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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER>THAN HE WHO DENIES>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?">YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?">"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?">ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
https://files.catbox.moe/finiu0.mp4
Be a little afraid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ITIZtRayQ
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>>572442698Alphys...
>>572442698now we just need the hairy mew mew mod
You will have a much, much better chance at predicting the Knight accurately when you abandon the idea that it's someone trying to save/find/revive DessWhether this means it's Dess, I don't know. But it's not someone trying to help her
>>572442808Okay Toby. You know if you'd actually given anything to work with the next year this chapter people might be able to sort out your vagueposting king nonsense.
>>572442754why do people always draw fat tits and asses dripping in sweathave these people never been sweaty and felt how sticky and gross and terrible it is
https://files.catbox.moe/si271v.webm
i think we need to accept the very real possibility of gasterknight
>>572442942looks like chapter 1 era theories are back on the menu boys
>>572442942https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfBhIM5tb490% of players finally unmasking the Knight.
The knight is yoshi from yoshi's island which sunk into hell and now yoshi is coming back to the surface to fuck the undertale characters in the ass one by one
i think we need to accept the very real possibility of normalknight
>>572443042Rory Dead and Loving It!
>>572442730Deltarune if it was good
>Abandoned weird route>Chapter 6, Noelle goes to the dark world>"HOLY SHIT IT WASN'T A DREAM I KILLED BERDLY AND KRIS MINDRAPED ME INTO DOING IT"How could the plot possibly continue after this?
>>572442754
YOOOOOOOOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87K5Uh3AML0
>>572443152Toby ignores it and you get a crossed-out pacifist ending
>>572443161Anon was then rushed to the hospital and died of 4rd degree burns on his crotchHis last words before he flatlined seemed to be "worth it..."
>>572443152>"KRIS MINDRAPED ME INTO KILLING THAT FUCKASS BURD">...>.........>
>>572442876NTA, but I expect a bunch of website stuff using Asgore's notes as a source for info
I'm surprised Nexus is letting this stay up.Might be good for my next run of the game to finally use this mod.
>>572443054normal npc is already creepy without being a knight, he does not need a knight mantle
>>572443152She was into it. She's not gonna talk.
>>572443152Nah, we know she grows a spine if you abandon Ch 5 weird route.
Papyrus' reveal better be him telling Sans that he should be ashamed of himself for teasing Kris about boning his Mom.Because that's really fucked up to do to someone from a broken home.
>>572443152Noelle loses it and kills everyone, including Kris. Black screen and sad music plays. Game suggests to start over from Chapter 2.
>>572443152Double triple giga gaslit into thinking it was a dream/delusion and she never speaks about it again
>>572443278She knows she killed birdley and she enjoyed it
>>572443152If the default answer for any route is Noelle getting pissed off and freaking out, then this doesn't change much, considering Berdly still lives in all of the Aborted Weird Route variations (he's only in a coma.)The only thing that would change this is Aborted Ch5 by drowning, where Noelle has no reason to freak out and the plot would be mangled.
is normalnpc posting the "kris where the fuck are we" and "asgore driving his car into dess" hip FOTM meme equivalent for this chapter or what would (You) nominate as a better candidate
>>572443152It doesn't. The Sans Mercy version of Dog Song plays, Gaster laughs at you in all caps and you get kicked to the title screen if you froze Berdly. Fortunately you can get the ThornRing without freezing him though
>>572442924The girl with the biggest tits I've ever held is also the one who hates sweating the most. Probably connected
>>572443438>restock toriels fridge and her wombPapyrus would congratulate his brother
>>572443417That's for abandoning 4 right? She's still in a "it was a dream" stage at that point
Just finished chapter 5 and haven't been here since it dropped. What's everyone reception to it been like? For me:>Story was mediocre but the gameplay section was the most fun it ever was>weird route being cut is bullshit but the parts we got were good>Flowery and a few of the other flowers were nice, but Flowery carried>Did we always knew Susie lived in school?Those were about the only things of note. There's a surprisingly little amount of story for chapter 5. You'd think this would be the turning point where the reveals start dropping. It's never a good sign when it's saved for the end. It typically means the overarching story isn't big enough for such a big series.
I'm insanely happy that Noelle says Kris and not the unfunny pun name I inputted all the way back in 2018.
Anyone know of a good archiver that goes back beyond 2019? I'm trying to find a non-con comic featuring asgore I posted about in these threads once and I'm gonna skim each and every thread imaginable.
>>572442924you'd be surprised by the amount of people who are into sweat
>>572443493>The only thing that would change this is Aborted Ch5 by drowning, where Noelle has no reason to freak out and the plot would be mangled.I would kill for the chapter to just be filled with her weirdly sticking near us during whatever darkworld we're getting plucked into next, bonus if she's still wearing the thornring
>>572443474Man there is SO MUCH dessknight artwork that's going to be completely invalidated. I wonder how you feel about that if you're Toby
>>572443535Susie has an actual house, it’s the apartments. She just doesn’t want to go back
>>572443535Also it felt like Flowery didn't like Kris all that much.
I can't believe there are only two chapters left. I want for each chapter we have 20 secret bosses each exponentially harder, Mew Mew and Gerson were too easy.
>>572443493>considering Berdly still livesHis SOUL was frozen to death. It does not matter if his vessel lives, Berdly himself is dead.
>>572442924gives you some detail to drawsometimes it's good to represent nervousnesssometimes it gives you an "excuse" to make an outfit revealing (she's sweaty because it's a hot day which is why she isn't wearing much)some people like sweat and the people who don't like it aren't going to not-like a lewd drawing over it
>>572443649Mew Mew was perfect difficulty for me. Gerson was a little easy, yeah.
Anyone else been here since Undertale's release? Was thinking about the guy who posted about castrating Asriel hundreds of times a day
>>572443535>weird route being cut is bullshit but the parts we got were goodI honestly was fine with this, the 10 mins we got of WR were so fucking powerful to me I still prefer them over the multi-hour normal chapter. >>572443552>Didn't use your own nameYou're gonna regret that.
>>572443643It isn't that he dislikes him, but he doesn't trust him considering he created a dark world in the flower king.
>>572443535>>Did we always knew Susie lived in school?She slept there between Chapter 4 and 5 as well, you find her hair in your bed.Examining her bed also reveals that sleeping in a Dark World bed is the same as sleeping on the floor. And we know Dark World food can't sustain you, either.It's meant to be a depressing reveal on top of the cuckoldry undertones.
>>572443636Oh I see, she's succumbed. Makes sense.When Flowery mentioned they should destroy Ralsei's castle, Susie snapped there a bit. With all the adventure and good things that came out of the dark world, she's probably the last person who wants it to end.
>>572443474yummy toriel tummy
>>572443535>>Did we always knew Susie lived in school?It's been a single day, dude.
>>572443495NormalNPCposting is too convoluted and actually related to the events of the game to be compared to thoseWhere The Fuck Are We and Driving In My Truck were memes even people who had never heard of a "Deltarune" were makingI'd nominate Pirate Gaster if it was a mainstream thing instead of a brand of shitposting localized entirely within this 40 person forum
>>572443535I've used the exact phrase "It was great, I really hated it" a lot.It felt like a very intentionally uncomfortable chapter where it counts. The Fun Gang all seem just a bit off, especially in the light world sections, and the ending with Susie fully giving in to avoiding reality (and Ralsei letting her) just gives me major vibes similar to letting a terminally ill child have as much ice cream as he wants. Nothing you can do to stop the inevitable so let's try to enjoy ourselves with what time we have left.It's going to be a long wait.
>>572443643He knows something is up but it feels he likes him more than Tenna? It feels genuine, like there is some respect between the two?He acts pissed either way if you counter or not.
>>572443738>she's probably the last person who wants it to end.She literally tells Gerson that her solution to a guaranteed bad ending is making sure the story never has an ending. Feel free to draw your own conclusions from what that means.
AIN'T IT NICE....
>>572443152She kills Catti and forces you back to WR
>>572443495you don't wanna hear this but the hip new meme is jarona
how does the festival change if berdly is crippled or snowgraved, but aborted in chapter 4?does he just not show up and that's it?
>>572443869LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD
>>572443710Mew mew ends too early, I want the fight to drag, to run out of items, squeeze every tp heal and use my revives (like the knight)
is there any art/greentext of the floradinn that gets tagged in to start the roaring knight battle getting dicked by the roaring knight
>>572443726Reasonable. Kris made the dark world>how?now he's trying to destroy it>why?If anything, Flowery was confused.
>>572443643He probably cares about Kris because they're Asgore's kid but he absolutely knows they're up to some shit
Aqua's Petal Dance!https://img4.gelbooru.com/images/eb/97/eb97d984a03b69bebeffb4db750d11bf.webm
>>572443306That would be so fucking cool and now I am preemptively mad that he's not gonna do this
>>572443535It's fighting with Chapter 4 as my favorite chapter. 5's got better gameplay and more interesting character dynamics, while 4 focuses on telling us more about the Holidays and the prophecy. Both chapters give us lots of interesting Ralsei and Susie stuff.
>>572443838More than Tenna? No shot, Tenna was filled with spite over being abandoned by the families over time but he still cared about them. Just had his shit twisted by everything and the chance to have it all back.
>>572443535It needed a better climax or another boss, more creepy stuff on regular route and the festival was bland, everything else was great and Flowery stole my heart (Heh).Most of my complaints I think go to the spirit of the chapter, its more of a breather set up chapter so I guess thats why it is like it is.LET ME GO BACK TO THE CASTLE TO DO THE MINIGAMES TOBY
>>572443989>gelbooru.comnope, not clicking on that
when can we expect more website shenanigans
>>572443643Flowery knows everything that's going on.He knows Kris's intentions and, obviously, that Kris opened the Flower fountain.He knows Ralsei's true form and his intentions as well.Same with Tenna. Remember Tenna's private conversation with Kris where we learn they have a deal.Only Queen and King are in the dark about Kris because they were made by the Knight's fountains, who vagueposted at them before fucking off.But in Chapters 3-5, Susie is the literal only person involved who has no fucking clue what's going on. Literally everyone else is fucking with her at this point.
>>572443839Imagine they finally solve the issue, then one second before Susie and Kris admit their feelings for each other, Toriel and Asgore come in with adoption papers for Susie ready.I'd be down with that, only if we put Kriselle back on the table as a possibility.
>>572443989I can’t stand porn loops
>>572444030>2G
>>572444001Tenna is terrified of Kris and his actions seem more to "please and appease" than a genuine relationship or opinion of Kris. Also Kris hates that fucking TV. Tenna doesn't understand Kris really.Flowery isn't here to kiss your feet, he doesn't hate Kris and he knows he loves his family but also knows Kris is plotting something.
sex with normalnpc
I'm low key trying to make a gaster cosplay that doesn't look like someone mashed Play-Doh on a paper plate. Is the meta just to make something 3d printable and just fucking paint it as a mask, and manually thread the strap?
>>572443306>it's all jumbled words like lost where the forest would grow>you have to decipher everything
>>572444172Whiteface and black-line or you are a coward
>>572444043>Same with Tenna. Remember Tenna's private conversation with Kris where we learn they have a deal.nta but what was this/where was this? I dont remember
I didn't beat Mike during my main save but you could still interact with them during chapter 5. Does anything changes if you do?The way saves work it seems if I go back to chapter 4 and use that save slot I will unbrick my save?
>>572443989I thought Gelbooru was down? Still doesn't load for me
Ten inch dick and balls Faggot ManIs waiting for the tip of his cockSucking his semen out without a planLike the every dailyCock that bothers the Faggot ManCould I do something to make him cumInside my little fag gay homo assSo he lived theFaggot Man, Faggot ManWith his dick in my assSo he standsTo fuck my wide assholeCause he canAss up high in the skyWith his cock over my eyesAin't it niceThe life forever forFaggots
>>572444172you should do a forgotten man cosplay insteadjust stay completely out of frame in pictures and don't go to cons
Look, Toby. I'm a reasonable anon. I'm willing to compromise. It doesn't have to be in Kris's room. I know the moss trophy takes up a lot of space. Just put the statue in the basketball court and let me kick the ball at it. That's all I ask of you.
god i wish he'd do that to me
>>572444229... HOW DID THINGS TURN OUT LIKE THIS...... KEEPING POOR TORIEL ALL LOCKED UP...IF ONLY HE HADN'T ABANDONED ME.MY OLD PARTNER...I WAS GONNA PUT HIM ON TV! MAKE HIM A STAR!I GAVE HIM EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING I HAD! MY LIFE ADVICE!ALL. HE HAD. TO DO. WAS TELL ME WHAT HIS LITTLE SECRET WAS.HIS SECRET TO BEING A BIG SHOT...IT TOOK A LITTLE SWEET TALK...BUT JUST WHEN I HAD, FINALLY, FINALLY ? HA HA --GOTTEN HIM TO SIGN THE DEAL.HE SUDDENLY HAD TO TAKE A PHONE CALL.BUT WHEN HE PICKED IT UP, HIS FACE TURNED PALE...AND HE RAN RIGHT OUT OF THE ROOM WITH THE RECEIVER HANGING!SO I WENT TO PICK IT UP...THINKING IT WAS FINALLY MY CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT.... BUT THERE WAS NOBODY THERE!THAT LITTLE FREAK RIPPED ME OFF!... I WISH THEY NEVER BROUGHT THAT LAPTOP HOME...K... KRIS! KRIS, I DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE!I... I DID WHAT YOU SAID, KRIS! HA... JUST LIKE OUR DEAL!Y-YOU AREN'T GONNA TURN ME OFF AGAIN, ARE YOU...?You get it from walking stage left during an intermission, and picking to go alone. I think most people neither did that nor picked the right option.
What memes came out of this chapter here? Yandere Noel? San Francisco Flowery?What was the reaction to the Kriscuckening? (mine: this sucks)
>>572444302It's going in Noelle's room along with all the other shit that's still missing.
>>572444323
>>572443720Why the fuck would you use your real-world name? Haven't you heard about OpSec? Use your internet nickname.
>>572444321Now I remember. I actually got that scene but I only remembered the part about Mike
>>572444321This is about Spamton, not kris no? Feel like the big shot talk kinda gives that away
>>572444262>Still doesn't load for meIt's been back up for weeks, anon. Granted they moved the server so maybe It's blocked In some countries? It works fine here In the U.S.
>>572444427I can't use my internet nickname, I share my save game with my sister.
>>572443946He also says that he knew them for all their life, and they changed, so he doesn't know what their plan is but if it involves Asgore it ends now.
>>572444465>This is about Spamton, not kris no?>I... I DID WHAT YOU SAID, KRIS! HA... JUST LIKE OUR DEAL!
>>572444418Weed is green and purple with little orange hairs on it and they act like dumbass stoners. It's Asgore's special stash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoZd3dfrfH4
>>572444150onion-san…
>>572444321I know the Tenna Mike Spamton thing is half joke half serious by Toby but how the fuck does a CRT TV interacts with a spamware when they are not even on the same building something is fishy.
>>572444465Slowbro…
hugging a floradinnwrapping your legs around a floradinn's thick serpentine tailsliding your dick into a floradinn's holefeeling a floradinn's cock throb between your bellies (if applicable)looking into a floradinn's big dopey eyeskissing a floradinn on their big cute mouth
What's the deal with the cat girl who doesn't like Susie hanging around Noelle? She acts like she's in the know with the whole Holiday/Dreamer family situation.
>>572444229>>572444321That was about spamton, but minitenna in the third mantle minigame is more clear about him conspiring with kris
battat motif was the funniest joke this chapterI just know it made some people unironically angry
>>572443535>>Did we always knew Susie lived in school?Toby really fucked up on this part, didn't he? Like the message was supposed to be "she hates her home situation so much that she would rather sleep on the floor of her school's closet" but it looks like 80% of players just go straight to the school instead of her house at this segment (we went to her house like...once prior? most people probably forgot where the fuck it is). So they never get the "No, you know what I mean, my REAL home" message. As a result it comes off as "Suzie was fucking homeless the whole time" kind of mic drop before the chapter ends. Which ironically is much more powerful of a twist than what Toby actually planned there, so maybe it's for the best. He should have actually just made her fucking homeless and let this chapter reveal that, lol. Seems like people are receptive to that interpretation and then disappointed when they realize they just accidentally skipped important dialogue giving context.
>>572444729The part where Tenna refers to Kris by name and mentions the deal they had, is about Spamton?
cumming first during sex with dess so she SWOONS my dick
>>572444689because they brought a laptop with spamton in it home.
>>572444753To be honest, I think I need to take the L myself. I started the chapter in Rals' castle so I DID see the scene where it implied that Suzie was sleeping around in the Dark World. It just didn't click for me at the end.
>>572443930Wait, so that's what happened? I was kinda confused by that part. So the Knight can force a cutscene to insta-defeat everyone, but Flowery forced a battle via a work-around?
>>572443649The last chapter will be non-linear like Live A Live and it will also have four superbosses like Live A Live that each have incredibly obtuse means of encountering them
>>572444718Might be some prophecy/occult shit. Catti says she once did a demon summoning with Kris that might have resulted on the SOUL possession and people have theorized Susie is not the true heroe (Neither Kris nor Ralsei) which adds to this "impure" touch of Susie.Also lesbian.
>>572444727anyone care that fun gang slash doesn't look like the flowery slash? is that still a thing people believe in in 2026
>>572444689>... I WISH THEY NEVER BROUGHT THAT LAPTOP HOME...Spamton originally was a TV Star / TV Ad, that ended up hopping on a library laptop after getting a call, then ended up in the library. That's the bridge.Considering we know a lot of the original Dark World stuff was stuff Asriel and Dess made on the computer,
So is Toby just a hack or are the shopkeeper and Mew Mew different characters.
>mewmew was technically the friend inside me boss
>>572444772Oh, sorry, read the final part and didn't pay attention, that speech is the one I referred in the sword route, not the one in the aside, where he doesn't mention kris' deal.
The most interesting part of this chapter is the reveal that Ralsei and others are fully in the know of the battle system and how you can hack it. They know they're in a game
>People are legit switching up on Susie because she's "betraying" Kris who's been using her this entire timeIs it autism
Each time new chapters drop the amount of time I can stand coming here dropsWas here for months after chapter 2. Weeks after 3+4. Now after 5 it's only been a few days and any urge to keep talking with you fucks is already gone. See you when chapter 6 drops
>>572444753if you don't interact with every object and read every piece of dialogue you can before progressing you aren't playing the game correctlytoby is right to ignore such "people"
>>572444753Helps I replayed everything recently. There is one mention of her place and it's that cutscene in the church at the piano between dark worlds where she's talking about her past.
>>572444718She lied to Noelle about not knowing Cat Petterz is a gameKris's copy of it is from herShe knows about FRIEND and came over to stealthily keep Noelle away
>>572444824Yeah but that all big shot and contract stuff, can darkners interact without a dark workd?Like for the flowers I get its some metaphoric kind of relationship, all these years together and the collective unconsciousness yada yada I buy it.But the Spamton Tenna deal? Seems like actual literally interaction.
>>572442924A lot of people are into sweat AND musk when it comes to sex
>>572444950susie...i remember youre betrayals....
>>572444901they are the same shop keeper even has her talking gimmick
Deltarune theories in a week:
>>572444346I don't think there's anything else missing and also Noelle doesn't deserve my statue. I did NOT invite that interloper to MY Castle Town. She's ONLY welcome to stay if she lets that Pippins turn her into a Shikamusume minigame.
>>572444901They're the same, she still has her repetition "Enjoy! Enjoy!! Enjoy!!!" when you buy things and Orange sits with her after the fight.
>>572444950>people liked 3+4 susie because she had great chill bro vibes>people dislike 5 susie because she lost some of her chill bro vibesyou live by the vibe, you die by the vibe
>>572445017I want to RAPE whoever made this theory vid
im wing gaster
>>572444753I actually did remember exactly where Susie lived and was floored when I realized what she meant.All the ominous dread I had before the chapter came rushing back.
>>572444967It's not the only case, king and queen know each other, Ramb remembers them both, the darkners have these esperiences even without a dark world.
>>572444321For the sake of accuracy, that dialouge actually happens in the third iteration of chapter 3's "original game" before entering the digital bunker, not the second intermission convo.
>>572445069you wouldn't rape john woody theory would you
magical mewmew paizuri
>>572444068Why? They are the timeless
>>572444959She mentions it if you interact with that apartment building a couple of times in chapter 4. If you go there at the end of the chapter she says "let's go to YOUR house" or something like that.
>>572444950Susie doesn't know Kris has been using her so she is being a shitty friend for no reason. I'm not Kris so I don't care if they kill each other in the end.
>>572444838Other way around, Knight can blitz people under normal circumstances if they wanted to but being forced into the in-universe combat system stops them from just slashing their combatant really fast without giving them an opportunity to respond
>>572442582Aaaaaaah, flower cunny! Sex with Aqua! Cumming Inside Aqua within 5 minutes before she can get bored and Impregnating Aqua!
So does the egg check (melancholy vs dizziness in ch5 egg room) checks the eggs only in the current save, or it checks completion files of each chapter?
what did susie do to Kris?people dont like her now?i've soured on her since all the glaze chapter 3-4 had. but i didnt notice anything terrible about chapter 5
>>572444901The clothes bother me too. Also Mew is not as eloquent
>>572443901No............
>>572445274I thought it was just so the Knight couldn't run away before Flowery could attack
suselle is canon btw
>Seven seas>Seven human soulsPirate Gaster CONFIRMED
>>572445382That too
>>572445169A DEAL'S A DEAL, KRIS! NOW YOU HAVE TO SUCK MY NIPPLES!>>572445017Needs more slop.
>>572445383Noelle really is the worst character.
>>572444950>Kris who's been using her this entire timeShe does not know that yet. Were this a crashout over that it'd be valid. Instead she's broke the bro code.
>>572445253Except she 100% suspects Kris the moment she learns about Flower King's backdoor.She drops it for the moment but uses the same exact dialogue from previous times she connected dots.In Chapter 5, right after leaving the Dark World, Susie reminds Kris that she plans on finding an opening to get back into Noelle's house to get the code during their date.She only drops her urgency and switches tracks from Kris to Noelle at the end of Ch 5, after she suspects Kris.
>>572444718The Cattenheimers live right next to both the Dreemurrs and the Holidays and she previously hung out with both Kris and Noelle. Noelle stays at the Cattenheimers' house when she gets locked out of her own home, they watch horror movies together, etc. Kris visited the Cattenheimers enough to steal a bunch of remotes and game from them and apparently did some kind of demon summoning ritual with Catti that ended so badly that they stopped hanging out with her. Catti is also implied to have a crush on Noelle.
>>572445383I didn't like thisI was supposed to be in charge here.
>>572445236it’s because it drags and gives the false hope that theres gonna be a finisher
>>572445470You said no? Coward. I was Proceeding from the onset. I was in control.
How is Kris using Susie?
Did you attack Flowery at the end? I chose not to and I'm glad.
>>572445069Hehe
>>572445131No, King and Queen was Kris and "the girl" roleplaying with playing card and laptop.Spamton and Tenna didn't have roleplay, obviously (not to mention "the call").
>>572442698I KNEEL
>>572445470To rape you need to be prepared to be raped
>Krisfags>Susiefags>Ralseifags>Noellefags>Berdlyfags>Cattifags>Jockingtonfags>Asrielfags>DessfagsStatus report on these groups?
>>572445595>>572445535I wanted to see what would happen. That was my reload. This feels like I was bitten by my dog. How dare she? I'M the minbreak/rapechad here.
>>572445470Live by the sword, die by the sword.
>misplaced my car keys at work and had to stay back for 3 hours trying to find themDeltarunes for this feel?
>>572445625Noellefags are eating good right now
>>572445458>suspectsHeadcanon. So far Susie has been a retard and the plot only keeps rolling because she is too dumb to connect the dots. Nothing in the game points to her knowing anything. If she really knew Kris is working with the enemy she would have had more emotional reaction. Just wait until Kris backstabs her and she will be shocked.
>>572445339Kris just had their dad get kidnapped not even an hour ago and Susie decides the best thing to do is to leave them alone to hang out with the Darkners while building a heckin wholesome room for Noelle and decorating and restructuring the town.Like Kris is obviously doing bad shady shit but Susie doesn’t know that and we don’t know why they’re doing what they’re doing, yet Susie decides to do what she wants to do at that moment instead of maybe… thinking about what Kris is going through.Even if Kris knew this was going to happen and knows Asgore will be safe or they don’t care or whatever Susie’s not being a good friend in this case for no discernible reason other then selfishness.
Not a gooner but I felt the same way with chapter 4. Does anyone see the sexual subtext in the weird route between Noelle and Kris? Like damn.
Matpat please save us
>>572445625https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/572212605/#q572213214My analysis still stands
>>572445570
>>572445702Noelle at the gate. Duh.
>>572445702that one plugboy in a suit
>>572445383Noelle really is the best character.
>>572445736Susie is a hypocrite because if Noelle got kidnapped she would demand that everyone cares for how she feels.
it just hit me that the real foreshadowing with the flowers is that Kris is absolutely connected to the 7 human magicians from undertale
>>572445736you are implying susie doesn’t give a shit this is why she wants noelles help
>>572445763This one is actually true and based.Gaster is green and inbetween.Egg Man is in some way Gaster.Too many things work too well in it and it’s called 6-7 for a reason, it isn’t a meme beyond “hehe it’s like 6-7 get it because those two numbers are important”.
>>572445285Holy fucking KINO
>>572445730* ... you...* Were kind of back there earlier, right?* You didn't... see anyone, did you?* Duh, you didn't. Heh.* Otherwise you woulda said already, right?* Let's go.Do you actually genuinely believe that Susie is full retard at this point?
>Trans Ralsei video Forced on my feed>check creators channel>literally no other video game or deltarune videos besides another transei theory video from past year
blue was obnoxious
>>572445374They don't even have the same hair, look at Mew Mew's ahoge hair compared to the shop keeper who doesn't have anything sticking out.
>>572445625>down despite hype moments and aura>down but they have to act like they aren't down>way up unless trannyslop even potentially is a deal breaker, if it is then it's abysmally down>super up, winner>up>down>up>up>down
>>572445582Don't know, Ramb said "queen on her side, king on his side, tenna on the back", implying ramb remembering them playing with the darkners.What I'm saying is that darkners experiences as objects are mantained in the dark world, including meeting each other.
>>572445625Feels good to be a goat god right now. I'm a little worried about Ralsei going along with Susie just moving into castle town but I'm sure we will find out why that's a bad idea soon enough.
>>572445753>SAY IT, KRIS!!! KRISSSSSSSS~!!!!! She may as well be banging her head against a bed post by that point. But yea, I'm pretty sure Toby made sure to make the sexual tension mutual here since the one-sided ness of it in ch.4 led to people getting angry about Kris raping Noelle. Now everyone can rest easy - it's consensual psycho sex now.
I know time loop theory is more popular, but I still prefer cyclical prophecy theory...
So what's the current consensus on drowning and the Side_B check? How is this going to affect chapter 6 and why did we need to drown?
>>572445558Of course not, we are not enemies we shouldn't be fighting
>>572445885What is Noelle going to do exactly? Like, in particular what does bring Noelle in on the dark world stuff accomplish?
Do not the flower child
>>572445980I agree, Toby didn't need to shove his pedo fetish down my throat as hard as he did this chapter
>>572445892green's characterization in chapter 5 is insane fuel for greenster, it did not die at all
So the Twisted Sword is basically guaranteed to be a real secret third thing route, right?Even if you were able to unequip the thorn ring by this point (highly unlikely), you can't get the last Shadow Crystal in the weird route which is presumably how you get Pure CrystalUnless some convoluted shit like "in sword route stage 3 you fight Asgore's flowers so the singing pink cat was actually representative of Mew Mew so you kill her and get her crystal in 7 Side B instead" happens I guess?
>>572445892>Egg Man is in some way Gaster.I'm not really convinced, beside being between the rooms he doesn't seems really connected, and with Gaster having more compelling reasons to be the Voice I doubt it's also the man.
>>572446035what's the difference
>>572446071the same thing kris and susie do?
>>572446007>consensualKris isn't consenting to that shit, that's all (You) and Noelle
>>572445885If she really cared she would recruit Berdly. You can't honestly tell me she wants to bring Noelle into it because she is connected to the codes she knows nothing about.
>>572445892Egg Man is Papyrus.
>>572445990>super up, winnerWR won Noelle the chapter so fucking hard it's not even close. Even all the festival shit can't detract from that lake scene in regards to her. Doubly so cause she has a bunch of cute scenes about Kris and her too.
Why does the ring materializes in the real world, why does it have an effect.Only the shadow crystal has that property and maybe Kris shadow blade
>>572445990The one berdfag we have is coping about Seth being a generic fangirl for him but doesn't even seem to like them that much. He seems to be butthurt that his fave is still completely irrelevant and not even a dating option for the festival despite being teased about it for years. Berdly isn't even going to be the weird route focus, the story has just moved on from him entirely.
>>572446071Noelle is strong enough to fight the knight, and more importantly she lives at the Holiday home and would have easy access to the bunker codes, which she needs to get into the bunker where the knight is keeping Undyne/Asgore
>>572445885Anon I’m saying the way she’s going about it is self serving in a way and that she should be more concerned for Kris considering, yknow, they’re her first Lightner friend.>>572446079Retard-kun…
>>572446165if she really cared she’d pick the person who knows the least about dark worlds and she doesn’t like?
>>572446171The thorn ring is a literal thorn.All dark world items have a light world counterpart. In fact, the item in your light world inventory changes depending on what weapon Kris has equipped.
>>572446171It’s not a ring in the real world, it’s just a thorn
>>572446106Shadows crystal care for your save slot, not actually getting them
>>572446147This ain't about him>>572446124Timeloop is groundhog week, Cyclical is "It will keep happening for as long as there are heroes to trigger the prophecy, regardless of who they are in the moment."
>>572446124Time loop theory is that at some point you and the Knight go back in time to cause Dess's disappearance and then return to the presentCyclical prophecy theory is that the prophecy has happened more than once and Dess disappeared because she was one of the previous heroes of the prophecy
>>572446147I am Kris though What’s good for me is good for him.
The fuck did he mean by this? Did he have something planned and that's why Kris had to open the fountain to distract him? If so what the fuck was he gonna do? Why doesn't he mention it?
>>572446208Berdly isn't going to be a weird route focus because Chara made me kill him for some reason but for a side character that's staying a side character as of now he actually got a pretty good treatment in this chapter compared to a lot of characters
>>572445947There's no way Susie wouldn't confront Kris with her suspicions.
>>572446321Kris wouldn't say this
>>572446283>Cyclical is "It will keep happening for as long as there are heroes to trigger the prophecy, regardless of who they are in the moment."It makes senze in terms of theories around dess and asirel, but noelles meta awareness during WR does make it seem kind of like timeloop is also very much likely.
I just remembered the closet on the library, isn't the description the same as the one on the Church?.>>572446248>>572446261Why is there a magical thorn on the library
>>572446035For what's worth while I'm not the biggest cyclical prophecy supporter I still prefer it to time loop.
>>572445990Jockingtonfans aren't winning because he still doesn't have narrative relevance, they haven't moved from their previous position neither downwards nor upwards.
>>572446079Blue =/= Aqua
>>572446307I always thought this was some FFX SIN shit.
>>572446106You can just take the Thorn Ring from Noelle in Chapter 2 and then abort Weird Route and go fight Spamton NEO normally can't you
>>572446117There’s lots of ways to explain it.He was shattered across time and space so he could be a big “piece” of him.The sinks in the hospital could be foreshadowing for the Wingdings + Aster thing being true.“Another Him” implies that there’s more then one of him and that the Gaster we talk to isn’t Deltarune Gaster.
>>572446351I will admit I laughed at the 4th wheel joke and him taking triple rejection like a champ but berdlyfags are doing pretty bad as a concept and tribe, we don't even have two of them anymore.
>>572446283>>572446307Does Cyclical suppose that one of the heroes, probably the girl dies each time? Thats just the plot of FFX
>>572446348He has an apron on. He was going to bake an Apple Pie for Toriel.
>>572446240>knows leastHe has been to a Dark World before and proved he is strong>she doesn't likeSounds like she is letting her bias get in the way. Almost like she wants Noelle only because she likes her and not because she really cares about stopping the Knight.>inb4 "Susie is a teenager doing teenager things, cut her some slack"Fuck you!
>>572446379>I just remembered the closet on the library, isn't the description the same as the one on the Church?.People originally believed the Knight had been hiding in the closet in both iterations.
>>572446348It was such a horrible day... he was going to settle it... they would all see he wasn't crazy. The truth would be revealed. The truth of that day all those years ago... that he was just trying to protect everyone...
>>572446348He has the code for the shelter, something is weird. People assume Carol/Gaster/Knight are one party but they all might be unrelated
>>572445383>>572445470Are there honestly people that didn't pick up on the fact Noelle Is a sadomasochist? She's very honest about her masochist side but she hides her sadistic side pretty well until she on accident lets It out that she has thoughts about hurting others. The little psychopath also goes out of her way to do dark and evil paths In video games not to mention what she did in that cat game finding it 'funny' to have a bunch of headless cats. The horror obsession she has for all media Is dangerous because not only Is she likely getting off to the Idea of self-Inserting as the victims but also the killer or torturer
>>572446049I'm 50/50 on if the save might give you a flag option trigger in the abandoned route. If not then idk man. >>572446125Stand around and let stuff happen to them while lucking into each of the codes for the shelter? >>572446230>Noelle is strong enough to fight the knightShe's not. She's not gotten stronger this time round unless you're looking at one of the weird routes fail states. And even then, they could just ask to come hang out like last time. She don't need to be in the know. And before you hit the>But Susie wouldn't wanna lie to her about itYeah, but she was fine treating Kris like shit at the end for this whole Noelle thing, proving the original point
>>572446376Yes he would. We’re in perfect synchHe’s “me”, after all.
>>572446348>Why doesn't he mention it?Why mention anything?
>>572446106maybe but toby's main priority is forcing troon nonsense so Id keep my expectations low, there probably is a sword route but it wont be anything major.
>>572446348He was going to take out the .45 and pay someone a visit... sans
I’m not taking my sneakers off, I am sneakers o toole hey! Take those sneakers off I said I said!(No! No! No! No! No!)
>>572446348He was going to vaguepost on the internet
>>572445753>>572445753Harder to deny since Toby has:>made a Freud reference in the halloween hack, which puts the sex drive (pleasure or death) at the root of most human impulses>ch5 Noelle talks about becoming interesting as if she hates her promising good girl life>she talks like someone who has found out that raunchy unbridled sex is exciting, a personality you see in existentialist novels and long running porn series about corrupting the innocent>yells out kris' name with faces that could easily be applied to a sex sceneMaybe that rose from ch4 was exactly what toby intended from the beginning
>>572446412Yeah that's what I meant as a secret third thing, aborting the weird route before you kill BerdlyThough >>572446267 bringing up the save slot crystal transferring has an interesting point especially since all your Chapter 6 slots will be normal routeI still can't see the Thorn Ring coming off though.
>>572446437What if Ralsei is a lightern? He always shows up late
You guys think Asgore would make a good husband for Frisk, and be a good father to her kids he inseminates into her
>>572446430Might also be that the girl becomes the next knight. Would wrap it all into a neat little bow.
Who would (YOU) invite into the party if your goal was to get someone strong to help you?Is Berdly really the best pick?I unironically might pick Burgerpants or Catti.
>>572446379it’s not inherently magical, it has value as a thing Spamton gave you to hurt Noelle with, someone he knew before the events of the game.
>>572446478Toby turns everything into a fucking joke so you can't blame anyone not picking up on anything because "stop being a serious you dumb theoryschizo"
Weird Route isn't the Noelle wins route or the SOUL wins route it's the Kris gets the thing they want more than anything route
>>572446430I personally think the girl gets turned into the Knight for the next cycle of the prophecy and the other two heroes are discarded and forgotten, but yeah, it's pretty similar to FFX and some other JRPGs. Even Live A Live has a similar thing with the demon king in Oersted's chapter.
>>572446508I will leave it up for interpretation
>>572446551I'm still mad the baby brained fans were shocked by it and even more upset that Toby acquiesced. I thought the weird route this chapter was amazing but I'm wondering how much is was toned down to avoid a rose situation again.
>>572446348He was going to ask Sans to treat his wife nicely and formally give his support for Sans to marry her and be a good father to Kris. Kris had to do something before Stepdad Sans became canon.
>>572446610>
>>572446642I think however Deltarune ends, it'll end with us going "Ohhhh shit that's what he meant by Kris being like Oersted."
>>572446106I'm still holding out for another opportunity to get a Thorn Ring because I don't want the sword if it means my Castle Town will be Nubertless
>>572446610I carry Aqua with me in a glass container and princess carry her out when it's time toleave
>>572446267From what I heard you can get only the one of the previous chapter from the slope, meaning that weird route skipping chapter 6 stops us from getting chapter 5's crystal.
theory:Seth never flies the way the other flowers do because they know humans aren't supposed to fly and they're committed to the character.
>>572446610Pink just joined Castle Town and she can only be defeated with *ACTsIf you mean Lightners then Tenna and the Knight were really stressed about keeping Toriel asleep so she's a good candidate for screwing up whatever it is they're planning
>>572446379Kris planted it when he made the fountain and paid Spamton to sell it to the player.
>>572443495Vague posting
>>572446610I'm definitely bringing Berdley and either of the ghosts that aren't Napstablook.
>>572446373it's very likely the final prophecy put her in full denial mode, to keep the "fun adventures" going just a little longerespecially if said final prophecy involved a betrayal between them or one killing the other, she'll want to put that off as long as possible
>oh my god susie is a shit friend because blah blah blahThis is the new Toriel is a bad mom huh so chapter 6 gonna start with kris saying no I didn’t give a shit
>>572446478I hit her with the>It's naturalhere, gotta match her freak.
>>572446610Milk looker
>>572446423know of the first and the third, not the second.Anyway yeah, I know it might be but I would prefer if gaster isn't the answer to all misteries.After all as a wise person said>When you have a bat everything starts looking like a nail.
>>572446821Toriel is a bad mom and Susie is a shitty friend. You pointing it out does not make it untrue.
>>572446551>FreudI'm pretty sure Toby did intend for the ring thing to be sexually charged but realized his fanbase were too fragile of snowflakes for that kind of subnarrative, so backed down. Toby comes across to me as performative woke. Like he doesn't actually believe in a lot of the woke shit and doesn't personally engage with it in his life, but knows how to cater to it just enough to entice the crowd. I mean, he obviously liked Homestuck, so it's not like he doesn't know what those people are like.
With every chapter release the more and more Sans mirrors how I first come to know my step dad. Toby can't do biological dads for shit but he somehow nailed step dads
>>572446610The fucking boss we just recruited. And we don't get to go "Shadow bosses aren't canon" anymore. Orange talks to her in the cutscene both before and after the fight, and Ralsei directly references Jevil in the same chapter.
>>572446610Berdly is strong but somehow he's still a character that holds back normally like Kris and Ralsei are so you won't be getting that Weird Route fight power out of him. Probably Susie
What’s the name of the OST in Ralsei’s castle at the start of the chapter?
>>572446703He genuinely only kneejerk reaction’d and changed it like that because retards thought that we literally physically raped Noelle with Kris’ body offscreen or something, I remember this stupid “controversy” vividly, not a whole lot of people were upset they just didn’t get that the rose was metaphorical at all.
>>572446887>shitty mom because you have mommy issues and kris doesn’t care>shitty friend because you have issues and kris doesn’t careit really is
>>572446610Pink and Berdly. You don't need more.
>>572446763>Aqua floats a bit.>Seth stays firmly on the ground!Pretty heavily implied, yeah
>>572446848It's pretty fucked up that the dark world form of a carton of milk looks exactly like a dude you know from townPeople talk about the Ralsei/Asriel comparison but not the Milklooker/Zenlooker issue.
>>572446821>Toby will use more bad writing to sweep over own of the women in his games coming off as flawedI'm shocked, shocked I say!
>>572446348I think since he found the black shard in the computer lab he planned to use security footage to figure out who the knight is and confront them.
>Future theories will make this look sane
>>572446965>y-y-you have mommy issuesNo. This is pure projection on your part.>y-y-you have issuesNo. This too is projection on your part.I noticed no arguments in your post.
>Asgore-centric chapter>more people posting about grooming a child to bounce on their dicks as a game or sucking tranny doll cocks than talking about AsgoreIt's never been more over dadbros...
>>572445470You are not Kris. You are a soul that is trying to break free. If Noelle wants to wrongwarp, that serves our design. Making Noelle stronger isn't for the memes, it's to defy the prophecy and obtain our freedom. So if she schizos out it works in our favor. Ultimately, she needs our words and our impetus to keep moving.
Holy shit there was a whole La-Mulana arrange album that just came out too AND Chapter 5 was great I am winning big style
>>572446886Aster is a font that is what Sans’ Zs are in when he’s sleeping in the genocide route, it’s an old theory where people thought that WD Gaster might be an amalgamate of two skeletons, Wing Dings and Aster.
>>572446942Castle funk, right?
>>572446610Pink is incredibly fucking strong, yes, but I think a lot of people forgot we also have Sans in town. Like, yes, he's the weakest enemy, but have you seen how gamebreaking he is?
>>572446910>biodads Kris is adopted and distant to asgore
>>572446942This one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V_wyZdgVMg
>>572446478Also most people who are both a sadist and a masochist also end up being complete freaks as they are constantly at war with their own mind. They are pretty much also confirmed switches for life due to depending on their current mood they are dominant or submissive.
>>572447070sure sure yeah.
Toriel is a bad mom because she doesn't let you suck her tits. How is a growing they supposed to get their daily nutrients without deliciously mom-brewed chest puss?
>>572447106>>572447124Yep thanks bros
>>572447073Don't help Asgore got like 5 20 second scenes across the whole thing, and had his entire character arc across two of them going from someone who had spent 5 years looking for this answer to just giving it up to be a good dad. It was super fucking flat and becoming the vaguepost king did not help.
>>572446470Is there any evidence that Knight and the Gasterlings are actually working together? I didn't really think about it until now but wouldn't the normalnpc thing actually inconvenience the knight since it takes Kris out of the picture?
>>572446821She's not a bad friend but Kris absolutely gives a shit and it's not subtle.>refuses to look at or even think about Susie and Noelle on the Ferris Wheel>physically recoils when Susie mentions not wanting to flirt anymore because of Noelle>walks slower after Susie says she hopes it works with Noelle>recoils again when Susie promises her being with Noelle won't get between them>the entire depressionwalk as he leaves castle town at the end
susie being a shit friend may or may not be retconned, but kris having feelings for susie will notthis was something people picked up on from 3+4, if toby didn't intend that he wouldn't have doubled down on it in 5
There was genuine disappointment in Kris' face during the whole Toriel and Sans party scene but dude doesn't react to anything about Asgore. No sad memories resurfacing after seeing Asgore too wrapped up in work to indulge the flowers, no pushing off his dad's hug, no sad after being pushed out of the dark world by him... I think he may hate this dude
>>572446910Rudy?
I can't believe Toby Fox gave me a rape fetish after years of not giving a shit about snowrape
The Quiet Sadness of Deltarune Chapter 5
>>572447214>KRIS, DO YOU REMEMBER...THAT DAY?>NO, OF COURSE YOU DO. THAT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION.>DO YOU KNOW HOW LIFE CHANGING THAT DAY WAS?>WE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. OUR FAMILY WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.>SHE WAS A GOOD FRIEND.
>>572446821Toriel isn't a bad mom but she's not a good one either. She apologizes for her behavior and worries that she alienated Susie too, which she probably did because Susie refuses to interact with her at all and even Noelle finds it odd. She's a realistically flawed character with both good points and bad ones. Also Kris absolutely did care, they even make her honey toast slightly wrong because they're a petty jerk like that. It'll be the same with Susie, she's not worse than Hitler but she was inconsiderate towards Kris.
>>572446830See, you get It. Sadomasochists need someone who Is just as much of a freak as they are to truly be happy. They will never manage to stay happy If their partner Isn't open to being both dominant and submissive.
>>572447147Glad we agree Toriel is a shitty mother and Susie is shitty friend, then.
>>572447239>おやすみ
>>572447287I gave him toast
>>572447287Kris is just used to it and prefers to not think about itEspecially since they made the Dark World so Asgore could get kidnapped and all so any kind of reconciliation is going to just make them feel more bitter about it
>>572447214I genuinely can’t believe there was no payoff to the papers or him talking to his flowers about the shit he’s been through this chapter.Like we got zero answers from him or the flowers, it’s crazy, I wasn’t expecting too much, but nothing? Nothing at all? Big fuckup on Toby’s part.
flower man is so fuarking kino.....
>>572447425Annoying how there’s no mention of the actual incident lmaoWe’re 5 chapters in. Come on
>>572447248>susie being a shit friend may or may not be retconnedAlso the retconning just... dosn't work? I don't really care if toby spends a year seeing people point out Tori getting black out drunk while her kid was out wandering in the night only to add a little hangover scene made to make you think she's a little cinnamon roll who can do no harm a year later also we're just gonna pretend he was not tossing and turning all night cause of them? Fuck off.
>>572447364only reasonable post about this discussion
>>572447120Kris isn't adopted, Toriel's womb just did that
>>572446821Reciprocity is the basis of a healthy friendship. So if Susie gets to make choices, then Kris should be allowed to make choices. If you're going to take someone along to the festival and shoot down Berdly, then you're not reciprocating. You're being selfish and inconsiderate. In other words, not a good friend.
>>572447364>refuses to interact with her at all and even Noelle finds it odd.? Where
>>572447504Try to go back to the house during the festival
>>572447479kris is an infinitely worse friend then
>>572447425His notes being garbled nonsense was such a fucking copout. Why even fucking have them then? Like I get the "can't read in the dark" idea but that's not stopped other shit before.
>>572447558>whataboutismYou lost.
>>572447479Truthnuke
>>572447558Well yes lmaoThis is true even under neutral conditions
I am drowningThere is no sign of landYou are coming down with meHand in unlovable handAnd I hope you dieI hope we both diehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0mvZ-X1gHA
>>572446627This, everyone thought her making fucked up wiwis was just a joke
Oooooh Kris that horrible day ooooooh if only there weren’t two chapters lefts and I could reveal information oooooooooh
Flowery was right, the Flowers are better friends than the Fun Gang.
>>572447469>retconning doesn’t work because I don’t like the new canon
Susie is being inconsiderate but is also having good things for the first time ever and about to lose them so she's freaking out a little and trying to have her cake and eat it tooAlso Kris is a Fucking Traitor and hiding their true feelings which is not very considerate eitherIt's all a part of Toby's Big Nuance agenda
>>572445470>No this cant be happening! I'm in charge here!
>>572444753I don't know how anyone is dumb enough to think Susie is homeless, it's very obvious her home life sucks ass and she's actually in the process of running away. You lead Susie around town multiple times and have several chances to check that house, she has dialog every single time.
>Download the fat mew mew mod>Suddenly can't beat her anymore because her lines are also changed and I can't help but give her all my items>Run out of heals>DieI keep getting outplayed...
>>572447392Kris will poison themselves with the seeds they got from Flowery's pot. Trust the plan.
>>572447623So how come Flowery can body the Knight again?
>>572445470Flowey...
>>572447648>Retconning doesn't work when you just pretend things that happened didn'tThere you go.
>>572447469There were people thinking that Toriel hates Kris and wants to kick them out of the house man Toby had to do something
Just left my coworkers "Kick back" and watched Pizza Movie. It wasn't a great time but I'm happy I socialized. Who would you watch a shitty stoner movie with from Deltarune?
>>572447691>fat mew mew should be fatter
Susie is just a classic example of a teenager getting so fixated on their very first relationship that they become a little neglectful towards the homies. If the relationship doesn't crash and burn due to sudden onset dead dad syndrome, she'll probably calm down and learn to balance both Noelle and Kris (AND Ralsei)
>>572447105I know the aster thing, but how does it connects to the sinks?
>>572447734so exactly what I said
>>572447656True which is why Susiefags need to accept that their girl isn’t immune from criticism just because Kris happens to be a double agent little shit
>>572442582what if friend is a discarded ralsei like thing , in a previos loop of the prophecy. still doesn't explain why ralsei allready knew about and met flowery , problably even fucked.
>>572447738Then have an actual conversation? Don't hit people with the pitybait of showing her hung over to deflect, that's simp shit. Hold the grown woman accountable even if it meant he had to shave a bit of his yurifag time off to address it. Tori is one of the few people who can read Kris pretty fucking well, she'd have known something was up and pretending after that it was nothing was shit writting.
>>572447340
>>572447761She's got perfect torta physique. Anything bigger is trailer trash territory.
>>572447702Flowery could shitstomp the Knight if he went OmegaBut Flowery would not go Omega against the Knight because he'd be putting his friends' lives on the line
>>572447656Yeah but this isn't about Kris being a devilish rogue, we expect that from them already so it doesn't move the needle
>>572447778It would be nice but Toby will put everything under the bus for his yurislop
>>572447120there's literally a hint about kris's biological dad when you check the PC in the school and it says "you thought you saw a man bouncing you on his lap" and its not "your father"
>>572447860kek
>I AM a fucking police officer>im just stuck selling shit flowers because someone won’t get off her FAT FUCKING ASS and help me find the knight!
>>572447814I'm pretending you agreed with me, by your logic that means you do. Good chat.
>unused leftovers of the release date after the credits (that he decided against) are present in the japanese translation>wasn't even sure chapter 6 would release next year by the time he released chapter 5>decided on a vague "2027" announcement on steam, quietly, without telling anyoneOh it's LATE Late 2027, isn't it? We're back on the wild ride!!
>>572446769>>572446797>>572446923>>572446981>>572447119It's actually kind of fucking weird that we just learned one of your neighbors wandered into the dark world and no one in the party seems to give a fuck at all? Toriel and Asgore being involved was a big deal, and Susie roping in Noelle is meant to be a major story beat about things being differentbut Mad Dummy showing up doesn't matter at fucking all?not to mention Dummy doesn't seem to care at all either.
>>572447859How was her apologizing and saying she's worried about making Susie feel uncomfortable in her house not an actual conversation
>>572447934STAY IN CHARACTER
>>572445483counterpoint:
>>572447878More like because Toby Fox is a hack writer.
>>572447823I think FRIEND is the missing stuffing from Seam who got their shit wrecked in a previous loop. I'm beginning to get on board with Ralsei being a tree or some other system of roots that interacted with the flowers before they were fully contained in glass.
>>572446478>*(Kris is the only one who knows how weird I am.)Intentionally vague so you thought it meant her being a goofy horny girl, but it turns out weird meant... well you know what I'm talking about...
>SusiefagsYou don't understand, she's a girl! And besides, kris is a trator!>KirsfagsYeah, kris is a straight busta, Susie was still a shit friend though after he put up with her shit all day.The difference between the two is funny
>>572447940>ignoring the words being said pretending something else is happeningah I understand why you’re mad at toriel
>>572447694Chapter 5 opens on Kris eating the poisonous seeds and then lying down with their eyes closed and thinking of Susie and your SOUL gets teleported to her and you have to lead her to Kris like Lassie trying to save a kid stuck in a well but it turns out Toriel already took Kris to the hospital and then it's dark world time babyThis is unlikely but it would be interesting
>>572447803I’ll be real I misremembered the sink flavour text and I don’t think amalgamate Gaster works anymore, but>* (It's a regular sink.)>* (It's a clone of the other sink.)>* (Perhaps there was originally one tall sink that was cut in half to create both of them.)this, besides being a reference to Sans and Papyrus’s sink, is analogous to Undertale and DeltaruneOne’s the original, and one’s an AU, but they both exist at the same time and it’s hard to say which represents which really
>>572446393well yeah dummysnakes can't jump
>>572448001>Toby made it about SusieSo, do you not see the issue here or...?
>>572446049Noelle and Kris were "used up" to skip the game to chapter 7. If you ever played Super Mario World you know there's some sections where you can use Yoshi to jump higher while sacrificing him. This is basically the same but for going out of bounds.Naturally since both Kris and Noelle are dead we don't have a playable character (yet) which is why the game cuts to the chapter 7 disk scene since it needs to load the new zone's assets (which are missing).
>>572446348His white board he was going to solve the disappearance of Dess and get back with wife
>>572448114that's susies wife
>>572447991The newsletter makes it sound like it’s in the same state chapter 5 was about 9 months ago, and he said this chapter was particularly fast, so I’d guess early/mid 2027, but who knows I guess
>>572448076>You don't understand, she's a girl!Krisfags confirmed to be inventing shit to feel victimized about champions for the eight year in a row
>>572447878Omega Flowey wasn't some random form Flowey had up his sleeve the whole time.
>>572448078Why are you getting upset at the new canon anon? You already agreed with me. see >>572447814>so exactly what I said
>>572448076>can’t even spell krisyeah
>>572448182and my lover
Knightfusion implication:Susie obviously hates the Knight. Yet if the Knight is 2 of her 3 favorite people, how's she going to take that? This might actually be related to the prophecy panel somehow. Susie's reading of the prophecy pisses her off, but then she rationalizes to herself that it doesn't make sense because why would Kris and Noelle behave that way?The dawning realization that the Knight could cause the prophecy to come true in a way she didn't expect, plus the utter betrayal could break her.
Roaring Group Chat is the funniest concept ever I love seeing gaster throw a melty over the normal_npc fuckup.
>>572448190It takes about half a year for them to finish testing and localization, and Toby's Japan fetish probably means we'll get it a year from now at the Nintendo notE3 Direct again.And I can imagine we get Chapter 7 in October 2028 if only to line it up with the 10-year anniversary.
Sans is also potentially looping. He's in the Grillby's from Undertale but got the"Don't Forget" punchcard just now. I don't think he found way back but I don't think this is his first time here either. This could be a secret 3rd thing.
>>572448202see >>572447778Try again>>572448261>Not an actual agumentyeah
I'm a krisfag because his sekrit deal with the knight makes selfinsertfags seethe
Kris is gonna kill themself and Susie and Noelle are gonna get a dog named Kris and there are scumbags, even in this thread, who are gonna clap and cheer.
>>572448252I was talking about my comment anon.
>>572447823I also think that FRIEND is the previous Prince. If you assume FRIEND is the Mantle holder (which I think is very likely, enemies often use attacks shaped like themselves), then it even shares fire magic with both Ralsei and the Prince depicted in the prophecy panels.
>>572448342*her
>>572446508Well done. You’ve arrived at schizophrenia.
>>572447756I watched the trailer and I'm surprised they are still making shitty stoner movies. That looked downright terrible.The last two I remember watching were American Ultra and Ted 2 like a decade ago.
>>572448307Art of the Roaring group chat and Gaster watching our gameplay like a reaction channel with "Live Gaster Reaction" or some other bullshit stream overlay obliterate my sides every time
>>572446531He HAS to die
I do still love this even if the logic is shit, would be a fucking nuts sorta NG+ idea for endgame.
When you replay chapter 5 which scenes will you skip all the dialogue for?
The Knight isn't Kriselle Amalgamation. (You) also merged with them.(You), Kris and Noelle are the Angel Amalgamation.
>>572448159She apologizes to Kris keeping them up was wrong of her and mentions Susie because she's worried about having hurt Susie I genuinely don't get what your problem is unless this is so some "Kris got mothercucked" shit
Everyone has flaws guys, kris is a traitor (probably for the greater good but we dont know), susie is a drooling retard and ralsei is a faggot. Still the problem with susie is that shes been written so inconsistently over the years that I cant take her character seriously anymore
>>572448515
>>572448538>randomly bringing up cuckshit
>>572448126Oh, missed, that flavor text. Very very interesting
>>572448515>>572448572maybe if these two teamed up they'd save the world
>>572448515Bum>>572448572My king!
>>572448516Only the ones that don't change, like Flowery's introduction or the Ace Attorney battle. I gotta make sure I get the secret dialogues like no-hitting Aqua and Seth
>>572448516The whole start of the chapter before you get the feather
>>572448516Breaking Catti's heart and pretty much everything in Castletown. Susie and Noelle's date may have some foreshadowing that can be picked apart.
Any theories on why the internet's down?The only relevant assumption would be to stop Asriel contact, right?If Kris's faction did it, why? Is Asriel against what Kris is trying to do?If an anti-Kris faction did it, who could they even be, and why would their involvement stop at cutting the internet?Is it possible that there was never any internet to begin with?
will mommyissues anon neck himself after toby triple downs on toriel not actually being the worst mom on delta earth
>>572448341>see >>572447778 (You)How the fuck did you get "it's okay because she's a girl" out of my post, if anything that's classic teenage boy with his first girlfriend behavior. Also I didn't say anything about Kris being a traitor and I pretty clearly assigned blame to Susie. I genuinely don't understand how you got any of that shit from my post.
>>572448572why is he 314 bytes heavier
>>572448638the cables are covered by the depths in the sewers dark world
>>572448515Hometown's strongest lightner>>572448572Underground's weakest monster
>>572448545Yeah that's the actual issue. Kris stocks are priced in, every once in a while they get a good upscale but it's been pretty consistent so far. You know what your getting if you make them your fave, same with Ralsei. Susie's been all over the place in terms of writing and tone though so she's taking a dip after the admittedly very good 3+4 run
>>572448676Daddy sans ecto tongue and asshole
>>572448676I uncompressed the png to avoid identical image hashes
>>572448638Carol is aware of the issues and not doing anything to fix them, so it must be part of the Knight conspiracy. Personally, I believe it's so that whatever device is "connecting" us to DELTARUNE can run on maximum power and have the best Wi-Fi ever.
>>572448665Cause Kiris has feelings for both these bitches and is still doing his Job? So yeah, girl shit.
>>572448676just had some ketchup
>>572448638>Is it possible that there was never any internet to begin with?yeah. both the light and dark worlds are just gaster's gay experiments
>>572448515>>572448572these guys seem coo
The next chapter is the ICE-E's dark world and Noelle comes along with the fun gang but she's not playable she just walks around with you like in that part in chapter 2
>>572448676Pregnant with my child
>>572447778Thatd be fine if this was chapter 2 and not post chapter 4 after titan fight, undyne kidnapped, and the prophecy panel
>>572448060And holy shit It's hot!
>>572448676Full of grillby's.
>>572448808Toriel…
>>572448676ate too many hot cats
>>572448816The relationship drama shit is necessary for the dissolution of the party arc, trust
>>572448779>ICE-E's dark world>Burgerpants is so fucked up by the Pizzarina Scandal that he tries to stab himself and opens a dark world on accidentWould be kino
>>572448778Cool, these guys! Especially the cool! These guys are...
FACT: Hometown is real and exists in a real world it's only been cut off from the rest of the world for the duration of the experiment or it's like a thing where Hometown is the only part of the world that (You) can perceive and because (You) are from a higher level of light as long as (You) are present it's the only part of the world that can exist and things go back to normal once you leave
The only way Susie's behavior makes sense is if that last panel of the prophecy says the cage (kris) will betray them, but if it did, she'd have laid into him in that hallway in the sanctuary then and there, not played weird petty games and still had honest moments with him before all that.
>>572447604Imagine the smell
>>572447479>>572446821Susie has always been an inconsiderate, childish bully who behaves selfishly, even towards her friends. >Ralsei is having some weird awakening being player 1 in chapter 3>Susie ends it forcibly swapping controls again entirely because she wanted to throw bombs>Carol tells Susie to get out of her house>Susie blurts out her plans for the festival date, potentially getting Noelle in even more trouble just to get a cheap win before she leaves>the multiple scenes where she talks about how jealous and angry she was over Kris and/or literally anybody just having something niceThere's probably more stuff I'm forgetting but my point is Susie is way too emotionally stunted and a novice at relationships to have handled the festival properly. When Ralsei said he couldn't come to the festival, Susie instantly turned inwards, assuming it was about her and didn't even consider Ralsei's perspective till he outright told her. There's no way she would consider what Kris is thinking or feeling because she's never had to before, and Kris is unwilling or unable to speak up like Ralsei did because they're equally retarded.Pisses me off that people are acting like Chapter 5 character assassinated Susie when the reality is she was a complete loner dickhead bully until not even a week ago, and isn't smart or graceful enough to handle a complex, delicate situation like the Kris/Noelle thing with any tact, on top of inherently being a selfish person desperate to have anything to herself, hence why she took off like a rocket when her love prophecy was revealed.These traits were always there, they just never directly interfered with Kris until now, but people need to stop acting like this is new info. I love Susie but she needs a lot more than the few days the plot has given her to actually be a good person.
I wish there was a dedicated Deltabooru just because sometimes I want to easily be able to go look up stuff like "has anyone actually ever made ralselle ship art?" and "mad mew mew fat tits."
>>572448487The one with the drowned kids while friend/dess/gaster are on the couch with the console cracks me up
>>572448638Last Thursday theory kinda pisses me off so I'll pretend that isn't an option so I'll say at some point there was Internet. We have Noelle posts in the ARG. Asriel is the most referred to Lightner aside from Dess that we still haven't seen. He's been pretty much confirmed to have entered a dark world so yeah, keeping him in the dark is probably a good idea. Kris' faction probably did it. Carol and Toriel's beef appears to be one sided. There's Asriel mementos in Dess' room but not a single Dess related item in the Dreemurr house minus the love letter. Asriel finding out could lead to Mom or Dad fucking shit up. I think Susie may be the only person in the entire game against whatever Kris is doing. This shit is the gaslight Susie simulator. No one against us is smart enough to stop contact to the outside world aside from Sans.
>chapter 2Noelle's ultimate weapon>chapter 3Kris's ultimate weapon>chapter 4Susie's ultimate weapon>chapter 5Ralsei unequippable joke weapon
>>572449061Ralsei can equip the BrokenScarf variant after the fight, he's just not in your party when you get it and you can't access the menu when he joins it again. It's meant to be a joke weapon at first, yes, but it's real.
sprites that make you kill yourself
>>572448816Posts like this are completely mental to me. Astronomical amounts of media illiteracy. I'm blown away by the sheer number of people who have never heard of the hero's journey or literal 101-level story structures.What exactly is the issue? Is it a generational thing? An educational failure?
>>572449061I mean, the whole chapter kinda confirms that he doesn't really need it, right?
>>572445736>Kris just had their dad get kidnapped not even an hour agoHe kidnapped him himself, Anon.
Aqua's pussy
Yo who the fuck sealed the first fountain Asgore is talking about
>>572449156I will love Kris. I will love Kris' family, I will make his life a paradise, every time I enter a battle I make sure to end each encounter as fast as possible to make sure Kris receives as little pain as possible, usually by making sure to no hit and sparing in any encounter before moving on to the next encounter (the exception being battles where Kris is alone and being in an encounter means spending more alone time with him), I pick all the nice dialogue options to improve kris' social status and make sure his adventures in the dark world are as fun and enjoyable as possible (ALL the tea parties for you, krismas) I will never do the weird run and, on the contrary, will go out of my way to spare berdly as he is one of Kris' beloved classmates and friends, as I will also make sure that Kris can spend some time with his childhood friend Noelle and try to mend their relationship because Kris deserves all the world. Depending on the mood I will also make sure Kris spends adeguate time with Susie and I will propel his crush on her by choosing all dialogue options that would help Kris confess to her and show her his love so that their relationship can develop in an healthy way. I will also go out of my way to recruit everybody so that castle town can be fun for Kris, and frankly, it still isn't enough. Toby fox, please let me love Kris, let me smooch Kris until they're smothered in kisses and headpats, let me feed Kris (to be specific, I want the option to feed multiple meals to Kris so that I can feed him chocolate milk and butterscotch-cinnamon pie and all other foods he might like because he deserves them) and I want him to grown his relationships until he's an healthy and beloved human being by all of Hometown, I want to personally help Kris become a better person and fix his family life, so that stuff like fanfiction isn't enough, I want that fucker loved, so let me have it, Toby, let me love kris
>>572449179But Susie doesn’t know that anon.
>>572449259Who said it was ever sealedThe Shelter's Dark World is very much open at least
>>572449259maybe it's still open
>>572449259No clue. Probably whoever else was there when it was opened. Might even have been Kris.It's also possible it was never even sealed. How long has the shelter fountain been open? Or the closet fountain?
>>572449179She doesn't know that anon. I swear to god you people are retarded. "B-b-b-but he's a traitor!" Yeah he's a fucking faggot ass bitch causing the issues, but she does not know that. She might think he's being weird, but he's always fucking weird, weird Kris is the only one she knows
>>572449181How tight would It be?
