VictorGOD Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/6672420817338381588>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>570454927
No molestation victims, porn addicts, and rape victims past this point
Who is the worst character in the game right now and why is it Drifter?
>no hamburger themed jester trickster hero
But it IS time for cement addicted goyles
>7 win streak>game force 50's meholy fuck im mad like seriously. It's not my fucking skill because I wouldnt have had a 7 win streak but I cant do anything when my team is dogshit and just throws for no reason and for some reason despite being ascendant and being on a streak the game decides to derank me on 1 (ONE) loss where my k/d was even positive...
>OOOOOHHHHH IM GOING TO INNNNTTTTT>AAAAAHHHHHH THE VOICES ARE TELLING ME TO DIE 3 TIMES IMMEDIATELY THEN DISCONNECT
>EOMM and forced 50 isn't rea-
>>570529462>anon goes 7-1>I GOT FORCE 50'dYou're not only dumb but you're also stupid
>>570529608combackcable
Sex with Venator
>>570529567BILLYGAWDShardest hero to pilot
Wait do gun items effect mcginnis's turrents?
>>570529608You can get stomped this hard and the game will still go on for 35 minutes
>>570529792Kill yourself worthless faggot
Silver's in heat, dripping wet, plump, delicious cookie......................
soggy even
Can we just give russians there own server like dota?
>>570529940>but you see it's actually really really bad to put in a surrender and how it's totally impossible and it's never been done before and other forms of cope
i love victor
>>570529696explain why the game just randomly gives you dogshit teams that literally can't play the game then anon
>>570529792Magnet for retarded players that go and die solo at the end of the game and throwing the match every single fucking time
>>570530124Yoshi did a long time ago and they fucking lost it on the forums
>>570530123it'll be extra soggy after I spread some glaze with my """glaze spreading tool""" all over it, before eating it of course
>>570530324>and they fucking lost it on the forumsWhy?
my item ideas:>6.4k nullifier>6.4k green item that gives you true vision/esp for 30m radius>6.4k spirit item that disarms for 2 seconds after spirit damage threshold
>>570530427Russians don't want to play with other Russians either
>>570530418
>>570530157Because every single time you hit Play, you are getting matched with 11 other people from all around the world who have drastically different skill levels despite what your rank says, have drastically different levels of attention span during that particular game, and drastically different mental states as soon as lane phase started.For those first 7 games, either you received players with high skill, good mental state, good attention span, or all three. Or, the enemy team received the opposite. Or, though highly unlikely, both teams were well balanced and you just happened to win 7 times in a row.The game you lost, assuming you played perfectly and made no mistakes and carry every game like you claim (unlikely), it just means you got the bad team.I know that's a really hard concept to understand and that the world isn't out to get you in particular, but for my sake, please try.
Is leech on wraith secretly OP
>>570530124I'm Russian and out of 650 games I haven't played a single time with English speaking players. We have our own servers.
>>570530808Give me your best pierogi recipe
>>570530746nah spirit m1ggers buy spiritual overflow now
>>570530890>pierogiThat's PolishWe call them Vareniki
>play billy>take it easy in lane as he's trash early>my lane partner freaks out because I'm "playing safe"???
Actually leech on infernus is secretly OP
>>570530969I know you eat them.I'm craving pierogi damn you
>>570531058He is to used to Billy players suiciding 3 times within 5 minutes so you threw his rhythm off.
>>570531198He also got mad when I said that billy is shit early, as if that's not something everyone with more than 10 games knows
>>570529608>>570530128makes sense that EOMM schizo is also a lolbabb begging for /ff
>>570531058>take first guardian>start roaming to help out other lanes>lane partner stays in lane then complains that I left despite me pinging im going to another laneamazing.
Drifter's gun feels atrocious in lane, so I feel the best thing to do is to hit 4.8k spirit so you can get good rend and mark damage, then 4.8k vitality, THEN I start buying gun itemsI'm not sure if stalker the item is even worth it, feels pretty poopoo
>>570531058if your lane partner is fighting you should be fighting with them. at the very least you should be hard shoving the troopers while they fight.
>>570529813they deal spirit, but if you mean shit like heroic aura, i think so
>>570530679stop being logical, retard, the elo made his team mates be bad in that particular game
>>570531654Heroic aura not only effects friendly NPCs but it's actually triple the effect of the bonus given to players
i love when vindictas ulti either one shots after half HP, or leaves them with 1 HP letting them escape
leet krew.
I'm transgender and a Silver onetrick, if it matters.
>pick ivy>enemy team all think i'm a weak support that does no damage>shred them with my abilities that scale out the ass with spirit and my gun that has mercurial magnum on itdid people forget that ivy does a lot of damage or?...
why does mirage ult not have a CD if someone interrupts him
>>570533380>Play OP character>Win engagements for free because they're forced to take them>"UHHHH GUYS DID SOMEONE FORGET I PLAY THE WHOLESOME CHUNGUS? XD"Die
>>570532830>silvertrannies still upplaying silver
Deadlock if it was a good game
>>570531543Lane is probably the only time his gun feels good so I don’t know what you’re on about. It’s easy to aim and hits pretty hard
Is deadlock esports the next big thing?
Shrink Ray is like the Golden Snitch in Street Brawl. The enemy can suck ass, but if they get that item they just win.
>>570533445what the hell, man
is there a way to set up the lane to auto push like in lol?
>ult 4 people as billy with maxed ult>get 0 seconds of unstoppableI love how this hero has like 10 different bugs that nerf him
>>570533913the teamfights are 10 different colored circles bro
>>570532830can you please tell me how the fuck i stop dying to silver whenever she ults, i know run away, disarm, etc. but it feels like, as a fat slow chungus abrams, im just fucked in the lane when she gets her ult
>>570530969I don't care what you call pierogies, give us your best recipe
Wholesome GT deserves to do 2000 damage in 2 seconds.
why do people call shiv a high skill character>giant knife hitbox>dash through enemies when they're close>turn screen fast and shoot for a tiny speed boostthats it
Speaking of esports I noticed alot of the players use calico, what am I missing about her? I thought she was D tier.
>>570531058I do this as abrams, the rem in my lane cries like a nigger and yells no no you have infinite health and then we proceed to die when we fight because neither of us deal any damage against moI hate laning with supports so goddamn much
why are the amerigolems begging yoshi to put something in deadlock due to their niggerball championship
>>570535079i think you might just be shit
>>570533821I would install this mod if it made my screen shake when they moved.
>>570535138Abrams can't outdamage mo, it's just a stalemate. And if the Rem is close the Mo gets extra healing. Abrams can only play defensively and get a guardian charge or he gets outdpsed by almost every character.
RemGAWDS wont be satisfied without a baby sized pierogi down their gab
>>570535103We are getting DeadBall: Cursed Cup soon
>>570535616wow ai is getting good
>6 miles away from Holliday and Gheist>Somehow get stunned from that distanceHeres the damage log, I have NO FUCKING IDEA what hit me from that far away but that was kinda bullshit.
>>570535881you got hyperlined cutie, stop trying to zipline in front of people
Infernus is way too honest for this meta.
>>570535881I recommend binding jump and zipline to different keybinds.
>>570535965>>570536026so the game registered me as trying to get on the zipline and in the moment I jumped I took damage and got stunned off that?I didnt even know that was a thing...
I pooped myself.infernus main btw
>>570535881theyre hacking
REMINDER: all Haze players are boosted
>>570536026nta but what keybind do you guys use for zip? i feel pretty comfortable just having zip and jump together
>>570536245haze is the weakest hero in the game lol she was strong for just one patch months ago wtf are you talking about? seekers are so delusional
>>570536312t
>>570536168without seeing the replay yeah that's most likely what happened. if the zipline was on screen when you jumped then it probably tried to latch you onto it and someone just shot you for a free kill. it's not exactly common but you should rebind zipline for that exact reason.
>>570536168Yes>>570536312I use mouse4 (the forwards arrow.
>>570536316Curse Haze has zero counterplay.
>>570536510>walks away
>>570536510unstoppable? counterspell? basic movement and positioning? git gud. she's so weak its a joke.
>>570536510>IndomitableAlso yeah that's the point
>>570536510plated armor
>>570536510>Don't walk up when you know haze is in the area, or if she hasn't shown in a while>Win because she's dogshit useless if she doesn't get picksIt's crazy how much easier the game is when you don't get bored and push into the enemy for no reason
>>570536510Rapid Rounds
>>570536650>she's so weak its a joke.The 20 kill Hazes I get in my games beg to differ >>570536825My team can't stop feeding Haze, they refuse to buy any bullet counters even though I tell them to
>>570536964so buy curse or rescue beam? you're complaining your team won't buy counters yet refusing the obvious solution you could do yourself
>>570537184but i need to buy echo shard for sticky bomb
>>570536510>>570536964so does she have zero counterplay or is it just a team problem you fucking retard
if you play m1 carries you're a mentally ill retard
>>570538274retarded for playing the weakest yet highest skill heroes in the game, yes. why play that when you can play bebop or pocket and do more damage by spamming buttons?
So that new Urn, huh?
>>570538387>the weakest yet highest skill heroes in the gameah yes, the skill of holding m1 lmao
>>570538552yes? you actually have to aim
Is there a reason Ivy is the only char with a constant +4 sec on CD from damage?
None of you guys could get a single kill without using an ability to spawn a 10 meter nuke circle.
>>570538712movement and aiming skills takes more effort and is more impressive than making sure your fucking crosshair is only these massive ass hero models, bro you aren't playing cs2, you aren't counter strafing and one shotting heads, you're shooting a big blue guy that takes up half your screen
Keep nerfing her, Yoshi. Gravesfags farm shitlow all the same.
>>570530808why do I play with russians then so often
>>570538871the hero just needs to be deleted from the game, the archetype has no place in deadlock
>>570539002She's a knowledge check and a stat check with no room for error on the pilot's part. People just need to get better. Over time she'd get worse and worse as the median player improves their positioning and movement, like Pyro in TF2.
>>570538712most of the carries in this game use automatics lmao aiming is NOT hard in this
>>570539558nooooooooo omg its so hard to shoot any of the 5 people that are on my screen that are super fucking big monsters nooooooooooooooooooo im trying to hard im so skilled with my no-recoil shooting
this game is so ass id rather do extra work at my job than play
>>570539002>[summoner] has no place in [a moba]hero shooter tourists get the ROPE
>Points and clicks to win lane>Points and clicks to win mid game>Points and clicks to win late gameYup. Sure is tough being a m1gger.
>Press buttons to win lane>Press buttons mid game>Press buttons late gameYup. Sure is tough being a spiritfag.
>>570538737She's not.
>counter buy this loser
FUCKING DELETE GUNSLOP FROM THE GAME ALREADY
>>570540516But this is a spirit meta? Spells have literally 0 counters.
>>570540385>Holds Q to win lane>Holds Q mid game>Holds Q late gameYup. Sure is tough being a meleefag.
Graves buffs incoming.
>>570540106in an isometric moba you can choose to right click the heroin this game you can't shoot past the 10 skulls floating skulls and 3 exploding cunts in a mess of a fight
>play lash>vs infernus in lane>hes not that good>15 mins into the game>all of sudden hes hitting me pinpoint flying through the sky with every bullet every time im on screen>check after game>VAC ban on record>nigger probably turned his aimbot on after he lost lanethank yoshit. kill yourself
>>570540612And shortly thereafter Graves nerfs will be incoming until she's back at 44%.
>>570540603>spells have literally 0 counters>when there is an item named counterspellinb4 thatsthejoke
how do i counter Celeste's 4?
>>570540717Don't worry, next time she'll finally hit the sweet spot (the answer is to roll back the damage buffs on her skulls and take echo shard out of the game).
>>570540634>potato tier hero getting mvponly in seeker
>>570540796Stamina Mastery
>>570540718lmao cook his ass>>570540796literally just run away bro
seriously how do you counter drifter and rem ults?
>>570540936With Counterspell,
>>570540818Oracle but whateverI'm on Ivy lose streak with retards in every game
>>570540496>Cheat mods
>>570540496yes? indom literally completely saves you
Haze and Wraith and Calico are wokeslop and should be removed from the game
>>570541224They should be given new models with huge futa cocks
UhhhhhDeadtards?
>>570540496deserved for being a cheater
Flopping Silver Deadcock
>>570541323sex with moro from princess mononoke
>>570541483this made me chuckle thanks anon
>>570540796walk away from your teammates instead of towards them
Who, if anybody, is this good on?
>>570541767billy
>>570541483Where are her buffs...
>>570540404like?
>>570541767Billy, Drifter, Silver, I've seen even Calico building it
yakub created whiteswhites created tricknologytricknology created deadlockdo you understand now?
>>570534373nope because guardians/walkers do AOE damage in this game making it impossible to stall/hold waves like league
What were the developers thinking when they gave Abrams his big fat tome?
>>570540496>No indom, no unstop
>>570542053We ne chuddy as Abrams, they look the same
>>570541323Princes Onmycock-ooh
https://youtube.com/shorts/SgDHlKKXFAgREMINDER: /ourgirl/ Eskay got to Eternus and she builds L-R, counter items are pointless and are marked as "optional" in builds for a reason.
>>570542485>girl
>>570542485>url has fag in itits like youtube knows
>>570542485>Eskay>Tranny that hangs with the other tranny daphne while leeching off vtubersYIKES
>>570542485He played Overwatch for a decade before this
>>570542485its a voice changer, right?but also, shes eternus because she plays the OP characters
>>570542636>shes eternus becausestacked when ranks first came out, calls the stacks in when she's close to losing Eternus, and is able to float in that range in the same way shitters do in Immortal+ on Dota2 - with no rank resetting and 50+
>>570529792Calm down Mina!
>>570542556>>url has fag in itholy shit hahaha
>>570542843why does Mina want to fuck everyoneI wish Graves was the slut...
>>570540936>drifter ult- walking away- anything that counters m1 (metal skin, return fire, disarming hex, etc.)- walking away- buddying up- did I mention walking away?>rem ult- walking away- unstoppable- counterspell- just shooting him, especially if he went pillow or gun build
>>570540612>nerfed into virtual uselessness in eternus>still 53% wr in pisslowhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i'm noticing, i think this character is stronger the worse at the game you are but i'm still developing that theory
>>570542485y are yts like this lmfao
>>570542485Autism is comorbid with both transsexuality and game hyperfixation
>>570542485Based eskay spreading misinfo to make my games easier
>>570542753you just know she thinks shes good, despite bein carried every game
>>570540612>Does no damage and feeds free items to her opponentsWho could have foreseen her being bad?
>>570543479Considering 95% of the playerbase is in elos where her winrate is still comfortably above 50, about that many people.
For the last three weeks every single game has been carry or lose for me, I literally haven't been carried once.
>>570543750Umm and that's good matchmaking and if you're losing you deserve it
I know you'll help me :3
>>570543750isnt that fun, though? if youre carrying you're playing well, and that is enjoyable?
>>570542485>EskayThe only eskay that mattershttps://www.twitch.tv/esskayuwu
>>570540936gulps he made it...d-dark?! AIEEE what the fuck are you going to do anon?! ITS DARK AIEEEEEEE
the balance in this game is a joke. the dev team is not trying at all and I don't mean that in a hyperbolic way, I genuinely believe they don't care. they just throw some shit together based on popular sentiment. they'll do all this graves shit because she's the fotm hero meanwhile there is a slew of overtuned free heroes running amok for 2 years and whenever they show up in the patch notes its some inane change like "increased height by 2cm and removed 0.00000001 gun scaling on thursdays" fundamentally changing nothing. they literally care more about streamers opinions more than actually balancing anything
What a nice night of streetbrawl
>>570544239>worries about balance for a game thats currently in alpha
>>570544239>they literally care more about streamers opinions more than actually balancing anythingIf that was true Graves wouldn't be raped 3 patches in a row, most streamers are good enough at the game to know she's a pubstomper. They're doing something worse, they're balancing around reddit and discord.
>>570544370uhh retard thats the point of an alpha is to worry about the balance
>>570544431to develop the game, retard, balance can always be done later
>>570544515and thats why they've been releasing balance changes nearly twice a month for two years? just for fun I guess. for shits and giggles
i wish i could have sex with graves
>>570543043Graves is goth, she's slutty in a "you have to chase me" sort of way.
Eskay slander will not be allowed in this general. She is /ourgirl/.
>>570544673oh ill fuckin chase her
>>570544796Careful Drifter!
>>570544836DICKIN EM
>>570544761wow shes beautiful
ONCE AGAIN FOR THE MILLIONTH TIMESEVEN IS THE HIGHEST WINRATE HEROHE HAS SPENT LIKE 90% OF THE EXISTENCE OF DEADLOCK AT THE VERY TOP WINRATE
>>570544761THATS ESKAY? im subscribing rn
>>570544761Manass
>>570545045Affirmative, just messaged Yoshi on discord to drop another Graves nerf, thank me later
>>570545045deadlock started when silver was added
>>570545045okay but like what the fuck do you want me to do about it
Seven deserves nerfs
>>570545045Remember when he could only move on his ult when he maxxed it? Then Yoshi saw that he wasn't winning and being bullshit hard enough so he decided to give that to his base kit hahaha
every other hero is more annoying than sevenname one hero less annoying i dare you
>>570545210Paige
who else always spends their queue time up here
>>570545086Seven is the strongest hero again? We better nerf bebops bomb damage by 5 lol
>>570544761>She
how does this image make you feel?
>>570545276hello fellow retard I am also missing a snowglobe like you and want to an hero.thank you.I usually just watch the first game on the list because my queues are 4+ minutes.
>>570545404Good. I'd rather lose with a bomb bebop that win with another boring M1gger
August update better remove gunslop
I don't get it. why is this guy so high win rate?he doesn't do anything every time I see him.
>be "le vengeful ghost" vindicta>first thing she does is buy mascara and cry so she looks fashionablewomen amirite
Here's how the dev's balance>fotm hero gets super duper strong in the current patch>nerf them into the dirt>but the heroes that have been problems for literal years get 0.000001 damage and then morons go "NOOOOOOOO HAZE DOES 0.0000000000001 less damage now its OVER!" >people stop complaining because erm one nerf means the entire character is shit>the devs now dont look at them and just let them run rampant because "they already got nerfed chud"And thats how you get people like Wraith and Haze still walking around
I'm just going to stop trying to contest the urn if I see the enemy team is ahead. The comeback mechanic might as well not exist.
>>570545045He's just C tier though, unlike S+++ilver
>>570545583Stands on urn cap in a fart cloud every 6 mins and makes it almost impossible to lose. Pretty strong guy.
>>570545583don't you get it? he can't die
I knew the devs were retarded when one of the times they tried to nerf Seven by swapping his tesla rounds ability upgrades around they accidentally made his winrate go up even higher.
whats funny is that the balance was better in the past even if you had nonsense like insta kill bullet dance and ricochet lifesteal infernus you could see the devs were actually listening and taking notes on important stuff now the devs just listen to retarded redditors screeching about x hero until they get dumpstered
>>570546025The game felt like it was steadily reaching perfection until that early March patch that just sharted on everything permanently.
>>570545756sounds like it requires your team to contest the urn.
so this is another female(male) right? it doesn't use a cam and has an emotionless voice in game comms.
>>570545045Good. He deserves it.
>>570545721This but unironically, Silver mains are just that dogshit they're dragging down the stats
>>570546025Happens in all games. The devs have no clue what they do so they do everything crybabys say on discord or something and good games keep dying.In vampire the masquerade bloodhunt melee was strong, but not worse than range like if anyone could actually youd never get in range for it to matter and both players had melee weapons acessable at the same time.And there was a mechanic that the more kills u get the more powerupgrade you could get.Roofcampers cried that they had no powerups and couldnt aim so they nerfed everything to death instead of telling them to get gud while ignoring the only actual problem (flood of hackers) so nobody played it anymore
>>570546412>furry>pink>le hyperfeminine iconography and name>plays silver and weebbait>goes out of its way to specify "girl"Oh yeah, it's trans and actively grooming children on roblox as we speak.
>>570546412>they play as a 3 stackLOL why is this shit allowed in high ranks
https://www.reddit.com/r/SilverMainsDeadlock/HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>>570546623I love silver. Whenever im up against her i'll wait till she uses ult and then rotate my disarm, mo-krill knockup and my curse and then ult so they can never play the game.What a useless hero
>>570546412>e6Tranny. Women can't play video games.
>>570546790She's a joke seriously I said this in the last thread but I faced a Silver that had to run away from four Rem Creeps because she legit could NOT kill them through suppressor + mystic slow lol
>>570546623>it's all shitters, downplayers and obvious AGPsBizarre. Is it just the same people posting here? Or is there some sort of magic that attracts the most utterly stereotypical troons to this character?
It's time to go to sleep, /dlg/. I've got my jammies, pillows, and warm beef broth.
>>570546996I think they should just remove her ult cooldown atleast.Its sometimes hard enough to even get it full without getting punished.No reason for it to have such a long cooldown
Just had a game where the Holliday bitched all game about how terrible the character is now while calling the Wraith a meta slave.
>>570542485Eskay is the ugliest I’ve ever seen an Asian person maybe ever. I actually can’t believe how fugly he really is.
If you cant get to high rank with honest heroes like me leave the general NOW
>>570547591They almost doubled it this patch, I don't think they share your opinion
>>570547694Had a game where a Drifter main complained about how bad his character was and called Rem an easy character
>>570548061Carry mentality. My character is harder because I'm the carry and you're not.
>>570547992>high rank>oracle
>>570546025Retarded silver main typed this post, kys
>>570547992>apollo>honest
>>570548034But what does the ult even do? I get it, its strong, but the requirement is huge and shes useless oterwise.
>>570547992oracle is below average lil gup
>>570548176Erm nyo
quite boredgame is very stagnanttired of gunsloptired of aoesloptired of metaslave compstired of retard teammatestired of unsatisfactory opponentstired of shitty matchmakingtired of shitty netcodetired of shitty balancingtired of no contentit's suffering when you like a game that has potential to be really good but it fvcking suuuuuuucks
eos in a few months
I like my pillow...
Silver upplayers are just pretending, right? There's no way they think Silver is anything but useless this patch, right? They couldn't possibly be that retarded.
In honor of silverfags death, i will now spamm holiday
holiday is even more cancer in lane than old mina now
here CUMS a barrel!
>>570548371Oracle 5 is top 10% trannyternus
why does the Source engine want to rape and kill you if you dare to hold W while airborne?
>>570548836i said average not median
>>570541767Pocket
>if you use rising ram on an enemy with magic carpet/celeste as billy they get knocked up higher than your bashdown can grabCan't even tell if this is another bug or just shit design holy fuck Billy is such a fucked up hero
>>570545583Urn fights are still the most important thing in the game and he's good for them, he's also extremely good at taking walkers and in most ranks people are terrified of ever walking up to one so Victor suiciding for a walker is the only time they'll ever be taken without the entire enemy team dead.
Shit man my discord account got hacked and the hackers sent some stupid crypto scam shit to every server i was in, so i got permabanned from the official discord. Don't even know if there's anything i can do about it now that i got the account bakc
Are these bad?
>>570549734situationally goodnosituationally goodnoyesnonoyessituationally good
>>570549734Fury Trance is the only one that's kind of always shit.The rest are situational or fine.
>learning celeste's play patterns>finally making it all come together>land a bounce shot off a wall to kill a fleeing kelvin on his faggot ice pathI bet unicorns feel like this all the time
>>570548561Rem when laying on my lap
>>570549734Your team is throwing Urnlock if nobody has Alch fire
Man when are they going to dumpster wraith seriously?
what is it about tankbuster that makes bad players attached by it? are they hypnotized by the current hp % damage?
>>570549221They're the same thing you tongue my anus
>>570550563Pure damage is good.
>>570549679What pirated game were you downloading?
>>570550819the fitgirl forza release dude, her stuff is usually legit but it fucked me up
>>570550783~200 pure damage ONLY against a full hp enemy once every 14 seconds is not good
haze are the most subhuman fucking players in this game boosted pieces of shit
>>570550903except haze is a thrwo pick
Nice draft im glad they get a million carries this game is moronic
>>570551023Oh and of course since its a Pocket he had to feed 15 times :D
damn celeste is fun, doesnt hurt that shes fucking hot too!
I think this game feels especially bad to play in a stack where one or two of you aren't that good, because there's just so much to do. I mean you play CS with your friends and even if a couple of them are shit its still mostly fine, you can make up for it. But queueing in with a group of friends on Deadlock where you know two of them are likely to lose lane, lose map pressure, fall behind in gold, not do shit in teamfights just makes the game so unwinnable to the point wherei don't even feel like playing with them anymore
>>570545276I spend my queue time shooting the ball and watching the cat chase it
yo when are they buffing silver?? this hero is ass lmao it always loses
>>570551267good you should be punished for trying to smurf by queing with shitters
WARNING DONT LOOK AAAAHHHHHHH
I don't know what items do and I refuse to learn, I just buy whatever the recommended tab tells me to
Wait what Curse doesn't fucking work against unstoppable?
>>570551429It's called unstoppable
>>570550873I always hear of people getting fucked from that website."Usually legit" is how they get you.Do you by any chance have Metamask? Check if it has been drained if so.
>>570551429it works pre-emptivelyif enemy presses unstop you cant curseif enemy doesn't press unstop you can curse, and then they won't be able to press unstop
>>570551429>unstoppable>"AYO WTF WHY ISN'T HE STOPPING"Mobabrain
Mobafags be like: every character has a role, carries deal damage, frontliners jerk it, supports fondle the balls, blah blah and they're all important.But then also: what the fuck, the enemy team has more carries, we lost already.
>>570551512Nah don't dabble in crypto. Had to spend the entire day changing passwords, logging out of sessions, chaning 2fa and full formatting my pc for good measure though, fucking ass. And i got banned from the damn discord.
Tankbuster upplayers must be stoppedStart downplaying it NOW
>>570538883russian vpn users
I've just started doing builds that only shred resists for my teammates and it's honestly going pretty well
>just pick seven and farm bro I mean I am winning, but I think I'd rather just pick something else and lose at 30. This is fucking exhausting
>>570550884It really is though, that's 5% of their hp
I buy tankbuster because mystic shot can proc it. It's funny nuking 50% of someone's hp because I shot them once.
>>570551647That sucks man, you probably downloaded a fake release off a shitty public tracker and not her main site right? There are many people that do that she even warns you in her releases to block fake sites imitating hers
10 minutes on the clock!time for shiv to push the mid walker solo!
>>570552074great, they'll be dead after nearly 5 minutes then
>>570538883They probably live in the western part of Russia, very close to EU servers so it doesn't really matter. I'm from Eastern Siberia, any EU server would have like 120ms ping, maybe there is some cutoff that doesn't allow players to join the server.
>>570551960Spirit drifter is goated for this reason, you just buy spirit rend + snatch and repeatedly drain their stats. Are you buying spirit sap too? Focus lens as an upgrade is a great item too (you cant dispel the damage it does)>>570552147based space creator, team's fault for not following up>>570552198Listen man it's actually good. I thought the same as you that it's not worth 2400 but after building it on apollo I started doing way better. Punching through resists changes a lot and it can mean the difference between them surviving a stun or dying instantly before healing.
>>570552256spirit drifter is perhaps the biggest throw build because you can just dispel magic
game does feel more balanced now. except holliday that shit is op as fuck
>>570552138Man i'm 99% sure it was the real site. I have the plugin that redirects fake sites to hers that comes with all of her releases, and i've downloaded a ton of shit from her.
>>570546623>https://www.reddit.com/r/SilverMainsDeadlock/comments/1tym2h1/puppygirl_fearlessly_sinks_teeth_into_entire_team/jesus fucking christ>whiffed most of his abilities>couldn't even shoot at trooper ziplines>still 1v6d because silver is giga broken and most of his damage came from holding w + m1i fucking can't, man.
>>570552528his 2 is a 10 second cooldown it literally doesnt matter and if your team has other heroes that dont want to be dispelled it's huge.
>>570546623>Silver up-players are unironic redditors
wait i thought silver was bad...
>Silver WR in eternus has hit 47%
so no one cares that rem is just running around new york with no pants
>>570552891>Bottom two eternus heroes were gutted by both low elo and high elo players bitchingIts ironic.
>>570552893most animals don't wear clothes at all
marvel rivals unironically has heros that are harder to play than anything deadlock. 500 hours in both games btw
>>570553036um silver is still le S+++ tho
>>570553259not anymore lol walking jungle camp
They should revert the Silver nerfs. they were not necessary. Kneejerk nerfs to a hero that is easy to counter are never a good thing. Don't touch the stove.
>>570553229500 hours doesnt even get you good at the universal movement in deadlock lil gup
There's not a single character that makes the game less enjoyable than Haze.
>>570553389spiderman movement is 10x anything deadlock could ever dream of adding
>>570553484500 hours doesn't get you good at spiderman either back to the lab again nigga
when the victor/haze/dynamo boosted third worlder doesn't get their hero in a match
>>570553702I'm in this picture and I don't like it
>>570548561
>>570553702thats me and im hitting top 1000 eu on the leaderboards today by just holding w on victor. abrams is unironically my yellow prio
[character] is OPJust counterbuy[character] is OP
>>570554045in this meta rem would solo kill the drifter
did you know? apollo's flawless advance is a unique ability because it is one of the few abilities that isn't just an aoe circle of damage
>>570554312>This character is a throw pick>This character is a throw pick>In a sample size of ~200 people where every game is played the same way this character is slightly stronger>In an even smaller sample size separate from the other, this character is highly prioritized and performs, at best, indistinguishably from any other character
what am i supposed to do as rem when there are no sinners on the map and all my helpers are on troopers?
>shiv's dash is omnidirectional nowstealth buff actually. you don't have to jump to make omnidirectional
>>570555306look for plays with your ult. your ult gives your entire team ample time to collapse on a nigga
>>570552874She's bad alrightReal bad
>>570529608The best part about games like this is that it'll be you and one other guy who are like 1-1 while 4 retards run around giga feeding
>>570543053retard tranime pedo
>>570530427Russians understand that they as a nation behave like niggers. But they always think that they as an individual are the exception. They'll lock out everything but the western european servers to force themselves over here. They'll have no idea how to lane, they'll feed or sell you. They will jungle indefinitely or run it the fuck down in the enemy's jungle trying to gank solo. If they're losing they're spamming chat for hours in their cave drawing language even if no one else in the lobby understands them. They'll force shit fights. They'll farm camps instead of defending a walker while a double wave crashes in on it. They're just slow, dim witted people who basically only attain higher ranks by spamming tanks and relying on their team to bail them out of everything. Then there'll be like a 0.1% exception where the russian is actually a solid player and you'll have lefties telling you SEE SEE THEY'RE NOT ALL RETARDED YOU'RE BEING RACIST
>>570542753she didnt play until the last update retard
>>570554312
>>570534686Wholesome HONEST GT deserves to have an AOE curse every 10s that can disable ultimates and remove buffs
I just mute INSTANTLY the moment I see or hear any cyrillic with no hesitation its basically ingrained in me its funny that redditors are only just now realising how annoying they fucking are but "i-i can't say that its its le un heckin wholesome..."
>>570538737They lowered the cooldown and this made it justifiable because it was so low. Then they bumped the CD by like 20 seconds and now we're not far off the old cd. So now I have to wonder why the functionally worse ult (no bullet shred, no knock up) also just has such a punishing mechanic. It's okay when an apollo or shiv use their ults to pop up over a roof and fuck off but dare you use it for the same purpose...People will do anything but buy a knockdown.
>>570541169indom literally blocks 1 stun and then he gets echo shard stunned into a lasso how do you imagine that saving anyone
>>570540936you're supposed to just buy counterspell and parry it as it's about to land
>>570544370>Game is called Early Access Development Build>This retard still thinks we're in an alpha and not a closed betaAlpha is fundamental and basic. Like getting a concept and basic game loop out of the way. Do you really think the game will play much differently a year from now? This is a beta and yes you should be concerned about the balance of things at this stage.
>>570542010calico
>>570545661It literally feels like Wraith will shoot at me in lane at max range for 30 damage and I'll hear her get a card out of it and it always pisses me the fuck off.
>devs say please keep complaining>retards keep going "stop complaining its an alpha" no one should've complained from the get go so we could all be playing Neon Prime and it definitely would've had the same players as Deadlock stop complaining
>>570545679It can win you games but you still need your team to not be fucking retarded. People get auras under walker and still lose fights.
I used to queue Silver as 2nd prio so I can get my main, but I'm actually getting Silver more than my main now. Fuck. All the metaniggers really stopped playing Silver, huh?
>>570547992>oracle>high ranklol>>570551429it doesn't work against indomitable either cause it's technically a silence. counter spell on the projectile will also outright block it.
>>570551635It's because supports get to be good when they have all their utility up. And carries get to be good at all stages of the game. And losing lane is the quickest way to a snowball.
>>570554124I'm e3 and from what I see e4 is the top 1000 break in point. I'm kinda excited to see if I can pop in. Is it much of a grind from there?
when are they going to make it so stuns cancel some ults?>lady geist ults someone as I stun them as ivy>she gets up>sucks me instead because for some reason she didnt lose her ult>get killedsame thing with fucking dynamo what even constitutes whether an ult will be cancelled or not?
>>570556965I mean it's the same everywhere irl now too. People are starting to realise they're being invaded by hordes of retarded animals. All over my country the past few days there's footage of people beating nigs up. The slavs are next. Only the Polish are exempt.
>>570555392oh and apparently... you can no longer stop shiv's dash. it used to be if you got stunned at the start of the midway, he'll stop the dash. now, he'll get stunned but still do the full dash.
When is wraith getting nerfed this hero is fucking retardedShe shouldn't have this good of a early game when you factor in her late game damage.
>>570546412in high eternus NA theres a decent number of trannies, none of them are super high rank but they exist. tiff is purrfect, that one vtuber who uses an ai voice, etcwish these faggots would off themselves
>>570557708Yeah it is fucking disgusting when dynamo gets his ult back. Think it's the same with Bebop and McGinnis too. Like if you hit someone while the sounds are playing and all that they should 100% eat shit.
>>570557876>mashes throw card on you and even with 40% spirit resistance you take 1000 damage from homing missile cardsshes been op since the march patch but since she got nerfed a single time between now and then she wont get another nerf for 8.5 billion eons
Evens, I reinstall the gameOdds, I wait for the next major update
I give up on vortex web + arctic blast for Rem, no one can make use of the entire enemy team being slowed for 100% 8 seconds longIm sticking to divine barrier + healing nova to just save retards instead of enabling them
>>570557876>Play DOTA>Supports are at their peak in the early-mid game and are expected to baby sit their carry while they farm. They are still relevant in late game for CC and utility but their damage has tapered off a lot with some exceptions like Witch Doctor.>Carries are at their peak in the late game and can be bullied in lane. Depends upon their support to harass people and win trades. On midlane they depend upon roamers to get ahead.>Play Deadlock>Carries rape you on trades from the get go>They get to win lane>They also get to just farm way quicker than you>They also get to delete walkers solo in seconds at 10 minutes>Your only recourse to the unrelenting rape is to buy a curse by 20m>Carries kvetch about this
>>570558359Healing Nova I would argue is essential on urn fights to give your entire team more HP. Web is more great for setting up strong sleeps. I've never really been convinced cold front was good on Rem. Hex is always a good item when chasing someone down. Divine Barrier is basically essential on Rem because if the enemy team has a Pocket or Spirit Burn or whatever your entire purpose is eradicated and you lose out on tons of healing. I would definitely be buying guardian ward -> nova -> hex -> curse -> divine barrier -> web and then just hop onto your allies and give them free kills with hex curse. They'll love you for it.
>>570558389Yeah every single carry is a boosted subhumanWow dude you play the auto-win late game hero but you also have a GOOD early game as well? Lot of a skill mateYou can tell this game is nowhere near beta just off this alone.
>>570558685I've been called a noob for playing supports by a few carry players. Like they think I should pick up the afk farming role to prove I'm good at the game. They honest to god think that the role that involves constantly looking for opportunities to get your team ahead is somehow less demanding than shooting at inanimate objects for 25-30 minutes.
>>570558793Carrytrannies are like that in all mobas
>>570558938They have such insane egos for what amounts to a mascot role.
Silverwatch Silvers seen since patch: 3Silver losses seen since patch: 3Silver loss rate this patch: 100%Will continue to update as more Silvers are seen (and lose)
>>570558793Before the march patch I tested if carry was actually braindead by playing victor for 100ish games, I ended up with a 70% winrate off just afk farming and holding w with the aura.That was before they giga buffed his ult cd for no reason as wellCarry players think they deserve to live, I won't be satisfied until every single carry has a atrocious lane where you will be expected to go 0/5 at minimum FIX THIS SHIT YOSHI DEAR GOD
>>570557930>tiff is purrfectshe sure is, I wish I could have a trans gf too :3
My winrate is 48% and I blame matchmaking.
>>570559076The most glaring show of the carry vs support diff in lane is to watch a double support vs double carry lane. Like Ivy and Sinclair vs Wraith Infernus. It's hopeless.
>>570559287B-but forced 50...
>>570558793>>570558938I wonder do they realise that if everyone played carries then the limited resources on the map wouldn't be getting pooled to them and they wouldn't be a carry anymore...
>>570558259He's free...
Gunshit ruined deadlock
Spiritshit ruined deadlock
>>570559603We will be too, someday...
Vitalityshit ruined deadlock
Three lanes ruined Deadlock.
Silver ruined deadlock
>>570557695you can be e4 and not show up on the leadersboards because it doesnt have all e4 players. i went on a winning streak yesterday which is why im sure ill land on the top 1000 page in two hours from now when the page updates>grind from thereidk thus far the grind has been surprisingly fast but i guess that depends on the wr%. i have a consistent 60%+ wr which is why ive went from p4 to e4 in a month. im pretty sure ill hit a wall in e5 though considering the anecdotes ive heard about the gap between e4 and e6
I ruined deadlock
>>570559287youre the only common factor in your matches
>>570560668I think you'd break into E6. You can 3 stack still right? I'm sure that's common. I've actually tried to scour through the scrim discords to find people to stack with because I'm a dedicated support player trying to find a consistent M1. But they're all dead. I literally don't even know where to find people interested in stacking anymore. It was totally different in 2024 and early 2025. I've tried adding people for games but most seem flakey and unwilling to stack because it involves fucking with their picks. Particularly if they one trick.
My winrate is 48% and I blame the raging boner I get whenever Celeste is on screen.
shooting my gun as shiv is literally detrimental to his gameplay loop, took me 100 hours to realize
>>570560958are you indirectly trying to ask if i want to duo? im sry but i already have a duo ive been raping with and were both finnish so communication is easyif you werent asking for duo, are you na or eu? if eu adding people from your country you meet in game is pretty common and in my experience people are usually up for it. shame if it hasnt worked for you. are you staying active in voice chat when in game? i think that lowers the barrier to adding
Nobody bans this Graves here at my elo so it's constant chimps that refuse to apply any pressure or gain lane prioI'm endlessly queued into zygotes with <50 games playedI genuinely think this game's been in the worst state for a while now
>>570561950battle of the retards
>>570562070thats a bot game
>>570561586I'm EU. It's weird cause I'm vocal with useful comms but even the people that accept never seem available to play.
>>570515663thats purely just pvp hours. ive played through the game like less than 5 times. ds3 has better build variety than ds1, des and bb for actual pvp
How the FUCK are you meant to play Victor and not just fucking eat shit immediately?I've tried the generic "stack aura and then manfight" and all that happens is I get violently shredded in four seconds flatIs this one of those heroes where he only works if you massively outfarm everybody
>>570562286EU is bit weird because of accent + language differencesI have a massive bong accent thats hard for even other englishman to understand, much less ivan from serbia or whatever.
>dont follow shiv into a tight chokepoint>suddenly his hero does literally nothingwhat a sad hero
>Win 5 in a row>Game decides to start to force 50 me>Lose 3 in a row despite us not ONLY winning lane but having an early game lead and winning teamfightsWHY DO TANK PLAYERS LIKE SHIV AND BILLY JUST FUCKING JUMP INTO THEIR BASE AND DIE?!I DONT GET IT MAN ITS INSANE.
>>570562468based
>>570562637youre asking this about the easiest hero to play in the whole game? okay>How the FUCK are you meant to play Victor and not just fucking eat shit immediately?have ult up when going in. get suppressor, resists, ee, infuser. in that order. now you wont die immediately when going in. youll die but not as fast. dont buy tpulse, its dogwater. dont buy improved spirit/boundless, that just makes your aura hurt you more.>Is this one of those heroes where he only works if you massively outfarm everybodydepends on build. utility and tanking for your team doesnt really require souls. i usually have average souls on my team. if trying to do spirit carry then you need souls
solo carried a losing seeker lobby as a first time kelvin with my actual initiate buddy while teaching him the gamehad to wrangle teammates, especially a Mina who was farming jungle all game for no reason until I told her to farm lane creeps because they've been crashing into our towers all gamet. Ritualistthere was clearly a good Venator on the enemy team but he kind of had zero counterplay against EE+duration KelvinI started beating him while I was down 10k and the game ended with me being up 20k above himthis character is the poster boy of dishonesty, holy shit
why does this game take fucking forever to match me. Meanwhile TF2 which has the same amount of players but more in a server takes like 30 seconds
>>570563491you cant be this retarded
>>570563272ee+infuser+boundless+duration ice beam is the most overpowered build in the game and has been for months. add a shadow weave and divine kevlar in there for the most guaranteed free kills in the game's history
>>570563491seconding the other guy. i think even AI could answer this correctly for you. i hope youre baiting
>>570563491
>>570562676No no, he's very strong because he can go slightly faster by abusing a bug.
>>570563762>bugits CLEARLY very intentional. theyve even went as far as balancing the whole hero around that mechanic with the stamina changes>>570563491>
Urn on green should be king of the hillUrn on yellow should be heavy melee brool
>>570564445>aoeslop urn>meleeslop urnwhere's gunslop urn
>>570563987>deadlock needs 12 players who fit together reasonably wellTHEN WHY THE FUCK DOES MY TEAM GET THE ABRAMS WHO GOES 0/20 BY 10 MINUTES GROK?!WHY DOESNT THE ENEMY ALSO GET A DOGSHIT ABRAMS TO BALANCE THINGS GROK?!?!?!
She'll rise again
>>570564991>WHY DOESNT THE ENEMY ALSO GET A DOGSHIT ABRAMS TO BALANCE THINGS GROK?!?!?!the enemy does get those too but those are the matches you also won so you dont remember those because you only focus on the negative. if you linked your statlocker i could go through your matches and prove this to you in a second
>>570565123>enemy gets those too but only in games you winbut if the game cared about balancing, both teams would have a dogshit player, no?So why is it only me who gets the dogshit players
>>570565061i want to lick her asshole after she gets done with a match
>>570565219>but if the game cared about balancing, both teams would have a dogshit player, no?you cant balance something this high level with so many variables perfectly>So why is it only me who gets the dogshit playersyou dont. if you did you could link your statlocker to prove yourself but you know its not true so you wont
>>570565061Nerfs will be reverted Buffs will be granted She will finally become S tier
>>570563987It's a bug, and the fact that they balanced the character around it is the problem.
Why does statlocker say I'm ascendant 1 when I'm eternus 2
>>570565369>you cant balance something this high level with so many variables perfectlybullshit cause every wiki article about how something in this game has an equation that looks like pic rel
>>570565625you need to stop queueing with your friends if you care. it's dragging your average down.
>>570565330This, but her rainforest pussy instead
>>570565760Ohh that makes sense
>>570565625it says im e6 when im e1, should i sue yoshi?
>>570552256>based space creatorit's an underappreciated role, let me tell yanoobs with not enough hours often call it "feeding"
I know Seven is supposed to be omega ultra plus SS Waffen busted tier broken but every time I get one in my team, he just feeds and loses us the game. I would ban him if that shit worked.
>>570566047You're not imagining it, anon: I am that Seven.
>>570565985Okay so if you're communicating your intent to draw attention and tell people to push in advance that's fine but if you just randomly walk into the entire enemy team and die in 20 seconds that is just feeding.
>>570565545>they just intentionally added an impulse to his gun for no reason and didnt think the players would use it for anythingmeanwhile tf2 has rocket jumping, FaN, detonator jumping etcetc that have even longer histories from past games. you cant be this retarded. its clearly intentional and theyve done this for a long time in their past games>>570565669what is the point youre trying to make with that expression? you cant model human behaviour with math perfectly. statistical models for something related to humans usually have a huge variance around predicted values. human behaviour just has too much noise in relation to data.t. almost done with masters in statistics>>570565760not the whole story>>570565625how long have you been eternus? it takes a while to catch up. im e4 while statlocker says im e1 which i was a week ago or something>>570565832how is that possible? shouldnt statlocker update your rank as soon as you hit top 1000 in your region since it can see your true rank? im thinking youre lying on the internet
>>570566047So the problem with Seven is that he has no mobility no escape nothing. His baseline move speed is terrible. He's much like Venator. Yes he does a lot of damage. But if I hex + slowing bullets you you're basically rooted and just eat shit in seconds. This weakness is extremely apparent in lane. Literally go rush a hex or slowing bullets against carries that already have shit move speed and they will feed like crazy if they ever leave their tower.
>>570566047Every Seven on my team sits around hoovering up souls and he still can't do damage or stay alive in a team fight while 15k aheadwhen they do show up at all because they will not leave their lane for any reason other than to jungle and end the game 1/9/2
>>570563027Thanks anonI know Victor is supposed to be brain dead easy but for some reason he wasn't clickingAfter my first win I am tentatively thinking my issue is "don't pick retarded fights" and "when my ult is down, 99% of fights are, by definition, retarded"Time will tell
>>570566821i usually just never engage without my ult. i max it first. i literally save ability points until ive unlocked ult in lane and immediately dump them into it to get max ult faster. so yeah, i dont think you can go in without ult
Ultbot Seven > every other sevenTake the ultpill
>Winning game pretty convincingly>Wraith dies ONCE>Types that he's just afking farming from now on>Nearly costs us the game because he just afk splitpushes when we're doing urnI FUCKING HATE THIS HERO AND THE SUBHUMAN BOOSTED NIGGERS WHO PLAY HERYOU DO NOT BELONG IN ASCENDANT SEND YOUR ASS TO ARCHON
why did valve take this game, that they seemed so hype for and just.... stop. working on it?
>>570567439trapper isnt dead he just became graves
>>570567439>just.... stop. working on itwhat do you meanAre you not aware of valve timeEvery big update will take 4-6 months roughly
>>570567127Like half the people that play this game are mentally ill. Doesn't matter what character they main. At least in dota, they might rage and call you slurs, but they keep playing. In Deadlock, if you don't follow on a retarded dive or play, there's a high chance the retard will just afk. The game isn't even out yet, and the community is already so bad.
Paige is not THAT bad, c'mon guys
Statlocker or Tracklock?
>>570536245Does anyone have this with the Infernus edit?
>>570567439you vill test ze urn
>>570536316it's always an oracle posting 'seeker' and a eternus posting 'oracle'. remember this.
>>570536651are you forgetting she has a built in sleep or something
ho-lee fuck this threads dead
>>570570754When they killed Silver, they killed this general.
>>570570754The game sucks.
>>570571198>>570571213my last queue took so long I actually became hungry and had to dip queue to go make some food.
>>570571213facts. it's time to play a better game like baldis basics plus
>>570570754the game is in the worst state it has ever been
>>570566458All those things you listed look natural and are intended (because they're in a finished game).The point of Shiv's M2 was to be an extra powerful shot that has the drawback of stopping your movement so you can't use it while chasing someone. The way they did it was by making it give the player negative momentum for an instant.Using it to eke out a fraction of a second in every slide looks janky as fuck and it's Super Mario 64 speedrun tier shit. It was clearly not intended, but since influencers and movementrannies would throw a shit fit if it was fixed, they balanced the character's whole kit around it. It's why his win rate is in the shitter and only autistic speedrunners do well with him.
>>570570754Graves and Silver need another round of nerfs, that's the only way to save the game
>>570572440shiv's M2 was ported from holliday, who had the force of nature from TF2 as a gun swap ability in NPpretending it wasn't always going to be a movement thing is asinine
The worst part of the lower brackets is that it's so fucking inconsistent that you can't learn properlyEvery match feels like a coin toss because individual skillsets are expressed in chaotic ways and sometimes everything lines up and sometimes everything goes to shitPeople will say things like "oh nobody does X in low ranks" but that's a load of shit, there is nothing that Eternus players do that I haven't seen done in the shittiest of tiers, it's just really inconsistent on how often or how effectively each thing is done
Can any doorniggas give some door utility ideas?Aside from escape routes when im pushing walker I hardly ever use them
Is this a good sign someone is smurfing or cheating? They started playing early April and they're in Archon matches.
>>570570754I post on /vrpg/, this thread is like a Marrakech souk in comparison
>>570572675You keep calling it force of nature when they're completely different things. FoN is effectively an extra jump, Shiv M2 stops you dead in the air if you try using it like that. The only way it provides a boost by abusing a broken Source engine mechanic related to vectorial speed.
>>570573662My main board is /vm/ for the games I play. There's a few posts a day tops. Maybe 1 new thread a day.It's slow but I don't want /v/ or /vg/ fags to find it.
god it feels good to see this on a support
Why are all melee players like this? > Join game as Geist> Calico as my lane partner> Opponents are Billy and McGinnis> Calico sits in cat form the entire time waiting for me to get them low enough> Screams at me because I can't do that less than 2 minutes into the game> Abandons lane and fucks off to blue to gank> I wound up getting MVP
>>570574569I think it's more specifically calico players.
>>570574569I can only imagine how low your rank is, or how schizophrenic you are to misinterpret reality like this.
>>570573761thats a different anon>>570572440>The point of Shiv's M2 was to be an extra powerful shot that has the drawback of stopping your movement so you can't use it while chasing someone.you asked the developers personally?>The way they did it was by making it give the player negative momentum for an instant.so like FaN?>>570573761>FoN is effectively an extra jumpit doesnt though? if you have horizontal momentum and you fire it while facing towards the direction youre going youre just going to stop midair just like shivs m2. in fact both are used the exact same way for movement. also spelling it "FoN" just goes to show youve never played tf2 as its actually "FaN", short for force-a-nature>>570574569matchid or didnt happen?>>570573476archon in two months sounds about right
>>570575282Why do retards just say anything is schizo without remotely matching the definition nowadays?
>blink>enemy team fed to shitalright
Need ixian shota...
>>570575510>t. ESL
>>570575441>in fact both are used the exact same way for movement. also spelling it "FoN" just goes to show youve never played tf2 as its actually "FaN", short for force-a-natureI played TF2 last 15 years ago and even I remember FoN gives you an extra jump if you aim DOWN, not forward.
>>570575869Yeah no I know what the definition is you stupid coon. I'm saying that doesn't apply to anything he said. He's literally just complaining about someone being a passive shitter in lane and then fucking off when he doesn't solo the lane perfectly for them. Now you're trying to make out like it's 'schizo' for him to have a problem with someone acting like an asshole. You're literally a low IQ nigger who just spews buzzwords to fit in.
>>570570754Someone hasn't seen /cgl/ I take it?
>>570575869now explain how that appliesidk if you know how retarded you look rn
>>570575869>guy blogposts about some sperg>OooOoOO SCHIZO IT NEVER HAPPENED OOOO THE CALICO WASN'T REAL OooOoostupid faggot lmao
>>570575869>loss of emotional responsiveness and apathy>clearly upset enough about it to post hereAre you the ESL?
I forgot this game is filled with people who don't understand English.
>>570568716They're both kind of shit. Sometimes I won't even find people at all on either one.
>Irish hero>he doesn't explode cars>he doesn't set neighborhood on fireYeah I'm thinking venator was a mistake
>>570576115>still calling it FoN>I played TF2 last 15 years ago and even I remember FoN gives you an extra jump if you aim DOWN, not forward.you misunderstood what i said. if FaN was unconditionally effectively an extra jump you could use it without doing any manipulation to your velocity vectors. this isnt the case though as with both shiv m2 and FaN you need to look down to get extra vertical velocity like you said. theyre almost the exact same except tf2 doesnt have sliding and that tf2 FaN doesnt also provide a stop in the direction towards the impulse
>>570576750>Misgendering Pocket on pride monthFucking transphobe scum
>>570576750based vague russian schizopost
>>570576803>>he doesn't set neighborhood on fireyour literal fire bombs, anon?
*Nap Times you*
>>5705769855 second jerk off break thank fu->someone immediately wakes me up
>>570576850Try doing a dash jump with Shiv and then M2 looking down, see what happens.
>>570577090I know what you were dreaming of
>>570575869this >>570576750 is what an actual schizo post looks like
>>570577174
>>570577147your point?
>>570577147>>570577597and heres tf2 just for comparison
>>570575869Making this connection is more schizo than just beefing with a retard.
>>570577597>all those victorsdishonest player.
>>570578147Literally all you have to do is scatter.boom, you just won a teamfight against deadlock's easiest countered hero
>>570578147i played shiv on release and then moved on to victor. i am the most dishonest player
>>570578458>Literally all you have to do is scatter.This is some exceptional downplay lmaoYes brother just never interact with the hero, never do objectives trust he is weak!!!
>>570578668>dont hug him as a team>buy healbanewhat are you complaining about?Sounds to me you're the dishonest one
>>570578458>Dives you under walker, kills you and then kills the walker as wellYes, very counterable
>>570578789>leaves with full health 2k soul bag and your bitch
>>570578789just let him take the walker bro
>>570578458We're talking about victor, not silver
>>570568404Those are unironic league players since that's the mentality their game fostered, atleast when I played before vanguard.
>>570578789>his walker was low enough that victor's ult was capable of killing itYou didn't care about it anyways so why are you bitching lmao?
>>570567127It's always the wraith picker too, overpowered hero that has at least 10% lower winrate than in should thanks to the subhumans that play her.
>>570578786HIS HEALING ISN'T THE ISSUE YOU DISHONEST NIGGERITS THE FACT HE HAS 3+ LIVES LATE GAME TO STAT CHECK YOU WITHAt least we know you'd be hardstuck ascendant without victor
>>570579067I have had matches where a victor is roughly equal in souls to me and my lane partner at the time. He was able to kill both of us, kill the full health walker, and make it out alive. We did burn his ult however.
>>570570754The thread is like 80% rage baiters and 15% venting about pubs and the remainder thirst posting.
>>570579318>At least we know you'd be hardstuck ascendant without victoryoure replying to another anon. i know full well my hero is dishonest
Making Victor use his ult give you souls as if you actually killed him would fix this character
Does this game have the worst solo player experience of any game ever made?
>>570568404what sort of historical revisionism is this? they literally had to put a limited duration of 10s on shadow amulet because so many niggers were using it to afk out
>>570579543I maybe play 4 games a day stretched across 8 hours or something. I just refuse to engage with the game any more than that because I know how miserable solo queue can be. Maybe when I'm not getting handed habitual feeders and being expected to play into stackers who will literally dump 4 ults on me in unison off cooldown I'll be more active.
>>570534761Any of the characters that have hyper-mobility make people think they are high skill. Shiv is braindead easy AND overpowered as shit.
>>570577147to recap: you said shiv m2 movement is a bug here >>570563762. i drew parallels with FaN to show that its clearly intentional to which you responded by saying that FaN is intentional and shiv m2 is not. you said shiv m2 stops you if used like the FaN which is not true. you told me to try this >>570577147 to prove your point. how was this supposed to prove shiv m2 movement is a bug
>>570534761any character that requires a high number of APMs to be effective is inherently high-skill because there's more opportunities for you to fuck upshiv has a mobility booster on fire rate CD, tons of knife charges with low CD, a and a dash with low CD that gets even lower CD if you don't fuck up
>>570564743Thats obviously mid
>>570561474Shiv's gun exists for two reasons1. To make his laning piss easy because it is a shotgun with really fast projectiles 2. To do his movement faggotryReally the M2 should just be removed.
Infernus is better than wraith because you can abuse leech better on him.
>Graves exists? that's a bug!
>>570566047Seven's fucking dogshit he only has a high winrate because he's one of the best farmers and objective destroyers
there's this weird bug where I lose more games than I win but my rank still doesn't go up. I even get MVP sometimes.
Picking viscous should just be a ban, all they do is spam splat and they are about as useful as bomb spam Geist players.
>Game starts, I'm laning with a calico as paige>Support him the best I can, he comes on mic every time I give him a good shield that saves him and he clearly has some kind of speech impediment and may also have a mental disorder>He's actually insanely good at calico and because I just flat out pocket him all game he literally goes 35/0>He's clearly just having a good time and shooting the shit while talking himself up and just talking about the game in general>Game is almost over>4/5 victor player comes on the mic>"Holy shit you retarded downie faggot just shut up nobody cares">Proceeds to say shit like this until the game is over>I tell the victor player to fuck off and let him know acting like a stupid dick won't earn him mvp since that's clearly all he cares about>Reassure calico player that this guy is a loser and that he's all goodReminder that being kind is free anons if you see someone behaving like a faggot make sure to call them out
There's this weird bug where I have to read gulps item descriptions and know what heroes do how do we get valve to fix this? why cant I auto select a build to have it auto buy for me and can we simplify the skills so the descriptions arent so long and can we remove 2 of the lanes? its really confusing to have three lanes
Greytalons are worse than any other hitler character in this game
>>570578789Bro just abandon every objective, let him take all your camps, your lane, your walker, your base and your patreon. Why do people complain about such an easy to counter hero?
>>570581742Just parry bro...
Victor ult changed from passive to activeYou can now use it whenever you want, but if you get killed before using it then you die
feeling really powerless as mina in terms of carrying dead weight, I go and apply my love bites just fine but this fucking ult just isn't enough to turn team fights anymore, glorified silence wave
there's this weird bug where silver doesn't start crushing my pelvis with her delicious wet doggy cookie when she leaps onto me in werewolf form, could valve fix this? hopefully sooner rather than later?
>From Top NA in Phantom 6 to Emissary 6 - MM is broken>I just have to address this and get it out of my system because I actually cannot believe it.>I want to give more useful feedback but this is a contextual emotional dump first.
mmr needs to be much more aggressive with deranking people. way too many overranked shitters.
Any good infernus napalm spam builds?
>Knockdown now does damage (2.0 spirit scaling, 150 base damage)>damage increases by how long the target is falling down forI fixed the item
>>570582069>the top NA lash/dynamo is phantomI seriously doubt this what the fuck is he on about
>>570582573maybe like a year ago he was 499 on the leaderboard for those heroes.
methinks i'm gonna play the vacuum BJ build on geist
> Get shit game with four supports and Lash> I am the only carry> Bebop on my lane goes 0-10 before the 12 minute mark, every kill goes to one of their four hyperscalers (Seven, Haze, Victor, Wraith)> Get a few kills and go to take a walker since they've taken three of ours> Lash and Silver on my team join me> Destroy the walker basically by myself with them watching, they then run away while the other team sends three in and kills me> They're both at full health> Just go AFK at this point since they're all back up, have rejuvenator, and are in our base with everyone down but me since I just came back> "GHEIST WHY ARENT YOU FIGHTING"> "REPORT GHEIST TOXIC PLAYER"
>>570582658I'm top 50 on Ivy and didn't think people actually gloated about this sort of stuff. If you're not at the top of a hero who cares? The general rank leaderboard matters more.
Kind of sucks to contest urn as Vindicta when people are constantly running around under the bridge and the veils.
>>570582729>and then everyone clapped
>>570582069>that builddeserves to be emissary. no unstoppable into paige. no warp stone. what.
>>570582729matchid or didnt happen
>>570582981I don't feel bad for you.
>>570582981>guys please stand still!>I can't kill you if you take cover and dont stand still!!>4 charges of long range executes isnt enough!>I NEED MORE!!!!
>>570581465I was stuck in initiate for hundreds of hours back around October ish. Then they did a reshuffle of everyone based on something and I got put in Archon. I haven't dropped or risen since.There's definitely something fucky with ranks but they also don't matter at all right now. There are people in Archon still missing the sinner's lights, still not last hitting, and people leaving runes to expire. It's absolute madness.
>>570583987>I haven't dropped or risen since.link to your statlocker?
>>570581496A good cuber can change a match. A good fister can change a match.A good baller can change a match.A good splatter annoys the entire enemy team and gives you free top player damage every match but rarely do you have any actual effect.
>>570584043You and I both know it's unreliable.
>high prio a hero>find a match in 10 seconsd>its not my high prio herowhats the fucking point of this system
Remove parries, they are cheats.
>>570584243i literally just want to see your winrate without bullshitting. if your wr% is 50% or under you deserve your rank or less. considerably over 50% wr and it would be weird
Remove walljumps and ventsThis don't hold forward to move forward shit is poison to new players
>>570531543I think honestly spirit drift is the play, if you have low weapon investment then your passive is a larger %, relatively speaking
>It's another "team's Vyper literally never slides" episode
>>570541767Its a support item
>kill viscous during his ult>fatal crash into verify game filesJesus Christ, luckily my Wraith was ahead and managed to carry so the team won the game 5v6
>>570549734All op except spirit sap
>win four games>about to get back to my previous rank after deranking finally>game deploys the screeching russians that feed and seethe all game>loseuh huh....random matchmaking....yes....sure....
Echo shard needs to go its the most cancer shit imagineable.Paradox shouldn't have double bombs
>>570585172Yeah I fuck around with echo shard stoneform and it's fun but I would happily give it up to know no one else can abuse it. Get rid of refresher while we're at it.
Meta Independent Team Composition Framework---## Book I: Definitions>Definition 1 A *meta* is the prevailing set of dominant strategies, heroes, and item builds within a given patch or competitive period.>Definition 2 A *meta independent* framework is one whose principles hold true regardless of the current meta, deriving conclusions a priori rather than from quantitative hero or item statistics.>Definition 3 A *soul investment threshold* is a numerical breakpoint at which stat returns from shop investment change in character. Two such thresholds are recognized: **4,800** (called the *Spike*) and **9,600** (called the *Cliff*).>Definition 4 The *Spike* (4,800) denotes the threshold at which investment yields outsized statistical returns.>Definition 5 The *Cliff* (9,600) denotes the threshold beyond which returns diminish at an accelerated rate.>Definition 6 A *stat distribution* is a triple assignment of soul investment across three categories: Vitality, Weapon, and Spirit. Three canonical distributions are recognized, each defined by their deficient category:- **Low Vitality** — 4,800 Vit / 9,600 Weapon / 9,600 Spirit- **Low Weapon** — 9,600 Vit / 4,800 Weapon / 9,600 Spirit- **Low Spirit** — 9,600 Vit / 9,600 Weapon / 4,800 Spirit*Note: Monochrome and duo-color distributions are excluded for brevity and due to their centralization of power.*
>>570585172Echo shard pillow nuke
I'd be blueberry rank if it wasnt for russians
>>570585419>Definition 7 A *role* is a functional classification of a player's primary contribution. Three roles are recognized: **Tank**, **Damage**, and **Support**. Roles such as "Pick" are considered sub-roles subordinate to one of these three.>Definition 8 *Positioning* is the effective operating range of a player, represented as a binary: **Frontline** (shorter effective range) or **Backline** (longer effective range). Positioning is independent of role — a Low Vitality hero operating at short range is Frontline regardless of whether they fill the Tank role.>Definition 9A *damage style* is the temporal character of a player's offensive or defensive output, represented as a binary: **Burst** (cooldown-gated, high-peak output) or **Sustained** (continuous, consistent output). Examples: Kinetic Dash and Burst Fire are Burst; Swifter Striker is Sustained. For Vitality, shields are Burst and armors are Sustained.>Definition 10 A *lane* is one of three map segments defined by the distance from tower to bridge. They are designated: **Short Lane**, **Long Lane**, and **Mid**. These designations apply symmetrically to both sides and require no color reference.>Definition 11** The *win condition* is the destruction of the enemy Patron.>Definition 12 A role's *proximity to the win condition* is its causal distance from directly achieving Definition 11. Damage is nearest, Tank is second, Support is third.
>>570585486I'd have won my game last night if my Billy didn't get parried back to back for 4 deaths in laning phase. (He then blamed me and said he did all the damage in lane, lane stats showed he did a third of my damage)
>>570585560 Book II: Postulates>Postulate 1 This framework may be applied to any meta, known or unknown, balanced or otherwise>Postulate 2 Quantitative factors — including hero statistics and item statistics — are not considered. All reasoning proceeds from qualitative, a priori principles>Postulate 3 Three stat distributions are sufficient to describe all valid builds considered by this framework>Postulate 4 All roles reduce to Tank, Damage, and Support. No other primary role is necessary>Postulate 5 Positioning and role are independent attributes. Either may be assigned without constraint from the other>Postulate 6 Damage style is a binary; no intermediate states within this framework. Book III: Principles>Principle 1 — Decentralization Due to diminishing returns and the counter-itemization economy, power should be distributed evenly across qualitative factors. No single dimension of the team's composition should be concentrated. This principle underlies draft, macro, and positioning decisions throughout>Principle 2 — Asymmetric Lane Assignment. Short and Long lanes each receive one Tank (Frontline) and one Damage or Support (Backline), producing role asymmetry within each lane while maintaining balance across the teamPrinciple 3 — Draft Priority by Proximity Heroes are drafted in order of their role's proximity to the win condition. The second pick of any role carries lower priority than the first pick of the next role. The canonical draft order is therefore:Damage Tank Support Damage Tank Support>Principle 4 — Damage Style Decentralization No two players sharing a role shall share the same damage style. Burst and Sustained are distributed within each role category to prevent exploitable homogeneity>Principle 5 — Stat Distribution Decentralization Each stat distribution is assigned exactly twice across the six-player roster, such that no stat category is uniformly depressed or elevated across the team
>>570585795>>570585560>>570585419That's a lot of words, too bad I can't read.
>play lane janny>get flamed for clearing waves crashing into walkersINTeresting.
I love having to wait a week before retards catch up with the changes and start to actually banning holiday
>>570585920GO MID SUKA OK? NA HRINAY TVOYU MATY
>Metro ints 4 times on apollo>Closes the game and admits he's just going to swap to a smurf so he can stompWhat a fucking retarded loser
>>570586276its been 3 days bud
>>570585920This happens so often it's literally like these people don't understand how mobas work, I was clearing lanes as dashfernus and this fucking silver player kept spamming YEAH YEAH INFERNUS KEEP FARMING THAT WILL WIN US THE GAME it's like they think they're playing call of duty or some shit
>>570586496i think thats his point. hes mad people arent already banning holliday
>enemy has only spirit damage heroes>stack 70% spirit resist>die in three seconds anywaySpirit nerf when?
>>570586637That one community poll that came out recently that showed that the majority of the playerbase are Overwatch players really answers a lot of questions
>>570586484I'm pretty sure that your rank changes more rapidly the more you're performing (or sucking) in a short period of time. So they hop on smurfs to cool off so they don't get chucked out of E6. It's really pathetic.
>>570586276Nah I'm banning Yamato forever. By the way to this day urn carriers will ask me to pick them up on Ivy and I'm just like "no, they changed that like a year ago". And they're always surprised to hear it. It used to be good for solo, then that got removed. Then you could still pick up others carrying urn and it had niche usage in picking someone up so you could dunk them over the urn. Now that it's KOTH there's literally no time you would ever do it.
>>570584487It's about 50/50. Last time I checked I had slightly more wins than losses but mostly negligible.My rank might be deserved because I haven't moved but why are there braindeads still acting like initiates?
I abuse the FOTM OP characters but Seven is my backup main whenever nerfs happen because Seven never gets nerfed
>>570586496yes, and holiday has been a literal terrorist hero for the past 3 days, but instead I'm seeing people ban random bullshit every match draft mode can't come soon enough
>Mo&Krill and Silver are the banned characters of the matchLOL
>people say they want draft>what they actually want is to ban heroes they hate and complain at people for not picking the heroes they want them to pick>somehow people don't know about Dota's ban system>somehow people think their team is just going to pick what they want instead of bitch at them for their picksamazingly retardedI hope draft never comes, the current system is unironically much better for anything short of 6v6 premade sweats
>>570565625it says im Emissary IV even though im Archon IV
>>570587878I ban silver because its 5 v 6 when she's on my team sorry.
>>570585889Most of it isnt necessary, the image is the statement with everything else just constructing that point. Its for team leads where you can actually influence who picks what
>>570587982Maybe in shitlow, in sentient ranks people will draft well
Bebop shouldn't be so tanky if his playerbase never even buys green items, only purples like echo shart, mystic reverb, boundless spirit, tankbuster, etc, all just to go 2/16
McGinnis is my cursed character bros. Every single time I play her without fail, i'm melting the enemies and suppressing the fuck outta them but my team literally cant do shit to follow up and we lose.But when I play my GOAT character we win.
>>570587982Dont forget if you mute them then they'll just FF and afk the whole game
>>570587982>>570588394Bans will literally just be>Dynamo>Yamato>[insert two FOTM here]forever. No one wants those obstacles and threats surrounding mid boss.
I can't wait for the total Yamato rework. Seriously this has to be the most OP hero in the game in terms of kit>Unstoppable + 60% resists on ult >Can teleport through walls with a point and click hook
>>570588562>see mcginnis players getting the most free games of their lives>on a loss streak, tilted >pick mcginnis>build ult>my entire team is drooling retards and no matter how much damage or CC I put out we losesigh
One awful loss streak and I fell from Almost Ritualist to this rank and I literally cannot get out every single time I get to mid alchemist I get the worse games back to back can someone give me tips on what to do Im out of fucking options here I cannot do this anymore I am incapable of carrying people like this
>>570588979um she's not that good though silver is more op
>>570588979>teleports on top of you>does half your health>ults>completely immune to all debuffs and cc and tanky as fuck too>does the other half of your healtherm just buy spellbreaker to dodge one instance of damage
>>570588979I don't care about her ult but the grapple is the most problematic part of her kitWith it you can invalidate any and all positioning or movement gap by pressing a button and teleporting through walls
>>570589165GULP! THEY'RE ONTO US YAMATO TAMATOS....
we have you now
A cute spider waifu would save Deadlock>She can climb walls, stick to walls, grapple to walls, like Fathom>She can summon little spiderlings like Trapper
I just want my teammates to not feed thats literally all I ask for i dont want them to do ebin movement techs and kill everything all I want is for them to push waves end the match 0/0/0 just stop going to blue after getting killed four times in a row to try and save your stupid KDA
>>570589450wheres the impregnation mechanic
>>570589624It's all ego. People feel like they need to salvage things and stop thinking.
>>570589450Would stuff her oven
>30+ minutes>half their team is dead>ping and comm to come with me to get on their half of the map and get aggressive>nobody comesit's all so tiresome.
>>570589706She's in the ritual because she's trying to wish for a human husband (spider girls are very unpopular in 1930)
>>570589706Graves already has that>It's explicitly said that she "prefers the dead">She gets skull charges by killing enemies
>>570565625It's outright wrong and retards take it seriously.
>>570589020NTA but either im mentally retarded or McGinnis' ulti is the worst thing ever. It deals no damage, sucks ass to aim, and makes her a huge target.I just build headshot McGinnis and rape everyone in my crosshairs
>>570565625>Statlocker says my newb friend is arcanist 4>He's actually seeker 3
>>570588562>X hero on my team shit>X hero on enemy team is Macha Gabe NewellWhy is this so common?
>>570590187>check statlocker>says im Seeker 4>Im Ascendant V
>>570579031I did this shit in Dota except you just broke your items or use your one allotted abandon if you got a Techies at allShame you're larping about it though
>>570590187statlocker ranks are just straight up fake
>>570588562>>570589020>>570590156Even when she's my most played character, she's so inconsistent. Obliterating idiots with ult can be the funniest shit in the world, or it can be insanely frustrating as people take zero fucking damage even with the giant investment items like exposureI've also been a fucking gun ginnis main since I've found out about her and sometimes her gun feels about as strong as Ivy's pea shooter. Or I shred everyone and build items that also let my ult explode people who don't expect it to be strong.There is absolutely no consistency in this game
I'm checking extra competitive.I'm sure its just placebo but I need to believe it will do something
>>570590508I didn't play dota until after I played deadlock, but it was over all a much better experience compared to league games on average. I geuss the dystopian social credit rating system does work.
Graves got nerfed? She's still stomping seekers lol
>>570588849Nah my perma ban is wraith
>>570590840Yeah from what I hear they really locked that shit down in Dota since I left about 3 years ago too so I left at a good time. They also changed Techies to not be completely cancer to play with so that's a non-issue probably. Hear Tinker is still bad.Won some game against a guy going 1-15 or some shit. Got him on my team the next, noticed his lane was running it down religiously before the 15 minute mark and mentally checked out. It just ain't worth the stress sometimes. I think the wrong mindset is that these things are done out of frustration. And usually you can tell when people are just soft throwing because they don't give a fuck. The endless killing waves and limit testing serves only a purpose to feed the enemy team and not look like you want to lose. So they tax you for ~20 minutes of your life. Why do these people have rights again? What about my teammates that were having good games up until that point? Nobody has self respect when they play this game.
Rusnigs should be executed
>>570590738same with Vindicta's ulti.It will either kill them after half HP, or it leaves them with 1 HP and I have no fucking idea how it determines the damage.
Billys just can't stop feeding in lane phase
>>570591485>Billys just can't stop feeding FTFY
>>570591485and Shiv's cant stop feeding in late game
>Win lane>But someone on the other team won their lane harder>They're on better heroes than you are>The game takes ~45 minutes and was decided 5 inLast 5 games I've played
>>570589912>tfw born in gay ass clown world timeline instead of deadlock where I find a spider wife in some backwater town’s woods
>>570591485I was watching my friend play and he was like 5 minutes in and his billy was just a useless piece of shit just hovering around in lane doing nothing and he was getting frustrated with him and I just told him he should be glad he's not 0-6 by now like most billy players
>>570591373Nah that would be a mercy they deserve to be tortured to death.
/dlg/ I got a good idea for something fun we could do together...Let's all build green items only for one day!!!
>>570591696His laning is pretty weak for the first 2-3You can really feel his falloff and early Blasted is still nerfed
>>570591884I already do this as Billy, though.
>>570591901now imagine being ivy and being weak for 6
>>570591541Game needs a surrender option
>>570592053Ivy players don't have rights with 4 starting stam I'm sorry
I wish builds had winrates next to themIt'd be nice to know if the Tracklock 97% Silver build is actually helping people win
>>570591884unironically building spirit + bullet + reactive barriers would be insane and idk why people don't>>570592132weakest gun in the game with abysmal base stats and scaling. hope this helps. now ask yourself why grey talon gets 4 stam and a 9s cd steroid ability that slows, rapes you, has multishot and lets him fly on top of 10s cd aoe curses infinite range execute + stun ult that's invulnerable and completely safe to use on top of raping you with minimal 4800 investment into gun because their spirit scaling for some reason also bumps the fuck out of their base weapon damage AND move speed
>>570592378Talon should be raped to death and Ivy is a character that can never be allowed to be good or the game is terrible
>>570592378You're forgetting the 1k damage arrows on a 1s cooldown
>>570592540>>570592496>>570592378This is the problem with Deadlock, most of the characters in the game are not fun to play against.
>>570592731Is it ever fun to play against a character that isn't just target practice?
so i guess holliday is still C/B tier but now way easier
FACT: In streetbrawl you should always be able to choose knockdown if there's an enemy grey talon or vindicta
>>570592356eh might shit things up somewhat. any rank can use any build and they might not know how to farm or deviate and that could make builds look worse. I think the person's rank should just be next to the build so you know instantly to not give a fuck about the phantom build at a glance when you're trying to look for something that will work in eternus.
>>570592798Yes, some characters in the game are actually fun to play against, like Seven, Venator, Abrams, and Billy, to name a very small few.
>>570592828the hero is braindead. how people can pretend she's not like a low A tier is beyond me.
>>570591002>this character is still really good in the lowest ranks what the frickin heck bro?!graves is literally an illaoi situation
>>570593190I don't get how the billy matchup is fun. He either has infinite HP and slaps you around, or feeds. IMO neither is fun
just laned with a mina who proc'd 0 love bites in lane, and didn't get a stack for her ult until after 12 minutes.Ascendant btw.
>>570592892I think street brawl needs more item choices in general so I can build meme shit
why can't we have a casual/ranked split so people can actually practise heroes without ruining games or smurfing and ruining games
>>570594214Player count too low
I've been a full-time Graves merchant for the past month and it's gonna me from arcanist to archon and you can't stop me. I am coming for your elo, and I will switch characters and I will assassinate your lobby.
>>570594348I bet that would change if they banned VPNs
>>570593058> just appeal to authority
what the fuck is wrong with MM. I get absolute fucking retards non-stop. I have no issues losing from being outplayed, but since May I get abysmal teammates who actively ruin the chances of winning, and most of the time its vs teams that actually do shit.The URN is the BIGGEST FUCKING RETARD bait ever. Always, fucking always on my team, someone grabs it, rushes to deliver, and does it completely alone while no ones even fucking their or ready.
>>570594487if someone got to eternus with a build I'd trust them over the guy who's like 51% winrate at phantom
>45 paragraphs of annotationswhy are Ivy mains like this?
>>570594649>T3 Stoneform that lateI don't need any paragraphs to know this is bad.
>>570566047All of the other replies are wrong. The actual answers are 1) you're experiencing negativity bias and 2) Seven is so strong he boosts bad players into higher elos. I'm not kidding. Same used to be true of Haze players but is less so now.
>>570591946I envy you. You have fun everyday.
>>570581284it's funny how in eternus lobbies a graves dropping a tombstone with extended duration+cd reduction off cooldown would be a hard griefer just feeding the enemy team souls for no benefit at all, but in shitlow it's considered so OP it must be a bug. there really only is one elo in this game, it's unbelievable how bad most people are
>>570529431Ivy doesn't look like that
there are so many heroes that just can't play the game without a functional team. at least with some you can just vibe out tossing spells from your fountain while these retards run into a wall waiting to die.
>>570595317there's 2.E6 and everybody else.even when E6 players get swindled into E4/5 lobbies they're hilariously outmatched.kind of like in dota, there's immortal draft, then everybody else.
>>570595335sorry, here you go.
>>570594634And youd be committing a fallacy
>Russian premade asks for swap>Runs it down with Melee rem and feeds the warden 15 kills in lane>Check steam accounts>All lvl 1, obviously made to intentionally grief, cheat or smurfI fucking hate playing in europe manHow much of a disgusting subhuman do you have to be do this shit, get a hobby or something
>>570595662There's a bigger mmr difference from the start of immortal draft to the peak than to the bottom. E6 is nowhere near as wide as immortal draft.
>>570591002Her most recent round of nerfs mostly just makes her unplayable at high elos. Increased bounty on her summons makes her a walking soul dispenser, if she's behind and not heavily impacting the game she's just actively griefing. In shitlow that just doesn't matter, people don't know how to play off of the 2-3k soul advantage they get from other team having a Graves. And the jar charge nerf doesn't really matter in shitlow either, people are too stupid to understand when to jump Graves and stop her from permafarming sidelane, in high elos you're just a victim character with no ability to fight for 70% of the first 20 mins because you can only throw your jar once every two creep waves.This is evidenced in the data since the patch so far, her wr plummeted in eternus by almost 10% so far and only 2% in shitlow. Idk if these were targeted nerfs or just bad ones. Seems like they should be trying to make her worse at low elos without making her unplayable at high ones and they failed miserably on this most recent patch.
>>570593190You forgot Rem
Graves is only playable in brool because she doesn't feed a free 5k souls to the enemy team for doing anything
Geist's super long green middle fingers were made for stimulating the prostate while she works your penis
>>570593962boosted retard
>oracle 5 game>dude on my team with 17 games played TOTAL and 51% winrate is actually inting>other team has 2 level 1 smurf accountswhat the fuck did i do to deserve this yoshi you fucking hack
im honest
Deadlock is a really fun game and I'm very happy with what Valve has built. I'm looking forward to what is hopefully a long and prosperous future after it someday launches out of alpha.Also if I ever find the home address of this subhuman nigger venator who died 10x times in 5 minutes to drifter by sprinting at their walkers in side alone over and over, despite me begging in VC to care, I will show up at his front door with a ball peen hammer and cave in his eye sockets (in game)
I'm going to dismantle you at the atomic level
>>570597396Fuck you cheater
>trying to end against refresher Victor + refresher graves + cheat death door man
>>570598042how
>5v6 closer than it had any right to be cause Mcfaggot was useless in my lane and bebop + wraith is a combo only cunts use holy fuck what an infuriating comboLuckily Celeste had ungodly movement and could win a 1v3, Pocket was great and Warden's ulti basically wins fights unless he's retarded
>>570598042>there's a weird bug where my rank doesn't increase even though I get MVP sometimes.
>>570595867Good, good
>>570598298All my m1ggers are retarded
>>570598836which build are you using?
>Hyperbeam on spirit bebop with EE annihilates a 6k hp warden through an active Colossus in 3 seconds spirit bopper is back, glad gunbop is dead
>>570599168>not greenbop>dies
>>570599168Spirit damage is disgustingly op this patch.
>>570595945A HECKING FALLACY? OH MY SCIENCE!
Filling Mina's undead womb with bacon grease...
Remove spiritslop already
The true final redpill E6 players dont want you to know, is to build spirit shielding + weapon shielding in every single match on every single hero
>>570596065Smurfs throw games occasionally so they can keep smurfing in shitlow
im starting to get at the endo f my rope i genuinely dont know how to win games I cannot win a game I cannot I get a silver that feeds 5 times in a row I get a paradox who gives up mid game and auto binds a script so she doesnt go afk I get a mina roaming jungles at 5 minutes leaving her venator to fight a 2v1 for 10 minutes Im going insane
>>570595867that's also not what she looks like
>>570598875
>>570600568>lose one match>have a midlife crisis
>>570600221and reactive barrier too if you can get value out of it often. most cost effective health imaginable.
>>570600568>silver on team>loseMany such cases!
>>570600983this is my fourth or third loss in a row here was the match just before it :D>>570589126
>Billy into Vyper and CelesteWow that was not funYou just get perma kited and pokedBashdown doesn't even work on midair celeste most of the time because its so fucking buggy
>>570600890>piggyFound the problem
>>570601037I lost 8 games in a row before and I'm eternus 4.
its so funny watching metro run it down and rage on stream
>paige shield has 2x spirit scaling at max level and can shield 3 people at onceam I the only one that thinks that's a little uh.... retarded?
*Ahem*
>>570601292dont forget the 800 barrier and 80% weapon damage buff
I truly believe Sinclair's winrate will skyrocket to insanely high numbers when Draft is introduced. The ONLY reason this character's winrate is low is because his strength is purely determined on the enemy team comp.
>>570601292He literally gets into the stupidest fights and calls him team pussies for not backing him up in completely unfavorable fights. He just shit talked a seven and said he was too big of a pussy to turn his mic on, and as soon as seven speaks on mic he mutes him. He's such a fucking rat lmao.
>>570601510whoops wrong anon reply>>570601264
>>570601292you're probably just retarded.Rem can heal his entire team 3x over while being immune and you're worried about a barrier? lol.
>>570601364Move Geist into faggot zone, she's so broken right now
>>570601364move kelvin into faggot zone desu
>>570541767fred buys this on yamato
>>570601064Just lost another one
just press z and x retard...
>>570601680>gets knocked out of the heal if the person you're is cc'ed and has no way to get away or fight back>Has no way to get away in general after using his heal>Paige can just sit in the back and spam shit while doing this every chance she getsI dunno anon I think you might be fucking stupid
>>570587878Mokrill is OP freelo
>Orc 6>Lose 1 game>Orc 5>Win 2 games>Still Orc 5????????
>>570591002Sorry we have a ton of overwatch and tf2 players and the concept of pushing lanes is to hard for them to understand, the Graves nerfs will continue FOREVER
>>570603628>
>>570603628zug zug
>>570602870>echo shard to recast heal>divine barrier to cleanse cc
>>570604223>>570604261im not calling the rank "ora" im not dio brando
>>570600890>titanic teslawhat the fuck. just get extra charge if you want to clear waves lol
As Abrams do you stay in fights til the very end? Like if your team is dying and you are clearly losing do you stay and hope to get return kills or run if you can?
>>570604413i dont want to clear, i want to have FUN
50/50 matchmaking doesnt exist its more like 20/80 win two games in a row? here's five of the worst games ever
>>570600890search for saiah ivy, its better. its NOT L > R as you can adapt (ivy is very flexible) but it has all the items you want on her
>>570604516if nobody is below half HP my ass scooby doo's outta there the moment 2 of our teammates are picked off
>>570604620Okay then pivot to an actual gun build or run this for maximum fun.
>enemy team 80k in the lead>why?>"Yeah cuz the game is over bruh"These niggers gave up 20 minutes ago and have just been throwing in hopes the game ends faster.Fuck I hate shitlow so fucking much.Its these retards is why I'm stuck down here.
>>570604773i dunno i dont even play the game lol
>>570557708They need to copy heroes of the storm and have an "interrupted cast animation" cooldown and a "used spell" cooldown cause yeah predicting it should be more punishing
I need meme buildsif Im gonna be perma stuck down here with these niggers, then I might as well make it fun
>>570604773Or this if you want a faster tempo build. I regularly swap out the rescue beam here for something else depending on the game. Just feel it out. If they have a lot of catch go Rescue Beam.
>>570605029mcginnis headshot
Holy shit Kelvin is such braindead freelo you just imbue a few abilities on his grenade then press it to win team fights
so why does no one talk about the absurd DPS wraith, vindicta, talon, and viscous have
>rank is tanking>all matches are completely out of my control>playing lane janny>topping player and objective damage>contesting every objectivewhen is it my turn to get people with monitors on my team?
>>570605453huh, you want yoshi to give viscous more buffs? okay!
lost another game currently in another one apollo is going 0 and 2 and billy is 1 and 3 before 8 minutes :D
>>570605640no he needs to lose splatter bounces and the eshift cubeone of the most boosted heroes one could play
>>570605453Neither of those are S+++ tier like Silver so they will never get nerfed
I tried that Ivy build someone posted here for three days and I couldn't make it work so now I'm back to another gun crowd control Ivy for the time being
every one of silvers attacks during her ult should be parryable
>get some magic divorce up in brawl>keep fucking up the dynamo ult>give up and steal the mcniggis ult>start shredding everyone on the enemy teamhere's a special trick just for you.
Toim to end their mis'rable existence
>>570605243I prefer mcmoovement
>>570606374They are, metal skin and disarming hex
Waiter, waiter, more Shiv nerfs!
>be ivy, one of the few characters that can hit the capacitor cap>dont build it
>Mina>Celeste>Pocket>HollidayWho's next on the list of hyper mobile characters to become Yoshi's fotm?
McGinnis used to have a welders mask that flipped down when she ulted and her gun used to have a rotating barrel to match her spin up. This technology was lost
>>570606000i agree cube is already giga strong and splatter is elo boosting nigger ability. can hit you through like 45% spirit resist for 700+ damage on just one bounce. its splatter hitbox is also much larger than the visual indicator is
>>570607227>>570607227>>570607227>>570607227
>>570604773>maximum fun>echo shard statue faggotryYeah I would rather lose but stay honest
>>570604760This is what I thought as well and got flamed for it.
