsuna's route by locking Haruki out of the room and letting Setsuna and Kazusa have an honest conversation about their feelings. It really is ENTIRELY Haruki's fault.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_A6jzweNA
>>570551897>any solution to them where Haruki is involved doesn't work.I might just be retarded but I have no idea what you mean by this. How can he not be involved with fixing his personal issues?
>>570551820A harem ending would have been a total cop-out though.
>>570551834access some bitches
>>570551820>she
>>570551660how old are you though gramps>>570551847just download template
>>570551341Because someone has to be the first to pirate a thing.>>570551414Sure, here's Touka's. The second game's booklet gives fighting game moves.
>>570552065>just download templateIt's not about that. I have a problem with the bibliography using quotation marks for the titles when i don't need them.
>>570552083oh my god it's a Fate parody
>>570551627then post the fucking text as transcriptionwhat the fuck do you think this general is about - vns are a medium for reading not binging animenot gonna click your yt shit so you get 0.000001 USD for bringing ad consumers and IPs to google
>>570552127did you make yours from scratch? then just look at latex documentationhttps://www.overleaf.com/learn/latex/Bibliography_management_in_LaTeX
>>570552210I binge read my vinnies.
>>570552210>vns are a medium for readinglil bro... it's also an AUDIO medium
>>570552186And I'm sure that's not the end of the shitposts considering the stat chart up top is something different each time.
>>570551131>trannager polllollmao even
>>570553894>it's funny because I added the prefix "tran" which is hilarious because trannies are le bad Are you still in middle school?
>>570554102forgot your sobbing 'chamaru
>>570554153I only have a sad Beako.
>>570551484>meanwhile the Umineko essayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smCE5vmd-O4
>>570545253>>570545602It's quite simply like playing an FPS like Spec Ops The Line, the game may thematically indicate that what you're doing is bad, but it can still be a lot of fun to play. Unless one wants to suggest everyone who plays Specs Ops is a murderous freak and the devs support mass murder.
>>570554730In the case of games there's no way around it but to make the gameplay fun to play. Gameplay often clashes with narrative because both of them have different purposes. If the writer in LiL is actively trying to make grooming scenes fun and titillating on purpose while claiming his game is actually anti groomer he really needs to fix his cognitive dissonance or be honest about the nature of his work to public.
>>570554920Me and who?
>>570545473he's anti loli tho
>>570554940What you fail to understand is that visual novels are games, and "there's no way around it" but to make the games fun. People are not interested in reading a dreary, down-to-earth account of CSA. Ask 99.9999% of people if grooming is good and they will say no, just like 99.9999% of people will tell you murder is bad. The only reason people play games like LiL and Spec Ops is because they are fun. People like LiL not for any abstract themes about grooming but because it's fun to play (i.e. read). Those who like LiL finish it despite it being 150+ hours long is because it is constantly fun and engaging, thanks in part due to the harem antics. Nobody is sticking around to be told grooming is bad because they get it already, just like nobody played Spec Ops just to be told murder is bad. There is no getting around that unfun, dull, overly-moralizing tales attract no audience and mean nothing.Just look at all the self-important EVNs that DO try to do that kind of thing. Almost nobody plays them, and those that do mock their laughable attempts at moralizing. It's just not an option for anyone who wants to make something actually good that draws an audience.
LiL is being forced by a cult into popularity. Once it finds its way to THAT audience the backlash will be devastating.
The idea that stories have to be only fun and entertaining is retarded
>>570554920Is Monkeys! the AGP kamige we've been waiting for?
Ema from Monkeys
>>570555280Where there's smoke there's fire. A cult can't turn nothing into something. It's only gaining popularity because it's actually good and the majority of people who play it end up loving it. >>570555382I meant that in the same sense that "in the case of games there's no way around it but to make the gameplay fun to play." You can make a game unfun to play quite easily, and many artistic types do just that. You could also make a VN unfun to read. But on the basis that anon is speaking that games are incentivized to be fun, so too are VNs incentivized to be fun. You can make an unfun VN (and be extremely unpopular as a result) just like you can make an unfun game and it'll be extremely unpopular.
>>570555186If your central theme is about grooming you can easily write an engaging story about it without relying on cheap harem antics and the very same grooming shenanigans to entertain your audience.
>>570555514You could indeed write something different, but if it were different it wouldn't be what it is, and I like what it is.
Time to drop a truth nuke:'hibi>>>>>>>>'sons in 've
>>570555159that's not what that says, zoomer
>>570555514You shouldn't say things like "it's easy to write an engaging story" when you've probably never done so in your life. Writing an engaging story is hard. Being successful in the gaming industry is cutthroat. Attracting audience attention in a market this competitive is hard as absolute shit. VNs are incentivized to be fun and entertaining just like other games - that's all I'm saying. Spec Ops The Line could have been wholly unfun in services of its themes, but it played its FPS mechanics straight to sell an experience and be a fun game. There's a theoretical version of Spec Ops that's super unfun and totally sells how horrible it is to murder people, but it would have a hell of a harder time gaining any attention, and most of its existing fans wouldn't like it anymore. So it makes no sense to give games a pass while saying VNs specifically are not incentivized to be fun and entertaining.
>>570555531>literally the most popular VN on the /vg/ right nowThat's false though. The danganronpa thread is way faster. > I'm never coming back here, ever again!Cya later cutie
>>570555836Rin... Rokuhara?
>>570555887NTA but enduring threads for truly horrible games like Hundred Line, and relatively substanceless games like Coffin of Andy and blah blah are why I think /lil/ could pop off if it actually gets eyes on it. If a game as terrible as Hundred Line can somehow get people posting hundreds of threads about it, then /lil/ absolutely can pop off and lasts thousands of threads if only enough eyes fall on it.
Still not playing your kusoge, fuck off
Every day, /LiL/ grows some more.
DissoNAM brothers...
KS is the only evn worth playing, no need for koikatsuslop
>>570555574>>570555761I think there's a misunderstanding. I'm not saying this VN shouldn't exist or reading it makes you a pedo groomer or that VNs shouldn't be fun. I just hate how the writer pretends he's trying to be a social activist by spreading awareness about these issues when it's clear that's not what most people care about in this.
>>570556082It's a much better game than Katawa Shoujo, unironically.
>>570555956It doesn't work like that though. Not everyone that is a fan of danganronpa would enjoy LiL because they have different pros and cons. >substanceless games That's an exception, most games with such generals like Undertale or Omori have some substance, not enough to be on par with Muramasa for example but enough to incite discussions.
>>570556110In that case I'll just drop the issue since I don't care what the author has to say about anything. Either they make a game I like or they don't.
>>570556143KS>has an ending>was made mostly by 4chan LiL>has no ending>was made by a redditor
>>570556110>I just hate how the writer pretends he's trying to be a social activist by spreading awareness about these issues when it's clear that's not what most people care about in this.Oh, that's just bait so he doesn't get cancelled. He had a lot of failed projects before LiL and essentially gave up on writing something wholly serious, electing instead to write an R18+ harem work to draw attention and secure an audience - which amusingly worked instantly with the 0.1 release of LiL immediately drawing literally like hundreds of subscribers. He obviously knows what he's doing and knows what the strengths of the game are. He just talks about protecting abuse survivors in interviews because it's a good cover for the western people screaming at him for being a problematic lolicon, and because it's a cause he does care about anyway even if he is accidentally teaching thousands of people that high school girls rule and adult women suck. The other anon has it right though. In the end the author's comments barely matter, the game is good because it's fun, people like it because it's fun, the end.
>>570556238And yet it is a better game.
>>570551820Why do these freaks think everyone is a bisexual?
>>570556334>because it's a good cover for the western people screaming at him for being a problematic loliconWhy does he even have to make excuses for them thoYou definitely don't want those kind of people to engage with your game so why is he doing this
>>570556345I don't have an opinion on that, I am just letting you know why KS is more popular and beloved(for now).
>>570556431/lil/ is way more active than /ksg/
>>570556346one peculiar thing about autists is that they have a hard time understanding others and they're mostly solpsistic/narcissistic weirdos who can only project themselves onto otherstrannies are almost all autistsnow connect the dots
Gm sirs
>>570556429Life is not easy for someone who says 14 year old girls are hot and that they're gonna dedicate 10 years of my life to make a game about banging 14-16 year olds. It's just easier to say "Yeah yeah grooming bad, I want to help sexual abuse survivors, blah blah."To some degree, I think it's kind of an instinctive response from people. There's a meme show called Hazbin Hotel that's filled with sexual humor and even explicit rape jokes, but when asked in an interview the showrunner said that she really cares about survivors of sexual abuse and the most valuable thing her act could possibly do is help a survivor get through their issues. She then cites like one person who said they were abused and it was comforting seeing a show depict that kind of abuse - even when, again, in the show people get raped against their will and it's played for laughs. It's kind of absurd that even a lowbrow rape humor show would try to say "Yeah this is actually a commentary on sexual abuse and we care a lot about survivors," but perhaps creators just literally can't help themselves when people ask.
I was wondering how long it would take to break through her lesbianism to any degree.
>>570556592Do you still get tormented by homosexual nightmares?
>>570556536Katawa is old. At its peak it was reaching the bump limit in 1 or 2 hours.
Looks like lil general flopped and shills moved back here huh
Lessons in slop
>>570556683It happened literally once, I should be fine.
>>570556592When will you read LiL?Why did you rate undertale so high(did you play is a teenager)? Do you have any pets?
>>570556689I'm contributing to /lil/ as an olive branch to /vn/ and a sign of good faith... if it's /vn/ itself that chooses not to post there there's nothing I can do.
>>570556621>comparing the thing you're defending to a show that's blatantly virtue signalingpretty sure they also hired a rape fetishist who drew rape porn of the rape victim character for an episode about them
>>570551952Nta but he's incapable of doing that outside kazusa true(honestly the haruki in it seems out of character). Even if he tries he just fucks things up.
i don't see any lil postsrecommended filename filter:/^l(essons)?in?l(ove)?\(?\d+\.jpg$/;op:no;
>>570556820I'm just comparing two authors, not the work itself. I mean to say I think it's hard for authors to NOT try to score bonus points for presenting their work as like doing some broader moral good or something. Like find you an author that says "Yeah I'm writing this to get my rocks off, it rules" and you've found a based author.
>>570556764That sucks. We thought you were undergoing a homosexual metamorphosis. >>570556820Shut up pinkcuck
>>570414368>lil makes fun of r07Is Selebus actually Abdul in disguise?
>>570556689>>570556798It's just 'akibro not moving to /lil/ which causes discussion about it here. Most of /lil/ was already in /vn/ and it's not like they suddenly hate other VNs so of course they're still here when it comes up.
Your brain is pink
>>570556575Perhaps this general is meant to contain people who are too autistic to live a normal life. Now what happens when the autist among us experiences a cortisol spike?
>>570556948>they suddenly hate other VNsI don't hate them.I just wish they were better since now my standards have improved.
>>570556927no u>>570556953god BLESS
>>570557024I still don't get the obsession with pink, it's just a damn hair color. Tell me, for example, the color of your own hair.
>>570557012Autists can lead a normal life because modern civilization was made by them for other autists. It's us normal people who have to suffer their inhumane systems.
>>570557113I'm glad you asked, anon! You see, pink hair is the perfect hair colour for heroines because it's a mix of red, the most vibrant colour symbolizing love, and white, the colour representing neutrality and purity. By mixing the two, you have a more subdued, pure expression of love which warms the heart! Pink hair is simply the cutest and most romantic of all hair colours! If you understand how different colours affect your mind, you'd realize that pink has calming properties, similar to colours like blue! Not to mention, pink is commonly seen as a symbol of femininity, so by giving a cute heroine pink hair, she's already implicitly a bit girly regardless if she's genki or a tomboy or anything else! The power of pink lets any girl ascend to being best girl, because it provides the traits that every reader wants from a heroine. There can be nothing that gives greater happiness and love than pink, because that is what pink represents!
>>570556775When the 1.0 comes out, assuming it's life-changing enoughUndertake is kino. I refuse to believe there are people who completed genocide unionically and didn't like it. I assume it's the same shit going on with s;g, aka people calling it a tumblr game without having actually interacted with it properly
>>570557164trvkethey somehow convinced everyone that the state needs to mobilize resources to pander to them
>>570557179Using this logic you should like the color pink in general so is your room filled with girly pink things?
>>570557164We live in a 100iq society tho
>>570557179Is your partner a pink too?
>>570557164Wtf, I love autists(witches) now.
>>570557260autists contribute more to society on average so yes
>>570557179What about white hair with pink highlights?
It's weird how people are surprised at LiL being better than most vns when int reality jap writers are pretty shit compared to non-jap ones
>>570557317That's the average iq. We're talking about those who laid foundations and directed the forces of history. They tend to be autists. Most of the atrocities committed by humans were done at the behest of autists. I should write an anti autist manifesto to educate the masses. >>570557260Glad someone finally understands me
>>570557502The thing that's stopping western writers is their aversion of escapism outside blockbuster hollywood stuff.
It's weird how lil shills have a daily quote of posts to make
>>570557506Something tells me you're an autist too
the nips beta tested the medium, now the EVN kings will rule. tik tok weeb
>>570557502It's important to understand that all men seek to be something more. If you ask a guy, "What makes you more than other men?", they may laugh, they may get angry, they may get wistful, but they will ALWAYS answer. Men need to be more.And in the sad case of VN players, they cling to stuff like "I play JAPANESE games!" as what makes them more. So the mere idea of a Western game being good is dangerous to their very identity and self-esteem. How can they be more than other men when their hobby and taste is lesser? So they get violent and aggressive, as we've seen.
>>570557697Holy projection
>>570557667I'm a non-autistic neurodivergent(aka nan). People like me are the only hope for neurotypicals because they are too dumb to notice or act.
>LLMs happen>suddenly there are 500 new translation companiesnoooticing
LiL wonJapenis media lost
>>570557842At the end of the day white man wins
>>570555159Holy AGP
>another Sunday lilcord raidNooticing
>>570557819More like ego-editor companies, heh gottem.
>>570557819Name 50 new ones
>>570557842What?
>>570557923Imagine getting out of the wagie cagie for two days and the only thing you do is shilling a koikatsu screenshot patreon scam in a thread with 10 people
>>570557912I mean bro is a massive yurifag to the point he actually hates men in fiction.It's a miracle he didn't troon out
>No mention of the DissonancecordNoooticing
>Dissonance supremacy causing melties
hanna
>>570557982Two lil shills who frequent this place aren't wagies. Quof is a freelancer who works when he wants to work. That other shill is a NEET.
>>570557982There's been LiL blogposting with friendly replies pretty much every day here but this is when people suddenly argue about it. I'm afraid it's the other way around.
>>570558223LiL is too ugly and it shows how lazy Selebus is, he doesn't care about delivering an enjoyable story and just spams it with edgy DDLC fanfiction content
>>570558141Let it be known I don't go out of my way to post LiL here as of the current moment. I'm content to stay within /lil/. I sometimes interject into ongoing discussions about it, but if every /vn/ resident stopped talking about it then my only active shilling as it were would be in /lil/. This is an ouroboros of /vn/'s making, it's /vn/ eating itself not me.
>>570558223I can confirm it's the other way around because I'm one of those who stirs up shit on weekends
>>570557221>When the 1.0 comes out, assuming it's life-changing enoughI will be.
>>570558286LiL looks objectively great and Selebus objectively puts an enormous amount of work into the renders. Obviously some people out there just have a kneejerk rejection of 3D, just like I myself think over-realistic DAZ3D garbage looks like shit, but it's not good to project your personal tastes as objective or meaningful analysis. Plus, LiL is considered highly enjoyable to read by almost everyone who does read it, and the amount of DDLC-related content is so low that you mentioning it like that reveals yourself to either having never read it or to just have shockingly poor reading comprehension, which is unsurprising given how you type like an ESL.
Queen Balkan > LiL
>westoids have now colonized this medium as wellIt's unironically over. I will now kill myself.
Anyone who unironically uses the term "objectively great" is a certified retard
>>570558540As I said >>570557697As unbelievable as it may seem, some people like this anon really do stake their self-worth, value, happiness, etc on playing specifically Japanese games. Instead of thinking like a normal person and caring if a game is good or not, they cling to Japan like fungus on a wall, prepared to die should they ever detach from it.
Can't jannies see user ids? Ban the lil corders ffs, this is literal paid advertising. Nobody cares about your off topic lil dogshite here
>>570558309>it's /vn/ eating itself not me./vn/ has been eating itself since 2020, gone are the days of sovlfull oc and 4chan culture as a whole now it's just a bunch of shit stolen from xitter, discord and reddit or the same bland jokes getting repeated ad infinitum
Isn't Lil is a honorary JVN that's set in Japan with japanese girls?
>>570558442Quof I don't care that you are having regular sex with your trans buddy and maybe help him improve his ugly ass game instead of blowing him under the table every day
>>570558309It will always have a place in /vn/ culture as it features the best pink of all time.
>>570558791>having regular sex with your trans buddyIs he? Lucky bastard
>>570558705only nsfw content can summon the fabled moderation
>>570557697>"What makes you more than other men?", they may laugh, they may get angry, they may get wistful, but they will ALWAYS answer.I wouldn't answer, I would just listen and that's what no one did.
Let's see where we left off. Oh yeah, Tenchou's new honey pancakes are a huge success. What's going on with that? Usually nobody visits this cursed restaurant
>>570558627Don't care, I will still kill myself.
>>570558705this was debunked
>>570558946Based.I actually took that from a book called "The Prince of Nothing," and although nuanced to describe out of context, the "based thing" that the sorcerer Achamian did was shed a tear for the woman asking the question, because she had no means of learning about the world other than baiting men into talking about it by playing upon their pride.
>>570559053Think about your future wife
They're eating pizza now (this game is 80% about food btw). That reminds me of Anemoi... what a keynoge...
>>570556918i just think it's sad that paper thin virtue signaling is all it takes and that some people will willingly eat that up, and in some cases even use that as a shield to justify their hypocrisy.>>570557301read the post again stupid>>570557345no>>570557460>What about white hairyou know the answer to this
>>570559196Do they cooka da pizza too?
>>570558442GEG MELTY DISSONANCE W
>>570559341forcing the lil/dissonance war isn't going to work when dissonance is so trash that nobody will ever read it
>>570559053Suicide wa tadashikunai!
Oh, a new character
Let's wind the clock back a year. These evn shills and spammers wouldn't dare cross any of you. I mean, what happened? Did-did your balls drop off, hm? Look. Listen. I know why you choose to have your little... group therapy sessions in broad daylight. I know why you're afraid to go out at night: Quof .You see Quof has shown /vg/ your true colors... unfortunately. LiL, he's just the beginning.
>>570559434LiL/Dissonance war isn't going to work because Dissonance solos low diff
>>570558712It's a sad mockery made by a weeb too far gone such that regurgitating anime tropes is all they can do. And sprinkled with a bit of pretentiousness
>the bratty tsundere princess you allied with secretly calls you from the enemy commander's fortress trhough a magical orb that transmits visuals to supply you with intel inbetween rough rape sessions because, despite everything, she still loves (You) the mostI don't know about you, but I'm a sucker for these sort of sweet character moments.
>>570559605I hope she describes the raping sessions in detail!
tanaka romeo hit 53 this month
>>570559602You're on /vn/, moebuta central, and you think to complain about a game "regurgitating anime tropes"?
>>570558712Not just that, it's primarily inspired by real Japanese kamige and the dev literally moved to Japan.
time to bake some kino then
>>570559248>stupidThat actually hurt. I thought you were nicer.
>>570559650She leaves the orb activated because the commander enters the room, so the protagonist is forced to watch.
kek thread
>>570559767>the protagonist is forced to watch.HFK, he's literally me then.
>>570559767HFK, watching is literally the most kino thing a man can do
>spic meltykek
>>570559718Bake us a mahou shoujo-related OP, onegai.
>quof meltykek
>>570558442>LiL looks objectively greati am generally indifferent to most of your arguments on /vn/ and am even sympathetic with some of your takes (though i think they are typically pessimistic), but i think this is pretty disingenuous. it looks pretty awful, to the point where i think most anons would actually give it a try if it visually looked like even a bog standard moege.
>>570558705Many have been asking for this
>>570559728sometimes we need tough love, anon
oh it really was the spic who was having a melty kek
>>570560070Fine :(Do keep in mind that I am pretty sensible soul.
Fuck pinks
>>570560220While pinkanon watches
>>570560001You speak subjectively, I speak objectively. I have a friend who finds Koikatsu so repulsive it is almost sickening for him to read LiL, but you know what he says? He says "I don't like how it looks" not "It looks awful." Because he knows its his subjective opinion. Now, when I speak, I don't simply assume that the way I feel about something is the way it objectively is. Instead I look broadly and think broadly on a societal level. And on a societal level LiL looks objectively great. The majority of people like how it looks, there are strong objective arguments for it looking good, and the most haters can must is subjective "w-well its not what I like."It's like Saya no Uta. Assume that suddenly the whole world is disgusting meat to you and only Saya looks cute. The right thing to say here is not "oh god, the world is objectively ugly, and only this girl is cute." The right thing to say is "Despite my perception, the world objectively looks fine, and Saya is the ugly one." Of course, almost no human being has the deftness to think like that; everyone will just trust their instincts, then claim their personal feelings are objective truth. Meanwhile, I put aside my personal feelings and objectively speak of the world through analysis.
>lilcord IP bannedFinally, peace...
He's so happy
>>570560167suffering builds characteri still believe in you anon>>570560220>>570560282stupid AND stinky anons
>>570560291Objectively speaking, the works is just the way it is. When you're saying it is fine or great, you're taking a subjective viewpoint.
>>570560291I need an objective opinion about how good my cock looks yet I keep getting contradictory answers. Can I send you some pics?
>>570560361>suffering builds characterIs that how you cope when girls cuck you?
>>570560293nice fanfic bro
>>570560413That is a valid perspective, but one which is considered subjectivity hell, where no meaningful comments can be made on anything. I speak from a different perspective, which is where we can derive broad societal truths from consensus. E.g., even if one guy out there considers a 2,000 pound obese landwhale beautiful, we can say it is more truthful to say that slender women are more beautiful. If I say: "This conventionally attractive Hollywood actress is beautiful," that has more truth and objectivity than "This landwhale is beautiful," and people understand that even if, indeed, there is an alternative POV where we say "women are just the way they are and any comment on appearance is subjective."
>>570560158GEEEEEEEEEEG he made his account private
>>570560552>This landwhale is beautifulEvery landwhale is beautiful
>>570560361Ok but I hope you realize that from my perspective you are one of the nicest and most adorable anons itt.
The only fat heroine we like is >>570530998
>>570560720Thick girls will give you many healthy children.
>>570560559also removed the costa rican flag
MOVE>>570403225>>570403225>>570403225
>>570560858Kek ashamed of being an ESL but real ESLs like me are proud of it
>>570560858Gaaaaag
>>570560552I just don't think statements have to be rid of subjectivity completely to be meaningful. Even the societal "truths" you speak of are contingent on a lot of factors and for me they're more like helpful statistical heuristics than capital T truths. Some subjective perspectives vary drastically between humans and some subjective perspectives are shared by a majority of humans. Both can be meaningful in their own contexts. Tbh I don't get this obsession with the mindset only things that can be spoken without any subjective elements are meaningful. It's the context and games that give life to statements rather than any objective content in them.
>>570560858holy shit there really is just a single dissonance shill in the world
>>570560972Remember the context for this conversation is someone, flagrantly, saying. "LiL looks pretty awful," with no note made to subjectivity, and speaking confidently as if it were objectively true. As long as the people I'm talking to like to take an air of objectivity where their opinions are true simply because they feel that way, I may as well counter from an angle of objectivity as well. If the guy simply said "I think LiL looks bad" or "that's just my opinion" without trying to make a broad truthful claim on that basis, t here would be no issue here.
>>570561084>LiL looks pretty awfulTrvke
>>570560291at this point you must be baiting or something, but i will still respond to this in good faith.>The majority of people like how it looksthe majority of people who like the vn like you, or are being contrarian, or any other reason, can say that they like it when maybe what they mean is they can stomach it for the sake of a vn they like.also your entire post is basically just saying your stance is objective because some people agree with you, without actually talking about the vn directly.meanwhile i can list actual specific examples of why i think the art looks bad.>>570558545the utensils here are stacked oddly and most of the objects/furniture are basic polygonal shapes without any textures>>570556631the background posters here heavily clashes and takes away the focus from the characters, the poster in the middle literally has artifacts and was probably a low resolution jpg that got downloaded. also the mc looks inbred with how scrunched up his face is.because the dev has no artistic talent they are forced to use tools to supplement or act as stand ins for proper art, so they have no ability to understand things like composition or whether elements clash. even if you think a vn has bad hand drawn art, outside of r07 they typically are unified within an aesthetic. the consistency matters, even more so than it being high fidelity.
I wish I was a VN heroine
>>570561283>meanwhile i can list actual specific examples of why i think the art looks bad.Do it
>>570561390anon... finish reading the post
>>570560293>it's realKek
Imouto thread next pls
>>570561486Ask your imouto
>>570561283On subjective terms, I genuinely think it looks good. The heroines look cute, the 3Dness is nice, they are expressive, lots of interesting poses, yada yada.Your nitpicking of utensils and background elements are pretty weak as argumentation, the visual style of the game is not built upon whether the spoons placed in bowls look natural or not. You may as well say the Mona Lisa looks bad due to some paint flaking or something. The posters also serve to give a sense of place, so it feels more like being in an actual room, rather than nothing existing except for the characters. The vast majority of people barely register that as a problem, you're just looking for issues to complain about. You're talking about very small, irrelevant stuff here.
Bros, I hate blogposting. It takes me out of the experience
>>570561640If you're getting paid for it do itOr else quit it
>>570561701People get paid for blogposting?
>>570561283I don't think your criticism is entirely invalid, but in the larger scheme of the game it's not something that matters very much. Hell in most VNs the backgrounds are almost entirely irrelevant and serve only to inform you of where you are. How often in VNs is a heroine's bedroom just a drawing of a generic "girl room"? All the fucking time. Anyway, I think if you played it you wouldn't care about this. That's just my two cents, though.
blah blah blah, read a vn faggot™
I mean let me shallowly critique Ao no Kanata's art while preserving the veil of objectivity:Her nose is too small so it looks like she has no nose which is bad, the dutch angle makes it look the world is built, the MC's face is deftly not shown, the girl's tits are barely compressing against his back, the city in the background is a bunch of low-effort dots, the impressionist style of the hills meshes poorly with the anime style of the characters, the gradient of dark on left and brighter on right is distracts us from the characters, having so much on the left but so little on the right is imbalanced...See? I can list random nonsense and claim it's objective art analysis too.
>>570561450ironically the ones who talk the most about lilshit here are the haters like the spic kek
LiL bros doing anything but admitting their vn looks horrendous
>>570561965Those are the organic posters, the actual paid lil cord makes post praising lil out of nowhere, especially on weekends
>>570562032LiL haters so delusional they try to pretend their taste in art is objective and everyone who claims to like the look of something is just lying
>>570561879I've been reading a VN for the past 3 hours. Did I miss anything important while I was gone?
>>570562061>organic posterssamefagging is not organic kek
>>570561283There is indeed a degree of awkwardness to >>570556631 as he's currently at the part of the game that looks the worst. Most of the game is better composed than that visually.
COQ thread? I'm thinking COQ thread.
Does LiL have a character as complex as Ogiso Setsuna from WA2? No essays, just yes or no
>>570562184Yes
>>570562083>>>/aco/weg/
I'm thinking oppai thread
>>570562083There is some objectivism in art. An absence of shading makes the art look flat for example.
>>570562293Sure, but as the other anon said, you leave the realm of objectivity once you apply value judgments. There's tons of "flat" art without shading that can look good, for example.
>>570561945Never got why it wasn't standard practice for girls to wear shorts under their skirt in Aokana. Sure, with how that flying technology works their skirt won't be flapping around, but anyone below you will still get an eyefull of panties just looking up.
SHUT THE FUCK UP>muh lil>muh no lilWHO THE FUCK CARES? If you hate LiL then discuss other vns, if you love LiL then go to your general and discuss it there.
>>570562440it all comes back to kageakibro wanting to blogpost it here
>>570562693*kageakijeet
>>570562693kageakijeet*
>>570562731>>570562752I am a pure-blooded Anglo-Saxon and am not Ind*an.
>kageakijeet is the only person here who fell for the lil memeKek
>>570562873Are you bri'ish?
>>570562910I've seen a few other people posting about it who were further into the game than me.>>570562998No, I'm American.
>>570562910>he fell for reading a vn that he enjoysthe rest of /vn/ could never
>>570562440Would Erika like LiL?
>lil>66 resultsHFK
>>570563130>now it's 67HFK
>>570563130Can you believe some guy got banned for 16 spam posts and you guys get away with making 67 spam posts?
>>570545253the spic started it all kek>>570563130
>>570563252>some guySay his name.
>>570563252>16 spam postsNo, those were insightful reviews>>570563275I'm not that spic you're obsessed with.
>>570563043Are you racist? Can I pay you a visit when I eventually visit America?
>>570563329I am racist, yes.
>>570563329He's talks like an old school racist who really believes in his racism unlike the edgy kids lol
>>570563312see the reply 2 posts down kek
>>570563302Voldemort, Voldemort, Voldemort.
>>570563365Are you racist against eastern europeans?
>>570563503Yes
>>570563302The clown of Baghdad
>the groomer is trying to hit on kageakijeet tooPatheticThe dude's a middled aged janitor
>>570563503I don't have much experience with them in real life, so I don't have an opinion.
>>570563365will you be friends with a latino tranny who is also into muramasa?
>>570563185Let's get it to 69!Lil lil
>>570563620Ok. Do you hate me?
>>570563252>16 spam postsA lot more >>570515186
>>570563751_No
>>570564109Kino
>>570561634i think i'm starting to understand what our fundamental disagreement is here. you seem to mainly only care about the art directly surrounding the heroine, which i will admit looks fine enough from what i've seen, whereas i care about the entire package. i personally think only caring about the heroine, to the extent that you are willing to say the vn holistically looks good, is shallow and vapid, but that's just my opinion.i disagree that background elements don't matter, as they are what supports the stars of the show (the characters) from the shadows.i want you to answer this so i can have a concrete understanding:do you think there would be no meaningful difference if the entire vn took place in a white void outside of the immediate furniture the characters are interacting with? what about if every single thing that wasn't a character was replaced with minecraft graphics? would that make no difference for you?>>570561872i would like you to answer the same questions above.for me personally, obviously i am not reading a vn so i can go 'wow look how amazing and cute her bed is, the personality it expresses is so rich and vibrant!'generally i'd appreciate a standard looking background. the point is the art is cohesive and immersive, with no jarring elements.minecraft for example is entirely voxel based, and yet has an attractive aesthetic even though the faces of players and animals are literal pixels. the game would undoubtedly look worse if you suddenly replaced all buildings in the game with unity store assets, even if those are technically 'better' graphics with higher fidelity.>>570561945this is entirely in bad faith and not worth responding to
>>570564154We will ask the same question to kimikabro and see if he's a better person
>>570564109This is quite retarded, because if you're going to filter normally you filter everything, you don't even realize that there are filtered posts.
>>570564109>stubs onyou didn't filter it
>>570564109How do you make it show what filter got triggered in the stub?
>>570563831Do you have a correct understanding of Early Modern English verb conjugations? That's going to make a lot of difference to me.
>>570564109At that point why even stay? Go find another VN community
Imagine if you could also filter people that even thought about L*L, it would be perfect.
>>570564348I want to know how many posts triggered the filter, I still unhide a few of them out of curiosity>>570564451I dunno know, it's default in 4chan NEXT
Someone's a lil bit mad.
>>570564486That's the same as leaving /vn/.
>>570564470Kill yourself EVN troon parasite, you have your own general. Stop infesting this general like poojeet to the western countries
>>570564461>Do you have a correct understanding of Early Modern English verb conjugations?Yes, I do.
wow... it's like... I'm really her...https://files.catbox.moe/u0dlow.png
It will get better
>>570564614Racism, transphobia and evnphobia in the same post?
kek
>>570564235>i would like you to answer the same questions above.I don't really feel like getting into a protracted discussion about this and I already said the main thing I wanted to say, so there's not much to do besides reiterate it in a different way. I think the art in the game has personality to it that is missing in a lot of other games. If you think some of it is jarring, that's fine. I already said that I didn't entirely disagree with your earlier post. I can also forgive a lot for a free game made by one person, you know? I do think in the context of actually playing the game it's not something that's going to bother you.
>>570564604>>5705644704chan used to have the best western visual novel community. I could never leave this place no matter how shit it gets because the rest of the internet is even worse.
>>570564785>because the rest of the internet is even worseIt really is like that, this is the best place to talk about vns despite everything
>>570564682You have received the honor of not being hated by me, congratulations.
>>570564109hey man i have some tipsfirst /LiL/i and /LIL/i are identical. the i after the slash means "case insensitive". they both match the same thing, as well as lil and lIl and Lil and every variation of these.secondly, you're overmatching by a ton. as written, these will filter any post that contains l and i and l in that order, including anyone talking about lilies, lilliputians, galileo, soliloquys, lilo and stich, milliliters, etc. you can use "\b" as a word boundary indicator, so "\blil\b" will just filter lil surrounded by spaces and punctuation
>>570564931Yay, thanks!
MOVE:>>570565023>>570565023>>570565023
>>570564994this post probably got filtered by them kek
>>570564994>lilies, lilliputians, galileo, soliloquys, lilo and stich, milliliters,Literally no one talks about those. Maybe some yurifags but it's good to have them filtered.
>>570564994thanks for the tips, I luckily unhide your post>>570565290kek it really did
>>570564780sure, but the main argument i had with quof was whether the art was good or not. sounds like you agree with me if you're saying stuff like it's good enough for a free game by 1 person, or it's not bad enough to bother you.
>>570565974I think there are parts of it that are good and parts that aren't so good. It's flawed but I like it overall.
>>570565974I mean, here's the CG I'm currently on, not something I picked specifically. I don't think this looks bad all.
Somebody left this at page 10... I should pick it up just in case.
Pinks won
steins shit lost
