Order Up Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>572662636
**** Shiv
WHERE ARE THE SILVER BUFFS WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE DEVS SMOKING
>have like a 5 game lose streak>punts me from archon 5 to emissary 5the actual fuck is this gaben
You what would be really funny? If they made a mod where all the female characters are naked and pregnant haha
Uncarriable dogshit matchmaking.Actual dog teams.
>>572753191there's a mod where they're all pregnant>link?just google it
YESSS YOU NIGGER HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY GUN IVY INSTEAD OF BUYING A COUNTER ITEM FOR THE 4 M1GGERS ON THE OTHER TEAM YESSSSSSSSSSSS FUCKING SUBHUMAN MONKEY
today I sticky bombed my drifter who had just stalker marked a mina who was trying to run away, and he teleported in to instantly nuke the fuck out herI really fucking love some of the improvised ability interactions in this game
>>572753218you have a tr>>572752889you had a tranny celese on your team, what did you expect?
>>572752752>Have to wait 80 seconds for ult to cool down>Have to charge up before it can be used>Activates automatically which wastes the cooldown in situations where its not necessary>Ult form isnt even that strongThis is some retard level balancing. Humiliation ritual at this point. Reminder that her ult used to have a 20 second cooldown at launch. If its going to take 2 business days to cooldown then the player should have some control over when it pops.
>>572752231AGP Silver media in the OP, the perfect representation of her fans
>>572753824Reminder that even at launch she was considered mediocre by the masses
>>572753916>see drawing of woman>"this is AGP media"something on your mind champ?
>>572753958>Reminder that even at launch she was considered mediocre by the masses-of tranny secondaries, but OP by anyone with any competence at the game, as she has been in every single patch.
>>572753824>Ult form isnt even that strongit is strong, you just don't get to be in it 24/7 after all the nerfsyou are now an ultbot. deal with italso deserved
>>572754035>looking at the camera>"you ladies">errrrm projecting much?????Your pilpul needs work, Rabbi Silverstein, I don't think you're fooling anyone after so many failures.
>>572754070Nah, the trannies are the ones that thought and still think she's op, just look at night shift.
Who do I watch if I want to get better?
>>572754212lmao do you even play the game
>>572754243>"looking at camera">"nobody but men can say 'ladies'"you're insane and a compromised goyim, sorry that Rabbi Silverstein got to you but now you have to go in the oven. Very sad.
>>572754357metro
>>572754273she's like mid-bottom B-tier now
new urn/rift is the fucking worst in low elo games. Dumbasses will be down 30k and still want to contest riff instead of just giving it up and trying to get a walker or pushing lanes. Now we lose a walker, rift, and we're all dead cause we took a stupid fight congrats retards
>>572754357me (i only play brawl)
>>572754656you get ~8k soul advantage per player in stats when 15% behind, so the earlier you are in the game the better it is to contest a "losing" rift
>>572754212They should just make her stance switching hero and give her ult a 5 second cooldown. The forced transformation is a failed experiment.
>>572754924is minute 35 early in the game
>>572754656>I just want to jerk off a lane until the walker falls instead of fighting icky peopleI can't wait for the pve update so you miserable fucks can stop queuing
>>572752231sex with silvie
they did something within the past few days to fuck with matchmakingI feel it in my balls
>>572755005if you go all 6 into the rift it might be possible, but it highly depends on if you have ults and if the pack of APs is negligible
>haven't played in so long, my rank went to Obscurusaaaand we're back! I got pushed up here from like, Emissary when they did that last rank adjustment. but the games are a lot more balanced than before. pretty sweet
>>572755021have you ever played a moba before or did you start with overwatch
crazy how silver has always been the absolute worst hero in the entire game, always a throw pick no matter her stats. and yet it seems that a significant portion of players and even top tier players claim she's op? and the devs agreed and nerfed her? wtf is this anti-silver agenda going on bros? she has never been good and no one has ever done good on her and if you say otherwise you are lying
Gotta say i'm enjoying support McGinnis.Obviously it sucks when you got a shitter team but I find it plugs the holes a bit and once you get it going, even the healing specter leaves you and your team pretty tanky
>>572754934ult form will probably need to be heavily nerfed in that case and the character will be fully about ability weaving between 2 formsmaybe it will work, i was thinking of just reverting the "rage" buildup to be faster
>>572755424WRONG
People don't know it yet but Kelvin is secretly S+ tier this patch.
>>572755610FUCKMEANT FOR >>572755358
>>572755716>enemies buy healbane>diesdome is a death trap and all you're doing is heal beaming allies to safety and healing them with nades with the regular support crap like kd sh and others
>>572755356She was decent but reality finally caught up with her. I can no longer win games with her. She is just bad now.
>>572755356look if you dont buy counter items and just let her hit you in wolf form she deals almost as much damage as a normal m1gger so shes op ok
What if Mercurial Magnum on Slam Fire
i queue into streetbrawli shoot my gunssimple as
>>572756359>Quicksilver reload on the ability that reloads for you
>>572755716>my Kevin builds for grenade>levels beam last>zero active items>mostly spirit and some green>somehow ends the game with less healing than our Celeste>0/10LETS GET THE HOOSAKAS
>>572756359Merc mag adds like 10 damage per shot on silver because her scaling is fucked
When you're on teams that just won't stop brawling, the type where people die then immediately zip back to start another fight, is it best to just ignore your team and go macro? I'm so tired of getting into this deathloop with these brainmelt players
>>572755716Has there been a patch where he wasn't at least A+? I honestly can't remember.>>572755932>dome is a death trapbut does it heal enough to where you can save someone with it now? I had someone get pissy with me for not saving them while I was keeping everything else on lock with ice beam and nades.
>>572754243The follow up picture literally is her showing her hairy pussy so erm stfu
>>572755287I was playing mobas when you were in kindergarten, in all likelihood
>>572756635Yeah you're correct, just tested, it does fuck all. I'm aware it actually does nothing on werewolf but turns out it also just boosts a single pellet on the gun or whatever other nonsense happens. It's like ~120 more damage at max boons.
>>572755716>secretly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>secretly
>>572757128>Silver is supposed to have a Penis!
>>572756827it heals ~400/s with full investment and BS and booster (realistically you're only getting ~330 tops)the thing is dome cleanses ONCE on activation so you can still easily be cucked inside of italso kelvin isn't really strong outside of heavily organized teams because you're gonna get cucked by braindead teammates and paper characters in your team that get deleted before your nade lands to heal themfor soloQ he's like mid of B at best
Shadow Weave on Calico is pretty fun
silver is still S+++ havent you seen the tier lists? no not the one that shows win rate the one that made by that retarded tranny that thinks silver is op
>>572757903Surprisingly not as fun as Veil Walker, honestly
Why are all the melee items no reward for maximum risk?
>>572758016Statistics cannot change my delusions without my consent.
when are we getting actual good character designs instead of tumblr fanart
>>572758172because when melee items are tuned to their risk, the only people that benefit are those with setups that guarantee heavy melee hits and they kill you instantly.don't fucking heavy melee randomly like a retard.
>>572756584>Kevin builds for grenadethere's the problem
>>572755716*traps entire team inside dome along with enemy victor*>in here, I am .....ACKKKKKK
>IM ROOOOOOONING AWAYpussy ass character
>character is clearly op>but their winrate is lowwhich heroes does this sort of phenomena apply to?
infernus if he was normal
>>572755932>healing beamThat's the funny thing I don't build him like a supportsissy but a spirit carry. I use dome to secure kills or try to save my ally who is low with dome + nade.But usually my nade + beam will do enough damage to the enemy they back off.
>>572758896>Good character design is when my gachanigger cunny obsession is pandered to.
>>572759189if they're so op why aren't they winning their games? even venator isn't winning his games in eternus
>>572759640>kelvin>spirit carry>when you can't even kill a t1 with a maxed nadein what depths of shitlow are you
>>572752231
>>572759949escalating beam rapes
>>5727599950
>>572760076in what games are you allowed to beam for 10 seconds straight holy shit
>>5727599951
>>572759949EE is strong and makes me come online, but before that I'm worthless.>what depths of shitlowAscendant 6 - Eternus 3
>>572759358>heheheh, you see that crap?
>>572759995>cheating
>>572760221a4you've been able to cast other abilities while beaming for ages now, do you even play the game?
>>572760221They need to do a hard rank reset. Too many people are playing in ranks they shouldn't be in, because they got boosted playing with their intiate friend when they were oracle, pub-stomping arcanist/ritualist players.
>>572759070 (me)Oops sorry meant to post an image of ivy
>>572759995>people unironically use the nightshift skin
>>572759995yikeeees
I need that doorman chat image, you know which
>>572759189>>572759884
Should I be playing Geist or Drifter to climb right now? Ascendant btw not sure if that matters
>>572757128While looking through fanart I stumbled into the artist of OP's image and xher constantly draws silver being fucked by Celeste's horse cock or even her being a horse, alongside Mina and other disgusting shit It's literally tranny art by tranny for trannies
well bros?
>>572760518whoops did I say Ivy I meant Wraith
>>572761534give it the ol' schizo 1 and rename your account "kill yourself yoshit"
>>5727615341
>Calico every game on the enemy teamI don't even think she's *that* good but she's so fucking annoying to fight
>Keep winning standard games>Feel the lose streak incoming>play brool to lose their instead>Keep winning broolBros...
>>572759189sinclair. if you can pull it off he's comically over powered. however 99% of players cannot pull it off
Did they just scrap that Vyper model from months ago or are they just too fucking lazy to add it?
>>572753336>support and spirit ivy get significant buffs>people still think gun ivy is even remotely a thing just because she can buy capacitor/siphon and be a worse m1 until your teams 50k ahead
>>5727599956
>>572762583Nah sinclair is ass. >Highly draft dependant>Bolts are inconsistent as fuck>Rabbits don't do anything until late gameLike on paper he sounds OP but he's good evidence why something can sound strong but be useless in reality.
so is there an actual reason on why seven is so high? we keep getting proven time and time again that seven is a shit hero especially with that nightshift yesterday and yet his winrate is good even in eternus
>>572753824It needs to be usable on demand and none of this dumb charge up shit.>>572758963You're supposed to just rush beam build with max beam then max path and then build a refresher at 28k with your maxed out dome and just literally automatically win fights.
>>572762618They probably don't have anyone who can animate the tail properly to fit with all the schmovement the game requires or something
>>572762874>nightshiftHAHAHAHAHAHA Who gives a shit about some retarded trannies, pub stats are all that should matter for balance discussion
>>572762874Because with an uncoordinated team he's difficult to shutdown and he has free team fight damage in the AoE slop brawl meta.
>>572762874He's simple, braindead easy and comically OP in a pubs settingYou just press 4 and autowin every single teamfightOnly thing bad about him is his lane and lane doesn't matter really matterAfter that your farm speed is comically overtuned so you can just stat check every single hero in the game.
>hero is only OP in an edge case scenariowhy do people not realize that this means that the hero is actually shit?
>>572762618Sorry friend they're too busy working on their next objective which requires more AoE slop to win
>>572762874Organized play != pubsWhen you don't have good comms and nobody trusts each other to do their job, everyone just fucking scrams the moment Seven presses 4, at which point the fight is a foregone conclusion whether he actually gets interrupted or not.
>>572763262>After that your farm speed is comically overtuned so you can just stat check every single hero in the game.This is also why people like Shiv aren't that good. Farm speed is king.
>>572763257
>Farm speed is king.I guess bomb giest and splat viscous are the best heros in the game.
>>572762874Easy to pilot, very independent since he can farm better than pretty much anyone (and jungling is stronger on this patch than it was before), strong ult that requires counterplay from the enemy or else is just autowins fights meaning he can just server admin any lobby below emissary and even once you hit the rank where people know what Knockdown is you can still just farm until unstop once you see that bought.
>>572763613>You hate pancakes so you must love waffles
When do we start getting characters that can pierce spell immunity?
>food analogy American hours.
crazy how they just keep on adding characters that feel shit to play against like graves/apollo/silver
>>572763854>You hate food analogies so you must love strawmen
>>572763873uh oh, silvertrannies aren't going to like that statement
>>572763418Yeah similar thing with Silver. You can have a amazing early game but one death and suddenly you're the brokest bitch in the lobby and it just spirals out of control because you can't farm for shit so you have to keep trying to make game changing plays with less and less of a soul leadMeanwhile seven just auto clears the jungle/solo lane and emerges with a 8+ k soul diffThey need to gut all of the carry heroes desu they're all like barring mirage and he's more of a drain tank now I guess so it doesn't count
>>572763613Ah yes, Geist and Viscous with their amazing ult that can single-handedly win a teamfight against people that can't stop them
>>572756274She will be 14/2 and the 2/5 m1gger is matching her net worth
If you aren't at least in Tomtom I you haven't beat the game and your opinion doesn't matter
>>572764397Also the 2/5 m1gger will have dealt more damage than silver
>>572764556ERM... I held W against wolf silver as a half hp seven and died, she's fucking OP okay??? Silver nerfs when???
>>572764721So trueExpect nerfs next patch
>>572764343Viscous cubing himself during the goofball has zero counter play
>>572764721Nah you're good mate. Just zip line and kill her. She can't do anything without her ult. She can't even farm in the meantime because her clear speed is shit. Now she is perfectly balanced.
That old dota stove comic with axe needs a deadlock version with silver as axe
>>572764525trvke...
>>572760532i didn't like Super Sized Silver nor Loona Silver so i got this instead
>>572765283I use PTSD Silver now but I'll probably use maid Silver whenever that schizo on Instagram releases it
>>572764950Why is viscous allowed to use all of his abilities during goo ball again?
Ive been playing for 40 hours and im still initiate, what should I do to climb?
>>572760532It has cookie on splash art
>>572765575Stop thinking about climbing right now. Find the heroes you actually like playing and bee yourself.
Remove the teleporters from the game
>>572763579Shut up
>>572762583literal magic niggermeme character
>>572763854sorry bruv let's banter about the local sickness spreading in our village yeah?
>tell team rift is NOT the play>billy insists it is>lose rift team fight because team cant focus low HP people and seven just keeps poking them from afar>literally the turning point of the entire game was a rift i TOLD my team wasnt worthI love having good game sense, winning lane consistently, having a positive k/d, getting most obj damage and yet my only sin is I play vindicta
>>572756635>because her scaling is fuckedNo, it's because it's a shotgun, and it is technically working as intendedMerc Mag adds a % of weapon damage. Shotguns have very low weapon damage, but release multiple projectiles. As a result, Merc Mag adds very low damage to shotgun heroesTry it on any of the other shotgun characters, you'll see
>>572756635>because her scaling is fucked
>>572767104>getting most obj damage as vindictahow? is your team not pushing at all or are you force pushing and dying?
ITS TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD
>>572767868bro, I fly and focus OBJ if I know my teammate is distracting or fighting.Nobody even realizes im damaging walker until its dead then I turn the fight with my mates.Of course I also pay attention to their HP and don't let them die or else it kinda wasnt worth (unless its early/mid game)
>>572767995I should also add that sharpshooter allows her to deal damage to base towers without even being in their range.it's kinda great
>>572767892pretty sickevery time I see someones concept for a remodel Im curious how you retheme his claw the rest of his kit could easily be made alchemisty except that one
Finally hit Seeker 1 for the first time :D
>tfw scared to queue standard
>>572765575https://youtu.be/-NyPdE6mL9s
>>572763854You're getting heated over nothing mate, put on the AC.
>>572768378good job bro!im arcanist myself trying to fight my way up, made it to Arcanist V before the game decided to fuck me for 4 games in a row
Give McG a new ult already
>>572763579Nah, OP's still go that award, nothing is queerer than our AGP Silverberg infestation.
>>572768780it's one of the more unique ults in the game though
>>572762263There isnt a hero designed that isnt fucking annoying to fight
>>572768780no
holliday is actually infuriating me and now I can see why pros play her a fuckton>barrels are mini nukes that can do up to 500+ damage on hit if you build them right>She can get 4 fucking bounce pads that INCREASE HER AIR SPEED making her damn near uncatchable if she enters a bad fight (opponents dont get this)>her bounce pads make her explode for like 300 damage if built for spirit>Her passive ability makes her shred if she builds for headshots (why doesnt vindicta get this wtf valve)>Her ulti lets her capture and drag an enemy INTO their team so you'll always get caught out no matter what because she can jump in and drag your bitch ass to her teamholy fuck what a cancer character. Whoever decided to give her an insane escape is a retard and I want to strangle them.
>>572768207The hand
why does archmommy hate hidden zaddy so much?
>>572771021Messy breakup.
>>572769506>Her passive ability makes her shred if she builds for headshots (why doesnt vindicta get this wtf valve)pls noShe's aimbot bait enough as it is
Does Vindicta have the longest range m1 before damage falls off?
>>572771696>implying holliday is any betterThey can both stay up in the air infinitely, the only difference is one's entire kit is BASED on being a sniper and the other is a cowboy larper whos hunting a retard with a stupid name
>>572771778Yeah but not by much iirc
If you haven't taken the guardian by minute six you are inting
don't minda blood on dat its euuhh gently yoosed
>>572771778yes by like 3 meters. Where everyone else does like no damage, at best with a full build she can do 100 before they run
Abandoned another game!
>paige gets parried and throws the lane
>Holliday, Shiv, and Drifter (then)>Holliday, Shiv, and Drifter (now)this community is so fickle
>>572773793BASED
>refuse to rank up past phantom because it has the coolest emblemi WILL throw when im Phanton 6 to maintain my rank.
Its outhttps://youtu.be/iLd5e68N1qQ
>>572774113nooooo you have to rank up to trannyface rank
Hmm yes, its my fault I can't rank up because I can't carry the mentally retarded.
>>572774525>Hmm yes, its my fault I can't rank up because I can't carry the mentally retarded.Yes.
>>572774301https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdI3NaaGAeo
the fuck is this retarded tomtom rank meme?
>>572774730>he isnt tomtom rank
Killing the feeder who died 20 times being worth almost the same as killing the enemies who are playing well is so bizarre to me.In Dota killing someone who is hard feeding gives you fuck all, while managing to take down the most oppressive enemy is what actually gives your team a shitload of resources and comeback potential.
>>572774301I can't believe xqc is in Eternus.
>>572774981Still in testing please understand
>>572775245Didn't he get one of his esports friends to boost him?
>>572774981ok so you're saying you want a feeder who just walks down and suicides for objectives
I'm so tired of games lost at minute 0 because the matchmaker stacked all the metaniggers on one team
>>572775245every single game he's boosted bro.Aint a single game aside from OW he's good at.
>>572775464That's actually a good way to make a feeder useful, just turn him into a super trooper
https://litter.catbox.moe/bkefyr.mp4
Why the fuck am I getting garbage ass players on my team now.3 games in a row its just shitters playing a new character for the first time or deadlock for the first time and cheerily admitting it like it's some kind of morale booster.Im so fucking tired of this.Walker downWalker downWalker downSTOMP STOMP STOMP STOMPI just want a normal fucking game god fucking damnit
>>572775464Bring back the 424134 strat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1Msu-oWRU
>>572776796lol
>Play gun character>Build slowing rounds>Upgrades into weighted shots giving you the same slow but also decreasing your ms>Play Seven>Build mystic slow>Slow them and their dash speed>Upgrades into lighntning scroll with the same passive debuff as a stat and now upgrades you already aids ultimateReally now how THE FUCK is a seven going to hold S and out run me, an ulting silver (5.5 bonus MS, weighted shots, point blank, enduring speed)
>>572776924paging dr. dunning-kreuger
>>572777267paging retard who is feeding on his team
>>572776796bastard
>>572775245It's really not that hard to get eternus, especially if you duo with better players like he does. Someone with former pro fps experience can easily climb with one arm tied behind their back, the people playing this game are really bad.
>mokrill gets Torment pulse>im raped
^ the raped
man I liked gunshift. I dont get why we didnt get to experiment with it a bit longer...
I'm seeker btw
I'm crusader btw
>>572762860>Highly draft dependantThe only ult I can't use is Haze.>Bolts are inconsistent as fuck Skill issue, if you can land them consistently you two-shot people at just about every stage of the game.>Rabbits don't do anything until late game???A pocket AoE curse is pretty good at any stage of the game.Also funny how you don't mention the teleport with a laser beam. Opening rounds and improved spirit with assistant gun is fucking RANCID amounts of damage.
>>572759189Shiv, Mina, Pocket.
>3 members on your team feed 10 kills each before 20 minutesJesus please just add team lives already, and if your team dies 50 times a giant monster just comes out of the sewers and ends it. I'm so tired watching myself bleed out for 30 more minutes while I shoot ghost bullets at unmovable health bars while getting turbo ass blasted from AOEs across the lane
>>572762263More than half the cast fall into 'obnoxious to fight/play against' right now. Icefrog balancing is truly something.
>>572782235haze ult should pair with assistant and turn it into a minigun turret firing at whoever haze ult targets
>>572768814
>>572785363lol the tranny has silver living rent free in his oh wait HER head haha
>>572764950It reverses his momentum, you just stand there and then kill him as he bumps into walls trying to get away after cube ends.
>reach phantom>hop on smurf>cant win in archon games cause teammates are legit braindead apeshmmm, how do you play these matches when they jungle and half the time 2 or more teammates do 15k damage or less
>>572785940I'm hardstuck archon, let me know when you find the answer to this predicament. I just played a match with a calico and mina that did combined 30k.
Another exciting match of deadlock where the Abrams + Rem duo gets five kills in lane, rapes the first rift, buffs the void creeps and insta takes a walker leading to a 10k+ lead less than 15 minutes into the game
Its actually crazy how many players in my elo underestimate Djinn's Mark.I had a Yamato duel me 3 seperate times because they saw the damage I was doing, felt confident, then died from well over half health while I healed pretty much to full from the lifesteal.
>>572787432Are you supposed to build it up then pop for damage or spam pop it with max cooldown reduction?I would like to play Mirage more but I am getting filtered by this conundrum
i really want to get a full page of wins now that i am so close
>>572787578You try to build it up to the max stack which is 4, 5 at T3 but if you know it'll kill or put them in a position to kill like you can melee them or a teamate is on them, then pop it.mid-late game, you're keeping track of who invested heavily into spirit resist or dispel magic until you pick up ricochet which will apply it to everything pretty much.
Sex with Venetor.
>>572787862>cheats
I wonder if they are gonna actually balance/rework Silver or just start bouncing her between garbage and halfway decent with the same stat change over and over.
>>572787979this comic is basically canon but she should be trying to fuck abrams not ven
i like to watch streamers with no viewers who play deadlock. after not watching any for a month i go back to see if my deadlock waifu is streaming and she deleted all of her socials. this is my personal 9/11
>buying hollow point (35% wpn 9% shred with a shit conditional) when brs gives consistent (always on 9% wpn 10% shred) for half the cost
>they make urn into a more selfish objective that mainly makes YOU stronger and only shares souls with people within range>suddenly everyone wants to run urn and loves running itnooticing
>>572785940You play whatever m1gger is meta and carry. Play selfish you see that teammate that is getting raped? You leave them unless you know for sure you can kill their rapist. Otherwise you let them die and secure the troopers for more souls..
https://youtu.be/5qXZRvWSVLwThe capture contested track reminds me of Half-Life 2.
>>572790302lol
>>572785986>>572791169I got shiv and dropped 20 kills that seems to be the answerHigh damage high lifesteal high mobility frontliner to make shit happen and not die instantly
valve should add a chinese woman to deadlock.
>>572792373>mina
>>572792601That's a dog-eating gook from Korea. I want a Chinese woman.
just had a mentally ill tranny faggot and his boyfriend on my team who kept telling me to eat his pussy and calling me cracker on voice and we still somehow won it was one of the funniest games i've ever played desu
white mina will save deadlock
>>572793581link their profiles
I hate this game so much. Basically to 1v1 anyone you need a gun build, and someone like Wraith or Haze. Or you need that retarded overpowered Shiv, with his 10s cd for Slice and Dice. Or you need Calio. That's it, every other hero can't be played as assassin, even Geist with Focus Lens that can be removed. They literally ruined Geist to the ground and they keep buffing Shiv, I'm afraid Valve might be genuinely retarded. You can't even play Geist before she's maxed out and then she'll still suck in 1v1 with underleveld Shiv
>>572793581sounds like standard frankfurt/vienna server stuff
Toxic teammate took shiv and complains the whole game, he gets doorman ulted and before slice and dicing to the end he actually falls out of bounds so he misses the jump and dies to doorman ult. So I commended him LOL
gunshit ruined this game
>>572794497Also it is funny how melee characters can literally bonk Haze out of her ult, this is so retarded, like holy kek, imagine buying so many items specifically for you ult and then someone ends you with a slap and he has like 4 cheap items for melee
whats the point of actually parrying the guardian when you are pushing it? just to take 100 less damage and look cool?
>>572795619Buildings take more damage from melee, and parrying it stops it using it's own melee attack so you can punch it safely.
>>572795619it makes it stop attacking for a bit
vindicta should have been a black girlboss
>be on NA>get russian on team>the one time he uses his mic he complains he didnt get a solo heal>runs into enemy dies>leaves the gameSometimes I wonder why Russians exist.
>>572795938>in deadlockc'mon now
>>572793541What's the difference
What rank do you have to be so that you're not a below-average player?
>>572796620>BAAA-HAAHAHAHAAHAHA>UAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>>572796773Oracle
>>572796773asc
>press ult as bebop>people just walk away or stand behind something>or just shoot me since i can barely move>its also a thin laser so it requires aim>negative turn speed>ult as mcNiggis>has inbuilt move + dash slow, stacks with lightning scroll so no one can escape>cant hide behind a little cardboard box because the explosion actually hits behind it>cant shoot me back because im in my heal aura>giant aoe goyslop so impossible to miss rockets>full turn speed controlWhy does hyperbeam exist? It is the worst ult in the game currently by far
>>572796773eternus 4
>>572797473hyperbeam should go through walls
ever since the new patch all my games have one faggot who goes 30-0. Is it smurf season or something]?
>>572797473skill issue.
>>572797473viscous ult
can we fucking have just ONE eldtrich non humanoid hero jesus christ
Lash should be able to hold his ult for as long as he likes, like how Apollo can
>Get annoying faggot Paige players on my team>Look at their steam profile>Profile decorated with anime girls and clubs about lesbian/yurishitWhat causes this?
>drifter overtook seven in winrates>kelvin less than 0.2% away from seven winrateAbrams and Dynamo back to 60% next remember these words
>>572798173>constant stuns is actually.... le badTales from archon
>>572798625https://tracklock.gg/players/1107903035check this tranny's steam namethen check his played with (literally all new accounts with less than 10 games played)2000 matches stuck in oracleit's beyond sad or spooky even, i don't think there is a word to describe it
>260 posts in 9 hoursWhat happened? Did a janny nuke the thread or is the patch that bad?
>>572799007the game is too heterosexual and western for this website.
all in a hard day's workplease buff his gun damage he feels mediocre now
>>572798314lash can hold me in his arms for as long as he likes
>>572797473bro your majestic leap???
I'm so fucking sick of Victor not only does that FUCK just have to walk towards you with a damage aura but why the FUCK does he also need a FREE XTRA LIFE that also is a GROUP STUN.
>>572799150His gun got nerfed for a reason. This is a MOBA, not CS.
they need to remove this crouch tapping shit for speed boosts. I thought they already did to prevent rapid fire sliding, did they remove it or soften it or something?
>>572799274faggot
>>572799238Yeah victor is probably the worst moba hero design I have ever seen, genuinely wtf
>>572799409Crouch what?
>>572798187viscious
>>572796620>What's the difference between a gook brat and a perfect Han woman?Everything.
>was oracle in March>stopped playing for a while>return yesterday>Obscurus rank>play one game of Abrams to get back into the groove>defeat>Emissary IIIIn case anyone was wondering what you can expect with MM decay after a few months hiatus
>le french man of free healing, blindness, and damage
>>572801420He is incredibly humanoid.
>>572801536>le "melee" ability that hits you across 1/4th of the lane and is undodgeable
>>572801667the spirit part is long range, melee part is close range (why was it the opposite for so long????)
>>572801536this guy was literally perfect at 50.1% winrate idk why they buffed him so insanely hard3m/s buff at t1 upgrade lmao
>>572801539he's not, at least his true form. for (obvious) balance reasons they aren't going to add drastically non-humanoid form characters, at least if the devs aren't completely brain dead. as it stands now heroes like seven and mo&krill have to have crit damage reduction on their head.
>>572797473because mc gonalds ult was the worst in the game and at one point bebop had like 110% spirit lifesteal and did 8 mammalian damage so get fucked
also drifter ult is so good for teamfights and literally impossible to miss. probably the easiest ult in the game
>>572802112It's just not very impactful sometimes
>>572798151>5 v 4 in your favor urn fight that forces people out of cover to melee the urn with ivy and geist blanketing the entire area in ground dots in a low rank matchI know it's low rank because of your items btw
Been a while since my last "tilt queue until I can end on a win" 6 game loss streak but it looks like my time has come.
Valve needs to add more hags to this game.
>get a match where abrams feeds me 10 kills in lane>next match get an abrams on my team that feeds his lane about that much and then says he doesn't know what spirit resist is when told to buy it
what are some character that can be fun from the start? I don't want to grind for fucking items to only have fun in the end
i've recently played like 2 games where i fed early-game, but me and my team come back late-game and i end up as mvp/key playerhow do i stop feeding early-game? i'm also really far behind everyone else in terms of souls and farmingi'm getting last hits, but i'm still like 500 souls behind
>>572802364this genre isn't for you. the only ASSFAGGOTS that didn't have itemization was HotS and that commercially failed after like 2 years
>>572757903if she was a black catgirl and not whatever she is now i would play her. until then i will continue playing paige.
>>572802364drifterjust kill people continously dont give a shit about macro or farming creeps or buildings
>>572775245He one tricked spirit abrams and got some fag to boost him, literally fucking anyone can get to Eternus that way since Spirit Abrams is so braindead.>What if... Victor had no downsides!What do you call this, anti feature creep?
>>572802621>how do i stop feeding early-game?play safer or buy more greens>i'm getting last hits, but i'm still like 500 souls behindenemy is probably running boxes or doing neutral camps between waves
>>572775245>former overwatch pro gets into top 2% of a gameWTF HOW
>>572798187100 rats in a trench coat
>>572798187We already have Rem
>>572801521EmissaryKING...
>>572801521kek ranks are going to be so fucked up with next major update since 50k+ people are going to be returning
how many fucking times is yoshi going to tweak numbers before he accepts that vindicta needs a kit rework? her flight is both her biggest source of damage and the clunkiest, most victimizing "movement" ability in the game. it was scary when walljumps didn't exist and the global skill ceiling was lower. now, it's a deathwish half the time that you're afraid to use lest you need an escape, because for some fucking reason, she still has 2 stamina while GT has 4.
Counterspell cooldown to 60 seconds, but now has 3 charges
>>572801521>>572803281Emissary 3 isn't that far off from Oracle, it's three divisions down so one division per month of absence. Doesn't seem so outlandish to me. Not to mention it'll probably bump you up a lot if you start winning.
How to fix the game>make it so m1ggers can't buy any of the following>counterspell>dispel magic>unstoppable>indomitable>curse>divine barrier>stamina mastery>warpstone>veilwalker>shadow weave>eshift>cheat death>quicksilver reload>majestic leap>diviner's kevlar>any lifesteal>plated armor>juggernaut>metal skin>spirit resilience>witchmail>enchanter's emblem>spellbreaker>rebuttal>silencer>inhibitor>toxic bullets>escalating exposure>crippling headshotGame is fixed.
>>572775245Ricochet Abrams...
>>572803893how to ACTUALLY fix the game>make movement more responsive so it's less like red dead redemption and more like tf2>punish players for leaving in-progress matches>way less visual clutter mid-late game (tho, how would you even fix this?)>less stun mid-late game
>>572803893Why are carry players always the most loud and obnoxious group in any moba?
>>572804038>make movement more responsive so it's less like red dead redemptionKEK get a better setup, not Valve's fault your brazilian ass got input lag.
>retards in the other lane feed the fuck out of the infinitely scaling hero to the point where the game is impossible to come back fromthis fucking matchmaking update can not come soon enough
>>572804124maybe i'm used to tf2/ow responsiveness, but deadlock feels a bit sluggish to meit doesn't have input lag, it just takes longer to get full accelerationi understand that higher responsiveness would probably lead to too much strafecancer for a moba, but i also feel like what deadlock has right now is a bit too slow
>>572804316unironically retards on reddit will have a fit if movement becomes too good again despite them not even playing at a rank where players have good movement
>>572798842>woman paying for boosting in a MOBAwho cares
>>572804378which deadlock player has the best movement right now?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7_QP3DPVLYi've stumbled across this guy and i've been mesmerized with the way he navigates around the map
>>572804316the game definitely had some input lag in 2024 at least for me, but now like you said it just takes a bit to reach full accel + most abilities have some wind-up, just compare shiv vs vyper daggers, shiv is instant while vyper has to raise her arm before it's thrown. venator shotgun is another ability you'd expect to be instant but isn't. victor's pain battery probably has the most intuitive wind-up animation at least. things like these can make the game feel muddy and unresponsive but i think it's fine as long as the controls are intuitive.
>>572804646first time watching zerggy?
m1 carry is so weak now. 0 agency for 15 mins if your team feeds its over
>>572804809i don't really mind abilities having wind-ups, i'm more talking about the core wasd movementi think it needs to be more responsive than it is right now, but less responsive than in tf2, to compare to another valve gamealso, a thought i had just now - what if different characters had different response rates? i.e. tanks like abrams and mokrill would be slow accelerating, but someone like mina, being a nimble vampire, would accelerate faster?>>572804953yes
>>572804646hope you get raped by a pack of wolves for linking this limp wristed faggot
>>572805095his wrist isn't that impressive, i agree, but he looks like a good player to methat's not a very nice thing to say, i think
>>572805063>i.e. tanks like abrams and mokrill would be slow accelerating, but someone like mina, being a nimble vampire, would accelerate faster?that's already how it works
abrams does more dps than most m1s with same souls and has 10k ehp:)
>>572805063it sounds like you spend too much time walking forward on the groundare you hardstuck alchemist?
>>572805238not really, nomina definitely walks faster than abrams, but their acceleration rates feel the same to me>>572805347i have 30 hours in the game, chill on me dawg
Any other Victorfags use zzerial's mathematically correct build to good effect? I'm having trouble piloting it (i.e. I have a 0% winrate using it) and need some gamer protips.
>>572775245>I got him in my game multiple timeshe did lowest damage in every game. vegas is shameless for boosting him
>>572805512he doesn't even use it anymore lol if you check his statlocker. just used it to farm youtube views
id rather kill myself than play out this game right now
>>572805828To be fair I don't think ever said it was actually optimal, just fun to use. I'm sure it's fun when it works but I've just been running it down. Back to metaslaving methinks.
>>572806048>le fun epic reddit meme buildis losing fun?is feeding fun?is wasting the time of others fun?
Which would be healthier for the game in the long term?>Abilities are weak with longer cd but items are strong>Abilities are strong with favourable cooldowns but items are weaks/less effective
>>572806280Like I said, it's fun when it works. Some builds are boring even when you win with them, but none of them are fun when you lose with them. Ya smell me?
>>572806285Items being strong means you just lose whenever a lead occurs
>>572805272They need to gut his spirit playstyleYou shouldn't be Victor but with zero downsidesIts nigger aids.
>>572803296Flight is to hover the ground while you shit out spirit damage, retardbro.
>>572805272>>572807335LET'S SEE WHAT THIS BOUNDLESS CAN DO
jesus fucking christ escalating exposure needs to get reworkedi shouldn't have spirit res + silencer and still take 3000 damage from escalating exposure
>>572807335>giving Abrams the batrider/dark seer treatment>"why is nobody playing the skillshot stunbot"This is what would happen.
>>572808304>stand and take damage from one guy for upwards of 10 cumulative seconds while he builds stacks>WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS HE DOING ABSURD DAMAGE TO ME
I feel like close range shotguns in Deadlock are mismanaged, game design wise. >TF2>risk getting into somebody's face (or ass)>remain accurate>rewarded with extreme damage>Deadlock>risk getting in a position where you can easily take a lot of damage both from the enemy hero and their teammates>remain accurate>it's not the laning stage anymore so you just tickleAnd both games even have damage fall off.
>>572809045almost like the shooting mechanics are entirely secondary and not actually good
>>572768207ghostly hand(s) that slowly materializes to grab you
>>572809157yeah, thisASSFAGGOTs are not real video games
>>572809045Spread weapons need damage ramping at close rangeExcept Pocket his gun is already turbo aids at point blank
>>572809045let's not make gun shiv a thing please
THE LACK OF LEAKS ARE KILLING ME THEY NOT DOING SHIT REEE DEAD FUKING GAME
>>572810731>actually wanting to enable attention whoresbe betteri'd tip yoshi 20 bucks for genociding leakers if I could, this includes Uncle Dane (hope he gets his steam account deleted when deadlock reaches 1.0)
>>572810731Here's a recent leak from one of TG channels:Silver will get nerfed
>>572811272i will never forgive uncle "pedophile" dane for making that random crits video, because now people associate removing random crits with him, which automatically means it's a bad thing, when it's really not
Lets not forget by the time we get the big content update (late august) it will have 8 months with no real updates other then MORE FUKING URN CHANGES
>>572811420just go to a server with a nocrits cvar nigga
>>572811580i want the official experience to be goodgame can still have a casual, fun environment without random bullshitalso bring back FUCKING quickplay, i'm so done with this shit fucking gamet. 6.6k hours in tf2
I kind of wish deadlock wasnt a MOBA... Such a unique style and setting. Feels a shame to waste it on a MOBA
>>572810613Mercurial Magnum on 2 isn't a thing?
>>572812047street brawl is right there
>>572812047>make it an arena shooter>steamcharts peak 7, dies after 2 days>make it a single player game>in 2026>make it a co op shooter>compete with 'Tide games and DRGAn RTS it is, then.
found another cheater using aimhack haze, like usualhttps://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199285674744
What the fuck is the point of the new urn? Just free souls? To stop the fucker with the urn you need to basically camp the spot with 3+ people, you ain't catching him while he's delivering
>>572812205>>572812304Actually I was thinking a more Half-Life esque game.
>>572812316>be me>eternus player so everybody is shit>viscous main>6v6 teamfight and everyone is spamming spells>chaos>enemy Graves parries whenever I cast goo punchI didn't even bother reporting because that nigger is getting himself caught eventually.
>>572812572>eternusOops I meant emissary. No way people have that presence of mind in my skill rating.
>>572812316how is he losing this often while aimbotting in arcanist
>tried spitit Haze>shredded Metal skin niggers with 28 spirit dmg per bullet it's ok, but too expensive for build to properly work
torment pulse on talon>get boundless, ee, tp, lifesteal + mobility items, get into enemies faces for easy charged shot hits, point blank instant owl detonate when they're low for stacks to increase torment pulse damage>20 minutes in your torment pulse is doing 200 damage per tick and you have EE for your arrows>deal so much damage that anything you do lifesteals you back to full hp
>>572812404ALL souls are cumshotted out of the urn on delivery, so you cant just yolo dive it. you will lose all of the souls if you do it while contested
>>572811726The official experience is picking a server to your liking though? Granted I stopped playing a year after the F2P update, but even then I had like 4-5 servers in my favourites, two srs bizness server with no random crits and tryhard community, two "vanilla" servers of people chilling, and then the one for custom and cp_orange slop.
>>572812812>honey it's 3 PM time for your urn rework
>>572812764oh and radiant regen included of course
>>572812873>The official experience is picking a server to your liking though?it USED to be like that, now the official experience is something called "casual mode", which lets you QUEUE into valve's official serversin the past, you could just connect to them manually via the server list, or using the quickplay functionnowadays, valve's servers don't allow ad-hoc connections
>>572813185damn game really turned to shit, glad I dipped out but that seems to be pretty much everyone that started playing in the orange box days
>>572813316i mean, the server list is still there, community servers are still there, it's just that the default tf2 experience right now is this new matchmaking system that nobody asked for (it's not even sbmm)i really wish they would bring back quickplay with scramble votes enabled, add a vote to remove random crits for the match to that and then we're golden
>>572811726random crits make the game better as a fun casual experience
>>572812724probably toggled after getting raped so many times on haze
>>572813870maybe if i was a soldier or a demo main i'd agree with that opinion
I want to rape Graves so bad so she won't be able to walk for months
>>572812764sounds great in initiate
>>572814002they're good precisely because they're the only thing that can stop a pubstomping sweaty demo or soldier main from completely shutting down a server, they let bobby.basketball.2010 who just installed the game kill the guy who's ruining everyone's fun and allow the rest of the server to play the game as well, hell maybe he'll even get more kills after that because his crit chance went up and he got encouraged by his own success. random crits encourage aggressiveness, rewards you for doing good, and prevents stalemates (or deadlocks, you might say). the worst random crit whiners are comptards (like dane) or aforementioned soldier and demo mains who shit their pants over losing their killstreaks when farming F2PsI've regulared nocrit servers before, they are sweaty as fuck, and games are either total borefest stalemates or steamrolls even harder than you've ever seen on valve servers, with no inbetween or fun back and forths or fun hijinks
>>572803296obviously, you're forced to play her like that nowthat doesn't change the fact that flight ruins her mobility and it's so cumbersome to build around that the rank one vin isn't even building boundless anymore to have move speed and flight uptime for escapes because she's that much of an item and snowball dependent victim, presumptive-shitasskun
>>572809045you misunderstand the intent, shotgun characters don't have shotguns to be rewarded for getting up close, they have shotguns to FORCE them to get up close because they all have really strong abilities point blank and they would be bullshit if they could also just shoot you from the other end of the street when they're on cooldown
>>572811726I personally think that crits should have a flat percent chance of happening instead of it increasing based on damage done.You're spot on about quickplay though.
being in the air longer than 2 seconds should rapidly drain your HP
my dynamo just goes afk because someone argued with him about ONE objectivemy calico also tries to solo mid boss and delivers it to the enemy 5v1i hold on for 55 fucking minutes but you can only 1v5 so long before they all get full inventorySAD
>>572817667>pick a nerfed dogshit hero>lose>crylol
>>572817554>Thinly veiled Mina Nerf
>>572817714i was 1v3ing heroes under their walkers the entire game while my dynamo stood in base hitting 10 soul orbns for 40 min and then missing 5 ultis in a row "trying"calico legit didnt do a single tthingmirage has 0 object and i dont think my native american archer did anything either
>>572817825I bet the drifter who was hard carrying you and the rest of his team didnt post on 4chan whining about his dogshit team, he just went next
>>572818259>700 obj>hard carrying
>>572818528Objective damage is what you do after you've killed the enemy team; the only objective damage that really matters is first walker for flex slot. And drifta was finding picks to make space while you were giving a T3 camp a handjob
>>572818259drifter didnt really do much he ppicked off their easy targets when they were low never really contributed in teamfights
Been rushing alch fire in lane on mirage and its working pretty good. 1 scarab on each creep + the fire is enough to clear the wave so I can just focus on harrass
>>572816172meant for >>572807342
another classic
>>572819258i cant dude this diff is insane
im sure we'll get a real team soon boys
WHERE IS SILVER
unpopular opinion: melee shiv was fine and we shouldve been left to experiment with it longer.Maybe they couldve tweaked his rage so his sustain is a little bit better but otherwise i liked the new playstyle. Felt more like an asassin than an unkillable spirit sustain dps monster. Idk where he is now wasnt the whole patch a huge buff to him without the dash changes?
>>572820495whenever these retarded changes happen, assume they're preparing for a reworkit was just a quick dip to see how bad his numbers would be
>>572820468In F- tier
how can i see my winrate with a specific hero on statlocker? this site layout is too complicated
>>572821669No... Get her out of there.......
how can I see my (you)s with a specific bait on 4chan? this site layout is too complicated
>>572821813She belongs in S+++ tier but she's never been above B tier
Melee Infernus.Think about it.
>>572822803for me it's arcane surge diviner's kevlar refresher 10 second stun infernus
I don't think this topic was brought up often, but how are these models looking when it comes to cosmetics?They slapped some sweaters and masks on characters before, but is there any indication of specific slots and areas that can be modified through an interface?
Lash's Ground Slam should deal melee damage
bebop's bombs should deal melee damage
Am I still in pissbaby low rank?
vindicta ult shoud deal melee damage since it's her bullet meleeing you
rift is a shitty forced objective
>>572823482And hyperbeam.
>>572823517everything below eternus4 is shitlow. e5 is pisslow and e6 is low
>>572823517Archon players are better than OracleUnless you're in Eternus 7, everything is pisslow
>>572823639What's an unforced objective
>>572823767Patron
>>572823767Midboss. You know it's not forced because people don't even come after a team wipe and I spam ping Let's Go Mid while fighting it alone for a minute.
>>572823767One you can decide not to do. Sometimes it's not the right time to do mid or urn and neither team takes the risk. With rift you better be ready for that pit fight regardless of the game's state and hope for the best.
>>572823829Forced to do it to end the game>>572823952Semi-forced because sometimes you need the rejuvs to win a fight>>572824054All forced because you need more soul economy than the other guysI accept all your concessions in advance
>>572812316>Dude has literally one good game in shitlow>Some coping retard instantly accuses him of cheatinglmaohis accuracy isn't even really high that game considering alchemists and seekers aren't doing shit to dodge
>>572802086still technically is the worst ult in the game, people just got creative
What does rift's existence actually accomplish?>more lane pressurededicating half of your team to have less impact than a single Tombstone, wonderful>more soulsUrn is even more important now since all souls go to a single character, who gives a shit about a wave's worth of souls per person>i just want to brooooolyou don't need an objective for thatI assume dinosaur wants to delay jungle rework for as long as possible, so we get this shit.
whats the fire rate speed equivalent to spirit
>>572824508but you dont have to start a midboss fight. You decide wether to start it or not. Rift is just decided for you that its starting. Urn before you could also decide wether to start it or not.
>>572827089Cooldown reduction.
>>572827270why can you slow fire rate of enemies but not their cooldown speed
>>572827493Faceless Void in Dota 2 has a spell that does that. Considering two thirds of abilities in Deadlock are spells from Dota, it's likely you're eventually going to see that as well.
Deadtards?
Silver kinda fucking sucks...
>>572827651would they add flat or % though?
what causes this delusion
>>572828572Yeah no shit they nerfed her for no reason like six patches in a row
>>572828572>Silver kinda fucking sucks...... me off behind the building after we leave the bar together.
>>572828014is she bottomless here?
>Venator twice in a fucking row>He 1 v 11s twice as wellI'm so fucking sick of this hero. Can't believe these faggots were trying to spin the narrative he was weak a few patches ago.
>>572828852Of course not. This is a high-class establishment, sir, and that would be utterly improper.
>>572829019Are you one of the unlucky fellows I've been raping in Oracle?
lollmao
>>572829104then what is she wearing?is it family friendly?
>>572829019He is weak thobeit
Is there a way to set ping limits? I'm sick and fucking tired of the game putting me in games with 150+ ping for some fucking reason.
>>572828575Void slows down the timer on your existing cooldowns.One day I'm going to make content slop of Dota 2 items, item actives, and spells reappearing in Deadlock because there is really a great deal of it, but I'm just lazy.And it's not just Dynamo Supernova. I can think of dozens of examples of either direct copies or analogues at the top of my head. If I told my Dota 2 buddy to imagine an Enigma with a phase shift, he'd freak out.
>>572829305Truer than ever
i want to play this guy
>>572829370>press F7>citadel_region_override -1that should throw you into your native region with minimal pingif it's still too high talk to your ISP
>>572829019im sorry facts dont agree with your feelings and anecdotes
>>572829345She's wearing pants and holding a luggage case.>>572829305>the strongest hero in the game according to nigshiftersFINAL KEK
>>572829618>She's wearing pantsif she's wearing pants then how does her tail fit there
>>572829305but she's still S tier though you just gotta hit your combo to deal less damage to a single enemy than an aoe slop hero deals to the entire team and then you turn into a shitty melee creep dont you have hands?
>>572829186Nah I'm a ascendant shitterI've been trying to play new heroes like Silver or Abrams and its so cock and ball tortureI so desperately want them to add unranked so I can fuck around and learn shiv, soon(tm)Right now the MM is scuffed since if you aren't playing your main you are the 50/50 agent because the game will put you up against the pocket or Billy one trick with 400+ gamesThis obviously ends in with your balls getting busted.
>>572827123You dont have to die for rift either
i need a single player rpg that is just Abramssomething like a cross between VtMB, LA Noire, and Condemned
>dies to m1 carry at 55minutes>"wow dude gun is so op fucking yoshi retard"
>>572829816>VtMB and Condemnedyou kill magical hobos in both games, what's the difference
>>572829723>play new heroes like SilverAnon please stop griefing yourself by picking the objectively worst hero in the game
e6 winrates right now
amazing how easy it is when the entire team doesnt go 0-14
>>572829305>>572829618>Silver's been nerfed practically every patch>STILL has a positive WR in EternusWhat do the good players do that /dlg/ doesn't?
>>572830251how is graves "the best character in the game" deader than silver
>>572830251stop forcing this site retard, can't even see how big the sample is
>>572830251>>572830450>51 matches>19 winszamn that's a massive sample size
>>572829803its not about having to die for it its about the game forcing a fight, are you dumb?
>>572830084Oh well aware of that>Playing silver into Venator>His m1 in 6 seconds does more damage than my entire combo + he has nade and CC>Also he has 3 executes that shit out damage for no reason>ALSO HE HAS THE MOST BLOATED HP POOL OF ALL TIME>While having 3 stamina (I get cucked to base 2)>While having one of the best clearing speeds in the game (Silver cannot farm at all)What a fun experience
>>572830251those are actually shivs and silvers lose rate %s. shiv and silver only lose 43 and 42 % of their matches respectively as theyre op currently>>572830494literally just hover over the winrates you dumb fuck>>572830507shiv has 400+ matches btw
>>572829723I find that hard to believe but big if true. Ven feels really weak but he's my top guy so I'm basically one of those OTPs in your games
>>572830412They go a super greedy snowball build and either go 18-0 or 0-18 decided in the first 5 minutes
>>572830494>>572830507Concession accepted. Buff graves gun.
>>572830412Eturnus trannies refuse to buy counter items
>>572830539Its not a fight if one side doesnt show up, just urn or split or mid
Did they change Slice and Dice's movement mechanics in recent patches? I thought it always required jumping to dash vertically
>>572829993Whenever I run into a player with trash movement that just lets me dome them in the head 24/7, I wonder if they think gun is OP.
>>572830616400 matches is nothing use statlocker retard. Idk why deathy made a worse site way after the stat site battle was already lost, idiot business decision
>>572830775urn you gotta decide to pick up and run it, mid you gotta decide to kill the boss, rift just starts. You dont have to go there but you cant initiate it the game forces that event on you
>>572830032one has tiddies
>>572830851they changed it like a month ago or something >>572830914statlocker has 470 matches and the exact same wr%
>>572799150It really is bizarre that of all characters in the game, Warden is the one they started nerfing so heavily. Not Pocket, or Holliday, or Ivy, or Kelvin, or Haze.Well, I mean, I guess it makes sense. Pocket, Holliday, and Ivy are tranny favorites, and Haze is designed for retards.
>>572830613>muh bloated hp what? He isn't even close to the most naturally tanky gun carry>his m1 is outdpsing my burst lol>his cclmao even>one of the best clear speedsYou certainly aren't eternus but you certainly are retarded
E6 is a literal meme rank where boosted meta slaves end up
>>572831275>It really is bizarre>nerfing the most braindead m1 in the game>bizarre>nerfing the one hero that got "a slap on the wrist" once every 3 patches since 2024>bizarreeat shit and cry
>>572805898Wow that is actually one of the most obnoxious team comps I have ever seen.
>>572831275>Pocketwhy are you grouping up a hero with a 45 wr% with some of the current top tier heros
>>572807168That is already the case though, snowballing in this game is absurd.
The highest ranked players in the world? Dogshit. If they actually knew how to play the game then they'd agree with me, a seeker.
>>572820495Shiv got buffed way too much and is overpowered once again, because he is a dev favorite.
>>572831725Metacucks aren't actually good at the game
>>572831564>He thinks Pocket isn't overpowered as fuckpsst, hey, you might want to check what his winrate is when played by people that aren't retards, it's like 55%>>572831543>Graves posteropinion discarded
>>572831450I've never claimed to be eternus mateSo according to you>He's only the second most tanky carry (This means its totally fine for him to have frontliner health pool)>His m1 sucks>His CC is irrelevant>His farming speed is irrelevantNice to know you live in a opposite reality anon
>patch>dingle-dongle -10% damage>RUINED, FUCK YOSHI>patch 2>Dingle-Dognle +5% damage, -2s cooldown>HOLY SHIT HE'S OP, FUCK YOSHI
>enemy team has wraikth seven pocket >my team's closest thing resembling a carry is grey talon>team plays like we're going to outscale latei wish i had a fast forward button on these matches so it didnt take 40 minutes to get to the part where seven 1v11 rapes our entire team
>>572832440>seven 1v11 rapes our entire teamcurse?
>>572832063>>>572831564(You)>>He thinks Pocket isn't overpowered as fuck>psst, hey, you might want to check what his winrate is when played by people that aren't retards, it's like 55%hmm!?!? you retarded fuck
>>572832102Oops I meant ascendant, point stands that you're lying out your ass or paid for your account.>you didn't agree with me therefore you think those are all weak aspectskill yourself
>>572832063>psst, hey, you might want to check what his winrate is when played by people that aren't retards, it's like 55%you meant to type loserate because thats his lose rate at e6
can someone spoonfeed me the super op seven build that can apparently 1v6 everyone in the late game?i feel like even when im farmed up im so squishy and just explode if i get jumped on. i still feel reliant on my team to keep me alive.
>>572832505>>572833045try building unstoppable and/or not positioning like a retard
>>572829391i think the worst if you look at DL through a dota lense is sinclairrubick but fade bolt does giga damage and he can steal your ult just by you being in vision of himlike, yea, there was a patch or 2 where rubicks' fade bolt did giga damage but it never killed me in 2 hits.that's not even bringing up the 10 second aoe polymorph
>>572833045By warp stone or veil walker a bit after laneBuy unstoppable and use it before you press 4
>>572832785What am I supposed to think when you say lol, lmao to his CC and M1 anon?Its okay your main might get nerfed but you'll remain oracle or whatever until you hit a really bad lose streak.
>>572829517Seems to have worked. Holy shit, thank you. Why isnt this shit default lmao
>>572831275Warden was an abomination until recently
>>572833907Rework him into a proper, pure spirit carry, none of this gay gun or hybrid bullshitHis ult build was so fun when I was in shitelo.
>>572831725This but unironically, my claims are backed by airtight logic while #1 uses "feels"
>>572831531TRVKE
>umm the game should be balanced for only the top 0.1% of players This is why the game is bleeding players
I could get E6. I just don't want to.
>>572834062I was ok with the ult build because I could simply dash behind him, they should lower his turn speed while ulting tho
>umm the game should be balanced for only the bottom 0.1% of playersThis is why nightshift is suck
>>572834269It's fine to say you think a character is a scrubstomper that makes your low elo matches unfun or is too difficult for bad players to use. You just look silly though when you insist players far better than you have no idea what they're talking about and a thing you personally struggle with is broken and immediately needs changed.
>>572834589Literally thisPeople would rather pretend E6 pros don't know anything and are fake pros or whatever
>there are real people out there that boot up Deadlock just to play Mcginnis, Graves and/or Victor
>>572834689those aren't people
>>572834589I really don't give a shit about some autists that play this game 20 hours a day, if they think a hero is overpowered they can buy counter items or get good instead of making the game worse for 99.9% of players.
https://files.catbox.moe/ez98zq.mp4
>>572834769>I really don't give a shit about some autists that play this game 20 hours a dayI didn't say you had to, you illiterate retard.
Every single fucking timeEvery single fucking time it's the team with more AoE vomit that winsLiterally just count the AoE ults when your match loads and you will know who's the winner
>>572835114You seem upset.
>>572833150Tbh I prefer playing vs Sinclair to playing vs Rubick. It's the kind of hero that's shit on my team, but godlike in the hands of an enemy.
>every single bingus>my team babingus>I ooga, they booga
>>572835343You seem mad.
>>572830412>604 matchesLad. That's not even close to a sample size. Eternus WRs are generally iffy because of how much of a tiny club it is to the point individual player skill is reflected but at least pick a date bracket with a few times more games than that.
>>572834769this. it's not like the old days either when the top players cared about the health of the game for everybody. nowadays people are so self centered the "pros" at the top don't give a shit as long as their bubble of 200-500 people get what they want.ultimately if valve doesn't want another artifact or underlords then they're going have to cave to the majority anyways, even if somehow that makes the game objectively "worse".
>>572835483this. so much this. retards will really post this 10x per thread every single thread
>go to /d2g/>ctrl+f deadlock>multiple hits every threadexplain
SPREADING ivy's cheeks and SNIFFING
>>572835813The good players should be expected to play around and counter op shit, but instead they refuse to while constantly telling the masses to do it instead.
@yoshimake Slice and Dice from shiv himself do melee damage, but the afterimage does spirit damage
>>572836115>/d2g/who
>>572836469Please no. I'm so fucking tired of characters getting hybrid damage for free, it's extremely bad for the game when all the overpowered m1gger characters do hybrid damage by default, except for like Venator and Seven.
Casual players whining about games being balanced for the 0.1% almost never have any idea what the hell they're talking about and don't even realize when top players are complaining about similar things or when patches are being made for casuals by the devs because they don't understand the game to begin with.
>>572836716I think it's much easier to just say that Deadlock has awful fucking balancing and the devs have absolutely no idea what they are doing.
>>572836716DING DING DINGalthough you should probably balance for the top10% instead of the top0.1%, the latter is too small to be reasonably accommodated for
What about silver attracts brainlet retards who have be to carried every single match? You'll be in the most important teamfight of the match everyone commed they were going and ping spammed and they're just running urn or farming jungle instead of helping. Is it because they know how useless they are?
>>572752231>furshit
>>572836849She used to be OP and now she's actually worse than Sinclair.
>>572836884sir, it's /v/core
>>572836951she's almost 50% winrate on the dothonest B-tier
>>572836849The hero is just worthless
Is there an actual source of these reliable metrics about character winrates or is every single "fact" in this thread pulled out of a poster's ass?
>>572837204statlockertracklock
>>572837076>e6 statsIrrelevant.
>>572837398that's e1-6also git gud ig
>character has 50% winrate at the highest level>not balanced>character has 30% winrate in pisslow>balanced
>>572786540frustrating how I realised minute 0 that taking the rift means taking the walker and it's now completely pointless to trade for a walker because the enemy WILL get a walker on top of the rift and urn and just sky rocket ahead. and people will take weeks to figure it out.
>>572837549>pisslow can't play right nor counter anything rightit's best we don't talk about it
Is taking the rift even worth it in a lane without walker?
Why did the "pros" and streamers screech about Silver so hard? I get why players in lower ranks did, because they're just parroting what their idols say, but what really was wrong with Silver when she had 51% WR in Eternus 6, pre-nerf?
>>572836716t. guy who plays a piece of shit braindead character
>>572837921>money>space>kills (if enemies are more retarded than you)yes
>>572837945too much ult uptime was always the biggest issue with her
>>572837624literally doesnt if they have someone to just kill the black creeps
>>572837921the little niglings are quite annoying and demand an immediate response if they reach a tower plus it gives a shitload of souls in the late game for capping it so yeah if it's free take it 100%
fix holliday nigga
>>572833332>venator getting nerfedScreencapping this so I can laugh at you when he gets buffed
Ivytards stop making threads on /v/ thanks
My billy>Makes it his mission to run straight into the enemy to feed them soulsEnemy billy>Walks into me and there is nothing I can do. Always has his ult up.
>oh reddit complained about seven having 55% wr?>guess we'll make drifter have 7% wr instead
>>572834453It's a dotanigger mentality
>>572836115they are both jealous and shit up by retards from here
>nerf x!>nerf y!REMOVE THAT NIGGER SHIV FROM THE GAME
>>572838134It's still funny to me how even the Silver players on here could only say to run away as counterplay without realizing that means, even if you're successful, that you had to concede any objective she's fighting you over every forty seconds.
>>572837945They armchair game theory'd her into being the absolutely best character in the game (in their head) and when it was clear for all to see that she isn't she doubled down instead of just dropping it.Yoshi listens to these retarded chimps too.
The fact that graves, a backline caster type character with some of the least health in the game and a weapon that can only fire on people in melee range is still one of the most bitched about characters shows the community should not have a single say in how this game gets balanced.
>>572838808you can also climb on a rope
>>572838983Graves should suck. Graves mains are the only people dumb enough to think that a girlfriend character like her should ever be good.
Which character do the devs jerk off to most?
>>572836952Quit being a furfag
>>572837945Because the bola shuts off tranny movement tech so it made them all seethe that they actually have to play the game instead of just do a 420 KickMcDick flip backtwist and bounce off the wall to fly across the entire map and avoid fighting her
>>572838763b-but the win rates!
>>572839356I know I'm talking to the guy who spams this general 24/7 about Silver but I have literally never seen a high level player cry about the bola
>>572838983It's because she isn't fun to play against regardless of her being good or bad. She's genuinely a detriment to the enjoyment of the game. This is an issue over half the cast has, though.>>572839152Celeste.
>>572839152Icefraud has a secret stash of Hoodwink hmofa r34 he commissioned, I suspect he's planning to build one for Ivy after release.
Ever since I've started buying counter spell on every hero i went from initiate to archon in a week.
>>572839484Lots of players have whined about it.
>>572839608Cause it's an OP item, just like Dispel Magic.
I had a Billy on the enemy team who was complaining about how overpowered Silver is, call me a "winrate warrior" after I pointed out that Silver has a 40% winrate. We had a Silver on our team who beat him in lane, might or might not be a coincidence
>Playing lash>Gank side line at 4 minutes>Gank fails because I am chud>Enemy calico comes to help her lane almost immediately >Now it's 3 v 3 while everyone sharing souls >My lane partner yells at me for leaving him aloneWhat should I do if the early gank fails? Just fuck off immidiately back to my lane and trade turrets if the enemy calico decides to stay for 3v2?
>mokrill gets counterspell>he becomes unkillable
>>572839809Silver auto wins every interaction with Billy so long as she has her ult up
>>572837945Nothing, the hero was never good. Even shitlows could counter her, boosted metaslaves in E+ refused to.
>game starts >doing well in lane and get a soul lead over the enemy despite no kills on either side>check scoreboard after guardians are dead>team already died 11 times on the opposite lane>can't come back from this because the fed player takes advantage of having double our souls 15 minutes in and steals all the farm and objectivesbrool mode has created too many retards that can't be saved, it's time to put them down yoshi
>>572838808You know that you can shoot and use spells while running, right? Also you have a team that can deal with the single target melee ranged hero while it's distracted chasing you.
>>572840067>never that goodExactly She peaked at like 51% winrate in their rank while there are like 4 characters who go unnerfed while above 57%. I guess I'm being a winrate warrior tho
>>572839508Hoodwink is getting added to Deadlock.
maybe silver shouldnt be able to a 1v1 a m1 carry while being 20k souls behind just a thought
>>572840609Um she could never do that and if she could you can just go up a rope and if you can't go up a rope you should just buy counter items
silver sucks just go on a zipline and leave kek
>>572840246many such casesas it turns out if teams are roughly equal in skill and one lane sucks the match is just over
>>572838983This is a definite truth nuke if I've ever seen one
>>572840796damn bitch close that squirelly ass mouth bugs are gonna get in
>>572840609She never could unless the carry decided to go afk
>>572837359Neither are fully reliable
>fighting silver >drop my ult on her, bitch is almost dead >turns wolf, kills me in a close fight >memory hole that she was only close to death because I ulted her and committed into an all-in>bitch about her ult being overpowered
>carries are all boosted trash that play op solo win heroes >silver is good against carries and in 1v1 situations >boosted shitters cry about silver beating them 1v1 instead of getting good and playing with the teamHmm
STOP TALKING ABOUT SILVER EVERY FUCKING THREAD
truly epic hero
>>572841417also the fact that you cant even kill him cuz he just runs away and if you run away he runs to you xd
>>572841379Silver is literally /ourhero/
>>572841417>warden>im playing the worst m1 in the game and i heckin lost how could this happen!!!!
>>572841417because the item dealt more damage than the easier to stack afterburn?
I like this gamer rig in the hideout
When will Yoshi start perma banning smurfsWho the fuck thought letting level 0 accounts into the playtest was a good ideaAscendant feels like pure hell since all the smurfs end up here and wreck lobbies apart.
>>572842226Never, that would make the playerbase tank even faster than it already is.
>>572841745>m1way to out yourself seeker bro
>>572842226they pledged to deal with smurfs years ago in dota 2 and it's still a problem, they aren't going away.
>>572842360Okay but it will help in the long runIf you let smurfs go rampant they will demoralise the fuck out of the playerbase leading to people quittingNo one likes getting fisted by some E5 fag who wants to curb stomp because he had a bad game on his main account>>572842667You can make it go away easy just with moneyWant to play ranked? Pay 20 bucks/euro/whateverFuck I'd pay 60 if it meant never having to go against some russian aborted fag who's only saving grace is that he has 3k hours.
i just found out the little AoE circle around bebop when hes ulting does only 50% of the normal hyperbeam damage, as if this ult wasn't bad enough
yep i cant stand this nigger anymore
>>572840796How to fix Celeste:1. Remove tattoos2. Add braces
>Graves has a sister
YESSS GO GUN IVY YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS DONT BUY KNOCKDOWN FOR THE SEVEN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT BUY DISARMING HEX DONT BUY ANY COUNTER ITEMS JUST GO GUN IVY YESSS DO IT YESSSSS THROW MY GAMEEEEEEE
>>572842863>pay moneyok? people would gladly pay 20 dollars for a smurf not everyone lives in the 3rd world like you
im playing graves right now
>>572842863I agree that it will help in the long run, but Deadlock has rapidly become complete and total shit after the March 6 patch, I do not expect it to recover with the utterly deranged changes being made to the game, like Shiv getting his third rework already, or Warden being nerfed into dogshit, or Sinclair still being a meme, or half the cast having bad models while the last batch of 6 characters having mostly up to date ones.
>>572842863people pay for the 5 dollar steam limited account fee, new phone numbers, and someone to play the game for 50 hours to smurf in dota
>>572842897Shiv is genuinely an abomination of character design. He has literally everything with zero downsides. Big HP pool, built-in tankiness with that stupidly OP bloodletting passive, spammable knives that do absurd damage, the stupid dash and his broken as fuck ult. Just picking Shiv makes it so that the entire enemy team loses 30% max HP.
>>572843538just had 4 people chasing him with literally 1 hp for 1 minute and not like he was juking over rooftops just never died for some reason i dont know if its radiant regen or some other shit¨make his spells cost life like geist
how do you differentiate between smurfs and somebody having the game of their life?
>>572843805lvl 0 steam account <50 games 70% wr
>>572843891I have friends with nothing but dota on their account though, level 0.
>>572843065>>572843389I'm not saying it would stop all of it, but a higher price of entry would filter a lot of the subhuman russians doing this and they've been the consistent main culprit in my games>>572843321I have faith they will unfuck shit but yeah that March patch was the worst shit ever, and we're still feeling it lmao>Pocket still completely untouched after getting 100% antiheal on his ult for no reason
>>572836462OP heroes are more likely to get ahead, and counterbuying is a heavier hit to your economy when you're behind. damage spikes are huge in the midgame and delaying them to drop 3200 souls on a T3 or T4 counter item means you're doing no damage if you're already behindalso if you're playing some pro tourneyfag match then you can reasonably expect every enemy on a team to be a fairly equal threat, so you wouldn't really want to be weaker against the other five players on the enemy team either>>572839025silver can let go of the rope and use her leap 2 and walljump to stick on you and still get some damage outi've killed people from half health trying to cheese with ropes in wolf form. it's a knowledge check
>>572817308that would also work, because it would stop them for rewarding already steamrolling playersi can agree to this, but i'd rather see a vote for it in official servers, much like the scramble vote
we need race based matchmaking
>>572842125Deadlock should make some fake filter to mimic that PC.
>>572842125I think it's stupid
>>572844018you think seven gets bitches?
>>572842125How long until some faggot makes a youtube video title I 3D PRINTED THE COMPUTER FROM DEADLOCK
>>572844279>>572844414It even has a weegie thing (i dont know how its spelled) as a mouse
>>572844018No you don't get it, it's fine that Pocket is broken as fuck in the hands of a halfway competent player because his winrate is low when played by retards in every rank!>>572843670Yeah his passive should be removed, it's literally a better version of Abrams's passive, on top of having an active portion that lets him double dip. His mobility is way too high for someone that does so much damage and is so hard to kill.Radiant Regen is busted on him since every tick of a dagger's bleed refreshes the health regen and it gives him regen for every unique target hit, and his knives bounce, so he just regenerates so much.
>>572843538I do not know why they are so obsessed with keeping bloodlettingIt has been unbalancable for 2 years. I'd almost just say put it on a different character because it clearly doesn't fit shiv
you guys are really pathetic.>>>/v/742493217>>>/v/742496550>>>/v/742497672
>>572815280you're absolutely niggerwrongrandom crits REWARD these pubstomping sweaty demos and soldier mains you're talking about, because they scale with the damage you're doing>bobby.basketball.2010no, bobby basketball 2010 will not be encouraged by his own success because he will get shut down by the same pubstompers you're talking about, because they get random crits up their own assesyou know about the scaling, yet you only acknowledge it when it suits your argument, it seems>random crits encourage aggressivenessyou know what else encourages aggressiveness?core fucking mechanics of tf2random crits are redundant, in that regard>prevents stalematesfucking HELL NO, what are you smoking?in fact, random crits enable more stalematesmore often than not, even if this hypothetical bobby basketball does push the cart to the last point along with his team, the last push will get shut down by a fucking random crit, and the game will go on for 5, maybe 10 more minutes>the worst random crit whiners are comptards (like dane) or aforementioned soldier and demo mains who shit their pants over losing their killstreaks when farming F2Psno, i main spy and i consider myself the biggest whiner about random crits, because of course i would be, i barely get any fucking benefit from themi'd be saying the same shit if i were to main medic, sniper or engineer>they are sweaty as fuckengaging with the core mechanics is le bad or something?do you want all matches to be whacky randomcrits fests with friendly pootises or something?first and foremost, you're doing a disservice to tf2's core mechanics if you actually like random crits, because they contribute to shutting them downit's like being stunlocked by dynamo's refreshed black hole, except random crits you can't even predict - they're random
>"nerf" shiv but give him some other buffs>revert "nerfs" in 24 hours>dont revert buffs>character is even more broken than beforehow fucking stupid can this dev team be
>>572844973Crits also disproportionately favor the two most busted classes in the game, Soldier and Demo. They're a bad game mechanic.>>572845019>>572844778The game has strictly gotten worse since the March 6 patch and the last batch of 6 heroes, who were all absurdly powercrept besides Venator, so then they decided to start arbitrarily powercreeping random characters in the cast too.Removing the last 12 characters added (except maybe Venator) would be a net improvement to the game.
>>572845184>who were all absurdly powercrept besides VenatorOpinion disregardedVenator is the strongest by far of the last 6 batch and its not even close
jog my memory, what did the march 6th patch change thats got this autist convinced the game is ruined forever?
>>572845505Incorrect, Apollo, Celeste, Silver, and Graves were all busted as fuck, but they nerfed the fuck out of all of them. Venator was mostly balanced on release and only got nerfs until the recent retarded HP rescaling stuff.
>>572845743That patch was the beginning of the end, releasing a bunch of broken and badly designed characters that resulted in all the retarded changes that followed.
Great matchmaking lol.
how it feels to play deadlock
>retard shitter teamates refuse to defend by walker to make use of resists>retard shitter teamates teamfighting by urn even though it's not an objective worth teamfighting>retard shitter teamates doing everything in their power to throw>retard shitter teamates curious as to why I'm AFKing after witnessing all of thisThere needs to be a better way to leave games that dont punish the user.I dont deserve these bots on my team
>>572846452This is how some porn artists draw women.
>>572846529They need to add a surrender option, the game is too volatile and decided far too much by whichever team gets the better team comp. Comebacks are less and less feasible with every update too.
>>572846649they wont add it because it'll show how bad their matchmaking is when 90% of games are surrendered
>I refuse to defend by walker to make use of resists>I teamfight by urn even though its not an objective worth teamfighting>im doing everything in my power to throw>I notice a weak spirit giving up earlyThere needs to be worse ways to leave games that punish the userI deserve all these humans on my team
i report you if you have over 30k soul dif and say good game how is it a good game? faggot nigger
>>572846213there were no hero releases in marchare you mad about the update that buffed a bunch of old characters who got left behind in the power creep?
>>572845019dont you mean otherway around? his wr% has fallen in this patch in e+
>>572846924>shiv winrate matteringi dont even have to look to know that thats only because he got a massive increase in pick rate
>>572846882The same way a rapist says rape is sex. It was good for him.
>>572846741Defending walkers doesn't work since they die instantly to any of the m1ggers that do spirit damage (all of them besides warden and venator)>>572846703Yeah that's a fair point. Matchmaking has made the game genuinely unplayable.
>>572846882way to be a bad sport, you know you'll get banned for that right?
>>572844973more random crits have far less impact for the pubstompers because they're already winning hard anyway, they're effectively overkill that doesn't change the outcome of any fight, whereas on the people getting stomped they have a massive impact in actually giving them a chance to play the game>he will get shut down by the same pubstompers you're talking abouthe already is, getting a random crit lets him do other things besides dying nonstop>core fucking mechanics of tf2random crits are a core mechanic of tf2>prevents stalematesrandom crits are better at breaking a stalemate than any other game mechanic besides ubers, getting a crucial pick or wiping a team because of a good crit is what keeps games dynamic in pubs>engaging with the core mechanics is le bad or something?you tell me, since you're the one shitting your pants over a core mechanic
>>572846902I'm talking about the Old Gods New Blood update and all the garbage that followed, the march 6 patch was just even worse.
what was meant by this?
>>572847450it isn't a core mechanic, it's an added band-aid to fix a non-existing issuei'm not responding to the rest of that, as i had a huge cortisol spike reading what you just wrotehave a good day
>ctrl+f "march">7 resultsMarch schizo is back again...
>>572847747I accept your concession
>Mobility >Not even top 5 for movement in the game>Base 3 stamina>One actual movement ability>No special gravity or better air control>Best build right now is gun/riposte botWhat the fuck does Yoshi want this character to do?
>>572848597be a gun carry who can 1v1 any hero in the game once he has superior duration and max riposte
>>572845019Playtest bro its a playtest :^)
whatever happened to the EOMM mega post I was promised?
>>57284924990% of my games in the past two weeks have literally just been the most blatant cases of EOMM I've ever encountered in 23 years of playing online games. They're just handing me niggers who all go 0-6 in lane and then force fights in enemy jungle for the next 20-30 minutes. it literally feels scripted. these have to be some experimental type of bots that yoshit the nigger cunt thinks he can just pass off as 'real' players or the matchmakings literally just rigged to rape you when you get above 50% winrate and go on any winstreaks at all
>>572844801
Haze players consistently getting mad at my shadow weave venator ultra m1gger rape build
>>572847279what does it even matter if some specific one trick is good at shiv when winrates show the average power of the hero relative to every other hero. if you go through every single top shiv players statlocker profiles you can see shiv is their lowest wr% hero of their top three heros. this actually tells you everything you need to know and disproves your idea of shiv being op
>be me>browing /vg/>look at clock>7:56>holy fucking shit I'm gonna be late for work>start running out>miss bus>OH FUCK>maybe I can still make it if I run really fast>take off my hat so it won't fall off>start running fast like sonic>remember my name is infernus>953 dead>10424 injuried>869 billion in propriety damage
>>572848202Anytime I see this I assume the person posting it got blown the fuck out.
>>572850570>blah blah blah winrateanalytic slop for faggots and nerdswe are in a "that boy can hoop" era
>>572841417Bro, your dispel magic?
>>572850658Kek, you see that shit?
>>572850658how many souls did u get tho
>>572847279and this only applies to shiv somehow despite every other hero that was buffed and saw a rise in pickrate also saw an increase in winrate
>>572844523> if you go through every single top shiv players statlocker profiles you can see shiv is their lowest wr% hero of their top three herowhat ranking are you talking about because i checked the statlocker rankings for shiv and the one-trick rankings and this was only true for 11 out of 40 players
>>572851195valve leaderboards
>get silver>winthat easy
>graphically tell a Celeste player to shred his throat with shards of glass for being a massive faggot>every game since then has the most braindead chimp weak-minded retards that have melties on mic at the slightest provocationOh shitThey put me on the sped matchmaking didn't they?
>>572851663>lowest impact in the entire gameS+++ilver is so strong...
>>572851663why do shiv players die so much isn't their thing to buy 50 gorillion green items early?
>>572851663>silverfags itt are alch 2
>>572851195now that i looked at statlockers leaderboards i can see that its not actually the case that its always third best out of the top three heros but either third best or second best. literally only cosmetical had shiv as his top hero by wr%. like where is the magical guy that can pilot shiv to his fullest potential making shiv op? every guy that is good at shiv performs better with some other hero except cosmetical
Doesn't Metro smurf? How the hell isn't he banned yet?
>>572852012Yep that's the kind of people that think silver isn't worthless dogshit
>>572851663i don't get it man, i do 16k on rem when I'm playing like shit and whiffing my pillowhow do silver and haze only do 16k
>>572852186>tp
>>572852063the majority of deadlock streamers in high ranks have smurfs.
>>572851852ORE WA
>>572852032what do you mean by perform better? because if its strictly winrate you're going to be looking at heroes with a fraction of the games played but only a minute increase in winrate comparatively
Drifter still doesn't feel that good to play
>>572853487thats because his laning phase is complete and utter dogshit
>get 24 kills as yamato>lane partner 19 kills>doesn't fucking matter because my teamates did everything in their power to throw the game.For example, I told the team 3 separate times that we need to split push yellow and blue walker.>"Ok, sure sounds good"As soon as we get any resistance at blue walker, our team on yellow abandon their push and come blue.Now imagine that but two more fucking times.I keep getting apes for teamates that prioritize kills over objectives as if that will be factored into elo at the end of the day or some shit.I didnt even mean to get 24 fucking kills but I got them trying to do objectives
>>572852620Why aren't any of them banned?
Slork next update
>>572853656>mogged by rem>mogged by paige>mogged by pocket (it will be his only kill(s) all match he will die at least 10 times)>mogged by doorman>mogged by minions drifter really can't catch a break in lane stage, huh?
These shitters belong to a different species of hominids, no way these people are sentient, thinking beings.
why is there a deadlock seethe thread on /v/ like 2-3 times a day?
>>572854697me at the bottom
>>572854720TFtendies eternal cope
>>572854720there is?
>1 win away from ascendant >get a drifter who rushes tankbuster>that lane feeds and we losegosh darnit!
>>572855008it's not going to get better in ascendantit actually may get worse
>>572854976>>>/v/742509273
Used to be Ascendant 3 now Im phantom 4. Ever since they added the king of the hill objective my winrate took a nose dive.What are the broken meta pick so I can spam and climb back?
>>572855483this is one oddly specific fetish
The only """"""counter""""""" item an abrams has to buy is a single debuff reducer (1600 souls), now with his passive he has 50% permanent debuff resistance so decay and spirit burn last like 4 seconds
>>572854720/v/ hates video games. Most of them are gachafags and nogaems that just go there to seethe endlessly or talk about whatever twitterpost triggered them that day.
>>572846902>buffed a bunch of old characters who got left behindYeah well mine weren't. Mine were "reworked"
>>572855760Counterpoint: Shiv existsAt least abrams is a slow fucking chud.
Whats the counter to baldingniggerlico?>inb4 just stay away from herDoesn't work when she goes cat form > leaping slash > insta death from behind
>>572856120holy shit is that brandon rogers????
>>572849567what does this have to do with EOMM?
I like how if you're on a loss streak the game will keep sending you the worst players imagineable and expect you to carry0/10 apollo who loses lane? Ult seven who never ults? Sorry bud 1 v 11 or your rank shit itselfMy bad for wanting to try new characters yoshi, the MM exists only for one tricks to climb.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>572854048Because the "Smurfing" option in the report page is just a placebo for people who got stomped and want to report someone.People don't even get banned for spamming nigger or going 0/20 I doubt someone ever got banned for smurfing in this game.
>>572846703>>572846649now i'm curious, does anyone know what percentage of games in mobas that do have surrenders are surrendered? like what percentage of league games are surrendered?
>be doorman>exist>unfathomable amounts of seetheEven when I lose I win.
>>572857132In league it depends on the region, like korea surrenders pretty often since they play more tempo so if you die a few times its overEU is a more competitive solo region and it has the lowest ff rate from what I understand.
>>572857132it's like 1/4.
>>572857327that makes sense, iirc in korea pc cafes (is that what they're called? idk, those places where you can basically rent a pc setup) are really popular and since those are more time sensitive i can see surrenders being a lot more common>>572857356if that's true that sounds really bad lmao even if it's normaladmittedly this is my knee jerk reaction but games bad enough to be worth surrendering should not be a quarter of games
>>572857791It's because the genre is designed for snowballing to be the norm, so if a team is losing they will not want to bother trying to make a comeback. Deadlock already has basically no comeback mechanics, only snowball mechanics, so a surrender would only improve the game.
>>572857791>games bad enough to be worth surrendering should not be a quarter of gamesYou have to factor in that a lot of people playing are massive bitches and simply having the surrender option will make them use it as soon as things aren't going their way even if the game is still perfectly winnable. Also, people will surrender literally just because they got an invite from their friends.
>add le surrender optionYou know you can just abandon right?These unwinnable games are not so common that you will start getting time penalties
Who am I banning since this game keeps updating and making faggot characters busted.
>>572856120Back to get revenge on biological women
>>572858517seven and holliday
>>572858517One ban isn't enough. Right now you have to ban Shiv, Holliday, Kelvin, Ivy, and Victor.
>>572856435they're forced matches. that's literally what EOMM is all about. ENGAGEMENT matches.
>press queue>matchmaking engages>WOWWWWWW
>>572858517Rem
>>572840796How to fix celeste:1. Remove boots2. Add brightly colored pink and blue toenail polish
>>572858993>queue for match>matchmaker finds you a match>why the FUCK ARE THEY FORCING ME TO PLAY?
>>572859492Anon, he's talking about forced wins/losses which is exactly how Deadlock matchmaking is designed.
>>572858608kek
>>572858836>ban Shivbut anon I'm playing Shiv
>>572859321>>572859492>tranime poster doesn't even know what EOMM is
can the resident eommfrens/eommschizos explain the matches where i go 1/9/5 and still win despite accomplishing dick all because winning while playing poorly and getting carried doesn't feel good to me
>>572859478the mod that gives her hooves does that
>>572859989EOMM involves both forced wins and forced losses. If you are on a losing streak, it matches you with people on win streaks in the hopes that they carry you, which will make you continue playing the game.
>50% presence>Never first pick/banBros...She's still S+++?
>>572859603so true. if only the matchmaker wasn't griefing me I wouldn't be stuck in seeker.those eternus players are so lucky they got lucky streaks in the eomm algorithm.
>>572860204About 20% of matches are ones where your input actually matters. 40% are forced losses and 40% are free wins.I have a 62% winrate and I am climbing through Phantom rapidly.
>>572860102The fuck is that next to Bepop
The further up in rank I go the fewer moba players I seeRetards are just running down a lane over and over again
Why do mobas never make a TDM/free-for-all mode where you can just build whatever schizo build you want? Street Brawl doesnt count because its RNG and still has the moba element.
>>572860339THANOS
>>572860346ever since urn changes game has turned into microslop patch after microslop patch so all the tourists are getting boosted big time
One of the most infuriating games I had the displeasure of playing
>>572860889>better buy rico with no gun damage or on hit items
>>572860339Mina He
>>572861239I bought it straight up just to clear waves faster and the fact they were all bunched up.I was the support of the team not the carry smartass
>>572860538I want to curbstomp this little faggot so badly
>>572860889>102k souls>26k damageactual retard
>>572861316what the fuck is tesla and all those spirit items for? don't have kudzu charges? don't have cleave with lightning?
>>572860889>Playing easymode ivy>complaininghuh??
>>572861316>im the heckin support bro that's why i didn't buy knockdown even though their seven is a retard without unstop
>>572861410kys
Shiv has got to be broken I've never gotten so many killstreaks and mvps. averaging 16 kills a game with 80% winrate
>>572860889>calling yourself a support>ricochet with no on-hit items or healing reduction>lightning scroll>disarming hex>no knockdown>no cursed reliconly thing that's being supported is your mush brain from your thick retard skull
>>572850570Aggregate winrate mixes together everyone who picks a hero, from total beginners to experts. Two things wreck this number. First, matchmaking is built to push everyone toward a fifty percent winrate over time, no matter how strong a hero is, so the system is actively erasing the signal you're trying to read. Second, hard heroes get picked by a lot of players who haven't mastered them yet, so their aggregate winrate mostly measures how hard the hero is to learn, not how strong it is once mastered. A powerful but tricky hero can look weak on paper simply because most people playing it are still bad at it.Looking at the best players fixes this. If you take the top ten players on a hero's leaderboard, you're already looking at people who've shown real mastery, not average performance. Then picking the highest MMR player among that top ten adds another layer of confidence, because MMR is built from hundreds of games across everything they play, so it's a much steadier number than any one hero's small sample size. You end up with someone who is both proven on the specific hero and proven as a strong player overall.This isn't a perfect number either. With patches changing the game regularly, no one racks up a huge sample on one hero in one game state, so there's some noise from small sample sizes. But that tradeoff is worth it. The alternative, aggregate winrate, has a much bigger problem baked in: it's not really measuring the hero at all, it's measuring the average skill level of everyone who happens to pick it. A small amount of sample noise from a handful of elite games is a better price to pay than a number that's fundamentally measuring the wrong thing.In short, top player MMR gets you closer to a hero's real ceiling, while aggregate winrate mostly tells you how popular and how difficult a hero is.
>>572860889vyper has more assist than THETHER ivydrifter is equal in assistlmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>572860889And not a single curse was bought on your team. Or cleanse magic. Actually what the fuck even are these builds? Where in shitlow are you? Also it's kinda your team's fault for not ending the game sooner when the enemy has 2 hypercarries and 2 m1 carries.
>>572860889>Least amount of souls and dmgDrifter and Celeste carried your worthless ass
>>572862120Because shiv is the only true spirit hero who is allowed to deal damage, not a single other spirit hero deals damage past the 20 minute mark>inb4 people name m1ggers like celeste and infernus thinking they are spirit heroes and not just m1ggers who deal spirit damage
>>572862507I really hate how Icefrog has designed all these 'spirit' characters to just be m1ggers that deal hybrid damage, so you aren't allowed to itemize against any of them except maybe Infernus because his gun does shit damage even with a ton of gun items.
>>572862815his first design
>5 back to back games of Abrams with the least damageOkay this hero isn't for meI'm never picking this shit again
List of tanks in the game>Abrams>bebop>>>>
>>572863221>bebopinitiatebro...list of tanks>abrams>warden>billy>dynamo>kelvin>geist>shiv>mo
>>572863221Kelvin>buh he heelerLol
>>572860294So true, you must be a very skilled player to buck the mathematic rigor of the matchmaking that you yourself believe
>>572863221There's an argument for Viscous, but it's not something you really itemize for
>>572863221>none of these heroes are tanky!!>no I've never bought more than one resist item, why do you ask?
>>572863636If you reach your appropriate skill level you will obviously win half your matches and lose half, because everyone is the same skill level. It's not EOMM it's how mmr as a skill level abstraction is supposed to work
>>572862965What is this item?>>572863636UH yeah anon, that's how it works, even with EOMM if you're better than most people in that rank you will climb, EOMM kicks in regardless of you going on a win or loss streak and will attempt to give you someone who will lose you the game or win you the game.
>>572864098EOMM truthers also believe Yoshi sends elo assassins to nuke their games and make them unwinnable, which if true makes it impossible to get outside the programmed EOMM winrate because its supremely easy to make a game unwinnable from a mechanical standpoint
>>572864098revenant's brooch dota item that makes right clicks crit for magic damage
>>572864697>>572864697
>>572864516Wow that's a retarded idea.>>572864472Nah, good players can simply play so well that even the forced loss EOMM tax matches where you get someone with a like 30% winrate don't effect their win rate too much.
