>skit editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>572790638>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived.https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2 (check /vm/ for general)Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
get off skitarii, it's my turn to play him
I've yet to run flamer and medicae together, how clunky is it to send out the medicae bot instead of accidentally sending out a flamer?
I just don't trust this game.https://streamable.com/9acwvb
>>572873081No :3
>>572873098based on the guy I saw try to do a cheeky from the floor below and through a chainlink fence revive who then sent out the flamer at nothing instead, very
>>572873098went in blind and tried it as did a friend day 1. Really bad. Unless you are perfectly on target, the flamer gets sent out and they use the same grenade charges. It's easier to pick 1 and do the penances for it, then swap and repeat before deciding which you want.
I need the Skitussy...
>>572873098It's awkward, you kind of have to hold the button a lot more often to double check which one you're getting, else you end up throwing out accidental flamer skulls on most of your revives.Blame consolegroids for forcing such retarded input schemes.
>>572873496Game is working fine. You didn't hear that silent burster? Fucking skill issue
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the absolute insanity i've witnessed in today's auricsherding drunk russian weekend arbiters through ventilation purge is a special kind of hell
>>572875065Thanks for the reminder to get some cbd treats for my dog so she doesn't freak out too much tomorrow
>Trigger Warning<HeresyI would like a female-only Beastmen Mercenary as a playable class to be the foil to the male-only Ogryn we have. She needs to have a very animal like face with horns and massive tits, tail, and hooves maybe that constantly makes the other classes besides Arbs and Skitties stutter and blush and have a sassy black woman voice
i am playing rupture psyker
They should rework ogryn's skilltree again.
>>572875507++ Report To Commissar ++
>>572875507Furfags are a blight.
>>572875530I go rupture and flame staff because the flame poofs also detonate headpops and I can use the head burst to snipe heavy gunners when in a defensive position :)
everytime i land on the no-lights mission type I want to scream
does /coopg/ ever play inhouses at all?
>>572876205no, unlike literally every coop game splinter general, everyone here is terrified of posting codes
>>572875550They should let Ogryn pick teammates up and throw them
The mask stays on.
I wish there was a tutorial for the hexbound daemonhosts so nooblets know you don't have to speedrun over to them if you're fighting the lieutenants.
>>572877624We got shirtless ogryn, when's shirtless/maskless skitty
>>572878015
>>572875507god damnit man you started off so good but then it all went to shit halfway through
this was a lie
>>572878719Yep
>the new mechanicus power sword will focus on stabbing attacks :)Oh cool every stab sword does very good damage!>not this one :)))
>>572875507who's this swamp demon
>>572875065Cute!
Give me a rundown on Sienna's staves, because I do not think I know how to use them effectively. I thought I'd like the bolt staff, but it doesn't actually seem to do much damage and requires multiple headshots to take out single stormvermin.
>>572875478It's weird that those actually exist. I know what they are and I get it. But still, weird.
>get the class>settle on voltaic, arc maul, phosphor>venture around to all the other builds trying to make something more powerful, easy to use, or as entertaining>finally return to voltaic + arc maul>do this in an auric maelstromyeah nah, voltaic + arc maul is skitarii, he's bad at bosses this way but the crowd control and wide spread death are too good to argue withit'd be like telling the flame psyker he's bad at bosses, who the fuck caresthis was without noosphere btw, before someone says "ur servo skull did half of that damage XD"
Any tips for leveling Skitarius? He crumples like paper and I'm not used to having to defend myself instead of flailing with ogryn and arbite
>>572880881Just shoot the bosses with your arc gun and noos skull
>>572879407Fireball staff; Best for a spammy pyromancer with minimum charge fireballs. Just for fun Battle Wizard with Volanic Force for big fireballs.Mobile, good damage against most things, relatively effective in weaving into melee to clear out rats.Beam Staff; Sienna's fastest special removal with 2-3 quick taps of the beam-explosion. Holding the beam on the monster for stacking burn damage.Cone attack for crowd control and killing.Pyromancer likes it for easy special killing (extra crits make it a little smoother in Catacylsm) and the spammable cone attackUnchained likes it for quick and safe heat management of the cone attackBattle Wizard special considerations, Famished Flames provides high single target burning by holding the beam down, but loses out on direct beam-explosion damage (You will need to learn the appropriate amount of time to hold the beam on the special to kill it, no need to hold it until it dies just enough to burn it out). Has one of the highest burn damage for Lingering Flames, but doesn't really synergize with it that well beyond that.Bolt Staff holds the niche of being able to damage chaos warriors. Pyromancer likes to spam bolts and let the crits do the workBattle Wizard has access to Volcanic Force for reaching Special and stormvermin one-shot breakpoints in cataclysm.Conflagration staff; the control staff. Battle Wizard with Volanic Force on Legend can one-shot horde trash for a fun nuke on a stick.Pyromancer works it the best by simply spamming the circle to stack burns and stagger elites. Though not the strongest option.Coruscation Staff; Strong dlc staff out of the boxPyromancer gets to spam both ends of itUnchained likes it for heat management and fire and forget extra damage while you meleeBattle Wizard can use it but the damage of flame pillar itself does not benefit from her various talents, only the initial explosion cast and the ending explosion.
>>572880931
>>572880931Maybe learn better melee instead of wailing around? Stick with your team? Just take the fail as any thing still levels you up (and even with good teams, bad luck still happens)
>>572881734Finally the forgotten Flamestorm staff; Suffers from a lack of range and being too good at killing hordes depriving your teammates of thp. No one really takes this outside of gimmick or fun runs.Oddly the most effective staff for Lingering Flames, as it applies a very fast ticking burn which puts it at the top for dps. So just sweep across the enemy, and back to melee. Battle Wizard can also teleport to mitigate some of the lack of range issue.
>extended weapon customization STILL hasnt been updated or have any of its bugs fixedi just want a scope on my recon lasgun for pete's sake
an fun police crybaby who never touched havoc
Finally got all the penances except the "play X missions" ones. Now i can actually play the class.
>>572878902No, no, anon. It's really great. You see, you have to sit there and edge your attack for a few seconds to build up stacks of Thrust so that you can do good damage. Everybody loves Thrust! It's literally free damage with no downsides!
>>572882123I think it's a positioning or awareness thing since I keep getting surrounded and am not managing the push stagger windows well. It leaves me getting my health chipped away over the course of the level and inevitably going down or just getting oneshot by a mauler or rager that's caught me stuck in the mob. Partly me not using Chordclaw initially since I didn't understand how incredible it is but I think I'm just not playing the class right in more ways than that.
>>572882689>never touched havocjust like how you've never touched a woman
>>572882621>STILL hasnt been updated>June 27What'd they break that a June 27 patch is unusable?
>>572882901funny that your mom says otherwise
returning to darktide after dropping it a while agoare any of the DLC classes particularly fun or should I just not bother with them?
>>572883310they're all fun
>>572880931take arc maul, put hammerblow on it. it will interrupt ragers and maulers as you flail around. Throw confident strike too if you want to flail around even more.I also recommend dipping up all the way to Overcharge Transfer Lattice to aoe electrocute when hit in melee, it'll protect you from those enemies that manifest behind you or otherwise get a lucky hit in.
>>572883310Yeah they're cool
>>572876205I've played with some people from here before. They tend to be competent, if a bit mercurial in nature.
arrgh twice now two niggers have joined my lobby, died immediatelly by getting knocked off the ledge in clandestium gloriana and left.Fuck you!!! Fuck youuu!!!!!
What's a funny name for Skitarius? I tried "MicrosoftTechSupport" but that doesn't fit into 18 characters.
>>572875507Based?
>>572883728thanks
>felt like I had a good handle on the game after a few games of vet now, can survive hordes alright>switch back to psyker just to see how I do>EVIL RAPE NIGGER factory if a gunner even looks at me>RAPIST 5000 MACHINE activates if 2 poxwalkers hit me>also my flame staff takes like 5 seconds to kill any specialI think I simply do not like psyker, maybe it feels better when you're facing 500 crushers to spread burn stacks but I'm feeling miserable on damnation
>>572884245I saw a guy called Windows7-STC-MKXVII or something like that and I thought it was quaint
I can('t) believe they didn't fix skull's shots getting absorbed by the dome and blocked by smokes before fucking off to vacation.
>>572884514Try melee psyker instead of that flame staff bullshit. There's not nearly enough enemies in damnation to get the real value out of it.
>>572884667>bro just shriek to delete hordes trust>Yeah I think I'm getting scammed by havoc players, the build hinges around there being specials to die for soulblaze I think
Is there like a save file editor for VT2?I really do not want to level all these classes to 35.
>>572883113my mom says video games are for losers
>>572881734Thanks for the reply, this is really helpful.
>>572884873Correct, flame staff is exclusively for havoc spam. It's a really weak niche build outside of that.
>>572885691That leaves me with 0 usable staffs which kind of blows (I know about electrostaff m1 spam but that's not videogames)Time to finally level arbitrator or something
>>572885792Any of the staves are plenty usable on damnation.
>>572885792Voidblast is an excellent all purpose staff. Basically never need to put it away. Primary fire suppresses and dismantles ranged.Secondary juggles melee elites as you break them down.Add soulblaze and some extra crit to burn out the trash while you juggle the melee elites to death.
>>572881734>>572882128You're still forgetting the Soulstealer staff, which is only available to the Necromancer. The primary fire hits multiple targets with the projectile traveling from enemy to enemy, while the secondary fire locks onto a single target much like the psyker's brain rupture blitz in darktide. The primary is good for taking out chaff, while the secondary deals good damage against elites.
>>572886267Sofia please we're discussing Sienna here.
>>572884896Nevermind, the hitboxes in this game are beyond fucked, everything has a ds2 level shock wave and a reach of 40x the size of the weapon. I can't believe H40s are more enjoyable than this shit
>>572885792bruvva try the critmaxxed electro staff buildjust spam the primary fire into everythingit's an extremely strong build and you also have so many movement buffs that you're also simply faster than almost all of the enemies
>>572886610There are no i-frames at all in VT dodges.For better and for worse.
>>572885792Like my dude just fucking try it. I've never been more enamored with a psyker build than that.
Think I might enjoy Havoc if it wasn't the gunner/reaper clownfest. I just wanna hit things man wtf is this. It's like a reverse CIVI.
>>572886714I have honestly lost count the amount of times I have correctly spaced an overhead or chaos spawn attack. see it fucking land not even in my post code. and I still take the full damage. All my muscle memory of darktide has just completely fucked me because I just expect when an attack doesn't land within the same state I'm in, I am not going to take damage. I have tried hosting to fix this issue but it just seems to be the hitboxes rather than latency.
>>572886894don't forget 60% reduced ammo pickups so you just have to sit there and take it like a good boy :)
how do i play arbites
>>572886671you mean spam primary fire while holding down the secondary, right?
>>572886894>havoc going well>all of a sudden, 10 cranial reapers immune to stunyay I love this thank you fatshark very cool haha!!!!
>>572887229switch minion tagging to single clickhit things with your maulshoot things with your shotgun
>>572886894Yeah it's pretty gay
>>572887229trust the dog
>>572886038Not really, you misunderstand. While people turn around and activate R4P1ST MODE as skitarii or just gun shit down as vet I need to juggle elites around for them to die, it's frustrating
>>572887339Not him but no, the build is literally ignore the m2 (long charge high peril shit damage) and just throw little balls at thingsThat's the state of psyker staffs
>>572885154Your mom is right and you should listen to her
>>572887339No, I mean just spam the primary fire. The charged secondary fire is only useful for a few things, such as opening up bulwarks' shields and electrocuting dogs that are usually hard to hit with the primary fire since they keep running around. For everything else you just spam the primary fire at their heads. The dueling sword can be switched to a combat blade, because it's mostly there for the sprint speed, but bear in mind it also has a parry which comes in handy from time to time.
>>572887346>switch minion tagging to single clickhow do you do that
>>572888031it's in the options menu where you can choose keybindingsI think
>>572887343I do this and look like this
>>572886671shit build
>>572888295I hate reapers so fucking much I detest that they have fucking perfect tracking no matter what when they should've been the enemy that just beams down a direction without thinking too much because they're dumb fucking ogryns.
>>572888540btw I'm trans
>>572879407Just noticed darktide is on sale for 10 bucks. Finally, an appropriate price to pay permanently holidaying swedes. Just wanna check a few more things, have the base game classes been powercrept by the DLC classes like vt2, are there any base classes regarded as one of the strongest classes on the highest difficulties, and are the highest difficulties gated behind DLC?
>>572880881>phosphor in the build>"bad against bosses"Just blast them.
fuackkkkkk tranny blades have no dumpstat like mobility which are you supposed to take the 60% on
>>572889528YesYesNo
>>572889528noyesno
>>572889672Achieve the true greatness of a 76 percenter or dump cleave efficiency
>>572889672I refuse to dual wield
Closest to the DLC classes powercreeping the base classes is hivescum's melee build being stronger than zealot ever was but i say CLOSE because that's just one tree and even then zealot still has MUCH more survivablity than hivescum who is a glasscannon in every build definition of "skill issue" character.and skittles is a better "sniper" than vet with aimbot ranged buff vs his meager highlightingbut vet has more damage buffs and infinite ammo while skitarii has to wrestle with the ogryn over ammo.Arbitres also competes with ogryn for being hard to kill but it's kind of conditional while ogryn is just like that.
>>572889659I set it up for the funny cleave memes, I have considered changing it over to the funny unyielding burning meme, but eh
>>572889528Psyker is still the strongest class.
>>572889528>>572890069
>>572889528>have the base game classes been powercrept by the DLC classes like vt2No, every class has its strengths.>are there any base classes regarded as one of the strongest classes on the highest difficultiesYes, the psyker.>are the highest difficulties gated behind DLCNo.
>>572890367Imagine being this unenthusiastic about shoring up your one and only weakness.
>grenade gauntlet>here's a rumbler but cooler and sci fi>we must make it worse in every wayle sigh..
>>572890770it doesn't help that much against captains and the full flame build for the pistol can't fire through 20 gunners and kill literally all of them in a single shotmonstrosities aren't real threats
>>572891126This is how I can tell that you haven't seen it in action.
>>572891126>twice the ammo reserve>5X the magazine capacity>faster swap speed>weapon special that actually does something>worse in every way
Do lightning arcs count as ranged attacks and kills for the purpose of talents?
>mechanicus power sword finesse multiplier is buggedwhat, says who, howis this really why it's so dogshit
>>572880881Here's me except i shot the monsters
just played auric for the first time and the players were as stupid as damnation people
>>572892770https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/branx-mk-vi-mechanicus-power-sword-finesse-first-target-and-damage-stats-do-not-affect-special-attacks/123379HAHA FKCING WHAT
>>572892923Well. If that's true, no wonder the special attacks feel so fucking limp
>>572892852Yeah but you're playing with pubbies in auric aren't you? Those don't look like havoc numbers.
>>572892770hehe mech-a-knee-cous
>>572893375mecha niggus
How do you revive allies with the servo skull? I thought it was the same as telling it to hack stuff once I got the talent but it never works.
>>572893927It's a blitz, you use the grenade key.
>>572893927
>>572894097Ah gotcha, thanks.>>572894118In my defense it just says "Target an ally to revive them" and on the main skill it says "order by double tapping tag".
>>572890367I have opening salvo and manstopper and still shred monstrosities with it (:
>leveling arby in uprising>teammates are lvl 20
>>572875507Holy based.
What's wrong with the rat psyker/trauma psyker build? Does it still work? I thought they reworked the psyker after that was released? Someone was shitting on it the other day
ingame survey is up on the char select screen
select deez nuts
how the FUCK are you supposed to avoid taking damage as ogryn in havoc
>>572897254what does the survey say?
>>572896452Double shield wall and trauma psyker with soul blaze on crit blessing is fine. Or just go shriek. Other blessing is either Warp flurry or Warp nexus depending on how you feel about it.Britleness on warp attack is meh. Dome shield CD got nerfed hard, so that rat psyker build is dated. Also, ability cd reduction cd or crit aura is better than 10% elite damage.
>>572897390Just dodge, bro.
>>572897403general shit and then new content feedback
Mk 2 Relic Blade > Mk X Relic Blade
>>572897685i voted 8 and 9 on the new shield enemy and the packmaster respectivelyadd a new faction, fuckers
>>572897718They are both equally good.
3 new mapsgenestealer factionweapon and class revamps NOWNO NEW CLASSES
>>572897925Nope, mine is bettererest
It was ok.
So. Skitarius can go either ability-less, to take full advantage of noospheric command, or blitz-less to still have a skull to do objectives.
>>572897718Hate the upswing
>>572897718Love the upswing
>>572899141Wait how do you do the latter?
>>572899692Skitarii starts with a skull and has one even without selecting a blitz, the skull blitz just upgrades what it does, the other two remove the welfare skull I think.
>>572897254reminder to do your civic duty and inform fatshark that you do not in fact care about more expeditions
did not realize there were bad players even at level 9000
>>572900397Wait whatI actually really like the expedition gamemode what's wrong with it
>love both space marine 2 and darktide>i can play darktide for hours on end>i cant play space marine 2 now for more than 2 hrs a sessionwhat is it about darktide
>look at havoc>BLIGHT SPREADS x20>close havoc
>>572900397I also informed them I don't care about havoc by selecting Auric as my most played difficulty
hold up does the medic servo skull use grenade charges?
>>572901685no it uses BLITZ charges you fuckin IDIOT
>>572900728Flow state is important for keeping someone playing. SM2 constantly interrupts player input to play kill animations if you play it as intended, and that was a problem lots of people had with DOOM's glory kills for example. You really don't want to slow players down, entering and exiting a flow state over and over is mentally exhausting. It gets worse if a person has ADD since they don't have a lot of focus to begin with if they're not playing medicated.
>>572901795dont yell at me :(
>yep, time to start queueing havoc
servo skull feels like a paper weak gimmick default laser pistol servo sucks medic servo is kinda usefulflamethrower servo is a total joke
>>572902162BLESS YOU
>>572902202>bro didn't take noosphere
>>572901994not him but I am so so sorry that happened to you. I can't stand to think about you hurting. I am so sorry. Please stop hurting, it's all good now. Please I am so sorry
>>572902607:)
>>572902786gay smile
havoc should just be erased
>>572900397I'M VOOOTING
but I want a ranked mode to stroke my e-peen
>>572900728It just has better gameplay and build variety its really that simple
>>572902162still 8 more levels to go my dude
>expeditions are rated very poorly, we must dedicate more resources to improve them
I have no idea wtf they were trying to do that mode. They should have just dedicated those recourses to a deadsiders themed campaign or something with slightly more open ended maps.
>>572901960i dont remember doom executes being nearly as long as sm2's
>>572902893• ᴖ •
>>572897685>>572900397>>572900897>>572902919Do you hecking CHUDS know much devtime has gone into making Expeditions???Shut up.Have some empathy.Be better men.
>>572903383you just assumed my gender chud
>>572903352Exactly the point, they were short but would still break people out of flow, the longer the break, the more disruptive it is mentally. Still, not really a problem for most people, they don't play more than a couple hours at a time anyway. You'd only notice this if you were used to binging games for several hours at a time.
>>572903383>Do you hecking CHUDS know much devtime has gone into making Expeditions???Is there a way to mark it even lower, to express my displeasure that so much devtime has gone into making Expeditions
I'm never touching the overcharge keystone againif pubbies cause your death through barrels poxbursters or just being fucking blind you don't have a keystone for the next 10 minutes.
Just had a game where the polite autist skitterman and French psyker foid were hitting on each other every chance they got.
>>572904169He might have traded his best bits for steel, but he's got the rizz
wee wee
>we made it so skitarii can fill any role>except he's only particularly good at one of them>and he's not the best pick for that rolehey wait a fucking second, I paid money I'm supposed to be OP
>>572899272You heard it here. This degenerate loves swinging.
Is the Electro Staff actually good? I've been using a Warp Charge based build and I'm fucking killing everything, seems like it fucks.
>>572906519All the attacks except the stabs are swings
>>572902202Putting one point to just nab the upgraded skull is a free 80-100k damage and maintainer of "on ranged kill" buffs.
>>572906548It's great for spamming balls, and a constant ball buster that Voidstrike doesn't have that crit bonus stat too
>>572906430I'm doing 700-900k damage in fast finishing Aurics with all 3 abilities. I don't feel like Skit is underpowered at all.>inb4 Havoc players bitch at me for not taking into consideration the niche gamemode that the devs totally neglect balance in
>>572906430Skitarii is the first time they release a class that's even remotely balanced. It still has its issues but at large it's fine. If we wanna be positive that means there's balance reworks on the horizon to unfuck this retarded powercreep mess of a game
>>572906430>skitarii can fill any roleCan't fill toonk>only particularly good at one of themDefine good>he's not the best pick for that roleBalance is in line with the base classes for a change. That's good.>I'm supposed to be OPYou should have opened with this
Okay but I want to play aimbot skiiti and it doesnt seem very good
>>572906786Use an arc rifle with it
>>572906786It's great with the Arc Rifle. Basically just +15-30% fire rate and crit chance and some stacking damage on elite kills whenever you want.
>>572906842>>572906851isn't the lock on bugged? ive been using arc rifle with emitter with the attack speed modifier
>>572907130Lock on works fine, but it doesn't do target leading. Solve this with clever positioning.
>>572907130I haven't paid close enough attention to it to really tell you. I'm still just aiming like I normally would anyway and treating the ability like a stat boost.
>>572907218>>572907257Also do I need to wait for the lock on or can I rapidly fire? there's like a noise it makes as it locks on
>Flensing protocol can be reduced by chip damage from ranged shitters>the shield cost grenadese-yikesthat's a really hard sell.
>>572907645>refill stacks on ability use>you're using this with chordclaw anywayDone, barely even an issue
>>572907825Wouldn't bother with that talent if you're running Claw since a swipe or two will fill your stacks back up anyway
>>572907896It covers you against kill stealing arc rifle users
>wow skittle weapons are so cool!>goes back to using devil claw
>>572908003You even played the class, or are you just shitposting?
>>572908000Still a waste of a talent on high difficulties. Just run forward a little bit. Andi f you don't want to be more aggressive, consider that either the Arc Rifle user is crutching on the thing, and you'll have plenty of elites to kill in spite of them, or they'll be deleting shit off the face of the planet, and you'll barely be playing the game regardless, in which case you don't need the stacks with any urgency and will coast to a mission clear. It's a waste of a talent on higher difficulties if you're running Claw.
>>572907645>Flensing protocolThere are tons of elites and specials on higher diff, especially High intensity shock trooper gauntlet. Kill one elite or special gives you 2 stacks.
>>572908150Something wrong with my statement?
>>572908306Yeah, no one's talking about going back to the dclaw.
>>572908370But the post is about me and my experience
>>572908431Why would you actively nerf yourself?
>>572908370I for one love the electric devil's claw and no one can stop me.
>>572908526Devil claw generates my dopamine
>>572873098>>572873541>>572873721>>572874717Any other fucking fucking dev in existence would have it setup like:>press blitz button to equip blitz>left click to medicae skull>right click to flamer skullBut the insidious swede thought:>bjorj bjork bjork. Let's use flaky consolenigger context sensitivity.You don't hate Sweden enough.
okay so maybe 2% mobility is infact too low
>have really good skit build that mops up everything real nice>no one will let me bring it on their havocs because they:>A) Already have a skitarii and think having one of a class is enough unless it's veteran>B) Think skitarii is underpowered and shouldn't be invited>C) Hate femboysit's not fair
>>572886267I hate that Soulstealer staff isn't quite brainburst. With brainburst once you start bursting you can look away and check to make sure that nothing is about to shank you in the back, but soulstealer aborts the burst if you look away. I normally end up just spamming fireballs with Necromancer and the "Lost Souls" talent.
>>572902893How would YOU smile, anon?
>>572909965ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
>>572880931In your earliest levels, work on grabbing some of these defensive talents near the inner ring and push out to noosphere skull. This will give you a lot of toughness damage reduction and toughness regen, and you can use noosphere to fuckup any zerker in your face while you comfortably block.With a few more levels you can start making a push to chordclaw. Personally I'm on team voltaic emitter for level 30, but chordclaw provides more immediate gains.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1003
>>572910538
>>572910538how do I set this up to give me a prostate orgasm if I get green circles
>>572889672You dump cleave since by default you have enough cleave to damage multiple fucking crushers. How many crushers were you planning on cleaving at once?
finally got around to playing skitty>two of the three melee are reskins with WORSE movesetsi fucking hate this company i swear
>>572910183>>572902893>>572903363Cute!!!!
they did such a good job with skitarii desu
>>572907393With arc rifle it barely matters since it has cacapoopoo headshot scaling so it's alright if the lockons weird. Just aim for crusher and plogryn heads.
>>572910538ITS HAPPENINGOH EMPEROR IT'S HAPPENING
>>572909847A) is correct though. You don't want to stack a class. This is where that one ogryn guy replies to me and talks about how ACTUALLY you should bring three ogryns because he's a repressed homosexual just like (you)
>>572907645I swear at some point in development they intended for Skitarii's blitzes to just drain capacitance. I think it was probably supposed to be a trend of multiple talents letting you tap into capacitance as an extra resource. But then they cucked out and the only remnants of it are Noosphere and Galvanized coating.
>>572910538Playing psyker and making it pound my prostate at high peril.
>>572912625There is no reason not to stack every single fucking class other than psyker, and even then you could it's just that all 4 psykers would need to sweat their balls off kiting across the entire map all at the same time without accidentally crossing each other's path.
>Having trouble with the bubble penance taking way too long on skitty witty>Activate game plan, will queue into auric and become the knife nigger myself>ZOOOOM through the map at breakneck speed very fast h-hayai just so I can hopefully find a reaper and gunner pack by myself and stand in front of them>the moment I do this i get matched with actually competent players who keep up with me and kill every single gunner in sight within nanoseconds>even if I rush ahead and no longer even register peoples names as they are 10 miles away from me, a random scum will materialize beside me the moment I find a gunner pack Im looking for>asking nicely if I can do my penance only motivates pubbies more to kill gunnersPLEASELETMEFUCKIHGNDO THIOS SO I CAN SOTPUSING THIS SHIT ASS BLITZ
>>572912862Then riddle me this, Batman. Why is it every time I play in a party with stacked classes they get raped?
>>572913218Are you playing without Emperor's Touch? there's your problem scrub you're not motivated enough
>>572910538Is there a reason why it came out today?
>>572913218Try queuing no mans land auric or even maybe damnantion in special assignment tab. You'll likely get worse players and many more gunners or reapers to be shot at. Like near the first medicae station and crossing the openfield twice. Usually the gate before entering the last section, the fortress, has lots of gunners waiting too.
>get denied from h40 even with the super cool gamer titleHow the fuck did this shit sniffing community get worse after a 6 month hiatus
>>572914120you need the hard mode twins insigniaand the 500k kills frameand +500 true level (minimum)and to open your third eyeYou're gonna get denied no matter what, use whatever you fancy.
>>572914120>cranky that someone noticed you are out of practice
>>572914468>implying a 40 cannot be done with 4 competent players on meta builds.
>>572913230because a sad number of havoc 40 bozos got there purely on gold toughness and a psyker clearing the screen, so when you stack classes those two might get left out
>>572914120Don't take it personally, like 90% of the time if your setups are good then you're just not the class the dude is looking for.
>pure arc rifle builds with a devil's clawIt's fucking desperado scum all over again. Arc maul shits out far more damage than that without an ammo cost, but people are going to try to keep squeezing the arc rifle stone till they get water.
>>572914770Nah I tried to sneak in as a different class and got denied. I give up trying to appease a tranny, I will go back to the frames and titles that I like and just wait for someone who isn't a faggot.
so where's the skitarii talent shuffle and buff patchdid people not bitch hard enough
>>572915384They are on holiday now.We'll get an update when they return at the end of august.
hmm, today I will...
...shit my pants
i swear expeds are prone to crashing on purpose so daddy chudshart stops my (the protagonist) from grinding scrap cheevo
>>572916070I'm gonna shit your pants.
>>572909653kek yeah your dodges might as well not exist at that point. I did the same while leveling my Skit
>>572916070NUH YET
Good guns to use with aimbot skitty?
>>572901960I hate that shit, other than whatever you're saying about flow state, it plain causes gameplay to just feel like you're stuttering through it. Like you're on a roller coaster that slams on the brakes every 2 seconds. It's exhausting to even look at from a visual stimulus perspective with the camera and character animations constantly jerking themselves into position.
>>572917097yes
>>572917097Arc raifu
>>572907218It misses even with hitscan guns. It seems to target the last position of the enemy serverside instead of the compensated position so it just shoots behind dudes.
>>572917213dumdum + enhanced arc?
>>572901960Flow state is for flesh robots. Humans take the time during the executions to look around and decide what they need to do next.
>>572917362charmed reload + enhanced arc or cavalcade
>>572917097the uninstall wizard
>>572917528charmed reload seems a bit excessive if you're taking the autoreload perk?
I see that RGB transonic blades mod with a rainbow cycle option and I go hehe.
>>572917592Maybe if you're not taking the fire rate buff... but that's amazing for the Arc Rifle and ACD gives you so much crit to trigger charmed as a baseline. I think you'll run into issues where your gun runs dry before you're done with it and your options will be obnoxiously long reload or turn ACD off to let it reload.
>>572917849i feel like you don't need more than a mag for an encounter unless you're just dumping into melee hordes
>>572917097phosphor
>>572918302>unless you're just dumping into melee hordesit feels so good though...
>>572914681Not a havoc player, but I have (inadvertently) done Guard Commando Team and Ulthwe Seer Council (never anyone else, oddly). Both fun in different ways but you do notice who's missing, especially on the psykers if it starts going south.
either Resurgence or Power Overflow needs a coherency range increase. Skit has way too much coherency stuff to not have a node that buffs its range.
Is Zealot objectively the worst class at the moment?
>>572914681This desuSome of the most fun runs ive ever had were always some super gimmicky shit like 3 scum and a vet
damn! skitty with autoaim and arc rifle is what i wanted out of vet! this slaps!!!!
>>572919564psyker > skitarii > hiver > ogryn > arbites > veteran > zealotThe only thing keeping veteran above zealot is shout.
I honestly think Arbi is the weakest. It always feels like a wasted slot to me.
>>572919564zealot is tankier than ogryn while being better at melee at the same time, ogryn either tanky and slow at killing things or more of a glass cannon than zealot
>>572920110I'd really like to hear your reasoning behind skitarii being 2nd strongest in the game
>>572920110explain yourself with your ranking of zealot
>auric maelstrom>zealot literally does nothing but spam light attacks on relic blade. i watch him while i'm downed and he never dodges, doesn't push or block whatsoever and takes health damage from poxwalkers>gets netted from trapper that appears in front of him for 5 seconds>arbites never tags snipers or anything else for his dog to kill>in fact no one except me is tagging literally anything, or even makes an attempt to kill specialists>even when we're all fighting as a group i (twin stubber ogryn) have to snipe the snipers and flamers, even though there's a plasma gun skit on the team as well>if i don't push bursters there's a 50% chance that it'll just blow up one of these retards>flamers always get a shot off unless i'm already on my gun>one time there's a sniper while we're waiting for objective so curiously i choose not to kill it. i kill it 2 minutes later since everyone else is too retarded to do so (there are no pressing threats and only poxwalkers spawning)>people hold medcrates even when there's a huge wave and everyone's at 50% or lower>50 minute runWHY THE FUCK ARE THESE BRAINDEAD NIGGERS IN AURIC MAELSTROM.
>>572920275arbi is underestimated, the control and stagger he can bring is pretty valuable and an actually good player on it is impossible to kill even in horrible situations. it's just unfortunately mogged by pbb ogryn which is also shitting on the rest of the cast as well as havoc modifiers that make enemies 300% more difficult to stagger or entirely stagger immune
>>572920110Switch Skit with Hive and Ogryn with vet and I agree
Gee, Billy, how come your mom lets you have THREE SERVO-SKULLS?
>>572920786>WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE BRAINDEAD NIGGERS IN AURIC MAELSTROM.Materials, free havoc rank, (You) rewarding their niggertastic behavior by carrying them instead of just leaving. Entertaining these shitters is what got them there in the first place. Players like (You) carrying them through damnation until they unlocked auric, and instantly jumped into maelstroms. They are too new and retarded to ever realize that wiping 8/10 runs (because everyone in maelstrom is currently a newfaggot that needs hard carrying) isn't actually helping them, all they see is big number when they win, and think it's a deserved hard-fought victory (they don't have a scoreboard to see they did less than 5% of the team's overall damage by spending most of the mission dead, and any time alive progressing backwards through the map to pick up 20 plasteel and then die again to a dog)This is ultimately fatshark's fault tards are gonna tard, they are basically animals, don't ascribe higher level decision making to a sub-70 IQ drooler, but complaining about it is completely futile because swiggers are retarded and half-decent players that feel comfortable playing difficulties higher than heresy might as well be unicorns so why listen to you? Go play havoc, chuddie, the kiddie pool is for the droolers to piss in.I just leave games when I see I have 3 freshies.I could carry them, but at this point I'm sick and tired of playing solo.There are better single player games for me to enjoy, and to be able to pause mid-game to go do real life shit occasionally, or chat with friends. All of which is more fun than having to corpse drag 3 thankless retards through the game.>long-ass rantTL;DR yes I'm mad
>>572920567Arc rifle is disgusting in both auric and havoc if you are the designated ammo dump. Otherwise phosphor is extremely valuable to teams in general along with voltaic emitter build being able to shut down all ranged enemies around you and putting out strong damage with shock maul. The servo skull I think is also quite useful with certain missions like destroying the tree on havoc.>>572920671Every other class stepped on his toes and took over on everything he did originally that was strong and unique>arbites gets shock landmines making zealot landmines completely useless>fire grenades do virtually nothing why would you let a zealot pick up grenades when hivers and ogryns exist>charge zealot>every stealth zealot is a chink>hiver took over his corruption cleansing as wellChorus is good but the problem is why would I bring someone who's entire existence is just pushing enemies back when I could bring an ogryn who can taunt everything around him or a hiver who can instantly delete everything but a boss with one of his 3 rockets? The problem is the same with veteran fatshark is too busy releasing new classes to properly add in new weapons/mechanics to existing classes that need them the most like zealot who frankly needs to have his entire skill tree reworked or add in a 4th profession that specializes in fire.
>>572920786Yet you were the one who's downed.
>>572921532vet is fine, i find them to strangely be more tankier than skittari, i keep getting downed by crusher side swipes for some reason, when that doesnt really happen on anyone else
>>572921594i am not a flawless player and will occasionally get netted, especially on ogryn, and at that point if i die because my retarded teammates would rather spend their time fighting poxwalkers instead of helping me before a flamer/bombers choose to murder me then there's nothing else i can do
what is the femboy skitarii voice
>first Auric as skitty>It's the timed train mission>Grouped with another skitty, Ogryn and Arbites>Ogryn running forwards taunting everything and keeping aggro, me and him clear out packs and hordes as they come>Other skitty and Arbites marking everything and sniping snipers as soon as they appear>Nobody takes almost any damage besides one unfortunate burster>Burst down the boss at the end>Whole mission goes incredibly smoothly with no downs or tough spotsHuh...
>>572921895you, the player
>>572920275>>572921325Arbitrator is crazy OP in auric where you have no toughness penalties and the skill tree makes you immortal, while having good control and good damage output.The class has pretty limited utility in havoc. BTL is the only control tool that works on rainbow enemies, but BTL is nowhere near as good as Nuncio so the trade-off is really painful, and only justified if you BTL/AV damagemaxx. I can't possibly give up Nuncio with how much of a DPS multiplier it is, especially during boss fights. Shield flashbang is ridiculous but other classes actually get better control tools, and crusher feels slightly wasted on a class that already exists mostly to stagger. Mines are good but don't work on rainbow enemies, and no good team actually benefits from Lone Wolf, it's mostly a (very powerful) crutch for getting through the 20s trench where good teams do not ever exist.There isn't even any one thing arbitrator does best (zealot does staggering better because chorus affects rainbow enemies and all bosses) other than maybe being the perfect trenchie crutch with LW mine spam. I guess... tanking bosses? I feel extremely safe just surviving with the shield, but that isn't much of a selling point when they could just be dying instead. Even the complete package is somewhat unimpressive in h40, because shit like being a surprisingly good special sniper (rending shotgun) isn't at all needed when you actually bring a half-decent vet, and those are easily located by filtering out shitters. DPS with BTL/AV is very good but scum still makes it look pathetic. Being super tanky matters a lot less to most good players who don't take zillions of unnecessary damage either.I think the power gap is remarkably narrow btw. Arbitrator is my least valued class in h40, in large part because I don't trust most players to play it, but it's not like I hate filling the slot with one. I just almost never see Nuncio arbitrators, so I don't often hit accept early.
>>572921683Vet was my first class and I'm nearly level 700 on him and got true survivor with him but my biggest gripe is the constant nerfs that are completely spiteful and incompetent from the obese fish>krak regen time nerfed for no logical reason>shredders are still good but the biggest problems in havoc and even in aurics are always ogryns and monsters so there's no reason to take them>plasma gun nerfed for fucking no reason then they proceed to release the arc rifleI will die on the hill of the devs are just simply retarded the arc rifle if built correctly into is stronger than the pre nerf plasma rifle and has better ammo economy. Power sword also feels like shit and needs to have it's slowness just completely removed why does skitari get to move at full speed but veteran doesn't? There's only two truly viable and high performing weapons for veteran left and it's the recon lasgun and heavy las pistol where's my fucking hotlas you inept swedes.
you hear a lot of people say hive scum is ........le HIGH SKILL character........glass cannon........but have they even played scum at all?>improved dodges>rampage turns you into a blender even into rager packs>shivsthis class is completely fucked up, short of eating an overhead how do you even die?
>>572921532While you're reworking zealot, also completely rework psyker Smite. Have the replacement smite have noteworthy downtime. I simply hate smiggers.
>>572921895Reverant with bottom right modulation. I swear I hear that configuration at least every other game.
>>572922156You don't understand just how shit the average player is especially when it comes to mechanical execution such as aiming and dodging.
I like getting matched with complete deadweights in auric because it makes me feel like I'm living out a main character scenario =w=!
>>572920671Basically the avatarposting faggot doesn't play havoc and correctly identified that zealot is currently, and probably by far, the weakest performing class in auric, assuming every other class is also in the hands of a vaguely competent player. Its only standout roles are>being a borderline overpowered support/force multiplier in havoc 40>being the perfect introductory noob class because it forces you to melee while being very forgiving to any mistakes a noob makesThe former isn't relevant because auricshitters need carrying not supporting. Outside of that, every other class massively outdamages zealot unless it's literally a last man standing clutch situation, which is where zealot's (offensive) kit is at its strongest for some godforsaken reason.I still put zealot in the top 4 in h40 and want a good chorus build in every run I play, assuming I care about winning.
>>572921998>but BTL is nowhere near as good as NuncioBTL is just better.Nuncio isn't worth it to bring ever. Not even for boss damage since a good team already destroys all bosses in less than 30 seconds without nuncio.Even faster if you just bring ogryn with powermaul and Brutish Strength who can apply 80% skullcrusher and then 40% brittleness on all targets.Nuncio just blatantly is never worth it.
>>572920786>arbites never tags snipers or anything else for his dog to killMost of the time you don't need to tag anything, you want dog to stick around and jump at the closest mauler. Tagging is only useful in havocs when you need to disable specific buffed enemies
>>572922604This is the exact kind of mentality that causes most havoc poser shitters to whinge and cry about "impossible" director seeds where you get 5-6 bosses thrown at you back to back. That little bit of extra DPS really starts mattering when the director snorts crack, and BTL's control can easily be replaced by just dealing more damage and instead killing the things you would be stunning.
>>572922482>doesn't play havocPlayed today, brownoid I simply think besides chorus every other class brings more to a team and hiver has taken over many of his previous roles and excels in them.
>>572880881>bad vs. bossesJust shoot phosphor with Infernus at it until the chamber is empty, then sic your servo skull on it so the burn stack keeps rolling.
What order do the classes go when it comes to doing damage? I want to know if I'm just bad if I do the least damage or if that's how it's supposed to go
>>572922351>the shitters now have access to wallhack, aimbot, energy shield that blocks all ranged attacks, and skulls that do the objectives for them
>>572922839Big damage numbers are fun, but I'd rather see big elite/special kills and very little damage taken on the scoreboard.
>>572922727>I simply think besides chorus every other class brings more to a teamI actually mostly agree, on a community-meta-level, because most zealot players are just complete and utter dogshit and don't provide any value because they're bad players. But a good zealot can keep up damage wise on the scoreboard while providing everyone with a bunch of really powerful auras, on top of chorus. Don't forget how powerful Shield of Contempt is, it will literally bail someone out of dying to an overhead if they have enough health/DR, and removing corruption chip literally does save lives, it's just extremely difficult to quantify when and where it mattered.I decline most scum and veterans, even though I think those two classes are by far the strongest in the hands of a VERY good player. 95% of builds just scream "I'm trash" so they get declined.
>>572922114>why does skitari get to move at full speed but veteran doesn't?They got robot legs...
>>572922114Unironically all the nerfs you listed were caused by retards constantly bugging fatshark to do it on forumsI don't know why they listen, but they doBtw retards on forums believe that noosy is overpowered because it can deal more damage than their teammates if they use cheats (they literally admit to using cheats!), so its getting nerfed soon (and it doesn't matter that you do more damage with abilities if you don't take noosy but the game absolutely should be balanced around low intensity malice. How do I know about malice? These retards say noosy kills 2 elites per activation.)
>>572922156No one ever called scum a high skill class, outside of assist box one which doesn't have "can't die" button.Scum presses button, enemies die. That's all to him
>>572922839>What order do the classes go when it comes to doing damage?Scum has the best melee DPS and some of the best raw ranged DPS, and RPG is silly.Psyker is close second on both accounts, although ranged damage can be massively inflated by infinite cleave in high enemy density scenarios like havoc. Flame staff + shriek just naturally makes big numbers. But even just in normal auric play, Scrier's Gaze raw DPS builds are crazy in both melee and ranged, and you can become deceptively tanky with your projectile immunity and 3 health curios.Skitarius is probably the next generally strongest? A high damage build kinda blends or zaps through entire hordes and makes big numbers happen, you can achieve massive boss damage with claw or plasma, VE arc rifle builds just rape, skull is busted.Ogryn next I think, mostly for PBB. A well-played PBB build just does fucked up amounts of damage. PBB rumbler is actually pretty close to the top, at times even better than psyker. Most ogryns are melee though and their damage output is just good enough to not complain about, usually.Arbitrator has huge damage potential but usually isn't built for it, and it also isn't where the class excels. The highest DPS builds also don't get much better than skittle, I'd wager. Just often sees higher numbers in long missions because everyone else is dying while the arbitrator just stands there at 100% toughness despite being fired on by 5 reapers lol.Veteran isn't played as a DPS class, and if you get big numbers it's likely your grenades doing 30-50% of the work, or you're some freak running a piss vision recon las build melting everything. Most of vet's contribution is removing ranged enemies and disablers, which often has more value than raw DPS, but DPS is often still important.Zealot goes to the bottom because of course it does. Can achieve huge damage, one-shot memes are funny, but the role of a DPS zealot has been completely replaced by melee scum.
>>572922676>director seeds where you get 5-6 bosses thrown at you back to back.You just bring fucking chorus zealot for that and just have ogryn skullcrusher rape them with the powermaul and rumbler/grenade gauntlet. And then just have the veteran rape all the monstrosities with kraks who now do 80% more damage thanks to skullcrusher.Nuncio is not worth it, ever.
>>572923574>power maul ogryn>chorus zealot>arguing in favor of BTL over NuncioWhat the flying fuck do you need BTL for when you already have two staggerrape classes? Are we even playing the same game?
>Lazy Friday snorevoc 25 or so.>Hab Drayco, lower platform after the stairs going up, after the dropoff, right after scanning event.>After fighting a chaos spawn and captain (the skitter on the team got downed), just waiting for a train of assorted specials to come out of a spawn door.>After the first poxburster, out comes a trapper, which I dodge, but unexpectedly the skitter suddenly appears from behind me, netted and mid air, flying towards the spawn door as the second poxburster comes out.>Before even hitting the ground from the nettening, the skitter turns into an assortment of items on the floor.Genuinely the funniest shit I ever saw.
>>572923156>No one ever called scum a high skill classdidn't fartshart call it exactly thatno one HERE would call it that, since we're all 7 foot tall chads with 12 inch dicks
>>572922156>>572923156>>572924054Scum is a high skill class in difficulties where a shooter volley is actually dangerous and 3 consecutive melee hits from anything erase you from existence. The only fraud scum commits is through the RPG blitz. For the most part, you get what you deserve, and you deserve what you get, when playing scum. Bad play is instantly punished, good play is rewarded with being the most broken damage class in the game.I mainly don't like playing scum in auric because I have to solo every objective unassisted, and scum is notoriously bad at that.
letting a squad of trappers catch you and poz you up with the grandfather's blessed pussy slime
Highest Skill Ceiling (Hardest to Perform at Full Power)These classes reward deep mastery (positioning, micro, map knowledge, build optimization, clutch potential) with massive upside. A god-tier player stands out dramatically.Psyker — Highest overall. Peril management, venting timing, Warp Charge stacking, Brain Burst/Staff combos, and high-mobility builds (e.g., Scrier’s Gaze) demand constant attention. Fragile base durability + huge damage/control potential creates enormous room for outplay. Hive Scum — Very high. Extreme mobility/dodging, dual-wielding gunplay, glass-cannon fragility, and ammo/ability management. High highs in DPS but punishing mistakes; steep learning curve for consistent performance. Zealot — High. Melee mastery, chorus timing, “Until Death” clutches, hit-and-run toughness regen, and horde/elite balance. Excellent solo carry potential rewards precision.Veteran — Solid. Ranged priority targeting, ammo economy, Voice of Command/Executioner Stance timing, and hybrid builds. Versatile but more “reliable” than explosive at the absolute top. Skitarii (versatile tech/mech play; less data but fits mid-high due to unique tools like Servo-Skull).Arbites — Moderate-high. Mastiff micro and control-focused play add layers, but tankiness makes it more forgiving at peak. Ogryn — Lowest. Big body, staggers, and tankiness cap out sooner; advanced play (positioning, special usage) exists but yields less relative gain.
>>572924703Highest Skill Floor (Hardest to Perform Bare Minimum / Easiest to Intimidate New Players)These punish basic mistakes harshly or require specific knowledge (e.g., perils, fragility) right away.Psyker — Often cited as high floor + high ceiling. Perils explosion risk, low durability, and timing powers make it punishing for beginners. Hive Scum — Squishy glass cannon; poor positioning/dodging leads to quick deaths. High mobility rewards skill but demands it immediately. Zealot — Melee-focused with health/toughness tradeoffs and reliance on active abilities for survival.Veteran — Ammo management and priority targeting; forgiving with guns but easy to misplay in melee.Skitarii — Mechanicus tools add complexity.Ogryn / Arbites — Lowest. Tanky and straightforward; easy to contribute with basics like charging and stunning
Shan't read a word of the grokbabble
>>572924326Actually good players will just break the game as scum>join H40>scum, psyker, ogryn, veteran>scum rushes ahead like crazy>think "oh it's gonna be one of those games">the fucker has aggro'd every enemy in the mission and is 10 miles away from team>dazzled and distracted, we go down>the scum fuck solos the entire mission with shivs, needle pistol and pickpocket
>>572924830Granted, most classes can technically do this with a knife, scum just happens to have the best offensive tools and requires the least amount of commitment to reach those levels of speed.The retarded part comes mostly from having enough DPS to still thin fucking havoc 40 hordes solo, and while kiting. Even psyker eventually struggles with peril/cooldown management, while scum just keeps going lol. Used to be stealth zealot that did this, but the cooldown nerfs broke its kneecaps.
>>572924809b-but I can speak low gothic just as well as binharic...
Just beat my first havoc 40.
>>572925092You're also not a machine speaking to me, you're a person speaking through a machine.
LMFAO
>>572925082It's the infinite ammo via pickpocket and the needle pistol being able to kill anything and everything that breaks the game.Like, I don't think it even requires that much skill at that point.
>>572925156grats
just beat my meat
We're the lowest of the low. The balls on the dick.
>>572925276Executing scum's offensive gimmick doesn't necessarily require much skill at all, it's permakiting when you're effectively on 2 health at all times that's pretty tricky, and doesn't get that much easier when you factor in that the AIDS gun has no stagger and usually delayed kills even on high value targets like trappers. Simultaneously staying alive and meleeing dense mixed hordes also isn't easy.Don't forget that what we're talking about isn't even in the realm of possibility for the average normie who manages to die in malice on a level 30 arbitrator.
>>572925156gj
>>572925156Congratulations anonWhat class did you playWhat was your lineupDid you have fun or was it ballbusting all gameWere you successful or were you carried
>>572924703>psyker>Highest skill managementLOOOOOOLLLLLLLLMAOROFLCOPTER t. got true survivor on psyker, it's the most easy class to do well with.
>>572925092>>572925219Kek>>572924687Don’t say these things please
Fucking kill me now
>>572926223Being the token psyker with 3 good players carrying you doesn't really say much about the class thoI've had all kinds of runs, including runs I've inadvertently gotten carried in by, for example, some chad rumbler ogryn. Sometimes there just isn't even anything to do if it's an easy director with competent teammates.I do think psyker is the hardest to actually reach peak performance at. Whatever damage score you had is probably doubled or even tripled in the hands of a truly good player.
lads I just had a revelation, was playing psyker recently with electro staff and I think obese fish should replace the m1 with the arc attack from arc rifle, would make it more unique
>>572926551I agree but give one of the other ball attack staffs a crit rate buff to compensate.
Kinda surprised scum cant use a flamer, out of all weapons, that one fits thematically the most desu
Realistically, are there any possible classes that aren't genestealer or sororitas?I feel like veteran covered all possible ig specialities alone, and now we face consequnces of it.
>>572926801Scums should really just be able to use anything they get their hands on, they're mercenaries after all.
>>572926994Squats?
>>572926994genestealer is not gonna be a class kek, people want it as an enemy factioncold traders or kroots maybe
>>572927281Good pointAlso it would be really funny seeing scum run around with the arbites shield and talking shit in interactions with arby's
>>572927285Veteran sniper
>>572918498>>572919467>>572919564>>572920110>>572921532Nice>>572912189I think they did a fairly decent job, we could have used one or two more weapons (radium gun) but out of the 3 classes this is probably their best
Most Realistic New Archetypes/ClassesThese draw from community discussions, dev patterns, and 40k lore:Sister of Battle / Adepta SororitasHighly popular. Zealot already covers Ecclesiarchy/inquisition faith themes, so a power-armored Battle Sister subclass or new archetype fits perfectly for melee/ranged faith-based combat with bolters, flamers, and hymns. Sisters are elite but could be "rejects" (e.g., penitent or seconded to Inquisition). Power level is higher than baseline guardsmen but matches existing power creep with DLC classes. Many players already build Zealots as Sisters. Tech-Adept / Expanded Mechanicus (beyond Skitarii)Skitarii covers AdMech warriors well (arc weapons, augmetics, machine spirit buffs). A support-oriented Tech-Adept (servitors, drones, repairs, haywire) or Reclaimator could add utility without overlapping too much. Tech-Priests proper are less likely as they don't fit "expendable reject" teams as cleanly. Specialist Human Variants (e.g., Ratling, Desperado/Gunslinger, or Catachan-style Veteran expansion) Ratling: Sneaky abhuman snipers/scouts with scoped weapons and stealth — distinct from Veteran sharpshooters. Hive Ganger/Desperado: Builds on Hive Scum with dual pistols, explosives, dirty fighting.These expand existing archetypes cheaply with cosmetics/sub-builds. Support/Healer-Focused (e.g., Chirurgeon/Medic or Sister Hospitaller)Darktide lacks a dedicated healer. A Guard medic, medicae specialist, or Hospitaller could provide buffs, corruption resistance, and field surgery while fighting. Fits rejects and fills a gameplay gap. Other Lower-Probability but Plausible:Death Cult Assassin (Zealot-adjacent: stealthy melee killer). Navis/voidsman or Bounty Hunter (ranged specialist with unique gear).Sanctioned Xenos (rare, e.g., Eldar Ranger under Inquisition watch) — lore-stretch but possible for variety.Penitent/Flagellant extremes or Arco-Flagellant for Zealot.Yeah, even ai says SoB
>>572873686yes
>>572922482>they need a book zealot to cope their way through h40piss toughness and book cc is just cope for bad positioning and other skill issues, none of that is needed if people are competent
>>572928250Until the director decides to snort crack and good positioning evaporates because there's 6 health bars on the screen and also everything is on fire, and the zealot simply decides that, instead of wiping, nobody takes any health damage actually.
>hive scum side dodging through the map 3-5 times faster than I can sprint straight ahead
anything you do is cope and a crutch, or retarded and a meme, if I don't also do it too.
>>572928651>3-5 times fasterShould be 2 times faster at the very most, and that assumes dodge teching off crates and ledges on the scum's part.Sounds like you need to learn to slide tech to preserve sprint stamina instead of sprinting on 0% unless you're an ogryn
>>572926497Just do one Havoc 20
I'm rather new, and my friend has been teaching me well, but I've realized I don't know fucking anything about this seemingly randomized stat system for different weapons. I understand how i can change perks and things, but what the fuck am I looking for in these? Are either of these good? Why is some of their damage, penetration and etc. faded out? Are these both shit for a newbie running his first level 30 character?
>>572922156I think you underestimate your own skill.Just recently had some friends (who are good at shooters) try Darktide, and they all ate complete shit on hive scum in Malice, because they can't into movement or managing distance. That's probably automatic for you and thus the class feels easy. Meanwhile I put them on Arbites and they can still hang in Auric. Even when they play Skitarii they do well because of Voltaic Emitter and all the electrictution and arc shit.
>>572926994>genestealer classWhy is every retard bringing this up? Are people genuinely this fucking stupid?
>>572929853Why wouldn't it be a new class?
>>572929660All weapons have their stat range randomized. Max stats can range from 60-80. Empty bars are a sign that the weapon isn't max level, you need to upgrade it at Hadron's. [not this one/THIS NUMBER]% shows the max stat you can achieve when fully upgraded.You unlock blessings and higher perk levels (I think) through the weapon mastery system in your inventory screen. You can then spend materials at Hadron's to upgrade your weapon with them.The stats on the blue one are better because cleave efficiency is the least important stat on the blades, and you're only missing a tiny amount of crit, which you won't feel in practical gameplay. It's close to perfect, you can upgrade it without feeling bad about it, and only start worrying about minmax autism when you're rich and actually know what you're doing.
>>572928020>even ai says SoBPic very related. AI is just a fucking parrot, it trawls through the internet, looking for information and just regurgigates it to you.Fucking dumbass.
>>572928020>>572930123Browns should never have been allowed access to AI
New enemy group will be leagues of votann who came to scourge entire system
>>572930013Same fucking reason as to why we don't have a nurgle cultist as a playable class, you fucking dipshit.
>>572930175Fuck the AI, browns should never have been allowed to access the fucking internet as a whole.Unironically cut americas, africa, india, russia and china off the internet and we'll have normalcy again.
>>572929660>>572930024to add, the max potential of a weapon's 5 stats is the only thing that can't be changed/improved, so basically you're going to almost always want to find a weapon where it has 60% (called the dumpstat) on the least useful stat, (generally mobility/defense due to 60% being enough to hit the relevant breakpoints).it's pretty easy in this game to get a 'perfect roll' (at least for 60% dumpstats) weapon, so i'd recommend just going to the shop and buying greys for any weapon you're interested in until you get the perfect dump stat, and then spend your resources on upgrading that. just make sure the character you're doing it on is level 30
>>572930308Genestealer cult would have interest in fighting against chaos and helping imperium, while chaos cultists won't.Also one of psyker personalities is literally a servant of tzeentch. Just saying.
>>572912710The grenade should require grenades. That's fine.Just thinking out loud. I see people say the shield should spend capacitance, but now you have a blitz competing for the same resource as your ability. It works with noos because for some insane reason noos can be spammed at 1% capacitance, but honestly that feels like an oversight. And I wouldn't be surprised if they changed that. With the amount of players taking blitzes that don't require grenade pickups I've been able to spam the shield quite a lot in auric and maelstrom.Assuming they do change it to require capacitance.... then the question is: Do I want to spend my main resource to tank ranged shots, or do I want to spend capacitance on something arguably better which is Voltaic Emitter that disables all the ranged enemies anyway? Offense is the best defense after all. And for that reason there's an argument to avoid having the defensive blitz step on my offensive abilities.
>>572930531And it's never happening because it's fucking stupid.Even if genestealer cult comes, it's a fucking enemy faction, not a playable class.
did you preorder new mug yet?
>>572931039It's like saying>if gangbangers come, it's a fucking enemy faction, not a playable class.
>>572931090i actually have a space marine mug already
>>572931140The difference is that hive scum are just criminals, while genestealers are mortal enemies of the entire human race.
>>572931039>>572931140A Genestealer cultist infiltrating our group and being undercover the whole time could be cool, but I don't think Fatshark has the finesse to pull something like that off, and I don't know enough about genestealer shit to know if you could make an interesting kit out of that.
>>572930804>It works with noos because for some insane reason noos can be spammed at 1% capacitanceIt does more than that. It's a controlled capacitance drain that prevents you from wasting an entire charge on 3/3 VE when 2/3 is all you ever want. It lets you dip just below cap and bounce back up to trigger the strength talent on the left. It maintains ranged kill talents for you without needing to use your gun. It actually just outright kills any of the lighter enemies when you ping them, including snipers, dogs, trappers, even fucking mutants die reasonably quick to it.>Do I want to spend my main resource to tank ranged shotsYou're assuming they're mutually exclusive when they aren't. Yes, spending charge on the shield would reduce your offensive power, but they're not equivalent. You still want the bullet immunity to get a revive off or solve an objective. What you should instead identify is that bullet immunity is really not very good because sliding is a thing, and you're trading away the thing that was already doing revives and objectives without any of your involvement to even get the dogshit shield.
>>572931374If dialogues about muh great shadow are actually a foreshadowing of tyranid fleet, then part of guard who fights against chaos and who are resistant to corruption and doing well, are genestealers. So they are already fighting together with us.
>>572881734Fireball necromancer has been making waves in the C3DWONS circlesIt's probably the strongest for fireball these days
>psyker [GER] falls far behind and goes down>angrily blames team
>>572931942Sounds based
>>572931710the capacitance control makes it good for getting and maintaining your redline stacks too. You can get a lot of juice out of being able to wiggle your capacitance around with it, but it does take an unusually autistic amount of focus to think about all of that in combat. Keeping up those two ranged talents that fall off one at a time is great but also more mental upkeep... basically noosphere is the big brain 5D chess build, if you want it to be.
>>572931710I'm not saying they are mutually exclusive or equivalent. Only that they would compete for the same resource. To what degree we don't know because it depends on how Fatshark would implement it.
>>572931942>FACKING NUUPS ALVEYS RASCHING FORVARD VISS SEIR SCHPEEDRANN BILTS HURENSÖHNE VERDAMMTE (Torben-Henrik nicht so laut, es ist 10 Uhr verdammt!)
>>572885792Voidblast is probably the strongest in non-havoc>>572891126The pullout speed being the fastest of the Ogryn weapons makes it the best Ogryn ranged in havoc outside off PBB Rumbler builds
>new mission>we attack some cultist base with dukane's regiment providing a distraction>it goes too smoothly>half way through the mission we hear over comms that some of dukane's soldiers have suddenly started attacking each other>we get to final objective while shit's hitting the fan for dukane>patriarch shows up right as we're finishing the objective, alongside a wave of thralls
>>572932205>>Voidblast is probably the strongest in non-havocThis, you can even fully build it for leftclick and it's still actually just very good. Lower DPS than electro because you crit less, but being able to throw shit around is much better than the pathetic zap now that it's been powercrept out of relevance by sheer enemy density.
>>572931942>Psyker keeps falling behind>"OMG stop rushing work as a team!">Tell him to keep up>Gets downed as he falls behind again>"Freaking toxic team sick of this shit"It's amazing to see that people like this actually exist.
>>572932409This exact behavior has been most instances of a shitter complaining about rushing, from what I've seen in over a thousand hours, so I always assume this to be the case.
>>572932409Usually this happens because the retard is playing the game backwards. Or gets stuck farming poxwalkers at some spawn door. Or don't know how to disengage. All skill issues. But also, staff psykers are very slow. And if you and the rest of the team are playing hive scum or knife builds running at mach 5 then it can become impossible for a psyker to keep up
>>572932658>But also, staff psykers are very slow.Still a skill issue.I recognized this relatively early into my psyker journey and simply started using the knife. Then I used my incredible, nature-given, human powers of pattern recognition and observation, and found out that psyker's microscopic stamina regen delay allows you to slide, recover just enough stamina to sprint, and sprint slide through the entire level at higher speed than normal while also being immune to bullets.If you fall behind because you can't keep up as psyker, it's time to drop the difficulty.
>>572932658>if you and the rest of the team are playing hive scum or knife builds running at mach 5 then it can become impossible for a psyker to keep upDamn, if only Psykers had the option to bring combat knife for mobility as well
>>572931140No, it is not. For simple reason that hive scum are just fucking human criminals, just like the original 4 rejects. Who are just penal legionares basically.The inquisition is not going to work with some fucking alien mutant cult whose entire point of existance is to be a fucking psychic beacon for an actual Tyranid hive fleet to follow so it can come in and eat everything. Nevermind that genestealer cults are insanely "virulent" and spread like cancer into every nook and cranny of imperial society through the use of the genestealer "kiss".There already was 1 fucking genestealer on board the Mourningstar and Brahm's lost her shit over it.She is not going to allow some fucking genestealer cultists, whose entire point is to INFECT others with the genestealer kiss and spread the fucking cult, on board the Mourningstar where they could infect the entire god damn crew.This shit is like asking "why don't they just willingly work with diseased nurgle cultists who exist to only spread disease and let them on board".Stop sniffing glue.
>>572931532>and I don't know enough about genestealer shit to know if you could make an interesting kit out of that.There's no making of a fucking "class kit" for them because basically all the interesting shit are just tyranid mutations.And as soon as that shit is discovered he and all of his associates will be getting executed.
>>572932658It's a psykertalent that removes slowdowns from casting and lowering perils, is a waste of dps in minmaxing builds. Here your masive slowdown
>>572932658He himself decided to split from the team and fight poxwalkers in a corner
>>572932938>bro just use a weapon you don't care to use
>>572933092yes that's what i assumed>>572932938>>572932786Psykers should not be required to bring a knife.
>havoc trench>2 retards went backwards and died>third retard leaves me to fend off ragers and rushes forward to aggro the whole map>me get gas naded and dogged because out of coherency, it's also lights out and my brain burst latches on the wrong target>third retard proceeds to aggro the rest of the map and diesYeah I don't really know if I want to climb this shit anymore
Anyone here plays Void Crew and does NOT suck at it?
>>572933661You can keep up without the knife if you can actually play the game properly. I only mentioned the knife because it helps shitter noobs that can't keep up the normal way.
>>572913218>robots have a penance to kill gunners (?)>they fucking SUCK at killing gunnersNIGGA THEY ARE TEARING ME 1200 NEW ASSHOLES RIGHT NOW FUCKING GOOO
The next class should be someone who gets nunchucks.
>>572933941Chainchucks
>>572933782>You can keep up without the knife if you can actually play the game properly.You don't understand how wide the movement speed gap can get. If the psyker's build does not have extra movement speed or a knife, and a hive scum has ALL the movement speed, then it becomes actually literally impossible to keep up. It's just math. A psyker can do everything right and still fall behind. We totally agree that in 99% of cases it's just the psyker being retarded. But it's not 100% of the time. Sometimes the rest of the team simply too fast.
>>572934179>both ends are chainsawswhere do you grab it>>572934403Yeah absolutely, I get where you're coming from, and it's STILL a skill issue on the psyker's part. Assuming the scum isn't a speedrun tranny and skipping 90% of enemies, the psyker should be able to keep up just slide-blasting with the staff, or even firing the primary. It just requires you position very aggressively forward and already start pushing before the scum got the idea to find the next pack of enemies.I can manage to keep up with my speed running friend, on fucking Deadshot vet of all classes, without a knife. It's the slowest build in the entire game.
>>572934549ok i concede it's a skill issue. But then the team should recognize it and adapt accordingly. it's a coop game after all. I've found that staying behind the player who is slow usually helps push them forward.
>>572934549>where do you grab itwherever it hurts the mostpain is glorious
>>572934549>where do you grab itthe handlessomething like this
>>572934732>But then the team should recognize it and adapt accordingly.Yeah absolutely. A lot of the time when a player is only lagging slightly behind because he has no choice but to grab ammo as the only ammo consuming build in the group but everyone else runs forward, you should wait. Same for a psyker that maybe got bogged down a little.But to be brutally honest, if that player has the most ammo picked up and doesn't react when I ping a sniper, does no damage, folds to any boss that shows up, and continues to struggle keeping up Every. Single. Time. even under spam-pings that detail where to go, and ignoring those pings to the point of running into a daemonhost? I've seen too many shitters like that. It's not worth it. Just cut him loose and leave him to die. I don't want to enable going back for 20 plasteel and getting dogged for the third time in a match.
>queue in to 2 scum>neither uses pickpocket>both sucks up all ammo>both end up with lower damage than me and the ogryn by the endshitter class
I fucking HATE grenade penances
>>572935110what did Henry do to deserve to get kicked in the face?
>>572935182He felt quite hungry
>>572894363btw, when it says "Target an ally to revive them" it means you hold grenade, aim at them until they turn green, then release.
OGRYN DESERVES BRASS KNUCKLES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>572902162Just make sure none of those curios have +wound on them.
>>572935367>monkey's paw curls a finger>it's just the cleaver with a different moveset>special is still the identical uppercut lol>heavies barely have enough cleave to horde clear but deal more stagger than damage>light attacks are only good for toughness leeching>DLC-class-tier blessings (none of them do anything and they all have nerfed numbers)
fatalist arbi bonding with heretic psyker, psyker sama ONCE AGAIN exposing the bigotry of the Imperium
20% TDR from Threat Detection Imperative15% TDR from Progressive Plating Matrix10% to 17.5% TDR from Residual Current Buffer20% TDR from Flensing Protocols15% DR from Galvanized Coating30% DR from Adaptive Combat EngramOh yeah we're gaming.
Smite psykers I got a link for youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDnnWSAHl80
>160'000 out of 250'000 tech remnantsGods, I can't keep going.Gods, I can't keep going.
>>572936094Isn't that only like 12 games on zeta or whatever node currently has the "extra zones" modifier?
>>572925156You're the man now, dog.
>>572935843>does 0 damage due to no damage investmentBut hey, if you want to cosplay as an skinny ogryn, go for it.
>>572925156I still haven't gotten past havoc 32 and I don't know if it's just picking bad teammates, I'm shit or both. Probably both...
test
>>572935686>meanwhile the Maulhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/hxprYfml4Ao
>>572936925test failed
>>572935686>dystopian shithole empire is in fact a dystopian shithole
>>572935367Fake rabi owes me feral sweaty feral sweaty feral violent feral sweaty feral leg locking breeding sex
>>572937024I'd rather hunt heretics daily than deal with goycattle whining about X or Y on the daily after watching the news on Tiktok
>>572935686The fatalist is such a better man.
>>572935686i like the fatalist :)
>>572935686I like him because he basically had the same realization Avitus did, but didn't respond by engineering his own death
the nuncio aquila should follow you around.
>>572922604Does the maul's special trigger Brutish Strength or do you push before/after using it?
>somewhat struggling in damnation even tho I never get downed and have the most revives>try auric for the 1st time>smoothest and cleanest run Ive hadwe even had a grimoire, felt like a heresy run; are randoms just retarded?Also how much further could I take a twin-linked gunlugger? Id switch but the dakka is too fun
>>572912862It's the exact opposite actually. With 4 psykers you can have:>flamestaff bubble cuck>scrier's destiny melee rapist>scrier's zapstaff transwoman>brittle trauma shriekAnd have every role covered. SOME other classes kinda work when you double dip them but never more than that.
>>572937742Gunlugger works all the way up into havoc, at which point it becomes a very niche fun build that requires a team built around it for it to work effectively.
>>572937742>are randoms just retardedyes. auric is babymode because most people aren't stupid in it and it's just damnation.
>>572937708You just push enemies, you don't even need to stagger them. You just need to push the enemy and connect with them and it counts.And you can apply the debuff up to 40% brittleness.
>>572937151You would never hunt heretics, you'd be the heretic that's being hunted.
do you roleplay, /coopg/?
>>572937742In my experience, malice-heresy-damnation is about as hard since most of the time the teammates is less to more skilled as the difficulty progresses, with obvious exceptions.>>572938258I sometimes hit the team with a "Thoughts on the emperor?" during the loading screen.
>>572937742No, auric is also full of shitters, but you're also not usually dealing with people who haven't finished building their weapons as in damnation.
>>572922408real
>>572938764Why would you even need minmax weapon stats for damnation?
>>572939779I'm talking about people with blue or purple quality weapons below level 400. Inconceivable I know, but it's pretty common after big updates and sales.
Which one is more difficult?Damnation with retarded teammates or auric with competent teammates?
>>572940082>>>572939880the first one.there are trappers in damnation. And if you get trapped once, it might be game over.
What's a good nuncio aquila build?>nuncio aquila sux!I know but how do I make it function the best it possibly can, I am tired of break the line I want some variety.
>>572940082I can manage histg Auric with retarded teammates depending on the class I'm taking, so neither of these options are harder than the other. Damnation doesn't have a spawn rate high enough to make me sweat even if the others are little better than bots. Auric with competent teammates is sleep inducing.>Havoc 20sNow we're talking.
>>572940295Mines (no, not lone wolf), shield (for flashbang), either shotgun.Forceful is fine and viable, but I prefer EO for wallhacks in havoc, and the CDR helps with Nuncio uptime.The attack speed is important, slowing enemies isn't, but can help during whichever havoc buff gives them attack speed (enraging?)The main thing about Nuncio is placement. It's not a cuck bubble, it's a debuff zone. You're putting down the thunder dome, you want all the enemies in it, with you inside it, so it goes dead center where the fight is going to be.
>>572937931...I'm an actual fucking Ogryn.You may have helped me figuring out a build, thank you anon.
>>572938258unless someone else initiates, i stick to cheering when are surrounded or when someone else does
>>572940856It also applies to captains and twins. Yes, even if they have their shields up. And also yes, the 40% brit also applies to the shield and lets you drop it quicker.
>>572938258I cringe every time someone does.
>>572936923Honestly, I found drafting people for your havoc assignments similar to a minigame. Unfortunately, this needs you to install 2 mods to give a better idea of choosing players :Current Havoc Assignment https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/911?tab=postsParty Finder Inspectorhttps://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/455I am not picky over talent point distribution which I think too many people get their panties in a knot over, and instead see what abilities/weapons they're running to make a decision if it will mesh well with my playstyle / team composition.I've been running scum exclusively 30+ and feel I've gotten better at this drafting process for better team comps, but that's something I've learned is a skill that takes experience to improve on.The current havoc assignment mod is also a real eye opener. It's actually kind of strange how many people with a havoc 40 clear can't even run a 30+ assignment, like a lot between 18-25. I'd seriously use that to determine decisions so people that are in a similar range of assignment join your games instead of choosing those using titles and frames with low assignments. This is also important because if you get a bad map+modifiers you can do your teammates' assignment instead.
>try to push burster>get hit, block an attack and get locked into a slight block animation at the same time and eat shitAIIIIEEEE
>>572938258Only if someone else starts, and even then only a little and just while things are going good>Him: OGRYN PROTECT FRIENDS>Me: thank you brute
>>572942261How often do you see people queuing with not maxed out gear?
>>572936228>twelve fucking gamesNO I WONT I SHANT YOU CANT MAKE ME
>>572942795Woe, compulsion to finish penances be upon ye!
>>572942765Thankfully zero for my own 30+ . I've only done 29-36 this current 'season' with my own assignments at a 50/50 rate before joining someone else's 37 that led to the 1st 40 clear this time around with the same group. I also don't count not having the 1% + toughness/health because that's stupid.HOWEVER! I've been running 20-29 on other classes ie Ogryn/Skitty/Vet to limit test and hopefully help others and I have regularly seen non-maxed out gear. If you or a family member knows of anyone stuck in the 20s, you really do need those mods because that's a real problem in that range.
>>572942983>Woe, compulsion to finish penances be upon ye!I am so happy my autism doesnt include needing to finish every penance.
>>572943575Yet
>already had auric storm survivor>failed to get auric exemplar like three times as arbites>get it first try as skitariihuh
>>572942765I just reread your post and saw queuing and I can say I have seen non maxed gear trying to fish for 30+ assignments, but they were usually 20 havoc clear or lower. I don't know an exact number but it was low because I was queuing very late in NA East. If you are running 30-34s then you should still consider people 25+ current assignment because it's natural progression even if the jump from 29-30 is fuck stupid big.
>>572944815what the hell just happened
For skitarii Galvanic Marking Array node is it Ranged Elite kills as in clawing gunners/shotgunners or Ranged Elite kills as in I have to shoot them?
>>572942498>sprint to the burster>try to push>out of stamina>hold block like a retard while staring death in the face
>>572942765There's always a guy like >>572902162 requesting to join my 40. Sometimes they spam it.
does the combat axe just suck on zealot now? I want to break free from the relic blade but I feel like everytime I try to do so I just wrap around to using the relic blade again.
>>572945062https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/510
What's the hot co-op shooter these days? My friend group needs one. We got soured on playing Ready or Not because one of us is an actual cop who's been really salty playing it ever since we all ran with the joke when I said>I won't shoot a nigger teen today, thought no cop ever.
>>572944815>>572945062dicksword 2.0
>>572945616As far as I know, nothing is super hot right now. Darktide a little hot. HD2 is lukewarm. Far Far West is also neat.
>>572942261>Current Havoc AssignmentThis was a great addition but I got baited hard todayAccepted a fem ogryn (yes, she somehow managed to make ogryn look feminine) and turned out she's boosted. Like, very boosted. She has havoc 40 clearance and her assignment is 31, but she has no idea how the game works, goes through every wound in every room, and shoots rumbler at twins and captains shields.>she has havoc 40 clearance and you don'ttrue
>she
>>572945987>she somehow managed to make ogryn look feminineThis reads like those muslims who say men need to grow beards otherwise they look too sexy, and I worry for you
>>572945090Shoot
>>572945737Far Far West looks pretty slick, I think I'll check it out. I was hoping Rogue Core might be it but it sounds like it could use some work.
>>572943992I completely ignore people who haven't at least cleared 21 (because that means they can't even clear damnation, they have no business applying to havoc) and if they have assignment rank lower than 16 (means they can't even clear a maelstrom, or dropped from 16 by losing many games in a row).
>>572945090Isn't that thing like 1m long? She's tiny???
>>572944815>h-he's fast...
>>572946582japanese girls are indeed tiny
I like the expeditions but they are much more susceptible to bad randos and they don't even give better rewards to compensate.
>>572946154She picked some kind of small face and used face paint, and had a long tied hair. And her name was lady something.Trust me, it was a woman. She played like one.
>>572945987>fem ogryn>sheTo be fair, that's not really that much of a boost as long as it's 30+ , but they were likely carried up to that point based on what you're saying and probably went from mid-high 20s to 31 from the 40 clear/carry.There's no foolproof way of knowing how much of a team player someone is which is why the current assignment is what I feel is the current best way of choosing people instead of frames+titles.
>>572946695you've lost your mind anon. Even the doktor and Sefoni can't do anything for you anymore
>>572946823dude, she typed hi and a smiley face as soon as she joined
>>572945062Just yet another cheater who then comes to these threads to claim X or Y is "fine" after he downloaded mods to automate movesets for him. They'll usually cope about "skill" when you call them out too
>>572947026
>>572942261Current assignment is one of the best mods and frankly a must have for everyone. I do not understand why fatshark went with the all times high as default.
>>572946576True, but that's also an issue of how absolutely shit the current system is and why inspectors are a necessary evil right now.It sucks because you can't list what you're looking for which leads to declines which I got frequently as scum before hosting my own.I blame Fatshark for not giving at least a popup or warning that you are attempting the current hardest (and debatably unbalanced) content of the game if you try to run non-maxed gear or try to join higher assignments with a low assignment.But instead we have the incomprehensible mind of the Sw*De thinking competitive pvp brackets for a co-op game was necessary in the first place.
>>572942261>I found drafting people for your havoc assignments similar to a minigame.One reason I refuse to part take in it.I'm fucking leeching up till Havoc 40. I refuse to install mods to make swedish retard game do something that it should do by default.Unironically, if people just stopped using mods like inspect from party finder and just entirely stopped playing darktide as a whole, yes just stop playing it and do play something else.Fatshark would be adding in basic functionality faster than a gypsy grabs your wallet.Mods can be great for a game, but it quickly becomes a cancer when the dev team behind the game starts to just think "Well the modders will fix it."It's what happened with Bethesda, and we've seen where they and their "games" ended up.So is it any surprise that Darktide is just worse version of VT and for some stupid reason lacks basic functionality that VT2 had? No. It's the logical end point.
>>572947481>True, but that's also an issue of how absolutely shit the current system is and why inspectors are a necessary evil right now.I mean if I see current assignment lower than 16 or clear lower than 21 I won't even inspectBut yeah mods are necessary
>>572947279Same reason they made the 15 missions without being downed be your all time record.
>bursters aren't guaranteed to be primed for detonation anymore when you push them
>>572947507>worse version of VTactually this happened to me when I was spiraling from a 30-29 where my group kept getting the error that someone in the party needed to cancel their current havoc assignment or something similar. It made me think how the party finder from day1 in the BETA of VT2 was already more functional than the current state of darktide's party finder. The issue had to do with a teammate playing skitty funnily enough. And that was about 10-20 minutes of madness before figuring that out.
Can somebody explain to me the actual stat breakpoints you want? Even if I get a weapon with the dump stat max that I want, the good max stats come with low base stat from the getgo even if its a high lvl weapon, to the point that If I upgrade it fully it doesnt even hit max invest
Иди cвoeй дopoгoй, Cтaлкep
>>572942261>that based slav made an auto-reject mod>the comment section is filled with seething trenchlets
>>572948238Can you rephrase that?
>>572948392I hate this WoW raiding culture in darktideIn VT2 if you could not carry 3 shitters you were one too
>CIVI maelstrom gives almost the same rewards as HISTG auricBullshit lol.
>>572910538id like to do this but im not gay
>>572949067I won't tell anyone
>>572938258Nah but I call Ogryns "big man" or "slab" when I'm talking to them
>>572949472Kayex is cute
>>572948593okay so I get a 400 power lvl shovel from the shop: it has 60max def which I want and the rest are 80. But the current dmg stat on it is sitting at 60 for instance. From what Ive seen the 1st empower on any weapon bumps the dmg by 2 and the subsequent empowers by 1. So If I get it fully to 500 the dmg stat at the end would be 71/80 no? Or does it even out at the last few empowers and actually hits the max cap.I have not gotten a weapon to 500 yet so I wanna be sure whats worth the mats and whats not
>>572949472this line and hadron yelling out RELEASE THE POWER OF THE SERVO SKULL completely seriously are my favourite lines.
when are you actually supposed to plant the ogryn shield?
>>572950157i dunno mathi doubt the swedes doif it says 80 it will be 80 by the end
>>572948196I just have a love-hate relationship with havoc.The gameplay is fun but there are parts of it which are just stupid like most of modifiers are just terrible and not fun. I like the horde density, captains, monsters and twin spawns. 1 modifier I do like is the healingBut I just fucking despise shit like Blight Spreads it's just a modifier that says "you're not allowed to have fun, fuck you" and I hate it.Other is Rituals, on paper it sounds fun, but fuck me these pieces of shit are fucking horrendeusly coded and glitch out 24/7 and the fucking devs just refuse to fix them.Also doesn't help that I lost my havoc group, so I'm playing with randoms now. The group just stopped asking me to join for games even if they could see I was online, so I took the hint and left
>>572950157>So If I get it fully to 500 the dmg stat at the end would be 71/80 no?No, once you get it to 500, all stats will be at their max cap.
>>572945360Desu, the obviously new players always fuck off, the ones I always see spamming are always some retard running a complete meme build who refuse to take 'no' for an answer. The worst offenders are melee vets with a very confusing weapon setup and PBB loogers who are usually not even 30 trying to spam their way into my 40 and I never understood this mentality
>>572947026Bro, I do this and I'm a straight guy...You gay......
>>572951196you're not straight
Someone help a Skigga out and toss a non-shit build at me.
>>572948392Oh nice, it's the mod I theorycrafted making a while ago. Glad to see someone actually went through with implementing it. A little barebones, but I'll use it.
>>572951196I would have sex with you as a straight guy
>>572930804>It works with noos because for some insane reason noos can be spammed at 1% capacitance, but honestly that feels like an oversight.It probably is an oversight, but in practice I've never fucking been at less than 25% capacitance except for a few moments after blowing it all on a voltaic emitter. Liberal usage of noosphere has a marked impact on how quickly that you can replenish your capacitance charge, but your charge rate is still in the green.
>>572950961right, thank you
>>572950850>I just have a love-hate relationship with havocsame, I do like it and have fun with it, but is very obvious and actual artificial difficulty, the game mode.Much like any reasonable person has already said, there should be a mode after auric with all the fun stuff of havoc without most of the bullshit modifiers, limited ammo, and some numeric changes, as higher health enemies make make weapons without armor penetration less viable on classes that aren't rampage scum. And rituals was apparently a known issue that still hasn't been addressed like the archivum part of commsplex is an almost guaranteed dh fight if you get a ritual or 2 there.>spoilersSome people get really worked up over this mode for 'that W' when I've only ever seen it as something for fun, but I'm just speculating. For havoc, I've exclusively pugged it, and part of the reason I also like it is because it reminds me of VT2 lobbies. I also have a limited 'social' bandwidth so I don't keep up with adding a bunch of people and playing with them like I did in VT2.
>>572950697When you accidentally step on a daemonhost.
I'm new to darktide and still leveling up, but what I'm hearing from you folks is that Auric is the comfy cataclysm equivalent and that havoc is like tranny modded difficulties locked behind finding a group in a groomer discord.
>>572950850>"you're not allowed to have fun, fuck you"Ablative wards lets you ignore it as long as you don't leave the zealot behind a sea of pox.
>>572952854You don't need a pocket zealot for running ablative wards. The passive corruption buildup is so slow that you'll probably finish the mission before you lose a wound. In all likelihood you'll have an opportunity to cleanse the corruption from a medicae station somewhere along the line.
>>572952132>It probably is an oversight, but in practice I've never fucking been at less than 25% capacitance except for a few moments after blowing it all on a voltaic emitter.Real. Especially with flensing, you regen it so fast noose builds will remain viable even after the inevitable fix.
>>572952751Yes
>>572938258No it’s pretty gay>>572943909Very cool pic>>572945616I want to believe this is true very badly
I can't tell if I'm doing well as Ogryn or not.
>>572952479What you're asking for is basically havoc 20 to 30. I have said it before, I will say it again: the trench is the most fun darktide experience.
>>572952591is it me, or have DH's been nerfed heavily over time? I remember when I learned not to fuck with 'em like on my very first character
>>572947163cute>>572952105and you would bottom too
>>572952751Correct.
>>572946154… Muslims say that? I thought their logic was that they need to look
>>572953489they have been nerfed, and players have been buffed. If someone wakes a DH it's just a DPS race that any competent team should have zero issues with.
>>572931771Even assuming that were true and not nonsense you made up, a hive fleet approaching means they’re already preparing to fight against us, not team up with us.
>>572930531>Also one of psyker personalities is literally a servant of tzeentch. headcanon from your unwashed asshole (and still wouldn’t be the same thing at all)
>>572953615Pretty sure that's an exclusively saudi thing but it is real, yes.
>>572953828a shame. I miss when the Witch was a spooky concept that reminded you that a horror themed FPS is still allowed to be scary. But eventually player and dev overcome's monster.
>>572952854I play ogryn mainly.
>>572953897Your "beloved" is a lord of change, you freak.
>>572953984Then you're not allowed to have fun, fuck you.
>>572944815Is this the mid-swing special? What even is the attack that's happening here?
>>572953419You're doing good. That's the damage you expect from a melee ogryn build.
In the interests of not promoting shitter behavior, I ask that nobody answers that. >>572954145
>>572930505>>572932939Truth…
>>572935686>at any moment you could burst into an interdimensional portal that monstrous creatures can crawl through or you can pop our heads the second we turn our backs on you>”yeah well you guys just don’t know any better”Lol. Psykers are like the one case where attitudes are somewhat warranted
What is the grenadier gauntlet for?
>>572954465Rumbler sidegrade for variety.
You guys around 300 hours played, how many penance points are you at? I have 4,995.
>>572954465Fucking up blobs of gun mobs and gunners instantly with suppression, also much more reliable for tagging specials at a distance than the rumbler.
>>572954465not having any ammo because 3 skitties like using their mall cop tazer and think grenade launchers are a "waste of ammo"
>>572954312Nigger, I am too lazy to bother with mods. I just can't even make out what the attack in this is supposed to be. It looks like he's consistently reseting his chain.
What's the way of getting the refraction emitter penance that involves the least amount of me suffering?
reminder to extract asap to grief salvage cucks
The galvanic rifle feels nice but a unfortunate victim of fire rate>damageanything you can do with it the arc rifle does better simply cause its full auto
>>572954127Then I guess I won't.
Little visual bug I noticedIf you cut a dreg vanguard in half the upper half turns into a scab vanguard Do what you want with this info
>>572954628I have 400 hours and 3700but i am something of a casual
>>572955375Ranged only maelstrom.
>>572955375just use it???but i guess if you wanted to speedrun, when i was doing the arc related challenges i saw a fellow skittle pop the shield and just stand infront of gunners lmao
>>572953421after playing ogryn and skitty in the 20s I do think it's pretty fun even with players that don't have a clue what's going on.Again it's a sw*Dish moment where this bracket system could've been better consolidated into tangible modes like for the 21-29 range then the 30-40.I mean seriously, this is a game where you just need to throw yourself at higher difficulties to get better, there's no way around it. And then you suddenly are penalized for playing and losing. And if you want to play in the 20s range you have to join someone else's even if you have a 30+ assignment?!Really baffling decisions all around like they learned absolutely nothing from VT2 with adding modes the majority of the playerbase doesn't want like weaves.Hearing the current game director talk during a skitty playtester interview saying 'we don't know what we want' or something along those lines was just so ignorant and arrogant.
>>572954465LARPing as a bullgryn.And besides the previously stated points, the special's handy to get through armor blobs. I wanna say the blessing to apply brittleness on direct hit helps with bosses too, but I'm not sure.
>>572955569Biggest issue galvanic has is the dumb ADS delay thing and the lack of ammo.It needs a bigger magazine and more ammo in reserve and it needs the ADS delay to be removed entirely.Every gun should be pin point accurate on the 1st moment of ADSing.
>>572955747There really needs to be a dropdown list to select the level you want to play at. At least we won't ever lack hardstuckies to leech from.
>>572955776It helps as in brittleness applies its bonuses (bonii?) to unyielding but everybody on the team are probably running brittleness too.
>>572954450Psykers imploding into warp portals isn't entirely random. Lot of it tends to happen if they are badly stressed and they are in a bad situation straining themselves and their power.Psykers aren't 100% entirely harmless, but it certainly doesn't help if you keep antagonizing and pissing off the proverbial nuke with legs.
>>5729546282300 hours and around 6700 points, I can't remember exact number. Mostly stopped caring about those when I finished all my havoc penances.
>>572955975>hardstuckiesI just had a revelation of equating myself to some sort of symbiotic parasite to play in the 20 brackets. I mean it sucks they're stuck there sometimes not of their own fault but I like playing that range over aurics sometimes so I want people stuck there... god this game is so fucked up.
>>572955587deepest lore
>>572944815Friendly reminder that psyker inferno puff sprint cancel is still in the game.
More maps shitfark
>>572944815>my mods don't give me an advantage.
I simply don't care about penances. Whatsoever. Sometimes the game tells me that I completed some.
you know what, at least they can build some new missions with the asset work from expeditions for the normal mode
Is the brittleness stacks cap per player or for the entire team?
>expeditions are masozi's premiere game mode>everyone hates them and wants them shutteredracism wonnature is healing
>>572944815How does this fair against bosses?I imagine shielded guys don't even get their shields
>>572958591Why are her lips so big
just beat a blight modifier as melee ogryn without a zealot to cleanse though we had an ablative ward skittle that just ran through the shit most of the time
>>572958534It's applied to the enemy, so it's for the entire team.
>>572956142>Psykers imploding into warp portals isn't entirely randomBut it can be is the point. That alone is enough to warrant wariness and cause for concern. Everything else is just downstream from that and the fact that they frequently tend to be crazy or at least very eccentric.
So is precursor the politically correct way to refer to normies then what's the admechud way?
>>572958146How do you get dark heresy on steam already?
>>572944815There's some fuckery going on here. A simple macro (this includes in-engine macros like Skitarius) cannot achieve this, the weapon animations don't work like that.
sonic blades feel a lot better with criticals, big thanks to whoever told me that a few days ago here. I'm too used to staggermaxxing with clubs
>>572958591is that nigger still doing comms for missions?I havent played since launch and I couldnt stand listening to her inane monkey babble
>>572959630pre-servitor
i just bought hivescum on the sale and i wonderdoes hivescum take more damage than other classes?like my fucking toughness is gone in a single ranged burst and my health might as well be binary I'm doing heresy level quickplay for leveling but I feel like im running auric with how fast i diei already picked all the toughness restoration perks and inject myself with toughness stims but MAN
>>572959852Yes.>it could be worse>I could be down there with youClassic.
>>572960257>does hivescum take more damage than other classes?No, but yes.Other classes have higher base stats and earlier access to stronger damage reduction nodes.
>>572959758>in-game macros like skitarius cannot achieve thisshould've just asked for the prompts
>>572960257Yeah you want to not get hitI know that's true of all classes but that's especially true for Scum
>>572960373Yes. I can see it's the vertical light, but it doesn't come out at nearly that speed, even when removing the hardcoded cooldown. It doesn't matter whether through Skitarius, or manual inputs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq6bn1o4P6UWhat is the Old Ranger Trick of Darktide?
>>572959683Beta for the basic tier of preorder (36€)
>>572959852why are you in this general
>>572955375No man's land. Lots of open spaces with tons of gunners.
>>572959779that was me. wanna do it?
UP IN DHA CLUB!
how much harder is havoc than auric?
>>572961765much harder because instead of everyone's goal being fun it's instead proving to themselves they aren't a shitter
>>572960290>>572959852>>572958591are there mods that mute certain mission dialogue?I never want to hear Masozi's or Hallowette's dialogue ever again if that's an option
>>572961632If it's with you, anon, I dont mind..
>>572961765Depending on the rank, not at all, or even less.
>>572961364it's the coop games general, not the darktide generalI play other coop gamesyou sound like one of those skitarii tranny posters so it makes sense that you'd get all mad and pissy
>>572955375queue auric first level expeditions. no one running the highest difficulty is doing the first level so the lobbies are empty. run around until you find ranged patrol, farm, quit and leave usually
>>572961893if such a mod existed it would be on nexus for all of a day before the mod page was deleted and the creator's account was put on the "known agitator" listbut you could make a mod that replaces all of the white characters with south african accent AI and it'd stay up
>>572961898um can we rub together our.......
>>572960504are you sure you used the swap attack and not the block attack?
I have decided that the optimal skitarius curio setup is one each of health, toughness and stamina because 1) FUCK remaining at 98 HP on the same plane of existence as the current bursters, 2) the skitty can have a little toughness and 3) the arc maul push attack consumes HOW MUCH stamina??!Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>572962254we can polish each others' armorsit's not gay if it's armor-on-armor
>>572962920Gayyy
>>572961893Zip it 2. I don't know what the chud above has against dutch accents...
Every class should get a 2nd ranged weapon slot but it is reserved for pistol type guns. Ogryn and zealot get the special trait of equipping a 2nd melee weapon in the slot if they want to.
>>572963481I think i t's cute
People suck against horde now
>>572963892Heavy sword enjoyers, this is your hour.
>>572962820I've been thinking about similar but man I dunno, hard to give up a second hp curio, because you get so much EHP out of Adaptive Combat Engram that wayUnrelated but does anyone know why my textures are raped now?
the vanguard trash mob is tailor designed to annoy the shit out of every ranged focused.so fucking annoying trying to pull out my gun and 3 of these niggers are spamming their sprint attacks on me
>>572964639can i have your config? that looks great imo
>friend pushes me into a troll when I'm low healthNIGGEEEEER
>>572964895You don't want it brother this shit is happening to random parts of the models across all my classes. You're actually right though I did some config changes not too long ago trying to resolve a hard-crash issue, I should revert that ty
Does anyone have that wojak with the darktide characters all together?The whole team together.
>>572963694too kino for DT
>>572965098Is THIS your card?
>>572965098
>>572965902>>572965920Thanks anon exactly these.I had it somewhere on my computer but I couldn't find it
>>572965920>636x336retard
>>572964674If it makes you feel any better they're ass to fight for most bladed melees as well.
>>572966137I'm gonna insert a 420x69 cylinder up your ass.
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>572962632buttah!
>>572966764
Does this make the thrust blessing worth using?
>love admech aesthic>Arby gameplay is way more fun Its not fair
>>572968426Only really on the branx pickaxe and folding shovels.You don't use it for the slab shield since the talent doesn't really stack fast enough to use on the shield.
>>572968426The thrust blessing makes the thrust blessing worth using. A reliable 20-60% power on your heavy swings is pretty competitive
>>572969560Seems hard to justify using thrust when just sending out a second uncharged heavy attack will almost always be faster and results in effectively 100% more damage.Also a lot of talents just apply per attack and don't benefit from charging.
>>572968426>>572969872you use thrust for the first stack, you don't hold it all the way. It's just extra damage and stagger on melees where you're spamming heavies all day anyway
>>572970087>you use thrust for the first stackNTA but I remember trying that and even with cheats to auto release on 1 stack the DPS wasn't noticeably better than just doing heavies, so it's a wasted blessing slot if you use it for that.I'm not 100% certain, but I suggest doing some DPS tests.
why is the revolver considered not havoc viable? everyone tells me to just use the bolt pistol instead but... i like my revolver
>>572969872It's useful to maximize one attack, either a special in the case of the folding shovel or thunder hammer, or when you have a lot of crushers and need to joust them safely one hit at a time. Thrusted heavies still pull ahead a little on single target damage for monsters on the big weapons, branx, shovel, etcAlso as strength/power it helps in reaching stagger breakpoints on demand, and adds some extra cleave.
>kerillian's voicelines for arby are very samey>but she also has a really cute laugh>it almost never plays
>have a two week event>the rewards don't work without spending 4 minutes logging in and out (and also knowing where to use them, good luck newbies and returners)>the event buff doesn't work for the first week+, in fact does the opposite of what it's supposed to
>>572970556If you can make it work without being a detriment to your team, by all means. Meta be damned.
did they increase ammo drops in havoc? I feel like I can spam my gun so much more than usual
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a22e3e01-38d0-4408-b1fb-e40404859b2c/larping-as-a-leman-russIf anyone has been waiting for a good excuse to give the new plasma gun a go, try this one out because I feel like I'm on to something here, this is kinda sick
>>572970556the reload probably? but there are ways to work around it like weapon specialist vet with the auto reloading on switch
>>572968307>>572962632She’s so dumb…
>>572971084I still dont understand what I should be doing with the relicsmost gachas have better ux than this, it's kind of insane
is he trying to rizz up hadron
>>572949472>Rannick tried the same excuse on Brahms after Kharib complained to her about Rannick's snoopingThese pesky servo skulls
>>572973148He tries to rizz up everyoneHe's a rogue, it's his job
>>572973253
>>572973148yes he is literally mehadron sexo
>>572970556Ammo economy is the largest concern, the hp boosts shift the breakpoints requiring more ammo over the course of a mission, combined with a middling ammo reserveMinor utility of the bolt pistol,Stagger, bolt pistol staggers clumps of gunners when you shoot one which lets you turn them off in a pinch.Bleed, useful if you're forced into a position to burn ammo on a monster or that one modifier is in rotation that provides ranged damage reduction
Why don't they just add in another difficulty? Is because havoc players would rope?
>>572973093>collect relics in missions with event modifier>enter milk's shop >open the events menu>click one of the two buttonsFagshart wanted another player driven event but this time they made the left buff so much better in general than the other so the choice is clear
>>572973728the left side is so excessively dominant because retards will just open and click and it's an extra button on controller to go to the rightside option.
other than veteran, what do i play if i want my entire schtick to be The Elite/Special Killer
I feel really vindicated that even with galvanic+the aimbot you still can't consistently headshot ragers because of how fucked their hitbox is.
once i get my weapons to 500 does plasteel and diamantine become worthless
>>572974029ScumSkittleArbeetus with a dog build
>>572974130so long as you never want to swap perks/blessings or upgrade more weapons, yes
>>572974130You hoard it to max the masteries of the next set of weapons or create one perfect weapon of each type for each character.
>>572974029Ogryn with a rock is fun, rock returns itself if you kill one with itSkittari with chord or the little revolver is funArbite can have the dog auto target ranged enemies and have the dog do a blast radius explosion you can trigger while it's running through the trash or other eiltes on the way there
>>572974130What about the other classes? You need a lot. I have perfect melee and ranged weapons for only 3 classes so far. It's like 1600 diamantine to take a 340 power profane weapon from the armory and consecrate/empower it to the max.
>Skitussy>Psykussy>Arbussy>Free chussyThis is the "smooth run" team now
>>572897254>surveyGo and say the shield enemies add nothing to the game and are badly designed, and that expeditions a waste of dev time.Or the opposite like the faggot that you are.
it is actually so fucking insane how bad randoms are in darktide
>>572975780You are the common denominator.
>>572975780After gittinggud and helping some friends do the same, the game just doesn't teach you how to play well and a number of penances teach you to play wrong, like dodging dogs vs blocking them.
Has this arby always been in the training room, spying on me the whole time?
Just had a nightmare that fatshark's next game is an extraction shooter with full melee mechanics like the 'ide games
>>572977427Excellent. a 'reign like
>>572975780What i realized while playing with my shitter friends is that they don't hear/understand sound cues at all. I hear mutant screaming and instantly know where it's coming from, meanwhile the average shitter is somehow surprised by it and other specials. I'm not sure if it's playing on speakers issue or what.
I've never played a Fatshark game but I love 40k. I was thinking of getting Darktide since it's on sales but I've seen some "builds" and it's all just stat sticks. Does the game have actual builds that change how your character plays? Or it's just one build will increase your crit vs one increase your sprint speed or something.
>>572977904It does but the core of the gameplay will still be some form of melee, just depends on how much of it you're doing. There's no such thing as a "stat stick" weapons only affect themselves with very few exceptions.
>>572977904Despite how much /coopg/ complains about it, it's probably the most popular game here. As far as 40k goes, it nails the feel and has good music. Gameplay-wise, it feels great and the loop is decent. Builds greatly change how you play your character, each weapon has something that makes it unique, especially melee weapons with different attack patterns. The game is great, Fatshark just kind of sucks because they don't seem to do much, communicate less, and are on a quarterly update release schedule
>>572977904absolutely, most characters can have numerous playstyles with ogryn being the most one dimensional for the most part. There's a lot of diversity as to how you can go about playing this game
>>572977632every time I hear a poxburster about to blow I just watch my party's healthbars in dreaded anticipation. every fucking time
did scab ragers always have carapace armor
>>572978867>hear a poxbursterlucky
>>572977626Sounds gross as fuck>>572975780The usual case for most multiplayer games sadly
>>572977904>Does the game have actual builds that change how your character plays?Depends on what you mean by that. Abilities and blitzes change, but the basic core of the game is that you will still be hitting and shooting things. It's not like an MMO where you press a selection of ability buttons in a sequence for big damage, it plays like a first person shooter with movesets on melee weapons.
>>572974962i only cared about skitari
>>572979136no, originally they were all flak. They gave them a carapace torso a while back.
Would it be too OP if they changed it so that ogryn regens 10% toughness from melee kills? Since currently every class regens about 5% for every melee kill they make.
>>572980335Ogryn melee weapons tend to have large arcs and long ranges, far more than the human sized classes. It would be busted because they can cleave through and kill way more enemies in a shorter amount of time. I think they just need high toughness damage resistance while they're swinging the same way they get it for dodges.
>>572975780I am a humble damnation farmer and a LOT of people I team up with have no idea how to deal with hordes and never block EVER
Hipfire or brace flamethrower for bosses?
POV you just turned a corner
>>572977904It's awesome. Tons of classes, tons of weapons, tons of ultimates and abilities to choose from. If you can find some friends to play with it's even better.
>>572980849>the same way they get it for dodgesogryns are the only class that dont get toughness damage reduction why dodging or slidingevery other class gets sliding reduction while hive cum and vet are the only ones to share missing dodge damage reduction
>>572981135I actually love poxbursters despite the bugs.
>>572980972Hipfire spam builds up better DoT on a single target
>>572977904I had 2 maxed out characters on xbox 2 years ago but now im returning on steam and I'd like it if people babysat my veteran..
>>572981256Pretty sure they changed that a while ago and Ogryns have damage resist on dodge now.
>>572980972If you're being ammo conscious, brace to put 15 ammo/stacks onto them quickly, then hipfire once every few seconds to keep it refreshed.If you want to kill it slightly faster, hold that braced flame down to maintain the crit required 16 stacks,
>>572981256Ogryns did get the buff to their inate "Tank" ability, which gives them passive 25% toughness damage reduction and 20% damage resistance, but now also gives them 50% damage reduction on dodge and for 0.25s afterwards.
>>572981450https://www.playdarktide.com/news/beyond-the-hive-free-update-out-now-patch-1-11-0-expeditions-game-mode >Ogryn: Base Passive>New: While Dodging and for 0.25s afterwards, you have +50% Damage Resistance.huh yea you're right, weird that someone updated the chart to include skit but not that, same with the gameslantern website
>>572971084>>572973093You literally can't read?
>get all dlc classes>spend multiple hours on each>end up mining psyker
>>572980849Yeah that does seem very strong.I guess the other idea would be to just combine smash 'em and best defence and buff the over all skill. Like make it 8% toughness on light attacks 17% on heavies?
>>572982320Yeah you're a fucking retarded dipshit for buying them before exploring the free ones
>>572982320UhI meant mainingRock and stone or something
>>572982406Chill out nigga, I played the other classes years ago I just thought that one of the new ones would click more and surprisingly they didnt
>>572982320at least you got your moneys worth levelling them i guess
Skit might end up being my new main after Zealot remaining my favorite since release.
I will buy hive scum when they get a milkor style grenade launcher as a main gun.I want to do a rashad + grenade launcher + boom bringer + Desperado build.Give the grenade launcher variants which change what type of DoT the grenades apply to enemies, 1 could be burn, 1 chem toxin and 1 could be bleed.
>>572982584You're the nigga with a brain like that
>>572982037Tiny text not good
>>572983140>he thinks swedes will touch the DLC classes in anyway ever again post-launch
>>572983140>I will not buy hive scumCould have just said this and conveyed the same information
im tired of these auric/havoc lobbies where if i go down the entire team crumbles, having to spectate a guy struggling with a single bulwark is agonizing. i dont want to feel like the game is a wipe if i make a single mistake
>>572983140sorry chuddie the only thing you're going to get is another maul
>>572983140Ogryn have gotten 2 weapons since launch and you think they will add more content to a paid DLC for free? The only possible cope would be a future DLC class having one and it being added to previous classes too, but considering none of the first three have had this, again, I don't see it happening.
>>572983673Give hive scum a grenade maul.It's a stick grenade that explodes when you hit an enemy with it and you also take damage from it.
>>572983728They could get more jewish and release paid weapon packs that add 1 to each class :)
>>572983798Man, if it means they make any new weapons for ogryn, I'll happily take it.
>>572983737Now we're talking lad
Give hive scum a rocket jump
>>572983897Same, I'd actually be more than okay with the next big DLC release being new toys for everyone instead of a new class.
>>572983897The fact that I am still unable to add faces to my rock is insane
whats the difference between chem toxing and explosive strain
give hive scum a spin attack
>>572984267The normal mode (yellow light) applies a large number of pozz stacks to a single target.The alt mode (blue) applies a smaller number of stacks and depending on the mark, either causes pozzed enemies to explode or spread their pozz stacks to nearby when they die.
give hive scum a double jump
Is it on purpose that you can't circle strafe enemies or is it just my connection? I keep getting hit by shit that's either ten feet away or visually hit way away from me. Mostly against melee guys.
Give hive scum friendly fire
>>572872845Any recommendation for some good coop games for 4-5 people? i took some games from the OP and putted them on my list, but still, i'm looking for more
>>572984593that's multiple factors1. your connection2. server location3. enemies are designed to hit you if you're walking awayyou're supposed to push, block or dodge as you're about to be hit, otherwise they skate after you like crazy.
>>572984801Barony, Rabbit and Steel, Ravenswatch, Risk of Rain 2, Jump Space, those are what I can think of that aren't already in the OP.
>>572984801slay the spire 2 has a 4 player multiplayer mode
>>572984975Gotcha. Yeah I understand the hit on backstrafe but I keep wanting to circle enemies to hit behind them and it just doesn't work despite the visuals. Also I see shit that says "weak spot hits". Does that mean headshots?
>sunday morning quickplay>everyone playing is uncarryably bad
ALSO I just figured out you have to manually apply the leveled up bonus on your weapons. Jfc.
>>572984579For what purpose
>last mission for auric storm survivor>join in >replaced a bot that was standing in a fire with 10 health >die instantlymy fault haha
>>572985139yea you have to dodge while strafing them or they'll probably hit you. yes heads are the weak spots of most enemies. I can't remember one where that isn't the case ...
>>572985620the slug boss has the yellow thing on the back
>>572985920looks tasty doesn't it
>>572985403think how cool you'd look double jumping and stabbing a bulwark in his head over his shield.
>>572985920Big clitoris
I boughted and buyted hivescum for the chem stuff but it's too high skillcap I'm sorry
Sell me on why Voltaic Emitter beats Chordclaw
>>572986854>bind jump to side mouse button>just spam dodges mindlessly while you have the dodge nodes + faster dodge recharge with high stamina>basically invincible as long as you keep clicking to stunlock shitits really not that bad desu, thats basically how i played melee vet w/ weapon specialist before scum existed
>>572987050*electrocutes your balls*
>>572987050people press that and become my killfeed
>>572983590it's so awful dude. it's so fucking bad. it might as well be a solo game
How do you fight Ragers? You block an attack, then you get hit on the windup of his next attack when you strike. And the push doesn't stagger him.
>>572987736Dodge their attack, then melee joust them between swings, or ammo permitting just shoot them. Some weapons can interrupt/stagger them (or be built to) for easy bullying.
>>572987736You block and keep blocking, while dodge sliding backwards. If you have enough space, you can shoot it. Or let a team mate kill it. Or let your servo-skull kill it. There are also quite a few other methods of staggering them, like nades, abilities, weapon special attacks..
>>572986059I’ve seen this video many times over the past decade and it never gets old or stops being satisfying
>>572988215Gotcha. Yeah I'm staff Psyker I'm just not gonna fucking melee them then.
Give skitarii a power halberd. T_T
>>572987050Every class can kill stuff easilyVE can apply brittleness on command to everything in 30m and deactivates guns
>>572983590i don't even revive people anymore if they're not within 10m of me when they go down.if they die they die
>>572988302Both staff primary fires can fuck ragers over
>>572988443You've become that guy anon complains about not reviving them....
>>572988380Give Zealot a spear
>>572988761give zealot a fucking sword and shield already
>>572988761a flaming spear even
>>572988443I hit the skull button
>>572988385While true, you have to rely on the three retards to actually do that damage since you're now playing support. Unfortunately, Skitarii isn't Psyker where he can just fucking do support and nuke at the same time.
>>572977904The main things that change how your character "plays" are your choice of special ability, blitz (usually a grenade), and keystone talents. For example one build that I've used with skitarii leans hard on the chordclaw ability with the redline capacitors keystone to grant many usages of the chordclaw strike ability to tear through elites in melee and do lots of boss damage. Another build, which I honestly prefer more, runs voltaic emitter for a more defensive playstyle where I can stun nearby enemies and disable enemy firearms.Skitarii also has some paradigm changing blue talents that give some pretty nice bonuses. The weaponsmith perk lets your weapons passively self-reload ammunition if you go a few seconds without shooting. "Electrostrike conduit" allows your melee critical hits to electrocute targets, which stuns enemies. Normally to kill a bulwark you'd need to time your attacks to damage it while its guard is down, but with electrostrike you can just attack its shield until he gets shocked. That's a completely new avenue for defeating what is normally an obnoxious target. Having that kind of crowd control on your melee strikes in general is pretty useful. The "Ablative wards" talent provides 90% corruption resistance at the cost of constantly taking a little bit of corruption damage over time. That one talent does a shit-ton to defang a lot of hazards that would normally punish you if you made a single slip up.
>>572960373It can't be that easy. I refuse to believe Fatshark are that retarded.
>>572987736>And the push doesn't stagger him.Depends on your weapon and build. Force swords can stagger them. I'm sure some characters can stagger them with talents. Ogryns probably can, but I don't play ogryn. I haven't checked, but skitarii has a talent that gives extra impact on their pushes that might help. Many special abilities like veteran shout will knock them back.But without any crowd control, you block and dodge until you get an opening in their attack chain. In a worst case scenario keep blocking and ping the target so that maybe a teammate might help.
>>572989923Is it because I have deflection?
>>572989525>I refuse to believe Fatshark are that retarded
>>572989923>Tag Ragers while running Noospheric and you back up>Watch the Ragers die
>>572988302>you're a psyker.I haven't played psyker in years, but I'm pretty sure their force swords can straight up throw ragers onto their asses with their pushes. I remember pushing down fucking crushers and bulwarks with that push. I recall the deimos force sword's Heavy 2 attack straight up flinging crushers back in a hillarious fashion.Can any more current psykers chime in?>>572990035I don't think deflection matters. It might be the push attack that follows up after the push? I know it causes a bit of peril meter for the force sword pushes, but I recall them being superb at bullying enemies. But again I haven't played psyker in 2 years.Can any current day psykers chime in? Does deimos still bully ragers and crushers with the push attack or heavy 2?
>>572990168Tell me it at least requires using the alt-mode on the blades.
>>572988829I would love this>>572988871And this is cool too
>>572990296Just to make sure I'm not retarded, pushing is M2+M1, right?
>>572990296The pushattack of the force swords will stop a rager. And the deimos heavy2 still has enough stagger on weakspot to make an ogryn jealous.
>>572973685Yes rankedhomos ruin everything
>>572990340perhaps
>>572990561By default yes, pressing attack when you're holding block
>>572990561Yes, but keep holding down m1 to follow up the push with a push attack. Which for the force swords should be a high stagger "force push" that does fuck all damage but can send a lot of targets staggering backwards
>>572988829>relic shortsword>shield shield>special buffs both so blocking does some reflect damage>just shrink existing relic model to longsword size>slightly size adjusted scab vanguard shield
Where the fucking cultist, fatshit?Where is he?Oh he's below us? In a part of the map we can't get to?Guess we have to fight the demon host now!YAY!!!
>>572991454Oops I meant relic shield*
>>572990916Oooooh. Thanks.
>>572990816>>572990168Exercise caution when posting this semen demon please
>>572991458they should do this more daemonhost isnt that hardshould be able to pull aggro off whoever triggers it tho
>>572988829They should have one.
>>572992102vghmy entire bank account for this drip PLEASE fatshark
>>572991458Your team didnt already shoot it? Mine always done. And if they don't, I do.
>>572992268If a weapon pack dlc is the only way we get new shit like this for existing classes then fuckin fine just sell it to me already swigger assholes
>>572989525Fatshark is one of the Four Swedish Gaming Horsemen of Poorly Managed Games AnonWhat the fuck are you talking about?
>>572992476would be alrightI just want some actual full plate armorthey always have to make the legs rags or remove the gloves, and we have no good helmets like that
>>572992476>>572992619>>572992268shhh the fat shark is sleeping....
>>572992076>>572992460It's a hexbound DH, there's supposed to be a ring of dreg cultists surrounding it and the gimmick is that you kill them before it's summoned. We did that, but apparently there's a single cultist hiding off in the backrooms completely inaccessible to us, thus making the demonhost a guaranteed fight.
ogryn
>>572992102>>572992268Could you imagine if we got Crusader as a Class, INSTEAD of Sororitas?
What's the tell for the webbers?
>>572993319would be kinocrusader is the ultimate self insert class, imagine being the only male serving with the sisters of battle, AND you are the guy running to protect them from demonsguy FUCKS
>>572993631Sound
>>572993631Sight
>>572993319Just imagine four players with melee only classes in every match. Pure high speed violence
>>572993631https://youtu.be/CRssfet26mI?si=bey63vFkx6JsEscR
>come back for skitari>play a bit of ogryn after to try out the new gun buffs>play a game of psyker, immediately feel like a manletholy SHIT i forgot how much harder it is to see in hordes when you play a human character
>>572993669They take classes with them in highschool too.
>>572993631They say something like "wrapping them up" when they spawn
Somewhat I think next class, possibly, it's star nuns from grim fantasy space because skittles lore fluff text in char creation mentioned them, among other hints about afaik eldar, i don't quite remember. Also i realized there are no psykers enemies in game, not real daemons.
>>572993919it's called: Vermintide. Anyway is Daemon Blade or whatever it was called (the game by the dudes that made the meme game E.Y.E.: Divine Cybermancy)
>>572995061vermintide only has 3 melee only classes THO
New>>572995104>>572995104
>>572954101false cringe
>>572992805We should really get a HL crossover>>572993319It’s entirely possible at this point so yeah very imaginable>>572994165Kek
>>572994709I want chaos sorcerers casting farts. and nurglings and giant flies