Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things America!/sthg/ #9457 - USA USA USA Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>572911623
This one is better than the Shitmy thread
The fixed one
Oh, the comic release dates.
>>572956437God Bless OP!
Burger time
>>572956157Shut up, Ian
This one is patriotic.
So we agree this is the bread?
Douge
>>572956659This is the thread
>>572956587>CWC
>>572956440Cute n Canon >>572956673Ugly and not even friends
>>572956081
>>572956659Thematically appropriate, so... yes.Gamefags lost bigly. That was their champion...
>>572956659Draw a sequence of this image where Bump's breasts start growing rapidly and she panics.AND DON'T GIVE ME THAT BALLOON SHIT, they need to be HEAVY and go up like, 4 cup sizes at MOST.
>>572956081>/sthg/ #9457It's supposed to be 9458, we had 9455 twice
>>572956943Does anyone even care anymore? What is with you fags and needing to label everything? Like every thread is something worth memorizing.
https://www.yourworldoftext.com/SonicSTHGStoryContinue the stories!
>>572957057Stop deflecting OP, just learn to count.
>>572956943My bad.>>572957171Wasn't me.
>>572957057I care.
>>>572956231The creator is not wrong, but just because the scene isn't about a romance textually, doesn't mean they didn't fill it shock full of very carefully crafted romantic narrative language.And if that wasn't the case then, that sort of framing wouldn't persist in other appearances, but it clearly does, Blaze flirts with Sonic, blushes on his touch, has intimate personal gestures with him, SEGA overwhelmingly vetoes this sort of portrail unless explicitly allowed by characterization.There are relationship cues in here that go way beyond the minimum needed for functional plot work.
>>572957350reddit spacing.
You used the return key too much for my liking, your argument is now invalid.
I made an All American database on the greatest moments of American history, naturally leaving post Cold War era out cause it's controversial. It's interesting looking from the outside in.Did you know in the 1930s rich people tried to coup the US using a military general, but that general said he hated fascism and loved democracy and threatened the rich guys instead? I know this guy called Smedley Butler, the All American Hero with two Medals of Honor who probably saved the US from a January 6 style attempt a long time before the real one happened.
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>>572956053https://x.com/i/status/2036450279520887233
>>572957758Sonic the Hedgehog
>>572957758That's cute and all but it has nothing to do with Sonic. Still based though, the world needs the people like him.
>sonazefag wanking Sonic and Blaze handshakes again
>>572956928WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE IT YET?Make her boobs grow! Have her looking down grabbing them in a panic and splashing the water, have Sage have a spur of the moment shocked look on her face, give them both blush! DO ITDO IT!DO IT NOW!
How do you feel about Sonic boom after recent confirmation that it basically almost killed Sonic by itself ?
>>572958443Same as I felt before. That's not new info
>>572957350>doesn't mean they didn't fill it shock full of very carefully crafted romantic narrative languageThey didn't though. Shippers just find it where it doesnt exist. You are no exception.
>>572958281>>572956928ew wtf?
>>572958443I wish it succeeded
>>572958605What the fuck do you mean EW?How gay are you?
>>572956943The number is completely wrong anyway and has been for years but good on you for caring
>>572957350>Blaze flirts with Sonic, blushes on his touch, has intimate personal gestures with himNone of this happens.
>>572958443Looking back at it, it seemed interesting but not Sonic enough conceptually. Western Sonics as freedom fighters work better. Sonic 06 had way more potential than Rise of Lyric at it's core.
>>572958789>Western Sonics as freedom fighters work better.I actually disagree but I do like it better than what Boom was doing.
Joey Chestnit just ate 66 hot dogs in 19 minutes for his 18th world championshipThe only person to stuff themselves with more wieners is Sally
>>572958443I think it's delusional to blame Sonic Boom if the franchise was doing so badly that it's failure put it in danger. Sega themselves are the one who have fucked it up over and over for long years and are frankly very lucky that Hollywood movies managed to be platable enough.
>>572958913do Americans really?
>>572958690You're gay why are you into inflation?
>>572956928>>572958281I want to see her STRUGGLE with them, lose balance and desperately push them trying to stop the swelling but is HELPLESS to influence it!>>572959010I said her BREASTS you retard, and I said NO BALLOON SHIT. They're GROWING
The Tailspedos are definitely one person right? They're always replying to each other within minutes and more or less have the same writing style. It's sad watching someone behave like this
>>572959097WHY ARE THEY GROWING
>>572958592Ok let time rephrase thatHow do you feel about Sonic never wearing a cool scarf again ?
>>572959109At the very least it's two people, cause I'm one of them and I definitely am talking with others. But at the least it's 4 users I'm pretty sure.
>>572959121Boxercising is associated with people who don't like getting punched in the body or the face. Amy should do some real boxing if she wanted to impress Sonic.
>>572959109I've seen them post near-simultaneous. They're two anon-pals who found each other here.
>>572959097your autism is intriguing
>>572959169RAPID MAGIC HORMONES ACTIVATING, I DON'T KNOW SHE'S A CARTOON FUCKING ANIMAL!!!
>>572959279She always did it to diet.
>>572959097Sage the Sloth…
>>572959217I liked the scarf
>>572958443I think the mainline stopped making sense after Generations. Weirdly, Sega wasn't entirely wrong to believe a reboot was necessary. The execution certainly could have been better and there was other misfortune in play.
>>572959281but is one of them dating his cousin
>>572959416and yet she's STILL fat
>>572958927Yeah but they invested too much into boom>Multiple games >Some in the fucking Wii U>A TV showThey shouldn't have committed to it in the first place
>>572958927You have to remember exactly what Sonic Boom was, though. They thought the west needed a Sonic more catered to them (even though the west was always the only one supporting Sonic in any real capacity) so they spent a fuckton of money on new designs, promotion, a TV show, THREE games, and then watched it all burn in a beautiful trash fire as they realized it was a fucking stupid idea that was never going to work and all they needed to do was just make more normal Sonic.
>>572959645She needs a more rigorous workout.
>>572959645Amy is thin, lean, and healthy, and that's not allowed anymore. She's a dangerous (sexy) rebel.
Why haven't you drawn it yet?DRAW IT!Open Tegaki, and draw Bump getting breast expansion as Sage watches!I got to go to 4th of July picnic. It BETTER be here when I get back. I swear to fucking god...
>>572959639Nah, pretty sure that's someone else. Different writing style.Ever post a pic and then you respond using a similar subject? I think that's what happened here, it's likely not one of the usual Tailses.
>>572959645
>every single time I have more than 50 rings. I get hit by a random badnik near the end of the stage and lose all of my rings I can’t believe I’m getting filtered by Sonic 1 of all games
>>572960082have fun
>>572960245Sonic 1 sucks
>>572960038look at her bulging belly
>>572958443Im glad it at least had a funny cartoon, im still hoping sticks shows up in a mainline game so she gets better toys, for a reboot that really wanted to sell toys the toyline is kinda shit, the only figures worth getting are cubot and orbot
>>572959097Aye aye ayeeeee!
>>572960310pregnant.
>>572960187why this bitch got that fred flintstone build
Sonic super stars plus soon, trust the plan
>>572960441With with Shadow's hoglets
>>572960441I did that.
>>572960447married women just become wider and heavier naturally
>>572960578>>572960585with EVERYONE at once.
Impregnate all hedgehogsYes even the boys
>>572960495What do you want to see in a hypothetical Sonic Superstars Plus?
>>572959639>>572947538> /sthg/ has at least 2 (maybe 3) cousin-datersit all makes sense now!
based op
>>572961143nta but Fang mod would be cool even though I know antagonists don't get playable side stories in these games
Pregnant Surge
>>572960596After they pop a few, maybe. Is that Amy a Mamamy?
>>572961424
Amy is fit! FIT!
>Stop calling me fat. I am wearing combat gear
They really gave westerners a lot of freedom with the Boom series and it almost killed the franchise as a whole. More proof that westerners shouldn't be given this amount of freedom. They should only base their creations around already made Japanese Sonic media.Sonic Boom was shit and flopped.The OG Sonic movie design was shit and had to look more like the Japanese design to be appealing.The IDW OC's are all shit and boring.Mania is good because it's just a Greatest Hits compilation of the classic jap titles.Sonic movie 3 is good because it's based off SA2.
Sonic reminds us all to take the hope pill. Happy freedom day. Remember to live like The Wind.
>>572956081I miss avalonx and bsc
>>572962825notice how this wouldn't have happened if the japs didn't fuck up and give soa the greenlight AGAIN? SOJ is better than SOA but that's like saying a dog is smarter than a cockroach, it's not a fair comparisonFuck Sega.
>>572962871>I miss avalonx and bscDon't we all...
>>572962825they don't hire the westies who are actually good and sent away the one who was willing to do it for almost free
>>572962825>They really gave westerners a lot of freedom with the Boom series and it almost killed the franchise as a whole.Yes, Sega of Japan should be punished for letting Sega of America run roughshot. And all cause they were focusing on the Yakuza series.
>>572962825Actually the Westerners didn't have a lot of freedom with Boom. On top of getting rug pulled with the Cryengine debacle BRB couldn't even give Sonic pants without getting a fight from Iizuka. Sonic Boom was a compromise between two teams that just weren't creatively compatible enough to make something good.
>>572963184>Sorry Ben, But SatAM and Archie are off brand. you know what is on brand? Sonic Boom!
>>572963531>Sonic Boom was a compromise between two teams that just weren't creatively compatible enough to make something good.Awful.
>>572963531And at no point was anyone smart enough to say "We probably should not be doing this."
>>572963531>>572963705>>572963819Yeah, the guys who abandoned Crash Bandicoot were not the guys who should've been making a Sonic game.
>>572963184I can forgive Penders for everything except what he did to this man. There's a Japanese saying, 悪い奴ほどよく眠る, which basically goes "the wicked sleep well". I'm sure that man hasn't thought about Ben since the day he double-crossed him for her egotistical ambition.
>>572963531>westerners were going to make Sonic look less like Sonic if it weren't for Izuka
>>572962825The is why I'm so glad that SOA got purged of so many incompetent people but it still needs purging today
>>572963705At least Oshima occasionally takes custody of Sonic on the weekend. What has Naka done for Sonic lately?
>>572962825Just put Fowler, Hesse and ABT in charge.
>>572964026at least his games are good>but dyke tawnatawna was mostly irrelevant to the story in crash 4, bro. who gives a flying shit about tawna?
>>572964196>What has Naka done for Sonic lately?If I had my way, I'd introduce Ivy the Kiwi into the Sonic franchise proper.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGPfuGzlnsQ
>>572964196Yuji Naka is like the wind. he leaves the past behind and lives for the moment. He is literally Sonic
>>572964380
>>572964026>abandoned Crash BandicootThey didn't abandon Crash, as Crash was unfortunate never their's to begin with. It's part of the reason ND made Jak.>>572964069Boomnic was going to be a new continuity by a separate studio so Sega/ST should have let them go all out at being new, different and experimental. Creatively holding back a team that was already struggling with the technology side of development wasn't going to help them make something good.Mania is a good counterpoint to Boom; Iizuka was very supportive of that game's unique creative decisions, and, despite the budget and corporate restraints against it, and the Mania team was able to a good game.
>>572964737If anything, the mask mechanics were annoying. idk i get they wanted a new gimmick but it didn't feel like a crash game. maybe they should have implemented advanced parkour like mario. but tawna was never on my priorities list. i don't like her new design because it looks and smells like fat dyke. but it was not a deal breaker or something that i gave much attention.
>>572963531It was going to be even worse if Iizuka didn't talk to them at all
>>572965012Mania is a rehash of the classics
>>572965332Making Knuckles extremely top heavy just doesn't look good.
>>572965332Both suck. i am glad sonic bombs is gone.
>>572964550In the timeline where Naka doesn't become the Shadow Balan, Trip is a Kiwi blobian named Ivy that wears egg shell armor.
>>572965332>Buffles with the flesh bellyWhy is this so, so much worse?
>>572965012>They didn't abandon Crash, as Crash was unfortunate never their's to begin with. It's part of the reason ND made Jak.After making massive scratch, the fact that they never tried to buy back the IP is still on them. It's not like what happened with Blinx where Oshima wanted to buy the IP from Microsoft but they said no.Naughty Dog, Andy Gavin, and Jason Rubin are all to blame for abandoning Crash.
>>572962825>Mania is good because it's just a Greatest Hits compilation of the classic jap titles.Thats underselling it. Mania emphasizes the more overtly japanese-y elements of the classics eith hoe much it emphasizes its artsyle and OST and elements being more obscure japanese classic media and cribs moreso from CD and Chaotix than Genesis games as well.Its even more japanese-y even for classic sonic standards.
Man....
>>572962825Truth nuke
>>572965332>Was originally going to make Knuckles have a tan spot on his torso tooWhat the FUCK!? Every time Boom gets brought up I find out new trivia concerning just how alien the Sonic franchise was to BRB at the time with their gratuitous and pointless changes which no one has clamoring for. And that's saying a lot when it comes to Boom Knuckles for Gaia's sake.
>>572966234>moon isn't half destroyedfake and gay
>>572965012Are you stupid? Boom Sonic was originally gonna be a realistic looking hedgehog dude.Mania was allowed to be creative because they were actually creative and actually liked Sonic for Sonic rather than having this stock western complex where everything needs to be made a generic realistic looking Tolkien expy.
>>572966234Mario is doing better than Sonic...bubsy just got a new game...spyro is getting a new game...
>>572965332fuck how can you side with western garbage after both this and the ugly original movie design
>>572966513Legacy Sonic is just too heroic and masculine. He needs a wider range of emotions and facial expressions like concerned, scared, melancholic, and a wtf expression like Pixar's Cars
>>572965332Lol, yeah that does look bad.Looks like they were trying to expand Sonic's flesh spot to being stripes along his arms and legs and that carried over to Knuckles.
>>5729667413A and 1.0 are so clearly trying to look like DiC Sonic with the Mohawk and everything.
>>572961726I miss the fang revival era.
>>572966741>>572966974>>572965332When I say I want westshit I mean I want mobius and the freedom fighters and Scourge and egghitler who is a constant threat to everyone and penders' autism lore. I don't want that crap. burn it. stop trying to fix what ain't broken.
>>572966634>he isn't even memeing, its literally what they were doing.People will still defend this somehow https://youtu.be/ehapelrBHxQ?t=34I still can't believe this was a real trailer. "How do you do fellow kids" always is Westoids approach with Sonic for some reason.
>>572966741Far right design looks like if Sonic was a crash bandicoot character, also shoutout to the westnic in the middle
>>572966457>>572963531(me)I agree, I feel BRB wasn't the right team to attempt making a "western Sonic". But I also feel like them trying to make a compromise with what ST had established with the main canon lead to all this friction with were design decisions. They could find a cohesive art direction because they were beholden to what was established.As a result you get stuff like Amy with a flesh colored body and Rouge eyes. It just led to a weird mishmash of trying to do new things within the restrictions of the main brand and really pleasing no one.
>>572966741the flesh stripes look really repulsive
>>572967403>agree, I feel BRB wasn't the right team to attempt making a "western Sonic".Cause they were just trying to make Crash Bandicoot...Except the REAL character designers behind Crash were not involved. Boom Sonic is a reminder that untalented hacks shouldn't be put in charge of anything.
>>572966634Yes Modern Sonic is such a CORPORATE MASCOT, he should not emote.
>>572967403Rouge eyes are legit why some people that like Boom Amy like it because...well you know how people are about bedroom eyes.I actually at the time being cautiously optimistic about Boom if only because I was just tired of Boost gameplay and wanted something where you move arounf in a 3D environment. I didnt like the redesigns though.It was back when discourse around Sonic was more about just gameplay lol
JPfags are gonna have a complete mental meltdown when they find out Iizuka and Kishimoto are American citizens and live in California.
now you remember shadow living in a cave
>>572967914>he should not emote.Damn right he shouldn't. Quit trying to turn Sonic into a homosexual.
>>572967816Boom felt more like Jax & Daxter crossed with PS2 era Ratchet & Clank really.
Meth Blaze when?
>>572967914Sonic does emote in the games. Westerner redesigners complaining about how he doesn't emote enough or in the way they want him to just want to make him OOC.
>>572966489Spyro's game is getting canceled.Bubsy will go back to memestatus.Mario is...wait, why the fuck is Mario->missing a gravestone..clever.
Sticks could have worn high heels and had a purse.
>>572967972Iizuka is, because he needs to babysit SoA as much as he is allowed to. Kishimoto isn't afaik.
Boom is my favorite part of Sonic
I almost don't want to know, what did Boomdow concept art look like.
>>572966234Banjo Sly and Bubsy were never even close to as relevant as Sonic ir Mario. Spyro and Crash were closer but were always flashes in the pan.
Since there is no new game this year, it would be a good time to release Dream Team on Steam and consoles
>>572968297I thought Kishimoto or someone similarly high up also lived in Commiefornia.
>>572967914Sonic was more expressive pre-Meta Era
>>572968261>>572966974>>572966741They always seemed obsessed eith making the characters have realistic animal mouths for some weird reason.
>>572968475Hoshino.
>>572967972How do you know Kishimoto lives in California? I thought it was only Iizuka. Iizuka has been living in California since 2016 and previously lived there from 1999-2008 until he returned to Japan>>572968297Iizuka didn't prevent SOA from ruining Amy and Shadow in those character bios on SOA's website
>>572968140>Shadow and Rouge after a week long binge of crystal met-I mean powdered Chaos Emeralds.
>>572968645The key part is>as he is allowed toKishimoto living in California makes no sense because he is closely involved with game development
>>572967914Modern Sonic was plenty expressive. Especially prior to the Meta Era.Any perceived issues with his expressiveness are a consequence of that on top of 3D in general just being tougher to work with.In 2D, Modern has 0 issues same as Classic whereas Classic emotes WAY LESS than Modern in 3D.
>Iizuka was an American since 2016>The year before Forces and Mania released.Guys, we found the westernfag who has been destroying this franchise all along. You know what we must do now. We need to get Iizuka fired and blacklisted. It's the only way to cutoff the cancer.
>>572969113Iizuka literally has been in California SAVING SONIC from burgers, you dolt.
>>572968737right is literally Nu-Katt's design
>>572968140Does Katt not know that birbs have cloacas instead of a penus?
>>572967816I will always believe that if a studio gives their IP to a new team, the studio should try and support and encourage that team's unique vision of the IP as much possible and not undercut their creativity. A lot of good games were started with this approach.
>>572969214Commiefornians can't save anything. They can only twist and corrupt things. It's the effect the state has in its citizens.
>Inspired by 1991's Sonic the Hedgehog, #SonicMe was created to celebrate Sonic's 35th Anniversary! If you saw our hosts making their avatars during last week's livestream, head to http://sonic-me.com and create your own!This is literally unironically the type of content SoA wants to make. What even is this. What does it have to do with Sonic 1. What does "Sonic-Me" even mean. Why is it so ugly. How does this celebrate the series.
>>572969581Holy fuck i wish I was Buster's dad.
>>572968352I think BRB figured out what Sega/ST's design rules for Boom were by the time they got to Shadow. Boom Shadow's concept stuff is really boring. Iizuka told them, "Just draw Shadow taller" and they did it. lol
>>572969581Based. Rabbits are for human men.
>>572968774How is Iizuka not allowed to have power over the way the characters are written in both their bios and dialogue? He's literally the head of Sonic Team and supervises the lore team
>>572969929He doesn't like the Boom branch and yet it exists anyway. He and Sonic Team in general were against the original movie design and yet they were going through it anyway until they showed it to the public. Shows you how much power he actually has. At least it's more now than it was in the 2010s.
>>572968456I really want that game to be ported to PS4
>>572969682Admit it, you miss him.But, seriously, you really got to hand it to the fans that got hired by SoA and go above and beyond for this shitty franchise, despite everything.https://youtu.be/zA9zwpMj_8A
>>572969581Arthur is gonna be the new collab crossover character in rumble btw
>>572970120>Admit it, you miss him.He came back literally yesterday lolHe also revealed that the animated Mania intro was his idea and SoA was originally against it
>>572970117It’s not impossible, as far as I heard though Hardlight only has Switch 2 dev kits right now but not Sonic related
>>572970216>SoA was originally against it>You want to have fun? No you can'twhy are they like this?
>>572970079I still find it hard to believe that he can't intervene when SOA makes bad writing decisions for the characters considering the Iizuka himself wrote the script for Shadow 05
>>572969682NarcissismThey don't want heroes or heroism. Just shitty self-inserts who never did shit but we are expected to give respect. Fuck off with that gay woke nonsense.
>>572970446They said the animated intro would take resources away from polishing the game. Aaron Webber still wanted it though, so he decided to give all the budget that was meant for trailers to Tyson Hesse to make the intro in the last few months, then released it as a trailer. Everyone loved it so SoA allowed it as the game's intro last minute>>572970593Pre-2006 was a different time
nothing wrong with Shadow 05
Make sure you tell your mom you love her today.
Do you prefer Western Sonic or Japanese Sonic?Please vote if you can. I'm curious.https://strawpoll.com/PKgleQ6YRZphttps://strawpoll.com/PKgleQ6YRZphttps://strawpoll.com/PKgleQ6YRZp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34RZYs-Gzts1:05:101:12:40
>>572970216SoA was reasonable to be against that, considering how small Mania's budget was and how averse to Classic Sonic Sega was. Webber really lucked out that he could exploit some random internet artist into doing something crazy like the Mania intro and everything somehow worked out for everyone involved.
>>572959530>I think the mainline stopped making sense after GenerationsWhat do you mean?
>>572970979>and how averse to Classic Sonic Sega was.Come on anon.
>>572969682because Green Hill Zone is guess?
>>572970693>nothing wrong with Shadow 05It was made on the Renderware Engine so it can't be ported to without permission from EA.
>>572970979I call bullshit. Since when has Sega ever prioritized gameplay? Also, same fucking year as Sonic Forces so fuck right off with this.
Meme machine is back?!
>>572971165There are other backgrounds as well. Like Chemical Plant, of course, and random black void with Rings.
You're never going to convince me to see Aaron in a positive light.Him and him alone is solely responsible for how horrible the meta era was for the franchise and fandom. He is single handedly responsible for people even to this day shitting on Sonic and refusing to even give it a chance because "LOL not even Sonic's employees like Sonic or think he's good."All of irony that pervades and permeates in this franchise and fandom is solely his fault.
>>572971324It was already like that before him. He just played into it. The Sonic series was already shitting itself by releasing a game called Sonic 4, making Classic Sonic a thing, and having self-depracating humor in games like Generations
>>572971324Don't forget to mention that when he got promoted he apparently told his co-workers that he never wants to work on the IP again and apparently told that directly to his bosses.I'm going to try and find that Twitter thread now if I can, it has to be over 4 years old now but iirc they also talked about how Aaron legit never liked Sonic to begin with and thought it was lame and for babies.
>>572970650>They said the animated intro would take resources away from polishing the gameSega saying this
>>572971138Yeah, until Generations Sega really didn't seem to want to use Classic Sonic.
>>572971324Didn’t he get Arin Hanson involved?
>>572971771We're talking about well after Generations.
What explains those terrible character bios for Amy and Shadow on SOA's website despite the fact that Iizuka lives in California and supervises SOA? Is he actually that powerless or does he simply not care what SOA is doing? I personally believe it's the latter
>>572971914Lore team fucking everything up. we already got proof it's them
>>572970835I'll take a double triple Japurist Sonic inspired by westshit media, four by mischaracterization and poor localization, extra 90s attitude with a side of wind, light references, no uwuification, burn it and let it gotta go fast
>>572971914The Lore Team/Censorship TeamIizuka may speak English but it ain't his first language.
>>572962526>>572925781Here me out if the spats come off more as tight dolphin shorts we have something here.
>>572956081Me telling all the virtue signalers to fuck of from the brand.
>>572972005>>572972048I despise the lore team but how are they getting away with this?
Aaron Webber saved the Sonic serieshttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1273660121986420736
SOA is better than SOJ and i'll always support them
>>572972072Naw, fuck off with that censorship. Why don't we have uncensored mods for:Sonic Origins PlusSonic Superstars andSonic Racing CrossworldsAmy is so fucking worthless without her panty shots.
>>572971860Yeah I often forget too, but Lost World was after Generations. Classic Sonic wouldn't come back until Mania.
>>572972316fucking cringe broAmy isn't going to fuck you
>>572972440We need a mod to censor Amy's underwear and love for Sonic in SA1. That game is so misogynistic that it's unplayable
>>572972287SoA is definitely better at marketing than SoJ, but they really struggle with developing games.
>>572972424Forces was already in development before Mania and they wanted Classic there from the beginning.
>>572969929Because ultimately SoA has more power than him because the branch isn't strictly under the thumb of SoJ.SoA and thr US in general have an attitude of "knowing better". This isnt even unique to Sonic.l
the Amy we have now is better than what she was before
>>572972009We make cereal mascots here sir.
>>572971914It's just how Amy and Shadow are now.
>>57297059306 likely damaged Sonic Team and japanese side's credibility especially after Sonic 4 reviewed so well.
>>572972245>Normally this is a good way to lose your job.Didn't he literally say at one point he doesn't care if he got fired? Lmao idk if I should hate or like him from how little of a shit he seems to give. He probably doesn't even like the IP.
>>572972440She will with the right mods.
>>572972316Amy is still cute, they can never remove that.
>>572972009Okay this was funny
>>572971138Anon, Classic Sonic is basically Naka era Sonic, and in the 2010s, SEGA really wanted people to move away from Naka era and create a new image for Sonic. And Mania is just a homage to the Naka era Sonic.
>>572972771I like her being more action-oriented, but I just want her subduing to stop. Hopefully the movie changes that for the better.
>>572973320>Sega of America: Challenge acceped
>Aaron WebberGreat. Now we gotta deal with shitty memes alongside Ian's general slop. What a cursed series.
>>572972748>>572972919I'm so tired and fatigued by this. I just want Amy in the English media to be act like the Japanese version, i.e her true self>>572973029That sounds plausible. SOA is only good for marketing. They must have power over the way the characters are portrayed because SOA will change them and corrupt them
>>572972719Sonic Forces was also an anniversary game, so that might explain why Classic is there. After Generations, Iizuka said he wanted to limit blending Classic and Modern to anniversary games and seemed kinda vague about what Classic Sonic's future in the franchise would be. Also, is there any other evidence that Forces was going to basically be Sonic Generations 2(with Boomnic) outside of the few Sonic Channel arts Uekewa made?>>572973448I don't think it's because of that, Naka was still on Sega's good side at the time of Generation. I think its more that Modern Sonic had been in used for over a decade and a half and Sega was worried that the children who grew up with only Modern Sonic, wouldn't be familiar with Classic, and such wouldn't sell.Besides, Modern Sonic is also part of the Naka era.
>>572972072Its not about coom for me, I just think it looks tacky and ruins her look. She is a noodle limbed cartoon character. I'd rather they just stuff the bottom with floof like they started doing for Peach.
>>572973647Nice guy, met him playing PSOHe should go back to that since he got the job writing guides for it
>>572973768>human fingernails and animal clawsmake up your damn mind
>>572972243The term 'lore team' makes me irrationally angry when I hear it.
What if Sonic met Jazz Jackrabbit?
>>572969929Because he's a pushover who wants to please everyone.
>>572973779>with BoomnicWhy are you still pushing this conspiracy theory?
>>572973862DeLOREan Teamwho is speed, fly, power?
>>572973779>I don't think it's because of thatIt is. Why do you think they went and got Oshima, who is from another company, to take over Classic Sonic? And why did they go and get Mania team out of the picture? They wanted a new image for Classic Sonic that is not linked to the past, they want to move away from the Naka era, not because Yuji Naka himself, but they don't want people to keep comparing the current games to the old ones. because they know they can't replicate them, because most of the people who made those games aren't on SEGA anymore.
>>572973910
>amy's crush is getting sidelined everywhere inside sega who also happens to work closely with paramount>besties still think they are getting sonamy next year
>>572974470I played the game with its original screen size so I got fucked over by off-screen enemies and projectiles a lot.
>>572974819>Bro set it to DirectDraw modekeep it windowed but maximized
>>572973862Same here. The lore team doesn't even know how to make a proper timeline. They don't care about the canon. They just care about leaving their mark on it and messing with it
>>572974618You're laughingThey're neutering the female Sonic cast and you're laughing
>>572974956I didn't know any better...Well, at least I know better next time I wanna play JJR1 for whatever reason
This shall not stand
>>572974819You get fucked over by off-screen enemies and projectiles regardless. That's one of the main flaws of the first game. Just keep shooting. That's all you can do.Shame we never got a 3rd Jazz Jackrabbit game but it's too late now. I don't even think getting someone like Whitehead to make a 3rd game in the Retro Engine would end well. Especially have that Penny game.
>>572974618Tyson Hesse is producing the movie and he knows Amy's character very well and cares a lot about her
>>572975071There are like 18 people online today for some reason. which is quite a lot compared to the average these days which is like 5 to 6 people
>>5729752823rd game was being built on the same engine as unreal tournament or something, from what i had seen it didn't look too bad. Could've had fun multiplayer
>>572973910>What if Sonic met Jazz Jackrabbit??
Frontiers prerelease was funnyYou had GamesCage convinced Nintendo sold Monolith Soft to Sega, YouTubers insisting the games story was as dark looking as The Last of Us, people praising Roger’s new voice direction, and people thinking the combat was as deep as DMC or Bayonetta
SoA needs to go
>>572975530I've noticed this franchise has a lethal addiction to hype trains.
>>572975530The rumors are always hot fart. specially with Sonic
>>572975530>YouTubers insisting the games story was as dark looking as The Last of UsThey did that with Forces too, before it released
>>572975530I remember when people on here were saying that Crossworlds would beat Air Riders and Mario Kart.Wonder what those guys are doing now. Probably still here, baiting engagement.
>>572975339Hesse is a liberal, he would love for Amy to be gay
>>572975406It looked like a typical N64 platformer. Had none of the speed of the 2d games. The Alpha was leaked a long time ago and is playable. Also the soundtrack to the 3rd game was officially released so there's that.I'd rather a 3rd game just stick to being a 2d platformer. Add the ability to aim in seven directions, ducking, dedicated grenade button, and make the boss fights not suck. But that ain't happening. Jazz's time has past.
>>572972771Amy was at her best in SA1, SA2, and Unleashed and that's what she needs to go back to
Imagine if they hit us with the "We spent 5 years upgrading our game engine" special again.
>>572975945Amy has literally never been more popular than she is right now and you want to regress her
>>572972771Explain why so I can tell you how you're wrong
>>572975941That'd be nice and probably the better direction. Still, I wouldn't mind a good 3d Jazz gameBut as you said... that series is dead.
>>572975530I always knew Frontiers wouldn’t be good and that Forces is the better game.
>>572976117Nta but she's not annoying anymore at least.
>>572975920How liberal is he? If I'm not mistaken, he has White guilt according to a tweet of his
>>572976256He lives in California
Sally has three kids.
>>572975252Will Dream Team be the last canonical Sonic Media with panchira?
>>572976440Shut up, penders.
>>572976231Amy can still crush on Sonic and not be annoying
>>572976070Amy is popular if she's portrayed as cute, energetic, girly, and in love with Sonic. People don't want her to be a flavorless girl character or a girlboss
>>572976224>and that Forces is the better game.Let's not get too crazy
>>572976440all humans
>>572976537She can but Sonic Team is incapable of doing so.
Ian is the only Archie writer that actually pushed for Sonally. Let that sink in.
>>572975839Still around they’re just pushing different shit.Goalposts have changed, Sega calling it a failure hurt them enough to make videos saying Sega is lying for some reason.A lot of it was actually being pushed by the discord for some guy named Nintendeen
Bun!
>>572976552You know, I want to call that anon a retard, but the more I think about it, the more I realise I actually would rather replay Forces than Frontiers.Frontiers has the boss fights and that's about it. And even they are just button mash fests. I would gladly skip the rest of it, as it's generally dull and boring.With Forces I'd need to skip Classic's terrible stages but the rest of the game is tolerable if braindead.
>>572975530Bunch of pathetic shills. Frontiers was safe edgy and Roger's new voice direction was worse than his regular voice direction
>>572972771If youre only care about social media scorekeeping culture.Amy has historically struggled to be popular gameplaywise outside of fighting games and being OP in multi-player.So Amy was and is primarily carried by her characterization. The people that say they prefer her now only really do so because she is treated better in the meta sense by the brand by by being consistently treated as a core part of the group rather than being an outsider who makes consistent appearances due to her joining uninvited.Amy's characterization changes were for the worst, and we know this because everyone prefers how she is written in TMOSTH and post MV IDW, where she acts more like her 2000s self and all everyone's fave moments of her are the ones where she is doing some shit people associate with her 2000s self.The people who say she is better have convinced themselves the difference is her characterization when it isn't.They are just afraid of the idea of her being like her 2000s self because she got so much hate back then you had to jist accept she was inherently bad without much critical thought.Amy being a part of the gang and being more like how she was in the 2000s would be peak. Her being treated as part of the gang and stuff doesnt land if she isnt herself.
>>572976835Gallagher did it too. as a joke. Gallagher's Sonic was quite windy if you ignore early Archie's alternate reality with a sonally endgame
>>572977063Frontiers writing is pretty much on par with ForcesPeople don’t want to admit if but both are trying so hard to come off as serious when they really have no stakes, that and the attempt of character development in both is abysmal, unironically Frontiers might be worse in that regard since Amy, Tails, and Knuckles are beyond terrible in it.The sad Dad Eggman is pretty bad too coming off the heels of Forces Eggman being written as if he’s supposedly had enough this time
cumming inside mobians.
>>572977227That is pretty impressive for the 90s
>>572969581Arthur had a human? naniit's humen season.
>>572977363>Forces Eggman: I'm going to drop the sun on you because I'm sick of your shit>Frontiers Eggman: I wonder what pronouns my AI daughter prefers...
>>572977406Not until after marriage.
>>572977201This is nonsense. Female characters exist for their looks. Amy is pink cute Sonic with panty shots. Remove the panty shots and cuteness (as it the case in the current era) and she becomes worthless. Her being turned into a dude in drag is just the turd on top of the shit sundae.
Surge & Kit > Sonic & Tails & Amy & Rouge & Knuckles & Shadow & Knuckles
>>572977520
>>572973714It'd explain why the Studipolis voice actors were pushed. They were likely all meant to push for the Boom era.Also it would explain the split between the japanese and English scripts starting with Colors.SoA was given more power over how he is seen internationally.>>572974424Ive seen you push this for 5 years on here now.
>>572977520Well, Cream now has a friend who shares something in common.
Why does that guy think Sonic X is ooc
>>572977569cumming inside someone is when marriage begins
>Sonic: Memories and BeyondHow's that always just Memories and nostalgiaslop and not Beyond and focusing on the future
>>572975252>cute snaggletoothWait they might have cooked.
>>572977363There were no stakes, which I found draining, and despite the commendable focus on the relationships the characters had with each other, the game was underwhelming. Sad Dad Eggman was so uncalled for and a massive tonal shift of his character from Forces and something that feels so out of place for him
You people don't know what the trenches of YouTube and DeviantArt comment sections were like in the 2000's and it shows. I've seen legendary melties that would make the shit people do on here look like a practical joke.
>>572978091that's an edit
>>572976835True but who could have pictured Penders was aiming for Shadally
>>572977619>Female characters exist for their looks.So do all characters. They also exist for their personality and characterization.
>>572978091you retard
>>572977743What I meant to say is that SOA must NEVER have power over the way the characters are portrayed since SOA will change them and corrupt them.Anyway I despise the split between the Japanese and English scripts. They give us completely different versions of the same characters and this is not good
>>572978131>massive tonal shift of his character from ForcesNot really.No, him taking over the world and dropping an imaginary sun on them doesnt make him RoboHitler, RoboHitlerfag...
>>572978218Autistic teenagers with unrestricted and unmonitored early 2000's internet access was a hell of a thing.
>>572978218Flashback to TSSZ posting drama articles.
>>572978218Ive been on the internet since the early 2000s and have been using it since I was in elementary school.Ive seen plenty.
>>572978218Ok, give me a written report on the Sonicdude3 drama.
>>572978452Nope, just girl characters. Nobody give a shit about the personality. Amy's gimmick was her panty shots. She's worthless without them.
>>572978317I think it was obvious
>>572977743>5 years on here now.Not even that person, that is the truth. They don't want to deny the past, but they don't want their current games to keep being compared to the old ones.
>>572979026>gameoversegamegrumpslop
>>572979026If that was the case, there movie wouldn't have had to be delayed.
>>572978218>>572978967Actually, give me an oral report on it, through Vocaroo.
>>572979090In a way that makes Sonic and Kit kindred spirits
>>572979026I want Kit to crush me with her cat thighs.
>>572975530That tells you what fans want/expect out of Sonic but refuse to accept nobody working on the franchise is talented enough to deliver something like that in a Sonic game.
>>572979026>kit and her husband enter sthg for the first time
>>572979190It doesn't. Also, she's ugly.
Arin Hanson shat on Sonic games for a decade for "taking themselves too seriously" only to write and act out scenes like this https://youtu.be/-_-4CvOpSbE?si=IGD6IFu4Qs8nuiI0&t=403
>>572979357We could have prevented this
>>572979357What a joke. Should’ve just stuck to being Egoraptor.
>>572979440>meme machine 2000you say that as if it's a bad thing but sonicfags love memes. have always did. look at ataric
>>572979357>videoThat shit is what you guys have been advertising here for the past month? lmao
>>572979337Denial
>>572979357This is literally everything Arin thought was wrong with Sonic games. Edgy and dramatic with no substance. Just a generic cartoon therapy speech sequence with no weight behind it all"Nothing you ever did was your fault" what?
>>572975530Fadel really looking at any Sonic game and thinking Monolith Soft is involved shows he really has never played their games before
>>572979617That character design is gross dude.
Sonic Boom was an attempt by SOA to make Sonic appeal more to the west than it already did but Boom didn't work because Sonic fans already liked Sonic for what it was and because it had Japanese influences. Anime and manga fans in the west like anime and manga because they're different from western animation and western comics in terms of culture
>>572978039what future?
>>572979073The why would you get Oshima to work on Superstars?The narrative makes no sense. It's 90sfag schizophrenic navelgazing.
>>572979760No the other thing
>>572979904They're connected because he made a meme Twitter song once?
Everyone who claims to like girl characters for their "personality" is a fucking liar. And they will do backwards backflips in knowledge to justify why they like a girl when its just a question of tits, ass, and not being a fat cow. Lying about this is why Amy "personality" is being ruined cause they don't want to admit that boys like seeing upskirts and girl's panties. They think if she's just Sonic in drag that that'll somehow make her equal well it fucking doesn't.You wouldn't even be bother to discuss her at all if her design wasn't appealing. That's why Penny's game was a fucking bomb.
The future of Sonic is just games built around the movies. It's obvious this Metal Sonic short is some practice simulation for Metal and built around hyping him up for movie 4.The next mainline game will be about Metal Sonic with the Core 4 + Shadow.The game after that will be about whatever movie 5 is about.Then movie 6.They will not stop until the movies stop making money. Sonic is a movie adaptation franchise now. It's exactly what happened to Spider-man with the Raimi films. Now the entire Spider-man franchise treats that trilogy as the main source instead of the comics.
>>572980001Who the fuck is Penny?
>>572978218Why do you want me to remember the weird conversations people used to have in comment sections that I read a long time ago,
>aaron webber is back to fuck everything upAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It isn't even SoA doing that, SoJ is composed of the only fags there are in JapanAnd they do hire some Americans
Ok actually nevermind, since we're in the crossover era watch as Aaron Webber gets Sonic to crossover with that thing now
>>572980001The call out Quagmire did to Bryan was full of shit and hypocritical and so are you.
>>572980146Exactly
>>572980146exactly
>>572979990YesThis is what CWC would want
>>572968737Is this Mongrels?
>>572978749I mostly read the articles concerning the Penders case because the comments were always Flynnfagas vs. Pendersfags (Yes, really).
>>572979867Because it would make it easier for people to accept the change in direction of Classic Sonic. People wanted Oshima back, so they put Oshima back in charge, but to work on a classic game that is different from the usual classic. It won't be a pixelated game that runs the same way as the Naka era classic games. But a completely different Sonic game with the new visuals and style that SEGA wanted. And people accepted it, just because it was Oshima doing it. Get it?
>>572980120For sure this animation is to buff Metal for movie 4 since he's supposed to be an actual threat greater than previous.
Sonic would be better without girls
Aaron Webber for CrossWorlds
>>572980001the same applies to boys though, if sonic as a character wasn't so appealing as a design the franchise wouldn't survive this long, imagine if vector or bean was the mc.
>>572980146Sonic Team doesn't know how to make good games. Japan is just bad at making games. Mania is the only good Sonic game because it was made by fans. Only Whitehead AND Taxman know how to make good games. No I will never look at any other games made by the Mania developers. Mania is the only good game ever made. I've never played it btw
>>572974819>PicIs there full version somewhere?
>>572980297Webber better not be allowed to go back to Game Grumps shilling because they are old news now.
>>572980120That a 9 years plans at best so the next 2 main games
>>572980618Well I hope you guys stop bringing up that shitty show in this general then
>>572980120Sonic is in a position where a single flop from the movies might kill the franchise.
>>572980313The open degenerate rapist who admits he dates women for their bodies has a point. The woke degenerate rapist's performative bullshit is worst.Amy is nothing without her looks and panty shots. That will ALWAYS be the case.
>>572980120They also have an infinite number of stories they can pull from Archie to adapt in the movies. Mobius is real
>>572980120What movie was Frontiers based on?
>>572979856Silver's
>>572980120They wouldnt be giving Whisoer and Tangle voices of they were not gonna include them in the next gameCount them tooAlso the ChaotixAnd Omega and RougeAnd SageAnd Silver and Blaze are cucked to death so dont count themMaybe we'll get some Maria flashback tooo
>>572979357A lot of e-celebs think that just because they made a commentary/review youtube channel dissecting media in a somewhat "professional" manner they think they have the skills to produce better media than the stuff they criticized which 99% of the time isn't true. It's funny how he trashed sonic only to churn out something that feels like a knockoff of it writing wise
>>572980779The fact that movie 3 was a critical and commercial success means that the first movie that fails will be blamed on the new character. The Shadow movie succeeded so Sega just reaffirms that Shadow is popular. If an Amy or Silver movie fails those two are fucked.
>>572971798Nta but yes which is why I personally don’t trust him that much desu
>>572980513>the same applies to boys though,Not really. Mario ain't particularly appealing. Neither is Freddy Fazbear. Nathan Drake was also fairly generic from a design standpoint.
>>572980825The 1st one
>>572980816I miss sprite comics so much
>>572980825>What movie was Frontiers based on?Frontiers is literally influenced by the first Sonic movie. Cyber corruption is just an excuse to feature similar visual effects to the first movie. The ring portals suddenly look and act the way they do in the movies. Super Sonic's energy aura is now just the one from the second movie directly. The same joke about a buttcopter is repeated word-for-word in Frontiers
>>572980803Quagmire isn't anything of the sort. He makes excuses for himself all the time and demands sympathy from others at every turn.Its just him grandstanding to try and justify irrational ire he has for Bryan by making himself feel more "authentic" when he is just a different kind of performative.Also that anons post was incoherent. The design of the character is supposed to reflect their personality. If their personality didnt matter, we wouldn't primarily argue about it.>>572980803>Amy is nothing without her looks and panty shots. That will ALWAYS be the case.I legit didn't even notice or think of them prior to some prude online complaining about them in his video about 15 years ago.It wasnt ever supposed to be lewd to begin with.
>>572957350 >Blaze flirts with Sonic, blushes on his touch, has intimate personal gesturesthe only one this isnt a headcanon is blush, but it also happens with silver, amy and others, you're reading too much into a classically shy character and one moemnt from a western comic regardless.>>572958725he might be referring to idw issue 63 shipbait where blaze held hand and blushed, though her blushing isn't sonic exclusive in japanese stuff and i don't think the western side will attempt to shipbait sonaze again after the drama it brought. the truth is that sonaze is astroturfed by minorities and can't really compete with more popular stuff like sonamy or even silvaze. it's too much bother to ever tease it in some american comic again.
The movies are incredibly mediocre
>>572981091mario is popular for gameplay, not for his character or story. sonic meanwhile is more popular for the aesthetics than either gameplay or story.
>>572981357kids like it because sonic acts like funny chungus po from kong fu panda with "deep" emotional bonding
>>572981294>I must stand behind the liberal degenerate or I'm a bad person>I legit didn't even notice or think of them...I just need to argue that they should be goneThat's nice. This is the exact kind of mental gymnastics I was expecting.
>christian whitehead saves the franchise>punished by not being allowed to make mania 2
>>572980825>What movie was Frontiers based onThe combat is based on the animation from movie 1, story wise it isn't really tied to the movies except using similar visuals for the alien flashbacks
>>572981091Mario is liked just for being recognizable.Nathan Drake is the western equivalent of generic isekai protagonist but for whote dudes. You can even make that kind of argument of Mario desu.Sonic actually has to be appealing because he is a cartoon hedgehog.
>>572980120This is such a stupid business model and proof that Sonic Team is creatively bankrupt.>The next mainline game will be about Metal Sonic with the Core 4 + Shadow.Of course there's an obligatory Shadow because he's Iizuka's pet character>>572980476I hope this happens>>572980779That'll teach Sega a lesson
Hello /sthg/!
>>572981152>The same joke about a buttcopter is repeated word-for-word in FrontiersIanism. Westerners always make that joke
>>572973768This could be a real easy blob feet edit.
>>572981605Forces saved the franchiseMania always sucked
>>572980825Frontiers was riding on the coattails from the second movie (it released 7 months after the movie hit theaters). It wasn't until the third movie that Izuka realized that the movies having better synergy with the games would lead to better sales. The reason why we got Shadow Generations at all was because the third movie was going to be centered around Shadow (see pic related). The plan must've worked since if the fourth movie is based around Metal Sonic/Amy, and if that new animation is to mean anything, the next game might have both characters play major roles.
the sonic movies will basically be like what generations are for pokemon, they will determine what the next year or two of content is focused on
>>572981305>he might be referring to idw issue 63 shipbait where blaze held hand and blushedBut then they are working their way backwards from a western comic made over a decade after rather than examining the actual game on its own.>>572981580Those sure would things i never said you made up to have something to argue against.I actually dont want or need them gone. But if something had to be done, spats were not the thing I woulda prefered.Self righteous twit.
If Keanudow didnt hit even hit $500 million in the box office I cant see how the movies are gonna growThey pulled their biggest guns already
People used to cope and say the lightning was cyber energy but now Shadow and Classic Sonic can both do it so clearly it's just supposed to be their power. Surge is redundant now, Sonic can do everything she can.
>>572981621>The combat is based on the animation from movie 1I dont see it.
>Sonic Team gets more creative control in the mid to late 90s>Make an American division to just work on Sonic while freeing the main Japanese branch to work on passion projects because they were tired of SonicLol
>>572981994>The plan must've worked since if the fourth movie is based around Metal Sonic/Amy, and if that new animation is to mean anything, the next game might have both characters play major roles.YAYYYYY!!!!!Maybe the CD remake is real! Or rather maybe its a 3D CD sequel like a return to Little Planet type story!Sonic and Amy go together for old time sake!
>>572981662t steven universe, tadc kinda female oriented stuff has female characters that arent attractive or cute be liked by the female audience.sayaka from eizouken has an ugly face too and i ve seen her posted a lot back in the day despite the shows watchers mostly being male. theres exceptions everywhere if you search for it. i wont deny that male audiences mostly only care for female characters they can jack off to but still.in terms of sonic franchise whether its boys or girls only characters whose design is appealing are talked about at all.
>>572982161I agree. I have a hard time believing Movie 4 is gonna do as well as movie 3.They shoulda waited before jumping the gun. Like everyone else, they just cant help themsleves but wanna use Shadow.
>>572982173https://youtu.be/WO23WBji_Z0
>>572982097>I actually dont want or need pany shots gone. I just need to argue at people who want them cause I'm a good person.More righteous than you by a mile and a half.
I really hope Aaron coming back doesn't mean Emi has her tendrils in the franchise again
cnc (mandatory)
>>572973787This is how I want her movie dress to be too.
<3
>>572982884>HAAAA I'M TURNING GAAAAY!Why fucking purple?
>>572982097well i can think of satbk which had caliburn ''ship'' percival and sonic but percival is technically not blaze but her doppelganger. other than that i can't think of any japanese content where i can see someone interpreting sonaze as romantic without being shipbrained. come to think of it, japanese audience rarely strays away from sonamy and silvaze for sonic and blaze (unless its time to ship sonic with shadow or knuckles) i ve seen a few jp shadamy artists but jp sonaze art is extremely rare, i wonder what caused this disrepancty in interpretation between jp and usa audience.
>>572983065dude it's a serious moment all of his friends are trapped as ghosts in ghost hill and the universe is collapsing
>>572982879Daffy is a better match for Amy than Shadow
>>572982786>need to argue at people who want them cause I'm a good person.No, I'm arguing against the idea that it's the only reason to like the character.
>>572983208They're both goats, so this is cute.
This is all my fault this time, sorry about that.
>>572981774Hello, foxboy.
>>572982097>>572983117anotherthing besides wes jp i noticed is that its also the mostly male audience who sees it as romantic or even cares about enough to search for romantic subtext at all. female audience defaults to stuff like sonamy, shadamy, silvaze, sonadow etc. i know like 2 cis women who cared about sonaze
>>572983384No woman would hold accountability, so you must be male.
A Sega of America collaborator revealed the Sega of America lore team was erasing Amy’s love for Sonic and Shadow’s love for Maria, among other details. He later deleted these messages, indicating Sega of America anticipates a negative fan reaction. The info surfaced days ago but was heavily censored, causing some to doubt its validity. Here’s the chat image and HTML. Download then open in browser to view: https://files.catbox.moe/qcx24e.html
>>572983208ducks should fear chadow
>>572983472Hello foxgirl!
EVERYTHING YOU ASSHOLES MAKE ABOUT SURGE
>>572983134Seriously gay.
>>572983531>it's realWhose FUCKING idea was it to hire sonic fans.
Tails is so cute!
>>572983208Daffy belongs to me.
>>572983665bitchdow could never take down Chaddy duck, he's got toon force on his side
Why do I see so many people putting Amy in Elphelt's outfit?
>>572983531Sega of America is openly changing the characters so Sega of Japan should start changing the western characters
>>572983531We're fucked.
>>572983870He is!!!!!
>>572983882coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
How would you react if this happened?
>>572984090Sonic should be unsurprised
>>572983531Didn’t we do this last week
>>572983882toonforce is not a real power level instrument. that's like playing minecraft creative mode
>>572983531
>>572984013I want to hold him
>>572983957they should canonically behead belle
Ice cream!>>572984242:)
>>572983531You still haven't proven any of this as being real and not completely made up.
They're removing Amy's love for Sonic because it's hetero.They're removing Shadow's love for Maria because it's hetero, and because Maria is a white skinned blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl.
Somoeneeee should make a game that's obscenely heteroexual, just saying
>>572983291>Stop liking girls for their bodies you bigot!You wouldn't bother looking at Amy without her figure. Nobody would.
You people need to understand that Sega of Japan is both aware and ok with this>>572984314Kino
>>572984395Shadow never loved Maria anyways.
>>572984339>you know what they say, doc. If you can't beat em, join em
The mortician will weep when I am finished with the Daffyfag.
>>572984395>Maria is a white skinned blonde-haired, blue-eyed girlRemember all the pedos who self reported when Pragma came out?
>>572984543they say right in the messages there's a tug of war going on and japan is resisting it
>>572984395They're removing my dick skin because religiously i'm hetero
I hate drama niggers.
>>572982880>those models
>>572984754But it's so hot, and nothing happening is interesting
>But she has quality gameplay, personality, and...Don't fucking care. Nobody cares about ugly girls.
>>572984754maybe soa should stop wrecking the characters with faggot propaganda
https://nitter.poast.org/Sephys00/status/2072401603504529647Sometimes they just translate/get info from Japanese directly and it stays intactThis localization for this series is just extremely inconsistent (outside of the 2000s, which was a bit better, wait nevermind that only applies to the games, Sonic X was a mess too). I think SoJ trusts SoA to make changes that are supposed to appeal to the western audience, based on that Japanese Kishimoto interview for Frontiers
>>572984868It's still a fact that most girls don't play video games so catering to them is just making less money
>>572983117>i wonder what caused this disrepancty in interpretation between jp and usa audience.Westerners are more prone to self insert as the characters than the Japanese. Simple as.JP shipping seems more based on the actual characters dynamics than self insert wish fulfillment.
I think Shadow and Amy should have 3 kids in canon
What's fucking funny is that Ian/Lore Team/SoA is pulling what Penders was going to do with Shadow and Sally.
Amy is worthless and not part of the Core 4
:D
>>572984576Yeah. It tore him up inside because she was just a really good lay tbqh.
>>572983491Cool girl syndrome.
>>572984668We need to keep pressuring SOJ to stop SOA by sending SOJ complaints
>>572985178So picrel is gonna be real soon?
Thoughts on Shadow "developing" and moving on from Maria?
>>572985217Adorable MEN
>>572985352Awful
>>572985178How is it funnyHow the fuck is it funny that Penders dragged out Sonally for so long because he had no intention of it? How is it funny that Shadow and Amy are being changed by IDW writers?
Your bait is weak and your topics are lame. Suck my dick.
>>572984339holy shit! thank you iizuka ! https://voca.ro/11K0BCHDc1km
>>572985352Best thing for him to do.
>>572983531Well, there you have it. Direct evidence that Sega of America, Evan, Katie, and the rest are trying to kill the only two canon heterosexual couples in the franchise. Not Sega of Japan. Not Iizuka. It's all Sega of America. You guys tried to long to convince everyone it wasn't their fault, but it was. They're trying to change these characters into something they never were.
>>572985385The collective effort to destroy Sonic's ships and pair the girls with Shadow. The west seems to love humiliating Sonic.
>>572985353Yep. Cute men!
>>572985352Don't care
Someone told me that Evan and Gigi are responsible for taking Shadow's live away and their next goal is making him fall in love with Amy.Source is I made it the fuck up.
>>572985557Neither of them are canon or couples
>>572985352>Thoughts on destroying Shadow's entire character?
>>572985402nice
>>572985558>Sonic's ships>>572985557>canon coupleswhat about the wind?
>>572985639Evan is a diehard Shadougefag
Sonic stopped being the cool guy once Shadow debuted. That's the harsh truth. That's why people want Shadow to have all the ladies.
In case no one else dropped it here yet:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJuJrqFhXM
>>572985505shadow will never fuck your waifu
>>572985352Aye
The only reason it's possible to cuck Archienic (which happened many times) is because he cares about romance.
"Character Development" is just a trojan horse to bastardize the characters. IP vandalism pretending to be "progress". Never trust Sega of America employees.
Everyone's best partner!
^-^
>>572985881Shadougefags want to destroy shadow. fuck off
>>572985178Fuck you, no they're not. Shadow is dedicated to Maria, not Sonic's shitty pink fangirl.
>>572985909Lol didn't Ian want Gamenic to notice Amy drifting away from him in Frontiers?
If Penders got to write his deranged Shadally plot he never would have sued Archie
>>572986020Shadamy is shadria: after story. get with the times, aunt
>>572986016Shadow saved Rouge more than Maria.
>>572986137Penders didn't sue Archie. Penders sued Sega. Archie sued Penders afterwards.
>>572985936True!
>>572986219Yeah!
Niggas involved in this franchise in the west take one look at Shadow and suddenly go schizo over who he should marry.
>>572986337Best character in the series right here
>>572985683why thank you anon
Shadouge fans are Archiefags
>>572986016shadriafags never cared about Shadow, just their self-insert fantasies
Amy will become trans.
>>572986586Who the fuck would want to self-insert as a girl who fucking dies? You're retarded. Maria is literally the only girl Shadow canonically loves.
>>572985505>>572985881Are you guys actually retarded?Do you really...REALLY...think they're going to make Sonic and Shadow move on to another girl? Are you this naive?
Metal Sonic getting all these cool powerups won't mean shit if he still gets his ass kicked at the end. He needs a win if they want him to stay threatening. It doesn't have to be him standing over a defeated Sonic, he just needs to do something that affects how Sonic looks at him from now on. What I'm saying is that Metal Sonic needs to kill Tails.
So which one of these two games was truly the worst?
>>572986637She already is, didn't you see her scene at the end of the movie?
Shadriafags are dogfuckingfags
>>572986586it's literally the character moron
Who cares about your shitty drama?when does this show start airing?
Shadriafags just want this static characterization 24/7.
>>572986981>Shadriafags just want Shadow
>>572986981This is OOC.
>>572986980It's not a show just a 10 minute animation
>>572986463Factual statement
>>572986981i am sorry you dislike shadow perhaps you should ship knuckles instead if it bothers you
>>572987032>Shadriafags just want a 1 dimensional whiny crybaby
>>572986981Shadougefags don't even like Shadow
>>572986981As opposed to what? Shadow getting randomly shipped with some girl?
>>572986980>showIt's a 10 minute animation dude
>>572987163Cope harder faggot
>>572987119>>572987183ok........... when do the tiktok shorts start?
>>572987254you're the one who is coping, maria is dead in canon and shadow has put the past behind him
>>572987179>girlsonadow is going to be canon. evan likes it. ian likes it. soa likes it. nobody gives a fuck about hetslop anymore
>>572987123I love him so much
>>572986586both of it is mostly that desu
>>572987356this
>>572987314he mentions her wish in crossworlds
>>572987391Me too me too!
>>572987367>maria replacementlmao
>>572983531Someone should post this to Twitter.
>>572983531This is something anyone with eyes can see with how fucking boring Amy got. Of course it’s SoA shovelling crying lesbians and boring faggot side birds while having their panties in a twist over a girl liking a boy.
>>572987356>hetslop
>Shadow the hedgehog. >personality: does nothing but cry about mah-re-ah all day everyday.so deep and emotional
>>572987586Have you tried moving on to Knuckles?
>>572987367>implying this bat with a crush on Knuckles feels anything but pity for Shadow
>>572987452Building a life sized Tails animatronic
>>572987630Peak!
>>572987552shadow says he can't trust rouge in crossworlds
Why does Krack pretend to be some kind of legitimate researcher of Shadow who knows everything?
>>572987552based and canon
>>572985739Sonic being the wind means he does whatever he wants and runs free anywhere. It's not a statement about whether he's able to be in a romantic relationship or not
>>572987771>It's not a statement about whether he's able to be in a romantic relationship or nothi newfag
>>572987771>It's not a statement about whether he's able to be in a romantic relationship or notRight because that statement is even more direct and official than the wind
>>572973779>Also, is there any other evidence that Forces was going to basically be Sonic Generations 2(with Boomnic) outside of the few Sonic Channel arts Uekewa made?The grappling hook on the avatar that's like the enerbeam or whatever and Boom's shoes and bandages being CaC options
Sonic literally got cucked! what a loser
>>572987771>every single time a fan asks someone official about sonic and relationships they say some variation of "Absolutely not" to "He isn't interested in this kind of thing" >shipperfags still try to come up with copes If you think Sonic can date you're just delusional
>>572987896GO BACK TO THE KITCHEN
>>572987771sonic's other dad got the same stance>>572987949what if penders always knew sonic was like the wind and wanted to end sonally for that reason alone?
For the love of god stop posting your fucking twitter screenshots here. No one fucking cares you annoying dramafag
>>572987627>*throws mom*
>>572987771>. It's not a statement about whether he's able to be in a romantic relationship or notWhy do you keep saying this as if we do not have at least a dozen statements about this with the only one that has any room for interpretation is Evan fucking StanleyYes, Sonic cannot be in a relationship get over it you retarded bestie/archiefag/whatever you are
>>572987826>>572987831>>572987973>>572988087Not a newfag. You people are such buzzkills who don't know how to have fun
>>572988097Sonic the Hedgehog?
Ah yes Maria, I remember her now...she was like a sister to me. But that's ancient history now, I've put the past behind me and grown as a person
>>572988097take your own advice, Failspedo.
>>572988165>not a newfagthen a shipper on copium
>>572988097I am not them I just thought it was a good explanation.
>>572988231I've been posting characters from this franchise the whole thread yeah
>>572985264blaze isn't even the ''cool girl'' the same way westerners project on though. she's duty obsessed (and no the point of rush isnt to move on from that, the point of rush is that she can fulfill her duties better if she can co operate instead of doing everything alone, hence ''burning'' blaze (firepilled rather than windpilled) uptight and anal ''proper'' and is more likely to drink tea with cream or silver when stuff is chill than to seek adventure. >>572985113see, i say that ''silvaze has romantic undertones '' for 06 and some other things analysis and people call me either shipfag, ''they are siblings'' or try to disprove me because blaze supposedly has a crush on sonic or whatever. i dont even say these stuff to shipfag but to analyze stories and themes of stuff sonic team puts out. (i know they aren't literally lovers, that isn't the point) i try to do same for sonamy too but thankfully, sonazefags at least seem to know they can't really compete that by now so they settle on making blaze his second harem girl. its tiring to discuss anything beyond surface level with western fanbase desu.
>>572988165>it is not a statement on if sonic can be in an official relationshipwhy would you say this if you are already aware that there are, in fact, statements that sonic can't be in a relationship
>>572988279Ooc.You hate Shadow.
>>572987746does someone else know more about shadow?
Shipperfags really are like "Well they didn't say it upside down while dancing on a unicycle so there's still room for interpretation" Actual low iq behavior
>tfw your "fans" ship you with your deceased surrogate sister. Incest is bad just so you know
>Metal Sonic is back and he's stronger than ever!>It's going to take more than just super speed for Sonic to take him down this time.....I swear this has happened at least at least 5 times before in the franchise and Metal loses every God damn time. This isn't going to be any different other than the cool flashy fight scenes.
>>572987896You know, there are studies on Disney Adult that found they view Disney and Disneyland as a sort of religious experience. I wonder if Sonic fans are the same way.
>>572988642Metal Sonic is a super jobber nowadays.
>>572988097>For the love of god stop posting your fucking fox pictures here. No one fucking cares you annoying pedophile
>>572987771You can tell this is a Sonamyfag because Sonallyfags actually had the official confirmation shoved down their throats by Ian and all the other Archie writers when the reboot hit. Sonamyfags never had a writer who was outright on their side confirming that Sega said Sonic in particular doesn't want romance.
>>572987367You know you can pause Youtube videos and then move the cursor away to get rid of the red bar when you make screenshots right?
Krack is about to lose her shit any second now i feel her aura
>>572975530Keep in mind all of this happened right after we saw a just a little bit more gameplay after that IGN teaser that was almost unanimously agreed sucked balls. My goodness the situation was dire.
>>572988810Sonamyfags are about to learn in 2027 that the no romance mandate is such a binding part of Sonic's character that even highly OOC versions have to follow it
>>572988097I don't like random Twitter screenshots either, but at least the post in the screenshot is on topicAlso I think you're underestimating how obsessed with namefags certain users here are lol>>572988293Well I don't see him posting Twitter screenshots at all
>>572988791My images are on topic so this isn't the gotcha moment you think it is
Why people defending soa removing amy love?
I keep forgetting Chris Thorndyke's girlfriend already looks exactly like Maria. That's so cursed.
>>572989030>defendingwe just don't really care, nigga
>>572989030Those people defending this shit don't like Amy
>>572989030that's idwfags for you.
There used to be a time it was more common for 4chan screenshots to be posted on other sites like Twitter, but over the past 12 or so years he situation got reversed>>572988791We all care actually, we need more of them
>>572989113you are not part of "we" if you like idw
>>572988984I just don't like people using a website whose whole point is anonymity to promote their online personas on other websites
>>572988971literally applies to anything outside of nitedon
>>572989208I don't. I hate it
>>572989212nobody can prevent someone from screenshotting their posts nigga
>>572988769>Nowadays
>>572989030Sonamybesties are so stupid that they actually deserve Amy's romance being removed. Sega of America is doing us all a favor at this point. You retards can look at a bright red sign that says "SONIC WILL NEVER SLOW DOWN FOR AMY" and still come up with retarded ways to explain your retardation and really you don't even understand the characters you're just self inserting. Getting rid of Sonamy means no more Sonamyshitters and Sonic can finally move on to someone who actually matches his speed and sense of adventure without slowing him down
Amy should have a edgy death.
>>572989198Tailsposting is necessary
>>572989389sonurgemost anti sonamyfags have ulterior motives rather than actually being wind
>>572983531Who is this Grant? Why should I trust what he says?
>>572989384Why does he light the filter? Is he retarded?
>>572988279>like a sisterlmao. I don't give af about my sister.
>>572989389Fake news. Sonic doesn't have a penis.
>>572989030Bad actors as always.
>>572988097>Purposely visit my Twitter>Screenshot my posts>Post it on 4chan.org /sthg/>Blame me for doing itWhen will the cycle end?
>>572989292>literally applies to anything outside of nitedonNite and Don are allowed to be together because unlike Sonic it was part of their character. You can give Tails a crush if you want but you can't give one to Sonic, Amy, Shadow, or anyone who clearly has an official opinion on romance.
>>572989389you can't say these words while posting that shit
>>572989212That's fair and it does happen, I just think it's dangerous to blame every screnshot on the person being screenshotted, it can easily lead to even more drama, anyone could impersonate anyone else if you see it like that>>572989442It's foundational for a good community
>>572989590Two cats, not standing, cool duofag's OCs.
>>572989696Well ok then
>>572989506He's distracted.
>>572989470That's because being the wind is just some faggy "uhhh I can't be tied down!" bullshit. It's the kind of flaky shit a dumb teenager says.
>>572989695Yuji Naka never said Sonic isn't interested in Surge
>>572989692i am pretty sure they literally aren't allowed to do explicit romance at all unless its comic ocs. tails isnt going to date or have a crush on idw or whatever. they would ve done it now already if it was allowed.
>>572989782Lazy fucker only takes the most boring ones.
>see screenshot of twitter post on 4chan>think that the person who made the tweet themselves is the one who took the screenshot and posted itwhy are tailspedos so fucking stupid bros?
>faggot takes the bait every time
>>572989864if he can't be tied town he isnt going to date another girl either.
>>572989292Either way Sonic is clearly stated a million times he doesn't care about romance but yeah I'm pretty sure this is most of the characters INCLUDING TANGLE AND WHISPER
>>572989830I don't actually care all that much, feel free to blame it on whoever you feel and cause a bunch of drama it's not that serious lolThis is a joke btw, before some moron takes it seriously>>572989987I said the same thing as you though?
Pedo spam hours
>>572989692>>572989907heck they arent even allowed to make whispangle canon cuz they werent pitched with lesbian crush or relationship.
>>572988384>blaze isn't even the ''cool girl'' the same way westerners project on though.Yes but she is comparable in power to sonic and has a superform and is more edgy and serious. That's all they see or care about.>its tiring to discuss anything beyond surface level with western fanbase desu.Tell me about it
>>572989897he said sonic ain't settling down. and amy was made to show this character trait. he aint settling for amy, nor sally, nor surge, nor anonette the human woman
>>572956081CUTEandCANONAMERICAnic WON
>>572990437yet all the sonaze art sissifies her to be a second amy or uwu shy softgirl anyway. i am convinced a lot of this is about having the heterosexual version of sissification fetish and amy is supposedly too sissy for the sissification to apply. well, sonaze is still understandable to some extent but sonurge is definitely about that.
>>572990238Yeah I don't want wannabe e-celebs in this general. The person screenshotted is a known namefag and the fact that person's twitter is constantly brought up ruins the point of anonymity. They already refer to themselves through these names and don't even try to mask their persona, treating this place as a secondary social media platform Whatever
>>572989030I'm not. Its horrible. Ive just said it soamy times now that it's draining to even talk about anymore.
>>572990478Surge doesn't want to settle down, she wants to be a hero like Sonic
Holy crap it's Chadvok! Are you here to plow my sister Maria? Well don't mind me, I'll just go get her and be out of your way. And don't worry about the sheets, I'll wash them afterwards.
>>572990734good for her. but sonic is still not interested in romance with her
>>572990697Fuck off with your dramawhoring
>>572990697You had sex with your cousin fuck off
>>572990478>he aint settling for [...] sallyToo late, he already did! Not interested in your corposlop retcons, newcancer :)
>>572990697Tailspedo talking about anonymity thread quality is funny you avatarfag daily. Kys already tailspedo.
>>572990734Her wanting to be a hero like Sonic doesn't mean she is interested in Sonic romantically
>>572990697Certain people here use this general as an extension to Twitter/Discord when they get blocked/banned or they want to insult someone without them knowing, it's sadAnyway, the most recent TailsTube episode was in April, maybe we'll get a new one soon
>>572990837This isn't the gotcha you think it is>>572990914I didn't. You think I do because you don't know who I am exactly and what I post. And that's a good thinh
>>572990915doesn't count because no one was mandating those comics. it got nuked all the way up to the retcon galaxy the moment they did
>>572990985Fuck off with this boring shit
>>572990915Isn't this itself a retcon from Ken Penders's grand vision of Sally having three kids with Shadow
I miss transtails
>still taking the bait
>>572990982I'm surprised Tailstube is still going, I remember when it was announced I thought it was just a minor thing
>>572990935Fucking this holy shit. Hypocrites the lot of them.
>>572990982Nobody cares dramafag
>>572991194(you)
Tailsfag literally fucked his own cousin
>>572991078I'd say penders is retconning himself with shadally since he already was involved in x years later in its very beginning
>>572989897Like I always said, shiptards always have to spin a narrative that Sonic specifically doesn't like Amy to try and make their ship work
if the image bothers you so much you can just go back to twitter
>>572991307What was the point of giving Sonic a pair of kids and then killing them off only to bring them back/replace them with shadow's kidsi never understood this. there is no actual plot line here it's just misery for no reason.
>>572991275is that really a big deal? I did too
>>572990697>>572991239sorce of these
>>572991239I didn't expect it to last this long either, I guess it's successful enough. I'm glad it is, I like it>>572991264My posts ITT are designed to reduce drama. I saw a post that I thought was at high risk of increasing the drama, so I told him to be careful. Anyway, what do you think of TailsTube?
>>572991486maybe I'll ask kenpen since he's active on bsky
>>572991579lmao this faggot has a bluesky account
>>572991701sinec 2 years ago. he doesn't like elon being a trumper or x's grok scanning art to be the ultimate slop
>>572991570I don't remember, it's a Chinese artist if I recall correctly
>>572990628Yes because the kind of guy that likes this kind of character gets a high out of breaking girls like her like a horse into being submissive and breedable.Like a suppressed faggotry where they wanna feel manly by dominating others
>His DMs are off.
>>572991936>>572990628You're both wrong. These guys are closeted and actually self insert as Blaze lol.
>>572991570https://x.com/pupu77859245726/status/2015928489703092267
SHADOW FUCKED SALLY THREE TIMES LOL
Sonic, what's wrong with your penis and balls?
>>572992204How? He doesn't have a penis.
>>572992129blaze self inserters i ve seen mostly shipped silvaze or blazamy desu. maybe trans sonaze shippers self insert as blaze
In the stream yesterday they said they made the Chao shorts because they wanted to introduce younger fans to Chao Gerden mechanics. The latest TailsTube episode also explains Chao Gerden mechanics. Maybe the Chao Garden is coming back for real this time
>>572992204ic or sally ooc for shadow yeah?
>>572989389>SonurgeYou are the same ilk as Sonamyfags with no self awareness. Surge is hideous too, at least choose a hot one.
>>572992509If it does come back, it'll be really dumbed down.
Sonurgefags are just Sonamyfags with a tsundere fetish change my mind
=)>>572992631Probably. Which would be really stupid since that genre of games is more popular than ever now
>>572990428Which proves how forced it is
>>572992719Tails is shit
>>572992129elaborate
>>572992551Ask a jpfag
>>572992497Thats what im saying, tho its the type of troon that ends up identifying as a chuddy femboy
new blitz update soon
Death to all Tailsposters
>>572958725My argument is simple, SEGA vetos out stuff that is seen as outside of the bounds of the character.Blaze is allowed romantic textual and subtextual language with Sonic, the romantic interpretation of her characterization doesn't comes from fans, it comes from within, exactly as Ian Flynn, one of the writers in the games, told.
Sonic appeared in a bunch of stuff before his first game:>Cameo in Rad Mobile, in October 1990>Dreams Come True Wonder 3 tour in November 1990, where Sonic was plastered on the tour bus and posters>On the arcade flyer for Cotton in April 1991>A Sonic themed minigame in Puzzle Construction, released in May 1991>An unofficial cameo in The Adventures of Quik & Silva, in May 1991>As the namesake for Sonic! Software Planning, a joint venture studio by Sega and Climax Entertainment in June 12th 1991And potentially the first issue of the Sonic Story Comic, published on Mega Drive Fan in June, though we don't know the dateSega did promote Sonic so idk why Yamaguchi said they didn't
Was he right, bros?https://youtu.be/perVPDK38iA
Love Tails.
>>572992831There are two types of troons broadly speaking. You got the ones that like the fantasy of being treated like a girl and then you have the ones that find girl stuff cringe but get off on being dominated into it.Blaze provides the fantasy of the latter. The person is too up their own ass and finds femininity cringe, frivolous and weak, so they want someone to make them feel that way by proxy and "put them in their place".Its hard to explain but ive been in these spaces and its a pattern you just see after a while.
>>572993161Yes!
>>572958725I think they’re hinging on that IDW panel of her being embarrassed lol>>572992974You shiptards already got btfo’d by her creator
>>572992813>>572992959Lol cope>>572993012SPEC 7 as well, also in November 1990>Sega did promote Sonic so idk why Yamaguchi said they didn'tWhere did he say that? I guess he meant not as much as in the US
>>572992684I hate the whole tsundere shit, I understand being nervous and weird around someone you love and deny it in front of othersbut acting all angry about is something a child would do rather than a older person
>>572992974>exactly as Ian Flynn, one of the writers in the games, told.Flynn is known to misinterpret information.I wouldn't be shocked to learn it was just talking about Percival in BK.
*eats burger*
>Shadow is Knuckles 2.0. only better>Shadow is more masculine and powerful than Sonic>He marries princess Sally and becomes king and has 3 kidsI never imagined Penders being a Shadowfag
Why is soa removing Maria from shadow?
>>572993012He obviously just means they didnt do it enough based on the results.
What's the cutest Tails ship?
>>572993012Also, some Japanese merch like the 1947 keychains or whatever those were>As the namesake for Sonic! Software PlanningThis one is really weird to me, I thought the name was a coincidence
>>572993442They aren't. she wasn't relevant enough to be included in the bio
>>572993325Tsunderes as a concept are retarded when you think about it. It only makes sense if the character is ten years old maximum. It makes sense to be insecure about being attracted to someone but who is so painfully insecure about it that they pretend to hate the person and physically attack them? That is more like a little kid trying to hide the feeling as much as possible. But most tsunderes are teenagers and adults who still act like this. It drives me nuts that people eat this slop up thinking it's cute that a 22 year old woman is pretending to have a seething hatred of the guy she wants to fuck
>>572993184Can't a man just like Blaze because he wants to fuck and pet her? Fucking trannies ruin everything just by existing.
>>572993184nta but can you tell me about these spaces? I’ve only ever noticed something similar with fujos, never this. I guess it does make sense why certain male shipfags insist on Sonic and not a self insert.
>>572993543they literally admitted they did, we just got a ton of maria content
>>572992871its interesting you say that cuz a lot of sonazefags admitted before part of why they ship it is that they saw silver as too twinky or a femboy and wanted someone else as the better alternative for blaze.
>>572993498Cream would be significantly taller than Tails. Most women stop growing at 14-15, meaning Cream would be taller than Tails for a long time while he plays catch up.
>>572993325>>572993546>Japs inserting childlike traits onto older characters Say it ain’t so!
>>572993307>>572993457Oh yeah SPEC!I think Yamaguchi said something like that in an interview but I might have misinterpreted >>572993531I mean Sonic's silhouette is right there on the logo lolInterestingly they never worked on Sonic
>>572993546>drives me nuts that people eat this slop up thinking it's cute that a 22 year old woman is pretending to have a seething hatred of the guy she wants to fuckWomen literally do this irl well past their 40's even. Go watch female oriented tiktoks for like 5 minutes and you'll find a girl talking about how she hates a man because he's taken and she wants to fuck him. Women are fucking insane.
>>572993785>I mean Sonic's silhouette is right there on the logo lolOh, I see. That makes it even weirder
>>572993442Contrary to popular belief, Shadow did in fact move on.
the biggest reason surge gets slammed with the tsundere trope is because she literally can't hurt sonic and that's how most tsundere violence plays out
Nobody told me he made an update, neat.https://youtu.be/Gtltq7kVA4U
>>572992938wonder who they'll add if they add characters at all
>>572994090>Le Soon™?
>>572993618I'd rather not. Ive put that shit behind me.>>572993717Yes they need someone they see as higher status and more of a chad or it doesnt work for them.
>>572989030This is wha the people defending it look like
>>572993983It's not that weird, the company was co-founded by Sega themselves. And then they got merged into Camelot who went on to make Mario games lol
>>572994029No he didn't lol
>>572994164imagine
>>572994194>username on the second comment wow i wonder why this person is okay with mischaracterization
>>572994294See? It keep getting weirder and weirder! lol
>>572994029Katie/Shadougeschizo, you hate Shadow.
>>572994184interesting, how many of the sonazefap percentage are into gay/trans shit vs just gooning to blaze? would you say. this theory is new to me.
>>572994049No, she gets slammed with it because a lot of guys for some reason specifically like girls that hate them or treat them like shit. Its like some weird mommy complex opener something where they thibk they can have their mom like them if someone that hates them secretly likes them because their moms always told them they loved them even though she yelled at them and treated them like ass growing up.
>>572994164perhaps. Mighty "classic" is already in and to make that specific distinction in the game makes me wonder if they'll add Might "modern" in a some point. Than again, the classic label could just as easily be a a brand distinction
>>572993764Howxu has a very wholesome and cute fap comic between tall Cream and short Tails.
>>572993717We had a sonazefag pretty much say they want her to be fucked by a more “masculine male” a while back kek
>>572994029delulu
>>572994374:P
>>572994372They think it's "giving Amy's character depth outside of her loving Sonic"
>>572994340He did twice now.>>572994421Not your beoogiewoman, also Shadouge is shit. They arent even friends.Shadamy is shit too.
>>572994636Except he mentions maria post-gens moron
Yeah!
>>572994451I can't say for sure. I just see the pattern based on my time in the spaces.
>>572994645>Amy being turned into a dykeDo they ever do anything else?
>>572994645Who are these people and when were these posts made?
>>572994521a lot of sonaze/blazefags project their own gayshit onto silver desu, seen one twitterfag try it on amy by insisting her narrower drawn hips in comicslop means she's trans like.
>>572994475>Than again, the classic label could just as easily be a a brand distinctionI'm almost certain it is, given how they treat it as a ghetto and the only "proof" that characters like him and Trip exist in modern is a minor mention in Tailstube (which isn't binding).
>>572994701When?
>shadariafags still on damage controlfind another ship to self-insert with
>sonazefags are incels who want to be dommd>silvazefags are femcels who want to domguys. did we find the perfect pair?
Is there anything good about Current Amy?
>>572994645Amy already wasn't a damsel in distress.
Tails' tails!
>>572994792thats the vp of soa
Post MORE Tails!
>>572995060Are very fluffy
>>572994920ok katie
>>572994993She dates Shadow and will birth Silver. the ultimate hetero fantasy without any gay shit
>>572994960what about male silvazefags? cis female sonazefag is rare but silvaze since its a bit normie has decent amount of male fanbase too, i couldn't really stereotype them as anything though besides casuals.
>>572995206Current Amy is a lesbian so no.
>>572995161We're working on it>>572995178Indeed
>>572995062>it's a fucking JewMy fatigue has fatigue.
>>572995204new boogieman that lives rent free in your head I assume?
>>572993108Sally only matters to Satam and Archie since that universe was build around her as the main character with Sonic needing to be changed from a free spirited adventurer who goes wherever he wants into a loyal soldier just to accommodate the setting and Sally's existence Sally doesn't matter to the nature of the main series where it's about fun and breezy episodic adventures with Sonic and friends
>>572995062He can take his female empowerment back to Israel. I hate, hate SOA
>>572995161Right on it!
Call me a tabananafag or whatever you call it but if there’s a girl I’m into, and she ain’t into me, it ain’t gonna happen. I notice the cuckoldry and faggotry in this fanbase and I gotta say I can’t relate. The simple truth is if ain’t meant to be then it ain’t meant to be. I have no problem saying “I don’t love you.” Maybe that’s what’s really wrong with this fanbase, being unable to have a backbone—especially tailsfags.
>>572993108Sitting through this video was a headache. One of his suggestsions was to canonize Sally as Sonic's former girlfriend? So he is just an archiefag who has no idea how game Sonic acts
the true canon
>>572995284soa donates to israel lol
>>572994960>sonazefags are incels who want to be dommdYes>silvazefags are femcels who want to domSoftdom/mommy yes.
>>572995693Who doesn't donate to Israel? Useless fucking parasite of a country that does nothing but fuck everything up for the rest of the planet.
>>572995747>>572995224i guess its just softdom again but they self insert into silver vs fem silvazefags and supposedly trans/gay sonazefags self inserting into blaze
>>572995693opposing sonamy and shadria is pro israel
>>572995693Fire him and fire everyone else at SOA who's responsible for what's happening to Amy
>>572995693I did say 2020s sonic is a joint project between the mafia and israel. we got jewish comics and jewish movies and now jewish games. i don't give a crap about amy's crush to hell with it but i am sick of lesbian lgtv steven trannyverse garbage slop infecting my shitty serious about a shitty blue rat with zoomies. i demand tkd right now
>>572995375katie...
>>572994645People cant argue they arent pozzing the character now
>>572995941This shit is so confusing maybe /sthg/ would be better off having a place to hook up.
>>572994645>>572995693So we have confirmation Sega of America is ruining Amy's love for sonic and shadow's love for maria and also donating to israeli politician.If you support """""moving on"""""" you are jewish
Anyone who tries to defend changing a character'd personality from the games is my enemy. All Satam faggots and Sonic X faggots could die and I would live happily because they are actively against joy
>>572996264we should change cubot's personality to make him even more retarded, am i your enemy?
I'd only be fine with Amy moving on if she moved on to Knuckles__________ Fuck Sonic, he had a billion chances.Knuckles needs something other than a big fucking rock.
>>572996156we need one of these gag pics depicting multiple sthg anon admitting to having sex with their cousins while also wondering why the general is so retarded
>>572996202I support moving on but not to the gay side. still fuck israel. ain't gonna give shitga anymore shekels if that means they will spend it on those genocidal maniacs and promoting fagslop
Chris Thorndyke cousin fucking joke led to someone admitting he actually fucked his cousin. In fact two people at least.
>>572996575Fuck off Shadamyjew
>>572996575The only reason I would support Amy moving on is because there is literally nowhere for her to go with Sonic. He is perpetually a dicksucking nigger. He is on a constant never ending quest to find milk.
>>572996575you hate shadow and amy
>>572994868The whole classic/modern shit is so autistic I swear, I don't know what kind of rules they follow but it's just pisses me off how they keep several classic characters locked despite there not being any good reason as to why they can't show up in modern beyond "muh branding" shit
>>572996625What was the joke? I missed it and only saw the later conversations
>>572996625>Chris Thorndyke cousin fucking joke led to someone lying about fucking his cousin. In fact two people at least.wow, really? no way.
I'm starting to hate Shadamyfags, not going to lie.
>>572996629I am not jewish. i am also the most heterosexual anon itt>>572996696bro's not interested. doesn't mean he's all these things>>572996706no, i hate (you)
>>572996696shadow really isnt any better
>>572994868Amy mentions Trip in CW right?
>>572996472>post that image while begging and crying on your knees for Knuckles to get Sonic's sloppy seconds.Wild
>>572996739Who gives a fuck? There aren't any classic characters worth giving a fuck about that don't have a modern incarnation. They're about as relevant as Sally.
>oof, it's time for my hourly cry session over Ma-ri-ah, the one and only thing I am allowed to do that's "in-character"
>>572997043>>572997043>>572997043>>572997043
>>572996853Then Amy should move on for her own damned good, because Sonic is only interested in being a nigger. He literally runs around finding shit to fuck up and avoiding commitment. He's also homeless and unemployed. Sonic is black.>>572996875Who gives a fuck about Shadow? I'm just saying Amy has no chance in hell with Sonic. She wouldn't have any chance in hell with Shadow either, but that's because his heart is already taken. Sonic just wants to go be a nigger. He has no excuse.
>>5729966961. That's not even true. You just have no imagination.2. She doesn't NEED to go anywhere woth him. The point was never to set up a "ship".Amy loves Sonic because its HER character trait, that acts as HER thematic and motivational axis.Characters loving another character isnt just "ship set up".God i hate shipculture, I swear.
>>572996739>despite there not being any good reasonThose characters have more opportunity to be used and make sense in Classic than modern.That is reason enoughWanting everything in Modern is retarded.We have enough characters as is that barely see use. >but muh Reboo-Shut up man.... im tired.
>>572993335The fuckers micromanage Sonic blushing, they rearrange expressions, Blaze being into him with is not out of character.Imagine if it was Rouge instead? Rouge holding hands with him, blushing or looking deeply into his eyes, or casually buying dresses and going in vacations with him.Rouge can be strongly implied to fuck Lex Luthor (LMFAO), but romantic undertones with Sonic outside of joking flirting are not her area, but they are Blaze's.Characters do what SEGA allows them to do, if they wouldn't do it, SEGA would veto it, that's what I am trying to say.
>>572996758Chris is a kid Eggman and Helen looks exactly like Maria
>>572997660You're coping
>>572997660she also blushes to silver in the sonic channel story they wrote.the difference is that blaze is specifically a shy and blushy character, her blushing doesn't indicate romantic interest, maybe they did intend this to be shipbait as independent artist or writers but i don't think sega itself allowed it because of a supposed crush. bark also blushes at amy in idw, amy blushes at blaze in some manga comic. blush without context doesn't indicate romance. its just ooc for sonic to blush even in non romantic contexts.
>>572970979>Webber really lucked out that he could exploit some random internet artist into doing something crazy like the Mania intro and everything somehow worked out for everyone involved.Worked for Katawa Shoujo.
>>572985352How would Iizuka feel about this. I thought Shadow was his baby?
>>572994993She'll always be cute. They can strip everything, but not her mascot appeal.
