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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! here we discuss canon video games to sonic!

/sthg/ #9456 - Forgive them father Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/


comic discussion belongs on /co/

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Previous Zone: >>572885079
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>>572911623
>woah we got new cont--
>IT'S SHIT ITS'S SHIT IT'S SHIT SONIC IS DEAD AND IAN FLYNN KILLED IT CRYING LESBIANS IDW JEWISH HELLO KITTY FOR LITTLE BOYS OUT OF CHARACTER UWUVER AND AFRICAN AMERICANS REEEEEEEEEEE
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IDW is trash
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Idea and
Design
Works, LLC
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i like shadally and ken penders book annoys me and i hate hearing about it. shadow talking like a loving husband to sally sounds disgusting to my ears.
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>>572911752
People are mad at the movies even though it's not going to change anything. Sonic is an electric guy now get over it
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>>572911752
Do you think the Sonic fanbase would be better if we didn’t have the dog shit that was Archie on top of the dog shit that was the dark ages games?
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Sonally is tanabata.
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>>572911869
I hate Sally Acorn but I respect this mindset. The forces of nature were against you. You see every single confirmation ever that the ship is OOC for Sonic. Now you learn that the ship is OOC for Sally too and you still keep chugging. I can admire that.
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https://youtu.be/xfJuJrqFhXM?feature=shared

HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY
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I (Espio's human wife) freaking LOVE my beautiful lizard husband!! I kiss his face and hold his hands every day!
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>>572911874
Oddly how I feel about it
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Sonally shippers can rest easy because whatever the fuck the characterization was, OOC or nor, their ship was canon in their own continuity.
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>>572912164
Jesus Christ Based
>>572912253
It's kind of painful that you knowingly used the word "was" because Super Genesis Wave
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He’s the fastest larper alive
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>>572912146
I miss Winx club
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>>572912253
Even within its own continuity, it was never meant to last
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>>572912362
Misspeak and lie
Tourists and larpers
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>>572912398
>penders stays
>the ship breaks up
>penders leaves
>the ship is erased from the timeline
take your pick
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bump and sage in usa flag swimwear
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The way this place talks about Archie you would think that the comic was forcing Sonally down your throat but that really only happens in the "I'll slow down for you" moment
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>>572912113
Tbf I think any ship that requires a serious relationship for Sonic is OOC and doomed to some extent. Still, yeah, appreciate the sentiment from you.
>>572911979
Kek, I guess you're right.
>>572912458
Honestly? What we got. The SGW wiping it out is more dramatic and, idk, tragic(?) a way for it to end, compared to the stupid shit Penders had planned. Makes it a bit more similar to Sonaze, which I prefer anyway. Star-crossed lovers who shared a brief spark but who could never be anything serious due fate and also who they were as people.
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>>572912571
Sonic married Sally in one of Silver parallel timelines
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>>572912164
Did you like the glasses art Tomoko Hayane did, Espioyume?
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Are there any more ships like Shadally? As in "The creator would have done it if he was allowed to keep going on his autism" kind of ships? Ships that never happened but were going to. We've heard of ships that did happen but got destroyed, what about the opposite?
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I'm currently re-reading and catching up on IDW to see if it really did just devolve into crying lesbians + Sonic. After all, I can't really enjoy or hate something without actually experiencing it myself. I always felt like the Metal Virus arc went way too ham for the first major arc of IDW Sonic. I didn't like it then, and I still don't care much for it now.
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>>572912590
Thanks for confirming that Sonazefags have the same mental illness as Sonallyfags
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>>572912590
>Honestly? What we got. The SGW wiping it out is more dramatic and, idk, tragic(?) a way for it to end, compared to the stupid shit Penders had planned.
People are acting as if Penders version of the story would have saved Sonic's character from the Archie romance mischaracterization but it's obvious he would have made it worse. It wasn't fixing Sonic's OOC behavior in Archie, it was shitting on it while doubling down on it. Making Archie Sonic watch as his one true love is in a better relationship with a better version of himself (Shadow)? That isn't Sonic being the wind that's Sonic being a fucking cuck. If Penders had any intention of "Fixing" Sonic's character then Sonic wouldn't care about this at all.
And none of that garbage they did with Archie Amy where the cucked character approves of what is being done to them. The only "good" version of this is if Sonic just didn't care.
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>>572911869
I personally never liked it and thankful it's not a thing anymore, but I never thought there was so much shit internally to smear the pairing and then have of disposed of. And even when it tried to come back, it was snuffed out anyway once again by internal factors. Everything about Sonally can be boiled down to sabotage
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>>572912164
Fuck off retard
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>>572912563
Knowing Bump she’d think this is for Christmas and not the Fourth
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>>572912804
Is still the best arc of IDW. Ever since Sonic fight Surge everything rushed except the phantom rider arc
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>>572912893
I never really liked Sonally and I agree with all the people saying it never lined up with Sonic's character but what Penders is doing to it is like watching your somewhat annoying coworker get stabbed to death. I didn't ask for that.
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>>572912723
She drew the cuff of his glove a bit wrong and I am autistically fixated on that, but besides that, YES!!! I LOVE IT!!!
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>>572912884
>People are acting as if Penders version of the story would have saved Sonic's character
No one thinks that. But Sonic not being with Sally is reasonable. But Penders never cared about Sonic because he didn't have the same complexities and backstories as Shadow and his version of Knuckles.
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Penders literally didn't accomplish anything in life except dismantling archie and undoing Sonally. His entire legacy is just the ruination of a comic that people loved.
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>>572912164
Best artist in the general
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>>572913167
He gave Gamechads a W by killing the OOC comic and he did it again by dumping mud on its grave.
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>>572913069
I was going to clown on Sonallyfags but the Sonallyfag who commented earlier saying this news just made him sad changed my mind.
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What was that thing about how Marvel executives actually hate the idea of Spider-man and Mary Jane together? So basically Archie was that.
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I’m glad there are no mysteries left to Sonally and nobody will talk about it ever again
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>>572913362
They were more smug when they thought Archie was the pairings golden grail only to find out decades later that some of the people writing it didn't like Sonally either and wanted it gone and you can even see some of the efforts to do that in the comic itself.
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>>572913494
It should be put to rest now. We know literally every detail about why it didn't work. Time to move on.
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>>572913481
They think Spiderman getting into a relationship or god forbid getting married to Mary Jane will ruin his character and hold him back.
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>>572913592
Why does that sound so fucking familiar
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>>572913494
Tragic. If there is ever another Archie Sonic storytime, there are going to be different vibes.
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>>572913506
>some of the people writing it didn't like Sonally either and wanted it gone and you can even see some of the efforts to do that in the comic itself.

They weren't even subtle about it
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>>572912831
Well that's not very kind.
>>572912893
That's fair. It's funny how the Archie discussions here always tend to obsess over Sonic's relationship romance (no pun intended), which was a big part of the comic no doubt, but like that was never what really interested me. Shit like the wider world, wacky scenarios, strange characters, and so on are what I liked most about Archie, flawed as it was. Plus there's the "So bad it's good" bits to enjoy as well.
>>572912884
Yeah, exactly. Shadow is literally my 2nd favorite character but making him this ultra-Casanova who humiliates Sonic by plowing his love is honestly super fucking cringe. Having Archienic fully commit to "the Wind" bit and forsaking any relationships deeper than his friendship/brotherhood with Tails would've actually been cool, but that's not at all what Penders had in mind it seems.
>>572913167
Okay when you put it like that it actually sounds kinda based desu

Anyway, can someone make one of the memes like picrel with this new Shadally and Sonic knowledge? It's only natural
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>>572913268
Artist that draws the same shit every week
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I think Shadow deserves as many blonde white woman as he can handle.
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>>572913802
Let he without autism cast the first stone.
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>>572913763
>Having Archienic fully commit to "the Wind" bit and forsaking any relationships deeper than his friendship/brotherhood with Tails would've actually been cool, but that's not at all what Penders had in mind it seems.
Why do Sonadowfags always get it?
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>>572913763
>Anyway, can someone make one of the memes like picrel with this new Shadally and Sonic knowledge? It's only natural
The Penders version of this wouldn't even be them having sex, it would just be Sonic seeing Shadow and feeling like this
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I thought the OP said we were supposed to only be talking about the canon video games.
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>>572914109
>Sonic runs by.
>Sees Shadow and Sally happily married with their three kids.
>Sonic becomes depressed and slows down until he's just dragging his feet away with his head down.
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>tails isn't a fighter in the animation
Either they didn't bother showing what he's doing, or they're doubling down on just him being on his ipad.
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>>572914257
>slows down
IC for Archienic
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>>572914261
Frontiers "development" was just a load of nothin' lol.
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>>572914261
Bro Tails has been the IPad kid for most of his existence, you need to get over it
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Imagine the kind of unhinged shit Ian and Evan will say in 20 years once they've left IDW
Ian will probably say he wanted Amy to fully move on and come out as a lesbian. Evan will say that Silver took up knitting
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>>572913763
Was the gay Yaoi NTR necessary?
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>>572914414
Ian will say he wanted Amy to move on with Surge (whom Amy will fix) and Sonic will be hit with realization that he "missed his chance" with Amy.

Evan will say she wanted Silver to be bisexual.
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>already holding the ipad
I want SA2 Tails back...
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>>572914581
I want SA2 everything back but the time is long past.
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Shadow deserves Maria
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>>572913763
>pic
This was the first time I ever sided with an IDW writer. Jetfags suddenly decided to go full purist over the preview of a comedy comic and started harassing a newbie writer for "belittling" and "mischaracterizing" Jet for "sonadow". Fucking unhinged. Jetfags will never be taken seriously.
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Penders should write the games
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>>572914653
Stop making Jet an ooc joke Ian
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>>572914392
If Tails is supposed to be lame now, why is he in so much porn especially cuckoldery?
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>>572913947
Not a Sonadow guy lol. Only straight ships for me. Just needed a meme to demonstrate what I was referring to.
>>572914109
>>572914257
Yeah but, see, that's just not as funny. It's sad, actually. When you do a cuck meme, you need to go all in to one extreme or another. Either have them sobbing in despair to an absurd degree or show them totally nonchalant, like picrel. Stray too close to a "sensible" middle ground and it stops being funny and starts being sad.
>>572914540
Yes.
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>>572914754
Because he's cute. People want to fuck Tails the same way they want to fuck Amy
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>>572914414
Evan gave Silver a garden and that’s more than what Sega has done for him in 20 years. Apologize
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I don't think Shadow would like Sally even if she would like him
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>>572914897
Shadow doesn't like anything or anyone. His whole existence is just to be a edgy anti hero who swears and uses guns.
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>>572914740
Do we really need the games to focus on characters falling in love and getting jealous of each other
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Hello, I've been away for about 4 months cause I don't really care about current Sonic anymore because everything made for the franchise now has been excessively lame and completely out of touch.
I haven't touched on Sonic news or this general, what's everyone been up to?
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>>572915036
he likes cute aryan girls
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>>572915061
Cuckoldry sales, and japan loves NTR
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>>572915079
I assume you're up to date on Penders
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>>572915117
He likes ONE cute Aryan girl who is dead
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>>572915079
Begone Archiefag, back to your cave
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>>572912742
The obvious example is that Ash Ketchum would have ended up with Serena if the fans didn't sperg out
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>>572915036
Shadow should say fuck
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>>572915235
I think its good that Ash will remain pure. Women are vile.
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>>572915351
Pokewindfag?
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>>572915146
Penders hasn't been relevant since 2010.
Yet he's still the boogie man that every nasally voiced 16 year old with a usb microphone has to have an obsessive compulsion to make boring video essays on.
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>>572915079
Heya, Nikki!
>>572915209
Shut your pilehole
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What the fuck happened last thread? Why did we suddenly go so fast?
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>>572911623
Just saw it, it looked gay.
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>>572915613
Sonic
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>>572915613
New animation
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>>572915613
Discord raid
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>>572915613
>what happened last thread?
>ignores the OP
I want to smack you.
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I think Shadow's only love interest is Maria but I haven't been able to think of a way to word it that doesn't sound like I'm trying to shit on someone so I'm just saying this instead of what I was going to say
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>>572915808
Why didn't you just say "I think Shadow's only love interest is Maria."?
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>>572915613
Combination of 2 people having a melty, a new sonic animation so we got old posters coming back to check what's up and discordfags.
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>>572915862
If a Shadria comment sounds too blunt or aggressive here it gets attributed to the wrong person
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>>572915453
>>572915209
This place is so samefag heavy that I still thing these chains are from the same person trying to start an chain war.
I just don't see that kind of thread interesting...
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>>572915937
We can't walk on eggshells because some people are immature.
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>>572912146
Kino
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I don’t understand why Discord users come to this site
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https://archiveofourown.org/works/87902621/chapters/232978211

Here's something fun.
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>>572916160
Who's she?
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>>572916180
A very foolish person.
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>>572915937
Never hold back
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>>572916180
How the fuck should I know?
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Maria cannot be a love interest because she is not a character, she is a plot device. Rin Nohara was not Kakashi or Obito's love interest.
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>>572916424
Bro the women in Naruto aren't character even if they are alive
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>>572916424
Literally all Naruto women are plot devices who either die or get pregnant
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>>572916486
>>572916519
Sakura was most definitely a character and Hinata was debatably one albeit for a short time. Sakura was the love interest of both Naruto and Sasuke, Maria has always been a prop in Shadow's backstory, not a character in her own right.
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>>572916675
Literally all Sakura does is stand around the kitchen and talk about her husband. Even Amy has more going on these days.
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>>572916675
>Sakura was most definitely a character

No.
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>Using Naruto as a metric for anything.
Mmmmm yes, exquisite bait. Delectable.
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>>572916424
Maria is Shadow's wife
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The movies zombified this franchise, it should have petered out and died and just remained a thing for fans with some appearances in media.
Instead it's paraded around by people with zero ideas.
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>>572916832
Only in the Max Payne sense
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>>572916891
Every game release is going to be built around movie tie ins
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>>572916724
>thinking in current terms
From the beginning Sakura was a love interest of Naruto and Sasuke, even though she wasn't a good character she still was one. It's not about quality, it's about volition. This point has literally nothing to do with how good any of them are written.
>>572916728
>>572916753
Not a metric, an example.
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>>572916891
This has been the case since 2006 nigga
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Hey guys what if Shadow met a fighter pilot Maria and then she died
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>>572916832
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Man it would have been really cool if Boom killed this series for good. Then I wouldn't be dealing with you fags.
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Just leave you soulless faggot.
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>>572916963
>From the beginning Sakura was a love interest of Naruto and Sasuke
Yeah like 15 years ago grandpa. Now she's a housewife
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>it's all her fault!
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Sonic the electrichog
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This nigga talking about Naruto like it didn't end a whole decade ago.
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>>572917183
>>572917235
I think you might be missing the point
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EXIT
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Sonic ended 20 years ago.
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>>572917273
Who the fuck invited Knuckles here
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Kill and rape uncs.
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>>572917364
Are you stupid as hell?
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>>572917269
No one sees Sakura as a character especially nowadays. She's literally just a background generic mom character who's a single parent.
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>>572917235
the target audience of naruto wasn't even born last time sakura had a fight scene
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Unc franchise
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>>572917467
Who cares what she's seen as? She had autonomy and an uncertain future at some point.
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>>572917436
How am I stupid
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>>572917532
I don’t like new franchises like digital circus and undertale they keep telling me i should transition and it makes me uncomfortable
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>>572915937
There are people here who will attribute anything to Krack no matter how it's phrased
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Will Amy have her own "I FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO YOU GUYS!" moment?
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>>572917612
I disagree.
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>>572916262
I would prefer no spats and I already said as much as soon as the preview went up. Stop asking stupid questions. Amy is for panchira.
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>>572917730
In Shuffle she said her dream was to become like Sonic
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>>572917760
It's not an opinion.
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>See Archie Sonic Forever mentioned in the previous thread
>Scroll through the first issue
>Mina Mongoose just casually has her titties out
Oh, ok.
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anons, is this better than almost every sonic animation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPIo5k2Zqu8
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>>572917810
SOA is just going to take every last piece of Amy away over time
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>>572917685
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>>572917891
Then I will become the most obnoxious canonfag fanartist and fanfiction writer the world has ever known.
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As I sit, as I stand
By the table I command
My Kingdom
I'm the Knight of the Lighting
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>>572917868
there is no fucking reason to draw this other than to show off her tits
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>>572913816
agreed
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If it isn't the 4th wheel
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That Knuckle Sandwich/Shadow of Rain dude seems so hyped for the 35th Anniversary short, he’s gonna be so pissed or enter full cope mode once he finds out that it’s written by Ian Flynn
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>>572911752
>At least you got a cartoon...
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>>572917962
They literally tell me to cry about it, and they also have realistic depictions of panic attacks, i should just take estrogen
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>>572918016
Wait, that was a real game and not a fever dream I had?
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>>572918086
Sonic should be grateful it didn't fall like so many others.
Hell even Crash should be proud of what it's accomplished so far.
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good sites to groom underage sonic fans?
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>>572917006
No no, there was a genuine autistic love from the creators that was pushing this franchise through pure soul. The games were shit, but still had a fun drive behind it.
The new people behind it, they're doing what they THINK they should be doing, stuff to impress the social mediascape around it. They have no ideas of their own or wants or vision. They really don't understand what it's like to think of what was cool when they were a kid, which is why their ideas are so ungodly lame.
I'm calling it now, the next IDW villain will be a random toon town animal drawn from a hat that is a normal profession like... a banker, or telemarketer, or a building planner, and they'll dress up in a villain outfit at night to steal the chaos emeralds. And that's, not Sonic, Sonic characters don't have day jobs or whatever, and if they do, we're suppose to know so little about it that it doesn't matter. They're unable to go back and look at Sonic and just keep writing the same shit with a Sonic mask over it.
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>>572917891
I’ve gotten so sick and tired of SOA. How do we stop them?
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>>572917878
It's on the same tier as Sonic OVA, since it is from around the same time. Also, up to Pèrsona 3, Persona was still a spin-off from Shin Megami Tensei. So you still feel the "edge" the old team had, and if you don't have some actual occult knowledge, you don't fully understand the story.
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>>572918217
>Crash should be proud
No he shouldn't. He should be perpetually pissed off that his various dads never came back for him. Same thing with Spyro.

I hope that pajeet running xbox right now starts selling IPs. Maybe then we can get some redemption for all those dead IPs. I know for a fact that Oshima would love to buy Blinx from M$.
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>>572911978
I think you're a contrarian.
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>>572917891
>>572918363
Do all the bad things people claimed Gamergate did only ten times worse. If that sound crazy, remember: You rent your games now.
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>>572917232
>No Sally, Fiona is not to blame for you molesting a little boy.
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>>572893073
>this cartoon character offends my sensibilities!
honestly wtf is wrong with donut lord people
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>>572911874
Penders writes Shadow as if he's self-inserting as SALLY
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>>572918369
>I know for a fact that Oshima would love to buy Blinx from M$
Source?
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>>572918441
We need to keep bringing attention to what SOA has done to Amy on social media and we need to keep complaining to SOJ about it without giving up
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>>572918441
>Gamergate
More like GrifterGate
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"wanna do something foolish?"
"you even have to ask?"
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Lightningnic
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>>572919297
does this actually make people angry
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>>572919143
>Grifter
I suspect I know your political views based on the fact that you’re using that word but don’t know what it means
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>572919143
So they still have bots trigged by the GG word huh. Guess all that funding is still coming.
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i don't really think blazamy works currently but a hypothetical male amy thats slightly more serious and powerful would be the best love interest for her.
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>>572919297
Electronic the hedgehog
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>>572919889
>i don't really think blazamy works
literally no amy ships work. she has oneitis for loveless windhog
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>>572919297
Nunic is always lame.
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>>572919289
Sonic X is fun, anon.
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>>572919941
i meant in a non logistical way, regardless i think blaze's love interest should be similar to amy but male, even if people think its faggy or whatever. it works better than making it sonic-like.
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Most of the Sonic fans are larping because what do you mean nearly nobody did read these Sonic Channel bios before they were translated
They are now defending Electronic the Hedgehog with this bio like that bio was made last week
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>>572920795
But Sonic is electric now, they're real fans. Windnic was a 2000s retcon.
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>>572919297
you know sonic is based on dragonball right? he's supposed to be this little blue goku animal cartroon videogame thing that is exactly like goku
nigga he can go super sonic and get a yellow aura around him JUST LIKE GOKU why arent you complaining about lightning then? retard
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>>572911623
Classic Knuckles > Modern Knuckles
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>>572920848
>Larp adventure
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>>572920851
No kidding
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this is what is known as a super sonic that has ascended above a super sonic. or, you could just call this a super sonic two
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>>572920848
ayo bro fo real dawg
>Shaves the sides of my head and turns my hair into a broccoli stalk
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>>572919289
If you have any criticism or want to say something, I would like to hear, anon. I'm trying my best to write something fun, and any comments can help me grow.
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>>572920246
Only season 3 is good.
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>>572921116
Bruh, let me show you

>"And THIS, is a Super Sonic that has ascended ABOVE Super Sonic.
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>>572919889
Nothing works anymore, all the fun to be had with the characters has been drained away.
They're all neon colored shells now.
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I don't know why we're arguing about this like it's some kind of artistic decision and not just movie synergy
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>bottom barrel furry dbz posts
yeah the thread is dead
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yeah so i dont wanna hear no more about "sonic can use electricity" what hte fuck yoiu think the stars invicibility ins sonic the hedgehog 1 is? or the literally lighting bubble in sth2 and 3? you guys are retarded he always had some kind of super power and is based on goku

you guys are just really dumb and need to stop posting its like all the retarded comments about this same talking point i see on the official twitter post about it the community is actually just a bunch of retarded man-children or something thet way they are crying about something that has no baring in reality since he's always had powers and access to all kinds of shit nigga he goku fr the saviour of earth when earth is being invaded by robots and aliens from dr robotnik and shit who earth niggas call? thjey call sonic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS4MqksyRYs
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>>572911469
It is not her sole trait but it is an important one.
I hate how you people can have 0 nuance on this. Its like if its a trait at all, its suddenly her only one to you people. Its wild.
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They're rehiring the guy who ruined the tone of Sonic
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>>572921508
>>572921529
u retarded bruh

Yuji Naka was a huge dbz nigga even the special stages in sth1 are based on dbz

dbz = goku collects the seven dragon balls and summons a dragon and asks for something

sonic = gets the seven gems and becomes super sonic and then does something

u niggs rly dont know this??

shadow = vegeta
silver = trunks

Silver and Trunks: Both are time-travelers from a post-apocalyptic or doomed future who travel back in time to save their timelines from destruction

Dragon Ball Inspired Sonic the Hedgehog

you 4chan niggs be so retarded... fuh real

you niggas never used your eyes or brain or anything for real EVEN ROBOTNIK IS BASED ON FRIEZA YOU DUMB NIGGAHHH TYPE SHI NONNYS!!
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I think I understand now. Yes. The missing link in all of this.
We need someone to research what anime and shows locally aired on television around the Tokyo area between the late 70's and most of the 80's. That'll show us what anime the creators of Sonic grew up with and by extension give us insight into exactly what Sonic Team was going for with Sonic.

Obviously we know Dragon Ball has its influence but what about Sailor Moon? Honestly it doesn't look like Sailor Moon had any influence on this franchise which would make sense because despite its popularity the people who made Sonic and the rest of the franchise were men and probably didn't watch Sailor Moon.
Things to also consider is how PSME influenced SA2. If we can tap into the minds and childhood of people like Naka and Iizuka, we'll unlock the core code of Sonic.
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Three kids. Penders said three kids.
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>>572922048
>Dragonball
no habla espanol
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>>572922106
I can point out something, but some people might not like...
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>>572920407
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>>572922157
retarded american

DUM AHH NIGGGAAAAA

>>572922106
yes rouge is inspired by sailor moon until they pivoted to jenifer lopez / latina women influence
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>>572921807
Wonder what he’s going to do to Amy. The absolute state of the franchise right now, man
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4CHAN DOESNT KNOW ANYTHING

DUMB NIGGERS
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>>572922048
>>572922259
>>572920848
>Dragon Ball Inspired Sonic the Hedgehog
>you 4chan niggs be so retarded... fuh real
Can you talk normally retard. Also no you're wrong. Dbz inspired stuff in Sonic 2, and you could stretch shit from there.
Yuji Naka and Sonic itself was inspired by golden age cartoons from the beginning, not dragon ball.
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>>572914754
>lame now
>now
He's been lame since after Heroes.
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So that's who was freaking out about Sonic X yesterday
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>lowtest tourist is shitting up the thread
go back you huge faggot
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Also
>be grateful, it's the only thing we have for the 35th anniversary
Just proves nobody really cared about that Chaotix Podcast
And that the only thing we have is shit
Sonicfags really are cattle
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kill all shitgon ball spics
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>>572922363
RETARD THIS IS AN EMBARRASSING LOOK FOR YOU I LITERALLY JUST POSTED IT

I am typing like this to piss you guys off since you're all retarded as fuck anyway.

DUM AAHHH NIGGA FR

>>572922448
see? he mad

fucking >tourist and doesnt know about the db inspo what ar retard holyshit babs first sonic game was '06 om om om om om lule kekw
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>>572922434
I thought it was Krack
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>>572922360
>>572922259
Play Unleashed and tell me if you see Picolo and Gohan there. That relationship is dead since 2008
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>tourist spic melty
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Someone said they were missing Sparky yesterday... Well, there you have it now.
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>>572922048
>EVEN ROBOTNIK IS BASED ON FRIEZA
Holy shit you are actually retarded. Sonic 1 wasn't based off dragon ball.
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>>572922363
Do you think Dragon Ball was somehow just completely irrelevant until Frieza saga?
>Golden Age of cartoons
Yes he's clearly based of Mickey Mouse's artstyle and he clearly adopts the sarcastic attitude of Bugs Bunny but literally every single animal mascot since those two have copied off them in some way. Do you not understand archetypes?
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the earliest metaphor for sonic was sunnic from what i know of in knuckles box art but idk if someone can correct me
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>every post i disagree with is a spic
classic amerilard defense

meanwhile jp niggas literally telling you what sonic is and where he came from >>572922360
>>572922259
DUM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I SAID 4CHAN NIGGERS DONT USE THEIR EYES OR BRAINS AND YOU ARE PROVING ME RIGHT

>muh spic

kill yourself man

>>572922673
HOLY SHIT
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>>572922681
>Do you think Dragon Ball was somehow just completely irrelevant until Frieza saga?
Not the point retard. I'm saying Sonic started without dragon ball influence. Then adopted stuff from it later.
>Golden Age of cartoons
>Yes he's clearly based of Mickey Mouse's artstyle and he clearly adopts the sarcastic attitude of Bugs Bunny but literally every single animal mascot since those two have copied off them in some way. Do you not understand archetypes?
What about that is saying he doesn't have cartoon archetypes. That's the point I'm making.
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>>572922434
sonic x is relevant because a lot of stuff in it is expansion of what they wanted to put in the games, shadow's limiter rings were confirmed to have been there from the start but they didn't have time to add it in SA2 instead of x, for example.

i don't think it should take importance beyond the games, but you can use it to hold your hand and read how it can fit to the games.
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>>572922734
>delusional spic melty
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I don't know what dragon ball is
I don't know who Michael Jackson is
I don't know what Archie is
I don't know what Felix the Cat is
I don't know who Naka is
I just want news movies and games
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>>572922434
So he legitimately cannot control himself and will just go straight to his blog about shit he argued about here
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[mariachi music intensifies]
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>>572922834
>retarded american cant use eyes and brain melty
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>>572922998
Are you done shitting up the thread, spic. Time for you to go back to your discord.
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I DID IT!
I finally beat Sonic Superstars story mode! I put it off for years cause every time I picked it up the bosses pissed me off, but I finally did it!

....Now I gotta do Trip's bullshit story...
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>>572922772
>I'm saying Sonic started without dragon ball influence.
Impossible to genuinely say that. You have to put yourself in the mindset of a bunch of early 20 yo Japanese game enthusiasts when they were in that SEGA creative room, creating Sonic and Eggman and Sonic 1.
They've talked about it before but only in hindsight and corporate lawyers telling not to mention certain influences by name too much. Not the full story obvious.
It's impossible to say genuinely how deep Dragon Ball is in this franchise's DNA because if they were already thinking about Super Sonic before the time even Sonic 1 released then that's proof DB had influence since the beginning.
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>>572919889
You just described Sonic but is into romance and isnt as windy.
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>>572923083
Normally I would laugh at you but Trip bosses were bullshit
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>>572923084
>>I'm saying Sonic started without dragon ball influence.
>Impossible to genuinely say that. You have to put yourself in the mindset of a bunch of early 20 yo Japanese game enthusiasts when they were in that SEGA creative room, creating Sonic and Eggman and Sonic 1.
>They've talked about it before but only in hindsight and corporate lawyers telling not to mention certain influences by name too much. Not the full story obvious.
>It's impossible to say genuinely how deep Dragon Ball is in this franchise's DNA because if they were already thinking about Super Sonic before the time even Sonic 1 released then that's proof DB had influence since the beginning.
Retard, there weren't even 7 emeralds in the beginning. You're just spamming headcanon.
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>>572923049
aRE YOU donE beInG ReTaRdED 'murrican time for jew to eat your goyslop

anyway i made my point and it is the correct one, as i said alot of you 4chan retards will flat out deny any existance or connection to the dragon ball inspiration which is pretty sad and to be honest, fucking pathetic, since you consider yourself a fan but deny the gods very own words on their own creation you are basically the devil, alas, you are a fat ass dumb ass american and need to waste my time no further

I SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH YOU BIG APE MONKEY BRAIN AMERICAN kill yourself also
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>>572923201
holy spic melty
>discord troon seething about 4chan again
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>>572923083
I still have to finish Trip's story because the last boss is so long and annoying...
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>>572923183
>Retard, there weren't even 7 emeralds in the beginning.
>You're just spamming headcanon.

HOLY
>>572923084
Don't argue with these retards they don't use their eyes or brains, they are 4chan retards, their opinions probably get shut down on every other website in existance because it is factually wrong


>>572923238
holy retard you're extremely retarded ask the mods for my ip you'll see im not a spic ddumb fuck american NIG AHH TIKTOK BRAIN AHH SOMALIAN FRAUD WELFARE STATE AHH NIGGER AHH DAH BIH GUH PINEAPPLE SLICE COOL-AID SIPPING DUMB NIGGER
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>>572923201
>>572923321
4chan chads are telling you that you're a fake fan that thinks this this entire series was kickstarted by dragon ball (like spics that think dragon ball is the only anime that exists) when all your info is post-sonic 2. You're the one getting into a meltdown because of facts.
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>>572923321
relax m8 we're just giving you grief for liking dragonball, hilarious little fucker
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>>572923321
>>Retard, there weren't even 7 emeralds in the beginning.
>>You're just spamming headcanon.

>HOLY
So the tourist doesn't even play the sonic games, got it.
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>>572922259
According to Sonic Team, the chaos emeralds paralell8ng thr drsgonballs is a coincidence. There was originally 6. The reason there are 7 is jist because they wanted an explanation for why you couldn't go super in the first game.

Also, there wasnt even a fixed number of them innthe Classic era to begin with. They were originally magical miracle fossil fuel rather than a specific set of relics.

The only thing you can really say is the idea of them scattering is likely a reference to DB, but that was added in modern when they were retconned.
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>>572923321
>discord spic tourist thinks his delusions are reality again
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>>572923321
>NIG AHH TIKTOK BRAIN AHH SOMALIAN FRAUD WELFARE STATE AHH NIGGER AHH DAH BIH GUH PINEAPPLE SLICE COOL-AID SIPPING DUMB NIGGER
Spic melty
Do you really think the nigger word scares people on this site, you really are a newfag
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>spic
>spic
>spic
Average 4chan Americans first defence

why are you guys so retarded?

>>572923593
>Do you really think the nigger word scares people on this site
Do you really think the spic word scares people on this site
You really are a retard
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>>572922681
>he clearly adopts the sarcastic attitude of Bugs Bunny
No this is false. Sonic isn't like bugs bunny at all. Bugs bunny isnt golden age.
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>Sonic isn't like Bugs Bunny at all.
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>>572923751
>Average 4chan Americans first defence
>Do you really think the nigger word scares people on this site
>Do you really think the spic word scares people on this site
>You really are a retard
>Complete n-no u from this spic
You're the one having a meltdown from this single word since it describes you to a T, tourist. Go back already.
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so what happens to amy in ken penders future
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Oh shit, all the emeralds carry over to Trip's story too? Nice, this might actually be fun
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>>572923969
Maybe him and Bollers were gonna have him go on adventures with Amy
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>Average 4chan take

>>572923931
holy retardoly he still didnt realize its eu hours kill yourself already by injecting oreo grease straight into your heart, because its black and white, just like you amerimutt XDD
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>>572923885
This is such a great reaction image. TGT Tails level even.
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>>572923969
She 41%ed
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>>572923969
If Sally gets Shadow doesn't that automatically mean Amy finally wins
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>>572924094
>Spic melting down again
Didn't you say you were leaving earlier
>and need to waste my time no further,
Seems like you're crawling back instead of leaving, pathetic.
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>>572924094
>literally using brown reaction images
you're btfoing yourself
4chan wins again, you lost
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>>572924206
>>572924279
>the american brain cant comprehend a euro using kekw "reaction image"

kill yourselves why havent you killed yourselves yet? they are talking about dbz on /v/ btw

>>>/v/742535707

dumb fuck american vg nooblords what are you gonna do now? shit out of your butt? XD
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>>572924426
>kill yourselves why havent you killed yourselves yet? they are talking about dbz on /v/ btw
>>>/v/742535707
>brown spic thinks linking /v/ to /vg/ makes his posts any less retarded
More evidence you're a tourist.
You said you were leaving many posts ago. So you admit we have power over you no matter what you say next and you keep crawling back to us. You're a worm that needs his bottle at this point. Your desperation is setting in.
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>>572924489
Spongebob-looking ass
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>>572923084
Gonna point something out.

Sonic 1 development was around the late 80s. And Dragon Ball Z only started to take off in the 90s. The original concept of Sonic being cool was around. But there's one point that some Western people may not get. The concept of cool for Japan is different from the concept of cool for Westerners. Let's say the cool for westerners would be the "radical" and the cool for Japanese is something more inspiring.

Sonic 1 was completely done with the idea of Japanese cool. So if Sonic had any influence on "Cool" from that time, it would be the concept of cool from that time, which was... Hokuto no Ken. Certain aspects of Sonic even got certain points from Kenshiro. like how he goes from one place to another and helps people, and just leaves without saying anything, never smiling. Then, around the time of STI, they made some changes and incorporated some American style, and it was then that Naka decided to include references to DBZ. While Oshima remained with the Hokuto no Ken, even including the Pink little girl who follows him.

There were other stuff from current shows that aired on the Showa era, even some stuff from Javan or Rider Black that may have influenced them. This was not uncommon around that time.
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>>572924426
looks like they're shitting on dbz on that v post, kek, spic wants a humiliation ritual
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POV you are a fat loser that doesn't know anything about sonic posting on 4chan at this time of day

Sad, many such cases!
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>projection
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>>572924749
>The concept of cool for Japan is different from the concept of cool for Westerners. Let's say the cool for westerners would be the "radical" and the cool for Japanese is something more inspiring.
The kind of cool Sonic was inspired by fit older concepts of cool in the 80s of cool in the west regardless. Its how you get the Michael Jackson influences.
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>The spic is still comes back after he apparently "had no time left for us"
Guess 4chan's words mean way more to him than he pretends it doesn't
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POV It's between midnight and 4am and you are calling people who are not spanish, spanish, while refusing to admit the link between dragonball and sonic which has been established as fact by the creators of sonic themselves, many years ago.

POV you have no arguement for this so you resort to "spic" and "brown"

American brain in action
>4chan
ishygddt

>>572925173
the american will die of cardiovascular disease from staying up late at night shitposting on 4chan over nothing and eat fatty foods made with non-organic materials

lmao@urlife
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Why are you guys so mean to eachother?
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>>572925271
I wish I could PLAP his ASS
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>the spic
Who is this legendary hacker known as 4chan?

holy BIG BRAIN in here wow sthg gotta be one of the shittest generals
for real
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>>572925271
>>572925289
Me too, tails is built for men
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>>572925253
>POV, spic says he's leaving and keeps coming back like a lost needy creature
4chan wins every time you post more delusions instead of leaving on your word many posts ago. Reply again to lose more, we have you rent free.
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>>572925271
Momma foxa
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>>572925381
you're still posting on it and bumping sthg btw, keep seething about 4chan, spic
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>>572925289
>>572925382
Tails is an 8 year old boy
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>goalposts moved so far the discussion isnt even about dbz + sonic connection anymore

you're so retarded it hurts
you think me posting here is losing my time or something?
i said i would "leave"?
lmao

let me know when you can refute the words of Yasushi Yamaguchi himself, surely an american 4chan anon will know more about that than him, it should be a great back and forth to see! especially when their main argument is uhhhhhhhh uhhhhhh yasushi is a spic!!! there so i win!

i think we're done here

kill yourselves, its the 4th of july!
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>>572925556
>goalposts moved so far the discussion isnt even about dbz + sonic connection anymore
projecting
>i said i would "leave"?
Yes here spic. >>572923201
You keep crawling back to 4chan
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Reality Path 1: Shadally becomes canon to Archie. Ken Penders doesn't sue over Dark Brotherhood.

Reality Path 2. Archie gets rebooted. Ian Flynn works on the games.
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So did Sega just decide to one up Ken by releasing a teaser for the new Sonic cartoon a day after the Shadow Files drop?

Also, Snively didn't kill himself.
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>>572925556
>brown spic says he's leaving again
finally the delusion ends, hopefully he actually isn't lying to cope again, 4th of july just got a little better
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I'm going to bed, y'all are being too stupid for me tonight.
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tailspedo hours
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Amy needs better merch i hope next year is the year of amy
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>>572925781
It will be the Year of Metal.
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>>572925781
Amy is a worthless character. She doesn't even have panty shots anymore. Why bother?
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>>572911623
Shonen slop
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DAH BIH GUH FR NIGGA DAH BIH SONIC WHAT YOU SAID DAH BIH SONIC IS BASED ON DRAGUN BAWL?? LOL SPIC!!! AINT NO *HAWK-TUAH* PATOOH! PFF PUH PUH PUH PUH PUH PUH PUH AINT NO WHITE MAN MEAN AMERICAN GONNA 'SSOCIATE WITH NO DARN ROOTIN' TOOTIN' HUH FOOEY-PATOOEY HUZZAH WUH SPANISH PEA PULL!!!

WHAT A SPIC HAS SUMFIN TO DO WITH DEE BEE ZEE? HUH TROO THAS RIGH' THE JAPANESE ANIMU AND MANGO IS SPANISH-CODED!!!!! IM REAL WARM BLOODID MERRICAN AINT NO SPIC HERE

SONIC AND DBZ? HO-NO BABY, WHAT IS U DOIN?

YOU SEE IM REAL WHITE MURRICAN AINT NO SPIC AND JAPS TELLIN' ME WHAT FOR SONIC AND DBZ IS LINKED... THE CREATOR OF ALL HUMAN KIND WAS A REAL WHITE MAN... JOHN KENNEDY HEYUP THAS RIGH'

You are actively shortening your life span by being awake at these hours if you are American btw LMAO LOL

WHAT U SAYED SONIC AINT NO 'LECTRICK BALL ' O ' LIGHTNIN' ? SHIIIIIIIIEEEEEEET WAS UP FOO' TELL THESE SPICS THAT TROO UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbWtVZuR8w
Action "choreography" these days
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>>572925838
Someday you will grow up and realize that spats are just as good if not better than panties
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>DAH BIH GUH FR NIGGA DAH BIH SONIC WHAT YOU SAID DAH BIH SONIC IS BASED ON DRAGUN BAWL?? LOL SPIC!!! AINT NO *HAWK-TUAH* PATOOH! PFF PUH PUH PUH PUH PUH PUH PUH AINT NO WHITE MAN MEAN AMERICAN GONNA 'SSOCIATE WITH NO DARN ROOTIN' TOOTIN' HUH FOOEY-PATOOEY HUZZAH WUH SPANISH PEA PULL!!!
>
>WHAT A SPIC HAS SUMFIN TO DO WITH DEE BEE ZEE? HUH TROO THAS RIGH' THE JAPANESE ANIMU AND MANGO IS SPANISH-CODED!!!!! IM REAL WARM BLOODID MERRICAN AINT NO SPIC HERE
>
>SONIC AND DBZ? HO-NO BABY, WHAT IS U DOIN?
>
>YOU SEE IM REAL WHITE MURRICAN AINT NO SPIC AND JAPS TELLIN' ME WHAT FOR SONIC AND DBZ IS LINKED... THE CREATOR OF ALL HUMAN KIND WAS A REAL WHITE MAN... JOHN KENNEDY HEYUP THAS RIGH'
>
>You are actively shortening your life span by being awake at these hours if you are American btw LMAO LOL
>
>WHAT U SAYED SONIC AINT NO 'LECTRICK BALL ' O ' LIGHTNIN' ? SHIIIIIIIIEEEEEEET WAS UP FOO' TELL THESE SPICS THAT TROO UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH

another spic melty after he said he's leaving AGAIN, he knows 4chan masters owns his life, kek
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>>572923487
>They were originally magical miracle fossil fuel
Then why you always find them in pocket dimensions instead of underground?
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>>572925556
>let me know when you can refute the words of Yasushi Yamaguchi himself, surely an american 4chan anon will know more about that than him, it should be a great back and forth to see! especially when their main argument is uhhhhhhhh uhhhhhh yasushi is a spic!!! there so i win!
The argument was that Sonic didn't start as DBZ shit. The yasushi quote and other shit you're pulling from is still not sonic 1 era. I hope you realize how dumb you have been, but judging from your post after this, you're going to keep being a complete schizo.
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>>572925991
No, you're just a retarded censorship apologist.
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>>572926103
Gooning to rubberized cartoon characters is a sign of genetic failure
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>>572926215
Nice projection.
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>>572926371
Yo mama
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i'm high, did tailsfag screw his sister last thread or did imagine that
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>>572926007
The initial concept was that Eggman was the one hiding the emeralds in those pocket dimensions
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>>572926763
You imagined that you sick freak
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>>572926763
Yes. Keep smoking
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>>572926786
Classic Sonic's lore is such a mess. Twenty one emeralds (more if you count the game gear games and non-mainline stuff), chaos rings, lolcalization fuckery everywhere, manga imports, and to top it all off, the original timeline gets erased/re-written in Generations. Just getting a fix on Classic Sonic before the SA retcons is such a headache.

What the hell is the Chaos Dimension anyway?
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>>572926763
The pedo tailsfag fucked their cousin actually
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Amy is my favorite character to play as and im happy the origins collection added her to more games
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>>572927053
There was no need to think hard about it back then. No one actually cared. Naka, in special was the one who would say that "as long as it has good gameplay, no one cares about story". It was Iizuka and Maekawa who started to care about Game Lore.

>What the hell is the Chaos Dimension anyway?
Never heard about that.
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>>572927479
>Never heard about that.
I suppose calling it the "Special Stage dimension" would be more accurate. It is a real place. So much so that it was part of Fang Nack the Hunter Weasel Sniper's bio. What did the Japanese lore say about the "special stages"?
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>>572926763
>>572927190
Oh yeah, Tailsanon is a (distant-)cousinkisser, you think you know an anon.
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>>572927652
There's no accurate lore to the special stage or special zone on the Japanese side. But there were lots of dimensions in classic Sonic, and Flicky was able to travel among them, which is the whole plot of 3D Blast. But if I had to say, they are a "place in between" dimensions that they can access by using the Giant Ring.
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>>572927652
>So much so that it was part of Fang Nack the Hunter Weasel Sniper's bio.
Careful uglyanimepicanon, you might wake up that guy who sperged out because the S&T2 profile didn't ultraspecifically say the Special Stage was this mysterious mythical "subspace."
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Turns out, the Japanese lore says NOTHING about the Special Stages. It mentions the chaos emeralds but nothing about the space they inhabit. Only the Sonic 1 JP manual brings it up but there is nothing of substance. Emeralds in Sonic 2 are just "sealed away" on the island cause the former civilization misused their power.
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>>572928310
What is "subspace"?
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Fang is just classic era Rouge the Bat.
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>>572928482
Another term for void or empty dimension of a larger space
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>>572914896
>Evan made him gay, apologize
Kill yourself
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This post will probably get ignored, is there a reliable video frame dumper i can used and adjust for my own means?
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>>572928332
They were never thinking too much about it, it's like trying to figure out Alex Kidd lore. Alex Kidd would go to a lot of "worlds", Shinobi Amitsu hime and, etc. They probably wanted to do something close to Sonic, that's why the Flicky and different dimensions.
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>>572914896
The same garden a crying lesbian indirectly destroyed out of the writer's convenience?
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>>572928650
The two aren't anythibg alike. People that conflate the two are forcing a meme.

Rouge is a femme fatale jewel thief and part time government spy.

Fang is a Wile. E. Voyote esque desperado treasure hunter comic relief villain.
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>>572927652
There is no singular "special stages dimension".
The special stages are "warps" created by the emeralds themselves.
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>>572928906
No idea about something more versatile, I just use https://frame-extractor.com/en
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>>572928864
i mean, silver caring for plants and the natural life in times of peace , or picking up new hobbies in general is in-character for him. its just that uwuver is an ooc way to do it.
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>>572925446
sex
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>>572929787
It is, until you realize he's caring for useless things that don't help anyone but himself, rather than farming, he's selfishly doing some gardening because he just thinks it's pretty, it's not in character, it's more akin to Cream, if he truly cared about natural life and peace he would do something that effects them like taking care of pollution, hunger and farming, not a some fucking flowers.
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So should we just call post-movie Sonic "the Blue Flash"?
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>>572929993
sex?
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>>572928650
Rouge is another Betty Boop type of character or simply a furry Jessica Rabbit
Fang is a Looney Tunes antagonist with an unhinged attitude of a Osamu Tezuka character.

Just because they're both hunt for a bounty doesn't mean they're exactly the same thing. They do fill a specific quota for their respective spots of the brand
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fuckin penders man
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>>572928943
Wasn't Alex Kidd originally just a Dragon Ball game?
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>>572930261
> because he just thinks it's pretty, it's not in character
He called a wasteland in 06 beautiful. It’s very much IC and you can cope me a river
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>>572930667
It's just sonic the hedgehog you fucking retard DUMB AHH NIGGA
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>>572931234
>"but don't you dare to tell me to stop calling Sonic the Blue Blur!"
retarded brown zoomer.
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REMINDER FOR ALL DUMB AHH AMERICAN 4CHAN NIGGA: SONIC CAN USE ELECTRICITY, SONIC CAN GO INVINCIBLE, SONIC CAN MAKE A GREEN PROTECTIVE BARRIER, HE CAN USE FIRE AND FLAME-LIKE BARRIERS, HE CAN TURN SUPER SONIC (BASED ON DRAGON BALL BY THE WAY!!!!!!) AND HE IS PRIMARILY A MOUSE BEFORE HE WAS A HEDGEHOG

DEATH TO ALL AMERICAN 4CHAN 4TH OF JULY NIGGA IN SONIC THE HEDGEHOG GENERAL
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>>572930906
You really think Sonic teached Chip what sex is?
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>>572931326
Demonteenth is over, brownie.
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I guess we can call this brand era of Sonic the Blue Flash then.
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>>572931228
He has REASONS to like that shit, because everyone and everything is burning alive, there's difference between a guy looking at a sunset and a girl buying cute animal cookies, you're not seeing the difference because Evan fucked him up that badly
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Scourge if he was the wind. Describe it.
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Does this look like the Africa flag to you?
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>>572931659
Unnatural disaster

>>572931660
post the jap flag version too
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>>572931326
>t
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>>572931659
A complete hedonist. Fucks whoever he wants whether they like it or not. Not a "villain" he just does what he wants.. No morals.
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>>572931752
Sure, we're allies after all.
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Hmmm perhaps we should give Sonic to the Chinese yes...
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>>572922535
You guys mistake his posts for krack almost daily
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I kinda miss Sonic as a speed demon, the blue flash shit is so gay.
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>>572931890
As long it's not Taiwan, sure.
(see: Sonic Gather Battle)
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Good morning U.S.A.
I got a feeling that it's gonna be a wonderful day
The sun in the sky has a smile on his face
And he's shining a salute to the American race
Oh boy, it's swell to say
Good morning U.S.A.
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Shadow is going to impregnate me (human woman)
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>>572931660
This edit made a troonmy fan ragequit btw
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>>572932235
Go back to sleep
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I shit red and blue
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>>572932406
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>>572932372
Its 8 am, the sun its already out, no longer bed time
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>>572933065
Why is Spider-Man in this?
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>>572933065
OUR HERO...also Silver and the rest of the avengers
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>>572933116
I'd be more concerned with the addition of captain america...
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Get out off bed already
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>>572930261
>>572931630

look i don't like uwuver but you are hypercorrecting it to make him an uber epic manly chad. its kinda funny for a plushie looking hedgehog.

even sonic himself admires flowers and shit.
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>>572933624
The amount of damage Uwuver did needs overcorrecting unironically.
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>>572933624
do you hate the sonic channel pic that comes from japan showing him baking pies using amy's recipe
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/sthg/ is a special dimension
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>>572933681
i don't think silver is a childish wimp the way evan wants but he also is the type that loves peace and innocence and in times of chill admires them. i don't really want these nuance to be gone just to appeal to auraverfags. in fact these nuances add to the more agressive or bullheaded parts of himself as he is the golden hearted extremist or overly impulsive reckless dude due to strength of his emotions.

japan made a cutesy pic of him cooking pies using amy's recipe, so what now? not being ''masculine'' is not the part uwuver gets wrong and people wouldnt really take criticisms of it seriously if you boil it down to it being ''fagshit''
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>>572933909
>>572933681
also you overestimate the amount of people reading idw, what he needs is a good movie portrayal and an actually good voice actor.
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>>572934050
not getting in the movies dude
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>>572933909
I'll take Silver literally being a copy of Shadow if it cleans up the shitty idw image
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Im Mr Meeseeks look at me!
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>>572933624
>you are hypercorrecting it to make him an uber epic manly chad
You're describing the Auraver hood autism and Aurafags hate Tanabata and/or the Game Silver personality (his straightforwardness) due to its association with '06.
Also it's not just "epic", the same Muh90sDBZ browns are basically just trying to put Silver in a coat of Mega Man Zero as if that's anything original.

Aurafags are basically south pole Uwufags, who are basically just another retard extreme opposite. They also REALLY love reheated nachoes.
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I'm only here for Axel in CrossWorlds
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>>572934147
You're retarded, Uwufags either want 24/7 Hellococomelonic Silver or le epic tryhard cloak guy that switches to uwu.
The point is that both are shit but it's also simply not making Silver Shadow again, it's worse.
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>>572934124
cope
>>572934147
you don't like either silver or shadow. no one actually reads idw anyway that depiction always existed due to his voice, he literally just needs a good va and actually do anything in the games.
>>572934291
at some point i understand the overcorrection due to idw doomposting but the ''fagsht'' complex is really hilarious, silver always had a bishonen design and was more emotional than sonic or shadow. he iisnt supposed to be a childish wimp but those are realities.
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>>572933909
Ironically, it has nothing to do with masculinity, uwuver would NEVER take baking because he either would fail or would love someone else to do it because he's someones child, the concept is that his innocence is turned into fagshit because western fags don't know men could have feelings, i am in agreement with you about his character, but they're pushing it so fucking hard into the wrong direction
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>>572934463
>here
just stay on face/v/ook bro, this is a war zone.
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>Silver is a fag
>no he's not
>THEN YOU WANT HIM TO BE A SHADOW
You guys are actual illiterate retards holy shit.
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Happy 4th of july to those who celebrate it here. I hope you have fun and eat a lot of cool food.
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Anyone know any good mods for Sonic Frontiers on a hacked Switch 1?
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>>572934291
Auraver doesn't exist, it's just shizos realizing Silver is not fucking dependent on shitaze.
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>>572934793
admiring nature is not the same thing as fucking espio on the butt. i already criticized that evan's writing of him as a bumbling idiot who needs mommy's help is what's out of character. not him liking plants in itself.

>>572934921
him liking flowers or baking pies doesn't have anything to do with blaze. this isn't different from sonazetards schizo'ing about silver everytime.
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>>572934657
i already adressed that uwuver is ooc and that's why gardening issue fumbles. but you know there's a lot of 4chan tards who dislike it cuz ''gardening is sissyshit'' ignoring that japanese stuff also has quirks like that.

ironically, if we don't adress how it's wrong and just call it fagshit everytime, then they are going to have him still be a polite or childish wimp but ''lock in'' to please aurafags.
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>>572934793
Uwufags and Aurafags should just flat out admit they hate Sonic Team's original direction for Silver, don't want to see them cook, and move on.
I really hate how they took all the ups and downs of Silver to it's maximum extent.
>Silver acts like a kid with no sense of respect? Let's make him a wittle pussy free baby munchkin.
>Silver gets to the point? now let's make him a stoic kill machine that's only hype and aura, Future Trunks sucks anyways
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>>572934291
That is IC Silver retard, theres no point trying to push gay shit onto him that is made from fanfics and memes, it's not our fault you're a nigger that can't comprehend someone being a hedgehog means they're close to Shadow while they're completely unalike
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Uwufags are clearly far more in the wrong
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>>572935348
is this fanfic or a meme?
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>>572935348
>That is IC Silver retard
No it isn't, faggot. That's Mega Man Zero according to Sonictwt hood retards.
So much they call Game Silver a no personality character.

Fuck kill yourself. Also im against Uwushit, im calling out on Aurafags as part of the problem and acting if they care about Game Silver writing or Tanabata in general.
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>>572935336
I agree with you but with on one thing
>Silver gets to the point? now let's make him a stoic kill machine that's only hype and aura, Future Trunks sucks anyways
This shit never happened, he's still the same Silver from 06 but a bunch of IDW niggers got very scared of him being slightly masculine, it's exactly how women view strong men as potential rapists.
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>>572927821
Note how the tailsfag seems more concerned about incest than bestiality.
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Silverfags act like Evan raped them in the butt
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>>572935451
No, because that's how Sega sees Silver too
Aurafags are the "japan would agree with my politics" type of guys. It's pathetic
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>>572935451
i just don't think your criticism should boil down to ''not being le epic terminator meme'' is fagshit. no one will take your criticism seriously that way.
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>>572935604
Now that Evan looks like a female version of Eggman they may have a point
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>>572935556
>This shit never happened
This is literally how Sonictwt despicts their idea of Aura Silver, aka the white epic cloaked chad from a 90s DBZ promo poster.
It's straight up just Mega Man Zero, and Rockman Ciel (in the case of Sage 2.0), shit but in the most braindead hype driven fashion.
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>>572935531
That is something ic, IDW would never do shit like that without making it extra gay
>>572935546
That is Silvers personality, people who push him to look cooler are the only ones that made others realize how fucking IDW got him. fucking end your life if you think him having a good story is bad for him because he only deserves bad writing. and add extra cut to your throat saying random bullshit about them hating his original concept
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>>572935779
and? i never said idw portrayal was correct, i said it fumbled because of uwuver but the concept of him liking and caring for flowers isn't OOC in itself. people disagreed because a male liking flowers is gayshit, similarly you could claim liking sweets or making sweets instead of proper meal is ''gayshit''
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from now on instead of porn of ocs, i will draw UwUver art because apparently thats what triggers you the most, its the uwuvening
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>>572935758
They do that shit because they actually like his original story and actual character, these are fans who appreciate Silver for who he actually is and not the braindead misandry that is defended about him and the random nonsense that "Silver wouldn't work without bad writing" shit you're trying to push
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>>572935930
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>>572935961
You wont draw anything, lol
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>>572935451
>>572935610
Uwufags are bad faithers who think he should be some cutesy therapy machine for lesbiancore or indie woman characters and abuses Sonic Team/Toyoda's apathy over Evan's direction for her Silver brand
Auratards are brown idiots that got super invested by the potiential man meme and Silver slander where the moment they entertained an idea with Silver and Sage, they flip the entire table and insist Sonic Team sucks and pretend a Silver romhack of Mega Man Zero 2 is better.
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Auraver doesn't fucking exist, it's just Silver doing his work normally while most of you got brain creampied by LGBT mutants so much that you can't see it as something normal for him to be
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I want to transform all uwuverfags into biological women and then fuck them
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>>572935961
Can you draw him as a baby holding Blaze's hand as his big sister while surviving in the ruined future?
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If Amy's spats and Sonic's electricity are so minor things, why even change them in the first place
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>>572936382
Movie Amy probably has spats on her model
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>>572936183
>insist Sonic Team sucks and pretend a Silver romhack of Mega Man Zero 2 is better.
This is true though?
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>>572936053
amy so cute...
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>>572936140


nta but i have some art of silver eating pie and silver with blaze, i dont want to reveal my identity.
>>572936183

pretty much.
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>>572936382
>Why does Amy having spats
CERO
>Why does Sonic have electricity
Movie synergy
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>>572936183
>Bad faith
Excuse you ñ. Most Uwufags agree Silver can be both.
Aurafags straight up will try to dox you for implying Silver should be cute.
Bad faith is pretending Japan would have the same opinion as you and judging others as if you had the moral high ground like >>572936216
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>>572936741
Downgrade, like most Modern redesigns.
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>>572936849
Ragebait post, uwuverfags hate Silver being normal or good.
Auraverfags don't exist, just Silverfags with a sense of intelligence that don't want things to go downhill in the future.
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I just think Silver is supposed to be a child like Movie Sonic, when most of the other characters read like adults (even though their age is theoretically around the same)
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>>572936849
>Most Uwufags agree Silver can be both.
They can't comprehend what happened in issue 76 without calling it Shadow 2.0 or being very scary.
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>>572932036
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How does Silver maintain a fandom when he starred exclusively in shit games
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Gotta love Sonia.
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>>572936741
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>>572937420
potential.exe
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>>572937341
An angry movie Sonic most often, like when his human got injured
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>>572937437
Shadow...
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>>572937420
A well written and designed character
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>>572935592
Kind of sweet, in a squicky sort of way..
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>>572937420
white male hedgehog privilege
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>>572936741
The most rare example of anyone noticing Dulcy’s existence. Let’s hope we don’t hear about this character for another 10 years.
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>>572937578
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>>572935975
>They do that shit because they actually like his original story
I will say again
They
Hate
Sonic Team
Silver
Because
Of
The
06's
Reputation

Also they're using the poovies as a cope proving grounds that Silver will be "fixed" there
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>>572937618
It’s about as cute as a pug. Highly inbred and loaded with tons of health problems.
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>>572937894
That's 1st-cousins tho
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>>572937420
games arent that important
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>>572936617
Zero 2 is the worse Zero game, doesn't feature any telekinesis, and Inti Creates stuff is mega overrated.
This is exactly what im talking about here about Aurafags.
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Sally
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>>572936924(me)
>>572936741
Like, I never noticed how Reboot Dulcy had wings on her boots due to the cookie cutter nature of Modern Sonic's design philosophy overly standardizing how characters designs can be made.
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>>572936803
>CERO
This cope died when Capcom censored an old Darkstalkers game anyways in a rating where it'd be allowed.
Also every Smash game since Brawl is E10+ now, it's Sakurai who refuses to make it T again and wonders why he gets told to censor everything
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Douge
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>>572937881
No we fucking don't retard, we hate how 06 is handled, not Silver that's fucking stupid, uwuverfags hate Sonics team Silver because of 06 reputation instead is far more accurate.
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>>572936849
>Most Uwufags agree Silver can be both.
See my point here >>572934539
You want the both wrongs of Silver. He's not a baby kill machine
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>>572937618
>>572935592
How does this thing happen "accidentally" anyway? You'd have to be living in a place where most of your family, including extended family, are all living close together but far enough that family ties are loose and direct connects aren't remembered well enough
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>>572938018
I like your funny words funny man, but a character being good is not being bad.
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>>572938224
Silver's parents
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>>572937437
Here's a pro-comicfag Silver-related fangame that actually doesn't fucking suck due to Twitterfags
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>>572938279
Can you stop being a pussy about seeing a dude take his job seriously for 2 seconds and calling him a kill machine?
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>>572938163
>This cope died when Capcom censored an old Darkstalkers game anyways in a rating where it'd be allowed.
?

And it's not cope, rating dictate how broad of an audience a game can sell to. Sakurai wants Smash to be E(A for CERO) so that it can reach the most players. While it isn't just CERO that putting these pressures on devs, it's still a major consideration for Japanese devs.
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WHITEBOARD
https://magma.com/d/jGeAt7iJYK
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>>572938269
>No we fucking don't
Yes you fucking do. I see what your average retard do amd react whenever someone does defend Game/Tanabata Silver's principles.
You Aurafags are absolutely reprehensible i wish i could rid of you and Uwufags both.
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>>572938279
He is, or he can be. It depends. He has no awareness or good and evil like a normal person would. That's why switching between personalities makes sense
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>>572938327
https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-presidents-were-all-distantly-related-to-each-other/
Happy 4th BTW
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250 years of Freedom and now they're censoring Amy's panties
Is that what the Founding Fathers intented?
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>>572938470
A baby kill machine is a perfect description of "idort" uwufags who tolerate Sonictwt's Auraver sloppa.
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Feel like Auraver fags never existed but just a bunch of boogeymen created by uwuverfags getting scared of males...
Like the AU Silver concept is just a fun what-if, they're no dark undertones or brutality or any "Silver is becoming a broody loner like shadow who's a killing heartless machine!!!!!", why did they feel so threated by him having a new story?
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>>572938376
Ripoffing a diaper wearing loli isn't making a character good, you're just that unoriginal and rather reskins.
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>>572938606
>Tabanana
You're a fucking shipretard that's why you'll never understand Sonic.
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>>572938442
>great great great great great great grandparents
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>>572938568
>defecation
>sex-related
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>>572938848
Wouldn't it be funny if it was a bunch of Blazefags getting jealous all over again and forcing "Silver being written better" as a bad narrative?
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>>572939080
Just imagine all the crazy stuff the CERO review board has to see from Japanese devs.
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>>572938606
Silver never had tanabata principles, pretty sure rivals did things more clearly but you're not even playing the games so you're a lost cause.
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>>572938618
You're comparing literal dogshit by Twitterfags to good japanese writing, do you NOT see the writing on the wall?

This is like comparing the awful SSJ5 fanart by that Spainard hack to Mazoku Yusuke from YYH
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>>572938979
I defend Tanabata because at least the shipfags defend JP Silver unlike twitterfags defending their baby murderer.
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>>572939267
>This is like comparing the awful SSJ5 fanart by that Spainard hack to Mazoku Yusuke from YYH
Lárgate, maricón.
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>You don't like Silver from the games because he has tanamatata in it
>but rivals-
>Nobody cares about the games
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>>572939176
Rivals is basically just a reboot of Silver and it's not canon anyways
A clear reminder that PSP fags deserved better. We should have gotten Sonic Rush or a new Dimps trilogy on that platform or Vita.
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>>572939542
>it's not canon anyways
it is, how the fuck did Silver meet everybody and why is he friends with Espio? and why is Nega still retconned?
>Sonic Rush
Why would you want a shittier advance game?
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>>572939496
You reek like a wet fucking dog. Flee the premises or your nuts will get smacked a 1000x fold.
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Who must die to put an end to this injustice?
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>>572939502
It not that nobody cares about it, it's just doesn't matter.
It doesn't benifit either sides beyond retaining how Game Silver still acts, and Game Silver still acts the same way beyond Rivals.
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>>572939704
AI will fix it
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>>572939760
It's just so funny how retards trying to push tatatana as a big part of Silver while he functioned very normally without it
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on the bright side there is nothing penders can say that would hurt sonally any more than he already has
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>>572939669
Mi abuelo.....aiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeee!
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Happy fourth of July. Remember that freedom is created through everyday action and not by what's written on old documents.
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>tanamatata
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wtf is this toyotaco bullshit people keeping bringing up for silver
It is a person? A writing trope?
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Reminder Tomaetotomahto is just Blazetendie leech cope.

Game Silver=/=Toiletapenisa>=Uwuslop=Auraslop
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character with this feel?
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>>572938590
Draw Sally with an American bikini!
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>>572940075
some japanese fanfic from 500 years ago about some impossible romance
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>>572940075
Even Big Toyo would think Tootabrappa is useless shipslop.
No Mai x Present Trunks isn't Tanabata either. Don't even bring it up.
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>>572940073
source?
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>>572939408
miijiu is like the only real silverfag in terms of understanding his characterization.
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>>572938590
Draw something very boring!!
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>>572940096
Tom R Toe is a very important figure in Silver's character arc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ir4T9t8W6U
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>>572905448
>>572926763
kek
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>>572938590
Scatbro here, gonna join it
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What's even with that sentiment of "Sonic fans don't like Sonic", "Sonic fans don't deserve new Sonic", "kill all Sonic fans"
Admittedly the last one is appealing, but what the others mean, why would you want Sonic fans to be miserable
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the tragedy of 06 between silver and blaze is significant to silvers character but like i only ever see blazefags fight back this much about 06 mattering to a character and how that affects the character in the fanbase like yeah silver has adventures without blaze or tana whatever but it is part of the appeal of the character it cant be ignored
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>>572940417
sorry need to fix this
i only ever see blazefags usually fight back this much against 06 instead of silverfags
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One day Maekawa woke up and decided that Silver and Blaze are tanabata. it's a load of bollocks but it sure does sound deep. like everything else in sonic 06
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This faggot who can't comprehend Silver can take care of himself and be aggressive and instantly calling it 'aura' because his fagass is too scared of him becoming written IC, is someone that should be skinned alive.
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>>572940416
what are you talking
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>>572939267
>You're comparing literal dogshit by Twitterfags to good japanese writing, do you NOT see the writing on the wall?
no?
>>572939267
>This is like comparing the awful SSJ5 fanart by that Spainard hack to Mazoku Yusuke from YYH
Sorry if I have aboslutely no idea what you are talking about. You are speaking like an alien from Mars
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>>572940534
maekawaschizo'ing again, we went over this, scriptwriters write according to gameplay not the reverse.
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>>572940382
Brand unity is pointless and fake
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>>572940701
No. both are born simultaneously. other wise it's incomprehensible me... oh wait
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>>572940075
>wtf is this toyotaco bullshit people keeping bringing up for silver

You probably mean Eitaro Toyoda, he is the current lead writer for the Sonic franchise. Basically the current Maekawa.
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>Blazetendie
>Silversnoys are still pushing this
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>>572940529
Because Blazefags immediately saw that it's wrong while Silverfags had some hope that it can be written better in the future, and now 20 years have passed
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>>572940595
>you can tell at glance he is tired
no he doesn't look tired at all, Evan is 100% better at portraying emotions
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>>572940672
Imagine saying you're a huge fan of Togashi and Dragon Ball but never read or watch Yu Yu Hakusho once in your life.
You auraver faggots are quite the professional larpers.
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>>572940234
It's A.I
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>>572940785
do you believe it was ian flynn who made marine have water powers? blaze was going to be at the very least playable in silver's campaign of the portion, maekawa had to work with at the very least that pre-planned.
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Just shifting the subject to say ABT is only good at drawing Sonic characters and porn and nothing else.
Drogune is shit and his DC designs are all awful.

If they wanted to draw beastman Cheetah, simply hire a weeb like https://www.furaffinity.net/user/shonuff44/ or any jap artist to direct the idea
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>>572940382
For outside observers it seems like a lot of fans just don't like how Sonic is currently and are very fickle about the franchise.

Sonic fans, especially on twitter, very loudly critique and scrutinize almost every pixel of this franchise and rarely say anything positive about anything. Sonic fans also seem to switch up on stuff as well, for one month they'll have a honeymoon period for something and then later turn on it.
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>>572941021
I never claimed to be a Togashifag you little nigger, I just like HxH
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>>572941646
>im gay
we know
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>>572941405
>shonuff44
Haven't heard that name inna while.

I figure ABT was chosen for the DC crossover because he works well with Ian. Also, has DC ever hired a Japanese artist before?
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>>572941405
he reminds me of Fred Perry
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Aurakeks raped and gaped.
Even Krack fucking hate you niggahs.
You always have Knigkles to farm aura from.
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>>572942726
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>>572942726
Sonic is.....Gregnant?
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>>572942893
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It's retarded to expect the character who loves Sonic to be content with staying as a weakling civvie who can't defend herself forever. After 30 fucking years, she should be able to hold her own in a fight. I'm sick of DBZ gorilla niggers conflating her ability to fight with censorship, because they're too stupid to realize her ability to fight is the RESULT of her love for Sonic, and the dickchoppers at SOA scrubbing her love for Sonic is what creates the contradiction.
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>>572912831
Are you surprised? Blaze is a Madonna decendant, so she was always going to have some Sallyisms applied by shiptards.
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She already became independent in SA1
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>>572942734
i think silver is supposed to be an agressive and justice focused character but he is also a character focused around sentimentalism and romanticism (no not romance) appreceating simple wonders or fleeting innocence is in character.
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>>572943214
what do you mean madonna decendant? madonna got turned into amy. that is pretty clear text.

blaze is sonic + knuckles.
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>>572914257
It's kino unfortunately
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>>572943372
It's more of Blaze is Amy + powerful rival wank
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>>572914261
I stop caring about current Tails and focus on hoping someone does a Tails Adventure fanquel and maybe a fangame inspired by Sonic X Tails.

I wish i knew a lot about Godot
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There is no Auraver. That's literally Silver
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>>572915351
>Ash will remain pure
The bathtub
Pikachu
Do the math
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There is no Uwuver. That's literally Silver
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>>572943651
i don't really think the romantic subtext was intentional, the game is mostly about friendship and nishiyama did retweet a thread about the scene ultimately about friendship instead of romance too.

honestly the ship being thought of as legitimate as it is mostly relies on being boy + girl. i don't want to sound like a wokeoid but it is what it is. like sonadow is popular but even sonadow has more reasons to it than sonaze.
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>>572943734
>>572944067
>my hecking cupcake kill machine is Silver!
Kek no. Stay delusional, Sonictwt.
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Sally is the whore
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https://bsky.app/profile/sonicstadium.org/post/3mprs24higc2x

Why is Aaron Webber coming back?
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>>572944124
It's not romantic as much as they're preparing for it to be romantic, a female looking Sonic who needs to be saved by him and fate and is bringing her to him, it's literally Amy but mixed with being his opposite and accidently creating another Knuckles and Shadow.
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>>572943372
Amy is Madonna 2.0
Sally is Madonna 3.0/Amy 2.0
Tiara is Madonna 4.0/Sally 2.0/Amy 3.0
Blaze is Madonna 5.0/Sally 3.0
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Why do you act like Evan is not getting major control over the franchise?
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>>572944486
Is this the madonna whore complex thing
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Blaze and Silver are sibling coded
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>>572944541
That’s Shadria and Kiturge
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>>572943372
>>572943214
Blaze is Tails + Amy + Knuckles to create Sonic's ultimate foil.
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>>572944404
we never escaped meta eraa
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>>572944486
Sally was made independently of Amy. But I can see the connection to Madonna since she had a blonde prototype phase as a human girl / cat girl / chipmunk girl
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>>572944404
The fucking loser is going to do more hater millennial collabs again his he?
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It is time to admit you lost sthg. Evan Stanley is going to control the franchise.


You put all your effort hating Flynn.
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>>572944741
speak for yourself
cocksucker
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>>572944430
but sonic giving life lessons or being a mentor to others was just a 00s thing in general rather than specifically specifically a romance thing. would you say the shadow and amy scene in sa2 was intentionally prepared to be romantic? i understand how in both of those cases shadamy or sonaze people would take it as shipfuel but i don't really think it's creator intention or anything.

i mean they put her next to another hedgehog in a game actually about romantic love anyway early on. (even if this one isn't confirmed romance or anyhting either) if she was intended as an actual romance rival to amy i don't think this would be put early.
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>>572944646
It's like mixing steak, coke and apples to create the ultimate meal...
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>UMMM WHY DIDN'T SILVER KNOW MEPHILES IS EVIL, HE LOOKS LIKE A MONSTER AND IS NAMED AFTER MEPHISTIPHOLES
Every single person who said something like this is low IQ
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>>572944486
>>572944810
>>572944612


i again i see what you guys mean but i don't see any of it as deliberate on the creator's part.
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>>572944943
It was regrettable on the creators part because you can tell they're trying undo these shits
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>>572942726
>>572942893
>>572943029
god I love toxic yaoi
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>>572945052
i don't think people would take the sonic blaze moments as romance if they were same genders desu, it entirely relies on boy + girl and parallelisms than anything on screen

they put her next to another hedgehog just one year later, if it was ''regret'' i don't think they would be doing things contradictory to ''second love interest theory'' this early on.
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is it just me or do we not have minor blobian characters in idw, every named character ends up getting treated like part of the main cast
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>>572944910
If a guy that looked like Billy the Kid told you to go back in time and kill George Washington, would you do it?
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Sonic
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their hands are 2 times smaller than normally
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>Webber seethed at Supersharts and SXSG's Move Over Classic promotion gag so hard, he got out of his hiatus
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>>572944810
>but sonic giving life lessons or being a mentor to others was just a 00s thing in general rather than specifically specifically a romance thing
He never went out of his way and was reading people so hard as much as he did in rush, rest was just him answering their questions, in rush he's like a therapists and a dad whos following this girl around and reading her like psychiatrist, immediately knowing that she had a rough past and repeating the same words again and again, something he never did even to Tails.
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>>572945232
What do you mean by minor blobian characters?
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>>572945052
i feel like if they were trying to undo it years later they wouldn't put her next to silver just one year later and still use that duo. you can argue silver + blaze isn't romantic either but if blaze was a secondary interest for sonic then being next to another hedgehog at all is bad optics.
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>>572945401
minor named characters, there's no smaller recurring cast, everyone is about as relevant as Amy
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>>572945369
they barely interact outside of the ending scene. cream and amy interact with her more, the ending scene with sonic is just framed more dramatically so you notice it more.
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>>572945342
Webber's favorite character is Big the Cat. If he isn't a Modernfag, he is a general Sonic fan.
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bugs, reptile, and fish blobians shouldn't have mammalian noses
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Jewel’s tiny body makes me hard
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>>572945542
That's what i said, he barely met, knows or interacts with this girl, but he had a mix of infatuation and intelligence when he heard about her and somehow fixed her entire life immediately, he could've done this with any of his friends but he left them alone and focused on this new girl, he wasn't a mentor they build this story where he's completely different and onto her, could you see him do any of this to anyone else?
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Shadow
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>>572945523
Nite and Dawn, The Celestial Troupe, and Enigma are probably some examples of what you are looking for.

That said, IDW is weird in that every named character has to be approved by Sega, so they probably want them to be related to the main game cast in some way. IDW is also slow, so it can't really tell a lot of stories featuring named recurring side characters.
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Sonic is simply not build on story telling but just a theme.
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>>572946072
he tardwrangles her and tells her to calm down.

i get what you mean but i think you're projecting more romance into the scene than it actually has
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>>572946121
Metal Sonic
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>>572946380
What is the difference?
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>the new animation will reference IDW
ohnononono
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>>572946127
How do I get a cute gf like this
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>>572946976
It's easy if you open your options to (distant!) cousins apparently.
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>>572947081
did the tailsfag actually fuck his cousin
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>>572946723
People don't have long attention span playing as a speedster who likes to be free and to go on adventures, any deep emotional structure and calculated story would always fall short, you either need to make it extremely easy to understand or keep it brief and focus on it's outcomes, it's a gaming series, it should focus on you being part of the tale while blitzing through it
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>>572947228
nta but I have
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>>572946595
>>572946797
>yo hawg i heard you like references so i put references in references!
Who's referencin' who?
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>>572947538
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Nice job Sonic Team
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>>572947869
They shouldve released it for every console and pc
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>>572947952
It already is on other consoles
It’s the same game with no bug fixes outside of one rare visual glitch
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Tails! :D

>>572948071
They fixed the draw distance, which was the biggest problem with the game in my opinion. Wish it was a free update on PC
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>>572948071
Jesus, just kill this franchise already
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>>572939704
All those
>"erm, Amy's upskirts make me uncomfortable"
NPC programmed their way through life to get to the position to remove them like a hive minded ant walking a straight line to the donut it was told to retrieve.
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>>572948218
Most people’s biggest problem was the content in the game, not a graphical setting
They still haven’t fixed the lack of content in the hub worlds, the titans are still a glitchy mess, the visuals are still pathetic, and the performance is still insanely low for the visuals on display
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>>572947538
Was it worth it?
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>>572947952
This is like saying DMCV Devil Hunter Edition should get re-released outside the Switch 2
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>>572948383
yeah we both enjoyed it
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>>572947228
Don't think he's one of the tailsfag twins but unless this is a coincidence he's a regular my eyes are on all of you
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>>572947869
>Flynnslop so mid, it can't carry a mediocre rerelease
Pontaff wins again
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>>572948345
Idk what you're talking about. Most people heavily praised the game as one of their favorites. I disagree with that, but still, what you described doesn't match my experience at all. I also don't think the draw distance is a mere "graphical setting", it's a major issue that affects the gameplay. Certain parts of The Final Horizon were unplayable at times because of how bad it is. I hope I get to play Definitive Edition someday, so I can hopefully have a better experience with that part of the game
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>you see the probem is hedgehog engine
>doesn't explain why unreal engine is better in any way
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>>572945337
These models look like shit, what's going on?
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>>572947869
ST has never been good at remastering their own games. A ST-led remaster is usually just the most convenient way to play the game, not the best way to play it.
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>>572948631
All they had to do was redub to make it worth our while even a LITTLE bit.
Remember the cope that certain lines in the trailer sounded different?
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>unreal engine
why not just call it faker?
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>>572948285
We can still fight back with AI, treat it as consequental to fags that do try to remove her panties
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>>572948845
I guess...
But I just learned 3D modeling so i'm just going to give her panties in everything I make.
Which is turning less and less from how more and more I'm losing interest in this stupid franchise.
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>>572948704
Heavily praised? Frontiers reviewed mediocrely.
People like Sam Procrastinates who gave it good reviews on YouTube are people who legally can’t say anything bad about it.
The definitive edition on Metacritic is the second lowest mainline game review wise, and the original release scored worse than games like Sonic 4, Superstars, or Heroes
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>>572947617
Japan does it too. Sonic Heroes is full of member berries.
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>>572948981
You are retarded. Who gives a FUCK about review scores. I'm talking about the actual public.
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>>572948734
It's the 3D westslop equivalent to low budget animation
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>>572941143
I know but isnt it a twitter filename? i wanted to know who made it
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>>572948975
I hope you reach to industrial levels of 3D

retopology is a little bit of a bitch though
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>>572949031
They’re pretty much the same to, the general public views it as a glitchy mess
all of the praise comes from people like GamesCage.
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>>572949031
The actual public don't give a fuck about Frontiers
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>>572945337
Sneak peak at that rumored remodel I see.
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>>572940235
she drew silver raping blaze
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The reviews for Frontiers Definitive edition are too harsh
Like one complaining it didn’t have all the dlc included, people expecting a 120fps mode based on the visuals, or that they didn’t fix the pop in
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>>572949398
not at all
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>>572949029
Heroes is Iizukaslop
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>>572949421
you are such a corporate dicksucker holy shit
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>>572949421
>The reviews for Frontiers Definitive edition are too harsh
I think Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (GCN) has to be the only Sonic rerelease that reviewed well, right?
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>>572949458
yes she did
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>>572949421
they're asking for too much!!!! it's a small indie game team, give them a break.
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>>572949572
no she didn't
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>>572949252
Metacritic comments are 78% positive.
Steam comments are 90% positive.
Most people praised Frontiers. The only places where that isn't the case anymore is the core fanbase here and on Twitter, and that only started sometime around the release of Shadow Generations. Hate it all you want, but it was objectively a success

>>572949303
It's the best selling Sonic game. The only 2 Sonic games that sold more did so because they were bundled with the Mega Drive
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>>572949421
>they didn’t fix the pop in
They literally did. Not fully, some of the cinematic shots still look like shit if you pay attention, but during gameplay it is fixed.
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>>572949421
objetively there is no reason to buy the game when you can play it for half the price in steam
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>>572949647
she did just that
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>>572949685
>It's the best selling Sonic game
forces sold more
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>>572949685
Basically if you’re a Sonic fan you like it, but that’s pretty much guaranteed with how Sonic fans are.
I mean we still have people arguing Superstars is a good game
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>>572949810
they were just kissing you fucking moron
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>>572945337
I like Sonic looking the most out of place there. No, I bet this sounds like sarcasm, but it's not. This is how Sonic should look when it's Metal.
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>>572949863
...in another timeline
also thanks to playstation plus in 2020
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>>572949797
>They literally did.
no they didn't
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>>572949863
No it didn't lmao what the fuck are you talking about

>>572949901
Really? It seems more the other way around from what I've seen. It's controversial among Sonic fans (or older fans) and loved by casuals or the new audience brought in by the movies
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>>572949510
Iizuka directed both SA2 and Heroes. Are both Iizuka-slop?
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>>572949797
Are you kidding? The fucking render line for grass is still right next to the camera.
Even Xenoblade and FF7 Rebirth have further render lines
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>>572949932
>actually its good that its bad

i can't stand you people
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I see the Pendersfags are up and early with their threadshitting today
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>>572949931
they did more than that
a lot more
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>>572949043
OOOOHHHH it's completely western made.
Well that explains why it's so unbelievably lame.
I don't know what it is with western studios that work on Sonic, but they all seem to like and are "inspired" by anime, but completely miss emulating making cool.
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>>572950153
you really need to go to therapy
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>>572950020
This is the fanbase who regularly argues 06 deserves another chance because it’s a good game deep down, that Shadow the Hedgehog was misunderstood, that if you ignore 50% or more of some of the games they’re great.
Sonic fans don’t want good games, they want absolute messes of games that they can call interesting attempts
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>>572950267
You really need to move on from Archie being dead in a ditch
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>>572949029
Callbacks arent references, stupid. Continuing a thread in a later game is different than going "member"
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>>572950446
He said Pendersfags
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>>572950446
based
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>>572950537
there are no unironic pendersfags
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>>572950446
Why is Sonic kissing Shadow's wife?
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i can imagine duofag simping for penders for serving him shadally but penders shitting on him because he is an AIslopper
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>>572950619
Uh oh Sonamybesties seething
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>>572950087
And yet the Switch 2 version is still much better than any of the previous versions. On Switch 2 you can actually see all the platforms in the distance instead of them only appearing when you get close to them. The Switch 2 version is an actual improvement that affects the gameplay. As I said, this was a major issue with the PC release and I wish Definitive Edition was a free update on all platforms instead of being a scummy Nintendo-only rerelease at a higher price

>>572950281
I don't know what point you're trying to make and don't really care, but I'll just say that while I do like Frontiers I think Sonic 2006 is a better game. Feel free to cry over how I have the forbidden opinion or whatever
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>>572950594
>what are archie fans
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>>572950710
>but I'll just say that while I do like Frontiers I think Sonic 2006 is a better game
This is why no one takes Sonicfans seriously.
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>>572943147
Agreed! Same with her tarot cards as well. The whole point of her update and arc in SA1 was to get her to a point where she could actually fight. That was always the point.
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>>572950132
"bad" is ic, cope
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>>572950710
And thankfully the Switch 2 version is getting the hate it deserves for not fixing anything. they fixed a non issue and made a garbage port.
People wanted better visuals, better performance, all the dlc and every bug fixed and they failed.
Instead they made a game that’s going to be compared to the other big games on Switch and how they somehow render this game at a lower resolution than ports of PS5 games
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>>572950881
>Sonicfans
That's an A+ grade larpfag like most of this thread
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>>572950846
I demand that Sonic leaves some kemomimi girls for the rest of us
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left one is sonic prime 3D model
right one is sonic's current 20 years old 3d model
for some reason Sonic's fingers are bigger at the tip, like mickey mouse hands. Except Sega has never draw him like that.
They made sure the Prime model didn't make this mistake yet they refuse to update their 3D models
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>>572950372
Remember Casinopolis?
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Releasing Sonic right next to Star Fox and DMC was stupid
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>>572950846
i am so jaded with vtubers but till this day i think korone is the best one
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>>572950619
I still hate Penders for killing the preboot
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>>572950975
The only way to be a Sonicfan is to not play the games and just watch youtube long plays instead
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Shadally and Sonally are both based because they make Krack cry
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>>572950881
I really don't care about being "taken seriously" by some moron like you


>>572950928
The Switch 2 version is getting hate for being a paid rerelease instead of a free update or even having an upgrade path, and for being a game key card. The pop in was partially fixed in meaningful ways that affect gameplay if you actually look at gameplay comparisons instead of being disingenuous
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>>572949398
i think she drew armless blaze for angst points not ''rape'' regardless at worst it's disrespecting blaze for angst points rather than mischaracterizing silver.
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>>572951053
Sega doesn't care. It wasn't even announced in the summer fest
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>>572951164
Would she prefer if Sonic and Shadow kissed each other?
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>>572951172
Gameplay is untouched which is also a massive problem
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>>572951207
Only Sonic fans are delusional enough to believe that Sonic is anything but a marketing brand to Sega.
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>>572949398
>>572951127
regardless i don't really care for her private kinks, she just is one of the only ones that actually talk about silver characterization rather than ''baby vs badass'' a sonadow shipper could talk about sonic characterization more accurately than others too.
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>>572951127
I play the games and I disagree with you.
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>>572951394
meant for >>572951191
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>>572951424
No one cares Sonicfag
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"Sonic fans" and it's just some sub-50 retard who got attached to a cartoon episode 20-30 years ago and doesn't like anything else about the series
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This thread disgusts me. IDWfaggots won't rest until they turned Silver into CREAM. And then they have the audacity to say "Auraver". Fuck you faggot.
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>>572950690
>Uh oh Sonamybesties seething
I don't like sonamy...
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>>572951576
You need to accept that Silver works better when he's cute
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Slutty Silver needs rape correction
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>>572951576

i am no idwfag, but silver is meant to be a sentimental or romanticist (not romance or shipping) character in his themes even with the agressive or honest personality. him appreciating simple wonders of life or fleeting beauty/innocence isn't ooc. its how idw does it.
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Tails
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>>572951857
Aww, is that his cousin's hat? It suits him!
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My review
If you have any other version of the game at all even the Switch 1 version I wouldn’t recommend it.
If you play in performance mode you’re really only getting a performance boost along with the foliage being more prominent, though the foliage pop in is actually much more visible than on Switch 1 which is why Sega cut that one trailer funny.
In performance mode the resolution is often worse than Switch 1 anyway, if for some reason you are picking it up you might as well play on graphics mode since this isn’t a game that needs 60fps like Shadow Generations does, but you’re still getting only 1080p
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Why does this franchise have to be the one with so many fucking larpers dude
>i hate sonic having friends
>i've never played a game but all of them are bad
>dude that's out of character
>reee lightning
>lol he's like da wind
>silver needs to be cute
>crying lesbians lol
>sonic is not about the story
I almost wish we were back to the dark ages where publicly liking the series was social suicide. I'd rather have that than my favorite series on Earth be dragged through the mud by a gaggle of shitscum who can't even be assed to play something like Sonic Dash.
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>>572952316
Sonic IS NOT about the story you fucking faggot
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>>572952545
Story has been a major focus since 3&K get the fuck out of my face
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>>572937382
Anon, why the fuck is this so small?
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>>572952316
>Why does this franchise have to be the one with so many fucking larpers dude
06 permanently ruined the franchise's image online around the time the internet was getting more accessible to the general population and from then on it just became an easy target for dramafags and bad faith actors. Funny thing is a lot of other IPs have the same issues with their fanbases that Sonic does
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>>572952630
3K isn't a story game retard
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>>572951576
Sega is just doing what the fans demand. And fans demand a cute lil baby
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>>572953039
>a cute lil slut

fixed
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>>572952316
Interesting bait
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>>572952630
>since 3&K
Since before Sonic 1 even started development, even if they didn't directly put it in the games at first
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>>572953368
>Since before Sonic 1 even started development,
Oh please shut the fuck up, none of that ever mattered being creating a "vibe"
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>>572934809
Thank you, anon, I hope you have a nice day, too.
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>>572953443
It's how the series was pitched in the first place. Sonic always had a strong and immersive narrative/character identity from day 1, it's a fundamental characteristic of the series
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>>572953591
No it fucking isn't.
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>>572953559
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Amy is a 12 year old girl.
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>>572939704
>>572948285
>>572953909
AMY. IS. FOR. PANCHIRA.
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>>572953909
Out of 10!
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What’s he really playing?
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>>572953820
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>>572954189
Donkey Kong Bananza
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>>572954189
Tears of the Kingdom.
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>>572954189
Mario Odyssey
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>>572954291
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>>572954189
Why is Sega pretending they cared about this port
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>>572954492
Next game Sonic wags his finger and says,
>Consent does not matter, if they don't want it, they'll have the will power to stop you. Weakness is willing!
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>>572954024
such a godly edit, i wish this guy did more (and that i knew who he was)
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>>572953161
We have Sonic for that. Silver's purity must be preserved
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I can't believe it's been exactly 1 year since I made a powerful friend.
Happy Independence Day /sthg/! I hope you consume at least 1 burger today.
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>>572912590
blaze's creator already denied romance of the sonic handshake and sonaze btw
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We need your help Star Tails
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>>572955247
Too bad his opinion doesn't matter on this, cause it felt very romantic to me.
>Creator of pac man says he's actually green
Looks yellow to me.
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>>572946072
One nuance I get about Sonic Rush, Blaze is a mirror and whatever is happening with her, also happens with Sonic, Sonic is also sorta isolated, aloof, distant and places his personal ideology and guiding principles above ANY relationship.

He is not only playing therapist with her, he is also recognizing similar struggles between them.
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>>572955274
Tails is a horrible pilot
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>>572955079
I will have burgers and think about Fiona tonight.
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>>572955079
now i am curious, what you mean with powerful friend?
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>>572944810
>sonic giving life lessons or being a mentor to others was just a 00s thing in general
It's not a "00s thing" it's a Sonic thing since day 1.
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>>572955789
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Sonic should give a life lesson about taking fictional stories too seriously
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>>572931173
I'm drunk and i hope i wont mess this

but alex kidd was suposed とべは dragon ball game and the ceo wnateed for its relese coincide with the anime release, but ended up messing that and the license 絵xピれxpire before the anime release. so they scraped everything and cmade a new gameウィthてぇめ stiull based on martial arts, which was the thing around that time.
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>>572955079
As I am told, I will be having burgers and, unironically, chili dogs. S'gonna be a good day. Happy 4th.
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>>572954971
sauce?
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>>572955401
>Too bad his opinion doesn't matter on this, cause it felt very romantic to me.
creator > your shipfag headcanon
>Creator of pac man says he's actually green
no one said this
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>>572956068
>>572956068
>>572956068
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>>572956081
>>572956081
>>572956081
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>>572951050
This is a reference and it is a fine, not forced, reference.
Something Ian is not good at despite hoe often he relies on em as a crutch.
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>>572956085
It's called a metaphor, or do you need to wait for the creator of the concept of metaphors to tell you that?
The creator is simply wrong. There's not much to misunderstand here.
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>>572956106
>>572956107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej4yD5kRrV4
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>>572956106
>>572956107
alright, which one we pick'n?
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>>572944810
>but sonic giving life lessons or being a mentor to others was just a 00s thing in general
KILL ALL LARPERS
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>>572952748
This
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>>572956231
>The creator is simply wrong.
The shipfag is simply wrong (you)
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>>572956392
Calm down son.
Quit your shaking and gritting yer teeth.
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>>572956498
>Projecting
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>>572928332
It apparently also says Fang lives in them for some reason
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>>572956231
Thats not a metaphor. Stop using terms you dont know to try and sound smart
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>>572955924
>supposed to be a dragon ball game
>expire
>with the ???
lol
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>Nobody is picking a thread
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>>572956635
NERD
and also yes it is.
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>>572956363
well it isnt a ''00s thing'' but classic games is mostly minimal on story without extra content.

>>572956231
genuinely asking what makes it especially romantic? maybe if they hugged i'd see a romantic intent, but the game is mostly about friendship and a hand shake and sadness to leave is mostly about being sad to leave a friend, would people still see it as romantic if blaze was a male here?



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