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>ski ticket edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>571754036

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived.
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730
Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Vermintide 2:
Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528

>Also Exist:
Space Marines 2
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday
The Outlast Trials
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Forever Winter
Killing Floor 3
John Carpenter's Toxic Commando
Far Far West:
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:

Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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Who will be the next new class?
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>hadronslilcogchamp
>>
>weapons
Arc maul and laspistol
>blitz
Noospheric Command
>keystone
Flensing
>ability
Voltaic emitter

This is officially the meta
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>>571805174
i dont even remember this being an issue in OG darktide since dispersed shooters reformed into firing lines prior to firing
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OHHHH, WE'RE HALFWAY THEEEREEEE!
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>The Martian Hunting Rifle was a Garand

That's beautiful.
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what did sweden mean by this?
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is flensing that good? chord claw redline has really nice synergy
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>>571805727
its not so much a garand so much as a rifle fed via a double stacked stripper/guide clip hilariously shaped like an enbloc
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>>571805852
all of the keystones synergize well with all of the abilities
some more actively, some more passively
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>>571801359
The chinks are spamming the forums calling people white pigs, uncivilized savages and most hilariously "worse than the japs" atm. The funny part is how they can just do it and none of the mods do anything. Racism truly is only a problem if it's not aimed at white people. Actual mask off moment there. Internet jannies give no fucks about racism, they just want to stop YOU from forming in-group preferences.
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>>571806062
disagree, i feel like redline only really works with chordclaw
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>>571805910
and just so happens to ping? And have 8 shots like a Garand?
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>>571805269
fug, my mouse's button switches are double clicking again, time to pour some vodka on it
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>>571806071
They’re still crying about the century of trolling we pulled on them. Thankfully it’s mostly limited to the sweaty nerds who pollute western online spaces, the irl ones tend to love Whitey
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>>571806071
>The chinks are spamming the forums calling people white pigs, uncivilized savages and most hilariously "worse than the japs" atm
what the hell? why?
>>571806193
>and just so happens to ping?
A garand:
>open the breach
>load the rifle
>lock the gun
>fire 8 times
>ejects the last round as well as the en-bloc clip
The martian rifle
>load the rifle
>lock the rifle, ejecting the guide clip, which comes with its own ping because yes, stripper clips are designed to be slammed away by the locking mechanism depending on your rifle

The source of the ping in both cases is some part of the gun whacking the clip out and away from the rifle, but theres a HUGE difference between "at the end of the clip" and "signaling that the gun is now loaded

The only reason this makes sense as a design is because its still plausible, but that ofc the mechanicus would have an STC for a garand, but completely fuck up the superior method laid out by john garand
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>running matches on uprising to help new players with martyrs skulls
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arc maul voltaic shart is actually pretty good

kinda mogs trannyblades chudclaw as a melee imo

try it if you haven't yet
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>>571806786
I think the only genuinely stinky pairing so far is
>mecha Power Sword
>chord Claw
>any of the precision guns
there is so little horde clear you just get overrun
everything else sort of just works
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how the fuck do i use the medicae servo skull? i had all 3 talented but could never get the revive to work
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>>571805709
the trick is to realize it actually is skit's best combat ability, instead of a chore to be done with
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>>571807196
look at downed person
press your grenade key
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>>571807196
You just point at them and push Q. It might be different if you also have the flamer, idk I didn't take that garbage. You might be getting confused because you do need line of sight, and it can be hard to tell if someone is behind some bullshit when they go down a million miles away.
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>>571807196
hold Skill button and aim at downed guy until heal icon apereas
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>>571807196
look in the general direction of your teammate (clear LoS)
tap G
watch the blitz counter go down by 1
pray it worked
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>>571807196
It's really unintuitive that it initially teaches you to use the servo skull on hacking skulls with an entirely different button.
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>put on Noosphere (extended mix)
>queue up
>4 skits slow-walk advancing with their braced arc rifles lighting up the battlefield
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>>571807196
>>571807335
Ah sorry ignore that, I forget I rebound my blitz off G.
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>>571805709
I think I'll equip the bubble shield and blindly run into gunners to proc it, instead of tactically using my resources and playing the game. Sorry in advance.
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>>571806163
nta but when I was going through the keystone/ability combos for the penance I wasn't having too much trouble maintain max redline stacks with any of the other abilities
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>decide to go lore diving on skitarii again, it'a been a while
>look for art
>it's all pornsick tranny sissy shit or chibi stuff
>troon painted units and circlejerking eachother that they'd be queer
Why in the sweet fuck is the regressive, fervently religious body horror faction a troon magnet? Why are mutilated tin soldiers now femboys and sissies?
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>>571807214
Yeah, spamming it at 1 charge in conjunction with arc maul/rifle. The malfunction feature is a shitty unreliable gimmick
>doesn't work on enemies if they're not in shooting mode (meleeing or running)
>doesn't work on flamers (no reload animation) but does work on trappers, funnily
>if they are hit by the initial shock then they don't get malfunction'd
I just wish it wasn't so long to complete compared to the others
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>>571807196
the prompt on the bottom of your screen will change whenever you're selecting a suitable target. hold G to aim, then release accordingly. if you want more surety/practice, then untalent the flamethrower servo skull; you won't be able to deploy anything other than the medicae option. Once you get good at using it, you can switch back to flamethrower skull
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why would I ever not pick the medicae servo skull
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>>571807917
how the fuck did that get past testing
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>>571807335
ah okay, i was wondering if taking the flamer stopped me, since it takes up the grenade button
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>I own a Galvanic Rifle for home defense, since that is what the Omnissiah intended.
>Four chaos cultists break into my domicile
>"What the tech-heresy?" I say as I put on my Martian-Red robes and limb augments.
>Blow a golf ball-sized hole through the first heretic. He's dead on the spot.
>*PING*
>Draw my Phosphor Blaster on the second cultist.
>Misses because the machine spirit was upset and hits the neighbor's servitor.
>I am forced to resort to the arc rifle at the top of the stairs loaded with a full battery
>"For the Machine god." The lightning flash-fries two heretics. The remaining charge arcing off their bodies shorts out the power in the rest of the hab-block.
>Unsheathe my transonic blades and charge the last terrified pre-servitor
>He bleeds out waiting on the enforcers to arrive since vibro-weapon damage is difficult to repair
>Just as the Omnissiah intended
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>>571807835
You really don't get why a troon might be attracted to the philosophy of cutting away your useless parts and replacing them with something that is, to them, ostensibly better? That said it does annoy the fuck out of me too.
>>571808192
No no, see >>571807820 it's definitely not Q, that's just MY blitz button.
I'm looking at it in the grinder with both on and honestly, I do not know how you'd invoke the medicae like this, it seems like it would be very easy to misfire and get a grenade when you want medicae or vice versa.
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>>571807835
The transformative cybernetics they all use make them the easiest to fantasize about for transexuals besides slaaneshi daemons/cultists.
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>>571807835
>>571808398
such is the troon, to corrupt, pervert, and claim everything you hold dear
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>>571806578
>what the hell? why?
After crawling their reddit equivalent for a bit, there are multiple reasons.

1. They seem to believe that western servers have half the difficulty of HK servers, so to them when someone on the forums says "x is OP" then it's a stupid whitey playing on whitey-H40 (nerfed difficulty) ruining the tools they NEED to beat hong kong H40 (full difficulty)
2. They believe that fatshark balances as per fatshark forum feedback. They don't know that nobody cares what goes on there, and that Fatshark balances by metrics and playtester feedback and sometimes just pure arbitrary dev decisions.
3. They hate whitey because of an inferiority complex. I consider myself pretty racist but the way these people talk about white people is incredibly funny. Half the posts are whining about how whitey is racist, the other half is calling to burn whitey at the stake and genocide us, no joke. Those are literal posts I saw.
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>>571808672
im no white boy, but from my experience
>play dota
>play [your RTS here]
chinese have
>poor communication
>tunnel vision
>INDUSTRIAL FANS
>a desire to ping shit you DONT need to know information about, to the point that you get distracted and choke, and then they make fun of you and assume youre shit at the game
>all while they play like shit
and thats china hour in DOTA2 to a T
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>>571808672
>I consider myself pretty racist but the way these people talk about white people is incredibly funny.
Chinese racism is incredible. I dated a chinese woman once and she's the most racist person I've ever met in my life, and I grew up in the American south. She was racist about black people though so it was cool.
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>every single skit node is a buff that has to be stacked 5 times by squiggling your sboinkle to get the same amount of buffs every other class gets by just picking their own +15% damage node
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>>571808983
arbites shoulda had a borzoi
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When did Fatshark lose it? The Vermintide DLC classes were all far more unique, Darktide is just regurgitating the same slop. Is there a secret A team working on Vermintide 3?
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>can't equip the other colored skit gear I started with, only the color from my origin forgeworld (Ryza)
Just me or is this yet another known bug?
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>>571808398
I get the transhuman part they like to asspat eachother over, but admech transhumanism is turning yourself into a fleshless machine eunuch so horrificly scarred that you hide the sins of flesh beneath cowls and robes. I know they grasp at anything but fucking hell.
>>571808471
>>571808635
>sexless horror machine people and grotesque demons
Really activates my almonds
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>get sniped AND hit by a poxburster during dark communion cutscene
2 players instantly got downed
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>>571808954
a racist 5/10 chinese gf would cure my chinese hate
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>>571808983
yeah but they have like 3 times as many as other classes so skitarii really ramps up like a motherfucker
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>play a game of psyker with 3 skitarii
>my respond to compliment lines dont even play, and i'm complimenting psykers and arbitrators
why do basic things get broken with these updates for fatshark
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>>571809201
I got tired of her pro-China propaganda after a while, it was just childish. She had all kinds of tales of Chinese superiority but the one I always remember is her insisting China actually invented the pizza and Italians stole the recipe from them.
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>>571807835
would recommend the skitari book, its fucking great
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>>571809345
the reason this is bizarre to me is because
>the tomato doesnt originate from italy OR china
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>>571809443
They put onions sauce on it instead
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>>571809092
When all of the actual movers and shakers on the team got poached by other teams, i.e. Arrowhead scooping up multiple former fatshark leads to work on Helldivers 2. Some other anon can explain the details, I'm too sleepy; let it suffice to say that Fatshark got Ship of Theseus'd in record speed and now can only just barely keep their engine's lights on, much less make any drastic changes or additions to what's already there. The remaining crew literally, without exaggeration, do not possess the knowledge to do so. If they are making Vermintide 3, it will have to be in a different engine (most likely Unreal because that's all the current team is trained for, iirc based on some anon's linkedin nosing).
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>>571809395
Skitarius or adeptus mechanicus?
>mfw remember I have a signed copy of mechanicum from a lifetime ago when the author did a signing at local store
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>>571809497
how the fuck do you purport that a society invents something as generic as
>a flat bread
and
>the act of putting a smear on it
thats fucking convergent/coincidental
like no shit a baseline intelligence would have people thinking bread is plain as FUCK
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might be schizo but i swear there's a hidden modifier that scales with level, where shit you buy at brunt's will rarely have a 60 dump stat until you hit 30
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>>571809443
It depends on how loose your definition of a pizza is, I guess. People were making them long before they had tomatoes, but they were a lot different back in ye olde roman days. https://youtu.be/eEgSGkp8nMA?si=-6sVhE8sS2F_rtX_
>>571809620
You're not a schizo, we were discussing it this morning when some guy with the auto-buyer mod ended up with 3800 combat knives because he tried it at like level 5 or something.
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>>571809553
>Arrowhead scooping up multiple former fatshark leads to work on Helldivers 2
of all the people to scoop up, the most potato moded coders on the planet?
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>>571809620
not schizo, they made that change in the last big crafting "rework", wait until 30 before gambling
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>>571809345
chinks have an extreme inferiority complex because in their country they can't even drink the tapwater without shitting themselves to bed, but their government insists they must measure themselves against white people and overcome them by being the superior civilization.

So aside from being fairly underdeveloped societally, they also are incredibly fixated on white people and it results in seething jealously.

They also think ogryn is incredibly OP btw
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>>571809715
>>571809791
i was right...
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>>571809715
>but they were a lot different back in ye olde roman days
thats what im saying
you cant invent
>having a [carb], and putting shit on it
its like how
>wow, look every conquering society has some method of sticking a sharp pointy thing into another person or object
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>>571809734
Believe me, I love shitting on Fatshart and Sw*des in general but even I have to admit that whoever spearheaded the melee combat in the tide games was on some serious secret sauce; it's no wonder other studios would be champing at the bit the moment they saw an opportunity to scoop that guy up
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>>571809843
Well, I'm pretty sure Italy would still be the ones taking the credit for the modern-day version of a pizza, after tomatoes were discovered in the new world. I could be wrong though, I'm not a pizza historian, I just eat them.
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>>571809819
given how the only ogryn players ive seen are all concerned with
>making noise
>quoting memes
>insisting theyre protecting the liluns while being the most downed people
that checks out
>>571809890
right, arrowhead, for helldivers 2
superb melee that game has
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>>571809592
honestly both, the skitari book in particular is one of my favorites, but most of the admech books are great, some of the HH books are a bit slow but still good
it made me regret putting the regular hoods on my vanguards because i just liked the regular hoods over the chrome dome helmets
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>>571809937
well for one thing i prefer pizzas made by illegal migrants and italians than i do fucking chinese
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>>571809996
helldivers 2 is a game thats designed like the bugs are the ones playing it
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is there a mod to remove the fuckass black trail of smoke left by the arc rifle that completely blocks your vision?
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>>571809996
>superb melee that game has
hey now, i never said that fatshark employees would do good work in other studios
just that they objectively have at least one ironclad accolade under their belt that would make them look like desirable hires on paper, no matter how you slice it
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THE Kuli briefly showed up in my match before leaving seconds later
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literally my first skit game
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>>571810176
Plus it's not like Arrowhead was some prestigious triple A company, people gotta remember how small HD1 was and how low their expectations for HD2's playerbase was when it came out. With VT and VT2 already being out and successful, and in a similar game genre, they were probably plenty happy to poach whoever they could from Fatshark.
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>>571810176
so what did that translate too really
>highly effective shrapnel gun that got nerfed within a week
>a highly unwieldy 1200RPM LMG whose max fire rate got nerfed WITHIN THE NIGHT it got launched
>Sniper whose scope was misaligned
>LMG whose scope was misaligned
>the fucking retardation that is scramblers and call in disablers WHILE nerfing the railgun whose shining strength was ignoring the stupid fucking modifiers that made missions genuinely unplayable and 90% of callins unviable
and need i forget
>the textbook "did these retards playtest ANY of this SHIT
that im familiar with in darktide
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>>571810036
I'll look into skitarius and admech then, thanks anon. Any other skitarii related/focused books while I'm at it?
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>>571809345
> I always remember is her insisting China actually invented the pizza and Italians stole the recipe from them.
A lot of them say the same thing about spaghetti and noodles too lol.
>>571807835
It’s gotten REALLY bad in the past few years specifically sadly.
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there is not a fucking soul doing expeditions past the first two nodes, and on the first two nodes you take the risk that the people in your team are going to have just bought the game today and somehow managed to get themselves stuck in expeditions with no fucking clue how to win them
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>>571810478
Right; it's still genuinely insane to me that Helldivers 2 exploded while Payday 3 and Killing Floor 3 have dropped off the face of the earth. The past few years have been shockingly tumultuous for coop niggas.
>>571810521
Yes, we all know they are shit at balance and make constant terrible decisions. Are you denying that the tide games have the best melee combat in the coop sphere by a disgustingly large margin?
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>>571809819
>they also are incredibly fixated on white people and it results in seething jealously.
Sounds like this is exceedingly common in many “people” of the world…
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>>571810478
>Plus it's not like Arrowhead was some prestigious triple A company, people gotta remember how small HD1 was and how low their expectations for HD2's playerbase was when it came out
theres a baseline you can have
>NOT having a vitriolic dickhead community manager so bad they had to sack his ass and apologize on his behalf on discord
>NOT nerfing shit nonstop while having blatantly broken shit like flame doing 4x damage and only working for hosts
>NOT having retards cope big time on screen about how NONONO youre supposed to hit the chargers in the HEAD, never mind the fact that we designed a fucking 2 hit rocket requirement AND have buggy hitboxes that swallow your rockets
the immense feedback from everyone calling them fucking retards for designing the big glowy spot to not be a weakspot was incredible
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>>571810612
>you take the risk that the people in your team are going to have just bought the game today and somehow managed to get themselves stuck in expeditions
The fucking campaign progression ushers you towards it so early on in the leveling process too. I've been ignoring that waypoint to go unlock it on several of my characters now.
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>>571810734
>Are you denying that the tide games have the best melee combat in the coop sphere by a disgustingly large margin?
absolutely not, im tilted at the possibility that the people behind it are working at arrowhead though
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>>571810734
Payday's demise was so tragic, I wish I could go back and play the PD2 launch again.
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>>571810787
i dont mind expeditions
the real issue is
>people running into the open and getting picked apart at range
or
>inexplicably splitting off and being woefully unable to survive
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>>571811030
Oh I just mean to say it's a terrible mode for a new player to get funneled into
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>>571810760
eh man i've been on nigerian forums, they don't mind whitey and they're more concerned about hating eachother for which tribe their family is from.
chinese are just whitey hate on every single thread
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>>571810896
>the possibility that the people behind it are working at arrowhead
It's just the eternal Sw*dish Shuffle. They'll be back at Fatshark again some time within the next decade; capricious and pernicious, those little shits.
>>571810968
impressively bleak
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>>571811213
>payday 3
>release to severe backlash
>go on holiday and do nothing to plug the holes in the sinking ship
swedish law is genuinely bad for making product
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If they fix the grabby hand exploit before fixing whatever they did that broke my wallhacks I'm going to SHIT
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>>571811192
>chinese are just whitey hate on every single thread
they will still be seething about their "century of humiliation" in a thousand years
that anger is the only thing keeping them going, it'd be cruel to take it away from them
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very cool
>but why are you shooting at poxwalkers
the same reason anyone intentionally plays like a retard in this game, some stupid fucking penance
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>>571810785
Helldivers was THE game to set the new standard for the genre. Baffling how they fumbled it so hard
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>>571811192
Their women also crave BWC like crazy so that probably doesn't help their attitude.
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>>571811346
That ability can't hit enemies that are running perpendicularly
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You are using extra battery for arc rifle, right anon?
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>>571811346
Yeah some other anon said hitting lateral moving targets in general is bugged with the Galvanic
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>>571811346
He was sprinting perpendicularly to you, no wonder the shots didn't land
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>>571810556
the other book i was thinking of was tech priest, its the sequel to skitarius
the great work is cawls backstory and i love it,
and the forges of mars are solid from what i remember but its been a while
mechanicum is also a good read if a bit slow
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>>571811318
>swedish developer
>release game/major update
>immediately leave for a state-mandated three-month holiday without taking a day to put out fires and release patches for even the simplest bugs
hmm, now where have i seen THIS storyline before...
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>>571811518
>bugged
if you count
"that retarded thing that makes ilas unusuable against moving targets and causes ghost hits and has been a feature of the game since launch" as a "bug"
yeah i guess you could say its bugged
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>>571811476
>spent years seeing arc rifles just be solid blue or green painted like plasma
>its actually closer to the wunderwaffle
im still not used to this
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>>571811626
dont i know it
the longest excuse for a while for arrowhead was
"sorry we heard your complaints but we dont have a skeleton crew and our key staff havent all made it back from holiday yet"
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for every holiday that ends, two shall take its place
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>>571811740
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Why do people hold onto the med pack like its some rule to only use it at the finale?
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>>571812130
if i don't need it, then you don't need it either
toughen up
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wait the fucking lieutenant grenades are affected by gravity and roll down
just got raped by the grenade following me down the stairs when I tried to avoid them
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>>571812192
My brother in the emperor the guy holding it died previously and was at 2% health.
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>>571812130
because if everyones fucking up now, its going to be a shitshow in the finale
The real issue is
>fucking idiots who drop that shit in the open with no cover, baiting people to go get picked apart at range
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>>571812282
he's saving it for me so i can pluck it from his corpse (i will not use it either)
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>>571812285
>because if everyones fucking up now, its going to be a shitshow in the finale
I'd rather be at full health when we get to the finale instead of limping there and using up one of the 4 full heals before it even starts
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>>571812282
>dumbshits who pick stuff up and forget they have it, dont worry their ammo never drops below 92% though!
iconic
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>>571812402
its always wrong to use it to heal/top off
its always correct to use it to top off AND fend off an extreme ambush/boss encounter

JUST using it to heal is a waste of so much healing overhead, its like fuckers who use stim injectors to top off
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>>571812402
I get your argument in principle, but based on my experience what actually happens is:
>people hurting on the way to finale
>use medikit
>they go down anyway
>they use a medicae charge to clear their corruption the moment we reach the finale
>now at finale with several used medicae charges AND no medikit
Saving the medikit is simply the better option when you take shitters being shitters into account.
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>>571812587
>its always correct to use it to top off AND fend off an extreme ambush/boss encounter
Thats what was happening
>its like fuckers who use stim injectors to top off
it depends. I can read the room and make a decision that maybe it would be better to heal now instead of gambling to go down and throw the run. Sometimes pre-stimming is the right call and its actually saved me in the past.
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Will Darktide be discounted in the summer sale?
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>>571812732
right well my point is
>show some fucking game sense
not
>people need health, me drop because me pick it up
>me drop in retarded place
the most iconic
>lets NOT put it up against the crates on rolling steel, so 90% of failures happen because someone gets yeeted off the train car because of fucktarded placement
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What blessings on the phosphor?
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>>571813154
im never magdumping with that thing so i like the salvo one
you need to shoot with like a .3 sec delay for it even to count as a new delay anyways so its basically 20% more strength on every shot
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>>571809620
I thought you were delulu when you posted this theother day, then when I made my skit character I immediately went to roll my starter weaps, wasted 220K, and the lowest of ANY stat I got was 64%. Fucking Swedes
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>>571813154
hand cannon and infernus
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>>571812794
Nah
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what exactly counts as a stun anyways?
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>>571813614
Unable to act
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>>571813654
So a mutant grab? a net?
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>>571813758
try to use a vet powersword for any length of time
>power up
>get smacked
>stop what youre doing and eat shit
>get battered by a rager and die unless you block
thats a stun
zealot is clutch since they just power trhough getting hit and keep attacking and can clutch
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>>571811213
511 players, 923 24-hour peak, sure they might have console players, butthose are some EoS numbers
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>>571813758
It's any hit that interrupts your current action. Stun immunity stops you getting knocked out of terminal minigames, for example.
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>>571813510
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>>571814261
Man, I love how every fat retard in bodycam videos says this at some point or another while clearly wailing their fucking lungs out and talking trash
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>>571813154
Man-stopper and surgical or crucian roulette
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one more month until slopdivers is saved
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>>571814398
Any examples?
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>>571814513
https://youtu.be/-tRs4IPS8Ao?t=1453
its just a common tactic to attempt to get the cops to cut you some slack

no it doesnt fucking work
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Can you believe it's been four years and weapon stats are still capped at 80%?
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are the uninterruptible ever nodes worth taking if you spam heavy attacks?
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>>571814912
only on ogryn
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>>571814815
red weapons tomorrow
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>>571814962
why
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Kinda nice I get to play other classes and be the only one playing it in my squad :)
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will classes ever get new cosmetics (dlc classes) or weapons? i feel like if fatshark wasnt retarded they could make a gorillion dollars off of skitari cosmetics (and then id pray theyd make me some pity scum cosmetics)
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We need cooler helmets for skittles
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The new Plasma Gun mk is kinda shit?
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Mech power sword is actually ok, would be nice to have slightly fatter hitboxes on pokes
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>>571815452
i imagine theres a magical number they have where theyre like "okay do enough people own this DLC that we can push new cosmetics" or some shit
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desu I don't like any of the helmets so far but the default one is the least bad
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I like the Sulphurhounds helmet
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>>571815392
I thought so too
Went with scum I haven't fully leveled yeserday
Zero robo boys in party(but there was another scum)
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>>571815529
my biggest issue is
>zero mobility when priming a heavy attack
which for a weapon of its type, is why it kinda sucks compared to
>duelling sword
>knife
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>>571814912
Boss killer stealth Zealot has a good reason to use them since your window of opportunity is so limited. Otherwise, I don't usually take them. That said, Skittles has both its stun immunity and uninterruptible tied in with other benefits, both of which I do want, so I actually run them on Skitari.
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>mech power sword
>if you weave heavy/light/block chains you can achieve nearly as much cleave as a dueling sword
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>>571809734
Of course.
Arrowhead is one of the few companies that still use the Stringray engine.
Obviously they'd want the guy who has worked with it for over a decade.
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>just saw someone named girlcog enthusiast
how is 99% of shit even mildly edgy/sexual censored but that isnt
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>>571816039
Because its trans affirming
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>>571815452
Nobody knows for certain so it's all speculation. Fatshark hasn't said much if anything at all. Aside from basic recolors and maybe the older mini if it's legally distinct enough from the Judge outfit in Judge Dredd are about all I can think of for them. Scum could be incredible even if they just have necromunda stuff, there's just so much wild stuff to pull from. Skitarii already have the pieces for the dog-horse guys and the basic boys, Ruststalkers and infiltrators should probably be allowed since we have their weapons and then I think we're out of ad mech boys that aren't servitors, the fly boys, and HH only. I want the hopilite weapons in both 40k and this so badly I don't even play ad mech
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>>571815109
Because you only do heavy attacks on ogryn.
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Just saw someone try to revive with medicae servitor but the purgator came out instead and the guy died
the guy that died was me
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>>571815452
>will classes ever get new cosmetics (dlc classes) or weapons?
Arbites class released officially 1 year ago.
They have gotten zero (0) cosmetics and only 2 weapon variants, boltgun and bolt pistol.

So no. Skitarii won't get shit, no cosmetics no weapons. At best any weapons that get added will be shitty variants of pre-existing guns.
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skit cosmetics kind of suck
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>>571816683
Yeah they don't really look cool at all unfortunately
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>>571816683
the holy trinity
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>>571816683
no u suk bich
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>>571816845
>t. jealous because he has none of them
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>>571816559
yah, it your aim isn't quite right or hold your grenade button for too long, it uses the flamer instead I think. Both share the same grenade pool too so if you blow them all on flamers you can't rez anyways.
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>>571816683
>black stygies robes and red eyes
ow the edge
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>>571816873
I wish the eyes could be saved differently for different presets (same goes for tattoos and hair, really) because I was going for an Inquisitorial Tech-Paladin for the other preset. Still a work in progress of course.
>>571816845
>>571817114
That preset is a Heretek
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does rending matter on the inferno staff?
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>>571817139
I'll believe you for now but you better watch out PAL, you're on thin ice BUSTER
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>>571817242
yes in that uncanny strike on your melee can let you kill crushers
any other form of rending doesn't matter
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>>571816845
trvke
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>>571817242
well I assume you mean brittleness because the inferno has no rending in which case yeah it's useful to spread it around hordes and help your team
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>>571817338
>he doesn't know
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>>571816845
I use the pre-order frame because you cant get it anymore.
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>play tactical/tech in siege
>have the time of my life and great opportunities to deal damage aswell as survivability
>play assault
>becomes complete misery at around wave 15 against chaos
>engaging means you get 10 enraged rubrics and 5 terminators that try to blast you the moment youre in the open with a single salvo able to take you down immediately
>permanent rain of rockets saturating everything
>best you can hope for is waiting for the enemy to fan out and to engage the ones who seperate from the rape pile
Never again, i used to enjoy playing melee classes in siege but if youre facing chaos it has become unbearable.
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>>571817242
Rending matters yes. The rending talent is almost universally good on psyker.
If you're asking about the brittleness blessing, crit + strength blessings are more powerful. You can theoretically achieve a lot of armor DPS with rending, but you shouldn't need to, and if you desperately want rending in your havocs, bring someone else to apply it. You're the main DPS, you don't support. Bubblecucks are washed up, smoke vets are superior.
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>>571817880
It's wild how much TS have sucked since day1
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no one is picking up mats
i'm so fucking broke
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It's been a while since I played (two years?). Is it just me, or are the movesets on the arc maul and mechanicus power sword a bit autistic?
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>>571818114
just do some havoc 40s
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are the noos skull and claw supposed to feel this strong
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>>571818165
arc maul no, it's literally the simplest move set in the game

mechanicus power sword yes nobody knows what they were smoking
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>>571818434
I fucking hate that I have to take the claw since the other options are worthless
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>>571817880
>do progressively less damage
>have less viable mechanics
>annoying and tedious "boons" and maluses to work around
>more enemies enrage so even less staggerables
honestly i dont think they play their own game
its just not fun, and it doesnt try to be fun
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I hate how they clearly know the actually enjoyable alternating combo on crusher, and gave it to arbites maul, and then explicitly did not do that for skittles maul
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>>571818479
>it's literally the simplest move set in the game
Wrong
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man this chordclaw spam build i made is so fucking fun in damnation
hate the fact that it's gonna probably feel like shit in havoc 40 since there's no way this is 1shotting crushers there
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>>571818659
voltaic with the arc maul has been keeping me at top damage scored in all of my games tho
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It would be cool if fatshark gave a new insignia or frame for getting havoc 40 every reset. It doesn't even have to be fancy just something that shows you have been playing it for a while. I guess a new frame every 6 months is too much work.
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>>571818165
I thought that was eldar killing humans, like aedari used to
Turns out it's daemon
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>>571818479
>it's literally the simplest move set in the game
>>571818756
dont be retarded
nobody plays H40 to have fun
by virtue of the fact that
>muh look at all the nonviable shit
is the main discussion just see why space marine 2 is a fucking shitshow
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>>571818786
and you think that means something?
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>>571818691
Unfortunately the arc maul starts with 2 heavies before you can chain heavy and light overheads. At least it has the same light attack moveset as the mk 3 bully club
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>>571818434
the trouble with noospheric skull is you spend 25% capacitance to kill one gunner, and get at most 9% capacitance back from the kill
the more the enemy density goes up, the more shit of a trade that is going to become

>>571818841
yeah, that eventually you're going to need to grow out of chordclaw
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>>571818914
I use it with my laspistol as a monster killer when i don't have the claw, and if go down or get disabled then i can still kill everything around me
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>>571818731
>>571818839
you can literally spam lights, you kill pretty much everything as long as its charged up
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>>571819089
Sure it's simple if you use it wrong
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>>571819089
so youre saying because FS accidentally made bully club MKII its the simplest on technicality
completely ignoring its bizarre moveset
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>>571817465
the talent
>>571818039
Is it not better to rapid fire the secondary and do quick charged bursts or am I playing the staff wrong?
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>>571819180
pretty much, electroshock therapy basically carries the weapon into being the best thing you can do
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Skitarii is great and all but can we get some new maps or something. Expedition was a flop, its not fun. Mortis trials are meh. They keep missing the mark on these additional game modes.
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>>571819373
ive been wondering why they havent made another mission in the icy inactive forge zone, i dont give a shit about story reasons, that area just looks gorgeous
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>>571819373
>Expedition was a flop, its not fun
just because you dont want to do it doesnt make it fun, i think its fine
>Mortis trials are meh
what dont you like about it
>They keep missing the mark on these additional game modes
tell me you enjoy most of the new/DLC maps on VT2 and ill call you a liar
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>>571819373
my theory is they're trying to find a new roguelike mode that pops off so that they can spend minimal time and effort into maintaining the game for maximal retention
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Loreanons, if I want to larp as a Heretek, what should I do and wear? Any prominent ones I can name myself after? Also, are there any good stories or stuff I can read about them? They feel like a faction that should probably get more limelight
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>>571819471
>just because you dont want to do it
When enough people don't want to do it then it's a flop, and it 100% is a massive flop
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>>571819578
i mean on one hand yeah
on the other hand
>these same people would rather be elitists in havoc
i dont really care what they think, community is by and large dogshit and unwilling to leave their comfort zone
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>>571819685
Irrelevant opinion. It's a shitty and boring mode and it makes perfect sense that no one plays it
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>>571819883
a dumb fucking mode that brings out the worst in people and actively removes viable options from the game (instead of encouraging new ones) is hardly a shining example of a better alternative
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>>571819980
Havoc? I never brought up havoc, you fucking retard
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>>571819564
Stygies VIII. They're basically all Hereteks and the only reason that haven't all been shot already is because they hide the Heresy in a shed out back.
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>still leveling my skittle
>3 turbotard teammates
>entrenched in a deep horde, back to the wall, with no space making ability or blitz
>a fucking burster is coming close
>watch my 3 retards cluelessly look at it, panic, and dodge spam while pulling out their ranged weapons
>not a single one of them is going to push it
>it's close enough to almost explode on me, they still haven't pushed it
>decide to shoot it to avoid wiping because with how they've been playing, if I go down = game over
>kaboom
>they all take a fuckload of damage
>but I'm fine
>we win because of it
It feels so fucking bad having to do this but these retards genuinely never learn to push bursters, huh
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>>571819471
Nobody plays expeditions because it is boring dogshit with 0 incentives to give a fuck about it or to even play it.
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>>571820129
>i bring up the modes people play and dont play
>you dismiss the ones people dont play, leaving only the ones people do play
well i bought it up, if you cant follow a conversation but are perfectly willing to keep bitching at FS to add game modes people clearly arent going to play, dont be surprised if i think youre a fucking dipshit
dipshit
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>>571819564
the dark mechanicus exists but is the most ignored-by-writers faction in the setting and only makes appearances to explain how chaos space marines get their toys
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>>571820295
>with 0 incentives to give a fuck about it or to even play it.
this is the real issue, regardless of gameplay
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What the fuck are these penances, I did all of these and they're not tracking, huh?
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>>571820314
Kill yourself, mongoloid. We are talking about a video game and you still somehow manage to make every response retarded and irrelevant to that which you are replying. I can't imagine how retarded you must sound when you try to discuss topics that are actually complicated
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>>571819464
and perfectly different while being completely believable that some part of a hive would be abandoned because something like climate control went wacky and turned it a frozen industrial hellscape.
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>>571820314
>keep bitching at FS to add game modes people clearly arent going to play
Nobody is asking for shitty game modes, retard. We want good game modes like chaos wastes.
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>>571819564
There really isn't a lot of lore and virtually no stories starring them. You could go with the named guy from mechanicus 1's side campaign or guy from HH. But that's most of it aside from they exist and do really fucked up stuff.
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>>571820553
>muh irrelevant this muh irrelevant that
>muh everything isnt fun
okay if you dont want to talk about fun and what is or isnt irrelevant then dont bring it up?
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Is it just me or does the mechanics psword FUCKING SUCK MAJOR FUCKING DICK
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>>571820835
Yeah its probably the biggest brick of their arsenal.
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>>571820812
Didn't i tell you to kill yourself? Get to it, bitch
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>>571820835
it has the worst move set in the entire game
what were they thinking?
I'd say we need a new mark but actually, just remake the one they gave us. It's ass
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>>571820504
works on my machine
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>>571820504
You need to be in the mission from the start, if you're quickplaying in past a certain point, it doesn't count.
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>>571820504
I just knocked those out tonight. The wording isn't great. It's complete 3 missions with a specific keystone and each of the f abilities. So 3 sub objectives of Keystone A + ability A, A, + ability B, and A + ability C.
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>>571820942
the only thing i see is a bunch of disjointed complaints that dont really amount to anything but you being a miserable fuck
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>>571821027
>disjointed
Because you are too retarded to keep up
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the anon who said something about key jangling when I told him diagonals, uppercuts, and mixed movesets were garbage that ruined a weapon has probably killed himself after spending all day trying to figure out how to make the mechanic power sword work and failing because it's fucking ruined
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>>571820835
I don't get the complaints about the psword and the transblades. They both feel great with all the melee steroids. Are your guy's masterys not maxed or something?
Falchion still sucks dick though
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Havoc is least effort random modifier bullshit mode. It's good because it's hard but that alone doesn't really make it inherently fun. Most people that play them just play the least amout of Snorevocs it takes to maintain their rank.
Mortis is fun because you get to do silly shit. Clearing the screen with infinite ammo autoaim fanning revolver was how I got a couple last levels for my Shitarii.
The issue is the talking takes way too fucking long, the maps are boring and repetetive and honestly I would just have Mortis Trials but on normal maps. They already spawn shit on them for events, spawn a shrine that gives you buffs in the same places, but I guess that's too similar to Chaos Wastes and Fatshark has an allergy to that.
Expeditions are genuine unadulterated dogshit however. They're unsalvageable yet Fatshark tries.
Truth is Havoc, Mortis and Expeditions should have been a single mode. Take randomly generated maps (though I'd appreciate if they weren't all orange dirt, half of my hatred for Expeditions is because of that), add roguelike elements from Mortis that you buy in the safehouses and start throwing in Havoc modifiers at players the longer they go on - maybe one Havoc level for every safehouse, and since it'd be stupid to do all 40 safehouses in a row you can start from highest level you reached.
I just invented Chaos Wastes 2, didn't I?
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>>571821014
Is quickplay just broken?
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>>571821134
The mech power sword is a blatant head clicker, it sucks dick if you can't figure out combos which most players never do. It's like a 99th percentile of the 99th percentile skill to have.
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>>571821253
No, it's working as intended, but certain penances that require mission completion have never tracked if you join partway through, that goes for failure states on penances that require streaks too.
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>>571821275
>b-bro the combos
no one cares
you will never outscore someone using the most braindead shit in the game using your 5 step combo
the shivs hive scum spamming m1 does infinitely more damage than you and has no idea what a combo is, cope
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Do the regular, non-powered attacks on the arc maul electrocute enemies or do you need to take electrocute on crit with them?
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>>571821134
I agree that Transphobic blades are great, you get to have like 70% crit chance up at all times thanks to Skitarii steroids and Shred+Riposte.
The sword is mid at best though. The moveset sucks ass.
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Why does Psyker attract turbo shitters?
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>havocsissies still screeching into the void
it's fine bros, we know you got time shitposting while waiting for your group to fill while real chads already played mutliple missions with comfy quickplay
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Some talents are stronger than expected:
>Assassination Protocols applies its damage buff twice against Pack Masters because they are both Ogryns and Monstrosities
>Electro-Strike Conduit is able to electrocute Bulwarks and Vanguards through their shields
>Protectorate Protocol's DR while incapacitated actually applies to everyone in coherency
>The Artificer Servo-Skull, in addition to it's more obvious effects, applies a +15% damage taken debuff to targets it shoots
>Noospheric Command refunds part of its capacitance cost if your re-cast it, preventing you from wasting capacitance from pinging the wrong target or double pinging the same target.

Some talents are weaker than expected:
>Data Sensor Protocol's CDs are shared among all players. Which is drastically less effective than each player having their own CDs.
>Omnissian Recharge Litany has an internal CD of 0.25s for some reason
>The Artificer Servo-Skull does not benefit from any of your +damage/+power buffs. (It does benefit from your Rending.)
>All of the On-Electrocute or Against-Electrocuted talents don't work with electrocute applied by the Shock Mauls
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are mods fixed yet or do i gotta wait more
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>>571821660
>don't work with electrocute applied by the Shock Mauls
Because Shock Mauls shock, electrocute is a separate dot from shock, you can have both on one guy. Does it make sense? Idunnoidontworkthere.
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>>571820182
Everyone knows Stygies are Hereteks though. They’re on record doing shit like looting Tau tech in front of the Imperial Guard. There’s just nothing they can do because their industrial output is so important.
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The new power sword is one of the worst melee weapons in the game
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>>571822080
>Everyone knows Stygies are Hereteks though
Speculated, rest of admech just can't prove it. :^)
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>>571822205
So that's how they made the 7 power sword different. They made it suck ass.
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>>571822329
So does the falchion
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>blaze away buff
>PBB buff
bros im having a blast
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>>571822238
Deathwatch has already been on Stygies to take away their most dangerous Xenotech. The Inquisition knows, the Mechanicus probably know too.
It just really isn't worth the effort, they still make decent shit, but their hubris will absolutely destroy them one day because they will accidentally eat their own sun with a Xeno gun or something.
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Anyone try any of the autoguns for the skitarii shooting ability? Seems like a fun combo
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so what's the best personality for skitarii
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what is skitarii's class identity
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I'm still leveling skittles and am trying to wrap my head around the stupid power sword. I can sort of get into a cleaving combo that's reminiscent of bret longsword. Bret LS was a more kino weapon though.
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>want to play as scum with shivs
>it's his worst weapon against hordes
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>>571822659
Jack of all trades
>But that's vet-
We know
Skit is actually a good frontliner unlike Vet
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>>571822674
horde clear is push attack, light
then light, heavy repeating
single target is heavy light light heavy but you're just gonna end up spam clicking when shit hits the fan anyway, nice thing is that it does very well with crit on weakpoint kill + cleave on crit blessings
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>>571822561
You still get fucked by the ammo economy and don't really have enough access to rending to make it stick in higher difficulties.
Infantry Autoguns seemed the least shit.
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>>571822958
I miss bret longswords blocking heavy attack. I enjoyed that attack so damn much when fighting monster and using the parry talent.
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Idk if this is a dumb question or what, bud what's your opinion on the Punishment talent vs Scourge on zel? I run relic sword so I do a lot of horse clear so idk if the impact on punishment is better than the bleed on scourge. I don't run binded by blood to ramp off of the bleed, if that helps.
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I feel like I do nothing but get my ass beat and chug medicae leveling as melee cog, does it get better or should I just swap to focusing on range?
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>>571821815
They work for me. Did you update the framework and mod loader?
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is it a waste to use the voltaic talents without using the arc maul? because the power falchion and tranny blades have felt comfy for me + voltaic discharge
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Redline protocols with the +1 ability charge node combined with horizontal chudclaw and 25% capacitance on kill gives you 5 stacks of basically infinite chudclaw. Pretty fucking rad to be honest. Shame redline protocols kinda suck overall.
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>>571823092
if you aren't running charge and/or piety you're going to be critting VERY rarely on relic blade and will almost never get value on scourge
even with piety scourge can underperform pretty heavily since you get nothing unless you crit, and then the enemy has to survive another hit after that before you can start ramping up your crit and the buff time is pathetically short.
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>>571823092
I'm drunk and did a lot of typos. Just like pretend I didn't do those.
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>>571823125
>>571823186
Just do this and don't use power sword if you're using it. Swap to anything else.
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>>571823226
Ok cool. I am running piety, but it looks like I'll do the other one. Thanks anon I really appreciate it
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THEY FIXED EVERYTHING
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>>571823490
does creamapi work on the DLC for this?
I will never play this unless I get it on sale and the DLC for free
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>>571823490
No, they haven't yet. Tunnels are still in the game. No, I don't care that they made them completely irrelevant, they're still in the game.
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>>571823092
Nyeheheheheee tehee
Horse clear
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>>571823490
Did they though?
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>come back to game after a LONG hiatus for admech
>Leveling skittle.
>just unlocked difficulty 2
>go into a quickplay match for the first time with mech power sword and expect to drop my spaghetti
>it's that carnival map that ends in the coliseum
>teammates are a level 3 psyker and a level 23 and 24 vet.
>they all eat shit in the first event where you drop down and have to "steal today's cyphers"
>The only teammate who doesn't outright die during the event is the level 3 psyker.
I find it hilarious that this room still gives people so much trouble. Just don't stand in the open or where poxwalkers rain onto your head.
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>>571823589
Hey you're gonna thank me for getting rid of all those fucking horses
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>>571823775
>level 23 and 24
>on diff 2
>in a normal mode and not snoretis or expeditions
yup shitters
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>>571823857
>level 3 psyker
>on malice
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>>571823857
Loading in I figured that it was going to be a cakewalk. I assumed that maybe the vets were in a premade with the psyker and that they were just playing the low difficulty to play with their newbie friend.

I guess it was still a cakewalk. Difficulty fucking 2 afterall. But it was funny watching them die so much. I haven't unlocked the medical skull yet, so I wasn't able to res them from some of the pits of stupid that they jumped into.
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>>571816873
based marshal
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>>571818668
>do progressively less damage
Wait so im not crazy and i actually hit like a wet noodle despite the white scar chainsword and the 150% melee buffboon?
Why the fuck would they do that what is the point?
Do you also have less health or do enemies do more damage?
Because after wave 15 its just a monsoon of rockets with the first hit basically downing you.
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>>571823125
Claw is the answer.
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I just realized, the devs nerfed all of the rending blessings on the the base classes because all of the skittle blessigns suck ass.
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>skitarii does nothing
>still no new staff
why come back?
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I'm curious to know the answer, has anyone else played this?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3140620/CAST_CHERNOZEM_ANOMALY_STRIKE_TEAM/
I played it for a good amount of hours back when it was around ver0.6 in early access
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>>571823775
>>571824014
you running who are you? the little platform indicator you can have is very handy for spotting teammates who are going to be useless the entire match, if you see a playstation icon give up all hope.
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>>571819089
that's irrelevant because the power comes from the arc. The moveset is still retarded.
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man i wish there was a cursor hud option native in the game
the default ui is so dogshit
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The Sequenced Charge says
"Gain 12.5% strength on gaining a charge. Lasts 10 seconds."

Does this stack with itself? Like if I manage to gain another charge in that 10 second time frame do I now 25% Strength? I ask since Kuli's guide doesn't say.
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>>571824305
There really isn't a reason to if you're not interested in the new class. Total content drought right now and skibidy is not the answer
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>>571824321
never heard of it
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>>571824403
buff bar management too
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honestly I only like the initial missions darktide launched with
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>>571824453
No
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hi :)
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How likely is it that Tau Ethereals are a scheme of the Slaught and for the Tau in general to be a Slaught asset?
The Rangda were enslaved by the Slaught , so having a big slave race while they run the show from the shadows is kind of their thing.
Ethereals showed up out of nowhere, have a longer lifespan than any other Tau and are basically able to mindcontrol the other Tau.
The Slaught dont use the Warp either which would explain why they would see the Tau as a suitable species since they have next to no Warp presence, that ensures chaos is very unlikely to interfere.
The Tau aren't really a threat to the Imperium but they could grow out of control if left unchecked for long enough which makes sense since the Slaught prefer to play the long game.
I find it interesting how well these things align with one another.
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>accidentally pick campaign mode when I start leveling my Skitty
>mfw I can't just QP

Is there a way to change this decision? I'm missing out on 10% XP per mission because I can't QP and it's fucking cringe
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>been really lucky with brunt while leveling skitarii
>for almost every weapon I've just found a nice version with the perfect 60% dump stat or a 76% across the board statline
>wake up
>think "it'd be nice if I could get one for falchion too, it could be nice for some builds"
>open brunt's shop
>instant 60 mobility falchion
Lucky
My biggest issue is that I have a bunch of weapons and now I need the ordo dockets to fully upgrade all of them
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I die in the most loony tunes ass way in damnation and then get to watch actual damnation players play like they have not hands and their monitor turned off
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>>571825098
just remake your character duh
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>>571825098
That ought to give you a little more time to enjoy the leveling experience
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>>571825098
Pay 50k to personality scourge
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>>571825203
The hardest part about playing the skitarii is its inability to soak up the damage from the poxbursters that my team throws at me
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whats the highest level for curious I can get from missions?



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