>Crushing the dance floor editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>572324947>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived.https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2 (check /vm/ for general)Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Are Arbites THE chud class?
Ideas for new classes>Psyker who is actually in perfect control of his abilities, no risk of blowing up or becoming a host>Ogryn who is actually very intelligent, some sort of freak of nature>Ork that is calm and polite and speaks with a posh accent>Zealot who actually hates the emperor>Space Marine who never underwent the gene thing so he's just a regular guy in regular sized power armor and talks like a normal guy >Slaneesh demonette who hates sex and excess
>>572403256Yes they are chuds (based)
thoughts on frogclick?https://store.steampowered.com/app/3081510/Gang_of_Frogs/
>>>572402507I don't think you do.It takes 50 "swag points" that you get from Reaper minis to get the Reaper t-shirt. 1 point per mini, so I have at least 50. And all Reaper minis are metal.That's not even accounting for all the GW and Ral Partha minis that are metal. A faglord like you probably doesn't even have the metal Chaos Dreadnought that looks super cool.
>>572403763idk hth
>>572403651you're really defying my expecations rn
>>572403763looks like claude helped a lot in that games development
What do I do to get stronger in Darktide after hitting level 30? do I just fish out for maxed weapons in the medal shop?
>>572403651demonette sounds the sexiest so i'll take that
>>572404070go to the shrine of the omnissiah to upgrade your weaponsmax out weapon masteries by using them
>>572403256>>572403721and it's a buddy comedy where the uptight cop has to work together with a laid back drug user
>>572404070>do I just fish out for maxed weapons1. Go to search engine of your choice and research the dump stat for your chosen weapon/s (it's likely mobility) and best blessings2. Roll Brunt's armoury until you get the right minmax3. Hadron it up from there - consecrate/empower up to max, swap traits/blessings to most optimalIt's "boring" to those seeking the thrill of RNG, but it cuts out so much wasted time on busywork and chance rolls.
Give ogryn meltagun and heavy bolter.He's the melee frontliner, having a short range Fuck You gun, fits him perfectly.
Is darktide a fun game to play with just two players, not matching with pubs or anything? Was thinking about grabbing the game on sale with a friend but we always just play games as a duo because the added challenge is fun. The game looks fun but from what I read we'd only ever really be able to play the game when we're both online, since there's no actual solo option.
>>572404840Never ever EVER going to happen on GW's watch, secondary
>>572404840He has two shotguns. You don't use either of them because they're trash. Dialogue ended.
>>572404876no.
>>572404876You can set it to private but bots suck and there are disabler enemies that lock you down. It would be miserable.
>>572404840>Darkshite has been out for 4 years and still no heavy stubber for Veteran.WHERE IS IT?
>>572405086same place that full length eviscerator behind him isin a better place, some concept artist's imagination, instead of this dogshit game
>>572405354member when they teased us with icons for a two-handed chain axe?
>VE skit with arc maul>trying to do malfunction penance>zealot named ClankersGetOut>shadowed my every move >killed all of the elite gunners before I could reach them with FoTF>blew up barrels as I went near themAnnoying but you have to respect the commitment to the bit.
>want to play Ogryn>remember I already played all ogryn weapons and builds ad nauseum damn
>>572405479Why is this company so allergic to working on their game? If any other game studio was in control we'd be on our sixth new class, on top of a boatload of new weapons, chaos wastes mode, story actually going somewhere, better customization, etc etc but its like they're actively sabotaging themselves. Pains me to imagine what the game COULD be
>>572405086>no stubber>no melta>no hellgun>no las volleyIs vet the most JUST class? At least ogryns are supposed to just be given random trash because they break shit too often
Is a fanning revolver aimbot build fun, seems like it would be on paper but>ammo
>>572403763Looks like risk of rain but with graphicsI didn't like risk of rain
Skitarii femboys in skimpy robes...
>>572405948>Just lost one of their very few class exclusives (plasmagun) to the skiggers.At least we have latrine shovels
have a lot of fun playing blitlezz voltaic transonic blade skittles. :) it'll feel so weird going back to my 2h maul dogbitrator now. tho it will be refreshing not seeing so many skitarii
huh what does this option even do and why is it off by default?
>>572406290I forgot the power falchion too. Veterans are so cucked.
>>572406567Falchion feels so much better to play on skit, and the auto reload talent on plasma feels better than the weapon specialist talent that vet has.
>>572406507idk
Be warned, this Mary Sue, Isekai fan-fiction will absloutely destroy anyone who is autistic or not who can't accept fan-fiction that doesn't follow the lore and history of 40k by the TIt also has some very, very rare yuri momentshttps://www.royalroad.com/fiction/132259/lost-and-found-warhammer-40k-si
Is there any reason to use heavy attack on tactical axe? I tried it on meat grinder but light attacks kills everyrhing faster
Tranny blades feel fucking amazing.
>>572404876I think you guys should stop being such fags desu, most players are just people like you or just go on disc and find 2 more people to play with.
>tried playing a little arbites before bed>literally falling asleep at the screen
>every mortis trial is one in progress
>>572407375How do I get into Mortis Trail, I need to do it for my Skitarii
>>572405863Swedes work ~12 weeks out of the year.
>>572407559Sefoni's menu.
>let's design an event björk >ok sven what will it be? >we'll make two factions fight so it will be interesting>wow sven that sounds great, but how do we motivate players to pick each faction?>ok björk listen to this: one side gets damage, attack speed and coherency radius..>wow! thats crazy! whats the other side gonna get? >uh, fire damage.
How viable is a run and gun Scum with dual shivs and speed stimms?I'm having fun but I don't know if it will hold up on later difficulties
>>572407375Don’t post my wife
>>572407375Okay, and?
>>572405948no m32 grenade launcher either
>>572407748>you're ridiculous, Sven
>>572407758It works quite well.though cooldown is the preferred stimm to gun more often. speed is fine if you want more run in your gun and more gun in your run, but less overall gun time.
>>572407815Joining one in progress doesn't count for the penance.
>>572407748>misplace the decimal point>coherency radius is decreased in size instead of expanded>vacation!
>>572406507is that why people were complaining that their voices didn't sound like the voxcaster previews
>mortis trials and expeditions obviously have less players than everything elseFS really needs to ties mortis and expeditions completions to melk's contracts or something, it's basic gameplay loop and player interaction mechanicsif people hate a game mode, you make them play it by giving them rewards tied to melk's weekly contractsand you should be able to exchange melk's contracts currency for materials too, because who actually buys his unoptimized weapons or curios?I suppose you could just buy the weapons and sell them after, but still
>>572408498outside of random rolls in the shop melk is the only other way to roll for curios
>>572408172Honestly I just do the speed tree as well as CDR just so I can reload faster, but it is also very fun just to become a crackhead knife whirlwind as well
Round 3 of trying to convince an anon to play no rest for the wicked, on ultra hard mode, with me.
>>572408498Nobody gives a fuck about contracts though, melkbux are literally worthless except to roll for curios
>>572405863I think it's cowardice, and not just Fatshark. I think pathetic balding upper management devs look at their game and think - "We have this income, and anything we change about the game = risk. People could start hating it, some influential streamer could dump on it, and then suddenly our income is gone"
so reginald saved the trans slicers?
>>572408187It does, I did it that way. Did you try or are just assuming?
>>572408498>>572408687>>572408863I don't want to say this out loud, as I fear I will be "eaten by the shark" so to speakbut I think you should be awarded with aquilas for completing melk's contracts, even just a little bit, we were able to earn shillings back on ratclick which we would use to buy some cosmetics, granted not all hats were purchasable with shillings but it was better than nothing. plus it gives people a reason to play weekly towards something and to grind for during the end game
>>572409183How so?
>>572408863NTA but>you should be able to exchange melk's contracts currency for materials tooCertainly would help melkbux not be so worthless
>>572409359I've tried multiple times, joining one in progress does not count for the skitarii penance.
>>572409431i think the only hats buyable are the ones in commendation chests
>>572408260It's even worse than that. The buff is called COHERENY_RADIUS_MULTIPLIER or something to that effect. The value they gave it? 0.25. Swedes can't even do basic math anymore
What is the fastest way to get the cube resource?
>>572409951finishing active events or just running auric missions, farming twins is probably a pretty quick way to get it too
>>572409506Strange, worked on my machine :)
On controller holding L1, then picking a marker with the right stick, then letting go of L1 and getting the ping you actually want is the hardest input I've ever had to deal with. I cannot consistently do it. It's harder than a Zangief spinning pile driver.
>>572406925Tranny blades unironically (but kind of ironic, thoughbeit) feels worse than the devils claw. Devils claw benefits from all the same talents and even has a dedicated FUCK RAGERS button.
>>572410441The trans blades can cleave 3 crushers at once
>>572410553So can Chudclaw.
>>572410684>>572410553Just realized I might have caused confusion, I mean to say that the chordclaw can cleave crushers to make up for the devils claws shortcoming.
>>572410684I need the capacitance for my skull
>>572410816Don't worry. I realized that
>>572410821Letting the servo skull farm kills for you is like letting the bvll plow your wife.
>>572411212What a mentally ill and cringy thing to say
>>572410048Weekly Havoc reward gives a good amount,
>>572411212What a mentally sound and based thing to say.
>>572411412I get it. You like to watch, I'm not judging you dude.
>>572411587Kill yourself, porn addicted, tranny freak
>>572411674It's a fucking joke, chill out dumbass.Why can't servospergs take light banter?
>mr estrogen made a video talking about how strong the servo skull isShut up. Don't let fatshit know about this
The more I play the more I dislike vanguards.Every horde ends with a bunch of these guys just hanging around scratching their balls so you have to go out of your way to bonk them over and over before you can move on. So insanely boring.People have taken to straight up ignoring them and running past them because they take so long to kill while they do basically nothing.
>>572411964I think the cat's been out of the bag for a while now.
>>572411894Again, go kill yourself
>>572411964literally everyone knows the other 2 blitzes are worthless
>>572411212>you having a wife
>>572412201And i'm afraid that this means that they'll make the servoskull useless too
>>572412891I really don't give a fuck if they nerf the skull. It's not particularly fun to use or anything, it's just there.
can someone explain to me the chinese havoc 40 drama
>>572413526chinks dont know what ping or timezones are and they think they're really good at the game so they think whitey goes to china servers with fake names to get carried
>>572413764the solution is clear, rangeban china
>>572411452How do you get that?
>>572414393Finish havoc matches weekly
>>572414393play a havoc once a week. increased reward depending on havoc tier (1-10,11-20,etc)
What is the skull thing everyone uses that skips minigames?
>>572408863>melkbux are literally worthlessmy personal theory is that melk's currency was supposed to be used to buy cosmetics but got scrapped out at the last minutebecause who the fuck would possibly think "hmm yes weekly quests and a very limited currency for... the exact same shit on the regular store but a higher rarity level" from the beginning?completely fucking retarded. No I think Melk had an actual inventory of interesting items, maybe the shitload of unreleased items in the game files, but their chinese overlords said it would interfere with cash shop sales and they had to quickly replace Melk's purpose with random dogshit.
>>572414732All skitarii who don't replace their skulls with a shitty blitz can do that
>>572414743Well, that was how ratclick cosmetics worked and it was good.
>>572411412>>572411674>>572412129careful not to shortcircuit
>>572415590Yes and also Fatfuck Hedge letting it slip that you would be able to earn the premium cosmetic currency ingame and doing damage control after claiming it was a statement taken out of context
How hard is auric storm survivor to get nowadays?
>>572416386it gets easier the longer you play the gameyou can still cheese it by just leaving the game before you die while you're still down
>>572403085>Game where i'm doing well, clearing hordes, killing all the specialists before they can pop off, basically solo the bosses by myself and topping the scoreboard>My entire team decides to all get downed at the same time>Game where i'm doing poorly, get ledged, toxbomber'ed, overheaded out of nowhere>THIS is the game where my team decides to lock in and winI am so fucking sick of this shit bro.Honest to god thinking that i give my entire team some false sense of security by playing as well as i do.
>>572416386It's a lot easier if you only choose the easy modifiers
>>572416560they never fixed that?
>>572401930I am unironically loving the fuck out of "Flesh and Steel." All of the Warhammer Crime books are set in the Hive City of Varangantua on the world Alecto, and that entire sub-setting are extremely insulated from the rest of the Imperium's conflicts.
>>572416657>insecure retard self reports himself as the dumbass who constantly runs ahead >still fucking complains when he gets carried Just post your name so you can be the first on my block list, holy fuck.
>>572417050nta but i play in malice exclusively can i be added to your block list? i dont want to bother you with my dogshittery
>>572417119if you play malice you're not going to run into anyone here
>>572417119I don't think you gonna ruin my fun time aurics between havocs on malice bro.
every mission has to have one dented speedrun tranny who dies alone and instaquits
>>572417217yeah im a tourist i came here to play whenever they added skitarii its the only class i have
>>572417396you may run into me on malice when there are events (i'm done leveling my stuff up so at the least I'll play heresy)
>>572417396welcome to this thread
What scoreboard mod is everyone using?
>>572419186unless you care about autistic analysis get the one called "vt2 scoreboard" it's got the best, least intrusive layout
>>572419186This is the hot new scoreboardhttps://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/887
scoreboard is for gayniggers and you should be roped
>>572419186Stop using mods.
>>572419256this is actually far less informative when buildcrafting
>>572419186I do not scoreboard. I simply know.
>>572419263Little bitch doesn't like the fact that we can so how bad he sucks
>>572419319If you don't care about autistic overanalysis it's finebuildcrafting is more fun when you don't obsess over numbers anyway
>>572419361nigger
>>572419256>green circleswew it's perfect thanks>>572419280I'm gonna use it even harder now
>>572419319Then get Power DI
THEY TOOK MY BALLS, THEY TOOK MY FUCKING NUTSACK HELP ME /coopg/
What is the difference between power and strenght in melee weapons?
>>572419564lol idk y u askin me
>>572419564Same thing
>>5724196701 blessing gives strenght and another gives power. Why is there 2 terms for the same thing?
>>572419559hoyl fuck
>>572419559Is just some balls. Now the path is free. You know the one...
>>572419280As soon as they fix their game.
>>572419748Good question. Just know that strength/power is better than pure damage
>>572419748they renamed power to strength (nobody knows why) and apparently forgot in some places
ok i took the noosphericpill
What do you reckon are the chances that Fatshark actually fixes any of the gamebreaking bugs Skitarii has before they fuck off for their mandatory 6 week post-content drop vacation?
>>572420772Just before they walk out the door, they will slap a massive bandaid that drastically overpowers some element of skitarii to compensate for the bugs. In doing so it will also make ogryn worse. This will remain for several months until their summer migration ends and they return to the office pastures.
>>572420772Behold, history is cyclic>a patch drops this week designed to fix skitarii and buff a few things>it accidentally makes noospheric skull do millions of damage a round by itself>they do a hotfix the very next day to put a stop to it>their idea of fixing it? nerf noospheric skull until it's a dead node>also they broke 1 keystone so badly it no longer functions, no one knows how or why when there should've been nothing in the hotfix related to it>it's not fixed for 3 months>noosphere is never returned to its at-launch statethis curse I lay upon you, as a former arbites dog enjoyer
I hate trappers
I love traps
I trap haters
>Take Noospheric>Download AutoTarget Mod>???>PROFITS BOYS SO MUCH PROFIT
help where did /hdg/ go
>>572422017thread got deleted because someone kept posting nsfw of the bug girl
Did my first expedition, not too bad. We found a data reliquary, can I safely chuck it at the door to the next area or will it despawn if we get too far away?
>>572422193persistent objects
>>572406002Tried an aimbot fan-hammer skittle meme build on damnation.Not the most effective, but does give you a cool feeling seeing a group of ranged elites drop one by one.Surprisingly good monstrosity damage, had two daemonhost spawns, both of which the retard ogryn aggroed. Both were promptly vaporized by me and the clawskit on the team.Didn't run into any ammo problems, but I was also engaging in melee for hordes (dual blades).
>>572422017they got lazy, letting the thread fall off page 10. Truly our coop brothers. It'll be back soon probably.
>>572422190>>572422017>>572422463Kek they really are reaching the end of their lifespans… all must come to an end…
>>572422260
do people even still talk about helldivers here
>>572422693its not banned or anything, but the thread caters mostly to skitarii discussion at the moment
>>572422017/hdg/ are too lazy to bake a new bread at 750 posts yet wonder why it disappears
>>572422693It's not a very interesting game to discuss beyond fake and gay performative nonsense similar to DRG's "rock and stone" and "the community is so wholesome" cringe, which isn't all that interesting either.
>>572422693Darktide brought in a massive influx of mentally ill people.You can talk about hd2 or DRG every now and then but if it dominates the discussion, the resident autsit will have his melty.Not really that big of an issue now since somehow both of those games are in a worse state than darktide. But back when tide was on life support it was pretty unbearable.
>>572422693>do people even talk about not-darktide in the darktide generalno
Wait can automed skitty witty self rez?
>on near cue Lmfao.
>>572423124it cannot, no, since your grenade key is suppressed whenever you're kissing the floor
>>572423197Does the floor kiss back?
>>572423278what? oh, sorry anon. im practicing using figures of speech for my autism counselor. i just mean that "kissing the floor" means you're downed, like you loose your hitpoints and they got to 0 and you're downed and someone has to move up to you and press E or I guess a skitarii can move a skull onto your body and revive you that way. it's not like death or whatever because you can still tag enemies and even sic your servo skull onto them while youre downed just not self-rez or anything
>>572423278Only when it has pox gas floor growths.
>>572423291>>572423291>>572423291
>>572423489we're on page 2?? wtf are you doing you dumbass?
leandivers
>>572422017/hdg/ has been postponed until we can deliver a thread that we're proud of and you will love to playjust another two weeks or months idk it's dinner time
for the love of god fatshark, stop separating america by coast, just buy a server in texas and combine themthe west has fallen
How is this still the only good coop game though wtf
>>572419186I like ovenproof (the community patched one). It's lighter weight than Power DI but has better information than the original scoreboard and the VT2esque one I've seen posted a few times.
>>572419748>Why is there 2 terms for the same thing?
>>572423979because you're in an echochamber
woooo 50% done curse of malfunction and then i never have to touch volatic cuckmitter ever again
>>572423979>the only goodIt isn't. It is, however, one of the most replayable.
>>572424451Its bugged. Any slight change of elevation and it doesn't work.
what is up with the spawn, just hand relic in ruins (vent purge) on consignment yard it decided to spawn 20 snipers in the finale, ive had sniper gauntlet vent purge that didnt spawn that many snipers
>>572424515WE KNOW
Whats your favorite "Fuck you I like it" sub-optimal off meta build.
>>572424561your game director's available units are selected via seeding and often switches to a second seed somewhere around the midpoint-- as with anything procgen, sometimes you can get a real silly one.
>>572424561That's what happens when you're doing a bad job at killing the snipers
How come there no coop loot shooters in fantasy settings? It's literally ideal shit for dungeon diving and collecting loot
>>572424960
>>572424960Bullrush pickaxe ogryn
>>572425402I've been wanting something more than Barony in this respect for a while
>>572423979It’s not the only one, all the others are just a decade old and even older
>>572424561Had the same on I think consignment yard last night. Got to the end and suddenly it was 8 mutants in a row every 2 seconds. Their screams overlapping sounded like an ai metal band. So many that no matter where we dodged we all got picked up and tossed. Then half a dozen snipers, some dogs, and flames allnat once.
>>572424960Ogryn with twin stubber
>all of these box bitch hive scum in havoc teams>not a single fucker running shivs and rampageholy fuck, it's literally just zealot 2.0, first chorus sluts now this
>>572425962They're a ~~Support Class~~ pls no bully!
>>572425962Not my fault 2 out of 3 Zealot abilities sucked dick in Havoc PUGs
>>572425962Box bitches are midliners because being a rampage frontliner takes actual skill
>>572425962box is literally the only ability in havoc that doesn't fuck you
>>572424960Judge me all you want, I don't go down and I still snipe-a da specials and krak-a da armor in aurics anyway. In hindsight because I haven't reviewed the details of this build in a while, the whole "give toughness to allies" thing is probably not doing as much as I'd like and I should probably drop GH from my plasma for that. I like the node regardless though because it gives me more uptime on a full-powered Close Order Drill.https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a224cbe6-318d-450b-ba44-dcefec0a8bef/look-at-me-i-am-the-melee-now
>>572426374>ChaxeYou're automatically a cool guy. I used to run it a bunch on my Zealot
>>572426463Dude it's so fucking good and simple, dual strength blessings is wild. Though, again upon reviewing it, I wonder if I might get more out of dropping one of them for Opportunist because the thing staggers like crazy too.
>>572426374>melee veteranThe skitarii are here now. You don't have to do this
>>572426541Can't remember using Opportunist on it for some reason or another. It's been a long time since I ran it though. Gonna have to change that
>>572426645Oh it still shoots plenty, I just don't like being made out of paper and defenseless when I inevitably have to fight an entire horde off of myself and can't shoot anyway. I'm more or less building my skitarii the same way (plasma gun with ADC is stupid btw, if Vets didn't have gold toughness they'd be on total suicide watch right now). I really wish Skit got more flat toughness on their tree though, like desperately wish I could have one more toughness node holy fuck. I would have thought the fuckers half made of metal would be tougher than this.
YES PLEASE JUST GIVE ME INFINITE SHIELD NIGGERS, DELETE EVERY OTHER ENEMY I WANT ALL THE ENEMIES ON SCREEN TO HAVE A SHIELD AND 100000 HEALTH PLEASE!
>>572426868I guess they make up for it by getting 50% toughness per second
>Skit already higher level than Hive ScumHive Scum is truly so busted that it becomes boring after a couple games. Meanwhile, Skitari feels like I still have to actually try.
>>572426868They added toughness to the auras, why not add it to the capstone as well.
>>572426979I was just cracking open Reginald's video about them and desu he makes a good point, I do think their HP is probably a mistake, but at the same time once people stop spamming skit and go back to mixed teams, things like flamers and grenades and flame staff and shit are going to make them less of a pain overall.>>572427048Yeah it feels like everything about their tree is designed to feel like an engine that starts cold and has to get going. Super hard to kill mid fight, but anything that catches them between engagements before they've got to wind up all of their over-time and stacking talents just gets to rip their defenses right open.
>>572427245The skits also get a crazy amount of damage buffs if you use servo skull synergy
>>572427057Nah they should add it to the blitzes because they clearly need incentivized, with plenty of people running, or being sorely tempted to run, completely blitzless skit builds.
>>572427245i was playing hive scum and spamming poison flashers everytime a half dozen would run up on me, they're so boring and annoying
>>572427245>enemy that makes the core, most fun element of the game unfun is actually okay because other players that don't engage with melee can just kill it with their already powerful AOE weaponsYes, clearly a stellar implement of balance. I too can shoot these annoying faggots with my Arc Rifle or Plasma Gun. That doesn't make them any less shit
>>572427786I didn't say they were "actually okay" asshole, I said real mixed teams will probably have less trouble with them because it's all skit all the time right now and their tools aren't great for dealing with the little shits, unless you count blowing multiple claw charges as "good". Everybody knows they shouldn't have more HP than a damn mauler, there's no way FS leaves it like this, whether it was intentional or not.Also>flamer>doesn't engage with meleec'mon son you know what class has the flamer.
>>572428181The point is that you were downplaying how atrocious they are, anon. No, I don't want to listen to someone downplay how shit these enemies are because teammates MIGHT make them less annoying some games. Meanwhile, the average teammate is only slightly more helpful than a consummate glue eater.
>>572427056Doesnt help the funnest way to the play the class got gutted so now its basically just one play style and its gets boring
>>572428386I've always found melee Scum to be its most fun iteration. I was mostly over ranged Scum before I even finished leveling. I haven't played it since well before the supposed gutting.
>>572428327Nothing about my post was downplaying anything. Those tools WILL deal with them easier when they're on your team. That is just factually correct.
>>572428494Whatever you say
>>572428386>>572428474If you guys can't have fun with Desperado and a shredder autopistol with some blinders so you can be truly reckless and slippery and FAST AS FUCK then idk man. Melee scum is the one that feels boring to me, just equip the shivs and an auto-clicker, wallah everything is dead, wow.>>572428637I'm sorry that vanguards raped your wife and dog anon, they're not THAT big of a deal aside from very clearly being tuned wrong which nobody disagrees with.
>>572425441is this bait? do you genuinely and unironically use this? wtf?
>>572428771You're the one offended over a sarcastic comment kek. No, I don't think people running different builds will make the vanguard situation any better, and I think you're fucking dreaming if you do. It's just cope you've made up to tell yourself that they aren't going to continue being obnoxious, anti-fun machines until Fatshark does something about it. Cry about being disagreed with some more.
EYEHHHEHEHEH IM GONNA GETCHAAHH
>>572428823what else is he supposed to do? fatshark hasn't raised the level cap yet
>"This one is supreme"
>>572429196Apply that logic to any other enemy you're not equipped to deal with and you'll see how stupid you sound.>no I don't think kraks will help this situation - man getting raped by crushers>no I don't think a dedicated shooter on our team will help this situation - man getting turned into swiss cheese by gunners>no I don't think a dedicated boss killer would have prevented this situation - man halfway through being digested by a burgle
I can still hear the tick tock of those fucking bursters
Your Havoc game, sir
>>572430247Why did you accept them?Always #InspectAndDecline
the fact you can easily get the orange helmets but the simple hoods are locked behind the worst fucking penance in the entire game
>>572428181Arc maul gives no shits, the arc ignores the shields of vanguards and bulwarks. Energize the maul and melee normally, they die in 3 lights while the rest of the mixed horde explodes. Can be 2 lights if you VE before hand and the arcs crit.
>>572430492Oh, do they have you out there collecting tech-remnants again?
JUST 6 MORE MORTIS TRIALS AND I'LL GET CURSE OF MALFUNCTIONMAYBE
>>572430896magenta oculi betray degeneracy
how are there lvl 6's doing malice? isn't that impossible?
Is the chudclaw decent?
>>572431496Maybe a friend brought him
>>572431496if you duo you can take a low level friend into auric if you want
>>572431718>>572431740That's retarded.
>>572430247Some people are just obsessed with green circles
>>572431695Its a bit more than decent
>>572431695it's so good that the only reason everybody isn't using it is because of voltaic emitter penance farming cock and ball torture
>>572431695It feels incredible to use.
>>572432273>>572432317>>572432361Sold on it then you better not be fucking with me
>>572431695I expect it to get nerfed
>>572432409Get the talent that lets you do a swipe. Tap it to delete hordes, hold it to rape crushers.
>>572431695it's dogshit
im too fucking stupid to play skitarii im going back to cop
>>572432540Same I can feel that this class is too big brained for me.
>>572432409flensing if you want to use a crit weapon, redline otherwise.
>>572432631Are you saying I gimped myself by going redline on transonics? I really like the 5 charges tho...
>>572432723>Are you saying I gimped myselfHave you been losing games?
>>572432498HOnestly, tapping it vs Crushers is still more efficient so long as the Crushers appear in groups.>Use 1 swipe>knock down several Crushers, chunk their health, and remove nearby chaff, making them easy to finish offThe hold is still nice for lone Crushers, of course
>>572432723Nah, not at all. I just think flensing is the stronger keystone for claw because of the +5% capacitance on elite kill, but not worth taking over redline if you don't have a crit weapon to synergize with it. You're definitely not gimped, the decision mostly comes down to capacitance generation from flensing and flux conduit (the capacitance on crit node). Redline's capacitance buff is only for the base regeneration, like how toughness generation works, so it's significantly less uses of your ability over the course of a game. At least in Aurics, the claw doesn't NEED all that raw strength from Redline, it 1-shots most things already anyway.
>>572432974Other than from loading into gloriana and getting exploded off the ledge? No.
>>572432723No, Redline on Transonics is very strong. Just make sure you take the strength node, and the rending doesn't hurt either. I prefer it with Transonics over Flensing. You get more than enough Capacitance with the swipe's regen on elite kill and by taking 3-4 of the normal capacitance regen nodes. >>572433074>but not worth taking over redline if you don't have a crit weapon to synergize with itI disagree, actually. Flensing is great with Voltaic Arc Maul because of the 5% Cap on elite kill since Voltaic is much more charge restricted, and losing Redline on Voltaic only costs 1 ability use rather than 2.
>>572433343Correct, that's my thoughts on Voltaic as well. I just meant for claw, specifically.
>>572433427Ah, my bad
how can we fix ogryn
>>572433724Nerf PBB
Hive scoom.
So, let me get this straight, I'm supposed to look out for weapons that have 80% cap on everything but their dump stat which should be 60% and I should never give a fuck about power level? this power sword for example, is it exactly what I'm looking for if I want to maximize this weapon's potential? all I gotta do is just max it out through Hadron and switch up the perks to get the meta ones
>>572433512Nah you're right to say it, actually I had come to my claw and voltaic conclusions in different sessions and now that I think about it, what I really mean to say is just that I think Flensing is better for the Claw hands down (unless havoc difficulty requires the redline strength to hit 1-shot breakpoints, idk about alladat), you just might not take the cap-on-crit node if you're not using a crit weapon to go with it.
>>572434116yesgrabbing something with a higher power level is fine for grinding when you need money/mats for upgrades but you should grab the minmaxxed one for later when you can afford to upgrade it
>>572434116Correct. That one would be worth picking up because it has 60% mobility. Though, the Skit PS is really not too great, so I'd snag it and shelve it if I was hard up on crafting mats. You do, of course, need the blessings unlocked through the mastery system, which just requires you to earn XP with the weapon or sacrifice stuff to level it up forcibly
>>572410441Too bad devils claw has an abysmal flak damage and a non existent carapace damageThe flak damage especially kills the weapon for me, I wouldn't use it even in heresy
>>572434116Power level is just a numerical representation of all those stats. It is pretty arbitrary. In the current deterministic system yes you just find a stat spread you like and upgrade it to its max potential. If you ever think this process is a grind then you don't know the half of it.Sometimes two stats have their uses but are also less important. Up to you to decide to dump one of them to 60% or accept a 70/70 split, or anywhere in between because splitting hairs on small percentage differences only matters in a select few weapons for breakpoints.
>>572414964That should be removed from the game
>>572434246>>572434285>>572434407Got it, thanks, this is my resource pool, I'm not sure how much this is, I want to try and make the power sword work since I think its the coolest of the three even if it fucking sucks and the moveset is terrible but if this is too close to poverty then I'll just try to bruteforce a dual transonic blade stat spread by brant's armory
>>572434246>>572434285>>572434407How do I know which stat is the dump stat?
I think the next class will be Eldar. I have no evidence for this, aside from my inability to figure out how an SOB can be different from a Zealot
>>572434116Yeah that's about how gear works in this game.Personal note however: I found it better to dump first target instead of mobility for the MPS, dodging felt too sluggish with 60% mobility.Might just be a placebo tho>>572434742Look it up online.Most of the time it's mobility, but there are some exceptions like the knife, assuming I'm remembering correctly.
>>572434619That's plenty for a weapon or two, just don't go crazy trying to craft the whole skit arsenal and you'll be fine.
>>572434161I wouldn't know about Havoc. I stopped playing it a couple seasons back. I just have a hard time valuing the attack speed and crit that heavily over strength and some armor pen when raw power is what's most lacking on Transonics. The crit modifier on them is good, but it's not insane or anything. Probably doesn't make much difference which you choose though, at least not for elite killing
>>572434292Only the carapace is the real block. Flak doesn't slow it down too much. Skitarii is no hive scum, but does have the electrocute on crit and brittleness on electrocute talents, to go with Devil Claws access to shred, to speed up maulers.
>>572434619Damn son, start gambling those melk bucks for good curios NOW.Also, put on some ordo docket boosters while you're at it. Dockets and Plasteel should ALWAYS be the highest value. Diamantine is the limiting factor here, but you're doing great on that.
I am more flaccid than the rifle is at this point.>>572435198Yeah that's understandable, I definitely don't think it's non-viable. When you capacitancemaxx with Flensing and Satiated Steel (25%/5s cap regen on claw kill), you're just solving most of your problems with the claw anyway.
>>572435441>ordo docket boostersThe what now? What the fuck is a booster?
>>572435650Curio blessings
I kinda want to Skit FOTM but since it's not on sale it's literally more money than the base game for a single classWondering if I should just wait and buy it whenever it finally goes on sale, although Hive Scum is only 25% off so I don't even know if it's worth waiting for a sale
>>572435073I think that might just be because the moveset fucking sucks, for some reason Skitarii's legs turn into fucking stone whenever a MPS is being used but when you're rocking the blades they start working again. You might be right about it being slightly better with mobility though, I'm not sure myself, its just that I think the weapon feeling the way it does is very much the developers fault>>572435098Good to know, thanks>>572435441I was just thinking about what I should do with those, the right play is to spend them on curios then? it makes sense now that I think about it since getting good curios through the shop seems kind of painful
>>572435971Unless you get a magical mythical Emperor Divined blessing of a rare 80/80/80/80/60 weapon from Melk, you should always use them for the curios. Melk is the Curio man.Always gamble with him. You can play the long game and wait for him to stock a 420+ curio of your choice (Usually Toughness 17%) or just gamble for one.Put a 10% Ordo Docket Blessing on your curios and just cruise some Damnations or Aurics for money printing.Even better if you random assign.
>>572435787Poor people are so funny
>>572435971The biggest thing with mobility is you want to make sure you hit the max dodges for it, I assume 60% mobi will, but mine is at 66% so I can't say that with total certainty. But, there's also no reason to be a total min-maxing sweat either. You're not playing the tippy-top hardcore difficulty so you're free to make a lot of "comfort" choices with your builds, better to enjoy your gameplay than make sure your damage numbers are the biggest and bestest. If I were you, I'd try it out for a bit and grab a different one with max mobility if you think you'd like that better. If you like the mobility one better, just slap a Favorite tag on the min-maxed one and save it for some other time when you want to juice your build harder.
>>572436228The less money I reward Fatshark with the better
>>572435473Seems like with the way I have my builds set up, each gets down to a 3-hit at their peak, so I guess it's largely a moot point on that front anyway.>you're just solving most of your problems with the claw anyway.Kek ain't that the truth of either keystone with claw if you want it to be, though hitting Rager packs with claw while running Flensing definitely feels particularly nice.>Satiated SteelYeah running Claw without this is peak sillyness. It's too good to pass up.
>>572436225I haven't touched those difficulty modes yet but after I get the weapon stats going for at least a primary and a melee I can probably start trying, my voltaic skitarii build is already complete and doing Heresy which is what I was doing to level up was already getting pretty easy>>572436415I'll think about it tomorrow, trying them out in the meat grinder sounds like a good idea. Thanks for helping me out fellas, good night
>>572435441>>572435971One thing I forgot to add. Make sure you're Trust level 30 and wait for his shop to refresh before you gamble. It matters.Seriously.Also don't know if this matters at all, but get some penances done, in my experience it makes both Melk and the Req shop populate better gear.
>>572436713Oh yeah for sure>Get penances done for better gearI think I'm doing alright on that end, I have a level 30 Ogryn,Zealot,Psyker and now Skitarii, also have a level 27 Arbites, there's a bunch of penances I've done with them
>>572436713Trust level matters for brute-forcing weapon stats at Brunt's armory too. Don't be the guy who tried it at level 5 and ended up with 3.8k gray combat knives before he hit his dump stat.
so for noospheric you take all the energy regen nodes?
So uh.. How the fuck is this possible.I don't even have mastery for this thing.Where the fuck did it come from?
>>572434161I'd still take the crit node with arc maul as well. I'm always switching it on when I get into the mixed horde and I use VE, the arcs will often crit and with the enhanced arc blessing you can get multiple crits per swing.
>>572437361Well, the crit one is over time though so multiple in a single swing don't do anything for you. That said, I think it's still good to take (I'm doing it on my voltaic just to get this fuccccking penance done faster), but it'd also be an easy point to allocate somewhere else if you wanted wiggle room.
>>572437282hellbore gaming in large '26. insane to see. hard to believe.
>>572437772It feels so nice when it works though. Getting to Helbore was the best part about Expeditions on launch.
>>572437772>Heavy muffled breathing.
All of the Skitarii backpacks have me thinking, they should convert that to a utility item slot and flesh it out some. Stuff like>techy backpack that gives you a flashlight>ammo bag that gives you a boost to your ammo reserve>medic pack that lets you start with a med stimm (would count the same as a normal pick-up would for purposes of director pressure)>cape that gives you like +5% move speed>grenade belt that lets you start with ## extra non-replenishable grenades>warp battery that gives a reduction to perils generationBasically Fatshark should hire me to come up with cool shit because I'd be sick at it. And I'm really salty about flashlights still.
Hive Scum worth it while the sale is on?
>>572438543Be real with me for a second, how many maps did you genuinely feel like "fuck I need a flashlight to see anything at all"
>>572438606no, nothing in darktide is worth it
>>572438647every time lights out happens
>>572438765I haven't seen lights out in a coon's age...
>>572436415Made a 80 mobility 60 first target MPSDodge amount stayed the same but the dodge distance was noticeably bigger.t. >>572435073
Why don't skitarii have enhanced vision just for lights out?
>>572438647I mean, I can get through Light's Out missions alright enough, it's more the principle of the thing. They make this challenge and a way for players to interact with it, then give most of the players no options that actually interact with it. I have three servo skulls and a giant battery on my back, as well as a gun, and I cannot mount a flashlight on literally any of it. They cut my fucking eyelids off so they could attach glowing cyber-eyes to my face, and I still cannot see shit.Light's Out doesn't deserve to live, because it feels like such an unfair kidney punch to the players. "Oh, didn't feel like running vet with a las rifle huh? Well now you get to play the game blind, asshole." and of course most of the time you have no say in it, because who the fuck isn't doing quickplay? It just pisses me off.>>572438906Ah okay figures, I think only a couple of weapons actually want to tweak mobility to hit an extra dodge, I just thought it was worth mentioning because I know I've seen some sloptuber somewhere talk about it on some weapon I forget now.
>>572438884its always there or vent purge, theres been a lot of lights out with the event missions; it the primary reason why i dont play auric, too many times its always lights out or vent purge
>>572439072>and I cannot mount a flashlight on literally any of it.worse. The giant battery pack visibly has a flashlight mounted on it. But all that the light does is glow the wrong color so that it never matches your eyes unless you running default cyan. Also the dum medicae skull is floating around glowing nurgle green.
>>572439697You see what I mean?? It's like they're laughing at us.
>>572437282Rounding errorsIt's not really 80, its 77.8
>>572439697Are you genuinely confusing traitor guards with skits? Skits are like a solid 3 feet taller than them wtf
>>572406918If you're alone on the captain a heavy crit right before he pops his shield does big damage, otherwise no not really.
>>572440717Wondering if I should get on the Arbites train seeing how theyre gonna obliterate the only fun build skittles have
>>572440717I just really don't get the point. Yeah it hits hard, but isn't the point that it can activate at no capacitance? It sounds like people are just playing whole missions without their abilities or blitzes just to spam tag things? That sounds like a really lame way to play unless I'm misunderstanding something about how it works.
vanguards should be elite enemies
>>572421415I really miss dog maxxxing with double shields.
>>572421415Im sorry, but isnt dog still very strong as of right now?
>>572441025lol
>>572403763Battletoads preorder, at last.
>>572440876It circumvents swedish vision of skittle having shit abilities and no ammoIt also helps keep up conditional +damage% and toughenss resistance nodes on ranged killsIt also lets you dump 3-4 capacitance nodes and use the points elsewhere, and there's no lack of boring +15% damage nodes.It is not stronger than arc spam but it doesn't require any ammo so it should be havoc viable (I'll never know because I'll never get into havoc as skittle before they nerf it). It's probably the only powerful build that's havoc viable, because skittle is not a good melee class, it's a good hybrid melee+ranged class, and it doesn't have ammo sustain.
>>572440876I've used it once and tagged everything there was to tag and it was fine-ish, I don't think I was ever in a situation where I just had no charges for prolonged period of time. It does dig into your ability to delete Bosses 100-0 with Chordclaw because you won't have all the charges and I think it wouldn't work well with Voltaic beacuse that essentially relies on being spammable, but it's not like you literally have no ability.
today's words are deranged and unhinged
>>572441025No.
>>572440317Are you genuinely downplaying the importance of silhouettes in character design when it comes to maintaining visual clarity? Are you swedish?
>>572441929pewpewpepwpewpewhaha
I just had a lvl 125 skitty in my auric who did 850k damage of which 650k was overkill damage. What are they doing with these new characters.
>>572442016No, I'm saying youre a total retard if you mistook a 8 foot man for a 5'8 man.
>>572442218idk, voltaic?
>>572441929oh but he's having fun with his laspistol weakspot build anon
>>572441929Wait does walking up to it do something
>>572442448instead of chowing down he'll swipe at you with the person in his tentacle, does less damage and he doesn't get to heal off his snack
I wish we got something that made our arc maul charges come back faster. I want to use the longer arcs with it so bad but it's just impossible to justify with this lack of uptime.
>>572442519I thought it was randoneI did the same thing to my teammate in maelstrom yesterday, lol
>>572442560Just take munitorum shock maul, all skittle melee weapons are memes except for tranny shivs
>>572442649I will when the shock maul is fixed to work with skitlectrocute talents. Not munitorum though lmao that thing is ass.
>>572442591>randoneFUCKI switched to a different keyboard yesterday to avoid this bullshit autocorrection and it just GOT WORSE
>>572440876The main thing is that it can shoot at stuff while you're doing other things. It can kill that trapper while you're busy dealing with a bunch of ragers in your face or are dealing with monster aggro. Or you can have it engage one gunner while you shoot a second gunner. If you actually invest into some capcitance gain it doesn't hurt voltaic that much beyond making it a bit impractical to get off level 3 zaps. On that matter it's probably a bonus if what you care about is uptime on your ability to just stun a big pile of crushers/ragers that dropped into melee. Assuming that you were more or less fully charged with 3 charges, then you'll probably be hanging around ~2.5 or 2.9 charges during an actual fight where you're pinging stuff. So when you pop your ult it only ends up burning 2 charges instead of 3. That means that it takes drastically less time for you to reach that 1 charge safety net where you have another time stop ready since instead of needing to fully power up a charge from 0% to 100%, you probably only need to charge ~20-50% of an ability.
God Hive scum is so fucking squishy mang.
>>572441929>He's running the wrong las pistol markSo close to actually being helpful
>>572442843Yeah I think I'm starting to get it. I was thinking people were just like, spamming it and going "ha ha this is my main weapon" while they jerk off in the back. The more I'm thinking about it, the more I can see how it can heavily compliment a melee-focused build, and the ammo thing for Havoc makes perfect sense too. Still doesn't really feel like something I'd want to do, but I can imagine how it's satisfying in a way, getting to multi-task ranged and melee at the same time without swapping weapons and needing to stay safe to shoot.
>>572442219lights out in the dark where enemies can be entrenched in all sorts of elevations and the only visible bits are their glowing eyes, a glimpse of the silhoutte of a spikey helmet, and dark bodysuit that matches the coloring of Stygies VIII? Shouldn't you be on vacation Sven?
>>572442982Spill the beans, I am loving my laspistol build but I am sure I can either improve or I am lacking
>>572442696But agni is worse? Why not munitorum? It has better horde clearing relentless loop and better single target strikedown loop, with small interval between heavy and light that makes stagger actually work.
>>572442736you might actually be retarded
https://streamable.com/1jtbxkwhat the hell did they do during recording
>>572443056oh boy he expects a precise answer on a pve game forum
>>572442218You can do that with every character
can voltaic + arc maul do a million plus damage in a havoc 40 run and score top kills across the boardyescan it deal with last man standing situationsI'm thinking nofuck
>>572443056You want to use the high capacity one and just fish for crits + weakspot hitsUse flensing and weakspot from bottom + crit from left + ranged damage from right + bonus damage on hitting burning targets from topCrit chance + Unyielding damageGhost + burn on critJust don't try and shoot carapace its pointless
>>572424451You can get a lot of easy progress in expeditions by running up to gunners packs. Very little risk of missing.
>359/500 >go through auric No Man's Land and shock every group I see with 2+ charges>359/500did I just imagine the entire game
>>572443003You even multitask when doing ranged, you start getting used to ping one target and shoot another.
>>572443350they don't count unless they got the blue malfunction effect indicated on their heads
>>572443017Ehh... I think scummer is worse and in broad daylight, too. I take swings at those shitheads for looking like dregs in my peripherals all the time.
wait the skull shots apply one bleed???
>>572442218>of which 650k was overkill damageNo. They did 850k damage AND 650k overkill damage
>>572443003It's probably the only way they could implement shit like three armed gameplay an enginseer woukd have which is what I want.I want to swing at thing with my omnissiah axe and zap things with a hyper overloaded laspistol at the same time and the nossy build gives me what I want.
>>572443479Burn
>>572443097I had this happen as well, thought it was an arbitey wearing a mask but he had no helmet on.
>>572443442the blue effect is a different thing.
>>572443307Thanks fellow clanka, gonna be checking it out
>>572443539If they were to nerf nooskull, the only nerfs that would sit right with me would be tying the buff to actually spending 25% of a charge so that you can't just burn it at 0 charge, and perhaps a tiny cooldown nerf that penalizes auto-pingers but won't be felt by players who actually are manually pinging tuff.
>>572443085ehh idk I'm just shitpostin, I just don't like the muni attack patterns whenever I try it. I actually really like the Agni's strikedown > vanguard > strikedown heavy combo, I'm usually taking the thing to knock enemies around so I'm not feeling too pressed about every other swing battering chaff around while I fight a crusher or something. But I will give you the horde cleaving feels much better on the Muni
>>572443724I don't even spam it that hard and I have tag on mouse wheel up. I never get to 0 capacitance the lowest I dip is 1.Also I don't know how some people have such a long range on their skulls mine only functions up close.
>>572443017>Ignoring the size difference>Ignoring the animation difference>Ignoring the names above peoples headsPepkab
>>572440717Man I don't know how anyone gives a fuck what Mister E says about anything, aside from just being almost all roleplay builds his shit is just rambly and bootleg as fuck>pings a mauler>waits like 8 seconds for it to die to servo skull doing 400 dps>woooow as you can see its ACTUALLY getting DEMOLISHED
>>572444020oh yeah that'll be a 30 minute video please by the way
>>572444020The servo skull attacks still debuff the target so that they take +15% damage from all sources. It can be useful to maulers/crushers for that debuff. It's just a waste to expect the skull to reasonably kill them in a respectable amount of time.
>>572444312thanks for the input but I just hate Mister E videos okay
>>572442886>Shirtless hobo can't take a hitGit gud you have the best dodges in the game
>>572444374So don't watch them?He's self admitted slop for the second monitor.
>>572443859The main time that the activation cost is a drain is if you have teammates that are really good at taking out specials/elites themselves. By default skits recover 4% charge when they kill elites/specials. If they take the flensing keystone then they can boost that by an extra+5% to a total of 9%. So that 25% cost to activate nooskull is more like 16% if the skull successfully kills the target. But if somebody else kills the target then they've denied you that capacitance rebate.
>>572444020My biggest issue isn't that his own opinions are generally utterly dogshit (you can see from his early DLC builds being some malicelet retardation), it's that he actually just steals shit and peddles it as his own. Fuck, the stupid nigger might actually be reading shit shit right this very moment, wouldn't be surprised since he released a servoskull ping spam video after we had a guy cream himself over it yesterday.One of you fucks linked a video a day or two ago that went "everyone was wrong about transsonic blades" or something to that tune, and it "explained" how they're actually not utterly shit but actually pretty good and it made my fucking blood boil because on release day if you spent five fucking seconds playing with them and not listening to stupid e-celeb bullshit (or your own farts, if you're an e-celeb) you would have known that.
>>572444578Yeah everyone said he was calling Darktide slop but I always assumed "Sloptide" was a self-aware label for his own pointless rambling-for-ad-time videos.
las pistol is literally vets best ranged weapon
>>572444624In 48 hours they're going to start clickbaiting about Ablative Wards and how skittles just don't give a fuck about bathing in nurgle goop when they run that talent with a bit of corruption resistance.Screencap this.
I really like the Galvanic rifle
>>572442448if the chaos spawn grabs someone, if there is no one else next to it, it will eat you, heal and deal corruption damage, if there is, it swings the person, that person getting swung takes 0(ZERO) damage and everyone else can just block the hit or dodge. this is why chaos spawn is the weakest boss in the game
>>572444848repulsive abominable indiangence
>level 30 player joins>we're on fucking damnation by the way, i'm levelling>afk's for long enough to die right away>he says 'not a good start for me'>he proceeds to somehow get down to half health 20 seconds after we revive him>i put a medpack down because the rest of us are low enough>20 seconds later this guy is half health again and then soon after goes down>we revive again and then he is on one health a minute later>i ping a med station 5 times and this guy ignores it>goes down again, we revive>this guy is on no ammo and running directly past ammo pickups i'm pinging>block himholy fuck man i hate damnation. easily the worst players in the game, somehow worse than the first 3 diffs.
>>572444624>"everyone was wrong about transsonic blades"That was Reginald and to be fair he was making data-driven decisions based on TTKs for Havoc level enemies, and the main reason he felt transonics were better than expected was a pretty easy-to-miss detail in that their strikedown heavies can cleave carapace naturally so the TTK value changes based on the knowledge that you can kill multiple crushers at a time with it. It was a bit more in-depth of a discussion than the people going "transonics are shit" because they didn't get how to use the weapon's moveset on day 1.>>572444927They get to ignore tox-flamers too which feels pretty based. It's a bad-habit engine though because the tox still hits your toughness just as hard, so you end up being a dipshit with no toughness in the middle of a gas cloud where you can't see and will inevitably end up exploding when something tickles your butthole while you're running around in there.
friendship has ended with hyper-violencenow hyper-critical is my best friend
>>572444848It's the best weapon for every class that's allowed to use it (Except staff psykers, but it's still best for melee psykers so I still count it)What I wouldn't give for Hadron to cut my rippgergun handle off and attach a las pistol to it instead.
Anyone up for a Slay the Spire 2 lobby? >>572444928wish the dmg justify the terrible ammo economy
>>572443350If all else fails. Mortis Trials count and they sometimes throw a shit ton of gunners your way
>>572444848That's not the recon lasgun althoughbeit desuwa desu
>>572406872>more pages than lord of the rings
I want a heavy las like the one the gunners have.
>>572444991My favorite is when some +300 true level joins and goes down like six times followed by "oops, im on the wrong build"
>>572445245it's called a hotshot las and you can't have one because fatshark can't figure out how to make tubes attach from one object to another
>>572445059I like how ablative wards just cockblock the dogs while the servoskull starts blasting it.
>>572445334>join mission>have to scratch my nose>die>we all wipe
>>572445395Dabbing on Daemonhosts feels great too. It's really a wonderful comfort talent so long as you still respect the toughness damage tox will do to you. I just see a lot of players thinking they're invincible and standing in the gas just because they can (I do this on the twins fight now, it's fun)
>>572444578I don't watch him, I'm just annoyed that anyone else does.>>572445059I don't watch Reginald either for the same boring, time-wasting, unscripted rambling but honestly at least he at least puts in the effort of TESTING his shit and letting you know how it actually matches up against the meta instead of just throwing the HAVOC 40 VIABLE sticker on everything.i miss tanner though
>>572445395>cockblock the dogsSo does electrocute on being hit in melee and that also cockblocks ragers
>>572445074I'd say it's the bistol thanks to all the bullshit it enables, on top of being a bretty good weapon in itself.
>>572444991>Join an active mision>Load directly into a webgunner shooting their web at me>Die because my team is already three post codes awayNothin personnel kiddo heh
I got some shitty modifier in a Damnation game (maybe shock troop?) that was dropping as many as 9 shield guys at a time. And I was just farting around with a Psyker bubble, Assail knives and shock maul build. But Assail felt really good against those shield fuckers, I was ripping through whole packs of them with 5-6 knives. Does this ability get used much in difficulty above Damnation?
>>572444927I love this imageAI slop could never compete with such raw unfiltered creativity
>>572445791I once loaded in AS netted. Is it just that the webgunner was focusing the bot or do we spawn in as an invisible object that specialists can target whilst loading?
>>572445609tranner was funny, he was like of the most insane and petty posters we had here except he has a mic and a face. A real lolcow (as in an irl fat cow)
>>572444445The duality of the hobo crackhead:>pious hobo most survivable class>addict hobo least survivable class
>>572443641No, that's malfunction.What did you think it was?
Anyone here playing Darktide on an older GPU/Processor? i want to know how the game performs generally and optimization, before having to uninstall games i like to download/buy this one
>>572446046Yes but only in scrier's destiny builds.
>>572445609>he at least puts in the effort of TESTING his shitdoesn't stop him from producing the most retarded buildsAnd the justification "I am a good player so I can play a shit build haha" is fucking retarded
>>572446464>DrugsSweden siding with imams over crackheads
>>572445609I don't. Tranner was a fat autistic retard who didn't even know how to play the game or what he was regurgitating from other streamers. Nothing but an overweight parrot lolcow.
>>572444927>>572446047My favourite part about this is I know EXACTLY where this is, just by the location of the bomber in the sky there.
Did they fuck with the Crusher's overhead attack? I've been hit with their overheads way outside their range.
>>572446623Electrocuted. Because I've seen gunners do the huh wuh animation without the blue halo.
>>572446679It has a tendency to crash due to timeout
>ogryn called big tom in heresy has an average lifespan of literally 1 minute, no exaggeration if there was any possibility of falling off something, he did it, he blew every single barrel, stood right in front of every burster, just walked at flamethrowers and snipers in a straight line, never took any healing, was completely allergic to coherency radius.my favourite part was when i started babysitting him by killing everything around him, he seemed to get mad at me or potentially even thought i was an enemy and tried hitting me for a full 5 miniutes. it was great, i love levelling.
do you go full ammo with gunsmith for the laspistol? >>572443307
>>572446895why would you want gunsmith on laspistol
>>572406918>mk4Only against crushers.>mk7The hordeclear combo is heavy-light-light.>the 3rd oneDunno I never use it.
>>572446815hey reggie whats up man
>>572446926meant the other one which regens ammo
>>572446679The game barely stays at 50 fps on my 9800x3d 9070If you're on an amd card just give up lol.
>>572406872>#New40k I don't get it, you can do anything you want with your fanfiction, but then you choose to base your story on the worst 40k has ever been.>originally uploaded on Spacebattlesoh yeah that tracks
For the Troonblades, do I go flence again? Seems like the only good purplenode
>>572446863Feels like chasm station's hacking event.
Thank you anons for talking about Noospherric Command build with zero blitz, making the last dozen mission completed on Skitarii more fun and easier to carry auric pubs.
>>572446894You found the guy>this is your brain on drugswarned us about.
are builds solved
>>572447042What's wrong with spacebattles? Wait, this is 4chan. You forgot that you're not supposed to say the n-word in public and got banned, didn't you.
>>572447258Ya.
>>572446895I don't take either of the ammo nodes, they are pointlessYou outspeed the rest of your team, just eat an ammo backpack every now and then
>>572447258I did, yeah
>>572447365what's the objectively best Skitarii build
>>572447258no because swedes will fuck it all up before going on vacation
>>572447502The one you think is fun
>>572447502FlensingChud clawNoosphereWhile stacking as much +damage as possible and never getting hit because then you lose flensing stacks
>>572444848YesI did some maelstrom runs with plasma and laspistol yesterdayLaspistol is a tie with a ranged skittle, around 700k damagePlasma is an overheating wet noodle struggling to break 250k damage
>>572446782As they should wallah
>>572447547i like your image thanks for contributing looks like a cute little carabinierii bet its actually from some dogshit gacha but alas
>>572446883Electrocution is specifically when they're stunned from your electrical attacks.
>>572444961zoomers cant really tell the difference anymore huh
>played VT2 for the first time in literal years>unbelievably easy, granted wasn't cataCan't believe I got gaslit.
>>572447502All the things that abuse all of the bugs, atm. Can't even play ethical optimal builds because the noosy has no meaningful cost on it.
Okay I was totally wrong about noosphere, I'm pretty much never empty to even take advantage of it's no cost bug/feature. Shit is cool ty anons.
>>572449674doesn't it need to be activated each time you switch targets
>>572449674You can abandon capacity generation and then you will be emptyIt makes sense to do if you want to play a generic shock maul / phosphor pistol build with no arcsBut arcs is the only strong shit skittle has and the only good build is everyone's day 1 arc rifle buildThe thing is, if you got arc rifle with voltaic maxxing, why would you even bother with noosphere?
>>572449876You need to activate it multiple times per target because it can't kill elites in one activation (except for maybe dreg gunners)
>>572447502arcmax
>>572449937so it's an even more macroing vet tag. No thanks
>>572449885boils down to ammo economy and killing efficiency. Skull can kill in one direction while arc is shooting the other direction
>four 430 curios>all +1 woundraping fatshark to death
>>572447502Claw and arc are both very good and strong builds.I think skitty is a very fun and "balanced" class. Has some decent powerspikes and can handle itself in most situations. Very nice. Doesn't have the pain that hiv scoom did where leveling was dogshit nor is it mega gigabusted like launch psyker was.
>>572450048still trying for that +2 wounds curio?
>>572450037Priming targets with voltaic will probably save you more ammo than skullYou can't have both
>>572449885>why would you even bother with noosphere?As the other anons said earlier, the multi-tasking feels cool and touches the class fantasy of a mechanical soldier acting on different fronts with superhuman precision at the same time. It's also a nice boost to single target damage if you're running some kind of meme frontliner or support build that's heavy defense or toughness sharing or something like that. Makes a big diff on crushers for me, I just have to whack it a couple of times for brittleness first.
>okay fine, I'll play expeditions>might as well get that penance done>handhold three retarded first-time gamer shitters that are very uppity and lively in chat for some reason>collect literally everything because these assholes can't even move let alone block and are overwhelmed just existing>get to the final stage>all objectives done>the fucking game crashes>sure, whatever, faggotshitfart game, normal behavior>load back in>no reconnect prompt>nothing>either the entire session crashed, or these sub-human shitters all died in the span of 20 secondsREEEEEEERRRREREEEEEEEEEEI FUCKING HATE NIGSPEDITIONS
>>572450802it never counts when I do mortis, shan't even test expedition
>>572446046Yeah it's actually really good in havoc 40 because the shards ignore conventional cleave and hitmass mechanics and just indiscriminately multi hit anything that isn't carapace.It's not enough to clear hordes on its own, but it's a nice boost especially on the melee build that runs warp splitting (which applies to the shards!) and malefic momentum.
I don't understand gear progression. How do I get weapons that aren't complete ass? How do blessings work?
>>572448452In fairness a lot of people can’t anymore>>572447547I like your image too :)>>572445334Pet seal….
>>572450802I did this shit for 40 hoursI'll never forgive fartshart if tech remnants never ever get some sort of use
>>572451073>How do I get weapons that aren't complete ass?You level up, take them to Hadron, and spend resources on leveling them up.>How do blessings work?There is a mastery progression system that increases as you use the weapon, letting you unlock blessings that you can then apply at Hadron for a price.Gear progression is a vestigial system back from the dumbfuck retarded gacha gambling days, and coded, implemented and balanced by severely retarded incompetent Sw*des. If something feels off, it's because it was made by a Sw*dish """person""".
>>572451073Once you're level 30, go to the shop and buy the weapon you want over and over until you get the one with stats you wantThen go to Hadron and upgrade itAlternatively you can go to the guy at the green terminal and hope he offers a random weapon that's good
>>572446046Yes, it's amazing on a Scrier's Gaze build. Basically you take the talent that lets you spend peril without exploding after Gaze ends, then the strategy is: pop Scriers, start whooping ass, throw out a shard or two to get malefic momentum going as you mulch, and then when you hit max peril, whip out those shards. They will be buffed to high fucking heaven by Scrier's lingering effects, as well as malefic momentum from your rampaging, and they will rape anything you point them at, so you just magdump in the general direction of enemies to end every scrier's phase.
>>572450853I was shown the light when another anon told me that the mortis/expedition needs to be done from the ready screen. JIPs don't count even if it's the second the game actually starts.
>>572451323I did, readying up alone and all that
>>572451363Fatshark have personally singled you out then and will continue to be shitheads about then I'm afraid.gomen.
>>572451531I blame you anon
>>572450936>warp splitting (which applies to the shards!) and malefic momentumThat's cool, I was wondering about that.
>>572450195No I just want +17% toughness or 21% health
>>572450853You can run straight for evac in expeditionI grabbed one tech remnant along the way just in case, it worked. Did it in private lobby with a freind.
>>572451684the +1% wont make a difference anon, be free
>MULTIPLE NIGGER IQ'ED RETARD NIGGERS (probably consolniggers) whoare stealth zealot, only uses autogun and barely uses their fucking melee weapon, takes all fucking ammoare these actually niggers or something
>>572451073Using your weapon and leveling it up gives you points to spend on the mastery screenYou can equip two of the perks you level up on that screen to a weapon
>>572451827Could be children.Could be literal first time gamers that have never touched another game before.Could be legitimately mentally deficient individuals.Could be high on drugs.Could be slavs.
>>572450802>try for a second time>hoover up a ton of mats>at least get to spend them at the sanctuary>barely leave the door>game crashes again>same entirely inconsequential error log>same missing reconnect prompt implying that literally everyone crashed and the entire session expiredDid these dumbfuck swiggers seriously try to push this dogshit dead mode again in some convoluted attempt to revive it, only to introduce a LITERALLY gamebreaking bug and then go on state mandated 4 month vacation?
>>572447042most fan fiction is just laughably bad but yeah the ones on forums and shit in particular seem to be a special kind of awful.
>>572452954Do you guys think if somebody nuked sweden tomorrow that GW etc would find a way to keep Darktide playable or would it immediately be deserted
>>572452954Have you tried turning it on and off again?Verified data files?
>>572445179The brown recon lasgun is my go to.But I do have a soft spot for the infantry autogun.Why yes I cannot go to battle without my precious torch light in case quickplay throws me into a lights out mission.
>>572453197>>same missing reconnect prompt implying that literally everyone crashed and the entire session expiredI don't think performing regular maintenance is going to magically fix the session for everyone else, anon
>>572450802I gotta get my tech remnant penances done for those cosmetics.The problem is I fear those cosmetics will be a mark of shame because I suffered through expeditions for them.
>>572451801When I got a 17% on my ogryn it rounded my toughness up frpm 229 to a nice tidy 230, it's worth it
>>572453404>rounded my toughness up frpm 229 to a nice tidy 230
>>572453404Based and TANKpilled SAH
>got it on my first mission running itThat wasn't hard at all wtf
fuck you fatshark for trying to make these a thing
>>572451073>How do blessings work?Increase weapon mastery, you can find that tab on your operative screen. That lets you have hadron put the blessings you want on the weapons you want. You can increase mastery by doing missions with the weapon (you don't have to use them) or by sacrificing weapons to Hadron, the best options for sacrifice are green quality of relatively high weapon level (200-300) of the same weapon you want to increase mastery for.
>>572454613Is there ever a good use for this?Charged plasma?
>>572454613>>572454718>+20% damage>but this doesn't actually mean your gun deals +20% damage because you have like +60% damage elsewhere in the tree and it stacks additively>it actually means +20% of your gun's base damage (and then further modified by strength) >you only deal like 13% more damage>this will never be enough to hit any breakpointsThese fucking retards could at least let it stack to 50% or something. I wouldn't even mind retaining the 1s/10% stack mechanic. At least give it a relevant number to actually hit breakpoints with, it's too slow to be practical even in malice.
>team aggros a crusher patrol in a doorway around the same time the director spawns a bunch of misc. specials>instead of alpha striking the fuck out of the chokepoint with everything they have to keep the ogryntide out and control the situation, they just keep plinking and dodging away>they get mulched by three successive overheads and i have to revive all their asses while dodging nets and dogs from behind the horde
>>572455006FOR THE LEXI came back for Skitarii and its fun, but I am still kinda tempted to buy Arbites, especially because of the cool cyborg dog
>>572455187Isn't it on sale right now? Arbites is fun as hell, you should go for it.
>>572455187His gameplay gets pretty samey once you're all leveled up but it is fun
>>572455187Lexman is strong and easy and fun, and the dog ranges from just a decent bodyguard, to rather good special killing and havoc rainbow enemy disable, depending on how much you're willing or able to micro it. You can also get rid of it, impact nade spam is incredible in auric.
>>572455295I'm more partial to shock mine spam personally. It's an incredible hedge against director fuckery (like deciding to drop 15 armored berserkers on you at once).
>>572455491You can flashbang those. Or BTL those. Or shock them with your shotgun. Or use any other blitz.Shock mine spam is just a crutch for bad players and you should wean yourself off running Lone Wolf with them. The occasional mine has high value but you should never need all 3, much less one every 90 seconds.
What's the actual strat when you have to melee ragers? So far I've been throwing out heavies as I dodge away to try and avoid trading
Holy FUCK arbiter does so little damage
>>572455726He does more than ogryn does in melee.
>>572455726maybe you're just shit and should just shoot a barrel and ledge yourself
>>572455726>Holy FUCK arbiter does so little damagedoes he know chat?
>>572455187Arby remains my favorite despite me prefering the skits aesthetic
>>572454868it should be not shooting for 1s increases damage by 10% for THREE SHOTS and then 2s increases the damage to 20% for SIX SHOTS
For me, it's:Ogryn > Zealot > Skitty = Vet > big gap > Hivescum > Psyker > Arby
what is the meaning of this vaguepost?
Rank all the classes based on difficulty, starting from easiest to hardest.
>>572455726Equip the shock maul for free +80% damage to all enemies (team wide) as long as you triple tap their head.You are running the enemies count as staggered on weakspot hot right anon?
>>572455579>you don't need them because they're too strong>just make sure you run one of their weaker replacements and never experiment with a less crowd control oriented build or I'll call you a shitterExhibit A of why arbites feels too samey after 50 missions.
>>572455187Arbites amuses me infinitely just because of the maul personality.
thoughts on my drip?
>>572456132>end story with cliffhanger>add trials and expeditions instead of making more
>>572455653It depends on your weapon. If you can parry, then parry. If your heavies can stagger it, then keep your distance and pummel them. With some weapons double push works. If nothing works, you're left with push attacks (which are not necessarily good but what else can you do).Also you need to know your attacks, relentless or vanguard can do more stagger than strikedown, especially on shock maul. There's shock maul special but it's dogshit and will kill you if there is more than 1 eager.
>>572456137>EasiestArbiterZealotVetSkitOgrynScumPsyker>Hardest
>>572456189That's not how skullcrusher works
>>572456229perfect setup for darktide 2
>>572456319Vet is so squishy no new player is going to tell you it's easier than psyker
>>572456387It literally is
>>572456227>Hood doesn't match coat
>>572456137Arbiter > Skitarii > Ogryn > Zealot > Psyker > Veteran > Hive Scum
>>572456227It looks great milord
>>572456137>malice approvedArbitrator, Ogryn (practically plays themselves, low ceiling)>heresy approvedVeteran, Zealot (needs understanding of fundamentals but comes with training wheels in the form of piss and until death)>damnation approvedSkitarii, Psyker, Scum (high floor, you will eat shit if you haven't mastered fundamentals)
>>572456387>He doesn't know>>572456405Piss toughness is inherently easier than anything psyker has going.I don't care about ranking which class is easier to level I'm only talking level 30 with good gear, build and curios.
>>572456137ArbitesZealot (easy but useless)OgrynSkittleScumPsykerVeteran
>>572455726Arbitrator does dogshit melee damage early on because all the relevant damage talents are at the bottom of the tree. Just use your shotgun for damage early on, it's broken as hell.The actual damage output you can achieve is pretty fucking massive once you hit 30.
>>572456531>>572456319Skit is braindead. The class has multiple easy access to tools that stun Ragers which are the biggest shitter filters, and can be made tankier than Ogryn with none of the rotund downsides of shot cockblocking or just being easy to hit.
>>572456447>>572456604>they don't know
>>572456137arbiskitogrynzealotscumvetpsyker
How DOES skullcrusher work?>tap their head to activate arby talent>they now take more damage?
>>572456725>Does anyone know?
>>572453404this guy toughs
>>572456754Skullcrusher does not increase damage when target is not staggered"Count as staggered" ironically doesn't countEven if a mod shows skullcrusher stacks on enemy, they do nothing when target is not staggered
>>572456459yeah i know>>572456515thanks. I need to makeit even more mismatched.
I dont know man
>>572456754Tap head>they now count as staggeredHit them more>Aply +40% skullcrusher each hit up to 80%However you need to actually stop attacking after the 5 seconds are up or it wont reapply (Only relevant for bosses, anything else should be dead before the 5 seconds are up)
>>572457042Why the fuck does that talent exist then
>>572456137Arbitrator is by far the easiest for sureOgryn is super easy in the low difficulties, but loops back around to being quite tricky in the higher difficulties, not a class for a retard to succeed at usually>gapZealot is pretty forgiving but just doesn't do anything if you're badVeteran shouldn't be difficult in theory, but retards either overcommit to the shooting meme and get raped by poxers, or forget to shoot at all and leave all the shooters aliveSkitarius is a build check and retards can't make good buildsPsyker should be piss easy after all the undeserved buffs, but again, build check that retards fail, also you can blow yourself up and many do>chasmScum is basically griefing if you're shit at the game, even if it's the best class if you're really good at the game.
>>572457147You can beat enemies 80% harder when they crawl on the groundOr grind bosses down 80% faster when zealot casts chorusAnd the talent is for recovering toughness on hit from bosses and arbites own DMG vs staggered talent (its different from skullcrusher)
i like to make posts. in ze morning, ja?
>>572457223>Veteran shouldn't be difficult in theory, but retards either overcommit to the shooting meme and get raped by poxers, or forget to shoot at all and leave all the shooters aliveThat's the problem with veteran, in aurics you can just ignore poxies and keep shootingIn havocs one or two poxies will fucking murder you and you have no option to shoot at all if your teammates don't guard youIt's the classics of shitter trench, everyone blames veteran while not doing anything useful
>>572456725Retard
Hive scum is good? It seems like it's a fun but limited gimmick class to me.
>>572457651Retard
>>572456395>implying
>>572456387Yes it is.
>>572457686worst class by far, squishiest class and doesn't have the damage output to justify it. It's like psyker pre-buffs but also does half the damage
>>572456459okay what about this
>>572457620They do that even in auric actually. It's not that frequent anymore that I see retarded vets in havoc 40, but I also only ever accept smoke vets anymore, which retards think is a bad blitz so it naturally filters them.Try looking at what your local noobtard vet does if you ever see one in auric during skittle season. Most of them would be better off playing arbitrator. "Vet with a dog" is true when you're incredibly shit at the game, and having infinite toughness would save most of these droolers.
>>572456387>>572456725I just tested it and you're wrong. Concussive does work for skullcrusher. Not that it needed to be proven since it's common knowledge for anyone here who isn't a retard.
>>572458096>providing proofYou've insulted the schizo jeet's izzat and he will now proceed to have an hours-long meltdown.
>>572458053Nta, but looks cool
>>572458085I see you are one of the shitters who blame everything on vets when you are the problem for not creating space for vet to work
>>572457147He's lying btw
>>572458096What the fuck were you even trying to prove?Read how skullcrusher works again >>572457042
>>572458207Cool hallucination but I literally main bodyguard classes and make an effort to stick close to my squishies. My two most played builds are stagger spam and infinite space creation. I can sniff out dogshit vets from miles away.A good vet doesn't fold to 2 poxwalkers when I look away for a second. A good vet doesn't panic spam his melee when the zealot or arbitrator is literally inside of his hitbox and mulching everything that gets close.
Are servoskull kills not being recorded in the killfeed, or is my improved killfeed mod bugging out?
>smokeschizo is here againNext he will tell us how ripperguns are the best guns in the game.
>>572458285Not how it works, you fucking mongoloid. It's very easy to apply and has nothing to do with the enemy's current stagger state. It only needs for the enemy to be staggered when being hit for skullcrusher to apply for the next 5 seconds after the last skullcrusher applicationThis is not up for debate and any further retarded arguments from you should be considered bait and dismissed instantly
>>572458454>everyone I disagree with is the same personSmoke is vet's best blitz, my dear malice warrior.Rippergun is useless dogshit and goes in the bin.
>>572458362Zealots don't do that, zealots piss and shit themselves while running away from enemies "kiting", then complain how they are the last players alive
>>572458443They don't show up in the feed
>>572458514Okay rippertard. Now fuck off to your uprising lobby.
>>572458495Whatever you say, moron
>>572458525I'm sure this happens when (You) play zealot, but I cannot relate.
>>572458576You got destroyedSit the fuck down and be humble, bitch
>>572456395Why do vermintrannies want darktide 2 so badly?
why are you guys so hostile to each other
>>572458443Direct kills appear, dot kills (burn) don't
>>572458617I have only so much time to spare on ignorant fools. Go be retarded somewhere else.
>>572458647>>572458178Darktide is a turd-worlder game.
>>57245864740kfags ruined /coopg/
Hey Sven, when you made the aimbot ult for Skit, did you make sure it works when the enemy is strafing?
>>572458705Convenient that your time ran out as soon as you got dunked on
arbites is incredibly low stress gamingif a bunch of elites show up I just break the line and beat them all to death on the floorif more show up I break the line again because it has no downtimeif a special is running in I just tell my dog to go rape themif anything annoys me I instantly obliterate it with the exterminatorif I need to do something I can throw down a shock mine and ignore hordes
>>572458757We just test it in the Psykanium so this isnt a problem
Retard
>>572458514how does one use smokes properlyt. krakcel
>>572458641>abandon first game to make an unnecessary sequelIt's just what they did with the vermintide is all.
>hur dur concuthive doethn't work for thkullcruther durrWhat a retarded little bitch. Hope he kills himself
>>572458982Pretend it's a psyker bubble and put it where you or an ally are about to be. Peek the edge like it's a wall in counter strike.>but what if I back up, I can't seeThe enemy can't see either, dogs can't get you inside it, trappers have to pass the threshold to even target you which means they're now in melee range.>but why not bubbleIt only has so much HP and havoc 40 gunners rape it as soon as its invulnerability period ends. Smokes are invulnerable. The only advantages bubble brings are warding off bombers and burgles.
>I lost an internet argument, quick, assemble a discord raiding party
>>572459138but who takes care of armor spam if you dont have a krak vet
I'm noticing how smokecels never post any footage of smokes being le good and bubble being le bad. They also never reared their heads until THAT "meta build" video got made.
>>572459307Hi tranner, how is it going
>>572459190>gets dunked on for being a retarded bitch>WAH WAH I'M BEING PERSECUTED AND GANG STALKEDPathetic. Just stop being wrong and retarded then i won't have to destroy you again
>>572459138Smokes also have an insanely high chance to make gunners just walk up to you if they're not stuck in an active suppression fire mode too, which is one of the most overlooked things about smokes in maps with asshole choke points in havoc like hourglass maps.
>>572459307If you can't figure it out by yourself with a little testing then you're honestly insanely retarded
>>572459282DPS takes care of the armor spam if you don't have a krak vet. DPS takes care of bosses too, if you don't have a krak vet.Any support build that applies Skullcrusher and brittleness, + 2 high DPS builds should be able to clear armor blobs without much trouble. Crusher zealot does both of these while providing unprecedented stability. Ogryn can do this pretty well (brittleness on GG or rumbler). Skittle also applies lots of brittleness and happens to have a lot of control built in, so it's not even half bad either.>>572459307How the fuck are you supposed to prove that smokes are good when the effect they have is the ABSENCE of gun fire? Spend literally a single game observing how they work yourself and you will immediately see the effect they have on dogs, trappers, and shooters.
>>572459410>>572459540>>572459642uh oh smokecel MELTYThey still don't work properly btw. Had fun watching a smoketard throw them and then still get gunned down like a ghetto thug.
I think time will vindicate the medicae skull as a valuable pick, and noosphere will remain valuable even if they nerf it. The unique advantage a Skitarii brings is action economy.
>>572459710When is skitarii video?
>spawn 20 gunners>cast bubble>10 seconds later i'm being shot>spawn 20 gunners>throw smoke>10 seconds later i'm not being shot>wtf how is this good for not getting shot???
>>572459710Anon it's okay to dislike smokes and it's okay to rely on frags or kraks in your kiddie pool auric games where support abilities are literally pointless and borderline self-griefing because your teammates are somehow even dumber than (You) are. But please don't butt into adult conversations about a mode that is literally insurmountably difficult for the likes of (You).
>>572459710>loses argument>switches to trollingGG. Better luck next time, squirt
>>572459758>another eceleb mentionThank you for admitting you got your smokes meta from some nigger's video! Now go back to DESTROYING those gunners on uprising!>>572459810Oh you don't need to larp so much my little ASSlet. Your delusions aren't healthy.
>smoketard samefagging off the chartsTypical for niggers and troons like xim. Are you throwing them to hide your axe wound?
You can tell by >>572459886's increased level of hostility that he's very mad about getting owned
>noooo havoc 40 is so hard>omg bullshit mode>skyrim difficulty!!!>wtf shooters instantly kill you!!!!>okay anon but just use smokes they make shooters stop existing>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU MUUUSSSTTT!!!! HAVE KRAK>okay bring two vets I'm not your dad>NNNOOOOO RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASSlet vetsissies really are the dumbest niggers this game has to offer.
>>572460073Trvke
Not everything revolves about izzat my little thirdie subhuman shitskin.>>572460073The projection is truly astonishing. Fuck off and come back when you're able to clear malice.
>>572460138How red is your face right now?
>skittles so mid that we reverted back to havocsissies vs non-havocsissies baitinggrim grim grim
This general wasn't this retard before Havoc got added.
>>572460138I have missed exactly a single season of havoc 40 and my True Survivor count is at 5, I believe. No idea why you're trying to LARP as a havoc player when everyone can tell by your opinion on smoke grenades that you couldn't clear even 30 if you tried, hardstuckie.Go ahead, finish your humiliation ritual and post the zealot main menu "True Survivor" screenshot so we can call you out again.
Running Redline Capacitors with max CD claw.What blessings do you guys run with the tranny blades?
>>572460138>izzatI'm noticing
>MY TRUE SURVIVOR COUNT IS AT 5This is the most pathetic thing I've ever read in this general. The LARP is off the charts.
>>572460337shred and superiority for me
what the helli, that is not very wholesome of the cute skittlebugs
>>572460462>>572460138meltdown alertreactor core unstablevery high peril
>>572460357I'm sure it's difficult for you to imagine that such things are even possible when you've had to cheat you even get ASS, my dear curry monger.
>>572460462And the tears in your eyes and shit in your diaper is also from laughing?
Every day this thread reminds me sticking to auric was the right choice.
>>572460812If you think smokes are bad and that enemies are only debuffed by skullcrusher while actively staggered then that's where you belong
>>572459748I think you're right, it's also why skits suck when stacked in havoc.
>>572460615>>572460619>>572460741uh oh malicelets are angry after getting called out!maybe throw some more smokes so no one will see your tears
>doesn't understand smokes>doesn't understand skullcrusher>doesn't understand scum crateNo wonder they/them main arbitrator lol
>>572460937Your bait doesn't even make sense, even normgroids aren't retarded enough to use smokes in malice
uh oh uprisingstuckie is projecting his own failings again!
>>572460937>acts uppity>gets completely fucking raped>proceeds to squeek your rapist's own insults back to themLol. You're really bad at this
>>572460932I think this argument is giving me secondhand autism and I play games to have a good time.
>>572461091Our resident ASSlets are retarded enough to use them in Havoc thougheverbeit.>>572461124Thank you for sharing your experience. You really are a strong woman. I hope you will manage to recover.
>>572461220>no u!Here you go repeating my own insult back at me again. It was so easy to beat you
>>572461220So which one is it, schizo LARPgod? Are they malicelets or ASSlets? Or even True Shitters? Only one of these can be true, they're mutually exclusive.
>>572461394Smoked his ass
That settles itSmokes are good and you're a retarded shitter if you disagree.*bangs gavel*
Which weapons have a parry? Just the dueling sword?
>>572461694Catachan devil's claw and the duelling sword
>>572461694And devil claw. Trans blades also have some weird block counter mechanic that I'm sure does something or other in malice where fatshark intended for it to be used.
/coopg/scholars, what is the skittle method. What's the best setup for the class.
>>572461896shock and cog torturethe claw
>>572461896Any logical combination of perks. Skitarii is unironically the easiest character to build when you read the skills and apply a little bit of Lego construction.>Zap build + auto aim + Arc Rifle>Zap build + maximum tank + Arc Maul>Crit + claw + stagger resistanceetc.
>>572458514Smokes are shit.>b-but rangedFucking slide and dodge, retard.
>>572462348You got raped. Let it go
>>572461896>What's the best setup for the class.Noospheric Command. That's it. That's the build. No ability, no capacitance generation, just the noosy and generic blues that make you better at fighting.
Adding havoc to Darktide was a mistake. But none of you are mature enough to discuss that.
>>572462482Voltaic Emitter is better.
>>572457686Dual Stub Pistols are comfy but you NEED to be good at landing headshots.Your job is to delete the fuck out of gunners, shooters and (squishy) specials as soon as they appear.With Desperado you're basically immune to gunfire whenever it's up, so use that to push back any time the shooty guys try suppressing you.
>>572462639I'm sure VE is better for players who are too dumb to set companion tag to single click and actually utilize it.Also they're not mutually exclusive, you can run VE with skull, it just needs a lot of capacitance generation, which isn't difficult to come by (but costs some precious points unfortunately).I've run VE, it's very good, but I don't believe holding on to 2 charges is better than just spamming the skull. It's better at actually killing important targets than a veteran teammate.
>>572462527havoc is alright just needs some tweaking, you need a mode for competitive sweatoids to stop screeching about difficulty, the real offenders are mortis and expeditions, the work put into those would have given us mutliple new normal missions
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4XQYkga
>>572462482What's the skill tree for Noospheric spam.
>>572461829>>572461752Devil claw any good?
>Just tried the Machanicus Power Sword for the first timeWeW.This weapon is proof that FatShart just slap weapon combos together at random.Unironically what were they thinking with this moveset?
>>572463043It's better at parrying than drooling swordIt's hoppeless against armorCould be alright with arc rifle I guess
>>572456624>Zealot (easy but useless)Wut, Purity or good toughness reduction aura, insane boss dam (literally one shots bosses lol) or relic spam (how is that useless? xd)The craziest bait I've ever seen basically.
>>572463158Neat, I might give it a try some time
>>572462994>concussivemay a scholar of the chan provide enlightenment for a humble pleb on what the FUCK the SWEDES meant by THIS
>>572462997The skull does not benefit from your buffs (except brittleness, which it doesn't need), but it does trigger and refresh your buffs, so ranged kill nodes should all trigger without pulling your gun out.Build it however you want, this is just how I build it in havoc 40. Transphobic blades hit 60% crit and cleave through everything, applying shock (stun) and brittleness to every target while also dealing really good damage.>what gunI use the phosphor pistol if I want to win in havoc, and the explosive plasma if I want to have fun in auric.This isn't the peak of possible melee damage btw, I'm sure Redline builds squeeze out more with their 37.5% strength.
>>572463215This is a false flag to make zealots look gay, but I agree regardless
>>572451239>>572451265>>572454709Is there anything I can do with old weapons I'm not using anymore other than converting them to weapon XP?
>>572463370You can discard them from your inventory which lets you recover dockets, plasteel and diamantine from them, which I recommend doing for purple and orange weapons over sacrificing.
>>572463370You can upgrade them to green and then sacrifice them (same weapon gives much more progression, so sacrifice a dueling sword to level up a dueling sword, not a club).Otherwise no, just trash them.
>>572463325You run noonsphere with no capacitance regen talents?
>>572463571Yeah, fatshark, in their infinite wisdom, made the ability drain 25% capacitance, but not COST 25% capacitance, so you can spam it indefinitely if you're fine with never using your ability.
>>572463318It means that talents that trigger from inflicting stagger or hitting staggered enemies will work on this target but it doesn't actually get staggered (execute stsggered animation)
>>572463641oh thank you :D
>>572462776>you need a mode for competitive sweatoids to stop screeching about difficultyYou don't. You just tell them to fuck off.
Shitters don't like havoc because it's a reminder of the fact that they're shitters and it means that the shitters are now unable to engage in most discussions about darktide because no one cares what's good in their heresy matches
>>572464067Trvke
>>572464067This is true and the reason havoc mindbroke all the Dunning-Krugroids in this general.
>>572464067>>572464182>>572464185h4rdc0re af bros
>>572463620Oh lmao, I guess that's a fine tradeoff honestly given how strong their abilities can be (when they work as intended)
>>572464275>t. got stuck at havoc 23 and is still angry about it
>>572464329I haven't played havoc once. just a civvie admiring some hardcore mf's.
>What it feels like to run Skitty Blitzesless
Shitter genocide
>>572464067I don't like havoc because I get DECLINED and it hurts my ego (and also wastes hours of my life to find a single game which will be lost in a 2nd room because I only get accepted into lobbies that accept everyone)
>play expeditions and Mortis because of penances>decide to do Aurics/damnation to not make it a snooze fest>immediate PTSD from the 20-30 trench in Havoc as you have to deal with fucking EVERYTHING in a time sensitive game mode where it ends up throwing so much bullshit at you it turns into a solo havoc run.I truly do not understand how the playerbase is this fucking stupid.
>>572464581we rule this thread
>>572464594nigga just host>b-but my own assignment is level 17filtered
>>572464594It was very brave of you to share this with us and i am honored by the fact that you feel this comfortable around us. Namaste
>>572463325Rampage and superiority are better on those.
>>572464854Reginald is a retard
>>572464067I don't like havoc because it's shittily designed and epitome of artificial difficulty.It's a worthless gamemode that was never needed.t. TS H40 ogryn who retired after getting all penances.
>>572464854Both are very good, but the purpose of this setup is crit cleaving through multiple enemies and staggering everything for safety purposes, and the damage is perfectly good without relying on those blessings.>>572464923Reginald is a retard but he is sometimes right.I'd suggest you test it yourselves but considering the earlier havoc meltie, chances are you've never played a difficulty higher than auric.
>>572464476yet you still seethe about it lel, bro is afraid of getting his ego shattered
>>572464923Not sure what that Jeet has to do with anything here but ok.
>>572465258Bro pretending like he didn't get his opinions downloaded straight into his brain from reginald
>>572465337Contrarianism isn't a stand-in for personality, teenager-kun.
why does every single jabroni in the mourningstar hate skitties?
>>572465034I ain't seething bro. I admire those who play havoc 40 cause I ain't got time or will 2 do that. I'm just out here trying to have casual fun.
>>572465379True. That's why i don't have retarded and wrong opinions like contrarians do
>>572465419>I'm just out here trying to have casual fun.But enough about your Grindr bio
>>572465337No?I just figured out using rampage and superiority on my own.>hmmmm>should I put 2 of the best Strength blessings in the game on this weapon>hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm>totally nobody else can figure this shit out on their ownYou believing that only fucking youtubers can come up with this basic ass shit just says more about you than anything else.
>>572465545:3
>>572464697When I host decent players don't apply, it takes hours to gather a team.I quire literally don't understand why do I get autodeclined from every party and if it happens to other players as well, why do they not apply to my games.I only get retards with blue curios and sub 15 completed assignments which I already know is a huge red flag.No, it's not a double standard. I even take eviscerator zealots.
>>572465547I thought Rejeetnald was the one who suggested Perfect Strike (which is the correct blessing to use with shock CC spam)
>>572465656But it only shocks the first enemy hit. How will increased cleave help?
>>572465621you do NOT get to say that to his face..........
>>572465789It weirdly appears that it shocks extra targets with the infinite cleave, and I am not sure by what mechanism
>>572464697>want to try out the skittle in havoc at least once because I keep getting shitters or people do multi skittle parties (they never work out)>either nobody accepts because they already have a skittle or the party has 3 skittles and is doomed to fail>nobody joins unless I already start as zealot or psyker
>>572465806
>>572461829The sonic blades do seem to have a parry when you swap node during an attack. I've had a crusher get knocked back, the side swipe and not overhead. Not brave enough to try that. I swear I even blocked groaners/poxwalker attacks too without trying to.Now it could have simply been a perfect block, whatever the hell that is as fatshark doesn't explain shit and not a "parry" like the devil sword.
>>572461626Okay, but can we agree that the penance for them is bad?
Why do I dc straight back to the character select at the end of every havoc
>>572466367Just throw them inside spawn doors and get done with it in a few matches
>>572466414new bug, you like?
>>572466459It's ok, my wins are still counted but it scared me the first couple of times
>>572466598yeah it's not nearly as bad as it could be but it's still somewhat annoying.
>>572464682Probably not far off from the truth>>572464067Havoc is solved at this point though I’ve seemed everyone from consoles to third worlders clear it
>>572458816I look like that>>572458749*improved
>>572465649you can literally solo your way up to 30, just take whoever and then play for yourself instead of trying to babysit them
>>572467254>you can literally solo your way up to 30I don't think this is particularly realistic considering how difficult high 20s can be to actually solo. And you likely want a dedicated solo kiting build that can deal with everything, which isn't how you should normally build a havoc team.Not that it's impossible or anything, but it requires a very good player with a very good build to do this.
>Remove the depletion mechanic from havoc>Add quickplay to havocMode is fixed
>>572462994Guess someone got smoked
>>572467662I'd just make it 40's only, so they can start balancing around that instead of there being 39 pointless difficulties
I tried Recon Lasgun and it deals 0 dmg even with the burn perk. Why is everyone saying this is good? Even Autogun is better
>>572467662>>Remove the depletion mechanic from havoc>now every shitter can brute force their way to 40 No thank you. Havoc 40 game quality is infinitely better than auric precisely because shitters get filtered.
>>572468053you arent using it properly
>>572467802Smokes are good indeed, but annoying because they obstruct my vision, I'd rather be dead and go next then play every game with smokes.
>>572468106>Havoc 40 game quality is infinitely better than auric precisely because shitters get filtered.Yeah see people love to pretend this is the reason, but 99% of the time it's not "shitters" they filter, it's people not running the extremely narrow most OP meta builds that exist.
>>572468053Now try stacking crit and using Shock Trooper. Optionally, with the brown lasgun, Deadshot with piss tag stamina restore and a single stamina curio.Also aim at the head and put Dumdum as your second blessing.If you want real power, just use the laspistol.
>>572468161than*FUCK, minus one trillion izzats, sars
>>572468161They last like 15 seconds, I wish they stayed longer.And the latest update made them transparent.
>>572468326idk I played with smokes and it's still annoying, clearly not transparent enough
>>572466816Nvm it just fucked meI accidentally backed out of the character select and lost my group
>>572468161>be zealot in h40>walk forward>SMOKE OUT>pomf =3>I can't fucking see>continue pushing forward>THROWING SMOKE>pomf =3>jesus fucking christ>push further forward yet>vet is out of smokes or distracted or something>wait a second there's a zillion gunners in this seed>oof ouch owie>stamina on dodge just barely lets me slide to safetyI've been there before, but as annoying as it is, it's better than taking constant gunner fire. The vet is usually the only dedicated ranged class on the team anyway, and melee doesn't struggle much with visibility.I just wish they changed the effect some more to be less obscuring.
Smokes are funny to me>lets just shut off the enemy AI for a bit>this takes skill btw
>>572468464>>stamina on dodge just barely lets me slide to safetyToughness on dodge* whoops. Been playing too much skittle and too little zealot.
>>572468161Sometimes smokes are thick as FUCK and sometimes I can barely see them and I feel like fatshark fucked something up again.
>>572468573>>this takes skill btwConsidering there are retards in this very thread who do not pass the skill check required to click smokes in the skill tree, it evidently isn't as trivial as you're making it out to be.
>>572468573well throwing a krak and exploding a crusher or two doesn't make much more skill either
>>572468693I prefer to engage with the enemies when I'm playing, but if you want your pskyanium experience but in normal matches by all means
>>572468737take*FUCK, SAAAARS do not redeem
>>572468883I redeemed
>>572468986BLOOODY BASTARD WHY DID YOU REDEEM
>actually good designed difficulty increases>I sleep>JUST DEBUFF THE PLAYER VALUES AND BUFF THE ENEMY VALUES!! JUST LIKE TODD INTENDED>REAL SHIT
>>572467802>3 retards don't know how concussive works
>>572468815Oh yeah no absolutely, completely agree. Smokes are boring as fuck and actively anti-fun with how they limit visibility. They also require no executive skill to use, just a modicum of knowledge that can be spoonfed.It's just, y'know. Lead a horse to water and whatnot.
>>572469069I'm just following the example of the omnissiah
>>572462217where do you get stagger resistance?
I really like vermintide but the lack of servers and peer to peer connections is off putting. Host leaves and everyone is fucked. Host lags and the game sucks. Do you think they will ever give vermintide dedicated servers?
>>572469256The second node north does it, I think
>>572469319No. Your only choice is to play darktide
>>572469319no nigga - they won't, at this point just play modded with real gamers who have a good connection
>30 hours in darktide>only now discover I can change weapon passives
>smonk argument againJust fucking dodge and slide. You're playing H40, you should already know how to perfectly spam dodge you dipshits.>b-but playing perfectlyYeah, you are playing H40, you're playing the gamemode made for the 0.01% of the player base. I fucking expect your stupid dumbass to know the god damn basics. If you can't pass the fucking basics 100% of the time, you are BAD. Dem's the facts.Get your sorry fucking ass out of MY havoc and get your worthless lard ass back to Damnation until you figure out how the fucking dodge button works. You fucking fucktard shitter.
>>572468443We had just lost too, it probably looked like I ragequit
>>572469112vague enough bait it can be used for both sides.
>>572469821It is not physically possible to achieve enough melee DPS to kill a dense horde of armor while also sliding around with enough acccuracy to dodge every projectile. Stop LARPing as a havoc player, faggot.
539 dmg on a critical weakspot dmg.The light switch attack on the Transonic Blades does 539 against a fucking mauler with no combat abilities active, on a CRITICAL WEAKSPOT HIT WITH DEADLY FREAQUENCIES ACTIVE.PLEASE FUCKING DELETE THIS SHIT FROM THE MOVESET I BEG YOU.JUST MAKE IT THE STAB STRIKE DOWN ATTACK EVERY TIME.YOU'RE RUINING MY DPS MINMAX FANTASY FATSHART
>>572469821My h40 lobby my rulesI'm taking the smoke.
>>572470370???that's switch attack when you swap to cleave mode, why would you expect it to be good vs fucking carapace
>>572470369It is when you're not a lowtier fucking shitter crutching on fucking smokes of all things.
>>572470370>weapon that goes up to 60% crit>on a class with crit = zap = brittleness>on a class with a ton of rending available if you prefer that over crit spam>complains about armor damage on a target that has no brittleness stacks applied>on a weapon that usually just horizontal cleave spams anyway to stunlock everythingI think your problem is that you're trying to brute force the wrong way to use it.
So we went from smoke is useless dogshit and horseshoed ourselves to smoke is too overpowered and unfun for the sake of argument when the original argument was purely effectiveness?
>>572470370That's just a weakspot hit.Critical weakspot is orange.
>>572467802I mean it's technically true, the interaction is bugged so it only lasts for 3 seconds on application, then you have to actually stagger the target or wait until concussive drops off to reapply.
>>572470752No?Smokes are fucking awful, stop using them. They're trash.Just bring kraks instead for boss rape.
>smoke argument>me taunt ogryn with paul/skullcrushersimagine needing smonks lel>taunts your ass
Take neither smoke or bubble, learn to fucking play the game so simple missions don't take 30 minutes
>>572470948Bosses are a non-issue if you pass the team composition check. Even twins can get raped in under 10 seconds. Nothing replaces the usefulness of smokes.
>>572469112They really don't know how scullcrusher works if anything
Outside of Jittery and Nimble, what else do i pick for Scummer now? I'm not sure if Hyper Violence/Critical are good, and if any of the Rampage enhancements outside of the elite one are usable
>>572470925>it only lasts for 3 seconds on application, then you have to actually stagger the target or wait until concussive drops off to reapply.This is the funniest copeg mythIt's hard to imagine what mental gymnastics you had to go through to make this shit upI still remember how regards were fearmongering about concussive breaking scullcrusher, funniest shit
>>572471242>Nothing replaces the usefulness of smokes.Dodging replaces it instantly.Fuck, just bring psyker bubble even.>b-but shriekMotherfucker, psyker already alone does like 60 gorillion damage in a single fucking mission, and screenwipes everything in like 10 seconds.You don't need another 10 gorillion damage that only improves your TTK like 1-2 seconds.
>>572471692>It's hard to imagine what mental gymnastics you had to go through to make this shit upI know it's going to make the resident Canadian really mad that I'm about to say this but, genuinely, unironically, it is izzat farming.>says something retarded>gets BTFO'd>needs to save face now and triples down>lots of newfags in the general so they're dumb enough to believe a confident enough troll
>>572471061yeah fuck the bubble but after you learn how2play having smokes is really useful for the dire situationskraks are niggerbait, the bosses melt anyway, I'd rather have the gunners/snipers get off my back while we're wailing on the triplets/whatnot bullshit>t. h40 spammer
>>572471809>Fuck, just bring psyker bubble even.Yeah accept my concession or whatever but you're too retarded for me to even want to argue with. There's no helping you.
>>572471854You are so fucking retarded you can't even tell I'm the same person who started this argument about skullcrusher and that is a different anon bringing up a different myth
So is chem depend a memestone or is it still his only good one
>>572470574Because i wanna stack utilize the deadly frequencies buff and stay in armor mode without having to use an attack that bounces off the enemy?I know it's hard to believe, but sometimes, just sometimes, more than one enemy with armor spawns.>>572470627I'm not using the brittleness or combat ability stacks exactly to show how fucking shit the dmg is.I know i could run flensing protocols on TBs, but the attackspeed is so ass on them that i honestly preferer using the M-Powersword for that, the dmg is not even comparable.The M-Powersword will just 1-tap crushers on an empowered critical weakspot with fully stacked combat ability buffs.>>572470804No?Regular weakspots hit are orange and the critical is yellow for some fucking reason
>>572472171Who even do you think you're talking toI don't think I'm the anon you're schizophrenically imagining I am.
>>572472253chem and adrenaline are gudthe third one is notI preemptively accept all of your concessions.
Have you noticed bad hit registration since last patch? I began to notice shots without damage.
>>572472267>I'm not using the brittleness or combat ability stacks exactly to show how fucking shit the dmg is.>I'm not using the exact thing that makes this weapon actually good (if not excellent) to show how shit it is when you don't do the thing that makes it goodUh, yeah. Exactly, anon.Flensing crit stacking to 60% is effectively giving you uncanny strike that also stuns. They do everything, and do it quickly enough. Being a little slow to start stacking brittleness doesn't matter when the target is standing there having a seizure.
>>572472286Do you think I can't tell? You are really hopeless.
>>572472418I did with ogryn, I thought it was just skittles because of height but I am an ogryn main and saw it happening too, I play largest ogryn I know to look down but something is fucky
>release new DLC class>the old weapons are just as good if not better than the class unique optionsI hate this
>>572472418>I began to notice shots without damage.I've gotten the occasional headshot that looked like a headshot and played the headshot hitreg sound on my client, but the enemy took no damage. It doesn't happen often, but often enough to be annoying.
>>572472674old weaps are boring
>>572472418Yes the shotpistol on arbite keeps 'missing' even though I get both the sound and the blood splash of connecting with the enemy
>>572472674>revolver is invalidated by phosphor pistol>zap gun is top tier>transphobic blades are top tier if you build them right>mechanussy power sword is supposedly good according to some vagueposters who never explained why (I haven't used it, the moveset made me vomit)>maul is a top tier weapon with specific buildsI guess if you're low level and paying the toughness regen talent tax, the default weapons are indeed better. Especially the knife is amazing without talents, compared to the rest of the selection.
>>572472418>>572472741>>572472795always been like that t. non-NA who plays on NA server
>>572472473I'm running redline with this build because i like mashing claw.The TBs are the best weapons for horde clear Skitty has so i'm running those.If i wanted to run a crit focused build i'd just play scrum.
>>572472996Been like that since plasma nerf on EU
>>572472418Yea.Fatfuck probably forgot reset the server again lol.
>>572473045>The TBs are the best weapons for horde clear Skitty has so i'm running those.Devil's Claw is excellent too, if unarmored horde clear is all you need. It's dogshit against armor without jumping through hoops though, so bring your lightning gun for crushers and whatnot.
>>572472957I agree with you but you also point out one of the issues for me, which is that in order for most of the skitty weapons to shine you have to build to support them. I don't like that when there's options from the old selection that doesn't need the same. For example why is the skitty maul only good when you're supporting it with at least a couple of electrocution talents, but the arbite maul is just extremely good by default. It's annoying
>>572471460This is what I run personally for Chaxe Scum, if you're using a finesse weapon like shivs/combat blade then you're probably better off with hyper-critical (higher crit-rate plus it'll more consistently turn two-shots like maulers/ragers into one-shots than hyper-violence)Forge's Bellow is pretty optional, you could also move a few points around from Cheap Shots/Pickpocket and take Chemical Dependency instead, probably a better overall keystone but attack speed is fun.
>>572472957>>mechanussy power sword is supposedly good according to some vagueposters who never explained why (I haven't used it, the moveset made me vomit)it shits out damage, has an insane finesse rating and giga crits, spending charges barely debuffs the normal attacks and the charged attacks quick (and can be charged if you have time, so never) but like every power weapon, shit dodges, shit speed, shit stamina, slow sprint, I really like it
>>572472674phosphor pistol and arc rifle are better than anything else on the classtranny blades and arc maul are also better than any of the other melee choices
>>572473321People are actually running Devil's Claw with meme parry in H40?
>flamer runs up in melee, gets shot in the back by a teammate and kamikaze bombs you
>>572473131nah its always been like that.. I remember playin in beta with laser pistol with my NA friend and it felt soooo janky. I'd get hitmarkers and nothing. I hated the pistol for a long time because of that.
>>572473482Not often but I've seen a couple scum, psyker and veteran players use it. None of them stood out in any way other than using a weird weapon. Not particularly good or bad, so, yeah viable.
>>572473482NTA but claw is legitimately all I take in h40 with scum.If not claw, then tac axe.
>>572473589>>572473630Hum... aight.Imma try that.Does the parry at least have good into armor?
so does the chudclaw apply melee weapon effects, like Perfect Strike etc? or is it a separate weapon?
>>572473801meant>good cleave into armor?*
>>572473905it counts as its own separate weapon
>>572473801No, not really. Only scum can get away with it because the class has rending out the ass. Skittle can kinda sorta do it too but it's a lot slower and low DPS into armor without parries. Skullcrusher is an extremely powerful blessing though so it does help against armor if you can somehow apply a stun, just not you personally because double of nothing is still nothing.
Wtf is toughness grace period
>>572473905Sadly not.It doesn't gain any benefits from from weapon blessings, because it's coded as it's own weapon.Only talents work with it.Would have loved to stack Deadly Frequencies with chudclaw, but FS hates fun.
>>572474471One-shot protection. When your toughness breaks, you get a very short moment of huge damage reduction.
>>572474471It's the short period of invulnerability after toughness is fully depleted.
>>572474471it's the time the ogryn is preparing to anally break you
why do the normal daemonhosts keep spawning ontop of the hexbound ones in hab dreyko?
>>572475078because fatshark never actually tests their ritual locations, they just place them wherever without thinking about it. theres a specific ritual on vigil station and dark communion that immediately speeds up once you hit the spawn trigger, which essentially forces you to fight the daemonhost because its nearly impossible to reach it in time before it pops.
Reverent bouncing on my lap and calling me a cute piece of meat...
WHERE THE IS GRUGGIN NEW THEAD SAH?
>/havoclets/ finally diesgood
Thank you Brunt
>>572477179thanks dude
>>572477419Too slow :^)
hello there
>>572477687>raises shotpistol and shieldnothing personel
