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Two-Piece Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>571707982
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>>571830642
Sticking my face in and slobbering all over her armpit
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you can delete this OP janny
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Patch doko?
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>>571830863
koko
*unzips*
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I like my pillow...
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I had a dream they added a new hero that was a morbidly obese fish man. He had a big sword and an ability where he attacked using his deadly braps. I'm posting this here in case it happens in real life.
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Damn, Silver feels so bad right now. I struggle to do everything with her after the nerfs. It's difficult to get her ult, it pops at the wrong time and goes on a huge cooldown.

That said, I'm going to keep playing her to lower her winrate in the hopes she gets buffed.
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shartyfags get the rope
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>>571830642
imagine thinking she's this hairy with a body of a 12 yo girl
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>>571831480
she's sophomore
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>>571831480
12 year old girl expert here
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The only thing keeping me motivated to climb to e6 is Journey
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>>571832551
you get to play a ps3 game when you hit e6...?
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>>571832551
Like the band?
>>571831480
>”this hairy”
>a very modest amount of bush
Jews have literally brain washed you into thinking pubic hair is unnatural
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>>571832628
>>571832674
I'm talking about the 80s band. The PS3 has no games.
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so when and how are they going to rework doorman? 95% of people absolutely despise this piece of shit even when they're TEAMMATES

There's just no way they're keeping this guy after valve reworked techies they won't just let a universally hated character stay as is
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>>571832896
Rework him how? His whole kit and concept is meant to be annoying
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>>571832896
Honestly the doors are fine and allow for some interesting escapes but the range needs to be toned down to like 100m tops. It's just the whole "hehe I teleported you 230m away under my walker instantly where my entire team is waiting get raped retard". icefrog seems to forget that people were ok with stuff like ember spirit remnants and pitlord tp and nature's prophet tp. in a game where you as any individual hero can buy a tp scroll or boots of travel and pop onto someone, these things aren't op as shit. but here they are.
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>>571832896
>95% of people absolutely despise this piece of shit
no?
where are you pulling this number from, your ass?
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>>571833073
Because he's banned in almost every game when you get out of shitlow
>>571833063
They're not fine
>>571833029
>kit and concept is meant to be annoying
Kit is meant to be banned
>rework him how?
that was MY question
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>>571833252
>banned in almost every game when you get out of shitlow
now post his pickrate buddy
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>>571833252
I'm high eternus and I virtually never see him banned.
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Urn dunk was infinifely better.
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my schizo theory is that these aren't used for balancing but rather to test your competency to aid matchmaking. answer right and you're considered good enough to carry.
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>>571833434
1
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>>571833347
yeah I kinda agree at this stage. they just needed to put comeback urns in less shitty positions that weren't like walking into a valley of death.
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>shiv and paige are OP in street brawl
>they are instant loss useless dogshit in standard matches
how can we fix them
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>>571833347
>>571833532
nah it was stupid to have to be constantly on top of the map or let someone get 5-10k for their team cause you just didnt pay attention for 5 seconds and they ran faster than you to their cuck corner

if they return it to dunking i still needs a delay function so it's not just instant, actually retarded gameplay
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>>571833434
4
>>571833315
>>571833323
not interested in your autism i wanted to talk about possible reworks stfu
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>EVERYONE BANS DOORMAN REWORK REWORK REWORK
>nobody bans him retard
>YOU'RE AUTISTIC STFU
mmm, schizo flavor
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>>571833434
5
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>>571833989
he's just retarded
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>>571831391
Thank you for your service king
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>>571834289
I went from having a high wr on this guy to being unable to win games and literally nothing was changed about him since it was after the nerfs.
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Looking good so far
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>brooltard
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>enemy team gets refresher victor and shiv so we just automatically lose the game on HP
nice fucking team composition matchmaking
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>Watch youtube shorts
Aparently in japan adult diapers sell more than baby diapers
I just wanted to let you know that deadlock general
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>>571833347
It kind of worked better for comeback but I still prefer the koth. I think they just have to put the cap in that tall building in the jungle near the walker, the one with the camp and scaffolding

Its wide open with chokepoint doors which is a lot closer to a koth map design

They also need a completely different mechanism for comebacks
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>>571835151
>he plays normal
ewwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>571834787
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>>571836549
keep up the good fight
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Silver is so fucking worthless this patch
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Silver is so fucking worthless
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Silver being bad is intentional. The devs want the silver mains to spiral into alcoholic depression to really connect with the character.
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why are carry niggers literally incapable of not feeding? I swear to fucking god every single game at e5 some dumb nigger carry with no awareness just wanders into death every 30s and the game is literally impossible to win just based on that. doesn't matter if you made 20 kills. you don't have a carry. gg. go next.
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>>571830642
UOOOOOH
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Silver is my wife and I'll always be there for her no matter how worthless she is
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>>571837545
players in e5 can't possibly be dumber than in oracle
and oracle players don't do that
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if i want to get into this game (solo), what vid should i watch to get the hang of things? i'm already familiar with league
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>>571837728
>i'm already familiar with league
this is Dota 2 in 3D, your league experience means jackshit
go watch Deathy on youtube
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>>571837708
yep unfortunately this bracket is the one that has account buyers. people spend 500 dollars to get eternus boosts and then they're impossibly fucking stupid. just had a drifter run it the fuck down solo in enemy jungle all game and then tell us all how we're fucking stupid for not realising 'he needs stacks'. MY CARRY IS 3-10 BUT AT LEAST HE HAS STACKS NOW BROS!!!
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>BAWWW WHY DOES CC ONLY AFFECT *MY* WAIFU
kys troons
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>>571837810
cool, who should i try first? i mained quinn and akali

(before you guys say that cliche line, i think all the characters look cool so i'm asking to narrow down my options)
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>Queue morning/noon
>Bunch of burnt out retards running it down for 20 minutes straight feeding their asses off forcing fights literally every minute
I'm at the point of suspicion. I think people are win trading at these hours and I think I'm going to just stop queueing early.
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>>571838003
uuugh, I'm not sure
there was this pretty old video that compared league abilities to deadlock heroes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcZfnAkvmLc
it's a bit outdated and doesn't cover 12 latest ones
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>>571838324
screw that, gonna play venator
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>>571838324
Bring back old Infernus portrait
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>>571838003
Calico
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>league players
>ooh that hero's ability is like this one and this one except
>dota players
>yeah, that's enigma's ult 1 to 1, icefraud
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>play resist geist
>still more damage than some other retards from team
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>>571833252
>Because he's banned in almost every game when you get out of shitlow
Asc and I rarely see this character banned.
are you some oracle tard larping?
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>>571839314
I'm mid-oracle and all bans are fucking random
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this guy is busted do NOT leak this info please
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>>571839438
We know, and also Seven is free win, they're just boring as fuck.
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>>571838003
>quinn and akali
calico
holliday too but she requires movement autism that you won't have as a newbie
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>>571838003
>who should I try first
Who YOU think is cool. Name 3 that stand out to you to narrow it done for US

You know should know that these games are about finding a hero that you like and first step for that is aesthetic appeal
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>>571839927
venator
graves
yamato
billy
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>>571839304
>resist Geist
How many times are you gonna talk about this? Buying berserker fleet foot and spirit resilience isnt a new thing on Geist
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>>571839438
A perfect square
Neat
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at what rank(or hour count) does technical skill begin to matter more than matchups?
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>ee+infuser beam kelvin wins 1v1 against every character for half a year already
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here's your braindead yamato at high eternus enjoy
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>>571840038
Billy. Melee characters are about as beginner friendly as it gets because fresh install rank won’t parry you
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>>571835107
I have no idea how people can play Silver
I tried her and she's miserably weak
Even against her she's rarely a direct problem
I don't even feel like I need to counterbuy anymore she just fucking dies
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>>571840602
infernus rapes that
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>>571841167
>fire beats ice
kino
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>>571841167
ice beam has triple the dps of afterburn
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>>571834787
people learn fast how to deal with him after getting 16x djinn's marked and instantly killed from 60% HP.
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>>571841068
okay, how do i play him?
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Valve should look at this game for how to make melee fun.
Also had fun movement.
Its closer to GunZ than Deadlock and thats a good thing.
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Do you agree that deadlock needs stricter chat moderation?
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>>571840408
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>>571842002
Never ever use melee because the enemy will parry you and you will die
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>>571842245
There should be zero chat moderation, there's a mute button.
The moderation for griefing and cheating needs to be a thousand times stricter.
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>our OP image of a girl in a normal bikini gets deleted
>meanwhile >>571366642

This has to be caused by our resident homosexuals who mass report any OP with a woman in it
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>>571842245
I don't mind people getting muted if they're regularly getting reported but auto-mute is gay as fuck.
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would it be viable to fill every slot with 6400 items?
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>>571843497
games last 30 minutes on average
do some basic math
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>>571843497
In a single game within a reasonable timeframe? No.
To fill your slots only with items they could eventually be upgraded to 6400 items? Sure.
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>>571843497
no because you're wasting souls for every minute you aren't spending them, and 2 tier 3s/4 tier 2s are stronger than a tier 4 early
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Imagine beating Rem with pillows full of glass and rocks
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Is mokrill the biggest rapecel character?
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It is so kino having an ivy that knows how to play on your team
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I've pushed from Ritualist to Phantom purely by just pushing side lanes as Graves/Mcginnis.
I never go to team fights. I never roam. I never deviate.

When does this stop working? My winrate doing this is like 80%
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>>571841381
read what infernus afterburn lvl 2 upgrade does
then read what the first passive of Silencer does
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What is the prevention method for a doorman phantom striking into ult on me over and over and over?
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>>571846232
Indomitable
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>>571845609
do I count? :3
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There is a dangerous Rem main posting in here, ruining (and winning) high rank lobbies. Watch out.
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anything below e6 is low rank
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>>571833347
My urn furnace idea would be the best of both worlds. Because both worlds are on the map at the same time.
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>extremely low cd nuke with overtuned damage that knocks you up
I WONDER WHERE WE LEARNED THIS LESSON BEFORE
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>>571846841
Below top 100 is low rank.
>>571847020
Don't forget they're both untouchable.
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>>571847131
erm chud they nerfed quantum cd by 1 second it's FINE now
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>>571847020
this one doesn't hit the whole lane so it's okay
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>>571848043
yeah we'll see about that tonight
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Just fucking make doorman carts not go through doors. I don't care if you make his bells do +500% more damage to compensate, just nuke this cringe fucking playstyle already
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>>571848182
>removing a spell synergy arbitrarily just because you don't like it
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>>571848232
It's a stupid synergy abused by fucking pedophiles. Horny ass doorman players just run at you and do their little combo all game. Delete it from the game or delete the character, I don't care which but I picked the more reasonable option of the two.
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>>571848232
What is "removing his ability to close doors" for 1000 Alex?
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>>571848182
your Counterspell?
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>maurice -> mo -> mole
>krill -> ??? -> monke
explain?
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>>571848182
just give them a slight windup
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>>571848421
I don't think you understand. I'm not negotiating or looking for advice. I want Doorman to stop being a lame fucking character for perverts. Full stop.
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barrels should be parryable
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>enemy team has the reju
>we have last walker
>my team leaves the walker area and dies

every fucking time, damned rusnigers
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>>571848346
>retard peelow player can't comprehend buying a counter item
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Had a dream I was playing Holiday and her ult was her 3 with a 6s cool down and to replace the ult she could throw 5 batrels at once
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>>571849178
It's okay, I know you're one of those doorman faggots that RPs as him in chat and buys cheat death every game trying to cart people under your walker. One day your retarded playstyle (if you can even call what you do playing the game) will be deleted and the game will finally be good.
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I can't wait to subscribe to lockplus so I can avoid the one trick in eternus that goes 0-15 every time they don't get their hero
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>>571849070
the more russians you have in the game the lower skill it is. doesn't matter the rank. they're just dog shit.
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>>571833063
I don't think anyone at all has ever been okay with Ember Spirit as a whole in Dota 2, he's always been an incredibly obnoxious and easy to play character with way too much power.
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>>571830642
>targeted by tranny janny again
epic
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>>571847020
no dude you don't get it, it's okay because Holliday is 'hard' to play because she has the overpowered movement that Celeste has
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>get to alchemist 1
>garunteed to lose game
>go back to seeker
>lose lose lose
>spend entire day getting back to alchemist 1
>repeat
I'm so fucking tired of this poo's ride
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>>571851808
A-AND ALSO IT TOOK SKILL KINDA TO USE QUANTUM EVERY 8S
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>attention whore strikes again
more news at 11
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wait until people realise how overpowered witchmail is on dynamo
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>>571848582
>le epstein
>le pdf
>le zion
>>>/r/eddit
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Is there a reason this seven didn't get unstoppable? He kind of threw the match not getting it.
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>played support religiously, struggled to hit anything approaching 50% win rate
>"fuck it, we m1gger now"
>12 out of 16 recent won and out of the Alch mines
Yeah I'm done. Supporting in pisslow is such a fucking gamble, genuinely not worth the frustration.
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>>571852956
>silver impact
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>>571852956
seems like he tried to crutch off indom which sometimes works in shitlow where you might fight a team with not much cc but will get you anvil'd higher up
still not a great idea in shitlow cause it takes one stray button to pop indom by chance and ur ults cancelled by something after
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>>571852956
At the top levels of deadlock, seven players don't build unstop because teams are normally too coordinated for it to do anything. Retard probably followed a L->R build. I'm a low oracle seven player and my own team gets mad at me when I build unstop instead of refresher, which is insane.
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>>571853386
>At the top levels of deadlock, seven players don't build unstop because teams are normally too coordinated for it to do anything
more like cause ult builds in general dont work up there, but the fact he has 4 limbs of exodia and neglects the part that makes the build work is confusing, whos dogshit l>r is that
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>>571853082
After their lane I had no faith in that match. It's a miracle we won.
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>>571852956
>>571853294
You can get away with no unstoppable until oracle IV. Also building indomitable before unstoppable is troll
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Well I did it lads
After a prolonged series of ups and mostly downs I got my all hero challenge done, three wins on every hero
I started calibrated at ritualist 1 and ate so much shit I'm down to alchemist 1

Notable heroes:
Lady Geist caused me way more problems than I expected
Paradox surprised me with how easy her gun was to use
Dynamo was not nearly as trivial as I had expected
Haze made me realize how fundamentally shit I was
Grey Talon was bafflingly easy and I am scared of his popularity after he gets a new model
Yamato was probably the most surprisingly fun, mainly due to her hookshot
Lash was incredibly hard to win with, even though he was also fun
Pocket was way easier than I expected him, I basically never died past lane
Holliday was the most initially confusing before I wrapped my head around how she was meant to play
Calico was unexpectedly fun regardless of my competence
Sinclair is the worst designed hero in the fucking game holy shit
Victor was somehow way harder than I expected him to be
Silver I expected to be hard, but still surprised me by how weak she actually was
Venator was my backup who ended up becoming my pseudo main
Apollo was the most dissonant where I felt like I was doing better than my stats reflected

I don't know what I'll do now, maybe buckle down and learn Haze now that I'm in a bracket low enough that fucking up won't be horribly critical and I can learn the fundamentals of tempo control and farming

Thanks for reading my blog
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>>571853626
Appears to be this, another victim of the "if the pros use it then it will work for me" mindset
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>>571852956
I thought these names were the corniest boomer jokes I've seen in a decade, so I checked what rank is dad mmr out of curiosity.
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>>571852041
>tranny colors
KYS
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>>571852956
>Silver with less damage than Rem
>not even gun/pillow Rem
Atta girl
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>>571853850
>Less than 2 denies per game
Brainlet-sama...I kneel.
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>>571853850
>Sinclair is the worst designed hero in the fucking game holy shit
It took me nearly 10 games to get my christmas ornament as sinclair.
Fuck sinclair
I got it with a melee build
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>>571853864
This build is fine the problem is he built indomitable because he was given the choice.
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>>571853386
>at the top levels of deadlock
>I'm a low oracle
stopped reading
you're pisslow until you're top 500. never embarrass yourself again trying to refer to yourself as top rank and using your personal anecdotes as evidence.
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>>571854018
Denying is for faggots and the entire game would be much better without last hitting.
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>>571853897
I'm dreadful at Yama but it's fun so I keep doing it. I miss Viscous
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>>571852979
there's enough account buyers in a small enough pool to make supporting eternus 5-6 lobbies miserable too. like it's clear as day. they're playing a carry. you ask if they want solo lane. they choose to force fights every 40 seconds and go 4-15 instead. this is who you will randomly be expected to support.
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>>571853850
>Victor was somehow way harder than I expected him to be
People unironically underestimate how difficult it is to get Victor going
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>>571852956
It's probably because he looked at the other team's CC and realized they only have a couple of things that can hit him in the air: Silver's bolas, Vyper's ult, and maybe Holliday's ult or Billy's ult if Holliday gets a bounce pad down. If this were a higher rank where you're doing 25-30 minute games and the other team doesn't have time to buy multiple knockdowns, that makes sense.
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>>571854230
That's why you climb to archon-oracle and sit there with the smurfs and don't dare go any higher. PA might be good too but I haven't played their lobbies.
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>>571854154
I'm glad they added it so I can build 1k soul gaps every lane off mental defectives like you
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>>571854018
After checking my recent games my denies are genuinely really fucking low and it's kind of surprising, I could have sworn they were higher but even on a good day I'm only getting like half a dozen
>>571854281
I think what fucked with me was how kind of fragile he felt
It took me a while to realize that you need to be really cautious about his aura and almost never fight without your ult
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initiate is the only real elo btw
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>>571854629
Nah, I am good at last hitting and denies, I think it's a terrible system to have in a game where everyone has wildly different bullet velocities. It just makes high velocity/opening rounds a must-buy on basically everyone at this point.

It also doesn't add much to the game.
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I dont deserve to be in shitlow
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>>571854937
You have a whole 80ms headstart on each secure, why on earth would you need bullet velocity?
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>>571855787
he's bad and a liar.
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>>571855787
You need bullet velocity because almost everyone in the entire game at this point buys opening rounds.

Many characters have atrocious bullet velocity like Warden, Dynamo, Viscous, Kelvin, etc, and if you don't buy opening rounds/velocity on them, you are going to have a miserable time laning against characters like Haze and Infernus.
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PATCH IS TODAY!!!!!!!!(dota)
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You can simply stand closer if you want lower ms when last hitting
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>>571856481
(dota) (hats)
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>>571856481
speaking of obsessive tea-leaf reading, is there a website that tracks updates to the experimental branch of Deadlock
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>>571856303
You could just...hear me out...shoot it slightly earlier?
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>>571856303
Nigga, you can put 3 velocity items on Kelvin and his gun is still absolute horrendous horse shit where the bullets visually lag behind your crosshair. They need to just call this shit off and replace half the character's guns with melee weapons.

The shooting in this game is just complete garbage for 90% of the cast because apparently slow-mo bullets and 18m fall off distances are a good idea
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>>571842002
always use melee since it gives you ammo
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I NEED graves.
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>>571857926
Yeah it doesn't help that most of the guns in the game feel very samey. You basically have 3 kinds:

>Dog shit gun with slow projectiles that barely do more damage than regular guns (Viscous, Kelvin, Paige, arguably Dynamo)
>Bullet hose peashooter (Ivy, Vyper)
>Overpowered gun that has everything good (Mina, Haze, Wraith)

The weapon variety just is awful and pretty much none of the guns feel good to shoot as a result.
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Still no updates we're like the most ignored Valve game ever.
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>"I promise I didn't feed the silver 14 times intentionally and fucked you all over"
>location: chinkhai
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>>571859524
>feed the silver 14 times intentionally
lmao who cares its silver
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>>571859238
>mina
>op gun
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>>571859925
>lmao who cares its silver
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>>571859238
I think the last batch of heroes had a loot of good gun variety
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>>571860076
Skill issue, if you lose against Silver it's 100% your fault. The hero is insanely bad.
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>>571854189
you suck at every hero apparently.
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what's the average rank of posters in this general? I keep seeing shitlow takes and everyone agreeing with them

t. oracle
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>>571859238
>Overpowered gun
>Mina
>The gun that has one of the lowest gun DPS and a mag size of 12 fucking bullets

>Not mentioning most of the cast because they don't fit into his narrative of every gun being the same
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>>571861136
im asc 2 and disagree with 9/10 things posted here
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>>571861136
Seeker 1 (I was seeker 4, 3 days ago)

initiate+seeker are harder than high elos and nobody can convince me otherwise because retards feeding and smurfs means the game is practically out of your control because its damn near impossible to kill an enemy with a 15k soul advantage because he got 7 kills in 10 minutes off some dipshit in your team and theres no way to comeback using Urn or other shit like that since every teamfight ends up essentially being a 5v6
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>spirit/bullet resistance +infuser mokrill every other game
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>>571861136
I'm Asc IV and all my takes are 100% correct
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>>571861136
rank means nothing, ive phantom 5 and have played with ascendent players who are worse than archons
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How do I carry as mirage?
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Think about this:

5 players can carry or ruin your game.
You alone can't win it, so your build doesn't matter.
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>>571859238
shotguns? slow weapons like mirage?
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>>571861539
insane levels of cope. you think you're only ever on the receiving end of shit teammates and smurfs? you are your rank.
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>>571861545
we have you now
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>>571860594
I've barely played any of the cast, you don't know that.
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>>571861545
I cantt believe it took this long for pro/high elo players to realize
>wait mokrill already has the highest base health in the game by a mile if I just build a ton of resistances on him he becomes unkillable
And for everyone else to copy them.
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>>571862181
you have a negative kdr, negative win rate, and you're most frequently ranked at the bottom of the match.
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>>571862945
yeah but i completed my christmas challenge :)
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>>571861136
Been stuck at Archon 6 for about a week. ~150 games on record
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>>571861545
6x siphon bullets meta incoming
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>>571861136
Oracle
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>join game
>side lane dies 7 times in three minutes
>leave game to go play overwatch
I am free.
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>>571853897
>44.35%
I don't feel as embarressed by my 51% wr anymore.
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Where is the geist rework?
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>Team refuses to solo farm
>Forces the support Rem to do lane janny duties
>Team keeps going for losing teamfights and chasing 1 or 2 enemies into jungle
>Team refuse to listen to me
>Lose the game predictably
>Team blames the Rem
Every last one of these niggers need to be shot in the street or in their homes.
>"Just play a carry lmao"
and what get a useless Gun/Melee Rem on my team that will do nothing but feed?
I'm so fucking tired of shitlow get me the fuck out of here I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it!!!
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>>571848564
>krill -> krillian -> korillian -> gorillian -> gorilla
denk mit
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>>571863861
yes?
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>>571864640
+10 Penis Points
YOU UH, YOU GOT SOMETHING ON YOU MATE
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>>571864482
a useless chudling is better than no carry
to get out of shitlow you have to don the big boy pants
of course every match will not be winnable, but youll more reliably win than if you depend on others down in that rank
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>>571865217
I'm at the point where Im just gonna play warden every game and if we lose then its my teamates holding me back
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>>571864482
I'm climbing ascendant with Rem. He's still kind of broken and I cum a little when I jump to someone who's about to die and they make a gay little noise and voice how surprised they are by the burst heal
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>>571865285
will def happen in some games, but please dont be that carry that refuses to show up to any fights until 30 and is suprised his team has no chance, the line between an effective carry and a useless perma farmer is thinner than youd expect
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Why play giest when bebop exists?
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>>571865721
they aren't even remotely the same role
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>>571852582
Uh oh the Doorman player's upset. Don't vortex web me and hump my leg like a little pomeranian!!!! No!!!!!
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sex with geist
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>>571845989
>team loses fight right outside of our base for no reason
>push hard
>they don't send one person to stall me
>take base towers
>instead of taking mine and shrines they all come back and kill me ultimately getting nothing
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>>571861969
"you are your rank"
always said by niggas that never got placed in low elo, every easy win you get from dunking on enemies feeding is undone by a smurfing haze farming kills off of clueless teammates the next game

Its pure luck
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>>571865987
*stomps on your balls*
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>tranny doorman is trying to put you in the hotel
>bebop is trying to hook you
>haze is trying to sleep you and soloult you

>indomitable


lol, lmao even, best item
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>>571865721
Bebop literally only has one button for damage in a regular fight, if you've missed or the enemy hit dispell you're fucked

Geist only makes damage, like a lot of damage. Geist is more like Pocket, but you actually need to know how to play Pocket, Geist is easier to play
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>>571866658
damn right my fellow m1gga
we out here holding m1 on these spiritrannies
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>>571866658
It's ass compared to unstop but goddamn do I make it a point to get it whenever there's a Doorman. I can only imagine the squealing when they get magdumped while stuck doing silly handwaves,
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>>571865721
who knows
nerf bebop
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>>571865987
>>571866280
https://files.catbox.moe/la1qjm.png
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>>571867131
Fleetfoot?
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>>571867184
honestly if the giest porn isn't femdom then it's just not for me man
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>>571867131
Y'know maybe Russians aren't such bad people after all...
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>>571867089
It works also against Ivy, he can't stomp you. Literally the best item, it's like having an autosave button, much better than Counterspell because sometimes you can see what's coming at you
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>>571867131
I keep forgetting that we have an army in Africa. Anyway, I'm glad that they at least bothered to make arms and legs in line with each other.
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Has anyone dipped their toe into modding? I want to fix a broken skin mod and I wanna know how hard it is and what I have to do.
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>>571867419
>cheating
Don't.
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>>571867419
>bro uses QoL
cringe
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>>571866247
I am new and barely play but I have a 70% winrate on my main and half of the losses are my fault.
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They should add Ogre Magi to Deadlock
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>>571867550
>>571867614
Okay fine, I'm talking about a Vindicta feet mod okay? If seeing her feet counts as cheating then I'm a cheater.
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>>571865610
and IMMEDIATELY in my first game as warden, theres a cheating haze with aimbot and auto parry.
Not even trying to hide it.
Enemy team is playing it off like she's just that good.
Yeah im sure its just a coincidence that she has a 90% headshot rate and has parried every single one of our billy's lights
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>>571867741
All mods are cheats.
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>no chess hero
>no vegetable hero
>no sun/moon hero
>no Ra hero
>no kraken hero
>no skeleton hero
>no politician hero
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Finally done with this game and uninstalled it, I'm not having fun at all. Every game is lose no matter how hard I try. And I wouldn't mind if they were fair matches but every single one is a full stomp.
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>>571866280
>>571867285
Which girl would Geist be?
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>>571868206
no one cares
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>>571868081
>>no skeleton hero
viscous bro
>>no kraken hero
also kind of viscous bro
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>no dota update
bros?
>no deadlock update
BROS????
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>>571868127
Take me with you.
all im doing is wasting time on this nigger game
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>>571868206
Ms. Domestic: Yamato
Ms. Pedo: Celeste
Ms. Attached: Mina
Ms Kind and Loving: McGinnis
Ms Keeper: Geist
Ms Normal: Wraith
Ms Objective: Vindicta
Ms Certain: Boho
Ms. Head: Geist again
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>deals 30% of your HP in one dash
>procs witchmail twice in 3 seconds
>deals another 30% of your HP with ram
problem?
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>>571866247
I've been speccing my friend who is in the 3rd rank from the bottom. Probably watched about a dozen games now. If I were playing instead of him, I think only 1 game would have been an absolute designated loss, vs the 6+ he did lose.

If you're significantly better than your opponents you can definitely carry even the biggest tards. If you're just a bit better getting straddled with morons is going to fucking blow.
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>>571868206
why is this image so hot? Is it over for me?
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>>571861669
Of the shotguns in the game, they all feel pretty samey.
>>571861208
>>571859995

Mina's gun is overpowered due to her passive, the gun itself makes landing the shots extremely easy.
>>571860109
I dunno if I agree with that. Apollo just has an arbitrary range cutoff, rather than the bullets tickling past a certain point.
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>>571866247
i got placed at seeker 1 and made it to emmisary 6 in 150 hours
kinda hardstuck here for the moment but i burnt out on deadlock and am taking a break to mod other games
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>>571867674
They already have, it's called the matchmaking system.
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>>571868569
woah massive fucking update incoming guys
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>>571868081
Sorry we have to release more tumblr-approved designs like Graves, Silver, and Celeste.
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>>571869259
Tumblr is based.
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>>571868206
Geist is obviously Ms Redacted. Her whole thing is about stealing youth
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>>571869243
Its the activation update, everything has been hashed and encrypted in the game files for months and this reveals it
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We need a Morphling style hero called Morpheus whose entire deal is his ult turns him into other heroes
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>>571868895
Celeste's 8 round bouncing baton gun and Graves' lich hand don't feel different enough for you?
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>>571868686
is he the only one with a % of max hp damage ability that ISN'T an ult?
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>>571869375
>>571869259
>Tumblr
That place is literally just a bizarro version of here since all the normalfags and leftists went to twitter, reddit, or bluesky.

Reminder that Tumblr was the only placed that mourned us during the hack. Tumblr is to twitter what 4chan is to reddit
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>>571869243
>all fall off ranges reduced from 20m to 12m
>Kelvin headshot bonus reduced to -120%, heals enemies when you headshot them
>Warden movespeed reduced to 5.4
>Point blank requires you to be within 5m of target
>Sharpshooter requires you to be at least 65m away
>Hollow Point now de-activates if you are below 95% HP
>Intensifying Magazine now takes 7 seconds to charge up, lowers projectile speed by 60%
>Burst Fire now has a 50% chance to not activate and go on cooldown
>Glass Cannon now cuts your HP in half
>Lucky Shot chance reduced to 2%
>Spirit Resilience now doubles your spirit
>HP per boon increased by 50%
>Spirit Burn can now only be removed via Remover
>Reverb now occurs two additional times
>-1 Viscous Gun damage
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Jesus fuck losing on mo and krill is so boring and un-interactive
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Jesus fuck [...]mo and krill is so boring and un-interactive
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>>571870117
I mean this is also true yeah
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>>571869813
tumblr is only used by mentally ill late millennials and early zoomers, so they highly understand internet culture zeitgeist
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>>571870310
hmmm that makes me think of another website
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>calico, billy, holliday, haze and seven have highest winrates despite also having the highest pickrates
can't wait for abrams, dynamo and celeste to rejoin them
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>>571869637
They're both auto-aim guns, so no, not really.
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>shiv is top 5 picked
lmfao
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>>571870669
Celeste's gun isn't really auto-aim it's like psi-blades
You can use it as a slow but wide projectile but the optimum way to use it is to target troopers that are in front of the enemy so you can clear wave and also harass
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>>571870046
>>571870117
I dread draft being added as a pisslow player.
>niggas going to beg for a Mo & Krill every match
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>>571870441
when 4chan went down i talk to a girl
it came up and i stopped texting her
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>getting 5 man dived into walker 6 minutes into a game
>no one reacts
>everyones just jungling and towers are completely untouched
the most blatant EOMM to have ever existed is in this game
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>>571872853
Aren't you engaged?
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>spirit resist
>you can ignore all spiritnukers
>bullet resist
>m1s don't even notice you bought it
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i am the only good silver player i can make this hero work
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>>571872853
I started having more fun with this game when I completely change my perspective.

This game is now a single player souls like, where you pretend your team doesn't exist and your only goal is to kill the walker. Sometimes spooky enemies invade your world and try to kill you, but you just go "oh shit" and do what you can. When Walker dies, change lanes and repeat. Sometimes you get to see phantoms of other players when you move around the map, which is cool because it makes you feel like you're not just in a single player world
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>>571872026
The thing that shits me is that a draft is bafflingly unnecessary

If you give people the ability to choose their lanes at the start of the game, then essentially your "balance" problem is to take 12 "random" heroes and sort them into two teams of 6 in a way that has the closest win probability to 50/50

That sounds difficult until you realize how mechanically braindead it is

First you collect moving averages of win rates for every hero both with and against every other hero
Sounds like a lot of data, but it's basically just a crude 3-dimensional array. Doing basic bitch math the total memory cost for such an array is less than 50kb in size for the current 38 heroes. If you had 100 heroes, the same array would be around 300kb. It's fucking nothing in terms of data.

Next, you consider: how many different ways of splitting the teams are there? That's easy: 12 choose 6 is 924. What does that mean?

Take a team configuration. Sum and average the win rates according to the team/enemy matchups. The closer the resulting winrate is to 50%, the more "balanced" the team comp is.

Do this for all 924 possible configurations, and then pick whichever one has a winrate closest to 50%. It sounds like a lot of number crunching, but considering the winrate lookups only have to be done once, the actual calculations could trivially fit in L1 cache, which means you could probably blast through every possible configuration in a tiny fraction of a second.

There, you now have numerically balanced teams from now until the end of time, and you never had to ask anyone how good of a frontliner Paige is.
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>>571868686
they need to change it to current hp like tankbuster. Makes no sense why he has an ability that is stronger than an item in game
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>mokrill
>mokrill
>mokrill
>mokrill
>mokrill
>mokrill
>mokrill
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So when are people gonna realize the shields are op again
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>>571874003
Mokrill BVLLS have already realized this.
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>>571873009
I'm engaged with the plot of blowing yoshi's head off
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well?
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>>571861136
E6 top 250 and this general has the worst takes i have ever seen for a video game i just assume everyone is trolling now
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>>571874354
>he doesn't build locket/nova/rescue beam for his greens on vyper
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>>571874003
People realised it when mid urn broool dropped though?
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>>571874493
the general rule is that 99.99% of people you see talking about anything are fucking retarded and confidently wrong. it's not just this game.
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>>571874915
It feels like i never see anyone buy them
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>>571875156
Most people are bad and can't build worth shit for 90% of the ranks.
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>mo, infernus, haze, ivy, drifter, and venator on enemy team
I'd ask for yoshi's address but i'm pretty sure the garbage mods on here would ban me
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>>571874493
There's "people" in here that unironically think Silver isn't the worst hero in the game
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>>571867741
you need to be killed
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>>571874928
this includes you
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>>571871995
Yes, it automatically aims your bullet. It's a training wheels gun for another overpowered and badly designed character.
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Just had a game where every other player on my team was female, and all but one of them was playing a male character: Apollo, Lash, Bebop, Seven, and then Ivy.
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>>571873646
No, drafting is necessary because this game's balance is in the fucking toilet and you have to be able to counterpick ultra cancer heroes like Celeste, Victor, Mina, etc. or else you just lose the moment the game starts due to bad team comps.
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>enemy parries
>parry animation ends
>melee them
>get parried anyway
Why the fuck haven't they fixed this shit yet
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>>571876772
Because melees need to be dogshit or else people might have fun with them.
Ignore the fact that every melee item has been nerfed repeatedly too.
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>>571876772
You can't fix things like this. Genuine limitation of physics. And I don't mean the game engine.
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>>571873646
>The thing that shits me is that a draft is bafflingly unnecessary
retarded blogpost from a retard, amazes me how some of you can keep breathing when you go to sleep at night.
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>>571876439
nigger you will be doing signifcantly less damage if you don't hit your shots. The real thing that makes it easy is the massive projectile size.
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>>571876592
>>571876932
>we need draft because the opinions of a bunch of redditors outperforms raw numeric analysis
You could take 12 random heroes and get the top 50 deadlock pros to formulate the absolute most balanced draft possible and every other asshole who saw it would say "It's unbalanced because Mo&Krill is on the HK side"
Balancing a match is trivially easy
Convincing players that match is balanced is next to impossible
Draft is only useful for 6v6 team matchups where a dedicated captain exists
I'm sorry fundamental mathematical purity doesn't agree with your fantasies about counterpicking
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>>571868127
It's crazy just how worse this game has become in the past 6 months.
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>>571877068
nta but i genuinely can't tell if this bait or not because i know there are at least some people here autistic enough to live by the numbers
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>>571877659
Were you not able to tell with the last 6 heroes released? All of them were broken as fuck in some way, except for Venator who had that bug with his ult getting too much damage. Arguably Rem is fine, but the other 4? Absolutely awful.
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>>571875490
>get handed 1 or 0 tanks
>enemy gets 2 tanks
>instantly lose every team fight through attrition because all the 'anti tank items' also double as tank items
what a fucking game
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>draft this draft that
i don't want draft because it already takes long enough to get into the damn game
also do you really want to deal with
>NNNNOOOOOOOOO WHY ARE YOU HOVERING [hero] YOU HAVE TO PLAY [hero arbitrarily decided to be S tier by streamers] OR I WILL AFK BBBBLLLLLYYYYYYAAAAAAAAATTTTTT
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>>571877973
What, exactly, is the counter-argument?
>yes, I know these hero pairings have these winrates, but I can quantify their relative power levels better than that because.. because I just can, okay?!
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>>571877068
I don't care about whatever you're trying to say here, since it's retarded. Drafting, or at the very least back and forth all pick, is the only way to make this game's awful balance somewhat tolerable.
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>>571878384
It's okay anon, not everyone has the mental capacity for high-school level statistics, don't trouble yourself
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>>571878384
NTA but I don't care as someone in gorilla retard elo. It's just going to make soloQ an even worse experience. Maybe it will actually bring people back to eternus and things will improve there pushing the boosted down but that is a net negative for most of the playerbase as well.
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>>571878354
They could simply just put in a casual and ranked mode. Ranked will have draft, and casual will not. The way this game is managed is slowly making me support the Rothschilds and their cronies trying to take down valve.
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>>571876429
yes, obviously? pretending you're an expert or even proficient in everything is moronic
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>venator that cant do a combo to save his life even though he's landed like 10 gutshots into walls
>mina calling everyone dogshit
>lowest damage on the team at the end
hellish game. you genuinely have to be a masochist to bother with this shit
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>>571878853
all roads lead to heroes of the storm
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>>571878676
I got to Phantom and it doesn't get any better there, trust me. The entire game's ranking system is just a fucking mess and you get boosted animals at every single rank.
>>571879096
Yeah last time I played, I got a Holliday as my lane partner who just... left the lane like 4 minutes in and I had to 1v2 against Yamato and Pocket as Venator. I died like 4 times before just abandoning the lane entirely for the rest of the game, while Holliday went around farming the jungle with barrels.
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>>571876429
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How often do you see slurs in chat?
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>>571878384
Can't wait to get shoehorned into a role I don't want to play for 45 minutes, all because we can't innovate worth fuck and are completely dedicated to making this another DOTA because of course the same guy made it so why should this be any different, right?

Creatively bankrupt
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Whos the best anti-tank hero to rape the endless stream of billy/warden/abrams with?
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>>571879230
Oh I know, everytime the lobby average is Oracle/Phantom instead of Archon the game is a total shitshow. I deranked from Oracle VI but the games are more competitive and there's better macro so I could care less.
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WHY THE FUCK CAN I NOT DO ANY FUCKING DAMAGE AS WARDEN!!!!
WHO THE FUCK RECOMMENDED THIS GARBAGE?!!!
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something i noticed is that in high elo matches shiv players tend to say nigger more
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>>571879448
Never. I censor bad words.
But black people, usually on drifter or seven, call me nigger quite often. Not always out of hatred but sometimes respect.
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is this the perfect graves build?
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>>571879650
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>>571879650
Mokrill
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>>571879650
Infernus max burn bleed build
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>>571879486
No anon you don't understand you'll definitely play better as the hero I want you to play because it fits my arbitrary mental construct of what constitutes a good draft
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>>571879747
>he doesn't know his gun has been nerfed so many times it now has the same dps as mo & krill's gun at 35 boons
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>60 minute slurper where each team gets 3 mid bosses and half hte lobby has 100k++ dmg



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