Vascular Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>572302675
handy from geist with the ghost arm
Geist would probably use phrenology to justify her blatant racism and antisemitism.But please forgive her, she's from a different time!
Heatwave is over, Eurobros, we can get back to dominating Deadlock
>>572418616this art would've been so good if they actually made geist look like geist and not lady gaga
there isn't enough deadlock omorashi porn
why is venator's real name quinn that's such a nerdy faggot queer name and doesn't suit him at all
MOOOOODSTHE OP IS TOO LEEEEEEEWD
rollerblade hero when?
i wish mina would relentlessly bully me into pissing myself while crying then start holding me and comforting me and
>>572419369She's 150 years old you SICK fuck
>>572419507this except she's kicking and slapping me and grinding her nylon-clad foot on my crotch and she doesn't comfort me and instead bursts into laughter and more insults when I cumand instead of Mina it's Geist
>>572419535S E X OEXO
>>572419098I think I can see her pouty butthole...
>>572420020Um no you can't because it's been reposted a dozen times so I think my MS paintjob was flawless
how do i play more proactively? i feel like i'm always stuck in the "shove lanes > look for favorable fights" loop but i can never seem to find any so nothing ends up happening and the map ends up stuck in neutral as both sides play ping pong with waveslow phantom if it helps at all
Bebop SUCKS!
i keep dying as abrams. how do i make him tanky and how much do i actively want to be meleeing compared to just shooting?
>>572421112How do you subhumans fuck up a hero as simple as abrams? Keep siphon life active in fights, charge people, buy witchmail so siphon life is up more often
What elo does only push lane never team fight mirage stop working?
>>572419250I look like this
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO ASKEEEEEEEEED FOR HOLLIDAY BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFSSSSSSS>i love playing agaisnt holliday!SAID NO ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>572418616This is the kind of player getting Graves hotfix nerfed every other week. Say something nice about him!
>>572422685I wish drifter was good. Trying to main him sent me from Ascendant 4 to Phantom 4 no matter how well I did
>>572422820Graves is dogshit and just annoying. Easily exploits bad players with shit aim and bad movement. Her damage is shit and instead of making her interesting, balance-wise, they just made her skulls more annoying.Hes fucking stupid. Ive got 265 hours and am seeker 2
>>572422820>tfw you'll never have the opportunity to beat the shit out of this guy irl
i am rebon
Which characters do you think wet the bed canonically?
>>572422820I think this is actually probably a gravesfag coping that his character is trash and easy to play. Talking her up like she's difficult to pilot and posting basic advice like it's hidden chinese tech isn't really what I'd expect from someone who hates the character.
>>572424138silver from getting blackout drunk. she shits the bed too for the same reason
>>572424138viscous probably, but mostly because he probably doesn't really have a concept of what a bed isthis is assuming sea anemones even urinate in the first place, which i have zero clue if they do
>>572424138silverpaigerem
>>572422820Like half of deadlock players are overwatch/rivals players, basic lane creep management is to much for them.
>>572424138vyper
Does healbane work on fortitude?
>>572423147>Her damage is shit and instead of making her interesting, balance-wise, they just made her skulls more annoying.even worse, her damage was actually pretty good before the skull AI changes and graves players were enjoying how the character felt to play. THEN they made her skulls more annoying which made her OP so they nerfed her damage to compensate. now she feels like shit because she has no damage or meaningful power spike but she's also more annoying to play against because skulls are aids and chase you to the other side of the map. literally the worst of both worlds
>>572419250this is bussin unc, doorman is mossad coded for sure xD he's definitely in the files bruh fr xD
>>572424856In theory but they should never actually interact since healbane last 8 seconds and fortitude is a 10 second delay when not taking damage.
>>572424138Vindicta has nightmares about her death and wakes up bawling and gasping like a little girl covering her bed in urine
Is doorman a epstein maxxer?
>>572424138did you pee yourself again
>>572424138rem is literally the bedwetter's spirit animal
>>572424460she only shits the bed when she drinks roofied drinks on purpose
>>572424138>>572424460>>572424563>>572424603>>572424785>>572425391>>572425732
>mirage literally only team fights once and just pushes lanes non-stopLegit should be bannable
>>572425889no
>>57241874215 minutes a day and i already made the kovaaks playlists for you: https://files.catbox.moe/ml75z4.zip
>>572424631i was a csgo player. this game rapes my brain
this game is actually so blatantly rigged it's insane>win a bunch of games, hit new peak rank>suddenly get a huge streak of the most impossible games on earth where every lane gets effortlessly demolished and the soul lead is so bad that the first urn is a comeback with like 15k diff>plummet in rank>grind harder to win it back>game eventually relents and gives you the easiest games of your life so you coast back up and maybe hit a new peak rank and your dopamine goes crazy and makes you feel like grinding more>game then punishes you with the most impossible games on earth, teammates become significantly and noticeably worse despite gameplay being in a supposedly higher skill bracket>repeat ad infinitum
>>572424138rempocketpaigevypersinclair
>>572426164its called eomm
>>572426164https://files.catbox.moe/ikg7lt.png
List of fun things to do in this game>push lanes>>>>>>
>>572426985rape on a smurf
>>572427013I can't invite my alt account, do I have to buy something on it first?
>>572427140yes 5 bucks
Where do you even do aimtraining for this game? Just shooting the birds in spawn?
What elo does spamming mokrill stop working?
its getting nerfed.Express shot+Mystic shot viscous. Alt Fire
What is a good player rank?
>>572427201Can I use my normal card or will that get tracked? I got my alt banned from dota and my main got a warning for it.
>>572426985>>List of fun things to do in this game>echo spirit nuke cage warden>owl talon>quadruple curse talon>magic carpet rem>gun yamato against noobs>majestic leap phantom strike goo ball
>>572427412you're brown
>>572427412no one has goten banned for smurfing in deadlock yet. most streamers do it
>>572427513Answer the question jew.
>>572427584Right on, will get on it after I'm done with the dota event.
>>572427209fixate on a point and hold your mouse there as close and smoothly as possible while moving around with wasd and. flick between random distinct spots
>>572427209https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2rk0xLpJeg
am i doing this right?
>>572428012>posting "aim community" cheater trannyFuck off.
>>572428249thats a man
Sheesh why does it take 5 billion years to get out of initiate?
>>572428587You belonged there
>>572427327>nerfing needing to spend 4.8k to do as much as a naked pillow toss
>>572429026I guessWhat's even the point of climbing ranks anyway? Nothing tangible of course
>>572427209Just play.
>>572430060because the game is far more enjoyable when everyone in the lobby knows how to play. it's like an orchestra vs a homeless beggars smacking 5 gallon buckets and wooden sticks for tips
>>572419250The Goyman
>defending both walkers by myself>lose both walkers>see what my teamates are doing>teamfighting in enemy jungleAFK TIME! :D
>Enemy team has meltie>It's some faggotWhy are they like this
>enemy team up by 25% souls>they have 3 rejuvs>they still back after p1 patron >forced to wait another 7 minutes for them to end
>teamate taking a whole minute looking through the buy menu while i'm dying in lane>teamate abandons lane to gank a lane losing us a walkerAFK TIME! :D
>afk long enough to get booted>rejoin the game>can leave the game without penaltyI'm going to use this as much as possible until it gets patched
>teammate buys monster rounds/extra regen/high velocity rounds first buyAFK TIME! :D
>be filthy niggerAFK TIME! :D
>>572433289you got a penalty the minute that prompt came up even if you rejoined
In 400 hours of deadlock i have literally never bought monster rounds, am i missing out?
>>572433318>high velocity roundswhat's wrong with this as long as it's not paige? do you start throwing when your warden buys it?
>>572433859You take a decent chunk of damage from troopers in lane and it helps when you tower dive so it works defensively and offensively, speeds up farming camps too and can be sold later for the slot. I get it basically every game.
>lane partner buys egg then trophy collector as very first two itemsAFK TIME! :D
>Lane partner zips all the way back to walker to collect boxes as wave crashes into guardianAFK TIME! :D
>>572434064yeah
>>572434223what? you're getting a ton of solo farm if they're retarded enough to do that
i miss the guy who would afk on mnk/kelvin if he didnt get graves
>>572434278>rushing tankbusteris this initiate 1?
>>572434278you'd be 30-0 if you didnt go egg
Graves was murdered in less than a week. Why are they so pick and choosy when it's comes to balance?
>>572435046nobody except seven is overpowered right now and they keep nerfing him but it doesnt matter cause he's just OP in every way he breaks the game
>>572433465That's weird because I didnt get penalized and was able to queue again.Nice try shitter.You the same retard that try to troll a couple threads back by claiming disconnecting from said non-penalized lobbies put you in "bad boy" low prio queues?lol, lmao even
>>572435162Pocket
>>572434814>doesn't recognize mathematically optimized afk owl build
>>572435162t. holiday player
>decide to play some support McGinnis>get in game and have a somewhat decent lane>no stomp but we're up in souls from denials and maintaining pressure>all of sudden enemy rem and shiv are in lane, and their FED>see our right walker taken out>Victor is 0/11>look at the map and he's just running in everytime not caring if he dies.>the haze he queued with is aimlessly firing and staying so far back that even if they did hit something it'd do nothing>they make sure not to text but troll in voiceNaturally it was my fault we lost the game.After all I made the decision to queue.Fuck every last nigger that claims i'm the reason I'm stuck in shitlow.You have no ground.
>>572435248>>572435492both annoying evasive heroes but doesnt mean they're as broken as sevenI'd say calico is worse than both of them too
>open deadlock>double prio doorman>mute everyone>bellboy >annoy the enemy>low cortisol>winfuck playing anything else
>>572436378Affliction is currently in the war for strongest ult in the game on a character with insane mobility, burst damage, and one of the best scaling guns in the game.
>low damage because i kill the enemies too quickly
>>572436513yes but retards commonly only hit 1-2 so it's not that bad.
>>572436378>I'd say calico is worse than both of them tooyou're hitting the pipe pretty hard if you think she's as problematic as holliday or pocket these days, let alone worse
>>572424138Paige and Rem
>>572436053You dont have perspective. That shitstain duo had the same chance to be put on the enemy team. And when they did get put on the enemy team you pat yourself on the back for going 11-0. The Wr balances out. It is your fault
>>572436550>reloading 99% of the time because your firerate is too fast and you empty your mag in .0001 seconds
>>572437170Not everyone thinks like you.My opponents were understanding and knew they were intentionally throwing the game.I'm assuming they reported them when we asked them to but of course you never know.I always report obvious griefers ally or no.It is NOT my fault
>>572435046Pocket is inexplicably "hard" to play for most deadcock shitters so his winrate remains low and him being OP is under the radar for most of the playerbase, so yoshi won't nerf him.
insane lane pull
>>572437843>shiv's into scat
Yoshi add a Forfeit option WITH majority vote over unanimous already.So fucking dumb we can be held hostage by some retard nigger who derives pleasure from feeding the enemy.
>>572438538on my smurf i purposely dont do objectives so i can rape the enemy team longer
>>572437170What happened to Usagi...
>>572438739kys Moonlight Shamrock
im glad my sinclair bought crushing fists instead of echo shard web
it's over...
>>572438186Reminds me of a prison story where a man was raped and had his anus cut by a shank while it was happening
>>572440406seven......
>>572440406This is how Shiv got his name
>In Hindu mythology, Shiva (often spelled Shiv) is one of the principal deities of Hinduism. He is known as the "Destroyer" within the Trimurti, the Hindu trinity that also includes Brahma and Vishnu. He represents the supreme being, and is known for his deep meditation
>>572440890no wonder he's into scat
>>572437078At my rank (phantom) she's pretty good but seven is beyond broken
I've decided to beat my head against this shitlow wall my way.Im going to play nothing but support heroes on support builds.
shiv isn't indian nor into scat stop the propaganda
>>572441853This is what an Indian would say.
>>572441661>get two supports on my team>they barely buy any Active counter items>we losesee you in the next life
>>572441940No, an Indian would imply that it's completely normal to be into scat, and that Shiv is a visionary and an honorary Indian.
>>572443165wrongindians want less competition so they try to defame him and claim he isn't into scat
why is playing m1 carry so free? over 100 shiv games and i couldve just spammed wraith and seven for free elo
When will valve add a fox to deadlock?
>Youtube recommends me a Deadlock presentation video>at some point the e-celeb says "it's basically LoL in third person">check comments>"I have to say I don't understand the comparison with LoL [awkward laugh emoji] it's more like Valorant but not LoL a game like LoL in first person [sic] would be SMITE I don't know if you're sponsored by the game but honestly it looks terrible and brings nothing new to the table" (imagine I made several spelling and grammar mistakes)How do we stop people making hero shooter slop comparisons? It has creeps, level ups and an item shop. Anything that would qualify this as a "hero shooter" (uuuuh it has le heroes with abilities) is already found in an MOBA, you gain no additional information by adding the hero shooter moniker beyond "it has guns", even universal movement techniques aren't exclusive to hero shooters.
>>572444032i mean yeah u keep up your gun 7/24 spirit skills having a cooldown and extra requirements like placement make it harder to play compared to gun anyone can play wraith and do good in the end its about having fun
>>572444032Shiv kind of sucks to be honest with you. The hero has a high ceiling for the amount of bullshit he can pull off but it's really easy to stop him from ever getting there just by counter buying, and because he's so bad at farming it's easy for him to fall behind and become completely useless. Before we even talk about carries having more agency than him every other frontline hero has more impact on average than Shiv.
>>572444431i think the comparison being made is that all of these games suck
So when do you think we will have censored chat?People are already crying because they see the forbidden word
>>572445384The chat censors slurs and swearing by default, you have to opt in to seeing the nigger word.
>>572445384You can say nigger in every other valve game so no
>>572445384its already censored unless you go out of your way to turn it off on steam
>>572445384It’s really fascinating how in the world where people get banned for saying “ez”, people advocate for chat restrictions
>>572445384Seven would be the type of person to use the hard R
Yoshi you faggot buff Silver now
>Hit a sinners 3 times>Faggot Haze runs in and steals it>I tell her I'm going to afk at the sinners spawn until it respawns>She goes on allchat immediately to beg for "9x our Victor please, griefing"
>Me when someone tries to give me genuine advice and to not trust a hand I found by following a disembodied voice in a graveyard (gave me the ick)
>>572445964the funny thing is i think apollo is one of the few heroes that DOESNT comment on how retarded she is for getting groomed by a lich and that somehow makes him an ideal partner for the tumblrtroon shipper segment of the playerbase
>>572446092>and that somehow makes him an ideal partnerI think its moreso theyre classmates and for a moment seemed to genuinely notice her (asking why she wasnt in class)
>>572445964Owes me sex
I csnt wait until they increase the map size and rework the jungle so drifter can finally be meta
At what rank does building full Spirit on Victor and running at them like a drooling retard stop working?
>>572446608Emissary is when people start consistently counterbuying
>>572446608Night shift 6
>>572446758>>572446934NA pro scene here I come.
>>572445950This is genuinely how you need to treat sinners thieves. You cant let them think they own every resource on the map>Buh buh buh im a m1gger i need my 8000000 souls fullbuild to carryFirst come first serve
Is Mystic Vulnerability/Escalating Exposure the best damage item on graves?
>>572447205Please stop playing Graves the hero is worthless
>>572447205>taps light melee one(1) timenice spirit """damage""" retard
When are they going to make Mirage not a lane autowin?
>>572447835Add a cooldown to mystic regeneration
back in my day, mina + apollo was considered to be the nightmare lane duo to play againstbut somehow the current holliday + doorman is a worse niggercancer than mina + apollo ever was
>>572445950>>572447140go around shooting one single time each neutral he tries to farm to get half its souls
>>572448219It's amazing how complete bullshit they made holliday
>>572419430>yfw all the sandniggers there still eat it off the floor
>>572448219Apollo would be the most raped hero in the game right now if Graves didn't exist.
>>572446092Haze also tries grooming her into being a fed.
>>572422820He need to kill himself
crazy loss streak where i played well but lost because every other lane was 0/5 by the time guardians fell feels really bad
>>572449454Once you lose two games in a row you have to switch to a m1gger carry because you'll start getting put into lower MMR lobbies the game expects you to carry.
When are they nerfing kelvins ult?
>>572444032But who cares about mmr just play what you want. Obviously the braindead afk farmers have an advantage when they basically press one button and win
>>572445820Sorry chud S(+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++)ilver will get nerfs, she is too effective at wasting the enemy's time for 7 picto seconds
>>572444032Why is this retard so weak and why does Yoshit keep nerfing him?>underwhelming performance in pubs at low MMR>just middling performance at high MMR and in competitions>for some reason people believe the average Shiv player is one of the OTP autists that never miss a knife or never misses an alt fire walljump
>>572444431Honestly there are no moba elements in this game besides the items. There's no strategy. Even less than league of legends somehow. Overwatch stadium has items so I dont think items is enough to consider this a moba. It really is just a hero shooter with gimmicky items to snowball and make the game miserable for 30 minutes when someone feeds.
>>572450602>he can't hit the combo and deal half the damage to a single hero that a regular b tier hero deals with mindless aoe spam stop downplaying her you don't have hands
>>572450814>Honestly there are no moba elements in this game besides the itemsExcept the creeps, jungle, neutral objectives that give team wide buffs, active items, character stats scaling with level, towers, base objectives spawning mega creeps, base to destroy. Just because the game has simplified macro and micro MOBA mechanics (no wards, very simplified last-hitting...) doesn't change its genre. It has more in common with something like Monday Night Combat, which was also considered a shooter MOBA at the time.You're also saying this as if Overshart released with Stadium and the mode wasn't magically added after Deadlock's leak. I could MAYBE see a comparison with Apex Legends since it has similar movement tech and they added something akin to DotA 2 talents after a while.
>>572451479there are no such things as levels in this game it's all about money and the items are braindead stat sticks
>>572451479>>572451695Also "there are objectives to destroy" yeah, but all you need to do is grab mid boss and you get all of them at once in 90% of games lmao. You group up on the overwatch king of the hill objective, do boss, the run it down a lane like it's payload. Genuinely terrible gameplay right now and definitely doesnt feel like a moba
>>572450814>There's no strategy.somehow Deadlock manages to be something lesser than hero shooters and MOBAs bothit literally feels more like a mindless ARAM slugfest than anything
>>572451695This dumb retard nigger doesn't even know about boons.
>>572451479>no wardsFor now...I really liked the day night idea we had going a while back
>>572451907And how do boons get acquired retard? It's basically just free stats they give you to make sure you dont build completely retarded shit with your money.
>>572452019>You obtain levels to upgrade skills and increase base stats>You can also buy items>The former doesn't existYou didn't even know levels existed and now you're coping hard.
I thought people in Seeker would not be that good but I consistently see enemy players denying creep soulsHad a game where they denied every single soul orb in 2 creep lanesWhat the fuck is going on?
A BOON
>>572452019It's the same things as levels, they just simplified it as money=XP same way they simplified last hitting by you get 60% of the cash by just being there or simplified shopping by having a shop on each lane...Your argument it basically just "it doesn't FEEL like a MOBA" when the entire game revolves around economy and map control... like a MOBA.
>>572452238>>572452394If boons are just levels why doesnt dota 2 or league of legends just remove experience and give you levels upon networth like deadlock? This game is just a hero shooter
>ITT third worlders with no experience with MOBAs try to figure out what constitutes a MOBAI'm suffering from insomnia and you retards aren't helping
>>572452513>"Oh, I guess Deadlock does have levels, it just doesn't have experience. My bad."Fixed your post for you.
>>572452513Let's do a thought experiment, hypothetical cases of me trying to explain Deadlock to different people.>Trying to explain Deadlock to an OverwatchfagYou see it's a hero shooter but basically the goal of the game is to destroy the enemy base while defending yours but you can't go there straight away you need to open up the way for your team's units which are called creeps which will weaken enemy structures by being near and you need to detroy those enemy structures in order also by killing creeps or players you gain money which you can use to buy items at your base or lane shops oh and there's a neutral boss that spawns at x min that [...]>Trying to explain Deadlock to a DotardIt's pretty much DotA with verticality and some movement techniques like sliding and walljumping. Everyone has guns but there's damage falloff, and you can use melee but that is only interesting if you build for it or in specific cases. To farm money and stats you can destroy boxes and statues around the map. [that pretty much covers 90% of what the guy has to know to start playing]
>>572419250Same energy
>>572453120It's not a level >>572453193You dont need to understand any of that. Follow build on auto buy. Kill people and creeps for money. Walk to shop when you have money. Fight on urn and then get boss to end the game.
Moba is a meaningless term.Deadlock is an ASSFAGGOTS.
Overwatch has more of a leveling system than deadlock cause you actually have to do things to level up your abilities. In deadlock you can literally afk in lane and unlock your abilities
>>572453854k
>>572453854Overwatch is gay and for faggots so your post is now invalid
>>572453615Preach it brother
Why did they make the Hidden King's theme mog the Archmother so hard
>>572455220he lives in a factory, he needed something going for him
>>572453572Build?Creeps?Money?Shop?Boss?
>>572444556I'm gonna miss Monke man when they do a visual rework of him...
>lane partner is shiv>lose automatically because shiv is not a hero till lvl 5 in both knives and dashhow did pros successfully psy-op yoshi into nerfing this F tier every patch
>>572456065he seems pretty good just needs some fine tuning extra details etc
>>572456256Just play safe then? Normally you're supposed to stop taking losing trades...but I agree Shiv needs some buffs.
>>572456256>3 t2 knives are a secure kill if you sneeze on them>lvl6 rage and executeinitiate?
shiv is genuinely the only reason why i play this game he is so fun (in4 someone tries to "expose" me i used a older ss i am way higher now thats why i censored it)
what the fuck are you supposed to do against a late game spirit victor this is clearly too much for my retarded seekerbrain to figure out
>>572457319Toxic bullets
>>572456925MikaelS posts on the chan???
>>572457319Inhibitor and silencer
>>572457319#1 spirit victor counter: silencer (if nobody on your team has this buy it even if you're not a m1gger, it only takes 1 bullet to trigger the -25% dmg)#2: crippling headshot or inhibitor (or both): big healing reduction, imo inhibitor better against victor, the less damage he does the less lifesteal he has, the less tanky he is. i see some ppl have this the wrong way around where they buy inhib against billy and crippling against victor, shouldn't it be the other way around? billy always has 50% resists minimum#3: if you're not a m1gger, buy curse against him. it's worth it ignore the damage penalty. besides that, any other antiheal that your team doesn't already have (decay, toxic bullets, spirit burn, healbane but if no one on your team has bought healbane when victor is on enemy team the game was over from the start)
>>572457472I hope not, we should be a respectable, aimbotter-free general.
>>572457771any active item is completely useless against victor because of his status resistance, curse lasts like 1.2 seconds
>>572457472MikaelS expert here.He doesn't like Shiv anymore.
>>572458316he doesn't like anything about the game anymorehe removed deadlock from his steam library recently
>mikaels comes back for 1 month>experiences the new urn>immediately goes on a 1 year hiatus again
>>572458512Probably one of the only good things about the new urn. Now if only Zerggy, Mast, Piggy, Lomein, Metro, Deathy, that one faggot with a furry Venator skin stopped playing the game Deadlock could finally start to heal.
>>572458882>lefaa not mentioned
>>572458995I definitely forgot a ton of other parasites, I just named the few I remembered off the top of my head.
>>572458882>furry Venator skin?
>>572456256As a Shiv enjoyer, lane doesn't start until rage meter is full.
>>572458882where's Joechuck?
>>572459238Don't remember his name, saw one of his dogshit takes popping up on my homepage and he had a fursona avatar + commissioned his fursona in a Venator skin in-game. Blocked the channel to not see it pop up again.
>>572459572Joeschmuck has disastrous opinions and spawned a ton of terrible Doorman players but he at least doesn't grift or throw his e-cred around to influence the direction of the game.
>>572459715How did Mast do that?
>>572459574Good, he's cheating. You should block all cheater channels.
>>572459773Inundating your channel with repurposed stream VODs as single matches that add nothing of value (but trying to pass it as groundbreaking build experimenting) counts as grifting.
>>572460097What? The videos on his channel arent vods how long ago have you watched him are you confusing him for someone else?
i got 5 eternus 6 accounts do people really buy accounts? i checked and supposedly they go for 300-800 dollars seems very retarded who is even buying these
>>572460190He was doing it during his Smite days before moving to Deadlock, I just assumed he was doing it again. Mea culpa then, still bottom of the barrel content but not as bad as the rest.
>>572460238Rusniggers waste half their monthly salary on accounts without VAC bans to cheat on CS2. I guess Deadlock will go the same way.
youir teammate sir
fuck is this
>>572461350the big charge-up aoe attack that curses you
>>572461350
>>572461350When you get hit by the patron's goybeam
>>572461504i wasnt even in their base dog
>>572462086first time playing?
>>572462175afraid to speak up?
>>572462247concession accepted
yoshi here, give me a list of items that needs to be>buffed>nerfed>reworked
patch when
>>572462607We already told you: anywhere between late August to early October.
>>572462578>all Active spirit items in the T3 section>all m1gger items int he T4 section>all melee items
>>572462793AUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>572462086Damage recap is bugged
>>572463000It's the opportunity to go play something else. Steam sale going on right now.
Is there any reason I shouldn't buy sprint boots/enduring speed on every hero?After almost 20 years of dota playing a moba with boots in it and NOT buying them feels very weird
>get some speed items>7.1>use your kit>speed drops to 0.0Is this normal? Why do gun faggots have an item to prevent this while spirit chads don't?
>>572463765some heroes are mobile enough already
>>572461135I was going to make fun of this person but my mvp rank is only slightly better
>solo 2 people>both teams eventually show up>i'm dealing heavy damage to at least 1 more>i have to peace out early because 10% and no cds>my team somehow dies all 5 while 3 of them surviveyeah i dunno what to do fucking pointless matchmaking
What's the point of Restorative Locket?Why does it still exist?
>>572464817it's like stick from dota but better
>>572464817stamina is op
>>572464817>3 stamina on demand>badand other tales from Seeker
>>572463879Stamina is better than sprint/move speed in every way
>Paradox goes 0/6 in 10 minutes>Mirage is tweaking on her in vc all game>Meanwhile my yamato does the same 0/6 in 10 minutes with me ping spamming her to be careful and she just dives tower over and over>Yamato starts hitting the "It's just a game bro" shtick>Paradox is concern trolling and telling the mirage his life must be shit and typing jajaajajajaj over and over>I inform the mirage that paradox was never going to take this game seriously because he's a spanish speaker (I have never had one spanish speaking person in my game that didn't do insanely psychotic shit)>The paradox calls me a "stupid white boy">Our warden starts calling me a racist because what I said had "implied racism">Mirage abandons but not before matching paradox's k/dThis game is an asylum for the mentally retarded
>>572465512You should've called the warden a jew
>>572465512and yet youre in the same rank cumskin
spirit shielding just seems better 99% of the time than restorative locket, i dont want to buy both because then i do no damage early game
>>572464619>he survived with 10%Let me guess, tankbusted?
>>572466128yeah sorry retard that's not gonna work on me I don't care about rank I just care about playing the game, I guess I must have struck some kind of nerve to make you that mad though.
>>572464817Must buy against Doorman. Great in nearly all other situations.
>>572465139I'm Oracle actually
>>572465512You can click "extra competitive" in the game settings. It doesn't do anything, but you can click it.
>>572422820but he's part of the majority.why would the game be balanced for eternus shitters
>>572467993Eternus players can just play around and counter whatever they think is op, they're good at the game, right?
>>572465512Are sudacas the NA version of Russians?
>>572468513Brazilians are the Russians of NAPeruvians are the Russians of Latam (old stigma from when they had the shittiest internet in the region back when online games were becoming a thing in the early 2000's)
>>572468717Peruvians eat guinea pigs. I don't trust 'em.
>>572463351https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIO1g97S2x8Please refer to this video
deadtards??EXPLAIN????
>>572461135most common MVP rank 12/12 players should be put into low prio by default.
>>572469172erm its a heckin playtest little chuddie!
>>572469818being under 50% winrate should put you into a separate queuelike fuck how are you not stuck at initiate if you're not getting better
>>572469172Is he talking about LoL, DotA, R6S, Apex Legends, CoD, Dead By Daylight or Deadlock?
>Haven't played in two weeks due to IRL issues + burnout>Hey why don't I get one game in so my ascendant rank doesn't decay>Lock in victor because I want something simple and braindead>Play like a retard the entire time>Still win just because I can stat check the entire enemy team with my 3+ livesIf you main this hero you're like 3 ranks boosted from where you belongI'm not even being mean its just absurd.This was the enemy comp so you can't even blame it on bad matchmaking giving scuffed team comps.
>>572470481When you play a new hero it gives you a lower rank, of course you can niggerstomp with Victor.
This general will not survive the summer break...
>>572470983YOU WERE SAYING NIGGERMind you most of these games were before they changed his max ult
WE HAVE YOU NOW
La la la la la la I love playing Deadlock and having fun during laning phase! I sure hope my braindead subhuman nigger ape faggot worm of a teammate doesn't turbofeed Mina/Victor/Haze/Seven/Shiv and makes the game unplayable!
I haven't played for a week and didn't read the threadI returned to the game and every Drifter I meet is spirit drifter with escalating exposureWhat happened? Some meme streamer bullshit or what?
>>572470256Dead by Daylight is a balanced game with a friendly community that enjoys the game at every step of the way. Reports of the game being survivor or killer sided have been largely exaggerated.
>>572435046Because the devs are fucking retarded and don't know how to balance at all. Characters like Shiv, Pocket, Celeste, Apollo, Celeste, and Wraith remain op and annoying to play against at all points of the game.
>>572472216Drifter is a feast or famine hero in a meta where other m1ggers can instawin faster and with more ease, so people just build spirit and spam his 2 for DoT rape
>>572435046>murderedHer winrate barely changed, she's still a S+ tier at the top of the charts
>>572472216ERM le spirit drifter is free elo!>Goes 0/10 because dispel magic renders you a ult botWhat I'm more confused about is the spirit geist builds, that has to be purposeful geist downplaying by making her most popular builds dogshit
>>572472254>still trying to push sheev is le op narrative when the character barely inches toward 50% winrate in competitive matches played by OTPs
>>572450793He's obnoxious to play against and he is genuinely overpowered outside of the urn being the most important thing in the game. Too tanky, too mobile, too much damage, knife bleed is obnoxious.>>572444032You're playing Wraith who is so incredibly OP anyone can do well with her. I hate having to play against Wraith because she is just so easy.
>>572471534Does she slaps her enemies with her monster tits?
>>572458503>>572458512For good reason, have you played the game lately? It's awful.
nice matchmaking yoshi very nice very balanced very good update the game already you fucking nigger
>>572472993retard
>>572464817It's still really good but it isn't Dispel Magic.
>>572473059kill yourself nigger
>these wait timesthe game is dead, no update is gonna save this
>>572472993>keeps getting terrible matches>doesn't have any fun>keeps playing>also asks for the update>update that is still months awayWhy do you do this to yourself?
>tombstone>lvl 5 wall*refresher*>tombstone >lvl 5 wall*echo shard*>lvl 5 wallenjoy the urn/mid fight kiddo
>>572472993>team has pocket, holliday, and mina>winsno surprise there
>>572472216Drifter is the worst kit in the gameisolation specialist in a game with no dedicated jungle, no solo lanes, every major objective is teamfights. Waves are the most prio and they spawn every 20-30 seconds meaning you have like 15 seconds in between waves to maybe catch someone alone. Even if you match against absolutely retards and get mega fed your stacks are equal to 1(uno)[solo] gun item. No matter how many number buffs he gets as long as his kit works like this he will be suck
yoshi hasnt been online on discord in like 2 weeks there's no one working on the game rn
>>572473449He will be OP in the jungle rework... trvst...
>>572473449He used to be OP as fuck before the KOTH urn changes.Infinite stacking/scaling stuff should be entirely removed though.
>>572473186bcs i still have fun from time to time but drafts like these cannot be real in which world is that okay it wasn't this bad before either e6 2 purple change is fucking up the matchmaking or they just changed it
>>572473601>i still have fun from time to timeI believe the colloquial expression is "chasing the dragon".
>>572473601Its a worthy sacrifice to banish the one tricks to asc
Reminder: Objective damage is a useless stat that only redditors value because they don't have mechanical skills.This is a teamfight murder game first, macro second.
>>572473494valve apparently just lets people jump around on internal projects as they pleaseso it's actually possible that they all decided the players are faggots and just left the team
>>572474606>mechanical skills.>mobalamayo
>>572474725thats a lie that gabe has told for over 20 years, tyer mcvicker exposed it alreadysenior valve crew (like 10 people) decides what the devmonkeys (rest of the 300 devs) work on, no one else decides
>>572445384there already is a censor. why would you remove it if you didn't want to see the words?
>>572475439but they can still say it even if i cant see it?
>>572475541yes. Valve doesn't need your advertiser money.
Is Arcane secretly a 3200 item?
>>572477098No its mad overrated
>>572475541oh gosh golly, imagine if someone could THINK and call you a niggerniggerfaggotnigger in his mind??1!without shame and completely unpunished!how terrifying
>"How do you have a lower respawn than me?">"i'm initiate bro"get me out of seeker hell holy fuckI just had a game full of obscurus and initiates and I couldnt turn the tide because I was playing support
>>572479190>doesn't curse their carry>wonders why he can't win as support
>>572445384>valve playing 4d chess to out the racists on their gamesheh
Billy on Mo or Mo on Billy?
>>572480194There are no carries at this low level
TODAY IS THE DAYCOPIUM
>>572482985the secret gray talon rework#67
>>572482771>losing to people who aren't carrying
I lost this game, I wonder why
>>572482985what's the relevance of this? that they finally updated the ptr?
>>572482985Metros title is patch today or uninstallHes trying to tell us. Its today. Im going all in on the polymarket
>>572483410because you had bad heroes like victor and rem on your team
>WHERE'S THE PATCH YOSHI>WTF YOSHI UPDATE????>patch comes out>FUCK YOU YOSHI WHY>NEVER PLAYING THIS SHIT AGAIN>2 weeks pass>WHERE'S THE PATCH YOSHI
>Be losing game>The enemy Haze greeds a tower dive and dies like a retard>Haze rage quits>WinYou love to see it
>>572483667
>>572484043imagine feeding a spirit dwiftashitlow no doubt
>>572482693>he didn't just push waves and do objectives non-stop Your not a real miragecel
Dispelling sticky bomb should make it explode immediately but for 50% damage
>>572483667people wouldnt complain about every patch if every patch didn't buff a really annoying hero into relevance in the most gamebreaking ways possible but we're 3 for 3 so far this year (graves, holliday, victor)
counterspelling sticky bomb should work like rebuttal - bebop stuns and explodes
>>57248420219m game
rebuttal should give your parry a special animation like counterspell does because knowing if the enemy has rebuttal is actually important unlike knowing that the reason your spell didn't work was because they had counterspell
Whats a good mirage build?
>>572484932mystic regen, ricochet, echoshard
>>572484610>knowing if the enemy has rebuttal is actually importantyou can literally look at all enemy items and skill levels at any time during the match>b-but what if I forgetthat you're gay and ugly?
>>572485126>you can literally look at all enemy items and skill levels at any time during the matchso why does counterspell get a special animation?
>wields a rapier>his melee is a backhand and a kickwhat the fuck is apollo's problem?
>>572485270are you implying rebuttal doesn't?
>>572485486it doesn't unless they added it yesterday
>>572485619not sure if trolling or stupid
>>572485774there is no special animation for rebuttal unless you're using """qol""" mods so I guess you're both trolling and being stupid as you think your cheats are baseline
>>572485904>y-you're a cheater!!!you really are daft aren't you
We can have a fat patch drop any day now and there's been zero leaks, crazy
>>572486039show me how rebuttal changes the animation
>>572484932Last 2 games from the top mirage in eu rn
>>572486046The Cheshire cat + Ripper leaks were fake so we have fuck all knowledge for what's comingIn that sense, its impressive. TOTAL LEAKER DEATH
daily yoshi nigger death threat post: I believe yoshi should be shot in the back of the head and thrown into a mass grave with the rest of his family like the sand nigger he is
>>572486046>deadtards are calling september "any day now"
>>572486102>rebuttal doesn't have a unique animation>well it just doesn't, okay?you know what the burden of proof is, right?
>>572485486Rebuttal doesn't give parries a special animation, what the fuck are you on about?
>>572486046>any day nowBro it's two months away
street brawl is much easier when you learn to tell what build the matchmaking/"rng" wants to force out of you
>>572486506I accept your concession
>>572486506this how yuritroons spend their day btw, erm r/deadbeadrooms moment
Dead game
>>572486494September is the most realistic date since valve time + each update is bigger than the last in scope.
>>572485774>>572486039>>572486506LOVE Silver
>>572486039stinky
>>572484162There is no counter idk45 sec cd on dispel is too much
>play brool>steamroll win>that was too fast>play another>steamroll loss>wtf were those items>play another>steamroll win>WHY DID YOU PUSH THE WALKER IT WAS GETTING FUUUUUN>play another>steamroll loss>fuck shiv fuck bebop fuck dynamo fuck>play anotherjesus christ, I remember someone calling normal mode a slot machine, but this is far worseeven if you win it still feels like you got blueballed
Sisters! Its up!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL5GvWEFZuA
>>572487214>pushing the troon headcanonand that's a report for terrorism
>>572487112welcome to valve matchmakingtf2 has the same fucking shit because they removed quickplay, which worked perfectly fine, for a dogshit queue system with autobalance
>>572484412>>572483667Every patch has been even worse than the March 6 patch somehow. The last batch of heroes all should be removed and reworked except maybe Venator and Rem.
>>572487112valve matchmaking is nigger dice roll, no such thing as skill based matchmaking. im pretty sure its all tuned to fuck with people as much as possible and not based on actual balanced elo
valve is based as fuck it would take them 1 day or less to implement an optional profanity filter but they choose not to so that trannies seethe
>>572490280i have valvedrone fatigue
>>572490280>an optional profanity filterthere's a steamwide customizable profanity filter that's on by default and affects every valve gameyou have to go out of your way to disable it
>>572490112It's been EOMM since like 2012, skill based matchmaking basically does not exist anymore.
so 3 weeks since the last balance patch and lots of experimental updates on weekdayif we get a balance patch within the next two weeks it'll be until August for the content
next update is going to be neatoand the update after that is cool beansmmm beans
>>572490465does this work in deadlock? how come so many people complain about people saying slurs then
>>572491223Me being forced to counterbuild every game but I just wanna buy Trophy Collector
>>572491354>does this work in deadlock?it works in all valve games i'm pretty sure>how come so many people complain about people saying slurs thenbecause so many people are brown and/or retarded
>>572486293why is siphon bullets good on a pistol hero
>>572491223the type of shit ivy says when she echo shard ass pounds you to death"just dodge :^)"
>>572491648Because Mirage already has obnoxiously good sustain, stealing enemy HP makes him even more obnoxiously tanky.
I love beating the shit out of overly proud Yamatos that think they're carrying the game
PATCH ALERT
>>572491354they turn it off because they like saying slurs but can't stand it directed at them
>>572491354>"how come retards are retarded">disable filters because you're a strong independent whoman>OH NO SLURS>attentionwhore on xitter about how your wife's boyfriend's tranny xirfriend of color is being repressed by proxy in this here videogame
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003
>- King of the Hill objective has been rethemed and renamed to "Unstable Rift">- Unstable Rift no longer requires an Urn delivery to trigger the start of the event. It now has a variable start time of +/- 1 minute. There is a global announcement 25s before it spawns. 60s before that there is also an in-world only visual effect to let you know which lane it'll randomly spawn in.THEY DID IT AGAIN
>>572491941>>572492031>>572492151IVE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF THIS FRIGGIN BULLSHIT
>- Urn running is now its own objective. Spawns on either end of the map (where the previous neutral pickup locations were), and gets delivered to the opposite end. Spawns at 10/15/20/25/etc.
>>572492508can we dunk the urn again now?
>Actual excel spreadsheetI dunno why its just funny to me
>>572492637they're making it easier for "pros" to make videos
>>572492508>Urn cannot be manually dropped. It gets dropped when you get hit with a light or heavy melee, are stunned or are killed.lmfao if you pick up the urn you have to hard commit to it now get ready for people to throw
i only brawltake that moba shit somewhere else
>- Urn cannot be manually dropped. It gets dropped when you get hit with a light or heavy melee, are stunned or are killed. It stays where it drops and does not walk back home.so a victor can just kill himself with aura and keep the urn in their base fountain forever lol
>Rejuv buff duration reduced from 4 minutes to 3finally the other team isn't going to jerk off in their jungle after taking mid
The new updated finally added gay sex?!
>- Shiv: Slice and Dice now deals +25 light melee damage (75 total) instead of 60 spirit damage- Shiv: Slice and Dice changed from -6% Spirit Resist to +4% Damage AmpWhat the fuckIs silce and dice a proper melee ability now or some shit
>>572492031uhm this isnt a jungle rework?
>>572492031>>572486046Why do we let random anons have the monkey paw now?
>- Cursed Relic: Damage Penalty increased from -10% to -14%AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SHIV DESTROYED BEYOND REPAIR LOL
new forced teamfight seems dogshit......the best games i've had are ones where both teams just ignored the urn but now the game forces you to do the urn fight
>Urn is now louder when it talks and is easier to hear by nearby enemiesfuck off
>>572493161Kek the random Sheev anon building melee was a visionary apparently.
>- Urn runner is no longer revealed and is not disarmed or silenced (going through a doorway or mirage teleport still drops it)>- Urn cannot be manually dropped. It gets dropped when you get hit with a light or heavy melee, are stunned or are killed. It stays where it drops and does not walk back home.Take urn to spawn, unstick to trap it in your fountain
>>572492031>NO SILVER CHANGESNO SILVER CHANGES>NO SILVER CHANGESNO SILVER CHANGES>NO SILVER CHANGESNO SILVER CHANGESFUCK YOU YOSHIT
>>572493403Look at that fat orb of fluff
>>572493471Just be grateful they didn't nerf her more E6 players still bitch about her
>>572493474if you look closely the little helpers dance with more intensity when rem dies
Cool, when's the next patch?
>>572493604Works them to the bone he does
Is it time?
>>572493558they literally just need to give her a reload on ulti attacks
>- Ivy: Entangling Thorns spirit scaling increased from 0.45 to 0.55>- Ivy: Kudzu Connection Replicated Healing per boon scale increased from +0.5 to +0.85>- Ivy: Air Drop cooldown reduction when used on allies increased from -25% to -30%are we balanced yet ivybros
>>572493906Ivy didn't need buffsI'm so confusedShe's already a solid pick
>>572493001>L O L; low mmr comeback buff I geuss?
>warp riftsevery road leads to heroes of the storm
HUGE MINA BUFFSHUGE
>>572493978Its a yamato situation where she is strong but no one plays her (except for scalies) so she will keep getting buffs until more than 5 people pick her.
>>572494143I thought the same thing as I read it, reminds me of that map with the zerglings
>>572494279>Single patch where she wasn't S+++ tier brokenWelp it was good while it lasted.
>Kelvin untouched again
>>572494279>Rake got buffed despite still being broken compared to how weak she is meta wiseWelp, back to being oppressively overpowered!
>rift troopers are black as infernus' skinwhat did icefrog mean by this
>>572494279fucking yoshit hotpoo gigafaggots WHY
>>572419250Der Judemann
>>572492580Sounds like it, honestly optimistic about this, idk how I feel abiut the variable rift timer but now we have 2 objectives in midgame
>>572494473Sorry bro all the (((pro))) niggers don't pick him (waiting for bigger money value tournaments to abuse him) he's le weak!He only has one of best HP pools in the gameHe only has one of the best healing tools in the gameHe only has the most braindead but effective mobility ability in the game
>>572494473He's in a good place and perfectly balanced :^)
>>572492031holy fuck these character changes dont make any fucking sense
>doorman only gets a door nerfwhat did yofraud mean by this?
>>572494830He thinks Joe chuck builds are to strong and sees nothing else wrong with him unironically.
>>572494521Because she's been pretty terrible last patchPros are still thinking of old mina when they put her in mid teirs, she's almost apollo level statistics
>>572494761Mina's changes are literally "Let's buff EVERYTHING">>572494830That Walkermen are fags and ruin utility man for the rest.
- Seven: Lightning Ball charge delay reduced from 7s to 6s- Seven: Storm Cloud time to expand increased from 1.5s to 3.5s- Seven: Storm Cloud damage interval increased from 0.25s to 0.3s (DPS unchanged)- Seven: Storm Cloud T2 now also increases Initial Radius by +5mSEVEN BOOFED
>>572491354
>>572418616>- Doorman: Doorway cooldown increased from 40s to 45sYoshi just can't help himself
SELL YOUR SPIRIT SHIV STOCKS RIGHT FUCKING NOWWE ARE BACK TO GUN SHIV
>- Seven: Lightning Ball charge delay reduced from 7s to 6s>- Seven: Storm Cloud time to expand increased from 1.5s to 3.5s>- Seven: Storm Cloud damage interval increased from 0.25s to 0.3s (DPS unchanged)>- Seven: Storm Cloud T2 now also increases Initial Radius by +5mHoly shit reasonable Seven changes that aren't nerfing his fucking gun?
>>572493886My QSR+surge of power build would actually go crazy
>>572494143I'm happy that that game's ideas get to live on through Deadlock. When they changed healing troopers from heal wave to dropping "regen orbs" I giggled. Now if only I could get my Abathur function. Minionmaxxing Rem is just not the same...>>572494830Doornigger was already kneecapped by the no-close-door-immediately nerf, what more do you want
>>572494830bro he he took another 2 hundreths of a scaling off pocket gun which mean instead of 100+ damage per shot he will.... well... he'll still do that but its lower now!
>Shiv raped for no reasonHuh
>rem nerfs
>Warden: Bullet damage per boon reduced from 0.34 to 0.28Remember how everyone joked about 0.001% nerfs to his gun?Now I'm kinda concerned.
>>572495206>Now if only I could get my Abathur function.Stay tuned for the Graves rework.
>Pocket has the best escape and a press 4 to win teamfight button what do we do now?>nerf gun lolGENIUS
>>572492031Why won't they give Apollo his Riposte back? He was pretty fun to play before. They can adjust the speed on his triple strike and damage scaling.
>>572495504His gun was fucking retarded strong but it's not like they nerfed it in a meaningful way
>>572492031>Guardian bounty reduced from 1500 to 1250>Walker bounty reduced from 4000 to 3500I LOVE MACRO NOT MATTERING
>Viscous splatter nerfed (slightly)>Splatter is still the only ability you're allowed to build forOk
>>572495550>Why won't they give Apollo his Riposte back?because this is not overwatch?
>>572495671You have a free eshift sorry nigger that you can cost on other peopleThe rest of his kit can't ever be good when he has that sorry
>holliday barely touched>pocket getting a "just the wind" nerf>seven gets buffed>doorman barely touched>GT barely touched>nothing burger drifter buffsabysmal patch holy fuck make these niggers play their own game for once
>>572495259>no reasonpeople do not build melee resist like they build spirit resisthe rapes even more now
>>572495671Sorry he raped to many pro players so now he must get nerfed every once in a while
so do we have new "urn" and old urn at the same time?what the fuck were those changes for then
>boons/unlocks now take more souls to unlock>soul bounties drastically reduced across the board>ult cooldowns (generally most impactful teamfight abilities) nerfed across the board as welldoesn't this mean games will go way fucking slower now? someone please correct me if i'm wrong here
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003>minor balance patch instead of a major update>>572492031
>>572495765oh boy a free "sit there and wait to die" button!!
>Vindicta buffedthe second i see her and Talon i'm switching lanes
Where are the graves nerfs?
>>572495415Honestly good, fuck Warden.
BEHEAD ALL MINA PLAYERS
>>572495950every goonigger worth their shit build this these days. quit being retarded
>>572495885one is aoe sloopthe other is juggernaut enjoyer kino
>>572495885Now you get to get wiped at the rift because one guy is running urn and another guy split pushing, enjoy
>>572495765Why don't they apply this to other heroes way more broken than Viscous
>all these urn changes in the past few months just to go back to how it was originallybravo yoshiwhy is he like this?
i was promised a jungle rework 3,000 years ago.
>>572495935yes pro games were ending in like 20 minutes so they decided to slow down the lane.
>>572496008*schlick schlick schlock* You're getting raked.
>>572495935Yoshi read our thread about short games being less epic>>572495937This confirms the big patch is not close
>>572495415He is so much more annoying as a spirit nigger and I am gonna dread seeing it.>slowing hex>cage>echo shard>cage again
>>572495935they recently changed it to leveling faster, now they're reverting the change. they must not have liked the game pacing. I agree the game pacing felt off.
>>572496162its still different than it was originally and they workshopped a second objective out of their experimentsnevermind that they just copied heroes of the storm and a million people probably suggested it beforehand
>>572496292US AGAINST THE WORLD>spins in a 360>entire team now has lightning scroll procced on them
>Doorman: Doorway cooldown increased from 40s to 45sWHY!?!?! I MISS WHEN DOORMAN WAS SOME OBSCURE REDDITNIGGERMAN Ever since he saw "pro" play he's received nothing but nerfs I hate it.
>>572493824ngl I glanced at the thumbnail and though she was taking a massive shit.
>Hovering an item in the shop now shows you a preview for your investment barsBIG
What the fuck does Shiv even build now
>can fly the urn againWE ARE SO BACK
>>572496413he deserves more. fuck you and fuck your faggot theatre kid jerma look alike character
>>572496413erm this character is a SUPPORTstop getting KILLS with a SUPPORT characterwe will be nerfing doorman until he is literally uselessYou're allowed to build him as gun though, he'll do a billion damage per shotfucking dumb gunigger yoshi
why did yoshi gigabuff shiv's ult
>>572496291>This confirms the big patch is not closebingo (bango wahoo-o). oh well.
>buffing holiday and celestesoloQ Urning time.
>- Ivy: Entangling Thorns spirit scaling increased from 0.45 to 0.55>- Ivy: Kudzu Connection Replicated Healing per boon scale increased from +0.5 to +0.85>- Ivy: Air Drop cooldown reduction when used on allies increased from -25% to -30%Why did they buff Ivy even more? She was so strong already.
WHO ASKED FOR MINA BUFFS?WHO ASKED FOR VINDICTA BUFFS?WHO ASKED FOR SHIV TO BE GIGA RAPED?I asked for Billy nerfs
>>572496557>range nerfed to 12mhe lost an escape
>>572496550> jerma look alike character>"IF I WERE TO PUT YOU IN THE BARONESS HOTEL-"
>>572493558shitver is op in every rankcope, seethe
>>572496553>erm this character is a SUPPORT stop getting KILLS with a SUPPORT characterMeanwhile Ivy gets to be a support and do a gorillion damage either gun OR spirit.GOD, Yoshi is such a dumb NIGGER
>>572496594there were people in the previous thread asking for vindicta buffs
Slice and Dice cant heal you anymore because melee has no proper lifesteal lol, you HAVE to build shiv as gun now LMAO
>>572496567they are buffing her so they have an excuse to lobotomize her later this happened already>>572496663the t1 upgrade makes it go back to the same range it had
>>572495367I think something is bugged, tag along does not seem to heal at all now.
>>572496936AIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT JUST PRESS 2 AND AUTOWIN A FIGHT HELPPPPPPP HELPPPPPP
>Urn is now louderblow my head smoove off
gonna be a lot of shiv wipes at the end of laning phase now
i can't have an opinion on this patch until my favourite streamer makes a video on it
>>572496793I wanted a rework, her current state she's cancerous if strong.
>made dash jump window biggerit's coming, open beta soon
>shiv is just a worse calico now
>massive paige buffsHow we looking, Paigebros?
>>572496291>This confirms the big patch is not closeWere there any delusional retards that thought otherwise? The people saying "any day now" or "weeks away" weren't baiting?
Fucking WHY
>>572497549dash jump buffs are based because IADs are gay
>>572492151I actually like that Urn was split off as the money dunk again but I still don't think KotH fits into Deadlock. Midboss can be the only full teamfight objective. Objectives should be more interactive for all players to secure. People are going to fight over them anyways so each one should feel unique in scale, importance, and mechanics. Some low hanging fruit>Aim objective>Movement objective>Melee objective (Sinners Sacrifice)>Lane skirmish objective [This aspect of the current KotH is good]>Teamfight objective (Midboss)>Push/Stall objective>Kill/Death objective>Roaming objective>Hidden objectiveand don't let ones functions bleed over into another because it dilutes identity
>>572497549They're still fucking around with urn/side objectives. We aren't getting open beta or a content update any time soon
>>572492031>Mo and Krill bonus health increasedThis faggot is going to be so cancer to kill late game in my shitter lobbies
>>572497595They gave Calico's 1 a purpose even with its damage gutted at least, Shiv's knives are a dead ability now.
>>572497690because you're not revealed on the map anymore? its right there i the patch notes
>>572497860Ok but I hate his voice
>>572497903stop being antisemetic
>unstable rift musicKINO
>more doorman nerfsBoy I am so glad Yoshi just had to give Doorman the spirit scaling door range!I'm so glad that he's been getting nerfed every patch since they decided to make his bells base damage 250!None of this would be happening had they just left Doorman alone, he was sitting at a 48% Win Rate across all ranks before they made these changes to his kit back in march. Fucking retards.
>>572497903PICK ME UP THIS INSTANT!
>>572497903I'M FULL OF SOULS HERE PEOPLE!
>>572497903Y-you do have a plan, right?
I think valve should add a shrine maiden to deadlock!
>>572498085most issues with the game nowadays can be traced to the march 6th patch. worst patch in the history of this game
>People don't like that the koth urn forces aoe slop team fights that have too large an impact on the game>Make them mandatory and even more impactful
>>572497595? He has dmg defferal
>>572497903
you ready /dlg/?https://x.com/i/status/2072014039404720481
>>572497717I think rift is actually no longer a full teamfight objWith urn overlap now rift might be a 3v3 or 4v4 skirmish
Is it worth reinstalling for this patch?
>>572497903One celestial event, and PEOPLE LOSE THEIR MINDS
>>572498661No.
>>572498661If you uninstalled I doubt it is for you.
THEY ARE STEALING MY IDEAS FROM THIS VERY GENERAL>thread at the start of the year>post about a possible capturable neutral golem on the bridge>yoshitard decides to add a full squad of neutrals insteadARE YOU READING THIS YOU GREEN FAGGOTTONGUE MY ANUS
>>572498570>still has Bridge geometry They should make it like a different dimension where the bridge disappears for the duration of the event and there is just some cover that actually makes sense for koth
Yoshi if you're here, please add skimpy swimsuits for Abrams, Lash and Venator. Thanks! :)
THEY REMOVED THE ESCAPE VENT YOU USE AFTER DROPPING HELPERS TO STEAL DOUBLE SINNERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>572498828the golem should be named shelly
>Victor is online sooner because of boon changes>Venator gets his melee damage way faster because of boon changesThis is an acceptable trade Yoshi, thank you.
>>572499151I don't like that they're just straight up deleting vents instead of moving them around
MOVEMENT NERFS ARE ANTI TRANS FUCK YOU YOSHI>>572499475>>572499151
WHY IS THE DOORMAN USING ABILITIES STILL? LITERALLY WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?
>>572499247VictorGODS keep winning
>>572499247The fact victor was left untouched is insane to me, these devs are smoking something
>game is even more snowbally
>>572499775I havent seen him much in pro play lately, is there a counter im unaware of?
So you don't get any buffs from the rift, just extra troopers?
>>572499671they nerfed/reworked dispel magic because people were using it properly
>mina buffed>celeste buffed>paige buffedwow, so they're just going to keep buffing the tranny characters no matter how good they are already. At least we know what their balancing philosophy will be for this game's entire duration.
Did anyone elses performance get better this patch?
>>572499876I think its because Billy overshadowed him + Abrams is a lot more soul effective for a tank but its still retarded since he's omega busted.You have to be perma on his ass 24/7 early/mid game or he just emerges from the jungle with a 10+ k soul advantage and solo wins 1 v 4 team fights
Rend feels so fucking good to use now, is eded tu bloo back?
I dont know how I feel about the rift.I like that they reverted urn back to normal but the rift feels like it's mandatory.gives you lots of souls AND it spawns beefy troopers.my first game with it we wiped the floor with their side walkers super early because they just ignored it and treated it like a typical urn
>>572499087Based
>annihilated shiv's alt movement and dash damage>on a 45% wr character>seven buffed>the 60% wr character
This patch sucks. I'm comming slurs and typing them until I speedrun low prio queue to then uninstall.
>the feedback showed lots of players didn't like the urn aoe slop fights so we made the aoe slop fight mandatory and buffed it for the winning team :)
>>572500252they REALLY fucking hate shiv lmaodo you think yoshi wishes he could just scrap him
>>572500252Seven is just too honest
>>572499775I think he's unironicly fine right now, just cancer to play against but I doubt there's a way to have him be viable and not cancer.
>>572500395>>572500252why are we pretending that shiv is not giga buffed now, he needs a hotfix nerf asap
>>572500654he has a 53% wr in e6 lobbies this week nigga nobody is buying the downplay anymore
>>572496008+0.15 DAMAGE WE'RE SO BACK
>just ran the urn 3 consecutive times uncontested because nobody on the enemy team can see when I have itThis is DUMB
>gotta go fast urn is back>paradox buffsI fucking won
>>572501134I don't respect any pub stats with how bad you guys are at the game.
im struggling to get games even in shitlowFUUUUUUUU
>>572498570jesus they're tanky
>>572501361the pros are saving him (and kelvin) for a higher money match but I can guarantee you he is a rapist in pro play too
URRRRRRR I HAVE AN IDEA GABEWHY DONT WE BUFF MINADUUUUUUUUUUUUUH DOY DUHHHHHHH
What the fuck are they doing with the game?This game turning into an objective slopNext thing they are gonna do is add captcha every 5 minutes so you can cast your spells
>>572501683Fair enough he does seem strong and I'm sure he's even stronger in competent hands.
>>572501883the problem with the game before was that everyone was just farming forever
>2031>deadlock still in alpha>5 minutes into the game>look at my team>rem is delivering the urn>doorman is contesting the enemy urn delivery (there are now 4 urns that spawn every 20 seconds at random points on the map)>abhrams is playing the chess minigame against enemy drifter>wraith fighting the mini-mid-mid boss>seven is doing a slide puzzle that unlocks backdoor protection for the enemy walker>graves is afk jungling
>no graves buffssick of this nigger dev team
>people in shitlow are barely doing urn aoe slop objective>"hmmmmm, let's add more objectives"bravo Yoshi, bravo
Did you rike it?
lowkey want to play a match with the new objectives but i have to work in 20 minutes ughhh
>>572502557And this is a good thing
so generally we earn more souls with all that second urn mode?also won't new/old urn favor speedy characters even more than it used to now that it can be used with skills and you aren't visible on map? I can just go through base with the urn and nobody will see or hear me unless faggot urn screams across the map
still waiting for that payload objective yoshit
>>572503293Idk for sure, urn is only souls for the runner now, the rift is the same as the old urn if you count the deposit soulsDoesn't seem like its much of an add
Every unfun hero to play against got buffed heheplease enjoyalso we REFUSE to buff knock down sorry sweetie
>Wakeup>Mina buff's
>>572497903I'M JUST SITTING HERE!
>>572494279>mina isn't obnoxiously OP for one patch>must buff her immediatelythis game's balance is so ass, man
>lets add a new mechanic that you can't deny>you're forced to brawl no matter whatWow it's like they took what everyone hated about old urn and made it permanent. You could just tell yoshi thought the KotH mechanic was the best thing he ever did and didn't want to get rid of it.
>>572495259>noo I can't do my gay shotgun movement tech as easily
Every patch has made the game worse since march. Did they change the dev team? I'm serious
>spirit talon nerfs:(>gun talon left with a slap on the wristguess i'm learning to hold m1 like driftertroons now
>>572504129h1b wonjeet means victory
>>572495671>goo fist sucks and does no damage>goo ball sucks and does no damage and you can't rape people with repeated stuns from it anymore>cube is good>put all the power in splatter, his least interesting abilitythis game's balance and design gets worse every single patch, I swear
You can identify this particular schizo because he always uses the date to identify the patch he doesnt like
>>572496691jerma isn't funny
>rift forces your team to communicate where it's spawning or you get raped and loseindirect tranny nerf because they do not use mics
>>572504461TRUKE
Every patch has made the game better since march. How do the devs do it? I'm serious
>>572503761>counterspell indom vindictajust buy 3 knockdowns and coordinate them lmao
>>572504461He use to be cool. Then when he was forced to say trans right by his community, I noticed when he would stream he was high on something. Probably to disassociate with this community after being forced to be a cuck.
>type nigger once in chat>amerigolems go insane because they're trained from birth to worship them lmfao this game is truly wonderful thank you yoshi
>>572504734Most of his fanbase became trannies after the among us memes about him, for some reason. Current Jerma is unrecognizable compared to the TF2 YouTube days
>>572499775>>572500028>>572500072>>572500384The devs have not made a single good patch since the March 6 changes, literally every single one has made the game worse.>>572504734I cannot recall ever once seeing a clip or video from Jerma that made me laugh.
For anyone phantom+, how is the new patch?
>>572505028I cannot recall ever once seeing a clip or video from Jerma.
>>572504341Except tons of people have been saying the major balance change on march fucked with the meta super hard and the urn changes just made shit even worse.
>>572450315Kelvin's ult doesnt need nerfing. It needs to be changed fundamentally. remove the impenetrable barrier and make the area bea highly debilitating aoe
I will anally rape Gaben and Yoshi
>>572496691I've never seen more than like 10 seconds of anything from this guy's stream, I've never seen anything funny from him, or heard any funny quotes, or had it explained why or how he's funny or interesting, and he's fucking irrelevant to everyone but his incredibly vocal reddit troon?? audience who are probably all fucking brown on account of their tendency to say "WHOA THAT CHARACTER IS JERMA HAHAHHA" for entirely random fucking white guys, like the phenomenon of every cracka ahh with glasses on the face of the earth being Harry Potter to browns. As a white person without autism induced face blindess, no, he's not the fucking Scout and no he's not the fucking Doorman either. I never want to see this faggot again.>But he pioneered so many crazy streaming things!1. who cares2. I bet Ice Poseidon did more
>>572492031>Urn is now louder when it talksurnhaterfag is gonna be killing himself kek
>>572496458i wish she was
>>572505249Yeah most people who are any good at this game and actually care about it know that the March 6th patch was truly the beginning of the end.
>>572505574holy melty
>>572503293Everyone ends up with an absurd amount of souls, they're definitely gonna cut both objective souls down by a lot in a few days
The objective changes seemed good to me, maybe. But the hero changes are incredibly retarded. Whoever handles those needs to be taken outback and shot.
>brand new abrams>Silver that DCd 3 times before giving up>0/11 bebopWhy the fuck do I keep getting the dogshit teamates?
>>572492031>no Silver buffsHere's to 3 more weeks of 40% winrate
>>572502626The rift is a Graves buff, also a mcginnis buffIf you are behind for the 12 troopers and you have heroic aura it is a massive multiplier, theoretically with a freeze you could have 20 troopers(12 rift , 8 reg from 2 waves)
Soul Urn needs a global sound or something when it's deposited now because people are just stealing it left and right
>>572505928>Buffing Mina>Leaving Victor how he is>Nerfing Warden's gun even more while leaving his shield and ult mediocre at best>Pocket effectively untouched since his cloak is still obnoxious>Paige buffs>fucking CELESTE BUFFS
>>572505497You think that's bad?
>>572506239How did you manage to get 2026 assists in all of these?
>572505728>572498085>572489089>572498336>572504129>572504692>572505028>572505249>572505728 All me btw
>>572506239average "silver is le bad" poster btw
>>572506376Anon....
>>572506150>Buffing Minato go in line with the general zeitgeist of the pacing change in tandem with the fact she has been gutted, nerfed or somehow fucked every single fucking patchit's about fucking time, throwing Mina a fucking crumb literally just a victim of influencer faggot word of mouthstretching her supposed OMGGGGG SO OPPRESSIVE SO EVIL SO BROKEN relevance all the way to the fucking summer solstice of our lord circa two thousand years plus ten years plus one decade then plus six AFTER the death of Santi Christo is truly a derangement syndromefucking faggot ass MDS sufferers ALWAYS crying
>>572506560You mean he actually plays her?
>>572506376he's a team playa like that
It's crazy that the snowballing is even worse now. If you're 20k behind now you might as well give up. There is no coming back with urn and the new rift mechanic.
>>572496793Nay, Vindicta main here and I specifically warned about them buffing her already overtuned damage, it does virtually nothing for the character and only makes her more cancerous to fight.
>Bina
>>572506625Mina is in the category that half the characters in the game are in, where they are utterly miserable and obnoxious in every single way to play against. Laning against Mina is not fun. Chasing Mina is not fun. Getting dove by Mina is not fun. She's simply a bad design.
>>572506923>binah
>>572506874I wanna snowball with Mina.
Does anyone have the Jeffrey Epstein Doorman mod?The jannies on GB removed it for no reason.
>>572505574jerma owns u
In the velvet shroud of the Eternal Threshold, where the moon weeps silver ichor upon fractured mirrors of fate...I, the Shadowed Warden of the Ninth Coil, have gazed into the flickering azure flame of forgotten equilibria.Deadlock's Balance... ah, children of the Veil. You chase the discordant hum of over-tuned essences. The Weaver's Loom frays! One hero swells with stolen lumen, devouring the prana of the lane, while another's sigils lie dormant, whispering forgotten curses in the abyss between patches.The Candle reveals: True equilibrium is not the sterile null of numbers, but the sacred Dance of Opposites. Let the thunderous brute be humbled by nimble shadow, let the arcane stormcaller fear the silent fang in the dark. Yet the scales tip once more— the ancient pacts broken by hasty glyphs in the Dev's codex.I light this taper not to curse, but to illuminate the Path of Reckoning. Restore the Whispering Symmetry. Let every soul in the arena burn with purpose, neither eclipsed nor blinding. The night watches. The flame remembers.Balance... or be unmade in the unraveling.
>>572506037this is like saying the toxic bullet buff is a graves buff, you need to buy the item to experience the net increase in effectiveness and some graves builds have been straying from summonmaxxing with heroic aura given that her summons are dogshit
>>572506031time to actually learn to play the game silvertroon
>shiv is dead dead murdered rapedwew, just as I had found my new main, guess I'm going back to punchbop
>>572506625Mina has never been weak, she got pushed out of the meta because of urn brooling.>muh winrateMight as well buff Venator and Sinclair then, they're soo weak right?
>graves remains completely the same and not nerfedHow?
>>572507895>plays overpowered retard-proofed characterGolly! This character fits me perfectly!
>>572504129>Did they change the dev team?Legit feels like it, it's one retarded decision after another.
>- Shiv: Alt Fire knockback movement is now disabled by slowing hex statejesus christ just delete shiv as much as they keep raping him
>they undid the toxic bullets nerfdid they finally realize they just had to nerf people's guns instead of the item that they all bought?
>>572508148>urn brooling is now the forced meta more than ever, as it has been>"Mina was never weak, except in [major focal gameplay point of current and recent patches (for better or worse)]"makes sense
>- The Doorman: Baroness now requires captive to solve a puzzle by matching three of the same icons out of potential nine in liue of a platforming challenge
>>572505574TRVTHNVKE
>All ultimate base and upgrade cooldowns nerfed by 15% (rounded to the nearest multiple of 5)Does this mean the cooldowns were increased or decreased?
>>572509195yeah
>enemy Victor’s name is bunch of numbersI am gonna get fucked
>>572509412If I can beat an enemy smurf after a week break then so can you anonBut seriously what the fuck I got put up against eternus player as a ascendant 2.
>>572509195Increased- less ultimates
>>572492031>Urn cannot be manually dropped. It gets dropped when you get hit with a light or heavy melee, are stunned or are killed. It stays where it drops and does not walk back home.>After 3 Minutes from spawn the Urn will start walking very slowly on his own towards the deposit locationwhy say it doesn't go back then? retards
crushing fists is now core on shiv
Can't hit anyone with ultThis shit is made for aim hackers
>>572508536>give a character a completely broken and powercrept movement ability on top of basically having a better Abrams passive and on top of having a ridiculous stacking damage over time bleed on top of having an ability that refunds it's cooldown if it hits literally anything at all on top of shredding spirit resistance so your gay knives do even more damage>also give him an execute so just picking him means the entire enemy team is effectively down 20% of their HP at all timesShiv should never have left the drawing board. Do you not remember how broken he was on release? He was just a bad design.
>>572509872doesn't it just buff charged melee? instead of all melee abilties
>>572510082Don't go for headshots, just go for quick scope body shots. Early you can fly closer to the ground to make their profile a bit large to shoot. Otherwise, just get good.
>third yamato today that went out of their way to throw the game>coasting in jungle killing our camps and not engaging in teamfights>check statlocker>seeker 2>check profile>1033 hours on deadlockeither they are so abyssmally bad and buckbroken by the game or this is how they get their kicks
>>572492031>no wraith nerfs (again)>mina for some reason buffed to fuckwhat are these devs on what drugs are they taking over there?
>>572510160no, it has +22% melee damage, restores ammo on any melee hits, and stuns after enough melee hits of any kind, all proccing on dash now (more ammo extra important after alt fire ammo cost nerf)
Played a few games and safe to say they made the game even worse than before lol! They really lost the vision for this game, I'm smelling another Artifact. RIP Deadlock 2024 - 2026.
>>572510160at max rage you get the afterimage so in theory if you build CDR on his dash and max it out you can build up crushing stacks easily in teamfights
why do the devs absolutely despise shiv so much? Lol also no graves buffs or yamato nerfs thanks
>>572509853based no-reading-comprehension retard
>>572510943valve is retarded we know know take another dota 2 major update
>>572510943>graves buffs That auto pilot character needs more nerfs
>>572510809Shame that when the game started to look good it also started to feel like shit.
>warden gun dps at 35 boons is now LOWER than mo & krill gun dps
>>572510943It's clear Valve can't balance Graves to make everyone happy so she's probably getting a rework.
>>572511098but the retarded aim in a general direction and delete walkers + people with a free escape and a cc ult doesnt and is not changed at all okeeeee
>>572511376that's less so because she's unbalanceable and more so because of the OBVIOUS shooter player vs moba player dynamic going around. if you were to balance the game from a "hey this is AIDS to play against maybe we should rework it" then they would have to rework half the fucking cast into being seven clones.how they did not see this coming from day fucking one when you had retards like emplemon or zesty saying it'd happen i have zero fucking clue
>>572511347Yeah he's white and not a nigger like Wraith so he isn't allowed to have a good gun.
>>572507639is this the bad timeline?
>>572511768I've been saying this for months that about half the cast in Deadlock needs to be completely reworked not for being non-functional or broken, but for being absolutely miserable to play against in most situations. Mina, Celeste, Shiv, Graves, Apollo, Grey Talon, Paige, the list goes on, none of these characters are fun to play against.
>rem killedlol im glad they buffed apollo so we're back playing against annoying fucks
Warden is just lame tbqh he should be worked into something interesting. New model and moveset that's thematically coherent.
>>572512089sadly for you this comes with the territory of it being a moba (and to a lesser extent a hero shooter as well)you'll get to have the fun and sovl removed from those heroes' kits but the game will remain fundamentally just as unfun to play against as before. and it will only get worse as the game gets older and the devs have to devolve into yet even niches territories to keep the new hero kits fresh, which is something they were already struggling before seeing as to just how fucking dogshit the new batches are to play against and how comparatively tame the original cast was with their implementation.
>>572492031My beloved urn run is back, while keeping the king of the hill sub-objective. I think this is a positive change, we now have two different midgame objectives instead of a single one that is worth more than anything in the game save for midboss and shrines. Also interesting that Shiv now has a melee build. And they keep buffing spirit vyper, i really want to make the daggerspam build work for her so bad...
>>572511376Rework her skulls to be a skillshot skulls explode on contact.Her two stays the sameMove tier 3 upgrade from her 3 to tier 2. Her new tier 3 for her 3 now increases her built in lifesteal by 10% and reduces the target's damage dealt by 8%Change her ults tier 3 soul upgrade. If you place her ult down near a dead enemy hero it'll empower a ghoul. 1 dead hero near her ult = one empowered ghoul, 3 dead heroes near her ult = 3 empowered ghouls. Empowered ghouls hone in on enemies and can fly through walls just like Yamato's 2.
>>572512374Except the change only made the game more of a snowball. If you're behind the enemy team automatically get the new rift for free.
>>572512524>you know the only character in the game whose AOEslop ability actually interacts with the game in an unique manner?>yeah let's just remova that and make it AOEslop like the resti do like the gravestone idea though. hell make it use the model of the dead hero as well. it'll look janky as fuck but it'd be sovlfvl
>>572512374You're not allowed to be positive, you have to contribute to the misery circlejerk.
>>572512337I know, I played Dota 2 for a while, it's a problem inherent to the genre, and Deadlock is nowhere near good enough to fix it, especially when they are still deciding on if they want to make AoE slop an essential part of the game with these retarded king of the hill objectives.
>no wraith nerfs>no infernus nerfs>haze buffsArtifact 2.0
>>572511376Just let her be a character people don't like. Every class based online game has a character that people think is aids, esp in mobas. Thinking a character should just be totally reworked because they're annoying is peak reddit.
>>572513023Haze getting buffs is actually deranged, I guess they considered making Cursed Relic slightly worse a haze nerf. It's still an absurd item.Wraith is always going to be overpowered because the game obviously needs another braindead M1 hybrid hyper-carry character.>>572513146But Redditors loved Techies, and he was an abomination of game design that made matches last way too long.
I was hoping a new lane pusher spawn objective would be the bear and bullmaybe for a future map update with heroes
Is there a mod that makes it so Rem runs around with his fat cock and balls out?
>>572512962Her skulls are so jank though. Anyone with above room temp IQ can easily counterplay her. Their only usefulness is early game in lane where you throw them at someone and then parry dash into the enemy as they try to melee the skulls.
>>572513146sadly valve doesn't like this fact and thus they're destined to remove the sovl from their kits like they did with techies>>572512996separating the urn and the koth into two objectives is a step in the right direction at least, although it should've just been a new objective altogether that doesn't involve a forced broolout every 5 minutes.
>>572510728having a bigger mag technically makes that nerf not happen
>mfw reading these patch notes
>victor duo asking me to play ivy instead of remok i like this patch
yep that's it i'm going back to ffxiv
>>572511376I genuinely just dislike how braindead her design is. When I'm getting out traded, it doesn't feel like I'm being outskilled. The Graves player does not get punished for a bad ult, it will always have value. For some reason the entire time the tombstone is up the cooldown still goes down and not when it ends. So when it ends, she's already a third of the way to the next one. Hitting echo shard skulls and if your gun cannot reliably clean the skulls you just have to hold the L and respect it since they don't break on anything else. Her root being practically silent until it's already active. The gun that autoaims. Even when she's bad I'm just irritated by get gameplay loop. It's bizarre that Icefrog should know what made Undying work fine for years but for some reason the tombstone is still spawning zombies as you punch it? What is this autism? She'll simply never be allowed to be good. It's what I remember about Abrams years back where it was retard proof. Now he's like half as much retard proof and feels more balanced for it. I can't think of a better example honestly but I just hate her gameplay loop
>Rem healing nerfs and helper "rebalancing" in a way that won't matter until end game because you max them after heal and ultffffuck you. It's deserved but not when Pocket and Holliday are barely touched
>>572514046Listen dude Pocket needs to be overpowered because he's a tranny character, just like Celeste and Holliday.
When are they adding a pacifist mercy healer character already.
>>572513991>The Graves player does not get punished for a bad ultStopped reading there. Since they increased the soul gain on killing her ghouls, bad graves ults are full-on griefing her team. I'm not even asking you to post rank, I know you're emissary tops.
Does anyone have this mod?
>>572514172The bounty from killing skulls and ghouls is so pathetically low still, it's not like McGinnis turrets where they are worth about as much as a lane creep.
>>572514172did this hero need a free zombie baseline on her root btweverything about her design makes me question if it's actually icefrog working on this game and not his doppelgangertell me how much it flips a soul deficit or you're larping. i'll give you 5 minutes
>>572514287I accept your concession.
>>572514287>The bounty from killing skulls and ghouls is so pathetically low stillYou're just wrong. If you let the ult run for the full duration and throw your m1 carry at it they get a free creep waves' worth of souls plus a little extra. If my graves is giving the enemy m1 a free creep wave every minute off cd that nigger is griefing.
>warden got another slap on the wristWhy do they let m1ggers get away with this
>>572514172+20 souls its over basically throwing our networth will never recover worst hero in the game -ZZZ tier
I wish reporting actually did more than diddly shit.Feels like i'm flipping a coin on whether I'm going to match with another thrower.What's the appeal in it?Just joy in sucking the life out of your teamates?
>>572509412>>572509695>If I can beat an enemy smurf after a week break then so can you anonno I can't
>patch notes day>opinions on game balance in dlg drop about 30 iq pointsI'm noticing.
post your top 8 niggas
>Dynamo: Rejuvenating Aurora regeneration increased from 25/s to 30/s...The horrors of war. The memories. They're starting to return...
>leave game because my internet is shit>no ban or anythinghow does that shit work? I thought it's automatic
>Doorman: Doorway cooldown increased from 40s to 45s...?
>>572515271An absolute nothing change.
>>572515578the first and last dynamo buff of this centuryI don't mind dynamo being a b tier bumble bee for the time being, way better than him being the absolute s tier rape gorilla he was a few patches ago
To the person who says, "your the one at fault for not winning".Why am I the only mother fucker on my team doing damage in the late game then?Venator aint doing shitMina cant even kill a fly with her ultiand Shiv is diving 1v6.Then they realize that im the ONLY real threat and they start focusing me, and try as I might I cannot win a 1v6 stun-fuckfest.So what am I supposed to do differently?Just not do damage and join my team in losing?Like what the fuck, please inform me tell me what I can do differently because I am the "ONLY" common factor in my games.
>nothing else but buffs for m&kLET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOI LOVE GRINNING AND DIGGING BROS!
>>572510809>>572511336they fucking fixed the main barrier of entry making the game unplayable eye cancer then like a year later at most they destroyed everything they had created all the way to the foundationtoday's the day I legitimately uninstall, this patch and one of my external harddrives solved this debate I've been havingValve is so fucking dead, go make more VR garbage"Half-Life Alyx is revolutionary in the genre of Quarter Pounder Meals. It may have the best Quarter Pounder of all time."
>>572515726He's my favorite character to play so all I really would care for buffs for him is to make his gun's velocity less bad. I feel like if your gun is below 400 m/s velocity you are forced to buy hi velocity/opening rounds, which is just another mandatory item purchase every game alongside dispel magic and stamina items.
>>572515860literally just accept that there are games where you can't do nothing to win, no matter how hard you try
>>572516064The game has bigger problems than being unreadable due to all the effects, though that is a big problem. The movement in the game is really stupid to pull off and mostly consists of source engine bugs that weren't removed for some retarded reason.
so they buffed seven whyyyyyyyyyyyy......?? any explanation for this?can we force the devs to start putting little infoboxes in the patch notes as to WHY they did certain changes? so we could actually criticize the logic they have for some of them? It might give them enough motivation to actually fix any terribly thought-out changes
>>572515860as an Eternus 2play with friends if you want to rank up. The lack of draft with bans being random and no way to make a reliable team comp means you just get fucked if the enemy scales better into the late game. Sorry bro, but the house always winsOr just dont take ranked seriously cause the retards who post their rank to shit on people are at best Ritualist who photoshop their rank.
>>572510090Uh Abrams passive is better. Abrams always gets the regen, Shiv only gets free health when taking damage.
signs the match is over when your teammate buys any of these>tankbuster>decay>lightning scroll>titanic mag>bullet resist shredder>blood tribute>active reload>spellslinger>sharpshooter>radiant regen>express shot>non support character buys healing tempo
>>572516493I buy 3 of these things in my Seven build and can reliably rape into the mid/late game.
>>572516493>signs the match is over when your teammate buys any of these>>tan-DNF.
>>572516493I run lighting scroll vindicta
>no geist buffswtf she's like one of the weakest heroes in the entire game all her builds suck but no buffs? and seven gets buffs???
>>572516493Tankbuster is good thoughhoweverbeitinactuality
What characters actually get mileage out of using Sharpshooter besides vindicta?
>>572516962none of them, if you see someone buy it report them
>>572517031...talon...?
im so fucking sick of playing a character with shitty CC to the point where I have to rely on others.Then they fight in a building and make me useless even though im BEGGING M&K to stun out in the open...
>>572516962GT
>>572517062>>572517080Seekertards...
>>572456829shiv is more deserving of the>they're actually BROKEN>they're actually SHITlarp gag than silver.
>>572514287You clearly don't know how ASSFAGGOTS workIf a Graves mindlessly uses her ult to push a lane two things happen>it pushes the lane towards a safer area for the carry to farm>it gives extra gold for the carry to farm safelyAt the 10 minute mark, a Graves ulti gives around 550 souls as well as 2 free creepwaves for a carry that can comfortably sit in their tower/walker. So at minute 10 you are giving over 1500 souls for free.Git gud
>>572517179Vindicta?
>>572517179>gun talon isn't goodoraclebro......
>>572506923>Beena
>>572517179huh? did they nerf gun talon when I wasn't looking...? a 6.4k orange investment is still good on gun talon if they haven't
>>572517216If your team doesn't push with your ult, or push a different lane while your ult pushes one and forces a player away, then you are using it wrong.
>>572517306>>572517346gun talon doesn't need sharpshooter retards
Man, Majestic leap Warden is so much fun
I started playing a week ago when Urn was how it was.With these changes I see people going "URNS BACK TO HOW IT WAS BEFORE"but what the fuck does that mean?the fuck does it do now?
>>572517441you deliver it to the opposite side of the map and instantly get souls from it, no turn-in time. only difference is it's a full solo objective now, only the guy delivering gets the souls
>>572517376This doesn't change the fact saying "Graves doesn't get punished for using her ult" is completely false.Graves ult is absolute bullshit in objective taking and tfs but only because the team that has Graves is good at zoning the enemy team away from the tombstone while winning the teamfight.Saying that Graves is a free push is simply macro issue.
What characters actually get mileage out of using Sharpshooter besides vindicta AND Grey talon?
>>572517597I kinda liked how it was before...it was a good way to force fights aside from mid bossno wonder everyone looked at me like im retarded when I went "take urn and lets force a fight"
>>572517413confirmed hardstuck oracle concession accepted
Is anyone elses matchmaking beyond fucked? I've only won 2 our of my previous 16 games. Ranked down from high Oracle to Emissary.Today alone, I played 4 match were 3 ended early because of leavers and the full match was just getting absolutely ass pounded. They need to remove ranks entirely at this point because everyone else I play with either only plays brawl now or has quit.
>>572516493decay rapes drain tank characters wtf are you talking about
>>572517674anon did you completely miss the new rift objective which serves the purpose of forcing teamfights
>>572517613Venator
>>572507895if you drop a hero after one nerf they were never your main
>>572517731Matchmaking has been bad for well over a year, due to the playerbase dropping constantly.
>>572517747im seeker btw
>>572517789NO I DIDNTI JUST HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK IT DOES ASIDE FROM PUT TEXT ON MY SCREEN
>>572517824I've yet to meet an m&k main that actually larped being a m&k playerthey are the most dedicated, honest members of society you'll ever encounterthey are pathological truth-tellers
>>572510943Most characters in the game are designed in such a way that they're either broken OP or complete dogshit, along with also being obnoxious regardless of how good they are.
>>572518210icefrog game design philosophy strikes again
>>572510809>>572511336>>572516064i told you niggas this would happen but y'all just laughed it up and said "oh valve would never let this happen. shartifact and blunderlords were CLEARLY not PASSION PROJECTS like deadlock! why would a fucking moba hero shooter mixup be a cashgrab??"you reap what you sow
slowly but surelythe player peaks are getting lowerbetter fix the game, yoshi! before something bad happens! :O
>>572518210Yeah regardless of how strong Celeste or Calico are, for example, they are utterly obnoxious to play against.
>>572518407the game forcing ranked but not having a surrender button is what is slowly turning me offbeing in a losing game for 20 more minutes is boring as shit. I dont mind committing to a 40 minute game when its close or easily winnable. But theres a certain point in the game past the 35 minute mark where 1 or 2 bad teamfights is genuinely GG, your not coming back unless the enemy does something SUPREMELY retarded (usually when they get a base tower and a shrine or 2 is that point)
you niggers will never be satisfied
>>572518651fix yo game yoshiboy
>>572518407Forced ranked mode plus no surrender option plus the dogshit balance plus the objectives all not being fun to fight over is making people lose interest. I got to Phantom and my friend got to Ascendant before we just dropped the game entirely.
"We certainly understand the desire for more info since its been a while, but we are a little reluctant to give specific dates atm because there are still a bunch of moving parts that make it hard for us to predict with confidence right now. Specific timing aside though, there are three updates/categories we are prioritizing on getting out next: A revamped matchmaking/ranked update, an item focused update, and a large content update. We aren't sure about the order these will come out yet, but we are trying to get the matchmaking update out in a few weeks to allow for a little time to stabilize things before the content update is ready."
>>572518651this. stop complaining and consume product.
>>572518651Anon, Warden and Pocket's guns barely got any nerfs, Haze and Seven got buffed. Rem healing got nerfed for no fucking reason. Why would anyone be happy about this update.
LETS KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE MECHANICS UNTIL THE GAME IS BALANCED!!!THANK YOU YOSHI FOR KEEPING URN THEN ADDING THIS WEIRD RIFT THING, ALONGSIDE THE BRIDGE BUFFS, MID BUFF, THE SOUL MACHINE, AND TURRET/WALKER BUFFS/RESISTANCES!
>>572518781it's so vague. matchmaking updates that dooooo what exactly? all I'm hearing are promising buzzwords here with no substance
>>572518878Warden's gun keeps getting nerfed but nothing else about him gets actual buffs.
can one of u fags make the next thread so I can effortpost already ty
>>5725153750 problems with this.fuck doorman
Why does bebop hyperbeam exist when McNiggis rocket barrage is just a straight upgrade
>>572518895they call it deadwhateverthefucklock
>>572518895Awesome we're like halfway to Dota 2 at this point.
>>572519126my favorite part of bebop beam is the aoe at the end of the beam that does nothing and has never worked
>yet another update not fixing gunshit metaThat's it for me.
Vindicta and Talon should have passive buffs vs Seven and Bebop when they're ulting. you have 2 characters who are DESIGNED to fight them when they ulti yet they cant do shit cause both characters get stupid ass bullet and spirit resistance. Them popping ulti is basically a no brainer and they're so powerful they can shut down a teamfight INSTANTLY
>>572518781I would be okay with them slowing down just to fix the fucking game at this pointwe've been going 200 mp/h on the deadlock train, and so far it's done nothing but make the train swerve off the tracks, charge down the slope and barrel towards the oncoming edge of a cliff
GONNA PLAY GUN IVY NOW AND YOU CANT STOP ME
>>572519464Seeker-kun...
>>572518407Don't worry, we just got an EPIC patch that TOTALLY changes the game (we split the shitty koth urn into two objectives and the playercount right now is about the same as it was this time last week)
>>572519595>>572519595
>>572519567actually im Arcanist 4.
>>572515220okay :3
>>572519831jesus christ
>>572515220i played gun ivy in 2024 and switched to vyper when they killed gun ivy
>>572515220me? I can't aim
>>572519464those passive buffs are called being completely uninteractive for the entire time they're not ulting
Matchmaking patch in JulyContent/item patch in august
>>572521086give me rank resetI want to play m1ggers without worry of griefing
>enemy team has calico and mo>free urns for the rest of the gamedoorman portals are somehow not allowed to deliver urn but this is btw
>>572518781these niggas say this as if the last time they did a big matchmaking update it wasn't just lifting some bullshit model off chatgpt by their own admissionmulti billionaire company btw
3 weeks for a matchmaking update2 months for an item "revamp" (just number moving shit)at least 4 for an actual updateall of this half a year since the last big updatelol this shit is getting less development than dota somehow. lmfao.
>>572520546I honestly just don't want to aim, fuck that, I've played enough cs2
I hate Viktor so damn much, what a bullshit hero.
>>572521086this is not fake and it is not gay.
>>572518781>matchmaking/ranked updateWhat did he mean by this
>>572521086so they're adding an all pick draft mode first, and possibly immortal draft.reworking the item shop again, and then releasing new heroes with a jungle rework.
>>572523381>draftGod I fucking hope not
>>572466128calm down taco bell lol
taco bell
>>572513746
how the fuck do we play shiv now?!!! do you even get radiant regeneration still? knives feel very strong early game still.
>>572497903Hello?!
>>572515338You do it enough you get into low priority que (pits of hell que up with cheaters and Russians)After n that you get permanlow prio basically killing your account and then permanently banned.Assuming it works like dota.
>>572515220
>>572517969anon its just koth urn
>>572533243vile
>>572518156We have you now!
