YER DED Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>572752231
Buff Silver
they should have given melee shiv a chance
Sex with Venator
Silver needs buffs.
>yoshi called this a minor patchThen what's the big patch?
>>572864925The Shiv community throwing a massive tanty and getting the rework reverted in less than 48 hours is the most bearish thing I've seen about this game so far. Devs should not reward that kind of behavior, it sets an insanely bad precedent. I also think less of every single Shiv player now, because of it.
>>572865013Turning this game into Ricochet 2
>>572865036>>572864925He got massive buffs regardless so Shiv mains got what they wanted, their broken-ass character is even more broken.
I am the...the oyman
>>572865036Wait they reverted the Shiv changes because Shiv players were crying about it? Time to find a cult of deadlock players who'll complain to get Silver buffed.
I HATE HOLLIDAY I HATE HOLLIDAY I HATE HOLLIDAY
>>572865036After what they've done to doorman after the reddit rage are you really surprised? This game is exclusively balanced based off of vibes and right now the narrative is that some heroes are allowed to be strong while others are not. This is literally why "influencers" are cancer that must be purged.
>>572865324Heres a better version
>>572865530Doorman is unironically broken, but kidnap isn't why he's broken. One day Doorman players will break free from the Joechuck Mind Control and realize express shot headhunter off of the cart is infinitely more consistent than trying to get some hapless dipshit carted under walker
>>572865439>holds W and wins>celeste>calicoWhat did you mean by this?
>calico get magic carpet >She is now unkillable and rapes my whole team
>>572865013>matchmaking/ranked update in ~3 weeks>"item focused update" after that has had time to settle>then the main, large content focused updatewe are waiting until september nigga
>>572865886Celeste has so much mobility that they can play like a complete retard and get away with it. Calico has a free e-shift ult that heals and resets all her abilities, so she can also play like a complete retard.
>>572866165Both of them have to do combos of varying complexity to do anything to you. I'm Shiv's greatest hater too but I dont think he wins for pressing W at you in the same way someone like Victor or Infernus or ult Warden does
>>572865036>>572864925melee shiv had no upside it was ugly, doesnt even matter if it was good it completely broke his playstyle and made his builds some awful hybrid garbage that didnt fit
>Spirit billy is a thing nowI fucking hate Yoshi
>>572866325You are mcginnis with a bucket 2 dash, 2 stamina and a all-in single disengage button that doesn't even work against someone like calico or celese.
>>572866325>celeste or calico>any amount of complexityceleste is designed like a League of Legends character, she has one single way to use her abilitiesdash in - > light eater - > use shield - > spam gigantic AoE daggers - > spam auto aim M1 -> leave
>>572866410His playstyle needs to be broken, "Guy who is insanely tanky, mobile, and damaging in hallways" is not an archetype the devs have to respect!
>>572866589he's not tanky. buy some antiheal his passive cant clear if he's antihealed. they even moved his improved deferral talent to t3 so nobody gets it until late any more, so he's even easier to kill now. Y
>>572866110Imagine if the item update is the next three-lane style change and they uproot everything they've done with items and revert to copying dota again.
>>572866721He's tanky in hallways because radiant regen activates off every person in the fight, which isnt something the devs have to give any hero in particular
How is graves in phantom+?
>>572866849radiant regen isn't a "tank" item, not every character has a dedicated "delay death until my regen kicks in" button
>>572866721>his passive cant clear if he's antihealedShiv downplayers just making shit up to deflect from how obnoxious the kit is. Sorry, dashslop is some League of Legends type design and needs to be put in the garbage and Shiv is the dashsloppiest hero in the game by a country mile>>572866951Bad because shes just a stat check hero and phantom players start to not let you farm into relevance
Whats better>Staying in lane, farming minions and camps, pushing objectives when I canor>Heading towards a fight if its close. Joining in on death balls when everyone decides to fight
>>572867037You faggots disgust me frankly, your boy is getting reworked you won't get to build pure greens + radiant and become unkillable while doing insane damage in the state mandated close quarters fights at midboss and patron.
>>572864942Careful Silver.
>>572867209anon, i was agreeing with youalso nta but whatever ig, salt collected.
>>572867168Changes every match, use your fucking brain in the match instead of trying to flowchart this shit
>>572867168Spam mokrill and do nothing but farm
>~58% winrate on dynamo>negative effect on rank>~51% winrate on mcginnis>very positive effect on ranki have no idea how any of this shit works
>>572867168After like the 15-20 minute mark, every single fight has the potential to be the last fight in the game where it's remotely even, so you have to be able to show up
>>572867710Thank you for being the only helpful response
>>572867482This works in every elo btw.
>>572866849you fucking baboon i just told you to buy antiheal, it prevents him from healing and clearing from his passivestop whining there are so many anti heal sources. Decay 50%, spirit burn 70%. Crippling 35%, healbane 35%. Enjoy
>>572867887>White woman in a new york subway simulator
>>572867047Shiv: Bloodletting is now affected by healing modifiershttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-21-2026-update.120256/retardo
>>572867942Must be fantastic to live in an elo where unstoppable and dispel don't exist
>>572868172crippling has no cooldown, healbane has no cooldown, you can buy more than one on a team so dispel doesnt work
>>572868294>just get your teammate to buy something or rape your build counterbuying the shiv broThis is too high a coordination tax on pubs, same as victor
>get hyperlined by a fed haze>escape anyways somehowi can't tell if my movement was good or the haze was dogshit
>>572867697It's supposed to compare your performance to others in your main rankI'm at sub-50% WR with dogshit heroes like Silver and they're all green arrowed, just because most people do even worse.
>>572868426You can't counterbuy Shiv since he has no weaknesses.
>>572865036Shivniggers are the only ones that get this treatment, it feels like. Character channels have melties over EVERY change that isn't a straight buff, but I've never seen the devs just hotfix out a significant character change within a day like that.
>>572869052Tell that to Mr. Shiv Downplayer ITT saying you can just grab antiheal to kill Shiv>>572869143The Silver community could still pull it off, but it's looking dimmer each day
>>572866951Pretty bad but playable unlike in eternus.
>>572869242>>572869242The worst part is that Shiv got straight up buffs from this retarded change, like his ult going back to being an utterly deranged 'The entire enemy team loses roughly 30% of their max hp' ability.
>>572866721This little weasel implies antiheal is how you stop Shiv from healing when it's actually slowing hex, which shuts off most of his kit Apollo and Calico style
BRUH SHIV IS SO BROKEN NOW THATS WHY HIS WINRATE WENT DOWN FROM THE LAST WEEK
>>572870505pickrate went from 45% to 70% (lol)
>>572870505>>572862246
Who is the greatest deadlock player of all time?
>>572870627>>572870675if shiv was broken, it wouldn't matter that a lot of new people are picking him up because a broken character is one you can do well with even if you're bad and exceptionally with if you're good, which is exactly what has happened to drifter who was slumming it up in the same general winrate bracket as shiv until getting gigabuffed
>>572870979>the average player is shit at shivthat's what the post says
>>572870979You misunderstand, he went from 45% pickrate to 70% in eternus 6. The very best players are trying extremely hard to get him every game.
>>572870979Average players are bad at shiv because they are bad with everyone. In the hands of someone slightly competent he is monstrously overpowered.
>>572871197>>572871250but the average player isn't bad with drifter, who has the 2nd highest pickrate in the game but a much higher winrate?
>>572870979>drifter is a little weak right now>well, let's give him some buffs>should we really do it on the same patch where we put old urn back into the game and also lower health pools universally?>yes obviouslythese devs are just so bad at their jobs
>>572871330>so dense that he can't understand different characters require different sets of abilities and degrees of involvementmouthbreathing mongoloid
>>572871212>eternus 6. The very best playersyou mean the guys that can't even beat joechuck kidnap doorman and got him turned into bellman?
>>572871445Yeah the average shiv downplayer is just competent enough to lie and play Shiv, but too stupid to understand statistics.
>>572871445if a character is hard enough to play the average retard can't do well with him, he's not broken. he's just "a good character"you're the one that said average players are "bad at everyone" so obviously they should be bad at drifter too, but they're not because drifter is actually broken, unlike shiv. hope this helps
>>572871483I don't think it was about 'beating' that style of play, it was just that Doorman is not fun to play against at all.>>572871368Yeah I mean the game has been getting worse every since the last 6 heroes were added, and then we had the March 6th patch, but even before that the last 6 heroes added were all really obnoxious.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>572871687>an unpopular set of skills justifies extreme power levelssure, every 10% pickrate char should be 60% winratewhat a tragedy to share the threat with retards like this.
>>572871770>yeah man when I was raging at you in all chat because I died due to refusing to buy any counter items I was actually not owned I just didn't enjoy fighting you, see kidnap can only kill 1-2 people at a time outside of extreme situations so in an e6 match should effectively make the game 5v6 but I actually don't enjoy having an easy win
>having problems with shivJust spam mokrill
>brainlet input
>>572872037>an unpopular set of skills shiv has had a high pickrate literally since he came out, even when he was at the tail end of almost a year of straight nerfs people were still picking him over most characters, so obviously he doesn't have an "unpopular set of skills"again YOU said the average player is bad at every character, then why is drifters winrate not on shivs level or worse? why is it way better?
>>572872283>reading comprehension>doesn't control for pickrate
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>>5728725095
Haven't played this or any shooter in like six months, cheats just finally got to me man. I can't justify wasting my time with any of these games man. Valva never doing anything about it. God damnit.
>>572872423>doesn't control for pickratedrifter has the 2nd highest pickrate in the game >>572870979, the argument of "so many people are picking him and the average player sucks, tanking the winrate of an otherwise strong character" should naturally apply to drifter if it applies to shiv, but it doesn't. why is that?
>>572872509>Skip...
>>572872550don't make me repeat myself >>572871445
>>572872548The cheats you complain about now will be bundled in Valve's Deadlock+ subscription for 5 dollars a monthGenuine skill issue
>>572864925Melee Shiv is hypothetically interesting but it massively fucked with his ability to be a Tank because Melee lifesteal is just not as good, its main synergy is also mainly in expensive items which isn't good on a character who doesn't farm very well, so it was overall a fat nerf that it was good to be reversed
>>572870675>>572862246That's just fucking stupid.The matchmaking pushing towards 50% is NOT erasing the signal. If something strongly deviates from 50% despite the matchmaking's best efforts to keep it there, it's busted one way or another.The second point is valid, but the solution is retarded. You are replacing one skill bias (harder heroes get lower win rates) with another that is way worse (individual player skill strongly impacting hero performance). What if Human Aimbot with 100% headshot accuracy decides to play hero X as much as possible, but it's not a character attractive to others because he looks gay as fuck? He will massively skew the results with such a tiny sample size of "one best player each". This is obviously an extreme example but this heavily boosts the impact of higher skill players randomly deciding to master specific heroes and remove others from their rosters. Nevermind the fact that meta picks will see vastly more play overall than the actual dogshit heroes that lose you games, downsizing the already tiny sample sizes even further. At this point the ones that truly suck will offer completely useless data, possibly even showing positive win rates because they happened to luck out into getting carried in 8 out of 15 games recorded.
Literally the only thing that can save deadlock is if Return Fire returns 100% of bullet AND spirit damage received back as unavoidable instant damage instead of you shooting a bullet back and it hitting a random wall or box and then doing nothing
>>572873115best case scenario in this situation is to control by pickrate until a certain point that averages between different heroes (filtering for lack of skill on otherwise popular characters and testing for integrity on easy to learn characters)
>>572873406...also don't some of the stat sites already do this? never bothered to find out
>>572870040As a shiv spammer slowing hex does nothing to me, I just pop eshift and have debuff reducer. Was never really an m2 movement guy so the change of s-hex stopping that doesnt affect me either. Fact is shiv is a thinking mans hero and since he can choose when he goes in and you cant means he will have the favorable initiation every time, slowing hex will only cuck shit shivs. It's a good item for 1600 though, but just saying antiheal is better (and applies to everyone not just shiv!)
bebop is probably the worst hero in the game right now
>>572868403is...is there a hidden QoS tattoo?
>>572872548Bradley dragon is that you, not everyone cheats
How do I play support Mina?
>>572868403my beautiful equine wife
>vinny and gt on my teamwe lost
https://files.catbox.moe/lj7ll2.mp4
>>572874767>VinnySPEEEEN
>>572873671ive seen so many bebops soloing games this week
>>572875854must be nice being seeker
This gave me one rank up lol.
>>572874767nvm we won
>Be vindicta>They buy knockdown>Buy Dispel and Indomitable >Every team fight we win taunt them with "Hows it feel to know you bought an item specifically for me, and its just wasting away in a slot not doing anything because I just counter it twice"Honestly feels good to be superior
>>572876467post statlocker
>pop off really hard>get like 20+ kills>rape enemy team at every possible moment>bulldoze towers>almost solo carry>MVP goes to 0/10/17 suport sissy
>>572877810post it then. i refuse to believe this
>>572877664the fuck will statlocker tell you?>>572876467its because for like 3-4 games the game purposefully put you with low ranks so you got basically no Elo.AKA if your Arcanist V, the game put you with Alchemist 3's and under.If your playing like 1-2 ranks within your own plus or minus its always 1 rank up per win.If the game puts you with lower ranks it's 1 rank down per win.It's a retarded system because you genuinely have no way of knowing if the game put you with low ranks or high ranks until it's over.
Am i supposed to be offended when statlocker calls me oracle 4 while im phantom 5
>enemy team gets drifter and shiv>realise we lost from minute 0 cause they can just RNG roll the best two heroes in their damage type
I find playing carry so hard, i'm trying Venator out but you get out of position in a teamfight for 1 second and they just instantly kill you. I'm used to playing support/tank characters that aren't immedlately focused down, but then if i try playing more careful as a carry i just deal no damage
awoo :3
Even after the nerfs billy is so fucking stupid, he can just run trough the entire enemy team, deal one million damage while being unkillable, murder someone and still leave while not even being at a soul lead
>>572879335rank?
Had to remove two of my nails because I hit a wall. Time to play Rem to add up to the pain meter (watching my team mates being retarded)
>>572862465those feet are not of age
>>57287948210 ranks above your peak
>>572879606you're blueberry II?
>>572867482>pick mo and krill>everyone just shoots you and you die
>>572879693Mayonese 4
>>572879750Just get bullet resistance
>>572874829>ai artwork
>>572879119have you tried buying and using vampiric burst?
>>572879606>Unwissender
>>572879606my condolences for being g*rman
>>572879119>Carry>VenatorLMAO
>every match today has had a shiv despite my ban
>>572879606UNWISSENDER CHADSWW@FUCK ORACLEFUCK PHANTOMFUCK ASCENDANTFUCK ETERNUSUNWISSENDER IS WHERE ITS AT
I'm not complaining since I'm stomping now but why did I suddenly jump from Emissary 1 to Ritualist 5?
is Drifter the new braindead nigger hero? he's melting me through metal skin lmao
>>572879119Venator is unfortunately a balanced character so that makes him worthless
>>572880143>massively buff an already strong heroare they retarded?
>>572880240Drifter has always been a braindead character to play, the difference is if he is overpowered or not on a numerical level, and he is right now.
>doors>can actually be counterplayed>nerfed into uselessness>hotel guest>zero counterplay, arguably the most cancerous part of his kit>repeatedly buffedI don't understand
>>572880731How do you counter a door? Do you put a lock on it?
>>572880959you can dispel the cart throwing you into it (unless it's broken again)you supposedly counter hotel guest too but if the movement autists at night shift still fail it sometimes who am I to get it right
>>572881479wheres the counter at the hotel? all i see is a hallway
>>572880731>zero counterplay to hotel guestThe humble Indomitable
>>572881698you counter it resetting and you being put there again in 13 seconds
>>572881718>slowing hexs you because +1 braincell .. enjoy your stay!
>>572881847that doesnt proc indom-1 braincell for you
How the FUCK do you win with Ivy bros?
>>572880731>doors can be counterplayeddelusional faggot>hotelit's a tool that amplifies shit positioning on your part, if you get hotel'd alone in an alleyway and emerge back to 6 enemies and 0 allies that's kinda your problemthe parkour is easy, just walljump off of right side and diagonal airdash towards the door, then wantle slide if your ass is slow, and if your ass is extra slow you might need to use 2 stam
>>572881915damn outtedback to playing other games while i wait for real patch with new heroes
>>572881948>nah bro it's super easy just counter the point and click spell with [20 paragraphs of movement tech]Slit your throat
>>572880959>valve adds Locksmith to the game to counter Doorman meta in pro play at the international 6
>>572881795zero chance you can set up a counter in 13 seconds>Making a counter takes 2 to 4 weeks total from your initial measurement. The actual take is 1-2 hours, fabrication in the item shop takes 7-14 business days, and physical installation of proper guides takes 1 day.
>>572882087Movement tech is actually one of the worst parts of Deadlock, I hope they remove almost all of it. Mantling over stuff is fine, but all the stupid stuff like corner/edgeboosting needs to be removed, or at least made less retarded to perform.
>>572881943how do you get that many games on that many heroes
>>572882321Wall jumping is not hard to execute tho, which is all you need to get out of the hotel california
>>572882321edge boosting is easycorner boosting is bullshit
>>572882087>3 meters of cast rangeohic, the character that punishes shit positioning makes people with shit positioning mad
>>572882321Counterpoint, edgeboosting is really fun.
>>572882529>>572882321corner boosting isn't really applicable outside of like 2 heroes and 2 specific spots under buff bridges and you also don't really need itedgeboosting takes looking away from the wall and pressing space, so you are the retard here
>>572882321they should unironically remove sprinting from characters who have insane get aways already.Holliday does NOT need a fucking sprint if that retard can get 4 (FOUR) jump pads that let her travel at mach-fuck around the map
>>572882754>just buy knockdown!>she dashes down, gets stunned for 0.2s>places another jumppad and leaves the scene>just buy slowing hex!>she uses one of the already existing jumppads and just strafes till it runs outamazing char
>>572882321Enduring Speed is so strong it makes me laugh it's 1600 cost
>>572882940I genuinely dont know how people have a problem with Vindicta's flight when shes a huge slow moving target if you look up.Holliday is just fucking ignorant dude, and to top it off her jump pads also damage you if she lands near you.Amazing character design an unhittable faggot who throws nukes in your face for 500 damage
Holliday has way too much air control to be having 5 jump pads
>>572864697shiv is pretty good again i am kinda sad that i can't play him in e6 lobbies though everyone is banning him i might start smurfing again
>>572883101Yeah it's basically a requirement on most characters at this point to keep up with the stupid movement mechanics.
>>572883234because of damage fall-off, she'll most likely deal more damage to you than you do back if you're just shooting, and people want to play with their e-girlfriends so they'll never swap and let a hero that can do something to her on her lane, at least she's not thaaaat strong, she's just a lane bully
Buff graves gun dps why does it tickle compared to like warden or haze
why the FUCK does holliday get 6 jump pads yoshi
>>572881698The counter is playing Ivy and going stone form as you come out
>>572881698forgive the mess, the baroness is mid-renovation
>>572883640as a vindicta main shes useless up close and has no effective CC to escape at all. It's as simple as just stand under her and she dies because she still has to follow lane layout and EVERYONE is faster than she is when she flies so chasing her down if she goes over a rooftop is piss easy.Meanwhile escaping her is also piss easy because you just hide in a building
>>572881943just play gun n igga and m1 niggas to death and fly away if they come to cheese u
>>572882529i keep forgetting which one is which because i feel like each one could be called either since "edge" and "corner" could arguably be synonymous
>>572881698That one was good
>>572883547>pretty good againhe has never been not goodice frog must be a giga faggot with a crush on that dumb munkey
>people whine about Holliday who requires aimbot level aim and rocketjump map movement techs to be at the level of any other hero>also falls off after minute 10>I press 1 as a farmed Viscous and the entire enemy team loses half their HP
>>572884241okay but like... 7 jump pads though? does she really need all that?
>>572884241>also falls off after minute 10In what way does 5x 1k barrels and 1k headshots with an insane ability to rotate fall off?
>warden infernus wraith haze seven still not nerfedUninstalled.
>>572884241I can tell what rank you are if you think Holliday is useless bro.
>>572883861Because she's supposed to be a summoner archetype bro, why would her gun be good? Oops we just nerfed her summon damage 40% teehee
>>572882351autism>>572884087That didn't work either, only time I've won is with support or kudzu aids spam.
>>572884397>1k barrel>in reality you get half of that if you can spare 30k souls of nothing but pure spirit 0 survivability itemsPlease stop being a ragebait consooming sheep
>have a shitty balanced game>update the balance numbers>its even shitterMind you these are supposed to be world class developers.I am taking a break i guess until next "minor"(gay) update
>>572884241>and rocketjump map movement techsi'm gonna be so honest all you really need to know is basic air strafing and you will do fine with bounce pads
What's a good Mirage build? The ones on the deathy list all have a bunch of thumbs down so not sure I should use those
>>572884689bro 500 damage barrels and getting 5 of the fucking things is insane.You can deal 2,500 damage to someone by yourself just by existing, and I got curious so I tested it, you could probably do way more if you specifically built for it. But just building shit like Tankbuster and Mercurial let me deal like 525 damage with the ability to go heavy into gun and escape shit too.Not to mention her barrels are AOE and dont even require you to directly hit them to DO that damage either.She realistically could solo a shiv or an abrams, and then drag them into her team if she starts to lose or jump pad to escape and fuck off.it's insane
>>572884105They're not but I just remember it as a Greenland Iceland situationcorner boosting is the edge if a surface and edge boosting is the corner of a wall>>572884241>rocketjump map movement techsAir strafing?There is no fucking tech with her you put the pad down and get an aids amount of air control.That being said she's probably fine in terms of balance
>match ends>McGinnis (losing team): Abrams is a fucking nigger>Abrams: used & abusedwho was in the wrong here?
>>572884715>"world class developers">lets their old games rot for years except for dota for some reason>still can't make an anti cheat worth shitnobody should be praising these animals
>>572885004Bluey for stepping out of line, Ixians need to know their place.
>>572884715>no survivabilityYou barely need any greens with that much mobility.
>>572884241>requires aimbot leveljust build fire rate and keep shooting like a retarded chimpyoure bound to get a headshot eventually
>>572881943build titanic mag+tesla and make your bullets apply every debuff under the sun via tesla+on hit procs. add healing nova + tether + healing tempo so your actual carry never dies and rack up 30+ assists while never going over 30k damage.
>>572884872You can probably get more damage from spirit gain from leveling up, but if you can run a build like this in practice without getting punished extremely hard for it, you're most likely in a nigger skill bracket anyway. I can build pure spirit echo shard Viscous or Gheist and have even more burst damage that takes 1/10th of skill and effort to execute and nobody bats an eye.>>572885394>build fire rate and neglect spirit>do 200 spirit damage in late game and it goes on cd
>>572885403I do that and we still lose, I'll keep at it though eventually I'll drop low enough I'll get a win.
>>572885527Man I legit forgot she wasn't updated yet since I've had the holiday model update mod for so long. How do niggas play her with that ugly placeholder gun?
how do you get out of alchemist/arcanist rank? i tried limiting my pool characters to 3 to master them. most games i play okay but some are dogshit.
>>572884241post rank (and hand)
>>572885910Phantom VI
>>572885805Queue 3 m1ggers. You don't want to put the carry role in the hands of fate. Games in Alch/Arcanist last forever, if all your m1ggers are braindead and at least one of theirs isn't you're done for.
>>572885527uh... bro?the other items are there to show you can still make a well rounded build and STILL get 500 a barrel
>>572886612I wanna also say that 510 is NOT max damage im doing.Every barrel does 672 with tankbuster which is fucking insane dude
>>572886576alright nigga which m1ggers are good to climb out of this shit rank?
Is mokrill the most powerful hero in the game?
>>572886729OH WAIT IT GETS BETTERWITH HER HEADSHOT ABILITY I CAN BUILD ESCALATING, HER BARRELS CAN TAKE AWAY 1,150 HP PER HIT
I really hope they don't nerf Mina, she is easily the most fun hero right now to terrorize lobbies with.
>>572887027by the way, her jump pad also stuns.Which means you can effectively jump in, stun the tank OR the dps, barrel to instakill and jump away.im gonna try it in a lobby cause im curious i'll report back my findings
>>572887072trve
>>572887027?Why would a crackshot every 3 seconds be good for proccing escalating? Explain, Anon. Oh, and her headshot ability deals gun damage, so it doesn't even proc escalating exposure.
>>572886813Literally any?Wraith and Mirage have get out of jail free cardsInfernus isn't an instant bailout but it has the added benefit of baiting kills
do you guys take it as a badge of honor when people start buying items to counter you or just solo ulti you?the amount of times i've had Mina solo ulti me in team fights is funny as fuck
>>572886612>The number was stuck on 481 on my end no matter how many spirit items I put on thereHuh. Must be a UI thing then. I don't know. It's still not such a big deal imo because the barrels are not as easy to use as other spammable nukes. The hero is probably the highest skill ceiling hero in the game, it's only logical if she is a terror in the top tier. There's no reason a fucking Abrams for example should be able to do the same. This reminds me of Earth Spirit in Dota 2, a brutally difficult hero that punished a single misplay with a loss that kept getting nerfed deep into the bowels of hell for years because of a 50.000000001% winrate in the top tier.
>>572887362>playing gun talon>mina tries to solo ult>just take it like a man and outdps her with a fucking bow and arrow>mina dies before her ult is finished5 minutes later mina tries the exact same shit and dies while solo ulting
>>572886813Seven >> Wraith > Infernus
>>572886813Wraith is basically an auto-win when the enemy doesn't have the tools to shut her down
>>572884202last patch he was pretty underwhelming compared to the cast
>>572887391The number is stuck because you reached the investment cap and the items didn't have passive spirit power bonus of their own. Item investments cap at 28k. Beyond that point you don't get anything extra from simply buying items. If you want to see the number go up past that point you have to buy items that specifically have "+5 spirit power" bonus in them like counterspell, decay, mystic shot, witchmail, enchanter, etc
>>572887334okay so I figured i tout.It does proc escalating but you have to hit them with a barrel first.Also it reduces its cooldown everytime you hit a character in the head.So you can jump in, stun, barrel, and start building escalating off that barrel.Barrel doesnt have to be a direct hit either to start proccing escalating.
>>572884202Can you blame him?
>>572884202he was pretty bad for a bit there last patch, but now he's hitler. Every game 15 kills or more lmao
>>572887861>barrel, which does spirit damage, procs escalatingwaow no wayhownew
>>572888012look bro, i barely know how this game works.Im just reporting my findings.I hit with barrel and escalating starts proccing off the headshot only.Which means if I can land 1 barrel on them I can start proccing escalating exposure on whoever got hit, so if I hit 3 people I can proc it on 3 people and get a mini nuke on 3 people.
ONE MORE BODY FOR THE PILE
>>572887945vindicta x shiv is so hot i thank mcmugen everyday for this ship
>>572888197>I hit with barrel and escalating starts proccing off the headshot only.crackshot does gun damagecrackshot can never in any circumstance increase escalating exposure ticksdo you have mystic shot? that would be why shooting your gun increases exposure, because mystic shot deals spirit damagebarrels proc exposure because it deals spirit damagethat's how the item worksonly spirit damage increases tickscrackshot scales with spirit power, but deals gun damageany spirit damage from any item or ability increases exposure (unless the item/ability explicitly states otherwise, so decay/affliction)
>>572888469heres the build bro, try it yourselfland a barrel and start clicking heads when every ability is fully maxed.It DOES proc escalating exposure.I swear im not crazy go do it bro. Either I just found some insane tech OR something is proccing it when I land a headshot
>>572872509
>>572885805Farm more, fight less.
>>572888861update: its NOT crackshot that procs escalating!Something ELSE procs it because I dont even have crackshot maxxed and upon headshot it STILL builds escalating exposure.
>>572888861>>572888979Read what mercurial magnum does. If you don't get it, remove every other item except merc mag
>>572888861Brother you have mercurial magnum.
>>572888979>using 'maxxed' casuallyI'd mock you if I didn't do this IRL like a turboautist.
>>572889060>>572889028well I did say I dont know how to play this game lmao
>>5728725093, it's balanced.
>>572888861>Thread is mostly newfrensStay
>mirage gets magic carpet>he goes flying around trying to sell people tech support
>>572889125you'd be surprised how many people don't know how abilities and items work even all the way up to phantom and probably beyondbut those people generally just pick a popular build and always l->r, never bothering to learn what any item actually doesso learning the items and interactions can give you an edge over a lot of players especially in shitlow, as long as it's not 99% of your playtime (i spend almost as much time fucking with builds than i do playing the actual game and past a certain point it has stopped doing any good for my improvement at the game)
Is wraith crazy weak early? Gun feels like a peashooter and cards tickle
>>572889689Yes but as soon as you get a singular 800S spirit item cards to ludicrous damage.
>>572889689she used to be way weaker, by far the weakest laner in the game. now she ranges from okay to one of the better m1 laners. cards giving heals made her pretty strong against pokers in lane. you could go extra charge + any green if you really struggle with her in lane
>ivy puts points into 3 early and you can never punish her in lane againHow is this fair
>>572890036It's not and she needs to be nerfed into the ground.
>>572890036bro counterspell bro just buy counterspell
Is drifter the most joker core character?
>>572890135Just buy counterspell at minute 5
>>572890036you cant say that youre going to piss off the ivyfags
>>572890036She needs it or something idk man. Character's been overtuned for the longest time.
>>572879884>doesn't match any known model and is signed by hand by a known artist
>want to play deadlock>dont want to get stuck in a losing game for 45 minutes because no surrender optionsuch is life...
>>572887335>>572887765>>572887775how do you build wraith? ricochet or tesla?
>>572892401this game desperately needs a surrender button and the fuckass insta-pauses gone
>>572892740ricochet for silencer+inhib combo
>teammates runs AWAY from MY seven ult while fighting for riftnice
>>572890036>ignore her and focus on the waves because she spent resources on a self save that can't be used offensively
>>572892816the pauses would be gone if it had a league or dota style lane thing.Pick the lane, and declare who your playing.but since it just throws shit at the wall you get a Celeste and a Paige in 1 lane, and a Seven and Vindicta in the other.
so... is the baroness a real place in new york or is doorman just larping?also why's his shit ass hotel ripped apart and stuff? dude prides himself on it yet his hotel is a shithole
>>572894137i think it's a hotel in Seattle where Valve is located
>>572894137It is a real building in-universe and in the in-game map. I don't know if it's a real place irl though.
>>572894137>also why's his shit ass hotel ripped apart and stuff?it's being renovated
>>572866325>you press 4>shiv just dashes into your face melees you and rapes you with his ult before you can cancel your 4 and box him out>will live and leave almost unscathed after 14 seconds of ulting his ass btw>doesn't hold w and winmcginnis really doesn't like characters who either do not give a shit about wall or can tank your entire ult like it's nothing while also killing youceleste is both
22% execute that gives him infinite scaling
is this the perfect mokrill build?
>>572895594>lightning scroll triggers during ultretard
>>572895594maybe if your gay
>>572895742No it triggers after the indomitable is activated
what lies do you tell yourself that convince you that spending time in this game is a good idea?
>>572896240>"I'm 31, surely my gaming fundamentals such as reaction speed, aim, and snap judgement can still improve."
the maker of bebop needs to be raped
>>572896656Drifter...
inhouse up F6G07
>>572894137the real hotel in Seattle had to tell people on reddit to stop spam reviewing their google maps with shitposts because it was fucking their business up
>>572888861okay SO after 5 games of this build I can say thisGetting going is VERY fucking slow.But once you buy Mercurial, Recharge, Tankbuster, and Cooldown you basically nuke everyone any teamfight.Your squishy as shit, but I was dealing 600 damage per barrel and didnt even get my Tier 4's yet.If you dont get focused you DECIMATE teamfights and your ulti is so good at picking off Shiv's and other tanks its insane.Now I see why she's played a lot in higher ranks dude shes insane. The amount of times I should have died and escaped with 50 HP is crazy
>>572888861>>572898375>escalating exposure>headhunter and crippling>titanic>merc mag>needs 56k souls to come onlinekeep cooking newfriend
>>572899017NTA but I got made fun of by you fags for making a Vindicta build that cost my like 25k souls...the FUCK do you want? a cheap build thats really good, or an expensive build thats also really goodMAKE UP YOUR MINDS
>>572899154an actually good build stays good throughout the whole match by getting upgraded or early items sold for later itemsno build is complete at 25k souls unless it's a shit build, and no build should take 50k souls to be impactful
>>572899154Also NTA, but a cheap build that doesn't take long to come online, yet easily scales into the late game once you can afford to buy one or two big items.A build consisting of entirely T2s is going to fall off hard, but a build that rushes fucking Ricochet gives up so much early pressure that it's throwing.
>>5728725094
>enhanced headhunter + enhanced haunting shot >enemy team:
Tankbuster is better than Snatch for drifter, it consistently deals 25-35% of Rend's total damage when built at the same timing and having more damage on Rend means you're more likely to just kill someone during the silence window before they're able to do anything
>>572900067>F+ tier item is better than F- tier itemCool story emissarygawd!
>>572900439I'm eternus 6 sorry ascendantgawd
I rarely remember a good players name but I will ALWAYS remember a bad players name.
Valve should add a fox to deadlock.
>>572899017the seeker mind struggles to comprehend characters who can clear waves fast and can do so uncontested can get expensive builds fasterIf a Holliday cant atleast get 2 or 3 level 4 items by the 40 minute mark even if they arent fed then they're throwing.Where as someone like Grey Talon or Shiv should prioritize longevity of their build because they cant clear waves as fast or effectively.Turns out, you can build whatever the fuck you want as long as you help the team win.Your build without selling items should be able to let you scale into late game and if you need to sell items to do so, its a bad build.I literally have no problem taking half my builds into late game, and the only time I sell items is when I know I a t-4 will objectively help in the late game situation. Otherwise I get like 1-3 tier 4's and let it ride.
>>572896240There is no lieThere's nothing in my lifeRather play deadlock
>>572896240I'm technically retired. I have all the time in the world.
The fact that anyone ever considered silver a threat in any way shape or form even pre nerf is crazy to me. Let me preface, I don't play silver, I will never play silver, I do not like her. Almost every item that directly deals with or counters a hero or a specific ability in their kit is quite expensive and not accessible in the early game, and it takes a while to get most of them in the mid game if you don't sacrifice a lot of your economy to rush it. Shit like decay and knockdown cost 3,200, simple as. You can work on countering anything silver could ever do to you as soon as you have 800 souls by buying rusted barrel, and once you have 1600 souls just grab suppressor to pretty much turn her ability to play the game off. 2400 souls to completely shut a character down and people genuinely considered this character a threat lol.
>>572901409>Where as someone like Grey Talon or Shiv should prioritize longevity of their build because they cant clear waves as fast or effectively.>he doesn't know
ava you are a queer
>>572901965pretty good lie
>>572902586you can retire with 5 bucks if you can live off it broretirement is just a meme to make it to 60 despite having wasted damn near 80% of your life
>>572902662sure, but the question was "what lies do you tell yourself to convince yourself that playing deadlock is a good idea" and you started mouthing off about how ooooooh I'm retired technically I can play all I wantsure you are little buddy :)
>>572867168If a gun character running Sacrifice, the former, if a spirit character running Trophy Collector, the latter
>>572872509Unironically needs an upgrade that deals % max health damage
>>572872509>called TANK buster>doesnt do extra spirit power based on HP?????
genuinely how tf do you win against krillnigger
>>572903534Shoot him in one of his two heads when he walks up to scorn
I think they should buff Dynamo againHe's not braindead enough
>>572903534antiheal
>>572902862I get disability from the VA
>>572903534Dynamo is a way better M&K honestly.I dont know why people play him, he's dogshit in just about every way.
>>572904298what branch?
>>572904298>reposting AI slop
>Use all my cards to get someone low>Lane partner dives their tower>Complains that I didn't help>Was shooting them with my gun the entire time it just didn't do any damage
>>572904298>aishitkys
>>572904440>>572905154cry about it nigger troons
>>572905307you're a stupid nigger bitchnever respond to my posts ever again you dumb nigger faggot nigger
>>572904319>Scorn an entire lane>iframe everything instead of just disarming>unconditional healing + move speed + % max HP heal>Combo except it affects everyone and deals massive damagefvck this reddit ass hero
>10 minutes in>enemy player already has 10 kills on the other lanethe fuck did yoshi break this patch all my games have been like this with someone going 30-1
>>572905575i will respond to whoever i want niggeriest nigger of all niggers
they should remove bans i wanna play shiv in e6
>>572905950* pisses in your mouth *take that nigger
>coolest character design>coolest lore>coolest voice lines>weakest character
>>572864925I agree they should've let it cook longer to see if it was cool or not.his win rate did drop by 3% but it was a small sample size, only 24 hours since the change so you could've accounted that to people adapting--or failing to adapt--and just rode it out for a week or so.
>>572906156wrong pic my bad here is the right one
>>572906232it wasnt about it being good or not it was shit to play
>>572906156he's so le weak
>>572906138* cums in your ass * take that faggot nigger
>>572865013surprise!
>>572906156Nice bait bro, not like he's 56% winrate now
Bros I thought tank buster was bad, wtf is this bullshit?
>>572867482>>572867887play makrill blyat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMb3byHXwjE
>>572906320>>572906391>muh winrate muh winrate!He gets BODIED by everything. >ccdead>outrangeddead>teamfightsdead>skirmishingdead>splitpushing dead>close quartersdeadHe's good at nothing.
>>572865725>express shot headhunter off of the cartI thought they nerfed headshot doorman into the ground.
>>572906672He gets free headshots, they would have to have nerfed the items
>>572906581>>572906581sorry you're bad at drifter phantombro
>>572906672they nerfed the crit multiplier of his gun. but it still does 200+ damage per headshot with 4.8k (and this is without headhunter)
>>572906581he gets stacks while dead so who cares if you die this isnt team death match you faggot
>>572906581buy debuff resist retardposition better retard
>>572907015>>572907278I accept your concession.
>>572907278wtf so few souls for such high kp.25 minute game?
>>57290743629
It should be genuinely impossible for a full spirit or full gun team to win against a team with good itemization
>doorman kidnaps me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NsVTJvJLo
>>572906581Buy trophy collector and counter items retard they nerfed souls from waves and objectives so trophy collector is unironically good now, just perma run it down and collect stacks, you'll snowball into a murder rapist.
>>572907498It's pretty hard to win as a full spirit without a shiv to shred for you. Gun just does too much damage and is really good at killing objectives so it will be viable. They can also split their damage for some reason with merc mag/toxic bullets
>>572907058Are we just making shit up now? What past time do you live in?
Total billy player death
>You can say anything you want in game and not get banned or muted in the current year>You have the ability to mod the game and mess around with the filesI love valve. I don't give a fuck.Can you host your own servers?
>>572907806>zero boonsAre we forgetting something, retard?
>>572907806>>572908735it's a whopping 130 damage at 9 boons wow
>>572906156>weakest character>the only character rewarded for playing like an absolute retard because you still get stacks even after you die
>>572907806>>572908735>>572909023Here's your 200+ without headhunter broIt would barely be 200 WITH headhunter lmao
>>572909180>>572865725Kek. Maybe yoshi will one day figure out what he wants to do with Doorman. Until then it's only joechuck clip farming.
>>572909338He still does a ton of damage with his bell and gun, you can play normal Doorman just fine.
>>572908592in 2024 before official eu lobbies people were creating eu lobbies so probably i assume it was improved somehow
>>572909110See >>572906581He gets assraped by everything.
>>572908592You can host private matches but they still use the valve servers, no true self-hosting.
Just played 3 wraith games in a row where a fed as fuck shiv came out of some other lane after laning phase, we hold out for 50 minutes and we're about to turn it around, then a retard gets caught doing fucking nothing in the jungle.
>Lose game>Post match stats>M1gger has 0 objective damage>My obj damage is 4.5k despite soloing walker and base guardiansI was Silver so of course whoever they sent to match me died but I was stuck in and died to people rotating.Any other character with the lead I had would be able to get the kill, take the objective, and get out before anyone else got there.
What if Holliday had a fat ass and lots of cleavage?
If i win i forget about in 10 minutes later, if i lose it makes me mad for hours
>>572910128She'd be married to Abrams.
I'm unironically a drooling mouth breatherWhat's the hero for me
>>572910545none every hero needs macro
>>572910545hazeinfernuswraithvenatorwardenvypersevenmirage
I am now pro surrender button, I shouldn't have to waste 30 minutes of my life because some fag died 50 times during the first 10 minutes
so who's the strongest character atm? shiv?
>>572910783>50 times>only 12 deathsmost well educated ff ethusiast.
>>572910545Billy for sure
>>572910873>>572910723
>>572910925Must be a league player
have you ever seen a graves player carry?
>>572911089very nice
>>572911578Yeah, me
>>572910783just go afk, there's no punishment for it if you move every now and then
>>572911578I don't think i have seen a Graves in 20 games
>barely see victor>when he shows up its on the enemy team>fugly bitch shiv always my lanematesigh
Reminder that no matter how much you refine your macro, your decisions, your positioning, none of that will make you a top player. Top players make plays. You need to get fed. You need to dominate your lane. Hunt them down and kill them. Doing well isn't enough, if you're not the reason your team won, you lost
>>572911578Yeah before they pinned the hero down and raped it bareback.
>>572912237every time I see somebody doing that to avoid the automated system I manually report them and tell the entire team what they're doing.
>>572913631and you won't get low prio if you only do it once every 10 games or so
imagine being so brown you've minmaxed the optimal way to ragequit and afk games without punishment down in your googoogaga peepee poopoo 2 cumlow games
>cheater on enemy team>reportbot them>cheater on my team>commend them and send friend request for boosting
>cheating wraith on enemy team>they lose anyway because they literally stand completely still while aimbotting and we just cc her
>play drifter>buy blood tribute + weighted every game>shrug off enemy cc while i run at them and rape them to death with le rend of half your hp + 3 second silencemmm... yeap
kelvin and paige are genuinely terrible
>>572914927>battle vest>brs>merc mag>tankbusterEternus 3-kun...
>dev's name is yoshi>adds an egg itembravo...
Why hasn't valve added something cool like an oni to deadlock?
>>572873950bradley dragon is LITERALLY homeless bro keep up
>>572914927blood tribute is way over tuned but is way underpurchased. and they just keep buffing it because they want people to buy it.
>brawlin' wiff da boys>our pocket has been bullying the enemy Sinclair all game >he leaves>everyone just kinda stops fighting>"he coming back?">"prolly not." >decide to have 1v1 duels in the midboss arena We actually lost thanks to the Drifter rolling insane carry items and farming stacks off the duels, lmao. Was a fun time though.
>>572881943dedicated ivy autist here. you're supposed to go web max stun ult kudzu in that order and just clump people up for your team and cc rape them. hex heroic aura nova web into like echo or scourge or something.
>>572915451Because it's only good for chasing people when you're at a soul or health advantage and at that point you would have killed them 80% of the time without the item anyway.
>>572914927>>572915451>buy blood tribute>check postmatch stats>0 healing because did like 8k self damage with btit's a really strong item but man i have no idea how to use it without just killing yourself with it
>see calico lane partner>immediately lane swap cause I know they're gonna be afk for 4 minutes straight expecting me to solo the lane and then randomly leave
>>572888263vinny is for victor
>>572915273all good drifter items, sorry you can't see the vision blindfriend
>>572911578Not on this patch. They obviously don't want her to be a carry character, she's supposed to be some kind of weird utility/damage hybrid thing. They giganerf her damage any time she's strong, that plus the CC and debuffs she has baked into her kit tells me the graves players who are just building her as a dedicated debuffer have the idea.
>>572915891Shes a completely automated hero, her numbers cant be good because she doesnt need to aim anything
Yeah bro you just hit start match and she just walks around shooting and using abilities for you so you can just watch youtube shorts until the match is overYou're definitely not exposing yourself as a retarded shitter right now for complaining about graves
>>572915273What do you build instead for spirit spike?
>>572915451>>572915595yeah it's a win more item and frenzy + weighted shots is just better, blood tribute is kinda ass
>>572915776wow impressive smurf stats where you played him in poop elo before you ranked up to your real mmr
>>572916443You are embarrassing yourself bro
>>572911578in games where no one buys ricochet, yeah. as soon as anyone buys ricochet it's over, though. as far as I can tell skullmaxxing is the last thing she has left, her range is piss distance and I've never been too inconvenienced by the ultbots
>>572915776So who's your real main, touristbro?
>>572916443>>572916713are you two of those retards who think arrows are ordered by most played to least played? because they're not
>>572916810I KNOW THEY'RE NOT YOU NIGGER THAT'S WHY I ASKED WHO HIS REAL MAIN WAS BECAUSE IVY COULD ALSO NOT BE HIS REAL MAINKILL YOURSELF
>>572916713>>572916886i don't really have a main i just play a few heroes for a week until i get bored of playing them and then play different ones but my most played heroes are abrams viscous and venator
THIS thing
>>572917008>abrams venatorAlright based fellow bligger.Chase those free wins, king.
>>572915557lol.>>572915595you're supposed to toggle it.>>572916348>just buy 10k worth of other items that don't do the same thing to replace it
>>572917587if i wasn't toggling it the self damage would be 40k+ not 8k
>>572913631It literally does nothing. I've afk'd a bunch of times, many of them with almost the entire lobby announcing they'd report me and i still have never even been to lowprio.
>do good in lane>they outfarm me when laning phase is over and destroy meHow do I keep my lead? I try to get waves, do boxes, do camps, but for some reason the enemy m1 carries always outfarm me no matter what character I play or how behind I made them
>>572917935check souls by source post-game graphs
>>572917935You're trying to get waves instead of getting waves, you're probably running around between lanes failing to make anything happen too much while they just sit in one lane farming camps near it the whole game.
>>572884241>requires aimbot level aim and rocketjump map movement techgood bait
>play calico>leave wraith to go do boxes>he starts to crash out, dies once and loses guardian>gets free farm for 15 minutes, 10k ahead of everybody else on the map>starts kicking enemy team in their grundle>I am a rape victim all game but it doesnt matter cuz carry got huge off my decision
>>572918475Deadlock was a mistake. Can't combine MOBA with fpsslop.
>queue alt character>no premutes>queue main>3-4 premutes on my team that go on to feed their asses outSIGH
>>572890036it's not supposed to be fair retard everything else about her laning phase fucking sucks dick
>>572911578(Impossible challenge) have you ever seen a Graves highlight vid that isn't just W + M1that might aswell have been a bot?
if you get weighted shots on haze i'm reporting youslowing bullets is ok though
>>572917935Download a replay and spectate them. Easiest way to understand how the enemy carry ends up ahead.
Actually fuck this patch I'm just doing joecuck doorman until a new patch drops
>>572890076>proceeds to post SSSeven with 60% winrate since day 1>meanwhile ivy is 50.5%
>>572908592>>You can say anything you want in game and not get banned or muted in the current yearThis isn't true at all. Literally all you have to do is crash out at 0-15 retards on a loss streak and you're done.
>>572910925>>572911221>dlg unironically defending 2 kill participation in 30 minutes on a fucking support
>>572914320>meanwhile in dota>"hehe sure glad we aryan chads don't surrender like league sissies!">dies once in lane>queues up a shadow amulet and afks in the treeline next to waves
>>572921118I have over 400 hours and have never been banned once despite going on semi-consistent melties on very particular retards on my team
>>572921306Yeah now wait until you hit eternus and you get 3 account buyers and you wind up flaming the three of them.
>>572920608not even joechuck is doing joechuck doorman>le 10% kill participation faec>le ascendant faec
>>572919040They need to just remove the debuff resistance from the item and replace it with gravity debuff like hex has so there's an actual reason to upgrade it. They need to remove the minus speed though it's retarded to have that on an item about slowing others. There is unhealthy amounts of debuff resistance in this game and I'd rather the item do something useful than be some retard stat stick about ignoring all debuffs/cc in the game while positioning like a complete retard and being unpunishable. -debuff resist items/abilities when
>>572919921>look at scoreboard>enemy carry is 10-0 in lane because the duo faggots on my team are always retarded
>>572922154Yep, that's usually the answer. Kills just walk into their lane while they're afk farming, and you're stuck pveing for the first 20 mins. Mobas suck or something.
>>572922237It's just hilarious how they absolutely demand swaps to the ideal lane for themselves and then wind up eating shit
>>572920610>meanwhile ivy is 50.5%
>>572922154>Enemy duo is absuing the most broken shit possible and ends with a 10 kill lane advantage>The duo on your team is 0/10 all while using the most OP heroes possibleFuck these faggots so much. give me solo only que yoshi.
signs the match is over>tranny begs for swap to "yuri lane"
>>572922705matchmaking slaps a dynamo and rem on the enemy team and your only "support" is a viscous
should you be able to do a retarded 360 spin during heavy melee? is that healthy for the game?
>enemy team gets rem and billy/victor duo>your team's antiheal items 30 minutes in: 1 (one) healbane
>>572922545sorry bro eternus doesn't count but also lower ranks don't count either because those are poop baby elo dont ask me how this is supposed to make sense
>>572922545Kelvin is comically OP, I have to assume the (((pros))) aren't using him until a big tourney is on or some shit to cash in on his bullshit.
>>572922545It's crazy how much lash's winrate went up from a couple of fairly minor buffs.
>>572923004blueberry amethyst acolyte-kun...
>>572922905>your only "support" is a viscousThis draft has a 50%+ winrate in pro games btw if you're losing with Viscous on your team it's your fault. Play around him better.
>>572923115yeah buddy the random guy on viscous in my lobby isn't lomein or whatever, he's building pure damage farming damage spamming 1 at chokepoints all game
>>572923115Not that guy you're retarded. The average visc is a 50/'50 agent who will build pure damage or gimmick melee shit.
>>572923191I don't know it sounds like he was making plays you weren't capitalising on. Maybe try using your mic next game.
>>572923301see you were making a sincere argument at first but unfortunately it was retarded so now you have to pretend you were trolling all along
>>572923365I accept your concession.
>>572923365No it sounds like you got upset I was making an insincere argument to begin with and only realised after the second post.
signs the match is over>Victory>Defeat
>>572922705>calico on my lane
>>572922970bro if someone actually fakes out a parry you literally just dodge the next one
>>572923520>someone buys tankbuster>my apollo goes spirit>my abrams buys orange items>my wraith buys egg>my bebop buys echo shart>my rem buys any damage spirit item or trophy collector>my mo has scorn off-cooldown for longer than 2 seconds in lane phase>enemy has any of victor/infernus/dynamo/billy while we dontinstant defeat
>>572923820Sorry bro I need fleetfoot melee charge shadow weave on abrams
>>572923820>>my rem buys any damage spirit item or trophy collectorI mean trophy collector healing booster guardian ward is pretty standard no? you just don't build it in lane.
>>572923670>dash jump clear away from a heavy melee>the game decides to give them the 20m range melee hitbox
Hey Iām kinda new but I wanted to make a tier list after a few hours of playing. How does it look so far? Any objections? Thoughts?
>>572924231Shiv used to say the nigger word all the time and that's the dark past everyone is alluding to, he would say it with his rage meter full.
recently started using statlocker instead of tracklock and holy shit i never realized that the matchmaker was so bad it that AVERAGES people into your rank instead of picking people near similar skills. this explains so much on how even at phantom you get players who literally don't understand how to kill creeps - they're literally emissary new playersi have literally never seen a game with such a shit tier rank system. at this point eomm in marvel rivals may even be better
>>572924231Billy is a poser so he wouldn't say it.Holiday is rural, ginnis doesn't care, mirage says it
>>572924374I mean at least in marvel rivals you can just 5 stack in this game you're forced to duo past eternus 3
>>572924446afaik i think you can only duo in eternity+ which is eternus in mr
>>572924374Yes half the art is figuring out if you're the bottom feeder or the highest rank in the lobby.If someone switches lane that means there is a duo on your team and the enemy team.God help you if you're trying out a new mystical chump and become designated high rank carry with a mouthbreather duo losing to the enemy high rank carry on their main
>>572924374>AVERAGES people into your rank instead of picking people near similar skillsThis is also why loss streaks feel so bad, once you lose two in a row it puts you into lower ranked matches but because it's averaging teams the other people on your team are usually lower ranked than the enemy one.
>>572924490yeah this seems pointless to me now, I was climbing from initiate to phantom with a 60% wr over the last 2 months but am stuck at phantom for 2 weeks with a 35% wr (rank doesn't go down though)i'll take a break for now and will come back when the matchmaking update is released
>>572865036now try being a graves player>on release>dont know to melee skulls>get her nerfed>is awful>oh wait guns kinda goo->nerfed>okay...now summoner is goo->nerfed>okay...now she sucks>summoner buffed again>hey now she's good aga->sorry you're nerfedI want to add that all of this was under five months oh but other characters stay broken for years or even get buffs lol
>>572924665>Graves players crawl out of the woodworksshush nigga be happy the devs are too retarded to remove her
>>572924716sorry that the character i like playing gets shafted anon I should just be quiet like a good little chud so that Wraith and Sevens can have their fun
>>572924815Correct
>>572924231zoomer humor has not progressed at all in the last decade
>>572865036The slice and dice change was retarded and not what they should have done to make the character weaker, buffing his ult to compensate was also stupid, and leaving the ult buffed after reverting slice and dice was unbelievably fucking dumb.
>>572924490>supposed to carry>but you're playing support character>auto loseSuch is life in valve games
>>572924374If I were to guess, itās probably to make sure people find games at a reasonable time instead of waiting for too long for perfectly even teams That being said, we still have a shitload of people playing, so it should be too bad. Wouldnāt a good solution give you two different matchmaking options? Like you pic between āEven teams (similar rank, slower cue)ā or āAveraged teams (faster cues, varied player ranks)ā. At least youād have the option to tough out the wait times instead of being thrown in and having a big game every time
>>572924490>>572924560>>572924914>game paused at the start of the matchcan't convince me this isn't niggers looking up the entire playerlist and coordinating their highest ranks into the lowest rank lane to go rape them to death
>>57292498490% of the time it's someone pausing to swap because they don't know the lane with party option exists
>>572924374The game is going to give one of the teams the resident feeder this is why there is ALWAYS ALWAYS someone going 0 and 5 during lane phase to win you have to do the work of two people or stick with that guy and pull him out of moronic situations as ivy or rescue beam anyone or something once you realise that you can climb
>>572925102https://streamable.com/6agr67this felt good
>>572877664>>572877981Lost one game and deranked so all of these games were for nothing lol.
>>572925479God's punishment for playing Celeste sorry anon. But nah that sucks, stop taking rank seriously I've started inting my rank on purpose with new heroes since ascendant is just smurf central what's even the fucking point.
>>572925102helping a feeder live won't win you games because they will never be able to carry, they'll just be alive longer
>>572924374this game fvcking blows
reminder: if you are a roamer/offcarry and have the SAME damage as your carry who was farming 50% of the game YOU are the dogshit player
>>572925871t. tankbuster statfaker
>>572925574fun fact eternus is account buyer/win trade central. people will literally just mysteriously go 0-14 and you're supposed to believe these matches are legitimately played by the top 0.5% of the playerbase. like they just couldn't help but go 0-14 or something.
>>572925871carry cope. you're just embarrassed your support matched your 40k damage done despite having full utility and heals. lol
if you have a sub 45% wr after 1k games please just quit you're literally ruining the game for other players
>If you're this>If you're thatJust play the game
>>572926017if you have a 50% wr after 1k games just quit. also if your kd is below 3.0 you're shit. I have played so many games and consistently every time I see some dipshit retard on my team they're both of those things. just quit.
>>572915595almost every character in the game is either able to lifesteal enough, has a built in heal, or just wants fortitude and/or a bunch of stuff with regen so they can justify blood tribute. it's a genuinely bullshit item after they removed it's healing penalty that gives you 4 stats for free + 3 high versions of some of the best stats in the game on a togglethe health drain also can't even kill you so you can just use it as a free movespeed to make those literally 1 hp escapes more possible
>>572920610thatsthejoke.jpg
Graves probably smells weird. Not bad. Just weird.
>>572915595if you think you're about to receive CC or a debuff then toggle it for the debuff resistance. toggle it when you're actively shooting someone. turn it off when you're reloading or don't have LOS.
Silver probably snores like a motherfucker
>>572926670>just good enough to get carried or contribute>wont shit up higher ranksI don't see the problem with 50%ers
>>572927573the problem is when you see them at eternus and can tell they were just boosted there and are hardstuck at eternus 1 or 2 and are basically clueless when not stacking.
>>742540178Dudes's a gaming CEO clearly.
>>572926593OK!>>572927627Oh 50%ers in eternus? Yeah fuck them, thought you meant coloured ranks.
>>572927798the problem is that you're playing a literal F tier character. I played like 16 games of rem and only won 4. he literally does nothing if his teams shit. and if his teams good you were going to win anyways.
>>572927884That's not me nigga...
me melee
>>572927979bring back gun Abrams
>>572927884retard
finally did it, yey. Started in Initiate 1.
>>572928193rem is the worst support in the game. somehow even more useless than paige.
please i need mmr i cant play iwth these dogshits every game
>>572928381>be literal top 20 ivy>only have 1 green arrowI don't understand this shit
What if Abrams was TRAPPED and BETRAYED in the Hyperbolic Baroness Chamber ?
HUGE DEADLOCK LEAKdynamo celeste abrams 60% winrate next patch
>>572928573AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>572928703WHY IS NO ONE DEFFFING LANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
>>572928623I don't know how this system works. Maybe it compares your stats vs people with the same amount of games as you? Here are my stats
there's always just some designated retard in eternus games it's insane.
>>572928792because retards look at the mini map and automatically go to the fight instead of looking 15 seconds into the future and realising a double wave is going to crush a single wave and collapse into your walker
>>572928703>leave game because my a and d buttons arent working>can't reconnectk thanks nigger valve i really appreciate it
this matchmaking is by far the absolute worst in the history of matchmaking gameswhy was i placed initiate 1 250 games ago but im playing with people who likely placed oracle and lose all their games
Lash is dishonest.>yeah bro stop paying attention to the lane and be looking up always to dodge him it's easy
>>572929041here's how>you solo queue>you're a clueless new player>you have a natural growth >system realises this and places you in the lowest ranks>other guy gets into the game with friends that already play>gets boosted in some unholy abomination matches which are comprised of 5 different rank tiers>game shoots them up to oracle 1 because it doesn't want smurfs raping new players>they proceed to just stay there being low impact unga bunga shitters that win 50% of their games by accident
>>572929078Gimmicky ass hero I have him banned
>>572929078his entire playstyle is deleted by a single tier 3, brother. parry when you hear the loud as fuck ground pound startup sound effect
>>572930000>just rush counterspell in lane broWasted quads.
>>572930215just rush sage's mask into a ring of repick and lock in ivy
>>572930215You're bitching about Lash in LANE??? he's an awful laner and has only a couple places to jump from.
>playing warden post-nerfsreported>playing graves post-nerfsreported>playing mina post-nerfsreported>silverreportedyou have to play drifter, shiv, seven, kelvin or ivy, or else your ass should uninstall the game until the meta favors your picks again
>>572930640Playing Graves at this point should be a reportable offense genuinely unironically sincerely
>in the middle of another artificial and forced 6 losing streak after winning 7 in a row>get rem, my strongest hero who at one point i had 3 mvp wins in a row on>lane blue with seven, he seems to do okay, he dies once but we kill the enemy lane 5 times>meanwhile both other lanes are getting destroyed feeding 0-10 before 10 minutes>sigh and decide once more it's not worth building support to support bad players>build gun and start going to town with kills>we still lose almost every teamfight, if team even bothers to show up, no one knows what celeste is up to>around 30 minutes in we only managed to kill one walker thanks to me securing a rift and pushing solo with the super minions>we are pushed into shrines>somehow we kill them off after they take midboss>we are 6v2, i ping to get the mid walker>rush there, 0-13 apollo joins me, where is everyone else?>fucking somehow its impossible to stop mcginnis and ivy, get caught by mcginnis wall, cant wall jump it and get out, we die hard>seven who was doing fuckall around spawn starts crying at me and having a mental breakdown>rem wtf r u doing>rem wht rank r u>omg rem u r so bad>hahahahahahahHahahHAa>i guess rem likes to lose>rem r u inititate 5?>"I'm probably higher ranked than you, retard">mute him>we lose maybe two minutes later>i am key player, 12-3, enemy team commends me>check statlocker>seven is seeker 3 but it says he played like an initiate>i'm arcanist and apparently played like oracle>stuck ranking down because the matchmaking is one of the most obviously unfair and broken ones ive seen in my life
i have 3 m1 dogs in my team, all hitting jungle, none of them pushing out sidelanes, none of them participating in rift, we're like 15% nw ahead and we lose the game because theyre jsut dogshit
>>572928381Build?
>>572927443Fucks like one too I bet
gunshit ruined deadlock
>>572931347Ew no she definitely reeks of old sweat, vomit and alcohol
Why are we shitting on Graves?
>>572931446what possesses someone to pick graves for street brawl?literally a mario party bullshit mode and in 100% of games some faggot picks graves and just bum rushes the tower for a free 2 roundswho would do this?the point of brawl is to have "fun"
i want to like this game so bad but the constant lose streaks just make me wanna uninstall and never fucking return
>>572931415I'm sure she's heard of a thing called showers even if you haven'tOnly thing she doesn't bother herself with is shaving
>>572931539the solo version of the street brawl stacks permapicking paige mcginnis and seven
>>572931298in the end im the only one that took objectives and i didnt see my m1s in a single teamfight they just hit some dogshit camp next to itINSANE
>can't clear creeps fast>takes ages to reload>can't gank without major advantage>can't really fight without the ult at all>ult can proc when the last enemy diedI love my useless fluffy wife so much bros
>>572931590Anon she canonically does not shower
>>572931681Where is this stated? For my own perusal and smell imagining
>>572931772Hey I don't make the rules or lore, she's really stinky
>>572931667I hate the furfag mode of shameI get the idea behind it but holy FUCK is it just completely impractical.
>>572931667Her hotness goes up in inverse proportion to her relative strength
>YOU are the only constant
>>572931823According to Rem her hair smells like Bourbon.
>>572931995So a really disgusting stench of alcohol and vomit, yes.
>>572931950>Anyatroon or foidcall it
>>572931667major buffs soon trust
>>572931298Contestinfg rift is throwing.
>>572932112I think if that horrid ratbird had meant that, he might have said itSilver smells wonderful until proven otherwise
Isn't losing a rift far worse than losing king of the hill urn?
>>572931667She's OP because I can't hold W in her wolf form and instantly kill her sorryExpect nerfs soon for the 0.1% of players that can barely get her to 50% winrate.
>>572932273Spy X Family enjoyer
>>572932649so troon, got it
>>572931308Emmm... Some random spirit-support build. Right now, I'm maxing 3. Other than that, just generic support items, with focus on 1 or 4 depending on enemy team.
>>572932649Oh a pedophile
>>572932724ups, I meant maxing 2.
its fucking overmatchmaking is consintently fucking me in thbee ass with people who are brain dead congrats youshi u finally made me lose it
Why is it always characters that this threads downplays (because they heard streamers say it) that terrorize my games?
WHY ARE PEOPLE LEAVINGG LANE AFTER RIFT HELLO WE GET FUCKIGN MEGA CREEPS U DUMB NIGGERS
>>572932810>>572932697Weird projection
>>572933072The entire enemy team will rotate to defend the walker and it only takes one hero with an aoe ability to clear the wave, you're throwing if you push after rift.
>>572933072the walker is already dead or they have a aoe circle goyslop ability that clears the troopers in 1 press anyway
>shiv player lanes for like 5 minutes>proceeds to walk into the enemy jungle on repeat for the next 20>ends the game 2-15SURELY THE NEXT TIME I ENTER JUNGLE I WILL SOLO THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM
I miss gun lash.
you can have broken ass heroes like shiv who do literally everything, broken damage broken survivability broken mobility, and they stay this way for MONTHSbut GOD FORBID a two stamina creep like graves gets to be half decent for once, you get endless whining and bitching on reddit and she gets nerfed to the groundi hate this community and that retarded dinosaur so much it's unreal
>>572933313They need to give her a normal gun and make it so you have to micro her summons with some sort of alt fire thing and everyone will shut up about the hero.
Why is anon saying that Graves is weak?Graves in my team never gets anything done and 0-15, but Graves in the enemy team consistently snowballs, carries 20-0, suddenly ambushes me around a corner with echo shard and I'm dead to 40 skulls from full hp to dead in less than 2 seconds. She's uncountersble if she gets even slightly ahead.
>''I'LL CUT THROUGH ALL OF YA!''*walk behind a 1 inch cardboard box**now immune to your ult*
>>572931885They could've at least made it sexy
You can see the other team bickering in their team chat when watching a replay and it's the funniest thing ever
>kill 3>say go mid>me and some cuck billy with 0 dmg go mid>i leave halfway thrtough bnecause no one is comiong and they're respawning>he stays and dies alone>rest of the team never shows up>almost 2v5 them>lose gameanother worthless game it was literally decided form the start when yoshi gave me 5 niggers who cant even take a guardian when choosing to afk the rift and solo push a lanelike fuck my ass i literally have the only objective dmg in the game
>>572933834I want a fluffball like this
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS NIGGER MATCHMAKINGHOW IS 1v6 OR LOSE EVEN A THING
>>572934061>no matter how high I get my rank this remains a problem
>>572933906>be ivy>have heroic aura>have healing nova>we claim the rift>we're all healthy>tell them to take walker with rift troopers>everyone fucks off and leaves to go jungle while we have rift troopers with double hp and damage amped by heroic aura>enemy team shows up with 2 people with wave clear and I'm forced to leavepeople don't realise rift -> walker is a free play yet. christ is it annoying.
>from alchemist 4 to seeker 5 all within a couple of gamesinitiate speedrun any%
>>572934156>hit high eternus>retards still exist and you're still at the mercy of at least having remotely human players so you get to have agency and not just get run over 6v1
XDDD ASFSDHNDFTGMKJYFGUJHLN.IKĆKOLPĆIOIULUKYTYGTEFRDXS
>>572934049fluffballs like that will shed an entire shipping container worth of fur in the summer, its not worth it
>>572934461lugna ner dig dennis
>>572934049damn, she is fat as fuck
>>572934461FUGG :DDDDD
mfs will say m1 carries need to get nerfed more but think infernus doing 2k with his passive is ok
yeah im just gonna take this moment of matchmaking niggering to trynew heroes until yoshi rrealizes im not the 1v6 hero he thinks i am
>>572934659anon............nigfernus is an m1 carry.......all he does is hold m1 in your direction............
>>572906156>>coolest character design>>coolest lore>>coolest voice linesask me how i know youre russianliterally only russians play this character
>finally can play some deadlock>first game has two russians yelling in voicechat and complaining about everythingI fucking hate EU. Give these cunts their own server so we can play in peace
>>572934836It's insane that RU isn't counted separately as its own region. NA and EU merge better than EU and RU. RU clashes with everyone and no one wants to play with them.
I have got to be at like 10 games in a row now with an enemy shiv dominating the entire lobbywhat the fuck is this shit
>>572933892there are times i hear some people on the other team arguing with each other because some of them will be using all chat, in those cases i ask if whoever they're arguing with is in team chat so i can look at the replay laterit's not always the case but when it is it's pretty funny to read someone crashing out at you
so I gotta wonder, does superior duration effect bridge buff duration
>>572934779an m1 like warden or vyper is incredibly straightforward where an m1 like wraith or infernus are harder to balance since a big chunk of their damage comes from their whole kit than just holding m1
>>572934956ukranians love playing with russians
https://files.catbox.moe/pkozyh.mp4
>>572934836>>572934956reminder to post about this on the official forums and @Yoshi
>>572931950they all died because you were afk farming the entire game leaving them permanently outnumbered
>>572934994>nerf dash>buff the fuck out of ult>revert dash changes>keep overtuned ultFUG :DDDD
>>572930640Warden is still good though? He's literally everything man.
>>572931539>>572931616And vic, infact I see vic way more than Seven in sb. I'm like the only dude that plays Ven in that mode it feels because I get him everytime if he's selected.
>>572935854idk i haven't played street brawl in months, it used to be seven but they probably gave him brawl specific nerfs
>>572935410Catbox is really slow today.
>comm muted>we kill 3 people standing on the bridge mid>go mid boss because i have an iq >100>no one comes mid>side lanes are already pushedyeeah ok guess were stuck in dogshit matchmaking for a whille
>>572936328https://x.com/xanesvg/status/2073156995251593314here
>>572936330damn ltieralyl just llost because of that tthey later took the mid boss :DD:DDDDD and my team let them with infernus ulti etc xDDDd
im tired boss
i gotta be in some low prio queuie because these people are so fucking dogshit i could slot them in with an initiate 5 friend and have more impact
>>572935527They should not have engaged in a fight if they weren't confident that they could win
No better feeling than hooking and interrupting an ulting lash/abrams out of the air
>>572935410what is it it's not opening for me and i'm not downloading it
>>572936443>>572936805
>>572936709yeah I can definitely tell why you keep losing
>>572936834thanks
>>572935410i'll give my opinion on this in about an hour or two depending on catbox
>>572928970>instead of looking 15 seconds into the future and realising a double wave is going to crush a single wave and collapse into your walkerwhy are most people incapable of doing this?
>>572933135>>572932649>>572931950tranny pedophile
not playing this game til there's a big new content or rework updateit's fun but not fun enough to justify wasting hours of my time with russian monkey teammates who only know how to bitch and lose
I don't understand how Drifter has become a monster when the buffs on paper don't look like muchHe's literally 1 v 11ing every lobby I see him in its absurd.
>>572937380any time you see someone doing something astoundingly retarded in a video game, it's astounding to you because it's so baseline. if people have absent family in their infancy they will literally grow into retarded people. kids need enrichment to develop mental skills. we don't teach millions of kids how to do complex mathematics because we expect them to use it in their day to day life. we teach them these things because it forces them to develop a skill that winds up crossing over into other things. but that development starts at birth. the next time you see your retarded team mate just forget there's a guy walking away with 2% HP and you're SCREAMING at the mic for him to chase just try and realise that he probably never had his parents play peek a boo with him. he literally lacks the perception to observe object permanence. there's also the question of intelligence. people who lack a decent mental stack struggle with multiple tasks. it becomes easy for them to turn their brain off and chase the team fights when there's a double wave crashing into opposite side walker. the right move is to make sure you don't get split pushed. but try teach that to someone who can barely track where his crosshair is. I can hop into bf6 and out maneuver entire squads and go 50-2 and I'm not even at the top of my game with aiming. but tracking things in my head and making decisions in a split second makes the difference. just remind yourself that this game is full of marvel rivals and overwatch players and it begins to make sense why they suck at objective play.
>>572937478Weird projection
>>572938148The rend buffs feel good and most heroes are squishier now sides the tanks + drifter, lash and venator so you snowball a lot more.
>>572938148it's more like>the designated forced 50 agent on your team feeds him a gorillion stacks by mid-late game forcing dumb fights solo and now he gets to rape you too
im playing with people who thijnk they kmnow what they're dfofing but they're literlaly nigger retards with no clue whatseoverthis fucking full spirit seven nigger not showing up to a single objective>i need to farm junglle>seven is very good at jungleas he's fuckign 2-7-5 no walkers taken on the map and everyone else is at the riftanytime he encounters another uhman he dies
>>572938749>pop ult before you have it maxed>lose game>just go max surge and shoot people with balls and stuns>rape everything in your path
>>572935527It's a 20 minute game and the Shiv already died 13 times(before ragequitting) lol.
I've been having a lot of fun chaining YER DEADs in this patch, which sadly means it will get hard nerfed in the next one back into a cuck ability that only serves to finish won fights.
just lost what i think was 6v6 witth rejuvs and none of them died either that or half of my team backed instead of tackign an objective with ithmmm i guess even when we win we lose its like this every time they still have a walker at 44 min i llove being slot gpapped
>>572939489>be ivy>secure 3 rejuv steals on the enemy team 1v4 by landing a web stun, parrying twice>my team finally show up and proceed to lose the fight with only 1 kill
>>572939489yep thats a loss my utl build seven dieslike a nigger
heres your archon teammates bro
do I need to put in the command citadel_region_override -1 command every time I open the game or is one time enough?
>>572939642I have thrown games before by getting into a team fight and thinking my infuser/unstoppable/metal skin ult was going to do fucking anything under heavy focus and I just melt anyway. I feel like pressing ult for anything other than backline zoning is a terrible mistake. you do more dps just running and gunning and you aren't a massive fucking target in the sky that everyone just shoots.
>>572939964what region is that even
Afk farm m1 niggers deserve the rope.
>>572940146The negative one
>>572940253oh I must be there because all my team mates give up in lane
>>572939964cant you just put it in the launch options?
your team mates this afternoon
Iām hard stuck archon. I keep getting to archon 6 then have an insane loss streak to em 6. On loop. Good thing is though Iām getting better so not all bad. However. I almost exclusively play venator. And one thing I noticed is my obj damage could be higher. But Iām afraid to push walkers because I have no escape. So if they rotate more than 1-2 people I just get ate up without vamp burst. Iām not even sure how to fix this issue since itās inherent to venator
>>572927332well she is white
>>572940932Yeah this is my issue with Venator also, even with warp stone and shotgun wall jumps, I feel like I can never push up too far without getting murdered instantly.
If a seven delivers the urn is it BM to shoot the souls to take half of it?He said to never do that again.
I shoot the souls fuck them niggas they aint my friends
>>572941137>>572940932It's basic macro to know when and when not to push a walker. If you cannot figure this one out you do not deserve to pass archon.
i dread to see the skincolor of the average mo&k picker
>>572940932Gotta kill them before pushing, I'd focus on winning lane + roaming + farming effiencey + calls
>echo shard paradox grenade >echo shard mirage tornado>echo shard ivy stompCan we just remove this stupid ass item from the game?
>>572940936t. streetshitter
>>572942635It is a traditional Dota item.
>>572942751I'm Chinese
>>572942913ok
i lost 5 games in a row and the matchmaker put me in an arcanist lobby insteady of high emissarythe 2 before that were ritualistwhat in the actual fuck yoshi can you match me with people my skill
>>572942982you lost 5 games in a row and think you should be high emissary?
>>572943490my rank is still emissary why shouldnt i be matched with emissary? arcanist is 2 full emdals below these people dont even go midboss its insane i cant type either so these dogs just run a round hititng boxes while half their team is dead for 70 sec
Fuck lany jannying, fuck farming, fuck pushing objectivesIf yoshi wont give me a team of actual people then im just going to start playing team death match
>>572943784Heard loud and clear, nerfing Silver in the next patch.
>>572943935THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR SHE WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED THIS TIME
>Go from Holliday spam to Kelvin spamI think I miss the barrel spamming retards
Hereās my most recent match and you can stat locker me if you want. Just looking to improve. I panic bought that armor because I had a 2k bag and mid boss was coming up.
>>572944194>lowest winrate in the game >still S+++ tier How does she do it?
averagejonas is a fucking retard it seems>carry him in lane, get him 2-0>he rushes trophy collector on drifter, roams, is sitting at 5k networth while I'm 9k on support ivy>proceeds to just die randomly solo all game
>wanted to try out melee shiv>already fucking revertedfuck you yoshit
>>572944724You need to do more damage, but this match largely seems to be a loss because of your teammates. I know it's a common story but they died too much. You also are a QoL user so you deserve the loss.
>>572944843She stumbled into the role, but now she rules through fearShe's got all the nigshifters utterly petrified of her and she abuses that knowledge to maintain her SSS++++ throne. She threatens them with things like "yeah go ahead, put me down one tier lower in your list bitch, watch what i'll do to your next fucking tournament match"And they obey
>>572944724>that paradoxhow do you teach these retards about investment spikes?
Why do I never see Abrams players buy spirit sap?>charge into heavy melee with spirit snatch>spirit sap after>enemy now has -55 spirit power and deals no damage>also has -21% spirit resist so you heal more from your aura
>>572915417are ixians not like an oni
>>572945892imagine the smell
>>572946308Mmmm, whiskey, bourbon, vodka, beer, ale and sex appeal
>>572942635it should sacrifice health when used
>>572946118it really just needs to be communicated better. The only way to find out about spikes naturally in-game is to mouse over an extremely tiny bar on the bottom left of your screen (won't happen) and then read a chart filled with numbers (won't happen)
>>572943935Can you please buff Shiv?My winrate with him is dogshit
is the entire EU proscene russians?
>>572947837Ša.
>>572946406i can fix her>>572947837nigga the EU playerbase is 95% russians
>>572947837i'm russian and i'm kind of ashamed of russian playersnot just in deadlock, but in video games in general
>see a venator trap>shoot it out of instinct>it's my team's trap>I'm venator
>all heroes have a line for Seven's ult>some pidors still like to ingore it and only use his gun and pew-pew pew like retards untill they drastically hit the wall at lvl 20 when they can't 1v1 anyone anymore
>>572940932tha's me but I've made it to oracle twice, now I'm empissary 5
>>572948079kek, anon
why are there like 10 different stun animations?for example>ivy stone form>getting parried>apollo riposteall of these inflict a different stun animation on someone
>>572948463There's only 4>short stun, stationary, your character just sort of staggers>short stun with knockback, where your character stumbles in a direction>long stun, your character falls to the ground and picks themselves back up>air stun, your character flails around like a retard
>>572948051Just know you're at least a little better than brazilians and filipinos.Worse than you are columbians, piss people of the planet, worst gamers alive.
>>572944724how do you play venator without recharging rush and spellslinger
>get stomped many times in a row>get sent down a whole rank >stomp a lobby as a support because enemies can't even move properlynormal mode is too easy, hard mode is too hard
thoughts?
>>572949145Not a good carry, very good annoyance.
>>572949145like a 2.5-3.5
>>572948835I doubt you've experienced lobbies full of russians and turks. Makes you actually want to murder someone.
>0-8 graves player on my team who sits at the urn deposit waiting for a teammate to drop it off so he can slurp up and share all the souls with themi genuinely hope this person dies irl
>graves playerI genuinely hope this person dies irl
>>572949145Depends who it's played by424134's McG is a 6 on that scale
Silver should have a hidden mechanic where it tracks her monthly cycle in real time and she transforms faster and is stronger in her werewolf form when shes ovulating.
>>572948051>i'm russian and i'm kind of ashamed of russian playerswhy?you guys dominate pro scenes
Where are the infernus nerfs? that nigger is spammed at every elo.
>>572948923Only use that into some comps. With rem and shiv and victor being spammed this build is cleaner for me. And the power spikes actually have value for how I play. Spellslinger recharge is too passive especially when you have a game like that and 3 people LITTERALLY do not exist and at this low an elo no one peels so you have to play for your shotgun hence the melee charge.
>>572949554but we're also cancer to play with and againstand we cheat a lot
>>572949652i dunno grenade literally cucks all healing and you can get inhib on top of that
>>572934836Decided to give it another chance and I just got a russian Doorman leaving the game after dying once in lane.
>>572942321Sure and with Venator it's mainly when not, compared to Wraith for example who can push aggressively thanks to her teleport, or Vyper with her stamina.
>vyper 1/11>celeste 2/5>victor 2/7>ivy 3/9Granted I wasn't much better at 2/8 but there's not much you can do against a 40k networth disadvantage 24 minutes in.How does one avoid teams full of one-tricks out of their main in shitlow?
nigger matchmaking nigger yoshi kill his family and rape his sister
>>572949497this post is so cringe it loops back around to based
I used to be anti draft until I got a streak of games where my team couldn't win simply because we didnt have the damage or scaling.My last game, our only real Carry was victor but because the enemy was loaded to the tits with CC options, he was useless.
>>572950485Koth made draft differences way worse, if you don't have enough circles you auto lose.
>>572950158>how do I avoid people doing the exact same thing as me
Who is the best lighting scroll abuser?
>>572951119chudginnis
>>572951119>>572951275sixseven too
>>572951119celeste if you pair it with vortex web
>>572951119Drifter
>>572951119situationally, I think sinclair.his ult is has a far lower cooldown and he gets options for how he wants to apply it.But obviously it all depends on who he matches against.
>>572948079Real as fuck..
What's the dumbass reason to make the urn runner not shown in map?
I do not like that the Orange color from Hidden King is very similar to the Orange color on gun items.
>>572949312You'd be amazed at how many russians force themselves onto NA servers then bitch you out for their poor performance on 400ping
>>572951938It's a mystery but it is very fun to run the urn on cooldown with Veil Walker.
Does it matter if I abandon once or twice a day? I see people frequently do it without a care and I'm losing my patience trying to 1v6 when my teammates are going 0-20.
I think the urn should tickle you in damage but slowly ramp up until it just murders you and add what it thinks you're worth to the next urn to stop retards from taking it just for the speed buff.I had a nigger drifter grab it off respawn everytime just so he could be fast
>>572952707yeah theres low prio
>>572952768if he ends up depositing it then it doesnt matter
>>572952778Does that only mean my queues can take longer? I'd rather watch youtube than waste 30 minutes on an already automatically lost match.For the record I have not abandoned once in 200 games yet but I'm just... burning out?
>>572952707after like 4+ leaves you'll get put in low prio where your matches will be even worse.you will get the worst of the chinese and brazillians on your team, low prio does not give a fuck what region you're from they are all just one miserable matchmaking pool.
>>572953009What the fuck... 4 ever or 4 in a day? Does it reset?
>>572953097you probably gain some threshold back for playing full matches, i only estimate it at 4 because that's how many in a row it took for my deranking smurf to get put into low prio.your first time being put in low prio only lasts until you win one time so it's not that bad, but you should also quit being a bitch and just play your games out.
>>572952778>>572953009Does Deadlock have an indicator like Dota does for being in low prio?
>>572948079what the fuck you can shoot the traps?!
Think I'm back to banning Haze, low ranking lobbies just can't handle her and she ends up fed with a massive soul lead 80% of the time.
>Rift creates super nigger troopersI thought DEI was dead
>>572953430you'll get a notice before you try to queue that you're about to play the worst game of deadlock in your life.
>>572953995DEI has only begun. You think it's bad now? It's only gonna get much much worse. Whites are becoming a minority group and niggers, spics and lgbtqabcdefgh12345+ are getting away with being openly racist toward us. The only reasonable solution is starting to look like mass genocide, culture mixing was always a mistake.
>>572954495drifter main?
Graves is consistenly the most broken, overpowered, easy to play character and will always be my ban pick until she gets nerfed (she never has been nerfed in a meaningful way).
>>57295399575% of the roster are DEI wokeslop multicultural inclusivity chungus.
Doorman, DoormanCan't you see?Demihumans and creatures need to hang from trees
>>572954686just press melee man
>>572954848Calico and Celeste are the only ones that come to mind
YOU ALL SUCK
>>572954661probably bebop
still waiting for yoshi to unnigger shiv's free t3 ult refresh ability
>>572954941It never does anything. The skulls only get hit by melee if you melee them when they're mid attack animation, otherwise they float a safe distance sway from you. They also never attack in sync so you can mash melee for 10 seconds and only randomly kill them. Shooting is the only option and it's very distracting, and most of the time if Graves gets even slightly snowballed she'll spawn 30 skulls instantly on top of you and you'll be dead in 2 seconds even if you have stacked defensives and 6000 hp.
>>572955076can you generate a pic of futa mina giving futa paige her big sweaty futa cock and make both their leaky futa cock and balls sweaty and veiny
>>572955313haze main btw
>>572955313this please god i love futa on futa
>there is a max fire rate speed reduction cap of -50%yes yes we must protect m1ggers at all costs we shouldn't be allowed to counter them they are too weak
>>572955567You dont think literally halving someone's effective DPS is sufficient to counter them?
Is there a way to play like Abrams or Mo+Krill or a similar hero like a full initiator support tank of sorts and still be useful? Like instead of building any damage items just stack defensives, counter items and actives?
Post some American themed Deadlock images
>>572955567wait til you find out there's a movement speed slow cap too.
>>572955076I need you to generate a picture with her ass out and her back bent in with her pussyy barely peeking through from a low angle with her face in it winking with her tongue out and her feet in it and her arch is exposed and her toes clenched and her torso at 3/4 rotation with her side boob and her nipples just out of sight with a choker on and her panties around her waist with the middle pulled to the side and her hands through the sides of the panties lifting them upward as her cheeks are out and I need a weapon.
>>572955695>halving dps>-50% on 200% fire rate matterslol
>>572956516That's very specific
yeah you just gotta pick soemthingg that can get shit done solo as soon as i got the hang of this nigga it was over for yoshi's matchmaking
>>572955076THIS >>572955313 BUT HAVE PAIGE ON ALL FOURS GETTING BRED AND KNOTTEDā¢ BY A GERMAN SHEPHERD
>>572955925I can't post blacked pics here
Since they basically gutted graves even though she already couldn't do shit on her own, I've been queuing nothing but m1 heroes and making everyone suffer
STOP FUCKING GOONING
i'm gooning to silver rn
COMMS RESTRICTED ON THE 4TH???THIS IS UNAMERICAN
>>572958158>>572958158>>572958158>>572958158>>572958158
>laning phase over>enemy Dynamo on a side lane has 11 kills>enemy Bebop on other side lane has 5 quintillion stacks and he's already saving for echo shart>even rushing spellbreaker won't help me
>>572955025Dynamo: fat, quirky chungusInfernus, haze, wraith: niggerPocket: they/them(literally, unironically, in a time period where this concept didn't exist)McG: male body girlbossGrey talon: redskin
>>572957356Build pic?
>>572952160>slavs play with slavs>slavs fucking hate slavs>go to western european servers and don't address any of their shitty behaviour and do the same>all the western europeans either quit the game or fuck off to NA>slavs are now forced to play with 80% slavs>slavs fucking hate slavs>slavs fuck off to NA to avoid other slavs>...guess what comes next
People will play grey talon or recently buffed drifter and then look me in the eye to complain about a riposte stun lol
