Its hard to generate ideas edition>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>572620230>Sister Thread>>>/bant/24601964
>15 hours 'til DD69
>>572769921you can do it.
Post Progress!
It’s America’s 250th birthday today, no time for gamedev or for demo day.
>>572770273am I supposed to know who this character is
>>572772948Their last demo day was DD64 before releasing their game. If you haven't joined a demo day then its understandable you won't know who it is.
>>572773532you have to follow like 7 different places to even understand what demo day is or who is who and where the fuck the game in question is even coming from there's like 3 or 4 threads at least 2 discord channels I mean wtf
>>572773532Today I will remind them
>>572773876Its at the top of every thread.You should join one.But I agree, agdg is a little fractured currently.
DEMON DAY COMETH
>>572773919I haven't seen damascus in a while did he go discording or just go on holiday?
>>572769548>Can you belive it guys? Demo Days, just 14 hours away
>>572774258probably died from being so fat
Rate my idea.Stardew valley style game but with an army of npcs. You give them tasks (farm, water, fight...) and they help you at the farm. Rpg mechanics so you get the strong guys to fight, the high dexterity ones to use a bow, the, well, farming ones to farm.Has it been done? Would it be appealing?
>>572773532Oh my, that was just one Demo Days before my most recent entry, on 65
>>572774443he looks like he fuck little girls
Barone explained that they can see the purpose of AI tools for “very specific, zoomed-in cases, maybe”. However, the tools will not be used for any of the indie dev’s projects.“You’re offloading creativity to an algorithm,” he said, “which I think is always gonna undermine the pure and authentic human element of what you’re doing… “So for me, as someone who wants to express myself in an artistic way, I wouldn’t ever want to use AI for any sort of creative thing, because it’s beside the point of what I’m doing. My goal is to express myself in a creative way. Why would I let an AI do that for me?”Barone explained that, in their opinion, human creativity “should take priority over a soulless machine”. While they can see why AI tools can assist in some tasks, generating creative works simply is not what they want to see.“At the very least, let another human being express themselves if you need help. That’s probably what I would say. There are plenty of humans out there that would like an opportunity to express themselves,” the indie developer said.
>>572774550they would die
>>572774452sounds prime for something closer to an RTS, but for the management and sim city part of the RTS
How do you fight the dark urge to create something with too big of a scope
>>572774601and?
>>572775106Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away
>>572774443>that door hingebranno what the fuck bro you're going to ruin your cawk pumping it like that.ED pumps are just meant to treat ED to make it hard not cause ED by bursting the cells from fluid pressure.You're literally abusing yourself. I know surface breaker flopped but I though healed to death went well?Seriously stop it, you're so called gains are caused from the permanent break down of the naturally elastic tissue causing scarring but also ruining your boner forever. Women are biologically designed to like boners that stand up. You're also going to kill the nerves meaning it will no longer be enjoyable anymore forcing you to rely on prostate stimulation making you an honorary faggot.I'm worried about you man, please just skip this demo day if it's too stressful for you. Jesus Christ and see a fucking doctor, check if you can get that fixed.
>>572774601you're a big cunny
>>572774553so he's using for code then huh...
>>572775509>However, the tools will not be used for any of the indie dev’s projects.
>>572775775He's coding manually without ai? Christ no wonder its taking 10 years
Lightning and weapon test.
>>572776495looks like shit
>>572776495nice and juicy
I think 2d platformers just might be the next big thing
>>572776495looks fun anon, is it lagging because of the screen recording?
Reminder that it doesn't matter how good AI is, you must hate it on principle
>>572778140'dites are too funny
>>572778140At some point these freaks will have to learn to let it go
>>572774553You are outsourcing a smaller portion of the creative process when you gen than when you commission. Objectively you express yourself more using AI than just paying someone else to do it.I use AI precisely because I want to express myself not everyone can spend 10 years coloring in pixels
I just want to see some progress.Let's try to get the agdg thread back on track let's make some games.
>>572778453's won't like this one
>>572778378nah they'll just kill themselves
>>572778378they will just appropriate AI and say that it was pro trans all along or some shit like that
>>572778453And you can get as many revisions as you have tokens. And no social media slapfights or backstabbings over stupid drama that has nothing to do with the game.
4.5 years of college (Dec 2023, Game Development).2.5 years of independently studying (after graduating).Never had tech internship or tech job.Here's my Portfolio https://rose-mtz.github.io/Portfolio/My skills are still weak and I have much more to learn.Is this normal? Or am I just not cut out for this?
>>572779821the not normal part is the 2.5 years of independent study which is a self flattering way of saying you couldn't get a job after college.Skills mean almost nothing in the real world, unless you literally can't do tech you can usually work your way up. You don't have to be a genius to get employment and hold it.>My skills are still weak and I have much more to learn.Why are you even bothering to say this, are you asking if you're doing something wrong? Yeah, he should have gotten a job. You went to school for game development and you didn't actually get into the field? Good luck finding anything now. Even more so if you're white.
>>572775775That's the editors conjecture. Barone didn't say that.
>>572778140I got hate on my artwork because it was "too good" for pixel art and thus AI. Nigga I've been doing pixel art for 20 years. We have to coexist. Don't hate.
>>572778453it only takes a year or two from no experience to start making art that has a distinct style and can work for gamedevin 3-5 years it'll even be 'good'When you commission someone, you do outsource creativity and it really does create the burden of having to convey everything you want to that person. However, it still remains that a human is looking through every part of the process and thus you get a lot of human thought out of it for a highly discounted price (compared to any other profession you could hire, per hour)Ultimately it would take longer and produce a worse result if I used AI than if I commission someone to do it. Art is cheap, even if they charge 3x the price for a commercial license. The time spent conveying ideas is not ideal but when parts have to be made to order for a game's art, it makes sense.Though in most cases you can't just commission art. So all of what I just said is kinda irrelevant but I don't wanna delete it now. Most indie devs have revenue share with artists, I'm an exception because I do all the core game art myself.
>>572778140Something can be good but also be complete shityears ago I knew that despite AI only making horrible slop, it'd one day make something that quality-wise looked good but by every other metric (functionality i.e. game parts, consistency, relevance, ability to evoke emotions) it's shit and these will still require human time and effort
>>572779791This will actually happen and it will be hilarious to see the people here who were anti-AI realize they were rugpulled and fucked themselves over by not using it to appease people who no principles.
>>572770273Today's progress has been animation.I don't think it will see Demo Days, but at least I have a "MVP" where the minimum part is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
>>572781160>it only takes a year or two from no experience to start making art that has a distinct style and can work for gamedev>in 3-5 years it'll even be 'good'damn only 3-5 years lol>Ultimately it would take longer and produce a worse result if I used AI than if I commission someone to do itspeak for yourself. Even if it is more feasible to commission now, AI is getting better and I'm getting better at using it. If you want to take the lifelong journey of learning to draw or 3d model I won't stop you, but you are definitely far better investing into learning how to make workflows in comfy and how to prompt than throwing money at some indonesian.
>>572782303On the other hand, I think the animation is looking pretty solid. Still WIP of course.
>>572782357That's the thing. The only way you "learn to prompt" is to not prompt at all. AI is not a skill because the entire point of AI is to raise the skill floor, that's like saying you can get better at reading a manual or better at watching tutorials.I believe it was Microsoft's study found that people who had more skills got better results from AI. I've felt it myself, I used AI to code in a script language I didn't understand and now I know nothing about that script language and trying to update that script gets harder and harder the more stuff is in there. I can't risk letting the AI rewrite the whole thing every time because it's a script that affects real people, not just a game.
>>572782762have you ever even tried to gen anything? It is absolutely a skill. Of course getting better at art makes you better at promping art as well. But prompting has a ton of theory and nuance of its own.Take a drawing class to learn how to set up preprocessors, that's what you think?
auteurs are the best prompters
give gamers what they want
I wanted to hate Fable but its actually good. FUCK
>>572784705krakapowa
>>572783787
>>572783243I could get into an argument about the skill of prompting, butI have a game to work on
>>572783787give the police what they want
>>572785026That game? Albert Einstein!!
>>572785050kek'd em
>>572785054lolichads... i kneel...
Is there a bant thread or are we still using shitty vg board?
>>572785994dumb luddite
>>572785994>>>/bant/24601964
>>572786054I use copilot and AI voice acting.
>>572786145>AI voice actingwhich one? I need this badly for my ludokino
>>572786145AI Chads just keep winning
>>572786579>the ai spammer is so annoying it's making even the other ai devs leave the generalKEKAROOOOO
Imagine going back to /agdg/ in 2016 and telling them Boku is still working on the game and is now known as an "ai dev"
If you review bombed Dungeon Drops there would be 1 less AIfag and the thread would be better
>>5727873242016 aggy would have been hyped as fuck for AI.
>>572787324Mock him all you want, he is going to be the first dev to work 30 years in a game and it will pay off.
>Newfaggots "old" /agdg/ is 2016Breh
im an oldfag been on the chans since the summer of 2020
>>572787339qrd on this 5 dollar game?
>>5727877142016 ancientfag here. Its an awooovement!
>>572787339you ludlost big time
>Wants to review bomb a based yesdev because AI mogs his tranny wayswhy are they like this?
>>572787714more than half a decade
>>572788279no it isn't
Lads, apparently i'll start my first game industry job soon. It's a "field" position. Basically I'll just replace faulty components on customers' (arcades) places.I dont have a motorcycle nor a car, so I'll have to use public transportation. Anyone here worked that way?I'll have to care care about everything by myself, eating food, drinking water, carrying the stuff, buying equipment, etc. I dont think the components will fit my backpack, so I'm still wondering what do to regarding that.By now my plan is just to eat a meal before going to work, getting 1 liter of water, get this old backpack I have, bring some plastic bags and eat some slop food as snack.The payment isn't great since I'll have to take care of buying stuff myself (like food and transportation), but it's fine since I have a 7 years gap on my resume (I'm a failed gamedev) and I'm broke as fuck, just not living on the streets because my family loves me. + I'll be able to go home early if I finish fast.I dont know what will be my plan after that, I'm too used to being a failure. Want to get back to gamedev but shit is hard. They told me I'll be able to get more jobs, if I want to, after 3 months or so, so maybe the next milestone is to buy a motorcycle.
>>572788985>I dont have a motorcycle nor a car, so I'll have to use public transportation. Anyone here worked that way?Ok but are you just going to the places to repair?If the components you carry fit in a bag, and your country's transportation is good, you should be fine.Also, gamedev is hard, if you don't have a financial mattress, the best thing you can do is stabilize your life with any job you can do that sustains you, bro.
its funny that when you want to learn music, you realize that books written 50+ years ago are way more effective than any "modern, up to date, cutting edge" video tutorial.i'm starting to believe that the difference between losers and winners is the ability and willingness to read books.and that believing "there couldn't be anything in books that i don't know already" is massive dunning kruger.also "if there would be good knowledge in books, someone would probably make a video about it" seems like a cope i constantly had. fact is, youtubers don't read books, their education style is solely "here are 10 tips that'll blow your mind".also there isn't that one book that solves everything. you gotta read many of them and combine everything useful. it's not like one person has all the answers. but all people together have a bunch of answers for sure.
"Research consistently shows that top leaders and successful individuals read an average of 50 books a year."
>>572769548Does anyone know any resources I can learn to texture 3D models, build 3D models and program action RPG combat in Gdextension with?
>>572787797He doxxed himself as an AIfag.
Bruh I'm so tired of these cornball luddites.
Daily reminder that coding manually is trans and snailcat
Galaxy Leap was killed for far lesser crimes. agdg could use another leak.
Kasha will be a key player in the coming war between the sassy animal platformer mascots and the cute girl platformer mascots
>>572790894We're in 2026 now. Cute girl mascots got replaced with this.
Just make a meme game or whatever. I don't care anymore.
>>572791024Molested Memphis mascots are another team entirely
>>572790410stop doxing people you piece of shit
>>572790621kekytruvnuk
>>572791024Tranny indian millennial calarts slop?
Platformers hard lose to Metroidvanias and they will never be a serious genre.
>>572791203I don't know what you call that art style, just that it's indicative of someone who hates their dad.Maybe "Foid Memphis"
>>572791269FUCK platformersspike a platfomer dev right into the fucking garbage can where the belong
>>572791365No, it's very indian in origin. They always push for that odd nose bridge design.
>>572773919you could've been a funny gimmick poster if you actually had a game. hurry up and surpass yourself and make one already
>>572791365no you guys need use the sharinganclearly it is actually a asian female art doing the whole faux white thing look at the eyes chico
>>572791568(((asian)))Yeah, """SOUTH""" east asian. aka INDIAN.
>>572791682sir...
The effeminate safe platformer that has none of the masculinity you'd get from Donkey Kong Country
Planned Kasha games:Kasha vs. Kritters (2027 hopefully)Hole-in-Nyan (minigolf game, that's what this model is for, TBD)Kasha's big untitled 2D platformer (TBD)
>>572791936she looks like she fucks AIchads
>>572791865I think millennials are all secretly pdfs
>>572791936Why are you wasting 1 and a half years on minigolf? You really ought to demote that into a minigame that exists within the platformer game.
>>572791983As in, pegs them? Because she's superior to them?
>>572792293you ludlost pdf
>>572792268Because I like minigolf and having spinoffs of different genres increases brand presence
'dites don't even pretend AI art looks bad anymore.
>>572792397you're not a corporation, you don't have a brand for there to be presence of
>>572792397Indie games are only good for their difficult bosses. If you make a game with 0 combat it will have no discussion on the other boards.
>>572792403ermmm sure it doesn't but it is transphobic you BIGOT
>Gamers
>>572792293GIWTWM
>>572792916these are the same cattle saying ai is bad btw, but the lus aren't ready for that discussion
>>572792403trvke, AI cunnies are getting satisfyingly accurate
>>572791482>spectre of los is a nodevdebunkedhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/505577110/#505637910
>>572793413wtf is this real
>>572792631Not yet, but I will
>>572788985>Anyone here worked that way?No I grew up middle class in America. If you're freely traveling between places then you should be able to easily grab a snack or drink inbetween and at least bring a drink with you to places (if the arcades don't offer you anything for helping). You sound like you're from a third world country so I can't provide much more advice but obviously affording a motorcycle or car would be a huge advantage.
>>572791682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsCzxZRDP90fuck we are both wrongits actually made by a ftm dude named ray allen
I'm going to steal that concept from X-Men '97 where a "Techno Organic Virus" enters your body and forcibly converts you into a robot over time. Except mine will come from a Cosmic Space AI that uses it to force convert planets, not man made.
>>572792916I would ask him to make it positive and explain how harmful a negative review is to an indie. I'd also tell him "Steam reviews are not tech support unless you are Chinese, so kindly rip off your head and skull fuck yourself. Amen. "
>>572783787holy moly...
>>572792916Thumbs up thumbs down is a dogshit system for reviews
>>572779821>roseplease kill yourself
>>572800204nodev de merde
If anyone has just showed up after not being here for like a week or so and you're wondering what the fuck is happening, this general on /vg/ is now dead. Every new thread is being made by a psychotic troll (most likely but not necessarily the failed game developer "faggoon") who obsessively spams AI related memes in a vane attempt to demotivate yesdevs.All non-schizo yesdevs have move to our new general on /bant/. Over there we have IDs so retards can be filtered. That's where actual progress and game dev related discussion is taking place now.>>>/bant/24601964>>>/bant/24601964>>>/bant/24601964
>>572801017thanks, i was wondering why this thread got so bad.
fable 5 could fixed a physics bug but removed the soul that the physics bug caused
>>572805002*coulda shoulda would proofread
>If you create a server with no anti-cheat, then don't be surprised when people move to another server.>Flags and at the very least IDs ought to be implemented on every board.Additionally, I suggest to add an option that shows that a poster has a cookie age that is less than 1 week old (to mitigate ban evasion and refreshing a device to getting filtered)
Krautbaboons aren’t sentient. I put them in the same category as troons and 'dites.
Its Demo Day!.Today's the day we finally show our superior AI Chad games on DD69. How many of you guys will be submitting
a new video showing a few thingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx9wbsORpLw
>>572807296I wouldn't be the lolicon I am today if it wasnt for France so thanks.
>>572779821college is a scam
>>572773876>>572774101Tell me what those other places are this thread is doomed
>>572770273>>572769548im posting this weeks progrry with THREE (3) smol webmsfirst counters, 12 of them and their small version
>>572807475My idea is too good. I'm afraid another AIchad will steal the idea and oneshot with fable 5 and beat me to the market
>>572807834a recent colors tab in the paint UI for easier swapping and stuff
>>572807834BASED
>>572807919and finally copying colors with the bucket itself
>>572808018how are you always awake and looking when i posti appreciate you
>>572807704there's /agdg/ on /bant/ (probably the best alternative).there's a game engine dev general /gedg/ on /g/there's the occassional game dev thread on /v/ which do get progress posts.there's a /agdg/ discord, plus a few splinter discord channels ran by other (inner circle) devs. But I don't know much about them.Its sucks, /vg/ should be the home for /agdg/ the actual progress posters have moved on, and /vg/ is just left with the trolls.
What are you afraid of, luddite? Are you unsure of your footing and balance? Are you weak? Can you not keep yourself from slipping down the mountain? Then by all means, remain a luddite so you're easier to eliminate.
>>572808249can't we report posts like these?
>>572808105The trolls won. hope they stick around in this thread feeding off the scraps like they deserve
>>572808407LOL
>>572808407it's offtopic and trolling, so yes.
>>572779821why didnt you make an actual game
Question for other yesdevs (AI Chads).With Claude Fable the 200K session limit is quickly reached.The weekly limit too.Issue is that they bill $10 / M which seems potentially huge (they’re probably temporarily over-pricing it because of the hype desu).Especially since simple tasks generally consume 10-30K.Me was thinking of buying one or two other €25 pro subscriptions and switching between them.Is that allowed?Is that even possible on PC?
>>572807572You’re the Krautnigger anon?
>>572808871>Is that allowed?You should be asking yourself whether it's possible instead
>>572808871just wait for gpt 5.6. fable is cool but they seem to have dumbed it down
>>572809353fable is literally just mythos but cucked, they literally told us that, idk what anyone expected
>>572778140>hehe I just 1 starred you, it's OVER
>>572809449I expected fable 5 we had early june. this one is not as good.
>>572809602I’m a little bit worried about Claude stealing my lower level C++ code, the kind that I spent six months writing while on magic potion, or something. Literally CS paper-level shit. I know nobody else solved the issues the code solves (mostly topology and shit) because the one single billion dollars company in my niche didn’t solve them even after hiring pure C++ monkeys with no gamedev experience from programming language committees.
One (1) single 10min task with Claude Fable.
>>572810250>while on magic potion, or something
this game made 7 million dollars and it didnt come out that many years ago so i'd not necessarily so its "over" for my game. at least mine is multiplayer
103 days left. I owe 25 hours of work. Finally finished that art asset after 35 hours. I'm not happy with it, but it won't be the reason my game flops.Today I'll be working on economy and upgrades. That's as far away from art as I can get.No one's seen or played my game yet. I have literally zero feedback on it. This approach worked out for me in the past but with such a small sample it could've been luck.
I have a fiverr order from jan 2022, I paid a voice actor to voice a trailer for demo day which I never made (paid 6.75€ for full rights and the guy now charges 100€)should I post it and be eligible for the next DD even though nobody knows me, or should I just delete the mp3 and kill myself and nobody ever hears it?
Am I the only one who doesn't care if their game sells and just wants to make the game they're passionate about?
>>572812072no
>>57281115313 years to build it..
>>572811153what
>>572812072I want both sorry. I didn't care about sales at first but then I got laid off from my AAA job and nobody is hiring programmer
>>572808249'dites lost bigly, many such cases
>>572808105NGL I keep opening this thread expecting to talk to anons about gamedev like a few years ago and now it's just been completely ruined by the AI spammer. I don't really like forced woke game dev discords either so there's nowhere else to go
>>572811786you should make a mock trailer with stills from your game with the voice over. but nobody makes trailers for their game for demo day they just post demos...
>>572812421your game xister? oh you don't have one? LOL
>>572811548
>>572812837Actually epic
>>572812912you ludlost big time
>>572812962look at the thread, zero progress posts.do you think this is what winning lookings like?ugly troll
>>572813043you have no game
>>5728128375 years ago you could have put this kind of video in a portfolio and get a $100k/year job. in 2026 it's basically worthless
>>572813106I do post progress. I still post progress in vg.But you are an ugly troll.
>>572813191stop trolling you have no progress
>>572813240I know you love me replying to you. I'm giving you the attention you are addicted to.Go on, post something about luddies and I'll reply to you again.Ugly troll.
>>572813405post your game, you won't
>>572812291When my game triumphs, I will hire you in my company anon. As long as you’re not a deranged tranny.
>>572813456You don't want my game, you want my (you). You are addicted,Post again and I'll reply to you again.Ugly troll
>>572809151Is it possible?Can I change accounts in my PC and pretending it’s my girlfriend (XX) working in my project?
AI Chads won yet again, must suck to suck for them 'dites
>>572813726reported for trolling
anyone got a good source of 16-bit or higher heightmaps of actual real looking locations? i've been searching for hours but it's either janky broken sites or people uploading their 8-bit pngstried getting real life data too but not much success either
>>572814629use ai
>>572814651can't output 16 bit
>>572814629ngl i don't think most irl heightmaps are that high resolution, most are older
>>572814794that sucks, makes them unusable for 3d heightmaps
>>572813574I don't want your (you). I want my fathers (you)... I'll never get it.
>>572814629I had some.. they were super crazy formats and hundreds of megabytes. is that what you are after?
>>572814778convert to 16 bit
>>572815405https://www.motionforgepictures.com/height-maps/maybe from here I don't remember
>>572815515yeah i was thinkin theres no way ai can't just upscale something
>>572812632it's not the audio for a (my) game trailer, it's an ad for demo day as a community event
>>572815405>>572815619i have experimented with these, just think they weren't that fitting for gameplay
>>572815309that's so sad.
>>572815787https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERq_-fMGofE&list=PLPi5m6bEDlzB_Kzfa-E32mbvR6Gm94Q0Zlike so? please post it
>8 years ago>'this once great community'https://youtu.be/cB7vE1yUGPs?list=PLPi5m6bEDlzB_Kzfa-E32mbvR6Gm94Q0Z
>>572816719the people she was talking are long gone, you aren't one of them either you are a dirty nodev
>>572816507https://youtu.be/TslnRl4c5Gceight. fucking. years agobut surely bokube (BOH KOO BAY) is coming out THIS YEAR, right?
what would you prefer agdg1000 people bought your game but never played it100 people bought and played it?3rd option 100 people bought, played and made 3 positive and 3 negative reviews
>>572819106yes
>>572818075actually I had a shower this month
>>572819106I would prefer people from 500 years from now, saying I was a master of gamedev.
>>5728191061000 people buy this game so I can make next game in comfort, leading to a better game
>>572819642start a gamdev religion/cult. you'd probably have to die for our gamedev sins though, are you up for that?
>>572819692but that's $10k - fat cunt cut - taxes
>>572819761I didn't use AI to do nothing. I am the superior engineer.
>>572819864dunno about being a martir, but I do plan on adding symbolism and spiritual meaning about life struggles in my games.
>>572820169are you the left one?
i bet aichads could make a better version of bokube within a month and push it out before it actually releases
>>572820649dunno what you mean by left.
>>572774553>“You’re offloading creativity to an algorithm,”That's such a retarded argument.
indie devs remind me of hippies.first they criticize the system. then they become worse than the system itself.e.g. they say shit like "aaa only cares about money", and now every gamedev video on youtube is about making money and everybody wants their ultra-optimized incremental idle slop game to milk money.they talked so much about soul, yet their gamble card slop has 100000 times less soul than skyrim, gta, witcher etc.i'd say one of the main problem was all the cargo cult mentalities, where indies thought "i can do that too", without understanding what went into soulful games. and now reality hits and they realize that creating soulful products costs money.basically how all hippies ended up wearing suits and being more anal about politics than their parents.
>>572807296Why not just move the discussion to reddit then?
>>572808871nigga the chinks are literally buying subs through proxies to distill the models and you're worried about bouncing between two subs lmao
>>572808871I have like 10 gmail emails to use with free google collab limits.
>>572808871Someone on plebbit got banned for doing that
Paying for AI is like paying for Winrar. Just tell Gemini or whatever what you need and paste into your code and no problem
>>572819996my game is $500
>been working on it for over 2 years now>probably won't be finished for another 2-3 years>just want to fucking be done with it already
>>572822393Valve caused that by cornering the PC gaming market and then only promoting 400 games a year while having no content standards.There's no reason to make passion projects when the overwhelming majority of the time what will happen is you have 0.5 seconds of visibility on the new games tab and you will fail to reach valve's arbitrary and ever changing standards for engagement then you will banished to the shadow realm forever. Meanwhile absolute fucking liquid shit like pic related makes a ton of money because it blew up on tiktok because 80 iq third world children found it funny.The unwillingness to call out valve is why indie games are the way they are now.
>>572822393in the 90s those sloppers were making 2d platformers, and some went on to become beloved franchises. in 2046 we will look back on the idle games era as soulful
>>572823571nah, claude code is goated fr. I don't even need to know what scripts i have
>>572824027have you ever finished a proper game before(one that took months or years?)
>>572824027>only 2 yearslook at this fuckin guy
>>572824445>>572824501my previous game took around 3 years, but it was much simpler and easier to make than this one.
>>572824217So...90s -> platformer slop00s -> fps slop20s -> idle/incremental slopbut what was 2010s
>>572824028> 773 overwhelmingly positive reviewsgood game then
>>572824929live service slop
>>572824929puzzle platformer
>>572824940>>572824028Its at 1400 reviews now
>>572825058very good game then
>>572825058>all the reviews are jokesmy next game will be open mic night review bait
>>572788985Can't you just, like, show your games on your resume?I guess if you took 7 years and the games aren't noteworthy then I wouldn't really blame them, but it's good you can find a job anyway. it'd be a sign the world's really fuck if people can't get even basic jobs.
derek yu said you can't increase the base appeal of your game much. but what if you add sex?
I'm working on a set of tutorial slides that will make my demo easier to make sense of. They won't be done today, if I worked over the weekend I might have them done while submissions are still open. Should I hold back my submission until I can get the tutorial slides done (or until it becomes apparent it isn't going to happen in time), or just tidy up what's good to go and have a build ready to submit as soon as the demo day goes live?
>>572826589I wont read the tutorial anyway so just put it up
>>572824929CooP campaign slop
>>572822393and what? You're going to prove them wrong by solo devving skyrim 2.0?>where indies thought "i can do that too", without understanding what went into soulful games. and now reality hits and they realize that creating soulful products costs money.sounds like you're in that position right now. Making idle games and roguelikes isn't about making money, it's about making a game that you actually have the means to make. I'd rather make a "sovlful" balatro clone than a dogshit gta clone.
>>572826087>increase the base appeal of your gamewtf does that even mean?
>>572828067asstiddies
Hello anons. I want to look at some of the big 2016 indie games. This is just a list of games I personally remember doing well but I may have missed some.>Stardew Valley>RimWorld >Factorio>Superhot>Hyper Light Drifter>The Witness>Darkest Dungeon>Enter The Gungeon>Salt and Sanctuary>INSIDE>Va11 Hall-a>Overcooked>Firewatchin your opinion ten years later have indie games gotten better or worse?Are the games being released more diverse in content than ten years ago or less?
>>572828990Indie games have never been better. Meccha Chameleon blows all of those games out of the water.
Here's a poem for agdg.Sad little AI cuck.Worried like a duck, to improve your workflow.Without understanding what first is the old flow.Hopefully you claim, this newer model.Will be the great chosen odel.But day after day, night after night.Time passes and you'll keep stagnating.No progress, no games, no video recording.You will reply, but luddlost lost.Unable to understand the fable.Not even able to produce food on your table.Totally disposable product your make.But you will fake, the divine spark.That can ignite the car to reach your goal.But you only can fart and produce mental darts to your own made up enemies.Because you're totally kidnapped your mind.To some imaginary tale, of a war of nodevs.Without understanding that you're not a real dev.Unable to fable the cable to create art.You reach a word predictor, hoping it will fart.Some mathematical diarrea.
>>5728289902016 was a good year, indie games are cooking now too
>>572774553Maybe he should've used AI to fix his shitty code, so Chucklefucks had to fix multiplayer for him
>>572828067It was from an article he wrote about finishing your game. The core concept/hook is the appeal, polishing only helps a tiny bit, most are sold on the idea and basic execution, you won't attract more players by polishing it forever
why will your game flop?
>try to vibecode more than one thing at once>total schizo bullshiti see, i see
>>572836062Because I haven't marketed it or told anyone I don't know that it exists
>>572835630I see. Agree with that mostly but I would say the simpler your core concept is the easier it is to increase the appeal. Like good art can make a boring VN interesting but it won't save overcomplicated or frustrating gameplay.
Hey, it's me! John Journey. This is my last Demo Day with you. I was only waiting for the (Nice) edition to come. Heartfelt thanks to anyone who has given my project a bit of your time! I'll continue work on Journey Zero (18-28-38-48), only elsewhere. If you need me, I'm still on itch! Come check the state of the project from time to time.
>>572769548EyeBallTank here, tried submitting Hirdrih while my PC crashes like 5 times in a row.I want to see if I can somehow play anything by anyone else.
>>572838119why are you leaving us?
>>572838474You guys are an early springboard. Once you get some wind under your wings, you're supposed to graduate.
Just finished prompting my game, what do you all think? Any suggestions? https://neon-rush-ochre.vercel.app/
>>572839063I thought we was supposed to be frens forever.
>>>/v/742499849
>>572770273https://scrungusboyo.itch.io/a-demonstrationWelp. You can play it right now
We need streams.
If there's no fanart, I will never participate in Demo Day ever again.
>>572822393Yeah its fucking disgtusing. Fuck hippies.
>>572840870>no screenshots>NotAVirus.exe
>>572823267Google collab is pretty nice I have to admit.
if your game has no pictures or is not playable on browser i am not playing it
"hippe" is gonna be the schizo's new spam term
>>572842806what if it is playable on browser?
>>572811548>103 days leftwait I thought it was at 90 something days a while ago did you gain days back?
>>572842858GenX just sucks they are a bunch of hypocritical faggots
all these game fucking suck
Imagine spending years on this site spamming JLMG and then trying to gatekeep against AI game dev
|_|_||)status?
>>572808871The only successful AI Chads will be dayjob webdevs who already have multiple MAX subscriptions
>>572781361The other metrics are determined by the director behind the agent building the content.. aka a human
>>572844182don't waste your time talking with the ludcattle
>>572842806>not playable on a browserWhy? Are you poor? Sucks to suck.
>first saleTFW
so which DD game is made by the ai schizo?
>>572785994>>572786145looks epic
>>572844182exactly. the other factors are determined by human effort that you can't just proooomptit can be stolen, but stealing shit tends to create inconsistent results and teaches you little
>>572845078DD? ditie death?
implying a schizo who does nothing but shitpost about ai in the thread could make a game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBhUyL0VtkAMade another 10/10 kino, chuddies.
>>572845078none, he just found an angle to shitpost
>he thinks a guy who spends his entire days spamming nonsense made a game
>>572845194uhhh based? this pixel platformer finna get DOWN
>IμᏚ think I don't have a gamestop projecting, it makes you look extra silly
any moment now
>>572846793If you have a game post it
>>572846834COLOMBIAN LUDOKINO
>>572846915Fuck you luddites, not letting you gangstalk me
what the fuck is ricochet raiders
>>572847076So no game then? Sad.
>>572847426you ludlost big today
>>572847265Easily the best demo this time for sure I can already tell although corner camping is overpowered when you get a big solid block in the corner. It's like camping a corridor in a roguelike. There should probably be an additional margin of one tile where blocks can't spawn
>>572847683it's alright but i've never seen it before
>>572847936Proof?
Add screenshots to your fucking itch pages! There's some games in here that I know look really fucking cool but nothing about the page would even hint to that being the case.
>>572847959i am a neet and am on 4chan every day
>>572838119I have played your game in a past DD and I just want to tell you, you need to make your game more approachable. What I mean is, the name is confusing because of those numbers. The interface of the game is daunting with lots of stats when you open some menus. There isn't really a tutorial or anything. It's your game so you decide. Good luck.
>>572848607>you need to make your game more approachableNo, I won't. I want dedicated players who put in the effort. I'm so tired of modern games trying to appeal to drooling crayon eaters.
>>572847507Not at all. I have a game, and I don't just shit up this thread all day every day.
>>572848970If you have a game post it
nigga you are more obsessed with the state of this thread than the state of your gamePOW
>>572849092smoked that 'dite freak
>>572849016If you post yours I'll post mine and we can compare.
>>572849631after you post yours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CTe4aenuO8Made a song off my AI cduck nodev poem.
>>572842974At the end of every month I do a financial summary and reassess. It's the second time my deadline gets pushed back. This time I got an extra 15 days which I'm probably going to waste by wasting two weeks on an animated cursor or something.
>>572851178>waste by wasting
>>572845261yeah that was a rhetorical question, i know he has no game at all lmaoimagine looking back years for now and your only achievement is "i shitposted on 4chan" lololololool
>>572849981>n-no you post firstyou have no game :)
>>572851178Cool. Keep me updated.
Gabencunt in London
uh oh about to unload a big stinky in the demo day
>>572849981You were the one claiming to have one submitted to DD so it's on you to share. I don't have one in DD but I will share my game if you post yours. Otherwise continue to shut the fuck up.
what would you do if you saw a game that didnt get posted in a while get into demo day again because its dd69
>>572855602>I don't have one in DD
>>572855991haha sex number
>>572855991I only submitted my demo cause it's the funny sex number!
Made some proggy on my battle UI for my boat game
>>572858101Don’t pretend it’s not AI
i hate to admit it, but the root of all of my problems is being an incel. constant thinking about how to look, how to live, how to behave, how to get outside to not live so isolated, but going outside does absolutely nothing, i've been outside thousands of times now.but after years of doing that i realized it goes nowhere anyways. i just accept that i'm a lonely weirdo creep and i'll never have social relationships again. at least i can weird out and be my weirdest self. cause trying to be normal just didn't work. even if you look somewhat nicely, what does that do, unless you are ultra-attractive they wont approach you anyways. unless you are ultra-rich they wont approach you anyways.and even if you find one who likes you, it's just projection, they know someone like you, an artist or actor or so, and they think cause you look similar you are similar. and 2 weeks later they go like "oops i think i dont love you anymore".and meeting people online is even worse. you never gonna meet them irl, it's like getting teased and it never becomes more.and then you go back being lonely which causes heavy depression because that's what loneliness does to you. and the cycle repeats. you try all that bullshit like going outside or doing sports again, which goes absolutely nowhere.the worst thing that could happen to me is becoming some perma-coper like john blow, who thinks this is all normal life and you should just embrace it with meditation copium and other asiancel coping strategies.
>>572858668i just got tattoos + hopped on steroids + go to expensive barber + wear slutty clothes and i went from 28 khhv to 32 with 50+ bodies
>>572858668literally just get into men and crossdressing and you're gonna get fixedmaybe even maek gaem since trannies are good at that
>>572858668loser faggot
>>572858953wow that sounds even more depressing. i'm just gonna porn-max and keep doing therapy cause that way i have at least 1 person to socialize with.
Got my demo uploaded for DD69!
>>572859336>'m just gonna porn-max and keep doing therapySigh. Let me guess, single mother household?
>>572858668I was in the same position as you, but I've tulpa-maxxed my life and now I have a loving family who cares a lot about me. It was a long journey, but it was so worth it.I've never felt genuine love before I created them. Now I get it every day.
hope is the enemy of action
i like when video games are their own parallel universe and not just a set of rules to win rounds and points.
>>572857051Yeah I'm not a zoomer so I don't care or have any intention in your little dumb shit
I still need to fix some bugs but the page is live at least.
>>572861026man you ludlost too hard
a healthy fantasy must assure you that there's no possible way it'll ever become real. otherwise it'll become a form of hopium cope.e.g. esports makes you believe you might become a star and rich and famous, which is unhealthy. or streaming makes you delusional that you might find a partner or friends through it.a good responsible fantasy gives you everything you want, but makes it immediately clear that it'll never become reality.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a3qS6wFkXpMPretty happy now that I understand how to makwe a hook in my melodies.
>>572858101Looks nice, but shouldn't the top speed be FLANK though?
>>572861284You are getting better Cris but it still has that amateur stink because you aren't stacking your leads. Guitar players are probably the most infamous for this but truth is any music with a modicum of intensity does this.Even older games do this. For examplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqL2kvu6PK8You know how sega genesis/mega drive has 6 voice/channels? 3 of them are playing the lead melody in this track - slightly detuned to make a bigger impact. With how hard the bass and drums are hitting how could a puny console made in the late 80s possibly create a powerful space melody with realtime processing that cuts right through the mix? Its because half the damn chip is dedicated to producing it. 3 voices + slight detune + vibrato = monstrous lead.If you want to leave that weak indie stink behind that sounds like a casio piece of shit then you have to do this. Your composition is good, just think more on how it is arranged.
>>572861027kanna...
>>572861151How so?
>>572858668take the mistressT pill>>>/wsg/6189878>>>/wsg/6189879
>>572863432does the t stand for tranny
>>572863432it's actually the 1 porn actress in all of fetish porn that i find very ugly
>>572863660she looks 40
>>572863541I wish bro
Where are da loligaems??
>>572814629I sometimes use this to generate a test image for heightmaps. It's the entire world but in heightmap form, so just scroll to a place that's interesting and then take a screenshot, then use Photoshop or whatever to convert it to a 16 bit RAW for importing.https://tangrams.github.io/heightmapper/#11.35/37.8541/-110.3846>>572816073You're going to find this is the case pretty often. Depending on what you need the heightmap for, you will probably need to edit it. The requirements of a video game are often very different from reality.
>>572864650kannaCHAD haven't uploadered
>>572862615only in american navy
>>572859695For deep lore reasons everything is different each time you start a new game with 125 different variations of the intro cutscene dialog, each NPC has a different name, few other minor differences atm, different things in the chests etc.There is a playable piano and a TV playing an interesting TV show that you can find and interact with. so far people complained the combat was too hard, the player is locked at lvl 1 and can't get stronger in the demo so these enemies are a bit of a hazard, in the actual game once you get a few levels under your belt these things are meant to be fodder you can tear through easily.
>>572865813it's the only navy that mattershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA2rlov5p6E
is there an /agdg/ based steam curator for yesdevs?
>>572867142yes
what's the consensus from the ai hater/tranny/luddite crowd about using ai for coding in game dev?art is obviously the more clearly hated one
>>572868261AI should be used for everything as it is based. Any arguments against this are by luddite trannies (oxymoron).
>>572868261>what's the consensus from the ai hater/tranny/luddite crowdliterally who fucking cares they don't get to decide how things are done
>>572858668I mean if you really wanna be like this guy >>572858808 you should be in /fit/we dgaf about 3dpd here
>>572864747the original texture isn't 16 bit, so it gets extreme banding when imported.yeah i've noticed
>>572870065>/fit/ gets pussythe funniest thing I've read on agdg in weeks
>>572871465just saying that's where all the "yearners" (failed normies) are
I >>572871465have a big-assed girlfriend unlike you trannylu’
>>572871885are you on /fit/ though?
>>572844949Congrats anon!
>>572871885just like the game that you supposedly have but you'll never post
>>572868261They’re against every AI use and they will leave you seething negative reviews on Steam but who fucking cares. They’re a very loud very tiny minority. Those "people" didn’t exist 50 years ago and won’t exist 50 years from now except in camps.
>>572872517they look like they have sex with lolidevs
>>572872196Not recently but I liftYou know the rule
i cant stand visual novels and turn based games and that's like 90% of games in demoday every single time
>>572872598Sorry, they only have sex with ugly bastard anti-ai luddites.
now both the /vg/ and /bant/ threads are dead :/
>>572878415normally demon day is peak schizophrenia... aggy is truly over.damnback in my day people used to progress post and debate about marketing and talk about hugboxes and killed the crabs. The only schizo we worried about was the eric schizo.today it's just AI and e-celeb spam.
>>572878720it's not just aggy, 4chan is dead in general. chuds can just use xitter now
>>572881257Xitter is dead too though. All social media use is decreasing in the West
>>572881536because there are too many browns
>adding a new enemy at the last minuteUhhh...
>>572881536thats because western people are declining
>>572878415The real /agdg/ is in a super secret place, but I'm not gonna tell you where it is, because, well... I just won't.
>>572881801Nice
>>572881801cute
>>572868261AI code is not as hated because it's not a creative endeavor.
>>572882317if AI codes your utilitarian UI it's over though
>>572882532modern game uis are extremely soulless and utilitarian thoughever
>>572882532I ain't doin' that shit
>>572868261Objectively speaking AI code is worse for the environment and more responsible for the memory crisis than AI art but you can't see it so no one spergs over it.Also if you use modern AI art but don't tell anyone no one cares because you can't tell unless you're an extremely poor prompter.
>solodev shows up out of nowhere with perfect art and code>no history>no prior gamesyou just know
Making a game with friends.We now do this instead of having fun together.Tried to add a top level node I called main where I basically do scene management from. Was told it's unnecessary because we can just load scenes on demand and use globals to pass data between scenes.I don't really feel very useful. Though I'm not the main driving force behind this project.Don't know if this is the best place to talk about it because this general just looks like AIndian trolling.
today i learned about some engine limitations and changed my design, c'est la vie
>>572884106I have no clue what that implies. ai use?
>>572884489real gamedev moment desu
>>572884702That's what I was implying, it's no guarantee but I see it in the art world now, when artists started tracing/referencing AI.
>>572881536tf am I supposed to do now print out my shitposts and hold them out in the streets?
I hate to say it but... it turns out we actually needed summer fags.Literally the most disgusting words that even came out of my mouth and I've been banned on /pol/ for racism before.
>>572884284What do you want us to do? insult your team mates and call them trannies? I'll do it, send 'em on over
>>572881885Why am I not allowed in the trannycord xister?
>>572885378Okay!
/agdg/ is under siege, under lockdown
>>572886310the beatings will continue until morale improves
Is anyone planning on streaming DD games?
>>572887010You missed Brimstone's stream
>>572884284there’s also >>>/g/vcg/
>>572887331I see, so why is this place filled with AI shitposts by people with zero confidence?
>>572888237projecting
try not arguing for One (1) day. I bet you stupid motherfuckers can't do it. it's literally impossible for you to not seek or generate conflict. the irony is that you all also hate women but then turn around and act exactly like them!
>>572887331>vibe coding general is considerably faster than agdglaff
>>572888552I scanned half this thread and it just seems to have an anon reposting some AI generated memes only he understands about how AI is great but never posting his AI generated game and how much money it's made him.
>>572889152I'm a real girl now?
>>572889479so both the pro ai and anti ai posters have no games?
>>572889553uh hello? its /agdg/, no one has games
>Someone downloaded the DD 67 version of my game.NOOooooo
>AI is good because I do nothing all day!Not a really great own
>>572889479heh
>>572889479why did the ai chad do such a low quality edit of the original
>>572889685>old and yuckymaybe he's a hagmaxxer
now that the AIspammer is dead we can reclaim our thread
Streaming in about 1 hourTwitch.tv/havic_sBrickedSlam dingoRicochet raiders Caveman apocalypse
>>572891961I only watch vtubers with huge breasts.
>>572891961Add Trashlands to your lineup
It' simple. We, uh, kill the AI spammer.
>>572892804It's too late.He already uploaded himself to ChatGPT.
>>572892804i go to /bant/, far from shiposters jurisdiction
>>572892132Might add a few more if devs are in chat requesting, otherwise I will be streaming demos all weekend
>>572881801>A password is required to view this pagehow do I get the password kannaCHAD?
What's the edgiest thing I can name my game that Steam will allow?Can I name it AIDS Online?
>>572895691Perhaps they'll let me call it "Realms of Nigg Arr?"
>>572769548I want to make a strategy game so bad.But I always run into the dilemma of gameplay.I think gameplay should be simple, maybe just 3-5 buttons and resources.And every time I concluded that changing numbers isn't interesting.
>>572889479>>572890573
Will steam let me name my game "Niggearth?" (n-word + Earth)
>>572895691You had games literally made by /pol/tards.https://store.steampowered.com/app/1141550/KEKOLD_SIMULATOR_Life_as_a_Beta_Male_Cuck/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3361540/TYRONE_vs_COPS_2/
>>572889256the signal:noise ratio is higher in there
>>572895906Me is making a GSG and progress is pretty advanced (like 20%, which means most systems are in place.)
>>572896289I have noticed it too.Seems like gsgs, you have spent a lot of time with the system before you can even get basic gameplay going.
>>572895948
>>572896692here's your (you).I know you are addicted to attention.ugly troll
how do i get good at character design?
What's absurd is that this is not transhua >>572896692But this is >>572897739
>>572897821
>>572897821do the total opposite of what you are currently doing
>>572897969he's doing it again.I'm giving you some attention. I know you are addicted to it.Post again and I'll reply to you.Ugly Troll.
>>572897917>shonenshit
>>572898469too many men and not enough grade school girls for your tastes?
>>572898540They're all too strong for him to rape
>>572898540On in Ball and GT
>>572898819guh...
>>>/bant/24608486>been spamming since mid november about AI, has no idea about it other than call everyone a luddite>implies that has a game, never posted it>demo day arrives, is so desperate for attention that suddenly has a girlfriend>as if someone with that profile would be desirable for anyone or would have time to behave like he doesI unironically will say: thank you, AI spammer, for showing me how deep someone could get if he doesn't do the hard work to achieve his goals in life.
>>572891961Going live
Best selling book
human "artists" will simply be made obsolete in the future.a machine will create anything you desire. there is no more room for human ambition. there is no place for human art. why think at all when a machine can do it for you? why expend any unnecessary effort?there is no point in your struggle. the "beauty" you seek is nothing but a surge of chemicals and dopamine.you will not create anything. you will enjoy no further purpose in life.you will simply consume until you die.
it's like a bad villain in a JRPG[insert generic protag speech about the power of humanity to persevere and always overcome] [insert optimistic J-Rock final-boss track]
>>572902717Cringefail AI will never be an artist get rekt
>>572902717Enjoyment is a chemical process. Beauty, ambition, purpose, and satisfaction all exist through the brain’s machinery. So the argument defeats itself: if AI reaches the point where it can give us everything, and that abundance somehow makes us unable to enjoy anything, then AI can also manipulate the very mechanisms of enjoyment.AI would not merely be able to create the things we desire; it would be able to restore, stimulate, or engineer the capacity to desire and enjoy them. A machine powerful enough to make all human effort obsolete would also be powerful enough to make the resulting emptiness obsolete.
>>572903271you will be castrated and THEN fed as biofuel
>>572903495in the future, humanity will have two choices.a world without suffering.or a world without purpose.
>>572903783usecase for the clothes?
>>572858101Made some changes to my UI, to make it a little lighter and give the ship room to breathe>>572862615Thanks anon, I stole the FULL from world of warships, since they basically set the standard for naval warfare games. Flank is uncommonly used only in the US navy
>>572904025why boat made of wood planks?
>>572904074The beige leighting of the interior is a good contras to the blue sea but rooms will be lit differently eventually based on their importance and state
>>572902717i like drawring
>>572904290proof?
This is turning out quite nicely, I am happy
>>572881801@grok, enable DLSS 5
I'm absolutely seething at devs with decent 3D games. I couldn't into 3D. My 2D game is quite far along. And I spend most of my time wishing it was 3D instead.
>>572903783There is no purpose and there never has beenThis is all a consequence of the death of godThe last bastion of a defense mechanism is to embrace a delusion and chase it
>>572904739rigging and animation suck
>>572904329
>>572904965Holy shit
>>572904965soul
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/E5GpT7f9uCoMade a melody paragraph using a single motif.pls rate.pretty happy it sounds now like more coherent.
>>572904670
I just pushed a quick update to Trashlands. Too many people were complaining about the combat being too difficult or it being too hard to tell when you were hitting so I made the player attack hitbox larger, put numbers above enemy heads when they take damage and reduced the amount of health the enemies have.
>>572905716sorry I need someone else to confirm it isn't ear rape before I click
>>572906049add luddite dismemberment
>>572906869>Marxist>Believes in gatekeeping art
>>572902717you're taking a mathematical model a little too much seriously, do a favor to yourself and learn how it works because holy shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPZh9BOjkQs
im a psychopath because i dont see other humans as humans, i see them as inanimate objects, possibly matrix programs or "dream people" im imagining. this makes my life very lonely because im convinced im the only real person that exists. i have been trying my hardest to scam them out of their money but it never works, i think the matrix code alerts them to it.
>>572907449>ludtrannies>not being hypocritesimpossible
>>572909410Your dream world fucking sucks can I be let out?
>>572908534did you really think that post was pro-ai?
>>572910642It might as well be, it just becomes anti when he starts blabbering about muh sense of purpose, which is just a dumb meme trannies whine about
>>572910779do you live your life without a purpose?
>>572910915purpose is a spook
this is literally me btw
How long until I can declare myself winner of DD69?
>>572911023kanna...
>found a bunch of bugs as I was about to upload my buildNYOOOOOO
>>572905920
Helloo?? Where's the DD fanart???
>>572910642it's more like the same retarded conclusion that a mathematical model (AI) running in a bunch of semiconductors will learn more and more until eventually becomes conscioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxW0yGvWRTk (0:48)
>>572913925Everything is math, so are you.
>>572913925All of those guys would say current AI is conscious thoughverbait.
>>572913681
>>572914574where are the lolis?
>>572820810With how AI has been around since 2022 its pretty clear it cant be done. You see retards think bokube is just a ten minute long mobile game like that mojito trash game on steam nobody bought; but its pretty clear its hard to AI generate 7-10 hours of content that was made to be similar to the structure of a kirby/mario console game. Its not easy to clone bokube other than its surface level CUBIC ANIMAL GAME CHARACTER low IQ nigger braindead view of the game. Just to get the level of polish bokudev has the game at now; you would need more than 2 years even with current AI tools and your clone might come up short compared to the real thing. Its like looking at mario 64 and surface level summarizing the entire game as "Well if we make a game where the character can press A to jump we cloned mario 64 and have something better THAN ITSELF" which is retarded you're not realizing the scope and content of the work a clone would have to do.
>>572915028*gestures to noose*
>>572915078ok boku
>>572916212based ryona chad
Branno, mate just hire an artist. Ever since Surface Breaker, you've regressed as a developer
>>572916668How much are you chargin?
buy an ad
>>572913989Math aint real
>making srpg without fog of warWhat should Forest tiles do? I already have swamps to lower movement range.
>>572916668we went full circle. this is just warcraft 1?>incrementally increase your resources>gold goes up>unlock buildings and upgrade things to get more goldtrick incremental gamers into playing a standard RTS?
>>572917238sight/ranged range?
>>572915078AI can't make compelling sokoban levels anyhow
make Masonic games
I can't wait for bokube to launch and flop so we can be free from this vermin, I was really hoping the /v3/ release was true
bokube and the polycode binaries will release on the same day!
>>572898540https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo-OwEM306E&t=5s
>>572913925nobody said "current ai tech is going to be GAI"the point was that ai niggas really want a future where all forms of unique human expression is extinguished
>>572910915Our purpose on this planet is to fuck bitches and make children not arrange pixels on a screen, leave that shit to the machines.
Vertmonkeys be like>Tracing an image with points in 3d space is makes me an artist!No hon you're barely even an artisan
>>572919745if our purpose is to spawn indefinitely, then why is human cloning and similar forms of genetic manipulation banned in most countries?
i wanted to make a mario kart clone, but looking at mario kart 8 deluxe, it's such a beautiful and feature-complete game that i have no fucking way of competing
>>572920318Your competition wouldn't be Mario Kart, it would be other indie kart racers like Sonic Robo Blast 2, Garfield Kart, and that Bloodborne game.
indie racing games usually suck anyway because it's a genre that needs a lot of experienced and obscure polish to feel good to play
>>572919745children are gay time and money wasters
>>572921225you vill breed and feed more slaves to the machine and you vill be happy
I do my part as a caveman and worship holy rock which says 500k perfect population, too many other cavemen on earth
>>572920318You have no way of competing not because of features but because of cast. The only way to compete with something like Mario Kart is to have a cast of karters who people want to play as and use with unique cool karts. So you'd need to basically create perfect solid foundational game that you can inject characters into then you'd need to get creators on board to have their game character put into the game. Otherwise you wouldn't even be able to comepte with yooka laylee kart or whatever just came out or what the fuck at minimum.
check out my new game guizhttps://chudsamazingfactory.pages.dev/
>>572922898>a cast of karters who people want to play as Aggykart
what the actual frick am i making
>>572924059bugged
>>572924645youtube AI ad ahh game
Are you guys actually still doing all your code by hand or is AI assisted coding quietly accepted now?
>>572925281If you're not using AI with your code you're just retarded at this point. Drop the ego and get the free time saver.
>>572925281>AI assisted coding quietly accepted now?when people were against it?
>>572924645ask AI
>>572925281programmer for 20 years. stopped coding by hand in february. coding with AI is way cooler. it's like science fiction.
>>572925281it's fucking mathare you doing all your math by hand?no?what a surprise
>>572925281I ask AI to review my code, but most of it I write myself.The only exception I make is for heavier geometry e.g. >xform.basis.x = xform.basis.z.cross(normal).normalized()Additionally, AI is good at teaching patterns and habits. That said, sometimes it will glaze you or disapprove of you too much and you have to remind it why you're doing the things you're doing.
>>572925736>coding with AI is way cooler. it's like science fictionwhich science fiction though?
>>572926639considering he used the expression "cooler" unironically he's likely less than 20 years old
>>572926716imagine thinking "cooler" is a young people thing, you must be some old aah gen Xitter
>>572925281>SARR PLS BE OF BUYING TOKENS AND USE AYEE EYE VERY GOOD NOW SAR!!!give it a rest, you cultists are more obsessed with recruiting members than actually showing off the supposed productivity gains
>>572927113you ludlost
>>572927113maybe it's not even humanGoogle and OpenAI and Anthropic wouldn't be above setting a few agents to the task of shilling for AI on every notable platform.
>>572926952it's more of a "im too cognitively handicapped to come up with a word or phrase that substantively describes why i act the way i do so i replace it with slang that is devoid of meaning" thing
>>572924737try this https://chudsamazingfactory1.pages.dev/
>>572927249oh wow you are so fucking smart, bet you got a very juicy game in the works
>>572927316you dont need extraordinary intelligence to share your disapproval of lying children
>>572927440he lied about calling something cool? you are such a toddler
>If you're not using AI with your code you're just retarded at this point. Drop the ego and get the free time saver.>when people were against it?>ask AI>programmer for 20 years. stopped coding by hand in february. coding with AI is way cooler. it's like science fiction.>are you doing all your math by hand? no?
ludmeltie
I hate 2D lighting for isometric. I just want to reiterate it's a killer to my motivation. I also hate how godot wants to limit 2d lighting for whatever fucking reason and you have to change settings if you want a bunch of unique lights in an area.
What separates a hobbyist from a pro?person 1 did it as a hobby for 10 years then released a game for 14 reviews after quitting his job, expecting a living wage for his workperson 2 did a commercial first game and sold 1 million units after 2 yearsperson 3 is employed and receives regular paychecksis any one of them not a pro?
https://x.com/ikeda_0121/status/2073339322909237371elp
>>572928087You know how I know you're a child? Lmao, or just literally a retard who can't google at minimum. Amateur = not paidProfessional = paidAny other dumb ass questions you need answered?
>5 hour limit resets>fable 5 >:) >100% limit reach in 6 secondswell frick
>>572928176Fuck you benchod
>>572928087there are professional artist who just draw stick figures and doodles
>>572928087hobbyists never care to make an actual product, regardless of if they charge or not.
>>572927552look at all those satisfied customers
>>572926716I'm 39. I was cool in the 90s. way past cool actually.
>>572926639>which science fiction though?reboot
>>572928219I don't know what this means
>>572928605newfag gora
I really really hope I manage to upload something for demo day.
>>572928087I would only consider someone a professional if they made high quality work and got paid for itA hobbyist could also make pro level stuff, but just do it for funAn amateur can still make money off their lower quality work
>>572928686Looks amazing, can't wait to play it.
>>572928605benchod means some indian shit idk but ignore all indian posters from now on please
>>572928824person 2 made low quality work and got paid for it.so making living wage off your work makes you a pro, regardless of quality?
>>572929638How do you know it is indian? Are you indian? I will ignore you.
>>572929673professional /prəˈfeSH(ə)nəl/A "professional" is someone who earns their livelihood from a specific, specialized occupation.
professional gamedevs can make money from their skills without luck
>>572929731I looked it up. you are allowed to believe what you want to believe btw.
>>572930019how do I know if I'm a gamedev and not a gamerdev?
>>572930210apply for a position at a game company. do you even get an interview?
>>572928657I've been going here for 20 years, sorry you created a new word I don't know yet and sounds dumb.>>572929638Ew, we really need to remove their internet access
>>572930337i wonder if it's harder to get a game dev job or a programmer job these days
play chud's amazing factory
i always ignore shitpost or meme games because they're usually awful and banking on the irony
>>572904965los it's time to give up
>>572929673See Nubby's Number FactoryAnyone can make a living off of something, doesn't mean they have a professional level of work
>>572930659retard
>>572913681most of the devs are either on the fan art black list, personal enemies of mine, AI spammers, whodevs, and demonday griefers.
>>572930613you sound like a tranny
>>572930639they were warm up scribbles!!pyw
>>572916668He literally went insane after his artist left him.I think he realized that everyone was right and that his games lack fun and style and that's why he never GMI'd.
>>572924737>>572927278or this https://chudsamazingfactorym.pages.dev/
>>572931023why is that website blocked here? what did you do?
>>572930717You really think the nubby guy is a pro?
>>572930970
>>572931082Yes
uh oh the AIjeet woke up
prog
I build things because I want to and have been doing so long before I considered getting paid for it. Any tool that can help me do that is good.
>>572931225AI tranny shit
>>572931225>Enemies are frogs and toucans>Play is a cock>Engine is a lizardhmm
>>572931257ludcoping as usual I see, you ludlost big time nodev
>>572931113lololol idk what cope youre on but its a doozysorry lil buddy but you'll never be a pro even if you sell a million!
>>572931503
>>572931340>still no gamesad :)
>>572931340do you want some (you), I know you are addicted.Reply to me and I'll give you anotherUgly troll
Game prototype summited to sexo DD.
nubby's number factory was literally just a random side project some college student made.The absolute truth is without soul you NGMI
s u b m i t t e d
>>572931731ngl seeing a car turn on a single axis is weird
>>572931817godot's fault
>>572930992>his artist left himwhich one? the 3d one? or has the pixel one left too?
>>572933427is it really tho
>>572924645straight up garbage that's what
>>572934019you ludlost
Ok fellow AI Chads.I'm going to be streaming tonight.I only want to stream AI Chad's game. Please tell me which of your games was posted to DD69
>>572934297post twitch and proof
>>572931063I don't know
how come when claude is thinking it always shows me this orange anus symbol?
>"chads">deathly afraid of telling anyone about their "games"wwww
>>572934926it wants your penor
>>572935082post your game, you won't
>>572935176i will as soon as i get more tokens, i'm useless without them
>>572935082i think it's the funniest shit itt.>dude ai chads making so much progress!>dude ai chads make tons of games!meanwhile there is literally no game, just a schizo spam like >>572935176there are literally copypasted repies. even if you posted your game there would be no response, because schizo isn't interesed in responses and conversations, he's only interested in schizo spamming.
>>572934628duh, I'm an AI Chad, you didn't expect any kind of results from me did you?
does the nogame AIchad know that we all use AI in our games? why are you here bro? you have no game!
today claude taught me how to pin a program to the little windows bar, im gonna make so much progress soon
>>572935496here's your you since you are addicted to attention.Post again and I'll reply to youUgly Troll
>>572935391yeah a lot of people use ai to dev, me included, the thing is the schizo isn't interested in that, he's just here to shit up the thread. someone posted screens of him literally admiting it the other day, i forgot to save them.the ai spam is just a tool, he could be spamming anything else. the reason is that he's literally a nodev and he got ultra salty at some point, that's it. that's the only reason for destroying this thread.
>>572934628your local AI should know of me. But of course a dumb luddite like you wouldn't believe me.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2786360/LOLI_RACING/>loli racing>look inside>haggots
>>572935801wow you are right, here's your you for your addiction.Ugly troll
Is gdevelop any good for retards that are incapable of learning to code such as myself?the goal is to eventually make a shitty diablo clone
>>572936829Just make it in godot and use gdscript and AI. Easy as shit to do desu.
The reason I hate the AI spammer isn't the content of his posts,(he could spam anything at all and I'd still hate him), it's that he gets away with breaking the rules that are there to keep threads on track. he can't keep getting away with it!
>>572937010I hate it, because it's literally an unchecked mental issue. People have failed him in life and somehow he has unfettered internet access to ruin our lives. If I ever had a mental breakdown to where I was doing this shit I would hope my family would have the decency to blow my brains out or lock me up from society.
how AI does the output look to you?
>>572937336it sources generic assets for everything else but the man so you can instantly tell
>>572937336verylooks too good for a shitty doodle (check the details of the crate,pier bits, sail bits) and his eye is misaligned
>>572937439>>572937432know any workflows that could go well with this doodle approach?
>>572937131I wonder if he even recognizes that he is mentally ill. or even suspects it. ai bro? what do you do when you are not trying to derail agdg? do you brush your teeth? wash your clothes? have you got anyone who loves you?
>>572937629do the doodling yourself then have ai color it
>>572937131Imagine if society would help people instead of expecting them to help themselves and being surprised when they decide to shoot up schools or rape. just a thought.
>>572936964i tried the free ones give me bugged bullshit in both unity and godot, not to mention i don't know how to fit the puzzles it gives me together
>>572937723get help
>>572769548I want to generate a point and click adventure game in godot with a self insert MC who gets all the hot foxes
>>572937869agentic coding is a completely different experience. AI reads your codebase like it's googling it. it also has memory it updates to keep understanding your project.
>>572937670of course not. go read about it, mentallly ill peoople don't realize they're mentally ill. to them, they're perfectly normal and adjusted.
>>572938207*and it can play your gamefor example, it was testing something, and kept dying while testing, so mid play it edited it to have 999 health and kept testing, then set the health back to normal. just on it's own.
>>572884106Is there one in particular you're referring to?
>>572925281The vast majority, yes. Sometimes I have it spit out an algorithm that would a chore to write up myself, and if I'm working in an unfamiliar area I'll sometimes have it give me a minimal implementation with all the appropriate boilerplate in place for me to flesh out myself. But I never allow anything to go in that I haven't looked at carefully and understood, and by and large I find I can write something myself faster than I could describe it to the AI, have it go do it, and then check over its work to make sure it's as I wanted it.
>>572938449not 'perfect art and code'but this came to mind https://store.steampowered.com/app/4119150/Seina_a_Tale_Of_Spirits/clearly everything is AI, no disclosure though.
>>572938773how long have you been at this project? I was like you for years, but on a new one this year I tried SOTA AI from the start and haven't had to write anything
>>572938842roflmao
>>572938207>>572938357>just use [thing] bro>doesn't explains how [thing] works and where it is so it can be used
>>572938934I've been working on it full-time for nearly two years. I'd originally worked on it for 2-3 months in 2020 and occasionally nibbled on it in the years after that until I was finally in a position to quit and focus on it.I imagine AI-only could work well in plenty of situations, but I think my game involves more unusual and bespoke code than most do, lots of interacting systems and things that need to be written with other not-yet-implemented features in mind. It's not self-contained enough or routine enough for AI coding to be at its best, I would guess.
>>572939064claude code. but any agentic one will do the job. gugurekasu.
>>572939154makes sense. I have an old myst-like unity project that AI would not really help much with, so much is done through events etc through the inspector.
>>572939452wash your penis
Just made a cup of joe. Time to make some proggy.
>>572937336a bitremove the ship in the background and fix the oh god what the fuck is going on with his body why and it looks only somewhat AI
Sub 6 minutes. Eat it!
>>572938973yeah this is like...cmon man its way too obvious
>>572939759>a cup of joe.A what now?
>>572938842It really is obviously AI lmao. Valve doesn't give af
>>572940893kid alert
>>572940958Seethe harder 'dite.People would use the AI disclosure if it didn't cause dumbasses to sperg and review bomb the game.Fucking retarded luddites don't even realize how badly they fucked up by doing that. They could have silently ignored AI games but no that's not enough they have to show their ass and punish devs for disclosing well now you don't get a disclosure. Its your fault.
>>572938842it's obvious the moment you see the 3D models but it gets worse when the AI music starts and the default ass linear interpolation of objects to trade happens and the real gut punch is the AI thought bubblesto give them credit, I bet they used some unity? store assets for inventory management
I accidentally had my alarm on early, and I did everything I wanted to do for dev today before the time I would have woken up normally at.But overall I have to write a bunch and edit it once the section is done.
>>572937010huh??
Collect-a-thon is a childish genre that doesn't fit the adult art. Why isn't this an Action Platformer?
You WILL become the next Toby Fox.
>>572941560>you WILL make cringe millenial slop "No."
>>572941560he made some good music and a compelling story which is more than you can say for people here
>>572942546>compelling storyt'was slop
>>572942647i agree, but people were interested nonetheless. the end result of your game is to make people feel something, and that was achieved.
>>572941239post your game, you won't>inb4 you first
>>572942847
>>572943186>ai screenshotlemao
>>572941560>>572942546Tenna is a better boss fight than everything here and no anon dev focuses on the difficulty to make a better fight.
>>572940893>>572939759Hi I'm Joe.Kanna owes me sex btw
>>572937010Oh and the jannies know btw they just don't give a fuck, but they'll ban me of course.jannies = tranniesdock their pay by 50%
>>572943267Cope
NEW BREAD HAS BEEN BAKED>>572943817>>572943817>>572943817
>>572943186>>572943640and they lieand they lieand they liehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4334870/Evac_Point/
>>572943918>We use generative AI to create certain marketing assets for the Steam store page and promotional materials.lmaooooo so the game pictures aren't even fucking real lololololloolololo
>>572939759>cup of joecaffeine addiction is bad for you.
>>572943852why bake new so early?
Another day. Got my coffee and gearing up for another session of fucking luddites in the ass.
>>572949903yes please
>>572937869The free ones shouldn't give you bugged bullshit unless you literally have no idea what you're doing. For example, just reading the documentation can give you a walking script in 2 seconds. AI can spit that out flawlessly even on the free tier. Regardless, you should never use the free tiers. Especially when the paid tiers aren't expensive.
>>572949903
>>572960041>you should never use the free tierswhat's the matter /biz/let? that stock you got duped into buying isn't so hot any more? btw thanks for financing my recreational 100% free use of AI
>>572963267...what? I don't care about AI making money, that shit is never gonna happen. The free version is just literally shit compared to the paid tier. I use Gemini Pro extended and it's able to shit things out pretty much immediately that I ask of it. If I accidentally hit usage without realizing it and it goes back to flash it's like I'm suddenly talking to a mentally ill 3 year old and it forgets everything.
>>572967197cope & lies & skill issue
>>572968153...what am I coping with? Also what's the lie and there is no skill issue clearly.
>>572848607Thank you for everything. >>572848765 is an impersonator. He's not... entirely wrong, but decidedly rude. While I am aiming for a complex game, of course I'm going to offer guidance to new players in future versions. It's that creating a tutorial depends on a framework I still haven't built in the engine yet (in fact, I was just beginning to work on it when I lost the original build of my game!) but it's a priority before I'm ready to market 18-28-38-48 as a game instead of just a prototype.As for the title, it is an integral part of my vision, and there is a lore reason behind it. I hope I get a chance to explain it in depth someday :)
