>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>572058415
MOOOOOOOOOODS
>>572190976i tried out this dynamo support build with rescue beam and healing tempo + divine barrier and it got me like 100k healing in a match but i do fuck all damage
Sex with Venator
I can see it.
Silver needs buffs
Love how this game turns into a fucking slideshow for no reason at the drop of a hat.
>>572191252I don't wanna be eternus anymore i wanna stomp ascendant lobbies again with troll builds but smurfing is evil i am losing a lot but still haven't ranked down from e5
>>572191371no its this skinhttps://youtu.be/ufKVVHlrdBA?si=ydsqfY00s2MbbAGF
Got my kigu, got my chocolate chip cookies, got my pillow, got my blankie, got my gin and ginger ale float with whip creamYeah, it's Deadlock time
aimbot and esp are qol mods
>>572192115You wanna queue with me bro? I'm seeker 5 you will get some easy lobbies for sure
>>572192419There needs to be more aimbot heroes like graves. Aimgers and movement trannies need to be punished
>>572192604>we should bring everything down to the least common denominator Why are you like this
>>572192720It's a moba not an aimge
>op image still intactthe power of big blue cock...
>>572192853there are a million other mobas you can play
>>572192402*blows a raspberry in his tummy*
EGO SUM IRA DOMINI
what the fuck do these people do all game???
>>572192853It's a third person shooter with moba elements
>>572192985You have Silver on your team how did you lose?
gunshit ruined deadlock
>>572192985kek classic throw dynamo
So many builds telling to rush boundless spirit on so many heroes.Surely many other tier 3 spirit items have to be worth more than an item that just gives a shitton of spirit and nothing else.
>>572193734https://deadlock.wiki/Tankbuster
>>572193734>dozens of items have spirit scaling>many characters have spirit scaling on all their abilities>the item with the biggest boost to spirit scaling in the entire game is bad because... it just is!
spiritshit ruined deadlock
>>572192910And I do play them instead cause deadlock sucks ass
>>572194369ok good, go play them, dont play this one and cry to remove everything that separates it from the others
>>572194432Yep your 50k playerbase that consistently dies is signs of a really good healthy game. Nobody is autistic enough to practice the moba elements on top of the aiming on top of the movement tranny techniques, get real. There needs to be more casual heroes or not a single normal person is going to play this shit
>572194602I don't give a shit go back to league or whatever
>team crying over voice before we even land in lane because matchmaking put an oracle in our lobby
>>572194850The average oracle is a retard that is somehow worse than alchemists half the time but lucked into a high placement
>>572194971hence the crying
>>572194971yes but it's not their fault matchmaking is ass and flaming them minute 0 is just guaranteeing a loss
>>572195145yep but I understand the seething, it's gonna be a bad game almost guaranteed
>>572192985haha that was me sorry bro I was testing a new build gg gl in your next one I gotta get back to my kids now peace
it's over...
>>572192985From my experience the worst players are always on billy and silver. Massive deaths but managing to not do any damage before they die either..... It's almost interesting enough to look at the replay to see what they're doing
>>572191557Calm down Mina!
>>572194850>qol modsinstant report for cheating.
>>572195452Secondarybait characters get the worst players, naturally. That includes all the furries and cute girls. Billy and Silver require a modicum of strategy and comprehension so they're even worse in the hands of their fans than "fire and forget" secondarybait like Paige, Rem and Celeste.
>572194602back to overwatch with you
>doing a victory lap urn>melee celeste tries to punch me>parry and watch her melt to the venator who just turned the corner>types this in the last few secondsCOPE
>shitlow>ban haze>haze still on the enemy team every single game>team never buys metal skin or any counter items>haze gets fed immediately and outscales the lobby>lose every gamesick of this nigger shit
>>572197616This but it's Silver and half the time xhe's on my team and plays like a /dlg/ silverposter (we lose horribly and xhe probably ragequits in the first five minutes)
sex with geist
>>572197756There are literally 0 good Silver players this patch, the hero is that weak
>>572197775Careful Rem!
i like watching women play rem on twtich and they say my name when i donate money :)
>>572197896You say that every patch, /dlg/. Even on release day!
At this point i just want the big update but its definetly still a ways away. I mean i guess a balance patch would be interesting but i don't even know what i would want changed. Nerf Holiday a bit i guess? Game is in a weird spot.
big update will make the game worse. tons of new unbalanced shit into a game thats already unbalanced as fuck
>>572198113meta is just terrible right now. first 20 minutes mean nothing, and losing 3 team fights after 20 minutes means you lose the game.
doorman tip: never join a teamfight so can you get that epic 1v5 doorman midboss steal clip for tiktok
Why does Viktor have tumblr-nose?
>>572198260you say that every update
>>572198054She was trash on release
Oracle 3 btw.
>"people" still play this
>>572194246why did you just link him the worst item in the game?
>>572198891what is that slop you're posting?
>>572198950thats the joke
>>572198891oops, meant to post this in /mrg/
>Lassos you and sits on your face.
>>572199162>*farts in your lane*
>>572197616just play mo and krill and hide nearby a teammate and ult her when she does it, it will take her a long time to get unstop+curse
>>572198891yes some people still play marvel rivals, but there mostly Chinese and bots, games dead for anyone else.
>>572202071you do realize that deadlock is played almost exclusively by white trannies right
>>572202223Why are there so many now it's like a pandemic
>>572202953They invest popular things like a plague.They genuinely want to "claim" media as their own. Its insufferable.That said, after the big influx that came with the last character wave, I think a lot of them have fell back out of the game that they didn't really play to begin with. Haven't had games with many lately, where as around that time, it was noticable.Also they are autistic men, so they are into things autistic men like, unfortunately.
>>572191252Is-is that... CLEAVAGE?!?! GET DOWN ADVERTISER-SAMA
>>572202953movement and tranny coded chars like mina, silver, celeste, holliday
>>572203350>investInfest*
>>572203410>tranny coded charactersYou hand over cool things to retards way too easily.
>>572203410>all women are trannies nowactually obsessed
>>572203586I have no fucking clue why everyone's reaction to trannies trying to take something over and act like they own the place is to cede it to them like pushovers. It's honestly pathetic.
>>572203848yes all modern white women act like men meaning they're basically trannies, or reverse-trannies
>>572203932you dont get it trans folk like this thing so I who's definitely not a trans person must hate thing grr also I will make sure to always point out that said thing belongs to the trans community no I'm not trans
>>572203932>Trannies "Claim" something>"Ew, I dont want to be associated with trannies!">Immediately gives it to them>They move on to new thing>Repeat
Why is vindicta so popular? I have her set to highest prio and I've gotten one game with her in the past 10 I've played, because there's always someone who wants to play her.
>>572204103>>572203932Tranny is just 4chan's version of "nazi", the ultimate insult. Its just something most people here associate with being the ultimate evil something or someone can be, and thus evoking it makes that thing inherently bad, making for an easy insult
>>572204228Its honestly insane how closely alike 4chan and reddit users are.
>>572204228Not really what that anon is referring to honestly.
>>572203932Same. I refuse to hand shit over so easily. I will always push back on that. Especially when I explicitly know its a recent phenomenon/invasion.
>>572204312Same trannies lover mods/jannies. 4chan been infected by normies for years.
Marry GeistFuck GravesKill Silver
>>572202108wow, she doesn't look like a faggot (pocket)
Marry SilverFuck GravesKill Geist
>>572204312This website has long been flooded with failed normalfags that are only here because they either get to say nigger and seethe over posts they're too scared to reply to on other sites or because they already got banned from every other site. Why do you think every other day, or constantly on some boards, some faggot has to come in screencapping a post they saw on reddit or twitter just to bitch about it? This place has become a dumping ground for tourists to whine about shit that they'd get banned elsewhere for.Funny thing too is how people on here used to make fun of redditors for being so retarded that they had to add an /s to their posts to signify sarcasm. Nowadays, you basically can't be sarcastic on this site without a horde of retards taking it at face value, no matter how blatant it is, and crying about it.
>>572205213Im here because Ive been here for 15 years.
>>572205213>you basically can't be sarcastic on this site without a horde of retards taking it at face valueI've noticed this a lot, it used to be pretty obvious we were doing a lot of shit for bants but nobody even wants to joke around on this site any more they're just being mad or autistic
you fags will be begging for the trannies back once time passes and they get replaced by indians
>>572205027why would you fuck a dog
worst game ever made?
>>572206651graves is a dog?
how good is this game if i only want to queue solo?
>>572207248The game humiliates and tortures you with (even more) smurfs if you ever decide to queue with a party.
>>57220724850/50
>>572207248beyond shit
>>572207248It's the only honest way to play.
>>572206856yes , it's abysmal. I pray every day it's cancelled so I stop reinstalling to check if it's good yet
>>572207297wdym?>>572207298honestly a good ratio>>572207385i just care about fun man
It's no wonder this games player count has lost over half.
>>572207593pic rel but rem
>>572207739rem deserves worse
>>572206889why would you marry a dog
>>572206889
if god is real why do russians exist
>>572209932They're satans soldiers
>>572209932you cant have light without darkness
>>572209932It wouldn’t be possible to be good in a world without evil
>>572209932god isnt real
if you are a flying character and get hit by knockdown in the air, what's the most annoying item that can be chained after it to make your life miserable before your eventual death?
>>572211250just buy phantom strike
How did he heal so much? Was that all fortitude?
>>572211250>get hit by knockdown in the airin what shitlow bracket does this happen?
>>572211432You could just look at the healing graph.
>>572211552happens very often if 2 ppl buy knockdown
i hooked a haze player and he spent the rest of the game crying in my steam dms
>>572211781>melee bebop enjoyeryep gem
>>572211869literally i did not land a single hook in lane i probably missed like 20 in a row before hitting that so i dont even know how he could think im cheating
>>572211781>crushing fists bebop ABSOLVTE BVLL
>>572211781Whats umbrella client
how do i know whether i want spirit shielding or enchanter's emblem
>>572212427enchanters is a dead item ever since spirit shielding gives 18% resist when it triggersunless you benefit greatly from the cdr like grey talon/dynamo
>>572211574Oh, right. Sorry. I am stupid.
I never noticed mina has a slight hint of disgust on her face.
>>572212168i googled it its a cheat clienti get it now he was saying theres no way i could have predicted he retreated from yellow to do boxes back here but i didn't predict it i just saw him pick one up to the left here kek
>>572212782i hate fighting ivy because she has her face stuck in her dumbass grin
>>572207248Just know what you're getting into. It's the same as any team multiplayer game.Unlike Dota or LoL though, you're not as helpless. There are many ways to swing the game even if you're down, and many ways to win against someone with more monet than you.
>>572212782It just comes from being asian
when sinclair gets reworked in august, we'll look back at this and try to figure out how non-channeled, ranged, 10 second cooldown blackhole with a damage amp effect was allowed to be in the game for 2 yearsthe next question will be how the winrate of the hero with the black hole in question was never above 50%
>>572211781>!age>!weightim usually one to hate sort of bragging posts like this, but this haze deserves to be in a beheading video.
>>572212985this is completely false once the enemy team gets 10k lead the game is over and you're trapped for the next 30 mins
>>572213737Because the rest of his kit sucks
>>572213737Probably because you could grab all 6 enemy players with it after pre pinging you are going to do so and the retards you have for teammates will go OH BOY THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO LEAVE WITH FULL HEALTH BYE BYE
>>572213737except its not black hole, it gives enemies move speed and makes them smaller which allows them to run away faster. in fact it's like an opposite of black hole
>>572213737just watch some 300 views autistic dudes movement tech tutorial already and you will never get hit by that shit again
>>572213972sorry man, i suddenly feel like doing a tier 1 back camps>its 16 minutes and there are minions about to crash into the walker next to me. no, i will not clear walker
>>572214318but if minions take a walker without an enemy hero nearby you deny the enemy team the 33% of the souls
>>572213737You're counterspell? It's easy to block. It's as honest as spells can get.
>solo queue>do well in lane>game immediately goes to shit after that>can't contest a single urn>lose every fightsnowball simulator
>>572212859I kinda hate how bebop has to use his gun and walk people down with it + light melees
>>572214404I'm Oracle and just now starting to buy counterspell.It's a game changer. Generational win streak right now and I'm blaming counterspell.
>>572215219im phantom never bought counterspell and never will
What am i supposed to do against infuser mokrill?
Why do people on the best team NA buy Tankbuster?Don't they know it's the worst item in teh game?
>>572214662I bet you anything that if you removed your QoL additions you'd queue into better games.
>>572215556Mambo and big tits on Geist are every important QoL mods that I'm not willing to part with
>>572214383yeah. but they aren't going to kill walker here, just fuck it up enough that a wraith or something can come along and kill it quickly. the main issue is that I'M missing souls by doing camps instead of eating wave. and that i fucking left you to die alone
>>572215429Anti heal and don't walk near him when you hear the very loud infuser sound effect
>>572213737YOSHI, YOU FUCKING HACK! NERF THE CHARACTER WITH A 42% WIN RATE AND A 10% PICK RATE RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!
>spirit geist>"BUT I AM ALWAYS TOP DAMAGE BRO"room temp iq spirit geist dogs deserve to be put down
>>572216730I strongly believe his pickrate is so low because of his gun. whenever I fire his weapon I just want to uninstall the game
>>572213737Build melee. Teleport in and out and punch people in the nose. They never expect it. At least I didn't and Kung-Fu Sinclair rocked my shit when I went against him.
faggot nigger slavic monkey russians who pay for boosts and accounts outright telling me not to queue after they go 0-11 on warden in 12 minutes
>>572216858He is buggy and outright broken at times. When he does work he is very dependent on the enemy team comp in addition to requiring good game knowledge and skill. Most people just find that the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Don't forget: Silver.
>>572194256Its not bad, but it is too early in like 90% of the builds
RESET BOOSTED RUSSIAN NIGGERS ACCOUNTS THAT THEY PAID FOR TO SIT IN ETERNUS 5 AND GO 0-11 IN LANEBAN ALL NEW INVITESFIX THE FUCKING GAME
>>572218420worthless hero
>>572218610But still a hot hero, so it's OK*!* - As long as she's not on your team
>>572211432I think siphon counts as healing and his scarabs do now 2
Okay, uh... deadtards?Explain this???
>>572218879siphon 'counts' as healing when you get your health back from stacks falling off. I'm not sure it counts as healing in the other way. it's not affected by anti heal for instance.
put all russian niggers on the draft list and send them into the slaughtergaming is saved
>>572218936Ah its probably just scarabs then, hes got a shit ton of spirit so they are healing for 500+ ez, use them on cd on creeps so you dont miss and its like 2k per 30s
Flopping tranny deadcock.
FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEADCOCK
>>572218879I didn't reply cause the original reply gave me my answer but here was the breakdown.
>get 5 russians>game is now literally impossible to win
draft all orcs into hohol slaughter
here's your fake eternus tranny with the level 0 steam account who literally just bought the account and mysteriously plays at an alchemist level
>>572221870shut up zigger
>>572222783ziggers are the russians (orcs) retard-kun
>>572223560then phrase it better retard-kin
>>572221870right now the opposite is happening btw
>>572223838god you're fucking stupidorcs = russianshohols = ukrainianslearn to shit post or get off the board retard
>>572224136>duuuh you're stupid for not understanding my retard babbletypical 4chan pseudointellectualyou're not smart
>>572224136American websiteNo one gives a fuck about your caveman babble
>>572223802Apollo
Vindicta is ridiculously overpowered.
>>572224794Elaborate
>>572225285feet
>5 russian teams 4 games in a row>completely one sided stomps that resulted in a loss each time>zero macro>zero comms other than to cry about something in lane and then perma tilting off the face of the earth and never talking to anyone again while they force fights in the enemy jungle for the next 20 minutes and ruin the game going 2-14they're all niggers. all of them.
>>572224263stupid reddit nigger fuck off home
>>572226132Did you say "good morning, tzaar" to them?
I bet paige squirts like a fountain and mina is a deadlay
>>572226818Vyper probably makes the most unholy sounds imaginable and Silver fucks like her life depends on it
>>572226927Geist is probably into ruined orgasms and hoilliday is the clingy type and gets super emotional
>>572226252yep he's still going
PARADOX STOLE MY VIRGINITY
>>572227019Calico insists the cat stays in the room and it stars at you the entire time and celest always makes it fun
>>572227169Ivy doesnt do one night stands and is very traditional and yamato only gives handjobs and she fucking hates it
>>572227364You just know Celeste is into some crazy shit and Graves insists on using the Lich hand to please you
>>572227780Graves is "unenthusiastic handjob" personified
mcginnis's clit is huge
>>572227809Yes but with the lich hand
Why is Deadcockers like this
holliday is barren you can deep creampie her every time and it doesn't matter and she cries afterword
>>572228207She literally canonically isn't because she says she needs to get her tubes tied after talking with Graves. If she was barren she wouldn't say that
>>572228260it's just a front, a facade. Keeping up appearances. She knows getting her tubes tied would be pointless.
The best thing about gay ass mods you keep looking for to get mad at is that you don't have to install them
great thread, deadtards.
>>572228589this but unironically
is headhunter worth the money or is it shit? Cause it seems like shit to me but i also fucking suck
>>572229172depends on the charactertf kinda question is that man
>>572215248>>572215219I buy counterspell and I never use it unless it's something super telegraphed like Rem sleep.
>Paige falling for the Nick Ger troll bait during one of her reading sessions
This discussion has firmly established to me that Ivy and Silver are best girls, and Calico and Yamato are worst girls by a country mile
>>572215853Who the hell is your Mambo anyway
>>572229378https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhn8q31Xi4
>>572229172headhunter, much like tankbuster, is an item bought a lot of the time because people think they're good items.why do they think its good? because they see other people buy it. in reality these 2 items are the worst items in the game
>>572218401>buggy and outright broken>requiring good game knowledgeSinclair player detected>he is very dependent on the enemy team comp>requiring good game knowledge and skillFRAUD DETECTED!*they btwLiterally two literal niggas.
>trying to show clip from my game>cant get it below 200mb for catbox let alone 4mb for 4chanpain
>>572229172burst damage/survivability item to fill out weapon investment on heroes that otherwise wouldn't buy orange itemscombos with recharging rush to instantly refill a charge on headshots
>>572229589no savannah is white and henry is black
>>572229961No one watches a 4 minute clip bro just cut it to the interesting part
Reminder that every replay you download if half a gigabyte. Delete them in the folder.
>>572230203Other way around pal.
>Keep running into the same people on broolDead game
>>572230396it's less than a minute showcasing my geist beating out a 4-man shitlow gank. albeit does include a seperate kill on a seven that I only included because the gank happened pretty much immediately after
>holliday calico in literally 100% of my games
>>572230983These two being so common hurts. Luckily they both require the player to be semi functional in the cranium to pilot correctly. So 90% of Deadlock players can't use them despite them being busted.
This is the best I can do with my knowledge with OBS.Is it because the input resolution is larger than the output?Be warned, it REEKS of shitlowhttps://files.catbox.moe/d0a0o7.mp4
>>572231806Thank you for showcasing that horrendous enemy team gameplay DaSkrunkle
>Escalating/Reverb on HelpersI can see why helper damage doesn't scale with spirit, these 2 items alone let a single helper push your wave all the way to their base>>572229172>flat damage so you're just buying it to juice gun damage on a non-gun character>high ROF, high ammo characters have an easier time proccing it whenever it comes off cooldownThe only character I can think of is Ivy
>>572231981Oh no!Dont sent a pipebomb to my house!Everyone knows that you have full access to one's personal info if you have that!NUOOOOO!!!Now about my question
What did she mean by this?
>>572232329check the mail :)
>>572232909AAIIIIEEEE!!
>>572231806Kino af bro
>>572232817She means (You) are stupid
>>572192985the fuck did you do? what is that rancid fuck build you have?>>572193265Silver in anything below Phantom (probably Asc) is a throw pick.
>>572233079:(
>>572231771they don't require a brain until eternus and then they're already here ruining games and crying while having 0 macro
>>572229498whoreframe.
>>572192402I am going to assume that your definition of kigu, and my definition of kigu, are very different
>>572191506Post build?
>two weeks>no patch>dopamine fading>post in /dlg/ about how silver is good or bad>that'll work >for now
>>572233568thats true of every hero in the game
>>572234938
Is gun mokrill secret freelo?
>>572236184YesOnce you get escalation on top of mercurial magnum youre unstoppable
>>572192985>dynamo not building a single ult item>no extended range, no extended duration, no refresherHate these cunts. Imagine getting spirit burn and reverb on Dynamo
>>572228062deadlock is literally like 50% discord trannies
>>572229378https://youtube.com/shorts/i5oJToPMvdY?si=xDvIIMVDoJiA02kY
>>572237037this won't be the case on full release though, they will get massively diluted
>>57223703799% of trannies are apart of the >You dont have to play a game to be a fanhorde
>>572237280doubt it, it's rooted within the community already
>50% of games are just decided by who has better/more smurfsHow much longer until yoshi fixes this?
>>572237037>Nearly 500 lobsters play this gameGaming is so dead, bros. Cant believe devs have to cater to these clawfags
>>572237738rank needs to mean somethingits the only way to fix it
>>572237037The discord is retardedThe only two Rem builds they talk about are fucking gun Rem and pillow Rem
Is lighting scroll on viper secret freelo?
>>572237190lol what an absolute lad. a mad cunt if you will
>>572237738thats impossible to fix
>>572237971in initiate, yes
>>572234508I look like this
>>572237971Metro (the face of deadlock) builds it on viper so that means it must be good.
happy 37th birthday metro!
>>572238167yikes
>>572238126>>572238167thought this guy was a pedo
>>572238259only in burgerland!
>>572238436does he not live in burgerland
>>57223816740 years old... just a kid
>>572238056steam id now
>>572238548no
>>572224794Her damage is overtuned, but that doesn't save her from being the worst character in the game. Play her and you will know it.
>>572238694ok i thought he was a muttoidstill weird though if he's 37
>friendly lane feeds like retards>like 10 deaths by 10 minutes>8 of the kills went to silver so the enemy team actually only got two kills on that lanelol
>>572238785it's also weird for men to have sex with each other but that doesn't make it illegal.
>>572239017wise words, Confucius
Who is the Pashabiceps of deadlock? I need a pro to emulate that isnt a mentally ill human failure
>>572239161Be the change you want to see in the world
>>572239161>mentally ill human failrueDude he was p*lish
>>572238785he's not but i found what he'd look like if he were
>>572239161I think Incon (not pro though) is the only streamer who lifts.
>>572232236>Escalating, reverbInteresting, pretty expensive tho. I wonder if just reverb is enough
>>572215472Everyone knows its dogshit, but it's a statpad so it's obligatory
>>572236184Idk man I build hybrid on basically everyone and even I dont think its worth, maybe a slow bullets+heroic aura but even that is meh
https://files.catbox.moe/o95bgf.mp4>Retard stops mid fight to gloat in chat
>>572239550Reverb's better because the AOE does more damage to the wave, but EE's a nice second add-on
>>572240206>Haze players are dumb niggersMore at 11
What do you guys put on your chat wheel?
>>572240947>yes>no>sorry>thanks>get back>what's the plan? (important)
>alchemist 3>lose one game because of griefing shitty teamates that admitted to throwing>alchemist 1this fucking elo system is dogshit
>>572240947I changed retreat to I'm leaving the area, otherwise default.
delete the added spirit damage on vindicta flight and wraith full-auto so you dont need to invest in two resistance types just to not die in 1 second
>>572242048Hybrid damage was ok when it was a very niche thing that few heroes would build into, now every fucker deals a billion of both and any non-hybrid damage item has been pushed out of the meta.
>>572241169It doesn't have a voice line on my character so I went back to retreat
>>572242048>spirit meta sucks>gun meta sucks>hybrid meta sucks>tank meta suckswhat the fuck do you faggots want??
>>572242524A fun game
I think... I miss gun meta
>>572242524The hero balance itself isn't that bad right now but urn makes aoe shit and tanks way better than they'd otherwise be
>>572240947>Goin teh GANK
She deserves somebody
celeste, the urn slut
>>572243396She deserves buffs.
At what point in the build do you get blood tribute on Vindicta?
>>572240206Pantsu
>retard paige player calls it "over" at 10 minute mark>goes AFK at 15 minute mark when one of our walkers dies despite the fact we took a walker in turn>auto kicked but not abandoned>retard bebop doesnt realize this and quits>paige comes back and leaves without penalty>"gg">drop a rank because of thisWhat a garbage game if penalties can just be bypassed like this and everyone elses elo takes a hit because of it.
Just delete hollidayI'm tired of this mouthbreathing retard characterYoshi's philosophy of buffing a character = making them available to the lowest of the low is so fucking annoying
>>572244640rank means nothing
>>572244924Maybe I dont want to be matched up with obscuruslets having their babbies first game.So yes it does mean something retard
>>572245043Then try playing with friends :^)
so i've figured out why the game refuses to rank me up but ALWAYS ranks me down.it's because im in fucking Phantom getting Emisary/Archon average games if the ranked thing at the end is to be believed. So 1 victory = 1 rank up, but 1 loss = 2 ranks down because im so vastly above them the game thinks I shouldnt be losing to themt-thanks yoshi...
>>572245171All my friends are smart enough to stay clear from this dogshit game
>>572243396She deserves bulls.
>>572191252came back to give deadlock another go (last played during the first playtest)i really like silver and her abilities so far and a community build i'm copying seems ok enough but the more i play the more i realize she... might not be the best character in the game. my problems are mostly with how every fucking character can dash or fly far away from my reach. also, she can heal with items/abilities but somehow i still get my ass kicked in fightsany tips or do i just quit using her?
>>572245689KEK
>>572245689She's dogshit at laning and if you dont get a good feed in lane then you'll spend the entire game playing catchup.She's also dogshit at farming camps and waves so take a wild guess how you're supposed to catchup :)
>>572245689sis…
>>572245689She is good but you need to be decent at movement to catch people with wolf form which might take a while if you haven't played that long.
Why does playing McGuinness feel like committing war crimes?Should I just enjoy the freelo until she gets rebalanced?
>>572245854vaaalveeeeeeee....i see :( seems like every game i get into i pick the worst characters that are just shit innately or are giganerfedthanks vros
>>572240947I have three voicewheels
>>572245689She's good if you have insane and efficient movement Or you can just play Kelvin and go fly with your beam spam, zero skill required.
july 4th calling it nowupdated jungle, map, hero designs and lore introductions to the city officials (aka pockets family)centennial banners and tapestry hanging on buildings and fireworks
>>572246670I don't think we're getting update until septValve time baby
is rejuv supposed to be the huge win con because it doesn't feel like it to me
>>572246613>>572246001any movement items that are gucci on her? the build i'm using doesn't seem to be focusing much on movement (well, the core build anyway). constant stuns are also a problemand who/what should i be focusing on in fights?
>>572247567warp stone, superior stamina, and phantom strike
>stomps during lane>struggles midgame>becomes useless late gameWhat am I missing in terms of Macro for Holliday? I've been doing better on characters like silver and graves but holliday is my main. Also i noticed most other Hollidays stomp during lane but fall off. Alch 1
>>572240947I only ping midboss and urnI also mute everyone but i will sometimes use voice chat anywaysFor midboss and urn
>>572246363You can play her but seriously, never solo a lane.Dont be a lane janny either unless uou have no choice.you'll have to parasitize a teamate for shared souls and might even make enemies out of them but if they're smart they'll know its your only way.Think of yourself as a guard dog unironically.
I know you lurk here MoonTerm.Never play again.
>>572247923>>572247667much appreciated <3
>>572245689heres a tip:play who you enjoy, the game forces you to play ranked and there IS no casual so just play who's the most fun.Look at items and think "hmm how can I incorporate that into my build?"For example, get knockdown or a stun/silence item that works with your character if the problem is chasing them down.
>>572236184has the same dps as warden's gun at 35 boons btw
rem is the cutest character in any video game and I love him :)
Sidelane was promised to me 5000 years ago
Please indicate your level of excitement for the next Deadlock major update (coming September) on a scale from 1 to 10.
>>572249920Geist…
>>572250023>they're adding Hoodwink10
>>572247725it's the oppositeshe's the weakest during lane and becomes overpowered with her T3 barrels. She scales well because of reverb and spirit burn proccing her barrels. if you've been getting raped you can transition into lasso ultbot or if your team is all spirit you can hybrid gunslinger and build for crackshot
rem more like reddit
why does this game make me want to constantly call my teammates slurs? Does valve do anything against calling people slurs in voice?
>>572243396why is tranny slop always so hideous
>>572244924ranks do matterinitiate - phantom = play with completely new playersasc - eternus = play against e6 smurfstherefore getting a specific rank will change how the game is
>>572250769>why does this game make me want to constantly call my teammates slurs? Interacting with subhumans has that effect.>Does valve do anything against calling people slurs in voice?I've been doing in in Dota for over a decade and I've never even been chat restricted, Valve doesn't give a shit. Unless you spam so much it triggers an anti spam filter you're good to go.
>>572250404I need less advice for building and more for macro
>>572249991b-boobies....
>>572244924ranks do matterObscurus - Eternus = people new to the gametherefore getting a specific rank will not change how the game is
>>572250769because have the time we have shitty teamates that will prio jungle farm over walker defense
>>572247725What?Holliday is a monster late game. Just look for picks with your team and use your giga mobility for fast rotates and catches
much like cs this game was only meant to be played in a tournament league context and not pubs with randoms.
>>572251138dota is different, 99% of the players you will encounter there will be russian. russians dont care if you drop the n-bomb because their culture isnt centered around worshipping browns and third worldersdeadlock is infested with white western trannies, these creatures worship brown thirdworlders so all 11 people in the match will report you and you'll get chat restricted
>>572251881Don't care, gonna keep calling fags niggers.
6/28 Patchnotes:>Reduced gun damage drop offs for all characters down to 10m>All bullet projectile velocities have been lower to 150>Spirit Burn now lasts until the target is under 15% HP>Intensifying Mag now requires you to shoot for 14 seconds to build up +15% damage>Glass Cannon HP reduction increased from -13% to -25%>Lucky Shot chance reduced to 5% for a 25% damage bonus>Spirit Resilience has been removed as it is too punishing towards spirit users>Reverb now reverberates an additional 2 times>Spirit shop bonuses increased by 75%>Warden's movement speed has been reduced to 4.9>Viscous bullet damage reduced by 1>Debuff resist no longer affects crowd control duration>A full charged melee will now stun the target for 2s if it is not parried>Urn now appears every 2 minutes
>>572252003god bless you but you won't be doing that for long
>>572252047m1gger seethe lmao
I am now at 25 losses in a row. Every game has multiple Russians on it and I've had Billybot or Drifterbot go 0-20 every single time. Doesn't matter if I pick carries when my team feeds like crazy and refuses to lift a finger to help when I'm being 6v1d in base while they're running urn at 55 minutes in.
>>572243078>tanks are finally not useless for one side objectiveDps mains when it takes more than 2 seconds to kill
>>572252047>no silver nerfslmao
>>572251138I wouldn't but I'm growing tired of calico niggers complaining when they're playing the most busted hero in the game.
>>572252591>calico>bustedSeeker-kun...
>>572250023>Septemberwhat year though
>>572252904Its weird, her kit is kinda shit but her core items are good this patch so she's playable
>>572252047This would fix the game
>every other game is a stack running gank squad>team constantly walks alone or spends the game not wanting to fight or do anything everis eternus any better or is it still the same shit as ascendant
>>572253080no stacks in eternus
I'm Seeker
>>572253358Lacari...
tankbuster
>>572253358>>572253442Unironically how is it even possible to be Seeker? How do you not instantly shoot up
>>572253520i have 50 hours and havve only played one game in 2026
>>572253520when your in seeker your team is also in seeker and they are too bad to win ok
>>572252047unironically would make the game more tolerable than what it is now. The fact that you cant carry with a spirit hero makes the game worse than league
Making the game so aim intensive ruined any chances it had to become a success.
>>5722500230 we haven't seen anything.I want the update sure but I'm not going to pretend like it's changing anything I want or adding anything I want.
>>572254063>aim intensive>75% of the roster can just toss spirit garbage in your general direction
>>572254063there are plenty of heroes to play if youre chronically an aimlet
>>572254063One of the best players literally uses a trackball
>>572254342>>572254361>>572254606Hoodwink or Slork or whatever is not going to save your dogshit game. It's time to move on.
Geist probably talks abou jews like she's a mini Voltaire
>>572254606You say that as if he isn't a 99% accuracy autist with it.
>>572254342>>572254361seeker-kuns...
>>572254789initiate-san...
>>572242454it's dumb that some of the new characters don't have voice lines for it.
>haze is back to being the metanigger pickYep it's actually time to uninstall this game until yoshi gets raped by illegals in seattle and has a epiphany that the game should have designated roles and only the designated roles can buy certain items making curse a support only item.
>>572254973um shes only c tier though unlike meta defining heroes like silver
>>572254973>making curse a support only item>solo queue winrates drop to single digits as your random gun rem/gun paige sure as fuck are not aware of the item's existence
>>572254063Buckle up, the next meta is Vindicta/Mirage/Apollo
>>572246670>saturday update
>>572251181play safe in lane until you have t3 barrels. you'll probably have lost gracefully behind tower when t3 barrels comes up. then buy trophy collector and roamat pisslo general advice is to don't let waves crash into walkers. start slotting simple 1600 counterbuys for people who are fed from laning. don't int into enemy walkers if you don't know where most enemies are. eat wave, eat sinners, and stop crossing the map for fights that are already overholliday is incredibly strong the moment she gets her t3 spike, thinking otherwise is a pure pilot issue
>>572254063Worst take of the day award
>>572254715Geist would very likely be extremely racist against Jews even by 1950s standard. 1800s France saw a big rise in antisemetism from both sides of the political spectrum so much so people. Geist in particular being an aristocrat (as many blamed the jews for their loss of power after the revolution)There was also the Dreyfus Affair just before the malestrom where a jew was caught selling French secrets to Germany which exploded into antisemitic riots
>>572255958they updated the game on christmas last year dude
>>572256387All of that is antisemitic blood libel and it never happened ok and even if it did it's be ok because the holocaust was worse
Elo falling too far is an unrecoverable spiral because you just keep getting stuck against smurfs
>>572256784But you're also smurfing when you fall that far, dumbfuck
>>572256408thats because yoshi is a muslim
>>572256892Different degrees of smurfing, dumbfuck
>>572257174So you're bad then.Sit.
This general's disdain for bomb geist/ tank buster got me wondering how you all feel about building for poke in general.OK for a small investment? Personally I think its fine as long as you can still pick up a enough other items to be useful in teamfights.
>lash on team>uses ult 1 time in a 40 minute match>this in in Oraclefucking christgovernment mandated retard daycare
>>572257703I have more than 1k games on Geist and more than 2k hours in game. If your team is good, then resist-life-sucking geist with focus lens is your best bet.and if you have retards on your side, then bomb geist is your only chance to win
to the faggots who say "its YOU not your team"what was I supposed to do here?Genuinely.Shiv and Venator kept diving into 1v6's that they would lose after we won literally every phase in the game AND were in their base.Dynamo also kept ulting 1 person at a time and THEN they'd all group up effectively wasting his ulti and getting everyone killed.Like I honest to god don't know how I could have possibly played this game better as Venator and Shiv just kept fucking feeding.>inb4 "get more souls" my build was complete and anytime Dynamo hit more than 1 person with his stun they'd all fucking die. PLEASE tell me what more I could have done in this game to prevent Shiv and Venator from 1v6ing the team everytime they were alive in late game.
>>572258578It is you. Stop playing low impact heroes.
BACKROOMS DEADLOCK>b-but muh doormannot the same
>>572258578show damage and items
Graves gets her arms ripped off in a couple of days for being decent for more than 2 seconds. But a rem with an abram/vic being an auto win for months and it's dead fucking silent. WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING?
>>572257703Mina is a big fan of Lady Geist btw
>>572258718>Backrooms hero>Metal Gear hero
>>572258495>>572257703By in general I meant considering the whole roster, not just geistGood insight though. When I play geist I personally don't level up bomb until basically the end, but I'm probably hindering my farming + the amp from 3 is probably not doing much early
>>572258947hehe EX DEE
>>572237395We've been over this.If they invaded with the last hero wave, its not "rooted" within said community.
explain why sometimes I can parry abrams after when he pushed me against the wall and sometimes there's not enugh time to parry wtf is this?
>>572258578>what more could I have donevery simple anon.you play another because the game decided to give you a shiv who thinks he owns the world and feeds.
>>572259123spend 15 min in the discord and come back
>>572243396Genuinely don't even know what the fuck is supposed to be happening here.
>>572228062They're big fans of Epstein.
>>572259259Yes, the discord is fully of those retards who joined it 5 months ago.Doesn't change what I said.
What should I be working on if im hardstuck Oracle 5/6?
>>572259643plug in the monitor
>>572213737the only people who bitch about this hero are the ones that never play himit doesn't matter if he has something good because THE HERO HAS NEVER HAD A WINRATE OR PRO SUCCESS THAT MADE IT RELEVANT. he is not an AUTISTIC SAVANT HARD TO PLAY GOOD TO MASTER he is just TERRIBLE. draft will not save sinclair he has clearly been untouched by balance patches for months because he is getting a full kit rework because it doesn't even work. i made a lengthy post on the forums about it already after 300+ games on him months ago but I dunno if yoshi will ever read my pleb opinion
>>572259778congrats on your only accomplishment in life being that you ranked up to tomtom 3
Rem literally just mindbroke metrohttps://www.twitch.tv/metro/clip/DependableAlertChinchillaKeepo-XYwuoiNSl7v_3JPQ
>>572259898ok? people in oracle literally don't know how minions work or what power spikes are. they're basically bots that walk around attacking whoever they see
>>572259852What about his kit doesn't work?I unironically think he would be decent if they fixed his bugs, namely express shot.
>>572260058that wasn't even a crazy play or full heal lool
>>572260113>Post earnest question>"Erm have you tried gitting good? XD"Worst part is you are probably like Phantom 5.
>>572257703Almost everything is okay as small investment, like 1/3rd of a build. The issue with poke is heals mogs it and you cant know the healing level before you que. I do think its ok with execute heavy comps
>>572260342He throws a baby tantrum any time he doesn't get his way all while playing billy he's a true billy main
>>572260058>mindbroke>he says fuck rem and moves onanon I think metro has mindbroken you
>>572260767Yes he's clearly not screaming at the top of his lungs while covered in sweat, what are you one of his mods?
>>572258998More about Geist Slowing spirit, slowing hex, focus lens, something for movement and resist, sucking charges, you don't even need healing items for it to work, only Fortitude. With that build you can 1v1 if teams are equal, but if there's a huge gap and you're losing - that won't do shit. They'll shred you or focus you before you make any damage with lifedrain. Spamming bombs with Mystic Reverb from the distance will make more impact. also bomb does instant damage, while life drain takes time, and you don't have time when the enemies are stronger and can simply get behind the coveralso: 1 cooldown reduction is better than spirit power for bomb geist 2 escalating only needed if you're using her second and not bomb, for bomb geist you only need the tankbuster
>>572260193At risk of citing a youtuber, all of sinclair's power budget is in vexing bolt. It doesn't feel good to use playing, and it doesn't feel good to get hit by. I would compare Wraith's cards as something more of a proper implementation of a tricky projectile and it's infinitely more consistent. His 1 and his 2 are also intrinsically tied to each other. You basically have no burst or damage if you don't 2 with your 1 after the 10 minute mark. The chaotic nature of urn fights for example means if your first clone ended up being bad, you're basically worthless past being an ult bot. That's if you can steal the good one in the first place if the opportunity makes it even worth doing. His bolts also got nerfed months back to be slower so hooking them around corners pretty much deleted half of the fun of the hero for me because you used to be able to triangulate it easier with the lock on. The lock on in general has always been a buggy mess as well. The fact pros basically only play him as a 2bot or a Kelvin ult stealer is a hero viability recession indicator. He's potentialman incarnate. A hero that feels like he should have infinite value but is the master of none. Express Shot? I guess it'd be interesting but a gun direction is not what Sinclair needs at all. I'd honestly rather he get a new 1 or a 2 if anything. Design him to be tricky in some other way. Then you can solder off all the cringe to play against parts that I agree with like being funneled into echo bunny in the late game because bolts lose all their consistency. It's also a small thing but Sinclair is soft handicapped by the angles on the Urn. Since it can't travel as far to properly lock on hit people, it 'nerfs' his damage potential because you have to take the guaranteed Bolt hits over the distance. Assistant is also pretty prone to getting los'd. Also this skill, I really hate how braindead it feels to just hit 2 and receive damage because of the auto lock on. Just want to see anything new.
Games in shitlow are decided by whichever team bought the most Tankbusters (worst item in the game)That team will lose
>>572261336it depends on your hero, if tankbuster is getting triggered then it will end up making a lot of damage
>>572261336>Games in shitlow are decided by whichever team bought the most TankbustersGames in shitlow are decided by wichever team rolled the 27-2 m1gger smurf on their team. I know this because im stuck in shitlow.
>>572261031>escalating only needed if you're using her second and not bomb, for bomb geist you only need the tankbusterI mean srsly whenever I check the stats escalating only does like 1536 dmg - it's not worth 6400 souls
>>572261968Its worth because that 1500 comes in when tankbuster is doing 10
>>572261968I wish there was a way to sort the end game stats to show damage by item instead of by ability/damage source.
>>572262523tankubster does % of damage of their max health - it's getting better with time, like Decay
>>572262812Current, not maxAs fights go on and hp gets lower, tankbuster gets worse and ee gets better. Additionally the damage at the end of fight is more valuable than the beginning
>>572258947Graves strong for a few days? Hotfix nerf her. Still strong after one week? Nerf her again. Winrate finally trending down? It's only been a week since that nerf too? Hotfix nerf her again.
>>572262557For example if you're doing 250 dmg, then fully stacked escalating will make it like 380 dmg, so it will be 50% dmg more if everything is perfect but there's no way you'll be able to stack all 12, it never fucking happens either they die sooner or run away
>>572263303>damage at the end of fight is more valuable than the beginningyou realize if a pocket gets affliction on 2+ people at the start of the fight his team just autowins right
>>572257703The problem with bomb geist is that it often makes Geist a worse frontliner.Since frontliners are so important to your team's overall success, doesn't matter how much over damage Geist can do if her team can just get run down because she's standing back lobbing a bomb every 6 secondsI'm a Geist main and while bomb can be funny and there are games were it FEELS really good, Geist serve her team better as a frontliner rather than a discount Grey Talon
the initial problem isn't "x character is bad" it's "x character is situational OR relies on others to be good"and since theres no draft, and no way to pre-game who to pick with who works well with others. You just get fucked if your a situational character on a team that doesnt work with you, AND then your team gets fucked because your dead weight to them.it's great, great game design Yoshi. It's why I think he ISNT icefrog because only a drooling retard who didnt spend 90% of his life working on dota could come up with something so retarded
>>572263303>Additionally the damage at the end of fight is more valuable than the beginningno, low health enemies are fleeing or panic and make mistakes, getting them as low as possible even before the fight began is more valuable
>>572263757Ok? Pocket ult being busted doesnt change the fact the first 10% it does is less valuable then the last 10%If you have 100 gallons of water you wont pay very much for more, if you are dying of thirst you will
>>572263801you're taking too much damage in front so you can't make much damage and if your temmates are not making damage - you're fucked
He needs more buffs.
>>572263942not in my experience, when good player gets low, adrenaline spikes and they lock inSome people do crack under pressure but I am not worried about those people
which norwood stage is this?
i dont understand why anyone wants draftim gonna pick the same 1-2 heroes anyway this isnt dota 2
>>572265083Seeker-kun...
>>572265083Cope from shitters that think it will solve random team comps
Why is graves allowed to push two lanes at the same time?
billy's great escape
>draft is implementedDon't care, I play two heroes and if I can't pick one of them I will unwillingly grief. I have never and will never play support.
>>572265393thats just a matchmaking issueas long as shared souls is a thing it will never matter
>>572265518Cheating
>>572265569this
>>572264390Are you saying you as in me or you as in those using bomb Geist?Either way, likely you have 4 other teammates who can do pissloads of damage but cannot frontline. Bomb Geist requires way more investment to do substantial damage and it damages yourself. But most relevantly is that the damage isn't that consistent because it's tied to your 1 (which has a 6s cool down and can miss). You're meant to take damage as Geist or any tank for that matter. It's like trying to build Calico tanky, or doing stuff like gun REM. Also it just kinda sucks at actually getting kills and creating tactical pressure. Low impact damage most of the time
>>572264695In my expirience they're to afraid to push and they have to split. Bomb-Geist can hold her ground, where Life-Drain-Geist would be dead in seconds
>>572265518i hate how some heroes can just scale the highest buildings effortlesslywhat im saying is delete lash from the game
>>572265518>maxing rising ram firstY I K E S
>>572265569Im ok with this because you will never match with me
>>572265518why did you speed up the clip kinda ruins the whole thing
>>572265894I guess you're too low yeah
>>572265518Mokrill would have stopped you there btw.
>>572266082If you can only play 2 heros then you deserve shitlow, but also I think draft may come with roles so you wont have to fill
>>572265518schmovement bros...
>>572264657Riposte is already the second most broken ability in the game after Rising Ram, he's fine now if you go gun
>>572266484>Riposte is already the second most broken ability
>>572266484It's literally useless wtf are you on
>>572265518
>>572265741>You're meant to take damagePost you recent game stats with items and shit
>>572265518Here we see: A billy being fucking useless and almost dying whie initiating 2 fights that got 2 of his teammates killed yellow.Bravo billy you retarded faggot
>>572265518staying on the rooftops would have saved you time and health. this is a retarded fucking clip
>>572265518What the fuck is the thing you do at 0:15 - 0:16, how did you just boost into the air out of nothing? What the fuck even is that? Ew, that is actually so fucking disgusting why is that in the game?
>>572265518Edge boosts mindbreak Seekerchuds so hard it's so funny
>>572267535go to the wiki and look at movement nigga
>be tank Geist>you can't be everywhere in time so your teammaetes keep feeding>enemy team ignores you and kills your teammates first>you can't make damage, you can't push lanes with your bomb>you can't take camps>you can't do shit
>viscous leaves the pit to heal, allowing the enemy team to kill the patronDon't you love retarded teamates?
>>572266978>>572267148Stay initiate forever
>>572267703>viscous defending the pitThe game was over anyway
>>572265518aside from the initial boost, the rest of this is kinda rarted
not enough players on servers cause closed alpha or whatever means I get ritualists in my eternus lobbiescool...thanks...nice...epic...fuck ranked and fuck yoshi for forcing this shit on everyone.
>>572267703Him being alive for 3 more seconds before getting vaporized wouldn't change anything.
>>572265518Why did this get a million replies, is it an elaborate samefag?
>>572266243I'm in asc 4 and climbing playing only one hero as my other hero got shitcanned
I don't think I will ever understand faggots on the enemy team saying>why you grief?or>reportedwhen I am running it down so they can finish the gameLike, you are finishing the game quicker and you get an easy win, I don't see any problem with that if you are on the enemy team
How do you niggers put up with playing the "actual" game? After realizing there's no hidden MMR in Street Brawl I've been forced to play this MOBA garbage so I stop getting people who have never played a video game before, and it's like pulling teeth.You spend 15-20 mins of your life performing chores for a CHANCE at getting to anything remotely interesting or fun depending on how good your monkeys are in relation to the enemy monkeys. You all have issues for doing this day in day out.
Just bind your slide to e already
>be bomb Geist>push all 3 lanes by throwing bombs across the map>hold enemy team because floor is a lava>support your temmamets from the distance, slwoing enemies with mystic reverb >make tons of damage to several enemies even before the fight starts, even when you can't see them>no one's getting out alive because you can finish them off even behind the corners>no need to worry about healing or taking damage>they can't use rejuvs and push towers because there are no troopers>clean camps in seconds while running by
>It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baDdlBV6xVI
>>572267165You're MEANT to be taking THE damage because you're a character that can survive it, doofus. Frontliners are important to a team's success and I can't believe I have to explain why. Gun/tank Geist is so potent and meta that bomb geist is genuinely trolling and only used by driftwood rank. Damage isn't an issue on Geist, it's making that damage impactful that matters because she already craps out damage based on her kit alone. You're better off building around her 2 and gun if you want a spirit build. Not having enough of a frontline fucks your team up because then your team gets run down or bursted>>572267686Your gun? Sir?>>572269131Regular Geist can clear waves with a bomb with minimal investment lil blud>support your temmamets from the distanceAlso known as throwing
>>572269415show teammates and enemies
>>572234508Genuinely what the fuck is that? No I mean animal pajamas you fucking degenerate. The cheap ass ones you get at the mall that are fleece.
>>572269590How about you actually engage with the points being made instead, nigger. Or is that beyond you?
>>572269415I had the same mvp games as bomb geist and even 6 reists items geist
>>572269750>look my team wasn't ass and i've got some kills
>Infernus if he was good
>>572270264>Infernus if he was child molester
>>572269415>not even mvp>spirit graves carried himWhat a faggot
>>572269989>>572270462>>572269989>post your most recent statline+build>"WAAAH NO NO NO NO NO DOESNT COUNT YOU GOT CARRIED I ONCE HAD A GAME WHERE I WENT 100-0 WITH 200K DAMAGE ON BOMB GEIST SHUT UP SHUT UP"You're not even trying to discuss this, you just want to nitpick literally nothing because you play with the noob meme build because you can't aim
Patch when?
>>572270264this nigga looks evil
>>572270783trvke
>>572270264Is that Jerma?
>>572270810Use case?
You must pick ONE Hero to lane withWhich one are you picking?
>>572270810We're waiting until the playerbase drops another 20k just for shits and giggles, so late July.
>>572271051>thinks any of these heroes are bad to lane with other than celestetales from seeker
>>572270901>shits fiery diarrhea all over you laneyeah its him
>>572270810They don't have 6 heroes with finalized kits yet. No more than 2 months probably.
>>572270783what's the point of posting only your stats in a team game, retard?>meme build>said gun geist with like the most popular build in the library jej
>>572271136the point is they are low winrate, initiate-kun
>>572271051I'm gonna go with one of the three best laners in the game.
>>572237037Trannies literally get off to broadcasting that they're trannies.If there were a straight emoji would you bother to react with it?
>>572240947I'll deal with the troopers.Let's hide here.It's dangerous here.What's the plan?I'm not ready for a teamfight.Going to shop.I'm leaving the area.
>>572237037>almost 700 israelis play this game>not a single palestine flag in sightIs Yoshi ourguy?
Gun Geist is the shitter low skill build. Bomb Geist is what real men play.
>192 comment thread complaining that the urn changes have made the game unfun for people and they're not playing as much anymorelmao they're gonna keep koth urn arent they
>>572268496He was well over half health desu
>>572272118Other urns were worse
>>572258578you're playing a throw pickyou queued up wanting to lose
>>572269020>ou spend 15-20 mins of your life performing chores for a CHANCE at getting to anything remotely interestinYou play m1gger heroes and are shocked that you're getting mindbroken? There's a reason they're all neurotic. Play someone that builds trophy collector and live in their jungle.
>>572258578as always: link your statlocker. not every one of your matches is like this. you dont remember the times the enemy team was hilariously bad. of course you cant win every match and this was one of those. in general if you cant get a 51%+ wr you deserve the rank youve got
>>572268585because there is a chance you end up on their team next and do the same retarded shit. might as well get you in faggot queue now
>>572272118ctf urn next
>>572271424only in response to trannies
>>572272829this is why this game needs surrender button
i heckin love street brawl
>>572269379>gun mokrillWhat?
>>572273212why
>>572272858unironically based
>>572273326Nostalgia goggles, ctf fucking sucks. There's a reason it died
>>572273309because i have no desire to play 10 mins of hit the floating ball and go either 10-0 or 0-10 in the teammate lotterystreet brawl is the only casual mode, ie no mmr lose for fucking around and its quick
HOW TO RANK UP 101:Play with a friendno really thats it, theres no fucking draft in this game which means making a team comp is impossible unless you play with friends and team comps mean everything.This game does NOT care and WILL put 4 DPS and 1 tank on your team, and then put 2 tanks, 2 supports, 2 DPS on their team for an actually good well rounded team comp and you WILL get stomped into the fucking ground because of this.Source: Eternus 4 and play with my friends constantlyStop suffering, get a friend and play with them. EZPZ or just stop taking ranked so seriously cause this is a clown game made by clown people who do nothing but honk their noses at any meaningful changes because they care too much about graphs rather than the playerbase having fun
>>572267148>invulnerability to anything plus a stun is le badholy fuck
Trying to play many characters is so fucking ass dude. I look at my statlock page and i'm getting E ratings because i'm trying to play new characters. Meawhile i get dumpstered by a dude playing wraith who is Eternus, i look at their profile and they legitimately only play Wraith, have 300+ games on the hero. I want to play different heroes, go for different playstyles but if i want to get better i should legitimately just spam the one character i'm good at
>>572273617my friends are either initiate 4 or boosted (yes literally) and a worse player with their dogpoop inflated ranknah solo queue is free mmr
>>572265518Great escape from a spot you shouldn't have beenNice job retard learn how to be in position
well?
>>572273617This game is horrible to play with friends unless all of you really, really want to win and are ok with strategizing for it. I used to play with two friends, the problem is that we all like playing spirit heroes. This means half our team guaranteed can't carry the game, meaning we were at a horrible disadvantage unless we played characters we didn't want to play. On top of that, queueing in as a group means you have a very large chance to get matched against other groups, and they can be in a larger stack and playing really coordinated with comps, meaning you won't have a chance. I just gave up on playing deadlock with friends, nowadays the three of us just soloqueue and we win a lot more
>>572273715I just try to limit it to a role, like frontlune then I q 3-4 of that role
>>572271051I love laning with vypers>>572273982it's a 3, most items are 3anything that's a straight stat stick is a 2 or 3
>>572271424>If there were a straight emoji would you bother to react with it?Some people tried and it got removed
>>572273715the trick is spamming a new hero like 30-50 times then switchplaying a new one every game learns you nothing
>>572273982Interesting 5, fun 1, shit question I think its interesting because it puts the lifesteal as a debuff on the enemy so it isnt affected by diminishing returns. But outside of niche lifesteal builds its pretty meh
as a Phantom who is now in Ritualist. I've given up honestly.fuck this game, fuck yoshi and fuck forcing ranked on new players/not explicitly stating YOUR PLAYING A RANKED GAME.Anyways im on a loss streak and will continue because I dont give a shit and just wanna have fun again (but cant because theres no casual mode and street brawl is kinda gay).
>>572274136That's the problem dude, people who like variety are at such a horrible disadvantage in this game. I don't want to play the same fucking hero 50x in a row
>>572274635then quit
>>572274456You dropped to ritualist bro, that is the casual mode. Players there are retards. Fuck around on characters you don't usually play and experiment with builds, there's no reason to even have an ego at this point.
>>572274129>it got removedWhat excuse did they use to do that
>>572274678great game design
>>572274635thats literally how you get good at mobas yeah i can play 95% of the heroes in this game but how many years do you think it took me, not to mention the years of starcraft and wc3 before that
>>572273617I unironically abused the duo queue system to make it to Ascendant. Now I get to grief actual Ascendant players because I'm not good at all but because my friend who started initiate and I was Emissary.
>>572274806People should be less prideful.
>>572270264cracker fern
>>572274826even dota 2 pros literally play a hero pool of 5-10 characters with 40k+ hours in the gamethere is no one who plays everyone at a high level
>>572256387>There was also the Dreyfus Affair just before the malestrom where a jew was caught selling French secrets to Germany which exploded into antisemitic riotsActually it was Ferdinand Walsin Esterhazy who sold the secrets, but he was part of the Epstein/Saville class, so even though everyone knew it was him, they blamed everything on the next available Jew, playing on the stereotype and hoping his sort would generate little sympathy.
>>572274992>Stupid dog, you made me look bad!
>>572274680nah im good. this shit aint fun anymore by myself, losing my rank that I fought to get too because the matchmaking refuses to have draft, AND puts new players with 10 hours in my games is dumb and demoralizing.fuck you yoshi.
>>572274806>excusethey don't need one when they control all communication
>>572273934Nothing wrong with invading deep camps/boxes if you won lane this hard desu
>yoshi releases draft>ME MID ME VINDICTA ONLY OR FEED >HAZE OR FEED JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ>END FAST NO SUPPORT END FAST AFK AFK AFK
>>572275471literally the future that awaits this game and retard want to jump right off the cliff of drafting
if u take rem in draft im afking idgaf
>>572275471Yeah, metaslaves will rule the game after drafting is in, it'll be like Dota where half the time I can't play what I want
>>572275471unironically you can play around all 3 of these better than you can just getting thrown in with a 4 support 2 tank team...also has never been a problem for any moba ever, not dota, not league. Give the retard the lane and watch as they either feed or do really good.Either way, you can pick characters around who they pick to help.
>>572275764nta anon but is dota worth getting into, I hated league because of how gay the balancing was they literally just buff whoever is selling the most skins lol
is there a vtuber with an onlyfans that plays deadlock?
>he doesn't know role queues have been confirmed for october patch
it's UP
Is there a reason why I can't view all of the accounts of people I have played with?
>>572275457There is if you can't escape. You got out this time but it won't happen everytime and then your lead is gone.
>>572275925>>572275764>>572275471I will probably drop the game if I can't play as any of the characters I want because some third world favela monkeys decided they didn't want support
>>572275936yo mama
>3 gun carries on the enemy team>Buy suppressor as dashfernus>Reap the rewards of salty m1ggers galoreLife is good
>>572275925I feel like if you were someone who would be into Dota you'd already be playing it but idk. It's fun, Valve is very hands-off so each game you can see people doing all sorts of degenerate bullshit.
Why should I ever stop building pillow nuke Rem?
>>572275846bad enough in dota they added role queuebad enough in rivals they lost 75% of their player base
>>572275925If you hate league and presumably like deadlock there's a decent chance you'll like dota
If you dont like draft then just q all pick retards
>>572276172>dashfernuspossibly the most dishonest playstyle in the game
>>572276357>just split the community into 234234 little modes so queue times at 20 minutes each bro
>>572276471but he mentioned a more dishonest playstyle in the post you're replying to anon
I've been running it down so hard that people are remembering my name. I just love ragebaiting people my favorite interaction is always:>You're so shit! Kill yourself!!!No, thanks I'm having fun.>Why are you in my rank!?!?Because I'm as good as youTeehee hehe
just add a custom game browser
>>572276494I see your strawman and accept your concession
>>572276651>perform incredibly shitty in a match>next match>noooo you're the guy from last match who fed>guy then proceeds to go 1/8 while I get MVPThis was such a good feeling. I definitely mocked him at the end. He also didn't perform great in the match I was feeding.
>>572276838why did you feed in his match but then turn on aimbot in yours?
>>572276494you mean like they did before and then HAD to force ranked on people because there wasnt enough useable data to balance the game?yeah fuck off newfag.
>>572276901I got put on graves both matches. No aimbot required.
>>572276651>play refresher lightning scroll first items talon (no, i won't pivot to charged shots after getting enough stacks. owl only all the way, bitch)>both enemies and teammates start raging once they recognize me
>>572276004I think from the minimap state at the start of the clip it's fineIvy is stuck with the blue wave, Viscous or Cali were likely the ones who shoved green outand yellow is 2v1ing Warden so honestly if they sent even more people green it would have only been better for his team
add a surrender button dude.If the enemy wants to stick it out and try to comeback fine, but I SHOULDNT be forced to be stuck in a losing game for 40 minutes.Let me surrender when its an obvious loss and move on with my life.
>>572265518the initial boost escape is good but why do you drop back down to street level inatead of just staying on the rooftops
>>572277115This removesthe power fantasy feeling you get as the winning team.
>>572277115you aren't forced to play the game, just close it
>>572277115Real. Im sick of being 30k down into a 15 minute game and wasting another 15 just to lose slower.
>>572277115if rem and victor/billy end up on the same team, the game should enable surrendering for the opposing team
>>572277115It's the abandon match button, retard.
>weekend evenings>thread and game is noticeably lower iq
>>572277601then you get a leaving penalty retard
>>572275471I don't get why you wouldn't want to be able to pick around your team like every other game, do you people not play mobas?
>>572278197right now i get to play carry every game which i like. in rivals im forced to play tank/support 50% of games which is why i quit
>>572278103Good, you deserve that punishment
>>572270264>>572274992Whitefernus looks like he narrowly dodged charges for warcrimes in Nürnber for his usefulness to the sciences.
>>572278103Uninstall the game and the penalty won't affect you.
>>572278103Just leave and go play something else.Play only one a day but if the first game is filled with retard teammates just leave but not before feeding a 1k bag to the carry so they suffer.
>>572278313>in rivalsGrim
I think the most miserable part of going on a loss streak is getting backseated by some retard who's confidently wrong about macro stuffI got yelled today at for running urn while we were up on souls, ults, and players, and I still remember the time some guy yelled at me for shoving creeps uncontested off one of our shrines instead of diving into a 1v4 on the other shrine
>>572278313>right now i get to play carry every game which i like.Yeah and so does your entire team, you just aren't smart enough to notice all the games that are lost just from bad team comp alone.
>>572278716zergy says team comp doesn't matter its all individual skill
>>572278686This basically never happens to me because I am incredibly strict with my muting. If the first sentence or two is anything besides a simple call its muted. I dont care about your terrible jokes or your whining after everydeath
>>572278853its true
>>572279236i agree. give lowkey W any draft you want and they'll be a random e6 team with a "meta" draft 100% of the time
>>572279180I'm pretty strict about it too but some retard making shit macro calls can singlehandedly tank a gameWe didn't do that urn fight because even though we had all players + all ults and their wraith just died and they were down 2 more ults, him saying it was a bad urn meant nobody else dove in and actually fought it so I had to just drop it. We got wiped the next fight and lost
>>572279368I could give them a losing draft, just 5 only spirit, ezpz
>>572277228calico was already right behind me and i saw ivy coming over and i assumed she would take the vent and juked more to the sidedidnt expect that webm to get a million replies desu lol
>>572278371>>572278452>>572278535I mean, i just alt tab out and ocasionally click back in to jump/shoot so i dont get kicked. Im not gonna waste my time on a game where were down 30k and the enemy has twice our kills. They've already won.
Where are the calico nerfs?
It anever feels worth it to do jungle in this game, pushing lanes almost always seems to be the better option.
>>572213737not a stun since you can move, delayed aoe cast that's extremely reactable, canceled by indomitable, makes you smaller so harder to hityou are just mad you got owned in boss pit and lack IQ
just a heads up every other hero shooter makes fun of deadlock
Reminder: YOU are not a pro, YOU cannot carry alone. Which means that 90% of your losses DO actually come from your teammates just being dogshit.
>>572280836Lanes give more gold. But the idea is to push your lane, then fuck off and jungle while your lane is pushed.
>>572280836yes, jungling is like the "I have nothing else to do" thing, but retards are attracted to it like flies on shit and grief games being afkthe team that actively hunts enemies/objectives is the one that wins in basically every rank beyond eternus because simply playing actively just cruise controls the game until you have a 50k lead. I cannot believe how stupid people are to prefer jungling... it's not even fun! Stooooop. I uninstalled yesterday cause it was so bad and unenjoyable coinflipping
>>572281117supposedly uninstalled but you're still here
>>572280965>every other hero shooter makesSo cape shit, and that one blizzard game wearing overwatche's skin suit? I actually think that if deadlock added an itemless mode with inherent gun/spirit scaling, kinda like no build fort night or somthing, it would rival original overwatch with how good it could be. The charecters/powers/movement is fun, but the moba part is just so......tolerably not fun.
>girl(?) gets on mic>russian Venator asks if she(?) is a little boy or a girl>girl(?) answers both, asks what he is>he says he is "ugly bastard">no response>he says "hentai">silence for a bit>"I think you're a pedophile">Russian desperately fumbles trying to explain himself, spills spaghetti>"You're weird, I'll mute you">He spends the rest of the game begging the team to tell her(?) to unmute him, and keeps trying to talk to her(?)Holy fuck that was funnyIn other news, you're visible inside those hiding rooms if you've got 3 stacks on Celeste
You can tell a game is dying when this place use to have inhouse games all the time but now there is barely any.>>572280836They need a designated jungle or at least force people into the tutorial so they understand jungle really isn't worth it over pushing lane.
Is the trick to ranking up to pick a hero with a low relative skill and win with them?I just lost my alchemist status even though I thought I was doing good today.
>>572281736I'm so glad I play on NAwest man
>>572282552She(?) sounded American, too. It happens quite a lot actually where I get people who sound American on comms here in Europe. Is matchmaking that lenient or is it just expats?
rate my remlarp62% wr btw
>>572281736You should've flirted with the girl boy
>start spectating to see how one of our lanes always goes 0/200 before 10 minutes>it's always melee into double kill>then they both zip boost to lane and try to melee moreparrying more in the lane is an instant win against some peopleif you get close and think "I could quick melee" then they thought the same thing and they're deadand you've won in souls and there's a good chance they sit in lane and be useless to their team all game because>gg ff team shit life is a fuck 2000 dead patrons
>>572277263nta but i feel fvcking dead inside when steamrolling a teamwhere's the competition and challengelike if i wanted to mop up bots, i'd go play bot matches>>572281736fellas be quirked up around the womyns
>>572282154the trick is not giving a fuck when you have no way of actually making a good, well rounded team comp before the game even begins.
>>572282834I don't know how to flirt I've only slaved away at video games my wohle life
>>572282834No thanks I'm not a pedo
>>572280965oh man my feelings are so hurt
>>572281736Why is it always Russians?
reminder: comebacks aren't possible because someone who feeds earlygame isn't going to magically improve lategame. just afk.
>>572283257Deadlock is a game for mature audiences, surely no underage person would play it
how'd lash get key player and not me...
Graves would be so easy to groom
>>572284694because he's the Lash
>>572285056wrong
>win by 50k souls at 20 minutesBRVTAL MOGGING
>>572285975Nothing like a good rape
How much do you think she grunts and coughs during sex?
>>572284694because graves players dont deserve anything
>>572286048drifter...
>>572285056She is already getting groomed by the lich, your going to have to wait in line.
>>572283201Sir, I'm trying to avoid my fourth "sorry I'm new" in a row today
>>572284694Well duhBecause he's The Lash
>My Team:good team comp with 2 supports, 2 tanks, 2 DPS>Their Team:4 DPS, 1 minor support, 1 tankIts kind of amazing how since nobody has classic lane roles the game just doesnt even try half the time which leads to horrific stompsthat OR you win every phase but lose extreme late game because their team genuinely just scales better with their ulti's which is always fun
the strongest gun carry of 2024 vs the strongest gun carry of 2026
>>572277115>obvious lossToo many comeback mechanics for you to know this.
>>572286984Ivy no... that's green face...
>>572287069the ONLY time you come back is after the 45 minute mark when their team starts throwing for no reason.I do NOT care to be in a stomp for 45 fucking minutes just to have a crumb of victory because thats annoying.Let me surrender then go to the next game.Sorry Yoshi but your "mechanics" suck ass and are frustrating for the losers, AND frustrating for the winners
>>572287069>Too many comeback mechanicsUrn is a win more mechanic and the souls scaling isint enough to matter when your behinde enough that you'd want to surrender.
Dude what if they added a weed hero?
>>572280836Jungle is the safe option but it's not the most profitable option
>>572288802poor guydoes a good mina cosplay and has an ARMY of trannies going "HE'S A CLOSETED TRANNY, HE'S GONNA GO ON HRT!!!"when he's like "bro you guys are annoying and im straight I just like cosplaying"
>Pocket on my team dies in the first minute>He redeems himself by going on a 20 killstreak and carrying usThank you hapa wasian...
>People regularly ask wtf is that buildMy item philosophy is complex
>>572289134okay... so wtf is the build then bro?
>>572289164Magic carpet Venator
>>572289164Sometimes I go monster rounds and regen in lane, hehe, yeah I'm a bit idiosyncratic.. Then.. Extra stamina.. Yeah... Also I never buy tank buster or heal bane only toxic bullets/crippling headshot, if I do melee I always get fleetfoot so I can double melee to feint parries, only venator/abrams also build veilwalker shadow weave, used to do marpet venator but it's not worth even for the meme.
r8 and h8
>echo shard venator>echo shard mirageI JUST WANT TO MOOOVE
why's it even called tankbuster if it doesnt DO anything against tanks? I genuinely thought it increases spirit damage vs how much HP you have but it just... doesnt. It's just a worse mercurial magnum
>wraith 24k dmg at 44 minTHESE PEOPLE ARE NOT HUMAN
Put the street brawl items in the normal game if a match lasts more than 40 minutes
>>572288898>homo does something gay and other homos want him to continue being gayhmm...
Do you even get vortex now on Dman with the door changes?Feels so fucking worthless now
just had a game where a victor had a massive tantrum after dying twice in lane and proceeded to throw by taking all of our camps and empty lanes before deliberately suiciding himself into the enemy lines.How many losses you reckon someone had to endure before committing themselves to throwing on queue?
>>572288802is that eskay?
>>572284694KP slightly higher maybe? Fewer deaths? MVP and key player algorithms are stupid.
>>572288898troons ruin everything and that faggot f1nn gave them reason to plausibly think any white dude who puts on drag will eventually troon out>>572292445mogs eskau tbqhwyf
>>572290458you are incredibly dishonest
I'm trying to get into shiv because I know he's mega tanky when he's all hopped up on rage.recommended builds?right now using this knife build for sustain
>>572258578>Playing potentially the bottom 1 character in the game.Hate to say anon, but you lost at character selectDumb teammates exist across all ranks, in this game there were dumb players on both teams, but theirs simply had more auto-pilot characters that get instant value from pressing 4.
>>572293095I suggested either having Vindicta's ulti stun when it hits, or changing her stake to a stun instead of a root and got told im retarded for even SUGGESTING such a thing on the Top 1% character
>>572293337Well those ARE bad suggestions. Her problem is that she's really easy to hard counter and turn into a permanent victim. When her kit gets going, it's extremely strong already, it just requires the enemy team to not bother ever countering her (and her hitting shots obviously).
>>572293337Vindicta has been shit since they nonsensically changed her ult back in January and no one ever talks about it, when they decided to change her scaling firerate to scaling gun damage it fully convinced me that they have no idea what to do with this character.
>>572289134Based metro maxxer
Wtf is paradoxes accent supposed to be?
>>572293909norwegian
>>572293909Scottish
>>572293909German
>>572268585Most people want to play with their food, with a select few wanting an actual even match. Beating the shit out of someone helpless is only fun if they're putting up a fight, but most stop enjoying themselves when their enemy just sits down and dies.In other words, they want you to entertain them, and they're mad that you're denying them their victory lap.
>>572293595I think the real issue is flight. Its just very binary, you shit on people with it or get shit on. Its also got the same problem as heals where its very strong in lane until the enemy can buy a counter
>>572293542I agree, but her problem is also shes a sniper character who benefits using her ulti.But her fucking ulti gives her a GIANT FUCKING LASER that the enemy can see AND a GIANT FUCKING SCOPE GLINT when she's using it.Anyone paying any attention can dodge the thing easily.I dont even know why this is a thing, the sniper character shouldnt need TWO tells when she's using her ultimate. You should play safe KNOWING she can use her ultimate to snipe you and kill you if your low HP...She also has no actually good escapes either.Literally all I use her ulti for is dealing damage during a team fight OR instakilling with it when they're low enough which is retarded and not what the ultimate or character was designed for at all.
>>572293337>>572293542These are all part of the same issue, they half-assed Vindicta's redesign.>Her problem is that she's really easy to hard counter and turn into a permanent victimVindicta was easy to counter, but even that was part of her design because by the time counter items came into play, she already done her job as a early game tempo/snowball character.They then tried to shift her into this weird half-carry and didn't adjust the rest of her kit or her stats to compensate. It's like they lost the idea of what Vindicta is supposed to be.>>572294470This.Flight is a very poorly designed skill, but that's only part of the issue.
>>572292913wrong just new to the game and indecisive
>>572294509>ultimate does 1 thing (damage) and has an execute>somehow dealing damage and executing people is "retarded and not what the ultimate was designed for"what the actual fuck are you talking about
>>572294690>They then tried to shift her into this weird half-carry and didn't adjust the rest of her kit or her stats to compensate. It's like they lost the idea of what Vindicta is supposed to be.agreed.most DPS have a stun or HARD CC like Haze's sleep, plus an ulti that does a fuckton of damage in an AOE making them good for teamfights.But Vindicta doesnt really have any effective CC or high damaging abilities.Her best teamfight ability is her crows and most of your team won't even notice their effect...Not only that but i've literally tested it.A Haze or Infernus or whoever else does good DPS can out damage a vindicta AT long range without buying sharpshooter.It's kind of insane that even at the height limit of the map Haze and Infernus can still out damage her.and adding rooftops she cant go on is dumb as fuck. They should at minimum do less damage then they already do so she can sit up there at a risk to herself like if she was in a teamfight to begin with
Why are you building Greena (Green Mina), Anon??????
>>572294690I dont even know how they could fix it, maybe have it give duration everytime you deal damage? That way you could just hide and it would expire quicker. Would be a straight nerf tho unless they made the dmg buff stronger to compensate
>>572295097The ultimate deals more damage the lower they are and has a charge to compensate.It's very much they intended the ultimate to be "line your shot up, and fire when ready to secure a kill".But if you do that, your fucked. You have a giant laser that shows where your aiming and a scope glint to show when your using it as well.So your better off just using your ultimate on them when they have 1 bar and instantly firing OR shooting them at half HP to secure the 4% damage increase when they die for an assist.Both ways to effectively get any benefit of her ulti is not what the ulti is designed to do.
>>572286205almost none despite being a smoker, but she does a lot of farting from having a trailer trash diet
>>572295267I think flight is her least egregious ability as a DPS.Her root does nothing and cant even work as an escape because they can still move and sprint in it which is dumb. So even IF you root them they're still moving towards you.Her crows basically do jack shit aside from the bullet resist which is the most important part.and as >>572295314has said her ultimate is either used for early engagement in a fight, or just instantly popping a rem whos running but in either case using it is insanely situation and your better off not using it 95% of the time.If she had more CC to do her job as the "pick character" she'd be in a better place then she is right now.
Ever since I switched to the Universal Support Build™ on every support I play my win rate on them has skyrocketed.The Universal Support Build™ is just rushing four slots of fucking disables ASAP and spamming them all game.I'm not sure I like this.
>>572295832>rushing four slots of fucking disables ASAP and spamming them all game.Moba support is so ass
>>572295267Honestly, I would rather if they reverted her back to her old design with some number tweaking. It was far more unique and interesting, Vindicta could be as bad as she wanted but she would still have her niche, her designed irrelevance past 15-20 minutes also twarted aimbotters, which are now more than ever an issue with the character.
>>572293909American.
>>572295832>stun people>they can't play>your team can playthis is bad?
>>572295832I play rem specifically so I can do this better(swap one active for echoshard)
>>572294509>>572293542I think Vindicta has three main problems.>Incredibly easy to counter because kit is built around her having near-or-actually permanent uptime on flight which can be broken several more times than she can defend against breaking it, so her power budget is heavily weighted towards an escape/spacing/vantage point ability that's actually shit in practice>"Sniper" character in theme and her "power fantasy" is racking up tons of stacks via her ult to deal big meaty shots from afar but her default build is a mid-range bullet hose that doesn't zoom in just like almost every other M1 hero>Ult is meant to be a finisher that lets her stack damage through skillshots at the right time from afar but in practice you mostly use it to killsteal from close to midrange through quickshots before its even fully charged They should rework flight entirely, like try something radical like making it a really big jump to reach rooftops so she can find angles and let her float by zooming in during it like Paradox's charge shot does. Redistribute more of her power budget away from it after since she can't in theory float immortal above morons in Arcanist and below who are too stupid to counter her - my personal wish would be for her right click to zoom in the way Assassinate does now and letting her fire slower, stronger shots in it all the time but still having to use the ult for the stacks/bonus spirit damage/etc.
>>572295143>>572295789I wouldn't downplay her kit, it is not weak.Crows are STRONGStake is VERY STRONGAn "execute" on charges at any range is also very useful in team fights, not "ultimate ability useful" but still useful.It's just that when you put it all together, it just doesn't make sense. Vindicta doesn't have the kit of a carry, strong counter-initiation, good farming, yadda yadda, so it's really bizarre to force her into that role.
>>572295832I play Silver specifically so I can do this
Man shiv feels so mindnumbingly weak if he's not at max rage and even then there are times I just get bursted down HARD.How do the big boys play him?In videos I see him casually taking on a group of heroes.tank build that focuses mostly on green investment and resists?
>>572296909They should just make her an assassin. Burst damage, some CC, and positioning tools all more cleanly fit one than a carry. Cut the stacks from her ult, rework flight somehow, and let her be a roaming spooky sniper that surprises you with a freight train to the dome and staking you to the floor.
>>572296909crows and stake are very weak compared to every other ability that DPS characters havebut im going to bed so i cant really talk numbersbuff vindicta, that is all.
>>572296943only way to have impact on silverhas there ever been a more overnerfed hero?
>>572295832hmmmweird!Take a support hero... and build them for support... and you get progress?So WEIRD!
>>572297286She needs a rework, number teaking won't do.Watch as people will start complaining about her deleting people in lane because they overbuffed her snipe damage, which is something they had to tone down some months ago.
>>572296775Yea the carbine was a bit off putting the first time because I was expecting a slow firing high damage thingThey could just give a gun similar to silvers but longer range, slow as shit and chunky. This would undoubtedly be worse for the carry role since its so firerate dependent but it would be more thematically fitting
>>5722969438 abilities not enough this guy needs 12
>>572296909ok but what if you used your ultimate that scales on kills to get kills instead of afk jungling?this is how I know this general is 99% shitters.
How come melee items aren't standard on victor considering how much time you spend in the enemy's face
>>572297636I just want more unique feeling guns in the game in general. Not every hero needs to be a bullet hose, give me more burst fire, semi-auto, or even bolt-action weapons and automatic guns with unique feel to them like Warden's gun has. More weird projectiles that do shit like bounce like Celeste has, or heroes with alt-fires in general.It's a TPS as well as a MOBA and for all the emphasis put on getting movement and ability feel right I think the shooting is a bit neglected in comparison.
>>572297636>>They could just give a gun similar to silvers but longer range, slow as shit and chunky>see vindicta on enemy team>buy rusted barrel, suppressor, juggernaut, plated armor first 4 itemsin silver's case it's not so bad since she has a burst ability and ult fires faster
>>572297887Kills will always be less consistent then farming. You basically throw the moment you play against non feeders
>>572297780i mean silvers spells are kind of shit so she only has like 4 in total value
>>572297887you can't "git gud" about vindicta anon she's objectively one of the most dogshit heroes in the game currently and is regularly in the bottom tiers.>ohh just get stacks bro, get more weapon damage and start killing shit you fucking idiotyeah right let me do that when she's fucking shit in all stages of the game and i have to killsteal my whole team to get enough to even begin making up for how badly they nerfed her default gun scaling to compensate for the ult
>>572286205I have a "no sex with crazy" policy, and she is eviler than Drifter, Seven and Haze combined (the fact that she sucks at crime does not mitigate it in the slightest).So we may never find out.
>>572297887>Roam on the slowest, squishiest character in the game against half a cast that can push one button to rape you, with your only protection being a gimmick of a skill on a 40 second cooldown that's a death sentence against anyone with a brain.I forget myself anon, you're right.
>>572293909a scot pandering to what an american thinks a scot sounds like
>>572297887>ok but what if you used your ultimate that scales on kills to get kills instead of afk jungling?retard, being bad a farming just makes the character worse at roaming because every character is shit when they're 10k behindlash and celeste can easily eat a camp on their way between lanes to not fall behind
Why would I ever build Support Rem when I could build Pillow Nuke Rem?
>>572299709Why build either when you could build lil niggas rem? They do lots of things...
>>572300054>>572300146
>Vindicta is soo weak bro yeah she can fly yeah she can kill you across the map yea she got cc but you need to buy counterspell to survive the rest of the game bro you gotta hit that counterspell broooooo
>>572295314Yeah that's the lame part about Vindicta, she is the sniper character but you half the time you are better off using the snipe to "mark" people so you can get a stack.
>>572301109no you don't get it you can't just shoot people.
>Just found out you can que for bot matches with randos>do it because the last 20+ real matches had been dogshit>its the the most fun/chill game of deadlock ive ever had>positive k/d>not down 30k gold at 15min>dont feel like im gonna kmsI think i found the good version of deadlock.
>>572301807I always encourage friends to play and I play bot matches with them and I have fun. I don't play with pubs though, bot teammates too.I'm Ascendant.
>no greens Vindicta dies to one barrel + crackshotlol
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>>572290667Echo shard mirage is good what are you talking about>>572289549The day magic carpet gets nerfed is the day I drop 4 divisions. It's a good buy on more heroes than you realize.
