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Progressive edition

Previous Respect: >>572639257

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-/utg/ Canvases
>Current: https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96239777-9260-8312
>Previous: https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25875811-6377-7463
>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
>https://utg-pippins-ocs.neocities.org

-Thread Template (paste the current whiteboard links)
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>572650121
You deserved it and don't let anyone let you think otherwise. You're just as bad as you were back then. Maybe a bit worse.
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Guess what?
Ralsei butt.
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>accidentally sent my friend noel ass and balls instead of the susie tail sweeping the stump
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personal destructions anchor, reply with your latest fuck-up
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>>572650360
He found the glue…
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>>572650315
Unfortunately, Catti would probably say this…
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>>572650354
Mogs every other character without even trying.
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>>572650272
>>572650274
Anons...
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>Grab twisted sword
>Equip it
>Through the chapter our soul starts to move wrong, and gets in the way of dodging thanks to Trance down
>Kris slowly starts to not just do what we tell him to, and just does his own thing at times
>Eventually leads into just taking proper control of his body with us in it, and somehow starts doing terrible shit when given freedom to do as he pleases
>Turns out we were keeping the psycho in check more than we thought
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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>>572650423
WE STAND AS ONE
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who will become asgore's rebound girl?
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https://files.catbox.moe/4i610g.mp4
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impersonal creations anchor, reply with someone else's most recent work
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>>572650272
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>my king found the glue jar
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>>572650360
what if flowery talked with a G in front of every word so instead of "Hey guys i think i found a clue" its "Gey guys, gi ghink gi gound a glue"
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>>572650341
ralsei hips and fluffy thighs
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Sometimes it really begins to feel like Deltarune fans don't know how stories work in general. Like the "three act structure" and the "second act low point" are the most COMMON tropes you find in storytelling.
You don't fucking want a situation to be happy happy all the fucking time, you need a low point to SELL the resolution and make the happy ending feel earned.
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>>572650360
PLEASE post reaction anon
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Has anyone considered the Knight was kneeling because they wanted to appreciate the Floraddins?
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>>572650151
Can anyone explain what actually happens at the end of normal route ch4? Sans and Toriel are fingerbanging downstairs, then Susie appears and they stop fingerbanging. Why is Susie outside Kris' house again? Why does Kris climb out thr window after Susie? It's such a weird ending.
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>>572650493
All the threesome stuff has been foreshadowing the Undyne x Alphys x Asgore power couple.
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>>572650551
This has me ugly bastard laughing
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>>572650360
Double down and keep sending your friend porn as a signal you are down to fuck.
You can't stop now or it will be awkward.
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>>572650520
>fujo's color inverted is battat's
canon and meant to be
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Ralsei's genderless, featureless crotch lump that's incredibly ticklish.
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>>572650520
trans catgirl selfcest (with cocks)
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>>572650520
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>>572650528
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
YOUR WONDERFUL CREATION
will now be discarded
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People keep wondering why Seth is obsessed with Berdly, but the flowers have been around since Asgore and Toriel's wedding day. He didn't even have Flower King until after the INCIDENT. The flowers were presumably kept in the Dreemurr house somewhere and we know that Kris and Berdly played games together sometimes, so that's how Seth knows him. Also, if you think about it, Seth is actually significantly older than Berdly, so they're kind of a creep.
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FULL Flowery intro translated into latin spanish by me, Weirdsei and another guy, including visuals and voice clips.

https://files.catbox.moe/8bs078.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/8bs078.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/8bs078.mp4
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>>572650497
The fucking rudy reindeer lmao
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>>572650562
> most indie stories are released in chunks at a time instead of all at once
> galphas fail to be literate in the story

actually i dont know what point in trying to make
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femboy_on_female
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>>572650554
i like to think ralsei is actually talking to us in this image because Kris is red and it's like he knows we aren't actually Kris
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>>572648845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODeoBM8J1k
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>>572650151
The white demon will be punished for making me witness 30 minutes of cheap Yuri and cockblocking Birdly and MewMew
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>>572650360
>they have friends they can talk about deltarune with
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>>572650528
Spamton in the particle collider trying to become like Gaster
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>>572650554
I have a mighty need for this.
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>>572650562
I blame matpat and FNAF. Nothing can just be a good story anymore, it has to include 65 unforseen plot twists that completely rewrite the narrative each time.
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duhhhhhh why does (thing that's explained in game) happen? can someone give me a tik tok that summarizes the game?
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>>572650341
ralsei paws pads
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I still can't get over how the fucking deer that looks like just some random bullshit you'd see in a hallmark card is like this
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>Normal NPC is a parrot
>He was repeating the last words of Onion when he said "Wait, don't!"
Fuuuuuck
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>>572650562
Have we even had a second act low point?
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>>572650743
Mexican Flowery gives me the good old el chavo del ocho vibes
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>>572650562
Of course deltarune fans don't understand good story telling and structure, they're deltarune fans :D
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where can I access and read filenames from the game?
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noelle and kris literally fucking die and /utg/ be like
>"chapter 5 is a filler that adds nothing to the story"
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>>572650520
Noel… I missed you.
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>>572650743
Now translate his weight to heavy
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I’ve never bought rudy knight. The guy is in a highly supervised hospital, often on the opposite end of town to a fountain with absolutely no way of getting around without being seen going in or out. Even if he was faking being sick, he would still need to reinsert IVs afterwards and spoof medical readings when he’s away fountaining. Can a rudyknighter pill me on it?
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>>572650820
who the fuck is this character
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why is rudolf so fucking pissed when you take susie to go meet him in chapter 4 if they hadnt met before
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big fat cat tats
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>>572650904
his voice actor here is colombian lol
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>>572650804
I made my bf play the chapter last weekend. He took two extra hours to get to the end and then spent a full hour fighting Flowery but I still love him.
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>>572650360
I'm sorry, anon. You fucked up.
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>>572650889
Chapter 5 IS the second act low point, it's the de-escalation right after Chapter 4 and set in preparation before the final act
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In terms of UT's story I'd say the church is probably Waterfall and chapter 5 is probably Hotlands? So 6 will be our ASGORE neutral ending moment and 7 will be our true lab stuff where shit gets bonkers.
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>>572649816
If I'm being completely serious that is a lot closer to what I assume is going to happen, but the problem with that is that I don't know how you juggle another relationship arc between them with everything else they need to build up and expand upon in terms of other character arcs (Like Susie's retreat into escapism, the circumstances surrounding Ralsei (and now his possible trooning out??), the motivation of the Holidays and/or the Knight, and Kris' jealousy, just to name a few) let alone overall story with Chapter 6 considering how little actually happened in Chapter 5
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hair pulling, forceful yet loving sex with a cute vessel, said kris completely unprompted to susie
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>>572651034
AND they're getting laid. FUCK! With MORE people who like Deltarune!
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>>572651007
you think she'd ask asgore to buy the new mewmew figure with bigger tits?
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>>572650963
Rudy Knight is nonsense to anyone with a basic level of media literacy. His place in the story is extremely obvious, and it does not include randomly hopping out of the hospital every day to kidnap people and break things.
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>>572650360
Oh you think that's bad?

I once send a very poorly drawn drawing I made of Steven and Pearl from Steven Univese kissing in my Uni's group chat
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>>572650743
turn off your discord notification sounds. who is voicing flowery in this?
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>>572650360
Oh it feels like yesterday when anon sent his mom Deltarune porn and she gave a cute response
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>>572651041
if you laugh, you go to hell
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>>572650272
mmrf kris we’re so full of resolution oughh
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>>572651178
did they fuck
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>>572651139
No, she is married to this nendoroid and no other.
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>>572650769
using kris' body without his consent to [[Hyperlink Removed]] ralsei...

>>572650820
everyone does
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>>572651160
he's not sick
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Anyone want some butter dragon? It's delicious.
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>>572651173
i had my pc muted so i didn't notice it was also recording sounds from the desktop :p

Flowery was voiced by a colombian friend of mine, he's really excited to work on the translation!
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>>572651160
>pic
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that people actually do drugs. Like, they actually own bongs and shit. That's insane.
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>>572650909
Download UndertaleModTool and a copy of Deltarune then watch a tutorial or something. Is there anything youre looking for in particular?
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>>572651331
underage begone
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>>572651138
molestable
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Your attention everyone: I have forgotten what I was going to say.
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Pink's fight is so fun mechanically. Please just let me rematch bosses in the dojo. I can wait until chapter 7 for it but I need it badly.
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>>572651328
>* You reluctantly try some
>* ...
>* It tastes apologetic
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Does Kris ever show remorse for killing or hurting Darkners? Is there any chance Kris likes to beat on Darkners because theyll get away with it?
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how often does Asgore hotglue Mew Mew
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>>572651034
haha did you suck his cock while he was playing haha
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OH LEAVE HER JOHNNY
LEAVE HER
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>>572651207
Awwww
>>572651331
Asriel would say this.
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>>572650769
*Ralsei presents ass*
>As you know, YOU are welcome in here anytime.
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Sometimes I wonder if toberts original vision of the game has become corrupted or morphed by the constant stream of content and ideas coming out of the fandom because teebeeache if someone I saw online predicted a way better idea than what I had going originally I'd just steal it and pretend I was doing that all along
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>>572651207
*as YOU know I’m HQ anytime
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>>572650121
>anon used to get PUNCHED IN THE FACE by their parents
jesus christ are you okay?
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>>572650963
>highly supervised
The only other living thing in there is a giant mouth
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>>572651120
i played chapter 5 with my husband
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>>572651418
Canonically Asgore hasn't allowed himself to cum in/on/to anything feminine since leaving Toriel.

Rudy is fine though.
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>>572651413
if darkners were real i would have sex with the weakest and cutest one there
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>>572651207
Carol looks so much better with less saturated blues
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>>572651365
i'd like to know the filenames of the following fights

susie
PINK
spamton
spamton neo
gerson (the one where he 1v1's susie)
gerson's statue fight music
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>>572651482
well apparently he only dreamt the ending for this game so if i was toby i'd literally would just look at theories and pick the coolest ones to workshop in
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>>572651321
Please provide anything that supports that argument
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>>572651331
Unpopular truthnuke, all the weed smokers I know are insufferable, alcoholics are mildly less bad
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>>572651482
so far 99% of the fans ideas have been shit and the most creative ideas are just basic bitch meta theories, so I doubt it.
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>>572651328
He's a fucking hero
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>>572651482
i think this is what chapter 5 is. the whiplash coming out of 4 is crazy
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>>572651397
wrong
floradinns should not have ass or thighs or anything
they should be built like body pillows
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>>572651051
Tv world was supposed to be hotlands, i think the "deltarune is undertale backwards" theory is dead now, because the weeb flower world is nothing like snowdin unless you want to force that represents snowdin's ball game, just like the tards that said that tenna is a rook or gerson a bishop
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>>572650151
Hooman!
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>>572651646
I'm talking less literal areas and more in terms of pacing desu.
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>>572650963
>>572651160
It has problems but it definitely isn't Papyrus Knight tier. To be completely honest, I don't know if there are any obvious Knight candidates at the moment that don't have some pretty big issues. The revelation that the Knight was active all the way back during the time that (presumably) Dess disappeared really screws with all of them as far as I can tell
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>>572650573
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJCYNy_mXTA
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can Flowery defeat the ongoing recession with his hopes and dreams?
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>>572651537
Ralsei blushing gif
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>>572651623
Device Theory sucks.
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>>572651726
>chris
I can tell this person drew shit without playing the game
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How will they beat him?
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I think The knight is going to crash the castletown party
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>>572651718
Son
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okay so basically kris is blue because he drowned, right? thats pretty much all but confirmed through inference of all the drowning and water motfis scattered through this game
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can you get to the dark world via dreams?
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>>572651418
This is why Flowery says glue
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PSA: Ralsei is taller than Kris. If they kiss or fuck Ralsei should be giving off kind big brother energy
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>>572651789
large bag of seed
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Tbh I straight up no longer care about papyrus. If he does show up or not in the next two chapters I'll feel nothing. The moments been since passed
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>>572651547
I love her but her overworld sprite is probably the worst in the game
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>>572651718
And after?
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>>572647495
Went through my old folder and I remember drawing this kek
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>>572651870
cool headcanon. you should create content like that
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Shipping Normal NPC with Globglogabgalab. They both love books!
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>>572651924
I remember this one! Good stuff anon
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>>572651875
I'm like 95% sure he's just going to show up at the end as a gag. I agree that it's hard to give a shit at this point when we're a decade out from UT. Though desu I don't really give a shit about Sans either and everyone expecting him to be super important and vital going forward just has me scratching my head since it doesn't seem like he's being set up for anything at all at this point.
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>>572650963
I think the main reason for believing in Rudy Knight comes down to motivations. We don't know what the Knight is actually trying to accomplish. They don't even really want to try and cause the Roaring all that much.
Most theories speculate that the Knight is connected to the Holidays and that they are trying to cause the Roaring to rescue Dess from the dark depths she seems to be imprisoned in. If this is the case, the Knight is almost certainly one of the Holidays.
What you are saying about the fountains being far away from the hospital is incorrect. We actually see Rudy in church where the Chapter 4 fountain is made, and the library isn't too far off either. He's not confined to the hospital in any way, and if he really needed to spoof medical documentation, his wife is the mayor and is probably in on it.
The reason the Knight looks so gaunt and deformed is that it could be his illness altering his form in the Dark World. He may have even gotten sick from whatever dark experiments are going on in the bunker.
In reality, we just don't have enough information about the Knight to really have a concrete answer, but from a character motivation point, I think Rudy Knight makes the most sense. We don't really know anything about any of the other characters motivations to understand why they would want to make dark worlds and fountains, and usually the correct answer is simplest one.
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>>572651726
>coudles
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>>572651870
god i want fanfics where ralsei treats kris like his little brother so fucking badly
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>>572651875
Yeah, sure, whatever. You'll freak out like everyone else when Papyrus shows up with his friend Flowery and goes Omega to save the day while Super Bonetrousle blasts in the background
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>>572651872
>prepare to di- oh, is it in one of those yogurt balls? Thanks man, Gaster's Evil Ah Lair is down the hall, second door on the left
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>>572651924
>STILL relevant for Chapter 5
what the fuck
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>Noelle gets told that her father fell down, and rushes over
>Turns out to be a lie, and Carol just wanted her to rush over to home
>Before she can even get mad, Carol puts her on house arrest, cause her plan is reaching the point where she needs Noelle to stay put so she doesn't get involved in whatever is going to take place next
>Susie reaches out to Kris the next day, wanting to go tell Noelle about castle town, but can't find her at all, nor reach out
>Eventually we somehow find a way into their home by sneaking in or something, but when the door gets opened, the void is there
>Holiday home dark world
>Turns out in her desperation to get out, she remembered the steps to make a fountain, and got her hands on a knife or sharp object, and stabbed the ground with it
Well?
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>>572651609
>not rudy knight
ok, who is it?
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>>572652057
is that actual text from the game? i never paid attention to this bird npc thing
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>>572651482
Based on the newsletters, it's safe to assume the entire skeleton of the story has already been finished long ago. It's just the fluff that changes overtime.
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>>572652157
no
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>>572652134
doesn't noelle meet susie at the end of the game to give her money? i thought it was on weird route or something
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>>572651482
Yes it definitely has.
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>>572651328
Imagine if it turns out that this NPC turns out to be the knight.
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>>572650272
Tennar
why is he so angry
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>>572652038
The roaring knight is Rudys monster cancer, calling it now
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>>572652038
>I think Rudy Knight makes the most sense
But it doesn't make ANY sense.

>>572652149
I beg you to show the parts of Deltarune that hint at Rudy being the Knight.
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>>572652134
can't be because the roaring happens at chapter six's start plus noelle drowned
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>>572651718
Hmmm hey you know what? That could be a a bad surprise or a good surprise. Ask if they liked it
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>>572651425
Seriously, what is Gaster supposed to be at this point?

>mad scientist (think Dr Gast/Hojo, The Doctor and Ballos, etc)
>a walking Lord English reference (which means he's a reference to Doctor Who and the Hulk by proxy)
>an egg (Humpty Dumpty)
>green (connected to Gerson and turtles)
>a pirate (Umineko and Spongebob reference)
>Grandpa Semi and connection to ghost characters (snails and ghosts)
>the Snowman NPC
>an actual phone
>a skeleton
>potentially has three heads
>Demiurge allusions (lion-serpent - a golden flower!)

seriously, what is he???
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>>572650272
I care not for your bread and circuses, I must solve the mysteries of Deltarune.
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>>572652247
would explain the chest eye
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>>572652224
During the weird route Noelle tries to give Susie a huge wad of cash and it freaks Susie out because giving away stuff like that so casually and out of the blue is often an indication of suicidal tendencies. Though obviously Susie doesn't really word it like that.
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i think asriel should be the knight and the horns are just his tribute to dess. dess is dead and at the bottom of the lake
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>The Knight is Rudy and it was weakened from Rudy's collapse earlier which is why it struggled with Flowery
Okay, sure.
>The Knight is Rudy and he was actually completely fine the whole time and Carol just lied about Noelle's father almost dying for a temporary distraction
Batshit insane. Both characters would be almost irredeemably evil if they pulled something like that, and not in the funny way like NormalNPC eating a guy named Onion.
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>>572652134
seems feasible but I kind of want noelle to visit castle town first if only to see what an aborted weird route noelle would do there once she realizes that it snew for irl real
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>>572651870
>ralsei is an idealized version of kris's big bro
it shouldn't have taken people 5 chapters to figure this out
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>>572652336
He's the man behind the slaughter
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Do you think Carol calls him Rudolph when she’s pissed
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>>572652038
I think if there's one thing thats almost certain for Dess, she is the one that pushes pir hand back in Ch4 with the guitar sound going off at the same time. This is a mark against her being the Knight. Rudy is a strong candidate if you image writing the story from first principles. At the very least, its the most effective rugpull considering how kind and vulnerable he is shown to be. Might be a bit blunt but it would work with what's set up better than Dess. Carol would work but the "I'll be right there" is such a clear red herring that I think it completely invalidates her as an option.
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>>572652271
>has no interest in who the knight is
>is a contrarian secondary
(You)
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>>572652336
anything after the first one is pure delusion
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still pretty kino to me that snowgrave = no grave (no dess grave)
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>>572652336
He's everything you want him to be simultaneously until the truth is observed
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>>572651875
Not having Papyrus in the game is really strange to me because I don't think he's gonna have any sort of role in the story (if he shows up at all) so why would you go out of your way to not only pointedly not incorporate one of the fandom's favorite characters from Undertale, but draw attention to the fact that you're doing so? Because it's funny? honestly that would be pretty based ngl
>>572652028
Honestly with this last chapter it really does seem like Sans is going to have some sort of actual involvement with the story, especially with the weird route bread thing
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>>572650272
I think I tried too hard to make this look tony-eqsue. oh well
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>>572652336
Gaster is the device itself
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>>572652367
Or she is the lake. Monster dust remember? No body.
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>>572652336
i like his pirate arc it should be a good shitpost for a couple of weeks
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>>572652336
he's just the previous scientist referenced in undertale. picrel is the mystery man and one of gaster's goners
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>>572650520
https://files.catbox.moe/mi5pus.PNG
here is some mad mew mew being perfect
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ok but why did gaster force you out of the vessel you made at the start of the game
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>>572652271
Something making the most sense doesn't mean it has to make a lot of sense. It only has to make more sense than the other possible options.
Why would Dess or Papyrus want to make dark fountains and try to cause the end of the world?
We don't know. At least from what Toby has given us from the current game content. There isn't a motivation there for those characters to be the Knight.
Carol or Rudy could want to open dark worlds and fountains to try and reach Dess if they thought Dess was missing in a dark world. There's a motivation there.
I just think that's the closest lead we have. There aren't any other real options now.
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>>572651003
He gets annoyed at Kris for bringing her in chapter 2, but he sugarcoats it with jokes that time. In chapter 4, he feels like shit after church so he can't even be bothered to joke about it, but he still tries to laugh it off. Bringing your teenage friend to visit a dying man in the hospital who she doesn't even know is weird and inconsiderate to both parties. Rudy is up there with Noelle and Toriel for characters who question Kris's (your) weird behavior the most.
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>>572650151
Aaaaaah, sex with Aqua! Flower cunny! Telling her If she bounces really fast on my dick I'll give her my seeds! Cumming Inside her before she gets bored because I'm a quick-shot with a small cock!
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>>572650963
Rudy has to be the Knight because of the influence of Persona 4. Who's the culprit responsible for the abductions and all the fantasy world adventures?

>why, the friendly unassuming smiling guy who's chummy with the family member who works with the police and who the player can collude with as an accomplice!

BITCHES AND WHORES
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>Carol showing up to Rudy’s hospital bed after he lost in chapter 3
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>>572650562
Chapter 5 was meant to be Deltarune's midgame high point though
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>>572652421
Why is Kris idealizing Asriel but soft feminine and gay with immense lust to please Kris? Was it envy because he was balls deep inside Dess' cervix?
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>>572650742
how does one keep a flower alive for that long?
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>>572650439
>Susie and Ralsei SWOONED again during Knight rematch but the arc actually comes from behind this time
>Kris returns the Black Shard to the Knight to recomplete their sword
>Roaring Knight joined the party
>Cutscene battle of "your" party destroying the last hope of the world being saved... Berdly.
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>>572652546
monsters don't dust
the bookshelf didn't actually make that clear
blood all over the place unlike undertale
asgore wouldn't be able to parade a corpse around if they dusted
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>>572651870
Do you have proof of that? If you're just going by sprites I don't feel that's a good basis. E.g. Krusie: she wouldn't be able to fit his head beneath her chin if the sprite heights were accurate. I bring up fitting heads beneath chins because Toby himself thought of that
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>>572652585
we don't know who the two voices in the goner maker are
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>>572652585
he didn't, that was a secondary voice
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>>572650520
still waiting for painter to make an HD 4K 1080P classical painting of wind sufferer
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Assuming all the unused Noelle dialogue gets used for this next chapter, we KNOW she's not like having a crazy break down and is pretty chill with everyone including Susie.
>>572652509
>Honestly with this last chapter it really does seem like Sans is going to have some sort of actual involvement with the story, especially with the weird route bread thing
I don't see it. That just looked like a wink and a nod thing cause like...what does that even imply in-universe from Sans? He knows these two teens are going to murder suicide at the lake in an attempt to clip out of bounds? And he's just okay with that? Like this is pre-UT Sans where he's given up all hope and what not so it seems really fucking weird. Not to mention what the fuck is the bread supposed to do? Like yeah it might be a reference to an old Mother 1 glitch but...okay? Nothing implies that it's actually that in-universe.
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Gaster follow the rule of cool. A pirate, mad scientist, how cool! Never seen that before!
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>>572652613
>what do you mean you lost the fight
>go find it
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If monsters don't dust in undertale that means undertale is more even more spirit realm than deltarune's dark worlds
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>>572652731
She’s probably making obese flowery art right now
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>>572652680
... Gersons hammer?
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>>572650604
>Why is Susie outside Kris' house again?
Susie decided to sleep into Kris's room in Castle Town after seeing Toriel drunk.

>Why does Kris climb out thr window after Susie?
Only speculation there: he's been watching her. Or checking out something somewhere else.
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>>572652573
Nice cock.
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>>572652627
The "think about something else" text when suselle are on the ferris wheel does make it look like kris was jealous
And we know how much toby loves femboys and brocon
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>>572652680
>>572652546
maybe they don't dust immediately?
though even if they don't dust at all, she's been dead for years and there are like fish and stuff in lakes
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>>572652336
he is nothing, he is not there, there is no gaster, thats the whole point of gaster, there is nothing

thats the whole point
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>>572652841
gerson was cremated
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>>572652745
>And he's just okay with that?
Sans never does anything until it's too late. That's like his second biggest trait.
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>>572652812
Since darkners are hard to actual kill (just beat into a defeat state) without also hurting the objects in the light world IIRC?
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>>572651401
Many are saying this
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>>572652372
If we work under the idea that they're trying to bring their daughter back, I don't think they care how depraved they have to be for it.
Lying to their daughter so they can try and keep her out of harm's way from whatever is going to happen isn't exactly "irredeemable" either. What they wanted with Toriel and Asgore on the other hand, might be.
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>>572652857
>And we know how much toby loves femboys
is there any evidence of that past all the fanservice ralsei gets + him dressing up trickster style
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>>572652585
the device switched to shifted mode
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>>572652859
Onionsan ate her body
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>>572652936
That's only in UT where he's already given up hope because of Flowey's time jumping bullshit, he literally tells you this during his fight. This is clearly supposed to be set pre-UT for him so it doesn't make sense that he'd already be that sort of character.
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>>572651401
a boss rush or select mode is inevitable
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>>572652134
Susie decorating all of Castle Town only for Noelle to never see it is something that would happen
A situation where Carol seems to have trapped Noelle in a Dark World but only intended to keep her safe at home would allow her build-up as an antagonist to pay off while still leaving a sympathetic side (and we'd get to post about how fucked it is that she manipulated Noelle by telling her Rudy died)
The Knight could show up to fake-out CarolKnighters for a moment before Carol actually shows up, and the unexpected Dark World + Noelle's angst could lead to whatever the ch6 cliffhanger is
Yeah that works
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>>572652968
>is there any evidence aside from all of the evidence
?
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>>572651328
Are there any enemies who don't count as kills in Undertale? I want to make a mod that lets you kill So Sorry without gaining any EXP or being marked as having killed anyone in True Pacifist. Would be nice to piggyback off of existing spaghetti code.
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>>572652904
I speedread this as Gerson was creamed
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>>572652968
There's the time Toby himself became one
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>>572652745
its gonna be stupid if she doesn't have some kind of breakdown, especially with things like the aborted side B.
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>>572653082
The tutorial Dummy.
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I’m doing a little social experiment tomorrow to test if toby fox is a good writer. My teenage sister is hanging out with her friends, i’m giving her a couple of pages summarising the love triangle drama of kris, susie, noelle and also including catti due to her recent outburst and allusion to crushing on noelle (also briefly mentioning ralsei and berdly). I’m omitting any video game or fantasy elements, dark worlds are just house parties or vacations, everyone is human and definitely no weird route. They are going to assess the situation from the perspective of normie teenage girls and report back to me on who is “at fault” and how each character should handle their strained relationships. We need a focus group that isn’t adult deltarotted queers for fresh perspectives.
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>>572652038
Rudy Knight also checks out when you remember that Toby is a Twin Peaks fan and he's watched NGE according to the Halloween Hack commentary. JRPGs always have the main character fighting their dad when they're not fighting God or a Demon Lord, same thing goes for shonen/seinen anime.

Remember the livestream: Deltarune is a game made with dads in mind.
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>>572653107
>especially with things like the aborted side B.
The text might be different there but she doesn't really have a reason to be hostile in the normal route. Also she wouldn't blame Susie for Side B bullshit anyways.
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Kinda fucked up to think that Susie and Noelle are so useless on their own they have to keep inviting Kris on their dates, including the bedroom to be some kind of emotional support animal
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>>572653087
yeah that's what i meant when i typed
>dressing up trickster style

>>572653073
i'm just curious. i've had the same thought but i also realize i could be projecting
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I don’t feel like digging back right now, and I don’t think anything stood out to me, but I’d like to make a Deltarune watercolor painting, though it will take me awhile. So I’ll take a specific request for that. And repost this delivery.
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>>572653087
>Someone thinks this guy is a secret chud
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>>572653157
Well that doesn't work since we didn't fight asgore in ch 5
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>>572653023
There's no telling how many loops DR has gone through before we stepped in.
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>>572653213
Thanks for fulfilling my request
Kek looks even better than I imagined
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chapter 5 should've been 90% asgore 10% the flower fuckers man
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>>572653297
I’m glad you like it, it was incredibly low effort, but I don’t mind doing that quality for memes.
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>>572653259
Nothing implies a loop at all is happening yet or that Sans is aware of loops in this universe even if they are. You're reaching now.
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>>572653228
No we fought the Darkner Rudy stand in instead, funny enough.
>Asgore's BEST FRIEND
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>>572653326
Uh... no. I love my floral friends.
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>>572651034
man do alot of other faggots do this?
i streamed the chapter to my bf when it came out and now he's streaming me his playthrough of it. Sorry to say anon but my bf is more of a GOD GAMER than yours, i made him play deltarune for the first time some months before chapter 5 trailer came out and he first tried jevil, spamton NEO and gerson (i would still love him if he sucked ass though i respect your love anon)
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>>572653259
i hope there's no time loop bullshit
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>>572653213
NormanPC Bird eating a swirly popsicle
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>>572653213
nice work anon
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Kris is depressed and isolated in chapter 1 because its been thousands of years of Suselle loops.
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>>572653128
Anon this sounds so autistic
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>>572652367
>dess is dead and at the bottom of the lake
is she? I assume all of the evidence we had for that is now noelle

dess is a fuckin mystery now, she could be anywhere

pic unrelated...............
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Why didn't Noelle buy a revolver, a single bullet, and blow her brains out in front of Carol?
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>>572651646
>Mad Mew Mew fight
>Ace Attorney references
>Dating sim parody with the same HUD
>Flowery's name is based on Papyrus's name for Flowey
>Papyrus uses anime powder and bishie cream (tenuous connection)
>Inconveniently shaped lamppost joke
>There are seven Royal Guard members in Snowdin and seven flowers (tenuous connection)
>Snowdin introduces orange and cyan attacks plus a colored soul mode final boss, chapter 5 has an orange soul mode final boss (tenuous connection)
It's definitely the weakest one after chapter 1, but I'd say the theory somewhat holds up. It helps that 3 and 4 were really similar to their reverse UT counterparts. If chapter 6 resembles the Ruins/Home, then 1 and 5 will just be outliers, but if it doesn't then the theory is dead.
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Toby's final schizo dream prank is that BALL, too, is an acronym, and the association for the soul color red.
Thank you for playing my BALL GAME.
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>>572653010
just like my pokeman tree & egg games
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Why do they not just check the bu
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Whether I think rudyknighter are wrong or not I gotta admit I think they put the most effort into the schizotheories compared to the other knight candidate fans
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>>572653423
we can hope
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Is it worth it to buy the PC version to replay you think or should I just restart fresh on Switch? Feels like a waste of $20, but I don’t know if the experience is really better or worse.
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>>572651034
>>572653415
please stop talking about your boyfriends it's making me feel lonely and angry.
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>>572652745
>Like yeah it might be a reference to an old Mother 1 glitch but...okay? Nothing implies that it's actually that in-universe.
There are A LOT of references to breadcrumbs in Chapter 5. Too many for it to just be a cute nod, I feel. As for what that actually implies? I have no idea. Also, who is to say Sans didn't actually give up until after he got to Undertale?

I feel like the implication could be that Sans is going to follow them out of bounds somehow, and perhaps that's how he winds up in Undertale?
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>>572653558
Bitch Ass Loser LARPer
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>>572653378
>Nothing implies a loop at all is happening yet
There's plenty to imply that this isn't Kris' first ride on the prophecy rodeo.
>or that Sans is aware of loops in this universe even if they are
It took until the literal end of the game for that to become apparent in UT. Sans is completely identical to his UT version, there's no reason to assume that this would be the one difference.
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>>572653608
go pc version so you can install sex mods later
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>>572653529
Noelle is already on a list of people you can't sell guns to.
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>>572653571
following the pointed tail, anon was lost where the normalnpc gr
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Why is Kris such an incel?
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Is there anyone on 4chan to post general Deltarune porn? The /trash/ threads are only for specific characters, and there's no /h/ or /aco/ thread.
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>>572653501
i just assume dess is dead or something serious otherwise happened to her
>snowgrave = no grave (for dess)
>noelle couldn't spell december because it freaked her out
>asgore lost his job (or did he step down? can't recall) because of whatever happened to her
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>>572652746
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>>572653627
made me happy for those anons. what is wrong with you
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>>572653571
my wife
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>>572653665
Is…that an actual thing?
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You know the best thing about Mew Mew? When Mad Dummy Is forced to stop the act after Castle Town's fountain Is sealed the trannies that self Insert as It will have a meltdown because Toby will be telling them to stop pretending to be something they aren't.
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>>572653048
I wonder what sort of shit a dark world of her own home filled with both happy, and miserable memories would be reflect as.
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>>572653698
just make a new trash thread for general deltarune porn?
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>>572653558
you input B A L L at the title screen to unlock schizophrenia mode where you get the secret true ending by schizoing out and turning into a ball of pink and gold and red and
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>>572653715
>what is wrong with you
im alone
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>>572653710
start of chapter 6 dess just walks into school like 'sorry i was on a rock band tour'
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>>572653749
yeah, why wouldn't it be?
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>>572653501
Note that Susie in the Dark World wears Gold on her outfit, most notably a Gold Heart on her belt buckle. Gold is strongly associated with Determination in Undertale but also Golden Truth in Umineko.

Remember what the goal of Determination is.
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>>572653636
I like this explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6tK8MdEH7Y
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>>572653415
my husband and i played it simultaneously in different rooms and talked about it afterwards
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So I wanna know, what miscellaneous things are there to do for chapter 5 to make sure as much as possible is done for when chapter 6 is out? On the top of my head, a few things that aren't the usual crystal shard and egg are collecting the laddery, and getting the spincake are the main two things I know of.
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>>572653594
If he is not the Knight, I will make
>APOLOGIZE
post and dedicate my life savings to ambiguous deer dad illness research.
If he is, I'm going to fuck his ass harder than Asgore did in college.
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>>572653698
Just catbox and post here.
Or take the 3 day.
The rest of 4chan doesn't want to see it like we do.
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>>572653636
nta but
>I feel like the implication could be that Sans is going to follow them out of bounds somehow
half of me thinks it could be cool because it's sans, but the other half thinks it would lame because it's sans
it would be more impactful personally if it was berdley or someone who happened to follow them out there. sans has been such a non-character/is mostly only relevant in the hearts of fans, what would be the point of tossing him in near the end just to use him for something
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>>572653810
dess actually just ran away and had been doing asriel in his college dorm
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>>572653128
This is /gsg/ tier autism, but could be very very interesting.
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https://youtu.be/Oc8fUbOowZ0
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>>572653378
nigga, the Neverending Story, Twin Peaks, NGE, and Homestuck are big inspirations on Deltarune

this shit has a time loop
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>>572653529
being suicidal runs in the family which is why carol spikes the bottled water with meds
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>>572653201
>healing the hickey away
I mean what’s even the POINT
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<3
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>>572653858
cute. he a rudyknighter?
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I still believe that Sans deliberately got Toriel away from the church because he knew that the Knight was targeting her.
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>>572653920
Jevil has more foreshadow for that than fucking sans who seems like they're just about to bail if anything
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I have a question.
>>>/v/742382674
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>>572653829
I feel like this is just the usual schizobait
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So what is the LEAST likely identity for the Knight?
I think timeloop Susasriel probably will not happen
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>>572653326
Kill yourself
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https://youtu.be/uxTb-npXuqY?list=TLPQMzAwNjIwMja4fcEyd8H04g
I was showing my friend this video about the Rudy Knight theory, and he said the thumbnail reminded him of Grandpa from SpyKids 3D, and I thought that was really really funny.
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>>572653124
Forgot you're allowed to beat it's ass. Maybe I'll open up the old data files once my AC stops hogging all the house's power in a few days. Maybe. Probably not.
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who will have the inevitable megalovania remix?
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Before you criticize Deltarunes writing, remember this is only his second game. Great writers like Nemlei didnt really get it until their 3rd or 4th game.
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>>572653767
Hey... I'm alone too... We can be alone together...
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>>572653983
This is the 15,532nd time you made this post
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>>572653829
Honestly it feels so concrete the only question left to me is if the bread was specifically for what they did or if """somebody""" is actually going to follow the breadcrumbs
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>>572654097
Sans from Deltarune.
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>>572654060
delete this post....NOW!
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>>572654136
>make one game (that we're aware of)
>it's famous immediately
must be nice being toby
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>>572654097
(You)
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>>572654085
>wait a minute toby worked on Spykids 3D
>WAIT A MINUTE
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>>572654097
papyrus when he's revealed to be the knight
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>>572654085
>but noelle, here in the dark world, I can do anything
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>>572653627
I agree with you, except I also have a bf and made him play Deltarune (he never played it before) and started a new playthrough alongside him <3
It was nice to see the game without as much schizo bias from my Chara tulpa I made in high school that didn't go away until recently.
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>>572654020
we were both dessknighters, haven't actually talked that much about it since chapter 5
i don't feel like chapter 5 really changed all that much regarding the knight's identity
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ahhhh i thought this onahole was a regular old onahole but it was actually a netskie playing a trick on me nooooooooo
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why is there no magic in deltarune
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chapter 4
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>>572647495
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If Toby Fox directed the last non-Tobysoft game you played do you think it'd be better or worse?
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>>572654097
Word on the street says Susie
Her own motif does kinda play into it well
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As much as I wanna dismiss Kriselle Knight as schizoposting, I'm looking at the lyrics of Don't Forget through the lense of the end of Ch. 5 Weird Route and the theory and I'm afraid I can't shake it

>When the light is running low
>And the shadows start to grow
>And the places that you know
>Seem like fantasy
>There's a light inside your soul
>That’s still shining in the cold
>With the truth
>The promise in our hearts
>Don't forget
>I'm with you in the dark
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>>572654294
there is, it's just in the dark world (which is in itself a magical construct)
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>>572654021
yet he does nothing else the whole game plus didnt stop ch 3 fountain. broke ass theory
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Are the dummied out pills considered canon like all the other unused crap in the game?
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I'm a spamtenna shipper through and through but Flowery and Tenna would have a wonderfully codependent relationship. A guy who demands constant attention x a guy who wants to give someone constant attention.
Also, I just learned their ship name is SEEDRT
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>>572654307
Typical, big greedy bitch Susie cockblocking Kris.
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I like the Chapter 5 OST but I think the Don't Forget leitmotiv was a little overused
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>>572654307
i did not mean to type chapter 4 woops
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>>572654085
>the bad guy in Spy Kids 3D was locked away in cyberspace and has hologram duplicates of himself as advisors
>the parallels that Deltarune has with Shark Boy and Lava Girl
>the love interest is a program made by the main villain and wears purple

hmm
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>>572654361
WR is about the fear of straight people
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HOLY SHIT GUYS
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>>572654374
Chapter 3's fountain solved itself with the police call.
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>>572654250
Why make a Chara tulpa in HS
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>>572654307
Why is she stopping him wtf
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why was asgore's dark world full of flower-themed fleshlight darkners?
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>>572654236
Papyrus can't be the knight because he is the egg man.
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>>572647495
I don't have it saved but I drew Tenna blueberry inflation in one of the drawboards as a shitpost. I even used a circle tool if I remember correctly to give it the good ol "Deviantart touch".
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>>572653608
It runs worse on PC, but having mods to choose the pronouns I identify with is affirming and convenient
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>>572654462
NO FUCKING WAY
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>>572654487
because it's Kris's dark world
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>>572653213
Noelle, Dess, or Carol, doing what? I don’t know.
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>>572652960
They could lie to her about almost anything other than that, making her think her dad might have died is completely fucked. Ignore your theorybrain and imagine your mother doing that to you in real life, you'd probably never forgive her. It's evil in a very mundane way and not in the over-the-top way that fits with the tone of Deltarune. This is a game where the evil mindbreak route has jokes about frozen chicken nuggets.
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>>572654401
>SEEDRT
*starts the blender on low speed, dumps that and cranks it up to high speed immediately*
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>>572654462
I just hate the way Asriel looks man
Just ugly ass sprite
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>>572653920
I will say I don't think you can do too much with Sans in Deltarune without it being a rehashing of Undertale (and not in a fun way)
Like I said, I feel like it's just going to set up how Sans traveled between games/worlds/devices/whatever Deltarune and Undertale actually are
>>572654462
No way man that's complete schizo territory; take your meds
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>>572654390
The pills are pretty insignificant now that we know the extent of how crazy Noelle actually is even without our influence. The visual of her being medicated isn't as impactful as her insane dialogue throughout the game.
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post (weird) noelles
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>>572654591
>leaf tail
nevermind I hate flowery again. ralsei, cast FLAMEGRAVE
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>>572654250
>chara tulpa
oh. yeah?
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>>572653636
>>572652745
Breadcrumbs dont really work when we went into the water. If we got lost in the forest where the you know Id see its use.
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>>572654462
no they don't look like at all actually
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>>572652650
Very carefully!
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>>572654361
the evidence for kriselle is fucking staggering, anyone who genuinely thinks its fucking rudy or dess is coping hard

they drowned, they broke the boundaries of time and space, they had their souls cracked open and mixed up

when we finally figure out kris's motivations for doing the things he's done all game, then our understanding of the roaring knight will be whole and complete
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Are there any Human Dess believers ITT?
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>>572654085
oh fuck

>the Vessel = The Guy
>both are grey
>gets built up from the very start of the story only to immediately get BTFO
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is there anywhere that explains what the device theory is in a text/image format? i dont want to watch that freaks 10 hour long video series on it.
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>>572654663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-d3FGV-kG8
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>>572654746
it’s dumb as hell
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>>572654746
I’ve never seen this, but I like it!
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>>572653881
I guess I might finish the save with the additional items I got and pray I didn't miss anything?
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>>572654671
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>>572654390
not pill bottles. glitter shakers
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Confident that The final boss is a biblically accurate angel instead of the titans themselves as we fought a titan in ch4 and the deltarune symbol the game is named after clearly shows some angel like thing and three characters, 2 from light world and 1 from the dark world all facing it.
The angel is born from the lake isn't it
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>>572654609
Well I LIKE his gormlessness.
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>>572654746
Dess has a pile of human shoes in her closet for NO REASON. Don't think about it! DON'T!
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>>572654361
Feels more like that's telling us to go drown in a lake with Noelle, man.
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>>572654591
ngl I would really enjoy a moment in chapter 6 castletown where we just open a door and see queen, lancer's dad, tenna and flowery just playing poker together
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>chapters 3 and 4 had enemies you couldn’t mercy and have to fight
>chapter 5 has an enemy you can’t fight and have to mercy
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>>572654746
This is real and true and Dess needs to have a human soul to do her weird knight magic
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>>572654913
she killed and ate a bunch of humans
she leaned it from toriel

why would 1 person own that many pairs of shoes for themself
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>>572654730
>NOELLE NOT ON THE CARPET
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>>572654826
Is it?
>Kris reason to work for the bad guys HAS to be related to Dess in some way
>Dess was just her brother's girlfriend who sometimes whopped her ass
>Even if he had a crush on her, he also has one to Noelle and Susie and he would never do all of this for either of them

Human Dess will actually make sense why Kris is so interested in her and willing to fight so much to bring her back, and why he is so scared of seeing any humans, because they remind him of her
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>>572655008
i would let toriel bake me into a pie desu
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>>572654337
>SS2
>Shodan not revealed to be on comms until the last 20 minutes
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>>572655098
The boys
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>>572653157
I don't think Rudy raped and killed Dess because he was molested as a child
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>>572654937
chapter 6 will have an enemy that you have to use pacify on, nothing else works
hope you bought those shoes
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>>572655143
why did this make me kek
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>>572652650
A bell jar. Artificial controlled lighting. Drip feed system to water the flower if one's away. And finally grafting pieces of the flower when it has reached maturity and growing from the graft. The last part essentially regrows a clone of the original flower and is difficult to perform for some flowers, but Asgore can pull it off. In this way, the original flowers can be kept alive for long without any seeds, and Asgore is still free to take a week-long vacation to visit Asriel or whatever. And extra grafts preserved in case the current flower falls to disease.

Gardeners already do this for many plants, you don't need bioreactors for this.
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>>572655008
Moledesstor theory explains this
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I'll take a solo character drawing request.
Female character preferred, but femboy stuff ok too.
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>>572654361
>>572654743
I really don't think I like Kriselle Knight being the ultimate end result of the weird route, but so far nobody else seems to be able to explain why the Knight has so many parallels to Kris
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>>572655227
Femboy Noelle
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did sans stock our fridge with food?
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>>572655227
Ralsei butt for the homies.
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>>572654470
>>572654685
I was a lonely anorexic edgelord in High School who already had an imaginary friend. I liked playing genocide route over and over again cuz it gave me a sense of power and fear I never got irl, naturally I grew obsessed with Chara and started naming my imaginary friend after them. Then I read about tulpas and stuff on the internet and sem-accidentally started applying those techniques to "Chara". It got really bad, tried to damage my relationships, tell me to kill myself and others, super vivid hallucinations of them I could feel touch me etc.
Legit had to get an occult friend into banishing rituals and shit to help me cuz I was convinced I possessed, which made them "quieter" but didn't really get rid of them, thankfully getting a BF and a few decent friends is helping me out.
I had undiagnosed Schizoaffective disorder all my life until i was 23 which explains a lot of it desu.
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>>572654361
It just doesn't make sense using any of the information in the game.

The entire context of the scene is Noelle trying to get to the other side of the lake, this is framed and comparable to the same way as ralsei skipping the puzzles with you by holding your hand and bringing you along.
Noelle is commanding you to command her out of bounds, and forcibly taking kris with her.

Concluding anything else from that scene is just a massive reach.
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>>572655227
Orange being dangled by her tail in her underwear and blushing while she tries to cover herself up
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>>572655292
it was just a bit kiddo
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>>572655292
yes, he is a gentleman (and also runs a convenience store)
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>>572654795
There are three Deltarunes: the story/game itself, the prophecy, and the program that we connect to in order to engage with the characters and control Kris.

Gaster likely fell out of the confines of the game world and found himself in the in-between space between the game world and our world. He then constructed Deltarune (the survey program) and the prophecy as a means to create a "new ending".

Based on all of the stories that strongly influenced Deltarune (Homestuck, NGE, Twin Peaks, various JRPGs, the works of Grant Morrison, Umineko), Gaster's "new ending" is to escape the video game world itself and jump into reality, preventing his fate in Undertale and ensuring immortality for Monsterkind and himself.
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>>572655227
carol
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>>572655227
aqua doing a funny not lewd anything
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The sneakers in Dess's closet are Azzy's cross country track shoes. and she's been sniiiifing them.
Between this and the retainers she caused great financial troubles for the Dreemurrs.
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>>572655227
Pirate Gaster
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>>572655227
green in a semi-lewd outfit, with big tits
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>>572655227
Ghostly Mew Mew embarrassed about showing off her Mew Mews
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>>572655252
What if it’s the vessel we threw away?
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>>572654743
It really doesn't help that we don't know what Kris is doing or what the Knight's goal is like at all. Why would Kris work with themself(?), how would they know the Knight is them(?), why does Kris try to abort the weird route all the time when if Kriselle is true and Kris+Noelle are the Knight then wouldn't they want it to happen (or understand it is going to happen) anyway? What is the goal of kidnapping people and bringing them to the bunker, and why would Kriselle do it?
I just think Dess wearing a antler headband goes too well with Kris wearing a horn headband and it's too cute to NOT do so I hope it's either Dess or Rudy.
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Is it better to play Deltarune with a controller or keyboard?
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>>572655292
Yes, but unfortunately it was all just jars of marmite.
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>>572655227
draw (weird) noelle
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Alright so:
>Bonus bosses use SOUL mechanics
>Bosses have connection to Undertale boss that used the same mechanic
So assuming that a future one will use Papyrus's/Sans's blue SOUL, and assuming it won't be one of them, how's Toby gonna connect them to the bonus boss?
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>>572655292
and took out the trash and put a blanket on toriel who is also sleeping on her stomach so she doesn't drown in puke
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>>572655292
And took out the trash!
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>>572654746
I don't find this theory compelling but its a cute idea
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>song that might play when you fight sans
>it doesn't
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>>572655375
This meme is going to payoff BIG time
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>>572654743
You could easily explain this as the knight being kris's original SOUL or a million other things
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my full name is Anonymous Poster
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>>572655523
well yeah it said “might” play not “will” play
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>>572655227
femboy noelle... please....
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are people actually serious about this kriselle knight thing
that is fucking retarded
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What happens if I open a dark fountain on a Titan
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>>572655252
i love it, its fucking horrifying and creates for a really tragic villain backstory, i've been playing undertale since the demo threads on /v/ and i've always wondered what a human and a monster joined together would look like as referenced by breaking the barrier

toby must be laughing his head off thinking that people seriously expect the helmet to come off and reveal rudy's goofy ass face
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>>572653326
The flowers are a reflection of Asgore though
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>>572655326
you saw chara though. like was it pixels. holy moley the thought is kinda terrifying
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He could've been your bone daddy
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>>572653220
multiple chuds have been caught cross dressing
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hobo with a shotgun could beat the roaring knight
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>>572655523
Toby can't keep getting away with it
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>>572655227
Susie but her snout is particularly large
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your dad's best nightmare!
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more like anonymusty
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[LOUD NIGRA]
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>>572655252
>>572655407

Kris is the Vessel. This is one big Live A Live reference where the initial player character becomes the Demon Lord. At the end of the story's first ending, Kris transforms into The Knight after we lose our connection and Kris becomes SOULless but thanks to time shenanigans is freely able to jump throughout the timeline.

Connect the dots with Kris and Papyrus and Mettaton and the Thrash Machine.
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>>572655601
Ralsei pees a little bit
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>>572654746
>dess is a human
>asriel is a monster
>they could have been the heroes the knight showed up for when Dess vanished
>ralsei chose to look like asriel because he knew asriel personally
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>>572655407
I don't think there's really a good reason for the vessel to behave/share mannerisms with Kris. It would make more sense for some other monster to have to use Kris' original soul to become the Knight and being influenced by that
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>>572655227
Sexy Green
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Asgore Undertale if he locked the fuck in
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>>572652814
>Spamton eats the giant fry
>Flowery eats the giant burger
What giant fast food does Tenna eat? A giant milkshake? Or giant hot dog? Decide
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>>572655730
>>572655771
>retardbros
Google Moon remix RPG and you will understand who the knight is.
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>>572655634
ok but check this out. the gun is a hobo in the dw. that hobo? susie gaster.
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Everything will be okay, never forget how much I love you
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>>572654085
It always pissed me off they went to the moon because the low gravity should allow him to walk then forgot
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>>572654743
>>572654916
>>572655336
https://x.com/DINOSAURIAUTDR/status/2072428231874015434?s=20
Admittedly it's skipping a few steps to assume this means they're the knight
But
I'm in too deep, it's too late for me
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What should I draw with Noelle?
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>>572655227
Seth sitting on someone's lap reading a story.
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why is technology so much more advanced in undertale
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Why does Susie cockblock us when we wing man’d for her. Should we encourage her abusive parents to beat her?
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https://x.com/radialasymmetry/status/2072173214135202108
if the point of the ralsei and flowery scenes was for him to be clocking ralsei being trans wouldn't this be fucked up for him to say
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>>572655873
something very
very
NSFW
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>>572655873
Draw the pose she’s in when she all like “holy cheese and crackers!”
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>>572655730
This is why the MANTLE game says "you were used up" because Kris figuratively/literally becomes hollowed out and reverts back to being a tool/battle body. Rudy then ends up controlling The Knight when it gets sent back in time.
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>>572655884
it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
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>>572655884
Alphys had unlimited funding.
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>>572655884
final fantasy rules
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>>572655818
secret undertale update drop
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>>572653423
>i hope there's no time loop bullshit
How can you say this when it's obvious that Toby is ripping off SG for elements of his story?
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>>572655603
Assuming the Knight can't be Kris, I'm almost certain whoever the Knight actually is has to be using Kris' actual soul
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>>572655884
they are literally using magic
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>>572655724
you got a sensible chuckle outta me
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>>572655843
Susie confirmed
...wait, what?
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>>572655884
Humans have access to some traces of magic in Undertale and can access Determination.
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>>572655884
monster desperation causes mass funds to go towards research which advances tech
having magic also helps
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>>572655884
they're a hundred years ahead of the deltarune world
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>>572655928
An option that allows me not to draw the second eye? I’m in.
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>>572653881
Castle Town climbing challenge and Trashy Trio fight
Final Starwalker
Both Zenlooker appearances
Getting under 5 seconds in the tree cake challenge
Collecting all the pink coins for the Flowery scarf
Flowery bath bromide
Signery
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SMILE AGAIN!
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sex with human women
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>>572656009
Anon we've been over this there isn't a single element of SG in Deltarune.
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I still believe the theory that Ralsei is Kris' dream
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>>572656083
>Says in the only general in the entirity of /vg/ without a single one
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>>572655336
Thisdesu, plus with the way this route skips chapters, it leads me to assume ch7 takes place in the lake so Kris and Noelle here are speedrunning the story.
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So who has the Deltarune symbol code? My assumption right now is actually that it's Toriel because it's the only reason I can think that the Knight was trying to kidnap her first, unless you think the sucky sucky the knight was doing to her was something else?
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>>572656009
Some of you people really think that Steins;Gate invented time travel or something and I don't know why.
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>>572656150
yea
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>>572656168
boss baby vibes
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>>572656083
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>>572655843
this is a real theory
susie's base outfit stats in the ch5 dress up game are 100% gun's
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>>572655442
I feel like if you hyper analysed all of kris's actions that he took that we had no control of, you could probably get an inking

my gut feeling is that carol and kris are working together to try and resurrect dess in a style similar to how we saw gerson in the dark world
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how do we advance technology enough for them to be happy
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>>572656009
Toby's literally ripping off Twin Peaks/NGE/Chrono Trigger/Neverending Story/Homestuck.

It would be weird if there WASN'T a time loop. People have also made AOT/Muv-Luv comparisons too. Kris is another Eternal Champion, and if Kris is The Knight then it checks out. Cursed black blade, a companion, a love interest, the forces of Order and Chaos...
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>>572656167
it’s pretty obvious the knight wasn’t actually trying to nab toriel and was just stalling until the real target, undyne, arrived
as for who has the deltarune code, idk but my best guess atm is Alvin
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>>572656197
why is bro holding a huge seagreen crystal
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>>572656138
>literally could not just wait 30 seconds for Susie to tell her something happened
>kris literally just said nothing at all instead of saying to Susie YEAH SHE LEFT HER DAD GOT INJURED/DIED
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>>572656168
They haven't watched any time travel thing besides S;G otherwise they would know it isn't actually that special.
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>>572656368
Oh, I didn't know there was a second part to that image.
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>>572656009
>it's obvious that Toby is ripping off X for elements of his story?
people say this for literally anything
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>>572656352
kris was asleep and not listening to noelle's phone call
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>Kriselle is the knight
>But also Kriselle is working with Kris
>But also Kris is aware something bad will happen if you take Noelle to the lake or give her the thorn ring
>But also It's constantly referenced part of kris's plan is for them to go "nowhere" or kill themselves which it's constantly stated you should do alone
So the knight is both a barely intelligent human monster amalgate that screams for no fucking reason but also an emotionally manipulative master of the plan that recruited kris and also wants to create dark fountains and also is working with Carol and also has a sword that showed up when Dess vanished and also doesn't stop Kris from doing the weird route even though Kris is NECESSARY to close the dark fountains which seem to be crucial to the Knights plans and is also hiding in the Shelter?

Like you have to ignore so much shit for this theory to make any sense. It makes less sense than asriel Knight.
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>>572656368
>crushin on the knights aura
goddamn kris contain your girlboner
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>>572656428
It's depressing how "taking inspiration from" has been turned into "ripping off". I blame irony poisoned faggots who never sit down and actually engage with media.
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>>572652960
why would they have to fake Rudy being in a hospital? No one but the player and stupid ass Susie who doesnt notice the horns are even aware of the knight.
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>>572656352
rudy could literally die any minute
and kris is a double-crossing shit with an agenda, he doesn't tell people shit
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:D
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>>572656563
deltarune... is deltaGEM..........
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I was hoping the new chapter would reduce the number of Knight debates...oh...
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>>572656507
Kris was awake and a sabotaging shitter, as usual
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>>572656009
it's been like 15 years since i watched s;g man
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so when we finally learn Kris’s motivation is he actually gonna talk to us or is susie gonna find out what’s going on and just explain the plot to Kris for no reason?
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>>572656328
Chrono Cross fans will win bigly in the end.
Side B is either Another World or Home World.
New Game + will be worked into the actual story and allow you to use party members you haven't unlocked yet in areas they can't normally be used.
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>>572656538
i get less gator and more like bearded dragon vibes from susie
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>>572655597
Yeah
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>>572656138
he really fell for that shit
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>>572656521
>>572656428
Look wanking off Toby's writing is fine but don't pretend he didn't just get his plot points from anime that have already done the same stuff better before. Acknowledging that will save you a lot of trouble.
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how do i make flowery come back
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>>572656674
Kris wants to find the dark shards in order to change something and go "nowhere" what Kris intends to do by going "nowhere" isn't confirmed.
Alternatively you are also forcing Kris to get the eggs which they don't seem aware of.
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>>572656749
Can I play these anime?
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>>572655818
The entirety of Undertale takes place in a Dark World they're literally underground man
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>>572654913
Kris tried to join the track team with Noelle but Dess is a piece of shit and stole Kris' shoes every day until he quit.
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>>572655252
The Knight doesn't have parallels to Kris. Kris has parallels to the Knight.
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Guys I figured out what the knight is
The knight is ______cool_______
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>>572656629
dont forget... im with you with a gem
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asgore sadly impaling a little chef on his trident because he owed them 4g
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but why isnt flowery a sexy plant monster bishie hybrid instead of a yellow anime background character. why does toby HATE women. doesn't he want husbandofag money??
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>>572656368
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If Gaster doesn't physically reach through the screen and strangle me to death when he shows up Toby's a hack
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>>572656515
there are three parties at play

- kris, the original
- the player (mostly fighting against kris)
- kriselle amalgamate created by the player (weird route) but under the control of kris, the original

its fairly clear that this just boils down to (the player) versus (kris)
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>>572656849
susie's expression makes me kek
but also this is how playing chapter 3 felt sorry susie
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>>572656860
The Knight is a fucking dick.
STOP STEALING MY MOM.
FIRST THE SKELETON AND NOW YOU?
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>>572656845
nigga
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>>572655834
Toby had never even played Moon Remix when he first came up with Deltarune or Undertale.
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>>572656551
Yeah but Susie is mean and neglectful and that’s worse
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>>572656832
which is kris looked away when dess fell into her own creation. that creation? lost in the incident
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>>572654795
google tldr device theory deltarune and theres a reddit post that has graphics to explain it.
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>>572656845
HOLD ON.
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>>572656150
kris
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>>572656749
Undertale did time travel better than Steins;Gate
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>>572656968
>tenna
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>>572656749
At least post a better or more popular anime.
There's zero reason to be inspired by SG for any reason unless you want to make really dumb /x/ tier schizoposts and obsession over old IBM computers out of your story.
The far more likely scenario is he is inspired by the immensely more popular Madoka Magica plot.
You have never given a single connection to SG that Deltarune has, at all, whatsoever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVi_fs2oz3E
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Wait, if it's police sacrifice next week, does that mean Napstablook is going to get kidnapped as well?
Will Napstablook be the one to reveal who the Knight is and the police code, like how he technically stopped the world from ending in UT Pacifist route because he simply didn't care?
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>>572656920
asgore's college pal was likely human and that's why flowery looks like that
or maybe toby forgot the women who churn out fanart and etc. for his stuff are mostly the tumblr sexyman lovers who enjoy a talking triangle more than some anime boy
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I think there’s a really obvious question we need to ask and forgot about
what’s the players motivation? why are they a soul? how did they get inside Kris?
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>>572655442
>>572656287
A problem I haven't seen addressed with any of the Holidays being the Knight is the implication that the Knight was active long before the prophecy seems to have "started" and somehow caused Dess to disappear
>>572656336
Is it? If the Knight wasn't actually going after Toriel, then what was their goal with the Dark Fountain in the Church? The only reason Toriel missed church was because she got caught in the rain and ended up getting distracted by Sans (something I'm starting to think he may have done on purpose.) Maybe the Knight doesn't need to actually kidnap Toriel, but it does seem like it genuinely does want something with her
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I LOVE RALSEIIIII
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>>572655372
>>572657002
thank you both
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>>572657143
hey kris how's it going
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>>572657117
Flowery is based on Rudy...
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>>572657143
...Said no one EVER!!!!!
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You killed my friends for 1000 pink coins?
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>>572657118
no one's talking about this because we're no closer to an answer to any of these things than we were in chapter 1
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>>572656968
GIWTWM
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>572657118
1. Presumably some meta shit like us just wanting to play the game
2. Gaster
3. Whoever interrupted Gaster
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Sometimes I look at cute au stuff like this and it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Then I remember that Toby Gaster will do everything in his power to prevent this from being canon and I get a little sad.
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>>572657258
pregnancies that ruin the body is such a specific fetish
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>>572657134
if the knight wanted toriel, why would he make a dark world in a building that toriel (and everyone else) had already left?
no matter which way you look at it, the knight does not want toriel. they had multiple chances to grab her and just didn’t every time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wKyGRwx-dI
I've been listening to this stupid song for hours. I just feel motivated to draw while listening.
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>>572657118
My motivation is to say nice things to Ralsei and make Kris date the goat femboy.
Gaster made me do it.
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>>572657118
I wanted to play a video game?
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>>572650520
Something something PinKris
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>>572657118
>what’s the players motivation?
Ralsei's butt.
>why are they a soul? how did they get inside Kris?
Kris performs dark rituals at night, ask Catti.
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>>572657258
I can appreciate scars being drawn on mothers to reference past births, even if I don't think they would really show through fur. Carol-anon did it in one of her drawings and it was nice.
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>>572647495
im still quite satisfied with this one
and that one reverse bunnysuit Seth a couple of threads back
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>>572657346
>tog
but would he pronounce it like "pog" or like "toad"
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>>572657378
ALL pregnancies ruin the body in some way, anon
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>>572656749
Toby actually was inspired by Time Hollow on the DS
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what kind of tongue does susie have
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>>572657390
I was literally just about to post in the thread asking about this song, we are psychically linked, thank you anon, now get out of my mind
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>>572657346
Tony hates togore especially so we'll get a scene of him crucified in ch 7
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I'm falling!
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>>572657410
so the soul is a demon?
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How do you alter the outfits from masculine to feminine?
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>>572657383
Because Toriel was supposed to come back for choir practice. I don't know if the Knight actually wants to bring her to the shelter or not, but I do think that weird beam shit it was trying to do to her was more than just stalling for time
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>>572657461
I think we've seen it before and its not forked or anything like that, its a normal shape, just large enough to accommodate her big snout-mouth.
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>>572657378
not everything is a fetish
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>>572657537
No the soul is a biblically accurate angel.
Highly esoteric music video related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYamdgkT1r4
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>>572656336
>it’s pretty obvious the knight wasn’t actually trying to nab toriel and was just stalling until the real target, undyne, arrived
imagine being this retarded
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>>572655148
That's the mandatory Jevil fight
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>>572657562
Why am I playing with this party of queers...
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I CANT GET THE FUCKING HATSUNE MIKU BOSS THEME OUT OF MY HEAD
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>>572657378
It’s female body image vent art not fetish art
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>>572657562
why would I do that my gang is cute as is
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This obviously isn't true and it's just a hypothetical, but say you're Toby Fox and you genuinely wanted to do pirate gaster and people guessed pirate gaster - do you go through with it anyway and have the audience think you ruined the character to appeal to some dumb fan meme or change it to have him spooky mystery man?
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>>572657461
idk but that shit is long
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>>572657585
what about berdly
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>>572657595
It's unfortunate that there are some people who will fight you on that. A shame.
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>("Noel Hollyday")
>("Kris Dreamer")
>(I'll put those names down, too.)
>(I still think they deserve to win...)
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What if Pippins ocs as pirates for Gaster's crew!
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>>572657604
This picture I found the other day makes me genuinely want a Chapter 6 Egg Room fakeout sooo bad, it would actually be sick
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>>572657570
>I do think that weird beam shit it was trying to do to her was more than just stalling for time
you have to be genuinely retarded if you think the knight was actually trying to grab toriel with this, they could’ve easily snatched them in the same way they did asgore. instead they did the slow ass tractor beam shit to bait the gang into a battle.
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I want to touch Aqua
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>>572657258
maybe the internet does needs to have an ai overlord guiding us. thanks metal gear solid 2!
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>>572657736
That would be fun
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>>572657627
Whoops that was the static image version of the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ITIZtRayQ
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>>572656946
It doesn't make sense for a kriselle amalgamate to be a player in this when we know carol is literally a main player.
Kriselle amalgamate has no reason to return to hometown let alone be kidnapping people into the Shelter if Noelle is the lead personality.
If the Knight is Kris as lead personality then why would Kris let you do the weird route?

It just doesn't make sense anon, even if Kriselle knight has amnesia from the fusion how the fuck does Kris know about what the thorn ring, weird route, and your control over them? and this all doesn't factor in that kris's end goal is to go nowhere and gather shadow crystals as confirmed by the sword route.
And also the hard confirmation that the dark crystals which showed up during the original fountain are related to the knights sword, so who was the other knight? or has kriselle knight just been doing nothing after their initial loop?
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>>572657182
Looks cool but not actually a representation of the character
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>>572657604
My mind still is imagining them adrift in a pitch Black Sea, holding onto life
Before something takes notice of them.
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>>572657729
>I still think they deserve to win
Might as well fucking stab me.
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>>572655227
Onionsan as a fat woman
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>>572657698
It took me a few days to get it out of my head! It's way too catchy!
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>>572657829
its not supposed to be?
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>Hey guys so I saw a 7 foot tall deer amalgamate darkness monster floating around town. Didn't think it was really important to bring it up until now. My bad
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>>572657201
is he?
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>>572657752
Bitch can you read? I clearly said I don't think the Knight's goal with Toriel was actually taking her to the shelter. The Knight still did it's slow ass tractor beam shit after they were all knocked out, the fact that Undyne interrupted at that exact moment was pure chance or sloppy writing
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>>572657869
New episode of my news show soon. I am accepting editors to help along to help document North Korean life.
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>>572657938
Anon...
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what would have happened if spamton neo killed Kris and took his soul?

what is the HEAVEN that he alludes to? is it just the light world?

if yes, would that mean any darkner could get into the light world if they got their hands on a lightner's soul?
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>>572657461
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>>572657398
>>572657410
basef=d
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>>572657923
To her that's just he cousin Rory Nite, she doesn't know he's up to dark world antics and such.
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>>572657923
>I just thought it was ICE-E. No big deal right?
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>>572657938
>Your dad's my best friend!
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>>572656009
Kris is more like Takumi Nishijou than Okabe, but Berdly built like Daru would be kino.
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>>572656749
I genuinely can't think of a single thing Deltarune has in common with Steins;Gate unless you already assume there's a time loop. Maybe if Noelle had a learning disability.
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bwuhhhhhh
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who is togore
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>>572657985
>pure chance
it was literally intentionally set up by Kris, who we know was working with the knight
did you play the game with your eyes closed?
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The visual of Pink's meltdown actually looks right at home next to the other schizo bosses. Who'da thunk.
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its hard for me to understand any of the theories honestly
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>>572658012
Heaven is probably the light world yes, as for what happens when a darkner takes a lightners SOUL we have no idea.
All we know is spamton wanted your SOUL so they probably can assimilate a SOUL.
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>>572657117
anon...
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>>572657985
>I wrote it's instead of its
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>>572657729
This shit actually got me.
Choked me up.
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>>572658103
He's just a little fella, he don't hurt no one
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>>572658064
>>572657996
well excuse me i took what flowery said at face value
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>>572652573
I NEED HER
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Did people really struggle that badly against Mewmew and Flowery? Neither is anywhere near as hard as the Knight. Flowery is easier then Jevil. MewMew is easy if you use the right armor the only slightly tricky attack is the small bombs.
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>>572658103
Inferior fan character with autism
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>>572657938
Did the Christmas color outfit and the BEST FRIEND not make it clear to you?
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>>572657562
It's random except for Ralsei's Maya outfit which only appears in his individual ACT
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Am I the only one who finds it a bit ironic that Kris actually might be more evil than Chara, especially with how people in the fandom portray Kris compared to Chara?
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>>572658103
reddit meme for spergs who cant relate to chadriel
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>>572657438
I really like that kind of realism because it helps the characters feel like people who have lived rather than static figures existing only for a present story
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>>572657118
To complete the mission
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>>572658086
finally we're moving up(diagonally) in the world
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>>572658253
>christmas color
it's green and brown!
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>>572658086
Not Toby approved. Too high res.
>>572658251
Shut up Toby
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Similar to the knight fight I found some of the harder pink attack variants easier then the default. Like the bomberman shit wrecked me but the giant bombs were easy. Here's a split second decision over where to go to not get hit by multiple bombs versus a giant blank spot telling where to go to not get hit.
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>>572652585
Someone else forced it to happen, probably a member of the knightspiracy if not Kris themselves
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>>572658261
I think Noelle is more similar to Chara than Kris.
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>>572658109
If Undyne showing up at that exact spot at that exact moment, and not a moment before or a moment afterwards, was actually what their plan was, then their plan was terrible
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>>572658261
>kris
>evil
they're insane and suicidal but not evil.
- t. charahead
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>>572658261
>demon who eats worlds and corrupts children into genocide is less evil than an angsty teenager who wants their childhood friend back
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>>572658335
it's the Habbo Hotel version of Deltarune
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>>572658305
makes sure to move diagonally to go faster to get reduced times
only pros know this strat
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someone should draw him in chris-chan's sweater with the caption liquid kris
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>>572658073
Not that anon but the only thing even interesting about the SG loop is that it is initially presented as a simple "Timeline A" and "Timeline B" until you later find out all kinds of recursive bullshit and there's really a "Timeline C" as well.
For Deltarune to reference it would require making heavy use of the aborted routes somehow mattering to the normal and weird routes but I think anon is just a fanboy based on how little he actually tries to defend his SG time loop theory.
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>>572658012
Maybe for Darkners, the light/dark divide is the equivalent of the barrier from Undertale.
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>>572658117
thats good evidence for my susie is a darkner that killed dess theory then, thank you
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>>572658378
the plan was thought up by a couple teenagers so that tracks
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>>572654913
Souvenir from holocaust museum
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>>572658462
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i think it's kind of funny and sad that undyne wasn't mentioned a single time this chapter and no one seems to care about her anymore
like what the hell
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>>572658458
>carol lantern
awwwwww
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>oooooh Im such a hardcore spooky scary goth girl!
>AAIIIIEEEEEE IS THAT A DEMON??!! S-sorry Krissy youre on your own!
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>>572658458
chapter 6 is going to be his dying dream
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What was the point of Kris slashing his mom's tires in a town where you can walk from one end to the other in two minutes?
What an asshole.
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Why are there so many cat bosses? Why is cat the only typing that matters? We're definitely getting a cat boss with fire attacks right.
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>>572658591
based
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>>572658575
AAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE
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>>572658306
HE HAS A RED AND GREEN VEST WITH A WHITE UNDERSHIRT
IF THAT IS NOT CHRISTMAS
FLOWERY IS ITALIAN
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>>572658591
i miss him :(
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>>572658625
you were supposed to forget about all the bad stuff for one last fun adventure
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>>572658625
Napstablook mentions her
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>>572658625
napstablook literally mentioned her though
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>>572658625
She's just a cop and isn't related to anyone or personal friends of the people in the game.
Even her relationship with Alphys got reset.
Pretty realistic reaction considering Asgore is the only one who maybe cares about his former coworker but he's busy with bigger fish this chapter.
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>>572658641
It would be fucked up if Rudy was the one that made the Darkworld somehow.
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>>572658647
So Undyne would come over to investigate so they could kidnap her. Were you not paying attention to the end of the chapter?
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>>572658709
I can’t forget. Trying to forget about the bad stuff and have fun just hurts more than facing it all! I’m left feeling empty.
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>>572658647
To get the cops (Undyne) called to lure her to the Dreemurr property so she can be Knightnapped
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Has any theory ever been right about anything once
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>>572656138
Noelle is going to be pissed when Susie reveals that the Cyberworld wasn't a dream. Susie basically played with her emotions rather then told her the truth. Why would she be happy about that? On the Snowgrave route finding out she actually put Berdly into a coma is going to fuck her up
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How did you feel when Kralsei became Canon?
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>>572658656
Who could possess such magic and wants to face stronger opponents? Who knows? Ha ha ha ha...
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>>572658702
or he's IRISH
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>>572658826
Conflicted because I don't know what Ralsei is exactly
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What if Toby announced a Mew Mew Kissy Cutie animated series that was a stealth Undertale/Deltarune show?
Like you it gets announced and it seems to be completely UNRELATED to anything UTDR but its actually Mad Mew Mew Dummy in the Undertale Post TP world or some shit.
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Yo it’s kinda fucked up, why is Kris’s room so empty and bereft? I never paid attention to how much better Asriel’s side looks.
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>>572650272
updated this a bit
was gonna do more but I realized I don't know how to write sans dialogue
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>>572658085
flowery pubes soft like milkweed floss
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>>572653656
>took until the literal end of the game for that to become apparent in UT
This is not remotely true. Sans can and will react to resets as early as when you first meet him. In fact so does Toriel and Flowey in the ruins. Time loops and resets were a cornerstone of the world building in UT and were established almost from the word go but so far none of that has actually been suggested at all in Deltarune and it's quite a stretch to figure they'd feature super heavily this late in the game. Now I actually do subscribe to the theory that there's time bullshit going on in DR but at the very least it's much different than it was in UT and nothing at all suggests that Sans is aware of it happening on any level or that he has any special knowledge.
>>572653983
This doesn't really mean anything.
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>>572658892
A fag goat
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>>572658892
Hes the condom is Kris's wallet
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>>572658826
i didn't even notice that uniquely excessive blush sprite when i played this part
what was going through toby's mind when he drew that
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>>572658915
everything toby does for the rest of his life will be stealth undertale
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>>572658793
>Trying to forget about the bad stuff and have fun just hurts more than facing it all! I’m left feeling empty.
And that's the point of the chapter.
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How will you feel when Gaster isn’t in chapter 6 or 7
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>>572658809
the theory of the chapter 5 dark world being in the flower shop was spot on
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>>572658892
Ralsei will be having the worst identity crisis in all of existence in the coming chapters
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>>572658826
happy as a longterm kralsei shipper
a little bummed that it was so saccharine. i want some weird route tier toxicity please
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after replaying the game fully, i dont care about tenna. just make flowery do ch 3 and its easily twice as good
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>>572658887
>all of his voice lines get replaced with irish cursing
that would be a good mod for the game
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>>572658516
I'm surprised you haven't brought up the Ace Attorney connections. Susie's character was inspired by Maya. Her whole thing is being able to channel spirits, specifically her sister Maya.
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I guarantee all the Suselle dislikers would not be happy if Kriselle or Krusie or whatever the fuck happened in chapter 5 out of 7 at the lame ass festival. True love is always best saved for the last act.
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>>572658826
I don't like Ralsei. I simply don't care for him.
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I have come to hate the word """lore""" very, very deeply.
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>>572658809
Kraut was guessing that a Flowey type of character but not literally Flowey Undertale was going to show up since like chapter 2. He just didn't really get anything else correct about it.
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>>572658936
Suicidal people travel light
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>>572658936
Kris knows his time is up. He has no future. No need to decorate his room.
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>>572658976
gotesexo
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>>572658826
Why is this even part of the plot I don't understand WHY is Ralsei being in love with Kris so important to the story, more specifically it's awkward because he's the one love interest Kris doesn't seem interested on
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>>572658704
Chris Chan died?
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>>572658813
>Why would she be happy about that?
Because she is madly in love and would crawl through miles of shit and broken glass just to touch Susie's tail
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>>572658793
I get that, I enjoyed the chapter a lot but I felt anxious, like I was just waiting for it to fall apart.
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>>572658382
I would agree with that if to me it wasn't so coincidental that the two fountains that we see Kris opens without our control are the fountains that the knight attempts to kidnaps Kris's parents.Maybe even the first church fountain was possibly intended for that too considering we don't know what Kris does after leaving us in Noelle's house, and I am not sure they knew about Toriel going home early. But fair, I maybe should have put the evil in parenthesis at least since honestly, we don't know the full story.
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>>572658956
Not involved in this convo, but do you know about Sans's bread?
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>>572659008
vindicated
knew that motherfucker was a red herring since the undertale days
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is the knight (dess) going to get defeated with the power of friendship like what happened to the god of hyperdeath?
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>>572653636
Where could this even possibly go in a way that would make sense within the narrative we have for DR so far is more my point. Unless Toby reveals that Sans is some all knowing time god or something stupid as hell like that.
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>>572658785
>>572658801
I didn't put that together because real cops would never show up for something like that
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>>572659032
the only main boss i care about is queen to be honest because she's funny and her line about noelle's sad searches stuck with me
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>>572658983
I'd do it.
There are authors who just have one continuous series of books in the same world and they just shake it up by exploring different parts of the universe they've created.
I'd def fucking watch/play anything hed make.
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>>572658936
There are multiple explanations:

>Kris has been suicidal for a long time
>Kris genuinely sucks ass at everything
>Kris is secretly talented but has given up on his interests because of the time loop
>Kris doesn't want the Player knowing more about his personal life
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>>572658575
The air crackles green with freedom.
You are filled with the power of the cat sign
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>>572658012
He noclips into reality and becomes Spamton loaf
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>>572658976
We wasn’t thinking with his mind
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Hometown is a prison and the sjelter is the only place that's free. The sjelter code symbols represent the prison boundaries: trees, police tape, and DELTARUNE, both the prophecy and the game/device. The sjelter has a way to break through the last boundary and go free, but you can't bruteforce it. The lake skip gets you there a little early, but you still need to get through the parent/guardian locks. The Knight is playing the role of the Knight as prophesized, but its personal goal is to break through the locks so it doesn't have to be part of the prophecy/game anymore. This motive works for basically any Knight identity you can think of and ties into the meta themes.
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What did Toby mean by this
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>>572659194
>real cops would never show up for vandalism
what shitty fucking city do you live in where this is the case?
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>>572658647
So Susie wouldn't get the bright idea to chase the Knight on car.
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>>572659183
no because the knight is rudy. dess and gaster arent in the game
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>>572658639
Please don’t post photos of me without my permission
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>>572656150
Your Frisk, Chara and Aqua?
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>>572659138
did you miss the rest of the conversation or ralsei's desire to break the prophecy or kris being the one with "free will" (as far as ral's concerned, probably)
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>>572658656
Undertale was a dog game and Deltarune is a cat game. Nutdealer will be a mouse game.
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While I don't believe in Kris-Noelle fusion Knight, I do think a Kris and Noelle fusion would solve a lot of problems. For example: they can both have Susie at the same time now.
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>>572658382
Chara wouldnt let Asgore get kidnapped
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>>572659194
Luckily, Hometown has weird fake cops that do things and Undyne is just really, really into her job
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>>572659298
their tail is really $$$ing big and fluffy
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>>572655227
Seth laying in bed wearing a night gown (and chubby) (femboy or female, both are peak)
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>>572659298
Foreshadowing macro titan Ralsei I think
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>>572659176
Yes. I think it's likely just an Easter egg because >>572659189

Truthfully I think people are just desperate to make Sans some cornerstone of Deltarune's narrative that he's simply not at this point.
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>>572658936
I think it's less about Kris and more about Asriel being a perfect golden boy with a variety of nerdy interests, success with women, and a promising future at college. Even without being in the game yet Asriel's life casts a big shadow over the entire existence of Kris. The Kris side is to intentionally not reveal anything about the character to us but also the sheer difference in the two.
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>>572659051
>Grow'n like a potatae 'aven't ya Kris?
>Raly ya shite ya
>Susie give that bird of yers these flowers, she'll love em, swear on me ma's life
>GET BACK HERE YA FECKIN WINDOW LICKER, YER NOT STEALING GOREY FROM ME
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>>572659138
It's a cross between an Evangelion reference, a Star Wars reference, and an Umineko reference.

Ralsei is a reflection of Kris but is a partial reincarnation of Dess. Dess got the Gaster treatment and the bulk of her mind is trapped in the Depths while her body parts and SOUL merged with other things.
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>>572659330
does the dark world automatically heals your diseases or what?
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I like the character development Noelle goes through in the Weird Route, but I'm going to be disappointed if she makes eye contact with us and realizes she's literally in a video game
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>broke
rudy knight, amalgamation knight
>woke
dess knight
>bespoke
asriel knight, carol knight
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>>572659298
if your castletown is moist it's going to waurder some kind of funny tail
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>>572659426
need her hooves in my mouth desu
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Will Rudys dying words be a lore dump that explains everything or "Noelle is your..."
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>>572659418
>nutdealer never reveals the mysteryman, either
based
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>>572659189
Oh, I have zero clue. Another interpretation could be that they leave a trail of crumbs so they still have the possibility of finding their way back? I really don't know where the weird route is going to go, but not even Toby would put in three different mentions of breadcrumbs if they weren't going to be important
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Chapter 7 will not only check for weird route completion, but UT genocide completion. Chara will appear and vore you if you've been naughty.
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>>572659509
i need to shoot you umifag
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>>572658809
Flower King dark world being anime themed (before the trailer confirmed it)
Mew Mew being the secret boss
Dog/cat/mouse theory
All /utg/-exclusive theories by the way
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>>572658405
To be honest, the one who is corrupting people to genocide is the player. Chara isn't the one choosing to fight instead of acting, the one playing is. If Chara were to corrupt people then why do we only see the tonal shift in the game that occurs with that idea after killing a bunch of people instead of when Chara awakened from Frisk's fall?
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>>572659431
Asgore didn't want to leave and also kicked Kris and Susie out. Like, he could've walked out at any time. Getting kidnapped is on him desu
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>>572659536
I assume it'll work like UT's meta elements where the universe just functions that way. They're not LITERALLY in a video game, instead the universe just functions like a video game.
Like with the Backrooms for another example.
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>>572659298
Foreshadowing.
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>>572659595
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>>572659576
He'll just talk about Asgores cock
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>>572658936
he's a man and asriel is a boy
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>>572659504
>I HEAR YER A RACIST NOW RALY!
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>>572659550
IS FUCKING DESS

WHO ELSE IS GONNA BE!?

EVERYONE ELSE IS FINE, DESS IS THE ONLY ONE THATS DISSAPEARED/DEAD
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>>572659680
dude they make medication for that if you want
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>>572655227
anon i need the full of that seth NOW
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>>572659632
you’re wrong chara made me do all of that
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>>572659517
the sickness is all kayfabe and the nurse is paid. we never see a doctor in all of hometown. where is his patient chart
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This chapter confirmed that Asriel skateboards and yet I haven't seen any fanart of him as a cool skater
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>>572659742
toby calm down you can't expect them to use their brains
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>>572657258
Incredible that the same game that inspires funny gaster pirate songs also inspires very moving depictions of maternity
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>>572658936
It's funny how much people tried to dismiss this back in the day as a thing though when it's so obvious that even Susie has a special encounter that points it out and has her try to fix it in chapter 4 lmao.

In fact Susie seems to be the only one that gives a shit about Kris's homelife. I guess Toriel is too busy getting drunk.
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There is no greater despair than being a monoknight theorist
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>>572659804
this is true i was there
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>>572659742
They also forget the foreshadowing in WR and schizobosses is on ANGEL HEAVEN and not the knight
If they're fusing to some assimilated fusion being in the lake they're going to be something with wings with all the talk of wanting wings to fly away
The knight doesn't have wings
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>>572659817
He squidboards, like in Spyro 3.
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>>572659742
i hope it's not dess just because you dessknightfags feel so smart for coming to the most obvious conclusion and you all need to be humbled
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>>572659742
dess is the only one it can’t be, since she’s missing/dead and the knight is very clearly still alive and doing fine
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>>572659875
well, there are two black knights in chess...
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can anyone tell me what rudy has? what is rudys illness.
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>>572659742
It can't be Dess, she wouldn't be old enough unless Dess was the knight as a little girl. ...Or there's more than one knight and she became the new one.
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>>572659998
dying sickness
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>>572659851
coming to love the characters as people is one of the reasons why these games are so good
>>572659998
gay
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>>572659998
The plot flu
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>>572659998
aids/hiv
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>>572659781
>dude they make medication for that if you want
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>>572659998
ligma
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>>572658826
the fungang will be a quadrouple
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>>572659998
aids
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>>572659998
AIDS from all the gay saunas he went to, with Carol's permission of course
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>>572659742
>>572659835
In terms of the narrative I don't feel like Dess can both be the Lost Girl and the Knight at the same time
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>>572659998
shards treatments
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>>572659863
Honestly, if I looked at this room IRL I’d assume Kris is being abused. It could be just their preference, but it looks bad. Is there implication Toriel gets drunk often? It’s kind of hard to imagine her as a bad parent like that.
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>>572659964
>chess theory
really nigga
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>>572659998
Steve Jobs
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>>572658306
It is a vomit colored sweater. Flowery is a failure of design because like 1/10 players picked up it was Rudy and either believed Asgore went to college with monkeys or that Flowery was Asriel.
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>>572658247
I beat mew mew without any of the puppet/cat armor she's easier than Jevil
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why is there a fucking sneakers o toole reference
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Skate fast eat ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6NtjzxHGIk
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>>572660128
Kris is abusing himself
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>>572660128
She canonically gets drunk a lot in UT. I don't think she does very often in DR, though she did seem to find it totally cool to have Kris take care of her and he seemed used to it so who can say. At least she seems to be a happy drunk and not a mean one.
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>>572660102
Kris is canonically a furry
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>>572660193
the sneakers o’toole motif is very important and plot relevant
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>>572660121
so you want dess to stay as a mentioned character and nothing else?
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adults drink, anons
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>>572659138
Ralsei relates to Kris because they're both at the mercy of higher powers and yet Kris seems, to Ralsei, more self-assured and self-reliant ("your fingers just know something mine don't.") There's some dramatic irony to it because we the player know that Kris's sense of self is currently crumbling like Pizzarina's cookies, but Ralsei just sees the outside. It's like when he tried to heal Jackenstein but just kept hitting his mask instead of the real Jackenstein inside.
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Kris it's time for your swimming lesson
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>>572659138
Toby loves incest
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>>572660171
ligma balls LMAOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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>>572660308
never pictured his outfit like this but it's very erotic
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>>572660193
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i miss the pippins drawfags. will they ever return?
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>>572659298
If you water Hopschef's bread he makes the same joke and it's really funny
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alright so that means rudy isnt ill, right?
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>>572660317
Fucker trying to pull that shit knowing he made him a darker than dark being who'd get killed if the soul got inside him is a choice
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>>572659998
pipis
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>>572660380
a good number are still here broseph
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>>572660436
>>572660436
>>572660436
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>>572660380
look at the whiteboards
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>>572660193
IM NOT TAKIN MY ARMOR OFF
IM STILL ROARING OKNIGHT
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>>572660465
there are several i don't see anymore
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>>572659594
It's so they can find their way back
Or so the people in hometown can find YOU
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>>572660380
"Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." -Sun Tzu
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>>572660128
I don't know what Toriel has to do with Kris's room, is she supposed to decorate the room for them?
I think it's just Kris's personality and interests at work, that and Toby wanting to make a very clear comparison between Asriel's achievements and theirs (or lack thereof)
WHAT could Kris put up in their room based on what we know about them so far anyway?
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>>572660298
I mean it just makes way more sense for Dess to be a motivation of Carol and the rest of the conspiracy than for her to actually be the Knight
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>>572660015
Take the cyclical prophecy pill
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>>572660308
I think some kralsei shippers have said before they like the doom and gloom yaoi vibes precisely because both of them are shackled to fate
>Ralsei believes Kris is more self-reliant but is crumbling on the inside
Man I think Ralsei's gonna be completely mindbroken by the end of this. All his hopes seem in vain and fears will come true.
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>>572659221
>Kris doesn't want the Player knowing more about his personal life
he told everyone to start calling him they at the same time he cleared out his side
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>>572660556
weaboo shit, Kris is a filthy anime lover and only appears to dislike anime so we can't exploit him
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>>572659998
He has a low constitution
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>>572659998
Anime wasting disease
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>>572658709
Repeating this doesn't make it true. A rest before only works if the heroes know what theyre about to get into, like the Calm Lands you face Sin. The party is lost and is far from getting into the shelter at the start of chapter 5. Theyre still stumbling into dark worlds and discovering codes by chance.
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After further review I think I still like Krusie despite the suselle shaped brick toby threw in my face.

Susie's about to get it right back with mandatory character development session though. Chapter 6 looks like the party splits up chapter.
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>>572659998
The disease Mary had in Silent hill 2.
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>>572651482
people think toby is changing the story to spite people guessing the answers but the reality is that people just suck shit at linking clues together and operate entirely on vibes and minor details.
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Uuu?
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The pure / shadow darkner type is less discussed but kinda puts a whole into the idea all darker than dark things are evil.
Jackenstein is one and he is a fucking joke boss.
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>>572660556
They don’t hide the cage, does she not question wtf that is? He sneaks out the window a lot, has she ever noticed? Maybe it would be weird and I’m not a parent, but I would encourage him to decorate it or at least gift him things that he’d like in hopes he’d put them up and liven up his space. Toriel normally seems like the kind of person to do that, maybe even more overbearingly loving? Is it just bad writing or is she really a bad parent? As did fine…
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>>572660257
Toriel had almost no shame her child was making breakfast for her hungover ass. I guarantee you she gets always hammered when its not a school night.
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>>572658462
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>>572661196
And she runs the church
Kek
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>>572661143
Kris's side looks like everything was thrown out. Or maybe it was hidden just before chapter 1 to fuck with the player.
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>>572661261
How goes the lovequest Kris Chan?
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>>572661329
Very possible. Maybe I’m over thinking it, but if I were in Toby’s place I’d meticulously think about these things and even something so simple tells a big story.
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There won't be a dead Rudy horror boss because there wasn't a dead gerson horror boss when Susie made that botched one
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>>572661410
Both my gal-pals are looking at each other more than me. Maybe if I was a girl, they'd include me in their conversations...
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>>572658936
kris hid their stuff away so that we wouldnt learn about them.
that, or kris secretly switched over to sleeping on asriel's bed (he moved away so it makes sense that he'd take his stuff with him) in order to trick us into thinking that they sleep on the empty side of the room
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>>572661027
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>>572659068
Just not a game I've ever played. I think I tried it once and found the logic of the evidence really fustrating
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>>572659068
>Maya channels...Maya

You mean Mia?
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>>572661445
I think Toby will explain this shit at the last minute unfortunately
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>>572662440
Problem?



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