shiv x vindicta>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>571830642 (Cross-thread)
>>571936070update when
THEY'RE BUCKBROKEN
>>571936070shiv isnt gay
>>571936412lots of new stuff being pushed to the client, it might actually be soon
Sex with Venator
>>571939908>Valve Soon™September release confirmed.
>>571936070I have no friends. My only achievement in life is reaching Eternus 6 in Deadlock which i still feel like i don't deserve it a feeling that will probably never fade away. I am so alone and i will probably die alone. I don't know how to make friends every interaction i have with people feels like i am just annoying them. I've failed as a human being.
don't care didn't ask plus you're a frog-nigger
every single one my phantom/ascendant games has at least 3 smurf/alt accounts in the match. They always do the best
Phantom 3 down to Emissary 6 in the space of 2 weeks
>dota 2 finally gets there big update, they cant stop bitching>we get NOTHING AGAIN
>>571952531come on valve...give us a new york street nigger...im tired of people naming ixians and rem when i simply want a black male...
>>571952531I tried checking steam discussions to see what they are complaining about.Almost every post is in russian
How do you stop turret mcginnis
had to update this.
>>571953273Be early to Urn turn in. Her set up takes time to set up. You deny her set up she is much more manageable. After that, just run her down. Alternatively, run her down then kill turrets.
>>571953973>takes time to setupecho shard max wall build says hello
Flopping tranny deadcock.
If Graves is fun on Halloweens then who's fun to have sex with?
>>571956568Vyper
>>571955918You really like thinking about trannies flopping their cock around, dont you?
have paradox buffs gone too far?
>>571953950Why did they abandon their still unfinished game to put out an update for the one that's been publicly available for like 14 years now
I can only play Geist, recommend me a second character to play Don't say Graves because it sucked, how do I even built her?
>>571949771same here, but i spammed pre-buff support rem for a while so it's deserved>phantom 1 to archon 2getting a lot more fun VCs in my EU lobbies now for some reason
>>571958615just go random in street brawl until you find something fun
>still no major patchdead & abandoned
devs allowing turret mcginnis in its current form is a joke and reflects on how the devs dont know what the fuck they are doing
>>571957557Jewish money
>>571961356Turret ginnis has not been good for a long time now, are you playing fucking SB or something
bebop is the only character not allowed to have real scaling
>>571949771I'll never complain about dropping oracle VI to Archon VI again jesus fucking christ anon.
>>571958615Holiday
what does escalating exposure damage refer to? just how much it added from spirit amp?
Silver needs huge buffs
>>571953950do valve gamers really complain everytime another valve game gets a content update? Noticed this with deadlock too.
>>571968657yeah its bad. started out with losses that were out of my control completely, but last 5 days or so the tilt had got to me and im playing so badly in lobbies that i know im better than. gonna take a break.
>>571969963I mean you're prob boosted unless you had that rank from when we had ranked queue. Archon plays better than phantom for some reason and my friend from seeker got phantom only playing with me spamming migu and I deranked and he ranked up above me somehow because he gained more than he lost. Don't take it to seriously it makes no sense.
>new dota event is about hoodwink (and also legion commander)>occultist symbology similar to deadlock's used several times>traveling between universes and the confluence mentionedIt's all but confirmed by now, Hoodwink is coming to Deadlock.
>>571969540Yes also its a little less than that because its also counting the -resist from mystic vulnIts honestly unimpressive number wise but if it translates to more kills then its fine. Its backloaded at the end of the fights which is good for finishing
>>571970702there isnt a single tree on the map
>>571971321Bushwhack changed to only stun if comboed with acorn shot tree, otherwise it's just a shitty slow.
>>571970702please god no silver attracted enough retaraded furries adding an actual anthro to the game would be like pouring sugar on an ant hill.
>>571971321There's a few near Greenwich...
>>571971321theres a tree next to the denizen camp near archmother blue walker anon. I know this because I FUCKING GET CAUGHT ON IT LEAPING FROM BUFF BRIDGE
>>571971989Hoodwink will save this game.
Imagine Rem.... but with tits....
>>571973616That's already been imaginedNext imagine?
>>571973926Imagine Deadlock... but updated...
>>571974107I can't imagine that...
Something I had to drill into my head as a support was not helping every dickhead pushing up into suicidal situations. Even if it was a lost cause id go and try and heal or provide an escape.It just serves to feed the enemy team when we both inevitably die.
Why do zoomers call me a pedo just for beating them in lane
>>571974734On Viscous you can do this btw
>>571974734As a carry, I had to drill into my head that my soul count was more valuable than my entire team's lives.
>>571974935it's replaced faggot and nigger since most of them are pussies or play other over policed online games.
>block off ports to everything but the london server to avoid russians>the brits are just as badokay what's the aryan tech for avoiding subhumans
>>571975804Every region has its class of subhumans
>>571974935pedo has replaced faggot as a term of sexual shame and jew has replaced nigger as a term of racial shame basically.
baaased
>>571975623can't wait for these zoomies to try pursue a competitive career and find themselves being lynched by the jews running the tournaments. people in dota have unironically said nigger faggot retard etc and it just gets swept under the rug if they're good enough.
A thing I like about Deadlock is how the characters don't scream out a cringey one-liner like they do in other hero shooters like Rivals or Overwatch.
>>571976850The one liners in Deadlock are generally pretty good
IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD
>>571976167wicked
Were people really expecting valve to change the VA for Warden?
>>571974935jeffrey epstein bro this guy went to the island for sure xDDD
I COULD USE A NAPI LOVE MY PILLOW
>>571975804>london: the NA permayappers of EU. you might be able to tolerate their 'bants' every now and then, but if you're unlucky enough to get multiple london games in a row, you'll find yourself muting both teams at the start of each match from then onward>frankfurt: trannies and diaperfurs begging to swap for 'yuri lanes' and screeching like a banshee if you refuse (i'm not even exaggerating this has fucking happened)>helsinki: russians>madrid: russians (???)>vienna: same as frankfurt>warsaw: poles are same as russians but they like leaving/abandoning the match even more often for some reasonand of course it doesn't get any better with NA or asia
>>571974935pedo is what zoomers call people who are using dishonest tactics/characters
>>571977293I'm a zoomer and I just call people israeli.I suppose it is the same thing however.
>>571977390>babby's first edgy political hottake
I just realized my Deadlock anniversary was 2 days ago.I've been playing this game for 2 years now. Time flies but not fast enough for the next update.
>>571974107
>>571977293well, i was playing Mina
>teammate buys decayI go AFK.
A new map event idea would to have a critter of some sort spawn that runs around that map and catching it provides some sort of boost.
>>571977578My first political hottake is that all women should be forced to be naked.
>>571979557agreed.
>>571977279this might sound crazy but I think I'd unironically play with trannies and diaper furs over bongs
no one watches R1 huh?
>literally annoyed by something every single game
>>571979403>team mate RUSHES decayI EUTHANISE
>>571979557finally a candidate that addresses the real issues
the type of shit you see in asia lobbies
>>571980945>dishonest faggot nigger holliday>highest winrateshocker
there should be a button I can press on a 4 second cooldown that if timed right, stuns a m1gger for 3 seconds (cannot be reduced) and makes them take 30% extra damage from all sources
>>571982070We call that Stone Form (it used to be called True Form)
Reminder that skill rating is flawed because it doesnt take actual skill into account, only your luck in queuing with retarded nigger teamates
>>571982485ivy is a m1gger
playing with ping higher than 40 gives an extra 20% extra radius to all attacks made by the enemy
>>571982891
I hate playing against a lot of the characters idk why I still play this kusoge
Does spirit resilience even do anything? It feels like a completely cope item if you don't have a reason to buy it like Victor/Geist
>>571984082Resistance does nothing and should be buffed. Even with 60% or more you still melt because there's so much shred and EE.
Any other viscous players having issues with his punch? I put it on a wall and the sound plays but sometimes it just doesn't actually go. I have no clue what the cause is.
>>571982891yeah no. m1 builds are pure desperation. like "oh fuck my entire team is spirit characters". kinda like a holliday going gun. as a gun ivy you are basically weak until you have a 10k lead on someone.
>>571984082spirit res is the only one worth getting, it cucks spiritfags mid game when they're strongest and by the time they can buy items to get around it you or your mandatory m1gger should have outscaled them to hell and back
>>571984282and then seven gets comical levels of shred because of spirit rend + escalating exposure + this
>>571984497Playing m1 makes every single kill like pulling teeth, and every gun items needs you to perform a humiliation ritual to activate the stats you paid for. I have no idea who this is supposed to appeal to, but all the complaints of "OmG GuN MeTA" must have seriously buckbroken yoshi's brain
is it just me or is thursday a fucking horrible day to play on. idk what it is. but I've really noticed it because every wednesday I have a movie night with my friends and then the next day is cock and ball torture in deadlock. for weeks. it's even worse than the weekend.
>heroes I like playing are all dogshit atm>drop from asc 5 to phantom 1still not swapping I refuse to be a metaslave I'd rather play the heroes and builds I want and lose than do the same thing as everyone else this patch
Do you trust the new vegas tier list?
>>571984928My favorite character had every fun aspect nerfed and is now a cube/splatter slave.No more fall balls, no more fun punches, no more fun shotgun, you will cube, you will splatter, and you will moan like the sissy support goo yoshi wants you to be
>>571985131>rem and abrams in S+ despite needing buffs>infernus, warden, wraith, haze and seven not in S+disgusting. why do all 'pros' defend m1ggerslop?
>>571985131>36 years old
>>571985131I don't trust anything any adult who plays video games all day says
>>571985453whoops I got metro confused with vegaswho gives a shit. Fuck twitchnigger manchildren
>>571985131>no longer S+lver>but they still think she's SlverThese retards will never let her go, will they
Do you ever win a lane so hard you feel badLike silver I'm sorry you have to lane against me and this infernus and we killed you three times, please don't cry.
>>571970404not boosted, im solo queue sinclair/ivy/viscous. been playing on/off since the start of 2025.im not so mad about the rank, its just indicative of how many games ive been losing as opposed to winning lately, which is the frustrating part.
>>571984886Just had 3 horrible matches in a row and you just reminded me why, its the weekend.
>>571985131>Yamato downplayer
how'd appollo? haven't played him since they raped his parry
>>571986449>they raped his parrythey didn't, hes better than everpeople are doing meme gun builds with him where you permastun people and unload into them
>>571984497how come silver did the least damage I thought she was good in eternus?
>>571986556Gunshit really killed this game, huh.
>>571985131>silver>SHAHAHHAHAAHAThese people are genuinely retarded, why does yoshi listen to them for balance decisions?
>>571984082I think this downplay is too bold, no one is going to fall for it.
>>571985131>billyhow? explain this to me I don't see it. wouldn't say billy is bad at all but top tier s+? idk
>>571985131>not a single m1gger in S+>only m1gger in S is venator, the weakerst m1gger>heroes with the highest winrate are in A or lower because???Gee it's almost like the list is made by a m1gger downplaying his heroes and upplaying heroes that are strong against his heroes
>>571986963Rising ram does 10% max health damage at T3, he has a lot of health now, and his ult is teamfight defining. He does and tanks a million damage without needing many items.
>>571986963it's a list made by a m1gger 'pro'. that should explain everything
>>571985131>Silver not SSS+++++Garbage tier list, hard to take seriously
>>571987270Doesn't Vegas plays spirit heroes if anything?
>infernus>eternusI'm noticing something...
>>571986792people only don't realize how busted gun is because aimnigs don't play niche retarded moba heroshootersif deadlock ever goes open gun is gonna get nerfed into the ground quickly
>>571984863it's just pathetic how everyone has to have shit guns in lane except the guys with steroids (infernus mina wraith vindicta etc). feels like you mag dump people for 150.
>>571986963ugh if i press parry i cant deal damage and if i press parry and dont parry him i just take a million damage how is that fair melee is so op...
>>571986663I went hex disarm and spammed the fuck out of her
>>571987974>beg yoshi to nerf gun>he nerfs it for everyone except the people who were raping in the first placeYOSHI PLEASE
>>571988272>nerfs gun globally>there's an entire item dedicated to raping gun damage team wide>several obnoxious spirit fags in the meta>no pipe of insightCURIOUS
I hate this fucking piece of shit rat so goddamn much. He should have been a mole because every time I get one on my team I assume he's going to be a double agent.
>>57198852717% bullet resist holy shit they might as well take bullet damage out of the game entirely! and bullet resist is just impossible to shred, there are no items for it! how will m1fags recover? total spiritGOD victory yet again
>>571988527+17% bullet resist is literally nothingthe problem with gun is that gun resists don't feel like they do anything, you can build spirit resist and you instantly feel how it improves your ability to survive against a nukeryou can have every bullet resist item and an m1 can still just hold m1 on youjuggernaut is somehow the only actual passive item that helps deal with m1s
>>571985131
>>571985131>yamato anything but meta definingretard list
>>571988695your options for bullet resist are:resiliencebattle vestwarp stone for 6 seconds of resiliencebuying items that may not fit for your hero like vamp burst and siphon bullets for 10%one person buying that item and giving resists to the team isn't so bad
>here's your teammate bro
>>571988695>>571988756giving team wide EHP and gun buffs is very valuable.
>>571989808I agree, heroic aura is very valuable to buff your m1ggerits useless to defend against a m1gger thoughidk why you're pretending.
>>571989638>never picked in NS>meta defining
>>571990125>nsyea dude silver is sooooooo op they pick her all the time in ns and thats the only thing that matters ok seven is bad they never pick him lol
so is it a gun meta or a spirit meta now?
>>571990252It's dogshit meta
>>571990218night shift is metaseeker is not
>>571990057well when your resist goes lower than 0% it starts becoming damage amp. you are removing damage from the fight regardless of shred. and spreading a free battle vest to your entire team in a fight is pretty strong. it effectively makes your health pool for your entire team tankier. so everyone survives that bit longer. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist or anything. I just think that aspect is apparently undervalued.
>>571990252gun is strong across the boardcertain spirit characters are overtuned bullshit we'll pretend its Hybrid Meta nerf bebop, buff seven, that'll fix it
>>571985131Yeah seems about right but remember it will not apply to your mmr if you're coloured rank.
>>571990471I just checkedIts pretty even between spirit/gun, vitgods are suffering tho
>>571985131>mokrill in b tierHuh? Doesn't he have a 51% winrate at every elo, that nigger is rape incarnate
>>571992393he heals for way too much on his AoE in lane phase.Straight up cant even target him because its a waste of bullets and cooldowns
>>571988695Why are you guys acting like bullet shred is at all prevalent when you rarely see it at all? You rarely see Weakening headshot, let alone crippling, hunters aura is very niche, bullet resist shredder sucks and builds into nothing, and Hollow point turns off the second you take one spirit burst (as if 9% shred is alot anyways).You guys are treating it like people are regularly walking around with 30%+ shred which is never the case.
>>571992867I think stalker + healbane would be a solid bet
>>571993000crip[pling headshot isnt bad on characters like vyper since more often than not they'll get a headshot by complete accident
Ever since reaching eternus it feels like my games are just decided by which team rolled the mentally ill loser 90% of the time.
>>571992867This really depends on your hero, with some you can rape him every time he steps out of cover to scorn and make him go neutral or negative on HP.
>>571993000idk what elo you're at but yes I see that all the time
>>5719931146400 for a mediocre hybrid pen item with a weak antiheal isn't worth the cost. If this game made any sense, Crippling would be a dedicated bullet resist shred item but obviously the gun category is secretly for spirit users
>>571993000It has nothing to do with shred, everyone just remembers that one time they died to a m1gger with 80k then seethe about how armor does nothing They scale the hardest, they are meant to end the game. Bullet resist doesnt suck because of shred it sucks because you dont need it early and its insufficient lateI dont want them to buff it tho as that would just extend games, if the gun cant wipe teams its just aoe sloppers clearing waves forever
>>571993154>be a mentally ill loser>try to direct my team to not do retarded shit>get ignored or flamed>wind up pissed and getting into arguments with retards>get put on a normal team>completely chilled out, positive and useful comms>wind up performing really goodI just cannot handle retards at all. Like I see them as subhumans who are unteachable and here by accident. If they just ignore everything I say I lose my patience pretty fast.
>>571993434Id probably mute you instantly 2bh then youd throw and end up in the toddler q
>>571993434ur the person i'm talking aboutu are responsible for most of your losesmistakes are salvageable, a retarded pissbaby on your team is not
>>571993434I turned my voice chat volume all the way down to 0
why do i always get matched with retarded nigger faggots in this game holy fuck
>>571993614>>571993771It's okay if you're the type of retarded niggers I'm on about I couldn't give a shit if you mute me. You weren't listening either way.
>>571970702
>>571943515Everyone get to this point, you're not special.
>>571943515Wait until you find out that's not an achievement and you actually have nothing. Next time you're getting your hair cut, tell your barber that you're Eternus and watch what happens.
>>571993917
>>571993434voice_enable 0
>>571958615Warden, similar farming m1 playstyle but you can be more active.
>>571958615Copy paste the exact build onto mirage
>people doing zerial's meme heal victor build>get raped by antiheal
>>571958615graves these days feels like griefing, you literally don't do anything, playable trooper
Tell me you're having a good match without saying you're having a good match
>>571996846They should give wraith bigger tits
>>571996537his vid triggered me ngl because its titled mathematically correct then there is no math and its just a stream repost. There is already a vid by synergyexe thats titled the same except he actually does the mathIts not so bad tho because he gets a lot of incidental resist
>>571996846That's not a good match, that's just seal clubbing
>>571976167>>571977043>dude why do they have a secret playtest?
>>571997389Maybe they should have just let those who got in may 2024 be the cap instead of this shitty system they decided to leave for 2 years, my dog can get an invite. Adding the shitty alpha alpha only made people stroke their egos even higher. Shit company
>>571977043>Named baphomet>is mentally illAnd people will still deny demons
check out my killstreak :)
why does GT get to do insane amounts of both spirit and gun damage with no fall off and 22% execute for 0 risk whatsoever? previously the risk was that he's a sitting duck in the air but now he's got insane mobility. why did they decide he needs to be strong at everything with 0 weaknesses?
>>571998761he literally has no hp
>>571990252as long as Silencer exists and spirit doesn't get an item equally as broken, gun meta will never ever go away
>>571999129yeah? go get him then
>>571999461suppressor needs a t4 upgrade
>>571999129doesn't matter at all since he's got basically 0 damage fall off and can stay in the back slinging nukes
>yamatard talking shit about k/d because team fed them 10 kills in 10 minutes>Once the soul gap closes they can't play because they're used to always having a soul lead and diving 1v4>Dead silent as they lose>Game ends and they're 14/14lol
>>571999949ok >>571993558
>>571999949I main yamato and hollidaythis is not an issue for me
Healbane feels like it does nothing.
i dont know why people complain about russians, russians know how to play the game. spics and niggers literally don't understand how to play the game and think its marvel rivals or capcom
>>572000238>I main dishonest charactersthen you're never allowed to talk about the balance of the game or characters
>>572000292they have PAPER THIN mental and WILL run it the fuck down or soft int by afking all game if their ego got hit early game. I have 2500 hours on this game and 8k on dota and it's always been the same way.
>>57200025990% of items feel like they do nothing
>>572000238Enjoy them while they last nigger
>>572000259Mokrill BVLL here just build toxic bullets instead
It wasn't worth winning.
>>572001182Did you at least rankup?
>>572001374No.
>>571943515If it makes you feel any better I am highly accomplished by most traditional standards and I still feel the same way.You should read The World as Will and Representation by Schopenhauer.
what does this setting do?
I'm so tired of playing against Ivy, Holliday, and WraithRape Yoshi for making a fun game horrible
>>572001904Secret to climbing
>>572001904enables forced 50
>>572001904adds bumpscosity to matchmaking
>>572001904different queue
>>572001904Yoshi personally hand picks your matches
>>572002280I'm gonna add bumpscosity to your ass
>>572001904Matched with shitters who expect you to carry them.
>>572001904i made it to phantom 3 with this setting disabled. do i dare turn it on
>>572001904placebo button
>>572003340It does nothing, even before they "disabled" it, im pretty sure it did nothing Its not something that should be a choice imo, people think they want competitive but they dont really.
This game is so fucking blackpillingDudes will bitch the entire game or be bossy the entire match and the game ends and they have 200 obj damage or the least player damage on the team or some shitHow How do these people play games and why are they so bad
>>572001904Literally nothing since no one uses it, it just increases the chance you will get other people with it enabled but thats about it.
>>572003792I don't get itI'm going back to fighting gamesI do not want to depend on a bunch of mouthbreathing niggers
>>572001904I assume that it tries to match people with this turned on together.
update tonight?
Just had someone leave my game after feeding and told me they're going back to Overwatch the better game. How did we end up becoming worse than Overwatch?
>>572004369I mean they're not wrong
>>572004319balance patch maybecontent update never ever
>>572004369march 6th patch
Reminder that assists are just stolen kills and if you cant do basic math to add your last hit kills to your stolen kills then you should kill yourself
>>572001904absolutely nothing. disable it. at best it's placebo at worst it potentially lowers your matchmaking pool and might give worse shitters in a pinch.
>>572003792I've come across that. They're shit at the game and get told "just shot call bro" and then they do and this is the result. Even less impact because they're busy microing. You have to have some sort of impact to make calls. There's no such thing as a shot caller that sucks dick at the game. No one told them that.
>>572004369They nerfed Silver
>>571987974no listen dude it's actually completely fine that every obnoxious m1 character in this game has a passive that they don't even have to think about using (wraith's fire rate buff might as well be a passive)
>>572004369At least Overwatch doesn't end on hero selection.
>>571985131>Silver S tier>"Do I need to even get into it?"YesYes you literally do because if you ever stop lying through your teeth you'd realize you're retarded
>>571988756>survive against a nukerexcept grey Talon
it is impossible to kill Rems if they have a brain, unless you go phantom strike + unstoppable and go all in on him and hope your team backstabs the entire enemy team when they inevitable turn around and go on you
>>571985909no because my lane performance invariably gets counteracted by the wraith and yamato in the other lane getting fed a full course meal
They should make a metric for taken damage, it's very importan because what the more damage you can absorb the less damage will have a chance to kill your team.Tanks in this game should be recognized.
>>572006950well thats because talon's cooldowns are suggestions, they aren't real and hes free to do anything he wants
why does calico look like the chud meme?
>>572007190>it is impossible to kill Rems if they have a braindynamo is unironically 20x worse
>we get into a level 1 fight, goes shit>Dynamo dies, I'm on a m1gger and manage to get away after a chase>back at 50hp>by the time I escape, get to base, heal and get back, the fucking faggot Dynamo zips back to lane, starts spamming pulse and solo gobbles up like two waves and a shitload of orbs from the ground>I'm now almost 2k souls down the whole lane phase and massively behind on everything, snowballs into a shitshow because we're an ult downIs the winning play in this situation really to just intentionally feed them a kill? The respawn is so much shorter than the time I wasted with all this garbage
well?
>>572006943I really don't get why these retards decided Silver is the hero they will all collectively pretend is op
>>572007487not even the cooldowns>have 55% spirit resist>hit by 1 grey talon arrow from 40m out>take 750+ damage
im tired of all these fucking smurfs man, every single game I get all these alt accounts in them
anyone have any of those drawings of Rem saying "they do lots of things" while his helpers are doing stuff like gassing people or shooting them in the head?
>>572007297They do, statlocker shows it
They should lower the cost of items or at least implement counterspell into base parries
>>5720083751 if spirit, 4 if gun
>>572008925No, but have this.
>its your fault btw if your retarded teamates try to stop disadvantage urn instead of pushing objectives
>>572008375Maybe a 2 if he gets fed like crazy at the start of the game. Otherwise, Apollo is a non-entity once the actual carries start scaling up.
>>572010403>teammates throw lead by fighting enemy comeback urn>they die>enemy team pushes walker and closes the leadIt's crazy just how retarded people are. Where are the streamers to tell these retarded faggots fighting comeback urn is stupid, since that is the only voice people listen to.
It's rare, but I really love swings like these.
Why is holiday allowed to lasso me when im on the stairs of my warden then use her stupid bounce pad to air dash me under her warden and kill me?
>>572011474why not retard?>uuohhh I didn't have fun!!!Wah wah bitch, just kill her.
>>572011474Why does your match have 2 wardens?
>>572011474why did you allow yourself to get lassoed?
>>572011474same reason doorman is allowed to cart you away to walker/spawn for free
>>572011121What I've done before that works is get on voice and tell them to let them have the urn but get in position to kill them immediately afterward and make up the soul difference on easy kills.
Man I'd pronebone Celeste so hard...
>>572009967>one trick a character>cunts use QOL mods (cheats) to detect how many games I have>if the early game doesn't go well they're coping and seething about how I have a thousand games on someone and aren't carrying them>get sick of it and send an email off to statlocker asking them to hide my stats because apparently it's just not an option on their site>they comply and wipe my stats >qol modders can apparently still just see your shit through API>turns out the wipe is permanent and they won't restore your profilewelp
>>572008354the winning play is probably just to hide under tower, eat the healing creep solo and buy extra regen or healing rite with the first wave's money. literally never a bad play. I think you can only really afford to back like that when you get a double kill early and you're both low as shit.
>the only good sources of anti-heal (decay/spirit burn) have long cooldowns AND are dispellablewhy
why do so many people judge a person's play based on how much player damage they did? some of the most mindless useless brawlmonkeys Ive ever seen end up with a ton of damage but are actual dead weight during the match
>>5720088532500 games here. I will never smurf because it is dishonest. It deprives my eternus of a player that belongs there and ruins the integrity of the entire rank system by spoiling the fun of newer players. Hang anyone that smurfs. They all deserve 6 month hardware bans like DOTA did.
IM STUCK IN SHITLOW BECAUSE MY NIGGER TEAMATES KEEP RAGEQUITTING!!!!!!FUCKING STOP PUNISHING ME FOR THEM LEAVING FUCKING HELL YOSHIT YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD!!!!!
>>572010403No here's what you do. You can go split push. But tell your team to wait for deposit to finish. The resist/debuff aura is only present so long as it's in the deposit and ticking down. The second it's gone you can jump people and they no longer have that advantage. LET THEM DELIVER. Then jump them and either take mid boss or walkers off their respawn timers. You can also let them deliver and just straight up do mid if you're fast enough.
>>572013040Gotta buy 2Healbane+toxic is my preferred
>>572013041people cannot interpret stats very well exhibit A; Spirit Geist.
>>572013293>teamates>listening to melmao
>>572013040inhibitor and crippling headshots are good sources of anti heal. decay isn't even worth building unless you have two and your team is coordinated enough to decay after the dispel. but then your team has spend 6400 on two decays when you could just build crippling or inhibitor on your m1 and roll them anyway. healbane is good on some characters that have a lot of ways to reapply it often.
Whenever I play Pocket I always have the most damage but end up up with a terrible k/d
>>572013305I mean toxic + healbane are good cause it actually procs and doubles up (albeit with DR). I have no idea why decay is supposed to just be shit and isn't allowed apply spirit debuffs.
>>572013248If you leave an abandoned match you still actually get a penalty. It's just not the same as abandoning a match. There's basically a flag that says "this guy will leave" and it puts you in a semi badboy queue.The best thing you can do is wait out a leaving match. Try a funny build, chat with the enemies, practice something, etc
>Enemy team and teammates are shitting on you because your character sucks early game and these retards cannot grasp the concept of good scaling>End up with mvp after pulling the game back and winningTruly no better feeling
>>572013624So what you're saying is you're actually punished MORE because some nigger abandoned instead of you?What in the actual fuck can I get a source?
>>572013565it's because of your ult
>>572013932I didn't ask why
>>571941820Calm down Mina!
>>572013815yes bro, it literally shows in the top right corner whenever someone leaves.. no wonder you're stuck in shitlow. can't even see the big box of shit on your screen.
>wraith gets to 40k souls with 2 KP and having constantly died in solo lane (1/6/1)>enemies even get a midboss and maintained a 20-30k soul lead>they never get a shrine since wraith respawning everytime makes it a Goliath effort to push with ricochet>winlol, how is this hero okay
>buy purple and green items>winIts that easy btw
does anyone else here basically just not buy counter items anymore?the more time I put in to the game, the more i started trying to make my builds more ethical and survivable, but over time I now not only do shit damage but I also die a lot anyways.I'm starting to wonder if I should just say fuck it and going back to my old ways of mostly buying damage with a few greens at most
>>572014132>you can leave without penalty but will still count as a losswhere does it say "you'll be placed in a badboy queue list of leavers" dyslexic retard-kun?
>>572013624Are you fucking serious? what kind of retarded fucking stupid shit is that? BRO JUST PLAY THE 5V6 BRO OR YOU GET PUNISHED FUCK YOU thank you yoshit
>>572014171>enemy team has drain tanks>buy decay by like 12m>sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't do fuck all cause they just dispel it>buy curse instead>rape someone every minuteif t3 spirit utility didn't suck fucking cock and get dispelled instantly 90% of the time maybe it'd be worth building anything but curse.
>>572014274he's talking out his ass.see>>572014132
>>572014270>you can leave without penalty but will still count as a loss>still counts as a loss, therefore you are in a lesser queue>repeated abandonments will land you in the low-priority queue.retard
>>572014132it says the game will count as a loss not you will be punished and put in low priority retard-kun. of course it's going to count as a loss. nowhere has it ever said you get punished for leaving. you're just encouraging people to waste their and other people's time by staying in games that are already fucked. you're full of shit.
>>572014741>you lost so you're put in the "badboy low-prio" queueholy shit you're retarded
>>572014741ESL kun I.....
>>572012790i had something similar happen in a game i was in, even though it wasn't directed at me. dude on my team was saying we'd win because enemy team had 2 initiates. what is this mod they're using?
>>572014978>>572014943>>572014815>>572014623>>572014274>>572014270>>572014132>>572013815>>572013624
>>572015090QOL mod
>>572015141
>>572015141>merely pretending
>>572015314OI I WAS RETARDED ON PURPOSE INNIT GUVNAH
>>572014161Greens are TRASH
is there any way to tell if somebody is afflicted besides seeing their health slowly tick down?
I am so tired of broolingIt's like a russian roulette that I constantly lose>do well but the team don't do shit so you lose>do well but the team focus on kill so you lose>pull shitty item and the enemy rimmed yoshi for god tier pullskill me
>>572015090it's a mod called qol lock or something. should be bannable to have info presented to you in game that isn't available through any other means.
>>572014171The only one I flex into is KnockdownI think antiheal is good tho and you can build it basically every game
>>571980945what site is this
this Legion Commander emote looks like that bruised up 'Silver taking a drink' image that gets posted here all the time.
>>572014171idk wtf you're talking about. i see slowing hex practically every other game as lash/mina/vinny
>>572014171most of the time if you're buying counter items your team is already getting raped and it's over anyway. the obvious exceptions are slowing hex, knockdown, curse, etc to shut down one guy carrying.
why the fuck is Holliday from Illinois, thought she would be from Arizona or something like that
>go healchud mcg>more dmg than our ivy>more healing then our ivyyes I see the vision
>>572016646Dlg flamed me for saying miku is a healer then the next day the #1 micky started running heal build
>>572015673I clocked jeet brool as being a shit game mode day 1>RNG items>People can just gap you through sheer luckRetarded. They should just give you a budget for an early game, mid game and late game fight and give you a minute to come up with a build and let you roll it in a team fight over walkers or whatever. The fact it has its own state of balance tells me it's already a failure. I will never play it again.
>>572015639This is my apollo build now(+spirit shield, my autism demands 4.8k green)
>>572016395I feel like disarm has such high uptime that you can include it too. It helps it builds out of a busted laning item as well. The Silver and Drifter this game didn't get to do fuck all because I was spamming it non stop.
>>572016924it's made for tf2 players who don't want winning or losing to be competitive
why do so many people buy boundless spirit before reverb? Isn't boundless only really worth it if you are at spirit cap?
>>572017121yeah true i forget about slowing/disarm a lot but it genuinely just makes somebody not exist for laning phase, and doesn't ever really fall off.
>>572016924You can luck max a bit, the last item choice per round have higher chance for higher teir/legendary so you want to save your reroll for thoseAlso if you reroll a t3 choice you will always get more t3, useful to fish for Knockdown if you need
>>572017328Theyre dumb basically, there is a couple edge cases where boundless is better tho
>>572017374Forgot to add, legendary also reroll to legendary so you can fish for specific ones and every time you are offered one the enemy is as well
just won two games in a row, how do I appease yoshi to not get sent on a losing streak?
>>572017779Take a break and come back later
>>572017569Wouldn't viscous splash build be an example? Like wouldn't the reverb only proc on one where as boundless stands to benefit all splashes?
>>572016646It's the secret sauceUlt is mediocre without insane investment, turrets do nothing, heal and wall are your actual power skills
>>572017921I dont play vicious but that makes sense to me, can you reliably hit multiple splash?
>>572016480She is a unironic nepo baby larper pretending to be a cowboy since her grandpa was a famous one.
>>572017779If you win twice, close the game for a few hours.If you lose close the game for the day.This tricks the EOMM into giving you wins as it wants you to play more.
>>572016154so like, are you just testing the waters to see how off-topic one has to be to get a 3 day vacation?
>>572018378I literally turn the game off for 2-3 hours every time I win a match. I then played 12 games straight yesterday and won 4 games and lost 8. I went back to spaced out games and suddenly I recover my MMR. It's not even a tilt thing. The game just hands you retards when you play enough in a day.
>>572018378Wait is that really in the game at this stage?
>Can't do shit in lane because lane partner is completely useless>Can't do shit post lane because they're all running together, their heroes have like 20 escapes and team has no macro>Can't force urns because team has no macro>Can't splitpush because hero sucks at it and since I'm behind any 1 player can stop it and kill me with very little effort>Can't farm because I can't efficiently threaten walkers and it should go on the carries>Can't build utility because hero is all damage and team is not playing together anyways>end up 1/7 and we lose the game, lane partner ends up 0/12, team blames meWhat the fuck am I even supposed to do here?
>>572018508He's probably safe then, I don't think the squirrel spammer has ever had a post removed despite never making an on topic one.
>>572018790Play bebop
>>572018747I couldn't explain the state of matchmaking any other way. It genuinely feels like you just get handed the most insanely retarded people if you try to grind.
>>572018836i'm assuming they are one and the same
>>572018695Its not a tilt thing but it is a brain function thing. If you took a test fresh in the morning you score higher then if you took the same test after doing shit all day
>>572018790Choose a better hero?
why do people complain when they're playing a throw pick like shiv/silver/sinclairyou already threw the game before it even started
how often do the leaderboards update? I think I just broke top 1k
>>572018790Rapecel maxx and play mokrill
>>572018508>posting about deadlock is more off topic than the ow/rivals/gacha postsok retard.
>>572018997I get what you're saying and you're absolutely right in that you will perform better when you're not fatigued. But I'm saying if I grind this game long enough in a day I just start getting bunga teams that go like 10-45 by 20 minutes. Sure I might've played slightly better in those matches. Maybe it would've been 12-45 instead. But it's still super fucked and I can't explain eternus players being that fucking terrible that they get completely raped. Like surely they'd understand what's going on and pump the brakes?
Why do gay people live rent free in /dlg/ brains?
I'm a gigantic sex pest to every single Paige I see in-gamehalf of them love it
>>572019031Sinclair has had a 44% winrate at all elos for like a year now, where is the rework?
That's three games in a row I've had now with Victor players who have never played Victor before and give up somewhere between 7 and 10 kills to the other team's hyperscaler on lane.
GIVE ME A MATCH ALREADY YOSHI
>>572019446>no triple chinuhh
>>572019449there will always be heros between 45-55. not really a balance issue
>watching a friend of mine play>people are kinda retarded but to be expected>realise like 2 minutes later he's in a bot lobbycompletely indiscernible from oracle btw.
>>572019989The only real elo is initiate
>>572020429>calico bot runs it down into base guardians and gets fucking pinballed between both 100-0 and diesholy shit it's so accurate to oracle games
Name an item/hero and i'll tell you how to balance it
Why do m1ggers make this general shit their pants even when we're in an obvious spirit meta?
>>572018924Possible, though based on his posts in /d2g/ I don't believe he plays either game
>>572019989unironically, laning phase against hard bots has you under more pressure than against actual players. mostly because the bots go full retard, but still
>>572018790>team blames mecould be they're a stack and randomly picking a solo to blame, could also be your hero, some heroes are common scapegoats no matter what you do, like talon, vindicta, shiv, wraith, mo, sinclair etc. then there are characters like rem who will never get blamed as long as they're not going gun
>>572020574HAHAHAHAAHHAFUCK OFF TO CS/OW/MARVEL AIMTRANNY
>>572020556Torment Pulse
Im literally on a 10 win streak and im still only going up 1 rank every win...what the fuck is this shit Valve get me the FUCK out of Oracle dude
how the fuck do i make pocket work every game i feel beyond useless and i'm starting to think i might just actually be a helpless super retard i have dropped 4 subranks since i stated trying to learn
>>572021460hit ult win game
>>572021349by the time you're eternus it's more like 10 games per rank up
>>572021720its fucking dumb dude, I obviously dont belong here or the rank below because IM ON A FUCKING 10 GAME WIN STREAKIM ORACLE 5HALF OF MY WIN STREAK HAS BEEN IN ORACLEGET ME OUT OF HEEEEEEEEERE
>>572021190Already balanced as a combo item, it is unusable dogshit by its own but a powerhouse when bought with EE, these items compliment each other perfectly
>>572021460He's Puck with Venomancer's old ult and Scout's shotgun, if you can't make that work it might be time to hang it up
>>572021460you have to be trans to play pocket
>>572021793The game knows the 10 game win streak is fake, EOMM has been deployed to make you think you're too good for Oracle but these matches have been against agents specifically designed to sabotage their teams. Since the system knows the matches have been fixed for you, it counts them less for your progress.
theres too many god damn ranks in this game.Adding more ranks doesnt improve "bell curve" quality it just makes it so ranking up is more tedious and I dont give a fuck enough to play a MINIMUM of 50 fucking games to get to a good rank.
What does EOMM stand for
>>572021610clearly there's something i'm missing between "hit ult" and "win game">>572021846yeah hence the super retard theoryidk i feel like i hit like a wet pool noodle and can't stay in a fight for longer than three seconds without getting melted so i have to hit & run but then i can't go back into the fight because i don't have cooldowns
Me unga team bunga
>>572022167enlarged overfilled mommy milkers
>>572018747>>572018882It uses the same matchmaking system as CS and Dota.Of course it's in.
>Billy decides to go engage the universe while we're trying to catch up with him>he dies>"wtf why is Gheist not in the frontline"Lore accurate Billytard
>>572022167Emotion Oriented matchmaking.If you're on a lose streak and you keep playing the system says "oh anon likes this" and keeps giving you more.
>>572022721Cs and dota dont have eomm tho, also im 90% sure its different
>>572018058I think people underestimate how much vision you gain with turrets, its better then drifters passive since you dont need to be close. Its like a ward that lasts half a minute and is spammable in contested chokes/rotations
>>572022167engagement optimised matchmaking
>>572022167Engagement Optimized Matchmaking. When you're on a loss streak take a break a day or even a few hours. The next match you get into the game will put you against enemies that are below your entire team's skill level. So you get that sweet win and then you play another one to get another sweet hit of dopamine. The game may give you another free win, but after that you'll then be put with the biggest drooling retards imaginable expected to carry them.It's a system put in this game to make you continue playing.
>>572023556They are 100% different, its genuinely stupid to try to claim otherwise. CS doesn't even have heroes to take into account for MM. "muh EOMM" is just the latest dunning-krueger MOBA player cope>NOOO I WOULD BE ETERNUS 6 INSTEAD OF ALCHEMIST IF THE GAME HAD REAL MATCHMAKING INSTEAD OF EOMMIf you've played any game with actual EOMM like Apex it should be extremely obvious that Deadlock doesn't have it
>skill rating lowers because retarded nigger teamate did nothing all game>check profile>spic>27 hours>statlocker>initiate 6GET ME OUT OF THIS HELL HOLE FUCKING NIGGER GAME FUCK YOU
>>572024308No, Deadlock has EOMM. I know you like to slurp up valve's cum like the faggot you are but saying the game doesn't have EOMM makes you akin to a nigger.
>>572023939The vision is nice but the fact that they tell the enemy where they are and then die instantly reduces their value. More like a tripwire than a ward. The skill would unironically be better if the turrets didn't attack.
>>572024290This post is genuinely entirely "me ooga, team booga". If you're on a loss streak you're probably playing like shit and you're tilted, taking a break will improve your odds because you'll play better, not because the matchmaking takes pity on you. You're also 100% focusing on the skill level of other players in the match, like the game is decided as it starts based on if the MM gave you bad people or not. Its always "uncarriable retards on my team" or "sweats on the enemy team", always language to minimize your input as much as possible. The reality is that good players win games. Good players go up in rank because they carry, they have impact, they win more. You're stuck in your rank because you're nowhere as good as you think you are, and you're not doing anything to improve because you're content on blaming any external circumstances out of your control for your misery.
everyone always says me unga team bunga but what if me bunga team unga
>>572021846the joke is the other broken segment is his 2, since it basically has barely any downtime at t3 and makes his shotgun rip asses apart for free at t2, but nobody pays attention to it when advising on pocket.
>>572025618made for horse cock
>>572025618Fat and gross
>>572025618
>>572025875BUILT for knot
>>572022510Is that why I'm matched with Geist constantly?
>>572025101>Its always uncarriable retards on my teamfr
>>572024308>NOOO I WOULD BE ETERNUS 6 INSTEAD OF ALCHEMIST IF THE GAME HAD REAL MATCHMAKING INSTEAD OF EOMMNiggas actually think they wouldn't be going 0-15 in every Eternus lobby kekaroo
>>572025101>Its always "uncarriable retards on my team"this one's true though because my team is always the one that has me on it
Why yes, I AM a one trick. How can you tell?
>>572025875literally built for fat juicy dog knots>>572025959based
If it were actually true that you get assigned uncarryable teams frequently then Eternus players wouldn't be able to make smurf accounts and fly through the ranks with an 80% winrate, it means that if you're good enough you can influence the outcome of the vast majority of your games>Nooo but they're smurfing on people lower rank than themAnd yet you claim you belong at a higher rank, in other words the people in your games are lower rank than you believe you should be, and you're incapable of carrying games in the same way. Curious!
Heres a tip to literally get you solo to Phantom VERY quick:just coordinate with your team, and tell them what OBJ's to take and what NOT to take. 90% of people dont know the value of urns, or mid boss and just see shiny thing and WANT shiny thing. If you tell the Celeste to stop grabbing urn and wait for the enemy to force it and play it smart you can win MOST of your games.Yes, this applies even if you have two feeders on your teamSource: Just won with a 0/7 paige who was retarded and a 3/10 Silver (YJK)
>>572026876It's a moba bro. If your team is dogshit I dont care how good you are you AREN'T winning.You seem to have the counter-strike mindset when this ain't fucking counter-strike. Also you say this while probably being Seeker 4 or some shit to cope.
>>572025101>If you're on a loss streak you're probably playing like shit and you're tilted, taking a break will improve your odds because you'll play betterNot to mention if you're literally going into a match assuming it's some designated loss then guess what's more likely to happen. I really wonder how many perfectly winnable games have been thrown because some retard thought it was a loss before he even queued up.
>>572026993>How to get to solo phantom very quick>get teammates that listen to youNigga's posting from dreamland
>>572026993this is true
Silver is SO fucking bad dude.Picking her is a throw pick honest to god. Every game i've had with a Silver she doesnt DO anything and just feeds.Her ulti is only good for chaotic fights and useless in every other situationplus she relies on the fucking thing and it auto procs when the bitch is like 50% hp or lower which is already basically useless cause shes fucking dead by that point anyways.
still waiting for the EOMM mega expose`.
>>572027318if you call the silver a nigger enough times it works.and really they only have to listen 50% of the time for it to work cause I guarantee the other team is also "see shiny capture shiny" without ANY real thought on if they should take it or not to benefit the team in that scenario.Winning is as simple as "do NOT force urn if we get shit on every teamfight"
do you know why i play seven? there is no better feeling when you mark your prey with static charge and see them scurry away helplessly, and as the noose around them tightens and soon stuns them, they are helpless. kneeling. hoping. begging to be spared.to answer those pleas with a lightning ball and power surge bullets to send lightning coursing through their body, obliterating them, reducing them to a few of many souls in my pocket is a euphoric feeling indeed.
>>572027396she's S tier though
>>572027158I'm not denying that you can get unwinnable games or uncarryable teams, but the amount of truly unwinnable games is much less than the average MM coping shitter likes to thinkYou are not being given uncarryable teams 100% of the time, you're getting them 10% of the time and you're not good enough to carry them in the other 90% of losses you experience.>Also you say this while probably being Seeker 4 or some shit to cope.Try again
>>572020937Ah, mobaplayers, I understand now.
>>572025101So how do you carry a wraith/infernus duo that is 0/12 and 1/10 that run at the first enemy they see while the rest of the enemy team is missing ignoring everyone on the team telling them to pull back.>You're stuck in your rank I'm stuck in Eternus, so yes I deserve this rank.
>>572027554They dont listen any percent of the time, you just think your limpdick shot calling did anything when you hit heads on the coinflip 15x
>>572027798watch out the silver schizo will think you're pretending to have a rank for validation and then proceed to talk to himself for 2 hours
>>572027275I think its just that humans are drawn to gambling, and a lot of people playing mobas see it as a slot machine. You queue in, your team is good enough to carry you? You win, you feel good. Your team is not good enough to carry you? Blame yoshi, valve, gabe, matchmaking, the pros, your team, the enemy team, anything except for you. You get to feel some righteous rage, you feel good any way and move on to the next pull. There's no actual intent to improve.
>>572027798the goalpost moving is gonna be delicious i can taste it
>>572026993>just coordinate with your teamwhat if im comms restricted?
>>572024571They could add modes for summons, aggressive(always attack), defensive(only attack when they or hero are attacked), and passive (dont attack)Right click could cycle the modes
just witnessed an eternus 6 holliday miss 5 barrels in a row on a billy who was 20% HP
>>572027798People just don't understand that you don't need to win all games to climb rank, you just need to win most of them. As in, 51%. Even if you get the unwinnable shit games people claim to get with bad teammates, you should still be ranking up in the long run if you're good enough. They aren't ranking up because they're not good enough to carry most of their games, but they will never recognize it because blaming the teammates is just simpler and feels more comfortable.
>>572028173an eternus 6 holliday is actually just "player who didnt play a single game of holliday until exactly 14 days ago" so he might still be learning pls be patient :)
>>572027798i literally do not care about rank flexingim FORCED to fucking play ranked when i dont care about ranked.this game would be better separating them but Yoshi damn well knows that nobody would subject themselves to ranked if we had a choice.Ranked is also worse than casual at giving people dogshit teammates. atleast if I get dogshit teammates in casual I dont care as much.fuck you yoshi add casual to this game holy fuck
>>572027702it feels like they raped abrams to make her the weapon damage tank except she is somehow even more braindead to use.
>>57202819613k deficit at 9m>>572028228they were like 5 meters away the entire time it's literally inexcusable. people buy accounts and it's most obvious at e6.
>>572028252>I don't care about ranked>If I get bad teammates in casual I don't care as muchSo which is it, it sounds more like you care so much that you have to play casual modes for your own sanity
>>572028252rank is casual if you align your chakras
>>571975623>>571975957So does that mean ~15 years from now child molesters will be revered and 'pedophile' will be considered a slur worthy of cancellation?
>>572028408he thinks casual will help, when we currently have casual ranked and casual deathmatch
>>572028638if jews don't start getting lynched yes
The second i load into a match i insta mute all 11 other players, drop a quick n word bomb, and then just play normally. Got from alchemist to ascendant 2 this way
>>572026993People really underestimate how valuable it is to use your microphone. It just needs to be small call outs, "im ganking blue, get ready", "i'm taking the urn, lets fight". "i'm in trouble anyone can help me?". Small stuff like this goes a long, long way to improve team coordination. So what if sometimes your team won't listen to you? They will 100% never listen to you if you never talk. The more you rank up the more people will actively use their mics, it has a direct correlation to winrate.>>572028396Thanks for proving my point dude. You are never going to win every match, you lost that one, that's not the reason why you're not ranking up. You're not ranking up because you're not good enough to win most of your matches, and that's all you have to do.
I'm convinced Ivy is overtuned. Tell me why I'm retarded
>>572028408im sorry that you got to eternus only for me to tell you that i dont give a fuck.but no i dont care about ranked, the problem is that with casual you get a balanced team relative to your skill level in casual it's not a hard set number so you get people from every rank playing which balances them out better.in ranked, I get dogshit teammates and im forced to play with them and if I lose it's not as fun because I know that im stuck in this rank and can't climb out to get better, more balanced games.>inb4 just climb outnope, sorry ranked is gay and so are you for caring about your rank.
>>572028748>got from pisslow to shitlowgrats...
>>572028856nice essay dude you could have just said he clocked you and moved onyou dont "not care" you care TOO much
>>572028782>Ult that allows her to escape that can be popped immediately after stoneform ends>tether that heals and increases movespeed/firerate>a built in get-out-jail free card>aoe to control the fight>a gun that is stornger than some m1sshe is overpowered as fuck but isn't looked at because of the weirdos who jack off to her.
>>572004369March 6th patch and all the ones after them.No really. Look at March 6th and all the patches afterward. All of them are focused on turning the game into 20 minute teamfight slogs.
>>572029035you forgot to say "NTA" to pretend like you aren't just samefagging broanyways have fun in eternus man
>>572028940BODIED that FREAK
>>572029260i'd tell you to have fun in return but it sounds like you should just play a different game where you dont get rank anxiety or whatever
>excited to have made it to ritualist>see people calling it "shitlo" still and that im bad for even being in ritualistoh... okay...
Some of yall niggas belong in overwatch ngl
Morbid curiosity got the best of me so I bought a secondhand account for 1 dollar because I don't even know how you get the game on an alt account without spending money on itI got it to Eternus 2 and listed it on one of those playerauctions/g2g type websites for $80, obviously not worth the money for the time invested, but that's not what it was about anyway. It sold overnight on auto-delivery to some european and now when I look at the account's match history he is just losing over and over and probably already deranked to ascendant. There's definitely a market for this stuff and it's probably enough for turd worlders to want to do it for a living.>>572028856Coping shitter>>572029470People will call every rank before E6 shitlow you should just ignore it and focus on improving
>>572029470anon, don't you get it...every rank is shitlow...
>>572028856honestly I kinda agreeLeague casual is fun as fuckDota casual is fun as fuckDeadlock ranked is unfun because your stuck with a 50/50 shot of babbling retards or a stomp and that isn't fun at all.In casual nobody really cares so games are a lot quicker and more fun.either that or just add a surrender button so im not forced to be in a stomp for 40 fucking minutes
>"you only have yourself to blame for being stuck in shitlow">"just play a carry and you'll win">"How are you stuck in seeker?"If you're one of these niggers that spew this garbage on here then you deserve to have your urethra raped by a lionfish spine.Not one of you can offer me advice because I'm doing NOTHING WRONG.
>>572029569>igor buys an eternus account for 1 months salary in his country>proceeds to queue up M1 characters and farm all game and have no impact based on his low KP every gameHonestly the jokes write themselves
>>572028252>atleast if I get dogshit teammates in casual I dont care as much.Why is it always people that say ranks don't matter that care about them the most?
>>571943515And then what? Sit at the 1% playing the same monkeys? To say you got e6 then sit in the qctual rank you do enjoy as a smurf? This is why grinders need to actually jump off a bridge onto concrete
>>572029569He bought an account to escape his bad EOMM but you already ruined it for him. So sad.
>>572029781Cherrypicking one game where you did good and all your team did horribly doesn't null out anything that was said in the thread alreadyI could log in to your account and get it out of initiate in a single session.
>>572027798>Rem supportsissyyou got princess carried to E6
>>572029569I bet this guy was Archon and thought the matchmaking was holding him back
>>571988208You can't parry the bat without counterspell and he gets free heavies with the unstoppable from his ult. Unless you're cheating or the Billy is a moron you can't predict the light melees, anyone with a brain won't do it while they're reloading.
we need to kill the faggots who flex their ranks for validation while also having the most dogshit opinion.As a friendly reminder: you can queue with any rank until Eternus where it can only be duo's, and since the playerbase is so retarded you can just stack a meta comp and steamroll till late Phantom.Source: it's how I sell accounts lmao
>>572030082THESE ARE ALL MY GAMES YOU DISINGENUOUS NIGGER
Finally got to E6 as Rem pillow nuke one trick
>>572030241Rem is 10% of my games
>>572029569how delusional do you have to be to pay $80 for an account to play in a rank you obviously don't belong in? this is literally the same thing as paying to get inside of a VIP section but nobody there knows you and hates you just for being there
>>572030304seeing someone blow up on a "lmao its not your team its (You)" person is giving a LOT of schadenfreude There are more variables at play than "just you" and anyone who ignores that to push whatever narrative they can is a retard who needs to be ignored.
>>572027964>>572030241>>572030347this took longer than i thought
>>572030350It's obviously his shitter teammates that were keeping him in Ritualist. Unfortunately they also must have bought accounts to be in Eternus.
>>572030474I've already accepted it's just a troll and shitlow really IS a prison for people deserving of a higher skill rating.After all, how is it in any sense of the meaning "accurate" to say the skill rating relflects your personal skill when it goes up or down based on whether your TEAM won or lost?its not, and the only reason it's not fixed is because it's in early access.Otherwise it would take way more into account.
>>572029470i was hardstuck ritualist for 3 months, once i got out i reached oracle in a few weeks. when i was ritualist the game would put me in seeker lobbies after 3-5 loss streaks. so i've experienced a decent range of ranksi literally cannot tell a single difference between seeker and oracle lobbies. sometimes there are people who actually use counterspell in seeker and sometimes there are oracle players who don't know about sinners, investment spikes, sliding giving infinite ammo, never buying antiheal as infernus etc.
>>572030474Nobody is ignoring outside variables, I haven't even pulled the "you are le common denominator xD" once. You are literally ignoring what I've said to continue sperging "DUHH ME UNGA? TEAM BUNGA? ME OOGA TEAM BOOGA!!! DOOKA OOGA ME UNKA TEAM BUNKA"
>>572030474>There are more variables at play than "just you"Those variables get lost in the mix when you play more games and it is not up for debate. Instead of worrying about how your teammate lost you the game, you worry about what you could have done better, even if it wouldn't have won you the game, so that you play better in your next games. If you write a game off as "my team was ass" you will refuse to learn anything from the game and will spoil your own fun.
the problem with ranked is theres too many fucking ranks and they do jack shit to weed out the goodies from the baddies.Every rank goes like this:>Rank 1-3 dogshit players and losses>Rank 4-6 good players and good/close gamesIf you wanted to get to Eternus the quickest way is winning 66 consecutive games which is dumb as hell>inb4 rank jumpingdoesnt exist, sorry. i've won 20 games in a row and haven't jumped anymore than 2 ranks per like 10 games won but the game will derank me for losing 1 (ONE) game.maybe if there were more players the bell curve would work but right now it doesn't at all and leads to bad games half the time.
>>572030304Prove it.
>i'm stuck because of da hecking eomm!!!sure buddy, just buy an account like vladimir then and >>572029569 LMAO
>>572030854>urn, mid boss, winning lane, getting objectives, ect. are lost in the mix and not up for debatekekjejlollmaoroflmaolullmfao, even.
>>572030474i've always ascribed to the 1/3 theory in any multiplayer game>1/3 of your games are guaranteed losses>1/3 of your games are guaranteed wins>1/3 of your games you actually have control over the outcomeand as long as you perform consistently well enough you'll have a positive WR and climb in spite of whatever ungodly stomps you get. it's kinda like that "assuming you're not a dumbass there are 5 potential dumbasses on your team and 6 potential dumbasses on theirs" theory, mathematically you still climb with good performance but there's still games where you just get your shit rocked
He's right, you know
>DUHH ME UNGA? TEAM BUNGA? ME OOGA TEAM BOOGA!!! DOOKA OOGA ME UNKA TEAM BUNKAliterally me
over half the people dont want to admit they got their rank via party before changes >yeah i got e6 i can do it again>sits in ascendant for eternity playing with other retard smurfs
Hello, new player here. I really like to play Lash but I've noticed a major flaw in this game's design. There are items that counter me some take the skill of pressing parry for counterspell, while the other two are indomitable and unstoppable which one is automatic and the other is press a button for no CC for 6 seconds. Which leads to the question of why isn't there an item for this counter item? It seems like really poor game-design. Anyways the question I have is how to I carry as Lash when there is obvious items mentioned above that literally make his entire kit useless? Because the way I understand how Lash should be played is by initiating the fights it literally has it in his three major selling points for the character, but with how everything is it's more like he should be played like a dirty rat that waits for your team to fight to do anything which makes absolutely zero sense that isn't a initiator that is a janitor.
>>572030781>After all, how is it in any sense of the meaning "accurate" to say the skill rating relflects your personal skill when it goes up or down based on whether your TEAM won or lost?What is your personal skill worth if you're not having a positive impact on your average team's winrate?
>>572031031Yes, those games you're still seething over in your head get averaged out over time. You can't possibly think everyone with a higher rank than you just won more coin flips in a row. Everyone has to deal with bad teammates sometimes.
>>572031175oh 100% lmaohell even with the changes you playing with friends carries you at least to mid Phantom.
>>572031205Nobody knows how to counterspell Lash below ascendant don't worry about it
>>572031175Is bonemashing real?
>>572031216see >>572029781You're welcome retard
>>572031205press curse before they press unstoppable, press silence wave before ult so they lose indom. it's like pressing parry before their melee hits you
>>572031346>One gameYou had a positive impact that game. What about all the rest?
>>572031241>You can't possibly think everyone with a higher rank than you just won more coin flips in a row.I do think that
>>572031205Most of your damage should come from your gun on Lash. Counterspell has a 20s cooldown, indomitable 50s. Play around your teams abilities. Lash ult is much better as a counterinitiate spell, not only from a positioning standpoint, but also for the reasons mentioned before with getting people to burn their defenses.
>>572031505Yep almost every game.kys
>>572031572Prove it.
Reminder: Ronaldo Messi still loses soccer games despite being the best in the world because of his team
>>572031673You're not Messi and you're not playing against pro teams though.
>>572031673To keep in line with the analogy, this would imply Messi would have never had a chance to get on a big team because every time he played, his dog ass team held him back. What you guys are doing in this thread is the equivalent of acting like Messi wouldn't be able to solo carry a game against grade schoolers.
>>572031175Idk I solo queued the account I sold not even playing any of my main heroes and it doesn't feel like human elo starts until high Ascendant minimum and even then its a coin flipThe weirdest rank is definitely Phantom/low Ascendant it feels like everyone is just gambling in lane trying to cheese with random parries and then getting raped for it
>>572031848why the fuck would messi be playing against grade schoolers?stupid analogy, stick to food ones
>>572031825>uhm thats uhm le different because uhhhm I said so!retard
>>572031673he also reached the highest levels in the sport and got big moneys instead of being stuck 1v11ing shitters on the streets because he was consistently good enough to climb to the top
>got out of Alchemist again>first Arcanist game>going swimmingly>THIS MATCH HAS BEEN ABANDONED>frontline collapsed>souls advantage got comeback urn'd>steamrolled into the base>mfw dropped TWO ranks back into AlchYOOOOOOSHIIIIIIIII
>>572031673This perfectly describes my situation I'd be Eternus by now if I wasn't put in the EOMM loser queue
>turbo retarded niggers going a collective 0-50 in an eternus 3 lobbythis game is dead
>>572031925things are about to get messi in here
this game needs surrender button
i dont understand how parries work and I dont even go for them cause I get stunned everytime I tryim Phantom 5 btw lmao
>>572031980Uhmm you see uhmm thats your fault because uhmm I said so!
No one actually believes that Silver is anything but F tier, right?
>>572031925Because in Deadlock you are matched with noobs until you carry enough games to reach your pro rating. You are Messi in this scenario, but clearly I'm giving you too much credit here.
>dota patch december >deadlock patch january>dota patch june>deadlock patch _____it's happening.
>>572032065It does, just go to the midboss and beat it until it sounds the rape whistle and your team will be forced to endure yet another rejuv assault
>>572032000had this one earlier
InitiateGOD here, where are the mokrill nerfs?
>/dlg/ anon that actually deserves to be out of arcanist as an individual player but is also a raging sperg that tilts his entire team into oblivion the nanosecond they don't do what he wantsTalking to you guys, I wonder how many of you would benefit by literally just shutting the fuck up.
>>572031971>>572031825he won a coin flip for a recruiter to see him, then kept winning coin flips to not break fucking femur/ACL to continue playinghis life is nothing BUT lucky coin flips in the grand scheme of sports players.think of who could have taken his place if the scouter went to a different place at a different time?
>>572031460But doesn't curse make me do less damage?>silence waveNone of the builds I have run that should I start doing that?>>572031538So should I be building him more gun than spirit?
thread's missing tranime vampire poster, black women of valve unoriginality poster and gorth, what else is missing
>>572031241literally two people can go to a casino and have drastically different experiences
>>572032213>picrelplayed on an EU server once and it went exactly like this, but it was all in russian
>>572032124but the noobs im with arent grade schoolers bro...
>>572032213This happens in Deadlock but when you ping missing and call it in mic the 2 knuckleheads in the next lane didn't hear you or didn't listen and then they proceed to open the chatwheel like the raging ruskies they are and go>CALICO IS MISSING! CALICO IS MISSING!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! CALICO IS MISSING!! THANK YOU!!
>>572032213>mute comms>turn off mic>forced to play lane janny while teamates kill themselves teamfighting in enemy jungle over and over and over againIf I wanted that experience, I'd just play overcuck retard
>>572032281>silence wavenot worth it on lash, get refresher instead>curseworth it on any character especially if you're fed, damage penalty doesn't matter when curse should 100% guarantee kills (if it doesn't the game was over either way)
>>572032213>uh.... kyle?
Graves is such prime rape meat.
>>572032213i know someone like this who is stuck around archon/emissary 1 thing can wrong TWO MINUTES into the game during laning and he will be sperging about it 25 minutes later
>>572031673>everyone talking soccer>nobody noticed this dude combined 2 namesyou guys got dunked on by showing you have NO idea what your talking about and didnt even fucking know it.everyone who responded in earnest got BTFO'd the moment they stepped in the door
>>572032680>>572032461idiot derailing thread KEEP ARGUING ABOUT THE GAME
>>572032189I was the only one on my team that got any kills
>>572032461>>572032680Boots, hat, gloves and holster stay onEverything else off
>>572032213I know a guy like this who's hardstuck seeker because he can't stop tilting/ragequitting games
>see premuted nigger>instantly report them for comm abusesimple as. enjoy getting random chat bans.
>>572032323If two people go to a casino every day for a year they will both be losers, unless they play something skilled like blackjack. If two people go to the blackjack tables every day for a year the guy who is better at counting cards is going to earn more money even with morons sitting at your table and hitting on a hard 18 from time to time. I don't think you understand how bad you need to misunderstand the fundamentals of math to think that people with hundreds of hours are lucking their way into solo queue ranks.
>>572028196This is true, but you have to consider that you have the better odds if you're good only on average. It does not mean that you will score 51 wins every 100 games. If God truly has it against you and wants to go full Book of Job on your ass, it might as well be 490 unwinnable games in a row, followed by a 510 games win streak that'll finally get you to the rank you deserve. Which you won't ever get to because you're a quitter and quitters can't be winners.Extreme and improbable example, but you get the idea. You'll only get closer to your actual odds over a significant amount of time, if you're unlucky it can take longer.
>>572032281You still want some spirit items but some key gun options you should look into are headhunter, crippling headshot, recharging rush, weighted shots. And not exactly a gun item but siphon bullets is good, too. I guess it'd be more fair to say you do "hybrid" damage but realistically after you step on someone you're just trying to click their head while they are CC'd. I think spirit items like extra charge, spirit burn, or tankbuster can still be good. Quicksilver reload is a must.
>teammate won't stop bitching>pause the game>alt f4honestly more satisfying than winning the game itself, knowing that this fag has to wait out the pause + 5 minutes minimum just to take a loss either way
the truth is no matter how much me unga team bunga you post an eternus player could play 1 session on your account and get you out of your rank
>math>statistics >per capita Made up bullshit that reduces lived experiences to nothing but patterns. If you believe in such things you in theory serve chaos.
Don't worry guys, next winter update is gonna be litTrust the process
If I want better teamates, do I play heroes I have a lower relative skill with or something?Is that why I'm getting literal initiates as teamates all the time?
>>572033524Yes. The hero skill elo system is retarded
>>572032680cute girl (male)
>>572032281>But doesn't curse make me do less damage?Yeah, but it makes the enemy do 100% less damage
>>572032461>>572032680what's his name?
>>572026794mmr?
I don't understand how if Graves is meta for five seconds, she gets murdered within the hour. But for anyone else, well we have to wait until we do a full on patch to adjust anyone. WHY HASN'T REM BEEN SHOT YET?
>>572026794Why is every vindicta a one trick or a aim botter?
>>572033984that's sanya_sniper from Abrahams
>>572032213Oh man. Heh. That was real bad
>>572033473next winter we're either getting this again or just nothing
>>572033524Unironically yes.I started playing fundamentally easy heroes I never played before and can't play well and I'm steadily climbing ranks because my teammates are carrying my garbage ass.I have never seen a worse matchmaking system.
>>572033524>>572033736ive had wraith and geist shown as the top 2 "high relative to skill" for months since i've started playing again and i haven't played them at all since 2024
Anyone ever get a sort of "impostor syndrome" as they climb? I feel like a lot of my wins I'm just along for the ride but my stats are good and its hard to quantify the impact I had on the rest of the map allowing my teammates to play well from early rotations and the like. Even in games where I go 20-0 it feels like it wouldn't have been possible without some dude on my team playing a strong support.
>>572034290Then dont be surprised if you get mouthbreathers as teamates and lose
Eternus soon, I can feel it. Do you guys believe in me?
>>572034618Start spamming mokrill
>>572034618是的 nigga
>>572034618ywnbac
its funny when they make all these brawl specific balance changes but never ever ever change anything about the absolute queen of brawl. paige has been a must pick in brawl since day 1. yeah its brawl it doesn't matter but why even try to balance the mode in the first place if you aren't going to be serious about it? just doesn't make sense to me to ignore the elephant in the room
>>572034618>Played Abrams>Played Apollo>Played Bebop>Played Billy>Played Calico>Played Celeste>Played Doorman>Played Drifter>Played Dynamo>Played Graves>Played Grey Talon>Played Haze>Played Holliday>Played Infernus>Played Ivy>Played Kelvin>Played Lady Geist>Played Lash>Played McGinnis>Played Mina>Played Mirage>Played Mo&Krill>Played Paige>Played Paradox>Played Pocket>Played Rem>Played Seven>Played Shiv>Played Silver>Played Sinclair>Played Venator>Played Victor>Played Vindicta>Played Viscous>Played Vyper>Played Warden>Played Wraith>Played Yamato>Played on Europe>Played on NA>Played on Asia>Played on OCE>Played on South America>Played with a friend onceDidn't earn it
>>572032213Man, that image takes me back. I never ever rage in matches and usually just sigh and carry on with my life, but the one thing that would genuinely make my blood boil to the point I felt like it's gonna spill over was my good irl friend I played Dota premades with for a literal thousand hours. He'd always make the same mistakes, never learn and every single time he died stupidly he'd whine on voice comms how it's %REASON%'s fault, but never just his.
>mexican using his full name going 0/14/3
>>572034694I only like to pick heroes who can buy cultist and fuck off to hit neutrals, especially if the lane went shit. Mostly Seven and Venator to get here with Billy as 3rd pick and getting him occasionally. My thing with Mo (and heroes like him) is I never feel them take over the game, even when I'm against one who has the most souls and lots of kill participation. With my carry heroes I know as long as I get ahead I can usually own the fight. With Mo, Abrams, Dynamo, etc. I'm worried my setup will be wasted I guess. >>572034827>>572034917I'm in a very Chinese time of my life. Happy year of the horse.>>572035062
>>572035092are mexicans just brown russians?
>>572035201russians will actually try to win, mexicans are just giant lane creeps
>>572035092the return of juan.gonzalez.2007?>>572035201no that'd be brazilians
>>572034618>天命在我Senior, I would not dare not believe.
>>572035201south america is like sea.
>mina spamming pings and chat wheels>tell him to stop spam pinging like a south american>he IMMEDIATELY starts chimping out about racism and afks in fountainclocked
>>572034306as you improve you'll start going like 30/0 and getting MVP every game
>>572032971How can you tell they're premuted
>>572029470>>572029569I was just happy to get to Oracle 5.But I went on such a massive loss streak / rage queue that I went down to Archon 2. Back to Archon 6 now.I just want to be Phantom because its edgy and looks the coolest.
>>572035653he means like, he already had them muted from a previous game where they were teammates
>>572035560Any tips on breaking this ceiling? I tried watching some night shift but quickly got the vibe that I wasn't picking up a ton of information useful to stomping pub games. The weird API gating that Valve insists on is leaving me in a state where I don't know how to find good matchids of good eternus matches. I tried to watch some streams but this game really prefers being watched in client even moreso than Dota.
>>572035714>I just want to be Phantom because its edgy and looks the coolest.Bro same. Why would you want to be ascendent and be a stupid tranny face.
>>572035742Oh I see
>>572035803honestly, I know it's obvious but the best tip I have is just stacking up a bunch of hours played
What if Holliday had huge tits and a fat ass?
>how do I climbSpam mokrill
>>572036468then i'd actually play her
>>572036468Id still prefer graves
What am I diagnosed with if I enjoy making people angry in my games than actually wanting to win?
>>572034203>>572033984KekActually was a male
>>572029036WIERDOS????!!?!
>>572036658You are the eomm
>>572035803Statlocker>leaderboards>your preffered hero>pick a guy in the top 10>it gives his match history and you can watch in game
>>572032000>I don't understand how one team can lose in an eternus lobby.
>>572036658true sigmalover of the gamefunctional member of societytax payerbusiness ownerrespecter of womenaficionado
>>572029470I've grinded up from initiate to archon and matches feel the same. It is shitlow, I don't think it ever ends.
>>572036658swole benji syndrome
>>572036682of course
>>572036658I mean if you want someone to throw something out of the DSM at you over Deadlock it'd likely be some sort of sociopathic tendencies. Realistically you're likely just a bit autistic and don't fully comprehend the reality of it being 11 real human beings that you're annoying. If you do recognize this, then I don't think its a stretch to call someone who derives joy from the suffering they cause others a sociopath.
>>572036468So that's why she's the only one that stuns off the jump pad...
>>572037064idk
>>572036848I'm talking about games where it's like me and one other guy 4 kills each and the rest of our team are all 0-14-0 or around that number of deaths. 0 kills. 0 assists. Just feeding their asses off.
Is this what I'm supposed to do?
Dying in lane is beneficial as long as you come back and get a kill with your full HP right away. You get more souls because they are worth more and they will have a longer death timer. If you time it right and your teammate helps anchor, you don't even lose the wave. It is bad to get the first kill or two in a lane. Prove me wrong.
Reminder that if your team lost, it was your fault.And yes I'm brown
>And yes I'm brownstopped reading
coming back should be way fucking harder because its insane how we win lane phase, win mid game, win late game, and they're STILL able to pick us off like flies despite being 50k souls behind. Like a 1v6 is one thing, but a fed as fuck DPS should be able to win a 1v3 if they're 15/2
>>572038143it doesnt help that you have a melee Rem that 30k above you and your team because they keep eating all the sinners
>>572037785>die>enemy doesnt overextend so you cant kill them
>pocket, lash, dynamo on the same team>only team fights ults we have are infernus and drifterKILL YOSHI AND HIS SHIT MATCHMAKING JUST ADD A DRAFT ALREADY
>>572035249>russians will actually try to win
>>572038074well... yeah? I hope you did cause thats the end of his post...
>>572038339this. we're literally backing to tower, determining whether either of us needs solo heal, and buying extra regen or healing rite after raping you. we're not even gonna reset. we're gonna play like pussies until 3m and go box and maintain our lead. you're not outsmarting us by feeding us a 1k lead minute 0.
>>572038143honestly kind of agree. I think paying attention to souls is the most important thing, because a souls lead tells you whether the game is a wash better than someone being fed as fuck.
Please say something nice about my escape.
>>572038391let me put it another way: a russian knows that feeding is bad. a mexican or black doesn't understand that concept. they don't understand that a soul advantage means the enemy is stronger, they only want to fight 24/7
>be 50k ahead>misplay and get caught out>piss and scream that you 'deserve' to be able to misplaylol
>>572036780Furries are mentally ill queers yes
>>572038739I think a lot of players, whether they realize it or not, see the late game as a formality. If they win lane they feel entitled to a 40 minute power fantasy.
>Yamato player starts feeding kills in the late game because they're used to 1v4ing in the early game and having their character win fights for them without thinkingYou love to see it
Tankbuster should upgrade into Spirit Burn, it makes sense when you think about it.
>>572026794I have a newfound love for Vinnie.Any non-obvious protips? Beyond "click head well"?
>>572036780Yes anon this is like every SINGLE FUCKING silver player a furry troon who feed because they don't know how the game works and want to play LE HOT FURRY GORL
>>572026794Based Vinchad
>either do ok with silver>or go 0 and 10 with silverWhat can be done to fix her?>"j-just revert her ult"preferably a suggestion from someone that isnt inbred and brown
>>572038731russians are physiologically incapable of looking at the minimap in any game. also "trying to win" and "wanting to win" are two different things. russians might want to win but they sure as hell don't try unless you call melting down in orcish and continuing to play like shit as "trying to win".
Why didn't anyone say something nice about my clip? :-/
>>572032971honestly yeah, that or it was a really bad tranny voice.
>>572039315You escaped! Good work
>>572039449I also got a cheeky kill before I left somehow. It was so cool! I don't think anyone's first reaction to seeing that clip is "the Victor dies and Venator escapes."
>>572039107Max her flight first, ulti second.Her crows are more powerful early game then you might think and can kill if they're 1 1/2 hp bars.Ulti gives the +4% damage bonus if it hits as well so all you need to do to start stacking it is hit the enemy within 4 seconds of them dying to get the stack.Duration Extender + Cooldown is all you need to stay up in the air indefinitely. Even if you dont get a kill by the time your flight ends you'll literally have 2 seconds until its back up.Opening Rounds is a really good buy early game if your struggling in laneunstoppable > dispel magic because you dont have to worry about watching everyone with unstoppable. Just proc it before a teamfight and enjoy easy pickings.focus rem every fight
>>572039315it was 0.01% more interesting than the geist nigger that posts the most mundane clips of his gameplay on the grounds that it wasn't the geist nigger.
>>572039219just revert her ult
>>572039606>hey guys look at me rape 20k soul people with 35k souls for the 57th time
>>572039948I had 24k and the Bebop had 23k, the Victor 20k, and the Calico 21k. It was a pretty fair fight. Or is that what the Geist guy does?
>>572039219>What can be done to fix her?Nerf slamfire more I thinkCharacter is fundamentally broken though there's no way to make her not overpowered
>>572040123yeah it's what the geist guy does
just fucking remove holliday and silver from the game dudei dont think ive EVER seen one of them do good and they're a liability to the team and it just makes retards pick them to throw.
say something nice about lefaa
>>572040209holliday is an extremely boosted character who is more aids than stomp dynamo ever was. 650 damage bomb every 1.4s that also knocks up. and you get fucking FIVE of them. have people even realised they could go refresher on such a build and lasso someone twice and vomit 10 barrels at them for 6500 damage?
>>572038709Nice.
My adderall kicked in time to climb
I'm trans and only ever play Holliday, Silver, and Celeste, if it mattersErernus btw
Refresher Seven is so fucking funny holy shitthis item should NOT work on ultis cause it makes characters stupidly powerful
>>572040294he sperged out on voice chat to me once and he didn't sound as embarrassing as most dorks do
>>572040209>i dont think ive EVER seen one of them do goodi wish
>>572040591this screenshot just shows eternus is full of carried retards if Holliday does good in it
>>572040591yeah that isn't a discord stack or anything
>>572040663did you miss the patch notes retard-kun? she's waltzing around doing 400 damage barrels x5 like 10 minutes into the game
>>572040209shitlow self report
>>572040779You literally can't stack at that elo
>been doing suspiciously well recently, victory green all aroundThat's it, I'm queueing Paradox. Wish me luck on this cursed fucking hero.
>>572040591>>572040209Of course you wouldn't see them do good, they aren't superheroes. Surely you mean do well?
>>572040779>>572040956Pretty sure anything after eternus 3 is hard capped to duos
>>572040184She underperforms in every single game.I have to beg someone switch with me when I'm laning with her because I'm effectively soloing the lane without the soul benefit.She's THAT bad
>oh man I slam fire someone for 400 health at level 1 woe is me I'm so weakfuck off
>>572027798Eternus player doesn't understand that even "bad" players at Eternus are ridiculously good at the game and thinks that because he carries players like that then it's fine at all skill levels.
Rem is weak right now, could we get a slight power increase to pillow toss?
>>572041369Do you sincerely think an Eternus player has always been Eternus and/or doesn't have a smurf like every single other Eternus player?
>>572040209Holliday is OP as fuck this patchSilver is literal garbage
>>572041369If you were an Eternus level player you'd be absolutely dumpstering every game and winning 90% of them up until high phantom.
>>572040294I did not expect him to look like that with how weird his voice is.
>>572041459its just this threads epic clever uno reverse >you think X? you must be low elo>oh youre eternus? doesnt matter because top 0.whatever%
>>572041586This, sounds like an autistic sperg goblin but he actually looks pretty good desu
>Queue Vindicta as the highest prio, also queue silver since she's cute and Celeste 'cause she's piss easy, both lowest prio.>somehow keep getting Celeste>I rape the enemy team>Queue again>get Celeste>rape the enemy team>Queue again>get Celeste>rape the enemy team>5 win streak>I'm not having fun since I'm not playing the hero I want to fucking play>mfw
>>572041189whenever I lane against silver they have to play the most spastic tryhard match of their life to maybe break even because if they don't they easily get punished. yeah slam fire is dangerous but worst case scenario you might actually have to buy healing rite and kick boxes before shoving silver back into the cuck corner 12~ mins into the match. the only real danger she presents is her being placed in another lane against your matchmaking sanctioned braindead brown teammates that will feed her.
That's two games in a row now I've gotten where the other team has multiple hyperscalers yet loses because one of them does badly on lane and abandons.
>>572038709Good Job!
>>572041567if matchmaking in this game was normal sure. there's eternus players with smurfs that only have 60%ish win rates because of the sheer amount of other smurfs and just because of how bad the matchmaking is in this game.
>>572041890nice fake green text story nigger jew
>>572041990Even if she gets fed it doesn't matter, the hero can be 10 and 0 at 10 minutes and have 0 impact after that.
>>572041189Slam fire deals less damage than an average nuke + a couple of shots at level 1
>>572042440>""""Only""""" a 60% winrate WHILE playing against other smurfsand yet i'm still supposed to believe that timmy from seeker 2 is secret-eternus if only the matchmaker wouldn't hold him back
>>572042440>smurfs playing against smurfs is unintendedlol the cope in these threads is some of the funniest I've seen.
they should 6 month ban anyone caught smurfing
>>572042639that's true except usually when I encounter silver in my games I'm usually playing support so I can't personally go stomp her out and I'm reliant on like the brown wraith on my team to take care of her who is 0/7/2 and was the one that mostly fed silver...
>>572042808>>572042871I accept your concessions
>>572042440>>572031852>75%oh woe is me im stuck in alchemist 3 and i cant move i cant rank up officer yoshi
>bomb geistI execute
What are you supposed to do when the enemy team has doorman, billy, abrams, seven, and venator. Just never go to the urn?
>>572042615>fish pennies and greasehot
>>572043785Aggressively cut them off/fight them before they get in so you can fight on your own terms instead of being constrained to a small circle into a bunch of teamfight and area denial slop
>>572039219Change slam fire from current hp to max hp
>>572043785pretty much and hope you have heroes on your team good at ratting
Am I crazy for thinking the game will throw you into a team of people all playing their low prio heroes that they never touch against a stacked team?
Why is bomb giest a thing when viscous does everything bomb geist does but 10 times better?
As far as the matchmaking is concerned I think there just needs to be a strict solo queue option like Dota 2.
I HAVE WON 12 GAMES IN A ROWWHY AM I STILL RANKING UP 1 GAME AT A TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME
>>572044476because she has an ability called essence bomb that some people like to build around.
>never play apollo before>decide to try it>get put in obvious initiate game>somehow expected my teamates to know how to farmI dont know what I was expecting
>>572031980>>572032093It apparently is because I now won two games in a row right after and I still haven't moved an inch.Very cool Yoshi, very cool.
See the reason you lose isnt because of your teamates or your skill.it's because you bothered to queue in the first place
>>572031980its okay anon. I'm in the double digits of winning and still going up 1 at a time and I genuinely honest to god don't understand how this is happening.I thought skipping ranks was possible unless they either changed it or I was fucking lied too
>>572044259No, for some reason Valve feels the need to cancel win streaks with loss streaks.After the rank switch I was Oracle 3. Worked my way up to mid Ascendant, even played a few games in low Eternus somehow, was fun.A few weeks ago, out of nowhere, every single game, independently of how much I carried, my teammates started going 1/14/5.This went on until I fell right back into Oracle 5.I'm so fucking done man, I don't belong into this rank category, I won lane 15/18 of my last games and went positive in around the same despite essentially all of them being losses.
>>572045297that's why I went back to doters for now. they got their major update, and in deadlock the matches are completely lopsided with one team having 4+ people with double digit deaths before 15 minutes.
>>572045297>No, for some reason Valve feels the need to cancel win streaks with loss streaks.yeah it's called 50/50 matchmaking and has been a thing since overwatch. It's fucking retarded, it basically states that "the game is in a balanced state if you lose as much as you win" which is dumb.So it artificially forced it on you and the only way to break the streak is to play with friends (and even then it'll try its hardest to force 50 you)
I want to take the calicopill and be a nigger in the enemy jungle killing people and a general menace early game. Is this hero useful at all late game though? What's the game plan?
>>572045652calico is the most useless fucking character in the gameshe does nothinggets nothingand dies, sad and aloneI have NEVER seen a useful calico in 250 hours of playing
I just mega rape as Abrams whenever I encounter a team that doesn't parry
>i win a game>2 feeders on enemy team>i lose a game>2 feeders on my teamyou have 0 agency in this game, the winning team is whoever doesn't get the feeders. also that's why comebacks are impossible. doesn't matter if the comeback urn gave 10 gorillion gold, a feeder isn't magically going to become an average player in the middle of the game
>>572045583You will win more than you lose if you are a higher skill than your ranking. Each game the matchmaker assumes you have a roughly 50% chance of winning, it doesn't take it upon itself to try and even out your streaks unless you're an obvious smurf. This is like saying God stops your lucky streak of flipping a coin and landing on heads. >>572045725I've run into a lot of Calicos that just have their pulse on your farming pattern and catch you in the jungle constantly. They stack souls because of their lunge ability and can be a nuisance in the early and mid game. I do find she is usually useless late though. I like the idea of just using cat to get between lanes to farm faster similar to a wraith TP or something. Maybe I can try Mirage and go full Furion mode with my TP and only use it to get extra waves.
>>572045583>friendsYes, I've noticed matchups going a lot smoother with high ranking players. Issue is that my friend group sucks and I'd feel bad ditching them to play with others, so I usually either smurf to play with them doing meme builds on another account, and solo queue on my own account when I have the time to fit a single game between work&studying. All the more painful that all of the latter are forced losses now.>>572045652She's decent. She was broken for like half a year before the shop update happened, and she never turned fully horrible since then. Just rotate a lot, learn the tunnels, watch how pros play her as a spirit nukers and see how she feels in your hands.>>572045725>250hYou know this is nothing for competitive game standards right
the only time i've ever jumped 2 ranks was from Alchemist V to Arcanist 1.I dont know what the algorithm is for deciding that but I think jumping ranks is almost impossible because since the matchmaker cant go off stats it goes off wins/losses and always puts you in a game it THINKS you'll lose to see if you belong in that rank (and if you dont it'll keep going higher and higher)
im in oracle, have no idea how to play and people keep denying me.I miss when this game was fun and I could casually play, now its just unfun people who are trying their asses off (I dont blame them) and me who just wants to play after work...I try to melee niggas and they just parry me instantly, lane phase is a nightmare and everything after is just me getting focused like a mother fucker.
I like this game but playing it alone is so fucking exhausting dude, I feel like I ran a mile everytime I win.
>>572047145might want to see a doctor anon
>blatant 3-round brawl rape from my team>"yo gg wp guys great game everyone!"lmao
>>572047145tard wrangling can be very exhausting
>3 losses in a row with half our team going 1/10/3>enemy team pauses as patron goes down each timethanks Yoshi
>>572040294He looks european, and I mean this in a bad way
>Play with friends>They're almost all very bad at the game>Laning with some of them is basically just a 1v2>Handful of games I've played as just a duo have been significantly easier because thanks to randoms I didn't have to do everything and win every fight>Still have a 60% WR and am steadily climbing ranksI think you guys blame and hate on randoms too much desu
>>572048398After one game of this you should have closed the game and gone for a walk.
it's over..
>>572048613>gone for a walkI live in the most dangerous part of my city and its 9 PM... going for a walk would cause me to go 0/1/0 within 10 minutes of stepping outside.
>>572048613it's dark and scary outside
>>572048571prove it
>>572048726>going for a walk would cause me to go 0/1/0 within 10 minutes of stepping outside.It's fine, it's just laning phase.
>>572048831Yeah, but theres a lot of gankers
>>572048928and a bunch of Infernus and Ivy mains...
>>572048928Woah, at least call them gankas.
>>572031339Oh sorry you forgot the part where it's made infinitely harder to react to because he can buffer it on a zipline for some reason
>>572042615You got me, I'm actually on a 3-game win streak. I just wanted to be a little bit hyperbolic.
>>572041890How are you not getting Vindicta? I literally get her every game as highest prio.
mo and krill is so dogshit and weak nowthe rapist has become the rapee
>Paradoxical Swap and Carbine did more endgame damage than the bomb>on a spirit + hh & mystic buildJesus I don't think I've ever played a roflstomp this bad. They all just dropped dead before the nade was even halfway through.
>actually doing well>get a fucking power surge>check outside>no rain, thunder, wind, nothing>get back online>we're losing badlyIt's just one of those fucking days man.I want to kick a toddler in the fucking cranium GOD DAMNIT!!
>>572049874WHY'D YOU COME BACKYOU DOOMED YOUR TEAMTHEY COULD HAVE GOT THE GAME TO NOT BE COUNTEDANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>572049943>T BE COUNTED>ANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONthats not hjow it works nigger
>>572049874>power surgei can smell the ozone already
Graves redesign when?This hero is so cancerous no matter how many nerfs she gets.
>>572049943That's not how this works at all. Yoshi will personally dumpster your rating with extreme viciousness if your team loses with a leaver.
>>572050131whats viscous gotta do with leaving?
>>572050090shes not cancerous right now she does nothing shes a sexy schoolgirl melee creep
BROS BROS BROSWHAT IF slork IS THE ADVERSARY?!
>tag along to abrams retard nigger>he walks right into the graves line>hes about to die>jump off>also get caught in the trapthank you faggot nigger dev retards nice hitboxes
>tell lane partner to fall back 10 FUCKING TIMES>they dieIN THE TIME IT TOOK YOU TO STAY IN LANE AND FUCKING DIE YOU COULD HAVE GONE BACK, HEALED, THEN COME BACK
>>572051089but in overwatch i can 1v1 trust
>>572051089All I need id the heal minion.
I get unreasonably horny whenever I'm killing the enemy Paige
>>572051259this cat makes me REALLY uncomfortable...
>rem nigger genuinely thinks he deserves to liveLOL
>>572051309I know its sped up, but always wondered why it was moving its tongue like that.
>>572051403it looks like a fat man trying to top a hot goth girl with low self esteem...
Deadlock? More like, Deadass
Sneedlock? More like, formerly Chucklock
>>572043785kick billy and abrams' dick in during lane they have dogshit laning phases, abrams moreso than billy>b-but I missed the parryearned loss then
>>572050412My favorite part is how finicky the height needed to not get hit by her stupid handsy line sometimes you jump over no issue, other times you need to double jump. Tag Along, though? Yeah whoever implemented that needs to be taken out back and shot
I feel like if I ever see Billy as Holliday I just explode.
>>572052502I like when I tagalong and my game goes sicko mode camera smashing through the twin towers impaling even the sunthen magically puts me where I need to be
>>572052817aka tagging along while mo is burrowedbugs out my game every single time
Mina haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>572052702how? you're the goddamn air force and billy is an army grunt
>>572053043Mina Kek
>>572052817>>572052925I still haven't fully grasped what causes this but it seems to be almost like the camera gets bugged and stuck in one place. It does this with a few other abilities too like Mina's or Wraith's and one time it actually put me completely out of the game for about 2 minutes after my camera stopped spazzing and just decided to stay in one place half way through the floorCan't wait for valve to fix it
>>572053043Mina Heh
Mina, Paige, Silver, Celeste?All thirst for BWC.
>>572053373>Big Warden Cock
if you rearrange the letters in rem you get jew
rem chudlings on mcginnis turrets might be the most aids laning phase i've ever dealt with in my life
>>572053894Thank you for giving me new things I had no idea were possible. I'm about to make this everyone's problem
>>572053043Mina lmao
>>572053043Mine Hee
>>572049603hence why his green text story is fake as shit
why the fuck do base guardians have backdoor protection based on their specific lane this game is so shit
eoslock
When I think of games I played that reached eos I usually think "I wish I played that game more" not "I wish I didn't waste time playing that game"
>>572055293well you're fortunate you played fun games and not shit like destiny 2
>>572055293>"I wish I didn't waste time playing that game"Tekken is the only game I've ever played that's made me feel that way.
Legit question, did they change something about Abrams and not mention it in the patchnotes? I've seen probably ten Abrams players, and this is in Archon mind you, who have said that they can't get a free melee off after his wall stun and inevitably wind up feeding like crazy.
>teammate buys titanic magabandon match
>>572056437>teammate buys monster roundsabandon match
>teammate buys tankbusteruninstall game
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>>572055293yeah xdefiant was great had like a 75% wr because it actually didnt have eomm
make new
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Gay or straight?
which one bwos
>>572058437late by 3 seconds and its not even wednesday retard
>>572033009>If two people go to the blackjack tables every day for a year the guy who is better at counting cards is going to earn more money even with morons sitting at your table and hitting on a hard 18 from time to time.to be fair morons at the blackjack table impact your individual ability to play a lot less than morons on your deadlock team but i'm getting lost in the analogy
