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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9421 - The Cuckening Edition

Thread Theme 1: https://youtu.be/zey3koM73X4?si=7nnBMvJxsAQxcdJo

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic Live in Concert
https://sonicliveinconcert.com/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>570992148
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06 and unleashed were franchise damaging
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Sonaze
Shadamy
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>>571024248
Silver doesn't care about romance.
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Storytime
>>>/co/154246846
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>conquering Sonic's world under my iron fist? My pleasure Mr. Blackwood
Why did Blaze do it?
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>>571024347
cnc
cnc
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idw won
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Man...
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>>571024248
Consider this, Fingers the Echidna!
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sonurge
shadally
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>>571024515
eh...
eh...
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>>571024512
unlike chuckles, i don't knuckle
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Chroniclesfag make a Shadally sex scene. Make it so when Shadow and Sally attack together they fuck.
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>>571024512
We have never seen him without his mittens so this is a valid headcanon
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>>571024815
he is also not a woman. silver lost...
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i don't think he's going to make a shadally sex scene
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But consider this also, Taels singin!
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Why does /dbg/ hate us?
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>>571024809
Chroniclesfag should make a Shadaria sex scene instead.
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>>571024515
Where's Duo now? I fucking love his Shadally Gens
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i love amy
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Silver will never:
>Be related to anyone
>Have consistent characterization
>Be respected
>Get his own game
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>>571024815
Ian is right. Japan also thinks Silver is too pure to kill, that's why he backed off after talking with Amy, and couldn't kill Blaze.
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>>571025000
What is the sex like?
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>>571024626
>Forces competent logistics coordinator
That's not a thing. Quit trying to turn Amy into your political tool i.e. lesbian girlboss who hates men.
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>>571025102
>Be related to anyone
the movies will change this
>Have consistent characterization
was always consistent
>Be respected
by faggots
>Get his own game
the movies will change this
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>>571025243
cute dad and son
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>>571024956
Everyone hates us because this general is full of spergs and schizophrenics with no self-awareness
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>>571024626
These descriptions are all just yap. None of em describe Amy in those games in particular.
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>>571024626
We should send Ian cute Amey pictures
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>>571024347
Silvouge
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>>571025160
I can relate with this Amy
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>>571025145
pure
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>>571025145
Rough
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>>571025309
>she thinks schizophrenics are this tame
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>>571025243
Dadow will never be canon. Silver sucks too much for Sonic Team to let him be Shadow's progeny.
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Instead of a sex scene he should keep doing super moves that have vague sexual tension so we have something to fight about
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>>571025674
what's a super move?
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>>571025668
people used to say the same about Nintendo and look what happened
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>>571024248
Does anyone know what the hell going on in the Undertard fandom? Why is my X(formerly Twitter) feed suddenly flooded with flamboyant Sans and his boyfriend?? OC?? Fanarts? Like, Elon we ain't wanna see that
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>>571025975
I wanna watch them make out
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>>571025975
>Turns your ship into incest
What did shiggy miggy mean by this?
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Confirm that Shadow's DNA is from Amy's family tree
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>>571026040
Peach was always implied to be Rosalina's mother, not sister. If it was ever going to became canon this outcome was inevitable
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>>571026056
As someone with a hairy wood this is painful
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>>571025975
Silver is retarded and a loser and Sonic Team won't let that be related to Shadow.
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>>571025997
undertale? A new chapter was announced a week ago, but I don't know more
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>>571025713
A cinematic attack in a video game that does a lot of damage. In this case it implies there's sexual temptation between the characters.
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>>571026170
Every time you say this you tempt fate to rape you you like a dirty slut for the chuckles, I suggest you stop unless you are a silverfag trying to make this happen via black magic.
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>>571022361
True, I forgot that side. There’s some shadouge schizo on /co/ who keeps trying to force Chad Shadow who gets all the girls kek.

>>571023556
Archie and SatAM basically released at the same time iirc, that’s why Sally had her early prototype look for a while, so they must have only gotten a few early character sheets or something.
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>>571024248
Amy? Rouge? Cream? Vanilla? Boorrinnggg
Make way for the Original Sega Waifu! (Who looks like Sonic)
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>>571026152
show us babe
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Sega of America; what do we think about them?
Hard mode: list at least one good thing they have done.
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>>571026362
I am adopted
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>>570992357
But what if she wore less?!
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>>571026406
Sonic Boom the show was...alright, I guess.
Everything else about Boom was crap and the brand as a whole deserved to die so SoA didn't usurp the franchise, but the show was okay. Not great. But okay.
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>>571026406
They made Sonic 2 exist I think? They didn't make it but I think they made Sonic team make Sonic 2 and CD instead of just CD?
I know some people apparently think they made Sonic 2 and that's why only SOA matters.
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>Abandon my kids? For FREE? Don't mind if I do!
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>>571026321
Silver is a dumb gay cuck. Sonic Team will never allow this to be Shadow's son.
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>>571025564
Shadow would never be rough with Maria.

...Unless she begged hard enough for it and didn't pass out during it
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>>571026596
Triplets born
The throne awaits
A seer warns of a deadly fate
Give up your children
SEPERATE
Eat hot chip
Lie and wait
DEADBEAT UNDERGROUND!
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>>571026563
awesome
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>>571024626
https://youtu.be/QSWu_NRm5PI

SA1 Amy: Amy goes from passive to girl to active heroine
SA2: Amy puts in the work based on the previous game, having gained more confidence, but still not quite there, learns she can help in her own way.
Heroes Amy: Runs her own squad, showing full confidence, using that confidence to motivate Cream and Big to find their friends.
06: Amy rushes in to save Sonic from Silver.
Unleashed, Amy stays cheerful and optimistic even in the face of Dark Gaia's wrath.

You know full well what people mean.
Give us the real Amy Rose.

Not these skinwalkers.
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>>571026472
now she needs to wear nothing
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>>571026614
He's a silverfag trying make Shadow his dad! STOP HIM!!
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>>571024809
>Whatchu gon do hedgeboy!
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>>571026761
Anon...
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I hate the Silver is Shadow's son headcanon because how can that unsexy cuck loser be Shadow's son? Was the mom like mentally impaired and ugly or something.
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Underground never gave an actual reason why Aleena had to leave her kids
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>GR15
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>>571026472
>>570992627
What if she wore less... again?!
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>>571026761
やめろおおおおおおおおおお!!!!!
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>>571026710
The "character development" types want to take away Amy's actual development and have her always have been a level-headed super strong girlboss.
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>>571026894
>yamero instead of yamete
ooc
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>>571026761
ANON LOOOK OUT!!
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2017 was 11 years ago
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>>571026984
It's not ooc Amy would say this if she saw pony posting on Hedgechan, after she wrote a long fic about sonic molesting her.
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>>571026406
They marketed Sonic 2 very effectively. Adding a bit of contemporary coolness to Sonic was a good idea, even if they leaned way too much into it and made him a poochie.
Recognizing Naka's importance was good on them. Sonic 2 might not exist if they didnt go looking for him.
Uh.....that's it.
I dont even like Boom like others do. I think its generic slop like Family Guy with maybe a handful of gags people remember and act like is the entirety of the show.
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>>571026887
More please.
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the windfags that scare me are the ones that say sonic x is too ooc.
the windfags that terrify me are the ones that say the games after sa2 are too ooc
you guys are too much
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>>571027052
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!
SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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>>571026859
Shadow isn't even a hedgehog so it doesn't work
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>>571026887
>>571027136
fixed
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>>571027140
SA2 is ooc actually as maekawa wrote sonic differently so Unleashed is actually more accurate to Sonic's character. But we aren't ready for that fuarking convo yet.
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>>571027262
SA2 is OOC????????????
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>>571026710
more splendor!
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>>571027182
Fuck you, nigger
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>>571027335
やめて!やめて!
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>>571027052
really? it feels like 20 years ago, why can time go faster?
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>>571027335
>Oh wow what a wholesome ima-OH MY GOODNESS
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>>571026710
Look at her, runnin' around with her OwN CreW!~
Cream n Cheese and Big too! She's so damn sassy though!~
[That's my girl, yo!]
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>>571027170
that's fine because Silver is a black arms too
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>>571027182
Actually this makes for cute male Amy ngl would gay sex
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>>570993520
Less is more!
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Describe me the eldritch horror i missed here >>571027335

also good faternoon
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Amy's penis...
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>>571027262
Maekawa wrote Sonic still as Sonic. They just made him more shonen-y with his anime rivalry with Shadow and junk. His actual base character is still perfectly in tact.
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>>571027762
Imagine if Ian did something like that...
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>>571027745
Sonic..
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>>571027846
I don't mind exploring aspects or sides of the character as long as his core is intact.
Maekawa Sonic doesnt really do anything SA1 Sonic wouldn't do.
His actions in SA2 are contextually justified, etc.
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>>571027182
Finally Amy can have sex with Sonic
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>Silver was born 200 years after Shadow was sealed away
>Silver is not black or a Black Arms
>Silver has small ears unlike every other hedgehog
>Sonic Team is moving away from DBZ inspiration because Shueisha is getting lawsuit heavy
>Silver was never literally Trunks even if that's the only way Sonic Team explains him
>Silver sucks too much to be related to Shadow
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>>571027846
People shit on the comics because they show Sonic in contexts we've already seen but behaving differently. We saw how Sonic would react if he was going to die, everyone was going to lose and there was nothing he can do about it in secret rings. He took it with a smile since he did his best.
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>>571027762
>>571027946
His World = Maekawa Sonic's theme.
https://youtu.be/TdfMa3tlf14
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>>571027723
The horror
The horror
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MAEKAWA MISCHARACTERIZED SONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>571027583
>>571028021
Silver is an arctic adapted hedgehog not a Black Arms
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>>571028320
Give examples
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>>571028348
there are no artic adapted hedgehos, posting headcanons isn't going to help your cause
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>>571028320
He didn't. At most you can find minor differences or tone shifts between some games, that's nowhere compared to the wildly different characterizations seen in comics and cartoons.
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>>571027762
>They just made him more shonen-y with his anime rivalry with Shadow and junk
They made him pissed at Shadow's existence. Sonic doesn't get angry. By and large SA2 Sonic IS OOC.

That is why he's the best Sonic.
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The wind!
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sa2 Sonic lies to Amy and says that he got caught on purpose. He never does anything like that again. OOC
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>>571028021
Silver still works without the Trunks influences since he basically is an inversion of Shadow
with Silver being future themed to contrast Shadow being about the past and Sonic the present
06 itself is more about the past, present and future theme than ripping off Dragon Ball
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>>571028594
Yep
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>>571028493
There are no fast blue hedgehogs, pink hedgehogs or black and red striped hedgehogs in real life either
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>>571028493
There are no arctic adopted hedgehogs in the modern era but Silver is from 200 years in the future where the only places not infested by Iblis would be frozen over since the sun was blocked out.
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>>571028768
Then why can't Sega tell Ian anything about Silver besides "he's like Trunks"?
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>>571028585
Him being upset at Shadow for one-upping him isn't really OOC. Sonic hasn't really dealt with someone like Shadow prior. Someone who is basically out-Sonic-ing him.
The only real example i can think of is the OVA where he also gets pissed at Metal.
Its not really OoC.
>>571028715
>lies
He didn't.
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sa2fags hate sonic
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>>571028861
I'm not the one who started applying real life logic
>>571028973
>I never liked the heat
this just means he hates iblis/ifrit his common enemies, not that his original birthplace is snowy. For all we can deduce Silver didn't travel much around his world since he said a desert of all things was beautiful to Amy
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>>571029287
Yes, I do.
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>>571029318
>this just means he hates iblis/ifrit his common enemies
No it doesn't. It means he doesn't like the heat. He's an Arctic hedgehog not a Black Arms.
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>>571028348
>>571028493
>>571028973
Silver's white and cyan color scheme are just Shadow's colors inverted
Silver's ears being small are so we are able to see them through his leaf quills
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHPcCgNcAuE&t=1770s
Shadow existing made Sonic ooc
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>>571028594
>>571028795
Sonic 2XL, manga edition.
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>>571029445
he had small ears even when he was a weird looking twink cyborg
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>>571029445
>Silver's ears being small are so we are able to see them through his leaf quills
His ears would have to be bigger then
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I want to be breastfeeded by Sonic
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>>571029736
MAEKAWA YOU MOTHERFUCKER
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>>571029450
I don't need another classic autist meltdown
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>>571028493
>pic
Holy OOC of the highest Magnitude! This is way too masculine for tails, stop it
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>>571029445
His color scheme wasn't made inverse of Shadow on purpose they just started with a white Sonic during the concept art stages.
The small ears definitely prove he's not anyone's kid though.
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>>571029873
>stop making fanarts that I don't like!
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>>571029869
I forgot that classicfags genuinely think things like this
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>>571029776
Me too
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>>571029914
>they just started with a white Sonic during the concept art stages
like everyone else? everyone is white in the sketches
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>>571029318
Explain him also liking the cold then.
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>>571030195
Silver was an alien and an orange mink before becoming hedgehog. When they made him a hedgehog Nakamura liked the white Sonic baseline in the drawing stage so much he made that the character design.
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>>571027182
Oh shiittt I'm gay asfuckkk...
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>>571027182
That's a man. Mobian girls are for trannies confirmed.
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you're tied to a chair, fiona is giving you a lapdance and flicking your face with her tail
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>>571030567
NOOOOOOOOO IM GAY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>571030567
ok
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>>571029974
They all talk in this jaded monotone voice and holier than thou attitude. They genuinely believe they are "wise" people that speak true facts and knows better than anyone else when their just highly opinionated people with their heads too far up their own ass
it's fucking annoying
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>>571030941
Boomer mentality.
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>>571030941
sonic fans in a nutshell
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>>571030941
Why are Classic fans so pretentious? They speak with authority based on vibes alone.
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hedgehogs
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Most of those people don't even like the classic games and never play them. They insist that the series should be built around game mechanics that they made up and that never appeared in any of the official games.
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>>571031208
I don't like classic Sonic
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>>571031109
>They speak with authority based on vibes alone.
Everyone in fandom circles does that.
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Shadaria
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>>571031303
I don't know who you are or how you're relevant
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>>571031303
I like classic sonic stuff, I just don't like the pretentious snooty fanboys
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>>571024372
Not an oof big enough
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>>571031430
Same
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>>571031303
You like gay
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>>571026887
AIDS ridden whore
>>571027182
Fun, cheerful and loyal companion for Human Men
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>>571031303
You don't like Genesis Sonic or you don't like Generations-Classic Sonic which is just a shambling corpse of Genesis Sonic?
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>>571030663
Knuckles body but on a horse guy
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>>571031685
female mobians are like cats, male mobians are like dogs
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Sonamy
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>>571031820
evan can't help herself
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You guys are racing to the bottom
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>>571032123
No. I'm racing to win. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzmRAzgBKpc
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>>571032123
We all won the sperm race
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>>571029450
>Metal Sonic
>Flexible
All he can ever do is show up to job though because he has no character other than seething that he isn't Sonic.
Metalosers are overreacting on shitting on other better characters and crinb8ng their shit.
I don't agree Sonic himself became less cool because of Shadow. But I do remember people saying "Shadow is just Sonic but le better" in the 2000s.
The point of Shadow was actually to elevate Sonic which isnt something any other characters really did.

A lot of the things in this video are really forced imo.

>Unlisted
Guess the video got a lot of heat lol.
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>>571031801
Uhh yeah what he said
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>>571032339
>Guess the video got a lot of heat lol.
>6k views
Probably not
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>>571032272
You won the white race
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>>571024248
IDW never cease to disappoint
How many issues will this take anyway?
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>>571025102
And it's all Evans fault
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guys its time to take that shower you've been putting off for months!
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>>571032751
Arcs are three issues long now.
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>>571032996
What makes it "mens" soap? It's just soap
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is idw still going to end by 100 like that other anon said?
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>>571033141
its soap for men
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>>571033141
It has Sonic on the packaging, that's as manly as it gets. A pussy like you wouldn't get it
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>>571032996
There needs to be a Smash Bros version
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>>571033412
I want Shadow soap instead
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>>571033141
It doesn't smell like something a woman would use / put
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>>571033490
That's for women
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>>571033490
so you can smell it while masturbating or for actual bathing use
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>>571032996
I want Cream the Rabbit soap to rub between my buttcheeks
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>>571032996
do I stink that much?
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>>571033853
The reason why your brain gets fried every morning is mostly because you reek
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>>571033523
What do women smell like?
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>>571033161
>like that other anon said?
You got a screencap?
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>>571034119
fish
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this is autism but the anon who says ''ian and evan uwuver are different uwuvers'' what is the difference?
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>>571032468
Overall I liked the video. It makes some decent points, and even when its not, its at least revealing some relevant discussion points.

Mixed bag but I would describe it overall as a useful video.
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>>571034119
Nature stuff
Men smell like swollen lighting, and money town
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Time to ruin the /co/ thread.
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>>571030567
But I'm a foid I have no peepee. Does Fiona is gay?
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>>571034354
Work on your internalized misogyny.
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>>571033141
Probably smells like pine and oak. There are "men's soaps" designed with producs for men's bodies because they are in fact different to women's.
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>>571030567
I came prepared and have put on my chastity cage in advance!
Stupid bitch will only be able to fuck my through my ass now!
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>>571024372
I don't want to shitpost in /co/, I want to shitpost here
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>>571032339
I don't get the whole "Shadow is just Sonic but cooler" argument, both of them are distinctive archetypes. I think Sonic is cooler than Shadow, being a stoic loner isn't cool unless you're 10 but I still like him
Sonic being seen as less cooler then he used is due to Sega making him more of a clean soulless mascot while Shadow don't

Metal Sonic is my favorite character and I do hate Metalfags needing to throw Shadow under the bus because they are bitter. Both Metal and Shadow while similar in some aspects do fulfill different roles. I do blame Sega forcing Shadow to always have beef with Sonic when that's best suited for Metal. Shadow is meant to be his own main character, not being stuck as a side character to Sonic
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Finally an issue were Blaze gets manipulated for once, nobody understands that she's not that clever or intelligent, it's part of her character to stray herself into the wrong direction so getting manipulated is way more easier than you would expect, hopefully they actually treat her like a character instead of a Mary sue and get her humbled
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I DO IN FACT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT CUNTS ON TWITTER AE SAYING
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>>571033490
This
>>571033607
Both
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>>571029114
sonic team likes to use rosy poetic language in purpose (so autistic fans get obsessed with trying to solve these characters and stories for years repeatedly, like a riddle) it's ironic for a character people call ''striaghtforward'' though i've seen some fixes or bandaids to how he's usually portrayed lately, even if it's not even close to being fully fixed.
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>>571034251
An all-new reboot would be best but I think it's interesting to see that continuing the og Archie run is so popular at second place.
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>>571034546
>hopefully they actually treat her like a character instead of a Mary sue and get her humbled
Saar, we're talking about Silver and Blaze together in an IDW comic written by Evan Stanley
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>>571034560
Nobody cares about this Twitter user. They are wrong about everything they say and nobody ever agrees with them. Archie Shadow should replace mainline Shadow, he was a better character with actual development.
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>>571034251
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>>571034920
This
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Tails
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>>571035302
Let's suck his blood.
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>>571034929
This is a failed strategy for several reasons:
- Given the sluggish release of the comics at the moment, unless they buckshot the last 12 issues within this year, we'd be waiting until late 2027 for the comic to end, then late 2028 at the earliest for the reboot.
- IDW has been proven time and again to have the shittiest and one of the most ideologically compromised management, with a comically frequent turnover of head operatives. No one's going to trust the same publisher that screwed over the Sonic comics to begin with, both in terms of management and writing staff
- This is of course assuming that IDW as a whole can survive a year without the ongoing Sonic series. If they were struggling before with it, they're definitely going to flounder even more
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>>571029914
i feel like some shadow is on purpose, things like fluffy chest and eye liner thingie don't really indicate ''white sonic''

unless you think it comes from blaze instead of shadow (fluffy cuffs being moved to chest, blaze also having the eye liner thingie throguhg her eyelashes) but that's stretching althouhg i dont think its impossible.
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>>571034478
>I don't get the whole "Shadow is just Sonic but cooler" argument, both of them are distinctive archetypes. I think Sonic is cooler than Shadow, being a stoic loner isn't cool unless you're 10 but I still like him
I mostly agree. Most of the stuff making Sonic less cool has little to do with Shadow and more with them making him more poochie.

Speaking as someone who remembers when people did claim Shadow was just Sonic but better and cooler, ans disagreed even back then when everything being made egier all around me, I get the sense this is a guy eho is more expressing resentment over the fact this happened at all moreso than making a balanced assesment.

Shadow is cool, but he isn't really a timeless ans classic form of cool the way Sonic at his best is, nor does Shadow compete with Sonic in this respect.

I also really disagree with the redundancy arguments.

I also see Shadow as less "incompatible" with the core series and more expanding on elements that didnt get as much attention. The theming of weapons of war and military overreach were there since Sonic 1.
I am sympathetic to the point though

>I do blame Sega forcing Shadow to always have beef with Sonic when that's best suited for Metal.

Right. I think of Shadow as more of a MetaKnight really.
That said I think the rivalry aspect of Shadow being downplayed too much is also not good.
I think the problem is people tend to misunderstand the rivalry between the characters. What I liked about it is how personal and disconnected from the plot it is.
MetalSonic at the end of the day is an Eggman robot, so everything he does is filtered through being a reflection of Eggman's ambitions.
Knuckles is more of a friend and a foil than a real rival. They only really fought because Knuckles would be tricked.
Sonic and Shadow is different because Shadow can actually test Sonic, and their fights always feel more personal in this respect.
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Why do oldfags still cling to the 4Kids portrayals?
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im watching sonic prime rn :3
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>>571036051
Yeah Silver even having those bracelte cuffs is also obviously inspired by shadow's for example.
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>>571036318
Good post
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KEEEEEEEK THIS ISSUE ENDS LIKE THIS??

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>571037097
Sonamy winning on all fronts.
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>>571037097
>why are you so inconsistent?
>why am i so inconsistent?
sanik front ears reference bros. evan stanley is taking her senpai's path
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>new issue is 22 pages of nothingburger
5 dollars well spent for the cucks who buy it
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>>571036692
i wish they kept the eyeliner thing going all the way to under his eyes cuz it would look more like undereyebags than eyelash which would fit the theme of the game making him look tired or stressed i think.

either hes nega-shadow or hes mirroring blaze who herself has inspiration from shadow.
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The bit about Rouge being redundant with Fang is very weird to me. Rouge being called a treasure hunter always felt more like hoe Samus is called a Bounty Hunter. Ostensibly, Rouge is a jewel thief. She doesn't fo Indiana Jones style looking for treasures in tombs the way Fang would or does.
She is a calling card career thief who takes gems the way catwoman likes cat things.

Her describing herself as a treasure hunter is her sanitizing her own thieving ways, portraying it as something more high art than it is, the way The Trickter treats his crimes like a show.

The Metal Sonic and Knuckles one ive already spoken about.
Metal cant really work as a rival the way Shadow can because he is an Eggman robot. Having Metal be truly equal to Sonic limits Sonic and debases him.
The whole point of Metal is that he is a misunderstanding of Sonic. He uses a jet engine to go fast and doesnt even spin into a ball. If Eggman could truly have Metal outdo or match Sonic, that would e missing the point of Metal's narrative and themes.

Shadow be contrast reveals Sonic is even cooler than we thought.
We learn he can do even more cool shit with the Emeralds and that even a super being even smarter than Eggman who did advance emerald research ultimately isn't as cool as him.

Knuckles was some dude who was duped and got a cheap shot. His whole deal is that Sonic is cooler than him and it rubs him the wrong way.
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>>571037404
Heh. I don't even have any money
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>>571020035
Why not use the Bouncy Glow versions which are hypothetical "finished" mixes? Or is Bouncy Glow now persona non grata after that Discord drama that seems like some annoying crybully kid?
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I know I'm late on this, but it'd be easier to convince me SEGA isn't leaning so hard on crossovers if CrossWorlds was the only Sonic thing doing it
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>>571026710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl2OeBBcLBQ
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>>571038145
Everything Sonic related except the two main comics for the past year and a half has been crossovers
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>>571038145
The crossover cereal mascot franchise.
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Game Sonic will never be this cool
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>>571038145
sonic doesn't sell much outside those movies. and they sell for the wrong reasons
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>>571038226
Based Eggkek
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>>571038897
This movienic gets kidnapped for sex
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>>571026887
>wears less clothes
>adds more bytes
Why AI be like dis?
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Tails: "If I can be by his side, I can be more like him."
Amy: "If I can be more like him, I can be by his side."
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>>571039250
I believe it
>Needs correction attitude
>Can't stop getting himself into trouble
>1 meter tall
He is just asking for it
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>>571039421
Anon, please turn this girl into a bratty pretty boy right now
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>>571038226
Fucking based
Never forget who's the best character is
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>>571039421
malicious code, which you'll never find out about until after a hundred or so faps
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>>571037796
>and doesnt even spin into a ball.
He does though, just not in Sonic CD.
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I need Shadow sex right now fuckkk fuckkkkkkkkk cum in my pussy right fuckuing now you autistic rat I'll even wear the blue headband unnghhh plapplaplplaplaplapalpplapplapplapplapplaplapplapplaplap
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>>571039525
Tell me about it.
Also
>sleeping with a random man he just met
Thank you Fowler for giving us such naive vulnerable cutie ripe for raping <3
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>>571039798
Well, this is my 99th fap!
Wait a minute... fucking WHOR- *throws pc*

*pc blows up*

SO YOU TRIED TO KILL ME UH?!??
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the kosher knuckles show
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>>571040138
I don't like this
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>>571039450
I think one of the reason the "share her love with the world" line from Frontiers bothers so many people is because Amy was like the only character with a more defined longterm goal. Particularly one that is proactive and concrete.

Tails wasnt to improve himself and live up to his potential. Thats good but there isnt really a point where we can say he decidedly did that. Its vague.
Knuckles guards the Master Emerald. He only really has a concrete goal when it is endangered.

Amy wanted to grow strong enough to impress Sonic and ge his respect and affection. She's even said she wants to be enough of a baddy that Sonic is the onr chasing her. She wanted to show she could be capable and hang with him.

Thats a concrete thing for fans of the character to be invested in.

Ofc, it isnt something we would necesarily see decidedly happen, but its still something to be invested in.

Amy was already pretty much sharing her love with the world just by being herself.
So it feels like replacing something concrete with nothing.
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>>571040325
>oy vey knuckles, we've been persecuted just like you!
>>that sounds horrible! Please, take refuge in my echidna city! I built it after finding out there are survivors willing to rebuild a future!
And this is how the echidnas went extinct.
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>>571040536
Sucks to be you
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>>571020685
Anon it only affects first-party games.
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>>571039930
The only time he ever does is when he is an unlockable Sonic reskin. Canonically he isnt supposed to. It doesnt even make sense for him to be able to.
Thats why he overdrive his circuits and shocks you instead.
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>>571040536
Oww don't be such a moralfag
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>>571027140
I would like one of these so called windfags to explain how Sonic is OOC in Sonic X
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>amy shares love with the world
A colorful way to say she's tired of all the chasing and is now fucking half the mobian race, and the other half of the human one.
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>>571040536
This is /sthg/ brother
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>>571040756
>>571040852
>>571041076
Your way of raping is sick and twisted. My way of raping is based.
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>>571040689
>I think one of the reason the "share her love with the world" line from Frontiers bothers so many people is because Amy was like the only character with a more defined longterm goal. Particularly one that is proactive and concrete.
It treats Amy's love for Sonic as something to outgrow, and presents "sharing love with the world" as something she SHOULD do instead of what she already does.

Amy has two sides:
A) Pursuing Sonic with overwhelming affection.
B) Share love and compassion with the world and brighten everyone's day.

B is how she naturally operates on the inside, A is what dominates the surface layer external behavior that is most visible. But that causes the misunderstanding that B doesn't exist. Thus, "Amy should stop doing (A) and start doing (B) instead" when she's always done B already.

Amy is a girl who chases after a boy, with romance as her motivation and goal. The problem is trying to make a problem, when it never was.

Tails & Amy are both simple character concepts.
Tails is the kid brother that wants to be as cool as his hero, Amy is the girl whose madly in love with her dream guy. Sonic is the cool hero Tails looks up to, and the dream guy Amy is in love with, his existence fuels both of their actions.

Amy's half of the equation should not be treated like a crime against women .
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>>571040915
Mobians are humans*
*specifically overlanders which are "evolved" humans with the same dna soup.
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C'mon /sthg/ what did tell you?
Rape is okay
Rape is moral
Rape is based
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You VVILL become Movviepilled
And you VVILL LIKE IT
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>>571041905
he's alright
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>>571041905
If we get a game reboot based on the movie characters, it really could be a lot worse.
(It's all riding on Amy...)
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>>571041321
I thinkna confounding factor is shipping culture and how characters get reduced to "bets" as proxy wins for fandom discourse.
Ian said he didn't like the idea of Amy chasing a guy that runs from her.
I don't get why this is an issue outside of shipping discourse?
Its like the dynamic is treated as a thing that exists in a vacuum and "hijacks" thr characters rather than the consequence of the characters.
It's weird.

In general people seem to just have trouble getting characters without them getting up on a podium and stating it to them.
Maybe anime localizers were right about westerners having low attention spans and needing everything over explained and constant dialogue like dangling keys.
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>>571029450
This video is correct. Really people only liked Shadow for extremely shallow reasons
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Scourge getting domesticated
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>>571042039
female fans do this to pretty much all the hedgehogs, the artist you posted also likes yaoi which famously do this more than yumes or heteroshippers.

the dubs, as bad as they are, are getting less obviously uwu and hes getting less uwu in the comics. i care more about official content than what fans might prefer.

hana-chan from doremi is cream+ amy
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>>571042237
Lol not gonna happen amytroon. You can kill the entire movie with Amy's presence though.
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Douge
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>>571042513 (me)
>>571042039
in the gay shipping front, the biggest uwuficiation is coming from the shadilver side, espio is also seen as twinky or ''gay coded'' himself, and it's easier to convince people silver would top or at least be equal to sonic instead of being the ''uke'' shadow ships in general have this effect to every character they are shipped with
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>>571033141
It's almost certainly the scent. Men's and women's products like deodorant, perfume/cologne, body spray, aftershave, etc. usually have different profiles because of what works best with their natural scents and what people generally find more appealing in that sex. For example, masculine scent profiles are usually more woody, earthy, smoky, etc. while feminine scent profiles tend to be more floral, fruity, sweet, etc. There are unisex scent profiles, too, but I'm assuming since this one is marketed toward men that it's using some combination of masculine scents. (Could also be stronger since men tend to sweat more.)
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>>571042513
Oh you know the artist? I didn't want to post the name of the account because I know some people here would send her death threats
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Amy posters are cute, CUTE!
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>>571042850
what if you're bi or gay?
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>>571043003
yes, as i pointed out, the artist is a shadilver shipper, which is the biggest source of uwufication from the eastern side i think, easier to convince people silver could top or be equal with espio or sonic who are victims of various twinkifications themselves.

i think hating on a fanartist who does cute wholesome stuff is loser behaviour myself, but sega should do the quality control for their official stuff.
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>>571042850
I'm a woman I use men's products and scents to subconsciously inform the normalfag women around me that I am their superior because I want to fuck Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>recent anime
>most of the cast are women
>only guy is the bored level headed guy
>finally new a male character
>he is male in appearance. but behaves and talks like how girl characters do.
>later is made to cross dress
are you sure you want the japs to write? what makes you think they are not content with idw? it's inline with modern anime?
east
>faggy writing with trauma maxxing and silvaze tanabata
west
>faggy writing with trauma maxxing but gay and silvaze tanabata
pick your poison, sonicman
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>>571044065
Neither
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Prime Shadow is not Shadow
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>>571041321
>B is how she naturally operates on the inside, A is what dominates the surface layer external behavior that is most visible. But that causes the misunderstanding that B doesn't exist. Thus, "Amy should stop doing (A) and start doing (B) instead" when she's always done B already.
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Can this silvaze-media-literacy faggot just die already??
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>>571043398
Unless you're attracted to really fucking fruity men or super butch women, then it doesn't change much.
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>>571044065
>>571044065
the japanese writers are more impersonal and can probably set aside their fetishes to write in character for the official stuff. i don't care if they draw sonic and silver as femboys getting fricked by shadow in their private accs as long as their official art and writing is on brand. i care more about professionalism than whatever their preferences are.
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>>571044329
you are missing the point.
i am watching a 2026 anime right now and the cast are 90% female. the scene infront of me has got 3 women pushing the plot and one timid guy who is "uwu i am so shy. pwees no hurt"
.
speaking about that interesting post of your. you LOVE yaoi, don't you? you want to see (in character) gay porn. don't you you stupid disgusting fat faggot?
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>>571026614
idwslop aside, psme sequel has the main guy's son(shadow stand in) be a boy who's innocent and cheery. i don't think silver is related to anyone but it's not that off brand for shadow's son to be not super masculine.
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>>571044269
When we just got news for the next chapters featuring both? Obviously no
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>>571044610
>>571044470
i don't like any ship for sonic or silver besides sonamy and silvaze. but again i just trust japanese writers to be more impersonal and write the characters as they are rather than forcing their own preferences, westerners make stuff too much about themselves.
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>>571044943
>the gay porn has to be ic, everyone. or else, i am going to spam about ian daily for 5 years straight. if sonic doesn't react right in the gay porn i am going on a killing spree against archiefags. if ian tries to sink my otp, i am going to dox the archie staff. the problem is that the characters are not ic and not that the mdia is fucking shit and is literal poison.
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>>571024626
>LARPERan FAKERlynn
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>>571044395
Femboys are my one weakness. Sorry, if you're womanly in every way but genital, that won't stop my penis.
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>>571024372
>anon having a melty spamming the thread with off topic comics
damn /co/ is even worse than /sthg/, I don't know why anyone would browse that awful board
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>>571042305
You can say that about most people eith every character though.

A lot of Tails fans literally only like him because they project SSJ2 Gohan onto him.
A lot of Amy fans only likr her because she is the main girl.
A lot of Knuckles fans liked Knuckles for the same shallow reasons that this guy in the video is accusing Shadow of.
Same with Metal.
Blaze is only liked because she is a girl with her own emeralds and a superform. She's basically girl Shadow.
Silver is liked for.being another hedgehog with a superform.

A lot of Shadow's fans are actually just fangirls that like him because he died fighting for his not-girlfriends passing wish.

And a lot of people only like Sonic because he is the main character and thus the star.

While it's worth acknowledging this fact, it isn't fair to reduce the character's merits based on this fact.
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>>571045081
You forgot to attach the Gigachad image
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>>571045081
i'm not obsessed with gays as much as you are but go off.
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>>571045548
>2 panels posted with a several hours gap
>uh oh melty spamming
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>>571043256
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>>571045626
>dismissed the main topic and focused on the gay porn
>AGAIN
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>>571024815
Ian straight up saying Sonic twitter headcanons are retarded and just as OoC like UwUver
Yet you all hate the guy.
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>>571045634
>2 panels
there are plenty of pics from other chapters to piss people off
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Blaze's existence ruins Sonic's character.
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>>571045701
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>>571043256
Th-thanks...
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>>571045807
what is your main topic? gayshit or autogynephiliashit existing in anime isn't anything new and has been in droves since 00s. sonic team isn't concerned with trying to appeal haremshit crowd so i dont get what's your worry.
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>>571025997
Deltarune is getting a new chapter and the fanbase sorta mutated after months and months of bickering over Dess headcanons.
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>>571046103
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>>571025997
>>571046259
Also the flamboyant Sans thing is just another AU trend, nothing too shabby though.
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>>571034478
>>571036318
I have a different problem with Shadow in that I don't think he brings ANYTHING to the series. He's just there for rivalwank. I wouldn't even be mad if they got rid of him forever except that he's top 2 in the series alongside Sonic so he's not going anywhere. They haven't done anything interesting with him since 06. He's just there to be grumpy and get challenged by Sonic so he can go "Hmph. You wish you could be me, blue hedgehog" and get his ass beat like the jobber he is.
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why are you posting your twitter posts
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>>571046103
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>>571045314
All i want Yuuta to do is show his tiny baggage and it'll be better than any Sonic media released since SatAM
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negative sonic and light sonic cannibalized each others characters
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Hi /sthg/!
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>>571042039
>filename
This is what ever female fan does in any franchise though.
Pic related.
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>>571046259
>Dess is a Tails poster
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>>571042039
Is that Daisuke Ono Uwuver?
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>571045587
People only like Silver and Blaze for their special relationship. Their original concepts as negative Sonic and light Sonic are irrelevant. These characters are unsalvagable.
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>>571046910
the artist is a shadilver shipper, mephilver and shadilver are where most of the uwufication from the eastern side comes from. same story as sonadow really.
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>>571042436
>creator of Zonic and the Zone Cops is widely open for Sonic Team and others to use his ideas at any capacity, free of royalty
I hope SEGA take his hand. I miss the Zone Cops.
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>>571025108
Silver is a cold killer. The only reason he didn't kill Sonic was because the moral dillemma got in the way and he was emotionally attached to Blaze on top of getting blindsided with the sudden choice to get rid of her. You forget his backstory is killing demons in hell his whole life and he has no problem letting people die if they're truly evil.

>>571045835
Ian has long since gone against that take made Silver coldy homicidal because he realized 06 was about him trying to assassinate Sonic with no hesitation and he left Eggman Nega without a second thought.
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>>571046785
Dess is Omocat's UTDR self insert
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Having Silver and Blaze be "in-character" and fight or be complex actually ruins the hallowedness of their relationship.

>>571046276
This was only because they didn't remember each other in those instances.
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>>571042782
Knuckles tops everyone
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>>571047630
>Having Silver and Blaze be "in-character" and fight or be complex actually ruins the hallowedness of their relationship.
What is even the point of their "relationship" then. How can anyone accept this
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>>571046403
Ideally the way he gets used is kind of like MetaKnight where his primary purpose is to test Sonic but is otherwise doing his own thing rather than being a constant presence.
I don't see why rivalwank is bad exactly.
I feel like people hold Shadow to an unrealistic standard in regards to ehat he is supposed to bring to scenarios given how popular his is. Both fans and detractors.
Metal Sonic doesnt bring anything but people insist he show up. Mighty and Ray dont bring anything but people clamoured to have em come back.
Cream doesnt bring anything but people insist she comes back.

Personally I think him moving on from his past in his game and 06 was the correct move and him retreading Maria stuff is while acceptable as him getting to grieve as a last goodbye, still kind of retreading old ground rather than just moving forward with the character.
I think how he was used in Forces was fine and good for example of how to use him.
But his fans won't accept that he be used so simply, which is thr actual problem imo. But Shadow isnt unique in having this problem.
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>>571045835
You don't actually care about being in-character, you're just mad at people on Twitter
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>>571047630
Oh now you don't want to use IDW now that its going against your narrative that Silver and Silvaze can never be anything but wholesome chungus.

>>571047864
Don't reply to tanabataschizo. There's no reason or discussion to be had with him.
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>>571046931
Personally I prefer this because their being sonic counterparts was always forced and cheap ways of speedrunning them into being popular and has little to do with them as actual characters.
Sonic and Shadow at least had the anime rivalry thing, so even without his meme backstory Shadow brings something to the table to Sonic's character.

Blaze actively detracts from Sonic and is a drain and Silver has little to do with Sonic himself as a character. He just cribs Sonic's look to shill himself.

Blaze's character as a princess from another dimension who is standoffish and needed people to shove friendship down her throat didnt need her being some sonic counterpart to work or be good.

Silver's thing about being a hero from the future with psychic powers who tries to make a better tomorrow didnt need him looking like Sonic for him to be good or work.

Its just cheap ways to make people attach to the character for shallow reasons because they saw how it worked for Shadow.
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>>571047651
You know it actually did work on me.
Not sure if you intended for me to look up Dagasi Tails stuff but that’s what happened.
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Completely vindicated that everyone just wants Silver and Blaze to be Silver-colored Sonic and Blaze.

>>571047864
They're mirrors of each other who get along perfectly and are always in-step but they're kept seperate by the spacetime and duties.
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>>571047880
>I don't see why rivalwank is bad exactly.
>I feel like people hold Shadow to an unrealistic standard in regards to ehat he is supposed to bring to scenarios given how popular his is. Both fans and detractors.
>Personally I think him moving on from his past in his game and 06 was the correct move and him retreading Maria stuff is while acceptable as him getting to grieve as a last goodbye, still kind of retreading old ground rather than just moving forward with the character.
>But his fans won't accept that he be used so simply, which is thr actual problem imo. But Shadow isnt unique in having this problem.
I'll just say that I don't disagree with any of this. I actually very much agree with all of it. But the problem is the he's in the same boat as Amy now. In the same way that Amy has been reduced to "girl" and nothing else, Shadow has been reduced to "rival" and nothing else. He has LESS chemistry with the greater cast than Amy does, so like I said all he ever does is show up and job in a rival showdown. There's nothing else that they're doing with him. 06 WAS him moving on from SA2-Shadow and it was a great story with excellent interactions with the rest of the cast, especially Silver. But now he's just "rival." If they're not going to do anything with him, he may as well not show up. I think of like the recent baseball thing with the costume characters. You know what Shadow's job was? To just stand there separately from everyone else and act grumpy. That's it. That's who he is now. Amy was out there flirting with Sonic, getting protective, Knuckles and Tails were hanging out with the group, Sonic was with his friends, and Shadow was just... there. That's how Sega and ST see Shadow. That's the instructions they give.
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>>571048420
Well Dagasi is uh...

Nice that you got converted though! Now you just need to build a body of Tails knowledge
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What in holy autism matrimony is this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1e0dx19/artists_should_stay_away_from_the_fan_webcomic/
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>>571046931
Only Silvaze shippers like their relationship and even then 99% of them don't know or care about your esoteric Japanese themes.
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>>571048461
>Sonic and Blaze.
I don't get what any relationship Blaze has with anyone is other than closed off girl is with somebody, can you explain what Blaze relationships are with Sonic, Cream, Amy and Marine?
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>>571048287
>Silver and Blaze can never be anything but wholesome chungus
They're not supposed to be, no.

Yes they fought and made up but if that becomes a staple of their relationship turns them into Sonic and Blaze but mawkish slop.
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>>571048684
tl
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>>571048973
Yeah i didn’t read it either. Maybe someday i will…
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If you think about it
Silver and Blaze are just serious Cream and Blaze
While Sonic and Blaze are just serious Marine and Blaze
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>>571048650
It will take time to get all that knowledge but I will enjoy the ride nonetheless!
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>>571049268
Yeah! You have excellent taste
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>>571048971
Sonic and Blaze did not fight, Blaze is the one that fights there, it would be nice to have someone that goes angry with her for a change.
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>>571049206
sonic and silver are lolis

sounds right?
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>>571048909
Read her Sonic Channel cover story. https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2021/11/06/sonic-channel-wallpaper-cover-story-sonic-blaze-november-2021/

Sonic and Blaze respect each others way of doing things. Sonic finds her closed off nature charming. It's like Sonic and Knuckles except complimentary instead of antagonistic with the added motif of being fated to help each other across dimensions. People hate the term "friendly rival" but that's the closest word for it.

With the girls it's that she gets disarmed by their cuteness and straightforwardness and reveals her true feminine side. Marine in particular bosses Blaze around and feeds into her unserious side.
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>They need dynamic, they need chemistry, they need something to make the-
Knuckles and Tails don't have neither a dynamic nor a chemistry but i don't see faggots screaming about them, i wonder if it's 06 causing you all to still have PTSD and to scream in terror every time which suggests none of this matters.
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did anyone check how much uwuver is in general sonilver content? with shadilver,sonadow,sontails etc. there is very clear general consensus on who tops, but with sonilver it seems like one of those things where there isn't a clear consensus yet. probably the most ''equal'' yaoi ive seen
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>571048971
Silver and Blaze are both fiery and headstrong and come from different cultures, of course there can be more conflict between them.
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>>571049762
Bro no one thinks about Knuckles. Why should anyone? He's irrelevant
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>>571048461
i think people don't want it to be sonic and blaze because it doesn't work for sonic's character. hardcore blazefags are the only ones invested in sonaze while actual wind or sonicfags would rather see her shackled to anyone else even if they are not particularly invested in silver or silvaze. they kinda wrote themselves in corner with sonaze desu.
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>>571049635
>Respect
>Friendly rival who doesn't rival
>help each other but always one sided
So just respect for random reasons?
>Girls being cute causes someone to calm down
Sounds like Creams dynamic with everyone

So to recap, Blaze dynamic is being respected and that's it? that something if anybody touches they became a copy of Sonic and Blaze?
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>>571048386
Okay but
>Silver is a hedgehog
>Blaze has the Sol Emeralds and is the fire to Sonic's wind
If you want to admit these characters are unsalvagable that's fine.
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>>571049762
Knuckles is a character that his kingdom stolen by Ken Penders. He's still at the front of the franchise but there's not much to do or say with him.
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>>571024626
>Says "I prefer SA1-SA2 Amy myself".
>Deliberately writes her as Boom Amy because he hates the fact that SA1-SA2 Amy is girly and in love with Sonic
How is Sega allowing him to get away with so much lying and misconduct?
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>>571048684
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>>571050198
Blaze is more unsalvagable than Silver which we have proof of today of nobody even knowing how she should act or how should others should act towards her without reminding them that she's just for Sonic.
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>>571050154
>one-sided
Blaze helps Sonic in IDW and Sonic Channel.

Cream does not "calm people down" she antagonizes people with her straightforwardness.
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>>571047241
desu sonic is a different case than what he has killed before, i am not saying silver should be an innocent femboy but sonic was a person an innocent person who he helped is devoted to the point of choosing him over the world. before that he was mostly fighting iblis, a non sentient entity.
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>>571048536
>If they're not going to do anything with him, he may as well not show up. I think of like the recent baseball thing with the costume characters. You know what Shadow's job was? To just stand there separately from everyone else and act grumpy. That's it.
Oh okay I get what you mean and I largely agree. Shadow does get shoved into marketing and iconography in ways that are unwitting, simply because he is so popular and that's kind of lame.
I'm personally not offended by the baseball mascot thing though, but it is revealing a real issue that I agree with you on.

For me personally, what makes Shadow work and stand out is that he forces Sonic to lock in and tests him.
In SA2, Shadow comes in, shows Sonic uo and Sonic has to learn Chaos Control to match and beat him. And when they both go Super, Sonic is the one carrying.
It elevated Sonic, simular to hoe MetaKnight does Kirby.
Sonic's relationship with the Chaos Emeralds and Super Sonic are ot should be highlighted when they interact.

Treating him as a core member of the cast doesnt work at all.
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TGT is the ultimate crossover media
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>>571050480
Silver didn't care about the sentient part until the innocent part came up. He's fine with killing but ultimately wants to do the right thing.
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>>571050198
The fact Blazefags reduce her to her emerald connection to Blaze shows that this is more a Blaze issue if anything. I get the sense Silverfags would more readily accept him just being a psychic guy from the future with no direct or indirect connection to Sonic at all.
Blazefags seem more attached to her parallelism with Sonic than anything else and try to make the entire series just them both going super together.
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>>571048536
I liked how Amy got all possessive of Sonic when someone in the audience saying "I love you, Sonic". That was cute.
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>>571050529
Tails looks a bit tired?
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>>571050125
Blaze being Silver's mentor is the only thing that prevents it from being nega Sonic & Blaze.

Like "Sonic and Blaze work together despite being opposites" is the inverse of "Silver and Blaze work together because they're mirrors". Both butt heads to set up how they are either opposites/ mirrors.
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>>571050783
yeah but he's still idealistic enough to get swayed by a young girl's devotion (maybe you could argue it reminded him of his devotion to blaze if you want to argue shipshit considering you are my companion plays after that scene. if it was say, shadow it wouldn't really work as seen in the cosmo scene with sonic x. (the amy shadow is a special case in sa2 due to shadow being memory screwed there)
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Mental how the first sonic 3d game was also the only good one
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>>571051221
Sonic the Fighters?
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>>571050513
Shadow is dysfunctional as a rival and only works in SA2 when they're competing over being a faker. His narratives are unsuited for his role in the cast. Metal Sonic mogs him in every way on the rival front.
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>>571050451
>Blaze helps Sonic in IDW and Sonic Channel.
KEK only when Sonic is there to help her as well
She never helps with actual big events that needs the entire cast, she only visits for games and for vacations, the help is strictly one sided from Sonic while she just acts like Shadow.
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I masturbated all night thinking about Shadow again
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>>571051129
silver and blaze still have some opposing themes on top of similarities. regardless, i think sonic's wind and freedom theme really screws the chance of him being tied to anyone at all unless they follow him deliberately. it can work as parallelism but long-distance. while her love interest would need to be an amy-like character who pursues her and mirrors her in some aspects for that reason. (whether that is silver or some other oc they make, i dont care)
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>>571051221
Sonic 3d Blast?
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>>571051221
3D Pong?
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A lot of stuff about Silver is still indeterminate because Sonic Awakening was cancelled and ST doesn't want to explore his future or anything with him and Eggman Nega until he can get a game focusing on him. I don't think Silver relationship with Sonic will be defined until that happens either. The maddening part is Sonic Team holding off on all that for decades now but not doing anything to give Nakamura his Silver game either.
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>>571050451
>Blaze helps Sonic in IDW and Sonic Channel.
Phsyically
So does every other characters.
Blaze doesnt do anything for Sonic's character.
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>>571050991
Yeah, whoever was doing the Amy work that day, assuming it's not always the same person, was great.
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>>571050839
Because that is the pillar of her character. Read her Sonic Channel story.

>try to make the entire series just them
You're going to hate me but hypothetically you only need Sonic and Blaze because she's everything Sonic isn't. She subsumes every role of Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, and Silver.
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>>571051813
reincarnation is likely considering the ''nega shadow'' thing. but i won't say anything certain.
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Nobody is ready for this
Sonic and Silver dynamic are a Sonic and Blaze one but with Sonic being in character
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>>571049212
I wish I hadn't gone to look.
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>>571051414
>Silver and Blaze have opposing themes
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Silver and Blaze ends up being another flavor of Sonic and Blaze but when you make them conflict and/ or put Blaze in the bitch seat it gets even closer.
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>>571051352
>Metal Sonic mogs him in every way on the rival front.
He really doesn't because Metal Sonic will always just be an Eggman lackey. You cant have Metal fight Sonic in a way that tests him because the conceit of Metal's character prevents that
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>>571026406
Sonic Mania
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>>571052243
NTA but Heroes
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>>571050839
>>571051961
Blaze can't be anything without her ships
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>>571051129
Sonic Team doesn't care about overlapping dynamics. Silver's relationship with Blaze, Shadow and Espio are all very similar as "stoic people that counterbalance Silver and give him advice some times". Silver and Blaze being similar to Sonic is probably appealing to them because of that even.
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>>571051850
see >>571051961

People accuse Blaze of being "girl Knuckles" or "girl Shadow" but she's actually like both. Even the complaint that "Sonic spends too much time being Blaze's therapist" because she can also be like Tails.
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>>571051961
>Because that is the pillar of her character. Read her Sonic Channel story.
It isnt a pillar so much as a crutch.
Shadow is able to stand on his own as a character despite his dynamic with Sonic.

Blaze's oen is incredibly flimsy and yet without it she falls into a ditch.
She is an ill founded character and distancing her from trying to shill her as a Sonic counterpart would do her wonders.
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>>571046495
Holy balls, I'm wettening my pantalones at how different amateurmtl4life's deeplslop transition of the Jyaprenise muneroons
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>>571052180
silver is basically sonic + amy/cream by design sonic needs something to tone down the wind part to actually work romantically/any kind of continous relationship even without the romance part.
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>>571052502
Jesus fucking Christ is she anything original other then stolen character roles and shipbait?
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>>571051961
>You're going to hate me but hypothetically you only need Sonic and Blaze because she's everything Sonic isn't. She subsumes every role of Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, and Silver.
I already know this is the inevitable end conclusion of pushing this narrative with Blaze althea way Blaze agenda pushers insist, but at least you admit it.
My issue is how you dont see why this is problem.
Even Sonic's entire world and identity must be compromised to shill this idea of Blaze as a character
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>>571052629(me)
>>571052180

yes i am pretty much convinced silver was an attempt to create some sonic-like that could work longterm with blaze since sonic + blaze is very much writing yourself into a corner in eyes of windfags. it crashed due to multiple reasons but i am pretty sure that was the intent regardless of your thoughts on the success of it.
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>>571049590
Where's Silver?
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>>571051961
>Blazefag admits Blaze is a Mary Sue
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>>571052561
>>571052386
Look the franchise is called "Sonic the Hedgehog". The fact that

>people want Silver & Blaze to resemble Sonic & Blaze
>Silver and Blaze have no reason to exist without each other

just means you could delete Silver and spend all that time with Sonic & Blaze instead and nobody would care. Like they created an entirely new character just for Sonaze but worse.
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>>571051961
Tails x Amy x Knuckles = Blaze, but all four still have distinct roles from each other.

Tails wants to be like Sonic, Amy wants to be with Sonic, Knuckles wants to beat Sonic, and Blaze ... doesn't want anything from Sonic at all.

Blaze has Tails' insecurities and ability to keep up with Sonic, Amy's passionate emotions and mysticality, and Knuckles' stoic responsibility and Guardianship. But she is not a sidekick, she is not a love interest, and she is not a rival. Instead, she blends these traits together in such a specific way to be the direct parallel inverse-protagonist of Sonic. She is a lead hero of a parallel story to Sonic's.

Tails, Amy and Knuckles have their own stories and roles that Blaze does not fill.
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It was made by le evil Japanese developers who """""don't""""" understand Sonic even though they literally created him UNLIKE ME LE EPIC WESTERN FAN WHO DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING THEY SHOULD HAVE HIRED ME TO THE """""""""""""""MANIA TEAM""""""""""""""" TO MAKE THIS GAME WE KNOW BETTER SONIC IS THE MOMENTUM PHYSICS PINBALL ROLLING TO BUILD SPEED NOT THE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY THAT'S IN ALL THE ACTUAL GAMES NOOOOOOOOOO JAPAN KILLED CLASSIC SONIC SENOUE RUINED MUSIC FOREVER ONLY TEE LOPES KNOWS HOW TO MAKE REAL MUSIC PLEASE GET TYSON HESSE TO DRAW MEME FACES PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME A REAL SONIC GAME NOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>571053020
Stop copypasting this shit you retard, it's sad not funny
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>>571053003
He's not in Rush
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>>571052330
What about Heroes? He wasn't a rival in that game. He was a twist villain. And he only gets that done because he as 3 tiers of upgraded superforms, usurp Eggman and takes over his empire.
In practice, Eggman was the villain the whole game.
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Sonic Mania is IC
SA1/2 is OOC
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>>571052852
>>571052180
you can at least empathize with windfags on why they don't want sonaze even if you hate silvazefags, yes?
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I'm tired of Silver and Blaze discourse
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>>571049635
"Friendly Rival" is Sonic & Knuckles, and as you just said, Sonic & Blaze is not that. Blaze is not a sidekick, love interest, or rival. She is simply a partner / ally.
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>>571053137
Thank god...
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>its name is THE birdie, not Birdie
Everyone ignores this, because...?
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>>571053345
Too bad
Tanabata time
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>>571052852
I don't think it was intentional but yes the result of Silver being light Sonic and pairing him with Blaze is that Silver & Blaze are wholly consumed by being "Sonaze but worse" >>571053016

I think Sonic being the wind makes his relationship with Blaze cooler because they only come togethee sometimes and deliberately maintain distance despite both wanting to be closer. I think the magnet narrative/ motif (opposites attract but they also repel) is more poignant than the tanabata narrative/ motif.
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>>571053429
uhm Amy..? we can see IT
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>>571053016
>and nobody would care
Literally everyone except Sonazefags would care that the series revolves around Blaze now.
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There is no difference in being pretentious between a classicfag and jp/windfag.
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>>571052243
>>571053197
NTA, Heroes is where Metals' obsession with proving hmself as better than Sonic started and it established that Metal Sonic could potentially take initiative to improve himself. On paper, Metal has a drive and reason for improving himself to prove that he's superior to Sonic, even if it means going behind Eggman's back or undermining him (kinda like Bass, except without the 'turn on your creator to prove he doesn't need anything else' part).
But in practice, it doesn't mean much because Sega rarely allows him to be anything more than Eggman's lackey.
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>>571053197
This post ignores literally the entire point of his motivation in that game. His rivalry with Sonic is what led him to do EVERYTHING in that game.
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>>571053345
Then you better get ready because IDW is threatening to give them an arc with each other.
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>>571053676
See...what?
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>>571051121
Sonic's wife
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>>571053498
>I think Sonic being the wind makes his relationship with Blaze cooler because they only come togethee sometimes and deliberately maintain distance despite both wanting to be closer. I think the magnet narrative/ motif (opposites attract but they also repel) is more poignant than the tanabata narrative/ motif.
Nice job shackling Sonic's entire existence to your self insert/waifu
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>>571053498
>>I don't think it was intentional

things like silver being ''naive'' ''can't lie'' (cream is also naive and honest) as well as having overlapping traits design similarities with sonic/amy (similar shoes, and they also do the matched eye colors and eye shapes thing, his eye shape is more like blaze's than the full on tsurime like shadow) and having somewhat of a gender reversal theme going on makes me think the amalgamation of sonic+amy/cream is intentional.

>>I think Sonic being the wind makes his relationship with Blaze cooler because they only come togethee sometimes and deliberately maintain distance despite both wanting to be closer.

this is more material for an one-off like sonic/elise than a continous one like sonic/amy sonic/tails/knuckles etc. it might appeal to you but you gotta be reasonable.
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>>571053809
No I'm saying if all Silver & Blaze do is each other and people want it to be a copy of Sonic & Blaze then Silver has no reason to exist.
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>>571053829
>Heroes is where Metals' obsession with proving hmself as better than Sonic started and it established that Metal Sonic could potentially take initiative to improve himself.
It didn't because Metal only did any of that because Eggman upgraded him and Metal deemed taking over so he can beat Sonic thr easy way to fulfill his programming.

That works for making him a main villain (not rival, villain) in ONE GAME.
It doesnt work for a continously long term rivalry dynamic. Anytime they try to it always just comes off as Sonic playing with one of Eggman's toys because Metal cant be anything more.
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>>571054007
what a rascal, distracting her opponents that way
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Tell me about CHADwood
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>>571053925
You have 0 media literacy. Sonic and Metal dont have a rivalry.
Metal has a 1 sided obsession with proving he cant beat the thing he was based on.
What does this actually fo for Sonic by himself?
It doesn't push Sonic or test Sonic. Even if it did it would just funnel all the aura points to Eggman for making him.
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>>571054120
>>571054143
I think modern Sonic only works under certain constraints. The protagonists are Sonic and one other person he is windpilling, some rivals, and an antagonist. Tails and Amy as support but that's optional.

Rush, Unleashed, and Black Knight are quintessential Sonic.

Under these constraints Sonic & Blaze works fine.
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Dear Sonic,
I am your biggest fan! I think you're the coolest, good-looking, fastest thing on our planet! And we have a lot in common--I like chili dogs, you like chili dogs. I like speed, you like speed. I think you're cool and you think I'm cool. I hate Robotnik and you hate Robotnik. You have a cool girlfriend... I don't! That's the problem! Sonic, I don't have a girlfriend but I have a great idea: why don't you ask Sally to--I know this will probably sound crazy--to have a daughter and then that daughter will be my girlfriend!
Mark Cooper
Sydney, Fl
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>>571054007
>>571053429
We would have a fuckton less degenerate art if the lonely Japanese men who made Sonic Adventure didn't add undergarments
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>>571054234
Silver's reason for existing is to unshackle Blaze off of Sonic so his character isnt tied down by her emerald lore.
That would be the reason.
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>>571054610
>Sonic and Metal dont have a rivalry.
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To rape and kill, or to kill and rape?
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More characters with a drawl and taaaalk slooow liiike. Big is close but he's more like "chill guy smoking a bowl at 12am" energy.
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So what are you doing today, anon?
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>>571054919
To kill to rape and to rape to kill
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>>571054234
Not really on two massive missteps you did
Blazefags are instinctively going to die if they see Silver so in a sense no matter what happens with him and Blaze (copy or not) they would never want it.
Silver could exist without her in a better way, meanwhile if Blaze gets deleted she could be changed with proximately 6 different character, and everybody would like it more.
So if people want Sonic and Blaze, they should delete Blaze and go look for Sonic and Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Metal Silver or even with Rouge, since it's a better option to everyone
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>>571055036
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>>571055036
Going to class and then drawing pictures afterwards
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>>571054614
>Rush
Not really. Sonic doesnt actually do much windpilling. His friends do, which is fine. Its him windpilling by proxy sorrrrta but the main conceit of Rush is Blaze learning to open up ad except friends rather than anything about freedom and having an adventure.

SA1 is doing what you seem to think it is doing.
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>>571054968
Bunnie?
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>>571054614
>>I think modern Sonic only works under certain constraints. The protagonists are Sonic and one other person he is windpilling, some rivals, and an antagonist.

the people he windpills usually either screw off to never appear again or they get their own supporting cast consisting of sidekick adjacents, love interest adjacents rival adjacents tied to themselves. other than tails/amy/knuckles. you want blaze to break that rule exclusively for herself. now do you see why silver exists? regardless of what you think of its success or if you like it.
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>>571054414
>Metal only did any of that because Eggman upgraded him
Metal says that he did it himself
https://youtu.be/qKoDdBN5uwY?t=32
>I was created for the sole purpose of destroying you
>But I can never seem to defeat you. That is why I transformed my own body with my own hands
It's not "the easy way". Metal concluded that it was the only way.
>Anytime they try to it always just comes off as Sonic playing with one of Eggman's toys because Metal cant be anything more.
Because Metal Sonic is rarely given a relevant role these days and mostly just shows up for a boss fight.
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>>571054968
Wherr did you get the laser scope in the goddamn far west?
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>>571054873
Describe their rivalry. Its completely one-sided. And it should be.
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>>571054614
>Rush is quintessential Sonic.
Kill yourself Blazefag, somehow Sonic would not support his allies but would act like a therapist following this random chick who's endangering the world
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>>571055502
You say I have no media literacy. I say you have no literacy at all. We are not the same.
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>>571055036
Trying to beat a Doom 2 map called Goofy Ahh Rev Hallway when my ass can get back to my chair
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At this point of my life i hate both anime and western faggotry. Fuck both, i need to learn how to write.
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>>571055036
nothing, it's too warm
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>>571055502
Like do you even like this series?
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>>571055451
>Metal says that he did it himself
He is talking about his Metal Madness transformation. Not the Neo Transformation. This is self evident.
Eggman even says "Metal Sonic has finally transformed" implying Eggman set this up before Metal went rogue.
>Because Metal Sonic is rarely given a relevant role these days and mostly just shows up for a boss fight.
No stupid. Its because trying to debases the stakes and scenarios inherently.
Metal Sonic in the context of Heroes, is just a twist villain to have an excuse for a secret final boss.
Same as FreeRiders.

He isn't a rival, nor does Sonic fighting him add anything other than having a speedster battle, which isnt something Metal uniquely provides.
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>>571047153
really? that's cool
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>>571055705
>keyword equivocating.
Holy shit
Metal is not a rival in the narrative sense. No one said anything about gameplay.
Gameplayewise, Amy is a rival in Heroes.
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>>571055502
Do you even consume Sonic media? Or do you just talk out of your ass all day?
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What these threads are telling me is that Blazefags are simply way too fucking selfish and won't let any characters be themselves because they would easily overshadow her(and they might have actual schizophrenia with Silver)
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>>571055952
>there rivalry is [Stardustspeedway bad future recreation #46856]
Metaloser......that's not a dynamic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFVpO1mMGvs
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>>571047153
I do have a similar faction in my fic but that's actually pretty cool. Thanks for telling me.
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>>571056071
>another version of you
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>>571056180
>OVA
Everytime
>but
Ova wasnt even good.
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>>571055502
>>571056152
Like genuinely how stupid are you?
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>Blaze is bad and deserves to be in Silvaze jail!
It always comes down to this. Everyone is fine with disrespecting her character because they don't actually like her and because Silver needs Blaze they get shackled to each other.

They're both unsalvagable.
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>>571055970
>Eggman even says "Metal Sonic has finally transformed" implying Eggman set this up before Metal went rogue.
But then why would Metal say that if Eggman's line implies that this was the result of him upgrading Metal? It's no longer "transforming his own body with his own hands" if Eggman actually did it and the Overlord form was the expected conclusion.
>Metal Sonic in the context of Heroes, is just a twist villain to have an excuse for a secret final boss. Same as FreeRiders.
In both cases, it's still him hijacking Eggman's plan for his own interests. Metal Sonic's actions in both are fueled by his desire to beat Sonic. He has a motive to beat Sonic, one that occasionally leads him to go against Eggman's plans. But Sega doesn't do much with this trait so of course you think he isn't a rival.
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>>571056539
subjective
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>>571056564
Can you try engaging eith the substance of the point?
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>>571052034
are you implying Sonic is tardwangling everyone?
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>>571056708
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>>571056567
you are assuming blaze needs to be shackled to sonic rather than getting her own cast. i don't really care if she gets seperated from silver to get another guy in her dimension or whatever. even shadow the guy entirely made to be a dark sonic has his own cast seperate from being sonic's rival. tails is like the only character actually only about sonic.
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>>571056732
Look, if Sonic Channel's own official description of their rivalry isn't enough description of their rivalry for you, then you're beyond help. Which was obvious from the second you said they weren't rivals, you stupid motherfucker.
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We’re nearing 10 years
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>>571056908
Thanks.
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>>571056567
They're both perfectly salvagable.
It' just that Sega sucks at writing and neither are relevant so Sega just puts them together. Silver doesn't have a stable background or lore
>But ESP Sil
Silver doesn't have a stable background or lore and Blaze's dimension is too out of the way to make use of without dedicating significant time to it. So until either gets the spotlight again, Sega pairs them together with 06 memberberries and calls it a day. Silver is slightly more usable because time travel, but only slightly.
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>>571056708
Metalfags are constantly reliant on debasing every other Eggman creation and even other non-eggman creations as well as attributing traits from other characters to Metal to shill him.
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>>571056991
good times
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Hey girrlll!! *Shoves you into the wall*
Leaving without saying hello?
Where you going? *Smack smack*
You don't talk to normal people who don't wear Sonic furfag masks?
Where you going?
Where you going, skinny-ass latina woman?
Going back to the kitchen? You don't know how to cook.
*Grabs you by the throat*
This is why don't you have a boyfriend.
Who'd ever want to fuck you, slut? you'r titless, ass-less and your personality stinks as much as you don't take showers and your deodorant smells like a man. You stealing your dad's perfume, bitch?

C'mon loser, not gonna talk? not gonna talk?
This is why you waste time around the /sthg/ all day with other antisocial freaks like you?
Where you going slut? humping pillow with a mask and your dad's cologne again you freak?
You got a big mouth on the internet? not even? you're a loser there too?
Get lost and don't let me catch you whimpering about me on the internet or else.
I know where you live, coward.
Dunning Kruger syndrome retard can't even speak up in real life.
Bet you're so pathetic you'll attach a Sonic image to this text and schlick to it.
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10 years ago Krack named Gadget the Wolf... Gadget the Wolf
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>>571057074
yeah that's true but I don't let that take away my enjoyment of the OVA
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>>571047130
Mephilver is absolutely IC, Mephiles was made to corrupt the youth, he is a demon after all
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>>571056567
They disrespect Blaze because she needs to be shackled with someone and it's annoying, nobody cares about Silver enough so he took the short end of the stick and became her walking stick so she could walk, Silver is very salvageable but Blaze needs to stop existing first.
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>>571056974
I did read it.
Literally it just says the extent of heir rivalry is "speed".
Thats it.
Metal goes fast and they have a speedster battle.
It even says in that picture Metal Sonic is the only one that actually is obsessed eit outgoing Sonic.
That by itself doesnt make for a meaningful dedicated rival character.

Now if you wanna have a real conversation instead of doing the equivalent of posting a VsDebate wiki link like its a mic drop, we can.
Otherwise, buzz off?
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Oh SHIT. Alejandro found the /sthg/ general. It's over.
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>>571057357
Wow, I was just being a smartass when I said you were illiterate earlier. I didn't actually think you were incapable of reading a scant few paragraphs.
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>>571057238
When was the last time you watched it as opposed to just the fight between Sonic and Metal or the seen where he goes "there is only 1 s-son-ic-nic"?
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>>571056754
Being an inspiration to everyone, but he needs to be a tardwrangler specifically for Blaze
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>>571057504
like a year ago
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>>571056972
She needs both. Blaze is a tier between Core 4 and SSS. She is a deuteragonist with her own cast. She needs a hypothetical Team Sol as a parallel team to Team Sonic, like Rush and Rush Adventure (Tails vs Cream/ Marine). Otherwise she can bum around with the core 4.
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Men dont get periods but women will have to experience the existential horror of having to take a shit while you're still erect.
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>>571057490
>still not engaging
Okay dude.
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>>571057878
This is you deflecting. I gave several examples of Sonic willfully engaging with Metal as a rival. You haven't provided SHIT to say they're not rivals except that you say so. I don't owe you any more than this. Kill yourself, you waste of space.
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>>571057327
>>571057045
Silver is about Blaze.
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>>571057635
>Otherwise she can bum around with the core 4.
She can't though because she turns it from Sonic and Friends into Blaze and Sonic Pals.
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>>571056972
>you are assuming blaze needs to be shackled to sonic rather than getting her own cast
She does, blaze already has a fucking team consists of Marine and gardon but no one in her fandom gives a single shit and scream about her being mistreated and ruined and deserves the entire MC for her own only
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>>571056337
BOOOBIIEESSS GRABBBBB BOOOOBS GROPPINGGG ROUGE BOOBYYY MILKYY TITSS BIG TITS GRAB GROPING ROUGE MASS MAMMARYYY SUCKY SUCK SUCK SUCKING MOMMY BOOBIEESSS GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK MMMMMMM~~~ BUURRRRPPPPPPP TUMMY HEALTHY
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>>571056991
was Sonic angry in Forces even once?
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>>571057635
a character being centered around duty casually ''bumming'' around in a place not even her dimension will make eeveryone take her less seriously. i mean it can happen but not constatnly like you want.
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>>571056991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjC14kBqVs
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>>571058040
Knuckles would do this too if he was written correctly but he isn't. Blaze has to be dumped somewhere while she isn't doing her magnet/ Rush shtick with Sonic.
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>>571058050
gardon is a literal npc non character with the same face as every other koala npc in that one game. marine can work but she has less priority than literal idw oc's.
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>>571057967
Saving the future while being very optimistic to a fault and having a endearing sense of justice and very connected to hope while possessing powers that challenges Sonic, has nothing to do with Shitaze, and in fact Silver is much more better without that cheap knock off that is trying to replace our beloved friends
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>>571058328
see >>571058421
I don't care if she's a bum like Knuckles I'm just tired if Silvaze monopolizing her actual character.
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>>571058585
>that cheap knock off that is trying to replace our beloved friends
But enough about Silver
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>>571058421
No he doesn't though and never has because since his inception, Knuckles has never been a deuteragonist to Sonic.
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>Another fucking IDW OC
Why do they even bother calling it the Sonic comic?
You could take out Sonic entirely and almost nothing in the comic changes outside of Metal Virus.
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>>571058606
Boohoo silver cum in blaze pussy every night boohoo
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>>571058510
>Blaze doesn't need to be shackled to Sonic or Silver if she had her own cast
>has her own cast*
>wtf ew
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>>571058606
>I don't care if she's a bum like Knuckles. Knuckles isn't a bum though. Knuckles fans fought hard to have that fixed.
Look at your ass admitting to not actually caring about Blaze as a character.
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>>571058762
you can tell silvazefags really like the character
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>>571057967
Rivals (and Forces, but he's just kind of there) disagrees.
The maniacs in this thread don't realize that Silvaze is an impasse. Silver's future is at best literal apocalypse or generic sci-fi future and at worst, vague. Blaze is from another dimension, which was fleshed out a bit so it's not AS vague as Silver's future. Theoretically, Blaze could have her own villains, supporting cast, etc and Silver is more or less a blank slate.
But natures of their respective backgrounds means that they'll never get focus because they aren't relevant enough to dedicate time to said backgrounds.
Look at IDW. Silver came back because of the Zombotcalypse and is now stuck in the past. Blaze is written to have taken out all of the pirates and has so little threats (maybe Eggman Nega really is dead) that she can go to another dimension as a vacation. And now- Oh, what a coincidence, Silver and Blaze can now interact in a setting where their backgrounds basically don't matter because background-influencing characterization? Nah.
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US just signed a peace deal with Iran horrayyy World Peace babeeyyy! ! !
Sonic the Hedgehog would support this. Miles Prower would also absolutely support this.
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Playing Super Mario Bros. 1 really shows how much Sonic took from it's gameplay. The momentum physics are all there. Sort of. This kind of stuff really wasn't common in most platformers
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>>571058678
>"Lol its Silver being a knock off because i think so"
>"Anyway i think the guardian, brooding, love interest, princess, kick butt female, sidekick, unsocial, copy of Sonic should appear more because we don't have anyone interesting"
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I just realized that if the coffin guy is Starline and he's able to hypnotize the main Sonic cast, that means that Starline have absolutely no reason to make Surge and Kit or do the Bad Guys arc prison break.

Remember the only reason he made Surge and Kit was because he couldn't hypnotize the main cast. Evan just created a massive plot hole that Ian addressed and fixed years ago because she didn't proofread.
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>>571059019
Blazefags asked for that to happen though. They just wanted and expected Blaze to be glued to Sonic the entire time.
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>>571058876
most blazefags care more about hating on other characters or arguing with others than blaze's actual content.
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>>571059150
>momentum physics
People need to stop saying this.
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Do you faggots ever reply to each other or you're just as autistic and mute in real life as you are here? This place feels like a Discord voice call for Minecraft toddlers each hyperventilating trying to grab the mic.
Speak to each other you sperglords.
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>>571058764
gordon isn't team member material idk what to tell you
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>>571059092
Tails would just nuke the whole region of the world and be done with it.
That area of the world has had bloodshed going on for over 2000 years, literally. We are fools to think that it will ever stop just because of muh global economy.
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>>571059382
It's true though. Mario's just sliding around and jumping variable heights and bouncing off enemies and having air drag and this and that
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>>571059447
Okay. Hello.
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>>571059250
Did they? I hope you're not using 4chan threads (especially sthg threads) as your yardstick. By that logic, every character's fans are mentally ill enough that singling out one just become hypocritical.
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>>571059160
>you hate pancakes
>so you must love waffles
every time
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>>571059216
Were you not here when Whisper nor Tangle told Lanolin to remove Duo's gloves or Silver straight up lying to himself over what he saw back about 2 years ago? Evan doesn't even proofread her own comic issues.
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>>571059297
I talk about Blaze all the time here and everyone fucking ignores it. When I bring up Sonic & Blaze it's just "durr you're just a Sonaze shipper don't make it about shipping" but those same people would never want to take her away from Silver because they like Silvaze
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>>571059447
>This place feels like a Discord voice call for Minecraft toddlers each hyperventilating trying to grab the mic.
That's because it basically is. No one takes anything on here seriously anymore.
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uuhhh, computah? Make me another character spergout post
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>>571059650
>lol Xwitter meme
No nigga you're way too confusing because you confuse yourself.
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>>571059019
their backgrounds don't matter because the focus is on how special their relationship is on purpose
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>>571059550
Tails won’t even go after Eggman even after everything done to him
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>>571059768
a lot of these people don't actually care about silvaze or her being with silver, they just don't want sonaze. you're ignoring the windfag issue here. no one here tried to defend silvaze here other than the fact ''she doesn't work as a sonic love interest or just being tied to sonic ocnstantly''
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>>571059883
He's so cute and pretty and handsome.
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>>571059768
I fucking hate Blaze for making things always about shipping, i don't know what to tell you but sometimes if i want to piss Blazefags off i mention Silvaze.
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>>571060173
Talking about Amy, Rouge or Blaze always devolves into shipping
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>*Gulp*... Haa... huff... Shiruba-san.. P-Please marry me! Huff... haa... ditch that ugly stupid cat... she's doesn't love you like I do! .. Huff.. huff...I'll literally do anything for you, Shiruba-san! I'll make you happy Haa... haa... *sweats profusely*
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>>571060046
No they just don't understand Blaze and don't understand the current state of Silver and Blaze is their actual direction and not a stopgap. That's it. That's literally it. Everyone has been so mindfucked by not being able to compartmentalize shipping from what Sonic Team actually wants, even when Sonic Team wants "shipping", that they disregard all of Blaze's relationships and keep yapping about "exploring Silver's future" or "exploring the Sol Dimension"

Like nobody says this shit about Rouge cause she's recognized/ abandoned by team Dark/ Shadouge wank but people think for some reason Sonic/ Silver is a stopgap
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What's with Silverfags that love Silvaze but hate Blaze?
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>>571060635
Trad inceldom
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The shitposting in here is so stale and low effort. Fucking gross. Also stop replying to yourselves.
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>>571060018
Their relationship is an example of putting the cart before the horse. It isn't believable wasn't a character made for 06 who you could imagine had a close bond with Silver. If you're even vaguely aware of Blaze and her character in Rush, then her presence is going to stick out like a sore thumb, because questions like "why is Blaze here?" "How does she know Silver?" and "what happened to her when she sealed Iblis into her self and left for another dimension" go unanswered by the game and you get the overall sense that maybe they could've replaced her with a character designed for Silver. There's speculation that the plot was more tied to Rush, but until we see documentation relating to that, it just feels like an attempt to excuse how the game is themed around Fire and the Sun, yet Blaze only really matters for one cutscene.
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>>571059563
The term momentum physics is a term that makes anyone with any actual knowledge of game design wince.
Sonic doesn't have "momentum physics".
He has slope physics.
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>>571060717
It's funny that it happens at the same time everyday too
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>>571060632
with rouge she always was conceptualized as ''edgy amy'' (obvious when you see her beta designs too) do you want blaze to be an amy or tails for sonic
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Anyone else notice this Silvaze bullshit only starts during American hours and ends at the evening?
Someone's fucking unemployed. Also >>571060717. Stop fucking replying to yourself over an rgument you started with no one. You fucking faggot.
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>>571060717
I'm genuinely starting to think it's a bot.
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>>571060879
Remove the blazeschizo that recycles the same images and the thread will improve
Remove the tanabatafag that refuses to acknowledge anything else Silver does and the thread will improve
Remove the Silverfag that hates people not seeing Silver as cool and the thread will improve
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>>571060632
>Like nobody says this shit about Rouge cause she's recognized/ abandoned by team Dark/ Shadouge wank
Rouge doesn't have as defined a background. In SA2, she's a private investigator moonlighting as a jewel thief and while the private investigator aspect was dropped in favor of an association with Team Dark, it still kind of fit (especially with the clarification that Team Dark's alignment with G.U.N. more a case of mercenary work). Generally speaking, Rouge is flexible enough to be put into different situations.
Silver and Blaze have more defined settings. Silver is hard to justify being around unless something happened in the past or someone is threatening it. Blaze is hard to justify being around because travel between dimensions is difficult because Rings no longer do that. Both settings, being a different time and a different dimension, are also ripe for ideas in their own right.
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Sonic Soulslike
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>>571059160
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>>571061217
See what I mean. This shit feels like it's made by fucking AI.
Hey Gemini, ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe to bake a cake.
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>>571061395
I'm not an ai you faggot
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIu89DnWhkY
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>>571059768
I hate Blazefags trying to make the entire series and Sonic's character revolve around Blaze.
Her autism emerald connection eith Sonic isnt interesting and is jist a cheap way of trying to make her seem more important than she is.
I hate it for the same reason I hate Metalfags trying to shill him as Sonic's greatest rival. It caps the verse just to shill the character.

You will never get me to just accept that Metal os forever a true match to Sonic no matter hoe many new machines Eggman makes or what new ancient arctifacts he finds or ancient creatures he uncovers.
At the end if the day he is just a robot Eggman made. If he could just make something stronger than Sonic, the entire series has been a meme.

Same with Blaze. Sonic is supposed to be a free spirit going on adventures.
Blazefags want Sonic to be her cosmic boyfriend from another dimension who is in a StarWars Rey Palpatine force dyad relationship with him where every story is about them teaming up eith their emeralds to fight their eggmen together.
Fuck that.

I
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>>571061451
You fucking talk and act like one.
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>>571061350
>Sonic Soulslike
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>>571061378
>Replying to yourself
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silver sed 420 blaze it
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>>571061345
>she's a private investigator moonlighting as a jewel thief
Its the opposite....
She is a jewel thief who works part time as a spy.
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do these people really think sonic would have a successful movie franchise while the games would cease to exist?
no, they'd just change the direction yet again
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So apparently there's a drawanon from sonic porn general who draws random peoplenOCs getting raped, gangbanged, and emasculated, especially the male ones. What should we do about this information?
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>>571061706
>oldnews
>we
shut up
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>>571061706
submit more OCs i guess
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Evan completely ruined Silver with her Uwu shit
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>>571061673
I said it that way because I wasn't sure which would be considered moonlighting (as in, the game emphasizes Rouge as a thief, but one would assume her 'public' face is closer to a private investigator) but you're right.
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>>571061706
>one of the IDW artists are drawing stuff in the trash general again

Oh, okay.
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Silver needs correction, he can't shitpost like this.
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>>571061571
Where are his mastectomy scars?
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>>571062017
Evan did the final 15% after the community spent years mocking him and making him a fag after his Sonic 06 debut
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>>571061827
Well not everyone here is a jobless neet like you haha
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>>571061345
Rouge is Shadow's simp.

>>571060960
I want Blaze to be her own thing.
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>>571060874
I don't care about YouTuber "game design knowledge". And I'm talking about momentum really, Mario 1 has no slopes yet it still felt like Sonic to an extent. Sonic took a lot of design cues from that game

>>571060056
True!
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The last time I was on spg, some anon who totally wasn't AWF was throwing a massive bitchfit over Tails and Cream.
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>>571061706
Have they drawn Cigs?
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>>571062557
>embarrassed
>immediate projection
shut up
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>>571062584
if she was her own thing shed have her own cast instead of being shackled to other characters with more baggage.
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>>571062843
you really like this drawing huh
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>>571062843
No, I'll let them know. Any more pictures I can give to them?
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>>571062319
>one of the IDW artists are drawing stuff in the trash general again
pft if only. the trash threads would be worth checking if they were
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>>571061684
Zootopia is one of the highest grossing Disney films ever. How many Zootopia games do you know? Only movile slop at best
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MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Tails is great
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>>571062409
Evan made it all canon with is more than 85%
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In Chile there's now officially licensed Sonic vitamin water, with Knuckles being grape flavour.
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>>571062947
It's hot.
>>571063043
This one is my favourite and probably the best reference.
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>>571062941
I told you what I want her to be >>571057635

Sonic Team fucked with all the concepts surrounding this in SA2 and Heroes snd Rush but all it amounted to was a brain fart so all these character concepts and their direction are in disarray.
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>>571061684
Fuck, we're really stuck with generic ass open worlds now, huh?
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>>571062843
OCshit is off-topic. Fuck off
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Omega is Shadow's Knuckles
Rouge is Shadow's Tails or Amy or Knuckles idk who cares
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>>571063530
what's your goal with shitting these threads anyway dont you get bored.
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>>571063074
>He doesn't know

IDW artists hang out in /trash/.
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I'm going to Tails all over the place.
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For how long anon has to post this >>571063721 i don't even remember what's written on it anymore.
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>>571063702
I don't have a goal. I am here because I am bored.
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>>571063645
>The wolf pack fighting Drago as he falls to the Abyss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv_qryPwmig
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>>571062389
How do you propose we do this?
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>>571063961
Fox around and find out.
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>>571064080
maybe you should find something you enjoy then, you talk about silver more than most of his fangirls do.
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>>571063351
The most damaging thing to Silver's reputation will always be 06 because first impressions are everything, and Evan and others would not exist if not for that game's story and it's dub
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>>571063853
That sounds like it would be fun to mess with them
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>>571064179
Force feeding him asparagus.
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>>571053676
Only ONE thing to do about IT...! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcpPBFoBORM
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>>571062025
The reason Rouge is world famous in SA2 is for being a jewel thief.
Her working as a spy is a secret. This is something the dub messes up.
That said both aspects have always been a part of Rouge so her connection to shadow isn't exactly baseless.
That said, the majority of it comes from Heroes not SA2.

Blazefags, Tailsfags and Metalfags all have the same issue in that they are obsessed with shackling Sonic to their character and undermining him or the rest of the series to shill their character.
No other characterfags do this.
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>>571063853
I know about paps but my main point was that idw artists don't draw porn for /trash/. I know abt or one of his friends used to phantom drop his art from time to time
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>>571063853
He must think he's some kind of cool rebel when really he just outs himself as a huge gigasperg lmao. I'm going to fuck with this dumbass when we meet irl.
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>>571063853
loser behaviour
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I wouldn't mind being force fed asparagus.
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>>571063494
>Sonic is apple flavor
>Not Silver
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>>571062610
>Mario 1 has no slopes yet it still felt like Sonic to an extent.
By virtue of being an old-school sidescroller.
The slope physics is what made Sonic Sonic. Not momentum itself.
Did Sonic take cues? Ofc. Every platformer did. Megaman 1 had that shit too. It isnt some unique thing worth highlighting.
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But hey! He got his Sonic recolour OC to be canon!
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>>571064618
>I'm going to fuck with this dumbass when we meet irl.
Don't stoop that low. Let him bake in his own oven
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>>571064618
I'd advise against "Cow tipping" to use kiwi vernacular...But if you do, get it on video tape.
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>>571064618
>He must think he's some kind of cool rebel
No, he's actually very aware that he's a sperg and doesn't pretend that he isn't.
>when we meet irl
sure lol
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>>571064983
Being self aware just means you're extra gay and retarded kek.
"Noooo I own up to it!!!!"
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>>571063853
You guys do like about IDW creators just to make anons angry

>>571062017
Case in point
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>>571064708
No one cares about Silver
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tanabataschizo loves silver
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>>571065297
English?
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Paps unlike you I have a real job so yes
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>>571065593
Krack keeps on winning
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>>571064618
>when we meet irl
I hope you deliver.
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>>571063494
>Knuckles is grape flavor
Heh

>>571064708
That just means Silver drinks Sonic
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>>571065170
True, that's why I find slashy so insufferable.
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>>571065715
Silver drinks Sonic's "apple juice"
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>>571065593
It that my fwarking heroine Krack?
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>>571065263
Could you post the other ones? I love these images
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I think (you) should cum on Sonic
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>>571065593
>>571065679
Just having a different handle for art is enough to keep most people realizing it's her. Even if it's similar.
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>>571065980
I want to molest him and nibble on his ear
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>>571065980
Literally me every night
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>>571065715
>Silver drinks Sonic
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This thread is gettin' freaky
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>>571066123
Sega of America trains have no brains
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>>571066632 (me)
*trannies. Stupid autocorrect
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>>571066187
Fiona is this your doodling?
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Scribbles recently transitioned, you knew that?
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>>571066632
But you rhymed
Autocorrect has gotten completely retarded in the last few years though
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>>571067264
So?
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>>571067264
Who?
I don't care much about namefags
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>>571067078
I still don't know how people go online to say all their personal shit for any dramasperg to get ammos. And it's not just krack, every namefag left to right, i'd shut the fuck up.
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https://youtu.be/ku1zs1KsfSc
Muh Potentialbot
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>>571067264
Nakamura is gay, you knew that?
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>>571067630
Krack is the namefag who spergs about her personal issues outside of this place more than anyone else.
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>>571067953
No, i could compile a biography for every retard with a namea and it would be their own fault.
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>>571067630
Young people have zero resistance to the internet. They weren't raised to keep personal info sharing to a minimum.
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>>571068535
The internet also has more genuinely brain rotting effects then ever before and schools switched to whole language over phonics so young people are just illiterate now.
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>>571068832
DELET
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>>571068832
I didn't know Tails had a third tail
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>>571067078
What does this have to do with Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>571068832
>trying every tag for tailamy porn
>anon delivera better than trash
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>>571069192
Sonic?
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Nigger the hedgehog.
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>>571069068
"pēnis" is Latin for "tail"
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>>571067264
This is just completely false
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I AM TIRED OF OCS

I WANT THE MAIN CAST TO DO SOME COOL SHIT
NOWNOWNOWNONWONOW NOWWWWWWWWW
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>>571070705
Alota shot my dog
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IDW better end after reaching 100 issues because I can't take any more of it. Those comics don't even sell much. They're a liability for Sega and Sonic Team
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sociopath general
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National Sonicism
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Delete everyone except the Core 4, Shadow, Eggman, and Metal Sonic
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Why japs/westies hate the main cast and love ocs?
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>>571071286
Too much steak, not enough produce
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Delete everyone except Sonic, Amy, Eggman, and Metal Sonic.
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>>571071029
Aren't SEGA the ones getting paid from IDW for letting them use the Sonic brand? Why would they tell them to stop making comics, it's free money for them. It would be a liability for IDW, but I don't know how popular the Sonic comics are compared to the other stuff they do so idk
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IC
https://archive.transformativeworks.org/works/86847746/chapters/229904206
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>>571071593
It's IDW that pays Sega to use the Sonic brand but the Sonic comics significantly undersell compared to other licensed comics IDW owns
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>>571070924
this is completely true
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>>571071940
Why does IDW want Sonic comics so bad then?
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>Archie Sonic died for this
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>>571072205
Because they're just another small way for IDW to make money. Sonic is a really famous and popular brand so IDW sees value in holding onto it since Sonic is one of the few brands that still makes IDW money and IDW is hemorrhaging money right now
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>>571071029
>IDW better end after reaching 100 issues because I can't take any more of it.
>100 issues of comic book in the span of 10 years and nothing fucking happens
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>>571072494
>IDW is hemorrhaging money right now
No its not
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>new IDW artist likes coleslaw dog
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still a banger
https://files.catbox.moe/mqw6e6.mp3
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>>571072494
The money they donate to trump lol
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>>571073051
>fursona OC
CANCER
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>>571073051
is this the starline yume
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>>571073212
ye
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>>571073051
>They're giving writer rights to every drawfag on Xwitter
Guys, i have an idea...
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>>571072917
IDW Sonic comics are a massive waste on ink, paper, and money. Just get it done and over with and let it die already

>>571072937
IDW has been struggling for years and they've lost license to many brands. How they haven't gone out of business is beyond me

>>571073179
IDW's current owner is a zionist jew. No wonder
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>>571073480
I'm not using twitter just to write Sonic IC in a 100-readership comic
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>>571073051
good taste
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>>571073519
I think they will keep wasting more after the 100#, but the thing is the 100th will be a massive disappointment with shit artificial hype, like the rest.
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>>571073051
would
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>>571073051
It's her creator. SEGA owns Byte though.
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overdesigned ocs
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>>571073051
>Starline
based
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>>571073068
Sonic lost its Y2K edge just to replace it with kiddy slop, crossover slop, Tumblr therapy slop, and safe edginess for the sake of appealing to fujos, faggots, troids, normies, and game journalists
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>>571073975
>>571073975
>>571073975
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>>571068784
I was watching a video just the other day where people couldn't read basic sentences. Actual adults. It's crazy. The schools are fucked.
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>>571073823
fucking kek so she just made a recolor?
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>>571068832
I always miss these every time they get posted and the archive never has it since it gets removed so fast. What was it?
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>>571074285
you don't want to know...
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>>571074375
What, was it some animation of futa Amy pegging Tails or something? Whatever it is, I've probably seen worse.
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>>571073051
>starline
they're not even hiding it at this point
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>>571073480
It literally says colors and pencils, not writing



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