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Still waiting for Super AGDG Bros edition!

>Demo Days
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>Progress Posting Guide
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>Helpful Links
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>Previous Thread
>>570892307

>Sister Thread
>>>/bant/24523106
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Can we please do not mention AI just for one thread? Please.
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>>571025706
Visit the bant thread, it's nice >>>/bant/24523106
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>>571025706
Aw man, I wanted to ask about enemy AI again. Oh well.
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>>571025572
since you're a control freak who cannot even chill even after making your own thread in /bant/ i will AI chad post (im not the regular AI chad)
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>>571025902
disallowed. only human controlled characters allowed because marketing decided to call it AI instead of what it actually is
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>>571025934
KEKAROO
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anyone tried the newest AI? apprently its very good for gamedev
these chinese AI + their insane pop makes me thankful that there is a firewall between them and us, if you think the flood of games on steam is bad check again in 5 years
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>>571025847
I'm too thirdie for a flag thread
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>>571026052
>firewall between them and us
Dyson Sphere Program didn't care
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this is my first week as an AI chad gamedev on xitter without a premium acc and i already got almost 100 followers
when i win i will pay a janny to delete every pedo post in here
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>>571026031
Guess I'm making my new game PvP only then! This is all your fault!
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'dites are losing it
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>>571026224
>>571026052
Please stop.
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If anyone has just showed up after not being here for like a week or so and you're wondering what the fuck is happening, this general on /vg/ is now dead. Every new thread is being made by a psychotic troll (most likely but not necessarily the failed game developer "faggoon") who obsessively spams AI related memes in a vane attempt to demotivate yesdevs.
All non-schizo yesdevs have move to our new general on /bant/. Over there we have IDs so retards can be filtered. That's where actual progress and game dev related discussion is taking place now.

>>>/bant/24523106
>>>/bant/24523106
>>>/bant/24523106
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>>571026656
yes al pedophiles are encouraged to leave
>>>/bant/24523106
>>>/bant/24523106
>>>/bant/24523106
this is /agdg/ the amateur gamedev general and we talk about making games (with any tool, including Ai) and not which pedo cartoons you jerk off to
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Got items, inventory, and equipping the items working. Honestly surprised it only took me one evening to finish, now I'll need to add the secondary windows that work the same like the enemy loot window, bank, or whatever but that should be easy. The server database is easily tracking everything and transferring containers as well. Now on to the scary part before I do that easy stuff...
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All this talk about AI and I don't see it actually in action as a gamedev tool. If AI is so great, what have you done with it? I know what I've done with it, however little, but i'm not going to try tell anybody that they're making games wrong or being "left behind" if they don't. im willing to admit AI is a crutch, a crutch i'm fine using if It helps me do what I wanna do. What have you done with it?
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>>571026779
I'm not leaving I will stay here and work on my loli video game.
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>>571027686
you can do that, as a second class citizen to AI chads
we're not control freaks
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>>571027549
post game, you won't
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>>571028767
>hey post games you made with ai
>no you first!
lmao pottery, like a child
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>>571028881
ludcope
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>>571025572
I tried the bant thread but it was just too reddit with everyone being fake nice and too scared to say anything. Literally liqcord tier
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>>571028927
kekypow
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>>571028927
i can call you a nigger there if you want, just post there now
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>>571028964
What does that even mean.
>>571029117
Cba posting there again, they don't even give feedback or anything it's just here is my reddit screenshot and reddit post.
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>>571028919
lmaoooo so all that ai posting is just a failed larping nodev with no games?
HAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH fucking hell this is just too funny
i'm out, have fun being a fucking embarrassment nodev :)
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'dite meltdown
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>>571027549
I’m letting it write entire UI because I cba. Admittedly it needed a lot of guidance to settle on a reasonable architecture.
UI is kind of an 'ideal' case, because usually you can describe very easily what you want, even though it may require a lot of code changes to be implemented.
Meanwhile if you ask for game rules changes, you will usually make up some shit that cannot possibly work and then the agent will flail and implement complex BS. The more precisely you describe desired game rules, the closer you are to just doing the implementation yourself anyways, as code is the ultimate precise description.
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>>571029418
Always has been. The obnoxious ai poster is also on the bant thread all day under a French faggot flag
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ludmeltie alert
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>>>/bant/24525197
>>>/bant/24525275
This frenchie is based
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>>571031714
damn actual TRVKE its always about AI chads but never about the pedotroons
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Lolidevs make high quality games so I like them, simple as
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>>571026052
I tried it and I had to tard wrangle it to make Minecraft clone that rendered properly. Spend like 50 chink dollars on their free tier waiting 20 min and reprompting the agent to make voxel renderer with transparent water that does not unrender the voxel faces. After like 5 hours of tard wrangling it I stopped because it couldnt even do inventory properly. This is worse at making game prototypes then Gemini 3.5 Flash.
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>>571032058
pdfs get the rope
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>>571032094
Hope so, need more shibari games around
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how can I make a 3d model like this
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>>571034334
I reckon you could use AI for that.
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>>571031714
Samefagging frog faggot makes the same tired arguments daily.
>I'm not here everyday
He is
>Actually I'm here to fight pedophiles
I'm almost certain at this point he is also posting that garbage too and playing all sides, as well as samefagging as third parties pretending to support one or the other.
The French fag is also the only one in the bant thread using 'dite and generally bringing up constantly the antagonistic shit that created the thread in the first place, because he desperately wants to be noticed.
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>>571034334
>>571036880
im witht the frenchie AI chad youre the problem not the niggas making progress with AI
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said niggas making progress with ai: >>571028710

posting the same 10-20 inflammatory meme images that aren't gamedev discussion every single thread is not gamedev progress
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>>570965793
>hotline miami
ah, I see you're an anon of culture as well
>>570969616
>New weapon (Daggers)
nice!
>>570971119
>so it's high risk high reward
that's a much better choice, having meme weapons is worse than not having them at all
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>>571036880
you ludlost
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>>571037324
where is your game?
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>>571025847
How do I find this bant thread? Like without you posting it, I'd never know it existed.
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>Also, internally at Epic, we’ve been doing a lot of investigation to see what works and what doesn’t for code generation. We recently opened up pretty broad usage for code generation and AI analysis across our backend, engine, and game development engineering teams.
uh ludxisters?
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>>571038183
AI code generation is pretty terrible still.
Bun's port to Rust bloated the LoC from ~600k to ~900k, despite Rust being a more succinct lang than zig.
(And guess what language Epic are using for their new version control).
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>>571038183
TOTAL LUDDITE DEATH
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>>571038806
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>>571038806
fun fact: the most successful games ever can run on spaghetti code
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I find it hard to believe the "AI chads" are not just one poster. It's too much of the same shit.
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>>571038920
>objective case study of "AI" not being perfect
>still have a melty
Pierre...
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>>571039045
stinky luddite post your game
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>>571039901
this isnt the "gotcha" you think it is, since you never post YOUR game and always shit up the thread with constant ai spam
get a life, you pathetic loser
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>>571039993
ludseethe
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is there an AI that does model2model like theres img2img and vid2vid?
or like inpainting a 3d model putting a gun into a characters hand dunno
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>>571039045
it is, it's literally one "french" schizo. just go to /bantz/ it's extremely easy to filter him in every thread because he's too obvious
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>>571040681
I didn't know Fygoon was french.
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>>571037881
It was only talked about and first made a couple days ago. I guess realistically you'd only find it through people mentioning it here like with the Discord channel.
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>>571040561
yeah, kinda, but not in the clean img2img “mask this part and hallucinate correct topology/UVs/rigging” way you’re imagining; the public stuff is mostly text/image-to-3D generators and texture/remesh/rig helpers, like Meshy, Tripo, Hunyuan3D, etc. There is research on text-guided 3D editing / 3D inpainting, but it’s still janky and usually works on NeRFs, gaussian splats, reconstructed scenes, or very specific mesh formats, not “open my skinned game character FBX, add a gun into the hand, preserve weights, UVs, clean topology, collision, LODs, and make it production ready.” For the gun example you’d still use normal gamedev workflow: generate or kitbash the gun, clean it in Blender, make a hand pose, parent/socket it to the hand bone, fix fingers/intersections manually, then export; AI can speed up the prop/textures/reference, but “model2model inpaint this mesh” is not really a solved consumer tool yet.
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>>571027339
So I'm pretty pumped, I honestly have done like 90% of the work to get the project not only back to where it was before but also slightly ahead in a lot of aspects, and in under 2 weeks. The thing I thought was going to be really hard to do and a big hurdle (well really both) both got knocked out tonight. So now there's probably only about 2-3 more good nights of work left and I'll be able to share the progress visually again. So very possibly Sunday night.
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the funniest part is i literally never posted in the bunker, seeing the conspiracies is too much fun
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>>571040986
ty anon
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>new reply every 5 minutes
it's truly over.
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TOTAL AI CHAD VICTORY
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>>571042517
ke-ky-pow
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>>571042551
KRAKAPOW
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>>571034334
theres one guy i've been following in /3/ maybe you can ask him
>>>/3/1026427
also theres the anime thread too
>>>/3/1024994
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>>571043860
go back to the bunker
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>wake up
>check thread
>schizolud ramblings everywhere in both threads
For the 100th time, the spammer is American and a different guy. There is also probably a second French guy because I didn’t post in /bant/ yet.
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>>571040681
why are you spreading misinformation in the amateur gamedev general?
most gamedev use AI you gonna seethe about this your entire life or? stupid pedo 'dite!!!
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>>571044463
No every AI Chad is a single guy, he is also fygoon, joshua, the mayor, french, canadian and american, stop sprending lies!
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>>571026105
nobody cares about the flag as long as you don't go full retard
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>>571044463
Whats the ramblings?
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Im making a hover tank game with in unreal with blueprints and i want to add a tilt to the x and y axis when moving using the movement action value. I can achieve this but it ruins the smooth turning movement when starting movement from a standstill towards a new angle because I have to plug a yaw into the node. Is there any way around this with blueprints?
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>>571045282
Why use blueprints when you can use ai?
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>>571045282
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>>571026052
I think Chinese AI is overhyped compared to Murrica but I'm open to being proven wrong
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>>571045282
>with blueprints
Unironically nodev.
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>>571045657
im testing it, glm 5.2 seems very good so far (i only took the $70 a month plan) not as good as gpt 5.5 obviously
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>>571045524
I think the updated yaw value is being handled by the use controller desired rotation option in details which gives me nice options to easily change the rotation rate. Can I grab the value its outputting and store it in a variable somehow?
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>>571028927
>BREAKING NEWS: anon unable to handle people being nice to him
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>>571046159
It's unauthentic
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>>571046153
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>>571046159
thread IDS create a discord atmosphere.
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>>571046456
>>571046459
TRVKEYPOW
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>>571046456
>le discord boogeyman
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>>571046505
krakadowa
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>>571046564
Discord destroyed the internet
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>>571046729
this but unironically
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>>571046564
Whoever wants to be on discord can already be on discord.
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>>571046729
This but discord with the actual meaning of the word:
>a lack of agreement or feeling of trust between people
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>>571045282
Literally stop using BP.
Just create the class in C++ (which you can then derive it in BP because you love that dum shit so much).
Then unironically ask Claude to write what you describe.
I 100% coded that aspect of my game myself but someone who's afraid of code isn't gonna make it, luddites will seethe.
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>>571047063
That's exactly what it did. On top of that, it can't be indexed by search engines. Makes it much harder to get into new multiplayer games.
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>>571047308
discord ruined /agdg/ too, it let all the yesdevs pussy out and flee
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Proggy please
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>>571047308
Discord the software is great, I use it all the time to play vidya with my buddies
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>>571047675
its still in the oven thoughtbeit
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>>571047802
gpt 5.5 xhigh has been treating me well
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>>571046456
thread IDs don't persist across threads
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>>571046384
It seems as if I update the yaw at all with a node the smooth transition is unachievable
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>>571048000
Yes, but the thread lasts 2-3 days, which is still a chat room.
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>>571048064
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make bewildering progress
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>>571048161
and that's different from here... how, exactly?
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>>571048267
IDs create temp identities which poison unfiltered conversations
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>>571048416
Well, it's the best we have if we want to avoid spammers.
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>>571036880
>>571039045
>caring what country "they" are from
>caring how many of "them" there are
Is that even relevant? The "person" behind the spam is a literal subhuman meat sack who has been trashing this general everyday for 3 years... they are literally a biological chatbot. They might as well come from the center of the earth and there might as well be 20 of them, it makes no difference, they will continue to do this everyday for the rest of their life. There is no reason to believe otherwise. They aren't conscious, they aren't capable of change and their life must be truly empty, isn't that obvious?

Just be glad that you have a decently high IQ and aren't inbred enough to become like this "person" and leave it at that. Stop trying to figure them out. They aren't human. They have no soul. There is nothing to them. How do you think they ended up in bondage to AI like this? It's not just about "trolling" 4chan they are literally possessed, they are a literal golem. They basically set themselves on fire when attempting to make a shitty prototype with AI and have been short circuiting ever since. That was over 2 years ago now.

Treat them like any animal that makes random sounds in the yard and ignore them. There is no lore behind them, no deeper meaning. It's a biological chat bot. There are numerous low IQ ritual posting schizos like this on the internet.
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>>571048524
you can also avoid spammers by using 1-key filters in 4chan x.
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>>571047675
I posted proggy twice, in fact I made huge progress tonight. No one replied lol. No one here cares.
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>>571048534
>Is that even relevant?
Yes it's very relevant. If I see a French or Italian flag I take what they say seriously. If its a c*nadian flag I know its a looney tune character at best and a subhuman at worst.
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>>571048871
quote yer proggy I'm reading the thread and I'm not seeing it
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>>571048887
You're trying to funpost and deflect from the real point I get it, but the point remains. The spammer is not a conscious human being. It doesn't matter who they are or where they are from. They are literally a chatbot. Any chatbot script could replace them and we wouldn't notice. You shouldn't care where "people" who are that worthless come from.
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I'm gonna call the /bant/ AGDG BaggyDaggy
And the /g/ AGDG GeggyDaggy
And this one is, and always will be AggyDaggy
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>>571048416
the IDs are no different than using the name field retard
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>>571050540
yes, which is why 99% of the thread don't use the field lol
enjoy your quasi-name fag thread
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>>571048182
Im going to use the add rotation node and try to get it set up gracefully.
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>>571051110
oh no no no, lu-xisters our 'p-onse?
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>>571051110
Yeah I'm over here kekking. I admit it.
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>>571051110
krakapovv
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>>571051110
KEKYPOW
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>>571048416
>mad about not being able to impersonate other posters
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>>571051643
Wrong, I'm not. Also post game.
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Shitposting at work while Claude does everything for me
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>571051892
Huh so this is why you guys are addicted to shitposting. You even gamified getting (You)'s. Good thing I always disable mine.
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>>571047564
Good riddance. I don't wanna share a thread with those faggy retards
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>>571048871
It was probably shit because I don't remember seeing anything worthwhile for two threads now
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>>571048993
>>571041132
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>>571025934
>5 hours later
>not a single AI "chad" post achieved
lol
Someone posted this in the bant thread yesterday and it was more useful than anything you retards have ever posted.

Also the video where Thomas Brush uses Claude to make some changes, I posted that a couple times here and it's still the only time anyone has ever posted a gamedev using AI. Something just isn't adding up. Seems like all the real AI chads are just using it to make games. The real AI chads are on youtube making tutorials how to use AI in cool ways. There is an entire world of AI chads and you guys don't belong in that world and you know it. So you come here to larp and act like you're cutting edge and disrupting the snailcats or whatever gay reddit memes you've been indoctrinated with. But you're not even good at it. Same way you fail to larp as a gamedev. You have to really be these things in order to even know how to larp as one.

And you ain't.
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>>571051892
based based based
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>>571052976
ludcope
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>>571052976
pedofile 'dite melt as per usual
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>>571053212
Sorry little chadlet, truth hurts. Enjoy your 783rd day of clocking in to make bird chirping noises impersonating real chads. They are in the /bant/ thread now though. Nobody even hears you anymore. chirp chirp
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>571053618
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>>571051556
>KEKYPOW
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>>571052976
>online models
kekaroo
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the 'dites are RAGING today huh?
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>>571054203
they can't help themselves
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I ate an alleged 1kg (felt like less) of lasagna for breakfast/lunch and then took a 3 hour nap and now I'm all hopped up on sugar and caffeine. Time to get to work! Today I'll continue adding sound effects to the game. I have 4 types of speakers to test on and there's some construction going on across the street so it's not ideal.
102 days left. I owe 20 hours of work.
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>>571055496
ZAMN dis nigguh gonna be fartin like CRAZY
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>>571055496
That's some weird looking lasagna
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>>571055496
fat piece of shit
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>>571055649
I don't have those kinds of problems, but it could come in useful because I need to find an engine sputtering sound today. I was thinking of varying the engine volume programmatically (like choking it of periodically as the engine dies) but maybe a fart could do it?

>>571055884
The actual lasagna didn't look very nice, it's just supermarket frozen lasagna that I put some pepperoni and cheese on.

>>571056042
I'm only 7kg overweight, that's like 7 lasagnas.
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>>571056668
stop eating things cooked with aluminum, it's bad for your brain.
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just make Meccha Chameleon
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>>571056857
why did you have to remind me now I'm seething all over again
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You need to make viral hit streamer friendslop or diminish, perish, expire, SUFFER.
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>>571057459
>diminish, perish, expire, SUFFER
sounds like a cool title for a game
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>>571056857
>my head
Ghost In the Shell-like mechas that can climb anywhere but they're lizard like instead of spiderlike with a tail weapon and they have the special optic camouflage stealth technology
>google it
Oh...
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>>571056953
Can you imagine, making 10 million dollars in a single week? With a game you made in 3 months?
And it could have been you. It could have been me. It could have been anyone here.
Crazy to think about.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/wiki/getting_started/
>If you cannot use Google effectively enough to figure out how to download Unity, and find the Unity tutorials on their website then you will not make it as a game developer.
Do you sound like this? NGMI
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>>571055496
holy shit this is getting out of hand man
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>>571058043
>using google instead of ai
Uhh hello??
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>>571058043
Fact: Players don't care about how a dev sounds
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>>571056953
>>571057857
>>571057934
if you need lifefuel, the dev had 3 flops prior to selling 3 million copies of this game. if I told you I had 3 flops, you'd think I'm a shit ngmi gamedev
unironically just like make game
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>>571058291
I just looked it up. He released 2 games in 2025, and 2 games in 2026.
Meanwhile I've been working on a single game for 5 years. If I flop 3 times in a row I'm pretty much done for life.
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>>571058043
that's true, though.

>>571058183
google is AI now. if you google something you get AI results first and foremost.
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>>571058653
lu bros how do we cope with this
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>>571058643
well then less effort, less polish, more wacky out-there ideas
I wish I could do that but my game is very conventional because it's the game I want to make and I can't make innovative friendslop but maybe it's not late for (You)
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>>571025572
what kind of sfx is biff and how is the fox blasting the girl away
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proggy
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Unfortunately, the new 5.8 motioncap works incredibly well.
https://files.catbox.moe/sbdq1a.mp4
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>>571059124
woaw how many wishlists already?
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>>571059076
It's a classic comic punch sound, used in the old Batman for instance
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BACK IN MY DAY, we used to call enemies in videogames "CPUs".
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>>571055496
Are you german? Ive seen those exact donuts, berliners and poppy seed cakes before. Even the lasagna reminds me of something i used to eat at my parents place. If you live near Berlin id bake you cakes as i need somebody to train my baking with.
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>>571060151
what was ww2 like gramps
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I thought things would simmer down after a day or so, but no. People are really melting down after the Unreal blueprints announcement. Can't believe so many were relying on that bloated crap. It's a crutch, and a shitty one at that.
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>>571060572
And Verse seems like it's never getting decoupled from UE, so no chance for that alternative.
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>>571060852
Why would verse be decoupled. What? It's the engines scripting language. An ACTUAL one that can be diffed and versioned correctly. And it works better with AI. That's the subtext here - this is another form of subhuman luddite cope.
Even Epic's official response to people whining is "learn 2 claude", which is honest.
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>>571061198
Because it's just an LLVM-lang like any other.
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>>571060572
lol no, Blueprints has a negligible effect on performance, every year at Unreal Fest they try to destroy the "Blueprints aren't performant" myth but retards like you keep calling them bloated (they're not).
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>>571061398
Any argument at all for having BPs can be countered with "AI exists". The game has changed but there are some who can't accept it. Visual scripting is unironically deprecated.
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>>571061616
But AI helps me just fine with BPs. Are you arguing we don't need visual scripting because we can vibe code and ask Claude instead?
That's fucking horrible.
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>>571056668
That lasagna looks fucking awful. Is that pepperoni? In an aluminum tin? You must be in UK, based entirely on your low standards for what you put in your body.
102 days left and you will likely not survive long enough to see it.
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>>571061616
It's not an argument at all. The reason why they're mentioning AI is because they mad that they can't use AI to generate blueprints as well.
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>>571061616
ComfyUI uses visual scripting
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>>571060572
>Fortnite Engine 6
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>>571060572
>>571061198
You tried to get AI to help you make some slop with blueprints, you couldn't do it, now you seethe about blueprints and attack it along with the "luddites". I notice you using words like "crutch" and "subhuman" too, immediately after other anons used it. Do you have a single original thought, and do you have any opinions that aren't based on seething from failure to make a game?
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AI bros on suicide watch

https://youtu.be/kRxSaes0a2s
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>>571061713
>Are you arguing we don't need visual scripting because we can vibe code and ask Claude instead?
Yes. That is the issue, he wasn't able to use AI to make a blueprint game, Claude can however write the C++ scripts for UE, which he doesn't consider a crutch. He's trying desperately to look down on people who use blueprints as inferior. Just another flavor of nodev cope.
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>>571060572
all 'dites, AI Chads are happy coz verse is built for AI.
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>>571061713
Visual scripting should be used by children to learn fundamentals. Adults use C/C++
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>>571061713
>But AI helps me just fine with BPs.
That's because you know what you're doing. This other guy uses words he doesn't understand like "deprecated" to describe a feature that might be phased out in a couple years.
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>>571063127
Really? Cause they used Blueprints in SH2 Remake and FF7. Weird how these industry professionals recommend a mix of both. I bet (you) know better LMAO
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>>571063220
Yeah those blueprints are made by artists because they shouldn't be touching the actual code. It is for babies and that's the entire intention of blueprints.
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Why are zoomers like this? Tim already said Verse is coming with better visual scripting that will translate 1:1 to Verse code. Also this is years away, you have time to finish your game using blueprints if you insist. Of course you are never finishing a game lul.
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>>571063127
>Visual scripting should be used by children to learn fundamentals
The only case where that is feasible is with Scratch. Nobody should be learning programming with blueprints lmao blueprints are very arcane.

The best engine and language for beginners is C# in Unity.
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>>571063459
The best languages are Claude and Codex.
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>>571063432
I like playing cards so I like playing cards in video games. Simple as
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>>571063368
>Yeah those blueprints are made by artists
You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. For a game being developed by a team large enough to have artists and stuff even touching blueprints, it will be the engineers who program the game and then extend functions through blueprints so level designers and stuff can use them.
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>>571063680
>it will be the engineers who program the game and then extend functions through blueprints so level designers and stuff can use them.
Yeah that's exactly what I said. Not sure why you're disagreeing with me. Level designers fall under "artists"
>You seriously have no idea what you're talking about.
Then you don't either I suppose.
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>>571063384
He's trying to wear his big boy pants today.
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IT'S UP
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>>571063905
polycode binaries? finally...
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>>571063856
>Yeah that's exactly what I said.
No, you said artists are making blueprints. No they're not. They are taught how to do certain workflows to enable functionality of stuff when appropriate so they don't have to bring 20 requests to the programmers everyday and can just snap in features themselves, the engineers make the blueprints and show them how to use it.
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>>571064130
Oh shut up retard. You're in midwit alley now.
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>>571063432
He really hit the nail on head on how we were just about to finally leave the shitty deckbuilder era but then Balatro dropped and we started anew.
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>>571063680
>>571063856
https://youtu.be/S2olUc9zcB8?si=nERK75YRu8thErZ5&t=344

Blueprints aren't "bloat" they're incredibly performant, every year they mention it at Unreal Fest but retards like (you) keep regurgitating nonsense.
Blueprints are great, and a mix of BP and C++ has always been ideal. Hell, Exp 33 was nearly 90% Blueprints, go watch the interview with the lead dev.
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>>571063142
How do you die in a single day. If you get lost just stay calm. People really need to learn that you can survive for weeks on body fat and muscle. Just find some water. Don't exert yourself. Relax. And use AI if needed. Like I get he probably fell or something, but I'd assume he was probably in a frantic state. Just relax bros. One time I thought I might get stuck on a mountain and I just accepted it. Like ok, I'm going to sleep here, might get a little chili but I'll live. Luckily that didn't happen but I accepted it.
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>>571064235
You're so enamored with the romantic idea of writing code that you're shitting on blueprints and visual programming out of insecurity. You are the baby here.
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>>571064403
More midwitism. I didn't say anything about bloat that's on you.
>>571064513
You're a midwit because you're stuck on what AAA developers are doing in teams of 100 plus people and focusing on details that you should not be. I'm going back to working on my own engine now. You are stuck in the worst possible category of intelligence. Average.
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>>571064403
>Blueprints aren't "bloat"
I never said they were, not sure why you're replying to me.
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>>571064805
Well some retard called Blueprints bloat and I'm here to correct that.
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>>571064803
>I'm going back to working on my own engine now.
You mean having Claude make an engine for you right? Yeah, thought so.
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>>571063368
Right. Blue prints are made for codelets. And codelets have their place of course. But as a programmer I don't really give a shit. I'll just make my own tools for non devs to use. The world was just fine without blueprints.
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>>571063432
would be cool to see card games visually represented more like tft. Games like hearthstone and shadowverse do have animations and stuff which adds a lot to the experience to be fair.
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>>571065020
>You're so enamored with the romantic idea of writing code
>You mean having Claude make an engine for you right?
Am I writing code or am I using Claude? (YOU) DECIDE!
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>>571064403
That's great. Blueprints are still being deprecated doe.
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>>571064987
relax timmy, they're going away anyway, and everyone is gonna love your new programming language :)
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I'd argue 90% of tutorials are Blueprints and 10% are C++.
>You don't need a tutorial if you use C++ cause you already know what you're doing!
You're a fucking faggot Blueprints are far far more supported, that's fact.
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>>571065369
literally all of this is solved with AI
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>>571065472
I'll solve my foot up your ass
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>>571065537
snail kitty so tired from writing code by hand
yawwwwwwwn
rest easy snail kitty
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>people are using unreal as a solo dev
ngmi
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>fails to make even a simple game in Unreal using AI
>acts like he's an expert about it now with many hard opinions on methodologies and what direction the engine is going in the future
lol
Make a game first champ. You're way ahead of yourself. You shouldn't even be paying attention to these things.
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>>571065947
what color are you going to dye your hair this weekend
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why is this guy talking to himself
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the fr*nch either channel their inherent schizo into kino, or they succumb to it
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>>571065192
Tim destroyed his engine's reputation. Unreal 6 is going to be the kiss of death for games. Unreal Engine will be deprecated.
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>>571066185
That's right champ let it out. Give a nice hard cry and then back to your spamming routine.
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>>571066910
I despise Timmy boy for his lack of common sense and despise Unreal but people have been saying this since Unreal 3.
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>>571067576
People used to blame Unreal for a game looking like plastic but I've never seen so many people blame it for poor performance, glitches, and the state the industry is in as a whole. Going all in on AI at a time when most gamers hate AI is obviously not going to help. Anyone making their game with Unreal 6 will be accused of using AI even if they didn't. No serious (not AI slopper) indie dev will accept that risk. Only AAA and slop shovelers will use Unreal 6 for that reason alone.
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>>571067576
3 and 4 were shit but tolerable. 5 then started disgruntling normalfags. Then the AAA decided to mass-adopt it, and disgruntled everyone with samey-looking games that all ran like garbage.
A few years into 6 you're gonna start hearing about AAA studios discovering the "secret" of writing their own engines again.
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>>571068089
Not saying that will happen but if it does maybe Source 2 will become a big deal
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>>571068089
Unity is integrating AI. Blender too. Every tool gamedevs use will have AI integrated.

This makes nodevs like the spammer excited for some reason despite it having no relevance for them. And this makes other people think there will be some kind of stigma about AI around the tools. That's never going to happen. Faildevs will continue to fail to make games with AI regardless of what tools, engines or AI models they use.
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>>571064474
'dites, 'nuff said
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>>571066910
Because it requires programming? I didn’t realize how degenerate you all were.
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>>571068574
ludcope
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>>571068089
Oh fuck off lol.
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>>571068291
>you're gonna start hearing about AAA studios discovering the "secret" of writing their own engines again.
Delusional fantasies. I'm really amazed at the disdain for working professionals too, who you just call "AAA". Implying they just stumbled into using Unreal and aren't using it for numerous specific reasons.
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>>571069141
>reply to copypasta
your new is showing
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>>571069141
Bro i swear, just 1 more GAAS, we're professionals, it'll work this time!
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>>571069141
The numerous specific reasons
>Indian outsource studios know Unreal
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>>571069259
Copypasta from where?
>implying you're some kind of OG
Get a life weirdo.
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>>571069141
My brother in Christ its actually you who is delulu. Take an honest temperature check of the state of the industry. Change is coming and its coming fast.
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>>571069396
Stop doomering and thinking short term. All the idiots pushing barely finished and polished games are simply contributing to the doomerism. There are already several thousands shitty games being released per week, that's not the future, it's already bad. Releasing another one and pissing in the ocean won't help you. Do your best work instead dumb benchod.
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>>571069396
Projects for every engine get outsourced. You're really struggling to make a single cogent argument, surprising nobody.
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>>571069687
>Do your best work instead
crab advice
minimum effort wins
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>>571069396
I hate Indians so much it's unreal. They lower the quality of my life by existing. Look how they massacred my boy.
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>just make a shitty viral streamer game to become a billionaire bro
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>>571069820
My uncle works at Valve, what about yours?
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>>571069935
>Do your minimal work instead
crab advice
maximum effort wins
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>tries to have a serious discussion about thing
>can't get a foothold with a single one of his incorrect opinions
>starts devolving into nonsensical replies
Only pretending to be retarded!
And he will be back to spamming after this, having learned his lesson to just keep his opinions to himself. For now.
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>>571069820
Outsourcing in the past was Dead Space contracting a boutique sound studio to make creature sounds.
Outsourcing today is 70% of development being done in India / SEA, while the westerners make the the marquee things.
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>>571070236
So it may be better to keep development hidden until the game is more substantial? So you don't have to go through the humiliation of apologizing to your fanbase for taking so long because you had to rewrite your code for the fifth time, and development has been pushed ahead yet another year?
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>571070348
lol he fired up the spambot again. Our little guy is so upset that the real gamedevs don't agree with his epic takes on game engines that he can't make a game with. So cute.
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troll
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>>571070269
>outsourcing is a thing
Yeah.
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>>571070789
>missing the point
Outsourcing used to be about combining specialized talents.
Now it's purely for cost-cutting.
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>>571070789
one of many reasons AAA will be flushed down the toilet
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>>571063856
Level Designers are not artists. They are credited as Level Designers in the credits for games. The work they do is more technical than the artists as it takes place within the game engine itself and uses things like blueprints to extend functions to things, or in other engines they are taught how to apply scripts and make the right references in the actual programming.
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>>571071423
who gives a fuck, they are all getting fired anyway
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>>571071423
Bro he’s clearly lumping them together in a category of non technical people. Stop nit picking.
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Unreal Engine is a beautiful engine, I'm looking forward to the next ICO/Shadow of the Colossus game being made in it. Pikmin 4, Mario/Luigi Brothership, and Yoshi's Crafted World were made in Unreal. The 5.8 changes were big, as the Switch 2 can finally utilize Lumen now.
Expect more Nintendo games in Unreal, and in turn more positive perception as players realize it's shitty devs making shitty games, not the fault of the engine. Hell, Exp 33 was Unreal and it was game of the year. Utilized Metahumans and Blueprints. Lies of P, too.
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>>571070964
>missing the point
The point was we were discussing Unreal Engine and somehow found a way to make it about indians.

Mindbroken.
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>>571071658
Nuclear levels of cope.
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>>571071505
ai chads just keep wiinnin
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>>571071658
>Expect more Nintendo games
idk, they seem to really be struggling with this basic thing lately.
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Unreal having the power of the GAS and AI make it unstoppable in AAA gaming quit coping
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>>571071571
>non technical people
Level Designers are technical people. Construction is a technical work.
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I don't know if you guys noticed this or not but Tim Sweeney the CEO of Unreal is bald
hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>571071892
GAS is fundamentally C++, if there isn't a clean transition into Verse for 6.0 I'm not using 6.0 because GAS is the best thing ever
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>>571071658
>more positive perception as players realize it's shitty devs making shitty games, not the fault of the engine.
It has been fascinating watching gamers educate eachother in the comment section of youtube about how optimization of a games performance is up to the devs. Within a year the hype train for hating Unreal Engine died off and you no longer hear any zealots ranting about it.
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>>571072036
Do you use AI?
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>>571071505
>>571071761
Show us how AI would be used right now to design levels for a 3D game.
You won't.
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https://godotengine.org/releases/4.7/
IT'S OUT
YOU SHOULD MIGRATE YOUR PROJECT
NOW
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>>571072465
>Like a cult classic movie, Godot 4 has only gotten better with age
Juan....
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>>571071963
shut the FUCK up kid
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>>571071892
>>571072036
Sorry unreal chuds you are not needed anymore. DEPRECATED
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>>571072465
>asset store
the era of godot asset flip slop has begun
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>>571072717
she's skinnyfat and grossly unattractive and if you shaved her head clean she would have zero feminine features and would look like a chud
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>>571072642
>have to ask to change something
cuck code
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>>571071907
Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot. What you do is not any fucking harder than using Photoshop to a high degree. Designers == Artists.
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>>571072924
Its gotten so good at updating docs, you have no fucking idea. Its too good to be true, really.
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>>571072819
>if you shaved her head clean
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>>571073167
bald chuds are my fetish :3
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>>571073167
if a woman loses her femininity with being bald, she's a womanlet
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>>571072717
What happened with their gamejam?
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>>571072963
Level Design takes place directly inside the game engine. You're comparing it to Photoshop artists. Using words like "harder" as if the topic was what is more difficult.

Calm down kiddo. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>571072642
>>571073119
Where is the videogame?
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>>571073692
You’re embarrassing yourself acting like you’re in a technical role because you know how to find a variable in a list of variables. You know how to select a method name lmfao. As if that’s technical, but creating art in Photoshop isn’t. I could teach someone your job in 1 day. It would take months to teach someone Photoshop.
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>>571073836
I'm not starting the game until everything - and I do mean EVERYTHING is planned out. Every little scenario and edge case. Every map enemy upgrade, you name it. No more getting halfway through the project and then burning out. Not this time. AI has given us far too much power to still be playing around like pigs in shit. Time to grow up and get serious.
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>>571074238
>No more getting halfway through the project and then burning out.
Do you really think having a 100% roadmap is going to prevent burn out? The best cure for burnout is to take a vacation or do something new with your game, which you won't be able to do because you already let Claude fabricate a stack of documents for you and you're committing to it.
Burning out or dropping projects is healthy and normal.
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>>571074803
Been there done that. Leaving that e-celeb cope lifestyle behind.
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>>571074108
>As if that’s technical
It is.
>but creating art in Photoshop isn’t.
That is too, but it takes place in Photoshop, not the game engine and the literal game project.

Level Designers are credited as Level Designers. Not artists.
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act like a snailcat
think like an AI chad
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>>571075023

Again, you're a fucking faggot wasting everyone's time. Nobody gives a fuck what you're credited as. That wasn't the original posters point. This is why you're not a dev, you're stupid and can't follow what is logically being discussed. Muh credits lmfao. What a fucking idiot.
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>>571075754
gotta be some simp that thinks he will work in AAA some day
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>>571075754
You know what the best part is, I'm not a "level designer" I'm a full gamedev. I just know what I'm talking about and you don't, that's all. Don't sweat it. Oops too late.
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Anti-Unreal talking points are propaganda.
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>>571072717
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truedev status?
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>>571076234
A) fuck chinks, fuck tencent
B) fuck deferred rendering, fuck pbr, fuck vaseline and motion blur, fuck lumen, fuck nanite and fuck all forms of modern graphics
C) fuck bald cucks like tim
oh yeah, and fuck the epic game store
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>>571076537
this is delicious
after years of calling idea guys nodevs were actually the most valuable part of gamedev now thanks to AI
someone like cris is worth millions in ideas
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>>571075872
I'm just so sick of these mother fuckers who nitpick everything while missing the fucking point. They fuck up every god damn meeting. They fuck up every project. I hate them. I hate them so god damn much. "Well technically artists and designers are credited differently..." STFU
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>>571043860
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the soul of most games is in the R&D process desu
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>>571076629
>someone like cris is worth millions in ideas
nature is healing
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How much do you have to modify someone elses 3d model before you can say it's yours?
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>>571076818
About 20% of verts.
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>>571076637
Level Designers will have access to and use Blueprints. Not 'artists'. There's no reason for graphic artists and visual fx people to be ever using blueprints.

Look back through the replies and you will see that this was the actual discussion into which you inserted your meltdown.

You could not train a level designer in 1 day by the way. Maybe with your unfinished tutorial project, but real level designers are trained to do a large list of technical things in the actual engine. They are only one step removed from the programmers themselves.
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>>571076818
>import their model
>ctrl-a del
>model is now destroyed
>ctrl-z
>model is now created by you and yours
it's that easy
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>>571076629
AI can come up with better ideas than (You)
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>>571077007
only in the hands of an AI chad with high verbal IQ from brahmin genes thoughtbeit
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>>571076818
AI proves that copyright and IP laws are fake and gay so barely at all.
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>>571077007
>ripping off that one failed MMO
maybe next time sweatie...
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>>571076818
If you're considering stealing other people's work then you're already making a game nobody cares about so who cares.
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'sponse?
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>>571077551
Posting ecelebs now are we? Someone is going to freak out and cry about it all day now. Oh wait, that's you who does that.
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>>571077314
>vampire survivors but you're a potato
>harvest moon but on PC
it doesn't have to be an original idea to be a good idea
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>>571076910
Maybe in your AAA dreams you faggot. In indies people have multiple roles. Artists, devs, both do design. So go fuck yourself.
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>>571077775
You can not train a level designer to work with your game in 1 day unless it is, as already said, some unfinished tutorial project, which for you is probably the case, which is why you have no idea what you're talking about. Stop being angry anytime now.
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>>571077965
The moment Gen AI is good and cheap enough for dynamic questing and world gen, nobody is going to give a FUCK about ethics.
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>>571077659
had no idea it was an eceleb since its the first i saw xir ugly mug telling hindus to make vampire shartvivors clones in big 26 thoughtbeit
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>>571078163
we've had dynamic quests and world gen for decades lol
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>>571078112
I can teach an artist how to use a tool designed for infants far sooner than I can train some design monkey art or programming.
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I don't understand gamedevs cheering AI on. how is it not going to replace you? who's going to want to play your game when they can prompt their own games? or do you imagine AI will stop advancing just at the point where (You)'ll be indispensable?
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>>571077965
the guy that stole an entire game and stole all the sprites from castelvania is crying about AI
lol
cant make this shit up
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>>571078347
Shut up bicht I fuck you
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>>571078347
skill issue
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>>571077417
holy TRVKE
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>>571078347
>dude fusion is JUST around the corner!
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>>571078318
No we don't you fucking faggot lmfao. Are you designer talking again?
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>>571078525
define dynamic quests and world gen at a high level
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>>571077417
vampire survivors
shartdew valley
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>>571078610
I shouldn't have to, unless you're a fucking retard. Are you a fucking retard?
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>>571078347
>he thinks the AI spazz is a gamedev
Silly
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>>571078720
because you're afraid of defining examples that already exist in games lol
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>>571076629
AI Chads just keep winning
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>>571078525
>HEY WAIT A MINUTE ARE YOU THAT GUY AGAIN
Nothing is funnier than watching someone say incorrect things and then go schizo mode when multiple people disagree.
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>>571077965
>stealing assets
>I sleep
>using AI
>reeee
why are they like this
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>>571078347
You could hate it with every fiber of your being but it won't change the fact that its not going away and is going to continue to get better. You can make use of the tools now before they're good enough to replace you or you can cry and get outcompeted by those who do.
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>>571078879
So you're a fucking retard who needs basic concepts spelled out to you. You can't even envision an example of AI taking gaming to new heights. "ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY WE'VE HAD unlimited quests for decades where NPC's task you with collecting cheese wheels for them in return for 50 gold. And next week they'll ask for apple, all dynamic, CHECKMATE!" This is what I mean, you're a faggot. Your game is going to be some derivative piece of shit because you can't think. You don't have a soul.
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uh oh frenchy melty
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>>>/bant/24527644
krak-a-powa
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>>571079086
I asked a question faggot. Nothing I said was incorrect.
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>>571078610
I would also like to hear a definition, although you're the one who said they already exist. What is an example of

>dynamic quests and world gen

?
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>>571079174
It's not a competition though
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>>571078347
It's a tool. You use it when you want to or when you need to. How is it not a positive from an indie dev perspective?
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>>571079386
Look I'm not going to waste my time talking with you.
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>>571079418
It is. 400 games a year get promoted on steam, you're objectively competing for one of those spots. That's just how steam works. Good luck selling on other stores tho lol.
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>>571079386
>the moment AI gets REALLY GOOD (in 2 weeks) NOBODY will have ethics or morals!
Yeah that's incorrect. What people like you fail to recognize is not everyone has the desperation or need to compromise their ethics to make money or even to just make a videogame.

I will never make an AI slop game because I don't want to and more importantly, I don't have to. Feels good.
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I killed 20 german cockroaches and sweeped 15~ today.
and I thought normal cockroaches were bad, once upon a time. life is shit in this apt but I'm stuck here for the summer. can't look for apts in this heat. so raped.
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>>571079454
Did you just imply AI has benefits???? What about all the trans artists it is stealing from? BIGOT!
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>>571079404
>>dynamic quests
Have been a thing in RPGs and MMOs since the late 90s.
>world gen
Entire genre of games centered around randomly or procedurally generated worlds including one of the most successful games of all time.
That's why i asked for his super specific definitions because the concepts are so blatantly obvious
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>>571079589
>I will never make a game
ftfy
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>>571079558
No, I'm not. I don't even have a Steamworks account.
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>>571079174
>they're good enough to replace you or you can cry and get outcompeted
This. We're all getting left behind (in 2 more years)
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>>571079242
>You can't even envision an example of AI taking gaming to new heights.
NTA but literally yes.
It's literally not happening. Gamedevs who did the work to learn how to make games are making games. Nobody is being taken to "the next level". Just lots of pipe dreaming nodevs still hyping tech that has been out for years already.

>you can't think. You don't have a soul.
While clinging to daddy Claudes leg
lmao
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>>571079618
>>571079404

See, this is exactly what I fucking meant. This retard is comparing entire quest lines with reactive dynamic dialogue, with, fucking Ultima 2 or some shit. He's a RETARD.

And you know what, I won't even predict this WILL happen. Who knows what sort of bottlenecks exist that would be required to breakthrough, my overall point is that we have a taste of it now already implemented into Skyrim, but it's costly and limited.
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all snailcats do is cry and whine
WHAA WHAA WHAA
meanwhile making a big SLIMY mess
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>>571079174
I don't hate it but I can't be enthusiastic about it. It's like being a fat fuck and getting cancer and being happy about all the weight you're losing.
Then again we've had wysiwyg html editors for 30 years and web designers still aren't extinct so maybe we have more time than I think. And there's nothing to do but either ignore AI or use it to our advantage.
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>>571079870
>While clinging to daddy Claudes leg
>lmao
Shut the fuck you nobody, you're not equipped to be in this fucking conversation.
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>>571079614
if I can steal to make my game better I'll do it every time

I'm surprised that's even a question for some people
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>>571079558
>steam won't put you on the front page for clicking the publish button anymore
Good thing marketing is a thing and you can show people your game in other ways huh.

Chris Zukowski just keeps winning.
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>>571079915
>i say it already exists
>you spaz out
>later reference an example yourself where it already exists in Skyrim
lol, your memory context is just as bad as an LLM
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>>571080008
and they shat slime on the floor too, ewww
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>>571080147
Yes it exists in Skyrim with the help of AI, RETARD. Which clearly isn't what you were talking about, you're talking about the 90's lmfao. Fucking dork.
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>>571079915
>we have a taste of it now already implemented into Skyrim, but it's costly and limited.
Right. You have chatbots in a Skyrim mod.

AI just
keeps
LOSING
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>>571080128
You're still competing with other people though. Social media works in a similar way, its all competitive.
Becoming more and more winner takes all too.
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>>571080350
they existed in vanilla skyrim lol
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>>571080042
>web designers still aren't extinct
You sure about that? Websites are absolutely something that AI can one shot right now. So the only real work now is in getting people who will pay to have a website made. Extremely difficult compared to only 5 years ago I'm sure.
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FISH dev here! Recently I've got an unexplainable spike in wishlists this June, does anybody know why?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4312850/FISH/
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>>571080487
No they did not. Not to any level anyone finds acceptable or interesting. Not on any level that would be relevant to the overall argument. Mr Technical retard.
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>>571080675
>they did not
>okay they did but they weren't good enough
?????????????????
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>>571080379
Did you quote me just to agree with me while acting like you're disagreeing and making a point? I've had my fun arguing, but I think I'm done for the day. Anyone not retarded will understand this isn't even close and that I'm right about everything.
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Pretty happy with Gemini and Comfyui where I can now make my waifumon.
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>>571080843
>>571080379
Here are my 2 cents. AI wonnered bigly.
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>>571080618
Maybe there's a game similar to yours that did well in Next Fest and steered enough algorithms to suggest your demo?

God my brain is gigantic. I don't even care if that's the real answer I'm just so smart for even thinking of that.
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>>571080768
Right, that's what the word relevant means. We already went over your cheese wheel ace in the sleeve you've been waiting to play, faggot.
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>one AI chud after another just getting bodied in multiple arguments
So funny. You guys really need to consider just stepping away from AI and getting your chops up first. Perhaps you should consider making a game?
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Gamers are giga-retards.
Valve uses AI extensively. Not only is Deadlock still filled with AI textures and used AI concept art but obviously valve is using it to code like every other studio. Valve doesn't talk about their use of AI so gamers think they don't use AI and so Valve doesn't get flak for using AI.
Gamers are like babies that lack object permanence.
As soon as the dumbass AI disclosure that Valve themselves don't use goes away, and it will soon, the retard crusade against AI will reach a point where every game is being accused of using AI then everyone will stop giving a shit.
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>>571077417
So why does that apply to modifying other peoples work, but not those who use asset packs? Lots of successful games that use asset packs that people enjoyed.
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>be me, 19
>friend and I have a cool idea for a incremental game
>I make the desktop version, he makes an android version and makes sure it works on browsers too
>we pool our money together for marketing
>plan is to apply to a bunch of incubators like PV and BV
>5 months later we have 800 users
>each user costs like $0.90 cents in third party api costs and the few paying users gave us back $0.07 cents a user
>add on top google / instagram / tiktok ads and we're out of money
>get rejected by all the vcs
>we're both unemployed and broke
turns out investors only want to interview college dropouts if they dropped out of stanford or princeton
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>>571081216
you ludlost
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhKZcY2JmaA

ai made mmo by brazillians, its joever isnt it?
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>>571080934
2026
This remains the only actual AI chad to post in agdg.

Congrats AI chads. You won. We have truly all been
#leftbehind
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>he thought turd worlds would reject AI
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>571081404
ludoxisters our ~ponse~?
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>>571081286
incremental games are literally the most common games on steam with a sub 1.5% 1k reviews first year rate
why the fuck would you make that and ask for investor money?
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>>571081286
you're only 19, go get a job at Starbucks and fuck all your female coworkers for a few years while making your game on the side
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>>571081551
rascal
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>>571081404
>2.6k subscribers
>brazil
>AI
So they paid this guy to make a video about this game huh.

AI
just
keeps
WINNING
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>>571080934
cris doubters have been silent lately
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>>571081228
>AI will reach a point where every game is being accused of using AI
Never going to happen.

>then everyone will stop giving a shit.
Already happened.

Literally the only people who get twisted up about AI anymore is you AI "chads". You're constantly in some kind of state of anxiety about the technology. It's kind of sad.
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>>571081702
his 512 waifu shit is a top 3 worst of his ideas desu.
a cruel irony within a cruel irony of him being obsessed with a dumb idea with 0 potential
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>>571081628
This. I did this from 22-32. No shame. However that was 10 years ago and the ethnic composition has changed quite a bit no not sure if its worth it depending on where you live.
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>>571081858
yeah, he should have made a game where a fish runs around with a gun
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>>571081998
he's had actual kino ideas in the past, but always drops them to rotate between his favorite shit ones
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>>571081286
>each user costs like $0.90 cents in third party api costs
HOW
WHY
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>spending any amount of money on mobile shit
lol
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>>571081858
>a dumb idea with 0 potential
He wants a literal harem simulator for himself. There is no "potential" that's not how he thinks.

In any case, AI is enabling him now by generating tons of slop for him to finally get over his main hurdle which was asset creation and now we will see him burn out not knowing what to actually do next. He's been stuck on step number one for 15 years. The perfect candidate to be swept up in AI hysteria.
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Remember to properly draw your lolis~
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It's a zero wishlist kind of day
I'm too ashamed of my own work to even advertise it, low self esteem is a bitch
I am shit therefore my game is shit, and why would I go around showing people my shit?
I'm the wrong type of mentally ill for this endeavor
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>>571080934
Dude you couldnt fucking crop the background and make it transparent?
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>>571081628
you don't "just get an entry level job" anymore these days nigger
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>>571083342
You and me. make shit today, maybe the shit of next year will smell rosy. improve every day/game.
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So this is what cris will do next. He will get tired of looking at the 2D sprites and decide he wants to generate 3D. Then he will do that, twice, with different services, then move them around in Godot or something for a bit. Then decide 3D is too hard even with AI, so he'll go back to trying to one shot a 2D game with AI and a new set of 2D art, and then he will go back to his fighting game. Then he will go back to his harem game and the cycle repeats.

He will never run out of new methods to try and use AI to make game, and will keep switching solutions forever. AI is churning countless people in this kind of cycle. But at least he's keeping busy. I'm glad for him.
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is it easy to swap out placeholder sprites for spine2d stuff later on in unity? i was thinking of buying spine2d later on rather than now.
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>>571083342
smoke meth and go full ai schizo
you will never make posts like this again
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Now I need some mechanic ideas, I have no clue what else to add beyond a pokemon city roguelike.

Honestly I have no clue what else to do besides copying that NES GTA mechanics, and add bombs and shmup projectiles like trannyhou, and a pokeball to capture.

>>571083451
they're placeholders.
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>>571083697
>copying that NES GTA mechanics, and add bombs and shmup projectiles like trannyhou, and a pokeball to capture
this is why cris is based and haters will never get it
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I sometimes wishlist indie games and leave positive reviews even if the game is ungodly dogshit
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>>571083541
Yeah just have to keep on truckin or else it's low paying manual labor forever for the rest of my life
I'd rather be a low paid game dev

>>571083665
I do admire their ability to be delusionally self confident if nothing else
I see some absolute trash games being pushed and I need that level of confidence for myself
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>>571084598
Aw that's nice anon you probably make their day
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>>571083697
Called it >>571082540
>now we will see him burn out not knowing what to actually do next
Poor guy has been chasing one game for years without any real idea of what the game will be.
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>>571085628
>Poor guy has been chasing one game for years without any real idea of what the game will be.
that's at least 90% of indie devs
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>>571072717
>>571072819
Kek! I don't think she'll be popular with the gamedev audience if she looked like this.
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>>571085952
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>>571085952
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>>571081286
>apply to a bunch of incubators like PV and BV
>incubators
Kek! Though I have to ask, how exactly did you get into contact with VC's to shill your game? Was it in person or just an email?
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>>571085952
thought this was a tranny but that skull shape is too feminine
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>>571086782
i think you are a feminine tranny
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>>571083342
I got 3 today. and I'm good, like really good at what I do. But I can't bring myself to use algo bait. but that changes today. enough is enough
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>>571087562
did you utilize ai?
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>>571084598
Thank you. Treating indie devs like sick children is the way to go. it's tough out there. they didn't choose this life.
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>>571087770
I asked youtubes analysis AI what to do to increase retention
it told me to put text on my yt shorts like
>"Day 244 of working on my dream game"
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>>571085952
KEKYPOW
>>
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is runa the only good looking female gamedev? the assassin's creed woman doesnt count she didnt come up with the idea
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>>571088496
i look better than her
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>>571088526
me on the right
TDD
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It's a steam shadowdrop kinda day. No ads, not streamer deals, no social media posts.
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>>571088526
>can't even hold a briefcase properly
>you paid money to generate this literal slop
WINNING
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>>571088496
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>>571088156
Girls Lovecast dev?
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>>571052976
This. The nigger with the French flag isn't interested AI or making games. He's just the toxic and malicious type of schizophrenic, while Cris is the earnest and harmless kind. Nearly every single dev that uses aggy daggy uses AI in some way or another. Myself, I use chatgpt 4 to help me with pseudo-code and debugging some of my more complex scripts. But the AI schizo either gave up on game dev or has never even started. Just a pointless freak and a pathetic troll that has been successfully filtered from the real thread now. I've only just come back recently after a long time away. I can't believe you guys put up with that shit since last November apparently. Truly a diseased and pathetic mind.
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>>571089875
I'm immune to stuff like that.
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>>571089427
>>can't even hold a briefcase properly
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>>571052976
>Someone posted this in the bant thread yesterday and it was more useful than anything you retards have ever posted.
>retards: plural
Anon, there is literally only one guy doing all this shit. In the second or third /bant/ thread he finally showed his face. He's the cockroach with a French flag and posted nearly 20 retarded posts that have nothing to do with game dev. He also replied to himself with other IDs, always with French or sometimes American flags. It's literally one sad fuck that has conversations with himself because no one else wants to interact with him. If he's this noxious on anonymous forums, imagine having to tolerate the cunt in real life. We are lucky by comparison. He just gets insta-filtered.
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this is what i got so far. below the surface it has a good foundation, for example proven scalable multiplayer and ecs and serialization to blueprints (not the unreal blueprints its totally different) which allows it to be one of those "anything can become anything" games like Caves of Qud
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We are reaching l-udseething levels never seens before
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>>571090792
some people just like to shitpost bro its not that serious
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>>571090794
Oh wow, our second proggy post in 452 replies. That's one proggy post every 226 replies! Not bad! That that /bant/ sissies!
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>>571090794
in a way what im trying to make is Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead but actually playable for normal people
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>>571090794
Interesting, and how did you use AI?
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>>571090924
And yet they don't do it to this level on a thread with IDs. Curious. You've been filtered faggot. Enjoy talking to yourself and posting the same 62 images every day for literally no reason and to no benefit to you or anyone else. You will die alone, unloved and not missed.
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>>571090930
what the hell happened to this place
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>>571091067
ludseethe
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>>571089794
https://youtu.be/XyT3FEFGJe8?si=womCHWLZFbd8RT2C&t=312
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>>571091071
One schizophrenic retard makes up about 80% of the posts in every thread so we left and went to /bant/. He shows up there occasionally showing a French flag but you can just filter him. The /bant/ threads are now where actual progress is posted and game dev discussions are had. Join us. Leave this mentally ill faggot to rot and talk to himself. If it wasn't for some of us coming here to tell refugees where to go, he'd be completely alone just spamming AI memes to himself.

>>>/bant/24523106
>>>/bant/24523106
>>>/bant/24523106
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lwdmeltie
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>>571090969
yes i used my GPT Codex and Claude subscriptions. the $20/month each ones. i've known how to code a long time so i can tell the AI exactly how to do something so it doesnt mess it up. like which netcode libraries to use, ecs, and general best practices. my AGENTS.md file is so long it is basically a step by step guide on exactly how to make the game so the AI doesnt fuck it up and has to do as little thinking for itself as possible.

if i let it think for itself it'll fuck everything up that's why actually knowing software design really helps even if you don't want to code it yourself. you can at least identify when the AI is making a huge mistake instead of not knowing.
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>>571091406
AI Chads just keep winning.
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The schizos didn't kill /agdg/
The lack of yesdevs did
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>>571091067
Oh yeah? I just filtered you right back. How about that. You think that's fuckin funny?
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>>571091305
Actually I'd still be here too but I could stop posting and just lurk for a month or so if you think that would make the spam stop
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>>571091487
i will save /aggy/ soon with my progress
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>>571091487
omg that is a cute cat <3
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>>571091498
kecipow
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>>571091573
Yes, could stop posting for a month and just lurk? Thank you for your service.
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>>571091487
I'm working on some stuff so I'm not able to work on my game once they're taken care off (in a month or two) I will post some progress
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i want to save devs here some potential time, if you want to use AI, do not fall for the Chinese models, they secretly suck. see "DeepSWE" benchmarks for proof, the one benchmarks they can't cheat on by pre-training the AI to pass them.

it shows that only GPT and Claude are worth using. GPT 5.5 got 80% for example. Claude got 56%. DeepSeek v4 got 8%. GLM got 16%. As you can see that means Chinese models actually suck.

Which is expected since chinese models are trained from output from GPT and Claude
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>>571091726
Ok I start tomorrow though because I'm already posting here today and I don't feel like stopping abruptly
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>>571091912
Yep its true anything that isn't claude or gpt/codex sucks.
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>>571090660
>digs around for random smug slop
This is not a reply. You have failed. You lose.
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>>571091487
Yesdevs have remained constant the whole time you've shitted up the thread with your schizohprenia. The threads were still intolerable because of your inability to not spam, samefag and troll. AGDG must be made of stern stuff because most of the rest of the internet would have just migrated after like a week of your faggotry. You are by definition intolerable.
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>>571089772
>22 years ago
how is she now
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>>571092498
nuh uh, you ludlost
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>>571092571
>how is she now
rolling in Tiny Glade money
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>>571089875
We should hit up the /g/ vibecoder thread and let them know there are a handful of imposters here pretending to use AI to make games but we are being starved of actual content. I bet someone can drop some useful tips here and we can finally have some actual AI chads in the thread.

At first the spammer will be overjoyed, but he will be completely ignored with all his bait posting as all the attention goes to actual chads. And then the shift will happen and the jealousy will kick in. I honestly don't think he will be able to handle it.
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give gamers what they want
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>>571092870
And then everyone clapped
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>>571092870
brother who do you think is generating and cross posting all the snailcat memes
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Proceeding on artdev today. Soon four levels for KVK will have been finished. Only eight more to go.
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>>571093131
krakapo-wa
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>>571092974
Cammy should have big muscles.
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>>571092974
too young she needs a few more years to fatten up a bit
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>mina the rat
>everybody hyping it up because zelda/castlevania nostalgia trip for millenials
>game releases
>a month later only 4200 reviews

did we reach a point where we should not be catering to millenials but rather genZ? If you aren't making 3D you are NGMI
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>>571093405
based
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>>571093405
I'm making a 2.5D game, I'm catering to zillenials
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>>571093405
Definitely cater to zooms. But don't count out 2D completely. I think GBA or DS level 2D can still work.
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>>571093131
Probably the same retard who hangs out here doing nothing with himself except posting memes? You can see the spammer on multiple boards at all times doing his usual routine. So he's 100% in the /g/ threads doing the same thing. We don't care about that though. We are going to recruit actual chad devs who don't have time to post gay memes and cry about "luddites".
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>>571092869
I pictured her doing that. I'll be in my bunk
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>>571093405
>250k copies sold
>$4m gross income
>somehow not good enough for nodev that never released a game
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>>571093546
i'll make the logo
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>>571093627
the point is its really not that much for something with that heavy a brand name
the time of millennials is fading
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>>571093405
I'm catering to people who like video games.
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>>571093405
>only 4200 reviews
What kind of brain damage is this?
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>>571093627
Ill have you know ive released 2 slops
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>>571093405
I just don't like anthropomorphic animals.
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>>571093546
>>571093693
now that 4chan traffic is slowing down we can colonize every board
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>>571093627
how is that point wrong though? 4200 reviews for a dev team that took like 7 years to make a game with a huge cult on indie scene because of shovel knight seems kinda low.
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>have own safespace
>still come here to whine
why are they like this?
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>>571093627
The studio was hoping for a million sales.
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>spend 3 days implementing a feature
>realize it's not fun
>remove it
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>>571094031
>unironically pocket watching.
NGMI
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>>571094145
I don't know what that gay shit is, but business is business and expenses exist.
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>>571094145
>unironically pocket watching
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>>571094142
*removes you*
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>>571094042
We own both threads and can do what we want. You own nothing. This is your containment thread where we can throw our toys around and kick you in the shins and laugh once in a while then go back to the real thread to post our kickass games. What are you going to about it? Post more slop?
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Honestly a roguelike pokemon that copies the gameboy games sounds a million dollar idea.
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>>571094394
you mean like nuzlocke?
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>>571094394
and Pocketpair already fought all the legal battles for you, isn't that kind
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>>571094042
My safe space was forcibly taken from me. Now I need to find a way to get it back or find another one
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>>571094327
ludcope
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>>571094142
What feature?
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>>571094871
what does he even DO?
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How bout there's random coins that spawn in the game and you can like in GTA pay the waifu for some ass and pussy and BJ.
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>>571095554
what if all of that but irl instead
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>>571095554
Sounds like its shaping up to be another Cris kino masterpiece.
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>>571095554
cris how come you havent vibecoded a full game already? its been a long time since you finished something and we all know you love shortcuts
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>>571095554
Arent you making pokemon why not just use the system of pokemon where you fight and get money for beating trainers
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>>571095554
all your ideas end up as low-quality porn.
do better cris
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incremental harem game with a looksmaxx node tree
why am i giving million dollar ideas for free...
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>>571095554
That's really sad.

On the other hand, seeing a random cat saying these deranged things will always be funny.
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>>571091912
Why are Chinese models trained on output from Western models? Doesn't China have their own data to use since their population vastly outnumbers the West? Or are Asians such soulless sameface NPC automatons that all the data is worthless due to no variety and only poorly copying how White People behave?
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>>571095949
one botched nose job and you lose it all in seconds...
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>>571095949
>why am i giving million dollar ideas for free...
where at?
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>>571095949
heh, nothing personel kido
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>>571095075
makes shovelware games that no one plays
same as (You)
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>>571095895
how bout besides gettting the random coins spawned, you can get coins spawned from killing the waifus like GTA when you kill pedestrians?
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>>571096157
describes like 80k people every year
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>>571096090
AI Models seems exceptionally good at JavaScript more than anything else. That's why my game is a JavaScript (actually TypeScript, because I heard multiple people say that the types and such in TS help the AI Model understand the code faster than it will JS). It can play in browser or be packaged into an EXE using uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>571096201
>pick up coin
>exchange coin for sex
>kill sex person
>pick up coin again
>infinite sex
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>>571096201
>>571096390
it really is an incremental game
goddamn cris is genius
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>Yes. You're correct — I went off the rails.
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>>571096090
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Snailcat bros... I'm so tired... So tired...
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>>571096090
>>571096713
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>>571096713
>>571096913
a few more prompts, pay Gabe $100 and you are off to the races
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>>571096913
>cookie clicker clone
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>>571047802
>>571051892
>>571096090
Do you guys feel cool when you take these screenshots? You do don't you.
That's really sad.
You know we make videogames here right? Videogames are kind of more cool than your gay little subscription service prompts. But not in your mind. In your mind you're awesome for paying money to talk to a chatbot. That's why you take these screenshots.
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>>571097194
see >>571096913
9 minutes from screenshot to a fully finished functional game, fully afk
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>>571096378
probably because they train on all the git project, you're condensing 20 years of jeet history
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>>571096913
>charm
aura.
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>>571097273
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>game
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>>571097273
Yeah so like I was saying, you actually think this is cool what you're doing and it's not. It's incredibly cringe to see people who think they're doing something impressive when ... you're just talking to a chatbot.

>chatbot make me some slop
>woah did you guys see that, it made the slop!

Yes honey we saw. Good job.
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>>571097475
nigga was FUMING as he held that key down
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>>571097534
actually laughing because you somehow made less of a game than googum and are bragging about it
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>>571097625
Rent free
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>>571097625
1 prompt = 2 years of googum snailcat work
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>>571097625
>made
He created exactly 0% of what is shown in that webm lol
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>>571096913
it has been another 10 minutes, so I need to see looksmaxx typcoon looking twice as good. lets see it. SVG face that morphs as you upgrade?
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>>571072465
Anyone have that image portraying Godot 4.X versions as boats/ships and they got increasingly better until 4.7 was a luxury cruiser? I want to see how well that approximates reality.
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Not like this AI chads... not like this...
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call me retarded but i really just want to make something like CDDA but actually playable. hopefully there's a market for that.
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>>571080934
>>571096913
So this is what we get after 2 years of daily spam huh

AI was literally a mistake.
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>>571096913
put it on steam
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where are lolidevs?
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>>571098190
it's open source so just load up the project in claude and tell it to make it playable
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The boss coming along, but it's taken me far too long to rig all them legs and wheels. Sucks to still be learning basics while making a game. Haven't even touched materials and audio. When is the next dd after 69? There's no way I can get all this made and put together before 6th of July
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>>571098190
i would also in a way call it 2d topdown Project Zomboid instead of isometric. Zomboid would probably be my favorite game of all time if not for the isometric view. its almost intolerable to me.
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>>571097738
>1 prompt
That doesn't mean anything. It used some kind of template to hallucinate it's own idea of a game, but it's not like you actually prompted it so expertly that it made what you asked for.

When will the fraud end and the actual AI chadding begin? Seemingly never.
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Looks like a new version of Godot released.
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>>571098678
Isometric rules.
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Chat Jippity, generate me a version of MineSweeper but the mines are drugs and the flags are boobs.

>2 minutes later

Boom nailed it. One shotted, one single prompt.

I made this.
I
created
this myself.
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>>571098615
this looks cool as hell. 3 months.
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how many prompts until an AI project can be considered yours? I'm at 1000+ and 1 million lines of code
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>>571098615
Main body mesh, needs more work but getting there
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>>571072717
what's with the cringe suit and red tie, she looks 10 times less feminine
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>>571099443
Women don't tress for incels' approval.
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>>571099443
it's to attract incels. makes sense if you think about it. trump does it too.
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>>571099443
it makes her look more autistic (approachable)
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My game will have a "Woke Mode" tickbox in settings if my game gets popular enough for woke people to complain about the "not okay" content in it. It will replace the Lolis with fat hambeast women and enemy will throw Big Black Dildos at you instead of bullets and all enemies will be made white instead of almost all minorities
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>>571099627
>>571099832
incels wouldn't watch her videos
they despise women
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>>571099095
tnx bro
for reference, those 2 separate "cars" for legs are about the size of trucks, part of the mechanic is driving underneath the boss and dropping captured bombs to blow up the wheels. she a big'un
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>>571100031
you know from experience?
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Are the luddite chud incels developing amateur games in the thread with you right now watching Juniper Dev?
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>>571100031
Where do you think all these seething gay remarks about her looks are coming from?
I'm not white knighting either, the catty remarks made so far are extremely gay lmao
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>>571100208
fags know women and fashion better than women do
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>>571098267
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>>571100335
I don't even think it's that, I don't think gay people call anyone skinnyfat. That sounds like something an incel who lurks /fit/ would say and when it's said about a female it just sounds so bizarre.

Lotta confused people on this website.
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>>571099627
yeah it's a real tragedy, look at how ugly she looks with that tie compared to a normal dress
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>>571100667
>criticizing mens weight is fine but don't you HECKIN say ANYTHING about a Womyn's weight!!!!
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>>571100623
sashers...
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>>571100790
Skinnyfat isn't about weight, it's insulting someone for not being athletic basically. Why would a female gamedev youtuber need to look athletic?

So autistic, gay, jealous, all of it, these remarks. Giving massive ick.
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>>571100102
I played the demo in my mind and it was pretty cool.
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>>571101043
>Skinnyfat isn't about weight,
lmao
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>>571101043
Skinnyfat means being scrawny while having belly fat
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>>571100667
need I remind you that /fit/ runs the internet
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Yeah so anyway, AI cucks are in shambles and haven't made a single game after 3 years of spamming the thread. Keep making your sneaky remarks in bant, nobody cares.

FILTERED
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>>571101930
people who spam the general don't make games. ai or no ai
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I think this is starting to look like a real game.

:)

Now I need a menue to buy drugs and chloroform.
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>>571080618
a very likely contributing factor https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2787118410?t=02h05m21s
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>>571102403
I'm laughing imagining when you finally get to making the NSFW content and can't even post it here. And you shouldn't. You should stop this immediately and make a real game. We don't live forever Cris. You're just throwing it all away. Unlike me
*sips energy drink*
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>>571102403
you are going to make it
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>>571080618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVnjtt8SPAc
what country did most of the 'shlists come from though?
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>>571093541
>Definitely cater to zooms
So trannies, literally worshipping niggers and climate change alarmism?
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>>571102515
vinny will play my AI game right?
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>muh generational war
>muh culture war
People who are this salty can't make games. Games come from good and happy souls that can have fun. If you ever hear someone seething about culture war and petty generational stuff, they are not a gamedev. Guaranteed.
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>>571103265
calm down unc
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how many content overlords did you send your demo to? I hear minimum you should aim for is 300. I just want a japanese v-tuber to play my rage game
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>>571103941
Good.
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>>571103941
if it wasnt for ai i wouldnt have made as much progres on my lolie game as i have, thanks gaben
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>>571103941
>More games get produced with AI assistance
>$100 bucks a pop + tip
>earns back the 20 million through steam direct fees alone

fatfuck gabencunt planned this all along
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>>571103265
I would show you my game(s) you passive aggressive faggot but because of people like you, I can't. Cancel culture is still a thing (for now) it has an expiration date. We are going to go back to the based 90s aka the golden age of gaming. And there's nothing you'll be able to do about it except cope seethe and dilate.
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Finally finished and pushed out the Romantic Update for my robot game. Inb4 "Can you fuck it".

https://x.com/DevShinobu/status/2067743573466915065
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>>571105168
uhhhh mmmm BASED DEPARTMENT??
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>>571103941
based if true
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>>571105168
>We are going to go back to the based 90s
We? You have to be free of the identity politics you've been indoctrinated with to even catch a glimpse of the good vibes of the 90s. I'm already there, I doubt you are capable of joining me.
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>>571105361
I don't care about these autistic anime girlfriend sims.
Where's my wolf daughter raising sim?
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Slow down. Going fast is an illusion. The easier you take it, the easier the universe takes you.
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>>571105690
Wokeness begets push back. When wokeness goes away (it has less than 10 years left maximum) so will push back like calling blacks niggers. The 90s were literally post-racial and I know that because unlike you, I existed then and experienced it little faggot. Your entire zoomer culture is literally centered around worsshipping blacks for no meritorious reason. When that is no longer the case blacks and whites will be bros again with just the occasional hick and black power nigga still seething in a corner somewhere. There is nothing you can do to stop this.
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>>571105808
One life. The slower you go, the more you waste it. Use every cheat code. Use every opportunity.
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>>571105361
Long time no see. I expected to see your game do better. I'm guessing most of your sales came from Kickstarter?
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>>571105960
He priced it too high, no way a lot of people want to pay $18 for this.
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>>571105912
People were politically correct in the 90s in various ways, it didn't overwhelm people or cause them to seethe for 10 years. The era from 2016 to now hearing constant seething about woke this and that. Exhausting. Seethers are not ready or capable of returning to the 90s, and for that I pity them.
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>>571105704
kanna...
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>>571106121
how come indie devs can't raise prices even with ridiculous inflation but people are happy to pay $80 for AAA slop
>that sandwich will be $22 plus tip
ok here you go
>that indie game will be $18
NOOO what a fucking ripoff!!
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>>571106395
you can do what you want, but people will not be willing to pay higher prices precisely because inflation already fucks with their budget
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>>571105808
>>571105926
>games made so far: zero
Inspirational.
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>>571106395
(steam price, so deep sales counted)
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>>571106875
holy fucking blackpill
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>>571105808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpckQFjvntw
Trvke. Keep deving keep working but if you stress yourself out about getting to the illusory finish line where you start living your "real" life it'll already be gone
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slow is smooth smooth is fast
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>>571107421
wise wrinkly snail
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>>571107246
Shit advice for 20 year olds, if you slow down you will realize one day that you are in your mid 30s and you've never been anywhere, haven't experienced shit, and have nothing going on for you.
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>>571107246
>everyone slows down
>rates of mental retardation go up
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>>571107632
Gonna have to agree. Telling young people to cool off their ambitions and that they have plenty of time is massively cucking them.

When you are young you are in your prime earning years and have infinite energy. Be extremely wary of people who tell you to "relax". You are literally biologically wired to go out and get your life. There is plenty of time to relax when you're old.

This is an eceleb who has already made it and is just tired of hearing his zoomer audience talk about hustle culture, that's all. He's trying to cool them off so they'll stop sperging out in his chat or something.

Also, this isn't gamedev related. When actual ecelebs who are involved in gamedev get posted we have melties though.
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>>571107921
daaaaamn mamacita
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>>571106875
The absolute STATE
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>>571107647
It causes anxiety too, and depression. Nobody is motivating or encouraging the youth properly, and if they do have motivation they are told to calm down and stop trying to "grow up so fast".

In the animal kingdom, many animals will eat the young of other animals to stop them from competing. Many people have a natural instinct to step on younger people and tell them to cool off. They are devouring the young. This is a massive issue.
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kids don't understand that 3d is easier to do and basically worthless? 2d games should be 4x the price.
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>>571107632
Slow down doesn't mean don't do anything thoughever
>>571107858
>this isn't gamedev related
Do you want to talk about AI and luddies instead
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>>571106875
This is so unfair, my indie game should be valued the same as a AAA title. I am so demoralized now because my personal project isn't worth as much as a multi-billion dollar endeavor from 400 people made over the course of 7 years.

It's unironically
OVER
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I don't want to solodev.
I don't want to be a polymath.
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>>571105960
Surprisingly it was half bugs and half AI service hate (people dislike ai tokens). Perhaps I also leaned too much on gameplay rather than character interactions.
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>>571093405
how much sales did they need for the game to be worth it? i recall seeing them cry about it but idk if that was just for publicity.

>>571093751
how successful was it?

>>571099443
probably gonna troon out or something. then again she appeared out of nowhere and got instant fame, i wouldn't be surprised if there's some big organization funding her and telling her what to do. also is her hairline receding?
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>>571108580
>what is inflation
go to school
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>>571089772
prettiest one imho. why cant i have a programmer gf that can make my most complex games for me? i want dwarf fortress? she vill help me code it in fact i can just do the art instead

>>571093719
cute design

>>571106395
nta but theres literal wagies in america getting so pushy and demanding a 40% tip fucking lmao. its pushing pro tippers to become no tippers like me
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>>571108580
This is uniquely a gaming thing that indie developers and gamers have been conditioned into thinking is normal. Like Obsession didn't have a lower ticket cost just because it was indie and cheaper than Masters of the Universe to make.
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>>571109528
TRVKE
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>>571109158
>my indie game should be worth as much as a AAA title
It's not though.

>it should be because inflation
No it shouldn't. Your game is not worth as much as a AAA title.

>go to school
School won't teach you to stop being a salty jealous loser who worries about billion dollar companies making more money than you. Jealousy is a character trait that nobody can fix for you.
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>>571109528
>This is uniquely a gaming thing that indie developers and gamers have been conditioned into thinking is normal.
Taylor Swift earns more money than your local jazz bands.
Athletes in Major Leagues make more money than athletes in Minor Leagues.

This is not a gaming industry thing.
I bet you sit around seething that billionaires exist.
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>>571109986
you are being purposefully obtuse
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>>571109986
all of those tickets cost the same
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Why don't you people focus on making one good game instead of shitting out a million bad ones?
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>>571109986
>Taylor Swift earns more money than your local jazz bands.
But a Taylor Swift vinyl isn't going to cost more than a local jazz band's vinyl.
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>>571110485
that would require being good at something. indie devs are not even good at 1 thing let alone all of the different things required to make a good game.
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>>571110519
RESIST
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>>571110290
No they don't. Big stars have concerts or festivals with $80 tickets. Jazz bands play in small clubs with a $7 admittance fee.
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At least the lolidevs are back.
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>>571110610
Limited seats price is driven by demand. Seeing Taylor Swift in person isn't an infinitely duplicatable thing like copies of games and movies are.
Her CDs and music downloads don't cost more than other band's.
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>>571110545
Good point. I guess your indie game should be worth $80 after all.
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>>571109726
get off 4chan. you must be 18+ to post here.
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>>571110759
>Her CDs and music downloads don't cost more than other band's.
But her concerts do. Which is why she is a billionaire.

Why do her concerts cost more? Because the public agrees that it's worth the price.

Why do your games not cost as much as AAA games? Because the market has agreed that AAA games are worth more.
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I think indies should be able to charge more for their games.
>REEEEEE why do you think you can charge $80 like AAA do?
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>>571111225
indie prices are the correct price. it's AAA that tripled their prices for no reason.
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>>571111225
>I think indies should be able to charge more for their games.
Do it then, see what happens.
It's so weird to seethe about how the free market works. Like do you not understand what jealousy is? It's not some deep concept. You're jealous. There's no argument you can make to make your jealousy seem rational.
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>>571111225
$10 in 2006 = $16 in 2026
raise your game price
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>>>/g/109086807
I learn so much about ai from /g/
its like having an older brother that is a bad influence
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>>571111739
house prices have also 10x'd
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>>571111761
I'm not clicking your wall of text screenshot thanks.
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>>571111979
sob stories are enough to jailbreak the ai and get it to do what you want
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Price of a AAA game in 1999: $80
Price of a AAA game in 2026: $50

Stop getting brainwashed by "gamer" culture. Angry weirdos who don't even play games but indoctrinate you to seethe about capitalism.
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>>571113229
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`status?
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we need more loliedevs
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Yo imagine spending this many years of your life everyday in a gamedev thread and yo

check it

making zero games.

Yo that's wild can you imagine? haha

*notices him standing there*

Oh uh... awkward.
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>>571111612
Good idea, looks a lot better now
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>take a look at the vibecode general
>they literally aren't making anything
Wow. It's all starting to make sense. These people literally just tinker with AI and that's it.
Cancel that plan about recruiting AI "chads" from /g/. It's obvious they don't exist.
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>>571116252
stop exposing us
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>>571116252
Some absolute trvkes in there though from those who aren't completely delusional.

>>>/g/109082876
>vibecoders are fucked in current market lol. There's too many software devs laid off by now and almost everyone know how to ai. Who will corps prefer people who had actual experience or some random losers who couldn't bother to learn to code?
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>>571116571
That's the goal though, destruction of corporate culture. Closed source will cease to exist. Before they pulled Fable 5 it was reverse engineering bytecode.
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>>571114571
we need less
none at all
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>>571026656
>obsessively spams AI related memes in a vane attempt to demotivate yesdevs
It's not about demotivating anyone, it's just ritual schizophrenia or OCD, he can't go a single day without performing his routine multiple times. If you look at the vibecode general you'll see the spammer has lifted his entire personality from those guys and often spirals into schizo fits where he accuses them of being jeets for every trivial thing. The same thing he does here.

It's just a very dimwitted person with no personality. And no game, obviously.
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>You should use this amazing tool
>REEE you are demotivating me
Why are they like this?
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how do you cope with the fact that gamers are more subhuman unintelligent niggers than they've ever been? causing anything better than bottom of the barrel to fail.
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>>571118101
but I like the loliedevs...
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>>571118707
>comes to a gamedev thread everyday for 3 years
>makes no game
>REEEEE IM JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU USE THIS TOOL
Why are you like this?
You're not wanted or needed in the vibecode general. You're not making a game here.
I imagine your entire life has this repeating pattern of you being a nuisance who is just generally in the way and annoying.
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>>571114797
Fucking kek!
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>>571118783
Did someone dunk on you in /v/ again?
Poor baby.
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>>571118870
You are fucking insane, you think I'm posting in multiple boards 24/7 every day, take your fucking meds
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>>571118707
>>571119119
>You should use this amazing tool
You have never once said this. You don't show tools, you don't demonstrate tools. This picture here is the only useful thing anyone has posted about AI and it was in the bant thread lmao >>571052976
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>>571119471
I think you ludlost
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>>571119665
See? You're the most shallow individual who is currently on the internet, zero depth, nobody can extract anything meaningful from you, not even the most basic conversation.
Go ahead and spam your memecat that you stole from the actual high IQ chads in /g/ now. I know it soothes you.
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>>571119895
ludseethe
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>>571113229
>Price of a AAA game in 1999: $80
*Price of a nintendo game on an expensive cartridge
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>>571120870
could you really buy a console for 150? damn boomers had it good
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>>571119971
>can't make a game in the videogame making thread
>thinks he can tell people to use tools that he can't even use himself to make a game
>falls apart during even the most basic interactions with other posters

I think it's time for you to

ludleave
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>>571121101
console wars were for literal poors
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>>571121247
ludwhine as much as you want
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>>571121419
It's crazy how much you base your self worth from your daddy having money. Very feminine.
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>>571121905
my dad works for nintendo, i bet yours works as trashman
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>>571121101
There's a reason the PS3's price was memed on so hard.
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>>571121905
you could get a summer job and have enough to buy the console and all the good games
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>>571122170
>First party controllers that didn't develop stick drift after 2 months for $25
Oh lord take me back
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You need therapy and strong medication before your game can be a success
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>>571122170
Hardware is such a ripoff now. All of it.
Steam hardware too, that people are paying near a grand for a meme deck is retarded.
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>>571122716
no it isn't
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>>571028927
>everyone being fake nice and too scared to say anything
You mean you. You're scared. Scared to say "kekypow" and all your gay calling cards. Which is actually hilarious, you don't have the nerve to just be filtered in a single thread lol
Really highlights whatever psychological issues you have about being ignored huh. Some deep issues there. The chatbot doesn't ignore you though, because it can't, because you pay for it to be there. kekypow
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>>571122697
Do all of that afterward, like the guy who made the black hole incremental game. Getting suddenly successful brought up lots of issues.
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>>571122956
He's falseflagging ignore him
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obsessed
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>>571123105
I mean really think about it. You can go into the bant thread and shitpost all day, it's literally a shitposting board. He can't though, he's so terrified of being filtered and ignored for 1 thread. Most anons wouldn't even bother to filter him, but the idea of a single person effectively hiding him? That's too much.

That's why he alters every image he posts so it can't be filtered. This is a person who is absolutely terrified of not being seen or heard. The possibility of even a single person being able to shut him out, he will do anything to avoid that.
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>>571116425
I'm auditing the vibecode general from now on. I'm onto you clowns. Not a single project posted, just vague commentary about things. Tinkerers.
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Lmaooo
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>>571123971
Plenty of high IQ posters though with interesting things to say. A stark contrast to our little friend.
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>>571124441
/v/ no care?
Me no care.
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>>571124441
I'm scared valvebros I don't wanna lose this
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i'm a sleepy little snailcat
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>>571118783
trainwiz, you okay?
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>>571080618
hey FISH dev, what's your secret, your trailer has 120k views
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cpu voxel raycaster test

https://youtu.be/KgBZ_X2_h9A
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reload IK kinda working, gonna make the character mesh have fingers too, just one bone though.
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>>571126346
>ai chad: me
>snailcat: anti loli troon
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>>571126967
ludelusions
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>>571126898
>holding the clip while firing
Is this something that would upset /k/? Or is that how submachines are actually fired sometimes?
This is how much of a pleb civilian I am.
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chad: me, the guy who can use computers to make videogames
lud: you know who.
*glances at him*
Yeah him.
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>>571127691
he's doesn't know, they melted down all the guns after port arthur massacre.
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>>571127691
idk I just set it to that because its a child of the gun mesh and I already can make it move when i reload to test if it works properly.
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>>571127906
why is a chicken a child of a gun?
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>>571127691
That probably won't upset /k/ but calling it a clip instead of a magazine will
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>>571127313
dont most lolidevs here use ai?
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>>571127942
no I mean the magazine is a child of the gun mesh
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>>571128114
look you can use whatever ludcope you want, pdfs will be tortured down the line thanks to AI analysis, and yes I'm aware of who you are, and you will pay your dues
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>>571128020
What about the nanner clip.
That's a magazine but everyone calls it a clip.
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>>571128207
>the magazine is a child of the gun mesh
That's crazy. Does the father know?
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>>571128380
she is a single mom
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Mongol 1 and 2 are coming back to Steam in a week or two.
I will then start working on Mongol 3.
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>>571128417
cuckypow

That's my joke btw not the AI cucks. That's my word. You may use it if you wish. Except for him.
*glances at him again*
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>>571128228
ludcope
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>>571128763
meant for >>571128763
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You know the best thing about the lud obsession? Nobody here is a luddite, we all use technology to make videogames. No luddites here

he has been
ludcucked
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>>571128706
>he doesn't know
kraka-po-wa
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added a bit of shoulder/hip recoil lol - its a bit exaggerated but I like it like that.
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>>571129005
His head snapping violently is cracking me up. That gun is powerful af



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