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Update Soon Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>572418616
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>insert heavy-handed snowballing mechanics
>in a game called ‘deadlock'
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>>572519595
Draft mode soon
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>>572519595
>6 months since the last major content update
>3rd down the list of upcoming updates meaning it'll probably be at least another few months more on top of that
Place your bets, how low will the playercount get at its worst? 30k? 20k?
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We need a slur for shitters that still complain about graves
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>>572519595
>3 bison play this game
I FUCKING KNEW IT, THOSE FUCKING BISON-GGERS THROWING MY GAMES ARE REAL
AND YOU ALL CALLED ME FUCKING CRAZY
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Sex with Venator
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GONNA PLAY GUN IVY NOW
DONT COME TO MIDBOSS TOMORROW
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>>572515220
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>Basically reverted level cap
>Reverted the insane amount of souls you get from objectives
Fucking THANK YOU. Game already feels better from the couple of games I played.
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So what exactly does she do now (besides still terrorize low elo lobbies)?
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>>572520351
press ult and generate slurs
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>FOLLOW ME, little Davey. You must be excited. Not many people get to meet our balance team.
>Yes. I'm totally excited. Deadlock is so much fun!
>Well, here we are. Davey, the Deadlock balance team.
>What...? What are they?
>They're manatees. Gretchen and Flubber are from the Gulf of America. Yoshi, Seungmin, and Hyunwoo are all from the overseas team.
>Deadlock is balanced by manatees? Overseas?
>Of course. It all makes sense now.
>They really are brilliant creatures. You see, the right side of the tank is filled with idea balls. Each idea ball has a hero, an ability, or a number written on it. There's millions of them. After the big major patch update, the manatees are deployed. The manatees choose an idea ball and swim it to the patch combine on the other side of the tank.
>There goes Yoshi! He's coming up with an idea!
>Oh, he came up with Seven.
>The idea balls drop into the patch combine and form a part of the new update. "Seven," "Lightning," "one," "Storm Cloud," "five meters." A perfect Deadlock patch note! I can read it now!
>>>Seven: Lightning Ball charge delay reduced from 7s to 6s. Storm Cloud time to expand increased from 1.5s to 3.5s. Storm Cloud damage interval increased from 0.25s to 0.3s (DPS unchanged). Storm Cloud T2 now also increases Initial Radius by +5m.
>W-wait a minute. Wait a minute. Seven has the highest winrate of any hero in the game. 56% in all ranks. And Yoshi buffed him? How? Manatees don't read stats!
>Yoshi doesn't know what a winrate is. He is a sea cow. He just pushes the ball into the combine. He has kept Seven untouched, or buffed in nine of the last eleven patches.
>W-wait. The manatees are off the perch. They've stopped. Why have they stopped?
>When the community asked the team to rework Doorman last week, it meant the Doorman ball had to go into the idea tank. And the manatees do not want to rework Doorman. Drop one Doorman ball into the idea tank, and the manatees stop working. Here. I'll show you --
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ok so
>3 weeks for the ranked update
>5 more weeks for whatever an item update is
>another month and a half for the large content update
whooo's ready for the halloween update :DDD
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this update is pretty indian coded
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>>572519791
Graves is the designated no skill character for your girlfriend to play as
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>>572520502
my fucking sides
I'm crying holy shit
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>>572520502
Kino
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this is what a dying, uninterested playerbase does to a man
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>>572520502
is this how i find out they actually buffed seven
do they read posts in here that say he's somehow mid tier with a 60% wr?
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>>572521197
those retards work 15 hour weeks what the fuck are they doing all day and do not reply to me with the THEY JUST PICK RANDOM STUFF BECAUSE VALVE LETS THEM BE REE fuck off with that shit and stop defending this horrible company
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You cant complain about anything because its a heckin playtest!
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>>572521384
>Total staff as of 2021: 336 people

>Administration: 35 people making an average of 4.5 million a year

>Game Developers: 181 people making an average of 1 million a year

>Steam Developers: 79 people making an average of 960k a year

>Hardware Developers: 41 people making average of 430k a year

>>from 2 years ago

Yoshi's got enough money to buy then sell you, don't speak ill of the MASTER
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>>572521473
This but unironically
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>>572521384
Fortnitedrone spotted
Now say the line, tell us how valve is a monopoly and Epic Games needs to be elevated because... THEY JUST SHOILD BE OKKK???
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>>572521473
This but ironically
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>>572521649
what in the actual fuck this must be a bot
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I just downloaded this. I played league and dota.
Any tips to start?
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>nth shit update in a row
I know people like to joke about eos but if this continues for another year or so its going to be true.

0 faith in upcoming updates btw, old gods was shit, every update since has been shit, no reason to think future updates will be any good they've clearly lost the magic
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>>572519701
The game has always been snowbally, but less so before the constant urn changes and the march 6th update.
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>>572519780
>probably
nigga you know we ain't getting shit until september at the very earliest
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>>572521750
RUN
RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN NIGGA
THIS SHIT AIN'T WORTH IT AIIAIEIAEIAIAIEIAIEAIA
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shiv alt fire absolutely fucks now by the way
prepare to experience a new hell
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so people hated the forced teamfight slop and they responded with a new objective thats teamfight slop while reverting the urn rework
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>>572521750
yeah, uninstall
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>>572521750
Become a Rem main
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>>572521992
>people hate the new urn nonsense
>make a new objective that is literally the urn nonsense but it isn't the urn
>urn is now just... free souls for one guy?
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>>572521750
bigger dopamine hits than any of those games
uninstall now
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>>572521750
Bad time to get into the game, the last dozen patches have all made it worse with little improvement on things that have been massive issues for the entire time the game has been out.
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>your two other lanes go 0/10
How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>572521582
>>Game Developers: 181
no way deadlock has more than 40 of those
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>yoshigpt, generate me some buns balancing changes
>>one moment: beep... boopp... bap... haze buff... beep... shiv nerf... baep... rift... All done! Final generative result: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003
>uhhhh, aren't you forgetting some doorman changes?
>>oh, you're absolutely right! beep... boop... all done! [1] changes have been made!
>can you give him another...??
>...hello?
>>You have run out of credits. Please refill your credits using a payment method, or-
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This character is the most low skill unfun carrying bullshit I've seen in a long time
It's funny that the character is fat and ugly because I imagine that the playerbase looks something similar
I don't understand how desperate and bad at games you have to be to pick a character like this. Reminds me of blatant pay2win characters in fighting games.
I guess niggers need a character, too.
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>>572522443
uhhh I think it's safe to say it's starting to get less and less devs on the team
see below
>>572521752
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This character is the most low skill unfun carrying bullshit I've seen in a long time
It's funny that the character is fat and ugly because I imagine that the playerbase looks something similar
I don't understand how desperate and bad at games you have to be to pick a character like this. Reminds me of blatant pay2win characters in fighting games.
I guess niggers need a character, too.
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>>572522614
>I don't understand how desperate and bad at games you have to be to pick a character like this
This but Calico
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I tilt anytime I lane against Calico
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This character is the most low skill unfun carrying bullshit I've seen in a long time
It's funny that the character is fat and ugly because I imagine that the playerbase looks something similar
I don't understand how desperate and bad at games you have to be to pick a character like this. Reminds me of blatant pay2win characters in fighting games.
Niggas be like... "GOOBALL!!!!" I guess niggers need a character, too.
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>>572522803
At least they have to aim
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>it's funny that the character is fat and ugly
Maurice, don't listen to him. He's a bit of a... Hm. What's the word? Primate.
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>>572519595
What the fuck does "matchmaking/ranked" actually mean
I doubt they're going to split ranked and unranked with so few players
I also doubt they're going to do draft given they're trying to figure out individual hero roles
So what the hell are they actually planning on doing?
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>warden gun dps at 35 boons is now LOWER than mo & krill's
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This character is the most low skill unfun carrying bullshit I've seen in a long time
It's funny that the character is a spindly midget because I imagine that the playerbase looks something similar
I don't understand how desperate and bad at games you have to be to pick a character like this. Reminds me of blatant pay2win characters in fighting games.
Niggas be like... "IT'S SLORKIN' TIME!!!!" I guess niggers need a character, too.
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>>572519825
Calm down Mina!
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>>572523156
Did they really nerf it that much? What about the spirit scaling for fire rate it gets?
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holy fuck why did they buff celeste? top damage in the past 3 games i played
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>I'M THE SLORK! YOU DORK!
I shat my pants when I heard that in game for the first time
why'd they buff slork when he had a 59% winrate? that's kind of absurd
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>>572522513
>Haze buffs
>Nothing burger buffs and a curse nerf
If anything she's worse
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>>572522104
we actually reduced all the "dopamine hits" in this update when examining character stats and in game mechanics
try it out and report any instances of fun on the forums, we're doing our best to make the game gradually less fun as apart of a technical experiment we're doing
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Rem!
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>>572523539
at 0.34 scaling, which is what he had before today's patch, his gun dps at 35 boons was 122, the exact same as mo&krill, this was with taking the spirit power from boons into account
now, 0.28 scaling, warden's 35 boon dps is at 113
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lotta thoughts about shiv
>boon changes is that you can max two abilities sooner but cap 48k instead of 40k, shiv is pretty infamous for "all his abilities are only good when maxed" so being able to dash AND knife sooner is great to keep you useful earlier.
>m2 stuff. Firstly being able to m2 with the new (old) urn means he can very easily slam dunk it in, esp since it kept the huge sprint boost from the new (new) urn so u can easily slide around and this is 100% why it gets effected by slowing hex. It costing more ammo doesn't actually matter because you use this while sliding or rotating (so you just reload) and even with the added scaling you're still not using it for damage outside of niche situations on your last shot
>Knife free -2 cooldown is really good, with investment you can reset the bleed infinitely
>Related recharging rush seems really good now. melee dash activates it instantly, extra ammo gives 3 M2's before reload
>Dash being melee and doing amp. the damage is much higher when built into but b/c lifestrike sucks you aren't invincible with infuser/reverb until CC gangbang. crushing fists works on both dash + clone so that's really fucking funny when it works as the shred + amp keeps stacking
>Bloodletting overall is a buff. 70% bleed clear as t2 > 85% as t3
>Ult got buffed a lot, resets being built in and automatic rage on execute means that shiv is way scarier in lane now. stuff being pushed back to t1/t2 doesn't matter with new boon changes + higher damage and dash amp. universal cooldown nerf balanced by 30% execute

tldr: buy cooldown and duration, buy more regen instead of coping on lifesteal. play a more hybrid style that uses the whole kit instead of just minmaxing dash or knives and getting carried by people who don't buy counter items. he's fine and feels more fun to play cuz he can do more stuff.
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>mcginnis is now entirely useless
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>>572523539
>>572523919
>post-nerf warden dps at max boons: 113
>lash gun dps at max: 113
>mo&krill: 122
>paradox: 120
>dynamo: 115
>rem: 107
>doorman: 109
>victor: 123
>apollo: 125
>holliday: 127
>kelvin: 127
>yamato: 127
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>>572523712
Haze needs some sort of rework or adjustments, she fucking sucks as a carry and also isn't good as the "assassin" because her ult bot shit is so predictable. Calico and Holliday do her job so much better as
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sooooo september for actual patch?

fuck
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>>572523619
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockJan2026/Audio/werewolf_kill_slork_01.mp3
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>shiv express shot altfire with point blank as only other item at max boons does 1000 damage
yep it's kino
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>>572524292
Maybe late August if we're lucky
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>losing streak
no no, thats cool. I just dont understand why nobody pushes when they get 2-3 picks in a lane and why everyone IMMEDIATELY falls back.
Meanwhile they actually commit and get walkers.
It's fucking insane dude. Then people play AOE ultis and solo ulti people and fucking die.
Infernus solo ultis a billy 90% of the time THEN they're team shows up and groups together.
Fucking Dynamo only ultid 2 times (i counted on the replay) in a 45 minute match.
Then infernus calls us retards cause we last ditch try for mid.
If I get chat banned its cause I called him a fucking nigger and told him to never play infernus again.
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>>572524047
oh yeah, and dash being melee + it giving universal damage amp generally means you build rage faster now because of how those things scale in terms of rage build vs spirit, so that's cool when rage is also slightly stronger now by 2 whole %

seems they're leaning into shiv doing damage and having funny movement with bloodletting being a "use this to get the fuck out heroically" instead of a "1v6 the enemy team like an ape but either also do broken damage or be the tickle monster for the first 30s of every teamfight" design shiv has had in the past
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This is 100% not a drill, dagger vyper is now a thing. Go into your hideout, max dagger, buy cd and rapid recharge and observe how you can throw like 15 knives in a row before it goes into CD, with a 1 second delay between each knife. Buy spellslinger and you have permanent max stacks
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>>572524530
>>572524292
I should have figured it would come out when every game on the planet is releasing.
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>>572519595
>revamped matchmaking/ranked update
ranked/unranked modes, as well as more picking modes. current mode will become quick play, then they'll add more picking modes from dota, like all pick, ranked all pick, captain's mode. unclear if we'll get the niche modes like random/single draft.
>item focused update
maybe they'll add more variance in the cost of items, as well as more items that build into other items. at the least it will be a rebalancing of the current items.
>large content update
new heroes, jungle rework, more general assets around the map being polished.

sounds good. looking forward to it.
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>>572524796
just a minor update lads
nothin game breakin here
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The worst part of the shiv rebalancing is that I'm now aware of how many times my DoTs cuck me from the finishing blow kill
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>>572523865
Pillow biting champion 2026
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Rift is such a dogshit change dude. You literally cant force a fight at all and the game decides when to force a fight FOR you which is dumb.
dumb change, fuck you if you like this change.
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is it true the performance got better?
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is this the perfect mokrill build?
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Holy shit spirit talon is DEAD
Ult CD is so long (30% more) and 20% less spirit from stacks means you get only 60% of the extra spirit you previously would have gotten

Gun talon is the only way now
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>despite the warden gun nerfs he's still building gun and oppressive as fuck.
>his spirit keeps getting buffed so he get more value from his 4.8k spirit spike
Just nerf his hp already.
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>>572127019
:)
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New urn is braindead retarded. Characters that are good at running it can basically get it instantly with no opportunity to stop them, characters that are bad at running it have essentially no reason to even try since the rewards aren't worth the risk of being caught and ganked. People will fight to the death on the pickup because intercepting is gonna be basically impossible once people figure out quick run strats.
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So let me get this straight.
>New map objective
>It favors whichever team is more fed
>On top of giving them souls
>On top of spawning a huge fuck you wave of super minions
>On top of those minions not giving you any souls
>Making the leading team get a even bigger advantage
Let's not forget that if the urn spawns on the same side of the rift the winning team basically gets the urn also for free. Do they not pay attention to how people hate how there are barely a chance to comeback in this game when behind?
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shiv at lvl14, 9k souls value doing some "talon at 200 stacks" damage
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Healing Tempo doesn't work on bullet lifesteal but it should work with Ivy 2, no? It's not technically lifesteal, right?
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>>572524910
it's like mid urn all over again where the game decides WHEN you should fight exactly everytime, instead of teamfights happening organically, you are forced into them regardless of what you want to do strategically
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>>572525649
>>572519701
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>>572525649
yoshi too high on amphetamines to properly think conscious thoughts right now or use logic, you must understand
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>>572525649
Super troops RAPE walkers btw, any rift after 20 mins that walker is gone unless there's one up to rotate and try to kill them which is one less person alive to contest the midboss that the winning team will 100% rip after winning rift. This dev team is actually just retarded. Experimenting is fine but these ideas are bad at face value.
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>>572525710
express shot alt fire also procs toxic bullets, silencer, inhibitor, slowing bullets and spiritual overflow all at once with 1 click
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You wanted Holliday nerfed so you could stop getting barreled and wrangled by the tomboy cowgirl.
I wanted Holliday nerfed so all the shitters would stop playing my main.
You and I are not the same
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>>572525761
Healsharing is what triggers healing tempo on Ivy's tether
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>silver still unplayable garbage
>billy nerfed
Literally no reason to play this game now
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Is he finally good?
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RANKED/MATCHMAKING UPDATE

HOPES:
>matchmaker has its drafting capabilities upgraded and attempts to roughly balance team comp
>individual hero proficiency has a more pronounced and overt role
>better smurf detection and new player calibration in general
>pre-game screen that lets you pick lanes and set your build up
>pre-game and post-game chat

FEARS:
>separate ranked/unranked modes (longer queue times due to playerbase split)
>draft (forced to play heroes or roles you don't want to)
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>>572525649
>Snowballing is a big problem and players are complaining
>Instead of implementing comeback mechanics just make the snowballing worse so games end quicker and you can have your turn to stomp
Genius 1000 iq move sankyuu hardworking valve developers.
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>havent seen a holliday in my phantom games in MONTHS
>holliday gets nerfed and now all the retards play holliday (whos shit now), and fucking throw these games to see how her changes work
oh my god im going fucking insane holy shit
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>>572525649
I just don't get why they think there NEEDS to be a game-defining objective EVERY 5 MINUTES
its just stupid
even in fucking league their shitty roshan thing doesn't spawn until 20 minutes
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>>572524908
I wish you wouldn't reply to my posts, creepanon
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>>572525710
>>572526350
I think there's legitimately a bazooka shotgun shiv build now. You get close quarters, express shot, hunters aura and just blast them in the face with your m2 after dashing trough them since the dash now becomes stronger with gun items
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>>572522614
>buy healbane
>buy mystic slow
>never chase him if your solo
>never prioritize him in a team fight
>because the time you have in the fight is better used on weaker targets
>unless your haze, sliver, mina, kelvin, or infernaus
That is how you counter mo & krill as I main him. He is not as strong as you think as he is very easy to kill as he is fat. But you are correct on appearance as I look like Krill but fat like Mo.
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>>572525649
>>572525806
the thing about it spawning on the map on time means you don't have situations where the losing team is too weak to even bring the damn urn to the turn-in site.
you get the bonus comeback stats without any of the risk of having someone who can't fight back have to bring the urn while their team tries to make space for them.
the super minions are really not that big of a deal.
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Queue up think 'how bad could it be'. Almost back at Oracle.
Matched into some emissary 1 zygote solo queued, doesn't even have more than a 100 games played. He goes 0-10 and the game ends in 30 minutes. Literally just some new retard in a lobby he had no business being in.

I think I'll wait for the matchmaking fix patch so this game feels more enjoyable. Probably a month wait is healthy. Well beyond dealing with this shit at this point.
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The latest memepatch created by content creators in Overwatch arcade absolutely mogs the real patch we just got.
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>no McG changes
I guess I should be thankful. Was hoping for a major overhaul to the turrets, but at least it's not more nerfs.

>>572526497
Tomodachi life lookin cowgirl
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>>572526668
it's going to be the fears with a fake rank reset
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>>572526823
the dash also procs lifestrike and spirit snatch
>get shadow weave (+melee damage on top of invis)
>find some nigga doing sinners
>dash for damage amp and melee procs
>express shot 1000 damage
>knife and toxic bullets+healbane will finish them off as you get the fuck outta there
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>>572527190
this ain't overwatch lil white boy
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>>572524095
>turrets are a mild annoyance at best unless enemies let you setup 5+ of them and you build into em
>worst (stationary) heal in the game outside of a few cases where +resist matters
>wall is either OK or entirely useless because half the cast doesn't care and flies under the ceiling
>ultimate does 0 damage, you WILL lose to some faggot venator just holding lmb while you just spent a 200s cooldown
>gun is mid
>surviveability is mid
>mobility is ass
it's over
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>>572524481
WHAT
THAT'S A REAL LINE??
WHAT THE FUCK
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how do i deal more damage as doorman?
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>leveling is way slower again
>silver gets no buffs
So this hero is even more useless now lmao
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>>572527601
Stop using any build that rushes vortex web and any build that buys cheat death at all. Rush rapid recharge. Throw a billion bells for a million damage
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>>572527469
>good only because aoeslop was meta for a week
>nerfed into the ground
>objectives completely reworked
>nothing got re-buffed
yeah she's ass
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>>572526697
>>Instead of implementing comeback mechanics
Such as?
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>>572527601
i wonder if the gun that deals 200+ damage per headshot could be used to deal some damage (/dlg/ can't hit a single bullet with his gun so they insist it doesn't exist)
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>>572527741
i dont do joechuck builds, this is the build im using 620441
but im always lowest team damage. might just be me being bad
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>>572527207
>no McG changes
>I guess I should be thankful. Was hoping for a major overhaul to the turrets, but at least it's not more nerfs.
unplayable in asc now, you get like 5 minutes of fame if you rush lightning scroll and rape people with your ult 2 times in big fights othewrise you don't scale and/or people just counter/ignore your shit
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>untouched 4 patches in a row award
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>Hey guys we already don't know how to balance urn so we made ANOTHER objective
wow
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>>572526813
But Rem is love
Rem is life
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Okay, how would YOU "fix" the game
Let's hear it, I am sure you know better
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>>572528258
Luckily my fat ass is never making it to any high tiers and where I play the heal puddle is usually enough utility to contribute
>>572528881
We're due for some more heroes by now surely
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>>572528881
>add sex
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>>572528881
buff mcginnis

>>572529010
i'm swapping to dynamo, this shit is ass up here
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>>572527971
Don’t give the leading team an easy way to assrape the losing one’s objectives with new super minions? If you want a new idea, why not give the super minions to the losing side of this new obj so that the losing team gets some room to breathe? If not that then just let the super minions drop more souls than usual, there no reason why the winner of this obj needs both even MORE souls than the lead they most likely would have plus minions that increase the losing teams deficit even more by sandbagging their soul collection. This isn’t even experimentation, it’s just throwing shit at the wall.
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>>572528518
are you dumb?
she got nerfed recently, pretty badly too.
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>>572528518
I need more veiny tits Geist in my life
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>be kelvin
>getting the absolute shit kicked out of me by venator and viscous
>lose lane
>farm up
>if the arctic beam doesn't kill them, my grenade will because of the exposure stacks
God it feels good to put confident shitters in their place
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>see more Rem bans then Holliday bans
I'm going to have a stroke
ban Holliday
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>>572526697
>>572525649
If they listen to the players they'll start complaining about how you can't secure a lead anymore because the comeback mechanics are too forgiving (btw they did actually complain like this a few patches ago). The comeback mechanics now are fine and too generous already.
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who are we banning this patch chat
>m1gger who can turn games if you leave him alone for 5m on a sidelane
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>>572528881
Remove the CC effect 90% of DPS ultis have for starters.
Remove the resist Bebop and Seven get for using their ulti's.
Make jungle have actually useful buffs, make the bridge buffs jungle camps (bonus points if the buffs can be stored and given to someone else which can help enforce jungling and ganking as an actual mechanic)
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>>572529696
I can counter every OP hero, but I cannot trust the other 10 players to play around a Doorman.
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>>572524105
what's mina's max boon gun DPS (with and without love bites passive spirit) i'm curious
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>>572529647
Doesn't she fall off around mid game onward?
Either I get stomps with her or vice versa.
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>>572528256
Maybe. If you're decent at shooting you should start the game with Opening rounds into some other gun items to get the 4.8k gun investment since you can chunk people in the early game with his pistol. Other than that its just a question of maximizing the use on your abilities. Always try to actually hit people with the center bell hitbox rather than with just the explosion, make sure you're carting people into walls since that also does a lot of damage. Alternatively if you're like me and can't aim for shit just use the Sniper - doorman's welcome build and spam bells from the very start of the game instead of trying to get early gun investment. I've found that its what works the best for me and its more important to use what works for you than what is 100% optimal.
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>>572529696
im still banning h*lliday
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>>572528881
Buff Silver to S+ tier
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>>572529696
Ivy. She was already strong now she is stronger.
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>black hole cd is now 265s
>no cd perk
damn
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>>572529941
>be sinclair
>see silver
>rape her with her own ult before she can even build hers up.
>can do it again in less than a minute
She needs a rework something fierce
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>>572528881
Bring back 4 lanes. Keep current objectives. Introduce actual jungle into the game where you can have varying outcomes either 1 person on each lane with two in the jungle. Or 2 people in a lane and one person in the jungle.
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>>572530342
that's just sinclair
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>>572529696
Doorman
Even a shit doorman completely controls the flow of the game
Door is the most absurd utility, whole team repeatable natures prophet ult like okay
baroness is just not fun
>inb4 ur shit lol
idc
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Okay Holliday is still good
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>>572529696
I will be keeping my GT ban
I just hate him so fucking much
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>>572529696
I always ban bebop and will continue banning bebop
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>yoshitard nerfed Shiv (again)
>cant build spirit anymore
welp I guess Im not playing anymore
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>>572530448
highly depends on the pilot (and whether his team team is braindead or not)
he's either dogshit or game-warping
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>>572530342
She just needs to have every nerf reverted, then she'd be like B tier and playable
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>gunshit still in the game
Shan't be installing
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im shitposting about how bad the rift is on the forums because this game refuses to have a casual mode. I dont enjoy losing my rank because of a god awful mechanic that now makes it easier for the winners to roll. Sorry Yoshi but if you want an unbiased opinion towards your garbage mechanics then add a casual mode
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There's way too few heroes for the balance to be this fucking bad, what the fuck are the devs smoking and why are they listening to an incestuous community of retards for balance suggestions?
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you niggas are always gay and mad because you play the mobashit
brawl is where the fun is
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>>572530928
see, this is why I dont believe the YOSHI IS ICEFROG rumors.
Cause a man who worked on dota for 10+ years should know how to make a decently fun MOBA.
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Gun Shiv. Alt fire damage ONLY. Think about it...
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>>572531065
Seeker-kun...
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>destroy lane
>become useless when game reaches teamfightslop stage
>lose
This is how every one of my Silver matches today has gone
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>>572530928
>select few characters are op for dozens of patches
>select other few characters are dogshit since release
>bad char is good for 2 days
>ALARM ALARM
>nerfad back into the ground
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fucking dynamos keep feeding sinclair ults on top of his absurd CD on his ult.
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>Halfway into 2026
>Parries are STILL in the game
I won't be playing.
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>>572531256
viscous
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>>572531327
>no i cant just spam melee noooooo
you would never last in a fighting game
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so these fucking things are from a cancelled half-life game right?
they dont fit the art style of deadlock at ALL
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>>572531327
>i didn't pay 60 to block
laugh at this nigga
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>>572531489
>so these fucking things are from a cancelled half-life game right?
There's a reason Deadlock is called "Citadel" in the code
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>>572531327
>opponent spamming melee
>you're spamming melee
>new minigame mechanic where there's now a melee barrage showdown; with afterimages of the characters meleeing at each other with incredible speed
>the one who spams q the fastest while pressing differently selected buttons on the keyboard to parry fast enough will win the showdown
have I been watching too much anime recently or is it kino?
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>>572528881
The rift not being controllable is fucking bullshit
With the urn you could at least try to deny it when half your team is dead to wait for respawns timers, with the new rift after 15 minutes if no one calls warnings on it spawning only thing you get is 25s headstart and you cant even contest it at that point if shitters ran in blue walker and died 5 seconds prior
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>>572531489
larp larp sahur
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>>572531753
autohotkey with pixelbot will detect which buttons to press for parry
so basically autoparrying but even more bullshit
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>>572529696
Yamato
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>silver gets constantly nerfed
>boon formula changes so you level up faster
>silver benefits massively from this as she can't farm worth shit
>keeps getting nerfs
>boon formula changes to make leveling slower again
>silver gets no buffs
She's legitimately the worst hero in the game right now.
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>>572531909
I don't think the average player would set up something so convoluted for this, unless melee showdowns happened every time you tried to melee somebody
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>>572528881
notice how the puzzle can't be solved
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>>572532037
>boon formula changes to make leveling slower again
it's faster for 80% of levelling, retard-kun, it's slower only for your last ap5
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>>572532037
Nope. Not falling for it
you niggers have literally cried "wolf" WAY too many fucking times, and look at what's happened to your precious waifu
DESERVED for annoying the hell out of this gen with the "sssss_ tier silver" "silver cookie" bullshit
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>>572519701
They call it 'snowlock', wait I mean 'cclock' wait I mea
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>>572532048
it's just a plug and play, the only one who would have to do work is the guy who creates the script in the first place and then releases it to public. AHK is the most used method of cheating for fpsslop in the past half decade
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>>572532256
>you niggers have literally cried "wolf" WAY too many fucking times
I want Silver to make me cry "wolf"
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>>572532037
and stay down
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Reminder the next major update will have no new heroes
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>>572532256
She's never been S tier though.
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>Silver and Celeste both start ERPing in all chat
Fucking white people man.
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>>572532381
we dont need new heroes
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>>572532398
lol, lmao
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>>572532256
Falling for what? She's never been good and only retards pretended otherwise.
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>>572532429
I want big booby ixian mommy cadence
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>>572525710
does this still work after the update that just dropped? I had a game where I could build rage off creeps and that's been fixed so it could be they fucked up M2 in some way that's been adjusted
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Why are there so many actual negros that play this game?
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>>572532381
GRIM.
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>>572532427
maybe dont play brawl if you want real men on your teams
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>>572532661
burgerland issues
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>>572532661
Cause it has snowbunny PAWGs like Silver
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>>572528814
There better be a hyper birdcock in the full image
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>>572532635
yeah it does, relaunched game and doing 2000dmg at max boons on the dummy
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I'm uninstalling until they rework rift retard devs
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>>572528881
>Transit lines can only be used to move out from the base and not towards it in order to slow down cross-map movement
>Expand the map by a decent % as well, literally scale up building/street sizes and insert new ones if needed to make it wider and taller
>Now that rotations aren't nearly instant and managing your transit line speed boost matters, rework jungle camps to be tougher and fewer in number while giving more souls
>Rework midboss to be in a larger underground tunnel complex that he wanders, where whichever side of the map the rift is spawning on is the opposite to where he currently is
>Rework items significantly, copy DotA's design ethos more where you can have fewer of them overall but they're bigger impact individually with more varied active effects.
>All bullet resist items now also grant procc resist, so stuff like tesla bullets is less likely to trigger or Silencer takes longer to build up
you now have a game where winning one map objective does not immediately snowball into a second, where split-pushing can actually be effective without requiring a giga-farmed M1 hero, and where counter-buying requires more thought about which specific heroes you want to target and people can't just easily buy 3 actives that shut down most of the enemy team collectively
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Game has just updated again.

Patch notes:
-Nerfed Shiv
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>Unstable rift isn't a football match where you try to score the urn into a goal
Fucking washed ass devs
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>after the global ult nerf, lycan curse now has an 80sec cd
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>>572519595
>made a mandatory side objective
>AGAIN
>urn still exists in the game and its shit
>AGAIN
>buffed cancer characters like celeste and mina
>AGAIN
what is wrong with these devs?
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They need to just go full Kirby Air Ride City Trial on this shit.
Make Rift/Urn/Other objectives a random spawn every interval.
Anyone in here played Air Ride know what I'm saying?
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>>572533337
Felt this hard in my first game
Was exactly 10 seconds off from a timing that would've secured a double kill on the enemy small camp
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>>572533337
>>572533670
When you think about it, this is ACTUALLY a buff to bola build that just makes her even more S+ in an indirect way. You spend less time in useless werewolf form and more time bola'ing now
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Thank fuck Yoshi doesn't read this shit general.
Can't go 4 posts without seeing the most retarded take you've ever had the displeasure of reading
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>>572533848
buff mcginnis fag
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>>572533848
This post was made by an overshitter or a marvel niggers player.
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>>572533938
Never played Marvel Rivals and I played Overwatch on release for a month and then never again
So no, cope.
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unstable rift sucks
this is going to get changed and slightly reworked for weeks just like urn will continue to be now that it cant walk back to its spawn point.
expect one to be removed soon too because they can only manage balancing one objective
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>blatantly just copying marvel rivals with global ult cooldown nerf
how pathetic
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>>572534007
so the overshitter player part was right.
Go get raped nigger
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>>572534059
She's looking at Big Blue Cock (BBC) porn btw
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>>572534173
Concession accepted
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>>572534059
what ugly game is this sloppa from?
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>>572534347
deadlock
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>>572533337
She was the worst hero in the game last patch and even worse now lmao
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I've taken the trollpill. I intentionally throw the game at pivotal points to farm the rage from my team. Game is in the worst spot its ever been so why not have a little fun and ruin other people's games?
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i afk if we dont have a 10k lead by 10 minutes because its a eomm assigned loss
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>>572534395
that character is not from deadlock, try again
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>>572534747
TRVKE
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There is so many larpers that dont even play the game in this general holy shit.
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>>572534926
>t. tankbuster boughteder
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Where are the Silver buffs? I read through the patch notes but there weren't any
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>updated the game
>played one game then closed it
>about to launch it again
>updating again
wat
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>>572534747
Seeker mindset
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I still hard focus every holliday I see
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i saw they had a tank character so i bought tankbuster why did i lose
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Worst part of this update is not being able to ping the rift and having to manually type about it every match because people don't read patch notes.
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>>572532398
>>572532606
>and she was... s tier on last vegas tier list...

...


>>572180060
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/572302675/#q572384574
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571428465/#q571499819
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571317075/#q571385091
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571207109/#q571209208
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/570829712/#q570879532
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/570529179/#q570606017
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/570271402/#q570301835
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/569897660/#q569913479
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/567893167/#q567899697
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/566563897/#q566622692
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/566563897/#q566625521
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/566563897/#q566620884
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/566371508/#q566466282
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/566077171/#q566087141
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/565707507/#q565714352
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/565620005/#q565684548
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/562997326/#q563008032

TELL THAT TO THESE RETARDS. I'M TIRED OF THE SILVER S TIER LARP. DO NOT MEMORYHOLE THIS SHIT ISTG
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY FUCKING COMEDY CENTRAL BITS AND GAGS FOR "S++TIER SILVER" I HAD TO GO THROUGH? ON THIS FUCKING GEN?? IT'S LIKE HEARING THE SAME FUCKING JOKE 10 TIMES EVERY 2 SECONDS

IT WAS NEVER FUNNY. IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE FUNNY. SHE WAS ALWAYS. **ALWAYS** MID-TIER AT BEST. THE PROS THAT PUSH HER UP TO S TIER ARE GENUINELY DOING SOME MK ULTRA PSYOP SHIT.
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>>572534059
Overwatch did it first years ago lil cus
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/ourguy/ eido said this patch is super fun and Mina is S tier now. We're so back bros.
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Why aren't they gutting fucking gun warden already? Another slap on the wrist, every patch is just "-0.1% warden gun damage" and same goes for pocket, still the most gamebreaking bullshit cannons in the game because these nothingburger "nerfs" dont do fucking shit.
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>>572534758
Minecraft story mode edition
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>>572535145
um the downplayers are the larp though havent you seen the latest tier list? do you not have hands just hit the combo and you deal almost as much damage to a single hero that you could teal to multiple with a single aoe spell if you picked B tier hero
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>>572535145
Most mentally stable silvertranny
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For Drifter do all the melee items proc off of Rend at full effect or only at 55% heavy melee?
Pic unrelated
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>>572522614
We have you now!
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>>572535532
yo he kinda movin'
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>>572535145
I honestly can't tell if you love Silver or hate her from this post
Either way, look at this. It should make you feel better
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>>572535503
Silvertrannies are the ones that pretend she's not dogshit though
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>being able to auto win duels while 20k below net worth is le fair and f tier actually

never change silvertroons kek lmao
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>>572535662
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>>572535532
yo he kinda schmovin'
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Mina actually feels so good right now, makes this patch a lot more fun for me.
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>>572535662
https://files.catbox.moe/jsk0fx.mp4
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>>572532398
True, exclusively SSSSS+ tier.
(she has never ever been anything less than this and any buffs she has received are a result of her mentally retarded playerbase successfully gaslighting Yoshi into ignoring her top level results)

>>572535145
HRT moodswing rage, as expected of a Silverberg
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OPINION: Talon moves too fast in the air now. I don't like it.
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>>572535014
Tankbuster is bad?
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>>572536356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhOqSclr05k
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>>572535615
Hello, retard anon from Bizarro Earth.

>>572535858
It actually has. Silverbergs larping as weak has successfully gotten Silver, the strongest character in the game in every patch, multiple buffs.
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>>572536492
Why are you still perpetuating this lie? It's not fun, it's not a meme, it's just you being a dumb kike.
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>if I keep linking to my goytube surely I will win the argument AND get free views!
Not even hovering your links, Rabbi Silverberg. You're as fraudulent and Zionist as your character.
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>>572536440
>AI "music"
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>b-but... silver is REALLY s-tier!!!! it's not... le joke!!

https://files.catbox.moe/dha4nd.mp4
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>>572535662
>be bad
>lose to f tier hero
>UM ITS ACUTALLY LE S TIER
Classic silvertranny
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>>572536607
>n-n-no u!
Shalom, Rabbi. You must really be desperate if that's the best pilpul you can muster. Scamper off to your discord to formulate your next narrative, this one has failed.
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>>572535301
i dont care what a hapa mongrel meta abuser has to say actually
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>>572520502
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>>572536383
Be thankful the downtime of his flight was doubled
(FOUR WHOLE SECONDS HE'S VULNERABLE!!!!!!!!)
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>>572536771
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>>572535145
The meme of pretending silver isn't dogshit isn't funny and has never been funny
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>>572527190
i'm still pissed they didn't go for the "able to throw the urn like a football" idea some random retard on youtube had
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>>572524784
rate my build gng
extra charge + T2 Knives in lane is a crazy powerspike since enemies dont expect that amount of knives plus they ricochet on max rage.
I struggle with sustain still though, do you still go mystic regeneration?
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>>572537536
You should have to drop it and kick it instead like in aussie rules footy
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>Silver wars are back on the menu
It's nice to see /dlg/ alive again, for however long it lasts
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>>572535145
uh oh troony having a melty!
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>rem a better summoner than graves
whats the point of graves anymore lol
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after colonizing the summoner's rift a bunch of darkies fight for you... really makes you think
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> summoner's rift
So thats why this genral has been so bad lately the league niggers are here.
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>>572535145
>See joke posts
>Take them seriously
>Get mad
you're a fucking idiot kek
Silver was the case of Valve balancing for the 5% of players that could do good on her annihilating the 95% that was complete shit with her.
Silver was genuinely strong with how much damage slam fire shat out and if the silver actually knew how to maneuver you were dead if she popped wolf and you didn't already have a gross advantage over her.
Now slam fire damage got nerfed steadily over time and wolf form is now a normal ult now to appease the top 5% and for the bottom 95% she's worthless.
Silver was never good (for the bottom 95%) she'd never been bad (for the top 5%) either. Now she's a unapologetically shit yet still demands good aim, gamesense, and movement for not getting much out of it.
She needs a whole ass rework at this point.
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>>572538132
Just be thankful that HE isn't here
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>>572538182
>joke posts
Silver upplayers are genuinely that fucking stupid, anon.
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>>572538757
4 out of all of those posts i can see being serious
If you take
>play Silver she's SSSS+ tier
>bro silver is S tier though???
seriously you are a brain dead fucking idiot and it's no wonder this general is a shithole of alchemist opinions
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Lomeine (rank one) just silver in A tier
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i find listening to music while playing makes the game much more fun
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>>572538182
>rework
I wanna see a bounty ability for her
Something like BH ult, she already has the voice lines for it in the code
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>get venator on my team sixth time in a row
>sixth time in a row game is unplayable because m1 slot is filled with useless cripple hero
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Metro (the face of deadlock) says silver is S teir
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>>572539071
>>572539584
Who cares, the hero is dogshit. The stats don't lie.
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>>572528881
I can't. been saying since the first fucking screenshot a moba tps is inherently a flawed concept.
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i find masturbating to paige's feet while playing makes the game much more fun
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>>572539071
>put mokrill in C teir
Im not taking that list seriously
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So we're just not getting a major update until September, huh
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>>572539584
>Metro (the fa-
DNF.
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>Rem just went from C tier to D tier
>Shiv went from C to X
>Mo is now a C-
>Haze is now S+
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>>572540063
how is haze S+
ult time nerfed and curse nerfed
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its almost boring how easy it is to carry with viscous
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>>572540137
>ult curse
have you ever tried playing her not in the most degenerate way possible?
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>7 days ago tell the devs I liked the game when TTK was lower
>today's patch lowered healthpools across the board
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Okay, fags... Take a breather and realise it has been LESS than a day, less than twelve hours even, almost six at the time of posting. Some people (like me), haven't even woken up in our respective part of the world or started our day. So it is wild to wake up to people already saying shit like 'this is the worst thing to ever happen to the game' and as frequent as it has. We are in an alpha game, that we spent $0 on, and expect absurd levels of update/change to, at the drop of a hat. We are little rats in a box being tested to see how we respond when bits of cheese and poison are dropped in, and our box is changed. It isn't always going to be the cheese you chew on. So please, before you say your life is over, the game is fucked, and Valve are insane through a lengthy reddit post; breathe. It's all part of the process (as frustrating as it may get for you at times). You are absolutely entitled to hate the patch, but for the love of the Hidden King, please just give it a LITTLE more time before you explode. Please? Thank you, fags.
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Really, what is the point of Silver now? The hero does literally nothing
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>Street Brawl: Increased item randomness a bit
What does this mean?
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>>572540494
>Really, what is the point of Silver now? The hero does literally nothing
There isn't one. She needs to switch career and become a homebound housewife (happy mother of four)
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>>572540625
Items are only 40% random
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>>572540314
My retard teammates will still go punch Viscous
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>>572540625
You're less likely to get items that are specifically good on your hero now
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>>572540063
>>Haze is now S+
This hero has literally never not been S+
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Can I go back to maining Drifter without it being griefing?
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>>572540728
Don't blame them for doing that, it's the most fun way to play Viscous.
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>>572540481
you are right anon - its also crazy how people cry about having to wait for a major patch but this patch alone is huge in its meta changes. My main shvi got basically reworked and we got a whole new main objective.
But i guess this is how it
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>>572540923
>He's not playing support Drifter
Uh oh ...
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i saw they had a heal character so i bought healbane why did i lose
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>>572531032
yoshi lucked out by making every patch too fucking dense for 90% of the playerbase to properly gauge (despite the vast, vast majority of the changes being complete fluff nothingburger number pushes) but this approach doesn't work on deadlock because it both doesn't have enough systems to properly fool the playerbase and because it is intrinsically a more mechanics-first game. you can't tell people to enjoy eating here shit because "you just don't know how to play" because people play these games cause it feels good, as opposed to mobas where it's more brainy.

tl:dr icefrog's approach simply doesn't work on a hero shooter.
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>>572541280
Spam mokrill
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this tranny is posting deadlock fanfic oh my god bro
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sooo that person that said no major update until Post TI was not joking eh
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>>572541514
This is a moba.
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>travel range
what does this mean? how far you can toss the book before it lands, or how long it stretches after it lands?
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>>572540314
that faggot with TTV in his name, checked the vod and he quit the game because he was on his smurf, dw i found their steam & reported it lol with the timestamp
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Just remove Shiv and Silver at this point
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>>572541635
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>>572540481
>This is the worst thing that has happened to deadlock ever. The game is dead.
>This is the worst thing that has happened to deadlock ever. The game is dead.
>This is the worst thing that has happened to deadlock ever. The game is dead.
>This is the worst thing that has happened to deadlock ever. The game is dead.
Every SINGLE FUCKING PATCH
This is why generals for comp pvp games always fucking suck. It's just niggers whining about balance.
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This is the worst thing that has happened to deadlock ever. The game is dead.
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>>572541873
mm you're right I never thought about it like that.
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>what if we made a good game
>but then every patch we made it worse
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This is the best thing that has happened to deadlock ever.
The game is saved.
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great thread deadtards.
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>>572541936
I do wonder however if the doomposting was always this bad before the March update. People pin it on the March update being the catalyst for the game's downward spiral, but the game already had a fucked-up gun meta in December of 2025 before the OGNB update happened. I've just been coping with all of the recent urn changes with, 'it's just growing pains, it'll pass'. I hope it really does.
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Whatever elo does spirit items only mokrill stop working?
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>>572542152
Reductio ad absurdum.
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>>572542419
It doesn't
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yoshi is just vibe coding this without spending money on ai to prompt, blame the guy who showed him the match maker code via ai.
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>>572542419
Night Shift 7
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What elo does never team fighting and only pushing lanes stop working?
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We have you now.
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>did very little about Warden
>did nothing about Victor
retarded meta, get me out of this god forsaken hellhole
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>>572542670
rook inside of youh assahhole...
and dere you weel feind da ansuh.
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>Victor
Just buy toxic bullets or healbane
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>>572542983
>>Victor
>Just buy toxi-
DNF
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>dogshit heroes get nerfed
>op heroes get nothing or get buffed (???)
Why are they listening to a clique of disingenuous trannies with obvious preferences for what they want buffed/nerfed instead of looking at the statistics?
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>>572540481
>>572541936
Every single fucking patch buffs gunshit and m1gger characters. It's not a coincidence that the majority fucking hate these patches when that happens every time.
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im calling the matchmaking update on 20th july.
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>Slice 'N Dice doesn't proc Mystic Reverb anymore
You've gotta be fucking shitting me.
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I like these updates. They're cool. I play until I stop having fun and then stop playing until the next update. No other MOBA is experimenting as hard as this and I appreciate that.
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>>572543239
New Shiv is even more OP than old Shiv
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>>572542983
i bought decay, but my team is retarded sadly
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>Mirage escapes another patch scot free
Djinnbrothers how much longer before Yoshi decides to gut him?
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Street Brawl would be better if instead of guardian, guardian, walker, it was guardian, walker, patron (without shrines).
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>>572543419
The Djinn wouldn't allow harm on us, we're safe
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Victor shouldn't get a 2 minute cooldown reduction on his ult as a T3. Boom I fixed the character
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> Haven't played in two weeks
> See new patch
> Gee I wonder if they finally nerfed Victor so he's not a zero-counter pick or ban
> Nope they didn't touch him
> But they nerfed Geist more, just because
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>he thinks the patch "nerfed" shiv
low elo self report
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>>572543549
Incorrect. Victor needs the following nerfs:

- Lifesteal coefficient set back to 0.70x
- Ult starts at 30% HP recovery
- T3 boosts it to 50% HP recovery

He is now balanced.
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>>572542338
Look at the comic here >>572541098

This shit has been going on since probably before you were born.
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Is the game really getting worse?
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>Victor is op
Yep its shitlow hours
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>>572543932
victor needs to become trans so reddit will defend him instead of hate him, like pocket
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>>572543545
Splendid.
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>>572544145
>the last hook
Bebop used to be so bullshit lmao
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>>572544145
This patch is actually a redemption. It's unironically the first patch I've liked since the march one.

>Level cap from 40k to 48k
My favorite change. The cap being 40k (down from 50k) was so fucking stupid.
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Remember, late 2026 open beta or the game dies
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>>572544209
Victor has been OP for a very long time.
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Is this statue new, or am I going schizo?
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Is this statue new, or am I going schizo?
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>>572519791
>Good
>Easy
>Annoying to fight
You can only have 2 Gravesfag.
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>>572519791
Graves, regardless of how good or bad she is, just isn't fun to play against. Even when she has been shit-tier she still isn't enjoyable to fight at all. Then again, like half the cast in the game has this issue.
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>>572544491
>Level cap from 40k to 48k
That and global ult cd increase, it's so nice not have to worry about a character's bullshit ult in every single interaction with them.
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>>572545049
You're losing it, I'm afraid
>>572545149
I'm losing it in her, I'm afraid
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i want to have sex with victor so bad i missed being ivy healslut very much its so fun i should try drawing them fucking one day
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Who is the lebron of deadlock?
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Kelvin basically went untouched for 5 straight patches, can't wait until people start to clue up on how busted he is
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>massive patch
>thread is dead
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>>572545939
Hard countered by dynamo.
Getting knocked up off your ice path is ridiculous, let alone having less of an ult
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I've had ZERO teams try to contest the rift today. Like what they fuck are these niggers doing, is the playerbase this retarded? Did the streamers not update these NPCs firmware?
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>>572546284
>another gunslop buffing patch
of course the game will stay dead
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>"What a fucking vibe kill dude. Ughhh, of cour- it's- it's- it's to a... chuckle fucks -- ETTRICK FUCKING FARMER PIECE OF SHIT! ... Ettrick fucking farmer! ALL you do is the same bullshit, because you HAVE EVERYTHING. Your character HAS EVERYTHING, and they CATER to you! They change the rules for you! to make you win more often! 'Oh, it's not good enough Let's make his 4 immune to sleep! Oh, it's not good enough! Let's give him fucking Lightning Ball more charge buffs! Oh, it's not good enough! Let's give him Storm Cloud movement buffs! Oh, it's not good enough!' -- Let's GIVE HIM FUCKING EVERYTHING HE NEEDS! ... And he is the cool character, of course. Fucking cunt, bitch, fucking dumbass, top tier, FUCK! PRIVILEGED fucking character, and your mains COMPLAIN! SOMEHOW, they complain! About what? Mo? God forbid! About what? The Baroness? Oh, JUST STAY OUT OF DOORMAN’S RANGE, YOU DUMB CUNT! That's all you fucking need! You have some of the best farming in the game! You have some of the best CC! You have 19 different offensive moves! You don't have to do anything! EXCEPT WIN!"
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>>572546414
most people don't even read the patch notes which means most of the playerbase is retarded and un-informed
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>>572545824
what happened to your bf victor player?
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>>572546284
most people who actually want to have fun in a game instead of hopelessly fighting for it have already jumped ship someplace else
People wised up, and discovered how terribly unfun it was to play this game after they took a break anf played something else for a change.
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>>572546284
noone cares until new content and the numbers will shoot back up to where they were before and everyone will forget about it
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>>572546414
What rank roughly? I wouldn't be surprised if below archon they don't even read the patch notes
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>>572546497
>>572546941
Ascendant. I've typed/commed every single rift but my team doesn't even budge. I've told them "hey guys rift is spawning on yellow we should push waves and then posture." Zero response they aimlessly run around the jungle while the enemy team all postures for rift. Even when it spawns my team ignores it like they have ZERO clue what the hell it is.
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>>572546580
hes not my bf i just met him in soloq and decided to add him since he sent a request while i was a little drunk
if i had a boyfriend that played victor i'd probably masturbate while playing, alas im too much of a chud to make new friends
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>>572541936
Yeah and every patch the game loses players. I don't expect it'll meaningfully recover the lost players until the next major content release here in like 3-4 months (at best).
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The game is still in a bad spot I think. They never figured out what type of game Deadlock was going to be

>it's an alpha

2 years later and guns have never been allowed to stay good for long. Ok, this isn't quake, sure. It's a moba right? Well there's barely any map strategy. You cannot push a tower like you can in Dota, everyone can be everywhere
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>>572546284
almost like the "epic crazy patch that totally changes the game" is just another shade of the retarded forced fight every 6 to 8 minutes, except now it's fucking random
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>>572543741
>But they nerfed Geist
Where?
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Falling super far down in rank is agony
I'm going like 5/0 in lane and still somehow losing
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>"IT'S ALL OVER! ... Once I buy Lifestrike, Snatch, Point Blank, Crushing Fists, that is! Then, IT'S ALL OVER!!! ... When the match'll be over!"
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>>572547691
kek
i know everybody is crying and it really feels very hard to survive late game but its fun having the build and playstyle being blown right open on shiv rn trying out a new build path every game peak
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>>572547665
Just play farmslop for 30 minutes and lanejanny all 3 lanes but also be there for every teamfight bro
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>>572547565
It's not much of a MOBA, but it's also not much of a hero shooter.
For right now it's some Frankenstein, jack-of-all trades MOBA game where it only really excels at being a hero shooter, but also punishes you for mindlessly playing it like a hero shooter instead of treating it like a MOBA.
Everything else besides teamfights is either boring or tedious. But, instead of making the tedious parts fun, they're just making everything become centered around teamfights instead. I don't like the direction where the game is headed, because it just seems like they're more concerned with band-aid changes than actually addressing the underlying core problems with the gameplay loop.
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>>572547348
Yeah because the only reason to play the game is to play or rank up. There's ZERO player retention and valve has no interest in adding any yet because Valve sees us as a glorified beta test. Which it is despite the attitude, the playercount, etc...
Most people aren't even bothered to get a fucking invite right now. If valve really wanted player counts and player retention they'd just boot DL into open playtest instead of chain-invites.
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>>572541582
it's a failure of a moba hero shooter hybrid
to say deadlock is a moba it's to say HOTS also was, and so is league btw. so much for dotard privilege
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soon, the confluence demands it.
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Deadlock should've been a top-down game instead of a third person shooter
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>>572547565
>2 years later and guns have never been allowed to stay good for long
>when every thread someone complains about m1ggers
lol
lmao even
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Valve fucked up not clamping down on the beta because now all the loser neets already burnt out on the game after 500 hours before they could spend money on it.
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>>572548203
The current Dota event is leading up to her getting added to Deadlock
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>they turned shiv into a melee hero and brought ultbot shiv back
Such bullshit
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>>572546873
>the numbers will shoot back up to where they were before
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>got the moba macro aspect down
>dont know when and how to fight
Playing a m1gger, do I just have to play like a pussy and 1v1 when I know for sure no one else will join in? Can't play aggresive since their team fucks me up once they show up and I don't want to feed.
Most of the time I end up with 1 to 1 k/d.
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I hate this thread.
You can have spirit dominate 90% of the match but when in the last 10% of the match gun scales past it in single target damage, /dlg/ loses their goddamn minds.
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>>572546873
and then the numbers will go back down
because the game's current meta is not sustainable in the slightest
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> Shiv: Killing Blow executing a hero now instantly fills the rage bar
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>>572548436
kino show
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The fact heroes certain heroes can outscale your team is fucking dumb.
if thats the case then put in an FF button for fucks sakes.
It's been a fucking hour, im tired of this bullshit.
Also remove bebop, he's useless.
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>>572548359
That's me
>I've played 2k hours in the past year and am just completely through with the game especially since my main (Shiv) gets constantly nerfed/reworked
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>>572548640
not really. they could've effectively told the story of season 1 in 3 episodes with very, VERY little lost in translation. not to mention it ends on the stupidest way possible just because even the network thought it'd be too boring otherwise.

the negro was fun though
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>>572548436
yeah, remember when the game was ""'dead""" and "would never go over 100k again" before old gods? retard
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might just wait for the game to release
but I have a certain, real FOMO where the game might actually be doa, and that this beta, alpha time is all we're gonna get to really play it before people start logging off
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>>572548564
People just want to complain. It's insane. People just cannot help but complain.
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>>572548807
It should die.
garbage ass game
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>>572548564
It's crazy how people made tribe vs tribe shit of fucking damage types.
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>>572548807
It lost like 8,000 players the moment Deltarune ch. 5 came out
even the trannies are itching to play something else
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>>572548826
If you don't play now you will never reach high rank
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I want my time back yoshi nigger
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>>572549042
doalock refuses
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>>572548807
and look at how we're doing now!
stop coping
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>NERFED? BRING ME THE SKULLS OF THE NON-BELIEVERS!
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thank you for the callico buffs yoshi
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>>572549238
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I think some of you guys are genuinely better off not playing this game anymore.
If it's not fun, why bother? Uninstall and go try some other games.
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>>572549524
i purposely throw to grief people now for fun
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>>572549524
I can't imagine it'd be good for the daughter's mental health to see her brother's dog dick once in a while
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>>572549524
I'm going to keep tilt queueing until I figure out why I either lose horribly as Yamato or get MVP
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Who is the Haze voice actor
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>>572547221
that's just how games work bro, give it a couple days and you'll see more people willing to do it because they realize this new objective has to be done to snowball harder
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>over 1.5k games on viscous
>negative wr, oracle
https://tracklock.gg/players/346315924
how are people this mentally ill
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>>572549524
>Uninstall and go try some other games.
I did that, I'm just here to shitpost
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>>572549279
I've been feasting today too anon almost up to archon
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>>572549524
Like what? I'm not gonna play GTA slop, what else is there worth playing right now?

I browse my Steam library and see the 5 games I bought last week and boot up Deadlock for some Brawl
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>>572549117
read the reply chain and try to keep up ranjesh, I accept your concession tho
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>>572549903
account looks normal af did he make you have a melty during a match?
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>>572547903
If I farm, my team gets themselves killed in some retarded 4v6 and they feed the Haze
If I fight, I fall behind on souls because I keep getting sucked into my team's stupid fights
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>>572540481
>>572541936
>>572547348
people enjoying the game arent posting here right after patch drops they're playing
>>572548161
holy shit nigga how about playing the game cause it's fun what is wrong with you
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>>572549524
I'm playing dota until they release a patch that isn't trash
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>>572550514
I didn't imply playing to play is a bad thing anon. Just that the masses love their skinnerboxes.
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>>572526668
>separate ranked/unranked modes
is this not already the case with the competitive matchmaking toggle?
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>>572550725
All that toggle does is try to match you with other people that have the toggle on.
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>>572550725
>is this not already the case with the competitive matchmaking toggle?
does nothing
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how is nobody talking about this
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>>572550724
True, they need their exp grind for bing bing wahoos to unlock in the dingaling pass
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>>572551058
I want my exp grind for bing bing wahoos to unlock in the dingaling pass...
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>>572551053
It's a pretty big deal, now late game you just get shit tons of cash it's pretty stupid. And it makes the boon change a wash.

Not sure why kills are discouraged, i guess to prevent snowball deathball meta
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>>572551053
It's not really that big news.
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>silent
>introverted
>can't carry
>q "extra competitive"
>get matched with exactly the same failures at life as you
what did you expect?
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>>572551206
Thank you for your input ritualist bro.
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>>572551237
How do I unsubscribe from your blog?
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ivy is so cute and so is viscous
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>>572551053
but they didnt reduce how fast you level up though!
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>>572551359
So what were you going to tell the class about how big a deal it actually is, definitely eternus bro? You wanted people to talk about it, you start
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>>572551616
It's a decent nerf to sidelaners.
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>>572549524
this might surprise you but this sort of game does not and has never actually have a mayority of active players that enjoy the experience of playing it
ask any moba player if they have fun playing their designated game
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>>572551475
it's your blog thoughbeit?
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I LOVE SNOWBALLING
I LOVE GETTING FUCKED FOR FORTY MINUTES BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE LOST THEIR LANE
I LOVE LOSING EIGHT FUCKING RANKS BECAUSE OF OTHER PEOPLE
LET'S ADD MORE OBJECTIVES THAT LET WINNERS WIN HARDER BUT NOT ACTUALLY FINISH THEIR FUCKING GAMES
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>>572551053
the ratio between souls from camps and waves is definitely more even now right?
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>>572551923
im a dog
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>radiant regen lifesteal spellslinger paige is meta now
This game is fucking dead.
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>snowball
>40 minutes
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Why is the game more snowbally now? I haven't had a chance to try the new patch
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>>572552191
I don't see how that's my problem
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>>572552191
So a dog with a blog?
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If you queue with friends, you're both niggers and CHEATING
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>>572552302
>meta
>wins in my low alchemist lobby's

sure buddy
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>>572552615
ayo dis honkey white boy lost to us hahahaha
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What are we smoking?
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>Nerf this!
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I think this is the patch that's finally dogshit enough to make me stop playing for a while. Silver is legitimately unplayable right now.
>>572552421
They basically have both koth urn and old urn in the game simultaneously with both giving the same amount of souls as the individual urn did and a lot of the time they drop off in the same lane. Because of that if you ever get advantage (or just have the better ults for kothslop) you can get a 15k soul spike in under a minute which very quickly gets into unwinnably large soul diff territory
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>>572552961
>Silver is legitimately unplayable right now
lol
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I really need to rape a fucking game right now
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Just picked Silver.
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So after playing three matches on the new patch i noticed the following:

>New urn is kinda nice, its a personal objective thing and since the person carrying it isn't reveled on the minimap you can sneak it a bit, its good for roamer type characters or characters who just want to get into fights in general
>The first rift is kind of broken. In fact i think this might get patched in a few days. If you get the first rift its extremely easy to just snowball it into a walker because the void creeps that spawn are absurdly strong. You win the teamfight around the rift meaning some of them are bound to be dead, and just run down the walker with the void creeps for a big mid game advantage
>Shiv might actually be more broken now, somehow? I haven't played him yet but he has dominated in all games i played. The melee build deals so much fucking damage with the dash
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>>572552961
>make leveling slower
>don't buff silver, the hero that literally can't farm yet requires a level advantage to do anything
The devs have no idea what they're doing.
>inb4 some silvertranny pretends you can 1v1 people 10k networth above you
Maybe the scary werewolf can 1v1 you, but against anyone that's not retarded she does nothing.
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>>572552920
abrams ult animation used to be different?
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>>572552902
>ballistic enhancement
>brs
thanks to these fools the true express shot build will remain underground at 90% winrate...
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>>572553392
speaking of which who even uses ballistic enchantment? I know Venator with his grenades but it seems like thats it
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>>572551237
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5 games in a row shiv on my team
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>Murder the shit out of Victor
>His ult pops
>Dash jump out
>Their Paige vortex webs me back in
>Get back up from stun and rip her face off before leaping out
Nerf Silver
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>>572553290
>Maybe the scary werewolf can 1v1 you, but against anyone that's not retarded she does nothing.
I've been forcing myself to narrow my roster down to just Silver and Yamato and I've realized that both of those characters disproportionately punish retards who keep chain feeding them, and of course those retards blame the character instead of themselves.
Like, the best strat on both is to figure out who's the feeding retard on the enemy team and just bait him on repeat into feeding you
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>>572550825
>>572550831
does it just drop that if the queue goes on too long? would explain my wildly different lobbies.
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>>572552920
I honestly miss the old lighting so much
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I need to get out of seeker nigger hell holy fuck
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>>572554013
How does one have taste this shit
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>>572553982
Yup, and there are very few people with it on so it does nothing the majority of the time.
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Legendary items should be in every mode
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>>572543419
Is Mirage made of sand?
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>billy nerfed
>silver still shit
Won't be playing this patch.
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so tired of gun meta
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They should add a night/day cycle.
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>i check statlocker every match
>i care about my fake elo
>i blame my team everygame
>i play silver
this general summed up in five lines
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>>572554756
Only if they're allocated randomly
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>>572555036
And Silver could be human during the day and werewolf during the night
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>>572548353
As if the whiny retards in this thread are any real indication of what's good
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>>572555095
which one are you
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>>572555036
and drifter should've been the deadcock version of niggerstalker
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>>572551053
I guess that's why I got 13k souls out of nowhere
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statlocker added a shop you can buy points in lmao
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>>572555836
why would anyone do that
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>>572555836
you also can earn free points playing matches - they're going to try to compete with ste*m and gab* newel...
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>>572556092
didnt everybody use this
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>>572555836
isn't that technically profiting from the game?
valve can sue them...
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Thoughts on increasing jungle bounties when farming on the enemies side to encourage riskier plays?
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>>572556408
nope you may remember it that way but we often remember things completely wrong
your memory WANTS to believe it was massivly bought, but revives didnt matter back then that much beside a niche couple heros.
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>>572556528
faceit profits from the game too
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>>572556528
no?
they just want the game data it literally says right there that you can't buy points
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>your dota 2 is out of date
FUCK OFF
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>>572556693
congrats youre the only person that reads i intentionally made all of that up to stir controversy because i am bored and you outplayed me calling out the text
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>>572556907
are you implying free currency isn't profit?
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explain to me how this is anything but a shiv buff. I'm seeing people act like he just got removed from the game entirely
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>>572557138
his main source of healing is slice and dicing through groups of enemies. now since it does melee damage it doesn't work with radiant regen and melee lifesteal is far inferior

ult buffs aren't good enough, his ult was barely used as an execute and was used as an extra dash most of the time
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Why is every billy player legitimately retarded
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>>572556528
Me when you niggas can't read.
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>>572557138
>lost his main source of spirit damage
>no spirit = no sustain
>no synergy between his 1 and 2 anymore since you build melee
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>>572515220
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>>572557353
i can tell youre a femboy based on the heros you play
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>>572557397
go be a faggot somewhere else
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>>572557236
because billy is just button mash til you win. literally no skill invovled to get a ton of value because he has great stats
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>>572557270
i can read it was bait and you fell for it
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I'm Phantom 3, tried playing Shiv (character i'm total dogshit at) and the game put me in a joke ass lobby, i thought it was going to be emissary but after the game it was Oracle 2. There were multiple people with no green 4.8k investment 20 minutes into the game, there was a full gun holiday, a seven with bottom net worth. It this shit was Oracle 2 i have trouble even imagining what the fuck the lower ranks look like. Thank fuck there's going to be a big mm/rank update
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>>572557778
initiate - phantom are the same skill level because new accounts can get into phantom if they pair up
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>guy in game today had a breakdown and started crying because his friend died earlier this week after our venator was flaming him
please keep it to yourself
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>>572557981
Did you clip it
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>>572558042
nah i can barely run this game can't run anything else with it unfortunately
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>Three retards can't stop a Mina from soloing the patron
Why did they buff this piece of shit
Why can't I carry these absolute fucking morons
I'm in fucking distress I can't take this shit any more
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>>572558094
>le chink of 3k dps (also silences haha)
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>>572557778
If you're in tomtom 3 still you haven't beaten the game
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>>572556675
some t2 camps are pretty free to steal and cultists is good enough already
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still waiting for the true mina buff where she becomes white
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>>572558909
cute feet
we need more feet heroes



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