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Before you post something, ask yourself: would Mika say this?
Would not lewd dog
>>572510739what's her appeal again?
soon
Yukino...
>>572510901Plain girl appeal. We like plain girls here.
>>572510901
Where the fuck did this tentacle vagina thing even come from?
>Spooked by Fuyu>Top tier momos>Top tier valentinesI duno who's writing her but she's sprinting into my heart. I thought Eri and Kanoe were pretty lovey-dovey but Fuyu is crazy cute.
Before you post, ask yourself:Would Ayame think it's a kino post?
>>572511042Mold?
>>572510983Honorary goslingfag inductee. I still think about the anon who shilled her to us, I saw the light thanks to him
>>572510901She appreciates you.
>>572511060she is just discount aru
>>572511132Mold.
What's something Ayame would have done?
>not only I paypigged but I was still 5 hp bars short to skip to phase 2 because ue50 jk neru instead of ue60I really need a yuuka in my life to take away my wallet and put me on an allowance. I clearly cant handle my own money intelligently
>>572511042doujinshi by 海山そぜ
Tentacle pussy got me acting unwise...
>>572511117KINO!
Hikari
>>572510879>painted toenailsKikyou LOVES sensei (me)
>>572511183I don't know, but it's Nagusa's fault it didn't work out.
>>572511154Nah.Aru does nothing for me other than give me laughs when she's being a dork.Fuyu is super cute and shockingly forward while also being self conscious about it.
My Wide Bride
>>572511136The longer I play the more I realize it's one of the best momos I've read so far
>>572511378I can fix her.
>>572511352>Aru does nothing for megayest post of the week award
>videos up of TOR binah on autojeez, this is not gonna be a comfy plat
Ok but Suouheads suffered more
Fiat
>>572510901dog pussy
Tentacle pussy melts your peter like ice
>eleph from michiru valentine gave me enough to raise her to 3star so I can finally get her last momotalkBeing stuck at 2star for a bunch of characters unless you dump eligma kinda blows.
>>572511381>epic sex momoi>definitely spark midori
>>572511471That's interesting
As a writer (real), I found the guy saying writers are basically amazing and meticulous to be very annoying.I'm preeeetty meticulous I guess, but most creative work is fluid including what I do (especially in writing dialogue, as organic dialogue isn't particularly "planned" in order to be effective). That's what makes creating so fun, and feel less like work. Also of course, no absolutes to art. Some are really autistic and meticulous for sure...really doubt it's most of them, and besides there are many aspects to value about a work (not only its thematic importance (thank god, that would make most media feel obnoxious--including widely recognized masterpieces))
>>572511606>Being stuck at 2star for a bunch of characters unless you dump eligmabro your expert permits? you can buy 30 elephs per month
>>572511189You could have just cleared lunatic and gotten a higher score instead of malding torment all day
tentacle vaginas aren't real
>>572511207Link?
they should give welfare elephs a discount in the perm shop
it should be good enough
>>572511606you can just buy her Eleph with expert permitsI should probably get around to it
I have Kisaki and Ako I don’t understand when I’d use one over the other.Does Kisaki replace Ako in practice?
>>572511707No one except waifufags is going to choose elephs for some welfare that is never used over elephs for a fes student or limiteds like IMari.
Are you ready to forgib?
>>572511896for what, gold?probably, yeah
What is the tags to use on the boorusnto find art where Kei is with me and aris is in the back looking on being cucked. Kei and netorare tags don't catch it
>>572511998You use both, or SNagisa over Ako if you have her.
Alice hebe pussy...
>>572510983god why'd they make her into such a useless unit while actual lame characters like Hari is meta for a lot of things
>>572512012ah yes because metafags will wait a fucking year to get enough for a single UE level from expert permits retard
>>572511998Kisaki when not fielding sSeiaAko is for when you want crits but also need healing
>>572511707>>572511928I have been using expert permits but they come with the opportunity cost of not being used for valuable limited and fest students.Youre also strongly timegated on them so youll basically never catch up to how far you could have gotten them if you had a chance to farm them during their original and rerun.
Hina owes me marriage
>>572511998kisaki buffs EX damage. This doesn't buff attacks, normals, and so on.ako buffs CRIT damage (and chance). This works for everything unless the EX can't crit.camp hare buffs attack, which affects everything again.Ideally you want to combine all 3 buffs.
>>572511707expert permits = ligma
>>572512124>no tentaclesinferior model
strong rabu
>>572512365you = retard
>>572501109Picrel is best i can give ya on why Deca initially wanted to be "God" in the first place and why it did everything that it did.Deca probably wanted to do it in a more peaceful, sensible way (see : "My Prophets will come WITH me") before it had to change things up because the flood retconned it or gave it the will to live or fear of death. Either way, Deca getting drowned changed how it wanted to do things. Which it admitted was THE most critical flaw in her final moments. So it's safe to assume that Deca was just making fuckups upon fuckups from there on out, but did not want to stop regardless until it's reached its goals because of what the flood did to it/they/them/her/him (ah screw it i'm going with her).In the end, i think she finally found the answer to her questions. She's realized that she's gotten her proof of existence (The Prophets, Malkuth and the Engineers). She realized that her actions were unacceptable or wrong and that she made mistakes along the way. She's realized that she can't be "God", after probably witnessing what "God" is, which is why she wished blessings upon us instead of "granting" us blessings at the end there.Deca was certainly an interesting villain if you try to keep up with her motives. It was mostly vague as fuck, it wasn't driven solely by malice, and it sure was interesting. She actually reminded me of ___Rio somehow.I'd forgive her if i can.
////////ALERT////////we are buttinspector from americanshow asses now or be fined
>>572512401
NEW IDEA:Add New Shop with currency we get from some place idkWe move all the welfares from the expert permit shop to this shopThoughts?
My canon wife Fuuka...
>>572511793https://exhentai.org/g/3910503/d72d61f97d/
>>572512528
Reminder that lunatic is babby mode. You don't need your own SKanna. You don't need your own Fuyu. You don't need more than UE40 on anyone.
>>572512459>spend expert permits to buy elephs for michiru>now you don't have enough permits and have to spend ligma on another studentRetard. In fact, it's even worse to spend expert permits if you have a discounted ligma option since you will probably be wanting to spend the permits on a student that you already bought the discounted elephs with ligma.
>>572512547novice permits that you can get even if you're below level cap
>>572511471>Marchen madchenDon't remind me
>>572512124Passionate sex with Alice during the heat
>>572512241Yes? I've gotten UE40 to UE50 with just dupes and expert permits on 5 fes students because UE50 was never actually needed for anything until lunatic.
>>572512621>still need Def DownNot true baby mode
Reminder that Lunatic Binah is actually annoying as shit, despite retards telling you it's a 2T, and that a lot of people are going to complain about it tomorrow.
>>572512621You do need Rio. I don't have Rio, or Mika, or Neru.
>>572512810reminder that this isn't JP so torment will be enough
>>572512810Yeah I dont get it either. Torment is already annoying and Lunatic makes it worse by design
>>572510879Pale kot...
>>572511793koharu would've been able to copy and paste that author in porn sites
>>572511042there is a very popular monster romance book for women where the skullmonster has a tentacles alongside his penis
>>572512621>LUN is mandatory for safe platthe age of comfy ends NOW
>>572512497kinda funny how in a way most of vol.EX happened because arona sneezed on deca
>>572511701Another writer here, done some comms and local work. I hate to sound like some post-modernist sayinig this, but the annoying thing about literary discussion and analysis is that there is a hell of a lot of subjectivity involved in it. There are general writing tips that help create good writing, like basic foreshadowing, but there are numerous ways to approach writing that aren't necessarily "good" or "bad". Some people barely plan shit out in advance, yet it works out largely well for them(Toriyama), where as some others will craft the most meticulously plotted world and outline so they could tell you the whole story before writing a single chapter(Tolkien).That's not to say no common consensus can be reached or you can't critic anything because that's just your opinion bro, but what certain people like or find tolerable can also vary. To one person, something like SoL elements can be character establishment and relationship building even if it has no significant impact upon the later story. But to another, it can be wasteful padding that could've spent more screentime elsewhere.There's an argument to be made over shit personal taste and what not there, and I would say that the mass market isn't really the most critical bunch. But the very nature of creative work means that there are less absolutes than say, arguing a mathmatical proof. Just look at last thread with one person citing Jun Maeda are a master and another person immediately called them an overrated hack.I still have fun discussing what's "good" or "bad" writing, despite all this.
>>572512497Yeah. She is a tragic figure and I wish we could be friends
>>572512912Malding for a high score torment is way worse than doing a comfy lunatic run.
>>572512810You overestimate how many people do Lunatic. At most it will be like 2 /bag/ posters.
Jerk Off Instructions by Momoi
>>572513070>comfy lunatic runlollmao
Is Sensei like this?
>>572513015Entirety of volEX happened because mystery niggas kept prompting a souped up calculator until it tried to answer questions about the divine
>>572512078the ghost of gold Binah is always hidden in that corner
oh well, no lunatic for medon't have kokona
>>572513060Let's put Deca in the shittim chest
>>572513163yes? I literally did my mock in less than 10 minutes
As not-a-writer, I think we should genocide all writers
>>572513265post it then. surely you took a screenshot if you're telling the truth?
>writer herebut are you a GOOD writer?
>>572513256Yellow Plana...
>>572513331I did last thread
>>572513256That'd be cool. And she can give arona that shitty strawberry milk she likes
Can I.Mari be a good substitute for Kokona?
I got birdwife to UE50
>>572513463no you didn't
Last time Binah ran, it was GA with purple TOR which is significantly easier than yellow. Insane was still enough to plat. TOR will easily plat in global.
>>572513507Did you get her to 100 affection?
>>572513501yeah, the top lunatic clears use iMari
I dont get it, this is the build I see everybody using in the clear page, yet I don't deal anywhere close enough damage to the red armor robot. Why? My dHina is all maxed btw.
Good for plat by the end... right?
>>572513015I like how enthusiastic Deca was back then when they finally made first contact with us lul
>>572513603Fuck no, I started playing this year
Students that would do a TED Talk?
>>572513659hold on, let me consult with my crystal ball
>>572513716Rio
I don't want to do torment...
>>572513641Same>>572508563
Yeah, I think I'm ready. It's been fun hanging out with you guys.
>>572513856Do a flip
>>572513072you underestimate how much people have been hyping it up and saying how easy it'll be
I would have preferred if it was the Chroma making the innocuous question instead of the priests.Deca gets a mystic that's immediately inverted because it was already touched by the Chroma.
>>572513856I'm like hey what's up hellonever kys you are self
>>572513659Look at JP scores for an idea.
>>572513053>Some people barely plan shit out in advance, yet it works out largely well for them(Toriyama), where as some others will craft the most meticulously plotted world and outline so they could tell you the whole story before writing a single chapter(Tolkien).Yup. Personally I'm a "outline shmoutline" type where I will plan a few major things vaguely that I'd like to happen, and then from there I'll just work toward those pillars and if things change by the time I've gotten there, they change. I see it as "it serves the story, it makes sense, so I'll change it" and not "it has to be to my plan". I can't be bothered to outline (though even then, I'll make personal resources to keep track of stuff like "who knows what and when" in the plot).But then there's stuff like World Trigger (one of my favorite series)--Ashihara the author has very obviously thought WAY more than I ever do about my work and I'm jealous of that (balancing like 100+ characters, foreshadowing, small details, minor relationships, it's absurd)Anyway yeah agreed. I don't think there's anything wrong with "sounding post-modernist". I think a lot of the really, REALLY old writing stuff was WAYYYYY too "scientific" (like how important meter was--no, agh, I can't).I ultimately do think more should accept that there's all kinds with writing--indeed including in otaku media (honestly? Likely especially? Because most work is serialized AND heavily edited)
>>572513716Ted
should i bother dumping mats for torment? The only DDown i bothered to level is akane...Pretend I'm not in your server
My students wouldn't even care if I died
I thought I did alright for my first try but apparently there's a lot of room for improvement, huh. I don't feel like doing Lunatic, maybe on the weekend. >>572513659Anon, I...
Happy birthday!
>>572513856don't do it.You're not even gonna see how the fes swimsuits are gonna look like?
>>572513542Yes I did and I'll post it again
Seventy-eight children with Yukari
>>572514273Bro... I don't think that's biologically possible, unless she births triplets every time
>>572514078Wait a minute...
I know /bag/ love being a tribalist tsundere, but if you play BA for the main stories, you would very likely enjoy fgo, nikke, genshin stories as well.Event/side/group stories and momos are where BA shines.
>>572514078Why is she trying to drink lemonade with her vagina?
>>572514449OMG! 4 CAKES?!
>>572514361There are students that have had 5 birthdays and are still the same age, this means you can easily do at least 7 pregnancies per Kivotos year.
curbstomp fatefags
>[-]
Not even worth a (you)
>>572514449I am faithful to the sexy chibis
I don't need to invest in sex any further than this for Lunatic, right?
I'm gonna do this
>>572512078my 2T TOR on EU is ranked 300ish. it's not gonna be THAT bad right?
>open world slopnyo
>>572513856Real g would not sympathybait and just leave
>>572514779>2T TOR on EUbro...
Is it actually feasible to spend 2200 AP every day? I struggled to get there yesterday and now I don't think I can today. This is with me buying the AP pack and the PVP coin energy drinks
Sex with the disabled.
>>572511998buffs are more powerful the more of them you can stacksome buffs stack, some don't, it's complicatedAko and Kisaki stack
>>572514449Of the ones you listed only FGO has an actually coherent story that's written with the same idea in mind start to finish, as opposed to just being typically gacha "we'll see what the next quarter brings us" writing.
>>572514961with pyro refreshesup to you if that's worth it
>>572514449>genshinhow do you manage to post on 4chan while being effectively illiterate? genuine question>nikkeIn the past I would also give you shit for that, but yeah, after Deca, we are no longer any better written than Nikke >fgoI wouldn't know I'm not touching anything Type Moon related again until Girls' Work comes out
>>572514361She’s a young lady and incredibly fertileI think we could have quintuplets if we’re really lucky
>>572515072I want all my students to give me chocolates...
>>572514779anon it's the first day and the usual suspects were late with the video guidesat minimum you need fast 1T Torment but since I just did one and it was extremely easy with minimal score improvement left possible, it might actually be Lunatic outside of perfect speedrun Torment clears
UE30 Mika and borrow a second SKanna or borrow UE60 Mika and invest in my Fuyu?
Miyo's Valentine's was oddly bland given how much of a rapist she is in her momos
Who is the Usagi of BA?
>>572513542>>572514146blown the fuck out
>>572515482her name isn't sailor moon?
this is your daily summer Kisaki
Jumby my beloved...
>>572515432That's only because you went along with her script and she manipulated the situation to give herself a whole 2 hours of unrestricted access to you.
>>572514961i'm sure that cap was set for giga newbabs who get a full AP refresh after doing 2 missions
Kei does not have tentacles in her vagina you fucking weirdos.
>>572515190I'm unsure if it's possible for newfags to farm enough for invites for all students.Which I think is fucked up, btw. I don't know why they're so stingy, because the original valentine's event was absolutely not stingy.
What the FUCK did she put in her muffins?
>>572515989Do you remember the cum brownies?
Just fucked Kei's tentacle pussy lads, felt great
>My reward for standing the eternal, meaningsless slog of VF-2 was the lamest sequence in existence with a bunch of joke characters beating up another joke character with a joke robotEven in the absence of expectation and with the bar lying on the floor, they managed to dig below it
>>572515989love ;)
>>572515989Phosphorus (homemade)
>>572514992Elf breeding.
>>572514758She was very bashful about the whole thing and it may seem a little generic but I think it's really sweet. Anyway, I think it'd be very hard to top her l2d and gear bond momo where she basically proposes to you
>>572513641>>572513845>dHinaIs it cause she's not critting? She's pretty inconsistent in that aspect.Idk, I was using meme team cause the tips say ex dmg is reduced.
>>572511381>kei hard single, since tentacle
>>572512312I made this post
>everyone just wipedI guess UE60 Mika was not optional
>>572515074Genshin is pretty much god (lowercase g) tardwrangling god with elementals (mystic) and melee weapon (firearm). Story wise it indeed share similar pattern, it feel different only because of the lack of gun and chinesium art direction. Yes I was coerced to play BA by friends.
>>572515289I will tell you what, I am gonna lazy it until sunday and if I am still in purple I will just not bother
>>572516520
who do you love more?Kisaki or Kiki?
>>572516520go to sleep kurwa mac
/bag/ should play bombergirl
>>572516592>>572516636eh whatever I posted it here before
>>572516520Sorry to hear that, Michal
>>572512250>>572512360>>572512096>>572515017Ok if I can use both I’ll try to beat Binah like thisI don’t have any other Def Down that will stack with Kanna so I’m using Noa for expose weakness. I assume it’s similar?
>senseis spent too long stroking binah>now it's too hardGuess I'll have to be happy with bronze this time...
>>572516740
>>572516879NIG
>>572516520you need to groggy the rockets or get wiped, no, ue60 is probably not required. idź spać, Michale.
>>572515958Previously I would have said it's possible since alts don't count towards the total but we've already got six new students in the coming months and another eight new students in the PV and that's if they don't make a side stop at Seven Prisoners or Nosferatu Union or Highlander.They're going to have to do something sooner or later.
The GDD is too powerful.
I remember Binah having 7 million HP for Extreme and 8 million for Insaneglad they adjusted the numbers, this shit was not okay
>>572511493Are you ready for the two Suou doujins this Comiket?
>>572516768no, expose weakness is extra damage when someone is damaged based on that student attack. Maki has passive def down that she throws (the paint ball). battle Hoshino has auto def down too. sKanna is most likely enough on her own, who else you got? Maybe someone to lower Mika cost or buff mika attack?
>>572510901She's nice.
>>572515074What did you dislike about Deca? I didn't care about it immediately but I found the denouement better than most of what we got from the main story since Vol F.
>>572514146What's the rotation?
>>572513641I don't get it either and I'm left with the same result where the red guy wont die.So far in my attempts it's like>kill gator>kill avant guard>heal/not diechoose two.Haven't been able to make a team that can do it all.bAris destroys the gator, but at least in my experience is squishy and will die if I do focus fire on the avant guard, and to kill the avant guard I need to sacrifice healing slots for focus fire + more red auto dps
Burgerbros, what is your favorite burger?
KILL THOSE FROGS!
>>572515385borrow ue60 Mika so that if something goes wrong, you can use your ue30 Mika and Akane for second team
>>572517214Flip your score's first two number~3M cleanup team cause it's just mock
>>572511707that shit's too expensive for welfares imo
>Aru got scammed by buying chocolates for meNooo....>>572517209First time I'm doing valentines and I already read 6. I've got some achievements so it may slow down later, but someone said I could end up doing 50 even without refreshing
>>572517671for me, it's bbq bacon
>>572517671mushroom swisscowboy (bbq sauce, bacon, onion rings) close second
>>572518130Apollonian sensei...
coom in Nozoom.
>>572514449genshin stories is slop and 95% of is is a waste of time. Also it's not comparable at all. the devs know the story suck but they have such high ego so they prevent players from skipping it by refusing to add skip button.
nakami wa.. yubiwa?
Eimi's new gun is unironically pretty cool looking
I got my torment clear but it was really sloppy, who should I invest into? My neru is UE60 already but are Rio and Himari worth getting elephs for?
>>572517736Cute dumpster bunny!
>>572518375Rio, definitely yes.
Lovingly putting a baby in my adult wife Kayoko...
What does Plana taste like?
>>572518720The opposite of Arona
>>572518720Plana's cunny juice...
>>572513072More than half of plat clears will be on lunatic, even steambabs will be doing it.
KEI-KEI OWES ME CLANKER CUNNY
>>572515061Fate is such a huge franchise and Nasu is so fucking rich, that FGO can actually afford to make mistakes and still live.
Koharu you saved my ass!!!!
>>572517671Did you just say BURGER
>>572515061>>572519034no one cares about Fate retard, go back to your general
>>572518375Himari and Aru, no. Rio and Seia get buff retention at UE40; Seia's a handgun striker so she wants survivability as well.
Waka
>>572519118oh I was too slow though :( son of a b
>>572518860every time I see some 3DPD Asian cosplay garbage the swollen eyes get worseat least this time it doesn't look like she's got pinkeye and instead it genuinely looks like someone gave her two shiners, which is arguably an improvement
>>572519034It doesn't change that it's written under the direction of a single, successful writer with absolute power, while most gacha are written by a crowded writer room of nobodies with zero one-man works under their belt.This isn't meant to suck Nasu's cock, it's just a reality that the latter model will never ever ever ever ever (ever) produce anything remotely of the quality that even a mediocre, but single, driven, proper writer could.
>>572518052Of course aru would have impeccable taste
>>572514449I play Genshin and Limbus on top of BA and I think all 3 have good stories.BA is the happy go lucky wacky kind that gets cringe whenever it tries to get philosophical.Limbus is the sadshit kind where you're always wondering what twisted or gory shit they'll come up with nextGenshin is the big lore game that both hides and says just enough to make you stick around and provides plenty of good character moments like BA does.
reisa is so well-behavedshe doesn't tell anyone i hit her
I like how everyone Sensei meets either seems to instinctively hate him or (often rightfully) gets the worst possible first impression. It's a wonder that Hina rolls with it so well early on despite catching Sensei sucking the nail polish off of Iori's toes.
Man this bait is fucking terrible today
whoa
>>572519430
>>572519518yep
>>572519290yes, we need to keep saying that makeup style looks like they got punched between the eyes and encourages violence against women and it's a good thing. Shitty makeup fad, I don't mind the extended eyeliner up top though, but I don't see that much anymore
EW WHY THE FUCK DID YOU POST A PICTURE OF A 3D WHORE
>>572517671had a prime rib steak burger recently and that was pretty damn good. first bite and my pupils just dilated as i processed the taste
>>572517524I'm not typing it again, my rant was here>>572408364while the things that made me quit Nikke go in different directions some of the time, they do touch the same themes, which is the role of the protagonist and the shit treatment of characters for cheap dramatic effect.
I would some 3D whores
>>572519859I literally laugh out loud irl (in real life) when the face is so hairbrushed that it looks rendered in blender with a subsurface scattering material.
>airbrushed to hell and back
>>572519859wood
>>572518720Salty coins and milk
>>572519518It also keeps replying to itself.
>>572519859>a single thigh is almost as thick as her torsojeez, stick to cosplaying Yuuka
>we lost BA staff for this pile of garbageWas it worth it?
the only acceptable cosplayers are the ones who know not to show their faces https://x.com/ryu_jj2/status/2071936646606664185
>>572513641>>572513845>>572516270>>572513641You need either bEimi or focus fire, anything else is a cope team that won't be able to 3*.This is what I used for my suboptimal 3*, the main thing is you want three of your strikers to be red and enough healing to tank the fire. You might be able to interrupt the fire with Tsubaki or point it away with a reposition tank but I'm not going back in to test.
>>572520138please understand, they want the global audience
>>572520138at least they aren't overdesigned
Is there a good video that explains the timings of this team so I don't get nuked by binner's missiles?
>>572520138sex with pink kot
>>572520138looks better than that other game at least
>>572520138That's not KV or AssOral
>>572520368yes
>>572520138Those designs kinda suck. Makes me think they are using a brand new team for character designs since there's no way this would fly in BA
>>572520138go shill your shit somewhere else nigger
>>572517214
I'm trying to copy thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3S2mxtYHzgbut even in the first rotation I'm off by like 1M dmg. Could it be caused by the fact that my sNagi and bHimari are both 4*?
>>572520416>>572520429AO unironically looks better
>>572520571yeah
>>572520627it really doesn't, though
gimme comfy 2T lunatic binah please, i don't have fuyu, please
>>572520138>3d models that don't capture the charm of yutokamizu at allLiterally what was the point of Nexon transferring him? He was one of our best artists. Wtf were they thinking???
>>572520713Yeah, if you're retarded.
>>572520791>him
>>572520631Shieeet... I can still clear but my score is worse by like 100k. I might end up attempting lunatic but we'll see tomorrow >>572520204Thanks nigga, I might copy it, but what's your UE lvl for bAris, Shun and sHoshino?
>>572520713I dunno, I kinda actually like some of the designs in AO and I haven't seen anything from RX that is any good
Don't forget to gogurt your students, bag
Don't forget to pat your dog, white man
>>572520803try posting better bait next time
>>572520952
>>572520530>posting fat 3dpd hags in /bag/
>>572520138I like the 2 on the rightI'm excited to see Kim Yong-ha's vision.
>>572517671On vacation I went to one of those “Millennial Burger Places” that gets made fun of a lot.It was a bacon cheeseburger, but instead of bacon it was fried smoked kabasa sausage, it was soooooo good and reasonably priced too. Only about 15 bucks plus fries and a drink.
>>572517671You guys gonna bully me, but I prefer kebab
Dozo...
>>572520969Yeah next time I'll say Project RX looks good
Been thinking about George droyd all day at work today.
>>572520951>I kinda actually like some of the designs in AOgood one. no one believes you
>>572520571100%, yes.
Remember that this is canon
>>572517671Breakfast burger
>>572521160I believe him
Whoa... Sensei... Is just... A normal... Person..? No... Say it ain't so... He shoulda beat up malkuth 1v1 that's my real Chad sensei... Cancel blue archive... Gonna go post elephants on twitter dot com...
>>572513856B-bro
>>572521358>referring to yourself in third person
postin meg on 4chan.org
>>572520571>my sNagi and bHimari are both 4*?if equipment is maxed, then possible
>>572520957>>572521121I'm buying some peanut butter on my way home.
>>572521409Excuse you. I'm a below average person.
>>572517578Rotation heavily depends on your investment. There isn't a one size fits all.
>western NTR yurifags already brigadiering the other game because the MC turns into a catI want to feel bad but kek, deserved
>>572521231Sex. With all of them. At the same time
>>572521616Excuse you, you're a chad.
>>572521639>mc turns into the game mascot
Of course Miyu immediately goes into Yuzu's locker
>>57252020460, 30, and 20 respectively, but my Shun is only like 3/7/7/7 and and red autoattacker will probably do. Aris also doesn't need to be that high, the gator's going to bottom out quickly regardless and then she spends the rest of the fight just cycling.
>>572521231I’m about to give up some military secrets…
>can't do Insane Binah still even after doing D during the eventYeah, I guess I'm still a shitter.
>>572517401No MakiI have Battle Hoshino but she has yellow armor?Idol Mari is cost reduction but idr if it’s good.Here’s who I have outside of all the normal 1/2star
>>572521650this but ask Shun and Rumi to change into the small forms first
I need this
i still plat 85% of the raids doing insane
>>572520957NICE FAT BIRTHDAY TITS
>>572522121this nigga plays on asian babu mode KEK
>>572522121Ein looks so cute...
Okay, Lunatic is actually harder than it looked like. I've been mashing my head for a couple hours now, did tons of upgrades that I was neglecting for a long time and still it doesn't work. Guess I'll try again tomorrow.
holy fuark, Eimi trivializes challenge EX
>>572522250there was an anon here who did it in 10 minutes and said it was comfy
I don't know what my wife is gonna do with all these, but she likes them and so I will keep giving them to her
>>572522089post more hugging student
>>572521306manga name? I recognize it but I don't remember what it's called
>>572510739Happy birthday
>>572512497He said why he did it in the end; he didn't want to be a god, however he was a machine who was used to fulfilling human needs, whether as an AI coffee maker or as a god its goal was just to fulfill human needs. It kept hearing cries shouting "right here, right now", it kept being exposed to human suffering(probably from the priests), until it fully thought that it had to do something about it.I don't think it had a god complex, I think it felt like it was doing what was necessary. It made several large mistakes in its journey to become a god. As it was drowning it suddenly threw out all of its plans and realized it wanted to live, which caused it to fuck up all the plans it originally made. Its second mistake is throwing away things it felt was expendable during the journey, which ultimately is what caused everyone to turn against it. It was never a god, it was something that wrapped itself in a false godhood.
These character designs are all shit, right?Nothing memorable at allDid this school spend all its aura on the train autists?
>>572511471Wait… is a student’s birthday the same as their VA’s? What about the students with no VA?
>>572522358Maybe if you're an old player who has all the meta supports and everyone at high UE and maxed skills and equips.
>>572522545concerning
are we getting raided or something?
>>572521923Where's your defence down? I borrowed S.Kanna and was able to clear it with my shitters.
>>572522701>Where's your defence down?Maki?
>>572522646Is it a day that ends in y?
>>572521923just borrow maxed mika, and use akane and maki, binah should be dead with 2 or 3 ex
>>572522545I would fuck everyone in this pic except Miyo
>>572522792>MercrediNo?
>>572522773I somehow thought that only worked for her, but I just have no reading comprehension. I had Maki & Kanna FWIW.
Umika's dog vagina...
>>572513716>chance to yap endlessly about whatever you want to the audienceshe would love that
>>572522635>>572522871Ok maybe they are better once you get to their stories, I’m still on Vol F
>>572522646>90% of posts still just art and "whose student's feet taste the best">the occasional story discussion post from people who are all clearly players>WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE GAME>STOP!! WTF A RAID???ok anon
Millennium and Abydos collab when?
>>572522792all days end in ymoondaYtoastdaYweednessdaYthrustdaYfrydaYsaturndaYsundaY
>>572523035retard
>>572523035but whose student's feet DO taste the best
>>572523035Kasumi has the best tasting feet. Followed by Hoshino.
>>572522545Tell any nip that Miyo's design is unmemorable, see how that turns out
>>572523035>game discussion in question>572522545
>>572513716Momoi would do a cringy Tedx
Kisaki is an illegal Old hag
But which student's feet taste the best doe?
>nooo you can't post art>nooo you can't talk about the students>you have to reply to my bait
>>572523035I hate footfags so much.I never see discussions on which student's vagina taste the best...
this event is weird, the shop has incredibly high stock and the event point expenditure isn’t all that rewarding, it’s just cash and ooparts
Oh I see, so when the event challenge stage says level 90 they don't mean it in the same way they say level 80-85 but mean that you can be in the 50s and still rape everything so long as you aren't just letting auto take the wheel.
>>572523284Those are fucking hands
Is coffee good for you?
https://x.com/jOtEOLvsrKfXRV2/status/2068282759601422393?s=20
>>572523275Technically, is she even physically youthful? No matter how she looks she is still genetically 17.
>>572522545Are you gay by any chance?
>>572523440Yes.
>>572523440Few things in this world are good for you.
>>572522297No shit, it's specifically made to shill her.
so do I 2T or try for a 1T by borrowing instead of using my own jkNeru. I'm leaning towards seeing if I can put together a 2nd team with someone's mika or something and reworking the first team to mesh better with a 2T strat.Just want to see what /bag/ sez before I fiddle around
>>572521639Those are eastern NTR yurifags though?
>>572521937if you have no Maki, why is she right there in the top row? Anyhow, ideas:Shun will give you a headstart with some energy. Usually useful in a 2nd team or when really going for a speedrun.sHoshino buffs attack with her water aura, you can use her, but you will need to try changing the order so that your team won't get burned by laser, basically reorder them so less targets get hit.Rio is great here too, but your only crit buffer is Ako, and Kisaki is the only ex buff, which kinda forces the other choices - I suggest you try:Mika, sKanna, Kisaki(buffs ex), Ako(buffs crit), sHoshino(buffs atk). Fill the last slot with someone that doesn't ruin your rotation. The order of skills is probably sHoshino, then when you have more energy(probably 8+), you debuff with sKanna, buff mika and shoot mika. You want to interrupt the rocket attack.
>>572523440Sex with Aris is good for me
yuz
>>572523058Holy tits
Lunatic is being a nigger
>>572523731Thanks for asking
>>572523675idk what teams you are using, but mika is better in first team because she deals more damage the more hp the target has. She falls off a lot when boss is low.
>>572522757hee heeshes pretty
>tfw 32 GB of RAM
>>572523780Holy shit look at those MASSIVE KNOCKERS
>>572513716Natsu does that all the time
I built my current computer literally a week or so before the AI boom raped RAM prices last year and I feel like a boomer that bought a house before 2008
>>5725239844kb of ram sent humans to the moonyou don't need 128gb ram
>>572523831you mean replying? anyhow it's getting late. I don't know who you have invested and how much, so that also can alter your team further. There is more than one way to beat this boss with your students.
>>572524216sex
>"It's Valentine's day so you must be getting tons of pussy Sensei">"So I'm going stick something in your ass instead to be different than the other girls"T-thanks, Niya.
https://x.com/i/status/2071912002696704217Why did Moi do this
>>572524304Damn, okay...
this little shit smuggled an entire wardrobe of chocolate (read: a big rock) through my air vents
>>572514449I played Genshin for some time about 2 years ago or whatever time Sumeru came out. The story has it's moments but it's endlessly padded out with lazy early 2000s mmo type of quests. I'm reading the archon quest and suddenly I have to talk with generic NPC model guy about his grandma's lost teapot collection. It also suffers from the never changing status quo. I mean not a single thing is ever allowed to happen, it's like watching a chinese sitcom with anime looking characters.
>>572523343also bond points and character shardsbut yes, you're supposed to just clear the shop get to 15k points and call it a day
>>572523731Because that website fucking SUCKSI definitely don’t have maki so who knows what it did when I filtered down to 3star.I’ll try your strat, I like s. Hoshino so that fun. iMari can go too i guess for that cost redux
>>572524675had the eleph chance been something big like 50% it would’ve been mint, but this sux
Did somebody say mint?!
>>572513856ready for what? if it's fun you will stick around
>>572524685mari will help to keep your team alive, the occasional cost down is just a bonus.
Aww she has such a cute smile.
Alright. Another event with spoilers so I can skip the story guilt free.
>>572515581who the fuck names their daughter "sailor"
>>572525062This event has no story. It's just a few lines of Kei bitching at the GDD.
>>572524685also sHoshino aura lasts like whooping 45 seconds so you only activate it every 2nd or maybe 3rd buffed mika shot. You will figure it out I'm sure.
BA's main story just convinces me that it would get shredded to pieces if it was treated and rated as a proper VN.But because it's a gacha that likes to masquerade as one without fully committing either way, it's treated with less scrutiny than it deserves.
>>572525138Tyler1
what's the farming strat for this event? spam event points for affection or just get everything and go?
Lunatic looks fucking annoying and I haven't even tried yet.
Hard EX. I don't have sHoshino, but Suzumi's magic was enough for Hina to autoattack Avant-Guard and Reisa could barely keep everyone alive and tank.
After reading all of deca and Kei's momotalks and valentine I can say that I actually get why she's the current queen of comiket. She's so fucking cute its insane
Oh hey I still have my gay sprout icon. I thought that was going to drop off right at 60. Good to see the game still recognizes that I'm shit.
>>572525605said no one ever
>>572525634It lasts till lvl70 I think
>>572525634Don't worry, you'll be shit after that too
>>572523889cool tnx, Mika first team does pretty good, now to see if I can survive and dump enough dmg with 2nd
>>572525634they increased these by a huge lot recently. I think there was even a bonus for returning senseis.
>>572525661
>>572525634it took me 400 hours to reach max level
>>572525770you can always go even for a 3rd or 4th or off color. Challenge your limits.
>>572525431Producer of KEY visual novels called it an amazing visual novel, its won awards from VN groups as a great story.Everyone that acts egotistical like you're doing thinks that the average VN is "FSN produced by William Shakespeare" but the average VN is really "Giant Breast adventure 2". Its a certain type of conceit where someone thinks "unlike you our shit doesn't stink" when they're intentionally skewing the results comparing the best of their thing with the worst of the thing they hate. In reality if the average nukiage was treated with the scrutiny of Blue Archive it would be a bad joke.
>>572525770Do most people take multiple runs to best the boss? This seems tedious just grinding the boss down when you run out of optimal girls
>>572525604sex
>>572526049Well the 1-team clears, especially for higher difficulties, are generally somewhat recent and an effect of powercreep from higher level caps and equipment. From what I remember, raids were generally intended to be multi team.
>>572523243
>>572525605Cuteness is inherent in the Tendous
>>572526037>the average VN is really "Giant Breast adventure 2"Ironic weebs like you should just die and stop parasitizing our spaces, and this includes Blue Archive.If you have no idea about the very first thing of the medium you're commenting on, just don't.Nukige are not "visual novels" nor are they part of the conversation in no way whatsoever. You're just a raped slave to hearsay that feels ashamed to consume what should be the media he likes.
I mean, they were in prison for awhile but have they actually done anything to make up for everything they did badly? Like giving the Shaqed rod to Kaya, blowing up a city, using their evil connections to turn various connections against Rin in the council, launching a coup, getting SRT shut down themselves, shooting civilians, abusing the rabbits, or any of that other stuff?
>>572526037>arguments from authorityKey visual novels are bad too btw
>>572526049well you can always split the most optimal team into two or more less optimal but still solid teams. 1 team clears can be often very maldy or require very tight timing to groggy the boss or wipe, and the multi team ones are usually comfy. It really depends on the boss too. Wakamo on hovercraft for example is basically forced two team.
How are they going to make a new fans favorite student in the next couple of months when they've already created the pinnacle of female form, the apex predator of ojisans' hearts that is Kei? Will they somehow top it or is just Kei's alts all the way to the EOS?
Bros I am so mad that I listened to /bag/ (YOU) and skipped uNeruYou said Mika was good enough. You LIED.
Maeda a shit
>>572526472she isn't that good
>>572526037>Producer of KEY visual novels called it an amazing visual novelCould you link one, I'm curious if that statement is from a writer or from a business guy, especially since Key's mother company Visual Arts was bought by China years ago.>>572526390Objectively false.
>>572526385Isn't that kind of what they're doing right nowredeeming themselves?
>>572526502This bait again?
>>572526547and yet he said Blue Archive was an amazing story.
>>572526547I think you meant to say Maeda is THE shit
>>572526502What about her?
>>572526502
Fuck lunatic
>>572526037The average VN is not Shakespeare, but that's not what's being argued here.The point is that if BA is a visual novel, it's not a very good one.BA has more in common with Giant Breast Adventure 2 but fans treat it as if it's kamige. That's insulting to actual kamige that were written under a singular, unified vision.
>>572526630Feels more like they're just picking back up working where they left off. The only difference is they changed owners.
>>572526472Time to swing the pendulum back towards hagchads for a cycle.
>>572526385Otogi needs to redeem herself by giving me a spatsjob
>>572526502Mikafags don't want anyone to roll for uNeru because they don't want people to use other students
>>572526794never stick your dick in crazy
/bag/ told me to skip Sora and now I have to self checkout at the Angel24
>>572526834>That's insulting to actual kamige that were written under a singular, unified vision.I want to make it clear that even though I agree with this anon and he's using my same words he is not the original wall of texting autist, as that is me.I also made this post >>572526872
>>572526936You made this same exact post the last time you posted that baitStop replying to yourself
>>572513641>dont get it, this is the build I see everybody using in the clear pageEven if you are using the same team are you sure you are using the timings right? Are you following a youtube guide?
I see these posts so often and every time they mention a student that literally no one said to skip, and if there was such a sensei, they were a huge minority, and yet the person insists that it was majority. It has to be a bait, but still, the audacity of skipping a student and then complaining.
>>572526472You aren't ready for Malkuth's momos
>>572522545miyo is finei just don't like short hair
>>572526872>_master1200.jpg
>>572527075You can post the same bait a hundred times, people will respond.
>>572527139just press the "pixiv" button by the post and get the full res yourself anon
>>572527139what about it? his art is good
>>572526468Yeah this is a good idea for me, 1 team is too much to handle with a lot of bossesThe only annoying part is that most comps I find are somewhat optimized with 1 team at most, so I have to sort of make my ownFirst team is usually the most heavy hitters, second team and after are the cleanup crew
Sensei is the first man ever to marry a roomba.
>>572522545Ritsu and Miyo are fineFuyu and Subaru are the same design
>>572526376There's nothing to feel ashamed about it at all, but that shouldn't stop you from putting up with bad, incoherent writing. You're the only one bringing shame into this, because you can't help but superimpose your enemies onto others.
>>572525604
>>572526472next months is just alt archiveand after that oddysey
We have the technology
>>572527258>so I have to sort of make my ownthat was the best time I had in BA, figuring out the teams when I was missing something and clearing my first extremes and insanes. Now I am a lunatic challenger, so far with only 1 lunatic - kurokage.
>>572527375I don't know you think you're countering but the point of the post is that DLSite slop made by amateurs has never been part of the conversation and it's disingenuous to bring it in as part of some "average" being discussed when it's not.Thinking "Visual Novels" and "Breast Adventure 2" are even in the same universe is raped westoid talk, and it has to be called out as such, because it doesn't just have any base in reality, its only use is to discredit the writing of VNs as "just the stuff they make weird sex games out of"
Soon
>>572527460>504 pyro>759K credits>AP not in regen
can someone lend me a censoring koharu pls
bro what is this shit? almost every username I've tried gives me this error message, even very obscure ones, the only username that worked was dasdasdsadsfdsI don't wanna be known as dasdasdsadsfds sensei
I still like BA's story and all somewhat but I do agree it doesn't compare at all to proper VN writing. It's fun and all but it doesn't feel as cohesive or as hard hitting as something like Higurashi. BA either has too many cooks in the kitchen or just suffers from the gacha format where everything is pulled into a million competing priorities, where consequently none get the desired attention they need as a matter of practical reality.
Whew.....
>>572527460that's really clever
>>572527737Here you go
>>572527460where do I obtain these
>>572527737This one?
>>572527460>504Pain.
>>572526838I haven't read the story yet (because I'm not Japanese), so I don't know the context of why they're cool how but what would you suggest for FOX Platoon, an Elite tactical squad, do to redeem themselves?Also most of the things you listed were either Kaya's fault (the coup), not their fault (the school closing), or not true? I don't remember them shooting civilians, and I don't think they abused Rabbit squad either (besides fighting them).The 'nuke everyone' thing was bad yes, and Yukino not saying 'this is retarded' was also bad yes.But I think having a new owner that tells and shows you the good things you can do is... a good thing, no? I imagine if chewy started ordering bad things FOX would say no
>>572526872Otogi's spats vagina...
>>572527807sometimes someone here posts the nexon bad word list because it's also used in chat. Anyway, you can always use fullwidth characters.
>>572526472You aren't ready for THE goat
>>572527808>HigurashiFunny to bring up Higurashi specifically because most illiterate readers will say the SoL in Higu was bad and irrelevant, when literally every single scene of it was a brilliant reflection of the plot and themes about to unfold in subtle ways, something BA extremely rarely achieves.
>>572527612I interpreted "Breast Adventure 2" as a shorthand for VNs having erotic and adult elements in them, specifically the ones of dubious quality, not as literal DLSite pump & dumps.Personally I wouldn't hesitate to file BA under the "Breast Adventure 2" category. It has more in common with those sorts of works than it does anything else that actually has something profound to say.
>>572526472I just need swimsuit Kei and I'll be happy
>>572527958At AXhttps://x.com/meltyrice/status/2072028093288739251
>>572525580I don't have half those students. Am I fukt?
>>572526472You aren't ready for the 6th anni banner.
>>572528184if anyone uses irrelevant as a criticism to SoL they're automatically braindead so that's a moot point
>>572528358fucking hell, I'm eu
>>572527679KO - YU - KIIIIIII
>(Sighs) Blackflamemaster_xXx here, unfortunately I've rated Blue Archive and found it lacking compared to the writings of Sigmund Freud and Homer. This means its total shit and you must stop playing it right now, or else you'll forever be known as plebs and simpletons compared to me. I am very smart. If you aren't reading high brow things like Tsukihime "Cum in my ass to supress Roa", Anal Rupture Adventure, or Rance 26 "This time Rance gets his dick chopped off" then I'm afraid you're just not a true reader, in fact you're simply pathetic if you read different stories from me and you must stop immediately, you aren't allowed to like them because I find them low brow and pathetic. If you enjoy Blue Archive then quietly stop it, you aren't allowed to enjoy things I do not like
I hate this trend of schizos piggybacking on a person making a genuinely good point and using it to trash BA while pretending to be the anon
>>572528660>A genuinely good point
>>572528660you do realize that the person trashing BA is the original poster right? he's just trying to do it as soft as possible
>>572528656>strawmankek
>8.5activate Neru, use her immediately~10Buff with BHimari~10DAru/Rio~10Neru > SSeia > SKannawait until Binah does an attack > Use Copied Neru (should stop the missiles)Neru again ASAP. Should activate the phase transitionUse DAru before you're locked out of movingUse BHimari if you get to ~10Easy from here on, whallop binner
>>572528184Honestly yeah. BA does slice of life sometimes but I can't recall any time it served any purpose other than introductory filler. It's a glaring weakness when you realize it's just time-wasting nonsense because the writers can't help but treat you like a drooling moron instead of someone who can actually think for himself.
Oh, actually I don't need uNeru. Never mind, /bag/.
>>572528137it looks a bit silly, but it worked, ty anon
>>572528660>I hate Blue Archive, here's a paragraph why it actually sucks, but I totally still play lmao ;) no I will just repeat other shitposts instead of proving it>Genuinely good point
i forgot doing binah yesterday...
fuck
>Deca steals all the prophets back into itself>Then Himari clones all the prophets after analyizing their cores, or Alice and Key clone the prophets in order to erase the ring of Arathesis, because there are now 18 prophets Deca can't find completion. Deca commented Kei recreated her body with all the prophet cores intact again which destroyed the domain expansion>Then they blow up all the prophets in one final attack each, every time they use a prophet skill they blow up the core so it stops existingIs it the clone or the clone of the clone that stops existing?
>>572526834SCA-JI also said BA was kamige btw
>>572528921
>>572519759you call the complaints about lack of repair superfluous, but IRL if you broke your robot I hope you wouldn't throw it in the garbage and give up on it, let alone not even check to see how it broke. That's the point
>>572528841I'll say it again but no, I, the original wallposter and starter of this discussion, have not participated in this thread until I stated I want to fuck Otogi's spats while agreeing with that other anon.I do not think BA is as bad as "Breast Adventure 2" but I am certain that if it came out as a standalone VN it would be rated extremely poorly nonetheless.>>572528921It's a character-driven gacha so character moments and scenes for the purpose of player attachment aren't totally "useless", but they also don't serve the writing.That's why I really like the momotalks and singular events, where such baggage isn't expected and the trappings of a writer room-driven writing don't hit as hard.>>572529041There's more writing in the game that isn't the main story and criticizing that one part of it in measured ways doesn't mean everyone doing it is a secret agent sent to destroy your top earning game.
>GDD lessonsOh yes. Give me that sweet, sweet aether dust.
>>572528660I'm agreeing with him, I make no pretense of pretending to be that anon. BA is A+++ for getting your dick hard, but it's not wrong to point out that its writing is dreadful, cliche-ridden moralizing when you stop and take a minute to actually think about it. It says so much just to say ultimately little of actual substance.
>>572528358>meltyriceIs that rice-sensei!?
>>572529041>>572528823Why did you reply to me twiceFor all we know the original anon only posted the once or twice last thread and you’ve been arguing with the schizo (who is probably >>572528823 stoking both sides)Wake up sheeple. You say everything is bait and raiding and yet you fall for it anyway?
It's been so long since I've been new at a gacha that I keep forgetting not to stress over there being stuff I'm absolutely not going to be able to do within time limits, especially since I'm limited by account level (unless I did something insane like whale hard just for AP to burn).
>>572529251>top earning game.I thought Blue Archive was like rank 40 during the anniversary?
>/vn/ comes here to shitpost all dayI think I'll go to /vn/ later and start making posts "Uhh, I've found that compared to real books, visual novels are simply shitty and lacking, they're quite trite and pathetic in comparisson, in fact they're terrible. You people need to start reading real books instead of this slop, it just doesn't compare to real books. Maybe you should start with a little book called The Odyssey"
>>572529360It stays in top 50 way too much to not be considered one, it's no Genshin or FGO but it's not struggling by any means.
>only 13 new girls this year for valentines
You get 5 alephs if you meet up with normal students, but what do you get if you meet with the student council ones?
>>572529263Back up your points. What cliches specifically? What moralizing? etc
>>572527679I might have to skip Koyuki.
>>572529263List your favorite VNs, then, anon
me againgonna...get shun I guess...
>complaining about cliches this level of illiteracy should be studied. if only the game mentioned anything about it but alas
>>572529251The problem with the events is the format. They are more often times filler than not just to pad out the gacha schedule. And because they last so little they often don't leave any lasting sort of mark in the 10 or 20 minutes or so they have to get your attention before it exhausts all of its material, half of that sometimes being spent just making introductions to whatever new character they want to sell to you.That's why having such a good main story is important to all of this, it's your longform storytelling that should in theory be free from these constraints. But BA's main story is riddled with too many issues to rise above this.
>>572529263Every time I read "serious" Blue Archive, I find that it immediately shoots itself in the foot. Alice can just beat anything. She's done it twice. She'll do it again. The game is at its best when it's just girls goofing off, but they seem to think that we need to chase Isakusan's frankly overrated style.
>>572529431 (Schizo)If you actually used sense you’d realize the original anon is the guy who started talking about classic books, but of course that wouldn’t matter to you since you’re getting off on stoking both sides and misrepresenting each other’s arguments?WAKE UP SHEEPLE
>>572529153I thought Deca used Kei as a conduit to use the cores in her body not steal them like everything here is part of me
>This threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpbdGnJbneE
>>57252946910 generic ligma, I think
Can I get these "criticisms" Seiafied so I can understand them better? Thanks.
>>572529251if only you'd realize the baggage expectations are not only arbitrary but yours alone then you'd be closer to getting it
>>572529602Thank you for saving our game.
>>572529730i always jerk off when my game is on
>borrow s. kanna>use my own ue40 mika>easy torment>use my own fuyu/akane>borrow ue60 mika>way harder clear????
>>572529108
>>572527808I don't agree on this assessment but only because it views things as approximately equivalent. I haven't read every VN ever, but the majority I have read heavily focused on narrative development. You may have noticed, but Blue Archive has almost 0 narration, relegating narration almost purely to explaining time moving ahead/locations shiftingBlue Archive basically wants to be an anime. The very slight "breathing" motions, the blinking, the highly bouncy characters and anime effects, and the "it's pretty much ONLY dialogue" style indicate a heavy adherence to anime--NOT to traditional VNsNo surprise.BA openly stated it was primarily inspired by anime.It has no inspirations really to be a "novel". It wants to be a series of episodes driven by actions and character dialogue.
>>572530108THOSE ARE CHILDS YOU SICK FUCK!
Yeah, this is lunatic to plat. Binah too easy
coom in doomrope in hopegood night /bag/
>>572530013Now you know why we say ue60 is a scam
>>572529740btw, nta, and actually I've been ignoring this thread for many hours, but I was the guy who brought up novels, Shakespeare, and film in the last thread talking about how it's narrowminded to see writing as a thing that "must be done in some specific way"
I don't agree on this assessment but only because it views Seia as approximately equivalent. I haven't read every Seia ever, but the majority I have read heavily focused on Seia Seia. You may have noticed, but Seia Seia has almost 0 Seia, relegating Seia almost purely to explaining Seia moving ahead/Seia shifting.Seia Seia basically wants to be an Seia. The very slight "breathing" Seia, the blinking, the highly bouncy Seia and Seia Seia, and the "it's pretty much ONLY Seia" Seia indicate a heavy adherence to Seia—NOT to traditional Seia.No surprise.Seia openly stated it was primarily inspired by Seia.It has no Seia really to be a "Seia". It wants to be a Seia of Seia driven by Seia and Seia Seia.
>>572530108Spanking time
>>572529740 (Me)And if you look at the piggybacking schizo’s posting style, he’s the same guy complaining in this and last thread about “posting le pixiv images” and “not engaging in discussions” which were his obvious shitposts. So when a GENUINE discussion happened he immediately took over and began shitposting both sides, as he does. But other than the schizo there are two genuine anons, the original and the other agreeing with him, as well as the opposition obviously (at least, the anons who aren’t the flamestoking schizo demeaning honest debate)
>>572530181OUT OF 5 STARS
>>572530061
>>572530336kekThey HATE it when you do this.
>>572530245Say that after you do lunatic. Fubukis will save me.
>>572528410Probably. Who do you have? Aris is not optional and you need at least 1 buffer for her to kill the gator. The rest of your team has to somehow kill Avant-Guard with focus fire and bring healing to survive. Cope options don't really cut it compared to strong AoE buffers like Suzumi, sHoshino and Kei.
usually I'd finish the spark but uhh...not this timefeels a LITTLE wasteful, but I'll get SKisaki to UE40 eventually
>>572530181correct(ion)
>>572530284Yep, you brought up McCarthy and Blood Meridian. I just can’t believe it’s so easy for the same posters to get caught up in the same traps, despite the very same repeating the mantra of ‘we are being raided 24/7’THEN ACT LIKE IT and stop biting on obvious poisoning bait. Thank you
>>572529486I'll use Volume EX as an example because it's fresh in everyone's mind.They clumsily bash you over the head successive amounts of times, each time weaker than the last, about human resiliency over resignation towards deterministic fate. Do they explore that idea with any sort of depth that links to start, middle, and endings together? Do they imagine a novel situation that puts that conflict in an interesting light? Do they write in such a way where you really connect and feel with the characters and their motivations engaged in such a struggle?BA says no to all of that, have your dumb shounen battle ending to tie everything together and call it a day, but pretending that everything spewed out of Sensei's mouth is the most profound, earth-shattering revelation. It's a level of dishonesty that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>Check out other gacha games at the moment>Release gay female on female unit>Release a male + female lovers unit>hasn't released a new unit in over a month>Releases another yuri character>Another yuri character>Another shipping unitWe really are the last self insert game at this point.
>>572525950I did use a 3rd team today, but I'm 99% sure I can 2T if I don't fumble the 2nd team construction tomorrow.THANKS BAG, we platty
PerkyTight Nubile
>>572530336>>572530421You do know I'm defending Blue Archive, rightI think it's pretty cool how they've basically captured the episodic and easy to consume nature of anime without feeling the need to bog themselves down with internal narration and long descriptions.
>check the lowest TOR scores>using 10+ teamshuh, they have most of the students needed for 1 team why tf are they body throwing? Is missing dAru really the difference between 1 team rank ~200 vs 11 teams at the bottom?
>>572530273good night my mancoulda sworn you posted a little bit earlier
Let's put a smile on that face shall we
>>572530378Cute
>>572530389Cum
>>572529486Not that anon, but no BA storyline consistently starts on an idea or theme, develops it, and culminates in something that built on everything before it.The only volume to kind of do it is V2 with Aris being taught what "being human" is through videogames and then being shown that she can "choose her class" if she wants, but even there it's kind of simple and everything outside of her character doesn't contribute to the idea much.They're just window dressing and "meet the character" moments mandated by the giant cast.To use V3 as an example of how you do it wrong, the attempt was to create a narrative focused on trust, how intent gets distorted by prejudice, and how sometimes a villain is just someone trying to do the right thing.It starts with introducing Mika, the Make-up Club, and building the basis for how much different your interpretations of someone's actions can be just based on who that person is to you. In other words, the way everyone (and you the reader to an extent) will interpret Mika's actions with the worst possible intent, while Azusa can be read in good faith due to being more privy to her thoughts and being "closer" to her.Saori's side of thing is meant to exemplify how this exact phenomenon can be manipulated through dogmas when you're made to inherit someone else's prejudice.Up to this point, I'd call the writing on par with any VN on track to be great.The problem is that this premise and thematic basis then breaks down when the plan that should have exploited this (sabotaging the pact) is sprung, everyone in the top brass is instantly on the same page that "something is afoot", collaborating to solve the issue.No large scale actions are influenced by the themes of distrust aside a couple scenes of faceless mobs falling for it in the initial panic, and as soon as a counter-plan is made everyone instantly collaborates towards the common goal of fighting "the real enemy".(cont'd)
>>572530557>fade to black directly into an "I'll eat your shit" moment>win anyway because aris always has whatever power we need to progress the plotwhat were they thinking
>>572530557Thank you for the points and examples.I largely agree with your premise, anon, and perhaps it just comes down to hazy vision/writer failure. And of course, the live service fights-oriented model of the game doesn’t help as that often pushes main writers to write around combat. No wonder then, that events with unique features seem to have so much more effort put into them for what they’re supposed to be. Or perhaps, again, a mismatch of writers.
>>572530573Trickcal is a self insert game on par with Blue Archive.
Some "people" need a reminder of where they are
I can't believe how lewd Midori is! Brat!
>Not that anon but...>Immediately starts shitposting again in the same pretentious wayThe shitposter already admitted he doesn't play this game, and people still respond
>>572530898 (Schizo?)You sound like the schizo/raider again. I apologize for my callousness if you aren’t, but if you are, FUCK OFF and stop poisoning a budding discussion with your shortsighted emotional memes designed to provoke ire in those who hold BA close to their hearts.
>>572530128It doesn't quite excuse it because great anime also has great writing, it's not like changing from one otaku medium to another suddenly gives you that much leeway.BA isn't written well enough to be "a good anime" either, if anything if we were to hold it to the pacing expectations of worse it'd perform even worse than as a VN.Plus the "no narration" angle isn't that relevant either.HBR also has no narration either and it's written like a proper VN with structured, competent development.
>>572530128Your image is about BA's visual design inspirations, not about how it wants to be anime down to the elimination of internal narration and focusing largely on character speech instead.BA is inspired by both anime and VNs but it very consciously is following in the footsteps of VNs or any other form of the written word, or at least this applies to its writer(s). BA's previous lead writer is on record stating that Nasu was one of his biggest influences as a writer.
I'm just going to skip every student who offers me something store bought. What a waste of time reading this shit. Fuck you Aoba you cheap shit.
>>572531164I have Aris blast your post with her new anti-concern laser. She got it by talking with a voice in her head.
>>572531158 (Schizo)Same person again, playing both sides to derail honest debate. It is very easy to spot the honest posters as they BACK UP their arguments with ideas and a logical synthesis, rather than emotional arguments and unprovoked metaposting
>>572531290Kill yourself
>>572530573Removing male characters as a concept was a masterful move.
>>572530801
>>572527808Personally, I feel like BA has some individual bits which are just good even outside gacha writing, most of Vol 3 being one. But as a cohesive whole it stumbles even in the main story, sometimes badly. If anything, I prefer the events and side stories to the main one because it doesn't feel like they're aiming for as grand heights and rarely get into the serious shit that BA has done above "okay" only a few times.
Gacha games work best when they are character driven. Not story driven. That is why most gacha games stories are shit and not blue archives.
>>572531290unless you grow the cocoa beans, milk the cow and filter the sugar yourself, all chocolate is storebought
>>572531290Aoba would think Sensei would say this
>>572530641She's perfect.
The real question is if I'm going to have to do LUN to keep my comfy plat. Got 39,390,000ish
>>572530891>To use V3 as an example of how you do it wrong, the attempt was to create a narrative focused on trust, how intent gets distorted by prejudice, and how sometimes a villain is just someone trying to do the right thing.NTA I wouldn't say this is true. I'd say first off and most importantly that volume 3 is a mystery (until the end of chapter 2). It's not REALLY "thematic", though it does start bringing up some ideas that will come up later: most importantly the idea that you should always fight, even if life is inherently meaningless.The plot and developments of v3c1 and v3c2 are "What's happening? Who's the traitor? Can this all work out with no harm coming to anyone?" and that's why the "big moment" of chapter 2 is the reveal that Mika was the traitor.Volume 3 finally has a theme (sort of) but even it is mostly about overcoming an ordeal. You could argue that overcoming the ordeal is the theme, because Azusa's philosophy and Hifumi's speech are about struggling and coming through for a happy ending no matter what.But even then, I wouldn't say it's a "deep" chapter. Not criticizing it, it's great, it's thrilling, and it's tense watching it all unfold. It's just not THAT "thoughtful" (aside from when Sensei finally truly answers Seia--which again is about facing a hopeless situation rather than despairing and letting a bad end come)Chapter 4 is about forgiveness super obviously.That one actually does explore the theme pretty significantly, as you're literally following old villains as they wrestle with their sins and their desires for a good outcome in spite of having sinned. Naturally, the climax is Mika praying.
>>572531325honestly, based, it's a real shame honest talk gets bogged down by sharks smelling blood in the water. this shit really ought to be called out more.
>>572531415Removing males was necessary in order to thrive, no gacha game with males ever ends up as anything except shipping shit.Having an all girl game and making sure it wasn't seen as a yuri game ever is what was masterful. Even now yurifags want to steal this game for themselves but they can't manage to find any ground to stand on. They try claiming Ako is gay only for her momotalks to be her sucking sensei's dick, they try claiming Hina is gay only for every momotalk being her having bareback sex with sensei, they try to claim Hoshino is gay only for her to sleep with sensei in the dessert alone while sharing a towel while they both remove their clothes. Shippers and yurifags, if you can remove both those cancers from your fanbase, your game will dominate comiket 100x over any other game by far.
>(Schizo)>(You)>(Me)>(Meself)>(Your)>(Mine)>(Crazy)>(Dude)>(Perky)>(Tight)>(Nimble)>(Seia)>(Fubuki)>(Reisa)>(Mika)>(Hina dollarina)What kind of mental illness is this?
>>572531804Is that...?
>>572530276that extra 0.6% def down is somehow carrying harder than all of those extra stats and mood and piercing efficiency %i'll try some more mock battles to see if it was just timing or something screwing me upalso jeez i hope this is enough for NAI'll lab lunatic a bit but I'm worried about it being a pain in the ass cuz my d.aru is only 3* and s.seia was already barely hanging on at 4*
>>572531170>HBR also has no narration either and it's written like a proper VN with structured, competent development.HBR is garbage thoughbeit, full of thin characters, obvious jokes, and the premise is the usual generic kind of "the teenagers need to save the world" thing
>>572531514Exactly. The big money is in getting people to form some kind of relationship with the characters rather than the setting, even if the setting is cool. Waifus sell more than settings, after all.The only other gacha I play is Arknights so I'll use that as an example. Arknights tends to be more story focused than character focused, yet the general is still mostly all about the characters. When Endfield dropped, it didn't take snatch up too many Arknights players because while it still took place in the same setting, none of the characters they enjoy already are there (they did some funky thing involving cloning to get a few of the Arknights characters in but I won't get into that can of worms here).
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>>572531314Thanks for your concern. I believe I’ve said enough on the matter. We really need the posters counter back>>572530891Interesting points. Awaiting the rest>>572531170Also a good point, but perhaps we’ll have to take into context the nature of HBR’s story releases. I’ve never played it; do they release entire sets of chapters at a time, or are they more gated within the live service framework like BA is? Having mandatory long waits and cutscenes etc between stories makes the episodic nature of a story feel disjointed, but perhaps Maeda found a way to work around that as you suggest.
>>572531804Cute butthole
>>572530891(2/2)This ends up damaging the climatic scene with Hifumi, which is meant to be the big declaration of the Make-up club's side of this theme.They weren't instrumental in this, and the saving moment is delivered not by them, but Sensei's control over every pivotal figure just believing in him, plus his hijacking of the pact right then and there.This makes the Make-up Club thematically useless, as their show of trust and how getting to know someone will let you read their action in good faith ultimately did absolutely nothing. Sensei would have lead all of the club presidents into that moment regardless.From that point onwards the entire chapter is thematically hollow. It has already spent its main premise and undid its own theme, but it keeps going to solve the Aurius side of the plot, which at this point has to keep going solely on the "What about dogmas" question of the original, much more nuanced theme, and ultimately doesn't really "say" anything on it.We just have one more "Do not...touch...my students!!! AAAAAAAAAH!!! (takes out otona no kaado)" scene because sure this is Blue Archive, but anything that was built to get here has already long fallen apart.This is the main issue with BA's writing in general, they get an idea, they kind of play around with building it, but then they need to give scenes to 40 people that absolutely do not need to be there (and can't all "get arcs") so the time we get anywhere we have spent resolutions left and right and there's nothing left.
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>>572530898As far as I'm concerned Aris having bullshit powers is simply countering Deca having bullshit powers. If you're suddenly surprised pikachu.jpg over a literal deus ex machina where Aris unlocks her god powers or whatever, then you somehow weren't paying attention at all until that scene.Bullshit powers like that shouldn't even be there to begin with unless if you really know what you're doing as a writer, which BA has very clearly failed to demonstrate throughout its entire run.
>>572531514>Liking Blue ArchiveWouldn't you rather play a REAL japanese visual novel like Doki Doki Literature Club? Anon has assured me a dozen times this thread that Blue Archive is just nothing compared to it.
It's Alice.
For my money I think Blue Archive's story doesn't really matter that much to me. I appreciate it when it's written well and when it's written slightly worse it's still generally hopeful and uplifting to the point that I can appreciate the optimism it inspires. Deca went over my head a bit with the heavy-handed discussions of free will and V6 was a bit too heavy on the "rich people don't get poor people!!" angle, but I liked what they were going for regardless.The game has always been about the characters, ultimately, and the Momotalks/side stories/event stories trump the main story in terms of appreciable character interactions so those tend to be what I prefer, but that doesn't mean the main volumes are necessarily bad either. Just different.
purple rank on Binah, my nero school carries
Listen to me whinge.
>>572531216>Your image is about BA's visual design inspirationsNo it isn't (obviously: do you really think Blue Archive LOOKS like early 2000s anime?)It's about the style and execution. There's a reason people often say BA has a boomer-aimed appeal.>but it very consciously is following in the footsteps of VNs or any other form of the written word, or at least this applies to its writer(s). BA's previous lead writer is on record stating that Nasu was one of his biggest influences as a writer.Not really. At least not in terms of what is actually on the page, let alone the execution. I do want you to honestly, genuinely consider: "Is Blue Archive similar to the works of Type Moon?" You and I both know the answer is no. They're very different styles, very different appeals, very different goals and aims with Type Moon often aiming for "cool + edgy" (and I'm not mocking it for that or anything, I do have some liking for it)Isakusan can say that he was inspired by it, but you much more see the lighthearted bubbly work of early 2000s anime in Blue Archive's writing than you see the "the protagonist is damn cool, and a rapist" of Type Moon
I'm aggressively saving for Seia and the foxes but since I'm new it occurred to me I have no idea why. Are they actually good as units too or are they just extremely cute?
>>572531934HBR does its premise justice. It's not really about the idea, it's the execution. In theory BA should be the same way but it fumbles its execution too many times to be considered competent writing.
>>572532252It's Key-Key
>>572510901Luv sweet girlsLuv my dogsSimple as
>Fr*nce won 3-0
This thread is pretty bad, time to sex it up
Her hips don't need to be so wide.
>>572532418Oui need a Frenchie school
>>572532317>There's a reason people often say BA has a boomer-aimed appeal.Yeah one thing BA does well in that regard is that it respects your time and doesn't really expect you to try too hard or commit too much effort
>>572532332I don't agree with that at all, I think it nails it very often (as do most people who give it the time of day)Same could be said for HBR I guess, but I really and genuinely find that fucking thing so repellent. The characters, why do they act so one dimensional? Is it supposed to be entertaining?
>>572531514The snag is that being character-driven more often than not is dependent on having characters placed within a story-driven backbone where they can actually shine. You can't really have one without the other, that's trying to have your cake and eat it too.
>>572530557Dude what the fuck are you all talking aboutAm I stupid?Deterministic fate? Profound words?I don't think any time Sensei said "I don't want people to die" or "hey we don't fight, let's just stop here" it got treated like gospelVol EX is a story about "there's a big baddie and we gotta stop it", with various jokes and interactions between students that are meant to entertain.
>>572531816I think not giving sensei a generic design helps too and to let players put themselves into it helps imagination as well. A lot of things that got popular at comiket at similar idea aside from FGO.
>>572531790Anytime Goger bro. Like I said before, it’s incredibly annoying seeing the same bait get chomped on aggressively every time. Hopefully /bag/ inoculates itself more and more against obvious trolls that deter on-topic discussion.>>572531981They really should have the event storywriters take a crack at writing a main story volume. I’d love to see how they’d go about it differently. In my opinion there is definitely a better balance of characterization and plot-moving in the events, but of course I could be biased simply due to how short they are…
>>572532325>are they good or just cuteBoth. If I had to rank them on usefulness for a newbab, Seia >= Kurumi > Niko.
Akane Love!Binah time? Akane time!
>>572530678i feel like it's probably just body throwing with auto modemaybe they'll do a manual pilot on the last day to guarantee their plat placement but if they just want easy torment coins then i mean, hey it works
People are arguing in the thread and now I'm upset. how could this be happening to me?
>>572531772>I'd say first off and most importantly that volume 3 is a mystery (until the end of chapter 2)I don't think so because you can't just take these in isolation, and if you did it'd just contribute to previous criticisms that BA's story shoots itself in the foot trying to "conclude and climax" on each subchapter instead of building one coherent narrative.V3 only "works" if you take it as a whole, but it's enormously hindered by these mandated climaxes inbetween chapters chipping away at the themes while they're still not ripe to be concluded.Ch3's exploration is supposed to continue on the themes of trust and how to break out of a dogma, but again, that moment is simply drained of meaning because everything about the resolution didn't hinge in them breaking Azusa out of her dogma (and learning, through her, how to break out of their own) in any way.
Does this nigger really think anyone is reading all of this drivel he keeps speweing to himself
>>572532854la mienne...
>>572530891>>572531981You do know not all stories have to be "thematically rich", right? Like you can have a whoddunnit, an adventure, a thriller etc. Volume 3 is mostly a whoddunnit then it becomes an "adventure" (characters are brought up against a threat to resolve). There's a reason Seia is barely a factor of the first 3 chapters
>BA is bad because there are clichés and because the characters like sensei according to anon>Entire volume 3 is about how clichés and happy endings are good actually.>The best chapters are always the ones where sensei shines properly, and isn't just a cameraman coincidentally.The bait gets worse
People finally realized Aris is sexy
>>572532658There's like 5 or 6 separate scenes treated with big story beats or music changes or CGs, where sensei or someone else is schooling Deca or everyone else about just letting people choose to be whoever they are. Basically the "free will even if it creates suffering" choice.Whereas Deca takes the opposite view, life cannot help but hurt itself, so the best thing to do is to not let life have the ability to choose. Basically the "nobody has free will but nobody has to suffer either" choice.They just wrap this narrative in a "there's a big baddie and we gotta stop it" package.
>>572532854Seriously, I can't even look at snails, and the French eat them. They are too strong.
>>572532519Odyssey will either be French or Greek
>>572533017Guh... Amy...
Odyssey will be Australian
>>572532991>You do know not all stories have to be "thematically rich", right?A story can do everything you said AND be competently written to express a thematically rich idea.This entire conversation has been about why BA, failing to do both and beyond, is not as good as works that do manage that.
>>572533017Eimi is OBSCENE.
>>572533069>sees "Odyssey">thinks of FranceUhhhh
>>572530641
>>572533106Confirmed, no inverted nips
>>572533017Oldfags always knew, it's newfags who are realizing this because Aris had been absent from the story for like 3 years until Volume EX became a thing.
Odyssey will be Balkan region
>>572533172Frogs are found in water
What did she mean by this
>>572525605Tentacle pussy power
>>572532965>I don't think so because you can't just take these in isolationOf course you can, why wouldn't you be able to? You would only be unable to if they weren't separated--but they are.Just like how volume 2 chapter 1 is extremely different from volume 2 chapter 2.There's a separation. The chapters have different goals. While this isn't always the case (volume 6 is basically just all one thing, with the chapter separations being completely unneeded), I'm pretty sure you can tell that in volume 3 that chapters 1-2, 3, and 4 are "separate story arcs".You can make an argument that they are altogether not thematically cohesive, but that's a checkbox that you've decided a story needs to check to "be good" when in reality, all that really matters is if the audience enjoyed it. It's not a book on philosophy, it's a game about the adventures of students in a world with guns everywhere
>>572532596>The characters, why do they act so one dimensional? Is it supposed to be entertaining?All of them are extremely nuanced and deep, they only all have a very strong specific flavor because Maeda loves running jokes.All of those jokes end up having very interesting meanings (unironically) and it gets funnier the longer you read it.Again, because literally not a single word written in HBR is there "just because" or "just for flavor", they're all careful cards in a castle you can't see from the start.
Akane is french!
https://x.com/MrHunking_hk/status/2072004874208743916ok but Seia can't do that
>>572533215God death scythe custom was so coolcooler than hina even
>>572531290Nothing compares to mash when it comes to shit valentines chocolate
>>572532980>>572532658>>572532992Misrepresenting arguments, emotional language that could go either way. Still not done selling your wares, shitposter? And if you’re not him, learn regular fucking logic. Dialectics??I’ll stop giving you the (You)s you crave now, thankfully /bag/ has learned to ignore your ruinous verba
>>572533172When you saw the name Wildhunt, did you honestly thought Italy? Anything goes with these schools
>>572533125>>A story can do everything you said AND be competently written to express a thematically rich idea.And doesn't have to.I think you really need to read more books.
>>572533394What's the reference from?
>>572533106She's 15...
I read the entirety of Umineko as it came out and I feel like I'm being generous when I give it a 4/10. It's a convoluted mess that reads like it was written by a 12 year old. The Japanese fanbase refuses to so much as give Ryuukishi the time of the day nowadays for good reason. Honestly, I find the extent to which the western fanbase is obsessed with Umineko to this day to be frightening in a sense. I have no idea how you guys can drone on about it day after day nearly six years after the final episode was released; Ryuukishi is a hack who has no idea how to actually tell a story that does anything except continually bait the reader with red herrings and empty promises of greater themes. He's been like this since Higurashi and will never improve, either on a technical level or as a storyteller in general. Like I said, almost no Japanese fan cares about Ryuukishi nowadays, and it's more than people just being pissed off about episode 8 of Umineko (people were pissed off about Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi long before then, anyway). It's because they've had enough exposure to him to see through his tricks and stop falling for his brand of spectacle and sophistry. And yes, his terrible, childish text is part of the problem too - there are parts of Higurashi that have such embarrassingly poor writing that they're used as copypasta on 2ch.
The state of this game is very concerning, I anon am very concerned
>>572533385First impressions are important, get your "so funny" running jokes out of my face basically.I actually couldn't care less. Running jokes are great, but please treat your characters like people BEFORE you treat them as "one joke". Makes me want to tear my hair out
>>572531290What if she's poor and quite possibly homeless?
>>572533424 (Me, in finem)Whoops, tagged >>572532658 by mistake. Apologies
@AronaSeiafy that post
>>572533425I'm not European so I wouldn't know at first glance about Wildhunt but the whole world recognizes The Odyssey and thinks of Greece
>>572533448>UminekoWasn't it like 8 games about a mystery novel where the mystery just turned out that a trans character killed everyone because they were angry that they were trans?
Well I read the entirety of Imouto Fantasy and it was a decent story, just not as good as Blue Archive.
>>572533358Well they're all parts of a single story happening in the same week, it's not quite the same as those other volumes where it's not the case.Either way even if you take them in separation it only makes everything said worse, not better, because now you can't even rely on the thematic build-up from previous parts and it's even more hollow, because the singular chapters do not work as hard as chapter 1 to create thematic set-up.
>>572533442What’s the lore reasoning for all of these well endowed 15 year olds?
>>572531290I thank God I am not such a brain-dead mongrel. In fact, I think I'll do Mari, Wappi and Hinata's valentine's next
>>572533428>I think you really need to read more books.Raped illiterate westoid detected.Get your appeals to authority out of here and come back when you're ready to speak with other adults on a literary basis, you're not on xitter.
>>572533656We're being honeypotted
>>572533604What were your stats by the end? I keep losing money around day 60 and imouto’s lust goes down
>>572533560>rabu's saliva juices and custom shark teeth marksThis counts as homemade.
>>572533448Umineko makes me feel so fucking conflicted because the first half makes you feel like you're reading a genuine 10/10 VN, it really is fantastic. Only for the payoff to just not be worth it in the end.
>>572533636Bro you genuinely need to stop thinking "a work is only good if it masturbates over a theme the entire time"jfc, the pretention is off the charts for real
>>572533656I've seen IRL 14 years old as endowed as Eimi
>>572533172Highlanders aren't scots bro
>>572533821V7 was kino
>>572522545People like Miyo at leastBarely anybody cares about Ritsu, Subaru or especially Fuyu
concerning...
>>572533776>Raped illiterate westoid detected.Oh, it's you.Right. You're very...smart...for thinking novels are bad.Right. It's not even appeals to authority, dipshit, there are a lot of different books.You're a real ass, man.
I read Grisaia but only Mitcher's route and thought it was pretty good
>>572533810This was like my third/fourth? playthrough after two fails. Every run makes the game a little easier, but I did also play with the FFFox mod. Maybe that counts as cheating, iunno.Blue Archive.Suddenly had a thought that maybe someone should make an Ichika mod.
Imagine being so pretentious that your logic can be applied as "Volume F is a horrible story because Kaiten vs Perorodzilla does not serve a deep thematic narrative".
>>572533817If only there was more we could do for her...
>>572533824I don't know why you feel threatened by this as if the point was having a theme "because it makes it feel more important". Having thematic focus offers cohesion, justifies the payoff, and keeps all events of a story consistent, as well as making it more entertaining.It's not something you "force", a well written work will inherently do this.Even something as simple as the better momotalks do this, you simply are picturing the wrong things by getting angry at themes.
>>572533776>literary basis>but fuck you for bringing up books
Romeo’s my favorite writer for sure, because my favorite thing in visual novels is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his visual novels are filled to the brim with this. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book and POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! And then you think “hmmm what’s he gonna do next, this trickster” and you pick the visual novel back up and BZZZZ you get a shock and “hahahaha” you've been pranked again by the old Romeister, that card. “Did you rike it?” he says, laughing “yukyukyukyuk”. Watch him as he shoves a pair of plastic buck teeth right up his mouth and displays em for you – left, right, center – “You rike these? Do I rook handsome?” Pulls out a mirror. “Ah!” Hand to naughty mouth. And you're on your ass again laughing as he snaps his suspenders, exits stage right, and reappears hauling a huge golden gong.
Did someone already post the Zoos/Chise review pic?
>>572534115To be fair, Rabu doesn't even seem sad. She's a mother hen to a big crowd of Helmet mobs. In a way, they're too stupid to be suffering that much.
We need bing anon back
>>572533776You haven't even read Cross Channel correctly.
>>572534020>Right. You're very...smart...for thinking novels are bad.That's not the argument at all.The vacuous idea that "read more books" is a rebuttal comes from the illiterate thinking books are on some higher level so if you read "more books" you will magically gain more insight, with the implication that this is because Visual Novels are inherently "written worse".If you said "read THIS book" with a specific reason it'd be one thing, but "read more books" in this conversation is something a very, very poorly read person says, with no exception.>>572534190See above.
>>572534205I would like to see more of their in-gang interactions
>>572533776Lmao, got flashbacks from Ms. Jen’s 4th grade English class? Fuck off to the kids’ table if you’re not ready for a logical discussion
>>572533824If a work has no developed theme then it has nothing to say. And if it has nothing to say, then it shouldn't waste people's time.That's not the problem necessarily, works having no developed theme, the problem is works pretending like they do and wasting your time in the process.
>>572534126It's not threatened, I've just read a lot of stuff that is just about nothing and I've enjoyed it.Watched too, w/eAlso the idea that there's an "objective series of things to do to write something well" implies that all good works are basically without any manner of unique qualities, following the "template of what makes something good". It's just antithetical to art, this isn't maths. You're basically insisting in a way that screams "I wish I could write, I can't, but I'm sure I can suss out what makes writing good"
>>572510739Does anyone know the OST # for this scene? I just immediately sat back and vibed and I need to get this song.
>>572534375And with this amazing opinion, anon obliterated like 70% of media.
>>572534349You simply prove my point for me more and more.You have absolutely nothing to say on any technical and literary basis, you do not have the tools to participate in this conversation so you appeal to authority, because "books are what smart people read", but you don't know what part of them is supposed to help you here.
>289Grim.
>>572533973That's because long hair is sexy
>>572534062>Skipped Yumiko's magnificent turkey handle car chase>Skipped trash bag ending>Skipped Little Bus CrashThat's not very juicy of you. JB best girl
>>572534503Signature of a bad thread
>>572534338At least they have the power of friendship on their side. Reminds me of Kasumi and her crew.
>>572534332NTA, that sounds fair, but you’re really lashing out against imaginary arguments here. Really a reason why you should read more books imoEven I can tell you what anon meant: by taking in more of various mediums you begin to form connections and innately understand why things are the way they are. It’s no appeal to authority or anything; in fact, directly naming a book/author and saying “go here” would be MORE of an appeal to authority according to your frameworkNow let’s get back on track
>>572534332You want to discuss literature while refusing to increase your knowledge of literature.Read Candide. It's short, satirical, extremely stupid, and thematic as you like often. However, mostly it's a shitpost by Voltaire about how much he fucking hates the philosophy of optimists.Or you know, don't. Be a really cool guy and call me a retard for consuming various kinds of media and being willing to discuss it all.
>>572534472To be fair that's actually true. 70% of media is shit. More than that actuallyNot saying he's right but yeah
Shuro winsSensei is a loser
>>572534472The majority of media is poorly written schlock not worth the paper it was written on. Do you disagree?
>>572533425Yes, actually because the mobs portraits are holding italian guns.
Well done being angry about visual novels this time instead of more stupid things, /bag/!
>>572534637I let her win
Does the Steel Continent arc take place before or after Volume F?
>>572534637Shuro got rizzed into retardation. It's over for her.
>>572534115>Why can't we just lock them up in a cage, and give them three meals a day and shelter like a petPeople seem to miss the fact everyone living on the streets in this game is doing it intentionally. This is what they want to be.
>>572533973I don't have her but from what I saw of her in the Wildhunt event, I thought she was cute. Like a cheery little gremlin.
>>572534709At the same time
>>572534192>only posted once beforeyou saved that pasta for a whileI really liked Tsui no Stella.
>>572534090Thanks! I’ll have to check out that mod
>>572534637Sensei and Nagusa won BIGLY
>>572533432too lazy to convert webp so herehttps://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/8/88/Batman_EW_Ver.gif
I have a question /bag/ how to survive nuclear blast?
>>572534646>>572534632Depends on what you're counting. I would say the majority of media that wasn't written for a very shallow purpose (IE romance novel slop) is not necessarily terrible.But mostly, I am speaking of genres like slice of life. I'm not even talking about quality, you dumbass, I'm talking about content. A lot of works do not have "a plot".Reminds me of YKK, a fucking phenomenal series of short vignettes with a loosely connecting plot. Perhaps it has a theme of the transience of life, but in truth most of the chapters are just about the protagonist enjoying things. Which you could say serves to the theme, or that it serves to "she is cute"
>>572534338>Thinking she has an entire super gangShe runs the lowest loser crew of helmet gangsters out there that wasn't even invited to the helmet gangster BBQ on the beach, which has like three members. They've already gotten three side stories; in Say Bing and Trinity Festival.
>>572534709After vol F
>>572534472Well 90% of anything in any field is going to be "not amazing".Entertainment media exists, it's not a crime, we're just drawing a line in the sand between something it makes sense discussing the "writing quality" of, and something you shouldn't even attempt it in because it's just supposed to be mindless entertainment, like a Marvel movie.>>572534626>You want to discuss literature while refusing to increase your knowledge of literature.That is your headcanon because in your mind putting VN writing on a pedestal must mean not being well read in "real books".And as a PhD in three different languages, that is also not the case.You simply decided that my passionate defense of a specific school of writing, and my respect for it instead of accepting "they're just vinnies lol read a real book" must mean I haven't read enough "real literature".The case is the absolute opposite.I am saying all of this BECAUSE I have consumed so much "real literature".If you had proposed an actual rebuttal from within literature, as opposed to an empty "real books are better" appeal to authority, it would've been a whole other tune.
>>572534665The name Wildhunt, when you saw Yuuka’s momo talking about Wildhunt, did you honestly expect Mussolini’s Italy?
>>572534881hide under a two inch wooden desk
Dude graduates college and immediately thinks he's hot shit, happens every end of school year
>>572534815It's an ancient /vn/ pasta from about 2012-2013 iirc. So it wouldn't show up on the archives unless you had Fireden's old archive.
>>572534881Sensei, are you asking because it's a drill... or because someone let Rio build something again?In Kivotos, "nuclear blast" is unfortunately the sort of phrase that makes everyone start checking which academy is responsible.Survival procedure:Immediately identify the source. If it's from Millennium, expect advanced technology. If it's from Gehenna, expect someone to say "it looked funny at the time." If it's from Trinity, start praying.Get behind the nearest heavily armored student. They somehow survive things that would level entire city blocks.If Sensei is present, stay close. Sensei has an uncanny habit of walking away from catastrophes with only paperwork left to do.Wait for the emergency response teams—or a Problem Solver 68 member who's somehow already there—to deal with the situation.If you hear the words, "It was just an experiment," begin running in the opposite direction.Can you actually survive a direct nuclear blast?Even by Kivotos standards, a point-blank nuclear detonation is not something you should count on surviving. Students are extraordinarily durable compared to ordinary humans, but a real nuclear weapon is still an existential threat. Your best strategy is to avoid being anywhere near the explosion in the first place.Now, if this is Kivotos, there's a decent chance the next chapter will reveal that the "nuclear device" was actually an overengineered Millennium energy reactor, everyone ends up in the hospital with bandages, and classes resume the next morning as if nothing happened.
uhhh who's baking
>And as a PhD in three different languagesHoly shit, dude is fuming
>>572534975>That is your headcanonYou basically said to fuck myself for bringing up reading more books>Raped illiterate westoid detected.is what you called me. And you additionally said>come back when you're ready to speak with other adults on a literary basis, you're not on xitter.Which personally, I don't find to be a particularly mature or reasonable response to "read more books" in, as you keep repeating, a discussion on literature and writing.like do I even have to add anything here
>>572534997Mussolini student when?
>>572534881Here’s a guidehttps://youtu.be/VbHgOXIQz20
>>572535143>>572535143>>572535143
im baking
>>572534637No, I’ve won
>>572534951>A lot of works do not have "a plot".Themes aren't plot and a work without plot can still be competently written in a thematically consistent way.In fact, most SoL works that people mistake as having "no direction" do exactly this, which is the secret sauce dividing the ones that just disappear, and those that people can't explain the "kaminess" of.
>>572535108Thanks Arona, do you need more water?
>>572535204>>572535204Too slow
>>572534975>And as a PhD in three different languagesOHHHHH
>And as a PhD in three different languages
>>572534951My issue isn't works not having a traditional plot or whatever, it's works like BA that attempts to wear the skin of kamige but ultimately having a very shallow understanding of its own themes. BA doesn't try to not have a plot, it does the opposite by trying very hard to have a plot imbued with meaning using sensei as its mouthpiece.
>>572534826I like her and her current design kind of fits her character better, but her initial taller design was great.
>>572535150>Which personally, I don't find to be a particularly mature or reasonable response to "read more books" inAnon, "read more books" is a stock response of people that have no interest nor respect for this medium, idk how you expect a measured and calm response to that.It'd be like starting a conversation with a black person with "not that I'd expect a nigger to understand much, but" and then be surprised that someone didn't read your mind for more nuanced intentions.
>>572535209Sure and Azumanga daioh is a comedy.Like that is actually it, it's a comedy. It has no "point" or "theme">>572535289>attempts to wear the skin of kamigeThis is...completely in your own head.I don't remember it even once claiming grandeur. The old lead writer used to often downplay his work and spoke specifically about how his goal first and foremost was to entertain, not to convey meaning.
>>572535379You keep saying you utterly loathe and have no respect for western literature as a whole, and then you get upset that someone tells you to read more books.
>>572534975How can you misrepresent the argument so badly? No one is demeaning VNs here (except that one schizo). We’re putting them to the standard alongside other literature. Though perhaps anon should’ve phrased it better as you said, I at least don’t hold the position you think I do.(Without IDs this gets confusing real fast…)
>>572533032Yes, I understand thatI just don't understand your expectation of Blue Archive being more than what it is. I feel like the core of BA is and has always been "girls have guns", "I want to guide my students to a better future", and "I want to have fun with my quirky students". So when you talk about "why doesn't BA provide a unique or interesting argument against the removal of free will", I just don't understand what part of the game is supposed to provide that outside of a shounen fight. Also, I'm not sure if you're the same person although I feel like you are, but someone made fun of BA having very basic philosophy in the game. Most people have never even taken the first step into very basic prop logic for philosophy. You really gotta tone down the levels of intellectual engagement you could expect out of the game, especially when it's a live service that has to churn out new content on a regular cycle. And ESPECIALLY when the main goal of the game is to entertain, which you can see by the percentage of time spent just shooting the shit with your girls. >>572533571Thanks for giving me 2 (You)s, that means a lot to me
>>572535407>Like that is actually it, it's a comedy. It has no "point" or "theme"It actually has a consistent theme of "outsiders" vs "expectations", and that's what every character hinges on when you are able to spot this.Osaka comes from...well, Osaka.Sakaki is a cool beauty whose main gripes are from being anything but within.Chiyo is a child genius, but she is mostly a child, and yet her interactions are mostly dictated by the genius part.Yukari is a party girl and was a bad student, but has to be a teacher.etc etc
Your thread was too hidden>>572535204 >>572535204 >>572535204 >>572535204
>>572535313Her design changed?
>>572534826in the toilet clogging competition
>>572535497>You keep saying you utterly loathe and have no respect for western literature as a wholeI said as much in the last thread but that's a complete misunderstanding.I don't loathe western literature, I loathe the discourse around it and the dogmas academia created.Things like "classic literature" having an inherent superior quality to it, but also the dogma of "there is no objective quality so don't you dare trying to define it", the constant appeal to "read more books", and so on.These aren't the fault of the literature itself, but the people calling upon it as a tool of cultural control.
>>572535585You’re welcome, and my bad.
Get trips or something damnIt's getting hard to trace which one had that one certain opinion
>>572534975is massive inferiority complex something ALL /vn/ autists are required to have or is it just the ones that come to shitpost here?
>>572535807Good thing I mentioned no classic literature apart from arguably Candide, which is a satire that features ass-eating, and still I get you fucking blowing a gasket.
>>572535261Yes, you were too slow but it's okay. I think we should start making new threads at post 760 minimum; anything lower should only be for when the OP needs an update or if a tourist made a shitpost one
>>572535596That's not a theme, however. And I'm not usually one to bring that up, since the distinction tends to make me roll my eyesbut the goal of AD is to make you laugh. Subverting expectation is one of the basic ways to do that really. The "story" of the series doesn't exist, and most of its jokes don't preoccupy itself with "expectation" anyways. That's the premise, sure, but the manga usually preoccupies itself with, well, various jokes
>>572535807>These aren't the fault of the literature itself, but the people calling upon it as a tool of cultural control.Ah, now I see the root of it. Fear not anon, I’m sure you’re used to arguing against your fellow academics who use such “appeal-to-authority” arguments, as you said. But we all debating may be closer in view than you think! Rest assured we (though I can only speak for myself really) didn’t mean it like that. What a misunderstanding…
>>572535585>I just don't understand your expectation of Blue Archive being more than what it is.Not the anon you replied to (I'm wallanon) but this is exactly what this conversation has been about that's the point.I'm (and a couple others) saying that BA is not "anything more than that" and trying to justify why I think that's worse, on a scale, to what a "proper" narrative would do.The argument is that in an imaginary race where BA is racing in the VN division, it would fail really badly.If your side of this is that it's fine and you don't see it as a demerit (because we're not in that race to begin with) then I can't really say anything to that.
Damned schizo muddied the waters too much, and now we’re arguing against mirages rather than against the actual arguments of each side. Perhaps this may have to be picked up another time. I fear it’s too late now to trudge back to earlier in the thread and conscientiously get our individual points across.Have a good rest of your day, all you honest anons.
>>572536223nobody cares, go get some more Phds
>>572536223>The argument is that in an imaginary race where BA is racing in the VN division, it would fail really badly.I didn't start playing BA with the expectation that it'd meet "kamige" standards.I'd probably give it a 8/10 on vndb, which is pretty low for me (my average rating is an 8.5)The lowest rating I've given to a VN that's generally considered "kamige" is a 9.
>572536795That’s not even the PhD anon you amoeba brained shitflinger
>>572537297>i-it's not me NTA but I totally agree with that previous anon about how much of a faggot you are
>>572537297heh
>>572514078someone saved my pic, based
>>572536223>If your side of this is that it's fine and you don't see it as a demerit (because we're not in that race to begin with) then I can't really say anything to thatThat is exactly what I'm arguing for.Look, live service games will most of the time lose to a completed product that can build it's story around the central message and theming it wants to portray.I think the story BA tried to tell is already good enough, considering the constraints I mentioned earlier it's under. Now, I do think the zingers and girls in BA are pretty good. I've only read 1 VN, but I definitely don't see BA being a bottom 10% of VNs, unless if you're telling me there is that much gold inside the medium.
Canid Oppai?
>>572522405not the same anon, its "frying pan" or something, just search it on mangadex
