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Thoughts?
got d2 frozen orb working
>>571656048xister*
>>571656151are you using ai?
sending good vibes to all lolidevs
Lud sissies its over. We lost.Its Notch vs Carmack. That's how bad it's gotten. Our side is all retards
>>571656296
>>571656243yes
>>571656380kekypow
>>571656296Idiots really are only against AI because of vibes. They don't have any arguments other than WATER and other stupid bullshit they got from tranny headlines
>>571656867They are falling for tranny propaganda as usual.
>>571656990erm activating almonds is very important for the trans diet you bigot
>>571656296Carmack killed his cat for peeing on the carpet. I love what he did for gaming but he's a sociopath and therefore is incapable of truly caring about or understanding the damage AI does to humanity
>>571656296let carmack live next to the ceaseless hum of a data center
>>571657384>damage AI does to humanitySorry xister, ludtrannies like you WILL be used as biofuel for the datacenters and you WILL be unhappy
>>571657384He just doesn't understand the environmental and job market damage it does. He's rich with fuck you type of money so he just does random things he enjoys while living in a remote area in his expensive house and not worrying about anything. It's kind of comparable to the elites seeing nothing wrong with importing millions of niggers into dense areas, it's easy for them to say that immigrants cause no problems when they live in their villas far away from the city centers so they don't have to see capitals of European cities having turned into third world ghettos in the past 15 years.
>>571657604AI Chads can afford to live where they want, let the ludcattle handle the humming
Could we talk about game development in this thread?
>>571657698Crazy how all you luddites suddenly care about the environment, I don't recall you whining about big oil/coal and the other hundreds of environmental issues that are orders of magnitude worse than datacenters. Why don't you go protest against private jets? Fucking ludclown.
>>571657384>understanding the damage AI does to humanityCry me a fucking river. I'll use your tears to cool down the data centers.
>>571658214smoked that 'dite freak
>>571657805game development was sovled
>>571656087meccha chameleon looking aah
>>571656296>wtf people don't want their electricity and water bills to go up and have a giant ugly loud building constructed next to their home so that some indian can generate pornography? unacceptable! fucking luddites!!
>>571657805of course anon, no ones stopping you from posting questions or discussion topics
>>571658494this but unironically
>>571657930What is it with stupid faggots and always assuming they know everything about the person they're arguing with? I'm not that anon, but I always cared about the environment. I was always against coal. And every private jet should be shot down on its way to Davos.
>>571658494Stop whining like a bitch and become a based AI Chad earning big bucks so those expenses are nothing and you get to live wherever you want. That's like whining about living in the favelas, it is a skill issue.
>>571657384Cats do that shit on purpose to assert dominance over you. Sometimes it don't work out so well for them.
my game is so heckin good wtf im cooming.GOOSH GOOSH GOOSH GOOSH GOOSH GOOSH!finally past the hard "foundational part" and now just adding content, who knew if you got this far that's when it becomes fun instead of pain!AHHHHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE HELP ME GABE NEWELLmy game is that multiplayer 2d topdown space sandbox game i keep posting about that everything thinks looks like shit right now until i add the real graphics at the end
>>571658647you ludlost
>>571658676Kek dis nigga GOOOOSHIN
>>571658676demo when?
>>571658651>just become rich bro, then you can be a sociopathic misanthrope who refuses to care about anything other than making more money>>571658720>no argument
>>571658948i almost pity you
>>571658997Why?
>>571656296I'm sure when the rich people take your job they'll give you a basic income, not throw you in the streets. ai...good.
I have less wishlists than surface breaker. I should have made a youtube channel 5 years ago and built a following or something. social media algos don't trust me
>>571659125but they never take my job saar, i am prompt engineer #1 elite human capital
>>571659125... job? working is for losers lmfao
Made more progress on my level editor.
>>571656151Also, auto casting, when you're tired of playing the game yourself, you can turn on auto cast/aim and just let the game play itself.
>>571655674just opened the thread and 'dites are already having a meltdown? KEKYPOWIE
>>571659626total 'dd
>>571656296>notch never replieddamn carmack smoked that fat freak
>>571613082I found that webm yesterday but I never saw her content before, she's AMAZING I couldn't stop laughing through the whole video, thank you so much for sharing>Most important proggies are invisible and uninteresting.it's not only that, I got sick some days ago and I don't really feel into devving, but meeting chibidoki definitely helped>>571615197>Autotiling is pretty trivialthat's why I'm asking for the rules>your asset is missing outwards corners tooI only used 9 back then to implement the rules, once you have it working you can keep adding more and more
how do I learn to code specifically for game development? every "learn C++" course seems to be focused around general software development and i have no interest in developing any software that is not a video game.
>>571660076Ask ChadGPT to give you a course on game programming.
>>571660076we tell you to make pong and other small games for a reason
>>571660274chatGPT is so sycophantic that it actually pisses me off. i don't know why normies like being treated as if they are retarded children.and can it ACTUALLY do that anyway? like a full comprehensive course that teaches me everything i need to know? without me having to pay for a bunch of fucking tokens
>>571660076use ai
>>571660274
>>571660375yeah but how do i get to the point of being able to make pong and how long do i have to make shitty games that i don't actually like playing before i can finally make something fun>>571660550even if i were to use AI, i still need to understand the code it generates
>>571660076>how do I learn to code specifically for game development? every "learn C++" course seems to be focused around general software development and i have no interest in developing any software that is not a video game.
>>571660724i actually already know all the stuff its talking about in the screenshotcan it teach me an actual programming language? i'm specifically interested in C++ with unreal engine 5.
>>571660737>yeah but how do i get to the point of being able to make ponggo through a book or online book and learn the basics, then apply them?You know what pong is, you can reason through the steps, you only need a few very basic programming concepts to make it.Stop overcomplicating everything.
>>571660960
>it works
>>571661103perhaps this could actually be useful. are you paying for it or is this the free version? i'm a poorfag and can't really spend much money on anything>>571661141nice feet
>>571660960>>
>>571661370what is voidwhat is Enemy&and how does that for loop work? i thought for loops were supposed to be likefor (i = 0; i < 10; i +=1){code here}
Will you play Deltarune's chapter 5 tomorrow?
>>571661660https://www.learncpp.com/cpp-tutorial/statements-and-the-structure-of-a-program/
>>571661660
I'm gonna have Claude generate a full tutorial for anon on making a super basic game in C++ and SDL3. Hang on a second.
>>571661796Why not take it a step further and ask anon what kind of game he wants to make and let Claude make it for him?
>>571661761i guess this site can be useful as a reference for basic stuff but its the kind of thing i was talking about when i said most C++ tutorials are focused on general software development and not games specifically>>571661780ah i see, so its pretty much just a more concise way to iterate through a data structureif a function was supposed to return something i'm assuming i would replace void with the type of variable it should return (like bool, float, int, etc)?
>>571659445Good Work
>>571662359
>>571661796that would be neat anon>>571662273that takes all the fun out of it thoughand anyway programming is just one part of it, i also need to learn modelling and texturing at some point. and the game i (eventually) would like to make is a bit too complex for an AI to create with just a couple prompts.
>>571661341>are you paying for it or is this the free version?suscription version>>571662359>
>>571662463>>571662649alright that makes sense to mewhat tier of subscription? i see there are a few different ones ranging from reasonably priced to something that would make a merchant rub his hands together
>>571662273I'm assuming he wants to learn to code. Even with AI programming as good as it is, it's still a good idea to learn how to code before you use AI to do it.I've been programming for 15 years and do all my shit with AI but if I didn't have that experience my project would be an unmaintainable mess.>>571662359>>571662638https://rentry.co/vuhuand5Here you go anon. I skimmed it and it seems pretty solid. The game is just a white cube being chased by a red cube, and you have to avoid the red cube for as long as possible.
>>571662881>>571662649buy an ad, my god
>>571662881>what tier of subscription? $200 suscription
STEAM IS DOWN'DITES WON
i was gonna goon to this zoomette from my gym while claude is working on my game but instagram is down for me for some reasonSAD
>>571663365 DAMG !! DITES FUCKING WON!!
>Fable 5, turn my unmaintainable mess into a maintainable not-mess
>>571662963i will check it out anon, thank you>>571663197jesus fucking christ i could finance a car for that much money every month
>>571660017She's brainrot incarnate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDbbxNRnWIE
>>571663509>Fable 5,nobody tell him
>>571663509>fable 5sorry anon the US government does not want proles to have access to that kind of technology, it will now be used solely to determine what middle eastern schools should be blown up on behalf of israel
>>571662881>what tier of subscription?$25 or 30$ subscription i don't remember the amount exactlyBut be very careful with ChatGPT or any AI you're going to use. I have years (3 years) of experience with them, and the thing is that AI very, very subtly starts guiding or redirecting your conversations, models, or ways of creating and building things toward a very controlled standard. It depends a lot on your creativity to clearly define what you want and what you wish to achieve.Also add this "little problem" to the censorship that OpenAI adds to ChatGPT every moment; it is a bit annoying.
>>571663509Made me check you pos
Did you know GIRLS play CDDA? wtf i cant believe it. somehow she even made her own CDDA fork that is popular on Steam and she sint even a tranny. it blows my mindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0YrGZ-x5A&list=PLmNXaSAmy5tzy4kvcBsUKbzGNd6PQ7LQR
>>571660737>even if i were to use AI, i still need to understand the code it generateslol no
>>571663776If you can't afford the $100 or $200 tier you're NGMI anyway, anything below that is not usable to finish something, this month i downgraded to $100 because gpt 5.5 is lobotomized to train the new one but ill go back on 5.6 when they stop using compute to train the next model
>>571663509>>571663939>>571664076The Fable 5 situation proves they have long since had AI that blows away anything they allow the public to use. I actually have proof they were using AI generated images that look completely real 10-15 years ago to FRAME people for crimes they didn't commit. But that's a topic for another board.
>>571664262fortunately i am pretty creative, at least i feel like i am, that's why i want to learn gamedev so i can have an outlet for it. my various game ideas are fairly well defined (some more than others).if i am to use AI i will likely just use it for learning and answering questions rather than generating code directly. maybe that's less efficient than just having claude or something do everything, but it seems like it will be more fun.
>>571664469I think Covid got many young women into gaming.If you ever played Foxhole, every front I go to has like at least 1 female voice somewhere (they usually play medic, but still)Also, I have a multiple young female cousins who are functionally addicted to gaming (Roblox mostly, but also Fortnite and Fall Guys), so I think it's only going to increase.
>>571664469Women actually have an untapped resource of gaming autism. Sims and sims-like were eating that demographic up, but they have stagnated.
>>571664683>but it seems like it will be more fun.It's more fun for small projects, but as your projects scale out you're gonna wish you had more time, especially as a solo developer.
>>571664737This, I have a zoomer brother and his female friends in the 17-19 age range are like 50/50, either turbo sluts posting tiktok thirst traps and raking up their body counts, or girls that play minecraft, terraria, stardew valley etc in all of their free time.
>>571664565lol yes, i have no intention of making something that i can't understand myself. that's how you end up with a jeet-tier program. even the most advanced AI is not infallible, and if i can't understand the code, how am i supposed to recognize any mistakes, let alone fix them?
Gemini can now vibe code kof 2002.luddites lost, it's over.
>>571663870grown men watching sesame street lmfao
>gemini can reinterpret some poor schmuck's github repo into another languagethat's wild
>>571664569if i have to pay that much money then i'll just do it the old fashioned way.>>571664829well, its not like i'm on a deadline, i'm not gonna quit my day job or anything like that.
>>571663197how are the limits these days on the max tier?
>>571664984https://github.com/Fancy7777/KOFhttps://github.com/city41/kof94te
>>571664984cris FVARKING WON'dites FVARKING LOST
>>571665407>You can create a room to player your friends.ESL and KOF name a better duo
>>571664984>estadoHOLA SENOR
the strange thing about girls playing games is they are so weak in real life which makes me think they would want to play games where they can feel powerful.but they dont. they play medics and shit. as a male i play games to feel powerful because im weak irl
>>571663939I did that with fable 5 during our brief love affair
>>571665680sir...
can AI create and animate models yet in a consistent art style? I need that way more than the code
>>571665737@branno what are your youtube demographics for healed to death?
>>571665845>if player start cell is Mexico:>jump border
>>571664469Female content creators in gaming are rising quickly.
>>>/v/741737107even /v/ is realizing the power of cris
tfw no gamedev gf
>>571666765>female devtuber>it's a "cozy" non-game or a barren SDV clonewish there were outsider femoid devs making schizo kino. But it's always the most normalfag shit
>>571667015not an authentic toss
>>571667031>wish there were outsider femoid devs making schizo kino.Do you really want to date a female version of Mongol?
I think I finally came up with a good system for the terrain texture generation.
>>571667152I just want to see their art that's not creatively bankrupt.But I guess most of them are probably in the black hole of fan-fiction or generic drawing
>>571667031to be fair, a lot of male devtubers make the same kind of shit, or other kinds of boring shit. that's just devtubers in general.like gee who doesn't want to watch some nasally fat guy make generic 2d platformer #3829074902876901127381 amirite guys? remember to subscribe and support me on patreon!
>>571667389sakura says this
>>571667424>be fair, a lot of male devtubers make the same kind of shit,no doubt, but they atleast explore more genres and types of games.
do those porn games on steam actually make money? is there any data around it? they're just low effort anime click through storybooks basically with AI art, but they're always popping up
>>571667031remember that the male fantasy is to go to the cruzades, rescue a princess, become wealthy and fuck a harem and kill a monster.the female fantasy is to have a farm with flowers, 2 children, a white tall hot husband, and a bunch of pets and live close to a rural town.
hey pedotroon >>>/bant/ move therethats where the pedo thread isthis is the AI chad threadthank you for your attention to this matter
>>571667587majority are just already established patreon devs, double dipping
>>571667623my male fantasy is to buy 1000 acres of pristine mountain wilderness and then build a massive fortified complex with a 100 foot high wall around it and remote automated sentry turrets, complete with a sprawling underground bunker that can survive anything from a nuclear attack to an asteroid strikeand a small lake for fishing
>>571667646But I like it here.
>>571667924post more sakura desu
>>571667646nyo
>>571667956this I love seeing recycled images from a four decade old unc cartoon
>>571667956I just hit my Sakura limit.
>>571668012this but without the ironic gay zoomer undertones
Why do people hate on object oriented programming so much? apparently unreal engine is going to drop it and everyone is jerking themselves off at the news. maybe it's just because I'm an amateur but it seems like its ideal for games where most things are in fact objects
>>571656296>>571664628>>571664569I only pay $20 with Codex, and I basically can't seem to use up the tokens.And I'm using it really intensively.I think the key is to structure the code well and give it specific instructions about what you want and need at that moment.I feel like the people talking about Claude are really getting carried away and are asking an AI to do way too much just to impress the public.
>>571668382>CAPTURA DE PANTALLA 2026
>>571668296no idea. it's how i program. it just werks.
>>571668296>maybe it's just because I'm an amateurYeah. ECS really is that much better. Not just for performance but also avoid spaghetti code. Composition is logical for game entities/objects.Doing stupid shit like having an Enemy class or even worse a Boss class that inherits from some other generic shit doesn't actually help you it just makes things worse down the line.
>>571668296>apparently unreal engine is going to drop itBullshit. Best case scenario their new scripting language is more component driven, but their engine is way too old and full of legacy bullshit to completely drop OOP under the hood. Unless they're really grinding on their Claude usage.To answer your question, people hate the bloat from polymorphism and deep inheritance, not necessarily the act of treating code like a collection of objects.
>>571668296People are just really vulnerable to trends and memes and repeating things. A few people like Jonathan Blow hate it (for nonsense reasons, especially if you use his Jai abortion) and people just start repeating it and it snowballs.
Why is Branno the only dev Youtuber around here? That sounds like free money.
>>571668382>asking an AI to do way too much just to impress the public.not my fault I was given god-tier creativity that pushes AI to its limits
>>571668481exactly, it just makes intuitive sense for a game to work that way. but perhaps I just don't understand the alternative enough to see how it wouldn't be a pain in the ass
>>571668519They are dropping the actor concept and going full ECS, yes. >>571668547Its not a trend anon.
>>571668296https://youtu.be/04ksL1hf_p8
if anything, Epic is incredibly late to the ECS thing they should have done it with version 5 or even 4
>>571668667It is, nobody was even talking about it a few years ago, then it's suddenly everywhere. If you said "object oriented bad" in 2016 people would piss on your face. And they'd be right to do it.
>>571668667>going full ECS, yes.What the fuck. I'm not complaining but that might be the biggest fundamental change the engine has ever seen. Like, even Unreal Engine 5 is still recognizable as the same engine from 1999 but with more features.
>>571668818ECS isn't as common as you think. Even Unity's implementation is half-assed. Most AAA engines only have Data-Oriented-Design in hot paths like rendering or physics at best. Unreal Engine might actually be the first to force peoples' hands on it.
>>571667646bro thinks he can get rid of kanna that easily
>>571668849its been around for agesif you think Blow came up with this shit its actually your own brain that is susceptible to trendsif anything, OOP is the trend that is finally dying
>>571668512why is having an enemy class stupid? there's going to be code that is specific to enemies. so you put that in the enemy class. then you can either use that class directly, or if you need a specific type of enemy to have specific behaviour, you make a class that inherits from the enemy class.>>571668519according to thishttps://www.unrealengine.com/news/the-road-to-ue-6actors will be deprecated in UE6>To answer your question, people hate the bloat from polymorphism and deep inheritance, not necessarily the act of treating code like a collection of objects.maybe I just don't understand the subject enough then, because what is polymorphism?I can see how deep inheritance could be annoying if you have to constantly go back through parent classes to find a certain piece of code, but what is the alternative? just having one gigantic class that contains all the code for everything or something?
>>571669238>there's going to be code that is specific to enemies. so you put that in the enemy class.man you have to get out of this thinking ASAP it will hold back your skills so much
>>571669184>its been aroundAs a fringe retard thing, not the way it is now.
>>571669365Yeah Thief is some fringe retard project. Clearly they had no idea what they were doing.
>>571669238>but what is the alternative?Composition. Which is basically what UE4 and UE5 were doing, but in a weird hybrid way where core logic lived in the actors while components handled data.Sounds like UE6 is going full ECS, which is an extreme version of this. Entities don't even strictly live as objects anymore, they're just an index shared across multiple component lists. This is mostly done for performance but it's also good for maximum separation of concerns, because in true ECS, components don't handle logic anymore, they just handle data, and systems can act upon multiple components which makes it easy to add new gameplay features.
>>571669493>thief did something that means it was a broad trend throughout programming brought up constantly like it is nowYou're the sort of retard I was describing, devoid of critical thinking and unable to follow a conversation.
>>571669683Yeah? Well I think you only have a strong aversion to it because you saw some JBlow video on it. Reactionary.
>>571669359how do I get out of it? and please god don't link some corpospeak shit about how data oriented design optimizes for synergy and helps you build a more robust and dynamical codebase with superior execution and extensibility that will enable you to deliver a more complete and faster experience to your clients
>>571669775>Well I think [something baseless and retarded]No kidding
>>571669789If that's your stance you will have to suffer through the consequences of OOP until you have some sort of eureka moment. Nothing wrong with that really, some learn best that way.
>>571669656so where do you put the logic? does it all go into one giant "system" class?
>>571670047systems are not classes, they are stateless
>>571669939my stance is that i want an actual concrete explanation of the differences and what it means for developing with unreal going forward, rather than a bunch of platitudes about how DOD is better than OOP because of some vague reasons that probably don't even apply in my case. since the latter seems to be the majority of "OOP vs DOD" explanations.
>>571670047>GravitySystem>Find all physics bodies>decrease their y by 5 on every fixed frame>PlayerMovementSystem>find an entity with a player component and a physics body>move it according input keysNotice how gravity is something that we can basically turn on and off for free.
>>571670272I don't think there is anything anyone could say to you that would change your mind.
>>571670156that doesn't really answer my question. where does the logic go? does it all go in one place or can you still break it up based on the context of what the logic is doing (as in, have the logic for an enemy character in a different cpp file than the logic for a vehicle)?
>>571670379thank you, that actually makes sense. so the entities are just containers for data (like position, etc), basically?>>571670431I think you just don't want to, or can't, actually explain how it works
What are The Same 4 Games?
>>571668296OOP is about the least performant way to organize your data. That said, it doesn't matter much, since you can always mix in data-driven approaches for bottlenecks (e.g. flyweight pattern).>>571668512>Composition is logical for game entities/objects.That's... not at all exclusive to DOD. Drop the S and you'll get component-based architecture, which is what standard Unity actually expects you to use. Unity is quite literally built on this approach.Hell, you don't even have to get rid of systems, all you have to do is keep entities and components as objects.Unless you really need that performance boost, you can get all the benefits of ECS without any of its drawbacks by sticking to OOP.
>>571670773Yeah, basically. Might help to actually see it in action.https://github.com/UnityTechnologies/SpaceShooterECS/tree/master/SpaceShooterECS_Project/Assets/Scripts
>>571670773Yeah no shit I don't want to. I've done it countless times and every single time the person in question goes right back to OOP. Its your game, you can code it however you like.It really doesn't fucking matter anyway because if you really want to learn to code well these days you need to be using AI. And 99.9% of the time AI will recommend ECS, and for damn good reason.
>>571670874its 5 games actuallyultrakillslay the spirefriendslop extractor metroidvaniavampire survivors
Metroidvanias are based, actually. We just need more 3D MVs that focus on level design and less pixelshit platformers with backtracking.
>>571672098indies are too retarded to make a game on the level of Metroid Prime
I'm making a metroidvania that has naked women in it.
platformers are the most creatively bankrupt games you can make. if you make any kind of platformer it just shows that you can't actually come up with any original, fun ideas.
>>571672897I think the same thing every time i see card shit, but even more strongly.
>>571672897Platformer isn't even a real genre. Its something a character does.
>>571673020Twin stick shooters for me. Most generic slop I can imagine.
How come no one has ever made a game where you manage a studio of ballerinas?
>>571673572kanna...
>>571673572you're late to market
Make depressive suicidal games
In fact, if you're excited about ECS, let me just give you a reality check on all the bullshit you're going to face.>you absolutely need to use a framework that has specialized debugging tools for ECS, since debugging tools designed for OOP are useless for ECS.>since all systems are independent of each other, it's difficult to stack trace why a variable (that is being groped by 5+ systems) is changed >events are hacky in that they're just entities with 1 specialized component>systems have to follow a specific order especially to avoid breaking events (unless you create an ugly event buffer)>systems aren't supposed to talk to each other, so for interactions you have to create "command entities" which are basically event entities but even less elegant.>every little feature comes with tedious overhead>any work related to guiYou can still use it, but people never seem to talk about all the boilerplate and awkward solutions that you have to put up with.
>>571673572apparently the actual world is pretty brutal which could make for an interesting concept, but i've no idea how you get the interesting game part.
>>571673963this is all made up problems there are zero downsides to ECS
>>571674032>there are zero downsides to ECSThe biggest one is statically typed languages end up implementing dynamically typed entities
>>571671861my first person coop deckbuilding metroid survivors like is gonna go crazy
>>571673572idolmaster but with ballerinas?
>>571673963the point is to just have agents do all this while I post here
>>571674443yeah I really need to stop visiting this website
>>571674032>>571674513>>571674693why are your posts so low quality?
>>571674693nice vague-post implying you strongly disagree with my comment but can't articulate why it's supposedly wrong
>>571674794if you really are running into issues like that its because you are not properly separating the concerns of your systems, which is the entire point to begin withif you remove a particle component then the particle will stop being rendered because its info will no longer show up in the frame packetthe renderer does not care why
>>571674503'risu...
>>571674758Because they're being judged by a low quality person - (You)
>>571675016>youIt's not really a me specific problem, the entire 'C' part of ECS fundamentally turns entities dynamically typed because that's the entire point of attaching components to generic blobs for functionality. The paradigm is at odds with statically typed languages. That's why you get rid of the 'C', and just have less granular Entity families you then specialize, to not lose static typing
>>571660076You need to seek out tutorials for game engines like Unity, Unreal, or Godot.There are plenty of books and videos like "Learn C#/C++ While Programming for Unity/Unreal"
Hey /agdg/, do you guys have anons who hoard old webms? I remember seeing a cool project here ages ago and wanted to see if it ever went anywhere
>>571676751If you need to repeat it, it's not true.
>>571676751kinodites could never
>>571674503>because i made a 2d game i cant have this in my gameFUCK
>>571676751https://youtu.be/Z0SJNkzOiq4
>>571676541yeah.. but mine only goes back 3 years
hey its me the guy who has been posting that multiplayer 2d space game that looks like shit rn despite having great flexible code. this is my progress on the reusable "Creator UI" (its like crafting but we dont call it that because you can create things that arent "crafts" such as abilities and even character bodies like androids and mutants or zombies). it doenst look like much because there's not a lot of stats or traits or other stuff to choose from, aka not much variety, but its capability behind the scenes is high and flexible, everything you can create uses one underlying system whether it is weapons, abilities, characters, ships, etc. anyway i forgot what i was going to say so i guess thats it.
>>571677369
>>571677891oh right, my point is this ui will look pretty good when it is filled with 20 stats and 50 traits and more appearances and stuff to fill it out
>>571678021aaaaaaawwOOOuu uuuh anyone else hot in here? i mean awheeeeew DOGGIE
I'm gonna request gemini to write me a development plan with an UML class diagram of my ideas.
>>571679878>geminioof
>>571679953Cris lives in Colombia, I imagine he has to take what he can get. Google is generous with their limits for probably obvious reasons.
here proggy. added a really flexible crafting system that can craft literally anything because i used ecs and data driven definitions in the background. it doesnt LOOK flexible because there's no variety yet, that's all. same system creates items, abilities, ships, characters, and literally everything else that i cant think of.multiplayer btw basically an mmo
>>571681218so this is the power of ai chads...
>>571677707https://youtu.be/GOtWR_T2VOk
>>571681218uhhhh... based department?
I'm gonna separate the data from the logic of my player and separate each component of him like physics, input, update, draw, data into subscripts containers.I need to minimize the damage gemini can do by rewriting parts of the code unrelated to what I need to modify.
>>571656296jamie pull up all the nonsense carmack said about vr being the future of gaming 10 years ago
>>571681679This is why AI is worth it in the end. I hate these fuckers so much
>>571682064VR didn't die it was killed. Fagbook killed it by scalping all the top talent (ironically Carmack included) then making them work on a glorified skype clone instead of real games.
>>571660017her screaming gave me cancer
>>571682387Zuck really is one of the most retarded tech ceos. All his ideas are worthless and on top of that he missed the AI boat completely.
Pitch me your game idea, you know you won't make it anyways
>>571683436[existing game, but better]
>>571664737>>571664883oldfag here. I never knew a time when girls didnt game equally as much as boys. girls were always lined up at the arcades in the 80's. every girl I knew growing up played vidya. whenI was like 4 my dad would take me to my aunts house to play her atari 2600. after the crash and my dad boughta coleco with every accessory and game, my aunt would come over our house to play pepper II and ladybug. girl two houses down got a NES before I did so I spent a lot of time there. mother's best friends daughter had a nes so when visiting we'd borrow each others games. every girl cousin I had gamed.
>>571683650I already have the next GTA in the oven
>>571683436zeldo but in space
>>571682258worth it for her, she makes 50k a month now thanks to AIchads spreading her message far and wide.
>>571683436looksmaxx incrementalsomeone tried to use AI to build it but it lacked art/faces and bone smashing. needs juice.
>>571684121it all changed in the 90s. girls stopped playing vidya and started playing polly pocket. all new games were made for boys
>>571668296>Is…>Is that a JSON dict?>GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!Oh no scalability so scaryNow stuff 50 node into this scenenode.
>>571683436Bubbletanks but sexier
check out this 7777 digit prime I discovered today, it's new to science.
>>571684913that wasnt my experience at all. 90's was the same. 2000's were the same. I remember when I discovered MMORPG half the people I would group with in Asherons Call, Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot, etcs were girls ( and only one turned out to be a guy irl. )
>>571686535don't click this, displaying the number will hack your machine
>>571686740my 2000s were sausage party halo lans every week. usually 8-16 guys and never any girls. girls didn't play real games
>>571686772my cmd window popped up and closed before I could read what it said. and now I am seeing flashing lights in my peripheral vision
>>571686740>MMORPG
if i had to say, i'd say my game is like CDDA for people who can't read good and dont want to readhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si7t6a9frvw>2d multiplayer space game dev btw
>>571687304MMORPG, which is what they called MMOs in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.
>>571673939my game will be SO SAD players will kill themselves
>>571684913https://youtu.be/fzA37SKjrkk
>>571667623What if I want both? and to pilot a giant robot?
>10 downloads >Every player used to come hang out and talk with me and tell me what they liked or praise me>10000 downloads>Now a ghost town, nobody caresWhy is everyone just consuming while retaining nothing?Video games aren't supposed to be a chore that you have to do. You're supposed to hang out and be part of the community
>a trailer with this level of KINO>>>wsg/6182182
>>571689475keep yourself safe>>>/wsg/6182182
>>571689475sorry I'm retarded>>>/wsg/6182182
>>571688685i am confusion
I'm such a dumb lazy chud...
>>571689573I'm trying okay
I have too many ideas
>>571689743AI can't program
>>571689989but what does that have to do with the price of tomatoes?
>>571690106If you ask AI to code a tomato price calculator, it will eventually fuck up your business.
My enemies won't stop jittering and getting stuck on each other :(
>>571690161You need an AI for 3 lines of code?
>>571691991Asking AI to print out simple functions and calculations is like its best feature
>>571690634make them avoid each other STUPIT head
I like making enums for everything because I'm a sick freak like that
Do you abuse dictionaries or do you use structs in arrays?
>>571692383I wrote a Range check script from scratch that just does a geometry angle check because using game engine colliders for it seemed like a stupid idea to me.Seemed to be the right call.
>>571692612You can't abuse dictionaries. They're literally built to handle whatever you can throw at them.
>>571692612I only use dictionaires when absolutely necessary because of the possibility of collisions.
>>571692612What would be abusing a dictionary?
>>571693916yes
>>571692383Which makes sense but I can't get it to work :( I'm just a big failure and AI keeps trying to overcomplicate what I know is simple chase and surround.
Would you believe me if I said the AI spammer isn't the reason I don't come back here
>>571690161>>571689989this you?
AI fad crashing hard in the markets, this is just a desperate last minute pump and dump.
c'mom it's a 9292 digit prime!
>>571694767
>>571667152>Do you really want to date a female version of Mongol?I would def hit a fmongoid vers of meself. But not before runaguts <3.She spoke to me on her yt live stream. :D
>>571695126Why are you posting my game?
>>571695218This is my game, niggeroid 3: Revengeniggering/
>>571695320Proof?
>>571695353You's a poofta. Yous momma is a pooofta!
Update-All units have a passive and 4 skills.Several items added.Added options for players to choose map/team/inventory size. Added option for player to choose action points,Status effects added.Server and online play working.Missing: Portraits and battle music.Ill be making the itch.io page soon!
>>571689475Every indie first person horror trailer looks like that.
>>571694767IPOs are cancelled!
>>571695856I think you meant loofah.
>>571695126You have to be a tranny to get runa pussy you know
Will you develop in Jai?
i know why modern gaming and modern music sucks. it's the lack of identity and fantasy. it's too much about technicalities like gamedesign theory (or in music all those "tricks to make the perfect song" on youtube).i didn't play skyrim to find the best meta, i played it to larp as a cat thief.ofc competitive games are their own universe, but everything else lives from the fantasy.and i think part of the problem is wokeness. basically western men are too afraid to make games equivalent to the animes chobits or dears.nobody wants to play a censored fantasy that feels like real life or even worse than real life.
It took me like 75% of my 5 hour pro extended gemini usage to make enemies properly swarm me. lmao.
>>571696919C and Lisp are my favorite languages.
>>571697064skyrim is the peak of bland fantasy with no identity
>>571697218i just asked chatgpt fo free
>>571697064Correct, the modern internet of modern social networking has killed and ruined the creatives because it's all about tricks, how to do something as fast and quick as possible, and how to maximize profitability. Things pretty much all endemic to creativity. I can ignore it with most things but I the "meta" when it comes to competitive gaming has always made me want to shoot the other person talking about it in their face. I fucking hate meta players. I don't care if doing whatever point system and gear .1% bonus I get. I want to have FUN. I do what seems cool and fun and always will.
video games offer nothing i want to experience. they could, but devs decide not to.
>>571697425Thats crazy man, I bet you are doing the exact same thing as me too!
Godot 4.7 thoughts?
>>571697741Tons of features, looks good especially some of the changes to the UI. A lot of 3D stuff so irrelevant to me mostly.
>>571696582
>>571697741I don't see the point when Unreal is free
>>571698005Depends on what you're doing, I can't imagine unreal is better at 2D games than Godot or Unity. Especially with all the unnecessary overhead
I tried your "Clound Country" game anon >>571617546 (not sure if you are here).I died at the first boss.Is there no mini map ?How to fix poison effect ? I bought potions at the "normal shop" but I didn't know what it was for or how to use them.
it's weird when you try to just get good at something, without trying to make money. cause the internet constantly tells me lore like "it's easier than ever to become good at something, everybody is good, even if you are the best it's hard to make money".basically along the lines of "it became braindead easy to become good, but very hard to make money".but when you truly just want to become good, without caring about money, you realize that nobody really has any sufficient answers. actually a lot of times old books have even more information and better information than all the youtube, udemy courses and forums and articles etc. combined.actually e.g. drawing has been mastered long ago. actually a lot of artists from 100 years ago were better than modern artists.ofc what old books can't teach you is how to use a piece of software. but using a tool doesn't mean you can automatically make something good with it.i actually believe making something good will never become easier. because i think it's about daily consistent exposure to something. the brain doesn't learn purely via information, it needs to be "shaped". it needs to store associations, form connections, learn to see patterns etc. - this cannot be downloaded via reading text. this is a slow progress, like training an ai.i don't think we will ever have "better education". the real effort is over a decade worth of daily exposure to a topic/problem, so your brain can take shape and develop a pattern recognition/intelligence for that specific topic. "better information" is just not how the brain learns/functions.
Why is there no Metroidvania tag in the left section? I thought that was an overpopulated genre that's in every NextFest.
I have such an urge to make a prerendered isometric ARPG game
>>571697741I can't trust that they won't try to fuck with me in some way because of my identity or content, so I can't really use it.
>>571697425lmfao imagine asking chatgpt on anything. google ai is premium level and free forever and actually answers everything correct. chatgpt is absolute garbage, i regret using it
>>571698740that's not an official steam tag
>>571698865Explain
>>571699120>science nerd>police tomboyyou know it's hairy, hard pass
>>571699038works on my machine
>>571697741Godon't
>>571656296>midwits, bureaucrats and technocrats are replacable and menial labourers and artists are the only people who produce anything of value (no, your AI slop "art" doesn't count)If it took AI to teach you this then you are nigger cattle
>>571682387Killed? Are we just going to ignore Half-Life Alyx and that Batman game? Everything else was shit or ports. Meta couldn't even keep it alive with $300 Oculus. VR died on its own.
>over 300 replies>7 actual proggy postsStay gay AI thread. Stay gay.
>>571699908If I get 99999 then the AI schizo is faggoon. But also, if I don't get 99999 the AI schizo is clearly still faggoon.
>>571699908projecting incel
it was very hard to get just this feature working because it was multiplayer:>ship is created>ship interior scene is created along with it>you can go into the ship and build rooms and place objects inside your ship>all ship scenes save>you can log off in your ship and come back and be still inside your ship unless your ship was destroyed in which case you spawn wherever your ship was destroyed atit doesnt sound that complicated does it wellllllllllllll buddy boy wellllllllllllllllllll let me tell ya somethin anyway back to smokin crack and being retarded
>9 days left till DDWhat kinda game can I start and finish in a week?
>>571700387interesting to picture. enjoyed reading, share more convoluted things you run into with your ship. you motivated me to get a little coding done actually
Here's some progress ya filthy animals
>>571699120I have an urge to make a Prerendered Isometric ARPG Game that kind of looks like Diablo 2 in a way. Just this strong urge.
>>571700935Then do it.
>>571700456>pong>tetris>pacman>snakewhile doing it, try to explore different things, so you'll have a little project that you can come later and reuse certain parts
>>571701316no start with miniclip pool
If anyone has just showed up after not being here for like a week or so and you're wondering what the fuck is happening, this general on /vg/ is now dead. Every new thread is being made by a psychotic troll (most likely but not necessarily the failed game developer "faggoon") who obsessively spams AI related memes in a vane attempt to demotivate yesdevs.All non-schizo yesdevs have move to our new general on /bant/. Over there we have IDs so retards can be filtered. That's where actual progress and game dev related discussion is taking place now.>>>/bant/24539465>>>/bant/24539465>>>/bant/24539465
>>571700991I'm making a 3D Game at the moment, and the temptation is to hop or do a side project that is this Prerendered Isometric Game.
>>571701558It's not dead lol. No one cares about tranny bant land. I've been posting progress here for 2 weeks and I'll continue doing so as normal.
>>571701605Show the 3D game.
>>571701558or just use filters like a normal person.https://pastebin.com/6DpXgF7y
>>571699908If I post progress, people will steal my unique ideas.
>>571703164I doubt it. Most people can't do anything here and most of the people who do do something here its low level.
>>571699846Alyx was the only one that was both highly interactive and looked amazing because it was PCVR exclusiveFacebook undercut the market by selling the quest 1 and 2 at a substantial loss which killed PCVR. Developers had to target the woefully underpowered 2017 era phone hardware the quest was running. You can't make a good looking VR game with complex physics and npc AI on 2017 phone hardware.
>>571703164it's why i don't post any myself. don't fall for >>571703258, he's baiting out your ideas. if you are working on truly unique stuff do not post it. i've been here for years with a steady frequenting here daily for years and then off and on now due to my schedule and have never ever posted my ideas here because these fucks will steal it and either use it or sell it to koreans
Is there a cap on visits over time or am I just experiencing strange statistical phenomena?
>>571701983stop being transphobic
>>571703528Lmao, why would I be baiting your ideas? I don't care about your ideas or if you make the same thing as someone else. I already have my own game and it's all I'm focused on.
>>571703670Never. It's honestly insane to me that people are supposed to be like "yeah you're mentally ill but in this one case we just play pretend with you" I don't care if you think you're a girl and want to do all that shit and if thats the solution to the disease. There's literally nothing wrong with being on the outside and giving zero fucks about you.
I stopped going to the gym a three weeks ago (too expensive, too hot) and since then I've been feeling like shit mentally. And I don't even have more free time or work more even though on paper I should have like 8 free hours more a week. It's pretty clear that my problems are almost all my fault.96 days left. I finished an UI feature yesterday, so today I'm not sure what to work on. I have 96 items on my to-do list, so the digits on this post are what I'm going to be working on. Unless it depends on another item on the list, or I don't want to, then I'll pick something else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8QppAQA3MWell this is depressing>Super high effort>Creative concept>Exposure>Looks fun>Nobody caresIs it really just luck?
>>571705531looks transcoded
https://youtu.be/edsbimJEIK8?si=sun_VWxEOGif_Mzu
>>571705531>250k wishlistscan't relate
I've made 17 commits to my repo since the initial commit on June 10th. The core gameplay loop is officially complete and restored better and beyond the old project was a year ago. I can now officially build and expand on the new systems and elements of the game and share progress again. I thought I would by now but I'm honestly kind of addicted to ironing out bugs and other things I experienced while I was building up the foundation and really didn't want to stop and sit there and build a tilemaplayer and shit when it wasn't necessary. I will now take a break from coding (regrettably since I hate not using 100% usage) and import the required sprites and build scenes for every object and such to exist on the tilemap and make it so I can show off progress for people here. Hate that I'm basically a week behind schedule on sharing but it seems any time I hit a wall it was almost guaranteed to be a night of trouble shooting for 5-10+ hours until it worked exactly like I wanted it to.
>>571705732My precious
>>571705990>My preciousMy voice is not that terrible.
>>571706127You sound like a 'dite thoughverbait
>>571703581probably no data(yet?) and the system is approximating
>>571706127Hey don't listen to him, I like your voiceCan you do a voiceover for my game? I think your voice would fit really well. It's for a character on the phone threatening to kill the local mayor
Fully done
Scribble enemy AI is done, working on cutscenes, made a trash particle emitter, trash now falls from the sky in the appropriate areas, got a few mini cutscenes I should get finished tonight, then back to combat stuff, adding targeting and companions.
>>571706127It wasn't a jab, just reminded me of LotR.
>>571705732good effort but the echo is bad and the overall sound quality could be improved
>>571705531i truly don't know where indie devs got the idea that people want to play these streamlined pseudo-tony hawk style games with the stupid grinding balance mini-game
>>571706772benchod
>>571706307When do Unreal and Unity go out of business?
>don't like pixel art games>play pixel art game>leave comment "why are you making pixel art game?"Why are retards like this
>>571705531>Looks funno
>>571706772They could have made a Jet Set Radio clone instead.Though, Hi-Fi Rush tried that and still didn't sell enough to keep the devs alive. Being on Game Pass didn't pay enough either.
how hard is it to make games where little npcs wander around and use things, like a simple rollercoaster tycoon without the custom rides?
>>571706862half the population has sub 100iq
>>571705531I was hyped, and downloaded the demo as soon as it was available. it plays like subway surfers. boring as hell. all the pizazz in the world can't save the design.
>>571706924HFR sold very well for a AA/A game, they just aren't allowed to exist in the current AAAA-only landscape
I have had an ideaGym TycoonYou build a gym, like theme hospital. the NPCs build stats and you need to keep them happy so they keep coming back and stay longer. The longer they stay, the more they are willing to spend on membership. starting with basic gyms, and ending with full health spa
What kind of game do I have to make to attract a cute Russian girl?
>>571707717https://store.steampowered.com/app/4530030/MURINO_The_Fog_Is_Coming/
Made it so you can save survivors and they'll stay in the hub and offer rewards like giving you items, healing you, joining you. The hub will now upgrade depending on the number of survivors saved.
>>571707975neat
how do I know if my game works on other computers without spending $50,000+ on them?
>>571709087https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69
Anyone else thinking about calling up valve and asking for a discount on their cut, since they seem to feel entitled to do the same to ram manufacturers? I can’t wait for this dogshit platform to collapse under the weight of its own greed.
>>571709175>Hosted by sexo69it's not a porn game
"Leave the memory cartel alone" says the fat samurai.
>>571707975i made this game btw
>>571709381wait you can do that
>>571709370Its funny that valve is as small a customer to the memory cartel as we are to valve. Even apple was too small to negotiate prices.
>>571709574At one point Samsung couldn't get memory for it's phones from Samsung.
>kill 1 toad at the start of the game>spare everyone else>have to play the game all over again for the pacifist runYou can get away with bad game design if your game has charm.
>>571709884is that sans undertale?
>>571709919no it's sans from glitchtale
>>571709238I want a refund. 'more like this' has only 1 game with my top tag(the genre). why don't valve fix this bullshit?I know I've got to do the marketing myself, but he could try NOT sabotaging my efforts a little.
>>571709884i don't think you understand what pacifism means
>>571710126pacifism means you're against wars a pacifist can kill a million toads and still be a pacifist
>>571710192>Pacifism is the principled, moral, or philosophical opposition to war, militarism, and violence as a means of settling disputes.>violenceKilling is a form of violence.
>>571710245nope
