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Decapitated Edition

Previous fated encounters: >>572030951

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
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>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
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>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

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>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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mew mew's massive cock will save us all
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JARONA
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This useless fucking faggot is once again not going to do SHIT until it's way too late.
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DESSTER THE DOELESTER
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Hot
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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Don't mind me, just leaking the boss for chapter 6.
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tenna sex
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>>572042905
the canon wife.
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>"the white pen of hope, whateva' happened there..."
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hey remember to cool yourself off
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no more arguments about trans people. please god, no more
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>>572042905
Posting my crackpot theory again to be rated. TL;DR deltarune/undertale is a nested narrative that's meta on multiple levels. There will be three main types of routes with six in total that need to be completed, each type will involve destroying a boundary in this nested narrative. With an ultimate route after all this which will destroy the boundary between the fiction and reality of deltarune/undertale.

Routes in depth

First routes
>Normal route: Base game bullshit where you shut off the dark worlds and say goodbye, I'll miss you, nothing ever happens, doesn't even count. Neutral endings basically.
>Normal route + secrets: will involve getting all the eggs and shadow crystals, these items are known to blend the boundary of the dark world and light world. This results in the synthesis of the dark and light worlds and a new kumbaya world lets all love lain and have fun forever yay yay yipee

Second route
>Weird route: Attempting to destroy the boundary between the game program and the actual world of deltarune to break free, but falling short and just destroying the boundary between deltarune and undertale. Learning how they're connected, more about sans' connection, and more about gaster and co but still not everything. Maybe we fuck up the world of deltarune while outside it and undertale is a ~weird~ version of it? We'll be outside of the deltarune/undertale game programs but still within the fictional reality toby fox made that encompasses them. Possibly inside the game launcher itself instead of the game world. Closer to Gaster but not all the way. Where as gaster is inbetween fiction and reality, given how he possesses toby's twitter account and made the deltarune launcher. Dess might also be inside the launcher and not all the way out where gaster is. This ends with us failing to truly break free and just trapped again but in undertale.

1/2
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>>572043017
*wives
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The fuck happened to the previous thread?
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continuing the knight posts
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I made this myself. Please rate.
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Hometown's apparent isolation from the rest of the world isn't because the whole thing was always a simulation, it's because Gaster's fuckery has turned the entire town into a Room In Between
To the rest of the world Hometown is just nonexistent at the moment
Asriel will never show up because when he arrives home there'll just be nothing where Hometown was, the street leading to it just skips into the next town
Unless Azzy thinks to walk back and forth...
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FLOW-ER MAN
FLOW-ER MAN
WITH HIS HEART
IN THE SAND
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AAAAAAAAAA THIS WAS SO HARD
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Why is it so common for undertale fangame creator to just cancel their game and decide to ramdomly make a non-undertale fangame knowing full well it wont sell well or get popular unlike their previous work ?
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squishing ralsei's toe beans
nuzzling his cheeks
[[Data Removed]]
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I NEED CHAPTER 5 ON SPRITERS RESOURCE NEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The air didn't crackle with freedom.
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not sure if its recency bias but i think i had the most fun fighting her than i did any of the other secret bosses
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>>572043081
my joke was too funny
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>>572043045
stop forcing them into every fucking piece of media ffs. You're even overwriting other lgbt reps like femboy ralsei
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I haven't seen anyone talking about the biggest weirdest thing in chapter 5 yet.
Why the fuck did they start calling the leak a "beach"?
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As was foretold, he holds the scalding pouch and does it sans recompense.
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BRAVO TOBY
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>>572043081
Imagine a world where your thread never existed
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>>572043030
There were actually people that didn't believe "the feather lets you jump"
lol
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Let's argue about Darkners being fat
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>>572043002
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I kinda wanna replay Chapter 5 already
No other chapter made me feel this way...
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>>572043032
i'm fucking trying
hard to do when it barely gets below room temperature at night and the heat pump i bought still won't be here for another four days
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ENTER
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>>572042905
Hooman!
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>>572043092
I hope anon comes back and draws more
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If fave doesnt get a tattoo, then no one gets a tattoo
*bad guy theme.ogg*
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...Does the weird route reallt get abortes if you drown?
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Yay we aren't dead
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>>572043065
2/2

Third routes
>sword/weirder/aborted route?: Truly breaking free. Potentially involves multiple aborted weird route runs at different spots and doing certain things like getting the twisted sword or other odd stuff to get gaster's attention and genuinely break the game on several levels. My guess is this, you can only abort weird route at three spots, chapter 2, chapter 4, and chapter 5. One for each save slot. You also need three slots for each ending before these ones. Normal neutral, normal secret, and weird. You'll do those three first. Then there will be three unique aborted routes, the sword route being the one for aborting in chapter 2 and eventually fusing the ring with the pure crystal. We don't know what the weirder route for aborting chapter 4 and 5 will be yet though.

The bridge
>Finish the game with the normal neutral, normal secret, and weird routes, one in each save slot.
>Finish the three weirder routes that are aborted weird routes, the first being the sword route. One in each save slot.
>Deltarune demo had weird stuff with the save system involving copying files and attempting to erase files but backing out that all gave weird dialogue
>Do some esoteric save slot shenanigans inbetween these steps and or after that which will lead to the final true route

Finale
>true route: Uhhhhh, no idea the specifics but it'll be an ultimate conclusion to everything and involve destroying the boundary between the fictional world of deltarune/undertale and our world, which is where gaster exists inbetween, so we'll also be freeing him so to speak and learning more about the game. Or maybe the point is we already figured everything out by the time we find him and freeing him is just a cherry ontop.
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Which Undertale/Deltarune character would play Space Station 13?
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>>572039680
>>572040175
>>572040710
ralsei isn't gonna troon out
the pink dress is a reference to tomodachi life, and he's fine if you tell him no to it
the pink and blue coupon has the colors of kris, which this chapter shows he loves
flowery calling him princess is him mocking ralsei
the "they" in his title is referencing him and susie, since she also has the same title
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>>572043092
good shit
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>>572043081
I guess I messed up somehow
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>>572043120
took me 4 tries, and even then I was just chugging all my items. I dunno it gets to the last phase and my eyes just start glazing over and I don't care to dodge anything.
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>>572042964
Me first, though.
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>>572042905
I NEED sex with Mew Mew NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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ralsei womb tattoo...
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>>572043159
lakes can have beaches, dumdum
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>>572043261
It doesn't get aborted, it played the jingle of no return in Chapter 4 for a reason.
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>>572043348
Very cute Seth
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>>572043270
what about the deer and human in the lake?
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>>572042905
Playfully teasing Maddie by playing keep away with her head and kissing her the whole time!
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WHAT THE FUCK IS ONE THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT LAKE? IS ONION OK!? IS HE ALRIGHT!?
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>>572043205
Tenna is a gorgeous man at a healthy weight and a delicious silhouette
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>>572043259
most likely will
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>>572043045
Sorry anon
/v/'s decided they have to stay here to tell us how mad they are and they REFUSE to go and do something else
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>>572043376
Brother that shit is pure grass. That is not a beach.
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I don't care what genitals Maddie has she can have a pussy because of the body or a dick because she's trans or nothing because she's a doll, all I want is for her to grope me and make me feel uncomfortable and unsafe while pretending she doesn't hear me when I mumble "stop..." under my breath knowing I can't do anything about her sexual harassment due to the fact she's much stronger than me (able to carry those giant bombs with just one hand) I bet she could pin me down and do literally anything she could ever possibly want to me without me being able to resist at all.
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In the Spamton fight, we see Kris’ anxiety about the fact that without the SOUL, he cannot survive, and that he therefore has no freedom or autonomy. He is born to serve a specific purpose. The union between Kris and the SOUL is symbolized by the union between Spamton and the NEO body (which is grey before Spamton takes control of it btw). In the Mew Mew fight, we see the possibility of agreement between body and soul. Maddie is so harsh to the body, and so critical of its choice to date, because she is scared of the body finding someone else. She is scared of losing it. The end to the conflict is mutual understanding and organic unity. The soul gets what the soul wants, and the body gets what the body wants. We listen to each other’s needs. This is true FREEDOM. Notice that the Maddie soul is greyed out, btw.

The Mew Mew fight is as meaningful and revealing as Spamton’s. We just need to look at it more carefully. Even if you don’t agree with everything I’ve said here, I think I’ve made it clear that there is SOMETHING to it. I’d appreciate it if someone could help me think about how this connects to the concept of lost or failed dreams.
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I'm worried about the contents of the next two chapters, bros...
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So it's for certain that Dess is NEVER showing up in ANY form, right? The Knight is someone else.
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>>572043081
It took a weird route
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>>572043429
Wait 2 more years please and thank you
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>>572043429
You could say onionsan is a goner
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It just hit me that Flowery and Chapter 5 in general are real. These are things that are real and exist and I played it.
And I loved it. I’ll probably have this reaction for the next month, or until chapter 6 is out.
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>>572043465
Kris......
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Spamton back tattoo…
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>>572042905
I like to imagine that Maddie sounds like Don Patch from the English localization of BoBoBo when she gets angry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8UnlErFXkI
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>>572043206
Kris would not survive getting dragged into Alexsriel's bullshit
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>>572042973
if i were a better artist, id have this done already
god i love kress content but i dont make enough
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>>572043429
Get it together, anon!!!!
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Noelle is the one who forced Kris
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>>572043261
While it doesn't play the jingle, it triggers a flag that means you're no longer on 'Side B'.
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>>572043429
There's a dark world at the bottom of the lake. We're going there in normal chapter 7, hence the skip.
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>>572043404
>>572043429
>>572043486
Both Kris and Noelle are the knight.
See
>>572043102
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>>572042964
you mean mew mew's cute, girly, modestly sized cock
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>>572043261
"No"
It doesn't play the jingle that normally happens when you abort the weird route and return to the normal route, and Noelle remains assertive with her sneering faces.
Making it across the lake is the Weirdest Route, but as soon as you Equip the thornring in her room you're not able to undo what has been done.
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>>572043017
Kris, if you fumble this, I'll fucking kill you, I swear to god.
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>>572043468
Just realized I misgendered Kris the entire time in this post sorry it wasn’t intentional I admit I see them as AMAB pretty strongly
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>>572043139
Toby is a hack
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Absolutely fucking POUNDING "seth" until she drops the retarded gender shit and realizes she's just a smelly nerd woman in need of a good fucking.
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>>572043465
Consider, swappable parts. One day she wears the dick, another day the pussy
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rank the secret bosses in terms of how fun they were to right
the correct ranking is mewmew > gerson > jevil > knight > spamton btw
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For all of the things I wish Ch5 did different I applaud Tony for not making a reference to Friend Inside Me
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>>572043143
It's still Spamton for me, his theming is just too insanely good. But I loved 5 and really enjoyed MewMew.
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>>572043102
Retarded nonsense theory. You should genuinely be ashamed
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I loved how gay this chapter was.
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>>572043541
Kris is also the Shattered Rose, not Noelle. People have been pushing the wrong victim for Weird Route for a long time.
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>>572043275
Sounds pretty interesting
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>>572043429
Onionsan has been processed in the meat factory
I'm sorry, anon
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>>572043285
i already said I can think of alternate explanations for everything that can be pointing to trans ralsei, but its curious how you skipped the most important bits which are the two whole conversations between him and flowery abt ralsei hiding himself and needing to believe in himself, "the impossibility"
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Don't know if I'd agree Noelle is the Knight but Noelle is definitely the one in UNUSED
>Thank you
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>>572043108
noelle wants to go "somewhere no one has gone before" and suggests the other side of the lake
in a normal reality plenty of people will have been to every part of the shore of that lake, depending on the size it wouldn't be weird to walk the entire perimeter of it, there might even be another town on the other side
treating it as a place completely unknown to everyone indicates there has always been something weird about hometown
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>>572043461
High tide.
...maybe
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you DID get this on your playthrough right? because if you didn't that means you muted him earlier and you wouldn't even consider such a cruel thing, right?
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>>572043429
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>>572043620
kris already fumbled they say they don’t like her lol
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>>572043227
MY KING.
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>>572043646
Knight > Spamton > Jevil > Gerson >>>> actual dogshit
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>>572043626
>smelly
>woman
seth is a FLOWER
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>>572043227
HERO.
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FRIEND dealing damage based on your inventory prices means the way to defeat it in the real fight in chapter 6-7 is filling your inventory with dogdollars, which is genius
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>>572043102
Weird Route is a stable timeloop of corrupting Noelle into the Knight and getting her out of bounds so she can loop back to the beginning of everything.
Normal Route breaks the cycle.
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>>572043285
>Ignoring the narrative of Flowery challenging Ralsei surrendering their narrative and autonomy to Kris as a bad thing
>Ignoring the point of their development so you can continue to goon to porn which somehow would be ruined by they/them pronouns instead of he/him
Retard
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>>572043778
what the fuck are you talking about? He literally says he's serious about her, and if you don't you get a black reset screen.
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>people are still arguing on the old thread
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>>572043680
I just realized that "Shattered Rose" is a reference to both the current ThornRing equip animation and the unused one.
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>>572043748
I muted him because I thought I'd be able to undo it myself but I figured it out
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The Holiday's strike me as the kind of women to be hardcore squirters.
Laying down a towel is a requirement every time one of them jorks it.
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>>572043125
Give 3 examples?
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Idk man, I feel like the magic of undertale and early deltarune has completely faded.
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>>572043748
Why is Ralsei turning into Susie.
When people said he'd be trans, I thought they meant girly dresses.
Is he gonna become retarded and purple
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>>572043429
Gaster's goon cave
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>>572043623
its ok to have eyes anon. i liked your analysis. if I could add to it, the song's lyrics seem to be foreshadowing future developments as well more directly. sounds like it implies soul and kris seperating, vessel saving kris, and then them switching souls again to do some epic conclusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-oalNlJyNw
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>>572043429
WE ATE HIM.
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>>572043748
I muted him because I thought I could unmute him right after...
I wonder why he didn't just do this while muted and just squirmed after I failed the puzzle the first time.
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>>572043815
>anon thinks all flowers smell good
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I’m so glad that Noelle is my favorite character, because that shit was crazy awesome. Showed off the weird route to a friend who doesn’t know much about deltarune, and he was amazed by it and started asking a ton of questions.
Showing this kind of stuff off to someone who’s entrenched enough in games and other media to get it base level, but doesn’t know much about the actual thing is kind of amazing.
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>>572043959
Stop killing me with gross nature
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>>572043626
>spitting IMAGE_ of an enby faggot foid that wants to be special so calls herself an it to feel included into the alphabets
seth is a woman anyone that disagrees is delusional or gay
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>>572043468
For me it's still weird that Kris didn't react after the Mew Mew fight.
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>>572043874
Pretty sure the reason why Toby changed it is because it went live and he saw peoples' reactions and he was like "wait hang on no guys it's kris getting hurt not noelle wait wait wait hang on a minute"
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>>572043881
FennekinFox proven right yet again
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for me, it's seth
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>>572043626
thanks but i'm a guy though
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>>572043468
>>572043623
The secret bosses are all Kris' hidden character arc that lets them process and work through their issues to become a better person and the hero the story needs to save the world from the Roaring. This is the reason you need to get all the crystals, to get the good ending.
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>>572043623
You didn't do anything wrong. He/him has been the correct linguistic construct to use for a human with no specified sex for the past 600 years.
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>>572043959
Well you're not gonna put a rafflesia in a fucking bouquet
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>>572043626
thats a male
>>572043856
it literally would ruin the gooning if ralsei wasn't a boy. he is hot because he is a boy. its simple.
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>>572043156
>You're even overwriting other lgbt reps like femboy ralsei
There's a reason a swath of the rest of the flags really don't like trans people. Other than the whole "Bunch of men trying to get into women's spaces thinking lesbians will fuck them now" stuff.
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>>572043962
>>572043963
wheres the pink colored cock
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>>572043859
Rundown?
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>>572043159
Retcons
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Greenbros where we at
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Is anything outside of the town even real? The town doesn't have Internet, but it presumably did, and Toriel say mention driving to pick Asriel up. But that's strange, since Noelle seems to not have gone beyond the lake herself when she could've easily gone off by herself? Is Asriel real? Are these facets of the outside just conjured up memories of what it looks like? Simulation theorim...
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>>572044067
True and based on both accounts.
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>>572044001
she is but i want that purple pussy so ill play along
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>>572043468
the lyrics also have a Pluey-tier Roaring reference and what unironically sounds like Dess Voice leaking out like Spamton
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SOMEBODY, is the knight.
Who is it? Post me your theories.
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>>572044005
>"We ripped Berdly off the hospital toy!"
>actually Kris
>"We deflowered Noelle!"
>actually Kris
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>>572044004
It ended a hell of a lot better than Spamton's did. At best, you'd have gotten relief, at worst, conflict another character picks up on.
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>>572044025
seth to kris:
>YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN YUM BRAIN
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>>572044102
If you turn mewmew down in the dating scene she pulls out some dark bomb that causes a black screen that says reset.
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>>572041845
>>572042858
is it hotter to bottom out in her or to have her fill you up?
She'd probably "like" it more if she was the dominant one but how does her tsun compare to her dere?
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Cutie Mew Mew is currently beating Flower Man in youtube views
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>>572043156
there is a huge problem of lgbt ideologues not recognizing femboys as valid. it is probably because historical record shows the border between a femboy and a trans girl is not that clearly defined, so they feel the need to throw rocks at each other in order to not worry that they're on the wrong side of it. its such a shame.
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>>572043486
It's been certain for the past 5 years that she's gonna show up same as Asriel did in Undertale.
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Jaru was half right when he said Mew Mew was the knight
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>>572044097
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just imagine it being pink I guess
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>>572044148
Weird Route Noelle migrating save slots
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>>572043962
Sigh...fine.
*unzips dick*
>>572044186
It also plays grandpasemi.ogg for some reason.
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>Why don't we do... "Something crazy?"
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>>572043859
No?
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>>572043959
That flower is red with white specks (and flies). Seth is PURPLE.
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>>572044138
>he still thinks UNUSED is Dess
Oh no no no
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Omg if i have to endure another second of this movie
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>>572043896
I mean that bit is just confirmation that he CAN fuck up puzzles just like Flowery
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>>572042991
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>>572044067
Still has the same body and a dick.
Being this butthurt about pronouns and a character having agency (this is a good thing) instead of being (You)r slave is retarded.
Ralsei is not (You)r puppet to use as you wish. That is what the narrative is trying to tell you. Ralsei is a person who deserves respect and the ability to make their own choices and actions.
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>>572043710
in the first conversation, flowery refers to ral with male terms. later on in the chapter, he refers to ral with male terms even after he called him princess. if you actually care about ralsei past using him for your agenda you would know that his whole thing is growing into himself and not just being a tool for the prophecy. gender simply doesn't factor into it

there's also this entire item. if flowery genuinely thought ral was a heckin' tranny then why in the world does he call him a guy/prince so many times
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>>572043653
>>572043143
Either her or spamton
She certainly has the most unique attacks out of everyone though
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>>572044117
represent
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>>572044216
Tobey should've had someone actually singing it, adding vocals makes the song so fucking good
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>>572043646
Hmm, it's been quite a bit since I fought the first two so I'm not sure if my ranking is accurate. Also I suck ass at dodging so the Knight, Gerson, and Mew Mew were more so endurance tests for me
Jevil = Spamton ≥ Eram ≥ Gerson (special mention) = Knight > Mad Mew Mew
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>>572043859
>>572044102
>>572044186
MICHAEL is always at your humble service.
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>>572044138
these lyrics are wrong lol. thats not the wiki is it?
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>have yet to see a single susiefag here post chapter 5
Holy shit Toby managed to get this site to hate Susie
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>>572043383
>>572043556
>>572043606
I've got such an ominous feeling about chapter 6...
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>>572043848
inb4 the timeloop preserve's the world while the normal route leads to it's end. Resulting in Susie having to come to terms with the idea that her dream of eternity unchanging is corrupted by the costs of what maintaining it demands.
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>>572043959
ZAMN, the Ball Game flower smells like THAT?
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>>572043896
Remember when he was crying saying he'd do all the puzzles and and all the battle himself if he had too, he just wants Susie to have a fun time and not have to think about anything else, and meanwhile Flowery is telling her secrets about about the true nature of everything(she's too stupid to care about the implications of the video game UI existing around her though so it was ok)
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>>572044148
Pic related.
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>>572044321
back to your containment thread
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>>572044005
Toby originally wanted it to be Noelle deflowering Kris, but changed his mind when he learned zoomers were saying "cracked" which is more gender neutral.
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i struggled more with that pumpkin thing in 4 than i did against maddie
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>>572044339
can you go back to posting mew mew and fuck off
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>>572044397
I love Susie still. I’m just more focused one figuring out what the fuck is going one in the story.
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>>572043856
His identity problem is about being a darkner, not a tranny
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>>572044397
Susiefags are smart enough to stay away from shitty early Chapter release threads
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Maybe if Kris wasn’t a FUCKING PUSSY none of this would’ve happened
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>doing chapter 4 for my weird route save
>everything is just better in every way than chapter 5
SIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHH
I really hope Chapter 4 doesn't end up being the best the game ever gets
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>>572044321
Who the fuck is that?
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Noelle raping Kris makes me really happy.
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>>572044117
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>>572044378
*Resisted the temptation of MICHAEL.
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>>572044138
>Massacre the world, now let's sink down underwater
>It's so cold here...
B R U H .
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>>572044117
always here
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>>572043230
cute hoomans
i haven't been here in ages, did you kris post as well?
>>572043227
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>>572044341
he does that because it's rude to out someone before they're ready
like i don't like trans ralsei either but you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think toby set up all this foreshadowing on accident
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>>572044465
>struggling against fucking Jackenstein
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>>572044306
it could be Asriel
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>>572044447
Always bet on every man.
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>>572044119
>Is anything outside of the town even real?
Fuck no. The big twist is going to be that the bunker is a facility made by an MIB organization who are containing the monsters. It's a Cabin in the Woods style metaphor for the writers and how their actions are all in service of appeasing the audience. The Roaring isn't actually the apocalypse, it's just the end of the story.

There, that's my schizo theory.
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>>572043748
he turned into a platform for me
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so toby's fox claim that he's "neutral" about lgbt stuff was a lie after all, huh
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So WHY exactly did the field of hopes and dreams appear in the Flower Shop Dark World and the Chapter 1 Dark World?
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>>572044321
STAY OUT FAGGOT
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>>572044490
I was you 3 hours ago, with 3 and 4
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>>572043623
No one cares about misgendering "Kris"
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Did WR Noelle and Kris noclip into fucking Hell?
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>>572043606
What happens to Berdly if you abort the weird route after snowgraving him but before reequipping the ring in Noelle's room? Does anyone mention him during the festival?
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>>572044339
If Ralsei wasn't my puppet how come he's smokin' herbs now?
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>>572044321
Kek

That's a good one
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>>572044216
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>>572044117
she was chill
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>>572044559
you're bending yourself into knots to justify what you want and it's cringe
he's not going to be trans, it would be cheap and lazy, plus nobody really likes trannies
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>>572044397
I am more worried about her than ever actually
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>>572043859
at the break scene it’s revealed that no kris wasn't serious
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>>572044471
and mettaton's (and mewmew's) problem is about getting a solid body, not a tranny
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LMAO Jackbox anon how long did you spend making that?
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>>572044339
you know that people will like start drawing him with breasts right? I was there for bridget, I'm here right now for Jax. As for all your other garbage, this is still a fictional story and I still really love ralsei as a boy, so I'd be sad if that way of drawing him dies down.
>>572044341
>if you actually care about ralsei past using him for your agenda
oh no its retarded. spoiler alert, i don't want him to transition, i'm just not playing with my eyes closed and brain off, and have to acknowledge its a possibility.
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>>572044049
2016's effect on human brains needs to be studied
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>>572044580
I wish writers would stop hating every second of writing stories without pondering on the higher truth of it. Like it's not that deep bro.
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>>572044613
Pretty mysterious huh
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>>572044560
i two shot this bitch and saw another anon say the same thing earlier so im allowed to question why you fucks sucked so hard
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>>572044683
did you not read my post
i don't like it, i do think it's cheap and lazy, i'm just not in denial over what's coming
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What did the Japs think about the overtly Japanese chapter
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My ancestors...
What did they see?
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Man, remember when people said Weird Route was bad because you’re “forcing heteronormativity”?
lol.
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>>572044148
It’s still Rudy the knight was very active in starting the roaring until Rudy got hurt
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>>572044661
Flowerybros...is a flower really that useless?
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>>572044117
Greenbros are like Green herself, they don’t say much but they’re around
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>>572043205
I want to give Flowery a lot of high nutrient soil
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>>572044148
I'm fully convinced it's Noelle now
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>>572044784
because I met her at hour 8 of the uninterrupted binge play session
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I am 100% convinced that simulation theory is real and anyone saying otherwise is huffing massive amounts of copium.
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>>572044339
you're right, his not your puppet who you can project you tranny fantasies onto
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>>572044784
in my case, it was small bombs and constantly fumbling the tube sections. i got a hang of the tube eventually, but never the small bombs
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>>572043465
this man knows what quality is
>>572043646
mew>spamton>gerson>knight>jevil
could maybe switch mew and spamton
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>>572043741
So how are we thinking Susie reacts coming back to the lake a few moments after they're both gone under and finding neither of them? Cause I expect toby to just gloss over all that cause the soul will have not been there to observe the reactions.
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>>572043876
The Holidays dont piss themselves
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>>572044148
It's Papyrus. It's why we never see him. He's too busy.
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>>572044117
My favorite flower person of the bunch easily
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>>572044716
>you know that people will like start drawing him with breasts right?
they've always done that
>and have to acknowledge its a possibility.
it's not. not even a little bit. he is having a crisis of identity, but there's no real evidence that it's related to gender; all evidence given so far is easily explained as something else, and ties back into themes that are actually relevant for ralsei (the whole darkner vs lightner situation, the prophecy)

>>572044807
you're obviously falseflagging
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>>572044716
Ralsei has been drawn with tits since day one basically.
He/Him boys are allowed to have boobs it's the big 2026.
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>>572044728
Aqua is so fucking adorkable, uuuuu.
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>>572044935
Squirt isn't piss
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>>572044893
same (real)
next reason
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>>572044829
>the weird route is the vessel route
Kino
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>>572044832
>>>>heteronormativity
this is just reality tho? If it weren't society would literally collapse from no one reproducing.
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>>572044473
Characters like Kris really get on my nerves. It's this Peter Parker harem protag shit. Kris has all these baddies all over their dick, and they have the gall to be a total bitch about it. Fuck OFF. Again, if they fumble with Maddie, I will fucking kill them. Got no more patience for this shit.
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>>572044850
this thinking is still retarded the knight was late to every darkworld
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>>572044784
G-gomenaisorry....i kept getting hit...
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>>572043896
>>572043748
Susie and Ralsei are both pieces of gaster's lost child, they will unite
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>>572043285
We won't be free of Trans Ralsei sloppers until 2027 and I hate it
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>>572044826
seconding this, i want to know
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>>572043896
he said he'd do this last chapter, remember?
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>>572043627
To molest and rape me, she uses her dick, to cheat on me with other people, she uses her pussy, wow, I am now enlightened anon thank you!
>>572044925
>>572043962
>>572044242
>>572043963
Beautiful stuff being a fan of her before the chapter released was probably one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life...

These threads are still unusable garbage I see but the Flowery and Maddie posts are the hidden gems inside the piles of trash, I love you all I'd be bestfriends with ALL of your dads.
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>>572043748
Him seething as I solved it was worth it, but did feel like kicking a puppy so I felt bad.
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>>572044465
>>572044784
The gameplay varies so much that I don't think the bosses even really test the same skills. People seem to think Mew Mew is either the easiest shit ever or one of the hardest fights so far, which makes sense since you're mostly just playing bomberman for a lot of it

I died to Jackenstein a few times but that was because I thought it actually had a timer and kept freaking out
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>>572044934
kris' body will wash up on the shore
but not noelle's, she made it to the deepest dark under the lake
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>>572044117
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is the guitar that plays during Noelle's weird route scene on Spotify? I can't find it
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>>572044339
kill yourself tranny
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>>572044995
Anyone draw these two fucking Kris yet
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>>572043962
source?
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>>572044892
So she’s just pretending she thought the cyber world is a dream?
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>>572044829
>>572045007
BUSTIN' OUTTA CHAPTER 7 SIDE B LIKE
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>>572045018
>Kris has all these baddies all over their dick
do they?
>noelle likes susie
>susie likes noelle
who wants kris?
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>>572044706
making what
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>>572044705
he tells you he likes his face and his voice. he likes who he is, not his role
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>>572043227
MY FUARKING HERO
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>>572045189
Berdly and Ralsei.
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>>572045149
just this rn.
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>>572044471
No anon you don't get it. EVERY THING IS A TROON ALLEGORY. There was not a single body conscious theme before trannies.
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>>572045189
Mew Mew and the cactus I guess
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>>572044945
>>572044986
you're right but they'll do it more / only do that. artists who used to do him without will start doing them, etc.
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>>572043856
what ugly art holy shit
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>>572044216
raping kris's tight little hole while mew mew fucks their mouth
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>>572044716
People have already been drawing Ralsei with breasts. Same with Bridget.
There's still Bridget and Ralsei content that comes out that's flat.
You are complaining about grammar.
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>>572044321
context?
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>>572045189
The greatest pedophile in fiction of course?
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>>572044784
Bruh I really don’t play vidya besides this one I got stuck on flowery! jevil took like 10 hours
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>>572045254
No the two Mews
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>>572043962
god I wish that was me (i'd prefer to be mewmew but I mean, I guess I wouldn't say no to getting my dick sucked)
>>572043963
also incredible
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>>572044732
I mean, have you SEEN online discourse and how people tend to interact with media? It's hard not to hate being a creator when your audience acts like a bunch of drooling psychos all the time. Hell, just look at these threads. I'm certain Toby would've stopped ages ago if the UT/DR franchise didn't make absolute BANK.
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>>572044909
Nah I think it's more a game-within-a-game deal. Someone, maybe Gaster, built Deltarune ontop of a previously existing game.
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>>572044560
>>572045116
>I died to Jackenstein a few times but that was because I thought it actually had a timer and kept freaking out
Same. I thought YOUR TAKING TOO LONG was actually a timer and not based on position so I kept rushing too much.
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>>572045265
Glad you finally agree.
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I want to see Flowery meet Papyrus.
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>>572043864
Let them stay there so that we might have some type of peace even if minimal
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>>572044117
best edition this chapter bar none
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>>572043962
NOT ON THE CARPET!!!!!!!!!
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Buckle in everyone the next YEAR will be exclusively trans ralsei discourse.
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A plappin commencin
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>>572044447
does everyman even appear in ch5?
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>>572045326
Did you improve after grinding him that much
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>>572045094
>These threads are still unusable garbage
when are they not
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>>572045394
Damn, I didn't noticed this. Green is so cool.
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I would love a troon that looks like this, but sadly all troons are autistic incels who only want women, or men who look like women.
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>>572044216
>Kris dresses up like their girlfriend for a double date
CUTE
U
T
E
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>>572045274
>artists who used to do him without will start doing them, etc.
no they won't. artists who love ralsei enough to draw him regularly actually understand the character and know the trans shit is a total misread only projecting troons could come up with. and again, nobody really likes mtfs
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>>572044832
Noelle was forcing Kris to her Festival King.
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>>572045316
>Kris
>possibly with a pussy
Not even the biggest tomboy, one-of-the-bros, you know is like Kris.
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love how Toby will do anything except flat out adding an option in the settings to make the fights easier
by that I mean at this point I'd prefer a difficulty slider if it means he stops nerfing perfectly fine fights, tell the normies with skill issues to go turn on baby mode
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>missed the ralsei dress scene
savefile: bricked
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>>572044471
it could be that or it could also be a tranny thing, i give it like 50/50. im considering the possibility of being disappointed by not burying my head in the sand.
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>>572045316
trannies are vile
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who we fuckin?
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>>572045094
>>572045480
It'll cool down after a while. It always gets like this with each new chapter.
>>572045519
I don't know any guy like Kris.
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>>572045553
>not exploring every single inch
Skill issue.
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>>572045553
>Got the Ralsei dress scene
My cockis: Bricked.
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>>572045316
Not sure if Mew Mew dicking down lolis is going to become a regular thing but I'm fine with it
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I wish the path to the chapter 5 secret boss was as trippy and ominous as the chapter 3 path.
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>chapter 6 will take place in the bunker dark world
>ends with chapter 7 transitioning directly to the "deepest dark" under the whole town, not sealing the bunker fountain or returning to hometown/castle town at all
>side b skips all that by noclipping through the bottom of the lake, straight to the deepest dark
y/n
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Why is Blue Black?
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>>572045265
get xer flat, concave ass
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>>572045305
That's Greene
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>>572044784
>why you fucks sucked so hard
Come on, how can you look at this and NOT want to suck her hard?
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>>572045462
Oh definitely I two shot spamton neo and it plays into the determination theme better if you actually struggle a bit
But then I didn’t get all the chapter 3 recruits and I really don’t want to fight the knight again
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>>572045519
The boys is gender neutral you didn't play the game?
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>>572045357
If Deltarune is Tenna Quest, what game is Mantle, and which game is Manhole?
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>>572045295
Pic rel. There is nothing stopping Ralsei art that'd flat from coming out now that they use they them pronouns. Or if they use she her pronouns in the future. ^^
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>>572045659
why not
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>>572045316
>lying about kris' sex to make trannies look worse because none of you shitbags care about boys
sad
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>>572045613
CALLING DIBS ON GREEN
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>>572045414
Its bridget all over again. We cant have SHIT these days
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>>572045149
there's one of kris fucking her and the two frotting
no DP on kris though I think
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>>572045704
he's a male with a penis and the they/them shit is just to appease ugly trannies
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>>572045613
aqua and orange
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>>572045430
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>>572044724
It split people into factions, the people frothing at the mouth over the "trannies" legitimately think they're fighting some kind of evil menace. Ironically it's more of a mental illness than they claim being trans is. It's not like this kind of thing didn't exist before 2016, but after the it became some kind of "quest" or "purpose" for people to hate and get angry.
(Someone will probably see this post and tell me I'll never be a woman, but as a guy who doesn't have melties over other people's life decisions it always gives me a chuckle.)
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>>572045743
I call dibs on this anon.
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I should draw Noelle getting her tits ripped off.
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>Undertale happens after the roaring
>Asriel does not mention anything about Dess in his whole existence
>Infact, he's more obsessed with Chara than anything
This is going to be a bitch for Toby to retcon.
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>>572045008
Well yes, but UTDR suffers from having the tumblr audience as it's larger more annoying fanbase, so...
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>>572045613
damn chara and frisk absolutely mog the others
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THE VAGUEPOSTING KING
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>>572045094
>Beautiful stuff being a fan of her before the chapter released was probably one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life...
Fuckin' same. I feel pretty vindicated for liking Maddie since the Switch 1 release.

>>572045295
Delicious Bridget. Tgirl appreciators are eating good in recent years. Vivian too.
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Come with me fave i will explain everything along the way
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>>572045792
Kris really is the cucked. Poor guy.
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>>572045613
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>>572045094
>To molest and rape me, she uses her dick, to cheat on me with other people, she uses her pussy
>These threads are still unusable garbage
So you're the average quality poster in these threads, huh
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>>572045716
this bridget demonstrates my point even harder cause its clearly tranny art even though she's flat here. this isn't what bridget used to be. not the cute shota i jerked off to a lot. difference between bridget and ralsei though is at least bridget's story made some amt of sense as a tranny and i didn't personally care abt her in a narrative sense before. fighting game chars stories r always boring. but im attached to ralsei a lot so losing him would be sad.
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Mewmew art continues to roll in on twitter
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How do I get down there?
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i'm glad laser eyes has stuck around on civic doodle
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>>572045494
really I'd just want someone with a cock to fuck me and maybe treat me like their dog
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If I have the chance to kill Ralsei I'm taking it.
I will kill the goat
Fuck you Toby, and Fuck you Kris
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Mettaton and Mew Mew both have real functional plastic vaginas
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Apologize
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>>572045679
>I really don’t want to fight the knight again
I mean if that's the whole reason you're not replaying, you don't actually need to beat the shadow crystal bosses more than once to keep their items. They show up in the hole at the cliff in Castle Town
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>>572045161
https://x.com/C_GaluArt/status/2070557597829128338
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still waiting for a midi of Cutie Mew Mew Magic...
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>>572042905
I'm predicting Dess got sent to a dark world and Asgore tried to explain the concept of dark worlds and dark fountains to people (the previous line is about how people won't call him a conspiracy theorist) and they didn't believe him.
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Is the friend sprite in chapter 5 still called friend and it's a red filter or is it like... Friend_Red.png
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why the FUCK would an anime cat girl figure have a penis?
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do i have to restart ch4 to get to gerson
and if I do that is my ch5 file backwards compatible or do i have to redo that too
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>>572045905
windy thing top left
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>>572045905
Learn how to screenshot dipshit.
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>>572045816
So asgore & toriel divorce twice? Who does toriel forgot sans? I think you’re theory isn’t very good
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Terakota dialog:
LITTLE DIRT NEVER HURT
(Kris's memory if throwing dirt at dess)
*bullets impale you with pine trees that turn blood red*
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I hope we find out how bad Susie’s home life actually is.
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>>572044829
This was Toby testing the water and teasing the thread cause no one was even close during the binoculars bit.
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>>572045995
Because it's a hotglue doll
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Nobody talking about the Megaman Zero references....
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>>572045716
I feel like Bridget is a bad example to use as the she/her thing is purely western pandering. In Japan, he's still tagged as male everywhere and if anyone does bring up him being a "girl" it's purely in a pornographic context. Trans stuff is understandably niche/unappealing, and the vast majority of people don't want to interact with it or think about it
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>>572045678
actually true I had to take a break mid fight to jack off because I was horny
I wish I was joking
>>572045928
thanks
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>>572045995
cats have penis
girls have penis
anime's have penis
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>>572045848
It was too much to expect Tony to actually expand an unexplained plot point instead of introducing like 3 more
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>>572045892
lmfao
>>572045716
thicc
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>>572045905
go up, activate the wind, ride to the left, there's another wind thing that will push the wind right, go back to the bottom, rest should be easy
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>>572045995
Kris wants her to have a penis.
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>>572046009
I figured but when I throw Ralsei on the flower he always lands after I drop so I cant step on him
>>572046010
No
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>>572045632
>I don't know any guy like Kris.
Maybe you don't.

>shitkid
>prankster
>likes sharp things
>likes sweet things
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>>572045995
From ghost powers. Remember how Napstablook can make shit with his tears.
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Honestly at this point I'm with Kris
Just let me in on the plan you sad little shithead
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>>572046062
one of my first posts after 5 dropped was hoo hah huhing
I am a big found of the soundfont being used at the top of the castle
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>>572045129
I've only seen it on youtube. Now get back in that fucking water Kris, we're not done yet.
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>>572044832
This just shows that Susellefags see Soulelle/Kriselle as hetslop. In other words, these "progressives" really just see Kris as a guy and performatively call Kris a they. That was when I just started calling Kris a guy. Because if they're not going to give enby Kris any respect, why should I?
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>>572045716
Quoting you again to prove my point. This is from the artist's Twitter. In the west people will pretend they genuinely care about his labeling, but in the country of origin he'll always be a boy.
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>>572043102
I still can't believe that chapter 5 convinced me that Noelle and Kris are the Knight

Bravo Toby
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*ahem*
difficult rankings for me from hardest to easiest:
gerson > jevil > knight >>>> mew mew = spamton (i cant remember if i one or two shot spamton)
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shit sorry I didn't realize it would be my turn again so soon
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>>572044117
present
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Not sure if I've seen anyone point this out yet, but all of Asgore's notes being jumbled up in the Dark World might be a reference to how you can't really read in your dreams as your brain isn't able to fully sort words.
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>>572044879
He'd just turn into the chad strongfatass guy every fighting game has
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>>572045995
You are not well versed in anime figures
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>>572045892
kek
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>>572046062
the less we talk about this fanfic chapter the better
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>>572046027
Toby himself implied it
Devs said the whole goes into darkness as the one ending
The steam page said there's only one ending.
Everyone is their undertale counterpart in darkness
There ain't no divorce minigame in undertale, it's implied to have happened before you, nigga.
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>>572046062
nobody's talking about the yume nikki reference...
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This series desperately needed a beach episode but now I fear it's too late for that...
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Noelle can't join the party, she is level 2 she can't keep up.
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>>572046204
The tranny will ignore this
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>>572045860
>Fuckin' same. I feel pretty vindicated for liking Maddie since the Switch 1 release.
Angelic taste, my fave is Mettaton so I just adored the other ghosts by proxy for a long time, Napstablook being non-binary and Maddie being a trans woman makes the trio so charming I really adore them all just makes me feel bad for the ruins dummy who gets left out and forgotten... I love my awesome and beautiful cute and charming doll girl who is saving the world while still being a pervert!!
>>572045892
That post is really high-quality, Berdly-sama.
>>572045919
Mettaton's is definitely way fancier than plastic...
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>>572043429
>IS ONION OK!? IS HE ALRIGHT!?
Let's just say no part of Onion was wasted.
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I actually like mew mew and want to sex her but the only sex talk about her here being just troon fantasies is the worst outcome
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>>572045414
Dawg as soon as I saw the "pink and blue" dialogue I knew we were never going to be able to talk about this fucking chapter. Even if he meant Kris colors people will still argue and dominate every discussion with this. It's fine. I needed to focus on non-Deltarune stuff anyway
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>>572046278
anon, if that's a penis to you. I'm sorry you're disfigured
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>>572046231
*kisses you sloppy style in carol cosplay*
its ok
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>>572046162
>Mew Mew cries because she doesn't have a cock
>her tears shape themselves like a cock
>now she has a cock
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>>572046229
That's interesting. I only had to battle Gerson once in my current playthrough and Jevil wasn't that much harder, while I still haven't won against the Knight and Mew Mew.
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>>572045995
In Undertale, it's because you just KNOW Alphys purchased the futa model.

In Deltarune, it's because Asgore did the same.
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>>572046328
the... stairs?
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>>572046204
*pixiv
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Did anyone else think at first that Flowery had the ability to insert himself into people's memories? it's the way Ralsei and Asgore were treating him like someone they knew a while back
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>>572046330
What are you talking about, Anon? We just got one!
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>>572046354
this she aint even trans
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>>572045892
Took you this long to figure out that everyone who complains about "muh tourists muh thread quality" just wants to go back to circlejerking about their weird fetishes?
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>>572045893
Dont bother, tourists wont get it. Classic Bridget was my favorite trap because unlike most otokonokos Bridget had a cute boyish build and face, he wasnt just draw a girl call it a boy. This subtlety is completely gone now and theres no point in looking at any new Bridget art.
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>>572045129
No. None of the Weird route/Side B stuff is on the OST. It's ch5_weird_monologue_deep.ogg in the mus folder. It's slowed down like 5% in-game.

Also, the MichaelRoom theme is missing from OST too even though it's from normal route.
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green gets funny fanart
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>>572046379
i ranked them as i initially encountered them
if i fought jevil again he'd be a lot easier but that isnt a fair comparison
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>>572044471
>>572045590
It's neither about him being trans or being a darkner, people are warping shit too much.
Flowery was calling out Ralsei for not taking a stance about his own decisions and autonomy and his persistance on serving Kris. He taunts Ralsei by being the antagonist of the chapter despite doing essentially the same Ralsei is doing, just trying to protect Asgore.

The big twist with Ralsei is the same thing that happened to Susie as Gerson gave her advice: she has become more blindsighted than ever with her confidence, and Ralsei's trust and love for Kris, which Flowery is telling to bank on if he reallt believes it, will blow up in his face because Kris will eventually do something unacceptable.
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>>572045414
>>572045745
Looking forward to
>It was always like this you biggot
By the end of this year.
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>Nagasagy Kikky Park
>Shi's dislikes are Kikky & Kawkaw
>Kawkaw is a dog, Kikky is a cat
So Kikky will be a Darkner next chapter right?
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>>572046354
if you really liked mew mew you'd stop saying slurs like that, secondary
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>>572046406
that section where you water plants and form a path (right before the aqua fight i think) was very yume nikki, from the music to the exaggerated footstep noises
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>>572046062
I have only played megaman battle network 5 for like a few hours, I'm sorry anon
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>>572043159
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>>572046354
>the literal trans character has trans discourse
You're a retard and ESL, or you're too young to be here. Or both.
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>>572046330
Has Toby ever been to a beach before?
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we've got kris and maddie frotting
now we have mewmew and maddie frotting
now we just need to combine the two and have them eiffel tower kris
or for him to fuck both of them, I guess
also: sauce https://x.com/spinnsfw/status/2070456808708493336
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>>572046462
I love how veggietales she is
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don't you ever forget.
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>>572044704
That is the break scene, you aren't allowed to choose the non-serious option
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Fave must always have a strategy
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Are we doing a magma call tonight?
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>>572042905
Toby:
>"okay fuck it I'm just gonna make it as blatant as possible by making the weird route a suicide pact by Noelle and Kris"
Retards ITT:
>"Ahhhh I see, Mr Fox must want us to undergo this path for the real secret and good ending... Drowning in a lake is 'true freedom'"
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>>572046204
otokonoko is an umbrella term that includes femboys and trans girls
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>>572046062
Nobody talking about the Family Guy reference...
Nobody talking about the Simpsons references...
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>>572045590
>it could be that or it could also be a tranny thing
It couldn't be a tranny thing. There's no textual proof of that. I'll type it again: there's no textual evidence that anything which happened is proof of him being trans. Trannies are desperately projecting as usual, but in truth, they're weird and ugly and nobody really cares about them.
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Mayor Kris Dreemurr and their dickgirl wives
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So many Flower Man covers...
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>>572046598
yes I saw that Yellow pose
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>>572046525
how many times we gotta tell you fucks, ghosts don't have gender. So her becoming mew mew isn't transitioning.
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>>572045430
I love this bitch like you wouldn't believe.
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>>572046569
>Two years of waiting passes
>Chapter 7 side B
>It's just a game over screen
BRAVO TOBY.
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>>572046348
Didn't dummy say they just wanted to be left alone, or was that cope because they just wanted an excuse to attack you
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>>572046361
goodness me...
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>>572046525
what Mettaton is in the same boat and he isn’t getting this shit
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>>572046497
Good catch, I didn't notice it when playing
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>>572046502
I got this feeling too! so much that i actually spent ages on that screen looking for a secret watering every part of it.
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>>572046316
I’m still not following why is chara white and implied to have died as like a 7 year old if they’re Kris? (Forgive the typos btw getting stoned and phone posting)
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Normal route vs weird route
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I remember... tea theory...
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>Bridget deniers
>in a fuckin' Undertale thread
How many times does Daisuke himself have to tell you people to fuck off? Honestly.
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>>572046537
nice
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>>572046537
>him
Shame on you anon, Maddie wouldn't like you misgendering Kris, be nicer ok? Maddie posters must be of the highest quality.
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>>572046673
I wish this could happen to me but we're both adults.
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>>572046673
HOT
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>>572046673
ANON, the SAUCE, please!
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>>572045995
>in undertale
alphys bought the cock model
>in deltarune
asgore accidentally bought the cock model
why does he even have one btw
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>>572046532
Obviously not. Have you seen how pasty the guy is?
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>>572046629
It's really easy to make a listenable cover when the music actually comes with lyrics for once.
>>572046673
The reason why Dess disappeared is that Dess shoved Kris down to the forest ground while fingering their prostate, which made Kris's erect penis create a dark world.
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>>572046598
>Nobody talking about the Family Guy reference...
Bro that's day 1 stuff
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>>572046739
wasn't it literally just an accident or some shit and the trannies grappled onto it and forced the studio's hand to make it real?
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>>572046662
>transitioning is changing gender
>changing from no gender to female gender is not transitioning
huh?
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>>572046662
nothing>girl is still a transition
it's not boy>girl but it is a transition
>>572046748
excuse me, or for them to use their thussy on the two of them
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Aqua makes me smile but when I check on /utg/ it's always rancid quality posts about her. Are there any normal Aqua fans here?
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>>572046593
>Ignoring femboy/but he's a guy tags
NGMI, your worldview is a fragile as prop glass.
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>>572046474
[mild applause]
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>>572046593
very incorrect, when japs want to post tranny porn they label it as newhalf. they're autistic about their tagging to the point that fights regularly break out between trapfags (can't tell it's a guy until you see the penis) and "trap"fags (visibly a guy in feminine clothing) where the first group demands the second group use the term male crossdresser (女装) and the second group demands the first draw their boys manlier
>t. n3 lurker
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>>572046830
No. Die.
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>>572046676
I wouldn't put it past him. Chapter 7B is like the worst ending in Faith where you just skip the final boss so they take over and it all goes to shit.
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>>572046830
i think aqua had very fun scenes and smiled whenever she got up to a mischief mischief, a chaos chaos
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>>572046673
what's wrong with you
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>>572046673
GIGA BASED HOLLLLYYYYYY
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>>572046830
Me. I'm not a lolifag and I just think she's a cute and full of little girl energy.
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>>572046830
I like her, she has the best dynamics with the rest of the flowers
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Quit being such a fucking pussy Kris, we’re just going to DROWN EACH OTHER!
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>>572046673
holy shit i love this so much MORE
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>>572046927
that's how they get ya.
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>character you like is being used for the worst fetish posting
is this what tennafags felt
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>>572046901
they/them, because Dess molested Kris.
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Oh no no no no I think I finally figured out, having thought about information from various sources. The answer to the femkris vs memkris debate that fits with deltarunes current direction in a way I don't like.
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>>572046823
no
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in retrospect this was more prophetic than I realized
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>>572046901
hes a boy because only males have the want and capability of rape
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>>572046739
heteronormativity but woke
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>>572046062
I keep seeing people specifically mention MMZ, did I miss something? For me the segment was more just basic 2D jump and slash. And then the Path of Pain segment near the end.
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>>572046830
Some of the flowers really made me feel parental. I would love to chase Aqua around while she runs around with a knife.
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So how much if at all do you think stuff like refusing to put the ring back on Noelle will affect the story?
I don’t have the picture but if you ask her to ride the ferris wheel in ch5 after killing berdly, she tells Kris they can’t order her anymore and then she uses one of her new evil/hateful sprites and says “you hear me?”
I find it hard to believe Toby wants to develop significant ending divergences for stuff like aborting ch4, but then I worry he’s setting attentive fans up for disappointment if this stuff doesn’t turn into anything.
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>some rando ghost possessing a realdoll is on the same level as mad gods and legendary warriors
Either Maddie is built different, or this lightner/darkner fusion thing is some BULLSHIT.
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I solved it. Kris summoned a demon, opened the original fountain and froze Dess in time so they could finally date eachother. Theres no other explanation for why things are happening again right when Kris is conveniently the same age as her.
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>>572046830
I liked her a lot, and I usually really dislike kids but something about Aqua makes me want to play with her anyway
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>>572046978
what point is being made here
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>>572046914
i like to think she'd get along with jevil
be her older brother and mentor in the chaotic ways
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>>572046673
this seems out of character for dess based on ch5
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>>572046823
it was just western pandering because strive wasn't selling well and nip boomers think trannyshit is compelling to anyone but trannies
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>>572047006
Kris is The Raped™ though
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>>572046474
I am fully convinced it's Alphys' alley cat that she feeds, and that Alphys is working in a lab in a bunker, and that we'll never get to see Gaster unless we do weird stuff.
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>>572046537
>>572046673
sucking on adult penises!
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>>572046656
Not that one.
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>>572046537
sex cum magical girl cat
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>>572046681
It was cope Maddie makes up random bullshit reasons to attack you no matter what you do to the ruins dummy.
>>572046739
Being a trans ally is good but you should NOT be posting about this retarded shit on /utg/ please god stop using reaction images not related to the thread topic and stop making off-topic posts, PLEASE behave I really want all the Maddie posters to fit in and stay while the shitty ones leave but you can't be behaving like a retarded /v/ poster even if you're supporting the right ideals.
Instead of posting this you could have just IGNORED and REPORTED those posts so they would LEAVE instead of GIVING THEM ATTENTION so they STAY for MORE ATTENTION, ok? you got that? thank you.
>>572046828
Thank you, their little thoner...
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>>572046551
bump
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>>572046839
femboy also says otokonoko, the other one is a trope the same nature as trap, which is just "surprise penis"
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>>572046968
yes
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>>572046968
I can put up with fatposting because at least it's happening to an adult man
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>>572046673
>Are you fingering the boy?
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>>572046127
He's going for the world record for longest exposition hallway at the end of the game before the asspull final boss that's not been hinted at all to before this point.
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>>572046204
A chud in Japan is no more important than a chud in America. They are both retards. Uu
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>>572046968
Asriel is one of my favorite Undertale characters, I know your pain.
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>>572046551
I am a stubborn bastard that will refuse to use magma until the end of time
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>>572047045
I would fucking kneel through the floor if that was actually what happened.
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I want to do this to Aqua
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it snew
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>go back to chapter 4
>look through my saves
>don't see any crystals
huh? how do i remember which one i did bosses on
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>>572047038
It's the Lightner/Darkner combo.
It applies to Spamton NEO (Darkner + Lightner's Dream), The Knight, Gerson and Maddie.
Jevil on the other hand is just fucking like that, if Jevil were boosted with Lightner juice he'd be fucking unstoppable.
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>>572046986
Kris is biological male who transitioned to female in the original timeline where he and Noelle fall in love the the prophecy ruins everything. Now in the new timeline Kris is deliberately only half transitioned to they/them because they still don't want to be a man but can't risk becoming The Girl and getting together with Noelle again.
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I think the secret boss was *fine* but also kind of shit because it’s just some stupid one off character that doesn’t fit in with deltarune’s aesthetic at all and isn’t
Important to the story at all unlike jevil and spamton and what not
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>>572045659
Humiliation ritual. The only black male in UnderRune has to put on the dress.
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>>572046968
At least the fat posters had good art and were funny
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>>572046551
we're boxing right now
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Ghosts don't have cocks or cunts
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post release discourse and headcanon forming phase sucks ass
send me to battat, i want to be with battat
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>>572047161
He already pulled the exposition hallway card in chapter 4 (not holding that against it), if he pulls it again it's gonna be so fucking ass, man.
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>>572046903
newhalf is another group which also has trans women in it, of a different style. i live in nichome anon, i know my jp faggotry venn diagram
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>>572045995
Fags fetish. That's it. That's all it ever is with futas and tranny shit.
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>>572047038
Remember part of UT/DR power levels are based on killing intent and she has always got that stuff full throttle at all times
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>>572047258
>Important to the story like jevil
right
she's the acceptance part of grief
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>>572047258
if you relate all the secret bosses to Kris their placement makes sense
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>>572047342
Jevil is talked about constantly by Seam.
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Replaying Ch. 2 onward and finally doing all the secret bosses
Is there anything else I should be sure to do?
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>>572047308
Bitch, you live like this?
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>>572046593
incorrect
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If you think about it there's more supporting evidence for AFAB Kris than AMAB Kris. Like Aqua can be read as Asgore projecting his memories of childhood Kris onto the cyan flower.
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>>572047291
I just want to be happy with my new flower friends.
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>>572046551
I won't talk on call but I will draw
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Where is Rudest Buster Toby
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>>572047273
they have ghocks and ghunts
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>>572047191
Then I’m not talking to you /v/aggot
>>572047267
I know but mag after?
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Finished Chapter 5 and now to start playing Toby's inspirations.
>look how to get into Touhou
>decide not to get into Touhou
It just wasn't meant to be. On to Umineko
>look how to-
I'm sticking with Mother.
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>>572047241
Check the chapter select menu, baka
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>>572047308
This is such a sad, evocative picture, but I can't google image search doesn't seem to put up much. Do you know of the original artist?
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>>572047064
>strive wasn't selling well
you dirty liar
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>>572047408
and he has contributed exactly fuck and all to the story
I'd expect all of the secret bosses to be relevant in one way or another, whatever John Mantle ends up being
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>>572047376
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>>572046968
The fatposting wasn't all that bad, a lot of the jokes to come from it were really funny
Fatfaggotry is an incredibly mild fetish and I'm glad it was that and not something much worse
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>>572047425
WHAT is he cooking.....
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>>572047442
Psyop, Kris refuses to look through the crystals during chapter 5
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>>572047534
you are lucky
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>>572047504
Literally (me) and Kris
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>Kris and Noelle wandered went out of bounds in the weird route
>The survey program in chapter 1 starts with something similar to a lake
>There's one snowflake in Gaster's unique text back in Entry Seventeen
>Entry Seventeen is a VHS tape just like Chapter 7 Side B is teasing
>"What do you two think?"
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>>572047547
fried snow and hot cats
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>>572046593
otokonoko is crossdresser or trap
onabe is trans shit iirc, whatever they call the butch bar owners
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>>572047442
Shadow Crystals still reflect the light world when you're in darkness, yea? No idea why Kris would bring Noelle to this shop in the weird route, unless we really are giga cucking Susie for no reason
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Why do you guys pretend to hate trannies we’re in 4chan 7/10 of us are on hrt and the rest are fat schizoid trolls
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>>572047547
Freedom.
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>>572047504
>>572047258
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>>572046823
No. He's clarified multiple times that Bridget is trans, and even had it be part of a pivotal turning point in Dual Rulers. Yunika saw Bridget naked and had a conversation about finding your true self, and immediately reconsidered her life. Which, fair. I would also stop hating the world if I was in this situation where a beautiful transwoman saved my life and I saw her bathing naked in the ocean.
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>>572047165
nobody likes trannies m8. trannies are treated with either pity or revulsion in circles that aren't trans dominated. trans shit is incredibly boring, shallow, and has no artistic or spiritual merit. it's not really chudism it's just smelling shit and wrinkling your nose
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>>572046830
she was fun and I'm glad she got picked for the role of carrying the first half of the chapter. still sad there she didn't have a secret boss route that dripfed information about what happened to kris to make them the way they are
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>>572047547
bread
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is there any explanation as to why sans was the only one who was still in the festival in the weird route
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So if Shadow Crystals are lost dreams... Ch2's is clearly Mettaton's, Ch4's is Alvins, and Ch5's is Maddie.
Chapter 3's comes from the Knight, and I'm wondering if the Knight isn't actually a Lightner, but rather Kris' lost dream regarding himself as a monster, or his feelings toward Noelle or Dess.

Ch1's is Noelle's dream of breaking free and leaving the town.
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>>572047625
I'm a thin schizoid troll. Also I'm autistic so I can't be schizoid.
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>>572047161
Im kind of worried Toby is going 2 for 2 on that front. Asriel reveal isnt even that bad because the return of the slain child at the heart of Asgores war works emotionally despite being an asspull. Deltarune is way too long for the same trick to work twice.
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>>572047351
I haven't been keeping up with the threads because of how shit they are, did you enjoy the chapter my king? I loved it, I'm glad Asgore got a lot of scenes.
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>>572047547
>A glitch involving the use of bread crumbs allows the player to reach an out-of-bounds area of the map in the original Mother. To activate the glitch, Ninten must never use bread crumbs, and then must subsequently rescue Pippi. If Pippi starts a trail of crumbs and then is delivered safely to the mayor, the player can choose to talk to her to obtain the items from her. Since each character has a separate variable for bread crumbs, and Ninten has not used them yet to set the variable, the crumbs that Pippi hands back to him lead to the default location on the map. The glitch can be canceled by using Bread in certain locations, which can be used to skip a large section of the game. If the player moves too far in any direction, the game will create large amounts of glitched blocks that Ninten cannot pass through.
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>>572047664
>it's just smelling shit and wrinkling your nose
you would know what that looks like.
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WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE
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>>572047124
>Doubling down while still ignoring the tags
If I drew an orange, labeled it as #orange #fruit You would argue that it could be a pineapple cause that's also a fruit. You "people" are so painfully unserious.
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>>572045430
why is Carol the only parent referred to by name here?
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i kinda got into deltarune for epic lolz memes and the gameplay, i didnt liked how 4 5 was wholly into shipshit but i realized that kris might have been in love with susie from the start and not a bit later and it makes sense for the weird route when you're trying to sabotage noelle out of susie's grip but kris will probably feel closer to noelle than susie in the end even if he's intially fucking up noelle for having susie all alone
and the classic route is probably letting noelle and susie be and they'll probably break up and kris will endup having susie's initial intimacy back, probably
but idk i just play the game for the gameplay chasing the secret bosses in blind and the soundtracks and i dont play weird route
>whole post is about weird route but doesnt play weird route
whatever let me be (i watch my friends playing it instead)
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>>572047652
>he's clarified multiple times
aka he's realized the value of pandering to trannies and decided to go along with a mistranslated line that got you retards up your own asses
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>>572047425
how does this smug faggot avoid all the potential man memes when we know his abysmal track record
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W- Where are the dicefags...
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>>572047757
Welcome to the circus.
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>>572047593
May god have mercy on us of Gaster finally shows up
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>>572047689
And how’s hrt working out for you?
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>>572047617
onabe is a term for the other direction, female to male shit.
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>>572046537
Found another degenerate mewmew on twitter, here
https://x.com/puppygirlfag67/status/2070625453770199065
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>>572047504
I noticed when Kris is acting independent of us the dialogue and actions tend to be slower, like ripping the paper.

I thought Toby did that for creepiness factor but it might be Kris fighting against us, we also can't do things Kris doesn't really want to unless we really try.

So I am assuming for the other 99% of gametime he is actually okay with all of it, like we are on sync
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>>572047165
off model. her ass is flat
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>>572047675
to give you the bread
this is apparently important enough to be mandatory to progress, and also disappears from your inventory if you drown
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>Festival came and went and not a single one of berdly's friends was there to hang with him
there's something honestly kind of evil about the way this game handles this guy. if noelle was left hanging like that itd be brought up for the rest of the game
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>>572047807
hibernating
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How the weird route felt.
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>>572047625
I'm not a real tranny I'm just agp
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>>572046537
Kris's pouty face in the middle
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>>572047757
me when i get raped:
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I don't think chapters 6 and 7 will disappoint but it will very much feel like that "YES, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR" scene from SpongeBob after 3, 4 and 5.
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>>572047841
You say this about berdly when catti exists
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>>572047625
Its ragebait city man you're asking people with nothing better to do. They don't actually believe in anything, they just wanna cause harm to something, regardless of what it actually is, because to them nothing really matters. especially not here. This website is where the not-caring started and it wrapped around them like vines until their real world looks no different.
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>>572046968
Yup but the fat stuff was funny at times, trannies JUST want to take your toys and break them. There is no joy with them, only corruption.
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>>572047652
and yet japanese (and most western porn) artists don't care, japanese players don't care, and even the confirmations are incredibly vague kekaroo
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you still don't get it..........
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seriously wtf did kris do between chapters? I refuse to believe he snuck out just to make a secret deal with a purple flower
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>>572047807
Wait a few more days for the /v/ermin to leave.
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>>572047852
wait chapter 5 has a weird route?
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So uh, what's going to happen in the "aborted" weird route chapter 6 when Noelle gets invited by Susie into the Castle Town and realizes it was not a dream?
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I want to talk about raping shota Kris and Ralsei but the tourists wont leave

ugh
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>>572047920
OR, we're just annoyed at you fuckers forcing yourself into everything.
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>>572047772
that's not remotely whats going on, its more like you're schizophrenic and have decided the only fruit in the world is an orange, and i tell you there's other fruits like pineapples. but then you cry and say the pineapple labelled fruit is actually an orange.
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>>572047958
Don't think about it because Toby didn't thought about it at all
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>>572047593
I think Side-B is going to start in his Lab, possibly even in Undertale graphics, and he's going to say "What do you two think?"
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They're eating my flesh!
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>>572047807
raped and dead in a ditch by t-girl mewmew fans and aqua pedos
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>>572047917
>>572047841
He will not be merciful when he finally stops holding back.
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>>572047920
You sound insane
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>>572047917
catti was off crying about noelle having a friend which is both entirely her own problem and precludes her from spending time with her friends
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>>572047807
Hello
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>>572047887
chapter 4 felt perfect for the halfway point, good time to shift the tone. Chapter 5 feels like Toby just forgot he made chapter 4 and tried to do the same thing again
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>>572047625
I hate it because the T ideology is based on shoving people into two boxes. The Q went missing a long time ago.
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>>572048036
Gaster and Jesus foreshadowing
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>>572047841
You mean a small side character wasn't important but a main character was?
Better check on temmy too
>>572047983
another pretty fucked up one too
multiple even, kind of
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>>572047757
LIKE THIS
SPINS WITH AQUA
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>>572048036
Please save the thread based flower man
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>>572047920
blah blah they do shit like this >>572047856 and this >>572048012. they're liars and disingenuous retards to their core
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>>572047827
i liked what this anon said about it and another anon pointing out shit like mew wanting to eat sand on the beech is similar to the player wanting to eat moss
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>>572048036
This foreshadows Rudy needing to contend with being pregnant with Titan spawn to become the Knight btw
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Am I crazy or is the ch5 jingle when you start up the game an Ideon reference?
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>>572047989
i want to talk about loving consensual sex with shota Kris and Ralsei
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>>572047035
Willing to bet it sets the tone for whatever shit starts in six be it her dad dying and her trying to fix him with half-baked info about Gerson from Susie in the normal, or her just learning that Lightners can make fountains and trying to break out that way for the aborted routes. She's not gonna give up on the chance to stop being "Just a Noelle" now that she has seen our light for the wr stuff.
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has anything OBSCURE BUT CRAZY been found?
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>>572048098
This, trannies are unironically conservative in terms of gender. It's just they force you into boxes based on what you appear as rather than what's actually in your pants.
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This is an uber autist complaint, but I don't like how Susie and Ralsei were like "Oh, I wonder what's behind this door? I bet it's a secret guy. Like, a mega powerful guy with a memorable theme or something." It just felt like making light of what was an entirely serious questline up until now. Also kind of unfortunate that Susie questioning Spamton's greater knowledge never really went anywhere, now that I think about it. I figured it'd escalate with each secret boss until Susie started piecing together some of the bigger picture, but oh well.
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These threads will be REALLY good soon, trust me, we just have to wait, we just have to wait ok? and then we'll get to see more flower pippins.
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>>572047920
>ermmmm they dont actually hate us haha its all just trolling haha theyre just saying it to get a rise out of us haha they dont mean it haha ha ha :')
cope
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>>572047780
kris and carol have a weird relationship that we're still getting context for
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>>572048197
this, but they'll lie about it to save their asses of course. look at the current ralsei debacle
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Why is no one talking about that Suselle is canon now?
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>>572048142
But Kris loves eating moss
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Carol…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkOBh1PDKI
even though the room itself was underwhelming as shit, and it felt like toby just cut off whatever he had planned for the egg stuff, the track is so damn good
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I saw someone say an attempt at mew mew takes 15 minutes but she doesn't really attack you for like a third of that, no? So she's not that much longer than the other secret bosses in terms of actual gameplay
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Why has Susie been all weird about not approaching Alphys but all of a sudden she doesn't give a shit
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>>572047958
ate bird cloaca in order to grab one of his feathers
he didn't have to spend three hours doing that, but if you ask he'll just blame the soul anyway
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>>572048140
I'm a lot of things, including a tremendous homo sissy faggot tranny whatever, but I am not a liar nor am I disingenous, I'm actually such a painfully autistic person that I automatically blow up when other people are being disingenuous and have to force myself to not look like that much of a sperg in front of normal people because normal people can understand that it's just a joke
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>>572047593
>the first thing Gaster sees after asking that and upon turning around is this face
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Wait people can change their gender? what if...?
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>>572046474
LMAO
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>>572048160
It is, and someone else mentioned that before only to be ignored
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>>572047038
The lightner/darkner combo power is just like the chara/asriel monster/human fusion power of undertale.
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>>572048191
Catti comes back if you let Susie and Noelle ride the ferris wheel together and she apologizes for leaving you
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>>572047335
>The character trannies keep trying to claim is a psychopathic killer
Sugoi toby-sama! I was unfamiliar with your game.
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>>572048262
thats a reasonable timeframe if u need to spend turns healing. no hit is like 6m.
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>>572047258
don't look at it like "okay then x happened and then y happened and then z happened" plot, look at it from the perspective of theme and narrative importance
Pink, beyond being relevant to the theme of love in the chapter, is a spiritual will inhabiting and superceding a body that has its own will. while the spirit is in control most of the time, the body has its own desires, and them clashing leads to self destruction. it's a reflection of us - (You) and Kris. In order to persevere going forwards, (You) are going to have to understand exactly what it is that Kris wants and why they're doing what they're doing, and accomodate them. i'd even hazard a guess that in the endgame, when we have every tool needed to pursue the "path between the lines" (to parrot gerson), this will manifest as navigating interactions cleverly in a way that is in-line with what i said above to succeed, in much the same way that you have to parse what Maddie and Mew Mew want in the dating sections in order to get them to reconcile.
if you wanna go even further, Noelle in weird route says that Kris "found a way to not be Kris". this could relate to Pink as well - to get to that point, (You) have to have completely ignored and trampled what your body wanted, damaging Kris in the process (Shattered Rose)
also, i think she fits pretty decently considering that she's situated firmly in dark world, japan
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>>572047984
She snowgraves castle town, that's what the Ice Palace is, and the hidden door is the sealed door, behind it is the Delta Rune shelter code
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>>572048271
Because she fell from the fucking ceiling nigga...
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>>572047625
a good 10-20% of people worldwide have the exact same doomer penguin ideology that doesn't really have an end goal other than watching people suffer for nothing. Penguin breaks off from the pack, heads towards the mountains because "The other side has food!", and that everyone swimming towards the water is stupid. He dies after walking alone for a mile. Researchers ask if penguins can go insane. No one says no.
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>>572048105
"you dont have to care about how stories handle side characters because only main characters matter to the plot" must go hard if you're retarded
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>>572048206
made me unironically forgot how much of a hard on was the sub questline unironically but starting from the pink door all tension was lost
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>>572047780
Rudy does this when he speaks to Toriel, he asks Toriel to call her Carol instead of "your wife"
No-idea why.
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>>572048297
i should've mentioned that trannies are also raging narcissists. i don't care about your blogpost lil troon
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>>572046676
Unironcally it would be the most based thing he could do and probably the only way to make certain players understand that they're engaging the doomed timeline
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>>572047807
Eating nachos in the hyperbolic time chamber
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>>572048260
i agree. dog part sucked, too. amazing music. i'm looking forward to whatever not important but unimportant thing we get from them all. i still feel that weight on my shoulder
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>>572047504
All true. Fuck Kris.
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>>572048410
yea I figured but the autism isn't gonna stop itself anytime soon
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>>572048262
What
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>>572048305
I KNEW IT

DELTARUNE IS FOR MECHA FANS

ESPECIALLY TOMINOCHADS
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>>572047713
I seriously loved it as well, I got more than I ever dared hope with Asgore's appearances. The perfect mix of cute and cool, then having him actually reconcile his past and forgive himself while accepting that it's time to move on and focus on being more present in Kris/Asriel's lives was absolutely incredible to me. Even putting aside my love of Asgore (with herculean effort) I still think the Chapter was great, the gameplay was amazing and the visuals of Flower King's Dark World were every bit as vibrant and pretty as I imagined they'd be after seeing the Chapter 4 prophecy slide. I really liked all the flower colors as well, more than I thought I would. Overall I seriously loved it, honestly even surpassing 3 as my favorite Chapter thus far.
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>>572048260
The egg stuff made no sense honestly, especially since we know how important 3's was to weird route now, and 4 just seems integral to Kris' character in general
Maybe he realized putting important stuff in those rooms was a bad idea?
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>>572047625
>we’re in 4chan 7/10 of us are on hrt
/lgbt/ isn't the entirety of 4chan
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>>572047453
I just watch someone on YouTube talk about those games and call it a day
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*Ralsei wonders what the threads would be like if the off topic rule would actually be enforced.
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>>572047695
Toby admits to being an uncreative hack, said as much before when saying people would realize that if Mother ever got an official translation that did not scare the normies away with emulation.
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>>572048384
Like Happy Feet
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>>572047245
>combining the powers of Light and Dark create an exponentially stronger hybrid power
Hm...

>>572047335
True. Maddie does have the power of being really fucking pissed all the time.
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>>572047824
catbox?
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yeah well, what are they supposed to do in chapter 7 side b if they both died? wouldn't it make more sense if side b just wouldnt boot up at all
unless kris somehow finds a way to open a dark fountain in the water or some other magical bullshit would happen
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Anyone else have Quiet Glade on loop, just zoning out?
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>>572048363
>(You) are going to have to understand exactly what it is that Kris wants and why they're doing what they're doing, and accomodate them
That'd be a lot easier if the little fucking faggot would finally fucking talk and spill the beans already.
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>>572047504
>"It needs to do what I SAY!! Because what it WANTS, is STUPID"
>Her body immediately says it wants to eat sand
So is the joke that Maddie is just right?
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>>572046569
Toby:
>makes a massive personalized ARG only for the fever dream route
>gives this route the highest quality cutscenes
Retards ITT:
>aah Toby doesnt want people to play this route because it will brick their save
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>>572048260
>Half the egg rooms are silly nonsense
>Game has explicitly told you they were just funny easter eggs since day 1
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WE DIDN'T SEE KRIS' PET DOG THAT DIED AND EXPLAINS EVERYTHING ABOUT HIS CHARACTER
At this point I hope it is literally nothing, you people are too retarded to exist
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>>572048479
We already had a gattai sequence.
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>>572047335
>Remember part of UT/DR power levels are based on killing intent
never stated to be a thing in DR
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>>572046598
I hate anything by McFarlane with a passion so I pretend I don't see it
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Suselle ship will crash and burn in chapter 6 and you know it.
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>>572048525
Really anon
https://youtu.be/_r_pOtUVTgo?si=
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>>572043102
Actually based as fuck. But also completely wrong
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>>572047323
4's was fine yeah cause it worked, but also set up more bullshit questions than it answered so I don't really count it. The man really made a question hallway to pair with the exposition one.
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I was expecting a kemono angel...
Not... HER.
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>>572048632
the joke is that we also make Kris eat moss
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>>572048636
>Half the egg rooms are silly nonsense
this just isn't true
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>>572048656
It has to be because you still get stronger if you use violence in DR.
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>>572048590
How hard is it to just use xcancel or something
Oh well, here
https://files.catbox.moe/mts6xj.jpg
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>>572048608
>unless kris somehow finds a way to open a dark fountain in the water
it's already there, that's where the music is coming from and why onionsan went missing
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>>572048635
>>gives this route the highest quality cutscenes
two sprites walking backwards is high quality but full 3d animation, anime studios, and FMVs aren't?
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This chapter needed a lost guitar pick secret room
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I'd like to have a genuine take at the trans Ralsei debate if anyone is willing to share some opinions

I don't like it. Not on principle trans characters are bad (I like Mew Mew) but I can't see how this is an interest route to go with Ralsei's character, which puzzles me because people have been trying to say there's themes and such
Becoming your own person is a straight to the point, old as time type of character arc, so I ask how does deciding to be a girl strenghtens Ralsei's character? Yeah, he's a girl now, he made a strong decision for himself... So what? It's as impactful as choosing which flavor of slushie he likes the most.

Some people have said it'd be great because Ralsei by choosing to be a girl he'd defy the Prophecy and refuse to be the Prince. I think this makes no sense in the context of the plot right now, and it never did. Ralsei is following the story because he believes in it and if he didn't, he could snap out and Firegrave shit at any moment. Transitioning wouldn't be this magical key that defies fate and gives everyone a happy ending, and if it was the case it'd undermine the entire story if all it takes to stop the unrelenting power of destiny is a pronoun change.
Unless the plot pulls a pants on the head and makes Ralsei become The Girl through some insane twist and forces an unpredictable outcome. I don't know how that would turn out.

Aesthetically, it wouldn't serve Ralsei in the slightest, it's been hammered how much Toby likes his hatless design the way it is so nothing would even visually change about him besides more dress gags?

If it has to happen, I'm actually more in line with Ralsei going by they/them non binarism like Kris as it seems it goes in line with his love for Kris and probably origins, if he's meant to be a foil to Kris himself accepting more of his (their) own person instead of trying to be this idealized brother of Asriel that never was.
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>>572048668
I was expecting there to be some sort of friction to happen during the festival so now I'm not sure
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>>572045995
ectoplasm dick powers
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>>572048668
Susie calling the dark world home is a REALLY bad sign they’re entirely avoiding reality
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>>572048632
This is pointing at Kris's origin btw

Vessel washed up on beach
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>>572048446
>>572048504
There's a least a suggestion that there's more to the Eggs themselves when you bring 5's into the Blue & Yellow fight.
>* It's evidence. You'll know what it was evidence for when it happens.
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>>572046593
Me when I lie
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hiding every single troon troon post
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>>572048619
That sounds nice
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>>572047425
Can't wait to kick this guy's ass.
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>>572048632
God this fight is just so fucking cringe and aura-less
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>>572048772
I still want to know what the fuck that room's deal is.
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>>572048863
Which darkner said this?
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>>572048851
fuck does this mean
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>>572048632
Mewmew is stupid but she also deserves to have a say in the body she shares with Maddie
plurality is about accepting the shit about you that makes you feel uncomfortable and nothings more uncomfortable than your body not being fully within your control. At first anyway
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>>572048331
kek'd
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what the FUCK did he mean by this
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>>572047423
Simply looking at how Tori treats Kris proves they're a boy. If He was a She, Tori would not be as nonchalant about them hanging out super late and I doubt they'd have been sharing a room with Asriel past a particular age. Tori and most of the town treats both younger Kris and older Kris with the "Boys with be boys" mindset for how they act as well.
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>>572047463
what am i looking for
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>>572048759
>>572047824
>Maddie has a smaller cock than mewmew so the body gets to be the top and decide what to do
NOW WE'RE FUCKING TALKING
I knew twitter wouldn't disappoint me on this
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>>572048632
am I the only one kinda turned on by this? Autistic spergs are so sexy and cute to me.
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>>572048608
they didn't die, they proceeded out the boundaries of the game as it exists now
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Draw rqs?
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>>572048915
Ralsei lays eggs.
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>>572048725
>Gray color palette
>Gaster theme hidden
>Ominous cryptic dialogue
I thought for a second shit would get real. Like she would have a Katana and just Zanketzuken the entire screen.
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>>572046532
Does New England have real beaches that aren't just a shitty rocky shoreline?
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>>572048913
my boy LANCER
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Ralsei will troon out off screen and show up in Chapter 6 wearing an identical outfit to Kris
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I am trans. I don't really want to keep going anymore. If anyone here now truly wishes people like me dead then I ask that you provide or direct me to instructions on how to do it without making a mess or feeling too much pain. Maybe I can give someone the satisfaction of helping fumigate a parasite.
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>>572048792
I'm inclined to believe Ralsei is nonbinary rather than transfem. Given that he gets the blue AND pink drink and having a "conditional" opinion of the butler outfit. Makes me think he's questioning the purpose of labels altogether.
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>>572048632
The joke is that Kris is being a fucking retard and could have had us as an ally if he would just fucking let us know what's going on, but he's too busy going "BUT WHAT THE SOUL WANTS IS STUPID."
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>>572048902
>aura-less
hellooooooooo twitter
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>>572048478
What's your question anon
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>>572047625
I hate how insufferable you delusional faggots are.
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Do we think chapter 5 did justice to the greatest country on earth?
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Oh what a cute doll. Something kinda familiar about it though...
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>>572044119
Things have to be real otherwise Tenna wouldnt talk about showd kris watched and Rudy Asgore and Tori and Carol all met in college
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>>572048992
mewmew is unironically the person I'd want to date most in the game and if Kris fumbles this for us then we're going to have a very unpleasant conversation in a few chapters
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>>572048969
Does this imply that Noelle is Noelle?
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>>572048862
even if you're just a retarded porn addict theres hundreds of otknk's twitter accounts that prove u wrong.
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>>572048904
Dess is dead and Kris feels remorseful, also probably gonna lose a hand
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>>572048725
Who was that?
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>>572048994
Berdly seth romancetic moment at the end of deltarune (the roaring is happening)
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Okay yeah I gotta get out of this place for a while, wtf is happening.
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>>572049074
Tenna when the Pippins lie about not eating his cookies:
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>>572048036
I prefer Ralsei as they/them or just non-binary who feels comfortable in men or women's clothes. Something about Ralsei just feels like he doesn't really care about gender or gender norms and is comfortable with being a butler and a princess at the same time
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>>572043102
So are you saying she’s time traveling back to chapter one after the weird route
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Mewfags making gotefags look fantastic right now
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>>572048384
d'you know who the artist is? i think i've seen their work a few times but reverse image search never finds them
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>>572049038
Take a walk, jesus. And no "Omg the Air is BAD!" its BETTER THAN YOUR ROOM
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>>572047556
Why would the narrator lie?
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>>572049038
Get off 4chan and have a milkshake or something
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>>572049158
second this I bet seth fantisizes about throating berdly's beak
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>>572048402
Carol likes her friends and family to refer to her by name, so Toriel was deliberately avoiding saying her name to express her anger at Carol. Kris thinking of Carol by name in the flashback is the result of their present-day closeness with her.
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How on earth do people stand using /v/ regularly
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>>572044553
If Kris is included with the other two hoomans I add them in. But not by themself
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>>572049148
mew mew
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Not gonna lie, I thought the vendor was Ceroba for a few seconds
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>>572048384
That's an uncharitable look at the penguin. I always took it as an unquenchable sense of longing. Not even adventure, just wanting to be there, because it is there. It knows what it's doing is wrong, but does it anyway.
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>>572049148
it's mewmew
orange even comes to hang out with her after the fight and talks to you a bit
guess she wasn't in one of her manic episodes, since even before the fight she's (sort of) normal
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>>572049176
Time traveling all the way back to rescue(kidnap) Dess
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>>572047423
when you have a bat, everything looks like a ball
for every piece of "evidence" (""evidence"") you could dredge up afab/girl kris, someone could dredge up a piece for amab/boy kris. it's personal and i feel trifling about it too much is pointless
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>>572049170
u can be a cis male and be that way.
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>>572048608
Remember monsters come back to life in dark worlds. If kris is dead then the fountains can't be closed, susie and ralsei can't do anything to stop the knight from opening fountains.... they can't stop the world from turning into a dark world when the roaring happens.

I can easily see why it's chapter 7 side B because chapter 7 side A is the roaring, which means something incredibly different if kris can save the day.
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>>572046474
He's Mettaton's ghost form and also the knight don't worry.
>>572048493
>I seriously loved it as well, I got more than I ever dared hope with Asgore's appearances. The perfect mix of cute and cool, then having him actually reconcile his past and forgive himself while accepting that it's time to move on and focus on being more present in Kris/Asriel's lives was absolutely incredible to me.
Fuck yes I absolutely agree!! I adored every single scene he was in I'm glad Toby went the route of him being so mature despite having a troubled life and not just infantilizing him like a lot of the fanon did, actually amazing character he has was always on my top 3 since the time I played Undertale as a kid but this chapter really elevates him even higher than before so fucking good...
>Even putting aside my love of Asgore (with herculean effort) I still think the Chapter was great, the gameplay was amazing and the visuals of Flower King's Dark World were every bit as vibrant and pretty as I imagined they'd be after seeing the Chapter 4 prophecy slide. I really liked all the flower colors as well, more than I thought I would. Overall I seriously loved it, honestly even surpassing 3 as my favorite Chapter thus far.
That's really awesome I'm super glad you feel the same way I did I loved all of that too specially Flowery!! 3 was also my favorite before this one but yes this was just completely amazing in every way I adored it from start to end the ending fight with Flowery with all those lyrics made me start sobbing in real life from how emotional and perfectly close to home it was, I think this chapter was the best piece of art Toby has ever worked on and I'm so excited for the following chapters, may we both stay strong to see them!!
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there are 2 transgenders and i had both of them with ur dad nigga!!!! see u next thread
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>>572047827
>So I am assuming for the other 99% of gametime he is actually okay with all of it, like we are on sync
Chapter 3's hidden stuff on WR confirms this, pointing out how Kris is using us as an excuse to pretend he didn't think about doing what we did with Noelle. The dialog options all through the game only come from things he's considering saying, while some instances result in him smothering the urge like the Noelle dialog with Susie in the chapter 5 dark world where he dives into the water if you tell her to stop getting in the way.
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>>572048851
That's what made me realize this post BTW

>>572047249
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susie and lancer throwing rocks at troons
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this but with maddie but in an entirely begging for it to be true way
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>>572047625
>anon thinks his lived experience is universal
many such cases
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>>572049124
>mewmew is unironically the person I'd want to date most in the game
Right?

>and if Kris fumbles this for us then we're going to have a very unpleasant conversation in a few chapters
RIGHT?!
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>>572048792
Personally, when I heard the trans theory thing I thought the idea was Ralsei originally being female but conforming to be a man instead to better fit the prophecy as Prince from the dark
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>>572049238
They don’t, and you can tell because each month the post count gets lower and lower. Someone posted the chart and it’s like, 50k a day now.
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>>572049169
Always knew Tenna was based.
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There are no canonical trans in deltarune. It's all headcanon
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>>572049267
the penguin doesn't know shit, nigga. you can project a human sense of longing onto it, and that means it has more meaning than whatever the penguin is thinking, but the penguin doesn't have a faustian spirit or whatever, it's just a retarded animal
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>>572049258
that's fair, still nice posting
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>>572049279
cis is a fake term
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Kris and Noelle killed Dess with Snowgrave. This is what happens if you make fun of Kris's feelings.
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>>572046229
>gerson above everything else
protip all the bosses become way more difficult if you keep item use to a minimum
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>572049386
, said Ralsei lying again.
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>>572049386
Lion waitress dumb faggot
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>>572049275
you could dredge up *for
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>>572049136
>source: my ass
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>>572048792
in general, it makes no sense in a setting where transphobia doesn't seem to exist anyway
sure you could say some shit about "forcing to conform to fit in with the prophecy" rather than fitting in with society but that sort of vague allegory would've worked better if the game was released 20 years ago and didn't already have other, better trans and trans allegory characters (waitress lion, mew mew, mettaton)
but again, i'm not going to be in denial of what has already been set up, it was never guaranteed that the story toby had in mind would be any good or be something i'd like, i just have to accept that maybe it won't be and be ready to let go of it
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>>572049482
Drag queens aren't trans stupid fucking chud
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>>572048975
a glue
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stop yelling in front of the flowers :(
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>>572049326
kris joining in with a slingshot
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I won’t be able to talk about Maddie normally for a while now in the thread because these literal faggots are ruining her reputation
grim
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>>572047983
DO NOT LOOK IT UP, Go fucking play it blind if you've got a c4 wr save.
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>>572048921
Is this about that system stuff from tumblr? I'll be honest bro it sounds fake as fuck but also everyone I've talked to that had it was really nice so I don't wanna be mean about it.

I guess it must suck having a body sharing multiple personalities be represented straightforwardly but then have everyone call it trans representation rather than multiple personality representation.
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>>572047683
nah its kris's
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>>572049170
>>572049056
I agree either Nonbinary is a much stronger thematic statement for Ralsei if it reiterates his identity and bond with Kris, or being otherwise neutral about gender altogether so he'll keep doing whatever. It's just that this Male to Female scenario in particular doesn't feel like it fits him, IMO
>>572049363
I mean, that could be interesting, but I think it also falls under the same problem where it doesn't really work as a plot point to try diverging the Prophecy, because I don't believe Ralsei's gender matters to derailing the Prophecy or not at all.
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>>572049307
I want to see Maddie interacting with Jevil and Spamton. I have to imagine all the secret bosses sorta hate each other but still hang out for some reason.
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>>572049062
Anon, Kris is the body in this situation.
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>>572049390
anon a lot of animals are much smarter than we think
while it's true that relatively few of them seem to have higher thinking and reasoning skills that doesn't mean they are mindless machines ONLY puppeted by instinct
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Will WR Kris and Noelle find her?
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This all happened because you didn’t post enough FLOWER MAN.
He will return to save the thread tomorrow.
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>>572043748
What was the narrative point of bringing back a part of the card kingdom for this?
>inb4 Flowery is trying to appeal to Asgore's nostalgia
Asgore doesn't have any nostalgia for the card kingdom.
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>>572049176
We skipped into chapter 7 somehow, so maybe it's more of a chapter skip than a time skip? Knowing Toby, it seems more likely to be meta about the game itself and its chapters than actual time travel.
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Dess has huge MTF vibes
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>Chapter 7 Side B
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>>572049238
When a new game comes out, you can sometimes get around three good threads out of /v/, but that's it. Every other thread on that board is a dumpster fire 24/7.
The board could REALLY stand to have IDs enabled.
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>>572049136
>>572049279
The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments. Please refrain from posting the following:

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Example: "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?..."
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Example: "upboads for le funy maymay trollololololoxdxdxdxd~~!"
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>>572049469
spamton gave me the im gonna make a million dollars a day item im gonna use it
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>>572049136
porn addict is a silly term, but most trannies troon because they consumed a lot of porn or have a fetish they want to play out

>>572049512
he has a point, but only slightly. an otokonoko tagging himself as a tranny is mostly only to increase his reach on twitter, because in reality there's no visual difference between a man in a skirt and a man in a skirt calling himself a woman. a lot of them have onlyfans and need $$$ from all sorts of places
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>>572049726
bitch you made us drown
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>>572049713
Are there any characters that do not
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>>572048012
You are mentally unwell
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>>572049238
Find a hidden thread.
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I though he was Rouxlz when I saw him first too.
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>>572049793
>You are mentally unwell
trans people be like
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>>572049361
c'mon Kris I've been a good soul and done everything in my power to do what you want (that I think you want at least) give us this win
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>>572048632
And the writers have the audacity to ask for money.
Let me drill this in into your head, you subversive terrorist-supporting cretin. Rpgs are made for rpg fans. You give people what they want, thats how a product works. If you have no respect for rpg fans, you shouldn't be making any.
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FLOWER ftMAN
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please
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>>572049713
Just like Toby
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>>572049710
Wait, isn't it possible for us to go back in chapters with stuff so long as it's the same save location?
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Uhh, why does ICE-E kinda look like WR Noelle?
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>>572049853
only if you are a gamer woman (biological)
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https://voca.ro/1dCjh9gTmM3u
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>>572049796
What's that :o
>>572049853
Hmmmm I'm here but not hot!
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>>572049793
why are you posting a bunch of flags that say "bridget is trans" over and over
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>>572049607
nah pluralshit is fake.MPD / Multiple Personality Disorder was taken out of the dsm like 30 yrs ago cause the term implications are wrong. these ppl don't actually have multiple personalities, they're just dissociating bad. hence the modern term DID. Dissociative Identity Disorder
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>>572049793
brother you are arguing with a tranny
from the jump, he will be disingenuous and pretend up is down to make his point
highlighting these words was pointless
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>>572049853
but im right here ...o///o
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>>572049713
Dess is a Mobile Task Force operator? My schizo theory about Hometown being an SCP site is a joke, anon.
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>>572049889
>chef hat
>square head
obviously green
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doing the ch5 weird a second time for the A run
knowing what was gonna happen did not make it less uncomfortable
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i want to milk her tits like cow udders when shes leaned over like this
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>>572049646
Yes, that's why I flipped it, retard.
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>>572049916
No wonder hometown is full of trans folx...
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>>572049664
I watched this film tonight. It was beautiful but overrated
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572049895
fucking gross
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>>572042905
MEW MEW PLEASE FART
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>>572049649
of course they're not mindless machines, but the idea that the penguin felt a sense of longing for it is just stupid. a chimp doing it, yes, that would make sense
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>>572049959
good point
we need maddie in a cowkini, ear tag, cowbell, the works
get to it artists I want to milk my catgirl by 3 pm tomorrow!
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>>572049664
I'm so glad I finally found you.
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I found you.
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FOUND
YOU
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>>572049713
is it because she groomed Kris? based.
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Don't worry Jackboxanon. I finished it yesterday.
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>>572049529
>i'm not going to be in denial of what has already been set up, it was never guaranteed that the story toby had in mind would be any good or be something i'd like, i just have to accept that maybe it won't be and be ready to let go of it
I can believe there's something significant about it for Ralsei gender-wise, just not blue-pink-white MtF stuff. If this is really the story he wants to say I fear for the entire plot's quality as a whole.
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>>572049992
its maybe the tranniest voice i ever heard man i need to purify my ears
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i can't sit down and play anything for more than 1 hour at a time
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>>572049664
They found her!
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what happens if you don't have the bread?
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>>572048384
>doomer penguin ideology of watching people suffer
>penguin who walks the wrong way and is retarded
how are these connected? are you retarded?
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How are we currently feeling about Toby Fox?
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oughhh kris we need to kidnap christmas kris
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Try putting your conversation partner's ideas into your own words and asking them whether those words properly reflect their outlook
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>>572043468
I should have recognized Mew Mew's silhouette in the shop, but the Friend brainrot got me. I still think some of her dialogue seemed suspiciously like it could be foreshadowing an eventual Friend character, that could also be somehow relevant to Kris, but the connections I was drawing on were pretty vague:

>Here, the sunset shines from the back of your eyes, like the afterglow of a light you stared at too long.
[Pink and gold?]

>Up until now, I don't think I realized what loneliness means.
>Now, looking at the sunrise, I finally noticed it. That pang in my heart...
>... I'm going to make friends here. I know it. Lots and lots of friends...
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>>572049834
do you actually want nothing but mass market lowest common denominator slop to be made
do you have no appreciation for the unique, the things that are one of the few or the only examples of their kind, enjoyed by few but beloved by them, even if you aren't one of them
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>>572050017
Most bird brains are stupidly social and more advanced than the average mammals. Most of then mate for life christ
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>>572050074
on god and how narcissistic must you be to record your disgusting voice instead of just typing that. i thought it would be a funny attempt at voice acting a character
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>>572049607
A lot of plurals tend to be trans also and Toby is hitting on a very specific topic. Changes don't stop after transitioning, there's still a lot more about yourself to discover after the fact and it can be terrifying to change even further just as you started feeling comfortable with yourself. But, just as the fight goes, you have to learn to not fear it, and let it become just another new part of who you are.
It's very trans, very Ryukushi coded themes
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>>572050091
sans comes out of the screen and bones you
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>>572050017
much more than chimps have been found to express feelings like that, or at least things that heavily look like them
elephants, dolphins, some spiders, a few birds
it's very possible the penguin was just retarded and ran away, but it's far from concrete
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>>572049895
I think your voice is nice.
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>>572050115
mad lad did it again
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>>572049259
>Mew Mew wants to see Asgore on the daily
Asgorebros it isn't over yet...
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>* Hey anon
>* You gonna be alright to hold on until Chapter 6?
>* I'll be waiting for you~
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shut up or I'll get that fucking parrot to stuff you into the yoshi doll "BALL"
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>>572049664
>>572050084
Monsters vibrate and turn to dust upon death, you silly billies.
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>>572049363
>Biologically female Ralsei
Anon stop I can only get so hard
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>>572050074
>>572050153
Interesting /v/ reaction *tallies it down in notes*
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>>572050115
Starting to wonder if his writing skill are really up to the challenge.
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"Wait, don't! Don't, wait!" were Onionsan's final words btw
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>>572048969
That it was never our fault she was like this, we just showed here there was a path other than quiet suffering.
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>>572050246
I can't edge for that long
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>>572050115
I lost some faith on his writing abilities. Ch6 will make or break my respect for him
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>>572050061
i'm just a very slow player and i haven't had as much time during the week. i like inspecting everything and exploring every area as much as i can looking for rare dialogue. i'm sure i'll beat it this weekend.
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>>572050246
kris is going to kill her offscreen between chapters and ralsei will hide her dust
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>>572050153
>this is le narcissistic that is le narcissistic
have you considered you just hate yourself
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>>572050261
she's not dead
just lost
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I think Blue's overworld sprite is fine, it's just his talk sprite looks WEIRD
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>>572050115
Based, I loved flowery
But god I think Blue is the worst character he's ever made, just bland and uninspired, it feels like a tranne millenial could have made it and nothing would change
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i feel bad for susie now
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>>572050295
Oh god.
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>>572049895
I think your VOICE is *ggrrprhhhftthhhhh* oh sorry I can barely hear you over my own *hic* *BWUUUUAAAARRPPPPPPPP* MIIIII*urp*iiIIIIIKE! MY PIPIS BISMOL!
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I've thought long and hard about this and consulted experts and I do believe this theory has a 101% chance of being true.
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>>572049607
it's a slightly prettier way to describe DID which is also (somewhat) related to a tulpa
it's a real mental illness, like an actual illness, where your brain kind of fights against itself and goes into things that are, for normal people, just intrusive thoughts
the issue comes with the fact that tumblr retards can't help themselves so they just make up every mental illness under the sun and say they have it for pity points, so instead of a perso who is legitimately mentally unwell and has to deal with voices in their head it's just a quirky wholesome chungus xd retard on twitter
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What is sex with Dess like?
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>>572050350
Shhh, you'll summon people making ads for their discords in search of foids again.
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>>572050338
uh oh lil guy did i strike a nerve? hm? did i hurt your feelings? awwwwwwwwwww.
chair. rope. NOW
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>>572050350
Me and FUCKING who?
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>>572050239
it was foretold
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>>572050116
I'd fuck Carol even if she did look like the Grinch.
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/utg/ has become very very interesting
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>>572050478
that would make her sexier
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>>572050454
My fucking KING
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>>572050402
a cat is fine too
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I think Toby managed to make a more black-coded character than Sans and Berdly

>inb4 he's not black-coded he's blue-coded xD
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>>572050246
this was by far the most depressing shit I've ever seen in a videogame and there's not much that comes close.
Yeah I get that Darkners are real people, and Susie would wanna hang out with them but they are at the end of the day still objects with a very short shelf life. And they can't replace real people.
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>>572049895
did you like chapter 5 painter?
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>>572050402
remember when there were the rectangular/square FRIEND eyes in the sweepstakes
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>>572050478
OUUUGH CAROL MAKE ME CUM
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>>572050478
Too hot. Make her “uglier”.
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>>572050156
... As someone with ADHD and probably a bit of the 'tism, I can't help but look at myself and others' issues and ask "Why must the human brain be such a jank piece of crap?". Like, it's never just one thing you have to deal with, it's always multiple things that interact with each other in various goofy ways. Why can't the damn thing just work? Fuck.
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>>572050557
I'm more confused about you calling Berdly black
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>>572050401
Tenna please, your gas is frying my vocal cords and making me sound even trannier
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>>572049272
I guess jumping from save to save is basically time travel and a determination ability
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>>572050115
Still hopeful, but...

...I liked Chapter 5, but on some level it also felt like what everybody was expecting every chapter to be after Chapter 2 happened (villain of the week, barely relevant secret boss, le lore remains vaguely hinted at because even Asgore can't bring himself to say what exactly happened) and before Chapters 3 and 4 seemed to make bigger changes in the expected trajectory. Even the real-world drama with Rudy dying is something we've been expecting since Chapter 1.
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>>572050507
I think you mean miserable
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>>572050557
This is the worst character in the Undertale/Deltarune Universe and nobody can convince me otherwise
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>>572049895
Mysterious Wind...
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>>572050646
Blerdly
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>>572050478
where are her wrinkles she can't see without her wrinkles
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>>572050589
It has been foretold for a long time... we are just ahead of the curve!
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>>572048668
I expect it. Noelle will not be in a good place tomorrow.
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>>572050428
you're so transparently emotional and most importantly you've been shitting up the thread. maybe you should rope yourself.
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>>572050478
Hot mature adult sex with mature adult woman
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>>572050478
I'm sorry Noelle I'll help make you a new sister.
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JOBery...
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Human, what do you want me to remember?
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>>572050628
side effect of being extremely adaptable
lizards don't deal with much in the way of mental illness, but lizard things are all they will ever do
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>>572048725
Anyone got a full res pic of this to use as a wallpaper?
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I really hope chapter 5 was deliberately crammed with all the shit that he knew would poison all discussion just to get it all out of the way for future chapters
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good early morning chat
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>>572050628
have you seen how our biology works
it's a miracle we're still alive sometimes
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>>572050709
No.
Interesting.
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>>572050402
wait i just got that mettaton ex's form would have a little hint of the FRIEND smile if that's his ghost form, the lines on his cheek are like his wide toothy smile
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>>572050454
ASGORE COME TRABA
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>>572049913
The only real DID cases are people who experienced extreme trauma in early childhood and system speak was necessary for them to not go full schizo. Most systems people on tumblr and vrchat are autistic furries in a long chuuni phase who self diagnose DID in adulthood.
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>>572050646
it's pretty widely accepted that berdly is black
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Why can’t we all just get along? Why do we have to be so mean?
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>>572049259
>>572050239
>>572050454
Fuckin'... is Kris about to get cucked by their dad?
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>>572050562
why not? the basic thesis statement of the whole game is that darkners are just like how we, irl, play games/watch movies/etc and care about the lives of fictional characters
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How did Susie learned Jevil spell
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>>572050557
I think Blue is a fine character
The whole problem is he's straight up a gay black guy wearing a tutu
All the other humans besides Flowery are so much more stylized he sticks out very awkwardly
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toby fox raped me
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>>572050709
Les miserables...
Tenna said looking at his soggy burritos
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>>572050574
I enjoyed it, I’m a little more on the neutral side.
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>>572050562
They can. Just like waifus can replace real women.
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>>572049607
idk man if i could eat a pill to never sleep or eat or drink water for the rest of my life i would and i hate the fact that i do
also if you've ever watched the thing, john carpatener was once interviewed on where he gets his horror inspiration from and he said it comes from his belief that deep down we're all disgusted with our own bodies
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>>572049916
if you keep spreading shit you'll end up with class A amnestics down the underground got it?
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>>572050557
As soon as I saw him I knew he would mindbreak the the /v/ tourists and we would never have a decent thread again. Well, him and the Ralsei stuff. I must be psychic...
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>>572050849
Maddie is hanging out in castle town from now on because she wants to be an anime girl forever
She's getting the kriss thussy/thoner whether she likes it or not (her body really, really, really likes it, maddie might not)
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>>572050557
This is the representation I needed
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>>572050864
I wish Toby leaned into his butterfly thing more. Especially the face sprites where you had the faces on the back of the butterfly, they could've made that his whole thing where he's always turned away from you and is presenting his "face" on his back and wings
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>>572050947
hey we also have troons here aswell
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>>572050712
That would be Jerry
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>>572050860
Maybe if the chapters didn't come out fucking years apart I would remember what actually happened.
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>>572050557
I don't have any problem with Blue. He didn't take up too much screentime or anything. Tokens are cool in my book.
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>>572050839
im hesitant to say thats a healthy way to cope but i guess i dont know more than just reading one page abt it the other day
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>>572050847
You know when Asriel said there were a lot of Floweys out there? Yeah... a lot of people thrive on causing pain and misery.
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>>572050246
I know you cant eat in the dark world but you can apparently sleep and take a shower just fine so i dont get the rules here
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>>572051002
Yeah especially since Blue seems related to the everyman butterflies/gaster skelebros (blue soul mode) stuff
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>>572049895
This is how Tenna sounds like in my head.
>>572050824
That's actually really true wow I like that it really does look like his smile, i doubt that in specific was intentional but maybe it was! here's more Mettaton is FRIEND/Knight fuel for you if you haven't seen it.
https://rentry.org/mettatonknight
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>>572050962
Chapter 6 happens.
If you drowned Noelle before, Ice-E looks like this.
All characters ignore it.
What do you do?
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>>572047824
>https://x.com/puppygirlfag67/status/2070625453
Genuine question, why would Mewmew's doll body have a cock? The ghost body could maybe have one but it makes literally no sense for the doll body
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>>572045430
>carol laughing and having fun
roping
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>>572050402
>Mettaknight
>Mettafriend
>Mettagaster
Any other Mettaton transformations I need to know about?
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>>572051016
Jerry was fun to mock at least, this blue gay nigger from the outer dark world is just a pretentious retard that Toby expects you to like
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im gonna make a second maddie thread if you guys force me to make it again btw
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>>572051153
asgore is into futa porn
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>>572051153
it wouldn’t the person who made that is a troon
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I'm Jockingtoning it, I'm Jockingtoning it, ouuurrrggghhhhh
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>>572051153
Not the anon you’re replying to, but the body became a darkner. It’s not 1:1 with the original figure any more than Lancer is with a playing card
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>>572051153
the figurine could have a cock
unlikely, but it's porn so
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>>572051153
I think it's hotter that way
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>>572050913
if no one needed me i would be dead within the week
i have no interest in doing anything purely for myself
uhh says fave
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>>572050921
I understand, but why are Noelle and Meri the same person? Like, even the part about dating a grouchy tomboy, it's fucking uncanny.
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>>572051153
Trans has become a synonym for futa or trap
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>>572050840
me when I lie on the internet
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>>572051086
>so i dont get the rules here
Neither does Toby, he wrote one throwaway line for a minor shop character almost a decade ago and forgot about it.
Susie sleeps in the dark world because she doesn't want to live her shitty life, and she will experience zero consequences for it, just like how Ralsei can somehow travel between dark worlds despite darkners presumably only being able to live in "their" dark world/castle town.
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>>572049913
>>572050839
You don't know what you're talking about and it shows. So I don't know why you're so intent on trying to disprove it
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>>572050156
I never really liked the trans interpretations of Yasu because I feel they're a reductive view of their struggles with gender, but I can definitely see mewmew's fight mirroring the themes of dissassociation and multiple personality legitimacy in Umineko.
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i keep getting old prompts poooooooooooooop
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black ralsei.. i missed you
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>>572051153
>Genuine question, why would Mewmew's doll body have a cock?
becomes it makes my penis the big penis (not bigger than her penis though)
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>>572051173
*saxophone cover of Death by Glamour*
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Why trans when you could sans?
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>>572051385
Same! Was cute to see again
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Kris killed Dess in a prank turned horrible accident
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>>572051076
It makes me really sad that people can experience art like Undertale and Deltarune and still choose to be like that. It makes me feel really hopeless. Like there’s nothing we can do to make things better for everyone. I need to take a long break from this thread.
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>>572051412
>>572051412
>>572051412
The Threadcrumbs lead here...
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>>572051326
Brotha made it his full time job to hate Flowery
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>>572051086
you can, it just doesn't fill you up because you're eating pocket lint and stickers and shit
and who says showering actually does anything in the dark world? susie could be stinky as shit for all we know, not like noelle would have any complaints
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>>572051391
>not bigger than her penis though
BASED
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>>572051153
I wouldn't think too hard about it anon
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>>572043880
Give 3 examples?
>last breath resurrection
>dusttale reimagined
>swapfell the harsh truth
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>>572050557
I think Toby was aware he's a little too much for the audience which is why he had the least amount of screentime
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>>572051324
Like most poorly-executed "Escapism... Bad!" messages, Tobert wants to have his cake and eat it with the fantasy world.
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>>572051385
I really wanted to see him wear the hat without the shadow. Would have felt thematic
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>>572051427
(UPROARIOUS APPLAUSE AND CHEERING)
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Which UTDR character would fit as an Aqua Teen Hunger Force villain?
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>>572051443
Same friend, I can't deal with this shit right now. Chapter 5 made me feel so optimistic and emotional and then the way people act here just make me miserable...
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We need more Maddie bikini art. As an anime girl, she respect the time honored tradition of the beach episode.
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>>572051326
>Ralsei saves Susie with fire magic
>they both make a point of acknowledging this is unique, something new, something neither of them knew he could do
>it's never brought up again in the entire chapter, despite all the enemies being fucking PLANTS
I thought for one brief, wonderful second we were going to have another Snowgrave on our hands but nope, back to gay drama between every conceivable character pairing.
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>>572051153
Because it makes the porn better, anon, And in a not-insubstantial way it reaffirms their transfemininity. Mewmew isn't just a vaugely transgender blob, they are pretty much "If Metatton was a woman"
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>>572050628
Because our brain was developed to run PS1 games, while the civilized society problems we face are like Switch games
For example marriage is a complete social construct, we are not biologically programmed to be loyal to one partner, which is why we must force our brain to not cheat
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>>572051287
Because the "modern" SCP-166 is a Noelle knockoff and was written after Deltarune to sanitize something that made people uncomfortable despite that being the whole fucking point.
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>>572048969
I'll always believe Toby's biggest mistake was the answer he gave about Lightner merch. He completely spoiled that Noelle would be revealed to a terrible person. It won't happen until next chapter, but with the Weird Route you can clearly see it now.
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>>572051287
Because a goddess of nature can have more than 1 child
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>>572051659
Wasn't they're originally the mother of the Tickle Monster?
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>desperately doesnt want you to read anything anime-related
>refuses to even acknowledge the word tsundere
>but loves ramune
performative anti-weeb brat
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>>572050557
i can understand people rolling their eyes or whatever and i agree with that other anon who said he looks too much like an actual human, but i thought the gag where his talksprite was sometimes a rotoscoped butterfly, and the butterfly would have an angry expression painted on its back sometimes, was really funny
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>>572042905
>Blue is a MAN ballerina to defy gender stereotypes
>Blue is also GAY

Why am I not surprised?
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>>572051793
it's ironically a massive stereotype at this point
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>>572051763
My first thought was that Alphys really pissed them off in some past experience, but I wonder if Asriel had anything to diwth it.
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>>572051287
Because millenial creatives grew up with similar life experiences and thus have similar ideas
It's why both Scott Cawthon and Alex Hirsch had an idea for haunted animatroncs independently
It's also why both Toby and Omocat had an idea for an RPG about supernatural occurences caused by the mysterious death of an older sister figure... allegedly independently
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>>572051760
No, that was the gal of the protocol montauk
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>>572051763
>refuses to even acknowledge the word tsundere
When did this happen.

Please understand, Alphy is their teacher
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>>572051835
>"Look! This man is doing a ballet! And he's gay!"

It's like a Tumblr oc back in 2015
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>>572051906
Wrong
The original 166 wasn't a deer, it was a succubus
The current garbage version was explicitly "inspired" by Noelle
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>>572051941
I'm talking about the original Teenage Succubus, before she was rewritten to remove any hints of pedophila.
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>>572051763
>desperately doesnt want you to read anything anime-related
>refuses to even acknowledge the word tsundere
Honestly based, bullying weebs is just one more thing for us to bond over
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>>572048921
"Plurality" is about roleplaying and pretending it's a serious part of your identity to try to force other people to engage in your RP
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>>572051287
Who's Meri?
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>>572048725
>background has a rose
Mew Mew will give you a Thorn Ring after she comes to Castle Town
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>>572052319
I can't believe there are still people stuck in cope mode on this. You're not getting another thorn ring, buddy.
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>>572051947
chapter 4, examining the cactus in the Dreemurr house
>* (It's a cactus. It loves you, but mainly shows a sharp side.)
>* (If only there was a word for that kind of personality.)
(2nd examine)
>* (A word you liked.)

Chapter 4 again, examining the cactus is Noelle's room
>*(It's a Christmas cactus.)
>* (You remember it's named 'Krismas.')
>Noelle: * Umm, this cactus? Berdly calls it "Tsuntsun..."
(2nd examine)
* (It's a cactus that apparently got poorly renamed at some point.)
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>>572052408
Kris is tsundere.
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>>572052408
>Teacher won't shut up about shitty anime
>Dad spends most of his time watching anime on his underwear
>Even bought a fucking anime figure
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very controversial thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1uga47n/heres_why_i_think_chapter_5_not_following_up_on/

a lot of people are unhappy
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>>572051525
Aqua its in her name lol
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How old is Orange again? I thought she was basically like eight.
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>>572051287
>Dating a grouchy tomboy,
Where? I don't see any mention of Scp 166 dating anyone
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>>572049914
This is how Ralsei feels when a fucking mouse calls itself a human.
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>>572052010
>>572052041
>as even the lightest clothing tends to cause pressure ulcers (bedsores) within 45 minutes of constant wear, SCP-166 is allowed to go nude for medical purposes
>upon catching sight of her, 100% of male test subjects became enamoured of her and attempted immediate sexual contact, regardless of their normal sexual orientation.
Okay I disagree with the direction of the SCP wiki a lot of the time but this was 100% just someone's wank material. Probably they could have switched it for something other than literally Noelle from deltarune but this is a terrible article
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>>572051335
I have a phd in neuroscience but okay, anon. Your tumblr buddies are heckin valid!
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>>572052687
How is she inspired by Noelle? Deer girls existed before her you know
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>>572052825
Says how much you know about the brain and psychology that you don't know how little thatd actually matter
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>>572052614
She's either:
A) 18+ years old if start counting her age from when Asgore first grew her, for his and Toriel's wedding.
B) Like a few hours old if you start counting from when the Dark Fountain gave her higher sapience.
Same goes for every other flower.
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mew thread
>>572053079
>>572053079
>>572053079
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>>572053117
anon.......
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>>572052849
I was just taking the other anons at their word but you're right, she's just a regular deer girl

Funnily enough though, you can tell it's not a RECENT rewrite because it still has Dr. Light in it and that character got unpersoned from the wiki years ago because the real user who came up with it turned out to be a pedo
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>>572050402
nah its actually gaster because gaster is a ghost of a skeleton
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>>572050402
Okay this is a good one
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>>572050557
>Sans is blue
>Berdly is blue
>Blue is blue
Kris wears blackface in the dark world
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>>572053117
someone DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION
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>>572053203
It was rewritten in 2020 for reference
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>>572050860
She didn't, Scythemare is just a pun and it has no relation to Jevil mechanically
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>>572053203
What about the "dating tomboy" part? I know the SCP fandom is now filled with troons but I actually don't remember that part
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>>572051326
agendarune peak
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>>572053747
There's a bunch of tales with 166 if you check the teenage-gaea tag so I'm guessing it's something from one of those? But even then, that would be different from her actually being made as a Noelle reference
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https://youtu.be/fqGKZ3fzN1M
>Rudy and Carol post Chapter 5 Weird Route
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>>572042905
what's with all the gay deltatroons? jesus christ
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>>572050150
As long as there are no gays or troons, yeah
I have no appreciation whatsoever for subversive types, because they destroy until theres nothing left and the medium is ruined for everyone



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