Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things America!/sthg/ #9458 Hot Milf's Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>572956081
This franchise is doomed, but we already knew that. Who wants to fuck?
>>572997127Not Sonic!
Shadow loves Maria.Shadow will always love Maria.Maria is what drives Shadow to be good.
>>572996739>I don't know what kind of rules they follow but it's just pisses me offAccording to Mauro Foncesa (one of the comic writers), Sega is extremely anal about holding people to the brand guidelines at the time of that media's creation (for example, if they said "no humans" during 2018 due to 06 PTSD, and they mercurially decide they during 2024 that they're okay allowing humans in media again, you're not allowed to use them just because the manga or Chaotix Casefiles did).
>>572997395>whoa-ho! Is that a female that would literally do anything for me? Way past uncool!
Sega of America destroy everything they touch.
>>572996908>Trip>SticksAmy's been mentioning a lot of dead characters as of recently. Is she starting to exhibit schizophrenia?
cnc will save us from the jewish
>>572997502This kinda makes it hard to say IDW is canon then though.
>>572997680The Jew is in support of these characters moving on. Shadamyjew.
>>572997127I'm gonna stick around this series just to see how bad things are gonna get and the reactions to it. I don't think/sthg/ knows just how cringe and self-destructive woke slop is to a franchise. Also, once shit gets pozzed, it doesn't get un-pozzed, so you're gonna be stuck with it for good.
>>572997494
>>572997680Amy loves Sonic.Shadow loves Maria.
>>572997740I unfortunately lost the ability to say that when they started bleeding into the games with Crossworld
>>572997750the jews want stronk independent princess peach. i want a trad hetero fantasy with power levels
>>572997269Denial of this means you hate Shadow.
>>572997750It's neither. The Jews don't want Amy to show love at all. She would move on to being a girl boss, not to Shadow. Chances are they'd have Shadow stand in the background and say something positive about Amy while she makes Sonic look bad.
What would a three-way chaos control do?
Someone is gonna be a lesbian in the games. It's happening whether you want it to or not.
>>572997949It's a fucking teleport or time manipulation. Three people doing it is just three people doing it.
>>572997836As DLC characters under the guest tab.
>>572997502>(or example, if they said "no humans" during 2018 due to 06 PTSD, and they mercurially decide they during 2024 that they're okay allowing humans in media again, you're not allowed to use them just because the manga or Chaotix Casefiles didThat WOULD explain why they replaced all human characters in Soleanna during the DC crossover. Though your pic has Mauro also imply it's an IDW editorial mandate that makes them not want humans.
>>572997774ftfy
>Blue BLUR>BLUR>Not LIGHTNINGare people really this retarded and gonna defend this inconsistency
>>572997768So who would you fuck, preference-wise?
>>572997880Sonamy and Shadria already fit that and they're IC. Shadamy has no basis.
>>572998225what do you think a blur is made of, anon?
>>572997494>>572997774I always wanted Silver and Blaze to have their own Power characterI like Knuckles and Omega a lot so I would instantly love whatever character they made for them
>>572998087The DC crossover doesn't have the no humans mandate. That mandate was created for Forces and repealed in 2022. It's part of the IDW agreement which is why it's stuck that way in IDW.
Iizuka lives in California. Retarded Jap decided to settle straight into the dystopic hornet's nest. He can't disagree to what they're doing even if he wanted to.
>>572998051Boring, i'd imagine an explosion that only destroys the bad guys, something something infinity stones type of ending
>>572998279>I will keep my promise to Maria and (you) BABYYYY
No matter how I try to look at it, I can't see Westfagging as anything other than wanting the original idea to be destroyed. That's what they mean when they say they want a character to "move on" or "develop", right? Especially if it frees them up for romance. They want Knuckles to stop being a guardian, they want Tails to stop acting like a sidekick or a kid, they want Amy to stop waiting for Sonic to reciprocate, they want Shadow to stop being a traumatized lone wolf. How else am I supposed to interpret that? Nobody who loves these characters would demand they stop being the character, would they?
>>572998423I'm sure Duofag is happy about the Shadally confirmation
>>5729966961. That's not even true. You just have no imagination.Upgrade the dynamic to more explicitly rivalry. Heroes played with this as did Olympics where Amy tries to 1 up sonic to impress him.2. She doesn't NEED to go anywhere woth him. The point was never to set up a "ship".Amy loves Sonic because its HER character trait, that acts as HER thematic and motivational axis.Characters loving another character isnt just "ship set up".God i hate shipculture, I swear.
>>572998357>The DC crossover doesn't have the no humans mandate.NTA, but does it even have any human characters that aren't obviously from DC?
>>572998425That's just a chaos blast.
Douge
Sonurge. Shadally
>>572998528notice how maria comes first
>>572998624Yes. and? I already told you last thread shadamy is shadria: after story
>>572998582The Unleashed hotdog salesman appears . Regardless this is already explained in that Tyson Hesse video. It's just a product of two worlds which has been retconned
>>572998576What? So she loves him platonically? I don't give a fuck about shipping. I just don't believe in wasting time. If the road you're on will never go anywhere, then you shouldn't take it.
>>572998605OOC
>>572998586Well maybe they all suck at chaos control together that its the only thing they can manage
>>572998531>They want Knuckles to stop being a guardianIn fairness to the westfags on that one, 2000s japs did that first.
>>572998357DC crossover does have Two Worlds though, and most of the humans are DC humans.
>>572998582There are random incidental humans in Sonic's world which the comic repeatedly calls earth. IDW isn't allowed to call the planet Earth or even use that word due to the two world rule. Using the name Earth means the DC comic isn't under the same rules
>>572998348Silver already covers power speed and flying all on his own, a cheer leader would literally be enough to be with him to become an entire team.
>>572998605Rouge loves Knuckles.
>>572998307definitely not lightninglightning is as sharp as it can be
>>572997740Why, the games use IDW-like blobians too.
>>572999025
>>572999062what is this screenshot
>>572999023>Silver >powerThrowing rocks with your mind doesn't count. The second he's not using his ability Sonic owns his ass.
Blobians are pointless as background characters unless they have world building involved like Archie or Satam
>>572999062is it compatible with the human x blobian diagram?someone post it now
>>572999025Rouge loves my Knuckles on her face. Fucking whore.
>>572999197I hate the argument that they look better too. Even when they look good it's just a wasted character design now. What is the point of designing a bunch of protagonist looking characters who cannot have names or histories?
>>572999142Its from Crossworlds
>>572998760How is it a waste of time? She chases after him and joins on his adventures because its what she wants. It isn't and doesnt have to be about "getting a relationship". Its about love aspect motivation and letting it be your power.>>572998760>If the road you're on will never go anywhere, then you shouldn't take it.This is consooooomer mindset. The point isnt about a destination. It never was. Its about getting to enjoy our time with this world and characters and the themes and stories and experiences that come from the eternal now.
>>572999197Anthro background OCs should have been banned when ABT blatantly tried to include his Blaze father OC
>>572998348The question is would a Power counter rival to Silver be a blobian or robot or something else?
>>572999148>The second someone doesn't do anything Sonic would beat them!Very impressive, Silver also does have physical strength, he's very resilient and sturdy when it comes to taking damage
Sonic clearly doesn't have super speed perception like Movienic
>>572998531They don't actually care about the characters. They just want the fleeting satisfaction of the characters being collapsed and "resolved" so they can leave and move on to something else.Toby was right.Agent Smith in thr Matrix was right.Westoids are a virus.
>>572999148>The second he's not using his ability Sonic owns his ass.What does this have to with power? pretty sure if Sonic doesn't run for a second, Silver would've killed his ass, does that mean Sonic is weak now?
>>572999589>blatantly tried to include his Blaze father OChe was an antat most
Rosemary teaching Tails how to properly pleasure his future wife.
>>572998949So they can use humans but are choosing not to in order to pretend it is connected to IDW?
>>572956659>>572956928>>572958281>>572959097>>572960082I just got back from celebrating 4th of July by lighting fireworks in the pouring freezing rain, knowing that when I got back, I would at least be able to enjoy the sight of some new art of Bump's boob growing rapidly in the bath as she panics from confusion.But no one did that, you fucking art fags are so stuck up and too good to draw anything for the thread. That one ai fag was right and the artist here are only here to draw what they want and never actually interact with the thread. Go back to twitter you fucking retards. ARE YOU TOO GOOD TO DRAW BUMP'S BUMPS?Fucking pull the booru from the OP, we don't need a booru, why are we cataloging their gay shit? This isn't some Discord group, we don't need a fucking scrap book of memories. It's a fucking thread where we talk about the same 3 topics around Sonic OVER AND OVER AGAIN.SORRY, I just wanted something different that most of us could enjoy. Just not worth acknowledging? Fine.Kill yourself.
I wonder who got the gets?>>573000000
>>572999971it isn't even the same guy, he doesn't have a mullet the comic character hashe wears no gold and he has black legwear
>>572999971No excuses. Anthro OCs are headcanon bait. The only bad side to human background OCs is that Evan will draw trannies
>>572999601It would be me
>>573000168Blame Duofag for chasing off all the drawfags.
>>573000220it isn't the same character you mongloid >>573000218
>>572999062Because IDW is set in the "post forces" setting. It still is even now. I believe SoA is presenting it as canon in western media for the sake of branding as opposed to Sonic Team or Iizuka meaningfully treating it as part of their vision.>tangled is mentioned in Frontiers.Sure there is probably a game!version of Tangle.
>>573000218Wasn't that a fucking comm?
>>573000278Our drawfags don’t draw content for the general
human ocs are a signifier that you're getting a japanese style shonen storyanthro ocs are a signifier that you're getting a western story with feelings and therapy circles there is no true correlation between why this is but that's just how it is
>>573000168Maybe the reason nobody wanted to do that because OCs got nothing to do with Sonic.Also you were rude about it. Use AI instead.
>>573000560IDW is almost 10 years old.
Sonic series has some of the worst most confusing branding and mandates i've ever seen in a franchiseName a series worse than Sonic
>>572998949>There are random incidental humans in Sonic's world...Are there? Most humans are specifically found in DC locations, or are DC humans in Sonic locations.
>>572999578It's non-retarded mindset. Would you chase a woman that will never love you? Then why should Amy chase a man?
>>572998582The gun soldiers who raided the ark in Shadow's story to Batman
>>573000883sonic does love amy canonically
>>572999606Still accurate anon. Silver's power is kinda dumb, but the second he has to fight Sonic without relying on it he loses.
>>573000947date your waifu yourself, self inserter
>>573000637OCs are not Sonic
>>573000947But he doesn't love her romantically. He isn't even capable of it. Amy should find a nice normal guy. Not someone in love with the horizon or ghosts.
>>573001117IDW is Sonic
>>573001173yes he does
>>573001203No, he doesn't.
>>572997494>>572998348add ariem to sol knuckles, she's the most likely power type candidate.
Amy will never fuck Shadow.
>>573001184I said OCs, not IDW.And neither is IDW.
>>573000663Pac-man
I'm so happy Krack has to finally stop pretending she likes this franchise and is just obsessed with Shadow. Love it when retarded foids are forced to drop their mask.
>>573000537I don't mind some few blobians in mostly human populated areas, like 70/30I like animal characters being few and rare in the series, makes them more specialI hate seeing them everywhere, it just points how generic and samey they all look with all of them having the same big eyed noodle stick bodies
>>573001310cope harder
>>573001317No shit. Shadow loves Maria. He doesn't love Sonic's shitty fangirl.
>>573001354IDW is the most popular Sonic product in the last 10 years. They're inserting it into everything because of how much everyone loves all the characters.
>>573001383I don't blame her. Shadow has gotten better content than Sonic lately.
>>573001427I don't understand what I'm coping. I'm just stating that Sonic will never go anywhere romantically with Amy. And I'm correct.
>>573001383Same, Shitdow and his ships is all she likes talking about
>>573001483But Bump and Sage are from readit, not IDW
>>573001383what
>>573001427I love that people who had nothing to do with the conception of Sonic are now on Twitter 24/7 spewing corrections and facts so their can be no misconception of any kind of nuance because really they just want to make sure everyone is acting in accordance with their beliefs on the property that isn't there's
Can Sega please stop hiring autists, that would be great
>>573001521No he hasn't.
>Krack out of nowhere
>>573000883>Would you chase a woman that will never love you?I did! It was fun! I wouldn't take those moments back ever, it broke me out of my comfort zone and got me to see the world more and live a little.Also we did drugs.>never lovedShe liked me but wasn't interested in a relationship.
>>573000507Duo’s the one autistic about OCs
Okay, but like, why was Lex fat in the first crossover and then skinny in the next, if Metal Legion is a direct sequel? Like what happened??And no, I wont accept "it's just an artstyle ,its not a canon change" or "because the staff didn't want to remake the old Lex model, don't worry about it" or whatever because these were done by the same artist.
>>573000858*stick the ice cream at her face and throws her at the ocean*"You're now narwhal"
>>573001806Honestly anon, that's just sad.
>>573001873Apparently that was his design in the comics at the time. I don’t read DC comics often so I don’t know if it’s true.
>>573001806Honestly anon, that's just based.
>>573001873It happens
>>573000507anons who say this never step up to make the content either despite whining how important it is
>>>572998340I'd argue Blaze having a crush on Sonic is about one of the most strongly supported "shipping" lore tidbits in the series.Ian, one of the official writers of the games, comics and animated series, telling so explicitly, makes it one of the most "no shit Sherlock" official trivias yet, how shit that apparent can even be controversial is beyond me.
>>573001383I'll take the bait this time. Krack is the best possible litmus test for Shadow's character.Best. Possible. She is a person who's done all the research and is ready and willing to help those who want to know more about Shadow. She invites other people to get on her level with the character, as difficult as that may be. If I were to write Shadow and my portrayal of him broke her expectations then I failed to write Shadow the Hedgehog. The Shadow who exists to Krack is the one and only Ultimate Life Form.You warned of a deranged villain and there is none. I can't claim to know a fraction of what she does about the character. It's truly impressive. Krack is the internet's #1 expert on Shadow the Hedgehog. That is a fact. She did this, that, and the other thing? I don't care and I never will.
>>573001027You just handicap him, Sonic without his speed would be as strong as a teenager, you must understand these characters and their powers are the same thing.
>>573001873>why was Lex fat in the first crossover and then skinny in the next,He used filthy acts at a reasonable price as turbo diet trick.
>>573001756I AM KRACK MASTER!
>>573001873He was full of cum. Rouge drained him dry.
>>573002031True Blaze is very inspired by both Amy and Sally, it's only natural that she joins the harem, not to mention her only real relationship is with Sonic being his alternate version
>>573001427she is sending that person away politely.>there's a plenty of fan content to provide itthat's akin to that sonic totem when you score "just go jerk off".and you took it as a proof to shipping. i am sorry anon but it's you who's huffing the cope pack
>>573002083https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLKYOSiW7U4
>>573002037Oh fuck off krack
>>573002083>hyped up as being super scary lost media, turns out it was pretty underwhelming
>>573002216>sonic totemIs it time?
>>573002191>tfw a guy who is completely incapable of romance and not running away like a nigger with a kid has a harem
>>573002241I'm saying it because I enjoy saying it. Krack is based.
>>573001916How do you figure?>>573001962Thanks! There was no animosity or anything. We were both open about where we stood. Life's too short to worry about this or that. Sometimes you just gotta do things and make memories!
>>573002037Scribbles truthnuke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2T1l_r8a18
>>573002385Well technically he never ran away from Blaze and he hold her hand all the time very gently and he's always very respectful towards her, he's more interested in her than any other character
>>573002740why did everyone start drawing silver in brown capes for a few months last year
>>573002093Hate when artists draw Rouge like this.
>>573002814It doesn't matter. Sonic could never have any real responsibilities. It wouldn't work.
>>573001976>He just took off his coat>>573002074>>573002093It's a 3 month timeskip and he had training, don't worry about the inconsistency.>>573001954It's how Lex was always supposed to be, the original design was due to technical limitations.lol
>>573002814True but she is also has her own mini genesis wave to keep them at a safe distance to not fuck up lore and status quo and shit.
>>573002872We got bored of having nothing so we decided to make something ourselves
>>573002814Imagine having less dignity and standards that Patrick fucking Star. Sonazefags everyone.https://youtu.be/48939PFQ-b8
>>573002872Because they all played Megaman Zero 2 and thought the first stage and its theme were sick.
>>573002872I think there was some Sage and Silver dialog in Crossworlds that fueled a bunch of fanfic ideas for a post apocalyptic Silver game or something like that.
>>573002385post more void emis
>>573003235
hooked on krack
>>573002954Blaze would leave her responsibilities for him if we work off of examples: "vacations, parties, Sonic saving her world multiple times,...">>573002982That 'mini genesis wave' is very inconsistent, she's already in Sonic world multiple times and now she's staying there and nothing is happening.
krack colaine
>>573003172I hate the idea of Sage being alive and a villain in Silver's time. It basically means Sonic and friends lost.>>573003520>Blaze sacrificing her entire queenship for Sonic's blue assLOL
>>573003552>>573003501>>573003405thank u
>>573003028Sonic characters are so intimacy starved that the concept of a romantic handshake doesn't even sounds THAT weird all things considered
>>573003586>It basically means Sonic and friends lost.I hate all of you for being so pessimistic, what if Sonic and friends just got old and died and after 100 years Sage decided just to take over?
>>573003586>It basically means Sonic and friends lost.That's a weird way to look at it. The present day cast aren't the freedom fighters constantly fighting Eggman back or whatever.
>>573003740Then Sonic should have thrown a huge hissy fit while Shadow or Knuckles killed Sage. Silver should have brand new villains, not the exact same ones.
Doe boobies.
>>573003724Nice headcanon. And by nice I mean shit.
>>573003898Never drawn because cultists
>>573003586>Sonic and his fags couldn't beat super AI SageI'm not seeing any issues?
>>573004074Why would she age? She's an ai.
>>573002031So we like listening to Ian when it's not bastardizing characters.
>>573001701>"Sonic Team's official stance">from someone who actually works at Sega and on the property and has to abide by ST's mandates>HERP DERP THEY'RE JUST MAKING SHIT UPOkay.
>>573004120rule of cool
>>573003841Nah that's lame, having the AI, the IMMORTAL EVIL AI be a future villain is much more interesting than (oh let's create a futuristic villain) plus it gives Sage more story and direction
>>573003968There is this guy who has been running away from women all these years, and this girl who probably never seen a male of her age before.That handshake was the lewdest and kinkiest thing they ever did in the entire lives at that point.
>>573001461Amy's not shitty.
>>573004291cope
>>572997043>#9458You were supposed to fix it, OP! We are all disappointed now.
Amy has never held hands with Sonic and never will
>>573004375I'm not the one rejecting an official source because it doesn't align with my headcanon.
>>572998608Silvamy?
>>573004120Ai does age anon, it learns, adapts and evolves, so the smarter she is the more she matures
>>573004457>official
>>573004497Yes, the woman who works for Sega on the Sonic series is an official source, citing Sonic Team's official stance. Weird how that works.
>>573004484Booba
>>573003157What the fuck are you talking about?
>>573004567Anon, I think you're over estimating the trump card you're holding there. Look on the backside, the ace is scribbled in with crayon.
>>573004323Amy literally glomped him when they first met.
I don't care much about Sonamy but the idea of Amy falling out of love with Sonic sounds so weird to me. Like I can't imagine their first meeting being just the set up for her to move on.
>>573004750Boring
>still takes the bait
>>573002037I wouldn't call myself the Goddess of Shadow, but I do know a lot about him. But over the past few years I've started wishing I knew less. All this knowledge makes it next to impossible to enjoy conversations or fan content about him, because so much of it is based on misunderstandings and inaccuracies. When I point this out, I'm labeled as rude, aggressive, or a gatekeeper no matter how I try to word it. The same kind of non-fans have now worked their way into SoA and are trying to sabotage his character from the inside, because who Shadow is bothers them. Just look at the posts here. I'll have people talk about killing or raping me over this. They accuse innocent fans who know the character of being me. Sometimes I genuinely wish I knew nothing at all. At least then I could still enjoy what others create and say about him without constantly seeing how far off so much of it is.
>>573004743She glomps the shit out of him even now. She never stopped.
>>572997768Considering how long it's been since Spidey sold his marriage to Mephisto and how it still remains intact I'm inclined to agree. Wonder just how much worse it can get. Fuck the woke.
>>573004871stop replying then
Bump's bumps
>>573004805Amy was never in love with Sonic she's an independent trans woman watch the movies you larper
>>573004805that's because you are autistic
Does someone have that Rouge crying emoji image?
>>573004805People who say it would be character development are just working their way backwards. Everything about her love for Sonic up to this point has had this weird fate/fairytale dimension to it and acted as the thing that helps her grow as a person.To have her drop it would be to say everything prior was wrong and a mistake.
>>573005018A horrifying vision of the future.
>>573004805That's because JP treats the characters as stagnant like Mario characters so they're all still their Adventure era selves. Amy will always revolve around Sonic.
>>573004980She hasn't done it since OG generations, if even that.>Frontiers.Wasn't really a glomp the way she used to do it.
Krack be like:>I'm going to spend the most socially developmental years of my life shitposting about a franchise I barely like because I get horny over a cartoon and then cry and act like the victim when people rightfully see me as annoying, rude, disruptive and outright hateful because I have based my entire personality off of shitposting on 4chan and obsessing about one character. Please feel bad for me, I'm so misunderstood. :'(
>>573005290Do you think posts like this are any better
>>573004420I don't think Blaze has hugged him, though.
>>573004924Me but with Amy. Though I wouldn't say I wish I knew less, because the actual Amy is a great character while the misunderstood one is a caricature that everyone insists is bad.So for me its the opposite problem. Doomed to feeling obligated to try and get people to see who the character actually is and was to see the great character I see.
>>573005290At least she's talking about a Sonic character unlike your shitpost
>>573003586Every silver timeline where he comes from the future is one where sonic and co lose
>>573005290The bitch loves compiling screenshots of everything everyone says then does the pikachu face when she’s banned from an official server for harassment
>>573005290>>573005445Give it a rest shipper
>>573005173Loathe as I am to admit it, IDW is canon and ST fortunately lets her go ballistic there.
>>573005225Kino...
>>573005445SOMETHING I SAID IS BEING SCREENSHOTTED I'M BEING HARASSED AIIIEIEEEEE
>>573005401Weaklings
>>573005225
>>573005609ooo, nice!
It's hilarious that holding hands with some cat is the most romantic thing Sonic has ever done in the same series where Rouge is allowed to get railed by Lex Luthor
>>573005376Yo us. I replayed Forces yesterday because I hate myself and it's really sad that despite already falling far from who she was prior to the Pontaff era, two guys who didn't really know anything about the series before working on it still managed to handle her better than she's being handled now. There was a spark of her in there when she talked about how dreamy it was for there to be two Sonics. We obviously had her excitable nature in the (now altered) scenes in Generations. It's gotten so much worse over time and I feel like I'm fighting an encroaching fire with a spray bottle trying to get people to understand.
>>573005609Where>>573005290Can you please talk about Sonic the Hedgehog
>>573005141>stagnantWeird choice of words.
>>573005018If Moviemy was a troon then Marza wouldn't have stepped in to make her look feminine and cuter.Moviemy will be the balance she should be.
>>573005571If you’re doing that for the sole reason of slander then yes
>>573005723Static then. Basically unchanging.
>>573005760I'm so glad SoJ (no way SoA did that) still cares. They're her last line of defense, but they're mostly just defending their home turf.
>>573005863banning someone for no reason because they screenshotted someone is pretty retarded
getting upset over cartoons in your late 20s is justwowlol
>>573005679Forces wasn't written by Pontac and Graff. It was written by Makoto Goya first, and the English script didn't have as much freedom as Colors or Lost World. That's why Amy is IC.
>>573005290>about a franchise I barely likeShe knows more about this series than 95% of the faggots here. Not a high bar, granted, but still.
>HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG *shart*>MY SHIP CANON>HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN *farts*
>>573005643>westMeanwhile the most romantic thing in JP Sonic was the ending of episode 52 in SonicX using the theme song Natsu No Hi.
>>573006098knowing useless irrelevant information isn't cool
Since we have proof that the vice president of Sega of America (Ivo Gerscovich) is in on the agenda of erasing Amy's love, should we start sending complaint forms to Sega of America instead or is it better to keep sending them to Sega of America?
>>573005760>Moviemy>feminine>cuteAnon...
The image that mindbroke Shadariafags
>>573002814He’s held Tails’ hand before lol. The most romantic undertones he’s had were towards Elise and he dropped by the end because Elise knew it wouldn’t work
>>573006076Shh. Let me give them one of their three glazings a year.
>>573006206neither party actually cares
I’m horny for hedgehogs
>>573006194It is to me, though I also don't consider any knowledge useless
>>573006194Real "I'm a fan if I watch it on YouTube" energy. If you don't care what the canon sources say, you don't like the series.
>>573004592You living organisms are very infatuated with my blobs of Temp-folders (fat), i shall use that advantage against you
>>573005973The only SoA I do trust with her exclusively are Evan and Hesse despite Evan's glaring flaws with everything else. I may also trust Casey and Miller.
>>573006341>though I also don't consider any knowledge uselessthat's a problem
>>573006330Sally...
>>573006323Quit trying to demoralize
This place is like the Sonic franchise
>>573006214She's very cute. Capability doesn't rob of cuteness.
>>573006362if you like the series in its current state why would any of that old shit be relevantyou are trying to gatekeep a wide open border
>>573006206If you send anything to SoA in the first place, they'll investigate themselves and find no evidence of wrongdoing. If you send it to SoJ, they're still probably not going to do anything, but you should have already been doing that because no one else is going to tell SoA to fix it.>>573006419I'm tentatively giving a pass to both Evan and Tyson, because I expect that the social climate could flip their position at any time knowing both of them and what they've said in the past. All I can do is hope for the best.
>>573005679>There was a spark of her in there when she talked about how dreamy it was for there to be two SonicsThey even have her with fortune thing with her saying she still dreams sonic is with us and then we find out he is in fact alive!The idea of her being the communications person sounds weird at first, but only because she isn't allowed to be herself. In practice, it would have and should have been because she helps raise everyone's spirits since she is a people person and the mood-lifter.But no, they got her on SSRIs now. Amy can't be Amy.
i dislike whenever robotnik is added to sage's name. Maria and Gerald are rarely called Robtnik as is
>>573006330Blaze...
>>573006530you already lost, you've been losing for decades
>>573006223If Sonic was as close and intimate to any female character as he is to Tails anyone who saw it would consider their romantic relationship 100000% factual
>>573006606>you are trying to gatekeep a wide open borderAt least I'm fucking trying. Not doing that is how we got here.
>>573005895They aren't though. They just dont radically change. They stay largely consistent and gain things here or there that arent radically gonna change their core unless otherwise stated.
>>573006732Oooooh so spooky. I'm not going to let up
>>573006118X Sonamy was allowed to go much further than game Sonamy for some unknown reason.
>>572999025The last time knuxouge got "teased" was in 2010.
>>573006640Having played the game when it came out and then again yesterday, I still don't like her in the position they gave her. Any random NPC would have been better there. A lot of the main cast would have, too. Amy would absolutely be out there in the thick of it, both a combatant and humanitarian aid. And there's no way she'd take Sonic's capture or alleged death lying down. I think they made it work for what they were trying to do with the story, but it just never felt right and it still doesn't.
>>573006919so are we just forgetting sonic's dialogue in frontiers
>>573006553Movie Amy does look cute but she still needs to have feminine interests and mannerisms, and she must not be overpowered
>>573006991It’s not hard to forget in game idle dialogue
>>573005376Yeah, I get it. Amy is one of the most misunderstood characters in the cast. It's a shame what they've reduced her to. A hollow shell, because those who never liked her in the first place got their way. Their goal is erasure of love. I like to show people the authentic versions of these characters, especially since some of their core concepts confuse people who aren't familiar with Jap media. But it'll always come across as an attack to those who got attached to a different non-canon version, or people who want the official characterization to be erased for shipping reasons.I'm not going to stop loving him or sharing the truth with those who are genuinely interested. But it can be demoralizing at times. I suppose that's exactly the point of it, though.
>>573007098>in gameIt's unused.
>>573006932It got teased in 2026 Shadougetard
>>573007184it was there in an earlier version before it got nuked out in final horizon. triggered it on my first play through, was never able to trigger it later. it got the sonally treatment heh
You guys care way more about these character than the creators themselves I hope you know.
>>573007184I've heard the dialogue is hard to trigger but not unused
>>5730057601. I FUCKING KNEW they were gonna focus on makong her look and seem "tough and serious". Fucking cringe. Amy should be serious when its time to be for IMPACT. Amy is supposed to be cute! And spunky with tufe and sass but still!But wha boggles my mind is why the hell would you make Amy that way with THIS version of Sonic?I swear to christ, Hesse was supposed to save us.2. Thank goodness SEGA clearly cares, holy christ i don't let anyone tell you they don't.
>>573007383>Thank goodness SEGA clearly cares, holy christ i don't let anyone tell you they don't.Did you just memory hole all of the 2010s or whatYou guys are so easily manipulated
>>573005760>>573007383The design is "balanced" as they said. Also, it's pretty much guaranteed that the writing will use the "tough and serious" personality, just like how Movienic is still characterized as he was in the original version of the first movie before the design change.
I hate everything about IDW
>>573007542>2010sThat's SoA, not SEGA overall>>573007612How is the third screenshot connected to the first two
>>573007612delete jews and establish cnc
>>573007369I can recognize the futility and respect the desire to still care and try when others won't
>>573006919Because Sonic X season 2 was supposed to be the end. Sonic and Amy is an "end game scenario" we won't ever see because the series is evergreen.
>>573007707jew...
>>573007736Fuck Cosmo and Season 3.
>>573007712computer numerical control?
>>573007612>>573007707 (Me)Nvm I see it now sorry
>>573007612There are fucking idiots here who think Movie Amy is going to be a love interest
>>573007560I'm praying that the movie is as predictable as I hope it is, and that the Amy from the end of the 3rd movie is a future Amy, battle-hardened from dealing with Robotnik's takeover of Little Planet in the future, and that the end of the movie results in a timeline correction where Sonic meets a cuter, sweeter Amy from the present closer to game Amy. That's the only way they're going to run with the "tough and serious" angle and not ruin it for everyone.
>>573007719I would if it wasn't over cartoons. You guys should have outgrown this series by now.
>>573007736>>573007810Season 3 really isn't that good. Cosmo isn't much of a character. All she does for 20 episodes is talk about the metarex, then she falls into the Amy rape lake with Tails and has a generic romance tragedy with him.
>>573007369I don't think I care more about them than their creators. I think I care more about them than their current keepers, though, especially in the west.
>>573007363Sonic Team are a bunch of retards for deleting that dialogue since it could've built up for Sonic confessing to Amy that he loves her in the next mainline game and now Sonic Team is going to have to find a way to make Sonic do it without the build up from that deleted dialogue
>>573006983>Amy would absolutely be out there in the thick of it, both a combatant and humanitarian aid. And there's no way she'd take Sonic's capture or alleged death lying down. I think they made it work for what they were trying to do with the story, but it just never felt right and it still doesn't.Oh I absolutely agree. Years back when I came here talking about her writing in thr game i always said "My girl Amy would be out there barking at Eggman to give Sonic back" because she refuses to believe he is gone, and would be out there bashing shit and helping people. She would be in semi-permanent crash out mode telling everyone she helps that Sonic is gonna come back and Eggface is gonna be sorry as heck when he does.But Amy is now forced to be reserved and demure and sad all the time since Lost World, which literally defeats the point if the archetype of her character.
>>573007856>Sonic meets a cuter, sweeter Amy from the present closer to game AmylolThe rest of the post is believable. Maybe have Amy say THE FLAMES OF DISASTER so they can revive the iconic meme while they're at it. Olive Garden Winter Soldier Hot Topic Keanu Reeves with great powers come great Green Hill Zones
>>573008006Sonic is not going to confess to Amy anon, he doesn't like her that way.
>>573007810>>573007947that's the only good season in the whole show outside game adaptations.
>>573008138Name five episodes you like
>>573008123Bad bait
>>573008202How is it bait? This has always been the intent with game Sonic.
>>573008292Sonic does like Amy back, anon. You've been living under a rock if you don't know that by now
>>573008006Ian has writing power and a certain level of freedom, but SEGA vetos what they think it's out of character.I don't even think it's Sonic Team, I think it's fucking SEGA.
>>573008374Bestie, I…
>>573008374>Sonic does like Amy back, anon.As a friend.
>>573007542We jist spent the whole last thread going over how SoA got more power over the brand after 06 after Sonic 4 was well received.
>>573008387Don't forge that in the Japanese version, Amy tells Sonic in a cutscene near the ending, "You haven't seen me as a lovely lady yet" but in the English version, she tells him, "You still have love to share with the world, too". I hate this so much
>>573007856I speculated this but this is too optimistic and giving them to much credit.I image their mindset will be "we bond with the Amy we spent the adventure woth so getting rid of her for a new one doesnt feel right"That was similar logic for why Knuckles isnt on Angel Island at the end of Movie 2.
>>573008428Duo...>>573008508More bad bait
>>573008154>53the setup was very decent>60Shadow's return was epic>63big fight then they all almost get sucked into a black hole>67dark sonic was badass>68shadow the black wind. and he does that super badass thinghonorable mention>73you have no idea how much AMV edge lord kino came out of thisseason 3 is the only good season in that show, the whole show should have been like that.
>>573008154NTA but i like the one where they go to africai love the cruise episodei like sa1 adaptation episode where theyre on the egg carrieri like that episode where sonic gets a microchip stuck in his earand i fucking love the first episode especially when sonic's fucking with the cops and sam speed and his racer goonssonic x rocks
>>573008048And thus I took matters into my own hands.
>>573008006Im convinced at this point you're Duo falseflagging now.
>>573008637I think at least some folks at Sonic Team (creative staff) has a notion for Sonamy and SEGA (brand and IP) has different one that overrides it.
I ate two burgers and a corn on the cob. What did (You) eat on america day?
>>573009021I'm not Duo
>>573009124a reheated oven pizza
>>573008123>forgot to change his file name 7 years later.
I've never understood why Shadamy fans push so hard to make it canon. Same with some other ships. The appeal of the ship lives in the tension of "what if", turning it official would flatten the characters and kill what makes it interesting. That's why I stick to defending the canon. Amy's love for Sonic and Shadow's devotion to Maria. That's what has motivated these two characters to go on all of the adventures that made us love them. It keeps them true to who they are. When I want a Shadamy type story, I just have an AI write a private story of it. That way it stays interesting without ruining the source material.
>>573009124I had two burgers too.I'm a leaf
>>573009384Fuck off krack
>>573009062If that screenshot of the Discord conversation with a Sega of America employee is real, then that means SEGA of America is at fault but that SEGA of Japan is pushing back against it
>>573009384Fuck on krack
>>573008154The first Epsiode is legit so good. Well animated, Sonic is written AND characterized well and the setting is used so well to show off all these facets of Sonic as a character.Sam Speed is awesome and they even use the fact can be introspective but stays surefooted. Its just a vibe.
>>573009432Me too...
>>573009310Kek Any other oldfags here
>>573009384>Shadow's devotion to keep Rouge out of the vault
>>573009019Rock on Amybro
>>573007243>shadougetardNot your bogeyman. Knuxouge has not been teased this year. If it had, you retards would be spamming it nonstop
>your shipcanon and in character>my shipretarded and completely inaccurate
>>573009478>>573009750
>>573009803ken pende. i mean scribbles....
Shadow
>>573007840Her voice actor gives me the spunky hope. Also I don't know how you can introduce Amy without a love interest role. It's never been done before.
>>573009750Sonic Channel teased it secondary.
>>573010125Prime
>>573010125Prime Amy.Let's fucking face it, the love interest in Prime was Shadow.
>>573010186>>573010198Flirts with him.
>>573010257Thorn Rose lowers her eyelids once, that isn't Amy flirting with him. Amy literally spends the entire series angry at him.
What were they hinting at here?
At this point the only way we are getting Amy to be made to be herself again is if we get people to admit to the fact there are nuAmy mandates. And even then we will get apologists trying to justify it.
Sonamyfans hate Sonic
>>573009019shadamybro...
There is no need for Shitamy or Shitally. Shadow already won. Sonic even calls him cute. They are erasing Amy and Maria so these two can kiss, and it's beautiful.
>>573011284Maria was erased by GUN.
>>573010657I don't think there are nuAmy mandates. I think the problem is that Sonic Team is approving of everything Ian and the lore team are doing with the English scripts, including how they're neutering Amy
>>573008948Bro all those episodes are straight ass.
>>573009889>PendersSEE?
>>573010727we know. they want sissy shyboynic. a lot of sonamyfags like nicky from the manga
>>573010425The novelty of the radical highwaying in Shadow Gens was kinda lost on me after the first time honestly. Like maybe intertwine Black Comet/Final Haunt or something since Shadow's DNA is relevant to the narrative and the Black Moon is kinda like a cocoon
>>573011732rouge would never touch shadow's tiny dick
Your ship can't be THAT bad dude
Oh fuck fuck oh fuck yes Shadow cum inside yes fuck yesss
>>573011284Sonic and Shadow will never be marketed as faggots to little boys.
>>573011265The retard devs gave her dress and boots but not her gloves or hairband. There's also a three-prong hair spike that looks like hers even if it's comically oversized, but it doesn't come in pink for some reason.
>>573012006I live in fear of people who like my ship they are subhuman
>>573012437Scribbles........
>>573011663That's not true
only my ship is based
>>573012437scratch x topaz anon...
Scribbles do you have a social media or discord i want to harass you about the wind
>>573011474There are definitely nuAmy mandates starting with LostWorld. Pontac wrote Amy like herself in Generations but wrote her like Frontiers in Lost World.There was an event where they talked about it.
>>573010657This is only a west problem. Yes, the brand dominates here than in Japan. But long as JP Amy is consistent, I'll never panic when she exists elsewhere and her home IP.
>>573012797Lost World i the only Pontaff game that was written in English first.
I said long ago that nuamy came from sega and not flynn and no one believed me as amyfags continued to sperg about flynn 24/7/365 most of these threads for the past 2 years are amyfag sperg, shadougefag sperg and krack/anti-krack sperg. with decent sonic discussions sometimes but those are rare
>>573013243Ian still fucking contributes nothing except wanting Sonic to be like Archie.
>>573012797In the English version of Frontiers, Amy's love is removed but in the English version of Sonic x Shadow Generations, she mentions something to Sonic about marriage. This is why I believe the problem is that Sonic Team isn't bothering to tell Ian to write her as in love with Sonic and that Sonic Team is just approving of almost anything he writes without caring>>573012926All games from Sonic Colors-Frontiers were written in English first.
>>573012849JP Amy is beholden to EN Amy because thr story cutscenes and animations are based on the english script since Colors
>>573013641>All games from Sonic Colors-Frontiers were written in English first.Completely false. Only Lost World and Frontiers were English first. Colors, Generations, and Forces were Japanese first. Pontac and Graff weren't even involved with Colors until very late in development. Pontac and Graff have said Lost World was the first time they were given more freedom, so it's not Generations either. And with Forces Sonic Team was constantly talking about how happy they were to be more involved with the story, with Nakamura confirming multiple times that it was Japanese first
Yeah, throw your temper tantrum, woke white woman
Flynnfags keep religiously using the Lost World excuse but I've never seen what they're taking about. Didn't Amy only appear like two or three times in that game?
Can't they just make a new female character who's tough instead of butchering Amy?
>>573013767Sure, games but long as their is evidence bios like that children's book still reference Adventure Amy then she's not fully gone.
>>573014031They tried that with Blaze but she's Sol cucked.
I'm tired of this shitdow spam
I'm not.
thank god someone is posting Shadow
>>573013828It was Sonic Team who came up with the stories for the games but the scripts were written in English first. The problem is that Sonic Team told Pontac and Graff to write the characters in a silly and wacky manner that was out of manner in the English script but the Japanese script wasn't the same and that's sleazy double standard.Sonic x Shadow Generations was also written in English first but it had an accurate translation from English to Japanese but Frontiers didn't and I'm really unhappy at this
>>573013770Yes. She had very little screen time
>>573013767Unfortunately true.
>>573015251why does this look like ai
MODS!
>>573015340The facial expressions look de contextualized somehow
>>573015340Because it is.
>>573014889>but the scripts were written in English firstFalse. The scripts were written in English first only for Lost World and Frontiers. The scripts are still different regardless of which one was written firstPontaff interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xthq8oKN2ecThey explain they joined Colors very late in development when the script was already fully written, they were hired to make changes for the English version. They then explain that with Lost World they were involved from the beginning so they wrote it in English firstFor Forces, we have entire leaked prototype versions of the script with several changes made by different people at both SoA and SoJ. The game's credits are well detailed as to who did the majority of the work in what part for the base game:>Writers, Story and Script: Makoto Goya>Writers, Japanese Story and Script: Eitaro Toyoda>Writers, English Story and Script: Ken Pontac, Warren GraffGoya wrote the script, Pontaff made changes to it for the English version, Toyoda made changes to it for the Japanese version. We know there was some back and forth between the two thanks to the leaks.Shun Nakamura also said everything I just said about Forces:https://nitter.poast.org/Nakamura_ShunR/status/895776350362976256https://nitter.poast.org/Nakamura_ShunR/status/867315895982370817>Sonic x Shadow Generations was also written in English firstThere is nothing to substantiate this claim as far as I know>it had an accurate translation from English to Japanese but Frontiers didn't and I'm really unhappy at thisJapanese Frontiers respects who the characters are, it's an improvement. Which makes me skeptical of Shadow Generations prioritizing Ian. The original Sonic Generations also hid the real story writing credits in the same way for whatever reason
You just know that he did some nasty shit at those Diddy parties
For those who didn't know: You can use this link to tell Sega of Japan you're unhappy with the script differences and how what they do to the charactershttps://faq.sega.jp/hc/ja/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000782393
>>573015781>There is nothing to substantiate this claim as far as I knowNot the anon you're talking to, but Ian's credited with all writing credits: Writer, story, and script.
>>573016052I have already mentioned this in my post. It's obviously not accurate. The original Generations credited everything to Pontaff in the same way, even though we know that is not the case. Pontaff themselves have also said that it isn't, since Lost World was the first time they were that involved, and even then it was Sonic Team who came up with the actual story. Iirc the Shadow Generations credits being inaccurate also caused some drama on Twitter a while back and someone who works on the series (Katie?) had to clarify that Ian wasn't the sole writer, I don't have the link to that unfortunately.
Y'all seein' this?
>>573014832
Fagow literally ruined everything. He 100% should've stayed dead. Only larpers gaf about this deviantart OC.
>>573016009Bro they do not care
>>573021330I cared enough to tell them I hate soa.
>>573021330I already sent one. My conscience is clear.
>>573016009I just sent them lewd amy pics i hope they get the message
>>573007612I think I saw a video of this guy at a Sonic con years ago. I remember his name being pronounced "Eee-vo" (Fun fact: That's how Eggman's first name Ivo was supposed to be pronounced because it sounded like "evil", but the name has been pronounced the other way through all media).
Someone should post Bump porn to keep the thread alive. Not me tho haha.
>>573023969Fitting name for SOA’s vice president considered that it sounds like the word evil
>>573021330I sent one in May and included screenshots
Soniv and Amy will not kiss.
Why do you still care about this sinking ship of a franchise?
>>573024172What’s this clown going to do the franchise when he returns? He hates Sonic
>>573024525Who says I do
>>573024697You hate Sonic more than he does, I guarantee it
>>573024434>>573024868He would make fun of the franchise in the 2010s while he was working as the social media manager
>>573024980I make fun of the things I love all the time.
>Sonic is gonna become satire again
>>573024434Perhaps not but something big will happen between them soon
>>573025224A high five!
What does this franchise have besides fake aura?
>>573025081Making fun of Sonic in the 2010s only made things worse and people stopped taking Sonic seriously because of it
>>573025623People stopped taking Sonic seriously because the games were bad retard
>>573025342They’re going to share something more intimate and it’s going to last a whole year
>>573025754A special sibling like bond!
>>573025745The games were trash but the self-deprecation on the Sonic social media accounts further tarnished the franchise’s image
>>573025920Bad trolling. It’s going to be more than that
>>573026087Siblings can have hardcore raw sex Anon, it's 2026.
>>573025525The 2000s games had aura. The characters and mythology of the Sonic universe are appealing too
>>573026215Lol you only think that because you played those games when you were 10
>>573024525I’m waiting to see if Sonic Team made a game that makes up for all the shortcomings of Frontiers. Still waiting for news on the next mainline game
>>573026458There is no game.
>>573026427I never played those games and I wasn’t born in the 90s but I’ve watched gameplay of them and they’re factually cooler than anything Sonic game in the last 18 years
This franchise needs more fat asses
>>573026531Sonic Team is working on something. They’ve got to be
>Hello citizens of Mobius>My race, the blarg, have a small problem>Our planet has become so polluted, overpopulated and poisonous that we're no longer able to dwell here. But I, chairman Drek, have the solution!>We are constructing a brand new world using the best planetary components available.>But what does this mean for you, (You) might ask?>Using highly sophisticated technology (Which you couldn't possibly understand) we will be extracting a large portion of your planet and adding it to our world!>Unfortunately this change of mass will cause your planet to spin out of control, drifting to the sun where it will explode into a flaming ball of gas... BUT of course sacrifices must be made *chuckles*>Thank you for your cooperation!>AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU CAN TAKE YOUR WHINY GAY FURRY POPULATION, FORM A LINE BEHIND ME AND KISS MY A- *cuts*
>>573026989On the next crossover deal maybe
I wish i raped sonic's world like drek did in ratchet and clank.
Dead general.
>Everyone calling Knuckles a jobber>Doesn't notice the first second of the Metal Sonic animation has Sonic on his knees in pain.Kneelnic.
>>573029220Yeah Ian wrote this
If it isn't the 4th wheel
Apologize.
>>573014178and they care more about her potentailly sucking sonic's dick than anything else about her. same is happening to surge now. part of why they don't is that no one takes tough female chars seriously in this franchise.
>>573029846Women aren't tough. They never have been and never will be.
>>573002031even if we assume ian's words hold merit, he did say ''i don't know if that's still on table'' and regretted what he said, for what we know before we see said ''internal document'' it might be scrapped, a joke note, translated wrong, etc. for now none of the direct statements from sonic team we have support the idea that she has a crush on anyone.>>573002814''he never ran away'' is a shit excuuse because she doesn't really flirt lol. she also wears a takararzuka outfit thus is described as ''not feminine'' sonic just sees her as a pal like he sees his male buddies
>>573006738shadria exists and people call it sibling. sontails is just uncomfortable even if tails was a girl to general audience.
>>573029992i think it could work but only if they don't make their main relationship sonic.
>Classickino vs Modernshit (Racing edition)
i don't think blaze has a crush and sonic definitely doesn't have it lol but even outside that my problem with sonaze is that, if it happened what does sonic gain out of this? yes sonic teaches her about power of friendship and occasionally wrangles her but what does blaze add to sonic? at least with amy she adds some comedic gags + they can also twist n these comedic gags like in unleashed to expose rare moments of sonic's vulnerabilities, since amy is the heart character and sonic is rather aloof. blaze can't even really do that.
>>573030638Classic for hugsModern for fucks
>>572997774>>572998182Is the Eggman Nega in Rush the same Eggman Nega in Rivals? This is a valid question. We have two Silvers running around post-Generations.
>>573030965eggman nega retcon is kept so it's the same one. i don't think two silvers is true either desu unless you count bad timeline versions of every character pre solaris wipe.i think it's the same eggman but SOL cast is broadly categorized in the category of 06 ones hence why the sol naming in 06 and why silvaze duo isn't being dropped. 06 lore has esoteric stuff we don't know about.
>>573031709>i don't think two silvers is trueSonic Team approve it (cause they don't want to wipe out the 06 timeline for whatever reason) ergo it is a thing. Nega is more of a problem cause his appearance and name are tied to Rush/the Sol Dimension.Why would an Eggman from the Future call himself "Eggman Nega"? The future isn't Negative of the past. Also, if Nega hates the current Eggman (as was stated in Rivals), why would he ever work with him?
So Silver created the IDW troon timeline where he's a gay little bitch who wants to join a woman club and can't handle a single guy with a fucking knife
>>573029220Ian...
>>573031848but why would there not be two versions of every 06 character then? i think runners is probably flavor text.blaze isn't ''sonic nega'' either. i think they just thought his design fit better as future eggmanso they made him silver's future villain to share with blaze. they probably intended silver and blaze lore to be connected of a bigge mthos surounding time and space fuckery but couldn't tell it due to them as characters having to be dropped with stupid friends purge. for all intents and purposes silver's 06 setting of soleanna is grouped rogether with blaze's sol stuff but we don't know why that is.
>>573032206ST doesn't really wite post 06 silver as being like that either. idw just doesnt have enough mandates.
>>573032235>but why would there not be two versions of every 06 character then?Because the only surviving timeline was the 06 Silver one. Solaris consumed all the other ones before Sonic, Shadow, and Good Future Silver stopped it. Simplest explanation I got.>they probably intended silver and blaze lore to be connected of a bigge mthos surounding time and space fuckeryYes, that's why Blaze was sealed in another dimension in 06 and why she knows Crisis City in Generations. Dropped plot points, that is all.
>>573031848>his appearance and name are tied to Rush/the Sol Dimension.Not really? He doesn't particularly fit yhe setting and his name scheme isn't really relevant to Blaze's Dimension.
>>573024172Between this and Sega being convinced not to fire Roger Craig Smith as Sonic's VA, I don't think firing EvanIan or any of the other malcontent would even be permanent anymore.
>>573021802>>573021943>>573024408I don't think anon meant that to mean "you won't do anything". He was stressing that Sega is apathetic to gaijin opinions (unless you're a game journo or e-celeb humiliating them publically, like Arin Hansen)
>>573024172I remember all the cryptic posting he did on the socials often which had people speculating and getting their hopes upwhat a piece of shit
>>573024172Bubsy colab when?
>>573032513i wonder what was the japanese dialogue like in gens
>>573030815Not that I don’t agree about the Blaze part but>at least with amy she adds some comedic gags + they can also twist n these comedic gags like in unleashed to expose rare moments of sonic's vulnerabilities, since amy is the heart character and sonic is rather aloofThey’re erasing this and making her into a lame girl character now. It’s been this way for a while desu.
>>573034123Ha ha! How wacky, in a chungus UH OH (cartoon sound effects) kind of way.
>>573034123Anons keep saying Aaron saved Sonic but I don't see where
>>573035470???
This general is more schizo than /xivg/
>>573029371I swear, if Ian purposefully ruins Amy’s character in this series…I’m already bracing for it
>>573034581but it can be restored, with blaze you're better off either trying to develop silvaze due to popularity and logistic optics or just making her shipless as a lead in her own setting imo. if she has or had a crush on sonic then it could also be a story about moving on but you know sonic team wouldn't invest in that.
So what games do you guys play? You... play the games right? You're not a larper/comicsfag/DiCfag, right? Surely not...
>>573036816I thought we were all climbing to emerald rank in Crossworlds
>>573029220Sonic is so weak...
>>573037271He needs the help of his nakamas to become the next pirate king
>>573036816I played Sonic Generations a few weeks ago
>>573036816i suck at it but i emulated advance
>>573026458Same
>>573039025>he is the blue blur
>>573039025Go back to xitter
sonic is the ejaculation
>>573039449rapemeat
>>573039258yeah straight into my pussy
>>573028012this is crazy timing since i'm currently going through my ratched & clank playthrough
We should kiss
>>573039553
How do you feel about Blue eyed Shadow coming back?
>>573039848Play Shadow the Hedgehog mf
>>573039025We're killing KAD for this.
>Blaze and SilverWho?
>>573002814>>573003028>>573003724i am invested in either IDW or silvaze but sonazefags are so pathetic that i hope the next silver blaze issues and whatever next game featuring silver shipbaits it hard.
>>573040847The hero of time
>>573040934* not invested
>>573040814already did
>>573029220Tails looking concerned meanwhile Amy locking in with the rest.
>>573029220Sonic will always struggle to generate some tension.While Knuckles is becoming the designated jobber. Or tank
>>573041667amy's butt is what keeps me going...
>>573041667tail too small
>>573039025>making up things to argue against to feel smart.
>>573041796for me it's cream
>>573042037for me is almost every sonic girl honestly, especially if they have a cute butt or boobs
>>573029220shitnicjobnic
>>573042210cute!
>>573042343sonic girls are very cute, you are right
>>573042037Those are some lucky Chao
>>573042210what about boys?
I just bought this. I even looked the cashier girl right in the eyes as she ringed me up.
>>573042573personally for me? is just a few boys that i find cute and is ever rarer when people post them with a cute butt, i only seen it once
>>573042573Sure, if you're a femanon or a fag.
>>573042607That's fine but I don't know why you had to make it weird, what was your plan
ain't got no cakei still got her phoneshe takin too long
>>573042501very!
>>573043942I am glad we agree
hello guys! decided to improve this scene. I think lightning effect shows his strength quite good + eggman is connected to electronics and electronics are electricity
im going to leave until this retarded forced twitter debate is over
>>573044124not sure if this is a shitpost or not but i kinda agree? not to this extend obviously since it looks silly but if we are giving anything electricity related to someone, i would give it to eggman, especially because what you said but also the one scene from unleashed where he managed to zap sonic out of his super form
>>573044193which one? the wind and lightning thing? I mean people recycle the same type of discussions over and over here after a while. So if twitter picks it up randomly one day then is just news to me. I am glad there was some pushback with the amy bio aparently there
>>573041657why are ignoring the fact that knuckles dribbled metal like a speed bag
>>573044708because it did nothingactions must have consequences to be cool
Amy will never have this.
>>573042907I was asserting dominance.
>>573045306isnt this an australian old sega place? shipfag discourse aside, since i don't give a shit, this just has a lot of soul
Nobody cared about that Chaotix podcast aside from dykeslop and Infinite the Weak one second cameo
Cream's new playmate!
>>573045757I mean yeah pretty much, even though the writting was endearing even outside of that. Makes me wonder if other group of characters could carry an entire side project like that one did, I wouldn't hate it if they did
Sonic but written like Chainsmoker Cat
>>573045757I will be honest, that podcast was so fucking mid I have no idea why people give it 10/10They had an opportunity to tell DETECTIVE story with DETECTIVE characters but decided to put fan service on the first place
>>573046330this is a franchise for children
https://www.yourworldoftext.com/SonicSTHGStoryContinue the stories!
>>573045306Didnt this end up half rekt on the side of the road still visible years later?
>>573044489There was?
>>573046701a story is only gay if you abandon it
Have a lovely morning.
>>573045765Bro's older than Tails
Hey /sthg/ I've had something on my mind for a bit.At what point do you think it's just pointless to complain? I've wanted Sonic to be more like 2000's version for what feels like eons and I've never got it, and with the side media like IDW and Movies they just end up influencing the games more and more, and it feels like the vast majority eats it up or loves everything, like Amy's character got completely retconned and outside of here it seems like everyone is for it.The whole thematics of Sonic and wind is seemingly thrown away and people love it too.At what point do you just throw your hands up and just admit that it isn't for you anyore and you should move on completely.It sucks because sonic felt very unique and everything I liked gets more and more stripped away over time.Have I just fallen completely out of love for sonic? Am I being over dramatic?At least I still have all my old Sonic media, but I'm honestly really sad right now, not helped that most of the other franchise I engage with have also nosedived in quality for me, like Monster Hunter Wilds, yet it feels like everyone defends wilds, and I assume it will be the default moving forward, position and movement will be removed more and more until it's a hack n slash, I love hack n slash but I didn't get Monhun for a hack n slash or DMC.
>>573030815> How I see it Sonic is a character that is emotionally distant, aloof, guarded and he is extremely protective of his autonomy, but his exterior is outgoing, sociable and warm, remember How Blaze is continuously described? Icy, cold, guarded exterior but deeply affectionate and warm interior? Sonic IS the opposite.Blaze protects her vulnerable side with a wall, Sonic protects his with distance, he never lets anyone get too close, his relationships have not a lot of depth, he never stays too long or let's anyone affect him deeply.When he sees Blaze, He wanted to intervene because he saw her simply as a "freedom problem" so he chased after her and became close, boom, there goes Sonic's protective mechanism, he got close enough to melt her icy exterior walls, but also close enough to have his inner unshakeable autonomy affected by her warmth, why?> because he made himself emotionally vulnerable when he closed the gap to help her, when she didn't want anyone close at first.
>>573047961>At what point do you think it's just pointless to complain?when the authors double down on the thing you're complaing about
> Wants to ruin Amy and her love for Sonic> Named "Ivo"Really makes you think
>>573048673>she won't love that hedgehog. she will love s____me
This fan edit does a good job at actually making the idea of covering her up look good,
>>573048313i mean i don't really see it that way, to me the scene was sonic giving out life advices and mentoring as usual like how 00s used sonic as this fairy figure. in the end, he dips out like he always does. amy is better imo because she actually forces out reactions from him besides tardwrangling whether it is comedy gags that make sonic look pathetic or like in unleashed, some rare moments of vulnerability or trust. if it had to be romantic, i think the best way to handle sonaze is that blaze gets some kind of childish hero crush due to not being used to someone like that before then when she realizes he's not the right guy she moves on. i don't think she necessarily has a crush but if sonaze had to be adressed at all this is how id handle it.
>>573049226She'd honestly look better with a redesign, give her more poofy dress and bloomers, she should look more soft, keep the iconic colors.
>>573047961When more people happily swallow the shit you’re complaining about than agree with your complaints.Of course that’s assuming you’re complaining to be heard and not just to vent.
>>573047961I've made peace with the fact that Sonic is no longer allowed to be Sonic and that fan fiction writers have hustled their way into the core to drop their slop all over it to try and make Sonic what they want it to be.It was inevitable really, considering the fan base.
>>573049330Its the difference between “I want to cover her up but preserve the feel of her design” vs “I want to cover her up because I don’t like that you can see her panties even though her butt just looks like an egg.”
>>573049407fan fiction writers would be an improvement because "fan" implies you respect the characeters to some degreeThese writers don't even respect the OC characters that they themselves create
>>573049226the amyfags we got here are just kuta but amy. they are rallying4amy because sega got other plans and they have a pantyshot fetish
Gay dog gay niggers
>>573049728If Amy's shorts were the only issue you may have a pointThe bigger problem you're trying to trivialize here is them neutering Amy's character entirely
Void > spats > panties, it's that simple.The void is erotic by default; it leaves more to the imagination and implies she's going commando. She's ready for the Sonic dicking at any moment.Spats suggest athleticism and sweat. We love sweaty women.Panties are basic. Generic. Boring, even.
>>573039025The schizos did NOT like this one
>>573039025Why not both?
>>573050004Thia guy gets it
this is a stupid thing to ask but why do people consider rumble more legitimate than speed sim or forces battle? i rmemeber the energy vs waterfagging only slowed down when rumble revealed marine rather than the other gacha slops.
>>573039025This feels very false and for the sole purpose to push an agenda, I never seen any treat sonic like he's an air bender. Sonic's wind is just him moving fast, like the blue tornado, 06 Opening, insta shield is him moving so fast he makes a little air barrier.
>>573050412Because it's stupid to think Marine is ever going to show up or fight in actual canon.
>play sa1>sonic randomly has light powers nowFuck Ian Flynn, fuck the movies. Sonic has always been about the wind and not this retarded pew pew laser beam fantasy shonenslop bullshit. Sonic is fast, he uses the wind, that's it. Stop making the games your fanfic.
>>573050412Rumble is co-developed by Sonic Team
>>573050606Light powers?
>>573050683The retarded fucking lightspeed dash. He could just use speed for that instead of this mystical elemental garbage.
>>573050004Spats look like shit when she has tubes for legs. They only look good when there’s some actual shape to it. And since the point is to not show her ass we won’t be getting a Marine situation.
>>573050791That's not a light-based powerIt's light-SPEEDHe can't blind you
>The amybot's fangirl program proved to be useless at luring that hedgehog. let's disable the fangirl program and go full muscle
>>573049589I at least understand why Ian has basically given up.He's been working on Sonic comics for 20 years now, having to fix Penders' bullshit and go through 3 different reboots. All of his other projects have flopped and he's only just started getting game writing credits for which he's been, generally, decried for because it's simply too late. He's long past his prime, which is why he relies on cheap out-of-context references for easy Twitter pops and forced melodrama in the hope of being taken "seriously", to no success.
Tails is cute <3
>>573049348A little of column A and B. Mostly want to be understood, but it turns into venting as no one really cares.Feels hopeless sometimes.
=)
>>573050879Don't forget every decision he's made is torn apart by an ungrateful fandom. And before anyone starts schizoing out at me, I'm not defending Ian, I'm criticizing the fandom. These people cannot constructively critique anybody and Ian discourse often times boils down to "he ruined the franchise and needs to be fired." Why would anyone try to put passion into the series after all of that?
I' depressed /sthg/ give me something to fill the void.
>>573051264>Why would anyone try to put passion into the series after all of that?I mean it's his job. Fans will always complain. You gotta either deal with the hate or curate your online space. Or just not engage with fans at all, though it seems Flynn is short on money so he needs the donations
This game actually kicks ass idk why I waited 4 years to play it
>>573051523Have you tried Jim Beam?
>>573051523
>>573051523i like watching awful cartoons to get angry at
>>573051568This game actually is ass*Ftfy.
>>573051716Do the critters originate from Northstar Islands? It's the place with the highest critter biodiversity
>>573051568What the fuck is that? Are you playing a modded version of this game?!?1?!
>>573051923ofc not. Also should I go with the standard ending or the alternate?
Since Sony, Microsoft, and Nitendo are shooting themselves in the face. When the dust has settled and consoles are dead... Where will you be when Sega Finally make the Sega Iris and restore the console isdustry! And Nintendo will be forced as the 3rd party, and we'll get SONIC & Mario at the olympic games where Sega complain about Mario being in the lead and he needs to be removed for Wario behind Sonic and Mario just gets a cameo on the back of the box.Everything will bright, new, amazing, Mario games will struggle and die and they'll be forced to make Wario World 2 at long last the world will be ready for Wario World 2!!!
>>573047563Ages aren't a thing anymore.
Kit may act sour but he's sweetish when you fuck his ass.
I think the lighting looks cool in Frontiers
>>573052321This.Cream is fair game now.
>>573051921According to the prequel manga, the bigger versions of the critters seem unique only to Northstar, but idk about the regular small animal buddies.
>>573052209>Sega is more likely to make a new console than a new Sonic gameGrim times
>>573049235Part 2 is that, Blaze is not simply a cute Starbucks barista across the street that Sonic can flirt with, or marry and start a family with, she is a mirage, she is a mirror, you can't marry the mirror, all she does is show Sonic how bound he also is.Blaze is the first external perspective Sonic has of someone who mirrors his own lifestyle and choices of complete ultimate autonomy, he sees someone who is similar to him, and he doesn't likes where it goes.He sees Blaze as a bird in a cage when he is far from her at first, when he closes the distance he sees what she really is, a mirror, she is not a bird in the cage, HE is the fucking bird in the fucking cage.> Oh they could go to romantic dates and flirt, and do the will they won't they sticht I mean, yeah they could, but I think it misses the nuance of the whole thing.
>>573052209Just buy a steam machine bro. or even better, build your own PC
>>573052395Sonamy has done horrible damage to Amy's character, she lost her pure heart and spunky personality. All for the sake of making Sonamy canon.Shadamy though? Amy gets to be Amy! She gets pure joy and happiness and showers shadow in it, Shadamy allows her to be her true self!
>>573052675>build your own PCYou haven't looked at component prices in a while huh?
>>573052412Starline...
>>573052759what makes you think a sega console would be financially feasible then? even the new steam machine is like $1K and it's components are $600 or whatever
>>573052793I heard starline made it so Kit has an extra sensitive prostate so stimulation in that area makes him violently cum. Why did he do it?
>>573052570Cream is the only character whose given age canonically matched her agein human years.
>>573052896For science
>>573051721damn terifag, you really are one of us
>>573052896Eggman mind broke Starline when he fired him during the Metal Virus. Starline felt needed relief.The effects on Kit are palpable to say the least.
>>573050004I'd be more okay with that the spats if they were a different color than black, it clashes with her color scheme to much
>>573052395Man I really want a Sanei Amy plush. You can find the Mario ones at fucking CVS and Walgreens but the Sonic ones are exclusive to Japan or California
>>573053261Crossworlds and Rumble already do this. She has the shorts but it's red and only goes to her upper thighs. The long black ones that peek through even when she's standing still are legitimately ugly on her
The real reason IDW doesn't have humans is because after his messy break up with Eggman Ian said >If we had other humans we'd be forced to a bunch of scenes of starline drowning sorrows in human cock and it would really drag on and on, and not having starline fall in love with one of the human men fucking him would just be very out of character since he's canonically obessed with ridinghuman dick, so much so we'd need 28 issues of just starline having gay sex. But my favorite line for what one scene would look like was starline saying "I can't hold on much longer!" As he's ready bust but his human bf says "But I'll never let go!" Iizuka actually heard this and ejaculated on the spot.
>>573053557KEK
>>573053524yeah this does look better.
Bless you Dream Team for giving me uncensored Amy and Cream pantsu
Why'd they even emphasize Amy's panties when they redesigned her for Modern? Like panties weren't even a consideration for Classic Amy, it was just a void then, so why did they invent this detail for Modern Amy?
>>573053946They really wanted to do this
>>573053946Because Sonic Team knew the player base were perverts.
I hate these puritan zoomersI really doThey want the edge but only safe edgeIt's really what Sega said, "edgy but safe"
wat did she dodid she destroy that building
>>573054003What is "edge" though?We can't really give Shadow guns again.
>>573053946They wanted us to ogle at Amy.For us to give into our primal desires to further separate us from Sonic, so that his windisms could bring us back to the light.
>>573053946I don’t think people gave much thought to her underwear back in the day.
No wonder they gave her spats
>>573054009>Fiona conspiring with Mavericks
>>573054000
>>573054281>Amy gets on top of you and peels your pants off>As you ready for Amy to ride you feel a massive THUD as her dick slaps on top of yours>Mines so big~ and yours is so cute!>Amy rubs her cock onto yours her big shaft and heavy balls completely burry penis>Amy keeps rubbing them making the tips kiss as she pulsates sending shivers down your spine as she and (you) cum together
>>573054281Amy's cock!
>>573054118>They wanted us to ogle at Amy.This.The leaked autodemo of Sonic Adventure actually had the pantyshots way more obvious, but the leak happened in the thick of metoo I think so SNN wiki admins were in damage-control mode and reverting edits that pointed this out, rationalizing it as "oh no it's just unfinished physics, stop being a creep the devs aren't creeps for doing this you're the creep for pointing this out.
>>573052647i am not sure if that is what's intended angle there myself. i saw it more like that, sonic, especially super sonic is a manifestation of everyone's feelings and dreams towards sonic x sonic's feelings towards everyone (nishiyama also wrote sa1 which sonic goes super in a similar way) people interpret the message in a busy business woman way where she needs to be less ''dutybound'' but i interpreted the message moreso in that she needs to open her heart and listen to others to fulfill that duty better, that is why she becomes ''firepilled'' instead of ''windpilled'' and becomes burning blaze. super sonic transferred something to her there. we could say that maybe sonic saw how ''he used to be'' in blaze but i feel that's too headcanony. i think rather than ultimate autonomy, sonic's aloofness comes from being some magical being of hope, like ''he hates tears'' so he has to be pretend to be happy or only show minimal signs of grief until the situation is extremely desperate. perhaps you could say this is similar to blaze hiding her feelings or vulnerabilities but idk.what are your interpretations on the silver/blaze pair btw? i speculated on it and understand most of it now i think. but i found yor interpretation of sonic/blaze interesting than the usual interpretations so i want to see how you'd interpret this one. i don't care to discuss if it is platonic or romantic, but pairing her with another hedgehog just one year later is mysterious in a sense.
>>573054271ST sure put a lot of thought to these panties, lol. Like they even put it in the GBA sprites and this is detail that, again, didn't even originally exist for Amy.Classic Amy wasn't defined by her panties like Modern Amy apparently is.
>>573054592Now that's something I wanna see
>>573054680They even give her a butt cheeks in Advanced.Very weird and it's spawned weird Amy fans.Her ass is a fucking orb it isn't sexy at all.
>>573054351>People who want Sonic Porn are NOT sonic fans.
>>573054531I would prefer a blowjob alreadyFrotting isnt that good
>>573054761Dimps were horny
>Amy will never frott you
>>573054531>>573054531This is hot but I wear a chastity cage so I can't self-insert.
>>573055428>CagedWhy would you seal a pretty penis? It should be free and flopping happily while you get fucked...
>>573055140>Frotting isnt that goodfag
Tails!