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Bearing Down Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>571936070
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>>572058415
This one
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>>572058415
Who is she with?
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Get the fuck out of my room, I'm playing Deadlock
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>>572058663
Pocket
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>>572058737
He seems the type.
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I am betting this thread will get deleted.
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>no update in 6 months
Genuinely forgetting why I play this game
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>>572058546
>>572058547
/dlg/ is officially straight!
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Why does da Dwiftah talk like a hmmmmm oooooh looooooord black man from the south?
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>>572059224
Based.
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im such a splatcel goo maxxer viscous player
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I feel so bad. I lost so many games that I got put into a lobby two ranks lower than my current rank. I shit all over the lobby, paused at the end and typed "gg ez." It was a cathartic release. Is this what smurfing feels like if so I'm going to make a new account.
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>>572059408
assuming you're american, have you seriously never been to New Orleans?
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So uh
When are they buffing Silver?
This hero is trash lmao
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>They gon' screeeem they gon' dooooooom, they gon' coooooom
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i'm just starting out and playing abrams and how do i tell when i should be meleeing, heavyy meleeing, and shooting? i've died over 10 times in both of the games i've played him in (and won each time because we had a fed graves each time somehow) but i know i'm just feeding and i can be playing smarter. this is like first 5 games of deadlock for me and i know i should play bot games but i don't want to play against bots
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>stop watching every deadline tuber except metro
>start winning more
Its that simple
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Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
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>>572060763
best i can do is buffing her summons. oops, never mind, that ruined games in every elo below ascendant so those suck now too
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>>572059695
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What elo do I have to hit for Jorge.Gutierrez4572 to actually clearly waves and not just brawl 24/7?
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>>572061950
Eturnus VII
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>>572059581
I'm not American.
They should add a hero like Joe Black and he should talk in patois exclusively
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5b2o-gBf5U
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>>572060763
Make the auto aim either an alt fire or an activated part of her 3. Then give her a real gun.
It would be much easier to balance.
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I'm so fucking bad at this game literally running around clueless
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I guarantee you that Paige flicks the shit out of her bean after every match
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>>572062701
ewwwwwwwwwwwww, why's there shit in there???
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>>572062701
but why
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>>572062684
You just need to relax dude, it's not that hard
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>>572062684
Stop crying!
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>>572062797
shes freaky
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another week without a patch
nothing ever happens
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sex with geist
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I wonder how many "bone" puns Graves has to deal with
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Sex with Venator
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>>572063816
Careful Rem!
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NO CRYING IN THE CASINO
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>>572064058
Calm down Mina!
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gay sex with apollo!
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>bomb giest stat padding so they dont derank by healing people with her 2 even when they're full health
they're learning
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>>572065327
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>>572059201
I love that stupid fish girl.
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Graves
>Walks super slow like I just got done pounding her
>2 stamina bars
>piss gun does fuck all for damage and only works up close
>skulls can be destroyed with 1(one) button press (You don't even have to aim!)
>Ult is useless for pushing lane and puts a sign on the enemy minimap that signals GRAVES IS OVER HERE COME KILL HER
Yoshi: Hmm yes I need to listen to retards that die to this character and screech about LE AUTOAIM. Nerf her to oblivion

Every other character
>Normal walking speed, 4 bars of stamina
>Ability with a 20 meter range that blast off the enemies head on a 10 second cooldown
>Movement ability to chase or when you make a fucky wucky
>Passive abilities that actually do something
>Lane wide ult that basically insta kills if you catch someone with it
Yoshi:My these crayons are quite delightful, whats that? Patch update? Oh just keep buffing these characters
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gunshit ruined this game
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spiritshit ruined this game
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poop shit ruined this game
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i ruined this game
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>joechuck doorman has 14% kill participation
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>>572066661
I don't think you've actually played this game
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>>572067496
Not an argument
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>m1ggers are dishonest even outside the game
Absolute scum.
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>>572067534
Not a refutation
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>>572067319
Doorman's win rates would be absurd across all ranks if that build didn't exist
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new character concept: negress girlboss
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>>572068915
LIFTING
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>>572068915
THE SHADOWS CALL AND I ANSWER
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game really doesn't give a fuck if you play a character for the first time, it will throw you against people who will fucking destroy you
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silver tankbuster hoodwink seeker is impossible to climb from european vampire touhou im eternus btw eskaybussy celestehorsecock paigebestiality parry = cheats
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>>572069216
too bad there are no casual or bot modes to practice new characters and you're forced to grief ranked games
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>>572069436
how do i make bot games fun tho
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>>572069528
is just feeding and doing nothing against humans fun for you
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rank 1 haze player parzelion says in pubs curse haze literally has 0 counter other than ganking her before she gets fat
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>>572069528
Bot games aren't meant to be fun, they're just meant to be less agonizing than getting raped to death while trying to learn a new character in pvp.
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You guys ever play against someone so bad at the game you wonder why you're playing against them. I mean legit clueless ape who doesn't understand a soul difference. I had a bebop run at me as I was playing Vyper 20k ahead of this guy, instantly vaporizing him.
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>>572070730
>run at me
now i'm asking genuinely, was he actually running at you or did he see you, turn around, and then you caught up to him with eight stamina bars and a coked up slide before unloading into his metal ass
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>>572070730
yes i had a haze rush unstop as 5th item today
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Today I went into 7-11 and got a Big Bite Hot Dog and filled it full of onions, jalepanos, chili, and pico de galo at the toppings area. Unfortunately 2 hours later in a game of deadlock I felt a rumbling in my stomach during a mid boss contest. This caused me to shart myself losing control of my character losing us the game.
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who is the worst hero in the game right now?
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>>572071709
the amazing henry
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>>572071420
Characters for this feel?
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>win lane
>side lane on your team leaves/disconnects
>lose game

Horrible feeling.
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>>572071709
north ixian discrimination
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havent played the game in a week...the desire is gone
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>>572061728
should also say "bwoodfiwsty" and "cwuel" in the tags
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>>572071709
Graves but in actual matchmaking it's Sinclair with a 44.4% win rate, Mina and Venator are almost as bad at 45%.
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>go save some retard out of position
>they leave me to die instead
fuck these players man
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>>572072862
Thanks for saving my k/d/a retard! I'm not trying to get punished by the system for feeding! The less deaths the more points I get to rank up!
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>>572072913
that's not how it works lol
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>>572071709
Bottom three would be Vindicta, Graves, and Celeste with Graves being the worst of them. It's a testament to how terrible the playerbase is that she has a 50% winrate even in ascendant (though she is appropriately and predictably bottom 10 in eternus and bottom 1 in E6).
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>>572073175
What's wrong with Celeste?
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>>572071709
Lilah Silver, Jobber Supreme!
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>>572058415
any tranny janny whiteknights want to try and explain this one?
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i feel like Sinclair's 3 was made only to steal rejuvs
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>faggot janny deletes another SFW Deadlock OP
Can't have shit on /vg/
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Erm, check please! (but not for janny)
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>>572073241
I don't think she's bad per se, the only truly dogshit characters are Vin and Graves, but I wanted a third so I picked her. That third spot could easily go to Bebop or Sinclair, maybe Drifter. Any of them are probably worse on paper. But she feels uniquely weak this patch to me, probably because her urn contest is bad on top of how hard she is to play well.
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I am so bad at this game. I am fucking crying. I am gonna uninstall and download cookie clicker or something. I am beyond washed up.
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i love hatewatching joe chuck
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how many hours until I can just wing my builds like in dota?
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tried a couple of bot matches but i feel like they aren't teaching me shit
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graves is built for ntr
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>>572075289
bots are retarded in this game
play street brawl to get a hang of movement, aiming, pressing buttons
then play the main game
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You will never be a real unicorn
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>>572075289
Play a few characters that look interesting.
If on clicks, focus on that.
Stay in bots for a little bit and just follow a popular build.
Make sure when you purchase the items, you actually read what they do. It will help you learn them.
If a character gets boring feel free to switch it up with another, but eventually you will stomping average tier bots. But really what you should be doing imo in the learning / bot matches phase is just figuring out your character. Once you know that, then kind of pay attention to match objectives more.
>Bridge buffs spawn every 5 minutes on the second starting at minute 5.
>We killed two of them at 30 minutes, maybe we can run urn or take mid boss (assuming your team is all up)
Things like that.
Then learn just one or two small things about movement around the map.
You don't need to be an autistic movement tranny who can zip from Green to Yellow in 5 seconds. Just small things like
>Holding crouch after a mantel makes you slide instantly giving you some speed.
Useful for getting bridge buffs or moving to those vents after climbing up.
>Wall kicks into a heavy melee to get on a ledge without using much stamina.
When I learned the game, I mostly learned on Mina.
Pros and Cons to that I guess because I was made of paper and died super easy, but it helped me learn how to move around more because shes quick and decent with stamina items.
Abrams was my tanky backup though.
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>>572071709
paige but unironically, only foids play this garbage and they lose every time
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>>572062658
I like this idea. Her 3 being a passive sucks anyway. 3 could be a Seven/Wraith style active that makes it autoaim and apply essence theft for a temporary period, and then it maybe also amps up her summons damage on the person she's targeting to fulfill the idea of a close-medium range summoner directing her minions. Outside of that her M1 is just a normal gun that's weak but can still direct summons from afar if she just needs to confirm a kill from far away on a low health target.
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>>572068915
THIS ENDS NOW!
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>THEY ASKED FOR THIS
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>>572076587
You shouldn't always do that.
But reasons people do attempt it are because some characters have ults that can move the enemy team away from the pit or immobilize them giving them a chance to steal the rejuv. Or someone is stupid/ballsy enough to attempt to dive in and parry the enemy team as they melee the rejuv so they can steal it themselves. Or they believe that if they initiate a teamfight while the enemy is slightly weakened from Mid Boss, you might even be able to steal a rejuv or two mid fight and turn the tables.
That said, it is a bit of a gamble, often times an unfavorable one.
>Obese Mina
picrel
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>seven is about to die
>less than 20% health
>he fucking ults
>dies instantly
why the fuck do they all do this, I see it every game
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>>572073530
It wasn't zoophilia so it isn't allowed, sorry.
The drumph destiny thread also had to go.
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why is Graves always a must pick or a completely worthless. It happens every few patches
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>>572077460
I only recently picked her up.
Felt she was just annoying before, but didnt care about playing her one way or the other.
Now I feel like shes fantastic though.
But maybe I'm just a retarded Oracle player
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>>572077380
FPS players do not generally understand the notion that sometimes dying is the optimal play. Any and every button should be pressed to try and forestall death. This is because FPS games traditionally do not have cooldowns, or at least cooldowns so long that it'd be worse than eating the respawn timer. These are oldheads who haven't acclimatized to the Overwatch "preserving super meter is all that matters" paradigm or played traditional ASSFAGGOTS where a bad Black Hole or Echoslam will get you flamed more than a dozen deaths.
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Sure hope there's a patch next week gutting victor and spirit abrams (they can buff gun abrams)
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>>572077380
Aside from them just panicking, he has a lightning strike he can use during the ult and it can sometimes clutch out a kill.
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>>572076916
but even people who can’t do anything but left click enter the pit alone while the enemy team is midbossing. is it really worth it to steal a single rejuv charge and die twice versus regrouping as a whole team and fighting them together or even picking them off one by one later? i just don’t get when you should go in alone and when you shouldn’t
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>>572077460
Some characters just have a design where they're either broken or useless, never achieving equilibrium. Dota's Outworld Destroyer comes to mind.
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>>572077460
lacking a better term, all of her shit is automated. so when the numbers are good its brainless to stomp someone with it and when the numbers are bad graves can't outplay the numbers sucking
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>>572078029
>i just don’t get when you should go in alone and when you shouldn’t
some characters can contest by themselves, others can steal one and run away. The rest are just idiots who go in thinking they can farm a sick twitter clip and die horribly in the process.
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>>572077456
>It wasn't zoophilia so it isn't allowed, sorry
more like it wasn't IR porn so janny deleted it because he wasn't busy jacking off
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I pray every night that valve guts victor so bad he has a 12% winrate, I hate that piece of shit brainless zero effort hero
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>>572079067
I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU YET
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>>572079067
They've done that multiple times but it procs his ult and he comes back even stronger
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>>572079335
His ult shouldnt do damage at all, hes already getting a revive and a big fuckoff stun
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What the fuck is a 4.8k investment?
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>>572079563
when you buy 4.8k shekels of stock on the tel aviv exchange
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>>572079563
Retirement fund
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>>572079563
i mean if they made it to asc without knowing that theyre probably decent at the game
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>>572079563
if you buy a t2 and a t3 you get to a specific breakpoint which gives u more stats relative to other items
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DEAD GAME FUCK ITS SO FUCKING DEAD

Dota 2 over here getting patch but us?? Fucking nothing
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>>572079669
Hold rem gentle like fleshlight
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doesnt matter if yoshi drops 20 new characters, pve, and perfect balance tomorrow.

no matchmaking fix = GAME IS DOGSHIT
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just letting you know that the visual bug of paige's aoe goyslop book where the damage aura is still there 3 full seconds after it has visually disapeared, is still in the game after 2 years
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>>572081552
i got HYPERLINED by that today and i almost lost my mind
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Which character gives the best head?
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i broke their ankles
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Streetbrawl in a nutshell
>Whoever has more AoE goyslop / a m1gger with Silencer and any 1 item with spirit resistance, wins
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>>572080519
billy…
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>>572081770
nothing about this is impressive
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>>572081770
cool edgeboost sis
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>>572082285
raped
>>572082464
ty
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>>572081770
Why do you show your keyboard if its not demonstrating the key presses?
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>>572082548
It looks like it's from the replay
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>>572082603
Oh, I'm retarded.
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>>572081730
drifter has no gag reflexes and swallows his enemies whole like a snake and has very large hands
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>lane against duo abrams/venator
awesome i love just being stunned constantly
>they both buy echo chard stuns
awesome
>Ivy also echo shards her statue
please valve I need more stuns in the game
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Picking sinclair should be consider a form of soft inting
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>>572084518
sis your weighted + frenzy + blood tribute + unstoppable + spellbreaker?
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>>572081770
>bug abuse
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>>572084598
not my fault Valve made the worst hero the most fun hero
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>>572067319
meanwhile my ivy support has a kill participation of 70-80% every game
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>>572073670
>CC thing counters mid
>Buy counterspell
>CC thing no longer counters mid
>Even get a parry refund so you can immediately parry the guy that just tried to CC you to take rejuv
The only exceptions really are Dynamo, Billy, Abrams and Yamato because they either don't give a fuck or have built in CC immunity
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>no updates
holy deadflop
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>>572061950
Nightshift
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>>572084518
I literally do not want to hear people crying about echo shard stuns when you can stack 70% debuff resistance in this game or buy counterspell or unstoppable and my entire builds fucked. This is on top of having diminishing returns on CC.
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>>572089204
I have asked many times, and never gotten an answer.
I will ask again.
What mod?
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>>572089429
Dead mod.
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>>572089448
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>>572076396
>TIME TO LET OUT THE B - AAAACCCKKKKKK
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https://gamebanana.com/mods/689241
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>>572069351
All these, but unironically.
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Im so mad at what they did to Holliday man she was shit they didnt need to turn her brainless cant even fucking get my main because either metaslaves take her or she's banned fucking yoshi man
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>retarded drifter chases a fed enemy into a non pushed lane past their guardian
>erm nice work ivy thanks for not coming with me
the people who play this game are so fucking stupid
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>>572090205
now imagine laning with a calico
>IVY YOU'RE SO FUCKING USELESS WHY AREN'T THEY BOTH 10% HEALTH SO I CAN SLASH AND GET SOULS USE YOUR GUN THAT DOES 150 DAMAGE PER MAG
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>>572089679
I genuinely hate the people that make these stupid things.
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>>572090205
>"BRO HE'S ONE BRO HE'S ONE"
>The bro in question is not actually one
>But your lanemate will die in the process and blame you
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>>572070405
True but she's only good for 1 kill per cd so sometimes its not enough
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i see a lot of seven builds get suppressor but am i crazy for liking mystic slow more? i feel like i get more value out of the move speed reduction and it later builds into lightning scroll which to be fair is a situational pickup, but suppressor doesnt build into anything.
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>>572091167
the point of a suppressor in lane is to auto win trades.
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>>572091167
Suppressor is kind of like healbane where in the moment it doesnt feel like its doing anything but if you look back objectively it is doing a lot
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>>572070405
Yeah sounds about right, is it possible to counterspell the dagger and curse? I asume if it works the haze will just stagger them so it doesn't matter anyway.
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>>572070405
*daggers procs my indomitable*
*i immediately use unstoppable and just turn around and kill her*
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bros how fucking slow is leaderboard to update feels like it's been an entire day
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>>572092251
Yeah but you're not counterspelling someone throwing a dagger from invis, especially not if you were farming at the time.. Maybe with indom you'd have enough warning to counterspell the curse after, or hit unstoppable.
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>>572092520
>just buy 12k of greens for this one combo

I think you can dispell+counterspell it, iirc dispell works when the curse is in transit, but if not you can just dispell the dagg
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>>572081770
>gun ivy
tales from the wood bracket
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>>572090205
>>572090619
This is why I turned off voice chat
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>>572091167
suppressor lane/early mystic slow mid/late.
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Last chance to drop predictions, the holy time period starts tomorrow
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>oh man ivy stun is so strong I wonder what we could possibly build to counter it
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>>572095584
We just had the big urn changes update, next major update in 100 days.
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>>572071709
Bebop, Vindicta and Graves. Vindicta in particular has been in the dumpster for the better part of the year at this point, bunch of heroes come and go but she is the only one that is terrible pretty consistently.
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>>572095584
Early-mid September
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>>572095584
I honestly feel like it could be july but I'll say late august-early september since it's valve.
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>>572059465
Goo has little to no impact outside of support.
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>>572097396
No that's absolutely not true. With max splatter, mystic shot + express shot you can blow people up. The problem is this is usually like 50-70% of their HP and you're out of ways to finish them off unless you burn ult and hit it multiple times, or you're jumping them with someone else. But if you just coordinate with your team at all or even just look at your minimap and see who's likely to get ganked or can run at someone near them roaming Viscous is extremely good, and you can still get rescue beam and other actives if you want to function as a support.
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>>572096570
I concur.
I downloaded DotA while waiting for the update, haven't played since April...
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i hate this game but its so fun playing as mina
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I have denial fatigue
I am reminded of L Canceling in melee in which it’s a completely arbitrary mechanic that doesn’t show much skill and is just tedious

Get rid of this shit so we can focus on what matters, fuck the brain rotted sun trainer zoomers
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>>572100340
>sun
Aim
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>>572099318
I'm getting back into Dota, just destroyed a game as SK.
The 'flow' of that game is so much better. I fucking hate what they did with Deadlock, trying to appease retards who can't end a game by artificially speeding up the pace through horrible balance changes.
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>>572100851
I completely agree, I tried going back got absolutely raped since I'm carried by my mechanics and I don't have a decades worth of game knowledge in dota as a lolbab.
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>>572100219
Keep up the good fight, she may be out of meta but she's still as broken as ever.
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>windows update mid match
>scoreboard
>wasn't even the worst number performer because yellow lane had 6k damage each over 33 minutes
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>>572100851
I don't and have never used an aim trainer other than what is available ingame.
t. Zoomoid
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>>572095584
what is this image for ants?
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how do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>572101470
>internet cuts out mid match
>replug my cable
>instantly turns back on no problems
is my cable just dead and I need a new one or is my port fucked somehow
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>>572104161
YWNBAW
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>>572104161
sometimes no matter what people say you yourself can know the truth and it doesn't matter
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>>572104161
"There goes one handsome bastard"
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>every loss is just some fucking retard duo with mixed ranks just swapping into a lane that outranks them and them getting turbo shit on and then the rest of the game is purely performative and completely out of your hands, basically have to pray they fuck up 5 times in a row or something to win but then your retards are feeding just as hard as you're farming and killing so it just remains fucked
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Is it normal to have low player damage as Vindicta? even when I'm doing well I somehow end up with low damage at the end screen.
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>>572104683
Fun fact this occurs at every rank!
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>>572106052
Yeah that's why I didn't bother including the rank. It happens all the way up to eternus 6. There's always an agent. Win or loss. Some team is getting stuck with a retard who will somehow go 2-14 on the tankiest most evasive character imaginable.
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>>572104161
I'd say thats really out of pocket
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Strict solo queue matchmaking would fix this btw
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When is bebop getting a real T5 upgrade to his ult
The useless lifesteal effect has been on it since launch
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>>572106419
What the fuck do you want it to be? It already scales like crazy and rapes people.
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>>572106503
Seekerbro...
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>>572096015
>>572096570
>>572097387
So we're assuming late options. Would explain why we haven't seen any genuine leaks. Any ideas what it is they're working on that's taking so long?

>>572103081
Left pic was in reference to a new game mode or objective, but they probably settled for just urn gameplay changes. The pic might be in reference to the PvE mode that's supposed to be in the works, together with a camp overhaul as seen in the right pic. Keep in mind that leaks have been rather untrustworthy over the past months.
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>>572074782
12 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6unFqraFxTU
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>>572106804
Escalating Exposure exists. I'm not going to be gaslit into thinking your ult needs more scaling.
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Why did the Holliday OP get deleted?
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Can't believe the major update is today bros
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Abrams is getting buffed back into 60% winrate YIPPEE
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>>572089679
can't wait for all mods to get shut down
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>>572107446
tranny janny
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>>572089679
Yeah I think we've got our new OP image if Janny is going to be an tranny about it.
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>>572089679
https://ayakamods.com/mods/paige-in-a-box.2916/
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>>572106975
>Any ideas what it is they're working on that's taking so long
Nothing. You had their annual vacation which was -1 month of development and then they pulled people off Deadlock to get the new Dota update out. It'll be the same size as the previous update
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>>572109230
So then why isn't it out? They also had christmas break during the last wait so it evens out.

PATCH TOMORROW GUYS~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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why doesnt valve just take the holliday remodel and make it default
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What if Holliday hade a fat ass and huge tits?
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>>572106503
Increased turn and/or movespeed
Unstoppable while channeling
Increased movement slow/dash distance effect
Added pushback effect
Penetrates a single object/wall
Severe fire rate slow the as the beam hits you
Added spirit/bullet resist while channeling
Damage increased the lower your HP is

Pick any of these to replace the current t5 and it would fix his dogshit ult. Right now the t5 upgrade is either countered by a single retard with healbane, or the t5 upgrade literally LITERALLY does not do anything if you use it at max hp as a fight opener
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lewd holliday skin NOW
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>>572095739
>not a single one with indomitible
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>>572110040
what if they sold bologna by the liter?
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>>572104161
>respond
to what?
>>572106503
Just having spirit resiliance is enough to shut it out and in this meta you can slap on witchmail on top of it and murder him while eating his beam for lunch.
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Does bebop still get a bombstack if apollo ripostes the bomb?
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>>572109974
Because its shit just like the yamato one
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>>572110916
why
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>50 minute game where we were never losing and never gave up urn but we still had to constantly back up because urn is up and mid will be up in a minute so be careful and then we can steal farm or do sinners and
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>>572110973
Why do they look like garbage? Ask the retard who made them
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>>572111726
guh
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>>572110837
No it has to deal damage, even if the damage is 0 (viscous cube reduces all damage to 0 so it still gives a stack, riposte turns invincible so it negates damage entirely)
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>>572110983
Holy mother of sex sex sex
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>hoodwink announced for deadlock
or
>eos announced for this year
need it or keep it
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>>572112165
Hoodwink will save Deadlock
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>>572110983
>>572111726
Need to combine these
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>>572100851
I tried getting into Dota but there was so much shit it was overwhelming
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Holliday has been pissing me off so I've started to make aisloppa of her getting dicked down
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Im actually getting fucking tired of this game I know blog blah blah blah blah but holy shit its getting annoying
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>>572112858
oh cool, thanks for the e-waste bro.
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>>572112828
I "only" have 1k hours came back and got raped. Deadlock is really simple and kind of shallow compared to dota. Really hoping we get a jungle update sometime "soon".
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Suddenly I think Holliday is balanced, weak even.
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great thread deadtards.
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>>572113703
You dont mean that :(
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Post some tuff warden phonk edits.
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>>572113703
>all the nonplaying secondaries and whiners are gone
>this is a bad thing
here, have some porn
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M1ggers lost.
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>>572110983
Imagine the thick dark bush and black armpit hair
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if there's no update in 2 weeks I'm going to mcfukin' krill myself
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>>572058415
why do jannies hate women with short hair?
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>>572114437
How many weeks after the december dota 2 update did we get the january deadlock update?
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Wtf am i supposed to do against a holiday doorman lane?
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>>572115187
Win
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>>572112858
keep doing the Lords work, fuck Antarctica
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>>572115089
reminds them the male/female aura goes through and nothing they do to appear as a woman will ever make them not give off a male aura to normal people.
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I actually have a great deal of fun playing the actual game but the players I encounter might be on average some of the dumbest retards I have ever seen play a game.

>0/9 Abrams going for his 10th death walking directly into a graves trap once again
>peeping over at what our 0/6/1 Graves is building and seeing 4 yellows 1 green and 1 purple (will not be getting heroic aura or echo shard)
>minute 2 in the game and you watch your billy aggressively chase the quarter hp drifter under their tower, get smacked and then subsequently killed by the drifter (this repeats at least 2 more times)
>Dynamo exclusively ults single targets that were about to be killed anyway
>Vyper not sliding

I really have a hard time believing that some of these people are actually living beings that occupy this world, drive, vote, make day to day decisions then hop on this game and die in the same way 10-15 times without ever questioning "what am I doing wrong?"
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>>572115089
too much melanin
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>>572115505
First Mona?
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>4 insanely close super fun back and forth matches in a row where nobody is abusing S++++++ tier characters
what is this blessed day?
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>>572116039
elo heaven
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>>572115187
Play around the veil
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>>572116154
I think you meant, play behind your gaurdian
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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floppy mina cock
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>>572100851
Agree, it feels like deadlock is starting with turbo mode. Imo they should have a fleshed longer game then worry about giving alternatives for the adhd, im the minority tho I think
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>>572116520
> it feels like deadlock is starting with turbo mode
Wait it might actually be this.
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>>572100851
>>572116520
>>572116706
Don't the majority of Dota players play turbo? Even in League I think the most played mode is the fast one. Why would Deadlock be worse for designing around this?
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>>572117514
Can you imagine a ti finals in turbo mode? I enjoy the faster games dont get me wrong but I think you lose some of the grandiose when you shorten the game
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How would you make a match in Deadlock longer?
Less soul gain?
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>see teamates slowly retreating in mid
>go mid and push in now that we have the advantage
>die really fast
>where are my teamates?
>they ran away or watched me die
4 times it happened in the same game.
Why the fuck do I keep getting cowards for fucking teamates?
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>Indomitable makes the guy you hit with swap stay in place AND all his nearby teammates stay in place BUT it will still put you right where they are standing
epic
truly epic
Wanna guess how I learned that?
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>>572112858
Based and cool, do generate more and post the results
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is there a premade structured approach to learning and getting good at this game instead of banging my head against the wall autopilot queuing? no i won't pay for vod reviews
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>>572117932
Bigger map
Adjust scaling
More objectives
Stronger towers
Longer lane phase, longer mid game

There is a lot of levers to pull. Occasionally we get 60m+ games now and they are grating because its very repetitive after 30m. They could have 15m lane, 30m mid game, 15m lategame for example
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>>572118348
Watch metro and flats
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>>572104161
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>>572115732
sauce
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>>572118428
mina wouldn't fucking say that
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>>572118348

Id reccomend street brawl until movement and fighting is familiar

Then when starting regular id just spam seven and try to learn all the timers for camps/sinners/bridge buffs

Then once you have that down id branch into different heros. You can use guides or teirlists but I just go to the statlocker leaderboard and pick someone good with your hero. Some people will watch the vods but I ain't got time for that, I just look at the items+timeline(statlocker shows when they buy what). There is definitely benefits to watch the vods to see positional and play making stuff tho
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>>572118837
true
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>>572118885
To add to this, both movement and build making can take a long time to learn as there is a lot of nuance that is not clearly explained in game. It requires a certain autism to get through it all so id just take it at your own pace, its not needed until your min maxing
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>>572118348
copy pros/streamers and ask why they're doing something when they do it
or just literally ask them in chat but some may ban you
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>>572117514
It wouldn't be, infact I'm glad they are doing it this way if this is the case.
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Why hasnt the mod that keeps deleting op images roped themselves yet? not enough estrogen doses yet?
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>>572118524
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>>572118837
That's because nobody would call Pocket a him in-universe, not even people who don't know him for some reason.
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>>572118885
Yeah don't do this.
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>>572118885
I don't get how people can struggle with movement. Coming from Apex/TF2 the movement in this game was like second-nature. Hell, when I first started to play I was accused of smurfing because I watched a Leafy video on movement and everything fell into place after that.
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>>572117932
Why would you want the game to take longer?
Do you niggas really want a one hour slog brool?
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this r1 tournament stinks like money laundering
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asia servers are hell man, you people are not ready for indians in your team. motherfucker starts getting a kill after feeding and starts talking shit to the enemy like we are not 15k souls behind and then before ragequitting he had to drop a paragraph about fucking ur mom and shit
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Is this how winrates are supposed to be?
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>>572121580
how many of those were brools
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>>572121697
Zero I don't like that mode.
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>non NA players complaining about shitty queues when they have never played with a quebecan
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>McG player calling people "fake ascendants"
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>>572094825
im e6 actually
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God bless indomitible for letting me deal with cancerous wardens that rush t3 binding and haze with silencer
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>>572122149
m1gger seething about mchonesty kek
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>>572112989
>queue up
>get the state mandated nigger duo
>they force every shitty fight imaginable and go 1-15 and make the entire game not only a 4v6 but also a 4v6 with a 50k deficit and all the hyper scaling carries on the enemy team come online 15 minutes earlier because of these niggers
>lose and have absolutely no fucking fun for 30 minutes
>WOW BRO WHY ARE YOU MAD?
IT'S A MYSTERY
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>>572122334
>Immediately assuming I was playing a m1 character
I was on an actual honest character, Apollo.
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>>572120832
i think the movement in deadlock is too sluggish and unresponsive
tf2's movement responsiveness was perfect for me, this feels a bit too slow
i like the sliding, the dashing, the jumping, but the core wasd movement doesn't feel right
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>>572116401
FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEADCOCK
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>>572122476
Acceleration is just much slower in Deadlock
In TF2 it's almost instant
That's what you're feeling
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>>572122476
does it feel sluggish or is everything just a little delayed?
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>>572122315
>yfw he rushes echo and just casts it again instantly
AAAAAAA
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>>572122680
what the fuck is wrong with her? face.
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>>572122718
yeah, this
i wish it was faster
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>>572122831
that's how women look like
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>>572121045
yea i see a bunch of known streamers yet the stream couldn't even break 500 viewers
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All of the bullet on hit effects should only be applied at a maximum of 1 debuff per bullet. And if you have multiple its chosen randomly from what you have.
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delete gunshit from the game
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delete spiritshit from the game
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delete remshit from the game
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delete vitalityshit from the game
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>Lystic is cute
lol!
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>Emiru deadlock cosplays
>Black pedo starting to learn this game
I don't like the attention this game is getting
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>>572123814
>>Black pedo starting to learn this game
elaborate.
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>>572120376
The real test is when we get Rem/Pocket interactions. Rem is a chud who constantly refers to people in the third person, so he has no reason to refer to Pocket as a they/them. Valve already chickened out by having Rem refer to Pocket as "you" in kill lines, so the true test is when they actually interact. If Rem just "knows" to use Pocket's preferred pronouns, then the game is woke shit.
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>>572104161
>one "male" Asian character
>has to be nonbinary, asexual, a faggot, or a tranny
Asian masculinity in shambles.
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delete furshit from the game
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>>572124119
He's a whiteman's Y chromesome too.
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>>572123898
Lacari
the guy that had links to a questionable "teen" content in his notepad that he leaked on accident
also loves lolis
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>>572124328
he's played for longer as far as I know
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>>572124328
>also loves lolis
ba...
>the guy that had links to a questionable "teen" content in his notepad that he leaked on accident
Oh an actual genuine Pedophile?
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>>572121516
There's Deadlock on Android?
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>>572120838
1 hour is too short, it should be movie length. 1hr 30m minimum with average just past 2 hours. It also needs 3d glasses support so when bebop hooks me i flinch irl
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>>572124459
>Oh an actual genuine Pedophile?
yes, he is back to streaming tho lmao
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add furshit to the game it will unironically save it
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>>572124209
>Pocket is a supreme gentleman

It all makes sense
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>>572124998
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>>572125008
I mean look at that fucking jaw, I know some few asians have it but they're mostly round faced afaik. Shame is gameplay is aids and they are too afraid to drop this nonbinary shit.
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>>572125186
image
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>>572124119
he's a hapa and it's a reference to how elon musk has multiple tranny sons
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>>572104161
there were like 2 scrapped voice lines where "he" slipped up, also shopkeepers calls him son of a bitch
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>>572125564
he/him = son
she/her = daughter
they/them = ???
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Should rescue beam be less likely to get snagged on corners or would it make it too strong?
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>>572124119
>>572124209
>>572125008
>race mixes in the peak years of scientific racism as a WASP
>betrothes his son to a fatassed ABG
What was his end goal? Ricing his bloodline with no survivors?
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>>572125768
just press the space bar
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>>572121580
u must be terminally braindead to loose so much on a hero that has one of the best wr

honnestly because of players like you i stopped playing
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>>572125768
it should go through walls
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>Russoids call GT Babayaga
zased
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graves should look like this
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>>572126221
graves is a flat goddess though
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>>572125803
Its not a goal, its a character flaw. Hes an egomaniac who cant be told no but hes not good enough to do that in his home country. So he goes to some yellow thirdie shithole thats stuck 100 years in the past to cope

There is no plan, this was plan b
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how much iq does mokril take to successfully pilot?
5?
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>>572125987
then why are you even here nigga
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>>572126431

i'm this anon, just checked in to see if anyone answered tome
>>572121045
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>>572125752
sons and daughters
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>>572126394
Ah I see, the assassaination angle makes sense now. Maybe he has a bastard or family member who may inherit instead.
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>>572126536
>no exposed tidy
don't care
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>>572126327
hence why she should look like a tanned cowtitted gyaru
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>>572126751
Just wait for the Ixian vacation skin after she's knocked up by Apollo.
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>>572126419
Depends on what level you are talking about, skill floor is 50iq, skill ceiling is 500 iq
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>>572125803
endgoal was to get new blood into the vampire courts of America, mission outcome successful*
*: pocket didn't die, calico will not be hired again
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is we getting apollo buff
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>>572127019
you already got em big dog, hes fine now
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>>572078026
it does low as fuck damage only way you'd get a kill is if you had stacked escalating and they were already low
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>>572127154
>Mosquito after 12 mins
>Fine now
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which unreleased characters are you most excited for lore wise?
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>>572127315
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>>572122795
yeah that is a problem.
I need a way where I can riposte him all the time.
in lane I bully wardens because they always use binding on apollo despite the fact I can riposte it
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>>572127019
hes already secretly the most broken character in the game right now, if you understand his correct playstyle
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>>572127019
he really needs it
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>>572127486
rank+build? I'd like to play him again.
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>>572127464
If he was ulting you witchmail would give lots of ripostes but yeah.
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>>572079563
>there are people posting in here that dont know what stat investments are
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>>572127486
anecdotes from archon
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>>572127470
Which is what? Early game rape as some form of psychological warfare, so the enemy teams tilts and loses?
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>>572127865
not telling so you dont leak it to reddit and it gets nerfed, i'll use it to reach E6 first
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>>572124459
literally the same thing
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>>572127630
t3 binding silences me to I cant riposte.
Thats what indomtible is for
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>>572128009
Nope
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>>572127604
it's just ritualist, but i climb consistently, it's just the sn1per build
>>572127746
see you soon!
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>>572126751
Every woman should have cowtits.
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Is infernus niggerchud core?
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>>572127315
>fucks with aim
m1ggers will never recover so hes never coming out
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>>572128321
no he's an uncle tom that's literally risking his life to save a bar for his white boss

shiv/rem is more niggerstyle gameplaywise
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For a game that takes place in a 3d environment and requires aiming, there sure is a lot of shit that doesn't require any aiming at all. Why on earth can you just target someone from across the lane and hit them with Knockdown or Curse or Disarm and it's just guaranteed instant? Why don't you have to actually COUNTERPLAY in this fucking game? It's like this game is made for retarded babies who have physical disabilities.
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>>572128321
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>>572126536
It's crazy how much short hair nerfs women
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>>572127284
hes literally 50% wr
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>>572128009
No, infact there's a big difference amongst "Loli's" as well. Some of it is "vaguely childlike" others is "straight up a child" and than there's the "literally a toddler" and "literally a baby" which I am unfortunate enough to know is real.
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>>572116520
Exactly. It's super fucking annoying because they made Street Brawl specifically to appease those kinds of people, but then barely over a month after releasing SB they made that huge March patch that drastically increased the amount of souls you got from objectives.

Then they made it so mass creep waves start spawning later in the game. Ever notice when you defend a push and there's like 50 fucking creeps in the base?
Then they made the level cap from 50k souls to 40k. What a fucking stupid change.

Might just go back and stick to Dota and see if they actually reverted any of this shit down the road. As of now it feels like they threw out the old version of Deadlock for Turbo Deadlock.
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>>572129065
What gets me is that SB was made for dumb niggers that can't macro and just want a braindead mode. Then they got boosted in stacks with friends and come in with e1 ranks shitting up eternus lobbies playing like complete fucking retards. It infuriates me.
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do rem players not realize they can easily win the game by buying echo shard + curse and keeping their tank alive forever instead of buying fucking damage items like the stupid retards they are
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>>572129207
>Then they got boosted in stacks with friends and come in with e1 ranks shitting up eternus lobbies playing like complete fucking retards.
This + boosting is unironicly why I think so many people smurf. I've had more competitive games in Archon than Phantom lobbies for example.
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>>572124459
>Raves for years about loving lolis
>Turns out to be a pedophile

Pattern recognition is what makes us human. Don't be a fucking animal.
Lolicon = pedophile.
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>>572129407
fun fact you stop getting to stack at e1 hence they wind up hardstuck and just get pity EOMM games to stabilise their rank there. after e3 you're only allowed duo. they drop off a fucking cliff. it's not even funny the skill difference between e5/e6 lobbies and e3/e4 lobbies. it's just e6 players shitting on e1s that were boosted there. it's terrible match quality.
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Am I wrong in thinking Zerqqy is a terrible player carried by his aim?
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>>572129403
reminds me of that one retarded rem player in here that thought escalating exposure was stacking from his teammates and they benefitted from it
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>>572129596
>big matchmaking changes happen
>newshitters with 9 games on their account place in phantom 4 for some reason and don't drop out fast enough
>actual phantom players who have been there for 1000 games stomp them and climb to ascendant
>ascendant is now full of aforementioned shitters, AND people who are spiritually still phantom, so the actual ascendant players stomp them and climb to eternus
this ecosystem is present at every rank and it's why the matchmaking feels so shitty for the past few months
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>>572129760
based Remmer
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>>572130012
That shit ruined the game and it was made even worse by the massive influx of newfags.
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>when the person i was flaming the entire game has higher dmg and objective dmg than me in end game screen
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>>572129756
lmao you are not even able to write his name correctly.
Fuck off russhit
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>>572129403
>wasting an active slot on fucking echo shard for rem
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>>572131175
im sorry to hear you're seeker
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>>572129403
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DAMAGE STAT
EVERYONE WILL SEE YOU DID NO DAMAGE
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Debuff resist should affect parry stuns
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>>572129016
Anon....
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I love losing three games in a row because of inters.
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Is drifter OP?
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>>572131175
>healing a tank with 10k ehp to full......twice......is LE BAD ACTUALLY!
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>>572132294
It's always the tank niggers too. I'm convinced these people never learn how to position or take appropriate fights and are used to just shitting on people with terrible map awareness and just automatically winning 1v1s then the second they get into a remotely decent bracket everyones like HEY THIS GUYS OVEREXTENDING GO ON HIM I HAVE DECAY AND HEX and they go 1-13
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>>572132589
tanks in this game should unironically have 1 stam its retarded how they win every 1v1 even if they're down souls AND have shitton of hp AND have the same movement options as everyone else to escape/chase
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>>572125987
I'm beating the average
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>>572132314
Once they release the jungle update and make the map bigger yes
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>>572132774
now remember that shiv gets unlimited dashes with alt fire xd
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>>572129756
You are, yes. He's really good at aiming but on top of that he's really efficient and consistent with map presence. He's not one of the best in the pro circuit when it comes to overall macro, but he's far from being an eido-tier retard
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>>572131030
so you're the nigger teammate i get every 3 matches who does nothing but mumble in a depressed nasally voice while blaming everyone else for his dogshit play
how are you not thrown into low prio mm yet
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I wish more people understood that greens = OP.
I fucking love playing seven and building indom and unstoppable, I'm literally unkillable, as long as I don't position horribly.
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>>572132294
Had to abandon a game right after this one because it put me on a team with a Lash who inted their Victor 17 kills in under 13 minutes. Victor had 25k at the end of lane phase. Where does it keep finding these people?
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>>572134387
it's more like anti-cc is oppressive and lowering the skill ceiling by making positioning and awareness irrelevant. just look at how fun it was to deal with pre-nerf riposte.
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>>572132294
the game doesn't even run on 'eck anymore. not since old gods.
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>>572132794
how are these heroes so high winrate? arent they like C and D tier?
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this spirit meta is lame
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>>572135021
I mean anyone who plays a shooting game with lots of movement is retarded anyway. 'eck yourself.
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Valve should add a fox to deadlock!
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>>572128618
I really wish this game rewarded good aim more so that my 1000 hours in kovaaks wouldn't go to waste
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is objective damage more important that player damage or kills?
I'm getting really good at just nuking objectives.
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>>572135793
Kills and damage literally only matter if they transfer to objectives OR denying creeps/souls
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>>572135103
Seven is good right now. Not great but good at every rank.
Graves shits on pubs in the same way Mcginnis does if Icefrog allows. Takes too much macro to counterplay unless the Graves/Ginnis player is mentally retarded.
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>>572135793
Objective damage is kinda weird, if you're killing walkers or solo taking base objectives then you're contributing a lot to your team but you can easily do 10k+ objective damage in a single base push when the whole enemy team is dead and then it's just kind of granted to you
Very context dependent just like kills and player damage
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>>572136012
I can usually take 1-2 walkers a game solo. Rarely I get 3.
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How to play pocket?
How to use majestic leap?
thank you
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>>572137276
Press all your buttons near people
press majestic leap to get near people
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sad news: /ourguy/ joechuck the epstein diddy blud declares deadlock matchmaking "unplayable" as he falls out of eternus into ascendant
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>>572137428
Isn't the game essentially set to decay for all ranks given the lack of new players over time?
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>>572135103
Tier lists are made by "pro" wannabes who worship their Nightshift idols, do not possess opinions of their own and think comp is in any way similar to the pub clusterfuck 99,99999999% of the populace plays.
Make your own tier list by filtering win rates since the last patch and eyeball-adjusting for pick rates and hero difficulty.
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>>572132794
sorry i'm mentally disabled. I understood the other way around, she should be nerfred regardless
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>>572137428
>as he falls out of eternus into ascendant
maybe if he wasn't clip farming kidnaps like a faggot he wouldn't be there. WOWEE GUYS LOOK AT MY 15% KILL PARTICIPATION AND 27K NETWORTH AT 40 MINUTES I AM SO USEFUL BTW
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>>572135793
The important stat is win rate.
Kills are easily gotten by kill stealing, damage is padded by aoe wars of attrition and objective damage gets invalidated by the final base push where whoever has the most dps gets to top the score even if they didn't take a pixel off a guardian the whole game. Do not worry about any of the stats and just try to win, you'll play better for it.
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>>572137585
He plays an incredibly low impact playstyle for a support and is crying about losing all of his games over it.
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>>572138530
to accentuate my point. he is fucking trash. he will sit there waiting to web one person for 5 minutes into his walker while actual support players roam the map and actually make 5 kills happen in that time.
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>>572138778
sounds like you were RAGEBAITED just like the HIGH ELO STREAMERS that joechuck EPICALLY RAGEBAITS with his POGGERS KIDNAP CART RAGEBAIT VORTEX WEB CURSE CHEAT DEATH KIDNAP DOORMAN BUILD :joy: :joy: :joy: :ok_hand: :100: :100:
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>>572139075
>HIGH ELO STREAMERS
>look inside
>ascendant
:joy: :ok_hand: :100: :100:
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>>572135793
Yes, obj dmg is how you win the game and obj dont heal, every pt of obj dmg gets you closer to the win, kills and player dmg sometimes doesn't matter
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>>572139867
stupid white boy imma fite you heard me? pussy ass cracka
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>>572137428
>climbed because "le epic doorman kidnap maymays xD"
>anyone who climbed to asc/eternus who didn't account buy understand doorman's whole gimmick by now
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will this be an arcana
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>>572140486
>be eternus
>see a doorman trying to set up on mid and be a gay faggot
>tell my team to just completely stop engaging with mid, only receive waves and split push sidelanes
>win
>watch the 0-2-1 doorman with half the networth of the next person pathetically attempt to door us into his fountain
>counterspell
>curse his cheat death
>he dies and ends the game 0-3-1
can only imagine how pleased his team was with him
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>Every single hero is piss easy to play and 90% of the skill cap in deadlock is movement, aim, and macro
>Game drops you several ranked tiers for your first dozen games on a new hero anyway
I can't say it's not fun going on a 10 game 90% wr rape spree when I decide to branch out on my picks, but I don't think it's healthy for the longevity of the game.
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>>572140845
this game is so good but the community is so LGBT+++ that it's a huge turn off. hopefully this changes when it releases...
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ban players who
>play a new hero in ranked without at least 30 street brawl games
>play with friends of highly differing rank
>play bomb bebop
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ban players who
>buy tankbuster
>play knife shiv
>buy titanic mag
>don't use mic
>play graves post-nerfs
>buy magic carpet
>play gun calico
>use "qol" mods
>play talon
>played holliday pre-buff
>play melee sinclair
>buy shard on dynamo
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i'm losing to medium bots
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>>572142161
>>buy titanic mag
I literally only build it on ivy support for applying slowing bullets on chases. It just feels good for that purpose.
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>>572142520
is this your setup?
https://youtu.be/mjcuwfZrGEE?si=UKY9gIgftHUuYBKW
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>>572131720
You are not e6 lil gup hes fine in every rank outside of semi-pro
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Everything about bebop is so easily counterable, hes one of the few true honest no-bullshit deadlock heroes remaining
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>>572139075
>he's bald, brown, AND ascendant
ouch fellas
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God I fucking love life drain geist.
After a scummy vinny tried to get a cheap kill on my afk lane partner, I locked in the whole game and even solo'd their whole team trying to gank me at our doubles.
I even heal teamates to full.
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>>572142909
Anon...
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>>572143785
that's not joe
but still bald
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>>572143785
assendant
fixed that for you
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thoughts on playing paradox for a new player? she's so sexy i cant top thinking about her
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>headshots you for 1000 from 100m away
>lobs barrels at you for 1k each as you desperately try to close the gap
>just as you reach her she bounces away 3 times in a row
I GOT SOMETHING FOR YA
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>>572138778
>loses 4 games in a row
>pisses and shits himself and quits the game
this man has not known true pain. I have lost 8 games in a row before and that didn't stop me.
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>>572144328
1. you are not a new player
2. she has a fishbowl as head
3. she is dressed classy, not sexy
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>>572144574
but she is curvy whjich is sexy
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>>572144441
>100% air control
>can jump pad while hexed
>400 damage barrels post lane 650 damage mid-late game
>she has 5 of these
>they all are extremely easy to land and also each CC you with knock ups
>you can't even double jump over them like with dynamo so you're not even safe in the air
>she also gets to stun you for like 5 seconds and displace you half way down the lane into her team
>she gets to drop barrels on you during all of that time
she's like the new apollo
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>>572144441
i wish holliday would bounce on her pad then slam her coochie into my face killing me
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>>572142675
>tranny voice
>white
>rem
>literally throwing
lmfao
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>>572144574
i have less than 10 games played
that's hot
still hot
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>>572144809
>each jump pad also lets her stun on landing potentially cancelling entire ults and punishing you for using her jump pads
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>>572144441
craziest part is that so many people can't even play her. Every single Holliday in my games today just kept feeding
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>>572145092
people get baited into going gun or have too big of an ego to accept that you should just take the spirit cuck pill and do dumb damage. It's not like crackshot doesn't also do a million with a spirit build
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>>572145092
Just the other day I witnessed a holliday miss 4 barrels in a row on a billy who was 10% HP and like 5 meters away. He wasn't even trying to dodge them. Eternus 6 lobby.
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>holliday ults someone
>starts jumping around wildly and keeps moving away
>almost lets the enemy get away before we all rush them
STAND STILL STAND STILL HOW HARD IS IT TO STAND STILL
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>>572145092
>people who only play meta of the month characters suck
colored me surprise
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>>572145796
>guy gets to 20%
>drop a nuke
>doorman banishes them
>nuke wasted
>guy just sits inside for 6.5s
>his team shows up in time and he gets away
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i hope they keep nerfing silver so less faggots are tempted to play her
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>>572146776
i will be back the moment she's okay again
in the meantime
I'VE GOT SOMETHIN' FOR YA
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why is the op deleted every time I come here?
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>>572147428
some gooner yuritranny insists on putting porn in every OP so it keeps getting deleted
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>>572147428
coomer ops are only allowed if the game is gacha
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>>572142520
i actually won omg
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Every character that lets you actually win the game by yourself is so fucking boring and the second you switch to a hero with even slightly less agency you get 5 of the most retarded faggots stuffed onto your team this game sucks holy fuck
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>>572148008
carried by Seven bot
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>>572148008
>medium bots itemize better than every single player below eternus
Scary
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>>572148697
seven was raping with his ult, the bots wouldn't hide
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>joins a game
>literally does nothing for 40 minutes
>loses
what do doormen mean by this?
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>>572148008
Hey i was the Yamato in this match!
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Will Haze never not be an ult bot?
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>>572149028
Bro I watched le joe chuck all you le do is kidnap people so funni bro xdddd
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>>572149214
YOU WILL BE JUDGED
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>>572141107
My fingers are crossed.
That "community" only became this way when the last batch of characters released. It definitely wasn't always this way.
Its literally the equivalent of an invasive species. Watching this happen to another game I like as we speak.
I can usually "tune out" fanbases I find annoying. But these types are just so loud and so extreme that it still puts a damper on my enjoyment to an extent.
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>>572149363
poor victor
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>>572117514
more people play turbo than unranked, but more people play ranked than turbo
it's not a very good game for casuals
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>>572071709
Abrams
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>>572149806
LOL
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>>572122853
Higher acceleration = people constantly stutter-stepping to throw off the enemy aim
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>>572149806
>le green man of infinite life and stun is.....bad actually!
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>>572149445
it was very much like that ever since it went public. there's just been a huge increase in troon streamers since silver release.
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>>572149945
>>572150085
Seeker-kun...
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>>572149214
Utility/spirit haze focused around dagger is pretty fun
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>>572149945
>>572150085
>Stun people against walls for 0.8 seconds
(on a 30 second cooldown)
>Dollar store Victor pulse
(heals for fuck all)
>But you get some hp back after your shitty wallstun melee combo
(you will get raped after not kill anyone)
>But your ult,, you fly in and stun people and uhh do no damage!
(150+ seconds cooldown btw)
>Just don't build gun or melee on the giant man with a gun, build sp*rit
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GT's snare gives allies a little buff when they walk into it if they're cc'ed. Maybe intitially just if they're slept, then upgraded into more cc.
Thoughts?
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>>572150087
>huge increase since silver's release
I don't think it was like that back the, but even if it was you still agree that it has increased dramatically since the last batch of characters.
I played when the first wave hit /v/ a year and a half or so ago for a short time. I won't comment on how it was then, because I did not stick with the game for very long. I only came back in earnest shortly before the previous batch of characters came out. (Vic, Mina, Drifter, etc). And I from that time up until Old Gods, this was almost never an issue as far as I recall. But once those characters released it exploded.
I like Silver even, its just such a killjoy when these types invade.
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>>572150350
>>572150405
>worse than viktor means... he's the worst in the game!
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hollow GREEEEEEEEEEEN
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>Play Sinclair
>Zero Patron voice lines
>Zero interactions with other characters
>Worst model in the game
>Mid kit
Why Yoshi hates him so much?
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>>572150087
it was graves and skins mods
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>>572150637
>steals seven ult
>dies because enemy seven has lifesteal and ee and sinclair doesnt
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>>572150637
One day he will be cool.
Thats the first Sinclair fanart I've seen in a while that wasn't ugly as sin.
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>>572150502
yes let's give the hero with the most overloaded kit in the game even more goodies for the most broken cc ability in the game
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>>572141107
their presence can be funny though
https://vocaroo.com/15mMzZF2czkk
I dont know if they actually outnumber normal people or are just more vocal inserting themselves into everything so they stand out more
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every single vindicta player is a retarded subhuman and WILL in any loss talk about kd like their kill secures mean a fucking thing
also warden players have room temp iq
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>>572150637
you dont play sinclair
he does have patron lines
true, no interactions with other heroes
worst model is vyper
his kit is extremely good, initiateALLAH
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>>572151740
literally 3 games in a row I spawned into a silence from patrons
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>>572149445
>>572141107
The LGBTQ shit has always been here. It's what happens when you make a Discord - they attract trannies like flies. Now they have a forum to engage with the game and other fans without having to play the game. They'll sit in the Discord chat all day fellating one another while everyone else actually plays the game.
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>>572150661
No pretty sure hes right that it was largely Silver, sadly.
But I don't care if it was Silver, Graves, or fucking Bebop. They are just insufferable.
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>>572152136
It wasn't. Not to this degree.
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>>572152406
You know what I went back to check on earlier Yoshi posts and you're right. I just remembered wrong. There are still some occasional instances the tranny flag pops up in older posts but once Old Gods hit it's basically in every update sometimes hitting 1k+.
You're right.
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game is too hard for me. dont have impact with damage dealers, die too much with tanky character
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>>572153206
Play Rem.
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This game is such a fucking team comp lottery ever since the urn changes
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>>572152136
you can't access the discord without having access to the game.
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>>572153735
why is it impossible for yoshi to figure out a good mid game?
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>>572153735
>ever since the urn changes
more like ever since the item update
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>>572154123
You're so naive it's cute.
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>>572077460
I'm late to this, it's because she has no room for error but also no room for skill expression. She's like Victor, just a massive stat check that can't really be fucked up in execution but can't compensate when behind through pure skill. Conversely, her kit is really disruptive and knowledge checks the enemy a lot. You have to pay attention to her wall, you have to know how to efficiently clear her skulls, you have to know how to play around the "stand under my ult and bait parries" strat. She feels like an easy noob character (and she is) but she makes YOU work hard to counter her which pisses people off.

She's also really really good at area control with echo shard wall, even when she's weak this remains a consistent high tier strength she has, eg midboss contest. So when the meta is heavily centered around area control (aka the melee urn and now to a lesser extent the koth urn) she's a lot stronger.
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>>572154251
more like ever since 3 lanes
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>>572155235
more like ever since it stopped being neon prime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqJsU0iN_UI
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>>572154917
th-thanks... y-you too...
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>>572155814
>tutorial
>1 minute of inferno running and jumping around implying a player wouldn't know how to do that
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>>572155814
Dude how can it take this fucking long for them to update Bebop Yamato and Kelvins models
Fuck it change Shiv again too he looks like a faggot
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delete lashshit from the game
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>>572156989
delete anonshit from the game
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>>572152887
Thanks for at least checking and confirming.
Its rough.
Hoping full release course corrects.
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finally made it to oracle W
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>>572157536
nice job on making it to the top 60% of players lil gup
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delete tankshit from the game
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I threw my deadlock match because my girlfriend wouldnt get off my dick
Maybe this is why the elite are always solo
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>>572156824
Kelvin to me has always looked good. I do not see what it needs a rework.Same goes for Bebop.

Viscous, Vyper, Sinclair are the only ones that need remodels or major work done.
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>>572159019
Yamato???
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>>572159073
You're right I forgot her.
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>>572150637
He's heavily neglected but has the most fun kit in the game unfortunately.
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>>572150357
the issue around playing a support haze is that the game's matchmaking literally considers you a carry and puts you in a team for that purpose and by not playing carry you're essentially fucking your team over comp wise
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>>572159762
wtf yoshi why did you delete that
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>It's another thrilling game of "the enemy team got Victor and Abrams" so we don't get to play because frontliners are overtuned as fuck
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Six games in a row now where I've lost immediately due to inters and teamcomp. Game looks at the teams and goes "Yep, it's fine that one team has Victor, Wraith, Kelvin, Infernus, Seven and McGinnis while the other team has Paige, Rem, Graves, Dynamo, Geist and Sinclair, nothing at all wrong with that teamcomp."
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>>572151472
well this doesn't have to come without nerfs
retard
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>>572159880
stop noticing
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who is the retard running this acc?
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>>572159880
many such cases
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>>572160387
me
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>>572160319
concession accepted
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>>572150502
I think you should have your fingers broken and your airway collapsed so you don't communicate such awful ideas again
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>>572160387
>"secret" page is a link on a public website
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>>572160387
you can't even pretend to be this stupid
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>archmother
>lose
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>people thought the patch would be today
>even within this month or two
kek
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>>572160387
>Reviewing the page
?????????????????
What? How fucking stupid can you be?
Some fucker just used the older templates and punched them into an AI.
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>>572160387
pve bros
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>>572162001
>can't be killed by spirit damage
>game gives him the best gun defense items in the game
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>>572162001
add enhanced and legendary items to the main mode if the games goes on too long
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>>572162319
Imagine at 30 minutes a map event starts and the winning team gets a single legendary item
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>>572162620
hell yeah city trial time
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>>572162319
>playing against viper with electric slippers in an actual match
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>>572162763
I hope you mean the first team to complete a lap
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Ok, but why don't they just turn the urn into Quidditch/soccer/football/Rugby? Isn't that a pretty obvious change that would make it better
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I uninstalled, games are such low quality it's unreal. And I'm phantom! I wonder how bad it is in shitlow. Actually just a waste of time
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>>572162901
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>>572163609
Shitlow is fine. You don't always win but you can easily carry and have fun with goofy builds.
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>>572163609
I just lost 10 in a row and went from Emissary 2 to Arcanist 1 because it kept giving me either 5 supports vs. 5 carries or inters.
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>>572160304
I had one game today as well where the matchmaker insisted Dynamo will be our entire frontline
It was very painful
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>>572164073
This is why I'm most excited for a separation of ranked and normal modes.
I like sweatin and climbin, but sometimes I want to just try out something weird and not be confined to she chaotic clusterfuck that is street brawl.
I've always hated ARAM modes
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>>572164496
This is why smurfs are so common. People smurf and treat it like unranked.
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all parries are cheats
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>>572164256
Loss streaks are such fucking elo rape in this game. It keeps dropping and dropping the match rank but it still averages the team with your elo in mind so you're always the one with theoretically worse teammates.
You pretty much have to switch to a 3 carries roster the moment you hit like 3 losses to do damage control or it's a coin toss when you get out.
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>>572163609
phantom is shitlow lil bro...
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>>572159880
>half of games are literally just decided by who has better smurfs
YoSHIT fix this already
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Why is Mina a fashion designer she dresses like shit?
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the crashout from troons and third worlders about the super cosplay is hilarious.
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>>572166295
I want to fuck super in his cosplay.
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>>572162001
It's not a serious mode. I wish they actually made a 3v3 or 4v4 MOBA map.
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>Won 5 games today
>Lost 3
>down a rank
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>>572163609
you are shitlow dipshit
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>>572166295
>>572166432
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>>572165421
>>572166704
top 5% is shitlow only to complete tards, nobody cares you spend 2000 more games than me to get to eternus
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>3 teamates are in our jungle farming next to blue walker being actively attacked
>ask them why they were in jungle instead of defending walker
>"hey can you report our geist, all they've been doing is bitching"
This is why I dont partake in comms.
Whats the fucking point?
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>>572166980
everything below eturnus VII is shitlow
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>>572166980
top 5% of currently playing means you're better than 40,000 people, and I'm being real charitable and counting 80% of the current playerbase as non-street brawlers but you might be top 5% of like 3000 people. the whole game is shitlow rn.
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>>572167192
>concurrent players is total playerbase
not that it matters, top 5% of anything is really good
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>>572166980
i dont even have 2000 games TOTAL cope harder
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>>572167561
no, its exactly where the skill curve starts to manifest. 95th percentile is the base camp at the foot of Mt. Good At It
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>>572167671
nobody cares nigga, game sucks, you are slightly better at a game that sucks congrats
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you should give a fuck about whatever "you must be this tall to ride" thing people put on you but when you're in phantom and start talking about Shitlow you're kind of asking for it
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>>572167926
phantom is like disabled people elo vro im sorry for your disabilities
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>le one hour slurper
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>>572167561
everything under top 10% is
>takes 2 seconds to notice they're getting shot
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>>572160387
LMAO great bait honestly
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people quitting this game crying about their rank before the game is even released im dead
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Hybrid Apollo build and process

Cross referenced the top 10 apollos from the leaderboards, eu and na(20 total). Filtered duo color idiots(-14, 6 remaining)

Compared builds from their most recent game for confluence*:
>gun
Opening rounds x3
Melee charge x3
Spirit shredder bullets x3
Mystic shot x3
Hunters aura x2
Stalker ×2
>vit
Healbane x4
Superior stamina x3
Enduring speed x2
Dispell x2
Regen x2
>spirit
Boundless x3
Spirit strike x3
Duration(riposte) x2
Compress cooldown(riposte) x2
Torment Pulse x2

*single instances excluded

Constructing the build
Specification requirements and limits:
8k in each category
10 items total

The gun items from the confluence comp are cheaper so will need to run more to hit spec

>opening rounds
>melee charge
>mystic shot
>hunters aura

Vit is pretty straightforward, first two mandatory, dispell chosen because slot limit

>healbane
>superior stam
>dispell

For spirit Boundless is skipped(still good for late) due to incongruency with the investment threshold spec. Duration chosen over cdr because it affects multiple things

>spirit snatch
>torment pulse
>duration(riposte)

10 items, 24k total

Flex slots left open, reccomend boundless+ counter item
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>>572168560
why
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Mo&Krill is fun.
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>>572168725
Had a feeling hybrid apollo was better, went looking for evidence, got inspired to make a build using said evidence
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>>572168914
>Mo&Krill is fun.
Diddy blud israel epstein disciple pedophile!!!!! do you know Netanyahu?
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>>572169179
when will you test your hypothesis so i can peer review the results
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thank you, icefr*g
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>>572169205
loser.
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>>572169978
happens a lot if you're really fast on clicking to cast cube after pressing 2 its fucked
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>>572169297
Probably not for a while, nowadays I dont have much time
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I miss old urn
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>>572168560
this is way too much to read, but if you're relying on melee charge to reach your 4.8k weapon invest that seems bad for a hybrid build, are you maxing parry first?
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>>572170228
Viscous is a bit fucked because someone thought that the ideal button for fast rolling as ball was M1. Genuinely a mongoloid keybind decision. I think you can't rebind it in the settings either.
Very funky controls.
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>>572169514
Retard.
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>>572086825
>>572084598
Sinclair is a great pick regardless of the enemy comp, though.

>>572160387
... it's obviously a satire account...
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HOW MANY GAMES DO I HAVE TO FUCKING WIN TO SKIP RANKS AND STOP RANKING UP 1 WIN AT A TIME
I DONT GET IT
GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF ORACLE, HALF OF THESE WERE IN ORACLE CAUSE IM FUCKING ORACLE 4 RIGHT NOW
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>572169205
Point out on the dead Rem-rat, where the mole touched you.
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>>572170682
Yes I see what you are saying, i was going 1 into sigil then max parry. I should probably go opening>hunters and pick up charge when I get the max parry
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>Oracle 4
>Archon 3
>Oracle 2
>Archon 1
>Oracle 3
>Archon 3
This is annoying.
Only streaks in either direction. Never just one or two.
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>>572170796
actually cringe
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>>572170360
dang
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>>572170682
Checked some of the time stamps and it seems some pick it up pretty early, maybe its for jungling
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Kill yoshi
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>>572171428
How much was the aimbot
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>>572173727
open 4.8 can one-shot a deadlock soft aimbot for you, so free
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>>572173720
if the enemy team has either of the following, you should be exempt from punishment for alt + f4ing
>rem + victor
>rem + billy
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>>572171428
did you photo shop this? the dates are out of order lmao
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>drifter gets on mic
>russian (obviously)
>spews about 3000 words of russian that literally no one in the lobby understands
>dies
>leaves
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>>572171428
>>572174159
you can see the red borders on the matches that are out of order
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>>572160387
Honestly, I rather have fake leaks then nothing at this point, at least fake leaks show people still give a shit (most dont, dead game)
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uhh how come nobody told me there's a new scourge visual?
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>>572174337
Valve doesnt have the hard working attitude to deliver a game like this to modern audiences, they are in for a rude awakening. WAYYYYYYY too slow of updates to keep zoomers interested
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>>572174373
scorn*
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>>572174482
cs2 is doing great though
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Hoodwink will save this game
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>>572174705
that is not a live service game it's been nearly the exact same game for 30 years
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>Another lose and unloseable game because your team is uncoordinated as fuck and you dont wanna play daycare leader award
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welp, 12 win streak was bound to come to an end honestly.
Paradox fed lane even though I TOLD them multiple times to fall back to base then said "nobody wanted to be risky" meanwhile Vyper was fed as and couldnt be contested because nobody focused them.
Billy also gave like 5 free kills because he was up their ass for no reason in mid game.
I think im more mad that I got deranked from Phantom 1 to Oracle 6 despite having a streak... this ranked system is hot ass and I'd prefer casual instead
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>>572174482
Good thing it's in closed beta, huh?
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>>572174334
>>572174159
I thought it would be funny and didnt pay attention to the dates lmao
heres the actual streak I went on

>>572173727
0 cause I suck ass at vindicta but shes the most fun person in the roster for me to play. I love playing TF2 sniper so I love her ulti.
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>>572174735
Imagine if they made another character and used her VA for it.
It'd be fucking over.
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>Playin Wraith
>Cant get a side lane.
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Why is winning in this game so fucking hard? Probably the best game I have had on Abrams and this happens.
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>>572177453
Have you done a VOD review?
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>>572177453
>8/6
>best game ive had
grim
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I keep having games where we have 0 flex slots at 35 minutes and I'm starting to wonder if I should just start playing perma lane push. Is this a bad idea since I'll be dying way more on average?
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>>572177453
cause yure in retard mmr and playing a character that doesnt do much dps OR obj damage.
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>>572177568
No, I wouldn't know what to look for
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well?
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>>572122680
>isn't carrying hentai mangas
not real paige
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>>572178083
1, buff the dommy mommy
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>>572178083
1 always no matter the question
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Just spent 55 minutes of my life slogging away against an obvious discord stacked team, one of which was a MELEE VINDICTA just to complete the disrespect.
Our fed holliday ended up leaving at the 50 minute mark or so and I still dont know how the fuck we came out of that with a win.
My guess is the scaling
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Is healing Geist as Rem inting?
I just realized I maybe should not have been healing our Geist so much so she can do her ult thing.
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lady geist is the most honest character in the game
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>>572178792
No, half the value of Geist's ult is the mental pressure it puts on people thinking they might get swapped or that they can't kill her because she has a second HP bar waiting.
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>>572174735
this squirrel is a whore
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Are there custom maps? or really just a training area with more options?

I want to practice my counterspell timing for knockdown because I keep fucking it up.
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>>572178083
1. She's a frontliner who can't frontline as well as Abrams, Victor, Geist, Warden, or really any other tank because she has no in-built damage mitigation and is too easy to shut down. She's not a carry because she doesn't scale, and she's not a spirit nuker because every other spirit nuker outscales her. She doesn't really fit with the rest of the game and probably needs to either be reworked into a nuker or reworked into a carry.
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Mirage, Silver and Holliday are throw picks
I have NEVER seen a single one of them actually do good, but always do bad.
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>>572179497
And YES before you ask I AM in Initiate
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>8 game winstreak
>get 2 games that are so abysmal that I genuinely dont understand how people got into this rank because it means they've had to play and won like 30 games in a row to even get here
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>>572179497
And I'm trans BTW.
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>>572179598
actually im Arcanist 3
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>>572178413
Kino
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>>572179497
>Holliday
Probably the biggest low elo self-report desu
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>metro just smurfs 24/7 now and he wins most of his games and is happy instead of constantly raging
this sucks
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>>572179909
>silver almost reaches C tier in eturnus
she's S tier though no need to explain why its obvious you know
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>>572179913
Ive seen so many smurf accounts lately
Seems like everyone is doing it
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>>572180060
You could observe the same sharp incline at Eternus in every single patch including ones where she did actually go up to S tier at Eternus but you shitlow fags were saying the same shit back then lol
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>>572179421
Who is a better nuker? Holliday?
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>>572180204
i honest to god do not care about elo or ranked
if you care this much i think your a retarded faggot who stresses out about retarded things.
you keep biting your nails and getting mad at feeders, and i'll keep having fun and trying to win 1v6's for clips
:)
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>>572180204
She was never good in eturnus, just buy counter items
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i care
about
THE DJINNNN
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>>572179909
Honestly I'm seeker and she is already miserable to play against.
I can't imagine the higher ranks
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>>572180320
>I do not care but I care enough to look at statistics showing winrate at certain ranks and reference things people previously said on a basket weaving forum
This larp is even worse than the guy who claimed he doesn't care about rank and he wants it removed so he doesn't get mad when his teammates do badly
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>>572180485
stay mad you retarded faggot
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"i dont care about rank" (i actually care too much) exhibit #762
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>>572180659
retarded faggot say what?
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>>572180571
I accept your (shitlow) concession
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>>572180659
They don't even do a good job of pretending
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>>572180794
>>572180881
dont you have some more games to lose and then get mad at bro?
im still having fun cause this game is fun.
you can post about whatever eternus meta you want and this does not effect me in the slightest but it obviously effects you because your giving me infinite (You)'s and even not (You)ing me because your so mad lmao
i'll keep building spirit billy while you seethe and post graphs that mean nothing
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>>572180447
>Mamdani
lmao
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>I'll keep abusing an S tier hero and building around his strongest ability
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>warden fights like a man possessed
possessed by racism
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i am legitimately seeker
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>>572114378
I'm not a pedophile.
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Holliday is supposed to be strong early, right? But I feel pretty weak in lane but really strong in midgame team fights.
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>>572181448
holliday is weak as fuck
no graph will fix this
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>>572110983
Damn this is really cute.
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ive figured out why ranked feels like forced 50 or EOMM matchmaking half the time.
cause this game randomly pairs teams but doesnt give a fuck about team comps, so you'll get like 4 DPS, 1 tank, 1 support and just fucking lose because your team is too squishy and there is NO way to counter this because they took away rooftop pregame
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>Play Silver
>Job
>Win
>Play against Silver
>Job
>Win because they don't build to job
It has become abundantly clear that Silver's playerbase doesn't want to play her the way Yoshi has balanced her
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>>572181801
>play silver
your first mistake
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>>572181679
draft will save this game
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>>572181448
Your lane is ok to good depending on how well you can hit barrels/how bad the enemy is at avoiding them then you spike once you have max barrel and rapid recharge.
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>>572182075
it unironically will.
that or just give us the ability to pick characters IN the fucking lobby like every other moba does.
The fact that its a dice roll on getting an actually good comp or not is retarded.
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>>572182124
why do they refuse to add it though
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half the playerbase gone in 3 months. if you've maintained your rank, you've actually improved in skill since ranks are % based
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>>572182314
because they think it gives them more data but all it does is frustrate the SHIT out of the playerbase. Both the casual ones AND the ones who are actively trying to get better
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>>572182075
>nigga thinks WW3 will help the game
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>>572182457
it sure as shit aint helping the game right now and is actively strangling it
forcing ranked is the worst of both worlds
casuals dont give a fuck
and ranked players give TOO much of a fuck
mix them both together and now both sides hate eachother and both sides are forced to intermingle
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>>572182674
>forcing ranked is the worst of both worlds
It really is a strange decision considering every other MOBA has a casual and ranked mode clearly separated from one another. I guess the idea was that you would always play with people around your skill level? No idea what the idea here was.
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>>572180447
geeeeg
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>>572179421
she scales
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>>572182836
the idea is that Yoshi wants to see graphs and results on how games and characters are being played because Valve is OBSESSED with optimization.
Ranked is the best way to achieve this cause now every rank you can see whos building/playing what and who needs to get buffed/nerfed.
thats it, he's retarded and knows that only like 5% of the playerbase would play ranked and casual doesnt give enough good valuable data to balance off of.
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>>572182836
The idea was "the population is too low to support 2 separate queues for the same mode so just make it all ranked", there's no mystery there.
Every """unranked""" mode in mobas still uses a hidden rank for matchmaking purposes anyway so there's not a whole lot of practical difference.
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>>572183117
hidden rank is just MMR/ELO range which is a lot more forgiving than ranked modes. Which means you unironically get more balanced teams than ranked modes because the range you get is so massive.

Casual: MMR 1000-3500 range
Ranked: MMR 1-100 range

The entire point is that ranked is more "inside" your own personal skill level, where as casual doesnt give a fuck and will match good people wtih bad people which makes the teams more balanced ironically enough
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>>572182416
People saw that the devs have no idea how to balance as they repeatedly nerfed a mediocre at best hero
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they should pivot away from elo and try something new
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>>572183461
Yeah the Viscous nerfs were massively unpopular
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>>572183508
what they should fucking do is add scoreboard MMR as well.
and to the dude who says, "w-well it wont work!" just fucking make it so if you have "MOST X ON TEAM" you get like an extra 100 per OBJ on the scoreboard.

Like most kills + assists = 200 extra ontop of your MMR.
This will literally make people fight over objectives and shit that matters trying to get "MOST X DAMAGE" in the game which is great and is literally a win/win.
Even if you lose it turns a 1000 MMR loss to a 900 one which softens the blow.
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>reached alchemist 1
ladies and gents
we all know what this means.
How big is the loss streak going to be?
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Whenever I play Billy I have this on max on my subwoofer.
It makes games WAY better and locks me in more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuZ-Wkw9ElI
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>>572183821
just copy apex legend's rank calculation
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>>572184019
8 games.
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>>572183821
I want a cool cutoff rank for the top 500 like league has
>>572184019
4 insta losses!
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>>572184019
>alchemist 1
good job bro!
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>celeste backseating our geist all game
>constantly talking non-stop
>thinking out loud
>"hmm maybe I should go for bigger radius... or maybe cooldown"
>"hmm i wonder what this does"
>uses ult on a tower
>"oh thats my ult"
it really is tiring
we lose this game of course
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>>572184078
oooor just do what ever game ever has started doing and SHOW US HOW MUCH IT TAKES TO GET TO A RANK AND HOW MUCH WE GAIN/LOSE. GOING ON A WINNING STREAK AND LOSING THEN DERANKING ONCE IS ASININE BULLSHIT YOSHI
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>>572184320
marvel rivals does this and its just dps players stat padding. HOWEVER if they do this based on objective damage instead of player damage i can see it potentially being better than what we have now
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>>572184751
that uh... that isnt what I said at all?
how is showing MMR loss/gains stat padding if its based on wins/losses?
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Why should I ever stop building pillow nuke Rem?
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Drifter is so cool.
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>>572182416
I've maintained my rank with a 50% winrate but I've only played like 30 games in the past month.
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You should have to last hit creeps to get souls. Why do they just auto drop and you get them?
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this draft is a sin of the matchmaker
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>>572177568
My ego can only be crushed so much.
>>572177747
I mean damage wise on Abrams usually it's way lower. I can play ROFLstomp easy characters like Seven but I am trying to move away from AFK m1 characters cause it's just so boring and feels like I am crutching. Seems like I am right cause I lose on honest characters and win on unfair ones.
>>572177821
Maybe you are right. I gotta push OBJs all game cause when I play the tank I get m1ers that just don't push or farm well.
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>>572072708
>Mina and Venator
Venator is possibly one of the best characters in the game currently and Mina is fucked by the constant burgerbox of urn fights, but that character is still busted.
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>>572185606
it used to be that way and it made everything way slower paced
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unironically make denies that you have to charge melee the enemy minion.
As im climbing, games where the faggots in my lane have 0.001 ms lag and I have like 250 ms lag is insane.
They get ALL the denies before I can even fucking capture my souls and its infuriating and makes the laning phase no fun anymore
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>>572186667
lane phase dont matter
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>>572178413
>LS kevlar melee vin
Based, give me match id anon.
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>>572186301
Yep, if youre playing tank you just really gotta carry every team fight and also shotcall (tell team to do boss or push walkers after getting some kills)

It's definitely possible to get out of shit tier mmr but just way simpler if youre a carry hero because you arent relying on herding cats to end the game, you do that yourself.
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>>572186794
none of dis mattahs...
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>>572186828
My fear is crutching on easy heroes I won't be trained up enough or skilled enough to play others. Not like Abrams is terribly hard but there is a lot of subtly to him. Seven it's literally just farm and press 4.

For my sanity now at least. I will play some m1s so I can actually feel good and get some wins. (Hopefully)
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Im using a mod for bebop
Am I cheating?
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>>572187034
yes seven is retard mode and anyone who plays it is boosted, but you might as well rank up to at least around archon then play real heros
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Imagine a world where GT gets the Graves treatment
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I don't wanna be eternus anymore i wanna stomp ascendant lobbies again with troll builds but smurfing is evil...
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>>572188339
just play your troll builds and you'll tank your rating.
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>>572188320
You mean a 40% damage nerf to his 1 and a 15% damage nerf to his 2 and ult, and also his arrows charge slower, and also the duration of his 3 is shortened, and also his gun damage + scaling is nerfed 10%? That'd be pretty rough if that happened. Can you imagine? Crazy thing to think about, all of those nerfs hitting one character in the span of 3 patches. Wow.
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Every game feels like the only deciding factor is if you get the 23-1 m1gger on your team or not. Wtf is this?
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I don't understand the point of jumpstart, it damages you more than it heals you?
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>>572188627
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>>572178083
When I see Geist on my team I lock in because we're basically playing 5v6.
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>>572188676
The damage is a percentage of your current HP while the healing is a flat amount that scales with spirit, so when your HP is low enough or your spirit is high enough it ends up positive.
It also charges your pain battery and gives movespeed.
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>>572187507
All. Mods. Are. Cheats!
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Got my kigu, got my chocolate chip cookies, got my pillow, got my blankie, got my gin and ginger ale float
Yeah, it's Deadlock time
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>>572179421
>>572178083
I cant believe you shitters think geist is bad. She's a hybrid carry that cant easily be focused down because she can self heal and also swap hp. She's pretty strong if the enemy doesnt have perfect CC usage you will get big value every fight.

Full spirit geists are retarded a though
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>>572188660
why not just become that deciding factor then
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>>572189882
my aim is bad and m1ggers are boring to play
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>>572190057
i am begging you guys to play 10-15 minutes of kovaaks a day
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>>572188586
idk about that i have been losing a lot still at e5
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>>572190525
>aim trainer
go back to cs
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>>572189574
Time to solo queue support but end up playing lane janny
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how come this general never has a pic in the OP?
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>>572190751
cs players are retards who think 3 hours of deathmatch is an effective use of their time
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>>572190816
>solo queue support
How do i enjoy support in this game? Healing is tiny, and all the support items just make me feel like a shitty utility belt.
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>>572187678
He sure is, at least I feel better about myself now. Thank you for the advice.
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>>572190901
>retards who think 3 hours of deathmatch is an effective use of their time
so 3/4s of all deadlock games?
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>>572190850
There is either a mod or janitor that is regularly in these threads with us.
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>>572190976
All the good supports either have non-tiny healing or abilities that make the game fucking miserable for the enemy.
Funny as fuck counter engaging on some dude as paige with knockdown into root into dragon+alchfire.
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Surely the janny won't delete this :^)
>>572191252
>>572191252
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>>572187507
Is it hook assist QoL? It's not cheating because it just shows you where to aim.
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>>572189882
cause playing a hero game just to hold m1 is boring
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>>572190976
You WILL be a shitty utility belt and you WILL like it
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>>572191113
No problem buddy, and now once you are used to seven you will be even better at making your future carries succeed by setting them up for success in fights and with ganks and shit

It gets easier to win with abrams and other initiators the higher rank you go because people will actually follow up with you
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>>572190976
You play like normal but your focus is less on killing and more on healing and utility.
For example, as Rem I get a bonus to my active item effectiveness while tagged along so I pick items that provide a bit of everything I want in team fights.
grit/ward/barrier as deadlock's "power word: shield"
cold front/arctic blast for aoe burst and/slow
Alchemist flask for a wide aoe area denial
And Echo shard on Tag along for twice the healing.
Believe me you'll wish you could have 5+ active slots instead of 4 when you're not focused on DPS rotation
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>>572177954
This isn't true, your flaws are exceptionally apparent after the fact.
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>>572185256
because healbot Rem is OP
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>>572186451
Yeah and they have low winrates. And Graves has a high winrate everywhere but Eternus despite being a dogshit character.
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>>572191797
What did she mean by that?



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