Flat Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/6672420817338381588>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>570529179
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I'M GONNA SAY IT...NIGGERS!
Deleting both the urn and midboss would fix the game instantly
>>570605453Because deadlock players have the attention span of a rodent and they can only get mad at one hero per month. This month it's Graves. Come back next month and maybe people will realize how busted Viscous still is.
>>570607227What if Ivy sculpted her own chest?
>>570607775that would lewd hahacrazy even haha
inhouse ?
imagine the squishy sound silver's cookie would make if you were to grab it and gently smush it around, swishing the doggy juices inside of it around...
inhouse
Nobody is crying about viscous because beyond laning phase he's dodo dogshit. And honestly laning phase doesn't fucking matter unless one side feeds or is fed 20 kills
>>570608229code doko ?
Sex with Venator
Why is Graves not holding Victor's missing arm?
>>570608464they have to keep their tryst a secret due to the problematic age gap (she's 18 and he's a minor)
>>570608354pooplow post
Ult that can miss vs ult that can't. Geist is such a fat chud hero, love her though.>Ivy and Apollo chase into our jungle then play their team
>>570608613
>>570607648That’s just street brool
>>570608837Silver currently has a lower winrate than Viscous in eternus.
>>570608354>randomly get hit by 1 fucking splatter out of 4>-500 health
>>570608835The fattest chud m1 hero of today vs the fattest chud m1 hero of history
>>570608837>pulling up winrates when it favors pubstompersI play in eternus and that nigga is broken and egregious
>>570608971Just build Spirit Resilience (mandatory item btw)
How the fuck am I supposed to move about of the Initiate-Seeker hell if I keep getting put on teams with brazilians and absolute mouthbreathers who >don't listen to commands >don't push>don't know how to play their own characters>don't know how to counter build>don't play to their strengths>feed the enemy constantly turning it into essentially a 2v6 at worst and a 4v6 at best on averageI'm in hell.
>>570608837you will never see a single actual eternus player who cites these websites as proof of what's strong or not. they all just say things are strong or weak based on how it feels to play against them because they actually play in that elo and don't need to consult graphs to know what's good or not in their lobbies
>be victor>enemy gun paige being super overconfident>lots of early-mid kills>get ballistic enhancement spike>turn the tables>no one can kill me>paige awfully quiet by end game>starts blaming her teamatesFeels good to be the king
i love playing with noobs even if i have HUNDREDS OF HOURS PLAYED WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOENEMY TEAM FULL ON 100 HOURS BUT MINE?? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Calico is fucking broken now after the buffs
What would you say are the essential components that make a hero lane hitler?
>>570609712>low cd burst poke>decent to good gun>can easily wave clear
>>570609326Yes we know its all vibe based giga retards like eido
>>570609712Using Silver as an example of one of the best laners: poke, sustain, and burst all wrapped into one.
i love victor
the intro, menu music, concept art had me excited and hopeful but this game is really bad. fundamentally limited shooter mechanics smushed up with nauseating fortress assault game crap. i will pray that you all find better ways to spend your time.
>>570609712They can push lane fast and dive good thats all it takes
>>570609326yeah this. like you have to be fucking high to think yamato is balanced for instance.
>>570609910I dont think clear is very important, back when solo lane was a thing mirage was super Hitler with no clear at all, could just bully you out
>>570609916>"vibe based" aka people giving their actual opinions on what it feels like to play as or into characters, based on thousands of hours of experience, rather than autists consulting contextless winrates and treating it as gospelsounds good to me
>>570609313Play Pocket and push sidelines while your cloak is out in the opposite direction.People in eternus struggle dealing with this, it can carry you out of Seeker.
>pick wraith>clear waves>win lane with 3.2k powerspike and 4 stacked cards>sigma male grindset for 20 minutes and don't interact with anyone>roflstomp the entire lobby if you don't lose by thencurrent patch is so shit it's laughable
>>570608835>then play their team*blameThey were really cocky because they kinda owned me in lane and would run me down while Sinclair shot bolts from the rooftops. Then I just solo farmed until I became the rapist
>>570609313you have to play heros that have complete automony until you get to a rank where you can at least have 1 reliable teammate (ritualist-ish imo)
>>570609881thats because retards STILL dont understand this game is a moba a year after its release. They think "oh no biggie if I have an 80 second respawn timer and im the only tank on the team i'll just dive anyways!"
>one of the matches that isnt a stomp>wraith player of course leaves within 10 minutes after losing the first urn fight and we almost win a 5v6 anywaysI need to stop playing this game on weekends....
>>570609313Thats the neat part.You don't.
>>570610564Best part it was by a person who didn't even show up to the fights. A side lane Viscous that took all the farm from the Vyper that, while new, didn't have a lot of farm so had no shot at carrying.
>>570610198dont listen to this guy i played graves and destroyed all 3 walkers literally by myself and some stupid fucking warden player had the audacity to say we lost because i never participated in team fights and that i did nothing
>>570610495which heros are that?
>>570611117Bane from dota
>Paige/Billy lane feeds a dozen kills to Gay Talon in lane phase
>used to enjoy joechuck vids>now he just yaps the whole vid with incessant, immature commentary like every other faggot streamerwelp it was good while it lasted
>>570609916>>570610179It's called intuition.
>>570611279did you read the latest couple of patch notes, grey talon is the new fotm meta broken char
>new
>>570611416https://youtu.be/XjpLAaNfdoQ?t=114Wow he is one salty gay lord. He's literally playing the most annoying shit in the game and yet he's crying and BM commending mid game. You'd think he'd have a thicker skin with how smug he tries to portray himself
>friend who hates deadlock asks me to play with him>he either gets bored or tilted after 20 minutes and starts sprinting it down 1v6>still manage to hardcarry, but it's a grueling hr+ 1v11>"haha wow that was tough, gg bro, can't believe I carried that. I'll catch you later">"WYM anon lets go again!!"What do you do in this situationI know this man IRL and see him weekly
>>570611117Just pick a spirit nuker like grey talon or geist then just spam aoes on enemies.Seeker they're not buying any resistance. Just smash that shit.
>>570612179tell him to stop being a bitch and get better at the game
>>570611423I dont care what its called if it leads you to build headhunter on mina its retarded
>>570609998pedo
>>570612179"sorry bro you gotta work on your mental"I play with some friend who are bad but it doesn't bother me if someone sucks as long as they're trying to win.
>>570610298>double enemy's wealth>clip postin like it's skillbro you just out number'd them with your numbers.settle down.
>>570612676what
>>570612741if they aren't playing meta they aren't trying to win
Is there any game like Deadlock that isn't dogshit? Almost every match I play is either stomp or be stomped. Character balance seems to just be retarded. Avoiding a hero does absolutely nothing. The game basically ends as soon as one team gets a lead.
>>570612425>oops
>>570612179>I know this man IRL and see him weeklyOh good so you can kill him
Im a proud mo & krill abuser.
>>570613224You raped mo and krill?...
>>570613224You can't abuse Mo&Krill since they're an honest pick.
>game is going to shit>buy ricochet + lucky shot>winsome things never change.
>>570613042After recently playing league again I can tell you its worse everywhere else>YOOO BRO WHAT IF TOPLANE BECAME THE ANYTHING ROLE AND YOU GET FISTED BY SOME MAGE/ADC MAKING YOU AFK AT TOWER WITH ZERO COUNTERPLAY BESIDES SPAM PINGING YOUR JUNGLERI apologise yoshi, even at this game's worst I still had more fun.
>1st urn=3k souls>1st walker= 4k souls>"meta" is suicide into 1st urn
>>570613491Didn't work
>>570613585This is why I keep telling people to stop urn brooling but they literally won't do it god release me
>>570613585Yeah no you just take a walker first. >12-minute Urn: Souls2915 Souls>18-minute Urn: Souls3905 Souls
>>570612836Because obviously I had nothing to do with that. Not because I was constantly taking objectives and invading their jungle and winning urn fights. Or killing their carry over and over at equal NW.Which is why brawl clips are the height of skill expression and should be posted more.
Calico was already broken why buff her?
>>570611117honest spirit abrams
*mashes Q in lane**dives walker 1v3**spam pings you whenever he dies*
>>570613042what your describing is what people say about any MOBA ever. And having played League in comparison deadlock is way less stompy and feels winnable at more times in the game. You could try out dota. From the TTK and general pacing it feels similar to Deadlock
>>570612836The post is literally about how he farmed up after getting raped in lane. What you yapping about? The game is about wealth
>>570613624>Arcane Surge>Bullet Lifestealsorry, no saving that.
Blog IncomingCan't stand this game anymore 7 losses in a row multiple deranks with the most subhuman people on this planet if the game wanted me to quit congrats it won fuck this game until the next big Major patch
>Eva you are a deerIs calico retarded? Ava is a cat
>>570614974nah, just you.
>>570613585the urn sucks!
>>570613585>>570615282now hear me out bros. what if 'just focus on urn' was pushed by wraith mains.
>Ava, Mummy needs youThey still haven't changed these lines despite losing the Ancient Egyptian motif
>>570612179open the console, type quit, close Steam, close Discord, do some exercise or eat some food or watch something for a bit, come back and queue again.
>>570615351not even fucking funny how much of a mog an ancient egyptian goddess would be over bald negress
How many updates until we're more popular than LoL?
>>570615351>>570615501nu-valve would never do that
What do you buy if you want to give a Celeste player the day they deserve?
>>570607227why is calico in every single one of my games now
lane is my worst part of the game. which is unfortunate because I can tell I'm way better than everybody else once the mid/late rolls around.how do I stop being a fat chud that gets bullied in lane?
>>570616006She is OP and now she is broken after the buffs
>>570616020You're typically at the mercy of your teammate not being uselessBut otherwise figure out what makes your character strong (specifically what makes them stronger than the enemy) and play either bridge, veils, cover, or passive.
>>570613585the thing is both teams have walkers so both teams can get the souls from walker. That's not the case with the urn.
>>570616020against m1 heroes always angle yourself behind coverdeny farm more/time last hitsuse the stairs to get free slide momentum and get free bullets to deny farm/shoot creepskeep an eye on box timers and creep timers to get ahead in farm
Learning a new character is so fucking miserable dude. I pick some character i have like 3 games on because they look fun. But i already have 1000+ games on my account, so i'm getting matched against people with 200 games on a character and getting dumpstered. Or, you know, i could just keep playing the character i have 200 games on forever and actually win
>>570616465Sure but consider the missed lane creep, if it goes 60s and everyone missed a wave its almost breakeven
>>570615351goddamn I NEED to mating press impregnate that insanely sexy cat, get that ugly anime human bitch on the left out of here
Should I watch supertf or metro if I want to get better?
I love when we>Win lane>Win early game>Win Mid Game>Win Late Gameand then for some ungodly, unexplainable reason just drop the ball WHILE WE'RE IN THEIR BASE, and 2 guys get the perfect idea to... 1v1 someone they literally have no chance of winning then turning the game into a 4v6 in the last stretch so we just lose...
>>570613585retarded argument. first urn is urn value + kills value + if you win first urn you can just go push that side's walker anyways
>>570614738>oh no 1600 item that ruined the game
>>570617058Watch mikaels vods
Is leech viscous secretly OP?
>>570617475bro if you win urn that side everyones gonna be alive by the time you reach the walker. be real.
>>570617934depends on the elo. generally if you die first in 12 minute urn fight you can literally get back to the fight, but in low elo sometimes people respawn and just go afk farm another lane. if you have a strong pusher like seven/venator you can easily take first walker within 5 seconds
>>570612658Him being wrong doesn't mean it's a bad way of judgement.
>>570612179Play a different game with him. He just wants to hang out with you and do something to pass the time. He doesn't like Deadlock and you don't like playing with him so play something else. How do you guys even function irl?
>>570613564>YOOO BRO WHAT IF TOPLANE BECAME THE ANYTHING ROLE AND YOU GET FISTED BY SOME MAGE/ADC MAKING YOU AFK AT TOWER WITH ZERO COUNTERPLAY BESIDES SPAM PINGING YOUR JUNGLERThis shit started years ago before Vanguard, did it finally trickle down into average schmucks playing it too?
>>570613949lol swallow rod lol
>Newfriend developed into a gun Victor onetrick>He doesn't bring ult to t3 (-120s cooldown!) until he gets every other ability to t2, meaning he's handicapping himself for the first 20 or so minutes of the match>Doesn't farm either he brools no matter if ult is up or not which means he feeds his ass off early game
>>570617058yes.
>>570616373>You're typically at the mercy of your teammate not being uselessDon't give him an out. Lane is the phase of a match most impacted by individual skill.>>570616020There's a bunch of good guides on youtube for laning specifically, watch a bunch and pick out stuff you know you don't do well, then pick one thing at a time and practice it a bunch over several games. Watch your lane phase in replays and find spots where you're just in a bad position, or you pushed up past wave, or you played too passively, or you didn't use cover right.
>>570618664Have you told them this game isn't overwatch?
>>570617124happens more often than you'd think and its frustrating as shit EVERY time.Viscous PLEASE you CANNOT win this fight...
>>570619185>Viscous PLEASE you CANNOT win this fight...You mean Venator
"objective" players are retardedno, we can not push their last walker when they have seven and lash ult and there are only 3 of us on yellow
I don't play the main mode anymore, streetbrawl is much better
this is how playing deadlock feels
>>570616942I mean at best you send 4 people there and let your high econ heroes farm the other lanes. Otherwise it's just retarded unless it's comback urn
>>570613585Me in shitlo I never see people run urn. I don't myself cause people on my team don't show up so I am not gonna feed them the 3k and then the bounty for my death. Really annoys me cause they just slam down mid instead.
>>570620147I don't get why this webm is posted so much
>>570616915No but like seriously what the fuck am i supposed to do? I'm legit just going to make a smurf account. I hate these games where i'm playing some fuckass character i have 10 games on and i just get dumpstered all game. Even if i win i would rather have lost. Am i really just supposed to never play new charqacters ever again?
>>570617475No kill value if nobody shows or only a few stallers
>>570620147That looks grosstime to add it to my filter list
>>570620273ok well maybe you play in a 6 stack where everyone listens but in pubs you will always have 3-4 retards that see urn and will ALWAYS try to contest no matter if they're already 1/4th hp or 10k souls behind
>>570619043Saying "typically at the mercy" wasn't the right way to put it, but your lane mate will always have an influence on how you have to play the lane, usually in a bad wayOf course you are still always responsible for your own deaths
anytime i see a kelvin and a billy on the same team i just want to alt f4
>>570616915damn if only there was a mode where you could practice new characters in a casual, chill setting instead of griefing your team and holding them hostage for 30 minutes yoshi should add that kind of mode
Melee silveryay or nay
>>570620147>Why yes I think I will carry 4 extra planks at 1/4 of the speed and 200% the exertion, it's so much more efficient!now apply this mentality to deadlock
>>570619324i was originally gonna type venator but i forgot how to spell his name lmao
>>570620560Obviously some lobotomite would reply with "just play street brawl lmao" so i should have prefaced it, but SB does fuck all to practice characters. There's no 1v1s, there's no early laning, there's no farming, your build is random. Its a joke mode that doesn't help practice at all, which you would know if you weren't mentally impaired
>>570618346Its evidence for the contrary which is more than vibes have provided
Girlfailure Silver's rigging is still shit
>>570620535uhh bwo that doesnt do anything bwo
>>570620624nay cause it doesnt proc with her fursona
>>570620747unc needs to practice FARMING on a new character lmfao
>>570620939does it proc off her two and fursona 3?
>>570620987I accept your concession
>>570620728rushing a tier 4 item as your first one
>play gun build>have to hit every shot perfectly while dealing with slow projectiles and fall off damage range>mina hits me with one love bites proc, instantly spirit burned total 1400 damage>get hit by 2 shiv knives 1700 damage>get hit by dynamo wave from across the lane 800 damage>get hit by reverberating rem pillow 1300 damagelike what is even the point of the shooting in this game? is it just a preformative mechanic to trick fps players into playing the game? all the gun items feel like complete shit and there's no consistency to ANY of them because they all have conditions, but spirit players can close their eyes and click random icons and end up with a useful buildis this game made for fucking retards or something?
>lose 4 games>eomm assigns a retarded seven on the enemy team that only bought purple items and have 1.8k hp at 25 minutes so we get a free winyeah this game is dogshit, eomm killed rivals and it'll kill deadlock too
I don't have fun at any point while playing this game. Winning makes me feel miserable, losing makes me feel miserable, tho the point where it just shocks me to watch other people play and have fun and seemingly not care that the match is going to shit. I think i should just uninstall
>>570621628M1gger seethe lmao. Go back to cs tranny.
>>570619043>>570620514it's not really a feeding issue. it's a can't apply pressure and go 10-0 which people always seem to be able to do in every other lane.
>>570621628Play Graves then
>>570621036>>570620939Just tested it in pre-lobby.Lifestrike and Spirit snatch (and component items) proc off her base form 2 (boot kick) and her fursona's 1 and 2 (Go For The Throat and Mauling Leap respectively).Melee Charge and Crushing Fists dont proc but honestly the value of Crushing Fists giving stacking bullet resist reduction isnt half bad.I actually kinda want to make a build focused around this even if its just a basic tanky build
people who step out of the urn for a kill and give it to the enemy infuriate me.remove the urn, nobody knows how it works and half the times its not worth forcing a teamfight for at all.
so what's the Kelvin build now, grenade or beam?
>>570622223ee+infuser+boundless+duration on ice beam. if you want surprise buttsecks dome 1v1's add shadow weave and divine kevlar
>>570614872>dropping from arcanist to intiatejesus fucking christ, are you getting brooltards?
I'm unironically scared to play the main gamemode, what if I have a bad matchup and my team yells at me and calls me shit
>>570610287its been like that with Wraith for a long time, way before this patch
>>570614872>next big Major patchhear lots of people parroting this like MAGA "2 more weeks" retards. this game is clearly in trouble, the devs don't know how to balance it at all. look up what happened to artifact and underlords
I repeat: the Silver nerfs will continue as morale continues to improve.
>they think the big patch is still planned for august and hasn't been delayed
>>570622349that kind of sounds like a meme.
>>570622660People do the same in brawl. Besides, you will never get better if you don't practice it. Mostly, just show up to teamfights when you are expected to and don't repeatedly feed your lane. If you die and the lane isn't going well I think it's better to surrender it. Turtle under tower or behind it, take what souls you can, let the guardian fall and focus on winning urn fights. DO NOT RUN IT DOWN INTO THE PEOPLE WITH A SOUL LEAD ON YOU IN LANE AND FEED THEM MORE. The strat of going aggressive works only when you can outplay. Save that for when you are better at the game.Just my advice as a shitlo player trying to survive in low Arcanist.
>>570622793they got bored of those games because no one wanted to work on it, which clearly isnt the case herelook what happened to dota, they just keep doing stupid bullshit for it's own sake
>>570622660mute them. remember they are just as low rank as you are
>>570623474completely false, like 20-30% are smurfs
>>570623534Smurfing is cope, they get placed a badge below where they are after a few games. Every self-proclaimed smurf on my team has a huge chip on their shoulder and barely outperforms the average player in the lobby.
>be behind 10k souls>it's not too bad we can easily come back if we farm up a bit>4 minutes later behind 19k souls>another 4 minutes later behind 27k souls>6 minutes later behind 44k souls>4 minutes later behind 65k soulsoh ok they actually don't know what they're doing with the eco balancing in this game
>>570623878>behind souls because your team is worse>the gap grows larger because their team is better, which let them get the advantage in the first place
>>570623878Considering wraith can still totally solo mid boss I don't think they have any clue what they're doing with this game in general
>>570623878did you at least try to do comeback urnall it takes is their carry afk farming to get it
>>570623878gonna need you to elaborate on what the bug is here, Chief.
>>570624025>no counter play allowed>just fill half your inventory with counter items>did you try running the urn 6 times?typical dotabrain
>>570621628buy spirit resilience and dispel magic instead of going pure L -> R you mongoloid
>>570608835Who's more dishonest? Geist or Venator?
>>570624389already had spirit resilience and unstoppable but no i guess i should have had 20k worth of counter items for the guy who gets to do what he wants without counter buying me
>>570624524geist ult alone has more dishonesty than venator's entire kit
>>570621628Reinstall Overwatch, you're not gonna make it.
>>570624040
>doing mid boss instead of pushing lanes
>>570626152>push lanes>someone gets caught>dies>they do mid and get two walkersThings that never happend to me
>>570621935Going 10-0 in lane only happens if one end of the lane is tilted as fuck and running it down. If you're even remotely emotionally stable, you'll die 2 times and realize you have to chill the fuck out and stand under the guardian for the rest of the lane phase.
>>570626152>>570626365>Think my team is on mid>Pick a 1v4>Die>Wonder where the fuck my team even is as i'm by our walker getting ganked>they're doing mid bossThe boss 100% should NOT be under a fucking major lane, make the fucking thing like Roshan or Dragon in league so I atleast know when my team is doing it vs when they arent
why does glass cannon take away so much HP but boundless spirit has zero downsides?you lose so much HP from glass that you would have to deal 40+ bullets with the 80% bonus damage that it gives you, just to break even. shouldn't it's -HP be tied to the amount of stacks you have? ive been winning games, and then buy this 'win more' item just to immediately start losing.
>>570623878>souls are tied>we get in a fight and manage to kill a couple heroes>we run urn>we kill more heroes>we take midboss>we push>we kill more heroes>we keep pushing>we kill more heroes>we back off>we are now ahead>we kill a couple heroes easily>we forcibly take urn>we take midboss>we push everything>we are literally assfvcking them nonstop>this pattern repeats several times overevery game is a death spiral, with the only failstate reliant upon the leading team suddenly int'ing and/or playing like utter dogshit for no reason
>>570626785>and/or playing like utter dogshit for no reasonhappens to me every single fucking time.I genuinely GENUINELY dont know what drives people to think they can win a 1v4...
>>570622101on second thought, i'm not gonna do that
you know what? im just going to play victor in street brawl not for my entertainment but so more people suffer and quit hte game. fuck deadlock and fuck its devs for abandoning it
>>570626152This but unironically, since there is so many fags who haven't played a moba before in this game basic wave management and pushing lane is a free ticket to oracle
>>570627193I had a friend go from Seeker to Phantom spamming McGunnis.
>>570627130based
>>570627337you can get to phantom with a negative wr
tanks shouldnt be able to do a fuckton of damage.fuck you abrams, why can you do 750 damage in ONE punch.
>>570627702his was positive
>>570627981impressive
ok so where are the occult, eldtrich, lovecraftian horrors? why is it just tumblr trans shit?
>>570621602this is like playing league and not buying any sub-items but waiting until you have 2200-3200 gold to buy a whole item, it makes no sense to cuck yourself like this
>>570627751LETS SEE WITH THIS DICK CAN DO
>>570626516it's not fair bros why can't I ever have the tilted retards that go 0-30 against me in lane...I want the Billy that doesn't know what parry is and launches heavy punches all lane and runs it down...
>>570622223fargareko build is good.
https://www.reddit.com/r/artificial/comments/1u4h7k1/world_of_claudecraft_the_first_opensource_mmorpg/someone just made a clone of fable using claudeonly a matter of time before someone makes a better deadlock. i bet ai will be better at balance too and make better objectives than urn
All of my problems would've be solved if I just played Pocket
>See calinegro in my game>she swaps to mid lane>know that shes going to be ganking 24/7 and my my mid lane will never call out whenever she leaves the lane.>Calico 10-0 by 15 minutes due to retards feedingawesome
Think an real actual ayy lmao character would be going too far?
>>570622660People like Deathy always say you should play games on high ego. Some time it won't work, but you should play lane like you're better than them. If you don't and start the game with a "i'm not going to take risks" mindset you will never atually gett to snowbakll and carry the fmgae
>>570629886I think Viscous is as close to an ayy as you can get. I think a men in black character could be cool though.
i'm high as shit on benzos what hero do i play
>>570629465>losing to F tier hero calicoSeekerbro...
>>570629886get this nigga in the ritual right now
>>570630495>I think a men in black character could be cool though.Unfortunately this role is already taken by Haze, same as how Wraith took the gambler and mob boss roles, as typical of wokeslop deadcock
>>570627672the worst part is that he never needs to melee you, bashdown just fucking nukes more than this
getting hit off of a hyperline should only deal a stun, not 6 gorrillion damage.
>>570627672imagine being hit with a kelvin goybeam at the same time
Only thing worse than McGinnis is McGinnis players. They have one brain cell. RUN DOWN WALKERS. They don't care how my lives it takes they will run down lanes and die trying.
I just saw a Pocket who rushed Focus Lens and was trying to be discount Haze. Ran in, used lens on someone, used his ult, and then the damage from Focus Lens kills. First time I've ever seen that.
Man, there's no T4 gun items that are actually good for just dealing damage, everything is so niche. Even GC and Lucky are complete garbage now compared to what they were before. Can we just remove the gun shit from the game at this point so that new players don't get the wrong idea?
The ugly truth of mobas and most games in general, is that those people in your games who drop 10 deaths and end up completely useless will probably improve at the game much faster than you will. Limit testing, pushing yourself even if you aren't confident- that's where progress is made. You'll win more if you play "smart" or "safe", sure, but what's better:Inting 50 games, then going on a 65% wr run to eternusOrWinning 30/50 games by exploiting your low elo enemies tendencies to make mistakes, but then spending 150 hours in archon with a 52% wr
>>570631271don't worry, people have been bitching about the spirit/aoe meta for over a month now, so they will buff gun and nerf spirit until people start bitching about gun again and then they will buff spirit and nerf..
I wish people were as vocal for Seven nerfs as they were with Graves and Silver
>>570631271>all T4 items either give dogshit stats or have a weird gimmick associated with them that is barely noticeablebravo valve...
>>570631423>see the same guy months apart>had a memorable steam name>0/20>about the same performance he mad a month agoYeah I'm sure these animals improve faster than me
>>570630973>kelvin goybeamKek
>>570631423>whats worse being a GOOD rank or being a BAD rankare you retarded?
we were getting our shit pushed in, down 30k and the game didn't feel close at all the entire time since one of my lanes went 1-15 before 8 minutes, and our base was already opened up, but we won a comeback urn fight at 30:00 and a few fights later won the game.comeback urn is really strong late in the game. early it fucking blows because those resists don't help you win the fight yet.
>>570627672>You parry>It even makes the successful parry noise>It doesn't work due to netcode shenanigans>You die NERF MELEESBUFF PARRIES
if I lose this game im gonna q silver
nerf parriesbutt melee
>>570631558Sorry S+lver is the only one of those who was OP, don't forget
Remove parries, they are cheats.
remove urn and just add another boss or something in the jungle like blue/red buff in leaguesomething that you can afford to NOT fight over, but if you want to get it, it's still good.
>>570629886some kind of flatwoods monster could be coolI think the old patrons were meant to resemble it
So tired of gun meta. Uninstalled for now.
Once again I am asking Valve devs (as I know they read these threads) to add a spider waifu who can wallclimb and summon spider minions
>>570614636owned
If all mods are cheats, then I am a cheater.
It is kinda funny how most of eternus players have a huge ego. People spent 1-2k hours mindlesly queing in a game with 70k player peaks and think they are an actual 99th procentileI returned to cs just for a bit to take a break from deadlock. I have 2.5k hrs and I would say I'm mechanically great. I do warmup routines, play dm etc and here I'm getting humbled during my faceit placement matches. Every 3rd person in a match has at least 2k+ hrs in faceit lv5 lobbies and these people are still considered dogshit by lv10 standards which in itself is still dogshit rank by 3k+ elo standards despite requiring an insane amount of hours, grind and targeted practice.Current highest rank of deadlock will be considered a median skill in 2 years
>>570632952
>>570631423That is true if they actually play to improve and arent just bad.You can also have someone that is just bad, blaming his teammates in ultralow and never improve.You're right about the improving part, that learning causes to make mistakes untill you reach the point where it works rather than being safe though, but not every shitter is improving
>>570633007in 2 years there won't be deadlock because it's going eos this year
>>570632952I don't think you actually want to play this game retard-kun
>>570631423Type of post that someone who just went 0/15 in a match makes
0 reason to not play a carry in this game when they are extremely strong at every point in the game. I really don't understand the design choice here. why would you play a hero thats only good for the first 15 minutes when you can play a hero thats good from the very beginning of the game all the way to the end, starts off strong and gets even stronger
>>570633612carries fucking blow unless you're a schmovement gawd and WAY above the rank of the lobby with flawless aim.but then brawlers are still better in that scenario because it's way harder to die, and you don't sacrifice damage, and you can initiate instead of waiting for them to initiate.
>>570633937I accept your concession
>>570633937my bad I forget the average rank of this general is oracle yes I imagine if you are in oracle carries don't do very well and billy rapes you every match
>>570634146what do you mean? I just parry him.problem is shit like silver and drifter just teleport behind you and 1shot you while your team is busy trying to heavy punch the graves tombstone.
Every single character should have carry potential, not half a dozen m1ggers
>playing with my regular duo>receive truly terrible teammates and be forced to hard carry with the duo >play solo>receive mostly competent/good teammates and win games more comfortablySomething fucky is going on with the MM. And then if we play with a third who is also good for their rank, we win a ton of games, something like 60+%, because there's a guaranteed good third player on the team
>>570634554they do. just git gud.
Games should have a time limit.5 games in a fucking row that lasted an hourI FUCKING HATE SEEKER FUCK THESE NIGGER TEAMATES PUSH YOU FUCKING MELANIN INFESTED WHORES!
>>570611216I hate it so fucking much that the equivalent of Bane is Mo&Krill in this game
>>570634554NooOoOOOOo, there's gotta be hard set roles like support and tank and carry and jungler, and they should get assigned pre-game, and there's gotta be a draft and you better do it right, or you're trolling
>>570634837you're in seeker lole
>>570634837they're just improving, anon
>>570634838huh I never really thought about it but yeah he is.>healing nuke>auto attack damage disable/reduce>channeled ult that heals while damagingburrow isn't really like nightmare, but eh 3/4 is pretty close.
>>570632796>responds 3 hours laterAre lonley or something?
>>570634743>healing nova unstoppable calicoyou were basically handed a win on a silver platter
>>570632952>disgusting cheadmods
>>570634743>cheater font
>>570635429so they had one retard and I had four, therefore it was a free win?cope all you want I'm not the one stuck in shitlow. (that's an old match)
>>570635635newfag.
>enemy team has more gun carries>win early game>get rolled late game>repeat 3 games in a row
>>570635345no I went out and came back
Sex with Mo and Billy.
I was +20, now I'm only +2 and will probably go below 50% soon...
I still don't know how I feel about being able to dash parry without needing to do an air dash.
ALLMODSARECHEATS
>>570636548Based variety enjoyerOnetricks get the rope
>>570636632Parry this
>>570634534>drifter
>>570635647they had 6 retards though
So is Holliday worth queuing right now?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE STOP PUTTING DRIFTERS IN MY TEAM THIS CHARACTER IS USELESS I'M GONNA START AVOIDING IT JUST SO MY TEAM CANT PICK IT
Every game I slip further and further down cause I get one nigger on my team that has no idea how to play the game. Venator doesnt show up to urn fights and doesn't push walkers. Runs up mid after we lose urn fights and dies. Who are these mouth breathing, troglodyte retards...
>>570638342You're the person who loses each game. Every game is your fault.
>>570634962>>570635207kys now
>>570638437How do you win games when you give farm to the m1 nigger and he DOES NOTHING!
When do we be getting new champs?
>>5706387892 weeks
>>570638789>champs
>>570637964Hero bans? More like hero suggestions >Please put a first timer of this hero on my team>Please put a 100+ games onetrick of this character on the enemy team
>>570638630You don't win games by believing in the power of friendship and trusting in your m1gger to be good at the game, thats just a pleasant surprise. Your games will not improve until you believe every player in your game is the most retarded gorilla you've ever seen
>>570638630take the farm yourself and win the game retard
>>570638789>we
>800 games of Lash OTP>Every time I try a new character, go 0-12 and drop three ranksI should just kill myself at this point, right?
we need more supports
Doornigger is on my perma ban list.Double- No TRIPLE his ult cooldown you filthy nigger yoshi slut!
>>570639309I mean if you're really that bothered by it, just make a new account for practicing new chars.
>>570638630You don't put trust in the m1gger if he's bad, put your trust in someone else>>570638942>You don't win games by believing in the power of friendship and trusting in your m1gger to be good at the gameThis is only half trueThe key to climbing as a support is recognizing and understanding who to enableIf someone on your team is shit, stop helping them. Shift your eggs to the basket of the person who's actually going to win you the match. You don't need to follow games by rote and just support a m1gger, you know. Anyone can pop off, especially in the trenches where anything can happen for any reason. Shift your focus and enable whoever's likeliest to win you the game.
If you play doorman, YOU ARE BOOSTED
>decide to look up some Holliday gameplayhttps://youtu.be/8f16ciGbCfo?si=tAgtTIHESW6mPoUx>tranny mods>phantom lobby>calls himself a "pro" anywaysNot a good look
>>570639501I'm not that much. Learning new characters is just such a miserable experience. In 1100 hours I have learned maybe three characters in total.
i cant take it anymore i saw my teammate buy tankbuster and i started trolling and rescue beaming ppl and jump around in spawn kek
>>570639957>didn't spam slursngmi.
got my disgusting tasting coffee and im gonna queue up silver elo be damned
>lose game, everything feels like pulling teeth as you watch yourself bleed out>win a game, hollow emptinessSo this is what it means to be a moba player
sup chuddies, I have enough space to install games now, should I try deadlock? is it as good as dota used to be? I've seen a bit and it looks like it's getting more depth since the last time I tried like 1+ years ago
>>570640248for me when i win a game, i have to type ez, it's like it unlocks everything, i feel nothing if i don't type ez in all chat in the last 5 secs
>>570640410depends why you quit and what you're looking for.game is good.
>>570640609I quit because life got in the way and I started getting queue/performance anxiety in dota for god knows what reason, long ago, I should give it a try I'll probably go back to being regular again
>>570640609also, deadlock started to look good, I've seen some videos, teamfights remind me of dota over how chaotic they are but good players would still know exactly what to do to win which is a very icefrogish design
If you play Deadcock, you're boosted.
>>570639808>think tranny mods was hyperbole>literal tranny flag>average troon voicewhew
>>570639808>He thought a movement character would have a normal well adjusted playerbase, and not trannies
>>570639808>This guy can't even decide his own gender
>>570631423post your rank now so we can see the progress on your 65% wr run to eternus
>Get a 5 game winstreak yesterday>My first game of the day is the most obvious and coordinated 6stack ever while my team just flounders around like fish out of water>Enemy Bebop landing hooks from 100 feet away to uppercut you into a Warden cage into a Talon curse into a Talon ult>Talon is 22/0Shit makes ya want to pull ya teeth out
>>570641998You should be watching replays, every match is winnable you just need better decision making.
>>570641998that's the kind of match I run at their walkers and if I get them all before the game is over I an hero.
>>570642190lol. lmao.
New player here is surfing common? I have had like 3 people brag about smurfing in a row.
Tankbuster on viscous is OP
>>570643519It's a free game, the only requirement to play is that you have another account with access alrady.Yes. Smurfing is common. It's so common that even streamers do it after they get assraped in their Eternus lobby so they punchdown at Oracle/Phantom instead.It's cringe, ruins the game for everyone in that match the smurf is present.Also it's reportable, and Dota 2 had a massive ban wave that followed the smurfs back to their main accounts.These people are currently in the fuck around phase, and soon they'll be finding out. I wouldn't be surprised if people like Metro catch a perma ban on their main and they have to constantly account hop on various alts in the future.
>>570643519We need a surferbro hero who wears a Hawaiian shirt and summons a big wave as his ult and is best bros with ViscousSmurfing is very common, all it takes is spending $5 on some random indieslop and you can rape ritualists
>>570643519There are only 4 report options and one of them is just for smurfs, that alone should answer your question
I actually had fun playing Kelvin.I didn't know it was possible to have fun on this hero.
>>570644059this is gross. why would you post this?
>>570643857>I wouldn't be surprised if people like Metro catch a perma ban on their main and they have to constantly account hop on various alts in the future.Metro could have become this game's Tyler1 and gone out in a blaze of glory but unfortunately he had to be a pedo...
What is the counter play to yamato?
>>570644541Anything that silences
>>570643519Surfing is cool.Whenever i reach an elo where i cant play random champs anymore and try out shit because people punish me for it i create new account to have fun again.
>>570644059MINAAAAH HAAAA UOOOOOH.
I just played a regular game and I won a match! Surprisingly no one parried me, like I had more people parry me in street brawl
how does farming priority work in this game? it's just 6 apes fighting for farm or there are carry priority and they take the safest farm while the supports fight for the contested farm?
>>570645081>Abram's buildWhat the fuck is this
>>570645081>ballistic enhancement on billywhat
sex with geist
>>570645383it works on bashdown but it doesn't really make the AoE too much bigger. I'm guessing it's combo'd for chain gang since if you get a big ult you'll hit a bunch of people at once with one bashdown
>>570645558She needs more fan art
So what was changed about Holliday again? I thought there was something about her barrels not needing to be punched mid air to go where you're aiming but that's false
>it’s another episode of your dumb nigger holliday lasso’ing someone and then hopping around to drag them away from you for the whole duration
Tankbuster on spirit bomb spam Geist
I have one hero banned and when I see them I just abandon.I don't care, give me the penalty, I'm behind 100000 steam accounts.
>>570644059Vampires are cheating when you have a teeth fetish.
>it's another episode of nobody wants to do anything but farm the jungle until they lose
>>570645879They made it so you can place the barrel at your feet by alt-casting it.
>>570645343he's green
>>570608837Cube is extremely good and splatter does too much damage because they took all the damage off his 3 and 4 and put it into that, in actual coordinated play Viscous is top tier because of the cube and splatter doing so much damage means he can build almost entirely support items and still put out respectable damage.He's dogshit in matchmaking because cubing and rescue beaming the 3/10 Venator out of a gank has no impact on the game and 1 ability doing damage actually isn't enough to be able to play the game past minute 14. Nerf splatter, nerf cube again if you want, buff puddle punch and the ult. They gutted a fun hero because they over buffed his 3 for no reason and people cried and screamed about it.
>>570645942>bomb spam Geist
now that deadlock has failed miserably, can valve finally pull the plug and go back to developing dota 2 instead?
Delete affliction
can't wait to watch the episode on modern mba on why deadlock failed
Rem is too popular.I have him as my highest priority (all others are lowest) and I still only get to play him about 60% of the time
>>570608837REVERT WARDEN GUN NERFS NOW AAAIIIEEE LOOK AT HIS WINRATE IT'S LOW THAT MEANS HE NEEDS BUFFS AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>570648340>+1 second cooldown on barrageYou rike?
>>570645228if i lane with wraith or infernus i leave them camps and as a support i leave lane early and buy trophy so they can get fed.
>hidden king acts like a lash fan when you go on a streakhe really is that cool huh
Why would you play Mina instead of Bebop? Because she has I-frames and is slightly cuter?
>>570650090mina ult has silence and can be aimed instantly while bebop takes ages to turn the beam. bebop is also more of a sitting duck to literally everything while ulting, though an ulting mina is basically a free kill for gun holliday, talon or venator ult.bebop ult's power is still very understated when it comes to shit like early walker pushes. completely locks down the area and doesn't require any items to come online unlike seven ult
I fucking love deadlock bros. This game is so tight.
>Literally harass haze all game by waiting for her to ult jumping in her face and pressing riposte>She literally just cannot use ult because of meI love playing this stupid red twink but I hate him so much
I'm winning my lane but still getting stomped.I just don't know any more.
>>570614109Abrams needs buffs
To the teabagging yamato.Eat shit.You were absolute dogshit in the face of my goat cock.Fucking EZ!
>>570650090Bebop bombs can be nullified in a multitude of ways.good luck doing that against love bite
>>570651264>play victor>apollo just constantly cuckolds my ultsFuck off
>>570644059JESAS
>>570613042League sucks harderHeroes are so numerous that most of the roster are left to rot while a bunch of heroes run the game and every new hero is stacked to the brim with abilities and modifers and has the same kit as the last 10 heroes. The game is also full of bullshit like ranged heroes that run faster than any melee character even with boots of speed, every hero has a teleport, insanely OP nukes from mages/carrys.The only other MOBA worth playing I can think of is Dota 2 which takes the "if everything is overpowered nothing is" approach
>>570645081>Green AbramsFucking BASED
>>570645558>>570645708Pumping for Geist
graves and mina fags won BIGLY
>>570654892Careful Rem!
>>570654929But those characters just keep catching nerfs lately. When do I start winning?
the three pinnacles of human achievement in the last decade:>deadlock>fruit love island>the h1b visa
There's literally zero point in playing an assassin in this game with the objectives, movement and HP the way that they are. The objectives ensure that no one is ever alone, and the movement and gigaHP on every hero ensures that even if they are, they're only two seconds away from the fucking avengers showing up
>>570632952>anon's build guide>EARLY GAME: Arcane Surge, Kinetic Dash, Stamina Mastery
>>570654378and?you still rape him assuming you actually do your job and solo side lane
>>570633007>Current highest rank of deadlock will be considered a median skill in 2 yearsThis has been true for almost every game in beta, would be surprised if deadlock broke the pattern. The top 100 are probably gonna stay up there, though. E6 randoms will be lucky to be top 80% when more eyes enter the game.
>>570655456He's annoyingGo away>>570655323Only assassin that does assassinations now are curse hazes.
this is my favorite cheat
>>570655323The map needs to be bigger for assassins to actually work
>>570634837I won in a Seeker lobby (teaching friend how to play, I wasn't on a smurf) by telling some Mina to stop farming jungle and just farm the lane creeps. It took me a while to notice she was living in the jungle while creeps kept hitting our towers.That was just enough wave pressure to win us the game. Before that we were constantly getting pushed in and every fight I took led to a lost objective even if I won it.You're in Seeker, you sometimes just have to enlighten them. They're ignorant not malicious. You got a mic, no? And remember to be nice, don't say it in a passive aggressive manner.
>>570638630>give farm to the m1 niggerNot how this game works. Throw away everything you know from dota/league.
>>570639059>phantom>roamers and supports steal as much farm as possible>unfarmed and lose the gamewow amazing strategy
>>570656027oh yeah, then how does the game works?
>>570655620even curse isn't enoughyou also need focus lens to extend the silence
I can't stop playing with cheat mods bros...
>>570642190what am I supposed to do when two of my teammates are 2/15/3
Valve should add a chinese lady to deadlock!
>>570656184disturbing
>>570656304toggle headshot aimbot and 1v6
>>570656176I miss playing abrams as an assassin.
>>570656129Everyone needs as much farm as they can get.You especially can't hold a wave or wait for your m1gger to clear it after they're done jungling because wave priority is doubly important in this game, unlike dota/lol which doesn't have a zip line.It also helps that everyone can swing the game if they're farmed up given how it's not as late game focused as dota. There are like 8 ways to move the game forward and zero ways to stall it.Roamers / supports have the agency to take all the farm and end the game before any m1ggers become relevant.
>yamato feeds the enemy lane and dies ten times>allows the lane to fall because the rem in the lane isn't building healing >blames the rem for not running in to commit suicide to feed the enemy>ragequitsyamatosisters???? our response???
Do you troll toxic lane partners?>playing Paradox>lane partner Geist starts game with voice line about how she visited the Paradox museum and found it kitch and in bad taste>insta buy egg and let the fucker die in lane while I just stay behind and do boxes and shitFuck toxic lane partners
>>570657535>make space ten fucking times>tmates do nothing with itWhy would he not get mad?
>>570657750During lane phase with a Rem who is not building for healing? What the fuck did she expect him to do?
>>570657560yeah if my lane partner makes a single mistake i afk
Lane partner died before two minutes? I'm going afkLane partner lost 80% of his HP on a bad trade, refuses to go base or buy rite? I'm going afkWe lost a tower before 5 minutes? I'm going afkFirst urn goes uncontested for the enemy team? I'm going afkLane partner bought egg first item? I'm going afkEnemy laners killed me 3 times before 5 minutes? I'm going afk
life is so much better when you dont play this shit but watch streamers play it and complain all the time. schadenfreude feels so good
>>570658376@grok is this real
>light melee enemy hero>instantly parried>clearly using a parry bot>keeps hugging me for the next 10+ minutes trying to bait out another free stunthis community is aidson another note, i'm trying to learn Calico but like... what does she do
>>570657560If the player is actually toxic I tell them to be nice and calm down. If they don't chill, or even worse, give me lip, I'm throwing right then and there. It's like a well honed reflex at this point.It's like having a superpower when you don't care about the win as much as everyone else does. I make sure to let them know it was their toxicity that made me that way, it really drives them up the wall.
>>570658796How would a parry bot even work? Light melees are 0 frames. By the time your client receives the melee it's too late to parry.
>>570658376really cant wait for woodman
>>570657560If my lane partner actually talks on voice and says anything but announce when he's going in or backing off, I mute him until lane ends.
>billy walks up to enemy and heavy melees them>dies near instantly>BROOOOOOOOO HELP ME BRO HELP ME WHAT ARE YOU DOING BRO
why did holliday become the designated esports tranny hero? every time I'm matched with one I just know they're gonna be insufferable and constantly talk on the mic with their tranny nerd voice
>>570659605Billy players just can't stop feeding in lane...
Remember when this game used to get new heroes and remodels? I remember.
they need to add 12 new heroes peroid
Game needs an Indian hero who gets izzat instead of souls
>>570658376it's even better frame by frame
>>570659698movement = tranny shit
A team full of Phantom players got stomped by a team with Archons and Emissaries
>>570659992i agree, indians are bro tier and natural allies to whites
>>570660471kill yourself if ironic or unironic.
>>570660463Probably former phantom players who deranked but still have high hero MMR
what the fuck did they do to Kelvin's 4? it never fucking casts when you want it to now.
what hero am I?
>>570660463a team full of (random made up ranks) got stomped by a team with (random made up ranks)
>>570661114Billy
I TAKE YOUR LIFECONSUUM THEMSENDING BEETLE
>>570661114bebop
Ivy is done.So far the worst one stats wise, even worse than Silver.Kinda fun to play during lane phase but gun power falls off really fast
>>570661305I TAKE YOUR WIFE
>>570660914it's a targeted ability now so it's only instant if you aim at an enemy while pressing it. otherwise you selfcast it by holding down the ult key
FOR THE DJINNNNNNN
>>570661114Drifter
>start match>retard warden is doing no damage and feeding>lose match>queue again>HE'S ON MY TEAM AGAIN>lose again as he feeds and does no damage
>>570661685he showed no fear no matter the odds
>>570661685if you had retards feeding on your team always do a brawl match of wait some time before queueing again
>>570661893or wait*
>>570661174>>570661462>>570661513no>>570661309yes
won 85% of my games this night, good times
>>570661415yeah I see that but it never casts. must be a ping issue.
>>570662082I won 5 and lost 3, I was a hard carry in two of the losses according to tracklock so I wasn't my fault clearly
>>570662276yeah had a trolling rem aswell, dont count that either
how long does a deadlock match lasts on avg?
They should revert all Silver nerfs
>>570662082I went 6-1 this weekend and now I don't want to queue again because I know I have a nonstop rape train of elo assassins lined up for me.
>>570662428Just gotta grow stronger. I think if you reach high elo in quake champions you can 1v9 on haze or so
Who is your comfort pick? Character you pick when you don't feel like trying too hard or playing anyone else?For me it's the black man of many DoTs (Infernus).
>>570662386loved it when it was 20-30 minsnow its 35-48+
>>570662817Mo&Krill
>>570662817Victor. I just run in and everything dies
>>570662817Silver and Billy.Once they add Hoodwink it will be her.
>>570662386I settled around Archon/Oracle and it's around 40 minutes. The main problem seems to be people refusing to do midboss until the timers baloon out of control (20-30 mins), but there's plenty of opportunities for it before IF most of the team goes there. Problem is there will always be minimum 3 retards fucking off to the jungle after a won teamfight.
>>570662914Why did Icefrog add a Disney squirrel to DotA (Warfact aesthetics)?
bros is our game malware?
/roll
>>570663946Don't tell me what to do
>>570663537He knew what the people wanted.
>mm only gives you one carry hero and he’s absolutely dogshit and feeds first every teamfightwow fun match that invalidates the whole early game and lead
its over...
>went 0-11 on Abrams
>>570664315god the community around this game being a bunch of genshintards really ruins everythingwe never cared for or expected leaks in dota 2
What is the "relative skill rating" based on? Your last 10 games on the hero? I have like 60% winrate on a hero but I lose three in a row and suddenly I'm supposedly "low relative skill rating" on him
>>570662914We already have Rem though?
>>570664592Nobody knows and it would probably drive you insane to try to understand it. I have a 75ish percent winrate on Victor and it only has me at one up arrow. I don't even know if you can get two up arrows.
>shoulder charge heavy melee graves who's even in souls>Heroic aura skulls do 3k damage by the time the stun is overCan we gut this retarded character please?>Dur duuuur it's a moba summoner character duuur durrThe reason deadlock is fun is because it's different from most mobas, get this braindead shit out of here
>>570665021This guy isn't even trolling or ragebaiting. This is how retarded Graves complainers are.
>Silver WR after 25 minutes
>>570664761>I don't even know if you can get two up arrows.it exists but the anecdotes ive heard point toward you requiring something like a 12 win streak for it to happen
You ever just abandon a game because you rolled archmother?I just did. Fuck that lower than 50% winrate
>>570666364No, I wuv my mommy
>Medic Troopers now only start to spawn at 5 minutes, together with Melee troopersI just fixed deadlock
>>570666586What is a medic trooper. T. only play streetbrawl
June 13th patch: >Made Seven's hat 40% larger
>>570666364>>570666465I think it's time for a Deadlock break. I'll wait another few months. Game is stale and matchmaking is still trash.I say matchmaking but I know it's just how MOBAs work. Either way it isn't fun to see a loss at 15 mins, know you can do nothing, and waste another 15-30 mins of your life. abandoning is for chads. waiting and losing is for cucks. This is fact, this is yoshi approved, even God thinks so
>>570666832ive won matches with all lanes lost so many times its not even funny. i guess thats just the difference between your average shitlow phantom-ascendant dogwater players and eternus. keep abandoning and never improve
>>570666832I don't think its the actual matchmaking most of the time, but rather that you have constant smurfs, cheaters and griefers with level 1 accounts fucking up matches.I just reached ascendant and half the time you get smurfs since the smurf detection sends them all up here.
>>570666832Just play streetbrawl. I tried regular mode like 4 games and they looked like this>Me as a fresh noob, no clue how to even buy items, WIN (couldnt lose no matter what)>Me still retarded (win, couldnt los no matter what>Me still retarded (lose, couldnt win even if i was god himself because enemy got so fed on other lane that he could farm 1 tap pointclick me)>Move over to streetbrawl>What i do suddenly matters in the gameItem RNG aside, streetbrawl feels like randomshit than regular mode.Maybe it gets better if you actually play normal enough to get a higher MMR and actual humans, but i doubt it actually.
>>570667008The boxes and statue buffs are enough RNG to write deadlock off entirely.Streetbrawl is even worse.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>570667119Imagine making a competitive game with actual fucking RNG. Basketball doesn't do this, football doesn't do this, football(soccer) doesn't do this, not a single professional sport does this.In fact they acknowledge RNG is bad and have stuff like rain delays because they know it fucks with the fucking balance.icefrog has to be the most retarded genius autist faggot ever spawned.
>your hero of choise, the one you have fun with isn't in the meta and is c tier or worseokay I won't play, it's fine. Eventually your multibillion dollar company with the world's greatest game designers will figure out what balance is.
>>570663946Got carried but heyLane sucked, I don't really understand order of abilities. Do I just send cloak away before going close to enemies and satchel them, then tp away?
>shjits in your lane>there's nothing you can do aboutWhat now fuckwad? Your next 40 minutes are mine. Are you going to abandon? no cause deadlock is all you have and the penalty will ruin youyou're addicted
Why are m1ggers allowed to just turn off spirit heroes with Silencer (TWO passives that turn you off), where is the spirit item variant?
>>570665580more like 10 minutes lmao
>>570667380stfu
>>570667380You basically play like a rat yeah, use your cloak to play like a madman and escape afterwards.
>>570667225>>570667119boxes and statue buffs are inconsequential enough to not matter at all. also more or less if you get enough boxes and statues the number of souls and buffs converge to the expected value of both respectively. you cant actually make a meaningful difference with just the rng
>>570667471
>>570667407Once upon a time a balanced game was created, it was called RaiderZ. It had the most balanced PvP ever crafted every class had escape skills to get out of stunlocks, every class had damage evern healers, every class had cc, every class was capable of filling every roll.But is died because the developers of GunZ thought GunZ 2 was a good idea and it flopped and the company died.RaiderZ even had a MOBA mode. Damn we missed out on actual balance.
>>570667119>>570667225>>570667535>boxes and statue buffs are inconsequential enough to not matter at all.oh shouldve specified i mean that the rng of boxes and statue buffs are inconsequential enough to not matter>>570667574holy shit raiderz mentioned? did you try out beastmode raiderz private server a couple of years ago?
>>570667535That victor just hit a +25 hp statue and got away with 10 hp!!!!!That viscous just cubed again giving his team enough time to get over here.Blast if he didn't get that 1.5% cool down reduction we could have cc'd himetcetcRNG is never good. You can try to pass it off as inconsequential but anyone with a brain will tell you otherwise.
>carries are always the most boosted trash as their braindead heroes are strong at all points of the game and are always overtuned >out of the top 5 winrate heroes in any given patch 3 are always carries>silver shits on carries>???hmm
>>570667643>did you try out beastmode raiderz private server a couple of years ago?I know more about RaiderZ than any human on this planet. I've tried to buy the IP if that tells you were I'm at in life.Masangsoft would not sell even if they are not using the IP. I offered 10k a low ball but still.
>>570667749As proof this is me. If you know this image you're a true OG
>>570667749now im very curious. weve probably met in game. can you give me some hint toward your identity?
>>570667880i dont know that image... i was probably too young in the earlier days of raiderz and my english wasnt developed enough to actually be a part of the community until much later
>>570667539https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWsUbOsJqRc
>>570668012I was part of the community since, well almost when the game got announced for English. I ran fansites, I was doing datamining, I was doing quite a bit during the official release era. Either way it's nice to see RaiderZ enjoyers in the wild.I only picked up Deadlock because someone had mentioned it was like GunZ. It's not as good, but I still like it.
>>570667225I mean it could be worse, in hearthstone a guy got cheated out of a worldchampion title on a game he had 100% because of yogg saron (when summoned cast random spells with random targets based on how much spells you already played) and the guy hit like casino jackpot with it
>>570667731>Carries are strong at every stage of the game>Silver is only good early game and falls apart in the late game>Somehow silver is more problematic Every carry is S+ tier bullshit ignoring maybe mirage
>>570607625ABL please update your Haze build blyat...
>>570668171sorry im too curious still. can you send me a dm on dc if you use that @oulero
>>570668331why did he apologize anyway, what does it matter if he hurt the feelings of zogmerican golems who worship blacks? hes russian
>>570668331Speaking of ABL its crazy he got singled out when all these pro players are toxic as fuck ingameThis is one of LKW members having a meltdown a weekish agoYou cannot tell me with a straight face that the other players aren't saying equally edgy shit
>>570668356I replayed the game with /vm/ a bit ago. I used the same IGN as official servers. It's visible in this screenie.
>>570668585thats barely toxic for deadcock standards
>>570668250Just because something is worse a bad thing does not become good.
>>570668585They know not to say the nigger word because it makes Americans melt down, ABL was too retarded or unaware of American "culture" to not say it. You can be as much of a faggot you want outside of that so long as you avoid using two or three specific words.
>>570668914I don't know what this game is but it is funny to see rendering techniques that are a decade+ old still outdoing the fidelity that Deadlock today has. I know it will be fixed before launch but still.
>>570668997Yeah true. Im just saying it could be worse, no?What do you expect out of a hero shooter way other than modern gamedesign.Quake champions still doesnt have RNG
>>570668585To be for really with you there are many players, in fact I'd imagine most players, that are one tricks. When their meta eventually rolls out they shine, when down in the dumps they do not. Few people master 2 heroes, even fewer 3.
Is this fucking fair matchmaking? They have 3.5 fat fucking frontliners and we got none
>>570669883neither team has 0 frontliners. which frontliners are you referring to
>>570669883Unironically post this in the forum, the game should give you at least one frontliner character per team. You can't even salvage this lineup since none of them have a viable tanky build.
>>570669998Venator, Bebop and Appolo are fat fucksAnd half of Silver
MY ARROW WILL STRIKE TRUE
>>570669883free game no bitching
>>570669883My wife Silver CLEARS your retarded ass
>>570669883Umm Pocket is a frontliner :)
>>570668275Guess who complained about Silver?
>>570670403Yeah with -15 spirit res. Why the fuck he has negative spirit res btw
I really hope we don't get a draft and that there will be an algorithm deciding team comps, honestly hate the idea of being forced to not play who I wanna play because "we already have a support" (I'll still play Paige) and, when the player base skill catches up, I don't want to get hard countered in every match either. Honestly I feel like we'll all come to miss these days of very varied playstyles, lanes and builds, because most of the playerbase seems to want the meta to ossify rather than stay fluid.
>>570671686Not to mention the 5-10 minutes extra on top of each match used on draft
>>570669883Are you telling me Overwatch GOATS meta is making a return?Crazy how as a genre we keep identifying that tanks > all
>>570670430tannoids and gays aka bury-ables
>>570671686It wouldn't be perfect but at least you'd have some agency unfucking your team's draft by picking frontliner or carry when your team has none.
>>570671951>identifying that tanks > allisnt this genny constantly complaining how carries > all
>>570671496cause he's a sickly little mongrelbred carrying around a suitcase of evil frogs
>>570672437No because tanks are better carries than carries.Carries = damageTanks = damage + defenseAs a side noteSupport = homos(gay)
Literally every single m1gger hero is overpowered.
>>570672543oh yeah you rightfrog niggy haha
>>570611423Defending the same retards that say that Silver is giga omega busted super broken (50%ish winrate) and barely say a thing about Graves that has high winrate at literally every skill level in the game, even "pro" matches
niggers
>>570673898OH GOD... ITS HAPPENING AGAIN!!!!>Transform>Instantly die
>>570674365a-awooo..... >*sobs*>*cries* >*coughs up blood*>*drinks until liver failure*>*dies*
>>570674365>>570674645she's still S++ tier though in e7
what if silver had to sell her body to make rent
is dispel magic a meme on shiv? since you can only dispel their slowing hex/silence wave once. all 6 of them will buy it anyway so you can better invest in debuff resist rather than cleanse
>>570673293Silver is actually very easy to counter but carrytrannies are too retarded to
>>570674746She's too proud to, she would never
Why the fuck did they buff calico? She was already broken.
>>570676409>We love our nubian queens, don't we folks?
>>570676409>they buffed f tier hero to d tierREEEEEE ONLY GUNSLOP CHARACTERS ARE ALLOWED TO BE TOP TIER
I tried, man.
>>570676917Ivy is OP
Holliday stomp is now the easiest commonly spammed ability to counterspell, FYI.
>>570673010>Support = homos(gay)even Rem, bro?
>>570676409>Posts from 2025Listen nigga you don't know what this means yet but BUY SANDISK
Where are the Sinclair nerfs?
>>57067719244% winrate hero, wdym? )))
Peak Shiv, slowing hex and curse both last only 1.05 seconds so you can actually play the game
>>570677821>64k soul buildI would hope its peak shiv
>>570678042you can pretend ee, t.cooldown and tempo are just their components
>>570677192abysmal retards playing him keep him safe from being nerfed
today i played against a guy that got beaten up, then activated aimbot etc. and lost eitherway...must suck to be this guy
>>570678814ttk is so long even with aimbot if you're out of position you get chainstunned and raped
>>570678851Yeah cheats in this game don't matter *that* much, beyond maybe auto parriesIf some m1 nigger is cheating you just wait him for to go out of position (easy since if he's cheating then he doesn't understand the game) and rape him with disarming hex or metal skin.
>>570678851Its still pretty rough. In VTM bloodhunt the hackers usually had such an awfull peripheral vision that you could always ambush them somehowTheres like a reason they have to cheat Its not because they know how to play
B-Bros?
Nice matchmaking valve.
>>570677821Congrats, you begin to be a character 35 minutes in.
>>570679774dey can try to fite back and it probably will matta
>game gets worse after each patch since march
Guys, has anyone seen Silver anywhere?I haven't seen her in a few days... I'm starting to get worried for her.Anyone seen her in any matches or anything? Is she okay? Her phone's not picking up...
>>570680203It's so that when the update drops in September it's such a big improvement everyone will go "THEY FUCKING COOKED" and we enter the Golden Age of Deadlock before they ruin everything with open beta early 2027.
>use bashdown on enemy>enemy is on stairs>they don't get hitOH WOW ANOTHER BUG ON BILLY WHO WOULDVE THOUGHT
>initiating on Haze>slowing hex, curse, ult on>viscous cubes mefaggot
>>570680285I saw her at latenight streetbrawl being the best player of the lobby. Really incredible skills.She was useless lol
How do i play with my friends without ruining the matchmaking? I am Eternus 6 and 4 of them are phantom one of them is oracle whenever i join it feels like beating kids we also usually wait a long time to find a match as well it seems like mm can't find a opponent similiar to my level
>>570672437They are>>570673010>>570671951Why was goats meta? Because that game's win condition revolves around standing on a point. This games win condition is seiging, so it follows that great seigers are the meta. The koth urn did buff the tank impact and they also set the tempo for teamfights, but at the end of the day you can just not shoot them and dispell their one cc
>>570680570Thats every source game since forever, you have to be same step or above the enemy otherwise micro ledges will absorb your aoeIt's better like this trust, because otherwise it would go through everything
>>570681392Play support or meme builds
Is Deadlock glaze justified?
how do you play vyper against gt holliday and kelvin
how do you play x against x x and x
>>570680285I saw one diving at me (Mo with ult up) under guardian like a retard.
>>570671686no i need draft because i like playing sinclair.
>>570661339this is by far ur worst take yet. god knows what you were building. her gun is the best gun in deadlock late game lmao
>>570681931phantom strike>>570681993magic carpet
>>570681895The conditions for the perfect storm are there>first Valve game in ages (Alyx and CS2 don't count)>ecelebs flock onto it like flies to shit because they know that if they were the first content creators on the game and it blows up they will have secured a gravy train for years>the fact that the game leaked spectacularly didn't help>the major changes that are expected from a game in dev are hyped up like crazy because people are nolifing a game with tons of WIP or experimental shitOn the other hand there's also a good chunk of people that won't understand what the game is about on release because for some reason the first instinct of many people watching the game is "it's a hero shooter with MOBA elements" and not "it's a MOBA with guns and movement" so you get people asking "uh why does it take forever to kill someone at minute 1?"
>>570683471God shiv x vindicta is so hot imagine the hate sex they would have with each other
>>570645383>>570645653it was really good on bashdown before getting nerfed 4-5 patches in a row
>>570683075>+0.08Yeah right
Buckle up, he's about to say something stupid like 'mercurial magnum' or 'siphon bullets'
>>570684640she is the only hero in the game that can actually use capacitor. that stat on ur little reddit site is irrelevant
>>570685383Yeah but then you are not building gun aren't you if you want to scale capacitor damage you have to go spirit no? Show any decent working build around capacitor?
Anyone KDA farming on frontliners should be shot and killedI expect AT LEAST 10 deaths from you per game because you're meant to make space and soak up enemy abilities >>570680570Bashdown is one of the buggiest abilities in the game, half the time it will just flip outYoshi help my goat man out he keeps getting bullied by fliers when he should be their counter.
>>570685820Nta but no, for scaling capacitor you want attack speed
What the fuck is a frontliner?
>get rusnigs on team>they cheat>lose anyway because they are retarded rusnigsRegion lock when?
>>570686884Hes propably refering to something like victor or abrams who can go in and suck up bullets and abiliys for him to play the game
>>570686884tanky characters who are incentivized to initiate and soak up damage and CC for their team like Abrams, Victor, and Billy
>>570687236>>570687447So just a tank then?
>>570687648You can't say that word. That's the MMO word. That's a bad word.
>>570686884They stand in front of your team
>>570687648yeah they're interchangeable terms, it refers to the same concept
>>570687648Yeah but since they have so much CC and damage people prefer using a different term, brawler was used for a little while as well.
>>570645081Brool has no matchmaking so you find people that actually know how to parry and use actives there
>>570646714The 'people' who whined about Puddle Punch being good are mostly movement trannies, because a good Viscous player basically negated all their movement bullshit with well-aimed punches.
>>570685820For capacitor you want to build attack speed until you hit the cap0.20s internal cd20% proc chanceUsing those you can calculate the cap to be 25 bullets per secondIvy base is 13.6 bullets per second13.6+(13.6×0.8)=24.48 bullets persecondSo you need ~80% attack speed to hit the cap(golden statues will give a little). Capacitor gives 5% itself so really you only need 75% which is 2 or 3 items depending your preference.After cap you want to pivot into something else, I like the spirit debuffs because capacitor will proc them(suppressor/brs/mystic vuln/etc.) But you could go a lot of directions, weapon damage/flat spirit/support stuff, id evaluate the game state
>>570688436Viscous is a movement hero
>>570623238Yeah and it made the game horrible over time. Just like Deadlock since the Old Gods update.
I'd like to see this kind of survey done in the circles of the /v/ threads and this general. I have a feeling the results would be somewhat different
>>570687648If we are being pedantic frontliner includes both tanks and off tanks(brawlers or w/e)Its just a positional reference
>>570688626They are, but an actually fun one, not one that needs to know all the stupid corner boosting/edge boosting bullshit to be able to move well.>>570677821Shiv players don't deserve to play.
How are you supposed to counter Mirage? He buys Inhibitor every time, reduces your damage by 65% on top of his resistance, and there's no counterplay to it. You can dispel but he'll just hit you again, you can dispel and curse him but he'll still out-sustain.
>play support>build support>8 losses in a row every game top damage on my teami'm going back to abusing shiv fuck this game man
>>570688950Yeah unless you're in a stack you have no agency in games as a support. Unless you're Rem because you can mash 2 and heal your entire team to full.
>>570688687>arrived in 2024I doubt that
>>570688893Hes one of the hardest scaling heros in the game so end early? If in shitlow you can just call for mid boss early and often, win or lose the game ends fasterHis winrate spikes after rico+inhibitor, his tornado lift is not a stun so you can usually punish him while lifted with an ability or headshot
>call out mina for feeding on the easiest hero in the entire game>ERM WHO HURT YOU SWEETIE LOLThis people deserve to be treated like cattle
>>570688893there is no counter, the only reason his winrate ins't 80% is because he is fucking boring and no one plays him
>>570691825Erm she makes my cock rock hard so she's actually difficult okay???you try playing deadlock with a boner and see what happens
>>570691825Sounds like a region problem. On EU servers there's no pretense of passivity. >doorman feeds>"DOOR MAN YOU ARE BOT">"Stupid retard bitch blyat"Life goes on
fact:mina being overpowered is good for the game.
>>570692952I've been enjoying playing Celeste recently but I'm starting to come to the realization that Mina does basically the same thing but better
>>570688579>>570686865>attack speedLARP LARP LARP LARP LARP
>>570688687>9% femaleFOR SURE BRO!!! IVE ONLY SEEN LIKE TWO FEMALES PLAY DEADLOCK
>>570681619Urns are standing on a point, defending walkers, mid boss, even the base siege.There is almost no difference to these objectives other than they do not move.You still defend them, as you progress through checkpoints or down lane your spawn gets further just like overwatch and the enemy gets closer just like overwatch
>play billy >enemy whiffs parry >beat him to death >he starts crying in al chat about "miss parry die so fair"Holy fuck carrytrannies lack all self awareness don't they useless fucking boosted subhumans
>>570693290In my 500 games I've only played with a single, actual female and she was a dynamo main>>570693860Now THAT'S funny since you can just buy a 800 item and make the risk/reward on melee unviable.
>>570693290I've gotten a fair number of real biological females in my matches, and I can tell that they're actual females because they fucking suck at the game and do nothing but feed
>>570693959You know, you just made me think about it. I've only ever heard one woman's voice as well over about 750 games, and I can't remember exactly what hero she was playing. It definitely wasn't support though I remember because I was on supp Ivy lol. I think it might have been Wraith
>risk:>die>reward:>deal like a third of the damage a m1gger would've done in the same timeframe without riskingFair
>>570693290>>570693959>>570694142I've seen significantly more (1200 games), on non-support roles as well. Just don't sperg out, carry in lane and ping them good job sometimes, and they may feel comfortable enough to talk a bit.
>>570688687>9.3%>5.4%>2.2%i unironically believe iti've banged 2 trannies i met in pubs
>>570694260Thanks for your input, AbramsbroKeep fighting the good fight
>>570688687The irony is that the nonbinaries are more likely to be female than the "females"
why is there no inhibitor + silencer for spirit heroes, why are m1ggers allowed to make me do 70% less damage
>>570695034Same reason there are no good spirit resist items
>>570695034silence wave? disarming hex? focus lens?
>>570695034you get uhhh disarming hex and uhhhh metal skin so uhhhhh idk
>>570695215Good one
>>570683471>>ecelebs flock onto it like flies to shit because they know that if they were the first content creators on the game and it blows up they will have secured a gravy train for yearsI really think this has been the most damaging to the game overall. Hordes of ecelebs pestering the devs and hordes of their followers repeating their opinions like mouthpieces. I remember the furfaggot with the Venator OC making a video titled something like "This is the wrong direction for Deadlock" ~4 months ago as if this dumbfuck had a wiretap in Valve's office.
>>570695348>watching furfags
there is a dog in her
>>570695651>her
>>570692651Could've been a game with brits or americans, those are incredibly passive aggressive and indirect
>>570693959I love how people keep complaining about having to buy Knockdown and Slowing Hex to counter because of their cost meanwhile Rebbutal is literally a starter 800 souls item and can completely cuck Billy throughout the whole game
>>570695840>brits and americans are the sameMaybe in your headcanon. The only passives on EU servers are Frenchoids.
>>570695784yes, herbecause only woman would sell 1 SFW pic for $10
>Wins nearly every lane>Mid game shot to death in an alley>Late game that was already not great is an auto lossWhat does she even do?Am I supposed to just rush down to their fucking base guardians in lane?
>>570695651I'm not saying you just know, but you just know.
>>570696136pretty much
>>570695651one simply intuits
>>570693367There is a big difference between stalling on a point and racing to dps an objective. You dont have to kill the 8k hp mo in this game, in ow you would
>>570695642It was the YT algo I swear.
>>570696121Ring of repick
Silver should have an innate +20/+20 resist on her ult on top of the 20/20 from the t1 upgrade. Also the maxed ult should heal on kill.That would almost make her a 50% winrate hero.
>>570696121Silver is a character that is really strong early/mid with her strong natural damageYou give your team an early lead and pray the carries take advantage of your kills The whole point of Silver is to make it possible to finish game earlier by applying constant pressure to the enemy carries
>>570696556Huh it's almost she was balanced around that by having a short cd ult.
>>570695651>>570696289>massive ass, modest chest and lovely stringy hairShe's perfect for the character, I'll give her that
>100 times more disruptive and annoying than doorman>will never get nerfed because the devs forgot about him(/her)
>>57069310780% attack speed translates to 80% to 80% more procs translates to 80% more dps until the capYou would need 181 spirit to increase the proc damage by 80%(43x.08=34.4)(34.4x[100×0.19]=181.05)Needless to say 80% attack speed is cheaper than 181 spiritI accept your concession
>>570696803Her human kit is ridiculously strong, provided you can hit your abilities The wolf ult CD nerf is justified
>>570697079>Her human kit is ridiculously strong, provided you can hit your abilitiesLMAO upplaying silvertrannies still at it hard I see
>>570696934No, anon, he's making fun of you for saying attack speed instead of fire rate, probably because he thinks being a dotafag as well is bad or something
I hardly see doorman in my matches. Granted im in shitlow but he seems pretty decent if you build for bell and harass/debuff all game. Not to mention completely removing someone from urn fights long enough to gank the others. Is he common in higher ranks?
>>570658796Well, calico is interesting.Best i could put it is:Calico is basically a roaming, boxrunning, sinners stealing, pseudo-tanky, escape artist, frontliner, skirmisher, support, lane cleaner, ninja pusher, counter-jungler, assasin with a strong laneWhat i mean by assasin is that your able to easily dip into enemies jungle to pick off low players. Your 1v1 is good, but you always wanna pick fights you can win.What i mean by boxrunning, you want to prioritise running boxes in sewers especially if your teams box macro is on point to accomodate the soul/min on your team, but also to steal enemies boxes and especially their sinnersEssentially learning sewers like back of your hands is most important, and get good with catYou have to be quick to adjust your playstyle, if enemies are good at parrying then killing anything becomes exponentially harder as calico, adjust and adapt.I want to emphasize importance of stealing enemies boxes, statues and sinners, tunnels are immense help for this and your macro doesnt even have to auffer because tunnels have boxes in them and here we come to the escape artist part, good calico will always find a path of escape from any situation, your slash and ultimate are ofc biggest tools for this but managing to ava into tunnel is what you need to do instinctively.And finally these tunnels and great escape artist mobilities make calico an excellent lane cleaner and ninja pusher. Grenades do ALOT of damage to objectives and her lane clear is also decent.
>>570697227dotafags would have made reference to maelstrom/mjolnir, that anon is a le*gue player
>>570695651god I wish I was her
>>570697082>sagging breasts oh god...
>>570658796Calico kills people, and only kills people. Some retards like >>570697469 will say she does other things but aside from murder and stealing sinners she's abysmal. Can't shove, can't farm camps, can't take walkers. The thing she is good at is running up to you at mach fuck, doing a full combo of bombs into slash into ult, and then either killing you or failing to kill you. Either way she's leaving.
>>570697082she looks like a grotesque melting blob
>>570697151???im saying she has a strong early and mid game, im not upplaying or downplaying its impossible to have any discussion about this character here because you faggots have to make everything into buzzwords
>>570697780yeah, she is 30 years old, we can see it
>>570697507askshully im from hots/paladins
>>570697294>apollo's chest is almost bigger than mina'sFINAL kek
Geist's melee should lifesteal
>pause game>"???"Um, I paused the game to do some shit? The fuck are you confused about
>>570698168hope you paused it to kill yourself
Turn that werewolf into a rug.
>>570697837The only thing good about her human kit is that you can enter wolf form after using it
whoever made the targeting system in this game deserves million years of cock and ball torture
>>570655913Dude I'm trying.I keep getting teamates that keep pushing walkers alone 12 minutes in which would be inconsequential if they were split pushing.even if they're not a carry hero, assuming non-support, I'll tell them just to clear waves and nab the camps while the troopers do most of the work.I try not to over explain it but they just don't listen!Either I get no response or change in pattern indicating they have me muted or they get toxic and tell me to shut my gab.No matter how shit they are, they think they know better and end up dying and behind!I find the only way to get a shot at winning is if I take matters into my own hands, queue as a carry and do it myself.They're soloing a walker when they're not ready? I do what I can to split push or at least distract.Thankfully we're in low enough elo that I get gank responses making it easier to waste my opponent's time but more often than not, my nooby teamate just doesn't last long.Don't even get me started on the retards that scream at me for not being at first urn instead of using it as an opportunity to grab a walker or defend ours.You just know these idiots watched one outdated video about urn and thought they were the most enlightened one in the lobby.
>>570698314>lines no one has heard since the patch
Genuinely hate retards who try to give "advice" (really just veiled complaining) to others mid-game when it's obvious as we are getting raped that the skill disparity is monstrous and it's a classic matchmaking issue
>>570698429i cant tell if this is bait or not
>>570698481>GET DOWN MR. TALON
If your team's Abrams is dying a lot it's generally 90% not his fault and it means you failed to support him Hope this helped
is buying 4800 worth of gun items(or more) on talon when not playing full gun talon a scam? every time I see this shit they end up doing no proper damage either way, and then when you look at post-game stats he does most of his dmg in spirit anyway
>>570699042No its not a scam
no wonder Geist is such an underperformer, half the top builds are bomb builds.
I just checked out statlocker and I'm actually surprised by how many obscurus players there are in my games.
>>570698821Try 1v1ing any hero without ult ready.Try 1v1ing someone that stacks bullet resist or us smart enough to use metal skin at the start of your combo.Oohhh but she's good in lane just like every m1gger except they scale into the lategame instead of falling off like a brick.
>>570699310??? she still rapes people
>>570696923Why did they make it nearly impossible to miss with his Q?
>>570699407Maybe if they're retarded. Human form Silver is only scary because of her ult, without it she's the least threatening hero in the game.
>>570699819yeah sure
>>570699819bola is literally her best ability retard
>OOOOOHHHHH IM GOING TO SPLAT>USE ANY OF MY OTHER ABILITIES THAT WOULD EASILY WIN THE TEAM FIGHT?>NOOOOOOO I MUST SPLAT SPAM
>>570688893Hope that the person playing him falls asleep because he's so fucking boring to play.He's a miserable design for both the player and the people he is playing against, a problem that many Deadlock characters have.
>>570699921>>570699967Keep upplaying Silver you retarded trannies
>>570688893Get leech (which is the best item in the game and you should be getting on every character)
>>570693959>>570694142>>570694397The only one I've run into in my like 200 games was fawning over the Rem I was playing while herself playing a carry
Heros that deserve nerfs more than silver>wraith>yamato>mirage>calico>Grey talon
>leechMetro says leech is ass btw
radiant regen is just straight up better than leech unless you are wraith, geist or nigfernus
>>570699284>swolebenjiguy is a genuine grifting faggot retard that nobody likes but the deadlock community doesnt know about him yet so he has a couple months of fame to leech off of them
>>570701213I don't know who this guy is either.
>>570701213don't worry, nobody watches his videos. I learned about him during classic wow. I see he crashed out really hard while playing albion.also,>Deadlock - Why Auto Report Punishments Need To Be NERFED
>>570701153RR is probably the most Geist core item what do you mean? Leech on Geist is honestly overkill most of the time because she heals so much anyways that if you're dying it's not because you're not healing enough
>>570699284It's not only that they're bomb builds, it's that they're also bomb builds without annotations. It's the same way that there's one Haze build really popular at low MMR where people queue it and it fills their slots with Extra Health, Extra Regen, Extra Stamina, and then 25 minutes in their slots are full and they don't have Slowing Hex or Curse to make their ult actually do something.
>>570699819I don't know.I'm starting to see spirit builds pop up that make use of her bola and rapid fire for insane burst damage.Theres even videos online of her evaporating Vyper at 20k in simply because she landed all her shots
>>570701213The guy is a mega giga faggot and used to spam shill his stuff in this general. He's ass at the game and made the worst builds on Earth
>>570702001he's terrible at every game he plays.
>>570701683>his channel is so dead he has to resort to making low quality AI slop videos
>>570701835RR is worse than Leech because it doesn't provide spirit (outside of investment) and the CD/duration isn't as good as Surge of Power. It's okay on lane if you really need it, but it's getting sold the second you run out of slots.
>>570702001>He's ass at the game and made the worst builds on Earthhe's a top 10 player, what do you mean?
>>570696749need this with silver>TIME TO LET OUT THE BEASTS
>>570696749we all know paige doesnt wear a bra because she thinks they're lewd.She's not caught up on norms
>>570702191Lots of people using AI for thumbnails nowadays, but some slop channels take it a step further with AI scripts too.
>>570702191your art sucks if you're worried about AI. nobody else cares.
>>570702806Literally this
remember when people thought vyper was bad
Why would I ever play standard when street brawl is literally free wins?
>>570702806Not even what he said, jeetoid.
A lot of times I like getting QSR/Merc Mag + Mystic Slow on Gun Ginnis. Is there potentially any better option to replace Mystic Slow? I feel like maybe Arcane Surge just for the stamina on one of the slowest characters
>>570703146>paige and lash in street brawl
>>570703242why would want to get rid of mystic slow? the item is extremely busted especially on ginnis
>>570703146games are for fun, if you find street brool more fun you should play it more.
>>570700702>tfw no deadlock girls to carry me while I play her pocket supportwhy even live...
>>570703254You won't believe me, but I actually play with random heroes, I just got incredibly lucky / unlucky with those two that many times in a row
>>570702992There is this delusion that the current top players have solved everything, but truthfully the community as a whole is improving and very very far from optimal. Its the same in every game, if you compare old cs to new cs the old footage looks like middle ranks, even tho they were the 1% at the time
>>570703146>paige and lash streetbrool tard
>>570703242why wouldn't you get BRS?
>Rapes you in lane>Forces you to back for walker and then teleports across the map to urn>Never falls offHow is this man not receiving more hate
does phantom strike triggers indomitable?
>>570703729I never see him in my games anymore since urnlock started
>>570703729not enough dotards, so people don't understand why furion is strong.
>>570703405Just wanting to confirm if it is in fact, the best option out of the rest>>570703658Merc Mag is an absolute must and Mystic slow is still incredibly strong regardless. There haven't been a ton of cases where the shred was insanely helpful
>>570702806good morning sir please do the needful and of upvote my indian hero idea on forum ok?
I hate the new holliday>laning is even worse than before>doesn't even spike with 4.8k spirit and rapid recharge>useless until T3 barrels>T3 barrels are overpowered and if you're not dumping into spirit you are trolling>I keep missing my barrels because they go too far and fast t. 350 matches onetrick before buff
>>570704463>one tricking
>>570704873Based variety enjoyerI have green arrows on half a dozen characters
'lero you suck so hard how are you E5, spammed victor for 1.4k hours?
>>570696749i like this new trendits cute
>>570607227Is gun Celeste just a psyop?No matter what I can't carry with Light Eater focused builds and find more carry potential going full spirit.
>>570705045paizuri
>Holiday player literally soaks farm all game>Is in the enemy base while their in ours with all of our lanes pushed into our base>Obviously he literally cannot do anything because base protection>He realizes he can't do anything so he walks all the way back>Dies before he even reaches base>80 second respawn >We win because rest of team finally caught up in souls to holiday>Tell him he's a retard and to suck my dick>WELL ACTUALLY MY K/D IS BETTER THAN YOURS SO YOU ARE LE STUPIDI'm so tired of these retards
>>570703729one of my recent matches we had a Mirage who did nothing but PvE the whole game>wave gets too close to our walker>he TPs in and catches it>enemy team tries to run urn>he TPs to another lane and takes their walkerthe guy had the most souls and objective damage, but went 1/0 and we still lost so uhmrat Mirage sounds interesting to say the least
>>570705326i also had a mirage who did this but the enemy team had a bebop and sinclair so we could 5v6
>>570704463I need to experiment with different build paths on holidayPre patch, there was basically only one path since you wanted to get rapid recharge around the same time as t2 barrelsNow you need to get rapid recharge for t3 barrels, so maybe there's more time for more greens and maybe orangesI've been more passive in lane, getting trophy collector early, and doing quick ganks on cooldown with ult. Not killing my own Lane's tower until t3 barrels + rapid recharge
>>570700037Blame le pros for getting everything else about his kit gutted
>>570705093why would you go full gun? just get opening rounds/spellslinger
>build bomb geist but with all on-hit effect purples>winit's really that easy
>get a spirit silver on team>deals the least amount of damage on the teamWhat a surprise
>>570705093celeste in general is shit rn
>>570706104shoulda went lightning scroll
A pox upon Mo niggers
>>570706130Good.
i just go afk now if i have a shiv on my teamim so tired
>>570705867Spellslinger takes a long while to build up full rate of fire. Any good reason why it's the more popular gun path compared to Merc Magnum? Yeah sure it has the higher ceiling but you have much longer build up and less ammo.>>570706130She is but even in bad patches I do not like playing meta abuser picks. They're always so abusable the game can hardly be considered interactive. But then again I realize it's "not that kind of game" where you get fair matches playing a nonmeta anchor.
>>570706130>character is fun to play>sucks at actually having enough impact to win the gamethis keeps happening
don't understand how I keep getting people in my lane that refuse to damage the troopers, and they aren't winning any trades either.
>>570707301>it takes a long time to stackwhat? you have a 2 second recharge/11 second cd( no cd items) spamable ability. she can throw her AoE faster than geist can throw daggers
I wish I could have two bans so I could never see a Shiv or Silver on my team ever again
>>570707849There's way too many Overwatch players in this game
>>570700037>Puddle punch to do no damage and make everyone miss their abilities>Ball to get instantly killed because it makes you 3x bigger while not giving you enough resists to make up for it anymoreCube is good but the hero has been raped into spamming his least interesting ability to be able to do anything.
>>570708525THAT'S LIKE THE BEST BUFF YOU DISGUSTING FOID
>>570708525>finding the best one
>>570708525>The foid doesn't know that spirit Drifter is the best way to play him
>>570706130Good, she's obnoxious and shouldn't have been added in the first place.
>>570708565Yeah, and it was because of Holliday/Celeste/other movement faggotry heroes complaining that Puddle Punch was able to shut down their faggy air dashing and corner boosting.
>>570708525>egirl slut cosplay phaseyeah this game is dead
>>570709370No it was because they over buffed puddle punch and then kneejerk nerfed it to be worse than it was before while still leaving it with an absurdly big radius for some reason.
>>570707301Mercmag scales the base gun dmg and hers sucks
Talon is unironically the most OP character in the game when is this redskin getting nerfed?
>Graves and seven player complaining about mcginnis ult all match long>They literally just hold both of their ults until urn brool every timeHoly complete lack of self awareness
Please do the needful : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198856856227/
>>570710254before white man come land ixian free.....
>>570710565McGinnis ult requires less thought and skill than Graves and Seven's ults.
>deadlock-api.comgenuinely the worst fucking piece of shit website I ever had the displeasure of laying my eyes upon, on the offchance that the dev browses this general I genuinely think you should kill yourself
>>570710965its OP I agree but at least you have to aim it. nothing takes less thought than graves ult. you just put it down and thats it everything else is automatic (like literally every other part of her kit btw)
>>570710254One day the white man will understand the buffalo, but by then it will already be too late.
>>570711138McGinnis ult requires almost no execution though, you press 4 and aim in the general direction of someone and then kill them for free once one rocket connects and they're slowed. Graves at least has to consider where to put the ult and whether to use it to push a lane or not, with the risk of feeding someone a million souls for killing the zombies and not having it up for a fight.
I think you should be banned if you refuse to push
>>570710793?
>>570710793k accept friend invite
Geist bomb should stick to enemies.
graves zombie should do 1000 damage
Why are these devs so bad at balancing the game? Overnight Holliday when from a C tier character to an S+++ character. It's a guaranteed loss when you're facing one due to how over-tuned she is. It's like the devs of this game hate making the game fun to play and instead delight in ensuring the player as the worst time imaginable whenever playing this game.
>>570712107The kind people of Reddit sorted me out, thanks anyway.
88945262>shiv gets stuck in tunnels while we have rejuv>entire team gathers round the vent to try and kill him since killme wasn't working apparently>entire enemy team shows up and watches us through the vent>everyone just backs off after and returns to playing the gameSOVL>>570710254hopefully only after his VGU
>>570710965>Graves can literally drop her ult anywhere on the map and it will have the same impact>All seven has to do is press 4 and you have to take cover or die>You can literally just rush mcginnis down if she's out of position or not backed up by 2 teammatesWhy lie to yourself
>get huge bag on rem>walk up to carry>open console>type killme>???Why shouldn't you do this?
>>570712635>>Graves can literally drop her ult anywhere on the map and it will have the same impactPlay Graves and do this>>All seven has to do is press 4 and you have to take cover or dieSeven's ult does no damage for 3/4 of the game and taking cover from it is the most pathetically easy thing. If the Seven rushes items to make it more threatening earlier he is actively throwing.
>>570712894Ult maxing in the urn meta is the only way to play seven that isn't griefing
>>570704463>downplaying Holliday that hardKill yourself. She is the most annoying character in the game right now due to the buffs. I hate her so much I'm drawing r34 of her getting gangbang raped by abrams and infernus taking the BBC.
>>570710965>>570711401>>570712635Ginnis ult does take at least some finesse to work in some situation. You could save it for low HP enemies at a distance, if they get close, stay next to and aim at the wall, works more than you might think
>>570714743>>570714743>>570714743>>570714743
>>570699284every popular Sinclair build but one has echo shard hex, melee charge, divine kevlar, arcane surge, cultist sacrifice, useless fucking trap itemswhen you can just build bolt and evaporate m1s while they're peacefully farming, deal 8000 damage in a teamfight before you even use ult, or be a legitimate threat to walkers at all stages of the game when you're left unattended with them for 6 secondsadmittedly it's way squishier than the other builds but you just have to live with it
Playing Viscous feels like taking a nice warm shower. Playing Celeste feels like hammering your balls repeatedly then chewing on glass.
>>570699819Them Oracle games are something else huh
>>570620851>le heckin puppy girlfailure wifwolf sexy badass girl>zero (0) good remodels since releasei dont know if it shows just how unsalvageable of a design Silver is, or just how tasteless and dogshit her fans arebunnysuit momo when
>>570636453care to share a link, anon?
