is orange lenses the official color scheme for stygies skitarii that I just happened to use or did everyone come to the conclusion it's the only one that looks good with the black robes without being too edgy

Darktide has too many different game modes and difficulty queues for my tastes

>no admech gf
bros....

i know what you did that game, Anon.

>the flesh is weak
>also let's put exposed wires tubes all around your robot body

I hear people here say skitarii is extremely durable but the skitarii consistently eat shit the hardest out of any class in my games.
Skitarii followed by veterans.

I still have no idea how the fuck the Servo-skull works. Why can't I use Noospheric whenever I want? Why doesn't the description mention it needs an enemy you can target? I hate this.

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>>572791440
here are your skitarii players

you ever notice how morrow refers to the servo skulls as "she"? he's definitely fucking them

>>572791440
They feel encouraged to run into melee but they have low health and generally don't have great crowd control

GIVE ME YOUs GIVE ME YOUs GIVE ME YOUs GIVE ME YOUs

someone explain to me how to use the low mag size guns like phosphor pistol/revolver
do you only pull it out to snipe specialists?
what if there's a bunch of them and gunners and you have to reload like 3 times?

>>572791915
One of the first things you need to learn is how to rush gunners and kill them in melee

>>572791916
they should make you play subway surfers for one of these

should i buy hivescum or skitari

>>572792053
obviously i try to do this when it's more confined spaces, but some places there's just a bunch spread out and i don't really want to rush forward and trigger more spawns

>>572792092
I saw a psyker doing great with it in an auric maelstrom.

>>572792092
Yes. You can throw half charged beams for fast horde clear or fully charged beams to wipe out packs of elite enemies. It's very good

Is psykers sword beam a viable way to clear waves at high difficulties? I really like the way it looks
>>572792237
>>572792227
Thanks, I deleted my post because I didnt mean to reply to that guy.

>>572792194
That's the thing, you need to learn to do it in open spaces too. If you're generally slow at killing and distrupting gunners then you will regularly encounter situations where large groups of gunners have gotten into good positions to hose down your team

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post friend codes
i want people to game with

>>572792521
It's better of you just post yours with region and difficulty included

This general might be the most niggerbrained stupid low iq general Ive ever seen in my entire fucking life

>>572793153
Yes we all play Arbiter here.

nigger

>>572792337
yes but it's also one of the most op things in the game so it's an ethical thing to not take it

i'm bricked the fuck up and operating on 3 hours of sleep.
builds fo rthis feel?

Flensing is skitarii's only keystone. The capacitance gain on specialist/elite kill node alone is enough to make flensing better than either of the other two, to a retarded degree.
>b-but the other two have capacitance generation boosts
I recommend you go look up what they do on kuli's guide, then test it in game for yourself. It's literally fucking nothing.

>>572793849
psyker perilmaxxing

>>572793849
hive scum no fent pistol rampage build

Auric maelstroms really are trivial as arbites.
Being invincible sure is great.

>>572793872
True, true

>>572794006
this but ogryn

>>572794048
this but unironically

is attack speed pointless if you're mostly spamming heavy attacks?

>>572795104
yes

>>572795104
no, it affects how fast you charge

>>572795104
partially, it does not affect the speed of heavy attack priming animation before swinging. but it still affects the swing speed letting you chain them slightly faster. less effectiveness compared to light attacks

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The most aggro motherfucker I've ever seen.
Triggers the daemonhost, gets everyone corrupted, goes down, I pick him up, beast of nurgle shows up, I use a med stim on myself because we're both on one wound from corruption at that point, he dies and gets pissed at me I didn't use it on him, still furious at me after I went out of my way to pick him up again later and we won.
I didn't go down, he's the only one on the team that died and went down more than once. The psykers were chill and good though.

>>572791440
Everyone spams toughness curios on their melee builds and then dies to a singular mistake instead of just being sane and taking 3x health and all the (global) damage resist in the tree to become actually tanky.

>>572795104
>>572796376
wait wot so for something like the shivs are u suppose to spam lights even for monstrosities?

I'm returning after a 5,000 year hiatus. The Mortis Trials are nuts, they're kindof fun but I refuse to go below Heresy threat level as the early waves are already boring enough, but I still can't win on my skitter. Waves ~8-12 are harder at that difficulty than Auric maelstroms.

Everything's pretty easy until you get a surge of instagib enemies. Lose one sneaky faggot in a field of sneaky faggots and you're done. And god knows if I go down, these ingrates who needed healing before this point are going down.

>>572791440
Everything about skitarii is like a cold engine that has to get started, which I don't know if that's intentional or just me projecting a mechanical theme onto them. Basically when they are cold they can get kidney punched out of existence in the blink of an eye, but when all of their stacking and over time buffs are going they get really tough and do a lot of damage. Not to mention, they have a great stun immunity node that's super easy to get to, but stun immunity can make you fail to notice when you get damaged-- or it does for me anyway. Sometimes I'll come out of a big fight and go 'oh, huh, I nearly died in there.' when I look at my hp bar.

>>572797636
>take no toughness
>all of the toughness over time skit shits out does significantly less because it's all % based
idk mang I've tried 2x HP 1xTGH and it felt like shit. I've gone through an "HP instead of toughness" phase for arbi, zealot, and ogryn and liked those just fine so idk what it is about skit but HP isn't jiving with me for them.

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I don't want to complain without it feeling like a skill issue but i swear poxwalkers simply phase into reality behind you

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>>572797743
No, the shivs heavy attack kicks ass. He's not saying heavies are less effective than lights, just that attack speed is less effective on heavies than lights.

>>572798004
The game bullshits you like that more than you probably realize.

>>572797968
Personally I think the stun immunity is a dumb talent. Like you said it's good to know when you get stunned, and it shouldn't be happening so regularly in a run that you should dedicate a talent point to it. Much less sacrifice your ult charge every time it happens, which could otherwise be used to get you out of said situation.

So I'm looking into Poxbursters and it seems what actually happens with them is a combination of 3 things.

So the issue is that Poxbursters can ONLY be pushed by the person that the burster is targeting, a vast majority of the time, because
>Poxbursters have a push angle override that lets you push them regardless of where you aim, but only if you're the target (lag compensation measure)
>Poxbursters have a push range override that lets you push them from a very high distance, but only if you're the target (lag compensation measure)
>Poxbursters have a push effectivity override that lets you push them regardless of how much stagger damage you do, but only if you're the target (they did this as a bandaid fix to let smaller weapons push them too, since they're actually pretty stagger resistant)
So in effect it's the combination of these 3 factors that lets you not just fucking push a poxburster.

Btw, lag compensation is Darktide is surprisingly blatant. Dogs literally have code to freeze mid air for 0.2s before they hit you, to give you time to push them even with very high ping.

Just posting this because of the argument last thread about why Poxbursters don't push good. The obvious solution is to enable these compensations for all players, not just the one that is targeted. Fatshark didn't really remember these things apparently so they just did random shit to them to "fix" them.

>>572798258
I agree but it's got 15% flat DR attached to it, and it's right after a toughness regen node that you should pretty much always take. It's a lot of defenses for two points and I really wish the stun immunity would get bumped down to uninterruptible or something, or removed entirely. I feel like one of those people with brain damage that can't feel pain so they end up ripped to shreds or burned or whatever by stuff they didn't even feel touching them.

>>572798378
Good point but you'd really need to be autistic about twitching your eyes down to your healthbar to save yourself from certain situations that otherwise your toughness would eat so you could dodge out of and save yourself from. I'd rather have the visual feedback and a little more damage/toughness some other way, but I'm also a shitter.

>>572798274
I think another factor is quantity. I don't think I've seen any weird shit happen on poxer shoves when it's a single one of them, I'm pretty much batting 1000 on bursters apart from when my enlightened teammate decides to shoot them when they're mid-yeet.

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>>572798769
quite the opposite, I trust in the Omnissiah and just assume my defenses are working properly until I'm startled by suddenly falling over dead from time to time.

>>572799140
You're just not paying attention then, I see that shit happen with solo bursters all the time. Fuckers stumble over and fall, don't detonate, and there's a couple of moments of retard-to-retard communication where me and whoever else is looking at it have to determine if we can safely shoot it or if we need to wait for people to get away and/or just wait for the thing to lunge again to push-kill it properly. It's such a fucking annoying and random stumbling block to the momentum of anything you're doing.

>>572797636
I don't think any number of HP curios on Skit will let you suddenly eat Mauler/Crusher overheads and survive. Stacking toughness gets more use out of the majority of Skit's DR and all that regen for minimizing chip damage. I could see 1HP and 2TGH for some burster insurance, but eh.

>>572797968
> but stun immunity can make you fail to notice when you get damaged
Had this issue in a HISTG last night. Didn't realize a gunner was shooting me from a room away since I was trying to juggle a gorillion special spawns as the last person alive. Ended up eating it to that gunner and needing a second to even figure out what the fuck was damaging me. I hate that the 15% flat DR is tied to stun immunity.

>>572797968
>>all of the toughness over time skit shits out does significantly less because it's all % based
You are taking too much damage. You should make an effort to take less damage.
Classes with massive amounts of toughness generation precisely do not need high base toughness because they're so quick to recover baseline. You're no vet that needs to stay topped up so every point matters. Skitarii are more like psykers in that regard, where going from 0 to 100 toughness is a matter of like 4 seconds or some stupid shit like that, less if you're actively blending poxers.
>how do I take less damage
2-3x gunner resist for a start. Slide more. Push more. Don't stand in the fart clouds. Consider flamer resist if puddles give you trouble.

Extra toughness curios make your talents more efficient only if you exclusively take toughness damage. If you regularly take health damage, it makes your talents stop working the instant your health is empty and you eat shit, because your toughness talents don't do anything while you're down. Toughness curios don't protect you against flamers, bombers, bursters, barrels, a retard aggroing a daemonhost, etc. All of this obsessing over spamming toughness on classes with toughness regen talents is just pure theorycraftsissy bullshit, and the loudest "MUH TOUGHNESS" voices aren't good enough players to even make it work 99% of the time. Which is fine and normal because you have to play very close to perfect to never take health damage. Or you could just concede that you sometimes make mistakes, and watch as the health curios save your ass when you fail to dodge the mutant that then drags you into fire and... you barely take half your health in damage, then shrug off the burster your teammate shot in your face, instead of going down and causing a wipe because you have 3 retards in the team.

>>572799378
I can barely tank 1 mauler overhead from full actually, it's funny.

>>572798274
>since they're actually pretty stagger resistant
u wot. Why the fuck would they ever make that enemy stagger resistant in the first place? Genuine retardation

>>572799480
>You are taking too much damage. You should make an effort to take less damage.
What do you mean? I end games at sub 200 damage taken the majority of the time. Don't turn this into a, "hurr you're bad argument," when I'm talking about why toughness curios are the more appealing option on the class. When you have a good amount of toughness DR and increase your toughness pool, stray hits will take off a lower percentage of your toughness compared to if you had the base toughness pool, and any hits taken in the time between then and fully replenishing your toughness will end up doing less bleed through damage to people who had a higher toughness pool because of that lower percentage. You're also increasing your toughness gains from all "gain x% toughness" talents because x% is bigger with a bigger pool, meaning you're back to full faster. It's the overall better EHP stat for anything besides really big mistakes, two of the three of which (overheads) effectively can't be compensated for anyway.

Stop being such a fucking faggot.

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That seemed pretty far away did I really full aggro it?

>>572799502
Well they do need a little bit of it so not every single stray bullet knocks em down. What's really the retarded part is that they don't just build "always pushes poxbursters" into melee weapon pushes, and instead make it a feature of the poxburster itself that only enables the code when the poxbursters target is pushing.

It's the sort of convoluted spaghetti code shit that, if the dev in charge ever changes, he has no fucking idea what is even going on and won't really be able to fix it without research, which creates tons of technical debt, which is really the name of the game for Fatsharks dev style. Their shit gets more basic and bugged as time goes on because of this.

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>>572799378
It's funny when it happens with a sniper, something about seeing that shot blast through you and not even flinching feels cool as fuck followed immediately by feeling like shit that you just lost most of your HP bar. Whenever it happens it makes me think of this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGRtG-N-Wcs

>>572799480
I'm not totally inexperienced on defense, to be clear, but it's true I kinda prefer the classes that can just wade in there and not have to be so.... delicate about taking stray hits. I was actually told before that flamer/bomber resists don't affect their puddles, just the initial attack they do that spawns them. I keep thinking they should have given Skitarii some fire resistance talent, we are half metal after all. If you want to recommend a full build I'll give it another honest try though-- also in my defense when I went down this "I need more toughness" rabbit-hole I was also trying to make the toughness overflow talent work and I wanted it to give MORE

>advanced combat doctrines still doesn't trigger advanced power management
is it intended? what the fuck

>>572799852
>that they don't just build "always pushes poxbursters" into melee weapon pushes
Don't forget all of the guns in this game that have some variant of a push instead of a flashlight

>>572799480
>>572799804
I'm sorry, anon. I read your replies wrong and swapped up the (you) placement. I am the faggot retard who can't read. I'll go to bed soon, I promise. What are your curios for eating the mauler overhead? Can you actually do it with 3 HP? I thought they did like 300 damage and double toughness damage, but maybe I'm misremembering.

>>572799920
>pistol-whips you for an absolutely anemic, pointless level of damage and stagger
We only have unique and versatile tools on our ranged weapon specials around here, sir!

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>>572800012
>Can you actually do it with 3 HP
I meant with less than 3 HP. Jesus fucking Christ.

im confused
what do any of the skiitari weapons even do bro

>>572800208
the zap and they slap and sometimes they slice trannies in half, what is there to be confused about?

>>572800250
what makes them special individually

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>>572800157
Don't worry, I have some leaked concept art of one of the upcoming ranged weapons from the first weapon DLC. This one's unique special is gonna be a smash hit, for sure.

>>572800302
well you see he has 3 weapons. This may not seem like a lot but they make up for it with how unique they are

The powersword is the 7th powersword in the game
the arc maul is the 5th electric maul in the game
the transonic blades are very unique: instead of having lights for cleave and heavies for overheads, you swap the weapon mode. so you have one moveset thats lights and heavies for cleave and the other where it's heavies and lights for overheads. This is extremely well designed

>>572800609
Finally Ogryns will stop whining about needing more weapons

>>572800624
this feeling i had that they were all the same as what we already had

was right?

I've been playing monster hunter AND tide games lately, and it must've influenced this dream I had.
In this dream I was playing a monster hunter tide game. You had all the monster hunter weapons but it was a first person horde slasher like vermintide, and I used a switch axe and then a hammer. The switch axe did the switch moves in first person and it let me kill a lot of jaggis. And the hammer would let me bonk shit with overheads

Capcom should make this I think

>>572800789
I've long said a dinosaur based tide game would be sick, that's close enough.

>>572800775
kind of, arc maul and power sword don't function like any previous iteration though, so saying it's the "7th powersword" is pointless, it's not like any of the others in how it uses its power mechanic or its attack patterns (they suck dick). It'd be like if tomorrow they decided to relabel the eviscerator as a power sword and then some pedantic fuck starts complaining about the lack of originality in making an 8th power sword.

>>572800789
Sounds pretty sick.
>tide fighting through the level with one weapon (or weapon set for ranged)
>get to monster and swap to a second weapon (set) with a more complex moveset
Would be fun. Almost makes me want to consider re-installing WIlds. Too bad it both ran and looked like shit.

>>572801030
>Too bad it both ran and looked like shit.
They've made some performance improvements. Last time I tried it was a while ago and I still had to tinker some config settings to really squeeze smooth FPS out of it though, but you can google those up from reddit posts if you're the stubborn type who will make your game run smooth come hell or high water.

Everyone is playing Skit in Havoc so im not going to play it :(

I forgot to ask last thread when we were talkinh about inferno staves
How do weapons that can't aim determine what armour they hit against if an enemy has multiple armour types ala crusher or scab raiders?
Do they just hit the chest?

>>572801128
We'll see. Doubt it'd be worse than when I last played, which was before they were willing to be seen admitting Wilds was indeed horribly optimized. Think that was shortly after they added the AT version of the retarded whale that just belly flops. That fight fucking sucked dick.

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>>572790638
what dlc class is closest to ogryn?

>>572799804
kek
>>572799896
>I was actually told before that flamer/bomber resists don't affect their puddles, just the initial attack they do that spawns them
This is incorrect and caused by psykhanium bugs. When you swap your gear around, it very often doesn't fully update, making it very inconvenient to test flamer/bomber resist with the AI toggle (that currently doesn't work). Rest assured that flamer/bomber resist works on their puddles in actual games, you can easily test this.
>I was also trying to make the toughness overflow talent work and I wanted it to give MORE
You can push it to pretty big numbers, it's not terrible. The problem is that you're playing support for 3 mouthbreathing retards which isn't worth it.
>>572800012
>>572800181
I'm not 100% sure, I might've had Shield of Contempt from a zealot? No way to reliably test it because monster spawner's AI toggle doesn't work properly atm. I have 3x20% health curios with 5% toughness on them, 15% global DR, and 30% global DR on toughness break. I imagine that's enough without SoC.

I want to emphasize that I do not even consider building defensively against maulers or crushers. Those just get stunlocked by Electro-Strike Conduit anyway. I only shill health because poorly placed bursters (and/or dogshit teammates) as well as unlucky mutants can just end your run, and health is the best way of preventing that. Besides, a good player definitely doesn't need 200 toughness, or should even feel the difference between 150 and 200. If you want to make the argument that building health is retarded, just take it to the logical conclusion of building defenses being bad, and take stamina curios instead for better clutch potential. That's good too. I just admit I'm not good enough to make it work even as a True Shitter and h40 regular, and I assume most of you guys aren't either.

>>572801319
Arbites

People are wrong to dismiss Advanced Combat Doctrines.
There is a very good reason the Galvanic's ammo count is so low.
>9000 DPS on a plague ogryn
>4800 on crushers
Holy fucking shit.
Only one problem
>could phase skip captains
>but when he's crawling around on the ground ACD locks onto his ass, and cannot lock onto his head until he fully stands up
GET FUCKED, HOLY SHIT FATSHIT, GET SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ONCE

>>572801013
So which of the skiiti weapons is coming out on top?

>>572801320
I'm putting 2x gunner flamer bomber resists on my shit immediately I can't believe I went so long thinking that didn't work.

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>>572801320
I do, in fact, just run 3 of these on skittle.
I think the "contrarian retard builds health on a toughness class lol" build works slightly better on psyker because toughness is the anti-ranged mechanic, and psyker can be completely ranged immune, almost entirely bypassing the need for the mechanic. But you're welcome to use Volatic Emitter at 2 charges, or bring the shitty crutch bubble.

The only class I think more than 1 health curio is truly terrible on, is veteran. Just one with corruption res is good to survive all the AIDS in havoc, but vet is definitely a toughness class that also sadly wants a stamina curio.
I don't really believe in health ogryn being great either, but I've seen a relevant enough number of them owning in h40 to respect it, even if I do not fully understand why they're doing it.

>>572801504
Pic related

>>572801494
Arc Rifle and Phosphor Pistol are amazing. Among the melee weapons, I think Arc Maul is outshined by Shock Maul, sadly, and Transonics will be the most popular skitarii-unique melee weapon. Power sword will be the least by a large margin unless they make it a lot stronger to make up for it's schizophrenic attack patterns.

>>572801620
How married to the 5% toughness are you? Because I was thinking ally revive speed instead.

>>572801742
I'm skipping revive speed precisely because of the skull. I'd want to run a single toughness curio if I drop the 5%, because completely unboosted toughness does feel a little anemic. A generic h40 shooter already rapes my entire toughness bar and chips my health, so I have to be very fucking careful, and losing even more toughness would suck. On which subject, 3 health curios may be slightly sub-optimal in h40 but I'll have to experiment more to say this with any confidence.
It's been the easiest time I've had on skittle in auric tho.
Don't take revive speed into auric please.

So if i understand this right there's zero actual reason to play expeditions on anything but malice. The tech remnants spawn at the exact same rate, regardless of difficulty as far as i've seen

>>572801631
Interesting. Transonics seem cool but I'm not seeing a reason to use the switching mechanic

>>572801946
The only reason is for fun, otherwise you are completely correct.

>>572799896
>It's funny when it happens with a sniper, something about seeing that shot blast through you and not even flinching feels cool as fuck followed immediately by feeling like shit that you just lost most of your HP bar.
kek
Man, I haven't watched Princess Mononoke in fucking forever.

>>572801320
>I have 3x20% health curios with 5% toughness on them, 15% global DR, and 30% global DR on toughness break. I imagine that's enough without SoC.
Probably is.
>I want to emphasize that I do not even consider building defensively against maulers or crushers
Yeah, I only brought 'em up 'cause they're just the only things besides bursters (and Snipers, which I'd forgotten about) that are legitimately worrisome about running 3 TGH curios as Skit. Throw me in a pit with 30 ragers as Skit, and it's perfectly fine with 3 TGH curios.
>Those just get stunlocked by Electro-Strike Conduit anyway
Ain't that the truth. Such a crazy strong node. I almost feel bad sometimes running that and Voltaic 'cause it's kind of like being a walking, swinging smigger.
>If you want to make the argument that building health is retarded, just take it to the logical conclusion of building defenses being bad
Not where I was going. There's absolutely value in taking health, for exactly the things you described. I was just making a case for 3 TGH since the initial post I'd been replying to seemed to be implying that 3TGH won't make you tanky, when in most cases it very much does.

>fatshark refuses to make bots worth anything in this game
>also makes it so players can't join missions that have progress too much sometimes

>>572801954
I spend 90% of the time in strikedown mode on mine, but occasionally you'll see a clear opportunity to switch. The trick to transonics, imo, is both modes excel at heavy spam and have pretty flimsy light attacks. I just prefer strikedown as a default because the push attacks do moves from the alternate mode; you can do two very nice cleaving light attacks from a push in strikedown, which chain into it's X slash heavy attack. So push > light > light > heavy works very well for flimsy hordes while the opposite is less true if you want to use your push to deal with elites from cleaving mode. Their most unique and semi-hidden feature is that the strikedown heavies cleave through carapace naturally.

>>572801620
I need to do this on psyker. All my deaths are flaming a horde and not hearing a flamer rev up behind me because my ears are getting blasted by my own FWOOOSHMMM sfx that I don't notice I'm getting raped by a tpx flamer until it's too late.

>>572801954
Horizontal lights blend everything until you run into a sufficiently tanky enemy and it stalls you. Until you switch to vertical heavy attacks and kill it in 2-3 hits. But that is the special's only niche, and you should continue blending with lights, while sliding with the heavy attack's movement speed boost.
>>572802007
>and Snipers, which I'd forgotten about
Realistically, snipers shouldn't be an issue if you're any decent at the game. I admit I've gotten hit an embarrassing number of times on skittle, but I was also rusty and on strong pain meds when it just came out so I have an excuse. They don't hit me anymore.
>implying that 3TGH won't make you tanky
I do think that this is correct. It just gives you good sustain. Sustain doesn't matter when you get bursted down, and sustain also doesn't matter when you can already reach parity just by taking gunner resist and sliding occasionally.

>>572802152
>>572802234
>semi-hidden feature is that the strikedown heavies cleave through carapace naturally.

shieeet okay thanks

Are the servers shitting themselves? They feel shittier than usual.

>>572802007
>>572802234
noosphere skull is also a fantastic anti-sniper tool, it's laser accurate and the first shot will suppress the sniper, so as long as you can get LoS to tag it, you'll beat it to the draw without having to pull out a ranged weapon.

>>572801262
Please respond saar

>>572801319
Arbites and scum

>>572793872
Redline gives you +2 ability charges which is comfy

>>572802234
>Realistically, snipers shouldn't be an issue if you're any decent at the game
I was juts addressing things which stacking toughness didn't help with. I don't think I've had one hit me as Skit yet, but sometimes shit happens with snipers. Either the prompt doesn't come, it comes too late to react to, or you fuck up and dodge into an object/poxie. Any of those 3 can happen to most skilled players.
>I do think that this is correct. It just gives you good sustain.
It's both. I did explain why it also makes you tanky when I was crashing out after misreading shit earlier. Yes, it helps give you a higher starting threshhold from which to regain toughness after taking a normal hit AND increases the value of % toughness gain nodes, but it's also lowering bleed through damage, which raises your EHP. It's just only raising EHP for all of the common encounters and not things like overheads, snipers, bursters, and mutants dragging you into a puddle of fire. Generally those things are all avoidable, but shit happens, especially teammates not pushing their fucking burster or shooting yours.

>>572801442
nobody gives a shit about yet another "press button to do more ranged dps" ability that's all. The autoaim was gonna make it interesting but it's totally insignificant and bugged.

>>572793872
I think redline is fine if you take the claw, but if you try to stack noosphere on top of that it becomes too big of a capacitance draw. The way I see it, redline is for people who want their ability to initiate a fight, activate buffs, and let them go to town with their melee weapon. Flensing is more for the player who wants to spam their ability and have it solve most of their problems by itself.

>>572801442
I'll stop dismissing it when the auto aim stops making me miss headshots because despite aiming right at their head the shot misses or it locks onto their chest.

>>572798004
They do
It only happens with pre-spawned enemies

>after years went back to weapon specialist shovel + revolver vet with shout
holy fucking kino

>>572802152
I'm in the cleave one the overwhelming majority of the time since you can just slash through everything short of Maulers and Ogryns. I'll have to check out that light combo from the strikedown side tomorrow though. I do hate the time commitment from swapping.

>>572803161
I like flensing claw with my trannies so that probably factors into me worrying less about chaff, I can just swim through it on command if needed

>>572803405
Ah that makes sense

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is this node based or cringe?

>Arc Rifle is supposed to be the strongest ranged weapon on the class
>feels like shit and doesn't seem to do all that much damage
What am I missing? This whole class seems so god damn confusing from front to back. I need a good build just to get my bearings, I think. I genuinely can't figure this fucker out. And half of the mechanics being unexplained without reading a guide is nuts. Fatshark approving that is deserving of mass castration of everyone there.

>>572803575
You are missing the top side of the tree, attack speed effects from either ability, and good blessings most likely

>melee only maelstrom
>play a class that can't permanently stunlock gigarape infinite balls of armor
>wipe at the airlock because all 3 of my teammates have zdps builds and I don't have infinite gigacleave
Why does this always happen? Why don't pubniggers bring actual builds? Why must these fucking sub-humans always require the hardest, most complete and utter carrying?

Shock maul is so fun on Skit. I alt-fire and melt crushers with me and my servitor.

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This fucking part of the tree pisses me off so much, I hate having to pay a tax to get Ablative Motion Routines but then still have to take an alternate path to get to the keystone.

>>572803869
Is the Servitor the Zealot who does nothing?

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>>572803869
psst if you didn't already notice, shock maul actually lets this stack up to full brittleness with it's special attack. If you weren't already aware, the way it normally functions is it only applies once to a non-electrocuted enemy when they gain the electrocution debuff.

I totally forgot Skit can use the devil's claw, has anyone tried that out? I don't think I've seen a single mention of it around the thread since Skit came out.

i miss ctw ranged rending

I caved into friend's demands, downloaded the kusoge and rolled a cute skittle
Exterminator voice, didn't like the flair on the Reverent
I wish they had more cosmetic options though

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>almost done with the stupid auric survivor penance which is proving harder than the auric storm survivor penance
>four poxbursters just instantly kill me from full health/toughness and zero wounds
I'm so tired of getting through 7-9 missions before the game just decides to kill me or my team fails me.

>>572804835
Shoulda had True Grit.

>>572804835
Play psyker and auto push them away
Use your dog

>>572804930
>Use your dog
And watch as it pinballs around until eventually randomly exploding.

>>572804881
True Grit does limit the amount of explosive damage they can deal, but if you're already corrupted, several bursters just corrupt you to death.
>>572804835
Easy to backseat when you're not playing, but your shield flashbang, anon?
Also start using True Grit with health curios so this shit doesn't happen.

>>572801262
Every enemy has a "base" hitzone which DoTs for example use for their calculations. Scab maulers', plasma gunners', and ragers' is flak, which is why they evaporate to inferno puffs despite being kind of tricky for a lot of other weapons with the weakpoint or center mass being carapace.

>>572805086
If I were going for Auric Survivor, I'd probably also want to wiggle my build around to take rebreather for the corruption risks.

>>572805086
I noticed that many arbites for some reason don't really like flashbang, mostly because it doesn't do damage.

>>572805220
It's the only reason to run the shield lol

>>572805246
The only reason to run the shield is it gets High Voltage and Opportunist and together they make it a monster.

Is the Terminus Warrant keystone worded poorly or am I dumb?
It says you gain stacks by killing (max 20) and when you switch you spend the stacks for +##% bonuses but it doesn't say what having more or less stacks does, unless I'm just too tired and missing it or I'm just supposed to assume it only activates on max stacks.

>>572805309
Nah lol
The damage output on it is genuinely mediocre, the only standout is that it has decent pushes. Any other weapon is better as a weapon. The flashbang is why it should be used.

>>572805086
Why would I use that in that situation over a push while blocking.

>>572805384
Because you died.
Dodging back and flashbanging would've made you not die.

>>572805343
It only activates on max stacks if I remember correctly.
But keep in mind switching weapon with ability that changes weapon, won't activate it. So for example if you shield rush into crowd, it won't activate melee buff until you pick your secondary weapon and then switch to melee manually

>>572805471
And I dodged back while pushing, flashbangs take longer than pushes.

>>572805626
Flashbangs have fuckhuge range and throw bursters on their asses, letting you safely shoot them to death.
Have you EVER used it???

>>572805309
Who needs this shit when you can get skullcrusher on a class that flips hordes on their asses

>>572805536
I figured that was probably the case
Good to know about the swapping, thanks

>>572805657
Nta but interesting, I never tried itbon bursters

>>572805657
Only when I'm in the middle of a horde that needs more stun.

I think everyone might be sleeping on the new plasma gun.

>>572806409
Start using it on burster trains, shotgunner clown cars, and mid-range packs of gunners.
You didn't listen to the retard telling you to dump power output, did you?

Why the fuck does disrupt destiny not trigger on teammate kills in coherency.
Why would you create talents that punish teamwork.

>>572806609
I already use it on all of those other things.

Fuck Arbites. They cant do what an Ogryn can. I'm locking down whole sections of gunners with a few Grenade Gauntlet shots. I'm bullrushing into crowds of gunners or chargers that just came around the corner. Every melee attack I have staggers a rager. My shove throws fools to the ground AND taunts. My backdash clears a path through hordes.

I want bitchnigger Arbites and Veterans to put their guns away, stick to my sides and just help clear a path. Because you cant shoot, you dont even have the arc rifle and your grenade usage is horrible. You're shit. I would rather take a chordclaw spammer over these two.

>>572806609
the shield flashbang is good but 60 vs 80 power output is 18 to 20 meter range and a miniscule change in angle.
dumping defences makes your pushes go from 0.7 stam cost to 0.9 which can be pretty significant depending upon the situation

To be fair "flash of light" doesn't intuitively feel like the proper answer to something diving at you and exploding, so I can understand how people wouldn't think to try it.

>>572806825
18 to 20 meters, it also increases the angle which massively increases the overall footprint. Also I didn't say to dump defenses, did I?
You lose only 4~5% net DPS against crushers by dumping penetration, which translates to ... +1 light attack to kill, assuming you're the only one damaging it. Penetration dump's damage loss doesn't meaningfully affect any other armor type.

holy shit buffed gunner ogryn is so fun

>>572806827
It doesn't generally throw other enemies to the ground either. I'm pretty sure even poxwalkers just get stunned.

>>572806958
I'll give it a couple months before retards finally realize that it was overpowered before the cooldown buff (after the ammo buff), and is now actually broken if you use the correct weapons with it.

>>572806604
They're not. Do the math on how many fully charged shots you get.

>>572806604
It is very good against monsters and makes for a nice pocket explosion for when a dense group of enemies is shortly about to become a problem, but that's about it. The leftclick is fucking useless because it has no hopes of hitting any headshot breakpoints.
Hardly overpowered.

>>572807032
yeah i think the ammo thing is pretty big, kind of hard to run out in auric
you can almost have full uptime on the ability with nonstop mag dumping the twin stubbers now too

>>572807076
>do math
No thanks. The ammo economy is not good but vaporizing huge hordes is peak fun and servo skull ensures you are never fully ammo cucked.

>>572790638
On the skit, for the curios

>3 ability cooldown reductions
or
>3 gunner damage reductions

Normally I'd go cooldown, but I saw some claim on youtube that capacitance doesn't work the same way as other abilities, so cooldown doesn't function the same way/isn't worth it

>>572807278
afaik cooldown does work with capacitance, it lowers the threshold needed to achieve a charge. Still, you're going to hate your life if you try running with no gunner resist.

>>572806931
I did the math, it is surprisingly actually a 33% increase in effective area. I'm still not too keen on dumping penetration though, the weapon needs all the help it can get when it comes to damage output and dps or hits to kill often gets very murky in real game situations with all the buffs and debuffs flying around

>>572807360
For clarification, I basically only play on Heresy

>>572793153
Idk man I've been to owg

>>572807524
>dps or hits to kill often gets very murky in real game situations with all the buffs and debuffs flying around
It really doesn't. You just do the light-heavy overhead spam into their heads. You didn't forget to bring Soulguilt + TtW, did you? If you're that desperate for damage, those 4% from high penetration won't make the difference, compared to going full rapeblender mode with BTL + Arbites Vigilant, even with the shield's otherwise middling damage.
I've been doing just fine in fucking havoc 40 of all places, and I dump penetration, and don't run BTL or AV.

>someone goes down in the first 60 fucking seconds
>open menu to block them
>globe next to their name

just about every single time.

>>572807626
cooldowns will be fine, but if Heresy is actually a challenge for you and not just "I'm chillin and stomping everything to death", then a gunner resist or two is still a fine idea. Skit is weak to gunners because of its low toughness.

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>>572807760
I have all the good damage nodes and I usually pair shield with btl
my last h40 with arbites was a fuckfest and I actually ended up being one of the biggest damage dealers simply because I stayed alive the most and it was with a shield I dumped power output on which does color my impressions a bit
but even in that game I did feel like I was doing very poor damage into elites, I might try dumping penetration and going back to the super greedy high voltage + opportunist combo instead of the high voltage + hammerblow that I was using that game

>>572807786
Yeah, it's just a preference for low stress play. In that regard, does the damage reduction apply to the damage done to toughness. I thought it was just reducing health damage.

>>572808019
I don't actually know, but I didn't mean it to preserve your toughness necessarily, just that with low toughness you will be taking damage from gunners very fast as they chew through it and into your health.

>>572807912
>but even in that game I did feel like I was doing very poor damage into elites
That's just how the shield is. Unless you run BTL + AV, the damage output isn't impressive. It's always going to be perfectly mediocre.
You struggled either because your team was shit, or because you were bad at protecting them. I wasn't there so I'll just assume it was the former. BTL is pretty good at keeping retards safe after all.
>the super greedy high voltage + opportunist
That's hardly greedy. The shield already has enough impact all on its own that you don't need hammerblow, ESPECIALLY coupled with Forceful. Flashbang should be enough burst stagger when you need it, and when that fails, you can always choose to bring the shock shotgun. But you said you run BTL so you shouldn't need extra impact whatsoever as your ability should just solve it.

>>572808140
i'll give it a go then, thanks

>>572807278
Both? Don't tell me you're taking measly +5% toughness.

>>572807786
>same as scum and psyker and 5 lower than arbites
>low toughness

>>572808373
No I take the increased ordo dockets because I'm a peasant

>>572807912
I didn't even know it has hammerblow, I wonder what it can do now, lol

>>572808594
What do people even spend Ordos on? Gambling weapons with the perfect rolls?

>>572808625
Buying color weapons to sacrifice for masteries

>>572808469
those three classes generate toughness by existing
skit has a lot of toughness gain over time nodes that give a nice trickle but you will likely need to pop an ability charge to get toughness back quickly in bad situations and can get completely shit on in if things are really going badly since their stamina regen delay is worse than all three of those and they don't have good speed buffs/bonuses like scum or psyker
transonics are decently fast though

>>572808891
Is it worth getting stamina regen then instead, or at least one +3 stam curio?

Which chainaxe mark should I run on rampage scoom? Is one straight up better than the other even?

>>572808981
Better to get stam perks on your weapon for that at least your melee

>>572808469
Yes? They are low toughness classes. It matters more to Skitarii because the other classes have better tools for mitigating or outright negating gunner damage.

>>572808981
their regen speed itself is fine, it's the delay which will end up fucking you because you won't get back stamina while dodging and sliding around.
I've played with a good skit who likes to take the 10% stamina on dodge talent since it has no internal cd. Using a stamina curio takes away a bit too much from your survivability I feel.

>>572808625
curios

>>572791427
>the flesh is weak
>also I die to crusher overheads

>>572791916
If fatshark locked in we could have had captchas for these on april fools.

>>572791427
Mechanicus is running with trash tier cybernetics compared to what was possible in the DaoT

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>speed test claims 450kb download speed
>darktide totally unplayable
>40mb update 15 mins+
>helldivers 2 feels perfect and lagless
I'm gonna tear my ballsack open with my fingertips like a plastic bag

>>572791916
Bet you regret trash talking the hacker skull now, smart guy.

>>572809407
Still pretty sure I'd do even the more complicated captchas faster than most the symbol set finder one.

>>572808981
Stamina regen doesn't really solve high stamina regen delay
Skit and psyker are the only classes I don't run stamina curio on, actually

>>572809074
>Using a stamina curio takes away a bit too much from your survivability I feel.
*laughs in x3 stamina curios*

>>572809708
Two I can understand, but three is such a waste, you're better off slapping sprint efficiency on somewhere
>inb4 three sprint efficiency on curios and one on weapons

>>572809806
I really only do it on deadshot vet and scum

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TRANSPHOBIC ATTACK

Why does chordclaw do so much damage universe wise

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>Watch Darktide YT personality
>UI cheat mods
>Combo scipts
Does anybody actually fucking play this game?

chaos spawn is absolute ass cancer

>>572810202
Press 1 and hold rightclick

>>572810193
yes, plenty do. You just watched one shitty youtuber, that doesn't represent everyone.

>no way for arc nades to replenish in the skill tree
FATSHART

>>572810274
>One
It's fucking all of them from the dozens I've watched

>>572810179
Lorewise that's just how it is. In fact it should do more than it does in Darktide. In the game it's just like a robot rip and tear claw, but in the lore it's like some organically harmonic charged device which, even just a touch, causes the target to turn into a fountain of gore. Though IIRC it has to make contact with flesh, doesn't work on inorganic material

If you post really often your captchas become simpler
Mine are pick the odd one out of 3 shapes every time on vg and it takes like a second

>>572810335
That still doesn't represent "anybody". Why get anal about some jagoffs that play like that?

>>572810541
Because these are the people new players watch and are going to emulate.

>Oh this faggot has this mod, I need that!

how come every weapon i get from brunt is 320?

>>572810615
That's a huge leap of logic. Are you sure you're not just angry for sake of being angry right now?

I'm saying who cares; you and I, and others here and elsewhere do play normally. Who gives a shit if some shitters need handicaps.

>>572810193
I havent seen a single darktide inceleb bozo that doesnt use cheats out the ass thats why I liked that korean chick when she still streamed, I only have mr jap man left

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>>572810741
It doesn't bother you that these people who brag about how they're high end Havoc players and act like the spearhead of the playerbase, and whom FatShark actually listens to, just cheat their way to that level?

>>572810950
No, I play Heresy and kill Heretics for the Emperor. I'm here for fun, not the flex.

Uh oh. The bait tranny is back

Keep in mind that this whining about mods is all purely bait

>>572811191
>Uses mods

>>572798769
Take the "overcharge transfer lattice" talent from the upper left of the voltaic tree. So long as you're not fucking up more than once every 15 seconds, then any enemy that manages to shank you once is going to get electrocuted before they can get a chance to shank you again.

>>572811235
>is a tranny who literally does nothing here but troll for attention

>>572811191
>whining about mods is all purely bait
Could be some ESLgroid who is naturally too retarded to follow simple instructions and is jealous of mod users. Could be some retard who can't figure out how to troubleshoot bugs and crashes.

>>572811350
I know him. It's bait

>>572811335
Stop being obsessed with someone to the point you're projecting them onto me. And stop cheating with "health" mods that reveal all specials in a crowd from 50 meters away, and AOE markers, and combo scipts.

>>572811426
Start killing yourself

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>Glanced at the Gunner
>Covered by smoke
>Nobody marked them
>My totally not cheating healthbar mod just happened to mark them for me
You do not belong in Auric if you use this shit. You're a seething, projecting tranny if you argue otherwise. You have the game sense of a rock and need mods to get anywhere.

i'd use the fucking mechanicus power sword IF IT HAD MORE FUCKING DODGE LIMITS

>>572811591
*uses cheat mods*
u mad faggot?

>>572800208
>arc maul
has a power meter that builds up over time. Weapon special activates shock mode. Attacks while in shock mode will electrocute things
>M power sword
This power sword is always turned on. It has a battery meter like the shock maul. The weapon receives passive buffs depending on how full that the battery is. You can use weapon special to drain the battery by a percentage and inflict a single empowered attack.
>transonic blades
high cleave swords that swap between stances that are predominately horizontal and predominately vertical movesets

ranged
>Galvanic rifle
Makes plebbitors soi out over the *space ping*. Arguably undertuned.
>arc rifle
it's like a light machinegun, but accurate and electric. Shocks things. Can chain to multiple targets.
>phosphor pistol
revolver sidegrade. Has a speedloader. Applies a special white phosphorous debuff that helps everyone damage targets faster.

>>572810659
answer this

>>572811912
Phosphor mogs galvanic in every aspect it's insane

ough im electrocutinngggg, im voltaicinggg

>>572810950
>they cheated their way to havoc 40 with mods!
no, they cheated their way there by getting True Survivor when everyone else got it when it first came out, and now they can get an easy in with a team of 3 carries any time.

>>572812127
the declined

Literally just add a node that lets you replenish the arc nades, what the Hell man

>mods are cheating

>>572812307
Shitters will use literally any and all excuses to cope about never ever being a True Survivor

i haven't re-installed any of my mods since the update broke them all, now i'm playing vanilla, and there is really zero difference. the game runs a bit better so i haven't bothered putting mods back on. the only one i miss is the one that lets you see in lights out. i had many.

>>572800208
>Arc Maul
Over time there's a slide meter on the Maul that's how much charge is on it. Activate to make it deal shock damage that arcs. You'll see little square flashes on the meter letting you know the power is draining. Once drained, it's a normal maul I think

>Mechanicus Power Sword
It's a sword that's always on, but if you tap the special button, you have a empowered stab, and a empowered heavy stab, if you hold it. But the normal click to light, hold to heavy stuff, that's EMPOWERED by just not using the meter at all.

Which begs to ask what's the point of it?

>Transonnic Blades
Become the Skitty Weeaboo. If the lights are dancing forwards, you're in crowd control mode for dealing with hordes. press the special button to change the blades' frequency to dueling (the lights are dancing towards the hilts).


>Galvonic
Space M1. Aim at dudes, click on dudes, dead. Very simple, very satisfying.

>Arc Rifle
I agree with the other anon, it's like a LMG that you pour into enemy crowds. Lots of zapping, though I don't get how the gun actually works

>Phosphor Pistol
Think that big revolver some classes get, now give it a speedloader. There's also a passive where it turns nearby units white to indicate weakened armor, but honestly you can just use this to pop distance nerds and you're fine.

Named my skittles Electrocutie
How much did you cringewince from that

>>572812414
to add to my own post, you only needs mods if you have a learning disability. they're a QoL thing otherwise that becomes completely useless function wise. I think guys like mister estrogen are legit retarded for needing something like an explosion radius indicator. but they aren't cheating. its just something you would know after enough time playing.

>>572812307
This isn't cheating? >>572811591

Just a mod that auto-marks enemies for you through all obstructions?

>>572812571
nta, I genuinely cant tell what the mod is

>>572812571
>hmmm, bullets appear to be flying at me from this direction, the noise is also coming from this direction

the mod helps the retarded. i wouldn't need it to know there's a gunner there.

>>572812307
They are unofficial 3rd party software which give a player an advantage/information that the developers never intended them have.
So yes, by definition it is cheating.
>but le pve gaem
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.
It's sad that you don't know the difference.

>>572812307
Yes
Showing range of explosion, is cheating
Showing cd until dog jumps, is cheating
Mod highlighting elites and marking specialists, is cheating

>>572812669
it's the healthbar mod, and yeah it works through walls

>>572812306
You will steal the Scum's grenade pickups and you will be happy accomplishing a fraction of what his rocket/pozz bomb can do.

>>572810193
>watching influencers
Worse than cheating at a video game

what are some weapons you like anons
(in darktide of course, no other coop game exists)

>>572811912
>*space ping*
I fucking wish, it doesn't ping at all!!!

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>>572808990
please ;_;

>>572811912
>>572812468
Thanks for the dummies guide

/twg/ taught me mods=cheats and I trust them

>>572808990
The light attacking one (IV I think?) with 3x3 stamina curios and the attack speed talent.
Attack speed scales poorly on heavy attacks, so you want to never have to make one.

>>572813909
I'm assuming that's the mark that has "rev effect" on lights, right? Do I just light spam everything, hordes, ragers, armour, bosses?

>>572813995
>Do I just light spam everything, hordes, ragers, armour, bosses?
You can occasionally do a revved attack if you have time, and should obviously push sometimes, but yes that is the gist of it. If you ever need to make a heavy attack for anything other than opening a fight, you're gimping your attack speed.

>>572812468
>though I don't get how the gun actually works
you shock people, thats really about it
https://youtu.be/MRCSz0cnUuE?si=IXtp_bkRUMV8cx8A&t=7

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>Arbites wear carapace armor
>The the same shit that space marines and sob wear(albeit unpowered)
>have 150 toughness

>>572814691
Power Armor is a tier above carapace, which itself is a tier above flak

>>572814691
>The the same shit that space marines and sob wear
Ceramite...

>>572814691
No, they use Ceramite.

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If there isn't a patch next week adding specialists to the trigger conditions for this, I will find fatshark's buried surstromming and leave it out for the birds

>>572813452
the knife never gets old on any class, mobility is king

>>572815123
i dont think this will ever actually matter

>>572815340
get the uptime mod and tell me if you think it matters then

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So with the right build, I can essentially have a chem bomb every few seconds? Am I getting this right? I just want a somewhat fun bomb build without dipping into vet

>>572815707
Yeah, depending on how long your CD on the stimm is, and how fast you can kill enemies, preferably with toxins. If low enough, you can have it near permanently with toxic saw for example

>>572815707
Yes, but it's a very weak way to play compared to rampage

>>572815853
neat
>>572815947
fuck

>arc nades build not viable
>refraction emitter sucks
>stuck with a claw or spamming lightning
thrilling

>>572815974
Don't worry, anything goes in Aurics
Those buffs being team-wide with such a good uptime are busted

>>572815623
no, do you need it because its not really going to affect your breakpoints in a meaningful matter because youre mostly headshotting which usually kill them there

>>572811591
Regular healthbars mod doesn't do that, it only shows damaged enemies
I too believe Alf's mod is cheating. would still run it if it didn't tank performance

>>572815623
>uptime mod
neat I didn't know that existed, side question: Is there any mod that can give me data on effective toughness given to the team? I'd love to get some real measurements on the effectiveness of the toughness overflow talent and the toughness regen aura.

What is it so typical fucking Chink players, especially ones with only numbers in their name being retards? Multiple times hoarding ammunition box and medic pack til the end of mission. They don't even give a shit about doing obj either.

>>572815020
>>572814858
Carapace armor is regularly made of ceramite plates.
>>572814841
Space marine power armor is better because it's powered armor made to be worn by a giant superhuman, making it disproportionally thick relative to even human-scale power armor.
>>572814691
The thickness and coverage of unpowered carapace armor means you're not a walking tank like a space marine would be to a couple lasguns and dull knives, just a lot better than flak armor.

>>572816215
Chinks in general are fucking dogshit at pretty much any multiplayer game, except for maybe top 0.0001%
There's a reason they consider literal cheats normal and gachashit is the most popular genre over there lol

Also, they've been literally seething at white people because they can clear H40 better than them, they literally made up our havoc being somehow different and thus easier, it's all on the forums lmao

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The braced autogun feels amazing to use with the auto aim ability.

>>572816129
The servo skull keeps the buff active

>>572815707
It's not nearly as good as a blitz, it has tiny range, doesn't leave a puddle, and activation is delayed. But it works in choke points if you can hold your ground (which scum can with his immense stamina)
But that's not how most people play scum, everyone plays like a crackhead zooming around instead of holding ground. This build requires a specific playstyle.

>>572814691
>space marines wear carapace
You goofed this one up, buddy

>>572816571
not talking about uptime, its trivially easy to maintain on higher difficulties

>>572816875
Retard

>>572815707
Booby Trap should be renamed to noob trap because that's what it is. Crate spam is useless dogshit. Your stimm will suck ass, so sharing it doesn't matter, buffing your auric shitter teammates is pointless because they're dead weights anyway, Booby Trap's damage is negligible, and you're wasting your entire ability slot on doing effectively nothing when you have two borderline overpowered abilities right there.

>>572817012
i know you like to diffuse situations with self deprecating humor, but that has nothing to do with how a 20% damage isnt really that valuable on skittari because the weapons are good enough that you can spend the point elsewhere

>>572817012
>zap an elite
>get a stack for 6 gorillion seconds
>occasionally repeat this
>noosy skull also grants stacks
NTA but where is the lie? I find >>572815123 to be absolutely trivial to maintain max stacks with.

>>572817252
This. If you want to "chem bomb" more often than a chem grenade, take tox blinders with the talent that does more damage to staggered enemies. It's a regenerating get-out-of-jail free card that will also wipe horde enemies and significantly soften up elites and you don't have to brick your ability slot for it.

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Is this just shit on assail?

Are you lore chungus or funny chungus when it comes to naming characters?
Post character names you found cool or funny
I know you won't post your own names, pussies...

>>572799816
>Willingly playing lights out
Why.

>>572817639
I've never even tried it because I can tell a meme build when I see one

>>572817639
It's part of the puzzle to make assail actually really strong, the ability is just always kind of bad against armor so stop throwing it at armor.
The other parts are crit stacking, the peril = cleave node, OBVIOUSLY the supporting nodes, and a splash of Scrier's Gaze. Oh and ranged and warp damage but that should be obvious.

Assail's overall utility just tends to be somewhat limited. It's great at deleting large numbers of unarmored enemies, but that is about it. It's not usually worth heavily investing into unless you're penance grinding, and sparse investment on it lets it clear out poxer hordes. If you want a 1-pointer blitz, just run smite instead, it's still occasionally useful for holding down large masses of armor. Or brain burst with the passive pop, for 2 points.

>>572817336
>no u!
Concession accepted

>>572817819
you literally didnt address anything said, im sorry i stole all your izzat

>>572791427
>exposed wires tubes
those are for vanity purposes
what's the point of crossing the crux mechanicus if you can't show off how much sacred tech is in you

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>>572817791
this is what you take if you want to use assail
everything else is unimportant

>>572791618
I think it's a military thing to refer to equipment as ladies

>>572818013
>everything else is unimportant
If anything, pathing through peril cleave is a meme because it's virtually useless for literally every other application that isn't assail. You only take that if you're committed to assail. Don't start whinging about melee cleave either, it's a borderline useless meme stat outside of assail.
Empowered Psionics gives it a fucking humongous boost in targets hit, and the on elite kill node lets you spam out shards like crazy if you're firing them into gunners. Crit stacking helps immensely because assail has good crits.

>>572814858
>>572815020
Carapace armor is often made from ceramite.

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Can you resist the call of 3 charge chorus?
Assume you have the 20 second grenade generation.

Does darktide actually have a problem with enemy sound effects or is my friend just a shitter with bad hearing

>>572818509
it happens on maximum density moment mostly in aurics/maelstrom/havocs, game cant keep up, so sometimes ye but real players dont really on audio clues but implement the regular 360 spin to, you know, look if something is there

>>572818509
yes, im pretty sure that only so many audio cues can play at a time, so if a bunch of specials spawn, you might not get all the cues

>>572818209
NTA but people keep saying cleave is a meme stat. Well I like cleaving, gosh darn it, is there anywhere I can see like actual numbers to convince me otherwise?