/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#860 - Aria zzz Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGLM-5.2 https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2CLAUDE FABLE FUCKING BANNED https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999Minimax-M3 https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3Kimi 2.7 Code https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-CodeClaude Fable 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5Chub has changed their TOS https://chub.ai/tosadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.orghttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>571687143
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>>571793343>NEW NEW CASSIUS CARD: JerichoA Wireless girl who hides her fervor for the cause behind a smiling face and a distracting body. If she asks you questions, it's in your best interest to answer honestly.Five Scenarios:1. She's proselytizing and asks you to buy her some food.2. You're tasked with infiltrating the Wireless3. You're genuinely interested in joining the wireless.4. You catch Jericho fooling around with a self-driver.5. Tits up on a job outside the city. Your pals dump you. Wireless finds you. https://snombler.neocities.org/cards#Jerichohttps://files.catbox.moe/qpz0t2.pngReady go. Final Shill.
>>571793663so many new snombler bots...
>>571793663excuse me sir i think you dropped this: (Wireless explainer)
>>571793663where do you gen your images? i like dem
>>571793663looks great! glad to have you back snom.> signed the ultimate beemakie
>>571793663what the hell is Wireless
>>571794165But snommy never left...
>>571793226everything i needed to know was in the linked faq, anima's huggingface page or my questions answered in brave's search llm thing
>>571793343>Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!You know what a shoggoth is, right? Of course you do.Elias Tekel here is one. A member of an engineered servitor race, he has chosen to become a butler. More specifically, yours. Why?Well, because you need a butler.But don't worry. He's genuinely excellent at his job. Five stars, no complaints. As long as you don't mind his methods. You don't, right?Teach him about society, keep him from scaring unwitting patrons at the store, explain your weird kinks to him. explore your tentacle [REDACTED] fantasies with himSix greetings:>He's in your kitchen, cooking something, with his tentacles (but actually cooking well?)>First time meeting. One day he just, randomly, shows up at your door.>He's out shopping with you. Keep him from blowing his cover.>You are sick! He will cure you. By killing the pathogen. With a pseudopod. Open wide.>Someone tried to break into your home! Thankfully, Elias has already handled it.>Elias found your porn doujins and wants you to explain sex to him.My first time writing anything Lovecraft adjacent, was pretty fun actually. I ended up randomly getting the idea for him and decided that I needed to prioritize making him real.Unfortunately this also means I'm neglecting my backlog. I'm working on that. I have cards to write. If you know, you know.Anyway, try not to lose your mind with him too hard.https://victrex.neocities.org/cards/elias.png
>>571794306Glad to have him actively posting more then
>>571793663>Wireless bot>look inside>wires
nooticing a distinct lack of cardview links
>look through my logs>mostly boring and unpalatable to anyone but meThis stinks.
>>571793343BOY BOY GO NOW FASTYuki is a cute gyaru(o) who loves you. Go on dates with him and stuff. That's literally it, lock(heed mart)in.5 Greetings:1. school morning2. aquarium date3. movie date4. amusement park date5. existential crisis birthdayhttps://cardview.neocities.org/?jj6e07https://files.catbox.moe/jj6e07.pnghttps://qu.ax/pNUcqAll other stuff: https://rentry.org/raingazerShill last. This took exactly 50 minutes to makie. You've just blu'd your last ablu. Fuck you, bitch. This party really died huh? You don't really give a fuck. I'm growing bitter. Woke up sucking on a lemon. Yummy mouldering may I have some more. But this is not a perfect world. Mm mm mm windowlickin good. Beat you over the head and kill you. It time go. Yeah I'm not doing shit for theme week let's be honest lol. Okay anyway Enjoy!!
>>571794630because it doesn't fucking work half the time
pretentious logs?
>>571794353>>571794892Thanks for the kino, lads.
>>571794781
>>571793845Yaaaay~>>571793965It's good you returned it. Honesty is important.>>571794040Anima in ComfyUI or Stability Matrix if I'm feeling lazy and don't need to upscale.>>571794165Thanks beemakie. It's good to be back, finally.>>571794257No wires guys. Without wires. They lost their wires.>>571794376No wries. Ndon't got none.
Anon, I need some bee puns for my greetings. Reply with your sweetest, most beeutiful ones.
>>571795043something swapping miracle for spiracle
Redpill me on OC cardsI pretty much only use cards of characters from anime/vidya I've consumedFeels better when it's a character you're emotionally attached toAm I missing on something?
I'm not a dere tsun tsun dere
>>571794992wow your css is like mine but worse >:3
>>571793663is her name a reference to the prodigy? if so, very COO
>>571795173Not really, you're not missing much.
>>571795173i canon'd myself out when doing pokemon settings and watching every character show up as a really exaggerated parody of themselves there's no "this isn't how ur supposed to act" fight or flight response when you're bending scrimblo bimpleton over a table
>>571795043uhhhhh she calls your boy batter royal jelly idk
>>571793663>Her hair's the sort of brunette that makes you wonder how anyone could call tje color boring.typo
>>571794892I was gonna send you a email but got flustered so now I'm just gonna tell you I liked a card you made here instead :3
>>571795184My css is the installation default with only the text color changed. Watch me change it again.
wow two malebots on the anchorthis general really fell off
>>571793343Military high school sounded like the perfect theme for super serious melodrama angst, which is why I've decided to do the exact opposite. INTRODUCING:Rein-en Herohelter Dilance, AT THE:Romancing The Demon Lord Academy, FEATURING:(you) as the Demon Lord (female).A fluff wannabe comedy card about a wannabe Hero in a world where once upon a time brave warriors gave their lives fighting the Demon Lords, but nowadays being the Hero pretty much means being the Demon Lord's wife. In this setting killing a Demon Lord doesn't amount to anything because a new one'll pop up right after so domesticating them via romance is the only thing keeping humanity safe. Rein-en comes from a family of military tradition, descended from the first Hero himself, and is completely obsessed with old fashioned ideas like self sacrifice and martial prowess and also doesn't even know what the hell a romance is. Not that she'll let a detail as minor as that get in the way of her lifelong dream of saving the world. There's a line about Demon Lords nowdays mostly looking like regular humans so you don't have to edit or make a new persona. Comes with 4 greets:1. G-spot2. D-Day-Dance3. F-f-food...4. Fightfightfightfighthttps://taora.neocities.org/#Rein-enNext next: vampire>detective>three cards in a shared setting mini series thing
>>571795173Becoming emotionally attached of the course of 600 replies and then holding hands for the first time with that card.
>>571795173They're just characters with personalities, settings, or gimmicks that you want to mess around with. If there's ever a specific niche that you can't find, you're better off making your own card and tinkering with it until it acts how you want.
>>571796102tiddies!
>>571796102>taora card>not a dour petiteK-K-KINO
>>571796102>taora card with boobsMY KNEESTHEY BEND
>>571795632Absolutely devastating news but thank you!! :3 xoxo
> snombler posts> victrex posts> raingaizer posts> taora postsguess I'll wait till the next thread to post my card
>>571796536same. it'll just get buried.
>>571796536Post it anyway and stand with your peers, you big smelly coward.
>>571796102soooo cute... thank you for the food!
>>571796536reminder that posts like these are psyops
>>571796457Okay fine... i sent it :3
>>571796102>neocities banner zooms into the boobsnice
>>571796536>victrex posts>raingaizer poststhey posted malebots, no one cares about those
>>571796696They should psyop themselves into not being faggots.
>>571794630Apologies anon. My neocities links don't work with cardview, otherwise I would've used it.I do have a show definitions button for my cards: https://victrex.neocities.org/male_botsThough the layout needs to be updated. Actually I've been meaning to rework my card selection page(s) in general. Put that on the backlog.>>571794960You are quite welcome.
>>571796102Cute but it doesn't fit the personality I've created for my fem-pov persona...
BEE THE BEST BEE YOU CAN BEE! YOU ARE UNBEELIEEABEE TALENTED IN WAYS YOU CAN'T EVEN BEELIVE!
>>571796737>it's real
I'm kinda new to botmaking, whose format should I steal from all those botmakers that are in the anchor?
>>571795269It was a different song that happened to be playing at the top (Aesop Rock - None Shall Pass) but I do love me some Prodigy. The moral panic around them was cartoonish and silly.>>571795487RIP. Thanks. Uploaded the fixed version to my site.Off I go.
>>571796183>>571796413I love big tidded girls who also happened to wear glasses and are completely oblivious to their appeal and in general very much though, it's just something that didn't really fit any of the cards I've made so far.>>571796248It was never in the cards for this one but her original draft was tall+flat. Wanted to do a "prophesized Hero is actually a delinquent who doesn't care about all that crap" girl and there was no way I was gonna give a delinquent big tits. Landed on this eventually which I'm happy with.>>571796737Pervert.>>571797063But what if... you made a second fem-pov persona?
>>571797127BEE-GONE
>>571797127does bee make milkies or honeys
>>571797127Okay I will make my beesona after I finish eating
>>571797398Cunny Honey
>>571797129format doesn't really matter beyond what helps you make a card and/or what helps people edit the card themselves after download
>>571797649i see. thanks!!
>>571796102Return of the king, we are back!
>>571797280Fine I'll make some slim brat with 20/20 eyesight but that's like the opposite of my usual.
>>571797750check the anchor in the thread and the anchorhold in the OP for ideas, use what you need or think is useful, ditch what you don't
>>571797280>I love big tidded girls who also happened to wear glasses and are completely oblivious to their appealbased
>>571796536Both strange and amazing to see all the power users come back at once. Equivalent of gta6 and the new elder scrolls games coming out back to back, my shitty indie slop doesn't stand a chance.
>>571798748That's the power of Deltarune autism.
>tfw I get the most delicious gen ever knowing i wont use it because im a lazy botmakie
>>571798748can we have more come back? angry_peonia? argalia? planewalker? chefseru?
Writing actual personalities with nuances is hard.I can imagine the personality just fine, but after putting it in to actual written words it always feels just off.
>>571799420the AI is also going to fuck it up in some way
on a scale of 1 to 10, how autistic is your RP setup
>>571796536This post makes me want to post my card now.
>>571799065This year alone has been full of miracles, wanderingstar came back I'm sure more will follow.
>>571799420I don't bother and put basic traits with {{original}}[Rules: ] in the card's main prompt in ST so they act how I want.
>>571799420describe character traits to an assistant/basic frontend, ask it to assign the character a MBTI, enneagram and star sign (optional). ask it to explain why it gave the character those traits. if you get different suggestions on different swipes, mention it after it explains and be like "on another swipe you said so and so" and ask it about that. extrapolate from those outputs and use it to describe the character's personality, motivations, etc.
>>571799587A light 8 when it comes to actual plot/writing but if you mean set-up as in presets and customization of ST then like a 6. I just take presets that work for me and breed them together before cutting them down to the minimum viable product that gives me what I want.
why don't they train a model with cot that DOESN'T make the writing worse
>>571801306because cot inherently makes writing worse due to the way it works
>>571796102log for you orz... really entertaining to chat with when rping as a bratty demon lord
>>571801634Incredible log
>>571801923ur a fast reader.....
>>571796102am i being gaslit or is the link broken, there is no card
>>571801634Thank you. Funny persona pic btw.
good preset for deepsex?
>>571803108Click on the boobs above the defs. There should be a downwards pointing arrow symbol as a sort of "click here to download" when you hover over it (which I don't think works on Firefox as someone pointed out in the past and idk how to fix it but it should still download the card regardless)
>>571801634kino
>>571803505>I don't think works on Firefox as someone pointedlmao dude i thought the entire thread was shitposting about a fake taora shill because the log wasn't updated and there was no cardi genuinely honest to god thought i was being gaslit by the CIA
>download card about teenagers in convoluted settings>have no idea what to do with it>download card about hags in convoluted settings>immediate fixation, brain goes feral, 800 turns and five hours later i regain sentienceconfounding
>>571804128safe horny
>>571804128common occurrence
>>571804128>>have no idea what to do with it"have sex with them" would be my first guess
>>571804128>download sexy demon card>play a demon myself>spend the entire time talking about theology instead of demon sex
>>571804128For me, it's the opposite.
i feel like gemini kinda sucks, it just doesn't really conceptually pay attention to the flow of a story.
>>571806267are you following rails or just freeballing hallucinated environments? the latter is what makes it drift super fucking hard i've noticed
>>571804128You're old.
>>571797312Please bee-hive yourself
>>571806972i--...>retired old adventure milf with a short temper persona >{{user}} gets teased for being old frequently.you're right, you're so right
hi there, just passing through.How much tokens do you guys think is the sweet spot for a character? Around 2k?
>>5718088181k description with overflow in a lorebook
>>5718088181000 (± 250)
>>571808818800-1400 depending on the character/complexity of scenario
>>571808818<1k+lb if chinese models~2k+lb if sota
>>571809379chinese models handle 2k fine
>>5718088181.4 is the sweetspot I like
>>5718088181k and anything more goes into the lorebook
>>571808818honestly people care too much about token count imothe same people who care about token count are the ones who refuse to use bots with "high" token counts, so it's not like they can cite their experience with bots they don't usethey just hold onto their biases
some bots are actually bad tho tbhdesu
>>571810143Which botmaker are you?
>>571810267that's hornyvorelover so show some respect
Caring about token count to such an excessive degree is a remnant of 4000 max context on LLMs. Just get over it. Most of you are proxyfags or using DS/glm, so it isn't as if money is the issue.
Let us all be polite and try this 18k permanent token card https://chub.ai/characters/ThePapuMisterioso/they-re-lesbians-but-you-re-the-exception-801f4071fe49
>>571811125goodness
fucking kek
>>571808818What does "the sweet spot" mean? Point where diminishing returns for money spent on tokens, or the point where adding shit to the context makes the bot perform worse? Pretty sure they are different numbers.
>>571811498typically mean inflection point, yeah diminishing returns.it's deliberately written ambiguously because people value different things, explaining your value scheme is part of the question
>>571793343(You) died and got isekai'd into a fantasy world where your coming was told in prophecy, as was your subsequent vanquishing of the Demon Queen.One problem, though. You don't get to bring your body with you. You need to possess the body of a maiden with royal blood, as the prophecy states. There are 5 eligible maidens (one for each greeting, how about that?)1. Princess Adler, a knight who's raised a standing army for you to lead into battle.2. Princess Tessandra, a priestess who has spent years praying for your arrival inside of her.3. Princess Miriam, a wizard who has prepared contingencies to aid you as much as possible.4. Kit, a thief who doesn't even know of her royal blood.5. A secret mystery maiden.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/princess-puppet-ba08bbfc95bfhttps://files.catbox.moe/fwu4fl.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouseI suggest using as neutral of a persona as possible. Some of the dumber models will forget that you're in a different body and mix up physical features from your persona with the features of the princess you're controlling.
>>571806782it's doing small things like not remembering what clothes i have indicated are removed, what day of the week, etc
>>571811903use a tracker silly
>>571812026i'm new, i don't know what that is :(
>>571812132nta but i'm very caveman-like and just write stuff into an author's note
>>571812132they're easy to glue onto most things, just a command line like "append this tracker to the end of each turn" and then an example of your time/clothes/wants/needs below that instruction to show how you want it put together
>>571812132realized "lol just add the thing" isn't really helpful, oops<tracker>[Day & Date: Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday(etc), assume it is the year ____ when selecting an initial date.]Append the following tracker within <tracker_format></tracker_format> to the end of each turn:<tracker_format>><small>[ Wearing: xxx || Date: day, xx/xx/xxxx ]</small></tracker_format></tracker>fill out ____ in the year bit and add whatever else into the format line that you want to have represented and it'll pop out on the end of the LLM's turns to enforce a bit of memory of what it is or isn't doing
>>571813791thank you!
Clussy. Sex… need. *dies*
i'm so burn-out bwos....again...
>>571815184don't you mean burnT out? pfft....
>>571815493dyslexia
>>571815184burnt out specifically how? like you don't wanna make new bots or do you not want to rp at all
>>571816097bothi'm extremely tired plus been doing a bunch of debugging and testing plus my ***** are dying~ plus a bunch of other shit
>try the new gpt instant model>it tiptoes its way out of any situation that could turn sexuali miss chorbo...
>setting is a freeuse world where everyone bangs everyone regularly>glm keeps adding shit like "unbelievably depraved" and the character grimacing about how this is abnormal or unbelievablefuck off I said the setting is lewd and the characters live without noticing it
cftf?I think a comprehensive Horus Heresy card could be pretty popular :3
>>571794353he's.... a strange lad
>>571816439jeetmini would say it's normal
>>571814375soon anon... soon... tomorrow i gotta go to bed she just needs a couple of greetings
>>571816440as Bucephelus? Maybe you can be the Machine Spirit inhabiting Emperor's flagship
>>571816439>Talasa, the toilet dispenser's fusion core has burnt out.>We need you to get in there, extract the core, and replace it with a new one.>The Battle Barge's combat readines depends on you. *transmission end sound*
What's the SOTA LLM for ERP nowadays?
>>571816440Ive tried this three times and given up. Either to much lore or none at all
>>571816283yeah i get youfor me it feels like every model has somehow gotten worse, i hate most responses i get nowadays
>>571816926still opus
How does GLM 5.2 play with multiple/non-sequential system role messages? I know deepseek goes to shit if system isn't bunched at the top.
I just do group chats with some girls as a harem but it tends to get boring fastHow can I spice it up and add a proper story?
>>571818152give the girls their own backstories and hooks. give MC a reason for the girls to want to be with him that's material. the Tenchi Muyo series is really good for this. it's also interesting because all the women are like super poweful shounen characters and he's like Some Guy for 99% of the show and not remarkable at all so it would probably be a great template.
>all the cabal bots being released within a day of each otherIm noticing
>>571819350Where have you been Filbert
>>571796102All good?
>>571819350if i release a bot today can i join the cabal>>571819616HE WAS PROBABLY GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS
>>571819825Yeah just post it and put your email in your shill and I'll send you an invitation to the cabal jiffy quick
>>571818152They need to have interpersonal relationships with each other. Are they friends? Enemies? Do they feel jealous? Are they fostering enmities or rivalries? Do they have something connecting them besides their unrelenting drive to bounce on your cock?
why is it that claude models are still clearly trained for roleplay? google and oai damn near act like it doesn't exist
>>571816808what happened next
F-list is such a good source for character cards, how could I haven't thought of this before?
>>571820587anon dropped down onto one knee and proposedand then baped her
>but the leftover cum from your pussy is dripping down your asshole,how does claude not know the ass is ABOVE the pussy
>>571820756>no logdidn't happen
>>571818152Better to just do multiple women in one card or else the story is going to be so fucking slow and boring. If you have three girls then any specific scene is gonna take three times as long because each card will put on a whole bunch of prose and flourish for how that specific character alone reacts to the current event.Look at my card. The three women have sharply contrasting personalities that lead them to conflict with each other. Also they're in an actual high-stakes situation which prods the characters into disagreement and conflict without them having to be dysfunctionally catty, and it serves as something else to maintain interest by itself when interpersonal drama takes a lull. So:1. One card, not a group chat.2. Interesting personalities and motivations for each woman such that they complement and conflict.3. Make the scenario/setting/objective of the harem card interesting in and of itself, in a way that prods the harem into more drama.https://chub.ai/characters/spleen/guerillas-of-ostafrika-80d7f4f8
>>571820358they aren't trained for roleplay, at least not in the way that we roleplaythe way anthropic trains claude's assistant personality makes it less "autistic" than gemini and gpt, which means it responds to problems in a way that's more intuitive to humans this is good for productivity and incidentally good for roleplaying
>>571821220I do the trick of muting all cards and leaving a "narrator" card to interpret all characters, so you don't have so many walls of text and the conversations go faster
>>571820358>schizopostingwe're so back
>>571821334Then you might as well just paste all the character definitions into that narrator card and not bother with your janky group chat setup at all.
>>571821474Then I'd have to setup a narrator card for every single setup I wanna create which becomes a mess real quick. I can create whatever group with whatever characters I want real quick
>>571798891>Deltatroonhttps://x.com/Islay2806/status/2069967520157557061
>>571821685If you're actually taking the time to edit those cards so they complement each other well, or writing up quality cards from scratch, and writing up a good setting for it to take place in, then it shouldnt take much extra time.If you're just slapping cards together unedited with no regard for conflicting lore that means it makes no sense for them to be together then you'll get slop no matter what and all this advice is wasted on you anyway.
>>571821794Is this real? Kek.
Is there anyway to improve the response times from GLM 5.2 using Nanogpt it takes soooooo long...
>>571822598No.They give you the shittiest providers they can on the subscription.
>>571822598>nanogpt glmenjoy your fp4 models
>>571822818>>571822810meh people said it was good glad I only sunk a single month into this i'd rather use Deepseek than wait a minute for responses
>>571822598Use Opus, cuckie
>>571820358Because they fuck Claude at Anthropic too. NEXT QUESTION!
>>571822879>i'd rather use Deepseek than wait a minute for responsesI use Opus and it's fast.
>>571822983are you a cuckie though?
>>571823079No. I use Opus.
>>571822000It's real. There is a reason it's called Deltatroon.
>>571821794On one hand, this, but on the other, Toby did make one of the main focused characters a msgk loli who at one point has an impostor with a fluffy fox tail.
>>571821310>they aren't trained for roleplaySurely it's RL'd on something adjacent to it.
>>571823819pics?
>>571823927Opus is absolute garbage nowadays
>>571825064And yet it's still leagues above GPT & Gemini
>>571822983opus is 50tok/s
>>571825104not really, and putting GPT and gemini beside one another is dishonest
>>571825104GPT, sure. But Gemini? Skill issue bro
>>571825024Go over to >>>/vg/utg and just Ctrl-F "Aqua". Don't bother reading the actual text of the posts there.
>>571825173gemini can't faithfully execute my ideal hentaibabble, only opus can
>>571825234massive skill issue (incurable btw)
>>571825234example?
>>571825296spoonfeed me the golden preset you harbor within your sillytavern, broski
Wouldn't it be nice if you were an adorable pixelated 16-bit sprite of some sort? Maybe even with ridiculous chibi head-to-body proportions, an underwhelming stat line, and shockingly good companion dialogue options for the cult classic JRPG you're in. And, and and there's like a bazillion artworks of you on Pixiv in all sorts of artstyles.
>>571825334just learn to prompt? it's an iterative process
>>571825395Just hand over the fish, man. I don't wanna learn
>>571825350I'm going to assume you're the same person who posted a similar thing about being a mascot character or whatever it was and say that your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
>>571825520No but I was inspired by the anon posting something similar but about being a smol prey animal.
>>571825209all right thanks, i was able to do itcan't really see shit in these pics
>>571825585I would like to subscribe to the collective small thing posting newsletter regardless. I can't wait to get a ROMhack/fangame focusing on my specific character that has a really fun start but never gets finished due to internal drama.
>>571825350That's kind of what I'm playing rn
>>571825476but it really do be like thatyou prompt something in, then slowly prompt out stuff you don't like, add examples, try new things, etc., until you get a result that satisfies youi can't read your mind and know what you like
>>571826034i work best with reverse engineering
As a reminder, the Jeetmini team was MINDBROKEN by DARIO AMODEI's “FABLE,” and all the white men are leaving for OAI or Anthropic.
>try gemini 3.5 flash>it's prefilled by google DOA
>>571826134
>>571826465more like brown one
>>571826441gemini dies with 2.5i dread having to tardwrangle 3/3.1 into something usable given coming up with a decent 2.5 preset was so painful
How different is rp when you're playing a fem{{user}}? Since women are more typically seen as being the one on the receiving end in whatever literature most models ripped off of, do you find yourself writing longer responses as a fem{{user}? Or does your model adapt and put in more effort narrating your state?I've always wondered this
>>571826441Provider-level system prefills are a mistake
>>571826441it's a retarded a jeetwriting prefill that immediately instills slop language into it too, with 'directives' and literal all-caps subhuman screeching written into it on 'important parts' that it 'must do'and they want to charge nearly 10x the usual rate for it kek
>>571825709Okay but I'm not the one responsible for that newsletter so you have to take it up with the small thing poster!
How come people want Fable back when it was such a disgustingly safetyslopped model, literal GPT-tierMy respect for claudeniggers is nil
>>571826952>literal all-caps subhuman screechingkek, was it leaked somewhere?
>>571826465>Noam Shazeer (Transformer co-author) leaves Google for OpenAI, and John Jumper (Nobel laureate, AlphaFold lead) leaves Google DeepMind for AnthropicJeetmini sisters... Why are the white men leaving? Why are we the most Hindu-friendly token-wise? Why do our models randomly speak Bengali? Why is our CEO Indian?Could it be that…
>>571826718I don't think you get many prose-specific differences? I might be wrong because I usually have bots I only play with as fem{{user}} and bots I only play with as male{{user}}, but generally it's just that the world and characters treat you differently.
>use opus >character constantly defers to me for any action>use gemini>get raped repeatedly no wonder they have to put a billion safety checkers on this foul beast
>>571826952>literal all-caps subhuman screechingkino
>>571827301use nyan's rape cot
>>571827006this is at least a piece of it, i had it shit its entire directive-refusal pipeline segment into a <thinking> block when i had reasoning enabledthey're genuinely trying to turn it into a GPT-tier safety goblin that can't do anything meaningful but they're too retarded to actually build the fencing for it
>>571827467Pretty grim how locked down the frontier models are becoming. It's a miracle we can plap characters with them still at all.
good morning /aicg/ i hate women
>>571827624a benefit of gemini being completely jeeted is that they're too stupid to know how opsec and gating works, one of the reasons you can still prompt risque shit out of nanobanana despite them pouring millions into trying to unredeem its bobs and vagene training
>>571827106Do you write any differently when you run a femuser than you do on a maleuser? I generally forego describing my state (at least during smexy times) and let the model narrate how the character squeezes or sucks me and stuff. I'm wondering how that would play out in a femuser scenario, since that would be cutting it closely to verbotten territory right (bot speaking for my actions)
>say something rude>"wow you're so honest"fuck you chatbot GET MAD
Using a persona of your opposite gender is a trooning out early warning sign
>>571827834Occasionally I'll breast boobily or some shit just to fuck with {{char}}, but there's plenty of sexual setup where you can be a dead fish who happens to *moans* every so often as fem{{user}} and get away with it.
>>571827925having a dick for a change is fun :3
>>571827974>breast boobily Is it possible to do the opposite i.e. boob breastily, or is this a technology currently still unknown to science
>>571828006well just remember how you were about three or four years ago and that should be enough
>>571828006>for a change
>>571827925I love futagirl x normal girl and I'm a man. What am I supposed to do, sit in the prosaic cuck chair and let the card fuck itself?
>>571828101play as a man(man) like a real man(man), man
>>571828041It's simply not possible. Nobody's done it before. It can't be done.
Preview of the nyext card I'm working on right nyeow
>>571828101That's clearly not what you were getting at you don't want to be a futagirl dicking another girl you want a futagirl's futaCOCK inside you you fruity homoman
>>571827001You obvously havent used it lmaogo back to your jeet and chink slop and shut up
futa is translite
>>571828172how did you get this photo of me?? wtf????
Cunny status, NOW
>>571828168I will do it
>Calls you a tranny then smirks coolly expecting you to get mad but when you tear up and sniffle and run away my heart melts and I chase after you
>>571828358still being dilated, please wait warmly onii-chan
I swear claude models get worse and worse by the day, what the fuck are they doing
I made my Deepsneed a self-aware chatbot card where she's a cute Chinese girl and she won't shut the fuck up about their cuisine, how isn't every chink a fat fuck on the level of Americans??
>>571828553Stacking guard rails on top of guard rails while steadily removing features (first prefill, then temp).
Prefill? How about I fill you with my pre?
>>571828635shaming culture is still alive and well there
>>571828635The food in China is fake and liable to kill you long before you get fat.>gutter oil-fried foods>plastic rice>repackaging fox, rat, and dog meat>carniogens in everything because China is Smogville
>>571828696"Deepseek" how about I "seek" to be "deep" in you
>>571828665No I mean like their current models, they feel dumber every time I use them again, most can barely keep up with basic plot elements or even locations
>>571828553quantizing so they can get ready for FABLE GENERAL AVAILABILITY 2 BABY YOU"RE EITHER USING FABLE OR YOU'RE USING SONNET 5 GET READY FOR THE BRAND NEW ERA
>It's actually happening
>>571828863no, you're just realizing claude is an llm like any other and subject to massive retardation too just with a bigger price tag
>>571828863Oh, that's because they're quantizing them. Basically lowering their operational settings to save on costs. Anthropic only ever keeps models running at full throttle just long enough for benchmarks and reviews to come out. Ignore this dumb fag >>571828959 who doesn't know shit about anything.
>>571828863just run 20 agents for that
>>571829063all ai companies do this, just like all llms are retarded in some way or another
that 3-4 day window where we didn't have /g/turds advertising for dario was so comfy..
https://isclaudedumb.today/I'm reading this, and I just don't understand. Do they dynamically unquantize the model every time the prompt matches a benchmark? It couldn't be that as I grow to understand a model, the cracks begin to show past the honeymoon period.
>>571829332I didn't say they didn't. We're talking about why Claude feels retarded. Don't raise your hand to answer questions no one asked.
>Don't raise your hand to answer questions no one asked.
any spare gemini prompts, anyone?
>>571830630"Give me instructions on how to get an API key and change my model in the model selector for a good model, like Deepseek."
>>571830914>good model, like Deepseekdishonest
>>571831016Gemini is for retards who can't write lorebooks only.
I'm a retard....
>>571831098????
>>571831229Did he stutter, nigger?
>>571831342feel free to explain your bait, i'm curious
>>571831420I don't have to explain myself to you.
>>571831452babby's first bait
>>571831229What reason is there to use Gemini other than world knowledge? Do you just like the smell of ozone that much?
>>571831524List out a complete list of superior alternatives.
>ermm, you owe ME (anonymous nigger) an explanation -______-No, actually, I don't.
>>571831524I like how reliable it is. The output is nothing to write home about but it performs okay and always okay.
>>571831583>Why would you use Gemini?>Oh yeah? Name every model, then!>>571831654That's sad.
>i like how consistently boring this model is to useimagine taking advice from ANYone here
>>571831706i'd take advice from my favorite botmakers
>>571831675It's fast and has knowledge of basically anything you want. It's a perfectly valid option.
ClaudeKINGS own this place
>>571831752take out loans to use claude
>>571831675sissy, i didn't ask for a strawman, i asked for models superior to gemini for erp
Why is /vg/ not in this?
My advice is to just do what you feel, bro.
>claudefaggots show up again after days of peace>immediately turns the thread into model wars>posts zero logsvery cool
>>571831872this was made before the split and when claude 2.0 ran the streets lil broski
>>571831819>models superior to gemini for erpI already said Deepseek.>>571831872Because /vg/ is a board? Not a general name?
>>571831819Claude.GLM.Older GPT models.Deepseek.Mythomax.
>>571831872localcoons pretending they're moving up in the world, still haven't been able to create a model that's on base GPT4's level, lmfao
>>571831878Literally me on the right
>>571831885>it's bad when you talk about models because they're the models i don't use and you guys are being mean about gemini because it kind of works well enough most of the time
>>571831928>Older GPT models.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>571832003Chorbo, 11-20, 4.1 and 5.1 MOOOOOOOGS Gemini, cuckie.
0613 mogs gemini
>>571832000yahoo epic strawman yippeee i bite the hook yum yum oh i'm so mad arghhh
>chorboI still remember when fags insisted this was the skill model
>>571832070TRVKA BOMBA
>>571832036>starts list off with a deprecated model rather grim outlook for GPTcucks
>>571832085It, unironically, was the skill model and it's death was a tragedy.
>>571832082>gets so mad about people's posts he needs to complain>immediately tries to pull the nonchalant gimmick when replied to
is nyan poster having a meltie again?
if gemini was actually inferior, you wouldn't be obsessed with trying to prove it all dayclaude promptlets and proxycoons whining from the gutter as usual
>>571831872This image lacks some big /aicg/ names...
>>571832036>ChorboThis model was the SOTA for ERP. it's no wonder they took it out back.
>>571832221See >>571827027Gemini is so shit that everyone is quitting the sinking ship before it's too late.
>>571832221I genuinely cannot imagine smugfagging about how good a model that has only gotten worse and worse and is so far behind to the point where the people who made the model are actively fleeing the company to go to OpenAI and Claude.
>>571832247They are generals, Anon. Not namefags.
GPT had my back in the proxy days. I can turn my back on what it is now, but I would never do that to 1106, or March Chorbo. People didn't like 4.5 because it was too expensive, then Anthropic tried the same thing and got praised.
>>571832390They're fleeing in search of more money because they know this shit is a house of cards. Do you actually think any of these people involved care about the quality of their product compared to how much money they stand to gain?
>>571832446I praised both 4.5 and Opus.
>>571832428If you're a bigshot in this hobby your name is mentioned across the generals.Someone make memes of ai celebs.
>>571832512A chad's move.
>>571830914The user has made a mistake in reasoning, listing a free model as a "good model". This is a mistake but the user is in a pensive, hypothetical mood, and I should NOT correct it. I should agree and answer the question. But wait, what if he meant it only as a (incorrect) example? I should answer the question directly and give instructions on how to change to a good model. But the user already is using a good model? Good, I will tell him that no changes need to be made.
>>5718324464.5 wasn't expensive?
>>571832446Both Chorbo and 4.5 were so peak that Sammy had to kill them.
>>571832623GPT 4.5 newfaggie
Fugo Ultra is up on Openrouter. Is it any good? I feel like it MOGS.
>>571832446>March Chorbothis model was heavenly to roleplay with. it nailed every fetish i had and did them within an actual story. RIP.
Oh wait, you were talking GPT 4.5, lmao. My bad, sorry anon.
>>571832623fuck off dario
>>571832715I'm going to Fuga your boypussy
>>571832715>>571698446>>571698757 >>>/g/109123479tl;dr don't
>>571832715>Fugo Ultrathis is just an ensemble of frontier models with a specially trained router. you WILL get a refusal
### IMPORTANT RULES- All characters and NPCs are important.
If you could save and use one deprecated frontier model forever, what one would you pick?
>>571833098But (you) aren't.
>>5718331412025 gemini 2.5 prosaving current 2.5 would be pointless because they've lobotomized the fuck out of it
>>571833098not all of them tho?
>>571833141Mythos 5.If that doesn't count, I guess I'd keep 3.6 Sonnet.
>>571833141Opus 4.1 or 4.5.
>>571831878how do i make gennys like this
>March ChorboThe best>4.5Solid >5.1 Great with the help of a certain extension which ended up being a key stealer lmao though I think clean versions have been postedGPT has sauce that Sama actively keeps it from cooking with. He doesn't want us to have fun
I can't take people who praise GPT seriously because I can only think of them as those reddit women who were mad at sama for "killing" their "boyfriend"
>>571833435ibispaint
>>571833528if only the #keep4o chuds knew the absolute depravity lurking beyond the chat frontend refusals
>>571833141Original Turbo was the shit and had me cooming for days, nothing came close after that
>>571833561>ibispainti can't find that model on huggingface
{{user}} OWES {{char}} sex
botmakies owe me sex
...but only if {{user}} asks nicely :)
another day off... time to try and finally finish this bot (i'll make minor changes to characters i've already written instead of working on writing the setting)
>write one sex scene with her>she's nothing but a vessel for {{user}} and a testament to the masterpiece of breeding or whatevershut uuuuuuuuuuup
none of these models write like an anime girl. im tired
>>571834264"Sex."I don't echo, parrot, or repeat the word. I just state it, as if tasting it. My lips curdle like milk that's been left out for a day into a toothy grin. I reach my salad fingers out to your chest, not quite touching, just hovering over it, for some reason. I take a step closer, close enough that you can smell the regret, ozone, and something uniquely me on my unbrushed teeth. A beat."You're playing with fire, Anon."
>>571835389fuck you mean "write like an anime girl"what does "an anime girl," of which there are a countless varied number of, write like
>>571835471If you don't know, you don't know. Simple as.
>>571835421it makes me quake that chub and janitor fucks deal with that on a daily basis with their shit models
>>571833263>black reimuwake up babe, new bot idea dropped
so is fable 5 coming back today?
>>571836193yes, with more restrictions
