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Tails!
Take your ship out for a jog
>>570518890Mina's husband
What happened to Ash? Why would Mina marry Tails when she already has a supportive longterm boyfriend?
>mfw fagslop is posted
>>570518984Probably overtime his bad qualities stacked and wounded the relationship
YOU LIKE FAGGOT SHIT SHIT DON'T YOU? YOU NAUGHTY PINK THING? I BET YOU ALSO WANT TO SEE SONIC AND SHADOW MAKE OUT. YOU SICK FUCK
>>570518124>>570518287The sissification of Archie boys must continue>>570518984>What happened to AshHe got HUMANED
>>570518984Bro wasn't Sonic enough. Even in Archie the universe revolves around sucking off Sonic and the only way to get anywhere is to be as much like him as possible.
>>570519243I remember an image of amy holding p a picture of Shadow and Sonic kissing while she bad a nose bleed over it...
obviously Ash committed suicide after being given visions of the future and was punished by being sent to Sonic Boom
>>570519297Never seen Barsh before.Better save this.
what in the hell is going on
>>570519359
>>570519297Not a fan of that black fur, it gives the impression that he's a really hairy dude
>>570519297>>570519314Holy shit, that's kind of gay anon!
>>570518984Apparently he wasn’t in the comic by then? They only paired her up with Tails because he would’ve been forever alone kek
>>570519297It was Bark not Vector, I misremembered. Goodbye, Anon.>>570519447Picrel
>>570519523Actually, Ash was added immediately before Mina was confirmed to be Tails's wife in the future.
>>570519479That's the one!
>>570519479This same artist used to tweak over Sally lol, she even redrew pages.
>>570519479Woah, my first exposure to sownadow..
>>570519614Maybe they didn’t think Ash would last at the time/sidnt see his character moments that showed that he actually loved Mina despite being an ass.
>>570519642Nta do you have examples?
>>570519037Are you gonna add Mecha Robotnik? or she already in am I just failing at Where's Waldo?
>>570519479Amy is a rotten girl...
>>570519513If it's gay then why my dick hard?
knock knock
>>570519856This pic only contains Egg Bosses and Grandmasters
>>570519938>knock knockIt's Knuck-wait, huh?
I'm sorry to dig up the topic again but I think it was funny people were arguing about the potential implication that Maria V2 was thought bubbling Shadow that nobody cared about Infinite getting chokeslammed by Chris Thorndyke
>>570519920Because you balls are heavy and need to be held, to much smen makes your balls sway with gay.
SA2 is a really hard game.
Ghostver
>>570519129
>>570520049What happened to Megan?
>>570520049>elias is gay>antoine is gay>ash is gayWhat's your endgame Elias fag? why this much hatred to these Archie characters beloved by many?
>>570520136She was a facade, a front to his conservative family.
>>570520065True. I wish Sonic games were still hard. I liked The Final Horizon at least.
>>570520016Chris Thorndyke is canonically a martial artist. It is addressed in Sonic X. Hope wouldn't even like game Shadow but I can let it go if it isn't romantic. That bitch said terrible shit to him.
>>570520065For Sonic yeah.
>>570520049I want Elias.. *Huff Huff* I want Elias so bad.. *Huff Huff*
>>570519749Ew, thick veiny tentacles squirming their way into your everything and pulsing with thick viscous slime, yuck!
Sex with every archie character.
>gay>fagYou sure a bit queer /sthg/ arent you?
>>570520541If I don't jerk off all the gay cum from my body to gay porn, I'll absorb it and have a gay body! I need to save my Straight Semen and expel the homo seed.
Saffron
>>570519808It was actually mostly covers
>>570520489https://files.catbox.moe/8c7xhx.jpg
what's with the sudden spike in faggotry
>>570520659Since Charmy got brain damage she's free for a human husband.
>>570520698>https://files.catbox.moe/8c7xhx.jpgwew
4chan finally being accepting of gay people, awesome
>>570520659>She was meant to get brutally murdered by Fang by getting choked by a piano wire>>570520687
>>570520687The facial expression on left is so weird looking, don't get why the right has the aper fan, her hammer basically is that gag.
>>570520756
>>570520851>>She was meant to get brutally murdered by Fang by getting choked by a piano wireThat's hot
>>570520698Ew, what if she gets pregnant? Or worse, what if he lays eggs?
>>570520739Sonic is just very sexy, and you'd be gayer to not fuck everyone in the cast including the men.
>>570519730I still dont get why some people thought this was supposed to be a bossfight.The whole point if the scene was that it was a fakeout by Tails. We even see him reprogram the machine before he shows up
>>570520851>>570520875The fan is an anime gag though, the hammer is too. Yeah I don’t get it either.
>>570520698>one tentacle reaching for her belly buttonExtra hot
>>570521072>Sally so happy to Knuckles wifeKinorino!
>>570519129While I dont think Amy would be a homophobe, I dont think she would be a fujo either. She would totally be the matchmaker type though.
>>570519856It's difficult to find any fancontent of Mecha
>>570521072
Shade
>>570521258Isn't it funny that Shade rhymes with Wade
>>570520523god imagine blazes nails digging into your back driving you deeper into her holy womb
>>570521353They would be buddies
>>570519730>I don't think he would have escaped imprisonment as easily on his own however (You)'re underselling Classic Tails, he ain't no pussy like Modern Tails.
>>570521072>>570520687Forgot, she redrew this too. Her redraw is a reference to Pucca, she drew a lot of fanart of that too.
>>570519938Wait, but i stopped! How can I be over there when I'm over here!?!?!Whats going on!?!?
>>570521412I wish i had that gif of Generations where Classic Tails is less of a pussy than Modern Tails
>>570521395They take turns watching the Master Emerald
Evan Stanley cannot draw human women
>>570521417And a bonus, she drew Cosmo slapping the shit out of Fiona.
Douge
Sonic and Shadow’s big gay adventure
>>570521417Archie did draw Amy with weird gremlin mouth for no reason a lot. Even 2008 posters criticized it based on Archives.
>>570521798Archie didn't respect Amy as a character and hardly respected Sonic as anything other than a teen drama self insert.
>>570521798Idk i find it to be a fun quirk
>>570521417>PuccaI remember that!
>>570521249This too
I've got an awesome idea. Sonic the Hedgehog x Tony Hawk American Wasteland
Something nobody talks about with Blaze is that the IRL Japanese imperial family is said to be descended from Ameterasu the sun god. This might be why her control over flames would be seen as heretical.
>>570521707>>570521807Rubbing those ears.
>>570521218I like the SOJ-fied Archie characters the most out of this sort of thing. It reminds me of those old Al and Cal drawings people used to psot here.
>>570521978But this is the issue Sonic is slapped by Sally... Why edit this specific one?
>>570522139>IRL Japanese imperial family is said to be descended from Ameterasu the sunExplain?
>>570522171I'm still here in fact
>>570521867Amy is supposed to be cute and spunky. Im actually happy to see the redraw understood that. They weren't even trying to downplay her being madly in love with Sonic either unlike modern ship merchants.
>>570521417Sonic is ooc in both.
>>570522139Amaterasu is a woman though. But I see where you are going.
>>570519938
>>570521442
>>570522247You and fangame guy are the only archiefags that don't piss me off
>>570522176The only thing I got was that Amy is the real heroine and that she hates Mary sues lol. Also this gem of a comment section that shows an example of the sewage ship wars
>>570522502Oh no! Amy is stuck in the mirror dimension!!!!!!
>>570522526One's an Al & Cal fan and the other is a JPfag who happens to like Archie. Calm down bestie.
>>570522231That's the extent of my knowledge lolAlso something I just learned:>the Imperial Family protects the Three Sacred Treasures (Sanshu no Jingi), which are the physical symbols of their legitimacy and divine right to rule. However, because of their extreme sanctity, the original artifacts are kept in separate, highly secure locations across JapanKinda cool. Explains why they made Blaze protect the Sol Emeralds and the Jeweled Scepter.She could have any number of such sacred treasures in her world.
>>570522526Here is my character ranking
>>570522640Most Archiefags want romance slop and destroy the characters. >BestieFuck off. Sonamy fans have a right to be annoyed with names like that.
>>570522565>B*neheadI feel like they should censor swears like that, I almost fainted.
>>570522705Cool
>>570522781I like romance slop too and Archie characters too, don't get too comfortable my man
Sally will never fuck Sonic.Amy will never fuck Sonic.Sally and Amy will have to fuck each other instead...
>>570522469
>>570522647That’s pretty cool anon. A treasure hunting game sounds like a good spin off idea for Blaze and Marine, to retrieve artifacts stolen by a new enemy.
>>570522930I'll squint my eyes aggressively just this once and call it a day.
>>570522781Archie Sonic is an American-style hero. He likes to say jokes and jump around.
>>570522945>Sally will never fuck Sonic.How did they get married and have kids, then? Checkmate, Amytheists.
>>570521607Okay this shit goes hard. Need more!!!
Found another glitch, while playing the Chemical Plant invincibility mission. I was next to an Item Box and it kept reappearing immediately and the Invincibility would also break it immediately, over and over, several times a second
>>570520016You have to squint to see the thought bubble, that was the silliest and most forced shipping discourse I have ever seen
What if Sonic's team was with George Washington while he was crossing the Delaware to stage the Battle of Trenton. Maybe he'd just watch? Or he'd just talk to Washington and give them a hand based on the context.
>>570523327That was actually scourge pretending to be sonic.Sonic never actually shows up in Archie it's all scourge the whole time.
>>570520487Show me more of twink Charmy
>>570523523If we're judging comics by if Sonic acts like his game counterpart, Sonic has only appeared in these comics>issue 98 of Archie>IDW Chaotix special>IDW Skrapnikand then never again. Not a single time before or after. These are the only three Sonic comics in history. Pretty strict right?
Correcting Fiona
>>570523621When you put it like this it seems less like an issue of americans being unable to write Sonic and more of an issue of nearly all Sonic comics being written by Ken Penders, Ian Flynn, or Evan Stanley.
>>570523621Yeah, pretty weird.I wonder why they stretched this arc out for so long, scourge really is greatest foe in all of sonic...
The mission system is padding since Secret Rings and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>570523839Only some games have it though
>>570523621>issue 98 of Archiethe entire issue is just a recreation of sa2 cutscenes though
>>570520487Weird how this fandom consistently makes Charmy straight
After playing SA2 Knuxouge just makes sense.
Scourge was even in the Sonic Manga, a lot of people forget he's the longest lasting character and has shown up in every form of Sonic media.
>>570523923Yes
The fandom is still stuck in the 2000s
>>570521843>Archie didn't respect Amy as a character and hardly respected Sonic as anything other than a teen drama self insert.
>>570523965What
>>570523985We are still in the 2000's
>>570523998Where's Amy's penis??
>>570523985nothing has happened since 06 to actually continue any of the lore since Shadow Generations
>>570523839>secret ringsNo one denied it was padding in that game though.
Iizuka just confirmed Sonic Pico Park will be the first AAAAA game
I don't need any respect. I just need some colorful cartoons doing some rockin action.>>570523998
>>570524069Did I fucking stutter scourge is in every form of Sonic media ever. Fakefan like you would never understand how wide reaching the scourge saga is.
If you don't like Scourge it's because you hate Sonic's japanese characterization and you're basically a rapist
>>570523949Right?
>>570524249Oh yeah. Sonic Pico Park. I forgot that game existed
>>570521497
>>570523998What does any of this have to do with Amy's character?
>>570524332How do you ship her with SHADOW of all people after this shit?
>>570524478 Most shippers don't like Sonic or Shadow's canon personalities, they like Sonic as a horny teenage boy and Shadow as a brooding bad boy who they can fix. Don't waste time arguing with shipperfags
>>570524478By playing other sonic games in the last 25 years.
>>570524568More like they turn Shadow into Knuckles
>>570524478From the Shadowfags's perspective, especially the ones that came on with Heroe and 06, Rouge is the most prominent female relative to Shadow so they must be paired.Same autism that lead to Taiora and AshxMisty
>>570524592The only games worth shit are Adventures, Mania, ShadGens, Heroes and the og games
>>570521497Both of them are going behind their Sonic
>>570523453>when you get pitted against the ultimate gary stu audience wish fulfillment character
>>570524568>they like Sonic as a horny teenage boyThat's the thing though. They don't like.him as a horny teenager boy. Only some male self inserters do.The female shippers (who make up the majority of shipping) like make him more of a swuave guy if anything.
>>570523985Sonic is a 2000s franchise, and no it doesn't matter that the first games were in the early 90s.>>570524117Two new species were introduced, Wisps and Zeti.The games also introduced a new organization/location with the Planet Donpa.
>>570524478I don't. now that I care about knuxouge but Rouge is the type of people Shadow would dislike / hate.
Sonic x Rouge
>>570524828>Two new species were introduced, Wisps and Zeti.>The games also introduced a new organization/location with the Planet Donpa.And Classic Sonic is a thing now.
why is this place literally always arguing about shipping every day arguing about shipping in the movies that isnt even there arguing about shipping in idw even though it was bannedarguing about shipping in archie even though you were told by ian flynn himself that the archie characters are not the same people as the game characters arguing about ships in a fangame that doesnt even have ships in it are you fucking insaneshipping shipping shipping
>>570525009I like playing puppets with fictional characters
>>570524828>>570524949Light Gaia and Dark Gaia, Infinite and the Phantom Ruby, the Ancients.
>>570524828(me)>>570524117Also, Eggman probably altered the geopolitics of Sonic World with a global war that almost ended in him taking over the world.
>>570525009It's the Archie fans who cause this
>>570525009It's all shatougefags schizing out.
>>570524592Literally the only thing Shadougefags ever do is push that 1 line from 06 which isnt even really romantic.
>>570524789Knuckles doesn't beat little kids.
>>570525068There should be more art like this.
>>570525252I can't believe /sthg/ are such posers they haven't watched Sonic X to know this
>>570524759yeah and >>570524434 shows modern tails in a way more exaggerated manner
Knuckles hits women.
>>570525402He's just keeping his people's traditions alive.
>>570525402Equal rights.
I'm starting to think Rush and 06 both coincidentally had a princess related to the sun (Sol) because of imperial Japan >>570522139, just like Rush Adventure and Riders both had an ancient civilization related to Babylon, and Secret Rings and Rival both had an Ifrit.However this is all the exact type of shit the lore team would try and connect considering they also made the Great Civlizations from Battle (which exist IRL) mean ancient civilizations in the Sonic lore instead.
>>570525349There is unfortunately a huge phenomenon on sthg of people talking on games they didn't play, shows they didn't watch, and comics they didn't read and then trying to argue about it like they know anything.
>>570524747>shadgens>>570525239
>>570525123Light Gaia and Dark Gaia i guess, but they arent coming back so they are effectively gone since they won't awaken gor another millenia or whatever.
>>570524949If we're counting Classic Sonic canon, a new society was discovered with the Sungazers. It's also revealed in Mania that the first badniks to gain sentience and autonomy(and rebellion) due to the Phantom Ruby.
>>5705255432 years later and i can't find the shipping in this
>>570525543What does this have to do with either post you fucking retard
>>570525543She sure is flying 200 kilometers behind him on their way to being Sonic's cheerleaders
>>570525402with his dick
>>570525009>arguing about shipping in the movies that isnt even thereSonamyfags arguing about the potential of the next movie>rguing about shipping in idw even though it was bannedWhispanglefags>arguing about shipping in archie even though you were told by ian flynn himself that the archie characters are not the same people as the game characters A combination of Sonamyfags seething about Sonally, and Sonallyfags seething that gamenic has never been anything like this >arguing about ships in a fangame that doesnt even have ships in it are you fucking insaneDoes the Silviona count? I'm pretty sure this was Shadamyfags and Shadriafags fighting.
My OTP? Depends on who I'm trying to piss off at that moment.
>>570525638Yeah we did build stuff for the series since 06, its just a lot of it is less epic.
>>570525009Women
>>570523998The awful art is distracting
>>570525778>Sonallyfags seething that gamenic has never been anything like thisALLSHIPPERSDOTHIS
>>570524478She is the most available female in proximity of him, that’s really all there is to it.
Sometimes I wish you anons understood how insane some of you sound talking about stuff.
>>570525778>Shadamyfags and Shadriafags fighting.No it was 100% just Hopecucks trying to force her into the role of "new Maria" and getting btfo by Archie itself.
>>570526203And Rouge has the most flirty moments with Knuckles.Do they care about Rouge at all or they just self-insert as her so they can fuck Shadow?
>>570525778>Sonamyfags arguing about the potential of the next movieSonamyfags dont even do this. There is just one person who tells you its gonna happen over and over when you stir the pot.>A combination of Sonamyfags seething about Sonally, and Sonallyfags seething that gamenic has never been anything like thisYou keep trying to push the notion that it was equal and yet when I check the archives, I literally cant find Amyfags shitting on Sally but very easily find Sallyfags shitting on Amy.
>>570525683>>570525723>>570525743
>>570526334I chuckled.
What's a hopecuck
Which character would want to own the chuds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzk3oOngb2IAll tragic monsters are crying for themselvesIn attics and in basements, In cages and prison cellsWishing that the citizen's myth they could dispelUntil you see the faces in the limestone on the pipeDon't tell the tragic monsters what loneliness is like
>>570526462Archie fans who misunderstood the character of Hope and try to make her a replacement for Maria. They don't care about Shadow or Maria as characters.
>>570526323I will never understand how people were conditioned into believing Sally was an official character, what do they mean by “bring back”, she was never there. This is why Nintendo axed the 90’s autism as soon as they could, so this shit doesn’t confuse the fandom in the long run.
>>570526462The enemy of a doomfag
>>570526708You might have accidentally written some kino here
https://youtu.be/BSsfjHCFosw
Goodnight
>black doom>white hope
>>570526628Why are you falseflagging as Krack
>>570526829https://youtu.be/m35pIk5wfNk
Shower scene
>>570526303Im personally not a fan of how much gluing Rouge to Shadow has sanitized her image. People legit forget she is a world famous jewel thief who is selfish enough to steal thr Master Emerald and let Knuckles' home crash into the ocean.
>>570527079I like the bass.
>>570526964Who cares about her? Nobody is doing that.
>>570527140>Sonic and Tails are sleeping together >Sonic and Tails are showering together >Sonic and Tails are together
>>570526334hey, isn't this like fadel gamescage's apartment stairway?
>>570527490And people try to argue other Sonic ships are canon.
>>570527261I hate how when Rouge is around Shadow she turns into this shallow pep talk character. Whenever she's around Shadow the story slows down to say "See! Shadow has friends!"
Nicole is the Rosalina of Sonic.
The Sprinklers were introduced in Sonic Colors, right? I didn't know they were also in Generations
>>570527697How
I hate how LITERALLY EVERY TYPE OF MISCHARACTERIZATION COMES FROM ARCHIEFAGS REFUSING TO PLAY THE GAMES AND GET THE CHARACTERIZATIONS FROM THE GAMES AND NOT THEIR SHITTY NON CANON COMIC BOOK THAT SONIC TEAM NEVER CARED ABOUT
>>570527140I always found this cute>>570527490>>570527580Yes
>>570527620I dont even hate their dynamic. It's fine. She did similar things in SA2. But having her glued to him is my issue. She cant be anything else but his advocate and secretary.Rouge's fun traits like her being materialistic, teasing and generally being an antagonist are all put in a bin.I remember once suggesting that the reason Rouge doesnt tell Shadow about his past in Heroes is because she wants to use him to get Eggman's treasure, but people were like "Rouge would never do that!!!!"Then again people also couldn't accept that Shadow would take out Infinite's Squad in Forces for some reason.
>>570518623Gavan Infinity is part of Sonic now I guess
>>570525918Rouge and Lex Luthor didn't smash
Rouge was never anything more than Shadow's simp.
i only hate shadouge when shadougefags forget that rouge is taller than shadow
Godzilla SHOULD be playable in Sonic Crossworlds
Surge
>>570524657>Same autism that lead to Taiora and AshxMistywhich of these camps is the most autistic?
>>570528289Reminds me of hoe Vegebulfags forget Bulma is taller than vegeta.
>>570528315Him and Ghidorah
>>570528451You can blame Super for this one
>>570528451I'm pretty sure the animators forgot that after the Namek Saga.
>>570528402The latter. The former just cries about it. Then former legit campaigned and sent death threats to the show runners.
>>570528451But he's taller than her in Super and Daipa
Sonaze
>>570528402https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEBoDlBhKrcThe dub was weaponized in favor of Taiora. OWG was written mistaking Taiora for canon and the dub made it worse by literally putting a song about a rough relationship over it
>>570527261>>570528058This. I wonder how people (shitppers) nowadays would react to Rouge using Shadow’s trauma to distract him in X.
>>570528553
Knuxouge is more similar to Vegebul than Shadouge.
>>570528806shadouge fags like archie and don't like sonic x
>>570528768
>>570528569Nah, Z gets it right all the way til the end of the show.This >>570528564 anon is right but it isnt allowed down to Super. Super just made an existing problem worse.There are a lot of fans of the ship that embrace og height though.
>>570528553Amy's kaiju husband
>>570525959Krystal has children older than Tails.
>>570528971>allowed*all
>>570528831There’s probably a lot of things that suit Knuckles over Shadow that his fans like to attribute to him, namely the tsundere bit.>>570528915>They like the most OOC Shadow has been over a closer versionGee I wonder why
>DBSOk for one moment I just want to complain about how Bulma is currently conscious of who Mai and Pilaf are but still "Adopted" them and is forcing Mai to go to school with her son. Why is she trying to fucking breed her own Son? There is a scene where she sees Trunks flirting with Mai and she smirks. She is literally trying to make her son fuck the woman who tormented her as a kid. What the fuck Toriyama?
>>570529103>CommandIm noticing a pattern where Western writers seem incapable of using women for anything other than on again off relationship melodrama
>>570529143Imagine a power move greater than forcing your enemies to live in your house with your hormonal son and she can't do anything about it
>>570529143I’m guessing you don’t know about Toriyama being a lolicon as well as not giving a fuck about ships except when he finds it funny. I think Gohan and Videl may be the only exception. Given the odd morality the characters have, it’s not surprising Bulma doesn’t give much of a shit.
>>570529393I said it before but Gohan and Videl unironically have too much chemistry and it makes them distracting in the Buu saga because I hate seeing the arc shift away from them on rewatch but it has to because this isn't what DB is about
>>570526953Sonic's wife on the left.
>>570529393>I think Gohan and Videl may be the only exception.Yeah and in that case its because he was mirroring Superman and Lois Lane.
>>570529394Who's gonna tell him?
>>570529585Trigger makes Sonic, what happens?
>>570529585Tell him what?
I think Sonic would dislike the Know Nothings because they were like Republicans in the 1860s like Lincoln except racist anti Catholic and want to stop immigration or something.
>>570529483Agreed! And yeah you can feel Toriyama basically being like "oh wait this is DragonBall" in real time with how it pivots out of great saiyaman stuff and the tournament into the Buu saga proper.
>>570529686>I think Sonic would [off-topic trash]>>>/pol/
>>570529676Sonic X exists.
>>570529831it's like if big's fishing was actually insanely engaging it's the chao garden of dbz
>>570529885I'm pretty sure he already knows. He clearly means a new anime in the current era after the success of the movies and Frontiers being the best selling non-bundle Sonic game
I am feeling insecure about the fact that there's not many places online where there's the masculine side of Sonic media. I want a place just for guys like me. And 4chan despite its reputation is not it, even if it has more free speech than social media.
>>570529686mass immigration is ethnocide
>>570529885that's the thing, it exists but it's likely not discussed about due to it flopping in japan
Japan is not important anymore. We know this because IDW is not important there despite being important to the brand.Japan will be left in the dust when IDW starts being important to the story of the games
>>570530010you mean a place where people like action, battles, and don't argue about shipping
>>570530110>Japan is not important anymoreIt took you this long to realize this?
Japan wants Scourge and Sally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXhQ9a4WVNIThis interviewer is terrible and keeps asking about things Iizuka can't answer
>>570529483>this isn't what DB is about>>570529831>pivots out of great saiyaman stuff and the tournament I mean that stuff is kinda what early DB was about, I felt like the Great Saiyaman/Tournament stuff was like a throwback to that stuff. Really the Buu arc kinda an overview of everything DB was up to that point sorta like SA1.
>>570530429>sorta like SA1.Yeah
>>570530386>Will sally acorn comeback>What he facku, no shally ahkorne rill not be retvrn. *ruaghs*Wtf!?
>>570530386Sonic fans have very poor communication skills and self-awareness and don't possess the skills necessary to navigate a conversation with a businessman like Iizuka.
>>570530607Scharrie...
>>570530110IDW isn't important in the west either going by the sales lol.
>>570530386You now remember that time Iizuka went to a fan event and was literally asked what would Sonic do if he met the Joker.
>>570530772Then /sthg/ was spammed with joker related posts.
anons, if sega were to actually give in to demands and commission a new sonic anime. what studio (other than their own TMS) do you think they'd get to work on it?
I wish amatuer interviewers understood these things>the game dev cannot break nda>the game dev will not announce a whole new game in this interview>you can ask for clarification on older games>you can ask for clarification on older stories>you can't ask what the next game will be about
>>570530857QueenBee.
>>570530336>Bringing up Sally when she's not mentioned in the pic.Keep coping, Sallybro.
Do you think Ian Flynn will get dropped by Sega in favor of a the Japanese writer Sonic Team is looking for or will Ian continue to write?
>>570530386Only one of the questions got answered because the guy kept asking about behind the scenes future media wtf
>>570530772I wonder if that in part influenced the DC crossover
>>570531168Ian is dirt cheep, but he will be pic related as he is forced to write IC Sonic cast.
>>570530965It's not just about "amateur" interviewers. All interviewers do this. It's how you get attention grabbing titles>HEAD OF SONIC TEAM SAYS HE WOULD LIKE TO REMAKE SONIC ADVENTURE 3 SOMEDAY
>>570531282Should have been Marvel. So Sonic can call FRAUD-Man a bitch and do his job better, then he puts his suit in the trash before webbing a noose, while Sonic Crossesover with the actual GOOD cast members of Marvel, like CHADulk.
>>570530971who are they, couldn't find anything about them on wikipedia and MAL
What Sonic questions would you ask Iizuka?
>>570523453DON'T CARE ABOUT SHIPSJUST WANT TO FUCK SARA'S TITS
>>570531448Sonic and his human boyfriends.
>>570531291That's what Sonic Team better do - put a tight leash on Ian
>>570531539I think it was some hentai studio or something I forget I wanted to set up a joke but I lack to much knowledge to properly make one.
>>570531168IDK but ST/Sega still needs someone to localize stuff and Ian seems easy to work with, which is usually the most important thing.
Barry the homo, he's gay for me anon.We kiss.
>>570531743St/Sega needs to make sure he's writing the characters correctly in the English version though, especially Amy. She's his favorite target of attack. I don't trust Ian with writing and he needs to be let go
>>570530429>I mean that stuff is kinda what early DB was about, I felt like the Great Saiyaman/Tournament stuff was like a throwback to that stuff.I was kinda thinking this after I posted. It doesn't feel more like OG DB which is my fave part of DB overall as well.
>>570531731
>>570531941Toriyama: I don't write romance because I'm not good at itToriyama:
>>570531731The new Elsagate, just AI slop
>>570531463>Should have been Marvel.Kys
>>570530739It is to Sega.
‘iona the Fi’. Oh where for thou might be?
>>570531731Apparently, there's a fetish for kicking pregnant people out.
>>570531463Don't worry, Sonic will probably crossover with Marvel as well soon. This is nothing but a crossoverwhore franchise now.
>>570532227DC is lame, no hulk in it.
>>570531581CHADzuka-dono, what are some things that influenced and inspired thr design of Sonic 3&K? Particularly when it comes to Mecha Sonic?What was the thought process behind making Amy go Invisible in 06?How do you keep pushing forward eith the series through its ups and downs? Does Sonic inspires you to do so in a sense?
>>570532181>newThis stuff never stopped
>>570532342Maybe a fetish for kicking pregnant people.
>>570531589That Sarah is a fraud. Sara is booty focused
>>570531581*falls to knees and start sucking his cock*
>>570531463>CHADulkYou post here? Is everyone on /co/ just on /sthg/ too?
>>570532342Is that why I keep seeing mobile game ads of a mother and her child getting thrown out
>>570532674I don't post on /co/, just have passig interests in things outside of CHAdnic sometimes.
How long was it between lanolin's rumble datamine and release? I've been waiting for kit but I'm getting irked.
>>570532421>DC is lame, no hulk in it.Doomsday too.
Here is this sthg thread but everyone talks like Flanders.https://poe.com/preview/yhOBSp5Yzkd5GXsti08H
>>570531581Why wasn't Amy playable in Sonic Adventure 2?Why did the English version of Shadow 05 have all the swearing in it while the Japanese version didn't?Why did Sonic abandon his promise to take Amy out on a date that he made in Unleashed?Has Sonic Team considered expanding on Silver's future?
>>570532674Yes!
>>570532887Joynic, Neutraze, and PISSEDver.
>>570532094Toriyama is modest lol. Its a shame too because once Videl has to leave that original setting she stops working as a character.
>>570532421Hulk doesn't work in the Sonic setting anyway though. His anger trauma angst doesnt gel with Sonic's m.o.DC works because they are paragods
>>570533117Toriyama forgot her entire character and she's literally nothing more than Gohan's wife after Z.
Fiona Fox
>>570532674There aren't any Transformers threads on /co/ anymore. And even when there were, they were really really gay.
>as if /sthg/ isn't a little gay
>>570532589DON'T CARE ABOUT SHIPSJUST WANT TO FUCK SARA'S TITS
>>570533284My exposure to the TF fandom has always been gay, even more gay then the Sonic fandom
Sonic is humping my leg again!
>>570533252She's a martial arts teacher and had that moment with Barry Khan. Also her fit is cute.I think Super Videl is overhated. I dont really see what else she realistically could have done as a character.
>>570533523It's funny that from the average civlian's perspective in DB the world is basically the same as our own to the point that she was surprised by people flying and shooting energy >>570532887Who is the artist behind the original version of this image with all the characters?
The worst outcome would be if Ian Flynn does get dropped but then due to Flynntards complaining on Twitter, he gets hired back just like how Roger Craig Smith decided to quit voicing Sonic but then due to his pathetic fanboys complaining, he got hired back and now we're stuck with him. I'm sick of Sega. They listen to all the wrong people
>>570533923The worst outcome is flynn leaves and it turns out archiefags were right and he was the best combination of someone who could write and also cares about sonic. I think that's a legitimate possibility. You can't just replace Ian with a random windfag and get good writing.
>>570534041I could do it... I could...You see I'd write in sonic doing something cool, l-like a flip and Amy is their and she s-sex-sez "waow" and claps n stuff and, and it'd be pretty epic n stuff, knuckles will uh eat pasta, like ravioli..
>>570530965I wish amateur interviewers understood the value in asking "softball" or "flavor" questions that don't necessarily fish for scoops.For example, if I had access to do a Q&A with Iizuka knowing he basically solo'd ~half of Sonic Heroes I'd ask:>What stages that you worked on in Heroes were most memorable? Most challenging?>Have you replayed any Sonic titles recently? If so, what mechanics/gimmicks did you find fun?>How's a day in the life of Sonic Team's studio presently?>Has your design philosophy or planning methods for how you develop Sonic titles changed much over time? What has been the biggest shift and what has mostly remained the same?>What something you think many fans of the games miss when playing them that they should focus/revisit?Often the most open-ended questions that allow the interviewee breathing room to elaborate upon at will/in their thoughts, can give the most interesting/new information bits.
>>570534041He doesn't care about Sonic. He constantly removes Amy's love for Sonic, he likes to make Shadow job, and he likes to shoehorn song lyrics as dialogue. He wants to turn the franchise into his own fan fiction and he just wants to leave behind his name and legacy on Sonic stuff out of pure ego. He should've been dropped when he admitted he aimed to get Amy to stop loving Sonic because he didn't like their dynamic
people rarely ask characterization questions in interviews unless its about shipping and they always get the answer shot down
>>570534041Im a Windfag and even i have this concern which is why I rather he just be leeched rather than just dropped.
>>570533923This is why Ian straight up needs to be cancelled so his own fans won't want him back.>>570534041Shut up, Archiefag. You're not being subtle.
>>570534393So you fire Ian for not understanding Sonic and being too much of an Archiefag. Then what are you going to do? Is Evan going to fill in the blanks? Would you be happy if you got stuck with her? Chances are you are not going to get a japanese shonen writer to write the games and even if you do there is no guarantee they care about Amy. If you hire Daniel Barnes you're getting someone who thinks Espio is a fake larping ninja and can't keep his politics under control. Most writers are going to stick their favorite shit into the series. Even sthg's favorite guy Maekawa didn't strictly stick to the previous characterizations.
>>570534297This holy shit. Id love to hear his war stories from Heroes.
>>570534626>If you hire Daniel Barnes you're getting someone who thinks Espio is a fake larping ninja and can't keep his politics under control.Espio rarely gets written correctly in IDW so this wouldn't really be much of a difference lol
Literally just get Imada to write Sonic.
>Hire a windfag writer>suddenly Sonic becomes King Super God and can lift 8 billion tons and get back up from literally being murdered because he's free like the wind>even if the story establishes that something is 100% supposed to kill you and be your Absolute Final Death he will get back up because muh fucking wind>He can PUNCH a villain to death who is CANONICALLY UNTOUCHABLE because muh will and determinationAnd we're supposed to believe Ian is worse than Blade of Courage
No clue what Flynn or Archie are I've only played some of the games
>>570534879ian is le bad because he sunk my ship and i can't self insert. he must have his mind full of that brown chipmunk
>>570534879>Flynnfags believe I'm supposed to hate this.
>>570534626I feel like Maekawa was decent enough to stick to the book more closely, I think everyone else just slams what they want to do first and foremost.That's the general problem with a lot of writers.Ian has a very specific idea of what sonic should be, and will try to mutate the franchise into that if given the chance. A lot of them are a bit to "immature" to really handle things like this, like Barnes with politics.And getting fans to write for you is a double edged sword as while you get some people who love the property, things like "fanon" exists for a reason and some people really only care about the headcanons they made over anything they got and frankly never will(boarding on a fake fan honestly)No real right way to go about it. I'd just want someone who would hopefully have a portfolio of writing stuff similar to sonic, and would be passionate enough to try their best.
>>570534626Literally no other writer tries to remove Amy's love. It's only Ian Flynn who does it. He's the problem. Ken Pontac and Warren Graff weren't biased and they just wrote whatever Sonic Team told them to write so I can imagine the same thing.>>570534873Yes. He hadn't even worked on Sonic before writing the Blade of Courage manga and he still wrote Sonic well
>>570534951Flynn is a mechanic in Sonic Heroes when you play Team Rose in Hard Mode, switching between Amy and Cream allows you to Flynn the enemies to go faster. Archie is one of the Werehog's attacks in Unleashed, but no one uses it because it's the last one you unlock and even then it's slower than most other moves.
>>570534951Of the Sonic games you have played, what's your least favorite level?
>>570534879CHADnic always gets back up, nothing can stop him because he's just POWERFUL.Even if he died he's so strong he would die standing, not even death would make him bend the knee.You? You are miserable thing with no heart or soul, unlike GODnic.
Krack has a boyfriend
>>570535359JOBnic died in 06 though
>>570535405Good. Now I can talk to her without sounding creepy.
>>570535405No, she's obese and lonely.
>>570534879>suddenly Sonic becomes King Super God and can lift 8 billion tons and get back up from literally beingWindfags wouldn't do that. They'd have Sonic have the shit beaten out of him repeatedly but have him get up and grin despite looking damaged, have Tails and Amy go "Sonic!!!" with worried faces, then look at eachother with determined faces and rush in to help him.Amy: "You're bozos better back off my Sonic!Tails: "We're always here to help"Sonic: "You're guys....."Hmmph!*Knuckles comes on and smashes through a bunch of dudes.Knuckles:"Look and you getting tossed around when I'm not here. What would you do without me".Sonic:*Smiles with a glareSonic: awesome job guys... let's show them what we can REALLY do!Everyone: YEAH!!4 MAN SUPERSONIC TEAM BLAST!!
>>570531168God, I fucking hope so. Most people don't stay employed with the number of infractions he has.
Krack, you're wrong about Silver and Blaze. There is no "preserving" Blaze's lore while she's with Silver. Pairing her with Silver throws out Rush and her relationship with Sonic which is the foundation if her character.Nobody actually cares about her rivalry with Sonic or Rush lore, they just want to sweep it under the rug. Blaze was ruined.
>>570535783Krack is a windfag so arguing with her means you automatically lose right?
>>570534879Archieshitters will tell you Sonic making sad faces over buildings around him being broken and his girlfriend not taking his calls because of a dumb argument they had the issue prior is preferable to thar literal kino.
>>570532892Poor guy just wanted some pants.
Sonic shippers: Let's argue over blatantly non canon thingsDigimon shippers: Even therapy cannot fix what I have lostPokemon shippers: Boy do I love putting the fear of Christ into the writers
Would Maria's small frame handle even one of Shadow's tentacles?
>>57053549406 is anti-sonic propaganda by SOA, I have no proof but it all makes sense.SOA HATES Sonic because they can't control Sonic because he's like the wind! So they hired American Ninjas to sneak in and replace JP workers with SOA staff in yellow paint squinting their eyes to ruin the next gen Sonic game by adding in glitches into the game, killing Sonic and giving sega info about how well the dev time was going so they'd split it for Sonic and the secret rings making sure these games had no legs to stand on, I mean look at how secret rings turned out, bad but it also had better writing but not 06??????? SOA killed the game because Sally Acorn from Archie is actually a real person and SHIPS herself with Sonic and was pissed about bestie rose, and they have to please her because she actually own SOA, and opperates underground base known as the knothole, as a Oppressor Fighter, and she hates Sonic's Freedom more than anything!1I don't have proof but i know this true it'as th true It'S TRUE TRUE TRUUUUEE OI KNOW IT YOU HAVE TOE BELIEVE MNE
>>570535873Krack only understands Shadow. My Blaze autism probably beats her out on this.
>Ian writes the script of Shadow Generations and the Japanese version is very similar in wording and meaning. Shadow is in character>Ian also writes the script of Frontiers and Amy tells Sonic "You still have love to share with world" while in Japanese she says "You haven't seen me as a lovely lady yet"What a disgusting double standard by Sonic Team
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>>570535783I agree with the screenshot
>>570535359EVEN WHEN HE DIES, HIS FRIENDS EILL CROSS THE CORNERS OF THE REMAINS OF TIME AND SPACE TO BRING HIM BACK SO HE CAN GO SUPER AND FIGHT GODS! LITERAL GODS!!!Yes THIS IS KINO. Fuck anyone who insists otherwise!
>>570535873>>570536212Fuck off krack
>>570535783>rivalry with SonicDoesn't exist
Sonic, shadow, and Silver are the trinity of homosexuality
Movie Sonic is doing the tom holland bull crap where he is endlessly developing into the real Sonic but never going to do it for real
>>570531168It would be such a fucking great day if that happened. Imagine the threads once the news dropped/
>>570536212Cause you don't like Rush or Blaze. You prefer her direction to be overly sentimental dogshit like Silvaze even though deep down you know it's shallow because you have no taste. It's that simple.
It is impossible to win against someone with nothing to lose.
>>570532342>>570532565>pregnant people...pregnant women?
>>570536401I like Rush and Blaze. I still agree with the screenshot
>>570535225>your least favorite level?NTA, but still Labyrinth Zone. I'd rather play any auto-scroller or death-pit infested DIMPS level that doesn't demand precise platforming from me while my movements feels like wading through a pool of molasses where enemies and traps aren't affected by the speed nerf. Did I mention the air bubbles are few and far between so drowning is a constant threat especially due to the recoil of getting hit when you're rushing to the next air pocket spawn point while the countdown graphic and music are hammering you? No water levels since are half as bad.The Zone is lucky it's BGM is so good.
>>570536321You hate Rush and Blaze.
>>570536410Sonic, unlike everyone else he has nothing lose, while every other character still have their virginity lose, sonic does not...
Say what you want about japfags but burgerfags will always be worse thanks to stuff like pic related
>>570536480Get good, Labyrinth is the best water level and one of the best levels in general
>>570536479Cool. You still prefer Silvaze slop because you have shit taste.
>>570536471Are you implying men can't get pregnant?I'll have you know, it's possible and think carefully before I make you the example of what pregnant man looks like, faggot.
>>570536606Sonic's wife on the left.
>>570534879Is this bait? That's pure Sonickino right there. Archiefags are retarded furfaggots who self-insert. Meanwhile JPchads want to believe he exists in their real world. That's why furfaggots are always trannies they're detached from reality
You are never getting 2000s Amy back. Sonic Team doesn't care about her. She is just as dead as Sonally.
I'd prefer Blaze and Silver being a team because both of them are assholes and want them to rape everyone, if Blaze fought Sonic silver could fuck him from behind while blaze fucks his cock until sonic gets his prostrate milked and dick milked at once.
>>570536764Sonic's wife on the left again.
>>570535783but she's right. you know they're not going to seperate silverand blaze right? might as well make the most of it. you dont have to get rid of silver for blaze to work plus rush adventure came after 06 right?
>>570536480>The Zone is lucky it's BGM is so good.It sounds likr its trolling you though. At least thats the vibe I always get.
Anyone who supports Silvaze and thinks it doesn't damage Blaze's character never touched Sonic Rush in their life.
Silver and Blaze already already "work", you can't fix them without throwing everything out. Sonic Team is doing exactly what they want with them. It's just fucking shit. The conceit of their characters doesn't actually manifest in ways that satisfy anyone. You have to he satisfied with the conceit itself.
>>570535783>Rush lore>The game where Amy and Knuckles take a backseat for reasons and where it makes Knuckles noticeably worse in favor of BlazeGood, fuck Blazefags
>>570536526I love Rush and Blazey. I want her to be a character eho can explore dynamics and relationships in general rather than br shackled to either hedgehog.Blaze is a noble and Rouge is a thief. That should be a slam dunk dynamic and yet we never have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Tj7A-LNzgNight
Why is Krack the only windfag here people disagree with
>>570536939>you can't fix them without throwing everything out.Silverfag cope. Blaze without Silver is just regular Rush Blaze.
>>570536526The fact that you believe Blaze should be restricted to Rush shows just how useless she is in current day fyi
>>570536607NTA but no. It has a lot of cheap shot instant death bullshit like the platforms hidden underground that rize anf crush you under spikes you cant see before its too late.Fuck apologists. At least be like Eggmanlandfags and embrace it's identity.
>>570537016She's a woman. Sthg hates women. Almost all female drawfags got bullied out.
>>570536839>make the most of itsee >>570536939There's no "fixing" them. It's been shit for 20 years. Silver Generations will be a retread of 06 and it won't change the status quo. Anyone who isn't happy with what we have with these characters will never be happy. They're unsalvagable. They are literally only good in filler now.
>>570536971They were paired in Murder, right?
>>570537016She's autisticShe's a womanShe's autisticHer favorite character is shadow and most shadow fags are autisticShe's a womanShe autistic.
>>570535783>Relationship with Sonic and not Cream and Amy>RivalryKek
Silver and Blaze had two handheld games without each other and did just fine. In fact, those games are used to educate people on their proper characterization.
>>570537101You can see those platforms sticking out of the ground. Sonic 1 haters really just suck at video games.
>>570536696That post proves Archiefurfaggotry is a choice. Shits worse than I feared.
Everyone loves the idea of a new Maekawa style writer, at least until their original character they made starts taking over the franchise
>>570537016Despite trying to worship feminism there's nothing people hate more than females with strong opinions who don't listen to the majority
>>570537101I don't know what you're talking about in either part of your post. Those platforms aren't an issue for me since I know how to play the game, and I don't know what that nonsense about apologists or identity is. Eggmanland is also the best stage in Unleashed, at least during the story
>>570537237>>570537090I've explained Rush and Blaze's relationship to Sonic a million times. You just don't get it or don't like it. That's fine.
>>570537004Sonic's wife on the right.
>>570537004Goodnight Kitfriend
Eggmanland is the best Sonic Stage.
>>570537278that image made my pussy twitch. blue hedgehogs should not look so sex.
>>570537341>I’ve explained-I don’t care for shit I wasn’t there for lol. I do get that she’s just as restricted being near Sonic though.
>>570537201Kinda
Nobody wants to "fix" Blaze. Even the people who want some grand connection between the Sol Emeralds and Iblis and the Jeweled Scepter don't consider how it relates to Sonic nor the Chaos Emeralds. It simply never comes up. Everyone who speaks of "fixing" Blaze is saying "how can we ignore Rush?".You can't. Her two directions are irreconcilable. I mean obviously, right? Sonic and Silver both are protagonist/ tritagonist with their own shit going in. She can only be the supporting cast for one of them. >>570537072I mean you can't fix their relationship without throwing everything about both of them out.
>>570537312Its "not an issue for you" because tou know where all the cheap bullshit is and know to avoid it by force of habit.
>>570537698It was never an issue for me the first time I played the game, I saw the obstacles and I learned to avoid them, and I got better at the game.
>>570537441
>>570537663The fact Blaze can just show up with the Sol Emeralds itself ignores Rush since it was established her world needs her emeralds on them to sustain itself.But you dont ever criticize that because you only pretend to care about Rush.
>>570537518then read up: https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2021/11/06/sonic-channel-wallpaper-cover-story-sonic-blaze-november-2021/>restrictedThat is a made up problem. Blaze is like Knuckles tier in terms of how she should be used. She's not Sonic (or Shadow or Silver).
>>570536480>BGMI like GG Labyrinth Zone better.https://youtu.be/iKmI8ZGvvWE
>>570536607>Get goodI refuse.>>570536876>It sounds likr its trolling you though. At least thats the vibe I always get.I've never gotten that feeling from it. The 4/5-lines of the rising and falling lead melodic phrase from Channel 0:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5cPwsAblI&t=36sSounded encouraging to me, if anything, to persevere through the acts. As if it were saying:>You get up / You fall down>You get back up / You fall back down>You get back up once more / You fall back down again>You keeping getting up / And still you keep falling down again>Just stand back up
>>570537876>Blaze is like Knuckles tierKnuckles isn't from another dimension where he is imperial princess and has 7 fuck off chaos emeralds on him he just uses to warp between space and time.
Summer!
Krack is right. Complaining that Blaze is connected to Silver is like complaining that Sonic isn't a freedom fighter. It's you vs Sega at that point.
>>570537928I actually agree>>570537965Idk for me it always sounded like the trololol meme.https://youtu.be/woySeSNBL3o
>>570538023Cutemy!
>>570537843I'm not a lore autist. The lore is in service of the story.The dimensions were going to collapse when the Sol Emeralds were out of control but Sonic still had the Chaos Emeralds. If the holders of the emeralds have them under control then the worlds won't collapse. Which is how Sonic and Blaze work. This is why Sonic and Blaze are able to restore each other (or the emeralds) using their control over them (symbolized by Super Sonic and Burning Blaze).
>>570538034>It's you vs Sega at that pointThe fandom at large is pretty much delusional with what it wants with half the cast vs what Sega does and will do
>>570538439>I'm not a lore autist. The lore is in service of the story.Blaze as a character doesnt offer anything to a story other than her lore though.
>My world is going to collapse soon without the Sol Emeralds>My world is in trouble because the Sol Emeralds aren't there>My world is eroding this world because of the Sol Emeralds>I need to collect the seven Sol Emeralds before it's too late>If the Sol Emeralds are gone too long we will all fucking dieIDW: >Shows up with all 7 Sol Emeralds and doesn't mention this
>>570538439>The dimensions were going to collapse when the Sol Emeralds were out of control but Sonic still had the Chaos Emeralds. If the holders of the emeralds have them under control then the worlds won't collapse.Then why did Blaze needs to go back to her dimension at the end of the game?The game frames it like a parting where they dont even know if or when they can even meet in the future.This is core to the ending of Rush and the tragedy of her dynamic with Sonic.But later games ignore it. You dont care though because tou hate Rush and hate Blaze and her relationship with Sonic.
>>570538687Sonic Team approved it though
>>570538034No Blaze still has her original direction. This isn't the case of some 3rd party, this is Sonic Team themselves fucking up their own canon creations and not using them correctly.I want people to understand what they aren't getting >>570538439 but we can't even do that because the fans and Sega only give a shit about Silvaze.
>>570538192GG Scrap Brain is also good and underratedhttps://youtu.be/IrIE04Koiqo
>>570538192If that's where your mind is coming from, then yeah I can see it.The only real blatant troll theme in Sonic though is the Spinball Options BGM:Because beyond the player earrape-inducing tesla coils lies an embedded "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" melodic taunt on Channel 1:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyah_nyah_nyah_nyah_nyah_nyahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzUB0a0OwWM&t=50s
>>570538735Shut the fuck up Ian
>>570538728>why did Blaze need to go backCause she and Sonic are different people and they have their own worlds and loves to lead. Which is why you have Amy chasing Sonic at the end of Rush. It's a return to the normalcy of his life.>tragedy of their dynamicThey hit these notes in Rush Adventure (Marine gets in on this too), Sonic Channel and IDW which are the only other stories which reasonably engage her character and their relationship so idk what you're even asking.
i managed to somehow crack sonic gather battle. It is actually their own (i think?) xor encrypted layer of obfuscated pe headers which contain obfuscated molebox 4 layer (that's why it stopped working after a win 10 update in 2018), which contains badly scribbled exe + files packed into a virtual filesystem. Sadly it only consists of parent path names and not the full filenames. By bruteforcing, comparing with 1.1d and analyzing .txt files I managed to get down to approximately ~100 files left unnamed. what else is interesting: we now have access to the valid .exe and .dlls so smarter people can look into it and investigate. syslib.dll is the game's main dll that patches the exe in real time. I can already see the blacklisted window names:syslib, llyice, dbg, game master, cheat, hack, ida, debug, 32asmin the archive I appended the most untouched exe I could get that at least launches. The game is automatically enabled in DRM 1 mode with blue background and Fakery Way bgm. It can also crash if it tries to load an unresolved file.I think it's now pretty safe considering all the links it tries to connect throws file not found and sonicbattle.ga not being hosted anymore. Please, if you can contribute to the analysis, here's what you can do with the game:the game won't boot because it relies on web requests. open syslib.dll in a hex editor:first sonicbattle.ga check>at 0x032793 replace: 33 ED 6A 00 6A -> E9 3E 03 00 00version checker>at 0x032B0A replace: 8B 15 00 39 46 01 -> E9 9F 00 00 00 90now the game runs and you can play in a DRM 1 activated mode. If someone is eager to finally investigate Sonic Gather Battle:https://www.mediafire.com/file/4gmcyzyjdx2wevy/release.7z/file
Got to wait two months before AYN Thor shows up, at least I can prepare by getting the accessories while I wait for it, but I'm so excited to have a full on Sonic machine on the go, makes me wish we had even more rush gamesPlanet Wisp for gens isn't as bad as people make it out to be, while I'd like more 3D in it, I still do get a decent amount of enjoyment from trying to cut the corners through the level, although I do wish they used something other than the Rocket Wisp, Rocket is kind of lame, I think drill would have been much cooler and has a better pace to it, Rocket just feels like a pace braker to use.I also got a mod called Unleashed additions for Gens and it actually adds white wisp capsules and they restore boost like colors, not as useful when you get boost off of rings but it's a nice detail. And it fixes that one route with the slower top path, with the falling platoforms everywhere.
Blazefags don't care enough about their shitty cat and her garbage lore to bring up the gigantic retcon of IDW having Blaze show up in Sonic's world with the Sol Emeralds even though her world is drawn to the Sol Emeralds which would put both worlds in danger of collapsing. It's just because they (Blazeleeches) want to fuck the cat and selfinsert as Sonic so they're mad a cutie like Silver stole their bitch so they say Silver destroys Blazes lore even though they literally dont care enough to remember the main plot point of Rush.
>>570538791I love how Megaman-y it sounds. Its kino
>>570538791>>570539282It honestly sounds more like one of the NES Castlevanias to me.
>>570536357>>570536753In case any of you haven't done it yet, kindly contact SOJ and tell them to closely watch over how Amy's written in the English media and tell them you want the English and Japanese dialogue to be in-character and similar to each other. Put pressure on them
Real besties
This game is good.
>>570538687Just a guess, but I feel like "stolen" is an important modifier here. If the Sol Emeralds travel with their guardian to other places it wont disrupt Blaze's World because it is a "willing" transfer on the Emerald's part.Also, the last few quotes seems to imply that the cause of Blaze's World potentially collapsing is because it is being forcibly merged to Sonic's World.
>>570539208>Sonic: Both Eggmen knew the secret of the emeralds, right? It's why the world didn't completely fall apart when the emeralds were together. Everything should be fine since I have the seven Chaos Emeralds. As long as the person holding the emeralds can control them... And knows how to use them, nothing can go wrong. And Blaze... Now you have the power. You understand what I mean, right?Now that Blaze controls the Sol Emeralds the dimensional collapse isn't a problem.Silver doesn't destroy Blaze's lore it totally ignores it for a shitty tanabata analog with no lore.
>>570539063Here is also gather battle 1.1d without molebox 4, so all assets are unpacked and you can see the real .exe and .dll. And it can properly launch on modern machines.https://www.mediafire.com/file/qcsako9murkgzxn/1.1d_no_molebox.7z/file
>>570539047>Cause she and Sonic are different people and they have their own worlds and loves to lead. Which is why you have Amy chasing Sonic at the end of Rush. It's a return to the normalcy of his life.You completely dodged the fact reality physically tears them appart and sends them back to their own worlds.The dimensions literally keep them appart.Sonic Channel even says "it is for the best and thr nature of their dynamic that they are to be appart and remain in their respective worlds".Realistically Blaze shouldnt be showing up at all unless some interdimensional nonsense happens by that logic.>they hit these notes in Rush Adventure.No they don't. Rush Adventure's goodbye is centered on Marine and ends with her saying she will grow as an adventuerer and find a way to get to Sonic's world one day.Has jack shit to do with Blaze nor is it tragic.You hate Rush. You hate Rush Adventure. And like a lot of Blazefags you HATE Marine. Im gonna fucking scream....
explaining basic shit about blaze to people who don't even like her ad nauseum general
>>570539557Glad I skipped this one, and the 3DS version, I had the demo, and it felt fun but never got around to owning so I looked up the games to see a full playthrough of it and man it looks annoying. I might emulate it down the road just to say I experienced it at the least.
Kissing Tails...
>>570539129I'm replaying Generations, haven't gotten to Planet Wisp but I remember disliking it. But I'm not very fond of Generations in general. I like it in Colors though
>>570539756No, we are not doing this. Blazefags are not like Sonicfags. Sonicfags have a legitimate argument that the comics mischaracterize him. Blazefags are up against SONIC TEAM. You can't just argue for the rest of your life that Sonic Team is wrong about Blaze. It's pointless. It's true that her character was warped to fit Silver but what is supposed to happen now? That is almost 20 years of content.
>>570539129>>570539853 (Me)Also, I remember the Rocket Wisp being slow in Generations, but it was a lot quicker in Colors. That's part of why I prefer Colors, though far from the only reason>>570539063>>570539679Oh wow, nice job anon. I'm not sure anyone still cares about that game, but I like seeing this sort of work
>>570539602The stated reason is that her world needs them to nourish it.
>>570539063>>570539679Not gonna touch this one with a 10ft pole personally but it's good to know someone took the time to do this. The fucker who made this deserves far worse than having his game cracked for the stupid shit he pulled.
>>570539714I didn't bring up the dimensions tearing them apart because it's allegorical for the dynamic I already described.Sonic and Blaze have their own moment before Marine's final goodbye. They also talk about how the emeralds are helping send them home. And how Sonic was brought there for a reason.As mentioned Sonic Channel said it's best and the nature for them to be apart. That's what the emeralds facilitate.
>>570540163what exactly was wrong with gather battle again, something about malware? how bad?
>sonaze fans still coping after getting btfo last month
>>570540201>I didn't bring up the dimensions tearing them apart because it's allegorical for the dynamic I already described.Its literal as well and that literal element is important. Blaze just being able to show up with the wave of her hands ruins the dynamic and symbolism between the characters and their dynamic.Fuck off. You hate Blaze ans hate Rush.
Silverfags only pretend to like Blaze because he has no one. The moment Silver actually gets a cast from his future, you'll see just how fast they drop her.
>>570530386>Iizuka offers advice on keeping it Sonic like and how the characters should actbestiesisters... I though 2027 was our year...
>>570539972>what is supposed to happen nowThe same exact status quo of the last 20 years. Silver and Blaze remain in tanabata slop jail, their dynamic will continue to he lackluster, they will continue to be mischaracterized, and Blaze gets crumbs for her actual direction. One day we'll get a follow-up to 06 that will nuke anyones hope for anything different.>20 years of contentIt's 20 years of fucking nothing. These are static characters. From Blaze's perspective only Rush matters. You could throw everything that she's ever done after Rush out. Her character bios reflect this.
>>570539853I think gens has slighlty worse physics than unleashed, it's a step forward and back. I like that you can air dash backwards, but hate how small the distance you travel with it is, add on the fact the momentum from it dies instantly while in unleashed you still went forward a bit so it was more smooth, and gens having some weird presentation issues, like the hominh trail vanish instantly unlike unleashed, Quick Step having Zero sound, you just have much less momentum in general, you can really feel it in and unleashed stage mods, Sonic just doesn't flow correctly.Drift in unleashed I think even after getting good with it still felt a little looser than I'd like and Gens makes it way to tight, tomp no longer carries momentum. I like the tricks and I do like how the stomp doesn't always link into a slide as quickly as unleashed does, it felt like I had a 30% chance to slide off a switch and need to jump back on. I don't think you can jump out of a stomp in generations as fast as you can in unleashed making it feel slower.And gens City Escape is kind of boring, I liked first run through, but the stage is super short, 40% is the snow board 20% is the stage, and the other 40% is the gun truck chase. Speed Highway at least makes up for City Escape being aggressively mid.
>>570540542Iizuka and Naka have literally never cared about Amy Rose Even when Sally's relationship with Sonic was gutted, it wasn't for Amy's sake, it was because the very concept was OOC.
>>570539557This looks EXCEEDINGLY painful for Sonic.
>>570539756None of them give a fuck about Blaze beyond shipping and glazing Silver. You can tell by the automatic hostility to Rush.
>>570540605>Even when Sally's relationship with Sonic was gutted, it wasn't for Amy's sake, it was because the very concept was OOC.I dont see what this has to do with whether or not Iizuka and Naka hate Amy.They let Sonic X happen so clearly they dont hate her.
>>570540259It had spyware that would trigger if the game suspected you of trying to modify its files, hack it, or if you even searched for hacks and cheats.The game would close your internet browser and folders tabs if you searched for restricted keywords like hack or cheat if the game was running in the background.It would also hash your system's info and send it to a remote server somewhere in the world so the owner could blacklist you.To intimidate you, the game would use those creepy ghosts, which make the game unplayable and it would also play sudden boss music
What if I liked Silver and liked rush?
>>570540782Explain how ot works.
>>570540731Sonic didn't end up in a relationship with Amy in Sonic X
>>570540529Silver isn't getting shit except more appearances in the present with his purple girlfriend. Silverfags aren't far behind Blazefags when it comes to refusing to accept what these characters are
Guys the big announcement of the next sonic central will be that sega donated 35 million dollars to the LGBTQ community to celebrate the anniversary with pride, yay
>>570540780Does it only care it's sonic gather battle cheats? Or let's say I looked up Sonic 1 Rom Hack would it see hack and then go apeshit anyways?
>>570540424>Silvazefag admits Silver monopolizing Blaze's direction was always about shipping for themExactly what I said then and what I said today. People don't actually care about respecting Blaze's character. It was always about burying her actual character for the sake of tanabata slop.>>570540475Look at some point you have to accept if you want characters to show up and for everything to be canon that certain storytelling elements will have to take a back seat. Like CrossWorlds is canon so idk how you want to reconcile that.
>>570540938I don't remember but there are Youtube videos explaining what the malicious game does. The developer did all this just because he didn't want his sprites stolen
>>570540870The entire fandom, both the inner and broadly, needs a fucking reality check that they are both unsalvagable shipping characters."Silver's future" isn't a setting.
>>570540860Me thinks Blaze was cooler in rush.Me thinks Silver bretty cool.Kool Kharakters should do kool things.I don't care about shipping personally, and in 06 I think she's supposed to be more of a mentor figure but she feels very stale in that context, and ideally better as her rush version of her character and interactions based on that version of the character are likely to be more interesting/entertaining.
>>570540574>you can air dash backwardsYou can? I'm trying right now and it seems to only be based on which direction Sonic is facing. I found it annoying multiple times today. Is it a skill, maybe?>hate how small the distance you travel with it is, add on the fact the momentum from it dies instantly while in unleashed you still went forward a bit so it was more smoothSame. Unleashed feels harder to control, Generations tries to fix that problem by making it slower and clunkier. The same applies to the Stomp>like the hominh trail vanish instantly unlike unleashedThe trail looks so cool in UnleashedI still don't understand how Drifting works in Unleashed. In Generations it's more manageable, but it feels kind of a pointless mechanic. I like the animation thoughAlso I find the stage layouts in Generations to be much less interesting
>>570540938Based on what I read a moment ago, it's just the word "hack", so yes that would trigger it
>>570540704Even neutral people (like Krack who started this) don't really seem to care. It's always "how can we fix Silver & Blaze by subsuming her character with Silvaze". Like you can't do that without ruining her. She has two seperate directions and they're just have to take turns disappointing both sides of her fanbase.
>>570541279>You can? I'm trying right now and it seems to only be based on which direction Sonic is facing. I found it annoying multiple times today. Is it a skill, maybe? That's strange, it's not skill. You just hold back on the analog and you can air dash backwards even when facing forward.>I still don't understand how Drifting works in Unleashed. In Generations it's more manageable, but it feels kind of a pointless mechanic. I like the animation thoughDrifting in unleashed requires you to stop boosting, then turn to the opposite direction of where you want to drift then dirfting back into the turn. It's the same as how drift in racing games aparently I don't play racing games that much.>>570541370That's dumb considering that even back then Sonic has a decently sized hacking community, so it's targeting people who just wanted Sonic to play knuckles in Sonic CD. But the whole thing with Gather Battle is insanely dumb.
>>570539808>Glad I skipped this one, and the 3DS versionI've played both and they're both bad. And the writing is terrible. There is not one redeeming feature in Lost World. Not a single thing.
>>570541737No, it just doesn't work for me. What version are you playing?
>>570540605>>570540731>>570540731Iizuka only cares about Shadow but I'm angry at both him and Yuji Naka because they never cared about Amy. They just used her for mean-spirited jokes instead of using her to her full potential by letting her be in a romantic relationship with Sonic, which they hypocritically almost allowed in Sonic X but not in the games.Well, now Iizuka is going to have to give Amy's character the good treatment it deserves even if it pains him since Amy is not his pet character Shadow
>>570541843PC, unless it's somehow from a mod since I have some on but all of them keep the game vanilla and had no mention of this as a feature.
>>570541849Y'all keep spouting this shit yet Shadow is the worst character in IDW.
>>570541949I'm playing the original 2011 release on Xbox 360, maybe they just changed it
>>570542027Yeah I removed my mods and it still works, ether a version difference, now I'm curious if it's actually a glitch and I'm not supposed to be able to do that. I might have to redownload the Gens side of shadow gens to see if this exists in that version or not.
I need to be free from this slop franchise.
>>570540147Okay I looked up the English version, it seems like as long as the person holding the Emerald has mastery over them, they can occupy the same space as the Chaos Emeralds and leave their home dimension without causing a collapse, and Blaze didn't know what she was talking about through most of Rush because, in Sonic, guardians are ill-informed about what they are guarding.This is probably the logic IDW is working with and why Blaze can bring the Sol Emeralds to Sonic's World.Is this accurate to the Japanese version?
>>570542509>I need to be freeLIKE THE
>>570541952IDW hates Shadow that much and put an effort to shit on him.
>>570541849>I'm mad because my headcanon goes against the core tenets upon which the franchise was created and I didn't realize it until recently because I'm autistic and transClassic Amyfan moment
06 is 20 years old now. Blaze and Silver are a part of each other.
>>570542553Yes it's like I said >>570538439
>>570543101They double team Sonic...
https://files.catbox.moe/sxjmss.mp4Rouge the Fartbat
>>570543101unsalvagable characters
silver unironically is the biggest fucking tumor on this franchise if this general is anything to go bymy fucking god
>>570543101>Blaze and Silver are a part of each other.Hasn't been relevant in a plot since 06.
Blazefags need to get over it
>>570543484Honestly it's Shadow, but that's a controversial take.>Locked out Classic characters>Locked in humans and One World>Gets the most preferential treatment and the most granular notes behind the scenesNot even saying Shadow's a bad character or anything, but If you don't vibe with Shadow you are gonna struggle with this series.
>>570543484Silver, Silvaze, Elise, Soleanna, Iblis, and Mephiles have fuckall to do with anything. 06 was a fucking mistake. It's a quasi storybook game from a "Sonic in da real world" brain fart and a hodge podge of fairy tales that weaseled its way into the main canon.I'll even take whatever is going on with the Ancients over that fantasy japslop nonsense.
>>570539845who is she
silver imprisoned in tanabata jail forever with conjugal visits from blaze
>>570542736It doesn’t go against the franchise and I’m not trans
Everything up till SA1 was just iterating on the core concepts, SA2 was the first and last sequel, and 06 was when they just started throwing shit at the wall.
>>570542509>>570542582https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KkQCxXUEBQ
sonic moments for this feel? https://youtu.be/EHhnnymXZn0?t=829
Shadow didn't work in Archie because half the cast in it had tragic backstories and just made him feel like a piss in the ocean while in the games his tragic backstory is suppose to set him apart from most of the cast and change the tone of a story.
>>570545221Are you me? I always felt like that was the reason he was written completely away from the freedom fighters. All of them lost people.
>>570543856The Ancients are boring, though.
>>570543745Nah, it's Silver.
Hey /sthg/I just wanted to say that I haven't posted on here in awhile. Oh boy had my life gone swell. I'm finally in love again! I'm going to ask her out soon, but I'm 100% confident I have it in the bag. Furthermore I'm doing a ton of shit soon. It's crazy to think that I don't care about Sonic anymore. It's strange, but nice! Don't get me wrong I've loved my time in the fandom, on here, playing the videogames, and reading Archie and some of IDW. Though admittedly I listened to a video essay on Fleetway by some johnny guy and it was cool. That being said I wonder what the next game is gonna be like. I'm excited to see what happens. I hope you're all having great days or nights btw. How have your lives been going? I hope you're all doing fine! Have you played any Sonic games lately? Still drawing fanart or shipart? Is Crash X Shadow, that one weird Sonic X Eggman fic, or Scratch still relevant? I'm all ears and excited to hear.
Silver and Blaze is a fan issue. Silver and Blaze barely talk to each other. 06 isn't canon because it was erased. 06 was meant to he a soft reboot. Maekawa said they wanted to retcon Blaze to be from the future. Sonic Team hates them together. IDW isn't allowed to explore their settings. Sonic Team will give Silver his own cast soon. We just haven't had time to explore their dynamic.
>>570545815>Sonurgewhoa
>>570545940>Sonic Team will give Silver his own cast soonIt's been twenty years bro. Let go of your headcanon
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>A closeted lesbian?>That's no good!
>>570546370no trust me bro they'll write him and blaze out of a corner and give him an entirely new setting and cast and lore and
>>570537876So does Blaze just not have anything going for her in her own world? Why does she need to go to Sonic’s world to have any sort of connection? To the point where she can’t take a vacation in her own world? Why did Marine have to stay back? She barely does anything of importance anyway, she’s better off being the star of her own stories, ironically like Archie did when she didn’t have to interact with a male hedgehog.
https://files.catbox.moe/xc7zqn.mp4Sonic X Shadow Takeover Intro ANIMATED
>>570547196Kirk has never been a good Shadow voice and never will be.
>>570547196i kek
sa2 established modern sonic as a world with a hard-scifi edge where there were government space stations 50 years ago. That setting seemed to last for Shth and 06 (Heroes was explicitly aimed at newcomers) and then it died when 06 failed.
>really, nigga?
>>570547658I hate Sonic team. first they make a broken game that mind breaks everyone in and outside sega. they roll over everything and delete everything I liked in the games. and to ensure "consistency" they nuked Archie out of existence and gave us that sloppy comic book about people taking estrogen
>>570547196She... She's watching... Always watching...
Sonic Movie 44 means death in JapaneseIt's the death of Sonic
>>570547658>>570547936It really can't be overstated just how badly the failure of 06 hurt the series. Sega recoiled so hard to protect themselves that they killed off so much of what people liked about the most recent games at the time.
>>570547331Just play with the JP Cast. Kirkdow isn't leaving.
Which tentacle is your favorite?
>>570548181Will Sonic finally die?
>>570547196the mouth swinging around the muzzle depending of the camera is fucking amazing, you love to see it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Y40z_tOdI
>>570548559The movie franchise hinges on whether or not they turn Amy into a franchise killer or not.
when i saw a bunch of old boomers cheering on sonic 4 i thought the entire internet lost its fucking mind.
>>570548897classicfags were a bunch of autists no different than anyone else in the fandom. but sega chose to listen to them specifically.
>>570547658I completely agree. See >>570543856The game is a complete brain fart. Everything about it lore-wise was a fucking disaster because it was a confused mess of merging the two worlds and realism and fairytale shit.
>>570535783Krack shut the fuck up. I'm tired of these fucking silvazefags trying to weasel worm people into accepting Silvaze because they know it's it's a topic of debate right now threatening their ship>uwu nooo guys we can't separate them, it's been 20 years, we should try to work with the lore they have instead of sacrificing it wahhhhWHAT FUCKING LORETHESE CHARACTERS HAVE FUCKING NOTHINGALL THEY HAVE IS A BROKEN FUCKING GAME THAT BARELY JUSTIFIES ITSELFIn the past 20 years of being glued together, they have done NOTHING. Nothing of worth, nothing of substance, not even hype moments and aura for the dbz faggots, only desperate silvazefags are trying to gaslight people into giving up on wanting them to be separated and Krack fell for the meme too. Silvaze is a pairing carried by fanfiction and headcanons, Blaze has 2 GAMES worth of material in her HOME SETTING that has NOTHING TO DO WITH SILVER. SHE DOES NOT NEED TO BE TIED DOWN TO HIM AND WORKS WITHOUT ANY OF THE 06 BULLSHIT AND ALL THAT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH SILVER AMOUNTED TO WAS HIDING HER ORIGINS WHILE RETARDS GENUINELY BELIEVE SHE CAME FROM HIS FUTURE FUCK OFFTHEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK FOR 20 YEARS AND ITS FUCKING NOTHING
>>570549010why two worlds would be confusing?, its basic anime shit that even pokemon or dragon ball do
>>570549104I mean they are supposed to have a dynamic based on being mirrors or some shit shit (still no actual lore) being a tanabata analog, and the Iblis shit.They just don't really do anything, and they wrote them into a corner.
>>570549215nta but literally none of the games actually establish two worlds in a way that is understandable to the audience
>>570547331He isn't but he's still better than Smith, although that's not a high bar. Shadow's best english voice actor is still the 1st one, and everyone else's are the 4kids/dark age ones
>>570549215The setting of 06 feels totally fucked and distinctly un-Soniclike.
>>570549104Uh oh, melty! Settle down Catto. You have to understand that Blaze failed to bring enough interest to sustain an audience by herself, which is why she’s in the benches with Silver and I guess Ariem.
Trying to make Silver and Blaze work ends up cannibalizing either side. In most cases that will always be blaze because she's female in a boys franchise. She will be made to go along with Silver.In the scenario you keep Silver around while focusing on her lore, he becomes a lackey to her, the sol dimension, Marine and Gardon like Evan's shitty fortune cards tries to do and ends up having nothing to do with his lore, his future, and his time travel element that only works in Sonic's world. He'd be put into the same spot Blaze is. They're incompatible when they both have so much going that has nothing to do with each other and making them about their relationship kills both of these aspects of their characters which is basically what the past 20 years have been.
>>570549523Why was Adventure and Adventure 2 ok?
>>570549104
>>570549554>You have to understand that Blaze failed to bring enough interest to sustain an audience by herselfThat happens when you don't use characters for a long period of time and make them do jack shit. Silver would be in the same boat as her and Knuckles if he weren't a hedgehog.
>>570549104Silvaze sucks but I can tell you’re a sonazefag so I find it funny that Ballze is forever in tanabata-matata kek
>>570549563the writers should just fuse them into one cat-hegeghog hermaphrodite hybrid character, and then reboot their backstory so that they're native to the current time and dimension, problem solved
>>570549721She got two games as a costar anon, way more than most characters. If she failed to gain any traction then welp. Also, has Silver even done anything of importance beyond being shit writing and being used to glaze IDW OCs? At least Knuckles got back some goodwill, the only character among the three deserving of it honestly.
>>570549592SA1 feels whimsical, the default for Sonic.SA2 is just realism.06 is realism injected with fantasy shit.I think Sonic has a problem having a consistent setting but 06 feels more out of place.
>>570550132Whats the difference between whimsical and fantasy?
>>570549723>I can tell you’re a sonazefagKill yourself, I am a blazefag that wants her WITH NONE OF THE HEDGEHOGS. I don't want her to be the last slice of bread for Sonic or Silver, fuck off with this shit. I don't talk enough shit about sonaze because as of now silvaze is a bigger problem from an official standpoint, but no I don't want her to leave Silver and them become another one of Sonic's followers, that defeats the whole point of letting her be her own thing. I want BLAZE in the SOL DIMENSION with her FRIENDS that are also FROM THE SOL DIMENSION and FIGHT BAD GUYS from HER DIMENSION alongside MARINE and GARDON and do that WITHOUT SONIC. Sonic Rush faggots are not getting off scot free, she's not water palace and and hideki beats while being Sonic's cheerleader. Falseflagging muh sonaze to diminish points against silvaze won't work with me, I need all of her ships to die in a hole so she can just be her own character where she's meant to be. It's a fucking poison that all you retards do is reduce her down to shipping.
>>570549981>She got two games as a costar anonIn an era where Sonic was a laughing stock and reviewers hated Sonic's shitty friends and even Shadow was mocked. Hasn't done anything since.
>>570550202Erm actually. Blaze has already defeated all her villains:^)
I can’t say I feel too sorry for Blaze anymore given the treatment of Marine by her fans. It’s funny to see them latch onto her these days as if that will save their waifu
Blaze is kind of a worthless character in the grand scheme of things
>>570550534So are the rest of the stoopid friends. no one matters except sonic and shadow
>>570550202Ah, I apologize then anon.
>>570550575Shadow doesn't matter either, he has literally nothing to do
>>570550619then neither does Sonic. he only does anything if bad guy shows up. Only Eggman matters. the rest are worthless plot devices
>>570550192idk how to describe it but the vibe of the setting and lore in 06 feels off from what I expect Sonic to be. Maybe a better word for it is *realistic* fantasy, not whimsical fantasy like I expect.
>>570550713It IS off. No other game in the series is like it, except Frontiers.
>>570550713I guess I almost get it. The thing is it's hard to describe something that "feels like Sonic" while also describing a modern Sonic thing since the modern Sonic games have only had a consistent setting during the adventure era.
>>570550801This is what party games should look like
Marine wants to go on adventures and explore and have fun, but she wants to do that with her friends and on more than one occasion she's been left behind because they need an excuse to get rid of the "tertiary" character trailing behind Blaze. Tell me why Blaze and Marine adventures in the Sol Dimension isn't a natural course of their directions after Sonic Rush Adventure?
>>570550813True. Frontiers is most similar to 06. Not a fan of Frontiers either.>>570550850>Adventure>Adventure 2>ShtH>Battle>ChroniclesPretty good setting and vibes.
>>570550850>only had a consistent setting during the adventure era.Another reason I can't vibe with IDW and its background blobians. It's consistent with Forces which isn't consistent with any other game. They could have picked any other game to be the basis here. SA1, SA2. I don't know why faggots use Heroes or the classic era as an example when there's barely anyone except the playable characters.
>>570550854>>570550970>Blaze is anxious and insecure about her role>Silver and Blaze reunite, are in-sync, and have magical moment with blue skies (literally just a tanabata analog)>Blaze is no longer anxious and insecureit's so fucking bad
SA2 feels like a Tony Hawk game that turns into a DBZ game towards the end
This annual is so fucked up. It's the main justification of why Blaze is currently on endless vacation in Sonic's world. A lot of bullshit to justify having her there, getting her away from her world and following Silver around.>Conveniently kills all her villains unprompted>Conveniently she just goes to and from Sonic's dimension>Leaves Marine behind even though she was the one who said WE need a vacationThe one annual that finally has her doing stuff with Marine and it's used as an excuse to leave her behind and then eventually have her joined up with Silver. There will be no peace with silvazefags trying to gaslight people into believing we can have both or that they should just focus on the 20 years of nonexistent lore those two have.
>>570551006A combo of factors that include:>People hating on Marine>Fans that only care about Blaze in Sonic’s world over her own >Nobody being interested in exploring their relationship without buffers (Sonic and Tails) and instead would rather they be immediate partners
where did the hate for silvaze began anyway? yes silver was controversial from his debut, yes 06 was hated back then, and yes sonazefags always existed, but i didn't really see comments about the ship or the duo until relatively recently. her fags attacked more amy if anything, when did it switch?
>>570551409Even on her own without Silver is just boring. I was disappointed by the ending of her meeting with Surge. I really wonder what’s the plan in the long run for her.
>>570550801Sex with all of them.
>>570551071So for you the ideal Sonic world is >human npcs>towns and cities>aliens and sci fi stuff>cultural/mythic stuff>minimal religious/royal fantasy tones >more ancient lost tribe fantasy tones >government stuff>The classic sonic world with loops and crazy stuff still available but away from the citiesThats the commonality I find in that list. This good?
>>570551409This annual issue is actually one half of Silvaze slop too because there's a parallel story about Silver also wanting to go on vacation lmaoThat's their connection, there's no actual lore. The mirror/ parallelism is the point. It totally buried both of them because its too powerful.
>>570551601I guess. It's more of a vibe thing. Like Chaos/ Tikal and Iblis/ Elise aren't all that different. They even have similar vibes. But the overall vibe doesn't feel the same.
i don't think the problem with 06 is its final fantasy tones it's more that the opening of the game does not feel like the rest of it. The opening literally feels like Final Fantasy 13 while the rest of the game is mundane and relaxed
>>570551427>People hating on MarineHate was overblown for all characters back then, these days people want characters to come back>Fans that only care about Blaze in Sonic’s world over her ownFair point, but I think it's shitty that people have this take as it defeats the point of Blaze being who she is.>Nobody being interested in exploring their relationship without buffers and instead would rather they be immediate partnersI'd be interested in exploring that if given the chance. But as of now, none of that has any chance while Blaze is joined to the hip with Silver. I want to see Blaze and Marine get to know each other better and I think that would go without saying if they were given a full fleshed story adventure together, but all we do get right now are half pint regurgitations of lore established in SRA because IDW can't do shit and Marine isn't showing up in anything else worth a damn.>>570551575>I was disappointed by the ending of her meeting with Surge.Like all things, it has potential, but I doubt there's any real plans unless they try to do something with the fanbase making a point about Kit and Marine. I found the scene with Blaze and Kit more interesting than her with Surge.
>>570551885it probably helps that Tikal is mostly a ghost in Adventure and not a main character
>>570551741 (Me)I actually think Silver and Blaze taken on their own is kind of magnum opus for Sonic Team. Like it's got everything they love in it and has elements of almost every other duo. It just totally fails because of who the characters actually are.>>570551574They've just been getting content together and solo now. It really started cause of that really shit IDW issue. Also IDW characterization issues caused the fandom to reevaluate every character. Silver hardest hit.
>>57055199806 did a shit job at selling its aesthetic outside of vague romanticism. Game has negative aura.
>>570552234>They've just been getting content together>and solo nowI'm still looking for the solo Blaze content.
Hot take: Sonic should be in the "Cops" group, not the "Chaos" one
>>570552234i actually think silver and blaze dynamic can work if they write in what they are in more casual situations like sonic x material, i am assuming her fans want more gap moe stuff she usually gets from cream and amy from silver. they also have some esoteric ideas for them like tanabata, takarazuka role reversal stuff that they think the western audience can understand for whatever reason. they should empathically explain what they had in mind even if it won't really make people love the dynamic.silver i think is more popular after the idw stuff for better or worse though being noticed more also causes more uproar i think. that being said idw seems unfair to use as a judge for anything considering sonic team doesn't really cae for how tertiary charas are written and for a lot of the tanabata sperging done here, neither ian or evan would know what tanabata is, if we re being real.
Has GUN recovered from Forces yet?
I am gay
>>570548491The one he uses to pump me full of alien spermatophores.
>>570552325heroes ''no way out of marriage scene'' but its sonic shadow blaze and amy silver rouge.
>>570552705uhhhh nounless there's some throwaway line in Crossworlds that brings it up
IDW can you hurry up and have her change her mind now
>>570518623Whiteboard rink please
>>570552705If we count Chaotix Case Files, they're around again.>>570553000Metal Harbor has GUN logos
>>570545940maekawa never said they wanted a retcon, he just said it was connected.
>>570548805This is what I’m bracing for just in case
>>570549104I'm not really a Silvazefag. Silvazefags don't usually get notorious Silvazefag artists to draw Sonaze gift art for them. Back in the day I was the biggest hater of Silvaze in these threads, because I just didn't want to accept the Silver thing. I preferred her dynamic with Sonic. These days I think you're just locked into something Sonic Team decided on ages ago. Yeah it sucks and doesn't make much sense, but Silver and Blaze as a pairing has a pretty big fanbase (especially in Japan) who are happy with whatever Tanabata crumbs they get. From a brand perspective it makes zero sense to throw all those fans away. Instead of pushing Sonic Team to drop something they clearly enjoy, why not suggest ways to expand the Sol Dimension and Blaze's lore without permanently cutting her off from Silver? You'd probably dislike Silver less if you internalized his Japanese personality and voice too, Eng doesn't do him justice. Personally I pity him. Even if I originally despised the character, he didn't deserve whatever the hell Evan and this fanbase did to him.
>>570552674Eh Blaze loses her edge and focusing on their relationship itself is always narratively a sideshow for Blaze like >>570549563 says
who wants to talk about anything else that is not shipping?
>>570553408>expand the Sol Dimension and Blaze's lore without permanently cutting her off from SilverBut it's always going to be a sideshow and Silver always monopolizes her screen time for shit that really has nothing to do with her.It sucks.
>>570552234Idw sissyvery whatever happened there?
>>570552063People, Blazefags, used to specifically rag on Marine. Hell, we’ve even got Flynn who admitted he used to hate her.
Finally this is a thing.https://gamebanana.com/wips/101355
Our worst fear is that Movie Amy will be turned into a Movie Princess Peach-style girlboss and that Sonic is going to be this pathetic weakling and dork who simps for her and needs her to tard wrangle him. I’m already anticipating people on Twitter to defend this because “it gives their wewationship whimsy UWU” and because “it’s just a kids’ movie”
>>570553420blaze lost her edge long ago honestly, you need characters like amy or marine to push her buttons but reasonably, that can't be the whole point of her character or dynamics. that being said i think it can be done with silver toonarratively they probably had things in vault we arent allowed to see. they have reasons for why her 06 appearence makes sense in internal documentation.
>>570553408>but Silver and Blaze as a pairing has a pretty big fanbase (especially in Japan)I stopped reading here.Japanese sonic fans as a whole are already very few and far between. Silver and Blaze having a "pretty big fanbase in Japan" is pretty much nothing in the grand scheme of things. Not enough to justify rolling over Blaze's character established in two games for something barely even half established in a broken game. I don't care how many years it's been because in those years, they've done nothing notable with those characters and I don't care for expansion on it at this point because where else does it go except retreading 06. >You'd probably dislike Silver lessI don't hate Silver. I hate Silvaze, but I do not hate him. I want Silver to get a chance at having what Blaze got with Sonic Rush/Adventure. A game set in his timeline and he also gets his own cast. Ultimately, that would give both characters a reason to be off on their own thing because right now, all their relationship does is pull them away from their core concepts for fluff and pseudo deep poetic relationship fodder that has no foundation.
>>570553502I like to think that there's an equivalent of roboticization in 90s american sonic.They had the roboticizer that turns living things to robots.The back story in SatAM and Archie had people mutate into animal hybrids due to radiation and stuff. and Archie had it established that animal mobian DNA is mostly human.Now, what if there are leftover radiation somewhere that when a human / overlander gets exposed to, gets mutates into an animal person. like becomes a mobian.There's the hazard of being turned into a machine, and then there's the hazard of being turned into a cute cat.
>>570553579>we’ve even got Flynn who admitted he used to hate her.Flynn is not a blazefag, he's a sonazefag. Silvazefags and Sonazefags are not characterfags. Flynn wanted to retconned Blaze's dimension into a planet in Sonic's world, got rid of her enemies and hates the cast from her world because he wants her being apart of Sonic's shitty cheerleader group instead of her being her own character.
>>570553872Sonic is Blaze's core concept.Blaze is Silver's core concept.
>>570548307Kirk Thornton is like 70 years old. They need to replace him already
>>570553556>Blaze! I'm gay and retarded *shits pants*This is true for both Silvers. IDW Silver was just gayer about it
>>570554008sonazefags made a pretty big fanbase of her though due to rush ending being interpreted as romantic, you might say that it wasn't that and fans misinterpreted it and while it likely was the case, that still didn't stop from people mostly being invested on her due to a ship. i am not saying real blazefags that dont focus on shipping her with anyone dont exist but you have to understand that fanbase thinks she is as much of a shipping character as silver or even amy.
>>570553835It IS just a kid's movie.
>>570554128not really, she gives him some advice but is not really relvant to his actions otherwise.
>>570554183That doesn’t justify turning movie Amy into a girlboss
>>570554298It's for modern audience
Blaze is a concept
>>570554015>Sonic is Blaze's core concept.He is not, unless you mean parallels of the Sol Dimension and his world, but phrasing it like that, then Tails is Marine's core concept and I know you don't mean it like that.Sonic's role in Sonic Rush was him being the fairy that helps the new friend like he does in most 2000s games, he doesn't play that role in Sonic Rush Adventure. Blaze is largely independent of Sonic in that game while Marine is the one getting the focus of needing guidance here. >Blaze is Silver's core concept.She is not, she is not from his timeline. Everything in 06 that happens with him and Blaze, doesn't need it to be Blaze specifically. Silver's core concept is being a time traveling psychokinetic hedgehog from 200 years in the future of Sonic's world.Blaze's core concept is being a princess from another dimension who protects the sol emeralds and has pyrokinesis.>>570554161>you have to understand that fanbase thinks she is as much of a shipping characterI do understand that and that's exactly why all of it needs to be tossed. Re-establish her character so she can exist beyond that.
>>570554408Blaze is real and I gave her belly rubs.
>>570554374Not a justification either. Tyson Hesse hated Boom Amy and he’s a producer on Movie 4 so he better do everything he can to prevent Movie Amy from being a carbon copy of Boom Amy
>>570554128Why do people always lie and play dumb when it comes to Silver the Hedgehog? We all know IDW always have problems with characterization but why act like Silver was always been this "wooowwiee.. aww geez Rick.. they cut off my balls again.. "
The only piece of official merchandise that pairs the three of them together and it's a hoodie
>>570554729Team Dimensions is a 20 year long train wreck lmfaonobody outside of the inner fandom will accept this
>>570554725some people still see him as a wishy-washy naive character because not killing an innocent guy is bad but not having the guts to say no while doing what your friend told you which is to kill the innocent guy is worse than hitler
Blaze fans need to let go of this idea that Blaze can be separate from Silver or the Sol Dimension being explored. They won't do it. Sonic Rush isn't important enough and Sonaze is completely debunked
>>570554725Because Blaze said he is naive in both versions, he stops his quest for Amy and gets all flustered when she hugs him and he is dumbfounded about the beauty of Sonic's world. So besides laughing at Sonic for being weak, he wasn't the type of character Aurafags think he is at all
>>570555059>Sonaze out of nowhereYou don't understand the character. She's linked to Sonic. Her entire character concept revolves around him.
>>570555059>or the Sol Dimension being explored. They won't do it.They already did it once, they can do it again. We have a game that showed off multiple locations from her dimension and gave us characters from her world. It's not some hard thing they have to come up with from scratch. >Sonaze is completely debunkedGood thing sonaze isn't an important part of her character unlike her dimension, her royal duties, her emeralds, etc. Silver isn't important to any of this either so she can be separated from him too and she should.
>>570555165Everyone is linked to Sonic in some way, but Blaze is now given a dynamic focused on Silver. Explore that and give it a chance instead of reheating Rush's completed story line.
>>570554729it's official?it looks like some bootleg from bangladesh
>>570554725Idk post more hedgehog boys though.
>>570555059Sonic Rush is her backstory and they use it as the basis for her character constantly. You're not a reincarnation theorist retard are you?
>>570555258Silver is clearly an important part of Blaze at this point since he is in most of her appearances this decade. You can't just ignore idw
>>570555059>>sonaze debunkedi mean the fact she exists as a girl meaning she has to kiss a dude is part of this franchise's problem. i actually don't even dislike silvaze but i think it is fundamentally an issue that the franchise only makes main female characters important if they have a boyfriend is disappointing.like, sonaze having to be debunked at all is a problem in itself.
>>570555285>give it s chanceIt's been 20 years.Taking her away from the Sol Emeralds is retarded.You're full of shit.
>>570555126silver always had some quirks the male characters usually don't have in this franchise(i think being paired with blaze, alsoa girl somewhat masculine or otherwise atypical for the franchises characters, was the point of this), but he was still capable, mission oriented and had a spine. the issue is eng media shows him as being dependant and wimpy.
>>570555360Her character does not change at all if you completely delete Silver.
Americans are asleep, post memes in other languages
>>570555487Knuxism.
>>570555454>dependant and wimpy.You will never guess what impression you get from him after playing the English version
>>570555285>reheating Rushbut in-sync tanabata fireworks for 20 years is fine though?
>>570555126>>570555454(me)you can have all of that while still having his edge and roughness. its not really either or
This is exactly why sonazefags piss me off as much as silvazefags, you all act like Sonic Rush Adventure doesn't exist. It's just Sonic Rush with you lot and it breaks your brains to conceive the idea of Blaze actually doing things without Sonic. Silvazefags think she's just 06, Sonazefags think she's just Sonic Rush. Neither are actual blazefags that care about the elements of her character without the hedgehogs. >>570555360>You can't just ignore idwYou're right, that's exactly why Silver doesn't need to be with Blaze then. He has the Diamond Cutters too right? Biggest guardian angel fan and whatnot. He has so much in this book without Blaze, lets thank IDW for giving him direction without Blaze on top of him already having a core concept of being a time traveling hedgehog that doesn't need her.Kek
I hate how Blazefags keep talking about Silver like he's an Archie character created to make Blaze act wrong when he is canon and made by Sonic Team. They understand Blaze more than you. You can't just make up rules to say they are wrong.
brain damage
Even Team Dimensions fans only yap about potential. They're just Silvaze fans. It's just shipping. Sonic Team only pairs them together for 06 (tanabata). They ruined Blaze. It's shit. I have nothing else to say. I'd like to stop talking about it desu
>>570555615i mean they are not completely wrong about aurafags erasing some parts of him that are baked into his character (being naive,having some ineptness in expression like the scenes with amy or dare i even say somewhat feminine-ish to contrast blaze being a masculine girl) but again he still had roughness,and a spine(at least in japanese version) of that game. people think in too black and white about this and yes idw is ooc even if aurafags are wrong.
>>570555650>They understand Blaze more than you.Nishiyama (Blaze's creator) didn't even know why she ended up in 06
>>570555650I think most of Sonic Team are hacks and plagiarists.
>>570555606This picture is offensive to me
>>570555643silver should be part of sonics concept.
>>570554729>silvaze family>shadamy>KnuxaveWoah.. Something new to discuss about
Silver the light Sonic who hangs out with Blaze the negative Sonic and neither actually do the things their character bio says
Sonaze retards forget that Sonic can't be tied down and that they can't just ignore Silver and Blaze's new dynamic after 06
>>570555906blaze is sonic + knuckles and silver is sonic + amy, they are amalgamations rather than just one thing i think
>>570555789honestly the tweet sounds more like a joke about a novel than him actually not knowing.
>>570555285>reheating Rush's completed story lineWho said anything about reheating Rush>>570555982Sonaze and Silvaze retards forget Blaze has character bio that has nothing to do with either of them and that she's not from their dimension and shouldn't revolve around them
I wonder if Shadow's doom wings scars are really permanent
Blaze is associated with Silver. For fucks sake. I understand if you hate Silver but it's too late to cry about it now it's like complaining that Maria is tied to Shadow.
Everyone who works on this franchise is a fucking hack.
>>570556076Silver has nothing to do with Blaze as a character.
Silver has nothing to doneither does Blazeslopnic team is obsessed woth tanabata
>>570556076>I understand if you hate SilverI don't hate Silver, I like these characters beyond shipping unlike most of you.>it's like complaining that Maria is tied to Shadow.Maria doesn't have 2 games as a playable independent character or lore harboring responsibilities and duties important to a specific world setting or a set of emeralds to protect. Never compare silvaze to shadria again, silvaze wish it had the development Maria and Shadow did because it's a poor mans version with far less justification written into the narrative.
>>570555819Sonic Team has to depend on the movies to carry the franchise snd give them ideas because Sonic Team can’t come up with good ones themselves
>>570556275>Never compare silvaze to shadria againThey have the same concept and concerns.
>>570556324I genuinely hope the franchise dies. Not even sure what can kill it. Sega would have to execute them specifically.
Someone here tried to say Silver and Blaze are Sonic Team's magnum opus, a culmination of everything they like and want, but that's not true. Shadow and Maria already are that, Silver and Blaze are a weak imitation. It's Sonic Team trying to reheat nachos that worked before and failing to make it work again because the foundation is so much sloppier
>>570556076It's a disingenuous topic because they always start with the premise that Blaze fall from grace started in 06 when her second game was already pushing the limits of why Blaze should appear in any game at all. I just let them be, I don't think I am ever going to convince any of these people why Silver isn't to blame
>>570556098This where Ash started to question his sexuality
Silvaze is just a slurry of all of Sonic Team's "best" ideas slopped onto characters whose direction can't actually support them.
>>570555650>>570555982>>570556076Just say you hate Blaze and the Rush games and wish the latter never existed instead of all this lip service.
>>570556275Okay, but Silver and Blaze are connected as official characters just like Shadow and Maria. It won't go away. You can just get used to it now.
silvaze is maekawa's fanfic
>>570556519Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure won't go away either.
>>570556478Anon, Sonic 06 is older than Rush Adventure.
>>570556478My argument from the start is not "Silver is to blame". The relationship is the problem, the character is fine. I do not hate Silver and I believe he deserves his own game that does what Sonic Rush Adventure did for Blaze. Something that explores his core concept, give him a cast in his timeline. Something that actually has relevance to his bio information. When these characters are together, they cannibalize each other >>570549563
Cool designs >>570556417I will take that as a compliment considering Shadow has retold his story with Maria 3 times in the games and got a movie while Silver and Blaze never got the chance to get anything meaningful after their debut besides cameos and some official art
I can never take Silvazefags seriously because their ship is all centered around the defense of Silver and always falls into bashing Blaze and her fans.
>>570556403The next game being bad and Movie 4 turning Amy into an insufferable girlboss will kill the franchise. The franchise is in a movie bubble and if that bubble pops, the games won’t be good enough on their own to retain fans’ interest
>>570540983>Look at some point you have to accept if you want characters to show up and for everything to be canon that certain storytelling elements will have to take a back seat. Like CrossWorlds is canon so idk how you want to reconcile that.Im the only real blazefan
>>570556403The movies are flat out the only thing giving Sonic a budget now and the franchise is still cheap as fuck. Sonic wikl never die, but might he put in a coma if the movies ever flop.
>>570556784>>570556784>>570556784
>>570555390>Taking her away from the Sol Emeralds is retarded.Nobody is interested in the Sol emeralds
>>570556478People loved Blaze as her own character until Silver showed up and made her into his arm-candy where the shippers in question don't actually like her and just use her as a self-insert to pretend to date Silver.
>>570541849Amy doesnt need to be in a conventional relationship with Sonic to "meet her potential".
Marine
>>570547658>hard-scifi edgeDude SA2 is science-fantasy at most. Shadow was made with magic rocks research and alien DNA.
>>570550202BASED BLAZECHAD
>>570555695Vector you can't say that
